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          GOOD EVENING. WELCOMEY 23RD GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. THIS IS THE WORK SESSION PORTION OF OUR MEETING. WHERE ARE WONDERFUL STAFF BRIEFS US ON EVERYTHING. AND THEN AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE BRIEFING, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN PM FOR OUR PUBLIC. 
          HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. GO AHEAD BEFORE YOU START. THIS IS HER LAST MEETING WITH THIS KIMBERLY IS GOING DOWN TO AUSTIN TO WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. YOU SAID CORRECT. BUT WE HAVE APPRECIATED YOU ALL THESE YEARS . WE MAY NOT HAVE SAID SO ENOUGH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ALSO. MM. MM DO ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING MEETING? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. GOOD JOB. THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 22 23 THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO MODIFY THE DESIGN OF THE EXISTING CELL TOWER. THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 1904 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. NB ACREAGE IS 0.2 AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION UP. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED UNTIL THIS IS PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, AND THEN THIS IS FIRE WILL PARKWAY. 
          ON THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF USES ON THIS IS THE FIRST ZONING DISTRICT IS COMMUNITY RETAIL. THIS IS A CBS AND THEN ALSO, THIS IS A RESTAURANT. AND THE REMAINING OTHER SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. TO THE REAR IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 98 21, WHICH IS DEVELOP WITH A SCHOOL. AND THEN THE AS 10. OH, ONE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AND IT'S UM, ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. IN THE PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL CELLULAR SERVICE TO THE AREA. THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA. THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE ALONG PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. AND THIS IS THE RESTAURANT THAT IS LOCATED OFF OF FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY. AND THIS IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SIDE ALONG PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. AND THIS IS THE SCHOOL THAT IS ALONG FAR WELL PARKWAY TO THE EAST. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE USING THE EXISTING ANTENNA ON THE SITE. AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE DESIGN. BY REMOVING THE CONCEALMENT. WHICH IS SHOWN IN THIS EXISTING TOWER ELEVATION. 
          AND WITH REMOVING THE CONCEALMENT. THEY ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL THREE ANTENNAS TO THE SITE. I'M SORRY TO THE EXISTING POLL. ALONG WITH A 30. UM FOOT POLE EXTENSION. UM, BOTH OF THEE PROPOSED IS, UM 70 FT IN HEIGHT. UM, SO IT IS NOT BEING EXPANDED BEYOND 70 FT. GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. THERE IS A. EIGHT FOR I'M SORRY. EIGHT FT. TALL MAY SCREAMS WALL SCREEN, WHICH COVERS THE BASE OF THE CELL TOWER. AND THAT WILL REMAIN. AND SO THE EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PROVISION HAS A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS REMAINING. UM AND THE ORIGINAL S U P WOULD EXPIRE IN 2027. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS TO BE IN EFFECT FOR UNLIMITED TIME PERIOD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTS. BE MAILED OUT. 31 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES. AND CONCLUDES THAT PRESENTATION. 
          COMMISSIONER. UM. HOW IS IT UNUSUAL TO HAVE AN UNLIMITED REQUESTS? SO THE G D. C WAS 
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RECENTLY UPDATED TO ALLOW, UM THE CELL TOWERS WITHIN LIKE, UM , COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT FOR UNLIMITED TIME PERIOD. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES BEFORE THIS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN UNLIMITED CELL TOWER? MHM. UM YES, SIR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER EXAMPLES. I CAN'T LIST THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW IT'S VERY COMMON WITH SOME OF THE G, P AND L AND ANOTHER, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRIVATE ONES AS WELL. BUT AS AS KIMBERLY JUST MENTIONED. THE G D. C WAS JUST AMENDED BY COUNCIL. I BELIEVE I PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION A FEW MEETINGS BACK, BUT WHERE CELL TOWERS AND COMMERCIAL ZONES DO NOT HAVE TO RENEW THEIR S U P AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT ADDING HEIGHT OR EXPANDING, SO THAT KIND OF AN EFFECT MAKES THEM UNLIMITED. SO WE FELT THAT WE SUGGESTED THAT THE APPLICANT THAT UNLIMITED WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY ALIGNED WITH THE WAY THAT LANGUAGE IS. THIS IS A MUNICIPALLY OWNED TOWERS. THIS ONE IS A CITY OF GARLAND OR NO, NO, I BELIEVE IT'S PRIVATE. IT'S PRIVATE, OKAY? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES GETS THIS COUNCIL APPROVES THE UNLIMITED TIMEFRAME. AH! AND THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO SELL THIS FACILITY. 
          AH WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NEW OWNERS HAVE TO GET A NEW ISSUE? P NO, SIR. THAT S U P WOULD BE TIED JUST TO THE SOUTH TOWER JUST TO LAND USE SO IT COULD BE SOLD. IT COULD BE OPERATED BY A DIFFERENT USER AS LONG AS THEY ADHERE TO THE SAME CONDITIONS. THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. CAN'T TIE IT TO THE CELL TOWER. NO, SIR. THE GDC WAS AMENDED ALL I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY ATTORNEY OVER HERE. BUT S UPS WERE CHANGED THROUGH THE G D. C WHERE IT'S TIED TO THE LAND USE RATHER THAN THE APPLICANT OR OWNER THAT USED TO BE SPS USED TO BE HANDLED THAT WAY, RIGHT? I REMEMBER THAT. COMMISSIONER JENKINS JENKINS. EXCUSE ME. UM I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS IDEA OF STEALTH. THIS IDEA THAT BUT WE HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BOTH BY PD AND SCP TWO BECAUSE CONSISTENT WITH A CERTAIN LOOK ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THIS APPLICANTS PROPOSING TO CHANGE UM, THE STEALTH COMPONENT BY REMOVING THE STRUCTURE. UM KEEPING IT QUIETED AND ADDING SOMETHING VERY VISIBLE CONCERNING THE FACT THAT WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A DAYCARE CENTER AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM A PRETTY ACTIVE RESTAURANT. 
          WHAT WAS THE DECISION TO REMOVE THE STEALTH COMPONENT? WHY? WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT? I DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION, BUT MAYBE THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. 
          ALRIGHTY. NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 22 21 THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO ALLOW A SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY FACILITY. FOR, UM FROM THE EXISTING BUILDING. THIS IS THE CASE INFORMATION. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 34 50 WAGON WHEEL ROAD. MB SITE. UM YES, I'M CURRENTLY 7.143 ACRES IN THE SITE IS, UM SOME PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 07 45. THIS IS A CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. THE STAR REPRESENTS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE PROJECT. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED UNTIL THIS IS NORTH GARLAND AVENUE. AND THIS IS WAGON WILL ROAD ON THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF ZONING DISTRICTS. UM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, WHICH IS LOCATED ACROSS FROM THE SITE IS I'M DEVELOPED WITH A TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY. THE PD 03 13 IS DEVELOPED WITH A I'M SORRY. NURSING FACILITY. TO BE MF DISTRICT IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTI FAMILY THE PD 72 23 PD 11 24 HER BOTH DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, AND THEN THE PD. S 21 59 WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. WHAT IS THE 
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SORRY, URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WITHIN THE, UM NEIGHBOR URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS , UM, IS PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT YOU MAY INCLUDE COMPATIBLE NON RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THIS, UM DISTRICT. THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE AREA. THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THIS IS THE SITE ALONG WAGON REAL ROAD, WHICH IS FOR THE SELF STORAGE THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED. THIS SITE RIGHT HERE IS THE NURSING CENTER. AND THEN ACROSS FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE IS TO TELL A COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND PROVIDE A PRIVATE SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY AND THEN ALSO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY ON THIS SITE. THIS FACILITY WILL ACCOMMODATE 148 BEDS. AND THE NUMBER OF BEST WILL FLUCTUATE THE PENDING ON THE CLIENT DEMAND. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THIS SITE. WHICH WOULD BE GENERAL BUSINESS WILL TAKE PLACE FROM EIGHT A.M. TO SIX P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. 
          AND FOR A CLIENT INTAKE, IT WOULD BE. NINE A.M. TO 99 A. M TO NINE P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, AND THEY WILL ALSO ACCEPT ADMISSIONS 24 7. ON THE SIDE ON THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE 50 TO 55 STAFF MEMBERS DURING THE DAY AND THEN FOR THE OVERNIGHT STAFF. IT WOULD BE 25 TO 30 MEMBERS. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. UM. SO THERE ARE. TWO INTERNAL COURTYARDS THAT THE CLIENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY ON THE SITE. 
          AND THE FACILITY WILL PROVIDE A PRIVATE INSTITUTE. WHERE ALL UM PERSPECTIVE CLIENTS WILL VOLUNTEER TO, UM, ADMIT THEMSELVES INTO THIS FACILITY. OVERALL THE APPLICANT IS NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE SITE. THE SITE IS WILL FUNCTION AS IS , UM THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING. ALONG NORTH GARLAND AVENUE, AND IT ALSO WAGON WHEEL ROAD. IN THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY TYPE OF DEVIATIONS FROM, UM THE G. D. C. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS. IN THE FACILITY ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS BUILT IN APPROVED AS A CARE FACILITY AND THE PROPOSAL. LAND USES SILVER SIMILAR IN NATURE, PROVIDING FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CARE. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. WHILE THE SITE PLAN IS A PART OF THE PD CONDITIONS, STAFF HAS ALSO DRAFTED A ADDITIONAL PD CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THE EXISTING INTERNAL COURTYARDS WILL REMAIN ON SITE. AND WE'LL BE SERVED FOR THE CLIENTS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY CONSIDER ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AS APPLICABLE, SUCH AS ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH. BY THE APPLICANT AND ALSO AN ALTERNATIVE ISSUE P TIME PERIOD. BEING MILLED OUT 100 AND EIGHT NOTIFICATION LETTERS. WE RECEIVED 71 AGAINST THE REQUEST. AND THEN TWO IN FAVOR, UM, INSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THEN FOR OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND WE RECEIVED 60 AGAINST AND THE TOTAL RESPONSES WAS 100 AND 34. FROM THAT. 
          CONCLUDE STAFF PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN COMMISSIONER WHAT. DOUBLE 
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HIT THE BUTTON. SO LET ME GET YOU. THERE YOU GO. THERE'S SOME LARGE OPEN LAND. AH CANADA, THE NORTHWEST. WITHIN THE BRICK WALL. THE HAVE. THEY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING ADDITIONAL FACILITIES ON THERE, OR JUST LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS OR THE APPLICANT DID NOT MENTION ABOUT . UM IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT OPEN LAND AND I JUST WONDER IF THEY AND IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, THEY WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING. IF THEY DID, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WONDERED IF THEY HAD MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THEY DID NOT MENTION IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER ART. KIMBERLY ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, UM, WAS THE PRIOR USE. DID IT GO DEFUNCT BEFORE THEY DECIDED TO START THIS PROJECT? WAS THIS A DERELICT BUILDING? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY IT WAS FUNCTIONING AND THEN THEY BOUGHT IT WITH PLANS TO CONVERT IT. THAT I AM NOT SURE I HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT. OKAY AND DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE PLANNING ON HAVING PRIVATE SECURITY? ASSUMING THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING OF SOME SORTS. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE THAT IN THEIR PROJECT NARRATIVE, BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ELABORATE ON THAT. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER JENKINS. UH G D C ONE. OH, ONE QUESTION FOR ME. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO A PD. IS THAT A CHANGE TO THE UNDERLYING ZONING? BUT IT IS A AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IT'S NOT A CHANGE IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING. IT'S JUST A IT'S NOT A MAJOR. DEVIATION OF THE USE THE APPROVED PD. THEY'RE JUST ADDING THE USE TO THE SITE. CLEAR AS MUD. YEAH. OKAY I'M SORRY. KIMBERLY IS CORRECT THAT THE PD, THE CURRENT PD BASED OWNING IS COMMUNITY RETAIL. 
          THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT. THE P D WHEN IT WAS APPROVED. WHEN THAT DETAILED PLAN IS APPROVED FOR THE EXISTING FACILITY, IT WAS TIED. SPECIFICALLY TO NURSING AND ASSISTED CARE ONLY. AND SO ANYTHING BESIDES NURSING HOME OR ASSISTED LIVING REQUIRES AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD. SO SINCE THEY'RE REQUESTING A DIFFERENT LAND USE, WHICH IS THE CARE OF ALCOHOLIC DRUG DEPENDENT OR PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS, THAT IS A DIFFERENT LAND USE PER THE GDC SO THEY'RE ADDING THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THAT THEY HAVE TO AMEND THE PD TO REQUEST THAT AND THEN PART TWO OF THE REQUEST IS YES. YOU PEE BECAUSE IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL BASED OWNING, IT'S ALLOWED BY SCP ONLY OKAY? THANK YOU. LESS. BUDDY WE'RE RISING TO THE SURFACE. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ALREADY. WELL, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 23RD MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. 
          WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH THE PARENT PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, YOUR DECISION TO JOIN OR NOT TO JOIN , AND NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL. SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER LIKE THIS AND DISCUSS ISSUES IN THE FREEDOM THAT THIS UNITED STATES BRINGS US. AND BE WITH THOSE PEOPLE. WHO ARE HURTING HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES. FINANCIAL ISSUES. AND LIFT THEM UP. AND ALSO LOOK AFTER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND GIVE THIS COMMISSIONER WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE TONIGHT. AND WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL AGAIN. THANK YOU AND WELCOME. GOOD TO SEE PEOPLE OUT HERE. USUALLY WE'RE TALKING TO AN EMPTY ROOM WITH WARNING TO PEOPLE. THEY'RE USUALLY STAFF. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I SAW MANY OF YOU OUT THERE SIGNING UP ON THE KIOSKS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP AT THE KIOSK, PLEASE DO SO. AND WHEN YOU SPEAK, UH, STATE YOUR NAME 
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AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORD. WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LET US KNOW. YOU KNOW, SAY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WOULD DEFINITELY ALLOW YOU MORE TIME. AND AFTER EVERYBODY'S HEARD, WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING. MM HMM. 
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READY? LET'S START IN WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONCERNED AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING ON ONE VOTE TO APPROVE. AND I WILL CALL RAID AT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION WANTS ONE REMOVED FOR CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE. THE SAME THING, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TONIGHT BECAUSE CONCERN AGENDA ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAIN 9TH 2022 MEETING. IT'S THE ONLY CONSENT AGENDA. MR CHAIRMAN. THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALREADY SECOND COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGAIN. I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER ART. TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. 
          IN THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW WE'RE INTO, UH, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THIS 
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FIRST ITEM IS A TWO PARTER. ITEM TO A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF OUR MO IS A CROWN CASTLE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. AMENDMENT FOR INTERNA COMMERCIAL. ON PROPERTIES OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1904 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. AN ITEM TO BE CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF AMOROUS CROWN CASTLE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR AN INTERNAL COMMERCIAL USE SAME ADDRESS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT? THE APPLICANT IS HERE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT ANYBODY WON'T NEED A PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. BUT YEAH, YEAH, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME ON DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS AND HIS MICROPHONE, PLEASE. HI MY NAME IS HALEY PACK WITH CROWN CASTLE. MY ADDRESS IS 11908 BAMBERG LEAN IN FRISCO. SOME 5035. YES, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. IS THE APPLICANT, THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR ANTENNA. NO SO THIS IS A CROWN CASTLE CELL TOWER, AND OVER THE YEARS WE ACQUIRE PORTFOLIOS OF TOWERS AND ACTUALLY DO NOT RECALL WHEN RIGHT NOW I CAN GO GRAB MY LAPTOP. IT MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, A SPRINT TOWER ORIGINALLY. UM AND THEN WE ACQUIRE THE PORTFOLIO FROM SPRINT AND SO ON, SO, BUT WE OWN AND MANAGE THE CELL TOWERS. THE DECISION TO, UM REMOVED THE COVERINGS. APPARENTLY IT'S GOT SOME STEALTH TO IT RIGHT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DECISION? YES SO, UM, BASICALLY THIS HAS COME FROM A REQUEST FROM T MOBILE TO UPGRADE THEIR ANTENNAS. AND AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE CARRIERS UPGRADE REGULARLY. UM SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY, UM, PROCESSING THE APPLICATIONS TO UPGRADE. IT'S USUALLY THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY SOMETIMES THAT REQUIRES REPLACING THE ANTENNAS IN THIS CASE, IT REQUIRES ADDING THEM. SO THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY WON'T FIT IN THE CURRENT SOUTH CANISTER. SO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT FIT, WHICH, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO UM, THIS I BELIEVE THIS ONE AND, UM, AND NUMBER OF OTHERS. WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE CANISTER. UM ALREADY AND YOU KNOW, NEXT ROUND OF UPGRADES, YOU HAVE TO EITHER INCREASE IT EVEN FURTHER. OR JUST CONVERT TO A REGULAR MONOPOLIST STYLE, WHICH IS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAW ON THAT, UM, THE PLANS WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE ON THE EXTERIOR, BUT THAT KIND OF SOLVE THE PROBLEM LIKE CONSTANTLY NEEDING TO MAKE THE CANISTER WIDER. UM SO JUST IT'S NEEDED FOR THE UPGRADING TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. HOW OFTEN DO YOU MAKE UPDATES OR UPGRADES TO YOUR TOWERS? SO I WORK ON ZONING AND PERMITTING, AND I SEE THEM COME IN, USUALLY YEARLY. UM UPGRADES FOR THE TOWERS. SO IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE MORE THAT THEY HAD TO INCREASE THE CANISTER WITH. SO UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOWER RIGHT NOW, 
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THERE'S JUST A SECTION OF IT. THAT'S WIDER FROM THE PREVIOUS UPGRADE, AND EVENTUALLY THAT STARTS TO GET PRETTY MESSY LOOKING SO I FEEL LIKE, UM WHEN YOU CONVERT THEM. IT ENDS UP BEING LIKE A CLEANER LOOK IN THE END, AND EVERYTHING IS BEING, UH EVERY IN TERMS OF YOUR LOCAL STATE FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS THOSE UPDATES COME FROM WHATEVER AGENCY PRETTY PRETTY RESPONSIVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES HAVE NEEDED. I'M NOT SURE WHAT CHANGES ARE, SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITHIN THE G D. C IF AN UP DATE COMES FROM ANY NUMBER OF PLACES REQUIREMENT TO MAKE THAT UPGRADE WITHIN 180 DAYS. QUESTION IS PRETTY RESPONSIVE TO MONITORING CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS, AS AS THEY MAY BE, BELIEVE SO IF SOMETHING YOU KNOW AGAIN REQUIRED ANOTHER S U P OR THAT KIND OF THING. WE WOULD DEFINITELY COMPLY WITH ANY , UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. YOU THINK? EXCUSE ME. 
          THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. IS THIS A SINGLE PROVIDER TOWERS AND MULTIPLE PROVIDERS? SO AT THIS POINT, IT IS A SINGLE PROVIDER BECAUSE OF THE SPRINT AND T MOBILE MERGER. SO IT DID HAVE SPRINT T MOBILE ON THAT, UM BUT NOW SPRINT HAS ACQUIRED T MOBILE. SO RIGHT NOW IT IS SINGLE PROVIDER. ZERO PLANS TO ADD PROVIDERS. THERE CAN BE IT REALLY COMES FROM THE CUSTOMERS OR THE CARRIERS AS TO IF THEY WANT TO ADD ON. BUT THERE WOULD BE ROOM TO ADD IF NEEDED, OR IF THEY WANTED TO. SO YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AT THE SAME TIME. AT THIS POINT, THE TOWERS REMAINING 70 FT. UM IT'S JUST IT SOUNDED OR LOOKED LIKE IN THE DRAWINGS EXTENSION BECAUSE THEY'RE REMOVING THE STEALTH PORTION AND EXTENDING THE STEEL POLE. UM SO THAT'S WHAT BUT IT'S REALLY JUST THE SAME HEIGHT AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY SO IT WAS A DUAL PROVIDER BEFORE THE MERGER BETWEEN TEAM. OH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT APPEARED TO ME, UM, THAT BOTH OF THEM EXISTED. BUT YOU KNOW, REARRANGING EVERYTHING AND THE MOBILE. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT TWO ANTENNA ARRAYS ON THIS TOWER. AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE SECOND IF THEY NEEDED TO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. 
          COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING JUST CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. EXCUSE ME. WELL I SAW COMMISSIONER PARIS CHIMED IN. SO YEAH. TWO SECONDS SO MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PAIRS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ONLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IN THEIR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALREADY WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ALRIGHT I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING OF THE LAND DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE A STEALTH COMPONENT. THAT WAS APPARENTLY SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE. UM UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT SOME EARLIER TIME, HOWEVER, I WOULD REALLY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THAT SELF COMPONENT REMAINS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO I TAKE CARE CENTER AND THE RESTAURANT AND THE OTHER ITEMS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. I'M STILL FOR THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE IT. AH YOU KNOW, BE PUBLIC THAT THAT SOUL COMPONENT REALLY LEND TO THE CHARACTER AND AH! MAY MAKE PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. CHANNEL ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER ART. AND A LITTLE MORE COMMENTARY ON IT. THE SELF COMPONENT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS ABOUT 120 FT. FROM A STREET BEST . I CAN FIGURE HER SOMEWHERE AROUND. NO ACTUALLY 400 FT. I'M SORRY I LOOKED AT IT DIFFERENT, BUT THE DISTANCE ON THAT. I'VE SEEN SOME OF THEM THAT ARE A LOT MORE. BOLD THAT ARE. BETTER THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE STEALTH COMPONENT BOTHERS ME AS MUCH, BUT IT WOULDN'T KEEP ME FROM FROM VOTING FOR IT. I DON'T THINK THE UNLIMITED S U P ON IT. 
          I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL, BUT APPARENTLY WE'VE ADOPTED THAT CITYWIDE. BUT, UM. I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD I WOULD BE OPEN TO SUPPORTING IT. EVEN YOU KNOW, AS PRESENTED HMM. READY. MY ONLY 
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COMMENT WOULD BE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT USED TO BE TALLER, SKINNIER ANTENNAS. BUT WITH THE CHANGE OF FREQUENCIES, MAYBE THE INTENTIONS ARE SHORTER AND WIDER AND MORE OF THEM AND, UH AND THEY'VE ALREADY MADE ONE AMOUNT OF OCCASION TO KEEP IT STEALTHY, I GUESS BY EXPANDING IT COULD END UP LOOKING LIKE A GOLF BALL OR SOMETHING IF THEY HAVE TO DO TOO MUCH. AND WE'VE GOT ONE GOING UP RIGHT BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO NOTICE THAT THE FIRST MONTH AND AFTER THAT IT WILL BE. IT'LL FADE INTO THE BACKGROUND. I THINK. ALRIGHT ANY ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR MOTION? TO MR DALTON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE ARE FACED WITH EXPLAINING TECHNOLOGY. NO. TWO WAYS AROUND IT. FIVE G ON TOP OF REGULAR CELL SERVICE IS IN DIFFERENT FREQUENCY BANDS AND BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY. AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE WARNING THIS, THE MORE REPEATERS SELF HUMP CELL COMPANIES HAVE TO PUT UP. 
