>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO
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THE SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.THIS PORTION OF OUR MEETING IS THE WORK SESSION PORTION AND WE WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, THEN TAKE A RECESS, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING STAGE OF THE MEETING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD EVENING. WE ARE SET TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PLAT MINUTE?
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTE THROUGH THE PLATS? I SEE NONE.
>> FIRST CASE STATES THE 2014, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND BOATS.
SAYS THERE'S A SPECIFIC EASE PROVISION AND A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 6.55 ACRES.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE RED STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR, IT'S ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ARE ALL ZONE INDUSTRIAL, AND IT'S DEVELOPED TO THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT RENTAL FACILITY.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ACROSS LAVON ARE ZONE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY 7, IT'S DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ACROSS NORTH FIRST STREET ARE ZONE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY 7 AS WELL.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.
URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TYPICALLY HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT SHOULD ENCOURAGE ACCESS TO A RANGE OF MOBILITY OPTION AND IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND/OR SECONDARY ARTERIAL STREETS WITH PROXIMITY TO SIGNIFICANT BUS OR RAIL AMENITIES.
DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THIS CATEGORY GENERALLY ARE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL BUT MAY INCLUDE COMPATIBLE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
THE TOP-LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH FIRST STREET.
TOP RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THE BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO STORE RVS AND BOATS.
THE GDC DOES CLASSIFY THAT AS A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE USE, WHICH REQUIRES APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A TOTAL OF 213 SPACES FOR RVS AND BOATS, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF SIZES PROPOSED, AND THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON THAT.
THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM NORTH FIRST STREET AND THERE IS AN OFFICE.
IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, THAT'S FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS PER THE GDC.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE EIGHT-FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING SCREENING SHRUBS ALONG LAVON TO HELP SCREEN FROM LAVON AS WELL AS FROM NORTH FIRST STREET.
THEY'RE ALSO PRESERVING SOME TREES IN THE NORTH AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO HELP SCREEN FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE CITY IS ALSO WORKING WITH KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN RAILROAD TO PLANT TREES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG LAVON.
THAT WILL HELP SCREEN THIS PROPOSED FACILITY FROM LAVON, BUT THE FINAL APPROVAL HAS NOT BEEN GRANTED YET.
THIS IS THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE AND THIS IS THE DUMPSTER, WHICH WILL COMPLY.
THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE OFFICE, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE SUP TO BE IN EFFECT FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS, AND ALSO THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE RECOMMENDS A TIMEFRAME OF 20-25 YEARS.
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STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THESE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.THE PROPOSED USE CONFLICTS WITH THE DESCRIPTION AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ELIMINATION OF THE EASTERN MOST PARKING ROW TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING FROM LAVON DRIVE AND CONSIDER ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SCREENING IN THIS AREA.
IN ADDITION, SHOULD THE REQUEST BE APPROVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS A TIME PERIOD OF NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS IN ORDER TO RE-EVALUATE THE USE AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
A TOTAL OF 71 LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT, AND WE RECEIVED ONLY ONE RESPONSE WHICH WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND FOR THE REQUEST.
>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER O'HARA, THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> IN MY INFORMATION, [INAUDIBLE] FOR A COMMITMENT OF FIVE-YEAR SUP.
HAVE YOU CHANGED THAT TO 10 YEARS NOW?
>> I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER CASE.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT WAS THE SAME ONE.
>> MAYBE IN THE HOTEL THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR FIVE.
>> WAS THE HOTEL. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> THANK YOU. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT GOING TO 10 YEARS? HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT RESTRICTING THE PROVISIONS TO RV AND BOATS AND ELIMINATE TRUCKS AND BUSES SO THEY CANNOT APPEAR THERE?
>> WE HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH THE APPLICANT, THE STAFF ALSO PROVIDED THE REPORT TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY ARE AWARE.
>> THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT.
>> THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN BARELY PROBABLY THOSE.
COMMISSIONER OTT, DID YOU BAIL OUT?
>> OKAY. LET ME TURN YOUR MIC ON. THERE YOU GO.
>> YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE 24-HOUR ACCESS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT IT'LL HAVE SOME SORT OF A TYPICAL SLIDING GATE WITH A KEYPAD OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> YES, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO SURVEILLANCE AVAILABLE.
>> YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OF COURSE, I'VE GOT A FEW.
I WASN'T ABLE TO REALLY GET IN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I NOTICED THERE ARE A TON OF TREES AND THEY COULD HAVE A FUN TREE MITIGATION FEET GOING ON THERE.
I CAN'T TELL IF THEY'RE A BUNCH OF TREES AT THE BACK ALONG LAVON DRIVE OR NOT.
IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS IS YOU ARE MAYBE REQUESTING THAT THEY KEEP THE BACK ROW TO KEEP SOME OF THAT NATURAL VEGETATION THERE?
>> A LOT OF THE TREES ARE, I BELIEVE IN THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
BUT THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE VEGETATION IS BECAUSE THIS SITE DOES SIT AT A LOWER ELEVATION FROM THE RAILROAD.
SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TREES, BUT SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE VISIBLE.
>> OKAY. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
I WASN'T ABLE TO QUITE TELL WHAT SHRUBS THEY ARE PLANTING ON THE BACK THERE AND HOW HIGH THEY WOULD GROW.
IF THEY WERE TO 15 YEARS WILL THEY GROW 15, 20 FEET, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT IS, WHAT KIND OF RV STORAGE PLACES IS THERE? GO EVERYWHERE FROM PARK AND GO'S.
I DON'T SEE ANY COVERAGE SPACES HERE WHICH SOME OF THE NICER ONES HAVE, AND THERE'S ALSO CONCIERGE TYPE RV STORAGE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A DUMP.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WASTE DUMP, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROPANE GAS FILLING STATION THERE, AND I GUESS FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT TOO, AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE CONCIERGE WHERE YOU CAN CALL IN, THEY'LL MAKE READY YOUR RV AND HAVE IT READY AND WAITING FOR YOU.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO GARLAND, BECAUSE I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE IS IN LOUISVILLE.
I'M GOING TO PUT ONE IN OVER HERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE NICE.
>> NO? OKAY. YOU SHOWED UP AGAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
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I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR OUR ESTEEMED LEGAL COUNSELOR.THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS RECOMMENDED THAT BUSINESS PLACE SIGNS DOWN NEAR THAT BECAUSE THREE-QUARTERS OF IT IS IN A FLOODPLAIN.
SO THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET INSURANCE ON IT AND I THINK ENGINEERING HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY PUT SIGNS DOWN NEAR SAYING, "YOU'RE PARKING IN A FLOODPLAIN, BE AWARE." ENGINEERING'S RECOMMENDING THAT THEY DO THAT.
CAN WE PUT IT AS A CONDITION OF THE SUP?
>> I THINK WE COULD PUT AS A PROVISION OF THE SUP, THAT THEY MUST CLEARLY IDENTIFY THE AREA THAT'S WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
I WOULD HESITATE TO TELL THEM HOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THEY NEED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY IT.
>> THAT WILL BE BETTER, I THINK WAY TO APPROACH IT.
>> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z2128.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN AUTO SALES NEW OR USED ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR AUTO SALES NEW OR USED ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 925 LAVON DRIVE, THE ACREAGE IS 0.036 ACRES, AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN TEAL AND THIS IS LAVON DRIVE.
THIS SIDE IS PRIMARILY ZONED, SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, COMMUNITY RETAIL, AND ALSO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, 18-08, IS A SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THIS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH THE AUTO SALES COMPANY.
TO THE WEST IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A RETAIL STORE.
FURTHER TO THE SOUTH IS A VARIETY OF USES, WHICH IS A VACANT BUILDING, OUTDOOR STORAGE, AND ALSO A PAINT AND BODY SHOP.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IDENTIFY THIS AREA AS AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG LAVON DRIVE.
