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TODAY IS JUNE THE SIXTH, 2022[Public Safety Committee on June 6, 2022.]
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING AT FOUR O'CLOCK.AND WE ARE IN THE MEETING THE FIRST AND THE FIRST THING.
AND THEN I CAN, THAT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY THE 14TH, 2022 MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BATH AND THEN SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, UH, THAT WE APPROVED THE RAISE HAND THAT'S APPROVED.
THE SECOND ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS REVIEW PROPOSAL CHANGE IN THE OVERSIZE VEHICLE ORDINANCE.
J I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO CITY ATTORNEY, MIKE BETS.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST CHANGE SEATS? I'LL JUST SCOOT IT DOWN.
MR. CHAIRMAN AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO WE WERE HERE LAST TIME AND, AND WE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME, UH, THE, UH, PROBLEM WITH OVERSIZED TRUCKS PARKING IN SOME OF OUR, UH, PARKING LOTS, ALSO OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, BUT WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH THEM PARKING IN SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS FOR SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT OTHERWISE HAVE TRUCKS LOCATED AT THEM, BUT THESE TRUCKS DON'T BELONG TO THAT BUSINESS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I POINTED OUT LAST TIME WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THE SCREEN BEHIND ME, IT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN BEHIND ME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ON THE SCREEN BEHIND ME.
SO WE'LL JUST DO IT FROM THE PAPER BECAUSE, UH, IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THE SECTION, UH, 32 57.
SO THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WHEN I TRIED TO FIX THIS ORDINANCES, THE ORDINANCE SAYS, WRITTEN, SAID OVERSIZED AND OTHER VEHICLES RESTRICTIONS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, BUT THEN IT IMMEDIATELY TALKS ABOUT NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
SO THAT WAS JUST A MISNOMER IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT SHOULD JUST SAY OVERSIZE AND OTHER VEHICLES, DASH RESTRICTIONS.
AND IN SUBSECTION B OF 32 57, UH, SHOWS YOU THE PROBLEM THAT I EXPLAINED LAST TIME.
IF YOU GO TO B THREE D, WHICH IS ON THE SECOND PAGE WHERE I FIXED IT AND READ ONE OF THE DEFENSES A PERSON HAD AGAINST PARKING IN A PLACE IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE WAS AT A BUSINESS THAT HAD A VALID CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO UTILIZE OR A PAIR OF OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
AND THE EXAMPLE I GAVE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS BTS FURNITURE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS.
SO BTS FURNITURE, THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ALLOWS THEM TO USE TRUCKS AND THEIR BUSINESS.
NOT SURPRISINGLY SINCE THEY DELIVER FURNITURE.
WELL, THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, WE COULDN'T REALLY WRITE A TICKET BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT BTS FURNITURE HAS A SPECIFIC OCCUPANCY FOR OVERSIZED TRUCKS AND WHAT THEY, WHAT WE REALLY MEANT WHEN WE WROTE THE ORDINANCE.
I DIDN'T WRITE THIS ORDINANCE.
IT WAS HERE LONG BEFORE I WAS EVER HERE AT THE CITY, WHICH IS NOW A LONG TIME, A BUSINESS AS A VALID CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO UTILIZE OR REPAIR OVERSIZED VEHICLES WHEN AUTHORIZED IN WRITING BY THE BUSINESS.
AND SO WHEN A TRUCK PULLS OFF OF
IT COMMON SENSE WHERE IT TOLD YOU IT HAD TO BE A TRUCK ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STATUTE SAID.
AND WE WERE LIMITED TO WHAT THE STATUTE SAID.
AND SO YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THIS UP THERE.
I'M NOT, WE HAVEN'T GOT SOME REALLY OLD WEIRDNESS GOING ON WITH THIS MACHINE.
DO I KEEP SENDING IT TO MIRROR DISPLAY? AND THEN I CAN SEE IT THERE, YOU CAN'T.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WON'T WORK.
SO I KEEP COMING HERE AND THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME TODAY, UPCOMING HERE, AND HAVE, UH, TRIED TO, UH,
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DUPLICATE DISPLAYS.AND I WANT TO KEEP THAT CHANGE.
I KEEP DOING THIS AND DOING THIS AND NOW I'LL GO BACK TO IT AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
AND SO, SO THE CHANGE THAT I TOLD THE, THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE ABOUT LAST TIME WAS, WAS THAT WE WOULD, UH, CHANGE IT AS IS WRITTEN IN SUBSECTION D HERE, RIGHT HERE, WHICH HAS WHEN AUTHORIZED IN WRITING BY THE BUSINESS.
AND SO BY MAKING THAT CHANGE, MY DEPUTIES WILL BE ABLE TO WRITE A CITATION.
I COULD TELL THEM BIGGER, WE'LL BE ABLE TO WRITE A CITATION AT THOSE BUSINESSES WHERE TRUCKS ARE ALL OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED TO PARK.
SO BTS, AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES.
NOW, AS YOU RECALL, I TOLD YOU THE PROBLEM IS, IS MULTIFACETED BECAUSE THE FACT THAT CAN GO RIGHT TO THEM, $25 TICKETS, DOESN'T REALLY, ISN'T REALLY GOING TO ACCOMPLISH A WHOLE LOT WHEN IT'S GOING TO COST THEM MORE THAN THAT TO MOVE THEIR TRUCK SOMEPLACE ELSE AND PARK IT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECOMMENDED LAST TIME WAS CHANGING THE FINES ON OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
THIS WOULDN'T JUST BE AT THOSE LOCATIONS, BUT EVEN FOR THE 18 WHEELERS TO PARK IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER PLACES WITH THE RECOGNITION THAT AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE PARKING IMPROPERLY CREATES A BIGGER PROBLEM, A BIGGER CONCERN TO OUR CITIZENS AND OTHER VEHICLES THAT PARK IN PROPERLY.
IF I PARK A CAR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I SHOULDN'T BE PARKED SOMEWHERE, IT TAKES UP, YOU KNOW, 18 FEET.
IF I PARK A 18 WHEELER WITH A TRAILER BEHIND IT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, IT TAKES UP THE WHOLE DARN BLOCK.
AND NOW NOBODY CAN PARK AND THEY'RE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS AND DOING ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS.
AND SO, UH, I TOLD YOU LAST TIME I WOULD COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL FOR, UH, THE FINE INCREASES.
IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS THE FINE AMOUNTS YOU WANT TO TAKE TO THE COUNCIL OR SOME DIFFERENT AMOUNTS.
I, WHAT I DID IS ESSENTIALLY MADE IT FROM 25, 50 75, WHICH USED TO BE FOR ALL VIOLATIONS TO OVERSIZE VIOLATIONS BEING 75, 101 50.
AND THE IDEA BEING THAT THE OVERNIGHT TRUCK PARKING PLACES ARE CHARGING 40 50 BUCKS TO PARK THESE TRUCKS.
IF YOU MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE, THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD GO SOMEPLACE ELSE AND PARK.
NOW, I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU INTO THINKING THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO PLACE ELSE TO GO PARK, ABSENT, TURNING AROUND, GOING BACK OUT AND
SOME OF THESE TRUCKS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF DIESEL AND HOW FEW MILES A GALLON THEY GET, YOU'VE GOT TO WONDER, ARE THEY GOING TO DRIVE 10, 15, 20 MILES TO A TRUCK STOP? THAT HAS A SPOT, YOU KNOW, THE ONES CLOSEST TO GARLAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE ON I 30, I THINK EQUIPMENT FAILURE HAVING AN ALLERGY ATTACK, UH, MANY OF THOSE GET FILLED UP.
