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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2021 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. WE WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR AGENDA ITEM ONE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK

[1. Public Comments on Work Session Items]

SESSION ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. AND LOOKING AROUND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, EVERYBODY SITTING HERE WORKS HERE. SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON THE WORK SESSION ITEM. THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE TWO IS CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[2. Consider the Consent Agenda]

THIS WOULD BE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REQUESTS TO HAVE ANY ITEMS PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT I THINK IF YOU WANT TO, I THINK THERE'S ONE ITEM THAT MAY DESERVE TO BE PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. TWO ITEMS, ACTUALLY.

ONE FOR FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER SEVEN JUST FOR A SEPARATE RECOGNITION AND DISCUSSION AND VOTE, WHICH IS REGARDING THE NAMING OF THE COURTHOUSE AFTER BRAD NEIGHBOR.

AND I THINK IT'S.

AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ON IT ACTUALLY WOULD PROBABLY DISCUSS TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE REGARDING THE COUNCIL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

OK. OK.

AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST TOO SOON TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT TONIGHT AS OPPOSED TO TOMORROW, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

GO AHEAD. COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST, YOU KNOW, I WAS A SOLE VOTE FOR OPTION A. AT THE TIME, I HAD INDICATED THAT THAT WAS KIND OF OK WITH EITHER, BUT ON FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND I APOLOGIZE.

OBVIOUSLY, I COULDN'T DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU IN THE INTERIM.

BUT BUT I DO PRETTY STRONGLY FEEL THAT OPTION A WOULD BE THE RIGHT ANSWER, AND I DON'T EXPECT ANY OF YOU ALL TO AGREE WITH ME, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT MY THOUGHTS ON THE RECORD ON THAT. THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THAT UNDER OPTION A STAFF ESTIMATES THAT 13,309 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THEIR DISTRICT CHANGED UNDER OPTION B, 16,912 PEOPLE WOULD CHANGE THEIR DISTRICTS. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY 25 PERCENT MORE PEOPLE END UP HAVING TO CHANGE THEIR DISTRICTS AS A RESULT OF GOING WITH OPTION B.

AND TO ME, IT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL FOR PEOPLE WHEN WE CHANGE THEIR DISTRICT, WHEN WE MOVE THEM AROUND AND CHANGE THEIR REPRESENTATION.

AND I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY STRONG REASON TO PUT THESE PEOPLE THROUGH THAT.

I ALSO ASKED STAFF TO PROVIDE ME WITH MAPS OF THE LAST SEVERAL COUNCIL DISTRICT CHANGES, WHICH THEY DID FOR THE CHANGES IN 2001, 2005, AND 2011.

AND SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE BEING CHANGED ARE BASICALLY BEING FLIPPED AROUND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PARTICULARLY FAIR TO THEM.

THEY WERE MOVED FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER IN 2011, AND NOW THEY'RE BEING MOVED BACK IN 2021.

AND, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENCY, I THINK MATTERS IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION FOR THESE FOLKS.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT'S UNNECESSARY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AND I KNOW THERE WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WAS MADE THAT SOMEHOW THE CLEANER LINES ON THE MAP WERE MORE APPROPRIATE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ACCUSATION OF GERRYMANDERING WITH RESPECT TO THIS.

GERRYMANDERING IS WHEN YOU DRAW LINES AND YOU DRAW THESE CRAZY DISTRICTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ACHIEVING A PARTICULAR POLITICAL RESULT.

AND THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE.

THERE'S BEEN NO ALLEGATION OF THAT HAPPENING IN THE PAST.

THERE'S BEEN NO ALLEGATION OF US DOING THAT NOW.

WE'VE OPERATED ESSENTIALLY CLEARLY JUST BY CENSUS TRACKS AND BY NEED.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE CORRECTING ANYTHING.

AND IN FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMUNITIES, IN PEOPLE WHO ARE PUT TOGETHER, WE'RE ACTUALLY SPLITTING SOME OF THEM APART.

YOU KNOW, AND IN SOME OF IT IS UNAVOIDABLE.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE FOLKS IN ROCK CREEK, YOU KNOW, JUST BY VIRTUE OF A LINE THAT MAY MAKE COUNCIL EASIER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOUR OWN DISTRICT IS, YOU KNOW, LYING DOWN GARLAND AVENUE, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO WHOSE CLOSEST NEIGHBORS ARE ACTUALLY ACROSS

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GARLAND AVENUE AND NOT ACROSS THE CREEK AND UP ACROSS CENTRAL PARK.

AND SO WE'RE MOVING THEM AWAY FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES, WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON WITH THE FOLKS WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

SO I'VE GOT SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.

I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IF WE DID GO WITH OPTION B, THE CONCERNS THAT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED ABOUT GETTING TOO MANY OF THESE VERY OLD APARTMENT COMPLEXES, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE COMPLEXES AND THOSE PEOPLE.

I'VE REPRESENTED THEM FOR MY ENTIRE TIME ON.

COUNCIL AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, COUNCIL.

I DO INTEND TO PULL THIS TOMORROW AND VOTE NO ON IT, AND I HOPE THAT FOUR OF YOU WILL JOIN ME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS THAT? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

THANK YOU.

OK. SO ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT.

OK. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE WRITTEN BRIEFINGS.

[3. Written Briefings]

3A, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SCHEDULE FOR MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE HELD IN CALENDAR YEAR 2022 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ITEM 3B, PROJECT SPECIFIC AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY FOR DUCK CREEK, CENTRAL TRAIL, SEGMENT TWO.

ITEM 3C RENAMING OF MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING.

ITEM 3D, REDUCTION OF TMPA DECOMMISSIONING RESERVE ACCOUNT.

AND ITEM 3E, TXDOT IMPAIRED DRIVING MOBILIZATION GRANT 2022.

OK, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR VERBAL BRIEFINGS.

[4A. COVID-19 Briefing]

FIRST UP IS ITEM 4A, COVID 19 BRIEFING.

JASON? MISTIE? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WELL, YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT ON MY SCREEN, IT CONFUSES ME EVERY TIME.

I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU ALL MET, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE BRIEFED YOU ALL, THE DOWNWARD TREND IN CASES CONTINUES.

AGAIN, WE'VE SURPASSED 39,000 TOTAL CASES.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS LAST WEEK THAT WE SURPASSED 39 THOUSAND.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE CONSIDERED RECOVERED.

UNFORTUNATELY, DEATHS DO CONTINUE TO TICK UP, AND THEY ARE ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY UNVACCINATED INDIVIDUALS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO CONTINUE TO HAVE DEATH.

DEATH REPORTS TRICKLE IN.

THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE CASES IS AT 361.

AND I WILL NOTE AND IT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY EVIDENT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPH HERE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BACK TO PRE DELTA WAVE LEVELS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

I MEAN, IT'S GOOD THAT THE ACTIVE CASES ARE DOWN TO PRE DELTA LEVELS.

BUT I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY COVID IS STILL ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AT MUCH LOWER LEVELS, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT IT IS STILL ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST THAT THE THREAT IS ENTIRELY GONE.

STAFF IMPACTS LARGELY FOLLOW THE SAME TREND WITH AS THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE CURRENTLY, AS OF, I GUESS, FRIDAY HAD NINE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OUT DUE TO COVID, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

AS YOU SEE ON THE THE GRAPH THAT WE HAVE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE IT TRENDS VERY SIMILAR TO THE NUMBER OF CASES.

VACCINES ADMINISTERED, WE SURPASSED 42 THOUSAND TOTAL VACCINES ADMINISTERED.

NOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FIRST SECOND THIRD DOSES.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROUD OF THAT NUMBER.

IT'S TAKING A LOT OF WORK TO GET THERE AND THERE'S MUCH WORK LEFT TO DO.

BUT IT'S A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF VACCINES THAT WE AS AN ORGANIZATION, I DON'T JUST CONSIDER THAT A SUCCESS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S A SUCCESS FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

WANTED TO SHOW YOU JUST QUICKLY THE THIS IS A FLOW CHART THAT CAME OFF THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES WEB PAGE TO HELP MAKE BETTER SENSE OF THE ADULT DOSES.

AND I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE DOSE ONE

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AND TWO. I THINK EVERYBODY'S FOR BOTH MODERNA AND PFIZER.

EVERYBODY'S FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL DOSE, WHICH IS A FULL DOSE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED WITHIN TWENTY EIGHT DAYS OF THE SECOND DOSE.

THE MAIN THING I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THE MIXING AND MATCHING OF BOOSTER DOSES.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT INITIAL SERIES YOU GOT, WHETHER IT WAS THE TWO SERIES OF MODERNA AND PFIZER OR THE ADDITIONAL DOSE OR THE SINGLE DOSE OF JOHNSON AND JOHNSON, THE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS DO ALLOW YOU TO SORT OF MIX AND MATCH.

YOU CAN CHOOSE WHATEVER BOOSTER DOSE YOU WANT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE CHART.

SO WE'LL LINK THIS ON OUR WEB PAGE.

IF ANY OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC HAS ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL QUICKLY.

VACCINE EVENTS WE WENT TO OUR FIRST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TWO SCHOOLS TODAY VACCINATED A TOTAL OF, I BELIEVE, ABOUT 120 KIDDOS AND A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ADULTS AS WELL.

WE'LL BE DOING THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

WE'RE GOING TO TWO SCHOOLS A DAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

THEN WE HAVE THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING AND THEN WE GO BACK TO EACH ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS FOR THE SECOND DOSES.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER POP UP EVENTS ON THE CALENDAR AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A SHORT LIST OF RECENT POP UP EVENTS AND THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS VACCINATED AND THEN THE DRIVE THRU TESTING SITE WE DRIVE THROUGH TESTING AND VACCINATION SITE.

OF COURSE, WE TALK TO YOU ALL.

I GUESS IT'S BEEN SEVERAL WEEKS NOW SINCE WE HAD WE SET THIS SIDE UP TO BE CAPABLE TO PROVIDE IMMUNIZATIONS AND POTENTIALLY TESTING BASED ON THE CURRENT AND FOR SEEING DEMAND.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE NEED TO OPEN THE SITE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO DISASSEMBLE IT JUST YET.

WE MAY WAIT A FEW MORE WEEKS TO MAKE THAT CALL.

BUT AT THE MOMENT, AGAIN, BASED ON THE DEMAND THAT WE SEE IN THE COMMUNITY, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO OPEN THAT SITE.

WE THINK WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF DEMAND IN TERMS OF IMMUNIZATIONS AT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH CLINIC.

AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISTIE.

JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THE HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR BOTH TRAUMA SERVICE AREA E, WHICH IS THE NORTH TEXAS AREA AND THEN DALLAS COUNTY, SO AGAIN ON THE UPPER RIGHT IS THE OUTLINE OF THE REGIONS IN CASE YOU NEED THAT.

AND THEN THE HIGH NUMBER WAS BACK IN JANUARY.

SO TODAY, TRAUMA SERVICE AREA E HAD 713 COVID PATIENTS HOSPITALIZED, WHICH IS A RATE OF 5.09 PERCENT. AND THEN DOWN BELOW, YOU CAN SEE THE DALLAS COUNTY NUMBERS REPORTING 227 TODAY AT A RATE OF 4.45 PERCENT, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST.

SO AGAIN, THAT TREND LOOKS TO BE GOING DOWN EVERY TIME WE REPORT TO LOOK AT THIS REGIONALLY. THE LAST REPORT, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY SIX COUNTIES THAT WERE ABOVE THE 15 PERCENT MARK AND ONLY FIVE BELOW THE 10 PERCENT MARK.

COMPARING TODAY'S NUMBERS, WE HAVE ZERO COUNTIES THAT ARE AT OR ABOVE THE 15 PERCENT MARK AND 16 THAT ARE UNDER 10 PERCENT, WITH TWO OF THOSE BEING ZERO.

SO REALLY GOOD NUMBERS FOR THE REGION.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE THIS IS THE SAME TABLE.

WE JUST CONTINUE TO ADD THE NUMBERS RELATIVE TO THE POSITIVE CASES FOR THE COUNTY, BUT THEN ALSO THE NUMBER OF A PERCENTAGE OF INPATIENTS WITH COVID AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF HOSPITAL CAPACITY WITH COVID.

SO TODAY NUMBERS TOP RIGHT CORNER 227 AGAIN AND 4.45 FOR THE CAPACITY.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

VERY GOOD. HERE WE GO.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR CONTINUING OUTSTANDING WORK YOU'RE DOING.

APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TEAMS, JASON, JUST ON THE POP UP SCREENS, A COUPLE OF SCREENS BACK, YOU HAD THE SITES LISTED THERE AND I'M JUST, YEAH, THEY'RE OK.

AND YOU DID.

WE DID MONTCLAIR STATE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS, ANY FEEDBACK? WE DID THEM IN OCTOBER.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY RANGE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE EXACT.

WHAT WAS THE ACTIVITY LEVEL THERE? I DIDN'T SEE THEM LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

SIR, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DID DO THEM IN OCTOBER.

YES, THEM. I CAN EMAIL THEM.

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WE CAN GET THOSE RESULTS TO YOU.

I'M SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO.

I DON'T WANT TO DARE GO OFF MEMORY BECAUSE I WILL GIVE YOU A WRONG ANSWER.

OK, OK, WOULD YOU GET ME THOSE NUMBERS? I'LL BE GLAD TO. YES, SIR.

