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WELCOME TO THE MARCH 14, 2022 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON OUR AGENDA HERE THIS EVENING.

[1. Public Comments on Work Session Items]

ITEM ONE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. PERSONS WHO DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA ARE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SPEAKERS ARE TAKEN ONLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING OTHER THAN INVITED TESTIMONY.

SPEAKERS ARE GROUPED BY WORK SESSION ITEM AND WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE WORK SESSION AGENDA.

SPEAKERS MUST SUBMIT US.

HOPEFULLY THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE HAVE ALL FILLED OUT A SPEAKERS CARD.

SPEAKERS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED AFTER THE MEETING IS BROUGHT TO ORDER.

SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO ADDRESSING ITEMS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA.

ANY ITEM RELATING TO THE REGULAR SESSION AGENDA SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE REGULAR SESSION, WHICH WOULD BE TOMORROW NIGHT, AND ANY ITEM NOT ON AN AGENDA MAY BE ADDRESSED DURING THE OPEN MIC AT THE END OF THE REGULAR SESSION AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE LAST CALL, AS HAS EVERYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK FILLED OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD.

YOU KNOW, RENEE, IF WE CAN.

RENEE IS COMING YOUR WAY.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

ACTUALLY, I'LL WAIT TILL RENEE GETS BACK TO HER DESK BECAUSE SHE'S RUNNING THE TIMER.

AND JUST A QUICK PROGRAMING NOTE.

CITY MANAGER BRADFORD IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING, SO WE HAVE, GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU DON'T KNOW HIS NAME.

HE JUST DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK VERY OFTEN.

YEAH. YES.

OH, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE FOR MR. BRADFORD JOINING.

OH, YES. SORRY.

WHAT DO I PUSH THAT BUTTON? THERE YOU GO. I'LL START OVER NOW.

COUNCIL, GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT AND IN PLACE OF MR. BRADFORD. SO LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP FOR THAT.

YEAH. SO, I'M JUDD REX, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WHEREVER THE CAMERA IS.

RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE.

AND THIS IS LAST ONE.

VERY GOOD. AND COUNCIL LADY MORRIS IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, TURN YOUR MIC OFF.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR SPEAKERS.

WHAT I'LL ASK IS THAT YOU CAN COME FORWARD HERE TO TO THE DESK.

AND IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

AND I BELIEVE RENEE WILL BE OPERATING THE TIMER.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST SPEAKER IS CHERI SWEENEY.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST I THINK ALL THOSE MIKES ARE HOT.

SO IF YOU CAN JUST PULL ONE CLOSE TO YOU.

HI. CHERI SWEENY I LIVE AT 313 WILLOW CREST IN GARLAND.

I VOLUNTEERED WITH GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES FROM 2011 TO 2017.

GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES COMMONLY KNOWN AS GPAWS.

DURING THAT TIME, THE SHELTER DIRECTOR AT THE TIME ASKED US TO CREATE A TNR PROGRAM THAT COULD OPERATE SEPARATELY FROM THE SHELTER.

WE CREATED A TNR PROGRAM FIRST WITH USE OF DR.

DUNN AND THEN WITH THE HELP OF TCAP, USING COLONY MANAGERS AND COLONY MANAGER ID CARDS.

WE BEGAN WITH ONE COLONY MANAGER, CONNIE SWEENEY, AND SHE WOULD HELP ME TRACK CATS AROUND THE CITY FACILITIES OVER OFF COMMERCE STREET.

SINCE THERE WERE SO MANY CATS OVER THERE.

WE CONTINUED TO RECRUIT OTHER COLONY MANAGERS, BUT SOON DISCOVERED MOST DID NOT HAVE A SECURE, CLIMATE CONTROLLED AREA TO HOUSE THE CATS AS THEY RECOVERED FROM SURGERY.

TO ADDRESS THAT, WE BEGAN ALLOWING THE CATS TO BE HOUSED OVERNIGHT AT THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE PACK.

DURING THIS TIME, I SERVED AS THE VP OF GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES AND WORKED FULL TIME.

AS THE TNR PROGRAM CONTINUED TO GROW AND PROSPER I FOUND I COULD NOT DEVOTE AS MUCH TIME AND ENERGY TO IT AS IT NEEDED.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAD A NEW VOLUNTEER, BRENDA JACKSON, WHO WAS INTERESTED IN TAKING OVER THE TNR PROGRAM AND SHE DID IN 2016.

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WITH MODIFICATIONS, BRENDA HAS GROWN THE PROGRAM INTO A HUGE SUCCESS.

THE TNR PROGRAM AND THE PAC GIVES THE PROGRAM A SYNERGY THAT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED OTHERWISE. THAT SYNERGY PROVIDES A PLACE FOR THE COLONY MANAGERS, THE [INAUDIBLE] CAT PROGRAM MANAGER AND OTHER CAT RESCUES A CENTRAL SPOT TO WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE AS MANY LIVES AS POSSIBLE.

I'VE PULLED CATS FROM POLLEN COLONIES AND OTHER RESCUE GROUPS TO GO INTO BARNS.

RESCUES HAVE PULLED FRIENDLY CATS AND KITTENS FROM THE TNR PROGRAM TO SOCIALIZE AND ADOPT OUT WITHOUT THE PACK OR SOMETHING.

A SIMILAR LOCATION FOR TNR.

I FEEL THAT SYNERGY WILL BE LOST.

ALL OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THESE PROGRAMS SUCCESSFUL ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS SPENDING THEIR OWN TIME AND MONEY TO SAVE LIVES.

THE PACT PROVIDES A SPACE WHICH ALLOWS US TO BUILD HIGHLY DESIRED AND SLATED CAT SHELTERS AND BUY FOOD AND LITTER IN BULK.

WE PASS THE SAVINGS ON TO THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE RESCUE GROUPS, MEANING THEY CAN SAVE MORE LIVES BY PULLING CATS WITH MEDICAL NEEDS FROM THE GARLAND SHELTER.

A WIN FOR THE CATS AND THE CITY.

NOT ALL CATS CAN BE HAPPY ADOPTABLE CATS, BUT ALL CATS DESERVE TO LIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE LIFE. WITH THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP THESE PROGRAMS CAN CONTINUE TO HELP ANIMALS OR CATS LIVE THAT BEST LIFE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TIME TO SPEAK TONIGHT, AND I HOPE I'VE CONVINCED YOU THAT YOU MUST CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A SPACE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THESE CATS, THESE PEOPLE AND THIS CITY. THANK YOU.

AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE MICROPHONES UP HERE.

THERE IS ONE IF YOU JUST WANT TO STAND AND SPEAK OR YOU CAN SIT DOWN.

I'M GOOD EITHER WAY.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MARILYN BOWLING.

YOU'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT CATS TONIGHT THAN YOU EVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD.

IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. MARILYN BOWLING, 2018 FRANCIS DRIVE IN GARLAND.

SAID, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH CAT RESCUE FOR 25 YEARS.

DURING THAT TIME, WE HAVE PERSONALLY PAID TO HAVE MORE THAN 100 CATS SPAYED, NEUTERED VACCINATED. SOME OF THEM HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY WITH US.

SOME OF THEM HAVE SAID THANK YOU AND GONE THEIR WAY.

BUT EACH ONE OF THEM WE KNEW WAS LIVING A BETTER LIFE BECAUSE OF THE CARE THAT THEY GOT.

TWO YEARS AGO, I BECAME ACQUAINTED WITH THE GARLAND TRAP NEUTER RELEASE PROGRAM.

SUBSEQUENTLY, WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

WE HAD TWO CATS THAT WERE DONE TWO YEARS AGO AND THEN THIS PAST MAY WE TRAPPED FOUR.

SOME OF MOST OF THOSE HAVE DECIDED TO STAY WITH US AND ARE ENJOYING OUR HOSPITALITY AT THE MOMENT. DURING THE 25 YEARS THAT WE DID SPAY NEUTER APART FROM GARLAND, WE PAID FOR THAT OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

BUT WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GIVE THESE CATS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A GOOD LIFE AS TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS.

AND WE DO VOTE.

WE HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL STRONGLY CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROGRAM.

THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM.

NOT ALL CHANGE IS GOOD.

NOT ALL CHANGE IS BAD.

WHEN YOU TURNED ON YOUR COMPUTERS AND GOT THAT LITTLE UPDATE, NOTICE, SOME OF YOU WEREN'T REAL PLEASED ABOUT THAT.

SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED ARE PROBABLY GOOD ONES, BUT ANYTHING THAT KEEPS THE CATS FROM BEING PROPERLY LOOKED OUT FOR AFTER THEIR SURGERIES OR THE DECREASES THE VACCINATIONS.

THE FCRP IS A VACCINATION THAT IS CONSIDERED CRITICAL FOR EVERY CAT, EVERY VET THAT YOU HAVE EVER GONE TO OR KNOW ABOUT ENCOURAGES THAT.

WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING AND IT HAS OBVIOUSLY VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO COME OUT ON A HAIL, STORMY NIGHT.

AND I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I COMPLETELY HAMMER YOUR NAME OR YOUR HANDWRITING.

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JANIE BEAUREGARD, YOU DID VERY GOOD.

WELL, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I CAN MAKE IT OUT AND HOPE FOR THE BEST.

JANIE BEAUREGARD, I LIVE AT 618 RIDGE.

DALE DRIVE HERE IN GARLAND.

NOW, I JOINED THE TNR PROGRAM WAY BACK IN FEBRUARY 2015.

THE CENTRAL LOCATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AT THE PARK HAS BEEN A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE PROGRAM AND HAS MOTIVATED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO JOIN THE PROGRAM THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO OVERNIGHT THE CATS, BEFORE OR AFTER SURGERY.

AND IT'S ALSO ALLOWED FOR TRAINING CLASSES, SOCIAL EVENTS THAT PROMOTE TNR AND EDUCATION STORAGE OR THE TRAPS THEY GET LOANED OUT TO CITIZENS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TRAP FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS FOR COLONY MANAGERS THAT ARE IN NEED.

AND IT ALSO, AS WE'RE ALL AWARE, PROVIDES THE HOUSING FOR THE CATS BEFORE AND AFTER SURGERY. A LOT OF US PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS WORKING TO TRAP, TRANSPORT AND RETURN THE FERAL CATS. SO HAVING THAT ADDED INCENTIVE OF KNOWING THAT THERE'S RECUPERATION SPACE AS WELL AS HAVING THE COST COVERED BY THE CITY, IS VERY MOTIVATING FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

$5 ADDS UP REALLY FAST WHEN YOU'VE GOT A COLONY OF 10 TO 20 CATS WITH NONE OF THEM BEING FIXED YET. AND WHERE DO WE HOLD TEN CATS AT ONCE? WE NEED A PLACE TO DO THAT SAFELY.

AND THOSE TWO THINGS ALONE, NOT HAVING THOSE TWO ITEMS, MONEY AND SPACE, PREVENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM FIXING THEIR CATS AND THEY'RE JUST CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM BY ALLOWING THEM TO REPRODUCE.

SO. WE DID START A NEW VERSION OF TNR AT THE SHELTER, THOUGH I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE NEW WHILE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A NEW MEDICAL SUITE PUT IN AT THE SHELTER, THEY DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER PLACING US AND THE TNR PROGRAM IN ITS CURRENT CAPACITY FOR STORAGE AND EVENTS, ETC.

INTO THE PROGRAM.

BUT EVEN WITH THEIR NEW MEDICAL SUITE, THEY WERE STILL NOT REALLY PREPARED FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO OCCUR DUE TO A TNR FIXING ON MONDAY, MARCH 7TH, WHEN WE TOOK IN 21 CATS TO THE GARLAND SHELTER, ONLY EIGHT WERE ABLE TO BE FIXED.

ONE DIED ON THE TABLE AND THE OTHERS HAD TO BE HELD OVER UNTIL THE NEXT DAY TO BE FIXED.

NOW, THE STANDARD HIGH VOLUME DAY AT A SPAY NEUTER CLINIC IS BETWEEN 50 AND 70 CATS IN ONE DAY. I'VE PERSONALLY ASSISTED WITH SPAY NEUTER CLINICS WHERE 47 CATS WERE STERILIZED BY ONE VETERINARIAN.

SO BOTH THE INABILITY TO COMPLETE 21 SURGERIES IN ONE DAY AND THE DEATH OF ONE CAT ON THE FIRST DAY DOES NOT INSTILL A LOT OF FAITH NOR CONFIDENCE THAT THIS SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE A CONSISTENT, HIGH VOLUME SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

ADDITIONALLY, TWO WEEK WAITS IN BETWEEN SPAY DAYS IS MIND BOGGLING AND ALSO DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE THE CATS CERTAINLY AREN'T GOING TO WAIT TO REPRODUCE.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS DIANA CHAVEZ GIFFORD.

HELLO. MY NAME IS DIANA CHAVEZ GIFFORD AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT AT 613 EDGEFIELD DRIVE IN GARLAND FOR 21 YEARS.

WE'RE ALL REGISTERED VOTERS.

THERE'S MYSELF AND THREE CHILDREN.

THEY'RE ALL ADULTS NOW.

MY SON ALSO OWNS A HOUSE DOWN THE STREET FROM US.

WE, OUR HOUSES.

MY HOUSE IS PAID OFF.

AND MY SON ALSO IS PAYING ON HIS HOUSE.

WE COULD LIVE ANYWHERE WE WANT, BUT WE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN GARLAND.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS OVER THE 21 YEARS THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN THAT.

AND LATELY WE'VE BEEN SORT OF QUESTIONING THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE CHOOSE TO SPEND OUR MONEY IN GARLAND.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WHEN THE CITY STARTED, ALL THE REVITALIZATION PROJECTS THAT WE MADE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ALWAYS EAT IN GARLAND.

SO GUESS WHAT? OUR TAXES GO BACK TO THE CITY AND TO REVITALIZE OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I'M A COLONY MANAGER IN DISTRICT TWO.

ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, A NEIGHBOR ABANDONED 14 CATS.

SHE LEFT HER HOME, WHICH STUCK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

I CALLED THE SHELTER AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO HELP ME, THAT THEY WERE FULL. AND THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE NUMEROUS CALLS THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBOR.

SO I WAS FEEDING THEM BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO JUST DIE OR GET RUN OVER BY CARS.

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AND THEN FINALLY, AT ONE OF OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE WERE HAVING, LED BY DEBORAH MORRIS, ANOTHER NEIGHBOR MENTIONED THE PAWSIBILITIES TNR PROGRAM.

SO AND ACTUALLY BEFORE THAT, I SHOULD BACK UP AND SAY THAT I CHECKED IN TO HAVING THEM STERILIZED WITH MY OWN MONEY AND MY VET CHARGE IS 250 BUCKS A CAT.

SO THAT JUST WAS A NONSTARTER FOR ME.

AFFORD IT OR NOT, THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH MONEY SPENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM THAT THEY LEFT ME WITH. SO BRENDA WAS ABLE TO COME OVER, TRAIN ME, HELP ME.

WE TRAPPED 14 CATS, EIGHT CATS FIRST, AND THANK THE LORD THAT SHE HAD A PLACE FOR THEM.

BECAUSE I HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE.

I HAVE A DOG. I'M A DOG PERSON ACTUALLY.

I'M NOT EVEN A CAT PERSON.

AND SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING TO PUT THE FIRST EIGHT THAT I TRAPPED.

I WISH I COULD HAVE TRAPPED 14, BUT THERE JUST WASN'T THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ALL OF THE CATS IN AT ONCE TO GET SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

AND SO WE TRAPPED EIGHT AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO GO.

AND THEN SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY COULD BE HOUSED AT THE PAWSIBILITIES LOCATION.

SO WHEN IT'S A THREE DAY PROCESS, THIS IS A BIG ISSUE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO STAY.

SO NOW, THANKFULLY, ALL THE CATS ARE STERILIZED.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY NEW KITTENS, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY NEW CATS EVEN SHOW UP.

THE NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY STORY.

I'M NOT REALLY THAT INVOLVED WITH PAWSIBILITIES, BUT THEY'RE THEY HELP ME A LOT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS STACY SWALLOW.

STACY, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. FOR THE PRONUNCIATION GUIDE.

I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS, AND I'VE PROBABLY NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR LAST NAME. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT SAVES US BOTH FROM IT.

EXACTLY. SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

STACY SWALLOW AND MY RESIDENCE 1537 CROSS COURT DRIVE IN GARLAND 75040.

I CANNOT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW TERRIFIC THE TNR PROGRAM IN GARLAND HAS BEEN FOR ME PERSONALLY. WHEN THE PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN 2014, CHERIE SWEENEY AND MYSELF AND MURIEL, THE PREVIOUS MANAGER, WERE ALL PART OF THE VERY FIRST TNR EVENT.

WE MADE THE PAPER IN GARLAND, SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

SINCE THAT DAY, A LONG TIME AGO.

THE PROGRAM HAS ONLY GOTTEN MUCH, MUCH BETTER.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, THE MORE YOU LEARN, THE MORE YOU CHANGE, THE MORE YOU ADJUST, THE MORE YOU IMPROVE.

AND THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH TNR IN GARLAND.

ONE OF THE MAJOR WAYS TNR IN GARLAND HAD GREATLY IMPROVED WAS THE ABILITY OF DROPPING OFF CATS THE EVENING BEFORE.

AS MOST EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED.

WITHOUT THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DROP OFF THE EVENING BEFORE SOMEBODY LIKE ME AND I THINK MANY COLONY MANAGERS MAY NOT EVER BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

WE MOSTLY HAVE FULL TIME JOBS AND THERE'S JUST NOT REALLY A WAY FOR AS OFTEN AS I TRAP THAT I COULD BE LATE FOR WORK.

THAT MANY DAYS ON THE DAYS I TRAP.

ALLOWING THEM TO STAY OVER AFTER SURGERY AT A CENTRAL LOCATION IS ALSO INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. BRENDA IS THERE.

SHE ACCOMMODATES AND COORDINATES WITH ALL THE COLONY MANAGERS ON DROP OFFS AND PICKUPS, AND IT IS ALMOST A PERSONALIZED SERVICE FOR US THAT WE, I THINK, IN FACT, COULD NOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT HER HELP.

THAT PACK PET ADOPTION CENTER IS JUST SUCH A GREAT LOCATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND IF THAT CANNOT BE CONTINUED THERE.

BUT AT LEAST IF THERE WERE SOME PLACE WHERE GARLAND COULD FIND FOR THE COLONY MANAGERS TO HELP OUT, TO HELP US OUT, TO HELP THE CATS OUT, JUST TO DROP OFF THE EVENING AND STAY OVER THE NEXT DAY. YOU CANNOT BELIEVE HOW IMMENSELY HELPFUL THAT WOULD BE.

I'VE PROBABLY SAID THAT TEN TIMES.

THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CURRENT TNR PROGRAM HAS ALLOWED MANY LIKE ME TO TRAP ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT CATS, THANKS TO THERE BEING MORE THAN ONE DAY A WEEK FOR TRAPPING SOMETIMES 2 TO 3 DAYS A WEEK, OFTEN AT LEAST TWO.

PERSONALLY, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRAP ENTIRE COLONIES, OFTEN NOT ONLY HELPING MYSELF, BUT ALSO HELPING OTHER CITIZENS OF GARLAND THAT CALL ME AND MY GROUP AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WILL COME OUT AND HELP THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE GENERALLY HELPLESS UNTIL THEY LEARN THE WAYS

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OF TNR. THE PROGRAM PROVIDES THE COLONY MANAGERS SO MANY THINGS.

IT BRINDA THANKFULLY GETS LOW COST MEDICINES FOR US MEDICAL CARE IF WE NEED IT.

FOOD AT LOW COST CAT CONDOS, CAT CAGES.

IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO KEEP THEIR OWN CAT LONGER THAN NEEDED.

SHE PROVIDES ALL OF THESE THINGS THROUGH HER HARD WORK, BUT THROUGH HAVING THE PACK TO SAVE, TO STORE ALL THOSE THINGS, AND TO ALLOW FOR THE SPACE THEY SEEM TO NEED YOU TO SUM UP, PLEASE. OK.

CURRENTLY, THE PROGRAM OFFERS ADDITIONAL SERVICES, VACCINATIONS, COMBO TEST FOR LEUKEMIA AND FIV DEWORMING, MICROCHIPPING, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT I AM AFRAID WE ARE LIKELY TO LOSE.

BUT IF AT LEAST THE CENTRALIZED LOCATION FOR THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP, THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE'S LIVES SO MUCH EASIER.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT BRENDA HAS DONE FOR THIS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHERRY LOCKE, AND THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY PATRICK MCCORMICK. HI.

MY NAME IS SHERRY LOCKE.

MY HOUSE IS AT 1520 ELIZABETH DRIVE.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE WITH THE COLONY MANAGERS AND GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES.

SINCE I FOUND THEM.

PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS SPENDING LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TRYING TO HELP OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT WAS SO SAD.

I HAD BURIED SO MANY CATS, AND I BEGGED PEOPLE FOR HELP AND PEOPLE JUST THERE WAS NOBODY TO STEP UP AT ALL.

AND THEN SUDDENLY I MET BRENDA AND I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A PROGRAM FOR TNR AND ALSO EDUCATIONAL SERVICES AND A PLACE WHERE WE COULD GO IN AND WE COULD GET TRAPS, WE COULD BE TRAINED ON HOW TO DO THIS.

AND THERE WERE SEVERAL DAYS A WEEK THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CALL BRENDA, FIND OUT WHEN THE NEXT TRAPPING DAY WAS TRAPPED.

THE CATS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ALWAYS SAY TOMORROW IS IS SPAY NEUTER DAY AND THE CATS ARE JUST GOING TO WALK INTO THE TRAPS.

IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE DAYS.