TO THE NORTH IS AN AUTO REPAIR, TO THE EAST IS PERSONAL SERVICE, AND THEN FURTHER TO THE EAST IN THE REAR IS THE SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE VACANT BUILDING ALONG WITH THE PAINT AND BODY SHOP.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE USE, WHICH IS THE AUTO SALES, WITHIN THIS EXISTING BUILDING, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AT THIS SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING NINE PARKING SPACES ON THIS SIDE, WHICH WOULD MEET THE GDC REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING OR MAKING CHANGES TO THE PARKING SPACES.
THERE ARE EXISTING PARKING SPACES ALONG LAVON DRIVE, WHICH THOSE ARE FOR SALE OR DISPLAY.
SINCE THE APPLICANT IS NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO OR THE EXPANSION TO THE PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPING IS NOT TRIGGERED BY THIS REQUEST.
HOWEVER, THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE.
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THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR 20 YEARS, FOR THE SUP, AND NO DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS APPLICATION.STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
IN ADDITION, CONTINUED USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR AUTO SALES IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT SURROUNDING USE AND ZONING.
HOWEVER, STAFF RECOMMENDS NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS ALLOWS FOR A REEVALUATION OF THE SITE SHOULD SURROUNDING LAND USE PATTERNS CHANGE OR INCREASE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
WE MAILED OUT 65 NOTIFICATION LETTERS, WE RECEIVE THREE IN FAVOR INSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND THE TOTAL RESPONSES WAS THREE.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER OTT?
>> THIS IS SIMPLY A RENEWAL OF AN SUP THAT THEY HAD. IS THAT CORRECT?
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF WITH ANYBODY THAT'S AROUND THEM?
>> NO COMPLAINTS THAT I'M AWARE.
>> YEAH. THE ORIGINAL SUP WAS FOR 10 YEARS, NOW THEY WANT 20? HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT JUST ANOTHER 10-YEAR SUP?
>> I HAVE NOT, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE REPORT PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
>> NO MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO EXPAND THE EXISTING ELECTRIC SUBSTATION THAT IS MAINTAINED BY GARLAND POWER & LIGHT.
SITE IS LOCATED AT 2900 AND 3180 ELM GROVE ROAD.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND A PLAN FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION ON A PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 3.737 ACRES.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE RED STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND IT IS NEAR THE LANDFILL SITE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES HOLD A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION 08-04, AND THAT IS THE SUBSTATION FOR GARLAND POWER & LIGHT.
TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS 07-35, AND THAT IS THE ENCORE SUBSTATION, AND EAST OF THAT IS 20-47, AND THAT WAS THE SUBSTATION THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR COTTONWOOD CREEK.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS OPERATING LANDFILL AND PUBLIC FACILITY.
THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ELM GROVE ROAD, TOP RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM VINSON, THE BOTTOM LEFT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM VINSON, AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM VINSON.
THE AVAILABILITY OF UTILITY AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THE UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDED BY THIS PROPOSAL IS VALUABLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WHICH SHOWS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, AND OVER HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS IS THE EXISTING SUBSTATION FOR GARLAND POWER & LIGHT, AND THE BROWN SHADED AREA IS THE EXPANSION.
THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM ELM GROVE ROAD, AND IT'LL BE INTERCONNECTED TO THE ENCORE SUBSTATION, AND EVENTUALLY TO THE COTTONWOOD CREEK.
THE RED LINE SHOWS THE EXPANSION, AND THEY'LL PROPOSE THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE ALONG WITH THE SCREENING SHRUBS.
THEN THE GREEN LINE SHOWS THE EXISTING CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND VEGETATION,
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AND SOME OF THE UNHEALTHY VEGETATION WILL BE REPLACED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS.THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT ENCLOSURE ELEVATIONS, FENCE DETAILS, THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE SUP TO BE AN EFFECT IN PERPETUITY.
THE APPLICANT REQUEST IS AN SUP ONLY, AND NO GDC DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION.
WE DID MAIL OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
TOTAL OF THREE LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? I NOTICE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON TOP OF THE FENCE IS GOING TO BE BARBED WIRE.
IN GDC, I THINK TYPICALLY SAYS WE CAN'T HAVE BARBED WIRE OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC EXEMPTION FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES?
>> THERE IS AN EXEMPTION IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
>> OKAY. THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THAT, SO THEY DON'T NEED A DEVIATION.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, RENEWAL FOR A HOTEL, MOTEL LIMITED SERVICES ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A HOTEL, MOTEL, WEBINAR SERVICES ON PROPERTIES ON INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 3645 LEON ROAD AND THE ACREAGE IS 1.0922 ACRES AND THE SITE IS ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS A CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE REQUEST.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN TEAL AND THIS IS LEON ROAD AND THEN THIS IS SOUTH GARLAND ROAD.
TO THE NORTH, THE SITE IS ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING COMPANY.
THIS PD 20-05 IS DEVELOPED WITH A RETAIL SHOP THAT SELLS TIRES.
THE PD 02-18 IS A MANUFACTURING COMPANY WHICH IS ON DAISY BRAND.
THEN THE SITE TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND IS DEVELOPED WITH THE HOTEL.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH GARLIN AVENUE CATALYST AREA, WHICH IS THE MAIN CORRIDOR OR GATEWAY TO THE COMMUNITY.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OF LEON ROAD.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A MANUFACTURING COMPANY.
THE TIRE SHOP TO THE WEST ALONG SOUTH GARLIN, AND TO THE EAST IS THE MANUFACTURING COMPANY, DAISY BRAND.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING AND THERE'S CURRENTLY 48 HOTEL ROOMS ON SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE NEW FURNITURE, INTERIOR PAINTING, AND IN ALSO NEW FLOORING.
IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE APPLICANT HAS PAINTED THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND IN ALSO AT EXTERIOR LIGHTING TO THE PROPERTY.
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THERE ARE CURRENTLY 52 PARKING SPACES ON SITE, WHICH MEETS THE GARLIN DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.THE APPLICANT IS NOT EXPANDING THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING, NOR ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ON SITE.
THEREFORE, THE LANDSCAPING IS NOT TRIGGERED BY THIS REQUEST.
HOWEVER, THERE IS AN EXISTING LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THIS PROPERTY AND THEN ALSO ALONG LEON ROAD.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SIGN ON THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT MAKING CHANGES TO THE SITE NOR PROPOSING A NEW SIGN FOR THIS SUBJECT SITE.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS AND NO CHANGES ARE BEING MADE TO THE ELEVATIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR 40 YEARS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE.
NO DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, HOWEVER STAFF RECOMMENDS A SHORTER TIME PERIOD SUCH AS FIVE YEARS TO RE-EVALUATE THE USE AS IT RELATES TO SUPPORTING REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN THE GENERAL AREA.
WE MAILED OUT 22 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
>> IT SAID THE RECOMMENDATION IS A FIVE-YEAR SUP TO RE-EVALUATE.
WHAT'S THE CURRENT SUP WHICH CURRENTLY IS EXPIRING?
>> THE CURRENT SUP WAS 25 YEARS.
>> BUT NOW THE CITY IS WANTING US TO LIMIT IT TO FIVE, TO RE-EVALUATE AT THIS POINT?
>> THAT'S LOCATED CATTY-CORNER TO WHERE THE OLD HYPERMARKET AND WALMART WAS?
>> I THINK IN ABOUT THREE MORE YEARS, THE CEMENT MANUFACTURING FACILITY THAT'S THERE, THEIR LEASE WILL RUN OUT, AND THE AREA WILL BE LOOKED AT CLOSER, I THINK, FOR CHANGING IT TO SOMETHING ELSE.
>> I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND IT WILL GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED ME.
THERE ARE TWO HOTELS DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.
ONE IS IN INDUSTRIAL AND IT IS A LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING USE, SO IT CAN STAY THERE AS LONG AS IT REMAINS A HOTEL.
THE ONE BELOW IT HAS A 30-YEAR OLD SUP THAT EXPIRES IN 2029.
I HATE TO DO SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY FOR FIVE YEARS WHEN HE PUT MONEY INTO IT.
THEN THAT'LL BE IN THE SAME APPROXIMATE TIME THE OTHER ONE RUNS AT.
WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING THEN.
THOSE HOTELS DO SERVE THOSE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
I'VE DONE WORK WITH THEM, A PAIN IN THE PAST AND THEY'RE ALWAYS PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY FLYING IN, DIFFERENT MANAGERS, DIFFERENT ENGINEERS, ALL STUFF.
THOSE HOTELS THERE DO SERVE A PURPOSE FOR THOSE IN INDUSTRIAL USES. THANK YOU.
>> I THINK THAT'S THE END OF OUR BRIEFING SESSIONS, SO WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION.
AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE.
YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US IF YOU CARE TO, THAT IS FINE.
IF YOU DON'T CARE TOO, THAT'S FINE TOO.
IN NO WAY DOES IT AFFECT THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.
TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> THANK YOU. HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE BE WITH THIS COMMISSION AND WITH OUR CITY.
WATCH OVER US AND HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS.
AS ALWAYS, SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES. AMEN.
>> WELL, AGAIN, GOOD EVENING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 27TH.
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IF ANY OF YOU CARE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, THERE'S SOME KIOSKS OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN TYPE EVERYTHING IN THAT YOU NEED, AND THEN WE'LL BE NOTIFIED HERE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR NAME OUT.WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE, WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE, OTHER SPEAKERS WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES.
BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR GROUPS SUCH AS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME.
AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
FIRST ITEM WILL BE OUR CONSENT AGENDA.THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED, AND WILL BE VOTING ON ONE MOTION TO APPROVE.
I WILL READ THROUGH THE LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED OR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
SAME THING IN THE AUDIENCE AS THAT.
ANYBODY THERE WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED OR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW.
ITEM 1A IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021.
ITEM 2A, PLAN 21-24 BULK PROPERTIES, GUTHRIE ADDITION, FINAL PLAN.
ITEM 2B PLAN 21-26, ALL NOT SHOPPING EDITION CONTAINS PLANT.
ITEM 2C, PLAN 21-27, MORGAN EDITION NUMBER 1, REPLANT.
ITEM 2D, PLAN 21_28 CLINTON STREET, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, REPLANT.
ANYBODY WISH AN ITEM TO BE REMOVED? WE'LL ENTER INTO MOTION. COMMISSIONER DALTON.
>> I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.
>> I SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO CHIME IN FOR A SEC.
I DON'T THINK THAT STUFF'S WORKING VERY WELL.
COMMISSIONER LUCHT, PRESSING THIS BUTTON.
DO YOU CARE TO SECOND? [LAUGHTER].
>> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I GUESS YOU JUST NEED TO SHOUT OUT FOR MOTIONS IN SECONDS NOW.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE. PLEASE VOTE.
THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
[Items 3.a. & 3.b.]
WE'RE INTO ZONING CASES NOW.ITEMS FOR THESE TWO ITEMS WE'LL DO IT ONE TIME IF FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE TO SEPARATE AND WE CAN DO THAT.
ITEM 3A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MASTERPLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK, BUS STORAGE, RVS, AND BOATS USE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1674 AND 1702 NORTH FIRST STREET, DISTRICT 8. LET'S SEE.
ITEM 3B, CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION A MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAIL PLAN FOR TRUCK, BUS STORAGE, RVS, AND BOATS USE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED AT 1674 AND 1702 NORTH FIRST STREET.
LEAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE. MR. FISHER.
[NOISE] DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US THEN?
>> YOU, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER, THE MASTER PLAN 2595 DALLAS PARKWAY, FRISCO TEXAS 75034, REPRESENTING PLATINUM STORAGE 365.
PLATINUM HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE INTENDED TO HAVE A TRUCK BUS RV STORAGE PLACE HERE SINCE BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND BACK WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE USE WAS NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
IT REQUIRED A ZONING APPROVAL SUP, AND THEN WE GOT INTO SOME FLOODPLAIN CHALLENGES, AND HERE WE ARE, SEVERAL YEARS LATER BEFORE YOU.
THAT'S A LONG HISTORY IN THIS PROPERTY.
[NOISE] I THINK IT GIVES YOU A TESTAMENT OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THIS PROPERTY, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE IN A BIT.
THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY WITH LIGHT USES AROUND IT.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH LIMITED ACCESS, WITH A LONELY ACCESS ON FIRST STREET, RAILROAD TRACKS ON THE EASTERN SIDE.
THEN YOU HAVE INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE STORAGE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
AGAIN, THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES AS PROPERTY FROM FIRST STREET,
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LIMITED ACCESS THERE WILL HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT.SIX AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY, 90 PERCENT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN OR IN A FLOOD EASEMENT, WHICH BASICALLY RENDERS THE SITE ALMOST UNDEVELOPABLE.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME USES SUCH AS OUTSIDE STORAGE THAT IS ALLOWED AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S FLOOD PLAIN REQUIREMENTS.
WE THINK WE MAXIMIZE USE OF A PROPERTY THAT'S SUITED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND CAN BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT COMPLIES WITH THE ORDINANCES, INCLUDING THE FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS.
I'VE GONE THROUGH MOST OF THESE, IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, LIMITED VISIBILITY.
I THINK IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WE JUST HAVE INDUSTRIAL BOTH SIDES THAT, THERE'S ALSO LIMITED ACCESS.
THERE'S NO MEDIAN CUT ON FIRST STREET.
YOU BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A RETAIL OR TYPE USE BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONVENIENT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A USED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A USE WHERE SOMEONE IS KNOWING YOU ARE GOING THERE AND THEY KNOW HOW TO GET THERE.
IF YOU ARE IN A DRIVEN RV OR A TRUCK, OF COURSE, YOU SOMETIMES YOU'RE LIMITED ON YOUR ROUTE AND SO YOU GOT TO PLAN YOUR ROUTE AHEAD BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TRUCK IS LARGE, VEHICLES LARGE AND YOU NEED TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND THIS ACCESS WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF SETUP.
THAT JUST SHOWS YOU THE MEDIAN CUT THERE.
THERE'S A DECELERATION LANE OR LEFT TURN LANE THAT PRECLUDES US PUTTING IN A MEDIUM CUT.
THIS WOULD BE, WE DO HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING, SMALL OFFICE BUILDING, BUT THIS WOULD BE CONTROL 24/ 7 VIA THIRD PARTY WHO'S BASICALLY THEY SPECIALIZE IN MONITORING AND SURVEILLING PROPERTY.
EVERYTHING WOULD BE DONE EITHER BY KIOSK OR ONLINE AS FAR AS LIKE PAYING FOR A PLACE TO PUT YOUR VEHICLE AND THEN EVERYTHING IS MONITORED 24/ 7 BY SOMEBODY.
THERE'LL BE, IF THERE'S SOME IN EACH YEAR WITH THE PROPERTY, SOMEONE TRYING TO BREAK IN OR SOMEONE LOITERING OR SOMETHING THAT GETS TAKEN CARE OF IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED AT THIS FACILITY, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER SELF STORAGE FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE GREAT CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THEY USUALLY, UNLESS SOMEONE LIVING ON SITE, THEY JUST HAVE SOMEONE THERE DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS.
THIS IS BETTER THAN THAT AND THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY ALWAYS WHO HAS EYES ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, BASICALLY THE PART YOU SEE THERE IS WHERE A BUILDING COULD BE BUILT, A VERY LIMITED AREA.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THOUGH, IS BECAUSE IT'S TIGHT AT THERE NOT MUCH ROOM AT THEM WHERE STREET FRIEND GOES.
NOT TO MENTION, WE HAVE SOME SCREENING OF SHRUBS OR PROPOSING ALONG THE CURB AREA AT YOUR ENTRANCE THERE IN ADDITION TO THE TREES ALONG FIRST STREET.
THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING A SOLID VEGETATIVE SCREEN, EASTERN RED CEDARS AND WHAT THAT DOES, THAT GROWS QUICKLY AND PROVIDES A SOLID SCREEN UP TO AT LEAST 20 FEET.
SOMETIMES THOSE GROW TALLER IN MORE HUMID CONDITIONS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NICE SOLID SCREEN.
