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GOOD EVENING.

[Call to Order]

IT IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 2021, AND WE HAVE CONVENED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS CITIZENS COMMENTS RELATED TO THE 21-22 PROPOSED BUDGET AND AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

COUNCIL, AT THIS TIME, I HAVE NO ONE, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

BUT I WILL SAY, IF THERE IS ANYONE, WE WILL, IT'S GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE].

WE'RE HAVING PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW, BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE END.

SO IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO SO.

AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE FOR THAT.

SO WE WILL UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM TWO COUNCIL DISCUSSION

[2. Council discussion/deliberation on the FY 2021-22 Proposed Budget.]

DELIBERATIONS ON FY2122 PROPOSED BUDGET.

I'M GUESSING THAT THE SORT OF OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS OR DIRECT ORDER OF BUSINESS ON THIS ARE THE, THERE WERE SEVERAL POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT OUR MEETING LAST THURSDAY.

AND STAFF HAS PROVIDED SOME ANSWERS AND SOME DETAILED INFORMATION.

SO MR., BRADFORD, I WAS JUST PLANNING ON GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE TAKE OFF? WELL, WE WERE THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES, AND ALISON HAS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WHERE WE'RE SHE'LL BRIEFLY REVIEW WHAT WAS WAS SENT TO THE COUNCIL AND THE WRITTEN COMMENTS AND ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS COUNCIL MIGHT NEED TO BE AWARE OF TO HELP WALK US THROUGH THIS.

ALL RIGHT, ALISON, GO AHEAD.

[INAUDIBLE] MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN.

[INAUDIBLE] MY SCREEN NOW.

YES, PERFECT.

FIRST ON OUR ITEMS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND DELIBERATE ON TONIGHT IS NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES MEMBERSHIP.

THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY SERVICES TO ITS MEMBERS.

NLC HAS FEDERAL ADVOCACY COMMITTEE'S CONSTITUENCY GROUPS AND CAUCUSES, AS WELL AS MEMBER COUNCILS, TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE COMMITTEES, GROUPS AND COUNCILS THE MUNICIPALITY MUST HAVE AN ACTIVE MEMBERSHIP PAID IN FULL.

GARLAND ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRST TIER SUBURBS MEMBER COUNCILS PREVIOUSLY AND POSSIBLY OTHER COMMITTEES.

NLC HOSTS TWO CONFERENCES.

THE CONGRESSIONAL CITY CONFERENCE IS HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC EACH MARCH AND THE CITY SUMMIT EACH NOVEMBER.

YOU CAN ATTEND THE BIANNUAL CONFERENCES WITHOUT AN ACTIVE MEMBERSHIP, GARLAND DUES WOULD BE FOURTEEN THOUSAND SIXTY FOUR DOLLARS BASED ON THE CITY'S POPULATION OF THE LATEST CENSUS.

SO FOR THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS SEEKING DIRECTION IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE NLC MEMBERSHIP TO THE FY 2021-22 PROPOSED BUDGET.

OK, I THINK WE'LL JUST GO.

IS THIS THE LAST SLIDE ON THIS TOPIC? YES, SIR.

OK, LET'S GO AHEAD AND UNSHARE BRIEFLY HERE.

AND I THINK I JUST GOT A MESSAGE.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS LOST CONNECTION.

I THINK SHE'S, NOPE, THERE SHE IS.

SHE'S BACK.

OKAY, AND LET'S SEE MR. COUNCIL MEMBER VERA HAS JOINED US AS WELL.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO WE'RE ALL HERE.

SO COUNCIL, YOU'VE YOU'VE SEEN THE INFORMATION ON NLC AT THIS POINT, IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DO WE NEED TO MOVE? OK.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AH YEAH, I'D LIKE TO FIRST TO YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THIS AND THEN MOVE ON TO WHAT I CONSIDER SOME MORE SEVERE MATTERS.

THANK YOU, ALISON, FOR PULLING TOGETHER, THIS INFORMATION.

THIS IS NOT I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY NOT A COST ISSUE OR BUDGET ISSUE.

NLC, FORTUNATELY, I MEAN, FORTUNATELY, I WAS WHAT IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE SERVED ON

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THEIR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT SAYS THAT IF WE ARE MEMBERS OF NLC, AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MUST ATTEND ALL MEETINGS AND MUST PARTICIPATE UNLESS OPTIONAL.

I THINK MY SENTIMENTS ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN.

I THINK THE MEMBERSHIP IS VERY BENEFICIAL, IN OUR BUSINESS TO GET THINGS DONE YOU NEED ALLIES, DOESN'T MATTER YOUR LEVEL OF RESOURCES OR YOUR INGENUITY, OR YOUR STAFF.

NLC WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US GARLAND BRING THE 685 PROJECT HOME WITH THEIR NETWORK, WITH THEIR ABILITY TO FACILITATE AND GIVE GARLAND ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, ACCESS [INAUDIBLE] TRANSPORTATION, SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, AND AFFECTING THE TRIP.

HELPING US TO GET OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THE THEN SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TO GARLAND TO ACTUALLY DRIVE 635 IN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC AND REALLY PUT NATIONAL ATTENTION ON THAT PROJECT.

SO AND TO HELP US PULL TOGETHER A PARTNERSHIP THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO THE FINANCE PROJECT.

AND LASTLY, THE EPICENTER OF THAT PROJECT WAS REALLY NOT GARLAND.

IT WAS A NEIGHBOR OF OURS TO THE SOUTH, FRANKLY, WAS THE LAKE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THE LAKE HIGHLAND CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WHICH BECAME THE EPICENTER OF THAT PROJECT.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WASN'T HERE I DON'T KNOW WHY THE MEMBERSHIP WAS DROPPED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

MAYOR, YOU GET CONSENSUS AND WE WILL MOVE ON.

BUT I JUST THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL.

THERE WERE SEVERAL GARLAND COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT AND SEVERAL COMMITTEES.

THE OPPORTUNITY, AS WELL AS THE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT, AND LASTLY, THERE IS A ONE TRILLION DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE BILL COMING DOWN THE PIPE.

AND THOSE MONEYS ARE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED, AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO AUSTIN.

AND I FEEL THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THOSE FUNDS, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED ALLIES TO HELP US BENEFIT FROM THOSE FUNDS.

AND MY GRANDFATHER TOLD ME ONCE THAT IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE TABLE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO END UP ON THE MENU.

AND I DON'T WANT GARLAND TO END UP ON THE MENU.

SO, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MAYOR.

THANK YOU, OK, VERY GOOD.

EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL LADY MORRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS COMMENTS.

I HAVE A BASIC PROBLEM WITH US PAYING ANOTHER ALMOST FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY FOR A MEMBERSHIP.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGETED FOR TRAVEL FOR NLC TO ENABLE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OR AND OR ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO TO MULTIPLE NLC CONFERENCES, SHOULD THEY WISH TO DO THAT, TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CITIZEN MONEY TO JUST HAVE A MEMBERSHIP THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS TWICE SAID NO TO IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND I KNOW IN YEARS PAST THE COUNCIL WAS PRETTY BIG IN THE TRAVELING HITHER AND YON AND DOING A LOT OF THAT.

BUT THE CITIZENRY HAS KIND OF SPOKEN PRETTY LOUDLY THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY CRAZY ABOUT US DOING THAT WITH THEIR FUNDING.

SO I WOULD PREFER US TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS TO NOT REJOIN NLC.

TO LEAVE THE THIRTEEN THOUSAND THERE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TRAVEL THERE.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, WITH THE MEMBERSHIP ON COMMITTEES, BECAUSE OF OUR TERM LIMITS HERE IN GARLAND, THERE ISN'T REALLY TIME FOR ANY ONE OF US WHO EVEN WERE TO JOIN A COMMITTEE THERE TO PROGRESS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS TO A POSITION OF MUCH INFLUENCE.

I JUST DON'T SEE DOING IT.

I DON'T SEE MAKING THAT AN EXPENDITURE.

AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THIS ISN'T A HUGE ISSUE IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET.

BUT I WILL JUST GO ON RECORD AS SAYING, I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS AGREED BEFORE WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP ANYMORE, AND I'M STILL THERE.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OK, EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN ROBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT THESE ARE VALUABLE THINGS FOR US TO GO TO.

HAVING GONE TO TWO OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITY MEETINGS, I HAVEN'T GONE TO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE MEETINGS.

THESE CONFERENCES PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN BEST PRACTICES AND GET IDEAS, GET SOME SYNERGIES THAT WE DON'T OTHERWISE HAVE.

YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL WORK THAT WE DID ON HOMELESSNESS BACK IN 2017 WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT I LEARNED FROM A CONFERENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY CONFERENCE THAT YOU GO TO, IF YOU'RE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING, YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BRING HOME.

AND IF WE'RE NOT CAPABLE OF SELLING THAT VALUE TO OUR CITIZENS, AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE IN THE WRONG LINE OF WORK.

THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO BE HAD IN MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS.

NOW, SOME OF THEM ARE WHAT WOULD MR. WILLIAMS REFERS TO, MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHO YOU ARE, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR CITY.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE HEAD OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCOMMITTEE IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT KIND OF CONNECTIVITY.

BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE MEMBERS, A MEMBER, SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE PART OF ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES, AND I THINK IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL EXPENSE.

BUT THAT WORK THAT WE DO LOOKING OUTWARD, FROM OUR CITY IS VALUABLE TO US.

I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THAT SAME THING IN BEING ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN THE RTC.

WE'VE SEEN MORE MONEY FLOW TO THE CITY FOR PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AS FOR THE SPECIFICS, I DID NOT REALIZE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT NLC HAD MUCH TO DO WITH WITH SIX THIRTY FIVE.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY HANDS THAT GO INTO, YOU KNOW, MAKING MAKING THE SAUSAGE, REALLY OVER TWO BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT YOU NEED, ALL OF THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT YOU CAN GET.

YOU NEED TO LEVERAGE ALL OF THAT TO MOVE THOSE MASSIVE PROJECTS.

AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS MEMBERSHIP GOING FORWARD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE IN WASHINGTON, D.C..

IT'S A GREAT CONFERENCE AND I THINK IT'S VERY ENGAGING.

WE LEARNED A LOT FROM IT.

SO I DO SUPPORT US, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MEMBERSHIP THAT WAS KILLED BASICALLY TWO BUDGET CYCLES AGO, KIND OF IN THE DARK OF NIGHT WITHOUT REALLY ANY DISCUSSION, WITHOUT EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION.

AND SO I'D BE VERY PLEASED TO SEE IT COME BACK.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MAYOR, PRO TEM HEDRICK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS [INAUDIBLE].

I'D RATHER SEE THESE, THAT FUNDING INVEST IN OTHER THINGS.

JUST FOR EXAMPLE, ONE ITEM MAY OR MAY NOT GET FUNDED TONIGHT ON OUR [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSIONS LATER IS THAT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MENTORSHIP PROGRAM FUNDING TO THE NLC, IT WOULD FUND THREE YEARS WORTH OF THAT.

AND I'D RATHER SEE US REINVEST THOSE FUNDS IN OUR CITY AND BUILDING FUTURE LEADERS THERE, THEN HAVING A MEMBERSHIP IN THAT ORGANIZATION.

I KNOW IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, IT STILL DOES NOT PRECLUDE US, HAVING MEMBERSHIP OR NOT DOES NOT PRECLUDE ONE OF US FROM STILL ATTENDING ONE OF THOSE EVENTS.

SO I'D RATHER SEE THAT MONEY REINVESTED IN OUR CITY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

FOR THE NLC, NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE, PAY THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND BE A MEMBER TO GO TO THE MEETINGS.

THAT IS TRUE.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.

AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, HAVING ONLY BEEN ON THE COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF NLC SINCE I HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS VALUABLE.

HOW MUCH DID WE UTILIZE IT WHEN WE WERE MEMBERS AND WHAT BENEFIT DO YOU GET YOU KNOW BY PAYING THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND AS OPPOSED TO NOT PAYING IT.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT DO WE GET FOR THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING? AND ARE WE UTILIZING I MEAN, JUST TO BE A MEMBER OF SOMETHING, IS IT GOING TO AMOUNT TO A HILL OF BEANS IF WE DON'T UTILIZE THAT YOU KNOW.

THE ONE THING IN LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION ON NLC, THERE HAVE GOT A LOT OF

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INFORMATION ON THERE ABOUT GRANTS.

YOU KNOW, HAVE WE EVER UTILIZED IN THE PAST THAT WE UTILIZE THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE TO HELP US GET MORE GRANTS? I MEAN, ARE WE I GUESS FOR ME, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR THE MONEY WE SPEND AND ARE WE DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING TO MEETINGS WHICH WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO GO TO.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. MAYOR, IF YOU, IF THERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN THE QUEUE, I'LL YIELD.

I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, SIR.

OK ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

JUST [INAUDIBLE] RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE YEAH YOU CAN ATTEND NLC WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER, HOWEVER, YOU CAN NOT AS [INAUDIBLE] YOU CANNOT PARTICIPATE ON NLC OPERATES, MUCH LIKE WE DO, THROUGH A COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, AND YOU CANNOT NOT BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE.

