* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] OKAY. [Parks and Recreation Board Meeting] IT IS SEVEN, SIX OH THREE, AND I CALL THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE GARLAND, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TWO QUARTER. UM, FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. EVERYBODY READ THEM THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. MOTION BY MARGARET. SECOND SECOND BY JONATHAN FERGUSON. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS A GARLAND TO GOLD SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION. TO TURN IT OVER TO ARNIE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND, AND GOOD TO SEE, UH, SEE A LOT OF PLACES. I KNOW A LOT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, UH, I KNEW JERRY CARTER WHEN HE ACTUALLY USED TO PLAY SOFTBALL A LONG TIME AGO, BUT W PHIL APPETITE ANYWAY, JUST WANT TO TELL ALL YOU GUYS, WE APPRECIATE THE CITY AND THE PORT BOARD AND EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO FOR US OUT THERE AT, UH, CARTER COMPLEX. UH, THIS YEAR WAS A DIFFICULT YEAR, STRANGE YEAR WITH, WITH COVID COMING IN, BUT, UH, WE STARTED IN THE FEBRUARY. WE'VE QUIT ABOUT THE END OF MARCH. AND THEN WE STARTED UP AGAIN ABOUT THE END OF JUNE AND WE COMPLETED OUR SEASON. UH, OUR NUMBERS WERE DOWN OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT WITH COVID. WE, UH, WE USUALLY AVERAGE, UH, GOSH, 80 TO A HUNDRED TEAMS. WE PLAYED THREE SESSIONS A YEAR, SPRING, SUMMER AND FALL. WE AVERAGED ABOUT 65 TO 75 THEMES. UH, AND THE SPRING AND THE FALL, OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T PLAN A SUMMER LEAGUE. AND, UM, IN THE FALL WE DID THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. WE USUALLY PLAYED AN EIGHT GAME SCHEDULE BASED OVER ABOUT 10 TO 12 WEEKS, ALLOWING THE WEATHER, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF A LOT OF OUR PLAYERS AND TEAMS. WE WENT TO BASICALLY A DOUBLE HEADER SCHEDULE. IN OTHER WORDS, EACH TEAM PLAYED TWO GAMES EVERY NIGHT. THEY WERE OUT THERE PLAYING ONE NIGHT A WEEK. SO THIS HELPED THEM OUT WITH TEAMS, ESPECIALLY ED PLAYERS COMING IN FROM OTHER CITIES, UH, TO PLAY IN OUR COMPLEX. AND THEY GOT TO PLAY TWO GAMES A NIGHT INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONE GAME AT NIGHT. SO, UH, THERE WAS SO MUCH POSITIVE REACTION TO THAT. WE WERE PROBABLY GONNA DO THAT AGAIN FOR ALL OUR SEASONS NEXT FOR OUR BEGINNING IN 2021. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GO TO, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE SHORT TIME SPAN. USUALLY WE PLAY AN EIGHT WEEK, SCHEDULE IT ABOUT FIVE OR SIX WEEKS. SO WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE A SEASON EVERY EIGHT WEEKS. WE'RE GOING TO START MARCH PERS. AND AGAIN, THESE DATES ARE GIVE OR TAKE, UH, MY FIRST JULY 1ST AND SEPTEMBER 1ST. AND WE'LL STILL BE THROUGH MIDDLE OF OCTOBER, LIKE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO BE THROUGH BY NOVEMBER 1ST. SO THE CITY CAN HAVE ACTUALLY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY TO DO WHATEVER TYPE OF, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT, UH, IS NEEDED TO BE DONE. UH, THIS PAST YEAR, THE, THE YOU, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND A NEW MACHINE WAS PURCHASED THAT, UH, BASICALLY LEVELS OUT THE, UH, THE ARCS ON THE INFIELD. AND, UH, THAT USED TO BE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR TWO REASONS. IF YOU WERE AN INFIELDER AND YOU PLAYED ON THE INFIELD AND THE BALL WAS HIT OVER YOUR HEAD, UH, YOU STOOD A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING TRIPPED UP BY THE GRASS AS YOU WENT FROM THE DIRT TO THE GRASS, BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED SO HIGH THIS YEAR. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST COMPLIMENT. WE HEARD THAT THE FIELDS LOOKED IN GREAT SHAPE, THE INFIELDS WERE IN GREAT SHAPE. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT AND TAKING CARE OF THE FIELDS. UH, DIDN'T HEAR REALLY COMPLAINT FROM, UH, ANY OF THE TEAMS ON, ON THE, THE, THE NEW FIELD SET UP. SO AGAIN, WE ARE JUST IN A GREAT DEBT TO YOU GUYS FOR, FOR ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO, UH, UH, PLAY AT THE COMPLEX AND, UH, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN ALL OVER. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH GASA SINCE EARLY EIGHTIES, WE USED TO HAVE FOUR COMPLEXES IN THE AREA AND THE METROPLEX THAT PLAYED SOFTBALL. I THINK WE NOW HAVE ABOUT 24. SO NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE DOWN BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING AND, UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING OUR AVERAGE ABOUT THE SAME, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT COVID THIS YEAR, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING OH, 80, 80 TO 90 TEAMS, A SEASON, SO CLOSE TO 300 TEAMS FOR THE YEAR. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WITH, IF COVID GETS TAKEN CARE OF WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT NUMBER. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR RIGHT. YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS DELETED. YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? NO, SORRY. THIS IS JUST REQUEST OF THE BOARD. SO WE JUST WANT TO DO START OFF WITH ARMIE. CAUSE WE KNOW HE DOES A GREAT JOB OUT THERE AND HE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FIRST. I MEAN, WORKING WITH US FOR SO MANY YEARS. SO HE'S GOT A GREAT ORGANIZATION. PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR US TO START THE LADY DON'T LET SAM ON IT. SHE MAY, SHE MAY DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THE PEOPLE, UH, SAM DILLY, UH, DOUG AND HIS STAFF [00:05:01] OUT THERE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. ANYTIME I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, I KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO GET, UH, NOT GO THROUGH SAM, BUT I DO. I'M SORRY. THAT'S JUST OLD HABITS AND I'M AN OLD, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, ANYTIME I CALLED DOUG, THOSE GUYS TAKE CARE OF US, YOU KNOW, AS BEST THEY CAN. AND, AND WITH, WITH ANDY BEING AROUND, HE HELPS OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, HE HE'S, UH, HE'S UH, AN ATHLETICS GUY. SO AGAIN, WE JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING FOR US. AND, UH, AGAIN, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE YOU, ARNIE JERRY CARTER A COUPLE OF YEARS. YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU USER? I'M GREAT. I REMEMBER US WHEN WE WERE BOTH MUCH YOUNGER. YES, SIR. YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ACTUALLY WE WERE BOTH 19. YEAH, WE WERE AT ONE TIME. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. UH, THIS, THIS GENERAL CONDITION GENERAL THINGS FIRST OFF, WHEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WHEN THE COMPLEX WAS FIRST BUILT, IT WAS, IT WAS, STATE-OF-THE-ART ONE OF THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE STATE, TEXAS. AND WE, UH, WE HAD STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL TOURNAMENTS THERE. UH, FIRST QUESTION IS HOW IS THE, HOW IS THE COMPLEX HOLDING UP, UH, RELATIVE TO THE NEW COMPLEXES THAT ARE COMING ON? ARE WE STILL, ARE WE STILL ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THEM? WE ARE STILL COMPETITIVE. UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THE NEWER ONES ARE COMING ON, ARE COMING ON WITH TURF FIELDS. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST FACTOR THERE, WHICH, UH, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE I, I, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, WITH PARKS REC FOR A LONG TIME, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND WHAT YOU DON'T DO. AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK DONE OUT THERE THIS YEAR. UH, IT, IT, THE, THE PARK DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S 40 YEARS OLD. IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. I STILL THINK OF COURSE I'M PREJUDICE. I THINK WE'VE GOT PROBABLY THE BEST INFIELDS AND OUTFIELDS, ANY AREA OUTSIDE OF THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE TURF FIELDS. BUT, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE TOURNAMENTS HAVE BEEN SET UP IN A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE. AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING IT IN A LOT MORE PARKS, SO OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN, BUT I, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT COME OUT OR ARE PLEASED TO PLAY, A LOT OF THEM WILL COME OUT AND THEY'LL SET UP OUTSIDE IN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, UNDER TENTS OR IN, UH, CAMPING CHAIRS AND JUST KINDA MAKE A DAY OUT OF IT. HOPEFULLY THEY, THEIR TEAM PLAYS WELL ENOUGH TO STAY LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE A DAY OUT OF IT. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT IS ONE OF THE GOALS IN IT. THE SECOND, THE SECOND QUESTION YOU BROUGHT THIS UP AND A GRANDSON PLAYING IN THE NEW FIELDS, YOU KNOW, AND A SELECT BASEBALL, YOU KNOW, TEENAGER DURING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLAYING IN ALL THE NEW PLACES AND MOST EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE THAT HAVE THE TURF FIELDS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE TOURNAMENTS OR THE BIG TOURNAMENTS AND HAVE SOME SECURITY THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THE TOURNAMENT OR TWO PEOPLE TRAVELING A LONG WAY, THAT THAT BECOMES A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT, UH, OF THE, OF THE, UH, COMPLEX. IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT ACCURATE? IS IT NOT ACCURATE, JERRY RIGHT NOW IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA? UH, THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO MAIN PARKS THAT HAVE ALTAR FIELDS. ONE OF THOSE IS THE BLD COMPLEX AND MANSFIELD, AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE NEW PARK UP IN ALLEN THAT WAS JUST OPENED, I THINK, LAST FALL A YEAR AGO, THIS, THIS TIME, UH, I DO KNOW THAT SOFTBALL WORLD IS, IS WHICH, UH, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, SOFTBALL WE'RE OVER NEEDLESS AS IS GOING TO TURF FIELDS. UM, BUT FOR THE MOST OF THE REST OF US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH, UH, WITH THE DIRT AND THE GRASS. BUT, UH, GO AHEAD, SORRY, WHEN I'VE SEEN THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY PLAYED IN NATIONAL LEVEL TOURNAMENTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES. AND IF THEY HADN'T HAD THE TURF FIELDS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A COMPLETE WIPE OUT FOR THE TOURNAMENT. IT HAD, RYAN HAS STOPPED RUNNING AND THEY GO TO PLAY IN AND, AND RAIN TO STOP RAINING AND THEY GO TO PLAY HIM. AND, UH, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE TO ME THAT THAT'S A TREMENDOUS DISADVANTAGE IF WE WERE TRYING TO HAVE THE LARGER TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE TRAVELING SUCH A LONG DISTANCE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT AND THEN NOT GET TO FLIGHT YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IN FACT, THIS PAST WEEKEND WAS OUR LAST TOURNAMENT FOR THE 2020 SEASON. AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE RAIN WE GOT LAST WEEK, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO CANCEL. SO, BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE, WE, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN, UH, WITH, WITH DOUG AND, AND, AND, AND HIS STAFF'S HELP. AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF GUYS WHO GET OUT THERE AND, UH, HELP, UH, A LOT OF DRAG ON LINE AND DRAG A FIELD, AND THEN A DIAMOND DROWN, A FIELD. YOU KNOW, JERRY YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OUT THERE UP THINKING A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT, THAT A NATIONAL WORLD TERM IS OUT SLINGING DOWN AND DRIVE WITH THE REST OF US. BUT, UH, AGAIN, YES, OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD TURF FIELDS, WE WOULD PROBABLY PLAY EVERY CHANCE WE COULD, UNFORTUNATELY. SO DON'T TAKE ANY OF THOSE THINGS AS CRITICISMS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OPENING DAY. THERE IT'S BEEN AN AMAZING COMPLEX, BUT NOW JUST TRYING TO LOOK FOR THE FUTURE, MAYBE IN A FUTURE [00:10:01] BOND ELECTION OR SOMETHING, WE MIGHT BE CONSIDERING THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO, SO ARNIE, I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE, SO IF YOU NEED TO, UH, UH, EXCUSE YOURSELF, I WILL DO THAT AGAIN. I JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, TO IN FRONT