IT'S GOING TO SCREEN ANY TRUCK, BUS, RV STORAGE EQUIPMENT THERE IN A FEW GROWING SEASON, IF NOT FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
THEN THE CITY IS ALSO IN THE PROCESS AND THIS IS UNRELATED, BUT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF AT LEAST APPLYING FOR USE OF THE RIDE AWAY OR RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY TO PLANT SOME TREES TO AUGMENT AND PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL AESTHETICS FROM LEVON.
THERE'S A VIEW OF THE SITE FROM LEVON.
YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME TREES BECAUSE THE PROPERTY, IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS, WE HAD TO HAVE DRAINAGE WAYS INCLUDING THE BRADFIELD CREEK ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER.
WE HAD TO MAXIMIZE CERTAIN AREAS, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER SO WE COULD CAPTURE WATER.
THE AREAS THAT WE PLAN ON MAINTAINING THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED, THESE DRAINAGE AREAS WHERE OFCOURSE WILL BE ALSO MAINTAINING THE LANDSCAPE OR THE NATURAL PLANT MATERIAL THAT'S THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME NATURAL SCREENING IN ADDITION TO THE EASTERN RED CEDARS THAT WE HAVE, WHERE WE'D BE BUILDING ALONG THEIR EASTERN PERIMETER.
THERE'S PICTURES OF THE BUILDING AND HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS THAT STAFF MENTIONED.
WE WERE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED.
WE WEREN'T AWARE OF STAFF WAS GOING TO BE IN DENIAL, THIS UNTIL WE READ THE REPORT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING.
A FEW THINGS THE COMP PLAN RECOMMENDS MULTI-FAMILY FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I CAN'T THINK OF A WORSE PROPERTY FOR MULTIFAMILY ONE, IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND FLOOD EASEMENT.
IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAYBE BUILD ON THE FRONT WESTERN PART LET'S JUST SAY YOU JUST DISREGARD FLOODPLAIN.
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YOU'RE GOING TO GET A PRETTY DERELICT APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILT THERE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL ZONING NEXT STORE.IT'S NOT A GREAT SITE FOR LIVING AND SO YOU'RE SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR HARDER YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, NOT TO MENTION IT'S JUST WOULDN'T BE A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE, FRANKLY.
WITH THAT, EVEN THAT COULD LIKELY NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN OF FLOOD EASEMENT.
WE FIGURED OUT A USE THAT DOES MAKE SENSE WITH THOSE LIMITATIONS.
I THINK THAT THE TIME LIMIT IS UNWARRANTED, THE TEN YEARS.
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT HAVING TO RE-EVALUATE THIS IN TEN YEARS.
THE PROPERTY STILL GOING TO BE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THESE LONG TIME INDUSTRIAL USERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THEY'VE SPENT HUGE AMOUNTS OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT ON THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
IT'S GOING TO REMAIN, USE AND STORAGE IS A LONG-TERM USE.
I JUST I DON'T SEE THE VALUE AND LIMITING A PROPERTY TO TEN YEARS.
THIS ISN'T A BIG BUILDING WE'RE BUILDING, BUT WE'RE STILL PUTTING.
WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THE PROPERTY, ON TREE TREE REMEDIATION.
THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD TIRES AND OTHER THINGS CREPT IN THE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE HAD TO PAY TO HAVE REMOVED.
WE'VE HAD HOMELESS LIVING THERE AND SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF COSTS IN ADDITION, THE TAXES THAT WE PAY EVERY YEAR THAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR A 30 YEAR SUP ON THIS PROPERTY JUST BASED ON OUR INVESTMENT, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE LIMITS AND CHALLENGES OF THE PROPERTY.
USES AROUND IT, I MENTIONED THERE'S GISD BUS PARKING CUBE.
THERE'S A COMPETITOR CUBE SMART THAT HAS TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE IMMEDIATELY TO OUR SOUTH AND INDUSTRIAL USES WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THIS USES ITS FITS IN ALIGNS REALLY WELL WITH THE USES AROUND IT.
I THINK I WILL STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IF PROVIDED.
>> COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> [NOISE] WOULD YOUR CLIENT BE WILLING TO ACCEPT SEVERE RESTRICTIONS TO OUR REASON, BOATS AND NOT ALLOW ANY TRUCKS OR BUSES TO BE PARKED ON THE PROPERTY IF WE CONSTRUCT A MOTION LIKE THAT?
>> MY CLIENT WOULD NOT AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COMPETITOR TO HERSELF THAT DOES HAVE TRUCK PARKING, AND SO WE WOULD PUT US AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
NOT TO MENTION THAT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, SO I HATE TO LIMIT OUR USE TO ONLY RVS AND BOATS.
WE WILL HAVE MOSTLY RBS AND BOATS, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOME TRUCKS.
I DON'T SEE THEM BEING SEMI TRUCK TRAILER.
IT'D BE HARD TO GET AN OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT REALLY WE'RE NOT DESIGNING THE SITE TO HAVE FULL 52 FOOT LONG SEMI TRUCK TRAILERS, BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES.
A LOT OF TRUCKS ARE THAT ARE KNOW WHAT THE RETAILER SIZE, WHICH IS BEER AND WINE TRUCK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE FULL DEFINITION OF RB TRUCK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
>> MAXWELL, HOW FAR BELOW THE FLOODPLAIN ARE WE TALKING FOR THIS PROPERTY?
>> WELL, THERE'S IT RANGES FROM 2-5 FEET ROUGHLY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
OF COURSE, YOU'RE ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING UP 3 OR 4 FEET AT TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE AND THEN IT WILL SLOPE OFF TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST.
THAT PORTION WILL BE A FEW FEET OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
BUT THE FLOODPLAIN MODELING THAT WE HAD TO DO IS FOR 100 YEAR EVENT.
WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR I BELIEF OVER 10 YEARS AND HADN'T SEEN ONLY PART THAT FLOODS IS ON THAT CORNER.
BUT THE WAY WE'VE DESIGNED OUR FLOOD PLAIN OR SAY OUR DRAINAGE, IT'S NOT REALLY A TRUE DETENTION POND, BUT IT'S A DRAINAGE AREA AND AS WE CAPTURE THAT WATER OFF OUR PARKING LOT, IT WILL BE CAPTURED AND SLOW DOWN AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY OR WILL ALONG THE CREEK TO MAKE SURE WE BEST HANDLE THE WATER AS BEST WE CAN.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, THERE WOULD BE SOME CATASTROPHIC EVENT.
AT LEAST IT'S A VEHICLE THAT CAN BE MOVED AND A FLOODING IS NOT SOMETHING YOU GET A LOT OF WARNING LIKE YOU DO WITH A CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE BEING IN BUILDINGS HERE.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE SAFE GUARDED AND WE'VE COMPLIED WITH THE FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS SECTOR, SIGNIFICANT MODELING THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
>> MOST OF THESE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE RVS AND BUSES AND WHAT YOU ENVISION,
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AND IF YOU MANAGE IT CORRECTLY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT VEHICLES THAT HAVE A HIGHER OFF THE GROUND OR CLOSER TO THE LOWER AREA OF THE PROPERTY, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY ENVISION DOING OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT JUST AREN'T TOO WORRIED ABOUT?>> WE PUT THE BOATS AND THE TRAILERS OVER WHERE IT FLOODS.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE SMART THING TO DO ACTUALLY THOUGH.
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ALL CONCRETE LOT.
>> AS FAR AS THE WATER, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REDUCING A LOT OF THE PERMEABLE SPACE WATER IS GOING TO COLLECT AND YOU'RE NOT TRUE DETENTION POND, BUT IT'S RESTRICTED GOING INTO THE CREEK, SO THE CREEK DOESN'T GET OVERWHELMED.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
IS THERE AN SEP FOR THE ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL LAND PROPERTIES?
>> SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER.
THOSE WERE PERMANENT SOME TIME AGO.
WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT THOSE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY LOOK LIKE.
BUT NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S AN SEP THERE.
>> IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THERE AS LONG AS THEY WANT.
