>> WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 22ND MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.
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AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE, TONIGHT LED BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.>> LET US PRAY. OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST COME TO YOU TODAY OH LORD, JUST THANKING YOU FOR THESE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US OH LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THROUGH ALL OF THIS SNOW AND ICE WITHOUT MANY PEOPLE GETTING HURT.
WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY AND JUST LEAD AND DIRECT US ON THE STUFF THAT'S COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT.
OH, LORD JUST GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE CITY TOO, IN CHRIST'S NAME, WE PRAY, AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD UNISON.
I KNOW ALL YOUR COMMISSIONERS AGREE IF YOU'VE LOOKED AROUND OUR CITY STAFF THIS LAST WEEK AND OUR COUNCIL HAVE ALL WORK THERE PROVERBIAL BUTTS OFF TO HELP CITIZENS ROUND HERE.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT BEING TELEVISED NOW AND RIGHT NOW THE COUNCIL IS DEALING WITH ALL OF THAT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE STAFF, NEIGHBORS AND ANYBODY WHO HELPED, ANYBODY ELSE THAT, THANK YOU AND BLESS YOU.
WE LIVE IN A GOOD PLACE HERE. THANK YOU.
SORRY, I JUST HAD TO SAY THEM.
>>ALL RIGHTY. APPLICANTS TONIGHT, YOU WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT YOUR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP.
[INAUDIBLE] WE DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME.
ANY SPEAKERS WHO WILL MAKE APPEAL, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO YOUR MICROPHONE FLOORS.
WE DO NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS.
WE'RE GOING TO START A MEETING WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WE'LL BE VOTING ON IN A SINGLE MOTION TO APPROVE.ANY COMMISSIONER CAN REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CAN REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE AN ISSUE TONIGHT.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HERE IT IS.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 8TH, 2021.
I SEE NOBODY WANTING IT REMOVED OR I SEE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DOLTON.
>> YES YOUR CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS POSTED.
>> I SAW A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, IT LEADS VOTE.
ALREADY ONTO OUR ZONING CASES.
WE'LL TRY TO DO THIS ON A MOTION FOR THE THREE PARTS OF EACH CASE, IF WE NEED TO SEPARATE AND WE'LL DO THAT LATER.
BUT I WILL READ ALL THREE CARTS AND THEN WE CAN START WITH THE PRESENTATION.
ZONING ITEM 2A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN REQUESTING
[2.a. Consideration of the application of Masterplan, requesting approval of an Amendment toPlanned Development (PD) District 14-23 for Downtown District Uses and Mixed Uses. Thisproperty is located at 111 and 217 South Garland Avenue; 1413 West Avenue B; and 1412and 1413 Rodando Drive. (District 2) (File Z 20-29 - Zoning).]
[2.b. Consideration of the application of Masterplan, requesting approval of a Specific UseProvision to allow a Drive-Through Service on a property zoned Planned Development (PD)District 14-23 for Downtown District Uses and Mixed Uses. This property is located at 111and 217 South Garland Avenue; 1413 West Avenue B; and 1412 and 1413 Rodando Drive.(District 2) (File Z 20-29 - Specific Use Provision)]
[2.c. Consideration of the application of Masterplan, requesting approval of a Detail Plan forMulti-Family (MF) Uses on a property zoned Planned Development (PD) 14-23 forDowntown Uses. This property is located at 111 and 217 South Garland Avenue; 1413 WestAvenue B; and 1412 and 1413 Rodando Drive. (District 2) (File Z 20-29 - Detail Plan)]
APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PD 14-23 FOR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT USES AND MIXED USES.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1, 1, 1, AND 2, 1, 7 SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE, 1, 4, 1, 3 WEST AVENUE B, AND 1, 4, 2, 1 AND 1, 4, 1, 3 WELL DADO DRIVE.
ITEM 2B IS GOOD CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATIONS OF MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, TO ALLOW FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTIES ON PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD 14-23, SAME ADDRESSES.
ITEM 2C, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY USES ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD 14-23 FOR DOWNTOWN USES.
AND MS. WAUWEI GOT A PRESENTATION FOR US.
>> THERE WE GO. GREAT. THANK YOU.
YES. THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT,
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US PROVISION AND DETAILED PLAN.THESE ARE THE FACTS OF THE CASE.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.65 ACRES IN TOTAL.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION.
THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY THERE WHERE THE STAR IS ON THE MAP.
THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION MAP, THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN TEAL, IN HERE.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS PD 14 23, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE P-V 14-23, WITH SOME VERY SMALL DEVIATIONS PROPOSED.
THE SQ P IS FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE WINDOW WHICH IS ASSOCIATED AS A CURRENT ELEMENT OF THE EXISTING BANK, THEY REQUEST WOULD MAKE CONTINUED USE OF AN EXISTING TELLER WINDOW.
THE SITE IS A OLD RESTAURANT THAT IS NOT OCCUPIED CURRENTLY, THAT IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, THERE IS A EXISTING BANK WITH PARKING ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY ABANDONED DRIVE-THROUGH FOR THE BANK USE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY OR PARKING LOT IS ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
SURROUNDING THE AREA IS A VARIETY OF ZONING.
GENERALLY, TO THE EAST, THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED DOWNTOWN WITH COMMUNITY RETAIL, OFFICES, SCHOOLS, AND PLACE OF WORSHIP USES.
TO THE NORTH IS ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL.
ALSO THERE'S THE CHURCH, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
TO THE WEST IS ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY SF-7, AND IMPROVED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH AS A VARIETY OF ZONING WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN MAP FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN IS FOR URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.
URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS OFFER A LOCATION FOR HIGHER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL USES, PARKS, TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, AND COMMUNITY AMENITIES WOULD BE NEARBY.
THERE SHOULD BE ALSO SHOPPING AND RESTAURANTS, AND THAT'S CHARACTERISTIC OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THE PROPOSED PD DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY ENVISION GARLAND PLAN OFFERING A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS NON-RESIDENTIAL, USES.
FURTHER THE TRANSIT SERVICES NEARBY, THE BUS SERVICE RUNS ALONG THE ADJACENT STREETS WHILE THE DART RAIL STATION ISN'T TOO FAR OFF, IT'S ABOUT A MILE THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN URBAN AREA.
THESE ARE PHOTOS AT THE SITE IS WAS ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE PHOTO TO THE UPPER LEFT SHOWS THE ABANDONED RESTAURANT AND THE CHASE BUILDING FURTHER BACK IN THE PHOTOGRAPH HERE.
TO THE EAST IS A CHURCH AND SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT AND THEN TO THE WEST, IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND WE'LL JUST SHOW YOU WHAT'S ON THE PLAN HERE.
THIS IS THE CHASE BANK BUILDING.
ITS PARKING LOT WOULD BE RECONFIGURED TO ALLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.
ALONG WILSON IN FRONT OF THE BANK, THERE WOULD BE ON STREET PARKING.
HOWEVER, ON-STREET PARKING WOULD NOT BE PROVIDED ALONG GARLAND AVENUE.
THEN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL ALONG AVENUE B, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ON-STREET PARKING EITHER.
HOWEVER, THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR A ROUGH PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE STREET ALONG THAT TYPE OF STREET.
SO THERE'S THE RALPH PARKING AND CIRCULATION AND THEN BUILDING 1 FOR THE APARTMENTS IS HERE.
THIS IS BUILDING 2 AND THEN BUILDING 3.
ALONG REDONDO WOULD BE A ROW OF PARKING ALONG THE STREET AND THEN THE BUILDING.
THERE ALONG THE WEST PORTION OF WILSON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BUILDING THREE WOULD BE ON-STREET PARKING AS WELL.
TO CIRCULATE ONTO THE SITE, THERE WOULD BE THIS [INAUDIBLE] HERE FROM WILSON WHICH PROVIDES DRIVE ACCESS THROUGH THE SITE TO AN INTERNAL COURT OF PARKING AND DOWN THROUGH THE SITE TO AVENUE B.
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YOU CAN ALSO REACH GARLAND AVENUE WITH CIRCULATION THROUGH THE EXISTING AND TO BE RENOVATED CHASE BANK PARKING LOT.THERE'S REFUSE AND CLOSURE AND OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT SHOWING UP ON THIS SITE.
THERE'S A POOL AND AMENITY AREA IN THE COURTYARD OF BUILDING 1 AND CLUBHOUSE WITHIN THE BUILDING INCLUDING FITNESS CENTER AND CLUBHOUSE ROOM.
SO ALL OF THAT, THE AMERICANS MEET THE GVC REQUIREMENTS.
THIS SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THE LANDSCAPING MEETS THE GDC ALONG GARLAND AVENUE.
NOW AT THIS STAGE ABOUT TO FILL IN SOME BACKGROUND, YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE STAFF REPORT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A NUMBER OF DEVIATIONS.
THE REASON FOR THOSE DEVIATIONS IS THAT THE SITE HAS SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHALLENGES, ONE OF WHICH HAS A GREAT CHANGE FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ABOUT 6-7 FEET.
AS A RESULT THEN, IN THIS AREA THE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD NOT BE SET AT GRADE.
HOWEVER, THE UNITS WOULD HAVE FRONTAGE ALONG THAT STREET EDGE AND THERE WOULD BE LANDSCAPING PLACED BETWEEN THE UNITS AND THE GRADE.
MANY OF THE UNITS DO MEET THE INTENT AND PURPOSE HAVE BEEN URBANIZED SETTING FOR THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
ANOTHER FACTOR THAT INFLUENCES DEVIATIONS FROM THE STANDARDS IS THAT ALONG AVENUE B, THERE IS A HIGH POWER TENSION LINES HAVE POWER ELECTRICAL LINES THAT CANNOT BE PLACED UNDERGROUND, ALTHOUGH THE OTHER LINES ON THE SITE CAN BE.
BUT BECAUSE THESE LINES CAN'T BE PLACED UNDERGROUND, THEN LARGE CANOPY TREES NEED TO BE REPLACED WITH SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES, WHICH IS ALLOWED, EXCEPT THAT THERE ARE OTHER UTILITIES IN THIS AREA ALONG AVENUE B, THAT REQUIRES SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLACEMENT OF TREASON IN LANDSCAPING MATERIALS.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR, SAY, THE LARGE CANOPY TREES AS THAT HIGH WIRES AND UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT LIMIT THE ABILITY TO PLACE SUCH IN THAT AREA.
THIS DOES SHOW THE LANDSCAPING.
ANOTHER DEVIATION THAT'S PROPOSED IS THAT NUMBER OF TREES PER ROW OF PARKING, AND THIS ALLOWS LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING ON THE SITE, ALTHOUGH NOT MEETING THE LANDSCAPING.
ANOTHER ITEM OVER THE SURFACE PARKING IN THE COURTYARD, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR PARKING CANOPIES.
HOWEVER, NOT ALL THE REQUIRED TREES ARE BEING PROVIDED.
AGAIN, THERE'S A TRADE OFF IN TERMS OF THE BALANCE OF DO WE PROVIDE THE CANOPIES VERSUS DO WE PROVIDE THE SHADE TREES; AND THEY'VE ELECTED A PROPOSAL OR DEVELOPMENT WITH CANOPY PARKING.
THE PARKING DOES MEET THE REQUIRED CORE REQUIREMENTS FOR 50 PERCENT COVERED PARKING THERE.
WE'LL MOVE ON THEN. THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE AMENITIES.
I'LL GO BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE PLANNER, THERE'S SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED, BUT THIS JUST SHOWS THE BENCHES, THE COLORED PAPERS, AND SOME OF THE OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
I'M GOING BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, I LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE AT THE CORNER OF AVENUE B IN GARLAND AVENUE, WILL BE A PARK-LIKE SETTING WITH A BOSQUE OF TREES AND BENCHES WHERE PEOPLE CAN RELAX AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF THEIR BUSY DAYS, THERE'S A WALL RIGHT HERE THAT I'M POINTING OUT.
YOU'LL SEE THIS ON THE ELEVATIONS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIGHTED WALL WITH SOFT LIGHTING TO ADD SOME AMBIENCE TO THAT LITTLE POCKET PARK THERE.
THIS IS THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE POCKET PARK WILL BE LOCATED.
THIS RATHER DARK LOOKING BOX, IS A LIGHTING FEATURE THAT WILL PROVIDE SOFT LIGHTING AS AN AMENITY AND A VISUAL ATTRACTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE TOP ELEVATION IS THE EAST ELEVATION ALONG GARLAND AVENUE,
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THE MIDDLE ELEVATION IS THE ELEVATION FACING TOWARDS AVENUE B, YEAH.THEN THIS BOTTOM ELEVATION AS THE INTERIOR ELEVATION.
HERE'S THE COURTYARD ELEVATIONS.
THIS IS THE BUILDING 2 WHICH IS ON THE CORNER TOWARDS REDONDO AND AVENUE B.
SO HERE WE HAVE THIS AVENUE B THIS SIDE, THIS IS REDONDO.
THE OTHERS WERE INTERIOR OR SECTIONS RATHER.
THEN THIS IS THE NORTHWEST ELEVATIONS OF BUILDING 3.
THE SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM IS THE WEST.
EXCUSE ME, THIS IS THE WILSON FACING AND THE BOTTOM IS THE WEST FACING.
AGAIN, THE OTHER ELEVATIONS ARE THE INTERIOR OR THE SECTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DEVIATE FROM THE CLADDING OF A PORTION OF THE POOLS THOUGH THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE FOR THE PARKING CANOPIES.
