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BUTTER.

AND THE FIRST ITEM

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ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL

[Library Board on April 22, 2021]

OF THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MINUTE MEETING, WHICH WAS MARCH THE EIGHTH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? NOT THAT I KNOW.

NO APPROVALS.

CAN WE GO AHEAD AND OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED? I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED YOUR SECOND, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

THE NEXT ITEM WE START ON ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

AND THE FIRST THING IS TO CONSIDER THE ELIMINATION OF LIBRARY FINES.

YES.

UM, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN IN JUST A SECOND, BUT, UM, WANTED TO SET THIS UP BRIEFLY OR CONCISELY AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ELIMINATING LIBRARY FUNDS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, SOME OTHER LIBRARIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH AND ELIMINATE THOSE BLACKBERRY FUNDS.

UM, LAST YEAR, RIGHT ABOUT THIS TIME, ACTUALLY IT WAS IN MARCH.

WE STOPPED, UM, ASSESSING FUNDS ON LIBRARY MATERIALS THAT WERE RETURNED LATE, UH, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, SINCE WE WERE CLOSING DOWN, WORKING FROM HOME AND DOING ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE OF COVID SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE KIND OF CALLED IT OUR, UM, PILOT PROJECT FOR, UM, FOR THIS PURPOSE AS WELL.

AND WE'VE SEEN SOME, WE'VE SEEN SOME GOOD THINGS HAPPEN OUT OF NOT ASSESSING LIBRARY FUNDS DURING THIS TIME AND FORGIVING SOME LIBRARY FUNDS.

SO PART OF WHAT WE DID AND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL READ BY NOW ALL 288 PAGES OF IT, LOOK AT THE AG CENTER HERE.

SO, BUT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO LOOK AT OUR POLICIES AND THE PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS, INCLUDING ASSESSING LIBRARY FUNDS AND TRYING TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF ELIMINATING ANY BARRIERS, UM, OR ANYTHING THAT MAY PRESENT A BARRIER FROM SOMEONE USING THE LIBRARY IN LIBRARY FUNDS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ONE OF THOSE REALLY BIG BARRIERS THAT MAY KEEP SOMEBODY AND HAS KEPT SOME PEOPLE FROM USING LIBRARY SERVICES.

SO WITH LIKE TWO OR I'D LIKE TO FORMALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THIS YEAR WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, AND, UM, STARTED THE CONVERSATION WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD, HAVE A RECOMMENDATION MADE BY MAYOR JEAN.

SO WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER, GET HIS, UM, BUY-IN AND FEEDBACK, AND THEN TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL ALONG WITH THE BUDGET IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION OF BECOMING A FAN FREE LABRIE.

SO I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK.

I SHOULD SAY ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TONIGHT.

UM, THE BULK OF IT IS IN THAT, UM, MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT AS WELL.

UM, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND REFER TO IT, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A REALLY BIG GRISH TO, UH, FOR PUBLIC LIBRARIES TO CONSIDER GOING FINE FREE IN A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UM, OH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I HEAR A LOSS, BUT I'VE BEEN SAYING A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY THEIR FINES.

AND SO THEY LOSE ACCESS TO LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE FINES THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR ACCOUNT.

THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WILL JUST LOSE THEM FOREVER MEAN WE LOSE THE, THE MATERIALS BECAUSE THEY DON'T THERE'S SHAME AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND RETURN THEIR LIBRARY MATERIALS BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERDUE AND THEN THEY JUST WON'T COME BACK.

THEY'RE EMBARRASSED TO COME BACK.

SO I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IN THE LAST YEAR OF GOING FIND FREE, UM, OR TESTING THAT OUT IS THAT WE'VE HAD A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME BACK.

UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY'VE COME BACK TO USING THE LIBRARIES BECAUSE THEY'VE, WE'VE FORGIVEN THAT FINE OFF THEIR ACCOUNT, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY GET

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A FRESH START AND A NEW START.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE CONTINUED TO COME BACK THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, UM, AT MIDWINTER 2019, DID, UH, FORMALLY ADOPT A RESOLUTION OR MADE A RESOLUTION ON MONETARY ELABORATE FINES AS ESSENTIAL OR AS A FORM OF SOCIAL INEQUITY.

UM, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE ALA COUNCIL ON JANUARY 27TH OF 2019 THAT, UH, PROMOTING THE REMOVAL OF BARRIERS TO LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES, PARTICULARLY FEES AND OVERDUE CHARGES.

AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE REMOVE OUR FEES, BUT I JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON LIBRARY FUNDS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC LIBRARIES, WE OFFER FREE ACCESS TO INFORMATION, FREE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, PROGRAMMING, UM, AND SPINES DO CREATE A BARRIER IN PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE RESOURCES, UM, INFORMATION AND PROGRAMS. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS IN THE LIBRARY.

WE HAVE LIBRARY FEES, UH, WHICH COSTS US MONEY, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SERVICE.

AND WE HAVE REASSESS LIBRARY FINES.

SO OUR FEES, WE DO CHARGE A REPLACEMENT FEE FOR ANYONE WHO'S LOST THEIR LIBRARY CARD.

THEY NEED TO GET A NEW LIBRARY CARD.

WE PAID FOR THE LIBRARY CARDS TO COME IN AND WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU FIRST, ONE'S FREE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS DOWNLOAD IT ON YOUR APP, BUT IF YOU NEED A NEW ONE, WE DO CHARGE A $2 REPLACEMENT CHARGE, FAXING SERVICES.

THERE'S A CHARGE FOR THE FAXING SERVICE OF A DOLLAR 75 FOR THE FIRST PAGE AND A DOLLAR FOR SUBSEQUENT PAGES.

OUR PHOTOCOPYING AND OUR PRINTING IS 15 CENTS A PAGE FOR BLACK AND WHITE 50 CENTS FOR COLORS, BECAUSE THERE'S A COST FOR CONSUMABLES.

THERE'S NO COSTS FOR SCANNING A DOCUMENT IN AND EMAILING IT TO YOURSELF OR EMAILING IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, UM, LOST OR DAMAGED ITEMS. IF YOU LOSE A LIBRARY ITEM, YOU'VE CHECKED IT OUT OR IT'S RETURNED DAMAGE.

WE DO A CHARGE THE COST OF, OR FOR THE COST OF THE ITEM.

AND THEN WE DO ASSESS A LOST OR DAMAGED PROCESSING FEE OF $5 TO THAT ITEM AS WELL.

SO THAT'S FOR US TO HELP RECRUIT THOSE, THAT STAFF TIME FOR THE PROCESSING REORDERING, GETTING IT BACK IN, GETTING IT SHELF READY FOR THE NEXT PATRON TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE.

SO THOSE, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE IN GREEN ARE ALL THINGS THAT WOULD STILL STAY AND THAT WE WOULD STILL CHARGE THE PATRON.