YOU GOING TO NLC CONFERENCE WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PACKING YOUR BAGS AND GOING TO DFW WITHOUT A TICKET, OR RESERVATION.

YOU CAN GO THERE, YOU CAN OBSERVE, BUT YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE.

AND LASTLY TO COUNCILMAN BASS'S POINT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN POINT TO LIKE I SAID, WAS THE INVOLVEMENT OF OF A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR AND THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND THE TANGIBLE PAYOFFS AGAIN, THAT I TURN TO IS WHAT YOU SEE JUST OUTSIDE OF US OF THE SIX THIRTY FIVE PROJECT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK MORE WITH YOU OFFLINE ON THAT.

BUT THAT WAS HUGE AND I USED THE WORDS THAT I'D USE IS ACCESS.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO SOME FOLKS THAT YOU DON'T NORMALLY HAVE ACCESS TO.

AND THE BOTTOM LINE ON THE ON THAT PROJECT WAS, HAD IT NOT BEEN FUNDED WHEN IT WAS WOULD HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 10 YEARS BEFORE IT WOULD HAVE EVEN WOULDN'T COME UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO IT WAS ABOUT ACCESS AND IT WAS ABOUT INVOLVEMENT.

SO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN I MEAN, YOU CAN SHOW UP, YOU CAN SHOW UP AND REGISTER AND SIT IN AN AUDIENCE AND OBSERVE THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME AND A WASTE OF RESOURCES.

AND THAT WAS NOT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PAID OUT FOR THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WHAT PAID OFF FOR US, FOR OUR CITY WAS INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.

AND IT WAS CRUCIAL, WE NEEDED EVERY BIT OF IT AND WE COULD NOT, AGAIN, I WILL JUST REITERATE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] HAD WE NOT DEVELOPED THOSE PARTNERSHIPS ON THE NLC SO.

BUT I'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PLEASURE, THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO, SO BE IT.

BUT I THINK THE ORGANIZATION IN AND OF ITSELF HAS [INAUDIBLE] AND LIKE I SAID, I WOULD NOT ATTEND IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO BECOME A MEMBER, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT EXPEND ANY TAXPAYERS MONEY TO GO TO NLC OR TML [INAUDIBLE] MEMBERSHIP JUST TO BE A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WHERE I COULD NOT PARTICIPATE, GET INFORMATION, BRING IT BACK TO THIS COUNCIL AND IT CITIZENRY, THAT WOULD BENEFIT THIS CITY JUST GOING AND SHOWING UP, THAT'S JUST NOT IT'S, YOU KNOW, NO OFFENSE TO RELIGION BUT THAT'S JUST LIKE WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL BENCH MEMBERS.

I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR ROLE IF WE'RE NOT GOING AS COUNCILMAN AUBIN SAID AND GETTING INFORMATION AND BRINGING THAT INFORMATION BACK FOR THAT FOR THE WELLNESS OF GARLAND, THEN THERE'S NO NEED, YOU KNOW, SO WHATEVER THE PAGE OF THIS COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, ON THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE WITH ME, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

BUT THE FRUITS, THE FRUITS ARE SHOWN.

THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME GOING ON EXAMPLES THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT NOW.

WE JUST NEED TO.

MAYOR, GET WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS IS ON THIS.

BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT OF THE MINDSET TO JUST SHOW UP AND SAT IN AN AUDIENCE.

I THINK THAT IS A MISUSE OF CITIZENS, OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

AND THERE'S NO BENEFITS TO US SINCE WE CAN WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, TO LEARN FROM ATTEND TRAINING SESSIONS AND BECOME ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SAUSAGE IS GROUND AT NLC.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

WE GO BACK TO THE UNMUTE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE CITY MANAGER OR ANYONE ELSE THAT THIS IS A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE RIGHT DOWN TO OUR VERY LAST NICKEL BETWEEN BUDGET AND ARPA.

AND DOING THIS MEANS WE'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

IN OUR IN OUR TOTAL BUDGET OF OVER 700 MILLION DOLLARS, WE'RE SPENDING AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT A FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLAR ITEM, AND WHICH DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T.

SURE, THAT'S FINE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT DON'T GET AS MUCH INVESTIGATION AS THIS.

AND SO I'M I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTIVE IS FOR THAT.

BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL ROLL OFF THE, I HAVE NO PLAN TO GO TO THE NLC IN MARCH BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING IN TIME TO OPERATIONALIZE IT HERE ON COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS.

BUT TO ME, TO USE AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SPEND FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO MENTOR AND TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT BEING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO SPEND FOURTEEN THOUSAND FOR OUR OWN EDIFICATION IS DEEPLY TROUBLING TO ME.

WE AS A COUNCIL, WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN IN EVERY CITY OR MUNICIPALITY.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE SOLUTIONS ARE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.

AND AND WE CERTAINLY CANNOT BE SAID TO HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS.

AND SO I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EDIFY ITSELF, TO LEARN ABOUT THESE THINGS AND REALIZE THAT THAT'S AN ACTUAL VALUE THAT WE BRING BACK HOME TO OUR CITIZENS JUST TO HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE.

HAVING A COUNCIL THAT IS EDUCATED AND THAT HAS LEARNED ABOUT THE PROCESSES AND LEARNED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IS AN INCREDIBLY VALUABLE THING TO OUR CITIZENS.

AND OCCASIONALLY, IF WE FIND IT IN THE POLICIES THAT WE ULTIMATELY IMPLEMENT, WE FIND IT IN THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE BUILD THAT ARE ABLE TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY INTO THIS CITY.

AND SO I THINK IT'S A VERY SMALL INVESTMENT FOR A VERY LARGE RETURN.

SO AND AGAIN, I MEAN, IN IF ANY OF YOU THINK YOU CAN'T DEFEND THAT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS FOR YOU AND DEFEND THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS EVERYBODY AHEAD IN THE QUEUE ON THIS ITEM.

I THINK THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED, I THINK, AT THIS POINT, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSENSUS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS ITEM.

SO I WILL SIMPLY ASK THE QUESTION OF THE COUNCIL.

DO YOU WISH FOR US TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP WITH NLC? AND IF COUNCIL, IF YOU CAN VOTE.

AND I'M SORRY, YOU'RE GOING HAVE TO HOLD THEM THERE FOR A SECOND IN OPPOSITION.

SORRY EVERYBODY'S PICTURES ARE MOVING AROUND.

COUNCIL MEMBER, VERA, COUNCIL MEMBER BASS, COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS, MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK AND MYSELF, THAT WOULD BE FIVE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL MOVE ON.

ALISON, WHAT'S NUMBER TWO? [INAUDIBLE] NOW, YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

PERFECT, OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE AN OVERVIEW OF EMS FEE

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CHANGES.

SO ON THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE ALL THE PROPOSED FEE CHANGES FOR OUR EMS CURRENT BEING PROPOSED FEE OF REVENUE IMPACT, THE EMS PROPOSED FEES CHANGES REPRESENTED, INCREASED FROM 11 PERCENT COST RECOVERY TO 13 PERCENT COST RECOVERY AND [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE METROPLEX.

BELOW IS DATA FROM A 2020 SURVEY, IT'S 16 DFW METROPLEX CITIES OF HOW WE COMPARE ABOVE, ABOVE OR BELOW THE MEDIAN ON OUR PROPOSED FEES, AND THEN WHERE WE RANK OUT OF 17 OF ALL THE CITIES LISTED ABOVE WITH OUR NEW PROPOSED FEES AS PART OF THE FY 21-22 BUDGET.

I WILL NOTE THAT INCLUDING GARLAND 14 OF 17 CITIES HAVE OR ARE PROPOSING A RESIDENTS OR NON RESIDENTS MILEAGE FEE OF FIFTEEN DOLLARS.

ON THE SCREEN IS OUR EXISTING CHARITY CARE POLICY OF AS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL BACK IN MAY 2019.

HAVE THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP CAN REQUEST AND THE AMOUNT OF [INAUDIBLE] BASED ON WHERE THEY FALL IN LINE WITH THE FEDERAL POVERTY LINE, WITH THE EXAMPLE OF THE AMOUNT OF THAT REDUCTION BASED ON A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD AVERAGE GROSS INCOME.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I'VE SEEN THIS TITLE.

THAT IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF THE REDUCTION ON THE EMS FEE.

THAT IS THE AVERAGE GROSS INCOME FOR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TYPO.

I THOUGHT I CORRECTED THAT TITLE.

SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS FOR BELOW ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LINE, WHICH FOR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD AVERAGE GROSS INCOME OF TWENTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS, THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, WAIVER.

I WILL MAKE THAT CORRECTION AND SEND THE COUNCIL, THIS UPDATED SLIDE I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO THIS IS THE CURRENT CHARITY CARE POLICY.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN WORK WITH OUR PAYMENT COLLECTION VENDOR, DIGITECH TO IMPLEMENT A PRESUMPTIVE CHARITY CARE POLICY.

I DO HAVE CHIEF LEE JOINING US TONIGHT WHO CAN EXPLAIN THAT TRANSITION AND THEN WE CAN TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATION ON EMS FEE CHANGES.

VERY GOOD, CHIEF LEE.

GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, ALISON AND MR. BRADFORD, THE PREEMPTIVE PIECE OF THE CHARITY CARE POLICY, IS EASY AS TELLING DIGITECH THAT WE WANT TO DO SO, WE ADOPTED THE CHARITY CARE POLICY IN 2019 BASED ON OUR TAXES.

AMBULANT SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S A FEDERAL FUND ON IT USED TO BE FOR MEDICARE SHORTFALLS AND UNINSURED.

AND IT'S TO HELP RECOVER SOME OF THE FUNDS FOR PROVIDING THAT CARE.

IN 2019 OR 2020, THE AMBULANCE PROGRAM THEY DROPPED THE MEDICARE SHORTFALL AND STARTED REQUIRING CHARITY CARE POLICIES FOR THE UNINSURED.

THE CUMBERSOME PROCESS OF GETTING IN CHARITY CARE.

DIGITECH PUTS IT ON THE STATEMENT, BUT THE PATIENTS HAVE TO FILE AND APPLY FOR THE THE CHARITY CARE.

UNDER THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD ASK DIGITECH WHEN THEY CAN'T DETERMINE THAT THEY'RE AN INSURED PERSON.

THEY'VE SENT THE INVOICES AND MADE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT THE PEOPLE.

THEY CAN LOOK AT THE EXPERIAN CREDIT BUREAU REPORT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION FROM THAT REPORT ON ESTIMATED HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND SIZE SO THAT THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY ENROLL THEM IN THE CHARITY CARE PROGRAM.

SOME CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE SO, ARE HOUSTON, DALLAS, CORPUS CHRISTI AND BRYAN, TEXAS.

THEY'RE ALL CUSTOMERS OF DIGITECH THAT HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED THE CHARITY CARE AUTOMATION PROCESS THROUGH THE EXPERIAN SYSTEM.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THE AUTOMATED TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN SOLUTION FOR CHARITY CARE ENROLLMENT SO THAT WE, THE FOLKS THAT CAN LEAST AFFORD TO PAY FOR THESE AMBULANCE BILLS CAN GET SOME OF THAT WAIVED.

OK, ALISON, I ASK YOU TO UNSHARE YOUR SCREEN FOR ME REAL QUICK.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU CHIEF FOR ALL THE TIME YOU SPENT WITH ME WORKING ON THIS.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT PLAN OF ACTION.

AS FAR AS THE BUDGET IS CONCERNED I'D LIKE TO SEE US HOLD OFF ON THE FEE INCREASES UNTIL YOUR SOLUTION CAN BE DEPLOYED.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE MOVING FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET ARE CONCERNED OR HOW WE REPRESENT THAT.

BUT I'LL DEFER TO THE STAFF ON THAT ONE.

BUT OTHERWISE, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB MITIGATING MY CONCERNS, AND I'M READY

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TO MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS, ERIN.

I SPOKE TO MR. BRADFORD ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND WHAT WE COULD DO AT THE TIME OF ADOPTION.

THERE COULD BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE BASICALLY HOLD ON THE FEE INCREASE FOR, SAY, SIX MONTHS UNTIL THE DEPLOYMENT IS COMPLETED HAS HAD TIME TO WORK, IF YOU WILL, OR ACT.

AND THAT WE COULD AT THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE COULD THEN TAKE UP THE ISSUE.

WE COULD THEN TAKE UP THE ISSUE AGAIN AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IS THERE ANY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM HERE, ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE OR AM I JUST CLICKING ON BUTTONS OVER HERE? I'M NOT SURE SOMETIMES.

OK, OK.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST MAKE IT SURE.

SOMETIMES I GET TO CLICKING ON THINGS AND I HAVE TO CHECK MYSELF.

SO IS THERE IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THE MOVING THIS TOWARDS AN AMENDMENT FOR A SIX MONTH STAY AND THEN REVISITING IT? I DON'T SEE ANY OPPOSITION, SO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NO, JUST TO BACK UP AT THE TIME OF ADOPTION, WE WILL NEED AN AMENDMENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THIS [INAUDIBLE] BUT I WANT TO ASK YOUR PERMISSION MAYOR IF NOT NOW, TELL ME.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK POINT OF [INAUDIBLE] BEFORE CHIEF LEE LEAVES.

