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MEANING AND LIKE A YEAR

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WITH ACTUAL PEOPLE

[Environmental and Community Advisory Board on August 11, 2021.]

INSTEAD OF, UH, PEOPLE ON A SCREEN.

UM, WE SHOULD ALL INTRODUCE OURSELVES.

LET'S START WITH KEN, KEN RISSER.

MAYOR'S APPOINTEE PRESENT JIM DOBBINS DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO ABRONS DISTRICT THREE SHIBU, SAMUEL DISTRICT FOUR, KAYLA BURNS DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT EIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THIS, UH, THIS DEFINITELY IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME.

YES, IT IS.

DID YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT? LIKE PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT OR ANYTHING? I JUST, I AM.

I BEEN, UM, I'M A CITIZEN OF GARLAND SINCE WE MOVED HERE IN 2007 FROM THE EAST COAST.

I'M AN EDUCATOR AND I'M AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT RICHLAND COLLEGE.

COOL.

AND, UM, SO JUST A LITTLE ABOUT ME.

I HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, AUSTIN, AND IT IS JUST INCREDIBLE SCHOOL.

THEY ALL WENT TO KIMBALL IN AUSTIN JACKSON AND NORTHERN IRELAND.

YEAH.

I'VE HAD KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS AND CURRENTLY HAVE SOME INDIA.

I GOT NINE GRANDCHILDREN.

WOW.

AND SEVEN OF THEM ARE IN GARLAND.

SO BEAVER SELLERS, ABBOTT, AND LUNA.

OKAY, GOOD.

GOOD, GOOD.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I MEAN, DISTRICT TWO.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU TOO.

WE SHOULD ALL SEND A THANK YOU NOTE TO DEBRA MORRIS.

YEAH.

IT'S COMPLEMENTIVE OF DEBORAH.

YES.

SO WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY TODAY.

UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE GOT? APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

EVERYBODY LOOK AT THIS.

I WAS NOT HERE.

SO THEY LOOK GREAT TO ME.

WE WANT TO MOVE TO PASS THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS THE MINUTE.

IT SAYS SECOND THING.

GOOD, EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A GUEST.

I'M SURE WOULDN'T LIKE TO GET OUT OF HERE.

SO WE HAVE LIEUTENANT SHANKS HE'S WITH THE CITY MARSHAL'S OFFICE, AND HE'S GOING TO BE TALKING TO US ABOUT STREET PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.

SO LIEUTENANT SHANKS WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT ONTO YOU.

THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE HER BY LETTING ME BE HERE.

UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACTUALLY TALK TO AS MANY GROUPS AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE PROGRAM CAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S FAIRLY NEW TO US.

WE'VE ONLY BEEN DOING FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS CODE COMPLIANCE, DID IT PRIOR TO US TAKING IT OVER.

BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL CAME TO US AND SAID, WE WANT ACTUAL PEACE OFFICERS, UH, ENFORCING THE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, SO WE GOT VOLUNTOLD TO DO IT AND UH, OF COURSE WE WERE GLAD TO DO IT, BUT WE HAD, WE WENT IN AND FIRST WE WENT IN AND KIND OF STUDIED.

OKAY.

WHAT ARE THE MAIN COMPLAINTS THAT CITIZENS HAVE AND NOTICED THAT OVERWHELMINGLY WE HAD A LOT OF JUNK CARS ON THE STREETS AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO PEOPLE HAD TO WALK AROUND THEIR CAR, INTO THE STREET TO WALK, UH, STROLLERS WHEELCHAIRS THROUGH EVEN JUST SMALL KIDS, WHATEVER PEOPLE HAD TO GO OUT INTO THE STREETS, GO AROUND THAT CAR.

SO WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS, WELL, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START TAKING ACTION ON THIS, LET'S DO A BREAK IN PERIOD AND JUST GO OUT AND ROUND WARNINGS.

SO WE DID THAT FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

IN THAT THREE MONTHS, WE HANDED OUT 4,000 WARNINGS, UM, AND REALLY CAME TO AND REALLY CAME TO LACK A LITTLE PROBLEM, THE ISSUE.

SO AFTER THAT PERIOD, THE COUNCIL SAID, OKAY, GO AHEAD AND START WRITING CITATIONS.

WE HAVE ELECTRONIC TICKET WRITERS.

SO WE CAN JUST, WE CAN WALK UP TO A CAR.

CAUSE THE LAST IS IN THE STATE, THE VIOLATION THAT PRINTS IT OUT.

AND WE CAN ALSO, WE CAN CHOOSE TO WRITE THEM A TICKET OR TO DO A WARNING DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED JUST WANTED THESE TO BE WERE CIVIL VIOLATIONS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WAS NO CRIMINAL ACTION ATTACHED TO THESE SENSATIONS.

IF YOU DIDN'T PAY HIM, NO WARRANT WAS GOING TO BE ISSUED.

AND YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE IS NOT GOING TO BE HELD FOR RENEWAL.

YOUR LICENSE PLATE REGISTRATION WAS NOT GOING TO BE HELD UP FOR RENEWAL.

PLUS THEY WANTED THE FINES TO NOT BREAK THE BANK.

SO THEY DECIDED THE FIRST BAN IS GOING TO BE $25.

SECOND FINE

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IS GOING TO BE $50.

THE THIRD AND EVERY SUBSEQUENT FIVE FOR THAT CALENDAR YEAR IS GOING TO BE 70.

AND THEY ALSO DECIDED WE WANT TO GIVE THEM TIME TO PAY IT.

SO YOU HAVE 65 DAYS TO PAY THE TICKET.

IF YOU DON'T PAY IT AFTER THAT, THEN THE $25 LATE FEES ATTACHED.

SO THOSE WERE THE GUIDELINES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE US.

HEY, LET'S BE LENIENT LIKE MIKE FIND SMALL AND LET'S GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME TO PAY IT.

AND JUST LIKE, IF YOU GOT A REGULAR TRAFFIC TICKET, INSTEAD OF HAVING A COURT, WE HAVE A HEARING OFFICER HE'S THE SAME ONE THAT DID THE RED LIGHT CAMERA HEARINGS.

IT'S A CIVIL HEARING.

YOU CAN GO IN AND SIT DOWN WITH HIM, HIS NAME'S RICHARD FIELDS AND UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT.

AND HE'S A SUPER NICE GUY AND HE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, DISMISSES AS MANY AS HE EVOLVES.

YOU KNOW, HE, HE REALLY, UH, TAKES EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT.

IS HE A MAGISTRATE? HE'S NOT A MAGISTRATE IS A CIVIL HEARING OFFICER.

OKAY.

SO DURING OUR, DURING OUR, UH, PERIOD OF, OF DOING THE WARNINGS, UM, WE WERE DOING AS MANY INFORMATIONAL PROGRAMS AS WE COULD.

THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT WE CAME UP WITH.

WE'VE HANDED OUT AT SEVERAL MEETINGS WE ATTENDED BEFORE WE EVER STARTED ACTUALLY WRITING TICKETS.

AND THIS KIND OF EXPLAINS THE PROGRAM, THE MOST COMMON VIOLATIONS, HOW TO REPORT A VIOLATION IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW TO TAKE CARE OF A TICKET.

SHOULD YOU GET ONE? THANK YOU.

SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS AND DECIDED, OKAY, LET'S PUT OUT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE COULD OVER HERE.

WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MOST COMMON VIOLATIONS THAT WE SEE OUT THERE.

PARKING ON A A HUNDRED PROOF SURFACE.

PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW I CAN'T PARK IN MY FRONT YARD, BUT YOU CAN'T PARK IN YOUR FRONT YARD.

IT HAS TO BE A PAID OR APPROVED SURFACE.

AND APPROVED MEANS THAT CODE COMPLIANCE HAS GIVEN YOU A PERMIT TO DO IT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN GRAVEL PAGERS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, OVERSIZED VEHICLES, YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, ANYTHING OVER 9,000 POUNDS IS AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE.

ANY TRAILER ON PUBLIC STREET BY ORDINANCE IS AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE.

UH, DOESN'T MATTER THE SIZE OF THE TRAILER.

SO THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE MOST COMMON THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE DO, UH, COME ACROSS OUT THERE.