UM, BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL CONSUMABLES, THERE'S, THERE'S A COST, IT'S A CITY PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT US TO CONSIDER AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THE ELIMINATION OF LIBRARY FANDOMS, UM, TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF, SHOULD WE CHARGE FOR A NON-RESIDENT FEE AS WELL? UM, WE CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TONIGHT, OR WE CAN WAIT FOR A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT CURRENTLY WE PAY AND WE'LL CAN CORRECT ME JUST IN THE STATE REPORT.

I THINK IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT A 22 TO $23 PER CAPITA, UM, TAXES GO, UM, $23 PER CAPITA FOR LIBRARY SERVICES.

AND SO SOME OF THE THOUGHT IS IF WE GO BECOME A FINE FREE LIBRARY, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT WE BRING INTO THE LIBRARY INTO THE CITY BY ELIMINATING LIBRARY FINES, WHICH CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO $120,000 A YEAR.

UM, WOULD WE WANT TO CONSIDER PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, A NOMINAL FEE FOR USING OUR LIBRARY SERVICES RICHARDSON DOES THERE'S A LOT OF LIBRARY SYSTEMS THAT DO, AND I WILL SAY GOING BACK TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, BE IN AGREEMENT ON IS THERE ARE SOME LIBRARIES SYSTEMS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THEY CHARGE EVERYBODY.

IF BE, IF THEY'RE A NON-RESIDENT TO USE, THERE ARE OTHER LIBRARY SYSTEMS, UM, LIKE MESQUITE, THEY DON'T, IF YOU DON'T CHARGE THEIR RESIDENTS A FEE, THEY WON'T CHARGE OUR RESIDENT.

AND SO THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT MADE WITH SYSTEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T CHARGE US, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU AND WE'RE ALL GOOD, BUT ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT SCHOOL CHILDREN OR STUDENTS WHO WERE IN GI SD.

YOU'RE GOING TO OUR SCHOOLS THAT INCORPORATES, YOU KNOW, GARLAND SAXY AND RAUL LYNN.

WELL, WE MAY WANT TO GRANDFATHER THOSE LIBRARIES IN, OR THEIR CITIES.

AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE KIDS THAT GO TO GSD FROM THOSE CITIES.

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SO I WILL SAY MY DAUGHTERS BOTH WENT TO RICHARDSON SCHOOLS SO THEY COULD USE THE LIBRARY, EVEN THOUGH WE LIVED IN GARLAND WITHOUT I THINK DALLAS DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT, THAT NON-RESIDENT FEE IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX THING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT.

IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT SEPARATELY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IT TONIGHT WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FEES AND FINES, THAT CONSIDERATION OF A NON-RESIDENT FEE IS ALSO IN OUR MASTER PLAN AS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF, AND JUST TO REVIEW RIGHT NOW, WE DO ASSESS, UM, WE ASSESS FINES ON OVERDUE MATERIALS, UM, IS THAT 30 CENTS A DAY, 30 CENTS A DAY PER ITEM, A MAXIMUM OF $10.

AND THEN THE AUDIO VISUAL, THE BOOKS ON CD, OR THE DVDS THAT YOU CHECK OUT IS A DOLLAR PER DAY PER ITEM, UP TO $10.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A HERE, YOU, YOU CHECK OUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS, YOU KEEP THEM OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG.

YOU CAN RACK UP A PRETTY GOOD, FINE IN A HURRY.

UM, THAT'S A GREAT POSSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO DO.

KATHLEEN REMINDED ME WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE NON-RESIDENT FEE, WE, WE HAVE ALWAYS KEPT, UH, WHEN WE PARTICIPATED OR WHEN NETTLES WAS STILL ALIVE AND THRIVING, THE NORTHEAST TEXAS LIBRARY SYSTEM, AND THAT CONSORTIUM WE'VE ALWAYS KEPT THAT SERVICE AREA, WHICH EXTENDS ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, WHAT IS IT, KATHLEEN, OKLAHOMA, ARKANSAS THERE'S, UH, EAST TO LOUISIANA.

SO IT'S, IT'S A GIANT, UM, SERVICE AREA.

UH, THE BULK OF THE PATRONS THAT USE IT ARE WITHIN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT WE DO THE BULK OR IN THE DFW METROPLEX AREA.

BUT THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY DISBANDING THAT SERVICE AREA AND, AND REDUCING THAT SERVICE AREA OF WHO GETS THAT, UH, LIBRARY CARD AT NO CHARGE.

WE DO HAVE THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SEVERAL CITIES OVER, UM, NOT WEST OF DALLAS, BUT GOING EAST OUTSIDE OF, UH, SAXY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE MURPHY, WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF, UH, WE HAVE ROCKWALL.

WE HAVE, UH, SO THEY DO, IT'S NOT JUST OUR SURROUNDING, UM, CITIES.

IT GOES, IT GOES OUT.

SO PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US FOR ONE THING.

THEY LIKE OUR DIGITAL, UH, BOOK COLLECTION.

AND WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT.

SO, AND LIKE KAREN SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT, IF IT IS INSTITUTED, IF IT IS APPROVED, UH, SOME SORT OF A RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE LIBRARIES THAT THEY DON'T CHARGE US, WE DON'T CHARGE THEM, BUT THAT'S FOR LATER.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO, TO MENTION THAT WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THANK YOU, KATHLEEN.

UM, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINES OR FEES, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

ONE WITH THE ELIMINATION OF LIBRARY FUNDS A BIT TOO, POSSIBLY ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL FEE FOR NON-RESIDENT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR A LIBRARY CARD.

NOW THERE ARE HURDLES THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH ALONG THE WAY.

ONE, YOU KNOW, IS THE LIBRARY BOARD.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND I WOULD PREFER, YOU KNOW, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AS THE LIBRARY BOARD TO SPEAKING WITH SPEED CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE HE, YOU KNOW, BRIAN'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF US DOING THIS AND, UM, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO BE ON BOARD WITH IT BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT SHOT AND IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO START CONSIDERING IT IN APRIL AND MAY OF THIS YEAR.

SO WE CAN MAKE THAT A CASE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT CASE TO, UH, COUNSEL DOWN THE ROAD, KAREN, SINCE IT'S THE LAST, UH, MONEY COMING IN,

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WHAT IS YOUR FEELING WITH ABOUT THE COUNCIL? DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL SAY NO, WE NEED THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? I THINK, HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S A TRICKY QUESTION.

IF YOU, IF WE HAD TAKEN THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, I THINK, A MUCH EASIER DECISION TO MAKE, BUT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE POTENTIALLY DOES OR DOES NOT DO WITH HOW THEY CAN FIND CITIES AND REVENUES THAT THAT CITIES CAN, UM, BE IN CONTROL OF IT.

I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.