OK. OK. AND ALSO, IN ADDITION TO A COVID, I KNOW THAT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALSO GOT FLU SHOTS THAT SAME VENUE.

SO CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON BOTH OF THOSE? YES, SIR, WE CAN DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. JASON, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKING AS THE AS WE'RE MOVING INTO VACCINATING THE YOUNGER CHILDREN.

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY INCIDENCE OF THIS SEVERE SIDE EFFECT, WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AN ALARMING REACTION AMONG THE CHILDREN IN THE YOUNGER AGE RANGE IN WHAT YOU'VE ADMINISTERED TO DATE? AND HOW I SEE DIANA SHAKING HER HEAD? SEVERE REACTION? NO, WE HAVE HAD SOME SOME INFORMAL FOLLOW UP OF SORE ARMS. IN SOME OF THOSE CASES, THOUGH, THEY WERE KIDDOS THAT GOT BOTH COVID AND FLU.

EITHER ONE OF THOSE COULD CAUSE SORE ARMS, BUT NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

WHAT YOU WOULD TEND TO EXPECT BASED ON CDC GUIDANCE, CERTAINLY NOTHING SEVERE.

OK, THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

[4B. Downtown Marketing Efforts]

AND THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO ITEM 4B, DOWNTOWN MARKETING EFFORTS.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING,. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WERE ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION OF WHAT THE STAFF'S EFFORTS HAVE BEEN IN REGARDS TO BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, AND SO NORMALLY LETICIA MCNATT WOULD BE DELIVERING THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION.

SO YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE B TEAM TONIGHT.

IF I CAN'T GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED, LET ME KNOW.

SHE'S ON MATERNITY LEAVE, SO WE GAVE HER A COUPLE OF DAYS OFF, SO I'LL DO MY BEST.

SO AND I'LL START OUT BY SAYING THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING EFFORT BY A LOT OF DIVISIONS. SO YOU'VE GOT THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.

YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN HAVING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE GOT THE ART CENTER, WE'VE GOT THE LIBRARIES THAT WE WORK WITH, WE'VE GOT THE MUSEUM, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PARTNERS THAT HELP US IN THIS ENDEAVOR.

AND ALSO EXTREMELY IMPORTANTLY, IS THE ROLE THAT PMR HAS ANY TIME THAT THERE'S AN IDEA OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A MARKETING PIECE OR SOME KIND OF CAMPAIGN, THEY OBVIOUSLY DO AMAZING WORK.

AND SO WE'RE SUPER, SUPER FORTUNATE TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS INFORMATION IN YOUR POCKET, AND IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE OVERWHELMING. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT THAT MEANS THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON THAT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ARE DOING SO.

A LOT OF THESE WILL BE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE KIND OF PRE-COVID DURING COVID, THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW AND THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE FUTURE.

WE LEARNED SOME THINGS THAT WORKED REALLY WELL THAT WE'LL CONTINUE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FAIR FARE ON THE SQUARE THAT WAS KIND OF DONE DURING THE TIME THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE FAIR WAS CANCELED.

SO THE IDEA CAME UP WAS, HEY, LET'S LET OUR RESTAURANTS DO SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TAKE OUTSIDE AND DO SAFELY ON THE SQUARE.

AND IT TURNS OUT IT'S POPULAR ENOUGH WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ANYWAY.

SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE REALLY NEAT.

THIRSTY THIRD THURSDAYS.

THOSE ARE REALLY POPULAR.

WE'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF THESE MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH PMR ON HAVE BEEN AWARD WINNERS AT VARIOUS THINGS.

SO CVB HAS BROUGHT HOME NO LESS THAN SEVEN AWARDS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT GET RECOGNIZED.

SO ON YOUR TOP LEFT, YOU'LL SEE WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART, WHERE WE HAD A FRIDA KAHLO EXHIBIT TO WHERE THEY WERE MARKETING AND USING THE 506 ART TO HELP MARKET THEIR EXHIBIT AT THE DALLAS MUSEUM.

THE MOST RECENT ONE, WE DID ANOTHER ONE WITH THE VAN GOGH EXHIBIT.

WE DID A LOT OF THINGS DURING COVID TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD GET FOLKS TO THESE BUSINESSES CURBSIDE DELIVERY AND FACILITATING MARKETING IN ANY WAY WE POSSIBLY COULD.

CHRISTMAS PROGRAMS. THE GUZZLER, WE HAD IT VIRTUALLY AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A POPULAR THING THAT WE DO DOWNTOWN GOING FORWARD THAT THAT BRING CROWDS DOWNTOWN.

ANOTHER REALLY POPULAR ONE THAT WAS DONE WITH DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND THE MUSEUM IS THE SCAVENGER HUNT THAT WAS VERY, VERY POPULAR.

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WE CONTINUE TO DO CLASSIC MOVIES, HAD A PRETTY NEAT EXHIBIT ABOUT GARLAND AT THE OLYMPICS AND THAT WAS DONE AT THE AT THE MUSEUM.

THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. THIS IS KIND OF A NEAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE ARTS IS IN DANA LODGE.

I'LL GIVE HER THE CREDIT AND HER TEAM FOR THIS IDEA.

THERE'S A LOT WHEN WE DID THE CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN, THERE IS A TON OF LOCAL ARTIST TALENT JUST WAITING TO BE HIGHLIGHTED AND DISCOVERED.

AND SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO DO THAT AND KIND OF PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. WE HIRED LOCAL ARTISTS TO PUT TOGETHER SCHWAG FOR US THAT WE COULD SELL THAT PROMOTES THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT'S AT THE THE ACTUAL VISITOR CENTER THERE ON THE SQUARE.

SO THEY THEY HELPED PUT TOGETHER THE ARTWORK FOR IT.

THEY WERE PAID APPROPRIATELY AS ARTISTS AND THEY GET A CUT FOR THEIR TROUBLE.

VARIOUS OTHER DIGITAL INTERFACES THAT WE'VE HAD, THESE ARE THE MAPS THAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE WALKING TOURS AND THIRSTY THIRD THURSDAYS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HELP GET FOLKS AROUND THE SQUARE IN VARIOUS WAYS TO LET THEM SEE AND DISCOVER BUSINESSES THAT THEY MAY HAVE NOT HAVE OTHERWISE KNOWN ABOUT.

VISIT GARLAND IS A VERY ACTIVE AND VIBRANT WEBSITE THAT THE TEAM HAS PUT TOGETHER, GETS A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND IT PROMOTES A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO IT LOOKED AT ALL THE ASSETS THAT THE CITY HAS, AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PROMOTING PARKS AND TRAILS AND THE BUSINESSES DOWN ON THE LAKE.

THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE DOWN THERE BY BASS PRO AND SO FORTH.

AND HERE'S JUST A QUICK REPRESENTATION OF WHAT ALL THOSE DIVISIONS AND TEAMS ARE REPRESENTED RIGHT HERE.

IT'S BEEN A REALLY AMAZING TEAM EFFORT.

A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD DURING CONSTRUCTION, YOU PROBABLY RECALL IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONCIERGE VOLUNTEER TEAM OF FOLKS THAT HELP PEOPLE KIND OF NAVIGATE THE INCONVENIENCE THAT'S INHERENT WITH CONSTRUCTION DOWNTOWN.

SO THEY WILL BE THERE TO KIND OF WHEN YOU GO TO LIKE THE TEXAS RANGERS, WHEN YOU GO TO THE STADIUM IN THE YEAR THAT THEY WIN THE PENNANT, YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT SAY, ASK ME AND YOU GET TO ASK FOLKS, YOU KNOW WHAT? HOW DO I GET TO CERTAIN BUSINESSES? VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DONE IN THE THEATERS, WE HAD VIRTUAL CONCERTS AND WE USED A LOT OF LOCAL FOLKS TO PUT TOGETHER THESE CONCERTS.

AND SO WE PUT CROSS MARKETING TOGETHER WITH FOLKS.

SO WHEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE SQUARE, THEY DISCOVER BUSINESSES.

BIG ART DAY THAT WAS ANOTHER AWARD WINNER IN OUR TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY RECOGNIZED IT AT THE STATE LEVEL AGAIN THIS YEAR.

IT GREW AND WAS EVEN BIGGER.

WE HAD IT ON THE SQUARE. AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO PUT THE ARTISTS AND ALL THE ACTIVITIES ALL OVER THE SQUARE, SO PEOPLE HAD THE CHANCE TO WALK AROUND AND DISCOVER NEW BUSINESSES.

SO JUST KIND OF KIND OF MORE OF THE SAME.

DIA DE LOS MUERTOS AND OTHER FANTASTIC EVENT THAT'S NOW A CITY EVENT.

WE HAD TO DO IT VIRTUALLY, OF COURSE, LAST YEAR, TEAM DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S THE CONCIERGE. THAT'S THE VOLUNTEER GROUP.

THEN WE'VE GOT CIVIC BRAND AS A GROUP THAT WE'VE HIRED TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER THE CURRENT MARKETING VOICE.

AND GOING FORWARD, WHAT IS OUR MARKETING VOICE? AND SO THEY'VE DONE SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH AND WE'LL BE GENERATING A REPORT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. MORE SMALL BUSINESS SPOTLIGHTS, AND THEN THIS IS THE VERSION OF THE LAST COMMUNITY MURAL THAT WAS DONE ON BIG ART DAY WITH LOCAL ARTISTS COLIN LASSETER THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT. THAT WAS THAT WAS A REALLY COOL EVENT.

IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES. SO THAT'S A VERY BRIEF SNAPSHOT.

IF YOU GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

AND IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, I WILL GET THEM TO YOU.

VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HESSER? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. HESSER, FOR THIS BRIEFING.

JUST A QUESTION.

JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID, I GUESS OUR CHALLENGE IS HOW WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FANTASTIC THINGS.

THIS IS SUPER.

GETTING THE WORD OUT.

I WAS DOWN AT AUDUBON FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT AND I NOTICED ON THE SCREEN AND THEY WERE RUNNING SOME OF THESE FOR RUNNING AS PEOPLE WERE DOING THEIR PHYSICAL WORKOUTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

ARE WE GOING TO BE USING IN ADDITION TO OUR REC CENTERS, OUR LIBRARIES, WHICH YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SIGNAGE, DOING THINGS THAT ARE LIBRARIES, THINGS TO KEEP PEOPLE WHO NORMALLY WOULD NOT COME DOWNTOWN, WHO LIVE IN DIFFERENT SECTORS OF THE CITY SO THEY WALK IN.

WHAT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE WORD OUT? I KNOW WE'RE IN A DIGITAL AGE, BUT WE STILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR POPULATIONS THAT DEPEND ON THE PRINT.

SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YES OR HOW WE CAN USE OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE TO FURTHER GET THE

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WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON DOWNTOWN? YOU BET. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CIVIC BRAND FOLKS ARE KIND OF DONE WITH THEIR ASSESSMENT WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT TO DO THAT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS MARKET WITH OTHER DIVISIONS, WE RIGHT NOW HAVE A, I THINK, A GREAT TEAMWORK ATTITUDE AND WE'VE WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE LIBRARY. AND SO IF THEY'VE GOT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.

ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION THAT'S A RECENT DEVELOPMENT IS THAT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, THEY HAVE GOT A POSITION THAT THEY HAVE NOW BROUGHT ON THAT ACTUALLY WORKS DIRECTLY FOR THEM, THAT KIND OF HANDLES MARKETING.

AND SO WE'RE ESTABLISHING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON.

SO AS WE AS WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL KINDS OF WAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOT JUST DOWNTOWN, THAT WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM OUT IN THE REC CENTERS, IN THE LIBRARIES, OTHER FACILITIES.

AND IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.

YOU KNOW, I DRIVE AROUND TOWN ALL THE TIME AND LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS AND I'M LIKE, MAN, WHAT ARE THEY USING TO GET? HOW DO WE GET THE WORD TO THEM? WHAT'S THEIR MAGIC CONDUIT? AND IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO TO GOOD IDEAS AND AND TRY THINGS AND SEE IF THEY WORK.

THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL LADY MORRIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND ANDY, THANK YOU.

YOU'VE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN TEAM HAS BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH ALL THE MARKETING AND PROMOTIONS. I AM THESE DAYS GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS EXPRESSED NOT BY OUR DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS WHO ARE ALL UP TO SPEED WITH ALL OF WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN WITH THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE DOWNTOWN BEING COMING UP ON THE 18TH.

A LOT OF CITIZENS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN TRACKING AS CLOSELY THEY ARE.

THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BASICALLY CLOSE A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES AND MAKE THEM DIFFICULT TO GET TO AND SO FORTH.

SO DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION PERIOD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LASTING 18 TO 20 MONTHS, CAN YOU JUST VERY BRIEFLY SPEAK TO THE PHASED, NOT THE DETAILS, JUST THE PHASING OF HOW WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THE REDESIGN AND THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE BUSINESSES WILL REMAIN OPEN FOR BUSINESS? SURE.

AND I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'M COMMITTED TO MEMORY IN FRONT OF ME.

BUT YES, THE ENTIRE AREA DOES NOT GET SHUT DOWN ALL AT ONCE.

IT GETS DONE IN SECTIONS AND PHASES THAT SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT AND A BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PMO AND PMR WOULD WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION IS REGULAR AND CONSISTENT IN ADVANCE.

OK. THINGS ARE HAPPENING ON THIS SECTION.