IN 2019 BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

THE REALITY OF IT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I TOOK 19 CATS IN THAT YEAR TO GET TNR'D.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM NOW.

THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY NEW KITTENS.

I HAVEN'T HAD TO BURY ANY CATS.

WE STILL HAVE A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS, BUT THESE ARE MY CONCERNS.

IF IT WASN'T FOR BEING ABLE TO DROP THE CATS OFF THE NIGHT BEFORE, WE DON'T ALL HAVE VEHICLES THAT WE CAN CARRY THESE THINGS TWO OR THREE TRAPS TO GET TO A CERTAIN LOCATION.

SO THERE HAD BEEN TIMES LITERALLY THAT IN MY LITTLE TWO SEATER CAR HATCHBACK, I WOULD DRIVE UP TO THE PACK THREE TIMES IN ONE EVENING BEFORE A DROP OFF TO TAKE TRAPPED CATS TO BRENDA'S. AND THEN SAME THING ON THE NEXT DAY WHEN IT WAS TIME TO PICK THEM UP, SHE WOULD EITHER WAIT TILL AFTER HOURS AND DELIVER THEM TO MY HOUSE, OR I COULD MAKE TWO OR THREE TRIPS BACK AND FORTH TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE CATS SETTLED AND AND READY FOR RELEASE. THE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY HELPFUL IS THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND LITTER, BECAUSE FOR I'M A COLONY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO FEED ALL THESE CATS.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WAS PAYING FOR ALL THIS OUT OF MY POCKET.

I'D SAY THE AVERAGE WAS 2 TO $300 PER CAT AND THEN THE ONGOING COST OF FOOD AND IF THEY WERE SOCIALIZED, THEN LITTER AND PLACEMENT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT I TRULY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IS THE EAR TIPPING.

OK. IT IS NOT ONLY THE NORM FOR CATS TO BE TIPPED IN THE LEFT EAR IN TEXAS, BUT THIS IS A NATIONAL IT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD.

YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS IF YOU'RE TRAPPING A CAT.

IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

IT'S 3:00 IN THE MORNING.

IT'S A BLACK CAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE CATS IN THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FIXED.

AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TO LOOK NOW FOR TWO DIFFERENT EARS OR IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S A HUGE, BIG DEAL.

AND I'M GOING TO NEED YOU TO SUM UP, PLEASE.

OKAY. AND AND SO I JUST WANT TO SING THE PRAISES OF GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES AND BRENDA JACKSON, BECAUSE IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR BRENDA, I WOULD STILL BE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT I HAD BEEN GOING THROUGH PRIOR.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT ARE COLONY FEEDERS AND THAT HELP TOO, AND THERE'S NO WAY THEY COULD DO ANY OF IT WITHOUT BRENDA AND

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PAWSIBILITIES. THANK YOU.

PATRICK MCCORMICK, FOLLOWED BY CALVIN NICHOLS.

WATCH YOUR HEAD.

IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS PATRICK MCCORMICK.

GLORY AND I LIVE AT 3213 RANCH DRIVE.

FOUR YEARS AGO, WE MOVED INTO MY WIFE'S PARENTS HOME IN ORDER TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THEM.

A FEMALE CAT HAD MADE A HOME UNDERNEATH A SHED IN OUR NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD, AS CATS DO, SHE BEGAN TO MULTIPLY.

AFTER TWO LITTERS, WE STARTED SEARCHING FOR HELP AND WE WERE LUCKY TO FIND BRENDA JACKSON AND THE TNR PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF ONE OF HER VOLUNTEER TRAPPERS.

WE GOT OUR COLONY FIXED AND VACCINATED.

NOW THEY CANNOT INCREASE IN NUMBERS.

WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME HAVING AS MUCH SUCCESS.

THE CATS HANDLED THIS WAY ARE HEALTHIER THAN IF LEFT COMPLETELY WILD AND THEY HELP CONTROL PESTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE HELP BRENDA PROVIDES IN ADDITION TO FACILITATING, TRAPPING AND NEUTERING, SUCH AS FINDING DEALS ON CAT FOOD AND BEING A SOURCE OF FLEA AND OTHER MEDS AS NEEDED WOULD BE IRREPLACEABLE.

SHE ALSO SUPPORTS THE PROGRAMS IN SOME WAYS HERSELF BY CONSTRUCTING AND SELLING CAT SHELTERS LARGELY OUT OF RECYCLED YARD CAMPAIGN SIGNS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE THINK THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND IT SEEMS TO US IT'S A SITUATION WHERE VOLUNTEERS WILL DO THE HEAVY LIFTING AND JUST NEED SOME MODEST FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND SOME WORKING SPACE.

AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.

I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE POSITIVE THAT WOULD COME OUT OF ENDING THIS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

CALVIN NICHOLS, FOLLOWED BY ELLEN MOONEY.

MR. NICHOLS, IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

CALVIN NICHOLS I LIVE AT 2401 NORTHRIDGE DRIVE, AND MY EXPERIENCE STARTED IN JANUARY OF 2015.

I HAD A MOMMA AND TWO KITTENS SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE.

I CAUGHT THE TWO KITTENS AND THEY'RE STILL WITH ME.

I ADOPTED THOSE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW MOM WAS PREGNANT.

SHE, ANYWAY SHE DELIVERED THOSE BABIES.

THEN THAT GOT WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

BY THE END OF MAY, I HAD 21 CATS AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I BECAME A COLONY MANAGER IN BETWEEN JUNE OF 2015 AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 15, I CAUGHT 18 CATS AND HAD THEM STERILIZED.

NOW, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU STILL SEE A COUPLE OF THESE CATS.

WE'VE GOT THREE REGULARS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NO MORE KITTENS, NO MORE KITTENS SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2015.

AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE TRAP.

YOU CAN'T CATCH 18 CATS WITH ONE TRAP IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

BRENDA PROVIDED TRAPS THAT WE COULD CHECK OUT FREE OF CHARGE.

THE STERILIZATION WAS FREE.

I COULD NEVER AFFORD TO HAVE ALL THOSE CATS STERILIZED.

AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.

I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, 50,000 FOR THE LEASE OF THE BUILDING AND I'VE READ 25,000 AND WANT TO COUNT.

I THINK THE REAL NUMBERS ARE ABOUT 11,000.

MY QUESTION IS, IF THE CITY HAD TO DO THIS SERVICE ON THEIR OWN, WHAT WOULD IT COST? ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE ARE VOLUNTEERS.

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO REPLACE THEM? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO FALL ON ANIMAL CONTROL.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

ELLEN MOONEY, FOLLOWED BY JULISSA VICENZIO.

SCORED AGAIN. YOU CAN STAY HERE.

THAT'S SET A TREND HIGHER.

SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING. I'M ELLEN MOONEY AND I RESIDE AT 1430 KINGSBRIDGE DRIVE.

I'M A FERAL CAT COLONY MANAGER, AND MY CATS HAVE BEEN SPAYED OR NEUTERED WITH THE HELP OF

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BRENDA JACKSON AND THE PROGRAM.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHANGES TAKING PLACE IN THIS TNR PROGRAM.

WHY DID GARLAND MOVE ALL TNR SURGERIES TO THE NEW GARLAND ANIMAL SHELTER AND HIRE A PART TIME VET TO DO THE SURGERIES? WHY ONLY 60 SLOTS ON ONE DAY OF THE WEEK? SELECT MONDAYS, NO SURGERIES THE REST OF THE WEEKDAYS.

THIS LEAVES LITTLE ROOM FOR WORKING WITH CATS TRAPPED DURING THE WEEK.

AS SOMEONE POINTED OUT, THEY DON'T COOPERATE.

IT IS A BONUS THAT GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES WILL NOW PROVIDE BOTH THE TREATMENT OF ADVANTAGE MULTI AND A RABIES VACCINE, ALONG WITH AN INITIAL VACCINE AGAINST COMMON CAT VIRUSES AND DISEASES.

ALTHOUGH LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER VENDORS WERE NOT GIVING THE OTHER THAN JUST THE RABIES VACCINE, THE ADDITIONAL VACCINE AND FLEA TREATMENT WERE BEING PURCHASED AND ADMINISTERED BY THE GARLAND TNR PROGRAM VOLUNTEERS, WHICH MEANS THE ADDITIONAL VACCINE AND FLEA COSTS WERE NOT BEING INCURRED BY THE CITY.

THIS STILL DOES NOT OFFSET THE ADDED COSTS OF HIRING A PART TIME VET.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE ANIMAL, THE GARLAND ANIMAL SHELTER REQUIRES A SECOND VET TO ASSIST WITH THE SHELTER SURGERIES, THE SHELTER VET OBLIGATIONS? AND THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WAS TO MOVE THE TNR FUNDING FROM THE VENDORS TO THE SHELTER. ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTOR OF TCAP.

BY UNOFFICIAL COUNT, GARLAND'S FERAL PROGRAM BROUGHT ABOUT 370 CATS LAST YEAR TO TCAP FOR STERILIZATION AND VACCINATION AT THE COST OF $9,335 TO THE CITY.

UTILIZING NEGOTIATED DISCOUNTED PRICING AS WELL AS BEING OFFERED FREE SPECIALS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MEANT THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND SAVED MORE THAN $16,775 USING TCAP SERVICES FOR STERILIZATION VERSUS PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES IN-HOUSE.

IN CONCLUSION, I REQUEST THAT THE STRONG MONEY SAVING PARTNERSHIP WITH TCAP AND THE GARLAND TNR BE REINSTATED BY ALLOWING TCAP TO FORM OUR COLONY SPADES AND NEUTERS.

IT WILL SAVE FUNDS FOR THE SHELTER AND ALLOW CATS TO RETURN SAFELY AND QUICKLY TO OUR COLONIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. JULISSA.

GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS JULISSA VICENZIO AND MY ADDRESS IS 4117 TIMBERLINE DRIVE GARLAND, TEXAS.

75042. GOOD.

SORRY. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I HAVE TNR'D HUNDREDS OF CATS. I GOT INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM WHEN I STARTED FEEDING A MOM AND FIVE OF HER KITTENS AND ALL OF THEM GOT PREGNANT.

I FIRST REACHED OUT TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES AND THEY LOST TWO OF MY CATS, SO I'M GLAD THAT THEY HAVE BETTER PRACTICES NOW WHEN TRANSPORTING.

I AM DOWN TO ONE CAT NOW.

I AM CONCERNED THAT THE PROGRAM WILL COME TO AN END.

ALSO, AFTER MAY OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL NOT HAVE A PLACE FOR CATS TO RECOVER.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DO NOT HAVE A GARAGE AND I CANNOT KEEP THEM INSIDE MY HOME BECAUSE MY ROOMMATE IS NOT FOND OF CATS.

IN ADDITION, I UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS EAR TIPPING THE RIGHT EAR.

THIS MAKES MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TRAPPERS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO CHECK BOTH EARS.

THE NORM IS THE LEFT ONE.

WE HAVE SPAYED AND NEUTERED MORE THAN 4000 CATS IN THIS CITY, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN EAR TIPPED ON THE LEFT SIDE.

IT TAKES LONGER AND THEY'RE VERY STRESSED OUT.

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MOREOVER, PAPERWORK.

I TOOK A CAT TO BE SPAYED AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY.

THAT CAT WAS NURSING TWO WEEK OLD KITTENS.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

LUCKILY, I WAS CONTACTED AND RELEASED HER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

OTHERWISE, THOSE KITTENS WOULD HAVE DIED.

IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, IF PAPERWORK WOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.

MY HOUSE IS PAID OFF AS WELL.

AND THIS PROGRAM IS MAINLY THE REASON WHY I STILL LIVE IN THE CITY HONESTLY.

THROUGH FEBRUARY 2022, THERE ARE 368 COLONY MANAGERS CERTIFIED.

4401 CATS HAVE BEEN STERILIZED, 240 ACTIVELY CARED FOR CAT COLONIES AND 30 COLONIES HAVE BEEN DISSOLVED THROUGH ATTRITION.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD HERE FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS CHOOSING NOT TO TESTIFY.

SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU THE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

CHRISTA PERCH AT 5569 CANADA COURT IN ROCKWALL CHOOSING NOT TO TESTIFY . AND NEXT SPEAKER CHARLOTTE WEEKES.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT THIS.

I SEE WE HAVE AUDIO VISUALS IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF PUT THEM.

OR MAYBE THEY'RE JUST VISUAL AND YOU'RE THE AUDIO.

CAN YOU GUESS? YES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS.

WELL, IT'LL BE ON.

I'M SURE IT'LL BE UP ON THE SCREEN HERE, TOO.

THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR HEARING US OUT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'M A FOUNDING MEMBER OF GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES AND PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, I HAVE DEDICATED MUCH OF MY TIME, MONEY AND ENERGIES TO SUPPORTING THE GARLAND ANIMAL SHELTER AND EXCUSE ME, AND ALSO HAVING HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING A HAND IN SEVERAL THOUSAND, MORE THAN 2000 CATS, DOGS AND ANIMALS ADOPTED THROUGH OUR ORGANIZATION. THE CITY ENTRUSTED US WITH THE OLD FIREHOUSE, WHICH WE JUST ROCKED IT UNTIL IT COULDN'T STAND ANYMORE.

SO AND AT THAT POINT, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER AND VACCINATIONS TO THE GARLAND AREA, AND THERE WAS NONE.

SO WE ENTICED TCAP TO COME JOIN US, WHICH THEY DID.

SO THAT PROVIDED A REALLY GOOD SERVICE.

ALSO, WE WERE ASKED BY THE SHELTER MANAGER, URIEL VILLALPANDO, ABOUT TNR AND DID I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT PILOT ON? WELL, OF COURSE I DID.

AND I MENTIONED SHERI AND CONNIE SWEENEY, AND IT WENT INTO OPERATION IMMEDIATELY.

THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT IS WE HAD A PLACE.

WE HAD A PLACE SO WE COULD ADEQUATELY TEND TO FERAL CATS IN TRAPS. AND THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE.

ALL OF THESE CATS ARE ALWAYS IN TRAPS, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE IN FINDING A LOCATION. BUT ANYWAY, SO WE WERE ASKED TO SET THAT UP IN THE FIRST YEAR.

IT WAS AMAZING AND HAS CONTINUED TO GROW WITH WITH RETURNING, TRAPPING AND RETURNING CATS THAT ARE WANTED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE STERILIZED.

AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT UNSTERILIZED CATS ARE NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO HAVE AROUND.

THEY CAUSE A LOT OF RACKET.

BUT STERILIZED CATS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOOD AND SHELTER TEND NOT TO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

HAVING THE PACK MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO ACTUALLY PULL THAT OFF AND THAT ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS. SO WE WERE VERY, VERY SHOCKED AND SURPRISED WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THE NEW SHELTER HAD NO INCLUSION OF TRAP NEUTER RETURN AT ALL.

AND WE FOUND THAT OUT KIND OF LATE IN THE GAME AND STARTED NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SHELTER AND MANAGEMENT AND WERE ASSURED THAT THERE WOULD BE A PLACE FOR US.

SO I'M REALLY SHOCKED.

I'M REALLY SHOCKED IF THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES DOWN, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE PROVEN OURSELVES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, I THINK WOULD BE VERY, VERY ENVIOUS IF THEY KNEW HOW WELL OILED MACHINE THE TNR PROGRAM IS, WHAT GOOD RESULTS IT HAS.

AND YOU KNOW, IT DISTURBS ME AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, AFTER ALL THE HARD WORK THAT I'VE

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SEEN DONE THAT WE WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM.

I REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO RECONSIDER THIS BECAUSE WHEN THE PANDEMIC TOOK THE LEGS OUT FROM US, WE WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO DO ADOPTIONS.

GUESS WHAT PROGRAM CONTINUED WITHOUT A PAUSE.

THE TNR PROGRAM, AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES.

SO I'M REALLY ASKING YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER TO BE CREATIVE AT FINDING A PLACE FOR US SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM AND USE THE CITY'S MONEY WISELY.

THANKS. IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SURE I THOUGHT EVERYBODY KNOWS ME, KNOWS WHERE I LIVE.

CHARLOTTE WISE, 1713 LOMBARD, GARLAND 75043.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND MY LAST SPEAKER IS BRENDA JACKSON.

HI. MY NAME IS BRENDA JACKSON AND I LIVE AT 5509 SADDLEBACK ROAD IN GARLAND 75043.

THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT I HAVE ADDRESSED THE CITY COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THE TRAP NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM OR THE TNR PROGRAM.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY CLEARING UP A FEW ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE CITY BRIEFING SUBMITTED BY MITCH BATES.

FIRST, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO ASSIST IN LOCATING THE FACILITY IN WHICH TO HOUSE TNR.

I'VE BEEN ASSURED BY ART MINOS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT TNR WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.

ON OCTOBER 16TH.

ART ADDRESSED A GATHERING OF COLONY MANAGERS PROMISING THE TNR WOULD HAVE A LOCATION.

THE BRIEFING ALSO STATES THAT THE CITY IS PAYING BETWEEN 20 AND $25,000 A YEAR FOR STERILIZATION. FOR MANY YEARS, I HAVE SUPPLIED A MONTHLY TNR REPORT TO GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES OR GAS.

GIVEN THE NUMBER OF CATS STERILIZED AND THE RELATED CHARGES THAT GAVE GAS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEEDED IN ORDER TO CERTIFY THE INVOICES.

THE ACTUAL YEARLY COST OF SURGERIES HAS RANGED FROM $11,746 TO 20,253, NOT THE INFLATED FIGURE 20 TO 25000.

WHEN I SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, I DISCUSSED HOW GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES EXCLUDED EUTHANIZED COMMUNITY CATS WHEN COMPUTING THE LIVE RELEASE RATE.

AFTER EUTHANIZING 271 CATS IN 2021 THAT WERE COMMUNITY CATS.

I WAS HAPPY WHEN THE SHELTER ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE BEGINNING TO SHELTER NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM, SO BOTH SNR AND TNR TAKEN CATS FOR STERILIZATION AND RELEASE THEM BACK OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT SNR CATS ARE NOT TRACKED UPON RELEASE, NOR ARE THEY INSURED TO BE FED OR CARED FOR OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SNR CATS ARE RECEIVED AT THE SHELTER AND ARE HELD FOR BOTH SURGERY AND RECOVERY.

SO THAT'S TYPICALLY AT LEAST TWO NIGHTS THAT THEY'RE HELD AT THE SHELTER AND THE MODIFICATION PROPOSED BY GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES TNR COLONY MANAGERS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO HOUSE AND RECOVER CATS.

THE CITY NEEDS TO UPHOLD THEIR PROMISE FOR DEDICATED SPACE FOR THE TNR PROGRAM, AND IF SPACE TRULY CANNOT BE FOUND, THEN THE SHELTER NEEDS TO TREAT THE RECOVERING TNR CATS AND THE SAME MANNER AFFORDED TO THE SNR CATS, WHICH IS AN OVERNIGHT STAY AT THE SHELTER.

IN CLOSING, THE GARLAND TNR PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE COLONY MANAGERS AND VOLUNTEERS ALL SHARE IN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROGRAM.

AND THE GARLAND TNR PROGRAM IS STEPS AHEAD OF THE COMMON PRACTICES THAT ARE FOUND IN OTHER CITIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BRENDA. AND THAT WAS MY LAST SPEAKER.

I'M SORRY, CHARLOTTE, YOUR POSTER BOARD.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT.

AND WE WILL BE HAVING A STAFF BRIEFING AND COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH OUR AGENDA.

[2. Consider the Consent Agenda]

THAT WILL MOVE US TO ITEM TWO.

CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THIS WILL BE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT.

IF THERE'S ANY.

I'VE NOT HEARD OF ANY ITEMS BEING REQUESTED TO BE PULLED, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ARE, IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW SO WE CAN HAVE STAFF HERE AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS THEM.

NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE WRITTEN BRIEFINGS.

[3. Written Briefing(s)]

ITEM THREE A, COVID BRIEFING.

ITEM THREE B, COUNCIL IS REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 25.05, RESERVATION FEES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY

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COUNCIL, THIS ITEM WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION AT THE APRIL 2022 MEETING.

AND ITEM THREE C, COUNCIL IS REQUESTED TO RE ADOPT THE JUVENILE CURFEW ORDINANCE AS A REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 370.002 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH, AFTER ADOPTION OF A JUVENILE CURFEW ORDINANCE, THE CITY MUST REVIEW AND RE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE EVERY THREE YEARS UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, AN ORDINANCE FOR RE-ADOPTION OF THE CURFEW WILL BE ON THE MARCH 15TH REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.

COUNCILMAN AUBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ACTUALLY, I KIND OF MISSED ON THIS ON 3A, I DON'T NEED A BRIEFING OR ANYTHING, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT ACTIONS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS UNDER IF WE'RE OKAY TO DISCUSSING HOW IT'S WRITTEN, BUT ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACK IN THESE MEETINGS AND WHATNOT? ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN END THE ONLINE PARTICIPATION PORTION? I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE IS ON THAT.

OR HAVE WE ALREADY...

WE ALREADY YES.

OH, DID I TOTALLY MISSED THAT. APPARENTLY, I THOUGHT WE HAD IT FOR THE LAST MEETING.

SO THE DIAL IN PART WE HAVE ENDED.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

OK. WELL, NEVER MIND.

THANK YOU. BUT IT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION.

YES. SO GOOD YOU GUYS ALREADY THOUGHT OF IT AND IMPLEMENTED IT.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM UNDER WRITTEN BRIEFINGS.

WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM FOUR, VERBAL BRIEFINGS.

[4A. Introduction of Brita Van Horne - New Building Official]

ITEM 4A, INTRODUCTION OF OUR NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M EXCITED TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TONIGHT OUR NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL, BRITA VAN HORNE.

