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>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE ARE ON ZOOM AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY, THIS IS OUR LAST ZOOM MEETING, AND WE'LL BE BACK LIVE COME SEPTEMBER TO SEE EVERYBODY'S CHEERY FACE COME ON DOWN AND TALK TO US.

WE TYPICALLY START OUR MEETINGS WITH A PRAYER AND PLEDGE.

TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE IS LEAD BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, WE CAN.

>> MAY WE PLEASE PRAY? DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON US.

FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS, DEAR LORD.

HELP US ALL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.

WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR EMTS, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE PRAY THAT ALL THE PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN THAT WANT OUT ARE OUT.

WE PRAY FOR THE MARINES THAT WE'VE LOST THIS WEEK.

WE PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CROSSING OUR BORDERS.

BE WITH US THIS EVENING, DEAR LORD.

IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN.

>> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US [INAUDIBLE] HEARING IN PUBLIC, AND IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME IN THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE GO TO THE CITY OF GARLAND WEBSITE.

GO DOWN TO MEETING AGENDAS, FIND "PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA".

FOR THE SAME REASON, THERE WILL BE A LINK THERE TO JOIN OUR ZOOM MEETING IF YOU WISH TO JOIN IN, SO PLEASE DO THAT.

READY? ANYBODY WHO SPEAKS TONIGHT, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO YOUR MICROPHONE.

WE DO NEED THAT FOR THE RECORD.

WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE; OTHER PEOPLE WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES, BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP, AS I ALWAYS SAY, LIKE THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME.

FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA,

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AND THESE ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND THEN WE WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE MOTION.

I WILL GO THROUGH AND READ THE AGENDA.

ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED, LET ME KNOW, AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON PUBLIC WHO WISH TO [INAUDIBLE] FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW.

CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 1-A: CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR AUGUST 16TH, 2021.

ITEM 2-A: PLAT 21, 22 TOWN & COUNTRY ADDITION REPLAT.

ITEM 2-B: PLAT 21, 23 W.J KELLER ADDITION REPLAT.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY JUMPING TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA, SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> MR. CHAIR.

>> COMMISSIONER DALTON.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR? I GUESS JUST GO AHEAD AND VOTE BECAUSE WE CAN GO AND PLEASE.

THERE WE GO, AND I SEE SOME THUMBS UP, TOO, SO IT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS MISCELLANEOUS,

[3.a. Consider amendments to Chapter 7 “Downtown (DT) District” of the Garland Development Code to 1) create a Downtown Square (DS) sub-district and limit future uses allowed on the properties surrounding the Downtown Square, and 2) to eliminate off-street parking requirements in the Downtown Historic (DH) sub-district and proposed Downtown Square (DS) sub-district.]

AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS ONE THAT WE CARRIED OVER FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

IT'S CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 7 DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO, ONE, CREATE A DOWNTOWN SQUARE SUB-DISTRICT AND LIMIT FUTURE USES ALLOWED IN EACH PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE, AND TWO, TO ELIMINATE OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUB-DISTRICT AND PROPOSED DOWNTOWN SQUARE SUB-DISTRICT.

WELL, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION ON THIS?

>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL KEEP IT PRETTY BRIEF.

>> OKAY.

>> I'VE GOT A FEW SLIDES HERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT OKAY?

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. SO AS Y'ALL RECALL, WE DISCUSSED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, AND IT WAS ULTIMATELY POSTPONED TO THIS EVENING, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW ITEMS WHERE THE MEETING LEFT OFF, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO MENTIONING THE PARKING-RELATED ADDITION AS WELL THAT CAME OUT AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE.

BUT JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP FROM THE AUGUST 16TH PLAN COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION ASKED STAFF TO MEET WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS.

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WE DID HAVE A MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY, A ZOOM MEETING.

MR. CHAIRMAN ROBERTS WAS IN ATTENDANCE, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL AND APPRECIATED.

WE HAD SOME FOLK SHOW UP, AND THEN THOSE THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO SHOW UP, STAFF REACHED OUT TO THEM, AND I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS, AND DID THAT OUTREACH AS WELL LAST WEEK.

THE ASSEMBLY HALLS CLARIFICATION, Y'ALL PROBABLY SAW THE EMAIL FROM MR. ENGLAND.

HE PUT TOGETHER THAT DOCUMENT, WHICH HOPEFULLY, CLARIFIED SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ON ASSEMBLY HALLS.

THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, THE COMMISSION WILL NEED TO MAKE THIS A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AS YOU PASS THIS ALONG TO COUNCIL, BUT THE COMMISSION MENTIONED, AND THIS WAS MENTIONED IN LAST WEEK'S MEETING WITH THE DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL, THAT IT IS THE COMMISSION'S INTENT TO ALLOW GENERAL OFFICE AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTION USES BY RIGHT.

MOVING ON, ON THE SAME DAY ON AUGUST 16TH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE MET AGAIN AND THIS TIME FOCUSED ON DOWNTOWN PARKING.

ULTIMATELY, THEY PASSED ALONG AND HAS RECOMMENDED THAT MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE ELIMINATED IN THE, OF COURSE, THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE SUB-DISTRICT THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE ZONING CHANGES AS WELL AS THE OVERALL DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUB-DISTRICT, SO ESSENTIALLY, ANYTHING THAT IS ENCOMPASSED BY WALNUT STREET TO THE NORTH, THE RAILROAD TO THE EAST, AVENUE A BEING THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, AND GLENBROOK DRIVE BEING THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.

THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON REQUIREMENT OR LACK THEREOF, I SHOULD SAY, FOR SOME CITIES GOING THIS ROUTE IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREAS.

THE REASON BEING THAT A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES AND BUSINESSES RELY COMPLETELY ON ON-STREET PUBLIC PARKING VERSUS HAVING TO PROVIDE ON-SITE PARKING, WHICH, IN MANY CASES, IS JUST NOT DOABLE WITH LOT COVERAGE BEING, IN SOME CASES, A HUNDRED PERCENT, AGAIN, THEN RELYING COMPLETELY ON ON-STREET OR SOME OFF-SITE PARKING.

IT'S BEEN A BIT CHALLENGING FOR SOME NEW BUSINESSES THAT COME IN AND HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE APPLIED IN THOSE TYPES OF CASES.

THAT HAS BEEN A BIT OF A REGULATORY CHALLENGE, SO THAT IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED, SO WE'RE PAIRING THAT ALONG WITH THIS.

IF THIS ORDER PROCEEDED, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE SAME ORDINANCE REQUEST.

WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL STOP THERE AND OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS YOU NEED? NO? PART OF THE REASON FOR THE PARKING IS IN ITS [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT, HOW CAN SOMEBODY BUILD UP OR BUILD ANY MORE SPACE WHEN THEY CAN'T GET THE PARKING SORTED.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

MR. [INAUDIBLE], IS THE COUNCIL SUB-COMMITTEE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PARKING ISSUE IN DOWNTOWN, IN GENERAL, ANOTHER DAY? ANY IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT FIRST? [NOISE]

>> I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THERE WAS A PARKING STUDY THAT THE CITY INITIATED.

I BELIEVE [INAUDIBLE] WAS THE CONSULTANT.

MS. LETECIA IS AVAILABLE.

SHE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK A BIT MORE TO THAT, BUT THERE WAS A PARKING STUDY THAT WAS LOOKED AT ON THE GREATER DOWNTOWN AREA AND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

>> YES, I AM. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I COULD JUST WALK THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.

IN 2018 AS [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED [INAUDIBLE] COMPLETE A PARKING STUDY OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THAT AREA REFLECTS THE SAME STUDY ZONE AS IS PROPOSED ALIGNING WITH ESSENTIALLY THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUB-DISTRICT.

THAT STUDY TOOK PLACE OVER THREE DAYS, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY.

THEY MONITORED THE AREA FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.

SOME BIG TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT PROJECT WERE THAT WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE AN ISSUE AS FAR AS PARKING AND EXCEEDING THE EFFECTIVE CAPACITY THRESHOLD BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 12:00 TO 2:00 SO AROUND THE LUNCH HOUR.

IT IS AROUND THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF RESTAURANTS.

WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, HOWEVER, PARKING IS AVAILABLE WITHIN 500 FEET WALKING DISTANCE, IN MOST DIRECTIONS.

THEN I WOULD ALSO SHARE THAT SOME OTHER FEEDBACK THAT CAME OUT OF THE STUDY

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IS SPECIFIC TO SOME OF THE UTILIZATION OF RESTRICTED SPACES IN THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES AND THAT THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFECTIVE PARKING MANAGEMENT REGARDING THOSE STALLS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN THAT ARE LIMITED TO THREE HOURS, GIVEN THAT THERE'S SOME CONSISTENCY IN PARKING EXCEEDING THAT MAXIMUM CAP OF THE THREE HOUR TIME PERIOD AS WELL.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE PARKING STUDY AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE, YOU'RE BEHIND THE CAMERA THERE BUT I SAW A HAND GO UP.

>> HOW CAN THE CITY ENFORCE, ENCOURAGE, WHATEVER THE PROPER WORD IS, CITY EMPLOYEES, TO NOT PARK ON CITY STREETS BUT PARK IN THE GARAGE? I'VE HEARD REPEATEDLY, THAT CITY EMPLOYEES ARE PARKING ON 5TH STREET AND STATE STREET.

WELL, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE AND THEIR CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK.

CITY EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE ENCOURAGED, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT IF THEY PARK IN THE GARAGE, THEY HAVE TO WALK OVER, BUT SO WHAT? [NOISE]

>> I'VE HEARD THOSE COMPLAINTS TOO.

>> IF I COULD ADD ANOTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THE STUDY AS WELL.

TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER ROSE, WE ABSOLUTELY HEARD THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS CENTERS AS WELL.

THEN ANOTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THE PARKING STUDY AND JUST MONITORING HABITS DOWNTOWN AND UTILIZATION OF THE STALLS, AGAIN, OUR PEAK HOURS ARE SET TO THE LUNCH PERIOD TIME FRAME.

SO 12:00 TO 2:00, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, SOMETIMES FOUR O'CLOCK ON SATURDAYS.

THEN IT DROPS DRAMATICALLY DOWN FROM 2:00 TO 4:00, 4:00 TO 6:00, AND 6:00 TO 8:00 AND 10:00, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY PARKED IN THOSE STALLS.

WE'VE ESTIMATED HERE THAT THE MERCHANTS THEMSELVES ARE PARKING IN THE SPACES AND IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES, IF NOT THEIR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

IT SPEAKS TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFECTIVE PARKING MANAGEMENT AS A WHOLE DOWNTOWN TO YOUR POINT. YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING? WELL, WE'VE GOT A WHOLE TOPIC BACK UP AGAIN, BUT TRACY, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE LIST.

>> WE DO NOT ANY SPEAKERS, SIR.

>> OKAY. WELL, WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE THING AGAIN AND I DID ATTEND THAT MEETING.

SOME OF THE THINGS I GOT OUT OF IT IS SOME OF THE OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE, SAYING SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK AND IF ALL THESE [INAUDIBLE] RESTRICTED WITH OUR FLEXIBILITY.

OTHERS WERE TALKING ABOUT APARTMENTS, AND I THINK WE TOUCHED ON THAT AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT PAST, WE'VE LOOKED AT APARTMENT USERS ON UPPER LEVELS [INAUDIBLE] USERS ON LOWER LEVELS, SO YOU CAN GET UP TO THE UPPER LEVEL.

LOBBIES AND STUFF. WHAT ELSE HAVE WE LOOKED AT? THE MULTIFAMILY AND ALLOWING FINANCIAL, ALLOWING GENERAL OFFICE AND RECORDING THINGS.

APPARENTLY, ONE OF THE REQUESTS FOR BUSINESSES THAT WAS MENTIONED IS ENTERTAINMENT [NOISE], AND WITH ASSEMBLY BUILD THE WAY IT IS EXPRESSED OR WRITTEN AND WE PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE SMALLER TAMER VENUES ON THEIR OWN, SO THEY'D HAVE TO BE LINKED WITH A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT JUST BRINGS UP SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING THERE?

>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT QUESTION THAT WAS IN MY NOTES.

I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT, BUT THAT'D BE A GREAT CLARIFICATION TO GET AS THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO THAT ROUTE TO ALLOW UPPER FLOOR OF APARTMENT DWELLINGS.

>> BUT WE ALREADY HAD THAT DOWNTOWN [NOISE] RIGHT ACROSS FROM CITY HALL.

CITY'S GOT THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ONE OF THOSE OFFICES ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEN THERE ARE APARTMENTS ABOVE IT.

SO A MANAGED PRECEDENT IN [INAUDIBLE].

ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THIS WHOLE MATTER BEFORE WE SEND IT DOWN TO THE COUNCIL. COMMISSIONER LUCHT?

>> I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE BUSINESS OFFICES SHOULD BE

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ALLOWED DOWNTOWN AFTER THEIR TIME RUNS OUT THERE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

I REALLY DON'T WANT TO ATTACH THAT CAVEAT TO OUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ROSE?

>> YES, I WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THAT, GIVEN THAT PEOPLE WORK IN OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE THEORY THEN IS THAT THEY WOULD EAT DOWNTOWN AND HELPS SUPPORT DOWNTOWN.

I GUESS YOU MIGHT BE ASKING WHAT KIND OF AN OFFICE? OBVIOUSLY, THESE BUILDINGS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE 200 OR 300 PEOPLE WORKING IN OFFICE BUILDING.

BUT AS A LAW OFFICE OR COMPANY'S OFFICE, IT ONLY GOING TO HAVE MAYBE A HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE AND THAT IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, I DON'T BELIEVE.

THEREFORE, WE SHOULD ALLOW OFFICE USE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO RESTRICT IT SO IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT.

>> COMMISSIONER OTT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OFFICE USE, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR, ESPECIALLY, A DOWNTOWN TO HAVE CITY HALL THAT'S WITHIN JUST 50 YARDS TO HAVE A LAW OFFICE.

IT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL ALSO TO HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM.

ALL OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE ON DOWNTOWN AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE VERY INTRUSIVE AND IN FACT, THEY ACTUALLY ADD SOME OF THE PATRONS THAT GO TO OUR LUNCH USES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT OFFICE USE, AT THE VERY LEAST, SHOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN SCP IF NOT OUTRIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERNS BEYOND IT.

>> I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYTHING INTO LEGAL NONCONFORMING, YOU'VE SETTLED THINGS THAT WAS INTENT OF WHAT'S BEING DONE.

I QUOTE NEWTON, GEORGIA, MY SON LIVES IN NEWTON, AND IT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST DOWNTOWNS IN GEORGIA, IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY ONES NOT BURNED DURING THE WAR.

IT'S MARVELOUS DOWNTOWN AND IT'S GOT A VARIETY OF SHOPS, OFFICES.

WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK THREE-DIMENSIONALLY, NOT JUST THE FIRST FLOOR BUT THE BANK HAS OFFICES UPSTAIRS.

THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT CAN HAVE OFFICES UPSTAIRS, WHICH DO NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DOWNSTAIRS HAVING SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EXISTING RIGHTS, I WOULD WANT TO KEEP OFFICE IN. COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON HAVING OFFICES DOWNTOWN.

I JUST BELIEVE THAT THE BOTTOM FLOOR AND STOREFRONT AREA, WHICH THEY'RE TRYING TO REVITALIZE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.

JUST AS COMMISSIONER ROSE SAID, THOSE OFFICES DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE ON THEM.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN REGARDS TO BRINGING PEOPLE IN.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SECOND STORY OFFICES OR APARTMENT DWELLINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE'S SO LITTLE SPACE DOWN THERE THAT I REALLY FEEL THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT, RETAIL, FOOD VENUES, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE AND I DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR 100 YEARS TO HAVE TO LEAVE BUT I DO SEE THAT IN ORDER TO INNOVATE OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, SOME SACRIFICES HAVE TO BE MADE.

I'M TRYING TO BE VERY PRAGMATIC ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF I GO THE FEELING WAY AND ABSOLUTELY I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO LOSE THEIR OFFICE.

I TOTALLY GET THAT.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT.

ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON ANY PARTS OF THIS TOPIC? SEEING NONE AND WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC INPUT,

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ANY COMMISSIONER WHO WISH TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A MOTION, NOT FABRICATE, IT'S A LONG WORD, PUT TOGETHER A MOTION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

>> BEFORE WE GO, I CRANK THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR THEIR FOLLOW-THROUGH REGARDING THE CLARIFICATION FOR ASSEMBLY HALLS AND FOR THE FOLLOW-UP WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROCESS.

I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. ENGLAND, DID A EXTENSIVE 50,000 PAGE SUMMARY THE NEXT NIGHT.

THAT WAS FANTASTIC TO READ.

I REALLY THANK MR. GUERIN AS WELL FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE AND FOLLOW-UP.

>> GOOD POINT. THEY HAD BUSTED THEIR BUTTS AND THEY DID WORK TO GET THAT MEETING PUT TOGETHER LAST WEEK QUICKLY AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT AND I THANK THEM FOR IT.

[NOISE] ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSE?

>> MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE PUT TOGETHER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS THING? THIS ITEM THAT'S DOCUMENTED IS SO LENGTHY.

DO WE JUST SAY WE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THEN IT'S APPROVED BUT ALLOWING OFFICE IN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS?

>> [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T THINK WE'RE EXACTLY APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING IT OR FORWARDING IT WITH OUR COMMENTS AND WE CAN STAY IN MOTION ANY PARTICULAR COMMENTS IN GENERAL.

BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT WE'RE SAY NOW.

LANDOWNERS DOWN THERE BEEN WATCHING WHAT WE SAY.

I THINK THEY DO APPRECIATE OUR INPUT AND EVERYTHING.

DO YOUR BEST AND IF I CAN GUIDE YOU, I WILL.

[LAUGHTER]

>> EXCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS?

>> YES.

>> WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, MR. CHAD JONES.

>> MR. JONES?

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> DEFINITELY CAN.

>> OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT, I WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY MIC AND WANTED TO BE SURE I GOT IN.

A COUPLE OF THINGS AND YOU ALREADY TOUCHED ON A FEW OF THEM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS ON THE DWELLING.

FOR THE LONGEST TIME THE DWELLING WAS A VALID USE AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT POTENTIALLY HAVE INCORPORATED IN SOME OF OUR SPACE, AND SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT DWELLING STILL BE ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED USE.

THE OTHER THING IS JUST FROM A FLEXIBILITY STANDPOINT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING SOME ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SPACE THAT SEEMS TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THE ASSEMBLY.

WE'RE ULTIMATELY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THERE COULD BE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY GIVEN THERE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THOSE USES.

THOSE WERE TWO OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON AND GET OUT THERE.

>> ONE THING I MAY POINT OUT AND I WENT OVER THIS WITH MR. GUERIN, HE CAN CHIME IN IF HE WANT.

WHAT WE DO OR WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES ISN'T SET IN STONE.

WHATEVER WE DO USE STILL SUBJECT TO A SPECIAL ZONING CASE SUCH AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR A MAJOR WAIVER, IN ESSENCE, PLAN DEVELOPMENT YOU'D CALL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SOMEBODY COMES FORWARD WITH A WONDERFUL IDEA, WITH SOME ENTERTAINMENT, WITH SOME MIXED USE ENTERTAINMENT.

THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.

YES, IT'S A PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH ZONING VERSUS NATURAL RIGHT BUT IT'S NOT A DEAD ISSUE. COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

>> I'M SORRY. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE MR. JONES GIVE HIS ADDRESS AND IDENTIFY HIMSELF FOR THE RECORD?

>> THANK YOU. YOU KEEP ME HONEST ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

CHAD, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE MICROPHONE.

>> SURE. CHAD JONES, 3629 GLENBROOK COURT, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75041.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JONES? THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER IMPORTANT MOTIONS? WE GET THE BIG BUCKS FOR.

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>> [OVERLAPPING] GO AHEAD.

>> [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT COMMISSIONER LUCHT WANTS TO TALK SOME MORE.

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, SO YOU GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT, THIS ITEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH THE INCLUSION OF OFFICE USE AND FINANCIAL USE.

>> COMMISSIONER OTT, IS THAT A SECOND?

>> NO, A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE UPPER FLOOR APARTMENTS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN THE SUGGESTION THAT THEY INCLUDE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, GENERAL OFFICE, AND MULTIFAMILY ON THE UPPER LEVELS.

>> CHAIRMAN, CAN WE ALSO INCLUDE, AND MIGHT BE A POINT OF ORDER, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT BY DEFAULT. SURE WE CAN.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?

>> COMMISSIONER OTT.

>> COMMISSIONER OTT. OKAY. DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER LUCHT, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING IN?

>> WELL, IF I AGREE TO THAT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT I AM ALSO AGREEING TO THE ADDITION? OR COULD I JUST SAY COUNCIL, PLEASE HEAR WHAT I SAID EARLIER IN THE MEETING [LAUGHTER] AND STILL AGREE?

>> I THINK THEY JUST DID.

>> OKAY, GREAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH, IT'S ONE NICE THING. THE COUNCIL DOES PAY ATTENTION TO US AND DECADES PAST, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY, BUT THEY DO LISTEN TO OUR INPUT AND WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS PACKAGE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT THEY INCLUDE GENERAL OFFICE WITH THE NOTABLE EXCEPTION, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND MULTIFAMILY ON THE UPPER LEVELS AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.

>> YES, CHAIRMAN, I SPEAK GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

I ACTUALLY JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS MOTION DOES NOT FULLY ADDRESS THE ENTERTAINMENT ISSUE, WHICH WOULD BE A MAJOR BOOM FOR THAT AREA AS WE LOOK INTO THE REVITALIZATION UP NOW.

IT'S SUCH A SMALL LIMITED AREA AND I STILL THINK THE ASSEMBLY HALLS PORTION COVERS THE ENTERTAINMENT AND BASH.

THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

CLUSTER DOWNTOWN SQUARE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT CHARS TO THE CITY.

I THINK CONCERTS AND HAD BEEN FOUND THERE.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, LET'S JUST BE CERTAIN THEN THAT'S CONSIDERED AS WELL, BUT AGAIN, GENERALLY SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

>> YEAH. MAYBE THAT COULD BE IF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO PASS ACCOUNTABLE.

LOOK AT THE PAST ABILITIES OF [INAUDIBLE] ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT MESSING UP THE ASSEMBLY DEFINITIONS.

[NOISE] COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT 100 PERCENT.

WE HAVE TWO INSTITUTIONS, TWO BUSINESSES DOWN THERE NOW THAT DO EXACTLY THAT.

MILESTONE PIZZORANTE, WHEREVER IT'S CALLED, AND INTRINSIC, THEY BOTH HAVE ENTERTAINMENT AREAS AND I THINK THOSE NEED TO STAY THERE.

>> WELL, I THINK THEY WOULD BECAUSE THEY'RE RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG COMMISSIONER JENKINS SUDDENLY IS MORE DEDICATED TO MAYBE A JAZZ PLACE THAT SERVES DRINKS, LIMITED FOOD, AND THEN IT WOULD RUN ACROSS WAYS WITH THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE RATIOS AND NO ODD EVERYTHING.

BUT SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF WHAT COMMISSIONER JENKINS WAS PROPOSING? I THOUGHT I SAW COMMISSIONER OTT'S HAND GO UP.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT? I'LL JUST STATE AGAIN, SO WE'RE CLEAR HERE.

TO FORWARD THIS ITEM ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THIS SUGGESTION THAT THEY INCLUDE GENERAL OFFICE WITH A NOTED SINGLE OBJECTION HERE THAT MAY BE WORTHY OF FIGURING OUT FINANCIAL OFFICES MULTIFAMILY ON THE UPPER LEVELS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ENTERTAINMENT.

[NOISE] THE SECOND WAS BY COMMISSIONER OTT FIRST AND THE MOTION WAS BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.

I THINK I'LL LEAVE THAT ONE.

READ ENOUGH TIMES. [LAUGHTER] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

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SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT APPEARS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

DID I SEE YOUR HAND GO UP?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU, SAM. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING ONE.

CONSIDERATION, RESCHEDULING OF THE SEPTEMBER 13TH,

[3.b. Consider rescheduling the September 13, October 11, November 8, and December 13, 2021 Plan Commission meeting dates and/or times, to avoid conflicts with City Council Work Sessions.]

OCTOBER 11TH, AND NOVEMBER 8TH, AND DECEMBER 13TH, 2021 MEETINGS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MEETING DATES AND ALL TIMES TO AVOID FUTURE CONFLICTS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS AND MR. [INAUDIBLE], DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YEAH. JUST I'LL SHOW UP A SLIDE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US.

JUST AS A BRIEF REMINDER, THAT ASKS HERE IS TO EXPLORE AN ALTERNATIVE DATE OR TIME ON THESE PARTICULAR DATES WHERE WE CONFLICT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS.

IT CREATES SOME CONFLICTS IN TERMS OF US NOT BEING ABLE TO BE TELEVISED LIVE AND SOME VENUE-RELATED ISSUES AS WELL WITH THE COUNCIL STILL MEETING IN CHAMBERS FOR THEIR WORK SESSIONS.

ONE CLARIFICATION ON SEPTEMBER 13TH CURRENTLY THE NEXT PLAN COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13 AT 7:00 PM.

I THINK INITIALLY WE SUGGESTED 13TH, 15TH, OR 16TH.

THE 16TH WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC, AS WE'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN AUGUST 16TH IS A MIDDLE DATE, AND WE DO HAVE ONE 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK APPLICATIONS, SO THE SEPTEMBER 15TH IS DAY 30 FROM THAT MIDDLE DATE.

SEPTEMBER 15TH WOULD BE THE LATEST WE COULD MEET WITHOUT VIOLATING SHOT CLOCK LAWS.

JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

AS I BELIEVE I NOTED IN THE ITEM SUMMARY SHEET HAD SUGGESTED WE COULD AND ONE COMMISSIONER REACHED OUT THE OTHER DAY.

I GOT YOUR MESSAGE COMMISSIONER THAT THIS WOULD HAVE WORKED FOR AT LEAST ONE PERSON, BUT THE SUGGESTION WAS WHY DON'T WE KEEP THE DATES BUT MEET A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE DAY.

THAT'S ONE THOUGHT. BUT HERE ARE THE SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVES, TIMES, AND ALL DATES IN FRONT OF YOU.

YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL PUT THE BALL BACK IN YOUR COAT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS IS BROUGHT TO US BY COVID IN THE STATE LAW BECAUSE NORMALLY DURING THE YEAR WE HAD TWO OR THREE CONFLICTING DATES AND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE BUT WITH COVID AND LIMITED VENUES AND THE STATE LAW THAT 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK, WE'RE PUT INTO THIS POSITION.

NOW I RECOGNIZE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET UNANIMOUS CONSENT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN MEET AT A CERTAIN TIME.

MY GOAL WOULD BE TO ASSURE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE CAN BE, I'M GOING TO REMAIN OPEN.

TRACY, WAS THERE ANY CONSENSUS IN THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT OR? [INAUDIBLE]

>> THE CONSENSUS I HAD SIR WAS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS SUFFERED FROM THEY WOULD GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WAS.

>> [LAUGHTER] SO WE AGREE TO GO ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE? LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

>> YES, SIR.

>> [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH MEETING ON A DIFFERENT NIGHT, BUT THE SAME TIME, AT SEVEN O'CLOCK SO THERE IS CONSISTENCY WITH WHEN WE MEET? JUST IT HAPPENS TO BE ON A DIFFERENT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A CONFLICT.

>> WELL, WE HAD LOOKED AT THE TWO NIGHTS AT THE IMMEDIATE NIGHT AFTERWARDS.

WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS WITH PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS SO WE'RE LOSING TWO, WHICH ALLOWED US TO BELIEVE TO LOSE TWO MORE [INAUDIBLE] OUT OF TOWN STILL HAD A QUORUM.

[INAUDIBLE] WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHEN WE'RE MEETING AND WORK IT OUT SO WE HAVE A CHOICE OF ONE DAY LATER EXCEPT ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] OR TWO DAYS LATER AND IT WAS SUGGESTED TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.

MAYBE WE'LL JUST GO AROUND AND SEE IF THERE'S A PREFERENCE AND THEN WE'LL [INAUDIBLE] COMMISSIONER JENKINS YOU RAISED YOUR HAND UP.

>> YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON IS THAT THE GENERAL IDEA FOR THE EARLIER TIME, I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING AT 5:00 AM, ARE WE TALKING 12:00 AM, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?

>> 5:00 AM I WON'T BE THERE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THE REST OF US CERTAINLY WILL BE.

