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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE JULY 12TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

WE ARE IN OUR PRE MEETING SECTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE WE HEAR FROM STAFF AND WE DO OUR BACK AND FORTH. SO LET'S GET RIGHT INTO THAT.

OH, AND WE'RE HERE LIVE, FOLKS, BACK I'M MEETING SOME OF YOU FOLKS FOR THE FIRST TIME, TOO. AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND INSTEAD OF GOING OVER THE PLANS AND EVERYTHING INDIVIDUALLY DURING THIS PART OF THE MEETING, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY CONSENT AGENDA, ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE CASES. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE USED TO DO, BUT I THINK IT'LL WORK.

SPACES FOR SEMI TRUCK TRAILERS.

AND THIS APPLICATION IS A REVISION TO THE SPECIFIC PROVISION APPROVED IN 2018.

AND THIS IS AN SUP AMENDMENT AND A PLAN FOR A TRUCK BUS STORAGE ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

OK, LET ME CHECK IS YOUR PRESENTATION SUPPOSED TO BE ON OUR SCREENS NOW.

OH, YES. YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

GO AHEAD AND HIT THE PRESENTATION BUTTON ON YOUR LITTLE SCREENS AND A PRESENTATION SHE WORKED EIGHTY SEVEN HOURS ON WILL BE RIGHT THERE FOR YOU.

THAT'S COOL. OK, EVERYBODY SEE IT.

ALRIGHT SORRY, YOU KNOW, FOLKS IN THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, WE'RE GOT A NEW SYSTEM HERE AND WE'RE GETTING USED TO IT.

THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE POINT FOUR TWO ACRES.

THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.

THE RED STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THAT LINE IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND IT'S LOCATED SOUTH OF THE DART LINE AND EAST OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND SURROUNDING ZONING ARE ALL MAINLY INDUSTRIAL.

AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES HOLD AN SUP THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018 FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE, BUT IT WAS NEVER DEVELOPED.

AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD MORE TRUCK PARKING SPACES TO THE LAYOUT.

AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE INVASION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS INDUSTRY. AND THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS A SUPPORTIVE USED TO THE INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT SECTOR.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS, THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY F ROM MILLER PARK DRIVE.

THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM MILLER PARK AND THE BOTTOM IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND HERE'S A COMPARISON TABLE FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2018 AND WHAT IS PROPOSED NOW, AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE PARKING SPACE IN 2018 TWENTY SIX TRUCK PARKING SPACES WERE APPROVED AND PROPOSED IS THIRTY THREE ADDITIONAL TRUCK PARKING SPACE AND IT ADDS TO A TOTAL OF FIFTY NINE SPACES.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING AREA.

THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2018 WAS SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE SQUARE FEET AND PROPOSED IS NINE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN FROM 2018, WHICH SHOWS THE TWENTY SIX PARKING SPACES, THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE REMAINDER PORTION WAS DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE PAVING.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF FIFTY NINE TRUCK SPACES AND OVER HERE IS CONCRETE PAVING AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS ECO PAVERS.

AND THE PROPOSED PLAN SHOWS THE CONCRETE AND THE ECO PAVERS, WHICH WAS REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY BELIEVE THAT IT IS IN RESPONSE TO THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE CONSTRAINTS TO MITIGATE STORM WATER RUNOFF.

AND THIS IS THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS AT THE SAME LOCATION, AS WELL AS THE PARKING SPACES FOR THE OFFICE AND THEN THE ENTRANCE FROM MILLER PARK DRIVE.

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THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR THE GDC.

THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY AND ALONG MILLER PARK DRIVE.

THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATION FOR THE OFFICE, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE GDC.

AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE SUP TO BE IN EFFECT FOR A PERIOD OF TWENTY FIVE YEARS AND NO GDC DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP AMENDMENT FOR TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.

TOTAL OF TWENTY FIVE WERE MAILED OUT AND WE RECEIVED TWO THAT WERE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.

AND TWO OF THEM ARE FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.

AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER OTT.

WHAT IS AN ECO PAVER? SO IT'S BASICALLY POROUS PAVER, WHICH HELPS WITH THE STORM WATER RUNOFF AND IN THAT AREA IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO HAVE SOME DRAINAGE CONCERN.

AND SO THEY BELIEVE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS WELL BELIEVE THAT THESE ECO PAVERS ARE A BETTER SOLUTION COMPARED TO CONCRETE.

AND SO THERE'LL BE AREAS IN WHICH WATER CAN GO INTO.

BUT IT'S STILL VERY STRUCTURALLY STRONG.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT, BUT THAT'D BE MY CONCEPT OF IT IS A CMU ON ITS SIDE WITH OPENINGS SO WATER CAN GET IT.

IT'S, UH, IT'S COMMONLY USED.

SORRY, ANYTHING ELSE? OK, COMMISSIONER OTT, WELL, COMMISSIONER ROSE BASICALLY TOOK THE MAIN QUESTION THAT I HAD ALSO. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD WHAT THEY ALREADY GOT APPROVED IN 2018, CORRECT? YES, OK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

SO REGARDING THE PAVERS, THE POROUS PAVERS, THOSE ARE JUST THEY LOOK LIKE CHEESE, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF BRANDS.

AND ENGINEERING'S PROBABLY LOOKED OVER THE SPECIFIC ONE THEY INTEND ON USING.

AND IF MY GUESS IS CORRECT, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM ON A PROPER SUB BASE AND EVERYTHING AND A PROPER FEEL.

AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY THOROUGH ON STUFF.

OK. OK, MY ACTUAL QUESTION SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN.

IS THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE THE POTENTIAL INCREASED TRAFFIC TO THAT ROAD. THAT LOOKS LIKE I'VE SEEN PRETTIER DAYS.

YES, IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

AND THEY ARE OK WITH IT.

COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

HOW LONG DO THOSE ECO PAPERS LAST, IF IT'S A TWENTY FIVE YEAR DEAL, ARE THEY GOING TO LAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THE PAVERS, BUT I BELIEVE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DID THAT STUDY AND THEY BELIEVE THAT IT WORKS FOR THAT SITE.

I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THE.

YEAH, OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MINE ARE MORE OF A COMMENT AND MORE FOR THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE LETTERS DID ADDRESS SECURITY AND I'D BE INTERESTED IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT KIND OF SECURITY THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, MONITORING AND STUFF.

AND I HAD A QUESTION OF STAFF AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DOABLE OR NOT, BUT THERE ARE IMPACT FEES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

CAN THOSE IMPACT FEES GO DIRECTLY INTO REPAIRING OR REPLACING SEGMENTS OF THE ROAD BECAUSE COMMISSIONER JENKINS IS RIGHT.

THERE'S A SECTION ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK UP THAT'S JUST TOTALLY TRASHED ON ONE SIDE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT IMPACT FEE STUFF OR IF YOU CAN KIND OF BE DIRECTLY JUST PUT OVER INTO THAT BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK INTO LATER.

ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT.

NO. AND THAT WILL BE A WILL BE TWO PARTER GENTLEMEN, THAT WE'LL TRY TO TAKE IN ONE VOTE,

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WHICH IS THE SUP AND THE DETAIL PLAN.

THANK YOU. NOW WE GET INTO THE BIG PRESENTATION.

DON'T ALL JUMP UP AT ONCE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.

I GUESS WE'LL GIVE OUR CONSULTANT A PROPER INTRODUCTION.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS.

TODAY WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE, KEVIN THE PAST YEAR TO LOOK AT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA, WHICH IS GENERALLY AN AREA SURROUNDING THE VA HOSPITAL.

AND SO TONIGHT HE WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE FINDINGS OF OUR WORK, AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE AREA AND ALSO PREPARE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN.

THANK YOU. GIVE ME A SECOND HERE TO PULL THIS UP.

WELL THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IT MAY BE BETTER TO ANSWER THEM AT THE END, BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF WE'VE HOPEFULLY ANTICIPATED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM ALONG AS WE GO. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROCESS WAS.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS, BUT WE DID A NUMBER OF SITE VISITS INCLUDING DURING THE HEIGHT OF COVID, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

WE'VE HAD NOW ACTUALLY FOUR MEETINGS WITH THE VA.

