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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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GOOD EVENING, WELL, WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 10TH MEETING OF THE GO AND PLAN COMMISSION.

WELCOME TO THE NEW YEAR AND THIS FIRST PART OF OUR MEETING IS OUR BRIEFING SESSION, OUR WORK SESSION, SO TO SPEAK.

AND SO WE'LL JUST START RIGHT IN WITH THAT.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

I WILL LIKE TO START OFF BY ASKING IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I SEE NONE.

THE. DID YOU HAVE.

OH, OK. ALL RIGHT. NO, WE'RE GOOD.

OK, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z21-44.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO RENEW THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN EXISTING CELL TOWER.

THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 3209 SOUTH SHILOH ROAD AND THE ACREAGE IS 1.94 AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.

THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS SOUTH SHILOH ROAD AND THEN THIS IS OAKLAND STREET.

THIS IS THE OUTLINE, THE OUTLINE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS OUTLINED UNTIL IS THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND THEN ALSO THERE IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

ZERO. I'M SORRY.

TWO ZERO ZERO FIVE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A TEMPORARY OFFSITE CONSTRUCTION CAMPUS AND THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING THIS AREA IS PRIMARILY IN INDUSTRIAL AND IS ALSO DEVELOPED WITH RETAIL.

I'M SORRY, RETAIL AUTO REPAIR AND THEN ALSO TIRE SHOPS.

THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH RECOMMENDS INDUSTRY, AND THIS CURRENT USE IS SUPPORTIVE IN THE INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT SECTOR, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE GENERAL VICINITY AREA, AS THIS AREA WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CELLULAR SERVICE TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.

THIS IS THE EXISTING CELL TOWER ON THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER IMAGE SHOWING THE CELL TOWER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEHIND A EXISTING BUILDING WHICH IS ALONG SOUTH SHALLOW ROAD.

AND THIS IS THE ANTENNA THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM SOUTH SHILOH ROAD.

AND THEN THIS IS EAST OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE TEMPORARY OFF SITE CONSTRUCTION CAMPUS. AND THEN THIS IS JUST THE THE BUILDING THAT'S PROVIDING A SCREENING FOR THE ON THE BASE OF THE ANTENNA ALONG SOUTH SHILOH ROAD.

THIS IS THE SIDE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, THE APPLICANT IS NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING CELL TOWER.

IT WILL REMAIN ON 75 FEET AND 10 INCHES AND ALSO LANDSCAPING IS NOT TRIGGERED BY THIS REQUEST. THERE IS EXISTING BUILDING THAT SCREENS THE BASE OF THE ANTENNA.

AND THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE ANTENNA.

AND THE APPLICANT REQUEST A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO BE IN EFFECT FOR 20 YEARS IN THAT 20 YEARS ALIGNS WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, WE MAILED OUT TWENTY FIVE NOTIFICATION LETTERS, WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR THAT IS INSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND THE TOTAL RESPONSES WAS ONE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? GOOD EVENING. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.

HAPPY NEW YEAR! I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION, BUT I MAY DEFER

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TO THE THE RIGHT HONORABLE GENTLEMAN HERE SITTING NEXT TO ME, COMMISSIONER DALTON.

WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SHELF LIFE OF THESE ANTENNAS? NO CHANGES ALSO MEANS NO IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS, GOING TO BE THERE FOR ANOTHER 20.

HOW LONG ARE THESE THINGS LAST GENERALLY? BUT I AM NOT QUITE SURE.

YEAH, I FIGURED THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFOREHAND.

DIDN'T WANT TO BOTHER YOU SINCE YOU TWENTY THOUSAND EMAILS AND THE STUFF I FOUND ONLINE WAS CONFUSING.

SO I WAS HOPING YOU HAD SOME SORT OF IDEA.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ME, RIGHT? YEAH. OH, GOOD.

THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE GOOD.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE WEATHER.

THESE THINGS ARE EXPOSED TO THE WEATHER.

TWENTY FOUR SEVEN TEXAS OUTSIDE PLASTIC MATERIAL DOES DETERIORATE FAIRLY QUICKLY, AND MOST OF THESE ANTENNAS ARE COVERED IN A PLASTIC TYPE MATERIAL.

I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN REPLACED ONCE, HONESTLY, AND THE CABLE ITSELF. SO IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS WHAT WE DO INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS.

IT'S JUST A ROUTINE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. I BELIEVE THIS DOES ALLOW THEM TO SWITCH OUT ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT ON THE ANTENNA. IT'S JUST THE STRUCTURE ITSELF THAT THEY'RE REALLY ZONING.

COOL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THIS CASE ON NUMBER IS Z2158.

THE APPLICANT REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 5809 LYONS ROAD AND THE ACREAGE IS 0.9962 AND THE SITE IS AGRICULTURE DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP.

THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS LYONS ROAD AND THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED UNTIL THIS SITE IS PRIMARILY SURROUNDED BY AGRICULTURE DISTRICT AND THEN ALSO SINGLE FAMILY.

SO THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST, AND THEN ALSO TO THE EAST.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THE AREA.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.

PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND THIS IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE MEETING THE SORRY.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE MEETING THE S.F.

E DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS SITE IS 30000 SQUARE FEET. AS PER THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, EMAILED OUT 42 NOTIFICATION LETTERS, WE RECEIVED ONE AND INSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR AND THEN ONE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR.

THE TOTAL RESPONSES WERE TWO.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER OTT AND KIMBERLY, THIS REQUEST IS JUST STRICTLY JUST A ZONING

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CHANGE. IS THAT CORRECT? OR DOES THIS ALSO HAVE A DETAILS AND DETAIL PLAN OR ANYTHING WITH IT? THIS IS JUST A ZONING.

OK, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, NEXT TWO ITEMS I'M RECUSING MYSELF ON.

SO VICE CHAIRMAN OTT MEETINGS YOURS.

GOOD EVENING, RENEE, SIR.

I'LL HANDLE THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

OK? MR. VICE CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO ADD RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.

RV'S TO THE PHASE TWO AREA PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR CABINS AT THE APPROVED LAKESHORE RV RESORT SPECIFICALLY IS AN AMENDMENT TO PD 20-13, AS WELL AS A DETAILED PLAN.

THE LOCATION IS 3926 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD.

THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS VIA BAYOU INC.

THE ACREAGE OF THE PHASE TWO AREA SPECIFICALLY IS JUST OVER ONE ACRE.

AND AGAIN, THE ZONING IS 20-13, PDE 20-13.

THAT DETAILED PLAN, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, WAS JUST APPROVED IN 2020, SPECIFICALLY FOR PHASE TWO AND FOUR CABIN USES.

THE ORDINANCE WAS RESTRICTIVE TO CABINS ONLY.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION MAP OF THE SUBJECT AREA IN SOUTH GARLAND.

AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOCUSED ON THE PHASE TWO AREA OF THE RV RESORT.

THE PHASE ONE IS LOCATED OVER HERE TO THE WEST, AS YOU MAY RECALL.

THAT'S THAT CONSIST OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE RV PADS THAT HAS BEEN WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT THIS IS CONCERNING THE PHASE TWO AREA SHOWN HERE, AND THERE ARE SOME SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES FURTHER TO THE EAST.

OF COURSE, THE JOHN PAUL JONES PARK AND THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD TO THE NORTH.

THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE SOUTH AND OF COURSE, INTERSTATE 30 AND SH190 NEARBY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS REGIONAL CENTERS.

THE GREATER HARBOR POINT AREA, ITS REGIONAL CENTERS.

AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA.

SOME OF THESE ARE A BIT OLD, SO I'LL KIND OF JUMP TO MORE RECENTLY.

THIS, OF COURSE, REFLECTS CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE.

PHASE TWO, I BELIEVE, IS SHOWN BACK THERE.

BEYOND THAT DRIVEWAY AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CLUBHOUSE THERE ON THE RIGHT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN ACTUALLY IS THE SAME, REALLY IS THE DETAILED PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020, THE PD 20-13.

AGAIN, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW RVS IN PHASE TWO IN ADDITION TO CABINS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, EACH PAD COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A CABIN OR AN RV ON IT.

AGAIN, THE PD RESTRICTS IT CURRENTLY RESTRICTS IT TO CABINS ONLY.

THE ACCESS IS THROUGH PHASE ONE, WHICH HAS AN EXIT ONLY ACCESS ON THE ZION AND THEN FURTHER ACCESS FROM I-30.

AND LANDSCAPING, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE CABIN ELEVATIONS, THESE ARE TAKEN FROM THE 20-13 PD.

THOSE WOULD NOT CHANGE EITHER.

SO AGAIN, THE APPLICANTS REQUEST IS AN AMENDMENT TO PD 20 DASH 13 ONLY.

NO GDC DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT WITH THIS.

