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          OKAY. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WELCOME. 
          [Community Services Committee on June 7, 2022.]
THIS IS TUESDAY, JUNE 7TH, 2022. 
          IT'S 4:00 PM. 
          AND THIS IS A MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE. 
          UM, I'M DEBRA MORRIS CHAIR. 
          AND WITH ME, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, BJ WILLIAMS, AND COUNCILMAN ROBERT VERA. 
          WE ALSO HAVE GUESTS FROM SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, A CROWD OF, UH, STAFF MEMBERS AND OTHER GUESTS AND VISITORS. 
          SO AS EACH PERSON SPEAKS, UM, WE WILL ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND TITLE IF YOU WORK WITH A CITY OR A NAME AND ADDRESS OTHERWISE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 5TH, 2022 MEETING, UM, COMMITTEE. 
          YOU HAVE THE MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET, OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, THOSE WERE APRIL BECAUSE WE DID NOT MEET IN MAY. 
          SO HAVE YOU BOTH HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM? OKAY, SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 
          UM, NEXT ON THE AGENDA. 
          NUMBER TWO IS GENERAL PARK RULES CONCERNING PARKING. 
          SO, UH, ANDY AND MATT, IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GOING TO KICK THIS OFF MEAN KICK US OFF. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION TO YOU FIRST. 
          WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH JUST A REAL QUICK REVIEW ON THE DOG PARK RULES THAT YOU GUYS REVIEWED, I THINK A MONTH AND A HALF AGO OR SO, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT. 
          SO WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD AND THEN QUICKLY GO OVER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CHANGES TO OUR PARK, RULE UP, UM, HOURS AND, UM, POSSIBLE PARKING ENFORCEMENT IN SOME PARKS WHERE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES. 
          SO AS SOON AS WE GET IT PULLED UP, WHAT ARE THE ITEMS WE'RE DISCUSSING NUMBER ONE, OR WE JUST GOT OUR NUMBER TWO RATHER, ARE WE DISCUSSING SOMETHING OTHER THAN PARKING, UH, PARK HOURS AND PARK RULES? UM, NOT POSTED WHICH ONE WAS NOT POSTED EITHER PARK HOURS OR PARK RULES HAVE BEEN POSTED JUST THE PARK RULES CONCERNING PARKING. 
          OKAY, WELL THEN WE'LL SKIP AND PARK HOURS AND WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED THE, UH, DOG PARK SIGNAGE AND RULE CHANGES. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE EVEN NEEDED TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          BUT WHAT'S POSTED ARE THE PARKING, WHICH I THINK IN OUR PRINTED PACKET IS LAST, UM, AS THIS BEEN UPDATED, I HEARD THAT WE GOT, UH, AND PARK HOURS, WELL PARK HOURS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER IT IF IT WAS JUST PARKING. 
          AND I DIDN'T, I'M SORRY. 
          I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID NOT NOTICE IT. 
          PARK HOURS WERE NOT INCLUDED. 
          I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT AS WELL. 
          SO WE'LL CATCH IT NEXT MONDAY. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE NOPE, THAT IS PARKED. 
          SO WE NEED TO GO TO PARKING. 
          NO, THAT WAS PARKING. 
          YEAH. 
          PROHIBITED PARKING RELATED TO THESE TWO LOCATIONS WITHIN THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, I GUESS WE'LL GET TO COME BACK. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE, UH, IS, IS AN ISSUE WITH TWO MAIN PARKS IN PARTICULAR. 
          ONE IS HEALTH PARK, WHICH IS THE NEW TRAIL HEAD OVER BEHIND NAME AND SCHOOL ROAD. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER IS CENTRAL PARK SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE ANNEX BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE DURING SCHOOL, SCHOOL HOURS, UH, BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME A PARKING LOCATION FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT DON'T WANT TO PAY TO PARK. 
          UH, AND IT'S GOTTEN SO BAD THAT WE'VE RUN THEM OFF. 
          THEY PARKED IN THE HANDICAP SPOT. 
          WE HAVE STARTED TO GET COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY AT HEALTH PARK, WANTING TO USE THAT TRAIL AND NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO PARK IN THERE. 
          UM, AND WE DO CALL THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE IF THEY'RE PARKED IN THE HANDICAP SPOTS AND WE GET THEM TOWED OR MOVED FROM THE, OR TICKETED FROM THE HANDICAP SPOT. 
          UM, BUT WE, IT IS A PUBLIC PARKING SPOT. 
          AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO. 
          WE HAVE CALLED BOTH, UH, GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND NAMING HAVE MET WITH THE PRINCIPALS, HAVE MET WITH THEIR FOLKS THERE. 
          AND THEY LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK TO OUR SRO OFFICER. 
          WE'LL TALK TO SOMEBODY AND YOU KNOW, IT WORKS FOR A DAY OR TWO, AND THEN IT GETS, IT GETS RIGHT BACK TO IT. 
          THEY WERE PARKING, UM, BY NAME AND THEY WERE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, UH, IN THE, UH, HOTEL PARKING LOT. 
          AND THEY STARTED HAVING THEM TOWED SO THEY WEREN'T PARKING THERE ANYMORE. 
          AND SO IN A WAY TO BE ABLE, ONE OF THE CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO LIMIT, UM, HOURS OF PARKING DURING SCHOOL TIME. 
          BECAUSE MOST OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT USE BOTH OF THESE PARKS, UM, ARE ONLY GOING TO BE THERE FOR, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. 
          THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE THERE FOR A COUPLE 
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OF HOURS. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE ALL DAY LONG. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT DURING SCHOOL HOURS, BETWEEN DURING SCHOOL DAYS, SO NON WEEKENDS, AND WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSIONS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6:30 AM AND 4:30 PM, THAT THERE'D BE A FOUR HOUR PARKING, UH, LIMIT IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS PARKED THERE LONGER THAN THAT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF THAT IS ENFORCED HEAVILY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND WE WRITE THOSE CITATIONS AND POSSIBLY TOW IN SOME CASES THAT THAT WORD WILL GET AROUND AND THOSE KIDS WILL STOP PARKING THERE. 
          UH, AND THAT'S THE HOPE THAT WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AGAIN, IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE ENFORCEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY SCHOOL YEAR TO REINFORCE THAT AS YOU HAVE NEW DRIVERS AND NEW KIDS, UM, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY WILL, THEY'LL HOPEFULLY GET THE POINT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WANTING TO USE THE PARK. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL ADD VERY, VERY BRIEFLY TO THAT. 
          WE DID WORK WITH THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO KIND OF DRAFT UP SOMETHING THAT SEEMED REASONABLE ENFORCEABLE. 
          AND AGAIN, WE THINK THAT THE BEGINNING OF THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATION COMPONENT HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE CITATION PHASE BEGINS. 
          BUT THE SITUATION IS SIGNIFICANT AT BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS CENTRAL IN PARTICULAR. 
          SO, YES. 
          UM, DID I HEAR YOU PUNCH IN YOUR DUDE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          WE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE, SO I'M NOT GETTING A, A NOTICE OF WHO IS PUNCHED AND I JUST HEARD IT GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, ANDY, UH, NAME AND NAIMA. 
          I KNOW THAT SOME STUDENTS ARE ASSIGNED PARKING, THEY HAVE DESIGNATED ON THE, ON THE PREMISES, THE SCHOOL PREMISES DID. 
          Y'ALL TALK WHEN Y'ALL TALK WITH GSD PRINCIPALS AND OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT, ABOUT THE ADEQUATE PARKING ON ACTUALLY ON CAMPUS THERE. 
          I KNOW THEY HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT CYST SYSTEM, WHICH STUDENTS, STUDENTS, I THINK, AND I THINK SENIORS GET A PREFERENCE IF THAT HAS NOT CHANGED OVER THERE. 
