[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE WORK SESSION OF THE PLAN COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 15TH, IT IS 15TH.
WELCOME TO OUR SPECIAL WEDNESDAY EDITION.
FIRST, LET ME ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE MINUTES.
OK, WE'RE ON TO THE ZONING CASES.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN A SUBDIVISION WITH TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE.
THIS IS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, FIVE USES, AN ALLEY WAIVER AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION, THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY FORTY ONE POINT SEVENTY NINE ACRES.
SINCE THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, THE RED STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND IT DOES BORDER THE CITY OF SACHSE.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND IT IS ZONED FOR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ACROSS BUNKER HILL ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF SACHSE.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 15 40 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 16-06, WHICH IS A PHASE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THERE IS ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS EXISTING AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST ARE ZONED FOR AGRICULTURAL AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE INVASION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
THIS SORRY, THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE INVASION GARLAND PLAN AND THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR DENSITY OF FOUR AND SEVEN POINT EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED SIX TO 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
ADDITIONALLY, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THIS SITE WILL REMAIN WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
HOWEVER, THE USABLE OPEN SPACE WILL BE LANDSCAPED WITH PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS, TRAILS AND OTHER AMENITIES.
AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM BUNKER HILL.
THE TOP RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF SACHSE.
AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SO THIS CASE WAS POSTPONED FROM THE AUGUST 16TH MEETING, AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED ON AUGUST 16TH, AND IT DOES SHOW ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SINGLE FAMILY LOTS 11 HOA LOTS, MINIMUM LOT SIZES, FORTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET AND NO ALLEYS WERE PROVIDED IN THIS PLAN.
AND MOST OF THE OPEN SPACE WAS LOCATED SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, KIND OF CONCENTRATED IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
AND SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT HAS FOLLOWED SOME OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE FOUND IN RIVER PLACE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS FURTHER WEST OF THIS SITE ALONG BEN DAVIS.
AND THE NEW SITE PLAN SHOWS ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 17 HOA LOTS.
THERE WILL BE THREE TYPES OF LOT SIZE LOT A, B AND C LOT A SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR GREATER, AND THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF TWENTY ONE LOTS.
LOT B IS FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OR GREATER.
THERE'LL BE A TOTAL OF SEVENTY FIVE LOTS AND LOTS C, WHICH IS THE SMALLEST LOT SIZE IS FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR GREATER.
IT WILL BE A TOTAL OF FIFTY THREE LOTS AND LOTS C, WHICH IS KIND OF POINTING WITH THE CURSOR IN THIS AREA, WHICH WILL BE ALL ALLEY LOADED LOTS AND LOT A'S AND B'S ARE KIND OF DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE ALSO CENTRALIZING SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME
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AMENITIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND THE WORKOUT STATION, A SHADED STRUCTURE AND SOME BENCHES, WHICH IS ALL HERE.THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING 90 LOTS WITHOUT ALLEYS AND FIFTY NINE LOTS WITH ALLEYS AND THE ALLEY LOTS ARE HERE AND THERE WILL BE TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM BUNKER HILL ROAD.
HERE IS THE OPEN SPACE LAYOUT, WHICH JUST GIVES YOU A BETTER VISUAL OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S PROVIDED AND THE POND AND 40 PERCENT OF THE LAND IS UNDEVELOPABLE DUE TO THE FLOOD PLAIN AND ELEVEN POINT TWO PERCENT OF THE NET SITE AREA WILL BE USED AS USABLE OPEN SPACE FOR PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS AND TRAILS.
SAYS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS, PER THE CDC.
THE RED LINE ALONG BUNKER HILL SHOWS THE MASONRY WALL THAT'S REQUIRED ALONG WITH THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE VEGETATION AND THE PROPER THE PROPER LINE TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.
THE GREEN LINE IS THE SIX FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
THE ELEVATION OF THE SCREENING WALL, THE SIGN AND THE SHADED STRUCTURE, THE SCIENTISTS COMPLY WITH THE THE GDC STANDARD.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, WORKOUT STATION, TRASH RECEPTACLE, DOG WASTE BENCH.
SINCE THE TRAIL PLAN, THE GREEN LINE RIGHT DOWN HERE SHOWS THE CITY'S REGIONAL TRAIL, AND THIS TRAIL FROM BUNKER HILL WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED AROUND THE POND AND WILL CONNECT TO THE CITY'S REGIONAL TRAIL.
AND THIS ORANGE LINE IS THE EASEMENT THAT'S PROVIDED FOR FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL .
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SAMPLE ELEVATIONS.
THE LEFT SIDE IS THE FRONT LOADED LOTS AND THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE REAR LOADED LOTS, AND THE FRONT LOADED HOMES WILL HAVE THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK GARAGE FROM THE FRONT BUILDING FACE, AS WELL AS THE 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN THE REAR LOADED HOMES WILL HAVE THE 20 FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE DEVIATIONS AND SOME OF THE STANDARDS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA IN THE GDC REQUIRES FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND PROPOSED IS THREE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES.
LOT A IS SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR GREATER, WHICH COMPLIES.
LOT B IS FORTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OR GREATER, AND LOTS C IS FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, PER THE GDC, IS FIFTY FIVE FEET AND PROPOSED IS FORTY FIVE FOOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FOR FRONT LOADED LOTS, FORTY FOOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH FOUR REAR LOADED LOTS.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE A FIVE FOOT REDUCTION FOR THE MINIMUM LEVELS FOR THE EYEBROW LOTS AND THE CORNER LOTS WILL BE 60 FEET.
THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 50 PERCENT AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES FIFTY FIVE PERCENT.
THE FRONT SET BACK REQUIRED IS 20 FEET AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 15 FOOT FRONT YARD SET BACK FOR ALL FRONT LOADED LOTS.
TEN FOOT FRONT YARD SET BACK FOR ALL REAR LOADED LOTS.
THE REAR SET BACK 20 FOOT ADJACENT TO THE STREET OR 15 FEET FOR STAGGERED AND CURVILINEAR LOTS AND 10 FEET FOR LOTS NOT ADJACENT TO THE STREET.
THEY'RE PROPOSING 10 FOOT MINIMUM REAR YARD SET BACKS FOR ALL FRONT LOADED LOTS.
15 FOOT MINIMUM REAR YARD SET BACKS FOR ALL REAR LOADED LOTS.
AND THE SIDE SET BACKS WILL COMPLY, WHICH IS 15 FEET, FOUR LOTS ADJACENT TO THE STREET AND FIVE FEET FOR INTERIOR LOTS.
AND THEY'RE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE HEIGHT, WHICH IS MAXIMUM OF THIRTY FIVE FEET.
ALLEYS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE GDC, THEY'RE PROPOSING 90 LOTS THAT WILL BE FRONT LOADED WITHOUT ALLEYS.
AND FIFTY NINE WILL BE REAR LOADED WITH ALLEYS.
AND THIS REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT IS DUE TO THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF DEVELOPABLE LAND, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL NARROWNESS OF THE SITE, BOTH IMPACTING THE OVERALL LOT DEPTH.
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STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY FIVE USES AND ALLEY WAIVER AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN OR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS, 17 WERE MAILED OUT AND WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST FOUR OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST AND RECEIVED A TOTAL OF FIVE RESPONSES.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
LET ME GET BACK TO PROPER SCREEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
ACTUALLY HIT YOUR REQUEST TO SPEAK, LET'S WORK ON THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THE RTS IS HUH? YES.
WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE OPEN SPACE DRAWING THAT THAT YOU HAD? THAT ONE, THAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S GOING, YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT BLUE AREA THAT'S IN FLOOD PLAIN.
YES, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE POND.
OK, SO IF IT'S A POND, WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT HOA OR THE CITY OR WHAT, WHOM? THERE, THIS IS DESIGNATED AS AN HOA LOT, BELIEVE THERE IS ALSO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S IN THE WORKS AND THERE ARE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO TAKE CHARGE? YES, SIR, THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT IS STILL IN THE WORKS AND WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MAINTENANCE AND WHO TAKES CARE OF WHAT.
BUT THE VISION IS DEFINITELY TO HAVE IT AMENITIZED TRAILS AROUND THE POND.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO SIT THERE AND BE AN OPEN FIELD, I MEAN, YOU TALK..
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THERE MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO RESOLVE AND GET GOING, EVEN AFTER ALL THESE HOUSES ARE BUILT.
SURE, WELL, THAT DEFINITELY THE INTENT IS TO MAKE THAT A NICE AMENITY AND HAVE THE REGIONAL TRAIL GO THROUGH THERE, AND SO AS FAR AS YES, YES, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING BOTH PLANS BECAUSE THEY'VE COME A LONG WAY IN A MONTH, THEY REALLY HAVE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF HARD WORK PUT INTO THAT.
AND LET ME SEE AND ON THAT REAR CONDITION.
I KNOW IT'S IN THE GDC THAT THE GARAGE DOORS WOULD BE 20 FOOT AWAY FROM AN ALLEY, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD A CONDITION IN THE PD JUST SO IT'S CLEAR FOR ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY ONLY BUILD HALF OF THEM, SOMEONE ELSE MAY COME IN AND THEY MAY THINK THEY CAN BUILD GARAGES TO 15 FEET, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MISSED EASILY.
AND I GUESS THIS IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS TO WHO'S GOING TO DO THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE THEIR PROPERTY AND AND BEHIND.
OK, THAT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I SEE IS THAT BLOCK D, WHICH IS JUST AS FAR AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN IS JUST TO THE WEST OR JUST ABOVE THE OPEN AREA.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY COULD PUT AN ALLEY DOWN THERE, TOO AND CREATE REAR ENTRIES.
AND IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE, I'LL ASK HIM TO ADDRESS THAT POSSIBILITY.
YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE 15 FEET, MAYBE OUT OF THE OPEN SPACE OR LOTS OR A COUPLE OF FEET SHORTER AND SOME SPACE OUT OF THE OPEN AREA THERE.
AND I DID NOTICE THEY DON'T WANT ANY LANDSCAPING IN THE OPEN AREA.
AND I GUESS THAT SO KIDS CAN RUN AROUND WITHOUT BANGING INTO TREES.
NOT THAT I EVER DID THAT WHEN I WAS A KID.
IT WOULD EXPLAIN A LOT OF THINGS, BUT, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ANYBODY ELSE? OK, NOTHING SHOWING UP, AND REQUEST TO SPEAK, COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
HOW MANY VEHICLES CAN FIT IN THE DRIVEWAYS OF BOTH THE REAR AND FRONT LOADING ... THE ENCLOSED OR THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF? THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF.
I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE FOR TWO.
TWO VEHICLES, SO WHERE ARE PEOPLE PARKING WHEN THEY CAN'T PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THEY EACH HAVE LIKE FIVE CARS PER HOUSEHOLD? WELL, THEY DO HAVE THE ENCLOSED GARAGE SPACE, WHICH IS TWO FOR TWO SPACES AND TWO FOR THE IF THEY WANT TO PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN ON THE STREET, THEY MIGHT HAVE, THEY CAN.
SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A LOT SIZE.
IS THERE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THE HOME SIZE WILL BE ON THOSE LOTS? BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MIGHT HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
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OK, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.ALWAYS IS, DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, AT LEAST WE HAVE FRONT ENTRY LOTS, I MEAN, REAR ENTRY LOTS, IT'LL BE MORE STREET SPACE.
A LOT OF THESE ARE JUST FRONT ENTRY ONLY AND YOU GOT ABOUT 10 FEET BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS AND THEN IT'S REALLY A MESS.
WE RAN ACROSS ONE OF THOSE, I THINK LAST YEAR THAT OR YEAR BEFORE THAT WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND ON.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z TWENTY THIRTY ONE, SORRY.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE AND A REPAIR USE, SO THE APPROVAL OF ONE, A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR A 0.3422 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE.
AND THREE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK AND BUS REPAIR USE ON THE PROPERTY, ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE AND REPAIR USE ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION, THE ACREAGE IS FOUR POINT ELEVEN ACRES, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS FOREST LANE AND EASY STREET.
THE TEAL IS THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE RED IS THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUP REQUEST.
WITHIN THIS AREA THERE IS A IT'S MAINLY INDUSTRIAL, WHICH CONSISTS OF PARKING COMPANY DISTRIBUTION OPERATIONS ON ALSO A SHEET METAL COMPANY.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH CONSISTS OF A CAR LOTS AND THEN ALSO A BEAUTY SUPPLY CENTER AND AUTO PARTS STORES AND ENTIRE SHOP.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT RECOMMENDS INDUSTRY FOR THIS SITE, AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM FOREST LANE, THE CAR SALES, THIS IS NORTH OF FOREST LANE.
THIS IS THE RACE TRACK TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY AND A METAL COMPANY TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY ALONG FOREST LANE.
EARLIER, I MENTIONED THAT A ZONING CHANGE FOR A COMMUNITY RETAIL IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS USE, WHICH IS SHOWN RIGHT HERE IN THIS CORNER.
AND SO A ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED USE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
THE YELLOW SHOWS THE AREA OF REQUEST.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THIS USE WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM SEVEN A.M.
