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GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER TWENTY THIRD MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT IS OUR CUSTOM TO START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE TONIGHT LED BY COMMISSIONER OTT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN.

HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH THIS COMMISSION IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.

HELP US APPLY YOUR WISDOM TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR GREAT CITY.

AS ALWAYS, BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM.

AMEN.

AND AGAIN, WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.

IF ANY OF YOU OUT THERE ARE WATCHING AND CARE TO JOIN OUR MEETING, YOU CAN FIND A LINK TO REQUEST TO BE A PART OF THE MEETING ON THE GARLAND CITY WEBSITE ON THE AGENDAS.

ON THE WEBSITE, JUST BELOW THE BANNER, FOURTH CIRCLE FROM THE LEFT IS A BROWN CIRCLE WITH MEETING AGENDAS.

GO THERE, FIND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, CLICK THE LINK AND WORK YOUR WAY INTO OUR MEETING HERE.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

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[3a. Consideration of the application of Josh Adams, requesting approval of a Change in in Zoning from Single-Family-7 (SF-7) District to Agriculture (AG) District. This property is located at 905 and 911 East Oates Road. (District 4) (File Z 20-33)]

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BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ROSE HILL ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT TO AGRICULTURE DISTRICT FOR A SMALL FARM USE TO PRIMARILY GROW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES TO SELL OFF SITE TO LOCAL MARKET.

THERE WILL BE NO RETAIL SERVICE ON SITE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THIS REQUEST IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

AND THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR VACANT LAND, WHICH IS NOT YET READY FOR DEVELOPMENT.

LAND WHICH IS USED FOR AGRICULTURAL OR OPEN SPACE PURPOSES.

LAND, WHICH, DUE TO ITS TOPOGRAPHY OR LOCATION WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN OR OTHER UNDEVELOPABLE AREA, IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR MORE INTENSE USE.

AND LAND, WHICH HAS BEEN NEWLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF GARLAND.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALTHOUGH THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PROPOSED SMALL FARM USE WOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND NOT DISRUPTIVE TO COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.

MAY ALSO PROVIDE LOCAL RESOURCES OR THE COMMUNITY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

WE ALSO MAILED OUT SIXTY TWO NOTIFICATION LETTERS, TWO WERE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND FOR THE REQUEST, ONE WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.

AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF THREE RESPONSES.

AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, IF YOU'LL UNSHARE, I'LL ASK YOU--.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS PRESENTATION? UH, COMMISSIONER WELBORN.

THIS IS GRANTED AGRICULTURE IN WHICH FORM IN THAT PROPERTY WILL GO BACK TO WHAT IT IS? SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? IF HE DOES NOT FORM THIS PROPERTY OR WHICH FORM IN IT WILL IT AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO AGRICULTURE? THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT, AND THE PURPOSE OF REZONING TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS FOR THE FARM RANCH USE, WHICH IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT.

IF HE DOES NOT CONTINUE WITH THE FARMING USE, IT STILL REMAINS AGRICULTURAL, THEN AS BEEF BECOMES WITH THE TAXING AUTHORITY AND GETTING TAX BREAKS FOR AN AGRICULTURAL USE.

SO ONCE WE'RE ZONED CULTURE IT STAYS THAT WAY UNTIL ANOTHER ZONING CASE COMES THROUGH CORRECT, MS. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO SORRY TO JUMP IN ON YOU THERE.

ALRIGHTY.

UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS HERE.

TRACY, IF YOU CAN BRING HIM ON DOWN.

OK, HE'S COMING IN.

ALRIGHTY.

HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? DEFINITELY.

LOUD AND CLEAR, SIR.

OK, GOOD.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I'M SORRY? YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH, MY NAME IS JOSH ADAMS AND I LIVE AT EIGHT TWENTY NINE EAST GARLAND, TEXAS.

SEVEN FIVE ZERO FOUR THREE.

OK, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO TELL US.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

I BASICALLY REGISTERED JUST IN CASE THERE WAS ANY THING I NEEDED TO RESPOND TO.

I THINK SHE COVERED MOST OF THE POINTS PRETTY GOOD.

SO, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S JUST UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AT THIS POINT.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

MR. ADAMS, HOW'S IT GOING THIS EVENING? HOW ARE YOU DOING? WELL WELL.

HEY, I THINK THAT THE IDEA IS FANTASTIC.

I MEAN, THE IDEA OF A SMALL FARM IN A KIND OF SUBURBAN RURAL COMMUNITY CAN HAVE

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REAL BENEFITS.

I WANT TO HEAR-- YOU'RE ABOUT SIX MINUTES FROM I 30.

I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.

I MEAN, JUST CAN YOU PAINT THAT FOR US ON THE BOARD ON THE COMMISSION? I MEAN, PRIMARILY, IT WOULD BE A RAISED BED, VEGETABLE GARDENING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE GARDENING OR FARMING YOURSELVES IN THE AREA, BUT THE DIRT HERE IS HEAVILY CLAY.

SO IT'S BETTER OFF WITH IF YOU CAN CONTROL THE DIRT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO TRY TO DO IT AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE, MAYBE START FIRST WITH A COMPETITOR, INSECT SPECIES THAT WOULD EAT THE PESTS AND TRY TO KEEP THE ALL NATURAL INPUTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND BASICALLY JUST TRY TO MAKE A LIVING DOING THIS FARMING TYPE WORK.

I WAS A SECURITY GUARD BEFORE AND I KNOW I GET REAL SORE DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK.

YOU GOT TO SIT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

SO I REALLY NEED SOME KIND OF OTHER WORK AND I'M NOT CUT OUT FOR THE OFFICE ENVIRONMENT.

SO I PUT A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES INTO TRYING TO START THIS FARM AND YOU GOT TO KIND OF JUMP IN AND GO AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

BUT I'M HOPING THAT EVERYTHING COMES TO FRUITION AND THEN I'M ABLE TO GROW THESE VEGETABLES AND FRUITS PRIMARILY, PROBABLY LESS TREE FRUITS, MORE THINGS THAT GROW ON VINES THAT CAN BE GROWN QUICKLY AND DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH WHATEVER COMPLAINTS THEY MIGHT HAVE AND DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT.

SO I'M, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, SO.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE REALLY WHAT ELSE TO SAY THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID ALREADY.

NO, THAT'S PERFECT.

I'VE GOT ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THAT'S FINE.

DIRECTLY BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY IS A SERIES OF MULTIFAMILY ZONED HOMES, RESIDENTIAL AREA.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE YOUR BUSINESS SOME CONCERN? AND IF SO, WHAT DO YOU HAVE PLANNED TO DEAL WITH THAT? WELL, YEAH, THERE'S A FEW BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEHIND THERE.

THE ONLY THING I REALLY NOTICED IS THAT THEY'LL THROW THEIR TRASH OVER THE FENCE FROM TIME TO TIME.

I MEAN, I COULD DEFINITELY PUT UP SOME TYPE OF MOTION DETECTION CAMERAS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD ALERT ME FROM THAT FAR AWAY, BUT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IF PEOPLE WERE MESSING WITH ANYTHING AND TALK TO THE APARTMENTS.

SO, I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT MAYBE IT WOULD BE THEM TRESPASSING, BUT I MEAN, IF IT WAS TOO BAD, I COULD PROBABLY DO SOME TYPE OF GREEN SHADE TO BLOCK IT WITH SOME KIND OF BUSHES OR PLANTS OR SOMETHING.

BUT I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ANYTHING BESIDES JUST PEOPLE, MAYBE KIDS TRESPASSING FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY A BARBED WIRE FENCE ON MY PROPERTY, I'M NOT SURE IF IT EXTENDS ON THEIR LOT.

BUT IF IT DOES, THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT SOMEWHAT ALREADY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE MUCH PROBLEMS OTHER THAN THEM POLLUTING MY LAND AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

THAT'S USUALLY HOW IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST.

I'VE PICKED UP A BUNCH OF TRASH THEY JUST THROW OVER THE FENCE WHEN THEY MOVE OUT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH OF MY INTERACTION IS I'VE HAD WITH THEM.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER O'HARA.

AND YOU'LL HAVE TO UNMUTE, SIR.

NOT YET, YOU'RE STILL MUTED.

WHILE HE'S GETTING HELP, I'LL CHIME IN HERE.

THERE WAS ONE OF THE RESPONSES HAD SOME QUESTIONS, AND SINCE IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND POSE THOSE QUESTIONS.

SOME OF THEM, I THINK, ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS A BUSINESS, NOT AS MUCH OF A FAMILY FARM, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I MEAN, I'M A SINGLE PERSON AND I DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND OR ANYTHING.

I LIVE ALONE.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ME.

ALL RIGHT.

AND LET ME ASK MS. THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SELL, SET UP A STAND AND SELL ITEMS THERE CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE A FARMER'S MARKET USE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

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ALL RIGHT.

THAT KIND OF COVERS THE FIRST ONE.

I THINK THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A SHOP BEING SET UP THERE.

SECOND ONE WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ANY PONDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, FESTER MOSQUITOES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR JUST GOING TO USE SOME FORM OF IRRIGATION SYSTEM? WELL, THERE'S PIPES ALREADY RUN TO WHERE I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING THE RAISED BEDS, ALTHOUGH THAT THE FAUCET DOESN'T WORK, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME KIND OF PLUMBER OR SOMETHING TO FIX THAT.

BUT I MEAN, INITIALLY, I PROBABLY USED THAT POSSIBLY RAIN WATER, BUT I HAVE BARRELS I WOULD PROBABLY STORE THAT IN.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WOULD BE LEFT EXPOSED OR OPEN.

ALRIGHTY.

I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO WATCH OUT FOR.

AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER O'HARA, JUST A SECOND.

GOT ONE LAST QUESTION.

AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS ONE TOO MR. ADAMS THAT THE CONCERN WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING INSECTICIDES THAT WOULD GET INTO THE DIRT AND--.

AND YOU INDICATED YOU'RE GOING TO GO ORGANIC AND TRY TO USE BUG EATING BUGS.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS A SMALL SCALE FARM.

I MEAN, PRIMARILY THE LARGE SCALE FARMS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT MARKET.

I HAVE TO GO MORE SPECIALTY WITH MORE ORGANIC, MORE NATURAL TYPE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF ACRES.

THEY'RE WORKING.

AND THEY JUST SELL IT ALL AT ONE TIME SO THEY CAN JUST SPRAY IT WITH CHEMICALS AND DO WHATEVER.

I'VE GOT TO BE MORE DISCERNING.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY NOT ECONOMICAL TO EVEN FARM THAT WAY ON THIS SCALE.

AND LANDS IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE HERE THAN MOST OF THE FARMING WHERE FARMING IS DONE.

SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE TO.

I THINK YOUR RESPONSE WOULD PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF THIS GENTLEMAN'S QUESTIONS AND THAT IT IS TRULY GOING TO BE A WORKABLE FARM, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S MANAGED THROUGH ORGANICS, NOT PESTICIDES.

GOD BLESS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND COMMISSIONER O'HARA, I THINK YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS NOW.

MR. ADAMS, THIS IS COMMISSIONER O'HARA.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY MEETINGS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO FIND OUT WHAT CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE? I'VE ONLY TALKED TO ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I MENTIONED THAT I WAS PLANNING TO DO SOME FARMING AND HE DIDN'T SEEM CONCERNED.

THAT'S THE ONLY INTERACTION I REALLY HAD ON THE SUBJECT.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I'VE EVEN TALKED TO MY NEIGHBORS BESIDES ONE OTHER TIME.

AND IT WAS THE ONES FURTHER DOWN.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THEM, TOO.

SO I DON'T SEE THEM THAT OFTEN.

I WAS BY THE PROPERTY TODAY.

AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW NICE HOMES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.

AND THE CITY HAS INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT AREA, STREET WISE AND JUST THE OTHER UPGRADES.

AND SO I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HUGE FARM.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL ONE MAN OPERATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, AND FROM WHAT I'VE READ, ONE PERSON CAN ONLY PRETTY MUCH DO LIKE A QUARTER ACRE TO A HALF ACRE.

THAT'S WHY I'M IN A FEW FIELD PLANNING FOR THE MAYBE DO ONE OR TWO CROPS A YEAR FOR THE LARGE PART OF THE FIELDS THAT I DON'T PLAN-- I JUST KIND OF GROW THE WHOLE TIME.

RIGHT.

LIKE GRAIN CROPS, MAYBE LIKE WHEAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN LIKE A COVER CROP FOR THE WINTER.

WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOU I WOULD SAY COMING ON DOWN, BUT YOU'RE ON THE PHONE.

SO GOOD LUCK.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WELBORN YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP.

YES, SCOTT STAFF WOULD KEEP THIS FROM BEING A BUSINESS LIKE A JUNKYARD OR WE HAVE TO WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO BE A BUSINESS? A BUSINESS TO SELL ITEMS? NO, TO OPERATE.