AND WE WANTED TO GIVE SOME, UH, PICTURE KNOW EXAMPLES.

ALSO WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE PARK NEXT TO A FIRE HYDRANT, PARKING IN YOUR YARD.

UH, CAN'T HAVE A RECORD IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWHERE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THE IMPORTANT THINGS WE HAD IN RED, BECAUSE WE KEPT GETTING A COMMON FEAR, A COMMON CALL FROM CITIZENS.

THEY WOULD CALL US AND SAY, I WANT TO REPORT MY NEIGHBOR, THE PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

OKAY, WELL GIVE US A VIOLATION AND WE'LL COME OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.

SO NO, YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE GETS PUBLIC STREET.

ANYONE CAN PARK THERE AS LONG AS IT'S LEGALLY PARKED, THEY CAN PARK THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PARK ANYWHERE ON THE STREETS.

SO, AND IT'S ALSO NOT A VIOLATION OF LAW FOR YOU TO WALK SOMEONE'S MAILBOX.

AND WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE LAWS.

WE CAN'T ENFORCE SOMEONE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

SO WE WOULD TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK WITH THE POST OFFICE.

CAUSE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE CAN DO FOR SOMEONE THAT IS PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, BLOCKING YOUR MAILBOX, BLOCKING YOUR TRASH PICKUP.

AGAIN, NO VIOLATION OF LAW.

IF IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF LAW, WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAD MAKE KNOWN VERY QUICKLY.

THAT'S, THEY'RE PARKING, YOU'RE BLOCKING YOUR DRIVEWAY.

THEY CANNOT BLOCK YOUR DRIVEWAY.

YEAH.

ARE YOU GUYS ENFORCING VEHICLES PARKED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION? THANK YOU.

UM, WE DO THAT BY COMPLAINT.

UM, AND WE GENERALLY DON'T WRITE A TICKET ON THAT BECAUSE IF WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT DOWN THE FORCE, IF WE DID, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY DON'T KNOW THAT NOW WHEN WE DO WRITE A TICKET IS IF IT'S ON A CURVE AND IT'S PARKED, FACING THE WRONG DIRECTION AND FOR THEM TO LEAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE LANE OF TRAFFIC.

UM, YEAH.

AND THEN WE MAP, UH, YOU KNOW, WRITE A ROUGH CITATION FOR THAT.

MAKE SENSE ON THOSE.

WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO REFRAIN AND LISTEN TO THAT A REAL SAFETY SITUATION.

SO YOU'RE SAYING PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS NOT A VIOLATION, BUT WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE PEOPLE COMING INSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND PARKING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK? YEAH, PUBLIC STREET.

NOW WHERE YOU GET INTO VIOLATION

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IS PER ORDINANCE.

IF A CAR SITS FOR MORE THAN 48 HOURS, OKAY.

DOESN'T MATTER IF THE CAR BELONGS THERE IS FROM OUT OF TOWN, WHATEVER IT HAS TO MOVE EVERYWHERE.

NOW THE ORDERS DON'T SPECIFY HOW MUCH IT HAS TO MOVE.

SO IF WE PUT A RED WARNING ON THE CAR AND WE DO THESE ON, WE PUT THESE ON THE CARS FOR THE 48 HOUR VIOLATIONS, BECAUSE IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ON IT, WE REALLY CAN'T VERIFY, OKAY.

THEN IT'S REALLY BEEN THERE FOR MORE THAN 48 HOURS.

UM, WHEREAS IF THEY CALL US AND SAY, THERE'S A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF A FIRE HYDRANT, WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND VISUALLY OBSERVE THAT VIOLATION.

BUT IF THEY TELL US, HEY, THIS CAR'S BEEN PARKED HERE FOR MORE THAN 48 HOURS, ALL WE CAN DO IS GO OUT THERE, PUT A WARNING ON IT, PUT IT IN OUR SYSTEM, UH, AND SCHEDULE IT FOR FOLLOW UP IN ANOTHER 48 HOURS.

THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT WE CAN DO.

AND, AND THAT'S, IT'S A LOT EASIER WHEN WE GO OUT THERE IN THE CAR, SITTING IN ON FOUR FLATS HAS TWO BROKEN OUT WINDOWS.

UM, THAT REGISTRATION HAS EXPIRED FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS.

YUP.

OKAY.

I CAN TELL THAT ONE'S BEEN MOVED, PUT SAME PROCESS.

I MEAN, I CAN TELL THAT ONE'S BEEN SITTING FOR A LONG TIME, SAME PROCESS.

WE STILL PUT THE WARNING ON IT.

ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO CHALK TIRES? WE CANNOT.

TRUMP TAX.

NO.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THAT WAS A CITY THING.

OR IS THAT A, A UNITED STATES CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION CONSTITUTION AGAIN, UNREASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURE.

YEAH.

WE USED TO DO THAT, BUT NOW ALL WE DO IS WE PICK A TIRE ON CAR AND NOTE WHERE THE VALVE STEM IS.

AND SO, UM, THAT WAY, WHENEVER WE COME BACK OUT IN 48 OR 72 HOURS, IF THE VALVE STEMS IN THE SAME LOCATION, THAT'S A, WHAT, 20 MILLION TO ONE CHANCE THAT THEY MOVED THE CAR AND CAME BACK TO THE EXACT SAME POSITION.

SO I GOT ONE OF THE EMAILS SAYING THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NINE CAR PARKED IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NOT IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, BUT IN THE SITE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT LIKE THIS, BUT NOT PARALLEL, BUT LIKE THIS NINE OF THEM.

SO WHAT CAN WE SAY? THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE PARKED LIKE THIS BACKED UP.

I MEAN, ALONG THE GUARD IS A CUL-DE-SAC AROUND ABOUT, OKAY.

IF IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC I CAN PLACE IT IN PARK, BUT NINE CARS FROM ONE HOUSE IS OKAY, THERE'S NO, NO, THERE'S NO CITY ORDINANCE AGAINST HOW MANY VEHICLES, UM, ONE FAMILY, ONE FAMILY OR ONE RESIDENCE CAN HAVE.

YEAH.

SO THAT, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE 48 HOUR CITY ORDINANCE WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM USING THE PUBLIC STREETS AS A STORAGE, BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM HERE.

SINCE WE'VE STARTED TOWING, WE'VE ONLY BEEN TELLING CARS FOR ABOUT THE LAST 18 MONTHS AND WITH THE ONES WE DID TODAY, WE'VE PROBABLY TOLD ABOUT 125 THE DAY UP TO DATE IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS.

WE'VE WE'VE PROBABLY TOLD HIM ABOUT 125 VEHICLES.

WOW.

YEAH.

BUT THE PROCESS ON ALL THESE 48 HOURS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO MAKE A CASE THAT IT'S A JOB VEHICLE, WE GO OUT.

IF IT'S REGISTERED AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'LL PUT ONE OF THESE RED CARDS ON IT, WE'LL COME BACK OUT IN 48 HOURS.

IT HADN'T MOVED ONE MORE STICKER ON THE STICKER.

THE KIND THAT'S REALLY HARD TO GET OFF.

YES, YES, YES.

THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE IT FOR ANOTHER FOLLOW-UP.

NOW THIS IS ALL PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE THIRD DIRECTION.

WE'LL GO OUT THE THIRD TIME.

IT STILL HASN'T MOVED.

WE'LL PUT ANOTHER ORANGE STICKER ON THERE.

AND ROCK FINAL NOTICE WE GOT THERE.

FOUR TIME IS STILL THERE.

IT GETS TOWED.

NOW, IF IT'S NOT REGISTERED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT'S, APPARENTLY HASN'T RUN IN YEARS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT HAS PARTS FALLING OFF OF IT.

THEN THE FIRST TIME WE RESPOND OUT THERE, WE'LL PUT AN ORANGE STICKER ON IT.

FINAL NOTICE, COME BACK IN 48 HOURS IN TOTAL, THAT ONE, WE TRY TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS EVERY OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE CITY.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT UNTIL WE STARTED DOING THIS PEOPLE, UH, WHEREVER THEIR CAR STOPS RUNNING, THEY JUST LEAVE IT.