BRITA, WELCOME.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE MET HER AT VARIOUS EVENTS PROBABLY BEFORE THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT AS WELL. SO WE ARE VERY GLAD TO HAVE BRITA ON TEAM GARLAND AND VERY EXCITED THAT SHE'S JOINING US FROM THE CITY OF ARVADA.

ARVADA I KNEW WAS GOING TO GOOF UP.

IT'S IN NEVADA, NEVADA, NEVADA, NEVADA.

BUT SHE COMES WITH A GREAT RESUME IN TERMS OF HER EXPERIENCE.

BUT I THINK, COUNCIL, WHAT YOU'LL FIND WITH BRITA IS THAT SHE HAS A VERY SIMILAR PHILOSOPHY AND APPROACH AS OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS TEAM HAS BEEN USED TO AND OUR BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN USED TO, WHICH IS A PROBLEM SOLVER.

SHE COMES IN WITH A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? AND LET'S FIND A WAY TO GET THERE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CODES THAT ARE SET UP.

SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HER ON BOARD AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND HER VERY APPROACHABLE AND I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO HER.

SHE WILL ALSO BE SUPERVISING THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH OUR PREVIOUS BUILDING OFFICIAL.

SO FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO HER OR RICK BARKER ON CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES OF COURSE AS WELL. SO BRITA ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL? WELL, I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY MY ADDRESS IS 800 MAIN STREET THAT'S [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] WHERE THANKFULLY I WAS ABLE TO.

APPARENTLY IT'S REALLY COMPETITIVE. I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE, AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND ONE.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I, OF COURSE, HAVE MOVED HERE.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE JOINING THE TEAM.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND ALSO CONTINUING THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WORKING WITH CUSTOMERS, WORKING WITH OUR TEAM MEMBERS AND KIND OF CREATING, YOU KNOW, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN WORK THROUGH PROBLEMS AND GET TO SOLUTIONS IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG CHANGE LIKE JUDD MENTIONED.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY EXCITED TO GET INVOLVED AND LEARN ABOUT A NEW CITY.

I'VE WORKED IN A VARIETY OF CITIES AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT, SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT PERSPECTIVE WILL HELP IN NAVIGATING KIND OF THE PATH THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE SOLVED.

AND JUST VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, WE'LL LET HER OFF EASY TONIGHT.

TOMORROW, I'M SURE.

YOU KNOW WHEN SHE HAS A PRESENTATION TO MAKE THEN.

WELL WE JUST WANT TO WELCOME YOU, WELCOME YOU TO THE CITY.

WELCOME YOU TO THE TEAM.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

THANKS. NEXT ITEM.

ITEM 4B, COUNCIL UPDATE ON GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES TRAP, NEUTER AND RETURN PROGRAM.

[4B. Council Update on Garland Animal Services Trap, Neuter and Return (TNR) Program]

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JASON. I BELIEVE YOUR PRESENTATION IS ON THERE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I KNOW. I THINK AT LEAST YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET ART MUNOZ, OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. ART AND I ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU THIS EVENING ABOUT GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE TRAP NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM AND HOW IT RELATES TO GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES, WHICH IS A LONGSTANDING VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT SHELTER'S WORKED WITH AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE PET ADOPTION CENTER AT 813 MAIN STREET.

VERY BRIEFLY, I WILL GO OVER SOME BACKGROUND BEFORE ART DIVES INTO THE DETAILS.

THE SPEAKERS, SEVERAL OF THEM GAVE A PRETTY GOOD BACKGROUND POINTS DURING THERE A LOT OF TIME. SO THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, FOR THOSE OF YOU ALL WHO MAY NOT HAVE VISITED, IS LOCATED AT 813 MAIN STREET.

WE ORIGINALLY LEASED THAT BUILDING IN 2013.

OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME WE WERE IN THE OLD SHELTER.

THE FUTURE BOND ELECTION WAS REALLY JUST A DREAM AND WE NEEDED ANIMAL SERVICES, NEEDED A WAY TO HAVE A MORE PUBLIC FACING FACILITY, TO PLACE MORE ANIMALS.

WE WERE UNDER A LOT OF HAVING DIFFICULTY MEETING CHANGING PUBLIC EXPECTATIONS ON ANIMAL PLACEMENTS. SO THE PET ADOPTION CENTER WAS ONE OF THE MANY WAYS THAT WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT. OF COURSE, IT WAS ESTABLISHED AS A SATELLITE ADOPTION FACILITY, PRIMARILY OPERATED BY GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES.

WE DID HAVE STAFF SUPPLEMENT THEM OVER TIME, BUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS THE FACILITY WAS OPEN REGULARLY DURING THE WEEK AND WE ADOPTED HUNDREDS, IF NOT A THOUSAND OR MORE ANIMALS OUT OF THAT FACILITY OVER THE TIME PERIOD THAT IT WAS IN USE.

OF COURSE, AS WAS MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS, THERE WERE USES OR ACTIVITIES UP THERE BEYOND SIMPLE ANIMAL ADOPTIONS.

I CAN RECALL PET TRAINERS PROVIDING CLASSES TO ANIMAL OWNERS.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THE FIRST LOCATION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

THAT WAS THE FIRST LOCATION WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER LOW COST STERILIZATIONS TO THE PUBLIC. OF COURSE, THE TRAP, NEUTER AND RETURN PROGRAM, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT THAT CENTER WAS UTILIZED.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD ASSET DURING THAT TIME.

THE ORIGINAL LEASE ENDED IN 2018.

AND OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME, THE BOND ELECTION WAS ON THE HORIZON.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXTEND THAT LEASE THROUGH MAY 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

THE LANDLORD HAS INDICATED THAT HE IS NOT WILLING TO RENEW THE LEASE FURTHER.

SO THAT MAY 31ST DEADLINE IS A HARD DEADLINE.

AND OF COURSE, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE THE PET ADOPTION CENTER WAS IMPACTED BY COVID 19. THAT WAS ONE OF THE PUBLIC FACING ACTIVITIES THAT WERE DISRUPTED AND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME COMPLETELY SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF COVID 19, TO THE POINT WHERE UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY THE TNR PROGRAM IS THE ONLY USE THAT HAS REMAINED OUT OF THAT FACILITY FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ART TO PROVIDE MORE SPECIFICS ON THE PROGRAM. HOW'S IT GOING, EVERYBODY? AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE A HUGE PROPONENT OF TNR AND I'LL KIND OF DIVE INTO WHY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN FUNDED SINCE 2014.

AND AS YOU HEARD, MS. JACKSON HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF THAT AND SHE'S BEEN PHENOMENAL ON DOING THAT.

NOW, AT THAT TIME, WE WERE USING OUTSIDE VETERINARY SERVICES, OBVIOUSLY AT THE OLD SHELTER, BECAUSE OF AN INADEQUATE MEDICAL SUITE, WE'RE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE STERILIZATIONS IN-HOUSE.

BUT WITH THAT, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO WORK WITH MS. JACKSON. WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS ISSUES FINDING SURGERY SLOTS, AND I KNOW SHE WAS HAVING TO GET IN LINE, NOT HER, BUT OTHER VOLUNTEERS AS WELL, GETTING THERE AT FOUR OR FIVE SIX IN THE MORNING JUST TO GET SURGERY SLOTS FOR TNR.

NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONAL MEDICAL SUITE TREATMENT ROOM NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY INVEST MORE IN OUR TNR PROGRAM.

AND THAT WAS THE GOAL BEHIND THIS, WAS TO HAVE A VET STRICTLY FOR TNR.

SO AND WE KNOW THAT IT IS THREE MONDAYS PER MONTH, BUT ALSO WE DO SAVE SLOTS DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT TRAPPING, HAVING TO TRAP, IT IS PLANNED AND IT CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES.

WE DID START OFF LAST WEEK AND WE DID.

WE WERE ABLE TO STERILIZE 21 CATS AND THAT'S PHENOMENAL.

IT WAS A GREAT JOB ON PLANNING AND TRAPPING.

WE DO HAVE SLOTS AVAILABLE DURING THE WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

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IF THEY NEED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SURGERY SLOTS, WE CAN DO THAT.

CURRENTLY PAWSIBILITIES IS STILL USING THE PAC.

I WILL SAY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A REALTOR TO TRY TO FIND THEM A SPOT FOR RECOVERY.

WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

SO MOVING FORWARD, WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR COLONY MANAGERS TO HELP US WITH OVERNIGHT RECOVERY, BUILDING OUR VOLUNTEER BASE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A STAFF SAFETY ISSUE.

ALSO, THIS DOES PREVENT THE SPREAD OF DISEASE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALSO WITH THAT, I DO WANT TO SAY WE ARE HUGE PROPONENT OF TNR AND SNR.

MATTER OF FACT, EARLY IN 2021, WE INVESTED WE STARTED PLANNING FOR THIS IN OUR PROGRAM WITH THE SHELTER NEUTER RETURN.

AND IT TOOK A WHILE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SUPPORT OUR MEDICAL STAFF BEFORE WE MADE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL STERILIZATIONS IN-HOUSE.

AND WE DID THAT. AND PART OF THE PLANNING WAS EDUCATING OUR OFFICERS AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON WHAT TNR AND SNR IS AND WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE.

I WILL ADMIT WE DID A POOR JOB OF EDUCATING OUR CITIZENS BACK THEN.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TRAINED OUR OFFICERS NOW TO EDUCATE MORE ON WHAT THAT IS.

AND SO NOW IF A CITIZEN TRAPS A CAT, WE PROVIDE WHERE WE OFFER THOSE STERILIZATIONS FOR THEM TO HELP REDUCE WHAT THE POPULATION.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MOST OF OUR CITIZENS LOVE THE IDEA OF IT.

SO WE HAVE STERILIZED OVER 150 COMMUNITY CATS SINCE ADDING THIS PROGRAM.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD HAVE EUTHANIZED CLOSE TO 150 CATS.

NOW WE HAVE STERILIZED THOSE CATS.

AND WE HOPE PAWSIBILITIES.

WE WANT PAWSIBILITIES TO PLAY A BIG PART IN TNR.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE GOAL.

SO TO END, WHAT I WANT TO EXPRESS TODAY IS WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENHANCE EXISTING PROGRAMS, TO DEVELOP NEW PROGRAMS, TO ENSURE THAT EVERY ANIMAL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, A LIVE OUTCOME.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER SMITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST BASED ON THE NOTES I TOOK DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YOU'RE TIPPING LEFT FIRST RIGHT.

WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? YEAH.

SO WE SPOKE WITH OUR VETERINARIANS, SEVERAL VETERINARIANS.

AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT WAS TO IDENTIFY THAT CAT IS ACTUALLY REMAINS IN THE CITY OF GARLAND AND PART OF A TNR OR COLONY MANAGER WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND.

JUST A WAY TO BETTER IDENTIFY THAT THAT IS A GARLAND CAT.

OKAY, FOLKS, GO AHEAD. AND IS THE REQUEST THAT WE DO IT ON THE LEFT AND WE'RE DOING IT ON THE RIGHT OR WHAT'S THE I MISSED WHICH ONE WAS WHICH? SO, YES, WE ARE DOING IT ON THE RIGHT EAR.

DOING IT ON THE RIGHT. OKAY. CORRECT. AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN SOME PROGRAMS ON THE WEST COAST. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS.

IT LOOKS LIKE TWO OF THE BIG COMPLAINTS ARE SUFFICIENT SPACE, SORT OF AS A BUFFER TO HANDLE THOSE CATS THAT COME IN EITHER AFTER HOURS OR ON A NON NEUTERING DATE.

WHAT SORT OF SPACE DO WE HAVE AT THE SHELTER? WELL, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET TO WHAT IS THE SPACE BEING USED FOR AT THE CURRENT FACILITY AND WHAT SPACE ARE WE LACKING AT THE SHELTER TO MAKE MAKE THIS WORK AS SMOOTHLY AS IT HAS BEEN WORKING? WELL, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SPACE? WELL, MAYBE LET ME TAKE A SHOT AT THAT.

AND IF I DON'T GET IT RIGHT, ART CAN CORRECT ME.

I DIDN'T ASK IT VERY WELL. SO.

[LAUGHTER] I THINK AT THE CURRENT AT THE DOWNTOWN ADOPTION CENTER AND OF COURSE IN SPEAKING WITH PAWSIBILITIES VOLUNTEERS, I THINK THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE STORAGE OF TNR CATS IS FAIRLY MINIMAL, A FEW HUNDRED SQUARE FEET BECAUSE AGAIN ON AVERAGE WE ARE SEEING ABOUT 20 CATS PER WEEK.

NOW OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN VARY, BUT ON AVERAGE THE OF COURSE WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL NEW FACILITY. THIS SPACE, A FEW HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, ISN'T NECESSARILY AN ISSUE AT THE NEW FACILITY IN TERMS OF WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THAT COLONY MANAGERS HOUSE THE CATS AT THE TRAPPING LOCATION.

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THERE ARE CONCERNS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I GUESS I'LL LIST THEM IN ORDER.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, STAFF SAFETY.

OF COURSE, FERAL CATS ARE THEY BEHAVE LIKE WILD ANIMALS.

SURE. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY CAN'T BE HANDLED SAFELY, BUT IT CERTAINLY INCREASES THE RISK TO STAFF. I HAVE A FEW SCARS FROM ONE MYSELF.

THE SECOND IS DISEASE CONTROL.

NOW WE HAVE A STATE OF THE ART SHELTER WITH MULTIPLE AIR HANDLING, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AIR HANDLING UNITS TO MINIMIZE THE SPREAD OF DISEASE.

BUT I GUESS AFTER THE DISTEMPER OUTBREAK, WE ARE A.

LITTLE GUN SHY, HUH? YEAH PARTICULARLY GUN SHY TO POTENTIALLY EXPOSE DOMESTICATED, ADOPTABLE ANIMALS TO DISEASES FROM FERAL CATS.

THE THIRD IS REALLY A WAY TO OR THE IDEA BEING TO MINIMIZE THE STRESS ON FERAL CATS WHERE THEY'RE STORED IN SMALLER PODS WITH CATS THAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUT OF THE SAME COLONY RATHER THAN IN A SINGLE LOCATION WITH OTHER UNFAMILIAR ANIMALS AND POTENTIALLY IN A FACILITY WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ODORS AND SOUNDS FROM DOGS, WHICH MIGHT BE PARTICULARLY STRESSFUL. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY, IN ORDER.

AND I'M JUST GOING OFF MEMORY.

BUT WHAT DID WE SPEND IN RENT PER YEAR AT THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN LOCATION? SO THE RENT IS $4,500 DOLLARS PER MONTH THIS LAST YEAR, WHICH IS $54,000 A YEAR.

OKAY. AND I HATE THAT MR. BRADFORD'S NOT HERE, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ASKED HIM AND HE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET BACK TO ME ON WAS AT THE CURRENT SHELTER SITE.

AND DO WE HAVE ROOM TO POUR A 20 BY 20 PAD AND PUT A STEEL BUILDING ON IT WITH WITH AC? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'RE FAIRLY CHEAP.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SPENDING 55 A YEAR IN RENT AT ONE LOCATION AND WE COULD DO 100 ALL IN ON A BUILDING THAT WOULD LAST US 20 YEARS.

DOES IT STILL GIVE US THAT DEDICATED SPACE WE NEED OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING, BUT WITH A BUILDING THAT COULD BE OPERATED AFTER HOURS WITH THAT SEPARATION AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE TO? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I AM NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT.

I WOULDN'T ANSWER THAT EITHER.

BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE BEEN KIND OF MUSING OVER.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN'T FIND THE SPACE, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD CREATE IT.

AND LIKE I SAID, I HATE TO ASK THAT WITH MR. BRADFORD NOT SITTING HERE, BUT I'D ASK CITY MANAGEMENT TO TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

I HAVE A CITY MANAGEMENT PERSON HERE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT WE WILL GET YOU ONE.

[LAUGHTER] OKAY, COOL. I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE NOW THAT WE'VE COVERED TWO MORE QUESTIONS I'M SORRY.

ONE OF THE ISSUES SEEMS TO BE WE HAVE THIS BURST IN NEED, BUT WE HAVE A A FIXED ABILITY TO DELIVER. AND ART YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, WHERE WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SLOTS OPEN OCCASIONALLY DURING THE WEEK.

BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN NEED FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF STERILIZATION AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A MONDAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO? BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A PURE LOGISTICS PROBLEM, RIGHT? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ON OUR SIDE TO SMOOTH THAT CURVE OUT OR DO YOU THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO BE DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY DEMAND? WELL, I THINK FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE RESOURCES IN TERMS OF STERILIZATIONS. NOW, ART HAS SCHEDULED A PART TIME VETERINARIAN SPECIFICALLY FOR MONDAYS, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE IS A NEED BEYOND THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE PREPARED TO MODIFY THE PROGRAM, MODIFY THE RESOURCES, OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS NECESSARY.

WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO WORK BECAUSE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH PAWSIBILITIES IS I MEAN, THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES THAT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER TIME.

WELL, YOU'VE BROUGHT IT TO US IN THE PAST ONE YEAR WE RAN OUT OF MONEY HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AND COUNCIL NINE TO NOTHING.

NO PROBLEM. LET'S GET IT DONE.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT THE COUNCIL BACK THEN CERTAINLY SAID, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND WE'LL FIND THE MONEY BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF THIS. LAST QUESTION I HAVE, I GUESS, IS THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEPT COMING UP FROM THE CITIZEN COMMENTS WAS THAT THROUGH THIS CURRENT PARTNERSHIP AND THIS SETUP, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO LOWER COST, POTENTIALLY BULK FOOD, BULK MEDICATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE FRONTING A LOT OF THIS COSTS THEMSELVES.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON OUR SIDE THAT ALLOWS US TO LET THEM TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR ECONOMY OF SCALE WHEN WE BULK BUY FOOD AND MEDICATION? I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EXPLORE.

UP TO THIS POINT THE CITY SIDE OF THE PROGRAM HAS REALLY FUNDED THE STERILIZATIONS.

BUT AGAIN, IF THERE IS A NEED BEYOND THAT TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, WE'RE CERTAINLY

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INTERESTED TO DO OUR BEST TO SATISFY THAT NEED.

OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO SEE THAT THE BEST OF WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE OFFERING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THAT MAYBE WE CAN MEET THEM HALFWAY SOMEWHERE.

AND IF AGAIN, IF WE CAN'T FIND A SPACE, MAYBE WE CAN PROVIDE A SPACE I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ON A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE RIGHT NOW AND WE MAY TAKE A SHORT TERM HIT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE US WORK TOWARD IT.

SO THANK YOU, GUYS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND LIKE COUNCILMAN SMITH, I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, THIS SORT OF THING WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING FOR AND ENCOURAGING CITIZEN INPUT.

AND YOU CITIZENS, YOU ARE THE MODEL AND EXAMPLE, MS. BRENDA AND ALL OF THE FOLKS WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN SMITH IS CHECKING MY NOTES, SO I'M GOING TO CUT MY LIST SHORT.

THE STAFFING ISSUE.

YOU SAID THAT THE THREE MONDAYS A MONTH, RIGHT? AND IF THERE IS A NEED, THEN ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES COULD BE SCHEDULED.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A NEED? MY QUESTION IS, ONE, HOW MUCH IN ADVANCE WOULD, LET'S SAY A COLONY MANAGER OR WHOMEVER MAKES THAT CONTACT HAVE TO NOTIFY YOU BEFORE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING CATS THERE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT SIX, EIGHT, 10 HOURS.

WHAT DOES THAT PROTOCOL LOOK LIKE? LET'S SAY IT'S NOT A MONDAY.

THERE IS A NEED.

WHAT IS THAT PROTOCOL LOOK LIKE? YEAH. SO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WELL, LET'S SAY TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL SNR SLOTS.

SO IF WE DON'T UTILIZE THOSE SLOTS, I MEAN, I CAN COORDINATE WITH MS. JACKSON AND SHE COULD LET ME KNOW, HEY, I HAVE TWO COMING IN TOMORROW.

PERFECT. BRING THEM ON OVER.

I KNOW WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER IN THE PAST WHERE IT WAS KIND OF A LAST MINUTE DEAL WHERE, HEY, WE HAD TO TRAP, A COMMUNITY CAT.

CAN WE BRING ONE IN? AND, YOU KNOW, WE HELPED HER OUT WITH THAT.

I THINK REALLY IT'S JUST COORDINATING WITH US, JUST COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH AND WE CAN CREATE THOSE SLOTS FOR THEM.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE ALL OUR ADOPTABLE ANIMALS, BUT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, THEN WE CAN FIT THEM IN THAT TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

OKAY. AND SO THAT PROTOCOL WOULD BE WOULD YOU NOTIFY MS. JACKSON THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOT THE NON MONDAYS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WE'VE GOT X NUMBER OF SLOTS SO THAT SHE AND HER TEAM CAN PLAN IS I'M TRYING TO GET A FIX ON WHAT WOULD THAT OR WOULD SHE HAVE TO CONTACT YOU OR YOUR TEAM? I'M TRYING TO SEE.

YEAH, I THINK AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ALL THE ANSWER TONIGHT, I'M JUST THIS IS MORE OF A THOUGHT QUESTION. SURE. I THINK FROM A COORDINATION STANDPOINT SO THAT IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE EXAMPLE FIVE SLOTS AVAILABLE NON MONDAY SLOTS IN ADVANCE THEN THEIR TEAM CAN DO BETTER PLANNING BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT TO WORK WITH.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? INTO A LITTLE BIT BETTER, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

THE SECOND PART OF THE STAFFING.