THEY'RE WINDING UP.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO MOBILIZE ON THIS SECTION.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE IN ONE OF OUR ROLES WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR STAFF IS TO WORK WITH THOSE BUSINESSES ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THAT PMR, PMO ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT IN PHASES BECAUSE IT IS A LONG TERM COMMITMENT AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME SUSTAINED EFFORT FOR THAT TIME FRAME.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH, IT DOES. AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE PHASING, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE I JUST SAW WHO ARE WATCHING, I WANTED THEM TO HEAR THAT THIS ISN'T SOME KIND OF A RANDOM.

THIS IS A VERY WELL PLANNED.

IT WILL BE A VERY WELL EXECUTED AND VERY RATIONAL PLAN THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUSINESSES STAY OPEN.

PEOPLE HAVE ALSO ASKED ABOUT CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE AND THE TREE LIGHTING; AND THE TREE LIGHTING IS MOVING TO? FIREWHEEL. OK.

AND THAT IS A TEMPORARY SITING, SO WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS OVER AND DONE AND THE SQUARE REOPENS, IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE SQUARE? YOU ARE CORRECT. OK.

AND OTHER CHRISTMAS EVENTS ARE QUEUED UP FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN TO HAPPEN DOWNTOWN EVEN AFTER CONSTRUCTION STARTS; CORRECT? YES, AND THE MOST RECENT ONE IS, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THEM ALL COMMITTED TO MEMORY AT THE MOMENT, BUT ONE THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN PUT TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE A SENSORY FRIENDLY EVENT, IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE HERE AT CITY HALL.

I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE 8TH, BUT I DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT YET.

IT'S VERY RECENT PLANNING EFFORT, SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING HERE UTILIZING THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE THAT'S OUT HERE.

GOT SOME CHARACTERS AND SOME HOT CHOCOLATE AND SOME THINGS GOING ON THAT WILL MAKE THAT SOME REALLY COOL LIGHTING ON THE OUTSIDE THAT'LL BE VERY WELCOMING AND EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE IT IS AGAIN FOR THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. OK.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING, START HAPPENING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

AND AS WE ROLL FORWARD, I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE A IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING TIME TO WATCH THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN BECOME TRANSFORMED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NONE. AND THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM 4C, SPLASH PAD OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES.

[4C. Splash Pad Operational Guidelines]

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SO ANOTHER ONE THAT'S YOU AGAIN.

IT IS ME AGAIN, AND THIS ONE'S ONE I'M MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH AT THE GRASSROOTS AND HANDS ON LEVEL. AND SO WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AGAIN IN LIGHT OF THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN ANOTHER CITY WITH THE SPLASH PAD THAT RESULTED IN A DEATH OF A TODDLER. AND IT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO AN AMOEBA THAT MUCH THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND SO THE QUESTION WAS, OK, GREAT, WE'RE BUILDING SOME SPLASH PADS.

WHAT'S OUR PLAN? AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT.

SO IN 2010, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES ENACTED A LAW OR WAS ASKED TO EXECUTE A LAW FROM STATE LEGISLATURE, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING SPLASH PADS THAT UTILIZE WATER RECIRCULATION SYSTEMS. THE OTHER KIND IS IS BASICALLY IT'S LIKE TAKING A SHOWER IN A SPLASH PAD.

YOU RUN THE SPLASH PAD AND IT DRAINS AWAY AND GOES TO SANITARY SEWER.

IT'S AN OPTION, BUT IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY POPULAR FOR WATER CONSERVATION PURPOSES, OBVIOUSLY. SO WHAT THIS LAW DOES IS IT LAYS OUT, AND FAIRLY WELL I THINK, WHAT IS REQUIRED TO OPERATE A SAFE SPRAY GROUND THAT HAS WATER CIRCULATION AND IT ADDRESSES THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT OF IT.

WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THAT? IT ADDRESSES THE OPERATIONS AND IT ADDRESSES SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO IT'S NOT UNLIKE RUNNING THE LAWS THAT WE WORK WITH NOW RELATED TO POOLS THAT ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR. THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE EQUIPMENT FOR SPLASH PADS.

AND SO IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, AND IT HAS TO BE TESTED AND CERTIFIED PRIOR TO OPENING FOR THE PUBLIC. AND IT REQUIRES A BACK FLOW DEVICE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.

IT HAS TO HAVE PRIMARY DISINFECTION, WHICH IS ALMOST ALWAYS CHLORINE.

THE SECOND THING THAT REALLY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE SECONDARY DISINFECTION, WHICH IS THE UV LIGHT.

SINCE THIS LAW WAS REALLY CREATED FOR CRYPTOSPORIDIUM RESPONSE, CRYPTOSPORIDIUM IS VERY, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO KILL WITH CHLORINE WITHOUT LONG, HIGH EXPOSURE, BUT THE UV LIGHT GETS IT ALMOST INSTANTLY.

SO THAT'S THE SAFETY MECHANISM FOR CRYPTO.

IN REGARDS TO THE AMOEBA, THE AMOEBA IS VERY EASILY KILLED WITH CHLORINE AND IN A POTABLE WATER SYSTEM THAT IS MAINTAINED AT THE CORRECT LEVELS, IT'S A NON-FACTOR.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S REQUIRED IS GOING TO BE THE FILTRATION CIRCULATION EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS YOUR FILTERS AND PUMPS.

AUTOMATIC CHEMICAL FILTERS AND CONTROLLERS ARE STANDARD COMPONENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AND THEN THE OPERATIONS BEFORE YOU OPEN IT, IT'S GOT TO HAVE A COLIFORM TEST.

AND THEN THIS IS THE DILIGENCE PART THAT IS REALLY WHERE I THINK PREVENTS THOSE UNFORTUNATE INSTANCES.

IT'S A DAILY TESTING AND LOGGING OF THE TEST AT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

IF YOU RUN THE SPLASH PAD SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A PERSON THAT'S DOING THAT. YOU HAVE TO PERIODICALLY TEST THE TURNOVER RATE, WHICH MEANS IS IT RUNNING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF GALLONS PER MINUTE THROUGH THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO HANDLE THE SANITATION, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO DOCUMENT ALL YOUR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR TASKS.

THOSE RECORDS ARE KEPT FOR TWO YEARS.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S REQUIRED IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFIED POOL OPERATOR OR AFO AND CPO, ROUGHLY THE SAME THING.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE ON STAFF AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE PROPER BACKWASH WATER DISPOSAL INTO THE SANITARY SEWER AND THEN I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS.

BUT THIS IS LITERALLY THE LANGUAGE THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE LAW TO BE AT EVERY SPLASH PAD TO HELP COMMUNICATE TO THE USERS.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO HELP REDUCE THE PROPENSITY TO PASS ON PATHOGENS. SO WHAT IS OUR PLAN IS A, FOLLOW THE STATE LAW, AND B, IS BECAUSE IT WORKS.

AND I THINK THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF THE SPLASH PADS COMING ONLINE, WE ASK FOR AND COUNCIL APPROVED A DEDICATED AQUATICS TECHNICIAN THAT DOES ONLY SPLASH PADS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL DO SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE LAW IS IS IS MET.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE DUPLICATE RECORDS, HARD COPIES AND SOFT COPIES.

WORK ORDER SYSTEM IS OUR DIGITAL BACKUP AND WE'VE GOT EXPERIENCED AND DEDICATED STAFF.

THIS ISN'T NEW TO THEM. THIS IS NOTHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A LEARNING CURVE.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S THE THE SUMMARY OF HOW WE INTEND TO ADMINISTER THOSE AMENITIES. OK.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I GUESS JASON ALREADY LEFT.

I THINK WHEN THESE ARE AT SPLASH PADS OR IF THEY'RE AT A BUSINESS, THEY'RE MANAGED BY OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OK. AND THAT'S WHY THE CATCH ALL IS THE PUBLIC INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURE.

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IT CAN BE A SPLASH PAD. CAN ALSO BE A DECORATIVE FOUNTAIN THAT IF YOU DON'T PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PLAYING IN IT AND THEY CAN PLAY IN IT, IT'S TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME AND IT'S LIKE AN APARTMENT POOL.

THEY HAVE THE JURISDICTION ON INSPECTING THOSE.

OK. YEAH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I HAD SPOKE WITH JASON ABOUT AND I WAS ACTUALLY, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WATER FOUNTAINS BECAUSE I WAS WAITING.

I'VE BEEN WAITING ON SOME CLARIFICATION ON IF THAT WAS INCLUDED OR NOT, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR JASON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU. AND THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM 4D HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE

[4D. Home Improvement Incentive Program Update]

PROGRAM UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS LAURA DE LA VEGA, AND I'M WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY AND THIS EVENING. MYSELF AND MR. SCOTT BOLLINGER ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

THAT'S A HANDFUL OR A MOUTHFUL.

SO FIRST, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MAINTAINING A HOME REQUIRES QUITE A BIT OF TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY.

AND SO SOMETIMES HOMEOWNERS JUST NEED THAT EXTRA BIT OF INCENTIVE TO TACKLE THOSE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BACK BURNER FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

AND THIS PROGRAM DOES JUST THAT.

IT ENCOURAGES HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOMES USING FINANCIAL INCENTIVES.

AND SO WE BY DOING SO, WE AIM TO PREVENT BLIGHT AND ALSO IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES.

WE ALSO HOPE THAT THIS PROGRAM, THESE INCENTIVES INSPIRE NEARBY NEIGHBORS TO ALSO TAKE STEPS TO TACKLING THESE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

AND WE ALSO HOPE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT THEY INCREASE THE COMPETITIVE DRAW OF GARLAND NEIGHBORHOODS. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK TIMELINE OF IMPLEMENTATION, IN FISCAL YEAR 20, CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATED ONE TIME FUNDING OF 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE OPERATING BUDGET. THE MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING WAS COMMITTED BY THE END OF JULY IN 2020.

CITY COUNCIL THEN APPROVED AN ADDITIONAL APPROVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, ALLOCATING 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE ONE TIME FUNDING TO THE OPERATING BUDGET.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THIS FUNDING WAS COMMITTED BY EARLY APRIL, 2021 SO IN A APPROXIMATELY FOUR MONTHS AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED $500,000 TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH MR. BOLLINGER WILL GO INTO MORE DETAILS IN LATER SLIDES.

SO THE MAIN OBJECTIVE IS TO ELEVATE THE VISUAL APPEAL OF GARLAND HOUSING STOCK.

AND THIS PROGRAM DOES THIS THROUGH A CASH REBATE FOR UP TO HALF OF THE COSTS OF QUALIFIED PRE-APPROVED IMPROVEMENTS.

SOME ADDITIONAL ELIGIBILITY DOES INCLUDE A MINIMUM INVESTMENT OF $1000 WITH A MAXIMUM REBATE OF $10000.

PROPERTIES MUST ALSO BE AT LEAST 30 YEARS OLD AND CANNOT EXCEED A TOTAL DCAD VALUE OF 175 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

AND THERE ARE SOME UPGRADE BONUSES FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY ARE SELECT MATERIALS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES IF THE HOMEOWNER DECIDES TO REPLACE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SOFFIT AND FASCIA.

AND THEN ALSO JUST HIGHER QUALITY MATERIALS FOR FENCING OR SIDING AND SO ON.

IN FISCAL YEAR 21, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 44 APPLICATIONS APPROVED.

OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, A TOTAL OF OF ABOUT 212 THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF REBATES HAVE

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BEEN DISBURSED, WITH AN AVERAGE REBATE OF $5,440.

THERE IS ABOUT 46 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN COMMITTED FUNDS REMAINING, BUT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE STILL WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF THEIR REPAIRS.

AND WE HAVE AND OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE OTHERS, AND SO WE HOPE TO CLOSE THOSE OUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

OVERALL, FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 PROJECTS, THE TOTAL INVESTMENT TO GARLAND HOUSING STOCK CAME OUT TO BE $464,480, WITH AN AVERAGE INVESTMENT PER PROPERTY OF ALMOST TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE FOR THE PARTICIPATING PROPERTIES CAME OUT TO BE $148,395, WITH THE MOST COMMON IMPROVEMENT BEING WINDOW REPLACEMENT.

THERE WERE ONLY FIVE RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM IN FISCAL YEAR 21, COMPRISING OF ABOUT 11 PERCENT OF THE APPROVED APPLICATIONS.

ON THE MAP SHOWN HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE PROPERTIES PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM. THE BLUE DOTS ARE OUR PROJECTS FROM FISCAL YEAR 21 AND I'M GOING TO CALL THOSE MAROON DOTS WHICH REPRESENT FISCAL YEAR 20 PROJECTS.

SO MANY OF THE APPLICATIONS COMPRISED OF MULTIPLE REPAIR PROJECTS BRINGING A TOTAL OF 96 REPAIRS FOR FISCAL YEAR 21.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WINDOW REPLACEMENT WAS THE MOST COMMON REPAIR, TOTALING 24 PERCENT OF THOSE PROJECTS.

THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY FENCE REPLACEMENT AT 14 PERCENT AND OF THE 96 REPAIRS FROM FISCAL YEAR 21. 13 PERCENT INCLUDED NEW EXTERIOR DOORS, FOLLOWED BY REPAINTED HOUSES AT 11 PERCENT. OK.

OVERALL, THERE WERE MORE COMPLIMENTS THAN COMPLAINTS, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

AND SO JUST TO RUN THROUGH THOSE REALLY QUICKLY, SOME OF THE TOP COMPLAINTS INCLUDED THAT THE MAXIMUM APPRAISED VALUE OF 175 THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS TOO LOW.