THEY JUST LEAVE IT.

UM, THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT WE TELL THE OTHER TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT WE TELL IS IF A CAR ACCUMULATES FIVE TICKETS AND THEY GET TO A PASS THROUGH STATUS, THEN WE'LL IMPOUND THE VEHICLE AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THOSE PAST DUE TICKETS TO GET THEIR VEHICLE BACK.

BUT THEY'RE NOT APPROVING ANY DAILY STORAGE FEES BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOLD ON THE CAR, THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY THE IMPOUND FEE PLUS THE BAD TICKETS, BUT THERE'S NOT ANY DAILY STORAGE FEES UNTIL WE RELEASE THE WHOLE.

IF WE RELEASE THE HOLD AND THEN THEY DON'T GO GET IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO START IT FROM A STORAGE.

SO, SO Y'ALL ARE NOT LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH JUST REALLY GETS YOU FOR THAT.

OH, HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR FEES? I'VE HAD TO GET MINE.

I SAW ONE OF THEIR PARKING TICKETS THE OTHER DAY.

WE HAD A DALLAS GUY THAT WAS OVER HERE IN GARLAND.

HE LOST TRACK OF WHERE HE WAS.

AND HE STARTED WRITING TICKETS OVER

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IN SOUTH PARK.

OFF WALL.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? AND SOMEONE ACTUALLY BROUGHT ONE IN AND IT WAS A CITY OF DOUBTS AND THEIR FIRST OFFENSE WAS $45.

AND IF IT'S NOT PAID, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 14 DAYS.

THEN IT JUMPS TO $85.

AND I WAS LIKE, WOW.

OH MY GOD, IT GOT EXPENSIVE.

AND THEN THEY CHARGED BY THE DAY AT THE IMPOUND.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL IS IF THEY ARE VERY, UM, VERY RESONANT ORIENTED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOB IS GETTING DONE, BUT THAT THE RESIDENT IS NOT SO PUT OUT BY IT, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY OR, YOU KNOW, SO FORTH.

UM, TH THEIR, THEIR MAIN THING THAT THEY'VE TOLD US IS BE FAIR.

JUST BE FAIR ENOUGH.

THE ORDINANCE ITSELF WAS WRITTEN PRETTY SOFTLY.

OH, IT WAS NOT THAT BAD ON PURPOSE.

UM, THIS IS ANOTHER FLOWER THAT WE DID.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INFORMATION, BUT, UM, THIS WENT OUT AND EVERYBODY'S UTILITY BILL.

EVERYBODY RECEIVES A UTILITY BILL BY MAIL, GOT ONE OF THESE IN THEIR UTILITY BILL, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THE LITTLE PAMPHLET THAT WE MADE UP.

BUT THAT ONE OUT, UH, IN THE UTILITY BILL.

SO WE DID, YOU KNOW, WE DID QUITE A BIT OF ADVERTISING THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO START DOING THIS ENFORCEMENT.

UH, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE BREAK IN PERIOD WHERE WE DID NOTHING BUT WARNINGS AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND WE DECIDED, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BACK OFF.

SO THE ONLY TIME WE RESPONDED TO A PARKING ISSUE DURING THE PANDEMIC, THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC IS IF IT WAS A REAL SAFETY ISSUE.

THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY TIME THAT WEEKEND.

AND, AND WE WERE REALLY HAD VERY FEW OF THOSE.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF CARS THAT WE HAD TO TOW CAUSE THEY WERE ALL FOUR, UH, WELL, BOTH AXLES.

THEY HAD A JACK ON EACH CORNER, YOU KNOW, KIDS WERE PLAYING WITH THE CARS THAT WERE FOR JACKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PASSED, UH, FOR VEHICLE REGISTRATIONS.

UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT ALL KIND OF TIES INTO THE 48 HOUR, THE JUNK VEHICLE, UH, TO HAVE A CAR PARKED ON THE PUBLIC STREET.

IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED AND THE REGISTRATION MUST NOT BE EXPIRED MORE THAN 90 DAYS.

SO IF IT'S UNREGISTERED OR THE REGISTRATION IS EXPIRED MORE THAN 90 DAYS, IT IS A VIOLATION RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IN PERIOD ON THAT.

SO LET'S START IN NOVEMBER 1ST.

WE'LL ACTUALLY GO TO TICKETS ON THAT, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAS THE CITY COUNCIL EVER DISCUSSED WITH YOU, UM, PARKING PERMITS? NO, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT PARKING PERMITS.

UM, I HAVE SOME OWN THOUGHTS ON IT AND MY OWN THOUGHTS ON THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND SCHOOLS AND THEY HAVE RESTRICTED PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES.

HOW WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM HAVE A RESIDENT TAG OR SOMETHING SO THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH IN THOSE RESTRICTED TIME PERIODS WE'LL KNOW THAT THE PERSON LIVES THERE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A BREAK.

I LIVE THERE.

SO, UM, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO APPROACH MY BOSS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF JUST, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY HOMES, ESPECIALLY WITH SMALLER, OLDER HOMES WITH MAYBE A SINGLE GARAGE OR MAYBE EVEN A COMPLETELY COVERING GARAGE.

YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF CARS OUT IN THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, UM, I WAS, I'VE BEEN KICKING AROUND HOW TO MAKE IT WORK OR, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH PERMITTING TO TRY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE AT ALL.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU AND I, AND I DON'T, I DON'T TO IT FOR A CODE ENFORCEMENT CODE COMPLIANCE, BUT I HAVE HEARD THEM KIND OF KICKING AROUND AN IDEA MAYBE OF SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE TO RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES TO ANY PARTICULAR HOME.

UM, I THINK THERE IS ALREADY SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT CAN LIVE IN A HOME.

YEAH.

I'M PRETTY SURE THERE IS.

IS IT ENFORCED? I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE GO TO SOME HOMES AND ARABIC, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE FAMILIES IN THAT HOUSE.

UH, THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, I, I HAD THREE TO FOUR FAMILIES, THE FOUR OR FIVE CARS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UH, I'VE HEARD THAT AND I HEARD IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO KINDA BEING KICKED AROUND.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS GAINED ANY TRACTION OR IF IT'S GONE AWAY, IS IT LIKELY THAT THAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT WOULD FALL ON THE MARSHALL'S OFFICER? WOULD IT WOULDN'T BE CO OKAY.

OKAY.

BUT IN SOME OF THE SCHOOL, IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, THE HOUSE, UM, THERE'S NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SO WHAT, HOW THEY GET THE PERMIT FOR THEM, IF IT WOULD

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FALL ON US.

OH YEAH.

THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CAN ENFORCE PARKING.

THAT'S NOT THERE.

THAT'S NOT THERE.

OH, I'M ON A SCAN HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION CAN IMPLEMENT THE TAG FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OR THE, THEY CAN'T THE PARKING VIOLATIONS.

CAUSE THAT'S NO ON THE STREET.

I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, I JUST KIND OF HEARD IT BEING KICKED AROUND ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.

I THINK THERE'S MERIT TO IT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE SOMEONE WHO WOULD LOOK INTO, SO GIVEN THE PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU OF THE TRAILER WAS PARKED OUT.

HOW LONG CAN THAT BE THERE BEFORE IT GETS A FIRST NOTICE 48 HOURS? IT CAN'T BE THERE AT ALL.

OKAY.

SO THEN AFTER 48 HOURS, BECAUSE I'M NOT AN AUTHORITY, BUT I STUCK A NOTE ON THEIR DOOR, SO YOU NEED TO MOVE THAT THE CITY WILL TOW IT.

SO THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED.

THEY KNOW.

SO NOW HOW LONG BEFORE, LIKE I CALLED THE MARSHALS.

I KNOW BEFORE I CALL YOU GUYS TONIGHT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A NOTICE ON THAT ONE WHERE YOU GO OUT AND WRITE IT AND SAY, OKAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS.

I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

YEAH.

UM, CAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OLD SOUNDS VEHICLE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

OKAY.

SO THAT ONE'S JUST GOING TO GET A TICKET.

OKAY.

UM, LET ME TAKE THE TICKET TO THEM.

NO.

WHAT DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU NEED A RIDE HOME? I'M ON THESE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

THEY ALWAYS DO.