AND SO, SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY, PEOPLE WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE TO 20, 25 MILES BACK TO GET A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PARK THIS TRUCK.
AND WHILE THE TRUCK STOPS, WHICH YOU COULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF REALISTICALLY, OVER $75, FINE, ARE THEY GOING TO DRIVE 25 MILES BACK AND 25 MILES THIS WAY? SO THEY'RE GONNA SPEND AN HOUR ON THE ROAD, PLUS ALL THAT DIESEL FUEL THAT THEY USE TO DO IT.
I DON'T THINK THIS WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I THINK IT'LL HELP THE PROBLEM BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE PARK, CAUSE THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE DISSUADED.
THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE DISSUADED BECAUSE THEY WILL GET A $75.
TAKE IT THE FIRST TIME THEY DO IT, A HUNDRED DOLLARS TICKET.
THE SECOND TIME THEY DO IT IN $150 TICKET FOR ALL THE REST OF THEM AND IN THE 12 MONTH PERIOD, AND IT BECOME PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
UM, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE WOULD TOW EVERY TRUCK THAT WE FOUND IN VIOLATION.
AND DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE GET THAT HAVE EVEN FIVE OR MORE WHERE WE ORDINARILY WOULD TOW, HOW MANY OF THOSE WE WOULD TELL BECAUSE OUR TOW LOT CAN ONLY TAKE SO MANY VEHICLES AND THESE TAKE UP A LOT OF ROOM.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ROOM IN GARLAND, IN OUR TOW IMPOUND, LOT
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TO TELL ALL THE ILLEGALLY PARKED TRUCKS WE'VE RUN INTO EVERY DAY.SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE.
THE REASON THAT I SAID THIS WAS NOT FOR THE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THAT TOWN IN THEIR PARK, ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH COMPANY.
YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE OPEN AND SAY, YEAH, WHAT I'M SAYING.
I I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE UNDERSTANDINGS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GUYS THAT COME AND PARK THEIR TRUCKS AND LEAVE IT THERE FOR A WEEK.
YOU, WE GET THEM OR, OR THEY MOVED THEIR TRUCK AND PUT THE CAR THERE.
SO, SO HERE'S WHERE WE SEE, WE SEE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF VIOLATIONS.
WE SEE THAT WE SEE THAT PEOPLE WHO THEIR HOME, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT THAT WEEK AND RATHER THAN PAY FOR TRUCK STORAGE SOMEWHERE, THEY PARK IN BTS PARKING LOT OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEN THEY LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS WILL BE PRETTY EFFECTIVE AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BECOME QUICKLY EXPENSIVE AND THEY'VE RETURNED TO GARLAND THE PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE AGAINST, OR THE GUY WHO'S COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN.
AND HE SHOWS UP AND HE WANTS TO UNLOAD AT WALMART.
BUT BECAUSE WALMART'S SHORT ON PEOPLE TO UNLOAD TRUCKS, I TELL HIM, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND TOMORROW MORNING, OH, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DELIVER TODAY, BUT WE HAVE NOBODY TO UNLOAD YOUR TRUCK TODAY.
AND THEY GO AND THEY DRIVE UP THE ROAD AND PARK BEATTY'S PARKING LOT AND THEY STAY OVERNIGHT.
WE COULD WRITE THEM A TICKET AND WE WILL RUN THE $75 TICKET.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT MORNING TO WALMART UNLOADED.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO PORTLAND AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I GOT A PARKING TICKET AND GIRL, AND I'M NOT COMING BACK TO GARLAND AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BACK.
AND SO WE'RE NEVER GOING TO COLLECT ON THOSE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEM.
AND I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT HALF AND HALF.
HALF OF THEM ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WHAT WE'VE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH LATELY IS I'VE HAD THE PEOPLE, MY, MY FOLKS NOW START CALLING.
SO DOD REGISTERS, ALL THESE TRUCKS HAVE A DEITY NUMBER ON THE SIDE.
AND I SAY, THEY TELL ME, WELL, THE TRUCK'S STILL HERE AND HOW WE'VE WROTE A TICKET.
IF I SAID YOU DIDN'T CALL IT, LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET DLT NUMBER.
IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS OF A BUSINESS AND A PHONE NUMBER.
I SAID, YOU CALL THEM AND THEY GET THEM ON THE PHONE.
WE'RE UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO TOW THIS 18 WHEELER AWAY.
IF YOU'RE OUT HERE IN TWO HOURS AND WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY CALL THE DISPATCHER CALLS, THE GUY WHO HAS A TRUCK AND SAYS, THE POLICE JUST CALLED HIM.
THEY'RE GOING TO TOW THIS TRUCK AWAY.
AND SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DISAPPEARING.
SOME WE CAN'T GET AN ANSWER ON THE WEEKENDS AT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A DOD PLACE, BUT IT'S GOT, NOBODY ANSWERS THE PHONE.
AND SO WE LEAVE A MESSAGE, BUT HOW CAN WE GET BACK? YOU KNOW, ALL WE CAN DO IS IN THE PAST, WE WERE WRITING THEM $25 TICKETS.
SO WHAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT IS, I THINK THAT THE FIRST FIX DOWN THE BOTTOM HERE IS THE RIGHT FIX, BECAUSE I THINK WE DON'T INTEND FOR A TRUCK.
THAT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS TO BE PARKING.
YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL OVER TOWN.
YOU'VE SEEN IN PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE, THEY JUST PUT A POLE IN THERE WHILE THE SHOPPING CENTER HAS THE RIGHT TO USE TRUCKS, SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO IT'S PART OF THEIR CEO, BUT NOT THOSE TRUCKS, NOT THOSE TRUCKS AND THIS FIXES THAT PROBLEM.
THE MORE DIFFICULT MATTER FOR THE COMMITTEE WILL BE TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE FINE IS 75, 101 50, THE APPROPRIATE FINE.
WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON ADMINISTRATIVE VIOLATIONS.
UH, NOT MAKING THEM TOO GREAT BECAUSE REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET A JURY TRIAL, THEY GET A HEARING EXAMINER.
THEY CAN GO TO THE HEARING EXAMINER AND LISTEN TO A HEARING EXAMINER.
AND THE HEARING OFFICER WILL LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND DECIDE THEIR CASE.
BUT WE NEED TO BE, UH, CIRCUMSPECT AND NOT BEING TOO AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS SO THAT THE STATE DOESN'T DECIDE, OH, YOU SHOULDN'T BE, AND THEN SHUT IT DOWN LIKE THEY DID WITH THE RED LIGHT PROGRAM.
SO, OKAY, WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING THAT MUCH MONEY FOR PARKING TICKETS.
I THINK THESE ARE EXCEPTIONAL PARKING TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'RE 18 WHEELERS AND OTHER OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
THEY'RE NOT LIKE ORDINARY VEHICLES, BUT THE AMOUNT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO DECIDE.
IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION, IF WE DOUBLED IT COMPARED TO THE REGULAR SIZE VEHICLES, THEN IT WOULD BE 5,101.
I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN THAT'S NOT TOO EGREGIOUS ON THE FIRST LINE ON THE FIRST OFFENSE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOUBLING EACH OF THEM.