AND THE OVERALL PROPOSAL AND THE OVERALL SITE MEETS THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING TO EXPAND THE BUILDING OR THE PARKING LOT, THEREFORE LANDSCAPING IS NOT TRIGGERED.
BUT THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A SUP FOR 20 YEARS, AND THERE ARE NO GDC DEVIATIONS
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BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS APPLICATION.STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ONE, A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR A 0.3422 ACRE TRACT OF LAND FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE, AND THREE A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A TRUCK AND BUS REPAIR USE ON THE PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE AND REPAIR USE ON THIS SUBJECT SITE.
HE MAILED OUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
WE RECEIVED ONE NOTIFICATION LETTER WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WAS FOUR, AND THE TOTAL RESPONSE FOR NOTIFICATION LETTERS WAS ONE.
OK, AND THAT IS THE END OF STAFF PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS, IF WE CAN GET THE RTA STUFF TO WORK HERE? OH, OK.
THE MAYOR WAS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM MONDAY REQUEST TO SPEAK AREN'T NECESSARILY SHOWING UP, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU ALL TO CHIME IN, COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
WHAT IS ON THAT AREA IN THE AREA INSIDE THE RED NOW? WHAT IS IT BEING USED FOR? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SOMETHING THERE.
SO INSIDE THE RED IS, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE STORAGE.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE PICTURES, I THOUGHT THE PICTURES SHOWED SOME THINGS HAPPENING INSIDE THAT AREA, SO NOTHING IS THERE NOW, IT'S JUST EMPTY LAND.
WELL, I MAYBE IT'LL HELP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
THAT'S THERE WAS A CASE THAT CAME LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE MAYBE LATE YEAR BEFORE.
IN WHICH SOME OF THIS HAS ALREADY KIND OF TAKEN PLACE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP AND IT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO WE SENT IT BACK AND NOW THEY'RE BACK AGAIN AND THINK MR. GARRETT GOT SOME ADDITIONAL.
AND YES, I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LITTLE COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT BY RED? YES.
I MEAN, LET'S TAKE THAT FROM ME.
I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU ON THE CURSOR HERE.
IF YOU CAN SEE THE MAP RIGHT AROUND THERE, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S JUST IT'S PART OF THEIR PARKING, BUT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THEIR LEASE AREA AND IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL USE, TRUCKS CAN'T BE PARKING IN COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING.
IT'S JUST A MAP CLEANUP, REALLY.
IT'S A REMNANT APPEARS TO BE A REMNANT OF THE ORIGINAL RACETRACK ZONING.
AND I GUESS SOMEHOW THEY DIDN'T NEED THAT LAND AND IT GOT INCLUDED HERE.
BUT THE ZONING MAP IS STILL LEFT IT AS JUST A REMNANT OF CALZONE, SO IT'S REALLY A MAP CLEANUP IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ALL CONSISTENT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, HAVE THE SUPS AS WELL.
SO THERE ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE COMMUNITY RETAIL IN THAT WITHIN THAT ZONE.
IT'S IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AN ODD SHAPE.
SO THEY WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT DIRECT FRONTAGE THAT THAT'D BE PRETTY TOUGH, I THINK.
THANK YOU, KIMBERLY, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
FIRST QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR YOU IS, FOR THE MOST PART, THERE ARE NO DEVIATIONS REQUESTED TO THE CHANGE OF ZONING, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SECOND QUESTION, IS AN UNDERLYING LANDSCAPING THAT IS PRESENT ON THE SITE NOW IS THAT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GDC? JUST CURIOUS.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUPLE OF THINGS.
I NOTICED THAT ONE OF OUR ISSUES BEFORE IS THAT THE WHOLE SITE TO THE EAST OF THE BIG BUILDING AND IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING WERE PARKED WITH TRUCKS AND I DROVE BY AND THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AND ACCORDING TO MR. GUERIN, THE THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
ALTHOUGH I DID NOTICE THAT THAT FRONT IS STILL STRIPED, THEY HAD RE-STRIPED IT FOR TRUCK PARKING AND IT'S STILL STRIVE FOR TRUCK PARKING, SO THERE MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING A TON OF PARKING OUT IN FRONT.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN CONCERNS IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPING.
THEY DID INCLUDE A LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH SEEMS TO BE ADDING LANDSCAPING OR IS THAT FROM A DIFFERENT TIME? BECAUSE IF IT'S FROM A DIFFERENT TIME, WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW ISN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT'S THERE.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FOUR, AND I FORGET THE NAME PLANTS EIGHT FEET ON
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CENTER AND THOSE THINGS GROW UP TO 12 FEET, AND THEY'RE NOT 12 FOOT PLANTS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.OK, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, OK, IN REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPING, BECAUSE THE ONE THAT YOU PROVIDED WITH AS I ZOOMED IN ON IT AND IT HAD SOME EXISTING STUFF CALLED THAT AND SOME NEW PLANTS.
AND SO I THINK WE'LL NEED TO GET THAT CLARIFIED FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND I THINK THAT GOES TO A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT COMMISSIONER JENKINS WAS SPOTTING TO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ALREADY? THANK YOU.
NEXT, WE'RE DOWN THE ROAD AND UP UP A STREET A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE TAKING [INAUDIBLE] TODAY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE OTHER 2 PHASES OF THIS, OR WE JUST GO ON TO ANOTHER? ARE YOU TALKING THE OTHER TWO ISSUES ON IT? IT'S ALL GOES TOGETHER, IT'S A PD AMENDMENT, SUP AND DETAILED PLAN.
THAT'S A LOT OF THESE ARE THREE PARTERS.
YEAH, YOU DIDN'T MAKE OUR LIVES DIFFICULT ENOUGH, SPLITTING THEM TO TWO.
NOW YOU'RE DOING THEM INTO THREE.
OR OR IS THAT MR. ENGLAND THAT WE HAVE TO BLAME? AND MR. HUFFINES IS DOWN THERE OVER THERE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO YEAH, IT'S MR. JOSUE DE LA VEGA.
HE WAS THE PLANNER WHO HAS BEEN HANDLING THIS CASE, BUT IT IS HIS BIRTHDAY, SO WE GAVE HIM THE NIGHT OFF.
SO I'LL HANDLE THIS CASE TONIGHT.
HE HAD ACTUALLY REQUESTED OFF ANYWAY.
SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL BY THE APPLICANT TO OPERATE A DISTILLERY FACILITY FROM AN EXISTING BUILDING.
THE LOCATION IS 406 AND 412 SOUTH BARNES DRIVE, ACREAGE IS 0.84 ACRES.
THE ZONING IS PD 03-47 FOR LIMITED COMMUNITY RETAIL USES, AND THIS IS THE GENERAL CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL COLOR HERE.
IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING FRONT'S ON THE SOUTH BARNES DRIVE, IT'S JUST NORTH OF FOREST LANE.
SURROUNDING THE SITE IS AN ARRAY OF USES REALLY, NORTH OF THE SITE IS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST ACROSS BARNES DRIVES AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE SOUTHWEST IS A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY.
EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS A HOTEL, I BELIEVE ACTUALLY THIS IS A STORAGE FACILITY THAN A HOTEL OR MOTEL ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY ARE SOME AUTOMOTIVE USES AND THEN RETAIL FURTHER SOUTH FRONTING FOREST LANE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS.
THIS PROPOSAL IS IN FAIRLY CLOSE PROXIMITY ACROSS FOREST LANE FROM THE FOREST JUPITER DART STATION.
THE PROPOSAL HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BRINGING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO AN AREA THAT OFFERS DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING FROM SOUTH BARNES DRIVE.
THERE ARE TWO TENANT SPACES, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO OPERATE THE DISTILLERY OUT OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE MAKING SOME INTERIOR CHANGES IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND HERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
HERE'S THE APARTMENTS TO THE WEST.
AND THEN SOME OF THE AREAS TO THE SOUTH.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY AND SOME THERE'S AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP AND SOME ADDITIONAL RETAIL FURTHER SOUTH.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH A AN APPROXIMATELY FIFTEEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING CURRENTLY DIVIDED INTO TWO TENANT SPACES.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO OCCUPY THE ENTIRE BUILDING AND OPERATE A DISTILLERY.
WHILE THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ACTUAL DISTILLING AND FERMENTATION ON SITE, THE FACILITY WOULD PRODUCE LIQUOR, AS I UNDERSTAND WHISKEY, VODKA, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS BY MIXING VARIOUS RAW AND PROCESSED MATERIALS AND DOING BOTTLING AS WELL I BELIEVE.
SO IT STILL FALLS, EVEN THOUGH THE ACTUAL FERMENTATION IS NOT DONE ON SITE, IT STILL FALLS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF BREWERIES, WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY DINING, TASTING, FOOD SERVICE AREAS OR ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AS PART OF THE OPERATION AT THIS TIME.
AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON THIS, BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING
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IS THEY'RE RELOCATING A DISTILLERY FACILITY IN COLORADO SPRINGS TO GARLAND, SO THIS WOULD BE THE NEW, NEW AND RELOCATED FACILITY FOR THIS USE.FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S REALLY MAINTAINING THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS, AS IS.
HERE'S THE EXISTING BUILDING OUTLINED HERE.
HOWEVER, THEY WILL BE ADDING TWO LIQUID STORAGE TANKS TOWARDS THE KIND OF BACK SIDE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE WILL BE A LITTLE EVERGREEN TREE HERE.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A CHAIN-LINK FENCE HERE.
THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ADDING SOME SLATS TO MAKE THAT A BIT MORE OPAQUE AND HELP SCREEN THE STORAGE TANKS, PER THE GDC.
BUT OTHERWISE, THERE ARE NO BUILDING EXPANSIONS PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST.
AS I MENTIONED, TWO OUTDOOR ETHANOL STORAGE TANKS WILL BE PROVIDED AND SCREENED.
OTHERWISE, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY BUILDING EXPANSIONS OR SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
THEREFORE, ADDITIONAL SCREENING OR LANDSCAPING IS NOT REQUIRED.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN AMENDMENT TO PD 03-47 TO ALLOW THIS USE, THE DISTILLERY USED BY SUP THE PD LIST KIND OF SOME SPECIFIC USES.
THIS BREWERIES, WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES LAND USE WAS ACTUALLY ADDED JUST PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO INTO THE GDC, SO IT'S ONLY REALLY BEEN CONTEMPLATED IN THE GDC FOR JUST THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS OR SO.
BUT IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE MATRIX OF THE GDC, WHICH ALLOWS THIS USE BY SUP AND THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, AND THE BASE ZONING FOR THIS PD IS COMMUNITY RETAIL.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING OR REQUESTING THE TIME PERIOD OF THE SUP FOR 15 YEARS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST THAT INCLUDES THE PDA AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO ADD THE LAND USE BY SUP.
THE SUP ITSELF AND THE DETAILED PLAN, IN ADDITION, STAFF SUGGESTS A SHORTER SUP TIME PERIOD, SUCH AS FIVE OR 10 YEARS TO BE CONSIDERED IN ORDER TO REEVALUATE THE USE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH IS WITHIN THE FOREST JUPITER WALNUT CATALYST AREA.
THE WE'VE KIND OF TALKED BEFORE ABOUT BREWERIES, WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES IS KIND OF BEING THERE'S KIND OF A SCALE OF THE MORE INDUSTRIAL ONES IN NATURE VERSUS ONES THAT HAVE MAYBE THE TASTING ROOM, THE BREWPUB KIND OF MORE RETAIL RESTAURANT FEEL TO THEM.
THIS IS A BIT MORE ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE, OF COURSE.
SO MAY MAYBE WORTH REEVALUATING AS WE LOOK AT THIS CATALYST AREA AND POTENTIAL FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ALLOWANCE OF A FUTURE TASTING ROOM OR DINING AREA OPEN TO PATRONS SHOULD THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATIONS, STAFF MAILED OUT FORTY FIVE NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON THIS CASE, AND WE RECEIVED ONLY ONE RESPONSE.
AND THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION AND THAT WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
WITH THAT COMMISSION, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AFTER REQUESTS TO SPEAK IS NOT WORKING.
COMMISSIONER ROSE, IT'S WORKING HERE.
YEAH, WELL, IT'S NOW COMING UP ON MY BOARD WHERE I CAN ACTIVATE YOUR.
SIR, IF THEY WANT TO ADD A TASTING ROOM.
WILL THEY HAVE TO COME BACK? LET ME, I HAD IT IN THE WRONG MODE, I'M SORRY THERE'S MY DEAL.
THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND REQUEST.
RIGHT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A LITTLE FUZZY IF IT WERE NOT IN THE CONDITION.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF THE PLAN COMMISSION AGREES WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT SHOULD BE AS A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION, AND WE WOULD ADD THAT INTO THE SUP CONDITIONS THAT THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
AND THEY WOULD NOW HAVE TO COME BACK.
AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A 15 YEAR.
IS THAT HOW LONG THE LEASE IS, YOU SUPPOSE? I DON'T KNOW.
ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY, SO THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM THAT.
SO IT MAY NOT BE A LEASE SITUATION BUT YES, SIR, 15 YEARS IS THE REQUEST.
AND IT IS AN EMPTY BUILDING NOW, SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF IT.
ALL RIGHTY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LUCHT, AND HERE WE GO.