I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF, OF WHAT WE DO EVERY MONTH FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.

UH, WE RESPONDED TO 422 COMPLAINTS.

UM, ON PARKING WE WROTE ROUGHLY 1600 TICKETS.

WE WROTE PROBABLY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, LIKE 120 WARNINGS AND IMPOUNDED 11 VEHICLES.

UM, I THINK ALL THOSE, ALL 11 OF THOSE WERE, UH, 48 HOUR VIOLATION TYPE THINGS WHERE THEY'D GONE THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS OF WARNING.

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COMPLAINTS COME UP VIA HE ASSIST? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 50%.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE I MEANT TO COVER THIS.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE A COMPLAINT.

UM, YOU CAN CALL THIS PHONE NUMBER.

THAT'S HERE IN BLUE.

THAT'S ANSWERED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE.

UH, WE HAVE A DEPUTY THAT STATION THAT CARVER, UM, AND HE ANSWERS ALL THOSE AND WE'LL INPUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM LAYER INTO ESS.

UM, YOU CAN SIMPLY SEND AN EMAIL TO PARKING QUESTIONS AT GARLAND, TX.GOV.

UM, AND, AND WE CAN PUT IT, WE'LL PUT IT INTO UCS FROM THERE.

W IS THAT ON THIS PAGE HERE? YEAH, RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

AND, UH, OF COURSE YOU CAN USE THE DCIS YOURSELF, THE BENEFITS OF USING UC LIST.

WELL, YOU CAN, YOU CAN UPLOAD A PICTURE AND IF YOU PUT YOUR EMAIL IN, YOU CAN STAY UP TO DATE ON EVERYTHING.

YOU'LL GET A NOTIFICATION EVERY TIME SOMETHING CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE'VE DONE, YOU'LL GET AN UPDATE BY EMAIL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN DONE.

THAT'S ROUGHLY, THAT'S IT? UM, IT'S A NEVER ENDING PROGRAM.

THE DEPARTMENT, UH, WE HAVE, I KNOW WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS RIGHT NOW, SO DON'T PULL, WE, WE EITHER HAVE 21 OR 23.

I'M NOT REAL SURE, BUT IT'S EITHER 21 OR 23 OR 23 OF THEM AT 3 25.

SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

HOW OFTEN ARE YOU ACTUALLY FINDING AND TALKING TO THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? IS IT MORE OF, YOU'RE JUST PUTTING THEM ON THE VEHICLES AND LEAVING OR TO HIM QUITE A BIT.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO OUT ON A 48 HOUR VIOLATION AND THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT AND I'M JUST WAITING ON THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO GET IT.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM.

DO YOU USUALLY KNOCK ON A DOOR JUST TO SEE WHOSE CAR DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S REGISTERED IN THE AREA? WE WILL TRY TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE REGISTERED OWNER.

IF IT'S REGISTERED IN ANOTHER CITY, WE DO NOT BECAUSE NO ONE HAS PHONE.

YEAH.

I IMAGINE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME RUNNING OUT THEIR DOOR.

WHEN THEY SEE OUT FRONT QUIET, WE WEAR BODY CAMERAS.

WHENEVER IN THE PARTY, MY DAUGHTER, SOMEWHERE, WE HAVE TO TWO GUYS THAT DO PARKING FULL TIME.

UH, I SUPERVISE THE PROGRAM, UH, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER GUY THAT DOES KIND OF PART-TIME HE'S FULL-TIME OFFICER, BUT HE COVERS WEEKENDS AND A LITTLE BIT LATER INTO THE EVENING FOR US.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HIRE TWO MORE.

AND I THINK THE COUNCIL IS GIVING THOSE SOME, GIVING US THOSE POSITIONS UNDER THE AUSPICE OF PARKING ENFORCEMENT.

SORRY, AT A SOMEWHAT RELATED QUESTION, I LIVE UP IN FARWELL STATES DURING THE DAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAWN SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUCKS WITH THE TRAILERS AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS CARED.

THE STREETS ARE

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NOT VERY WIDE THERE THEY'LL PARK SOMEWHERE, NOT BE SUPER CLOSE TO THE CURB.

AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS SO MANY PARKED ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO EITHER, EITHER CAN'T GET THROUGH OR YOU GOT TO CAREFULLY SQUEEZED THROUGH, IS THERE ANYTHING ENFORCEMENT WISE Y'ALL COULD DO ABOUT THAT? UM, WE WOULD GENERALLY REFRAIN FROM WRITING THE TICKET IF THEY'RE DOING THE WORK IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.

AND THAT WOULD GO FOR ANYBODY.

YOU KNOW, IF WE PULLED UP ON A TRAILER, THAT'S IN FRONT OF A HOUSE AND WE SEE SOMEONE ACTIVE LOADING OR UNLOADING IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RIDE IT TICKET.

YEAH.

UM, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AROUND.

THEY'RE JUST PARKING WHEREVER AND THEY DON'T REALIZE ALL THERE'S SOMEBODY OVER HERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH, GETTING TOUGH, GETTING THROUGH, YOU CAN CALL US, YOU CAN CALL US ALMOST HALF OF THE ISSUES.

UM, YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET A QUICKER RESPONSE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL, WE ALSO WORK MUNICIPAL COURT, YOU KNOW, PRISONER, TRANSFERS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T IMMEDIATELY GET OUT THERE.

YOU MAY PUT IT IN, IN THE MORNING.

WE DON'T GET TO IT UNTIL TWO OR THREE O'CLOCK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING YOU CAN DO IS TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR OF WHOEVER'S YARD.

THEY'RE WORKING ON AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU TALK TO YOUR GROUP? YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WHILE THEY'RE HERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, UM, MY NEIGHBOR HAS FIVE CARS AND HE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME OVER HERE THAT HE PARKS IN BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HOUSE.

AND THAT CAR STAYS THERE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK.

AND THEN SOMETIMES THEY'LL GET IN IT AND DRIVE AROUND IN IT AND BRING IT BACK.

WHEN YOU SAID YOU, THERE'S NO IDEA OF HOW FAR THEY MOVE THEM.

UM, SO WALK SO HE COULD BACK UP THREE FEET AND BE FINE.

HE'D BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER 48 HOURS, BUT NOT FOR ONE WEEK.

HE DOESN'T, THEY DO NOT MOVE IT TO.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT INTO THAT HAD COME OUT AND, AND TRIED TO TALK TO SO MANY GROUPS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL PUT THESE COMPLAINTS IN, THEY'LL SAY, HEY, THIS CAR'S BEEN SITTING HERE FOR TWO DAYS.

I WANT YOU TO COME OUT AND TELL THEM, WELL, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

IT JUST DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

EVERYBODY GETS THROUGH PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE AS MANY CHANCES AS POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT.

NOW, THE OREGON, LIKE I SAID, IT DOES NOT SPECIFY HOW MUCH THE CAR HAS TO MOVE.

SO IF WE PUT A RED TAG ON IT, COME BACK IN 48 HOURS AND IT'S MOVED A COUPLE OF FEET.

IT HAS COMPLIED WITH THE ORDINANCE.

NOW IN ANOTHER 48 HOURS, YOU CAN CALL IT IN AGAIN AND WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND PUT A RED TAG ON IT.

THAT IS RIGHT.

SO EACH ONE OF THE ESCALATIONS IS A 48 HOUR WINDOW.

RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT EVENTUALLY THEY'LL GET TIRED OF MOVING IT BETTER.

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GET TIRED OF COMPLAINANT, I HAVE, I HAVE NOT, NOT COMPLAINED AND NEITHER HAS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

THAT IT'S A LITTLE IRRITATING THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO SEE US, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.

YOU KNOW? SO, UM, WELL, ONE CAR CAN PARK, BUT IF TWO PEOPLE COME, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK WALKING OUT IN FRONT.

WELL, WE CAN'T BECAUSE I LIVE ON A VERY BUSY STREET AND IT WOULD BE, THAT'D BE ONE OF THOSE.

THAT'D BE TOWED.

I DON'T WANT MY GUESTS TO BE TOWED.

RIGHT.