THE ELEVATIONS ARE SHOWING CLADDING ON THE EXTERIOR SUPPORT POOLS, BUT NOT ON THE MIDDLE SUPPORT POLES.
IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE HAVE THE SUMMARY OF THE DEVIATIONS.
THEY DO HAVE EFFICIENCY UNITS AND THE LIMITATION IS 10 PERCENT OF ALL THE UNITS MUST BE EFFICIENCY.
SO MAXIMUM OF 19 ALLOWED, THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO ADDITIONAL AND THE PRIMARY BUILDING ENTRANCE IS TO BE LOCATED AT THE STREET FRONTAGE.
THAT'S FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES AND LEASING BUILDING ON THE MULTIFAMILY.
THE LEASING LOBBY IS SHOWN ON THE CORNER OF BUILDING 1 FACING TOWARDS THE DRIVEWAY FROM AVENUE B.
THE BANK BUILDING WILL MAINTAIN ITS DOORS AS EXISTING AS PROPOSED IN THIS APPLICATION.
PARKING HAS BEEN REDUCED AND PD 1423 ESTABLISHED TO REACH OUT OF 1.3 PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PARKING STUDY TO ALLOW FOR REDUCTION IN PARKING, SUPPORTING A 1.1 PARKING SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT.
STREETSCAPE IN INCLUDES A DOUBLE ROW OF TREES AND TREE WELL SIDEWALKS, PLANTERS IN FRONT DOOR WITH PATIO.
AVENUE B, WILSON STREET, AND REDONDO DRIVE HAVE VARIATIONS AND DEVIATIONS OF THIS STANDARD, AS WAS POINTED OUT IN THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION, WITH A SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN.
COVERED PARKING, WE WENT OVER THAT ONE.
PARKING LOT TREES, WE REVIEWED THAT ONE AS WELL AS THE CARPORT COLUMN CLADDING.
THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AS A REMINDER, WAS FOR THE TELLER WINDOW THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR THE PROVISION TO BE AN EFFECT FOR 10 YEARS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT, THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN, AND THERE WERE 113 NOTIFICATION LETTERS SENT.
WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES AND TECHNICALLY THOSE WERE FROM THE SAME ADDRESS, SAME PERSON.
THAT SINGLE RESPONSE WAS IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT AND IT WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
THERE WERE NO OTHERS RECEIVED. THANK YOU.
TRACY, I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER RHODES THEN COMMISSIONER MOUNT.
>> PARKING, THE ALLOTMENT OF PARKING ON THE STREET IS THAT CALCULATED INTO THE PARKING FOR THE INTERIOR PROPERTY?
>> RIGHT. FOR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT THAT IS ALLOCATED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, IT'S INCLUDED WITH THE PROJECT.
>> SO THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THERE AVAILABLE BUT LIKELY WILL HAVE MAYBE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE LIVE IN ANY APARTMENT.
WHERE ARE THESE EXTRA CARS GOING TO PARK?
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>> RIGHT. SO BASED ON THEIR PARKING ANALYSIS, THE APPLICANTS FEELS THAT THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH PARKING ON-SITE TO PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THEIR RESIDENCE.
>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. THEN A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS TO CLEAN THAT WHOLE THING OUT AND THEN ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO TO BUILD IT.
THAT'S MAYBE FOUR YEARS OFF THE SUP.
SO THEY ONLY HAVE SIX YEARS LEFT.
>> I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THAT QUESTION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK MR. CHAIRMAN I'LL ADD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
THE SUP IS SPECIFICALLY THERE FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN ON THIS MORE BUT I BELIEVE IT'S FOR THE BANK. THE BANK TO USE.
IT'S NOT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS JUST FOR THAT ONE ASPECT.
PERHAPS AN APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON THE PLANS OF THAT BUILDING.
THAT'S WHERE THINGS JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLARIFIED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AT KARA, LOOK AT THIS PLAN.
I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON BUILDING ONE.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO BE RETAIL? IS IT ALL ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS IT JUST A PORTION OF IT OR IS IT THE PORTION FACING THE STREET?
>> I SEE. SO BUILDING 1 IS PART OF THE APARTMENTS ON BUILDINGS ALL OF THAT EXCEPT THE LEASING SPACE WOULD BE FOR DWELLING UNITS OR OF COURSE, THE AMENITY AREAS.
>> OKAY. SO IT'S JUST ONE CORNER BASICALLY, A QUANTITATIVE ONE BUILDING IS THE RETAIL PORTION OF IT.
>> I GUESS WE COULD CONSIDER THE LEASING PORTION OF THE BUILDING HAS A RETAIL ELEMENT. YEAH.
>> IT'S GOOD FOR US FOR THE BANK GOING TO REMAIN RETAIL?
THE 2014 PLAN SHOWED THAT THERE IS A DENSITY ORIGINALLY PLAN FOR THIS AT 70 UNITS PER ACRE, I BELIEVE ARE 70 PER ACRE AND WE'RE AT 40 FOR THIS PLAN AND JUST ALL RATIFICATION.
HOW DID THE PLANS CHANGE TO GET TO THAT POINT OF WHERE WE ARE NOW?
>> OKAY. THERE WERE TWO PROPOSED TO DETAIL ART CONCEPT PLANS IN LATE 2014 PROJECT.
THE HIGHER DENSITY OF 70 UNITS PER ACRE WE HAD MORE UNITS IN THE BANK BUILDING COMPARED TO THIS PROPOSAL.
>> OKAY. THE BANK IN IT IS AS I SAW THAT THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE IS IT 40 UNITS AND THE BANK BUILDING, IS THAT CORRECT? PLUS 32?
>> OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS IS.
LOOKING AT THE COURTYARD AMENITY AREA, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME A SCREENING WALL OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT MAKES IT WHERE THERE'S A VISUAL BARRIER FROM PHYSIOS GOING TO BE DRIVEWAY THEY CAN DRIVE BETWEEN WHERE CARS CAN DRIVE BETWEEN CHASE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING 1, CORRECT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ROW OF VEGETATION OR SCREENING WALL OR IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE A PARABOLA THAT HAS A WALL ON IT AND THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THAT.
>> YEAH. WE MIGHT WANT THE APPLICANT TO EXPAND ON THAT.
THERE WILL BE TREES AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE AMENITY AREA AND A POOL.
SET IT AT A LOWER ELEVATION SO THE CANOPY OF THE TREE WOULD PROVIDE SOME SCREENING.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WELDER.
>> ONLY A DUMPSTER WHEN YOU SHOW AWAY, GOES AWAY.
>> WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING, IS THAT RIGHT WHAT WE DESIGNED AT THE CORNER IS THAT COMING DOWN THE RESTAURANT?
>> YES, SIR THE RESTAURANT BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
>> THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THAT EXISTING POOL SIGN ON THIS DRAWING.
THE DUMPSTER LOCATION IS RIGHT IN HERE.
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IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE WEST.IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE INTERVENING LANDSCAPING AND PARKING.
THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH SCREENS IT.
THEN THE VISIBILITY FROM BERLIN WOULD NOT BE SEEN EITHER. THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? COMMISSIONER RHODES.
>> THEY HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH PROPOSED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
HAS THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT SOMEHOW RESTRICTING THE ABILITY FOR CITIZENS TO USE THAT AS A CUT-THROUGH.
I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE WHEN THE BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING WAS CONVERTED TO APARTMENTS, THEY GOT A HOLD OF HIGHWAY OR SEVENTH STREET, AND YOU CAN CUT RIGHT THROUGH THAT OLD THING.
I'M JUST WONDERING. I'M CURIOUS IF THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> YES, WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT THE IDEA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UP IN THE CORNER THERE, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, ARE YOU UNMUTED?
>> HAPPENS EVERY NOW AND THEN. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
I'VE NOTICED MS. KARA, THAT ON THE OVERLAY THERE ARE A TOTAL OF MAYBE EIGHT SPACES FOR HANDICAP PARKING.
MOST OF THESE SPACES WERE LOCATED AT THE PERIPHERY OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WITH MAYBE TOO CLOSE TO THE FACE TO BUILDING.
IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT THESE PLACES ARE WHERE THEY ARE? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
>> SURE. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE LOCATIONS IN THE DESIGNATED HANDICAP UNITS.
DO WE KNOW WHERE THE ELEVATORS ARE FOR ACCESS OR ARE THEY THE ON THE ON THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE?
>> THEY'RE NOT ON THE MAPS THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT WE DO REVIEW THE FLOOR PLANS.
THE ELEVATORS ARE OFF THE HALLWAYS.
THEY AREN'T JUST SHOWING WHERE I'M JUST I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PARKING.
I'LL SAVE MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT ANY? LET'S BRING THE APPLICANT ON AND THAT WOULD BE A MAXWELL FISHER AND HE'S ALSO ENGINEER HERE AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
>> MAXWELL FISHER WITH MASTER PLAN 2201 MAIN STREET DALLAS TEXAS 75201.
WE ALSO HAVE MARK DRUM AND BRANDON BOWEN WITH GROUND FLOOR, WITH US DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THEN JOSH MILLS, OF KFM, WHO IS OUR PROJECT ENGINEER.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO SHARE.
>> CAN YOU ALL SEE THE DRAPER GARLAND TITLE PAGE?
>> THE GROUND FLOOR TEAM HAS OVER 100 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
THEY FOCUS ON BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE PROJECTS.
A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT I'LL MENTION QUICKLY IS ST. ELMO AND SOUTH AUSTIN, WHICH IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF A RETAIL MARKET THAT ALSO INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE.
KESSLER IS IN DALLAS, IN A CLIFF AREA, AND IT'S AN AWARD WINNING TOWNHOUSE AND LUXURY MID-RISE DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THERE'S ONE OF THE WARD AND JUST SHOWS THAT THESE GUYS DO PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO WHAT THEY DO AND THEIR DESIGN THAT BUILDS LONG-TERM VALUE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
EVERYONE ON HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE DOWNTOWN LANDMARKS, BUT THIS GIVES YOU A LIST IN ORIENTATION.
I THINK WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL IS OVER THE YEARS WE'VE SEEN THE REDEVELOPMENT AND
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MIXED-USE WITH ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL ADDED TO THE DOWNTOWN IN THE EASTERN OR NORTH EASTERN QUADRANT.THEN WITH THE CENTRAL QUADRANT WITH BANK OF AMERICA, REDEVELOPMENT NEAR THE MAIN STREET, MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE WESTERN END.
THIS WOULD BE A WESTERN END CATALYST THAT WE THINK THAT WILL SPUR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN ALSO A SUPPORT RETAIL AN ADDITIONAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AS THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE DATED, IT'S VACANT. YOU HEARD IT ALL.
WYATT CAFETERIA AND THEN THE CHASE BUILDING, WHICH HAS A BANK IN FIRST FLOOR, BUT THEN THE REST OF THE BUILDING FLOORS TWO THROUGH FIVE ARE VACANT AND IS IN SERIOUS NEED OF REINVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S A RENDERING AND OBLIQUE VIEW LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM AVENUE B AND GARLAND AVENUE.
THIS GIVES YOU A GOOD VANTAGE POINT.
I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS BASICALLY.
HERE, I DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING EVERYTHING.
I'LL TRY NOT TO BELABOR, BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE AS YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE URBAN DISTRICT OR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND THAT WE'RE PULLING OUR BUILDING IS AS FAR OUT AS WE CAN TOWARDS THE STRAIGHT WHERE WE CAN.
WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH UTILITIES, BUT I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A MEET IN THE SPYRIDON, SANFORD PROVIDING AN URBAN DEVELOPMENT AS BEST WE CAN.
OUR TOWER FEATURE THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE OFF OF AVENUE B, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR CLUB HOUSE AND MAYBE A LITTLE HARD TO FIND, BUT THAT SHOWS YOU THE FRONT ENTRY OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE A NICE PUBLIC PLAZA PLANNED IN THE HARD CORNER.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRAPER SIGN THERE AND THAT'LL BE A LIT WALL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THIS PHOTO LATER ON.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME ON THIS SITE PLAN, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, I LOOK AT THE LAST SITE PLANS THAT I THOUGHT WAS PARTICULARLY IMPRESSIVE IS THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A STRUCTURED PARKING DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF WHERE EVERY BUILDING IS OUT ON THE STREET AND ALL YOUR PARKING IS IN A STRUCTURE.
THIS IS ALL SURFACE PART, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF ALL THE STREET PARKING WE DON'T HAVE ANY LARGE PARKING FIELDS AND WE DON'T HAVE PARKING FIELDS THAT ARE COMBATING OR TAKING IT AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE AN URBAN STREET FRONT DESIGN.
ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE OUT TO THE STREET.
OUR PARKING THAT WE DO HAVE IS IN CONVENIENT LOGICAL PLACES AND OUR LARGEST PARKING FIELD IS ACTUALLY BLOCKED BY THE BUILDINGS FROM THE STREET.
I THINK THIS WAS REALLY WELL-DESIGNED CONSIDERING IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL STRUCTURED PARKING WRAP DEAL.
NOT TO MENTION, WE ALSO HAVE 28 TUCK UNDER GARAGES.
WE HAVE CANOPY CAR PORTS AND 28 TUCK UNDER GARAGE JUST TO MEET THE MINIMUM COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT.
THERE ARE WALK-UP UNITS THAT ARE ON SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AND WILSON STREET.