I WILL SAY THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH ABOUT THIS, OR WHO BROUGHT UP GOING FUND FREE, HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF GOING FROM FREE IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AND YOU SEE HOW MANY CHILDREN WE HAVE, SEE HOW MANY SENIORS WE HAVE FIXED INCOMES AND PEOPLE WHO WERE LIVING ON REALLY LOW WAGES ARE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

I THINK IT, IT HELPS THOSE FAMILIES.

IT HELPS THOSE KIDS AND THIS HOUSEHOLDS MORE THAN, THAN ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, AND THEN I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, OTHER FOND FREE LIBRARIES IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA, UM, WE HAVE THIS LIST HERE AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

WE HAVE, UM, THE FOLKMAN WHO GOES THROUGH AND DOES A, UH, FEE ASSESSMENT AND UPDATES THAT WITH A WHOLE HOST OF DIFFERENT LIBRARIES WITHIN THE METROPLEX.

AND WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT LIST.

UM, DALLAS FORT WORTH, IRVING, THE SKEET PLANO, UH, CAPELL SAXY MCKINNEY FRISCO.

DIDN'T HAVE ALL GONE FROM THREE, THE BIG ONES TO NOTE ON HERE, YOU KNOW, OUR DALLAS FORT WORTH IRVING AND PLAYING.

AND I SAW A RECOMMENDATION BY THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION.

YES, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN BEHIND AND FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT KAREN HAS MENTIONED, JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH COMING IN AND USING US.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT SOMETHING OVER THEIR HEAD.

I MEAN, I I'LL USE MY MOTHER AS AN EXAMPLE.

MY MOTHER HAD BEEN A LIBRARY NOW FOR SO LONG.

I'VE TRIED TO GET HER TO GO TO A PUBLIC LIBRARY AND SHE'LL GO, BUT SHE ALWAYS GETS SO NERVOUS ABOUT I'VE GOT, GOTTA RETURN MY ITEMS ON TIME.

THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE ME A LIBRARY.

SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, SHE IS ONE OF MANY PEOPLE WHO THAT IS.

THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT IT KEEPS HER FROM USING THE LIBRARY.

UH, AND I WILL GLADLY RETURN HER MATERIALS FOR HER THAT THAT'S A ROADBLOCK WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH TOGETHER PATENTLY YET.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, I MEAN, I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF CHILDREN.

I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF THEME LASERS, KATHLEEN, AND WE'LL HAVE TO THAT.

IT, IT REALLY IS A BARRIER FOR THEM.

AND IT'S MAKING A DECISION OF, DO I PAY THE LIBRARY FINE, OR, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE LIBRARY FINE.

AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME THIS LONG TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE DO FORGIVE AND HELP WHERE WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARTS ARE THE REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, AGREE TO WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD.

KAREN, HOW, HOW DO YOU NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE FORGOT TO BRING BACK THEIR, UH, THEIR LIBRARY ITEM? DO YOU SEND THEM A NOTE OR DO YOU DO ANYTHING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT THEIR BOOK IS DUE? WE DO.

AND I THINK I MAY PASS THIS WHENEVER THE KATHLEEN, I KNOW WE SEND OUT A LETTER THAT YOU HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE OUT THAT ARE OVERDUE.

UM, BUT I THINK WE ALSO, IF YOU HAVE LIBRARY ELLS, UM, AND EVEN THE PHONE SYSTEM, WE CALL IT, REMIND YOU OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT CHECKED OUT DUE DATES.

YOU CAN ELECT TO HAVE AN EMAIL OR A TEXT MESSAGE SENT TO YOU FOR THAT.

AND I SHOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UM, YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.

WE, THIS DOES NOT REMOVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CARDHOLDER OF RETURNING THE MATERIALS.

IF YOU DON'T RETURN THE MATERIALS, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET CHARGED THE FEE FOR A LOST ITEM.

AND YOU'RE STILL ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT, THAT LAST ITEM.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, NONE OF THAT CHANGES, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S EITHER 60 DAYS OR 90 DAYS AFTER AN ITEM IS OVERDUE, THAT YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY CHARGED FOR IT.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL OF THESE CHANCES TO BRING IT BACK.

WE'VE TRIED TO CONTACT YOU.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ASSUME AT THAT POINT THAT IT'S A

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LOSS AND WE CHARGE FOR THE ITEM.

IF YOU BRING IT BACK AND IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TAKEN OFF OF YOUR LIBRARY ACCOUNT OR YOUR, THAT FINE IS TAKEN OFF OF YOUR ACCOUNT.

UM, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CARD HOLDER OF HAVING TO KEEP THE ITEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THE ITEMS AND RETURNING THE ITEMS TO THE LIBRARY.

I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ONE MORE THING I WAS GOING TO ADD ABOUT THIS.

OH, UH, A LOT OF LIBRARIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS, AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME BIG ONES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE DONE THIS GOODNESS OF PROBABLY FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS AGO.

AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN CASE STUDIES ON SOME OF LIBRARIES.

NOW THEY HAVE FOUND THEY CIRCULATE MANY MORE PHYSICAL ITEMS NOW THAN THEY DID BEFORE.

AND THEY'RE SEEING THE RETURN OF A LOT OF PATRONS WHO HAVE NOT COME BACK TO USE THEM.

THEY'VE ALSO COMMENTED THAT THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF OLDER MATERIALS RETURNED.

THEY'VE GONE FROM FREE FROM PEOPLE FEELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY.

I CAN RETURN THE ITEMS AND THERE'S, I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR RETURNING THE ITEMS. WE'LL GET MY HAND SLAPPED FOR RETURNING THE ITEMS NOW.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO IT'S BRIDGING, IT'S MAKING PEOPLE FEEL MORE WELCOME AND MORE RELAXED WITH COMING IN AND USING THE RESOURCES OF THE LIBRARY.

UM, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE ANY DOCUMENTATION.

THERE IS SOME DOCUMENTATION IN THE PLAN ITSELF.

THERE'S ONE OF THE, UM, UH, TENDENCIES THAT HAVE IT'S THE, THE ALA, UM, RESOLUTION FROM 2019, UM, THAT THEY CAME UP WITH AND VOTED AND APPROVED.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND THEN POSSIBLY BRING THIS BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND A RECOMMENDATION BY THE BOARD IN MAY OR EARLY JUNE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IS.

OKAY.

SOMEBODY SPEAKED UP, WHICH I HAVE NO FOR MY LIBRARY AND I DON'T CHARGE FEES.

ALTHOUGH I'VE LOST A LOT OF ITEMS, EVEN WITH YOUR NAME AND THEM, YOU LOSE A LOT OF ITEMS BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I LEND THEM TO.

THEY CIRCULATION ON SMALL LIBRARY BOOKS.