          DID YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THEM AT ALL ABOUT RIGHT, BUT LOOKING AT THE SUFFICIENCY OF OWN CAMPUS, A PARKING. 
          SO I THINK, YES, SIR. 
          SO I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS, IS, UM, IN ORDER TO GET A PARKING PERMIT, MATT, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          IT REQUIRES, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE OF WHICH IS INSURANCE AND DRIVER'S LICENSE, NOT ALL FOLKS PROVIDE THAT AND THEREFORE THEY CAN'T GET A PERMIT. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACKSIDE OF THAT HIGH SCHOOL OFF OF RANGER DRIVE WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO HAVE PARK IS IT'S MOSTLY EMPTY. 
          SO THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING FROM OUR VIEWPOINT. 
          UM, IT BECOMES A MATTER OF THOSE THAT EITHER CHOOSE NOT TO GET A PERMIT OR CANNOT GET A PERMIT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEE FOR IT IS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S FREE. 
          SO THERE, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THERE'S SOME BARRIERS TO THAT EITHER BY CHOICE OR OTHERWISE. 
          UM, AND, AND DICTATE THAT SOME, I THINK BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE OFF-CAMPUS ABILITY TO LEAVE CAMPUS AND COME BACK, THEY KIND OF ENJOY THAT FREEDOM OF BEING OFF CAMPUS AND MAYBE THE FREEDOM THAT GOES ALONG WITH ACTIVITIES THAT WE PREFER NOT TO BE IN ANY PARKING LOT. 
          UH, BUT WE DID VISIT WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT IN BOTH BOTH CASES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE REASON I RAISE THAT POINT, BECAUSE YOU HIT ON IT, I WAS AWARE THAT YOU HAVE SOME STUDENTS WHO, WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASONS THAT THEY'RE NOT EITHER ABLE TO GET, UH, THOSE, THOSE DOCUMENTS THE NEED, OR THEY JUST CHOOSE NOT TO. 
          AND, UH, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A SORT OF USER TWO-SIDED CORN TO THIS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT IT, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS EVOLVE INTO WAY CITY VERSUS STUDENTS METAL. 
          AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE US, UH, ENGAGED THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS, BUT MORE BECAUSE I PASS THROUGH THERE, A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THAT ON CAMPUS A LOT WAS PRETTY MUCH VACANT. 
          AND SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONVERSATION GO WITH THE SCHOOL OF FACIALS. 
          WHAT, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN BE DONE TO ASSIST THOSE STUDENTS, IF THOSE STUDENTS WHO WANT TO DO WANT TO FOLLOW THE, THE RULES TO ASSIST THOSE STUDENTS, GETTING WHAT THEY NEED SO THAT THEY CAN PARK THERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT LEADS, BUT I LIKE TO SEE THAT CONVERSATION TAKE PLACE. 
          AND, UH, MAYBE, UH, IF WE HAVE TO AMP IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICIALS, UM, BECAUSE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHERE I RECALL WE HAD PARKING ISSUES AT GALVIN HIGH, I REMEMBER THAT VIVIDLY. 
          AND, UH, WE HAD, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH, WE WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE SAME TYPE OF SITUATIONS. 
          SO ANDY, COULD WE, THE NEXT TIME AS WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT SIDE OF IT? I HAVE NO, NO IDEA WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARTICULAR ISSUES ARE WITH THOSE STUDENTS, BUT IF WE CAN, WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE STUDENTS AND HAVE THAT EMPTY PARKING LOT 
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OVER THERE, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE CHASING THE WIN. 
          WHAT'S THE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, SIR. 
          UM, AND, AND W WE HAVE ENGAGED THEM. 
          WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. 
          WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF PROGRESS IN LUCK. 
          WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A VACUUM. 
          WE HAVE APPROACHED THEM ON A, ON A FEW OCCASIONS AT VARIOUS LEVELS AND, AND REALLY HAVEN'T MADE ANY PROGRESS IN THAT REGARD. 
          THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, ANY INTEREST IN, UM, FINDING A SOLUTION TOGETHER. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE AGAIN, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, TRYING TO ADDRESS IN, IN PARTICULAR, UM, CENTRAL PARK, WE'RE, WE'RE INTO A VERY HEAVY LEVEL OF EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE VANDALISM AT THE PLAYGROUNDS AND VARIOUS OTHER AMENITIES AND REPORTS OF, OF, UH, FAMILIES THAT WOULD LIKE TO USE THE PARK DURING THE DAY, ESSENTIALLY BEING CHASED OFF, NOT, NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE IN THERE WITH, WITH THAT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A VARIETY OF SITUATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, UM, ENGAGEMENT WITH DIFFERENT SCHOOL OFFICIALS MIGHT BE HELPFUL. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD BE, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD LUCK. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT HAS BEEN OUR LEVEL IN THE DISTRICT HIERARCHY? WHAT HAS BEEN OUR LEVEL OF, OF COMMUNICATIONS? WELL, YEAH, PRINCIPAL AND AMEN. 
          AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND, AND HIS FEEDBACK HAS BEEN WHAT ANDY HAD JUST SAID, THAT THEY HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THOSE LOTS SO THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH SPOTS. 
          AND PRETTY MUCH HIS MESSAGE TO US WAS YOU NEED TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHICH IS WHAT THEY TOLD THE HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS WHY THEY STARTED TO TOW THEM. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM ALL AROUND BJ LE, LET ME ALSO ADD, I HAVE TALKED TO THE PRINCIPAL AT GARLAND HIGH. 
          I HAVE SAT DOWN WITH DR. 
          LOPEZ AT LENGTH. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET HELP FROM JISD. 
          THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEFORE US. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I, I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT MA'AM CHAIR, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT READY YET. 
          I MEAN, I SUPPORT THIS TOTALLY, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT READY TO YIELD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO RE CIRCLE AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHO WE'RE TALKING TO MADAM CHAIR AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR IT. 
          BUT, BUT LIKE I SAID, I PASS THAT LOT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE. 
          MEN, WE CAN TALK SOME MORE OFFLINE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, TO ON THEIR SIDE. 
          SO, UM, LET'S, AND LET'S, LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, MEDICARE OFFLINE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS, CAUSE I'D LIKE TO APPROACH THAT BECAUSE SEX IT, I PARKED, I PASSED THAT LOT A NUMBER OF TIMES AND AT LOTS PRACTICALLY VACANT, AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          SO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM CHAIR, MR. BEAR, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? I WANTED TO HAVE, YEAH. 
          WHEN YOU TALKED TO DR. 
          LOPEZ, UH, CAN YOU SHARE THE, WHAT HE SAID? HE BASICALLY SAID, DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. 
          SAME, SAME MESSAGE. 
          UM, IT'S ONLY 20. 
          THE PARKING PASSES ARE $20 A YEAR. 
          THIS IS NOT A FINANCIAL ISSUE FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE CARRYING AROUND MULTI HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OF WORTH OF CELL PHONES AND DRIVING IN MANY CASES, NICE CARS. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AND SO THE, THE REQUIREMENT FOR A DRIVER'S LICENSE, REGISTRATION, UM, AND INSURANCE IS THE SHOWSTOPPER IN MOST CASES. 
          SO, UM, AND THE SCHOOL AND DR. 
          LOPEZ ARE ABSOLUTELY UNMOVING ON THAT BECAUSE, UM, THAT ISN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS TO ATTEND THE SCHOOL, BUT IT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO PARK IN THEIR PARKING LOT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER OR THE AUTHORITY TO FORCE THEM TO, TO CHANGE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE CHIEF BRIAN, GO AHEAD. 
          JUST WAIT A MINUTE. 
