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OH, GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 15TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN
[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
COMMISSION. WE ARE GETTING READY TO START OUR BRIEFING SESSION.SO AFTER YOU START THAT, I CAN TELL THEM THE.
OK. YEAH, YEAH, HE'LL BE RIGHT OUT.
SO IN ABOUT SIX SECONDS HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR BRIEFING SESSION. THANK YOU. SO I THINK I MESSED UP KIM'S PRESENTATION.
WELL, THE ARROWS. UH OH, HERE IT IS.
OK. YEAH. IS IT FORTY TWO? OK, JUST YEAH.
I REMEMBER WHEN YOU START IT, IT'S LIKE DUPLICATE.
OK. YEAH. REALLY? GOOD EVENING. GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE MEETING BY ASKING IF ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES OR ANY OF THE PLATS? GOOD TO GO. OK.
OK, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 21-42.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO EXPAND THE EXISTING HOME DEPOT FOR A TWO RENTAL CENTER STORAGE ROOM AND A PROPOSES OUTDOOR RENTAL FOR EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKS.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THIRTY TO SIXTY ONE NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND THE ACREAGE IS 11.66 AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NINETY SEVEN TWENTY THREE. THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN TEAL.
THIS IS NORTH GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY AND THEN THIS IS KRIS ROAD.
THIS SITE IS PRIMARILY SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF RETAIL USES AND THEN ALSO RESTAURANT USES. AND THEN ACROSS FROM THE HIGHWAY, THERE IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZERO TO TWENTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS COMMUNITY CENTERS, AND THIS USE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE AREA AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THE HOME DEPOT AND THEN ACROSS THE HIGHWAY IS THE FIRE WILL. AND TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST IS RETAIL USES.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THE PROPOSAL THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING BY FOUR THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE A TOOL RENTAL CENTER STORAGE ROOM FOR PICK UP ITEMS AND THEN ALSO A TWO RENTAL FOR LARGE TOOLS.
ALSO IN THIS SITE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO STORE LARGE EQUIPMENT WITHIN 10 PARKING SPACES AND THEN FOR TRUCK RENTALS WITHIN THE EIGHT PARKING SPACES.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE PICTURES FROM DIFFERENT HOME DEPOTS.
THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED IN ROWLETT, AND IT SHOWS THE LARGE EQUIPMENT AND THEN ALSO THE TRUCK RENTALS.
THIS IS A CLOSE UP SITE PLAN SHOWING THE BUILDING EXPANSION FOR THE TOOL RENTAL, THE STORAGE ROOM AND THEN ALSO THE ENCLOSURE FOR THE TOOL RENTAL CENTER AND FOR THE TOOL RENTAL CENTER ENCLOSURE, THE APPLICANT WILL JUST STORE LIKE LARGER EQUIPMENT LIKE LADDERS.
THIS IS THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THEY ARE MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS PER THE GUARDIAN
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DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEY ARE JUST KEEPING THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING.THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING EXPANSION, AND THIS BUILDING EXPANSION IS MEETING THE GDC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUILDING DESIGN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND BE MAILED OUT TWENTY SIX NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I SEE NONE.
I KNOW, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WE GOT IT RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSION, THE REQUEST, AND I'M SORRY, I THINK I GOT THE WRONG CASE. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THAT.
I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE.
ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL AND A PLAN FOR FUEL PUMPS RETAIL.
BASICALLY, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE RENEWAL OF AN SUP TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF A GAS STATION AN EXISTING GAS STATION.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1810 WEST KINGSLEY ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL, WHERE CONVENIENCE STORES AND RETAIL ARE ALLOWED BIKE RIDE. HOWEVER, FUEL PUMPS ARE PERMITTED ONLY BY SUP.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA AS TO WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY.
SITE IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF WEST KINGSLEY ROAD AND CORTEZ DRIVE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS IN ADDITION TO RESIDENTIAL COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS ALLOW USES COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE, RETAIL AND SERVICES, OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES.
THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY TAKEN FROM KINGSLEY ROAD, FULLY DEVELOPED.
AND THESE ARE IMAGES OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
BACK IN 1998, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN SUP AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MULTITENANT BUILDING AND FUEL PUMPS.
THE APPROVED AGP WAS FOR 20 YEARS.
THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS SEEKING TO RENEW THE SUP TO CONTINUE THE SALES OF FUEL.
HERE'S A THE SITE LAYOUT, THE EXISTING SITE LAYOUT, IT CONSISTS OF THREE FUEL PUMPS UNDER A CANOPY MULTITENANT BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE AND IS NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW LAND USES UNDER THIS APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE SUP FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS.
THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUY RECOMMENDS A RANGE OF 20 YEARS TO TWENTY FIVE YEARS.
SO IN THAT RESPECT, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT WITH WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SENT OUT FIFTY EIGHT NOTIFICATIONS AND WE GOT ONE RESPONSE AND
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THEIR RESPONSE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST.WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. GOOD JOB.
THANK YOU. AT LEAST IT'S NEW TO US.
YOU MAY HAVE HAD IT FOR A WHILE.
OK. THIS IS FOR Z 21-48, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DWELLING UNITS.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY NINE POINT EIGHT ACRES.
SINCE THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, THE RED STAR IDENTIFIES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SAYS NEAR THE FIRE WHEEL TOWN CENTER.
SINCE THE LOCATION MAP, THESE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR AND IT IS BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZERO THREE FIFTY THREE AND THIS PORTION IS IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT EIGHTEEN THIRTY THREE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED PD 0225 AND IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND IT IS ALSO VACANT.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS PART OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 1833 AND IT IS DEVELOPED WITH A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX AND PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ACROSS FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY IS FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE INVASION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS REGIONAL CENTERS.
THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
THE TOP LEFT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY.
THE TOP RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THAT IS THE FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX.
NOW, THIS IS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN FOR TWENTY EIGHTEEN, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
LOT ONE IS DEVELOPED WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND LOT TWO IS A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.
LOT, THREE IS FOR RETAIL AND LOT FOUR IS FOR MULTIFAMILY.
AND EACH TRACT IS SUBJECT TO DETAILED PLAN APPROVAL PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH DOES SHOW A TOTAL OF FIVE BUILDINGS AND A TOTAL OF TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY UNITS.
AND THE PRIMARY ACCESS IS FROM FIREWHEEL PARKWAY, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER ACCESS WHICH IS FOR RESIDENT ONLY THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE SOUTH AND IN PD EIGHTEEN THIRTY THREE.
THERE IS A RESTRICTION THAT ONLY A TOTAL OF EIGHTEEN HUNDRED UNITS ARE ALLOWED, AND FOR LOT ONE, IT WAS FOR THREE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN UNITS.
THIS PROPOSAL HAS TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY UNITS, AND THAT REDUCES THE FUTURE AVAILABLE NUMBER TO TWELVE POINT THIRTY ONE UNITS.
AND THIS PROPOSAL DOES COMPLY WITH THE DWELLING UNIT MIX AND ALSO WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS THE AMENITIES.
THIS IS THE POOL COURTYARD AREA, OVER HERE TO THE NORTH IS THE DOG PARK AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE GAME LEISURE AREA.