WITH THIS APPLICATION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, TYPICALLY WE'RE PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON AN ANALYSIS OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE GDC OR HARMONY WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN OR PARTICULAR CATALYST AREAS OR THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE CASE OF THIS APPLICATION.

OF COURSE, AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RVS RATHER THAN CABINS ONLY.

SO THE DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENY RESTS PRIMARILY ON A VERY SUBJECTIVE REVIEW OF THE MATTER. THERE'S NOT REALLY A PARTICULAR ANALYSIS THAT STAFF COULD PROVIDE AS FAR AS RVS VERSUS CABINS OR WHAT THAT RIGHT MIX WOULD BE.

THE COUNCIL, THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF PD 18 DASH THIRTY SIX, FOUND THAT AN RV RESORT IS A SUITABLE USE FOR THE OVERALL PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVELY RVS IN PHASE ONE, AND THEN AGAIN IN 2020, THE COUNCIL APPROVED PHASE TWO FOR CABINS ONLY.

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THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THAT THE CABIN USE IS NOT FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME AND THAT ALLOWING ADDITIONAL RVS FOR THE 18 AVAILABLE PADS AND PHASE TWO WOULD MAKE THE OVERALL PROJECT MORE SUCCESSFUL EARLY ON.

HE'S THIS HE'S HERE THIS EVENING TO EXPAND ON THAT.

SO THE MAIN CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICANTS REQUEST LIES IN THE COMPATIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL RVS.

LESS TANGIBLE QUALITATIVE FACTORS OUTWEIGH ANY TECHNICAL OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS STAFF COULD PROVIDE AT THIS TIME.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

HOLD TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE REQUEST, AND YOU MAY RECOMMEND TO APPROVE OR DENY THE REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND AS FAR AS LETTERS GO, WE MAILED OUT 18 LETTERS ON THIS CASE AND WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE AND THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST.

SO WITH THAT, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU BILL.

COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? OK. WELL, I HAVE ONE TO ASK, WHICH WAS WAS IT DISCUSSED PERHAPS HAVING THIS AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TEMPORARY? YOU'D MENTIONED THAT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS FROM READING THIS THAT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS MARKET CONDITIONS.

IT WAS DRIVING PART OF THIS.

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO CRAFT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TEMPORARY? THAT IS POSSIBLE, ACTUALLY.

THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER.

IT WASN'T DISCUSSED IN GREAT DETAIL WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT PERHAPS WITH GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. OBVIOUSLY DIRECTION FOR THE COMMISSION THAT THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE.

YES, SIR. OK. MM HMM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSE.

IS THERE A TIME.

WILL THERE BE A TIME FRAME FOR THE RENTAL, FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BRING THEIR RV IN AND PARK IT THERE? CAN IT BE THERE TWO YEARS, TWO WEEKS, TWO MONTHS.

10 YEARS, WHAT? THERE WAS A TIME FRAME WITH THAT.

YES, SIR, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY IN FRONT OF ME.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP. BUT I RECALL WITH THE EIGHTEEN- THIRTY SIX PD FOR THE PHASE ONE RVS THAT WAS PUT IN THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS A LIMITATION OF STAY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, FOLKS CAN'T JUST LIVE THERE FULL TIME.

THERE WERE CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS REALLY.

BUT CAN THEY JUST MOVE FROM SLOT A TO SLOT B OR C? AND THAT STARTS THE CLOCK OVER, AND I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO BE GONE FOR AN X NUMBER OF DAYS, MINIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS AND THEN BEFORE THEY CAN COME BACK.

OK, SIR, THANK YOU. SURE.

COMMISSINERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK, SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD MAYBE SUGGEST AN SUP FOR ONE YEAR FOR THE USE OF RVS AND THEN AFTER THAT, REVISIT CABINS.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN SUP SPECIFICALLY, SINCE THE PD ALLOWS THE OR CONTEMPLATES THE OVERALL USE. I'LL KIND OF LOOK AT MR. HYNES THERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE MAY BE A WAY TO CRAFT THAT IN THE CONDITIONS, THE PD CONDITIONS. PERHAPS HE'S THINKING ABOUT IT.

OK.

WELL, THE PD RUNS WITH THE LAND, SO THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT.

THERE'S NO SUP WITH THIS ORDINANCE CURRENTLY, SO IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.

YES, SIR.

LETTING HIM DO IT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, YEAH, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO THAT.

OK, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE.

AND SO IF WE SUGGEST THAT AND THE COUNCIL BUYS INTO IT, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S A TWO YEAR SUP, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION OR WHAT? YEP.

OK. RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU, WILL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE IN RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK, OUR REGULAR MEETING.

SEE YOU ALL THEN.

[Call to Order]

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME BACK TO THE JANUARY 10TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE.

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YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER YOU JOIN US OR NOT, AND NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.

NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL.

TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER LOCKE.

AS THE NEW YEAR CONJURES MEMORIES OF THE LAST.

WE LOOK BACK AT OUR LOSSES AND BLESSINGS, OUR ACHIEVEMENTS AND DISAPPOINTMENTS.

MAY WE MOVE FORWARD AND KNOW THAT THE MISTAKES WE MADE ALONG THE WAY ARE LESSONS, NOT FAILURES, THAT WE ARE MEANT TO GET BACK UP AND FIND A PATH THAT EXHIBITS AUTHENTICITY RATHER THAN PERFECTION? MAY THE MEMORY OF THOSE WE LOST GIVE US STRENGTH TO SPREAD LOVE, HOPE AND FORGIVENESS.

MAY WE KNOW THAT BY HELPING AND SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER AND BEING TRUE TO OURSELVES, WE WILL FIND HAPPINESS IN THE YEAR TO COME.

NO MATTER THE OBSTACLES WE MAY FACE.

WELL, AGAIN, WELCOME TO OUR MEETING, AND IF SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY FOUND THE LITTLE BEIGE FIELD AND OTHER BEIGE SPEAKER CARDS, SO IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL ONE OUT AND HAND IT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY AND WHEN WE CALL YOU UP, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, WE DO NEED THAT FOR OUR OFFICIAL RECORDS AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DEFINITELY DO ALLOW MORE TIME.

ALL RIGHT, GETTING INTO OUR AGENDA.

[Consent Agenda]

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

CONSENT AGENDAS ARE ITEMS OR, IN THIS CASE, ONE ITEM THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE TAKING ONE VOTE TO APPROVE.

I WILL READ OFF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION OR IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS ONE REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW.

ALL RIGHTY, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 1A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE DEC. 15 2021 MEETING.

I'M GUESSING NOBODY WANTS THAT PULLED, SO CAROL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONER DALTON MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED AND I BET GOT A SECOND HERE FROM COMMISSIONER LUCHT, LIGHT'S GREEN TOO.

SO AM I CORRECT ON THAT? TRYING.

YOUR SPEAKER, YOUR MICROPHONES LIVE YEAH? ALL RIGHTY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WILL, PLEASE VOTE.

YEAH. LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN.

HERE WE GO. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[Items 2A & 2B]

ALL RIGHT, ON TO OUR ZONING CASES.

ITEM 2A AND 2B ARE PART OF ONE CASE.

I SHALL READ THEM OUT HERE.

ITEM TWO A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION AMRO IS A CROWN CASTLE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION RENEWAL FOR AN ANTENNA COMMERCIAL ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THREE TWO ZERO NINE SOUTH SHILOH ROAD.

ITEM 2B CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION AMRO ISSA CROWN CASTLE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR CONTINUED USE OF AN ANTENNA COMMERCIAL.

THIS PROPERTY ALSO 3209 SOUTH SHILOH ROAD AND I THINK MR. ICE IS HERE. HELLO, EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS AMRO ISSA.

I AM AN URBAN PLANNER WITH CROWN CASTLE AND OUR OFFICE ADDRESS IS 8020.

KATY FREEWAY HOUSTON, TEXAS ZIP CODE IS 77024.

I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH WE OPERATE AND MANAGE THE CELL TOWER, LOCATED AT 3209 SOUTH SHILOH ROAD IN GARLAND, TEXAS.

WE ARE REQUESTING THE EXTENSION OF OUR SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR THE DURATION OF 20 YEARS FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL.

THE TOWER IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL AND SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AND IS IN HARMONY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE TOWER IS ESSENTIAL TO THE LARGER WIRELESS NETWORK AS IT KEEPS THE COMMUNITY CONNECTED AND IS ALSO AN AT&T FIRSTNET SITE, WHICH IS A NETWORK THAT CONNECTS FIRST RESPONDERS.

WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

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GOOD EVENING SIR. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.

AND TO YOU. HOW OFTEN DO YOU ALL MAKE MAINTENANCE REPAIRS ON THIS PARTICULAR TOWER? I SEE THAT THERE'S A PROVISION THAT IF THE FCC MAKES ANY SORT OF IMPROVEMENT, YOU ARE REQUIRED WITHIN 180 DAYS TO DO SOME SORT OF UPGRADE OR MAINTENANCE.