>> OUR STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT AND IF THEY'RE LEGALLY THERE, THEY'LL STAY.
IF NOT, THEY MAY HAVE TO COME FOR AN SUP ALSO.
>> YOU THINK 18-WHEELERS OR VEHICLES THAT LARGE WILL NOT GET INTO THIS LIBRARY EASILY, OR CAN EVEN GET INTO THIS LOT?
>> THEY'D BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE LOT BECAUSE WE HAD TO MEET FIRE TRUCK TURN REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAD TO PROVIDE AN AUTO TRUCK TURN REQUIREMENT TO SHOW THE LARGEST VEHICLE.
IT'S JUST NOT OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT LIKE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER WHERE YOU HAVE PREDOMINANTLY SEMI-TRUCK TRAILERS COMING IN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CUBE SMART AERIAL, KEEP THE AREA OF KEEP SMART TO OUR SOUTH, THAT'S A COMPETITOR.
THEY'LL HAVE RBS, THEY'LL HAVE BOATS AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TRUCKS.
BUT MOST OF THE TRUCKS ARE, YEAH, THEY'RE THERE OTHER SHORTER TRUCK I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY ARE 35 FEET OR SHORTER.
COUNTING THE CHASE AND THEY'RE ALL SINGLE VEHICLE VERSUS I'M WETTING THE TRAILER AUTHORS A BETTER TERM FOR A FLUID ME.
>> WOULD YOUR CLIENT BE WILLING TO ACCEPT RESTRICTING IT TO THAT AND NOT ALLOWING 18-WHEELERS?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK HE'S IN THAT POSITION.
I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY THAT HE'S WILLING TO NOT TO PROHIBIT 18-WHEELERS.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FULL USE OF THE PROPERTY AS WE FEEL THAT THE ZONING ALLOWED.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN COMFORTABLY COMMIT TO SAY WE COULD JUST RESTRICT SEMI-TRUCK TRAILERS.
ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE DEFINE THAT TO WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CAN HAVE TRUCKS THERE FOR, ANY TRUCKS IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH, SO I JUST CAN'T SIT HERE AND COMMIT TO THAT BASED ON WHAT I KNOW FROM MY CLIENT.
>> I PICKED UP ON SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU SAID SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY.
ARE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING QUARTERS IN THAT BUILDING?
>> OH, NO. WHAT I MEAN IS I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE.
THERE'LL BE 24/7 SURVEILLANCE FROM OFF THE PROPERTY.
THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY ON A CAMERA.
THERE'LL BE SOMEONE LOOKING AT A MONITOR WHEN NEEDED, THERE'S DIFFERENT ALERTS SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT.
OR IF SOMEONE COMES TO THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE KEY FOB IS OR THEN IT WOULD ALERT THE PERSON, HEY THEY WOULD SEE WHO'S THERE AND THEN THEY WOULD LATER LET THEM IN OR NOT, OR THERE'D BE A KEY CODE.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THERE TO CAN'T GET IN, THEN WHOEVER'S. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THEY CAN SEE WHY THEY'RE THERE IF THERE'S BEST TO BE THERE.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GETTING INTO ANOTHER'S ZONING ISSUE THAT WE'D HAVE TO PICK UP HERE.
THANKS FOR SHOWING THE TREES AND THE HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ENVISIONING DOWN THERE.
ACTUALLY, THIS COULD BE A SERVICE TO THE AREA.
WE HAVE TROUBLES WITH PARKING IN THE CITY, PEOPLE PARKING THEIR WORK VEHICLES.
THIS GIVES THEM ANOTHER PLACE TO PARK THEIR PLUMBING TRUCK, THEIR ASPHALT CEILING TRUCK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
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THIS MAY HELP, IT'S PROBABLY WILL HELP THE CITY TO [OVERLAPPING].>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I KNOW RVS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IS A PROBLEM AND ON STREETS AND YOUR EYE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS THAT CAN'T FIND A PLACE THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE OR THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE WHERE THEY WANT TO STORE ALL THEIR STUFF INSIDE, SO THIS DEFINITELY WILL HELP WITH THAT.
>> YEAH. WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND SOON AS HOW YOU REALLY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON THERE WITH THAT MAJOR ENGINEERING AND RECLAIMING GOING THROUGH FEDERAL REVIEW.
THIS SEEMS TO BE ABOUT THE BEST USE AT THIS TIME.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED KEY THOUGHT BEING TO GET IN AND SO FORTH.
IS THIS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY A PIPE BOMB MONTH SERVICE WHERE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE COME IN EVERY DAY OR MAYBE PARK OVER THE WEEKEND.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE REGULAR CLIENT TALE OF THE FACILITY?
>> YEAH. I BELIEVE THE STRUCTURES IT'LL BE MONTHLY AS FAR AS HOW THEY PAY.
THE FREQUENCY OF THEM VISITING THE SITE REALLY DEPENDS ON THE VEHICLE.
IF IT'S BUSINESS-RELATED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE OFTEN IF IT'S AN RV, MAYBE TAKE IT OUT ONCE A MONTH OR LESS.
>> THAT WAS MORE LOOKING AT [OVERLAPPING] SEEMS LIKE JUST PULL UP AND THEY'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO JUST PULL UP AND GO IN AND PAY LATER OR MAYBE THEY HAVE TO BE A SUBSCRIBER, A CUSTOMER USER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE MIGHT HAVE AN ON-SITE KIOSK THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BECOME A CUSTOMER ON-SITE OR AT LEAST ONLINE OR JUST STRICTLY ONLINE.
I'LL SEE IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS HERE, ASK A BACKUP IF NEEDED.
ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NO SPEAKERS AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM, SO COMMISSION I BRING IT BACK TO YOU MOTION OR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE VOTE.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW. COMMISSIONER ADAM?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I'VE SEEN IT FOR YEARS.
IT'S DOWN THE STREET FROM A BUSINESS THAT I OWN.
THE PROPERTY IT IS ADJACENT TO OTHER STORAGE BUSINESSES.
IT IS FULLY INDUSTRIAL, IT'S COMPLETELY WALLY AND UNTAMED AS MAXWELL HAS [LAUGHTER] DESCRIBED IT AND IT'S GOING TO NEED A LOT OF WORK AND KNOWING THAT IT'S IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE.
SO I HAVE GREAT COMFORT IN SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.
>> COMMISSIONED DON AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER OTT ON HIS ASSESSMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S TOUGH TO DO ANYTHING WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN A FLOOD PLAIN, AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH A WAY TO HANDLE THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT YOU MENTIONED IT HAD THE OPTION OF ZONING FOR MULTIFAMILY OR RESIDENT SOMETHING.
>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE MASTER PLAN OR THE CITY GOAL.
IT WAS URBAN DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE.
>> I DON'T THINK I'D WANT TO LIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. NO, THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER] I'M IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER OTT'S FEELINGS ON THIS.
>> YEAH, THEY COULD ALWAYS BUILD APARTMENTS OUT OF SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND THAT WOULD BLEND IN [LAUGHTER].
>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID BY THESE TWO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
MY CONCERN IS IT GETS LOADED UP WITH 18 WHEELERS AND IT GETS TO BE AN UGLY MASS BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEM AND THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE.
WHEREAS IF IT'S AN RV OR BOATS, THOSE OWNERS WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS, LOOK AFTER THEM.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW RUN-DOWN AND MESSY-LOOKING IT MIGHT BECOME. THANK YOU.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT GARLAND, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRADES PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR CITY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DRIVE TRUCKS AND HAVING AN OPTION FOR THAT,
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I THINK THERE IS A BUSINESS AND THAT'S NOT A BAD PLACE FOR AN 18 WHEELER.I DOUBT THAT YOU'D HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE CAB.
BUT THERE IS 18-WHEELERS STORAGE ON THAT STREET, WITHIN 100 YARDS AND THEY HAVE A TERMINAL THAT IS FULL OF THEM, AND NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT EVEN IF THEY HAD SOME 18-WHEELERS IN THERE IT WOULD BE FINE.