CAN I CAN I DO THAT OR CAN I HAVE TO DO THAT LATER? YOU KNOW, HE'S HERE.

LET'S DO IT.

CAN I TO DO IT NOW MAYOR? GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANT TO BEFORE CHIEF LEE LEAVES, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU CHIEF AND THE ENTIRE GARLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR HANDLING OF THE MEADOW CREEK V ILLAGE TOWNHOMES FIRES, YOU AND I TALKED OF THE OTHER DAY BY PHONE.

JUST AN ALL MEN JOB.

I'VE GOT NOTHING BUT JUST RAVES, POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS, FROM THE HOA PRESIDENT, THE FOLKS SURROUNDING THERE, FOR THE WORK, NOT ONLY IN PUTTING OUT THE FIRE, BUT THE ATTITUDE OF YOUR TEAM AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND THE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT YOUR TEAM HELP PEOPLE WITH.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY CHIEF AND LET YOU AND [INAUDIBLE] KNOW, PASS IT ON TO YOUR TEAM.

THAT OFTEN WE TAKE WE TAKE THOSE SERVICES FOR GRANTED BECAUSE WE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE FIRST RESPONDERS AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM AS A COUNCILMAN FROM DISTRICT FOUR AND THE FOLKS THAT YOUR TEAM SERVED LAST SUNDAY IN THE MIDST OF THAT TRAGEDY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS SO MUCH, SIR.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

ALL RIGHT, ALISON, WHAT'S NUMBER THREE? WE'RE GOING TO REALLY TEST THE SHARE BUTTON TONIGHT.

YES, SIR.

AND JUST JUST FOR A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I CORRECTED THAT TILE TITLE.

MY APOLOGIES.

AVERAGE GROSS INCOME FOR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD IN OUR EXAMPLE.

VERY GOOD ON THE FLY.

YES, SIR.

OUR NEXT ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, PROPOSED FEE CHANGES.

SO THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FEES, 30 DAY EXPEDITED APPLICATION FEE AND THE PRE FILING FOR A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR LESS THAN ONE ACRE.

THE CURRENT FEE OF SIX THOUSAND FOR COVERS SIXTY ONE PERCENT OF THE COSTS FOR OUR 30 DAY EXPEDITED APPLICATION.

WHILE THE RECOMMENDED FEE OF NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED WOULD RECOVER 100 PERCENT FOR DEVELOPMENT ONE ACRE ABOVE WITH THE 30 DAY EXPECTED APPLICATION.

FOR OUR PRE FILING A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FEE THE CURRENT FEE OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR COVER SIX PERCENT OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED.

THE PROPOSED FEE OF SIX THOUSAND FOR A PRE FILING DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A PROJECT THAT IS ONE ACRE OR ABOVE IS AN INCREASE TO A THIRTY SIX PERCENT COST RECOVERY.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DELIBERATION.

OK.

AND IF YOU COULD UNSHARE FOR ME.

THERE WE GO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, BECAUSE THE THE PRE FILING FEE INCREASE IS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE WITH EVERY OTHER FEE INCREASE AND [INAUDIBLE] AT

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A TIME SIX FEE INCREASE.

WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE IS INCREASED BY A FACTOR OF ONE OR TWO.

I STILL OBJECT TO DOING THAT ALL AT ONCE THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE GOING INTO GETTING READY TO COMPLETELY TEAR UP THE DOWNTOWN.

SO AS I HAD ALREADY SAID BEFORE, I WOULD BE OK WITH PHASING THIS IN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET IT UP TO THERE.

I JUST OBJECT TO DOING THIS ALL AT ONCE.

AND IT ISN'T SUCH A FINANCIAL BOON TO US THAT I THINK THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO.

I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE 30 DAY FILING FEE INCREASE GOING FROM SIX TO NINETY NINE HUNDRED.

THAT'S MUCH MORE IN KEEPING WITH ALL THE OTHER FEE INCREASES WE'RE SEEING IN APPENDIX S F.

SO, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE PHASE IN THE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE FOR THE PRE FILING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THAT WILL BE WHILE WE'RE DESTROYING THE SQUARE AND PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AND PERHAPS MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS IN THE DOING SO.

OK.

AND I'LL JUST ASK, DO YOU HAVE AS FAR AS A AS FAR AS PHASING IT IN.

DO YOU HAVE SOME AMOUNT IN MIND? DO YOU HAVE.

I MEAN, ARE HAVE YOU? YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THE PHASE-IN IN WOULD BE? WOULD IT BE ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS IN THE AMOUNTS? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY HAVE YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS IN THAT DIRECTION? I WAS THINKING EITHER TWO YEARS WHERE WE RAISED IT TO THREE THOUSAND THIS YEAR AND ANOTHER THREE THOUSAND NEXT YEAR OR TWO, TWO AND TWO.

I MEAN, I'M I'M OK WITH EITHER WAY.

I WOULD JUST PREFER NOT TO MAKE THIS BE SO OUT OF PROPORTION TO ALL THE OTHER FEE INCREASES AND JUST EASE IT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE SLOWLY WHILE WE ARE DOING ALL OF THE RENOVATIONS ON THE SQUARE.

OK.

I JUST JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS.

OK.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

THANK YOU MAYOR, IT.

I'M FINE WITH THE PROPOSAL AS MS., COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS LAID IT OUT, AND I, I GET THAT IT'S NOT ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH THIS FEE STRUCTURE, WE'RE KIND OF SETTING THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT UP AS MORE OF A PREMIER OR THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, A PREMIUM TYPE OF ZONING AREA.

AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD PEAK OUT ON THE PRICING AS THE THE BIG DRAW, THE BIG AMENITY STARTS, YOU KNOW, BEING UNVEILED AS AS WE'RE FINISHING UP THAT TOWN SQUARE RENOVATION.

YEAH, NONE OF THAT BOTHERS ME.

AND AND I'M FINE WITH THE PHASE IN.

SO JUST LETTING A WORD OF SUPPORT TO THAT IDEA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OK, JUST FOR CLARITY, WOULD YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE OVER A HALF AND A HALF OR BREAKING IT UP TWO TWO TWO, AS WE'LL CALL IT? I DEFER TO THE COUNCILWOMAN ON THAT.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL JUST REITERATE WHAT I SAID LAST WEEK.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOTS THAT ARE IN ACRE IN SIZE OR ABOVE.

AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 MILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENTS FOR WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY RECOVERING, SIX PERCENT OF THE COST.

SO THE NECESSITY, THE SIX X NECESSITY IS NOT THAT THE INCREASE AS MUCH.

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY HAS THE FEE BEEN SO LOW SO FAR BELOW? IF IF THE FEE HAD BEEN MORE IN LINE WITH OUR ACTUAL COST TO BEGIN WITH, WE WOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR AN INCREASE.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE THAT WILL EVERY INCREASE THAT WE DO.

SHIFTS THE OVERALL COST BURDEN OF THE CITY AND BY REFUSING TO TO TO INCREASE NOW TO MORE ACCURATELY, EVEN THEN IT DOESN'T GO IT'S NOT A FULL RECOVERY OF THE COST.

BUT BY REFUSING TO DO THAT, WE'RE PUTTING THE BURDEN ELSEWHERE ON IN THE CITY AND WE'RE PUTTING IT.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING FAVORS FOR THE BIG CORPORATIONS HERE.

AND SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO.

DO IT NOW.

INCREASE IT NOW, WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT ONE ACRE LOTS, AND SO IT'S VERY LIMITED.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE STRUGGLING TO PULL THE PENNIES TOGETHER TO DO SOMETHING NEW HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS.

AND CANDIDLY, IF IT'S AN ACRE LOT AND YOU'RE NOT DOING A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.

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YOU KNOW, IF SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS KNOCKED OUT OF THE GAME, THEN THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THE GAME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS.

YES.

SO I WANTED TO REALLY SECOND WHAT RICH SAID.

SO IN LOOKING IN LOOKING AT THE FEES ON APPENDIX F, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT A FEE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BY CHARGING THE DEVELOPERS MORE, WE'RE ACTUALLY BENEFITING OUR CONSTITUENTS.

THIS ISN'T WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN TO DO A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS DOWNTOWN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY, OH, WELL, THIS HAS GONE UP SINCE THE LAST TIME I PAID IT.

IT'S NOT AFFECTING THEIR YEARLY BUDGET.

YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T AFFECTING THEIR ABILITY TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

YOU KNOW, BY NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH FROM THE DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA, WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY OUT OF OUR TAXPAYERS POCKETS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS NOT, YOU KNOW, THE FEE BEING INCREASED FROM A THOUSAND TO SIX THOUSAND BEING TOO BIG OF A HIT FOR A DEVELOPER TO TAKE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE PAYING THAT ON ANY KIND OF ANNUAL BASIS OR ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RE-BUDGET FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY, IF IT DOESN'T COME FROM A DEVELOPER, THEN IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM OUR OUR TAXPAYING CITIZENS.

SO I LIKE IT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, AND LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

OKAY.

LOOKS LIKE WE'VE CLEARED THE QUEUE ON THIS ITEM.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE, LARGE OR LARGER TYPE DEVELOPMENT COME FORWARD IS WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN OR WHATEVER.

WE OFTEN NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH OUR FEES.

WE WE WAIVE ROAD IN, ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

WE WAIVE, YOU KNOW, TREE MITIGATION FINES TO TO CERTAIN DEGREES, WHATEVER.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH A FULL IMPLEMENTATION, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE CAME TO US WITH A LARGE PROJECT, THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT THAT IN OUR IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THE FEES WOULD BE BROUGHT UP.

AND WHAT WE'VE GENERALLY ASKED IS, IF WE WAIVE A FEE, WE'RE NOT WAIVING IT TO YOUR POCKETBOOK.

WE'RE WAIVING IT FOR YOU TO REINVEST IT IN THE PROJECT.

SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW AND I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE AS A PRACTICE HAVE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN COUNTLESS TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE WE ROUGHLY HAVE THREE PROPOSALS BEFORE US.

WE HAVE FULL, FULL IMPLEMENTATION.

WE HAVE A HALF AND HALF AND THEN WE HAVE A THIRD OR BREAKING IT INTO THIRDS OVER OVER OVER THE OVER A SERIES OF YEARS.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS.

AM I NOT EXPLAINING THAT CORRECTLY OR? NO, I JUST WANT TO TAKE TO CYLINDER IT DOWN AND JUST SAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST HALF IT, TAKE OFF THE TWO TWO TWO AND JUST SAY MY.

MY SUGGESTION IS WE.

WE BREAK IT TWO AND HAVE THREE THIS YEAR, THREE NEXT YEAR.

BRING IT UP TO THAT QUICKLY.

AND FRANKLY, SINCE AND I'M I WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T NEED THIS RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF IF EVEN THAT IS ONLY COVERING THIRTY SIX PERCENT OF OUR COSTS AND OUR COST MOSTLY BEING THE TIME OF OUR SALARIED EMPLOYEES, I'M INTRIGUED WITH HOW THOSE THOSE ARE THOSE COSTS ARE DETERMINED.

BUT IF IT'S TRULY ONLY ENDS UP COVERING THIRTY SIX PERCENT OF OUR OF OUR COSTS OF STAFF TIME, THEN I WOULD FORESEE IN YEAR THREE WE MIGHT NEED TO BUMP IT AGAIN.

AND I WOULD ALSO BE FINE WITH THAT.

I JUST I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE MEASURED IN OUR APPROACHES WITH THIS AS WE HAVE BEEN WITH THE REST OF THE FEES AND A GREAT MANY OF THE FEES AND APPENDIX F ARE DEVELOPER FEES, THEY AREN'T INDIVIDUAL FEES MORE FOR DEVELOPERS THAN INDIVIDUALS.

SO MY MY SUGGESTION IS JUST REDUCE TO LET'S DO THREE THIS YEAR, THREE NEXT AT COUNCIL'S WILL.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, I'LL ASK FOR COUNCIL TO WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR A CONSENSUS HERE.

AND ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF FULL IMPLEMENTATION, PLEASE SIGNIFY.

AND AT THAT, I HAVE SIX IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN, BASS, VERA, MOORE, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS AND MAYOR PRO TEM

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HEDRICK, THANK YOU ALL FOR HOLDING YOUR SIGNS UP LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO SCAN EVERYTHING.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PREPARE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION.

ALL RIGHT, ALISON.

I THINK WE'RE ON NUMBER FOUR.

SIR.

[INAUDIBLE] SCREEN AVAILABLE.

YEAH, WE KIND OF LOST YOUR AUDIO A LITTLE BIT THERE.

YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

THE LAST ITEM I HAVE SEEKING CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WOULD BE OUR WELLNESS BENEFIT AS IT RELATES TO COVID-19, BASED ON THE AVERAGE HOURLY RATE OF A SWORN POLICE OFFICER OF ABOUT THIRTY SIX DOLLARS AND SIXTY SIX CENTS TO REPLACE AN EMPLOYEE WHILE QUARANTINE.

THE COST IS APPROXIMATELY SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS IN OVERTIME FOR A 12 HOUR SHIFTS FOR A POLICE OFFICER AND ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS FOR A TWENTY FOUR HOUR SHIFT FOR A FIREFIGHTER.