IS THIS PRETTY REGULAR THAT YOU ALL TAKE CARE OF IT? RIGHT. SO THEY USUALLY CUSTOMERS OR THE CARRIERS, THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND UPDATES RAPIDLY ENOUGH THAT ANTENNAS UPGRADE PRIOR TO POSSIBLE MATERIAL DEGRADATION.

SO THEY DO UPDATE THEM REGULARLY.

BUT THEY NEVER LET THEM GO BAD BECAUSE THAT WILL BE KIND OF LIKE BAD FOR THE BUSINESS.

BUT THEY ARE UPDATED AS THEY SEE FIT AND AS NECESSARY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS, MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RENEW THE SUP FOR 20 YEARS AND APPROVE THE PLAN AS PRESENTED FOR Z2144. I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HEAR SECOND? SECONDED AND THE SECOND WAS FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUCHT TO APPROVE AND SECOND FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

[2C. Consideration of the application of Summit Designs, requesting approval a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family Estate (SF-E) District. This property is located at 5809 Lyons Road. (District 3) (File Z 21-58)]

ALL RIGHTY, NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

HE SAYS JUST A SINGLE CASE ITEM, NOT A DUEL, AS WE NORMALLY HAVE, IT'S CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SUMMIT DESIGNS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT FIVE EIGHT ZERO NINE LYONS ROAD.

I DO NOT HAVE A SPEAKER CARD IN THIS AS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ABOUT THIS CASE? I SEE NONE, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHERYL, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PARIS, IS IT OK? GO AHEAD. THE PRESENT IS OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, DID YOU CHIME IN? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD.

YEAH. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS IN OUR AGENDA.

I'M RECUSING MYSELF FROM THOSE ITEMS, SO VICE CHAIRMAN OTT WILL BE TAKING OVER.

OK. OH, WOW.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. OUR NEXT ZONING ITEM IS A TWO PART REQUEST.

[Items 2D & 2E]

WE HAVE FILE NUMBER Z2161.

IT IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 20-13 TO ALLOW CABINS AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND PHASE TWO AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR CABINS AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES ON A PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT 20-13.

THE LOCATION IS 3926 ZION ROAD AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS ON THIS THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK.

AND NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

1233 INTERSTATE 30 GARLAND, TEXAS.

75043.

IS THERE A PLACE TO PLUG THIS IN? IS THERE A CAN OF UNPLUG THIS ONE? I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANYTHING. LET'S FIND OUT.

WELL, I MEAN, I WANT TO. I HAVE A SLIDE SHOW.

OH, SURE. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO.

OH, DOES THIS GO LIKE THAT?

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AND IT WORKS. YES.

YOU GAVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR NAME FOR THE OH, CRAIG TURNER.

YES, I'M THE OWNER.

I'M TECHNICALLY CHALLENGED.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A USB PLUG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BAN KI-MOON BECOMES DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. HERE HE COMES TO THE RESCUE.

HERE COMES TACTICAL PRESENT SHOWING A SLIDESHOW, SIR.

OH, JUST PLUG IN.

IS THERE A HDMI ON THE LAPTOP? OH. EXACTLY.

I THINK THAT'S HDMI B.

IS IT HDMI? I CAN.

WELL. THOSE TYPICALLY HAVE A USB-C ON THEM.

YEAH, AND THIS ONE. OH, I THINK THIS IS TOO BIG.

THAT'S TOO BIG. OK.

AND THEN CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PUNCH A DOCUMENT CAMERA AND WE CAN.

IS THE DOCUMENT CAMERA? IT'LL TAKE A SECOND. THERE WE GO.

WE CAN JUST GET MAGIC.

OH YEAH.

HOW'S YOU DOING? THERE YOU GO.

YOU GOT ONE MORE.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE THAT COMING OUT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS CRAIG TURNER AND I AM THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THIS RV RESORT AND ACTUALLY MANY RV RESORTS.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ACTUALLY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE RV RESORT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.

I KNOW MR. WILLIAMS IS, HE HAS A QUESTION I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO ASK ME.

WE ARE SO CLOSE.

WE ARE CLEANING.

WE ARE FINISHING ALL THE DETAILS WITH IT AND FENCING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, HOPEFULLY TO BE OPEN SOMEWHERE IN THE NEXT FORTY FIVE DAYS OR SOONER.

SO ON THAT.

SO WITH THIS BEING SAID, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU ALL SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THIS IS A RESORT.

THIS IS NOT AN RV PARK.

THIS IS A FINE RESORT THAT THAT THIS HAS.

I MEAN, IT HAS EVERYTHING FROM YOUR NORMAL THINGS THAT YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU GO TO A RESORT, YOUR POOLS, YOUR HOT TUBS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT WE HAVE WATERFALLS, WE HAVE GAME ROOMS, WE HAVE SHUFFLEBOARD POOL TABLES, WE HAVE FIREPLACES THAT ARE IN AND OUT.

WE HAVE A LARGE FIREPIT IN AND OUT.

WE HAVE GAZEBOS, WE HAVE OUTDOOR GRILLING AREAS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE HORSESHOES AND ALL THOSE THINGS AS WELL.

IT IS FULLY GATED, SO TO GET IN, YOU WILL BE VETTED AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE DO THAT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME THERE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PLACE IS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

THERE'S A SECURITY GUARD THERE ALL THE TIME.

WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU WILL BE ESCORTED TO YOUR SITE AND YOU WILL BE SHOWN HOW TO BACK INTO YOUR SITE AND HOOKED UP AND EVERYTHING.

AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN DIRECTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE RESORT, THE LOCAL AREAS, PLACES TO EAT, PLACES TO SHOP AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE ARE THERE TO TREAT YOU LIKE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY AT A RESORT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR ON THAT.

SO AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE PICTURES, I'M HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF PHASE TWO.

ALL RIGHT. PHASE TWO HAS BEEN COMING ALONG.

BUT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT RVS AND CABINS ON PHASE TWO.

WELL, AT THE LAST MOMENT, IT WAS DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD ONLY BE FOUR CABINS.

THAT'S 18 SPOTS AT ANY OF MY LOCATIONS.

I DO NOT HAVE 18 CABINS, I HAVE FIVE OR SIX CABINS, MAYBE AT THAT.

BECAUSE IF YOU GET INTO THAT, THEN YOU'RE GETTING TO A HOTEL BUSINESS AND I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE HOTEL BUSINESS. I WANTED TO GIVE AMENITIES OF HAVING SOME CABINS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE VISITING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WITH THEIR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR RVS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE IDEA OF THAT WAS.

BUT WHEN IT WAS VOTED IN THAT THEY WILL ONLY ALLOW 18, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW, AND MAYBE 18 WILL WORK THERE.

WELL, THEN COVID HIT.

AND IN TURN, THESE CABINS THAT I PAID THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND FOUR ARE NOW CLOSER TO ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN MOVED IN FURNISHED, SET UP AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

PLUS THERE'S OVER A TWO YEAR WAIT FOR THEM.

SO WHEN THIS HAPPENED, I JUST SHARED IT WITH YOU.

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I'M BRUTALLY HONEST, YOU KNOW, COVID HIT AND THAT WAS RIGHT, RIGHT AS WE GOT THIS APPROVED AND THESE CABINS SHOT UP IN PRICE, WELL, I THOUGHT, WHO KNEW THAT WE'D BE HERE TODAY? WHO KNEW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL BE AT THIS SITUATION AND THAT THINGS WOULD BE HARD TO GET? I WAS IN WAL-MART YESTERDAY AND WAS GOING DOWN THE AISLE AND THERE WAS NO, YOU COULDN'T GET ANY SHELLS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT LINGUINI OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. WHO KNEW THE PASTA WOULD BE GONE? PASTA WAS GONE. I WAS LIKE, WOW, SO THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE CASES THAT WE'RE IN.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. AND SO THINGS ARE HARD TO GET.

THIS IS TAKING ME MORE THAN TWICE AS LONG TO BUILD.

THIS HAS COST ME MORE THAN DOUBLE THE BUDGET OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST, BUT THAT WAS OK. I'M STILL GOING TO FINISH IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST RESORT, PROBABLY IN THE UNITED STATES, DEFINITELY IN TEXAS, OK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS PHASE TWO, WE HAVE 18 SPOTS THERE AND THEY CAN BE FILLED.

MY PHONE IS RINGING OFF THE WALL FOR ME TO OPEN.

AND SO I DON'T WANT THIS SPACE TO SIT THERE EMPTY.

I'M NOT AGAINST CABINETS.

I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU I'M NOT, AND I'LL BE WILLING TO PUT SOME CABINS ON THERE. I'D LIKE TO PUT ABOUT FIVE CABINS ON THIS, ON THAT LOCATION, BUT NOT TODAY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE IT AND GET IT GOING AND GET IT GENERATING INCOME SO THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT IT DOES COST AND GO FORWARD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO ALLOW ME TO PUT RVS AND CABINS ON THAT LOCATION.