>> I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING WRITTEN ABOUT 2:00 PM.

[00:35:02]

I THINK THERE WAS A NEW PACKET ON THAT.

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

SORRY FOR NOT CLARIFYING THAT BY SAYING EARLIER IN THE DAY.

2:00 PM IS A SUGGESTION, BUT THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE THE MEETING AND BE DONE WELL BEFORE THE WORK SESSION, BEFORE MS. DOWLE AND HER TEAM NEED TO START SETTING UP FOR WORK SESSION.

>> THE WORK SESSIONS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO START AS EARLY AS 4:00, BUT, TYPICALLY, THEY'RE 5:00 OR 6:00, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

STAFF HAS TO MAKE A TRANSITION, AND THEY HAVE TO GET PREPARED FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND EVERYTHING, SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS SUGGESTED.

[NOISE] COMMISSIONER LUCHT, AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE TIME THE SAME, AND I WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE I ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON IS QUITE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO.

I RUN A BUSINESS, SO IT'S HARD TO GET AWAY AT THAT TIME.

>> YEAH. EVERYBODY KILLED ALL AFTERNOON.

>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S A TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WORKDAY.

[LAUGHTER].

>> COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> WHY CAN'T WE MEET IN THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM ACROSS THE STREET AND THE HAVE IT RECORDED LIKE THIS.

IF PEOPLE WANT TO WATCH IT, THEY WATCH IT THE NEXT DAY OR WHENEVER IT GETS ON TV JUST FOR THOSE FEW.

KEEP OUR MEETING SET AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON MONDAY AND HAVE THE CITY STAFF HAVE A CAMERA OVER THERE AND SET IT UP AND RECORD IT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN INTERJECT.

>> YES.

>> THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABLE TO DO ZOOM MEETINGS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR HAS ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ALLOWING US TO DO ZOOM MEETINGS.

ONCE HE DECIDES THAT COVID NO LONGER EXISTS IN OUR STATE OR IS NO LONGER A PROBLEM, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.

ALSO, WE HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO ALLOW CITIZENS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE PANEL TO BE PRESENT TO ADDRESS THEM EITHER ON ZOOM OR IN PERSON, AND IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT ON ZOOM DUE TO GUBERNATORIAL DISCRETION, THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THOSE STATUTES IN THAT REGARD.

>> WELL, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSE IS GETTING TO, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, WELL, THE COUNCIL BUILDING WAS UNDER RECONSTRUCTION, AND WE MET AT THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM, AND THERE WERE CAMERAS ALREADY SET UP THERE, SOMETHING ON THE CEILINGS AND EVERYTHING, SO IT WAS RECORDED AND PLAYED LATER.

IT WAS A LIVE MEETING, AND THE PUBLIC COULD COME IN AND TALK AND EVERYTHING, BUT MR. GUERIN, I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD PROBABLY DISCUSS SOME OF THAT.

ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES WITH THAT?

>> I THINK THE ONLY CHALLENGE WITH THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM IS JUST THE AUDIO VISUAL, THE EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER SET UP IN THERE.

AGAIN, I THINK THERE ARE SOME LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES WITH TRYING TO HAVE AUDIO VIDEO AT THE SAME TIME AS WORK SESSIONS, BUT I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE WAS JUST THAT IT'S NOT REALLY SET UP FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.

>> SO THEY DISMANTLED ALL OF THAT?

>> I THINK SO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS INFORMED, THE AUDIOVISUAL [OVERLAPPING].

>> I'VE GOT A GOPRO I CAN BRING.

[LAUGHTER].

>> CHAIRMAN ROBERTS?

>> YES?

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUMP AGAIN.

LET ME TURN MY SPEAKER DOWN.

THERE IS NO GEAR ANY LONGER IN THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM.

WHEN WE MOVED OVER, WE HAD PULLED ALL OF THAT OUT, SO WE HAVE NOTHING IN THAT ROOM AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. IT HAS TO BE A SINGLE-CAMERA PRESENTATION ON A TRIPOD OR SOMETHING?

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSE.

>> I'M SORRY, BUT I ATTENDED A FUNCTION, AND DAN WAS THERE WITH A CAMERA AND RECORDED THE WHOLE THING.

WHY CAN'T THAT BE DONE? A SINGLE CAMERA, OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SWING IT AROUND AND CATCH SOMEBODY THAT'S SPEAKING AND SWING IT BACK AND GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM, AND THEN PLAY THAT TAPE LATER ON.

ONE CAM, NOT FOUR OR FIVE, JUST ONE.

>> YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO SET UP MICROPHONES, TOO.

>> WELL, BUT THAT'S ALL CONNECTED, YES.

>> WELL, NOW, WE'VE WORKED IN THE PAST.

WHAT DOES THAT DO IN TERMS OF YOU AND YOUR STAFF BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS AT WORK SESSIONS AS WELL AS TO US? NOW, IN THE PAST, THE SECOND-IN-COMMAND HAD CHAIRED OUR MEETINGS OR SAT IN ON OUR MEETINGS, WHICH WORKS FINE.

[00:40:03]

>> WELL, I MAY HAVE TO JUST REFER BACK TO DAN AND JUST SEE WHAT THOSE CAPABILITIES ARE IF WE GO THAT ROUTE IF THERE'S AN ABILITY THERE TO SET UP A LAPTOP WITH SCREENS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I COULD SEE THAT BEING A CHALLENGE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT IN THERE ANY LONGER.

I'M NOT VERY TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY BEYOND ZOOM, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK TO DAN'S DIRECTION.

>> THAT IS THE POINT. ALL THE PRESENTATIONS ARE DONE ON MONITORS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT SET UP ANYMORE.

>> RIGHT.

>> YEAH. LET ME JUST POINT OUT SOME OTHER THINGS FOR THE COMMISSION.

PEOPLE LIKE GOING TO CITY HALL.

THE GOLDIE LOCKE ROOM WAS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WAY, BUT IT BECAME THE STANDARD BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS MEETING THERE, SO DO WE TRY TO MEET AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON A DIFFERENT DAY? SAME BAD TIME, JUST A DIFFERENT BAD DAY TO TURN AN OLD BAD PHRASE, OR DO WE DO IT THAT WAY? I WANT TO THINK WHAT'S EASIEST TO THE PUBLIC, TOO.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THE ALTERNATIVE DAYS, THOSE WEDNESDAYS SEEM TO ALL WORK AND STAY WITHIN THE 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK, SO IT COULD BE THOSE WEDNESDAYS OF THOSE SAME WEEKS AT 7:00 PM.

>> LET ME ASK THE COMMISSIONERS, DOES WEDNESDAY WORK? COMMISSIONER PARIS, I THINK YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO CHIME IN?

>> YEAH, I WAS REACTING TO THE WEDNESDAY.

AGAIN, A REMINDER IS THAT'LL BE A CONFLICT ON WEDNESDAYS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THURSDAY MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY, IT MAY NOT BE FOR SEPTEMBER, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER DATES LEVERAGING THAT THURSDAY AT 7:00 AS A RECOMMENDATION, I THOUGHT WAS AVAILABLE, SO THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THERE.

THEN JUST A REMINDER ON THE 13TH, 2:00 PM IN THE AFTERNOON WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR ME AS WELL WORK-WISE, AND THEN WEDNESDAY WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.

THOSE TWO REMINDERS, AND THEN A QUESTION ON THOSE THURSDAY DATES.

>> I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL EXCLUDED.

I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THURSDAYS WORK IN A 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK THING.

TO SOME OF YOU NEWER COMMISSIONERS, IT'S SOMETHING THE STATE DID TO US IN 2019.

ONCE AN APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED SOMETHING FOR APPROVAL THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF FOR SUBMITTAL, WE HAVE TO HEAR IT WITHIN 30 DAYS, AND THAT INCLUDES NOTIFICATION, GETTING EVERYTHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC OR TO CONSIDER APPROVED.

THERE WAS A PUSHBACK.

AGAIN, SOME CITIES WOULD JUST DRAG THINGS OUT AND DRIVE DEVELOPERS CRAZY.

WE CALL IT A SHOT CLOCK LIKE A BASKETBALL SHOT CLOCK.

COMMISSIONER PARIS, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP AGAIN? THERE YOU GO.

>> I DID, AND I UNDERSTOOD THE SHOT CLOCK IMPACT FOR SEPTEMBER AND WHY WE DEFINITELY NEED TO STAY WITH EITHER THE 13TH OR THE 15TH BECAUSE OF THAT.

I THOUGHT MAYBE THERE WOULD BE MORE OPPORTUNITY IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.

I DID SEE SOME THURSDAY DATES AS OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT FOR SEPTEMBER.

>> YEAH. RIGHT. SHE'S CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR SEPTEMBER AND DECEMBER.

OCTOBER, THAT THURSDAY THE 14TH COULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST OUR ONLY COMPLICATION WITH THURSDAY.

EVEN IN THAT CASE, WE HAVE TO ADJUST OUR SUBMITTAL DATE FOR DEVELOPERS, PUSH IT BACK A DAY OR SO IN ORDER TO STAY WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, BUT THAT SEEMED TO BE AN OPTION.

>> LET'S NARROW SOME OF THIS DOWN.

FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING, TWO O'CLOCK IS NO-GO, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. LET'S THROW THAT OFF THE TABLE.

[LAUGHTER] WE'RE LOOKING AT WEDNESDAYS OR THURSDAYS POSSIBLY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK EXCEPT IN SEPTEMBER, WHERE IT WOULD BE WEDNESDAY.

LET'S JUST GO AROUND.

I'M GOING TO CALL, AS Y'ALL ARE ON MY SCREEN.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY, EITHER ONE OR BOTH WORK? UNMUTE, PLEASE. UNMUTE.