ANOTHER WAS THE REQUIREMENT OF PRE-APPROVAL BEFORE WORK CAN BEGIN.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS THAT THE PROGRAM WAS OUT OF FUNDING.

A FEW COMPLIMENTS WERE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS A GOOD THING FOR GARLAND.

ANOTHER ONE WAS REGARDING COMMUNICATION WITH THE HIIP MANAGER THAT IT WAS GOOD AND TIMELY. ANOTHER COMPLIMENT WAS THAT THE PROCESS WAS CLEAR AND ORDERLY.

THERE WERE A FEW COMPLIMENTS THAT SAID THAT THIS PROGRAM IS A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW ONE.

A COUPLE OF OUR PARTICIPANTS SAID THAT THEY RECEIVED COMPLIMENTS FROM NEIGHBORS ON PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SUBSTANTIAL.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THESE QUOTES FROM PROJECT PARTICIPANTS, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE LAST TWO, IF I COULD.

THE I GUESS, THE THIRD ONE LISTED THERE FROM D.

O'HEARN SAYS, "I LOVE LIVING IN GARLAND.

THIS HAS BROUGHT ME SO MUCH PRIDE TO OUR WELL-ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THOUGHT THE PROCESS WAS VERY FAIR AND I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE FUTURE." AND THEN THE LAST COMPLIMENT FROM D.

BUTZ SAYS, "SCOTT WAS AN ABSOLUTE JOY TO WORK WITH.

HE WAS VERY PATIENT AND RESPONSIVE TO ME THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

THIS PROGRAM IS GREAT, BUT IT'S FOLKS LIKE SCOTT THAT MAKE IT WORK." SO A BIG KUDOS TO SCOTT.

THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER]. AS I PASS IT ON TO HIM FOR THE NEXT PORTION.

THANKS, LAURA, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR THAT.

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SO AS WE'RE ENTERING THE THIRD YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, I THOUGHT AND GENEROUSLY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO IT, I THOUGHT NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SORT OF DO A CHECK IN ON IT. IS IT MEETING? HOW CAN WE LEARN FROM LESSONS LEARNED? HOW CAN WE BUILD ON OUR SUCCESSES TO MAXIMIZE THE INVESTMENT? THINKING ABOUT HOW IT INCREASES VALUE AND HOW TO INCREASE THE COMPETITIVE DRAW OF GARLAND NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF OUR GOALS AND INSPIRING FURTHER INVESTMENT IN OUR HOUSING STOCK.

THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND GARLAND BY A TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE.

AS LAURA MENTIONED, THE CURRENT APPRAISED VALUE CAP IS 175 FIVE THOUSAND, SO THAT CAPTURES ABOUT 35 PERCENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN GARLAND.

WE DID IT IN $25,000 INCREMENTS HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU INCLUDE THE $200,000 HOMES YOU CAPTURE ABOUT 55 PERCENT OF THE HOUSES IN GARLAND, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT ATTRACTING BUSINESSES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE ALSO IN A COMPETITIVE MARKET SPACE FOR RESIDENTS.

KEEPING HOME VALUES STRONG AND OUR HOUSING STOCK DESIRABLE IS A KEY ELEMENT TO SECURING OUR FUTURE AS A COMMUNITY.

AND THIS SHOWS US HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST SOME OF OUR REGIONAL COMPETITORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY. WE BELIEVE THAT HOUSING STOCK AND ITS VALUE IS ENTWINED WITH MANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES FACING OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WHILE REMAINING COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY GOAL, IT'S CERTAINLY ONE TO MONITOR FOR ITS EFFECTIVENESS AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS AND ATTRACTING NEW RESIDENTS TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO TO JUST UNPACK WHAT VALUE MEANS, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY DID A LITTLE BIT OF DISCOVERY.

I HAD A ONE ON ONE WITH AN APPRAISER WHO'S DONE APPRAISALS IN THIS REGION FOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS TO DISCUSS WHAT APPRAISED VALUE IS AND HOW IT'S PRODUCED AND WHAT AFFECTS IT.

AND THEN TO SORT OF DISCOVER THE MARKETABILITY.

TALKING ABOUT THAT IN COMPETITIVE DRAW OF GARLAND NEIGHBORHOODS, I DISTRIBUTED A SURVEY TO REALTORS WITHIN THE REGION, DISCUSSING WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE OR MOST LIKELY TO INCREASE THAT MARKETABILITY FOR OUR MARKET.

AND SO IN THAT INTERVIEW WITH THE APPRAISER, ACCORDING TO HIM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE, THAT'S OF COURSE THE LAND VALUE PLUS THE IMPROVEMENT IN LAND VALUES DETERMINE OUTSIDE OF HIS SCOPE.

BUT THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE IS SOMETHING HE'S VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON, AND HE THE WAY HE PUT IT IS HE FOCUSES ON THINGS CALLED STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS VERSUS WHAT HE CALLED SIDE ELEMENTS, SO THINGS LIKE DRIVEWAY AND FENCE WHILE THEY HAVE THE EFFECT ISN'T ZERO.

IT'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

AND THE WAY HE HE PUT IT IS IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THE EFFECTIVE AGE OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN IMAGINE A SIX YEAR OLD HOME THAT HAS HAD NOTHING DONE TO IT.

THEN IT'S JUST A SIX YEAR OLD HOME AND IT'D BE APPRAISED THAT WAY.

BUT IF THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS DONE TO IT TO IMPROVE IT, TO MAINTAIN IT, TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE, THAT WOULD LOWER ITS AGE TO AN EFFECTIVE AGE.

SO THE EXAMPLE HE GAVE WAS A HOUSE THAT, WITH A VISIBLY NEW ROOF AND WINDOWS, MAY LOWER EFFECT THE EFFECTIVE AGE OF THE PROPERTY BY EIGHT YEARS, THUS INCREASING ITS VALUE BY 13 PERCENT. SO I GAVE HIM THE LIST OF OUR CURRENT 13 AVAILABLE HIIP IMPROVEMENT TYPES AND ASKED HIM TO TELL ME WHICH ARE THE MOST LIKELY TO LOWER THE EFFECTIVE AGE OF THE PROPERTY. AND HIS TOP THREE WERE REPLACING THE ROOF, REPLACING THE WINDOWS AND REPAINTING THE HOUSE. OR IF IT HAS SIDING, REPLACING THE SIDING, SCRAPING AND PAINTING THE SIDING, MAKING THE SIDING LOOK NEW AND FRESH.

THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT HE SAID THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER THAT WOULD HAVE THE MOST EFFECT ON APPRAISED VALUE IN A POSITIVE WAY.

REGARDING THE MARKETABILITY AND THE SURVEY QUESTIONS, WE FOCUSED ON THREE QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST BEING WHICH OF OUR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IMPROVEMENT TYPES HAVE THE HIGHEST POSITIVE IMPACT ON SALES PRICE.

I CUT IT OFF AT FIVE HERE.

EVERYTHING RECEIVED AT LEAST ONE VOTE BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIG DROP OFF BETWEEN THE FIFTH AND THE SIXTH ONE AND IN ORDER THE TOP FIVE, ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, WAS ROOF, WINDOWS, FOUNDATION REPAIR, REPAINT HOUSE, AND ADD A GARAGE.

I SPOKE WITH ONE REALTOR SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GARAGE AND WHAT SHE SAID.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT, ALTHOUGH I REALIZE WE'RE IN A SELLER'S MARKET AND BUYERS RARELY GET WHAT THEY WANT, THEY, IF THERE'S NO GARAGE THAT TAKES AN IMMEDIATE HIT TO THE SALES PRICE, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT SHOWS UP HERE.

WHETHER THEY'RE EXPECTING TO STORE CARS IN IT OR STORE SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S AN EXPECTATION THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE A GARAGE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT SHOWS UP ON THIS LIST NEXT.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS WHAT'S MOST REQUESTED AMONG PROSPECTIVE BUYERS? AGAIN, BIG DROP OFF BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX IS WHY I INCLUDED THE TOP FIVE HERE.

AND THE ANSWER IS THERE WERE NEW ROOF, FOUNDATION REPAIR, REPLACE FENCE, REPAINT HOUSE

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AND REPLACE WINDOWS.

AND THEN FINALLY, I TOOK THE LIST OFF COMPLETELY.

I SAID, IF THERE, IF YOU COULD DO ANYTHING TO A HOME, WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST VALUABLE? WHAT IMPROVES PROPERTY VALUE THE MOST? AND THE TOP SIX ANSWERS WERE FLOORING, KITCHENS, BATHROOMS, PAINT, ROOF AND FOUNDATION.

OF COURSE, THE FIRST THREE NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. SO COMBINING ALL OF THIS, LEARNED SOME INTERESTING THINGS.

THAT COLUMN TO THE FAR RIGHT IS WHAT LAURA JUST WENT OVER.

THE IMPROVEMENT TYPES THAT ARE CURRENTLY MOST UTILIZED AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS WINDOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE WINDOWS IMPROVE APPRAISED VALUE, THEIR IMPROVE SALES PRICE, THEY'RE REQUESTED BY BUYERS.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WINDOWS ARE A GOOD INVESTMENT.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY A SURPRISE TO ME BECAUSE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CORE OBJECTIVES OF OF HIIP, WHICH LAURA MENTIONED, WAS INCREASING THE VISUAL APPEAL OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WAS JUST KIND OF WONDERING, DOES WINDOWS REALLY DO THAT? CAN I IF SINCE WE CAN'T CONTROL WHERE THEY WHERE THEY HAPPEN, YOU SAW THE MAP, THEY'RE SCATTERED PRETTY WELL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT'S JUST IMPROVING WINDOWS IN CERTAIN HOUSES THAT IMPROVE THE VISUAL APPEAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I STILL DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT DOES INCREASE APPRAISED VALUE. IT HAS AN EFFECT ON SALES PRICES REQUESTED BY BUYERS.

SO THAT'S STILL A FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S PROBABLY A WORTHY INVESTMENT VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE FENCES.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF AN EFFECT ON APPRAISED VALUE.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO REGISTER FOR SALES PRICE.

IT'S SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED BY PROSPECTIVE BUYERS.

SO FENCING MAY NOT MEET SOME OF THOSE GOALS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

I KEEP SAYING THAT WORD PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE I THINK WE HAVE SOME, SOME OVERLAPPING PERSPECTIVES WHEN WITH REGARD TO HIIP.

WHAT MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK THE BEST WAS WHAT WE STARTED WITH, BUT ALSO WHAT INCREASES APPRAISED VALUE THE MOST AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GROWING THE TAX BASE AND OUR AD VALOREM, THAT'S THAT'S AT LEAST ONE PERSPECTIVE TO CONSIDER.

WHAT DO CURRENT HOMEOWNERS WANT? WHETHER THAT IS A HOUSE THEY PLAN TO LIVE IN FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES OR PASS ON TO THEIR CHILDREN OR WHATEVER IT IS, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CURRENT HOMEOWNERS WHILE ALSO PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENT.

THERE'S ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE; WHAT DO PROSPECTIVE BUYERS WANT AS WE TRY TO INCREASE THE COMPETITIVE DRAW OF GARLAND NEIGHBORHOODS AND ATTRACT NEW RESIDENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, NEW IDEAS AND FAMILIES AND HOPEFULLY DISPOSABLE INCOME? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REQUEST? SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT ARE THE FOUR POINTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

THE FIRST BEING CONSIDER RAISING THE APPRAISED VALUE CAP IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. THE CURRENT APPRAISED VALUE CAP, I BELIEVE, WAS SET IN SPRING OF 2019, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THE MARKET HAS MOVED A BIT SINCE THEN.

IF YOU INCREASED IT TO 195, THAT WOULD CAPTURE BY APPRAISED VALUE THE BOTTOM 50 PERCENT OF GARLAND HOMES.

YOU COULD. IN THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU SAW GOING UP TO 200,000 WOULD CAPTURE 55 PERCENT.

SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN.

LAURA DID MENTION THAT IT HAS THE MOST COMPLAINTS, JUST A WORD OF CAUTION.

NO MATTER WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE, YOU WILL PROBABLY GET COMPLAINTS.

SO I WOULDN'T TAKE THAT AS YOUR ONLY CONSIDERATION.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT.

THE MATERIALS UPGRADE BONUS LAURA MENTIONED THAT $200.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE MATERIAL UPGRADES BONUS IS IT DOESN'T REALLY MOTIVATE OR CHANGE BEHAVIOR EITHER WAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WINDOWS, YOU GET A PLUS TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS IF YOU GET ENERGY EFFICIENT WINDOWS. WELL, MOST PEOPLE, MOST WINDOWS THAT ARE SOLD RETAIL TODAY ARE ENERGY EFFICIENT WINDOWS. AND IN TALKING TO THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY, IT DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE BEHAVIOR THAT $200.

BUT ON THE OTHER END, WITH ROOFS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GET PLUS $200 FOR ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES.

EVEN BEFORE THE THE INFLATION OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES AND YOUR TWENTY FIVE YEAR YOUR THREE TAB WAS SO MUCH THAT $200 WASN'T GOING TO MOVE YOU EITHER.

SO ON BOTH ENDS, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING, AS IS.