HOW LONG HAS THAT BUILDING BEEN EMPTY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, IS THERE A NURSE? ISN'T THERE A NURSERY? MAYBE I'M GETTING MY STREETS MIXED UP.
ISN'T THERE A NURSERY RIGHT DOWN THE STREET ON THE SAME SIDE? CHILDREN.
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WITHIN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX? YEAH, IT'S NEXT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUILDING, DRIVING SOUTH DOWN.ISN'T THERE A NEAR A NURSERY FOR THE KIDS IN THAT APARTMENT? MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER STREET, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE IS.
I KNOW A NUMBER OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON THE STREET AND IN THAT AREA.
DON'T THEY HAVE TO BE SO FAR AWAY FROM A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING FOR ALCOHOL? IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A TASTING ROOM? RIGHT, THAT IS FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PUBLIC HOSPITALS AND CHURCHES DON'T BELIEVE THAT REQUIRES THE APPLIES TO DAYCARES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHTY, THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SITE TO A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TOWNHOMES.
THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT TO AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT.
HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.26 ACRES.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR.
AND IT'S LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROWLETT ROAD AND SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.
AND IT HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN, AS WELL AS AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ACROSS ROWLETT ROAD ARE ZONED FOR PD 85-22 FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THESE ARE SOME ZERO LOT LINE PROPERTIES.
SO THEY ARE, THERE IS A VARIATION IN THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA.
PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED FOR PD 99-31 FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, ACROSS SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN AND HAS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROPERTIES FURTHER WEST.
IT'S NOT SHOWN THIS MAP, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S MOBILE HOMES AS WELL AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS PRIMARILY CHARACTERIZED AS LOW DENSITY, AND IT'S BETWEEN ONE TO SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
ALTHOUGH IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY TOWNHOUSE UNITS WILL BE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME, IT IS LIKELY THE DENSITY WILL EXCEED SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
BUT IT CANNOT EXCEED 12 UNITS PER ACRE, PER THE SINGLE FAMILY TOUCH STANDARDS IN THE GDC.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL LOOK AND FEEL OF THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
THIS IS THE TOP LEFT IMAGE IS THE VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ROWLETT ROAD.
THERE ARE TWO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE EITHER DEMOLISHED OR REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
THE PROPERTY OR THE PICTURE TO THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A FORMATION OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE IS NO DETAILED PLAN ATTACHED WITH THIS REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT WILL DESIGN THE STANDARDS PER THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACH STANDARDS IN THE GDC.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE AND ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACH DISTRICT.
AND WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
THERE WAS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THAT WERE MAILED OUT.
WE RECEIVED TWENTY ONE RESPONSES WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST AND TWO OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND WE RECEIVED
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A TOTAL OF TWENTY THREE RESPONSES.BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLANS OR ANYTHING ELSE? CORRECT, THERE IS NO DETAILED PLAN ASSOCIATE TO THIS REQUEST.
THAT WAS QUICK, HUH? AND THIS IS CASE E 21-30.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO RELOCATE AN EXISTING TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER FROM RICHARDSON TO GARLAND, AND THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FEET.
THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR AN ANTENNA COMMERCIAL USE ON A PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION THE OVERALL SUBJECT PROPERTY IS FOUR POINT THIRTY TWO ACRES AND THE LEASE AREA IS ZERO POINT ZERO FIVE SEVEN ACRES.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, THE STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION AND IT DOES BORDER CITY OF RICHARDSON.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR AND THE RED SHADED AREA IS THE LEASE AREA, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ACROSS HOLFORD ROAD ARE A ZONED FOR PD 94-17 AND PD 96-34 FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ACROSS WEST CAMPBELL ROAD ARE ZONED FOR PD 20-17 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND SORRY TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH IS ZONED FOR PD 14-16 AND THERE IS A SENIOR LIVING.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE INVASION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS BUSINESS CENTER.
AND BUSINESS CENTERS TYPICALLY PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES.
HOWEVER, THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE WILL PROVIDE COVERAGE TO THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION FROM HOLFORD ROAD, AND THIS PICTURE DOES SHOW THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE TOWER THAT'S IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
THE TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM WEST CAMPBELL ROAD.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE OVERALL SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM WEST CAMPBELL ROAD AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND THERE IS A PLACE OF WORSHIP ON SITE.
AND HERE ARE SOME OTHER PHOTOS, THE TOP ONE IS THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION, SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE EXISTING LOCATION IN RICHARDSON AND THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO RELOCATE THE TOWER TO GARLAND AND THE SITE.
EXISTING TOWER IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN FEET AND THE PROPOSED IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FEET.
AND THAT'S TO ALLOW FOURTH CARRIER IN THE FUTURE, AND THE OLDER TOWER WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED.
PROVIDED THAT IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL BEFORE, AFTER THE NEW TOWER IS FUNCTIONAL.
AND THE BOTTOM PICTURE IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND THE NEAREST CELL TOWER, WHICH IS THREE THOUSAND SIXTY FEET, AND IT'S LOCATED ALONG CAMPBELL AND NORTH GARLAND.
AND THE GDC REQUIRES A MINIMUM DISTANCE OF FIVE THOUSAND FEET FROM ONE STRUCTURE TO THE OTHER, AND THE NEAREST IS THREE THOUSAND SIXTY.
SO THAT IS A DEVIATION THAT'S REQUESTED.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AND THIS IS A MODIFIED SITE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT RESUBMITTED A REVISED PLAN YESTERDAY AND I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE CHANGES.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE LEASE AREA.
THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE, WHICH IS THE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
THE LEASE AREA IS ZERO POINT ZERO FIVE SEVEN ACRE.
AND THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOOT MONOPOLE TOWER WITH THREE LEASE AREAS WITH THREE CARRIERS AND POTENTIALLY A FOURTH CARRIER IN THE FUTURE.
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AND THE GDC HAS SOME DISTANCE REGULATIONS, PARTICULARLY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINE TO THE EAST IS THREE HUNDRED TEN POINT FOUR AND THE MINIMUM REQUIRED IS THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FEET PER THE CALCULATION, AND TO THE NORTH IS THIRTY FOUR POINT EIGHT FEET.AND THIS IS THE OVERALL SENIOR LIVING, BUT THIS SITE IS VACANT AT THIS TIME.
AND THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING THE ACCESS FROM HOLFORD ROAD, WHICH HAS BEEN REVISED FROM TWENTY FOUR FEET TO 16 FEET OF CONCRETE AND FOUR FEET OF [INAUDIBLE] PAVED ON EACH SIDE.
AND THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE APPROVED THIS DESIGN.
THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING SOME LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE ALONG WITH THE FRONT GATE.
AND HERE'S A SCREENING THAT'S PROVIDED, IT'S A SIX FOOT FENCE CRATE, AND I DO NEED TO CLARIFY THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY BARBED WIRE ON TOP OF THE FENCE CRATE.
SINCE THE ELEVATION OF THE MONOPOLE TOWER, IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOOT, BUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE FEET UP TO THE LIGHTNING ROD.
HERE'S THE DEVIATION SLIDE, THE FIRST ONE IS THE DISTANCE FROM OTHER SUPPORT STRUCTURES.
THE GDC REQUIRES THAT FREESTANDING COMMERCIAL ANTENNAS SUPPORT STRUCTURE MUST BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE THOUSAND SORRY, 5000 FEET FROM ANOTHER STRUCTURE AND PROPOSED IS APPROXIMATELY THREE THOUSAND SIXTY FEET FROM ANOTHER SUPPORT STRUCTURE.
ALTHOUGH THE NEAREST TOWER IS LESS THAN 5000 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION, THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS A CRITICAL COMMUNICATION SITE FOR THIS AREA OF GARLAND AND RICHARDSON, AND THE SECOND DEVIATION IS A DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL STREET.
THE GDC REQUIRES THAT NO COMMERCIAL ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE MAY BE CLOSER TO ANY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, BOUNDARY LINE OR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING PROPERTY LINE THAN A DISTANCE EQUAL TO THREE TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE.
BASED ON THIS RATIO, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOOT TALL COMMERCIAL ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE MUST BE PLACED A MINIMUM OF THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY [INAUDIBLE] FEET FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINE.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE HUNDRED AND TEN POINT FOUR FEET FROM THE EASTERN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT AND THIRTY FOUR POINT EIGHT FEET FROM THE NORTHERN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION WILL PROVIDE COVERAGE TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE VICINITY.
ALTHOUGH THE LAND TO THE NORTH IS KNOWN FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT IS VACANT AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS DEVELOPED WITH SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.
AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE FEET.
THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER LOCATION TO THE NEAREST SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO THE EAST IS APPROXIMATELY THREE HUNDRED TEN POINT FOUR FEET.
THE APPLICANT REQUEST THE SUP TO BE IN EFFECT FOR 30 YEARS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SOUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE.
WHILE THE APPLICATION INCLUDES SETBACK DEVIATIONS, THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS ONE THAT HAS NATURAL VEGETATIVE SCREENING AND SEVERAL SIDES IS SET BACK FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND THE RIGHT OF WAY MORE THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AND WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE UNINTERRUPTED CELLULAR COVERAGE TO THE AREA.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW THE ANTENNA COMMERCIAL ON A PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN FOR THE ANTENNA COMMERCIAL USE SENT OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
TOTAL OF FORTY SEVEN LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT.
WE RECEIVED TWO WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, THAT'S FOR THE REQUEST.
ONE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST.
NINE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AGAINST THE REQUEST, WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 12 RESPONSES, BUT MULTIPLE RESPONSES, WE'VE RECEIVED MULTIPLE RESPONSES FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
SO SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DEVELOP THE LAND TO THE NORTH, WOULD THE PROXIMITY TO THE ANTENNA, PREVENT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA?
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TO? THAT STRIP TO THE NORTH, THAT YOU SAID, ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU MOVE IN NEXT TO AN AIRPORT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING VERSUS THE AIRPORT MOVING NEXT TO YOU.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT, THEY DID CONDUCT A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID WERE IN RESPONSE TO THAT THE NARROWING OF THE DRIVEWAY FROM TWENTY FOUR FEET TO 16 FEET.
THE ADDITION OF THE GATE AND THE EXTRA LANDSCAPING.
OH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I CHIMED IN BEFORE YOU, SEE ADDRESSED WAS THE MATERIAL FOR THE GATE.
CHAIN-LINK GATE IS NOT DESIRED BY THE NEIGHBOR OR SOMETHING MORE OF A WROUGHT IRON OR SOMETHING NICER.
AND IF THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS THAT.
AND YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS SO THAT STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND THE STREET ABOVE IS OWNED BY THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER DID YOU SAY? IT'S PART OF THE SAME PD? OH, OK.
DO WE KNOW WHO OWNS THAT? BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXTRA SPACE THAT THEY POSSIBLY COULD HAVE MOVED IT FURTHER NORTH, AND I'LL GET THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THAT ONE.
AND AND IN THE LETTERS, THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS AND THIS IS MORE FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS.
THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS IN ONE OF THE LETTERS OF WHY NOT PUT THE TOWER IN WITH THE SUBSTATION? WHY NOT PUT IT IN WHERE ONE OF THE THE COMPUTER? YEAH, YEAH, ONE OF THE COMPUTER CENTERS WERE.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE, BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THOSE FOR US.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL ANTENNA LESS THAN 5000 FEET AWAY, BUT I HEARD YOU SAY AS WELL THAT THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO TAKE THIS DOWN ITS OWN OWNED BY THE SAME APPLICANT, OR DID I COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTAND THAT? THE TOWER THAT'S EXISTING JUST NORTH RIGHT HERE THAT'S BEING RELOCATED, THAT WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED ONCE THE NEW TOWER IS FUNCTIONAL, IT IS OWNED BY THE SAME, THIS IS ALL THE SAME? PERFECT, SO THERE BE NO DEVIATION AT THAT POINT.
THEY'LL BE IN CONFORMITY ONCE THE NEW ONE IS COMPLETE, IS MY, I GUESS, UNDERLYING QUESTION.
NO, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT TOWER.
THE UNDERSTANDING THEY'LL BUILD THIS TOWER AND DECOMMISSION THE OTHER.
THEY'VE LOST THEIR LEASE AND THE OTHER, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS DOWN BY THE WATER TANKS, I THINK, ON NORTH GARLAND AVENUE.
AND I THINK STAFF IS GOING TO BE PROPOSING BRINGING FORWARD A REVISION TO THAT ITEM OF THE GDC, THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS WITH TECHNOLOGY CHANGING.
I THINK THERE'S MORE OF A NEED FOR MORE TOWERS CLOSER TOGETHER TO HANDLE THE LOAD IN THE 5G, AND SOME OF THOSE WAVELENGTHS GO LESS OR SOME KIND OF GOBBLEDYGOOK.
THE GUY NEXT TO YOU, MAYBE IT'LL TELL YOU THAT, YES.
YEAH, WE'LL BE ADDING THAT IN THE DEFINITIONS TO THE GDC, GOBBLEDYGOOK.
SO YEAH, IT'S TWO TOWERS SHE WAS REFERENCING.