WE HAD ONE JUST ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO.

WE'VE MET WITH THE CITY, A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS, AND THEN WE DID A BUNCH OF HOUSING AND ECONOMIC AND HOUSING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN APPENDIX AND CITY PLANS AND LOOKED AT SOME MOBILITY ISSUES.

BASICALLY WHAT OUR FINDINGS WERE.

IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED DISTRICT AND I'LL WALK THROUGH WHY WE SAY THAT.

IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY AND ALSO, FRANKLY, WITHIN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH, THE METROPLEX ITSELF, WE DO THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE LOOK AND FEEL AND CONNECTIVITY.

AND BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SIGNIFICANT HOUSING DEMAND IN GARLAND AND THE WAY IT'S PRESENTLY ZONED, THINKING ABOUT IT VERY CAREFULLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT. AND OUT OF THAT CAME ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHICH IS TO USE THE DIVERSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ITS ADVANTAGE, IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WE'LL GET INTO SOME PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT AND SENSE OF PLACE, AND PROMOTE THE IDEA AS A MEDICAL CAMPUS AND TRY TO MANAGE THE POTENTIAL FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A COUPLE OF DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS WHICH ARE GOING TO INCLUDE HOUSING. BUT WE STILL THINK THE PRIMARY EMPHASIS SHOULD BE AROUND A MEDICAL CAMPUS, CLINICAL APPLICATIONS.

SO THE STARTING POINT.

SO WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO STUDY IS BASICALLY ALONG SHILOH, THIS IS THE CREEK AND THIS IS WALNUT. AND IT WAS BASICALLY INSIDE THAT TRIANGLE, IF YOU WILL.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT IT, AND WE'VE WORKED IN A LOT OF PLACES, IT'S GOT SEVEN DIFFERENT ZONING MODELS AND THESE ARE ALL OF THE ZONING UP HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S VERY, VERY INTERESTING IS THAT IT HAS THE BIG OPEN TRACK FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS A HISTORICAL LEGACY ISSUE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND THAT COULD BE VERY OPPORTUNISTIC FOR THE CITY ALSO.

AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ZONED MEDICAL OR INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH YOU MIGHT SEE IN OTHER PLACES, WHICH IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY INTERESTING.

WE DO A NUMBER OF THESE AND SO I FOUND THAT KIND OF INTERESTING.

LAND USE IS VERY DIVERSE.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT ALL OF THIS IS, EVERYTHING FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE MEDICAL ACTIVITIES, COMMERCIAL, ETC.

AND IT'S ALSO VERY COMPLICATED OWNERSHIP.

THE AREA THAT IS IN THE BURNT ORANGE, IF YOU WILL, IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION OWNS.

THE PARTS THAT ARE IN BLUE ARE UNDER CONTRACT.

AND THEN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE THAT IS BASICALLY THE INDUSTRIAL PARCEL IS NOW UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE THERE IS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT THE AREA IN BLUE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SEE ARE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS. AND SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA THERE'S 35 SEPARATE OWNERS FOR ALL OF THE REST OF THOSE PROPERTIES. SO THINKING ABOUT A MASSIVE ONE KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT OVERALL WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT BETWEEN THE ASSEMBLY ISSUES AND THERE'S A CHURCH INVOLVED AND THE COMPLEXES.

AND THEN WHEN YOU THROW IN THE BUILDINGS ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE BUILDINGS AT ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF SCALE.

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SO VERY, VERY DIFFERENT KINDS OF ZONING, LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF LAND USES, VERY DIVERSE OWNERSHIP AND A BUILDING FOOTPRINT THAT IS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO FOR US, IT'S A PRETTY COMPLICATED REDEVELOPMENT CONCEPT.

AND THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT IF YOU DID SOME THEORETICAL LAND ASSEMBLY, WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY PUT TOGETHER? AND AGAIN, WE TOOK IT. WE KEPT THE VA PIECES OUT.

BUT IF YOU COULD COMBINE THESE, THAT'S ABOUT 14 ACRES THERE.

THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN ACRES IN HERE, SEVEN ACRES THERE, SIX ACRES THERE.

AND WE LEFT THE OTHER THE PIECES OUT.

AND SO IT'S A REALLY COMPLICATED AREA AND NOT A LOT OF LAND.

SO, AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THROUGH THE ECONOMICS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, IT WOULD BE PRETTY COMPLICATED. SO WHAT OUR PLAN IS AND OUR BIAS IS TO WORK ON THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE ACTUALLY DOABLE. AND GIVEN ALL THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT, YOU'LL SEE HOW WE KIND OF CAME AT THIS.

SO THE FIRST THING IS TO DO SOME RECOMMENDED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

NOW, AS A KEY FOR YOU ALL THE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS, THE ZERO, THE ONE, THE TWO, THE THREE, ET CETERA.

ARE IDENTIFIED ALONG HERE WHERE THE HAND IS, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT YOU CAN TRACK ALONG WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, AND THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS JUST TO KEEP IT AND MAKE IT EASIER TO READ.

AND IT'S ALSO A LITTLE WORDIER THAN YOU PROBABLY USED TO IN THOSE POWER POINTS, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AFTER I WASN'T HERE ANYMORE, YOU COULD ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GENEROUS CONSULTING PIECE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP PAYING IT.

SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS AND SO THIS MAP IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IS THAT EITHER AT ONE OR AT TWO, LOOKING AT SOME AT GRADE CROSSING OPTIONS TO CONNECT RIVER SET FROM A PEDESTRIAN OR BIKE PERSPECTIVE THREE IS A BRIDGE.

AND ALONG THIS TRAIL AREA THAT AS PART OF THE CITY'S PLAN FOUR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE POWER PLANT, THERE DOES NEED TO BE A POWER PLANT.

THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING ENERGY FACILITY THAT PROVIDES STEAM AND HEAT AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO A NEW ONE AND AN UPGRADE ONE.

AND THE TENTATIVE CONCEPT FOR THE VA IS TO PUT IT BASICALLY IN THAT BACK PARKING LOT, WHICH THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE NEEDING.

AND THEN FIVE IS THE IDEA OF A LINEAR PARK AND A HEALING GARDEN, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT LATER ALONG, BASICALLY UTILIZING THE FLOODPLAIN AND TURNING THE FLOODPLAIN INTO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE AS OPPOSED TO A DEVELOPMENT SITE.

SIX IS THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE MY HAND IS OR WHERE THE ELECTRONIC MYSTERY HAND IS, IS WHERE THE NEW PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE FOR THE VA IS GOING TO BE.

AND PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S GOING TO BE THERE IS OUR UNDERSTANDING IT'S A SECURITY ISSUE. AND SO PEOPLE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO COME IN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ACCESS POINTS AND THE HISTORIC ACCESS POINTS.

BUT THE VA IS MOVING THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THERE FOR SECURITY ISSUES.

AND BECAUSE OF THE PERSON WHO HAS SITE CONTROL OR SOME AT LEAST AN IDEA OR IN THE FIRST EARLY STEPS OF SITE CONTROL, THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT A NEW STOP.

SO SOMEWHERE ALONG, SIX IS GOING TO NEED TO BE A LIGHT AND THE LIGHT.

IF THERE IS NO CHANGE, THE LIGHT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE AT WESTWOOD AND THERE IS GOING TO NEED TO BE A MOVE AT THE BUS STOP AS WELL.

EIGHT IS THE CREATION OF A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY OR A WOONERF, WHICH FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S BASICALLY A FANCY ALLEY THAT PEDESTRIANS FEEL REALLY NICE GOING THROUGH. BUT IT SOUNDS BETTER.

AND WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME PICTURES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN A SERIES OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WALNUT STREET, WHICH WE WILL GO INTO.

SHILOH IS NOT ADDRESSED HERE BECAUSE IT IS PART OF A LARGER ONGOING ISSUE WITH SHILOH IN GENERAL. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, ASIDE FROM MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THE STOPLIGHT AND BUS STOP ISSUES AT SIX AND SOME PRINCIPLES OF THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, THAT THE CITY MAKE NO MOVEMENTS ON SHILOH AT THE MOMENT UNTIL WHAT SHILOH'S THE FUTURE OF SHILOH IS IS WORKED THROUGH.