THIS IS BASED ON SOME CURRENT CDC GUIDELINES REGARDING QUARANTINING.

OUR COMMIT TO WELLNESS PROGRAM CURRENTLY INCENTIVIZES EMPLOYEES TO GET VACCINATED AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS TOWARDS RECEIVING CREDIT TOWARDS HEALTH CARE PREMIUM REDUCTIONS.

THAT IS 20 DOLLAR REDUCTION FOR OUR C2W BASE PLAN AND A 30 DOLLAR REDUCTION FOR OUR C2W PLUS.

FINALLY, NO DECISION IS REQUIRED FOR THE FY 21 22 PROPOSED BUDGET THE BENEFIT FROM COMPLETING THE COMMIT TO WELLNESS PROGRAM WILL TAKE INTO EFFECT JANUARY 2022.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATION.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN BROUGHT THIS FOR US.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

YOU'RE ON MUTE.

TESTING MY MEMORY SKILLS.

THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS A RISKY PROPOSITION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD RAISED.

I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, [INAUDIBLE].

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL WELLNESS.

THE COST THAT WE'RE SEEING OF PEOPLE BEING OUT IS IS I THINK THE NUMBER THAT YOU THAT YOU GAVE US, ALISON, WAS FOR POLICE WAS 29 [INAUDIBLE].

SO ALMOST THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PER QUARANTINE.

AND SO AND WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THAT IF WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN EXPOSURE THAT IS NOT EVEN A POSITIVE TEST THEMSELVES, BUT IF THEY HAVE AN EXPOSURE AND THEY ARE UNVACCINATED, THEN WE QUARANTINE THEM.

AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A CORRECT CURRENT POLICY.

ALTHOUGH ONE OF THE CHIEF CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT, BUT IF THEY HAVE AN EXPOSURE AND THEY'VE BEEN VACCINATED, THEN THEN THERE IS NO QUARANTINE.

AND AND SO WE'RE LITERALLY JUST.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING MONEY ON THIS, WE'RE LOSING PRODUCTIVITY, IT'S COSTING US THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND NOW WITH DELTA AND AS MR. CHESSHER SAID LAST WEEK, WITH THE VIRULENCE OF DELTA AND THE TRANSMISSIBILITY, WE ARE LIKELY TO SEE EVERYBODY WHO'S UNVACCINATED BECOME INFECTED WITH COVID.

AND SO GOD KNOWS HOW MANY EXPOSURES THAT'LL BE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, AND PERHAPS THIS MIGHT BE BETTER FOR FOR OUR ARPA FUNDING AS OPPOSED TO FUNDING THROUGH THE CURRENT BUDGET, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS AS IT WOULD BE A ONE TIME COST, BUT CERTAINLY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ARPA PURPOSES.

ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T WANT TO WAIT VERY LONG.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO WAIT THROUGH OUR ARPA SCHEDULE TO DO THIS WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND OFFER THAT THROUGH THE COMMIT TO WELLNESS THAT IF YOU GET THE VACCINATION AND GISD JUST IMPLEMENTED THIS JUST THIS WEEK, FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR EACH OF THEIR STAFF MEMBERS, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 250 IF YOU GET THE BOOSTER VACCINE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE TOWARDS ADOPTING THIS.

FOR EVERY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND IN THIS INCENTIVE, WE CAN BE RECOVERING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING IN IN EMPLOYEE COSTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SIR.

LET'S SEE HERE COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

A QUESTION FOR MR. CHESSHER, IF HE'S AVAILABLE.

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YOU KNOW.

SEE HIM LOGGED IN, BUT.

IF I WERE HIM, I WOULDN'T BE LISTENING TO ME SO.

JASON, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE.

WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PITCH THE QUESTION HERE.

WELL, HERE'S MY HERE'S MY QUESTION.

THIS GOES BACK TO THE TRANSMISSIBILITY QUESTION, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY DATA ON THIS MYSELF.

DO WE KNOW IF THE TRANSMISSIBILITY QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED FOR THE DELTA VARIANT FOR VACCINATED INDIVIDUALS? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE VIRAL LOAD, BUT THEN THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL THE DANGER OF THAT VIRAL LOAD COMPARED TO IN AN UNVACCINATED INDIVIDUAL VERSUS THE BASE VARIANT YET? I'M LOST, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

WELL, LET ME LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY I SAW SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE DELTA VARIANT IN TERMS OF TRANSMISSIBILITY BEING I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS TWENTY SEVEN TIMES AS TRANSMISSIBLE AS THE.

THIS PRIOR VARIANCE, BUT HOW THAT HOW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT APPLIES TO BOTH VACCINATED AND UNVACCINATED PEOPLE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I'M NOT SEEN ANYTHING STRICTLY FOR VACCINATED PEOPLE.

I GUESS THE TRANSMISSIBILITY RATE OR TRANSMISSION RATE FOR VACCINATED PEOPLE.

GOT IT.

OK.

AND AND THAT'S THE DATA I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING TO FIND.

BUT I THOUGHT I SAW MAYOR IF I COULD.

I SAW RICH'S EYES POP UP WHEN I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN, DO YOU HAVE RESOURCES YOU CAN SHARE WITH ME ON ON THAT ANSWER? MAYOR, IF I MAY? GO, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH I IN THE READING THAT I'VE DONE, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION HANDY RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, THE THE CHANCES OF YOU BEING INFECTED, IF YOU'RE VACCINATED, ARE EIGHT TIMES MORE LIKELY.

I'M SORRY.

IF YOU'RE UNVACCINATED.

EIGHT TIMES MORE LIKELY THAN IF YOU'RE VACCINATED.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE VACCINATED AND YOU'RE NOT INFECTED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE EVEN IF YOU'RE EXPOSED, IF YOU'RE NOT INFECTED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A CARRIER OF IT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TRANSMIT IT.

THERE HAVE THERE HAS BEEN SOME I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH VIRAL LOADS IN VACCINATED PERSONS VERSUS UNVACCINATED.

THE SUGGESTION HAS BEEN THAT THE VIRAL LOADS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER, WHICH CORRESPONDS ALSO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE REDUCED SEVERITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS WHY THE SURVIVAL RATE IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE 29 TIMES HIGHER.

THE HOSPITALIZATION RATE IS ANYWHERE FROM TWENTY FIVE TO 70 TIMES LESS, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE.

HOWEVER, NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY CORRELATED IN A SCIENTIFIC STUDY.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CAREFUL THAT THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF HYPOTHESES FLOATING AROUND THAT YOU HAVE A MUCH LOWER VIRUS LOAD.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AS YOU KNOW, AS AS INFECTIOUS, YOU KNOW.

SO THE MERE FACT THAT YOU'RE VACCINATED IS, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] BENEFIT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRANSMITTING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE VIRUS.

BUT EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE THE VIRUS, THE SUSPICION IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE A MUCH LOWER CHANCE OR TIME WINDOW WITHIN WHICH TO TRANSMIT IT.

BUT THEY JUST THE DELTA VARIANT IS RELATIVELY NEW.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE DATA TOGETHER THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REGARDING THAT.

AND IN FACT, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SPECIFICALLY TIED VIRAL LOAD, THE AMOUNT OF VIRAL LOAD THAT YOU'RE CARRYING TO THE TRANSMISSIBILITY OF IT.

THEY BELIEVE THAT'S CONNECTED.

BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE MOVING SO FAST.

SO THEY DO BELIEVE THAT.

BUT IN TERMS OF SAYING, YES, I'VE GOT SOME SOLID EVIDENCE FOR YOU ON THAT, I DON'T.

BUT STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT BUT THE OTHER NUMBERS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO GETS IT AND WHAT THE MORTALITY RATE IS, THOSE ARE PRETTY SOLID.

I APPRECIATE IT.

APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU IF YOU HIT ME UP OFFLINE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SPEND WHATEVER I'VE

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GOT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO THE BUDGET.

I DO BELIEVE THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR ARPA FUNDING, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO MOVE ON THIS, WE NEED TO DO SO EXPEDITIOUSLY.

AND SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD WHEN WE START TALKING ARPA HERE VERY, VERY SOON, IF WE COULD TAKE THIS KIND OF AS THE AS A PRIORITY ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE.

BRADFORD.

I'M SORRY.

SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

MR. BRADFORD, YOU'RE GOOD.

YES, I, I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER COVID GRANT FUNDS THAT WE COULD USE FOR THIS.

SO IF IF YOU IF YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO DO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GOT THROUGH THE ARPA DISCUSSIONS.

WELL, THEN THAT THING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT THING.

IS THAT? THAT'S, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR HAD TWO QUESTIONS, BUT ONE JUST GOT ANSWERED.

SO I DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION.

MR. BRADFORD AND ALISON.

TELL ME AGAIN.

THE CASH CREDIT AMOUNT ON THE INCENTIVES RIGHT NOW IS HOW MUCH THE OFFSET AMOUNT.

FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN VACCINATED, OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAM CURRENTLY.

WELL, THE THE WAY IT WORKS.

WOULD YOU WOULD YOU GO WITH IT AGAIN FOR MR. BRADFORD PLEASE? IS IF CHRIS IS ON THE LINE, I'M GOING TO NEED SOME SOME BACKUP ON THE DETAILS.

BUT BUT THE THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS IS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE C2W CREDIT, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND AND YOU HAVE OPTIONS AS TO WHICH REQUIREMENTS YOU MEET.

AND SO YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF WAYS IN WHICH YOU CAN ACCUMULATE THE POINTS NEEDED TO TO OBTAIN A DISCOUNT IN YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUM.

THERE'S TWO LEVELS OF C2W.

ONE OF THEM NATURALLY HAS MORE REQUIREMENTS THAN THE OTHER.

AND SO BEING VACCINATED SIMPLY SIMPLY CAN COUNT TOWARDS MEETING ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR ACHIEVING POINTS.

I GUESS I HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION.

I GUESS I'D LIKE TO TO INSERT HERE, IF I COULD DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

AND THAT IS I IS COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN SUGGESTING OR RECOMMENDING THAT WE LOOK AT THE VACCINATION AS THE REQUIREMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE VACCINATED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET ANY OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OR OR ARE WE THINKING OR WE THINKING SOME OTHER APPROACH ? NOW, WITH THAT, I'LL I'LL LET KRISTEN CORRECT ME.

WELL, THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.

IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY REQUIREMENTS THAT EMPLOYEES CAN CHOOSE FROM.

FLU VACCINATION HAVE BEEN A STANDARD PART OF C2W AS WELL.

WE JUST ADDED THE VACCINE FOR COVID IN ADDITION TO THAT.

SO THEY CAN CHOOSE THAT OR THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE THAT OPTION AND STILL GET THEIR C2W REQUIREMENTS THE WAY THAT THE PROGRAM IS STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS THE WAY THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS STRUCTURED AND BUILT IN OUR WELLNESS PLATFORM.

IF WE IF WE DO GO TO THE SUGGESTION OR THE THE DIRECTION JUST MENTIONED OF GIVING CREDIT AND NOT REQUIRING ANY OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENT, WE WOULD NEED TO REEVALUATE OUR WELLNESS PLATFORM AS WELL, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BUILT AROUND THE CURRENT PROGRAM STRUCTURE.

SO I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS OFFERING AN INCENTIVE IN ADDITION TO C2W CREDIT.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL.

MAYOR, IF I MAY, KRISTEN, WOULD YOU? SO ALL OF THE CURRENT FACTORS, THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE EQUALLY WEIGHTED.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ONE OF THOSE THAT HAS ANY HEAVY WEIGHT THAN THOSE? ARE THEY ARE THEY PRETTY MUCH EQUAL KRISTEN? THERE ARE THERE ARE BASELINE REQUIREMENTS BY GETTING YOUR ANNUAL PHYSICAL IN LABS.

BUT THE CATEGORY THAT THE VACCINE IS IN, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

I COULD CHOOSE TO GET MY COVID VACCINE SHOT OR I COULD CHOOSE TO GO TO A

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SERIES OF CLASSES.

THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME WEIGHTING CURRENTLY.

AND HOW WOULD IT IMPACT QUESTION FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, THE PLATFORM, IF THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO, LET'S SAY, WEIGHTING THAT.

THAT ONE FACTOR.

WELL, I GUESS YOU COULDN'T WEIGHT ONE WITHOUT WEIGHT THE OTHERS FOR GIVING SOME KIND OF RANKING ORDER TO THE VACCINE.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THIS WEEKEND LOOKING AT WHAT THE DISTRICT HAD DONE, GISD, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW [INAUDIBLE].

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'VE DONE ON THEIR [INAUDIBLE].

WHAT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR WHAT'S YOUR THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES? YOU KNOW, COULD WE MAYBE WEIGHT ONE OF THOSE FACTORS TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, TO PROMOTE THE VACCINE THINGS AND AS THE DISTRICT DID? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR YOUR YOUR THINKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHAT YOU DEAL WITH OR WOULD THAT TURN THE ENTIRE PLATFORM UPSIDE DOWN AND REQUIRE WE REMAKE.

AND THAT IS NOT WHAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE TO DO SO.

SURE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT PHRASE, TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN, BUT IT DEFINITELY WOULD CREATE SOME LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES.