ONE IS PROBABLY A HUNDRED FEET OR SO AWAY THAT THEY LOST THEIR LEASE ON.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AND I'M CERTAIN THE APPLICANT WILL ADDRESS IT, BUT THEN THE OTHER ONE'S JUST A DEVIATION, NO MATTER WHAT.
OK, THAT WAS THE LAST ZONING ITEM FOR PRESENTATION.
AFTER THAT WE GOT THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEM, THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, WHICH WE HAVE EACH YEAR IN SEPTEMBER.
SO GENERAL REQUEST NOMINATIONS AND WE WILL VOTE ON IT.
WE'LL, WE HAVE TO DO., WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE MEETING, YEAH IT'S PART OF THE MEETING.
YEAH, ALRIGHTY, I THINK THAT WAS IT.
THEN WE WILL TAKE A RECESS FOR DINNER AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
[Invocation & Pledge of Allegiance]
GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO OUR SPECIAL WEDNESDAY EDITION OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.TODAY'S SEPTEMBER 15TH AND TYPICALLY WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE.
YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US IF YOU DO OR DO NOT IN NO WAY AFFECTS A DECISION SO THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS THEREOF? ALL RIGHT.
TONIGHT'S PRAYER PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
FATHER GOD, WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE SO THAT WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND AND SO THAT WE CAN PASS IT ON TO THE CITY
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COUNCIL.WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE AND FIRE, TEACHERS AND SO ON, SO FORTH, AND WE JUST ASK ALL THIS AND YOUR HOLY NAME.
WELL, AGAIN, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME.
AND YES, WE'RE MEETING ON A WEDNESDAY AND ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT THREE MORE TIMES THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WILL BE MEETING ON EITHER WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY INSTEAD OF MONDAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WATCH YOUR TV GUIDE AND WE'RE NON MISS SHOW, YOU CAN'T MISS THIS, OK.
ALREADY, ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO COME UP TO SPEAK IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MICROPHONE, WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS.
WE GIVE APPLICANTS THREE MINUTES, 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS WE ALLOW THREE.
BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW YOU MORE.
ALSO, IN TERMS OF SPEAKING, IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP AND YOU CARE TO SPEAK, WE HAVE SOME KIOSKS OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP.
PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY WILL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION AND SHOULD SHOW UP IN MY SCREEN AND WE'LL CALL YOU TO SPEAK.
NOW THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW SYSTEM, WE'RE NEW AT IT, SO THERE MAY BE SOME GLITCHES, BECAUSE I'M CONTROLLING THE SCREEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
SO ALL RIGHT, FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS CONSENT AGENDA.
[Consent Agenda]
THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS IN THIS CASE, ONE ITEM THAT THE COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IT ON ONE MOTION.I WILL READ IT OUT AND ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT THE ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW.
IF YOU WANT AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW.
ITEM 1A ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR AUGUST 30TH., 2021 IT'S THE ONLY ITEM, SO I'M GUESSING NOBODY IS IN A BIG HURRY TO PULL THAT FROM THE AGENDA.
SO CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WHOEVER PUSHED THE FIRST PUNCH IN OR CHIME IN COMMISSIONER DALTON OR COMMISSIONER LUCHT, DO YOU BOTH HAVE LIVE MICS? MR. CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
OUR FIRST ZONING CASE TONIGHT IS A TWO PARTER COMPRISED OF A DETAILED PLAN
[Items 2A & 2B]
AND A ZONING REQUEST, SO ITEM TWO A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ION DESIGN GROUP REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY FIVE USES AN ALLEY WAIVER AND AN ALLEY WAIVER.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4698 AND 4701 BUNKER HILL.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR AUGUST 16TH MEETING ITEM 2 B, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF IRON DESIGN GROUP REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED AT 4698 AND 4701 BUNKER HILL ROAD, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS ARE PROBABLY HERE EITHER MR. KLEIN OR MS. COOPER.
WHOEVER WANTS TO COME ON DOWN AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
CONNIE COOPER, ADDRESS 3839 MCKINNEY AVENUE, SUITE 155-235 DALLAS, TEXAS 75204.
AM I TOO LOUD? NO, I JUST DON'T GET ANY CLOSER, RIGHT? OK, YEAH.
I PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE THAT I DON'T NOT.
WELL, THIS PROJECT HAS CERTAINLY TAKEN A VILLAGE ON BEHALF OF LIBERTY BANKERS.
WE HAVE HEAD OF DEVELOPMENT DAVE WILCOX RIGHT HERE IN THE BLUE AND THE OWNER OF ION
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DESIGN ENGINEERING FIRM BRIAN KLEIN.BUT WHAT I, WHO WE DON'T HAVE HERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE ON YOUR STAFF.
IN ADDITION TO THE PLANNING STAFF HERE THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS.
ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, OBVIOUSLY [INAUDIBLE] THIS HAS REALLY BEEN AND ALSO THE ADMINISTRATION WITH YOUR CITY MANAGER, YOU'RE ONE OF YOUR CITY ATTORNEYS AND YOUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JED.
SO WE HAVE GREATLY APPRECIATED IT.
SOMETIMES SOME THINGS ARE WORTH WAITING FOR.
AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE WE FEEL.
WE'RE GLAD WE'RE AT THIS STAGE AND VERY PLEASED.
THE PARK SIDE IS, AS NVIDIA HAS SAID IN HER REPORT, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ENVISION GARLAND, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
IT IMPLEMENTS YOUR VITAL NEIGHBORHOODS BUILDING BLOCK WITH CREATING NEIGHBORHOOD COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.
HAVING DENSITIES FROM SIX TO 12 HOURS HAS EIGHT UNITS AN ACRE.
IT IMPLEMENTS YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES AND CONVERTS FLOODPLAIN.
YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, KNOW BETTER THAN US THAT GARLAND HAS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF DEVELOPABLE LAND, AND ONE OF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES IS TO CONVERT FLOODPLAIN INTO USABLE DEVELOPMENT LAND.
IT IS IN THE 190 CATALYST AREA.
IT IMPLEMENTS YOUR HOUSING POLICIES, WHICH FOCUSES INVESTMENTS IN THE CATALYST AREAS WITH MORE COMPACT HOUSING.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY FOR YOUR PARKS AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACES BY EXTENDING THE PUBLIC TRAIL NETWORK.
REAL BRIEFLY, AS NIA HAS SAID, IT'S A LITTLE OVER 40 ACRES.
TWENTY FIVE OF THEM ARE DEVELOPABLE AND NOW THIS IS TWENTY FIVE, AFTER YOU RECLAIM, ABOUT 90 PERCENT OF THE LAND AREA IS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THERE WILL REMAIN AFTER RECLAMATION, ABOUT 16 ACRES THAT WILL REMAIN 40 PERCENT OF THE SITE WITHIN DEVELOPABLE IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND AS IT WAS MENTIONED TODAY, WE ENVISIONED THAT IN THE BLUE AREA IS TO BE AN AREA THAT WILL BE A MAJOR AMENITY FOR NOT ONLY PARK SIDE'S OWNERS AND RESIDENTS, BUT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
ITS NET DEVELOPMENT, NET DENSITY, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT 18 PERCENT, 18 ACRES, WHICH TAKES OUT THE STREETS AND WHAT'S LEFT WITH THE OPEN SPACE USABLE OPEN SPACE IN YOUR LOTS, WHICH IS A NET DENSITY OF EIGHT UNITS, A HOME, A MIX OF HOME SIZES WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED AND AS WAS MENTIONED, 40 PERCENT IS ALLEY LOADED.
AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR AUGUST AND WE HEARD THAT THIS WASN'T QUITE WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
WELL, AS NIBIA HAS COVERED, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
WE HAVE PULLED THE WHAT WE CALL THE CENTRAL GREEN FROM THE EDGE OF THE FLOODPLAIN INTO THE HEART.
WE'VE TAKEN AND NOW CONVERTED 40 PERCENT OF THE DEVELOPABLE SITES INTO ALLEY-LOADED, SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO WHAT WE STARTED OUT WITH.
WE HOPE YOU ALL THINK IT WORKS, TOO.
80 PERCENT WILL BE BRICK, STONE, CAST, STONE OR STUCCO.
MORE THAN LIKELY MORE THAN 80 PERCENT.
ROOF DESIGN THIS IS AN EIGHT TO 12 PITCH, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, GIVES EVEN A SMALL HOME THAT NICE LOOK.
THE ENHANCED DRIVEWAY PAVEMENT.
THIS IS FOR THE FRONT LOADED THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS THE FRONT LOADERS WILL BE EITHER STAMPED CONCRETE INTEGRAL COLORED CONCRETE EXPOSED TO AGGREGATE OR SALT FINISHED CONCRETE.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SALT FINISH CONCRETE, YOU PUT THE LARGE PIECES OF SALT IN THERE.
THEN ONCE THE CONCRETE CURES, THEN THAT COMES OUT AND YOU HAVE THAT NICE SORT OF PEBBLE LOOK WITHOUT THE PEBBLES.
WE HAVE AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CENTER SYSTEM.
THE STANDARD IS FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS.
WE'VE GOT FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS.
THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG BUNKER HILL, WHICH IS AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALK SYSTEM AND THE CONNECTION OF AN EIGHT FOOT CONNECTION TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE TYPE OF ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE TYPES OF FRONT LOADING AND REAR LOADED HOMES WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE LANDSCAPE AMENITIES.
AND YES, THERE ARE A FEW TREES MISSING IN THE CENTRAL PARK, AND WE DEFINITELY I THINK THAT LAYER GOT TURNED OFF WITH THAT.
THERE WILL BE THAT LANDSCAPED IN THAT AREA, BUT IT SHOWS YOU AN IDEA.
AND THE PURPLE, THIS SIDEWALK NETWORK, THE TRAIL NETWORK, THE GREEN TRAIL IS
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AN EXISTING TRAIL AND BECAUSE RECLAMATION, THAT TRAIL WILL NEED TO BE REBUILT.AND LET ME JUST SHOW YOU IN THAT SLIDE WHAT AS YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINE THAT GOES STRAIGHT FROM THE TRAIL FROM BUNKER HILL ROADS DIRECTLY, LET'S CALL IT SOUTH.
IT WILL NEED TO BE REBUILT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A RECLAMATION POND.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH REALTY CAPITAL.
IN FACT, THIS HAS BEEN A REAL GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS IN NOT ONLY DEALING WITH THE RECLAMATION OF THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT ALSO HOW WE GET SANITARY SEWER BECAUSE NONE OF THIS AREA HAS SANITARY SEWER EXCEPT WHERE YOUR EXISTING FIREWHEEL APARTMENTS ARE LOCATED.
SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND IT WILL CONTINUE, AS WILL INDICATED.
I BELIEVE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THERE YOU ARE, YOU MOVED, SORRY.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF HOW THAT OPEN SPACE WILL BE UTILIZED AND DEVELOPED AND ENHANCED.
AND SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA.
THIS IS THE GREEN ON THAT IS YOUR EXISTING TRAIL.
JUST, YOU MAY ASK, YOU MAY NOT SEE WHERE THE POND, THERE'S PROBABLY A CORNER, BUT WHERE THE POND COMES ALONG AND GOES AROUND, WHERE THE TRAIL GOES AROUND THE POND, THERE'S A SPILLWAY.
AND SO IT WILL NOT BE SPILLING OVER THE TRAIL.
IT WILL BE UNDERNEATH IN THE CULVERTS.
SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THE TRAIL AS WE NEED TO DRAIN ONE WATER GOES FROM ONE POND TO THE NEXT.
SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK SO, COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING IS SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND I MEAN, PARKING HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE IN GARLAND LATELY.
YOU'RE SEEING LIKE FIVE CARS PER HOUSEHOLD NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THIS PLAN WILL PROVIDE.
ON SITE IS GOING TO BE AS ALREADY MENTIONED.
WE WILL HAVE FOUR PLACES FOR CARS TO PARK.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS NOT ONLY IN THE FRONT LOADED PRODUCT, BUT THE REAR LOADED WILL HAVE A MINIMUM OF 20 FOOT DRIVEWAY, SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PARK TWO CARS IN THE BACK TWO.
BUT THE LOTS ARE ON THE FRONT LOADED THE LOTS OF 45 FEET, EXCEPT ON CORNERS THAT GET A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
A YOUR STANDARD FOR PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH IS BASICALLY ON STREET PARKING, IS A STANDARD PARKING SPACE, IS 22 TO A DRIVEWAY, IS TYPICALLY 16 TO 18 FEET OF WIDTH.
SO IF YOU TAKE FORTY FIVE FOOT WIDTH LOT, TAKE THE EIGHT 16 TO 18 FROM IT, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE, EVEN IF YOU TOOK 20, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE MORE THAN ADEQUATE, YOU KNOW, SPACE TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON STREET WITHOUT BEING IN SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY.
ADDED TO THAT, THE REAR LOADED WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPEDIMENT TO DRIVEWAYS.
SO THE THE ENTIRE LENGTH AND QUITE A BIT OF THE STREET AREA IS REAR LOADED, SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY IMPEDIMENT FOR ON STREET PARKING FOR THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER OTT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING IN THE PRE MEETING WAS ABOUT REAR PARKING ON THE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOMES THAT HAVE FRONT PARKING ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE OF THIS PROJECT.