          I HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE THING ABOUT IT, I MIGHT ASK HIM, YOU, THE KIDS GET TICKETS WHEN THEY GET THE TICKETS, THE SCHOOL KEEPS THEM AND WHAT THEY DO. 
          THEY WON'T GIVE THEM THE DIPLOMA UNTIL THEY PAY ALL THE TICKETS. 
          AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING AT SMU. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THIS, MY WORK HERE, BUT I'M SAYING THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL JUST ADD THAT. 
          THE ISSUE YOU'RE DISCUSSING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT PARKING, BUT, UH, IT'S THE OVERALL PHILOSOPHY OF GIS D WHICH IS THEIR ISSUE IS HANDLING THINGS ON CAMPUS. 
          AND SO IF IT'S PARKING OR IF IT'S KIDS MISBEHAVING OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEY HANDLE WHATEVER'S ON CAMPUS. 
          ONCE IT LEAVES CAMPUS. 
          AND THIS IS A PARKING ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON THEIR CAMPUS, EVEN THOUGH IT INVOLVES THEIR 
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KIDS, IT'S NOT ON THEIR CAMPUS. 
          UM, THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE CITY. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT JUST THE PHILOSOPHY ON THIS ISSUE. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE PHILOSOPHY ON ALL ISSUES DEALING WITH THEIR KIDS. 
          AND I WAS GOING TO ADD THE SAME THING. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE CHIEF SPEAKING, SPEAKING TO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'D ALSO KIND OF HEARD, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE DISTRICT AT ALL, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO RECEIVED THEIR LEGAL ADVICE FROM THEIR, THEIR FOLKS. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN, BEEN THE PHILOSOPHY THAT THEY'LL THEY'LL HANDLE AND CONTROL WHAT'S ON CAMPUS. 
          WHAT'S OFF THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT THEIR LEGAL ADVICE AND LIMITATIONS RELATED TO THAT, BUT THEM TO GO OFF CAMPUS AND DEAL WITH, WITH KIDS OFF CAMPUS, IT'S THERE'S CHALLENGES THERE FOR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, MY POINT WAS SIMPLY CHIEF WAS DEALING WITH ON-CAMPUS THE ON-CAMPUS AND IF WE, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF THE ON CAMPUS, YOU EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH, WITH GOLDENEYE THE ON CAMPUS PIECE FOR THE VERY REASON THAT YOU JUST GAVE. 
          BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ENGAGE SOME CONVERSATION FOR ON CAMPUS. 
          AND THERE, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE DISTRICT CAN DO AND I'M NOT READY TO CONCEDE AND SEND IT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WANT TO ACCEPT THAT, DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. 
          AND I THINK ON CAMPUS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE DISTRICT CAN DO TO CIRCLE BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO COMMITTEE WHAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. 
          UM, WHERE ARE YOU AS FAR AS RECOMMENDING THAT WE ADD THIS PROHIBITION FOR THESE TWO PARKS, UM, LIMITED HOURS ON SCHOOL DAYS, UM, WHERE IT'S LIMITED IN, IN TIME, UH, JUST BETWEEN THOSE HOURS ON SCHOOL DAYS. 
          ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT QUESTION FOR ME OR FOR THE BOARD? I WAS ASKING THEM YOU I'M GOOD WITH COUNCILMAN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD SAY LET'S CALL THAT DONE AND WE'LL REPORT THAT OUT WHEN WE REPORT TO COUNCIL WITH THE OTHER THINGS. 
          AND SO DOES THIS NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO A COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IS WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY, WHEN I READ THIS, I, MY EYES, I SAW GENERAL PARK RULES AND PARKING. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THAT IT WAS LIMITED TO ONLY PARKING OR I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT. 
          SO WE WILL CATCH UP WITH THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NUMBER THREE IS DISCUSSED FUNDING OPTIONS FOR SIDEWALKS AND SPEED HUMPS. 
          AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE THINGS, WE ARE JUST CIRCLING BACK AND CLEANING UP THINGS THAT WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH OVER PERIOD OF MONTHS AND TRYING TO GET THEM WHERE THEY'RE READY TO REPORT OUT. 
          SO IS THIS WHO'S WHO IS SPEAKING TO THIS? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEVELOPER WITH THE STREETS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO ADDRESS US. 
          I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING YOU HAD ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE IMPLICATIONS OF IF WE WENT TO A FULL CITY, CITY FUNDING OF THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT HERE. 
          AND AS WE LOOK, AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY THAT WE HAVE FIVE, A LITTLE LESS THAN $5.3 MILLION IN BOND FUNDING FOR THE SIDEWALK COST SHARE PROGRAM AND THE FUNDING STREAM AS NOTED BELOW THE 903 THIS YEAR, SOME CARRY OVER FROM THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF WHEN WE, WHEN WE GOT STARTED AND IT AVERAGES APPROXIMATELY 750,000 A YEAR, THAT'S FOR THE LA. 
          AND ON TOP OF THAT, AND TOP OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALKS, UH, ALL THE STUFF THAT IS ADJACENT TO ARTERIALS COLLECTORS AND INDUSTRIAL STREETS. 
          AND OF COURSE, THOSE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDED. 
          WE LOOKED AT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT WE WENT. 
          IF WE MOVED TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDING, SINCE OCTOBER 1ST, 2020, WE HAVE HAD 170 REQUESTS OF THOSE 90, ALMOST 92% MET THE REQUIREMENT FOR A PLACEMENT. 
          AND THAT NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'VE REPORTED BEFORE, BUT WE DOUBLE-CHECK THOSE NUMBERS OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S THE INFORMATION. 
          AND ONLY 14% OF THOSE DIDN'T DIDN'T MEET, OR 14 OF THEM DIDN'T MEET SOME OF THE CRITERIA OF THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OVER 90% OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE, ARE MEETING THAT THE AVERAGE COST OF SIDEWALK REPAIR AS WE EVALUATED WAS 20 IS BASICALLY BEEN 20, 2200 $20. 
          ACTUALLY, THAT'S LOWER THAN WHAT I POURED HIM BEFORE. 
          BUT ACTUALLY WHEN WE GOT OUR NEW CONTRACT, THE NUMBERS CAME DOWN. 
          SO THAT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE, THAT IS A BENEFIT FOR THE CITIZENS IN IT. 
          THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE NEW CONTRACTOR COSTS ARE DONE THERE. 
          IF WE HAD $750,000 
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OF FUNDING A YEAR, WE WOULD, WE WOULD FUND APPROXIMATELY 340 SIDEWALK REPAIRS. 
          NOW, IF NO CITIZEN CONTRIBUTION IS REQUIRED, UH, WE GENEROUSLY, I THINK WE WOULD EXPECT A REQUEST TO MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT IT WOULD GO TO. 
          IT'S HARD. 
          IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WOULD GO TO, BUT IF WE ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST MORE THAN DOUBLE, YOU KNOW, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU NEED TO DEVELOP A PRIORITIZED SYSTEM FOR EVALUATING REQUESTS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, ONE OPTION THAT WE'VE EVALUATED IS, YOU KNOW, MAKE REPAIRS, MAYBE MAKE REPAIRS SO WE CAN GROUP AND MAKE REPAIRS IN ODD NUMBER COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN ODD YEARS, MAKE EVEN COUNSELOR PAIRS AND EVEN DISTRICTS. 
          AND EVEN YEARS YOU COULD TAKE THE REQUEST THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO DO IS TO GATHER A YEAR'S WORTH OF REQUESTS AND THEN EVALUATE THEM BASED ON NEED. 
          NOT, NOT A FIRST COME FIRST, SOME BUT FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE NEED-BASED AND WE COULD LOOK AND SEVERITY BASED. 