>> ALL RIGHT. I KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT THAT.

MY WIFE TELLS ME THAT ALL THE TIME MUTE.

[LAUGHTER] WHAT IS WRONG WITH STAYING WITH MONDAY? ON RUMBLE NIGHT?

>> WELL, ONE THING IS I DON'T THINK THEY WANTED ANYBODY USING [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE GOLDILOCK ROOM?

>> AGAIN, IT'S NOT SET UP.

[00:45:03]

NOW WE GET OUR PRESENTATIONS BE MONITORED, AND THEY HAD IT SET UP WITH THE NINE MONITORS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SET UP DOWN THERE.

>> OKAY. DO THEY NOT HAVE ANY BIG SCREENS IN THERE, THEY TOOK EVERYTHING OUT? I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS OUT?

>> PRETTY MUCH SO.

>> DANNY, YOU AROUND? [LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> COMMISSIONER ROSE, YES.

LET ME TURN MY SPEAKER DOWN SORRY.

THERE IS GPS EQUIPMENT WHERE I BELIEVE YOU CAN STILL PLUG IN A LAPTOP AND YOU'VE GOT THOSE TWO PROJECTORS FROM THE REAR THAT YOU CAN SEE, BUT WITH THE CONFIGURATION OF THE ROOM, YOUR BACK WOULD BE TO THEM.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO WHERE YOU COULD SEE THOSE, AND SO I HAVE THOSE PRESENTATIONS AID.

>> WELL, WE COULD JUST TURN OURSELVES AROUND.

>> I SEE A VOTE FOR NO CHANGE THERE.

LET ME LOOK AROUND, COMMISSIONER PAIRS.

I THINK YOU WANTED TO BE THURSDAY ON TO THE MONTHS WHENEVER POSSIBLE, RIGHT?

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, IT SEEMS LIKE THURSDAY WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

YES, I'D UNDERSTAND SEPTEMBER.

I WOULD BE CHALLENGED TO BE THERE.

BUT YOU WOULD HAVE A QUORUM BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ONLY TWO OF US THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT CHALLENGE.

>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONED O'HARA, YOU'RE NEXT ON MY SCREEN HERE.

>> EXCUSE ME. THURSDAY IS FINE.

>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER OTT?

>> I'M EASY GOING ANY OF THESE DAYS IS JUST FINE I [INAUDIBLE] BACK IN THE AFTERNOON OR FIVE IN THE MORNING.

I'M PRETTY EASYGOING.

>> YOU'LL BE PRETTY LONELY AT FIVE IN THE MORNING.

I CAN TELL YOU. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

>> COMMISSIONER LUCHT?

>> I WOULD PREFER THURSDAY FOR OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE WILLING TO SHOW UP AT ANY OF THESE YOU'RE NEXT ON THE SCREEN [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER DALTON?

>> I'M VERY FLEXIBLE LIKE COMMISSIONER OTT.

>> OKAY, AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

>> FLEXIBLE.

>> FLEXIBLE. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS?

>> FLEXIBLE.

>> FLEXIBLE. SO FAR I'M SEEING PROBABLY A PREFERENCE FOR THE THURSDAYS WHEN WE CAN AND IT'LL HAVE TO BE WEDNESDAY IN SEPTEMBER.

I'M THINKING MORE OF STAFF IN THE WORK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO TO GET US READY FOR FOUR DAYS IN GOLDILOCKS ROOM AND ALL THE STUFF THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

CAN I SEE A NOD OF HEADS IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH [OVERLAPPING] GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ROSE?

>> I'M A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE, BUT NOT AT TWO O'CLOCK, SO WE WANT TO DO IT ON THURSDAY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

>> YES. SEVEN O'CLOCK. WE WANT THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND TALK, THEY HAVE TO TAKE OFF FOR WORK TO DO SO.

I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.

>> GIVEN THAT THEN I'M FLEXIBLE.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK.

WE'RE NOT PASSING EMOTIONAL OR JUST COME INTO AGREEMENT.

WOULD EVERYBODY BE OKAY WITH THE PROPOSAL OF DOING IT ON THURSDAYS AND OCTOBER AND DECEMBER? WE HAVE TO DO IT IN OCTOBER AND DECEMBER AND HAVE TO DO IT ON WEDNESDAY AND SEPTEMBER.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT?

>> AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

>> SEVEN O'CLOCK. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S DO IT THEN.

THANK YOU, FOLKS? I DIDN'T THINK WE'VE COME INTO A REAL AGREEMENT ON THAT, BUT IT WORKED OUT, AND WE WILL MISS YOU IN SEPTEMBER COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT INCLUDED THE WEDNESDAY IN DECEMBER AS WELL, RIGHT?

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A CONFLICT IN DECEMBER TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES, SIR. I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH A THURSDAY IN DECEMBER HAD TO DO WITH THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE GOING TO MEET ON WEDNESDAY [INAUDIBLE] THURSDAY AS THE LAW DICTATES. [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. COOL. ONTO OUR ZONING CASES ITEM 4A AND AGAIN,

[Items 4a & 4b]

THIS IS A TWO-PART OF 4A AND 4B.

CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF MM, CG, DBR, DFW, LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USER PROVISION TO ALLOW A RESTAURANT DRIVE-THROUGH AND PROPERTY ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL.

THERE'S PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5801 BROADWAY BOULEVARD, AND IN ITEM 4B IS CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MM, CG, DBR, DFW, LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT, DRIVE-THROUGH ON PROPERTIES ON COMMUNITY RETAIL.

[00:50:01]

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5801 BROADWAY. GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD EVENING?

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> THIS IS THE CASE AS STATED AND THE APPLICANT IS [INAUDIBLE] TO CONSTRUCT A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] COFFEE SHOP.

THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION.

>> CAN SHE SPEAK LOUDER?

>> I THINK SHE'S CUTTING IN AND OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY.

>> YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

>> THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED 5801 BROADWAY BOULEVARD AND THE ACREAGE IS 0.535 ACRES.

THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.

THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN TEAL AND THIS TURQUOISE IS IN THE CASE THE AREA OF REQUEST, THIS IS DUCK CREEK DRIVE IN BROADWAY BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTY IS MAINLY SURROUNDED BY COMMUNITY RETAIL, WHICH CONSISTS OF A GAS STATION, DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS, A SHOPPING CENTER, AND THEN ALSO IN THE REAR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS A TRANSIT-ORIENTED CENTER.

THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN.

THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.

THIS FIRST IMAGE IS THE SUBJECT AREA FOR REQUESTS.

IN THE REAR, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A FURNITURE STORE, AND THEN VERY FAR REAR, THERE'S THIS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT.

THE GAS STATION.

THEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM BROADWAY, IS ANOTHER DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, AND ALSO A GROCERY STORE.

THIS IS THE SITE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED FOR THIS REQUEST.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, COFFEE SHOP CALLED DUTCH BROS CAFE.

THE RESTAURANT DRIVE-THROUGH REUSE IS ALLOWED IN A COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, HOWEVER A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION IS REQUIRED FOR THIS PROPOSAL.

THE APPLICANT IS MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS PER THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROVIDING SIGNAGE FOR THIS SITE, AND THEY ARE MEETING THE GDC REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.

THEY ARE MEETING THE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING REGULATIONS AS PER THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.

THAT'S THE SOUTH ELEVATION, THE WEST ELEVATION, THE NORTH ELEVATION, AND THE EAST ELEVATION.

THE BUILDING DESIGN COMPLIES WITH THE GDC REQUIREMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING THE ORDERS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 5:00 AM-11:00 PM.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A 25 YEAR SUP, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY DEVIATIONS WITH THIS REQUEST AND THIS IS A SUP ONLY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH ON A PROPERTY ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH ON A PROPERTY ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.

WE MAILED OUT 66 NOTIFICATION LETTERS, WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

[NOISE]

[00:55:12]

ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, MR. MOORE, IS HE AVAILABLE? THERE'S HE, MAY YOU GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR, NAME, AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? YOUR PHONE INPUT IS STILL MUTED.

[NOISE] GO AHEAD, MR. MOORE.

HE HAS TO UNMUTE.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING HIM YET.

YOU'VE GOT TWO CONNECTIONS.

ONE IS YOUR PHONE, AND ONE MAY BE YOUR LAPTOP.

MR. CHAIRMAN, TRACY SAYS SHE'S CALLING HIM NOW.

OH, OKAY.

TO SEE IF HE'LL RESPOND.

WELL, KIMBERLY, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION.

I NOTICED IN THE PLAN THERE ARE THREE DRIVE LANES, THERE ARE ONLY MENU BOARDS, AND THE THIRD ONE INTENDED TO KIND OF A BYPASS LANE.

IS THAT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD? IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT BUT IT IS TO BE DRIVE LANE, BUT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THREE DRIVING LANES.

MENU BOARDS ARE ONLY SHOWING IN TWO OF THEM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS INSTALLED INSIDE THE MENU BOARDS.

THEY'LL HAVE RUNNERS TO TAKE THE ORDER.

OKAY. THREE LANES, THEY'RE PLANNING ON SELLING A LOT OF COFFEE.

WHO HAS SEEN. YOU JUST MUTED YOURSELF, MR. MOORE.

PLEASE UNMUTE IF YOU CAN.

YOU GOT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY.

I HOPE THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT EXTEND THE ZOOM MEETING.

[LAUGHTER] HI. THIS IS SAM MOORE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

WELCOME TO OUR MEETING, SIR.

HOLD ON. SORRY, THIS IS SAM MOORE WITH MAIN & MAIN CAPITAL GROUP. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

OKAY. SORRY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING Y'ALL.

STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ZOOM A YEAR AND A HALF INTO COVID.

[LAUGHTER] BUT MY NAME IS SAM MOORE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT COMING UP.

DUTCH BROS IS THE LARGEST PRIVATE COFFEE COMPANY IN THE US, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THEIR EASTERN EXPANSION, INTO THE DFW MARKETPLACE.

GARLAND IS ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES IN THE DFW TO GET ONE OF THE STORES.

WE ARE A 950 SQUARE FOOT DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP, WHERE YOU COME AND GET TEAS, COFFEE, ENERGY DRINKS, AND MAYBE EVEN SOME PREPACKAGED ITEMS, FOR FOOD LIKE BISCUITS AND ENERGY BARS.

BUT OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'RE YOUR BEST START AT THE MORNING OR EVEN IF YOU'RE WORKING LATE, COME BY AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE ON YOUR WAY HOME.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE A 950 SQUARE FOOT MODULAR BUILDING.

WE WILL HAVE SOME FEATURES ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH ADDED PLANTERS AND BENCHES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

IS THERE ANY BUSINESS CONDUCTED INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IS IT STRICTLY DRIVE-THROUGH?

>> HELLO.

YOU'RE UNMUTED. GO AHEAD.

>> DID YOU HEAR ME? DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION? CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I DID, BUT.

>> I'LL ASK AGAIN. IS THERE ANY BUSINESS CONDUCTED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING OR IS IT STRICTLY DRIVE-THROUGH BUSINESS?

>> SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, I CAN HEAR [LAUGHTER]

>> GO AHEAD MR. MOORE.

>> I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU ALL ON MY SIDE.

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>> THE QUESTION WAS, IS THIS ANY BUSINESS CONDUCTED ON THE INSIDE OR [OVERLAPPING].

>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE VOLUME UP ON MINE.

>> OKAY.

>> I GUESS MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT, BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS WHILE I WOULD PRIMARILY BE DRIVE-THROUGH AND AS KIM'S SAID EARLIER THAT HAVE THE RUNNERS OUT THERE TAKING ORDER IS VERY SIMILAR TO CARRYING OUT CHICK-FIL-A IS GOING, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE A STAFF PERSON AVAILABLE IN THE KIOSK TO FIX THEIR DRINKS AND HAND THEM THEIR DRINKS AND IF THE WEATHER IS REALLY BAD OR REALLY LATE AT NIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THE THING I BELIEVE FOLKS COULD JUST DRIVE RIGHT UP TO THE KIOSK AND ORDER AND GET THEIR DRINK THAT WAY.

>> NOT A BUNCH OF SIT-DOWN SPACE OR ANYTHING?

>> NO, SIR. I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> NOT INSIDE AT LEAST.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TRACEY, ANY OF THE SPEAKERS IN THIS ITEM? I DON'T GUESS SO.

NO SIR. WE DO NOT.

AM ACTUALLY SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY.

>> [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. WELL, ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYBODY WHO CAN MAKE A MOTION IN THIS ITEM?

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SUP AND PLAN FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

>> COMMISSIONER O'HARA HAND GO UP WITH, WOULD THAT BE A SECOND COMMISSIONER O'HARA OR YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION FIRST, COMMISSIONER [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, I DID WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FIRST BECAUSE THIS IS MY DISTRICT, BUT SHE GOT TO IT FAST.

>> [LAUGHTER] A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER O'HARA TO APPROVE THE SUP AND THE PLAN AND IT WAS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

[OVERLAPPING] WAS THERE A QUESTION FOR MR. ROSE?

>> THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING?

>> YEAH, I ALMOST DO THAT.

UNLESS I HAVE TO, BUT YEAH. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS?

>> HE DIDN'T GIVE US HIS ADDRESS.

>> YOU FALLING BEHIND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS CORRECT YOUR NETWORK.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM AGAIN.

>> THAT'S FINE. WE CAN GET IT LATER.

>> STAFF GOT HIS ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND THE PLAN AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER O'HARA.

ANY DISCUSSION? THERE'S IS VOTE.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DIFFICULTY.

>> OKAY. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> SAM MOORE, 2505 PENHURST'S COURT, CELINA, TEXAS 75009.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

>> IT KEEPS EVERYBODY HAPPY.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY. NEXT ONE AGAIN IS ANOTHER DOUBLE ITEM.

[Items 4c & 4d]

ITEM 4C CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICATION AT WGI, INC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 15-40 FOR MULTIFAMILY USES.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4401 BUNKER HILL.

ITEM 4D CONSIDERATION TO THE APPLICATION OF WGI, INC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY BUILT ON A PROPERTY ZONED PD 15-40 FOR MULTIFAMILY USES, AGAIN, 4401 BUNKER HILL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. YES SIR.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL. I'M NOT TAKING THIS CASE BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN.

>> OKAY.

>> EXCUSE THIS EVENING. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH 356 DWELLING UNITS ALONG WITH A TRAIL.

THE CURRENT PD ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.

THIS IS THE DETAILED PLAN CONSIDERATION IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.

THE LOCATION IS 4401 BUNKER HILL ROAD.

THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 11.7 ACRES IN SIZE.

INSIDE A ZONED PD 15-40.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN NORTH GARLAND, JUST NORTH OF GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, HERE'S THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN TEAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST, IS AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE DOMAIN AT 140.

THE ORIGINAL PD WAS ENVISIONED WHERE THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY THE PHASE 1, AND TONIGHT'S CASE IS ESSENTIALLY THE PHASE 2 AT LARGER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

ALTHOUGH IT'S TURNED OUT THAT IT HAS

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SOME DIFFERENT OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS DOING EACH AREA, BUT FORTUNATELY THEY ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH ONE ANOTHER.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE OTHER AREAS OF 15-40, WHICH ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE, AND IT IS ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD, ACROSS BUNKER HILL ROAD IS WITHIN THE CITY OF SACHSE.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.

THIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN A ENVISION GARLAND PLAN PRIOR THE PD 15-40 BEING APPROVED, WHICH AGAIN ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OF BIT MORE DEPTHS, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, BUT INCORPORATES PARKS AND OPEN SPACES [INAUDIBLE] TO THE SOUTH AS WE'LL SEE HERE SHORTLY IN THEIR SITE PLAN.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA, SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE TOP LEFT HERE.

TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAINST THE EXISTING DOMAIN AT 140 DEVELOPMENT.

NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOOKING INTO SACHSE AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY [NOISE].

HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THERE ARE FIVE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS OUTLINED IN THE BROWN COLOR HERE EACH.

WELL, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BEING 44 FEET IN HEIGHT FOUR STORIES.

OUTLINED IN YELLOW HERE IS THE SWIMMING POOL AREA AND A CABANA AND CLUBHOUSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

DOWN HERE OUTLINED IN GREEN IS A VILLAGE GREEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AS WELL AS A DOG PARK.

IN ADDITION, WITHIN THIS AREA WOULD BE INCLUDED THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA, DOG WASH, A SHADE STRUCTURE.

THIS AREA WOULD BE VISIBLE TO THE POND TO THE SOUTH, AND I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE OTHER GAMING AREAS, BUILT-IN BARBECUE GRILLS, AND FIRE PITS, AS WELL AS FESTOON LIGHTING.

HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

IT COMPLIES WITH THE LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS AT GDC.

I'LL NOTE HERE THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A FIVE FOOT PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OUTLINED IN RED HERE.

THEY ALSO PROPOSE A SIX FOOT TRAIL ALIGNMENT THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO THE SOUTH AND CONNECT TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL CLOSER TO ROWLETT.

THIS IS A MORE CLOSER LOOK AT THE TRAIL THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO SOUTH AGAIN, THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL.

THIS WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE OWNERSHIP TO PROVIDE THAT TRAIL.

TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

ONE OF THE DEVIATIONS AS I'LL NOTE HERE IN A FEW SLIDES IN OUR DEVIATION TABLE HAS TO DO WITH CONNECTIVITY, THE PD CALLED FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONNECTION TO CONNECT PHASES 1 AND 2 DIRECTLY, SHOWN ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT OWNERSHIPS AND DEVELOPERS ULTIMATELY DEVELOPING EACH AREA.

WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES IS RATHER THAN A DIRECT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, THEY'RE PROPOSING AS I JUST SHOWED A MINUTE AGO.

THIS DOESN'T OF COURSE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY, BUT THIS SHOWS THE GENERAL SAME PATH.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY FROM THE EXISTING BUNKER HILL SIDEWALK DOWN THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WOULD STOP ABOUT HERE IN PHASE 2, BUT FROM STEP OUT AND CONTINUE TO THE WEST, HERE, BUT THEY WOULD CONTINUE AND PROVIDE THE TRAIL CONNECTION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL.

THESE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS WOULD BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING THE PHASE 1 RESIDENTS.

I SHOULD NOTE, THE PHASE 1 DEVELOPER AND OWNERSHIP PARTNER SUBMITTED A LETTER TO STAFF MENTIONING THAT THEY DO NOT PREFER TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THERE.

THEY CONCUR WITH THE PROPOSAL.

JUST AS ANOTHER SIDE NOTE IS JUST GETTING OFF THE SIDE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE EXPLORING TRYING TO MAKE THAT LAST CONNECTION HERE FROM THE EXISTING DOMAIN AT 140 IS LOOP BLOCKING PATH DOWN TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL.

WE'D LOVE TO SEE THAT CONNECTION MADE, SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUPS OUT THERE AND INTERNALLY ABOUT EXPLORING THAT AND HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IT CAN BE THE LAST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE HERE AND MAKE SURE ALL THE RESIDENTS HAVE THAT ACCESS.