>> IF I CAN ASK MR. FISHER BACK UP.
DURING THE PRE-MEETING, I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT SIGNAGE, POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SIGNAGE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PARKING IN A FLOOD PLAIN?
>> YEAH. WE CAN ADD SIGNAGE AT THE EDGE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
>> ANYMORE DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER PARIS AND THEN COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> CHAIRMAN, MY QUESTION IS MORE AROUND THE SUP, SO I AGREE WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED IN TERMS OF ALL THAT'S BEEN CALLED OUT AND WHAT TO BE CONSIDERED, THE SUP REQUESTS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT AS 30 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? THEN THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 10 AND GIVEN THAT THE GDC RECO THE SUP, I'M THINKING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND BE SURE THAT WERE ALL UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE LANDING THERE.
>> I WAS THINKING JUST [OVERLAPPING].
>> JUST WANT TO HEAR A DISCUSSION?
>> YEAH. I WANT TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION AND I DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT I WANT TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION AS WELL.
>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AS FAR AS THE LENGTH OF TERM FOR THE SUP, I THINK 10 YEARS IS FAR TOO SHORT.
THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THIS.
I THINK THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH ON THE SHORT SIDE.
ANYTHING LESS THAN 20 YEARS, I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN SUPPORT IT.
IT HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 20 YEARS OR GREATER.
>> YES. IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER 5 IN OUR PROGRAM, IT SAYS THE GUIDE RECOMMENDS 25 YEARS APPLICANT.
>> I CUT YOUR MIC OFF BY MISTAKE. SORRY.
>> YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I SAID? [LAUGHTER] ANYWAY, THE GUIDE SAYS 20 TO 25 YEARS.
SO THEY'RE ONLY ASKING BASICALLY FOR FIVE EXTRA YEARS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEM WITH 30 YEARS. THANK YOU.
>> SOMEHOW WHEN PEOPLE DO IT RIGHT, HERE WE GO [NOISE].
ANY OTHER INPUT? I'M OKAY WITH WHAT IS UNDER STANDARD RECOMMENDATION IN 20-25 YEARS.
SEEING NO MORE DISCUSSION CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> WELL, IF THERE'S NO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THEY NEED TO ADD SIGNAGE FOR THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
>> THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FULL 30 YEARS?
>> I BELIEVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF SIGNAGE ALONG THE FLOODPLAIN THERE SO THE CLIENTELE WILL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO, AND IT'S FOR THE 30 YEARS.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS FOR THE DETAIL PLAN TWO, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT.
IT'S FOR THE SUP AND DETAIL PLAN.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS? OKAY. RECORD SHOW EVERYBODY'S IN CONCURRENCE.
[Items 3.c. & 3.d.]
WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO PARTER.CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION TO GERALD DEWITT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES NEW OR USED ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, 09_14 FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES, LEASING, AND REPAIR, USED.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1925 LAVON DRIVE.
ITEM 3D, CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF GERALD DEWITT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR ANIMAL'S MEAL SALES, NEW OR USED, ON PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, 09_14, FOR AUTOMOBILE USES, NEW OR USED.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SHANNON DEWEIT.
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>> I'M SHANNON DEWEIT 3501 [INAUDIBLE] 7508A2.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING GENERAL DEWITT AUTO SALES.
TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, MY DAD STARTED HIS FIRST BUSINESS IN GARLAND IN THE EARLY '70S ON MAIN STREET.
HE MOVED OUT TOWARD THE LOCATION HE IS NOW IN THE '80S.
I BELIEVE IN EARLY '90S THAT WAS A DAIRY QUEEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE SUP FOR.
IT WAS THE OLD DAIRY QUEEN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN HERE THIS LONG OR NOT, BUT IT WAS THE OLD DAIRY QUEEN BUILDING AND WE USE IT MAINLY FOR STORAGE. IT'S ALL IT IS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES OUT FRONT WHERE WE PUT CARS FOR SALE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE SIGNAGE, WE'RE NOT ASKING TO REMODEL OR ANYTHING.
THE FIRST SUP WE GOT WAS FOR FIVE YEARS AND THAT WAS IN 1994.
THE FOLLOWING TWO WERE FOR 10 YEARS EACH.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS IN JULY, WE ASK WHAT THEIR CRITERIA WAS? WHAT YEAR? WE DIDN'T FIT IN ANYTHING.
THEY SUGGESTED TO US TO ASK FOR A 20 YEAR.
SINCE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT AROUND US THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
THERE IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US ON, I GUESS IT'S EAST OF US, THEY'VE BUILT A SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO EXPAND OR ANYTHING.
THERE IS A PSYCHIC BUILDING THAT USED TO BE AN OLD INSURANCE BUILDING.
THEY PUT A PSYCHIC READER IN THERE TO THE SOUTH OF US.
WE OWN THAT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
TO THE NORTH OF US, WE OWN BOTH OF THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.
BEHIND US, THERE'S A CAR DEALERSHIP, THERE'S A MR. CHEAPO, THAT'S CHEAP SALES OF RETAIL.
THERE'S NOWHERE AROUND US TO DEVELOP.
THE REASON WE ASKED FOR A 20 YEAR, MY DAD MAY NOT BE HERE IN 20 YEARS, BUT MY BROTHER AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ON THE BUSINESS.
LETS SEE. AGAIN, THE LOCATION IS JUST FOR STORAGE.
WE KEEP OUR FILE STORAGE, TOWER STORAGE, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S MAINLY FOR PARKING AND STUFF.
I GUESS THAT'S IT. IF YOU-ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
>> DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS?
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY MY FAULT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SAID YOU OWN PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THAT'S THE VACANT ONE NOW?
>> YEAH, IT IS THE VACANT ONE. YEAH, WE HAVE.
WHEN HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY,923 AND 925 WAS TOGETHER; 923 WAS A VACANT LOT NEXT DAIRY QUEEN AND IT HAD INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
THERE'S NO ZONING REQUEST FOR IT BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY.
WHAT WE DO, WE JUST PARKED CARS ON IT.
THERE'S NO BUILDING, NO NOTHING ON IT, EXCEPT WE'VE GOT A FENCE ON IT AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. I SEE NO QUESTIONS. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE NEED YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER OTT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN APPROVE THIS.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED FOR THE 20 YEARS.
WE HAVE A MOTION. AGAIN, COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> THAT INCLUDES THE DETAILED PLAN.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR 20 YEARS, THE SUP AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE DETAIL PLAN. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[Items 3.e. & 3.f.]
AGAIN, ANOTHER TWO PARTNERS.3E, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF R-DELTA ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION ON A PROPERTY ZONE IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2900 AND 3180 ELM GROVE ROAD.
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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN THIS ITEM OR SHOULD I ASK THE COMMISSION IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [LAUGHTER]>> NAME AND ADDRESS, NAME, AND TOWN.
>> I'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MINUTES, I PROMISE.
MY NAME IS FRANK POLMAR WITH R-DELTA ENGINEERS, OUR ADDRESS IS 618 MAIN STREET, HERE IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND.
ON BEHALF GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT, WE REQUEST APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR EXPANSION OF ELECTRIC SUBSTATION FACILITIES ON A 3.737 ACRE TRACT LAND ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED WITH THE EXISTING GP&L AND ELM GROVE SUBSTATION, CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER AN EXISTING SPECIAL USE PROVISION APPROVED IN 2008.
LOT 2, BLOCK 1 AND THE ELM GROVE ADDITIONAL WILL BE REPLOTTED TO REFLECT THE PROPOSED SUBSTATION EXPANSION AFTER APPROVAL OF OUR SUP REQUEST.
EXISTING LAND USE AT THIS PROPERTY CONSISTS OF HIGH-VOLTAGE SUBSTATION FACILITIES THAT THEN CONNECT THE ADJACENT EXISTING ENCORE ELM GROVE SUBSTATION TO GP&L TRANSMISSION LINES.
THE ENCORE SUBSTATION OPERATES ON AN EXISTING SUP.