WELL, WE AREN'T, I'LL TELL, I'LL TELL YOU MY THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT WAS JUST THAT THE COST OF TRUCKS, STORAGE BEING AROUND 40 BUCKS A NIGHT, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, IS $50 GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE OVER A 40 TO 50 WHERE A 75 MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
CAUSE THE GUY WILL HAVE ALREADY PARKED THERE AND WE'LL PULL THE TICKET OFF HIS WINDSHIELD WHEN HE GETS BACK AND SAY, WELL, THAT COSTS ME 75 BUCKS.
MAYBE HE'LL THINK NEXT TIME IT'LL BE 75 BUCKS AND HOOK IT BACK AND BE SURPRISED.
IT'D BE A HUNDRED BUCKS, BUT I I'M NOT WED TO ANY OF THE NUMBERS.
I KIND OF JUST USED THEM AS A PLACE TO START TO DISCUSS.
SO I'M 50 50 WOULD WORK AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S A MORE SEVERE FINE.
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THE, UH, 40, 40 ORANGE NAME THAT I WORKED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF TRYING TO PUT THEM IN THERE BECAUSE THEY SOLD THAT COMPANY THAT THE OWNERS SOLD THE BUSINESS TO ANOTHER, AND THEN THEY SOLD IT TO ANOTHER AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, NO GUIDANCE OR ANYTHING.YOU'RE NOT CHARGING FOR PARKING PER MONTH.
THERE IS NOTHING, $240 A MONTH.
THE WHOLE MONTH YOU CAN PARK IT.
YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR THE WHOLE MONTH IS $240.
WHAT DO THEY CHARGE BY THE NINTH? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NIGHT, BUT THEY HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.
I WAS GOING TO TELL HER TO COME OVER HERE TODAY, BUT SHE HAD OTHER COMMITMENTS.
LIKE THEY DON'T LIKE THEY COULDN'T COME EVERY OTHER DAY.
OH NO, THEY DIDN'T COME EVERY DAY.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THEM IN THE TWO 40.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PARK IT AND THEN NOT GET IT.
THEY HAVE UNLIMITED ACCESS FOR THAT TO WORK.
THEY CAN COME SATURDAY OR ANY TIME I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS LADY AND THEN OVER HERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT G CHARGES, BUT A LOT OF THIS GUY DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY.
WELL AGAIN, THE ONES WHO LIVE IN TOWN THAT WOULD BE A SOLUTION FOR A GUY WHO'S HERE TO DELIVER A WALMART LOAD.
IT'S NOT GOING TO PAY A $240 MONTHLY CHARGE WHEN HE'S HERE ONE NIGHT, HE'S GOING TO PAY THE NIGHTLY CHARGE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS FROM THE INDUSTRY REP, WHO IS HE, WHO WAS, UH, BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE OR SOMEBODY A FEW WEEKS, A FEW MONTHS BACK, UH, HE SAID THAT THEY WERE CHARGING LIKE $40 A NIGHT FOR TRUCK STORAGE ON THE NIGHTLY RATES.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THE 75.
IS IT JUST, IT WAS FAR ENOUGH NORTH OF, OF THE, THE, UH, $50 SET, UH, YOU KNOW, $40.
OH, THERE IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GUYS THAT CAN THAT PARK 18 WHEELERS OR 40, OR IS YOUR NAME IS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON DISTRICT FIVE.
WE PASS OVER THERE BY WOUND STORE.
I THINK IT'S CLOSE TO THE WOODS.
HE, HE JUST HAS ROOM FOR 20 TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, BUT TELL GUYS, AND DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT TWO 40, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD DO 44 FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.
AND YOU, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT, IF YOU'RE OUT, YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR THERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR THERE AND YOU TAKE YOUR DRUGS, BUT THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL TRUCK WORKING FOR A COMPANY OR ANYTHING.
WELL, I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THE 75 FOR EASE OF NUMBERS.
UM, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING CHARGING FEES OR ANY OTHER CITIES I'M NOT TAKING TAKE DALLAS OUT OF THE EQUATION.
SO TAKE THE CITY OF DALLAS OUT OF THE EQUATION.
ANY OTHER GRANDPARENTS, THE URBANS ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? IT DEPENDS.
SO DALLAS, DALLAS HAS A SEPARATE ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM LIKE WE HAVE, AND THEY HAVE FEES TO TAKE THEM OUT.
GRAND PRAIRIE HAS JUST GONE RECENTLY TO A ADMINISTRATIVE.
IN FACT, THEY CALLED ME BECAUSE THAT, HEY, WE HEARD YOU SET THIS UP THERE.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE SMALLER CITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A HEARING OFFICER.
SO THEY DO CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT.
AND SO THE CRIME LAW ENFORCEMENT, THOSE FINES STARTED 200 PLUS DOLLARS.
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE, IN THE, IN THE TIME BEFORE WE TOOK OVER PARKING THE ENTIRE YEAR BEFORE THAT WE ONLY HAD LIKE 30 SUCCESSFUL PARKING TICKETS THAT WERE PAID.
IT WAS ALL A VERY SMALL NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEN IT WAS, IT WAS RIDICULOUSLY SMALL BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS FINDING SOMEBODY $200.
CAUSE THEY'RE PARKED OVER THE SIDEWALK, SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MUCH.
AND, AND SO THE CODE FOLKS WOULD GO OUT AND TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND GET HIM TO MOVE AND GET HIM TO MOVE AND, AND ALL THE REST OF THIS STUFF.
AND WE USED THE PUBLIC INTO A MODEL OF, OKAY, THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE REALLY BIG FINES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FINED EVERY TIME YOU PARKED THERE AND WE WILL FIND YOU.
YOU SEE MUCH LESS PARKING OVER THE SIDEWALKS AND MUCH LESS PARKING IN SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THEY USED TO PARK, UH, THAT WERE PROBLEMATIC.
BUT GRAND PRAIRIE WENT WITH THE 25, 50, 75, AT LEAST WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME, THEY WERE GOING TO THEY'RE ABOUT TO GO TO THIS.
THEY WERE CALLING ME TO ASK ABOUT THE VENDOR IF THEY HAD TO DO SOME WORK ON OUR STATUTE, BECAUSE I
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POINTED OUT THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE IN STANFORD HEARINGS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THEY HADN'T SET THE PROGRAM UP.AND I SAID, YOU REALLY NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LAWYER LOOK AT IT, THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULD ADOPT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE STATE LAW TO DO IT.
BUT THEY WERE LOOKING AT 25, 50, 75 FOR CARS.
I TOLD HIM WHEN HE CALLED ME ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO OR WHATEVER IT WAS, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, WE WERE CONSIDERING RAISING THE FEE FOR OVERSIZED TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE OF A PROBLEM.
WE GET MORE COMPLAINTS ON THEM IN THERE, BUT THE COMPLAINTS ARE MORE ANIMATED FROM RESIDENTS WHO HAVE 18 WHEELERS PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UH, AND HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THEY WOULD INTO THAT TOO.
I HAVEN'T UNDERTAKEN A SURVEY FOR THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE A ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST DALLAS FORT WORTH GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND I THINK ARLINGTON, MAYBE GOING TO IT, BUT MOSTLY THE CITIES ARE DOING STILL CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT, WHICH, WHICH THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT OF COURSES, HOW DO I PROVE A PERSON PARKED A CAR THERE? I CAN'T PROVE A PERSON PARKED THE CAR THERE.
SO WHO DO I CONVICT OVER THERE? AND IT DIDN'T WORK.
I'M GOING TO KEEP WANTING TO GO THERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, I SENT, OF COURSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT READY TO IN SERNA.
I LIKE, I LIKE YOU GOT CHANGE THERE, THE FEE.