AND PD 1833 ALSO EMPHASIZES ON PUBLIC SPACE, SO THEY ARE PROVIDING SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND LANDSCAPING ALONG FIREWHEEL PARKWAY.
AND THERE IS A STIPULATION IN PD 0353 THAT THE SETBACK ALONG FIREWHEEL PARKWAY SHOULD BE 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 20 FEET AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN WHICH LIMITS THE DEPTH OF THE PROPERTY.
ALSO, PD ZERO THREE FIFTY THREE EMPHASIZES ON CONNECTIVITY, AND THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED
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WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE A TRAIL EASEMENT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE TRAIL ALIGNMENT.SINCE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS PER THE GDC.
THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATION, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS PER THE GDC. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FIVE BUILDINGS, BUT THERE ARE FOUR BUILDING TYPES.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF FIFTY THREE FEET FOR BUILDING TYPE A AND B, AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 40 FEET FOR BUILDING TYPE C AND D.
THIS IS ALSO PART OF BUILDING A.
BUILDING A. THIS IS BUILDING B.
THIS IS THE CARPORT AND DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE ELEVATIONS.
AND SINCE THE SUMMER TABLE, AND THE ONLY DEVIATION IS FOR THE SETBACK ALONG FIREWHEEL PARKWAY AND THE REQUIRED IS 30 FEET AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 20 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH DOES ALIGN WITH THE BUILDING SETBACK ESTABLISHED IN THE GDC.
AND THIS DEVIATION IS REQUESTED BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN TO THE REAR OF THE SITE AND IT LIMITS THE DEPTH OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING POSITION ALLOWS FOR GREATER SPACE FOR AMENITIES BEHIND THE BUILDING. MOREOVER, THE REDUCED SETBACK PROVIDES A MORE URBAN STREETSCAPE ALONG FIREWHEEL PARKWAY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PD 18-33 AND PD 03-53 AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN.
AND WE SENT OUT TWENTY TWO LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, HOW'S IT GOING THIS EVENING? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL, ABOUT TO ASK A QUESTION THAT IS PROBABLY NOT SMART, SO BEAR WITH ME.
OK. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WAS NO DETAILED PLAN ON FILE, SO WE'VE GOT TO REVIEW THE DETAILED PLAN AS WELL.
SO THE QUESTION I'VE GOT IS WHAT'S THE ACTUAL CHANGE OF THE PD THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IF WE'RE IN CONFORMITY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ZONED ORIGINALLY FOR MULTI FAMILY.
THEY PUT IT IN A MULTIFAMILY THERE.
WHAT'S THE CHANGE? WHAT'S THE DEVIATION? SO PD 18-33 REQUIRES A DETAILED PLAN APPROVAL FOR FUTURE TRACTS SO THIS ANY TRACT IN THE PD 18-33 WOULD REQUIRE A DETAILED PLAN THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. OK.
AND THE ONLY DEVIATION IS INSTEAD OF A 30 FOOT FRONT BUILDING LINE GOING THROUGH 20 FOOT FRONT BUILDING LINE. OK.
THAT I THINK I'M CLEAR AS MUD.
IF YOU'VE GOT IT, YOU MENTIONED REGARDING THAT DEVIATION.
YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT THE DEVIATION IS REQUESTED BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS CONCERNED OF THE DEPTH OF THE APARTMENTS, RIGHT? SO REALLY, IT'S A VOLUME QUESTION.
THEY WANT TO BUILD A CERTAIN NUMBER OF APARTMENT AND IN ORDER TO KEEP TO THAT NUMBER, THEY'VE GOT TO ASK FOR THIS DEVIATION.
COMMISSIONER LUCHT. UH WHAT KIND OF FENCE OR LANDSCAPING WILL THEY HAVE ALONG FIREWHEEL PARKWAY, IF THAT DISTANCE IS SHORTENED TO 20 FEET? THEY'RE PROVIDING AND COMPLYING WITH THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THERE'S NO FENCE REQUIRED ALONG FLYWHEEL PARKWAY.
OH, BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED WITH THE CANOPY TREES AND THE SHRUBS. IS THAT A SIDEWALK? THERE IS A SIDEWALK.
HOW LARGE IS IT? IS IT JUST STANDARD? IT'S THE STANDARD, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT TWO THAT PROBABLY JUST MORE FOR MY INFORMATION PURPOSES, SINCE THE DEVELOPER TO THE SOUTH IS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER, A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER.
IS THAT ACCESS TO IT GOING TO BE OPEN OR IS IT A CONTROLLED ACCESS JUST FOR FIRE? AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT KNOWS THAT THE RESIDENT ONLY ACCESS? YEAH. YES, IT'S ONLY FOR RESIDENTS.
OK, SO THERE WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE TRAVEL BETWEEN THE TWO.
IT'LL BE OPEN FOR TRAVEL BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS?
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OK. THE OTHER QUESTION IS I NOTICED ONE IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY ELEVATORS IN THERE. AND THE APPLICANT PROBABLY KNOWS THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO CLIMB UP FOUR FLIGHTS OF STAIRS.BUT THEN AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY.
OK. THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 21-49.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A EXPANSION FOR A CAR STATION PARKING LOT FOR A CAR MAX.
THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 12, SEVEN ONE FIVE.
LYNDON B. JOHNSON FREEWAY 21, 10, 21 OH ONE AND 22 OH ONE MILLAY BOULEVARD.
THE ACREAGE IS 4.408 AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 97-12.
THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.
THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT.
BOTH OF THESE SITES ARE PRIMARILY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND THEN ALSO INDUSTRIAL. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONE INDUSTRIAL, AND IT'S DEVELOPED WITH A SELF-STORAGE USE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST IS ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
00-21, WHICH IS THE CARMAX AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, IS ZONED PD 71-7, WHICH IS DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS, AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OF MILLAY BOULEVARD AND THEN THIS IS THE PART.
I'M SORRY. THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE CARMAX.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OFF OF LEON ROAD, WHICH IS THE SELF-STORAGE USE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES TO THE EAST.
AND THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
IT SHOWS THE EXISTING CARMAX AND THE PROPOSED STAGING AREA ALONG MILLAY BOULEVARD.
THIS IS A CLOSE UP SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO EXPAND THE PARKING AREA OF TRACT 1A OF THE CAR MAX INTO TRACT TWO, WHICH IS HERE FOR A STAGING AREA FOR CARMAX.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SIX HUNDRED AND NINE PARKING SPACES FOR THIS STAGING AREA.
AND WITHIN THIS STAGING AREA, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH MESH MATERIAL, ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE SCREENING OF THE CARS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
AND THEN ALSO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, 97-12 REQUIRES THAT NO TREES, NO GREATER THAN 50 FEET ON CENTER ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY ARE ALLOWED.