EXPANSION OF THE GP&L ELM GROVE SUBSTATION IS NECESSARY TO SERVE THE RAYBURN ELECTRIC FARMERS ELECTRIC COTTONWOOD CREEK SUBSTATION PROPOSED ON ADJACENT PROPERTY.
SUP WAS APPROVED FOR THE COTTONWOOD CREEK SUBSTATION PROJECT IN FEBRUARY, OF 2021.
EXPANSION OF THE GP&L ELM GROVE SUBSTATION WILL GENERALLY INCLUDE CIVIL SIDE IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPING, STEEL STRUCTURES, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, AND CONDUCTORS, AND ONE NEW MODULAR EQUIPMENT AND CLOSURE, HOUSING PROTECTION, CONTROL, AND COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. THESE SUBSTATION EXPANSE AND COMPONENTS WILL GENERALLY BE SIMILAR IN CHARACTER TO THE EXISTING ELM GROVE SUBSTATION.
THE NEW EQUIPMENT AND CLOSED ONE WILL INCLUDE A PREFABRICATED METAL CLAD UNIT WITH A MAXIMUM ROOF HEIGHT OF APPROXIMATELY 13 FEET.
MODULAR EQUIPMENT CLOSURE IS NOT A BUILDING AND THE TYPICAL SAND SAYS IT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR HABITATION.
RATHER, IT'S AN ENCLOSURE TO PROVIDE SHELTER AND CLIMATE CONTROL TO THE CRITICAL PROTECTION AND CONTROL SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT CONTAINED WITHIN.
LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF LARGE SHRUBS AND TREES ON THE ORIGINAL SUBSTATION SITE TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ITS ORIGINAL SUP REQUIREMENTS.
LANDSCAPING ADDITIONS FOR THE SITE EXPANSION WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY OF GARLAND STANDARDS AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ELM GROVE SUBSTATION AS SUP.
THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND IT'LL BE REPLACED AND EXPANDED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UPON COMPLETION OF THE SUBSTATION EXPANSION, THE SUBSTATION FACILITIES [NOISE] WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNMANNED, AND WILL BE OPERATED REMOTELY VIA SCADA SYSTEMS. SITE VISITS ARE ESTIMATED LESS THAN TWO PER MONTH FOR THE PURPOSES OF INSPECTION, MAINTENANCE, AND INCIDENT RESPONSE. THAT'S IT.
>> IT'S A SHAME HAD WE CUT YOU OFF AND YOU DIDN'T GET TO DO THAT.
[LAUGHTER] ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
>> I'LL SEE IN THE AUDIENCE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON A POWER SUBSTATION.
I SEE NO CLAMORING OF PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK ON A SUBSTATION. COMMISSIONERS?
>> YES, SIR. I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.
>> THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE SUP AND DETAILED PLAN, FOR THE RECORD.
>> YEAH, IT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON MY BOARD.
>> YEAH, YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. GO AHEAD.
ON SECONDS AND MOTIONS, YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO APPROVE THE SUP AND DETAILED PLAN. SEE NO DISCUSSION.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT TOO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
>> TWO MORE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. AGAIN, A PAIR.
[Items 3.g. & 3.h.]
3G, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF AMIR PATEL REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION EXTENSION FOR A HOTEL, MOTEL LIMITED SERVICES ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION 96-03 FOR A HOTEL MOTEL USE.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3645 LEON.
ITEM 3H, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF AMIR PATEL REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A HOTEL, MOTEL LIMITED SERVICES ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION 9608 FOR A HOTEL MOTEL USE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3645.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? [NOISE]
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS AMAR PATEL, 2074 AZALEA TRL IRVING, TEXAS 75063.
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I WANTED TO START OFF BY GIVING A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND ON THIS HOTEL.THE HOTEL IS PART OF THE WINDHAM HOTEL GROUP, WHICH IS A FRANCHISOR BASED IN NEW JERSEY.
IT IS FLAGGED BY THE NAME OF DAYS AND HAS SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 1998.
THIS PROPERTY GOT AN SUP IN 1995.
ULTIMATELY, THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT AND OPENED ITS DOORS ON VALENTINE'S DAY, 1998.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN OPENED FOR A LITTLE OVER 23 YEARS.
WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST A RENEWAL OF OUR SUP.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS FOR DISCUSSION.
IT'S BEEN OWNED AND [NOISE] MANAGED BY THE SAME OWNERSHIP GROUP SINCE THE PROPERTY OPENED.
I'M HIS SON SO I'VE BEEN OVERSEEING THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2006.
THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS CLOSED.
DURING THE STORMS IN FEBRUARY, [NOISE] WE HAD A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM BUST AND ULTIMATELY FLOODED A GOOD CHUNK OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY HAS UNDERGONE EXTENSIVE RENOVATION ON THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
WE'VE ESSENTIALLY CREATED A BRAND NEW PROPERTY ON THE INSIDE, INJECTED $700,000 INTO THIS PROPERTY.
WE OPENED THE DOORS 25 ROOMS TWO WEEKS AGO.
IN TWO WEEKS WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE REST OF THE HOTEL.
TO THAT POINT, THE PROPERTY IS 48 UNITS.
HALF OF THE ROOMS ARE KINGS, HALF OF THE ROOMS ARE QUEENS.
THE PROPERTY HAS INTERIOR CORRIDOR AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE, WHERE WE HAD AN ISSUE OVER THE LAST YEAR SINCE COVID STARTED. PUBLIC AREA AMENITIES.
WE HAVE OUTDOOR POOL, FITNESS CENTER, GUEST LAUNDRY, AND BUSINESS CENTER.
IN 1997, '98, THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT FOR $2 MILLION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY FASCINATING AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD NOT BE LOST.
THE ONSITE MANAGER, SHE'S RIGHT THERE, KAYLA.
SHE'S ALSO A 15 PERCENT OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
SHE MANAGES PROPERTY SINCE 1998.
SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR 23 YEARS.
WE HAVE THREE HOUSEKEEPERS AT THIS PROPERTY.
ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND THAT HAVE BEEN RESPECTIVELY THERE FOR 10, 12, AND 18 YEARS.
THIS STAFF HAS BEEN AT THIS PROPERTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND THE OWNERSHIP GROUP.
TO THAT POINT, IT IS A FAMILY CULTURE PROPERTY.
A 100 PERCENT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN CITY OF GARLAND RESIDENTS.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT I'M NOT EMPLOYED BY THIS PROPERTY.
SOMETHING THAT ALSO IS IMPORTANT IS THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN WELL MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT ITS TENURE, OVER THE LAST 23 YEARS SINCE IT'S OPEN.
IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE RECORDS, COURT COMPLIANCE HAS LITTLE TO NO ISSUES AT THIS PROPERTY.
IF IT DID HAVE ANY ISSUES, WE'VE SOLVED THEM RIGHT AWAY.
INCLUSIVE THE $700,000 WE JUST RECENTLY PUT IN TO OPEN THIS PROPERTY BACKUP.
WE'VE INJECTED $1.9 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THAT INCLUDES TWO ROOF PLACEMENTS.
WE'VE RENOVATED THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY TWO TIMES.
THE MOST RECENT I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE ADDED A PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THE BUILDING, EXTERIOR LED LIGHTING, AS WELL AS WE PAINTED THE EXTERIOR.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE SECOND TIME WE PAINTED THE EXTERIOR.
AS I MENTIONED, WE JUST RENOVATED THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ALSO RENOVATED THE PROPERTY IN 2008, AND IN 2016, THOSE ARE FULL GUT JOBS, ALL NEW FURNITURE, ETC.
GOING BACK TO THE INTERIOR CORRIDOR COMPONENT, IN THIS AREA THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT HAS INTERIOR CORRIDOR.
WHEN COVID STARTED, WE HAD A LOT OF STRUGGLES AND THE CHIEF CAN PROBABLY ATTEST TO THAT.
AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ARE INTERIOR, WE HAD AN INFLUX OF HOMELESS POPULATION THAT WOULD RESIDE IN OUR PROPERTY.
IT WAS HARD TO GET PEOPLE OUT.