AND SO HERE'S THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS TO WALNUT STREET.

THIS IS THE TOP.

HERE IS THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE ROAD.

WE BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE SIDEWALKS WIDE ENOUGH TO ALMOST BE A SHARED USE PATHS, SOME STREET TREES. WE THINK THERE IS ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

IT WILL NEED TO BE SPECIFICALLY EXAMINED AND SURVEYED.

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BUT CONCEPTUALLY AND BASED UPON ALL THE DRAWINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE ENOUGH.

SO IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THERE WILL NEED TO BE ANY KIND OF LAND ACQUISITION.

BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT AND I WON'T GUARANTEE IT UNTIL SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SURVEYS IT AND ACTUALLY SEES WHAT'S THERE.

BUT WE THINK THIS IS ALSO PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT VETERANS. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHEELCHAIRS, POTENTIALLY OTHER CARTS.

AND SO HAVING A WIDER, SAFER ROAD, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FOR THAT POINT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

ONE THING WE WILL SAY IS THAT IF THERE DOES NEED TO BE A RIGHT OF WAY, THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME CONSIDERATIONS AROUND PARKING ADJUSTMENT FOR THE FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION TO THEN TRIGGER NONCONFORMING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PUT IN ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED.

THE NEXT THING THAT WE DID IS THE ORIGINAL.

OUR ORIGINAL WORK WAS TO LOOK AT BASICALLY BETTER WAYS TO CONNECT THE MEDICAL CAMPUS TO THE FORREST JUPITER STATION WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS OVERALL FORREST JUPITER TRANSIT AREA PLAN. BUT REALLY TO LOOK AT WAY TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT.

AND WE DID ONE OF THE THINGS THAT.

WE NOTICED AND I NOTICED IT WHEN I CAME OUT HERE, AS I SAID, I THINK THE DOWNTOWN GARLAND STATION IS MAYBE EVEN CLOSER AND IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME DISTANCE.

AND WITH ALL OF THE ACTIVITY GOING ON, GARLAND'S IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND AND SOME OF THE PROPOSALS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN A MINUTE, WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT DOWNTOWN, A CONNECTION TO DOWNTOWN GARLAND, TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND PARTICULARLY WANT A VILLAGE AND SOME OTHER THINGS ALSO MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT AND HOW WE THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THERE IS THROUGH A SHUTTLE LOOP.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT DART IS IN THE PROCESS OF RECONFIGURING SOME BUS WAYS THROUGH HERE ALREADY, AND SOME OF IT MAY MAKE IT EASIER TO MOVE INTO A EXCUSE ME, MOVE INTO A SHUTTLE LOOP. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE VA AS WELL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC GENERATED TO SUPPORT A BUS LOOP BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AND FORREST JUPITER, PARTICULARLY ONCE A PLAN GETS PUT IN PLACE THERE AND DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY STARTS TO OCCUR.

THE NEXT THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A QUALITY OF PLACE, IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH SOME PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND THE CREEK.

SO OUR TAKE ON THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS IS THIS.

WE DID NOT RECOMMEND ANY MAJOR CHANGES AT ALL.

FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.

THERE IS A RECENT SUBSTANTIAL TENANT ADDITION WHERE THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TENANT IMPROVEMENT FINANCING PUT IN TO SECURE THAT NEW TENANT.

THERE IS A GENERAL UNCERTAINTY ABOUT RETAIL OVERALL RIGHT NOW.

THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE MARKET, WHILE IT'S REALLY DIVERSE AND IT MAKES THAT CREATES A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S ALSO NOT EXCEEDINGLY WEALTHY.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BECOME A HIGH END RETAIL KIND OF DESTINATION.

AND SO OUR TAKE IS THAT YOU TAKE WHAT IT IS AND WORK WITH IT AND BUILD A KIND OF A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE, AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE ETHNICALLY DIVERSE BUT A LIMITED PURCHASING POWER. AND IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS WITH OR WITHOUT PRECEDENT IN THE REGION.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ETHNICALLY FOCUSED SHOPPING AREAS.

I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT COULD BE A TRULY MULTICULTURAL ONE.

AND IN FACT, ALREADY IS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE TENANT MIX INSIDE THE PLAZA AND AGAIN WITH THE IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DOWNTOWN AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH RIVERSIDE, THIS LITERALLY SITS AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOSE TWO MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS.

SO IT ALSO CREATES A REALLY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY ONCE THE CREEK TAKES PLACE. SO HERE'S WHAT OUR IDEA IS.

IT'S BASICALLY WORKING WITH WHAT YOU HAVE AND MAKING IT BETTER.

SO THE FIRST THING IS TO GET RID OF THIS FENCE, WHICH WAS PUT UP BY THE OWNERS OF THE MEDICAL BUILDING AS A SECURITY FEATURE, IT WAS NOT PUT UP BY FROM OUR STAND POINT WAS NOT PUT UP BY THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER, WAS PUT UP BY THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.

AND YOU'D BASICALLY CREATE A PEDESTRIAN PATH.

AND WE CAN SHOW YOU SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF THAT RATHER THAN JUST THIS ONE HERE.

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CURB CUTS ALONG WALNUT, DO SOME FAçADE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE BUILDINGS, AND DO A MURAL ON THE MAJOR BRICK WALL THAT WE ALL SEE.

AND THEN SOME PARKLET AND PATIO DINING OPTIONS.

THERE IS A LOT OF PARKING IN THIS SPACE AND I'LL GET INTO WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ARE. SO HERE'S THE IDEA OF A I DIDN'T CALL IT A WOONERF HERE.

SO IT'S A SHARED USE SERVICE PATH OR A PEDESTRIAN PATH, BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A WOONERF AND THIS. TOP ONE IS PITTSBURGH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BASICALLY WAS A SERVICE ALLEY THAT HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A PEDESTRIAN THING AND THOSE PLANTERS ARE ACTUALLY MOVABLE.

THE BOTTOM ONE HERE WHERE THE HAND IS, IS IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA.

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AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK, THE DELIVERY TRUCK IN THE BACK.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PARKING GARAGE THERE AND THERE ARE RETAIL STORES ALONG THAT FRONT BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMERCIAL THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN CUT THROUGH.

AND THERE ARE BOLLARDS YOU CAN SEE BACK HERE AT THE END, WHICH BASICALLY LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR CARS OR ANYTHING ELSE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND GET REMOVE THE BOLLARDS FOR CARS TO PASS THROUGH THIS LAST ONE HERE WITH THE FANCY LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING IS IN ALLENTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE 19 IS, WHERE THE PAGE NUMBER IS.

THAT IS BASICALLY WHERE THE TRUCK LOADING AND SERVICE ROAD IS.

AND THEN THE REST OF THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY THING AND IT HAS A SERIES OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES WITH THESE CATCH BASINS AND OTHER OTHER THINGS AND AND THIS LIGHTING SCHEME TO MAKE IT MORE LIT.

AND SO WE THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE TO DO ALONG THAT.

AND IT WOULD PROVIDE A LINKAGE FOR THE MEDICAL STAFF AND FOR THE AND THE PATIENTS AND THE VISITORS OF THE PATIENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET INTO MORE EASILY TO THE SHOPPING CENTER. AND SO IT CAN WORK VERY SYNERGISTICALLY.

THE FACADES, MURALS, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

YOU ALL KNOW THE RICHARDSON THE CHINATOWN MODEL.

THERE'S THERE'S A MILLION EXAMPLES.

AROUND HERE AND THEN AN EXAMPLE OF TAKING THAT LARGE BRICK WALL AND BASICALLY PUTTING A MURAL ACROSS IT SO THAT IT LIGHTENS IT UP AND GIVES US SOME LIGHT.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE PARKLET OUTDOOR DINING, YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

THANKS TO COVID, WE THINK IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD STAY AND CAN BE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME VIBRANCY AND LIFE TO IT.