HOWEVER, THERE IS AN EXISTING WALL DRAINAGE CREEK IN DENSE SHRUBS AND TREES THAT CREATES A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, THE EXISTING WALL IN THE DRAINAGE
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CREEK AND THE ADDITIONAL VEGETATION, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE LANDSCAPING ALONG MILLAY, IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS WHICH IS ALONG THE OTHER SIDE OF MILLAY BY THE CARMAX DEALERSHIP.SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, PD 97-12 REQUIRES EXTERIOR PARKING LOT LIGHTING, AND IT IS REQUIRED FOR THE LIGHTING TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, WHICH IS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND SO THAT ORDINANCE RECOMMENDS TO HAVE THE LIGHT SHINING DOWN SIMILAR TO LIKE A SHOEBOX STYLE. AND SO THE APPLICANT IS THE APPLICANT OCCURS WITH THAT REQUIREMENT AS PER THAT ODOR ORDINANCE.
AS FOR THE CONSIDERATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY DEVIATIONS.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, WE MAILED OUT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE NOTIFICATION LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED FOUR THAT ARE AGAINST WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE, THANK YOU.
IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS QUITE LOW COMPARED TO THE TERRAIN AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S BELOW THE LEVEL OF MILLAY, THE ROAD, AND THERE'S ALSO A RETENTION POND IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF CONCRETE THAT PROBABLY THERE WAS A RETENTION POND THERE FOR A REASON.
WELL, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THIS PROJECT, AND THEY THE SITE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. MM HMM.
MM HMM. YEAH. NO GREAT QUESTION.
THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND IF ACTUALLY IF YOU REMEMBER A SIMILAR CASE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE THAT WAS REALLY ALL PAVING, I THINK THEY HAD ONE SMALL OFFICE BUILDING. BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT, THE REQUEST WAS REALLY ALL PAVING AND OF COURSE, OF LANDSCAPING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
I'M PARAPHRASING HERE CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT BUT PER MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY DO ALLOW PARKING AND PAVING WITHIN FLOODPLAIN AREAS WITH, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT PROPERTY AND UNDERSTANDING THE RISK AND ANY USERS WHO HAVE VEHICLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE RISK.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE DETAILS, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE SOME INLETS AND SOME DRAINAGE MITIGATION THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REVIEWED WITH THE APPLICANT'S PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AS WELL. AND ULTIMATELY, THEY THEY APPROVED IT AND PASSED IT ALONG FOR FOR PUBLIC HEARING. OK.
THERE WAS ALSO AT ONE POINT IN TIME, A ACCESS TUNNEL UNDER THE STREET.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I REMEMBER IT BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH IT.
BACK IN THE DAY, THERE WAS A WATER PARK, I BELIEVE, AND THIS WAS THE PARKING LOT.
AND OF COURSE, TODAY THAT PARKING LOT IS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.
I'M SURE IT'S PLANNED TO BE COMPLETELY REVAMPED.
YES, THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE TO REPAVE THE WHOLE THING WITH CONCRETE.
BUT THE ENGINEERING IS OK WITH THE ISSUE, WITH THE THE RETENTION POND NOT HAVING TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE COLLECTED WHAT WAS ON THE PARKING LOT THAT WAS THERE PRIOR TO RUN OFF. YES, SIR.
AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, YOU SKIP IT.
OK. COMMISSIONER ROSE, I AGREE.
I'M CONCERNED WE HAVE SOME RESPONSES WHERE THE FOLKS ARE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RETENTION POND.
AND AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY HAVE TO REALLY DEAL WITH THAT DRAINAGE PROBLEM AND GET THE WATER OUT OF THERE, THEN IT PROBABLY WILL WORK.
BUT IF THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE MAY END UP HAVING A SIX TO EIGHT INCHES OF WATER ON TOP OF THEIR PARKING LOT REGULARLY.
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SHOULD ADD ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM THE APPLICANT TEAM HERE THIS EVENING IS IS THE PROJECT ENGINEER, SO TO SPEAK MORE DIRECTLY TO THAT.ALRIGHTY YEAH, I THINK OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PROBABLY TOOK A PRELIMINARY LOOK AT IT AND THERE'S SOME DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT.
YET, I DID NOTICE THAT THERE ARE ALREADY PARKING CARS THERE.
IS THAT WHY THIS CAME UP OR I DON'T RECALL IT.
I KNOW IT WAS A CODE COMPLIANCE.
OK. ULTIMATELY, THEY HAD THEM UNTIL THE GOT THROUGH THE FULL ZONING PROCESS HAD THEM LIMIT IT TO.
I THINK WE ALLUDED TO THERE IN THE REPORT, BUT IN THIS ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN, IT HAD A KIND OF A FUTURE EXPANSION AREA FOR CARMAX AND PAVED HALF OF IT WITH ASPHALT.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT ASPHALT, RIGHT WILL HAVE TO COME OUT AND CONCRETE GO INTO.
YES, SIR. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTERIM WHERE THEY WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED TO LOCATE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO ALLOW THE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE.
BUT I THINK THERE WAS A PREVIOUS QUESTION I DIDN'T ADDRESS.
BUT YEAH, AND THEN SINCE THE PROJECT ENGINEERS HERE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I SAW SOME INLETS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT, BUT NO INDICATION WHERE THEY'RE GOING THERE, THAT WALL AT THE SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.
I DIDN'T WALK IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOLID.
AND YOU KNOW, IF WATER GETS ON THERE AND THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH BACK BEHIND THE WALL AND EVERYTHING. SO THERE'S SOME ISSUES.
AND IF HE'S GOT A GOOD PLAN AND OUR ENGINEERING SIGNS OFF ON IT, I'LL BE OK WITH IT.
ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR THEM YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THIS IS WHAT ARE THE HEIGHTS OF THE LIGHTING POLES INVOLVED? WE'D WANT A HIGHWAY INTERCHANGE STYLE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOOT TALL LIGHT BOX LIGHT SHINING DOWN. SO I WOULD THINK SOMETHING LOWER AND MORE APPROPRIATE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR SECURITY.
ABSOLUTELY. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THE GDC DOES HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 FEET FOR PARKING LOTS THAT ARE MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED, AND THERE MAY BE A LITTLE HIGH OVER BY THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE LOWER THERE.
YES. SO HOW WILL STAFF AND CUSTOMERS TRAVEL FROM THE EXISTING SITE TO THE NEW SITE? I BELIEVE IT'S JUST A STAGING AREA WHERE THEY'RE STORING CARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH OR NOT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I KNOW THEY HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT.
THEY DRIVE AND THEY WILL JUST BE MOVING THE CARS FROM ONE LOT TO THE DEALERSHIP.
ARE THEY ARE THEY JUST DRIVING FROM THERE TO THE PARKING LOT, LEAVING A CAR THERE AND THEN TAKING CARS OVER? THAT'S MY QUESTION, AND THEY CAN ANSWER IT LATER, BUT THAT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.
SO WE WILL BE IN RECESS UNTIL OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 15TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.
[Call to Order]
IS THIS OUR CUSTOM? WE COMMISSIONERS START THE MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE.YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US IF YOU JOIN US OR NOT.
NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. NEVER HAS.
NEVER WILL. SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND AND TO SERVE THIS CITY.
PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS TONIGHT AND BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE HURTING THROUGH THIS HOLIDAY SEASON AND BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN MILITARY AND ALL THEIR FAMILIES, AND JUST SHEPHERD US TO A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR IN YOUR NAME. WE PLAY. AMEN.