IF THE NUMBERS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND THAT LOVELY CHART SITTING DOWN THERE, IF THE NUMBERS ARE SUCH THAT OUR CURRENT STAFFING RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT ONE VETERINARIAN WHO DOES ALL THE PROCEDURES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. IF THE NUMBERS GET SO INCREASE.

AND WELL CAN WE DO AN ASSESSMENT TO SAY MIGHT THERE BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING IF, IN FACT, TO ADDRESS THAT, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW YOU OR JASON, COME FORWARD WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS? IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THAT WAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOUR TEAM AS WELL AS OUR VOLUNTEERS WITH WHO WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

LET ME I THINK SPEAKING. GO AHEAD.

FROM THE DEPARTMENT ABSOLUTELY.

WE WILL AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A FULL TIME VETERINARIAN ON STAFF.

RIGHT. WE'VE HAD THAT POSITION FOR YEARS.

RIGHT. SPECIFICALLY FOR TNR WHAT ART HAS DONE IS FOUND A PART TIME VETERINARIAN TO WORK

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REGULAR HOURS TO ENHANCE THE STERILIZATIONS THAT WE CAN DO FOR TNR.

OK. SO IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL MANPOWER, ART, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND PERHAPS COORDINATE AND BE DRIVEN BY THE NUMBERS IN COORDINATION WITH MS. BRENDA AND HER GROUP SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL MANPOWER.

AND ALSO, I LIKE COUNCILMAN'S SMITH IDEA, IF WE CAN LOOK AT SPACE, BECAUSE MAY WILL BE HERE SOON. WE'RE STARING IT RIGHT IN THE FACE.

MY LAST QUESTION IS, I KNOW THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN VIGILANTLY SEARCHING FOR SPACE. WHAT [INAUDIBLE].

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THAT YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED IN YOUR SEARCH FOR SPACE TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER? YEAH, WORKING WITH THE REALTOR, I THINK THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE SO FAR HAS BEEN MOST OWNERS ARE RESISTANT TO HAVING ANIMALS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE.

AND SO BUT OUR SEARCH IS CONTINUING, CORRECT? YES. OK.

ARE WE AND WE'RE LOOKING ONLY IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, CORRECT? CORRECT. ARE WE LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN SIZE FACILITY IN A CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN, OR IS THIS A CITYWIDE SEARCH? THIS HAS BEEN A CITYWIDE SEARCH.

BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT I'M NOT SAYING BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME SPACE IN PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF OUR STRIP CENTER AREAS THAT ARE SITTING.

WELL, AND IF I MAY GO AHEAD.

THAT WAS THAT SORT OF SPACE INITIALLY WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD IN MIND.

AND ART HAS WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE REALTOR FOR, WHAT, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS? IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE AT ALL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.

BUT WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN SHOCKED AT HOW UNAVAILABLE SPACE IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. CERTAINLY, IF THERE IS SPACE THAT ANY OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC OR ANY OF THE VISITING RESIDENTS KNOW OF, WE'D BE GLAD TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT UP TO NOW, IT'S BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING.

VERY DISAPPOINTING.

OKAY. AND MY LAST QUESTION, ART, IS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARING MAY IN THE FACE.

IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT FORTUNATE TO FIND AN INDEPENDENT PERSON WHO AGREES TO LEASE SPACE.

WHAT'S OUR ACTION PLAN? WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WORKING WITH THE COLONY MANAGERS, WORKING WITH MS. JACKSON AND ENCOURAGING, YOU KNOW, TO HOUSE THESE.

AND THIS IS FOR RECOVERY, OBVIOUSLY, OVERNIGHT RECOVERY AND WORKING WITH THEM UNTIL WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. OK. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT YES, THERE'S LOTS OF SPACE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S BEEN THE RESISTANCE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALLOW ANIMALS TO BE HOUSED THERE.

YES. YES, THERE'S SPACES ALL OVER THE PLACE, BE THEY COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, WHATEVER.

BUT THE RESISTANCE IS COMING FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BASS.

THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US UP HERE WHEN I SAY THANK YOU TO THE VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE COME TONIGHT, THAT THIS THE TNR PROGRAM WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEER CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

AND SO I REALLY, APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO FOR THE PROGRAM.

JASON, ART, LET'S SEE, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH REALLY HIT MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HERE.

BUT JUST REAL QUICK TO GO BACK TO THE EAR TIPPING.

OK. YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE, THE CITIZENS WANT ONE EAR DONE AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING A DIFFERENT EAR SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE COMING FROM GARLAND.

SO WHAT'S THE HOPE FOR THAT, FOR TIPPING A DIFFERENT EAR TO IDENTIFY THEY ARE FROM GARLAND WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THAT AND WHAT WOULD BE THE DRAWBACK TO DOING IT THE WAY THEY'RE SUGGESTING. YEAH, AND THAT'S IT'S JUST TO IDENTIFY THAT'S A GARLAND CAT.

NOW OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN SPEAK WITH OUR VETERINARIAN, BOTH VETERINARIANS THAT ARE HELPING OUT WITH TNR AND BRING THAT BACK UP AND SEE IF WE CAN OBVIOUSLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COLONY MANAGERS.

I THINK THAT'S AN EASY SOLUTION ON THAT.

OKAY, AWESOME. YEAH, I'D LIKE FOR WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED TO DISCUSS ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO

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KEEP THAT OPEN BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE ABSOLUTELY A CONCERN.

AND I CAN IMAGINE, TOO, IF I'M HANDLING THIS CAT, [LAUGHTER] IF I KNOW I'VE ONLY GOT TO LOOK AT ONE EAR ON ONE SIDE AND I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT SIDE, THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER. OK.

SO JUST GIVE ME THE BRIEF 32ND OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SNR AND TNR.

YEAH, SO TNR IS OBVIOUSLY PLANNING, TRAPPING AND WORKING WITH COLONY MANAGERS.

SNR, WHAT WE PROVIDE IS WE DO HAVE CITIZENS THAT TRAP NUISANCE CATS.

SO AND IF THERE IS A CITIZEN THAT TRAPS A CAT, THEN OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER WILL ACTUALLY COME PICK IT UP, BRING IT BACK, STERILIZE IT AND RELEASE IT BACK OUT.

OKAY, SO, IF I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SNR AND TNR IS JUST MERELY HOW YOU RECEIVE THE ANIMAL.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO AND THEN CURRENTLY THE SNR CATS ARE HELD AT THE SHELTER OVERNIGHT.

YES. OKAY. AND HOW MUCH OR HOW MANY OF THOSE CATS DO WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR? SO WE HAVE TWO FERAL HOLDINGS AND WE CAN HOUSE 12 IN EACH ROOM.

OKAY. AND SO BASICALLY PRETTY MUCH IT'S THE SAME CATS COMING IN.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW THEY COME INTO US.

OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT HERE IS I MEAN, I GUESS HINDSIGHT'S 2020 AND ALL RIGHT, I WOULD SAY THAT IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE WE HAD ENOUGH SPACE DEDICATED TO BRING THIS PROGRAM BACK IN-HOUSE WHEN WE BUILT THE SHELTER.

BUT HOW WAS IT? I GUESS JUST LOOKING AT IT, WE HAVE ROOM FOR CATS BROUGHT IN VIA SNR, BUT HOW IS IT THAT WE THEN DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THE CATS BROUGHT IN VIA TNR? RIGHT. SO WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING THEM IN FROM TRAPS, WE HAVE TO USE CERTAIN FERAL BOXES.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF OUR AREA BACK THERE.

AND ALSO, WE DO HAVE OTHER FERAL CATS THAT THEY DO.

WE DO HAVE CITIZENS THAT DO NOT REQUEST SNR.

AND SO WE FILL UP PRETTY QUICK AND THEN ADDING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL 7, 800 CATS PER YEAR TRYING TO FIND THAT SPOT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.

OKAY. SO WE DON'T SO IT IS A PHYSICAL CAPACITY PROBLEM.

OK. AND THEN AND ACTUALLY, I HAD THE SAME NOTES AS COUNCILMEMBER SMITH HERE HAD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SPACE DO WE HAVE SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, HAVE WE LOOKED AT DO WE HAVE ROOM TO BUILD ADDITIONAL, WHETHER IT BE SEPARATE, WHETHER IT BE NEARBY, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET LIKE NEAR WHERE THE OLD ANIMAL SHELTER WAS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE FOR THIS? I MEAN, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THOSE OPTIONS? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE TO.

UP TILL NOW, WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED OUR ENERGY ON TRYING TO FIND A COMMERCIAL OR A RETAIL SPACE TO LEASE.

WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT TO HAVING SOMETHING? BECAUSE LIKE THE YOU KNOW, THE GARLAND PAWSIBILITIES IS ON MAIN STREET NOW, RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF A RETAIL FRONT.

RIGHT. SO IT'S OKAY SO AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAD THAT BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF A RETAIL FRONT THAN WE HAD ON THE OLD ANIMAL SHELTER.

BUT NOW WE HAVE THIS GORGEOUS 20 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR ANIMAL SHELTER.

IT'S A GREAT RETAIL FRONT, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT VISIBILITY FOR THE TNR PROGRAM. IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY. SO WE COULD LOOK AT WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OTHER LOWER COST OPTIONS OTHER THAN SOMETHING THAT IS A RETAIL FRONT.

YES, SIR. OKAY, COOL.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT TO IMAGINE THERE'S SOME YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST GUESSING THAT WE HAVE SOME CITY FACILITIES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A RETAIL FRONT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT USING, THEN THAT'S GOING TO SAVE US SOME MONEY AS WELL.

OKAY. SO ON THE STERILIZATION OF THE ANIMALS AND THE VETERINARIAN INVOLVEMENT, I UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE WANTING TO DO IT AND I GUESS HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

LIKE HOW WERE WE? HOW WERE WE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF STERILIZING THE ANIMALS SIX MONTHS AGO, BEFORE THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS OPEN? WHAT HAPPENS? I MEAN, THE CATS COME TO THE TNR AND THEN THEY'RE IN A CRATE.

AND THEN WHERE DO THEY GO FROM THERE TO GET STERILIZED? WELL, BEFORE WE MOVED INTO THE NEW SHELTER, MS. JACKSON WAS UTILIZING TCAP AND SPAY AND NEUTER NETWORK FOR THOSE SERVICES.

OKAY. SO THEY WERE GOING TO SOME LIKE A DIFFERENT VET SOMEWHERE ELSE.

OK. YEAH, THOSE ARE PRIVATE, LOW COST STERILIZATION SERVICES.

OKAY. SO NOW INSTEAD OF OUTSOURCING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT IN? EXACTLY. PERFECT. OKAY, GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS.

I DIDN'T KNOW. WELL, HOW WAS IT BEFORE? OKAY. OKAY.

AND THEN WITH THOSE SERVICE THEN THEY WOULD JUST SCHEDULE IT AND IT WOULD THAT PART HAD NOTHING. WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SCHEDULING OF IT AND ALL THAT.

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RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU, ART.

THANK YOU, JASON. BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION THAT HOPEFULLY ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENRY.

BUT I WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE HERE.

SO FAR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITY.

I'M HEARING SOMETHING HERE, THOUGH, THAT I THINK MAY BE THE ROOT OF THE CONCERN.

I'M HEARING A GROUP OF CITIZENRY THAT HAVE SHOWN UP HERE TONIGHT IN BIG SCALE, THE LARGEST THAT I'VE EVER SEEN.

AND THEY HAVE COME BEFORE US THIS EVENING.

AND WHAT I'VE HEARD THEM SAYING IS WE HAVE DEDICATED A LOT OF OUR TIME, [INAUDIBLE], TALENTS TO THIS PROGRAM.

WE'VE SPENT OUR OWN MONEY YEARS, 2013, 2015, AND I HEAR THEM SAYING WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS.

WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN THROWN AWAY.

WE FEEL LIKE, YEAH, YOU JUST THROWN US AWAY.

YOU JUST AND NOT ONLY US, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR LEADER, MS. BRENDA JACKSON, OF WHOM HAS TRULY DEDICATED SO MUCH OF HER TIME TO THIS AND TRAINING.

AND SO IN HEARING THAT, IT MAKES ME FEEL THAT OK DO WE NEED TO MAYBE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD? BECAUSE I THINK IN LISTENING TO THEM AND HEARING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT, HOW MANY HOW OFTEN WE NEED TO DO THE SURGERIES AND HOW OFTEN WE NEED TO BE OPEN AND HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED TO DO THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

AND IN HEARING THOSE THINGS, THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TELL THEM WHY WE CAN'T DO THIS RIGHT HERE AND WHY THIS WON'T WORK OVER HERE, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ALONG THIS LINE HERE.

AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE CAN SAY IS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE YOU, THIS IS HOW YOU CAN BE INCLUDED.

THIS IS HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE.

THIS IS HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS PROGRAM WORK WITH YOU, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT WE WOULD SEND THIS MANY PEOPLE AWAY TONIGHT THINKING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HEAR WHAT THEY CAME TO SAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK. EXCUSE ME.

MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NO PROBLEM THERE.

[LAUGHTER] A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU TO CLEAR UP TOO.

ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED IS THE COST DIFFERENTIAL SAID IN THE AGENDA THAT OUR COSTS ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT SOME OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? AS FAR AS I GUESS THE STERILIZATION COSTS, I ALREADY AM CLEAR ON THE RENT.

YES. SO WITH THE CONTRACT, WE WILL SPEND $21,600 A YEAR FOR THE CONTRACT VET.

OKAY. TO STERILIZE UP TO 720 CATS.

OKAY. AND THAT CONTRACT VET OUR OTHER FULL TIME VETERINARY COULD DO THE SAME PROCEDURE, CORRECT? SHE CAN.

YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALREADY EXPENSED, BUDGETED AND PAID FOR IN OUR BUDGET CURRENTLY.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM? I SEE THE BOARD UP HERE AND THAT'S NUMBERS SINCE 2013.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY MANAGERS, COLONY MANAGERS WE HAVE CURRENTLY? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW MS. JACKSON DOES PROVIDE THAT TO US AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THINK WE'RE RIGHT AROUND 248 249 COLONY MANAGERS.

SURE, ABOUT CLOSE ENOUGH 250.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY COLONY'S ARE IN THE CITY ALSO? I BELIEVE CLOSE TO THAT.

SAME NUMBER, OKAY.

AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTED NUMBER OF COLONIES IS IN OUR CITY OR SIZE THAT? WHAT I'M GETTING AT HAS THE PROGRAM BEEN SUCCESSFUL? HAVE THEORETICALLY THIS PROGRAM AND I ASSUME SINCE 2013, YOU WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD START SHRINKING THE NUMBER OF COLONIES BECAUSE OF THE CATS AREN'T REPRODUCING.

DO WE KNOW ABOUT ANY NUMBERS ON? I'VE ACTUALLY GOT I DIDN'T GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2013.

I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS HAND SCRIBBLED BACK TO 2018.

AND LET ME JUST READ THEM OFF IN 2018.

THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, 503 STERILIZATIONS THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 2019, 496, 2020 WAS THE BANNER YEAR FOR THE PROGRAM, 806 STERILIZATIONS THAT YEAR DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN 2021 TO 716. AND SO FAR THIS YEAR, I GUESS THESE NUMBERS WOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH I GUESS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH JANUARY.

SO THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WERE AT 276.

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OKAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OUTSIDE INFLUENCES AND CATS COMING IN FROM OTHER CITIES AROUND US AND THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO GO UP AND DOWN AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT JUST LOOKING AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S FROM THOSE NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS YOU PRESENTED ABOUT 12, 13 AVERAGE CATS PER WEEK.

IS THAT THE VOLUME YOU SEE? BECAUSE ONE SPEAKER SAID WE BROUGHT IN 20 CATS AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE ROOM FOR THAT AT THE SAME TIME. IS THERE TIMES WHERE THAT FLUCTUATES? THERE'S MORE OF A DEMAND DURING CERTAIN PERIODS OF YEAR OR CERTAIN WEEKS? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT FLUCTUATES.

OBVIOUSLY COMING INTO MAY WE'RE REACHING WHERE KITTEN SEASON WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE. SO THIS TIME IN THE SUMMERTIME WILL BE AN INFLUX OF CATS COMING IN.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING SUCH AN ADVOCATE FOR THE PROGRAM TOO.

I UNDERSTAND. WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO WORK.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL OF US WANT HERE.

AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH PAWSIBILITIES AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES.

WE OBVIOUSLY WE SUPPORT IT WHEN THEY COME IN ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING BACK WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY AND HOPE TO FIND A SOLUTION ON THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, FOR YOUR ANSWERS, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL ALSO FOR THE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.

SO, I PARTICULARLY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO'S WHO SHOWED UP.

IT MEANS A LOT AND IT SAYS A LOT TO HEAR YOU GUYS, AND I DO HOPE THAT YOU FEEL HEARD AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE COVERED MOST OF AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD ON TO ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

SO, THE VET THAT THE PART TIME VET YOU'VE INDICATED THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO OVER 700 VACCINATIONS A YEAR.

THAT'S THE PLAN AT LEAST, AND THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD ALMOST COVER ALL OF THE TNR.

BASED ON THE NUMBERS FROM OTHER YEARS THAT WOULD COVER ALMOST ALL OF THE TNR NEUTERING FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.

IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.

THOSE ARE THE PRIOR NUMBERS ARE SORT OF WHAT WE USED TO.

RIGHT I'M JUST SAYING I MEAN, WE'VE HAD ONE YEAR WHERE IT WAS 800, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IF WE HAD ONE PERSON, ONE VET WHO COULD DO 700 PLUS MOST YEARS, THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING, AND WE MAY HAVE SOME THINGS TO IRON OUT IN THAT PROCESS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE AND I KNOW SOMETIMES COMMUNICATION CAN BE REAL DIFFICULT ON THESE THINGS, AND I KNOW Y 'ALL HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS MORE OF A COMMUNICATION ISSUE THAN AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE, THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE AND WE CAN COMMUNICATE BETTER.

AND I DON'T FEEL THE SENSE I'M GETTING.

TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THIS IS NOT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE TNR PROGRAM.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PUSHING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OUT, BUT IT DOES INVOLVE A MEASURE, AT LEAST FOR NOW, OF CHANGE, AND I KNOW THAT CAN YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SAY THIS I WANT TO SAY THIS ABOUT GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES, THAT IN THE SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, IT HAS BEEN A CONSTANT PROCESS OF IMPROVEMENT TO IMPROVE THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT TO IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THAT'S WITH RESCUES, WHETHER THAT'S WITH ANYTHING, AND NOW WE HAVE THIS REAL OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS NEW SHELTER AND THE THOUGHT THAT WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS OR A LOT OF THIS WORK IN HOUSE WITH RESPECT TO THE SURGERIES, I THINK IS WONDERFUL, BUT I DON'T GET THE SENSE I MEAN, I KIND OF FEEL, FROM WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED, THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS, IS HOW THESE CATS RECOVER AND REALLY WHERE THEY RECOVER.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DO THEY RECOVER IN ONE COMMON SPACE OR DO THEY RECOVER AT BASICALLY AT THE HOMES OF THE INDIVIDUAL COLONY MANAGERS? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW AND WE KIND OF WE DIDN'T GET A LOT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT SOME POINT.

SO, IF Y'ALL WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LET HAVE EVERYBODY SPEAK AGAIN, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL IN SOME WAY ABOUT WHAT LEVEL OF BURDEN IS THAT? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S MORE INVOLVEMENT.

THAT'S YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS CAT AND THEN BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HELP PROVIDE THE RECOVERY CARE FOR IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MAY NOT BE OPTIMAL. THERE MAY BE AND I'M HAPPY FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I KNOW THAT SAVINGS OF, SAY, 50 SOMETHING THOUSAND A YEAR, AND THAT'S

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WHAT THE LEASE HAD BEEN.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT LEASE WILL BE.

I DON'T THINK GIVEN I THINK WHAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT REAL ESTATE, IT MAY BE MUCH HIGHER, AND SO THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT ADDITIONAL BENEFITS ARE IF WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE TNR PROGRAM WITH THAT KIND OF FUNDING? AND SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE SUPER CREATIVE ON THAT, BUT JUST KEEP THESE LINES OF COMMUNICATIONS OPEN. I SUPPORT IT.

ON THE TIPPING OF THE EARS AND WHATNOT.

I KIND OF LEAVE THAT TO YOU GUYS.

I SEE THE VALUE OF UNDERSTANDING, HOW CATS ARE AND HOW THESE COLONIES ARE MOVING AND ADAPTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH TRAPPING CATS, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH OF A BURDEN IT IS TO CHECK LEFT EAR VERSUS RIGHT EAR OR BOTH EARS OR WHATNOT.

I KNOW IT'S MEANT TO PROVIDE AN EASY IDENTIFICATION FROM A DISTANCE AND WHATNOT.

SO, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO RELY ON Y'ALL'S PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT THERE, BUT ANYWAY, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND THOUGHTS ON THIS, AND I FEEL LIKE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES MESSAGES GET CROSSED AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S EASY FOR FOLKS TO FEEL THAT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT BEING LISTENED TO OR THEY'RE BEING PUSHED OUT, AND THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT HASN'T HAPPENED TO SOME DEGREE, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN KIND OF KEEP THESE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM AND INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE THE VOLUNTEERS WHO'VE DONE SO MUCH NOT JUST FOR US, BUT ALSO FOR THE ANIMALS, AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE I THINK THAT'S A SPECIAL OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE IS TO CARE FOR THE ANIMALS IN THIS CITY.

SO, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF.

WE'VE BEEN IN THIS DISCUSSION NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO, I DO HEAR THOUGH I DO HEAR THAT THE CITIZENRY BELIEVE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PART IN THIS, AND IF THAT BE THE CASE, I'M WONDERING WHY DO THEY FEEL THAT? WHY ARE THEY FEELING THAT THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A PIECE IN IT? BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'VE JUST SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS NEW FACILITY. IT'S A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I DO BELIEVE THAT MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAN BE DONE THERE, SHOULD BE DONE THERE.

THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE AND THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WHAT CAN WE DO AT THIS POINT TO INVOLVE THE CITIZENRY IN THIS SUCH THAT THEY FEEL THEY HAVE A REAL PART IN IT AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

I KNOW THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NEW FACILITY, ANOTHER BUILDING.

OKAY, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M NOT REALLY WITH THAT.

I'M MORE SO RIGHT NOW WITH USING THE FACILITY WE HAVE, USING THE OPERATION WE HAVE IN ORDER TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, BUT HOW ARE WE ABLE HOW CAN WE BE ABLE TO INVOLVE THEM MORE IN THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD? THAT'S THE QUESTION. WELL, AND I THINK FROM OUR STANDPOINT, I'LL LET ART CHIME IN.

YOU KNOW, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, CONTINUE THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, ENHANCE IT. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IN HEARING THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT, WE AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO REPEAT MYSELF.

WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO WORK AND WE WANT.

I KEEP HEARING I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT, AND I THINK THEY WANT IT TO WORK.

I KNOW THEY WANT IT TO WORK, AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION.

INVITE THE FOLKS I KNOW ART HAD A COLONY MANAGERS MEETING.

TELL THEM, WHAT WAS THAT A MONTH AGO.

OH, GOSH, THAT WAS OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

YEAH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO. [LAUGHTER] OH, AND TIME FLIES.

OKAY, WELL, THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I REALLY BELIEVE, AND IF WE FIND WE NEED A NEW FACILITY AFTER WE'VE GONE FORWARD, THEN I LIKE WHAT THE COUNCIL, SOME OF THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY STATED, YOU KNOW, PUT A BUILDING UP ON THE PROPERTY.

LET'S CONTINUE TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER VERA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO SPEAK TONIGHT THAT GAVE US A FOCUS ON WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND ART THE IN-HOUSE VETERINARIAN. HOW MANY DOES HE DO A YEAR, THE NEUTERING

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? FOR WHAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND 720 CATS PER YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT HE DOES. SHE DOES? RIGHT, AND THE OTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE DOES THE SAME THING.

YES, BUT SHE PRIORITIZES OUR ADOPTABLE ANIMALS.

NOW, WE DID INCORPORATE THIS IN OUR STERILIZATIONS, AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THREE SLOTS PER DAY, BUT THOSE KIND OF FLUCTUATE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1400, 1500 A YEAR.

I WOULD SAY WE COULD PROBABLY DO CLOSE TO 1000.

OKAY, OKAY, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST ART AND JASON, KNOWING HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS IS THAT? THAT'S MY AGENDA RIGHT NOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND I'M THE TYPE I BELIEVE IN TALKING TO PEOPLE RATHER THAN ABOUT THEM, AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE SITES, LOOKING AT OPTIONS AND I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING OFF THE TABLE, I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE.

I CERTAINLY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN AND TRUST YOU GUYS JUDGMENT TO GO AND LOOK AT THE BEST, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN FIND A CITY FACILITY, YOU COME BACK RECOMMEND TO THIS BODY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET AN UPDATE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE STARING MAY RIGHT IN THE FACE.

SO, IF YOU BUT I'D LIKE FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INCLUDE MS. BRENDA AND WHOMEVER SHE DESIGNATES HER TEAM.

AS YOU LOOK AT SITES, AS YOU LOOK AT SPACES AND TOGETHER, WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, PLUS, MS. BRENDA AND HER TEAM COME BACK AND GIVE AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED AT MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M NOT TAKING ANY OPTION.

I'M NOT TELLING, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE THIS OR IT HAS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE PROFESSIONALS AND I'M NOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND MS..

BRENDA AND HER VOLUNTEERS, I'M NOT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WANTED YOU TO DO THIS BY COMMUNICATING AND NOT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

IF YOU'RE AT THE TABLE, I'D LIKE TO SEE MS. BRENDA AND HER TEAM AT THAT SAME TABLE, AND WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US THAT YOU, AND MS. BRENDA'S TEAM COME BACK, AND WHAT AND THE SOLUTION THAT WE COME UP WITH IS REFLECTIVE OF THE INPUT OF BOTH THE CITY AND OUR VOLUNTEERS OVER THERE.

DOES THAT MAKES SENSE? SURE DOES. OKAY, THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ROUND THIS UP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST REAL QUICK, MAN, SO IF WE'RE DOING 1000 A YEAR, ARE WE SURE THE STERILIZATION IS WORKING? [LAUGHTER] SO DO OUR BORDERING CITIES HAVE THE SAME PROGRAM, THE TNR PROGRAM? MOST CITIES DO HAVE SOME SORT OF TNR PROGRAM.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY CITY, BUT YES, THEY DO.

OKAY, SO WHEN THE CATS COME IN, WHAT ASSURANCE DO WE HAVE THAT THOSE CATS ARE GARLAND CATS AND THAT THEY WEREN'T BROUGHT IN FROM ANOTHER CITY? I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS HARD, RIGHT.

AND TRYING TO POLICE THAT.

HOWEVER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR COLONY MANAGERS, WORKING WITH MS..

JACKSON, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING OUR CITY FUNDS FOR GARLAND ANIMALS.

YEAH, AND I GUESS FOR ME THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN ALSO, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF OUR PROGRAM IS MORE ROBUST AND WORKS BETTER, THEN I JUST WOULDN'T WANT US TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN THAT MANNER.

OKAY, THANKS ART THANKS MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TRY MY VERY BEST TO ROUND THIS UP.

OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE HAD SOME GREAT, INPUT FROM FOLKS WHO KNOW IT FIRSTHAND.

WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME GREAT INPUT FROM YOU GUYS WHO ARE OPERATING THAT BIG, BRAND NEW BUILDING THAT WE BUILT, AND WE'VE PUT YOU IN CHARGE OF IT AND YOU'RE OPERATING IT, AND I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE TNR PROGRAM IS VERY INTERESTING.

I CAN TELL YOU I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT OVER THE YEARS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED OUT GOING TO THE TRAINING, THINGS THAT THEY WOULD DO AT THE ADOPTION CENTER.

AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, I KNEW EXACTLY ZERO, AND AS THE PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED AND TNR YOU KNOW, FERAL CATS DON'T HAVE AS MANY FRIENDS AS YOU THINK.

THESE FOLKS ARE THE FRIENDS OF THOSE CATS.

BUT WE OBVIOUSLY GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND OVER THE YEARS GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. SO, I MEAN, IT IS A VERY DIVISIVE ISSUE FOR FOLKS SOMETIMES THE NEIGHBORS VERSUS

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NEIGHBORS THAT WE GET INTO, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THESE FOLKS HAVE HAVE STEPPED IN TO TRY TO HELP US CONTROL SOME OF THAT OVER THE YEARS, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT KIND OF SPACES ARE AVAILABLE.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AND I KNOW LANDLORDS HAVE BEEN RESISTANT AND OUR CURRENT LANDLORD HAS SAID NO MORE.

FINE. HIS CHOICE.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING I MIGHT SUGGEST IS AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING SOMETHING IS THAT WE LOOK AT BUILDING SOMETHING OR AND OR LEASING SOMETHING, WHATEVER.

A PHYSICAL BRICK AND MORTAR THAT WE LOOK AT SOME TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE JUST PURELY, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTRUCTION TYPE TRAILER, HOW YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN SEE HOW THE PROGRAM RESPONDS AND HOW OUR FACILITY RESPONDS WITHOUT COMMITTING TO BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING AND MODIFYING A BUILDING THAT WE TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET WHERE WE WANTED, BUT LOOKING AT MORE OF A A TEMPORARY TYPE SOLUTION AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY OR WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THOSE IDEAS AND SEE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY WE HAVE THE WILL TO FLEX AS WE NEED TO, TO MAKE THIS WORK.

EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO WORK.

EVERYBODY WANTS EVERYBODY TO BE INVOLVED IN IT, AND SO WE NEED TO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S A LINK THERE'S A CONNECTION IN THERE THAT WE JUST GOT TO CONNECT WITH.

SO, ANYWAY, WITH THAT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A BIT . SO, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS.

LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 7:55, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, AND WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS AT THE MARCH 15, 2022 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.

WE ARE GOING TO RESUME AT ITEM 4C TXDOT AND THE 635 EAST CONTRACTOR WILL PROVIDE AN

[4C. TxDOT and the IH635 East Contractor will provide an update to Council on theprogress of construction.]

UPDATE TO COUNCIL ON THE PROGRESS OF CONSTRUCTION.

MR. LUEDTKE, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD US OFF HERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE THE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TONIGHT.

JONATHAN KELSEY IS WITH TXDOT.

HE'S GOING TO BE DOING THE PRESENTATION.

HE'S THE SEGMENT MANAGER FOR ALL OF THE GARLAND SECTIONS, AND THEN WITH HIM IS DOUG [INAUDIBLE], WHO'S WITH PEGASUS LINK CONSTRUCTORS.

HE'S THE SEGMENT TWO MANAGER THAT'S THREE SEGMENTS AND HE'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL SO YOU GUYS CAN COME ON UP.

I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL SIT HERE STILL.

SO, THERE'S ONLY TWO CHAIRS? YEAH, ONE OF OUR CHAIRS ROLLED AWAY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED.

GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

I HOPE TO BE THE LEAST CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC TODAY.

YOU AND ME BOTH.

[LAUGHTER] AS PAUL INTRODUCED, MY NAME IS JONATHAN KELSEY.

I'M WITH TXDOT I AM THE SEGMENT TWO AND SEGMENT THREE MANAGER.

IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF HOW THE PROJECT'S BROKEN INTO THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS, SEGMENT ONE IS ESSENTIALLY FROM 75 TO ROYAL MILLER.

ROYAL MILLER TO LA PRADA IS SEGMENT TWO, AND THEN SEGMENT THREE STARTS FROM LA PRADA AND GOES INTO MESQUITE AND IS OVER SEGMENT OR OVER 30 IS ALSO SEGMENT THREE.

SO, THIS IS DOUG NALL. HE'S THE SEGMENT TWO CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR PEGASUS LINK CONSTRUCTORS.

SO, I GUESS ARE WE READY TO.

YOU GO AHEAD. WE'VE GOT IT ON OUR SCREENS HERE.

SHOW Y'ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES. YES. RIGHT.

SO, THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS WHERE WE ARE AT IN CONSTRUCTION, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE APPROACHING INTO THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2022.

EVERYBODY ASKS, WELL, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE DONE? ANSWER I GOT TO OFFICIALLY GIVE EVERYBODY IS LATE 2024 IS OUR PROJECTED END DATE.

THIS IS JUST A MAP, I GUESS, TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHERE GARLAND IS IN CASE YOU GUYS DIDN'T

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KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT? THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] AND THEN THE OBVIOUSLY THE CROSS STREETS THAT INTERSECT INTO GARLAND THAT WE'LL GO OVER TONIGHT IS WALNUT HILL, KINGSLEY, JUPITER, GARLAND AVENUE, SHILOH ROAD, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, CENTERVILLE, FERGUSON AND LA PRADA.

SO TO GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROJECT SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT ARE KIND OF GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS, WE'RE WORKING ON STILL FINISHING UP SOME OF OUR UTILITY RELOCATIONS. WE'RE WORKING ON DOING A LOT OF DRAINAGE.

YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S BEEN A HEAVY EMPHASIS RECENTLY, AND YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF FRONTAGE ROAD AND BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE'LL GO OVER A LOT OF THESE PICTURES TOO, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN GARLAND AVENUE, IT'S VERY HEAVY ON A LOT OF BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION OVER THE CROSS STREETS AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY DRAINAGE.

SO, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT WALNUT HILL CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, YOU'VE GOT RIGHT HERE FROM MAY 2021 TO THE MOST RECENT PICTURES WE HAVE OF MARCH 2022.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE CROSS STREET BRIDGE OVER KINGSLEY.

WE'VE FINISHED EVERYTHING BUT THIS ONE SPAN RIGHT HERE.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE STARTED SOME OF THE MAIN LANE PAVING APPROACHING UP TO IT.

SO, THINGS TO LOOK FOR COMING UP IN THIS LATE SPRING.

WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TRAFFIC SWITCH AND ADD SOME FRONTAGE ROAD ON THE WESTBOUND MAIN LANES IN BETWEEN JUPITER AND KINGSLEY, AND THEN AT JUPITER, YOU'LL NOTICE OUR MAY 2021 PICTURE VERSUS OUR MARCH 2022 PICTURE.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE BRIDGE WORK AND MAIN LANE PAVING, AND THEN THIS WILL BE THE CONNECTION IN HERE FOR OUR NEW FRONTAGE ROAD.

AND THEN ON GARLAND AVENUE, LOTS OF THINGS ARE GOING ON HERE.

SO, WE'VE GOT OUR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION OF GARLAND.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT'S IN HERE FROM MAY 2021 TO MARCH 2022.

WE'VE LAID THE ASPHALT AND POURED THE CONCRETE IN THERE.

SO, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING INTO THE NEXT PHASE THERE.

SO, COMING UP LATE SUMMER, WE'RE LOOKING AT SWITCHING SOME TRAFFIC ONTO GARLAND AVENUE AT 635. OPENING THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD BETWEEN GARLAND JUPITER, AND THEN BY DOING THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THE WESTBOUND MCCREE ROAD, AND THEN WESTBOUND 635 NEW ON-RAMP FROM GARLAND WILL BE SHIFTED CLOSER TO JUPITER.

SO, ON THOSE LAST THREE GOT SOME BETTER PICTURES TO KIND OF BETTER EXPLAIN THIS.

SO, WHENEVER WE OPEN THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD IN BETWEEN HERE, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A ROADWAY THROUGH HERE, SO IT'LL OPEN HERE AND YOU'LL CONTINUE DOWN, GO UP AND OVER THE OLD KCS RAILROAD BRIDGE, COME BACK DOWN AND MEET THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD RIGHT HERE, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON TO WHERE WE'VE ALREADY SWITCHED TRAFFIC INTO RIGHT HERE AT JUPITER.

RIGHT, AND THEN THE CLOSING OF MCCREE IN OUR ULTIMATE PLAN, MCCREE TURNS INTO A DEAD END ROAD. WE'LL HAVE, LIKE, A LITTLE CUL DE SAC RIGHT DOWN HERE ON THE END.

SO, ONCE WE OPEN UP THIS FRONTAGE ROAD, THERE'LL BE ACCESS FROM MCCREE TO THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD FROM VIA THIS LITTLE ROUTE RIGHT HERE.

AND JUST LIKE WE CAN'T SEE YOUR CURSOR.

OH, OH, THAT'S A WHOLE NEW PROBLEM.

YEAH. OKAY, WELL, LET ME STAND UP AND SHOW YOU.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WAS LOOKING.

I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THERE WERE SOME CONFUSED LOOKS UP HERE, AND I WAS LIKE, WHERE WAS HE GOING? HERE WE GO.

OPEN IT UP THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD.

YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS THROUGH HERE.

CONTINUE DOWN HERE OVER THE KCS RAILROAD, AND THEN THIS WILL CONNECT BACK DOWN HERE TO CONNECT TO THIS FRONTAGE ROAD.

RIGHT, AND THEN MCCREE CLOSING MCCREE.

THIS IS MCCREE RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S A CUL DE SAC THAT GOES IN RIGHT HERE AND THEY'LL STILL HAVE ACCESS IF YOU MOVE DOWN HERE VIA THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE.

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SO, THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FRONTAGE ROAD, BUT IT'LL CLOSE OFF MCCREE.

VERY GOOD. NOW.

GOSH I WISH I'D HAVE KNOWN YOU COULDN'T SEE IT EARLIER.

YOU WERE GIVING A GREAT DESCRIPTION, THOUGH.

[LAUGHTER] SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST CAN'T TELL WHAT.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROADS ARE IS THAT YOU'RE.

YEAH. IT ALL LOOKS LIKE A CONSTRUCTION SITE TO US.

WELL, LUCKILY, I LOOK AT THESE PICTURES ALL THE TIME, SO.

I KNOW. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT'S HAPPENING AT SHILOH? YOU'LL SEE CONTINUED BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION IN AND AROUND HERE.

SO, COMING UP, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE.

WE STILL NEED TO ADD SOME MORE DRAINAGE ACROSS SHILOH, SO THERE'LL BE SOME INTERMITTENT CLOSURES. SHILOH GOING RIGHT HERE, AND THEN COMING UP LATE 2022, WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN THE NEW WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD BETWEEN SHILOH AND GARLAND.

THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST NEW SECTIONS OF FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WE'RE OPENING THAT WILL GAIN ACCESS FROM SHILOH DIRECTLY TO GARLAND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO THE INTERSECTION THERE. VERY GOOD.

THAT WILL BE A MILESTONE IN OF ITSELF.

YES. YES, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

OKAY, JUST A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER AUBIN.

HI. THIS IS ACTUALLY ALL OF THIS IS MY DISTRICT, AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT SHILOH TO GARLAND AVENUE.

OKAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SO IS THAT THE ELEVATED PORTION? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO UP OVER.

IT'LL GO OVER GARLAND.

YES, IT HAS TO GO OVER GARLAND.

YES. SO. OKAY, SO WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT ELEVATED.

SO, IT PICKS UP RIGHT AT SHILOH AND IT GOES UP OVER BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO OVER THE KCS.

YES. THAT'S PART OF THE ACTUALLY IT'S PART OF THE DECK OF THE MAIN LANES, I THINK.

IS THAT RIGHT? AGAIN, THAT RIGHT? WILL BE ADJACENT TO IT.

ADJACENT. OK.

THERE'S A SEPARATE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND WESTBOUND MAIN LANE THAT'LL MERGE THERE KIND OF OVER GARLAND ITSELF, AND THERE'S A U-TURN TURN OR A TURN AROUND THAT KIND OF COMES DOWN OFF THE WESTBOUND TO GET BACK DOWN TO GARLAND AVENUE PROPER.

RIGHT.

SO, THAT WILL COME IN ANOTHER PHASE.

I'VE GOT TO GET TRAFFIC OFF OF THAT EXISTING ON-RAMP FROM GARLAND AVENUE TO THE WESTBOUND 635.

RIGHT. IN ORDER TO BUILD THE CIRCULAR.

THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT CIRCULAR RAMP BALLPARK ONLY? SAY 2023, PROBABLY THAT ONE'S IN EARLY 23.

OKAY, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

COOL THANK YOU. HANG ON.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. AM I HEARING YOU SAY THAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET ONTO 635 NOW FROM GARLAND FROM GARLAND ROAD, WILL YOU? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT YOU CAN'T.

BUT FROM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM SHILOH? I'M THINKING GARLAND ROAD.

AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, GARLAND ROAD SEEMS TO GO UNDER 635 OVER TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

ARE YOU FIXING IT SUCH THAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET UP ONTO THE 635 OFF GARLAND? [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, THERE'LL BE ACCESS OFF GARLAND AVENUE TO 635.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ACCESS TO WESTBOUND.

YES, RIGHT BUT THE OTHER SIDE GOING EASTBOUND THERE WON'T BE ANY ACCESS OFF WELL THERE WILL BE BECAUSE IT'LL CONNECT TO THE TERMINAL.

OKAY, SO REALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW IS [INAUDIBLE] THAT ONE'S A WAYS OUT, THOUGH.

OH, IS IT? OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE HERE, AND YOU COME DOWN THIS BRIDGE OVER SHILOH.

SO, IF YOU TRAVEL DOWN GARLAND AVENUE, IT'LL BE A SIMILAR TURNAROUND TO GET UP ON TOP OF THESE STRUCTURES HERE TO COME ACROSS GARLAND BACK ON TO EASTBOUND 635.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEXT INTERSECTION WE HAVE IS NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

YOU'L, ON THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF BRIDGE WORK HERE, HEAVY BRIDGE WORK HERE AT NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

WE HAD CLOSED THE EASTBOUND EXIT TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY PARTIALLY SO WE COULD BUILD IN THIS RETAINING WALL AND THE APPROACH FOR THIS BRIDGE.

SO, COMING SUMMER OF 2022, YOU'LL SEE THERE'LL BE A TRAFFIC SWITCH ALONG THE EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD BETWEEN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND CENTREVILLE.

WITH THIS SWITCH, IT WILL RELOCATE THE EXISTING ENTRANCE RAMP FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND

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THE CENTERVILLE FERGUSON EXIT RAMP.

SO, CURRENTLY THE ON-RAMP COMES IN RIGHT HERE.

THE ON-RAMP WILL BE RELOCATED TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD OR THE FRONTAGE ROAD WILL BE OPEN AND THE ON-RAMP WILL BE FURTHER UP HERE AND THEN THE CENTERVILLE EXIT WILL BE CLOSER TO HERE COMING BACK ACROSS.

SO, ESSENTIALLY THE TWO TRAFFIC WILL COME TOGETHER, THEY'LL HAVE A MERGE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO SPLIT.

SO, THIS SECTION OF FRONTAGE ROAD, YOU'LL SEE WE'VE ALREADY BUILT A LOT OF THIS FRONTAGE ROAD HERE AND THEN THIS IS THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION LOOKING NORTH.

SO, YOU'LL NOTICE COMING DOWN HERE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THIS FRONTAGE ROAD AND THIS IS THE CENTERVILLE EXIT CURRENTLY.

IT WILL BE RELOCATED BACK HERE.

VERY GOOD.

THEN CENTERVILLE, FERGUSON, YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF BRIDGE WORK HERE.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE POURED THE EASTBOUND MAIN LANE PORTION OF THE BRIDGE.

WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO SOME MORE BRIDGE WORK AND APPROACH WORK FROM EITHER SIDE OF IT.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MAIN LANE PAVING PUT IN THERE SO FAR BUT COMING UP, SUMMER 2022, WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN THE EASTBOUND CONNECTION FROM CENTREVILLE TO LA PRADA, WHICH WILL ALSO BE A NEW SECTION OF FRONTAGE ROAD THAT DID NOT CURRENTLY EXIST.

SO, LOOKING SOUTH, YOU'LL NOTICE MORE OF THAT FRONTAGE ROAD PAVING ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE RIGHT HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LA PRADA, AND WE'VE GOT A BIG SECTION OF THE MAIN LANE PAVING POURED THROUGH HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY TO SWITCH TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN LANES JUST YET. YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THIS IS FROM LA PRADA GOING NORTH.

HERE'S SOME MORE SECTIONS OF OUR FRONTAGE ROAD AND OUR CONNECTIONS BACK TO CENTERVILLE.

HANG ON A SECOND. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. LA PRADA.

WHERE IS THE EASTBOUND EXIT ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE? CAN YOU POINT TO THAT? WHERE IS THE EXIT? [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, NOT EASTBOUND, WESTBOUND.

YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHBOUND.

YEAH. NORTHBOUND.

YEAH, YOU CALL IT NORTH.

I CALL IT WEST.

EXIT TO LA PRADA.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT ONE.

YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN TO CENTERVILLE.

THAT'S THE CLOSEST RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE STILL A WAYS OUT FROM THAT ONE, BUT WILL THERE BE ONE? THERE WILL BE ONE. OKAY, SO THERE'LL BE A LA PRADA NORTHBOUND EXIT AND THERE'LL ALSO BE A NORTHBOUND EXIT TO CENTERVILLE.

YES. OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. MINUS ANY DESIGN CHANGES, BUT SHOULD BE.

I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED BECAUSE THAT WAS A POINT OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

OKAY, GO AHEAD. THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES WILL BE LA PRADA, AFTER THIS ONE.

SO, THIS IS ONE OF THE ESTHETICS.

SO, PREVIOUS IN JUNE, WE TOOK THIS PICTURE TO SHOW YOU GUYS IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD OF THIS, THIS IS IT CURRENTLY TOPPED OUT.

EVENTUALLY IT'LL GET PAINTED ONCE WE GET DONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, HERE WE GO. [CHUCKLING] OKAY, NO WORRIES.

NO WORRIES. ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, MAY 2021, LOOKING SOUTH, YOU'LL NOTICE WE HADN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF BRIDGE STRUCTURES BUILT IN THERE.

SO, AT LA PRADA ITSELF, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY RAISING THE GRADE.

SO, WE HAVE TO BUILD ALL THE MAIN LANE BRIDGES FIRST BEFORE WE CAN CLOSE DOWN LA PRADA AND DO ALL THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THERE, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE GOING ON AT LA PRADA RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, FRONTAGE, ROAD CONSTRUCTION, RETAINING WALL CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE THING TO HIGHLIGHT ON THIS EARLY SUMMER OF 2022, WE SHOULD BE OPENING THE NEW ENTRANCE RAMP TO NORTHBOUND 635.

SO, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT IN HERE.

WE'LL BE ADDING IN THE NEW ON-RAMP.

SO, THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

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IT'S COMING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

SO, EVERYTHING KIND OF CULMINATES TO THIS THE CLOSURE OF LA PRADA.

WE'RE FORECASTING THIS TO BE LATE 2022.

SO, BASICALLY, WE'LL BE CLOSING LA PRADA FOR A MAXIMUM OF 365 DAYS, AND THEN WITH THIS, IT WILL ALSO CLOSE WOOD MEADOW, WHICH IS AN ADJACENT SIDE STREET.

SO, THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS CUT OFF TO IT FOR UP TO 180 DAYS.

SO, HERE ARE PROPOSED DETOURS FOR LA PRADA CLOSURE ESSENTIALLY ITS OATS TO GALLOWAY OR OATS TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

SO, EVERYTHING FROM ABOUT HERE TO HERE IS GOING TO BE CLOSED, BUT THEY'LL STILL BE ACCESS TO NORTHBOUND 635.

SO, THAT SHOULD NOT CLOSE AT ALL.

SO, ANYBODY THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN LA PRADA AND GET ONTO NORTHBOUND 635, THAT WILL STILL REMAIN OPEN. HOWEVER, THE EXIT TO LA PRADA WILL BE CLOSED DURING THAT DURATION . SO, THAT IS WHERE, THIS IS THE WOODMEADOW DETOUR.

SO, IF YOU'RE ON LA PRADA, YOU GO AROUND TO FERGUSON AND SO FORTH, BUT HERE IS THE DETOUR FOR THE EXIT CLOSURE TO LA PRADA.

SO, IT'LL TAKE YOU DOWN TO OATS.

THE EXIT TO OATS WILL STAY OPEN FOR THE DURATION OF THE CLOSURE.

AN ALTERNATE ROUTE WOULD BE TO TAKE CENTERVILLE AND COME BACK AROUND THE SAME DIRECTION AS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH ON OUR PROJECT.

ANYBODY CAN GO TO WWW.635EAST.COM.

YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR OUR BLAST.

SO, EACH WEEK WE SET UP A LIST OF LANE CLOSURES THAT HAPPEN OVER THE WEEK.

SO, THAT GOES OUT EVERY SUNDAY IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO SIGN UP FOR THOSE.

YOU CAN ALSO SIGN UP FOR TEXT ALERTS.

SO, IF THERE'S A MAJOR CLOSURE COMING UP OR ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GET IMMEDIATE RELEASE OUT. SO, EVEN IF THERE'S A WRECK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WE SEND OUT SOME TEXT ALERTS TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, HEY, THIS THIS SECTION IS CLOSED.

SO, YOU CAN ALSO SIGN UP ON THE WEBSITE THROUGH THERE.

WE SEND OUT PROJECT NEWS E-LETTERS, ENGLISH AND SPANISH EVERY MONTH.

WE UPLOAD NEW PICTURES.

LIKE ALL THE PICTURES YOU SAW IN THERE, WE UPLOAD NEW ONES EVERY MONTH.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO A MONTH NOW.

SO, WE SHOULD BE UPDATING IT TWICE A MONTH.

IT ALSO HAS OUR TXDOT PROJECT TRACKER.

SO, IT TELLS YOU WHERE WE ARE INSIDE THE PROJECT.

THEY DO BUSINESS TASK FORCE VIDEOS FOR CERTAIN AREAS.

SO, IF YOU KNOW OF ANY DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US AND WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION KIND OF LIKE THIS. SO, WE DO VIRTUAL OR IN-PERSON PRESENTATIONS.

YOU CAN REQUEST A PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE TO PRESENT TO ANY ONE OF THE GROUPS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE FOCUS IS.

I KNOW WE'VE DONE ONE MOST RECENTLY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR JUST AT LA PRADA.

SO, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SO, OUT OF THE NAMES DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW ME AND DOUG.

KARL KEATING IS OUR SEGMENT THREE MANAGER FOR PLC.

SO, HE WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE MOST OF OUR LA PRADA QUESTIONS IF NEED BE.

YES, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE SLIDE PRESENTATION? YES.

THEN TO MAYBE EVEN GET A PRESENTATION FROM 635-30 BACK TO LAKE RAY HUBBARD, 30 TO RAY HUBBARD, THE I-30 CORRIDOR? YES, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT GROUP OF FOLKS.

I CAN PUT YOU INTO CONTACT WITH OUR.

OH, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION.

WE'LL GET WITH MR. LUEDTKE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GO AHEAD, AND THEN HERE'S THE SLIDE ABOUT HOW YOU CAN STAY CONNECTED IF YOU HAVE ANY

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COMPLAINTS YOU SEE POTHOLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL OUR 833 NUMBER, SO THAT SHOULD ALWAYS GET ANSWERED.

IF NOT, IT'LL GET HANDLED.

SO, THAT IS THE CONCLUSION.

VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO-TEM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE ALERTS THAT YOU SEND OUT EVERY SUNDAY. I DOWNLOAD THEM AND THEN SHOOT THEM OUT AND PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THEM BEFORE MONDAY MORNING.

SO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR SENDING THAT OUT.

ALSO, I'VE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME FOLKS THAT DRIVE THAT ALL THE TIME.

ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'VE ASKED ME IS COULD WE GET MORE ELECTRONIC OR DIGITAL SIGNAGE ON CLOSING LIKE RIGHT NOW, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSED YOU COME DOWN AND LA PRADA WAS CLOSED FOR A MINUTE.

SO, THOSE KIND OF SHORT TERM CLOSURES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE ORANGE [INAUDIBLE] BUT THE QUESTION CAME TO ME IS, CAN WE POSSIBLY GET SOME ELECTRONICS MESSAGING BOARDS THAT TALKS ABOUT CLOSURES AND DETOURS, PARTICULARLY WHAT I CALL THE BATMAN'S CURVE, I WAS TELLING YOU GUYS BEFORE THIS MEETING YESTERDAY MORNING, LBJ WAS BLOCKED OFF AT LA PRADA BECAUSE THERE WAS A FIVE CAR PILEUP ON A SUNDAY MORNING AND EVERYBODY WAS HIT IN THE SAME DIRECTION, AND THAT HAPPENS OFTEN IN THAT SAME AREA BETWEEN 30 AND NORTH WEST HIGHWAY.

FOR SOME REASON IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT AREA.

SO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT AND IT HAS BEEN AT A FEW PLACES, YOU KNOW, THE DIGITAL IN ADDITION TO THIS IS CLOSED SOME DIGITAL SORT OF INFORMATION BOARDS AT SOME OF THOSE EXITS. IS THAT SOMETHING? SO ANY TIME THAT WE CLOSE A ROADWAY, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF NOTIFICATION PRIOR TO APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION OR APPROACHING THAT CLOSURE THAT NIGHT OF AND WE TRY TO GET IT OUT AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS NOTICE.

IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE LA PRADA, WE'LL PUT UP A MESSAGE BOARD ON LA PRADA SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSED THIS NIGHT FOR THIS DURATION, DURING THESE TIMES.

THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE TRY TO YES. OKAY, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION AND I DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT. AT LEAST THAT'S THE INTENT.

WE TRY TO GET SEVEN DAYS EVERY TIME.

SOMETIMES WE MAY BE A LITTLE SHORT, BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IN SEVEN DAYS FOR ANY FULL CLOSURES. OKAY, WHAT ABOUT ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO BUSINESSES THAT ARE DIRECTLY IN FRONT THE SERVICE ROAD BUSINESSES.

WHAT ABOUT YEAH, SO, ANY TIME THAT WE CLOSE THE DRIVEWAY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AND SPEAK TO ANY OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW THIS IS COMING, AND WE TRY TO DO IT IN A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY CAN GET OUT WITH ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES OR CUSTOMERS SO THEY CAN GET THE WORD OUT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER AUBIN. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I REPRESENT THE DISTRICT THAT'S RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THIS, AND I ALSO SIT ON THE RTC, AND SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE, AND EVERYONE WHO'S WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, PLEASE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE. I ACTUALLY GET A LOT FEWER COMPLAINTS THAN I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT PATIENCE FOR SOME FOLKS WILL START TO WEAR THIN, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THE VISUAL, THE DAILY PROGRESS THAT YOU ALL ARE MAKING, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS PEOPLE GOING WHEN THEY DRIVE AND THEY SEE THAT YOU ALL ARE OUT THERE AND WORKING ALL OVER THE PLACE, UP, ALL UP AND DOWN THE WHOLE LENGTH OF IT, I THINK REALLY HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY THINGS ARE CLOSED AND WHY THEY'RE DEALING WITH WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF ORCHESTRATING ALL OF IT, AND THE TRAFFIC MOVES CANDIDLY A LOT BETTER THAN I REALLY WOULD HAVE HOPED FOR WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS $2 BILLION PROJECT.

SO, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND I DO HOPE YOU COMMUNICATE THAT ALL AROUND YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE I REALLY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

DO YOU REMEMBER AT THE LAST COUNT HOW MANY WORKERS WE HAD ON THE PROJECT?

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WE'RE JUST SHY OF 700 OF OUR OWN SELF EMPLOYED THROUGH PEGASUS, AND THERE'S PROBABLY 500 PLUS OF SUBCONTRACTORS AND INSPECTORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S OUT ON THE PROJECT.

SO AND THAT'S USUALLY A DAILY.

YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT GOING INTO THIS.

IT'S A MASSIVE PROJECT.

IT REALLY IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING, AND IT'S A SYMPHONY REALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT LITERALLY MOVING PARTS ALL ACROSS IT.

SO, I REALLY HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING AT ALL OF HOW YOU GUYS DO IT, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU DO.

SO, THANK YOU. WE'RE ALMOST THERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HALFWAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO FEEL THAT.

IT IS ALMOST EXACTLY HALFWAY.

RIGHT.

SO, WE'LL GET THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR ALL OF GARLAND, BUT PARTICULARLY SOUTH GARLAND, THIS KIND OF MOBILITY AND ACCESS AND EVERYTHING IS JUST A MASSIVE GAME CHANGER FOR US. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE ADDED LANES IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, BUT FOR US HAVING EXITS THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN ALL DIRECTIONS AND I MEAN, WHO, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF SUCH A THING AND HAVING THE ACCESS ROADS IS REALLY SPECTACULAR.

SO, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK; IT'S TAKEN MANY YEARS TO GET HERE, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE THE FINISH LINE NOT TOO FAR OFF.

I THINK WE'LL DEFINITELY SEE THE BENEFIT WHEN THE FRONTAGE ROADS COME APART.

VERY EXCITED TO SEE THOSE.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE CLEARED THE QUEUE.

GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THANK YOU, AND IF YOU COULD JUST, PAUL, YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH THEM SENDING THE PRESENTATION. YEAH, ALL RIGHT.

IT IS CURRENTLY ON THIS COMPUTER.

WELL, I'LL JUST TAKE THAT ONE THEN.

[CHUCKLING] THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 4D DIRECTOR OF STREETS DEPARTMENT WILL PROVIDE AN

[4D. The Director of Streets Department will provide an update to the City Council on thestatus of the department's maintenance and construction programs.]

UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL ON THE STATUS OF THE DEPARTMENT'S MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS. MR. OLIVER.

WELL, AT LEAST THAT WHAT IT SAYS ON THE AGENDA.

[CHUCKLING] THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING WITH IT.

FAIR ENOUGH.

OKAY, COME UP HERE.

OOPS, THAT'S THE LIST OF STREETS.

RENE, IS THE PRESENTATION LOADED? GOT IT ON MY COMPUTER, BUT IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THE.

HANG ON, WE'LL GET DAN IN HERE AND WE'LL SORT IT OUT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WHO GETS PAID THE BIG BUCKS? WE NEED TO GET YOU A CAKE.

THIS, OF COURSE, IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF A REGULAR UPDATE TO KIND OF LET YOU ALL KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH OUR PROGRAM.

THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY.

I THINK MANY ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, LOOKING AT WHERE WE WERE IN 13, 14 AT $10 MILLION AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AT $32 MILLION.

THIS COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE STEPPED UP TO GIVE US THE FUNDING TO DO THE KIND OF MAINTENANCE WORK AND CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT WILL AUGMENT THE CITY'S NETWORK. THIS IS A BUDGET NEEDS FORECAST, OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH 21-22 IS ACTUALS.

NOW, THIS FUNDING STREAM THAT'S SHOWN HERE IS ACTUALLY SHOWING IT KIND OF WHAT WHAT OUR

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PROJECTION IS NOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW, IS SHOWING THAT THE NEEDS TO MAINTAIN AT 90 AND 85 WILL START LEVELING OFF.

NOW, WHAT WHAT THESE PROJECTIONS DON'T INCLUDE AND I ASKED MY ASSISTANT ABOUT THIS AS IT DOESN'T INCLUDE A LOT OF TIMES WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON PROJECTS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THOSE FUNDS.

IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR WHEN WE DO WHEN WE DO REPAIRS, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL DO END UP DOING SIDEWALKS IF WE'RE TAKING CARE OF HAZARDOUS INFORMATION.

SO, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THAT.

SO, LOOKING FORWARD, SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS MAY HAVE TO BE BUMPED SOME, BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT WE ARE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE THAT THE NEEDS ARE GOING TO START LEVELING OFF.

AS YOU SEE, THIS IS THE KIND OF PATTERN THAT OUR STREET PCI/OCI HAS DONE.

IT DIPPED AND IT WENT TO A LOW POINT IN 2018, BUT IT STARTED ON THE WAY UP.

AT THIS POINT IN 2021, OUR NUMBERS WERE ACTUALLY TWO POINTS ABOVE WHERE WE HAD PROJECTED THEM TO BE WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION BACK IN 2013.

SO, WE ARE SEEING THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING THERE AND THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING THERE FAIRLY QUICKLY.

SO, THAT KIND OF GOES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PREVIOUS SLIDES SHOWING THAT SOME OF THOSE NEEDS ARE GOING TO START LEVELING OFF, AND AS YOU NOTICE HERE, OF COURSE, SOME OF THAT MAY DIFFER. WE MADE OUR CALCULATION WITH 4% COST INFLATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY, AS WE SEE, THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR NUMBERS AND WE'LL HAVE TO START LOOKING AT WHEN WE GET OUR BIDS AND SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS COME OUT, WE MAY HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY START READJUSTING SOME OF THOSE PRICES BECAUSE WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SEEN CONCRETE AND STEEL AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT GO UP IN PRICE, AND THEN OUR ALLEYS, OUR ALLEYS ARE RIGHT AT THE POINT WHERE WE PROJECTED THEM TO BE AT THIS TIME.

SO THE ALLEYS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT WE HAVE MADE A PRETTY GOOD RECOVERY FROM THE LOW POINT IN 2017, 2018, ONCE AGAIN, AND ALL THESE ARE BASED ON ALL THE FUNDING, ALL THAT STUFF IS BASED ON THE RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE THEY WANTED TO TARGET A 90 FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND 85 FOR ALL OTHER STREETS AND ALLEYS HERE, BREAKING IT DOWN BY THE TYPE OF ROADWAY YOU SEE.

OBVIOUSLY, ARTERIALS ARE IN THE BEST CONDITION.

THEY'RE THEY'RE AN AVERAGE PEAK OF ALMOST 90, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 90 ON AN ARTERIAL STREET, IF YOU THINK IT'S A 90, THEN ONE OUT OF EVERY TEN PANELS HAS SOME DEFECT TO IT.

IT SHOWS UP ON A LARGE SCALE ON THE ARTERIALS, BUT WE'RE SEEING THESE NUMBERS COME UP.

SO, WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WHERE WE WANT TO BE ON ARTERIALS, AND OBVIOUSLY, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE ALLEYS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED THE MOST, AND AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE LAST SLIDE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WE WILL SEE AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS WILL START TRENDING MORE FROM MORE OF THE LARGER ARTERIAL PROJECTS TO A LOT MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

THIS IS JUST PROVIDED HERE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME IDEA, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS THIS PIE CHART HERE, 42% OF OUR STREETS ARE 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER.

NOW, WHEN WE SAY THE STREETS 50 YEARS OLD, IF WE GO AND DO A REPAIR ON THE STREET, IF WE IF WE DON'T DO A COMPLETE REBUILD, IT DOESN'T GET THE AGE DOESN'T GET RESET, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF IT IS A LOT NEWER THERE.

THE ONLY TIME WE RESET THE AGE IS WHEN WE COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCT THE WE COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCT THE STREET, RECONSTRUCT THE BASE AND REDO THE ENTIRE STREET.

THEN THAT RESETS THAT STRAIGHT INTO THAT INTO THAT NEW, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW STREET.

SO, SOME OF THESE STREETS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE OLDER, THEY DO HAVE THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF CONCRETE REPAIRS MADE ON THEM OVER THE OVER THE YEARS.

SAME THING WITH OUR ALLEYS.

ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF OUR STREETS AND ALLEYS THAT ARE PRETTY OLD. I THINK IT'S 44% BETWEEN--I'M SORRY, IT'S 24 THAT'S 60 YEARS AND OLDER, BUT THEN WHEN YOU CLEARED 40 YEARS AND OLDER, [INAUDIBLE] OVER HALF THE STREETS OR AT LEAST HALF THE ALLEYS ARE 40 YEARS AND OLDER, AND BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE, WHEN THEY GET BUILT WITH THE STREET, UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT AND WE'RE REBUILDING 10 TO 15 PER, THEN OVER TIME YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE BEING IN THOSE OLDER CATEGORIES. JUST TO GIVE YOU UPDATE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR STREET COMMUNICATIONS UPDATE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON THAT WE PAY THE SALARY [INAUDIBLE] WORKS IN PUBLIC AND MEDIA RELATIONS HERE, BUT I'LL GET A SHOUT OUT TO PATTI MORAN.

SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THIS WORK.

SHE DOES EXCELLENT PRESENTATIONS.

SHE PUTS TOGETHER ALL THE MONTHLY STREET TALKS THAT GO OUT, THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATES, ALL THESE DIFFERENT ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THAT WE'VE COMPLETED ABOUT EXPLAINING WHAT THE PCI IS AND OUR CONCRETE CRUSHING OPERATIONS, WINTER WEATHER PLAN.

SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE SET UP.

ANOTHER ONE THAT WE DID RIGHT THERE WAS THE FLOOD GATES AND WE JUST COMPLETED THE RAILROAD CROSSING ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

SHE'S ALSO DONE SOME REAL SHORT Q&A, LIKE 3O SECOND Q&AS.