          OR IF THERE'S AN ADA ISSUE, WE COULD KIND OF GROUP THOSE AND DETERMINE WHICH ONES REALLY NEED TO BE NEEDED TO BE DONE. 
          NOT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY CALLED YOU FIRST. 
          AND WHAT THAT ALSO WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS IF WE GROUP THOSE BY DISTRICTS, IT WOULD ALLOW A LOT OF EFFICIENCY FOR THE CONTRACTOR. 
          CAUSE HE WAS, YOU KNOW, HE COULD GO INTO AN AREA AND TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          ONE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE, WE ENVISIONED HAPPENING, IF WE GO TO A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME REQUESTS, A NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CONTRACTOR SEES, SEES ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED WITH, GO AHEAD AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FIX THAT WHILE, WHILE WE'RE THERE. 
          IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH ISSUE RIGHT NOW, WE, WE, AND WE, WE HAD THIS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE A RESIDENT SAW US WORKING ON ONE SIDEWALK AND WAS OUT THERE AND ASKED IF WE COULD DO THAT. 
          AND WE SAID, WELL, HERE'S THE PROCESS. 
          IF YOU GO AND MAKE YOUR REQUEST AND GET THE MONEY AND ALL THAT STUFF, GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS REAL FAST, PERHAPS OUR CONTRACTOR MAY STILL BE IN THE AREA, BUT IF NOT, SO IT WOULD ALLOW US TO PICK UP THOSE KIND OF ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT DOWN THE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE GENERAL, YOU WERE RIGHT OUT HERE. 
          WHY DIDN'T YOU FIX, WHY DIDN'T YOU FIX MINE SO WE COULD ADDRESS A LOT OF THAT ISSUE. 
          ALSO, THE ONE THING IS THE CONTRACTOR IS TAKEN CARE OF TOO. 
          WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE IS THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THE CURVES BECAUSE WHEN THE RENT LAST REROUTED THE ORDINANCE, THE CURB IS A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDED. 
          NOW THAT IT USED TO BE PART OF THE COST SHARE PROGRAM. 
          BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE DEMAND FOR OUR SIDEWALK STAFF. 
          I TALKED TO STAFF RIGHT NOW, OUR SIDEWALK INSPECTOR IS PROBABLY THE INDICATING 75% BETWEEN HIS FIELD INVESTIGATION AND INVESTIGATION, PROBABLY AT LEAST 75% OF HIS TIME ON SIDEWALK PROGRAM. 
          SO IF YOU DOUBLE THAT, LET'S JUST SEE YOU DEALT WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN IT GOES TO 150% OF HIS TIME. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED A SECOND INSPECTOR IF WE WERE TO, IF WE WERE TO INCREASE THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IF THE PROGRAM BECAME A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE NUMBERS IN, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED A SECOND INSPECTOR. 
          ALSO THE ADMINISTRATIVE EMPLOYEE CURRENTLY DEDICATES ABOUT 30 TO 35% OF HER TIME ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES, WORKING WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE AND GETTING THE INFORMATION IN THEM. 
          SO WE ANTICIPATE IF IT, IF IT INCREASES, WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE THAT THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH TAKE UP MOST OF HER TIME NOW THAT WOULDN'T NECESSITATE A NEW EMPLOYEE, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE DUTIES THAT SHE'S HELPING OUT WITH AND THE REST OF THE TIME WOULD FALL UPON OTHER STAFF MEMBERS TO, TO HANDLE THAT IF SHE'S, IF SHE'S DEDICATING MORE OF OUR TIME TO THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM. 
          BUT THE, THE ONE, OBVIOUSLY THE ONE PLUS SIDE OF THAT IS IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED TO GO THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE REVENUE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY REVENUE TO BE COLLECTED. 
          SO THAT WOULD TAKE IT WOULD IT OBVIOUSLY STREAMLINING COULD ACCELERATE THE PROCESS, BUT IT WOULD TAKE THAT OUT THE STEP. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE PLUS SIDE OF GOING A HUNDRED PERCENT IS THAT WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE REVENUE COLLECTION DOING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CALCULATING THE FULL COST AND THEY'RE MAKING, THEY'RE APPLYING THE DISCOUNTS AND THEY'RE SENDING THE LETTERS OUT AND GETTING THE CHECKS FROM CITIZENS. 
          SO THAT PROCESS WOULD, WOULD GO AWAY UNDER A HUNDRED PERCENT SANDY FUNDING. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY THE INFORMATION I HAVE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT LET ME FIRST BJ NEED TO ASK ANYTHING. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAD, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAM IS IT SIDEWALK REPAIR LIKE IN FRONT OF A HOUSE, A HOUSE YOU'LL HAVE A WHOLE BLOCK WOULD CRUMMY SIDEWALKS, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE PERSON THERE WHO PUTS IN A REQUEST FOR IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP THE REST OF THE BLOCK. 
          AND THAT WAS A REAL DISADVANTAGE OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE DO NOW, WHICH IS BY CITIZEN REQUEST, VERY ISOLATED. 
          IT IS. 
          AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT JUST, AGAIN, MOVING AWAY FROM FLOWING THIS THROUGH CITIZEN REQUESTS, OTHER THAN JUST KIND OF MAKING, UM, A HEAT MAP. 
          YOU 
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KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS IN A CERTAIN AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CRY FOR HELP GOING UP, UM, AND, AND DOING MORE LIKE YOU'VE DONE WITH STREETS AND HAVING, UH, UH, CREATING A SIDEWALK PCI, UM, TO KIND OF MAP OUT THE CITY AND SAY, WHERE IS IT WORST? YOU ALREADY, YOU DO THIS IN YOUR SLEEP, I'M SURE WITH STREETS. 
          SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO DO THAT, TO CREATE A, UM, A PCI MAP OF OUR SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY AND BE ABLE TO, WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZING SOME OF THE LAST MILE AROUND SCHOOLS, UM, OR, UM, I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER THINGS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. 
          OTHER AREAS WHERE, UM, DISABILITY AND MOBILITY ISSUES COULD BE A PROBLEM. 
          SO, UM, DID, DID, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL CONSIDERED WOULD BE AN OPTION OF A CITYWIDE SIDEWALK, PCI, IF WE, IF WE LOOKED AT, AND WE DIDN'T REALLY SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THAT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WERE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I THINK THE FIRST POINT WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE NATURE OF WHAT OUR STREET INSPECTION IS TO INCORPORATE SIDEWALKS. 
          IF HE'S ALREADY OUT THERE INSPECTING STREETS, RIGHT. 
          AND SAY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST INSPECTING STREETS. 
          IF WE WANTED TO GO TO A CITY-WIDE PROGRAM, WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING A LOOK AT REPLACEMENTS ON A STREET BY STREET BASIS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO ATTACK THAT WOULD BE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE INSPECTION PROGRAM. 
          NOW IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO INSPECT THE STREET AND THEREFORE THE CYCLE ON WHICH WE WOULD INSPECT STREETS WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE IN, IN, IN THE, IN THE TIME BETWEEN INSPECTIONS. 
          BECAUSE I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IF YOU'RE REALLY TAKING A CLOSE LOOK AT THE SIDEWALKS, IT WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE YOUR AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO A SIDE STREET INSPECTION RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S JUST GENERALLY DOING IT AS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREETS. 
          SO IT WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 25% INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO DO A COMPLETE INSPECTION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IN TURN MAY SLOW DOWN YOUR CYCLE BY 20, YOU KNOW, 20% ON HOW FREQUENTLY YOU'RE INSPECTING STREETS. 