UM, I'M READY TO, NOT THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT GUY'S WILLING TO PAY, WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THEIR POCKET BOOKS, WHETHER THEY WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY IN THAT, THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT AND EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT.
I'LL GO TO THE LAST, THE CHANGE WHEN OTHERWISE IN WRITING AND BY OTHER BUSINESS, OF COURSE THERE IS, LET'S SEE IF I CAN CREATE A REAL ARTIST.
UM, LIKE WHEN, WHEN AGREE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE MONSTERS THEY GET, UH, YOU ASSIST.
AND THEN IT SAYS WHEN AUTHORIZED IN WRITING, WHENEVER YOU GUYS SHOW UP OR WHAT A RICK'S GOT TO SHOW UP, OR EVEN CHIEF'S GUYS HAVEN'T WHO HAPPENED TO BE AN AREA THAT'S BEEN SHOW UP.
AND SINCE WHEN I WAS WHERE I WAS SAYING, LIKE WHO, WHO HAS TO HAVE THE PROOF THAT HE'S BEEN AUTHORIZED AND READY, LET ME THROW OUT A NET WITH EVERY QUESTION.
UM, AND DO I HAVE TO CARE THAT IF I, IF I KNOW MR. PARKER BTS, BTS V AS HAVE HAD, THEY'VE HAD NO, NO PARKING SIGNS ON THAT BY THE MONTH, 400 YEAR, WE'LL TELL YOU A WAY THEY SAY, I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYONE OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT.
THEY'VE NEVER TOLD ANYBODY, WELL, YOU THINK THEY PAY THEM? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT THEY'VE GOT SOME NICE SIDE.
UH, SO LET'S ADDRESS THAT WHO, OH, UH, LET ME ADDRESS THOSE, THAT QUESTION.
SO THE, THE STATUTE SAYS IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IN FRONT OF DEFENSE MEANS SOMETHING LEGALLY.
IT MEANS THE PERSON WHO IS CHARGED HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE IT TO US.
THE REASON THE STATUTE WAS PROBLEMATIC FOR US BEFORE THE CHANGE IS IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE.
AND IT SAID THAT THERE WAS A VALID CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
WE KNOW THAT BTS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A VALID CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO HAVE OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
WE KNOW THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY DELIVER FURNITURE.
WE COULDN'T WRITE THOSE TICKETS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE, WE KNEW THE FACTS WERE THAT THEY WERE NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
AND SO WHEN I, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROBLEM, I WENT BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS? WELL, THE PROBLEM IS WE SHOULD MAKE IT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED BY BTS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN, WE'D WRITE THEM A TICKET.
IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE KNOW WHO THE BTS TRUCKS ARE, AND WE KNOW WHOSE TRUCKS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS, WE JUST GO IN AND ASK THE MANAGER WHO'S TRUCKS THAT I DON'T KNOW.
THEN WE'D GO OUT AND WRITE THEM A TICKET.
HE'D HAVE TO SHOW UP WITH SOMETHING IN WRITING GETS TO THE SECOND ISSUE.
WHAT IF THEY'RE ALLOWING THEM TO PARK, THEY ARE CHARGING TO PARK THERE.
WELL, I TALKED TO RICK PARKER ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY, AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE GOOD THING ABOUT CHANGING IT THIS WAY.
IT'S GOTTA BE AUTHORIZED IN WRITING BY THE BUSINESS.
SO IF YOU GIVE SOMEBODY A $75 TICKET, HE'S GOT TO COME DOWN TO THE HEARING.
OFFICER WAS THE COPY OF A LETTER.
I AUTHORIZE THIS GUY TO PARK HERE.
IF IT'S NOT A TRUCK, THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THAT BUSINESS DOING BUSINESS FOR THEM.
IT'S JUST SOME RANDOM TRUCK THAT CAME OFF THE FREEWAY AND HE'S PAYING 50 BUCKS.
I'LL MAKE A COPY OF THE LETTER AT THE HEARING OFFICER, WE CALL RICK'S FOLKS SAY THEY'RE IN VIOLATION
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OF THEIR CEO IN VIOLATION OF CEO.CAUSE SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT JUST SELLING FURNITURE.
I DON'T KNOW, THRIVES UNDER THEIR CEO TO DO TRUCK STORAGE.
SO THIS, THIS HAS THE ADDITIONAL FEATURE OF SOLVING THE SECOND PROBLEM BY PUTTING IT THIS WAY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE DID IT THIS WAY.
THAT CLARIFIES AND, AND, AND RICK'S RICK'S TEAM WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ME IN TALKING THROUGH THIS AND DISCUSSING IT WITH ME.
AND WE, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IF WE DID IT THIS WAY, IT WOULD SOLVE BOTH OF THOSE PROBLEMS. ONE, IT WOULD LET US WRITE THE TICKETS.
AND TWO, IT WOULD LET US FIGURE OUT WHICH PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE IN VIOLATION OR COO.
SO WE'D GO OUT AND WRITE THEM A SEPARATE TICK.
LAST QUESTION YOU WANT TO GET TO.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD TOO, SO WE'RE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM.
IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, WHAT, UH, IF, IF THIS COMMITTEE, WE MOVE FORWARD FOR COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THIS IS APPROVED, HEY, NEXT STEP, HOW DISRUPT, WHAT DOES THAT PUSH OUT OF THIS TO SAY, PARTICULARLY THE ONE THAT SPACE TWO, WE JUST LEFT.
HOW DO WE GET THE, HOW DO WE GET THE WORD OUT? AND WILL THAT BE A QUOTE, RACE PERIOD? SO WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WOULD THAT PIECE OF? SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE THE INDUSTRY FOLKS, THERE WAS AN INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE AND I STILL HAVE HIS BUSINESS CARD WHO CAME TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.
I'VE REACHED BACK OUT TO HIM AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE ABOUT TO PUSH THIS OUT.
IT GOES, LIVE, GOES LIVE 38 SINCE IT'S ALSO, ALTHOUGH IT'S A CIVIL OFFENSE, IT'S ALSO A PENAL OFFENSE.
AND SINCE AS A PENALTY IT'S ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT GOES LIVE 30 DAYS AFTER WE PASSED THE ORDINANCE.
DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I THINK WE PUT THIS OUT TO THE INDUSTRY GROUPS AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO LET YOUR FOLKS KNOW.
AND WHEREVER YOU TELL YOUR FOLKS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY AND THIS AREA THAT THEY NEED TO STOP PARKING IN THESE LOTS, THAT THEY DON'T BELONG IN, AND THAT THE FINES HAVE GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY, YOU KNOW? AND, AND WOULD WE GIVE WARNINGS? UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY, DURING THE GRACE PERIOD WOULD GIVE WARNINGS OR CONTINUE TO GIVE THE $25 TICKETS.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE'VE WRITTEN LOTS OF TICKETS AND IT'S ALMOST COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE.
THE TICKETS THEMSELVES ARE INEFFECTIVE.
SO I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW MUCH THE TELLING THE WORLD ABOUT THIS WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
AND IT GOES TO THE POINT THAT BOYFRIEND AND TICKETS IN THESE PLACES FOR THESE TRUCKS, WHEN NOT IN THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE LOTS LIKE BTS, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE SIDE ROADS AND PLACES, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE STATUTORY AMBIGUITY THAT WE FIXED, WE'VE WRITTEN THESE TICKETS AND THAT TRUCK DRIVES OFF.