WHY DO WE DO THIS? ONE OF THE ONES WAS THAT I JUST SAW WHAT'S IN THIS TREATMENT IS HOW DO WE DECIDE WHICH PROJECTS WE SELECT.

SO, THERE'S A LOT OF USEFUL INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO CONSUME, AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT SHE JUST FINISHED, ACTUALLY, SHE'S USING

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THE DEVONWOOD RECONSTRUCTION TO DO THE STREET TALK TO, WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN MY STREET IS RECONSTRUCTED. SO, WE'RE TAKING THE PROJECT FROM THE VERY FIRST ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END, AND WE'RE GOING TO WALK CITIZENS THROUGH WHAT THE PROJECT ENTAILS, SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW LONG A PROJECT WILL LAST AND WHY IT LAST, WHAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE.

ONE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT, SHE'S TRYING TO TRANSLATE A LOT OF THIS CONTENT INTO SPANISH. PATTI IS ACTUALLY FLUENT IN SPANISH, SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL THAT SHE CAN DO ALL THAT. SHE CAN TRANSLATE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION INTO SPANISH.

THE PAVING OF UNPAVED VALLEYS, THAT'S A BIG ONE OF THE BOND PROGRAMS THERE.

SO, WE'RE PUTTING WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM ON HOW THAT WORKS, AND THEN I THINK ONCE THEY FINISH SHILOH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH ENGINEER, SHE'S DOING A START TO FINISH ON SHILOH SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE HOW THESE PROJECTS CROSS PROCESS SHOULD BE DOING MORE ON THE PROCESS ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, AND THEN SHE'S GOING TO UPDATE THE RAILROAD ONE AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE RAILROAD.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE ON OUR POTHOLE REPAIRS AND PATCHES.

WE'RE RIGHT ON TARGET, ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE BUDGET TREND.

NOW, THESE OTHER ITEMS, WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND TREND.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE BEHIND ON THE MAINTENANCE IS THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS OUR ASPHALT OVERLAY.

WELL, OUR ASPHALT PAVER WENT DOWN IN OCTOBER AND AS YOU RECALL, WE ACCELERATED THAT PROJECT, IMPROVED THE PAVING MACHINE AND WE'VE GOT IT OUT THERE NOW, AND SO WE'RE OUT CATCHING UP AND PAVING AND WE WILL GET TO OUR 35 LANE MILES BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

THE MAINTENANCE GROUP JUST KIND OF HANDLES ALL MISCELLANEOUS TYPE THINGS, ANYTHING, PATCHING POTHOLE, THE GRADING OF ALLEYS, TREE REMOVAL AND ALL THE SEVERE WEATHER RESPONSE COMES FROM THE MAINTENANCE GROUP AND OUR CONSTRUCTION DASHBOARD IT'S BEHIND AND WE'RE BEHIND ABOUT 20%, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS ON THAT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

WE'RE FIGHTING VACANCIES AND TRYING TO FIND IF ANYBODY OUT THERE KNOWS A GOOD EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF THOSE.

WE COULD ALWAYS USE MORE EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, BUT PART OF THAT, TOO, IS THAT THE STREET CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T TEND TO BE A STRAIGHT LINE.

IT TENDS TO BE MORE SUMMER HEAVY.

SO, I THINK WE'LL SEE IN THE SUMMER, IT'LL PROBABLY WITH THE VACANCIES, PROBABLY TREND A LITTLE BEHIND, BUT WE STILL BELIEVE THAT WE'LL GET CLOSER TO THAT.

WE'LL GET A LOT CLOSER TO THAT TOTAL OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT JUST SOME FIVE-YEAR STATISTICS LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE REPAIRED OR RECONSTRUCTED 334 LANE MILES.

THAT'S 14% OF OUR--THERE'S 2358 LANE MILES IN THE CITY.

WE'VE DONE WORK ON 14% OF THOSE WE'VE REPLACED OR REPAIRED SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR ALLEYS AND WE'VE OVERLAID ALMOST SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR STREETS WITH ASPHALT . SO, ALTOGETHER, WE HAVE WORKED, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE WORKED ON NEARLY 20% OF THE STREETS IN THE CITY, SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE, SOME KIND OF REPAIR, SOME KIND OF RECONSTRUCTION, AND IT'S LOOKING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD FROM APRIL TO JUNE, WE'LL BE WORKING A LOT MORE ON STREETS LIKE I SAID, THAT INCLUDES THE RECONSTRUCTION AND THE REPAIR PROJECTS, THE ALLEYS.

WE'VE GOT A CURRENT ALLEY CONTRACT IN PLACE THAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO WORK ON AND ON THE OVERLAYS LIKE I SAID IN THE NEXT QUARTER, WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING 12 LANE MILES OF THAT. SO, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM GETTING TO OUR 35 BEFORE THE YEAR IS OUT. GOING FORWARD TO OUR 22 TO 27, WE KIND OF EXPANDED IT TO A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM BECAUSE--OR ACTUALLY THAT'S SIX--WE'RE TRYING TO DO A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH WITH OUR STREET CONSTRUCTION AND TRY TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN WE GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT JUST PICK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE STREETS THEY MAY ALL BE FAILED, BUT JUST PICKING THE ONE OR TWO THAT'S THE WORST AND NOT DOING THE OTHER ONE.

SO, AS WE DO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF EXTEND THE PROGRAM SOMEWHAT, BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A BETTER WAY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BUT WE IMPLEMENTED OUR CHOREOGRAPH SYSTEM IN 2018 AND THAT'S THE NEW PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO, SINCE THAT TIME, ALL OF THE STREETS AND ALLEYS IN THE CITY HAVE BEEN INSPECTED AT LEAST ONCE.

SOME OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY, THE WORSE CONDITION ONES ARE MORE FREQUENTLY INSPECTED, AND THEN WE HAVE FINALIZED OUR PROGRAM, THE SCENARIO BUILDER.

IT'S KIND OF A COMPARTMENT OF THIS PROGRAM IS WHAT REALLY WHAT DOES THOSE PROJECTIONS THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER AND SO WILL WE CONTINUALLY BE LOOKING AT THOSE PROJECTIONS TO SEE WHERE THOSE NEEDS ARE AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM, OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS WILL BE RECONSTRUCTING RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

WE HAVE THREE CONCRETE REPAIR PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

THOSE TOTAL LIKE $11 MILLION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THAT WE'RE DOING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WE HAVE A GROUP OF ABOUT 13 ALLEYS THAT ARE PRIMARILY IN DISTRICT EIGHT THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS FIRST SET OF ALLEYS THAT WE ARE

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REDESIGNING, AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE EACH YEAR TO HAVE A SET OF ALLEYS THAT WE'LL REDESIGN AND WE'LL SEND OUT TO CONTRACT, AND WE GENERALLY GROUP THOSE IN ABOUT 10 TO 12 ALLEYS THAT WE BID OUT AS A CONTRACT.

THE SOIL STABILIZATION, THAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS THAT'S CONTINUING ONGOING.

OUR PROCESS IS TYPICALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO REPAIRS ON AN ARTERIAL STREET, WE TRY TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THAT AND DO THE STABILIZATION AND THE LIFTING WHERE THE JOINTS HAVE SEPARATED, LIFTING THOSE AND PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER BEFORE WE DO THE REPAIR PROJECTS, AND THEN THE VERY FIRST MISCELLANEOUS OR WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE LAST MILE PROJECT THAT WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED.

IT ACTUALLY COMPLETED A LITTLE EARLIER BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS DOING THAT CONTRACT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THAT IS I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE SEVEN MEMBERS OF THAT CREW WHEN THAT CONTRACTOR DISBANDED HIS LOCAL OPERATIONS.

SO, THERE WAS A SILVER LINING BEHIND THAT BLACK CLOUD, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL REMEMBER THAT WE AWARDED THE MOST RECENT CONTRACT ON THE FIRST.

SO, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL PROBABLY BY THE TIME THEY EXECUTE THEIR PAPERWORK, EITHER LATE APRIL OR EARLY MAY, BE OUT AGAIN DOING THOSE WORKS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE STREETS THAT HAVE THE ONE OR TWO PATCHES THAT WE MAY HAVE, WE MAY HAVE PASSED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, TRY TO GET THOSE KNOCKED OUT SO THAT WE'RE NOT COMING BACK AND REDOING THE ASPHALT PAVING ON A REPETITIVE BASIS AND THEN THERE WAS A SEPARATE ATTACHMENT THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU ALL, THAT'S THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE 2023 THROUGH 2027.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE 2022 STREETS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE ONES IN 2023 AND THOSE ARE ASTERISK ON THAT SHEET, BUT THOSE ARE NOT THE ENTIRE.

OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL DO.

WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING AND WORKING ON THE LIST THERE, AND WE'LL TRY TO [INAUDIBLE] STAY A YEAR AHEAD. A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND UPON THE WATER AND SEWER LAND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE COORDINATE AND TRY TO STAY CLOSELY TIED IN WITH THEM SO THAT WHEN THEY DO THOSE REPAIRS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SLIDE IN RIGHT BEHIND THEM WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR SO. SO, THERE'S NOT A LONG TIME BETWEEN THE UTILITY REPLACEMENT, AND SO THAT INVOLVES A LOT OF COORDINATION. SO, THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT AT THIS POINT READY TO PROJECT HOW THESE ARE THE 24, 25, 26, 27 PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE THEM IDENTIFIED THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT TRANSFERRED FROM THE 5050 SHARE AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT TRANSFERRED FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

WE WERE A LITTLE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE PUT THE PROCESS IN PLACE WITH THE REVENUE RECOVERY TO GET ALL THOSE NOTIFICATIONS OUT.

WE SENT OUR FIRST NOTIFICATION OUT ON MARCH 3RD.

SO, WE'RE TRYING TO SEND THEM OUT IN GROUPS OF MAYBE 10 TO 15 AND MAYBE A WEEK OR SO.

SO, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE WILL CLEAR OUR BACKLOG OF OUR REQUESTS, AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE FIND OUT IS HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN ABOUT A 40 TO 50% HIT RATE ON THOSE. WHEN YOU SEND OUT TELL THE RESIDENTS THIS IS WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS AND THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE PROGRAM HAS THOSE ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS NOW SO THAT TAKE RATE MAY BE A LOT HIGHER JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM MAY QUALIFY FOR A LOT MORE OF THOSE DISCOUNTS.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR OWN SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT AND ACTUALLY THE BIDS FOR THAT OPEN TOMORROW, AND SO IT SHOULD BE SCHEDULED UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF UNUSUAL DELAY, IT SHOULD BE COMING TO COUNCIL THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, AND SO HOPEFULLY BY MAY WE WILL HAVE CONSTRUCTION STARTED WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START GOING IN AND BY THAT TIME, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH REQUESTS THAT WE CAN JUST GIVE THEM A BIG LIST OF PROJECTS AND SAY HERE, GO TACKLE THEM.

THE ONES IN THE MEANTIME THAT HAVE BEEN MORE IMMEDIATE, WE HAVE HANDLED THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE ON AND ALSO SOME OF THE ONES WHEN OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WORK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DEEM A HAZARD, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE HAZARDS.

SO, YOU DON'T RUN INTO ADA ISSUES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT WE'RE GENERALLY TRYING TO CONFINE THOSE TO THE ONES THAT ARE TRUE HAZARDS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING ALL OUR ARTERIAL INDUSTRIAL CONNECTOR, STREET SIDEWALKS.

HISTORICALLY WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR PCI/OCI EVALUATION, WE'VE ONLY LOOKED AT THE STREETS.

SO, WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK NOW AND START TO LOOK AT OUR SIDEWALKS AND TRY TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE CITYWIDE ON SIDEWALKS, AND SO BUT WITH OBVIOUSLY THAT MUCH SIDEWALKS AS THERE IS, THERE'S MORE THAN 400 MILES OF SIDEWALK IN PLACE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITY STAFF IN CONJUNCTION WITH GISD WILL CONTINUE TO DETERMINE NEW SIDEWALK NEEDS, BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE THAT HANDLES THE REQUESTS FOR NEW SIDEWALKS WHERE SIDEWALKS DON'T EXIST, AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY'RE EVALUATING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THE [INAUDIBLE] VALLEY PROGRAM, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT WAS PASSED IN THE 2019 BOND ELECTION, WHERE WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 350,000 A YEAR FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND THAT ALLOWS

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FOR A LITTLE OVER FOUR MILES OF ALLEYS, BUT NOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE ALLEYS WITH MULTIPLE GRADING REQUESTS AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SINCE OCTOBER 1ST, 2014, THE NUMBER OF SEGMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE 138 WITH TIMES THAT WE'VE GRADED THREE OR MORE TIMES AND THEN SO FORTH . SO, COORDINATING WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO PAY THE VARIOUS PROJECTS, THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, THE CELESTE VISTA, THE CLIFF RITA AND THE LEWIS RANDOLPH ARE IN PLACE, AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO TAKE CARE OF DRAINAGE PROBLEMS WHEN WE ADDRESS THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS IF LET'S SAY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH RUTTING UP TO A CERTAIN POINT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AND TAKE PLACE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE ALLEY IF THERE REALLY ISN'T A NEED, PAVE THE ENTIRE ALLEY, IF THERE'S NOT A NEED, IF THERE'S NOT A VEHICULAR NEED FOR THAT, AND HERE'S KIND OF A SCHEDULE OF WHAT PROJECTS WE'VE GOT IN PLACE.

THE CELESTE VISTA THAT'S BIDDING.

SO, WE ANTICIPATE THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL START IN MAY.

THE CLIFF RITA ACTUALLY WAS PART OF A WATER DEPARTMENT PROJECT.

SO, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BID.

THEY'RE WORKING ON THE UTILITIES NOW.

SO, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE PAVING WILL TAKE PLACE, BUT PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS THAT ONE WILL BE PAVED.

THE LEWIS RANDOLPH IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT.

IT'S UNDER DESIGN. IT'S SPRING OF 2023, AND ALL THESE OTHER ONES, THE OTHER REMAINING ONES ON THERE, THEY ARE A PROJECT WE HAVE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN IN HOUSE WITH A CONSULTANT AND WE WILL BE BIDDING THOSE OUT ONCE WE GET THE PLANS.

LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE 30% DESIGN PLAN.

SO, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE A GROUP OF ALLEYS ABOUT THAT NUMBER THAT WE'LL BE TRYING TO TACKLE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OF PAVING SOME OF THESE ALLEYS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH 94 MILES OF ALLEYS AND ONLY BEING ABLE TO PAVE ABOUT FOUR, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO ALL OF THEM, BUT WE'RE TRYING AS BEST WE CAN TO DETERMINE THOSE THAT ARE IN THE WORST CONDITION AND THOSE THAT HAVE UTILITY THAT WE CAN COORDINATE FROM A UTILITY BASIS, AND THIS LIST I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS IN ANY DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE YOU THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED IN THE LAST YEAR, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE OVERLAYS, AND THEN THIS IS THE PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON IN THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE [INAUDIBLE], ALL THOSE ONES IN THE REDWOOD, OAKWOOD, ALL THOSE WOOD STREETS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

THEY'RE ALL PART OF A CONTRACT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER PLACE.

SO, WITHIN THE NEXT 4 TO 5 MONTHS, ALL OF THOSE SHOULD BE COMPLETED, AND THEN THE ONES IN DISTRICT TWO ARE PART OF THAT AS WELL.

SO, THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT.

THE REMAINING ONES IN DISTRICT, THERE'S A FEW IN DISTRICT EIGHT THAT ARE PART OF THIS, THE PROJECT THAT REPLACES THE KINGSBRIDGE CHANNEL, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THEM ARE UNDER DESIGN, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FALL PROBABLY A FALL BID DATE ON THOSE ON THOSE ALLEYS. STREET PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT GOING.

I JUST [INAUDIBLE] AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR CARROLL AND MAYFIELD.

THOSE ARE PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE DONE WE'VE WE'VE PROVIDED MOST OF THE PAVING MONEY, BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS THEY STARTED OUT AS WATER AND SEWER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE CONTRIBUTED TO.

SO, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS MANAGING THOSE, BUT THESE ONES, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE TWO ASTERISKS, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF WITH OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS THIS YEAR, AND THEN OUR OBVIOUSLY, YOU SEE OUR ARTERIAL REPAIRS, THE DALLAS COUNTY PROJECT, SHALLOW DUCK CREEK AND OATS ARE ON THAT LIST AND THEY'RE SUDDENLY UNDERWAY, AND THEN WITH OUR PAVING PROCESS, AS I SAID, WE JUST WE JUST STARTED PAVING AGAIN.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF SOME BIG PROJECTS WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO PAVE THE ROAD THAT GOES OUT TO THE CREEK PLANT THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS THE TREATMENT PLANT DOWN THERE IN SUNNYVALE.

WE ALSO WE JUST FINISHED COMPLETED BEN DAVIS.

I UNDERSTAND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

THEY'VE GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF.

WE HAD TO MILL AND OVERLAY, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE WE REDID OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT REDID THEIR SHOP, THEY DIDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR PAVING . SO, WE WE MILLED AND OVERLAID AND WE'RE RELAYING ALDER PARK, THEIR ASPHALT PART OF THE PARKING LOTS. I THINK ON ONE OF THE OTHER SIDE IT'S GOT A LOT OF CONCRETE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR THEM TO HELP THEM OUT AND KIND OF HELP JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOFTEN THE COST OF THAT OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION, OF THAT BUILDING.

THIS IS JUST A LIST OF SOME BIGGER PROJECTS.

BOB TOWN ROAD. WE'VE WE'VE DONE THIS PAST YEAR, CENTERVILLE ROAD, WE'VE DONE THAT IN VARIOUS PHASES. THAT WAS THE SECOND [INAUDIBLE] SHOW YOU.

WE DID THE BIG PROJECT THERE IN 2017, AND SO WE COME BACK FIVE YEARS LATER, AND REALISTICALLY, IF YOU'RE DOING THESE PROJECTS WELL ON AN ARTERIAL, YOU MIGHT AFTER YOU DO A BIG CLEANUP PROJECT, THEN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO COME BACK ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO AND JUST KNOCK OUT BECAUSE SPOT PACES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FAIL, AND SO WE TRY TO DO THAT.

FIRST STREET, THE LITTLE GAP YOU SEE, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROJECT THAT THE THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS IS DOING.

SO, THEY'RE PUTTING A WATERLINE IN THERE.

SO, THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE PAVEMENT AS PART OF THAT, JUST NOT ONE WE'RE DOING.

FOREST LANE, WE'VE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED.

ROSEHILL ROAD.

THAT CREEK IS WE'VE DONE THE LIFTING AND THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO THAT ONE STARTED

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TODAY THAT WE'RE DOING THE PAVEMENT REPAIRS ON DUCK CREEK, DUCK CREEK ROAD, AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT THE COUNTY'S DOING THE 50% COST SHARING WITH US MILLER ROAD.

WE KNOW THAT LITTLE SECTION BETWEEN SATURN AND OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD THE TEXTILE PROJECT, BUT THE PORTION BETWEEN SATURN AND GLENBROOK WAS BID, BUT IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY ENGINEERING'S LOOKING TO PROBABLY HAVING TO REBID THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SOME TURN LANES THERE AT GLEN TRYING TO ADD A TURN LANE THERE AT GLENBROOK TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT ISSUE WITH WITH THE THRU LANE OBVIOUSLY GETTING BLOCKED UP BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF A TURN LANE THERE ON THE EAST WEST TRAFFIC AND OATS ROAD IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE COUNTY PROJECTS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SHILOH IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE COUNTY PROJECTS THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN AVENUE D, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR, AND THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, THE ALLEY REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR OF THOSE.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE ONE. THAT'S ALL THE ONES IN YOUR DISTRICT.

COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AND WE'VE COMPLETED FOUR OF THEM TO DATE.

SO, WE'RE WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

AS I INDICATED, THE LAST MILE PROJECT IS THE ONE THAT WAS COMPLETED.

AND WE AND NOW WE HAVE DONE THE SECOND ONE, THE MISCELLANEOUS CONCRETE REPAIR PROGRAM.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY HANDLING THE REPAIRS ON SHILOH THAT WAS BEING DONE UNDER THAT CONTRACT. THE LIFTING SERVICES WE TRY TO DO 1,000,000 MILLION A YEAR ON LIFTING, AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS THE OLD CONTRACT, THE NEW CONTRACT ACTUALLY, WE UPPED IT TO $2 MILLION THAT WE'RE SPENDING A YEAR ON THAT LIFTING SERVICE CONTRACT, THE ARTERIAL PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE. THAT'S ONE WHERE WE ACTUALLY PIGGYBACKED OFF PLANO AND WAS ABLE TO DO ONE YEAR WHEN WHEN THEY WERE TERMINATING THE CONTRACT AND THEIR CONTRACTOR WAS NO LONGER WORKING ON THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO JUMP IN AND PIGGYBACK OFF THAT AND DO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK WITH THAT CONTRACTOR, AND THAT'S THE SAME CONTRACTOR THAT GOT THE SHILOH ROAD PROJECT AND THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT, AND THEN THE ARTERIAL REPAIR PROGRAM, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT WE AWARDED AND WE'VE GOT FOUR UNDERWAY AND WE'VE GOT FOUR CONTRACTS ON THAT, AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REALLY IS THE RAILROAD PROGRAM.

WE HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO TAKE A LOOK AND TRY AND IMPROVE THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.

THE FIRST STREET SPUR LINE WAS ONE WHERE WE JUST TOOK OUT OLD PAVEMENT AND PUT NEW PAVEMENT IN BUCKINGHAM ON HOPEFULLY A Y'ALL HAVE DRIVEN ON BUCKINGHAM AND SAW HOW MUCH A DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT THAT CROSSING IS OVER WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.