LOOKS LIKE TO ME YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO RUN A BUSINESS.

YES, HE WOULD NEED IT IF HE WANTS A FARMER'S MARKET TYPE OF RETAIL BUSINESS, HE WOULD NEED AN SUP, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER HEARING FOR THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, HIS USE IS UNDER THE FARM RANCH ORCHARD USE THAT'S CLASSIFIED IN THE GDC, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

OK.

SO I'VE GOT A LARGE GARDEN IN MY BACKYARD.

I COULD COME DOWN AND APPLY FOR AG FOR MY LOT? IS THAT RIGHT, SCOTT? WELL, YOU CAN APPLY FOR ANYTHING YOU WANT, WHETHER IT'LL GET APPROVED OR NOT,

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IT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER MATTER.

DOING THIS.

BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME DOWN AND TRY FOR AN AG FOR TAX EXEMPTION.

RIGHT.

BUT THERE ARE RULES IN THE TAX EXEMPTIONS.

YOU HAVE TO PLANT SO MUCH OF THIS.

I HAVE SO MANY ANIMALS.

SO THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM COMING DOWN AND TRYING TO PLAY THE SYSTEM.

THIS GENTLEMAN'S WANTING TO MAKE A LIVING OFF OF IT.

BUT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BUSINESS.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN OPERATE A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, TOO.

WE'VE GOT RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THAT.

SO IT'S PERFECTLY LEGIT AS FAR AS THE OK.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.

I THROW BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER O'HARA.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND I SEE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER O'HARA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT APPEARS TO BE UNANIMOUS.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS, MR. ADAMS. I APPRECIATE IT.

I VOTED AGAINST THAT, SCOTT.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, DID YOU--? I VOTED AGAINST.

OH, YOU VOTED AGAINST IT? I DID NOT SEE THAT.

OK, SO THAT'S EIGHT TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER WELBORN IN OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

I THOUGHT I LOOKED, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD.

ALL RIGHT.

IT STILL PASSES.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN,

[3b. Consideration of the application of Masterplan, requesting approval of an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) 16-35 for Multi-Family Use. This property is located at 4501 North Garland Avenue. (District 7) (File Z 20-37 - Zoning)]

REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDE 16 DAYS DASH THIRTY FIVE FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN FOUR OH FIVE ZERO ONE NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.

ONE SECOND.

OH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR POINTING OUT, UH, MY MISSING COMMISSIONER WELBORN'S VOTE.

HERE IS THE REQUEST AS STATED.

AND HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION.

THE LOCATION IS AT FORTY ONE ZERO ONE NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.

THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY FIFTEEN POINT TWO ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 16 DASH THIRTY FIVE.

AND HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR AND PROPERTIES TO THE NORTHWEST ARE ZONED PD 16-16 FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.

AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THERE IS ALSO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, 17 DASH FIFTY TWO FOR A MIXED USE, AND THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH EAST ACROSS NORTH GARLAND AVENUE IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND THERE IS A WATER PARK.

AND THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED PD 16 DASH THIRTY FIVE, WHICH IS TRACT FOUR AND IT IS DESIGNATED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE AND IT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE PICTURES.

THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.

THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.

THE BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ALIGN THE ZONING TEXT AND THE AS BUILT CONDITION DUE TO A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION.

AND HERE IS THE SUMMARY TABLE.

THE LEFT IS THE APPROVED PD 16 THIRTY FIVE ORDINANCE, AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE AS BUILT CONDITIONS.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS SURFACE PARKING PD SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE SHOWS TWO HUNDRED THREE SPACES.

AND THE AS BUILT CONDITION IS TWO HUNDRED FOUR, WHICH IS ON SITE NOW.

RECOVERED PARKING SPACE.

THERE'S TWO HUNDRED TWELVE PD SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND THE AS BUILT CONDITION IS TWO HUNDRED TWENTY ONE SPACES AND 13 OF THEM ARE TANDEM COVERED PARKING SPACES.

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THE GARAGE SPACES ARE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO AND SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND ONE HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN SPACES IN THE RECORD DRAWING.

FOR TANDEM PARKING SPACES, THERE'S 42 IN 16 THIRTY FIVE AND FIFTY FIVE OF THEM ARE IN THE AS BUILT DRAWING.

FOR TOTAL PARKING SPACES, THE SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE ORDINANCE SHOWS SIX HUNDRED NINE SPACES, AND MINIMUM ONE BEDROOM UNIT FLOOR AREA IS SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT SQUARE FEET.

THE LAST ONE IS THE OVERALL UNIT FLOOR AREA AVERAGE SHOWS NINE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO SQUARE FEET AND SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND THE AS BUILT IS NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS AS BUILT TODAY.

THIS IS SHEET ONE.

THE SECOND SHEET.

HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH IS BUILT TODAY, AND IT IS CONFORM WITH THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES.

PART OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SHEET THREE OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

WE DID MAIL OUT RESPONSES.

THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

GOOD EVENING.

MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE APPLICANT MAKES NO-- INTENDS TO MAKE NO CHANGES, NO PHYSICAL ALTERATIONS TO THE SITE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

LANDSCAPE PLAN INDICATES A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE PRESENT, LIKE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING LOOKING NORTH.

DO WE KNOW IF THE INTENT IS STILL TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE PLAN TO CONTINUING TO BRING UP AND DEVELOP TO THE PLAN? OR IS THIS JUST THE PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT AS IT EXISTS AND IT'LL BE UP TO THE NEXT ORDER TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, I GUESS? THIS IS THE PLAN THAT IS HOW IT'S DEVELOPED TODAY ON SITE, AND IT SHOULD CONFORM WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH WAS APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO, YES, I'M KIND OF LIKEN THIS TO REPLANT WHERE SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND REPLANT OF EASEMENTS, MOVE AND CHANGE, BECAUSE DURING CONSTRUCTION THINGS DIDN'T GO EXACTLY AS PLANNED.

IS THIS KIND OF A REPEAT IN THAT RESPECT? DO YOU THINK? THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DUE TO THIS REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MORE INFORMATION YEAH, I THINK THEY WANT TO GET IT CLEANED UP AND I TAKE IT THE APPLICANTS HERE, WOULD THAT BE MR. FISHER? THAT IS CORRECT.

UH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT.

MY MOUSE ISN'T WORKING.

HERE WE GO.

YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM ON.

THAT WOULD BE A--.

CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, WE CAN AND WE CAN SE YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS WITH MASTERPLAN 2201 MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE TWO ZERO ONE REPRESENTING JPI.

WE HAVE, I BELIEVE BLAKE TAYLOR OF JPI MAY ALSO BE ON.

THERE HE IS.

IN THE EVENT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

THIS REQUEST IS OF THE THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY UNIT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS THAT I'M SURE MOST OR ALL OF YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS AT ARAPAHOE AND GARLAND AVENUE.

WE ARE ASKING TO ALIGN SOME OF THE ZONING TECHS AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN DATA TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED AND BUILT TODAY.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS WITH YOU.

I DO HAVE A POWERPOINT, JUST A FEW SLIDES THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN SHARE.

GO AHEAD AND SCREEN SHARE CAN YOU SEE IT? NOT YET.

OH, OH, I HAVE TO--.

YES, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

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THERE YOU GO .

THERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE DEVELOPMENT, FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THAT AND SOME OF OUR INTERIOR SHOTS IN CASE ANYBODY WONDERED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE INSIDE.

DOWN A UNIT LOBBY.

HERE ARE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS.

WE ARE REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF GARAGE SPACES.

THERE WERE SOME BUILDING AND FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD TO ADHERE TO, INCLUDING SOME FIREWALL THAT REQUIRED SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE.

AND IT RESULTED IN A TOTAL OF FIVE LESS GARAGE SPACES, FIVE FEWER SPACES.

SO WE ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER.

THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME TANDEM PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BASICALLY PARKING SPACES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGES.

THEY WERE UNDER OUR FOOTPRINT AND SO THEY'RE COVERED SPACES AND THEY WEREN'T ACCURATELY REFLECTED OR NOTED ON THE GRAPHIC PORTION OF OUR DETAILED PLANS.

SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO BASICALLY CATALOG THOSE.

THOSE WERE THERE WHEN THEY WERE BUILT.

AND WE'RE JUST WANTING TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE AND THE ACTUAL NUMBER TODAY AT FIFTY FIVE TANDEM SPACES.

WE'RE ALSO-- THERE WERE A FEW PARKING SPACES THAT WE'RE JUST NOT COUNTED IN OUR SUMMARY TABLE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN UPDATE FROM SIX OH NINE TO SIX 14.

THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE SPACES ON SITE THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

AND THERE ARE A FEW LESS COVERED SPACES 212 DOWN TO TWO OH EIGHT BECAUSE WE HAD TO COMPLY WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS FOR ADA PARKING SPACES.

SO WE LOST A TOTAL OF FOUR SPACES UNDER CARPORT.

HOWEVER, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COVERED TANDEM SPACES THAT ARE UNDER THE ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE, BUT UNDER COVER THAT WERE NOT COUNTED.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INCREASE YIELD ABOVE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED AS COVERED.

AND THEN THE LAST CHANGE ALSO HAS TO DO WITH BUILDING AND FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AS WE GOT THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THAT IS TO LOWER THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA FOR ONE BEDROOMS FROM SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT TO SEVEN 12.

HOWEVER, THE OVERALL AVERAGE OF ALL OF OUR UNITS COMBINED, INCLUDING THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOM, IS AT NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX SQUARE FEET AND RPD REQUIRED NINE TWENTY TWO.

SO WE ARE STILL FOUR SQUARE FEET OVER WHAT THE MINIMUM AVERAGE IS.

WE BELIEVE WE STILL NEED THE SPIRIT INTENT WITH THAT ADJUSTMENT, I BELIEVE.

I'LL STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS JUST REAL QUICK HERE, THAT WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THAT.

WE DID HAVE A DUMPSTER LOCATION CHANGE IN OUR FAR WHAT I CALL WESTERN END IN THE CIRCLED BLUE AREA THERE.

THAT RESULTED IN A FEW CHANGES TO OUR PARKING SPACE ALLOCATION.

AND THE GREEN ARROWS REPRESENT WHERE OUR TUCK UNDER PARKING GARAGE PARKING IS LOCATED, WHERE SOME OF THOSE WEREN'T JUST COUNTED.

THEY WERE THERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T COUNTED IN THE SUMMARY TABLE.

I THINK I'LL STOP THERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD AND UNSHARE YOUR SCREEN AND I'LL SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND LET'S GIVE IT ANOTHER SECOND OR TWO.

I GUESS NOT.

NO QUESTIONS.

UH, TRACY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT, SIR.

OK.

ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.

UH, IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONER DALTON.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED.

OK, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSION DALTON, I SAW THE SECOND B COMMISSIONER WELBORN TO APPROVE-- CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

AND LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, OK? I THINK THERE ARE ALL-- YES, WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[3c. Consideration of the application of Masterplan, requesting approval of a Detail Plan for Multi-Family Use. This property is located at 4501 North Garland Avenue. (District 7) (File Z 20-37 - Detail Plan)]

AND THE NEXT ITEM WAS A PARTNER TO THIS ONE, CONSIDER THE APPLICATION MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY USE PROPERTIES LOCATED FOUR FIVE ZERO ONE NORTH CAROLINA AVENUE.

WE'VE SEEN A PRESENTATION ON A DETAILED PLAN.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? ANY INPUT PUT BY THE APPLICANT? OPEN AGAIN FOR THE MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER DALTON.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND IMPROVE THE

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WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WELBORN.

HE WAS FIRST UP AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WELBORN TO APPROVE THE DETAIL PLAN.

SEEING NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND I'M LOOKING MORE CLOSELY NOW.

YEP, THAT LOOKS TO BE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FISHER.

THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

[4a. Zoning Notification Procedures Briefing]

THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS MISCELLANEOUS ITEM.

IT IS A ZONING NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES BRIEFING.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THAT.

SIR, GOOD EVENING.

MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M GOING TO SHARE SCREEN HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OK.

EVERYONE SEE THAT OK? YES.

OK, SO AS AT LEAST SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND IMPROVEMENTS TOWARDS THE CITY'S ZONING NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES AND SO THAT CONVERSATION HAS BEEN WELL UNDERWAY.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE BRIEFED ON WHERE WE ARE, WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED AND OFFER ANY INPUT YOU HAVE.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION BACK ON JULY 20TH TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND KIND OF MENTIONED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCEDURES, LIKE THE LETTERS AND WHAT NOT THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES OUT, THE SIGNS AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT WORK SESSION, A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTED OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TWO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS AND FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER OTT.