OK, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S SEE, COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A THREE YEAR SUP TO ALLOW YOU TO PUT RVS ON THERE AND YOU COULD INITIALLY AVOID PUTTING CABINS ON THERE, REVISIT, REVISIT IN THREE YEARS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IF IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN, I WILL.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I WOULD PREFER FIVE.

BECAUSE JUST I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE NEWS TODAY, THERE WAS ANOTHER VARIANT THAT JUST CAME OUT TODAY THAT THEY'RE SAYING, OK, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE, BUT THREE YEARS, IF THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN GET, THEN I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

I WOULD PREFER FIVE.

LIKE I SAID, I'M WILLING TO PUT CABINS ON THERE.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T. I HAVE THEM AT EVERY OTHER LOCATION THAT I HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S JUST NOW.

IT'S NOT THE FEASIBLE TIME TO DO IT.

I UNDERSTAND. COMMISSIONER ROSE.

ARE YOU LOOKING TO PUT A TIME LIMIT FOR HOW LONG AN RV CAN STAY IN ONE OF THESE? THERE IS ONE, SIR. IT'S ALREADY IN THE PD.

WHAT IS IT? IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE THAT HAPPENED, AND I MR. MR. GUERIN, ISN'T IT LIKE 90 DAYS? SO IT'S EITHER 60 OR 90? YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS LIKE 90 DAYS.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER 90 DAYS? THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO LEAVE.

CAN THEY JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER LOCATION? NO, SIR. THEY HAVE TO BE GONE FOR, I BELIEVE, A PERIOD OF TWO WEEKS ON TWO WEEKS THAT CAN COME BACK AGAIN. YES, SIR, THAT'S IN THE PD.

COULD WE COULD WE ALTER THAT TO ALLOW FOR THE RVS TO BE ON THIS SITE? I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY END UP LIVING THERE FOR SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS OR WHATEVER. MAYBE THEY'LL END UP MOVING HERE, YOU KNOW, GONE TWO WEEKS AND COME BACK.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE MONTHLY RATES SIR.

I HAVE DAILY RATES AND NIGHTLY RATES.

I MEAN, AND WEEKLY RATES, I DON'T EVEN HAVE MONTHLY RATES.

OK. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE OF THE APPLICANT? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE HAVE A SEAN DAVIS.

ALL. MY NAME IS SEAN DAVIS, I LIVE AT 3910 ZION ROAD, I'M RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS MORE OR LESS.

I'VE ACTUALLY HAVE A DOOR.

THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO MINE IS EMPTIEST.

AVOID. DO YOU MIND IF I MOVE THIS YOUR LAPTOP JUST FOR A MOMENT? THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, MR. TURNER AND I HAVE HAVE BEEN AT ODDS ON THIS FOR TWENTY SIXTEEN WHEN I MET MR. TURNER. AND THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE CHRISTMAS TORNADO.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY WE BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH, I THINK. BUT HIS RV PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE, I'VE NEVER BEEN A BIG

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FAN OF IT. I THINK IT'S REALLY BAD DESIGN.

AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S NOT GREAT A GREAT CHOICE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE CITY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S OLD SCHOOL.

THAT'S THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

HOWEVER, THE CABINS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALWAYS SEEMED TO ME LIKE TO BE A COMPROMISE.

CABINS LOOK LIKE HOMES, RVS DO NOT.

THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE DESIGN.

IN THIS PICTURE.

THAT IS A HARD, A LOT HARDER TO SEE THAN I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE.

THIS IS THE SAME PICTURE THAT I HAD SENT VIA A DOCUMENT AND AN EMAIL EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, TO BE SURE.

BUT TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF YOU WANT TO GO AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IT'S A LOT EASIER, BUT THERE'S A WROUGHT IRON FENCE THERE.

AND ALTHOUGH THAT WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS ACTUALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE BASED ON THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED, IT DOES AFFORD YOU THE ABILITY TO SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

I CAN SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RV PARK FROM ZION ROAD, AND THAT'S JUST NOT FROM MY HOUSE, WHICH IS A DAILY THING, BY THE WAY, BUT ALSO FROM THE BOAT RAMP HALF A MILE AWAY.

YOU CAN SEE RIGHT INTO THIS PARK NOW THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.

I GUESS IF YOU LIKE RVS OR IF YOU LIKE THE DESIGN OF THIS, IT'S OK.

BUT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE OF US WHO VISIT THE PARK FOR CITIZENS, IT'S IT'S KIND OF AN EYESORE.

THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND FULLY ABOUT INFLATION AND THE ISSUES WITH GETTING MATERIALS TO FINISH PROJECTS. I MEAN, I'M GOING THROUGH THE SAME EXACT SAME THING.

SO IT'S HARD TO GET THINGS FILLED OUT.

IT'S HARD TO GET PRODUCT.

IT'S HARD TO GET ANYTHING. IT'S A MESS RIGHT NOW.

BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S 183 PARKING SPOTS ON PHASE ONE.

AND IF YOU COULD DO THE MATH ON THAT, LET'S SAY THAT MR. TURNER'S PARK IS PACKED TO THE GILLS.

IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE SPOTS.

AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND I MAY BE, AND IF I AM, PLEASE CORRECT ME.

I BELIEVE IT WAS $75 A NIGHT WAS WHAT HE WAS, OR A DAY RATE OF $75 THAT ENDS UP BEING SOMEWHERE AROUND $14000 PLUS A WEEK AND A LOT MORE FOR A MONTH.

WHAT I'M DRIVING AT IS THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE ON THE EXISTING PARK AS OPPOSED TO PHASE TWO.

IF IF NO CABINS CAN BE HAD BECAUSE OF INFLATION, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

I AGREE. IT SEEMS IT SEEMS POINTLESS TO HAVE AN EMPTY SPACE FOR HOWEVER LONG THAT THAT'S THE CASE. HOWEVER, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT CAN'T GET CABINS THIS YEAR.

ALL OF YOU GUYS MOVE ON, OR SOME OF YOU MOVE ON TO DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU'RE NO LONGER IN THIS AND IT'S MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T REALLY CARE. I LOVE RVS.

I DON'T NEED CABINS IN TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.

THERE ARE NO NEED FOR CABINS BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID NO, IT'S FINE. IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN MORE OR LESS.

WE DON'T NEED CABINS.

WE DON'T WANT CABINS.

I LIKE RVS, ETC..

I'M SORRY. I'M WAY OUT OF TIME.

I GOT THAT. IT'S MY MY CONTENTION IS EXACTLY THAT.

IF MR. TURNER CAN'T GET CABINS, THAT'S COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT HE WOULD WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

HE IS A BUSINESSMAN, AFTER ALL.

SO AM I. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE IT THAT THREE YEAR MORATORIUM AS IT WERE ON PUTTING IN CABINS, MAYBE REVISITING IT THREE YEARS OR TWO YEARS, PREFERABLY I WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT I WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND PUSH FOR THAT BECAUSE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IT SUCKS OUT THERE.

THAT SAID, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, HOWEVER, IF THESE, YOU AS COMMISSIONERS WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THAT FRONT HERE ON ZION ROAD, WHERE THERE'S FIVE SPOTS WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS CABINS ONLY EVEN IF IT'S ALL THE REST ARE RVS.

BECAUSE FRANKLY, FROM MY HOUSE AND FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT. THE LANDSCAPING WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE OVER, AND AS LONG AS THIS WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS NOT THE STATUS QUO, BUT IN FACT HAS TO BE REPLACED WITH A BOARD ON BOARD PER.

THE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY WOULD EVEN CARE UNLESS YOU'RE RIGHT LOOKING RIGHT AT THE WALL FACING SOUTH FROM ZION ROAD, YOU JUST WOULDN'T SEE IT.

OF COURSE, THE GEORGE BUSH HEIGHT IS A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY SEE IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE BALD CYPRESS TAKE OFF AND 40 OR 50 FEET IN 11 YEARS.

THAT'S GREAT. ANYWAY, SORRY, I TOOK HIM A LOT OF YOUR TIME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SINCE I LIVE THERE? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? COMMISSINER JENKINS.

EVENING, SIR. HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMPASSIONED SPEECH.

I PRESUME THAT YOU'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

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OH, INDEED, I HAVE. THEY ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

NOT WELL. I'M ALSO AN HONEST MAN, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE FOLKS ACTUALLY MY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO ME.

SHE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE AN OPINION ON IT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIVE THERE.

SHE'S A SWEET LADY.

JOANNE STANLEY AND SHE LIVES IN A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO HOME THERE.

SO SHE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT AS IT WERE.

BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A REAL BIG FAN OF THIS, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE.