BUT WE CAN WE CAN EASILY OFFER THAT INCENTIVE AS THE C2W OR WELLNESS RELATED INCENTIVE AND PAY IT.

PROBABLY THE EASIEST ROUTE WOULD BE TO PAY THAT AS A LUMP SUM, VIA PAYROLL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TITLE THAT C2W INCENTIVE.

SO EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THAT TIED TO WELLNESS AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF RESTRUCTURING THE PLATFORM.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE, SEPTEMBER WOULD BE THE LAST MONTH FOR THE CURRENT C2W PROGRAM.

WE COULD FOR THE NEXT PROGRAM YEAR THAT STARTS OCTOBER ONE.

WE'LL GET SOME ADDITIONAL WEIGHTING OR RESTRUCTURING.

BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE MANY WAYS TO PAY THE INCENTIVE IF IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DESIRE TO DO, THAT COUNCIL GIVES DIRECTION FOR US TO DO AND TIE IT TO C2W WHETHER IT'S THE PLATFORM OR NOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO TO RESPOND TO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD MENTIONED.

IN MY MIND, THIS WOULD NOT BE A.

THE CURRENT INCENTIVE, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, IS A CREDIT THAT WE GIVE TOWARDS THE MEDICAL INSURANCE AND IN THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CITY WHO ARE NOT ON OUR MEDICAL INSURANCE.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] IN IN SO OF THE GENESIS OF THIS WAS WAS WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED TO US THAT THE C2W PROGRAM IS OPEN IN SOME REGARDS TO CITY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT ON THE MEDICAL PROGRAM, NOT ON OUR INSURANCE.

AND SO IT WOULD, I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT AS A SEPARATE INCENTIVE.

I WOULD PROBABLY REMOVE IT AS ONE OF THE FOUR OR FIVE FOR THE CREDIT.

ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL ONES FOR THE FOR THE CREDIT AND HAVE IT AS A STANDALONE AND NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO GET VACCINATED LIKE NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING, BUT PEOPLE WHO WHO CAN JUST SHOW THE PROOF THAT THEY'VE BEEN VACCINATED, THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE SAVING US AND THEY'RE PROTECTING THEIR FELLOW EMPLOYEES AND THE PUBLIC, AND THEY'RE AND THEY'RE SAVING MONEY FOR THE CITY.

AND SO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE SAVING MONEY FOR US.

YOU KNOW, WE GO AHEAD AND PAY THAT BENEFIT.

I WOULD DO IT THROUGH THE COMMITMENT TO WELLNESS PROGRAM.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW WE DO THAT.

BUT I THINK ONCE YOU PASS THAT, YOU YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE TO SOME [INAUDIBLE], YOU GIVE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, A PERIOD OF TIME END OF OCTOBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO TO HAVE TO BECOME FULLY VACCINATED OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL GET OFF THE MIC AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE DOG.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO.

ANY POLICY WE MAKE REGARDING THIS TO ALSO INCLUDE NATURAL IMMUNITY FOR THOSE WHO CAN SHOW THAT THEY HAD A COVID INFECTION AND THEN DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO GET THE VACCINE AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME STUDIES THAT SHOW NATURAL IMMUNITY THAT IS AS A RESULT OF RECOVERING FROM COVID.

AND THE ANTIBODIES THERE MAY LAST LONGER, IN FACT, THAN THE VACCINE ITSELF.

SO I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE CLEARED THE QUEUE, MR. [INAUDIBLE], JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLY IN THE DISCUSSION WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT WE COULD USE ARPA FUNDS, BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED SOME OTHER COVID

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GRANT FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED FOR THIS.

IS THAT DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? YES, SIR.

OK.

OK.

SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO BRING THIS ALL BACK AROUND.

SO IS THIS THIS IS THIS A BUDGET ITEM OR IS THIS A BENEFITS ITEM? I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO KIND OF WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LINE IS, IF THIS IS SOMETHING IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO APPROACH AS A BENEFIT.

OR BUT IT'S BUT IF IT'S COMING FROM OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE IN THE RIGHT COURT HERE.

MAYOR AT ONE POINT, AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THE BUDGET.

OKAY.

AND SO WE'VE WE'VE STILL GOT SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE WE'RE WE'RE DUE TO TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

I GUESS FOR WHAT I WOULD ASK, IS THAT COUNCIL ALLOW TIME FOR STAFF TO GO BACK, THINK THROUGH WHAT SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS MAY BE.

THINK THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE BEST WAY TO STRUCTURE THIS AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE IT'S TIME TO ADOPT A BUDGET.

OK.

I THINK THAT'S AND SO JUST JUST AS A CLARIFICATION.

SO IF WE ARE IF WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING AN INCENTIVE, A LUMP SUM INCENTIVE TIED TO WELLNESS, I BELIEVE THE THE AMOUNT OF FIVE HUNDRED WAS MENTIONED.

IS THAT IS EVERYBODY.

IS EVERYBODY GOOD MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT NUMBER, I GUESS, IS IS THE.

IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT NUMBER OR THAT AMOUNT? JUST AS A POINT OF JUST AS A POINT OF STAFF GETTING INFORMATION TOGETHER.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ARE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS INCENTIVE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONE TIME EXPENDITURE OR ARE WE THINKING OF SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING? AND IF SO, HOW LONG? YOU KNOW, I WOULD YOU KNOW, THE ONGOING PART OF THAT IS PROBABLY I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

MR. BRADFORD.

I SAW YOUR HAND POP UP.

I THINK I THINK FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE, IT WOULD NEED TO HAVE A TIMELINE OR A DATE IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO BE VACCINATED BY.

AND OF COURSE, THE SOONER THE BETTER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD SEE US MAYBE TWO MONTHS OUT SAYING IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN VACCINATED BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE.

AND AND THEN MAYBE WE WE OFFER IT ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO NEW EMPLOYEES.

BUT BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS A STAFF.

RIGHT.

IN THAT, YES, WE CAN COME BACK.

YOU KNOW, IS THAT IS THAT DATE IS OCTOBER ONE IS YOU KNOW, IS OCTOBER 31.

SO WE YEAH.

SO WE CAN HAVE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THIS.

OK.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? I DON'T SEE ANY, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM.

AND JUST AS A RECAP, PREVIOUSLY THE SAFE LIGHT FUNDS, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT THAT THAT REMAINING FUNDING WILL BE BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND TO TO ASSIST WITH TRANSPORTATION SAFETY TYPE ISSUES.

AND THEN THE FUNDING FOR THE BOXING GYM ITEMS WILL BE ADDED TO THE POLICE BUDGET, I BELIEVE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE CLEARED OUR LIST.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND LIST IN THE WORKS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE C2W IN THE THE VACCINATION INCENTIVE TOPIC.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE.

ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO HAVE STAFF WORKING ON? WE'VE GOT KIND OF A WEIRD SCHEDULE GOING ON HERE.

SO WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING OUR OUR DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT, BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TIME OFF WHERE WE WILL NOT RECONVENE UNTIL INTO SEPTEMBER.

SO IF THERE IF THERE ARE THINGS STAFF NEEDS TO BE WORKING ON, LET'S GET THEM OUT THERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. YEAH, WE GOT A COUPLE OF EMAILS, AND I REMEMBER ALL OF THEM, ONE HAD TO DO WITH THE TAX RATE AND WE GOT ANOTHER ONE.

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I THINK IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH I THINK IT WAS RELATED.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

IT WAS FROM FROM A COUPLE OF CITIZENS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND? ARE WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THOSE TO THE END? AND I DID NOT PRINT THOSE DOWN, BUT I KNOW WE GOT ONE.

I SAW IT THIS MORNING AND WE'VE GOT THIS.

SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

ONE PERSON SAID THEY WERE HOPING TO BE ON THE CALL TONIGHT, BUT THEY COULDN'T BUT THEY SENT AN EMAIL TODAY.

SO JUST THOSE THOSE KIND OF GENERAL QUESTIONS ARE EMAILS THAT WE GET FROM RELATED TO THE BUDGET.

HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THOSE? I THINK WE'LL WANT TO CONTINUE TO FUNNEL THOSE TO STAFF WHEN THEY CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTION AND THEN SEND THE ANSWER OUT TO ALL OF US OR THE RESEARCH, I SHOULD SAY.

AND THEN WHEN WE RECONVENE ON THE 14TH OR I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DATE, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE, IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE OR DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD.

AND I THINK ACTUALLY WE WILL DISCUSS IT IN OUR WORK SESSION ON THE 13TH, WE'LL HAVE SORT OF OUR LAST, HOPEFULLY OUR LAST GO AT THE BUDGET BEFORE ADOPTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE.

I KNOW OUR NEXT ITEM IS PRESENTATION ON AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS AFTER THAT.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A RECESS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SO MR. BRADFORD, ANY THOUGHTS ON ON THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. WATSON IS BRINGING UP NEXT? SHOULD WE BREAK BEFORE THAT OR AFTER? I'M NOT SURE THE LENGTH OF IT, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE.

I WOULD DEFINITELY BREAK BEFOREHAND.

HAVE A GOOD CUP OF COFFEE, MAYBE EAT A SNICKERS BAR AND THEN COME FULLY RECHARGED.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD ADVICE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS AND FOLLOW THE CITY MANAGER'S INSTRUCTIONS.

LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK ONLINE AT 7:25, PLEASE.

7:25.

GOOD EVENING.

WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS.

IT IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 2021, AND WE ARE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS.

WE ARE TO ITEM THREE, WHICH IS PRESENTATION ON AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

[3. Presentation on American Rescue Plan Act - Watson]

AND I BELIEVE MR. WATSON.

YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK.

CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT? NO.

NO.

WE MIGHT HAVE USED UP ALL THE SCREEN SHARES WITH ALISON'S PRESENTATION.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

GOT A DOUBLE CLICK, I GUESS [INAUDIBLE] THAT A LONG TIME AGO, BUT.

THIS WHOLE ZOOM THING IS VERY NEW SO YOU KNOW.

WELL, TONIGHT I HAVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US AT THE CITY OF GARLAND.

AND THEN REALLY THE BIG PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE HONESTLY SEEKING DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL.

MORE ON THE FRAMEWORK ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE A PROPOSED CALENDAR THAT WAS EMAILED OUT TO Y'ALL WE WOULD LIKE TO GET COUNCILS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

AND IN ADDITION, WE'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA ORGANIZED AS WE GET IT OUT TO YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WILL END UP BEING A LOT OF INFORMATION.

WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW TO START.

SINCE MARCH OF 2020, THERE'S BEEN REALLY THREE REALLY LARGE STIMULUS PACKAGES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PASSED DOWN OR APPROVED BY LAW.

THE FIRST WAS THE CARES ACT.

AND THIS THIS ACT WAS DESIGNED REALLY TO GET MONEY OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WHILE WE WERE AT THE FRONTLINE OF THE THE PANDEMIC.

THE CITY OF GARLAND DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DIRECT ALLOCATIONS FROM THE CARES ACT, BUT WE DID RECEIVE AN INDIRECT ALLOCATION FROM DALLAS COUNTY FROM THEIR ALLOCATION OF THIRTEEN POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH WE UTILIZE FOR RESIDENTIAL TESTING AND TRACING PROGRAM,

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A SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM, A MORTGAGE AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THEN ALSO ENTIRELY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL AND HEALTH PERSONNEL, AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGY AND PPE.

IN ADDITION FROM THE CARES ACT, WE ALSO RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING RELATED TO CDBG AND OUR ESG GRANTS.

THREE MILLION DOLLARS FOR CDBG AND ROUGHLY TWO MILLION FOR THE AMERICANS SHELTER GRANT FUND PROGRAM.

THE SECOND BIG STIMULUS PACKAGE WAS A CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE AND RELIEF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION ACT.

THIS ONE DID NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT ALLOCATIONS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

HOWEVER, THE CITY DID RECEIVE A ROUGHLY NINE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THIS ACT.

SO WE ARE UTILIZING THAT THROUGH OUR EFFORTS WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO GET RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE OUT FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS FOR BOTH RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

THEN FINALLY, IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN OUT OF 2021, WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT AND DETAILED TONIGHT.

HERE'S THIS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF ARPA, KIND OF THE KEY POINTS, THERE'S REALLY FOUR BIG ONES THAT MAKE IT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS.

THE FIRST IS THE FIRST TWO ACTS WERE AGAIN, DESIGNED TO GET MONEY OUT REALLY QUICKLY.

ARPA HAS A LONGER TIMEFRAME ON IT.

AND WITH THAT, THE FUNDS MUST BE OBLIGATED BY 2024 AND SPENT BY THE END OF 2026.

AND I'VE UNDERLINED OBLIGATED, BECAUSE WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE OR A COMMITMENT THAT IS LEGALLY BOUND IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO BY 2024, FOR LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE.

THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES CAN OCCUR ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2026.

BUT THE 2024 DEADLINE IS SOMEWHAT LIMITING.

FUNDS ARE RELEASED IN TWO TRANCHES.