AND AN HOUR LATER, ANOTHER TRUCK PULLS IN, SEES AN EMPTY SPOT AND SAYS, I CAN FIT MY TRUCK IN THERE AND PARKS THERE AND WANDERS OFF.
AND, AND SO, I MEAN, WE, WE CERTAINLY WOULD PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE ON OUR PARKING WEBSITE.
WE CERTAINLY ASKED THE INDUSTRY FOLKS TO LET THEIR PEOPLE KNOW, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT GETTING NOTICED TO A DISCRETE SUBSET OF PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY HALF OF WHICH PROBABLY AT LEAST DON'T LIVE IN GARLAND WILL BE PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE.
I HAVE JUST A SECOND AGO WE HAD SOMEBODY CAUSE HE CAME BACK CARS.
I REMEMBER THAT WAS THE GUY FROM THE INDUSTRY CAME HERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THE GUY'S NAME, JENNIFER.
I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO, SO I WOULD PUSH IT OUT TO HIM AND SAY, PLEASE LET YOUR MEMBERS KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
THANK YOU, MR. YOU OKAY WITH IT? SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I WILL PUT THIS IN, IN ORDINANCE FORM AND PUT IT ON A WORK SESSION.
IT WILL JUST BE, IT LOOKED LIKE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
LIKE I'LL JUST DO, I MADE IT, I DID IT THIS WAY.
SO IT'D BE EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE THEN ALL THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THERE FOR THE COMMITTEE, BUT FOR THE COUNCIL, I'LL HAVE THIS STEM, I'LL HAVE THIS TO SHOW THEM, BUT I'LL PUT IT IN AN ORDINANCE FORM, UH, AND BRING IT BACK.
AND YOU CAN, I GUESS IT'S GOING TO BE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE THIS OUT SO THAT MORA HAS IT FOR THE MINUTES.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESS, PEOPLE LIKE WALMART TARGET, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF PLACES TO PUT THE DESERT INDIVIDUALS PARK ON ROADSIDE
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PARK ON ANY, YEAH.TH THEY'RE NOT THE TRUCKS OWNED BY WALMART, BUT THEN THE OTHER DISTRIBUTORS WHO SOMETIMES JUST THIRD-PARTIES, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE INDEPENDENCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET TO THE PEOPLE THAT BRING HIS PAIN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT PARKED THEIR 18 WHEELERS ON NOW, RESIDENTIAL STREET OR PARKING LOT OF A SHOPPING CENTER, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T BELONG THERE.
THAT'S THE ONES THAT WERE DRIVING.
SO DO WE, CAN WE GET A MOTION SORT OF MORE HAS IT FOR THE MINUTES, I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM SECOND BEST AND SACRUM FROM WILLIAM.
TH THE MOTION IS TO, UH, TO FINISH THIS ORDINANCE, BRING THIS TO COUNSEL, BRING IT TO COUNSELING OR THAT, YEAH, I WILL DO THAT AND GET IT ON A WORK SESSION FOR JULY.
UM, THE FIRST WEEK IN JULY IS JULY 4TH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL SCHEDULE IS THAT WEEK.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE AT THAT, OR MAYBE THE FIELD.
I THINK THE FAIL, THE FIFTH IS GOING TO BE A JOINT MEETING.
WE PROBABLY COULD DO IT THE 18TH THAT FINE.
SO I WILL ASK TO BE HONEST, I WILL ASK JULY.
I WILL ASK THEM TO PUT ON THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN JULY.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING ON THE FOURTH? THEY'RE DOING IT BACK TO BACK ON THE FIFTH.
IT SHOULD BE THE FIFTH AND SIXTH, FIFTH AND SIXTH.
SO LET'S DO THE 18TH SO I WILL HAVE IT BACK.
I'LL UH, I'LL GET IT PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 18TH.
WE'LL DO IT AS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE UPDATE.
WE'LL DO THE UPDATE THAT NIGHT AND I'LL PRESENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL AND BACKWARDS ON MY CALENDAR.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REALITY IN THAT SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T KNOW, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION A BEAT NOW BEAT UPDATE SAFETY SYSTEMS. THAT'S ME COMMITTEE.
IF YOU REMEMBER, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE HAD OPENING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FLOCK SYSTEM AND WHAT I'VE TOLD THE COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT I'VE TOLD COUNCIL IS THAT COME BACK AND GIVE AN UPDATE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF DO BOTH.
I'M GOING TO UPDATE, UM, THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UPDATED COUNCIL I'LL UPDATE COUNCIL.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FLUX SAFETY SYSTEM, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE FLOCK CAMERAS.
WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THEIR SYSTEM CALLED RAVEN, WHICH IS THEIR GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM.
AND I'LL START WITH THE RAVEN DISCUSSION.
UH, I CAN PROVIDE YOU THIS MAP, BUT THIS IS THE MAP THEY HAVE GIVEN ME.
UM, THIS IS WHERE THE RAVEN SYSTEM WILL BE PLACED.
AND THIS IS BASED ON THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF GUNSHOT CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE THE CELL CELEBRATORY GUNSHOT CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE.
SO YOU CAN SEE ONE SQUARE MILE ON WALNUT, JUST EAST OF PLANO, ONE SQUARE MILE AROUND AVENUE D AND MILLER, AND THEN ONE SOUTH OF THERE, UH, KIND OF SATURDAY.
AND KINGSLEY'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE RAVEN SYSTEM WILL BE.
NOW, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE RAVEN SYSTEM, IT KEEPS GET PUSHED BACK ABOUT THE INSTALLATION BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES, GETTING THEIR EQUIPMENT.
AND SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PLACE THOSE UP.
THE LAST THEY TOLD US WAS JULY.
I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE UP IN JULY.
UH, I'M THINKING AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, UH, BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO GET THE EQUIPMENT IN, BUT THEY HAVE TO INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT.
CAN YOU SEE THE YELLOW? SO THAT'S A SQUARE MILE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE COVERED FOR THE RAVEN GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM.
AND I CAN SEND THESE OUT TO THE COMMITTEE, THIS MAP OUT TO THE COMMITTEE.
I PRINTED THIS, UH, RIGHT BEFORE I GOT HERE.
SO EACH ONE OF THOSE BLOCKS IS ONE SQUARE MILE.
WHEN WE PURCHASED THE FLOCK SYSTEM, YOU, YOU, IT WAS A PROMOTION SYSTEM TO GET ONE SQUARE MILE OF COVERAGE OF THE GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM FOR EACH 15 CAMERAS, FLOP CAMERAS THAT WE PURCHASED AND WE PURCHASED 45 FLOP CAMERAS.
SO THAT GAVE US THREE SQUARE MILES OF GUNSHOT DETECTION, UH, COVERAGE.
NOW, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY.
UH, WE ARE ONE OF THE TEST CASES OF THIS.
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WE'RE GETTING THIS FREE OF CHARGE FROM FLOCK.UH, FOR ONE YEAR, THAT'LL GIVE US A CHANCE TO ONCE IT'S AN INSTALLED, GET US A CHANCE TO TEST IT AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'D LIKE NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE STARTED IN ALL THREE OF THESE AREAS.
THERE WILL BE ALL THREE AREAS.
HOW DID WE CHOOSE THESE BY THE, UH, THE NUMBER OF GUNSHOT CALLS THAT WE RECEIVED? SO IF I WERE TO PUT A HEAT MAP WITH A GUNSHOT CALLS, THIS WOULD BE THE REDDEST OF THE AREAS.
UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TEST THIS FOR A YEAR OR SO.