          THERE ARE TOOLS THAT COULD BE, I MEAN, THERE ARE TOOLS TO HANDLE THAT, WHICH COULD BE, THERE ARE I GUESS, MECHANICAL AND OR PHOTOGRAPHIC WAYS OF INSPECTING THEM THEN THAT, AND THAT COULD BE PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT IS IF WE, IF WE EQUIPPED RUN OUT, IT'S VISUAL, IT'S JUST A VISUAL INSPECTION, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ELECTRONIC AND, AND PHOTOGRAPHIC MEANS OF INSPECTING STREETS. 
          AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DO THAT ALSO INCORPORATE THEIR THEY'LL INCORPORATE THEIR SIGNS AND MARKINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT-A-WAY THEY'RE POINTING TO YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK, ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF HEAT MAPS OR ARE YOU SPEAKING WHEN YOU REFERENCE HEAT MAPS, WHAT EXACTLY IS INVOLVED WITH THE HEAT MAP? IS THAT WHAT INFORMATION IS BEING DISSEMINATED WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING A BAD SIDEWALK ON A HEAT MAP? WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE HEAT MAPS FOR LIKE OUR POTHOLE REPAIRS, AND IT'S JUST MORE OF A LOCATION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOCATIONS. 
          IF, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING RELATED TO SEVERITY OR DANGEROUS CONDITIONS OR ANYTHING? UM, YOU COULD WRITE THEM. 
          I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD WRITE STREETS ON, YOU COULD GIVE THEM A, I MEAN, YOU COULD DO SIDEWALKS ON NUMERICAL BASIS. 
          LIKE WE DO STREETS, BUT TO, UH, I MEAN, I, I PRESUME IF YOU'RE EVALUATING A MORE SEVERE FAILURE WOULD, WOULD NOTCH UP OR WOULD LOWER THE RATING OF THE OVERALL OVERALL STREET. 
          BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD, ALTHOUGH SIDEWALK OF THAT'S ON THAT STREET, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS UNDER THE TEXAS TORTS CLAIMS ACT ABOUT, UM, WRITING SIDEWALKS BECAUSE OF, UM, DANGEROUS CONDITIONS. 
          AND IF WE ARE BEING PLACED AND WE'RE NOT LIABLE FOR DANGEROUS CONDITIONS, UNLESS WE'VE BEEN PLACED ON NOTICE. 
          AND IF WE GOING AROUND THE CITY, WRITING ALL OF OUR SIDEWALKS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS 60, 70, 80 YEARS OLD, IN SOME CASES, UM, THAT'S A BAD IDEA, UM, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          BUT THE HEAT MAP I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS PURELY COMPLAINTS WHERE THE SHOPS ARE GOING OUT. 
          IF, IF DOING A PCI RATING ON SIDEWALKS, EXACTLY LIKE WE DO WITH OUR STREETS, GIVING THEM A FAIR, YOU KNOW, GOOD, FAIR, POOR, WHAT IT FAILED, UH, RATING, IF THAT WOULD CREATE A LEGAL PROBLEM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT, IT, IT WOULD, YES. 
          THEY COULD SKIP THAT IDEA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD TO KNOW. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE'RE BEING PREMATURELY, PRESCIENT BY NOT, NOT WRITING THIS OUT LOSS OR JUST, WE DIDN'T GET AROUND EITHER WAY. 
          IT WORKED OUT WELL, WHATEVER WORKS. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN JERRY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS 
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FOR OR BRIAN, WHEN WE DO A BOND ISSUE ON STREETS, DOES THAT INCLUDE SIDEWALKS GENERALLY? NO, BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS AREN'T PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          WELL, YOU COULD, YOU CAN TELL ME DIFFERENTLY ON THIS. 
          WELL, WHEN WE, WHEN WE RECONSTRUCT STREETS, WE, WE RECONSTRUCT EVERYTHING FROM RIGHT-AWAY LAND TO RIDEAWAY LINE AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE OUT JUST OUTSIDE THE RIGHT-AWAY ON THE SIDEWALKS ARE WITHIN OUR, THE LOCATED WITHIN THE RAILWAY. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE THEN BECAUSE WE DO SIDEWALKS. 
          WE DO BRAVO DRIVE APPROACHES. 
          IF IT'S A FRONT ENTRY, ANYTHING THAT BASICALLY WE GO ALL THE WAY PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE AND GET ALL THE CONCRETE REPLACED. 
          AND THAT'S TYPICAL, EVEN WITH THE MAJOR STREETS, IT WOULD BE, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE PEOPLE, THE STREETS THAT'S INCLUDING SIDEWALKS TO. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN, EVEN, EVEN THE MAJOR ARTERIALS, WHEN YOU REPLACE THE STREETS, YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALKS OR INSTALL SIDEWALKS IF THEY DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. 
          THANK YOU, BJ, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR WERE YOU JUST FLAGGING ME FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE CAN'T, UM, IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, MY, MY DREAM PROGRAM WOULD BE THAT WE JUST HEAR, HEAR COMPLAINTS, BUT NOT MAKE CITIZENS GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND HAVE IT BE ISOLATED HOUSE BY HOUSE. 
          BUT WHERE WE, AS A CITY WOULD HAVE SOME WAY WITHOUT CROSS AGE INTO A BAD PART OF THE LAW, HAVE SOME WAY TO GO IN AND DO BLOCK BLOCKS, UM, INSTEAD OF GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN BY CITIZEN. 
          SO IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, A NEED TO DEVELOP PRIORITIZE SYSTEM FOR EVALUATING REQUESTS, IF, IF WE, HOW CAN WE STEP AWAY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS AND MAKE THIS MORE OF A, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. 
          YOU ALREADY DO THIS WITH STREETS. 
          SO WITHOUT GOING IN PCS SHORT OF, IF YOU'RE NOW WHAT DRIVES A LOT OF OUR STREET REPAIRS IS THE PCI. 
          SO ABSENT A PCI, I THINK, UH, A IF WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINT. 
          AND LIKE I SAY, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE HEAT MAP IS KIND OF A GOOD IDEA. 
          AT LEAST WE CAN FLAG WHERE WE'VE GOT COMPLAINTS AND WE CAN LOG THAT IN OUR SYSTEM OR WE'VE GOT COMPLAINTS. 
          AND THEN WE CAN TAKE AN OVERALL LOOK AT THE MAP OF, OKAY, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN THIS AREA. 
          LET'S GO LOOK, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT, IS THIS AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO DO OVERALL REPAIRS ON? AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH STRAIGHT CONDITION. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF THE STREET CONDITION IS SO POOR, THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALK AND THEN TEAR THAT BACK OUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO THERE'S A BALANCING ACT THERE ON, BUT ON STREETS WHERE THERE ARE PRETTY GOOD STREET CONDUCT, I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE, BUT IF THE STREETS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION, BUT THE SIDEWALKS HAVE GOT A LOT OF ISOLATED FAILURES AND YET YOU COULD COME IN AND CLEAN, CLEAN UP ALL THE BAD AREAS ON A STREET AND ALL THAT. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S JUST DRIVEN BY TREE ROOTS OR VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, OR A SETTLED SPOT OR SOMETHING WHERE A UTILITY LINE IS SETTLED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO THOSE CAN BE DRIVEN WHERE YOU MAY NOT HAVE BAD STREETS AND THE STREETS AREN'T SCHEDULED FOR REPLACEMENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE AREAS OF TARGETS, ALMOST LIKE WHAT WE'RE TARGETING THESE CONCRETE REPAIRS INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE'RE GOING IN AND CLEANING UP NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YOU COULD DO THE SAME THING WITH SIDEWALKS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, STEVE, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          IF, IF WE ADOPTED THIS, THIS PROGRAM FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING, UM, WOULD IT BE, HOW, HOW DO YOU ENVISION IT BEING PHASED IN TO EXISTING PROGRAM? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT TO DO SO BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. 