          IN THEIR LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF THOSE THAT CAN BE ON A SET OF ANTENNAS. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET BETTER COVERAGE OR MORE ADDITIONAL COVERAGE, ADDITIONAL NUMBERS OF CHANNELS THEY'VE GOT AT ANTENNAS. SO IT'S WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THIS AS TIME GOES ON, AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST FIVE G CELLPHONE TABLET. WHAT HAVE YOU UM. I WISH THEY WERE PRETTIER. BUT I ACCEPT WHAT THEY ARE. AND I CANNOT VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION. CAROL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ART. I COULDN'T GET TO MAKE MOTION BUTTON TO WORK, OKAY, TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS REQUESTED, INCLUDING THE UNLIMITED TIME. WE HAVE MOTION. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND? MOTION BY COMMISSION, DALTON'S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TO PROVE THE APPLICATION HAS PRESENTED FOR THE UNLIMITED TIME. ANY MORE DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASTOR UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALREADY. OKAY WE'VE GOT ONE ZONING CASE LEFT, AND I SEE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS HERE TONIGHT. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, I USUALLY TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE PROCESS AND SOME GROUND RULES AND STUFF SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I WANT TO TELL YOU IS MANY TIMES I AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. AFTER READING THE REPORT AND DOING OUR OWN RESEARCH, WE MAY BE LEANING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. ONLY TO HAVE THAT INCLINATION AT LEANING CHANGED. BY EITHER SOMETHING THE APPLICANT SAYS OR SOMETHING, CITIZENS SAY. SO WE ARE OPEN MINDED HERE AND WE DON'T MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS UNTIL WE HEAR EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS HERE EVERYTHING AND WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES IS. WE'RE HERE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT AND RECOMMENDATION. TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE LAND USE AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE USE, AND THERE'S A SAYING WE ZONE THE LAND, NOT NOT THE PEOPLE AND WE STRIVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS USING OUR LOGIC, OUR EXPERIENCE. AND THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF EXPERIENCE AMONG THIS COMMISSION. AND THE EVIDENCE AND WHAT EVERYBODY PRESENTS TO US IN THE TESTIMONY. AND WITH THAT THE COUNCIL EXPECTS THE COMMISSION TO GIVE HIM THE BEST THOUGHTFUL , NON POLITICAL ADVICE WE CAN AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE MAKING A FINAL DECISION ON THIS CASE IN A FEW WEEKS. YEAH, WE WANT TO HEAR ALL PERTINENT AND NEW INFORMATION. SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED A LOT OF IF YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM REPEATING TESTIMONY. YES STATE. YOU GO AHEAD AND AGREE WITH WHAT THAT PERSON SAID. THAT WAY, WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IN QUICKER. AND COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS OF YOU SO STICK AROUND. AND ONE THING I DO ASK IS PLEASE NO OUTBURST OF APPLAUSE OR JEERS. IT DISRUPTS THE MEETING, AND WE CAN'T HEAR EVERYBODY AND WE'RE HERE TO HERE TO HEAR EVERYBODY. THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT FORMS OF HERE. SORRY. AND IF YOU WILL ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION THAT THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, UH, WE'RE HERE TO TAKE ALL THE GRIEF AND EVERYTHING OKAY? AND MY GOAL IS TO HAVE AN ORDERLY MEETING OR ALL CAN HAVE THEIR SAY. AND WE CAN BE FULLY INFORMED TO MAKE 
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THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE. NOW AFTER THE TESTIMONY, WE WILL PROBABLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WE DID FOR THE LAST CASE. AND SO NO MORE INPUT WILL BE HAD UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER HAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT OR A SPEAKER. SO I'LL REMIND YOU, PLEASE US. UM SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND NAME AND ADDRESS AND I DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A 
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THREE PARTER. CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD 0 7-45. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 34 50. WAGON WHEEL ROAD. ITEM TWO D CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR CARE OF ALCOHOLIC DRUG DEPENDENT OR PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS. INSTITUTIONAL USE. THIS PROPERTY IS SAME LOCATION ITEM TO E CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN GUARDIAN RECOVERING NETWORK REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR CARE OF ALCOHOLIC DRUG DEPENDENT. FOR PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS. INSTITUTIONAL USE AGAIN AT 34 50 WAGON WHEEL. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. MHM. MAXWELL FISHER. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER WITH MASTER PLAN TO 595 DALLAS PARKWAY. FIRST GO TEXAS 75 075034, REPRESENTING GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK. WE ALSO HAVE JOSH SCOTT AND MIKE ROCKS WITH GUARDIAN. UM JOSH WILL ACTUALLY BE DOING A BIG PART OF THE PRESENTATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESENTATION AND KIND OF GO THROUGH WHO GUARDIAN IS AND THEIR THEIR THEIR FACILITY AND HOW THEY TREAT PEOPLE. UM AND I ALSO HAVE MY COLLEAGUE HERE, WEST HOBLIT, WHO RECENTLY PURCHASED A HOME IN FORT WORTH NEXT TO ONE OF THESE NEAR ONE OF THESE FACILITIES WHO ARE KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, HIS SELECTION PROCESS AND ANY ACTUALLY VETTED THIS FACILITY AND DID SOME INTERVIEWING AND BEFORE HE ACTUALLY BOUGHT HIS HOME. UM SO WE KIND OF GIVE IT A LITTLE TESTIMONY ON ON ON THAT PROCESS , AND THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS , I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ON A PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITY VERSUS A PRIVATE HEALTH FACILITY. THIS IS A PRIVATE HEALTH FACILITY. 
          EVERYBODY HAS TO. IT'S VOLUNTARY . EVERYONE HAS TO CHECK THEMSELVES IN. YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE TO GO TO THIS FACILITY. IT'S NOT COURT ORDERED. A JUDGE DOESN'T DOESN'T SEND YOU TO ONE OF THE FUN OF THESE FACILITIES. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING, AND THERE'S MISCONCEPTIONS AND THINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS AS WE GO. SO THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE TO GUARDIAN, UM, FOR A FEW REASONS. ONE IT'S IT WAS THE FORMER BELLA BALLOT VALLEY ESTATE, AND SO IT WAS A FORMER SENIOR LIVING FACILITY ASSISTED NURSING HOME FACILITY, SO IT'S A LARGE BUILDING. IT CAN FULLY ACCOMMODATE NOT ONLY THEIR ALL THEIR ROOMS AND BEDS, BUT IT'S ALSO HAS A LARGE COMMON AREAS. IT ALSO HAS TWO LARGE INTERIOR COURTYARDS IN THE COURTYARD AS GOOD AS BECAUSE THAT OUTDOOR SPACE IS KIND OF PART OF THEIR RECOVERY PROGRAM THAT THEY USE. 
          AND SO THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED TO HAVE ANYBODY TO BE OUTSIDE OF THIS FACILITY, SO THEY'LL CHECK IN THEY'LL BE IN THE BUILDING WILL BE WITHIN THE INTERIOR COURTYARD UNTIL THEY LEAVE. 
          THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO GO OUTSIDE THE FACILITY. UM IT IS VOLUNTARY SO THEY COULD WALK OUT ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HOLD ANYBODY HERE. IT'S NOT A VASILY WERE HOLDING PEOPLE THERE. UM THE PLAN IS TO LEAVE THE BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE RELATIVELY OUR REMOTE. BASICALLY THE SAME. THERE WOULD BE SOME NEW SIGNAGE. OF COURSE ON THE BUILDING. THE INTERIOR WILL BE FULLY REMODELED TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, GUARDIANS NEEDS. UM THIS WOULD BE ROUGHLY $14 MILLION INVESTMENT 10 MILLION FOR THE LAND AND BUILDING AND $4 MILLION THEY WOULD PUT INTO INTO THE FACILITY. ONE ITEM. A CLARIFICATION. UM IS THAT WE ARE ASKING, WE WOULD ACTUALLY ACTUALLY LIKE TO ASK FOR AN S U P FOR 30 YEARS INSTEAD OF 20 YEARS. UM WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM 20 VERSUS 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A BAD OPERATOR, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A BAD OPERATOR AND IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR 20 TO 30 YEARS REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND WITH AN S U P REQUEST, THE COUNCIL CAN REVOKE, OR AT LEAST BRING UP A HEARING TO REVOKE AN S U P AT ANY TIME IF WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF OUR OF OUR CONDITIONS, AND SO THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT WE LIKE TO LEAST REQUEST THAT COMMISSION AND COUNSELORS IS TO ASK FOR 30 YEARS. SO IN TEXAS, UM THERE'S ONE OF THE WORST STATES FOR, UM FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAMS WERE RANKED 40TH 
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IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT PER PERSON. AND THEN WE'RE RANKED 50 51ST, ACTUALLY, IF YOU COUNT D C AND ACCESS TO THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES, AND PARTICULARLY NORTH TEXAS HAS HAD A COUPLE OF FACILITIES CLOSE OVER THE YEARS, WHICH HAS MADE IT EVEN EVEN THAT MUCH LESS OF SUPPLY AND AVAILABILITY FOR THESE FOR ANY TYPE OF FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. 
          THERE IS A HOSPITAL THAT'S PLANNED, UM BY U T SOUTHWESTERN , BUT IT'S SEVERAL YEARS OUT OUT FROM TODAY. SO UM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITY, BUT ANY BOTH TYPES OF FACILITIES ARE, UM ARE THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE IN THE AREA AND THERE'S A THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND IN NEED. 
          SO I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THESE DIFFERENCES. UM WE DON'T EXCEPT FOR FORENSIC ADMISSIONS, WHEREAS JUDGE ORDERED FORENSIC ADMISSIONS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITY. PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITY. PEOPLE USUALLY STAY LONGER THAN A MONTH. MUCH LONGER OR AVERAGE. STAY IS 23 TO 28 DAYS AGAIN. VOLUNTARY ADMISSIONS ONLY. YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE TO GO TO THIS FACILITY. WE HAVE A FULLY OR FULLY TRAINED STAFF OF EXPERTS AND THE PUBLIC FACILITY. THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED, AND MAYBE NOT AS WELL TRAINED BECAUSE YOU'RE IT'S PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE. PUBLIC IS ALSO TYPICALLY UNDERFUNDED. UM AND OUR FACILITY WILL BE FUNDED WELL TO ACCOMMODATE THE HIGH LEVEL AMENITIES AND THE PROGRAM THAT WILL OFFER IT COST ABOUT $1000 A DAY A NIGHT. TO BE IN THIS FACILITY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE 20 TO $30,000 TO BE IN THIS FACILITY AND LIGHT AND SOMETIMES INSURANCE COVER SOME OF THAT, AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. SO THESE A LOT OF ARE A LOT OF OUR PATIENTS ARE ARE PROFESSIONALS. 
          THEY'RE DOCTORS OR LAWYERS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD A $30,000 STAY IN A MONTH, BASICALLY A 20 TO 25 DAY PROGRAM . UM I THINK OF IT AT LEAST BEING A LAYMAN AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS, UM, THIS INDUSTRY, UM, NOT REPRESENTING THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS BEFORE. WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF THIS THIS REQUEST WHEN THE WHEN THE CLIENT CALLED AND SAID HEY, WE'RE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THIS FACILITY HERE. I SAW A COUPLE SCHOOLS AROUND AND SO RESIDENTIAL NOT KNOWING MUCH ABOUT HIM LIKE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. I'M LIKE THERE WAS ONLY CASES IN GARLAND. I'M NOT. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A LOT OF ENEMIES. BUT THE MORE I LEARNED ABOUT THIS FACILITY AND ABOUT THIS OPERATOR, THE MORE I GOT BEHIND THIS USE, AND I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT USE FOR THIS PROPERTY AND IT WILL FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT WOULD BE A VERY QUIET USER. IN FACT, I THINK IT WOULD BE QUITE USER THAN THAN A NURSING HOME OR ASSISTED LIVING JUST BY NATURE THERE. UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF AMBULANCES THAT GO TO THAT FACILITY WAS BASED ON YOU KNOW THE AGE OF PEOPLE THERE, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE EVEN QUIETER. SO UM, I THINK THAT'S THAT SUMS UP THE PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC. WELL I WILL. I WILL STOP THERE AND I LET JOSH SCOTT COME UP AND KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE NEXT SLIDES AND TALK ABOUT UM WHEN THEY PROCESS SOMEBODY IN AND THEN THE PROGRAMS AND THEN PROCESS OUT JUST TO HELP GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF NEIGHBOR THEY WOULD BE, AND I'LL BE. I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS LATER AT THE END. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN. YEAH. AND IF YOU'LL JUST STATE NAME AND ADDRESS SURE GETTING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JOSHUA SCOTT AND THE CEO OF GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK. MY ADDRESS IS 33 33 SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE, SUITE FOUR. OH TO DELRAY BEACH, FLORIDA. UM AM I CLICKING THROUGH THIS? ZERO. MM HMM. GREAT. UM. SO YEAH, FIRST OFF. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS FORUM. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL OUR STORY AND WHO WE ARE, UM, I FOUNDED GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK 15 YEARS AGO. UM, IT WAS MYSELF AND ONE REGISTERED NURSE. 
          WE TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HELP INDIVIDUALS. THAT WE'RE IN CRISIS. AND RESISTANT TO TREATMENT AND WORK WITH THE FAMILY SYSTEMS AND MOTIVATE THE INDIVIDUALS TO ACCEPT HELP AND CREATE TREATMENT PLANS. SINCE THEN, GUARDIAN HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY TODAY. WE HAVE OVER 400 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE NINE FACILITIES OPERATING IN SIX STATES. UM. WE PROVIDE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT AND CO OCCURRING DUAL DIAGNOSIS FOR VARIOUS, UM, MILD TO MODERATELY SYMPTOMATIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES. UM. OUR TREATMENT MODALITIES. ALL OF OUR FACILITIES ARE MANAGED BY AN ADDICTION PSYCHIATRIST. THAT IS, OUR EXISTING FACILITIES ARE PSYCHIATRISTS. THAT IS ON SITE IS TRIPLE BOARD CERTIFIED IN ADDICTION MEDICINE. UM, AS MAXWELL SAID, OUR FACILITIES AS THEY DIFFER FROM PRICE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITIES ARE FACILITIES ARE, UM. THEY'RE VERY WELL STAFFED. THEY TEND TO FEEL A BIT MORE HIGH END. UM WE MAKE 
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SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS INTO THE PROPERTIES. WE BUILD AN EXPERIENCE WHERE IF I NEEDED TREATMENT OR A FAMILY MEMBER OF MINE NEEDED TREATMENT. THAT WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE I'D BE COMFORTABLE SENDING THEM. THAT'S OUR GUIDING FRAMEWORK AS WE AS WE BUILD PROGRAMS. UM. FAMILY THERAPY, PSYCHO EDUCATION GROUPS, EXPRESSIVE THERAPIES, EXPERIENTIAL THERAPIES. THERE'S A VARIETY OF TREATMENT MODALITIES THAT WE USED TO MOVE SOMEONE THAT IS SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE DISORDER INTO A PLACE WHERE WHERE THEY ARE, UM ON THE PATH TO RECOVERY. UM. AGAIN I'M THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER. WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG TEAM, UM FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. UM WE HAVE A CHIEF NURSING OFFICER , UM, MISS SMITH, WHOSE OUTSTANDING OUR CHIEF CLINICAL OFFICER IS A GENTLEMAN BY NAMED RYAN. SUAVE. UM, UM KEEP MOVING THROUGH THIS. MM CARE PROVIDED UM. AT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE DETOXIFICATION AND RESIDENTIAL CARE. DETOXIFICATION IS TYPICALLY A 5 TO 7 DAY PERIOD WHERE SOMEONE IS MEDICALLY SUPERVISED. UM BY A DOCTOR IN 24 HOUR NURSING FACILITY WILL HAVE A DOCTOR IN 24 HOUR NURSING. UM AND THAT DETOXIFICATION PROCESS. IS TO MANAGE THE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THAT SOMEONE MAY EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON DRUGS AND OR ALCOHOL. UM THERE ARE CERTAIN WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THAT ARE DANGEROUS LIFE THREATENING. IF NOT, THEY'RE CERTAINLY VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY MANAGE THOSE WITH MEDICATION AND MEDICAL SUPERVISION. AFTER CLIENTS OR DETOX. THEY STEPPED DOWN TO THE RESIDENTIAL LEVEL OF CARE, WHICH IS WHERE THE TREATMENT BEGINS. WHERE WE GET TO THE UNDERLYING CAUSES ADDRESS. FAMILY ISSUES, ADDRESS UNDERLYING DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY. UM AND IN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROGRAM IS WHERE PROGRESS IS ACTUALLY MADE TOWARDS RECOVERY. UM. THE GARDEN LOCATION WILL HAVE NO OUTPATIENT SERVICES. WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR OUTPATIENT SERVICES, MEANING NO. DAY TRAFFIC INTO THE FACILITY TO RECEIVE SERVICES FROM THERAPY TO MEDICAL AND THEN RETURNING HOME , SO THERE'S NO TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS WHEN PATIENTS ARRIVE. THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IS GOING TO BE WITH US ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO 45 DAYS. MM HMM. UM CLIENT SUBMIT THEMSELVES FACILITY. UM THEY'RE TYPICALLY DROPPED OFF OR WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION WILL PICK UP IT, UM AT THE AIRPORT, OR THERE'S A CERTAIN RADIUS AROUND THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE WILL PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION. UM CLIENTS DON'T DRIVE THEMSELVES TO THE FACILITY. UM WE DON'T ALLOW CLIENTS TO KEEP CARS ON THE PROPERTY AGAIN. THEY'RE THERE FOR 45 DAYS. UM WHEN THE ADMISSIONS PROCESS ACTUALLY STARTS WITH A PATIENT CALLING INTO A TWO R ADMISSIONS CENTER, AND THERE'S A PRE SCREENING TO DETERMINE IF THE PATIENT IS MEDICALLY PSYCHIATRICALLY. AND OTHERWISE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR PROGRAM. WE CAN HELP THEM AND THEIR AN APPROPRIATE FIT FOR US. 
          UM AND, UM WE AFTER THAT. PRE SCREENING PROCESS WILL COORDINATE ADMISSION. SO THE FACILITIES EXPECTING THAT INDIVIDUAL WE USUALLY HAVE A PRETTY STRONG CLINICAL BACKGROUND ON THE PERSON BEFORE THEY EVEN ARRIVE, SO WE KNOW THE PATIENT AS THEY COME IN. UM UM. 
          IT SAYS HERE, 21 TO 30 DAYS. IT'S REALLY 25. PROBABLY 45 DAYS . UM CLIENT PICK UP THE TRANSPORTATION CAN BE SCHEDULED. THIS IS A FACILITY. THIS IS A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR FACILITIES. SO ALL THE PICTURES IN THESE SLIDES ARE ACTUALLY PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BUILT. UM AND THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE IS , UM, DOES PROVIDE THESE EXACT SERVICES DETOX IN RESIDENTIAL LEVELS OF CARE. I KIND OF ALREADY WALKED THROUGH SOME OF THAT. UM THE INTAKE PROCESS, AS I SAID, IS PRE SCREENED, UM ANDE IS SHOWING UP AT THE FACILITY AND KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND SAYING I'D LIKE TO BE ADMITTED, RIGHT? THERE'S NO SURPRISE ADMISSIONS. UM MEDICAL STABILIZATION 24 7. UM, MEDICAL CARE. CLINICAL PROCESS GROUP WORK, INDIVIDUAL WORK, FAMILY WORK WE BELIEVE ADDICTION IS A IS A CONDITION THAT AFFECTS FAMILIES AT LARGE. AND SO WE 
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PROVIDE A LOT OF SUPPORT TO THE FAMILY SYSTEMS. AS THEY IS THEIR LOVED ONE IS RECEIVING TREATMENT. HOLISTIC SERVICES AGAIN. UNLIKE. UM PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT ARE UNDERFUNDED . UM WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ANCILLARY SERVICES TO PATIENTS TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE MORE HOLISTIC AND MORE ROBUST AND AH, WE FOUND THESE EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES TO INCREASE OUTCOMES AND PROVIDE BETTER LONG TERM RECOVERY FOR OUR CLIENTS. WE HAVE DISCHARGED PLANNING, SO WE MAKE COORDINATED DISCHARGE PLANS FOR PATIENTS. WE WORK WITH FAMILIES. WE WORK WITH EMPLOYERS , AND WE HELP PATIENTS RETURN TO THE COMMUNITY. UM. THE DISCHARGE PROCESS IS ARRANGED BY US AS AS MAXWELL SAID. IT IS A VOLUNTARY FACILITY SO A PATIENT CAN TECHNICALLY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM. UM, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, UM, WE WILL WORK THROUGH MULTIPLE THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTIONS TO TALK WITH FAMILIES TO TALK WITH THE PATIENTS AND HELP THEM MAKE A BETTER DECISION. WHEN SOMEONE TYPICALLY SAYS THEY WANT TO LEAVE. WE ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT REDIRECTING THEM TO CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IT'S JUST THE DISCOMFORT OF THE TREATMENT PROCESS, LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT OR HAVING TO ADDRESS. UM UNDERLYING THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THEM. OUR AVERAGE PATIENTS. 39 YEARS OLD ACROSS ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. SUBSTANCE USE DAILY STRESS BEHAVIOR, HEALTH ISSUES. MOST OF OUR CLIENTS DO HAVE FAMILY SUPPORT. ALL CLIENTS ARE ADMITTED VOLUNTARILY. UM. AND COVERED A LOT OF THIS STUFF. UM, THESE ARE AGAIN PICTURES OF ACTUAL FACILITIES. DENVER, COLORADO, PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY. PLYMOUTH, NEW HAMPSHIRE. UM HOBOKEN, NEW JERSEY. DELRAY BEACH, FLORIDA. PORTLAND'S MAIN THAT DELERY BEACH LOCATION IS IMMERSION RECOVERY CENTER, AND THAT BUILDING IS PROVIDING THE EXACT LEVELS OF CARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE IN GARLAND AT THE WAGON WHEEL ROAD LOCATION. UM, DETOX AND RESIDENTIAL LEVELS OF CARE. UM NEW BRUNSWICK, NEW JERSEY, TAMPA, TAMPA, FLORIDA, A LITTLE TOWN CALLED LARGO AND THE TAMPA BAY AREA. UM THIS IS A SLIDE JUST SHOWING THAT WE ARE AT OUR LOCATIONS OFTENTIMES IN THE PROXIMITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE ARE STRONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED. 
          UM OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM ACTUALLY FLEW ME. THE CITY OF DELRAY BEACH FLEW ME TO NEW YORK TO NYPD TO PRESENT TO A POLICE CHIEFS CONFERENCE. BASED ON A PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED WITH THE PD. WE VOLUNTEERED OUR SERVICES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND PROVIDED AN AFTER NARCAN PROGRAM WHEN PATIENTS ARE REVIVED WHEN INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT OUR CLIENTS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, ARE IN THE MIDST OF AN OVERDOSE, REVIVED BY PARAMEDICS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. WE WOULD COME IN AND PROVIDE TREATMENT, PLANNING AND INTERVENTION SERVICES FOR THE FAMILIES AT NO COST TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE PROGRAM IS SO SUCCESSFUL THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY ON BOARDED THEIR OWN IN HOUSE. NON SWORN OFFICER POSITION. IT WAS THE FIRST IN OUR STATE. THEY HAVE A LICENSED CLINICIAN THAT'S DOING THE WORK THAT WE STARTED FOR THE PD. UM AGAIN. WE ARE GOOD COMMUNITY MEMBERS. UM. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S OUR LOCATION AND LARGO. UM WE ARE ACTUALLY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A PARTICULAR CORNER OF THAT BLOCK THAT WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND WE ACHIEVED, UM, GETTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THERE. THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN. IT'S FACILITY. AH THIS FACILITY IS VACANT. UM WE WERE THERE TODAY AND THE TOUR OF THAT FACILITY. UM THE SECURITY GUARD THAT WAS PROVIDING THE TOUR FOR US TOLD US THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE BREAK INS OF THE PROPERTY WHILE IT'S BEEN VACANT. UM THE CONCERN THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS WHICH I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND ABOUT SAFETY AND FAMILY. UM, WE KNOW THE OPERATION THAT WE ARE AND A RESPONSIBLE SOCIAL SERVICE OPERATION IN THIS FACILITY THAT IS WELL FUNDED, WELL CAPITALIZED AND WELL RUN. WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH SAFER THAN A VACANT FACILITY. THAT IS, UM THAT'S BEING VANDALIZED. MM HMM . FACILITY WILL HAVE ROUGHLY 50 STAFF MEMBERS DURING THE DAY AND 25 AT NIGHT. PATIENTS ADMIT THEMSELVES. WE WILL HAVE SECURITY SYSTEMS IN PLACE. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT. THE QUESTION CAME UP AND, UH AND FROM FROM MAXWELL EARLIER. ARE WE OPEN TO HAVING SECURITY AT OUR FACILITY? DEDICATED 
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SECURITY. AT NONE OF OUR FACILITIES EXISTING DO WE HAVE DEDICATED SECURITY, SO MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE VERY WELL WITHOUT IT. WE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING PATIENTS SAFE. UM AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ISSUE AT ANY OF OUR NINE FACILITIES AND WE'VE HAD OUR BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITIES OPEN GOING BACK 10 YEARS. UM, HOWEVER, UPON ARRIVAL AT THE FACILITY TODAY WITH THE SCOPE OF THE LAND. UM AND THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN VANDALIZED. UH WE ARE VERY OPEN TO, UM AND PLANNING ON HAVING SECURITY ON SITE. ROVING SECURITY AROUND THE PERIMETER INTERNALLY, AND THAT'S MORE TO NOT AND I SAY THIS RESPECTFULLY NOT TO KEEP OUR PATIENTS OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT TO KEEP COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MAY HAVE ILL INTENT TO VANDALIZE THE PROPERTY OR CAUSE PROBLEMS. UM TO KEEP OUR PATIENTS SAFE. AND FOR THAT PURPOSE, WE ARE FOR THAT USE. WE ARE, UM, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE SECURITY. 