THE PLACE HAS A LOT OF PARKING.

THERE ARE SOME MANAGEMENT ISSUES WITH THIS, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW, WHICH IS IF THEY DO THIS AGAIN, YOU'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T TRIGGER ANY NONCONFORMING USES OF LOSS OF PARKING SPACES.

AND SO IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THERE AS WELL. AND THEN THE BIG ONE IS THE DUCK CREEK TRAIL AND A HEALING GARDEN CONCEPT.

WHEN WE MET WITH THE THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD WITH THE VA, THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA FOR A HEALING GARDEN CONCEPT BY THE VIRTUE OF THE NATURE OF SOME OF THE PATIENTS THAT THEY WILL BE HAVING AT THIS FACILITY.

AND WE KNOW THAT THE CITY WAS ALREADY VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM, WAS ALREADY KIND OF IN A PLANNING CONCEPT, AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ALONG DUCK CREEK. AND SO WE WENT OUT ON A SEARCH TO FIND EXAMPLES WHERE YOU CAN MARRY THE TWO AND WHAT THIS EXAMPLE IS, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE GREEN ROAD PROJECT.

IT IS AT WALTER REED HOSPITAL.

AND SO IF YOU SIT HERE AND YOU IMAGINE FOR A SECOND CLEANING UP THE AREA ALONG BACK THERE, TURNING IT INTO A REAL PATH, LIGHTING IT SO PEOPLE FEEL SAFE, EVEN POTENTIALLY HAVING SECURITY BOXES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THEY HAVE IN RICHARDSON AND A COUPLE OF PLACES WITH THESE LITTLE STOPPING AREAS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT COULD EASILY BECOME THAT CONCEPT AND BE SOMETHING THAT'S ALSO WORKS FOR THE VA IS A GREAT AMENITY THAT CONNECTS, YOU KNOW, THE WALNUT STREET AREA TO THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND REALLY KIND OF SET A PRECEDENT FOR WHAT COULD BE ALONG THE AREA.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS KIND OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS A MEDICAL CAMPUS.

AND SO I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY.

THIS IS BASICALLY NEARLY EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HOUSING PRICES IN GARLAND? YEAH, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY DRAMATIC.

AND IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT'S LIKE EVERY MONTH IT'S NOT LIKE YEAR OVER YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY INSANE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES AND WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THE ADJACENT CENSUS TRACTS AND THE HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES ARE FALLING FASTER THAN THEY ARE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

SO THERE'S CLEARLY GOING TO BE A LOT THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF HOUSING PRESSURE THAT NEED THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MANAGED IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A MEDICAL DISTRICT.

AND JUST A MAP OF WHERE ALL OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY AND THE YELLOW ARE BASICALLY ARE RESIDENTIAL.

SO OUR THING IS THAT IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE VA TO HAVE COMPATIBLE USES.

THE VA DOES HAVE SECURITY CONCERNS.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A TYPICAL VA HOSPITAL, NOT JUST NOT AN AMBULATORY CENTER CLINIC, BUT A HOSPITAL, THEY'RE TYPICALLY SURROUNDED BY SECURITY FENCES.

IT MAY IT'S WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AT THIS MOMENT, BASED UPON THE USES THAT THAT WILL BE NECESSARY HERE. THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF PROTECTION.

BUT WHETHER IT'S A SECURITY SYSTEM WITH GUARDS AND GATES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ENTER AND ENTRANCE, THEY'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO MANAGE AROUND THAT.

BUT WHAT USES ARE IN AND AROUND IT ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

SO THE PLAN AND SOME SCENARIOS, SO WE CREATED A SERIES OF DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS THAT THE IN PART THAT THE STAFF WAS ASKING US TO SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND SOME ISSUES AROUND DENSITY

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AND PARKING AND SOME OTHER PIECES AND THEN ALSO WHAT OUR THOUGHTS WERE.

SO OUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS THAT WE DON'T THINK THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING STOCK IN THIS DISTRICT IS GOING TO CHANGE AND REDEVELOP UNLESS THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN DENSITY. AND GIVING THE FOOTPRINTS OF THAT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE MORE VERTICAL THAN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HORIZONTAL.

I MEAN, THEY ARE CASH FLOWING NOW AS FAR AS WE KNOW.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GENERATING RENTAL INCOME.

WHY WOULD YOU SPEND 18 MONTHS TEARING DOWN TO HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER 18 MONTHS LEASING IT BACK UP? RIGHT. SO THAT IS OUR BASIC THING THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO CHANGE UNLESS YOU REALLY MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN VALUE, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST A LOT MORE UNITS LIKE MULTIPLES TO WHAT THEY HAVE.

AGAIN, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE COMMERCIAL PLAZA, THERE'S A NEW TENANT, THERE'S A LONG TERM LEASE. WE DON'T SEE THAT REALLY CHANGING ANYTIME SOON.

THERE ARE SOME VACANCY IN THE MEDICAL BUILDINGS, BUT THERE ARE SOME ACTIVE TENANTS.

AND PARKLAND HOSPITAL JUST RE UPED ITS LEASE.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 10 OR 15 YEARS IN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.

AND THEN THERE ARE TWO GREENFIELD SITES WHICH YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT.

AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND THESE WERE QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY STAFF HAD ASKED US, WHICH IS AND HOUSING IS, FRANKLY, THE LIKELY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS HOW MUCH HOUSING CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT BUILDING A PARKING DECK AND BUILDING, CREATING HOUSING AND WHAT FOR THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIALLY THE MEDICAL STAFF AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE HOSPITAL.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, AND WHAT IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT COULD BE BUILT? BUT IT WOULD STILL TRIGGER A PARKING DECK SIMPLY JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF SCALE AND SIZE. AND THEN ALSO IF THERE WAS ADDITIONAL MEDICAL CAPACITY THAT COULD BE BUILT THERE, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH COULD IT FIT AND PARK? BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

SO WHAT OUR PLAN CONCEPT.

AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME MODEL.

THE NUMBERS ARE RELATED TO THE LEGEND OVER HERE.

AND THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE NEW HERE ARE SEVEN, WHICH IS THE IDEA OF TURNING THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE GRADIENT LINES RIGHT HERE INTO A MEDICAL DISTRICT PLAN, DEVELOPMENT IDEA AND THEN POTENTIALLY AND THEN 10.

ONE OPTION IS TO TURN IT INTO 10 INTO A PD OR KEEP IT AS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

BUT EITHER WAY, IT WOULD GIVE THE CITY A LOT OF SAY AND WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN THERE, BECAUSE IT WOULD LIKELY IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE INDUSTRIAL.

AND ON 11 IS THE ON STREET TRAIL AND THEN THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN EIGHT AND NINE ARE THE COSMETIC CHANGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS.

AND THEN WE DID NOT LOOK AT THIS PARCEL UP HERE BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED ON THAT AND HAS MOVED FORWARD.

SO THE FIRST THING WE DID ON WHAT WE'RE CALLING DEVELOPMENT SITE TWO, WHICH IS DOWN HERE, WAS LOOKED AT DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING MODELS.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT, IF YOU FIT IT, IF YOU PUT IN TOWNHOUSES AND COULD PARK THEM ON SITE WITHOUT PARKING GARAGES, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT YIELDED ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN UNITS AND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT PARKING SPOTS. AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO PUT THE PARKING RATIO WOULD BE.

BUT THAT WAS A FAIRLY TYPICAL PARKING RATIO FOR AROUND HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THE IDEA THERE IS THAT THIS IS B HOUSING UNITS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE MEDICAL AND STAFF OF THE HOSPITAL.

IT'S ALSO SOMEWHAT FITTING WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT IS THAT'S SURROUNDING IT.

THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT IDEA ON AND AGAIN TO THIS IS JUST A TEST FIT IS TO CONSIDER MORE DENSITY. AND WHAT IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER THAT YOU COULDN'T THAT WOULD WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT BEGINS TRIGGERING PARKING DECKS? AND THAT'S THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY UNITS.

AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A PARKING DECK.