BUT AGAIN, THIS PEDESTRIAN PATH WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC NOT JUST THE PHASE 2 RESIDENTS.

HERE'S SOME SAMPLE CROSS-SECTIONS THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.

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ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE OUT THERE.

FOR THE DOMAIN AT 140 ALONG BUNKER HILL ROAD, YOU SEE THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING LINING BUNKER HILL ROAD.

YOU HAVE A ROW OF TREES AND LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALK, AND THEN THE STREET ITSELF.

SIMILAR CROSS-SECTION THAT ARE INTERNAL DRIVES ALMOST MIMICKING A PUBLIC STREET, HAVING A STREETS-CAPE ELEMENTS THERE, AND THEN A CROSS-SECTION DOWN HERE ALONG THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF THEIR BUILDINGS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN TRAIL CLOSER TO THE POND AREA.

I'LL RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS HERE.

PROPOSED AGAIN, FOUR STORIES UP TO 44 FEET IN HEIGHT.

THESE MEET THE BUILDING DESIGN REQUIREMENTS OF THE GDC.

SUDDEN ELEVATIONS OF THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, AND THE CLUBHOUSE, AND CABANA.

CLUBHOUSE AND CABANA AGAIN.

TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT IS REALLY PROPOSING TWO DEVIATIONS.

I MENTIONED THE CONNECTIVITY ONE.

THAT'S A DEVIATION FROM THE PD.

AS FAR AS A DEVIATION FROM THE GDC, BEARER REQUESTING CARPORT STRUCTURES REALLY IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR 50 PERCENT COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT.

THEY NEEDED A FEW SITE DESIGN DEVIATIONS HERE.

ONE OF THEM, THE GDC REQUIRES NO MORE THAN 10 PARKING STALLS.

UNDER A COVERED PARKING STRUCTURE, THEY WOULD HAVE FOUR CARPORT STRUCTURES THAT WOULD HAVE MORE THAN 10.

I'LL SHOW THOSE ON THE SITE PLAN HERE.

LET'S SEE. IT'S SIMPLY THAT THESE THREE HERE.

ONE, TWO, EXCUSE ME, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO CLICK. ONE, TWO, THREE.

THEN ONE OVER HERE AS WELL.

IT'S NOT MORE THAN 10 PARKING SPACES IN A ROW.

IT'S 10 THAT ALIGN HEAD IN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

THE GDC IS NOT REAL CLEAR ABOUT WHETHER IT MEANS NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE MORE THAN 10 IN A ROW, OR JUST 10 TOTAL.

BUT GOING WITH THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION, THE GDC, 10 TOTAL, IT EXCEEDS THAT.

THAT'S THE DEVIATION THERE.

THEN THE OTHER CARPORT-RELATED DEVIATION JUST HAS TO DO WITH SPACING.

IT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 18 FEET, POST-TO-POST, BETWEEN CARPORT STRUCTURES.

THEY WOULD HAVE TWO CARPORT STRUCTURES THAT ARE ABOUT 12 FEET APART, AND THAT IS SHOWING THIS AREA HERE.

BUT THAT IS THE ONLY AREA, AND THEY WOULD HAVE LANDSCAPING.

THE GDC DOES REQUIRE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS BETWEEN CARPORT STRUCTURES, SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOME TREES AND GROUND COVER LOCATED BETWEEN THEM.

THE PURPOSE OF THOSE DEVIATIONS IS TO MEET THE COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO CLUSTER OR SKEW THE CARPORTS AWAY FROM THE VILLAGE GREEN AREA INTO THESE AREAS TO ALLOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS, KEEP THAT REAL NICE LOOKING.

THEN THE OTHER DEVIATION HAD TO DO IS CONNECTIVITY, AS I'VE JUST MENTIONED, RATHER FROM THAT DIRECT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONNECTING THE TWO PARK APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THE ALTERNATIVE'S TRAIL PATH.

SUCH RECOMMENDATION HAS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST OF THE PD AMENDMENT AND THE DETAILED PLAN.

IN ADDITION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE WALKING PATHS AND TRAILS PROPOSED THROUGH THE SITE AND CONNECTING WITH A REGIONAL TRAIL BE PROVIDED AT A MINIMUM WIDTH OF EIGHT FEET.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S A LITTLE MORE COMMON, IN TERMS OF TRAILS AND WHAT NOT.

IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATION LETTERS, WE MAILED OUT FIVE NOTIFICATION LETTERS.

WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST.

ONLINE, WE RECEIVED EIGHT AGAINST THE REQUEST.

THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA.

WITH THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL STOP SHARING.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE]? I'VE GOT A COUPLE.

I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE RESPONSES, I THINK IT WAS AN ONLINE RESPONSE.

I DON'T RECALL THIS, BUT APPARENTLY, WHEN THE ONE RIGHT NEXT DOOR WAS DONE, EITHER THEY PRESENTED OR MAY HAVE PRESENTED SOMETHING ABOUT PARKING DEVIATION.

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IT WAS REQUESTED, AND THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS AT THE NEXT PHASE.

THIS BEING THE NEXT PHASE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DONE, OR IF IT'S EVEN AN ISSUE.

>> YES, SIR. GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

YES, WHEN PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ABOUT 5-6 YEARS ALMOST NOW, THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME DID REQUEST A PARKING REDUCTION, A PARKING DEVIATION, FOR LESS PARKING.

IT WAS APPROVED THAT WAY.

IT TURNED OUT TO BE PROBLEMATIC.

THEY WERE A BIT SHORT ON PARKING, WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES OUT THERE.

SOME FOLKS WERE PARKING FIRE LANE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT FORTUNATELY, STAFF WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE MANAGEMENT THERE, AND FIND ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL ONSITE PARKING.

I BELIEVE WE'RE ABLE TO FIND ABOUT 25 PARKING SPACES THAT HAS BEEN PERMITTED.

I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND HELPED ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

PHASE 2, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, IS NOT ADDRESSING PHASE 1 PARKING ISSUE, BUT THAT'S HOW THAT WAS RESOLVED.

I THINK I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HAND IN THE CONNECTIVITY HAVING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

THERE IS SOME POSSIBLE CONCERN THAT FOLKS MAY PARK IN ONE AND WALK TO THE OTHER.

CERTAINLY, THEY CAN'T SPEAK MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT MADE THAT A CONCERN AS WELL.

THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING MEETS THE GDC PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING A DEVIATION.

>> THIS ISN'T LINKED TO THE FIRST ONE, THEN WE'RE GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP FOR WHOEVER WROTE IT, IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.

I THOUGHT I'D FORWARD IT ON.

IS BUNKER HILL A GARLAND ROAD OR A SACHSE ROAD?

>> IT IS A CITY OF SACHSE ROAD.

>> TYPICALLY, WE NOTIFY A NEIGHBORING CITY WHEN SOMETHING'S ADJOINING THEM.

DID WE SEND THEM A COPY OF ALL THIS AND EVERYTHING? DID THEY HAVE ANY INPUT?

>> YES, SIR. THEIR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THE REQUEST, AND INDICATED THAT THE DRIVEWAY SPECS AND DRIVER LOCATIONS MEET THEIR DESIGN CRITERIA.

>> THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THERE ALWAYS IS, BUT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT TOO.

>> YES.

>> DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN PHASES OR NOT? OR IS IT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DETAILED PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS WHAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY CALLED PHASE 2, BUT THEY WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

BUT AS YOU GET FURTHER TO THE WEST, THAT MAY BE A FUTURE PHASE 3 AND BEYOND.

BUT THOSE WOULD BE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, APPLICANTS MOST LIKELY.

>> THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR THE APPLICANT ONCE THEY COME ON.

BUT I NOTICED ON THE DETAILED PLAN, THAT OPEN AREA WHERE THE DOG PARK IS AND EVERYTHING, THERE IS A NOTE THAT SAID UNDER A SEPARATE CONTRACT, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONSTRUCT THAT RIGHT AWAY.

CAN WE PUT THAT IN AS A CONDITION OF THE PD, THAT ALL AMENITIES, INCLUDING THE GREEN SPACE, IS FINISHED UP BEFORE ANY BUILDINGS ARE SEALED CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY GRANTED?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE BRINGING THAT UP WITH THE APPLICANT.

>> WELL, I THINK I JUST DID IF HE'S LISTENING.

HE'S GETTING BETTER. FIFTEEN SECONDS TO PUT HIS THOUGHTS TOGETHER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. [INAUDIBLE]? SORRY. I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO AFRICAN SPEAKERS, AND WE HAVE A CITIZEN.

>> CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?

>> YES. MR. KLASING, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> YES. THIS IS DREW KLASING WITH PRICE DEVELOPMENT.

MY ADDRESS IS 4228 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, SUITE 300, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75206.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN?

>> IT SHOULD.

I THINK YOU'RE IN HERE AS A PANELIST, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN.

>> HE SHOULD BE AT THE BOTTOM THERE.

>> YEAH.

>> CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN?

>> YES.

>> YES WE CAN [INAUDIBLE]

>> GREAT. JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES WITH YOU ALL.

WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE DEVELOPING IN GARLAND.

REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP THAT WILL AND HIS STAFF HAS DONE IN GETTING US TO THE POINT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR

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THE PAST SIX MONTHS IN PUTTING TOGETHER THIS DETAILED PLAN.

JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF PRICE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE HEADQUARTERED HERE IN DALLAS FOR A DEVELOPER CLASS-A MARKET RATE APARTMENT PROJECTS.

WE DEVELOP IN DALLAS/FORT WORTH, HOUSTON, DENVER NASHVILLE, AND KANSAS CITY.

WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED SOME PROJECTS HERE IN FRISCO AND FLOWER MOUND LOCALLY.