IS THIS WHERE THEY ANSWER THE PHONE AT THE MARSHALL'S DESK? NO, THE ANSWER AT THE CARVER CENTER.

WHERE'S THE CODE COMPLIANCE.

WE HAVE THE MARSHALL STATION THERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE HAVE ONE CITY HALL, UH, CARVER, G, P AND L.

AND IN THE FRONT OF THE COURT, THOSE CALLS AREN'T HANDLED BY THE WATER DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.

WE, UH, WE HAVE A DEPUTY ANSWERING EIGHT TO FIVE.

AND HOW LATE ARE YOU OUT DOING ENFORCEMENT? NINE O'CLOCK.

WOW.

SO YOU CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME HOME AND DISCONNECT THEIR TRAILER AND YEAH.

AND, AND THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF RAMP UP ENFORCEMENT ON THE WEEKENDS.

WE'RE PAYING, UM, OR WE'RE NOT PAYING OVERTIME, BUT WE'RE ADJUSTING SCHEDULES SO THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO COME IN AT EIGHT HOURS ON A WEEKEND OR ALTERNATE WEEKENDS.

SO YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO IT ONCE EVERY SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS.

UM, BUT LIKE, WHATEVER, MY TURN I CAME IN AND FATHER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOBODY OUT WALKING AROUND, MOVING AROUND, NOBODY COMING OUT.

HEY, YOU KNOW? UM, AND I FIGURED ALSO IF I GOT OUT TO HER THAT EARLY THEN IF A VIOLATION HAD HAPPENED THE NIGHT BEFORE, IT WAS PROBABLY STILL GOING TO BE IN PLACE.

WHENEVER I CAME OUT THERE, WE DO VARY THOSE HOURS.

SOMETIMES.

ANYTHING ELSE? I FEEL LIKE I'M FORGETTING SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

I'LL GIVE

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EVERYBODY ONE OF MY CARDS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US AT ANY ONE OF THOSE.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ONE OF THOSE CONTEXTS IT'S LISTED IN THAT PAMPHLETS.

WHAT DO YOU PREFER AS ESS IS THIS IS THE BEST, BECAUSE YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH IT TOO.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CARDS.

I APOLOGIZE.

I CAN GET SOMETHING TO YOU THOUGH.

YEAH.

I WAS JUST TO SAY, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, I CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO OUT WITH OUR, OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT I WILL.

I'LL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT I'LL SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.

ALL OF YOU OVER THERE, ANYBODY OVER HERE.

DEFINITELY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

I'LL TRADE YOU.

SORRY.

I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT I HAD MORE THAN THAT IN THE POCKET.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, UM, ABOUT PARKING, UH, OR TICKETS, WE HAVE PEOPLE CALL US ALL THE TIME.

HEY, WE GOT IT.

I GOT A TICKET, BUT I'VE LOST IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AND LOOK IT UP FOR HIM AND TELL HIM WHAT IS DO SO FORTH.

UM, AND I JUST USE THE WORD OF ADVICE.

IF YOU SELL A CAR TO AN INDIVIDUAL TYPE OF LICENSE FOR THE LORD, TAKE THE LICENSE PLATE OFF.

UM, CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF CALLS EVERYDAY.

ALSO HASSLED THAT CAR SIX MONTHS AGO, A YEAR AGO.

UM, IT'S STILL IN YOUR NAME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHOEVER YOU, WHOEVER BOUGHT IT FROM YOU DID NOT CHANGE THE REGISTRATION.

SO IT'S STILL IN HERE.

I SOLD THE CAR TO A GUY WHO DROVE IT TO NEW YORK AND CROSSED THE SCARBOROUGH BRIDGE LIKE 14 TIMES WITHOUT PAYING.

AND I GOT ALL THOSE TICKETS.

AND THERE WAS A FORM YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT WITH THE TEXAS DMB.

YES.

AND THEN THEY START COUNTING IT AFTER THAT, THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE'S CAR, YEAH.

SOME KIND OF A RELEASE OF LIABILITY OR SOMETHING.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE TELL HIM.

HEY, GO, GO TO YOUR TAX OFFICE.

THERE'S A FORM THAT YOU FILL OUT AND THAT'S JUST IN CASE SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS HAPPENS.

SO WHEN YOUR CAR IS USING A CRIME, YOU WANT THAT ON RECORD THAT YOU SOLD IT.

YEAH.

THERE IS A FORM THAT YOU GET WHEN YOU SELL YOUR CAR THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE HIM SIGN TO.

I GREW UP IN FLORIDA TOO.

YOU JUST TAKE YOUR TAGS.

I HAD THE SAME TAGS FOR YOU.

I THINK YOU CAN GO TO THE TAX OFFICE AND GET A ONE DAY TAG UNTIL YOU CAN GET YOUR CAR REGISTERED IF YOU BUY IT FROM SOMEBODY.

BUT WE ALWAYS TELL ANYBODY IF YOU SELL A CARD IN INDIVIDUAL TYPES OF TAGS, UH, ONE LAST QUESTION.

IF YOUR NEIGHBOR DRIVES A COMMERCIAL LIKE VEHICLE, LIKE A SERVICE VEHICLE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING ON THE STREET.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, OKAY.

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OVERNIGHT.

NOW OUR, OUR BOSS WHO IS ALSO AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, UM, REALLY DOESN'T WANT US ENFORCING THAT BECAUSE IN HIS MIND IS TO ENFORCE IT.

YOU NEED TO GO OUT THERE AT SUNSET AND MAKE SURE IT'S THERE.

AND THEN YOU NEED TO BE THERE AT SUNRISE TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF NIGHTTIME OVERNIGHT.

UM, BUT IF IT'S OVERSIZED, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S OVER 9,000 POUNDS, IT'S MODIFIED, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, UH, A FLATBED OR JUST A CAB AND CHASSIS AND THEY PUT A BIG BOOM LIFT ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEN IT'S MODIFIED AND IT'S POLISHED FOOD TRUCK, FOOD TRUCK.

YOU CANNOT HAVE FOOD TRUCK OR TRAILER ANYWHERE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

MY HOUSE CANNOT HAVE THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? DON'T HESITATE.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

LET ME GRAB THOSE CAUSE I'M GONNA STICK ONE ON THE DOOR.

UM, THIS ONE.

YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH ALONG WITH YOUR CARD.

AND WE DID PART OF THIS THAT WAS PRINTING THEIR OWN ON NEIGHBOR'S CAR, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

THEY COULDN'T DUPLICATE THE BADGE SYMBOL.

SO YOU CAN TELL WHAT ARE WE WENT OUT THERE? WE'RE LIKE, OH MAN, IT'S A HORRIBLE JOB, BUT YOU COULD TELL IT WASN'T YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA ONE OF THOSE BELIEVE ME.

I COULD SAY, AND I GIVE YOU THIS WHERE YOU WANT ME TO ASSIST YOU.

OKAY.

EITHER WAY.

YEAH.

I'LL PUT IT NEAR YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU, HUH? OKAY, BUDDY.

OKAY.

WELL, LAST WEEK, I MEAN, LAST MONTH I GAVE THIS EXTENSIVE REPORT AND I'M GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.

UH, ON JULY THE 29TH, UH, I WENT TO WILLIAMS ELEMENT, UH, WILLIAMS, UH, MAYBE THE, UH, UM, UH, EDITION, UH, FOR THEIR BLOCK PARTY.

AND MY JOB WAS

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TO, UM, ANYBODY WHO WANTED TREES COULD, UH, THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP WITH ME.

THEY JUST TOOK A PICTURE OF THE SYMBOL.

AND THEN THEY WENT ONLINE AND I WAS TOLD TODAY BY NANCY NAIL THAT, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAD SIGNED UP FOR TREES.

AND THEN I SIGNED UP PEOPLE FOR, UM, A MAJOR CLEANUP THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OCTOBER THE 23RD IN THE WILLIAMS EDITION AND TODAY, UM, NANCY AND I TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO USE OF COLLECTING THE, UM, SENDING PEOPLE OUT TO COLLECT TRASH.

BUT OUR QUESTION WAS, AND THIS IS FOR URIEL.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE TRASH BAGS? WHEN WE PICK THEM UP, THAT'S ON OCTOBER THE 23RD, IT'S A SATURDAY AND IT'S GOING TO BE FROM NINE TILL 11.