OF EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS. AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN, WE CAN DO, OR WE CAN HELP, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PLEASE, UH, LET SAM KNOW, AND SHE DOESN'T HESITATE TO TEXT ME AND CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO DO. OKAY. WELL, I'D LOVE TO COME OUT AND SEE YOU GUYS SOMETIMES. SO, UH, WE WILL, I KNOW THE SCHEDULE, WE WILL START UP AGAIN AROUND THE 1ST OF MARCH. SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME OUT THERE, GIVE ME A CALL AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A TOUR WHO DOES ONE CONTACT IF THEY WANT TO PLAY? UM, THE EASIEST THING IS TO CONTACT ME, UH, AND, AND I CAN FLAT GIVE YOU MY CELL NUMBER, CAUSE EVERYBODY IN NORTH TEXAS KNOWS IT. SO IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S (972) 978-2290. AND I WILL SHARE HER, UH, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLAYING WOMEN'S OR CO-ED, I CAN SURE GIVE YOU TO EITHER THE WOMEN'S DIRECTOR OR THE CO-DIRECTOR, AND I CAN PROBABLY GET YOU HOOKED UP ON A TEAM, OR IF YOU WANT TO BRING A TEAM, WE CAN DO THAT TOO. GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM HANG ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ARNIE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUYS ARE DOING THERE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS THE HEARING REPORT ON FISCAL YEAR 20, 19 2020 URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM. AND MATT, I THINK YOU HAVE THE LEAD ON THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU. SO I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO BRIEF THE REST OF THE BOARD EARLIER TODAY, UH, THE URBAN FORESTRY BOARD, UH, RIGHT BEFORE YOURS. SO I'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK UPDATE FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T ON HERE, GIVE YOU, UM, FOR, FOR LAST YEAR'S REPORTING. UM, WE WERE AGAIN RECOGNIZED AS TREE CITY USA FOR THE 12TH CONSECUTIVE YEAR IN A ROW. SO THAT'S A FANTASTIC ACCOMPLISHMENT. UM, WE PLANTED 59 TREES. UH, WE CLEANED UP AFTER AN TORNADO THAT CAME THROUGH ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2019, UM, THAT, THAT RIGGED DAMAGE ALL OVER THE PLACE. UM, BUT KNOCKED DOWN A LOT OF TREES AND, UM, COVID DID KIND OF MESS A LOT OF THINGS UP AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THE TRAINING THAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE GONNA, UM, BE ABLE TO RECTIFY THAT GOING FORWARD IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT WAY AND STILL BE ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. UM, LAST YEAR'S ARBOR DAY WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2019 AT HALF PARK, AND THEY ALSO DID THEIR TREE GIVEAWAY WITH GPL ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2019, IN WHICH THEY GIVE AWAY 500 TREES. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THEY DID, UH, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. I WAS ACTUALLY, I ASKED JERRY CARTER CAUSE I KNOW HE WAS THERE. DID YOU TAKE ANY PICTURES WHEN YOU WERE THERE LAST, UH, AT ARBOR DAY LAST YEAR, JERRY? UH, I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN MR. CHAIRMAN AND I SHARE THEM WITH HIM WITH MATT PLEASE. THANK YOU. KENYA. DID YOU GO TO IT? NO. YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? MAYBE JONATHAN, I FORGET. ANYWAY, IT WAS A LITTLE COOL FOR THAT DAY. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN FOR MR. RUIZ. UM, I WAS READING, UM, THE, OH, NOW WHAT AGENDA? AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT TRAINING. UH, IS THERE ANY ADVICE OR TRAINING THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE POWER COMPANY TO THREE? THOSE THREE IS BETTER. SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, AN ARBORIST. UH, HIS NAME IS GRANT THAT WORKS ON THEIR STAFF, UM, THAT, AND THEN THEY SUBCONTRACT OUT THEIR TREE WORK TO, UH, NELSON TREE COMPANY. UM, UTILITY LINE TRAINEE OR UTILITY PERONI IS A FICKLE BEAST. UM, IT, IT IS VERY, VERY HARD TO DO, CORRECT SRI PERONI AND GET THE CLEARANCE THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR POWER LINES AND NOT MAKE THE TREE LOOK LIKE IT HAS BEEN BUTCHERED. IT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD. UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU DO CORRECT TREE PERONE AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUT MORE THAN YOU PROBABLY NORMALLY WOULD DO TO GET THE CLEARANCE THAT YOU NEED, BUT IF YOU DO IT RIGHT, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AS OFTEN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND YEAH, THAT [00:15:01] CONCERN. AND I KNOW I SOUND LIKE I WOULD SAY THIS IN EVERY MEETING AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT BEING CALLED AS A THREE CT AND ALL OF THAT. AND WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND OUR TOWN AND YOU SEE THOSE UV TREES IS TERRIBLE AND ALSO ALSO LEARNING IN THAT WAY, UH, IS DAMAGING OUR TREES. SO WE ARE TRULY A TREE CITY. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT AN EFFORT ON DOING THAT. I HEARD BEFORE THAT THIS WAS THE RECENT IS BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ABOUT TIME ALSO. IT WAS JUST DOING THAT. IT'S FASTER TO CHOP TREES AND THAT'S IT, BUT I DIDN'T READING ABOUT IT. AND THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT HAVE PROVED THAT IF WE DO IT CORRECTLY, AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, WE CAN DIVIDE HEALTH CITY IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR AND THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE OTHER HOUSE AND ROTATE THEM. AND IT HAS PROVED THAT YOU CAN ALSO, UM, SAVE TIME ON THAT WITHOUT DAMAGING OUR TREES AND MAKING THE CITY TO LOOK BETTER. THAT'S ALL THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. AND IF I'LL CHIME IN ON THAT, WE, WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I WISH WE HAD A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND ON THAT IS, UM, WHEN, WHEN THE POWER COMPANIES ARE IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO MAKE EVEN THE BEST CUTS AND THE BEST TECHNIQUES, THE MISTAKE WAS MADE YEARS AND YEARS AGO TO ALLOW THE TREE UNDERNEATH THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND SO ONCE THAT HAPPENS IN THE NIGHT, THEY GO, UM, AND ENTER IN A POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT HOMES HAVE ELECTRICITY. THAT'S THE PRIORITY. UM, IT'S NOT THAT THEY HATE TREES IT'S THAT THEY GOT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAJOR SAFETY, UH, PROTOCOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT JUST ANYBODY CAN PRUNE ON A POWER LINE, THEY HAVE TO BE POWER LINE CERTIFIED. UM, AND I'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH POWER COMPANIES IN THE PAST AS WELL AS I KNOW MATT HAS. AND, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A TIME FACTOR, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T, I'VE BEEN TOLD, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO BABYSIT TREES. UM, AND, AND OTHERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE AMIABLE TO MAKING, THEY'RE NOT THE PRETTIEST CUTS, BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE HEALTHY CUTS. UM, AND THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY GOOD CUTS. AND SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY, THEY STRUGGLE WITH. UM, AND I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH ENCORE BEFORE AND THEY ALSO HAVE A STAFF ARBORIST AND, AND THEY, THEY TRY VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IT'S ATTRACTIVE AND AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, BUT YET THERE, AGAIN, THEIR PRIORITIES KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON. WELL, PERHAPS INSTEAD OF THAT, WHY DON'T WE SEE NOW WE HAVE A THREE COMMITTEE. WHY DON'T WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO START HELPING THESE POWER LINES WITH THAT? I KNOW IT COSTS MONEY, BUT WE CAN TRY TO DO SOMETHING. I MEAN, WE ALL ARE, UH, PROUD OF BEING CALLED THE TREE CT. SO LET'S, LET'S SHOW THE WEEKEND, TREAT OUR TREES IN THE RIGHT WAY, NOT JUST TO START PLANTING TREES EVERYWHERE. IT'S MORE ABOUT KNOWING HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND, AND MAKE THE CD ALSO LOOK BETTER. I THINK SO, CAN YOU, I, I KNOW THAT, UH, OR I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW THERE'S SOME KIND OF A LIST OR A, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A ORDER OR WHATEVER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LIST OF TREES, LOW GROWING TREES THAT THEY RECOMMEND FOR PLANTING AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE GET TO THE NEXT PART, WE MIGHT TALK IT, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT URBAN STREET, URBAN FORESTRY PLAN OF SOME SORT, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE LOVE THEIR TREES, RIGHT. THEY HATE TO SEE THEM SEE THEM GO. AND, UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF, YOU KNOW, HELPING THEM REPLACE THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE SUITABLE TREES THAT AREN'T GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS WOULD BE A BETTER, BETTER CHOICE. YES. YEAH. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A GOOD PLAN ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH THIS SITUATION BECAUSE I, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YES. OKAY. KENYA, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ME AND DOING MY RESEARCH, UH, CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE THREE, 4.3, FOUR OF THE FRANKLIN LEGAL, UH, PLANNER TELLS AND GIVES THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS ON WHAT IS REQUIRED TO OWN PRUNING THE TREES. AND IF YOU WERE TO EVER TO SEE THE DIAGRAM WHERE THE, WHERE THE TREE, THE TREE GROWS LIKE THIS, BUT THE PRUNING GOES LIKE THIS. AND IT, I MEAN, AND IT'S HORRIBLE. I MEAN, AT THE, AT THE TOP OF A POWER POLE, UH, THE PRUNING, THE TREES HAVE TO BE ABOUT 10 FEET FROM THE POLE. UH, THERE ARE NO LAMBS INSIDE OF 10 FEET ON EITHER SIDE THAT'S 20 FEET. OKAY. SO THE FIRST POINT OF WHAT DAVID BROUGHT UP IS THAT THERE ARE A LIST. THERE IS A LIST OF, OF SLOWER GROWING TREES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS GROUP [00:20:01] AND, AND PASS THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN PLANT WITHIN THIS RESTRICTED. I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A HYPOTHETICAL THING. IT IS A, IT IS A, IT IS, IT IS IT'S THE LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY. SO IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU COULD GET THEM WHERE THEY DIDN'T PLANT THE TREES THERE TO BEGIN WITH, ARE YOU PLANTING THE SLOWER GROWING TREES? YOU COULD LOOK AT A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DID OVER ON CENTERVILLE ROAD CALLED KENSINGTON GARDENS. AND I WAS ON THE ARBORIST THERE SERIOUSLY. AND THE FIRST HALF WHERE I STAYED ON HER ALMOST EVERY DAY, THE TREES WERE PLANTED 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO, AND THERE'S NOT A, ONE OF THEM THAT'S REACHED A POWER LINE, BUT AS THEY GOT TO GOING OUT TO THE DOWNHILL SIDE DOWN THERE, THEY PLANTED THREE OR FOUR TREES THAT WERE NOT OF THE SAME TYPE. AND THEY'RE ALREADY INTO THE POWER LINES. AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN CALL OURSELVES A TREE CITY AND YOU DRIVE DOWN PLACES LIKE CENTERVILLE ROAD OR BROADWAY, OR THESE OLDER AREAS WHERE THE TREES HAD SPENT ALL THESE YEARS MATURING. AND JUST AS THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE, THEY HACK THEM TO PIECES. SO I THINK IT'S ABOVE US, BUT IT NEEDS TO MAYBE START WITH US AND GET INTO THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET THEM, GET THEM TO, UM, CREATE A BETTER ORDINANCE. AND I, HOPEFULLY MATT, I HOPEFULLY WILL WITH YOUR EXPERTISE AND THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD OFFER, THAT THIS COULD BE THE IDEAL WAY TO, TO START THIS FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, KENNY. AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE FOR NEW, NEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION. THERE, THERE IS. I THINK BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR ALONG, I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE RESEARCHING WHAT IT SAY. I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. MOST CITIES HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE FOR THAT ALREADY. UM, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S TYPICALLY AN ELECTRICAL EASEMENT OR RIGHT AWAY, OR ANY UTILITY EASEMENT IN GENERAL. THERE SHOULDN'T BE A TREE IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S MATURE AND GETTING TO A POINT WHERE THOSE TREES WERE PLANTED EITHER IMPROPERLY AND WEREN'T INSPECTED 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO. THAT THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. IT'S I THINK THE WORK THAT THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE MODERN NOW PROHIBIT THAT I'VE NEVER KNOWN THE SITUATION WHERE TREES CAN BE PLANTED IN ELECTRICAL RIGHT AWAY TO BEGIN WITH. UM, SO I THINK A LITTLE BIT RESEARCH, UM, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT ON THE STAFF END AND, AND PROVIDE THAT IN AN EMAIL TO THE PARK BOARD, UM, AND, AND VISIT WITH PLANNING AND VISIT, UM, WITH ENGINEERING. BUT, UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO PLANT ANYTHING IN A UTILITY EASEMENT OR RIGHT AWAY, MUCH LESS THAN ELECTRICAL. SO, UM, I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IS UNFORTUNATELY, A PRODUCT OF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO. AND IF YOU IMAGINE, YES, NOBODY LIKES TO SEE THOSE TREES CUT THAT WAY. UM, BUT THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS EITHER CUT THEM THAT WAY TO KEEP THEM OFF THE PROPERTY LINES, OR YOU CUT THEM OFF AT THE GROUND. UM, THERE, THERE IS NO MORE ATTRACTIVE WAY TO DO IT. IF THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, UM, THERE, THERE'S JUST NOT. CAUSE IF YOU CONTINUE TO CUT FROM THAT SHAPE AND YOU START TAKING THESE BIG PIECES, THEN YOU END UP WITH A STUMP AND THEN YOUR BIGGER ISSUE IS, IS IMPROPER CUTS OR TOO MANY CUTS. YOU START CREATING EPICOR MIC SHOOTS, WHICH ARE THESE LONG UGLY SHOOTS THAT COME OUT OF TREE TRUNKS AND INCREDIBLY AGGRESSIVE. AND THEY THEY'RE RIGHT BACK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. SO SOMETIMES THE BEST PRUNE IS WHAT I CALL A BAZELL PRUNE, RIGHT AT GROUND LEVEL. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT, THE TREE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT MAYBE A PART OF THIS, UH, ANDY AND MS. CHAIRMAN WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AND STEAM, THESE AREAS WHERE THESE TREES HAVE DONE THIS AND YOU COME IN AND YOU TAKE THE TREES OUT AND YOU COME BACK THROUGH OUR FORESTRY, UH, REPLANT, A PROPER TREE, AND POSSIBLY MOVE IT TO A BETTER LOCATION, UH, TO, TO REINVIGORATE THE AREA. BECAUSE IT'S JUST, UH, IF YOU SEE THIS, BUT THIS IS THIS, THAT'S THE CUTTING, UH, ISN'T THAT TERRIBLE. THAT'S WHAT A TREE IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. YEAH, WE CAN PUT THIS TO REST UNTIL WE GET MORE INFO. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP. I'VE CONSULTED WITH MANY, MANY OF THE POWER COMPANY AND MANY, MANY, A CITY AND MANY, A PRIVATE HOMEOWNER ON NATURE'S JUST LIKE THIS. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND, AND COME BACK AND KIND OF GIVE A FORWARD FORWARD, UM, AND KIND OF LEADING INTO THE NEXT PIECE, WHICH IS THE, THE, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE'LL START TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS WHERE WE, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE MAYBE THERE'S SOME ONGOING ISSUES AND STARTING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF HOW YOU CAN, MAYBE WHAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT. UM, SO GOING INTO TO NEXT YEAR, WE WILL, UH, REAPPLY [00:25:01] FOR TREE CITY USA. UM, OUR ARBOR DAY FOR 2020 IS FRIDAY. UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A, UM, SMALL EVENT THIS YEAR AND WE'RE GOING TO VIDEOTAPE IT AND THEN HAVE A VIDEO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO POST ON, ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND PUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT ARBOR DAY. AND, BUT WE'LL STILL GONNA HAVE AN OFFICIAL OBSERVANCE OF IT. OUR TREE GIVEAWAY WITH GARLAND POWER LIGHT IS GOING TO BE, UM, ON SATURDAY, UH, WE'RE GIVING AWAY 400 TREES AND GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE GARDNER FOR THIS TREE GIVE AWAY. THEY HAD NEVER GIVEN AWAY A SMALL TREE THIS YEAR. ONE OF THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS, IS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A SMALL TREE IN CASE THEY'RE PLANTING A TREE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THERE'S AN HOUR AHEAD, AN OVERHEAD POWER LINE THERE. SO WE PROVIDE THEM WITH INFORMATION ABOUT LOOK BEFORE YOU PLAN, MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU HAVE A POWER LINE THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS BIG OAK, YOU WANT THIS, THIS, THIS PRETTY RED BUTTON, LET ME TELL YOU, THE RED BUDS WERE THE MOST POPULAR TREE, UH, IN OUR GIVEAWAY THIS YEAR. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS AND THE EDUCATION THAT WE CAN DO. AND YOU KEEP DOING THAT STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU DON'T RUN INTO THOSE PROBLEMS 30 OR 40 YEARS LATER CAUSE DOES ANDY HIT IT ON THE HEAD? THERE WAS A PROBLEM THAT HAPPENED A LONG TIME. UM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO TRAINING IN HOUSE, UH, WITH OUR STAFF, UM, ON PROPER TREE GROUP FOR ANY PROPER PRE-PLANTING REMOVALS SAFETY, ALL OF THAT. UM, SOMETIMES THE MOST DANGEROUS THINGS THEY'LL USE ON A DAVID DAY IS A CHIPPER AND THE CHAINSAW. UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW TO REEVALUATE THE, THE OLD CONTAINER NURSERY AND START TO BRING THAT BACK TO LIFE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START TO GROW OUT SOME MORE TREES THAT WE CAN PLANT INTO OUR PARTNER SYSTEM. HOW DO WE MORE EFFICIENTLY START TO USE, UM, THE, THE GREENHOUSE AND TO GROW OUT PLANT MATERIAL? UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO IDENTIFY MEDIANS AND ENTRYWAYS AND STARTING TO PROGRAM THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVELY, UH, TO, TO MAKE THEM POP AND REALLY SHOW AND BE ABLE TO USE THE GREENHOUSE GROW OUT THAT MATERIAL. AND THEN REALLY START TO DIVE INTO LOOKING AT DOING, UH, OR FORESTRY MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY, AND REALLY STARTING WITH AN INVENTORY OF OUR PART TREES. UH, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF, OF HAVING THE EQUIPMENT THERE USING OUR GRAPH AS A SYSTEM, TO BE ABLE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. UM, BUT HOW DO WE GET INTO OUR PARTS INVENTORY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT CONDITION IT IS, WHAT SIZE IT IS, WHAT IT'S COMPOSED OF, UM, SO THAT WE CAN START TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO REMOVE TREES THAT NEEDED TO BE REMOVED. UH, AND THEN WHAT'S A PLAN TO SYSTEMATICALLY, UM, PLANT TREES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF, UH, OF GOOD, YOU KNOW, I'M OF THE MINDSET THAT, UM, IF YOU CAN PLANT ONE TREE GRADE, YOU COULD PLANT A MILLION TREES AND, AND BETTER, BUT WE DON'T, CAN'T PLANT A MILLION TREES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AS STRATEGIC AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WHEN WE PLANT TREES SO THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THOSE, THOSE BENEFITS. AND SO WHAT I'VE RECOMMENDED TO THE TREE BOARD IS THAT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN AND START TO LAY OUT WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, UM, WHAT THE ROI IS ON IT, HOW WE GET THERE, WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO DOING IT AND KIND OF THE PLAN THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, TO DO THAT. UM, THERE'S ALSO IN YOUR PACKET, A LINK TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, URBAN FORESTRY ANALYSIS THAT I DID FOR DALLAS. UH, ONE I THINK WAS MUSKIES. WHAT WAS THE LAST ONE DEN, UM, RELEVANT AND IN DALLAS, WHICH WERE THREE REPORTS THAT I DID THAT I WANT TO DO ONE FOR GARLAND AS WELL, AND WHY THESE REPORTS ARE REALLY GOOD IS ONE, IT STARTS TO SPELL OUT THE CASE. NOT ONLY DOES IT GIVE YOU THE BASE MATERIAL TO WRITE YOUR PLAN, BUT IT TELLS YOU JUST LIKE WHEN WE DEAL WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER ASSETS, WHETHER IT'S A PLAYGROUND OR A BUILDING OR WHATEVER, IT HAS A VALUE TO IT. AND TREES ARE THE ONE ASSET IN OUR, UH, PARK S WITHIN OUR PARKS THAT ACTUALLY APPRECIATE OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER ASSET THAT WE PUT IN THERE, IT STARTS COSTING US MONEY THE DAY YOU PUT IT IN, AND IT STARTS TO DEPRECIATE TREES. ONCE YOU PUT IT IN, YOU MAINTAIN THEM. THEY ACTUALLY APPRECIATE AND VALUE OVER TIME. AND WE HAVE A VERY, VERY GREAT TREE CANOPY COVER IN THIS CITY. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME TO THIS JOB AT THE VERY BEGINNING. AND, UH, THAT ASSET HAS A VALUE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT ASSET. UM, JUST LIKE WE WOULD ANY OTHER ASSET WITHIN OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND SO THIS INVENTORY WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT. AND THOSE REPORTS WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT OF THAT, AND THEN USE THAT AS OUR BASE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD. SO IN A IT'S VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL, UH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT TREES AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL. AND SO LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING INTO THIS IN A LOT MORE DETAIL WITH YOU ALL, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, PLEASE. YOU [00:30:01] NEED TO UNMUTE CHAIRMAN. WE GOT YOU THOUGH. SO ARE YOU MOVE, UH, MATT, UH, COULD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION ON THE, UH, UH, THE NOVEMBER 6TH, UH, ACTIVITY AT AVALON PARK. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING. NO, NO, NO. AND THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T SERVE AS, BECAUSE OF COVID THIS YEAR, WE, WE ARE KEEPING IT VERY, VERY SMALL. AND SO IT'S JUST GOING TO LITERALLY BE SOME, WE'RE GOING TO ASK WHY WE'RE GOING TO VIDEOTAPE IT. UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY, MAKE ANYBODY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE OR MAKE ANYBODY FEEL LEFT OUT OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, EVERYBODY BECAUSE OF RESTRICTIONS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO IT THIS WAY THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THE PART MORE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET AN INVITATION TO IT, THEN THAT'S MORE RANDY, PROBABLY. RIGHT. SO THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS THAT WE ARE STILL KIND OF UNDER THE, FROM THE MAYORS, UH, DISCRETION, UNABLE TO INTENTIONALLY CREATE A GATHERING OF OVER 10. UM, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HIT THAT REAL QUICK WITH PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF AS WELL. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT THE DECISION IS THE CORRECT DECISION JUST GIVEN THE SITUATION IS LET'S MAKE SURE WE STILL DO IT. UM, AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE GREAT REACH CAUSE WE'LL HAVE, UH, PUBLIC MEDIA RELATIONS HELP US BROADCAST IT. WE'LL HAVE OUR MARKETING FOLKS HELP BROADCAST IT. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE IS OUT THERE AND, UH, AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE'RE DOING IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND THEN THE KEY IS THAT WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT. AND THEN SECONDLY, FOR, FOR, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF MATT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE WORD MAY HAVE GONE TOO, BUT THE CITY COLLECTED FROM, UH, DEVELOPERS WHO HAD AT ONE AT A DISTRICT WHILE BACK, UH, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE $800,000 IN TREE MITIGATION FUND, A TREE MITIGATION FUND WAS ESTABLISHED IN ORDER TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS REMOVING. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE WORKING ON THAT. HAVE THEY, IF THEY HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING THAT MONEY TO START USING A MASS PLAN, UH, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. THEY, UH, UH, THAT'S WHEN BOOKOUT LED THE CHARGE WITH, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE USE OF NOT ONLY TREE PLANTING, BUT SHRUBS AS WELL, UM, AND, AND THE IRRIGATION NECESSARY TO SUPPORT IT. UM, SO THAT, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US AND WE'VE ALREADY UTILIZED THOSE FUNDS IN ORDER TO REPLACE TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GARLAND ON, ON, UM, A COUPLE OF STREETS THAT ARE NOT TOO FAR FROM AUDUBON PARK. UM, SO THAT'S BEGUN AND THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US. UH, WE, BUT THAT MONEY WILL NOT LAST FOREVER BECAUSE GARLAND IS AS YOU KNOW, MOSTLY BUILT OUT. AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF ONLY IN REDEVELOPMENT IN SOME, SOME DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME, SOME RAW PARCELS OUT THERE THAT, THAT MAY, UH, GET SOME FREE MITIGATION, BUT ALSO TREE MITIGATION FUNDS CAN BE A BARGAINING CHIP FOR COUNCIL TO, UM, HELP BRING ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'VE GOTTA BE REAL JUDICIOUS AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE USE THOSE FUNDS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT THEY'RE SUSTAINABLE. ARE YOUR, ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THAT TRY TO MAKE IT A SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEAR, UM, EXPANSION OF USING THOSE FUNDS OVER THAT, THAT KIND OF A PERIOD OF TIME, OR IS THAT I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING THINGS OUT. SURE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. I THINK WHAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE FROM, FROM MATT GOING FORWARD WILL BE A VERY ROBUST URBAN FORESTRY PLAN, UM, OR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN, TREE HEALTH PLAN, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, AND IT'LL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. SO WE HAVE PURPOSEFUL, INTENTIONAL PLANTING PLANS. UM, WE, WE CAN USE THOSE MONEY SOMETIMES WHEN PROJECTS ARE SHORT ON FUNDS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHETHER IT'S A REC CENTER OR A PARK OR A TRAIL, AND IT'S A TIGHT BUDGET, BUT WE STILL NEED TO PROVIDE SOME LANDSCAPING. THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO US, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT WITH A PLAN RATHER THAN JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOTGUN APPROACH. SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT NEXT YEAR, UH, GOING FORWARD WITH URBAN FORESTRY. SUB-COMMITTEE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD EXPECT. YEAH. AND JUST, JUST TO ADD ON TO THAT REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IS SOME BASE CANOPY LAYER DATA OF WHAT OUR BASE BE DOVER IS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, OUR BAY, OUR CANOPY IS CURRENTLY THIS, WHAT DOES THE CANOPY COVER GOAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE? AND THEN HOW MANY TREES WOULD YOU NEED TO PLAN TO DO IT? AND THEN WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE TO PLANT THOSE TREES. AND THEN THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF HOW YOU HAVE A PLAN. AND THE GOOD THING IS, IS WE HAVE SOME OF THAT BASE DATA THAT WE'LL BE RUNNING FORWARD, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE COMING INTO NEXT YEAR. OKAY. SO, UH, MARGARET, HOW MANY ARBORISTS DOES GARLAND HAVE NOW? UM, ANDY, ARE YOU CERTIFIED ARBORIST? DON'T NEED MORE THAN ONE. YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE ONE, YOU GOT ONE. WE HAD ONE AND HE LEFT. SO WE HAD TWO AND YOU TOOK ANOTHER JOB AND ACTUALLY IF YOU COUNT A GPS, THEY HAVE A COUPLE. SO I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT, UM, UH, FACETIOUS THERE, BUT WITHIN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, I KNOW RIGHT NOW I'M [00:35:01] THE ONLY ONE I THINK. AND, UH, WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO PLANT A TREE? 50 YEARS AGO, YOU STOLE MY LINE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. CAN I GET A, UH, A MOTION FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE? UM, MOLLY, UM, I MAKE A MOTION, UH, RECOMMENDATION. THE BOARD APPROVED THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM AS PRESENTED SECOND, THE SECOND MOTION BY MOLLY BISHOP A SECOND BY MARGRET LAGGED. ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. ANYBODY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I CAN'T BRIEFING ITEMS. UM, DELANEY OR SOME OF THESE YEARS. I NORMALLY THE PARKS FOUNDATION COMMITTEE I'LL HAVE AN UPDATE TOO. YES. THE FIRST ONE IS DEFINITELY MINE. SO WE ARE SUPER PROUD AND EXCITED THAT OUR VERY OWN HEATHER LAMBERT, WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR OVER AT HOLFORD, SHE WAS RECENTLY NAMED THE TRAPS NORTH REGION DIRECTOR. SO, UM, THAT'S OUR AREA THAT WE WORK WITHIN THE BIG TRAPS ORGANIZATION INTO, SHE GETS TO LEAD AND PLAN AND WORK WITH A BUNCH OF, UM, REC PROFESSIONALS AND PART PROFESSIONALS ON OUR S UH, NORTH REGION CONFERENCE. AND SO NORMALLY THAT'S HELD IN NOVEMBER. UM, WE WON'T BE HAVING ONE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID. UM, BUT WE WILL BE BACK AND PLANNING THAT FOR ALAN FOR NEXT YEAR. SO ANYWAY, SHE'S THE BIG CHEESE FOR OUR REGION AND WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF HER. THAT'S AWESOME. IT IS A BIG DEAL. THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE REGIONS IN THE TEXAS RECREATION, PARKS SOCIETY, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, AND CENTRAL. UH, SO THAT PUTS THOSE. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF LARGE DIRECTORS. AND SO THAT PUTS THEM ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR TRAPS. AND SO THEY HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING RELATED TO THE REGION, BUT THEY ALSO PROVIDE INPUT AND DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE FOR THE AGENCY STATEWIDE AS A WHOLE. SO SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN TRAPS. I'VE, I'VE KNOWN HEATHER A. LONG TIME FOR, THROUGH TRAPS AND WORKING WITH THE NORTH REGION AND SHE'S ALWAYS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. SO SHE'S, SHE'S EARNED IT, EARNED IT WELL, AND WE'RE HAPPY FOR HER. SHE WON AN AWARD LAST YEAR, TOO. RIGHT. SHE DID IT. SHE WAS OUR RECREATION PROFESSIONALS. RIGHT. PRETTY AWESOME. YEP. I ALREADY TOLD HER, THANK YOU. SHOULD WE KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE OUR EDUCATOR WHO OUR EDUCATION DIRECTOR FOR TRAILS? WELL, LAST YEAR IT WAS. AND THEN I TOOK A NEW JOB AT A NEW CITY THAT HAD SO MANY PARKS TO BUILD. I HAVE DEDICATED THAT CHAIR WENT TO THE VICE CHAIR. AH, VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. WE NEEDED A GREAT SITUATION THAT I FELT THAT, UH, IF I COULDN'T GIVE IT 110, I NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE ELSE COULD, CAUSE THIS IS A LOT GOING ON AROUND HERE. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU OVER HERE. OKAY. ANYTHING ON HEATHER? OKAY. UM, MARGARET, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE PARKS FOUNDATION? SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO OPEN UP A CONVERSATION ABOUT PLACING BENCHES AND PARKS AND WHAT IS INVOLVED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HOW CAN THE GARLAND PARTS FOUNDATION HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN? GOOD QUESTION. UM, HAVE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GO IS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE Z ADS FOLKS ARE WORKING ON, UM, IN BETWEEN OTHER TASKS IS HAVING A, UH, A STANDARD OF, OF AMENITIES THAT GO INTO PARKS. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL KIND OF A DONATION AND GIFT CATALOG. AND THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS, IS THAT IT GUIDES THE, UM, FOLKS THAT HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS AND WANT TO DO THINGS THAT ARE GREAT FOR THE PARKS, BUT THEY DO IT IN A WAY THAT CONNECTS WITH THE DESIGN INTENTION OF, OF EACH OF THE PARKS, RATHER THAN IT BEING THEIR FAVORITE THING. BUT THEN IT DOESN'T QUITE JIVE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, UM, THAT WILL BE SOME TIME BEFORE THAT'S FORMALIZED AND I WOULD EXPECT PARK BOARD WOULD SEE THOSE DRAFTS SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PREDICT WHEN JUST BASED ON THE WORKLOAD. UM, SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST FACILITATE FOR NOW KIND OF UNOFFICIALLY PIECE BY PIECE, THAT WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND SAY, HEY, IF IT MEETS [00:40:01] OUR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR WHATEVER PARK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MANUAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. OKAY. UM, I, I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON THE BOARD'S TOES BEFORE I REALLY TALK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH. WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP, UM, THIS MONTH. SO, UM, I WAS ASKED TO ABOUT AN ISSUE PAPER AND I'M LIKE, WELL, I CAN'T REALLY DO THAT WITHOUT THE BOARD. SO WE'LL GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER. UM, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM US IN THAT ISSUE PAPER, WHERE WE'RE JUST KIND OF PRESENTING WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO JUST LOCATION AND JUST KIND OF THE INTENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME, UM, STANDARDS THAT WE KNOW WE CURRENTLY USE, UM, BOTH FROM A PRODUCT SELECTION AS WELL AS AN INSTALLATION STANDARD. OKAY. UM, IT'S NOT JUST THE BENCH, IT'S GOTTA BE THE CONCRETE PAD THAT GOES WITH IT. AND THEN ALL OF THOSE APPROVALS, I'D LIKE TO SEE, GO THROUGH Z AD'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AS WELL AS, UH, MATT'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, UM, IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, THEY'RE SAFE, THEY HAVE SOME INTENT, UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT IRRIGATION OR OTHER ASSETS WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY QUICK I THINK NO BIG DEAL. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, IF WE WERE, IF THERE WAS AN INTENT TO PLANT A TREE WITH, IN LIKE A TREE, A TREE AS A PART OF THAT CATALOG THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WOULD THAT HELP THE, UH, TREE CITY USA STUFF FOR YOU FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? OR IS, DOES IT HAVE TO BE KEPT TOTALLY SEPARATE? IT, IT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK IT COUNTS NO MATTER HOW IT GETS THERE. UM, I WOULD BE, I WOULD HESITATE RIGHT NOW TO COMMIT TO A DONATION TREE PROGRAM WITHOUT VISITING WITH MATT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. I UNDERSTAND IT. AND I'LL TELL YOU KIND OF WHY IT, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IT HAS INCREDIBLE BENEFIT AND VALUE. SOMETIMES I FIND THAT ONCE THAT DOOR IS OPEN AND PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE TREES, PERHAPS IN THE MEMORY OF A LOVED ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, AND THAT TREE DOESN'T SURVIVE, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, CAUSE TREES JUST, THEY DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A PRETTY GOOD PERCENTAGE, THEN YOU GOT SOME UPSET FOLKS ON, YOU KNOW, WE DONATED THIS TREE, THE NAME OF SO-AND-SO, WHY THE CITY LET IT, LET IT DIE SO IT CAN WAIT. WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BEST PARAMETERS ARE FOR THAT. UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD PUT THAT ON OUR TO-DO LIST, BUT I WOULD, I'D BE HESITANT TO COMMIT TO IT RIGHT THIS MINUTE. I UNDERSTAND. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES LIKE A BENCH THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT PRODUCT CATALOG? UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS IT'S VERY, VERY COMPREHENSIVE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A COMPANY, A CORPORATION, ANOTHER FOUNDATION, ANOTHER GROUP, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE A ROTARY OR KOWANAS. SO ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, AN INEXPENSIVE, BARBECUE PIT, ALL THE WAY TO BASKETBALL COURT. I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, SCOREBOARDS ARE COMMON. UM, LOT, LOTS OF AMENITIES THAT WE WOULD STANDARDIZE ON, I WOULD INCLUDE IN THAT CATALOG. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING, UM, UH, HOW DIFFICULT IS TO CONSIDER IN THAT CATALOG WATER FOUNTAINS FOR HUMAN AS DONE? OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WELL, I WAS ASKING BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL INSTALLATION. IT DOES. AND SO WHEN WE CREATE THE PROCESS, IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT GETS REVIEWED BY STAFF FOR FEASIBILITY. YOU KNOW, IF IT MEETS THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A STANDARD FOR DRINKING FOUNTAINS, UM, WITH AN ADA HEIGHT THAT A STANDARD HEIGHT THAN A PET BOWL. UM, AND THEN SOMETIMES A JUG FILLER DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION. SO THE STANDARD IS, IS EASY. AND THEN THE INSTALLATION IS JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING THAT IN WITH STAFF. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE COMMON ON A DONATION CATALOG. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE PARKS FOUNDATION? OH, SORRY. SO WE'RE EXACTLY WITH THE FOUNDATION. DO YOU HAVE A FIVE OH ONE C3? YES, SIR. WELL, WE ARE, WE ARE, UH, BY TEXAS STATE STANDARDS. WE ARE NON-PROFIT. WE ARE THIS NEXT, WE'RE GETTING OUR FIVE OH ONE C3 PAPERWORK TOGETHER. OKAY. IT REQUIRES A, UH, A FEE. HE ALSO WROTE OUR BYLAWS. OH YEAH. AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT BYLAWS AND LOOKING FOR THAT THROUGH A LAWYER. RIGHT? WELL, UM, ACTUALLY LAW STUDENTS ARE PROHIBITED FROM GETTING, GIVING LEGAL ADVICE. SO, [00:45:01] UM, I'M LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT LAWYER. IF ANYBODY KNOWS SOMEONE THAT MIGHT WANT TO JUST LOOK SOMETHING LIKE MR. ALBERT, HE IS, UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL CONFLICT OF INTEREST PERHAPS. YEAH. WE WOULD FIND ONE, BUT I MIGHT ASK HIM JUST TO LIKE DO IT FOR A FRIEND AND THEN THEY WOULD BE OKAY. I JUST GOT WORD BACK FROM MY FRIEND. WHO'S A LAW STUDENT THAT SHE COULDN'T DO IT. SO I'M LIKE, OKAY. I'M SURE WE CAN FIND ONE. YEAH. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON? YES. THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING ALL THAT. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PICKLEBALL COURT UPDATE THE LONG AWAITED PICKLEBALL COURTS. RIGHT? SO WE, WE PUT, WE PUT THIS ON AT THE REQUEST OF SOMEONE ON PARK BOARD. SO IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OTHERWISE, THERE ARE, UH, I HAVE SOME BROAD ANSWERS OTHER THAN THAT, WAS THERE, WAS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC OTHER THAN JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN? RIGHT. WELL, I KNOW THAT CENTRAL PARK IS, IS IN NEED OF A REVAMP ON THE TENNIS COURT. AND I THINK YOU SAID THAT THERE JISD ACTUALLY HAS A CONTRACT WITH YOU GUYS TO, UH, HELP MAINTAIN THEM. AND ALL OF THAT, UM, IN THE NEXT TENNIS COURT REDO, CAN WE JUST HAVE ONE PICKLEBALL COURT WITHIN THAT GROUP OF TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PUT UP? UM, SO YEAH, THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WHETHER IT BE ONE OR MORE, UM, THERE AREN'T ANY SET IN STONE PLANS AT THE MOMENT, THE COURT THAT'S AT CENTRAL PARK. YES. MATT HAS BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, NEED SOME ATTENTION. UM, AND THERE IS AN AGREEMENT, MATT, I BELIEVE IT GOES BACK TO 1970 SOMETHING. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? AND SO 1975 FIVE. OKAY. SO, UH, IT'S NOT LIKELY BEING ADHERED TO ANYWHERE. I KNOW THAT IF WE NEED TO REPLACE THE, THE TENNIS COURTS PROPERLY WITH FENCING AND LIGHTING, UM, PROPER POST-TENSION SLAB AND ALL THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY IN THAT 800 TO 800,000 TO A MILLION DOLLAR RANGE FOR A SET OF FOUR COURTS. UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD WITH COUNCIL PRE COVID REGARDING RICK ODIN PARK. THAT WAS WHAT TO DO WITH THE TENNIS CENTER, A FUTURE. UM, SO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT SOME SITES FOR THAT. UM, AND SO WE ARE, UH, WE HAD MADE SOME HEADWAY WITH THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT A CIP PROJECT REQUEST TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION RELATED TO THE TENNIS CENTER. SO THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IF FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO ADD PICKLEBALL TO THE TENNIS THAT WOULD REPLACE WHAT'S AT JACK COLEMAN IN THE RECODE AND PARK. UM, ANY OTHER TIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT PICKLEBALL WHERE WE'RE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING FOR IT, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A HUGE DEMAND. AND I KNOW THAT WE I'D MENTIONED THAT WE HAD BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH SOME PRIVATE GROUPS THAT WERE LOOKING FOR FINANCE, UH, INVESTMENT FOR A PICKLEBALL FACILITY THAT'S YET TO COME TO FRUITION. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S HIGH ON MY LIST AND I THINK IT'S, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET IN STONE AT THE MOMENT. SO I REMEMBER THE, UH, THE DEPUTY OVER AT THE COLEMAN TENNIS CENTER. I FORGET WHAT HER NAME WAS, BUT, UH, SHE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR PICKLE BALL COURTS AND THE ABILITY TO RUN A PICKLEBALL PROGRAM OUT OF THE TENNIS CENTER. YEAH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT THE TENNIS FOLKS WILL SAY, OR THAT I HAVE HEARD IS, AND IT'S TRUE. SOMETIMES HAVING THEM STRIPED, SOMETIMES THE TENNIS FOLKS, DON'T LIKE ALL THOSE STRIPES ON THEIR COURT AND VICE VERSA, THE PICKLEBALL THAT NEITHER CAUSE YOU CAN PUT, UM, TO PICK A BALL COURTS PER, PER TENNIS COURT GENERALLY. UM, AND SO THOSE, THOSE ARE OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU BUILD ONE PICKLEBALL COURT, IT'LL IMMEDIATELY BE 19 TO FEW, RIGHT? YES, NO, IT'S FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I CAN TELL YOU, UH, WHATEVER YOU BUILD, IT AIN'T ENOUGH KENYA. YES. UM, SO THE, [00:50:03] THE, THE, OH, I APOLOGIZE. THE CORE OF THE TENNIS COURTS ARE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO FIX THOSE, THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO STAY THERE. WELL, SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS TO, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION THAT YOU TALKING ABOUT RICK ODIN. YES. RIGHT. SO THE, THE DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL WAS FOR US TO ASK, THEY ASKED TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION. UM, AND WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE LOOKED AT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, UM, SO THAT THEY, IN THE, IF THERE'S SOME BUDGET AVAILABLE TO BASICALLY GET THEM BACK, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS 13 COURTS, UM, WITH THE INTENT OF, IN THE FUTURE, TRYING TO GET THEM TO A, UH, 20 COURT FACILITY, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF THE IDEAL NUMBER FOR THEIR TOURNAMENTS. UM, BUT THAT'S ALL GOING TO ABOUT TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE, UH, COUNCIL LEVEL CIP BUDGET. YEAH. BUT I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MILLION OR SOME DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVESTED IN WHAT IS ALREADY THERE AT THAT PARK. SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA, YOU ARE PLANNING TO INVEST THAT MONEY TO FIX THE FANS AND THE TENNIS SKIRT. UH, IT MEANS THEY ARE GOING TO REMAIN THERE. SO RIGHT NOW, THE BUDGET FOR RECODE AND DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, DOING ANYTHING WITH THE TENNIS FACILITY, IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING AROUND IT. UM, AND A LOT OF DEMOLITION OF EXISTING FACILITIES, BUT BECAUSE THE BUDGET, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED DOES NOT INCLUDE ENOUGH TO DO A NEW TENNIS FACILITY. SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THERE, SOME OTHER MONEY AVAILABLE IN ANOTHER PARCEL, UH, IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING AT THIS POINT. SO FOR THE TIME BEING THAT THE FACILITY AT RECODE WILL BE AS IS, SHOULD I THINK THERE'S TWO ISSUES. ONE IS THE CENTRAL PARK TENNIS COURT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING? OH, SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ONCE IN CENTRAL PARK. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER ONE THEN, BECAUSE, WELL, SOMEHOW COUNCIL PROMISE THIS, THIS TENNIS CENTER, PEOPLE THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE DONE FOR THEM. AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE LEVER, ANYTHING, UH, IT WILL BE GOOD TO SEE AT LEAST TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE AT. SO, UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PROMISES MADE OTHER THAN TO LOOK AT IT FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHAT DOES THE BUDGET AT RICK ODIN PROVIDE. AND RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T PROVIDE NEW TENNIS FACILITIES, BUT I THINK THERE'S, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN OTHER AVENUES AND ANOTHER LOCATION. AND SO NONE OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN ANY DETAIL YET AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOON. SO, AND THEN BACK TO CENTRAL PARK, REPLACING THAT IS ALSO A BUDGET REQUESTS, BUT ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE SOLVED WITH MONEY. AND NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED JUST YET. OKAY, DON, JERRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? AM I, WHERE WERE YOU ON THE 2004 BOND COMMITTEE NOW? THAT'S THE ONE, I, THE ONLY ONE I MISSED LATE SEVENTIES, CAUSE I, I KNOW THERE WAS, UM, A PROPOSAL FOR A SUPER BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, SOCCER COMPLEX, UH, TUCKER VILLE, UM, ON HIGHWAY 66 ACROSS FROM THE FIRE, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. YES. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A BUILT. AND THEN, UM, SOMEBODY MENTIONED, I DUNNO, WHO WAS ABOUT MOVING THE TENNIS CENTER THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT TENNIS WAS IN THAT BOND IN 2004. UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS SAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND INFORMATION TILL AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND NOT ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THAT BUNCH OF MOVING PARTS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH YET. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT TONIGHT WOULD BE THE TIME FOR THEM TO FIND OUT. UM, SO THEY'RE THERE, THEIR COUNSEL IS AWARE OF THE SITUATION AND, AND THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET REQUESTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THEM TO CONSIDER. UM, AND AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS I GET SOME DIRECTION ON THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DEBRIEF EVERYONE ELSE. OKAY. AND THAT'D BE HERE EARLY NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, RIGHT? UH THAT'S WHEN IT'S FINALLY APPROVED. YEAH. I THINK IT'S APPROVED IN LIKE FEBRUARY, BUT I SHOULD HAVE SOME, SOME INDICATION BY THEN, BUT AGAIN, ANYTIME IT INVOLVES, UM, LAND AND SOME OTHER, OTHER VARIOUS MOVING PARTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS IN THE [00:55:01] PUBLIC FORUM AT THE MOMENT. SURE. I UNDERSTAND MOLLY. OKAY. ALL I WAS GOING TO ALL, I WAS GOING TO SAY IN ADDRESSING THAT DAWN'S, UM, QUESTIONS IS THAT, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PARKS BOARD WAS ASKED TO PRESENT, UM, THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THE 2004 BOND PROGRAM. AND THERE SEEM TO BE AT THAT TIME IN 2004, A NEED, UM, IN DIFFERENT AREAS, WE'VE ADDRESSED THE SKATE PARK, BUT TOQUERVILLE WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE, I THOUGHT FIVE FIELDS AND THEY WERE, THERE WAS A DEMAND FOR FOOTBALL, BIG BOY BASEBALL IS WHAT THEY CALL IT. AND, UM, AND SOCCER, UH, WHERE THE PREDOMINANT THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED THERE AT THAT TIME, AND BASEBALL MAY HAVE HAD MORE THAN ONE AND FOOTBALL MAY HAVE THAT HAD MORE THAN ONE. UM, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, WHETHER THAT BOND MONEY IS RESTRICTED TO THOSE SPECIFIC, UM, NEEDS OR THAT WERE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME AS, AS SOMETHING FOR, UH, ANDY TO COME UP WITH A DEFINITION ON THAT FROM A RESEARCH AND FEEDBACK THAT HE GETS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. MARGARET, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. SO WHAT, OR WHEN ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS TO COUNCIL? I I'M, I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT THE DATES ARE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SET YET WE WITH THE, WITH THE STAFF LEVEL. SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, BECAUSE I THINK WE MIGHT BE GETTING AWAY FROM THE PICKLEBALL DISCUSSION AND INTO A TENNYSON AND TUCKERBIL DISCUSSION THAT, THAT WE COULD ABSOLUTELY, UM, DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE. BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF IDEAS DISCUSSED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL DURING RICK ODIN. UM, NONE OF THOSE IDEAS HAVE HAD BEEN ADVANCED SINCE THEN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF, LOT OF GOOD IDEAS ON THE TABLE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. AND WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO KIND OF EXPLORE THOSE. UM, I W I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK THAT YOU EXPLORE THOSE WITH THE PARKS BOARD ALSO, UM, WHERE PICKLE BALL IS CONCERNED. I THINK EVERYONE REALLY AGREES THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO GET IT INTO A COURSE SOMEWHERE AROUND GARLAND. NOW WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. YEP. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THE BOARD, THE PARKS BOARD TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, AND IF THE TENNIS, UH, THE TENNIS CENTER STAFF WANTS TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR NEEDS, AS FAR AS PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS GOES, UM, I THINK WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. SURE. YEAH. UH, ANOTHER IDEA THAT WAS KICKED AROUND IS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET AT, UH, HOLFORD. WE'VE GOT SOME OLD COURTS OVER THERE THAT MIGHT COULD BE REPURPOSED, UM, THAT WOULD PROVIDE SEVERAL PICKLEBALL COURTS. THAT'D BE GOOD. OKAY. THE TENNIS COURTS AT NORMAN GROVES PARK NEXT TO JACKSON, MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT'S A CITY FACILITY, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SO MANY THAT ARE ADJACENT TO SCHOOLS. SOME OF THEM ARE ON CITY PROPERTY. SOME OF THEM ARE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, SOME OF THEM, WELL, I MEAN, CITY, UH, CITY TENNIS COURT THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A MIX. AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW MATT WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. UM, AND TRYING TO DETERMINE WHO'S, WHO'S GOT WHAT MAINTENANCE AND WHO'S WHO'S COURTS OR WHO'S FROM THAT OLD AGREEMENT. UM, SO HE'S WORKING ON INVENTORY AND THAT AS WE STILL WANT IT, LOU HOFF, UH, YES. AND THEN, UH, WAS IT SAM HOUSTON, MIDDLE SCHOOL? THERE'S A TENNIS COURT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CITY'S, I'M ASSUMING IT'S A CITY. THAT'S, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INVENTORY CAUSE I'VE BEEN INVENTORYING ALL THESE. SO HOW ABOUT I PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER INTO A REPORT AND THEN CAN GET THAT TO ANDY AND HE CAN GET IT TO YOU AND YOU GUYS CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE, TO THE GROUP. PARDON? MY FATHER JUST SKETCHING. AND, UH, CAN'T YOU PLAY PICKLE BALL WITHOUT THE LINES. THERE'S TENNIS COURTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE, THERE ARE. AND WHAT I'M LEARNING IS THAT MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO A MINI SOCCER INSTEAD OF TENNIS OR BASKETBALL. CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE MULTI-USE. SO THERE'S, THAT IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS THERE. UM, WELL, PART OF IT, THERE'S A WOMAN IN MY DISTRICT THAT IS, UH, ABOUT TO GRAFFITI YOUR TENNIS COURTS WITH DUCT TAPE TO GET A PICKLEBALL COURT. SO I'M JUST WITH YOU THAT THAT MAY HAPPEN. MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO STANDARD. THAT'S RIGHT. MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE DIMENSIONS IS REALLY GRILLING CATHY. I THINK WE'VE BEAT THE FILE. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE DUCK CREEK GREENBELT ART PROJECT UPDATE. OKAY. WHILE I'M TALKING, KEITH, CAN [01:00:01] YOU PRESENT THE MAP, THE RENDERING OF THE, OF THE PARK. YOU GUYS MAY HAVE RECALL SEEING THIS WHEN WILLIAM SPENCER OF MHS PLANNING AND DESIGN PRESENTED ALL OF THE PLAYGROUND DESIGNS. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, KEITH, MAYBE IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN ON THE LEFT PORTION OF THAT MAP IN PRESENT MODE, SOMEHOW NOT. SO ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, IS, UM, COMING OFF OF THE DRIVEWAY THERE, THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE AND THEN OFF THE PAGE TO YOUR LEFT WOULD BE THE POND IN DUCK CREEK. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS KIND OF THE LINEAR PLAYGROUND DESIGN, UM, THAT MHS IS WORKING ON CURRENTLY. UM, IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THAT PLAYGROUND AREA, THEN YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE RUBBER DUCKY IN A CIRCLE OVER THERE ON THE TOP LEFT. THAT IS, THAT IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE SCULPTURE. SO IT'S BETWEEN THE PLAYGROUND AND THE POND THERE, BUDDY ORIENTED GOT THAT IN THEIR MIND. SO KEITH, IF YOU'LL, YOU'LL GO TO THE ONE SLIDE THAT WE LOOKED AT, SO THIS IS THE SIZE AND SCALE OF, OF THE SCULPTURE. AND SO IT WILL BE MOUNTED ONTO A CONCRETE PAD IN THAT LITTLE CIRCLE THAT YOU SAW ON THE, ON THE DRAWING. SO WE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A PATHWAY TO IT YET. SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS HAVE YET TO BE MADE. UM, BUT IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE ORIENTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLYING OUT OF THE POND AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE PLAYSCAPE AREA THAT'S GOING TO HAVE KIND OF THE CAT TAIL WETLANDS THEME. THAT'LL BE REALLY COOL. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THOSE TWO PROJECTS WILL BE, WILL BE CONNECTED AND WHERE THAT PARK IS. IT IS WHERE IT'S, WHERE TURTLE COMES AND HITS DUCK CREEK BOULEVARD. IT'S AGAIN, IF YOU'RE COMING FROM CENTERVILLE, IT'S THE SECOND TURNIN, UH, SECOND OR THIRD. YEAH. IT'S OKAY. IT'S ALMOST BEFORE YOU GET YEAH. IT'S UM, IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR ENTRANCES TO THE TRAIL, RIGHT. AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE BIG POND THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I'LL JUST GO WHERE IT WAS. YEAH. SO IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY NEAT PROJECT. I HAVEN'T, IT'S, IT'S FURTHER ALONG THAN THIS. UM, BUT I HAVE, THEY, UH, THE EMAIL TODAY SAID THAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING SOME INSTALLATION TO BEGIN IN DECEMBER. SO WE'LL START COORDINATING WITH THAT. IT'LL DEFINITELY BE WAY AHEAD OF THIS, OF THE PLAYSCAPE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COORDINATE THE, THERE YOU GO, GOT CREEK TRAIL AND KERNEL. AND SO NORTH OF THE ELKS LAUNCH, NO SOUTH OF THE SOUTH, YES. OR SOUTH OF THE ELKS LODGE. YEAH. AND THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE PARKING LOT IF MONEY PERMITS IN THAT DRIVEWAY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE CONNECTED IN THAT WAY. IT LOOKS PRETTY COOL. IT'S, IT'S HUGE WHAT CITY OFFICES, UM, THAT COMING THROUGH, IT GOES THROUGH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD BY TALITY AND THEY DO A LOT OF PUBLIC ART PROJECTS. UM, A LOT OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT. THEY IT'S, IT'S A REALLY NEAT THING THAT THEY DO. IN MY OPINION, THEY, THEY ENGAGE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. UM, AND, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO ACTIVATE SPACES AND REALLY IMPROVE SPACES. THE ONE WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THEM RIGHT NOW IS AN AVALON PARK TO THE FAR SOUTH, SOME REALLY NEAT ARTWORK GOING ON DOWN THERE AND SOME PARK IMPROVEMENTS, TREE PLANNINGS, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE DILAPIDATED PIER. SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF STUFF THEY DO. WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THEM, UM, THIS YEAR IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, KEITH, A QUESTION ON THIS, THE SCULPTURE, IS IT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE PLACE STRUCTURE. IS IT GOING TO BE SEPARATED IN SOME WAY TO WHERE KIDS DON'T WANT TO NATURALLY CLIMB ON IT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THE EARLY END. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TO BE FENCED OR TO BE PLAYED ON. UM, SO WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION VERY SOON IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING IT IN DECEMBER, BUT THAT, THAT COMMITMENT WAS MADE PRIOR TO MY TIME. SO I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE INS AND OUTS OF IT. UM, IT MAY BE ONE OF THOSE. WE KIND OF NEED TO SEE HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH IT. AND IF IT DOES END UP NEEDING, UH, A FOREFOOT ON OUR MENTAL, YOU KNOW, WROUGHT IRON FENCE, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE REMEDY. I WOULD GO WITH IT. IT'S TOUGH. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH IT, BUT I'VE SHARE YOUR [01:05:01] THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. I'M UM, MY KIDS ARE CLIMATE IN SLIDING DOWN, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME HOME WITH RUSTY FANS. SO YEAH, IT'S METAL, ISN'T IT? YEAH. SO, I MEAN, UM, THE HEAT WOULD BE A DETERRENT, I WOULD THINK FOR KIDS. YEAH. UM, HM. IT WOULD BE, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A PLAY FEATURE. UM, HOWEVER IT MAY GET USED THAT WAY. SO YES, IT THAT'S A DISCUSSION I'M GOING TO NEED TO BE HAVING WITH THE ARTISTS AND WITH THE, AND WITH SCOTT. YEAH. WELL, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT A LOT OF THE BIRDS WILL USE IT AS A RESTROOM POND. UM, I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE VULGAR IN IT OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DETERRENT FOR GOOD PEOPLE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ARTWORK ON THAT NOTE? JUST LEAVE IT RIGHT. OKAY. THE NEXT THING IS PRODUCT SECURITY. YEAH. MOLLY. YOU WANT TO CHOOSE US ONE UP YOU'RE MUTED. PERFECT. YOU'RE READY. UH, I HAD A RESIDENT THAT, UM, UH, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS HAPPENING AT AUDUBON PARK AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE PARK IS STRUCTURED, THERE'S A, ONE-WAY IN ONE WAY OUT, UM, UH, ACCESS TO THE PARK WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING. AND, UM, IT WAS, I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS TIME. I THOUGHT IT WAS WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA. SO HIS COMMENT WAS TO ACTUALLY CLOSE THE PARK AND THAT WOULD HELP PUBLIC SAFETY AS FAR AS MONITORING THE VEHICLES THAT WERE IN THE PARK, UH, WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE. UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT THERE AFTER PARK IS CLOSING. AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE PARK HOUR HE THOUGHT WAS 10:00 PM, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY LATER THAN THAT, UM, WHICH, WHICH PORT, UM, WHICH PORTION OF THE PARKS SPECIFICALLY, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU KNOW, UM, IS IT THAT DEAD END LOOP THAT GOES BEHIND SURFING SWIM WHERE THE PICNIC AREAS ARE? YEAH. AND, AND HE WAS, HE WAS PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT CONDOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT MATT HAD TO GO FIND AND SEE AND PICK UP AND, UM, THAT THEY WERE BEING ADDED TO ACTIVELY DURING THAT SEARCH TIME FOR THOSE ITEMS. UH, SO THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS HIS SUGGESTION THAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO BRING FORTH TO MATT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE THIS, UM, A BIG AGENDA FOR ALL OF YOU TO, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF, BUT WHATEVER ACTIVITY IS HAPPENING AT AUDUBON WAS HAPPENING AT WINDSURF BAY IS HAPPENING AT OTHER PARKS. AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ACTIVITY THAT WE DON'T CONDONE HAPPENING IN THE PARKS. UM, THE SUGGESTION WAS THAT THIS PARK, SINCE IT'S NOT A THREE-PART THAT THERE COULD ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE STOPPED, UM, BY HAVING A CLOSED SIGN THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY'S, UM, SCHEDULE OR PLAN IS IN, IN VISITING THE PARK OVER THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO INVESTIGATE, HOW I FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION AND WHO I APPROACH, UM, FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT'S WALKING OVER THERE. IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAYBE ANSWER IT IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS. IT'S A MULTIFOLD DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE IN, IN MANY PARTS IN, IN, IN ALL CITIES. UM, SPECIFICALLY WHAT I WOULD MAYBE RECOMMEND TO THAT RESIDENT IS THAT HE VISITS WITH HIS COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICER FOR THAT DISTRICT, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ON THEIR RADAR. I'VE FOUND THAT MR. KERNER COULD PROBABLY ELABORATE, BUT I'VE FOUND THAT THESE COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS ARE EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE. THEY GIVE OUT THEIR CELL PHONE NUMBERS AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR, IN THEIR BEAT OR THEIR DISTRICT. AND SO PUT THAT ON THEIR RADAR THAT WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY CAN ADD THAT TO A DIRECTED PATROL. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH IS IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT SOLUTION, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PARK DESIGN ISSUES AS WE UPGRADE THESE FACILITIES, LIGHTING AND ACCESS, AND VIEWABILITY GOES A LONG WAY. AND IF WE EVENTUALLY GET THE RIGHT BUDGET, I KNOW IT'S UNDERFUNDED RIGHT NOW FOR THAT ROAD, BUT LIGHTING IS PART OF IT. AND IT'LL, IT'LL BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT AREA TO BE LIGHTED PROPERLY. AND THAT IN OF ITSELF ACTS AS A GOOD DETERRENT BLOCKING OFF AND GATING ROADS AND PARKS IS PROBLEMATIC. THERE'S NOT [01:10:01] THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. AND I WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONCERNED THAT IT CREATES MORE PROBLEM. THEY'RE GOING TO GO AROUND IT. THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH PLACES THEY SHOULDN'T, AND THEN YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM WITH AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE. SO, UM, SO THROUGH THE SEPTET PRINCIPLES, CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REVIEWS ALL OF OUR PARK DESIGNS. UM, THROUGH THAT SEPTEMBER CONCEPT, LOOK FOR TERRITORY. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE TERRITORY IS CLEAR. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, VISIBILITY AND VIEWABILITY, NO HIDING PLACES, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, OWNERSHIP OR ALL TENANTS OF THE SEPTET. AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF IT IN THIS PIECE OF THE PARK. I, I DO WANT TO SAY ON A POSITIVE NOTE THAT THE PLAYGROUND THAT'S THERE, IT'S JUST REALLY FUN AND AWESOME LOOKING. IT MAKES ME WANT TO BE A KID. YEAH. THAT ONE WAS REPLACED. NOT THAT LONG AGO. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY PRETTY PART OF THE PARK. WELL, IT'S SUCH A BUSY PART. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITED PARK. I MEAN, THERE'S PARK A LOT OF PARKING THERE, BUT IT'S LIMITED BECAUSE IT'S VERY WELL USED. AND SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT GARLAND HAS THAT FLOODPLAIN AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN, THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND HAS BEEN USED. AND I DO WANT TO THANK THAT FOR, UM, ADDRESSING MY QUESTIONS, UM, SEPARATELY FROM, FROM THIS MEETING. SO I'LL ADD A BATCH SPRING CREEK, UH, FOREST PRESERVE AND THE ASSOCIATED PARKS. CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME. WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES AND WE PICK UP A LOT OF STUFF. AND, UM, YEAH, WE, WE, WE KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, POLICE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, IN THE LOOP AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS RESPONSIVE AND DOES WHAT HE CAN. WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, TELL OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY TO CALL THE, UH, GARLAND A NON EMERGENCY NUMBER AND REPORT IT. SO AT LEAST IT'S IN THERE IN THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE AN INCIDENT A MONTH OR SO AGO, MAYBE A FEW MONTHS, UM, WHERE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, W KNOW, UM, LOTS OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE PARK AND GO HIKE AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO WATCH THE CARS. SO SOMEONE WAS COMING IN AND BUSTING WINDOWS AND TAKING THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HAPPENED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE FOUND OUT, WHEN WE TALKED TO THE MPO IS THIS WAS HAPPENING IN SEVERAL PARKS. THE SAME CREW WAS HITTING PARKS THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING OFF OF THINGS. SO WE KINDA, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GET THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK, BUT WE NEVER REALLY GET ANY FEEDBACK WHEN SOMETHING GETS SOLVED, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S BEEN RESOLVED AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SECURITY WAS A BIG ISSUE AND, UH, THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN. SO I JUST THINK WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE PARKS, WE HAVE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WE SHOW, WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON IT, I GUESS. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET IT EITHER. I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY HEAVY WORKLOAD, BUT SURE. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD REQUEST. UM, I THINK I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY ALSO IN THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS IT'S ON HERE. UM, TINSLEY PARK IS, UH, HAS RECENTLY, IT'S ALWAYS HAD A HOMELESS POPULATION, BUT RECENTLY IT'S BECOME QUITE A EXTREME CONTACTED OFFICER SHERIFF AT THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHE'S ONE OF THE HOMELESS LIAISONS. UM, THEY, THEY REALLY DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF GOING IN THERE AND RELOCATING THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY ENCROACHING UPON THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF. AND THAT PARK DOES HAVE A SCHOOL NEXT TO IT, OR ITS SHARES THE PROPERTY. AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING TINSLEY IS ON THE, IS SLATED FOR A NEW PLAYGROUND WITH THE PLAYGROUND THING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. UM, SO THE ISSUE IS WHAT, WHAT KIND OF SICK, WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING OR SOMETHING WILL BE PUT, WILL BE PLACED IN THAT PARK IN THE FUTURE? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PUTTING A PLAYGROUND IN THAT PARK, UM, THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BRING MORE CHILDREN INTO IT. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY'RE, I MEAN, I'M APPROACHED EVERY TIME I GO TO THAT PARK BY SOMEONE. UM, SO I, I JUST WORRY ABOUT CHILDREN THAT ARE PLAYING IN THAT PARK AND I FEEL ARE PLANNING TO DO ANYTHING. SURE. UH, WITHOUT THE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME, I DON'T KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE IT IN THE PLAYGROUND PROJECTS, LIGHTING WHEN THE BUDGET, UM, PERMITS OR IF IT'S JUST A REALLY SUPER HIGH NEED. OUR PRACTICE TYPICALLY IS ANYTIME WE REDO ROADS AND PARKING LOTS, THE LIGHTING GOES WITH IT. UM, BUT TINSLEY DOESN'T [01:15:01] HAVE THAT ON THE LIST, BUT WITH THE PLAYGROUND, LET ME VERIFY, I'LL GET WITH ZIAD AND WE'LL VERIFY IF THERE'S LIGHTING IN THAT SCOPE. UM, IF NOT, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT TO IT AND THEN I CAN GO LOOKING FOR MONEY. RIGHT. IT REALLY JUST NEEDS SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THE ULTIMATE PLACE TO HAVE A TENT BACK THERE IN THAT LITTLE PRESERVE AREA. YEAH. I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK MATT'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH HER AT PD ON, ON THE TASK FORCE. WE HAD A, YEAH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND THEY DO IT WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR FOLKS AND THEY DO IT ACCORDING TO THE LAW, OF COURSE. AND SO WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH CENTRAL PARK, THEY JUMPED RIGHT ON IT. SO JUST KEEP US APPRISED OF ANYTHING YOU SEE. AND WE'LL, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE JUST CAN'T LET GO OF. WE GOT TO GET ON IT PRETTY QUICK. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE LIBRARY UNDER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? NO, SIR. NO. OKAY, GOOD. WE, WE TRY NOT TO DO ANY READING AND LISTEN, IT HAS BIG PICTURES AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T DO MATH, MOSTLY CARTOONS. THAT'S WHY WE GOT TO PUT A LIBRARY ON A PARK PROPERTY. THAT'S RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? DID THAT PASS? YEAH, I THINK SO. YEAH. SO WE'RE PAYING MORE SCHOOL TAXES AGAIN. THEY DIDN'T PASS, ACTUALLY WE GET WHIPPED BY THE SAME AMOUNT AND THEY JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT IT THE WAY THEY WANTED. YEP. WELL, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS. YOU, IF IT WOULD HAVE PASSED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER NOW THAT DIDN'T, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A HIGHER BILL. RIGHT. PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. OH, WELL NOT. OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT TOPIC, EVERYBODY. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION GUYS. WE'LL LOOK INTO THOSE ISSUES. YES. THANK YOU. AND JUST KIND OF KEEP US POSTED WHEN WE KNOW THINGS OKAY. DEPUTIZE US PARK POLICE. WELL ACTUALLY LET ME ADD THIS REAL QUICK. IT'S AN, IT'S A THOUGHT AND IT RELATES TO THAT TOPIC. SO I'M NOT OFF THE AGENDA. THE, UH, ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT IN THE LONGTERM AND WE CAN INVESTIGATE IT AND I'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. AND ONE OF THE FIRST PILOT PROGRAMS WAS DONE IN SAN MARCUS AND THAT'S A VOLUNTEER RANGER PROGRAM. UM, SO THERE, THERE IS THAT THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH VOLUNTEER RANGERS AND CERTAIN PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH PROPER TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND THE RIGHT VOLUNTEERS, UM, THAT GIVES YOU EYES AND COMMUNICATION OUT IN THE PARKS. THEY'RE NOT ASKED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN BE AN INFORMATIONAL LIAISON IF THEY'RE APPROACHED AND, AND BE AN EYES AND EARS OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE PARKS. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO EXPLORE. WE CAN CERTAINLY CERTAINLY GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND SEE HOW FEASIBLE IT IS. YEAH. IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS CITIZENS ON PATROL, WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY HAD TO BE TRAINED, THEY DRIVE AROUND AND JUST LET YOU KNOW IF YOU LEFT YOUR GARAGE DOOR OPEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. SAME CONCEPT JUST IN PARKS SPECIFIC. YEAH. COOL. DON, YOU CAN BE THE CHIEF, THE CHIEF VOLUNTEER RANGER. LET'S MOVE ON TO MONTHLY REPORTS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? NOT YET. NOT YET. THEY'LL COME. SO I HAD A QUESTION FOR ZIAD ON HOW HOLFORD PARK REC CENTER AND AQUATIC CENTER, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH DEVELOPING THIS SCOPE, DO YOU SEEK ANY, UM, UM, PUBLIC INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE AREA AROUND THAT THE CITIZENS AROUND THERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN? YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THAT IT WE'VE, WE'VE JUST NOW ENTERED THE CONTRACT PHASE WITH THE SELECTED CONSULTANT. UM, AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED WITH THEM IS THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. SO THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE CONTRACT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DETERMINING HOW MUCH OF THAT PUBLIC INPUT IS, IS NEEDED, WHICH I THINK ABSOLUTELY ENGAGING OUR CURRENT USERS AND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHERE IT MAY GROW A LITTLE BIT, UH, OUT OF BUDGET, PERHAPS I THINK WITH THE BRAND NEW REC CENTER, WHETHER IT'S IN, UH, NORTH CENTRAL OR SOUTH PART OF TOWN, WON'T MATTER. I THINK IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE SUCH A GREAT FACILITY THAT THEY'RE COMING FROM ALL OVER TOWN, NOT JUST THAT SIDE OF TOWN. SO WE'LL RELY A LITTLE BIT ON THE MASTER PLAN, ENGAGE THE USERS AND ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO GET SOME INPUT. OKAY. WELL, I KNOW I CAN GET MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT ACROSS THE STREET. HE GAVE HER THE, OKAY. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? OKAY. WHAT'S NEXT ON THE LIST, SPECIAL EVENTS AND MARKETING. [01:20:03] I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS IN HERE. IT'S NICE TO WHAT THEY'RE UP TO AND HE HAS GOT SPECIFICS AND EVERYTHING. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. HMM, HMM. YEAH, I WILL. I WILL SAY, UM, YES, IT IS ABSOLUTELY A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE STAFF IS SITTING AROUND TWIDDLING THEIR THUMBS. THEY'RE LOOKING AT TAKING ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD AND FINDING WAYS TO DO THEM VIRTUALLY LIKE THE GUZZLER AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, CREATING NEW IDEAS FOR NEW EVENTS. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS WILL COME TO A CLOSE AND GET BACK TO NORMAL, UM, THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, WHICH I REALIZE ISN'T PART OF YOUR PURVIEW, BUT THEY'RE RELATED TO WHAT WE DO. THEY ARE ACTIVELY OUT LOOKING FOR LACROSSE TOURNAMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, LATER IN THE YEAR. UM, OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF BASICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTING VISITORS WHERE WE'RE BUYING LOW TO SELL HIGH WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE IS CUTTING BUDGETS AND DOING NOTHING WHEN IT RELATES TO TOURISM AND VISITORS AND PROGRAMS AND EVENTS WHERE WE'RE OUT SELLING GARLAND AS A DESTINATION FOR WHEN THE COVID RESTRICTIONS DO IMPROVE AND GET LIFTED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE IN A POSITION TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR CONVENTION. WE'RE READY FOR YOUR TOURNAMENT. WE'RE READY FOR YOUR EVENT. UM, COME SEE US. OKAY. EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON MATH THAT LACROSSE IS IN DECEMBER? I BELIEVE SO. YES, SIR. THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW. I THINK THEY'RE OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA. ARE THEY DOING THE CYCLOCROSS? UH, HERE? UH, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO CHECK WITH MR. MOSQUITO AND SEE WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT. I THOUGHT THE BID WAS DUE IN NOVEMBER, SO WE MAY NOT KNOW YET OR NOVEMBER. I'M SORRY. QUICK QUESTION ABOUT LACROSSE. IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE OUTFIELD? NO, NO, NO. THOSE GO AT, UH, ON, ON WINNERS AND AUDUBON SOCCER. OH, OKAY. OKAY. THEY'RE THEY'RE HUGE FIELDS. YEAH. IT'S FOOTBALL FIELD, RIGHT? I THOUGHT I THOUGHT I SAW CARTER COMPLEX. UH, SHOULDN'T BE, IT SHOULD BE THE SOCCER NEXT TO IT IN AUTOBON WELL THAT THEY MADE, OKAY. RECREATION UPDATE NAMED BY GANG QUESTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, AND THE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ATTRACTING TOURISM THROUGH THIS SPORT EVENTS, IT WILL BE GOOD TO CONSIDER THE TENNIS. I'M SORRY TO EMPHASIZE TOO MUCH ON THAT, BUT THEY HAVE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UM, EVENTS ON TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS AND THEY TAKE PLACE RIGHT THERE ON THE TENNIS CENTER. SO IT WILL BE GOOD TO SEE ALSO IF WE'RE IMPROVING OR HELPING OTHER SPORTS THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FIELD, WHY NOT TO HELP AT LEAST A TENNIS CENTER TO IMPROVE THEIR INSTALLATION SO THEY CAN CONTINUE HAVING THOSE SUPPORT THEN EVENTS IN OUR CITY. YEP. W WE, WE AGREE COMPLETELY AND I'LL, I WILL BE HAVING SOME DIALOGUE WITH THEM VERY SOON AS A MATTER OF FACT. YEAH. UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. THANK YOU. SORRY, DAVID. UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED DOING SOMETHING WITH THE DISC GOLF COURSE IN AUDUBON TO MAKE IT, UH, TOURNAMENT READY. UM, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THAT DONE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUTSIDE OF THE, LIKE FOR CIP OR, OKAY, ACTUALLY IT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS. WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT NOW, MATT AND HIS STAFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF ESTABLISHING A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GROUP THAT KIND OF HELPS WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED WITH SOME FUNDS THAT WE HAD LEFT OVER BECAUSE, UH, SOME ATHLETIC EVENTS THAT DID NOT HAPPEN, WE HAD THE BUDGET AVAILABLE TO PUT NEW BASKETS OUT THERE. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE CURRENT PREFERRED TOURNAMENT LEVEL QUALITY BASKETS THAT THEY LIKE. UM, THERE, WE'VE ALSO GIVEN THEM AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MULCH AND THEY VOLUNTEERED TO PUT IT OUT TO COVER THE HIGH TRAFFIC WORN AREAS TO KEEP THE MUD DOWN. THAT'S A BIG DEAL AROUND THE BASKETS AND TEE BOXES. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING THAT OUT THAT WE SUPPLIED. THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH US TO GET, UM, UH, SOME LANDS OR BASICALLY SOME CLEARING AND SOME PRUNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE THE COURSE A LITTLE MORE PLAYABLE JUST FROM OVERGROWTH, UH, ADJACENT TO THE, TO THE WHOLE. SO WE WERE ALREADY MOVING THAT WAY TO IMPROVE THE COURSE AS WE SPEAK. AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO GENERATE SOME, SOME POSITIVE RESULT. THEY ALREADY DO A LOT OF TOURNAMENTS THERE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT A HIGHER TIER OF TOURNAMENT SOON. UM, SO THEN IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HAPPENING. W WE'RE WE'RE PUSHING THAT ALREADY. AWESOME. OKAY. GREAT. WELL, YEAH, JUST A GENERAL COMMENT. WE LOVE HEARING ABOUT THAT [01:25:01] KIND OF STUFF. SO YEAH, THAT WAS KIND OF THING. YEAH. YOU BET. WITHIN THE TIME THAT OUR SPOUSES WILL LET US BE ON THE PHONE. YEAH. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. YEAH. THE RECORD, THE RECREATION DIVISION. ANYTHING ON WHAT? THEY'RE UP TO? ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE A QUESTION. YES, DON. HEY, ARE THEY HOLDING ANY CLASSES IN THE GYMNASIUMS YET? WE DO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT CLASSES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FREE PLAY BASKETBALL? NO, NO, NO, NO. LIKE A CLASS, LIKE, UH, MY KNEE, MY, UH, NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET WANTED TO GET, UH, HIS GRANDSON IN A BASKETBALL CLASS, BUT HE SAID THERE WASN'T ANY, SO BASKETBALL MAY HAVE RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN REGARDS WITH COVID. UM, BUT WE ARE OFFERING SOME OF OUR CLASSES. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON OUR INSTRUCTORS AND IF THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO TEACH THOSE CLASSES, SO WE ARE OFFERING SOME OF OUR STUFF, IT'S JUST DEFINITELY NOT BACK UP TO WHERE IT WAS PRE COVID. ARE YOU LOOKING INTO ANY ADULT CLASSES TO EXPAND THE, UH, RECREATIONAL CATALOG FOR LIKE EIGHT TO 55 YEAR OLDS? YEAH, SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO OFFER SOME GREAT NEW THINGS AND WE HAVE GENERATED A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS. ONE OF THAT'S JUST THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW IN REC IS GETTING PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE THINK, OH, WE'VE PASSED A HUMP. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEWS STARTS COMING OUT WITH CASES GOING BACK UP. AND SO IT GIVES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY TO GET BACK IN AND GET INVOLVED, BUT WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY AND, UM, AMP THAT UP. AND I THINK THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES IF WE CAN GET PAST COVID AND HAVE SOME OF OUR FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RENOVATED AND THAT WILL GENERATE SOME BUZZ TO PULL PEOPLE IN. AND SO WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SURE. IT'S JUST, WE JUST NEED TO GET PAST COVID. OKAY. VERY NICE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT? YES. OKAY. UM, HOW DID THE PROPER TREE DRIVE THROUGH? SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, BUT WE DID A DRIVE THROUGH, UM, PICK UP YOUR BACKPACK TO SCHOOL, BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT. AND, UM, WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO ANTICIPATE. IT WAS OUR FIRST DRIVE-THROUGH EVENT AND WE WERE OVERWHELMED AND HAD A TON OF PEOPLE. AND, UM, WE HAD TO CALL PD DURING THAT EVENT TO HAVE THEM COME HELP US FOR THE RETREAT. WE GOT PD INVOLVED, UM, FROM THE GET GO, WHICH IS GREAT. HOWEVER, THERE WERE A TON OF PEOPLE. THE, UM, EVENT WAS OVER AT BRADFIELD. WE HAD, UM, EASILY ABOUT, I THINK WE HAD 260 CARS ACTUALLY GO THROUGH. AND, UM, THEY WENT THROUGH A PROCESS, THEY GOT TO SEE A HAUNTED SCENE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SCARY SCENE. THERE WERE ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT TRUNKS THAT WERE DECORATED THAT THE KIDS GOT CANDY FROM. SO IT WAS REALLY COOL STAT. IT WAS FUN FOR US JUST TO BE BACK OUT DOING SOME TYPE OF AN EVENT, BUT THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP ONTO LAVONNE. AND SO, UM, AND THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO BRADFIELD. AND SO WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE UPSET IN REGARDS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKING IT UP. AND WE EVEN STAYED. WE WERE, THE EVENT WAS SUPPOSED TO END AT SEVEN 30 AND WE WERE THERE UNTIL EIGHT 39. O'CLOCK TRYING TO STILL HAND OUT THE LAST OF THE CANDY THAT WE HAD. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THE FUTURE, CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS A LEARNING PROCESS, ESPECIALLY NOT HAVING DONE THESE THINGS BEFORE IS WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IF WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO GET TO DO ANOTHER DRIVE-THROUGH EVENT, UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY PROBABLY DO SOME, UM, SOME TIMES DID YOU CAN PRE-REGISTER FOR, UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE JUST STARVING FOR THINGS TO GO DO. AND SO THEY, UM, SHOW UP IN DROVES AND ESPECIALLY IF YOUR EVENT GOES VIRAL AND THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS PICKS IT UP AND PUTS IT OUT THERE. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME AND, AND ANDY LOVES HALLOWEEN AND THE FREE CANDY. AND SO EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO. AND SO, YEAH, IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT WE DID HAVE PD THERE TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC. I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS IN THAT REGARD. IT WAS JUST, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT LEFT UNHAPPY JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT UP TO THE LINE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO A DRIVE-THROUGH EVENT. AND THAT'S ALSO HARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE PREREGISTRATION IS HAVE SOME PEOPLE MAY STILL SHOW UP, SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FROM RECREATION FOR RECREATION? OKAY. UM, ANYTHING ON THE BOND PROGRAM? OKAY. EVERYBODY'S READY TO CALL IT A NIGHT. OKAY. SUGGESTED ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. [01:30:01] I HAD ONE. SO WHAT I KNOW WE'RE DOING SOME, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER A GRANT FOR WATCHING AND WHEN WE GOT A PLAN AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW WE DO A LOT OF EFFORTS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN I'LL SEE SOMETHING ON A NEXT DOOR OR FACEBOOK AND ABOUT SOMEBODY ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKS AND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I SAW ONE ON WATSON THE OTHER DAY RELATED TO THE, UH, UH, PROPOSAL TO PUT THE LIBRARY AND HOLFORD. AND SO I JUST PICKED THE TIME TO POINT OUT WHERE THE MASTER PLAN WAS AND WHAT PAGE WATSON WAS ON. SO HE COULD LOOK AT IT AND TOLD HIM TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY HIS QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID A MASTER PLAN FOR WATSON PARK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HIS QUESTION WOULD BE ANSWERED AT THAT POINT. SO I GUESS I GOT, LET ME BACK TO WATSON, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER IT'S READY AND WE WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS WATSON PARK? IT'S AT LAWLOR AND YALE HOLLOWELL QUARTER, MILE OR HALF A MILE. YEAH, WE, WE, WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE VERY NEXT AGENDA. WE, UM, WE, WE HAVE A ROUGH PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS PROJECT KIND OF GREW, IT STARTED OUT WITH JUST PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT THAT IT WENT TO, WELL, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO PUT A FOOTBALL COURT THAT IT GREW TO, WELL, IT NEEDS A SPLASH PAD. SO AS WE REALIZED THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT THE REALLY, THE BEST WAY TO BUILD A PARK IS AS YOU WOULD BUILD A QUILT, WE DECIDED IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A, IN ITS TOTALITY. SO THAT'S WHEN THE GRANT SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE, TO FILL IN THE GAPS, TO CONNECT THINGS AND IMPROVE IT AS A WHOLE. SO THOSE, THOSE PLANS ARE TAKING SHAPE. I THINK WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. ZIAD COULD PROBABLY ENLIGHTEN THIS ON. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THERE, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE TRICKY IN NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT WE WE'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR FEEDBACK. SURE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER ITEMS? I KNOW WE HAVE A BIG ENOUGH LIST AS IT IS. OKAY. I HAVE 7:35 PM AND I'LL TURN THIS MEETING. OH, MOLLY. BYE. BYE. IT'S FINE. I HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. THANK YOU GUYS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.