SO THE ARPA FUNDS WE RECEIVED WERE FIFTY THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

WE RECEIVE THE FIRST HALF IN MAY OF 2021 AND ARE SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE THE SECOND HALF AND MAY IN 2022.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS ACT AND THE OTHER ACTS IS REVENUE REPLACEMENT IS ALLOWED, WHICH MEANS THAT THE LOST REVENUE, BASED ON A CALCULATION THAT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS PUT TOGETHER, WE CAN ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS LOST REVENUE AND APPLY THAT TOWARDS GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL PROVISIONS.

AND FINALLY, THE FUNDS FOR THE COVID-19 MITIGATION OR FOR MITIGATION AND RECOVERY, THE PRIOR TO US WERE MOSTLY FOR MITIGATION.

BUT THE ONE THAT THAT DIFFERENTIATES THE ARPA FUNDS THE MOST IS THAT IT'S HEAVILY DRIVEN TOWARDS ECONOMIC RECOVERY.

QUICKLY TO KNOCK THIS OUT.

RIGHT UP FRONT.

LET'S JUST GO OVER THE INELIGIBLE USES.

THERE ARE CATEGORIES OF USES THROUGHOUT IT, BUT THESE FACTORS HERE ARE JUST INELIGIBLE NO MATTER WHAT.

THE FIRST IS REDUCTION IN TAX REVENUE OR TAX RATES.

THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO REDUCE TAX REVENUE.

THEY WANT YOU TO SPEND THE MONEY.

DEPOSITS INTO PENSION FUNDS AREN'T ALLOWED.

USES AS A NONFEDERAL MATCH FOR OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS, USING TO PAY DOWN DEBT SERVICE, FUND LEGAL SETTLEMENTS OR JUDGMENTS, AND DEPOSIT INTO RAINY DAY FUNDS OR FINANCIAL RESERVES.

AGAIN, THEY WANT YOU TO SPEND THE MONEY AND FUND GENERAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SOME OTHER LIMITING FACTORS IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE FUNDS OBLIGATED BY 2024 AND SPENT BY 2026.

AND THERE ARE FIVE ELIGIBLE CATEGORIES OF USE WITH SOME OF THEM HAVING A LOT MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN OTHERS.

SO QUICKLY, I WASN'T GOING TO TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE ELIGIBLE CATEGORIES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE MET.

IT IS I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION IS CITY COUNCIL, THAT IF COUNCIL CONCURS THAT COUNCIL FOCUS ON PRIORITIZING THE HARD TASK OF PRIORITIZING ALL THESE PROJECTS AND ENSURING THAT THE CRITICAL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND ARE BEING COMPLETED OR PROGRAMS AND STAFF WILL ALONG THE WAY DETERMINE WHICH PROJECT THESE WHICH ELIGIBLE CATEGORY THESE PROJECTS CAN FIT INTO AND TALK ABOUT THE LIMITING FACTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT.

THERE IS ONE ELIGIBLE USE CATEGORY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME ON, AND THAT IS THE REPLACE PUBLIC SECTOR REVENUE LOSS.

SO THE REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY ALLOWS GOVERNMENTS BASED ON A CALCULATION THAT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS PUT TOGETHER AND DETERMINE IF YOU'VE HAD LOST REVENUE EACH FISCAL YEAR OR CALENDAR YEAR, I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT ON A FISCAL YEAR, IT'S ON A CALENDAR YEAR.

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AND BASICALLY, ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT LOST REVENUE.

THAT IS FROM THAT CALCULATION ON ANY GOVERNMENTAL PROVISION, WHICH GIVES IT A LOT MORE LATITUDE.

AND I'VE GOT A REAL HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF HOW THIS CALCULATION WORKS.

BASICALLY, YOU TAKE YOUR PRE COVID REVENUE, AND FOR US IT'S ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THIS, IN GENERAL TERMS, IS ON AN ENTITY WIDE BASIS, EXCLUDING ELECTRIC AND WATER.

THEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY A GROWTH FACTOR IN HOW YOU DETERMINE THE GROWTH FACTORS.

YOU LOOK AT YOUR LAST THREE YEARS OF REVENUE GROWTH, AND IT'S EITHER THAT AMOUNT OR A FLAT FOUR POINT ONE.

OURS IS ACTUALLY FIVE POINT FOUR.

BUT FOR THE FIRST YEAR WILL BE ONE OR BE POINT SIX POINT EIGHT AND WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWING US TO ADD ADDITIONAL THREE MONTHS SINCE IT IS BASED OFF OF A FISCAL YEAR AND THEY'RE DOING IT ON A CALENDAR YEAR.

SO IT'S BASICALLY FROM OCTOBER TO DECEMBER AND THEN THE WHOLE FISCAL YEAR.

SO 15 MONTHS.

AND THEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE CURRENT YEAR REVENUE.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR LOST REVENUE.

SO BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, OUR REVENUE LOSS FOR 2020 WOULD HAVE BEEN SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

AND AGAIN, SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER.

THE CALCULATION HERE MUST BE COMPLETED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO WE'VE COMPLETED 2020.

SO SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION, ACCORDING TO THE TREASURY, IS FREE AND CLEAR FOR US TO USE FOR GENERAL PROVISIONS.

WE WILL HAVE TO CALCULATE THIS AGAIN ONCE ACTUAL REVENUES ARE DETERMINED FOR 2021 IN DECEMBER 22 AND 23.

SO THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A LIMITING FACTOR TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH YOUR PROJECT LIST FOR ANY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, IS THAT THE TIMING OF THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR OUT AS 2024 BEFORE THE REVENUE IS AVAILABLE.

THESE ARE THE PROJECTIONS, PROJECTIONS OF WHAT THE REVENUE WILL BE AVAILABLE BY YEAR.

SO YOU SEE IN 2022, WE'VE ALREADY CALCULATED THE 2020 YEAR, WE'LL CALCULATE THE 2021 YEAR IN JANUARY, AND I'M ESTIMATING ABOUT NINETEEN POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL IN 2022.

IN 2023 BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS, IT'LL BE ABOUT FIFTEEN POINT FOUR THEN 24 IT'D BE ABOUT EIGHTEEN POINT SIX.

SO IN THEORY, THROUGH THE LOST REVENUE CATEGORY, WE COULD RECEIVE ALL OF OUR OUR FUND ALLOCATION COULD FILTER THROUGH THIS CATEGORY, GIVING FLEXIBILITY OF THE COUNCIL TO THIS PROGRAM, THESE FUNDS, TO THE PROJECTS THAT THEY FEEL ARE CRITICAL.

HANG ON.

HANG ON A SECOND, MATT, JUST REAL QUICK.

YES, SIR.

MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK I SEE YOUR, IS THIS A QUESTION FOR NOW OR JUST GETTING IN LINE? QUICK QUESTION, MR. MAYOR, IF MR. WATSON COULD REPEAT THE MINIMUM RATE, MINIMUM GROWTH RATE AND OUR CURRENT RATE, IT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

OK.

YES, SO OUR GROWTH RATE GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE FIVE POINT FOUR PERCENT.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR THE CALCULATION WE DID FOR THE 2020 YEAR AT SIX POINT EIGHT PERCENT.

BUT MOVING FORWARD WILL BE FIVE POINT FOUR.

AND IS THAT GROWTH RATE RECALCULATED EACH YEAR OR IS IT STUCK NOW? FLAT.

OK.

AND YOU MENTIONED THERE IS A MINIMUM RATE OF A FOUR POINT SOMETHING.

IS THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OR WE ARE STUCK AT FIVE POINT FOUR IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS AFTER NOW? WE'RE STUCK AT FIVE POINT FOUR.

SO WE, YOU WOULD BASICALLY JUST THEY GAVE US THE DISCRETION OF TAKING OUR LAST THREE YEARS, WHICH IS FIVE POINT FOUR, OR UTILIZING THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, WHICH IS FOUR POINT ONE.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN VERA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, MATT.

WHEN CAN WE START THOSE REVENUES? RIGHT AWAY OR WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 2024? AS FAR AS SPENDING THE FUNDS? YEAH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S KIND OF A TRICKY THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY.

SO WE HAVE HALF THE FUNDS NOW, AND TECHNICALLY WE COULD START APPLYING ALL THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS PROJECTS.

BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE LOST REVENUES ARE PROJECTIONS.

IF WE WERE TO START A PROJECT, SAY THIS YEAR ANTICIPATING FUNDING THAT I'M SHOWING ON THE SCREEN SCREEN FOR 2024 AND OUR REVENUES ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN PROJECTED, THE FUNDS MAY NOT COME IN AT THAT RATE FROM ARPA, THEN I COULDN'T APPLY IT TOWARDS THAT CATEGORY.

RIGHT.

OK.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GO AHEAD, MATT.

AND SO COUNCILMAN VERA'S POINT UNDER THE CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT THE

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BENEFITS TO THE LOST REVENUE CATEGORY IS, AGAIN, BROAD LATITUDE AND USE.

THERE IS LESS REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S LESS REQUIREMENTS BASICALLY FROM THIS CATEGORY THAT ARE PLACED ON THE ENTITY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR IT.

BUT AGAIN, ONE OF THE CONS HERE IS THERE MAY BE IT MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY COMPLETING LARGE SCALE PROJECTS UNDER THE ARPA TIMEFRAME, UTILIZING THE LOST REVENUE.

WITH THAT MAYOR, I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE STAFF SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON AND THE FIRST IS A PROPOSED CALENDAR THAT WAS EMAILED OUT TO COUNCIL.

AND I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER IT.

AND TODAY IS OCTOBER 26TH.

THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING SEPTEMBER 1ST.

THE STAFF'S GOAL IS TO GET THE ARPA PROJECT LIST HOWEVER COUNCIL WANTS THAT TO BE SEEN BACK IN THE HANDS OF Y'ALL SO THAT Y'ALL CAN START REVIEWING.

BY SEPTEMBER 9TH.

WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL WORK SESSION AND GO OVER AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT SUMMARIES AND THE DETAILS AND ALLOW TIME FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 21, A PROPOSED PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON THE USE OF ARPA FUNDS.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME BACK TO BACK FROM OCTOBER 14TH THROUGH OCTOBER 28TH, SOME SPECIAL WORK SESSIONS FOR COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE AND ULTIMATELY MAKE FINAL DECISIONS ON THE DIRECTION OF THE ARPA FUNDS.

AND MAYOR, I GUESS I'LL LET YOU IF YOU WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS AS WE GO.

OR WOULD YOU PREFER I JUST GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION AND WE COME BACK.

I EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS OVER THE CALENDAR.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

EXCUSE ME, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT CALENDAR NOW OR TALK ABOUT IT LATER.

JUST AS A AS A PURELY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS ARE DAYS THAT I DO NOT HAVE CUSTODY OF MY KIDS AS A SINGLE DAD.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO THE SCHOOL RUN AND MAKE THESE MEETINGS.

I HAD TO LEAVE A VOLLEYBALL GAME EARLY TONIGHT TO MAKE TONIGHT'S MEETING, AND I HAVE THE KIDS TONIGHT.

SO I'D PREFER TO NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX THURSDAY MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T MOVE THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING TO SEPTEMBER 14TH, WHICH IS A REGULAR TUESDAY.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THE BUS ON THIS.

I'M NOT ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CHANGE IF IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

I'M NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO JUST WORK AROUND MY SCHEDULE AND RATHER THAN HAVE THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS OR THREE MEETINGS IN OCTOBER.

I WONDER IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GIVEN THE SCOPE OF IT.

THAT AS MUCH AS I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THEM, MAYBE WE NEED A SATURDAY MEETING OVER AT ROAD AND BRIDGE AND JUST HAMMERED IT OUT, YOU KNOW, A SOLID, SOLID SIX OR EIGHT HOUR MEETING.

I MEAN, IT'S HOW WE DID THE BOND PROJECT STUFF.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT.

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN WE DID THE BOND AND WE'VE DONE OTHER THINGS.

WE'VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF THE BOND STUDY COMMITTEE.

WE HAD PUBLIC INPUT.

I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING SOME HERE.

I KNOW.

I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO PERHAPS RIDE A LITTLE BIT ON THE COATTAILS OF WHAT WAS RAISED IN THE, EITHER WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE 2019 VOTE BOND PROGRAM AND PERHAPS THINGS THAT DIDN'T COME FORWARD IN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

BUT BUT I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION IS WHETHER WE NEED TO KIND OF MAYBE GET SOME FOLKS TOGETHER, TALK TO SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, GET A SMALL BUSINESS GROUP TOGETHER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I DO DEFINITELY FEEL THAT THAT THAT A SATURDAY IN OCTOBER COULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE NEED FOR THOSE THREE THURSDAY MEETINGS.

AND LET'S JUST.

THERE'S CERTAIN VALUE OF WEARING EACH OTHER DOWN TOO IN ONE LONG MEETING, WE CALL.

I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS A LOT OF WHAT GOT THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM DONE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERING OPINIONS THAT WERE AT 8:00 A.M.

THAT WERE RESOLVED BY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE THAT AFTERNOON.

SO JUST MY TAKE ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS, SIR.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN AUBIN ABOUT THE THE VALUE OF POTENTIALLY AN ALL DAY SATURDAY MEETING, AGAIN, JUST TO GET A LOT OF THE THINGS DONE WITHOUT GOING IN AND OUT, IN AND OUT.