I CAN COUNT THE ONES THAT I ENJOYED READING, BUT WHEN I EVER WENT BACK TO FIND THEM, SOMEBODY HAD RIPPED THEM OFF BECAUSE THEY WERE SMALL BOOKS.

SO LET'S HOPE THIS CIRCULATION BRINGS IN FOLKS WHO KIND OF HIDE THOSE THINGS AND WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM SHOULD BE BACK IN CIRCULATION, VERY SMALL BOOKS, BUT BOY, THEY GO, OKAY.

YES, MA'AM KATHLEEN.

THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME LIKE ME, BUT WE HAD A PATRON YEARS AGO THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN WHAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT HE LIKED, BUT HE CHECKED OUT MANY BOOKS ON THAT SUBJECT AND HAD THE DISPLAY IN HIS HOUSE AS HIS LIBRARY TOOK A LITTLE LEGAL WRANGLING.

YOU REMEMBER THAT? KATHLEEN? OH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF NERVE.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ME.

WE'RE GOING TO COME OVER THERE AND CHECK ALL THOSE BOOKS.

MY MOTHER'S CHECKED THEM OUT.

SO ARE YOUR FILE BY THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM? UH, THEY'RE ALPHABETICAL, ACCORDING TO GENRE.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE GOT SOME, ANY KAMIYAH I'M FOR IT MYSELF? WELL, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TOO, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE A CASE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE LIBRARY ARE ALREADY SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY, UH, WITH INDIRECT OR DIRECT TAXES, UM, UH, WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT FIND SPRING IN, UH, A SIX FIGURE NUMBER.

AND WHILE THAT'S NOT ENORMOUS IN THE SCOPE OF THE CITY BUDGET, IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

IF YOU HAD AN EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU COULD HIRE A PERSON, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU LOSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW THAT YOU WOULD LOSE A PERSON,

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BUT THAT MONEY HAS COME FROM SOMEWHERE.

SO NOW ON THE, AND I REALIZE THE FEES AND THE FINES ARE DIFFERENT.

UM, MY, MY GUT REACTION TO FEES IS THAT IF I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO USE A LIBRARY IN ANOTHER AREA, I'M WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND, AND THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IF I WANT TO BUY, IF I WANT A LIBRARY CARD FOR A SYSTEM THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THROUGH TAXES, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND FREE AND HAVE LOTS OF RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS, ALL THE MONEY GOES AWAY, BUT NONE OF THE COSTS, AND IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, I'M AN ACCOUNTANT AND MY DAY JOB, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? DOROTHY, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT NON-RESIDENT FEE EVENTUALLY THAT WAS IN DALLAS COUNTY AND THIS AREA WILL BE OVERCROWDED WITH PEOPLE.

AND THAT MAY BECOME A POINT THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND USING OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DON'T BELONG WITH.

AND THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY A RESIDENCY TO USE THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER.

SO, UH, I, WE LUCKED OUT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY A RESIDENT FEE BECAUSE THE WERE IN THE RICHEST IN SCHOOL, BUT THERE MAY BE CASES WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT TO ASK FOR RESIDENT FEES.

NON-RESIDENT FEE.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE NON-RESIDENT.

NO, I KNOW.

NO, NOT NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE, THINGS MAY GET CROWDED.

A SMALLER TOWN CAN'T AFFORD A LIBRARY, SO THEY COME OVER AND BORROW THE BOOKS.

SO IT MAY BECOME IN THE FUTURE.

SOMETHING WILL, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT, BUT THAT'S LONG DOWN THE LINE.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A TIME YET? OKAY.

LET'S GO TO B, TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION REPORT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, SO I'M GOING TO TRY SHARING MY SCREEN.

AND CAN YOU, DO YOU NEED TO RELEASE THAT TO ME? OKAY.

YOU DID.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.

SO, UH, I, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE JUST FILED.

UM, A FEW DAYS AGO, IT'S FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR, UH, 2019, 2020.

WE JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE STATISTICS, UH, THAT WE, UH, THAT WE, UH, THAT WE SUBMITTED AND JUST KIND OF WHAT THE TEXAS STATE, UH, THE ANNUAL REPORT IS FOR US.

SO THE BIG THING ABOUT THE T SLACK REPORT, UH, IS THAT, UH, AS WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN ACCREDITATION STANDARDS, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, SOME OF THE MAJOR STANDARDS ARE, UH, ONE IS CALLED MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT, AND IT MEANS THAT YOU GET SPEND OVER $150,000 AND, UH, FROM, UH, IN LOCATION EXPENDITURES OR $17 AND 50 CENTS PER CAPITA EXPENDITURES.

AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE OVER THAT WE'RE AROUND THE $24 PER CAPITA EXPENDITURES.

UH, YOU HAVE ONE ITEM PER CAPITA OR EXPENDITURES OF AT LEAST 15% ON ALL YOUR COLLECTIONS.

1% OF THE COLLECTION WAS PUBLISHED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND THE NUMBER OF SERVICE HOURS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S A, A, UH, A SCALE, UH, YOUR POPULATION AND YOU NEED, UH, MAY REQUIRE THAT YOU'RE OPEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS PER WEEK, UM, DEPENDING ON THE POPULATION, UM, OF YOUR, UH, OF YOUR CITY AND THE BENEFITS OF ACCREDITATION, UH, YOU GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATES INTERLIBRARY LOAN PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, WE MAY NOT HAVE SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT THEY NEED, BUT THEY CAN DISSIPATE IN, IN OUR LIBRARY

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LOAN PROGRAM, GET ACADEMIC MATERIALS, GET BOOKS FROM, UH, ALL, ALL TYPES OF LIBRARIES AND ALL TYPES OF MATERIALS.

WE GET TO PURCHASE, UH, TECH SHARE DATABASES, WHICH, UM, IS WE GET TO PURCHASE THEM AT A, UH, AT A REDUCED RATE.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET, UM, A GOOD MANY DATABASES, UH, AT, AT A VERY REDUCED RATE, WHICH IS A BENEFIT TO, UH, TO ALL OF OUR PATRONS, BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THESE DATABASES, FRANKLY, WOULD WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY AFFORD THEM, BUT WE COULDN'T AFFORD THEM ALL.

WE WERE ABLE TO JUST KIND OF A COOPERATIVE PURCHASE OR THE STATE AND WHERE YOU WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THE TEXTURE LIBRARY CARD PROGRAM.

UM, THAT'S, UH, WHERE, UM, UH, OUR PATRONS ARE ISSUED A TECH SHARE CARD, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND, UH, CHECK OUT BOOKS, UH, OF OTHER LAW AT OTHER LIBRARIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THAT.