IT WILL PROVIDE THAT FEEL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CONNECTION TO THE STREET, WHERE THEY CAN WALK OUT OF THEIR UNITS TO ACCESS TO PUBLIC SIDEWALK, TO GO TO THEIR NEAREST RESTAURANT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
I WANT TO TALK A BIT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL SUBMARKET AND WHO WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET IN THIS CASE.
WE HAVE THE 3, 3-STORY BUILDINGS, A 155-MARKET RATE UNITS.
THESE WILL BE ALL MARKET RATE.
THEY'RE NOT AFFORDABLE, THEY'RE NOT SUBSIDIZED AT ALL.
PHASE 2 WOULD BE FLOORS, TWO THROUGH FIVE OF THE CHASE BUILDING, AND THAT WOULD BE 30 RESIDENTIAL LOFTS.
TWO-THIRDS OF THE UNITS ARE ALL ONE ONE BEDROOM.
WE'RE CATERING TO YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, WE'RE CATERING TWO EMPLOYEES OF THE NEW HOSPITAL AND THEN SUPPORT STAFFS, NURSES, TEACHERS, POLICE AND FIREMEN.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A COURTESY OFFICER PROGRAM WHERE WE ALLOW AN OFFICER TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY EITHER FOR FREE OR FOR A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION TO OBVIOUSLY HELP WITH POLICING AND KEEPING OUR PROPERTY AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
WE'LL HAVE AN ACTIVE ONSITE MANAGER AND JUST THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE STREET AT GREATER HEIGHTS JUST PROVIDES THAT NATURAL POLICING ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TO KEEP THE AREA SAFE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A CATALYST FOR WEST DOWNTOWN.
PHASING IS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO UNDERSTAND SO I PUT IT IN A CHART FORM.
ESSENTIALLY WITH PHASE 1, WE'RE DEALING A 155 UNITS.. WE'LL HAVE THREE BUILDINGS, WILL HAVE A CLUBHOUSE, FITNESS COURTYARD WITH POOL AND A POCKET PARK THAT'S IN AT AROUND BUILDING 1.
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THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BANK WILL BE RENOVATED.THERE IS A DRIVE THROUGH SUP REQUESTS, BUT IT'S ONLY FOR AN [NOISE] ATM.
THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ACTIVE TELLER, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH TRAFFIC.
JUST THINK OF YOUR LOCAL BANK OF AMERICA OR WHATEVER BANK YOU USE AND YOU HAVE SOME ATM DRIVE UP, BUT IT'S A MUCH LOWER QUEUING GENERATION THAT YOU HAVE YOUR TYPICAL BANK DRIVE THROUGH.
ALL STREET WORK WILL BE DONE, INCLUDING THE IMPROVEMENT OF REDONDO WITH PHASE 1.
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WITH PHASE 1.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE NOT DOING WITH PHASE 1 ARE THE APARTMENTS ON FLOORS TWO THROUGH FIVE OF THE CHASE BUILDING AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO IT NOW.
IT'S THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME FUNDING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR BECAUSE BASICALLY HISTORIC BUILDINGS CAN RECEIVE GRANTS OR FUNDS AND THAT WILL HELP US WITH REMODELING THAT BUILDING.
BECAUSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH ANY ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT, WE HAVE ASBESTOS AND SOME OTHER THINGS AND SOME OTHER CHALLENGES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PROGRAM IN THIS SCOPE.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT MIGHT BE WITH PHASE 2 IS WE REALLY SEE A VISION FOR A COFFEE SHOP OR A CAFE.
I GUESS I CALL IT A WORKSTATION OR WORK CAFE.
FOR THE FRONT, ROUGHLY 2,000, 2,500 SQUARE FEET THAT FACES GARLAND AVENUE.
IF THE BANK EVER GOES AWAY, WE'D LIKE TO REPURPOSE THAT TO HAVE COFFEE ON THE FRONT OR CAFE ON THE FRONT.
THE BACK A HALF OR THE BALANCE WOULD BE FOR SOME OTHER USE.
IT COULD EVEN BE AN ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR OUR OVERALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING REDUCTION TO BASICALLY 1.1 FOR RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, IT'S TWO-THIRDS ONE BEDROOM.
WE'RE NOT LOADING UP A TON OF BEDROOMS HERE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES PER UNIT.
WE ALSO ASKING FOR A REDUCTION ON THE CHASE PROPERTY AND THAT WE HAVE COMPLIMENTARY PEAK HOURS.
IN THE PACHECO KOCH PARKING DEMAND ANALYSIS, THAT BASICALLY SHOWS THAT WHEN THE RESIDENCES ON FLOORS TWO, THREE, WHEN PEOPLE WERE AT WORK, WE HAVE OF COURSE, A LOWER NUMBER PEOPLE OCCUPYING PARKING SPACES.
IT GOES DOWN INTO THE 20-25 RANGE.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A PEAK PARKING DEMAND FOR THE BANK.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE AT THE BANK, THE EMPLOYEES ARE AT THE BANK, WE HAVE A FEW VISITORS AT THE BANK, THAT'S WHEN THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS ACTUALLY MOST VACANT.
IT'S A COMPLIMENTARY SITUATION TO WHERE WE WILL NEVER HAVE MORE THAN ABOUT 33 OR 34 PARKING SPACE IS OCCUPIED WHEN WE HAVE A SUPPLY OF 37, AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT.
WE HAVE THE PARKING, OF COURSE, IN PHASE 1.
WE HAVE THE LIGHT RAIL, WE HAVE BUSING, WE HAVE WALKING, BIKING.
AS WE KNOW, MILLENNIALS DON'T DRIVE AS MUCH.
THEY ARE JUST DEPENDENT ON THE AUTOMOBILE AS SOME OF THEIR OLDER FOLKS LIKE ME.
KARA DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A FEW VARIANCES TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT DOES MEET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT.
WE HAVE SOME EXISTING HARD SCAPE AND BUILDING THAT PRESENTS SOME ISSUES AND MEETING WITH STRICT COMPLIANCE, NOT TO MENTION THE OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINE ALONG AVENUE B AND AD, SO LANE THAT WOULD BE PLANNED ALONG GARLAND AVENUE AS IT TRANSITIONS TO AVENUE B.
THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER THOSE.
AS I MENTIONED, THE FEATURED LIGHTED WALL NEAR THE PLANE PUBLIC SPACE.
WE HAPPY TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
I THINK WE'LL WRAP IT UP THERE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I CAN'T ANSWER AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> ALREADY IF YOU CAN UNSHARE AND ANALYZE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I SEE COMMISSIONER ROSE THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
YOU'RE BEHIND MY CAMERA, COMMISSION JENKINS THAT'S WHY I CAN ALWAYS SEE YOU.
>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO
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CONTROLLING NON-RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC CUTTING THROUGH THE PROPERTY FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OR SOUTH TO NORTH BECAUSE THERE'S A DIRECT SHOT? JUST ASKING.>> ARE YOU REFERRING FROM THE DRIVE APPROACH AT WILSON TO THE DRIVE APPROACH FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH ON GARLAND AVENUE?
>> WELL, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT TEAM DOESN'T LIKE TO GET UP PROPERTIES.
THEY THINK IT DOESN'T KEEP OUT THE BAD PEOPLE THAT CRIMINALS WILL FIND A WAY IN ANY WAY AND THEY WANT TO LEAVE IT OPEN AS YOU FIND IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THERE'S NO PLAN TO RESTRICT VEHICLE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE SITE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S SUCH A BACKUP THERE THAT AND SOMEONE WHO WOULD NEED TO CUT THROUGH ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU MIGHT HAVE IN SOME OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE YOU HAVE COMMUTER TRAFFIC WOULD THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY SINCE WILSON STREET IS NOT REALLY A STREET THAT REALLY LEADS IN MANY PLACES, IT'S NOT A THOROUGHFARE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SITUATION AS BAD.
I DON'T THINK THEY WANT A LOT OF TRAFFIC LIKE THAT COMING THROUGH.
>> PERHAPS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SPEED BUMPS TO CAUSE SOMEONE THAT DO THAT TO BE SLOW SO THEY DON'T GET AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE WALKING IN THE PARKING AREA.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT VERTICAL DEFLECTION THAT MIGHT SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH AND SEE IF WE CAN LOOK AT DOING SOME OF THAT.
>> I LIKE THAT WORD, VERTICAL DEFLECTION.
[LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. MR. FISHER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE AUDIENCE THAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO RECHARGE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT CONSIDERATE OF AFFORDABILITY OR ALTERNATIVELY, ANY SUBSIDIZED HOUSING UNITS IT'S FOR A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL, WHICH IN A WAY DATES EVERYONE HERE.
THIS, I SPEAK GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR THE CITY.
IT WILL CERTAINLY ADD TO THE CITY'S CULTURE AND A VERY MEANINGFUL WAY.
MY QUESTION I THINK I POSTED EARLIER TO MR. CURE WAS ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF YOUR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SPOTS.
YOU'VE SELECTED HOST LOCATIONS AND I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PARKING WAS DONE WITH SOME LOGIC IN MIND.
CAN YOU SHARE THAT LOGIC FOR US?
>> YEAH. THE ADA SPACES ARE OUR PLAN WHERE OUR ENTRY IS.
THE BANK ENTRY FACES NORTH AND SO IT'S NOT AT THE FRONT ON GARLAND AVENUE, IT'S ACTUALLY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
WE PUT OUR ADA SPACES THERE ARE NOT TO MENTION WHEN WE DO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF FLOORS TWO THROUGH FIVE OUR RESIDENTIAL LOBBY WILL ALSO BE THERE.
IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE ADA SPACES RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT LOBBY ENTRANCE TO THE ELEVATORS.
THEN IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU BRING UP ADA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD MENTIONED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PLAN, THE ADA SPACES ARE LOCATED ON AVENUE B, THOSE MAY NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE RELOCATED TO A COUPLE MAYBE THE SPOTS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO, BETWEEN WHERE YOU HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES AND FOUR PARKING SPACES.
IF THEY'RE A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BOTH LOCATIONS ARE FAIRLY CLOSE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D WORK THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS BEFORE THE CITY WOULD ISSUE PERMITS.
>> IT DOES. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE ADA CONCERNS.
>> CAN I ALSO MENTION ONE MORE THING YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY REAL QUICK? THESE ARE MARKET RATE UNITS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
[LAUGHTER] THESE ARE MARKET RATE UNITS, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT A FEW WERE ASKING FOR A FEW MORE STUDIOS AND A LITTLE BIT SMALLER UNITS ACTUALLY HELP WITH THE AFFORDABILITY AND THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE MAKE A PRIORITY OF WANTING A ROW LARGE UNIT, THEY CAN SAVE A LITTLE BIT.
WE OFFER A LITTLE LOWER RENTAL RATE FOR THOSE SMALLER UNITS.
IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE, BUT THERE IS THAT AFFORDABLE ASPECT FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAYBE ON A BUDGET OR JUST GRADUATED AND STILL WANT TO LIVE IN A NICE NEW PLACE.
>> OKAY. THE SECOND QUESTION AGAIN, I SPEAK VERY GENERALLY AND IN FAVOR.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PLANS GENERALLY MEET THE SPIRIT INTENT AT THE GDC AND I COMPLETELY AGREE.
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I DO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE SOME BUSHES ALONG THE AVENUE B ALONG WITH THE CREPE MYRTLE, SOMETHING TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY FOR MOISTURE RETENTION BUT SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS MORE OF A NATURAL FEEL TO THE AREA.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUGE DEAL.
THE PARKING, THOUGH, I THINK A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONED HOW WE CAME TO THE ANALYSIS.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE REPORT CONSIDERS 0.75 PER BEDROOM AS IT'S DETERMINATION IS PART OF THE EQUATION ABOUT HOW WE GET THAT MANY PARKING SPACES.
BUT YOU MENTIONED DOING A PRESENTATION THAT A MAJORITY OF THE APARTMENTS WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY OR ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE CUT DOWN TO THAT NUMBER.
I'M ASKING IF THE APPLICANT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING A TECHNICAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN IN THE FUTURE TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR JUST TO REVISIT THIS ISSUE SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING IN PLACE ARE ADDRESSED.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING GENERATION AND DEMAND MOVING FORWARD.
>> IT'S LIKELY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR NOT ONLY LOCATION DESTINY SHOULDN'T, BUT BEING IN THE CITY.
IF A CITY HAS A CONCERT DOWNTOWN, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OVERFLOW THAT WANTS TO FIND ITS WAY ONTO YOUR UNIT I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING UP A GATE.
THAT'S I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WE AGAIN CONSIDER A FUTURE PLAN.
THEN I GUESS AFTER TEN YEARS, THE PLACE HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE HOW THINGS HAVE PROGRESSED.
WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME OPTIONS AT THAT POINT.
>> COMMISSIONER DOLTON AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING COMMISSIONER ROSE SAID A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE STREET CUTTING THROUGH FROM AVENUE D. ARE YOU REFERRING TO REDONDO OR TO THE INTERNAL DRIVEWAY IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE INTERNAL DRIVEWAY IS NOT A STRAIGHT SHOT.
IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF DOGLEGS IN IT.
IF I WERE DRIVING DOWN AVENUE B, I DON'T THINK I WOULD TURN IN THERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET AROUND IT.
I JUST WONDERED THAT. REDONDO WAS A CITY STREET.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSE, AND YOU'LL NEED TO UNMUTE.