WHAT CONSIDERATION DID YOU HAVE FOR? DID YOU CONSIDER PUTTING REAR PARKING FOR THOSE? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLOCK D? YES.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE.
BLOCK D, YOU CAN SEE ME POINT, RIGHT? THERE IS A POINTER SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE YOUR CURSOR.
WE DID LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE WERE REDESIGNING THE LAYOUT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR AN ALLEY IS 20 FEET.
SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO WOULD BE TAKE 20 FEET OF AREA HERE FOR THE ALLEY.
SO WHAT THAT DOES IS KICKS THESE LOTS FURTHER SOUTH AND WE'D LOSE ABOUT 18 PERCENT OF OUR CENTRAL OPEN SPACE.
AND WE FELT WE'D RATHER HAVE FRONT LOADED LOTS THAN 18 PERCENT LESS GREEN SPACE.
SO THAT WAS WHY THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.
AND TRUST ME, WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL TYPES OF LAYOUTS FOR THIS.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH PROCESS.
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BUT THAT WAS WHY WE DID NOT RELOAD THOSE.YES ARE THESE LOTS BIG ENOUGH TO PUT IN CIRCULAR DRIVES IN THE FRONT? NO, THEY'RE FORTY FIVE FEET.
YOU WOULD END UP, HERE'S ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES, TOO, IS THE MORE PAVING YOU PUT IN, THE MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THE MORE RUNOFF.
AND SO WE RECOGNIZE YOU NEED 20 FEET TO PARK YOUR CARS IN, BUT A 40 FOOT WIDE PRODUCT PUTTING A CIRCULAR DRIVE WITH A 15 FOOT FRONT SETBACK.
YOU'D HAVE MOSTLY CONCRETE FRONT YARD.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO SAY I SEE THAT YOU GUYS CAME A LONG WAY, AND THE MORE YOU TALKED, I DIDN'T REALIZE 60 PERCENT OF THIS WAS RECLAIMED.
ENGINEERING NIGHTMARE? YEAH, EVERY BIT OF IT.
WELL, I GUESS YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
YES, AND THAT'S A STRUGGLE, TOO, WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE THE LOT PENCIL OUT, TOO.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE GOVERNMENT STUFF AND EVERYTHING FOR THE FLOODPLAIN, OR STILL WORKING? WELL, WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS TO FILE THE [INAUDIBLE].
IT HAS NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE CASE, BUT DO YOU HAVE A BUILDER SELECTED ALREADY? I DON'T KNOW.
THESE MASKS ARE GREAT, AREN'T THEY? [CHUCKLING] WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT WANT TO BE HERE, WANT TO BE IN GARLAND WANT TO BE IN THE FIREWHEEL AREA AND ENJOY WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING HERE.
AND WE DID HEAR DURING THE PRAYER MEETING ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NINETEEN HUNDRED TO TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RANGE OF THE HOMES AND THE PRICE RANGE? WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND OF COURSE, PRICE CHANGES THIS WEEK, DOESN'T IT? AS I SAID, BETWEEN NINETEEN TO TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T EXCEED THE LOT COVERAGE.
BUT AND THE PRICE RANGE IS PROBABLY IN THE HIGH 2S TO THE MID FIVE HUNDREDS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND MR. KLEIN, YOU'RE WITH HIM.
OK, AND GREG GUERIN? DIFFERENT CASE.
LET ME ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? DO WE HAVE ANY ZOOM PEOPLE ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DON'T.
COMMISSIONERS OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE.
ONE COMMENT WAS MADE AT GARLAND'S REACHING BUILD OUT, AND THAT IS VERY, VERY TRUE, AND WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE BRINGING MORE AND MORE HOMES INTO GARLAND.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THE LAND IN THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
WELL THOUGHT OUT AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE ASSET FOR NORTH GARLAND.
AND IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT, PLEASE DO.
ANYBODY, OH, YOU WITHDREW YOUR REQUEST TO SPEAK.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE BOTH PART A AND B OF THE APPLICATION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE THE CHANGE IN ZONING AND THE DETAIL PLAN.
OK, SECOND BY, I SAW YOUR LIGHT ON COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
WHEN WE GET INTO THE MOTION, I TOLD YOU WE'RE WORKING WITH NEW DEAL HERE, FOLKS, JUST TO SHOUT OUT THEN WHEN WE GET INTO MOTION, BECAUSE THEN IT GOES INTO OPEN DISCUSSION MODE.
BUT I HEARD THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER OTT.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE ITEMS 2A AND 2B AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT.
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AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.I KNOW IT WAS A TOUGH ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT AN EASY SITE.
[Items 2C - 2E]
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A THREE PARTER HERE, FOLKS.CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ALLSTATE TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CHANGE IN ZONING OF A THREE POINT FOUR TWO TWO ACRE PORTION OF LAND FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL TO INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4030 AND 4040 FOREST LANE ITEM 2D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ALLSTATE TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR LLC, REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW TRUCK BUS REPAIR AND A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE.
THIS IS ALSO 4030 AND 4040 FOREST LANE.
ITEM 2E CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF ALLSTATE TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A TRUCK, BUS REPAIR AND TRUCK BUS STORAGE AGAIN 4030 AND 4044 FOREST LANE.
AND THIS IS A THREE PARTER, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPLIT THEM OUT THAT'S FINE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BUT, IF WE CAN, WE'LL TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER AND PRESENTER HUDSON? JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, REALLY? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I DID HAVE ONE FROM THE PREVIOUS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH OUR PACKET DID SHOW NEW...
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LANDSCAPING, SO I HAD TO LOOK IT UP.
NELLIE STEPHENS HOLLIES IT SHOWED GROUPS OF FOUR AND EIGHT FEET ON CENTER BETWEEN EXISTING.
TREES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SHOWN AS EXISTING.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WERE PLANNING ON DOING? NO, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OVERSPILL FROM KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN AROUND THIS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE IN THE SPECIFIC USE OF IT WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
IT MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME LANDSCAPING, BUT THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING.
WHAT IS THERE IS THERE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS SPILLED OVER INTO THAT SITE PLAN.
BUT NOW WITH THE LANDSCAPING THERE THE TREES ON THE FOREST LANE NOW AND THEN THE SHRUBBERY AND THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE HEDGES THAT ARE WITHIN THE PROPERTY ITSELF? I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE BECAUSE THOSE THINGS GROW TO BE ABOUT 12 FEET TALL AND WOULD HAVE MADE A NICE SCREEN ALONG THERE.
WELL, WE BEAUTIFIED FOREST LANE BY MOVING ALL [INAUDIBLE] TRUCKS ARE GONE.
I WILL RELAY IT TO THE OWNER, THOUGH.
CAN ASK MR. GUERIN, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS PLAN WAS FROM A PREVIOUS ZONING CASE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ENFORCED NOW? OR I'LL JUST ASK YOU ALL TO INVESTIGATE THAT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DOCUMENT THAT IF THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN IS A PART OF THIS DETAILED PLAN, IN WHICH CASE IT MIGHT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NONE.
AND SO FAR, THIS IS THE ONLY SPEAKER I HAVE ON THIS ITEM, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHICH TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS MOTION? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. MR. CHAIRMAN, SHE DIDN'T GIVE US A NAME AND OH YEAH, WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
THAT'S WHY I KEEP THESE PEOPLE HERE.
PERSONALLY ADDRESS 101 NORTH BROOKSIDE DALLAS 75214.
SOMEBODY ALWAYS REMINDS ME IT'S ALWAYS THE LAST THING ON MY MIND.
SO AGAIN, THE FLOOR IS OPEN TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.
JUST PUNCH YOUR SPEAK BUTTON AND CHIME IN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DISTRICT [INAUDIBLE].
LET ME GET YOUR MIKE GOING THERE.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 2C, 2D AND 2E AS PRESENTED AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I SEE A SECOND COMING BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO PUNCH THE RIGHT BUTTON THERE? NO, I WASN'T TRYING.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE ITEMS 2C, D AND E ALLSTATE TRUCK AND TRAILER REPAIR.
CHANGE OF ZONING SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN.
ANY DISCUSSION IN MOTION? EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE AND IT'LL BE READY IN A SECOND HERE.
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HERE YOU GO.I DON'T HAVE A LISTING OF WHO VOTED IN OPPOSITION.
OH OK, I WAS ON THE WRONG SCREEN.
OK WITH COMMISSIONER LUCHT IN OPPOSITION.
ALL RIGHTY, TOLD YOU IT'S NEW.
THREE DIFFERENT SCREENS WE HAVE TO WORK WITH AND I GOT ONE HERE TOO.
ALL RIGHT ITEMS, AND THIS NEXT ONE IS ANOTHER THREE PARTER, FOLKS.
[Items 2F - 2H]
ITEM TWO F CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF VENTURE DISTILLING LAND LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD-03-47 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 406 AND 412 SOUTH BARNS.
ITEM 2G CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF VENTURE DISTILLING LAND INC LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW BREWERIES, WINERIES, DISTILLERIES USED ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD-03-47 FOR A COMMUNITY RETAIL UNIT.
THIS PROPERTY AGAIN LOCATED 406 AND 412 SOUTH BARNES ROAD AND ITEM 2H CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF VENTURE DISTILLING LAND LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A DISTILLERY FACILITY ON PROPERTY ZONE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD-03-47 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USE OF THIS PROPERTY ALSO ADD 406 AND 412 SOUTH BARNES DRIVE AND PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO READ THEM ALL AGAIN.
LET ME GO BACK TO THE OTHER SCREEN.
I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DID YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING? PROBABLY NOT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER LUCHT, IF YOU COME ON DOWN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
AND WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, THEN LUCHT, THEN ROSE.
LAUREL DRIVE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND I HAVE DOUG SANDRIDGE WITH THE FARNSWORTH GROUP, WHO IS MY ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, GO AHEAD.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES TO THE BUILDING.
ARE THERE GOING TO BE 18 WHEELERS OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE BOX TRUCKS? TYPICALLY IT'S A BOX TRUCKS DELIVERY.
I MEAN, NOW IN THE DAYS OF LTL, WE DON'T ALWAYS GET TO CHOOSE WHO ARRIVES, BUT OUR TYPICAL SHIP IN AND SHIP OUT IS YOUR AVERAGE LTL FEDEX FREIGHT, SMALLER DELIVERY, SMALLER BOX TRUCK STYLE TRUCK.
OK, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN DOING 10 YEARS INSTEAD OF 15? YES, WE DID BUY THE PROPERTY, SO I JUST LISTED 15 AS IT SEEMED LIKE KIND OF A GOOD NUMBER FOR THE INVESTMENT IN THE SPACE, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.
YES, AND THEN WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AX THE WINE TASTING AT ANY TIME? WE DIDN'T EVEN CURRENTLY APPLY FOR A TASTING, BUT WE WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE FOR THE FUTURE.
SO YES, WE WOULD IF IT DIDN'T FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.
YES, AND IN THIS SPACE THERE'S ABOUT FORTY FIVE FOOT YARD SPACE ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
IT USED TO BE TWO SPACES 406 AND 412.
WE DON'T EVEN REALLY HAVE A USE FOR THE 406 SIDE YARD ALL THE WAY DOWN, WHICH WOULD MAKE FOR A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PARKING AVAILABILITY IF NEEDED FOR THAT USAGE.
I JUST NOTICED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD A WINE TASTING, AND WE DIDN'T EITHER.
IT'S KIND OF THE REASON, LIKE ALL NINE, WE TALKED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, THEY REALLY DID WANT TO GET US THAT, YOU KNOW, A RETAIL USAGE AND MORE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.
THE REASON WE DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY APPLY FOR THAT IS JUST WITH THE CURRENT USE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT JUST DIDN'T FIT.
IF IT WAS A GREAT FIT, WE'D LOVE TO ADD IT OR HAVE IT, BUT IT WASN'T CURRENTLY PART OF OUR PLAN.
I'M ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
I WANT TO SEE A TASTING ROOM THERE.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY MORE IN ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE BRINGING FOOD TRUCKS IN.
HONESTLY, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A GREAT FRONT AREA OUT THERE THAT WOULD MAKE A GREAT KIND OF SUN SHADED PATIO.
I MEAN, I AM MOVING THIS BUSINESS FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, WHERE WE DID HAVE
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MORE OF THAT GOING ON.AND YEAH, HAVING DARK CLOSE BY, WE WERE HOPING THERE WOULD BE SOME MODIFICATIONS.
A COUPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T EXACTLY SHOO-IN AS NICELY, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A POSSIBILITY FOR THE SPACE, CERTAINLY.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD YOU BE? WE OPERATE WITH FOUR CURRENTLY.
I MEAN, WE'D LOVE TO BECOME A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AS THINGS GO ON.
BUT, THAT'S OUR KIND OF TRIED AND TRUE.
PEOPLE TASTE YOUR STUFF, AND THEY MIGHT BUY IT.
YEAH, JUST KIND OF OUR SKELETON JUST PACKING, BOTTLING, RECEIVING IS FOUR PEOPLE.
IN COLORADO SPRINGS, WE HAD 12 AND A SIMILAR SIZED BUILDING.