SO SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT WE'RE REPORTING, UH, THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MATERIALS IN OUR LIBRARY COLLECTION, UH, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME RANGE, UH, AS WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, UH, PHYSICAL FISCAL YEARS AND THE REPORTS THAT WE, THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, FOR LIBRARY CIRCULATION, UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR LIBRARY WAS CLOSED, UH, FOR ABOUT 13 WEEKS DURING THE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

SO OUR CIRCULATION DID, UH, DROP A BIT, BUT HONESTLY I WAS, I THINK, SO KAREN WAS TWO, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE NUMBER I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

UM, BUT, UH, WE DID, WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A INCREASE IN, UH, ELECTRONIC MATERIALS, UH, CIRCULATION.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IS THAT WE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE COVID 19 RESPONSE, WE WENT AHEAD AND JUST RECHECK EVERY, UH, ALL BOOKS, ALL MATERIALS OUT, WE JUST CONTINUED TO REACH.

AND, UH, IF THEY WERE COMING OVER TO, UH, WE DID KIND OF GET A LITTLE BUMP, UH, WITH THAT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OF MATERIALS FOR LIBRARY VISITS.

UH, WE DID TAKE, UH, A GOOD HIT, UH, ON THE NUMBER OF LIBRARY VISITS.

UM, I BELIEVE 2018.

I DON'T THINK I WAS DOING THAT REPORT, BUT I THINK WE WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THAT TIME.

I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT A RIGHT FIGURE.

I KNOW.

YEAH.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE I GOT THAT FROM COWELL.

I'LL HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE DID, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, GO A LITTLE, LITTLE LOWER, UH, ON THE LIBRARY VISITS THAT, THAT WE HAD FROM LAST, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR BEFORE, UM, PRETTY MUCH EXPECTED WE HAVE RE WE HAD REDUCED HOURS AND WE WERE ALSO, UM, WE, WE WERE ALSO CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC OR, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF THE COVID 19, UH, RESPONSE FOR LIBRARY PROGRAMMING.

UH, YOU REMEMBER THIS YEAR, UM, OR DURING THE FISCAL YEAR, WE STARTED VIRTUAL PROGRAMMING, UH, UM, UM, AS A PART OF, UH, OF OUR PROGRAMMING, UH, REC REPERTOIRE.

AND, UH, IT HAS REALLY INCREASED THE NUMBER OF ATTENDANCE AT OUR PROGRAMS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OFFER MORE PROGRAMS, A LOT OF THEM VIRTUALLY AND, UH, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF, OF, UH, PATRONS THAT HAVE ATTENDED OUR PROGRAMS, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE, UH, FROM THE YEARS BEFORE THAT WE WE'VE SAID THIS THE END.

AND WITH THAT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, OR I CAN ANSWER ABOUT THE STATE REPORT, YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

YEAH.

UH, TYPOS PAGE CAT SHARE.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THE QUESTIONS ARE CAMO.

I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO REALLY THE, THE STATISTIC THAT JUST JUMPS OUT AT ME THIS YEAR MORE THAN ANYTHING, IS THAT PROGRAMMING STATISTIC, THE CIRCULATION STATISTICS IS AMAZING ON ITSELF, ESPECIALLY DURING THE, UM, THE PANDEMIC, BUT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT KATHLEEN AND THE PROGRAMMING LIBRARIANS, AND ACTUALLY A WHOLE HOST

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OF OTHER STAFF WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT THEY CAME TOGETHER AND CULTIVATED THIS AMAZING VIRTUAL PRESENCE, UM, JUST FULL OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO REACH SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

UM, MANY PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T USUALLY WALK THROUGH OUR DOORS, BUT THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAMS VIRTUALLY, WHICH WAS REALLY AWESOME.

SO, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE STAFF.

TRADITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE LIBRARIANS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PRESENTING THE PROGRAMS AND WITH THE WE'VE EXPANDED, NOT ONLY HAVE WE REACHED A DIFFERENT AUDIENCES, BUT WITH, WITH THE STAFF, WE WERE USING PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN PROGRAMS. IT'S BEEN GREAT FOR US TO SEE PEOPLE'S INTERESTS AND THEIR ABILITIES.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN.

UM, WE HAVE VIDEOS FOR POETRY MONTH COMING UP.

I WAS JUST REVIEWING THEM BEFORE THIS, AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE BEEN, UH, THEY PARTICIPATED IN THAT, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY PARTICIPATED IN EVEN ON THE VIRTUAL, UH, PROGRAMMING.

SO IT'S, IT'S, WE ENJOY IT.

AND I KNOW KAREN AND I WERE LISTENING TO THE PODCASTS AND LISTENING TO THE INTEREST OR OF STAFF, THE DIFFERENT STAFF PEOPLE.

SO I THINK THAT HELPS BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TOO.

AND IT MAKES FOR A RICHER EXPERIENCE WITH AMONG STAFF MEMBERS AND HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, CARRIES OVER INTO WHAT THE PUBLIC ALSO SEES.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING.

I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW, HOW, HOW VIRTUAL PROGRAMMING WILL GO AS, AS, AS THE WORLD OPENS BACK UP.

AND WE'RE NOT ALL AT HOME, UH, LOCKED DOWN, UH, AND TO SEE KIND OF WHERE THAT HITS.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S HERE TO STAY IN, IN A LOT OF WAYS.

AND, AND, AND IT'S A GOOD AVENUE FOR US TO REACH A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE PEOPLE.

SO I HOPE IT, I HOPE IT CONTINUES TO BE STRONG.

THAT GETS GOING TO BE BLENDED.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE REPORT, EXTRA CREDIT TO EVERYBODY FOR CREATIVITY AND ADAPTING TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES.

AMEN.

AN AMAZING JOB THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

I'LL SECOND THAT, IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW FAST THE LIBRARIANS AND THE STAFF JUST TURNED ON A DIME AND JUST EMBRACED, EMBRACED ALL OF THAT AND EMBRACED IT AS THE RIGHT WORD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LET'S GO TO C, WHICH IS THE PHYSICAL YEAR, 2021, 20 2022 OPERATING BUDGETS.

AND WE ARE THIS ISN'T JUST A BRIEF UPDATE, BUT THE, UM, FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET CYCLE HAS OFFICIALLY STARTED.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING, I FEEL LIKE WE JUST DID LAST YEAR OR THIS TIME WE DID IT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY.

SO, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INPUTTING EVERYTHING.

THERE ARE NO MAJOR CHANGES FOR THE BUDGET.

UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, STILL KEEPING THE SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS, UM, JUST TRYING TO KEEP WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET ALLOCATION.

THERE'LL BE SOME DATES COMING UP IN, UM, PROBABLY, WELL, ACTUALLY I CAN GIVE YOU A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE.

