[Plan Commission Pre Meeting] [00:00:11] A LOCATION MAP GIVING YOU AN IDEA AS TO WHERE THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CITY. HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP WITH THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE ZONED MULTIFAMILY INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY OFFICE TO THE EAST, COMMUNITY OFFICE IN THE SOUTH AND WEST. ALL THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL. JUST LIKE THAT SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS BUSINESS CENTERS. BUSINESS CENTERS ARE CLUSTERS OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COLLECTIVELY EMPLOY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. THIS PICTURE IS WAS TAKEN FROM INTERNATIONAL ROAD AND IT'S AN IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THESE PICTURES ARE IMAGES OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE ONE ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. THAT'S THE PROPERTY. PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET. THE PICTURES ON THE LOWER PORTION. THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. SO THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE FRONT, TWO WAREHOUSES IN THE BACK. THE PROPERTY IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE OCCUPIED BY TEXAS TREE SURGEONS. THIS IS A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES TREE CARE SERVICES THAT INCLUDES TREE TRIMMING, TREE HEALTH MANAGEMENT AND OCCASIONALLY TREE REMOVAL. THE RESULTING BYPRODUCT OF THIS SERVICES IS WOOD THAT IS EITHER CHIPPED INTO MULCH OR SOLD AS FIREWOOD. THEY STORE THE MULCH AND THE FIREWOOD. THEY PLACE THEM IN PILES IN THE BACK. SO THE APPLICANT TURNED COMPOST. THEY'RE PROPOSING, AGAIN, TO LEASE A PORTION IN THE BACK AND PRODUCE COMPOST BY ADDING ORGANIC MATTER TO THE EXISTING OUTDOOR MULCH PILES PRODUCED BY TEXAS TREE SURGEONS. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. THE RECTANGLE THERE KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA. THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROPOSED LEASING AREA AND THE LAYOUT OF THE WIND. THOSE ARE THE PILES. ALL STORAGE AND PROCESS OF THE COMPOST WILL BE DONE OUTSIDE. THERE WILL BE NO ONSITE CELLS AND THEY ARE PLANNING TO HIRE BETWEEN TWO AND THREE EMPLOYEES TO MANAGE THE COMPOSTING OPERATIONS. THEY WILL OPERATE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M.. THIS IS ALL OF THE MATERIAL THAT THEY WILL USE TO MAKE THE COMPOST MULCH. OF COURSE, VEGETABLES AND FRUIT SCRAPS, COFFEE AND TEA GROUNDS, DRIED PASTA AND GRAINS, EGGSHELLS, SHREDDED PAPER LEAVES, BEANS, NUTS AND SEEDS. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL NOT USE MEAT OR DAIRY PRODUCTS. THE GDC REQUIRES ALL OTHER STORAGE TO BE SCREENED WITH SOME KIND OF FENCE THAT IS AT LEAST SIX FEET IN HEIGHT. THE ACCEPTABLE METHODS INCLUDE A COATED CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH SLATS OR A WOOD FENCE, OR ANY OTHER METHOD THAT WILL PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SCREENING. WELL, THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY FENCED IN. THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX FOOT TALL, SOLID METAL FENCE, AND THAT ARROW POINTS YOU TO THAT, TO THE EXISTING FENCE. ALSO, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THE WIND ROSE WILL NOT EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT. A PARKING DEVIATION UNDER THIS APPLICATION REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS TRIGGERED BY AND ONLY APPLY TO THE PROPOSED COMPOSTING FACILITY, NOT EXISTING FACILITY. TEXAS TREE SURGEONS. THEY ALREADY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THE GDC REQUIRES 30 PARKING SPACES FOR THE PROPOSED COMPOSTING FACILITY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A FULL WAIVER OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE COMPOSTING FACILITY. THE APPLICANT ASSERTS THAT THE COMPOSTING OPERATION WILL ONLY ADD 2 TO 2 OR THREE ONSITE EMPLOYEES TO THE CURRENT TWO OR THREE ONSITE EMPLOYEES, [00:05:03] TYPICALLY WORKING FOR TEXAS TREE SURGEONS AND WITH NO ONSITE COMPOST CELLS, ANY INCREASE IN VEHICLE TRAFFIC WILL BE NEGLIGIBLE AND WILL BE ABLE TO IS GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE CURRENT SITE LAYOUT. THIS IS THE PARKING, THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS, THOSE TWO RECTANGLES THAT YOU SEE IN THE SIDE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SURE-P FOR TEN YEARS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ISSUE FOR TEN YEARS AND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. AGE BEFORE BEAUTY LIKE. COME ON FIRST. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, SIR. IT'S GOING I'VE GOT THREE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. FIRST, WAS THIS SITE PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED AS. CURRENTLY IS. WELL, IT WAS DEVELOPED AS. CONTRACTOR, OFFICE AND STORAGE YARD. THE CURRENT TENANT TAKES US THREE SERGEANTS. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. IT WAS DEVELOPED AS AS A CONTRACTORS OFFICE AND STORAGE, AND IT HAS REMAINED UNDER THAT LAND USE ALL THIS TIME. SO IS THIS AN SAP THAT'S EXPIRED AND WE'RE RENEWING IT OR THIS IS BRAND? NO. THIS IS A NEW BUSINESS COMING IN TO THE SITE. SO WE HAVE A BUSINESS ALREADY THERE. THEY WILL REMAIN THERE. THEY ARE CONSIDERED CONTRACTORS, OFFICE AND STORAGE YARD. DOES THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION? THIS APPLICANT IS COMING IN AND THEY WILL LEASED PART OF THE BACK YARD AND OPERATE THE COMPOSTING FACILITY FROM THERE. THANK YOU. REGARDING THE SAP, THEY'VE ONLY REQUESTED TEN, TEN YEARS. YES, SIR. INSIGHT OR REASON WHY SUCH A SHORT TIME FRAME? NOT REALLY. I THINK I WAS. IT WILL GIVE THEM I GUESS IT'S ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN THEIR OPERATION AND SEE HOW THINGS GO AT THIS LOCATION. THE LAST QUESTION REGARDING THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION OF THE MINIMUM NEGATIVE IMPACTS AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAD SOME HESITANCE IS HESITANT ABOUT THIS SORT OF IDEA. IT SEEMS LIKE THESE WIND WILL BE FAR ENOUGH AWAY THAT ANY SMELL OF, YOU KNOW, DECOMPOSING VEGETABLES OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT WON'T BE TOO TOO TERRIBLE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH NUISANCES AND THAT SORT OF REGARD IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS, THAT SORT OF THING? YES, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT BECAUSE OF THE MATERIAL THAT THEY'RE USING IS ALL BASED ON VEGETABLES AND FRUITS AND THE THE PROCESS ITSELF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EMPLOY THAT WILL MINIMIZE, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THAT WILL MINIMIZE THE THE MOTION OF ANY ODOR DUE TO THIS PROCESS. YOU DO MENTION THE YEAH. THE THE PERSON THAT IS IN OPPOSITION AND BELIEVE THAT IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE NORTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. ARE THESE WINDOWS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE ADDING WINDOWS? YES. THE WINDOWS. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. THEY THOSE THERE WERE PLACED THERE BY THE EXISTING TENANT TREE SURGEONS. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY PLACE THEIR THEIR MULCH THAT THEY THEY PRODUCE THESE WINDOWS OPEN UP OR ARE THEY FIXED? WHAT? WHAT'S THE WIND GROUP? THEY'RE PILES. YES, THEY'RE PILES IN A LINEAR, I GUESS, THERE. THERE'S A LINE OF PILES, I GUESS. AND THEN I HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. A TEN YEAR. WILL THERE BE AN AUTOMATIC EXTENSION OR WILL THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET AN EXTENSION OF THAT TEN YEARS? UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND APPLY FOR AN EXTENSION. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. [00:10:05] AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE WAIVER THEY'RE ASKING AND PARKING IS ONLY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIRED BY. THE NEW YEARS. CORRECT. THEY'RE STILL REQUIRED TO HAVE ALL THE PARKING FOR THE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING. CORRECT. OKAY. AND I DID TALK TO MY RESIDENT EXPERT ABOUT COMPOSTING MY WIFE. AND IF IT'S DONE PROPERLY, IT CREATES KIND OF A HARD SHELL ON THE OUTSIDE AND EVERYTHING'S COOKED INSIDE. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE A TON OF ODOR. AND PLUS, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT USING MEATS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SHOULD BRING IT DOWN. ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? OH, THERE WE GO. TWO THINGS ON THE PARKING. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER BECAUSE THE THOUGHT IS THAT THE EMPLOYEE ATTENDANCE WOULD NOT INCREASE VERY MUCH. WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE GDC AND THE THE REASON FOR THE PARKING SHOULD BE RELATED TO THE LAND USAGE. SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF BUSINESS GOES WELL AND EMPLOYEES INCREASE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PARKING. I FEEL LIKE WE WON'T, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE THAT TO JUST BE ADDRESSED OR CONFIRMED OR UNDERSTAND HOW THAT OPERATES. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LAND USAGE VERSUS THE PARKING AS IT RELATES TO THE GDC WITH ANY DEVIATION. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING. AND THEN SUP WISE BETWEEN THE 10 TO 15 YEARS SEEMS TO BE A STANDARD. SO I'M NOT AS CONCERNED WITH THE TIME FRAME AND SORT OF ADDRESSING KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT TIME FRAME ON THE TEN YEARS. BUT I JUST I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARKING COMPONENT OF IT. SO ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PARKING OR HOW COULD THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY IN LINE WITH THE GDC. AND THIS MY HELP MAY WORK AS A KIND OF CONTROL MECHANISM HERE. REGARDING THE PARKING THERE SHOULD BE COULD BE COULD LIMIT THE AREA TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THE LISTEN AREA, OF COURSE, THAT CONSEQUENTLY WILL LIMIT HOW MANY HOW MANY PILES THEY COULD HAVE THERE. AND I THINK THEY ALSO REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN SPACE BETWEEN EACH PILE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE ARE SOME BUILT IN CONTROLS THERE. AND OF COURSE, WHATEVER OTHER CONDITION THIS COMMISSION DECIDES TO TO INCLUDE IN THERE IN THEIR MOTION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. IT'S A QUESTION BOTH FOR YOU, SIR, AND TO THE GENTLEMAN, THE CHAIRMAN. IS SIX FEET IN HAVING THE DISCUSSION WITH THE RESIDENT RESIDENT EXPERT IS SIX FEET TALL, SHORT. IS THAT EXCESSIVE? YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO, YEAH, I DO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMPOSTING. I'M AN ORGANIC GARDENER, AND I HAVE BEEN TO, UM. NOT MESQUITE. YEAH. MESQUITE HAS AN INCREDIBLE COMPOSTING SITE. I GO DOWN THERE AND PICK UP TRUCKLOADS OF OF IT FOR MY YARD, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T SMELL BAD IF IT'S RUN RIGHT. AND SIX FEET IS A PRETTY TALL PILE. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I DOUBT THAT IT WOULD GO OVER THAT UNLESS THEY REALLY HAVE SOME. BIG EQUIPMENT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS JUST TO GET A NEW BUSINESS STARTED. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY'RE KIND OF STARTING WITH THE TREE SERVICE. WELL, THE TREE SERVICE IS ALREADY THERE. THIS PERSON WILL BE YOU KNOW, THIS NEW COMPANY IS NEW. I'M SURE IF THEY'RE NEW TO GARLAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. AND I THINK TO YOUR COMMENT, AND I GUESS ADDRESSING YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING PARKING, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE VEHICLES THAT WILL BE COMING IN TO PICK UP THE COMPOST, TO HAVE THEM DELIVERED, THERE WILL BE PICKUP TRUCKS. THEY'LL BE THE THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLE. AND THEY WILL GO TO THE BACK, GET THE COMPOST AND LEAVE. IT WON'T BE LARGE TRUCKS, NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DUMP TRUCKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST REGULAR PICKUP TRUCKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. THEY'VE GOT A WHAT KIND OF ABOUT EIGHT PARKING SPOTS OUT FRONT NOW. AND I ALSO SAW CARS PARKED OUT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER MIDDLE BUILDINGS AND THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD CIRCULATION PATTERN ON THE SIDE. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A BIG ISSUE. [00:15:02] ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU. THANKS. WELL, GOOD EVENING. EVENING. THIS IS THE 20 207. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO BUILD A RESTAURANT COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THRU. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE FOR THE LEASE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 0.335 ACRE. THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE LEASE AREA IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR. SURROUNDING USES ARE MAINLY COMMERCIAL USES AND THE SITE IS ZONED PD 9435, WHICH HAS A LIST OF SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PD. IT DOES NOT ALLOW A DRIVE THRU USE, SO THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THIS PD TO ADD THE DRIVE THRU BY AN SEP. FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE PROPOSED USE CONTRIBUTES AND IS SUPPORTIVE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NORTH WEST HIGHWAY AND THESE ARE EXISTING PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE REMOVED TO CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING. AND THEN TOP RIGHT IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THERE'S A BANK THERE. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE LEASE AREA. THIS IS THE OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN ZOOMED IN, WHICH SHOWS THE PROPOSED COFFEE SHOP AND IT WILL BE 664 SQUARE FEET AND THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. AND THERE'S ALSO AN ACCESS FROM TOWN GATE BOULEVARD. AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PARKING ANALYSIS TO SHOW THAT THEY WILL THE OVERALL SITE WILL COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE REMOVING SOME PARKING SPACES, THEY'LL STILL COMPLY. AND FOR THE LEASE AREA, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NINE PARKING SPACES. A PD 90 FOR 35 REQUIRES ONE FOR EVERY 75 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, AND THE SITE ACTUALLY SHOWS SEVEN PARKING SPACES AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY COMPLYING WITH THE GDC STANDARDS, WHICH REQUIRES ONE PER EVERY HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. AND THE PATRONS CAN USE THE PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL. THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE LEASE AREA, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS. IT'S THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS. THE CEP FOR 25 YEARS IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SEP TIME PERIOD GUIDE. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PD 94. 35. APPROVAL OF THE SEP AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE TO THIS NEW FACILITY, AND THAT'S FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. THE SITE CAN BE ACCESSED FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY ONLY. THERE'S ALSO FROM TOWN GATE BOULEVARD, BUT IT'S THROUGH THE OVERALL SHOPPING THAT GOES THROUGH THE OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER. SO THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC COULD SIGNIFICANTLY. IS THERE ANY WAY THE CITY COULD REQUIRE THIS? BUSINESS TO PUT DOWN SOME SPEED BUMPS TO MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE AREN'T DRIVING FOOLISHLY THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND MAYBE HIT SOMEBODY. THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THIS AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC. THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND SO THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE ANY TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS EITHER. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T OFFICE OVER THERE. [00:20:02] THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2211. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY MANY WAREHOUSE WITH RETAIL AND OFFICE USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 1601 EAST FERRIS ROAD, 6320 AND 6330 NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. AND THE ACREAGE IS 3.58 AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2017. THIS IS THE CITY WIDE LOCATION MAP. THE STORE REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT. AND THIS IS THE S.H. 190 CAMPBELL ROAD MIXED USE CENTER. AND THIS FRAMEWORK WAS APPROVED WITH, WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 2017 BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2017. AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT AREA LOCATED RIGHT HERE. AND THIS SUBJECT AREA REQUIRES A GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL FOR THIS PROPOSED SITE. THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. AS I STATED, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS NORTH GEORGIA BUSH TURNPIKE. AND THIS ENTIRE SITE IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 2017. FURTHER TO THE EAST IS A STRIKING RAIL ENTERTAINMENT CENTER. AND THEN THERE'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 1008 WHICH IS DEVELOPED WITH THIS SCHOOL. PD ZERO 123 IS DEVELOPED WITH A URGENT CARE AND THEN ALSO A FAMILY DENTIST AND THE CROSS THE HIGHWAY. THERE IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 1543 WHICH IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY. EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE NEW FIRE STATION IS GOING ON THAT? YES, THE NEW FIRE STATION WILL BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA. THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SITE RECOMMENDS BUSINESS. AND SO FOR BUSINESS CENTERS IT PROVIDES LIKE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND THEN ALSO IN PROVIDES A LARGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA. THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THIS IS THE URGENT CARE AND FAMILY DENTISTS. THIS IS THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS THE STRIKE IN REAL. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. THEY ARE PROPOSING FOR THE SITE TWO BUILDINGS. THE FIRST BUILDING WOULD CONSIST OF RETAIL USE, WHICH FACES THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. AND THEN THERE IS SELF STORAGE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE TAN COLOR, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A LIVING QUARTERS ON SITE TO INCREASE THE SECURITY. AND THEN IN THE REAR ALONG FERRIS ROAD, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING OFFICE USE. IN ADDITION, THESE SELF STORES, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING AT LEAST 1000 STORAGE UNITS ON THE SITE. AND THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2017 ALONG FROM THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITIES, IT REQUIRES TO HAVE A EIGHT FOOT TALL PERIMETER FENCING ALONG THE PROPERTY. AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THE PERIMETER FENCING. OTHER THAN THAT, THE APPLICANT IS MEETING ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS AS PER THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THIS IS FOR THE SELF-STORAGE AND THE RETAIL. [00:25:11] AND THEN THIS IS BUILDING B, THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE OFFICE USE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ALONG FERRIS ROAD. IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRING THAT THEY USE THESE EXISTING WALLS AS THEIR SCREENING DEVICE, AS PER THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION I'M SORRY, SPECIAL STANDARDS SECTION. THE GDC REQUIRES THAT THEY CAN BE USED AS A SCREENING WALL ALONG AS IF I'M SORRY, AS LONG AS THEY ARE A SOLID WALL AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROVIDING PROVIDING SOLID WALLS, THEY ARE PROVIDING WINDOWS AND ALSO CANOPIES TO SCREEN FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND THESE ARE THE 3D RENDERINGS OF THE SITE. THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF THE DEVIATIONS THAT I STATED EARLIER. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR 40 YEARS WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE ISSUE TIME PERIOD GUIDE. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST BE MAILED OUT 12 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES. AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. 26 INCH FIRE LANE IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THOROUGHFARE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED, IT LOOKS LIKE. SO THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN. THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK, EXCLUDING THE LOOP. AND THEN THE LANE MARKED FIRE. LANE IS THE ONLY IN AND OUT. RIGHT. THERE IS A ENTRANCE IN THE REAR OF A FERRIS ROAD. OKAY. AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED IT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE REQUIREMENT CAME IN BEFORE THIS NEW STYLE OF SELF STORAGE APPEARED, THE SELF ENCLOSED INSIDE ACCESS BECAUSE EVERYTHING USED TO BE BY RECALL ORANGE OVERHEAD DOORS. AND SO THE IDEA OF THE WALL WAS FOR THAT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. TOS THIS IS ALL INTERNAL, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. THANK YOU. THIS NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE 2212 AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS 2.58 ACRES AND THE ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZERO 211 AND ZERO 557 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES. SINCE THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND IT DOES BORDER THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. AND HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR AND IT IS ZONED TO HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING ZERO TWO DASH 11 AND ZERO FIVE DASH 57. AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE A ZONE 84 DASH 68 WITH RESIDENTIAL USES. AND THEN NORTH OF THIS TAIL IS ZONED PD 9715 AND THERE IS A BANK THERE AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS ZONED PD ZERO TWO DASH 11 AND THERE'S A SUBSTATION, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS ALL COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND THERE IS A HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THIS TALE, HERE IS PD 14, DASH ZERO FIVE, AND THERE IS A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE IN CITY OF RICHARDSON. THE FUTURE LANDS MAP. THE ENVISION GALAN PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. [00:30:02] SO IT'S JUST PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS FROM NORTH JUPITER ROAD. AND THEN AT THE TOP RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S THE RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE THRU. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WHICH SHOWS TWO BUILDINGS BUILDING ONE. IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE STORY AND FOUR, IT WILL BE 4437 SQUARE FEET AND BUILDING TWO WILL BE THREE STORY BUILDING AND THE FLOOR AREA WILL BE 36,250 SQUARE FEET. AND THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM JUPITER ROAD AND THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER THE GDC AND THEY'LL BE PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 796 STORAGE UNITS. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS PER THE GDC, BUT THE SELF STORAGE FACILITIES PER FOR THE SPECIAL STANDARDS REQUIRES A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT PERIMETER SCREENING AND FENCING WITH AUTOMATIC GATES AND THIS LENGTH. SORRY. THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS A MASONRY WALL, WHICH IS THE RED LINE TO THE NORTH, AND THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THEN TO THE EAST WHERE THE SUBSTATION IS. THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING MASONRY WALL. AND THIS BROWN LINE THAT YOU SEE ALONG THE SOUTH AND THE WEST OF THE PERIMETER OF BUILDING TWO, THEY'LL BE PROPOSING AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE AND THEY WILL NOT BE PROVIDING ANY FENCING ALONG BUILDING ONE THE PERIMETER OF BUILDING ONE. AND SO THAT IS A DEVIATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. OR THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING ONE, AND IT COMPLIES WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS. FOR A BUILDING TO. AND THE APPLE CAN REQUEST THE SAP FOR THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY TO BE VALID FOR 40 YEARS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SAP TIME PERIOD GUIDE. HERE'S THE DEVIATION TABLE AND THE ONLY DEVIATION IS FOR THE PERIMETER SCREENING FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITIES. AND THE GDC REQUIRES A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT TALL PERIMETER SCREENING WITH AUTOMATIC GATES, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY SCREENING ALONG THE PERIMETER OF BUILDING ONE. THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE SCREENED AND THE THE DRIVE IN FRONT OF THE PARKING TO THE NORTH OF BUILDING ONE IS A SHARED ACCESS DRIVE TO BE OPEN ACCESS AND BUILDING ONE CONTAINS THE OFFICE WHICH REQUIRES GATED ACCESS FOR NEW CLIENTS. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PD 0 TO 11 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND PD ZERO FIVE DASH 57 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES. APPROVAL OF THE SEP AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN. AND WE MAILED OUT 108 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND RECEIVED ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST, SIX WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF SEVEN RESPONSES. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE. EXCUSE ME. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO LIGHTING. ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE EXTERIOR LIGHTS ON THIS FACILITY? YES, THEY DID SUBMIT A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN AND THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE LIGHTING STANDARDS PER THE GDC. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SHINING INTO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE TO THE NORTH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHTY. OKAY. THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM FOR BRIEFING. SO UNTIL 7:00 AND OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION, WE ARE IN RECESS. THANK YOU. [Call to Order] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE APRIL 25TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. [00:35:03] YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. WHETHER YOU JOIN US OR NOT. IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL. TONIGHT'S PRAYER PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING, PLEASE, BY YOUR HEADS. GOD. AS ALWAYS, THIS COMMUNITY COMES TO YOU IN A SPIRIT OF THANKSGIVING. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR MERCY, FULLNESS, YOUR WISDOM, AND THE RELATIVE PEACE IN WHICH WE LIVE OUR LIVES. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW YOUR MERCY. THOSE THAT ARE NOT KNOW YOUR WISDOM. AND THOSE THAT ARE UNABLE TO LIVE IN THE PEACE THAT WE NOW KNOW. WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN THE CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS HOMES, AS WELL AS THOSE AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE SEEKING YOUR PEACE. AND WE ASK FOR THE STRENGTH TO SHOW THEM YOUR MERCY AND WISDOM. LASTLY, WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE HEALING OR DEALING WITH ANY HEALTH PROBLEMS. THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT ARE CARING FOR THE SICK AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THOSE THAT PUT OTHERS BEFORE THEMSELVES ON A DAILY BASIS. WE PRAY FOR THE MORAL AND ETHICAL WELL-BEING OF OUR LEADERS, OUR CITIZENS, AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. IN YOUR WISDOM, CONTINUE TO WALK WITH EACH OF US IN YOUR OWN WAY. AMEN. NOW, PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH US AS WE RECITE THE PRAYER FOR RELIGIOUS. LIKE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND IT'S THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH THEY WON MONEY UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. AND I SEE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON A CASE TONIGHT, WE'VE GOT LITTLE KIOSKS OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP AND IT SHOULD APPEAR IN MY BOARD HERE AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR NAME. NOW, APPLICANTS HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. WE ALLOW OTHER SPEAKERS 3 MINUTES. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW YOU MORE TIME. AND ANYBODY COMES UP TO SPEAK, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MICROPHONE, WE NEED THAT FOR OUR RECORDS. [Consent Agenda] ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WE'LL BE VOTING TAKING ONE VOTE TO APPROVE THEM ALL. I WILL READ THEM OUT. IF ANY COMMISSIONER OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW AFTER I READ THEM OUT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM ONE AYE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR APRIL 11, 2022. MEETING ITEM TO A PLAT 20 2085 WHEELS CENTER SIXTH PLAT ITEM TO BE PLAT 20 2-09 WALNUT STREET SUBDIVISION REPLANT AN ITEM TO C PLAT 22 DASH TEN BOX FIRST STREET EDITION FINAL PLAT. ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? SEE? NONE, CAROL. ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARRISH TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. AND TRY AGAIN. HERE YOU GO. OK THEIR PASSES SIX SIX, TWO ONE WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ALREADY WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS ABSTAINING. ALL RIGHT. ON TO ZONING CASES, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FIRST ONE'S A THREE PARTER. [Items 3A & 3B] IT'S GOT A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PROVISION. NO, ACTUALLY, IT'S ONLY TWO PARTER. SPECIAL, SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND A DETAILED PLAN. ITEM THREE A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TERN COMPOST LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR BULK MATERIAL STORAGE AND SALES, RETAIL OR WHOLESALE ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 196 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL. ITEM THREE B CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TERN COMPOST LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR BULK MATERIAL STORAGE AND SALES ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL. THIS PROPERTY, SAME ONE 196 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL BOULEVARD IS THE APPLICANT HERE. COME ON DOWN. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. [00:40:01] MY NAME IS PETER KAVANAGH. MY ADDRESS IS 1620 HANLY DRIVE IN DALLAS AND I APOLOGIZE. I FORGOT TO SIGN IN. AND LAUREN CLARK, OUR OWNER OF THIS BUSINESS, WILL AND WE WILL BOTH DO THAT WHEN WE LEAVE, SO YOU'LL HAVE A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES. TURN COMPOST IS HERE TO ASK FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR THE EXACT TERMS BULK MATERIAL SALES AND STORAGE. AT 196 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL STREET. WE WERE HERE AT THE BRIEFING AND MR. DE LA VEGA DID, I THINK, A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT IT IS WE DO, WHERE WE'RE DOING IT, AND HOW WE'RE INTERACTING WITH OUR OUR LANDLORD, SO TO SPEAK. AND I THINK SOMEONE USED THE TERM IN THE BRIEFING IS, ARE WE LEASING THIS PROPERTY? THE ANSWER IS YES. THE WE'RE REALLY MORE, THOUGH, OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS TREE SURGEONS. THEY HAVE A BUSINESS EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH, ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE RECENTLY HAD A STORM AND SOME OF OUR TREES BLEW DOWN. THEY ALL COME OUT AND REMOVE THE THE REFUSE. BUT ALSO, IN FACT, IN MY SITUATION, THEY CAME AND HELPED ME KEEP A TREE GOING. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE BASICALLY TREE EXPERTS TO HELP YOU TREES GO. BUT BUT ALSO AT SOME CASES A TREE HAS TO BE REMOVED. AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE AT THIS PROPERTY WHERE THEY'VE BEEN FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW IS THEY TAKE THE WOOD BACK THERE AND THEY MULCH SOME OF IT UP. AND AND IT WAS DESCRIBED TO YOU IN THE BRIEFING AS WIND ROWS. AND THEY'RE BASICALLY ROWS OF KIND OF GROUND UP TREE STUFF, IF YOU WILL. AND THEY, AS A GOOD, RESPONSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL CITIZEN THERE, RECYCLE THAT. WELL, LAWRENCE COMPANY WILL BASICALLY BE BRINGING IN A PRODUCT THAT WILL HELP THAT STUFF TURN OR BECOME COMPOST FASTER. THEY JUST SIMPLY PUT THE STUFF ON AND SHE'S HERE AND WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. BUT THEY TURN IT OVER WITH WITH A LITTLE A LITTLE BOBCAT, FRONT END LOADER, CONSTANTLY TO MAKE THE COMPOSTING PROCESS GO FASTER. ONE CONCERN THAT CAME UP WISELY IN THE BRIEFING WAS WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY GET BIGGER? WILL THERE BE MORE EMPLOYEES? THIS SITE, FRANKLY, IS FAIRLY SMALL FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS. THE NUMBER TWO OR THREE EMPLOYEES THAT GO OUT THERE AND TURN THESE ROWS COULD PROBABLY DO TWICE AS MUCH VOLUME AS THAT THEY'LL EVER BE ABLE TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY USE A BIG PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. THEY'RE NOT THERE WITH A SHOVEL AND RAKE LIKE I WOULD DO IT IN MY BACK YARD. I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE REALLY GOT TO SAY. BUT LAUREN CLARK WITH TURN IS HERE. I'LL LET LET YOU VISIT WITH HER AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN THE NITTY GRITTY OF COMPOSTING. AND I THINK I'LL STOP HERE AND LET HER VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, I'LL CERTAINLY BE HERE AND SHE'LL DO THE SAME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CAVANAUGH. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS LAUREN MCBAIN CLARK. MY ADDRESS IS P.O. BOX 141224. DALLAS, TEXAS 75214. I'M THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF TURN COMPOST LLC, DBA TURN. MY BUSINESS IS PASSIONATE ABOUT REDUCING AND RECYCLING FOOD WASTE ACROSS DFW, AND THAT IS THE CORE OF OUR MISSION. FOOD WASTE ACCOUNTS FOR 40% OF WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR US WASTE STREAM. IT'S A MASSIVE PROBLEM FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR OUR LANDFILLS AND MANY RESPECTS. SO MY BUSINESS WAS BORN OUT OF THE IDEA THAT WE CAN RECYCLE THIS NOT ONLY TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE LANDFILLS, BUT ALSO TO CREATE A PRODUCT THAT BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT TURNED DOES GOES BACK TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, GETTING LOCAL COMMUNITY GARDENS, LOCAL FARMS. SO I'M ACTUALLY THE 15TH WOMAN IN THE UNITED STATES TO BE CERTIFIED AS A US COMPOSTING COUNCIL CERTIFIED COMPOST OPERATOR. SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, THIS ENVIRONMENT AND THIS BUSINESS. I'M ALSO CERTIFIED WITH TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE, SO I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPERATION AT TEXAS TREE SURGEONS. AGAIN, WE ARE A LESSEE. IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY COMPOST OPERATION. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT HERE? I SEE NONE. THERE MAY BE SOME LATER. DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS THE THIS ITEM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SEE NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. THAT'S APPLICATIONS BEING BOTH A AND B. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND THE PLAN. ANY DISCUSSION. [00:45:02] PLEASE VOTE. AND THERE WE GO. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS. ALL RIGHTY. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A THREE PARTER, OR IT IS AMENDED AMENDING A SPECIFIC YOUTH PROVISION AND A DETAILED PLAN [Items 3C - 3E] ITEM TO C CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TRIANGLE ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT P PD 9435 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL BECAUSE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN 1943 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. ITEM THREE D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TRIANGLE ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE THRU SAME ADDRESS. ITEM THREE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TRIANGLE ENGINEERING LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THRU ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 9435 AGAIN 1943 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING? LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANY. UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. TERRY KELANI. OR HENRY DAVIS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO SEE YOU. PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND PLANNING PLANNERS. I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO PUT ON THE SCREEN HERE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN IN SOMEONE HELP THEM OUT? YOU JUST TURN. TURN THIS ON OR WHAT? I'M NOT USED TO THIS FANCY STUFF. THEY'LL GET YOU GOING. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WORKING FASTER THAN OLD MR. MONTGOMERY. GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. I HOPE YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT. OKAY. AND YOU'LL SEE IF I JUST THAT THESE PRINTS ARE FROM MY PROPERTY. I'M THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER OF EBS, EBENEZER. AND THE SUBJECT SITES IS THAT COFFEE SHOP. AND I KNOW I'M LIMITED ON TIME. I'M HERE ALL FOR A PROJECT. I HOPE THAT THEY CAN FILL THE SHOPPING CENTER UP BACK THERE AND ALSO BRING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE AREA, ETC., ETC., ETC.. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, OF COURSE, I'M FORD. I HOPE THEY PUT FIVE LIQUOR STORES IN AND FIVE, WHATEVER. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER, SIR. ANYWAY, I SHOT THESE PICTURES. MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT PICTURE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. I WANTING THEM AND REQUESTING THEM TO PUT SOME SPEED BUMPS IN BECAUSE AS I MOVE THESE PICTURES ON. AND THAT'S THE MAIN DRAG GOING BACK TO THE KIDNEY DIALYSIS CENTER, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THEIR FACILITY. THEIR PROPERTY, NOT MY PROPERTY. THAT NEXT PRINT. IT CAME THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS WHEN THE SLOWEST TIME TO TRAFFIC IS GOING WEST TOWARDS 635. IT'S ALREADY BACKED UP. SO BINGO, PEOPLE CUT THROUGH BY THE MOTEL IN MY PLACE AND RACE THROUGH IN FRONT OF EBENEZER THERE AND RACE THROUGH IN FRONT OF CHIQUITA'S RESTAURANT. AND THERE YOU HAVE IT. A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND WHEN THEY'RE BACKED UP, THERE'S A THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRANCE NEAR TOWNGATE LIGHT RIGHT THERE. BUT THAT'S NEVER USED BECAUSE IT'S A REAL TIGHT CUT. SO EVEN TRACTOR TRAILERS CAN'T CUT THROUGH THERE OR ANYTHING. THIS IS A PRINTOUT OF WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO LOCATE THAT. BUT I TALKED TO PEOPLE OVER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY COULDN'T GIVE ME AN IDEA WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SET THAT BUILDING, THAT COFFEE SHOP. BUT THIS IS THE LOT NEXT DOOR TO ME, TO THE WEST. SO I DIDN'T GET ANY CLARIFICATION ON IT. THIS PICTURE HERE IS LOOKING WEST FROM MY PROPERTY TO THE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE WIDE ENTRANCE, AND THEY RACE THROUGH THERE IN FRONT OF CHIQUITA'S AND REQUESTING SPEED BUMPS PUT IN BECAUSE 95% OF MY CUSTOMERS NOW ARE ALL SENIOR CITIZENS AND VIETNAM VETS. AND I'M OLD TO. THIS LAST PICTURE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS COMING OFF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, COMING INTO MY PROPERTY ON THE LEFT. [00:50:03] THOSE CARS THAT'S ON EBENEZER PROPERTY COMING IN, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY REALLY KICK IT IN A SAME TOKEN. LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE THERE, NOT TOO LONG AGO, A CAR RACED UP, JUST BARELY TOUCHED. THAT UTILITY POLE IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, TORE UP THE CURBING AND LANDED RIGHT NEAR LIKE 50 FEET RIGHT NEAR THEIR POLE SIGN OUT FRONT. I SAID, OH, MY GOSH. SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MOSTLY MY CONCERN. NOW, I ALSO HAVE A RIA WITH THESE FOLKS THAT JUST BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY. THE SHOPPING CENTER WAS OWNED BY ANOTHER FELLA AND HE SOLD OUT IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE. AND THESE ARE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS BEHIND ME. I HAD SPOKEN WITH THEM. THEY'RE VERY, VERY NICE. AND I'M ALL VERY PRO BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, I HOPE THE VERY, VERY BEST FOR THEM AND AND HOPE THEY FILL EVERYTHING UP AND EVERYBODY MAKES MONEY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. BUT THERE'S BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY. ON THAT PRINT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT WHERE THAT LEXUS IS PARKED AND WHERE THAT LITTLE POLE IS RIGHT THERE. PEOPLE FLY THROUGH THERE AND THEY CAN'T SEE AND CARS ARE RACING TOWARDS NORTHWEST. A LITTLE BOY GOT RAN WELL, NEARLY RAN OVER THESE. THEY RAN OVER HIS BIKE AND CAME THIS CLOSE TO HIS LEGS OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WITH US ANY LONGER. SO THERE'S BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PREVENT FOR SAFETY AND PURPOSES IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT. AND OF COURSE, TRACTOR TRAILERS CAN'T MAKE THAT CUT. SO THEY CUT THROUGH THE MOTEL ACROSS MY PARKING LOT FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES. THEY RAN INTO MY PATIO AND FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES AND COME OUT OF MY POCKET BECAUSE IT DON'T MEET THE DEDUCTIBLE. AND THEY LEAVE ME A LITTLE CARD OR THEY LEAVE NOTHING. WELL, I RAN INTO YOUR PATIO AND IT'S SITTING ON THE GROUND, ALL THE BRICKS AND PILLARS AND ALL THAT. BUT SO I PUT BIG POST IN. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES ANYMORE. AND I THINK I GOT ALL COVERED. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. WE HAVE AN AREA AGREEMENT WITH THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE ON PARKING SPACES AND THAT GOES WITH MY DEED AND MY PROPERTY. AND I THINK I ASKED THE GALLUP THERE EARLIER, THE CITY AGENDA SITE I WAS LOOKING FOR A FORM SHOWS THAT THE RESTAURANTS, EQUITIES AND IN MY PLACE ARE PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED. I OWN THAT PROPERTY THERE AT 1933. AND THEN I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT ON 1933, IS YOUR PROPERTY? YES, SIR, IT IS. MR. ROBERTS? YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND I CALLED DOWN THERE, BUT THE GIRL'S REAL BUSY AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SHE SHOWS THE BLACK BOX. I SAID, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LOCATE THAT? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF GOT KIND OF BLOCKED MY VIEW OF MY BUILDING. AND SHE'S WHY? I DON'T KNOW. BUT THIS IS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST A FORMALITY. THEY PUT IT THERE BECAUSE MY 1933 AND THEIRS ISN'T BY WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. SO I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY NOT A DETAILED PLAN. THAT'S JUST THAT IS WHERE IT'S GOING IS GOING IN THAT RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT RIGHT AGAINST THE DOESN'T TAKE UP THE WHOLE DEAL. IT'S A SMALL BUILDING A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE. SO SO IT'S GOING RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CURVING ON NORTHWEST. NO, IT'S BACK. THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. YEAH. YEAH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE SITE, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ROBERTS. I WAS GOING TO HAVE HIM PULL IT UP, SO I KNEW WHICH PROPERTY WAS YOURS. YEAH. DID I GET YOUR ADDRESS? I'M SORRY. YEAH. TERRY KILLEEN, 1933 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. MM HMM. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. ARIA. MR. ROSE. WHAT IS IT? OH, A RECIPROCAL EASEMENT AGREEMENTS THAT GO WITH YOUR LAND. AND WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF SPEAKING ABOUT THAT. BUT I HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE THAT COULD AFFECT DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS SO MANY SPACES BEING USED. AND THEN ALSO, IF THEY DO THE BUSINESS, STARBUCKS DOES. LET ME ASK A QUESTION. YES, SIR. WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE ARIA WHEN YOU DID THE ANALYSIS ON THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. NO, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CHECK OUT BETWEEN NOW AND CONSOLE IF IT MOVES FORWARD. SURE. OKAY. AND YEAH. AND OF COURSE, AS A REMINDER WHAT THE LEASE AREA DOES MEET. THE THING IS, A LOT OF THESE PARKING LOTS ARE GETTING RECLAIMED BECAUSE IN 2015 WE CHANGED THE RATIO OF PARKING. AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A NOTION OF PARKING THAT NEVER GETS USED, SOME OF IT'S ALLOWED TO BE RECLAIMED. AND CITY STAFF LOOKS AT IT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S STILL ENOUGH FOR THE USES AND THEY CAN DOUBLE CHECK. AND I THINK SINCE YOUR YOUR BUILDING IS ON THAT PROPERTY IS PROBABLY CALCULATED IN ANYHOW. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT SCOTT YOU'RE SAYING THAT MY BUILDINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY OR OR ARE YOU TALKING PLAT NOW. [00:55:08] I'LL GET THAT OFF. IT'S OFF TO THE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF CONFUSION. I ONLY HAVE PEOPLE STOP BY AND SAY, TERRY, DO YOU OWN THE PROPERTY BEHIND YOU? I SAID, NO, NO, NO. I OWN MY PROPERTY AND THE PARKING IN THE FRONT THAT HAS NO NOTHING TO DO WITH ME BECAUSE AT ONE TIME STEAK AND ALE RENTED AND THEY DIDN'T OWN THAT SITE. THE SHOPPING CENTER OWNED IT. THAT WAS MANY YEARS AGO. WE HAVE IN 1985, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DETAILED PLAN UP HERE, THERE'S A SMALL RECTANGLE TO THE LEFT, ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE. I'M SORRY, SIR. IF YOU IF YOU LOOK UP THERE, YOU'LL SEE A SMALL RECTANGLE ON THE LEFT, ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE. AND IT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE CARS ARE DRIVING AROUND THAT SMALL RECTANGLE. IT'S A VERY SMALL BUILDING. SO THE VIEW TO YOUR BUILDING, WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE TURN CUES AND ALL THAT? IT'S ALL WORKED OUT. YEAH, WELL, THEY EXTEND OUT TO THE STREET. I MEAN, IF THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE WANTING COFFEE AND SO FORTH OR WHAT, I MEAN BECAUSE BECAUSE THE STARBUCKS IS A LINE, OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED IT OVER AND THEY'RE. YEAH, YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST SO WE CAN MAKE IT WORK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AGAINST THEIR PROJECT. DON'T, DON'T, DON'T, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FINE DETAILS. WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS WORKED OUT. WELL, IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND THEY'RE THE EXPERTS THAT THAT WE HIRE. SO. YEAH, WELL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT YEAH, I THINK I GOT IT PRETTY MUCH ALL COVERED IN. I JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE AREA AND PARKING AND SO FORTH AND WE PROBABLY WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION ON THAT MATTER BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO. WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER DALTON. NOW, I WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU OWN THE. EBENEZER. EBENEZER. YES, SIR. YES. NEXT DOOR TO THIS OK. YOU MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC HAS BEEN FLYING THROUGH THIS SHOPPING CENTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME. OH, YEAH, IT HAS. HAVING ANOTHER RESTAURANT IN HERE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT. IT'S THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE FLYING THROUGH THIS SHOPPING CENTER LIKE THAT. THE SHOPPING CENTER BEHIND YOU. THE L-SHAPED PROPERTY BEHIND YOU. YES. IS THAT ONE OWNERSHIP BACK THERE AND OWNS THE PARKING LOT OUT FRONT? OKAY. YES. YES, MR. DALTON. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THEY CHANGED OWNERSHIP BACK LAST OCTOBER. I THINK THERE'S LIKE FIVE PEOPLE IN THE REAL ESTATE GROUP THAT BOUGHT IT OUT. RIGHT. MY QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM? I HAVE. I HAVE, SIR. AND BUT I WANTED TO BRING THE POINTS ACROSS TO YOU ALL AND THEN ALSO TO CITY COUNCIL. SO EVERYTHING'S DOCUMENTED BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THIS AND IT DON'T GET DONE? AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WELL, I HOPE YOU RESPECT ME FOR WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. AND THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE, THOUGH, THAT WE APPROVE THIS. WE'RE NOT PUTTING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON ONE TENANT TO PUT IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OF SPEED BUMPS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE, A PROBLEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS LONG BEFORE THEY SHOWED UP ON THE PROPERTY. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER ROBERTS SAID, THIS PLACE IS VERY SMALL. THERE IS ONE VERY CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. I NEVER SEE MORE THAN TWO CARS IN THE QUEUE AS I GO BY. IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PULL UP, PARK AND GO INSIDE AND DRINK COFFEE. IT'S ALWAYS JUST DRIVE THROUGH. MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION THEN? WOULD YOU FEEL THEIR SALES VOLUMES AS GOOD AS STARBUCKS THEN? I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T DRINK EITHER ONE. YEAH, I AGREE. I DRINK MY UNIFORM. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING WITH THIS CONVERSATION. I DRINK MINE AT HOME. OKAY. BUT I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT CONVERSATION. YEAH. SQUARE FOOT SALES, ETC.. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. AND I HAD ANOTHER SPEAKER, HENRY DAVIS. AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, IF YOU PLEASE, SIR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL GUESTS. MY NAME IS HENRY DAVIS. I'M A FUNERAL DIRECTOR HERE IN TOWN. SEXY AS WELL. MY CONCERN MOST OF ALL WOULD BE DONE. NELSON CENTER PEOPLE SPEEDING TO THE PARKING LOT. IT'S UNBEARABLE. SO I CAN GO DOWN THERE SOMETIMES ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AND PEOPLE WILL FLY THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT LIKE IT'S UNBELIEVABLE BEFORE WE OPEN. UH, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND. [01:00:01] I KNOW IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. POLICE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTION THERE, BUT I'VE BEEN IN GARLAND 64 YEARS, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. UM. TERRY RUNS A VERY FINE ESTABLISHMENT. IT'S THERE'S NO FIGHTING THERE. IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GO. ENJOY YOURSELF AND CHILL OUT WHEN YOU'RE OFF. I WISH THERE WAS AN ANSWER, BUT THERE'S NOT. I DON'T THINK SPEED BUMPS, ARE IT. ALL RIGHTY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT TO DO TO CORRECT IT. WELL, I THINK IT'S BEEN HEARD TONIGHT, AND I IMAGINE YOU GUYS WILL BE PASSING IT ON TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR TRAFFICKING. AND WE DON'T CARE WHAT GOES OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT. WE REALLY DON'T. AS LONG AS THEY CAN CORRELATE, CORRELATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER I HAVE LISTED FOR THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? APPLICANT IS NOT HERE THAT I KNOW OF. I ASKED FOR HIM. OKAY. SO, COMMISSIONERS, MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ROSE, CAN WE. CAN WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE APPLICANT GETS HERE? NOT TONIGHT, BUT OUR NEXT MEETING? NO, THIS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND WHATNOT. THE STATE TOOK CARE OF TOOK THAT AUTHORITY AWAY FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THEY INSTITUTED THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK FOR DETAILED PLANS. AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR HAVING APPLICANTS GET TOGETHER WITH NEIGHBORS OR IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP OR DELAYED, WE EITHER HAVE TO VOTE YES OR NO. AND WE ALL KNOW. THEY CAN REAPPLY THAT CONFIGURE. OH. OH. HERE WE GO. HI. I WASN'T REALLY SURE WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE MY CUE TO COME UP AND TALK, SO I. MY NAME IS HAYLEY WIMMER. I DID NOT SIGN IN, BUT MY ADDRESS IS 1611 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE IN SHERMAN, TEXAS, 75092. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE I'M ASSUMING THE APPLICANT. THIS IS MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, SO BEAR WITH ME. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT WE'RE ALL FRIENDS HERE. WELL, HELLO. SO THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. SO I AM OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. I WAS ASKED TO COME UP AND SPEAK, I GUESS, ON THE APPLICANT'S BEHALF. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU, WHETHER IT'S FOR, I GUESS, THE SPEED BUMPS OR OR ANYTHING OPERATIONALLY OR TRAFFIC FLOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON A SPEED BUMP ISSUE. LET ME ASK STAFF A QUESTION. WE REALLY CAN'T MANDATE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR PARTICULAR APPLICATION, CAN WE, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A LEASE, RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO ASK MR. GORMAN. YEAH. THE REQUEST AT HAND FOR THE SAP IN THE PLAN. IT IS FOR THIS LEASE AREA AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC REVIEW FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, ENGINEERING AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS WELL AS PARKING ON SITE PARKING WITH THE WITHIN THE LEASE AREA, IT DOES MEET TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. BUT I THINK WE'VE PICKED UP SOME INFORMATION HERE TONIGHT THAT TRAFFIC DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. OKAY. AND THIS IS A COFFEE SHOP, RIGHT? YES, IT'S A DRIVE THRU COFFEE SHOP. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ROSE. WELL, COMMISSIONER PARRISH, THEN. COMMISSIONER ROSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS MORE SO FOR STAFF VERSUS THE PERSON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY REVIEWED. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO HELP WITH THE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC TO THE PARKING LOT? WELL, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYZES ARE TYPICALLY TRIGGERED BY A PEAK HOUR OF TRAFFIC FROM A PARTICULAR LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS SO THAT THIS DID NOT MEET THAT THRESHOLD FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY. SO AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. TRAFFIC STUDIES USUALLY CONCENTRATE ON VOLUME AND CAPACITY, BUT I THINK THIS INFORMATION I THINK MR. GOERENS HEARD ENOUGH OF IT THAT IT WILL BE PASSED ALONG ALREADY. WAS THAT IT? COMMISSIONER ROSE, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO IS TO THE APPLICANT. [01:05:02] I AM THE ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR RC HOLDINGS, SO I HELP A LOT WITH SOME OF THE BACK END STUFF FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION SITES, UPGRADES FOR OUR STORES. SO I WAS ASKED TO BE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OF THE APPLICANT. I WAS IN NO WAY PREPARED FOR THIS AT ALL. SO JUST BEAR WITH ME HERE. BUT AS FAR AS, LIKE I SAID, OPERATIONAL THINGS GO OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT OUR BUSINESS MODEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE. YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. I'LL ASK AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE IN THIS ITEM? SEEING THE COMMISSIONERS. MOTION OR DISCUSSION. I'LL WAIT. COMMISSIONER ROSE, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. GO AHEAD. OH, I DID. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HEAR SECOND? AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARRIS. THIS IS JUST TOO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT. AND GO AND DISCUSSION. VOTE. PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHTY. THAT IS PROVEN UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN THAT HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT TO RAISE THE ISSUES THAT DIRECTLY RELATE TO THIS APPLICATION AND THEIR LEASES OR THEIR OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME. IT IS ALWAYS IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE RECOMMENDED IN COURAGE THAT THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE TAKE TIME TO COME DOWN AND EXPRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF. AND THAT'S ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO KNOW AND WHAT DIRECTION THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE. SO THANK YOU TO THOSE TWO GENTLEMEN. AND THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE. I'M CONCERNED. LIKE COMMISSIONER JENKINS HAS SAID, HOW CAN WE RELATE AND PASS ON TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY CONSIDER THIS? DOING SOMETHING ABOUT CONTROLLING THE WILD, CRAZY TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THIS WHOLE AREA. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT IS HASN'T IGNORED. THEY'RE JUST NOT AWARE OF IT PROBABLY. AND NOW THAT THIS HAS COME FORWARD, THEY SHOULD BE AWARE OF IT AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT? IT'S KIND OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. IF THAT'S IF THIS PROBLEM EXISTS AND IT COULD GET A LITTLE WORSE. I MEAN, EVEN IF THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE CARS. THANK YOU. GOING THROUGH THIS COFFEE SHOP OR WHATEVER IT IS. WELL, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WILL PROBABLY TAKE TO CONSOLE THEIR CONCERNS AND STAFF WILL RELAY THEIR CONCERNS. AND AND THE APPLICANT MAY EVEN WANT TO RELAY THEIR CONCERNS TO THE PERSON TO THE GROUP THEY'RE LEASING FROM. SO HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. FOLLOW UP THEN IS THEN. I GOT YOU. YEAH. CAN WE ASK? THE TRAFFIC, ASKED THE COUNCIL TO ASK THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT TO GO IN AND DO A BETTER STUDY OF WHAT THIS TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS AND GO AT A TIME WHEN THE TRAFFIC IS BAD. DON'T GO AT A TIME WHEN YOU KNOW YOU JUST CAN FLY THROUGH. AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I MEAN, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT. IT IS A PROBLEM THAT'S THERE EXISTING. THIS CASE PROBABLY DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT IT FOR BETTER OR WORSE, BUT IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER PARIS, THAT WAS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING IS FOR THIS APPLICANT, THIS THIS THIS PARKING ISSUE EXISTED PRIOR TO THIS REQUEST COMING FORWARD. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF HAS HEARD THE CONCERNS AND WILL TAKE IT FORWARD. BUT I WOULDN'T I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO USE THE WORD PENALIZE, BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD IT AGAINST THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF AN EXISTING PROBLEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT FROM A DISCUSSION STANDPOINT. THIS MAY BE NEWS TO THEM, TOO, RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHTY. [01:10:01] ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT EMOTION. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO MAKES IT. MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE AMENDMENT, THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND THE DETAILED PLAN. THAT IS CORRECT. AND A SECOND I SEE COMING IN FROM COMMISSIONER. SECOND, YES. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PEARS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. ALL THREE PARTS. THE AMENDMENT TO THE PD, THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND THE DETAILED PLAN. PLEASE VOTE. YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE COMMISSION AT ALL. ERIC HERE. WE GOT IT. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING DOWN. AND BE SURE TO LET COUNCIL KNOW ABOUT THE ISSUES, TOO. THEY'LL LOVE ME FOR SAYING THAT. [Items 3F - 3H] ALREADY THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER THREE PARTER, WHICH IS AGAIN, AN AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC USED PROVISION AND A DETAILED PLAN. ITEM THREE F CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF GARLAND STORAGE LP REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD 2017. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 16 ZERO ONE FARRIS ROAD AND 6320 AND 6330 NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. ITEM TWO G CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF GARLAND STORAGE L.P. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. THE SAME ADDRESS. ITEM TWO H CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF GALAN STORAGE L.P. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR SELF-STORAGE FACILITY MANY WAREHOUSE RETAIL AND OFFICE USES ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2017 FOR MIXED USES. THIS PROPERTY AGAIN IS 16 ZERO ONE EAST FERRIS 6320 AND 6330 NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. IN MR. MAXWELL FISHER. CHAIRMAN ROBERTS COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER WITH MASTER PLAN 2595 DALLAS PARKWAY FRISCO, TEXAS 752034 REPRESENTING PROJECT SERVICES GROUP. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO SHARE. IF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, FIRST START WITH WHY STORAGE? THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY THERE'S SO MUCH STORAGE IN THE AREA THAT OBVIOUSLY OUR POPULATION IS JUST BOOMING RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE HOUSING FROM PEOPLE MOVING IN THE AREA. AND SO YOU HAVE RENTERS BY CHOICE. THERE'S NO RULES OR YOU CAN'T KEEP AS MUCH STUFF IN YOUR HOUSE. OPEN FLOOR PLANS WHICH LIMIT THE STORAGE AREA THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HOUSE. EMPTY NESTERS, DOWNSIZING, REMODELS, FORECLOSURES OR TEMPORARY SITUATIONS. JUST, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE MORE MONEY IN A IN A BOOMING ECONOMY AND THEY HAVE MORE STUFF AND THEY NEED A PLACE TO KEEP IT. AND THEN BUSINESS COSTS ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE KEEP THEIR SPACE OR THEIR STUFF IN THE BACK OF THEIR BUSINESS SPACE. AND SO THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT RENT, A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE AT THE FACILITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY SERVE SERVE THOSE CLIENTS AS WELL. THIS IS AN ODD PHOTO I THINK YOU'LL FIND AS I'M PROPOSING SELF STORAGE AND I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU SHOWING HERE? WELL, THE TOP PHOTO IS IS OR IS THE MOTEL HOTEL INDUSTRY. AND THEN THE BOTTOM ONE IS THE MULTIFAMILY INDUSTRY. AND THE SELF-STORAGE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED, NOT UNLIKE THESE THESE INDUSTRIES. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SORT OF YOUR BOUTIQUE HOTEL AS OPPOSED TO YOUR OLD MOTEL STYLE. AND THEN INSTEAD OF A TWO STORY GARDEN STYLE, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ELEVATOR SERVED, HIGHLY AMENITIES, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THE SELF-STORAGE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED ALSO OVER THE YEARS. YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR OLD INDUSTRIAL LOOKING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, I HATE TO PICK ON U-HAUL, BUT THEY HAVE SOME OF THE OLDER FACILITIES AND SO YOU HAVE OUTSIDE STORAGE AND A LOT OF THE ROLL UP DOORS, THEY'RE FACING OUT. NO SCREENING. WELL, WE'RE NOT THAT. AND SO I HOPE TO SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT THROUGH HERE. SO THIS IS THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT'S ON ON GEORGE BUSH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. SO IT HAS A LOT OF VISIBILITY. THIS WOULD BE AN ALL INTERIOR STORAGE FACILITY. WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY DRIVE UP DOORS AT ALL. IT'S ALL INTERIOR ACCESS FROM AN INTERIOR CORRIDOR. [01:15:03] IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING. AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER USES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. HOURS OF OPERATIONS TYPICAL FOR SELF STORAGE, 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM. WE'LL HAVE ONSITE STAFF 24 SEVEN MEANING THERE'LL BE SOMEONE THAT WILL LIVE IN THE LIVING QUARTERS IN THE BACK 24 SEVEN BUT WE'RE ONLY OUR OFFICE HOURS, WE'RE ONLY BE FROM SIX AND ACTUALLY THE STORAGE IS OPEN FROM 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.. THE OFFICE HOURS ARE USUALLY ARE LIMITED TO MORE GENERAL OFFICE HOURS. WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF SECURITY CAMERAS AT OUR ENTRANCE POINTS FOR SECURITY REASONS AND THE SELF-STORAGE SUBMARKET. THERE AREN'T A LOT OF STORAGE FACILITIES WITHIN A REALLY SHORT DISTANCE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT OUR CLIENTS LIKE TO BE VERY CLOSE TO OUR STORAGE FACILITIES, USUALLY A MILE OR TWO. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO TRAVEL FARTHER THAN THAT, DISTANCE AWAY TO ACCESS OUR STORAGE. SO AND THEY LIKE TO BE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCE, SO AND SO YOU'VE SEEN THE STORAGE INDUSTRY CHANGE OVER THE LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS. I'D SAY TEN YEARS WHERE THEY'VE THEY'VE TRIED TO GET HAVE CHANGED THEIR PRODUCT TO GET CLOSER TO NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OR NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY SELF-STORAGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT AREN'T WAREHOUSE LOOKING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SEEN THOSE COME BEFORE. HERE'S THE SUBMARKET SUPPLY. THERE'S ABOUT 635,000 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE IN THE SUBMARKET AREA, ABOUT THREE MILES SUBMARKET AREAS SINCE THIS ONE IS ON THE HIGHWAY. TYPICALLY IN DFW, YOU HAVE ABOUT 8 TO 9 AND A HALF SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE PER PERSON. THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD AVERAGE, PARTICULARLY IN A BOOMING ECONOMY, BUT JUST IN GENERAL. BUT AND SO THIS PARTICULAR AREA HAS ABOUT 5.5 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE PER PERSON. AND ALL THE FACILITIES WITHIN OUR SUBMARKET AREA ARE ABOUT 95% FULL. SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT. SO THAT SCREAMS WE NEED ANOTHER FACILITY WHEN YOU HAVE OCCUPANCY RATES THAT HIGH. AND SO WHEN YOU ADD THIS PROPOSED FACILITY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE AT 6.5 SQUARE FEET PER PERSON. WELL, UNDER THE AVERAGE, YOU COULD PROBABLY ADD ANOTHER FACILITY TOMORROW AND YOU WOULD FILL THAT THAT ONE UP ALSO. AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST DEVELOPING IN THE MIDDLE OF OF SOME GREENFIELD AND SORT OF COMPROMISING WHAT COULD DEVELOP WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE A FIRE STATION THAT'S PROPOSED ON OUR WEST SIDE, AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE NEXT IMMEDIATE PARCEL. IT STILL LEAVES THE BALANCE OR THE PARCEL TO THE TO THE EAST AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THIS ISN'T A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT HAS SOME SOME CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE KIND OF MORE QUASI CODE, BASE CODE FORM, BASE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES THERE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO ACHIEVE IS GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ON ON GEORGE BUSH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED AND WE'LL SHOW YOU HERE. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, 5200 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH. THERE WOULD BE STORAGE IN THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR ABOVE THAT. AND THEN FOR THE BALANCE OF THE FIRST FLOOR, IT WOULD BE STORAGE. BUT EVERYTHING IS ACCESSED FROM THIS INTERNAL CORRIDOR THAT YOU SEE THERE WITH THAT YELLOW ARROW. SO YOU HAVE TO DRIVE INTO THE FACILITY TO ACCESS THE STORAGE UNITS. SO THIS IS A TOTALLY INTERNALIZED DEVELOPMENT. THEN ON OUR SINCE THIS IS A DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT, IT HAS FRONTAGE ON TWO STREETS. WE CREATED AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE BACK THAT WILL WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF MEDICAL OR OTHER OFFICE USER THAT DOESN'T NEED GREAT VISIBILITY. BUT WE DID SOME FOUR SIDED ARCHITECTURE ON THAT TO MEET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SO THAT WAY IT SORT OF READS LIKE A FRONT ON FERRIS AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE BUILDING. WE'VE WELL, IT MEETS THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT'S WELL ARTICULATED ITS BRICK AND STUCCO MATERIAL LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE READS LIKE AN OFFICE HERE'S FROM THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM FERRIS LOOKING SOUTH. SO WE HAVE OUR OUR INTERVENING OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S ONE STORY IN THE FRONT AS SORT OF A TRANSITION TO THE LARGER STORAGE BUILDING IN THE BACK. THERE ARE A FEW DEVIATIONS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR ON TRANSPARENCY AND GLAZING BECAUSE THE STANDARDS ARE SET UP TO BASICALLY TO CREATE MORE LIKE A DOWNTOWN LIKE YOU SEE AROUND HERE WHERE YOU JUST HAVE GLASS ACROSS THE WHOLE FRONT. AND WE DID AS MUCH GLASS AS WE COULD FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT. AND WE'RE ON THE EDGE OF THIS OVERALL. YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE PD DESIGN STANDARDS ARE INTENDED FOR MORE OF THE CORE TO THE NORTH OF HERE, WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF CREATE STREETS THAT ARE MORE I WOULD SAY, MORE URBAN FRIENDLY OR PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, URBAN IN DESIGN PROJECT SERVICES GROUP. THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THEM. WE HELPED THEM WITH THE REZONING IN MESQUITE CHALLENGING SITE. THIS IS A VERY INTELLIGENT AND CAPABLE DEVELOPER WHO CAN CAN DEVELOP CHALLENGING SITES. AND THIS ONE'S NOT AS TOUGH AS THE ONE THAT WE DID IN MESQUITE. [01:20:01] BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A RETAIL FRONT ON THAT BUILDING, TOO. IT HAS A NICE AUSTIN STONE LOOK. IT JUST SHOWS THE INSIGHT INSIDE OF THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE VERY CLEAN AND WELL-LIT. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER THIS IN DETAIL, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY DOING ABOUT DOUBLE THE LANDSCAPE AREA THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED. WE HAVE A OF COURSE, OUR LARGE TREES AND SHRUBS ALONG BOTH BOTH OUR OUR STREETS, AS WELL AS SOME PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING. I'LL GO OVER THESE MODEST MODIFICATIONS REAL QUICKLY. JUST A COUPLE. WE ELIMINATE A STREET TREE REQUIREMENT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TREES THAT ARE IN THE GREATS LIKE YOU SEE OUT HERE. IT WASN'T PRACTICAL GIVEN THE STREETSCAPE. WE'RE DOING LANDSCAPE BUFFERS WITH TREES IN THEM. SO DON'T BE DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT DOING THE TREES. WE'RE DOING THEM IN A MORE CONVENTIONAL SENSE. FACADE TRANSPARENCY, WHICH I MENTIONED, THERE'S NO PERIMETER FENCING REQUIRED ON THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT VARIANCE IS IT'S A FACILITY THAT'S ALL INSIDE. SO IT'S A SELF STORAGE FACILITY THAT THOSE FENCING REQUIREMENT IS USUALLY MORE APPROPRIATE WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF DRIVE UP UNITS WHERE THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY OUTSIDE AND YOU WANT TO SECURE THAT WHOLE FACILITY. SO A FENCING HERE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND UNLESS WE HAVE RETAIL AND OFFICE AS WELL AND THAT DOESN'T PLAY WELL WITH FENCING IT IN. THIS IS MORE OF AN ITEM FOR COUNCIL, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE TAX VALUE FOR THIS THIS PROPERTY. IF IT GETS DEVELOPED, IT'S IT'S PRETTY IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE WE HAVE RETAIL AND OFFICE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME RETAIL SALES TAX. BUT THE SELF STORAGE, WHEN THESE SELF STORAGE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BUILT, THEY ADD TONS OF AD VALOREM PROPERTY VALUE. IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A SEVEN FOLD INCREASE. YOU GO FROM ABOUT 50,000 IN TAXES UP TO 7 TO 354000 IN TAXES ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED OUT. SO IT'S A HUGE TAX CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY AS WELL AS THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE IN THE COUNTY. I'LL STOP THERE. I WRAP UP. I APPRECIATE STATS RECOMMENDATION OF SUPPORT AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THAT'S A MIXED USE THAT'S COMPLIES WITH THE PD STANDARDS AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND WILL PROVIDE A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE OR STORAGE AND ALSO A RETAIL AND OFFICE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ART AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. THANK YOU, MAXWELL, FOR THAT PRESENTATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE, THEY ALWAYS THINK OF WITH STORAGE IS TRAFFIC. AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TOUCH ON WHAT YOU WHAT TYPICALLY YOU SEE WITH STORAGE FACILITY LIKE THIS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO SELF STORAGE ACTUALLY IS A IS A GREAT EQUALIZER OF TRAFFIC. IT'S ONE OF THE LOWEST TRIP GENERATORS ON THE LIST. IN FACT, WE HAVE THIS WILL COME UP IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT. WE HAVE GATE LOG INFORMATION. WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY TRIPS THAT COME TO OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY EITHER GO THROUGH THE GATE AND THERE'S A FEW THAT GO TO THE GET TO THE OFFICE AREA, NOT THROUGH THE GATE, BUT WE HAVE 3 TO 5 TRIPS PER HOUR THROUGH THE GATE AND THEN WE OCCASIONALLY HAVE A GUEST STOP IN TO RENT A FACILITY FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, A FEW A DAY AND THEN MAYBE SOMEONE TO PAY A BILL. BUT USUALLY THAT'S PAID ONLINE. SO TECHNOLOGY HAS INCREASED AND WE EVEN HAVE FEWER TRIPS. PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THE STORAGE UNITS, HARDLY EVER, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO OR THREE MONTHS. AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL GO BY AFTER CHURCH ON THE WAY HOME FROM WORK. SO THESE ARE NOT, I WOULD CALL STANDALONE TRIPS THAT ARE BEING GENERATED. SO IT'S ACTUALLY THERE A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION WITH SELF STORAGE. YOU HEAR CRIME AND THE ESSENCE OF THESE FACILITIES IS THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND SECURE. THEY'RE NOT GENERATING CRIME. IF IF PEOPLE WERE BREAKING INTO THEM, THEN THEY WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A SAFE FACILITY AND THEN PEOPLE WOULDN'T RENT THEIR. AND SO THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE. ANYWAY, I'M GETTING OFF TO A TANGENT, BUT THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH IN THE STORAGE INDUSTRY OFTEN. BUT HOPEFULLY I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. OH, NO, THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS. COMMISSIONER ROSE, WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THIS? THEY WANT TO START BUILDING IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS OR TWO OR THREE YEARS. WELL, WE WOULD IF THE COUNCIL, COMMISSION AND COUNCIL BLESS THE ITEM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND PERMITTING. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE THE BALANCE THE REST OF THE YEAR. AND SO WE'D PROBABLY BREAK GROUND SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE PERMITTING TIME FRAME. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A DEVIATION REGARDING SCREENING. TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH, WELL, TYPICALLY IF YOU HAVE SORT OF RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY OR IF YOU'RE DOING SOME DRIVE UP COMPONENT STORAGE, THEN YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE YOUR PERIMETER BUILDING SORT OF ACT AS YOUR SCREENING AND THEN YOU WOULD BUILD WALLS IN BETWEEN THOSE THOSE DRIVE UP BUILDINGS. [01:25:03] WELL, THIS IS A TOTALLY INTERIOR BUILDING WITH RESIDENTIAL ON EACH SIDE. SO THE SCREENING REALLY DOESN'T APPLY FOR THIS TYPE OF SETUP. LET'S GET YOU UP. THERE YOU GO. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT IN THE FUTURE BE ADJACENT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, THE ZONING IN THE PLAN IS SUCH THAT IT WILL LIKELY NOT BE NEXT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL. SINCE WE'RE COMING IN FIRST THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON THEM, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED NONRESIDENTIAL, SO THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR SCREENING. I GUESS THE ONLY PROPERTY WOULD BE WOULD BE TO THE TO THE EAST. BUT I SUSPECT THAT WILL LIKELY NOT GO. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MULTIFAMILY POSSIBLY. BUT. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ADD TO THAT. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THIS SUBJECT, PROPERTY ZONING WISE, WOULD NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY, AND THE CITY'S FIRE STATION IS EXPECTED TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR EXCUSE ME, IS PROPOSED IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY. I'M SURE THE I'M SURE THE THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND FIREMEN WILL ENJOY THE OPAQUE AND SCENIC VIEW THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL. SO. THANK YOU. AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL JUST ADD THAT LIKE MOST OF THE PROJECTS YOU BRING FORWARD, THERE'S EXTRA THOUGHT PUT INTO THEM. AND I APPRECIATE THAT PERSONALLY. AND YEAH, AND THIS ONE MAKES SENSE BECAUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET YOU'VE GOT 1600 APARTMENTS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED STORAGE AND YOU GO A HALF MILE, A MILE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER 2000 APARTMENTS. SO THIS IS ONE THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF NEED AND LOCATION. AND I APPRECIATE THE RETAIL ALONG 190 AND THE OFFICE ON THE BACK. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS AT HOME OFFICE THAT MAY WANT SOMETHING SEPARATE. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DIVIDE THAT UP INTO LITTLE THREE 500 SQUARE FOOT OFFICES AND PROBABLY FILL IT UP IN A HEARTBEAT. YEAH, DEFINITELY. MM HMM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS LISTED FOR THIS ITEM. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WE SPEAK IN THIS CASE? C NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS POSTED ALL THREE PARTS. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. ALL THREE PARTS. ANY DISCUSSION? NONE. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [Items 3I - 3K] ALL RIGHTY. WE'VE GOT ONE LAST CASE, ANOTHER THREE PARTER AND ANOTHER SELF STORAGE FACILITY. CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION AT KIMLEY-HORN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 0 TO 11 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO FIVE DASH 57 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2220 202 NORTH JUPITER ROAD. ITEM TO J. CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF KIMLEY-HORN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITY MINI WAREHOUSE. THIS PROPERTY SAME LOCATION. ITEM TWO K CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF KIMLEY-HORN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITY MINI WAREHOUSE ON A PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 0 TO 11 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO FIVE DISH 57 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2220 202 NORTH JUPITER ROAD. IT'S YOU AGAIN. ME AGAIN? CHAIRMAN FISHER. MAXWELL FISHER WITH MASTER PLAN 2595. DALLAS PARKWAY. FRISCO, TEXAS 755034. REPRESENTING HAINES ON THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OR PROVISION REQUEST. STAFF OUTLINE WHERE THE SITE IS. IT'S LOCATED ADJACENT TO ELECTRIC SUBSTATION BEHIND A COUPLE OF RETAILERS. IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS FOR A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES. AND THAT IT'S A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES PARTICULARLY IS THAT IT HAS VERY LIMITED FRONTAGE, LIMITED VISIBILITY FROM FROM JUPITER. AND THEN ACCESS IS ALSO LIMITED SOMEWHAT. PROPOSING A ONE STOREY OFFICE AND SELF STORAGE BUILDING IN THE FRONT. [01:30:05] IT WILL LOOK LIKE OFFICE RETAIL ALONG THE FRONT AND THAT WAS INTENDED TO ALIGN WITH THE RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON EACH SIDE OF US. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A THREE STOREY SELF STORAGE BUILDING IN THE BACK CLIMATE CONTROLLED BUILDING. AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT THE ONE STOREY OFFICE IS SORT OF IN THE FRONT WITH THE WITH THE TALLER BUILDING IN THE BACK. AND SO IT PROVIDES THIS NICE TRANSITION. AND I'LL SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS OF THAT IN A BIT. ONE OF THE THINGS HERE, WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY ON OUR NORTH SIDE. AND SO WE WANTED TO BE CAREFUL TO PROVIDE A SETBACK THAT IS THAT ALIGNS WITH THE SETBACK FOR MULTIFAMILY ZONING ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO WORK WITH. AND SO TYPICALLY A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HAS MULTIPLE STOREYS. YOU HAVE TO BE 1.25 TIMES SETBACK TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. AND SO WE ACHIEVE THAT HERE. WE PROVIDED THAT SETBACK. NOT ONLY THAT, WE'LL HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT TALL WALL AND AND SOME LANDSCAPING, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU. HERE IT IS, EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME ELM ELM TREES WE'RE PLANNING BACK THERE. THOSE DO LEAVE THAT LOSE THEIR LEAVES. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SWAPPING THOSE OUT FOR AN EVERGREEN TREE LIKE A LIVE OAK OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD DO THAT BEFORE COUNCIL. IF THE IN THE COMMISSION IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE'D BE HAPPY TO. WE HAVE NO LOADING OR UNLOADING ACTIVITIES ON THAT NORTH SIDE. AGAIN, THIS IS A BUILDING WHERE ALL THE STORAGE AND ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE INSIDE. YOU ACTUALLY PULL UP ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE AND SOME DIFFERENT A FEW KEY POINTS. AND THEN YOU WOULD UNLOAD INTO IT IN A CORRIDOR ON THE INSIDE AND THEN TAKE AN ELEVATOR UPSTAIRS OR GO TO YOUR FIRST FLOOR UNIT. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AND THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES DON'T CREATE A LOT OF NOISE ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOU'RE MOVING SOME FURNITURE OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE THAT YOU WANT TO STORE IN THE FACILITY. HERE'S THE OFFICE BUILDING ALONG THE FRONT. IT'S CLEAN, MODERN ARCHITECTURE. WE HAVE SOME BRICK, SOME STUCCO, AND THEN A LOT OF GLAZING ON THIS ON THIS FACILITY, OUR BUILDING. THIS IS THE BACK BUILDING HERE. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE TWO ARCHITECTURAL ACCENTS ON EACH SIDE AND THAT ACTUALLY COMPLEMENTS THE FRONT BUILDING. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE FRONT BUILDING AND THEN ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILD FRONT BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE THE BACK BECAUSE IT'S A WIDER THE SECOND BUILDING IN THE BACK AND IT'S WIDER AND YOU'LL AND IT WILL ACTUALLY ALIGN OR SORT OF INTEGRATE IN WITH THAT FRONT BUILDING YOU CAN SEE HERE. ON THE NORTH ELEVATION. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WINDOWS. SO UNLIKE LIKE MULTIFAMILY, WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING DOWN INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A STORAGE FACILITY. IT'S ALL WALLS ON THAT NORTH SIDE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A QUITE A QUIET USER. THEY WON'T EVEN KNOW WE'RE THERE. THAT'S HOW QUIET IT IS. YOU CAN SEE WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DRIVE UP, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SUBSTATION SIDE. SO IT FACES A SUBSTATION AGAINST ANOTHER WALL THAT WON'T BE VISIBLE. HERE'S HERE'S THE RENDERING. THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM JUPITER. YOU CAN SEE THE THREE STORY BUILDING IN THE BACK WITH THE ONE STORY IN THE FRONT. SUBMARKET DATA ON THIS ONE. QUITE A FEW FACILITIES OVER ON A LARGER AREA. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 2 TO 3 MILE AREA, WHICH IS WHAT MATTERS, THERE'S VERY FEW IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, I'D SAY VERY FEW. THERE'S THERE'S AN UNDERSERVED AMOUNT, PARTICULARLY CLIMATE CONTROL. CLIMATE CONTROL STORAGE IS REALLY UNDERSUPPLIED IN THIS AREA. YOU HAVE A 94% OCCUPANCY RATE AND THE CLIMATE CONTROL RENTS HAVE GONE UP 19% SINCE LAST YEAR, WHICH IS ASTRONOMICAL, I THINK. BUT THIS THIS WILL HELP EASE THAT THOSE RENTS. SO IT CAN EASILY ABSORB ANOTHER FACILITY. HERE'S THE LIST OF FACILITIES IN THIS IN THE MARKET AREA. THIS MARKET AREA HAS QUITE A BIT OF POPULATION, TOO. YOU HAD ABOUT 157,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE MARKET AREA. AND SO ADDING ABOUT 90,000 SQUARE FEET OF RENTABLE SPACE HERE, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 8.2, THREE SQUARE FEET PER PERSON AND DFW AVERAGE IS 8 TO 9 AND A HALF. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE IS THIS AREA IS UNDERSUPPLIED FROM A CLIMATE CONTROL STANDPOINT AND THAT'S THAT'S MOST OF OUR PRODUCT. WE REACHED OUT TO BRIER OAKS, THE ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT VILLAGE ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT, WHO IS THE LIAISON BACK IN FEBRUARY AND HAD A LITTLE A LITTLE CHALLENGE GETTING THEM TO RESPOND. SO THE ASSOCIATION WAS FINE AND RESPONDING. IT WAS THE HOA BOARD. DIDN'T RESPOND. AND THEN WE FINALLY THEY FINALLY THE ASSOCIATION. AFTER A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UPS, CAME BACK AND SAID THEY DON'T THEY DON'T CARE. [01:35:02] AND I WAS LIKE AND WE WERE LIKE, WELL, THEY JUST HATE IT. OR, I MEAN, THEY DON'T CARE. LIKE, THEY DON'T WANT TO MEET AND THEY JUST DON'T CARE. AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THEY DON'T LIVE CLOSE ENOUGH TO MATTER. SO, SO WE DID THE FINAL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. AND, AND, AND SO THE POINT IS, IS WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE BOARD WASN'T INTERESTED IN MEETING JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH. I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW LETTERS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION. SOME OF THOSE ARE MISCONCEPTIONS AND STORIES THAT WE DEAL WITH OFTEN CRIME, NOISE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT JUST DON'T EXIST WITH THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. THAT'S ALL INTERNALIZED SELF STORAGE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTING ON THE NORTH SIDE FACING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE HAVE NO STORAGE, NO LOADING, NO LIGHTING. WE'VE SCREENED IT, WE'VE GOT TREES AND A SCREENING WALL. WE THINK WE'VE WE'VE DONE DONE WELL ON BUFFERING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. AGAIN, TECH SLIDE. INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS ONE. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE. OVERALL, HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY VALUE HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PROPERTY SHOWS YOU HOW CHALLENGING IT IS AS A PROPERTY. IT'S ONLY WORTH A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE TAX ROLLS BECAUSE IT HAS THE CHALLENGES IT DOES. SO IT'S NOT REALLY ATTRACTIVE TO A RETAILER OR EVEN OFFICE USER FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AND THAT'S WHY IT SIT THERE. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL SEE A 50 TIMES INCREASE IN TAX VALUE TO THE CITY FROM WHERE IT IS NOW, WHICH IS ABOUT THE MOST I'VE SEEN ON THE STORAGE PROJECT. I'LL STOP THERE. I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THAT IT WE FEEL IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR CONDITIONS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, PROVISION ON A CHALLENGING PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE CLIMATE CONTROL PRODUCT FOR THE COMMUNITY. COMMISSIONER. ROSE HOOP. GO. AND THEN COMMISSIONER. GO BACK. ONE. OKAY. ONE MORE. THERE YOU GO. OH. YOU WERE TALKING TO BARNEY. YOU WERE TALKING TO HIM, NOT ME. ALL RIGHT, THIS SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM ILLUSTRATION DRAWING, THAT IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE FACING EAST THE POWER. YEAH. SUBSTATION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO DOORS OR THREE DOORS ON THE UNIT JUST ABOVE THAT. IS THAT GOING TO BE FACING SOUTH? YES. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE. OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS INSIDE. ALL RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER PARRISH, YOU HAD A QUESTION TO GO THE DEVIATION AGAIN. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE DEVIATION THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING? WHICH ONE IS IT? THAT'S. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE DEVIATION WAS. I THOUGHT YOU HAD REQUESTED. THIS WAS JUST THE PERIMETER SCREENING AROUND THE FRONT BUILDING. THE 1:00. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. SO, AGAIN, THIS ONE IS A PERIMETER SCREENING REQUEST. A DEVIATION OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE FRONT. WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE? YEAH, YEAH, WE ILLUSTRATE IT. YEAH. SO OUR WE HAVE THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT IS A ONE STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND SO IT'S OFFICE IN NATURE. AND SO IT REALLY YOU REALLY ISN'T YOU CAN'T SCREEN ALONG THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT AND SO WE CAN'T PUT UP GATES ALONG THERE. AND THIS ISN'T THAT AGAIN, THIS ISN'T LIKE A CONVENTIONAL STORAGE FACILITY WHERE YOU NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING SCREENED AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THOUGH WE DO HAVE SCREENING AS YOU HEAD BACK INTO THE THERE IS GOING TO BE A GATE AND THEN OF COURSE WE SCREEN FROM OUR NORTH, WE SCREEN FROM OUR E AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PERIMETER FENCING JUST ALONG OUTSIDE THE ACCESS EASEMENT ALONG THE FRONT. BUT BECAUSE WE SHARE DRIVE, I CAN'T REALLY POINT TO IT WITHOUT A POINTER, BUT WE SHARE THAT DRIVE WITH OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN NO DIFFERENT THAN THE OFFICE OR RETAIL USER. BUT THAT FRONT BUILDING IS ACTUALLY YOU SEE THE DOOR ON THE NORTH SIDE FACING THE PARKING LOT OF THE OF THE SMALL BUILDING IN THE FRONT. THAT IS WHERE YOU WOULD GO IN AND OUT OF THE STORAGE FACILITY. SO THERE'S NO LIKE DRIVE THERE'S NO GARAGE DOORS ON THAT SIDE. YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR YOUR YOUR MATERIALS INSIDE THE BUILDING AND INTO AN INTERIOR CORRIDOR. SO IT'S VERY RETAIL OFFICE IN NATURE IN THAT RESPECT. YOU ARE NOT NOW CREATING AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE IN A RETAIL AREA HERE. AND IT IS. IT IS FENCING AROUND THE REST OF THE AREA EXCEPT FOR THE SHARED SPACE IN THE OFFICE SPACE. CORRECT. IT MEETS THE STANDARDS. AND YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR DEVIATIONS IN THAT SET? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OTT. AND THEN COMMISSIONER OK. GOT IT. MAXWELL. WELL, THIS ONE HAVE A CARETAKER. THIS ONE WILL NOT. MOST OF THEM DO NOT HAVE THEM THESE DAYS BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS SO GOOD. NOW THAT USUALLY MONITORING WITH CAMERAS AND SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT, YOU DON'T NEED NEED ONE. [01:40:06] SOME PREFER TO HAVE HAVE THEM LIKE THE LAST CASE. AND IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND THE TYPE OF FACILITY. BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE BECOMING MORE OBSOLESCENT. THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT THEY WERE CHOOSING TO HAVE A CARETAKER ON IT. AND IT WAS INTERESTING. BUT WILL THERE WILL BE OFFICE STAFF, OBVIOUSLY, TO RENT UNITS HERE AND THEY'LL HAVE TYPICAL OFFICE HOURS. YEAH, THEY'LL BE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY ONE OR TWO OFFICE, AN OFFICE MANAGER IN ONE OR TWO STAFF THAT WOULD MAN THE THE OFFICE DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FACILITY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. THIS ONE I'M NOT QUITE AS COMFORTABLE WITH AS I AM THE OTHER ONE. THE DEAL ABOUT THE FENCING. YEAH. IT WOULD JUST DIVIDE THAT WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY INTO THIRDS, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. IT'S THE INTENSITY OF THE USE WHICH NECESSITATES THE THREE STOREY BUILDING BACKING UP AGAINST THE CLUSTER HOMES. IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN IN THAT A STAIR STEP BACK DESIGN MIGHT HAVE SOFTENED THAT SOMEWHAT, AND THAT WAS WHERE MOST OF THE CRITIQUES WERE ON FROM THE PEOPLE. NOW THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CRIME AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. LET ME JUST RELAY A STORY. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON TO MANY YEARS AGO, WE HAD A CASE ON SHILO COME THAT BACKED UP TO RESIDENTIAL AND WE HAD A FULL CROWD AND THEY WERE GONE. WELL, THERE'LL BE CRIME, THERE'LL BE SNIPERS IN THE ROOFS AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THING. AND ABOUT FIVE YEARS LATER, THEY CAME BACK TO DO THE SECOND PHASE AND NOT A PEEP FROM THE NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE IT'S A QUIET AND GOOD USE. AGAIN HERE. MY CONCERN IS THE. YOU KNOW, BE INTERESTING TO DO SOME SHADOW STUDIES. ARE SOME OF THOSE HOUSES GOING TO BE IN CONSTANT SHADOW BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN I HAVE AND PROBABLY WON'T AFFECT MY VOTE, BUT IT'S A CONCERN THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAN LOOK AT AND COUNCIL CAN HERE AND MAKE A DETERMINATION. YEAH, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE PLACED THE BUILDING FAR ENOUGH AWAY WITH OUR FIRE LANE AND THEN ADDITIONAL SETBACK, PLUS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE TO THE NORTH ALSO. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH A LOT OF THE MARKET, BUT YOU COULD GET A USE HERE THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD HATE. OH, YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND SO AT LEAST WE'RE A QUIET USER. WE HAVE NO WINDOWS FACING TO THE NORTH. YOU DID THAT WELL. YEAH. AND THE INTENSITY OF THIS USE IS ABOUT US. YEAH, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF FLOOR AREA, BUT IT DOESN'T CREATE A LOT OF INTENSITY FROM AN OCCUPANT STANDPOINT. AND YOU'RE STILL TRYING THE INDUSTRY IS STILL TRYING TO LIVE DOWN WHAT CAME BEFORE. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, THIS ONE I'M NOT QUITE AS COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY WORK. THANKS. THANK YOU. WELL, THAT'S GOOD. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. JUST A SECOND. MAYBE I DO. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WAS SPEAKING BESIDE HIM? NOBODY. MM KAY. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ONE APPLICATION OR PARTS OF THE APPLICATION IS PRESENTED. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO PROVE ALL THREE PARTS OF THE APPLICATION. THE AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING, THE DETAILED PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHTY. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ONE AGAIN PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF MAY 9TH, WHICH IS A MONDAY NIGHT ON WEDNESDAY OR ANYTHING, I'M I GOT THAT RIGHT THIS TIME. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF MAY 9TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.