NO, I. NO, I GUESS I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE A VARYING DEGREE OF THOUGHTS OR PERSPECTIVES REGARDING THE FUTURE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AS WELL YOUR WILLINGNESS TO I'M GOING TO USE THIS WORD.

IT'S BECOME A DIRTY WORD COMPROMISE REGARDING SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TO TAKE PLACE. SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS.

[INAUDIBLE].

AND COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? MR. MR. TURNER.

YES, I JUST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FENCE AND AND WHY THE FENCE WAS DONE THE WAY IT WAS, IT WAS DONE THE REQUEST OF THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR BECAUSE THE LOTS ARE THREE HUNDRED FOOT LONG. AND IN TURN, IF I BUILT THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZYLON ROAD, IT WOULD CUT OFF HER VIEW.

AND SO THEY ASKED ME, WOULD I NOT? AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND ASK FOR THE CHANGE TO THE PLANS.

BUT THEY ASKED ME TO, NOT BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS WROUGHT IRON GOING DOWN AND WE CHANGED IT IN THE PD TO WOOD, WHICH WAS A BAD THING FOR THEM, AND I FELT SORRY FOR THEM.

AND SO SHE ASKED ME IF I WOULD CHANGE IT BACK TO WROUGHT IRON SO SHE WOULDN'T LOSE HER VIEW. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I DID.

IF I'M REQUIRED TO PUT IT BACK TO WOOD, THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH IT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE Y'ALL ASK ME TO.

AND THAT WILL BE MY REASON TO MY NEIGHBOR SAYING I'M REQUIRED TO, MA'AM.

THEY MAKE ME PUT WOOD AND I'M SORRY IT BLOCKS YOUR VIEW.

THAT'S JUST TRYING TO BE A NICE NEIGHBOR.

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT HAPPENED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

OK. COMMISSIONER ROSE.

YES, SIR. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SHORTEN THE RENTAL TIME FOR THE RVS TO MAYBE 30 OR 45 DAYS AT THE MOST? AND THEN THEY HAVE TO STAY OFF THE PROPERTY FOR 30 DAYS AS OPPOSED TO TWO WEEKS? WELL, SIR. WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, YOU SIR, CANNOT STOP AND BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? MEANING THAT WE HAVE VERY STRICT RULES IN OUR PARK.

I MEAN, WE HAVE FULL TIME SECURITY.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DARK AT 10 O'CLOCK.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING STOPS UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

IF YOU COME TO MY PARK AND THE POLICE OR FIRE ARE CALLED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OUT.

WE DO NOT PUT UP WITH ANYTHING, EVEN FOUL MOUTH.

WE DON'T ALLOW IT, YOU KNOW, SO I POLICE MY PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

AND SO IF I GET SOMEBODY, LET'S SAY YOU COME TO MY PARK, SIR, AND YOU'RE THERE TO HAVE MEDICAL TREATMENT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE EIGHT WEEKS, NINE WEEKS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

ALL RIGHT. THEN IN TURN, IF YOU'RE BEING A GOOD CITIZEN AND YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF, I HATE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO.

BECAUSE IF IF THERE WAS A BAD PERSON THAT COMES IN THERE, THEY'RE ALREADY GONE ALREADY.

WE DON'T ALLOW.

THAT'S WHY I KEEP A REALLY NICE PARK, AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LOVE TO COME TO MY PARKS IS BECAUSE WORD OF MOUTH, BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY NICE AND WE DON'T PUT UP WITH ANY KIND OF BAD BEHAVIOR WHATSOEVER.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU DON'T WANT IT TO TURN INTO A PARK THAT YOU MIGHT SEE OUT IN EAST TEXAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND DON'T WORRY, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT.

I ADVISE YOU, SIR, TO COME OUT AND SEE IT RIGHT NOW AND SEE HOW NICE IT IS AND THEN ALSO SEE HOW WELL RUN THEY ARE.

THEY'RE RUN VERY, VERY WELL.

SO I PREFERRED NOT TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A NICE PERSON LIKE YOU WHO COMES IN WHO'S THERE FOR WHATEVER REASON, MEDICAL, SEEING THE FAMILY THERE THAT PEOPLE COME IN FOR OUR STATE FAIR PEOPLE ARE COMING FOR FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT TAKE, YOU KNOW, A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE.

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AND SO I HATE TO ASK A GOOD PERSON TO LEAVE NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M GOING TO GET NEXT, BECAUSE I THINK IF I HAVE A GOOD PERSON, I'D RATHER KEEP THEM.

BECAUSE IF I DON'T, IF I HAVE A BAD PERSON, I PROMISE YOU THEY WON'T BE THERE MORE THAN A DAY, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE RUN OUR PARKS.

IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, OK, SO IF YOU SELL THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOW CAN WE, THE CITY BE ASSURED THAT THAT PHILOSOPHY WILL CARRY FORWARD TO THE NEXT OWNERS? SIR I DON'T THINK THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW.

I WENT BACK AND SAW MY HOUSE THAT I HAD ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, ALL RIGHT.

AND I WAS SAD TO DRIVE UP TO IT AND SEE IT BECAUSE THE WAY THEY TOOK CARE OF IT AND EVERYTHING MADE ME SAD.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, EITHER IN THIS SITUATION. BUT BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

I'M FIFTY FOUR YEARS OLD.

I DON'T PLAN ON GETTING OUT OF THE BUSINESS ANYTIME SOON.

OK. AND SO I'M IN FOR THE LONG HAUL.

I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING TO ADD MORE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M BUILDING THIS FLAGSHIP FOR, BECAUSE IF I BUILD THIS FLAGSHIP HERE IN GARLAND, TEXAS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE BASS PRO.

THEN IF I GO TO ANOTHER CITY AND SAY, I WANT TO BUILD THIS THERE, I WANT THEM TO SAY ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE THIS IS WOW, YEAH, WE'LL ALLOW THAT HERE.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO SIR.

ANY OTHER? WE DO HAVE MORE.

COMMISSIONER PARRIS.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YOU CAN HEAR ME OK? YES, MA'AM.

ONE OF THEM CABIN PLACEMENT.

I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM THE DESIGN ORIGINALLY, WHERE WERE YOU PLANNING TO PLACE THE CABINS ON THE PADS? IS IT UP FRONT? I WAS THINKING BACK TO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK ABOUT HAVING IT UP FRONT FOR VISUAL EFFECT IN TERMS OF SEEING THAT IS HOME.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO PUT THEM INITIALLY WAS RIGHT UP FRONT.

YES. AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAN, I WILL PUT THEM IN.

THAT'S MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTED TURNAROUND TIME? DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'LL GET TO HAVE THOSE CABINS THERE? I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT INFLATION.

THERE'S INDUSTRY ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING.

BUT WHAT? WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTED YOUR TURNAROUND TIME TO BE? I'M THINKING PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF THREE YEARS I COULD START PUTTING THOSE ON.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU. I RECALL US HAVING JUST FALLS MORE IN THE REALM OF DISCUSSION.

I RECALL US HAVING EXTENDED CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TIME LIMITS THAT WE SET FOR THIS.

YES. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY OR TO THE BUSINESS AND NOT TO MR. TURNER. IT'S YEAH, IT'S PART OF THE PD.

SO SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN HERE, THEY'RE THEY'RE STUCK WITH WHAT WE GAVE THEM, WHAT WE GAVE HIM. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

YES, SIR. SO YES, SIR, THAT'S THE WAY I REMEMBERED THAT.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. THANK YOU, SIR.

WELL, COMMISSIONERS, OH, ACTUALLY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE. WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AS WELL.

WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO HOLD JUST A MOMENT.

HERE YOU GO. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS IS FREE TO IF HE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION AT THIS POINT. OK. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO JUST CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THE FIRST SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE.

SCOTT ROBERTS, WELBORN, I GUESS I VOTED FOR CHANGE, OKAY, AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION.

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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SEVERAL THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY.

NUMBER ONE, I'M AN AVID RVER.

NUMBER TWO, I'VE BEEN TO MANY RESORTS AND THE FIVE STATE AREA TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, NEW MEXICO, ARKANSAS AND LOUISIANA.

THIS IS ONE OF THE NICEST RV PLACES I HAVE EVER SEEN, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST FOR YOU. I'M HAPPY IT'S IN MY OWN BACKYARD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THIS WON'T BE AN EYESORE OF ANY KIND.

HE'S NOT GOING TO ATTRACT RV'S THESE THAT AREN'T REALLY NOT SUITABLE TO SEE OR LIVE IN OR WHATEVER NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO HE HE'S ALREADY MENTIONED THAT HE'S GIVING WEEKLY RATES, BUT NOT MONTHLY RATES.

IF YOU STAY THERE A MONTH.

PAYING A WEEKLY RATE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY THERE TWO OR THREE MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST YOU A FORTUNE, YOU KNOW, SO HE.