UM, BUT I ALMOST HATE TO DO THAT UNTIL THEY, THEY NAILED DOWN THE BUDGET PRESENTATION SCHEDULES, BUT IT WILL BE FORMALLY, UM, MR. BRADFORD WILL PRESENT THE BUDGET IN JULY, AND THEN THERE'LL BE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS IN, UM, AUGUST WITH A FORMAL ADOPTION IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH WILL ASK FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUPPORT AND GOING OUT TO THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING, UM, ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY UNFUNDED REQUESTS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP STATUS QUO.

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SOUNDS GOOD.

ANY COMMENTS? ANYBODY WILL GO TO D CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, BANK PLAN, BOND PROGRAM UPDATES, CENTRAL LIBRARY FIRST AND THEN WALNUT CREEK.

YES.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF UPDATES TO THE BIG BUILDING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WHICH ARE VERY EXCITING.

UM, SO CENTRAL LIBRARY, WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDST OF THE PROGRAMMING, A PREDESIGNED PROGRAMMING PHASE OF THAT PROJECT, STILL WORKING WITH MAUREEN AND HER TEAM, AS WELL AS THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

UM, ON THE COORDINATION OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY STARTING, IT'S GOTTEN PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY STARTING AT A PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION IN AROUND DECEMBER OR JUNE.

UH, EITHER LATER THIS YEAR, FIRST OF NEXT YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAN FOR JANUARY, DECEMBER OR JANUARY INSTEAD OF JUNE.

OH NO.

I SAID DECEMBER OR JANUARY, NOT IN JUNE OF NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THIS BUILDING.

AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON TRYING TO HAVE TEMPORARY FACILITIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, FOR PIECES OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND, UH, UM, A SMALL AMOUNT OF CIRCULATING PHYSICAL MATERIALS IN THAT LOCATION WE ARE WORKING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING PROJECT IS TO COMPLETELY REDO THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING AND REALLY RECONSTRUCT THINGS, UM, FOR SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY, UH, AESTHETICS TECHNOLOGY.

SO PROBABLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL HAVE A DRAFT OF A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WILL SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO REORIENT THE, THE MAIN, UM, ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING TO BE RIGHT OFF THE WEST LOT AND NOT OFF AUSTIN STREET.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE LARGE PARKING LOT.

THAT'S THERE BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, AND IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO GET INTO AND POSSIBLY MOVING THE LARGE MEETING ROOM THAT WE HAVE TOWARDS THE, THE FRONT CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

SO WE, THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN USE IT AFTER HOURS IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO USE IT AFTER HOURS.

UM, FOR SOME OF OUR PATRONS THAT HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES AND THEY WANT TO COME TO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF IF IT'S CLOSER TO THE FRONT AND HAVING TO COME IN AND GO ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN TO THE END OF THAT BUILDING, BRINGING ALL OF THE MATERIALS UP TO THE MAIN FLOOR OR THE ADULT MATERIALS UP TO THE MAIN FLOOR, CREATING SOME QUIET READING SPACES, SOME STEADY SPACES, HAVING A WORLD LANGUAGES COLLECTION, UM, OFFERING MORE STUDY ROOMS ON THE FIRST AND LOWER LEVELS, INCLUDING, UH, SOME LARGER STUDY ROOMS OR CONFERENCE ROOMS, HAVING A MAKER SPACE AND A SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

UM, JUST LOTS OF DIFFERENT FEATURES THAT MODERN PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE OFFERING.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A THIRD STORY ADDED TO THE BUILDING, GETTING TOLD NO ABOUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE AS MANY OF THOSE REALLY AMAZING FUNCTIONS HERE AT CENTRAL, SINCE WE'RE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND WE'RE THE ANCHOR FOR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM IN GARLAND AT THIS LOCATION DOWNSTAIRS, WE WANT TO TURN THAT INTO THE CHILDREN'S AREA, UM, AND MAKE IT A REALLY FUN, UNIQUE, AND, UH, CONFINED SPACE, SAFE SPACE FOR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO GO TO, UH, AND THEIR PARENTS OR CAREGIVERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CLOSE TO THE FRONT DOOR IT'S WE CAN MONITOR WHO'S COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT SPACE A LITTLE BIT EASIER, DO SOME UNIQUE PROGRAMMING AND HAVE SOME, UM, SOME FUN THINGS FOR KIDS THAT MAYBE ARE OFF THAT MAIN FLOOR FOR ADULTS.

SO, UM, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, UH, A DRAFT OF A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU NEXT MONTH, AND YOU CAN SORT OF VISUALIZE IT AND CONCEPTUALIZE IT, BUT I HOPE YOU'LL BE AS EXCITED ABOUT THE PLAN AS WE ARE ON THE SIDE OF BEING ABLE TO DO IT.

THERE'S SOME EXTERIOR WORK THAT WILL BE DONE AND TRYING TO, UM, MAKE THAT WEST SIDE, UM, A MORE ATTRACTIVE AREA THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS NOW ADDING IN A GREEN SPACE AND A DROP-OFF AREA, HAVING SOME KIND OF FOCAL POINT ON THAT SIDE, ADDING WINDOWS, BECAUSE I THINK MICHAEL MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY LAST NIGHT, DURING THE FRIENDS MEETING,

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WE LEARNED DURING THE, UH, THIS PROCESS THAT THE EXTERIOR BRICK WALL IS NOT A LOAD BEARING WALL.

AND IT WAS THE BEST NEWS THAT WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY HAD THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO WE CAN NOT HOLES ALL THROUGH THIS BRICK WALL AND ADD WINDOWS AND NATURAL LIGHT AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT TEARING THE BUILDING DOWN.

SO THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING.

SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE WORKING ON TEMPORARY FACILITIES AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL HAVE A LIBRARY MATERIALS KIOSK, UM, EITHER AT THIS LOCATION OR SOMEWHERE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO CENTRAL WE'RE CLOSED DOWN.

SO PATRONS HAVE ACCESS 24 SEVEN, THE PHYSICAL LIBRARY MATERIALS WITH THEIR LIBRARY CARD AT THE KIOSK.

ALSO JUST WANT TO MENTION IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO BUILD GARLAND.COM, UM, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, LET ME SEE IF I CAN BRING IT UP.

YEAH.

AND GO TO BUILD GARLIN.COM.

THIS WILL GIVE YOU HIGHLIGHTS FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BOND PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS.

IF YOU CLICKED ON ONE, IT WILL GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA AS TO HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS, GIVE YOU DIFFERENT PROJECT UPDATES FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU SOME CONCEPTUAL IDEAS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND WHAT IT, UM, IS INTENDING TO BE WANTING TO DO THE ONE, MAYBE THIS ONE.

YEAH.

SO ANY OF YOU WHO ARE CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SQUARE'S GOING TO BE REDESIGNED AND THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL CONCEPTS FOR HOW THE SQUARE IS GOING TO BE REDESIGNED.

UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, AT CENTRAL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS REDESIGNED SPACE WHENEVER IT'S COMPLETED IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OUTDOOR PROGRAMS ON THE SQUARE.

SO IT WILL BE A REALLY UNIQUE AND AMAZING PLACE IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND TOO.

SO IT'S JUST BUILD, BUILD GARLAND.COM.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS, UM, IS ON OUR WEBSITE ACTUALLY.

SO WALNUT CREEK BRANCH.

UM, WE HAVE, I THINK I TOLD YOU THE LAST MEETING OFFICIALLY STARTED THAT PROJECT, AND WE'RE JUST IN THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF THAT PROJECT.

WE HAVE VLQ ARCHITECTS ON BOARD AND WE HELD OUR FIRST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING FOR THE WALNUT CREEK BRANCH LIBRARY.

MS. BETTY CAME TO THE MEETING.

A COUPLE OF YOU MAY HAVE ALSO COME TO THE MEETING IF YOU DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENT, UM, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH THE EVENT.

UH, THE LINKS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE HERE.

UM, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD, UH, ANY OF THE, UM, THE PRESENTATION.

YOU CAN WRITE ANY OF YOUR OPINIONS FROM THE PRESENTATION ON THE PHYSICAL FORMS. WE HAVE THOSE FORMS AVAILABLE AT THE LIBRARY IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AT TURN THOSE IN, AT THE LIBRARY, OR USE GOOGLE DOCS TO TURN THOSE, THOSE INFORMATION PACKETS IN AS WELL.

BUT THE, THE ARCHITECT CAME AND BROUGHT LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, IDEAS ON A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT FRONT ENTRANCES COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE DIFFERENT FEATURES OF THE INTERIOR OF THE LIBRARY TO, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU WANT YOUR SERVICE DESK TO BE SET UP.

AND WHAT FUNCTIONS DO YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR SERVICE DESK? SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE OR WATCH THAT MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATION, I REALLY RECOMMEND GOING AND WATCHING THAT, UH, IN PARTICIPATE IN GETTING YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN, UM, MAKING YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN SO THAT WE CAN BUILD WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.

UM, THE NEXT STEP, WE WILL BE DOING ANOTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, SESSION WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT IT WILL BE FOCUSED ON STAKEHOLDERS.

SO WE'LL BE DOING A LIBRARY BOARD, FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, GIS DE CHAMBER, LOTS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS WITHIN THE CITY AS STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO TRY TO, UM, GET SOME MORE CONCISE AND, UM, PRETTY TARGETED PIECES OF INFORMATION AS TO WHAT STAKEHOLDERS ARE LOOKING AT FOR THE LIBRARY AND WHAT THEY, THEY WANT OF THE NEW, UH, WALNUT CREEK BRANCH LIBRARY.

BUT THAT DATE HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK TO START LOOKING AT THAT AND A FEW OTHER THINGS FOR WALNUT CREEK, BUT IT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S GOING TO BE REAL.

IT'S

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GOING TO BE AMAZING.

I'M SORRY.

I MISSED THAT OVER AT WALNUT CREEK, BUT, UH, I STILL WONDER WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO FOR PARKING? UM, WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED LOOKING AT PARKING YET, BUT THEY'RE, THEY ASSURE ME, THE ARCHITECTS ASSURE ME THAT THERE'S, UM, PLENTY OF ROOM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE LIBRARY AND FOR THE REC CENTER AS WELL, PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO USE SOME SPACE ALONG WALNUT, UM, OR THE SIDE OF THE SITE ALONG WALNUT CREEK AND MAKE IT A, UM, A SHARED PARKING SPACE FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO BE MEETINGS WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAVE A VOICE? THE FIRST ONE WAS, UM, ON APRIL 10 AND THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL ONES, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT SCHEDULED YET.

WELL, THEY'RE HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TONIGHT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT STARTS AT SEVEN.

SO, AND YOU CAN GET THEIR LIGHT.

UM, I WAS NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE AT THE MEETING.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT, OF COURSE, BUT I SAW NO PEOPLE THAT SPEAK SPANISH AND I SAW NO PEOPLE THAT SPEAK ASIAN LANGUAGES THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO BE CONSULTED BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS.

THAT'S WHERE THE LIBRARY IS.

DON'T THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE A WONDERFUL, UH, ASIAN SECTION IN THE WALNUT CREEK LIBRARY.

WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH OVER ON THE WEST GARLAND AREA.

WE WENT TO SAIGON MALL, LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, DAYCARES BUSINESSES.

I HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE WENT.

AND THEN OUR, THE MEETING WAS, UH, SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGH, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.

AND THEY PUT IT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER AS WELL.

WE SHARED IT WITH GIS.

THE, SO WE, WE SENT IT OUT AS MANY PLACES TO GET AS MUCH COVERAGE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE WERE HAVING THE COMMUNITY EVENT AND WE DO HAVE THE PHYSICAL PRESENTATIONS AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH, SPANISH, AND VIETNAMESE TOO.

WE DO HAVE A, UM, JUST MADE A CONNECTION WITH A LADY FROM THE VIETNAMESE COMMUNITY, AND SHE'S BEEN SENT HER, UM, THE, UH, PRESENTATION IN ENGLISH AND VIETNAMESE, AND SHE'S DISSEMINATING THOSE OUT INTO THE VIETNAMESE COMMUNITY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM HER MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS AND, AND HELPING US BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, BUT I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WE HAD AT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, EVENT.

I DIDN'T REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY WE WOULD GET DOING IT THROUGH ZOOM AND VIRTUALLY, BUT THERE, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF, UH, FROM WHAT I COULD SEE THAT I DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE NAMES EITHER OF, OF WHO WAS COMING AND WHO WASN'T REPRESENTED.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DO YOUR BEST, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT OKAY.

BUT WE WANT THEIR OPINION SO BAD.

SO I'M SURE YOU DID.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH MORE UPDATES AND MORE DATES FOR, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, EVENTS, AND FORUMS AND WAYS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS.

YES.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PICTURES, NOT IDEAS.

MY GOODNESS.

JUST DREW WHEN YOU'D GO THROUGH AND LOOKING AT THEM, WHERE DID YOU HAVE THIS MEETING? IF YOU HAD IT OVER AT THE WALNUT CREEK BRANCH, WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AT WALNUT CREEK.

WE HAD IT, UM, OVER ZOOM ZOOM.

IT WAS VIRTUAL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WALNUT CREEK BRANCH HAS EXACTLY A 12 PERSON MEETING ROOM IN THE BACK AND IT'S VERY SMALL.

I WILL CHECK THAT OUT AND I'M NOT SURE I'LL MAKE IT TO THE MEETING, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT UP A GOOD PROGRAM ABOUT BILLING IN THAT GYMNASIUM INTO A FULL COURT.