          NOW IT, WE WOULD ELIMINATE THE, HAVING TO WORK THROUGH CONSUMER CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          WE WOULD BE GATHERING THAT WE WOULD STILL BE GATHERING THE LOCATIONS AND, AND GOING OUT AND INVESTIGATING, SEE IF THEY QUALIFY AND WE COULD, AND THEN WE COULD TAG THOSE LOCATIONS THAT QUALIFY, YOU KNOW, ON A MAP. 
          AND WE HAVE OUR, WE COULD HAVE A CREATE A MAP THAT WOULD BE OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HEAT MAP, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM FOR THE, FOR THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN, WHERE WE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE. 
          I THINK IF YOU GET A COMPLAINT ON THE STREET, THEY COULD PROBABLY, THE INSPECTOR COULD JUST LOOK AT THE ENTIRE STREET AND SAY, OKAY, IT'S MORE THAN JUST, IF IT'S MORE THAN JUST AN ISOLATED, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST AN ISOLATED, YOU KNOW, ONE TREE SHE DEPRE ROOT, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT MAY BE MORE, YOU KNOW, STREET WIDE AND IT WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WENT TO THAT, THEN OBVIOUSLY ELIMINATE YOUR ISSUE OF THE CITIZEN WALKING OUT 
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WHILE WE'RE FIXING OR REPAIR. 
          WELL, I LIKED THAT DONE TOO WELL. 
          HERE'S THE PROCESS. 
          AND BY THE TIME THEY GET THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'RE LONG, THE CONTRACTORS LONG GONE. 
          OKAY. 
          MY SECOND QUESTION AS STEVE, WHAT'S OUR UNDER THE CURRENT PROGRAM, WHAT'S OUR SATISFACTION RESPONSE RATE. 
          HARVEY. 
          I'M LOOKING FOR WORDS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WHAT WE GET A REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN ABOUT SIDEWALKS. 
          WE RESPOND TO THOSE, WHAT'S A FIXED RATE, I GUESS, MAYBE FOR LACK OF A BETTER HISTORICALLY I THINK MICHAEL, HASN'T BEEN AROUND 50%. 
          IT'S BEEN AROUND 50%, BUT IN MORE RECENT YEARS, IT'S AROUND 37, 30 8%. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LIKE I SAY, W WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GETTING SO FAR. 
          I THINK WE'VE HAD 18 OF THE ONES WE'VE MAPPED OUT. 
          WE'VE HAD 18 PEOPLE PAY IN AND READY TO GO, BUT WE HAVE CLEARED TO YOUR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BEFORE WE'VE CLEARED ALL OUR REQUESTS. 
          AND SO THEY'VE ALL GONE THROUGH TO CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          SO NOW WE'RE HANDLING THEM AS THEY COME ALONG. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, OKAY, SORRY. 
          UM, MICHAEL, UH, MICHAEL, MY QUESTION IS, UM, TH TH THE DRY, THE DROPPING OF SIGNAGE IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SHARED COST AND A PART OF A CITIZEN ST. 
          MICHAEL, YES. 
          ON, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF PARTICIPATION THAT, THAT SPIKED WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WENT THROUGH THE REDUCTIONS. 
          THEN AFTER THAT, UM, I THINK IT WAS A REBIDDING OF THE CONCRETE CONTRACT PRICES ESCALATED. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH THE PRICE STILL BEING HIGHER, WE STILL HAD MORE PEOPLE THAT DECIDED IT IS STILL A LITTLE BIT TOO RICH FOR THEIR BLOOD. 
          SO THEY BACKED OUT OF IT. 
          SO WE'LL SEE. 
          I MEAN, AS, AS, AS I INDICATED, OUR, OUR PRICE WITH THE MOST RECENT BID CAME DOWN. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE MAY SEE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THAT, BUT IT'S STILL TOO EARLY THAT WE HADN'T HAD ENOUGH RESULTS TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF WILL END UP ON WHEN WE GET THEM ALL EVALUATED. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE, LIKE I SAY, WE'VE HAD, I THINK, 18, SO FAR OF THE, AND I THINK THEY'VE SENT OUT MAYBE A HUNDRED OF THOSE HUNDRED AND 50, 60 POSTS SENT OUT ABOUT 130 OF THEM. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ALSO IN, HE, YOU SAY ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID, OPTION ONE, UH, LIKE REPAIRS AND ODD DISTRICTS AND RDS, AND EVEN DISTRICTS, AND EVEN, AND EVEN YEARS, THAT'S KIND OF A TEST SORT OF A PILOT. 
          I MEAN, UH, THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IF, IF YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION CAME UP AND I THINK COUNCILMAN HOT-BUTTON RAISED THAT QUESTION AND BE CAREFUL ABOUT GOING JUST TO FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. 
          SO IF WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO REPAIR IN ODD DISTRICTS THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, WE HAVE A FULL YEAR TO TAKE REQUESTS TO EVALUATE THEM AND DETERMINE, OKAY, WHICH ONES ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO DO RATHER THAN JUST THE FIRST GUY THAT SENT IN GOD GOT HIS FIXED BECAUSE HE SENT IN, WHEREAS THE LAST PERSON THAT TURNED IN ON, IN DECEMBER, OR, YOU KNOW, FOUND BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, FOUND OUT, YEAH, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT. 
          AND IT SAYS, YEAH, THAT'S A LOT WORSE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THAT. 
          AND IT WILL GIVE US AT LEAST AN ABILITY TO EVALUATE THOSE OVER A COURSE OF A YEAR AND REALLY DETERMINED TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK IF WE'RE SPENDING THAT, THAT MONEY. 
          AND WE MAY, THEORETICALLY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEM. 
          WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IF, IF WE'RE RUNNING SHORT, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO, TO, TO SOMEHOW HAVE SOME KIND OF SYSTEM TO, TO EVALUATE AND RATE THOSE RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LASTLY, UH, STEVE ALSO ON, ON THIS SCREEN, IT SAYS, YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT, UH, WITH SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED DEMAND ON SIDEWALK STAFF AND YOU LIST SEVERAL BULLETS THAT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT SIDEWALK INSPECTORS AND EQUATE SUBSET AND 5 CENTS OF THAT TIME. 
          CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE BULLETS THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE CAR? THE IMPACT THE SIDEWALK INSPECTOR, YOU KNOW, NOW IS, IS WHEN THE REQUESTS COME IN TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL, THEN SHE IS FORWARDING THOSE TO THE SIDEWALK. 
          SPECTER TO LOOK AT THE SIDEWALK. 
          SPECTRA GOES OUT, LOOKS AT THEM, DETERMINES WHETHER THEY QUALIFY OR DON'T QUALIFY. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT, OKAY, ONCE WE DETERMINE IS QUALIFIED AND HE'S GOT TO MEASURE THEM UP AND THEN COME UP WITH COST ESTIMATES. 
          SO AS HE DOES THE MEASURE UP AND THE COST ESTIMATE, THEN, THEN THAT INFORMATION GETS SENT BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON THAT SHE WORKS WITH REVENUE RECOVERY TOO. 
          SO ONCE HE GETS THE RAUL ESTIMATES, SHE'LL FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO REVENUE, RECOVERY, AND REVENUE RECOVERY, THEN WE'LL ADDRESS WE'LL APPLY THE APPROPRIATE DISCOUNTS, WHETHER THEY QUALIFY AS A CDBG OR A HOMEOWNER OR AN AGENT DISABLED. 
          AND SO THEN ONCE THE INFORMATION IS SENT OUT, IF THEY GET, WHEN THE MONEY COMES BACK INTO REVENUE, RECOVERY, THEN REVENUE RECOVERY WILL NOTIFY US AND SAY, OKAY, THIS 
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ADDRESS SAID THEY WANT TO HAVE IT DONE. 