OH, I'M SORRY. [LAUGING] MESSED THAT ONE UP.
TO WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WELL, THEY WANTED ME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT ANYBODY HERE FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NEEDS TO BE NEXT DOOR, AND I GOT SINGLE FOCUSED ON THAT, FOLKS.
ALL RIGHTY. WELCOME TO OUR MEETING AND ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR
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CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES.IF SOMEBODY'S SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL ALLOW YOU MORE TIME AND AGAIN TO REITERATE IF ANYBODY'S HERE FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THEY'RE MEETING IN THE ROOM, RIGHT BEYOND THAT WALL.
ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA ARE THE CONSENT ITEMS.
[Consent Agenda]
CONSENT ITEMS ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE MOTION.I WILL READ THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IN ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ONE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION LET ME KNOW. AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO REMOVE ONE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, SPEAK UP AND WE WILL HEAR IT SEPARATELY.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 1A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE NOVEMBER 22ND, 2021 MEETING.
HOME DEPOT RYAN'S ADDITION REPLAT ITEM 2B PLAT 21-34, HEIGHT'S A CAMPFIRE CROSSING REPLAT ITEM TO SEE PLAY AT TWENTY ONE POINT THIRTY SIX.
DRAPER GARLAND ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT ITEM 2D, 21-37 COOK INDUSTRIAL CONVEYANCE PLAN IT'S ALL THE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM REMOVED? SEEING NONE. CAROLINE RETAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA TO APPROVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY, JUST SPEAK UP.
SECOND, OK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH ONE ABSTENTION BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
ALL RIGHTY ON TO OUR ZONING CASES.
ITEM THREE A CONSIDERATION OF LARS ANDERSEN AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN
[Items 3A & 3B ]
AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 97- 23 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THREE TWO SIX ONE NORTH PRESIDENT BUSH TURNPIKE, AND THIS ONE IS COMBINED WITH ITEM 2 B, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF LARS ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR BUILDING EXPANSION AND OUTDOOR RENTAL OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT ON PROPERTIES ZONE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 97-23.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 3261 NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? LET'S SEE. DO I HAVE ANYBODY? IS THE APPLICAN HERE AND WANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT ALL? I GUESS NOT, COMMISSIONER.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
ANY DISCUSSION? I ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE.
I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE 190 CORRIDOR SINCE MID 80S, AND THIS ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT WE'D ENVISIONED OUT THERE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, EQUIPMENT LEASING AND RENTAL OUTDOOR IS ONLY ALLOWED IN HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITH THE SPECIAL USE PROVISION.
EQUIPMENT LEASING RENTAL INDOOR IS ALLOWED IN COMMUNITY RETAIL.
NOW THIS IS WHAT THE EQUIPMENT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OUT THERE BACKHOES, FRONT END LOADERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I EQUATE IT ALMOST TO CONTRACTORS OFFICE WITH STORAGE OUTSIDE.
AND FOR THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL. AND WE ALWAYS REQUIRE SCREENING FOR EQUIPMENT LEASING.
SECTION TWENTY TWO POINT FIVE TO EIGHT TWENTY SEVEN OF OUR ORDINANCES PROVIDED THAT THE DISPLAY AND STORAGE IS SCREENED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO POINT FIVE TO A 14, AND THAT STATES THAT STORAGE CANNOT BE BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IN THE STREET, NOT HIGHER THAN THE SCREENING.
THERE IS NO PROPOSED SCREENING.
THOSE VEHICLES WILL BE RIGHT OUT ON CHRYST ROAD AND AND SHOULD BE SCREENED, NOT VISIBLE FROM ANY PUBLIC STREET.
AND THEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ZONING FILE 93-27.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A VARIETY OF
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RETAIL, RESTAURANT AND COMMERCIAL SERVICE USES, WHICH ARE NORMALLY ANCILLARY USES TO A REGIONAL MALL AND THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF VALLEY CREEK.AND HAVING WORKED WITH IT ALL THESE YEARS, CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT DISPLAY WAS NOT PART OF THE VISION OF VALLEY CREEK.
SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS, COMMISSIONER OTT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE HOME DEPOT ONLY HAS A FEW LOCATIONS.
IT HAS EQUIPMENT THAT THEY LEASE.
I BELIEVE IT'S ROWLETT AND ALSO IN DALLAS, OFF OF GARLAND ROAD.
NEITHER OF THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY FAR FROM THIS LOCATION, AND THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE TO ASK ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS TO OR TO ASK HIM WHY THERE'S NO SCREENING.
HAD THEY CONSIDERED IT, AND I TOO WOULD BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
COMMISSIONER LUCHT THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE LACK OF SCREENING AND HOW THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I DO, HOWEVER, LIKE HAVING TOOL RENTAL CAPABILITIES.
SO IF IF WE WERE TO SAY WE APPROVE IT FOR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LARGE EQUIPMENT AND THE PARKING LOT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
WOULD WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE LATE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE SO BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI PART ITEM REALLY WITH THE BUILDING EXPANSION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S THE QUEST TO HAVE THE OUTDOOR RENTALS OF THE VEHICLE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS POSSIBLY APPROVING THE BUILDING EXPANSION, BUT NOT THE OUTDOOR ITEMS. YES, BECAUSE I WILL SAY ON TUESDAY I REQUIRED THE USE OF TOOL RENTAL AND IT WAS VERY NICE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING TOOL RENTAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S SO MUCH RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OVER THERE.
BUT I DO AGREE, DEFINITELY WITH THE LACK OF SCREENING.
I AGREE IT'S NOT THE RENTAL, IT'S THE PLACEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT.
THEY PUT IT SPECIFICALLY OUT THERE ON CRIST TO BE SEEN BY EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S NOT A MALL ITEM.
COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON AGAIN.
OK, IF THIS COMMISSION REJECTS THIS, THIS REQUEST, WHAT IS THE APPLICANT'S OPTION? THEY COULD TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. NOT THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCES GO.
I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT HAD BEEN WRITTEN THAT WAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP EARLIER ON. AT THIS POINT.
FIRST OFF, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING FRONT LOADERS AND BACKHOES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS INTO THAT RENTAL WORLD BECAUSE THAT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND AROUND A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
BUT TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE REST OF IT, I WANT TO RESCIND MY MOTION.
OK. YEAH, IT DID STAY SANE STAFF REPORT THEY LISTED SKIDS, FRONT END LOADERS, BACKHOES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND EQUIPMENT GRANTED TO BE SMALLER EQUIPMENT AND PROBABLY LOOK REAL NICE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT GIVE IT ABOUT SIX RENTALS AND THAT'S WHAT I FEAR.
WE ARE IN NEED OF EMOTION BECAUSE OF WHAT THE STATE DID TO US.
WE DO HAVE TO ACT ON THIS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
APPROVAL, DENIAL, APPROVAL WITH A CERTAIN PARTS OF IT.
AND THAT'S ONE THING. WHEN APPLICANTS DIDN'T SHOW UP, WE USED TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, LET'S POSTPONE IT SO WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM BECAUSE I KIND OF HATE DOING THAT WITHOUT THEM HERE TO RESPOND PERSONALLY.
BUT WE CAN MAKE A STATEMENT CONSOLE.