AND THAT'S ONE REASON PROBABLY WHY HE DOESN'T GIVE MONTHLY RATES AS FAR AS THE CABINS ARE CONCERNED. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, AND I JUST WANTED TO EDUCATE MY COLLEAGUES.

I THINK EVENTUALLY THE CABINS ARE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IF I TAKE MY RV TO HIS PLACE AND I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WE'RE GETTING TOGETHER FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR SOMETHING, AND THAT HAPPENS IN RV PARKS FROM TIME TO TIME.

AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS WANT TO SPEND THE NIGHT.

THEY SPEND THE NIGHT IN A CABIN BECAUSE I BOUGHT AN RV THAT DOESN'T SLEEP THAT MANY PEOPLE AND I DID THAT ON PURPOSE.

SO I THINK THE CABINS EVENTUALLY WOULD ENHANCE ENHANCE THAT PLACE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EYESORE BY ANY MEANS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY NICE RV RESORT PLACE.

AND I'VE PROBABLY BEEN TO IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, PROBABLY OVER 50 OF THEM.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S A REALLY NICE PLACE.

I'M GLAD IT'S IN MY OWN BACKYARD.

AND IF I KNOW WHEN GRAND OPENING IS, I'LL DEFINITELY BE THERE.

SO AND WITH THAT, IF WE DON'T HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THERE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

I'D LIKE TO GENERALLY AS WELL AS SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF A LIMITED TIME FRAME WHEREIN THE APPLICANT COULD CONSIDER THE USE OF RVS TO STEM THE FLOW OF THE UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

I CAN'T SUPPORT AN IDEA THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LITERALLY RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT, HOWEVER, SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF ANY PARTICULAR MOTION THAT DOESN'T LIMIT THE TIME FRAME.

WHEREIN THE APPLICANT MUST RECONSIDER HIS ORIGINAL REQUEST TO USE CABINS INSTEAD OF THESE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, AND AS WELL, I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER REQUESTS THAT WOULD LIMIT THE LOCATION, THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF WHERE THESE PARTICULAR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES ARE.

IN CONCLUSION, HOWEVER, I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY LIMIT ON THE APPLICANT'S ABILITY TO CONTRACT FREELY. SO IF THE APPLICANT ULTIMATELY DECIDES AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD VISITED AND I'M NOT CERTAIN WITH THE LANGUAGE AND THE PD IS UNDER THE GDC, IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS.

SO IF AN APPLICANT HAD BEEN PRESIDENT FOR PRESENT, EXCUSE ME, FOR ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS AND THEN PROCEEDS TO LEAVE FOR THE TWO WEEK TIME FRAME AS THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY INDICATED AND RETURN, THAT'S THAT'S THAT POLICING, AS THE APPLICANT HAS STATED, IS UP TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PARIS, MY FEEDBACK WAS AROUND THE REQUEST FOR SUP AND THE LOCATION, SO FORTH IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION AND GIVEN THE FEEDBACK AROUND THE POTENTIAL TWO TO THREE YEARS IN TERMS OF TIME FRAMES, BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE TO YOUR POINT AROUND CABINS ALSO ATTRACTING VISITORS INTO THE CITY, RIGHT, AND FOR VISITING.

SO AN SUP AND THEN LOCATION OF WHERE THOSE CABINS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE ON THE SITE ARE TWO KEY THINGS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS WE DECIDE TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD. SO I WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THE

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NEXT STEPS. AND COMMISSIONER ROSE.

THERE'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

WHAT IS YOUR TIME FRAME FOR DEVELOPING THESE OTHER 18 SITES AND MAKING THEM READY TO PUT IN RV'S OR CABINS OR WHATEVER? WHAT KIND OF A TIME FRAME ARE YOU ON? PROBABLY COULD HAVE IT FINISHED.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON PHASE TWO, SIR, BUT PROBABLY COULD HAVE THAT FINISHED IN ABOUT 90 DAYS.

SO IN 90 DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO START RENTING OUT THESE SITES.

I HOPE HOPEFULLY.

SO LET'S JUST SAY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY.

YES, SIR. OK.

AND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE RENTING THESE OUT.

SO IF WE PUT A TIME LIMIT, SUP TIME LIMIT ON, IT OUGHT TO START WHEN HE STARTS RENTING THEM. NOT FROM TODAY.

WELL, MAYBE PERHAPS WHENEVER THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED FOR THE PROPERTY, IT SEEMS. WILL THERE BE A SEAL FOR EACH SITE OR FOR THE ACTUAL ONCE THEY OPEN THIS PROJECT? I BELIEVE YOU GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THE WHOLE 18 PADS THAT WOULD BE FOR YOUR, YOU'RE COMPLETING PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

AS FAR AS FOR RENTING SIMULTANEOUSLY, CORRECT? WELL, NO, NO.

PHASE ONE PHASE ONE, HOPEFULLY TO BE RENTED, OPENED UP SOONER THAN PHASE TWO.

OK. BUT PHASE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. PHASE TWO HAS NO BUILDINGS ON IT, SO I DON'T KNOW FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND IF YOU GET A CO WITHOUT A BUILDING.

RIGHT. SO THE CO IS FOR YOUR IS FOR YOUR COMMON AREA.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS.

THERE'S NO STRUCTURES ON PHASE TWO.

OK, SO WE'RE ALL WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO.

WE'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT ALTERING PHASE ONE.

YOU'RE ALL. NO, SIR. NOW HE'S TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO.

YES, SIR. SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

SO YEAH, I DON'T THINK THE TWO YEAR TIME FRAME OR THREE YEARS, WHATEVER WE MIGHT AGREE ON SHOULD NOT. IT SHOULD START ONLY WHEN THE SITES ARE USABLE BY AN RV.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT.

THAT'S ARBITRARY. THAT'S DIFFICULT.

THAT'S RIGHT, IT IS.

BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE APPLICANT TO START IT FEBRUARY 1ST, FOR INSTANCE, BECAUSE IF HE'S NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE THAT READY FOR 90 TO ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS, HE'S LOST, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS.

BY THE TIME IT GETS THROUGH COUNCIL, IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER SEVERAL WEEKS, AT LEAST MONTH, MAYBE. YEAH. SO THE CLOCK REALLY SHOULDN'T IF WE SUGGEST A TIME FRAME SHOULDN'T START UNTIL THEY'RE USABLE, IN MY OPINION.

YEAH. AND WITH THE NEW VARIANT THAT'S COME OUT, IT COULD BE VERY MUCH LONGER THAN THAT, SIR. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S WHY I SAID FIVE YEARS, SIR, I WOULD PUT CABINS ON THERE TOMORROW IF I COULD GET THEM. I CAN'T GET THEM, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T PROMISE WHEN I'M GOING TO GET THEM.

OK, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST FROM A FEW MINUTES AGO CLARIFYING THE ORDINANCE, THE LENGTH OF STAY.

IT IS 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

CALENDAR DAYS IS THE MAXIMUM OR ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY CALENDAR DAYS WITHIN A ONE YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN THE LENGTH OF TIME, MINIMUM LENGTH OF TIME THAT A PERSON MUST BE CHECKED OUT BEFORE THEY CAN RETURN IS FIVE DAYS.

FIVE DAYS. OK. I KNOW WE PUT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO HONING THAT, AND I THINK THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT AND WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

I THANK YOUR CHAIRMAN CAN STAFF ASSIST US WITH PUTTING UP THE DETAILED PLAN AGAIN, JUST I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION OF SITES.

THANK YOU.

OK.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YES.

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THIS IS JUST AS I GUESS, AS WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION, I NOTICED THAT SIXTY SIX TO 13 ARE SET BACK ENOUGH THAT IT MAY PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE EVENTS THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO OBTAIN CABINS FOR FOR THE PROPERTY.

SO MAYBE IT'S WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LOCATION OF THESE PARTICULAR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.

WE CONSIDER SPECIFICALLY THOSE SLOTS AS AS PROVIDED BY THE DETAILED PLAN ABOUT CERTAIN WE CAN DO THAT, BUT SOMETHING WHERE IF YOU IT WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CABINS INTRODUCED THAT THEY WOULD BE PUT THERE FIRST.

OK, I UNDERSTAND.

WELL, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WE COULD HAVE THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF IT? YES, SIR.

IN OTHER WORDS, A CONDITION THAT WOULD PERHAPS AS EXAMPLE, LIMIT THE RV PADS OR POTENTIAL RV PADS TO PADS SIX THROUGH 18.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING, COMMISSIONER? BELIEVE IT, SIX TO 13 HERE OR ANOTHER 18.

RIGHT, THANK YOU. I DON'T.

AND SO ARE YOU SAYING TO NOT ALLOW TO NOT ALLOW ONE THROUGH FIVE FOR RV USE? YES. PERIOD LIMIT TO LIMIT EFFECTIVELY THE LOCATION OF ANY RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THAT ARE TO BE PLACED ON THE PHASE TWO SITE.