THE THIRD POINT IS CONSIDER MODIFYING THE FENCE IMPROVEMENT TO MAXIMIZE INVESTMENT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE DATA IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, MOST OF OUR FENCE PROJECTS, MOST OF OUR FENCE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH HIIP ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO IF MAKING NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK BETTER IS AN IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE TO YOU, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WE HAVE SOME FACADE PROGRAMS THAT STATE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE FROM A PUBLIC

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RIGHT-OF-WAY. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADOPTED HERE AGAIN.

IF THAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

BUT IF YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS MORE JUST FENCE IMPROVEMENT IN GENERAL, THE STATE OF FENCES AND GARLAND, THEN MAYBE YOU JUST KEEP IT AS IS.

AND FINALLY, EXPANDING THE HIIP OFFERINGS TO INCLUDE A LIMITED LIST OF MAJOR INTERIOR UPGRADES. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS, I WOULD RECOMMEND LIMITING THAT LIST, ESPECIALLY TO THE THINGS THAT WOULD IMPROVE GARLAND HOUSING STOCK IN THE LONG TERM.

SO MAJOR BATH REMODEL, MAJOR KITCHEN REMODEL, MAYBE FLOORING THE THINGS THAT WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM OUR REALTORS ON.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CONSIDER INCLUDING THE HIIP.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. MAYOR, TO DISCUSS THAT.

AND LAURA AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO HELP THAT PROCESS.

OK, BEFORE WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS.

LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FIRST.

AND WE DO. MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SCOTT, I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBER.

YOU PUT THERE FOR THE AVERAGE GARLAND HOME PRICE.

YOU SAID IT WAS $190000 APPROXIMATELY, BUT THAT NUMBER YOU, THE STATISTIC AT THE BOTTOM WAS FROM 2019.

WE ALL KNOW THAT HOME PRICES HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

IS THAT THE LATEST DATA YOU HAVE OR? THAT IS THE WAS FROM THE CENSUS MEDIAN HOME VALUE DATA.

IT'S NOT BASED ON THE ON DCAD I WAS JUST SINCE IT INCLUDES OTHER JURISDICTIONS, IT WAS THE ONE I WAS ABLE TO TO GET.

WE DON'T HAVE, OF COURSE, ACCESS TO THAT INTERNALLY AND THEY ALSO SPAN DIFFERENT COUNTIES. WE COULD GATHER THAT FOR YOU IF THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT THAT WAS JUST SORT OF A A SNAPSHOT. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS PROBABLY A YEAR OLD AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED EVEN FURTHER SINCE THEN.

YOU'RE EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT IS.

WHAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING IS THAT NUMBER IS WAY TOO LOW AND EVERYONE'S ASKING TO BUMP THAT UP. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE REST OF COUNCIL ALSO TO MOVE THAT.

I LIKE THE NUMBER JUST A CLEAN $200,000.

IT'S AN EASY NUMBER TO MAKE A POLICY, AND I THINK THAT STILL INCLUDES A GREAT NUMBER OF HOMES AND A LOT OF OLDER HOMES LIKE YOU SEE THE NUMBER RIGHT HERE ON THE SIDE, IT'S AVERAGE IS 50 YEARS OLD AND IF YOU INCLUDE THOSE HOUSES UNDER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BASS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. HEY, SCOTT.

AND I DIDN'T NOTICE IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY, IS THIS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ONLY? YES, SIR. OK, SO DUPLEXES ARE NOT ALLOWED OR ANYTHING LARGER THAN THAT CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED? OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND AS FAR AS IT SAID RENTAL PROPERTIES WERE ALLOWED.

IS THERE A LIMIT TO HOW MANY PROPERTIES A PERSON CAN UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM FOR? A PERSON? NO. THE CURRENT GUIDELINE IS ONE PROPERTY, ONE APPLICATION PER PROPERTY PER YEAR. OK.

OK. WITH THAT ANSWERS MY NEXT QUESTION THEN.

OK, SO IT'S A PER YEAR.

OK, SO IT'S PER YEAR.

THE LIMIT IS BASED UPON PER PROPERTY, NOT PER OWNER.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ONLY.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH.

WELL, ACTUALLY, I DON'T MIND THE NUMBER OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN UPDATE OF THE AVERAGE VALUE OF A HOME IN GARLAND.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT THE THE CAP RIGHT AT 50 PERCENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS? THERE'S A STRANGE SOUND GOING ON OVER HERE, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OH, OK, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I WAS HEARING.

SCOTT, YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

THIS IS, I LOVE WHEN SOMETHING IS ANALYZED TO THIS EXTENT BECAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF THINGS MORE CLEAR. AND I CONCUR ABOUT THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND LIMIT THAT DOES MAKE SENSE . AND FASCINATING WITH THE INVESTIGATION YOU DID AND THE CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD.

I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN TOWARD JUST TAKING FENCES OFF OF OUR LIST RATHER THAN PUTTING IT THROUGH THE GYMNASTICS OF SAYING IT HAS TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

IF THAT'S IF YOU'RE REALTORS AND APPRAISERS ARE SAYING THAT'S REALLY A NOTHING BURGER, THEN IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO KEY IN.

AND SINCE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF FUNDING, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE THROW AT IT, I WOULD PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR OF JUST REMOVING FENCES FROM THAT LIST.

LOOKING DOWN THE LIST, EXTERIOR DOORS DON'T SEEM TO HAVE MADE YOUR HIT LIST WITH THE APPRAISERS, EITHER. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OK.

IT WASN'T A TOP THREE.

HE DID MENTION IT AS IT'S A WORTHY INVESTMENT, BUT HE WAS PRETTY FIRM ABOUT HIS TOP THREE. OK. AND I SEE ON THE YOUR REPAIR TYPES OF APPROVED PROJECTS, ROOF REPAIRS, WHICH

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WAS HIGH ON THE APPRAISERS LIST.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE ONLY THIS YEAR ONLY ABOUT FOUR PERCENT OF THE PROJECTS.

SO IS THERE? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A WAY THAT WE CAN MORE INCENTIVIZE OR DIRECT PEOPLE TOWARD THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE GIVE US THE MOST PAYBACK AS FAR AS IMPROVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? I HAVE NOT.

I SUSPECT SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH SORT OF THE INSURANCE CYCLE OF DISASTER AND REPLACING IT THAT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

AND WE MAKE VERY CLEAR IN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT THAT HIT PROJECTS ARE SEPARATE FROM INSURANCE CLAIMS. SO MAYBE THAT PLAYS INTO IT.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I SEE THE SAME DATA YOU DO AND SEE HOW VALUABLE THAT IS FROM MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES. OK.

SO WOULD IT SEEM TO MAKE BETTER SENSE FOR US TO START STRIKING SOME OF THE APPROVED PROJECTS FROM OUR, I THINK YOU SAID, 13 TOTAL OPTIONS? WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO NARROW THAT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER TO TRY TO DRIVE THE PROJECTS AND IN DIRECTIONS THAT WILL BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO US AS A CITY? PERHAPS. OF COURSE, THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION, BUT I DO SOMETHING THAT WE FOCUS ON A LOT IN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY IS IS REALLY THAT ISSUE OF HOUSING STOCK.

HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THE IMPROVE THE CITY'S HOUSING STOCK AND IMPROVE THINGS JUST NOT FOR BOTH CURRENT RESIDENTS AND FUTURE RESIDENTS? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON.

SO ANYTHING THAT CAN TARGET THOSE THINGS THAT IMPROVE HOUSING STOCK, WE DEFINITELY THINK IS A WORTHY DISCUSSION.

I WOULD PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR OF STRIKING FENCES AND POSSIBLY GOING DOWN AND STRIKING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, GIVE US LEAST PAY BACK AND HOPEFULLY URGING PEOPLE TO DO MORE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.

I AM VERY TORN ABOUT THE INTERIOR PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY GOING TO PROBABLY A HANDFUL OF HOUSES.

AND IF THE PEOPLE DON'T SELL THEM, THEN WE'RE NOT.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SHORT TERM, WE'RE NOT GAINING ANYTHING.

SO I AM KIND OF OPPOSED TO THAT AT THIS POINT AND PREFERRING TO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE VISIBLE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I'LL GET OFF THE MIC AND LET THE REST OF COUNCIL SPEAK, BUT THAT'S WHERE I AM ON THAT.

I DO CONCUR ABOUT THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? THANK THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CHEERLEADER, FOR HER CONTRIBUTION TONIGHT.

FIRST, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S RECOMMENDATION, SO SUPPORT THAT.

IT'S THAT CAP, SCOTT.

AND YOU MENTIONED TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL LADY MORRIS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INTERIOR UPGRADES. CAN YOU GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK I KNOW, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT VISUAL.

BUT WHAT WOULD THAT INCLUDE? CAN YOU GIVE? IT WOULD INCLUDE, OF COURSE, WHATEVER YOU RECOMMEND.

BUT THE IDEA CAME FROM THAT REALTOR SURVEY THAT SAID, THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS, IF YOU INCLUDE EVERYTHING, INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR.

THE TOP THREE THINGS WERE FLOORING, MAJOR BATHROOM REMODEL, MAJOR KITCHEN REMODEL.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU WERE TO EXPLORE THAT, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST THOSE THINGS NOW.

WHAT CONSTITUTES MAJOR? I'M NOT SURE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO TO RESEARCH FURTHER.

AND YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT YOU INCLUDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, TO WHAT EXTENT YOU INCLUDE, DO YOU INCLUDE A BIGGER MAXIMUM REBATE AS PART OF THAT TO MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE? BECAUSE THOSE REMODELS CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE.

I THINK THOSE ISSUES ARE LINKED, BUT WHAT WE HAD IN MIND WAS STRICTLY COMING FROM THE REALTOR FEEDBACK OF THE TYPES OF INTERIOR UPGRADES THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE MOST VALUE.

YEAH, THOSE THREE ARE WHAT I CALL THE THE BIG THREE.

BUT I CAN SEE SOME POSSIBLE ECONOMIC DOWNSIDES TO THAT TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS CITY BECAUSE TO A FLOWING BATHROOM, YOU KNOW, COUNTERTOPS, KITCHEN, YOU'RE GETTING INTO SOME PRETTY HEAVY, PRICEY STUFF.

AND I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE WENT WITH THOSE, WE WOULD BE SORT OF DRIVING SOME PEOPLE AWAY

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FROM THIS PROGRAM.

YOU COULD NOT DO THAT.

AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD, I WOULD HATE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, SO I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE INTERIOR.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO CHASE ANYBODY AWAY.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS RENOVATION REBUILDS IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT IF DOES THIS COVER JUST ASKING FOR INFORMATION IF A PORTION OF A PERSON'S HOUSE IS IT'S DAMAGED, LET'S SAY, FROM A NATIONAL NATURAL DISASTER OR AN ACCIDENT, NOT THE WHOLE HOUSE, AND THEN THAT THIS IS THIS PROGRAM.

ARE THEY ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM? IF IT'S PART OF AN INSURANCE CLAIM? NO, NOT CURRENTLY.

IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE INSURANCE DIDN'T COVER EVERYTHING AND SOMETHING THAT IS REMAINING LIKE A DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING THAT'S ELIGIBLE THEN THAN SURE, THEN WE'D TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER APPLICATION.

BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS IF THERE'S DAMAGE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INSURABLE. AND WE DO REQUIRE PROOF OF HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE TO EVEN APPLY.

WE WOULDN'T COVER THAT.

SO THESE FUNDS COULD NOT BE USED FOR GAP FUNDING; CORRECT? OK. ALL RIGHT, OK.

AND MY LAST THING IS NOWHERE IN THE SLIDE AND I NOTICED AND I'VE GOTTEN SOME REQUESTS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO ADA, SHE SAID THEY WANT TO MAKE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOME.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS, ARE THEY ELIGIBLE? HOW IS THAT CONSIDERED? WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK DID YOU GET FROM THE REALTORS? FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO MAY WANT TO DO THINGS THAT RIGHT NOW ARE COVERED BY THIS PROGRAM, BUT THE DRIVING FORCE HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, ADA KIND OF ISSUES.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? SURE. THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN TO DATE IS THAT THERE ARE OFTEN OTHER AVENUES THAT FUND THAT KIND OF THING.

THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EASILY INCLUDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTED. WE WOULD NEED SOME SORT SPECIFICS ON WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENT TYPES ARE SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE THEM CLEARLY.

BUT TODAY, WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM APPLICANTS AND POTENTIAL APPLICANTS IS THAT THEY ARE TYPICALLY ABLE TO GET THOSE THINGS FUNDED THROUGH OTHER MEANS, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT ALL THOSE MEANS ARE, BUT THAT THEY'RE USUALLY FUNDED THROUGH CDBG OR SOMETHING ELSE.

OK, SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE FEELING THAT WE'VE GOT OTHER PROGRAMS? THE CDBG PROGRAMS, THINGS THAT ADDRESSES THAT, WOULD ADDRESS THOSE THAT WE DON'T NEED.

ARE YOU PRETTY COMFORTABLE THERE, SCOTT? FROM THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED? YES, I'M CERTAINLY NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD, BUT IT I HAVEN'T HAD SOMEONE THAT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE BEEN SERVED BY SOME, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR NON-PROFITS, OUR AMAZING CHURCHES AND OUR GAS MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED SO FAR. OK.

AND MY LAST QUESTION IS ON THOSE THAT APPLIED IN THIS PROGRAM AND DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT.

CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT MAYBE THREE OR FOUR OF THE THE AREAS THAT MAY BE LACKING THAT RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT IS AN AREA OR ARE THERE? AREAS WHERE YOU SAW, WELL, YOU KNOW, HE HAD THE APPLICATIONS, THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE PRIMARY REASONS PERHAPS TO STRENGTHEN THIS PROGRAM OR TO GIVE INFORMATION FEEDBACK TO PEOPLE AS TO WHY.

CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT ANY OR IS THERE IS THERE IS THERE A PATTERN OR ANYTHING? I DON'T FEEL THERE IS.

THE ONLY OFFICIAL REJECTIONS THAT I'VE EVER GIVEN ON APPLICATIONS ARE DUE TO THE APPRAISED VALUE BEING TOO HIGH.

THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW WHERE I'LL TAKE IT BACK.

THERE'S THERE'S ONE OTHER TYPE.

THERE HAS BEEN TWO APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN WHERE THE WORK WAS ALREADY DONE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO GET REIMBURSED AFTER, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY WERE APPROVED.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO, YOU KNOW, REJECTIONS OR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THAT I HAVE PROCESSED.

OK. OK. AND LAST QUESTION.

CAN THESE FUNDS BE USED FOR TO MAKE PERMIT OR FEE REQUIREMENTS FOR WORK DONE? YES. THE PERMIT FEES ARE PART OF, IF IT'S PART OF THE INVOICE SUBMISSION THAT THEY PROVIDE, THEN THAN YES, THAT'S THIS PART OF THE REBATE THAT WE GIVE.

OK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN? THANK YOU, MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

I DON'T SUPPORT USING THIS FOR INTERIOR.

THERE'S A BENEFIT THAT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS DON'T TALK ABOUT,

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WHICH IS WHEN MY NEIGHBOR GETS ONE OF THESE GRANTS AND IMPROVES THEIR WINDOWS, THEY REPAINT THEIR HOUSE, IT IMPROVES THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE.

IT IMPROVES THE VALUE OF EVERY HOUSE ON THAT STREET.

AND IN THAT REGARD, BY DOING THIS, WE'RE USING THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THIS KIND OF INCENTIVE TO IMPROVE TO PULL UP THE HOME VALUES IN AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO I THINK ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT'S A BETTER USE OF PUBLIC MONEY IN THE SENSE OF WE'RE IMPROVING A GROUP OF HOME VALUES AS OPPOSED TO AN INDIVIDUAL HOME VALUE.

THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS IS THAT I DON'T SUPPORT RAISING THE APPRAISED VALUE AND INCREASING THE POOL OF AVAILABLE HOMES BY OVER 50 PERCENT, WITH THE CURRENT POOL WITH 175 AND UNDER. WE'RE ALREADY SELLING OUT THE PROGRAM IN WHAT WAS IT FOR MONTHS THIS YEAR, THREE MONTHS THE LAST TIME.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO FOCUS OUR RESOURCES ON THE HOUSES THAT ARE AT A LOWER VALUATION ALREADY, AS OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE POOL THAT'S SIMILAR TO, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EXACT PROXY IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO AFFORD OR THIS OR THAT.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE UNDER $250000 HOUSE WHO ARE, AS THEY SAY, HOUSE POOR AND MAY BE LESS ABLE TO AFFORD SOMETHING THERE THAN SOMEBODY LIVING IN A $90000 HOUSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL, I FEEL THEY'RE KEEPING IT IN THOSE LOWER VALUE HOMES OR OR ADDING, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY THE WAY TO GO.

THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO IS WE COULD JUST HAVE I MEAN, WE COULD TOTALLY REWORK THE SYSTEM AND HAVE AN APPLICATION PERIOD OF A CERTAIN SPECIFIED TIME AND THEN SCORE THOSE APPLICATIONS AND PUT UNDER SIMILAR RUBRIC TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SIDEWALK PROGRAM THAT THE FOLKS WHO NEEDED WHO NEEDED TO USE SIDEWALKS THE MOST WHO NEEDED TO FOR TRANSPORTATION AND HAD RUNDOWN AREAS.

OLD SIDEWALK WERE THE LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

AND A LOT OF OUR A LOT OF OUR SIDEWALK MONEY WAS WAS GOING TO OTHER AREAS.

AND SO WE REVISED THAT.

SO YOU COULD ALSO DO THAT AND YOU COULD HAVE A SCORING SYSTEM.

YOU COULD ADD POINTS FOR WHAT THE TYPE OF REPAIR IS AND WHETHER IT'S VISIBLE FOR THE STREET AND WHETHER IT'S CDBG AREA AND WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, DISABLED AND WHETHER IT'S YOU COULD ADD ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I THINK IT ADDS A LOT MORE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEXITY, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY TARGET THE BENEFITS HERE TO PEOPLE WHO KIND OF NEED IT THE MOST OR WHOSE HOMES NEED IT THE MOST.

BUT BARRING THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE KEEP IT AT 175, EVEN THOUGH THE PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES IN GARLAND THAT NOW QUALIFY FOR THAT, MAYBE MUCH LESS THAN THIRTY FIVE, MAYBE TWENTY FIVE OR TWENTY PERCENT.

THOSE WOULD LIKELY BE THE 20 PERCENT THAT REALLY NEED IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH? THANK YOU, MAYOR. GREAT JOB ON THE ANALYSIS.

THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF THIS IS PSYCHOLOGICAL.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WANT TO SEE THAT ONE HOUSE, THAT'S KIND OF THE EYESORE. USUALLY IT'S MINE, GET THE MOST WORK.

AND YOU KNOW, IF WE KEEP THAT, IF WE WIN THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL VICTORY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HITTING THE LOW END OF THE SPECTRUM, HOMES MAKE MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND GET THEM LOOKING NICE AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACTUAL TAXABLE VALUE OF THE HOME. I'M HOPING THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T LOOK TOO HARD AT ME ON THAT ONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I SAY, LEAVE IT ALONE, LEAVE IT AS IS.

EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT TODAY SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

THERE'S STILL A HIGH DEMAND FOR THIS FUNDING AT THE LOWEST END OF OUR HOME VALUES.

I THINK THE FENCING, WHILE IT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT TO THE PROPERTY VALUE, I THINK THE VISUAL APPEAL OF IT IS PRETTY CRITICAL.

AND SO I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A NEIGHBOR WITH A CRUMMY FENCE THAT'S FALLING APART AND HAVING A NICE BRAND NEW ONE, AND IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I'M HAPPY WITH THINGS AS IS.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, SCOTT.

YEAH, I DID WANT TO MENTION ALSO I LOVE DATA.

I LOVE THE ANALYSIS YOU'VE DONE.

SO I GOT ACTUALLY OPEN ON TWO SCREENS RIGHT HERE, LOOKING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEM.

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I REALLY LOVE LOOKING AT ALL THE CHARTS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND ONE THING YOU MENTIONED WAS THE UTILIZATION OF THE MATERIALS UPGRADE.

SO I WOULD PERSONALLY SAY WE COULD PROBABLY DO AWAY WITH THAT AND I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. AND ON THE FENCES, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WANT TO SIDE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH ON THIS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY HAS TO BE THE PART OF THE FENCE THAT'S VISIBLE IS GOING TO GET CREDIT FOR AND ALL THAT, I THINK I MEAN, BECAUSE A FENCE IS AN EXPENSIVE THING TO FIX AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, IT REALLY DOES. AND IT'S A LOT BETTER TO FIX IT THAN JUST TO KEEP PATCHING IT UP.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE FENCES IN THERE.

BUT I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS FUND, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE INTERIOR UPGRADES.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THINGS I HAD TO ADD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANKS, SIR.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M SORRY TO PUNCH IN AGAIN.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR 2022, WE CHOSE TO DOUBLE THE FUND FROM 250 THOUSAND TO 500 THOUSAND? THAT'S CORRECT. OK, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT HAD WE NOT DONE THAT, I WOULD AGREE THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE THE APPRAISAL WHERE IT SITS FOR THAT VERY REASON THAT WE ARE USING IT UP AND IT'S THE HOMES, THE LESS VALUABLE HOMES THAT ARE REQUIRING IT SINCE WE'RE DOUBLING THIS FUND FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT GIVES ME A GREAT DEAL OF MUCH MORE OF A COMFORT LEVEL IN SAYING LET THE VALUE DRIFT UP WITH THE ACTUAL VALUES.

AND I JUST RECENTLY SOLD A HOME AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE VALUES HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, SO I REMAIN COMFORTABLE WITH THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND APPRAISAL VALUE, GIVEN THAT WE'RE DOUBLING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SCOTT, I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY STATED, AND THAT IS YOU HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON PUTTING FORTH THE DATA AND INFORMATION FOR US TO CONSIDER.

I HAVE MORE OF A QUESTION, HOWEVER, AND THAT IS; WHAT WAS THE QUALIFICATION IN THE WAY OF HOW OLD THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE TO BE ELIGIBLE? IT MUST BE AT LEAST 30 YEARS OLD.

MUST BE AT LEAST 30 YEARS OLD.

AND I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE WE WANT TO TAKE THAT TO MAYBE TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING, IF YOU'RE TAKING ON 500,000 MORE DOLLARS, BUT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF FUNDS.

WOULD YOU SPEAK TO IF WE TOOK IT TO 25 YEARS VERSUS THE 30? WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE? IT WOULD BE PURE SPECULATION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT WITH REGARD TO APPLICATIONS. I THINK WE WOULD GET THE 30 YEAR REQUIREMENT TO DATE HAS NOT ELIMINATED ANYONE THAT HAS COME TO ME NOW.

THEY MAY ELIMINATE THEMSELVES BY LOOKING AT WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND SAY, OH, WELL, MINE'S NOT 30 YEARS OLD, SO I DON'T QUALIFY.

BUT AGAIN, PURE SPECULATION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND OR EVEN I ASK THAT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TALKING 30 YEARS AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY SAYING WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY TO BREAK IT DOWN TO 25, MAYBE EVEN 20, THAT MAY BRING MORE APPLICANTS INTO THE PROGRAM, BUT IN THAT CASE, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING THE MONEY EVEN QUICKER.

WOULD THAT BE THE CASE? IT WOULD, YES.

OK, SO LEAVING IT AT 30 WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER USE OF THE PROGRAM? USING THAT RATIONALE, I THINK SO.

OK, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO LOOKING AT THESE INDIVIDUALLY? I WILL TELL YOU BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, AS FAR AS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE ITEMS AS FAR AS RAISING THE APPRAISED VALUE, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THAT AS WELL AND I UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT TO KEEP IT AT THE LOWER AT THE 175, BUT ONE THING I LOOK AT IS, AND I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I LIVE IN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THIS WILL FURTHER CAPTURE IS AT THE 195, YOU ARE PICKING UP A VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE HOUSING STOCK OF THIS CITY THAT ARE NEARING 50 YEARS OLD.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, AND NO, NO SECRETS HERE, THAT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

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THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE EARLY S70S ERA.

THEY'RE CLASSICS NOW.

THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AGED THAT WELL, ARE INTO THAT.

AND SO GETTING SOME OF THESE HOUSES, HONESTLY, I THINK THIS ALLOWS US TO GET TO SOME OF THOSE HOUSES BEFORE THEY NEED EVEN FURTHER WORK.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SO I MEAN, I GET, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM IS OBVIOUSLY TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE OLDER HOMES THAT ARE IN MORE NEED OF REPAIR, BUT WITH WHERE THE APPRAISED VALUES ARE ON THESE HOMES NOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK I AM COMFORTABLE AT 195. I MEAN, I REALIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND IS NEGLIGIBLE, BUT I CAN SEE RAISING IT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING AS FAR AS FENCING, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF STRIKING THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS PRIMARILY REAR ENTRY HOMES, AND I SEE MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCES IN MY FENCES MORE THAN I SEE THEIR FRONT DOORS.

AND SO I THINK THAT HAS A HUGE AND HAVING REPLACED MY FENCE WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS AROUND ME, I CAN TELL YOU MY ALLEY LOOKS BETTER.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

AND WHEN WE CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THAT THE FENCE REPAIR NEEDS TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROADWAY, WELL WE CONSIDER OUR ALLEYS, ROADWAYS.

SO THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY FUZZY LINE THERE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FENCES, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE INTERIOR UPGRADES BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES, YOU'RE IMPROVING THE VALUE OF THE HOME, BUT NOT THE AESTHETIC OF THE HOME.

THAT SORT OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AFTER WITH THIS.

THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.

SO LET'S START AT THE TOP.

AS FAR AS THE APPRAISED VALUE CAP, IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED AT TWO HUNDRED.

I MEAN, AS STAFF HAS PRESENTED, IT'S AT 195.

AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS NOT REALLY WORTH CONSIDERING THE DIFFERENCE.

SO THE WAY I THINK I WAS HEARING THIS, I'LL ASK IF THERE IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE CAP TO TWO HUNDRED, ARE THERE? IS THERE ANYBODY? WHO IS OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE CAP? OK, SO COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

SO I ASSUME THAT EVERYONE ELSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS, SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU IN THE QUEUE.

THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, I WAS THINKING OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO AS ONE THAT MIGHT BE ON THE EDGE OF THIS. SO I LOOKED UP FOUR DIFFERENT STREETS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE AVERAGE TAX VALUE OF THE HOUSES ARE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH.

SO I MEAN, I THINK WHATEVER NUMBER WE GO UP TO AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'D LIKE TO CAPTURE 50 PERCENT OF THE HOUSES IN GARLAND, SO I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO GOING UP TO 235, 250 THOUSAND. OK, THANK YOU.