          AND SO WE GET THAT SCHEDULED, OBVIOUSLY, IF THE NUMBER OF SIDEWALK REQUESTS DOUBLE THAN THAT DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE PERSON'S GOT TO GO OUT, INSPECTING, INSPECTING SIDEWALKS, TO DETERMINE IF THEY QUALIFY THEORETICALLY. 
          PERHAPS IF WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY, MAYBE THE, THE, THE TIME SPENT DOING COST ESTIMATES AND CALCULATIONS LIKE THAT, BUT STILL WE'LL HAVE TO CALCULATE ESTIMATES FOR THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN MEASURE UP AND LET THE CONTRACTOR KNOW AT, AT THIS ADDRESS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE OUT X NUMBER OF FEET, AND HE'S GOT TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF SOD AND SOIL AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO WITH IT. 
          SO THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A COST ESTIMATE CALCULATION FOR EACH LOCATION FOR THE, FOR THE CONTRACTOR. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT STAFF. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON IS TAKING A LOT MORE CALLS THAN THEY'RE HAVING TO EVALUATE AND WORK WITH THAT WORK WITH INSPECTORS ON THE CALL LOCATION, IT MAY GET SOFTENED BY SOME OF THAT TIME WILL GET SOFTENED BY THE FACT THAT SHE WILL NOT NO LONGER, SHE WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH REVENUE RECOVERY. 
          SO THAT COULD, THAT COULD FREE UP SOME MORE OF THAT TIME. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T THINK INITIALLY WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON THAT THAT TIME COULD BE ABSORBED IN. 
          AND NOW SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT SHE HANDLES MAY HAVE TO BE KIND OF SPLIT OUT OR WHATEVER. 
          AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, WITH INSPECTOR, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEE OVER TIME. 
          AND IT REALLY, A LOT OF THAT WOULD DEPEND UPON HOW, WHAT PERMUTATION OF THAT, THAT WE DECIDED GO TO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MY LAST QUESTION, MAN, AND SHARE PREMISE, UM, UM, STEVE, I LIKE THIS CONCEPT OF GOING TO IT. 
          UM, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO MICHAEL, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME IDEA, MAYBE SOME IDEA OF COST. 
          WHAT, WHAT IF WE GO WITH, LET'S SAY WE GO, UH, E EVEN OUR DISTRICTS, WHAT, WHAT LET'S SAY YEAR ONE, AND WE PICK, YEAH, THERE ARE DISTRICTS. 
          SO WE PUT ONE, THREE. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE BASED ON WHATEVER YOUR PROJECTIONS ARE OF THE NUMBER OF ELIGIBLES ELIGIBLES IN THOSE DISTRICTS? IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU ALL COULD I JUST LIKE TO, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TO US HERE IS THAT IT WOULD BE AN AVERAGE ANNUAL FUNDING OF 750,000. 
          THIS WOULD JUST BE PART OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. 
          WE WOULD JUST SAY, IT'D BE THIS MUCH IN A YEAR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAID. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MICHAEL? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE, THE BOND FUND HAS FUNDING FOR APPROXIMATELY $750,000 OVER THE COURSE. 
          YES. 
          FOR 340 REPAIRS. 
          SO IS THAT, WOULD, WOULD THAT BE YOUR PROJECTION? WE WENT TO THE EVEN ODD CYCLE ON MICHAEL. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S, I DID THAT CALCULATION. 
          I MEAN, REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE LIMITED BY 750,000, IF YOU'RE LIMITED BY THAT BUDGET, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE APPROXIMATELY 340 REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, THERE SOME WILL BE LARGER, SOME WILL BE BIGGER, BUT WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS THAT WE COULD CONDUCT IN ANY ONE YEAR ON AVERAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, IT'S HARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, AS IF PROCESS KEEPS ESCALATING, IT MAY GO NOW WE DID GO LOWER, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT AS THEY RENEW, THEY WON'T, THOSE PRICES WON'T CONTINUE TO GO UP, BUT AFTER TODAY'S DOLLARS, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY THREE AND 40 REPAIRS WE COULD MAKE IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR. 
          I GUARANTEE IT IS PRICES ARE GOING TO GO. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          STEVE, YOU SAY THE AVERAGE COST OF SIDEWALK REPAIR IS 2,200 BASED ON THE ONES THAT WE EVER RECEIVED TODAY, YOU THINK IS THE SAME PRICE NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          THOSE ARE BASED OFF OUR CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WAS ESTIMATES ARE BASED THAT $2,220 ON TODAY'S WORLD. 
          WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING, THE CONTRACTOR HAS A TERM CONTRACT, SO IT'LL BE GOOD FOR THIS YEAR. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE AN OPTION. 
          THEY HAVE FOUR OPTIONS TO RENEW. 
          SO EACH YEAR THAT THEY WERE NEW, THEY CAN, IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEIR COSTS HAVE GONE UP, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE CONTRACT PROCESS TO GO UP. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE THIS YEAR, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT GOING FORWARD AND EXCEEDING YEARS, IT WOULDN'T BE HIGH I'M SURE WILL BE EVENTUALLY ARE, WAS THAT B PARTICIPATE IN, THAT'S JUST THE THAT'S THE A HUNDRED PERCENT COST THAT $2,220. 
          SO NOW THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY IT'S AUTOMATICALLY BEING CUT TO $1,110. 
          AND THEN IF THEY GET OTHER DISCOUNTS, IT CAN GO DOWN FROM THERE. 
          BUT THAT TOTAL 2,220 IS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT COST OF DOING THAT. 
          WHEN I DID THIS REPAIR MONK, THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THEY 
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QUOTED ME 6,500 AND HERE 2000 THAT'S BASED ON THE AVERAGE ONE. 
          AND THAT ON THE AVERAGE ONE, I THINK THAT THERE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A TYPICAL 70 TO 80 FOOT, LOTS, YOU MIGHT ONLY HAVE 2020 FEET OF THE SIDEWALL TO GETS REPLACED. 
          WHEN, WHEN WE GET A REPAIR WHERE WE FIX THE PART THAT'S BAD. 
          SO NOW IF A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, YOU'LL GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT. 
          BUT IF ONLY, YOU KNOW, 10 FEET NEED TO BE REPLACED, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE'RE REPLACING. 
          EVEN IF THE REST OF IT, YOU KNOW, IF THE CONTRACT, IF THE CITIZEN SAYS, WELL, I'D LIKE ALL MY SIDEWALK REPLACED SO THAT IT'S ALL NICE AND WHITE AND MATCHES YOU. 
          AND THAT YOU DID NEGOTIATE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND NEGOTIATE A PRICE FOR THE STUFF OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE WERE REPAIRED. 
          BUT WE, WE, WE WILL ONLY PAY FOR, WE ONLY PARTICIPATE IN THAT, THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA AND THE ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO COMMITTEE, HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS. 
          UM, THE, THE PRESENT PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO REDUCE COSTS, TO FIND DISCOUNTS, TO DO ALL THAT, IT IS A FUSSY PROCESS. 
          THAT IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS FOR A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND, AND FOR A PARTICULARLY, FOR SOME OF OUR OLDER RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN OLDER HOUSES, WHERE THE SIDEWALKS ARE THE WORST, THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD THE FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, UM, UP FRONT TO PAY FOR THEIR SIDEWALK TO BE REPAIRED. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. 
          THEY WILL NOT LET US PUT A, LEASE A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL NEVER MAKE THEM LOSE, THEY WILL NOT. 