HOW LONG HAS THAT BUILDING BEEN VACANT? ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, BUT IT WAS REALLY DEFUNCT FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THAT.
AN OLDER GROUP OF BUSINESS PEOPLE, KIND OF THE BUILDING HAD STARTED TO WANE AND THEY SEMI-RETIRED.
SO THEY WERE A COUPLE OF YEARS OF JUST SELLING OFF STOCK AND BUT IT HAD BEEN VACANT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, WHEN WE PURCHASED IT.
I REALLY WANT TO SEE LANDSCAPING DONE THERE AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE FACADE.
I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE AREA.
DEFINITELY THE PICTURES THAT YOU SHOWED THE CITY HAD ACTUALLY DONE A GREAT JOB OF REDOING ALL THOSE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WASN'T SHOWN IN THE PICTURES I SAW FROM YOUR WORKING PLAN.
WE'RE GOING TO, OF COURSE, REPAINT THE BUILDING AND THERE'LL BE SOME LITTLE PLANTERS ON EACH SIDE.
AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU PUTTING SLATS IN THE FENCE, WHAT--THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, THE STAINLESS STEEL TANKS ARE BEAUTIFUL, BY THE WAY, BUT PLANTING DID WANT SOME SHIELDING TO THAT.
BUT I FIND THOSE THINGS AWESOME.
SO THE SLATTING WAS ABOUT SHIELDING THAT SO.
COMMISSIONER ROSE, MY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH TIMING, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BUYING THE BUILDING, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SIT ON IT.
IF THIS GETS APPROVED ALREADY THROUGH THE COUNCIL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET AFTER IT.
I OWNED IT ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, SO I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF SHOCKED TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING.
I WAS LIKE, WHAT, FIVE MONTHS? BUT SO, YEAH, NO, WE'LL BE WORKING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE HOPE TO ACTUALLY BE IN THE BUILDING BY JANUARY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BUSINESS, IF THIS GOES THROUGH HERE.
HAD TO COME BACK TO MY HOME STATE.
ALL RIGHTY! LET ME ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.
AND I'M GUESSING WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM EITHER.
SO COMMISSIONERS, MOTION DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER LUCHT, AND THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT A CONDITION OF THE SUP THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO ADD A TASTING ROOM OR SOME KIND OF RETAIL ENVIRONMENT IF THEY EVER WANT TO.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND THEN COMMISSIONER OTT, I TURNED YOU ON.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GIVE HIM 10 YEARS WITHOUT THE TASTING ROOM.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 2F, G AND H ALL THREE ITEMS CORRECT WITHOUT THE TASTING ROOM? YES, SIR, AND 10 YEARS.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? SEEING THAT THERE'S NO SECOND, THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ROSE, YOU CHIMED IN FIRST, SIR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE 15 YEARS AND TO ALLOW FOR A TASTING ROOM, NOT A FULL BLOWN RESTAURANT, BUT A TASTING ROOM, IF THEY SO CHOOSE DOWN THE ROAD.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR TASTING ROOM IN A GDC, OR IT CAN BE INCORPORATED FROM ONE OF THE OTHER PDS THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE ITEMS F, G AND H.
WAS THAT ALSO FOR THE TEN YEARS? NO, 15.
AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE A TASTING ROOM.AND DO I HEAR SECOND ON THAT ITEM BEFORE WE GO TO--SECOND.
OK, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
DISCUSSION, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. OH NO.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PARKING FACILITY.
DO THEY OWN THE PARKING AND WHAT THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK AT A LATER TIME? DOES THIS INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF THE PARKING? NO.
THEY WERE DESCRIBING THE LAND WHERE THEY HAD THE CAPABILITY OF EXPANDING THE PARKING IF NEEDED, AND IF ANYTHING, BE A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUE TO GO IN AND RE-STRIPE AND THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR REZONING ON THAT.
OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 2F, G, AND H FROM VENTURE DISTILLING LAND LLC AMENDMENT TO PD-03-47, SPECIAL USE PROVISION TO ALLOW BREWERIES, WINERIES, DISTILLERIES AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR THE DISTILLERY.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
WHAT ABOUT THE--FOR 15 YEARS WITH THE TASTING ROOM, THANK YOU.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
THAT PASSES SIX TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS IN OPPOSITION.
ALL RIGHTY, OUR NEXT CASE IS SORRY, OH, IT'S ONLY A SINGLE
[2I. Consideration of the application of Homeyer Engineering, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Single Family-7 (SF-7) District and Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family Attached (SFA) District. This property is located at 1306 and 1314 Rowlett Road. (District 3) (Z 21-27)]
PARTY.THAT'S WHY I GOT ALL MESSED UP CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF HOMEYER--I WAS LOOKING FOR OTHER PARTS--CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF HOMEYER ENGINEERING, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY SF-7 DISTRICT AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1306 AND 1314 ROWLETT ROAD.
AND WE HAVE A MR. GUERIN AND OR MR. W.
ARCHITECT, COME ON DOWN AND NAME AND TOWN NAME AND TOWN.
GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS GREG GUERIN.
I'M AN ARCHITECT WITH EAST STAR DESIGN AT 2000 RUSHING CREEK DRIVE, HEARTLAND, TEXAS, 75126 AND WE HAVE A PROPOSED DESIGN TO REZONE THIS SINGLE FAMILY LOT CORNER.
IT'S ABOUT TWO POINT TWO ACRES AND WE'D LIKE TO REZONE IT TO A STRAIGHT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ZONING, WHICH REQUIRES 90 FOOT DEEP LOTS AND 20 FOOT MINIMUM WIDE LOTS.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD TWENTY FIVE FOOT WIDE TOWNHOMES, TWO STOREY TOWNHOMES WITH A MODERN DESIGN.
AND WE THINK WITH THAT STRAIGHT ZONING, WE COULD FIT APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 22 TOWNHOMES AND WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY TOWARDS THE BACK.
SO WE EACH TOWNHOME IS REQUIRED TO HAVE ITS OWN STREET FACE.
TWO STOREY TOWNHOME, ABOUT SEVENTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, AND WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT RENDERINGS.
FIVE UNIT BUILDING WITH A GARAGE IN THE BACK.
TWO CAR GARAGE, LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN DINING, THE FRONT ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH A POWDER ROOM.
THIS IS REAR ELEVATION WITH THE GARAGE DOORS AND FRENCH DOORS UP IN THE BEDROOM, SLOPED ROOFS, MODERN LOOKING BALCONY WITH SLIDING GLASS DOORS.
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AND WE WANTED TO TRY TO FRONT THE MAIN STREETS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO IMPROVE THE.INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEIR BACKS TOWARDS THE STREET, WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO PUT THE FRONT DOORS FACING THE CORNERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OWNER HERE, AND WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEER IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER LUCHT AND THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON.
WHAT AMENITIES ARE YOU PLANNING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING LIKE A GAZEBO TYPE AND THE STANDARD AMENITIES FOR THE STRAIGHT ZONING.
IF YOU'RE UNDER 20 UNITS, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED.
BUT WE DID HAVE SOME SPACE SET ASIDE AND ONE OF THE LAYOUTS WHERE WE HAD A COUPLE DEDICATED OUTDOOR LIKE BARBECUE AREAS FOR COMMON USE.
WHAT'S YOUR MARKET VALUE SETUP FOR THE UNITS? SO I'D HAVE TO ASK THE OWNER.
WELL, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
GOT TO GET IT ALL OFFICIAL HERE.
YEAH, WE ARE LOOKING AROUND 300 TO--NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
OH, MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] 614 FOREST HILL, MURPHY, TEXAS.
TO ANSWER, WE'RE LOOKING AROUND 250 TO 350.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PRICED RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN BEFORE US TONIGHT.
THERE IS NO DETAIL INCLUDED IN THIS, AS YOU'RE SHOWING IN THESE IMAGES.
IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE A DETAILED PLAN IN YOUR APPLICATION AND JUST A ZONING CHANGE? YEAH, THE QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP, SHOULD WE APPLY FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PD, SPECIAL APPROVAL? OR SHOULD WE TRY TO GO WITH THE STRAIGHT ZONING THAT'S DESCRIBED IN THE APPROVED HANDBOOK? SO WE THOUGHT THE STRAIGHT ZONING WOULD BE RECEIVED BETTER .
WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF DETAIL, I BELIEVE YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US TONIGHT IF WE GAVE YOU A ZONING CHANGE AND I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE DOING AN OPEN ZONING CHANGE WITHOUT A DETAIL BEHIND IT, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF WHY I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
WE EVEN DID DETAILED CIVIL PLANS WITH WATER SEWER.
WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY TO GET IN THE FRONT DOOR, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT CIVIL PLANS JUST TO GET HERE TO THIS PHASE.
SO AS AN ARCHITECT, THAT WAS AN ADDED EXPENSE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH.
SOME CITIES YOU'RE ALLOWED TO JUST DO AN ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN AND RENDERING.
SO YEAH, WE HAVE FULL CIVIL DRAWINGS AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF SITE PLANS.
WHY DID YOU NOT WANT TO SUBMIT ANY KIND OF DETAILED PLANS ALONG WITH THIS? IS THERE A REASON FOR IT? I THINK IT'S JUST THE WAY WHEN WE INTERACTED WITH THE CITY TO BEGIN WITH, THEY ASKED US IF WE WANTED TO DO A PD OR STRAIGHT ZONING.
SO I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY AND DO A PD.
I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER THAT.
IN THE PROCESS OF STRAIGHT ZONING CASE IS AN EASIER PROCESS THAN A PD.
AS AN ARCHITECT MYSELF, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
SORRY, BUT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A PLAN, THEY COULD GO OFF A DIFFERENT ROADWAY, CAN'T THEY? I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH THIS CONCEPT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
NO, AND WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OF IT.
STAFF HAS REVIEW OVER THEY MUST COMPLY WITH THE ALLEY, GARAGES, AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE STANDARD.
THEY HAVEN'T COME FORWARD WITH AN ALLEY WAIVER REQUEST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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SO IF THEY WERE TO DEVIATE TOO MUCH IN A TIGHT SITE LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY CAN.YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A VARIANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY UNITS THEY GET ON THERE.
BUT YEAH, THEY COULD BE SMALLER UNITS.
THEY COULD BE BIGGER UNITS AND WE HAVE A LOT MINIMUM WIDTH ATTACHED, WHICH I THINK IS 25 FEET.
SO THERE'S A SET OF RULES THAT THEY HAVE TO GO BY AND THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN, AND I'M JUST SPEAKING AS AN ARCHITECT MYSELF.
THEY JUST FEEL THEY CAN PLAY WITHIN THE RULES WITHOUT DOING A SPECIAL ZONING.
THE RULES ARE PRETTY STRINGENT.
I MEAN, WE MAY HAVE A BETTER DESIGN IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THE RULES ARE VERY STRINGENT.
THEY REQUIRE 90 FOOT DEEP LOTS AND THEY REQUIRE 20 FOOT INTERIOR LOTS, 30 FOOT CORNER LOTS.
THEY REQUIRE A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THE 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY TAKES A LOT OF PLANS AND 90 FOOT LOT IS REALLY NOT NECESSARY.
WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS IN FORT WORTH, FOR EXAMPLE, AND FOR MODERN TOWNHOMES, AND THE CODE FOR SFA IS ACTUALLY, THE LOTS ARE A LOT LARGER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY WORK WITH AROUND DFW, SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER WORKING WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN.
YES, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER IS CORRECT.
WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THAT AND JUST ADD THAT TYPICALLY PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WITH DETAILED PLANS, DETAILED PLANS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS SPECIFICALLY AND OF COURSE, WITH SUPS, WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO GET SPECIAL APPROVAL THROUGH ZONING.
THOSE ARE ACCOMPANIED TYPICALLY BY SITE PLANS AS WELL.
THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE.
BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS PDS ARE TYPICALLY TRIGGERED BY SOME TYPE OF DEVIATION OR FLEXIBILITY THAT A DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING FROM THE CODE SO THAT TYPICALLY IS THE TRIGGER OR IMPETUS TO COMING FORWARD WITH A DETAILED PLAN ANYWAY.
THE POLICY IS GENERALLY THAT IF SOMEONE IS GOING, IF AN APPLICANT IS GOING THROUGH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND DEVIATING FROM THE GDC, THEY NEED TO SHOW WHAT THOSE DETAILS LOOK LIKE.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS REVIEWED THE GDC STANDARDS FOR TOWNHOUSES, TOWNHOUSE ZONING AND FEELS THEY CAN MEET ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS OUR FIRST STRAIGHT ZONING IN PROBABLY YEARS.
SO IT'S KIND OF A NEW ANIMAL TO US, SO WE'RE NOT PICKING ON YOU; IT'S JUST IT'S A NEW ANIMAL TO US.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND YOU SAID THE LOT SIZE WAS 2.2 ACRES? YEAH, THERE ARE TWO HOUSES AND ONE OF THE HOUSES IS ZONED AG AND THE OTHER HOUSES ON SF-7.
SO IF YOU WERE TO PUT NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THERE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT LIKE FOUR.