OK, SO SIX THROUGH 18 IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

OK. RIGHT? COMMISSIONER ROSE, ARE YOU READ THE PD AND YOU READ FIVE? THEY HAVE TO BE OFF THE PROPERTY FIVE DAYS AND CAN COME BACK.

THE APPLICANT IS SAYING 10 DAYS, WHICH IS CORRECT.

THE ORDINANCE? YEAH, THE ORDINANCE STATES.

OK. RIGHT NOW, I CAN REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD EITHER.

BUT THE ORDINANCE SAYS IN THE EVENT A PERSON STAYS FOR A PERIOD OF 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS, SUCH PERSON SHALL NOT OCCUPY RENT OR USE ANY PORTION OF THE RECREATIONAL PARK FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE DAYS FOLLOWING THE DATE THE PERSON CHECKED OUT OF THE PARK.

IT IS FIVE DAYS. CAN WE CHANGE THAT AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL? WHY NOT? THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST.

WELL, WE CAN. WE CAN'T WE JUST AFFECT THIS FOR THIS PLAN AND NOT AFFECT THE OTHER ONE FIRST PHASE ONE, WE JUST AFFECT IT FOR PHASE TWO? WE ARE REQUESTED SPECIFICALLY FOR PHASE TWO.

SO WE CAN WE CAN SAY THAT.

WE CAN SAY AS PART OF OUR MOTION IF WE WANT TO, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OFF THE PROPERTY FOR 10 DAYS AS OPPOSED TO FIVE DAYS, WHICH IS WHAT PHASE ONE IS.

SO PHASE TWO, THEY HAVE TO GO FOR FIVE TO 10 DAYS.

IT SEEMS LIKE AN UNNECESSARY COMPLICATION FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE APPLICANT.

I'M JUST SAYING RV BEING A CABIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

I'M THINKING ABOUT THE RVS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THEY GET COMFORTABLE. ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE THERE SIX MONTHS.

ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS SIX MONTHS IS THE MAXIMUM CORRECT THAT THEY CAN BE THERE NO MORE THAN 180 DAYS WITHIN THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE.

SO HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE TO BE OFF FIVE DAYS, FIVE DAYS.

BUT THEY THEY CAN ONLY BE ON THEIR 60 DAYS, AND THE CUMULATIVE FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR IS IS ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS.

IT'S IT WOULD BE A REALLY ODD PERSON.

I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD WANT TO PUT UP WITH THAT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

OH, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN QUEUE.

YES, OK.

AND COMMISSIONER LUCHT, I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO A FIVE YEAR SUP AND THEN ASKING THAT THAT FRONT THAT WATERFRONT AREA BE EXCLUDED FROM ALLOWING RVS ON THOSE PADS UNTIL THE SUP WILL BE REVISITED OR THE APPLICANT COULD PUT CABINS ON THERE BEFORE HE EVEN COMES BACK FOR AN SUP. SO LEAVE THE LEAVING THE VIEW SHED IN THAT AREA EXCLUSIVELY.

EITHER THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EMPTY PAD OR A CABIN ONE OR THE OTHER.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

SORRY, I'M SORRY FOR FOR FOR SIMPLICITY, SAKE, AND BECAUSE MY MIND IS IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS SO I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? THAT'S ONE THREE FIVE, I BELIEVE ONE THREE FIVE.

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WITH FIVE, YOU WOULD REMAIN EMPTY UNLESS A CABIN WAS PUT THERE.

YEAH. OK.

ARE THOSE AT THE WATERFRONT SITE? THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO CLOSEST TO THE ROAD.

I THINK COMMUNITY ART WOULD BE FIVE OR SO.

YOU CALL OUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, OK, YEAH, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? WELL, NO, BECAUSE I'M GOOD.

IT WAS. IT WORKS FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

OK. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WE'RE SURE ONE THROUGH FIVE IS FACING ZION ROAD, RIGHT? YES, AND ZION ROAD IS WHAT PARALLELS THE LAKE.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. ALL RIGHTY.

YEP, YEP.

IS IT OK IF I SAY SOMETHING, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING SCREENING? COME ON UP. EXCUSE ME.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THE FENCE, THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY UP TO SCREEN THAT.

THAT RIGHT THERE IS YOUR PRIME LOCATION.

THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD WANT TO HAVE THEIR VIEW OF THE LAKE ON THERE.

SO NOT ALLOWING ME TO USE THAT WOULD IS SEVERELY, YOU KNOW, TAKEN, YOU KNOW, SPOTS AND INCOME THAT THAT COULD BE USED TO BE GETTING NEW CABINS ON.

THAT IS ALL I'M ASKING.

AND IF MR., SEAN, YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PUT THE FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO.

OH, SURE, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT'S A QUESTION HE MR., SEAN, WOULD YOU BE COMPLIANT IF I PUT THE FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ALLOW THE ARTIST I HATE SCREAMING.

NO, NO, YOU NOT TO.

WELL, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND SO WE'RE JUST. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUTTING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG ZION ROAD? I WOULD PUT THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT BLOCKS SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE WOULD BLOCK THE RVS.

SO YOU WOULD NOT SAY WHAT YOU DO AND SEE THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FENCE THAT GOES, I GUESS IT'S EAST AND WEST.

I'M NOT SURE. YEAH, IT WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE AND MAYBE THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT NOT ON ZION ROAD, WHICH LOOKS OUT TOWARDS THE LAKE.

RIGHT? PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO STILL SEE YOU'RE ON THREE SIDES, BUT NOT THE ZION ROADSIDE. BASICALLY, YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE ON MY SIDE ON THAT THAT DIVIDES PHASE ONE AND TWO. MM HMM. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET TO THE INLET INTO, THEN IT'S OPEN FROM THERE.

SO WHEN YOU DRIVE IN, IT IS OPEN.

AND AND SO THAT'S JUST OPEN SPACE, BUT ALL THE WAY DOWN ON THE EAST SIDE.

AGAIN, I COULD PUT THE FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZION ROAD AND THEN THAT WOULD BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE RVS UNTIL YOU GET PAST IT OR TO IT.

BUT THE ZION ROAD, YOU WOULD PUT A WROUGHT IRON FENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WAY PEOPLE COULD SEE THE INTO.

YES, EXACTLY.

THEY CAN SEE THE LAKE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. WAS A LITTLE UNORTHODOX THAT WE'VE WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ALREADY, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO LIVES ON THIS STREET THAT THAT PERHAPS WE OUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING ALL OF OUR DISCUSSION, PERHAPS WE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF HIS WORDS.

MR. DAVIS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? I'M GLAD YOU GUYS LOOK.

THANKS FOR THAT OFFER. EIGHT FOOT BOARD AND BOARD FENCE CEDAR IS ACTUALLY IT WAS A COMPROMISE IF YOU DON'T MIND ME GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BACKTRACKING.

I WANTED A WALL, A STONE WALL OR A BRICK WALL.

THAT'S A STANDARD FOR A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES IN NORTH TEXAS.

AND I BELIEVE AS YOU MR. DALTON. THAT SAID, IF YOU PUT IN A WALL THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AN OBVIOUS BREAK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BORDER BOARD FENCE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SERVED THAN HAVING A BRICK WALL OR A STONE WALL, NO MATTER HOW GOOD IT LOOKED.

HERE'S THE RUB THOUGH, AN EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE CURRENTLY AT THAT LOCATION WOULD NOT BLOCK THE RVS.

AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE RVS ARE BETWEEN 12 BETWEEN 11 AND 13 FEET TALL, DEPENDING ON A CLASS

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A RV, WHICH I ASSUME WOULD FIT IN THESE SPACES.

BUT BECAUSE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND HAS CHANGED.

ORIGINALLY ON THE BLUEPRINTS, NOT THESE, BUT ANOTHER SET THAT I'VE LISTED ON THE DOCUMENT THAT I SENT YOU. THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SIX FOOT PICKET WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON ZION ROAD CURRENTLY.

INSTEAD, THERE'S A FOUR FOOT PICKET THAT'S BEEN SET INTO TWO STACKS OF LOOTERS BLOCKS.

BIG, HEAVY LOOTERS BLOCKS ATTRACTIVE CHOICE BUT DIFFERENT.

SO DIFFERENT, IN FACT, THAT THEY'RE NOW BECOME.

IT'S NOW BECOME A RETAINING WALL.

THE ORIGINAL INTENT, I THINK, OF THE DESIGN WAS TO HAVE THE CABINS AT MORE OR LESS STREET LEVEL, BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE FEET ABOVE THE STREET LEVEL BECAUSE OF THESE LOOTERS BLOCKS THESE LIMESTONE BLOCKS THAT ARE IN PLACE CURRENTLY.

SO IF YOU WERE TO PARK AN RV.