WHAT THE SPECIFIC CONFIGURATION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT SUBJECT TO A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

BUT ESSENTIALLY ONCE YOU GET ABOVE THREE HUNDRED TWENTY OR SO, YOU'RE GOING TO THERE'S PARKING DECKS ARE GOING TO GET INVOLVED DEPENDING UPON AGAIN HOW YOU WHAT YOUR PARKING RATIO WOULD BE. AND THAT WAS AGAIN, THESE ARE TEST FITS JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD WE WOULD DO.

AND JUST SO IT'S CLEAR, ON FOR AREA FOUR, WHICH IS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT PD, WE WOULD WANT CLINICAL EDUCATIONAL TRAINING, RESEARCH AND SUPPORTING USES.

THERE I WOULDN'T LIMIT IT TO JUST CLINICAL.

THE VA IS A TEACHING FACILITY, THERE COULD BE THE NEED FOR ACADEMIC SPACE, THERE COULD BE THE NEED FOR NURSE TRAINING SPACE.

THERE COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES AND POTENTIAL NEEDS.

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THERE ALSO SERVICES TO THE TO THE VETERANS THAT MAY NOT FIT WITHIN A MEDICAL DEFINITION THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BE ALLOWED IN AND AROUND THIS AREA.

AND THEN THREE WAS BASICALLY A FIT, A TEST FIT CONCEPT OF WHAT WOULD A MAJOR CLINICAL OPERATION LOOK LIKE THAT HAD BEDS AND THAT WOULD STAFF AND SITE TWO WOULD FIT.

IT'S RIGHT UP HERE. WOULD FIT.

YOU COULD FIT ABOUT EIGHTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, AROUND EIGHTY BEDS.

ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY PARKING SPACES.

AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF SIZE AND AND SCALE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE THERE.

AND THAT COULD PARK ITSELF.

SO THEN WE GET TO THE IMPLEMENTATION AND SO THE FIRST STEP IN THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGE IS AND THIS IS OUR EXPERIENCE WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS, WHICH IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE CITY MANAGER AND ANOTHER PEOPLE.

BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DAY TO DAY PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED THROUGH THE HEALING GARDEN, WORKING WITH THE VA ON A LAND AGREEMENT TO USE A PORTION OF THEIR LAND.

AND THAT'S PART OF HOW WE GET TO THE HEALING GARDEN.

AND THAT PARK IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME WORK.

IT'S A FEDERAL PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK.

THE WALNUT VILLAGE IS GOING TO ALSO TAKE SOME WORK OF COMMUNICATING WITH NOT ONLY THE OWNER, BUT ALSO THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THERE ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS AND HOW TO PARTNER TO DO IT.

AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE MEDICAL OFFICE OWNERS, WITH OUR OWNERS, WHICH ARE NOW LIKELY TO BE THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER ON WHAT THAT SHARED USE CONNECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THAT DESIGN AND PIECES WOULD BE.

THE NEXT STEP IS OBVIOUSLY TO DRAFT A THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND BEGIN THAT PROCESS. THE DUCK CREEK PARK AND THE HEALING GARDEN PIECE, AGAIN, THAT WORKS.

THAT REQUIRES WORKING WITH THE VA.

THERE DOES NEED TO BE A MORE DETAILED CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

THE DRAWINGS THAT YOU SAW WE DID TO PASS THE SOLID LINE PATH WAS THE CITY'S IDEA OF WHERE IT GO WITH THE DOTTED LINE PATH IS WHERE WE THOUGHT IT COULD GO THEY'RE BOTH OPTIONS.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT.

ONE OF THEM WOULD REQUIRE A BRIDGE.

THERE'S ISSUES AROUND THE BRIDGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FLOOD RISK AND FLOOD DAMAGE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO SOME BRILLIANT EXAMPLES AROUND HERE OF THOSE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES AND THEN A BRAND IDENTITY FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.

THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN WORK ON THIS, WORKING WITH THE PROSPECTIVE OWNER OF THE SITE AROUND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, THE WALNUT STREET CONNECTION PEDESTRIAN BIKE PIECE.

AGAIN, AS WE SAID, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE DETAILED DESIGN.

THERE NEEDS TO BE THE RIGHT OF WAY ANALYSIS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE LOOK AT THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE PARKING RATIOS AND THEN HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THE DUCK CREEK TRAIL INTO THIS PIECE? AND THEN ON THE CURB APPEAL, AGAIN, THAT'S WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

OUR TAKE IS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE TEMPORARY PARK PROGRAM.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO INVENT SOMETHING.

SO THERE'S A MODEL THERE TO GO THROUGH IT.

OUR TAKE IS THAT THE CITY SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE THE HEALTH AND CURB APPEAL AND PRESENTATION, IF YOU WILL, OF A NUMBER OF A COMMERCIAL CENTERS ACROSS THE CITY ARE AN AREA OF FOCUS IS TO THINK OF THIS AS A DEMONSTRATION OR A PILOT PROJECT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS AND TO USE AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE RESOURCES.

WHETHER THEY'LL DO IT OUT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPEN QUESTION.

BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP.

SHILOH ROAD, AS WE SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S WAIT TO SEE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IN THIS LARGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF SHILOH AND THEN THE FEASIBILITY OF THE SHUTTLE.

AGAIN, IT'S THERE'S A COMPONENT INVOLVING THE VA AND SOME OF THE KEY PROPERTY OWNERS.

THERE IS SOME ANALYSIS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO SOME POTENTIAL VOLUMES.

IT ALSO DEPENDS UPON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FORREST JUPITER TRANSIT AREA PLAN AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE USES WOULD BE THERE.

BUT AS WE SAID, DART IS DOING SOME WORK RIGHT NOW ABOUT RECONFIGURING ITS ROUTE SYSTEM THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF TO A VIRTUAL SHUTTLE SYSTEM IN SOME FORM AS IT MOVES FORWARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP ON TOP OF.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK THERE'LL BE A FEW, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THAT THE DART PLAN OR THE RAIL WAY BACK? IT'S NOT A DART PLAN ITS OUR CONCEPT

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ONE NO, NO. BEFORE THAT, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.

LET'S LEAVE THAT ONE ON, OK? YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE LIBRARY IS MOVING? YES. OK, SO THAT'S NOT A RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS INTERNATIONAL IS A VERY STRAIGHT ROAD DOWN TO FORREST LANE AND ONLY A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE FORREST JUPITER STATION.

AND WHERE YOU'VE GOT THIS LAID OUT HERE, ZIGZAGGING AROUND AN INTERNATIONAL ROAD IS THERE'S A FAIRLY WIDE STREET TODAY.

CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES AND YOU STILL HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO DRIVE DOWN THERE I GO DOWN THAT ROAD FREQUENTLY.

AND IT'S IT'S A MORE DIRECT ACCESS POINT, IF YOU WILL, TO FORREST LANE AND OF COURSE, JUPITER. YOU DON'T ZIGZAGGING AROUND.

RIGHT. AND TURNING HERE AND TURNING THERE AND THE LIBRARY'S MOVING ANYWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO GO THAT WAY, I DON'T THINK.

YEAH. AND THIS IS THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF WHERE THERE ARE POTENTIAL STOPS ALONG THE WAY.

AND WE WILL CORRECT THIS TO FOR THE LIBRARY PIECE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ULTIMATELY ENDS UP HAPPENING IS COMPLETELY A FUNCTION OF A LOT OF THINGS.

SO WHAT THE FINAL CONFIGURATION WILL LOOK LIKE IS WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT IT MAY BE POSSIBLE AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF DEMAND GENERATORS IN THE AREA.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, AND THIS IS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE STOPPING AT BASICALLY SHILOH, BUT THIS DUCK CREEK GOES FURTHER NORTH AND THERE'S A GOLF COURSE HERE, OBVIOUSLY.

AND IT'D BE NICE IF THE CITY COULD WORK WITH THE GOLF COURSE AND HAVE SOME KIND OF A PATHWAY TO TIE INTO RICHARDSON'S, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO BELTLINE AND JUPITER, RICHARDSON HAS AS A MARVELOUS IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT COULD BE TIED TOGETHER.