I THINK WE COULD FIT EIGHT IF YOU HAD WHAT SF-7 WOULD BE SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET PER LOT AND WE HAVE TWO POINT TWO ACRES, SO IT'S NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET MINUS THE VEHICLE PATHS.
I FIGURED YOU COULD FIT ABOUT EIGHT.
BUT LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, COMPARING THE HOUSES AROUND, YEAH, MAYBE SIX TO EIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE SCALE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL OVERLAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE YEAH, PLAN B WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, AND BUT THEN YOU PUT YOUR BACK TO THE CORNER.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD CORNER TO HAVE TRY TO HAVE THIS KIND OF LOOK FACING THE CORNER.
ARE THESE GOING TO BE RENTAL PROPERTIES OR SOLD AS UNITS? THESE ARE SOLD AS UNITS TO THE DIRECT OWNERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN; IF WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP TO ADDRESS ANY.
LET'S SEE, YOU, OR MR. GUERIN AND OR [INAUDIBLE]? OK, MR. [INAUDIBLE], ARE YOU WITH THEM OR.
AGAIN, IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHICH, SO I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM.
I DO BELIEVE WE MIGHT HAVE A ZOOM SPEAKER, AND IF HE CAN'T COME ON, I DO HAVE HIS COMMENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO HYBRID ZOOM AND LIVE AND SYSTEMS DON'T ALWAYS WORK WELL TOGETHER,
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SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US.HOW ARE YOU DOING? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN, SIR.
AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, AND THEN--MY NAME IS JIMMY H.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 5121 SADDLE RIDGE CT.
MY RESIDENCE BACKS DIRECTLY UP TO THIS PROPERTY, AND MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION, IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE JUST FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, IT TOTALLY CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE ALREADY A GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LOTS OF CONGESTION.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE REAR-ENTRY PARKING, WE EXPERIENCE LOTS OF CONGESTION.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF CRIME HAS INCREASED.
SO MY CONCERN IS I LIKE WHAT THE LADY SAID BEFORE.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HER NAME, BUT, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE FINE.
BUT TO INTRODUCE TOWNHOMES AT THIS POINT THAT WILL LOOK DIRECTLY DOWN INTO ME AND MY NEIGHBORS IS TOTALLY NOT IN AGREEMENT FOR ME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF VOICE MY OPINION AND JUST TO BE HEARD THAT IT JUST CHANGES MATERIALLY, I THINK, THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTIES AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALL TOGETHER.
SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I SEE NONE AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE EFFORT TO ZOOM IN AND TALK TO US.
OK, I BELIEVE THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT CARED TO RESPOND TO THAT AT ALL OR.
SEEING THAT THERE'S NO MORE TESTIMONY--OK, IF YOU'LL COME BACK DOWN, PLEASE.
YEAH, WE COULD EASILY LAY OUT THE TOWNHOMES, SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING DOWN INTO ANYBODY'S BACKYARD.
WE'D ACTUALLY CREATE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A ROAD ON THAT, THE BACK WALL.
SO THERE WOULD BE A LIKE A 50 FOOT ROAD WITH A 30 FOOT PAVING, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE ON EACH SIDE.
SO IT'D BE 50 FEET PLUS EITHER A DRIVEWAY OR A FRONT YARD.
SO THE CLOSEST WE WOULD BE TO THE BACK NEIGHBOR WOULD BE 70 FEET, PER THE SFA ZONING AND THE LAYOUT THAT YOU COULD FIT THERE.
SO WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY DOWN INTO ANYBODY'S BACKYARD.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK DOWN.
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO [INAUDIBLE] OR DISCUSSION.
YES? WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON IN THE QUEUE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE WANTING TO SPEAK OR NOT.
OK? IS SHE HERE OR ON ZOOM? SHE'S BEING PROMOTED IN RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I'M ASKING HER TO UNMUTE.
ANY OF YOU ALL TIRED OF ZOOM YET? [CHUCKLING] I SEE A BUNCH OF HEADS GOING UP AND DOWN.
IT'S KIND OF FUN FOR A WHILE, BUT.
.. IF SHE WOULD RATHER TYPE HER COMMENT TO YOU AND THEN WE COULD READ IT OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.
YOU'RE ON LIVE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
NO, I'M NOT GOING TO START A RADIO TALK SHOW.
[LAUGHTER] MAYBE TELEVISION, DON'T KNOW.
WELL, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO WORK.
I WILL LEAVE THE OPTION FOR HER TO COME IN IF SHE CAN.
OTHERWISE, I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE COMMISSION IF THEY WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING--WELL, LET'S NOT CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING IF THIS LADY COMES IN.
LET'S JUST OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ROSE, IF WE CONSIDER THIS AND PASS IT ON TO COUNCIL, IS THERE A WAY
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THAT WE CAN TIE THIS EXTRA 70 FEET OF ROAD AND LANDSCAPING TO THIS THING? THAT'S JUST ALL THERE WILLING--THIS IS A STRAIGHT UP OR DOWN ZONING CASE.WE CANNOT CONDITION A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE, AND I'M SEEING NODS FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY DOWN THERE.
HE'S SLEEPING, YOU'RE SAYING HE'S NODDING UP AND DOWN, OKAY.
[CHUCKLING] COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY SERIOUS DEVIATIONS FROM THE GDC REQUIREMENTS, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK.
IF THEY'RE CHANGING AND NOT PUTTING IN ALLEYS, IF THEY'RE--GREAT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER, DEPENDS ON THE REGULATION.
AN ALLEY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND HOW THE WAIVER CAN BE REQUESTED THROUGH A PLAT.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY SEE THAT AGAIN, IF THE APPLICANT DETERMINES THAT THEY CANNOT PROVIDE A 100 PERCENT ALLEY LOADED LOTS, THEY WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
YES, WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THEIR PLAT.
OTHER REGULATIONS? YES, USUALLY PDS ARE TRIGGERED WHEN THERE'S EITHER MULTIPLE DEVIATIONS NEEDED, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE.
NOW, IF IT'S MAYBE ONE LOT THAT NEEDS A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT TO THE LOT WITH THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT CAN GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YES, IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK THROUGH SOME SORT OF HEARING OR SPECIAL APPROVAL PROCESS.
IF I MAY DO A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT AND MAY NEED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INPUT ON THIS IF THEY HAVE A PLANT WITH ALLEY WAIVER PLATS WE HAVE TO APPROVE BY LAW, BUT IF WE DISAPPROVE THE ALLEY WAIVER, THEN THE PLAT WOULD NOT BE COMPLIANT.
CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULDN'T BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DETAILS OF THE CODE IF WE DENIED THE ALLEY WAIVER.
JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW UP, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT, I PLAY WHAT IF SCENARIOS HERE, FOLKS.
I JUST I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF SAFE WITH THE--I'M NOT AFRAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN A SUBPAR DEVELOPMENT THERE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT.
IN MY OPINION, AND I WENT AND DROVE THE AREA, THIS IS AND WE SAW ALL THE RESPONSES AND WE READ THEM.
THIS ISN'T SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
A TENTH OF A MILE AWAY, I COULD LIVE WITH IT BETTER THAN I CAN HERE.
THE CLOSEST WE HAVE ARE PATIO HOMES, AND EVEN THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY, SEPARATE RESIDENCES.
AND I LOOKED AT THE LAND, YOU KNOW ME, I LIKE TO SKETCH A LITTLE BIT AND I FIGURED A MODIFIED SF-7 WITH A 55 FOOT WIDE LOT VERSUS 60 FOOT, WE'D PROBABLY GET ABOUT NINE HOMES IN THERE WITH THE STREET DOWN THE MIDDLE ON A CUL DE SAC.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THAT DONE.
IT'S CALLED AN INFILL PROJECT IN IRVING.
I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE WHO HAD A BUILDER.
HE JUST WENT AROUND TOWN, FOUND THESE KINDS OF LOTS AND DID LITTLE LANDFILLS.
AND EVEN PATIO HOMES MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET 12 TO 14 IN THERE.
NOW, I DIDN'T DO A DETAILED ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY.
I WOULD BE OK WITH THIS, BUT WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ALL THE WAY AROUND.
YES, SOME OF IT'S AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE, BUT THERE MAY BE OPEN FOR MORE SINGLE FAMILY.
AND IN THE PLANNING SENSE, DENSER RESIDENTIAL IS USUALLY A BUFFER BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND HIGHER USE.
WELL, THIS IS IN BETWEEN TO SINGLE FAMILY.
SO I WOULD THINK MAYBE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.
IS THIS THE PROPERTY WHERE SHE SAID THERE WAS A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY NEARBY? WELL, YEAH, IT'S NEARBY, IT'S DOWN, PROBABLY LESS THAN A TENTH OF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD AND OFF A LITTLE BIT.
AND I THINK THERE'S MAYBE JUST ONE OR TWO MOBILE HOMES OUT THERE.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH AGRICULTURAL LAND; IT'S POPULATED AS SUCH.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR SPEAKER IN, SO CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN MORE DISCUSSION OR MOTION.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.
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IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW.IN GENERAL, IT'S AN INTERESTING PROJECT, BUT I'M WITH I'M WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT'S IN THE WRONG PLACE.
BUT THE THING THAT'S ALSO UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S STRAIGHT ZONING WE DON'T HAVE WITHOUT THE DETAILED PLAN.
I REALLY THINK THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN A PD THE WHAT WE ARE MORE ACCUSTOMED TO, BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT IF IT IS NOT APPROVED THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A DETAILED PLAN, I THINK THAT WOULD GET.
WELL, THEIR PROCESS IF IT'S NOT APPROVED OR EVEN IF IT IS APPROVED IS TO GO INTO COUNCIL.
AND SO THEY HAVE A CHANCE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
WELL, IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE IT TO A PD, COULD THEY DO THAT BETWEEN HERE AND COUNCIL? I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TIME FOR STAFF TO PROPERLY REVIEW IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YEAH, THAT'D BE PRETTY, PRETTY TIGHT TIME FRAME FOR STAFF TO REVIEW.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO ESSENTIALLY KIND OF START FROM SQUARE ONE AND KIND OF RESUBMIT THE APPLICATION AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND DETAILED PLAN AND THEN COME BACK THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.
DID STAFF, DOES STAFF RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THIS PLAN OR THE ZONING CHANGE? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL, BUT THEY KEEP A SCORECARD UP THERE AND WE'RE WINNING.
NO, LIKE I SAID, OUR THREE TIER SYSTEM.
WE TAKE THEIR EDUCATED INPUT AND REVIEW AND THEN WE PUT OUR AND ADD OUR CITIZEN INPUT AND THE COUNCIL DEALS WITH OTHER ISSUES TOO.
I WILL REITERATE WHAT I SAID EARLIER, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ROSE.
SO IF THIS PASSES AS A DENIAL, WHAT IS THE APPLICANT'S OPTION? THEY CAN GO TO COUNCIL AND PLEAD THEIR CASE.
I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY ELSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
YEP, AND I FIGURED THERE WAS A QUESTION.
THE MOTION IS TO DENY AND WE HAD A SECOND.
OK, THAT THE MOTION TO DENY PASSES SIX TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER LUCHT IN OPPOSITION.
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NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ANOTHER THREE PARTER.CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF VINCENT GERARD AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR AN ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL ON PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT TWO ONE THREE HOLFORD.
ITEM TWO K CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF VINCENT GERARD AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW AN ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL ON A PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT 213 HOLFORD ROAD.
ITEM TWO I CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF VINCENT GERARD AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL AND PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 213 HOLFORD.
ALRIGHTY IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? IF YOU CARE TO COME ON DOWN AND SAY ANYTHING AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION AND OUR PLANNER SLASH IT EXPERT IS TAKEN CARE OF THAT FOR YOU.
ADDRESS IS ONE SEVEN ONE FIVE SOUTH CAPITAL OF TEXAS HIGHWAY SUITE 207.
AND WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE RELOCATION OF A WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY.
IT IS CURRENTLY IN RICHARDSON AND WE ARE MOVING, GET EXACT NUMBERS
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HERE.TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT FEET.
SO THIS IS A FOUR YEAR ENDEAVOR.
BUT YEAH, IT'S A IT'S NOT A VERY FAR DISTANCE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA.
SO THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE IF WE CAN JUMP INTO THIS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED, JUST JUST UP THE ROAD OVER IN CRYSTAL CREEK.
AND HERE'S WITH BOTH OF THEM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
SO THERE'S YOUR 281 OR TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT POINT ONE FEET DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS HAS BEEN A FOUR YEAR ENDEAVOR, LOOKING AT A SEVEN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
WE GET A RING AND WE WORK IN TANDEM WITH OUR REAL ESTATE COUNTERPARTS TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THESE LOCATIONS.
AND WE WENT THROUGH AND INITIALLY THIS LOCATION WAS OWNED BY THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, AND THEY SOLD THEIR PROPERTY TO A TO THE TEMPLE THAT CURRENTLY OWNS IT.
AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US VERSUS THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY INTERESTED BUT DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION WITH US.
SO WE I MEAN, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH HERE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THEM HERE IN A SECOND.
BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING OVER HERE IS WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL ALMOST ABOUT HALF OF THIS AS RESIDENTIAL IN THIS IN THIS RING HERE.