SEE IF WE CAN SUPPRESS THE NUMBER OF GUNSHOTS, UH, IF WE CAN MAKE IT WHERE THAT AREA IS NOT SO RED, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE THE SYSTEM, UH, THE SYSTEM TO OTHER AREAS, OR WE CAN EXPAND ON IT EITHER WAY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RAVEN SYSTEM I WENT ON, I TRIED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL INSTRUMENTS THEMSELVES, ARE THEY MOBILE? HOW VISIBLE, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S SET UP WELL, DID THE RAVEN SYSTEM, THE RAYBAN SYSTEM IS NOTHING MORE THAN A MICROPHONE.
AND SO THE RAVEN SYSTEM IS NOT, IT CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE, TO THE FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PLACE IT CAN BE ATTACHED, BUT IT'S A MICROPHONE.
AND, AND WHAT THE BRAINS OF THE SYSTEM IS, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE.
AND THE BRAINS OF THE SYSTEM IS HOW THEY TRIANGULATE USING X NUMBER OF MICROPHONES TO PINPOINT THE LOCATION OF THE GUNSHOT.
BUT THE, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY DISCREET.
UM, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST A SMALL MICROPHONE THAT I'D HAVE TO POINT OUT TO YOU AND SHOW YOU FOR YOU TO SEE IT.
NOW, THE PROP SYSTEM, YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN, YOU COULD PROBABLY DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD NOW AND SEE THIS.
MR. SO, UM, WHO INSTALLS THE SYSTEM AND THEN WHO MONITORS IT? THE FLOCKS SAFETY? UH, SO THE FLOCK SAFETY, THE COMPANY INSTALLS THE SYSTEM.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO ASK TO MOVE THE SYSTEM, THEY WOULD ALSO MOVE THE SYSTEM.
NOW THE MONITORING IS DONE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO IF YOU'RE A PATROL OFFICER AND YOU'RE WORKING IN THE AREA OF, LET'S SAY, UH, MILLER AND GARLAND ROAD, AND THERE'S A GUNSHOT IN THAT AREA, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN ALERT ON YOUR COMPUTER THAT SAYS, WE'VE JUST DETECTED A GUNSHOT.
IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE AUDIO SO YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE GUNSHOT.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO PINPOINT THE LOCATION WHERE THE GUNSHOT IS COMING FROM.
IT ALSO SENDS THAT NOTIFICATION TO DISPATCH.
AND SO THE OFFICER WORKING IN THE STREET WOULD SAY, I JUST GOT THIS NOTIFICATION A GUNSHOT DISTURBANCE, THAT X ADDRESS, AND THEN SEND HIM BACK UP AND HE RESPONDS TO THAT LOCATION.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING, I MEAN, OF COURSE I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING, RIGHT.
BUT I MEAN, YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT BACKFIRES FIREWORKS OR ANY KIND OF LOUD NOISE THAT RESEMBLES A GUNSHOT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS HOW ACCURATE THE SYSTEM IS AND WHAT KIND OF, SO, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, RIGHTFULLY SO, RIGHT.
WE'RE KIND OF LIKE GUINEA PIGS, GUINEA PIGS HERE ON IT.
SO WHAT KIND OF BURDEN IS THAT GOING TO BE PLACING ON OUR PATROL OFFICERS? WELL, WE'RE CURIOUS HOW ACCURATE THE SYSTEM IS AS WELL.
AND THERE WILL BE A TRIAL AND ERROR PERIOD.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT WE, ARE WE, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO DO IT FOR A YEAR? UH, NO, WE CAN TERMINATE AT ANY TIME.
UH, UH, I DON'T SEE, UH, A REASON NOT TO DO IT THE FULL YEAR.
UH, THERE'LL BE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES.
THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS SYSTEM TO WORK.
UM, WE WANT A GOOD GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM AND AFFORDABLE GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM.
THE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE SHOTSPOTTER FOR EXAMPLE, IS VERY ACCURATE AND SHOTSPOTTER, UM, CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A BACKFIRE, A FIREWORK AND A GUNSHOT.
NOW THERE'S A CERTAIN DEGREE, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF ACCURACY, BUT IT'S VERY ACCURATE.
AND SO IS, IS, THIS IS, UH, UH, A MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE VERSION OF GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM, BUT IS IT JUST AS ACCURATE? WE DON'T KNOW YET.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR CARS BACKFIRE, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT YOU'RE INSIDE THE HOUSE, YOU SHOULDN'T BOTHER YOU UP HERE, MAN.
BUT IF YOU HAD, UM, IF YOU HAD THE CORRECT TECHNOLOGY, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE CONCUSSION OF A GUNSHOT AND THE, AND THEN LIKE THE ECHO OF A BACKFIRE.
AND YOU'RE LIKE, IS THAT A GUNSHOT? OR IS THAT, IS THAT A CAR? AND NOWADAYS THE
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KIDS, UH, THEY BUILD THEIR CARS IN A WAY TO INTENTIONALLY WHERE THEY'LL BACKFIRE, WHICH IS IT, YOU KNOW, THEY REMIND ME OF THE OLD BACK IN THAT DAY, 57, YOU KNOW, THEY PRESSED THE GAS ON THE CAR AND THE CAR GOES FAST AND THEN THEY LET GO AND THEN GO AND IT BACKFIRES YOU.SO THAT'S THE RAVEN SYSTEM AND I'LL MOVE ON TO THE FLOCK.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR THAT.
SO THAT, THAT IS GOING FORWARD AND I'LL UPDATE COUNCIL AND, UH, I'LL WELL, I'LL GET CALLS FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WONDERING WHEN IS THE SHOTS, UH, DETECTION SYSTEM GOING TO BE IN PLACE.
AND SO I'LL UPDATE COUNCIL ON WHERE WE ARE IN TWO WEEKS.
I'M HOPING JULY 18TH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN PLACE.
BUT RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WAITING ON EQUIPMENT.
UH, THE FLOP CAMERA SYSTEM, AGAIN, WE PUT, UH, 45 CAMERAS UP.
WE'VE HAD THAT IN PLACE NOW FOR TWO MONTHS.
SO WE STARTED THAT, UH, AT THE END OR AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.
SO NOW WE HAVE ALL OF APRIL AND ALL OF MAY TO KIND OF EVALUATE THE SYSTEM.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU, THE SYSTEM IS DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE PAID FOR.
UH, AND I JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, JUST U U M B ARREST AND U U N B IS STOLEN VEHICLES.
SO STOLEN VEHICLE ARREST IN THE CITY OF GARLAND BEFORE THE SHOTSPOTTER SYSTEM, WE AVERAGED 3.5 ARREST A MONTH, CAPTURING PEOPLE INSIDE STOLEN VEHICLES.
AFTER THE FLOCKS SYSTEM, UH, WE MADE 30 ARREST IN TWO MONTHS.
IT IS 15 ARRESTS, A MONTH OF CATCHING INDIVIDUALS INSIDE A STOLEN VEHICLES.
IN FACT, WE GET TWO OR THREE HITS A DAY.
I THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT IMPOSSIBLE, UNLESS YOU CAN SOMEHOW HIDE THE IDENTITY OF YOUR VEHICLE, UH, TO DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY OF GARLAND AND THE STOLEN STOLEN VEHICLE.
NOW, WITHOUT US KNOWING IT, AND THE OFFICERS ARE CATCHING THESE INDIVIDUALS AND WE'RE ARRESTING AND PROSECUTING THESE INDIVIDUALS, UH, THEFT OF MOTOR VEHICLE PARTS IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE CATCHING A LOT OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOW UP IN ONE VEHICLE COMMIT THAT THEFT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY RING CAMERAS OUT THERE AND THERE'S SO MANY SECURITY CAMERAS OUT THERE.