BUT THAT'S A LOT OF WORKING AND NEGOTIATING WITH A DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK IN NEGOTIATING TO PULL THIS OFF.

YEAH, JUST THIS IN IN ITSELF.

AND THEN IF YOU GO SOUTH, THERE'S A DUCK CREEK GOES SOUTH AND THAT'S ALL IN GARLAND.

AND I'M NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S TRAIL PLAN, BUT I'M SURE THAT I REALIZE I THINK THE DUCK CREEK IS LIKE A KEY PIECE OF THAT.

AND WE ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE ASSET AND IT SHOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. IF YOU CAN GIVE ME ABOUT TWO MINUTES.

THE PLAN AND THE PLAN IS THOUGHTFUL AND WELL RESEARCHED AS IT RELATES TO THE GOALS OF THE CITYWIDE DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND POLICIES.

IT IS HELPFUL TO CONTINUE TO ADOPT A HOLISTIC APPROACH THAT CONTINUES TO CONSIDER ALL THE GOALS AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER.

THE PLAN INCORPORATES A VERY, VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA, AND THE STRATEGIC CHALLENGES ARE REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESILIENT AND ROBUST MEDICAL DISTRICTS, AVOIDING THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS OF A MONOCULTURE AREA.

AS YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED, THE PLAN ENCOURAGES A SPECTRUM OF OFFICE AND CULTURAL COMMUNITY SPACES SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S NEW DEVELOPMENT AT AROUND.

I BELIEVE IT'S BELTLINE.

I THINK WE'VE DONE SOME DEVELOPMENT AT THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.

THESE DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDE, AS THIS PLAN SEEKS TO DO, A RANGE OF RETAILERS REFLECTING THE NEEDS OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THE PEDESTRIAN PATHS AND THE HEALING GARDEN, OUR IMAGINATIVE APPROACHES THAT ENCOURAGE MULTIMODAL ACTIVITY FROM A VARIETY OF GENERATIONAL GROUPS. ONE THING THAT WOULD BE BUT WHAT THAT ONE WOULD HOPE IT COULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE INCLUSION OF THIS PLAN OR MAYBE IN THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IS FREE PUBLIC WI-FI AND BROADBAND ACCESS.

BUT ACCORDING TO CITY DATA, THERE IS NO PUBLIC WI-FI IN THAT AREA AND NO ACCESS POINT IN THAT AREA. AND THEY'RE ALL CLUSTERED IN THE DOWNTOWN REGION TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. ONE WONDERS IF WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION AND DEFINITION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WI-FI CAN BE CONSIDERED.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

THAT'S A REALLY GREAT CONCEPT.

THERE'S AN ISSUE, I THINK, POTENTIALLY WITH THE VA, BUT IT CAN PROBABLY BE MANAGED.

BUT THAT'S A REALLY GREAT CONCEPT, PARTICULARLY AT THE SHOPPING CENTER, TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT IT RIGHT THERE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE OUTDOORS AND ALONG THE TRAIL. ABSOLUTELY.

MAYBE EVEN SPREAD IT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH MIGHT INCREASE THEIR VALUES THERE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER.

LUCHT. THANK YOU MR.

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CHAIR YOU MENTIONED AND IN THIS DOESN'T AFFECT MY OPINION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE OF THE TYPE PATIENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE HEALING GARDEN IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THE VA IS KNOWN FOR FOCUSING IN GIVING HOSPITALS.

ONE MIGHT BE A MED SURG HOSPITAL ONE MIGHT BE A DOMICILIARY.

WHAT IS IT ABOUT THESE PATIENTS THAT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT ARE THESE TERMINAL? NO THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE.

THERE'S A THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACILITIES AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM THAT ARE GOING TO INVOLVE ELDERLY VETS, PTSD VETS, ORTHOPEDIC VETS.

SOME CANCER PATIENTS WHO ARE ALL GOING TO WANT RELIEF AND RELEASE.

EXCUSE ME. AND SO I THINK AND BE ABLE TO GET OUTSIDE AND THERE IS NO THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT AND THE CREEK IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE FRONTAGE ON IT.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

AND IF THE CITY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT ANYWAY, SO IT'S WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE SOMETHING REALLY UNIQUE AND REALLY SPECIAL, SORT OF A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. ABSOLUTELY.

I NOTICED SOUTH AND WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SHILOH AND WALNUT IS ANOTHER MEDICAL AREA. MM HMM.

I NOTICED THAT'S NOT MENTIONED HERE.

IT WAS NOT IN OUR WE WERE THAT THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE, IF YOU WILL.

OKAY. SO THE CITY DID NOT ASK FOR YOU TO EVEN LOOK INTO THAT.

HAPPY TO DO.

WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE HOSPITAL IS STILL THERE ANYMORE.

IT'S GONE. BUT THERE WAS A HOSPITAL THERE ALONG WITH SOME POBS AND OTHER FACILITIES OF SMALLER, DOCTORS' OFFICES AND SO FORTH.

I ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHEN I DID MY DRIVE VISIT IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID, LIKE LAST APRIL, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE MAY, I CALLED ANGELA AND I SAID, THIS ISN'T IN OUR DISTRICT.

RIGHT? AND SHE SAID, NO, IT'S JUST IT'S THE OTHER SIDE.

AND I'M LIKE, OK, SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE UTILIZATION IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THE CITY IS GOING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE, BUT WE WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY TASKED TO DO THAT.

OK, THIS AND THIS IS COMPLEX ENOUGH AS IT IS, BUT WE THINK IT'S COMPLETELY DOABLE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME FOCUS AND SOME TARGETED RESOURCES IN A FEW PLACES TO DO IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

HOW MANY RESTAURANTS EXIST IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER NOW? I THINK I KNOW OF ONE OR TWO.

IT'S LIKE A SUSHI PLACE AND A SEAFOOD RESTAURANT MAYBE.

THERE'S THREE IN THE PLACE.

AND THEN IF YOU COUNT THE FAST FOOD, THERE'S ANOTHER THREE.

AND THEN I THINK THE GROCERY STORE ALSO HAS LIKE A LITTLE CAFé.

SO THERE'S SIX TO SIX IN THAT RANGE.

ARE THERE ANY VACANCIES FOR RESTAURANT? OPPORTUNITIES? I'M SEEING STAFF NODDING I DON'T THERE IS YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE IS EITHER.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE AS WELL.

SO AROUND THE PARKLET AREAS OR THE LITTLE DINING AREAS THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO PUT LIKE A FOOD TRUCK HOOKUP OF ANY KIND TO ALLOW? NO, NO, YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD.

THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM AND IT'S A CITY POLICY AND LANDLORD QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CITY'S POLICY RELATED TO THOSE THINGS? AND THEN WHAT IS THE AND DOES THE LANDLORD WANT TO DO IT AND WHAT THOSE TENANTS THINK.

THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU.

I HAVE MY NORMAL LIST OF QUESTIONS AND HAVE A VERY, VERY WELL DONE PLAN AND VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND LIKE COMMISSIONER JENKINS SAID WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

TO ME, ONE OF THE MAIN CRITERIA IS WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE VA? YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PHASED IMPLEMENTATION AND NONE OF THAT'S ADDRESSED IN HERE.

SO THE REST OF REALLY CAN'T BE TAKEN IN CONTEXT WITHOUT KNOWING.

AND YOU HINTED THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN TERMS OF TERMINAL PATIENTS AND STUFF.

SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD IN THE REPORT, TOO.

AND PART OF MY COMMENTS ARE FOR WHEN YOU PRESENT TO COUNCIL, MAYBE TO HELP OUT WITH.

YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

I THINK ONE OF THE DYNAMICS IS THAT THE VA DOESN'T KNOW FOR SURE AND I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE VA ON THAT.

BUT WE DO KNOW WHERE WE DO KNOW WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE.

IT'S A QUESTION OF MONEY, RESOURCES AND OVER WHAT TIME FRAME.