HEAR THIS, AND WHEN IT GOES TO CONSOLE, THEY WILL HAVE THAT TO CONSIDER TOO.
SO IS THEIR EMOTION COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS, AND THEN WE'LL GO MOVE. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENIED THE REQUEST AS A MADE AND LET THEM GO TO COUNCIL. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND IS PROBABLY A COMBINATION IN THERE, YOU ALL ARE HEADING TOWARDS . COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I THINK WE'VE WE HAVE SUFFICIENTLY DONE THAT, BUT WE'VE NOT VOTED ON IT, SO WE STILL HAVE
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TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND THEN TO APPROVE THE ITEMS, 3C, WE'RE ON 3C AND 3A AND 3B WITH CONDITIONS, WITH CONDITIONS ON LIMITATION ON THE OPERATION OR FUNCTION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOOL RENTAL AS PRESENTED AS AS MENTIONED, EXCUSE ME, NOT PRESENTED AND NOT INCLUDE THE THE HEAVY DUTY TOOL HEAVY DUTY EQUIPMENT RENTAL.ALL RIGHT. JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING TO STORE TRUCKS OUT THERE, WHICH WOULD BE VANS AND PICKUP TRUCKS.
BUT YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION EXCLUSIVE OF THE OUTDOOR STORAGE OF EQUIPMENT, THOSE 10 SPACES, I BELIEVE, ALONG CRIST ROAD.
OK. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS WITH A COMMENT, OK.
TO MR. DALTON, THE HOME DEPOT ON GOLDEN ROAD HAS ALL KINDS OF EQUIPMENT IN THE IN THE PARKING LOT. BACKHOES, TRAILERS, TRUCKS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF TAKES UP QUITE A BIT OF ROOM OVER THERE. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IF WE APPROVE THAT.
OK, IS THERE? IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? LET ME SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND.
OK, COMMISSIONER LUCHT, OK, GO AHEAD.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO DENY THE USE OF TRUCK RENTALS ALSO.
JUST SAYING. WELL, WE'RE KIND OF IN DISCUSSION WITH THAT A SECOND.
LET ME SEE IF THERE IS A SECOND FIRST.
WELL, I DID. I DID SECOND THE MOTION OK, MOTION BY COMMISSION JENKINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER LUFT IS OFFERING THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT COMMISSIONER. JENKINS.
CERTAINLY, WE CAN MAKE THE AMENDMENT CONFORM.
SO WE ARE MAKING APPROVING CONDITIONALLY JUST THE TOOL RENTAL, EXCLUDING HEAVY DUTY EQUIPMENT AND TRUCK RENTALS.
ARE YOU MODIFYING EMOTION SO TO.
YES, TO INCLUDE THE EXCLUSION, THE SPECIFIC EXCLUSION OF THE OF THE TRUCKS TOO? OKAY. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, YOU'RE THE SECOND.
THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING OUTSIDE, RIGHT? BASICALLY, YEAH.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE MAKING SAUSAGE HERE, BUT WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER ROSE AND COMMISSIONER DALTON IN THE QUEUE.
WHAT ABOUT LANDSCAPING? I DON'T SEE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING GOING ON ALONG CRIST ROAD AND OR THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF 190. CAN WE NOT MODIFY THAT TO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT SOME KIND OF LANDSCAPING UP THERE? SINCE WE'RE DENYING THAT OUTSIDE PORTION, IT MEANS THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY REAL CHANGES OUT THERE. WE COULD PROBABLY ADD IT IN, BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF THEY DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THE STORAGE BECAUSE IT'S ADDRESSED IN THE SCREENING. I THINK THAT I BROUGHT UP.
YEAH. OK. COMMISSIONER DALTON OK.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE BUT NOT ALLOW ANY OF THE RENTAL EQUIPMENT TO BE VISIBLE IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
IS THAT BASICALLY? THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BOIL DOWN TO, YES.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR TOOL RENTAL AND THE EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING, BUT NOT ALLOW THE PARKING OF, I THINK IT WAS THE EIGHT TRUCKS AND THE 10 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE MOTION? PLEASE VOTE.
IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE COMMISSIONER ROSE AND OPPOSITION, NOT UNANIMOUSLY THAT PASSES SIX TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE IN OPPOSITION.
NEXT ITEM. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A TWO PARTER, ITEM 2C CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ZONE SYSTEMS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION SUP RENEWAL FOR FUEL PUMPS
[Items 3C & 3D]
AND RETAIL. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1810 WEST KINGSLEY ROAD.ITEM TWO D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ZONED SYSTEM REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR FUEL PUMPS RETAIL AT 1810 WEST KINGSLEY ROAD.
THE APPLICANT HERE. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
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MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.MY ADDRESS IS 1620 HANDLEY DRIVE IN DALLAS, REPRESENTING [INAUDIBLE] INC., WHICH IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY IT'S A SMALL LITTLE.
I'M GOING TO CALL IT A STRIP CENTER WITH GAS PUMPS IN FRONT.
IT RECEIVED ITS FIRST SUP FOR THOSE GAS PUMPS APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS AGO, AND OCCASIONALLY WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON A EXISTING GAS STATION TYPE BUSINESS, I'M CONCERNED BEFORE I GO OUT TO THE SITE WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
BUT I WOULD PROUD TO SAY I'VE BEEN OUT THERE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND IT'S A VERY, VERY CLEAN PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THE OWNERS IN MY WORKING WITH THEM ARE CONCERNED ABOUT KEEPING IT CLEAN, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE MORE CLEAN AND CLEANLINESS, THE HIGHER CLEANLINESS OF THE PROPERTY, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL IT WILL BE.
AND AND IT'S A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL LITTLE PROPERTY, I BELIEVE.
THERE ARE NO VACANCIES THERE, AND IT JUST LOOKS NICE.
SO GIVEN THAT I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO APPROVE A RENEWAL, IF YOU WILL, OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I THINK I SAW SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN.
IF YOU ARE BY ANY CHANCE HERE FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THEY ARE MEETING IN THE NEXT ROOM OVER.
OK, [INAUDIBLE] ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP REQUEST FOR 20 YEARS FOR FILES Z21-47.
ALL RIGHT. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUCK IN THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR TWENTY YEARS.
THAT ONE DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
NEXT, TWO ITEMS AGAIN TOGETHER HERE.
ITEM TWO E, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF WOOD PARTNERS MASTER PLAN REQUESTING
[Items 3E & 3F]
APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 18-33 AND PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 03-53.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3422 FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY.
CONSIDER AND ITEM 2 F CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF WOOD PARTNERS AND MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROPERTY AGAIN IS AT 3422 FIREWHEEL PARKWAY AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, MAXWELL FISCHER WITH MASTER PLAN 2595 DALLAS PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE ZERO THREE FOUR REPRESENTING WOOD PARTNERS TONIGHT.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MULTIFAMILY UNITS NEAR THE FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER. A LITTLE HISTORY WHEN PD 03 FIFTY THREE THE TOWN CENTER WAS CREATED.
THE IDEA WAS YOU'D HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, URBAN STYLE TOWN CENTER WITH ENTERTAINMENT USES, RETAIL, YOU KNOW, OTHER RESTAURANTS.