          THERE WILL BE SECURITY. UM SYSTEMS. UM, PERIMETER FENCING IS NOT PLANNED, BUT WE HAVE STARTED DISCUSSING IT. UM AND THAT MAYBE A DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO IN. UM YEAH, THE. 
          HOW? HOW FAR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO NEXT MONTH? SURE. SO I STAYED UP HERE. YEAH YEAH, NO PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. AH LET'S JUST SHOWS THAT THE FACILITY AS PLANNING A PARKING WILL PROBABLY USE ABOUT HALF THE PARKING. UM THERE'S 91 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED EVEN IF WE HAVE 45 EMPLOYEES DURING THE DAY. IF WE HAD A FEW VISITORS THAT'D BE 50 PARKING SPACES THAT WE WOULD BE OCCUPYING AND WE HAVE 91. SO, UM, IT'S UM MORE THAN ADEQUATELY COVER OUR HAND OFF. OUR PARKING NEEDS IS ALL THIS IS SHOWING. THERE'S YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, EITHER SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS I MEAN, WE HAVE TRAINED QUALIFIED STAFF. UM YOU KNOW THE HANDLE. UM THE OUR, OUR OUR CLIENTS. STATE OF THE ART SECURITY SYSTEM. TREATMENT IS TOTALLY IN THE BUILDING. I SAID THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY OUTSIDE. WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT A REHABILITATION FACILITY FOR CRIMINALS. UM YOU KNOW, THIS IS THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE, YOU KNOW, DRUG DEPENDENT ISSUES. UM SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. YOU KNOW ANY PEOPLE GOING OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST LOOKING FOR TROUBLE OR TRYING TO TERRORIZE FAMILY MEMBERS? THAT'S NOT THIS KIND OF FACILITY AND FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OF THAT, IN FACT , TO GET A LETTER FROM A MAYOR AND CHIEF OF POLICE. I THINK YOU SAW SUPPORT LAYERS JUST SHOWS YOU TESTAMENT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF OPERATION AND WHAT KIND OF GUY JOSH IS AND I THINK, UM, IT JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT KIND OF FACILITY THIS WILL BE. AND THEN, UM, ONE. IT'LL BE A GREAT ASSET FOR GARLAND HERE. HERE'S THOSE LETTERS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT THESE. UM YOU MENTIONED HIM SOMEWHAT ALREADY? SURE YEAH, I THINK I KIND OF WALKED THROUGH. UM CHIEF, GOLDMAN WAS THE CHIEF OF POLICE WHEN WE OPEN OUR FACILITY AND IN DELAWARE AND WE WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, I WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF AN ORGANIZATION, A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION CALLED THE DOLLAR BEACH DRUG TASK FORCE. UM AND LIKE I SAID, WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM FOR THE DELRAY BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE ACTUALLY GOT NARCAN IN THE HANDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS THE FIRST PD IN THE STATE TO CARRY NARCAN FOR ALL OF ITS OFFICERS, AND I ACTUALLY JUST SAW AN ARTICLE WE DID THAT IN 2000 AND 14, AND I JUST SAW AN ARTICLE. UM TODAY. THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND ACTUALLY JUST PUT NARCAN IN THE HANDS OF OFFICERS LAST YEAR. UM SO WE UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE IN FIGHTING THE OVERDOSE CRISIS AND, UM ALSO THE LETTER FROM THE PALM BEACH COUNTY MAYOR. WE ARE AGAIN AND I'M JUST RESTATING THIS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO BEING ACTIVE AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS TO THE COMMUNITY. THE REASON WHY I'M IN THIS SPACE IS BECAUSE I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FIGHT AGAINST ADDICTION AND 2021 ALONE . WE HAD 100 AND 20,000 AMERICANS DIE OF OVERDOSE. IT WAS THE LARGEST YEAR WE'VE EVER SEEN. TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. SEPTEMBER 11TH 3000 AMERICANS LOST THEIR LIVES. IN 2021. WE HAD. 35 9 ELEVENS. TAKE THE LIVES OF AMERICANS JUST FROM OVERDOSE. UM SO WE'RE NOT HERE JUST TO OPERATE A BUSINESS. WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE A MEANINGFUL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE KNOW THAT TEXAS NEEDS THIS 
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SERVICE AND. AND WE HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR OF OUR PLANS. UM. YEP SO, THANK YOU ALLOWED. YOU ARE A LITTLE MORE TIME BECAUSE I FELT APPOINTMENT. YOU HEAR THE FULL STORY SO COMMISSIONER. OH OKAY. ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD. SORRY I JUST HAVE A QUICK IDEA. VERY, VERY QUICK. MY NAME IS WES HARDWOOD. 25 95. DALLAS PARKWAY. FRISCO, TEXAS 75034. THIS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY JUST PURCHASED A HOME. I THINK AT THE END OF MARCH, SO NEW TIME. HOMEOWNER HOMEOWNER. EXCITING FOR ME ALSO. I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I LIKE IT YET, UM, BUT DOING MY RESEARCH AND BUYING A HOME. YOU KNOW, I THIS I DO ZONING WHEN USED FOR WHIPPING. I LOOK AT APPRAISAL DISTRICTS ALL THE TIME, SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHO MY NEIGHBORS WERE. AND THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS. THESE ARE THE HEALTH AUTHORITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES OF TARRANT COUNTY IMAGE M. R IS ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. 
          THIS IS MY STREET RIGHT NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. ONE OF THE HOUSES. I PROBABLY DON'T TELL YOU. WHICH ONE IS THE NEIGHBOR TO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, AND THE OTHER LARGE SECTION ABOUT SIX HOMES. THAT'S FOR THE CHILD . THE A C H, WHICH IS CHALLENGING. EXCUSE ME FAMILY SERVICES. THEY ALSO DEAL WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES. THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS. I WALKED PAST THESE HOMES EVERY DAY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY MY QUIET, MOST QUIET NEIGHBORS. I HAVE A LOT OF DOGS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME THAT ARE KIND OF LOUD. AND THEN A NEIGHBOR WHO DOES A LOT OF HARD WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING, BUT THEY ARE THE MOST QUIET NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE THEIR RESPECTFUL WE ACTUALLY DID MY RESEARCH. I CALLED THEM CALLED THIS OFFICE CALLED THE HEADQUARTERS. THEY LET ME KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS, I CAN GO TO THEM. IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, THEY REALLY JUST HIT HOME THAT YOU KNOW WE WERE HERE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO YOU. AND I MADE SURE OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW, I WAS A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE TO IT. YOU KNOW, MY WIFE ACTUALLY CONVINCED ME TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. AND SO I WAS APPREHENSIVE. I DID MY RESEARCH. I CALLED THEM AND I MADE MY DECISION AND I BOUGHT MY HOUSE AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE BELOW, THEY ALSO IN FIVE OTHER HOMES. THESE ARE HAULING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN TARRANT COUNTY. SOME OF THEM MUCH NICER THAN MY HOUSE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOP ONE IS ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS AND I AND I HAVE HAD NO ISSUES SO FAR, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE TOO. AND SO, JUSTIN RECAP WHERE PRIVATE FACILITY VERY REPUTABLE AGENCY HAS ACTUALLY CAN TELL FROM JOSH AND THEIR OTHER OPERATIONS, QUIET USER BUILDING AS WELL SUITED FOR IT CURRENTLY, AND WE'RE MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN GARLAND AND THE COMMUNITY TO THE TUNE OF $14 MILLION. AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES SUPPORT OUR REQUEST IN THIS , SO WE'RE READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, AND I'M SURE MAXWELL'S HERE AND CAN HELP YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSION, DALTON THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. EARLY ON. YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. THAT YOU HAVE. I BELIEVE YOU, SAID 400. YES, SIR. DIVIDED AMONG NINE FACILITIES. THAT'S 44 EMPLOYEES PER FACILITY. YET YOU SAY YOU WILL HAVE 44 PEOPLE ON DUTY DURING THE DAY. SO DOES THAT MEAN ALL 44 OF THOSE PEOPLE WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? NO NO, SIR. SOME OF OUR FACILITIES ARE SMALLER, OUTPATIENT FACILITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE INTENSIVE STAFFING NEEDS THAT LOCATION. THIS IS A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. SO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING ROUGHLY 110 TO 120. FULL TIME AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES. UH THE STAFFING PATTERNS DURING THE DAY WILL BE ROUGHLY 50 EMPLOYEES ON 40 TO 50 EMPLOYEES ON STAFF. DURING DAYTIME HOURS, AND THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT WILL BE ROUGHLY 25 SO. TO UH, HANDLE THOSE SHIFTS WE'RE GOING TO NEED ABOUT 100 PLUS EMPLOYEES ON PAYROLL. OKAY? YOU SAID A PATIENT CAN VOLUNTARILY CHECK IN AND VOLUNTARY LEAVE. DOES THAT MEAN THE PATIENT CAN WALK UP TO THE LOBBY TO THE RECEPTION? SAY I'M DONE. I'M WALKING OUT THE DOOR AND YOU HAVE TO LET THEM OUT. TECHNICALLY SIR. YES THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN. UM AND ACTUALITY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT, UM, WHEN PATIENTS ARRIVE. AGAIN IT'S VOLUNTARY. PART OF THE PROCESS FOR THE SAFETY OF PATIENTS IS THE PATIENTS DON'T KEEP VALUABLES. WALLETS UM, UM, JEWELRY GOING LOCKED. BOX AND STORAGE. WHEN PATIENTS WANT TO LEAVE. WE HAVE PATIENTS SIGN ON ADMISSION OF 48 HOUR NOTICE THAT THEY THAT WE ASKED THAT THEY PROVIDE AGAIN. UM IT IS NOT. UM IT IS NOT A FACT OF LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT 48 HOURS, BUT WE ASKED THEM TO SIGN THAT WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND GOOD FAITH. AND THEN THAT GIVES US TIME TO TALK THROUGH MULTIPLE INTERVENTIONS WITH PATIENTS. AND EVEN IF A PATIENT DID SAY, I'M NOT LISTENING TO THAT. I WANT TO LEAVE THEM OUT OF HERE. I'VE HAD 
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ENOUGH. THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THAT PATIENT, UM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO INTERVENE. SO IT DOES HAPPEN, BUT IT IS NOT COMMON. ALSO USE FAMILY TO HELP KEEP THEM THERE. 
          MAKE A DECISION. THAT'S PART OF THE INTERVENTION PROCESS. IT'S UM, WORKING WITH THE PATIENT DIRECTLY WORKING WITH THE FAMILY. UM YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE CALLS TO FAMILY WHEN WE HAVE FAMILY INVOLVED AND HAVE FAMILY COME IN AND TALK TO THE PATIENT ABOUT WHY THEY SHOULD STAY. SO, UM THERE'S A SAYING THAT VIRTUALLY 100% OF PEOPLE THAT GET SOBER OR DOING SO, UM, IT'S SOME POINT RESISTANT LEE PEOPLE DON'T JUST WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND AFTER WINNING WEEKEND AND SAY THAT THEY WANT TO GO INTO TREATMENT, SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE THAT MOTIVATES A PATIENT TO GET SOBER. SO WE TRY TO KEEP THAT MOTIVATION, FRONT AND CENTER FOR THEM. RIGHT THE PATIENT SAYS THEY CAN ALWAYS STOP DRINKING UNTIL THEY CAN'T. YES, SIR. UM EARLY ON MASH WILL BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF CLOSE FACILITIES. ONE WAS SUNDANCE IN ARLINGTON. THE OTHER WAS CHAMBERLAIN PSYCHIATRIC IN DALLAS. MY EXPERIENCE WITH TIMBERLAND PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL BEGAN IN 1974. THEY HAD MHM. OUR LICENSE NUMBER TWO FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. I WORKED FOR A COMPANY THAT MAINTAINED ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS FROM SOUND PAGING NURSE CALLED. I WORKED IN EVERY BUILDING IN THAT FACILITY . I KNEW THE MAINTENANCE STAFF IN THE ADMINISTRATION VERY CLOSELY. THAT WAS CONSIDERED AT THE TIME THE NUMBER ONE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL IN THE UNITED STATES. IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO BE. THE PATIENTS GOT GREAT CARE. THEY WERE TREATED WELL. AND THEY GOT TAKEN CARE OF. PRIOR TO THEIR CLOSING THE LAST TIME I WENT INTO TIMBERLAND PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, I HAD TO BE ESCORTED BY A SIX FT. 6 £300 POLICE OFFICER. BECAUSE IT WAS BEING USED BY THE DELL'S COUNTY INMATE, UM OR THE HOUSE PATIENTS. THAT WAS VERY PAINFUL FOR ME TO SEE. I SO IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, I'M SITTING THERE GOING FROM THE BEST PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL. UNITED STATES TO THAT IS QUITE A DIFFERENT PATH. THAT I NEVER, EVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE HAPPEN. I REALLY DIDN'T I JUST STATING THAT BECAUSE I SAW IT GO DOWN, SO IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF ACID INDIGESTION TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE TYPE FACILITIES SIMPLY FOR THAT REASON. NOW I ALSO HAD A FATHER IN LAW WHO WAS AN ALCOHOLIC. AND WE WENT THROUGH MY WIFE AND I AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY WENT THROUGH. WHAT IT TOOK. TO GET HIM INTO A FACILITY. AND GET HIM SOBER. AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT? WHAT THEY GO THROUGH. IT'S NOT PLEASANT. IT'S REALLY NOT PLEASANT. AND I. WITH THE ABILITY OF WALKING OUT THE DOOR. AND KNOWING WHAT I SAW GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE. IN THIS WHAT I'M SAYING HERE. JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW. BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. AND I HOPE SOMEHOW OR OTHER WE CAN CONTINUE THAT GOOD WORK. POSSIBLY HERE IN GARLAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER ROSE. YES YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE YEAR TENANTS IF YOU WILL HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY I'M LEAVING. I'M WALKING OUT. SIX HOURS LATER. 
          CAN THEY WALKED BACK IN AND BE ANOTHER CLIENT OR ANOTHER PATIENT OF YOURS? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN I COME AND GO? COME AND GO ONCE THEY CHECK IN. THEY STAY THERE OR CAN I COME AND THEY GO AND THEY COME AND THEY GO? NO SIR. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY AND COME BACK IN. THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ENTIRE RE ADMISSION PROCESS, AND IT COULD TAKE SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THEY'D BE APPROVED FOR ADMISSION. WE DO NOT ALLOW PATIENTS TO, UM, AS YOU SAID, COME AND GO FROM THE FACILITY, LIKE GO TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE. THEY COULD OR SOMETHING. YEAH, NO, SIR. THANK YOU. DEFINITELY NOT. ANY OTHER. ADDITIONALLY JUST WHILE IT'S WORTH TOUCHING ON THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY IS CONFIGURED, THESE INTERIOR COURTYARDS ARE ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS FOR US FOR TWO REASONS, ONE BECAUSE IT IT DOES PROTECT THE COMMUNITY FROM, UM FROM OUR PATIENTS, YOU KNOW, WANDERING OFF SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY, BUT IT ALSO PROTECTS THE PRIVACY OF OUR PATIENTS, BECAUSE A LOT OF UM THERE'S A LOT OF SHAME AROUND. 
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ALCOHOLISM AND ADDICTION AND PATIENTS THAT COME INTO OUR FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THESE HIGHER END FACILITIES ARE REALLY, UM, KEEN ON PRIVACY AND BEING AND HAVING THEIR THEIR PRESENCE IN THE FACILITY PROTECTED. THESE COURTYARDS ARE GOING TO DO JUST THAT. AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO INSULATE, UM, OUR PATIENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T SEE THE WAY THIS BUILDING IS STRUCTURED. ANY NEED AT ALL FOR OUR PATIENTS TO LEAVE THE EXTERIOR PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING AT ANY POINT UNTIL THEY DISCHARGE. COMMISSIONER ATG DOWN AND PRESENTING THIS TO US. 
          ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, UM, HOW FAR DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR PATIENT WHAT HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO THIS FACILITY. HOW FAR AWAY DO YOU THINK THEY LIVE FROM HERE? TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS ABOUT 80% OF OUR PATIENTS COME WITHIN A COME FROM AN AREA WITHIN A 2 TO 3 HOUR DRIVE OF OUR LOCATIONS. AND THEN THERE ARE PORTION OF OUR PATIENTS THAT WILL TRAVEL TO OUR FACILITIES FROM ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS HERE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD FACILITY AND OUR TOWN. YOU SHOULD COME HERE WITH YOU KNOW, UNCLE BILL AND AUNT SUE AND DO TREATMENT CLOSE BY AND SO WE DO HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT TRAVELING OKAY, AND I FIGURED THAT THERE WOULD BE FAIRLY CLOSE BECAUSE FAMILY IT SOUNDS LIKE FAMILY IS A BIG PART OF THE RECOVERY AND YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE GROUP THERAPIES AND THINGS THAT YOU PERFORM. CORRECT WE FIND THAT TO BE VERY VALUABLE, OKAY? AND THIS FACILITY IT IS CURRENTLY AND HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN DEFUNCT? AND VACANT FOR I BELIEVE A FEW YEARS . OKAY IT'S NOT RECENT, OKAY? BEEN IT'S BEEN A WHILE. I DON'T KNOW. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE SEVERAL MONTHS, IF NOT LONGER, SURE, SIGNIFICANT DISREPAIR. I MEAN, PART OF THAT $4 MILLION IS JUST TO BRING IT TO YOU KNOW SOME SEMBLANCE OF A DECOR LIKE THIS. IT IS. IT'S REALLY RUN DOWN. SURE. HMM. LET'S SEE. DO YOU THINK THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE PATIENTS THAT THAT GET RELEASED AT NIGHT? NO, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE DURING THE DAY. WOULD WOULD PATIENTS EVER BE DISCHARGED. AND, YES, UM. I MEAN , THEORETICALLY COULD HAPPEN IF A PATIENT WAS BEING PICKED UP IN THE ONLY TIME THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING WHEN A PATIENT IS DISCHARGING AS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE AS A AS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER TO HAVE A SAFE DISCHARGE PLAN FOR THE PATIENT, SO A SAFE DISCHARGE PLAN MEANS A SAFE PLACE TO GO AND A SAFE WAY TO GET THERE. SO WE MAKE THOSE COORDINATED PLANS WITH FAMILY WITH THE PATIENT. UM AND I WOULD SAY 95% OF THE TIME, IF NOT MORE . I CAN'T THINK OF AN INSTANCE WHERE SOMEONE DISCHARGES AT NIGHT. THEY HAVE TO FLY OUT AND THERE THEY FLEW INTO THE FACILITY AND THEIR FLIGHT AND THEY'RE TAKING A RED EYE OUT THAT WE WOULD TAKE THEM TO THE AIRPORT IN THE EVENING, SO IT'S POSSIBLE BUT NOT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S PLANNED AND IT HAS A AND IT HAS A HE COULD POSSIBLY BELIEVE AND HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S ACCOMPANYING THEM. TAKE HIM TO THE AIRPORT OR WHATEVER, COORDINATING THEIR THEIR LEAVING OF THE FACILITY. BUT, UM, I'M IMAGINING WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD THINK OF WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. SOMEBODY WHO DECIDES I'M JUST DONE WITH THE PROGRAM SO, MOREOVER, NOT JUST IF THERE WERE AN EXCEPTIONAL NIGHT DISCHARGE, EVENING DISCHARGE, WOULD THAT PATIENT BE ACCOMPANIED IN PLANNED? OUR DAY DISCHARGES ARE LIKE THAT. THERE'S A AN ACCOMPANYING, UM, FAMILY MEMBER OR STAFF TRANSPORTING THEM. PATIENTS AREN'T LEAVING BY THEMSELVES. UM AND WE ARE PLANNING THOSE THOSE DISCHARGES. THE PATIENT DOES WANT TO LEAVE, THEN WE ARE AGAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING A SAFE DISCHARGE PLAN IN PLACE. LETTING FAMILY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW YOUR LOVED ONE. IS REFUSING ANY AND ALL CONTINUED CARE AND WE NEED TO MAKE PLANS TO HAVE THEM PICKED UP. SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WENT TO THE HOSPITAL. YOU HAD APPENDIX SURGERY. YOU CAN'T YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE YOURSELF HOME AFTER YOUR AFTER THAT'S COMPLETED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU GO TO THE HOSPITAL FOR APPENDIX SURGERY, AND YOU WANT TO RIP THE CORDS OUT AND STOMP OUT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE LOBBY. THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT TRY AND STOP YOU, BUT LEGALLY, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO. SO THAT VOLUNTARY THAT'S A GREAT, UM, CORRELATION THAT VOLUNTARY ADMISSION IS THE SAME WITH OUR FACILITY, OKAY? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN VACANT TWO 
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YEARS IN JUNE. OKAY? EXCELLENT. OOPS SORRY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE. YES YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS BEING VERY USABLE BY YOUR CLIENTS. YOU HAVE A BIG SECTION OF OPEN LAND NORTH AND WEST A LITTLE BIT. EVER SEE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO THAT DIRT THAT GRASS? IT'S REAL PRETTY RIGHT NOW. THEY DON'T GUARDIAN HAS NO PLANS OF EXPANDING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY ABOUT THAT, THAT YOUR CLIENTS UTILIZING THAT LAND OUT THERE. WELL THERE'S A PICNIC AREA, FOR INSTANCE. POSSIBLY UM , THE MANAGER OF THIS PROPERTY IS THEY'RE ALL CONTROLLED IN THAT COURTYARD AREA. UM BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AND COME BACK AND ASK AGAIN. WE WOULD LOSE SOMETHING BY DOING THAT, AND THAT OUR PATIENTS HAVE PRIVACY AND SO WE WOULD BE LOSING PRIVACY BY TAKING THEM INTO UNLESS WE DID SOME TERRIFIC FENCING, OR, UM, AROUND THAT SECTION, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR THAT. WE HAVE OF ANOTHER QUESTION. THE APPLICATION, SAYS THE 20 YEAR. I THINK I HEARD NOW YOU WANT A 30 YEAR? WHY YOU MEAN? WHY DID THE CHANGE OR WHAT? I THINK THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR 20. I THINK WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH WILL ABOUT WHAT THE STANDARD WOULD BE FOR THIS KIND OF FACILITY. IF THERE IS A STANDARD BECAUSE THESE FACILITIES DON'T COME UP THAT OFTEN. SO UM, WE REALLY NEED 30 MAIN REASON. WHY IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A FACILITY THAT INDEED IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD IN A YEAR OR NOT ? AND BASED ON YOU KNOW WHAT WE HEARD? I THINK IT'S YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH IT. 
          BUT THE MAIN REASON IS THE FACT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING $14 MILLION ON, YOU KNOW, NOT IN THE LAND, BUT IN FORMULATING THE FACILITY. AND SO THERE'S LENDING . AND THERE'S THINGS THAT, UM, THAT LENDERS REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEIR THEIR, YOU KNOW, LENDING MONEY TO AND PUTTING AN INVESTMENT IN THAT THAT THAT'S THERE'S GONNA BE A LONG TERM BUSINESS PLAN WITH THAT. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE LEAST TERM IS ABOUT 20 TO 25 YEARS AND ALL THEIR FACILITIES AS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND SO IT WOULD. IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THAT WITH THAT AND ASKING FOR THE 30 FROM A LENDING STANDPOINT, AND JUST FROM THE OTHER FACILITIES ACROSS THE BOARD, SO WE WOULD LIKE 30. IF THAT'S BUT THAT'S IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONS YOU MENTIONED THE LEASE TERM. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OWN THIS FACILITY. WE ARE WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT ON THE FACILITY. 