YOU'RE STILL MUTED, COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> THERE YOU GO. THIS IS FOR STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR A 10 YEAR SUB WOULDN'T START UPON APPROVAL BY COUNSEL, OR WOULD IT START WHEN THEY START LEASING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM SEVERAL YEARS TO TEAR ALL THAT DOWN AND RE-PURPOSE THAT PLUMBING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IF THAT TAKES TWO OR THREE YEARS AND ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO TO BILL, THEY'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THEIR SUV. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
>> RIGHT. THE SQP TIME PERIOD WOULD BEGIN AT THE TIME OF ORDINATES APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.
>> THE TIME PERIOD FOR THE SQP, THE 10 YEARS IN THIS CASE, WOULD BEGIN AT THE ORDINATES APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.
>> THEN THE APPLICANT CAN START DESTRUCTION BEFORE THEY DO CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN TENURED AT SUP DOWN THE CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE JUST DON'T GIVE THEM AT LEAST 15 YEARS SUP.
>> I DON'T THINK THEY'D OBJECT.
>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY COMMISSIONER ROSE, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND YOU'RE.
IT TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU ARE LOSE A COUPLE OF YEARS ON THOSE THINGS.
YOU SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHERE THEY APPROVE AN SUP FOR TWO YEARS.
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE TWO MONTHS BY TIME TO GET YOUR PERMIT.
SO THAT YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
WE DID IT FOR 10 YEARS JUST TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE TIME-FRAME BASED ON FIVE-YEAR RENEWALS.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT 15 YEARS.
>> ARE THE ANY [NOISE] OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A FEW. YOU MENTIONED PHASE TWO,
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DO YOU HAVE A REALISTIC TIMELINE ON THAT OR IS IT DEPENDENT ON FINANCING?SINCE IT INVOLVES FEDERAL APPROVAL, BRANDON COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE DETAIL DETAIL ON THAT MORE, BUT WE'RE TALKING MONTHS TO A YEAR, I WOULD SUSPECT AT MOST.
IT DEPENDS ON THE FEDERAL APPROVAL AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
>> YOU'LL STICK TO NAME AND ADDRESS ON A MICROPHONE FOR US. I'LL APPRECIATE IT.
>> YEAH. BRANDON BOWEN, 3135 HONEY TREE LANE, AUSTIN, TEXAS 78746 [INAUDIBLE] OUTER GROUND FLOOR DEVELOPMENT.
THE PLAN HERE IS, WE CALL IT PHASES, BUT BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS, NOW I'M A CONSERVATIVE GUY, SO I DON'T LIKE TO OVER-PROMISE AND UNDER PERFORM.
IT IS CONSTRUCTED ON BOTH THE CHASE TOWER RENOVATION AND CONSTRUCTED ON THE NEW 155 UNIT COMPLEX, WOULD HAPPEN STAR CONSTRUCTION AROUND Q3 OR Q4 OF THIS YEAR.
WE WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON BOTH ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT AT ONCE.
ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, IT'S ACTUALLY BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE.
THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE HERE IN AUSTIN, PLUS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR.
THAT PROCESS IS ABOUT 180 DAY PROCESS AND WE'VE ENGAGED THE CONSULTANTS TO ASSURE US THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION Q3 OR Q4 THIS YEAR ON BOTH PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
>> WELL, IT'S A FEDERAL INVOLVEMENT TO CHANGE IT TO 40 YEARS UP, BUT IT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY.
THE REASON I ASKED THAT, AND I'M GLAD THAT IT'S GOING AND IT'S AN A PROCESS, BECAUSE WITH THE PARK AND THE WAY IT IS, ONCE THE MAIN APARTMENTS ARE DEVELOPED, YOU COULDN'T EVEN USE THIS SECOND THROUGH THE FIFTH FLOOR FOR OFFICE USES.
EVEN IN ESSENCE HAD TO REMAIN VACANT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PARKING FOR IT.
NOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF EVERYTHING, NOT HAVING ARBITRAGE SITTING THERE, EMPTY SPACE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN ASSET THAT YOU'RE PURCHASING AND IT NEEDS TO BE USED.
I THINK I'LL ASK THE WILMETTE.
YOU ALL ARE REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARKING ANALYSIS AND WILLEM, ASSUMING TRAFFIC IS REVIEWED, THE PARKING ANALYSIS, THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT?
>> YES, SIR. STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
THE GDC GUIDANCE FOR DOWNTOWN DOES ALLOW IT.
IT ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES SHARED PARKING ON STREET PARKING, PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR REDUCTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OF COURSE, WITH THE PARKING STUDY PROVIDED TO HELP JUSTIFY THAT.
WHAT MR. FISHER, APPRECIATED MR. FISHER'S CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE NUMBER, THE BREAKDOWN IN UNIT NUMBERS AS WELL.
I DON'T THINK WE MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER ABOUT THAT.
>> [NOISE] PEAK USAGE CHANGES IS A GOOD POINT TOO.
BUT OF COURSE, BEING JUST A WEEK BIT OLDER IN ON WHAT WE TURNED 16 DASH [NOISE] , WE HAD TO HAVE THAT CAR.
YET THE YOUNG URBANITES, AND THIS IS MORE OF A TRULY URBAN DEAL WHICH I SEE MORE DATA MOCKINGBIRD STATION, WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE CARS AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT MARKET HERE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR.
IF WE RUN OUT PARKING, WE'RE GOING TO START PARKING IN THE STREETS OVER DANDO NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT AND DISCUSS WITH YOU WILLIS, RIGHT NOW THAT IS ANGLE PARKING OVER AT DANDO.
SO WHEN YOU COME OUT, NATURALLY WILL BE TO PULL OUT AND THEN GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET BACK UP THERE WOULD BE.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY SEE, AND AGAIN, LET THE TRAFFIC EXPERTS TAKE CARE OF IT, MAYBE 90 DEGREE PARKING, SO IT'S EASIER TO PULL BACK UP AND GO STRAIGHT OUT TO AVENUE B WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> YEAH, CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA HAS BEEN POSTED AND WE CAN'T DO 90 DEGREE PARKING ON REDONDO.
WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 24 FEET OF DRIVE EYAL AND WE'RE PROPOSING 27.
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THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO DO 90, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT.THAT WAY IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO GO BACK OUT TOWARDS AVENUE B DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF THEM INTRUDING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THE CURRENT ANGLE PARKING?
I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO IMPROVING THAT ROAD FOR THE LENGTH OF PROPERTY THERE TOO.
I JUST HAD A RANDOM IDEA FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO FIND SOME SPACES, WE'RE TALKING OF URBAN LIVERS, SOME OF THEM DRIVE MOTORCYCLES INSTEAD OF CARS.
MOTORCYCLES SPOTS TAKE UP A LOT OF LESS SPACE THAN CAR SPOTS.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT IN, GOOD.
IN TERMS OF MARKETING, ONE THING I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO IS ON THOSE UNITS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET.
IF YOU CAN CONSTRUCT THEM WITH PROPER SEPARATIONS AND EVERYTHING, MAKE THEM MORE OF A LIVE WORK SPACE.
OR MAYBE YOU'VE GOT AN ACCOUNT LIVING DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN WALK TO HIS PLACE, RESTORE WALKING, DO YOUR BUSINESS.
I'M AN ARCHITECT, IT'S EVER SINGLE AND EVERYTHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE NICE, SO WE CAN GET SOME OFFICE OR SOME MULTI-USE IN THAT BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THAT'S JUST MY MARKETING EDGE FOR TWO CENTS FOR WHAT'S WORTH.
WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T DISCOURAGE AN ACCOUNTANT OR SOMEBODY THAT COULD LIVE THERE AND RUN A VERY, I GUESS RUN AN OFFICE.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND GUESTS NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF GUESTS TODAY.
YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT TO PORTRAY ANY NOXIOUS OR INCOMPATIBLE ISSUE WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENCE, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE ON A LIMITED BASIS FOR THOSE GROUND-UP UNIONS.
>> CHANCES ARE CONSTRUCTION WE PLAN BUT JUST CHECK INTO THE FINE POINTS OF HAVING AN OFFICE.
THAT CLASSIFICATION, BUILDING CODES, SEPARATION FROM PURE APARTMENT.
IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE, THEY CAN HELP YOU DOWN A BUILDING, INSPECTION [INAUDIBLE].
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. MARK MARCUS REED, I BELIEVE.
>> YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. DON'T BRING HIM IN.
>> YOU'RE ALREADY IN. MARCUS, COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
>> IT WOULD APPEAR THAT HE HAS LEFT.
WE DO HAVE BARBRA CUZ THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
>> COME ON NOW. FEEL LIKE BOB BARKER.
I COME ON DOWN. WE HAVE BETWEEN HOLLYWOOD SQUARES WITH ALL OF YOU IN SQUARES LIKE THIS.
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THIS IS BARBARA KEYS AND MY HUSBAND, CHRISTOPHER GARRISON IS HERE WITH ME AND WE RESIDE AT [NOISE] 1421 REDONDO DRIVE AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE REASONS YOU HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT UP.
PARKING, JUST GENERAL CONDENSATION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NOISE LEVEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PARKING LOT IN OUR FRONT YARD PRACTICALLY.
WE ARE ON THE END OF THAT STREET, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
I GUARANTEE YOU PEOPLE WILL BE DRIVING DOWN AT ALL THE TIME, IF I'LL PUT THIS HERE.
IT'S JUST BRINGING UP A LOT OF CONCERNS.
IT ALSO BRINGS CONCERNS TO THE PROPERTY VALUES OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR.
I DON'T SEE HOW THIS WOULD IMPROVE ANYTHING.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE THIS IS ALREADY SMALL STREETS OR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED IN REGARDS TO IF THIS WAS APPROVED, WHEN ALL OF THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE STARTING.
>> THE PROCESS OF APPROVAL IS PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HEARING IT IN MARCH.
THEN THE APPLICANT OR MR. FISHER, YOU CAN PROBABLY RELATE TO WHEN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD START.
BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ENGINEERING AND BUILDING PERMITS, WHICH IS THE ARCHITECTURAL ISN'T DONE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A GOOD SIX TO NINE MONTHS PROBABLY BEFORE YOU GET THAT GO ON.
WE JUST PAID OUR HOUSE OFF, SO WHAT IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN OUR HOUSE FOR A FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU ALL FEEL SOMETHING ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW, TO FACE OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND PUSH THIS OUT.
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IS THAT WHAT YOUR PLAN IS?>> CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD ADDRESS THE PROPERTY VALUE, TYPICALLY PROPERTY VALUES ARE AFFECTED WHEN YOU COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY COMING IN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FIRST-CLASS DEVELOPMENT SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF DOING THAT.
BUT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU COMPARE PROPERTY VALUES, IT'S BETWEEN OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.
IF THIS WAS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND IT WAS SHODDY, AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES OF QUALITY, I'D SAY YOU'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY VALUE.
BECAUSE AN APPRAISAL WOULD COME OUT AND SAY, "WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND HERE?" IT COULD DEVALUE YOUR PROPERTY.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.
IF ANYTHING, IT MAY RAISE PROPERTY VALUE AS THE PROPERTY VALUES AROUND YOU GO UP FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEING MADE.
I UNDERSTAND CHANGE IS DIFFICULT.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IN THIS ONE IS THE ORIGINAL ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED ACTUALLY ALLOWED A MUCH GREATER DENSITY AND FOUR STOREYS.
SINCE THAT APPROVAL, THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL TO OUR WEST AND THEY'VE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF STOREYS FROM FOUR TO THREE.
THEN THE DENSITY IS ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
WE ARE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE AS MUCH WE CAN AS AS THIS PARCEL IS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AND PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
REDONDO DRIVE WOULD BE IMPROVED.
IT WOULD BE A 27 FOOT WIDE AISLE OR STREET.
YES, WE DO HAVE SOME PARKING ALONG THERE.
HOWEVER, WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVING THE WIDTH SO THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE ROOM FOR BOTH THE PREVAILING TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO THE PARKING THAT WE WOULD BE INTRODUCING.
I KNOW THAT PROBABLY IT DOESN'T ASSUAGE ALL YOUR CONCERNS, BUT AT LEAST I HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
>> LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO THAT TO MAYBE ACTUAL NUMBERS WILL HELP.
THIS PROPOSAL IS ABOUT A 135, A 140 UNITS?
>> ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE, AND THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS 335, I THINK.
[NOISE] OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN NUMBER TERMS.
I DID GET YOUR LETTER AND I DID LOOK IT OVER.
IT WAS PROXY SOME OF MY QUESTIONS TOO ABOUT THE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE SEEN IN THE DALLAS AREA THAT SOME AREAS ARE GOING WITH TOWN HOMES OR SOME MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THERE'S LOTS NEARBY.
THEY ARE JUST GOING FOR OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNTS.
>> WELL, OUR WHOLE CONCERN IS, WHERE PRIVACY AND WE CAN LIVE OUR LIVES IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE PARK ON OUR STOREYS.
ALL THE TIME [INAUDIBLE] IS THE POLICE.
THAT'S OUR MAIN CONCERN, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS.
>> WE BELIEVE WE'VE DESIGNED OUR SITE AND OUR PARKING TO FULLY ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING THAT WE WILL BEEN GENERATE.
WE DON'T WANT A PARKING ISSUE FOR OUR OWN OPERATION PURPOSES.
BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO CREATE A PARKING ISSUE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR INFORMATION DOWN AND WORK WITH YOU CLOSELY AND EVEN THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CONSTRUCTION PHASE WHICH WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND SENSITIVE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ON, DURING THAT PHASE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO BE AT LEAST INTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
>> IT MAY EVEN BE THE CASE I NOTICED ON THAT STREET, THERE ISN'T MUCH LANDSCAPING AT THE SIDE OF THE STREET AND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING UP FOR THEIR HOUSES, EVEN IF IT'S ON THEIR SIDE, MAYBE.