AND THAT JUST MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO GET COVERAGE INTO THESE AREAS, WHICH PEOPLE NEED IN THESE AREAS, ONE FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD CONTENT THAT WE ALL USE NOWADAYS.
SO THERE WASN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS.
AND BACK OVER HERE, YOU CAN SEE THREE WAS LOOKED AT.
YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THESE LOOK VIABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDEVELOPED, BUT THESE DEVELOPERS JUST DO NOT LIKE TO PLAY BALL WITH US BECAUSE IT WILL BACK THEM INTO A CORNER WITH DEVELOPMENT LATER ON.
IN FACT, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE NOW IS WE'RE ON A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITE AND EVENTUALLY THEY ARE GOING NOW.
ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT JUST EVENTUALLY THEY ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THAT FOR THE LAST HOME IN THE SUBDIVISION.
SO NOW WE ARE MOVING FROM OUR LOCATION TO ANOTHER, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS A BIT DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.
SO THIS IS A RF MAP PREPARED BY RF ENGINEER.
I AM NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M THE ONE WHO CREATED THIS, BUT WE DO TAKE THIS FROM AT&T AND VERIZON, AND THIS WILL CARRY THREE CARRIERS ON IT AND THE AT&T COVERAGE.
THIS IS WITH IT AND THIS IS WITHOUT IT.
AND WHAT THAT KIND OF REALLY REPRESENTS IS THE AREA THAT'S AFFECTED.
YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE HATCHED SECTION IS ONE THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF, YOU KNOW, 4G AND WE HAVE OVER HERE, IT LOSES 80 DBM.
THIS IS JUST IN THE AT&T COVERAGE.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE VERIZON AS WELL, AND IT'S A BIT MORE APPARENT TO SEE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY LACKING.
IT'S NOT EVEN TOUCHING SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT VERIZON HAS COVERAGE IN.
SO THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT CANDIDATES THAT WE'VE RUN THROUGH SO FAR OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
YEAH, CRYSTAL CREEK, LIKE I SAID, IS TERMINATING, 2017.
WE WE STARTED THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL SEVEN OF THEM.
SO, YEAH, THERE IS FIREWHEEL WAS THE ONE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY AND BECAUSE OF THEM RECENTLY SELLING THEIR PROPERTY TO THE TEMPLE, THAT'S ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE 5G ON THIS ONCE THIS IS UP AND RUNNING.
SO IT WILL BE THE LATEST AND GREATEST, THE FASTEST FOR THE COMMUNITY BEING PROVIDED FOR THROUGH THIS THIS SWITCH.
SO LIKE IN CLOSING, IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY BECAUSE IT HAS A HOLE WITHOUT IT.
AND REALLY WHERE I WOULD SAY THE DIFFERENCE IS IS BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO BEING ABLE TO DOWNLOAD YOUR VIDEOS AND HAVING YOUR HIGH CONTENT STREAM TO REALLY JUST BEING ABLE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS.
SO YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WELL ON THE HIGHWAY, IN YOUR CAR.
AND WITHOUT THIS, YOU'D BE KIND OF IN THAT POSITION WHERE YOU GET THAT SPEED AND THAT RATE THERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THIS FILLED WITHOUT HAVING TO
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CONTINUE ANOTHER SEARCH FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.AND SO GOING THROUGH, WE ARE REZONING THE APPLICATION FOR PD AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SETBACK TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS JUST JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TOWER, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS THING COMPLETELY TAKEN CARE OF.
SO THESE ARE THE TYPES OF ALERTS YOU GO THROUGH A TEXT, A PHONE CALL AND EMAIL, YOU GUYS DO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM HERE IN GARLAND.
SO THAT WOULD BE HAMPERED IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE TOWER COMPLETELY REDONE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM.
WHAT'S YOUR TIMING ON THIS? YOU'RE LEASING THIS DIRT, YOU'RE BUYING IT FROM THE TEMPLE AND SO FORTH.
SO THE TIMING IS WE'VE HAD A DEAL STANDING.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN IN THE NEXT, SAY, ABOUT SIX MONTHS WITHOUT HAVING A NEW LOCATION.
SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS GOING TO BE PURCHASED FROM THE TEMPLE THAT IS THERE AND I DON'T PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TO PRONOUNCE IT.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PRONOUNCE THE TEMPLE.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT THAT IS MORE ON THE REAL ESTATE SIDE OF THINGS, OUR REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION TEAMS, THE ONE WHO NORMALLY ARRANGES THOSE DEALS AND WE DON'T NORMALLY LOOK AT THOSE SO.
IS THIS GOING, TELL US ABOUT THE TOWER.
IS THIS BASICALLY THE SAME TOWER? YOU'RE JUST MOVING IT OR YOU'RE BUILDING THE SAME TYPE OF STRUCTURE? IS IT GOING TO BE AN OPEN STYLE WHERE YOU GET THE LATTICE THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE? THIS IS GOING TO BE QUITE LITERALLY THE SAME STRUCTURE, BUT I TAKE THAT BACK.
IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE THE THREE CARRIERS, THREE MAIN CARRIERS ON IT.
AND SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PD AND SUP IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT HEIGHT FOR THEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE WITH THE LIGHTNING ROD.
SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S A I THINK, MAYBE A FIVE FOOT DIFFERENCE FROM MOVING FROM ONE SPOT TO THE OTHER.
SO WE'RE NOT EXACTLY CHANGING THE SKYLINE THAT MUCH.
OK, SO BASICALLY LOOKS THE SAME.
IT'LL BE A NEW STRUCTURE, THOUGH, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DECOMMISSION THAT ONE, JUST BREAK IT APART AND BRING IT OVER.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING THAT'S BRAND NEW.
THAT'S THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO IT, IS THAT SOME OF THE NEWER TOWERS I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD SOMEONE COME IN WITH A REQUEST FOR AN ANTENNA, BUT THEY TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE NEWER ONES.
THEY HAVE FEATURES IN THEM SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF YOU HAD A MAJOR WEATHER EVENT AND IT FELL DOWN THAT THEY BREAK IN CERTAIN WAYS WHERE THEY HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT THAT THEY FALL ON, IS IT USING ALL OF THE NEWER TECHNOLOGY IN IT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH ANOTHER ONE OF THESE DOWN OVER IN SAN ANTONIO AND THEIR WIND SPEEDS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE HIGHER REGULATIONS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER ONE OVER IN [INAUDIBLE] WHERE THE STANDARDS ARE MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S JUST WHAT THE DEVELOPER DOES, IS THEY MAKE THE MOST EXTREME AND THEY TAKE THOSE AND THEY APPLY THEM TO ELSEWHERE.
SO THEY DO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I WILL CLAIM I'M NOT AN ENGINEER CARD.
BUT YEAH, THEY DO HAVE THAT TO WHERE THE FALL IS WITHIN.
LIKE, I WANT TO SAY A HALF, BUT I SAY, DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT I'M BEING QUOTED HERE.
SO YEAH, THEY DO KEEP THAT TO.
IT'S NOT JUST A TOWER FALL AND WITHIN THE RADIUS OF THE HIGH, IT DOES BREAK UPON THAT.
CABLE INSIDE OF IT AND THEY AND IT HAS A BREAK IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND IT KIND OF CRUMBLES UPON ITSELF.
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE EXTREME CLIMATES THAN GARLAND HAS.
WE'VE HAD TWO TORNADOES, THOUGH, IN FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING.
FOR SURE, AND THIS WOULD DEFINITELY ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ACCOMMODATING THE NEIGHBORS AS FAR AS THEIR REQUESTS FOR SCREENING.
THAT'S VERY, VERY NICE OF Y'ALL.
BUT THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD AND QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? TO LIKE COMMISSIONER OTT SAID, WE APPRECIATE.
I WAS ON A ZOOM CALL WITH YOU.
APPRECIATE YOU MEETING WITH THE HOA AND YOU ADDRESSED ALL THE ITEMS, EXCEPT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A PICTURE OF WHAT THE GATE'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THEY DON'T WANT A CHAIN LINK FENCE GATE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
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SOMETHING NICE AND RESIDENTIAL, EVEN IF YOU END UP PUTTING SOME BRICK STONE COLUMNS IN AND WROUGHT IRON OR REGULAR GATE.AND IF YOU'LL HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE, IF THIS PASSES ON, IF YOU'LL HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL.
SO I SENT THAT WE DID FINALLY GET FROM I WANNA SAY IT'S BARBARA OR MAYBE DEBRA [INAUDIBLE].
YEAH, BUT SHE DID FINALLY SEND US THE PICTURES OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS WROUGHT IRON AND THEY HAVE SOME AWESOME LIMESTONE WITH SOME BRICKWORK.
SO THAT'S WHAT I PASS THAT ON TO OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR, AND THEY ASSURED US WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU GOING DOWN TO 16 FEET AS IT REQUESTED AND PUTTING THE EXTRA LANDSCAPING IN AND YOU CAN THROW AS MANY SHRUBS AND STUFF IN.
I NOTICED, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF ACQUISITION, BUT THE RETIREMENT HOME OR THE ASSISTED LIVING PLACE STILL KEPT A STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN THE TEMPLE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY OR THE CITY LINE THERE.
TO THE NORTH OF THERE? YEAH, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE LOVED IT PUSHED INTO THAT AREA.
BUT THEY WEREN'T HAVING ANY OF IT.
AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF ONE OF THOSE.
YOU GO IN ONCE YOU GO IN TWICE THE THIRD TIME, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO TALK TO YOU ANYMORE.
WHICH IS STRANGE BECAUSE AT ONE POINT THAT LAND WAS OWNED, I THINK, BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TEMPLE.
THE DYNAMICS OF THAT, WHILE I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING, I DON'T ALWAYS GET PRIVY TO.
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE SAY, WILL IT DEGRADE VALUE MY HOUSE, BUT I TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL DEGRADE IT MORE.
A TOWER THAT YOU'LL IGNORE AFTER A WHILE.
WE'RE NOT GETTING A CELL PHONE SIGNAL BECAUSE WHEN WE MOVED IN 25 YEARS AGO, I THINK WE'RE WITH VERIZON AT TIME WE HAD TO PUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS UP AGAINST THE WINDOW A REPEATER TO EVEN GET A SIGNAL TO COME TO GET A SIGNAL IN THE HOUSE, SO SINCE THE TOWER WENT UP, NO PROBLEMS. AND THERE ARE TWO LEVELS OF 5G.
WILL THIS BE THE HIGHER LEVEL OF 5G? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS THE LATEST FROM SAMSUNG AND WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
THERE ARE SOMETHING ABOUT WAVELENGTHS AND EVERYTHING 5G.
THERE'S A ONE THAT WILL CRAM SOME INFORMATION OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW? WOW.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
YOU MIGHT GET THAT INFORMATION READY FOR COUNCIL, TOO.
YEAH, IT'S THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO JUST GET ON RECORD.
NORMALLY, WHENEVER WE DO TAKE IT FOR THE BUILDING PERMITS, IT'S ALMOST AN IMMEDIATE TURNAROUND ON THAT.
I KNOW NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO HATE IT FOR A WHILE, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL JUST DISAPPEAR INTO THE BAY.
WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THE SHORTEST RELOCATIONS I'VE EVER SEEN, SO IT'S FROM ONE MUNICIPALITY TO ANOTHER, WHICH BUT IT'S UNDER 200 FEET.
SO IT'S ONE FOR THE BOOKS, FOR SURE.
OH YEAH, IT'S A MONEY PIT FOR YOU RIGHT THERE.
OK, I SEE NOBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND I'M GUESSING, WELL, EITHER OF YOU LADIES CARE TO SPEAKING.
OK, I SEE NOBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND I ASSUME WE HAVE NO ZOOMERS SO.
AND OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR MOTION AND DISCUSSION.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, I HOLD TWO FCC LICENSES, SO I UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
AND I'M GLAD YOU GOT BEN 14 GOING IN BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED, COMING TO BE NEEDED GREATLY.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ALL THREE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE PARTS ON THAT.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF VINCENT GERARD AND ASSOCIATES FOR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR AN ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL.
A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR AN ANTENNA, COMMERCIAL.
AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALMOST GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT WE SAY IT ANYHOW.
ALRIGHTY SEEING NO DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS THE LAST ZONING ITEM.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS OUR MISCELLANEOUS ITEM ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
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EVERY SEPTEMBER, WE ELECT OFFICERS AMONG OURSELVES FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN, FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN, SECOND VICE CHAIRMEN.CURRENT OFFICERS ARE COMMISSIONER ROBERTS AS CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER OTT AS FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN.
AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS IS SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER ROSE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE WE REAPPOINT THE CURRENT SLATE OF OFFICERS FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
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MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO KEEP THE CURRENT OFFICERS.AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE BY HAND ON THIS ONE.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT ONE IN THE QUEUE.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CURRENT SLATE.
WELL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS BEFORE I DO THAT, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE NOMINATIONS MADE.
YES, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
WOULD THAT HELP OUT YOUR RECORDING AND EVERYTHING? YES.
THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AND I'VE SAID THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR, BUT I DO APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN YOUR FAITH IN WHAT I DO AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER FRUITFUL YEAR FOR THE CITY.
THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 27TH, I THINK IT'S A 27TH.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.