AND WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE PART, BUT THAT'S A REALLY FAIRLY LARGE EDITION.

AND SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE EVERYBODY WOULD BRING THEIR BAGS BACK TO WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAUSE WE CAN USE PART OF THEIR PARKING LOT.

UH, BUT MY ASSIGNMENT WAS TO ASK YOU, WHAT DO WE TALK DURING THE WEEK? SO HE CAN THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN SEE HOW COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS THINK WE NEED A BIG ROLL OFF.

I JUST, YEAH.

SO THAT WILL BE THE MAIN THING.

KIND OF GETTING AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH TRASH IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED.

AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR YOU.

OR IF YOU JUST NEED ADDITIONAL, UH, THE GREEN CONTAINERS THAT MAY BE LIKE THREE, FOUR, MAYBE FIVE OF THOSE, WE CAN DO THAT FOR YOU AT NO COST.

LET'S TALK AND WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

UH, AND SO I DID THAT.

UM, AND THEN LAST THURSDAY I HAD A REALLY NICE MEETING WITH MICHELLE AND WE, WE, WE TALKED, UM, AND MADE SOME ACTUALLY WHAT I DID TALKING TO MICHELLE WAS JUST TELLING HER WHAT KEITH GARLAND BEAUTIFUL DOES OUR PROJECTS AND UH, HOW, HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT.

AND, UM, SHE, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY MEET AGAIN AND DO SOME MORE, MOSTLY WAS JUST GETTING ACQUAINTED WITH THE PROGRAM.

UM, WE STILL HAVE THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER THE SECOND AND NEXT THURSDAY, UH, THE 19TH, I THINK IS THE DATE.

WE'LL HAVE A MEETING OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, PLANNING.

ACTUALLY THE PLANNING IS BEEN GOING ON ALL YEAR, BUT OUR FIRST REAL OFFICIAL MEETING ABOUT, UH, UH, HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE.

AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'LL DO THE SAME PROCESS WE DID LAST YEAR OF PEOPLE ASSIGNING PEOPLE TO A SPOT AND THEY GO THERE AND CLEAN IT RATHER THAN HAVING A CENTRAL MEETING.

AND NO THERE'LL BE NO HOT DOGS, NO HAMBURGERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

SO THE, ALL THE FUND'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF IT, UM, REAL QUICK SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS MICHELLE IS THE NEW SANITATION COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR.

SHE, A LOT OF YOU GUYS KNEW TIANA.

SO SHE REPLACED TIANA ERIC.

YES.

OH, YOU GUYS ARE HARD WORKERS ON THE SPORT.

OH, OKAY.

UH, SO IF ANY OF YOU GUYS ARE HAVING, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, IF YOU JUST WANT THEM TO GO OUT THERE AND TALK TO, TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT RECYCLING, ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, LET ME KNOW, I'LL SET YOU UP.

LIKE I DID WITH BETTY.

YOU GUYS WILL MEET.

AND I'M LIKE I TOLD BETTY THE LAST TIME, A LOT OF THE TIMES WE CAN PROVIDE A LOT OF OTHER RESOURCES SO WE CAN, WE CAN HELP OUT FINANCIALLY.

IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF GREEN OR BLUE BINS THAT CAN BE ISSUED TO ONE HOUSE? YES.

WHAT IS THE LIMIT? 4 0 4 TOTAL OR ANY COMBINATION? TOTAL FOUR TOTAL TRASH.

CAUSE YOU HAVE TRASH AND RECYCLING BOTH BECAUSE I HAVE MORE RECYCLING THAN I DO TRASH.

CORRECT.

SO YOU CAN GET UP TO FOUR FOR TRASH, BUT ONLY ONE FOR RECYCLING, ONE FOR RECYCLING.

AND THEN, UM, THAT'S ABOUT OCTOBER THE SECOND, UH, OUR TRI CITY CLEANUP.

AND I'LL KEEP, KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED ABOUT THAT AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SIGN UP AND THAT'LL BE AFTER NEXT THURSDAY WHEN WE GET, UH, THAT PLAN.

AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE OCTOBER 23RD CLEANUP IN THE WILLIAMS ADDITION IS WILLIAMS ESTATES.

AND THAT LEADS UP TO THE NOVEMBER 13TH RE TREAT.

AND WE HAD A MEETING LAST THURSDAY OF, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE, UH, IN THE CITY WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS.

AND THAT'S THE, THE, UM, UH, G P AND L THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE

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EVENTS PLANNERS, UH, OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.

AND WE WALKED, IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, WE'LL MEET AT, UM, GRINDER AT CENTRAL PARK AND THEN GET THE ASSIGNMENTS, GO OUT, PLANT TREES, COME BACK FOR A DINNER AT GRANGER.

AND SO WE WALKED THROUGH KIND OF THE PROCESS WE WERE GOING TO BE USING ON NOVEMBER THE 13TH.

AND THERE WILL BE NO CITY WIDE GIVEAWAY OF TREES THIS YEAR.

SO IF YOU'RE WANTING ONE, SORRY, UH, THIS IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WILLIAMS, UH, STATES AND WHO HAD TREES THAT WERE BLOWN AWAY IN THEIR TORNADO TWO YEARS AGO.

UM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE AN EVENT AND THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE RESIDENTS WILL BE INVITED TO THAT DINNER.

UH, THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THIS IS GRADY MCCOWEN, AND HE'S IN CHARGE OF PAY SCOTT, VILE PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THE DINNER TO PAY FOR.

UM, UH, T-SHIRTS UM, THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING THE BAND, IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE AN EVENT.

SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SIGN UP TO PLANT TREES SO YOU CAN COME, UH, ENJOY ALL THE FESTIVITIES.

UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT, UH, THAT I'VE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH KIT.

WELL, WE JUST DO THE USUAL THINGS LIKE LAST SUNDAY, THEY DID THE, UH, WORKED AT, UH, ARMSTRONG PARK TO CLEAN THE, UM, FLOWER BEDS.

AND THEY ALSO DO THEM AT, UH, NAMAN AT THE, UH, FOREST.

UH, AND, UH, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THREE PLANTING IS ONLY IN REALLY MISTAKE.

THE TREE PLANTING WILL ALL BE IN WILLIAMSON STATES.

YES.

UH, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO, A TORNADO HIT IN THAT AREA AND PEOPLE LOST LOTS OF TREES.

AND SO THAT'S, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE A 15 GALLON.

SO TREE, SO THIS WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL TREE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GETTING A TWIG, THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A NICE TREE.

SO THAT'S, UM, NOVEMBER THE 13TH, YESTERDAY, THE NUMBER OF TREES PER HOUSE, THEY GIVE YOU TWO THAT CAN ONLY GET TWO TREES AND ALL THOSE SAME SHUMAR RED OAK.

THERE ARE, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF OAK TREES.

YES.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I'M GONNA SAY IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

WE GET THERE, UM, NANCY TANELLE FROM, UH, OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY WOULD LIKE TO BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO, UH, WE'LL PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL? NO, NO, NO.

I FALL DOWN ON THE JOB ON THAT RECYCLING.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS THAT, UM, WE WANTED TO GET REALLY AGGRESSIVE WITH RECYCLING EDUCATION.

WE WANTED TO GO TO HOA MEETINGS.

WE WANTED TO GO TO CHURCHES.

WE TALKED TO GI AS D WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO GI AS D THEY OPENED UP THE DOORS AND THEY SAID, GO FOR IT, TALK TO TALK TO THE CHILDREN.

AND THEN TODAY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE THOUGHT WE, WE FINALLY GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AS FAR AS COVID, BUT WITH WHAT HAPPENED TODAY WITH, UH, JUDGE JENKINS AND HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.

UM, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY EMAILS FROM THE CITY MANAGER SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GONNA OPERATE GOING FORWARD.

SO EVERYTHING THAT I TOLD YOU GUYS THAT WE WANTED TO DO MY BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL WE GO BACK TO LESS RESTRICTIONS.