>> WE CAN DEFINITELY CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, GET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
>> OKAY. SHE INTRODUCED BOTH OF THEM, BUT I COULD GO AHEAD AND LET THE GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> CHRIS GARRISON 1421, REDONDO DRIVE SORRY.
>> THANK YOU AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP.
AGAIN, THIS WILL GO IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL,
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NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS HERE.>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE BAD PEOPLE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO [LAUGHTER] DO THE RIGHT THING FOR EVERYBODY, I GUESS.
>> TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE USUALLY YOU DON'T GET THAT MUCH NOTICE SINCE IT'S A BIG THING AND YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE.
MAXWELL, YOU'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FROM TRACY. I GUESS.
>> WE'LL BE HAPPY TO CONNECT WITH THEM, BUT PRIOR THE COUNCIL HEARING.
>> ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> YES, SIR. WE HAVE STEVEN TERRY BASHIR.
I ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY TOO DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S ON 1417 WEST AVENUE B, THAT'S THE LITTLE WHITE HOUSE ON THE PICTURES ON DIRECTLY WEST OF THE PROJECT.
OF COURSE, AND LIKE OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING, AS FAR AS VISITOR'S PARKING DOWN OUR STREET ALSO.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE.
ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES IS, REDONDO IS A OLD ASPHALT ROAD.
THERE'S NO DRAINAGE, THERE'S NO KERBS, THERE'S NO STREETLIGHTS ON THIS ROAD WHATSOEVER.
MR. FISHER SAID THEY WERE GOING TO IMPROVE REDONDO, BUT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO IMPROVE IT ON THAT ONE END, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I BELIEVE ALONG THE PROPERTY.
I SEE SOME SHAKING HEADS. GO AHEAD.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE WOULD IMPROVE IT ADJACENT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE NORTH, SOUTH SECTION OF REDONDO. THAT'S CORRECT.
>> REDONDO AVENUE BEING AT MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HERE KNOW IT WOULD BE ONE-WAY ROAD.
THE WAY YOUR CARS ARE PARKED IN, THEY'RE LIKE CHAIRMAN ROBERT TRY TO SLANT, THEY'RE GOING TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN COME RIGHT DOWN OUR STREET.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY WAY FOR THEM TO GET OUT.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ABOUT 40 PARKING SPACES ALONG REDONDO.
NOW, IF YOU'RE FULL, OF COURSE AND GASSED, THINGS LIKE THAT, NOW YOU'RE RUNNING 40 NEW CARS, AT LEAST 40 CARS DOWN OUR STREET EVERY DAY.
WE HAVE 24 HOUSES ON THIS STREET.
AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALK, WE HAVE NO KERB, NO ESTABLISHED TYPE OF SETTING THERE.
NOW YOU'RE RUNNING CHORDS DOWN AN OLD ASPHALT ROAD.
WE OUGHT TO UNDERSTAND BUSINESS AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.
WE'RE OPPOSED TO HAVING ACCESS DOWN OUR STREET.
THERE IN THE CORNER WHERE OUR NEIGHBOR THAT JUST MENTIONED ALSO, THAT ROAD DOESN'T GO THROUGH THERE. IT'S AN ALLEY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A STREET NAME OR ANYTHING, IT'S AN ALLEY THAT GOES FROM REDONDO TO WILSON.
I SAW MR. FISHER'S PICTURE OF THAT A MOMENT AGO, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S ADDRESSED VERY WELL ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THAT THROUGH.
BUT WHEN MR. DISTRICT SEVEN SPOKE ABOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRIVE-THROUGH ON THE END OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, PEOPLE THAT WOULD EXIT ONTO WILSON, LEAVE THE BUILDING, THE APARTMENTS ON WILSON, COME DOWN TO THAT ALLEY, COME BACK DOWN THAT ALLEY ONTO REDONDO JUST TO GET BACK TO AVENUE B.
A BANK DOES HAVE ATM BACK OVER HERE.
WE SEE CARS THERE 24/7 EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME.
WE CURRENTLY GET THAT TRAFFIC FROM PEOPLE GOING BACK TO AVENUE B TO GO DOWN THROUGH OUR ROAD, THROUGH THAT ALLEY.
WE GET THAT TRAFFIC GOING BACK TO AVENUE B INSTEAD OF GOING UP THE [INAUDIBLE] ROAD AND GO ON THROUGH THE TWO LIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE THROUGH TO GET BACK TO AVENUE B.
OUR BASIC CONCERN IS VISITORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE'VE GOT 40 SPACES OUT THERE, I UNDERSTAND,
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YOU SAID IT'S AN AFFORDABLE PRICE, MR. FISHER MENTIONED ITS AFFORDABILITY.WELL, IF YOU PUT TWO PEOPLE IN EACH UNIT IT'S REAL AFFORDABLE.
NOW YOU'VE GOT TWO CARS VERSUS ONE CAR.
EVEN THOUGH THE DART STATION IS A MILE AWAY, THE BUS THAT GOES ON AVENUE B GOES AWAY FROM THE DARK STATION.
THE BUS THAT GOES DOWN GARLAND AVENUE GOES AWAY FROM THE BUS STATION ALSO, AWAY FROM THE DARK STATION.
MILLENNIALS ARE NOT GOING TO WALK THE MILE TO THE DARK STATION.
THEY MIGHT STAND OUT AND TAKE THE BUS, BUT I WALK EVERY DAY AND I DON'T SEE MILLENNIALS WALKING.
I'M A RETIRED, I LIVE IN THE AREA HERE, I WALK EVERY DAY THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS, AND I DON'T SEE MILLENNIALS WALKING, AND ASSURE I DON'T SEE THEM WALKING THAT ONE HOUR OVER TO THE DARK STATION.
THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT THERE.
LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH ALL WHAT WE BELIEVE PUSH CARS DOWN OUR WAY, EITHER FROM WILSON OR FROM THAT PARKING AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH HIM DOWN OUR STREET, WHICH LIKE I MENTIONED AGAIN, IT'S AN OLD ASPHALT ROAD.
OLD ASPHALT GOOD TOO, BUT OLD ASPHALT ROAD.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO AND EVERYTHING.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE, LIKE HE HAD MENTIONED IT, OUR PROPERTY VALUES MAY GO UP.
BUT THE STRAIGHT TRAFFIC THAT WE WOULD POSSIBLY BE LOOKING AT IS WHERE OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS.
>> IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY, QUITE CALM COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES AND CHILDREN THAT PLAY OUT IN THE FRONT.
A LOT OF CHILDREN PLAY ON THE STREET AND WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER ON THE STREET, WE ALL HELP EACH OTHER ON THE STREET, BUT PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS, DON'T KNOW US, DON'T KNOW OUR SMALL COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL WORRY ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, FINE.
FAST CARS, PEOPLE WALKING DOWN HERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE THAT ANYWAY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS, BUT I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE STREET ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING FROM THE APARTMENTS ON REDONDO, INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS HAVING YOUR OWN ENTRANCE AND EXIT IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX TO HAVE REDONDO AS AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT.
I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON OUR STREET ARE OPPOSED TO THAT.
>> MA'AM, I'LL NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO IT'S LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THAT.
>> YES, SIR. IT'S TERRY BASHIR, 149 REDONDO.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO US.
>> CHAIRMAN, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> THE FIRST THING IS I HAD LIKE TO CLARIFY WE ARE PROPOSING 22 ON-STREET PARKING SPACES ON REDONDO, NOT 40.
IT'S ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WAS STATED.
IT IS A GOOD POINT THAT THE ANGLE PARKING THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON OUR PLAN MAY OR MAY NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM PULLING OUT OF THE ANGLE PARKING AND THEN HEADING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BY HEADING NORTH AND THEN LAST ON REDONDO.
WE ARE HAPPY TO ADJUST THOSE PARKING SPACES TO 90-DEGREE TO AT LEAST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HEAD DIRECTLY BACK TO AVENUE B TO AVOID INTRUSION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I BELIEVE THAT THE ALLEY OR THE VEHICULAR PASSAGEWAY THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO FROM REDONDO, WHERE IT DEAD ENDS AND MAKES A 90-DEGREE ANGLE WEST, IN OUR PROPOSED PLAN WE SHOW THAT NON-EXISTING.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE A CUT-THROUGH.
WE'D ACTUALLY BE IMPROVING AND REDUCING PARTICULAR VEHICULAR INTRUSION ON REDONDO, AT LEAST FROM WILSON.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT FROM WILSON.
ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM OUR SITE TO REDONDO.
WE ONLY HAVE SOME ON-STREET PARKING FOR RESIDENTS ON REDONDO.
NO VEHICULAR DRIVEWAY PRACTICE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAVING TRAFFIC ON REDONDO COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR PROPERTY FROM THE PARKING LOT ITSELF.
WE ARE PROPOSING A SIDEWALK ALONG REDONDO IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE 27 FEET OF DRIVEWAY OR DRIVE AISLE,
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WE'LL HAVE OUR ANGLE PARKING AND THEN A SIDEWALK, THERE'LL BE LIGHTING.IT WON'T BE SPILLING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IT WILL PROVIDE SOME SECURITY AND A BIT WILL HELP RESIDENTS AND KEEP IT WELL LIT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CURB ANY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.
OUR PARKING GENERATION STUDY THAT WE DO IS DONE BY PACHECO KOCH WHO IS KNOWN AS THE LEADING PARKING GENERATION AND TRAFFIC STUDY FIRM IN DFW, THEY PROBABLY DO THE MOST, AND THEY BASE THEIR STUDIES ON ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS ON WHERE THEY'RE NOT ONLY WITH THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENT ITSELF, BUT ALSO WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE BASED ON ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAN FEEL VERY CONFIDENT AND THAT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH PARKING BASED ON A NUMBER OF OTHER STUDIES THAT ARE DONE ON EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.
I THINK I HAVE AT LEAST ATTEMPTED TO ANSWER AS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS AS POSSIBLE.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
>> ALL RIGHT. YOU GO AHEAD. BUT LET ME KNOW -
>> LIKE HE SAYS, REDONDO MAKES A 90-DEGREE TURN, AND CURRENTLY, THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT GOES TO WILSON.
>> I THINK I CAN ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THEIR SIDE PLANE RIGHT HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT MAY BE AN ALLEY NOW WILL NO LONGER BE BECAUSE THEY'RE SHOWN A PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK LEADING DOWN THERE AND WHERE THAT ALLEY AS IT EXISTS NOW COMES OUT, WILL ACTUALLY BE PARALLEL PARKING WITH A CURVE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ELIMINATING THE ABILITY TO GO DOWN WHAT IS NOW A DEAD ALLEY AND CUT THROUGH.
>> YEAH. ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE REPLACING THE ALLEY WITH SIDEWALK AND GRASS. THAT'S CORRECT, CHAIRMAN.
>> ONE OTHER THING HERE THOUGH.
SEE, WHEN YOU LIVE ON REDONDO, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO KROGER, YOU GO THROUGH THAT ALLEY.
KROGER BEING THE CLOSEST GROCERY STORE LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY, YOU GO THROUGH THAT ALLEY TO GET TO THE KROGER, SOME TO GET UP TO GARLAND ROAD.
YOU'RE SHUTTING OFF THE ABILITY FOR US TO GET OUT TO GO NORTH, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD GO DOWN AVENUE B, ALL THE WAY TO STATE STREET, MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK JUST TO GO TO A GROCERY STORE THAT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY.
>> SOMEBODY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?
>> YEAH. THE CURRENT DRIVE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS A PRIVATE DRIVE ON THE DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY.
IT WOULD BE ELIMINATED TO ACCOMMODATE THE REDEVELOPMENT OR IN THIS CASE, THE SIDEWALK AND GRASS AREA.
ON ONE HAND, YES, THAT YOU WILL LOSE THE CONVENIENCE OF THAT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND YOU'RE ALSO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT YOU COULD HAVE FROM NOT ONLY OUR DEVELOPMENT BUT JUST IN GENERAL IN THE AREA.
>> BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S AN ALLEY LOOKING BECAUSE IT'S AN ALLEY, WE STILL GET PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THAT AREA, BUT EVERY DAY WE SEE CARS THAT PULL UP OR PULL OUT OF THAT AREA AND DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO.
WE KNOW THEY'RE USING IT AS AN ALLEY, USING IT TO GET BACK TO AVENUE B.
THEY USE THAT LITTLE PROMPT THROUGH WHEN THEY GO TO THE ATM MACHINE OR EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BEHIND US OVER THERE OFF OF WILSON AND GRANT AND ALL OF THAT, THEY COME THROUGH THERE TO GET TO AVENUE B INSTEAD OF GOING TO GARLAND AVENUE.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHTS, OF CORSE, SO YOU'RE GOING TO SHOOT THROUGH THAT WAY.
AGAIN, THE PROBLEM IS NOW YOU'VE TAKEN 25 FAMILIES THAT HAVE LIVED ON THE STREETS, SOME OF THEM HAD LIVED ON THE STREET FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW OR MANY YEARS AND YOU'RE TELLING THEM WHY YOU CAN'T GO BACK THROUGH THAT WAY.
HOW TO GET TO THE GROCERY STORE.
NOW, YOU'RE HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND.
DON'T YOU THINK, THE INCONVENIENCE -
>> IT IS A LITTLE LONGER HOWEVER, YOU ARE IN A CAR.