          RIGHT NOW. OKAY? YEAH THEY WOULD BE PURCHASING THIS. THIS ONE. YEAH YOU SAID LEAST TERMS. ON THEIR OTHER FACILITIES. THEY HAVE LEAST TERMS. NOT THIS ONE. COMPANY LEASES. OUR PARENT COMPANY CAN PURCHASE THE FACILITY AND THEN LEASED TO THE OPERATING COMPANY AND THE OPERATING COMPANY, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE PARENT COMPANY LEASES FROM THE PARENT COMPANY. 
          AND THAT LEASE. UM. IS A FACTOR AND GOING TO LENDING AND FINANCING AT TIMES. SO IF THIS IS APPROVED AND PASSED ON THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPROVES IT. LET YOU SAY FOR 30 YEARS AND YOU'RE MADE A COMMENT THAT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IN A YEAR OR TWO. 
          LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL. WHAT HAPPENS? THE POINT. I MEAN, THE BUILDING WOULD GO DARK. LIKE IT IS NOW. YES, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN UNDERSTANDING THE S U P. I BELIEVE RUNS WITH THE LAND. UM YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GUARDING WOULD BE OKAY IF THE S U P RAN WITH WITH THE OPERATOR AS OPPOSED TO THE LAND. UM BECAUSE THEY'RE A GOOD OPERATOR, AND GARLAND KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE GETTING WITH THIS APPLICATION AND THE CONCERN WOULD BE WHO WOULD BACK FILL THAT SPACE. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME LEGAL UM, RAMIFICATIONS. I THINK THAT ATTORNEY WOULD WANT TO TALK TO YOU ON THAT. THE UNDER GDC AND ALSO JUST IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW WITH RESPECT TO ZONING. AH! S U P RUNS WITH THE LAND. UH HUH. 
          THE COMMISSION ZONES LAND AND NOT PEOPLE. I DON'T ZONE PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES WE ZONE LAND. 
          IT'S INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE OR IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE LAND. USE WHETHER I OWN IT OR YOU OWN IT. 
          OR HE OWNS IT. IT'S AN EITHER INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE OR NOT INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE, AND ACCORDINGLY WE DON'T RUN AS UPS. OTHER THAN WITH THE LAND. I THINK THERE ARE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS FACILITY THAT, UM, ALIGNED WITH A PRIVATE, A PRIVATE FACILITY OWNER BEING INTERESTED IN WHERE A PUBLIC FACILITY IT'S NOT THAT REALLY SET UP FOR THAT. I'M SURE JOSH CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES. BUT, UM THERE AREN'T A LOT OF YOUR TYPE OF 
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BUSINESS OUT THERE. I IMAGINE THAT UM, NO, NO, I SUSPECT THERE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL. I MEAN, THERE'S A HUGE NEED AND THEIR HIT SHOW A TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS, AND NOW THERE'S NO GUARANTEES. BUT UM THIS IS ABOUT AS MUCH OF A GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL HERE. AS OPPOSED TO SOME AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF COMPETITION. OR MAYBE AN OPERATOR THAT SUSPECT. THANK YOU . WELL UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND WILLIAMS, THEN BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING, SIR. THANK YOU AND THE AUDIENCE FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. UM I GOT THREE QUESTIONS TO A PUBLIC POLICY. WHEN IT'S BLACK LETTER. YOU CAN ANSWER ANY OR YOU WISH. I'LL JUST KIND OF OUT THERE. THE FIRST QUESTION IS YOU HAVE MENTIONED YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR A LANDSCAPE. SCREENING MASONRY WALL THAT COULD BE UTILIZED THAT PORTIONS OF THE FACILITY YOU'VE ALSO INDICATED SOME INTEREST THIS EVENING FOR THE USE OF SECURITY. IS I AM HEARING THAT CONSIDERATION ON THE TABLE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. LET ME JUST TWO OR THREE. THERE'S AN EXISTING MASONRY WALL THAT SEPARATES OUR ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WITH WITH THE RESIDENTIAL. UM IT'S JUST A TWO PORTIONS, PROPOSING ANY ANY ADDITIONAL MASONRY WALLS . WOULD IT BE ON THE TABLE IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT IF WE NEEDED TO CONSIDER SCREENING ELEMENTS ON THE STREET OR WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO TWO, ADDING ADDITIONAL SCREEN, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A MASONRY WALL. WHERE WHERE ONE WOULD BE REQUIRED. THANK YOU. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE TABLE. THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SHARE ANY, UM POSITIVE STORIES THAT RELATE TO INCIDENTS AT A FACILITY AND HOW YOU HAVE LEARNED TO RESOLVE. UM, THOSE INCIDENTS. AND THIRD IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS, AND THIRD IS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE WELL ENDOWED WITH RELATIONSHIP BUILDING WITH LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS. ARE YOU WILLING TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS AND THE AREA AND BEGIN THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING NOW, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY FOR AN OPPORTUNITY. TO EXPRESS KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. LET ME GO TO THE LAST QUESTION FIRST, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. THE SECOND QUESTION I NEED TO THINK ABOUT UM WHICH IS WOULD WE BE OPEN NOW TO, UM ESTABLISHING RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL PD AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES? ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY. WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. ADDITIONALLY IN THE WORK THAT WE DID WITH THE DOLLAR BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AGAIN, UM THERE WAS A SUCCESSOR TO MY ROLE THERE, WHICH WAS A PRO BONO VOLUNTEER ROLE. UM THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S IN THAT ROLE NOW HAS BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS. SHE'S A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER. SHE'S THE ONLY NON SWORN OFFICER ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PAYROLL. UM SHE NOW HAS A TEAM OF TWO OFFICERS UNDERNEATH HER. THAT HELPED HER CARRY OUT THE WORK THAT WE STARTED. UM IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THAT MODEL AND THROUGH THE DELRAY BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT ROLLED IT OUT AND OTHER PDS AROUND THE COUNTRY USING THE TEMPLATE THAT WE BUILT. AND USING, UM, YEAH, I WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP, BUT I WOULD ALSO BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING THE DELRAY BEACH P. D S EXPERIENCE AND HAVE THEM BE A RESOURCE FOR LOCAL PD HERE. AND EVEN MORE SO. AH AGAIN. VERY RESPECTFULLY HAD YOU NOT ASKED. 
          WE WOULD STILL LOOK TO DO THAT, UM AS FAR AS HOW WE'VE RESOLVED. UM AN ISSUE AT A FACILITY A POSITIVE STORY. UM WHEN I THINK OF POSITIVE STORIES, I THINK OF I THINK OF. HELPING FOLKS ESTABLISH A TURNAROUND OF RECOVERY. ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS WORK IS WHEN PATIENTS COME IN, THEY'RE OFTEN TIMES AT THEIR ABSOLUTE WORST, THEIR THEIR LOWEST POINT. UM AND. WHEN PATIENTS FOLLOW A PROGRAM REMAIN ABSTINENT AND START TO DO WORK ON THEMSELVES AFTER 30 60 90 DAYS THERE ARE MIRACULOUS. HEALINGS. RECOVERIES UM AND THESE INDIVIDUALS LOOK LIKE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I MEAN THE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES ARE 
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JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KEEP BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES, BUT BEFORE AND AFTER IMAGES ARE UNBELIEVABLE. SO WHEN I THINK IT'S SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES I THINK OF THAT TO THINK ABOUT ISSUES THAT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE RESOLVED. UM I DON'T. I MEAN, I CAN THINK OF RESISTANT PATIENTS THAT WERE STEADFAST ON LEAVING BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT'S SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND CONSIDER THE COMMISSION. WHERE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT INTERVENING WHERE WE'VE HAD PAID WHERE WE'VE HAD FAMILY COME IN. UNANNOUNCED TO THE PATIENT. THE PATIENT SAYS THEY WANT TO LEAVE. WE SAY, WELL , YOU KNOW, WE TRY AND DO OUR WORK AND THEY'RE STILL RESISTANT AND THEN WE'LL BRING IN THE FAMILY AND HAVE THE FAMILY AND A FAMILY MEETING ROOM AND WE'LL TELL THE PATIENT. YOUR FAMILY IS HERE AND THEY'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR PLANS AND WILL FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION AND WILL HELP YOUR FAMILY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE. AND THEN YOUR FAMILY CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THEN WE SIT. THOSE FAMILY INTERVENTIONS DOWN. AND WHEN THOSE, UM, ARE EFFECTIVE IT'S REALLY COOL. YOU CAN SEE SOMEONE. TURN THE CORNER FROM BEING UNWILLING, AND THEN THEY SEE THE FAMILY THERE IN PERSON AFTER SIX OR SEVEN DAYS IN TREATMENT, AND THEN THEY BECOME WILLING TO GET HELP TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN . AH TWO QUESTIONS, REALLY? THREE THE MINIMUM AGE. YOU HAVE A MINIMUM AGE. YES, SIR. 18 18. 
          AND UH, I BELIEVE STAFF TOLD US THAT THERE WAS 134 BEDS. UM THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY BUILT FOR MORE BEDS THAN THAT WERE WHAT WE THINK 1, 48 AND THERE IS EVEN MORE BEDS THAN THAT. AND MORE ROOMS AND BEDS IN THAT IN THE BUILDING. WE'RE GOING TO REPURPOSE SOME OF THOSE ROOMS FOR ADDITIONAL LOUNGE, SPACE, LIFESTYLE SPACE AND ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES. WE LIKE TO HAVE MORE STAFF THAN THE BARE MINIMUM FOR A FACILITY. WE LIKE TO BE OVERSTAFFED BECAUSE IT GIVES US MORE HANDS ON DECK. ANY TIME WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE THAT YOU KNOW THAT ARISES. SOMEONE WANTS TO LEAVE. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES, SO WE'RE PURPOSELY DECREASING THE SPACES. AH! USEFUL CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE MORE OF THAT STUFF, LIFESTYLE, SPACE AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES . BUT THE NUMBER WE THINK IS 1 48 RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE NOT WELL , WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO JUST PACK THEM AND JUST KEEP PACKING A MAN PACKING THEM IN PACKING THEM IN. THERE'S A SOME SORT OF A FIGURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO STOP AT 1 48. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST THIS REQUEST. I WANT YOU TO TELL ME DO YOU AND YOUR PERSONAL OPINION. DO YOU THINK THIS FACILITY IS A SAFE PLACE BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THAT FACILITY? AND AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED, I DO ABSOLUTELY. YES SIR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PIERCE SAID YOU CHIMED IN. DID I CUT YOU OFF BY ANY CHANCE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSE ARE THERE ANY FACILITIES SIMILAR IN OPERATION? IN OUR STATE ANYWHERE LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, THEY'RE NOT THAT YOU OWNED IT ANY SOMEBODY OWNS IT. IN OTHER WORDS. THERE IS A. NOT EXACTLY LIKE THIS. 
          THERE IS THERE IS A PROGRAM TO MY KNOWLEDGE. LET ME CLARIFY, THEN THE HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE. AND WE'VE ALSO, UM YOU KNOW, IN THE 15 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE FIELD, WE HAVE A BIT OF A WELL REGARDED NATIONAL REPUTATION. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROVIDERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. UM THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED LA HACIENDA. UM THAT IS A PRIVATE FACILITY. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED BURNING TREE RANCH, UM, BURNING TREE RANCH HAS A 12 MONTH MINIMUM. UM AND THEY ARE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF OUTSIDE OF TEXAS. I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF DALLAS. UM BUT THEY DO NOT PROVIDE DETOXIFICATION SERVICES THEY HAVE THEIR CLIENTS RECEIVED DETOX IN A FREESTANDING FACILITY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. ACTUALLY THERE IS ANOTHER FACILITY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. THAT I DO KNOW OF, UM, CALLED B. R C. AND THEY PROVIDE DETOX AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES, BUT NONE IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA THAT I'M AWARE OF. THIS MAY WELL BE UNIQUE. TO THE DFW METROPLEX AREA. YES, SIR. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ADVERTISING PROGRAM. UH HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THE WORLD IF YOU WILL KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE HERE IF IT IS WILL WORK THROUGH LOCAL EMPLOYERS, UH, EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. WE WILL WORK THROUGH COMMERCIAL INSURANCE COMPANIES. BLUE CROSS 
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BLUE SHIELD, UNITED BEHAVIORAL, HEALTHCARE, UM, OPTIMUM TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE WILL BE CREDENTIALED WITH ALL THOSE FACILITIES. WE ALSO AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES CARRY WHAT'S CALLED A JOINT COMMISSION ACCREDITATION, WHICH WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED FOR HOSPITALS . ONLY 17% OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY . UH ACHIEVE A JOINT COMMISSION STANDARD. WE ARE JOINT COMMISSION ACCREDITED AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. UM SO WE WILL HAVE THAT ACCREDITATION. THERE'LL BE CERTAIN THINGS THAT DISTINGUISH US, UM AND THEN, UM, WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A BIG ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN. UM WE WILL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL HOSPITALS AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PATIENTS COMING INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY HOSPITAL PATIENTS, BUT THEY ARE SUBSTANCE USED STORE PATIENTS OVERDOSE PATIENTS, UM, AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BUILT THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE NOW. THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY? AS USUAL. I DO A LITTLE BIT OF MY HOMEWORK BECAUSE, LIKE MR FISHER, I REALLY WASN'T YOU KNOW, FULLY INFORMED AND THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES AND AFTER THAT I CAN SAY WE HAVE JUST COUPLE 100 YARDS OUTSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ASSISTED LIVING. I THINK IT'S GOING FINE. NO, BUT I WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE WITH YOU GOING IN THERE. IT'S BETWEEN A MOSQUE AND THE POWER STATION AND DATA CENTER AND ANOTHER CHURCH. SO THERE'S NO SCHOOLS NEARBY. SO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION DOES GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN. BUT MAYBE YOU CAN LEAVE ME THROUGH SOME OF THIS. I GET THE IMPRESSION AND I DID GO TO YOUR SITE AND LOOK AT IT, AND I GOT SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT WEBSITE. THIS THIS WILL BE YOUR BIGGEST FACILITY. CORRECT, OKAY? DO YOU DEAL WITH ANY ANGER, MANAGEMENT OR VIOLENCE AND REHABILITATION? THOSE KINDS OF PATIENTS? UM HMM. UM. WE DO PROVIDE COUNSELING AROUND, UM INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE POTENTIALLY ANGER ISSUES, BUT WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAD AND NINE FACILITIES. I CAN ONLY THINK OF, UM ONE INCIDENT THAT WAS A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION BETWEEN PATIENTS, AND IT WAS QUICKLY DISRUPTED AND THAT WAS AT AN ACTUALLY AN OUTPATIENT LEVEL OF CARE AND NOT AT AN INPATIENT LEVEL OF CARE. THE INPATIENT LEVEL OF CARE. YOU TEND TO FIND THE PATIENTS TO BE MORE OF A COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY'S THEY'RE KIND OF ON THE SAME SHIP AND ON THE SAME MISSION ON THE SAME JOURNEY. UM SO THE COMMUNITIES TEND TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF EACH OTHER. UM BUT WE DO HAVE. THE HIGHEST CALIBER OF THERAPISTS TO WORK WITH PATIENTS ON ALL SORTS OF ISSUES FROM DEPRESSION. ANGER UM LOW SELF ESTEEM. ANXIETY WHAT HAVE YOU BEING PRIVATE? YOU CAN PROBABLY FILTER SOME OF THAT VERSUS PUBLIC WERE COURTS WOULD JUST SHIP YOU SOMEBODY WITH MAJOR ANGER MANAGEMENT ISSUES. YES SIR. WE'RE IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS THAT'S PART OF OUR PRE SCREENING PROCESS IS AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW? DO THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF WHAT'S THE WORD? UM, YOU KNOW, RESISTANCE TO AUTHORITY OR OR VIOLENCE IN PUBLIC OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THEN WE WOULD DECLINE ADMISSION. WHAT ABOUT CARS? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR CARS OR CANADIAN DRIVE THEIR CAR? THEIR CHECK THEMSELVES IN? NO, SIR. IN CASE THAT'S PART OF YOUR POLICY. THAT'S PART OF OUR POLICY AND PROTOCOL. I'VE DESIGNED ASSISTED. I'M AN ARCHITECT BY TRADE. I'VE DESIGNED ASSISTED LIVING AND THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR. CONTROLLED ACCESS. BUT. YOU PLANNING ON HAVING ALARMED DOORS, CONTROLLED ACCESS, UH, WORK WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL TO HAVE ALARMED DELAY DELAY EGRESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THIS BUILDING IS SO ATTRACTIVE AND SO WELL SUITED FOR US, OKAY? AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR MR BETS IF I MAY. UM IN TERMS OF PUTTING CONDITIONS ON A P D. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PUT A CONDITION LIKE NO OUTPATIENT SERVICES? I THINK THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE ON THE S U P RIGHT? NOT ON THE PD THAT CONDITIONS ON THE SUV. THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE. YOU CAN PUT YOU CAN PUT UNDER THE G D. C. YOU CAN PUT ANY CRITERIA TO SAFEGUARD AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. OKAY, SO YOU HAVE VERY BROAD AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU PUT ON SCP. UH AND IF YOU IF YOU TELL ME THAT WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN MIND, I CERTAINLY CAN TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL GO THROUGH. TWO MORE HERE. UM COULD WE RESTRICT THEM TO WEAR? NO PATIENTS ARE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING WALLS. UNLESS THEY'RE YOU KNOW, BEING CHECKED 
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IN OR CHECKED OUT BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WOULD KEEP THEM IN THE COURTYARD THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS A CRITERIA NECESSARY TO SAFEGUARD AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. YOU CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT. OKAY COULD WE PUT THE 18 YEAR OLD MINIMUM AGE? FOR AN OCCUPANT ON THERE. I THINK THAT YOU CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT IF YOU BELIEVED IT WAS NECESSARY TO SAFEGUARD AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, AND THIS MAY BE THE LITTLE TRICKIER ONE COULD RESTRICT IT TO A PUBLIC. AND PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC. COULD WE RESTRICT PUBLIC USE OF IT. GOT YOU ON THAT ONE, HUH? I KNOW THOSE TWO BUSINESS MODEL AND EVERYTHING BUT. MHM YOU CAN LIMIT THE OPERATION AND FUNCTION OF THE USE. THE HOURS OF OPERATION THINGS THAT I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT YOU COULD COULD LIMIT THE OWNERSHIP IN TERMS OF HOW THEY YEAH, WE COULDN'T LIMIT THEM TO NOT TAKING COURT APPOINTED. CASES OR ANYTHING. YOU COULD. YOU COULD LIMIT THEM IF YOU BELIEVED IT WAS NECESSARY FOR VOLUNTARY ADMISSIONS. ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. THE JUDGE SAID. YOU HAD TO GO TO SOME PLACE LIKE THIS OR YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL. THAT WOULD BE A VOLUNTARY DEAL VERSUS AS OPPOSED TO THE JUDGES WHO SAY YOU ARE GOING TO GO AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADMITTED AGAINST YOUR WILL. WHICH I DON'T THINK THIS FACILITY IS WHAT THEY HAVE MIND. BUT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT FUTURE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WOULD PUT IN THE S U P. THESE FOLKS ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT BUT SINCE IT GOES WITH THE LAND, SO IF YOU WERE TO IF YOU WERE TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS NECESSARY CRITERIA TO SAFEGUARD PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE. AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TYPE OF USE BETWEEN VOLUNTARY AND INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENTS. I THINK THAT YOU COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF THE S U P ALRIGHTY. 
          OKAY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. I'M JUST LEAVING UP. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL GO. BUT WE'RE LEAVING ALL THE HAPPINESS. I DID. LOOK AT YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU'VE CLEARLY EXPLAINED VOLUNTARY AND YOU'VE TAKEN AN OUTPATIENT. I O P OUT OF THE PICTURE. AND APPARENTLY, WE CAN DO THAT BE A CONDITION OF THE SPECIAL USE PROVISIONS. AND WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING IS RESIDENTIAL INPATIENT DETOX. WOULD IT BE ALSO PHP PARTIAL HOSPITALIZATION. NO SIR. PARTIAL HOSPITALIZATIONS TECHNICALLY AND OUTPATIENT LEVEL OF CARE. OKAY, SO, UM, WE ARE NOT UM POSITION FOR THAT AT THIS LOCATION AT ALL. I'M LEARNING ALL THIS AS I GO ALONG, TOO. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT YOU'VE CLEARED UP THE PARK REQUIREMENTS SINCE THE PATIENTS AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE CARS. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF PARKING SPACES. OKAY AND I DID LOOK AT YOUR OTHER FACILITIES TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANYTHING. EVEN SIMILAR LOCATION WISE. YOUR DENVER. IS IN DENVER. YOUR. CURE WEST GUARDIAN FACILITY. IT'S IN HOUSE AND OUR PATIENT. IT'S PART OF AN LARGER, MUCH LARGER OVERALL MEDICAL COMPLEX. YES, SIR. THERE IS A SCHOOL TO THE SOUTHWEST. BUT IT'S A COUPLE 100 YARDS AWAY. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND THERE IS RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE MAJOR HIGHWAY, BUT NONE OF THE KIDS WILL BE WALKING PAST YOUR FACILITY OR TO GET THERE, SO IT'S CLOSE. BUT NOT QUITE IN FLORIDA. YOU'RE DELRAY BEACH. IT'S PRETTY WELL ISOLATED BETWEEN A FREEWAY MAJOR STREET AND INTER COASTAL WALKWAY, SO IT'S NOT REALLY IN A SIMILAR DEAL. NOW YOU'RE CURIOUS SOUTH AND LARGO. IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL KIND OF AROUND IT. BUT IT'S A SMALL FACILITY THERE ONLY 12 PARKING SPACES. SO HOW MANY PATIENTS DO YOU HAVE IN THERE? 18 18, SO THAT'S A MAGNITUDE OF ANIMALS. ONLY ABOUT 10 15% OF AND THERE'S NO SCHOOL NEARBY. 
          NOW, ONE THING I DID NOTICE ON THAT BETWEEN 2011. AND NOW I'M ASSUMING IT WAS A CONDITION OF YOUR PD. THERE'S A FULL SIX FT WALL SURROUNDING YOUR FACILITY, AND I THINK IT MAY EVEN BE CONTROLLED ACCESS GATES AT THE DRIVEWAY. WAS THAT A CONDITION OF THE S U P TO PUT IN THE WALL. 
          NO SIR. WE OFFERED THAT TO THE CITY OF LARGO AND THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THAT FOR THE COMMISSION TO PUT THAT RESTRICTION OF USE WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST UM, A SUBSTANCE USE PROVIDER, SO THE COMMISSION WAS ADVISED AGAINST IT, BUT WE FELT THE NEED FOR IT TO BE DONE REGARDLESS JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE PATIENTS. YEAH WELL, I DON'T GET INTO THAT PART OF IT. AH! IN PORTLAND'S MAIN, THERE'S DEFINITELY A COMMERCIAL AREA, AND I THOUGHT IT IRONIC AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DO CONTROL YOUR PATIENTS IN AND OUT BECAUSE CATTY CORNER YOU'VE GOT A MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AREA. RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY CATTY CORNER TO THAT 
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FACILITY. THERE'S A LITTLE SMALL RESIDENTIAL DOWN THE STREET BUT AGAIN. NOTHING QUITE AND PRINCETON U. S HIGHWAY ONE, AND IT'S NICE LADY COMMERCIAL AREAS AND MATTER OF FACT, WALL STREET JOURNAL OFFICES ACROSS THE STREET. IN PLYMOUTH, NEW HAMPSHIRE BETWEEN THE FREEWAY AND A MAJOR ROAD ISOLATED AGAIN A SMALL SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. QUITE THE SAME THAT SITUATED BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS IN SCHOOLS WHERE KIDS ARE WALKING BY AND IF THIS WERE TO GO, I WOULD ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL PUT HIM A WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. KEEP THINGS IN. SELF THAT'S BEEN MY RESEARCH ON IT. MR CHAIRMAN TO THINGS AGAIN. IT IS ON THE TABLE FOR US TO PUT A WALL AROUND AND AGAIN, UM, SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION ASKED BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY. AND THE WALL WE ARE. WE ARE ACTUALLY WE ARE OPEN TO THAT , AND WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT INTERNALLY. LET ME CLARIFY THE OFFENSE. CORRECT I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A SCREENING WALL ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL BOUNDARY, BUT TYPICALLY, WE WOULD I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO CASTLE WALL AROUND A COMMERCIAL PROBLEM. 