ALL WE NEED IS AN IMAGE OF A VEHICLE.
AND, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO USE THE FLOCK SYSTEM TO PULL A PLATE OFF OF THAT VEHICLE.
UM, THERE WERE FOUR INCIDENTS SINCE WE PUT THIS IN PLACE OF INDIVIDUALS, UH, THAT WERE INVOLVED IN, IN DECENT EXPOSURES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY USING THE FLOCK SYSTEM, UH, GET A LICENSE PLATE TAG, TRACK THEM DOWN AND MAKE THE ARREST.
AND SO IT IS, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER OF HOW MANY OF WHAT TYPE OF IMPACT THIS SYSTEM HAS, BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST A PART OF EVERYTHING WE DO NOW.
EVERY ARREST, EVERY CASE WE HAVE THAT INVOLVES A VEHICLE, A PIECE OF IT IS TYPICALLY FLOCK.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE FINGERPRINTS.
IF WE HAD A, IF WE HAD A ROBBERY THAT OCCURRED AND WE WERE TO PULL SOMEONE'S FINGERPRINTS AT THAT ROBBERY, THOSE FINGERPRINTS DO NOT SOLVE OUR CASE.
IT HAS ALL THE EVIDENCE COMBINED THAT SOLVE THE CASE.
AND THE FLOCK SYSTEM IS THE SAME WAY.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP US SOLVE THE CASE.
UH, ONE EXAMPLE I GAVE AT A, UH, A PUBLIC MEETING THE OTHER DAY IS WE HAD A WHITE CADILLAC WITH BIG RIMS THAT WAS COMMITTING BURGLARY OF MOTOR VEHICLES.
AND SO IN THE PAST TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE OPERATED IN THE PAST, BEFORE FLOCK AND THE PAST, WE WOULD PUT OUT A BULLETIN TO OUR OFFICERS AND SAY, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A WHITE CADILLAC, WITH BIG RAMS, HE'S BREAKING INTO CARS.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IF YOU WERE DRIVING A WHITE CADILLAC WITH BIG RENTS AND YOU'RE GETTING STOPPED BECAUSE YOU MATCHED THE DESCRIPTION? WELL, NOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE FLOCK SYSTEM IS SAY, IT IS THIS WHITE CADILLAC.
AND OUR OFFICERS WILL GET AN ALERT IN THEIR CAR THAT SAYS THE CAR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS AT KINGSLAND SHILOH RIGHT NOW, HEADED SOUTHBOUND.
AND WE CAN SET UP, UH, TO, UM, INTERSECT THAT CAR, UH, AND LIKE SAY IN, IN, UH, SEPTEMBER, THE FLOP CAMERA SYSTEMS WILL BE INSIDE, UH, THE PATROL CARS.
AND SO IT WILL, THE USE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE AMPLIFIED EVEN MORE WHEN WE HAVE IT INSIDE THE PATROL CAR.
SO NOW, INSTEAD OF SAYING, LOOK, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A VEHICLE THAT MATCHES THIS DESCRIPTION.
WE CAN SAY, BE ON THE, LOOKOUT IT WITH THIS VEHICLE.
AND WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN YOUR SWAT CAR, YOU GET THE ALERT AND IT SAYS, THIS IS THE CAR WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IT MAKES US A MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT
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POLICE DEPARTMENT.I CONSTANTLY PREACH INTELLIGENCE, POLICING INTELLIGENCE, POLICING PUTS YOUR RESOURCES WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE WHERE THE CRIMINALS ARE.
IT'S ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION TO COMMIT THE MAJORITY OF OUR CRIME.
SO IF WE CAN FOCUS OUR RESOURCES THERE, UM, THAN WE WERE A SMARTER POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THIS SYSTEM MAKES US A MUCH SMARTER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO MY PLAN IS TO, TO UPDATE, UM, UH, YOU GUYS HERE AND THEN UPDATE COUNCIL AND JULY ON A BIGGER SCALE.
UH, G LIKE, UM, ON THE LICENSE PLATES, DO YOU THINK, HAVE YOU CAUGHT ANY WITH PAPER TAGS? YES, REALLY A LOT.
SO, UM, THE FAKE TAGS IS A HUGE PROBLEM AND THE, AND THE PAPER TAGS, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, UM, WITH TEXAS DPS AND WHAT THE LEGISLATORS, UM, AND I'M HOPING I'M HEARING THEIR STUFF MOVING THAT WAY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT GETS FIXED AND THERE'S A, WE CAN SEE BETTER RESULTS, BUT PAPER TAX IS A BIG PROBLEM.
STOLEN PLATES IS A BIG PROBLEM.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE SEE A LOT OF PAPER TAGS.
IN FACT, MOST OF THE CRIME, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED WE'VE MADE 30 ARRESTS FOR YOU, YOU AND B'S FOR STOLEN VEHICLES.
MOST OF THE CRIME, WE HAVE BURGLARIES ROBBERIES, THEY'RE COMMITTED BY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE STOLEN THE VEHICLE.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SHOW UP IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE TO DO THIS.
SO THEY'VE EITHER STOLEN THE VEHICLE OR THEY STOLEN LICENSE PLATES, AND THEN THEY COMMIT THE CRIME.
SO IT'S IMPACTING A LARGE, MUCH LARGER THAN JUST THAT ONE STAT, BUT YET STILL, UH, THE PAPER TAGS WE'RE SEEING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, ANYTHING, UH, CHAIRMAN MENTIONED PAPER TAGS AND HE ASKED MY QUESTION CAUSE I KNOW WHERE IT IS.
UM, I WAS AT A MEETING LET'S SAY MONDAY, MAYBE FRIDAY WITH A STATE SENATOR.
RON JOHNSON WAS THE SPEAKER WHERE THIS TOPIC CAME UP, UH, EXTENSIVELY PAPER TAGS.
HE INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT, BUT HE INDICATED THAT THIS WAS THE TOP OF HIS PRIORITY LIST.
UM, THERE, BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED AT THAT MAYBE I HAPPENED TO PUT IT AT FEDEX FACILITY, MAILING SOMETHING, AND I HAPPEN TO WATCH THIS, THIS GUY WALKS IN AND IT HAD THE FEDEX GUY AND I KNOW HE PRINTED IT OFF.
IT HAD TO BE A HUNDRED PAPER TECH.
AND SO I JUST, I JUST, I JUST STAND THERE, YOU KNOW, OBSERVING RIGHT NOW, GOT THE TECH PUT ABOUT A HUNDRED.
IS THAT THE STENT WAS THAT THEY PUT THEM IN A BAG.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THAT I'M THINKING, OKAY, WHAT IS THIS GUY? I MEAN, HE HAD, INSTEAD WAS LIKE THAT CHEEK, RIGHT? I'M SAYING, OKAY, WHAT IS THIS GUY GOING TO DO WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE SAY WE WILL.
AND WE HAD A BURGLARY OF A MOTOR VEHICLE AT BASS PRO AND WE HAD A LICENSE PLATE.
WE CAPTURED A PAPER LICENSE PLATE TAG ON THAT.
SO THEN WE CHECK THAT PAPER LICENSE PLATE TAG TO SEE WHERE ELSE THAT VEHICLE HAD BEEN.