OK. YEAH, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT STREET THAT YOU STREETS THAT YOU LOOKED UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE STREET THAT I LIVE ON.

RIGHT? OK.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? BEFORE WE GET TOO, WE ARE GETTING REALLY FAR OFF THE TRACK HERE.

LET'S MOVE INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYOR.

YEAH, I SUPPORT RAISING THE CAP JUST SO AS AS CAVEAT MY HOUSE, MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1971 AND I GOT MY APPRAISAL RECENTLY AND I DID SOME SWEATING FROM THE MAILBOX.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD GENERALLY IS UP TO ABOUT 225 AND MOST OF THE HOMES WERE BUILT BETWEEN 1971 AND 1974, JUST AS MATERIAL.

AND SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE CAP TO TWO HUNDRED.

NEXT MODIFYING OR ELIMINATING THE MATERIAL UPGRADE BONUS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL.

SO THOSE IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING.

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WE'LL CALL IT EIGHT, NINE, UNANIMOUS.

THERE WE GO. IT TOOK US A LITTLE BIT TO GET THERE.

THE NEXT ITEM CURRENT UPGRADES.

OH NO, SORRY. BASICALLY REMOVING FENCES FROM THE LIST OF APPROVED ANYONE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING FENCES.

I SEE NO LIKE WE.

OH, OK.

YEAH, I DON'T IT'S THAT THAT'S LIKE A EITHER WAY, FENCES LIVE ON.

THERE WE GO. LET'S SEE THE INTERIOR OF INCLUDING THE LIST OF INTERIOR UPGRADES.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS IN FAVOR OF INTERIOR UPGRADES BEING ADDED TO THE LIST? I SEE NONE. I THINK HOPEFULLY, ONE DAY WE CAN GET THIS PROGRAM TO THAT POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER ON THE EXTERIORS BEFORE WE GET TO BATHROOMS AND KITCHENS AND FLOORING AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO YOU SAID WHAT YOU NEED, SIR? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I NEED. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO PRESS ON HERE.

[4E. Development Services Committee Report]

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 4E, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE REPORT.

MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK? GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE HAD THREE ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT WE'D LIKE TO REPORT ON TODAY, AND THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DO WITH DRIVEWAY EXPANSIONS.

WE COULD HAVE USED 12 APPLICANTS COULD HAVE USED THIS MONEY FROM THE PROGRAM TO DO DRIVEWAY EXPANSIONS. BUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WAS ADDING DRIVEWAYS, THE AVAILABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE IF YOUR HOUSE IS CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 1970 AND USE SPECIFIC TYPES OF SURFACES IN THE FRONT YARD.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST BY A COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS THAT LOT OF THE HOUSES IN HER DISTRICT DON'T HAVE PARKING FACILITIES IN THE FRONT.

SO WE LOOKED AT CHANGING SECTION 3256 OF THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW LIMITED PARKING IN THE FRONT OF HOUSES ON IMPROVED SURFACES.

AND MR. ENGLAND HAD SOME DRAFT INTO THE SECTION.

I MENTIONED THAT 3256 TO ALLOW SUCH.

[INAUDIBLE] COMES TO OUR RESIDENT PARKING EXPERT.

MM HMM. THAT'S SO DISAPPOINTING TO ME.

THAT HAS BECOME MY LEGACY, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU I HOPE MY MOM'S NOT WATCHING.

I'D BE VERY DISAPPOINTED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT I'VE DONE WITH MY LIFE.

SO THIS ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS CAME TO ME TO ASK, SO HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE'VE GET.

WE WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THIS UNTIL WE STARTED DOING VERY AGGRESSIVE PARKING ENFORCEMENT TO TRY TO PREVENT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON UNAPPROVED SURFACES. IT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINTS WE GET IS PEOPLE WHO PARK ON THE LAWN.

WELL, IT TURNS OUT IN SOME OF THE VERY OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT REAR ALLEYS, SO THAT THEY CAN'T PUT PARKING IN THE BACK.

THE HOUSES WERE ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED WITH PAVERS IN THE FRONT, NOW NOT PAVERS LIKE INTERLOCKING PAVERS LIKE WE CURRENTLY ALLOW, BUT JUST ACTUALLY STONES.

AND SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST TWO LINES OF THEM WHERE EACH WHEEL OF THE CAR WOULD DRIVE UP ON THE DRIVEWAY AND AND MANY OF THESE INSTANCES THEY WERE CONDUCTED OR CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO 1970. SO LET'S ALL PICTURE THIS IN OUR MIND.

YOU HAVE THESE PAVING STONES THAT WERE SET IN PLACE IN THE 1970 OR BEFORE THE 1960S AND 50 OR 60 YEARS OF TIME HAS GONE PAST.

THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE A DRIVEWAY TODAY, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THOSE.

IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE TO PARKING ON AN UNAPPROVED SURFACE, IF THAT'S HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AND YOU MAINTAINED IT AS SUCH.

I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE TYPES OF STONES THAT THEY PUT. YOU WOUND UP HAVING RUTS AND THEN THE GRASS GROWS IN AND AND THE DEPUTY GOES OUT AND WRITES A TICKET. IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE PERSON'S PARKED AND THE PLAINS OF THE SERENGETI.

YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A DRIVEWAY.

IT WAS ONCE A DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO OUT AND LOOK, IF YOU LOOK DOWN AND SOMETIMES DIG THREE OR FOUR INCHES BELOW THE DIRT, THERE ARE IN FACT PAVING STONES THAT WERE PUT UP THE CENTER OF THE DRIVEWAY. AND SO THE PROBLEM BECAME THAT WE LEARNED THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOUSES WHERE THEY'RE PARKING IN THIS WAY.

AND WHEN YOU TALK TO THE RESIDENTS THERE, THEY WOULD LOVE TO TO ACTUALLY PUT A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IN THERE. BUT OUR CODE DOESN'T ACTUALLY ALLOW THAT AS IT EXISTS, IT SAYS.

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BASICALLY, YOU CAN MAINTAIN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE, WHICH WASN'T GOING TO WORK FOR VERY LONG, EVEN WHEN THEY BUILT IT.

AND SO GOING OUT AND PUTTING THOSE SAME STONES BACK UP ABOVE AT GRADE LEVEL FROM THE YEARS OF SINKING DOWN TO THE DIRT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A REALLY EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.

SO ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS, WELL, RATHER THAN HAVING THE MESS THAT'S OUT THERE OF OF SOME OF THESE DRIVEWAYS, WHY NOT ALLOW THEM TO ACTUALLY BUILD A CONSTRUCTED GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IN SOME OF THESE LIMITED PLACES? AND THE PLACES WOULD BE HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE 1970 THAT DON'T HAVE A REAR ACCESS DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEIR CURRENT SOLUTION WOULD ONLY BE ESSENTIALLY CONCRETE.

THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY IN SOME OF THESE VERY OLD HOMES, WHERE THE COST OF THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY WOULD LIKELY GREATLY EXCEED ANY VALUE INCREASE THAT YOU'D GET OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR THE DRIVEWAY.

AND SO WHAT WAS PROPOSED OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS WAS ALLOWING IF YOU HAVE A HOME THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE 1970.

THAT THERE WAS NO REAR ENTRY DRIVEWAY THAT YOU'D BE ALLOWED TO BUILD A LIMITED PARKING SURFACE DRIVEWAY, WHICH WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY GRAVEL, OR YOU COULD USE ONE OF THE OTHER LIMITED SERVICE MATERIALS.

BUT I SUSPECT GIVEN THE COST, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WOULD OPT FOR GRAVEL IN THE FRONT, SO WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT'S CLEARLY DEFINED.

LOOKS LIKE A DRIVEWAY AND THEY'RE PARKED ON IT.

THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T THINKING WELL, THEY'RE PARKED ON THEIR LAWN.

AND SO FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE NOT OUT THERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THERE WERE ACTUALLY PAVERS ONCE UPON A TIME THERE AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE HOUSES TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO I PUT THE PAVERS THAT WERE THERE, NOT THE INTERLOCKING PAVERS LIKE WE HAVE TODAY, BUT JUST PAVE STONES UP TO CENTERS WHERE THE TWO TIRES GO? HOW DO YOU GET THEM BACK IN PLACE AND THEN KEEP THEM MAINTAINED AT THAT LEVEL? AND AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE IMPACT REALLY A SMALL NUMBER OF OF HOMES, BUT HOMES WHERE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE DIFFICULTY PARKING AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY GET A TICKET.

IF WE'RE NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY AND IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE FOR THEM TO COME ESTABLISH IT AS A DRIVEWAY AND IT CREATES QUITE A BURDEN ON THEM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ENSURE COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT IT. BUT THE PURPOSE WAS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHERE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HAVE VERA ENTRIES THAT COULD PUT A DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK COULD PUT A SIMILAR TYPE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT OF SIX INCHES OF GRAVEL.

SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A DRIVEWAY.

AND IT ACTUALLY SOLVES A DIFFERENT PROBLEM IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT IS, WE HAVE A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN PARK WHERE THE DRIVEWAY ORIGINALLY WAS PUT, BECAUSE IT'S ORIGINALLY ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN DIDN'T LAST 60 YEARS, AND IT'S GONE.

AND SO THEY WANTED PARKING ON THE STREET.

SO A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ROOM TO PARK ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING THE PORTION OF THEIR HOUSE.

THAT WAS ONCE A DRIVEWAY BECAUSE IT'S IN SUCH DISREPAIR.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE. AND AS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OTHERWISE.

OK. WE DO HEAR.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. BETTS. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SO THIS WAS FRAMED AS DRIVEWAY EXPANSION, BUT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT MORE LIKE CONVERSION? WELL, IT'S CONVERSION AND EXPANSION.

IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY 20 FEET WIDE, SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY SOME OF THEM WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT TWO CARS IN THE GRAVEL SURFACE WOULD BE LIMITED TO 20 FEET WIDE OR 50 PERCENT OF THE FRONT YARD, BUT NO MORE THAN 20 FEET WIDE.

SO THEY COULD PUT A 20 FOOT WIDE.

THEY COULD PUT A DRIVEWAY IN BIG ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD PARK TWO CARS LIKE A STANDARD WIDTH DRIVEWAY.

OK, SO IT IS ALSO EXPANSION.

THEN IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DRIVEWAY WIDER THAN THE DRIVEWAY THAT THEY ORIGINALLY.

AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAYS WERE TWO SETS OF PAVING STONES GOING TO THE CENTER WHERE THE THE CAR, IF YOU CAN FIND THEM AND WHOEVER THOUGHT THOSE WERE GOING TO LAST 60 YEARS.

MY GRANDPARENTS HAD ONE LIKE THAT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE A DIRT ROAD.

NOT REALLY LIKE A DRIVEWAY AFTER 30 OR 40 YEARS IN GOOD REPAIR, LIKE MY GRANDFATHER USED TO HAVE THE MAILMAN BACK HIS CAR OUT SO THAT HE COULD DRIVE AROUND DURING THE DAY.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY 50 PERCENT LOT COVERAGE IS THAT.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT SOME I'VE ALREADY GOT SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, 90 PERCENT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST THEY GRAVEL EVERYTHING OR THEY CONCRETE EVERYTHING. AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

YEAH, FOR THESE, A LIMIT WOULD BE 20 FEET WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM WIDTH NOT TO EXCEED 50 PERCENT OF YOUR COVERAGE OF YOUR YARD.

SO 20 FEET WOULD TAKE UP MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF YOUR YARD, THEN THEY CAN'T DO 20 FEET.

OTHERWISE, THEY COULD DO A 20 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS NOT ATYPICAL.

IS IS 50 PERCENT WHAT OUR CURRENT REQUIREMENT, WHAT OUR CURRENT LIMIT IS ON? I BELIEVE YES, I HEAR FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY.

YES. OK, THANK YOU.

PEANUT GALLERY. AND WHAT ABOUT DO THEY NEED TO ALSO HAVE A DO WE HAVE ANY RULES INVOLVED HERE WITH RESPECT TO HAVING APPROPRIATE CURB CUTS OR OR ACCESS?

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BECAUSE I HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THIS, WHO HAVE THEIR CONCRETE DRIVEWAY AND THEY JUST THROW DOWN A BUNCH OF GRAVEL AND THEY JUST DRIVE OVER THE CURB AND AND WHATNOT. IT HAD TO BE PERMITTED.

AND I THINK THE BUILDING OFFICIALS TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK IT'D BE PERMITTED WITHOUT AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH.

SO CORRECT.

YES. OK, SO IT'S STILL NEED TO GET PERMITTED, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE BARRIERS TO HOLD THE SIX INCHES OF GRAVEL IN, AND IT'LL HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH.

OK, GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OK. MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MORE FOLKS IN THE QUEUE, BUT IF YOU GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. ONE PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE DID SAY IS THAT THE DRIVEWAY APRON ITSELF MUST MEET THE APPLICABLE CITY STANDARDS.

SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A REAL 20 FOOT WIDE APRON.

IT WOULD BE A ONE CAR DRAPER AND THEN IT WOULD EXPAND UP AS YOU GET TO THE IT'S TO THE 20 FOOT WITH ON THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.

OK. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE FOLKS HERE.

COUNCIL LADY MORRIS, GO AHEAD.

YOU'VE BEEN IN THE QUEUE. OK.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT PART OF THE WHAT PROVOKED THIS IS GETTING ACTUAL TICKETS AND CALLING IN TEARS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SIX TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CREATE A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS THEIR ONLY OPTION AT THIS POINT IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A REAR ALLEY.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE BUT CONCRETE BUT A CONCRETE DRIVER IN YOUR FRONT YARD.