          LARGER FACILITY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SIX FT MASONRY WALL. PAINTED WHITE. THERE HAVE TO BE SPACE FOR THAT, AND OH, YEAH, YOU YOU'VE GOT THE SPACE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF CONTROLLED. ACCESS AND CONTROL CONTROLLED EGRESS OF THE COULD DO THAT WITH AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY. I'M TALKING CONCEPT NOW. DETAILS CAN COME LATER. WE WE DON'T NEED TO, UH, PICK THE WHOLE PIE RIGHT NOW. AND THE OTHER THING IS, UM WILD THIS UM, SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. AH! WOULD BE UNIQUE TECHNICALLY IN OUR PORTFOLIO ON SOME LEVEL ALL OF THE ELEMENTS TOGETHER AT THE SAME PLACE WE ARE. WE DO HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS. WE DO HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          BUT THE KEY THING THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT IS THAT AS ALL THESE FACILITIES ARE EXAMPLES, AND MAYBE POOR EXAMPLES OF THIS EXACT LAYOUT, THEY ARE GREAT EXAMPLES OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES THAT WOULD CAUSE THE PROBLEM. AND THE LAYOUT LIKE THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES OF, YOU KNOW, COMING AND GOING OF PATIENTS. WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES OF UNCONTROLLED DEPARTURES. WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF MITIGATING AND MANAGING ALL OF THAT. AND ONE OF THE MITIGATION FACTORS AS IF THEY HAVE A I GUESS I'LL CALL IT A PROBLEM. UM, CLIENT AND THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE. THEY'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA CALL THE AUTHORITIES. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET THAT I MEAN, THERE'S A LIABILITY. THERE'S SOMEONE IS LEAVING THEIR FACILITY. THEY WOULD CALL THE PLACE IN BLACK. HEY WE HAVE THIS PERSON THAT LEFT AND THEY DON'T WITH THEIR LITTLE LITTLE ON, UM ARE THEY ESCORTED AND. SOMEBODY STAYS WITH HIM UNTIL A PERSON PICKS HIM UP, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LEAVING ON THEIR OWN. YES SIR. NOBODY'S LEFT ALONE. 
          OKAY YEAH. AND SO WE DO HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS KIND OF THE AGE WHERE SOME OF THESE THINGS START TO HAPPEN. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HERE THINKING AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE DRUG SUPPLIERS HANGING AROUND YOUR PLACE TRYING TO GET DRUGS TO YOUR PATIENTS OR ANYTHING WHERE THERE WOULD BE APPROACHING KIDS AND STUFF, RIGHT? UM, NO, SIR. NOT NOT IN OUR EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE LETTERS, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR KIDS WALKING BACK AND FORTH IN FRONT AND WHO THEY MIGHT RUN INTO GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THIS. FRANKLY, IF A PATIENT WANTED TO CONTINUE TO USE THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT PASSED OVER A WALL INTO OUR FACILITY. THEY CAN LEAVE THE FACILITY. RIGHT UM, AGAIN WERE VOLUNTARY, SO JUST BY VIRTUE OF PATIENTS, PRESENCE AND TREATMENT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO RECOVER. AND GRANTED ON DAYS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, WAX AND WANE UP AND DOWN, BUT, UM, I THINK BEFORE THE TEMPTATION OF, YOU KNOW, FACILITATING A DRUG DEAL WITH SOME OUTSIDE UM, YOU KNOW, PARTY THERE BE EASIER TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S A KEY BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. YEAH, YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON. SENSE IT'S A VOLUNTARY DEPARTURE YOU MENTIONED IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO LEAVE. UM WOULD YOU TREAT IN THE ELOPEMENT DIFFERENTLY THAN SOMEONE ACTUALLY GETTING UP THERE AND TALKING TO YOU AND MORNING TO WALK OUT THE DOOR. UM YEAH, I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUOTE YOUR QUESTION MR. COMMISSIONER I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MAXWELL TOUCHED ON IF WE HAD AN ACTUAL ELOPEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, UM. SOMEHOW FOUND THEIR WAY OUT WITHOUT STAFF INTERVENTION. THEN WE WOULD NOTIFY PD IMMEDIATELY. 
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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY THANK YOU. AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BERNIE. AND I APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY WHOSE NAME I MISPRONOUNCED. I AM VERY GOOD AT DOING THAT. AH! WERE YOU, WES HOBLIT. DID YOU ALREADY SPEAK? OKAY UH, CASES DEVELOP. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, JUST CALL OUT WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST, BUT. JESSE OR JESUS SALAZAR. 17 13 HIGHGATE PLACE GARLAND, TEXAS IN THE NORTH. 
          WEST SIDE. AND THE FACILITY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INTO. I GOT TO EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER FACILITIES. THERE'S ONE SOUTHEAST OF DALLAS CALLED SECOND CHANCE. REHAB. MY SON WENT THERE. AND HE WAS DOING WONDERFUL. YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT GOD AND ALL THE SENSE HE HAD COMMITTED BY DOING ALCOHOL. AND THEY ADMITTED A. CONVICT FROM PRISON INTO THE FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT HIM IN THERE, BUT HE GOT INTO AN ALTERCATION WAS MY SON THAT KICKED HIM OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. HE WALKED OVER TO SOME BLACK FOLKS ARE RIGHT SIDE DRINKING, AND LUCKILY THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HIM. THAT LADY MAKE A PHONE CALL TO ME. SO HERE I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TRYING TO PICK HIM UP. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T RECOVER IN 2.5 MONTHS. YES, THEY'RE SOBER WHEN THEY LEAVE. BUT IT TAKES LONGER THAN TOO MUCH. TAKES YEARS TO RECOVER. AND, UH, WHEN THEY THROW YOU OUT. YOU'RE OUT THERE. IN LIKE I SAID. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO. YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BREAK BREAK INTO PLACE. MIGHT BE A NO LADY BY ME. 
          IT MIGHT BE ME. AND HE'S NOT GOING TO WALK OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE. THANK YOU, THOUGH. UH ON. ONE I MAY HAVE THAT WRONG. I APOLOGIZE. H A. N H. OKAY? ALRIGHTY. SORRY I'M GOING TO SAY FIRST. MY NAME IS JIMMY TRAN. MY ANSWER IS 23133 WILL RUN BY GARLAND, TEXAS 75040 DISTRICT ONE I'M HERE TO TRANSLATE BY THE REQUEST OF MR JENNIFER WIN. AS SO HE MIGHT. THE VILLAGE A SOMETHING. PUTTING DALBERT DONE. 
          YEAH. OH NGUYEN BUBBLE MUST ANGRY. SOUTHERN 5044. SO IT'S HER NAME IS HONEY WINS. HE WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE. ON LOOK. QINGHAI MOVIE YOJIMBO. GOD. HANGS UP AND. COME DOWN WITH LANGGENG. MCCOLLOM. YEAH TRICKLING YULIYA. DOWNLOAD. THEY KNOW THAT SEEKING HELP ME HOME NOW. C COME HERE AND ALSO WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE PEOPLE HERE COME HERE TO SAY THAT THEY'RE AGAINST THE AGAINST THIS DECISION TO USE THIS, UM A ABUSE SUBSTANCE FACILITY FOR THIS PURPOSE OR REHAB CENTER. BECAUSE THEY AH, DON'T FEEL SAFE. WHEN THAT FACILITIES OPERATING. JACK CLING, YOU BALANCE. YES, BUT BUILD OUT NEW YEAH. DOING HELP 
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LAMONT HANG APPROVINGLY. ENGLAND THOUGHT THAT. CANON. FROM THE. SO ON HER NEIGHBORHOOD. UM IT'S PEACEFUL NOW. THEY ARE SURROUNDING WITH THE SCHOOLS, TEMPLES AND CHURCH. THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM OH, AND RETIRED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES. SO AUDIO DON'T FEEL SAFE. IF THIS FACILITY IT IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE, AND THEY HEAR THE REQUEST. UM, COMMISSIONS. TWO DECLINES. UM UM, THIS FACILITIES TO OPERATE. TIME NOW ALLOW YOUNG BYNUM. DRUG CLUB AND THE INCOME KENYANS WHO GO USE. DADDY. ENGLAND JOHAN GANG. YES. BOTH LIKE A MARKET. OY. SANGUINE. 
          SCENES UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN THERE. THEY LIVED THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS. VERY PEACEFUL. 
          SINCE THEY RECEIVED THIS NOTICE. UM, HAVE FAMILIES. NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY IS THEY ARE. NOT AT EASE. UM NOT SLEEP, UM OR ADD TO AT NIGHT. SO AGAIN, THEY REQUESW AND THIS CAREFULLY. YEAH DOCTORS IN THE OKANAGAN. SAME SEX LIKE OKAY. NEW NGAWANG MCCOY. IN THE MARKET CLAM TOO. OH, YEAH. 
          THANKS. MARA FEINMAN GAY BUT HOME LIFE, MAURA. BRITAIN HAD A GINGOLD. COME ON, COME ON. 
          AGAINST THE, UM, ALSO REQUESTS. TO REVIEW CAREFULLY AND NOT ALLOWED, UH, THIS PROCESS TO GO ON. AND HE WAS A THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENER. YOU. NO. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS SPEAKER REQUEST? GET THE GOVERNMENT. QUIET. MANET AIN'T BUT DIDN'T COVER THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. AND, UH, KAYLA HONG. YEAH NYALA. AH 35 33 LANGUAGE GROWTH TEXAS 75 YEAR OLD FOR, UM, OUR HOME. RIGHT FRONT OF THE FACILITY JUST CROSSED THE STREET. DAILY EVERY DAY I BRING MY SON TO THE SCHOOL BUS AND GET MY SON OFF RIGHT FRONT OF THE FACILITY. UM SO WE DON'T FEEL SAFE. AND DON'T FEEL PEACEFUL AT ALL. UM. SIMILAR WITH ALL THE, UM IN FROM OTHER THINGS, OUR NEIGHBOR HAND ALREADY MENTIONED. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JUST A COUPLE MORE THINGS IN MY HEART. UM. SO WHEN WE DON'T FEEL SAFE TO LIVE EVEN WE PARTLY WE TRY TO SELL THE HOUSE TO GET OUT OF THE THING IS GOING ON, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WACO OR WHAT IS GOING ON. SO WHEN WE THOUGHT THAT, AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO SELL THE HOUSE. AND THEN WE DON'T THINK SOMEONE WILLING TO BUY IT IF WE DON'T FEEL SAFE TO LIVE. WHO WILL BE WILLING TO MOVE IN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO SURVIVE. MY MOM SING. WE LIVE. WE GOT THE LETTERS. REGARDING ABOUT 
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FACILITY WILL TURNING THE, UH, ABUSE REALLY SOFT SUBSTANCE REBUILT RECOVERY FACILITY. SHE COULD NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT. SHE COULD KEEP TELLING ME I KEEP HER CALM BY, I SAID. JUST, YOU KNOW, GO STEP BY STEP. QUIT FURTHER HEARING. WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES. WE RECEIVED THEM LETTERS. THEY HEAR FROM US. IF THEY DON'T. MHM LISTEN, YOU KNOW OUR VOICE WHY THEY SEND OUT THE EMAILS WHILE THEY SEND OUT THE LETTERS. SO JUST CLOSE IN WHAT IS GOING ON? JUST BE PATIENT. 
          THAT'S WHY THE FIRST HEARING WAS CANCELED. WE STILL ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY. JUST BE PATIENT. WE WAITING FOR THE HEARING THEY NOT COMPLETELY CANCEL THE JET RESCHEDULE. WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO RAISE OUR VOICE. USUALLY I GET OFF WORK AT SEVEN. BUT TODAY VOLUNTEERING TO GET OFF A QUICK EARLIER TO MAKE SURE I AM HERE. WITH OTHER PEOPLE. WITH OUR VOICE. UM. 
          AGAIN WE REALLY WORRY IF IT HAPPENED IF IT UM. OUR COMMUNITY . OUR HOME DEFINITELY WILL BE VALUE. SO WE REALLY WORRY WE DON'T FEEL SAFE TO LIVE THERE. AH AND WE REALLY WORRY, ESPECIALLY MY MOM. WE MOVED TO THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO THE CHURCH. MY MOM. SHE WALKED TO THE CHURCH EVERY MORNING. EVEN SHE HAD THE GENT TWICE TO GO TO THE CHURCH IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON. HMM. PAST 70. SHE'S NOT COMFORTABLE TO DRIVE LONG, BUT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE JUST EVERY DAY. WE CANNOT. BRING HER TO THE CHURCH. SHE NEEDS TO GO BY HERSELF. AS LONG AS SHE CAN. THAT REALLY IMPORTANT TO HER ANU KNOW. THE TREES. ON FOR THAT. 
          WHAT SHE REALLY WITCH THAT WHY WE HAVE BEEN THAT COMMUNITY. THAT WAS CILIPI JUST ACROSS THE STREET. THAT THE BUDDHIST TEMPLE OH, NADA. TEMPLE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR VIETNAMESE PEOPLE. 
          IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT COULD BE AROUND 90% VIETNAMESE PEOPLE. THE REASON IS WE REALLY WANT TO GO WHERE WE LIKE TO WORSHIP EVERY DAY. SO THE BUDDHIST TEMPLE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ELDERLY WALK TO TEMPLE EVERYDAY. THAT WORD. A FEW PIECES IN HEART. OUR MOM WOULD CROSSING THAT WE DON'T GO TO THE BUDDHIST TEMPLE, BUT WE WALKED TO THE JUDGE. GOOD GOOD FOR US. ALSO. 
          JUST GRASSES STREET THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND. WE SAW THE ESPECIALLY MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN. SOMETIMES THEY WALK BY THEMSELVES. ACROSS THE STREET BACK AND FORTH TO THE SCHOOL. AH IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FURTHER, ONLY THE BIT I SAW YOU KNOW THEIR PARENTS TO LET THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WALK SO OUT THERE. 
          SO THE STREET RIGHT FRONT OF US, MANY PEOPLE WALK AROUND AROUND, YOU KNOW, ON THE WALK WHEN WE WROTE MANY PEOPLE. BEHI JUST ACROSS THE STREET THAT THE LIBRARY AND, UH SO THAT ALL WE FREELY NOTHING LIKE WE HAVE BEEN THERE AND NO REASON WE HAVE TO GET OUR COMMUNITY TO MOVE ANYWHERE ELSE. EVEN WE CANNOT FIND ANYWHERE ELSE TO MOVE TO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. YOU SEE, NO QUESTIONS, OKAY? 21. PROBABLY GOT IT WRONG. I'M GOING TO BE CONSISTENTLY WRONG. MM. YEAH, THE ONLY. AH I AM EVERYONE LIVING AT PER DEFY 33 MUSTANG 
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RICHARD GALLANT. YOU KNOW, IT WILL TAKE ME A ABOUT 20 STEPS FROM MY HOME. DO NOT FACILITY. 
          AND, UH, I, UH AFTER HEARING THESE GENTLEMEN REPRESENT FOR THAT FACILITY ON THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT FACILITY TO BRING THE JOB. UH AND TO HELP THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE STUFF. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ON FROM YOUR HEART. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A HOUSE TO BUY WOULD YOU BUY THE HOUSE NEAR THAT THE FACILITY? IT'S MY FOR MY HEART. I WOULD SAY, NEVER EVEN RENT, EVEN RENTING. THE REASON WHY. WHY THE ON HIGH INCOME PEOPLE AND TRY TO MOVE TO THE PEACEFUL PLACE TO THE MOUNTAIN TO THE QUIET PLACE BECAUSE EVERY DAY THEY WANT TO BREAK UP, THEY WANT TO FACE WITH ALL THE BEAUTIFUL THING IN THE WORLD. AND NOW MY CHILDREN ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND YOUNG READY SEASON. EVERY DAY WE WAKE UP, THEY HAD TO HEAR THE YELLING THE HANDCUFFING FROM THE POLICE ON THOSE THINGS AROUND THEM. AND WHO AFFECT THEM. I WENT GROWING UP. SO. I REALLY DON'T AGAINST TOTALLY AGAINST NO FACILITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GOOD THING IN THERE. I KNOW THEY HAVE GOOD AND BAD THING, BUT THE GOOD THING I KNOW IT THEY CAN HELP THOSE BAD PEOPLE BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE. I AGREE WITH THEM , BUT WHY THEY DON'T DO THE REST LAND SHE MEANT NERISSA MENTORING NEAR LIVED NEAR THE REST LAND. ONLY PEOPLE LIKE WITH NO NOT AFFECT THEIR THEIR THE THEIR FUTURE THEIR LIFE ONLY FACING THE HIGHWAY WITH THE NOISE THERE . NOBODY HERE BUT WE HAPPY DAY I WAKE UP PEOPLE YELLING BECAUSE IN MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO BROKE PEOPLE WHEN THERE IS UNDER THE CONTROL. THEY MAKE YOU SOMEONE. AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I HAVE TO FIGHT WITH TO BE ALERT WITH EVEN I TRAVEL. I CANNOT KILL SHAPE WITH MY HOME BECAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN ANY INTO MY OWN MOTHER TO MY CHILDREN, AND ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. WHY I HAD TO LIVE WITH THOSE A LOT. 
          WHEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS PEACEFUL NOW AND THAT 1% I RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM FROM THE CITY OR I CANNOT REACH SLEEP. WELL, WE'RE ON AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEARING. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOU ON A LOT OF TIME. BUT NOT NOT ALL FROM MY HEART. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ASK A QUESTION IF I HAD A CHOICE FROM BEGINNING TO BUY A HOUSE. IT DOES NOT. HOW NEAR THAT FACILITY I WOULD NEVER BUY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TOM WYNN. DID I GET IT, RIGHT? NO. YEAH. RELIGION. MM. MY NAME. HUNGRY UM ME, SONJA AND OF YOUR TEAMMATES , CONTENT CONTENTS BEING. 383 FIRE! WAIT. YEAH. STEM STANDBY. 
          OKAY, THAT'S THE HARD DRESSES, THE 3508 STANDBY, OKAY IN ORDER. NOT YOUR PHONE. THINK NOTHING SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. I KNOW WE'RE ALL FRIENDS HERE. DON'T WORRY. IT'S ALL FRIENDLY. 
          YEAH. AND NOT ONLY IMAGE. ABOUTD TELL US YEAH, 71 ME TO, TO TRANSLATE FOR HER. SHE HAS TO, UM AH. TWO CHILDREN. HOW WELL MY DOING DIFFICULT. WE REMEMBER SO TO CHILDREN'S ONE IS 14. AND ONE NIGHT THEY GO TO SCHOOL NEARBY AND WORKING HOME AND SHE DOES NOT FEEL SAFE. PART URINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AH! UH EITHER TRY HOME OR TREE HOME. YEAH. TRY TRY HOME. I'M PRE WANNA OKAY? 
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ALRIGHTY KIM KIM WIN. MHM. MY NAME IS KIM JIN. I BELIEVE THAT 35 NIGHT DREAM FIRED, RIGHT? GARLAND FIVE. YOU KNOW, FOR SO MY KIDS. THEY KNOW THEY OPENED. THEY DID THEY CAME, YOU KNOW, AFTER HE KICKED THEY SAY MY MOM MORE BECAUSE I CAN SCHOON. WHEN I HEAR THAT SHE SAID THAT ARE YOU TAKE HOME WITH ME. AND THEN I HAPPENED TO HOW FOR SOMEBODY RAN AND THEN THEY CALL ME. THEY SAY THEY WANT TO HEAR THAT. THE UP AND THAT THEY CALL ME. THEY SAY THEY DON'T RUN ANYMORE. HOW CAN THEY IF THEY DON'T KENDRA NOW HOW CAN SOMEBODY CAN COME TO ME THAT THEY CAN COME? DO YOU RUN? AND THEY SAY THAT YOU ROTATE ME MOVE. LET ME MOVE. NO, THEY DON'T ANYMORE, BUT THEY OPENED UP. I CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL. I CAN'T SLEEP. THEY SAY THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY. DO YOU TAKE KIDDING? I CAN'T STAY HOME. YOU KNOW WITH THEM, YOU KNOW. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHILD TONGUE. AND IF THEY JUST WANT TO SAY THEY AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID THEY CAN. JUST KIND OF SAY ME TOO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK IF THEY DON'T WANT TO. OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. SO, UM LET'S SEE. YEAH. CHAT WRONG IS AN OPPOSITION. TRAM. FAN. OKAY? AND IF YOU'RE AGAINST, I WILL JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD. EVENING MY NAME IS, UM FAN 11 35 17 MUSTANG WHICH ROSE GARLAND. THIS IS SO INVALUABLE 44. UM WHEN I RECEIVED A LETTER, I'M REALLY WORRIED BECAUSE I HAVE TWO KIDS AND MAYBE I HAVE MORE IN THE FUTURE AND MY ONE OF MY 13 AND EIGHT YEARS OLD AND SHE GO TO SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL NEXT TO THE BUILDING, SO SHE WALKED. WORKED TO HIS SCHOOL AND WALKED YOU HOME EVERY SINGLE DAY, SO I DON'T WANT TO THAT BUILDING. UH WANT TO BE THERE? BECAUSE WE'LL BE DEATHS, JOY. MY FUTURE. I DON'T WANT TO. SHE MIGHT GET WONDER WHO IN THERE AND WHAT THEY DO IN THERE. BECAUSE THE KID IS THAT LIKE THE CLEAR PAPER I DON'T WANT LIKE WONDER ANYTHING. SO UM LATELY. MM HMM. AND REALLY SORRY, BUT. 
          YEAH ME AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD COACH TOGETHER, SO WE HOPE WE HOPE THAT UH UM WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO AGAINST THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH THE FUTURE VERY IMPORTANT AND, WE MAY PLAY AFTER SCHOOL AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO. PLEASE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KING WHEN. THAT'S SURE KIND OF QUICK. UM HAPPEN TO SEE THE COUNCIL WAS MENTIONED IF THEY ALL CARE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ONE IS AGAINST, THEY CAN JUST STAND UP. YES, THEY CAN DO THAT. OKAY, OKAY. IN THE FUEL. GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE IT. EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST STAND UP. YEAH I MADE THE CITY COUNCIL. HOW NICE THAT WE COULD HAVE A YOUNGER HANDY NO, I'M AGAINST THE LEBANESE COMING AWAY. THEY HAD THEIR HEART. YEAH. MONEY DON'T KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THE SEVENTH INNING STRETCH, DOESN'T IT? YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. I WILL ASK YOU DOES ANYBODY YOU WANT TO ASK 
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IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK? OTHERWISE, I'LL OKAY, GO. GOD I'M NOT. I THINK I'LL JUST COME ON. PARDON? YEAH. SOMEBODY IN THE BACK IF ANYBODY OVER HERE IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, COME ON DOWN. I'VE GOT A LONG LIST HERE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THEM DON'T WANT TO SPEAK. MHM. HI. MY NAME IS DEBBIE STRAND, 18 20, BAR CREEK CIRCLE. GARLAND TEXAS 75044. I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SUTTON PLACE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE 130 HOMES IN THE AREA. AND ONLY A QUARTER OF THEM HAVE RECEIVED THE LETTER NOTIFYING ABOUT THIS. UM. AND THE INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED WAS A ZOOM CALL. UM WHICH HAS HAD A LOT OF CONFLICTING INFORMATION FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT AND WHAT I RECEIVED WHICH I DIDN'T GET A LETTER SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO OFF OF WHAT MY NOTES HAVE FROM THERE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT FROM THERE. AH I'VE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 30 YEARS AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SO I DON'T WANT TO START ONE NOW. I UNDERSTAND THAT GUARDIAN IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE AND ZONING CHANGE FOR THE CARE OF ALCOHOLIC DRUG DEPENDENT AND PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS. I'VE LISTENED TO THE ZOOM CALL. AND I'VE MET WITH MY FELLOW HOMEOWNERS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY AT 34 50 WAGON WHEEL ROAD IS THE PROPER FACILITY. THERE IS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH HOSPITAL ON 26 96 WEST WALNUT STREET. AND IT HAPPENS TO HAVE AN EMPTY MEDICAL FACILITY BUILDING ATTACHED TO IT. AH! THE WAGON WHEEL COMMUNITY IS FILLED WITH ACTIVE FAMILIES. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS 650 CHILDREN ENROLLED. THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS APPROXIMATELY 1100 STUDENTS ENROLLED, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 100 OF PEOPLE THAT USE THE SOCCER AND BASEBALL FIELDS. DURING THE ZOOM CALL. 
          THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM GUARDIAN KEPT REPEATING THAT THIS FACILITY IS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL INDIVIDUAL. I DO NOT CARE HOW PROFESSIONAL YOU ARE WHEN YOU'RE IN A ADDICTED TO SOME KIND OF THE SUBSTANCE. YOU DON'T ALWAYS ACT PROFESSIONAL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OUR COMMUNITY IS GETTING THE PRIVILEGE TO HAVE SOME PROFESSIONALS COME TO OUR FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO GET TREATMENT. THE PATIENT IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TREATMENT IN THIS FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN MY COMMUNITY THAT COULD PAY 800 TO $1000 A DAY TO GET TREATMENT. THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM GARDA GUARDIAN KEPT REFERRING TO SKILLED TECHNICIANS. HOW DOES A SKILLED TECHNICIAN TAKE CARE OF A DETOXING ADDICT? DOESN'T THAT DETOXING ADDICT REQUIRE A MEDICAL DOCTOR TO BE PRESENT AT ALL TIMES. DURING THE DETAIL DURING THE ZOOM CALL. IT WAS NEVER STATED THAT THERE WOULD BE A DOCTOR ON CALL 24 7. THIS IS ONE OF THE CONTRADICTIONS. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT THAT SAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE A DOCTOR ON THE SITE? 24 7. IF NOT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A STRAIN. ON THE. AMBULANCE THE FIRE THE POLICE FOR PROBLEMS WITH THE DETOXING DETOXING PATIENT. UM AND I KNOW MR ROBERTS, YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE ELSE HAS, BUT IT SCARED ME. AH THESE PATIENTS CAN BE DETOXING FROM METH AND HEROIN. AND I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT. I WALK MY DOG IF I WALK MY DOG AROUND THAT AREA OF THE STREET. IT'S GOING TO HAVE ME SCARED. AND I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT FOR ANYONE IN HERE. AH! THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT A PATIENT PROFESSIONAL OR NOT COULD DO IF THEY'RE ADDICTED TO ANY KIND OF SUBSTANCE. AND ON THE ZOOM CALL. AH IT'S THEY WERE SETTING THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE SECURITY ON SITE THAT'S CHANGED. THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE IN SOME KIND OF CONTRACT. THE QUESTION WAS PRESENTED TO JOSH SCOTT, THE CEO OF GUARDIAN WHAT HE WANT THIS IN HIS BACKYARD. THERE WAS NOT A 
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QUICK YES, THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK PEDALING. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE THE SAME QUESTION TO EACH OF YOU. IF YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW THIS ZONING TO CHANGE, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? RIGHT? I AM MOMENT I AM ATTRACTION EMPTY ONE. OH, IT'S OKAY. I WAS GONNA ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GET UP AND SPEAK SO SHE CAN GET UP AND SPEAK. NO PROBLEM. YEAH. YEAH EVERYDAY LITTLE INFORMAL. GO AHEAD VERY MUCH. MY GOD AND AMERICAN, ME AND FAMILY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE. VIETNAM COME HERE. I COME. OREGON BUCKLAND, OREGON 1997. I AM 18 YEARS AND TWO MONTHS. NOW I COME HERE SEVEN YEAR I THINK I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OREGON AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. VERY GOOD. I. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH PEOPLE. NOW I WANT A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK HERE . UH NO, NO, NO. KEEP PEOPLE COME EVERY DAY. I'VE VERY VERY I KNOW. CANCEL IT. PEOPLE KILL ME AND YOU AND I LOOK I HAVE CHILDREN IN THE AMERICAN AND 12 PEOPLE, CHILDREN GRANDCHILDREN NOW WHITE ONE THINK PEOPLE HELP ME. HELP ME. LOOK, ALL PEOPLE WOULD NOT HELP PEOPLE. OF NEIGHBOR NO, NO. KEEP PEOPLE COME. YOU CAN SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF PEOPLE. AND COME ON DOWN. AND AGAIN NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MM. GENTLEMEN, LADIES. MY NAME IS SARAH FAULKNER AND I LIVE AT 17 05 LAKE STONE COURT. GARLAND TEXAS 75044. AND I'M ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT MR HINTS SPOKE OF AND THE ONE THING IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE. THERE ARE A NEED FOR PLACES LIKE THIS. THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT AT ALL. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THIS ROOM COULD HAVE AS MUCH EMPATHY AS ME. I HAVE WORKED IN A LOT OF PLACES, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE PLACES THAT I WORKED AT. AND I WORKED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS. IT WAS A MEMORY CARE UNIT ON ONE SIDE, AND IT WAS INDEPENDENT LIMIT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH EMPATHY I HAD. 
          I WORKED THERE FOR YEARS FOR FREE. I WAS A VOLUNTEER. I LOVE VOLUNTEERING. AND I HATE IT WHEN IT HAD TO CLOSE AND I'M WAITING FOR IT TO OPEN AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE SENIORS . THEN THERE WILL BE WELL. WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE SENIORS AND WE NEED PLACES FOR SENIORS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE. WE JUST DON'T NEED IT IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A FAMILY COMMUNITY, AND THERE ARE SCHOOLS CLOSE BY AND CHURCHES AND THE ELDERLY. THEY LIKE TO WALK THEIR DOGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, AND IT'S NOT THAT THIS COULD NOT HAPPEN ANY OTHER PLACE . IF SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT CAN HAPPEN IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND $1000 A NIGHT I DON'T THINK I DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT ON WAGON WHEEL AND A POWER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN THIS ITEM? THERE. HMM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HERBERT LOGAN LIVED AT 23 21 COUNTRY HOWLING IN GARLAND, TEXAS. 75040 THIS IS NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THIS IS GARLAND. AND SO. THE CONCERNS UP HERE TONIGHT. IT'S ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE THOUGHTS ABOUT HOME SWEET HOME. WELL THE ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS THE HOME WAS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SECURITY. AND THE FACT THAT. THAT'S BEING POTENTIALLY DISRUPTED. BY BRINGING IN A ELEMENT THAT IS GOING TO HEIGHTEN THE RISK INVOLVED. OR THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE HAS TO BE AN ELEVATED RISK BECAUSE OF DISTANCE THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS NOW THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE'S THAT A NEED FOR THAT. HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THE RIGHT FIT. FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN SPENDING $14 MILLION, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER THAT COLLECTIVE MONEY THAT HAVE BEEN 
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SPENT HERE FOR EXCEED THAT AND TO BE DISRUPTED AND DISPLACED BY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN AN ELEMENT THAT IT CAN BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN UGLY PROBLEM. AND THAT IF IT HAS NO RESTRAINT TO IT IF THERE'S A VOLUNTEER ADMITTANCE TO THAT AND YOU CAN LEAVE. THEN YOU KNOW ALL THE PROTOCOL THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T MAKE ME STAY WHERE I DON'T WANT TO BE. PARTICULARLY. IT'S A VOLUNTEER SITUATION. YOU HAVE ALL I DON'T HAVE A CAR. I DON'T HAVE MY IDENTIFICATION. SO NOW YOU'RE PUTTING ME IN THE DESPERATION MORE PERHAPS. AND IF MY PEOPLE STAY TUNED 100 MILES AWAY. IT'S GONNA TAKE A FEW HOURS TO GET HERE. YOU CAN'T CONTAIN ME FOR THAT LONG AND THAT, HE SAID. THAT'S AN EXTREME EXAMPLE TO THAT. BUT THE FACT OF IT IS, IS THAT WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, IT'S A IT'S A POTENTIAL THAT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. AND SO THE CONCERNS HERE THAT I'VE HEARD ARE REAL. AND THE FACT OF IT IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT, YOU KNOW GOOD FIT. IT'S ABOUT SUITABILITY. FINDING A PLACE THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE RIGHT SOLUTION. AND I THINK THAT THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS ADMIRABLE. BUT TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE 80 KNOWS THAT ARE NOT EVEN OF THE COMMUNITY AND DISRUPTING THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY HAVE NO COMFORT AND NO PEACE. AND WE'RE THE REAL RESOLVE THERE. THERE'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO THIS AND THE COST IS THAT'S MERELY MONEY. IT'S FROM THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY BEING DISRUPTED IN SUCH A WAY. THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AT SOME POINT IN TIME LONG AGO MADE THIS INTO THE DISTRICT THAT IT IS AND ZONE FOR WHAT IT IS. AND SO THE FACT THAT NOW ECONOMIC TIMES THAT CAME UPON WHERE THERE'S AN EMPTY BUILDING THERE THAT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF RECOURSE TO IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IN THE IN THE HASTE TO PUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN PLACE. IN AND AT THE SAME TIME DISRUPTING THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOOD. SPENT THE COST DOESN'T ISN'T. UH, VALIDATE THE BENEFIT THAT HAS BEEN LOST BY THOSE WHO ARE FEELING UNSECURE. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW HE BRINGS IT IN. FIXES IT UP. IT LOOKS GOOD. IT GOES WITH AS UH, COMMISSIONER ADULT, SAID THE FACILITY. HE HAD ONE TIME IT WAS STATE OF THE ART DOING A GREAT THING. AND NOW IT WAS IT CHANGES. AND THEN THEN WHO'S THERE TO DEAL WITH THAT? ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL TRYING TO HANG ON TO THEIR HOUSE OR HAVE LOST THEIR VALUE IN THEIR HOUSE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEFT TO PICK UP THE PIECES, WHILE THOSE WHO HAVE CAME AND NOT SUCCEEDED. THEY'RE GONE. AND SO I THINK. HOPEFULLY THERE'S NOT A PREDISPOSITION TO JUST WHITEWASH OVER THIS AND LET IT ALL BE ABOUT DOLLARS. BUT IT NEEDS TO MAKE SOME SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY HAVE ALREADY INVESTED THEIR LIVES. AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE. THAT IF WE DON'T AT LEAST STAND BY WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSES AND ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS. THEN WHAT ARE WE GONNA SAY TO THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY COME UP AND THEN AND THEN THEIR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY BY ANOTHER FAILED BUSINESS PROJECT. YOU KNOW? IT'S A IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT SHOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY INVESTED THERE SHOULD HAVE THE MOST TO SAY ABOUT HOW IT GOES AND CULTIVATES FROM HERE, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM THE PROPER CONSIDERATION IN REGARDS TO THAT. I'M HERE TONIGHT AGAIN. MY NEIGHBORS GEORGIA AND FEEL MORE WOODLEY. 
          THEY STAY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FACT THAT I HEAR THAT I CAN'T DISASSOCIATE MYSELF THAT BECAUSE I LIVED FOR THEM AWAY, AND AS THEY SAID, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FEW YEARS AGO THEY WERE TRYING TO BUILD IN OUT BY MY HOUSE THERE. THE HARMONY SCHOOL, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT IN UH, TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. THE THING OF IT WAS, IS THAT IT? GOOD IDEA, BUT IT WAS THE WRONG APPROACH. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. AND UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS ARE REAL. AND THERE'S NO NO ONE HERE THAT I'VE HEARD THAT HASN'T HAD A SENSE OF THE DESPERATION THAT THAT THAT THAT CONDITION CAN BRING ABOUT. BUT THERE'S JUST OUT OF THERE. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE A RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THAT THE SAME WAY THAT WE'RE BUILDING REBUILDING DOWNTOWN. THERE HAS TO BE SOME THOROUGH PLANNING AND NOT A KNEE JERK REACTION TO IT, SO THAT FEW YEARS FROM NOW, AND EVERYONE'S GOING TO COLLECT I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. OKAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL GIVE IT PROPER CONSIDERING THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE KNOW WHAT ANSWER WISHES SPEAKING, IT'S CASE. NO. THEY'RE ALWAYS BEHIND THE COLUMN WHERE I CAN'T SEE HIM. GOOD EVENING. UM, FIRST I'M GOING TO READ A LETTER FROM MONICA YOUNG. SHE'S AT 35 24 BUCKBOARD WAY. GARLAND, TEXAS 75044. IN YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IS MY NAME IS MARY IN THE HEALTH 
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SICK AND I LIVE AT 17 21 HIGHGATE PLACE. GARLAND TEXAS 75044. IT'S A IT'S A AN OFFICIAL LEGAL THING. WE HAVE TO GET SORRY. I UNDERSTAND, SIR. THANK YOU. THIS IS MONICA'S LETTER TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN. MY NAME IS MONICA YOUNG AND I LIVE LESS THAN A MINUTE'S WALK TO THE PROPOSAL OF SYLVIE. I HAVE A HUSBAND AND TWO SMALL CHILDREN, WHO ARE ONE IN THREE YEARS OLD. 
          I AM AGAINST THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE RECOVERY FACILITY. WHY WOULD THE DEVELOPERS SEE THIS AS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS? THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THE FUTURE SCHOOLS OF MY CHILDREN. EVERY DAY. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN THAT WILL WALK BY THE FACILITY. THERE IS ALSO WONDERS PARK WHERE FAMILIES COME TO WATCH THEIR CHILDREN PLAY SOCCER AND OTHER SPORTS EVERY WEEKEND. THERE WAS A BUDDHIST TEMPLE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. IF IT WERE A CHRISTIAN CHURCH THERE. I'M SURE THAT DEVELOPERS WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THIS LOCATION. IS IT BECAUSE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS AROUND THIS AREA? DID THEY THINK WE WOULDN'T CARE WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED THIS IN THE WEST PLANO NEIGHBORHOOD. WHY DID THEY GIVE US LESS THAN A MONTH'S NOTICE ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT? I HAVE LIVED HERE EIGHT YEARS AND WILL NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE OR SAFE WALKING AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN POLICE SHOW THIS THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND CARES FOR ITS CITIZENS, WHICH IS IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS RATHER THAN DEVELOPERS. PLEASE SAY NO TO THE FACILITY AND YES TO THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND. THANK YOU, MONICA YOUNG. THANK YOU. OKAY MY NAME IS MARY MATTEL 6 17 21 HIGHGATE PLACE GARLAND, TEXAS 75044. I BOUGHT MY HOUSE BACK IN 1985. I THOUGHT I WOULD MOVE UP. A BIGGER HOUSE IN 10 YEARS. 37 YEARS LATER, I'M STILL IN MY HOUSE. WHEN I WAS IN CORPORATE AMERICA I WAS TRAVELING EVERY OTHER WEEK. THIS WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD. MY NEIGHBORS WOULD GET MY NEWSPAPER. GET MY MAIL WATER. MY GRASS WATER MIGHT PLANTS ONE NEIGHBOR. ONE TIME I'M UP IN PAMPA, TEXAS. SHE CALLS ME AND SAYS MARIAN YOUR HOUSE ON YOUR WASHING MACHINE. IT'S LEAKING AND IT HAD COME OUT THROUGH THE GARAGE OR GARAGES ARE UP FRONT. SHE CALLED ME SHE ACTUALLY GOT ANOTHER NEIGHBOR BECAUSE LULING WAS LESS THAN FIVE FT. TALL TO TURN OFF THE WATER. AND WHEN I CAME, IT WAS HOLY THURSDAY, WHEN I CAME BACK INTO DALLAS, I CALLED THE PLUMBER THAT CAME OUT GOOD FRIDAY. AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE POLICE AND THE GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE NOT TRIED TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE MET THESE PEOPLE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND I HAVE DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIPS AND FRIENDSHIPS WITH THEM. THEY HAVE TAKEN ME AROUND ON THEIR STREETS AND GOT IN THE FORM SIGNED FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T SPEAK VIETNAMESE. YOU KNOW, AND THEIR ENGLISH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE WE JUST CAME TOGETHER AS ONE AND SARAH HAS GONE WITH ME TO. WE HAVE GONE LIKE THE DAY BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY, SARAH AND IRAQ IN 90 DEGREE HEAT. FOR ABOUT SIX HOURS GETTING SIGNATURES GOING AROUND. AND THIS IS A DEMOCRAT SOCIETY. WE GOT OVER 100 TWENTY'S FORMS. WE'VE TURNED IN ONE OF THEM WAS FOR AND I TOLD THE LADY I SAID, THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY. I WILL TURN IN YOUR FORM. YOU KNOW , WE DIDN'T ARGUE OR ANYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING BEING AN EXOTIC THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. BUT YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS. THEY SENT A LETTER OUT IN ENGLISH. GARLAND SENDS LETTERS OUT AND VIETNAMESE, SPANISH AND ENGLISH. AND THAT SOON CALLED THERE'S ELDERLY PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DON'T DO ZOOM. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THEM ONE ON ONE. THEY TOOK ME EVEN INTO THE TEMPLE. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE TEMPLE BEFORE. AND ACTUALLY, I GOT KIM WAS THE ONE THAT TOOK ME AND SHE GOT, SHE EXPLAINED TO THEM, AND THEY SIGNED THE FORM EVEN THOUGH ACCORDING TO THE CITY THEIR ADDRESS WAS RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT 400 FT. BUT I CAN TELL LIKE PEOPLE CARE. I WALKED THOSE STREETS EVERY DAY. I SEE THE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL. THEY COME ACROSS BELTLINE. THEY'RE THEY'RE WALKING UP TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND ELEMENTARY THEY CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOTS. I WAS ON THE ZOOM CALL. YOU KNOW, I RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. THEY SAID. OH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. AND THEN ALSO, I WAS ON THE ZOOM CALL, AND I ASKED HIM WHERE ANY OF THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS BY HOMES OR RESIDENTS. I WAS TOLD THERE WAS ONLY ONE AT THE TIME. 
          AND THAT WAS THE ONE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, LARGO AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WAS A TRAILER PARK NOW, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S NICER HOMES, YOU KNOW THERE'S NICE HOMES AROUND THERE. AND, UM WHEN I WALK. THERE'S LADIES THAT WALK IN THE MORNING. WE SEE EACH OTHER. WE WAVE WE SAY GOOD MORNING. YOU KNOW IF I'M NOT AROUND FOR A WHILE, THEY WERE GLAD TO SEE ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY WORRY ABOUT ME. BUT YOU JUST IT'S JUST A COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY STEPS UP. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ALL RIGHT. WORKING TOGETHER. AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? YEP. HI GOOD 
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EVENING. ALL. UM MY NAME IS TRIBAL WIND AND STAY AT 17 OH, NINE HIGHGATE PLACE IN GARLAND, TEXAS, 75044. UM I BOUGHT MY HOUSE SCENE 2012. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A STORY WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE BACK TO THAT DAY. AND THIS MOMENT I REMEMBER ABOUT MY NEIGHBOR. IS MITT, LILY AND. SHE THE ELDERLY PEOPLE OVER THERE. I STILL REMEMBER FROM THE FIRST DAY. UM, COME TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SITS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND SHE SAW MY CAR PARK IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND SHE COMING AND ASKED ME TO SLOW DOWN THE WINDOW AND ASKED ME WHAT YOU WANT FROM HERE. THAT TIME. I'M NOT THAT NEIGHBOR. YES. SO IN MY MIND, I DON'T LIKE OKAY, THIS LADY SO RUDE. ACTUALLY ASKING ME LIKE THAT. BEST AFTER I BOUGHT THE HOUSE I MOVE IN. AMBIEN NEIGHBOR OF HER, AND THEN I SOCIALIZE WITH HER. I TALKED TO HER. AND SHE EVERY DAY WHEN I GET OFF WORK AT FIVE O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK I GO HOME. I SEE HER IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND A WAVING ON HER, AND SHE STAYED. TODAY I SAW ONE OR TWO CAR DRIVING AN HOUR SUBDIVISION. THAT MAKE ME FEEL NOT SET THIS SO YOU BEING WATCH OUT? YOU KNOW THAT I FALL IN LOVE WITH HER AT THAT TIME. AND AROUND OUR NEIGHBOR IS THE SAME THING. SO I'M VIETNAMESE. SO EACH SUMMER I HAD TO GO BACK TO MY COUNTRY TO VISIT MY MOM ONE MONTH. YOU KNOW, I LEAVE HER KEY. TO HER HOUSE. SHE GET INTO MY HOUSE. CHECK ALL THE ELECTRONIC HELP ME TO CHECK EVERYTHING BY MAIL IN WATERING. MY PLAN THAT INCLUDE THE MARIANNE. THE ONE JUST COME IN HERE. SHE TAKES OVER MIDLAND JOB. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE MIDDLE ISLAND PASS AWAY ALREADY. 
          THAT IT HURT ME BECAUSE SHE PASSED AT THE TIME OF THE COVID 2020, AND THAT TIME A LIMIT ALL THE PEOPLE CANNOT COME AND FACES. WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES. SO. THE REASON I STAND HERE TO SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF. FOR HER VOICE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SHE LOVED THIS SUBDIVISION A LOT. I'M SORRY IF I TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO TELL THE STORY, BUT FOR SURE. I WANT SHE IN THE HEAVEN CAN HURT MY VOICE I FIVE FOR HER. RIGHT NOW. JUST. THE FIRST THING I AM A PRIEST BUBBLE ABUSER, BECAUSE, UM, YOU'RE PLAYING TO TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE YOU TURNED THE PEOPLE FROM THE BATTING. TO BECOME A GOOD THING AND VALUE OF THAT JOB. I KNOW THE FACILITY OF 34 50 WAGON WHEEL VERY CONVENIENT FOR THAT COMEDY BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A SENIOR LOCATION. SO FACILITY INSIDE HOW EVERYTHING INSIDE ALREADY? SO WHAT THEY COMING? THEY JUST REMODEL A LITTLE BIT. SO THEY CAN USE IT. BUT. I DON'T KNOW AGAIN WITH THAT THING, BUT THE THING IS ADDED WORRY ABOUT. THE PLAN. THEY PUT OUT THE FIRST THING THEY TALKING ABOUT THE STOP. THEY SAY THEY WILL HAVE LIKE 50 IN THE MORNING AND 25 IN THE NIGHTTIME. AND THE FACILITY . THEY YIELD. THEY SAID THEY WERE YOU WANT 48? THAT MEANS THEY WILL HELP 1 48 PATIENT INSIDE. LET ME TALK ABOUT THE CHILDCARE ROOM INDOOR GARLAND. 