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LET'S SEE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY GREAT TO WORK WITH, ACTUALLY, AND VERY HONEST ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO AND THIS MAY BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF FOR CONSIDERATION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED NOW. IS INDUSTRIAL ACTUALLY A GOOD ZONING FOR HOLDING ARE THERE THINGS THAT COULD GO IN THERE THAT WE DON'T WANT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK STAFF WOULD NEED AND YOU ADDRESSED THAT IT'S UNDER CONTRACT, SOME OF THAT STUFF. AND YOU ALSO ADDRESSED IT.

YOU DID LOOK AT THE GARLAND TRAIL PLAN.

YES. OK, GOOD, BECAUSE I WAS ON PART OF THAT.

SO AND ON THE BUS STOP ALONG SHILOH, ONE THING TO POSSIBLY CONSIDER, INSTEAD OF JUST STOPPING THE BUS ON SHILOH PUTTING IN A SEPARATE KIND OF.

OFF TO THE SIDE LANE, BECAUSE PATIENTS THERE ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER TO GET ON AND OFF A BUS, AND IF WE CAN DO A SIDELINE FOR THE BUSSES, THAT WOULD HELP TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE PREFERRED OK THINGS FOR THE VA.

YEAH. AND POWERPLANT YOU ADDRESSED.

AND YOU'RE PLANNING ON BIKE LANES AND STUFF.

NOW, WHOSE SHUTTLE? I KNOW THIS IS ALL NEGOTIATIONS VA CITY SHARED.

WHO WOULD OR DART WHO WOULD DO THE SHUTTLE? MY GUESS IS IT'S GOING TO BE SOME COMBINATION OF THOSE, BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW AT THIS POINT . AND SPEAKING OF THAT, IN THE LOOP THAT YOU WERE SHOWING, THERE WAS NOT A DIRECT CONNECTION FROM DOWNTOWN STRAIGHT OUT TO THE HOSPITAL.

THEY HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND AND EVERYTHING TO GET THERE YET AGAIN.

I THINK THAT LOOP, IT'S A CONCEPT OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

IT'S NOT WHAT THE ACTUAL ROUTE IS.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD THINK OF IT JUST LIKE THE TEST RIGHT SCENARIOS.

IT'S LIKE, OK, HERE'S HOW YOU WOULD DO IT.

AND THEN ONCE IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DESIGN.

YEAH, LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT.

AND WITH THE KIND OF PATIENTS YOU DESCRIBED, THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE IN PAIN AND EVERYTHING. ANY OTHER RIDDEN THE TRAIN.

AND JUST IF WE CAN SHORTEN THAT BUS RIDE TO GET THEM DIRECTLY TO THE HOSPITAL, THEY WOULD HELP IN TERMS OF PARKING.

YEAH, IF WE CAN RECLAIM THAT, PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AND IF IN A CONCEPT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D WORK WITH LANDOWNERS AND EVERYTHING, IF WE COULD DO JUST AN OVERALL PARKING AGREEMENT FOR THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE WE CAN TIME SHIFT PARKING AS NEEDED.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FULL PARKING FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT MAY OPEN UP MORE LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH, THAT COULD ACTUALLY WORK AGAIN, THE VA DOES HAVE SPECIFIC SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE. BUT HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY ELSE, I THINK WOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING. YEAH. AND YOU HINTED AT THIS MAYBE COMING UP WITH THE FAçADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

AND I DID APPRECIATE THE MENTION IN THERE THAT A HOTEL, POSSIBLY A HOTEL FOR FAMILIES TO STAY. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU WANTING TO HOLD LAND FOR MEDICAL RIGHT NOW.

IN TODAY'S MARKET, RESIDENTIAL IS LOW HANGING FRUIT IN A DEVELOPMENT TREE.

AND IF WE CAN HOLD THAT OUT, MAYBE BECAUSE WHERE THOSE APARTMENTS ARE GOING IN NORTH NOW THAT WE'RE RECENTLY REZONED THAT ORIGINALLY WAS ASSISTED LIVING IN A REHAB FACILITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ON THAT PLACE WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT MULTIFAMILY ESPECIALLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ORTHOPEDIC CANCER PATIENTS AND STUFF, AND MAYBE THEY'RE LIVING IN ASSISTED LIVING OR A REHAB FACILITY ON THAT LAND.

AND THAT GIVES THEM QUICK ACCESS BACK AND FORTH.

AND IT KIND OF PROVIDES A TRIFECTA PLACE TO GET A SERVICE PLACE TO LIVE.

AND YEAH, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE OVER ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX.

AND NO, I THINK, CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE HITTING ON ONE OF THE FACTS.

THAT'S REALLY IT'S THIS IS GOING TO SOUND STRANGE, BUT IN A WORLD WHERE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THE ONE FACT THAT WE KNOW IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO HAVING THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THE FUTURE, SO TO SPEAK, IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE, AGAIN, THOSE WERE JUST IDEAS OF LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO DO THIS, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO FIT.

OBVIOUSLY, IF IT BECOMES AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY OR SOMETHING, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS COME DOWN AND MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO BUILD A DECK.

RIGHT. SO BUT IT WAS BASICALLY GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU COULD PUT ON THIS WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MORE OR LESS HAVE NOW. AND SOME OF IT'S A GUIDE FOR THE WISH LIST FOR THE PD THAT WOULD GO IN IN THE FUTURE. AND, UH, AND AGAIN, THE MARKET'S GOING TO DICTATE ULTIMATELY WHAT GOES IN THERE.

WE CAN WISH TO OUR HEART'S CONTENT, BUT THE MARKET'S GOING TO GO.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT GIVES YOU SOME CONTROL OVER THE OUTCOME.

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BUT, YEAH, THERE WAS A DEAL THAT WAS GOING TO GO IN UP NORTH AND THE VA HADN'T TAKEN OVER THE HOSPITAL AT THAT TIME.

SO IT PROBABLY DIED FOR LACK OF A FACILITY NEARBY.

YEAH.

OK, AND AGAIN, KIND OF TO MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS IN THAT OTHER CASE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN PUT IMPACT FEES TO WORK DOWN IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD HELP, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER SOURCE OF INCOME. BUT NO THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT POPPED IN MY MIND AS I WAS READING THROUGH.

VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IN THAT CASE, WE WILL RECESS UNTIL OUR 7 O'CLOCK MEETING.

THANK YOU.

[ Invocation & Pledge of Allegiance]

PLEDGE, YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO OR NOT TO IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.

NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL.

TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS.

LET US PRAY. OUR HEAVENLY FATHER WE JUST COME TO YOU TODAY LORD JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US.

WE JUST ASK YOU TO BE WITH US AS WE HEAR THESE MOTIONS TODAY.

TONIGHT. OH, LORD.

JUST HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THEM AND FOR THE CITY.

LORD, WE JUST ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND BE WITH THE ARMED FORCES HERE AND OVERSEAS. ALL THIS WE ASK IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.

THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WELL, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

AND IT'S SO GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE CHAMBERS HERE WHERE WE CAN HAVE REAL LIVE PEOPLE TALKING TO US AND WE HAVE SOME NEW EQUIPMENT HERE AND SOME NEW PROCEDURES.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US AS WE MOVE ALONG.

BUT FIRST, TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE NEW COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE, MARGARET LUCHT.

COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY.

AND LET'S SEE PART OF THE NEW DEAL IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

WE'VE GOT SOME KIOSKS OUT IN THE LOBBY THERE.

IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND TYPE IN ALL THE STUFF THEY ASK FOR, THAT'LL SHOW UP IN THE CITY SECRETARY, PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY AND SHE WILL BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR NAME EXCUSE ME.

AND THOSE KIOSKS ARE KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO AN AIRPORT AND YOU SIGN IN AT A CERTAIN AIRLINE, YOU USE THOSE KIOSKS SAME KIND OF THING.

PRETTY SIMPLE TO DO. NOW, THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY, SHE'LL BE CALLING OUT THE NAMES.

AND IF WE HAVE ANYBODY COMING IN ON ZOOM BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CHIME IN ON ZOOM, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBERS TALK FIRST AND THEN WE GO TO THE ZOOM PEOPLE EXCUSE ME. PRESENTERS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

OTHER SPEAKERS WERE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SAY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WE'LL DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME. AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP, SHOULD WE NEED TO ADDRESS ANYTHING.