AND THEN YOU'D HAVE RESIDENTIAL AS A COMPONENT OF THAT TO SORT OF SUPPORT THE RETAIL AND THEN PEOPLE WHO WANT THE LUXURY OF WANTING, HAVING BASICALLY THE ENTERTAINMENT USES AND OTHER RETAIL USES WITHIN A SHORT WALK COULD LIVE THERE AND ENJOY THAT LIFESTYLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY 15 YEARS LATER, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
TWENTY EIGHTEEN WAS APPROVED AND THAT APPROVED EIGHTEEN HUNDRED UNITS, BASICALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF FIREWHEEL PARKWAY.
THAT ALLOWED BASICALLY ALMOST ALL RESIDENTIAL.
THERE IS SOME MIXED USE NONRESIDENTIAL THAT'S PLANNED ON THE CORNER.
AND SO YOU HAVE A LOT ONE, WHICH IS THE LIVELY, WHICH IS BASICALLY DEVELOPING OUT NOW WITH RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THIS WOULD BE SORT OF A PHASE TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPER ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT WE'RE STILL ABOUT TWELVE HUNDRED UNITS TO SPARE AND THE ZONING RIGHTS FOR THIS PD.
SO IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SHOWN UP ON OUR SCREENS? OK? IT'S NOT, IS IT? AND EVEN NOTICE THAT I WAS GOING TO STOP YOU AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, BUT WE'LL JUST DO IT THIS WAY.
IS GOING TO CLOSE THIS AND START AGAIN.
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HOW MANY OF YOU HIT THE WRONG BUTTON? TOO MUCH CAFFEINE.THEY DON'T WANT TO CLOSE. NO PRESSURE.
NO, WE SEE IT SMALL IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
NO, JUST POWERPOINT FOR MILLIONS OF FOLKS OUT THERE WATCHING ON TV, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PRESENTATION WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE IT.
NORMALLY YOU COULD PAN TO THE COMMERCIAL, BUT YEAH.
THAT'S RIGHT, WE NEED TO ADD COMMERCIALS, GET A LITTLE INCOME GOING FOR US HERE.
WHICH ONE IS YOURS? FORTY FORTY EIGHT, I BELIEVE.
IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU? YEAH.
APPLEGATE. OKAY, THAT OUGHT TO DO IT IF YOU HIT EXPAND.
ALL RIGHT. OK, SO PD 18-33 BASICALLY DIVIDED UP PD INTO FOUR LOTS.
SO JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE WITH RELATION TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE PD AND THEN WITH THE TOWN CENTER.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING FIVE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS 250 UNITS, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE ONE BED UNITS, 90 TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND SEVEN EFFICIENCIES.
WE'D MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE TUCK UNDER GARAGES THAT WE HAVE AND THEN COVERED PARKING, SO WE HAVE OVER 50 PERCENT COVERED.
WE HAVE A SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE THAT'S SHOWN THERE IN ORANGE FITNESS BUSINESS WIFI MODIFICATION.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MODIFICATIONS THAT I'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE, BUT FIRST THING YOU CAN SEE THE AMENITY AREA BEHIND THE BUILDING IS FAIRLY LARGE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO AMENITY AREAS.
WE HAVE SORT OF A MAIN POOL AREA AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SORT OF A SPORTS COURT, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS IN A BIT.
BUT ONE OF THE VARIANCES WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO REDUCE THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM THIRTY FEET TO TWENTY FEET.
THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES 20 FEET FOR MULTIFAMILY.
FOR SOME REASON, THE FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER PD REQUIRED 30 FEET, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T REALLY GO WITH URBAN STYLE FIREWHEEL DEVELOPMENT.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT 30 FOOT SETBACK.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR 20, AND THE REASON BEING IS WE HAVE FLOODPLAIN IN THE BACK THAT'S SORT OF MINIMIZES THE DEPTH OF THE SITE.
BUT THEN ALSO IT GIVES US MORE ROOM FOR OUR AMENITY AREA BEHIND THE BUILDING.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I MEAN, THERE'S JUST REALLY NOT A POINT OF HAVING 30 FEET VERSUS 20 FEET ALONG THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ALL, WELL LANDSCAPED.
YOU'VE GOT A BUILDING UP THE ROAD THAT SORT OF ENGAGES THE STREET, BUT IT'S NOT TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET, WHICH WE FEEL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS FOR THE SIZE OF THIS ROAD.
THE OTHER ONE IS THE BUILDING OR ORIENTATION, WHICH IS VERY COMMON WITH MULTIFAMILY, WHERE THE BUILDING FACADE CAN'T BE PARALLEL TO THE STREET.
IN THIS CASE, WE WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS, BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ARTICULATED WELL, YOU KNOW, AND MEET ALL THE ALL THE ARTICULATION AND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH SO IT'S A COMMON VARIANCE THAT IS NORMALLY APPROVED.
ACCESS TO THE SITE IS IN TWO POINTS THERE AND MAIN ACCESS AND THEN ACROSS ACCESS POINT, WHICH WILL BE RESIDENT ONLY ON THE SOUTH END.
WE DO HAVE A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL EASEMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH.
WE'VE ACTUALLY DEDICATED THAT SHOWN IN GREEN.
THERE'S A PLANNED HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL THAT WOULD BASICALLY TIE THE FIREWALL TOWN CENTER TO PROPERTIES TO THE EAST OF HERE.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ASKS US TO DO IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, AT LEAST FROM AN EASEMENT, A LAND AREA DEDICATION.
SO WE'RE DOING THAT. THERE'S SOME GRAY CHALLENGES.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR ENGINEER CLOSELY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT CAN GET PEOPLE SAFELY AROUND AND UP OVER THE FIREWHEEL.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CIRCUITOUS AND DESIGN, BUT THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES.
HERE'S THE ELEVATIONS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THESE.
THESE ARE IN YOUR PACKET THREE AND FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, OUTDOOR AMENITIES, RESORT STYLE POOL, SUN DECK, LEISURE AREA, BARBECUE.
IT'D BE A NICE CLASS A AMENITY AREA AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND AREA, WHICH IS NICE.
WE'LL BE A LITTLE QUIETER WITH SYNTHETIC TURF STRING LIGHTING.
LOUNGE FURNITURE WILL HAVE SOME DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, YARD GAMES THAT ARE THAT ARE POPULAR THESE DAYS IN THAT AREA.
HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF ONE UP ON GEORGE BUSH THAT WOULD PARTNERS DID ALL THE SPRING CREEK THAT SHOWS YOU THE QUALITY OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE NEAR TRINITY GROVES IN DALLAS.
I KIND OF WENT TOO FAST ON THAT ONE.
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AND THIS ONE'S CHAMPIONS CIRCLE, IT'S IN FAR NORTH FORT WORTH NEAR ROANOKE, SO WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT A PROJECT IN A ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY AS A USE AND ALLOWS THE DENSITY AND ADDITIONAL RIGHTS ABOVE WAY BEYOND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE FIRE ONE TOWN CENTER AND WILL SUPPORT THE RETAIL THERE AND BE A NICE MUTUAL RELATIONSHIP THERE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE SHOPPING CENTER.I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT KIND OF A TIME FRAME IS YOUR CLIENT ON? ARE THEY GOING TO IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEY'RE GOING TO SIT ON IT FOR SIX MONTHS OR ARE THEY GOING TO START WORKING ON IT PRETTY SOON? OH, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT RIGHT AWAY.