SO I'M NOT PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THAT IF ANYONE WATCHES THE PRESENTATION AND DOES THE GOOGLE DOCUMENT TOGETHER, HE DOESN'T MENTION IT UNTIL ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MENTION WHAT YOU LIKE AND WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PICTURE.

JUST, JUST, JUST PUT LIKE WHAT YOU REALLY LIKE AND WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT THINGS.

BUT LIKE, I

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STARTED DOING IT AND I WAS LIKE EVERY SINGLE ONE.

I WAS TRYING TO SAY WHAT I LIKED AND WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE.

AND THEN HE'S LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING ON EVERYTHING.

CAUSE THERE'S LIKE 80 SOME PICTURES.

RIGHT? KAREN? YEAH.

WE JUST WANT A FEEDBACK.

YEAH.

HE WAS LIKE, DON'T, DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO FEEDBACK ON ALL OF THEM, BUT IT'S ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE PRESENTATION BEFORE HE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, BECAUSE I WAS DOING IT TOGETHER, THANKS FOR THE HAND.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING UNDER MISCELLANEOUS WE NEED TO LOOK AT KAREN FAILED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK COVID UPDATE.

UM, WE ARE, AS OF APRIL 12TH, ALL OF STAFF HAVE REPORTED BACK TO THE LIBRARY.

SO WE'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

UM, WE ARE AT 75% FOR OUR PUBLIC CAPACITY, BUT IF YOU'VE WATCHED ANY OF THE COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS LATELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PLANS TO BE OPEN AT A HUNDRED PERCENT CAPACITY AT THE END OF MAY.

AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE DOING ALL OF THE SAME THINGS THAT WE DID PRE COVID, BUT WE WILL OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, AND BE OPEN TO HAVE, UH, UM, AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE, AS FAR AS THE CAPACITY OF LIBRARY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BEGINNING IN MAY, WE ARE GOING TO START SOME IN-PERSON EVENTS OR IN-PERSON PROGRAMS AGAIN AS WELL, BUT THEY WILL BE HELD OUTSIDE OUTDOORS EITHER IN OUR PARKS, WORKING WITH THE REC DEPARTMENT SOMEWHERE OUTDOORS, THAT'S THE MOST COMFORTABLE WAY WHERE, OR THAT WE, WE FEEL THE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH BEING ABLE TO HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH MAY, JUNE AND JULY, AND THEN WE WILL REASSESS.

AND, UM, WE'RE WANTING TO HAVE IN-PERSON PROGRAMS. OUR PATRONS ARE WANTING TO HAVE IN-PERSON PROGRAMS. SO WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE, THE TWO, UM, AS OF MAY 1ST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CONSULTED, UH, ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD FIND TALKED WITH JASON CHESHIRE AND GOTTEN HIS OPINION.

UM, AND WITH THE LATEST INFORMATION FROM THE CDC, WE ARE GOING TO DISCONTINUE QUARANTINING LIBRARY MATERIALS AS OF MAY 1ST, UM, ALL OF THE INFORMATION SAYS, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A 0% CHANCE, BUT IT'S LESS THAN LIKE A 0.015% CHANCE OF CONTRACTING THE VIRUS OFF OF THE SURFACE.

SO WE FEEL COMPETENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCONTINUE QUARANTINE LIBRARY MATERIALS AND GET THAT BACK INTO A REGULAR ROTATION.

GET THOSE ITEMS OFF OF PATRON LIBRARY CARDS MUCH FASTER THAN WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE.

UH, EXCUSE ME, STAFF WAS STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO WEAR GLOVES IF THEY WANT TO WEAR A GOWN WHEN THEY'RE HANDLING ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS, THAT THAT'S A CHOICE THAT THEY CAN MAKE AND WE'LL PROVIDE THOSE GLOVES.

AND THOSE PPES FOR THEM, UM, MASKS ARE ENCOURAGED, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEAR WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO THE LIBRARY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK IN THE LIBRARY.

IT IS MANDATORY FOR LIBRARY STAFF THOUGH.

WE HAVE TO WEAR A MASK WHENEVER WE'RE AROUND OTHERS, WHERE ON THE PUBLIC FLOOR, UM, NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR STAFF WEARING A MASK, BUT IT HAS FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND AS OF SO FAR, WE'VE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES.

UM, WELL, I'M GOING TO KNOCK ON WOOD.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH, UM, PEOPLE NOT COMPLYING OR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR FACILITIES ARE WEARING MASKS STILL, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER SOME IN-PERSON PROGRAMS AND EXCITED TO TRY TO GET BACK TO PROVIDING SOME SERVICES THAT PATRONS ARE ASKING FOR KAREN IS, IS, UH, THIS PLAN PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR NEIGHBORING LIBRARIES ARE DOING.

YES, I'LL TELL YOU WE'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.

WE HAVE SOME LIBRARIES, SOME SURROUNDING LIBRARIES THAT THEY DID AWAY WITH QUARANTINING.

IF THEY EVER QUARANTINE MATERIALS, THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT NEVER DID THAT.

UM, THERE ARE SOME LIBRARIES THAT, UM, AFTER ABBOT MADE HIS DECLARATION, THEY STARTED DOING IN-PERSON PROGRAMMING.

UM, THEY'VE LIFTED ANY MASS MANDATES IN THEIR LIBRARIES.

UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOOD HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIBRARIES THAT ARE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE LIBRARIES.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, OR THEY DO CURBSIDE ONLY.

THOSE ARE REALLY STARTING TO GET PHASED OUT AS MORE AND MORE LIBRARIES ARE GOING BACK ONLINE AND GETTING BACK INTO A REGULAR ROUTINE OF THINGS.

DALLAS IS OPENING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A YEAR,

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MAY 4TH.

AND THEY HAVE SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC RULES THAT THEIR PATRONS HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO USE, UM, THE SERVICES AT DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY.

SO YOU'VE GOT ANYWHERE FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO MCKINNEY WHO HAS BEEN WIDE OPEN GOING FOR SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS NOW.

SO, BUT WE'RE HAPPILY, WE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE GOING IN.

WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO DO IT, AND WE'RE NOT THE LAST ONES, WHICH IS A GOOD PLACE TO BE.

I AGREE.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ANYTHING WE HAVE SKIPPED THE MIST YOU SAW ON YOUR AGENDA THAT, UM, WE HAVE SOME FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THE UPDATE TO LIBRARY LOST AND FOUND POLICY AND THEN CONSIDERATION OF FINE, RIGHT OFF POLICY THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO WE DISCUSS THOSE IN AN UPCOMING MEETING AS WELL.

THE OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING IS, UM, BRINGING UP PROGRAMMING AND SUMMER READING PROGRAM, UM, UPDATE IN MAY AS WELL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER, UH, FOR CLAIM THAT THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Speech-to-Text.