AND THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MET ON SEPTEMBER 20 EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER TWENTY SECOND AND OCTOBER TWENTY SEVENTH TO GO OVER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT, AS WELL AS THE ZONING SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED ON SUBJECT PROPERTIES UNDER REZONING CONSIDERATION.

AND ALSO HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE, WHICH WE'LL LOOK AT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

THE CITY COUNCIL JUST HAD ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON THIS ON NOVEMBER 16TH, WHERE WE BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS.

SO THIS IS A VERY, VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION THAT I JUST GAVE LAST WEEK.

BUT THEY CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL WANTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S INPUT ON THIS.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO THE GOAL AND OUTCOME OF THIS PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE THE ZONING NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES WITH THE PUBLIC, AND IT PROVIDES A CLEARER AND MORE INFORMATIVE AND TRANSPARENT INFORMATION AS FAR AS ZONING CASES AND DEVELOPMENT GOES TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING TO NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO I'LL JUST REALLY GO RIGHT THROUGH THE LIST.

THERE'S REALLY SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THIS.

LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE'S THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND YOU'RE ALL COPIED ON THOSE LETTERS THAT TRACY SENDS, TYPICALLY IT'S TRACY THAT SENDS OUT AN EMAIL EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT LETTERS WENT OUT AND WHAT DISTRICT AND SHE ATTACHES THOSE AND THOSE ARE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE.

SO LOOKING AT THE LETTERS, ALSO THE MAP THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LETTERS AND SITE SIGNAGE.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH IT HERE.

THESE WERE THE TAKEAWAYS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE FELT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL LETTERS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT.

CURRENTLY, THE TEMPLATES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THE COUNCIL LETTERS ARE A BIT SIMPLIFIED AND DO NOT INCLUDE A MAP.

I GUESS THE BACKGROUND OR INITIAL THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LETTER IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE SEEING IT IN THE COUNCIL LETTER IS KIND OF A TWO STEP NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS THE SECOND TIME THE CITIZENS SEEING IT, BUT IT MAY NOT BE IF THEY DISREGARDED THE FIRST ONE.

SO THIS WOULD MAKE THE TEMPLATES CONSISTENT BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL LETTERS.

AND THE COUNCIL LETTERS SHOULD INCLUDE A MAP.

LETTER SHOULD BE REORGANIZED TO PUT PLAIN ENGLISH ELEMENTS FURTHER UP.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS, IF YOU'VE NOTICED OUR NOTIFICATION LETTERS CURRENTLY, IT'S GOT THE SORT OF FORMAL AGENDA LANGUAGE TOWARDS THE TOP, THE GDC TYPE LANGUAGE THING AND THEN THE TWO PD ZERO THREE DASH SUCH AND SUCH AND SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND ALL THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE.

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AND THEN FURTHER DOWN WE HAVE A SECTION OF BOLD.

IT STARTS WITH NOTE AND WE KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE REQUEST AS BEST AS WE CAN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO THIS WOULD KIND OF PUT THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE FURTHER UP.

IT SUMMARIZES THE REQUEST.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO CONSTRUCT A GAS STATION.

SO IT'S REAL SIMPLE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.

THE COMMITTEE WANTED FURTHER UP AND HIGHLIGHTED ON THE LETTER.

FRONT SIDE ENGLISH WITH SOME SPANISH.

BUT THE BACK SIDE SHOULD INCLUDE SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

COMMENT FORM CONTAINED WITHIN ONE PAGE, RATHER THAN KIND OF BEING MIXED IN WITH THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION LETTER.

THE COMMENT FORMS SHOULD INCLUDE MULTILINGUAL HEADINGS.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

PHONE NUMBER FOR STAFF MEMBER.

SHOULD THEY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE CLEARLY VISIBLE ON THE LETTER? THERE SHOULD BE A QR CODE OR LINK TO THE TECHNOLOGY.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, ADDING THE WHY THE RECIPIENT IS RECEIVING THE LETTER.

WE OCCASIONALLY DO GET THAT QUESTION.

LIKE I TOLD COUNCIL LAST WEEK, WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS WHERE THE PERSON RECEIVING THE LETTER MAY NOT HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON THE ZONING CASE, BUT THEY JUST THEY'RE CALLING US TO ASK WHY THEY GOT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

DO THEY NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT OR IS IT OK TO TOSS IN THE TRASH OR RECYCLING? AND SO THIS CLARIFIES THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING IT BECAUSE YOU'RE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE ZONING CASE.

USE THE MOST READABLE FONT ON THE MAP ADD THE NOTIFICATION AREA BUFFER AND ADDRESS.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT A MAP HERE IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL WHAT THE RECOMMENDED MAP LOOKS LIKE, BUT ACTUALLY SHOWING THE AREA THAT WAS NOTIFIED ON THE MAP, AS WELL AS PROVIDING AN ADDRESS IF THERE IS NO ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO THE LOT THAT PROVIDES SOME SORT OF LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

MOVING ON TO THE SITE SIGNAGE, THESE ARE THE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE PLACED OUT ON SUBJECT PROPERTIES THAT SAY ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED, THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE'LL LOOK AT A PICTURE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

THEY WANTED AN EASILY MEMORIZED ONLINE LINK FOR THOSE DRIVING BY TO GO TO FOR A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE SIGN SIZE STAY THE SAME.

THE COLOR THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A FEW SLIDES.

BUT THEY RECOMMENDED A NEON GREEN COLOR WITH BLACK LETTERING AND THEY ALSO PREFERRED TWO SIGNS PER FRONTAGE.

IT'S JUST TO REALLY MAKE SURE THESE SIGNS ARE VISIBLE AND EASY TO SEE.

MOVING ON, TECHNOLOGY, REALLY WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO IS THEY WANT TO FOLLOW A VERY SIMPLE, SIMILAR IMPLEMENTATION FOR THIS INTERACTIVE SITE IDEA AS THE CITY OF PLANO DOES.

AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT THEIRS AND SEE WHAT PLANO LOOKS LIKE.

AND THE COMMITTEE REALLY FELT WE SHOULD TRY TO MODEL THAT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE, ALLOWING FOR MORE ACTUALLY ALLOWING FOR ONLINE COMMENTS, NOT JUST RETURNING THE LETTER, SENDING US AN EMAIL.

ADDING A GLOSSARY OF COMMON TERMS AT GDC AND ZONING TERMS. THIS IS A DISCUSSION DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

FOLKS DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES A DETAILED PLAN MEAN OR WHAT DOES COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT MEETING, THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS, KIND OF PUTTING TOGETHER SOME SORT OF GLOSSARY THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE, SIGNING UP AVAILABLE FOR NOTIFICATIONS, ON HEARINGS AND WHATNOT FOR ZONING CASES, MAKING THAT A LITTLE EASIER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR FOLKS.

NOTIFICATION DISTANCE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THIS.

ULTIMATELY, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED KEEPING IT AT FOUR HUNDRED FEET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AS A REMINDER, STATE LAW ONLY REQUIRES TWO HUNDRED FOOT NOTIFICATIONS.

THE CITY OF GARLAND DOUBLES THAT AND THAT IS CODED INTO THE GDC.

BUT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE START, INCLUDING THE PHYSICAL ADDRESSES TOO.

STATE LAW AND THE GDC REQUIRES THAT WE NOTIFY JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN FOUR HUNDRED FEET, TWO HUNDRED FEET FOR STATE LAW, FOUR HUNDRED FEET FOR CITY OF GARLAND AS A LOCAL POLICY.

BUT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADD PHYSICAL ADDRESSES, NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESSES, WHICH SOMETIMES MAY BE OUT OF TOWN OR STATE.

SO THAT WAY IT WOULD BE NOTIFYING RENTERS AND BUSINESSES AND WHATNOT AS WELL.

AND THEN AS FAR AS HOA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTREACH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY HERE AT THE CITY TO SEND OUT LETTERS JUST KIND OF DETAILING THE SIGN UP INSTRUCTIONS.

IT'S KIND OF A ONE TIME LETTER, BUT LETTING THEM KNOW HERE'S HOW YOU SIGN UP.

AND STAY IN THE LOOP.

SO WE'LL JUST JUMP INTO THE LETTER HERE THAT THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED.

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THIS IS NOT WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE CURRENT LETTERS ON THE EMAILS THAT YOU ARE COPIED ON.

THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED TEMPLATE.

MAJOR, MAJOR KUDOS GOES TO FOR REALLY PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND SIMPLIFYING AND JUST REALLY RETHINKING THIS WHOLE THING.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE HIS HARD WORK ON THIS.

IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, I'LL JUST KIND OF JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS ON HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE QR CODE AT THE TOP RIGHT IS A BIG CHANGE OR A BIG ADDITION.

THE READER CAN SCAN IT ON THEIR PHONE AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE WEBSITE WHERE THEY CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION, WHETHER IT'S ON THIS ZONING CASE OR OTHER ZONING THAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY.

THEY CAN DO THAT AND LIKE WE'LL SEE IN A FEW MINUTES HERE WHERE PROPOSING TO ADD AN ONLINE COMMENT WHERE THEY CAN SAY IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE THE ZONING CASE AS WELL.

SO JUST MAKING THAT SUPER EASY.

BIG, BOLD LETTERS NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING AT THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION, IF IT'S A CITY COUNCIL LETTER, IT WILL SAY NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING AT THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.

WE'VE GOT JUST A PLACEHOLDER HERE, THE COVID INFORMATION.

ONCE WE GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WHATNOT, THIS WOULD COME OFF.

OF COURSE.

CURRENTLY IT SAYS, DEAR, I BELIEVE IT SAYS DEAR PROPERTY OWNER.

THIS WOULD BE NEW AND THAT KIND OF EXPANDS IT A LITTLE BIT.

DEAR GARLAND RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER, YOU ARE RECEIVING THIS LETTER BECAUSE YOUR ADDRESS IS WITHIN 400 FEET OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE THAT'S NEW AS WELL IT'S THE WHY THEY ARE RECEIVING IT.

AND THEN HERE, THIS IS REALLY THAT LAYPERSON'S SUMMARY OF A ZONING CASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

IN THIS CASE CASE Z20-26 APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN ELECTRONIC PROGRAMABLE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THIS ADDRESS HERE.

SEE INCLUDED MAP.

THE MORE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE READ LIKE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO PD SUCH AND SUCH COMMA DETAILED PLAN COMMA AND COUNCIL MADE A GOOD POINT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER ESPECIALLY SAID WHAT I TOOK FROM THAT WAS LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE IS GOOD, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY SKIMP ON THE DETAILS IF THERE'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION, INCLUDED HERE, INCLUDE IT.

SO IT'S GOOD TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY DON'T SKIMP ON IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT SHOULD BE IN HERE.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT THING TO KEEP IN MIND, IT'S GOT THE MEETING DATE LOCATION ON HERE, THIS IS JUST AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, JUST A PLACEHOLDER, JUST SHOWING KIND OF WHAT THE TEMPLATE AND HOW IT'S ORGANIZED.

SO DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE CONTENT.

BUT THIS WOULD, OF COURSE, GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

ONCE WE GOT THERE, WE MAY REPHRASE THIS A TAD.

BUT THEN TECH HERE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THIS.

THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS LETTING FOLKS KNOW IF YOU WANT THE REALLY MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE.

THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE POSTED HERE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SO THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN READ TEH STAFF REPORT AND LOOK AT ALL THE DETAILED SITE PLANS, LANDSCAPE PLANS ELEVATIONS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BECAUSE BY THAT POINT, THEY'RE READY.

THEY'RE READY TO LOOK AT WHEN THE AGENDA IS POSTED.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT ADDITION THERE.

THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE LETTERS.

AND THEN FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE AND GO TO THIS LINK I BELIEVE IS INTENDED TO BE THE SAME AS THE QR CODE.

SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER SPOT TO HAVE THAT LINK ONLINE WHERE THEY GO FOR MORE ZONING INFORMATION.

I THOUGHT MR. ROBERTS DID A GREAT JOB HERE OF JUST SIMPLY SEPARATING OUT.

A LOT OF THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION WE'VE GOT, BUT IT IS JUST ORGANIZED MUCH BETTER.

IT'S NOT ALL LUMPED INTO ONE LONG PARAGRAPH.

SO IT'S GOT THE PLANNER PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS.

IT'S GOT A SPANISH SENTENCE HERE.

IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION BUT PREFER TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE IN SPANISH AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN CONTACT MR. DE LA VEGA AT THIS NUMBER AND OR EMAIL ADDRESS.

AND THEN GOING ON TO THE COMMENT FORM THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD BE ITS OWN PAGE, AND THIS IS REORGANIZED AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE THOSE ARE THE TWO OTHER LANGUAGES WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MENTIONED MULTILINGUAL SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED HAVING AVAILABLE ON THESE.

SO YOU'VE GOT A REPEAT OF THE SUMMARY OF THE ZONING REQUEST AND SAME EXCUSE ME, TRYING TO FIND CURSOR I KEEP ACCIDENTALLY CLICKING ON IT.