FOREST LANE THAT ONE WILL PROBABLY WE TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT'LL PROBABLY START IN APRIL THE ONE AT SHILOH ROAD.

THAT ONE DOESN'T REQUIRE REPLACING THE TRACK IS JUST REPLACING THE PAVEMENT ON THE APPROACH, AND THEN FOREST LANE NEAR KIRBY THAT'S THE DIAGONAL CROSSING UNDERNEATH THE DART TRACK THAT WILL.

WE'LL PROBABLY START IN MAY.

WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THEM BOTH UNDERWAY AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN KINGSLEY ROAD NEAR NATIONAL. THAT'S WHEN WHERE WE HAVE WE HAVE SENT THE WE HAVE ACTUALLY APPROVED THE AGREEMENT. WE SENT THE PAYMENT TO THEM, AND SO WE'RE WORKING OUT ON THE SCHEDULE WITH KCS TO GET THAT ONE REPLACED.

KINGSLEY ROAD NEAR SHILOH.

THAT'S THAT ONE HASN'T STARTED.

THAT ONE HASN'T STARTED YET, AND THEN MILLER ROAD, WEST OF SHILOH, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S THE REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, BUT THAT ONE IS ONCE AGAIN, IS JUST IT'S MORE OF A FUNDING ISSUE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE MILLER PARK IS JUST REPLACING MILLER PARK SIMILAR [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE TAKEN OUT TO OLD SPUR LINES THAT ARE NO LONGER USED AND REPLACING THAT WITH CONCRETE PAVEMENT, AND THEN THE JUPITER ONE WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. WE ACTUALLY MET WITH WE MET WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DG&O ON LAST WEEK. LAST WEDNESDAY.

LAST THURSDAY. I'M SORRY.

AND THEY ARE THEY ARE EXTREMELY THIS GENTLEMAN IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL, AND WE HAVE TENTATIVELY, IF THEY CAN GET ALL THE MATERIALS, WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SET A DATE FOR LABOR DAY. NOT LABOR DAY, MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND TO DO THE REPAIR OF THE TRACK, AND THAT'S THE WORST, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION WHERE THE TRACK HAS DROPPED.

THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE TRACK.

IT WON'T FIX THE PAVEMENT AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK LATER AND DO ALL THE PAVEMENT BIT OFF THE PAVEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TRACK TO GET THE APPROACH SPEEDS TO MEET THE DESIGN SPEED OF THE APPROACH, BUT WE THINK OVER IF THEY INDICATED AND WE TRIED TO SCHEDULE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND BECAUSE IF THEN IF IT DRAGS INTO MONDAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE, BUT THAT'S CONTINGENT ON THEM BEING ABLE, WORKING WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR TO GET ALL THE MATERIALS THEY CAN TO DO THAT PROJECT, AND SO THAT ONES, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE HAVING WE HAVE A CONSULTANT LOOKING AT ALL THE REST OF THE CROSSINGS IN THE CITY.

OUR GOAL IS TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND TO DEVELOP A FUNDING, I MEAN, A PRIORITY LIST AND FUNDING INFORMATION FOR ALL THOSE THINGS AND BE ABLE TO BRING THEM BACK TO AND WORK WITH THE TWO RAILROADS AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS THE ORDER THAT WE NEED TO WORK TO APPROVE THEM.

AND THEN WE COULD TRY TO START LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, A SCHEDULE FOR TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULING THOSE ON MULTIPLE YEARS AND MAYBE ON A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM THAT WE COULD FUND.

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THOSE WERE THE COST OF THOSE REPAIRS.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

AS YOU SEE, AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, WE'RE PROJECTING AS WE GET INTO THE OUT YEARS THAT THE NUMBER OF ARTERIAL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN FUTURE YEARS WILL NOT, WILL DECREASE, BUT THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WILL INCREASE, AND SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS WILL TEND TO INCREASE BECAUSE THE ARTERIAL ONES OBVIOUSLY ARE MUCH LARGER AND MUCH BIGGER, AND ONE ARTERIAL PROJECT WILL TAKE WOULD TAKE THE FUNDING THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TEN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

SO, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AS WHERE WE SEE THAT FUNDING IN THE PROJECT, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS GOING AS WE HEAD FOR INTO THE FUTURE YEARS.

WITH THAT, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LIST THAT I SUBMITTED TO YOU, LIKE, SAY, ON THAT LIST THAT I SUBMITTED.

IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THE ONES THAT I'D SAY, THE ONES I KNOW THAT I ASTERISKED, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE UNDERTAKEN ON OUR SCHEDULE FOR 2023.

AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING AS WE GET THOSE SCHEDULED OUT AND WE GET UPDATES, WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL.

COUNCILOR SMITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND STEVE.

GREAT JOB. WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS SINCE I CAME ON IN 2017 AND THE COUNCIL HAD ACTED RIGHT BEFORE I GOT HERE WITH WITH SCOTT AND RICH AND DAVID GIBBONS.

I KNOW WE'RE ALL BIG PROPONENTS OF GETTING THAT FUNDING GOING AND THEY GOT IT GOING THAT YEAR, SO I COULD TAKE CREDIT FOR IT MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE.

I CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH FOR THAT TIMING, AND ALSO YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PRETTY AMAZING THIS YEAR. WE'VE HAD SOME ADA ISSUES IN DISTRICT EIGHT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE KNOCKED OUT VERY QUICKLY AND EASILY.

SO, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS, I KNOW THAT A YEAR OR TWO AGO WE STARTED SHIFTING FROM A CONDITION INDEX TO PCI TO AN OCI.

YES. ARE WE SEEING ANY MAJOR SHIFTS IN THE SCORING THAT WOULD THROW OFF THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US AND IS OUR GOAL AS A COUNCIL THAT WE SET BASED ON THE PCI STILL REALISTIC WITH AN OCI? I BELIEVE IT IS.

WHAT THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PCI AND THE OCI IS THE OCI TAKES INTO ACCOUNT QUOTE UNQUOTE RIDEABILITY.

SO, A LOT OF TIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE A STREET THAT MAY HAVE EVERY EVERY SLAB CRACKED WHERE YOU CONSIDER THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE IT.

BUT IF THEY'RE NOT DISPLACED, IT DOESN'T RIDE PARTICULARLY BADLY.

SO, THE ONES THAT YOU MIGHT GO OUT THERE AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S GOT A REAL LOW RATING.

WELL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DISJOINTMENT OF THE SLABS.

THEN THE OCI TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

SO, I THINK IT TENDS TO BALANCE OUT BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IS SOME OF THE ONES WHERE THERE MAY NOT MAY HAVE BEEN A HIGHER RATED STREET AND NOT HAVE AS MANY PATCHES, BUT IF THE SEVERITY OF THE PATCHES OR THE SEVERITY OF THE FAILURES IS GREATER THAN IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE SEVERITY, IT REALLY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT KIND OF SEVERITY OF FAILURES IN ADDITION TO THE NUMBER OF FAILURES.

SO, I THINK FOR FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU MAY HAVE THAT ARE WORSE.

IT TENDS TO BALANCE OUT, AND WE'RE NOT WE DIDN'T SEE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE WHEN WE WENT FROM PCI TO OCI.

OKAY, AND YOU SAID YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT SIDEWALKS.

ARE YOU SCORING THEM IN A SIMILAR MANNER OR DO THEY ROLL INTO THE STREET SCORE OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE THE SYSTEM DOESN'T, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MODIFY BECAUSE THE SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE SIDEWALKS.

IT LOOKS AT THE STREET.

IT DOESN'T DOESN'T CONSIDER THE SIDEWALKS AS PART OF THE RATING.

SO, AND WE HAVE NEVER REALLY TECHNICALLY, QUOTE UNQUOTE, DEVELOPED A IN A OCI TYPE RATING FOR SIDEWALKS.

SO, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS AS AS THEY'RE INSPECTING JUST TO NOT SO MUCH DEVELOP A NUMBER RATING BUT TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHERE THEIR SEVERITY ISSUES WHETHER SIDEWALK ISSUES AND TRY TO FOCUS ON HEY, THIS STREET'S GOT A LOT OF SIDEWALK ISSUES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW WE'VE COME OUT WITH AN ACTUAL WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ATTRIBUTE THAT, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE NOTES.

THERE'S PLACES FOR NOTES.

WE'RE MAKING NOTES WHERE THERE'S SIDEWALK ISSUES THAT COULD PERHAPS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO EQUALLY FAILED STREETS, IF ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THE SIDEWALKS ARE WORSE AND MAYBE THAT MAKES THAT MORE OF A HIGHER PRIORITY TO REPLACE, IT'S KIND OF A THAT SITUATION WHERE WE'RE REALLY IT'S ALMOST LIKE A POOR, POOR, GOOD FARE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF SYSTEM. NOT SO MUCH A NUMERICAL NUMBER.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMEMBER AUBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I'LL ECHO COUNCILMEMBER SMITH ON HOW PLEASED I AM WITH HOW FAR WE'VE COME. IT'S SIX, SIX YEARS SINCE I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL AND THE STREET SYSTEM WAS VERY DIFFERENT BACK THEN.

SO, SEEING THE NUMBERS OF OF LANE MILES THAT HAVE BEEN REPAIRED, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD WHEN YOU START ADDING THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND IT'S SOMETHING LIKE

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20% AND I DON'T REALLY GET I.

WE GET OCCASIONAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT STREETS NOW, AND I TEND TO GET MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT STREET CONSTRUCTION THAN I DO ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE STREETS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO A LOT OF THIS STUFF, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

I SEE THAT CAROLYN DRIVE IS LISTED BUT WITHIN WITH A NON SPECIFIC DATE.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY KIND OF GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE OF A WATER DEPARTMENT.

THEY DID THE WATER DEPARTMENT PROJECT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

TALKING WITH OUR SURVEY GUYS, WE THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT MAY TO JUNE PROBABLY WOULD BE THE START DATE DEPENDING UPON WHEN THEY CAN.

YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S GOING TO DEPEND UPON THE TWO OR THREE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE IN FRONT OF IT WHEN THEY GET DONE, BUT WE'VE KIND OF TARGETED THAT AND ACCELERATED THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE'S BECAUSE WE HAVE STARTED ALL WE'VE STARTED ALL THE GRADE, THE GRADE SURVEYING AND WHATEVER.

SO, THE DESIGN SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN A MONTH OR SO, AND SO REALLY IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF THEN TRYING TO FIT THAT IN THE OTHER SCHEDULE, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A MAY, JUNE ISH THAT, THAT WINDOW.

OK. I WOULD APPRECIATE US, AS, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT ONE DONE AS THOSE FOLKS HAVE WAITED A LONG TIME AND I MIGHT HAVE TOLD THEM A FEW YEARS AGO THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GET DONE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE WATER PROJECT, ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE A REALLY NICE, BEAUTIFUL TWO FOOT WIDE STRIP OF CONCRETE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A VERY BAD STREET.

WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING IN THESE PROJECTS, TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND WE DON'T LIKE YEAH, WE GENERALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN THERE WITHIN A FEW MONTHS AFTER THEY'VE DONE THEIR WORK, AND OF COURSE SOME OF THEM THEN WE'LL DO CONTRACT WORK, WE WILL JOINTLY DO BOTH OF THEM, BUT WE, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO BECAUSE GENERALLY WHEN WE'LL, WE WILL LET THEM PUT UNREINFORCED CONCRETE IN THERE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GOING TO PULL IT OUT IN A FEW MONTHS AND IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER TO PROBABLY PUT THAT IN AND TO PUT ASPHALT, BUT YEAH, SOMETIMES THERE IS A DRAG AND WE TRY, WE TRY TO LIMIT THAT TO 2 TO 3 MONTHS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, IT'S BEEN A LOT, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST THE WAY THEIR SCHEDULE HITS SOMETIMES WE DO GET THOSE PROJECTS THAT TAKE MORE THAN A FEW MONTHS TO GET AROUND TO.

I MEAN, THIS IS THE WELL THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF THEIR PROJECTS DONE.

SO, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE DO WE DO TRY TO COORDINATE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE SCHEDULE THOSE.

I GET IT. I APPRECIATE IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF STREETS. MOST OF THE STREETS OVER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GET FIXED WHEN THEY DID THE PRESSURE PLANE PROJECT A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO, IT WAS THE ONE STREET THAT WASN'T DONE, AND THEY I THINK THEY KIND OF FELT A LITTLE BIT LEFT OUT, RIGHTFULLY SO, AND SO IT'S A MATTER OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE LOVE TO. SO, WE HAD WE HAVE MADE THAT A PRIORITY TO TRY TO GET THAT TRY TO GET THAT STARTED BY THE FIRST OF THE SUMMER.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

THE GOOD WORK FOR THE CITY REALLY CANNOT BE THANKFUL ENOUGH.

WE'VE COME A REALLY A VERY, VERY LONG WAY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I GO TO CONFERENCES AND I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH THE ENVY IS LIKE WHEN I TELL SOMEONE WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S YOUR BUDGET? AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS LIKE 32 MILLION, SAYS, NO, NOT YOUR BOND PROGRAM MONEY.

WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR STREET DEPARTMENT? NO THAT IS A STREET DEPARTMENT. IT'S LIKE 32 MILLION, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE SHOCKED BECAUSE GENERALLY THEIRS IS IN THE FEW MILLION.

YOU KNOW, THIS THE LADY THAT I WAS TALKING TO, SHE JUST WENT TO WORK FOR RICHARDSON.

SHE WAS LIKE SHE SAID SHE WAS TELLING HER COLLEAGUES, TELL THEM HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GOT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. I THINK.

WHAT? A LOT. YEAH, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE.

I SAY WITH US HAVING THAT CONCRETE PAVING MACHINE, WE'RE MORE LIKE A CONTRACTOR.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CITY THAT DOES THAT IN HOUSE.

NO, IT'S BEEN GREAT, AND WHEN YOU ADD IN ALL THE OTHER MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO THE STREETS FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF YOUR BUDGET.

IT'S REALLY IT'S A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING, AND REALLY KUDOS TO YOU AND TO STAFF IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT, BUT STAFF ALL ACROSS THE CITY, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN GREAT.

I APPRECIATE IT, AND I THINK WE'RE IN MARCH.

THIS MAY BE THE LAST ONE OF THESE UPDATES THAT I GET.

SO, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU STEVE.

COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS SAID, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO BE THE MOST POPULAR GUY IN THE ENTIRE CITY, JUST BY THE VERY NATURE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO, OKAY, WITH ME, I DIDN'T HEAR OR SEE ANYTHING AS IT RELATED TO THE ROSEHILL ROAD AROUND THE COUNTRY CLUB AND THEN BACK OUT TO THE LYONS.

IS THAT STREETS OR THAT ENGINEERING? THAT'S VERY THAT'S THAT VERY MAJOR, MASSIVE PROJECT.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY.

THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION? THE BOB TOWN [INAUDIBLE] WELL, IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO BOB TOWN.

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BUT NOT THE ONE FOR BOB TOWN, THE ONE THAT REALLY COMES UP ROSEHILL RUNS ACROSS ROWLETT ROAD, THEN RUNS BACK INTO COUNTRY CLUB AND THEN RUNS OUT TO ROAN ROAD.

I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, I BELIEVE.

YEAH, THAT IS AN ENGINEERING PROJECT.

OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE STREETS OR AN ENGINEER.

OKAY, OKAY, ON THE MAJOR STREETS, WE'RE ONLY DOING SLAB WORK.

WE'RE NOT DOING RECONSTRUCTION OF ARTERIALS.

WE ONLY RECONSTRUCT RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

THAT LOOK LIKE AN INFRASTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMS. I SAY KUDOS TO YOU FOR TWO THINGS.

ONE, AND I TRY TO ERASE FROM MY MEMORY DISCUSSIONS IN THE SPARE ROOM ABOUT FUNDING STREETS. I TRY TO ERASE TRY TO ERASE THOSE DISCUSSION.

THE MAYOR AND I, WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING SOME OF THOSE WHO WE TRY TO YOU KNOW, WE COME A LONG WAYS. THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.

I WANT TO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THE PARTICULARLY ON THE WORK, BUT ON THE COMMUNICATION PIECE THAT HAS BEEN HUGE.

THE STREETS TALK, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, PEOPLE GETTING THEM BECAUSE I DON'T GET NEARLY AS MANY CALLS THAT I USED TO GET ABOUT STREETS.

YOU KNOW, I'M ABLE NOT TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE STREETS TALKS AND LIKE AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR NOTIFICATIONS IF YOU'RE DOING PROJECTS IN THE DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALWAYS SITTING OUT, YOUR TEAMS ALWAYS SENDING OUT THE EMAIL.

SO THE COMMUNICATION PIECE HAS BEEN HUGE.

THIRDLY, I THINK AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT, YOU'VE CHANGED THE CULTURE, THE ATTITUDE AS IT RELATES TO OVERLAYS AS PART OF OVERLAYS.

THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, I HAD SUPER RESISTANCE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU'VE USED THAT, I THINK, IN A SMART WAY, AND I'VE GOTTEN PROBABLY 99% POSITIVE FEEDBACK WHERE YOU WE HAVE USED ASPHALT OVERLAYS BUT IN GOING IN AND YOU AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY GOOD AT EXPLAINING TO ME WHY YOU MADE THAT CHOICE MOVING FORWARD, WHAT DO YOU WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT GOING AND HOW WOULD THAT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, IN WHAT CASES YOU DECIDE TO USE AN OVERLAY AS OPPOSED TO TEARING UP A STREET AND REDOING CONCRETE.

CAN YOU TALK A BIT ABOUT WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT IN THE BIG PICTURE, THE SCHEME OF THINGS? WHEN WE CAME BACK A FEW YEARS AGO, WHEN WE REINSTITUTED THE OVERLAY PROGRAM, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS 16, 17.

WE HAD NOT DONE OVERLAYS SINCE I HAD BEEN HERE SINCE 99 WHEN I HAD GOTTEN HERE.

PART OF THE REASON THERE WAS WE'VE JUST GOT THIS LARGE WINDOW WHERE WE'RE REBUILDING THE STREETS GENERALLY FROM 0 TO 20, AND WE'RE REPLACING AND WE'RE REPAIRING THE STREETS 70 AND ABOVE, BUT ONCE STREETS GOT PAST THIS DROP OFF POINT, THERE WAS JUST THERE WASN'T A TECHNIQUE IN PLACE. AND SO THE POINT OF THE OVERLAY IS TO TRY TO GET THOSE ONES IN THE MIDDLE THAT HAVE DECENT BASE AND ARE NOT JUST DON'T HAVE THAT ARE NOT WAVY, YOU KNOW, ROLLER COASTER TYPE STREETS AND GO IN THERE AND DO THE OVERLAY WHERE IT'S JUST PROBLEMS WITH SURFACES AND TO TRY TO EXTEND THE LIFE SO THAT AS WE'RE KNOCKING OUT THESE ONES IN THE ZEROS AND THE TWENTIES, THAT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THEN THOSE STREETS AS THEY DETERIORATE, THEY'LL BE IN LINE TO BE REPLACED, AND WE THINK WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE A NEED FOR OVERLAYS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO OVERLAY STREETS AS THOSE ONES, YOU KNOW, GET PAST THE POINT OF REPAIR, BUT THEY'RE NOT BAD ENOUGH TO REPLACE.

THERE'S THAT LITTLE MIDDLE, THAT MIDDLE AREA, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE TENDING TO OVERLAY, AND SO THAT'S THE PROCESS AND THAT'S THE PLAN.

SO, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PLACE FOR OVERLAYS IN OUR PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.

RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT IN THAT OPTION, BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS ARE NO LONGER FEELING THAT THEY'RE BEING IGNORED.

YOU KNOW, YOU TELL THEM WHAT? NO, YOU CAN'T GET A COMPLETELY NEW STREET, BUT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.

WE'RE WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS, AND SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING WITH THAT OPTION AND FOR DOING THAT, BECAUSE I TELL YOU, IT'S BEEN HUGE, AND ALSO SOME FOLKS IN ENGINEERING, IT HELPS WITH THE DRAINAGE ISSUE AND MANY STREETS I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT.

SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THAT OPTION FOR REINSTITUTING THAT, AND IT REALLY HAS HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT.

I KNOW IT HAS IN MY DISTRICT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALSO, WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL ACCELERATING THE PURCHASE OF THAT NEW PAVER. WHEN OUR ONE WENT DOWN, WE WERE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO PICK ONE UP THAT THEY HAD ON THE LOT TO LET US TO PICK IT UP, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DELAY IN OUR PROGRAM AND WE'LL GET BACK ON ON TARGET AND HIT OUR HIT OUR TARGET NUMBERS FOR THIS YEAR AS WELL. VERY GOOD.

LOOKS LIKE WE'VE CLEARED THE QUEUE.

THANK YOU. STEVE AND I WILL ADDRESS MY COMMENTS TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO STARTED

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SERVING IN THE LATE 2020S FROM THOSE OF US WHO SERVED THROUGH THE TEENS AND IN THE EARLY 2020S. YOU'RE WELCOME, AND THAT INCLUDES ME.

YES. YES, IT DOES.

THANK YOU, STEVE. YOU'RE WELCOME.

YES. THOSE PEOPLE THAT START SERVING AROUND 2027, 2028, MAN, THEY'VE GOT IT MADE.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT 2013 LOOKED LIKE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING.

THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM FIVE ANNOUNCED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[5. Announce Future Agenda Items]

COUNCILMEMBER SMITH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER DISCOUNTED FOOD SERVICE HEALTH PERMIT RENEWALS BASED ON HEALTH INSPECTION SCORE HISTORY, AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT BY MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK.

VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OBVIOUSLY, THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE ONE THAT COMES UP.

YOU ALL KNOW THE PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT, AND WITH THAT, AT 9:08, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.