          BECAUSE I HAVE MY KID AS SEND MY KIDS FOUR YEAR OLD IN THE DAYCARE, AND I KNOW CITY OF GARLAND. THEY HAVE THE ROOF, LIKE WANTED YOU ONLY TAKE CARE OF FOUR KIDS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS ONE. I KNOW THAT RIGHT OR NOT. BUT BECAUSE. WHEN I SEND MY KIDS TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY KISS AND GET LEARNED. IT'S NOT ONLY BABYSITTING. SO I TALKED TO THE PRINCIPAL AND EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT, AND THEY TOLD ME OKAY, YOU CAN DO THAT. SO IF I DO THE 
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MATCH THEY CARE THIS ONE. AT LEAST THEY NEED 37 PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF. FOR THE 1 48 THIS ONE IF I DO THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO CARE, TOO. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERNED. THE FIRST THING THE SECOND THING IS ABOUT THE PATIENT. THEY SAY THAT THIS ONE IS VOLUNTEERS. SO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO STOP AND GET OUT. SO IF YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE NEED THE COFFEE WE? WE NEED THE COFFEE EVERY MORNING. IF WE DON'T HAVE COFFEE, WILL NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE. RIGHT SO IF THE PEOPLE HELD THE DRUG IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE DRUGS, SO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT ONE. THAT'S THE SECOND ONE. THE THIRD ONE, THEY SAY. THEY WILL HAVE THE CHARGE. OR THE PEOPLE HELD THE WAY TO WALK OUT. I KNOW. THEY SAY THE FAMILY WILL WALK OUT WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE IN AMERICA AND EVERYBODY HEALTH THEIR OWN LIFE. EVEN MOM AND DAD LOVED THE KID. BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO GO TAKE THE KID HOME. SO THAT IS MY CONDEMNATION ABOUT THIS SITUATION. THE LAST ONE IS. FOR SURE. EVERYBODY SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE VALUE OF THE HOUSE. BUT WHAT ME I'M NOT VALUE OF THE HEALTH VALUE ABOUT DECEPTIVE FOR THE KIDS. AND ACCEPTED FOR A KID AROUND AND THAT SHARP DIVISION THEY HELD THE SPRING BREAK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WEBS MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WHEN I DRIVING BY I SAW THE KID WALK A LOT EVERY DAY. AROUND THERE. SO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED. IT THE KID. START SOMETHING. THEY SEE IT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FEELING. IN MY CASE IS 11 AND FOUR. OF COURSE WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE. WE CAN MOVE TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE CAN BUY THE HOW IN ANOTHER ONE. BUT I'M NOT SELFISH. I JUST WANT TO LET MY VOICE I TALKED TO BE HALF OF MYSELF BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBOR AND BE HALF OF MY KIDS. FOR ALL THE KIDS, THEY HELD THE RIGHT ONE TO BE DOING. VERY APPRAISES. COMMISSIONER SCOTT WHEN YOU SAY ABOUT THE GAY OR SOMETHING SEPTIC. DEATH IS. WILL BE ACCEPTED IF THEY HELP BUILD A GAY OR SOMETHING, SO THEY HAVE SECURITY CALLED TO GET IN AND GET OUT. BUT THIS ONE, YOU KNOW MY HOW IS IF YOU SAY FROM THE BACKYARD, I CAN JUMP TO THE THAT FACILITY. SO IF ONE DAY IF THEY ARE OUT OF CONTROL, SO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO POLICE ANSWERED THAT WISHING FOR ME AND THANK YOU FOR MY I'M TALKING I'M SORRY IF I TAKE TOO LONG, BUT HOPEFULLY MY VOICE AND. CITY OF GARLAND CAN LISTEN TO ALL MY BOY AND EVERYBODY VOICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GARY MOORE. I LIVE AT 25 14. CHRIS HAVEN DR GARLAND 75040. MY INTEREST IN THIS STARTS BACK FROM WHEN WINTER'S PARK WAS FIRST OPENED. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTARY TODAY. COMMENTS ABOUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN SO MUCH MONEY INTO IT. IT'S GOING TO BE REAL NICE. IT'S GOT THE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. 
          WINNERS PARK STARTED OUT AS I VERY NICE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER MEMORY LOSS CENTER. MY MOTHER HAD MEMORY LOSS PROBLEMS. WHY I PUT HER THERE. THINGS WENT VERY WELL. FOR A WHILE. AND THEN THE REVENUE WASN'T KEEPING UP WITH THE EXPENSES. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE LEVEL OF CARE CHANGED. 
          STAFFING CHANGED. OWNERSHIP CHANGED. YOU BROUGHT UP A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD TAKE TWO STAFF SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WAS A SELLING POINT FOR WINNERS PARK. WINNERS PART. COULD BE A VERY NICE ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY LOSS CENTER AGAIN. THERE'S A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT. IT'S BEEN AN EMPTY BUILDING. IT'S VACANT AND VANDALIZE. BEEN VANDALIZED. THAT HAPPENS TO HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO. SO WHAT? AH! ONE OTHER THING WAS MENTIONED AT 
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LENGTH WAS ABOUT THE CLIENTELE THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THIS FACILITY. OKAY, THERE. PEOPLE CLIENTS VOLUNTARY SELECT. SELECTED TO BE ADMITTED TO THE FACILITY. LARGE CONTINGENTS OF THE CLIENTS ARE PROFESSIONALS WITH HIGH STRESS CAREERS WHO CAN AFFORD TO CHOOSE REAL BILL TO YOUR SERVICE IN A CONTROLLED FACILITY. OKAY AGAIN. PROFESSIONALS DOCTORS, LAWYERS THAT HAVE DRUG ADDICTION PROBLEMS. THEY CAN GO ROGUE. AND ONE THING ABOUT THE FACILITY THERE. IT DOES HAVE THE REAL NICE, UH, COURTYARDS IN THE CENTER AND EVERYTHING. BUT IF THE CORNERS THERE IS EMERGENCY DOORS AND ALL IT TAKES. YOU'VE ALL BEEN TO RESTAURANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND YOU SEE THE BAR. YOU PUSH THE BAR. YOU GET OUT. FAR ORDINANCES WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO LOCK THOSE DOORS. IT SETS OFF AN ALARM, BUT WHEN IT SETS OFF AN ALARM STAFF HAS TO GO UP. LOOK FOR THOSE PEOPLE. THAT STAFF IS NOT LOOKING AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING THERE. THE OTHER THING IS TALKING ABOUT SAFETY OF CHILDREN. ONE MAN WALKED AROUND ALL THE FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT WEB YOU'LL KNOW WHAT TO SPRING CREEK ELEMENTARY, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TEMPLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IN THE AFTERNOONS. THERE'S A LARGE CONTINGENCY OF KIDS THAT ARE WALKING HOME. THEY WALK THROUGH THE PARKING LOT. AT BELL OF ESTATES OR WINNERS PARK. WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A WAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP THOSE KIDS FROM DOING IT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF FENCING PUT UP. TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING IT. UH, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE THE TIME FOR HAVING SERVICE LIKE THAT. IS NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE DRUG PROBLEMS, BUT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE MY AGE THAT ARE GOING INTO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO MEMORY LOSS FACILITIES. THAT FACILITY CAN BE REPURPOSED. AND BECOME ANOTHER FACILITY. KIND OF LIKE THERE'S ONE DOWN THE STREET CALLED MAYBERRY. I'M NOT. I THINK I CALLED ME VERY FARMS. MAYBERRY GARDENS GARDENS. IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL. IT COULD BE. THAT THE PEOPLE WHO RAN WINTERS PARK THEY JUST DIDN'T RUN IT REAL WELL. I PAID A PRETTY GOOD PREMIUM. FOR MY MOTHER TO STAY THERE. AND YOU COULD GO BACK IN AND PUT THAT AND IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE EXPENSE STRUCTURE. THE FACILITIES CHEAP. THAT'S ONE REASON THEY WANT TO BE THERE. SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW IT'S PROBABLY INTO BANKRUPTCY. BUT I THINK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND ACTUALLY CONSIDER THAT ESPECIALLY BUT THE MAIN THING SHOULD BE THE CHILDREN AROUND THERE. THE CHILDREN UP MOST. THE COMMUNITY ALSO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALREADY COMMISSIONERS. I WAS GOING TO TRY TO TAKE A BREAK AT NINE. OBVIOUSLY I MISSED THAT. BUT I THINK WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYBODY ELSE AND WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP. ALREADY. WE ARE BACK FROM BREAK NOW AND MAY 23RD PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. SO BEFORE I ASKED THE APPLICANT BACKUP. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I AM JENNIFER ANGWIN 2210 COUNTRY. L. GARLAND 75040. I DON'T LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT AS YOU ALL MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, I'M A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST. I HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERED FOR THE CDO GALLON IN THE PAST 35 YEARS CURRENTLY SERVING UNDER COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION. I AM VERY PROUD, GARLAND RESIDENT AS YOU CAN TELL. ASIAN AMERICAN VIETNAMESE AMERICAN WHEN WE ESCAPED THE WAR WE ARE ALWAYS QUIET. WE WORK HARD. WE DO EVERYTHING RIGHT? BECAUSE AMERICA GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A BETTER PERSON. GIVE OUR CHILDREN A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOMEBODY. TODAY WE ARE SO PROUD TO SEE SO MANY VIETNAMESE AMERICAN IN THE ROOM. THE FIRST TIME EVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE 36 YEARS IN GARLAND, TEXAS, FIRST 
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TIME EVER, I WAS SO TOUCHED THANK YOU. THEY ARE HERE. BECAUSE I HAVE CONVINCED THEM FOR 35 YEARS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THEY SEE THE GARLAND IS GOD LAND NOW ON TERM. GOD. GIVE US A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. WE CAME HERE WE ESCAPED THE LAND. OF COMMONNESS WOULD NOTHING BUT CLOTHES ON OUR BACK. WE HAVE OUR DREAM COME THROUGH. TRAVEL ME WHEN THEY CAME TO ME FOR HELP REQUIRING OUT LOUD THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, SO I ENCOURAGED THEM. TO COME IN TONIGHT FEEL A LOT OF FORM. AGAINST OR FOUR IS THAT DECISION? I'M NOT TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO. THEY ARE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK OUT. SO THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME. WON'T BE THE LAST WE WILL KEEP ON CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE GARLAND THE BEST PLACE FOR OURSELVES. AND OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. WE WILL DO BETTER NEXT TIME. NOW THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE'VE TAKEN TOO MUCH TIME TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE UNORGANIZED. NEXT TIME, I PROMISE YOU ONE THING. THE VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY ON DISTRICT SEVEN. WE WILL BE WELL PREPARED. RESPECTFULLY AND BE NICE AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE. THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR YOUR LISTENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. NO COMPLAINTS. 
          ALRIGHTY. WORDS. NAME AND ADDRESS. YEP USING I LIVE IN 251 IT MUSTANG. RACHEL GARLAND, TEXAS 57544. SO I'M HERE TO WITH ALL THE PEOPLES, SO I'M NOT DAMAGE BUT I AM FROM INDIA. SO I'M PRESENTING MYSELF ALONG WITH THESE PEOPLES. I KEEP THIS COMMUNITY LIKE YOU KNOW THE TIME WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE AWAY. I MOVED FROM MINNEAPOLIS LIVE OVER HERE BECAUSE MY WIFE TELLS THIS IS A NICE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE YOU KNOW, TEMPLE, BUT OVER HERE WE HAVE SCHOOLS OVER HERE AND I LOOK FOR MY DAUGHTER. SHE'S TWO YEARS. SHE IS GOING TO BE, TOO, BUT SHE ASKED ME SO MANY QUESTIONS. SOME KIND OF YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY OKAY, I'M TOO BUSY. I CAN, YOU KNOW, ANSWER EVERY QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE GO OUT. WE WALK AND HE MIGHT SEE THAT BUILDING. YOU KNOW, SHE SHE MIGHT SEE THOSE. YOU KNOW IF THEY BUILD THOSE FENCES, WHAT IS THIS BUILDING DOWN? SO YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION. BUT WE ARE EXPOSING OUR CHILDREN TO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION THAT IS PUT IN WORDS COMMUNITY. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT THAT? SOMEBODY YOU KNOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS. THEY BOUGHT THIS BUILDING THE INVESTING THESE MANY YOU KNOW, MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE BUILDING SO THEY CAN THEN IT MIGHT BE CHEAP BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF YOU COMPARE THE PRICES OF GARLAND HOUSE AND OTHER CITIES, IT'S CHEAP THAT WE KNOW THAT RIGHT. IT'S A CHEAP, CHEAP BUILDING THAT THEY CAN BIKE AND PUT THAT MANY DOLLARS. THEN THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY ON IT. RIGHT THEN OTHER THING IF TALKED ABOUT THE BUSINESS, OKAY, SO THEY HAVE THE BUILDING. I DECIDED I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY CHILDREN THAT SCHOOL YOU MIGHT BE IN 23 YEARS. YOU SEE, THEIR SCHOOL IS EMPTY. SO WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT SCHOOL, WHICH IS EMPTY RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO KID GOING OVER THERE. 
          SO EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WERE GOING TO COME IN OVER YOU, YOU KNOW? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN AND SEE THEY NEEDED THEIR BUILDING. SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. SO WE HAVE TO THINK, PROACTIVELY. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE KIDS? THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY YOU KNOW, TO SEND FROM MY SIGHT. THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. COULD YOU HAVE THE WITNESS TELL US HIS NAME AGAINST SLOWLY FOR THE SECRETARY. YEAH WE NEED HIS NAME AND ADDRESS SLOWLY SO SHE CAN GET IT. FOR THE RECORD. IT'S GARY THING. 3518 MUSTANG CREATURE. GARLAND, TEXAS 7544. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. LAST CALL. ALREADY, UH. MR FISHER. MR SCOTT, IF YOU CARE TO REBUT ANYTHING, OR. REST A FEW. OKAY? ALRIGHTY. SO I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS. CONCERNS WERE WILLING TO DO A FEW THINGS THAT WOULD, UM, HOPEFULLY MAKE THE HOUSTON PROPOSAL COMPATIBLE OR MORE, UM AND SINK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO THINK THERE ARE STILL A NUMBER OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, UM, BEING A PRIVATE FACILITY AND NOT A PUBLIC FACILITY AND THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ON DRUGS AND, YOU KNOW, DOING DRUGS ACTIVELY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT TRANSLATES WITH THIS TYPE OF REQUEST. THIS THIS WHOLE NATURE OF THIS FACILITY IS TO GET PEOPLE OFF DRUGS. AND THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS AND PROGRAM INVOLVED TO DO THAT. AND 
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THIS BUILDING WORKS OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL FOR THAT TYPE OF USE. UM I DON'T THINK THAT THIS USE WILL BE DISRUPTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT WILL LARGELY GO UNNOTICED. I THINK THAT THE ACTIVITIES, UM WILL BE COMPARABLE TO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND LIKELY LESS LESS IMPACT THAN EVEN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WE'D BE WILLING TO BUILD A FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY TO ENCLOSE THE REST OF THE PERIMETER OF THE FENCE JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE PROPERTY. UM AND, UM, JUST TO PROTECT BOTH THE CLIENTS AND UM AND THE NEIGHBORS, UM, UNDERSTAND THERE'S TRAFFIC. 
          ALONG THERE AND WALKING TRAFFIC ON THERE WE'D BE WE'D BE HAPPY R CIVILITY. WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN ANY OTHER FACILITY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WE COULD EVEN PUT IN THE IN THE ISSUE P CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ONE. UM AT OUR FACILITY. UNDERSTAND UM THERE WAS A COMMENTS MADE ABOUT CONFLICTING COMMENTS WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. WE DIDN'T STATE ANYTHING THAT DIFFERENTLY TONIGHT. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LIKE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT A DOCTOR BEING ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COME UP THAT I RECALL. BUT THERE WOULD BE ONE MEDICAL DOCTOR AT THE FACILITY. UM SOME A COUPLE OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE IN AFFLUENT AREAS. THESE DON'T JUST DON'T THEY DON'T GO IN AREAS THAT ARE SORT OF, UM, LOWER INCOME. THEY GO IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED AND IN IN BUILDINGS, WHERE THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT THE TYPE OF OPERATION THAT THEY RUN UM. I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT IT AT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMENTS, OR AT LEAST THE NOTES THAT I WROTE DOWN. JOSH MAY HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS. I THINK HE ALSO WANTS TO TALK A BIT MORE. THAT'S OKAY. UM AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. UM. SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS, UH UM THAT MY HEART REALLY DOES BREAK FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THE THAT TESTIMONY THAT THEY SHARED. UM I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE IDEA OF THIS USE HAS CAUSED EMOTIONAL DISRUPTION IN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND THAT SADDENS ME TRULY. AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH , I DO THINK THAT THAT IS LARGELY SEATED. IN MISCONCEPTION AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME DEGREE OF PREJUDICE ABOUT WHAT SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER LOOKS LIKE. I MYSELF AND PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS WORK BECAUSE I'M IN LONG TERM RECOVERY, I WAS AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TREATMENT AT 22 YEARS OLD. ONE OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MR JESUS, JESUS, JESUS. SHARED. THAT HE HAD A SON THAT NEEDED THESE SERVICES. LIKELY NOT A CRIMINAL AND UNSAVORY ELEMENT THAT WOULD DO DAMAGE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. I WASN'T A THREAT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I WAS CERTAINLY A THREAT TO MYSELF, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D BE STANDING HERE IF I WASN'T AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY THERE WAS A LOT OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS SHARED. BUT ONE OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT STUCK OUT THAT THAT I COULD SPEAK TO BELIEVE WAS MENTIONED BY BY DEBBIE. IS. THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THIS FACILITY $800,000 A DAY THAT MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE DO WORK WITH COMMERCIAL INSURANCE. WE WORK WITH CIGNA AND AETNA AND BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD, AND WE ARE IN NETWORK WITH A NUMBER OF THOSE INSURANCE PLANS. WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME TO OUR FACILITY WHERE INSURANCE PAYS FOR 80 OR 90% OF THE COST OF CARE. UM SO WE DO GET FOLKS THAT ARE AND I WOULD STILL CONSIDER THEM TO BE PROFESSIONAL, BUT WE DO GET FOLKS THAT ARE FROM BLUE COLLAR WORKING CLASS FAMILIES THAT ARE YOU KNOW, TEACHERS AND WORK AT THE AIRPORT. UM SO WE WOULD BE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I HOPE THAT. THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER. ARE YOU STILL THANK YOU? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALREADY COMMISSIONERS WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY. UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO EITHER ONE OF YOU TO DESCRIBE THE FENCE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT UP. AROUND THE TOTAL PROPERTY, INCLUDING INGRESS EGRESS GATES ON THE DRIVEWAYS. YEAH. SO. THERE'S ALREADY A MASONRY WALL AROUND ARE ADJACENT TO THE TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, PROPERTY SO WE WOULD ENCLOSE BASICALLY FROM THE EDGE OF THAT WALL, WHICH LET ME GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. I HAVE A SIDELINING I WAS AT THE END. BUT BUT ONE OF THE 
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INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING SAID THAT KIDS CAN JUMP OVER THE BRICK WALL. HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? WELL I MEAN, WE CAN'T CAN YOU NOT ADD TWO FT OF BROAD IRON FENCE ABOVE THAT, POSSIBLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. UM WE COULD POSSIBLY DO THAT. BUT THEN WE WOULD ALSO ADD AN ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE, BASICALLY FROM THE BE THE NORTHEAST CORNER ALONG GARLAND AVENUE. UM ALL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION AND THEN DOWN WAGON WHEEL AND WE WOULD CONNECT IT TO THE MASONRY WALL. UM, THAT IS AT THE SOUTH. MY HOUSE IS AT AN ANGLE BUT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ALONG GARLAND AVENUE. UM I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE TRESPASSING IN OUR PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT I MEAN NOW AND OF COURSE, IT'S VACANT. 
          THERE'S NO ONE REALLY POLICING IT. UM SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT PEOPLE. ON OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S BUT IF YOU PUT THAT WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALL AROUND, AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED YOU NEED TO INCLUDE INGRESS EGRESS GATES. THAT ONLY CAN BE CONTROLLED BY FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT OR OR YOUR STAFF. EXACTLY YEAH, WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO. WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. THEY HAD TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT THERE'S STACKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY COULD WORK ON THAT. RIGHT TO THE FENCE. UH, THE WHATEVER SCREENING IT IS, YOU KNOW WE ARE OPEN. ONE OF THE THINGS IS I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS AND AESTHETICALLY NOT JUST WITH THE BUILDING BUT ALSO WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BECAUSE WE CAN PUT BARBED WIRE IN A TOWER. AND I MEAN AND IT WOULD BE IMPERVIOUS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. OR TO THE PATIENTS THAT ARE SEEKING TREATMENT THERE. AND THEN THERE'S JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT THAT KICKED. SOMETHING UP FOR ME, IS, UM ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER. SHARED THAT, UM YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING WAS VANDALIZED, BUT SO WAS THEIR HOME. WE'RE NOT IN THE COMMUNITY YET, AND HOMES ARE BEING VANDALIZED AND SOMEONE ELSE SAID , YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT DRUG USERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. I'VE BEEN IN THIS FIELD FOR 15 YEARS, I'VE SEEN ALL WALKS OF LIFE. THERE ARE DRUG USERS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ALCOHOL ABUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND. YES SO WE'RE OPEN TO THE FENCE, AND, UM, AESTHETICALLY, UM, FUNCTIONAL. I THINK BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE KEY. INGRESS AND EGRESS WERE THAT'S THAT'S OKAY WITH US. AND IN IT THAT THE COMMISSION CHOOSES THAT TO MOVE FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION. WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH STAFF TO ADD THAT FENCE BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNCIL. ERNIE WAS THAT A COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER AT THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS GENTLEMEN, SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING. COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT MEDICAL STAFF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 24 HOURS? WILL THERE BE A MEDICAL DOCTOR THERE AND WHAT TYPE OF NURSING STAFF DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING AT OUR FACILITIES. WE HAVE A MEDICAL DIRECTOR THAT IS ON SITE DURING THE DAYS AND IN THE EVENING HOURS WE HAVE PSYCHIATRIC NURSE PRACTITIONERS. 24 HOUR NURSING. NURSES AIDES LP INS ARE ENDS, UM AND UM, PSYCHIATRIST DURING THE DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARIS AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS THERE. THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT I WANTED TO EITHER. MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE REITERATED , OR LISA DRESSED AND I THOUGHT I DIDN'T HEARD ONE OF THEM WAS AROUND THE SECURITY CONCERNS, WHICH WE'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES. BUT ONE OF THEM AROUND MIDDLE SCHOOLERS WHERE THEY CUT THROUGH AND THEY COME THROUGH. IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY THEY CAN CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY. SO IS THE FENCING THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING WOULD BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE WE? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER MIDDLE SCHOOLER WOULD DO RIGHT. SO I WANT TO BE SURE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED, AND ONE MORE THING REAL QUICK. AND, UM THE SECOND WAS BACK TO SILICON, A SECURITY CONCERN POINT UM, I BELIEVE THIS. MR. HERNANDEZ HEAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE LEAVING, RIGHT? I KNOW YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT, BUT IT'S AGAIN A SECURITY CONCERN OF HOW RE. RECONFIRM THE SAFETY AROUND SOMEONE LEAVING. AND LIKE AT NIGHT, ETCETERA, AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE SECURITY PERSON IN PLACE AND YOU MAY NEED TO GO DO MORE DETAILS ON IT, BUT IT'S COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES. SECURITY IS A BIG CONCERN, AND THE THIRD ONE WAS A HINT TOWARDS DEVALUING THE AREA WITH THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY METRICS ON THAT, ETCETERA. BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER CONCERN OF CITIZENS HAVING THEIR PROPERTY TO VALUE BECAUSE THIS THIS TYPE OF LAND USE IS COMING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY. SO THOSE 
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ARE KIND OF THOSE THREE THINGS IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NOW, UM, LEAVE THE THIRD TO MR FISHER. AS FAR AS THE FIRST TWO, UM SOME OF THE AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE SEEMINGLY PIVOTED ON SECURITY SINCE THE ZOOM CALL, UM AND THAT AND I THINK I TRIED TO TOUCH ON THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION. THAT PIVOT COMES FROM THE FACT THAT ON THE ZOOM CALL, UM I'M SHARING THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER PROGRAMS. WE DON'T HAVE, UM, 24 HOURS SECURITY AT OUR OTHER FACILITIES . WE HAVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TECHNICIANS. WE HAVE STAFF ON SITE 24 7. WE HAVE MONITORED. WE HAVE CAMERAS. WE KEEP AN EYE ON ALL THE ALL THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS BUT NO SECURITY, UM, SEEING THE PROPERTY TODAY? UM WHICH WASN'T THE CASE WHEN WE WERE HERE, UM, FIVE MONTHS AGO, PUTTING IT UNDER CONTRACT. UM IT HAD BEEN VANDALIZED AND IT HAD BEEN BROKEN INTO THAT CONCERNED ME, AND THAT WAS OUR SHIFT FOR SECURITY WAS RESPECTFULLY NOT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR PATIENTS, BUT TO PROTECT OUR PATIENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT ALSO FALLS IN LINE WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS CUTTING THROUGH NOT THAT I THINK MIDDLE SCHOOLERS ARE GOING TO BE SOME RISK ARE GOING TO BE SOME, UM, THREAT TO THE PATIENT COMMUNITY WE HAVE. BUT OUT OF RESPECT, I THINK THAT THIS IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL UM, YOU KNOW, PLACE THAT WE HAVE ARRIVED AT ITS BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL ASSUAGE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS WE'RE WILLING TO BUILD A FENCE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, UM MIDDLE SCHOOLERS CUTTING THROUGH CAMPUS. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THEM. IT'S ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US SO THAT FENCE WOULD HAVE TO BE DESIGNED IN SUCH A FASHION THAT, UM, LIKELY WHAT I ENVISION. AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. UM BUT WHAT I ENVISION IS A SLIDING YOU KNOW WHAT? PERHAPS A DECORATIVE FENCE AROUND THE FRONTAGE OF WAGON. 