THE SAME SENTENCE OR SAME INFORMATION IN SPANISH AND THEN AGAIN IN VIETNAMESE.

AND THEN IN VERY BIG LETTERS CAN'T MISS IT, WHERE YOU CAN CHECK THE FOR AGAINST IT'S GOT THE SAME TRANSLATION FOR AND AGAINST THE SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE, ALL THE SAME INFORMATION BELOW THAT WE ASKED FOR YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, ET CETERA.

AND THEN GOING ON HERE, WE ADDED MORE SPACE WHERE THEY CAN WRITE.

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CURRENTLY IT'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE FOUR LINES OR SO.

SOMETIMES FOLKS RUN OUT OF SPACE.

THIS GIVES THEM MORE LINES TO WRITE THEIR COMMENTS IN WHICH SOMETIMES THEY NEED.

SO ATTACHED TO THE MAP OR THE LETTER, OF COURSE, WILL BE A MAP, FOR THE MOST PART, THE MAP IS THE SAME, BUT THE TWO ADDITIONS ARE, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, ADDING THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION BUFFER.

THIS RED LINE INDICATES HOW FAR OUT THAT 400 FEET GOES.

CURRENTLY AS JUST SORT OF A LITTLE TIP YOU CAN YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THE PARCELS THAT HAVE AN ADDRESS ON THE NUMBERS ON THEM THAT INDICATES WHO IS NOTIFIED.

BUT NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.

AND THE CITIZENS ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

SO ADDING WHAT THE NOTIFICATION AREA IS, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY COMMON QUESTION.

WHY DO I GET A LETTER? BUT WHY DID MY NEIGHBOR NOT OR THE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET OR VICE VERSA? AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THEM GOT NOTIFIED AND SOME OF THEM DO NOT THAT'S JUST HOW FAR OUT IT GOES.

AND SO THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED STICKING WITH THAT 400 FEET.

AND ALSO THE ADDRESS BEING ADDED ON THERE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER REZONING.

AND MOVING ON TO SIGNAGE, THIS IS WHAT OUR CURRENT SIGN LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AROUND TOWN.

AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED A BIT DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME, SO SOMETHING THAT REALLY POPS OUT, THEY DIRECTED STAFF TO EXPLORE SOMETHING NEON AND JUST BIG AND BRIGHT.

SO WE GOT WITH OUR SIGN SHOP HERE AT THE CITY AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US.

SOME OF THE CONTENT IS AMENDED AS WELL.

THE COMMITTEE WANTED A LINK.

WHAT WILL LIKELY CHANGE THIS THIS GARLANDTX.GOV WE WILL LIKELY CHANGE THIS TO WHATEVER THE LINK IS FOR THE INTERACTIVE SITE, IT'LL LIKELY BE GARLANDPLANNING.ORG THAT ACTUALLY WAS SOMETHING ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR TWO OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED THE OTHER NIGHT.

WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE THAT DOMAIN EXISTING.

SO I THINK WE ARE JUST GOING TO KIND OF BUILD OFF THAT AND USE THAT.

IT'S GOT A PHONE NUMBER.

CITY OF GARLAND ADDED THE QR CODE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT PER THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN I'LL GO, THIS HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS AT COUNCIL, SO I THINK WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS STOP SHARE AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO OVER HERE AND THEN I THINK I HAVE TO RESHARE MR. CHAIRMAN.

RESHARE AGAIN.

SOUNDS FINE YEP.

I WILL GIVE IT A SHOT HOPEFULLY I HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN THE OTHER NIGHT AT COUNCIL.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE YEAH.

OK, PERFECT.

SO THIS IS THE CITY OF PLANO'S WEBSITE.

SO THIS IS WOULD BE KIND OF THE JUMPING OFF PAGE WHERE IT CAN PROVIDE SOME GENERAL ZONING INFORMATION.

BUT REALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE LOVED WAS THIS LINK HERE.

SO YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK AND THIS IS THE INTERACTIVE MAPPING PAGE.

IT'S A GIS FEATURE.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE HERE, IT'S GOT ALL THE ACTIVE ZONING CASES OF THE CITY OF PLANO.

SO WE'LL JUST CLICK ON ONE HERE JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

ZOOMS IN AND IT'S GOT AN AERIAL HIGHLIGHTS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER REZONING CONSIDERATION OVER HERE.

IT'S GOT THE HEARING INFORMATION WHEN IT'S GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE THE PLANNER INFORMATION OVER THERE.

IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM OR HER CONTACT INFORMATION? AND THEN THIS IS A REALLY NEAT FEATURE HERE.

THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY COMMENT ON THE CASE AND GO AHEAD AND RECORD YOUR POSITION.

SO HERE WE'VE GOT IN FAVOR OPPOSED.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, PLANO OFFERS A NEUTRAL OPTION.

BUT ANOTHER THING THE CITY COUNCIL SAID THE OTHER NIGHT WAS THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE ON HERE AS WELL.

SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.

IN FACT, THIS PULLDOWN ALREADY HAS IN OUR KIND OF DRAFT WORKING.

IT'S GOT IN FAVOR AND IT'S GOT THE SAME TRANSLATION IN SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

SO, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE FOLKS CAN PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS.

AGAIN, ALL THE SAME INFORMATION NAME STREET NUMBER.

AND THIS ONE'S GOT ONE.

THIS PERSON'S IN FAVOR OF THE COMMENTS BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CLICKING ON RANDOM ONES HERE.

AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYONE THERE.

BUT OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL SEE SOME FOLKS KIND OF WRITE IN SOME COMMENTS, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE IDEA AND THE COMMITTEE REALLY LOVED THIS AND THE COUNCIL SEEMED VERY, VERY FAVORABLE OF IT AS WELL.

JUST KIND OF LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD SOME COMMENTS, INCLUDING TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PUT SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE ON HERE AS WELL AND MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR THE FOLKS.

BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND VICE CHAIRMAN OTT MAY ADD TO WHAT I STATED, SINCE THEY WERE MEMBERS OF THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF STOP THERE AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, I WILL KIND OF START OUT BY SAYING WE'RE THROWING A LOT AT YOU REAL QUICKLY AND ANY IDEAS, ANY COMMENTS ARE WELCOME.

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YOU CAN MAKE THEM HERE, BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE FULL PRESENTATION.

AND IF YOU YOU KNOW, AFTER THANKSGIVING DINNER, IF YOU'RE SITTING DOWN JUST WANTING TO DIGEST FOOD, GO OVER THIS AND EMAIL ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE TO.

MR. GUERIN.

BUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ANY THOUGHTS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEADS.

COMMISSIONER WELBORN.

I WATCHED THIS THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I REALLY DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FOUR HUNDRED FEET, I LIKE TO SEE IT LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE TWO HUNDRED FEET IS ONLY REQUIRED AND I THINK THEY DID A REAL GOOD JOB.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND COMMISSIONER OTT, THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE ALSO AND THANK MR. GUERIN FOR ASKING HIM TO SERVE ON IT.

THE OTHER THING IS THE PROGRAM YOU SHOWED US THAT PLANO HAS WILL WE BE ABLE TO USE THAT ALSO AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER? ABSOLUTELY, THIS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THE CITY OF PLANO WEBSITE IS JUST ON THEIR MAIN WEBSITE.

ANYONE, ANY CITIZEN OR ANYONE WHATSOEVER CAN GO ON THERE AND LOOK AT IT OR IF THEY WISH TO COMMENT ON THE ZONING CASE THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

AND SO STAFF WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE RESPONSES THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

WE COLLECT ALL THE EMAILS, THE PHYSICAL LETTERS, WE GET FAXES.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, MAKE SURE WE COLLECT ANY COMMENTS ON THAT AND REPORT THOSE TO YOU ALL WILL THE SIGN LOOKS REAL GOOD.

I HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THE SIGNS.

WHEN YOU ALL MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE DO THEY PUT THE SIGNS OUT OR DO Y'ALL PUT THOSE OUT STILL.

GREAT QUESTION.

SO TRADITIONALLY, STAFF HAS DONE IT.

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY SHIFTED THAT TASK OVER TO APPLICANTS BECAUSE WE NOTICED THAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO THAT.

THEY HAVE THE APPLICANTS PRINT IT AND INSTALLING IT THEMSELVES.

WE GIVE THEM THE SIZE, THE LOOK OF IT.

AND SO WE STARTED DOING THAT MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THAT WENT WELL, IT WENT FINE.

BUT WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND COVID, WE THOUGHT MAYBE AS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE SAKE, WE'LL JUST KIND OF TAKE THAT BACK ON OURSELVES.

SO WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK TO STAFF DOING THAT, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SHIFT THAT BACK TO THAT.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING MORE SCIENCE TO FRONTAGES, AND WHAT NOT JUST SO THE CITY'S NOT ABSORBING ALL THAT COST.

WE MAY WANT TO SHIFT THAT BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

THE REASON I ASK I'M GLAD YOU'RE PUTTING IT BACK TO STAFF OR TO SOMEONE THEY WAS GETTING PRETTY LAX TO WHERE THEY WAS PUTTING THOSE SIGNS.

SOME OF THEM WAS PUTTING THEM WEREN'T VISIBLE.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING BACK THE WAY IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD DONE A GOOD JOB TO START WITH.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ADDING ONTO THE COMMENT ABOUT SIGNS IS BEING IN THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY, IT'S JUST AN EXTRA STEP AND CITIES USUALLY DIRECT YOU TO ONE OR TWO PRINT SHOPS.

AND SO YOU END UP WITH SOME FAVORITISM THERE THAT CAN ONLY GO TO ONE OR TWO PRINT SHOPS TO GET IT DONE UP AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THEY'RE STUCK WITH SIGNS THAT THEY DON'T NEED AFTERWORDS.

AND SOMETIMES LIKE COMMISSIONER WELBORN SAID, WELL, I'LL JUST PUT THEM OVER HERE IN THE CORNER.

AND SO I LIKE THE IDEA WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE A STOCK OF SIGNS, MAYBE WE GET THEM TO PUT IT OUT, BUT STAFF CHECKS ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY LOCATED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF SIGNS AND MAKE SURE WE GET THEM BACK, MAYBE WE CHARGE THEM IF THEY DISAPPEAR.

BOOM.

THAT'S 50 BUCKS TO YOU MR. TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT EASY FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO PUT SOME WORK INTO IT, BUT IF WE GIVE THEM SIGNS AND SCREAM AT THEM AND THEY MISS THE FIRST ONE, THEY CAN SEE THE SECOND ONE.

NOTIFICATIONS THAT ARE MORE READABLE AND FRIENDLY, SO ANY IDEAS YOU GUYS COME UP WITH COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT ANYTHING, ANY INPUT THEY CAN GET? CHAIRMAN ROBERTS.

YES.

IN GIVING THE PUBLIC THIS INFORMATION IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER ON US ALSO BECAUSE THEY WILL KNOW MORE THAN THEY USUALLY DO.

YES.

THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW MORE THAN THEY USUALLY DO.

YES.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OTT YOUR INPUT WAS GOOD ON THAT COMMITTEE, TOO.

THEY WERE ALL GOOD, WEREN'T THEY? OH, YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT COMMITTEE THE IDEAS WERE FLOWING AND WE REALLY.

I'M PROUD OF THE WORK WE DID ON IT.

YEAH.

IN ARCHITECTURE, IT'S ALMOST WHAT WE CALL A DESIGN CHARRETTE, EVERYBODY TOSSING OUT IDEAS AND FLESHING THEM OUT WELL, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, MR. GUERIN FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO US AND AGAIN, SEND ANY COMMENTS

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AND THAT GOES TO THE PUBLIC TOO BACK TO MR. GUERIN.

AND HE CAN PRESENT THEM TO COUNCIL FOR US.

AND REMEMBER, THERE'S NO IDEAS TOO WELL, I COME UP WITH IDEAS TOO CRAZY, BUT YOU GUYS WON'T.

SO ALRIGHTY THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY, THE COMMISSIONER'S STAFF, THE PUBLIC A SAFE AND GOOD THANKSGIVING, BUT ESPECIALLY A SAFE ONE.

BE CAREFUL IN YOUR TRAVELS AND JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME.

AND UNTIL DECEMBER 14TH.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

************ MAKE YOUR EMERGENCY PLAN TODAY.

STEAK SAUCE MADE HERE.

WHISKEY MADE HERE, PAINT, YEAH, MADE HERE.

COWBOY HATS.

HERE YOU TVS ARE MADE RIGHT HERE IN GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS, DEFINITELY MADE HERE IN GARLAND, TEXAS, MADE HERE.

GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 23RD MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT IS ARE CUSTOM TO START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE TONIGHT LED BY COMMISSIONER OTT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME.

HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH A B WITH THIS COMMISSION IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES, HELP US APPLY YOUR WISDOM TO MAKE THE SEARCH FOR OUR GREAT CITY, AS ALWAYS, BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM PRAY.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE PEOPLE, WHICH IS WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.

IF ANY OF YOU OUT THERE ARE WATCHING AND CARE TO JOIN OUR MEETING, YOU CAN FIND A LINK TO REQUEST TO BE A PART OF THE MEETING ON THE GARLAND CITY WEBSITE ON THE AGENDAS ON THE WEBSITE, JUST BELOW THE BANNER FORTHE CIRCLE.

FROM THE LEFT IS A BROWN CIRCLE WITH MEETING AGENDAS.

GO THERE, FIND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, CLICK THE LINK AND WORK YOUR WAY INTO OUR MEETING HERE.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM EAST OT'S ROAD.

AUTUMN LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ROSE HILL ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT TO AGRICULTURE DISTRICT PHRASE FOR A SMALL FARM USE TO PRIMARILY GROW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES TO SELL OFF SITE TO LOCAL MARKET.

THERE WILL BE NO RETAIL SERVICE.

ON SITE IS SUBJECT.

PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THIS REQUEST IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED.

A VACANT LAND WHICH IS NOT YET READY FOR DEVELOPMENT LAND, WHICH IS USED FOR AGRICULTURAL OR OPEN SPACE PURPOSES, LAND, WHICH DUE TO ITS TOPOGRAPHY OR LOCATION WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN OR OTHER AN DEVELOPABLE AREA, IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR MORE INTENSE USE AND LAND, WHICH HAS BEEN NEWLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF GARLAN.

THE FUTURE LANDY'S MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAN PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALTHOUGH THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PROPOSED SMALL FARM USE WOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND NOT DISRUPTIVE TO COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS MAY ALSO PROVIDE LOCAL RESOURCES OR THE COMMUNITY.

APH RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

WE ALSO MAILED OUT SIXTY TWO NOTIFICATION LETTERS, TWO WERE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND FOR THE REQUEST, ONE WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.

AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF THREE RESPONSES AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

UH, IF YOUR LAWN CHAIR ALLOWS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS PRESENTATION? UH, COMMISSIONER WELBORN.

THIS IS GRANTED AGRICULTURE IN WHICH FORM IN THAT PROPERTY WILL GO BACK TO WHAT IT IS.

ARE YOU CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION, IF HE DOES NOT FORM THIS PROPERTY OR WHICH FORM IN IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO AGRICULTURE? THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT, AND THE PURPOSE OF A REZONING TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS FOR THE FARM RANCH USED, WHICH IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT.

IF HE DOES NOT CONTINUE WITH THE WITH FARMING USE, IT STILL REMAINS AGRICULTURAL, THEN AS BEEF BECOMES WITH THE TAXING AUTHORITY ON GETTING TAX BREAKS FOR AGRICULTURAL USE.

SO ONCE WE'RE ZONED, OUR CULTURE STAYS THAT WAY UNTIL ANOTHER ZONING CASE COMES, CORRECT, MS.. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO SORRY TO JUMP IN ON YOU THERE ALREADY.

UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS HERE, TRACY, IF YOU CAN REMIND DOWN.

OK, HE'S COMING IN ALREADY.

HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? DEFINITELY NOT.

LOUD AND CLEAR, SIR.

OK, GOOD INAUGURAL ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I'M SORRY.

YOUR NAME IN YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YEAH, MY NAME IS JOSH ADAMS AND I'M LIVE AT EIGHT TWENTY NINE EAST COAST ROAD, GARLAND, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE ZERO FOUR THREE.

OK, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO TELL US.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

I BASICALLY REGISTERED JUST IN CASE THERE WAS ANY THING I NEEDED TO RESPOND TO.

I THINK SHE COVERED MOST OF THE POINTS PRETTY GOOD.

SO, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S JUST UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AT THIS POINT.

I HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

MR. ADAMS, HOW'S IT GOING THIS EVENING? HOW ARE YOU DOING? WELL WELL, HEY, I THINK THAT THE IDEA IS FANTASTIC.

I MEAN, THE IDEA OF A SMALL FARM AND A KIND OF SUBURBAN RURAL COMMUNITY CAN HAVE REAL BENEFITS.

I WANT TO HEAR YOUR YOU'RE ABOUT SIX MINUTES FROM MY 30.

I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.

I MEAN, JUST JUST CAN YOU PAINT THAT FOR US ON THE BOARD ON THE COMMISSION? I MEAN, PRIMARILY, IT WOULD BE A RAISED BED, VEGETABLE GARDENING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE GARDENING OR FARMING YOURSELVES IN THE AREA, BUT THE DIRT HERE IS HEAVILY CLAY.

SO IT'S BETTER OFF WITH IF YOU CAN CAN CONTROL THE DIRT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO TRY TO DO IT AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE, MAYBE START FIRST WITH A COMPETITOR, INSECT SPECIES THAT WOULD EAT THE PESTS AND TRY TO KEEP THE ALL NATURAL INPUTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BASICALLY JUST TRY TO MAKE A LIVING DOING THIS FARMING TYPE WORK.

I WAS A SECURITY GUARD BEFORE AND I KNOW I KIND OF GET REAL SORE DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK.

YOU GOT TO SIT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

SO I REALLY NEED SOME KIND OF OTHER WORK AND I'M NOT CUT OUT FOR THE OFFICE ENVIRONMENT.

SO I PUT A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES INTO TRYING TO START THIS FARM.

AND YOU GOT TO JUST KIND OF JUMP IN AND GO AND LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES.

BUT I'M HOPING THAT EVERYTHING COMES TO FRUITION AND THEN I'M ABLE TO GROW THESE VEGETABLES AND FRUITS PRIMARILY, PROBABLY LESS TREE FRUITS, MORE THINGS THAT GROW ON VINES THAT CAN BE GROWN QUICKLY AND DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE.

BUT I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH WHATEVER COMPLAINTS THEY MIGHT HAVE AND DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT.

SO I'M, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, SO.

I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE REALLY WHAT ELSE TO SAY, IT HASN'T BEEN SAID ALREADY.

NO, THAT'S THAT'S PERFECT.

I'VE GOT ONE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

JUST ONE DIRECTLY BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY IS A SERIES OF MILITARY FAMILIES, OWNED HOMES, RESIDENTIAL AREA.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE YOUR BUSINESS SOME SOME CONCERN? AND IF SO, WHAT DO YOU HAVE PLANNED TO DEAL WITH THAT? WELL, YEAH, THERE'S A FEW BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEHIND THERE, THE ONLY THING I REALLY NOTICED IS THAT THEY'LL THROW THEIR TRASH OVER THE FENCE FROM TIME TO TIME.

I MEAN, I COULD DEFINITELY PUT UP SOME TYPE OF MOTION DETECTION CAMERAS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THEY WOULD ALERT ME FROM THAT FAR AWAY, BUT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IF PEOPLE WERE MESSING WITH ANYTHING AND TALK TO THE APARTMENTS.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT MAYBE IT WOULD BE THEM TRESPASSING, BUT I MEAN, IF IT WAS TOO BAD, I COULD PROBABLY DO SOME TYPE OF GREEN SHADE TO BLOCK IT WITH SOME KIND OF BUSHES OR PLANTS OR SOMETHING.

BUT I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ANY OLD BEING BESIDES JUST PEOPLE, MAYBE KIDS TRESPASSING FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY A BARBED WIRE FENCE ON.

ON MY PROPERTY, I'M NOT SURE IF IT EXTENDS ON THEIR LOT.

BUT IF IT DOES, THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT SOMEWHAT ALREADY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE MUCH PROBLEMS OTHER THAN THEM POLLUTING MY LAND AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

THAT'S USUALLY HOW IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST, I PICKED UP LIKE A BUNCH OF TRASH THEY JUST THROW OVER THE FENCE WHEN THEY MOVE OUT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH OF MY INTERACTION AS I'VE HAD WITH THEM.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HERETH.

AND YOU'LL HAVE DONE MUSER.

NOT YET, YOU'RE STILL MUTED.

WHILE HE'S GETTING HELP, I'LL CHIME IN HERE.

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THERE WAS ONE OF THE RESPONSES AND SOME QUESTIONS, AND SINCE IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND POSE THOSE QUESTIONS.

SOME OF THEM, I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THIS IS THIS IS MORE OR LESS A BUSINESS, NOT AS MUCH OF A FAMILY FARM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I MEAN, I'M A SINGLE PERSON AND I DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND OR ANYTHING.

I LIVE ALONE.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ME.

ALL RIGHT.

AND LET ME ASK MS., IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SELL, SET UP A STAND AND SELL ITEMS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED FROM THAT SITE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE A FARMER'S MARKET USE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN S&P AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT KIND OF COVERS THE FIRST ONE.

I THINK THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A SHOP BEING SET UP.

THEIR SECOND ONE WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ANY PONDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, FESTER MOSQUITOES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR JUST GOING TO USE SOME FORM OF IRRIGATION SYSTEM? WELL, THERE'S PIPES ALREADY RUN TO WHERE I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING THE RAISED BEDS, ALTHOUGH THAT THE PLASTIC DOESN'T WORK, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME KIND OF PLUMBER OR SOMETHING TO FIX THAT.

BUT I MEAN, HONESTLY, I PROBABLY USE THAT POSSIBLY RAIN WATER, BUT I HAVE BARRELS.

I WOULD PROBABLY STORE THAT IN.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WOULD BE LEFT EXPOSED OR OPEN OR I THINK THERE'D BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO WATCH OUT FOR.

AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER, HERE JUST A SECOND.

I'VE GOT ONE LAST QUESTION, AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS ONE TO MR. ADAMS THAT THE CONCERN WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING INSECTICIDES THAT WOULD GET INTO THE DIRT AND.

AND YOU INDICATED YOU'RE GOING TO GO ORGANIC AND TRY TO USE BUG EATING BUGS.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS A SMALL SCALE FARM.

I MEAN, PRIMARILY THE LARGE SCALE FARMS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT MARKET.

I HAVE TO GO MORE SPECIALTY WITH MORE ORGANIC, MORE NATURAL TYPE.

AND THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF ACRES.

THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY JUST SELL IT ALL AT ONE TIME SO THEY CAN JUST SPRAY IT WITH CHEMICALS AND DO WHATEVER.

I'VE GOT TO BE MORE DISCERNING.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY NOT ECONOMICAL TO EVEN FARM THAT WAY ON THIS SCALE.

AND LAND IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE HERE THAN MOST OF THE FARMING WHERE FARMING IS DONE.

SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE TO.

BUT I THINK YOUR RESPONSE TO THE PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF THIS GENTLEMAN'S QUESTIONS AND THAT IT IS TRULY GOING TO BE A WORKABLE FARM, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S MANAGED TO ORGANICS, NOT PESTICIDES.

GOD BLESS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND COMMISSIONER O'HARA, I THINK YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS NOW.

MR. ADAMS, THIS IS COMMISSIONER O'HARA.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY MEETINGS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO FIND OUT WHAT CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE? I'VE ONLY TALKED TO ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I MENTIONED THAT I WAS PLANNING TO DO SOME FARMING AND HE DIDN'T SEEM CONCERNED, THAT'S THE ONLY INTERACTION I REALLY HAD ON THE SUBJECT.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN TALK TO MY NEIGHBORS BESIDES ONE OTHER TIME.

AND IT WAS THE ONES FURTHER DOWN.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THEM, TOO.

SO I DON'T SEE THEM THAT OFTEN.

CAUSED BY THE PROPERTY TODAY, AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW NICE HOMES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT PROPERTY AND THE CITY HAS INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT AREA, STREET WISE AND JUST THE OTHER UPGRADES.

AND SO I THINK HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HUGE FARM.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL.

ONE MAN OPERATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, AND FROM WHAT I'VE READ, ONE PERSON CAN ONLY PRETTY MUCH DO LIKE A QUARTER ACRE TO THE HALF ACRE.

THAT'S WHY I'M IN A FEW FIELD PLANNING FOR THE MAYBE DO ONE OR TWO CROPS A YEAR FOR THE LARGE PART OF THE FIELDS THAT I DON'T PLAN.

I JUST KIND OF GROW THE WHOLE TIME.

RIGHT, LIKE GRAIN CROPS, MAYBE LIKE WHEAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN LIKE I COVER FOR THE WINTER.

WELL, IT'S MY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOU.

I WOULD SAY COMING ON DOWN, BUT YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, SO GOOD LUCK.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WILL BRING YOU THE FOLLOW UP.

YES, SCOTT STAFF WOULD KEEP THIS FROM BEING A BUSINESS LIKE A JUNKYARD OR WE HAVE TO HEAD UP ON THOSE.

WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO BE A BUSINESS? A BUSINESS TO SELL ITEMS NOW TO OPERATE.