SO THIS THIS WAS A NO WAY OUT, NO SOLUTION, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHY I CALLED OUR PARKING CZAR AND SAID, SORRY MIKE, AND SAID, CAN YOU THINK OF SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP WITH THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T PUT THESE PEOPLE IN THIS CORNER AND GIVE THEM NO LEGAL SOLUTION? AND SO THIS I THINK THE COMPROMISE CAME UP REASONABLE.

IT STILL HAS TO BE PERMITTED.

IT CAN'T JUST BE BACK UP AND DROP A BUNCH OF GRAVEL ON THE ON YOUR FRONT YARD.

AND WE EVEN LOOKED AT THE AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE HOUSES 1970 AND EARLIER WERE LOCATED AND VERY AGAIN MAKING SURE THAT THIS WAS NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS SEEMED TO BE THE YEAR AND THE ERA AND THE DATE AND THE SOLUTION THAT WAS MOST GRACEFUL AND MADE MOST SENSE.

SO. THANK YOU.

IF I MIGHT, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE PEOPLE WHO WE DID BECOME AWARE OF, WHO GOT TICKETS FOR PARKING ON WHAT USED TO BE THEIR DRIVEWAYS, THAT, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED IN GOOD ORDER, WERE MAINTAINED AS BEST THEY COULD.

I GUESS, GIVEN THEIR AGE, THOSE TICKETS WERE UNIFORMLY DISMISSED AND THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE. YES.

SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE HEARTLESS.

THE MARSHALS, THE DEPUTY WHO WENT OUT, WAS UNAWARE THAT BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T TELL AS CLEARLY AS YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO THAT THAT WAS A PARKING AREA.

OK. COUNCIL MEMBER VERA? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MIKE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOUSES THAT HAVE ONE CAR GARAGE, ONE DRIVEWAY? THEY CAN ADD ANOTHER DRIVEWAY.

WELL, SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE ME, DON'T HAVE A GARAGE AT ALL, BUT THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? AND AND THE DRIVEWAY WAS ORIGINALLY JUST TWO SETS OF PAVING STONES WHERE THE TIGER WENT.

AND SO THEY COULD EITHER COVER THAT WITH GRAVEL, SO IT LOOKS LIKE A DRIVEWAY.

TODAY, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY COULD MAKE IT UP TO 20 FEET WIDE.

THEY CAN ADD ANOTHER DRIVEWAY.

SO IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A FULL DRIVEWAY, BUT THEY COULD MAKE IT UP TO 20 FEET WIDE SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE TWO CARS IN THERE.

WHEREAS ON THE OTHER ONE, THE WAY IT WAS, SOMETIMES THERE ARE TWO CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF THEIR ONE'S PARKED WITH ONE TIRE ON ONE SIDE OF THE OLD TIRE TRACKS AND ONE ON THE OTHER SET. BUT IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON THE LAWN.

IT LOOKED A WHOLE LOT NICER IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IF THEY WERE PARKED ON NEAT GRAVEL PAD.

OK, THANK YOU.

OKAY. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. BETTS AND MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] PIGGYBACKING ON COUNCILMAN AUBIN'S COMMENT.

THERE ARE SOME HOMES NOW THAT HAVE THE KIND OF DRIVEWAY THAT COUNCILMAN AUBIN DESCRIBED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. WILL THEY BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND AND GET IN COMPLIANCE? THEY HAVE TO HAVE BEEN PERMITTED.

AND SO THEY WOULD STILL BE AN UNPERMITTED DRIVEWAY IF THEY JUST WENT AND DID WHAT WAS SUGGESTED, WHICH IS THAT THEY POURED GRAVEL WHERE THE THEY JUST POURED GRAVEL AND DIDN'T HAVE GRAVEL. APPROACH OR CURB CAN MAKE THE CURB RIGHT.

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THERE ARE SOME EXISTING NOW, AS COUNCILMAN AUBIN CITED, A QUESTION IS ARE THOSE WILL THOSE BE GRANDFATHERED OR WHETHER THEY HAVE TO GO BACK? IF THIS ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, WILL THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND AND COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND BE PERMITTED? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, AND I ASSUME THAT WAS WHAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD SAY. BUT WE'LL HAVE THE PEANUT GALLERY COME FORWARD, OKAY? MAYOR COUNCIL JIM OAK, BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY IF SOMEBODY'S GOT AN EXISTING IF THEIR HOUSE WAS BUILT PRIOR TO 1970 AND THEY DON'T HAVE REAR ACCESS, THAT THAT PORTION COULD BE GRANDFATHERED PROVIDED IT MET THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS PROVIDE THE THE GRAVEL AREA WAS NOT WIDER THAN 20 FEET AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT A PROPER APPROACH.

IT MAY BE THAT THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND BUILD AN APPROACH TO IT THAT THEY DON'T.

IF THEY'VE JUST POURED IT UP AND THEY'RE DRIVING UP OVER THE CURB, THEY MAY HAVE TO EXPAND THEIR APPROACH.

TO GET THERE, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME WAYS TO FIGURE THOSE OUT AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT.

OK, SO WE WOULD WE WOULD WE WOULD REVIEW THE GRANDFATHER PROVISION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. YES, SIR. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

SO THOSE. OK.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I KNOW SOME OF THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN AUBIN DESCRIBED.

AND NUMBER OF THOSE HOMES ARE ALSO OCCUPIED BY SENIORS WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND AND FIX THAT CURVE AND PICK UP THOSE GRAVEL.

SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T BOX THOSE PEOPLE IN.

THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.

AND WE DID TALK TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY HAD A UNIQUE PLACE WHERE THEY COULDN'T EXPAND THEIR THEIR APPROACH, THAT THEY COULD KIND OF CURVE THAT IN TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO KIND OF USE THE APPROACH TO ACCESS THE DRIVEWAY RATHER THAN DRIVING UP OVER THE PARKWAY, RUNNING OVER WATER METERS.

YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD CREATE THOSE KIND OF PROBLEMS. OK. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK, GO AHEAD.

I THINK WE MADE THE FULL ROUND.

WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE, THAT WOULD LIKELY COME BACK AS AN ORDINANCE IN OUR FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

I BELIEVE THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

YES. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REPORT ON IS THE TREE MITIGATION FEES. WE HAD MATT WATSON COME AND TALK TO US AND GAVE US AN UPDATE ON HOW MUCH IS IN THE FEE AND HOW MUCH IS IN THE FUND FOR THE TREE MITIGATION FEES AND ALSO HOW MUCH THAT WE GET PER YEAR. AND THEN IT REALLY VARIES WIDELY.

THERE IS FROM 2003-2015, THERE'S ABOUT FIFTY THOUSAND A YEAR THAT WAS ADDED TO IT.

AFTER THAT, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE $200000 A YEAR WAS ADDED TO THE TREE MITIGATION FEE JUST DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS BEING DONE ACROSS THE CITY.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S ABOUT $1.2 MILLION IN UNCOMMITTED FEE AND COMMITTED FUNDS IN THAT TREE MITIGATION FUND. AND WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO DO IS THAT RATHER THAN SETTING A RULE OR A TRIGGER OF WHEN THERE HAS TO BE ACTION TAKEN BY A COUNCIL TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS THAT WE WERE, LET THE AMOUNT OF THE FUND BE REPORTED TO THE COUNCIL DURING THE CIP PERIOD.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT SIGNIFICANT LARGE PROJECTS MAY BE DONE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.

THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IF WE PUT A CAP ON THAT FUND, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH MONEY FOR WHEN THOSE LARGE PROJECTS COME ALONG.

FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S TWO MAJOR PROJECTS ONE WITH THE WALNUT PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR THAT WAS OVER $300000.

AND THERE'S ALSO DOWNTOWN SQUARE HAS OVER FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THE UNCOMMITTED FUNDS WERE.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT CAPACITY IN THAT FUND AND LEAVE IT TO COUNCIL SEEING THAT NUMBER DURING THE CIP PERIOD TO DIRECT STAFF THAT WE'D LIKE TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE FUNDS AT THAT TIME. SO WE DECIDED JUST TO HAVE THAT ONE REPORTER PERIOD DURING THE YEAR.

AND THEN AS THE FUNDS ARE NEEDED, THE STAFF WILL COME TO THE COUNCIL AND UPDATE THEM AS NEEDED. OK.

I HAVE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE FOR THAT.

ONE FINAL ITEM WAS COST ESCALATION ON BOND PROJECTS AND WE HAD MR. [INAUDIBLE] COME AND TALK TO US.

AND REALLY THE ISSUE THERE WAS BEING ABLE TO STOCKPILE MATERIALS, POSSIBLY FOR FUTURE BOND PROJECTS.

AND HE SAID THAT WAS BASICALLY A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO, CONSIDERING A LOT OF THE BOND PROJECTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR UNDER DESIGN.

WELL, NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION NECESSARILY, BUT UNDER DESIGN.

AND AS PIPE SIZES CHANGE OR THE AMOUNT OF MATERIALS, QUANTITY, MATERIALS CHANGE, THERE'S NO REAL GOOD WAY TO BE ABLE TO STORE AND STOCKPILE THOSE.

AND WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'D BE BUYING HIGH IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW WITH FUTURE PRICES TO FALL OR WE'D BE BUYING AT A LOW POINT IN FUTURE PRICES RISE.

SO WE REALLY DID NOT HAVE A GOOD WAY TO MITIGATE THE RISING COSTS OF THESE BOND PROJECTS

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CURRENTLY. SO NO CRYSTAL BALLS, NO CRYSTAL BALL.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST WITH OUR ROCK CRUSHING FACILITY.

WE HAD TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE PORTION OF ALL THE MATERIALS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THESE.

OK, VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE.

ALL RIGHT. AND I WOULD MR. ENGLAND. THE DRIVEWAY EXPANSION ORDINANCE FORTHCOMING.

ALL RIGHT. AND MR. BRADFORD THE TREE MITIGATION FEE REVIEW DURING THE CIP.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

GO AHEAD. MR. MAYOR, THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RELATED TO TREE MITIGATION FUNDS ON HOW WE SPEND THOSE FUNDS STAFFS WANTING NEEDED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

THE GDAX NOT CLEAR ABOUT HOW THOSE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT.

AND SO THERE'S GOING. BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE GDC COMING FORWARD, ALLOWING STAFF TO SPEND THOSE FOR LANDSCAPING, LANDSCAPING, INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY, AND SO IT'S JUST PROVIDES CLARITY.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF A POLICY SHIFT, IT'S JUST PROVIDING CLARITY HOW WE CAN SPEND THOSE FUNDS. OK, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FIVE ANNOUNCED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[5. Announce Future Agenda Items]

IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS FUTURE? THERE WE GO. LIGHTEN UP HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER VERA? I WANT TO BRING THIS TO A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ABOUT 18 WHEELERS PARKING ON THE ROADWAYS IN THE DISTRICT, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THAT COVERED ORDINANCE WISE.

I LIKE TO REVIEW IT.

OK, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? YES, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BASS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS? OK, MAYOR, THIS IS KIND OF A COUSIN, A BROTHER-IN-LAW TO COUNCILMAN VERA'S.

YOUR HESITATION IS MAKING ME CONCERNED.

COUNCILMAN VERA GOT OUT OF THE QUEUE FIRST, SO HE SLOWED ME DOWN ON THIS ONE.

BUT IT'S RELATED.

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH TRACTOR TRAILER PARKING AND THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY, AND I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND REFERRING THAT TO EITHER COMMUNITY SERVICES OR PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT MAYOR, IF I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU WANT BOTH OF THOSE IN PUBLIC SAFETY? THAT'S FINE, MAYOR. OK, OK.

THANKS, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER VERA IS A SECOND ON THAT ONE.

OK, VERY GOOD.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK WE HAD CONSIDERED THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO BRING IT UP AGAIN, WHICH IS AND I GUESS THIS WOULD GO TO AFC, WHICH WOULD BE TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING SOME KIND OF ONLINE FORM FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT CAN TAKE PLACE IN BETWEEN MEETINGS AND WHATNOT. OK.

AND THAT IS AS PERMITTED BY LAW.

YES. AND COUNCIL LADY MORRIS SECOND ON THAT.

SO ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES? ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE ITEMS, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OBVIOUSLY, IF SOMETHING COMES UP AFTERWARDS, THERE'S ALWAYS A PROCESS FOR GETTING IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'LL MOVE US TO ITEM SIX.

COUNCIL WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[6. Council will move into Executive Session]

THE COUNCIL WILL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.072, 551.071, AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS ONE, EXCUSE ME, THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF SEVERAL TRACTS OF REAL PROPERTY.

EXCUSE ME IF WE'RE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS LOCATED IN VARIOUS PLACES WITHIN THE CITY UNDER 551.072 AND ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME UNDER 551.071 TO THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF MERIDEN DRIVE AND FOREST LANE UNDER 551.072.

AND THE TENANT ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGE AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME UNDER 551.071 AND 3 COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT

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THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY OR EXPAND IN THE VICINITY OF SMITH GARLAND AVENUE AND MCCREE ROAD, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS UNDER 551.087.

COUNCIL, WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK.

LET'S HAVE EVERYONE BACK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, SO WE WILL RECESS THIS WORK SESSION.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.