SO, UH, JUST KEEP HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING CHANGES AND, AND WE'RE STILL ALLOWED TO GO BACK OUT THERE AND IF YOU GUYS WANT US TO GO AND TALK TO, TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, TO YOUR HOA SCHOOLS, LET ME KNOW.

UH WE'LL WE'LL AND WE'LL GO OUT THERE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT US TO.

I KNOW I MENTIONED TO BETTY, UM, WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO, KEEP GOING AND BEAUTIFUL AND EWS, BUT EWS SHOULD PUT A SIGN ON THE BACK OF EVERY DOG ON TRUCKS SAYS DON'T PUT PLASTIC BAGS IN THE RECYCLING.

I MEAN, PLEASE STOP.

THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WHERE, UM, WE'RE REVISING ALL THE, ALL THE POSTERS, ALL THE PAMPHLETS,

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EVERYTHING THAT WE USED TO PASS OUT TO CITIZENS.

I MEAN, I, EVEN AT MY HOUSE AND THEY SIT IN THE SHADE, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS SOME BURNT OFF ANYWAY.

YEAH.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY IS, UM, IT JUST IS SO LIQUID SO FLUID THAT IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.

UH, PLASTIC BAGS REALLY WERE NOT A PROBLEM UNTIL ABOUT WHAT WOULD WE SAY YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

UH, SO PRIOR TO THAT, I RESTOCKED THIS WE'RE ACTUALLY PROCESSING PLASTIC BAGS.

SO IT IS NOT UP UNTIL RECENTLY THAT THEY DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T WANT THE PROCESSES ANYMORE.

SO THEY'RE JUST SCRATCH.

TH TH IT'S THE PROCESSING EQUIPMENT THEY USE.

THEY'RE SORTA THE BAGS GET CAUGHT IN CHAINS AND STOP CONVEYOR BELTS.

THEY CLOG UP SORTERS.

THEY'RE A NIGHTMARE AND THEY HAVE NO VALUE REALLY.

SO WHAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO RECYCLE THOSE BUNDLED.

UH, A LOT OF THE STORES, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GOOGLE THAT, BUT I'LL, AND, UM, UH, IF, IF I'M GONNA MAKE A NOTE, I'LL SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH THE LINK, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STORES THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE YOUR, YOUR PLASTIC BAGS TO, AND THEY WILL RECYCLE THEM.

I KNOW MOST OF THE WALMARTS WILL DO THAT.

KROGER DOES RIGHT HERE ON, UM, UH, GARLAND ROAD AT WALNUT.

UM, HOME DEPOT WAS DOING IT FOR A WHILE.

THEY DO BATTERIES.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE.

WELL, I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING, CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE PACKING PEANUTS THAT FOR A LONG TIME WERE MADE OUT STRICTLY OUT OF STYROFOAM.

YES.

THEY'RE NOW MADE OUT OF OATS.

YOU CAN EAT THEM.

I HAD, OH, WOW.

YES, THEY ARE.

THEY ARE, THEY DISSOLVE IN WATER? YOU CAN ACTUALLY EAT THEM.

CAUSE I'VE DONE IT AS A DEMONSTRATION.

SO IS THERE A WAY, BECAUSE PLASTIC BAGS CAN ALSO BE MADE OUT OF STARCHY MATERIAL, LIKE OATS THAT THEY WOULD DISINTEGRATE OVER LIKE A WEEK OR TWO, THE PROBLEM.

UM, I THINK TIANA GAVE US A FEW OF THEM AS A SAMPLE AND UH, IF THEY GET WET AT ALL GONZO.

YEAH.

AND SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS JUST YOU'RE DEALING WITH LEAKS THEN.

AND THAT'S HOW THE CORN STARTS FOR LIKE 20 YEARS.

YEAH.

THE PROBLEM IS, AS A RECYCLER, YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND THE STYROFOAM ONES UNTIL YOU START ADDING WATER.

THEY LOOK AT EXACTLY WELL, YES, BUT IT'S AN INEFFICIENT SORTING PROCESS.

AND THE KEY TO RECYCLING, IF WE SHOULD SAY THIS AT EVERY MINUTE AND THE KEY TO ALL RECYCLING IS GOOD SORTING I'M FEELING TOO.

I WANT TO BRING UP ANOTHER KIND OF RECYCLING THAT REALLY DOES NOT APPLY TO EITHER OF YOU.

BUT I, UM, I'M MY CHURCH.

WE DO QUILTING AND MAKE CLOTHES FOR PEOPLE.

AND THEN PEOPLE DONATE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT USE.

SO I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF THE FABRIC BY RECYCLING AND FOR A LONG TIME, WHEN, UH, THE NEW BEGINNING CENTER HAD A, UM, A RESALE SHOP AND, UH, RIDGEWOOD, THEY HAD A RECYCLE MAN AND I COULD TAKE IT TO THEM.

SO, UH, THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

AND SO I CALLED THE CURRENT ONE, WHICH IS UP IN MCKINNEY.

NO, THEY DO NOT TAKE THEM.

AND SO I ASKED THEM THIS LAST MONTH AND URIEL SENT ME A NAME OF PEOPLE IN, I THINK IT WAS PLANO.

WAS THAT THE ONE THAT, SO I CALLED THE PEOPLE IN PLANO AND THEY SAID, NO, WE DO NOT TAKE THAT, BUT TRY THE PEOPLE IN MCKINNEY.

SO I CALLED THEM THE MCKINNEY, UH, RECYCLING SANITATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, NO, WE DID NOT TAKE THAT.

BUT I, THEY SENT ME A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO POSSIBLY WOULD, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CLOSEST PLACE I FOUND WAS LIKE IN NEBRASKA OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, THAT WILL TAKE FABRIC.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, AND SO I CALLED GOODWILL AND I ASK, AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU GET THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T USE A SHIRT WITH A SLEEVE TORN OFF OR SOLD BEDDING OR WHATEVER, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT? DO YOU RECYCLE IT? AND SHE SAID, THEY SAID, NOPE, WE PUT IT IN THE TRASH.

AND SO THERE'S THE SALT TO THE RAG MAN.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I USED TO DO THAT, BUT THEY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.

AND I CANNOT FIND ANY I DID.

I SENT YOU, I ANSWERED YOU, BUT I DIDN'T SEND IT.

OH, WELL THAT I DIDN'T READ IT.

WHAT FABS CRAP, YOU KNOW? AND SO I HAVE CALLED ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

UH, AND IT REALLY UPSETS ME TO THROW THAT IN THE TRASH.

AND, UH, IT UPSETS ME IF YOU THROW IT IN THE TRASH TOO, BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST THROW THEIR CLOTHES AWAY.

AND IT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THAT FABRIC TO, UH, DISINTEGRATE.

AND I BET IT GETS TANGLED UP AND STUFF AND ALL THAT.

SO I AM ON THIS CAMPAIGN AND MY PEOPLE THAT

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I WORK.

SO WITH, THEY CALL ME, YOU KNOW, THE FABRIC POLICE, CAUSE I KNOW DON'T THROW THAT AWAY.

WE'LL RECYCLE IT.

YEAH.

NOW I CAN'T FIND ANYBODY TO RECYCLE, WHICH IS NOT A PROBLEM TO MOST PEOPLE, BUT IT IS TO ME AND TO MY GROUP AND TO THE PEOPLE AT THE GOODWILL STORE AND TO THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND THE SHADY RECYCLING STUFF.

UH, AND THERE IS THIS HUGE, UM, THRIFT STORE ON GARLAND ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THE KROGER STORE CALLED TEXAS THRIFT.

AND I CALLED THEM AND I ASKED WHAT THEY DID WITH THEIRS.

THEY GET TONS OF CLOTHES AND TONS OF STUFF.

THEY PUT IT IN THE TRASH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE A CAMPAIGN TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

BUT IF, WHEN YOU SEE THEIR TRUCKS ROLL IN WITH ALL THAT STUFF, IF IT'S NOT USABLE, IT GOES IN THE TRASH.

IF PEOPLE LIKE DELL DONATES, MOST OF THEIR ELECTRONICS, RECYCLING TO GOODWILL, GOODWILL SELLS IT AND IT GETS EXPORTED TO CHINA.

THEY SELL IT AT A PUBLIC AUCTION.