LOOKS LIKE TO ME YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO RUN A BUSINESS.

YES, HE WOULD NEED IT IF HE WANTS A FARMER'S MARKET TYPE OF RETAIL BUSINESS, HE WOULD NEED AN SUPPY, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER HEARING FOR THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, HIS USE IS UNDER THE FARM RANCH ORCHARD USE THAT'S CLASSIFIED IN THE GDC, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT.

IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

OK, SO I'VE GOT A LARGE GARDEN IN MY BACKYARD.

I COULD GO DOWN A OF OR A.

FROM MARLOTT.

IS THAT RIGHT, SCOTT? WELL, YOU CAN APPLY FOR ANYTHING YOU WANT, WHETHER IT'LL GET APPROVED OR NOT, IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER I KNOW I'VE GOT A LOT AND A LOT OF TIMES IN THIS GENTLEMAN CLEARLY APPEARS NOT TO BE DOING THIS.

BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME DOWN AND TRY FOR AN EGG FOR TAX EXEMPTION.

BUT THERE ARE RULES IN THE TAX.

YOU HAVE TO PLANT SO MUCH OF THIS.

I HAVE SO MANY ANIMALS.

SO THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM COMING DOWN AND TRYING TO PLAY THE SYSTEM.

THIS GENTLEMAN'S WANTING TO MAKE A LIVING OFF OF IT, BUT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BUSINESS.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN YOU CAN OPERATE A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, TOO.

WE'VE GOT RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THAT, SO IT'S PERFECTLY LEGIT AS FAR AS I SEE DISEASE CONCERNED.

OK.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? READY, I THROW IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION COMMISSION HERE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND I SEE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AT MOTION, BY COMMISSIONER MAEHARA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, HAD TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN FAVOR.

IT APPEARS TO BE UNANIMOUS.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS, MS.. I APPRECIATE IT.

I VOTED AGAINST THAT, SCOTT.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, DID YOU I VOTED AGAINST.

OH, YOU VOTED AGAINST IT? I DID NOT SEE THAT.

OK, SO THAT'S EIGHT TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER WALBURN WELBORN IN OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

I THOUGHT I LOOKED, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD.

ALL RIGHT.

IT STILL PASSES.

ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDE 16 DASH THIRTY FIVE FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN FOUR OR FIVE ZERO ONE NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.

ONE SECOND, OH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR POINTING OUT, UH, LET SEE, COMMISSIONER ROBBINSVILLE.

HERE IS THE REQUEST STATED.

AND HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION, THE LOCATION IS AT FORTY ONE ONE NORTH GARLAND AVENUE, THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY FIFTEEN POINT TWO ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PLANNED.

DEVELOPMENT 16.

DASCH THIRTY FIVE.

AND HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR AND PROPERTIES TO THE NORTHWEST ARE ZONED ISD 16 16 FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THERE IS ALSO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, 17 DASH FIFTY TWO FOR A MIXED USE, AND THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

YOU PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH EAST ACROSS NORTH GARLAND AVENUE IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND THERE IS A WATER PARK.

AND THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ON 16 DASH THIRTY FIVE, WHICH IS TRACKED FOR AND IT IS DESIGNATED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE AND IT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED FOR A MULTIFAMILY USE.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE PICTURES, THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE, THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND.

THE BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ALIGN THE ZONING TEXT AND THE BUILT CONDITION DUE TO A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION, AND HERE IS THE SUMMARY TABLE.

THE LEFT IS THE APPROVED SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE ORDINANCE, AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE AS BUILT CONDITIONS.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS SURFACE PARKING.

SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE SHOWS, TWO HUNDRED THREE SPACES.

AND THE BUILT CONDITION IS TWO HUNDRED FOUR, WHICH IS ON SITE NOW.

RECOVERED PARKING SPACE.

THERE'S TWO HUNDRED TWELVE AND SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND THE AS BUILT CONDITION IS TWO HUNDRED TWENTY ONE SPACES AND 13 OF THEM ARE TANNUM COVERED PARKING SPACES.

THE GOROD SPACES ARE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO AND SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND ONE HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN SPACES AND THE RECORD DRAWING.

OR TANDEM PARKING SPACES, THERE'S 40 TO 60.

THIRTY FIVE AND FIFTY FIVE OF THEM ARE THE SAME AS BUILT DRAWING.

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OR TOTAL PARKING SPACES, UM, THE SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE ORDINANCE SHOWS SIX HUNDRED NINE SPACES, AND ARSDALE IS SIX HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN.

MINIMUM ONE BEDROOM UNIT FLOOR AREA IS SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT SQUARE FEET, AND THAT'S BUILT SEVEN HUNDRED TWELVE SQUARE FEET.

THE LAST ONE IS THE OVERALL UNIT FLOOR AREA AVERAGE SHOWS NINE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO SQUARE FEET AND SIXTEEN THIRTY FIVE AND THE US BUILT IS NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS AS BUILT TODAY.

SO SHE WON.

THE SECOND SHE.

THERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH IS BUILT TODAY, AND IT IS CONFORM WITH THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES.

PART OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THREE OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

SHE DID MAIL OUT EXTENDED VACATION LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I COMMISSIONER JENKINS, GOOD EVENING, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE APPLICANT MAKES NO INTENDS TO MAKE NO CHANGES THE PHYSICAL ALTERATIONS TO THE SITE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

LANDSCAPE PLAN INDICATES A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE PRESENT, LIKE HURDLES, FOR INSTANCE, THAT SHOULD BE LOOKING, I GUESS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.

NOR DO WE KNOW IF THE INTENT IS STILL TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE PLAN TO CONTINUING TO BRING UP AND DEVELOP UP TO THE PLAN.

OR IS THIS JUST THE PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT AS IT EXISTS AND IT'LL BE UP TO THE NEXT ORDER TO TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, I GUESS? THIS IS THE PLAN, THAT IS HOW IT'S DEVELOPED TODAY ON SITE, AND IT SHOULD CONFORM WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH WAS APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO, YES, I'M KIND OF LIKING THIS TO REPLANT WHERE SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND REPLANT OF EASEMENTS, MOVE AND CHANGE, BECAUSE DURING CONSTRUCTION, THINGS DIDN'T GO EXACTLY AS PLANNED.

IS THIS KIND OF A REPEAT IN THAT RESPECT, DO YOU THINK? THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DUE TO THIS REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MORE INFORMATION, I THINK.

YEAH, I THINK THEY WANT TO GET IT CLEANED UP FOR ANY SALE.

AND I TAKE IT THE APPLICANT HERE, WOULD THAT BE MR. FISHER? MUREX.

UH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT.

A MOUSE IS WORKING.

THERE WE GO.

YOU TO BRING THEM ON.

THAT WOULD BE A.

CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, WE CAN AND WE CAN SEE CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN CANNISTERS NEXT, WANT TO SHARE WITH MASTERPLAN 20 TO ZERO ON MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE TWO ZERO ONE REPRESENTING JPI.

WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, BLAKE TAYLOR, A JPI MAY ALSO BE ON THERE HE IS IN THE EVENT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

THIS REQUEST IS OF THE THE THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY UNIT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS THAT I'M SURE MOST OR ALL OF YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS AT ARAPAHOE AND GARLAND AVENUE.

WE ARE ASKING TO ALIGN SOME OF THE ZONING TEXT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN DATA TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED AND BUILT TODAY.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS WITH YOU.

I DO HAVE A POWERPOINT SLIDES THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN SHARE.

GO AHEAD AND SCREEN.

AND YOU SEE IT.

NOT YET.

OH, OH, YES, YOU HAVE TO DO IT, YOU HAVE NEVER GO.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE DEVELOPMENT, FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THAT AND SOME OF OUR INTERIOR SHOTS IN CASE ANYBODY WONDERED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE INSIDE.

DOWN A UNIT.

LADY.

HERE ARE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS, WE ARE REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF GARAGE SPACES, THERE WERE SOME BUILDING AND FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD TO ADHERE TO, INCLUDING SOME FIREWALLS THAT REQUIRED SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE.

AND IT RESULTED IN A TOTAL OF FIVE LESS GARAGE SPACES BY FEWER SPACES.

SO WE ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER.

THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME RANDOM PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BASICALLY PARKING SPACES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGES.

THEY WERE UNDER OUR FOOTPRINT AND SO THEIR COVERED SPACES AND THEY WEREN'T ACCURATELY REFLECTED OR NOTED ON THE GRAPHIC PORTION OF OUR DETAILED PLANS.

SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO BASICALLY CATALOG THOSE.

THOSE ARE THOSE WERE THERE WHEN THEY WERE BUILT.

AND WE'RE JUST WANTING TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE AND THE ACTUAL NUMBER TODAY AT FIFTY FIVE TANDEM SPACES WHERE ALSO THERE WERE A FEW PARKING SPACES THAT WE'RE JUST NOT COUNTED IN OUR IN OUR SUMMARY TABLE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN UPDATE FROM SIX OH NINE TO SIX 14.

THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE SPACES ON SITE THAN WHAT WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

AND THERE ARE A FEW LESS COVERED SPACES TO 12 DOWN TO TWO OR EIGHT BECAUSE WE HAD TO COMPLY WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS FOR ADA PARKING SPACES.

SO WE LOST A TOTAL OF FOUR SPACES UNDER UNDER CARPORT.

HOWEVER, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COVERED TANDEM SPACES THAT ARE UNDER THE ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE, BUT UNDER COVER THAT WERE NOT COUNTED.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INCREASE YIELD YIELD ABOVE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED AS COVERED.

AND THEN THE LAST CHANGE ALSO HAS TO DO WITH BUILDING A FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AS WE GOT THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THAT IS THE LOWER THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA FOR ONE BEDROOMS FROM SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT TO SEVEN 12.

HOWEVER, THE OVERALL AVERAGE OF ALL OF OUR UNITS COMBINED, INCLUDING THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOM, IS AT NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX SQUARE FEET AND OUR REQUIRED NINE TWENTY TWO.

SO WE ARE STILL FOR FOUR SQUARE FEET OVER WHAT THE MINIMUM AVERAGE IS.

WE BELIEVE WE STILL NEED THE SPIRIT INTENT WITH THAT ADJUSTMENT, I BELIEVE.

LET'S STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS JUST REAL QUICK HERE, THAT WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THAT.

WE DID HAVE A DUMPSTER LOCATION CHANGE IN OUR FAR WHAT I CALL WESTERN END AND THE CIRCLE BLUE AREA THERE THAT THAT RESULTED IN A FEW CHANGES TO OUR PARKING SPACE ALLOCATION.

AND THE GREEN ARROWS REPRESENT WHERE OUR TRUCK UNDER PARKING GARAGE PARKING IS LOCATED, WHERE SOME OF THOSE WEREN'T JUST COUNTED.

THEY WERE THERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T COUNTED IN THE SUMMARY TABLE.

I THINK I'LL STOP THERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD.

AND NONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS? AND LET'S GIVE IT ANOTHER SECOND OR TWO AND.

YES, NOT.

NO QUESTIONS.

UH, TRACY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC ON ASYLUM? YOU DO NOT, SIR.

OK.

ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN.

SO IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSIONS, YOU'RE ON THE TRAIN OF EMOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER DALTON.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS.

OK, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSION CULTLIKE SAW THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WELBORN TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION HAS SUBMITTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE USE VOTE.

AND LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, OK? I THINK THEY'RE ALL YES, WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THE NEXT ITEM WITH A PARTNER TO THIS ONE, CONSIDER THE APPLICATION MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY USE PROPERTIES LOCATED FIVE FOUR FIVE ZERO ONE NORTH CAROLINA AVENUE.

WE'VE SEEN A PRESENTATION ON A DETAILED PLAN.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? ANY INPUT PUT BY THE APPLICANT? OPEN AGAIN FOR THE MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER PAUL.

LIKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE AND.

WE HAVE MOTION TO PROVE.

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WELBORN, HE WAS FIRST UP AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WELBORN TO APPROVE THE DETAILED PLAN.

SEE, NO DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.

AND I'M LOOKING MORE CLOSELY NOW, IF THAT LOOKS TO BE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FISHER.

THANK YOU, GERRI.

COMMISSIONERS, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS MISCELLANEOUS ITEM, IT IS A ZONING NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES BRIEFING AND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THAT, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONERS, I'M GOING TO.

SHARE SCREEN HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OK.

EVERYONE SEE THAT, OK? YES, OK, SO IS AT LEAST SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THE WE'VE BEEN MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND IMPROVEMENTS TOWARDS THE CITY'S ZONING NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES AND SO THAT THAT CONVERSATION HAS BEEN WELL UNDERWAY.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE BRIEFED ON WHERE WE ARE, WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED AND OFFER ANY INPUT YOU HAVE.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION BACK ON JULY 20TH TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND KIND OF MENTIONED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCEDURES, LIKE THE LETTERS AND AND WHAT WHAT WHAT NOT THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES OUT, THE SIGNS AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO THERE IS AS A RESULT OF THAT WORK SESSION, A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTED OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TWO PLAN COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS AND FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER.