          REAL ROAD THAT IS, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FT. TALL WITH, YOU KNOW, DECORATIVE, POINTY TOPS, AND A, UM SLIDING. GATE ON THE DRIVEWAY . THAT IS THE SAME FENCE THAT OPENS UP WHEN A CALL BOXES CALLED OR POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO ACCESS IT WITH A WITH AN INTERCOM THAT GOES INTO THE FACILITY AND UM THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IT SEALING THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SCHOOLCHILDREN CUTTING THROUGH. UM SECOND QUESTION. WHY WAS SPEAKER REMIND ME. THAT WAS THE THIRD QUESTION PROPERTY VALUE. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER THAT THAT'LL BUT I THINK THERE WAS A SECOND QUESTION. YOU HAD THREE OKAY? SO I MEAN, TYPICALLY, APPRAISERS. AND WE WORK WITH TRADERS AND WE HAD TO READ APPRAISAL REPORT. SOMETIMES WE WORK ON TEXT DOT TAKINGS AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT THINGS AND IN OUR LINE OF WORK. UM, APPRAISERS ALWAYS. WHEN THEY COMPARE ONE PROPERTY ANOTHER. IT'S ALWAYS APPLES TO APPLES, SO THEY'LL LOOK AT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OR DETACHED HOMES AND COMPARE WITH OTHER SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. AH NEARBY TO CORRECT TO COME UP WITH AN APPRAISED VALUE. UM TYPICALLY, UM AND ADJACENT NONRESIDENTIAL USE LIKE THIS, AND IN THIS CASE, PEOPLE ARE STAYING OVERNIGHT, SO IT'S SOMEWHAT RESIDENTIAL. BUT THE POINT BEING, IS THAT THIS TYPE OF FACILITY THAT WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT TO BE DEVALUING PROPERTY YOU WOULD HAVE TO EVER HAVE TO BE SOMETHING. WHAT YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF LOCALIZED, UM, LOCALLY UNDESIRABLE LAND USE LIKE A PIG FARM AND INDUSTRIAL FACILITY. SOMETHING WHERE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRIVE IN THAT NEIGHBOR AND BE LIKE, LOOK, WHAT'S NEXT DOOR? WELL WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOK AT HOMES. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO SEE A BUILDING. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT USED TO BE ASSISTED LIVING. 
          THAT'S NOW PROPOSE SOMETHING VERY, VERY COMPARABLE. AND SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT KIND OF DEVALUE. UM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE. IN FACT, I THINK IF IT WAS APPROVED FOR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD PEOPLE LIKE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WHAT KIND OF ANOTHER I SEE THE NAME ON THERE, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY DO IS IT'S A MEDICAL OFFICE AND THEY WON'T REALLY KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. YOU KNOW, EXPERIENTIAL STANDPOINT, IT WOULD JUST BE SOMEONE HAVE TO TELL THEM. OH, THAT'S THIS. BECAUSE THEY WON'T THEY WON'T KNOW IT. IT WILL HAVE MINIMAL TO NO IMPACT. UM UH, COMPARED TO AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, NURSING HELP. VERY LOW TRAFFIC. UM THEY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S A LIABILITY FOR THE COMPANY, AND THEIR TRACK RECORD SHOWS THAT THAT'S NOT NOT AN ISSUE. UM EVEN WITH HAVING YOU KNOW A MAYOR AND CHIEF OF POLICE , UM IN THE IN CITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN WILLING TO WRITE A LETTER OF ENDORSEMENT, I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES TO, UM THIS 
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OPERATOR AND FOR THIS THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. 
          AND THEN YEAH, ACTUALLY, THIS THIS IS A PROCEDURE QUESTION. IN ANY EVENT, NOT LIKELIHOOD IN THE EVENT OR POSSIBILITY THAT THIS APPLICATION IS DENIED. DOES THE AFRICAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL? UM IT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WERE JUST AN ADVISORY PANEL AND CITY COUNCIL CAN SAY THEY LIKE OUR OPINION DON'T LIKE OUR OPINION. AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY ARE THE FINAL ARBITERS. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING BACK DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHTY, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. IN MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND, WHICH IS A STRANGE WAY TO SAY 1ST 2ND, BUT FROM COMMISSIONER ROSE FOR HIS VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. HERE WE GO. IN THEIR PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE. AND I'M GOING. TO CHANGES TO DISCUSSION MODE WHERE YOU CAN JUST CHIME IN AND TALK. JUST PRESS YOUR BUTTON AND TALK. MY TURN YOUR TURN. GO AHEAD. AH! THIS IS A QUESTION TOO. OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IF THE MOTION IS MADE. HOW CAN WE ADD ITEMS TO IT? UNLIKE SOME OF THE THINGS ARE CHAIRMAN BROUGHT OUT LIKE. THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT A FENCE, DO IT UP AND INGRESS EGRESS. I MEAN, HOW DO WE DO THAT? OH, MR CHAIRMAN, THAT WOULD BE CONDITIONS ON THE S U P SO YOU WOULD DO THEM AS CONDITIONS ON THE S U P CONDITIONS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE UNDER THE G. D. C WOULD INCLUDE BUT BUFFERING AND SCREENING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WOULD BE, UH, LIMITATION ON THE FUNCTION OF THE PROPOSED USE HOURS OF OPERATION REQUIREMENT FOR SECURITY. A LIMITATION CONDITION ON THE S U P FOR ANY OTHER CRITERIA THAT THE COMMISSION BELIEVES IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. MHM IN THIS CASE, AND SO YOU WOULD ADD THEM AS CONDITIONS TO THE S U P ALRIGHT NOT AS CONDITIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE PD. BUT THE S U P IS A PLACE THAT GOES BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT WOULD BE A CONDITION TO THE S U P. OKAY? THAT. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. I APOLOGIZE FOR GRAND SETTING HERE SOMEWHERE. I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH CORDIALLY WROTE OUT MY STATEMENTS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ FROM A SPORT. UM ON THE BASIS OF THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL FOR A CHANGE IN VOTING, AS NOTED IN SECTION 2.6 THE GDC AND I'M AN ATTORNEY. THAT'S WHAT I DO IS QUOTE THINGS. SORRY AND THE TESTIMONY PROVIDED TONIGHT. ONE CANNOT WHOLLY AGREE TO ANY ITEM WITH OUR CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN ADDITION TO SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING, ACCESS, CONTROL, SECURITY AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING WITH GARLAND, POLICE AND FIRE AND THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT. EVEN JUST ADDRESSING THE SCREENING ALONE MAY PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY'S APPEARANCE IDENTITY AND TO ADD A UNIQUE NATURAL AREA OF BEAUTY. TO THE SURROUNDINGS. 
          BEFORE I BEGIN. I HEARD THERE WAS A THERE WAS THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT WHAT? WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THIS WAS YOUR HOME WITH YOU WERE LIVING THERE? MY FAMILY'S HOME IS LESS THAN A MILE AWAY FROM THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY, AND IT SMELLS PRETTY, INTERESTINGLY, IN THE SUMMER. AND THE DUMP, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF SURROUNDING FACILITIES IN THE AREA. UM. BUT TO BEGIN AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE ITEMS, UM THE UNDERLYING CHANGE IN ZONING REQUEST, AND THIS ONE'S OPINION DOES NOT IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOR DOES IT APPROPRIATE WHEN CONSIDERED IN RELATION TO THE GENERAL AREA. ADDITIONALLY OTHER AREAS ARE CLEARLY EXPRESSING CONCERN AND PERHAPS OTHER AREAS SHOULD BE MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE. IN ADDITION TO THIS AND FINALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OUTSTANDING FACTORS 
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FACTORS, PERHAPS BEYOND THE APPLICANT IN THE COMMUNITIES CONTROL THAT SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE PUBLIC MORALS, SAFETY AND GENERAL WHERE FAIR OF THIS COMMUNITY. FURTHER IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S CRITERIA, ONE CANNOT DECISIVELY AGREE THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT RESOLVES OR MITIGATE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, OR HOW THE PROPOSED USED DEPICTED IN THE DETAILED PLAN IS COMPATIBLE WITH ITS ALREADY EXISTING USES. NAMELY HOW HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN WALK DAILY ACROSS OPEN LANDSCAPE AREAS. HOWEVER. WOMEN CAN SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND THERE MAY BE GREAT BENEFIT TO TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND COLLABORATION WITH THIS TEAM. THIS TEAM SPECIFICALLY AND THE GOVERNMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY'S ISSUES RAISED TONIGHT AT ONE CANNOT SUPPORT THESE ITEMS IN TOTAL, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER AT GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING CASES. I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD COME TO THIS BODY WE'VE HAD WE'VE LISTENED TO A LOT OF. HEART WRENCHING OUR HEARTFELT TESTIMONY ABOUT WHAT? THIS COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN TO THEM. IT'S. WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A LAND USE PURPOSE AND HOW BEST AND WHAT'S THE HIGHEST BEST PURPOSE OF THIS FACILITY. IT'S BEEN AN L AND LOOKING AT IT. IT'S A 74,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT 15 YEARS AGO. THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME. THERE'S S UPS THAT THAT TYPICALLY WOULD BE 20 TO 30 YEARS ON THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS AND IT LASTED 13 YEARS. AND IT'S HAD TO OPERATORS OF IT, SO DID NOT FUNCTION WELL AS AN ELDER CARE FACILITY, AS IS PERHAPS ITS LOCATION. PERHAPS IT'S OTHER ISSUES, BUT WE KNOW WHAT HAS FAILED SO FAR. UM WILL THERE BE ANOTHER ELDER CARE FACILITY THAT CAN GO INTO THAT? IT'S POSSIBLE. WE DON'T KNOW IT'S ALREADY BUILT. AND SO THE PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE, AND IT'S FAIRLY MODERN. UM AS TO WHETHER THIS IS A WHETHER THIS IS THE HIGHEST BEST USE AS A, UM AS AN AS A REHAB FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT AS 148 BEDS. YOU HAVE, UM. THIS IS THE LARGEST PROJECT THAT THIS OPERATOR HAS EVER OPERATED, AND IT'S ALREADY NOT PROVEN TO BE FEASIBLE FOR ELDER CARE TWICE, SO I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH WITH SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COMMISSION APPEARS SORRY. OKAY YOU'RE THE BEST WAY TO FRAME IT, BUT I WILL SPEAK WHAT I'M THINKING. ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AND IT MAY BE A CONDITION OF BEEN FOR RECONSIDERATION TO HAVE THE, UM THE APPLICANT VISIT WITH THE CITIZENS. IT'S CONCERNING THAT THAT IT WAS COMMUNICATED THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THE CITIZENS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THEIR CONCERNS. UM BEFORE YOU CAME, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONNECT WITH THE CITIZENS. OR THE COMMUNITY TO BETTER GAUGE IF THERE IS A WAY TO BRING THEM ALONG WITH YOU. UH THAT IS, UH, MY ONE OF MY REALLY BIG CONCERNS FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BECAUSE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN IN THEIR VOICES NEED TO BE ADEQUATELY. CONNECTED WITH YOU UNDERSTAND? IT WAS A ZOOM MEETING. BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR AUDIENCE AND YOUR COMMUNITY WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DO TO REACH OUT AND BE MORE ENGAGED? UM THERE'S DIFFERENT AGE DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE EXAMPLE IS ZOOMING NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO REACH RIGHT. SO WHAT OTHER WAYS HAVE WE EXTENDED THE REACH TO GET TO THE CITIZENS AND SO SORRY. I WAS SPEAKING TOO LONG. OKAY ME WRAPPING UP NO WORRIES, PLAYING WITH BUTTONS. I KNOW. UH BUT THAT'S MY KEY TAKEAWAY, AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT. FROM A FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE CONDITION, BUT IT'S A SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION. SIX. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE THERE. 
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FIRST WENT BACK TO THE OLD. WELL, YOU WERE FIRST BEGIN WITH THAT WENT BACK TO THE OLD METHOD. I SAW THESE LIGHTS BECAUSE YOU DELETED ME WHAT JUST WIPED EVERYBODY OUT ORIGINALLY, SO I'VE GOT TO TOTALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PARIS IT'S. TO MEET AN AD. IT WAS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID NOT UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT. AT ALL. UM THERE IS A LANGUAGE BARRIER. THAT IS QUITE EVIDENT. THAT IS NO NOTHING NEGATIVE TO THEM. IT'S SIMPLY THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON. IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM IN ENGLISH, AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. IT WAS DONE OVER A ZOOM CALL. HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM DON'T KNOW WHAT A ZOOM CALL IS. LET'S LET'S GET MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT. IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO TONIGHT. BECAUSE I KNOW IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL. IF WE TURN IT DOWN. IT WILL GO AS AN APPEAL. IF WE APPROVE IT, IT'S STILL GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL. I WANT THE APPLICANT. TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT. TO GET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN HAVE SOME WAY IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. COMPLETELY. UM AND I THINK THEY CAN DO IT. I THINK THEY CAN DO IT, ESPECIALLY MAXWELL. I KNOW HE WILL BE VERY MUCH IN THE FOREFRONT OF GETTING THAT DONE. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S MY SUGGESTION RIGHT NOW. AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY I'M GOING TO VOTE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THIS? APPLICANT TO GET TO THE CITY COUNCIL. REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE VOTE IS TONIGHT. YES, SIR. DOUBLE CHECKING MY JUNE CALENDAR HERE, BUT IT IS SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 21ST OF JUNE SO THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TIME. YOU'RE SAYING SIT DOWN FACE TO FACE. IN THE APPLICANTS ALSO VERY WELL AWARE HE CAN ASK FOR AN EXTENSION IF HE NEEDS MORE TIME. OKAY? HE CAN. NO, WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T. THANK YOU. STATE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS. ALREADY. AND WAS THAT IT, MR COMMISSIONER, OKAY. ALRIGHTY. YEP. OH, GO AHEAD. UH I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING. OKAY? I'M KIND OF ON THE SAME SAME WAVELENGTH AS MANY OF YOU. LORD KNOWS WE NEED THIS KIND OF FACILITY. YOU KNOW, THE MORE THE BETTER BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE HURTING THAT NEED TREATMENT NEED TO GET BETTER. I JUST HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE LOCATION. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A SIMILAR PLACE, ALTHOUGH IT'S STILL OPEN. COUPLE 100 YARDS FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER WITHOUT THE QUESTION OF KIDS. AND SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN IN OUR G D. C IS WRITTEN. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 30 YEARS IF THEY ONLY MAKE IT TWO YEARS AND I HAVE EVERY ANSWER FAITH THAT THESE FOLKS WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY AND PROVIDE THE SECURITY. BUT AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PLACE ALREADY , IT'S GONE THROUGH TWO OPERATORS AND HIS VACANT IF WE ALLOW THIS USE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO 13 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN COME IN. AND YES, WE HAVE AN ISSUE P WE CAN PULL AN ISSUE P. BUT MY 35 YEARS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES. I DON'T KNOW OF AN SUV EVER BEING PULLED. WE HAVE A HAMMER THERE. THAT WE CAN USE, BUT IT'S MADE OUT OF NERVE IT IS, YOU KNOW, NOBODY USES IT. SO IN TILL THE CITY MAKES IT ASSURED THAT YOU KNOW, FOR SOME REASON, AND S U P WILL BE PULLED. THAT'S A LONG STRETCH FOR ME. SO AS OF NOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. BECAUSE OF LOCATION. COMMISSIONER ROSE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          TWO. APPROVED THE APPLICANT. REQUEST SUBJECT TO A 20 YEAR. S U P NINE AT 30 YEARS. SUBJECT TO AH! INSTALLING. UM AH, HAVE FENCE SECURITY FENCE. AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY FENCE ON TOP OF THE BRICK WALL AND OR ADDITIONAL TO THE BRICK WALL, PLUS INGRESS AND EGRESS THAT IS 
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TO PREVENT STRANGERS FROM COMING AND GOING. AH! YEAH AND THEY NEED TO HAVE PRIVATE SECURITY FOLKS THERE. UM. NO ONE ELSE. YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 18. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE 18. YEAH AND IT'S JUST DO YOU HAVE SOME REPEAT SOME OF THE YEAR AND YOU HAD SOME, TOO? RESTRICTED TO RESIDENTIAL INPATIENT ONLY. UH BECAUSE THEY HAVE THREE TIERS OF SERVICE, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL INPATIENT, PARTIAL HOSPITALIZATION AND OUTPATIENT, AND THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL IN PATIENTS ONLY. AH! AND PRIVATE ONLY NET PUBLIC. CORRECT OKAY? AND I BELIEVE IN DEFENSE YOU'VE COVERED THE SECURITY. OKAY? ANYWAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE WORDED LEGALLY, BUT THESE ARE ALL CONDITIONS OF THE S U P CORRECTOR. YES, I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY WORK ON WILL YOU WOULD DRAFT CONDITIONS, ACCORDING TO WHAT THE MOTION IS. OKAY? OKAY? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS CLARIFICATION ON THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE THAT WERE LISTING, UM , FOR THIS MOTION CONDITIONS AS I HAVE RECORDED THEM. WAS IT 20 YEAR S U P VERSUS 30 OFFENSE AROUND THE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES GATES. SECURITY FENCE. PRIVATE SECURITY. AT THE FACILITY. AND ITS RESIDENTIAL INPATIENT USE ONLY KNOW OUTPATIENT. AND IT IS A PRIVATE FACILITY, NOT A PUBLIC WHERE COURTS CAN ASSIGN PEOPLE TO I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT I HEARD. AND WE'VE GOT SOME CURRENTLY LEGAL COUNSELING GOING ON. AND MINIMUM AGE 18, AND I THINK THAT'S IN THERE. OPERATION. YEAH. OKAY? AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. HAVE EMOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? BUT I DON'T HEAR SECOND. THE MOTION COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ENORMOUS PLEASE FINISH THAT SENTENCE. WELL IF I DON'T HEAR A SECOND EMOTION WILL DIE FOR LACK OF STATE SECOND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GENERATE A NEW MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE APPLICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE. WE FAILED IF YOU WANT HIM OUT OF IT IF YOU WANT TO MODIFY THE AMENDMENT, SO YOU MAY WANT TO ASK THE MAKER THE MOTION IF HE'S GOING TO DO SO. I'M SORRY, MR. I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO SECOND TO THE MOTION. SO FAR, THERE IS NO SECOND THERE IS NO SECOND. OKAY SO I APOLOGIZE. NO. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO AMEND THE MOTION HE WAS MAKING SO NO, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE PD ITSELF BEFORE THE S U P A DETAILED PLAN. ALRIGHT SO THAT BE THE AMENDMENT TO THE P D AND S U P AND A DETAILED PLAN. IT'S A. YEAH YEAH, WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS ON THIS AND WE CAN SEPARATE THEM OUT. UH, YOU KNOW, ONE IS THE APPLICATION TO AMEND THE PD. THIS SECOND IS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. AND THE THIRD IS A DETAILED PLAN. OKAY MR CARON. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE P D. IS THAT TO ALLOW. USE OF AN S U P. IF IT'S APPROVED, THAT'S CORRECT. THE CURRENT PD LIMITS THE USE OF THE LAND TO THE NURSING CARER ASSISTED LIVING, SO IT TAKES AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD TO ALLOW UM THIS PARTICULAR USE BY S U P OR BY, RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, SO BY MOTIONING TO DENY THAT IT WOULD NEGATE THE OTHER TWO. YES, SIR. ALREADY SO WE HAVE A MOTION. TO DENY ITEM TO SEE WHICH IS THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN. GUARDIAN RECOVERY NETWORK REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 0 7-45. THAT IS THE MOTION AS IT IS. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND TO THAT MOTION, EITHER. OKAY? 
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WE'VE GOT A COUPLE HOURS BEFORE WE TAKE ANOTHER BREAK. WELL. COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND COMMISSIONER PAIRS AND WE JUST. AH VOID THIS AND PASS IT ON TO COUNCIL. LET THEM DEAL WITH IT. 
          NO, WE'RE HERE TO DO A JOB. I'M SORRY. THAT'S ONE OF MY RULES AS WE DO EMOTION AND WE APPROVE IT. 
          AND I THINK, GENTLEMEN, THE OFFICER AUDIENCE, THEY WOULD LIKE US TO DO THE SAME THING. 
          COMMISSIONER PAIRS DID NOT RECEIVE A SECOND. TO THE MOTION. THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT IS THE NEXT STEPS? WELL, NEXT STEP IS WE WAIT AROUND TILL SOMEBODY PROVIDES A MOTION THAT WE CAN AGREE ON. OKAY, THAT WE CAN VOTE ON. OKAY ALRIGHT. WE'RE BEGINNING TO SOUND MORE LIKE COUNCIL NOW. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY? CHANNEL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THE CHAIR CANNOT MAKE EMOTIONS SO I'M LUCKY IN THIS ONE. IT'S NOT MY JOB. COMMISSIONER. HOW ABOUT THIS? I THINK I. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OUTREACH IN BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL. THAT'S UNDENIABLE THAT WE ARE AN ADVISORY BODY. AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT ALREADY NOW, BUT I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE APPLICATION. AS PRESENTED. AND THAT WILL BE ALL THREE ITEMS. ALL THREE ITEMS, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER I AND A SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER JENKINS. OR COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. DID YOU SECONDED? OH, YEAH. OKAY WELL, YOU'VE BEEN SO QUIET ALL NIGHT. I DIDN'T EVEN HEARD THIS. I HEARD THE SNORING BUT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, BACK TO ALL SERIOUSNESS, FOLKS. IS THIS SERIOUS HERE? AND I'M THE WORST DAY THAT I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AT AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO DENY ITEMS TO C, D. AND E. THE APPLICATION IS SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. IN A DETAILED PLAN. AND I THINK THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT IN THE COUNCIL BOTH HAVE DIRECTION. AS TO WHAT'S BEING DONE. ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ROSE. OKAY SO IF THIS PASSES WHAT'S THE APPLICANTS NEXT? A PROCESS TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN EITHER WAY. AND THEY'LL PROBABLY WORK WITH STAFF AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE WITH ALL THE INPUT THEY'VE HAD TONIGHT. TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. OKAY, SO THE I'M SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY STILL HAVEN'T THE OPTION TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH THIS THING. MR FISHER? DEFINITELY. YEAH. YEAH. ALREADY ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS TO DENY. ITEMS. TWO CD ANY. ALRIGHTY. PLEASE QUOTE. IT PASSES 6 TO 1. 
          WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE AND OPPOSITION NOW, JUST SO EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE AS CITIZENS HERE THIS IS NOT THE END OF IT. WE HAVE. WE HAVE VOTED TO DENY, BUT IT GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT. AND THAT WILL BE SOMETIME IN JUNE, POSSIBLY JULY. AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU. ALSO A COUPLE OF YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND SEE IF YOU CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING. ALRIGHTY. THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. 
          YES. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JUNE 13TH WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. EVERYBODY APPRECIATE Y'ALL.
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