WE WILL START WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.

[Consent Agenda]

AND A CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING FOR ON ONE MOTION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ OUT THE ITEMS ANY COMMISSIONER WISHES TO MOVE AN ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

LET ME KNOW. SAME THING HOLDS TRUE TO THE AUDIENCE.

ANYBODY THERE WANTS TO HEAR AN ITEM CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

LET ME KNOW. EXCUSE ME ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLANNED COMMISSION MINUTES FOR JUNE 28, 2021.

ITEM TWO A PLATS TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE QT NINE SIX TWO EDITION REPLAT.

ANYBODY WISHING AN ITEM REMOVED? SEEING NONE THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

AND IF YOU'LL PRESS THE MOTION BUTTON, SEE IF IT POPS UP.

COMMISSIONER EDWARDS AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS BOTH YOUR LIGHTS YEAH PRESS PROMOTION BUTTON AND THEN JUST SPEAK UP.

CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. AND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

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ALREADY ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE, THIS IS TO APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER O'HARA, I NEED YOU TO PUNCH A BUTTON AGAIN IF YOU CAN.

COMPUTER DOESN'T LIKE YOU.

OK, ALRIGHTY, Y'ALL CAN GO AHEAD AND SHOW US HOW IT WENT.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

NOW, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, WE HAVE A ZONING CASE, IT'S IN TWO PARTS I'LL

[Items 3.a. & 3.b.]

READ OUT BOTH PARTS WE'LL BE CONSIDERING THEM THROUGH ONE MOTION.

ZONING ITEM THREE, A CONSIDERATION APPLICATION OF TEWELDE ABREHAM REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AMENDMENT TO ALLOW TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AS 18-43 FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3877 MILLER PARK DRIVE ITEM THREE B CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION TO TEWELDE ABREHAM REQUEST APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 3877 MILLER PARK DRIVE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MISPRONOUNCING NAMES.

I AM AN EXPERT AT THAT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? HAVE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK, COME ON UP AND YOU CAN FILL OUT A CARD OR. GO TO THE KIOSK LATER, OR WE CAN JUST.

PROCEED IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OK, THE APPLICANTS HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WISHING ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO. OK, GENTLEMEN, THE APPLICANTS HERE, WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS.

CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, WHEN YOU CAME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2018 TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR YOUR PLAN.

IF I CAN GET YOU TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE AND THEN WE'LL GET YOU TO FILL OUT A CARD LATER.

YOU SOUGHT VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT MADE YOU RECONSIDER YOUR INITIAL PLAN? WHY NOW, THREE YEARS LATER, ARE WE SEEKING TO EXPAND? YEAH SINCE THE BUSINESS STARTED, SINCE WE OPENED IT, IT'S BEEN GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.

AND THE TRUCKS THAT WE TIME TO TIME. AND THE EXPENSE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR RENTING FOR PARKING THE 18 WHEELER TRUCKS BEEN REALLY RIDICULOUSLY HIGH AND MIGHT AS WELL CONSTRUCT AND BUILD OUR OWN PARKING LOT. SO THAT CAME AS A BUSINESS PLAN.

THANK YOU. AND CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL, PLEASE? 3877 MILLER.

LET ME ASK THE STAFF A QUESTION AND FOLLOW UP TO YOUR QUESTION.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT OWNER COMING FORTH IS IT NOT.

SURE. GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BEFORE IN THE COUNCIL.

IT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT.

I GOT THE DIFFERENT PERSON FROM THE REPORT.

MY FAULT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

ANY OTHER, MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE BOTH SECTIONS OF THIS REQUEST SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.

YES. ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR SECOND? WAS THAT FROM COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES SIR AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVED THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION REVISION AND THE REVISED PLAN.

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ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

SURE. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND SHOW IT WHENEVER.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, THANK YOU.

LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A MISCELLANEOUS CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON

[4A. Consideration and possible recommendation on the Medical District Area Plan.]

THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US BY STAFF DURING OUR PRE MEETING AND CAN BE VIEWED IT WAS ON TELEVISION AND IT WILL BE VIEWABLE ON THE REPLAY.

I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT OR AND WHAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THE BAYLOR HOSPITAL, WHICH WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, IS NOW A VA HOSPITAL.

THE CITY HAS COMMISSIONED A SPECIALIZED CONSULTANT TO REVIEW THE AREA AROUND THERE TO RECOMMEND WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT IS BEST, HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THE VA HOSPITAL BEING THERE IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT, NEW DEVELOPMENT, FIXING THINGS, BETTER TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IS VERY THOROUGH AND DETAILED REPORT.

AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE WEBSITE AND CLICK ON OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT AND SEE THEIR PRESENTATION IN PDF FORMAT.

SO YOU CAN DO THAT TOO.

SO, GENTLEMEN, I THINK IT'S OUR TASK TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, FORWARD IT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I'D LIKE TO DO THAT WITH THE VOTE IF I COULD.

COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, DID YOU CHIME IN OR WERE YOU STILL AT TIME? COUNCIL. AND COMMISSION COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

YOU DIDN'T HIT QUITE HIT IT.

RIGHT, BUT I SAW.

I SECOND THE MOTION. OK, WE NEED A FIRST FIRST MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR A FOR REVIEW FOR CITY COUNCIL AS PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING.

OK, AND THAT THE COUNCIL CAN LOOK AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING TO SEE OUR NOTES AND SUGGESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT, MAYBE OUT OF ORDER, BUT IT'S STILL GOOD ANY DISCUSSION? I RUN A TIGHT MEETING, FOLKS.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

EXCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN. YES, UM, WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH OUR DISPLAY SO VOTE BY HAND.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THE OLD FASHIONED METHOD, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION TO PASS IT FORWARD. YES, GO AHEAD.

THERE YOU GO. FORGIVE ME, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I'D LIKE TO GO AND INCLUDE THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE DURING THE WORK SESSION FOR THE PUBLIC'S CONSIDERATION.

THE PLAN IS VERY WELL RESEARCHED AND VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AS IT RELATES TO THE GOALS OF THE CITYWIDE DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND POLICIES IT'S HELPFUL TO CONTINUE TO ADOPT THAT HOLISTIC APPROACH THAT CONSIDERS ALL THE GOALS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER.

THE PLAN INCORPORATES A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA AND THE STRATEGIC CHALLENGES ARE REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR A RESILIENT AND ROBUST DISTRICT, AVOIDING THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS OF A MONOCULTURAL DISTRICT AREA.

AS WAS INDICATED, THE PLAN ENCOURAGES A SPECTRUM OF OFFICE AND CULTURAL COMMUNITY SPACES SIMILAR TO OTHER CITIES.

A RANGE OF RETAILERS REFLECTING THE NEEDS OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE PRESENT.

THE PEDESTRIAN PATHS AND HEALING GARDEN ARE IMAGINATIVE APPROACHES THAT ENCOURAGE A MULTIMODAL ACTIVITY FROM A SPECTRUM OF GENERATIONS THAT THE CITY IS HOME TO.

ONE THING THAT IT IS HOPED COULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE INCLUSION OF THE PLAN IS FREE PUBLIC WI-FI OR BROADBAND ACCESS.

ACCORDING TO THE CITY DATA, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC WI-FI ACCESS POINTS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT AREA. THEY ARE CLUSTERED MOSTLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, ONE WONDERS IF WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION AND DEFINITION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WI-FI COULD AT SOME POINT BE CONSIDERED.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, FOR THE TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THERE'S MUCH BETTER AND MORE CONCISE SUMMARY THAN MY OFF THE CUFF ONE THERE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?

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SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO USE A SHOW OF HANDS TO VOTE ON THIS.

OH, IT'S WORKING NOW.

WE HAVE IT WORKING NOW. ALL RIGHT.

SEE, YOUR COMMENT SERVED A SECONDARY PURPOSE.

BOUGHT TIME FOR STAFF THERE.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY, THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JULY 26TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.