AND THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MET ON SEPTEMBER 20 EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER TWENTY SECOND IN OCTOBER TO GO OVER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT, AS WELL AS THE ZODIAC SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED ON SUBJECT PROPERTIES AND THE

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REZONING CONSIDERATION.

AND ALSO HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE, WHICH WE'LL LOOK AT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

THE CITY COUNCIL JUST HAD ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON THIS ON NOVEMBER 16TH, WHERE WE BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS.

SO THIS IS A VERY, VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION THAT I JUST GAVE LAST WEEK.

BUT THEY CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL WANTED THE COMMISSION'S INPUT ON THIS.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO THE GOAL AND OUTCOME OF THIS PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE THE ZONING APPLICATION PROCEDURES WITH THE PUBLIC, AND IT PROVIDES A CLEARER AND MORE INFORMATIVE AND TRANSPARENT INFORMATION AS FAR AS ZONING CASES AND DEVELOPMENT GOES TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING TO NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO I'LL JUST REALLY GO RIGHT THROUGH THE LIST, THERE'S REALLY SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THIS.

LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE'S THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND YOU'RE ALL COPIED ON THOSE LETTERS THAT TRACY TITILLATES TRACY LISTENS ON EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, LETTING ME KNOW WHAT LETTERS WENT OUT AND WHAT DISTRICT SHE ATTACHES THOSE AND THOSE ARE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE.

SO LOOKING AT THE LETTERS, ALSO THE MAP THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LETTERS AND SITE SIGNAGE.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH IT HERE.

THESE WERE THE TAKEAWAYS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE FELT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL LETTERS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT.

CURRENTLY, THE TEMPLATES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THE COUNCIL LETTERS ARE A BIT SIMPLIFIED AND DO NOT INCLUDE A MAP.

I GUESS THE BACKGROUND OR INITIAL THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LETTER IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE SEEING IT IN THE COUNCIL LETTER IS KIND OF A TWO STEP NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS THE SECOND TIME THE CITIZENS SEEING IT, BUT IT MAY NOT BE IF THEY DISREGARDED THE FIRST ONE.

SO SO THIS WOULD MAKE THE TEMPLATES CONSISTENT BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL LETTERS.

AND THE COUNCIL LETTERS SHOULD INCLUDE IN THAT LETTER, SHOULD BE REORGANIZED TO PUT PLAIN ENGLISH ELEMENTS FURTHER UP.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS, IF YOU'VE NOTICED OUR NOTIFICATION LETTERS CURRENTLY, IT'S GOT THE SORT OF FORMAL AGENDA LANGUAGE TOWARDS THE TOFIG TYPE LANGUAGE THING, AMENDMENT TWO ZERO THREE DASH SUCH AND SUCH AND SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND ALL THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE.

AND THEN FURTHER DOWN WE HAVE A SECTION OF CODE.

IT STARTS WITH NOTE AND WE KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE REQUEST AS BEST AS WE CAN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO THIS WOULD KIND OF PUT THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE FURTHER OUT THE SUMMARIES, THE PLANS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A GAS STATION.

SO BE REAL SIMPLE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.

THE COMMITTEE WANTED FURTHER OUT AND HIGHLIGHTED ON THE LETTER FRONT SIDE ENGLISH WITH SOME SPANISH.

BUT THE BACK SIDE SHOULD INCLUDE SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE COMMENT FORM CONTAINED WITHIN ONE PAGE, RATHER THAN KIND OF BEING MIXED IN WITH THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION LETTER.

THE COMMENT FORMS SHOULD INCLUDE MULTILINGUAL HEADINGS.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

PHONE NUMBER FOR A STAFF MEMBER.

SHOULD THEY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE CLEARLY VISIBLE IN THE LETTER? THERE SHOULD BE A QR CODE OR LINK TO THE TECHNOLOGY.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT, ADDING TO WHY THE RECIPIENT IS RECEIVING THE LETTER.

WE OCCASIONALLY DO GET THAT QUESTION.

LIKE I TOLD THE COUNCIL LAST WEEK, WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS WHERE THE PERSON RECEIVING THE LETTER MAY NOT HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ZONE IN CASE.

BUT THEY JUST THEY'RE CALLING US TO ASK WHY THEY GOT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

DO THEY NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT OR IS IT OK TO TO TOSS IN THE TRASH OR RECYCLING? AND SO SO THIS THIS CLARIFIES THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING IT BECAUSE YOU'RE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.

FOR THE SONY CASE, USE THE MOST READABLE FONT ON THE MAP, ADD THE NOTIFICATION AREA BUFFER AND ADDRESS.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT A MAP HERE IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL WITH THE RECOMMENDED MAP, LOOKS LIKE, BUT ACTUALLY SHOWING THE AREA THAT WAS NOTIFIED ON THE MAP, AS WELL AS PROVIDING AN ADDRESS IF THERE IS NO ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO THE LOFT AND PROVIDE SOME SORT OF LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

MOVING ON TO THE SITE SCIENTISTS, THESE ARE THE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE PLACED OUT ON SUBJECT PROPERTIES THAT SAY ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED, THE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE'LL LOOK AT A PICTURE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

THEY WANTED AN EASILY MEMORIZED ONLINE LINK FOR THOSE DRIVING BY TO GO TO FOR THE MORE INFORMATION THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE SIGN STAY THE SAME, THE COLOR.

THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A FEW SLIDES.

BUT THEY RECOMMENDED A NEON GREEN COLOR WITH BLACK LETTERING AND THEY ALSO PREFERRED TO SIGNS FRONT.

IT'S JUST TO REALLY MAKE SURE THESE SIGNS ARE VISIBLE AND EASY TO SEE.

MOVING ON, TECHNOLOGY, REALLY WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO IS THEY WANT TO FOLLOW A VERY SIMPLE, SIMILAR IMPLEMENTATION FOR THIS INTERACTIVE SITE IDEA AS THE CITY OF PLANO DOES.

AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT THEIRS AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THE COMMITTEE REALLY FELT WE SHOULD TRY TO MODEL THAT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE, ALLOWING FOR MORE, ACTUALLY ALLOWING FOR ONLINE COMMENTS, NOT JUST RETURNING THE LETTER SENT TO MS., ADDING A GLOSSARY OF COMMON TERMS AND ZONING TERMS. THIS IS A DISCUSSION DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

FOLKS DON'T KNOW WHAT IS A DETAILED PLAN WAS COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS KIND OF PUTTING TOGETHER SOME SORT OF GLOSSARY THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE, SIGNING UP AVAILABLE FOR NOTIFICATIONS, ON HEARINGS AND WHATNOT FOR ZONING CASES, MAKING THAT A LITTLE EASIER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR FOLKS.

NOTIFICATION DISTANCE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THIS.

ULTIMATELY, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED KEEPING IT AT FOUR HUNDRED FEET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AS A REMINDER, STATE LAW ONLY REQUIRES TWO HUNDRED FOOT NOTIFICATIONS.

THE CITY OF GARLAND DOUBLES THAT AND THAT IS CODED INTO THE D.C.. BUT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE START, INCLUDING THE PHYSICAL ADDRESSES TO STATE LAW AND THE GDC REQUIRES THAT WE NOTIFY JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN FOUR HUNDRED FEET, TWO HUNDRED FEET FOR STATE LAW, FOUR, THE CITY OF GARLAN AS A LOCAL POLICY.

BUT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADD PHYSICAL ADDRESSES, NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESSES, WHICH SOMETIMES MAY BE OUT OF TOWN OR STATE.

SO THAT WAY IT WOULD BE NOTIFYING RENTERS AND BUSINESSES WHAT NOT AS WELL.

AND THEN AS FAR AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTREACH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY HERE AT THE CITY TO SEND OUT LETTERS JUST KIND OF DETAILING THE SIGN-UP INSTRUCTIONS, KIND OF A ONE TIME LETTER, BUT LETTING THEM KNOW HERE'S HOW YOU SIGN UP.

AND STAY STAY IN THE LOOP.

SO WE'LL JUST JUMP INTO THE LETTER HERE THAT THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED.

THIS IS NOT WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE CURRENT LETTERS ON THE EMAILS THAT ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED TEMPLATE.

MAJOR, MAJOR KUDOS GOES TO CHAIRMAN ROBERTS FOR REALLY PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND SIMPLIFYING AND JUST REALLY RETHINKING THIS WHOLE THING.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE HIS HARD WORK ON THIS.

IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, I'LL JUST KIND OF JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS ON HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE QR CODE AT THE TOP RIGHT IS IS A BIG CHANGE OR A BIG ADDITION.

THE READER CAN SCAN IT ON THEIR PHONE AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE WEBSITE WHERE THEY CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION, WHETHER IT'S ON THIS ZONING CASE OR OTHER ZONING.

THIS IS GOING ON IN THE CITY.

I CAN DO THAT.

AND WE'LL SEE IN A FEW MINUTES HERE.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD AN ONLINE COMMENT WHERE THEY CAN SAY IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE THE ZONING CASE AS WELL.

SO JUST MAKING IT SUPER EASY.

BIG, BOLD LETTERS NOTICE A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE GARLAN PLANNING COMMISSION, IF IT'S A CITY COUNCIL LETTER, WILL SAY NOTICE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE GUARDIAN CITY COUNCIL.

WE'VE GOT JUST A PLACEHOLDER HERE, THE CODED INFORMATION ONCE WE GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND AND WHATNOT, THIS WOULD COME OFF.

OF COURSE, CURRENTLY IT SAYS, DEAR, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY OWNER.

THIS WOULD BE NEW.

AND THAT KIND OF EXPANDS IT A LITTLE BIT.

DISREGARDING RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER.

YOU ARE RECEIVING THIS LETTER BECAUSE YOUR ADDRESS IS WITHIN 400 FEET OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE.

THAT'S NEW AS WELL AS THE WHY? WHY THE.

AND THEN HERE, THIS IS REALLY THAT WAY, LAYPERSON'S SUMMARY OF A ZONING CASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS CASE CASE, THE 20 DASH TWENTY SIX APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN ELECTRONIC TRONIC PROGRAM WILL SIGN ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THIS ADDRESS HERE.

SEE, INCLUDED IN THAT, THE MORE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE READ LIKE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO SUCH AND SUCH A DETAILED PLAN.

COMMA AND COUNCIL MADE A GOOD POINT WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER ESPECIALLY SAID WHAT I TOOK FROM THAT WAS.

LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE IS GOOD, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY SKIMP ON THE DETAILS IF THERE'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION, INCLUDING HERE INCLUDED.

SO IT'S GOOD TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY DON'T DON'T SKIMP ON IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT SHOULD BE IN HERE.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A.

GREAT, GREAT THING TO KEEP IN MIND, IT'S GOT THE MEETING DATE LOCATION ON HERE, THIS JUST AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, JUST A PLACEHOLDER, JUST SHOWING KIND OF WHAT THE TEMPLATE AND HOW IT'S ORGANIZED.

SO DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE CONTENT.

BUT THIS WOULD, OF COURSE, GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ONCE WE GET THERE.

WE MAY MAY REPHRASE THIS A TAD, BUT THEN HERE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THIS.

ADDED AGENDAS ARE POSTED AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

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THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS LETTING FOLKS KNOW IF YOU WANT THE REALLY MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE.

THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE POSTED HERE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SO THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN STAFF REPORT AND LOOK AT ALL THE DETAILED SITE PLANS, LANDSCAPE PLANS AND WHAT THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BECAUSE BY THAT POINT, THEY'RE READY.

THEY'RE READY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY JUST POSTED.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT ADDITION THERE.

THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE LETTERS.

AND THEN FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE AND GO TO THIS THIS LINK AT THE I BELIEVE IS INTENDED TO BE THE SAME AS THE QR CODE.

SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER ANOTHER SPOT TO HAVE THAT LINK ONLINE WHERE THEY GO FROM WHERE ZONING INFORMATION ABOUT MR. ROBERTS DID A GREAT JOB HERE.

JUST SIMPLY SEPARATING OUT A LOT OF THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION WE'VE GOT, BUT THIS IS ORGANIZED MUCH BETTER.

IT'S NOT ALL LUMPED INTO ONE LONG PARAGRAPH.

SO IT'S GOT THE PLANNER PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS.

IT'S GOT A SPANISH SENTENCE HERE.

IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION BUT PREFER TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE IN SPANISH AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN CONTACT MR. DE LA VEGA AT THIS NUMBER AND OR EMAIL ADDRESS.