AND WE GET 30 DIFFERENT VEHICLES CAUSE THAT SAME TAG IS ON 30 DIFFERENT CARS.
AND SO, UH, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
AND I'M HOPING THE LEGISLATORS OR AGGRESSIVE IN HELPING US SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE IT, IT IMPACTS SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, NOT JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DRIVING STOLEN OR PAPER TAGS, EXPIRED TAGS.
ONE OF THE QUIZZES, ARE YOU GETTING ANY INQUIRIES OR CALLS FROM FOLKS IN CAME UP FULL, APPRECIATE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT MAKES YOU SOME FOLKS.
SOME FOLKS REMEMBER SUSAN GREGORY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED HOA SOMEWHERE, BUT I KNOW IN ONE OF, ONE OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES, THERE WAS A BIG DEAL, A FEW BUCKS AND GO WHERE THE HOA WAS, WAS CRESTING A FRAUD SYSTEM.
AND THEN SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO BELIEVE IN THEIR WORK THREATENING TO SUE THEM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AN INVASION OF PRIVACY.
SO ARE YOU GETTING ANY CALLS? ARE YOUR OFFICES GETTING ANY CALLS OR INQUIRIES FROM FOLKS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF MUCH FOXES? WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE RESIDENTIAL AREA IN ITSELF.
THE SOUTH PART OF GARLAND OFFER ELLA ROAD.
AND IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT HAS ABOUT 15 CAMERAS THAT THE HOA PUT
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UP IN THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA.SO, AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHEN AN HOA PUTS UP CAMERAS IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT HOA HAS ACCESS TO THAT DATA.
NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CAMERAS, BUT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE, TO THE DATA AND THEIR CAMERAS.
HOWEVER, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS GIVEN US ACCESS TO THEIR CAMERA.
SO IT MAKES THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MUCH MORE SAFER, MORE FOCUSED, UH, AREA THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AN HOA OR A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP HAS THE ABILITY TO PUT CAMERAS UP.
THERE'S SOME STIPULATIONS AND VOTES THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DO, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENT.
CAUSE THAT'S, I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT SOME OF IT, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS OF THAT SAME HOA WERE SAYING IT WAS AN INVASION OF PRIVACY BECAUSE YOU'RE SPYING ON ME AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ME, AND WE'VE GOT THIS SYSTEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT, I'VE HEARD THIS DISCUSSION, BUT IF YOU'RE ON A PUBLIC STREET AND YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC PLACE, YOU'VE CONSENTED TO YOUR PHOTOGRAPH BEING TAKEN.
AND SO I CAN TAKE ALL THOSE PICTURES ALL DAY LONG AND CONSENTED TO IT BY APPEARING IN A PUBLIC PLACE.
AND SINCE THIS IS I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL PULL THIS UP QUICK AND I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL PULL UP MY ACCOUNT AND YOU CAN, I'LL SAY THAT.
AND I'M TYPING IN SO THIS IS INTERESTING JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME SCOPE HERE.
UH, FIRST I'LL GO TO THE HOT LIST AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST TODAY.
SO TODAY IS JUNE HOT LIST IS THE NOTIFICATION.
SO IF YOU'RE IN THE CAR, YOU GET A, YOU GET AN ALERT, HEY, SOMETHING'S GOING ON? HERE'S YOUR CAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? THAT'S THAT'S, WHAT'S ON THE HOT LIST.
SO THIS IS 6, 6 40 MINUTES AGO, STOLEN CART, BROADWAY IN RAIL AT AN HOUR AGO, ANOTHER STOLEN CAR AT 78 AND FIRST.
AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING THE STREETS, YOU GET THE, YOU SEE THE VEHICLE, YOU GOT THE PLATE, YOU GET THE DIRECTION, YOU SET UP AHEAD OF IT.
UM, AND THEN YOU TRY TO CAPTURE IT, BUT IT'S FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE A DAY.
SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THE SAME ONE.
WHEN YOU HAVE 'EM PICK UP LIKE THIS, DO THEY LEAVE THE KEYS IN THE CAR? A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S KEYS IN THE CAR.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, UH, SOMEONE THAT HAS, UH, DUPLICATED THE KEY FOB, WHICH IS A NEW THING WHERE THEY CAN, THERE'S A WAY THAT THEY HAVE A COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT WHEN YOU HIT YOUR BUTTON TO LOCK THE DOOR, THEY'RE CAPTURING THAT SIGNAL AND THEY CAN PROGRAM THEIR OWN FOB AND JUST GET IN AND TAKE YOUR CAR.
UM, BASED ON IF YOUR KEY IS IN YOUR HOUSE, IT'S CLOSE TO YOUR CAR.
LIKE IF YOUR KEY IS IN LIKE HANGING RIGHT INSIDE YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR CARS CLOSE ENOUGH TO IT, THAT AND THE THREE DOOR RIGHT THERE.
SO IT WAS THE THING SAYING, KEEP YOUR KEY FAR AWAY FROM YOUR CAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE SO FAR AWAY, LIKE WHEN YOU HIT THE BUTTON, DO THAT.
CAUSE THEY CAN JUST COME BY YOUR HOUSE.
YOU DON'T NEED THAT OPEN OR JUST GOT THE KEY AND NEEDLE BY ITSELF.
AND THEN YOU COULD PULL UP THE CAMERA MAP.
UM, THIS IS SO THERE'S ALL THE CAMERAS THAT ARE IN THE STATE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO PULL UP CITY CAMERAS.
WE HAVE 45, BUT THE, THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE INTELLIGENCE, THIS SYSTEM PROVIDES US.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMMITTING CRIMES.
UM, WE CAN ALSO THE HOT LIST IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A DRIVE BY SHOOTING AND WE DIDN'T KNOW THE SUS WHO THE SUSPECT WAS, BUT WE KNOW WHAT VEHICLE, THE DRIVING.
WE CAN PUT THAT, THAT VEHICLE ON THE HOT LIST AND TELL OUR OFFICERS, THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN A DRIVE BY SHOOTING ATTEMPT TO MAKE CONTACT AND IDENTIFY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA.
WONDERING WHERE THE WHITE DOG WAS UP TO LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY HAVEN'T GOT IT YET.
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THEY'RE IN THE CAR, SHE HAD TO TRY TO GET UP IN FRONT OF THEM.AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO ALWAYS A, YOU TRY TO ANTICIPATE WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND YOU TRY TO GET UP IN FRONT OF THEM.
UM, BUT IT'S EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT LEAST IDENTIFYING A STOLEN VEHICLE AND GETTING BEHIND A STOLEN VEHICLE.
WE DON'T, UH, I WON'T GET INTO OUR PURSUIT POLICY TOO MUCH, BUT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON OUR PURSUIT POLICY.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'VE MADE 30 ARREST IN TWO MONTHS.
IT'S A LOT, THAT'S USUALLY HOW MUCH WE MAKE IN A YEAR.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WANT TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING THEY DON'T WORKING FOR.
SO IF I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND, I'LL TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL ON JULY 18TH.
I'LL JUST DO A PRESENTATION, KIND OF LIKE WE DID HERE AND UPDATE COUNCIL.
IF THERE'S, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
THE MILLION AS OF JUNE THE SIXTH, 24, 6 44 AND 56 SECONDS.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, WE HAVE NOT SET A DATE ON THAT YET.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PENDING TOPICS ON PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET ANOTHER, UH, TOPIC, WE'LL S WE'LL SET A MEETING.
OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR INCIDENT.
NO,
I CALL YOU IF YOU GOT MY NUMBER.