THE SPENDING, I GET A FLYER FROM THE KIDNEY PEOPLE A LITTLE, THEY DO NOT TAKE FABRIC, CLOTHES, CLOTHES, BUT FABRIC USABLE CLOTHES.

THIS IS WHAT THE KID PICK.

THEY SAY, I DONATE TO THEM TOO.

AND THEY'LL SAY GENTLY USED CLOTHING.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE TO SELL, BUT WHEN THEY GET SOMETHING, THEY CAN'T, THEY PUT IT IN THE TRASH BECAUSE I HAD BEEN CALLING ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES TO SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIRS.

SO IF YOU HAVE A SOLUTION, LET ME KNOW.

AND I WROTE THAT ONE DOWN THAT MOB JUST SAID, AND I'LL TRY THEM.

YOU CUT IT IN SQUARES AND QUILTED.

THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CANNOT USE IT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T USE NET.

WE CAN'T, WE DON'T USE SAT AND WE DON'T USE, UH, WE USE A HUNDRED PERCENT COTTON AND THEN WE CUT OFF THE, UH, BATTING.

WE DON'T USE, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE STRIPS AND BATTING AND BE STRIPS OF CUTOFF STUFF.

UM, AND WE JUST ALWAYS HAVE HOW THOSE, AND WE HAVE BAGS OF THEM THAT I'M IN CHARGE OF.

AND SO NOW I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I PUT SOME IN THE TRASH.

SO IF YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THEM WILL LET ME KNOW, UH, A TERM AND RECYCLING IT'S THAT, UH, HOPEFUL, RECYCLING.

THEY HOPE IF THEY DROP IT INTO A RECYCLING BIN, ASPIRATIONAL, ASPIRATIONAL.

THAT'S THE LAST WORD.

ALL RIGHT.

KEN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT HAVE NOTHING THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE NOT VERY INVOLVED.

UM, COMMUNITY INITIATIVES, ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? KAYLA? YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT CODE, UM, SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PARKING.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO? WELL, YES.

YEAH.

UH, AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS, I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ARTICULATE BETTER, BUT, UM, YEAH, IT CAME TO ME WHEN I REMEMBERED THE PARKING TICKET I GOT WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, UP IN CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS, UM, WHICH I NEVER PAID BECAUSE THE VEHICLE WAS IN MY DAD'S NAME AT THE TIME.

UH, BUT THAT MADE ME THINK THAT WAS AN EFFECTIVE METHOD OF CURTAILING STREET PARKING.

IS THERE SOMETHING NOW GARLAND IS FAR, FAR BIGGER AND THERE ARE LOTS OF AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE STREET PARKING PROBLEMS. SO IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AT A CITYWIDE LEVEL DOWN? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK, YEAH, BUT THEN AGAIN, IF, IF THE HOA IS, HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT CONTROL OVER PUBLIC STREETS, WHAT THEY THINK THEY DO WELL, YEAH.

WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER SOMETHING.

UM, BUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN IDEA THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ARTICULATE OR WORKSHOP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UH, RIGHT NOW I, I SEE THAT AS THE ONLY, ONLY WAY TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE ON THESE ALREADY VERY ARE, ARE ALREADY VERY CROWDED STREETS, YOU KNOW, MINIMIZE, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN CHICAGO AND, UH, WE HAVE STREET CLEANING LIKE ONCE A MONTH, THEY COME DOWN YOUR STREET AND YOU CAN'T PARK ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET ON WEDNESDAY.

AND JUST EVERYBODY MANAGES TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY JUST TOOK IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL LOST A CAR THAT WAY.

AND I WAS LIKE, OH MAN, I DIDN'T MOVE MY CAR ON TIME.

THEY CAME AND GOT IT.

AND I DON'T THINK IRELAND WOULD EVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, UM, EVEN IF, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO JUST HAVE SORT OF A MINIMAL

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PRICE FOR A, A YEARLY PARKING PERMIT AND IN SOME SPECIFIC AREAS, UM, THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO PREVENT, UH, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO MARK THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE PARKING IN.

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH CHALK.

WE KNOW THAT.

YES.

WELL, I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS, IS, IS THE FACT THAT THE STREETS ARE PUBLIC.

YEP.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.

SO, SO ANY, ANYTHING WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY CAN, UM, SEE THE, UH, I'LL MENTION THAT IT'S REALLY, NOW WE KNOW THAT ALL THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE IS GOING TO DO IS JUST ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

SO UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING THAT EXISTS, THE MARSHALL'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITTLE THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT.

SO YES, I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE PARKING IN THE WRONG WAY, SAID YOU PROBABLY HAD ANOTHER SPIN.

I'M OLDER THAN SOME OF THE PEOPLE.

AND WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD, I LIKE TO SEE THOSE TAIL LIGHTS REFLECTED AT ME.

AND WHEN YOU DON'T, YOU START THINKING, AM I ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD? AM I GOING THE WRONG WAY? BECAUSE AT DUSK THINGS CHANGED FOR US.

NO, I GREW UP IN CALIFORNIA AND I HAD NEVER SEEN PEOPLE PARKING ON THE WRONG SIDE UNTIL I CAME TO .

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU IN, GET OUT ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE? AND IT'S CLOSER TO THE DOOR IN CALIFORNIA.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU'LL GET TOWED.

BUT ONE THING, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MENTIONED THAT IN THE OMINOUS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO CARS PARKING CROSS ACROSS, AND IF ANYONE CALLS 9 1, 1 AND THE FIRE TRUCK CANNOT PASS, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BREAK.

YES.

YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

HE, THEY CAME AND MENTIONED IN OUR HOME, ON THE SMELLY.

YES.

I LIVED IN A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WHO SAID YOU COULDN'T PARK OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

AND I CHALLENGED THEM.

AND ONE, THAT ONE, IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME, I CAN'T PARK OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, ANY TAXES TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

I HAD A HOUSE IN GOTLAND, UH, ON SANDRA WITH, AND I ALWAYS BROKE.

BUT THAT TIME THERE WERE MANY CARS.

SO I PARKED IN FRONT FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NEVER HOUSE.

AND HE CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU CANNOT PARK HERE.

YOU HAVE TO PARK IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

NOW WE KEEP THE NOISE.

WE CAN PARK WHEREVER WE WANT TO GO TO AND LEAVE IT FOR 48 HOURS.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE, UH, I SEE JOHN BALL OVER THERE WAITING FOR COMMENTS.

COME ON UP, JOHN.

LET'S HEAR WHAT YOU GOT.

GOT THIS LAST REPORT.

UH, JOHN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

PLEASE GIVE US A, IF YOU WANT TO SIT IN THE FRONT OVER HERE SO WE CAN, IT HAS TO BE RECORDED.

OKAY.

BUT YOU GET THREE MINUTES AND THE BOARD CAN NOT RESPOND.

UH, CAN NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IS, IS, IT HAS TO BE STATEMENT FROM YOU BEFORE I SIT DOWN, I CAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARKING.

I'VE TRIED TO WORK ON THAT, JOHN, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

REMEMBER, ALL RIGHT.

IT SEEMS LIKE MY LAST REPORT, SOMETHING GOING TO SOMEBODY SOMEPLACE ELSE.

ANYWAY, THIS REPORT CONCERNS NORTH TEXAS AND NORTH TEXAS WATER COMMUNITY.

I MISS WATER DISTRICT.

AND THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE ANY WAY.

NORTH TEXAS DOES A LOT MORE THAN JUST SUPPLY WATER.

THE THREE TO 13 MAJOR CITIES IN 31 MINOR COMMUNITIES AND CITIES.

THEY ALSO MANAGE A LANDFILL AND MANAGE IT.

BUT OUR RESERVOIR OVER 600 MILES OF LARGE PIPING, UH, AN EDUCATION ON WATER CONSERVATION, SHORELINE MANAGEMENT, BUILDING PERMITS, UH, ALONG WITH THE, UM, UH, THE SHORELINE MANAGEMENT, THEY MANAGE 18 PUMP STATIONS.

ONE OF WHICH IS THE LEONARD PUMP STATION, WHICH IS NEW, UM, WHICH IS UNTREATED WATER.

AND WHICH