IN OTHER WORDS, OR CABINS FOR THAT MATTER, IN SPACE, AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE CURRENTLY WOULD BLOCK APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF TO FIVE FEET OF THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF ANY RV OR CABIN THAT'S IN PLACE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF TOPOGRAPHY AND FROM THE PLANS.

THIS IS SOMETHING I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE ME INFORMATION ON, BUT I DIDN'T GET A SATISFACTORY RESPONSE AT THE TIME, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S WORKED OUT THIS WAY. REGARDLESS, THOUGH, EVEN IF THERE IS 8 FOOT TALL FENCE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOCK RVS THERE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PREMISE OF HAVING PRIME SPOTS NEXT TO THE LAKE SO YOU CAN SEE OUT AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ACTION IS ON THAT, THOUGH I KNOW WHAT THE COMPROMISE WOULD BE.

I'M ALL ABOUT COMPROMISE, ACTUALLY.

IF IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY OR IF IT'S BAD FOR EVERYBODY SOMETIMES.

BUT IN THIS CASE, IT WOULDN'T BLOCK ANY OF ESPECIALLY THE CLASS RV, WHICH ARE MONSTERS.

THEY'RE ENORMOUS.

AND THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN WITH CABINS AS WELL.

FAR TOO LARGE, THE CHANGE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE REST OF PHASE TWO WAS ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA, LOWERING THE LEVEL OF THE SOIL THERE DRAMATICALLY.

SIX FEET IN SOME CASES, IT'S A LOT BETTER.

SO WHEN CABINS, IF CABINS EVER DO GO IN THAT SPOT, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO SEE THE ROOFLINE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IN THE FRONT FIVE SPOTS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT ALL.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT THAT'S GOING TO BE BLOCKED UNLESS THAT TOPOGRAPHY CHANGE OCCURS.

THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A REDUCTION IN THE SOIL LEVEL, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE DESIGN WOULD. I'M NOT SURE IF THE DESIGN WOULD EVEN SUPPORT THAT AT THIS POINT, SINCE CONCRETE HAS ALREADY BEEN POURED FOR THE MAIN TURNAROUND AREA IN FRONT OF THOSE RVS.

THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE.

COMMISSIONERS, CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. GUERIN. IF IF THE APPROVED PLAN IS IN EFFECT IN NON-CONFORMITY BECAUSE OF THE FENCE THAT'S THERE, WHAT'S THE CITY'S REMEDY? SO MY UNDERSTANDING, SO AS A REMINDER, YES, THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE THE EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD ALL THE WAY THE ENTIRETY OF THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

SO AS IT'S BUILT TODAY, IT'S NOT IN CONFORMANCE, BUT ALSO THAT IS NOT THEN PERMITTED BY THE CITY. MY UNDERSTANDING AND SPEAKING WITH BUILDING INSPECTION IS THEY'RE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. IT'S IT'S GOT A HOLD ON THE PERMIT REVIEW SO SO THAT THEY'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT OR THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.

SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS STILL THE REQUIREMENT EXPECTATION THAT THE EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD WITH STONE COLUMNS EVERY 50 FEET ON CENTER SHOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT UNLESS THE COUNCIL APPROVES OTHERWISE.

OK. LOOK AND SEE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN SUP.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND NOT THE AMENDMENT THAT THE APPLICANT WAS SEEKING. AN SUP CONDITIONED THAT THE APPLICANT MAY NOT HAVE OR MAY NOT UTILIZE MORE THAN 12 RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND ADHERES TO THE STRINGENT TIME REQUIREMENTS AS AS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE PLAN.

AND THE SECOND PART OF THIS MOTION IS AN APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN PERMITTING USE OF CABINS AND RVS CONDITIONED ON A RESTRICTION OF THE USE AND OR PLACEMENT OF OUR OF OUR RVS ON LOTS ONE THROUGH FIVE FOR A TIME.

I'M SORRY THE TIME PERIOD, OF COURSE, BEING TWO YEARS.

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SURE. SECOND, IT SHOULD BE SUP.

THAT'S TWO IS THE INITIAL YES, TWO OR FIVE, TWO YEARS.

TWO IS THE INITIAL AND WE CAN MODIFY OR AMEND.

THERE ARE LOTS OF PARTS TO THE MOTION.

SO ON THIS MOTION, YOU SAID ONE THROUGH FIVE.

NO, EITHER JUST A PAD OR A CABIN.

AND THEN 12 RVS THAT WOULD LEAVE ONE SPOT CORRECT.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE 13 RVS, 18 AND 26 IS 12.

OK, THAT'S 13.

SURE. THEN 13.

I AGREE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO OK USE OF 13 13 RV SLOTS, SAME TIME FRAME AS PHASE ONE AS FAR AS THE MODEL FOR THAT AND A TWO YEAR AND A TWO YEAR SUP THE THE TIME OF THE SUP ITSELF. OK.

LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I REITERATE THE MOTION.

A MOTION TO IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR A FOR APPROVAL, BUT TO ALLOW RVS AND AND ALSO THE CABINS.

BUT TO MAKE IT WHERE THE THIS IS CONDITIONED ON A TWO YEAR TIME FRAME WITH.

BUT AND THE OPERATIONS OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SAME AS PHASE ONE.

THERE'S 13 RV SPOTS AND SECTIONS AND LOTS ONE THROUGH FIVE ARE CABINS OR BLANK.

CORRECT? OK.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROSE.

STILL CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN THIS SUV STARTS? IT'S NOT FAIR.

LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS FEBRUARY 1ST OR WHENEVER THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. IS THAT WHEN IT STARTS OR DOES IT START WHEN IT'S OCCUPIABLE? I DON'T THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE APPLICANT TO START THAT SUP, IMMEDIATELY. IT SHOULDN'T START UNTIL IT'S AVAILABLE TO BE USED, IN MY OPINION.

COMMISSIONER LUCHT.

I THINK WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THOSE FIVE SPACES, ALLOWING FOR A LONGER SUP MIGHT BE HAVE A BETTER, I WOULD SAY FIVE YEARS ONLY BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO PUT CABINS ON THERE WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SEEING THINGS.

HE'S ALREADY GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE A FENCE ISSUE, AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST ALLOW HIM MORE TIME TO SOURCE OUT BETTER CABINS.

HE DID SAY THAT IT WAS TWO YEARS TO EVEN GET CABINS, SO I THINK TWO YEARS MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO SHORT OF A TIME PERIOD.

AND COMMISSIONER DALTON.

A FRIENDLY MOTION, HOPEFULLY A FOUR YEAR SUP BEGINNING JANUARY THE 1ST 2023.

OK. WOULD THE WOULD THE MAKER OF THE MOTION CONCUR WITH THAT? A FOUR YEAR WAR BEGINNING JANUARY, THE FIRST TWENTY TWENTY THREE.

YES, I AGREE TO. ALMOST FIVE YEARS.

YES, I KNOW WHEN IT GETS APPROVED, I APPROVE THE I APPROVE THE AMENDMENT AS MADE.

SECOND, OK.

WE DON'T HAVE. OH, YEAH, AND YEAH, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STATED CONDITIONS THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A FOUR YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR YEAR SUP.

THAT'S THAT CLOCK STARTS TICKING ON IT.

JANUARY 1ST, 2023.

WE'RE WE'RE ALLOWING RVS AND CABINS ON THE SITE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

IT HAS THE SAME OPERATING PARAMETERS AS PHASE ONE AND PAD SITES.

ONE THROUGH FIVE EITHER HAVE TO HAVE A CABIN OR BE BLANK.

THAT IS THE THAT IS THE MOTION.

WITH THAT, LET'S VOTE.

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I DON'T KNOW. OH, THERE WE GO.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

YOU LOOK SURPRISED. OH, WELL, THANK YOU.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN. OK.

JUST PASSING THROUGH.

MAY I HAVE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, PLEASE.

OH YES.

LET'S SEE HERE.

COMMISSIONER LUCHT WOULD LIKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

IT'S IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD.

AND TONIGHT I WITH A HEAVY HEART RESIGN MY POSITION.

IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR TO SERVE AMONG THESE FINE VOLUNTEERS WHO GIVE THEIR TIME TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR FUTURE AND OUR CITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CHAIRMAN ROBERTS, ROBERTS AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THANK YOU TO WILL GUERIN AND TRACEY ALLMENDINGER AND STAFF FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE GARLAND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE BOARD AND RICH AUBIN FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK MY HUSBAND AND MY FATHER FOR BELIEVING ME, AND I HOPE TO ONE DAY SEE YOU ALL AGAIN IN THESE CHAMBERS SO I CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS FINE CITY AND HELP MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE.

WELL, WELL, I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US.

YOU'LL BE. YOU'LL BE SORELY MISSED.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING WITH US AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR ENDEAVORS.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

WELL, SEEING IS THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

I WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

AND UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING ON JANUARY THE 24TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.