I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, NO, I MEAN, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO SITE PERMITTING AND PLATING AND PLATING AND THEN SITE PERMITTING AND WON'T BE WAITING ON THIS AT ALL WILL BE BUILDING VERY QUICKLY. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER JENKINS? SURE, GOOD EVENING. AND AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.
THIS QUESTION'S KIND OF TONGUE IN CHEEK.
AND I KNOW THAT YOUR CLIENT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
ANY GROCERY STORES PLANNED ANYTIME SOON.
WE COULD. WE COULD REALLY USE LIKE AN ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, WHOLE FOODS TYPE STORE THERE JUST KIND OF IN THAT AREA.
YEAH, I MEAN, OK, I'M I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T. I HAVEN'T. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMING FORWARD.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE THE MORE ROOFTOP, YOU KNOW, THE MORE RESIDENTS WE HAVE, THE MORE SUPPORT THERE WOULD BE FOR SUCH SO.
YEAH. AND THESE ARE HOT, PRETTY HIGH END APARTMENTS, SO THEY DEFINITELY WON'T HURT.
YEAH, THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
THAT SECOND POINT OF ACCESS, I THINK THAT MAY BE BEFORE THE CONTROL GATE GETTING INTO THAT OTHER COMPLEX.
SO WILL THERE BE A GATE THAT RESIDENTS OF THIS ONE CAN GO OUT AND GO IN WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, PASS CARD OR SOMETHING? YEAH, IT'S A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT.
SO THEY'RE THE NEIGHBOR IS OBLIGATED TO ALLOW ACCESS THROUGH OUR SITE, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COORDINATED OR ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.
SO, YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE WORKING WITH THEM.
JUST THAT IS A RECORD OF MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT, THEN IT IS.
YEAH, THAT'S THE KEY THERE AND A FOUR STORY BUILDING WITHOUT ELEVATORS.
I'M NOT MOVING IN ON FOURTH FLOOR.
YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RECORDED, BUT IT'S REQUIRED WITH WITH ACCESS.
IT MAY BE RECORDED ALREADY. EITHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE RECORDED WITH OUR PLAT AND IT'S YES. OKAY, GOOD.
IT'LL BE THERE. I THINK THAT'S IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WE SPEAK IN THIS CASE, COMMISSIONERS, UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER DALTON.
THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LOOP HERE AND APPROVE.
I GOT YOU GOING AGAIN. THERE YOU GO.
THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED, INCLUDING THE VARIANCE OF THE SETBACK. AND THAT'S BOTH PARTS.
OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE PD MODIFICATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
DETAILED PLAN. ANY DISCUSSION WAS TO SET BACK.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE LAST TWO ITEMS IN OUR AGENDA JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT SKIPPING HERE.
ITEM TWO G CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF STAND TECH CONSULTING SERVICES INC
[Items 3G & 3H ]
REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 00-21 AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 97-12 TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE SALES NEW OR USED.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2101, 2110, AND 2201 MILLAY BOULEVARD AND 12715 LBJ FREEWAY.
ITEM 2 H, CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SANTECH CONSULTING SERVICES INC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES NEW OR USED ON PROPERTY ZONED PD DISTRICT 00-21 AND PD DISTRICT 97-12 AND AGAIN, SAME PROPERTY.
I THINK THEY'RE DISCUSSING WHO WANTS TO COME UP FIRST.
WE'RE EASY AND YEAH, NAME AND ADDRESSES PLEASE.
DAVID SAPPHIRES 13705 WEST IRMA LEE COURT IN LAKE FOREST, ILLINOIS.
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THANK YOU. PAUL HAYNES WITH STANTEC CONSULTING 6080 TENNYSON PARKWAY, PLANO, TEXAS.DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING ON THE COMPUTER? OK. JUST THOUGHT I'D CHECK.
THANK YOU. WELL, I'M MY CLIENT, CARMAX, WHO IS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, IS PLANNING ON DOING A WHAT THEY CALL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
A PARKING LOT AND WORK IN PROGRESS IS ANY CARS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH REHABILITATION, SUCH AS LIKE MECHANICAL CLEANING OR INDOOR PAINTING.
SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE A SMALLER WORK IN PROGRESS LOT TO THE SOUTH.
THEY'RE JUST EXPANDING THIS WORK IN PROGRESS TO THE NORTH IN THAT IN THAT SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S JUST ONE ACCESS POINT TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, ANY QUESTIONS THAT THIS APPLICANT COMMISSIONER LOOKED STAFF GET GET TO THE REMOTE PARKING LOT. WELL, OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY'RE IN THE CAR, THEY'LL TAKE THE CAR.
OTHERWISE THEY'LL CROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, BY FOOT.
RIGHT? PEOPLE SPEED DOWN THAT STREET ALL THE TIME.
I'VE SEEN IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS THAT ROAD? MM HMM. SO THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU DID BRING UP AN ITEM THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.
YOU SAID IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
YES. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY WORK TAKING PLACE? NONE AT ALL ON THOSE CARS IN THAT LOT.
LET ME ASK MR. GUERIN IF WE APPROVE THIS.
WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO DO ANY WORK ON THAT LOT? IT WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE LANGUAGE OF THE.
THIS WAS CLASSIFIED AS AN EXPANSION OF THE AUTO SALES USE, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
BUT THEN AN ANCILLARY USE IS SERVICE IN AN AUTO SALES FACILITY, RIGHT? PERHAPS THE PD COULD BE CRAFTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT THAT NO REPAIRS SHALL TAKE PLACE ON THIS PORTION OF TRACT PORTION OF THE TRACT.
WE COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION.
ALL RIGHTY. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR YOU.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOUR ENGINEER.
AND I THINK HE'S READY TO MAYBE HELP US OUT ON THIS ONE.
PRIORITIES. THAT GOES, IF I DON'T DO THAT, THEN.
YES, I'D BE GLAD TO. I THINK THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.
WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS ACTUALLY BY THE 1998 PLAT.
PARKING IS THE ONLY ACCEPTED USE ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THERE.
THERE IS ALSO FLOODPLAIN ON THE SITE.
CARMAX IS WELL AWARE OF THE PRESENCE OF FLOODPLAIN AND OUR INTENT IS IN A DISCUSSION WITH ENGINEERING. WE'LL DO A ZERO FILL REPAVING, SO NO CHANGE IN GRADE.
THERE'LL BE LITTLE UNDULATIONS TO.
I THINK SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT SURFACE DRAINAGE.
WE'LL HAVE SURFACE INLETS JUST LIKE EXISTS NOW AND WE'LL GO EAST TO THE EXISTING CHANNEL.
THAT'S WHERE DRAINAGE IS TAKEN NOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDRESSES THE DRAINAGE QUESTIONS THAT ARE CONCERNS PEOPLE HAD BEFORE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.
YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, FRANKLY, OUR INITIAL CONCERN WAS BRINGING IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF TIMING, COSTS AND OTHER THINGS DEALING WITH FEMA, IT'S JUST NOT IT'S IT'S JUST NOT VIABLE.
SO THE IDEA IS TO THERE WILL BE SOME RISK THAT CARMAX WOULD ACCEPT TO HAVE SOME PARTIAL INUNDATION, ONE CHANCE IN ONE HUNDRED EVERY YEAR, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK FOR THE USE OF THE SITE.
MY GUESS IS THE I'M NOT TRYING TO SURE CANDY COAT IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE THEIR THOUGHTS.
COMMISSIONER DALTON, I BELIEVE, HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YES, SIR. ALONG WITH THE DRAINAGE AND YOU DID MENTION THE SURFACE THAT PROPERTY IS IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE.
ARE YOU GOING TO STRIP THE ASPHALT THAT'S THERE.
IT'LL BE NEW CONCRETE PAVEMENT, SO IT WILL BE A SOLID CONCRETE, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN ENVISION, I MEAN, WE'LL JUST BE JUST KIND OF A SINUSOIDAL WAVE THROUGH THERE
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WHERE WE'RE DROPPING IN SOME INLETS SO WE CAN HAVE REASONABLE SURFACE RUNOFF AND THEN TAKE IT EAST, HONORING THE SAME DRAINAGE PATTERNS THAT ARE THERE NOW.BUT I UNDERSTAND TOTALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT, I THINK THAT THE LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO BE VERY ATTRACTIVE AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AND MOST OF THE SIDE, I THINK SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS ABOUT TWO TO FIVE FEET BELOW MILLAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE A ROW OF SHRUBS FIRST, THEN MAJOR TREES AND THEN SECURITY FENCING BEHIND THAT. SO IT WILL BE IT WILL LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLAY.
BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY VISUALLY IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE, I THINK.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ADDRESS YOUR.
IT DID. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
ONE OF THE RESPONSES WE GOT MENTIONED THAT EVIDENTLY THEY USED SOME LOUDSPEAKERS ON THE LOT THAT'S THERE NOW IN FRONT TO MAKE TO TRY TO DETRACT POSSIBLE THIEVES FROM GETTING INTO THE LOT.
IS THAT, DOES THAT HAPPEN? OK. I HAVE NO IDEA.
I MEAN, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE WILL ABOUT NOT USING PR TYPE SPEAKERS A LOT. AND IN OUR MIND, IT'S PAVED SURFACE REALLY AMPED UP SCREENING AROUND THE PERIMETER, SURFACE RESPONSIBLE SURFACE DRAINAGE AND MUCH BETTER PAVEMENT THAN EXISTS NOW AND LIGHTING. AND I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN MR. ROBERTS HAD ABOUT LIGHTING.
WE'VE GIVEN THAT PRELIMINARY PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, IT'S STILL IN PROCESS.
I THINK WE WERE TALKING WITH STAFF.
WE WILL HAVE ONE YOU WANTED ONE BY THE 20TH TO GET IT TO US TO YELL BEFORE COUNCIL.
BUT THE PRELIMINARY ONE WE GAVE HAS ALMOST NO FOOT CANDLES AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE 30 FOOT STANCHIONS.
I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY HAD ABOUT 30 FOOT WELL SINCE AND SINCE THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS BELOW THE LEVEL AROUND IT.
IF YOU HAD A 30 FOOT STANCHION OUTSIDE, IT WOULD ONLY BE 20 15 TO 20 FOOT ABOVE THAT LEVEL. SO IF YOU CAN KEEP THE DIRECTION OF THE LIGHTING RIGHT, THE THE AND OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THE THE PRELIMINARY PHOTOMETRIC THAT WE PROVIDED TODAY SHOWS THE CLASSIC SHOEBOX FIXTURES, DIRECTIONAL LIGHTING.
AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE POINTED AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.
AND I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EVERY INTENT THROUGH THE LIGHT VENDOR AND OUR FINAL ENGINEERING DESIGN TO HAVE CONFORMANCE THROUGH THE PD AND CITY REGS.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LUCHT.
UM WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE? AN AUTOMATED GATE? OR YES, THERE'S THERE'LL BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S KEY FOB REMOTE OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S THE SINGLE MAGAZINE DRIVE IN WITH GATE AS YOU COMING DOWN OFF THE OFF OF MILLAY.
DID THEY FILL IN THAT TUNNEL THAT USED TO EXIST BETWEEN? SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT UP EARLIER, I THINK THAT TUNNEL BECAME PART OF THE DRAINAGE.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS.
I SAW THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ALL KIND OF REMINISCING THOSE OF US WHO ARE CHRONICALLY CHRONOLOGICALLY CHALLENGED.
YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GUYS ON MY TEAM SAID, I REMEMBER WALKING THROUGH THERE WITH MY DAD. BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER.
IT SEEMED LIKE IN THE PLANS THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN MILLAY GOT REROUTED, I THINK THERE WAS SOME COMPONENT OF IT EITHER GOT REMOVED WITH THE MILLAY REROUTING OR MAYBE BECOME.
I THINK THERE WAS ADDITIONAL BOXES ADDED FOR THE NORTH SOUTH DRAINAGE UNDER MILLAY, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T DESTROYED, THAT WOULD BE THE PERFECT WAY TO GET CARS TO AND FROM.
IT WOULD BE. AND ALSO, IT WOULD ELIMINATE ANY FOOT TRAFFIC ACROSS THAT STREET.
I HAVE A REALLY I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING TO AND FROM THOSE TWO SITES, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE SERVICEABLE CARS, MEANING THAT THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE TO GET THEM QUITE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEIR FINISHED WITH ONE, GO OVER AND GET ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO COMMISSIONER'S MOTION, DISCUSSION?
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COMMISSIONER JENKINS OOP, GO AHEAD.THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 3G AND 3H AS PRESENTED AND ALSO CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALRIGHTY, DO I HEAR SECOND ON THAT? OR I'LL ASK, WAS THAT GOING TO INCLUDE SOME VERBIAGE TO ELIMINATE ACTUAL WORK BEING DONE IN THE CARS ON THE LOT? FOR CLARIFICATION, I WASN'T CERTAIN THAT WE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE? IS THAT A CONDITION THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION DEFINITIVELY OR ARE WE UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE LANGUAGE BEING? I THINK WE'RE UNCERTAIN AT THIS POINT.
SO IT MAY BE A CYA KIND OF ISSUE.
COOL, CERTAINLY, WE CAN AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT, THAT CONDITION.
ALRIGHTY. OH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT, WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, ADDING A PROVISION THAT THEY NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO ACTUAL WORK ON THE CARS ON THE LOT.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTT.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
THANK YOU. THAT WAS A LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
AND I THINK COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSIONERS HERE.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING WORK THIS YEAR.
IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE AND A HEADACHE AT TIMES, AND THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR US.
THEY MAKE US LOOK REAL GOOD UP HERE, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. AMEN.
[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YES.
YEAH WE'RE DEBATING ABOUT OUR CITY ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, BUT THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
AND TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE AND WONDERFUL HANUKKAH, CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AND NEW YEAR, AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL BACK HERE, JANUARY 10TH.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.