IT'S NOT AN INORDINATE DISTANCE TO DRIVE AN EXTRA, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT IS.
>> BUT THERE WOULD BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THAT PROVIDES A BETTER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION POINT THAT YOU COULD WALK, NOT THAT YOU'RE WALKING INTO KROGER NECESSARILY, BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO WALK IN A SAFE FOR A WELL-LIT SIDEWALK NORTH TO STATE STREET.
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>> YOU'VE ANSWERED EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED.
>> ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK THE COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BASED UPON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD?
>> WE HAVE ONE, ROBERT. WE STILL HAVE ONE NUMBER FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> OKAY. I DIDN'T GET [OVERLAPPING] GOOD EVENING.
AND IF YOU'LL STAY TUNED, YES, PLEASE.
>> YES, JOHNNY BERTRAND, 1417 REDONDO DRIVE ON THAT CORNER, ON THAT ALLEYWAY. [LAUGHTER].
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME WITH PIGGYBACKING ON EVERYTHING HERE.
SIMPLY, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT PARKING THERE AS FAR AS PUTTING IN A FENCE THAT RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO BACK INTO OR PUT INTO FACING REDONDO DRIVES INSTEAD OF I HEARD YOU WITH NOT GETTING IN THE PROPERTY, GETTING IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD PROVIDE PRIVACY AS DESIRED FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD ALSO PUT YOUR GUEST PARKING INSIDE YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR APARTMENTS.
IF I'VE GATHERED THE WAY THAT IT'S LAID OUT.
>> CHAIRMAN, THAT WE NEEDED TO TRY IT.
YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S THE ANGEL PARKING ON REDONDO IS SPANNING ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S NOT REALLY A WAY TO PUT A FENCE THERE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THOSE SPACES WOULD BE TO PULL HEAD IN.
THERE IS THE SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BACK INTO SPACES, BUT THIS DOESN'T AFFORD YOU TO DO THAT.
THAT'S MORE OF A TWO-WAY MAIN STREET SITUATION.
EVEN THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF DESIGN PROFESSIONALS AND EXPERTS THAT SAY THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO BACK INTO A SPACE ON THE STREET.
THAT JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE HERE.
I ALSO THINK YOU'D BE BACK IN, YOU'D HAVE HEADLIGHTS FACING OUT INTO THE STREET ACROSS TO THE RESIDENCE UNLESS IT HITS A FENCE.
THOSE HEADLIGHTS FROM IT ACTUALLY COULD BE WORSE.
BUT I THINK GOING INTO 90 DEGREE PARKING ON THAT STREET WILL AT LEAST HELP PEOPLE TO KEEP THEM ENTERING AND EXITING THOSE PARKING SPACES AND HEADING DIRECTLY TO AVENUE B INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WEST ON REDONDO.
>> WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAINTS AGAIN.
YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL CHECK WITH STAFF ABOUT POSSIBILITIES OF SIGNAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW THROUGH TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT,.
>> WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION ON AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE COULD ADD OR THEY COULD ADD.
NO PARKING WHERE PARKING SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED US TO. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
>> JUMPED THE GUN BY ONE PERSON. I'M SORRY, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS, [INAUDIBLE].
I SEE COMMISSIONER LAMBS AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
>> THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN. DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GUEST PARKING IS ONLY IN THE STREET OR IS IT ON SOME OF THE GUESTS PARKING ON THE PROJECT AS WELL?
>> WE DON'T HAVE PARKING THAT SPECIFIED FOR GUESTS AND RESIDENTS.
NOW, WE HAVE THE GARAGE PARKING.
GARAGE PARKING, THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE FOR RESIDENTS ONLY.
THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL RESIDENT PARKING ONLY WITHIN THE FACILITY, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THE PARKING IN THE STREET WILL NOT BE MARKED AS RESIDENT PARKING.
IT WILL JUST BE PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND GUESTS.
WE CAN POTENTIALLY LOOK AT SOME THINGS LIKE THAT AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS OKAY WITH IT, OF COURSE I DON'T WANT TO OFFER SET THEM UP AND THAT COMMITS THEM TO DO SOMETHING THEY CAN'T DO.
BUT THEN WE'D HAVE TO ALSO WORK WITH TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU AND MR. CHAIRMAN I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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I'M NOT SURE I'D WANT PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WOULD KEEP ME FROM HAVING GAS IF I LIVED ON REDONDO IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE UPWARD CAN LOOK REAL CLOSE AT THIS AND DO EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE IF IT IS AN ISSUE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS PARKING ISSUE TAKEN CARE OF. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.
>> THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE THE STATE LAWS FROM TWO YEARS AGO COME TO BITE US IN.
ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE'D PROBABLY OFFER A POSTPONEMENT REVIEW AND LOOK AT IT.
THE STATE NOW REQUIRES THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOLKS IN AUSTIN AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
>> I'D LIKE TO IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST I HEARD FROM MR. FISHER THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO SPEAK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND COME TO SOME ADDITIONAL TERMS THAT MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED HERE AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE DETAIL PLAY AT THIS CONCERNED.
I'M ALSO NOT CERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN PUT IN THE STREET DIVIDERS OR I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL TERMINOLOGY FOR THEM.
ROADWAY INDICATOR'S SPEED BUMP TYPE PHASE.
BUT ANYTHING THAT CAN DIRECT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AWAY FROM REDONDO AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE BOTH BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
CERTAINLY PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT WE JUST SAID.
>> COMMISSIONERS RUNNING ANYMORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AND THE MOTION WE NEED TO COVER THREE AREAS.
THE AMENDMENT TO PD 14-23, THE SPECTRAL USE PROVISION FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND A DETAILED PLAN. COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED PD, AMEND THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION IN CONSIDERATION OF AN EXTENSION OF THE 10-YEAR TO A 15-YEAR AND APPROVE THE DETAILED PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND CONSIDERATION OF A ADDITIONAL SUBMITTED TECHNICAL.
PARKING STUDY AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT AND ADA ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE SPOTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THAT AND THAT WOULD BE IT.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE PD, ESTIMATED APPROVED THIS SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR A PERIOD OF 15 TEARS AND APPROVED THE DETAIL PLAN WITH A SUGGESTION THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY BE MORE DETAILED.
WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY FIVE YEARS OUT.
THAT MAY BE A CONDITIONED WITH THE PD WOULD BE AN ADDED CONDITION TO THE PD THEN.
IN TERMS OF PARKING, I CAN TELL YOU FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THESE PLANS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TESTS AT TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS REVIEW.
AS MATTER OF FACT, I HAD ALREADY POINTED OUT TO THAT THAT THEY NEED TO MOVE A FEW OF THOSE PARKING HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES BECAUSE THE TASKS REVIEW YOUR MOST LIKELY WOULD MAKE A MOVEMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION. DO I SEE A SECOND?
>> I APOLOGIZE. ARE WE INCLUDING IN THE PD THE 90-DEGREE PARKING SPACES?
>> WE CAN. YES, LET'S DO THAT IN A PD BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO A DETAILED PLAN BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THE DETAILED PLAN IS DIRECT.
LET ME REPHRASE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO PD 14 DASH 23 WAS THE PROVISION OF 90 DEGREE PARKING SPACES ALONG REDONDO DRIVE.
AND WITH THE PROVISION THAT A DETAILED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BE SUBMITTED WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH FOR 15 YEARS AND APPROVE A LITTLE DETAIL PLAN.
I SEE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT MAKE A COMMENT?
>> I JUST NOTICED LOOKING AT A MAP REDONDO DRIVE IS NOT A THROUGH STREET.
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I'M WONDERING IF POSSIBLY THEY COULD PUT A SIGN UP THAT SAYS NOT A THROUGH STREET, WHICH WOULD THEN NEGATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.>> I THINK THAT'S AN A NOTE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW LISTENING TO IT.
I SEE SOMEBODY'S WRITING THAT DOWN RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, IT'S NOT A THROUGH STREET THAT ALLEY APPARENTLY IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR TO DRIVEWAY OR WHATEVER IT IS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR CITIZENS [INAUDIBLE] WE DID HEAR IT AND YOUR NOTES ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
I BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPER WILL GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU TOO.
[2.d. Consideration of the application of Amando Palacios, requesting approval of an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 80-42 for Community Retail Uses toreconstruct an existing Restaurant, Drive-Through. This property is located at 5621Broadway Boulevard. (District 4) (File Z 20-41 - Zoning)]
[2.e. Consideration of the application of Amando Palacios , requesting approval of a Specific Use Provision for Restaurant, Drive-Through. This property is located at 5621 BroadwayBoulevard. (District 4) (File Z 20-41 – Specific Use Provision)]
[2.f. Consideration of the application of Amando Palacios, requesting approval of a Detail Planfor Restaurant, Drive-Through. This property is located at 5621 Broadway Boulevard.(District 4) (File Z 20-41 - Detail Plan)]
AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER THREE TARGETS.ITEM 2D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ARMANDO PALACIOS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 80-42 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES, TO RECONSTRUCT AN EXISTING RESTAURANT DRIVE-THROUGH.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5621 BROADWAY BOULEVARD.
ITEM 2E, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ARMANDO PALACIOS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE-THROUGH.
SAME ADDRESS. ITEM 2F, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ARMANDO PALACIOS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE-THROUGH.
AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 5621 BROADWAY.
>> HERE IS THE REQUEST AND THIS IS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, AND DETAIL PLAN.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.627 ACRES.
HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR.
OVER HERE IS BROADWAY BOULEVARD.
OVER HERE IS DUCK CREEK DRIVE, AND OVER HERE IS ROBIN ROAD.
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT ARE ALL MAINLY COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
THE SITE IS ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 80-42.
OVER HERE THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS TRANSIT-ORIENTED CENTERS.
HERE IS A ZOOMED-IN VERSION OF THE LAND USE MAP, AND THE STAR IDENTIFIES THAT LOCATION.
THIS IS JUST THE NARRATIVE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CONVENIENTLY LOCATED CLOSE TO A DART BUS STOP AND THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING SITE.
THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM DUCK CREEK DRIVE.
THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH USE WHICH CLOSED DOWN.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO RECONSTRUCT A 2760 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO USE IT FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH USE.
THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT WILL NOT CHANGE.
IT WILL REMAIN THE SAME, AND THIS IS THE BUILDING LOCATION.
THE SITE WILL COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THERE ISN'T MUCH LANDSCAPING EXISTING ON SITE TODAY, BUT THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING TRIGGERS FULL COMPLIANCE OF THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
PARTICULARLY FOR BROADWAY BOULEVARD, A 15-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THIS APPLICANT PROPOSES A SEVEN-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, ALONG WITH 10 ORNAMENTAL TREES AND 55 SHRUBS.
THAT IS DUE TO THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES AND SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS.
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THEY CAN'T PUT ANY LARGE CANOPY TREES WHICH WILL CONFLICT WITH THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES.FOR DUCK CREEK DRIVE, A 15-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, ALONG WITH FOUR CANOPY TREES AND 28 SHRUBS.
ALSO DUE TO THE SITE CONSTRAINTS AND SOME OVERHEAD UTILITY LINE, THEY'RE UNABLE TO PROPOSE THOSE CANOPY TREES, AND THEY'RE STICKING TO THE ORNAMENTAL TREES.
OVER HERE IS ROBIN ROAD, THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE IS A 35-FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT.
THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 21 SHRUBS, WHICH WILL BE RIGHT HERE.
ADDITIONALLY, FOR PARKING AREA LANDSCAPING, THREE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED ON THE LANDSCAPE, ON THE PARKING ISLANDS.
BECAUSE OF THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES, THEY ARE PROPOSING ONE CANOPY TREE AND FOUR ORNAMENTAL TREES.
HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THIS IS WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY AND THIS IS PROPOSED.
THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION THAT IS FACING DUCK CREEK.
THIS IS WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY, AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION EXISTING FACING BROADWAY, AND THIS WAS PROPOSED.
SINCE THIS IS FACING BROADWAY BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A PUBLIC STREET, BOTH HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL ARTICULATION IS REQUIRED.
THEY ARE PROVIDING THE VERTICAL ARTICULATION, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT, THEY ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DEVIATION FOR THAT.
BUT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE OTHER BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION EXISTING AND PROPOSED.
THESE ARE JUST THE COLORED ELEVATIONS.
HERE'S THE SUMMARY TABLE OF THE DEVIATIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
A 15-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED ALONG BROADWAY BOULEVARD, ALONG WITH SIX CANOPY TREES AND 42 SHRUBS.
WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S BETWEEN 1-6 FEET AND THERE ARE NO TREES OR SHRUBS ON THE BUFFER.
PROPOSED IS A SEVEN-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, ALONG WITH 10 ORNAMENTAL TREES, AND 55 SHRUBS.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THESE DEVIATIONS BECAUSE OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS AND THE OVERHEAD LINES.
THERE'S ALSO A DEVIATION FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG DUCK CREEK DRIVE WHICH IS A 15-FOOT WIDE BUFFER ALONG WITH FOUR CANOPY TREES AND 28 SHRUBS.
EXISTING IS A VARIABLE WITH BUFFER BETWEEN 5-6 FEET, AND THERE ARE NO TREES OR SHRUBS EXISTING TODAY.
PROPOSED AS A SEVEN-FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, ALONG WITH SIX ORNAMENTAL TREES, ONE CANOPY TREE, AND 43 SHRUBS.
ALSO THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, THEY ARE REQUESTING THIS DEVIATION.