AND THEN GOING ON TO THE COMMENT FORM THIS, THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD BE ITS OWN PAGE, THIS THIS IS REORGANIZE AND AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE THOSE ARE THE TWO OTHER LANGUAGES WE MENTIONED, MULTILINGUAL SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED HAVING AVAILABLE ON THESE.

SO YOU'VE GOT A REPEAT OF THE.

SUMMARY OF THE ZONING REQUEST AND THE MS. THE SAME EXCUSE ME, TRYING TO FIND CURSOR ACCIDENTALLY CLICK ON THE SAME SENTENCE OR SAME INFORMATION IN SPANISH AND THEN AGAIN IN VIETNAMESE.

AND THEN AND VERY BIG LETTERS CAN'T MISS IT, WHERE YOU CAN CHECK FOR AGAINST THE MS. GET THE SAME TRANSLATION FOR AND AGAINST THE SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE, ALL THE SAME INFORMATION BELOW THAT WE ASKED FOR YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, ET CETERA.

AND THEN GOING ON HERE, WE ADDED MORE SPACE WHERE THEY CAN WRITE.

CURRENTLY IT'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE FOUR LINES OR SO.

SOMETIMES FOLKS RUN OUT OF SPACE.

THIS GIVES THEM ONE LINES TO WRITE THE COLUMN COMMENTS IN WHICH SOMETIMES THEY NEED.

SO ATTACHED TO THE MAP OR THE LETTER, OF COURSE, WILL BE A MAP, FOR THE MOST PART, THE MAP IS THE SAME, BUT THE TWO ADDITIONS ARE, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, ADDING THE ACTUAL NOTIFICATION BUFFER.

THIS RED LINE INDICATES HOW FAR OUT THAT FORM OF GOES CURRENTLY IS JUST SORT OF A LITTLE TIP.

YOU CAN YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THE PARCELS THAT HAVE AN ADDRESS ON THE NUMBERS ON THEM THAT INDICATES WHO IS NOTIFIED, BUT NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.

AND THE CITIZENS ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

SO ADDING WHAT THE NOTIFICATION AREAS, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY COMMON QUESTION.

WHY DO I GET A LETTER LIKE MY NEIGHBOR OR THE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET OR VICE VERSA? AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME OF THEM GOT NOTIFIED AND THAT'S JUST HOW FAR OUT IT GOES.

AND SO THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED STICKING WITH THAT 40 FEET AND ALSO THE ADDRESS BEING ADDED ON THERE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER REZONING.

AND MOVING ON TO SIGNAGE, THIS IS WHAT OUR CURRENT SIGN LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AROUND TOWN.

AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED A BIT DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME, SO SOMETHING THAT REALLY POPS OUT, THEY THEY DIRECTED STAFF OR SOMETHING NEON AND JUST BIG AND BRIGHT.

SO WE GOT WITH OUR SIGN SHOP HERE AT THE CITY AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US.

SOME OF THE CONTENT IS INTENDED AS WELL.

THE COMMITTEE WANTED A WINK.

WHAT WILL LIKELY CHANGE THIS? THIS GOVERNMENT WILL LIKELY CHANGE THIS TO WHATEVER WHATEVER THE LINK IS FOR THE INTERACTIVE SITE, IT'LL LIKELY BE GARLAN PLANNING.

THAT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR TWO OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED THE OTHER NIGHT.

MAKE SURE TO HAVE THAT DOMAIN EXISTING.

SO PEOPLE GOING JUST KIND OF BUILD OFF THAT AND USE THAT.

IT'S GOT A PHONE NUMBER.

ISD GARLAN ADDED THE QR CODE AT THE BOTTOM.

RIGHT.

THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN I'LL GO, THIS HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS COUNCIL, SO I THINK WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS STOP SHARE AND THEN I'M GOING TO.

OVER HERE AND THEN I HAVE A BIG EFFORT TO REASSURE MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL GIVE IT A SHOT BETTER COUNCIL MEMBER.

THERE YOU GO.

EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT, OK.

OK, PERFECT.

SO THIS IS THE CITY OF PLATO'S WEBSITE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A JUMPING OFF PAGE.

WE CAN PROVIDE SOME GENERAL ZONING INFORMATION.

BUT REALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE LOVED WAS THIS LINK HERE.

SO YOU CLICK ON THIS THIS LINK AND THIS IS THE INTERACTIVE MAPPING PAGE.

IT'S A FEATURE.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE HERE, IT'S GOT ALL THE ACTIVE ZONING CASES OF THE CITY OF PLANO.

SO JUST CLICK ON ONE HERE JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ZOOMS AND IT'S GOT AN AERIAL HIGHLIGHTS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER REZONING CONSIDERATION OVER HERE.

IT'S GOT THE HEARING INFORMATION WHEN IT'S GOING TO PLAY COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, THE PLANNER OF INFORMATION OVER THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR HIM OR HER CONTACT INFORMATION? AND THEN THIS IS A REALLY NEAT FEATURE HERE.

THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY COMMENT ON THE CASE AND GO AHEAD AND RECORD YOUR YOUR POSITION.

SO HERE WE'VE GOT AND FAVOR OPPOSED, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, OFFERS A NEUTRAL OPTION.

BUT BUT ANOTHER THING THE CITY COUNCIL SAID THE OTHER NIGHT WAS THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE ON HERE AS WELL.

SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.

IN FACT, THIS PULLDOWN ALREADY HAS IN OUR KIND OF DRAFT WORKING ITS GOT IN FAVOR AND IT'S GOT THE SAME TRANSLATION IN SPANISH.

SO, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHERE FOLKS CAN PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS.

AGAIN, ALL THIS INFORMATION.

MAIN STREET.

NO.

AND THIS ONE'S GOT ONE.

THIS PERSON'S IN FAVOR OF THE QUEST AND LUBBOCK ISD COMMENTS.

BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CLICK ON RANDOM ONES HERE IF THERE'S ANYONE THERE, BUT.

OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL SEE SOME FOLKS KIND OF WRITE IN SOME COMMENTS, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE IDEA AND THE COMMITTEE REALLY LOVES THIS AND THE COUNCIL SEEMED VERY, VERY FAVORABLE OF IT AS WELL.

JUST KIND OF LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD SOME COMMENTS, INCLUDING TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PUT SOME SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE ON HERE AS WELL AND MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR THE FOLKS, BUT.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S REALLY THOSE ARE THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND VICE CHAIRMAN MAY ADD TO WHAT I STATED, THEY WERE MEMBERS OF THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF STOP THERE AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS OF DISCUSSION.

ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL KIND OF START OUT BY SAYING WE'RE THROWING A LOT AT YOU REAL QUICKLY AND ANY IDEAS, ANY COMMENTS ARE WELCOME.

YOU CAN MAKE THEM HERE, BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE FULL PRESENTATION.

AND IF YOU YOU KNOW, AFTER THANKSGIVING DINNER, IF YOU'RE SITTING DOWN JUST WANTING TO DIGEST FOOD, GO OVER THIS AND EMAIL ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE TO.

MR. GARY.

BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY THOUGHTS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEADS AND.

COMMISSIONER WELBORN.

I WATCHED THIS THE OTHER NIGHT, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I REALLY DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FOUR HUNDRED FEET, I LIKE TO SEE IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE TWO HUNDRED FEET ALREADY REQUIRED AND I THINK.

THEY'VE GOT A REAL GOOD JOB.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND.

COMMISSIONER OT'S, THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE, ALSO ATTACKED THE MR. GAGNON FOR ASKING THEM TO SERVE ON.

THE OTHER THING IS THE PROGRAM YOU SHOWED US AT PLANO HAS WILL WE BE ABLE TO USE THAT ALSO AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER? ABSOLUTELY, THIS WILL BE THIS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, THE CITY OF PLANO WEBSITE IS JUST ON THEIR MAIN WEBSITE.

ANYONE, ANY CITIZEN OR ANYONE WHATSOEVER CAN GO ON THERE AND LOOK AT IT OR IF THEY WISH TO COMMENT ON THE ZONE IN CASE THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL AND TO STAFF.

OR WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE RESPONSES THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

WE COLLECT ALL THE EMAILS, THE PHYSICAL LETTERS, WE GET FAXES.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, MAKE SURE WE COLLECT ANY COMMENTS IN THAT REPORT.

THOSE TEAMS WILL PRODUCE REAL DESIGN.

LOOKS REAL GOOD.

I DON'T HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THE THIS.

WHEN YOU DON'T MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE, DID THEY PUT THE SIGNS OUT OR PUT THOSE OUT STILL? GREAT QUESTION.

SO TRADITIONALLY STAFF HAS DONE IT.

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY SHIFTED THAT TASK OVER TO APPLICANTS BECAUSE WE NOTICED THAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO THAT.

THEY HAVE APPLICANTS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRINTING IT AND INSTALLING IT THEMSELVES.

WE WE GIVE THEM THE SIZE, THE LOOK OF IT.

AND SO WE STARTED DOING THAT MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THAT WENT WELL, FINE.

BUT WHEN THE PANDEMIC COVID, WE THOUGHT MAYBE AS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE SAKE, WE'LL JUST KIND OF TAKE THAT BACK ON OURSELVES.

SO WE'RE WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK TO STAFF DOING THAT, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SHIFT THAT BACK TO THAT.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING MORE SCIENCE TO FRONTAGES, WHAT, NOT JUST IN THE CITIES, NOT ABSORBING ALL THAT COST AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NICE.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE PUTTING IT BACK TO STAFF OR TO SOMEONE, BUT IT WAS GETTING PRETTY RELAXED OVER THERE, PUTTING THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS, PUT THEM INSIDE THE BUILDINGS.

AND REALLY THEY WEREN'T VISIBLE WAS I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING BACK THE WAY IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD DONE A GOOD JOB WITH.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ADDING ON TO THE COMMENT ABOUT SIGNS IS BEING IN THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY, IT'S

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JUST AN EXTRA STEP AND CITIES USUALLY DIRECT YOU TO ONE OR TWO PRINT SHOPS.

AND SO YOU END UP WITH SOME FAVORITISM THERE.

THEY CAN ONLY GO TO ONE OR TWO PRINT SHOPS TO GET IT DONE UP AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THEY'RE STUCK WITH SIGNS THAT THEY DON'T NEED WORDS.

AND SOMETIMES, LIKE COMMISSIONER WELBORN SAID, WELL, I'LL JUST PUT THEM OVER HERE IN THE CORNER.

AND SO I LIKE THE IDEA OR MAYBE WE HAVE A STOCK OF SCIENCE, MAYBE WE GET THEM TO PUT IT AT BITSTAMP CHECKS ON, MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY LOCATED.

BUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF SIGNS AND MAKE SURE WE GET THEM BACK, MAYBE WE CHARGE THEM IF THEY DISAPPEAR.

BOOM, THAT'S 50 BUCKS TO MR. GOODVIN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT EASY FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO PUT SOME WORK INTO IT, BUT IF WE GIVE THEM SIGNS THAT KNOW SCREAM AT THEM AND THEY MISS IT FIRST WHEN THEY CAN SEE THE SECOND ONE.

NOTIFICATIONS THAT ARE MORE READABLE AND FRIENDLY, SO ANY IDEAS YOU GUYS COME UP WITH COUNCILS LOOKING AT ANYTHING, ANY INPUT THEY CAN GET? CHAIRMAN ROBERTS.

YES.

ARE GIVING THE PUBLIC THIS INFORMATION.

IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER ON US ALSO BECAUSE THEY WILL KNOW MORE THAN THEY USUALLY DO.

THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW MORE THAN THEY USUALLY DO.

YES.

ALREADY.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, THAT YOUR BOOK WAS GOOD ON THAT COMMITTEE, TOO.

THEY WERE ALL GOOD, WEREN'T THEY? OH, YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT MANY OF THE IDEAS WERE FLOWING AND WE REALLY WERE PROUD OF THE WORK WE DID ON IT.

YEAH.

IN ARCHITECTURE, IT'S ALMOST WHAT WE CALL IT, DESIGN SHRED.

EVERYBODY TOSSING HAD IDEAS ABOUT SOMETHING.

SO, MY GOODNESS.

WELL, THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, MR. GEHRING, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO US AND, UH, AGAIN, SEND ANY COMMENTS AND THAT GOES TO THE PUBLIC TO, UH, UH, BACK TO MR. GAREN.

AND HE CAN PRESENT THEM TO COUNCIL FOR US.

AND REMEMBER, THERE'S NO IDEAS TO CREATE.

WELL, I COME UP WITH IDEAS TO CREATE YOU GUYS WANT.

SO ALREADY THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT, UH.

I WANT TO, UH, WISH EVERYBODY, THE COMMISSIONER'S STAFF, THE PUBLIC SAFE AND GOOD THANKSGIVING, BUT ESPECIALLY A SAFE ONE.

BE CAREFUL IN YOUR TRAVELS AND JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME.

AND UNTIL DECEMBER 14TH.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.