AND THURSDAY NIGHTS ARE ALSO EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I HAVE AN OBLIGATION EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT THAT I HAVE TO THEN BREAK REPEATEDLY, WHICH IS A

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DIFFICULTY.

SO IF WE COULD GET OFF OF THURSDAY'S, THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME.

AND AGAIN, I AGREE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SATURDAY WORK SESSION.

LET'S BATTLE IT OUT, GET A BUNCH OF STUFF DONE AND GET OUT OF HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

OK.

ANYBODY ELSE HAD CALENDAR INPUT? I'M NOT OPPOSED.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SPENDING A SATURDAY WITH YOU FINE PEOPLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER VERA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I AGREE.

SATURDAY IS A GOOD TIME TO DO IT, AND WE CAN DO IT ALL DAY, ONE DAY AND GET IT OVER WITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST SAY I SECOND THE MOTION.

I AGREE TO A SATURDAY FOCUS AND LOOKING AT MATT, [INAUDIBLE] THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH, THAT'S THE WEEK OF THE TML ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

I KNOW THE COUPLE ARE REG, AND I'M REGISTERED FOR THAT.

I'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING WHETHER TO CANCEL BECAUSE OF THE VARIANT.

BUT SHOULD THAT SHOULD THAT CONFERENCE GO.

THAT'S THAT WOUND NOT BE A GOOD WEEKEND.

AND BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST.

WAIT A MINUTE.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S IN OCTOBER.

I'M SORRY.

TAKE THAT BACK.

BUT I AGREE TO THE SATURDAY, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD SEGUE TO WHAT WE CAME OUT OF THE THE COUNCIL RETREAT WITH.

AND WE THE RETREAT ON THIS, SO I WOULD I WOULD OPT FOR FOR A SATURDAY RATHER THAN THREE THURSDAYS MEETINGS MYSELF.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

VERY GOOD.

MR. BRADFORD.

GO AHEAD.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED WHEN PUTTING THE CALENDAR TOGETHER WAS WE WE COULD EASILY REARRANGE THIS BASED ON MONDAYS OR TUESDAYS ON NON COUNCIL WEEKS.

AND SO IF IF THAT WOULD MEET FOLKS SCHEDULE, THAT WOULD, WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK AS WELL.

I GUESS I AM A LITTLE BIT HESITANT ABOUT A LONG SATURDAY MEETING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THAT IS MATT IS GOING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN IN A ONE OR TWO SLIDES AFTER THIS ONE THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH A REITERATIVE PROCESS.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS, BUT IT WILL TAKE US SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN MAKE THOSE PROJECTS WORK WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME OF THE SPENDING DEADLINES THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO WE COULD EASILY FIND OURSELVES SETTLING ON SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT.

BUT THEN WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND TEST IT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY DO ON THE FLY AND SO.

WE'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS WHAT I ASK IS LET LET US GO BACK, PLAY WITH THE CALENDAR SOME MORE AND MAYBE FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S THERE'S SOME WAY FOR US TO TO MORE QUICKLY GENERATE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

HOPEFULLY I'VE I'VE COMMUNICATED IN ENGLISH TO YOU WHAT WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK WITH COUNCIL'S INPUT AND SEE IF WE CAN CAN MAKE THIS OR BE AMENABLE TO COUNCIL'S WISHES.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO DOING THE SORT OF OUR OFF MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS, THOSE DATES WORK FOR ME AS WELL.

ONE THING THE COUNCIL WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER IS THESE MEETINGS.

THESE MEETINGS WILL ALL BE IN PERSON.

WE WILL WE WILL BE SHIFTING BACK OUT OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS BY THEN.

GIVEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO WE'LL NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO PUT US OVERLAPPING ON SOME MONDAYS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ET CETERA.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF DANCE AROUND THAT A BIT.

BUT MR. BRADFORD, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN SORT OF REFOCUS THE SCHEDULE AND GET THAT GET

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THAT OUT TO US TOMORROW FOR EVERYBODY TO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING.

YES, SIR.

WE CAN WE CAN QUICKLY REVISE THIS AND GET SOME ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE.

OK, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE, MATT.

GO AHEAD.

OK, NOW JUST KIND OF MOVING ON TO THE APPROACH, COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THE I'VE THROWN SOME SCENARIOS THAT WE COULD YOU COULD POSSIBLY USE OR WE COULD USE COMBINATIONS OR WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DESIRES, BUT WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO TRY TO GET A FRAMEWORK FOR OUR APPROACH MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE MENTIONED THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION FOR MOVING FORWARD.

AND BASICALLY WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE ON COUNCIL PROBABLY RECALL THIS, BUT FOR THE NEW ONES.

THE WAY THE WAY WE APPROACH THIS IS THE LIST WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE REQUESTED THAT THEY RANK ALL OF THE ITEMS BASICALLY BY A, B, C AND D.

A BEING CRITICAL, AND D BEING MODERATELY HIGH.

AND THEN STAFF WENT BACK AND CALCULATED A WEIGHTED AVERAGE OF ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN CAME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND EVENTUALLY THE FINAL DECISIONS.

SO THAT'S ONE APPROACH.

ANOTHER APPROACH COULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROPOSED BUDGET PROCESS OR HOW WE GO FOR THE CIP PROCESS IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER BRINGS FORWARD A PROPOSED BUDGET AND COUNCIL DELIBERATES ON IT.

YOU COULD USE A COMBINATION WHERE COUNCIL PRIORITIZES A LIST AND THEN EARMARKS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

THEN THIS EXAMPLE IS FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR STAFF TO IDENTIFY THE INTERNAL NEEDS.

AND THEN WE BRING BACK FOR CITY COUNCIL OR THERE COULD BE OTHER APPROACHES.

REALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER OUR DETAILS AND OUR LIST, WE KNOW WHAT COUNCIL IS WANTING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

OK.

AND YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT, I MEAN, FOR FOR THOSE OF US WHO WERE ON THE COUNCIL DURING THE BOND, I MEAN, I THINK THE USING THE SAME APPROACH FOR THAT, I THINK THAT WORKED VERY WELL FOR SORTING THROUGH THE BOND, THE BOND PROJECTS, AND NOT BEING ONE TO WANT TO ALTER SUCCESS.

IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THAT WE FOLLOW THAT APPROACH BUT LIKE, SAY, IT SEEMED TO WORK.

OBVIOUSLY, NO SYSTEM IS PERFECT AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ALTERNATIVES.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

LET'S SEE.

I THINK.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A REAL QUICK ADD THERE IS TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT MAY ADDRESS DIFFERENT PARTS OF OF ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD SUGGESTED THAT WERE VERY COVID RELATED.

I KNOW THERE WERE PUBLIC HEALTH GRANTS THAT MAY APPLY TO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.

AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM WAS ONE BIG BUCKET OF FUNDING.

AND SO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW STAFF WANTS TO PRESENT THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS OR HOW WE MIGHT YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND DOING PRIORITIZATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT MY PRIORITIES MAY BE FUNDED IN OTHER BUCKETS THAN THE ARPA BUCKET.

AND SO IF IF STAFF CAN MAKE A POINT TO LOOK FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT COULD BE FUNDED BY ALTERNATE MEANS AND NOTE THAT.

I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL, EVEN THOUGH I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE CONFUSED UNTIL WE CAN KIND OF WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS A FEW TIMES IN THAT [INAUDIBLE] MANNER THAT MR. BRADFORD SUGGESTED.

AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I SEE MR. WATSON SHAKING HIS HEAD.

MATT, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? SURE.

I THINK WE CAN HANDLE THAT FOR COUNCILMAN SMITH.

PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY IS WE HAVE THE LIST NOW.

BUT AS IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, WE CAN GO THROUGH AND PUT THE OTHER SOURCE THAT COULD BE USED TO FUND THAT.

NEXT TO IT, AND BASICALLY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TAKE IT OFF OF THE ARPA LIST, BUT STILL HAVE IT TO Y'ALL AND SHOW Y'ALL THAT IT COULD BE FUNDED.

COUNCILMAN SMITH IS THAT? WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU? YES SIR, THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE FOLKS IN THE QUEUE.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I JUMPED OVER YOU, BUT YOU WERE IN OR YOU WERE OUT.

I'M NOT, WASN'T SURE.

I WAS IN AND THEN I WAS OUT, NOW I'M BACK IN.

OK.

WE'RE ALL GOOD.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH HAS TO SAY FIRST

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.

MY RECOLLECTION.

I MEAN, THE APPROACH ON THE BOND, THE APPROACH.

AND I DID, BY THE WAY, I FIND MY PADDLE, SO I DON'T NEED THE CITY TO SEND ME ANOTHER ONE.

BUT MY MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE YOU KNOW, THE APPROACH THAT WE DID FOR THE BOND PROGRAM, THE WHOLE RANKING, EACH PROJECT BY PRIORITY WAS ONCE EVERYTHING HAD BEEN APPROVED AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE BILL.

THE WHAT CAME TO COUNCIL, THOUGH, WAS DIFFERENT.

WHAT WE CAME WAS WAS BASICALLY WHAT HAD BEEN RANKED BY THE BOND STUDY COMMITTEE IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

AND THEN WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THERE AND WE WENT THROUGH EVERY PIECE OF THE BUCKET.

THAT'S THE KIND OF RATHER THAN THIS KIND OF RANKING THING, WHICH I WHICH I'VE NEVER PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH, I'D RATHER WE GET A LIST THAT INCLUDES THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED ITEMS. WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF THAT PUTS ALL OF THIS STUFF TOGETHER THAT HAS A YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND EVEN THE CITY MANAGER'S RATINGS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS HERE.

AND IF WE ARE FLYING WITHOUT A BOND STUDY COMMITTEE, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF STAFF INPUT ON THAT.

AND IT MIGHT BE RATED ON ON THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT WOULD BE ABLE TO TO BE COMPLETED.

IT MIGHT BE RATED ON, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN OTHER ASPECTS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DIVIDED INTO INTO CATEGORIES OR CLASSES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RATHER THAN STRICTLY TYPE OF PROJECT FROM A FROM A DEPARTMENTAL STANDPOINT, LIKE IS THIS A POLICE THING OR IS THIS A FACILITY THING, WHAT? I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS GEARED TOWARDS HELPING WITH RESPECT TO RECOVERY? AND THEN TO THE EXTENT THAT WE START GETTING INTO PROJECT WORK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BUCKETS.

AND I SENT THE COPIES OVER TO MR. WATSON, SURE COULD BE SENT AROUND TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, 2019 BOND PROJECTS THAT NEED MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF.

BECAUSE TO ME THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECOVERY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DAMAGE DONE TO US BY COVID.

A LOT OF THAT IS OR HAS BEEN THE INCREASE, THE DIFFICULTY IN GETTING MATERIALS AND THE INCREASED COST OF MATERIALS.

AND SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE FALLING BEHIND.

AND WE SAW THAT ON OUR LIST.

SOME ARE FAR ENOUGH BEHIND.

I WOULD CATEGORIZE THOSE DIFFERENTLY.

THERE ARE SOME THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD THE SCOPE.

ONCE WE AND I KNOW THAT HAPPENS, ONCE YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] WEST AT 39 IS A PROJECT THAT WE MAY HAVE NEVER PUT ON THE BOND PROGRAM AT 39 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE EXPLANATION.

BUT STUFF WHERE IT WAS IN THE SCOPE AND NOW WE'RE REDUCING THE SCOPE BECAUSE OF INCREASED COSTS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A BUCKET OF THAT AND THEN A BUCKET OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE STRETCH GOALS, LIKE IF WE SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS BOND ITEM, THAT'S A STRETCH GOAL.

SO THINGS ALONG THAT LINE AND THEN ANOTHER CATEGORY OF PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETELY NEW PROJECTS THAT THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE BOND PROGRAM BEFORE.

I KNOW WE HAD A FEW OF THOSE THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE BOND PROGRAM BEFORE AND PROJECTS THAT.

NOW, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON THAT BUT PROJECTS BASICALLY THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE BOND PROGRAM BEFORE AND OTHER NEW PROJECTS, PROJECTS FOR THIRD THAT ARE BASICALLY FOR THIRD PARTIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GET IT A LITTLE BIT GRANULAR ON THOSE BUCKETS, AND THEN COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES TO PRIORITIZE.

MY INCLINATION, I THINK, WOULD BE FIRST TO TAKE A CUT THROUGH ALL THE BOND PROJECTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I REALLY WANT STAFF.

I WANT PMO TO REALLY COME TO US.

WHEN WE HAD A VERY NICE PRESENTATION FROM PMO LAST WEEK THAT WAS LIKE, TELL US ALL THE GOOD THINGS.

BUT NOW I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I NEED ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT'S LIKE, TELL ME ALL THE NOT SO GOOD THINGS THAT YOU MAYBE REALLY DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE HARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ON SOME OF THESE BOND PROJECTS THAT NEED MORE MONEY OR THAT MAY NEED TO BE RETHOUGHT COMPLETELY.

SO ANYWAY, I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD IS.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIT OF A JUMBLE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A SERIES OF BUCKETS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM RATED BY STAFF OR GET COMMENTS ON THEM BY STAFF.

AND THEN LET'S GO FORWARD.