FOR THE PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING, A TOTAL OF THREE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED ON THE PARKING ISLAND.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO TREES OR SHRUBS EXISTING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONE CANOPY TREE AND FOUR ORNAMENTAL TREE.
THE LARGE CANOPY TREES WILL INTERFERE WITH THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINE.
THE LAST DEVIATION IS FOR THE BUILDING ARTICULATION FOR THE EAST ELEVATION.
THAT'S PARTICULARLY FOR THE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION.
NINETEEN-FOOT ARTICULATION IS REQUIRED ALONG WITH TWO FEET DEPTH.
PROPOSED, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION OF THIS TIME.
THE APPLICANT WILL RECONSTRUCT USING THE SAME BUILDING FOOTPRINT THEREFORE, ADDING HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION WILL CAUSE A HARDSHIP IN THE SITE LAYOUT.
THE APPLICANT REQUEST THE SUP TO BE IN EFFECT FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 30 YEARS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PD, APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAIL PLAN.
WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
FORTY-SEVEN LETTERS WERE SENT OUT, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
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THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER WELBORN.
>> THE CANOPY TREE ALONG DUCK CREEK, THAT'S ON THE SOUTH, I BELIEVE, WEST CORNER, HOW'S THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDING. THANK YOU.
>> YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING OR EXISTING SIGNAGE, WHAT DO THEY PLAN TO DO ON THAT?
>> IT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING FOR ANY DEVIATIONS AT THIS TIME.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING PULL SIGN WHICH THEY WILL REPHASE, BUT NOT ADD ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIDE.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY ASKED FOR A 30-YEAR SUP?
>> THAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER.
THAT'S WHAT THEY REQUESTED AND THAT'S FOR THEM TO ANSWER.
>> I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IN LOOKING AT THE SITE AND LOOKING AT THE NEW PLAN.
LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE RECONFIGURING THE PARKING LOT.
DUCK CREEK EVEN GIVE US THAT WIDER LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE.
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE PUSHED IT BACK INTO THE SIDE BUT THEY'RE SPENDING SOME MONEY TO REDO THIS, AREN'T THEY? THANK YOU.
>> LET'S SEE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AND CIVIL ENGINEERING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT NECESSARY, BUT WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST, AND PLEASE NAME AND ADDRESS.
FEEL LIKE AN OLD RADIO TOP SHOW.
HOPE YOU'RE THERE FOR A SECOND.
>> HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? MEMBERS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION.
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S HAVING A GREAT NIGHT AND A GREAT WORKING NIGHT.
[LAUGHTER] TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY DO 30 YEARS? IT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE I'M JUST A DESIGNER, BUT I KNOW THE OWNERS, AND I THINK THE OWNERS HAVE A PLAN.
THIS IS A LEASE, AND THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THAT [INAUDIBLE] TO STAY THERE FOR A WHILE.
HOPEFULLY, BUSINESS GETS BETTER.
IT'S A BRAND NEW LOOK FOR THIS FRANCHISE, FOR THIS FIRM, AND THEY HAVEN'T BUILT THAT MANY BUILDINGS YET.
IT'S A BRAND NEW LOOK AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS ALSO TO HAVE A BETTER BUSINESS FOR AT LEAST THE 30 YEARS.
ANOTHER REASON, AND THERE IS, OF COURSE, WITH THIS LOOK HERE JUST TO IMPROVE THE VIEW OF THE WHOLE CORNER, ALL THESE CROSSING STREETS AND STUFF.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
MY NAME IS AMANDA PALACIOS, AND I LIVE IN 4821 KINGFISHER LANE IN MESQUITE, TEXAS.
>> WELCOME. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
>> NO, JUST WE APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING US ON THE AGENDA, AND HOPEFULLY [OVERLAPPING] WILL BE LIKE THE BUILDING AND THE PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE ASKING YOU.
>> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, DISCUSSION, MOTION AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S MOTION BE MADE, NEED A THREE-PART MOTION, AMEND PD80-42, SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH AND DETAIL PLAN.
COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] PLEASE UNMUTE.
STILL MUTED. [LAUGHTER] WHOOP, YOU'RE BACK ON AGAIN, YOU HIT IT TWICE. THERE YOU GO.
>> [NOISE] I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, THE DETAIL PLAN, AND THE SUP FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH IN THE DETAIL PLAN.
>> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] TO APPROVE THE AMEND PD,
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THE SPECIALIST PROVISION FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH IN THE DETAIL PLAN, AND I SAW THAT FIRST, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS? GRAB YOUR SIGNS AND PLEASE VOTE.THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A NICE TIME. THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
[BACKGROUND] THE LAST THREE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.
[2.g. Consideration of the application of JDJR Engineers & Consultants, Inc., Jim Dewy Jr., requesting approval of a Change of Zoning from Community Retail (CR) District to aPlanned Development (PD) District to allow deviations for an existing pole sign and a newpylon sign. This property is located at 801 East Interstate Highway 30. (District 3) (File Z 20-46 - Zoning)]
[2.h. Consideration of the application of JDJR Engineers & Consultants, Inc., Jim Dewy Jr., requesting approval of a Specific Use Provision renewal to continue the Drive-Through,Restaurant Use and Fuel Pumps, Retail Use. This property is located at 801 East InterstateHighway 30. (District 3) (File Z 20-46 - Specific Use Provision)]
[2.i. Consideration of the application of JDJR Engineers & Consultants, Inc., Jim Dewy Jr., requesting approval of a Detail Plan for Community Retail Uses. This property is located at801 East Interstate Highway 30. (District 3) (File Z 20-46 – Detail Plan)]
ANOTHER TRIPLE PLAY HERE, FOLKS.CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF JDJR ENGINEERING AND CONSULTANTS INC. JIM DEWEY JR, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CHANGE OF ZONING FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, TO ALLOW DEVIATIONS FOR AN EXISTING CALL SIGN AND NEW PYLONS SIGN.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 801 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30.
NOW IS ITEM 2G, ITEM 2H IS CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF JDJR ENGINEERING AND CONSULTANTS INC, JIM DEWEY JR, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, RENEWAL TO CONTINUE THE DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT USE AND FUEL PUMP, FOR RETAIL USE.
SAME ADDRESS, AND ITEM 2I CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION JDJR ENGINEERING AND CONSULTANTS INC, JIM DEWEY JR, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE DETAIL PLAN FOR COMMUNITY USES.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED 801 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
>> THIS IS THE REQUEST AND IT'S FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SUP AND DETAIL PLAN.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.32 ACRES, AND HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
[OVERLAPPING] HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP.
[NOISE] SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR.
OVER HERE IS EAST I-30, AND OVER HERE IS ZION ROAD.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE ZION COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THERE IS A HOME OFFICE AND OVER HERE TO THE EAST IS A HOTEL.
PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ACROSS EAST I-30 OR ZONED LIGHT COMMERCIAL, AND A PORTION OF IT IS DEVELOPED WITH A MEDICAL OFFICE, AND THE REMAINING PORTION IS UNIMPROVED.
PROPERTY TO THE WEST ACROSS ZION ROAD IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 97-39, AND IT IS UNIMPROVED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, AND THE STAR IDENTIFIES THAT LOCATION.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PROVIDES A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES.
THE RETAIL SALES WITH GAS PUMP AND RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROPOSAL IS A REINVESTMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE TOP-LEFT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM.
EAST I-30. UPRIGHT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ACROSS EAST I-30, AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE LAYOUT.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THERE IS AN EXISTING SUP THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2007 AND IT WILL EXPIRE IN 2027, AND IT'S FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH USE, AS WELL AS GAS STATION FOR AUTOMOBILE AND FOR TRUCK FUELING.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH USE, AS WELL AS THE GAS STATION FOR BOTH AUTO AND TRUCK FEELING, AND THAT REQUIRES THE RENEWAL OF THE SUP.
THE APPLICANT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE TO NON-CONFORMING POLE SIGN, AND CONSTRUCT A NEW PYLON SIGN.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING POLE SIGN, AND THE LOCATION WILL NOT CHANGE.
THE APPLICANT JUST PROPOSES TO ADD MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
OVER HERE, AT THE BOTTOM IS THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE PYLON SIGN, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH THAT SIGN, RECONSTRUCT A NEW PYLON SIGN AT THE SAME LOCATION.
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HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE.HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.
HERE ARE THE EXISTING FUEL CANOPIES.
THIS IS FOR THE AUTO FUEL CANOPY AND TO THE RIGHT IS FOR THE TRUNK.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATION FOR THE POLE SIGN.
TO THE LEFT IS WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY, AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED POLE SIGN.
THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE POLE SIGN IS 75 FEET.
EXISTING SURFACE AREA IS 140 SQUARE FEET, AND THE PROPOSED HEIGHT WILL NOT CHANGE.
IT WILL STILL REMAIN 75 FEET, BUT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE SIGN AREA TO 650 SQUARE FEET AND THE SETBACK WILL NOT CHANGE.
IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 54 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE GDC DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY STANDARDS FOR A POLE SIGN BECAUSE NEW POLE SIGNS AREN'T ALLOWED PER THE GDC.
THIS IS THE ELEVATION FOR THE PYLON SIGN.
TO THE LEFT IS WHAT IS EXISTING AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED PYLON SIGN.
EXISTING HEIGHT IS 17.5 FEET, EXISTING SURFACE AREA IS 46 SQUARE FEET, AND SETBACK IS 30 FEET.
GDC REQUIRES A MAXIMUM OF 22 FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE PYLON SIGN, SURFACE AREA, MAXIMUM HAS TO BE 150 SQUARE FEET, AND THE SETBACK IS MINIMUM OF 20 FEET.
THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 27 FEET.
PROPOSED SURFACE AREA IS 136 SQUARE FEET, AND SETBACK IS 30 FEET.
THEY DO COMPLY WITH THE SURFACE AREA AND THE SETBACK, THEY ARE REQUESTING A DEVIATION FOR THE HEIGHT.
THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PER THE GDC IS 22 FEET, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING 27 FEET.
HERE IS THE SUMMARY TABLE FOR THE POLE SIGN.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE GDC BECAUSE NEW POLE SIGNS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
EXISTING HEIGHT IS 75 FEET, EXISTING SURFACE AREA IS 140 SQUARE FEET, AND SETBACK IS 54 FEET.
PROPOSED HEIGHT WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
THE SURFACE AREA THEY'RE PROPOSING IS 650 SQUARE FEET, AND THE SETBACK WILL NOT CHANGE EITHER.
THE APPLICANT CONTENTS, THE DEVIATION IS NECESSARY FOR ADVERTISEMENT, THE PROPOSED SIGN, WOULD ALLOW GREATER VISIBILITY FROM 190, AND EAST IH-30 CORRIDOR AND ZION ROAD.
THE SECOND ONE IS FOR THE PYLON SIGN.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR THE GDC IS 22 FEET, MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA IS 150 SQUARE FEET, THE SETBACK IS 20 FEET.
EXISTING IS 17.5 FEET, SURFACE AREA 46 SQUARE FEET, AND SETBACK IS 30 FEET.
PROPOSED HEIGHT WILL BE 27 FEET, SURFACE AREA IS 136 SQUARE FEET, AND A SETBACK IS 30 FEET.
THE APPLICANT CONTENDS A NEW AND IMPROVED PYLON SIGN TO BE BETTER DESIGN AND TO ALLOW ADVERTISEMENT FROM A FARTHER DISTANCE.
THE APPLICANT REQUEST THE SUP TO BE IN EFFECT FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 30 YEARS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE AND A SUP AND A DETAILED PLAN.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
WE DID SEND OUR NOTIFICATION LETTERS, 18 LETTERS WERE SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER WHICH WAS OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUESTS. NOW I'M DONE.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, ROZE.
>> I COULDN'T TELL WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS HOLDING UP THE POLE SIGN.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE CLEAR METAL, IS IT GOING TO BE COVERED WITH BRICK? THE PYLON LOOKS LIKE IT WAS WOOD.
THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE SPECIFIC MATERIAL FOR THAT.
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>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LETS BRINGS OUR APPLICANT.
WE'VE GOT MR. NELSON OR MR. VASQUEZ, EITHER ONE.
MELINDA, MISS NELSON. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I SHOULD READ THE FIRST NAMES TOO AND THEN, NICK VASQUEZ.
>> HELLO, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR ALL TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT.
ON THE CALL, WE ALSO HAVE MRS. MELINDA NELSON, WHO HANDLES.
>> IF I CAN GET YOUR ADDRESS TO. THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I CAN TRY AND SHARE.
>> MOHAMED SHERIFF, 3412, AVILA ROAD, AVILA, TEXAS 75154.
>> I REPRESENT VICTRON ENERGY.
HERE WITH ME AS WELL ON THE CALL, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, MRS. MELINDA NELSON, WHO HANDLES PANNING AT OUR COMPANY, AS WELL AS MR. NICK VASQUEZ, WHO HANDLES CONSTRUCTION.
TO GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON THE SITE AND EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE ON THE PROPERTY.
ABOUT 221/2 YEARS AGO, MY FAMILY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY OUT OF BANKRUPTCY.
IT HAD BEEN FLOUNDERING THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
MY OPINION PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN EYESORE.
WE ARE THE LARGEST CONVINCED FAMILY OWNED OPERATOR AND FUEL DISTRIBUTOR IN TEXAS, WE'RE HEADQUARTERED IN WAXAHACHIE.