OUR PRIMARY COMPANY INVESTOR OWNS OVER 15,000 APARTMENTS ACROSS THE US.

THE PRINCIPALS OF THE COMPANY HAVE DEVELOPED AND ACQUIRED OVER A BILLION DOLLARS OF REAL ESTATE.

ALL WE DO IS MOSTLY DEPARTMENTS.

WE DO LOW DENSITY, GARDEN STYLE COMMUNITIES.

WE DO HIGH-DENSITY APARTMENTS AS WELL, BUT ALSO SOME MIXED-USE PROJECTS.

THIS NEXT SLIDE, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF OUR PROJECT IN FRISCO THAT WE DID.

IT'S CALLED THE EDISON FRISCO.

WE DEVELOPED THAT BACK IN 2018.

IT WAS A 257-UNIT PROJECT.

THEN, THIS NEXT SLIDE, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WE DID BACK IN 2013 IN FLOWER MOUND CALLED PARK CENTRAL.

THAT WAS ABOUT 307 UNITS.

THEN THIS SLIDE, THIS IS AN AERIAL RENDERING OF THE PROJECT.

THIS WOULD BE LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE WEST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY DREW US TO THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE WAS THE 12-ACRE LAKE BEHIND THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF, HAVE THE TRAIL CONNECTION, AND THEN HAVE OUR VILLAGE GREEN AREA THAT WILL OVERLOOK THE LAKE AND THEN ROWLETT CREEK, AND THEN OUR TRAIL CONNECTION WILL CONNECT TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL THAT'S ALREADY BUILT ALONG ROWLETT CREEK.

NEXT SIDE, THIS IS A RENDERING OF OUR CLUB HOUSE.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE AS YOU PULL IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF BUNKER HILL.

THEN THIS IS JUST ANOTHER RENDERING OF THE SITE PLAN THAT WILL ALREADY DISCUSSED.

WE'VE GOT THE FIVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, THE CLUB HOUSE, CABANA, VILLAGE GREEN AREA, AND THEN THE DOG PARK AS WELL.

THIS NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER 8, GIVES YOU SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

IT WILL BE 356 UNITS THAT WILL BE ALL BUILT IN ONE PHASE.

OBVIOUSLY, DIFFERENT APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DELIVERED THROUGHOUT TIME, BUT WE WILL PROBABLY DELIVER EVERYTHING OVER 24 MONTHS ONCE WE BREAK GROUND.

THE AVERAGE RENT WILL PROBABLY BE AROUND $1,600 PER MONTH.

WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION ON EARLY 2022 AND OPEN A PROJECT IN THE SPRING OF 2023.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WILL SET THE PROJECT APART FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COMPETITORS IN THE AREA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENCLOSED CORRIDORS, EACH CORRIDOR BUILDING WILL HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

THEN THOSE CORRIDORS WILL BE AIR-CONDITIONED AND HEATED AS WELL.

IT'LL GIVE A RESIDENT OF A VERY URBAN FEEL.

THEN THE NEXT HALF OF THE SLIDE, JUST SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS.

WILL BE A CLUBHOUSE WITH THE BUSINESS CENTER, FITNESS CENTER WITH KID'S ROOM, THE POOL, AND THE CABANA, OUTDOOR GAMING, THE DOG PARK WITH THE DOG WASH STATION, VALET TRASH, THE VILLAGE GREEN WITH FIRE PITS, AN OUTDOOR GRILLING STATIONS, CARPORTS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CONNECTION TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL.

THEN WITHIN THE UNITS THEMSELVES, WE'LL HAVE STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, UNDERMOUNT SINKS, TILE BACKSPLASHES, AND OVERSIZED BATHTUBS, AND WALK-IN SHOWERS.

THIS NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE JUST SOME REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES.

THE PICTURE OF THE APARTMENT PROJECT WITH THE POOL.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A PROJECT THAT WE DID DOWN TO KATY, TEXAS, JUST OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON.

THE PICTURE IN THE LOWER LEFT IS ACTUALLY THE CABANA NEXT TO THE POOL THAT WE HAVE.

THEN THE OTHER TWO PICTURES ARE JUST SOME REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES OF WHAT WE ENVISION, THE FIRE PITS OVER THE LOOKING THE LAKE TO LOOK LIKE, AND THEN THE FESTOON LIGHTING WITH THE OUTDOOR GAMING AREA.

THAT'S IT. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM NOW.

>> ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'LL UNSHARE YOUR SCREEN, PLEASE.

>> LET'S SEE IF CAN DO THAT.

>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] IT SHOULD BE THE SAME GREEN BUTTON DOWN BELOW, I THINK, OR ABOVE.

I AM NOT CERTAIN WHERE [LAUGHTER]

[01:25:06]

>> WELL, I'VE GOT.

>> THERE WE GO. STOP HERE.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER OTT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. KLASING FOR COMING DOWN AND GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING. IT'S VERY NICE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAD MENTIONED WAS ABOUT THE TRAIL CONNECTION.

YOU HAVE LISTED ON THERE A SIX-FOOT TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO OUR REGIONAL TRAIL.

BE OPEN TO HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH SOMETHING LIKE A TEN-FOOT CONNECTION FOR THAT.

>> WE HAD TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT MAKING THAT SIX-FOOT TRAIL AN EIGHT-FOOT TRAIL.

I PROBABLY HAVE TO GET WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO SEE IF IT BE POSSIBLE TO GO UP TO TEN FEET JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT'S ENGINEERED RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THAT WE TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK AND HE SAID EIGHT-FOOT IS DEFINITELY DOABLE.

I DO NOT KNOW IF WE CAN DO 10-FOOT.

>> THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED IS THAT I GO AND WALK THE TRAILS FREQUENTLY AND SIX-FOOT'S VERY NARROW, BUT EIGHT-FOOT IS STILL A LITTLE BIT- FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.

IF TEN-FOOT COULD BE DONE, THAT'LL BE IDEAL, BUT I UNDERSTAND ENGINEERING HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

BUT THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT AND THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING IT TO US TONIGHT.

>> YEAH. ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET A BIKE RIDE LIKE ME AND OTT, YOU [INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN GET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DOES LOOK LIKE A GOOD-LOOKING PROJECT.

I HOPE THAT THE ARCHITECT WILL DO REALLY NICE WORK AND I HOPE THIS TURNS OUT HALF AS NICE AS SOME OF THE WORK I'VE SEEN HIM DO.

>> YES. YEAH. BKB GROUP.

THEY'RE A GREAT FIRM TO WORK WITH.

YEAH, WE'RE VERY VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

>> YOU'RE QUOTING CLASS A PRICES, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT TOO [LAUGHTER] ANYBODY ELSE IN YOUR GROUP CARE TO SAY ANYTHING OR SHOULD GO INTO CITIZENS SPEAKERS, I GUESS.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S GREAT. GO AHEAD.

OKAY. TRACY, I THINK WE HAVE A MASON ORRADRE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.

>> IS HE ONLINE? I DON'T SEE HIS NAME HERE.

THERE IT IS. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> MASON ORRADRE, REALTY CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, 909 LAKE CAROLYN PKY IRVING TEXAS 75039.

I BASICALLY JUST CAME ON TO SUPPORT DREW WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THE MASTER ASSOCIATION THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPING SOME OF THE HUMANITIES THAT YOU GUYS SEE OR SAW ON THAT PAGE THAT SHOWED THE TRAILS THAT WILL HAD.

REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MUCH TO SHARE BEYOND THAT.

WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND WE'RE HERE AS PARTNERS WITH DREW.

>> OKAY. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THAT NOTE I SAW ON THE DETAILED PLAN ABOUT UNDER SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THE VILLAGE GREEN?

>> THIS IS DREW AGAIN. WE WOULD BE SURPRISED.

WE WILL BE DOING THE VILLAGE GREEN.

THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR CONSTRUCTION AND OUR DEVELOPMENT.

THE TRAIL CONNECTION FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY OUT TO THE REGIONAL TRAIL, THAT WILL BE DONE BY REALTY CAPITAL, THEY'RE THE GROUP THAT WE PURCHASED THE LAND FROM AND THEY STILL OWN THE LAKE AND THE LAND BEHIND US.

THEY WILL BE DOING THAT PIECE.

WE WILL BE DOING THE TRAIL FROM BUNKER HILL TO OUR SOUTHEAST CORNERS AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS.

WE WILL BE DOING EVERYTHING ON THE 11.7 ACRES THAT WE'VE PURCHASED.

>> OKAY. GOOD. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, MAKE SURE THERE WEREN'T HOLES THERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, DO WE TRACY?

>> WE DO NOT, SIR. [NOISE]

>> OPEN FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

[OVERLAPPING] ACTUALLY COMING FROM DALTON, YOU'RE UNMUTED. GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE PART A AND B, INCLUDING THE DETAILED PLAN, ADJUSTING THE TRAIL SIZE TO EIGHT FEET FROM THE REQUESTED SIX TO MAKE THE PARKS AND RECREATIONS REQUEST.

[01:30:07]

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.

I SEE THAT FIRST, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

A COUPLE OF YOU'RE BEHIND IT. THAT WAS A CAT TAIL WAGGING THAT I SAW AT THE START.

[LAUGHTER] MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE ITEMS FOR C AND FOR D, WHICH IS THESE DEEP AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DETAIL PLAN WITH PROVISIONING THAT AN EIGHT-FOOT TRAIL WALKS BE PUT IN.

ANY DISCUSSION IN THE MOTION?

>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

WELCOME TO GARLAND, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.

>> THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

I HAVE A NOTE HERE, BUT I THINK WE ARE NOW MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

UNTIL OUR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.