AND IF WE TAKE SEVERAL MEETINGS ON IT, THEN WE JUST GO THROUGH WE NARROW DOWN THE BUCKETS AS WE GO.

OH, MY OTHER CATEGORY WAS STUFF THAT'S PART OF A MASTER PLAN.

WE HAVE THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED, THE BIG PROJECTS, THE BIG STUFF WE'VE SEEN.

I THINK WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 12 AND

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20 MILLION DOLLARS AND OTHER STUFF, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I FEEL I MEAN, THIS IS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY IN SOME RESPECT, BUT IT'S OUR MONEY HELD IN TRUST FOR THE CITIZENS, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF GARLAND.

AND SO I THINK THOSE THINGS SHOULD PROBABLY BE VOTER APPROVED WHEN THEY START GETTING UP THERE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

VERY GOOD, SIR.

THAT WAS A VERY CONVINCING ARGUMENT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

MR. BRADFORD, MR. WATSON, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEARD ALL OF THE VARIOUS CATEGORY DETAILS IN THAT DISCUSSION.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE TO VOICE ANY FOR OR AGAINST THAT IDEA.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS, GO AHEAD.

OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THAT, THE CONCEPT OF HAVING LARGER PRIORITIZATION CATEGORIES RATHER THAN CATEGORY CATEGORIZING SIMPLY BY PROJECTS.

AND I SENT MR. WATSON SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, TO WHAT COUNCILMAN AUBIN WAS TALKING ABOUT, JUST FIVE BIG BUCKETS AND CATEGORIES THAT I FELT LIKE TO ORDER THIS IN MY MIND I USED WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THESE PROJECTS.

SO I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD LIKELY TO ME BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL TO TO GO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, COME UP WITH, AGREE ON, AGREE ON SOME BASIC CATEGORIES AND PRIORITIES, AND THEN START WORKING ON SLOTTING IN THE PROJECTS AND THE THE PROJECT PRIORITIES.

I DO LIKE I DO LIKE THE BASIC WAY WE DID A LOT OF THE 2019 BOND.

BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF PRIORITIZING BY CATEGORY PRIOR TO SETTING PRIORITIES TO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.

THAT DOES BECOME A JUMBLE.

SO I THINK I'M BASICALLY SAYING I SUPPORT WHAT I WAS GONE BECAUSE I GOT KICKED OFF.

SO I MISSED THE MIDDLE OF WHAT RICH SAID.

BUT THE PART THAT I HEARD I THINK I LIKE THE GENERAL APPROACH HE WAS USING.

SO THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I SUPPORT COUNCILMAN AUBIN'S SUGGESTION, JUST I'D LIKE TO ASK CITY MANAGER AND MATT, IF AS A PART OF THAT.

COULD YOU ALSO EXPAND THE SPREADSHEET MATRIX TO INCLUDE YOUR ASSESSMENT OR REJECTIONS ON ONE FUNDING AND THOSE PROJECTS THAT COULD BE THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE BY 2024? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT PUT TOGETHER AND AS A PART OF THAT DOCUMENT, IN ADDITION TO RANKING THE PROJECTS AND PUTTING THEM IN DIFFERENT BUCKET BUCKETS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY FACTOR IN OUR FINAL WHEN WE FINALLY COME UP WITH SO MR. BRADFORD.

COULD THAT BE DONE AS PART OF THIS? THE ROLL OUT BACK TO COUNCIL.

YES, SIR, AND IN FACT, WE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING TO YOU WHAT WHAT WE HAD IN MIND, WHICH IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WHAT THE COUNCIL IS IS DESCRIBING.

WE WE JUMPED AHEAD OF THE CATEGORIES AND STARTED GETTING INTO THE PRIORITIZATION PROJECTS WITHIN THE CATEGORIES.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT COUNCIL.

BUT, YES, WE WE WOULD ENVISION SEPARATING THE THE THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES AMONG CATEGORIES SIMILAR TO WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DESCRIBED.

I THINK THAT CERTAINLY WE WOULD IDENTIFY IF OTHER FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.

AND AND AND I THINK I THINK WE CAN CAN DETERMINE OR AT LEAST PROVIDE A WARNING ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ACTUALLY START AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITHIN THE PRESCRIBED TIME.

THE, I'M HOPING THAT BY THE TIME WE GET THESE INTO THEIR BROAD CATEGORIES, IT WILL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO REVIEW, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'VE BEEN DROWNING IN SPREADSHEETS THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

IT CAN IT CAN BE VERY, VERY OVERWHELMING.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT A LOT OF THE PROJECTS AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN HEDRICK CAN ATTEST

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TO THIS, BUT A LOT OF THE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED IN 2019 ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS AND PROBABLY FALL INTO THE CATEGORY THAT COUNCILMAN AUBIN WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE THESE ARE MAYBE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL, JUST GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF THEM.

I WILL TELL YOU FROM LOOKING AT THE STAFF, THE ONES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY MY STAFF, A GOOD NUMBER OF THOSE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IN IN THE OPERATING BUDGET OVER TIME.

AND AND THE FEWER PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE ARPA PROGRAM, THE EASIER IT IS TO MANAGE AND MONITOR AND REPORT.

AND SO IF IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN FIND OTHER WAYS, WE CERTAINLY WILL, BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO KEEP THIS MANAGEABLE.

BUT ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE GOOD.

AND I THINK THAT PROVIDES US A BROAD FRAMEWORK TO TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET YOUR HANDS AROUND, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT IS A LOT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

VERY GOOD.

I THINK WE'VE CLEARED THE QUEUE MATT.

GO AHEAD.

WELL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE, AS WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THIS LINE FIRST.

BUT BACK TO COUNCILMAN AUBIN AND COUNCIL LADY MORRIS AND SMITH HAVE ALL PROVIDE ME RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WE WERE PLANNING ON INCORPORATING ALL THOSE INTO THE SPREADSHEET AND GETTING AS MUCH DATA AND ORGANIZE IT IN THE FASHIONS THAT THEY'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT.

SO THAT WAS REALLY THE LAST SLIDE.

I SHOULD HAVE THAT FIRST, THEN TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE IT LAST.

THAT'S MY FAULT.

I APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PREDICT HOW OUR DISCUSSIONS WOULD GO AND WHAT ORDER THEY WOULD FALL.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE HERE I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE UP AND THERE'S COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

THERE WE GO, NOW I'M ON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST YOU KNOW, THIS IT REMINDED ME OF ONE OF THE ASPECTS THAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD RANK ON THAT I SENT TO MATT, WHICH IS WHETHER THE PROJECTS GEARED TOWARDS IMMEDIACY, INCLUSIVE, FUTURE PROSPERITY, AND WHETHER IT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO OUR CURRENT STRATEGY, WHICH IS ALL, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE WOULD GET THINGS THAT THE TALK ABOUT WHICH OF OUR COUNCIL GOALS DOES THIS WORK TOWARDS.

I THINK THAT'S A PARTICULARLY GOOD FRAMEWORK TO LOOK AT THE PURPOSES OF THIS MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE NEEDS, IMMEDIATE RECOVERY, THINGS THAT GUARANTEE OUR FUTURE STRENGTH GOING FORWARD, THAT IMPROVE OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR, IN OUR COMMUNITY, FOR PROSPERITY, AND TO WHETHER IF WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS PAN.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS PANDEMIC IS GOING TO GO ON.

SO THINGS THAT WE'RE KIND OF ARMOR STOP FOR THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, COMPONY CURRENT STRATEGY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT I KIND OF DROPPED THOSE IN THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD FRAMEWORK, A WAY TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, MATT I'M GONNA ASK IF THIS IS YOUR LAST SLIDE, IF YOU CAN, UNSHARE FOR ME SO I CAN.

SEE EVERYBODY HERE.

ALL RIGHT, I BELIEVE WE'VE CLEARED THE QUEUE, AND SO JUST A QUICK RECAP.

MR. BRADFORD AND STAFF WILL REWORK THE CALENDAR AND GET THAT PROPOSAL BACK OUT TO US.

AND THEN I THINK WE'VE CLEARLY COVERED THE STRUCTURE THAT THE INFORMATION WILL COME BACK TO AS FAR FOR AS FAR AS RANKING AND AND SETTING IN MOTION.

MATT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, OUR NEXT OUR NEXT POINT IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE'VE WE'VE SORT OF BEEN DOING THAT AS WE GO, WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD.

[4. Council discussion of American Rescue Plan Act]

BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL? IT'S JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, AS BRIAN SAID, THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL REITERATIONS OF THIS.

BUT AS FAR AS THE FIRST PASS, DO YOU DO YOU WANT BRYAN TO PUT IN? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT.

GO AHEAD AND HAVE HIM PUT IN HIS PROPOSALS AS WELL? I BELIEVE THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CONSENSUS.

YES.

VERY GOOD.

OK.

OK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AS WE

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AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS.

BUT ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR DIRECTION QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THIS EVENING.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

JUST A QUICK THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR TACKLING TWO BUDGETS AT THE SAME TIME.

I KNOW THIS IS HARD ON YOU GUYS AND YOU'RE LOSING SLEEP AND HOURS WITH YOUR FAMILY, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE BEST USE OF YOUR TIME AND THAT IT'LL BE WORTH IT FOR THE CITIZENS.

SO THANK YOU, GUYS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH'S TAKE ON THAT.

THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN WHAT IT MAY BE OR MAY NOT BE THE TAIL END OF WHAT'S BEEN A VERY UNIQUE 18 MONTHS.

AND SO KIND OF NEED TO MATCH ALL THAT UP.

AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF STAFF.

IT'S A HUGE EFFORT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT RELATIVELY COMPRESSED WHEN YOU COMPARED TO TO A BOND PROGRAM THAT WE SPENT.

YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR, PUTTING TOGETHER, IT WAS MORE LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF.

THERE WAS THAT PROCESS OF STAFF MARSHALING ALL THAT INFORMATION AND THEN PUTTING TOGETHER A BOND STUDY COMMITTEE AND THEN COUNCIL COMING IN.

SO THIS IS THIS IS REALLY COMPRESSED.

I HOPE WE CAN LEVERAGE A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THERE.

AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE TO THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTIONS, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS THAT THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE JUST ARE NOT WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE AWARE OF.

WHAT WHAT I WOULD URGE IS, AS WE LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT I DID NOT INCLUDE IS IS IS A CATEGORY FOR PROGRAMS, FOR RECOVERING, FOR HELPING THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE FOR THAT IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PLACES.

BUT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE TO WHETHER IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR TO INDIVIDUALS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE REACH OUT TO TO OUR COMMUNITIES OF INFLUENCE AND TALK TO FOLKS AND SEE WHAT OTHER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT MIGHT BE OF GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY AS WE CONSIDER ALL THIS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

VERY GOOD, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, IF NOT, AND I JUST REALIZED I MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY REORDERED THE AGENDA, BUT THIS TIME WE ARE AT ITEM FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE WILL HAVE 5A IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE 2021 22 PROPOSED BUDGET.

[5A. Hold a Public Hearing regarding the 2021-22 Proposed Budget]

SECTION FIVE, ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS BE HELD ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.

AT A PUBLIC HEARING, ALL INTERESTED PERSONS SHALL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD FOR OR AGAINST ANY ITEM CONTAINED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2021 22 HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION AT CITY LIBRARIES, THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY'S WEBSITE SINCE AUGUST 3RD, AUGUST 4TH, 2021.

A THIRD PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2021, HERE AT CITY HALL AND THE 2021 22 BUDGET IS SCHEDULED TO BE ADOPTED THAT SAME EVENING.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET? IF YOU'RE IN THE ZOOM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN THE ZOOM PLATFORM.

YOU CAN USE TO RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE OR I BELIEVE IT'S STAR NINE.

IF YOU'RE A PHONE ON A PHONE TO GET IN THE QUEUE.

ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET THIS EVENING? I DON'T HAVE, AND COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, SO I DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE IF THEY ARE JUST LISTENING IN.

SO I HAVE NO ONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

ITEM 5B IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED 2021 22 TAX RATE.

[5B. Hold a Public Hearing on Proposed 2021-22 Tax Rate.]

ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THIS EVENING.

AGAIN, COUNCIL, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

FEW PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE, BUT I'M NOT LIKE I SAY, I'M NOT SURE OF THEIR STATUS.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

I SEE NONE.

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WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ITEM.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING FOR THE SPECIAL SESSION.

AND AGAIN, COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL MAKING TIME FOR THESE SPECIAL MEETINGS.

WE ALL HAVE FAIRLY HECTIC, CHAOTIC LIVES.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

THE BEST WAY TO SPEND YOUR BIRTHDAY IS WITH WITH ALL OF YOUR BEST CITY FRIENDS.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME WITH US TONIGHT.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SIR.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE REMISS AND IN TROUBLE.

I ALSO PROBABLY SHOULD GO AHEAD AND WISH MY WIFE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY.

SO SINCE I'M SPENDING THAT TIME WITH WITH ALL OF YOU, ALL OF MY FAVORITE CITY FRIENDS, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.

EXCUSE ME.

AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUR WIFE? NO, I THINK I'LL.

I THINK THE CITY CHARTER PROBABLY PROHIBITS ME SINGING IN PUBLIC.

BUT WITH THAT AT 8:13, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.