SO WE PURCHASED A CONVENIENCE STORE OUT OF BANKRUPTCY, AND HAD A VERY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITHIN THE CITY AND WENT THROUGH A SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING PROCESS, TO TRY TO BRING THIS STORE UP TO MODERN STANDARDS AND TO CODE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO WORK AND NOT MAKE SO MANY CHANGES THAT WE ELIMINATE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE AND CAN NO LONGER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE USE AND REMODEL THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IT THE MOST THAT IT CAN BE.
WE TOOK SEVERAL MEASURES TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY.
WE WERE ZONED FOR THAT, SO WE DID NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH A PNG OR SUP PROCESS FOR THAT.
IT'S MY FIRST TIME SEEING THIS.
WE ADDED A SONIC DRIVE IN RESTAURANT WHERE THEIR FRANCHISEES WE OPERATE IT.
WE ELIMINATED SEVERAL DIESEL LANES, I HAD A BELIEVE SEVEN DIESEL LANES.
WE BROUGHT THEM DOWN BEFORE TO MAKE TRAFFIC EASIER TO NAVIGATE.
WE'RE PUTTING MASONRY PRODUCT ALL ALONG THE STORE AND JUST GENERALLY DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER.
WHENEVER WE PURCHASED AND WHILE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I NEGLECTED TO MENTION WE'RE ALMOST DONE IN A REBUILDING AND REMODELING THE STORES.
IF YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO DRIVE BY, WE ANTICIPATE BEING READY TO OPEN UP WITHIN JUST TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT YOU WERE SHOWED, THE LOCATION IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SIGNAGE, THERE ON THE PROPERTY WOULD FALL UNDER THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.
THERE WAS ALREADY AN EXISTING 80 FOOT TALL POLE AND PYLON SIGN AT THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, WHENEVER WE SUBMITTED OUR SIGN, OUR PERMIT FOR SIGNAGE, WE DISCOVERED THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY NEED AN SUP IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THE CURRENT HIGH-RISE SIGN IS 20 TO 30 PLUS YEARS OLD.
I'M I ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN?
>> I BELIEVE YOU'VE THE CAPABILITY.
>> OKAY. LET ME DO THAT IF I MAY.
WHENEVER WE PURCHASE THE STORE, THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE CONDITION OF THE PYLON ON THE HIGH-RISE, NOT TOO VISUALLY APPEALING.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WE ACTUALLY TOOK DOWN THAT HUGE BEHEMOTH EXXON DIESEL, A BILLBOARD ADVERTISING ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A TORNADO COMING IN AND WE WERE PRETTY CONCERNED AND REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE HIGH-RISE SIGN.
WE'RE CONCERNED THAT WOULD FALL OFF AND HURT SOMEBODY.
AGAIN, AT THE TIME WE DID NOT THINK THAT REMOVING THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO COME BACK FOR THE SUP AND WOULD IN EFFECT ELIMINATE THE GRANDFATHER.
BUT THE ORIGINAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT SIGN, WHENEVER WE PURCHASED THE LOCATION WAS SOMETHING LIKE 7-750 SQUARE FEET.
TODAY WE'RE APPLYING FOR WHAT'S TECHNICALLY A VARIANCE FOR ABOUT 650 SQUARE FEET.
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OUR INTENT WOULD BE, WE WOULD COMPLETELY TAKE THE SIGN DOWN AND PUT IN A BRAND NEW HIGH-RISE PULL SIGN, THAT WOULD CONFORM TO MODERN CODE AND AMENITIES.THE OTHER VARIANTS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A CURRENT CITY ORDINANCES DON'T ALLOW MORE THAN 22 FEET FOR A PYLON SIGN IN THERE.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. THE SITE IS VERY SMALL.
IT'S ABOUT 2.5 ACRES TO BE ABLE TO ROUTE THE AUTO TRAFFIC AND THE TRUCK TRAFFIC EFFECTIVELY.
WE TRY NOT TO HAVE, BUT WITH A TRUCK DRIVER AND THE SOCCER MALL COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SAME ACCESSES AND DRIVES INTERFERING WITH EACH OTHER AND CAUSING A TRAFFIC HAZARD.
WHENEVER WE MEASURE THE HEIGHT OF THE PYLON SIGN OR THE MONUMENT SIGN, WE FOUND THAT AT 22 FEET, IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY SEE THE SIGN AND BE ROUTED EFFECTIVELY BETWEEN AUTOS AND TRUCKS WHENEVER YOU COMING IN OFFER BY 30.
AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, THE ON-RAMP TO THE, SORRY, THE OFF-RAMP TO THE PROPERTY IS VERY LONG.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO SEE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE HIGH-RISE THERE.
I'M AFRAID WE'D BE PUT IN A DIFFICULT SPOT BETWEEN BEING IN AN UNTENABLE POSITION BUSINESS WISE BECAUSE CUSTOMERS COULDN'T SEE THE SIGN.
HAVING A HIGH-RISE THERE THAT WE BELIEVE NOT NECESSARILY STRUCTURALLY SOUND, THAT CAN PRESENT A DANGER ONE DAY.
WE'RE HERE AND ASKING FOR THAT VARIANCE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT YOU-ALL MAY HAVE.
>> ALL RIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO UNSHARE YOUR SCREEN.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER EDWARDS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE?
>> YOU MUTED YOURSELF AGAIN, COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.
OH, AND YOU TOO COMMISSIONER DOLTON?
>> COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, AND ROSE, AND DOLTON, SORRY.
>>THAT 75 FOOT SIGN, I HAVE AND WATCHED IT AND HATED IT.
HE'S GOING TO PUT BLAZER 75 FOOT UP THERE, WHICH DOESN'T BOTHER ME, BUT HE GOT RID OF THAT GREAT BIG TRUCK.
[LAUGHTER] I HATE THE TALL SIGNS, BUT HE IS [INAUDIBLE] , WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE, SO I'LL BE FOR IT.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER DOLTON.
>> I'M JUST OBSERVING THE 75 FOOT POLE, IS THAT JUST PAINTED AND WE'LL LET PAINT LAST TWO WEEKS OR TWO YEARS.
THE PYLON SIGN, IS THAT GOING METAL OR WOOD? WHAT DO YOU HAVE PLANNED?
>> NICK VASQUEZ, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK AND BE INCORRECT, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER COULD ACCURATELY ANSWER TO THE MATERIAL.
I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT IN METAL BUT NICK, ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK?
>> I THINK VASQUEZ IS WORKING, I'M BRINGING HIM IN AND AS HE'S COMING IN I'LL ASK HIM FOR HIS NAME AND ADDRESS TOO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE HE JUST NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND.
>> I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. THANK YOU.
>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS NICK VASQUEZ, I'M AT 4851 MONROE COURT IN MIDLOTHIAN.
THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS THERE ON THE HIGH RISE POLE SIGN, THAT IS A STEEL METAL PIPING STRUCTURE AND IT GETS PRIMER COATED AND PAINTED WITH INDUSTRIAL PAINT.
WE GO BACK ABOUT EVERY FIVE, SIX YEARS AND TOUCH THEM UP, BUT IT WILL NOT BE PAINTED WITH JUST YOUR RESIDENTIAL LATEX PAINT.
IT IS A COMMERCIAL GRADE PAINT THAT WE DID PUT ON THE POLE.
AS FOR THE PYLON SIGN, THE MAIN STRUCTURE THAT HOLDS UP THE SIGN IS OF COURSE OF METAL, BUT WE ARE WRAPPING THOSE METAL POLES WITH A BRICK MASONRY THAT MATCHES THE BUILDING.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
>> APPEARS TO HAVE DONE SO, COMMISSIONER DOLTON.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH OUR ILLUSTRIOUS PRESTON EDWARDS,
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COMMISSIONER FOR THIS DISTRICT, CONCERNING HEALTH SCIENCE, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE.I WANT TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION.
I COME DOWN INTERSTATE 30 AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK WESTBOUND FROM ROCKWELL.
I GO TO CHURCH OUT THERE AND I TAKE THE BOBTOWN ROAD EXIT, AND I CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT SIGN, UNTIL I'VE ALREADY PASSED THE BOBTOWN ROAD EXIT.
THEREFORE, I WOULD NOT MAKE A DECISION TO GO TO THAT STATION BASED UPON A SIGN I CAN SEE.
IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND ON 190 TO INTERCHANGE INTO GOING TOWARDS DALLAS OR ROCK [INAUDIBLE] ONE, YOU SEE THAT SIGN, BUT YOU HAVE NO EXIT POINT AT THAT MOMENT TO GO TO THAT STATION.
I JUST CAN'T WONDER ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THAT SIGN.
HOW MUCH GOOD IT'S GOING TO DO THEM IN THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
>> MAY I ENTER A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER DOLTON?
>> FOR YOUR CONCERNS OR I SHOULD SAY.
THANK YOU. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE THAT SIGN IN TIME TO GO AND MAKE THE EXIT, AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE SIGN.
MANY OF THE SIGNS, AT MOST OF OUR STORES IS THAT WAY.
THE INTENT OF THE SIGN IS TO CREATE VISIBILITY FOR THE STORE.
THE GRADING OF THE HIGHWAY RELATIVE TO THE STORE IS SUCH THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT OVER THE BRIDGE, YOU CANNOT SEE THAT THE STORE IS THERE, IS VERY LOW WHEN THE GRADE DIFFERENCE HAS TO BE 40, 50 FEET OR MORE.
THE INTENT OF THE SIGN IS, AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU'VE OBSERVED, YOU GO BACK AND FORTH FROM ROCKWELL ALL THE TIME, IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY THAT'S A LAYMAN, YOU WOULD KNOW, OH, THERE'S AN X THERE AND THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE COMING THROUGH, YOU'D BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND SAY, "HEY, IF I TAKE THIS X, I KNOW THERE'S A GAS STATION HERE." I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS OR WHAT EXACTLY IS, BUT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THERE AND PARTICULARLY AS A TRUCK FUELING LOCATION, TRUCKERS VERY OFTEN TAKE THE SAME ROUTE OVER AND OVER AND OVER ON A DAILY BASIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
THEY MEMORIZE AND LEARN THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN STOP AND FUEL.
AGAIN, THE INTENT IS TO INCREASE VISIBILITY AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE LOCATION, NOT NECESSARILY TO HAVE YOU SEE IT IN TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR EXIT.
WE ALSO HAVE BILLBOARDS THAT WE USE TO TRY AND PROMOTE PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO PLAN AHEAD OF TIME TO MAKE THE EXIT.
BUT THE BILLBOARDS AREN'T NEARLY AS EFFECTIVE AS THE HIGH-RISE.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, DID YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP? NO? OKAY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S A PROBLEM SITE, OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE GONE BANKRUPT. THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY IN IT.
I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN.
HE'S RIGHT, IT'S NOT A, "OH, I GOT TO STOP HERE NEXT TIME SIGN." THAT OFF RAMP BLOCKS.
AS YOU COME IN ONE DIRECTION, YOU DON'T SEE IT UNTIL, "OH, THERE'S A GAS STATION BACK THERE." ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ONE?
>> I DIDN'T THINK SO, BUT I FIGURED I'D ASK.
IT'S WHEN I DON'T ASK THAT WE DO SO.
SORRY. [INAUDIBLE] WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR DISCUSSION? AGAIN, THAT'S THE THREE-PART APPROVAL OF A PD, APPROVAL OF AN SUP FOR DRIVE-THROUGH FUEL PUMPS AND DETAIL PLAN. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL TO DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, TO ALLOW DEVIATION OF THE POLE SIGNS AND THE MONUMENT SIGN AND APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PER DIVISION, RENEWAL TO CONTINUE THE DRIVE-THROUGH, RESTAURANT USE AND FUEL PUMPS AND RETAIL USE.
APPROVE THE DETAILED PLAN FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] COMMISSIONER DOLTON.
>> YEAH, CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> QUESTION FOR STAFF. WE ARE DOING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM
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COMMUNITY RETAIL THAT CONFORMS WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING FOR THE AREA.THE DETAIL PLAN IT LOOKS APPROVED FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES, SO THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING FOR THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY IS FOR THE PYLON SIGN.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS?
>> SURE. THIS IS THE BASE ZONING [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THEY'RE ESTABLISHING THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW THE DEVIATIONS FOR THAT POLE SIGN AND THE PYLON SIGN.
>> APPARENTLY THE BASE ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE DEVIATIONS IN THE SIGNAGE WHERE PD HERE, YOU'RE WRITING YOU'RE OWN ORDINANCE, SO THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT THAT'S CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ALSO, WHILE THE APPLICANT IS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CURRENT SUP AND EXTENDING THAT OUT 30 YEARS, I BELIEVE.
THAT IS PER THEIR REQUEST AS WELL AND THE SUPS FOR THE FUEL PUMPS.
>> LOOKS I'D ANSWER THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
NOW, I HAD A MOTION, NOT A COMMOTION, BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS AND I SAW A BUNCH OF HANDS GO UP FOR A SECOND.
FIRST ONE AGAIN BY COMMISSIONER DOLTON.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS TO APPROVE THE PD, APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND APPROVE THE DETAIL PLAN, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLTON, ALL IN FAVOR, SEEING NO DISCUSSION.
THERE WE GO. THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU.
>> GOOD LUCK WITH IT, [INAUDIBLE] I'VE DRIVEN IN THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO GET GAS SIP [NOISE] IT'S ENGINE SHUT DOWN.
WELL, THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, SO UNTIL OUR MEETING IN MARCH 8TH, WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.