WE TRIED TO GET ASSISTANCE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AT THAT TIME THE HOMELESS POPULATION JUST WOULDN'T REALLY LISTEN.
THEY DIDN'T CARE IF THEY WENT TO JAIL.
THEY DIDN'T CARE REALLY ABOUT THEIR LIVES AT THAT MOMENT, IN MY OPINION.
WE PUT ARMED SECURITY AT THIS PROPERTY.
WE'VE SPENT PROBABLY ABOUT $50,000 ON SECURITY ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 12 HOURS A DAY EVERY SINGLE EVENING AND I
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MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE SECURITY IS IMPORTANT IN THIS PROPERTY AND IT IS AN ECONOMY HOTEL, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME BAD ELEMENTS AT THIS PROPERTY.BUT I THINK WE'VE SHOWN IN THE PAST OUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS OUR STAFF.
AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE TENURE OF EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER AT OUR PROPERTY.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT PIECE OF THE STORY BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES THAT THIS IS AN ECONOMY HOTEL, DOES LURE IN BAD, A MIX OF CLIENTELE.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T.
OVER THE LAST YEAR IT HAS, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE.
TO GIVE YOU SOME ECONOMICS, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
WE'VE HISTORICALLY RAN 73 PERCENT OCCUPANCY, OUR AVERAGE DAILY RATE ON THE HOTEL, ROH, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT, IS $62.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN OUR RATE ONLINE IS $62.
ONLINE RACK RATES IS TYPICALLY $79 ON WEEKDAYS, $89 ON WEEKENDS.
TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHIC MIX.
I THINK CHAIRMAN ROBERTS MENTIONED THIS.
THERE IS A LOT OF CLIENTELE THAT COMES INTO THIS PROPERTY FROM INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES IN OUR AREA.
OVER THAT 23 YEAR PERIOD, I WOULD SAY 50 PERCENT OF OUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN INDUSTRIAL CORPORATE GROUP NEGOTIATED RATES.
THERE'S A LOT OF SPORTING FACILITIES IN OUR AREA THAT WE CATER TO.
THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT IS TRANSIENT BUSINESS.
WHEN YOU'RE A FRANCHISE, YOU'RE ONLINE, YOU'RE ON THEIR WEBSITE, YOU'RE ON HOTELS.COM, THAT'S WHAT THAT BUSINESS IS COMING FROM AND 15 PERCENT IS LOCAL WALK-IN.
TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS FOR WHAT THIS PROPERTY HAS ACHIEVED SINCE 1998 FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.
WE'VE CONTRIBUTED $830,000 IN PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS, $850,000 IN CITY OCCUPANCY TAX DOLLARS THAT I KNOW DOES A LOT FOR THE CITY.
WE'VE SPENT A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION IN PAYROLL COSTS.
AGAIN, THAT'S ALL PAYROLL TO CITY OF GARLAND RESIDENTS.
I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED, I'LL GET TO THIS IN THE END, ON THE FIVE YEARS OF SUP RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF, BUT THIS PROPERTY HAS $1.2 MILLION OF DEBT ON IT.
IN FIVE YEARS, THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE PAID.
I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE 23 YEAR MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE'VE DONATED TO VARIOUS LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY.
THAT ALSO SHOULD NOT GET LOST THAT WE ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE EXTERIOR, IT'S NOT THE CURRENT PICTURE.
THERE WAS STILL SOME CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL OUTSIDE, SO I TOOK ONE OF THE OLDER PICTURES.
BUT AS FAR AS THE COLOR SCHEME, ETC, THIS WAS A PICTURE FROM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
IT GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE FROM THE EXTERIOR.
THIS IS SOME OF THE CURRENT RENOVATIONS THAT WE JUST COMPLETED.
ON THE LEFT IS A REGISTRATION DESK.
THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS THE LOBBY SITTING AREA, AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, IT'S THE HALLWAY.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE GUEST ROOM PICTURES.
ON THE LEFT IS A KING SUITE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS A QUEEN SUIT, AND ON THE RIGHT IS OUR TYPICAL BATHROOM.
FINALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE REQUESTING 40 YEARS OF SUP APPROVAL.
I THINK THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE.
BUT THE FIVE YEARS THAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED IS A LITTLE BIT DISCOMFORTING FOR US.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT WITH THAT AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, SIR. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM, SO COMMISSIONERS, MOTION OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSE?
>> I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS WITHIN OUR COMMISSION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHOEVER WANTS TO SECOND, YOU PUNCH THAT BUTTON AND SAY SECOND.
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>> I HEARD THE SECOND [LAUGHTER] FROM COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE. COMMISSIONER DALTON?
>> EVEN BEFORE HEARING HIS PRESENTATION, THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD HAVE APPROVED A FIVE-YEAR SUP.
THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF FUTURE LEASES OF MY PIE OR DAISY, OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND.
BUT THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE TO NEED A HOTEL IN THAT AREA, AND THAT IS A GOOD LOCATION.
I'VE SEEN MANY HOTELS GO UP IN VERY STRANGE LOCATIONS AND THEY'RE DOING JUST FINE.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO GIVE THEM LESS THAN AT LEAST 25 YEARS.
>> I THINK THAT'S MY FEELING, NO LESS THAN THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER LUCHT, AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
>> SO THERE'S ANOTHER HOTEL WITH THEIR SUP EXPIRING IN 2029, WHICH IS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AWAY.
I WOULD RATHER SEE 10-15 YEARS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO REDEVELOP THAT AREA.
I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE LANDSCAPING AND AESTHETICS GOING ON ALONG GARLAND ROAD, WHICH I DON'T SEE IN THE CURRENT PLAN.
I THINK THAT IF THEY HAVE TO COME BACK, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM IN THAT DIRECTION ONCE THAT AREA IS MORE DEVELOPED.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE?
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK 25 OR 30 YEARS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE GIVEN WHAT THEY HAVE AND ARE PUTTING INTO THIS FACILITY.
FIVE OR 10 YEARS IS NOT NEARLY LONG ENOUGH. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IN BUSINESS TERMS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF MORTGAGE THEY HAVE ON IT NOW, BUT IF THEY EVER GO TO RENEGOTIATE TO MAYBE GET A LOWER RATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANY BANK WOULD LOOK AT THAT FIVE YEARS AND SAY, NO.
BUSINESS LOANS ARE AT LEAST 15 YEARS, SO I LIKE THE 20, 25 YEARS ROUTE TOO.
THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS, AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, AND IT'S BEEN WORKING THERE, AND IT IS AN INDOOR CORRIDOR HOTEL.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THE OTHER TWO ARE EXTERIOR CORRIDORS, SO THIS MAKES IT UPSCALE TO THOSE TWO IN TERMS OF USABILITY.
EVEN IF THIS AREA IS REDEVELOPED, WHETHER THERE ARE SOME OFFICES, WHETHER THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER SOME SHOPPING, THEY'LL STILL BE A NEED FOR HOTELS.
MAYBE GUESTS COMING TO STAY AT SOMEBODY'S PLACE OR SUPPLIERS STAYING TO SELL TO BUSINESSES AND STUFF, SO I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.
I COULD GO ALONG WITH THE MOTION FOR A LONGER TIME. COMMISSIONER ROSE?
>> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS PRESENTED WITH AN SUP FOR 30 YEARS.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE SUP AND A DETAILED PLAN.
>> DO I HEAR SHOUT OUT FOR THE SECOND? IS IT GOING TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND? MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. COMMISSIONER OTT?
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED WITH A 25 YEAR SUP.
>> MOTION FOR THE SUP FOR 25 YEARS AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAIL PLAN, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, THE MOTION IS FOR AN SUP OF 25 YEARS AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAIL PLAN. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 6-1,
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WITH COMMISSIONER LUCHT IN OPPOSITION.>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, SO UNTIL OUR MEETING WHICH IS ON A DIFFERENT DAY, IT'LL BE OCTOBER 14TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.
IF YOU COME HERE MONDAY, IT'S GOING TO BE AN EMPTY ROOM, SO OCTOBER 14TH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
UNTIL THAT TIME, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.