          SO, UM, SO, UM, THE APPEAL OF MOVING, UH, JUST TAKING ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE WAY, ALSO TAKING OUT THE, GOING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING THROUGH THE, THE KIND OF FUSSY PROCESS TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE A NEW SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF ONE HOUSE AND NOT IN FRONT OF ALL THE REST OF THE HOUSES. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST IT'S BODY AND IT'S, IT'S ALL WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THOSE REQUESTS AS QUICKLY AS YOU HAVE. 
          THAT IS, UM, THAT IS PRETTY AND WELL DONE. 
          UM, I LIKED THE IDEA OF MOVING TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDING AND JUST FINDING THE WAY TO MAKE THIS SENSIBLE. 
          SO IF WE, IF WE CAN'T DO A SIDEWALK, PCI, WHICH WE CAN'T, UM, I, I AM KIND OF LEANING IN THE FIRST BULLET POINT THERE UNDER, UH, UM, NEED TO DEVELOP PRIORITIZE SYSTEM. 
          UH, I SEE SOME, UM, I SEE SOME POTENTIAL, UH, LANDMINES IF WE DO THE ODD AND EVEN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE WILL GET TICKED OFF. 
          UM, BUT THE SECOND ONE TAKE REQUESTS AND EVALUATE IN A PREVIOUS YEAR ALLOWS FOR PRIORITIZATION BASED ON SEVERITY, ADA ISSUES, ET CETERA. 
          I LIKE THAT IT'S SENSIBLE. 
          AND IT ISN'T THE TAKING THE REQUESTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO AND FILL OUT ALL THIS STUFF. 
          THIS IS BASICALLY HAVING COMPLAINTS, UH, LOGGING COMPLAINTS, SEEING WHERE PROBLEMS ARE AND EVALUATING THEM. 
          THE STREET DEPARTMENT CAN GO DO THAT AND DECIDING JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH STREETS, OKAY, THIS IS AN AREA WE WANT TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALKS IN THIS BLOCK OR IN THESE TWO BLOCKS. 
          WELL, I THINK EVEN KNOW THAT SCENARIO, I THINK WE WOULD STILL TRY TO ADHERE TO THE, THE CRITERIA AND THE ORDINANCE AND, AND, AND NOT WHAT AREN'T WE DOING. 
          WHOLESCALE, YOU KNOW, WHOLESCALE SIDEWALL, BUT WE WOULD REPLACE THE FAILED AREAS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE STREET, BUT THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY RESULT IN A COMPLETELY A HUNDRED PERCENT NEW SIDEWALK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, SO THIS WOULDN'T BE RECONSTRUCTION LIKE WE DO WHEN YOU RECONSTRUCT A STREET AND IT'S ALL BRAND NEW SIDEWALKS, BUT IT WOULD BE MAKING, GIVING THE SIDEWALK INTEGRITY ON THE WHOLE BLOCK INSTEAD OF JUST IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE OF THE PERSON WHO CAN PAY OR WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND, AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          SO, UM, SO AGAIN, COMMITTEE I'M, I AM LEANING TOWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDING DO AWAY WITH THE REVENUE RECOVERY, DO AWAY WITH THE, UH, DISCOUNTS, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU IN A CDBG AREA? ARE YOU OLD? ARE YOU DISABLED? UM, I FORGET OUR OTHER CRITERIA. 
          UM, OH, WELL, YEAH, HOMEOWNER, UM, AND, AND MOVE MORE TOWARD A HOLISTIC LIFESTYLE, MAKING NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, MORE WALKABLE, 
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UM, BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S TRUE. 
          A LOT OF TENANTS, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS. 
          AND A LOT OF, UNFORTUNATELY THEIR OWNERS AREN'T NECESSARILY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH AND I THINK WOULD GIVE US BETTER RESULTS. 
          AND YEAH, AND IT WOULD BE, OUR FUNDING WOULD BE LIMITED TO OUR ANNUAL FUNDING AND THE REPAIRS WOULD BE LIMITED TO HOW MANY REPAIRS WE CAN MAKE THAT YEAR WITH THE MONEY WE HAD. 
          AND IT WILL DEPEND EACH YEAR WHEN WE MAKE OUR BUDGET. 
          UM, SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY BASIC IDEAS, BUT I DO, I DO LIKE THE EVALUATING ONE YEAR DECIDING WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND THEN PRIORITIZING AND MOVING INTO ACTION AND KNOCKING THOSE OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER CYCLE, UM, MAKES SENSE TO, TO USE STEVE INTO YOUR GROUP. 
          WELL, I'M ACTUALLY, TH THAT OPTION GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO, IF YOU'RE COLLECTING OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE YOU MAY RECEIVE MAY BE THE MOST NEEDY, RIGHT? AND IT DOESN'T MAXI AS OPPOSED TO THE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, OR YOU MAY HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME, MONEY BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE WORST ONES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE DOING LIMITING IT TO CERTAIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, YOU CAN HAVE, UH, CRIES FOR HELP COME IN FROM A VERY NEEDY AREA. 
          BUT, OH, WELL, YOU'RE NOT ON YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG NUMBER. 
          I THINK EVEN, EVEN, EVEN IF YOU WENT WITH THAT SCENARIO, IF THERE WERE SOME SEVERE, PARTICULARLY ADA TYPE ISSUES THAT WE COULD WORK OUTSIDE OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT YOU HAVE, THAT WOULD KIND OF BE THE FRAMEWORK FOR, FOR DOING IT. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE EXCEPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU WITH THE SECOND OPTION THAT YOU LISTED HERE, THE TAKING REQUESTS AND EVALUATING IN A PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THEN PRIORITIZING HAVING IT BE MORE OF A CITYWIDE VIEW? IS THAT CONTROLLABLE? IS THAT DOABLE? I THINK SO. 
          AND, AND THE ABILITY, I MEAN, THERE, WE COULD, WE CAN STILL SPREAD THE WEALTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          IT MAY MIGHT GO INTO DAM LIKE WE DID WITH STREET REPAIRS WHERE WE'LL MOVE AROUND TO DIFFERENT AREAS OF CITY, BUT WE'LL GO IN AND KNOCK OUT AN AREA. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT WITH THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LET'S SAY, IT'D BE, I MEAN, NOW THAT THE REQUEST FORMAT WOULD BE TO SIMILAR TO A POTHOLE REPAIR, SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS, GOT A POTHOLE IN THE STREET CAN COME FIX IT. 
          WELL, THEN WE'RE JUST DOING IMMEDIATELY. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE LOGGING THEM. 
          AND THAT WOULD GIVE US THE BASIS ON WHICH AREAS THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          STEVE. 
          YES. 
          UM, ON, UM, SIDEWALKS, UH, DO WE HAVE A DEAL, BUT GIVEN, UM, A PERSON THAT'S DISABLED THAT YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. 
          REMEMBER THAT DAVID'S GUY THAT I TOLD YOU TO CALL THERE IS THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THE, THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT GIVES THE DIRECTOR OF STREETS, THE ABILITY, THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE A FEE, IF, IF NECESSARILY, PARTICULARLY FOR, UH, FOR, UH, UH, DISABILITY TYPE ISSUE. 
          WE'VE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SOMETIMES GO, AND IF WE GET REQUESTS THAT ARE SOMETIMES THAT ARE ADA RELATED IN, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE NOT IN, IF THE REQUESTER IS REQUESTING FOR SOME OTHER LOCATION, OTHER THAN IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, WE, WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DO THAT. 
          IF, IF NECESSARY, WE, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UM, UM, WE'RE GOING TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE MY OFFICE WILL STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO, UM, UM, PUT THE WITH ADA COMPLAINTS ASIDE TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY IF WE CAN, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME DISABLED PEOPLE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          I TOLD HIM TO CHECK AND HE TOLD ME THAT YOU HAVE, THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TENDED TO, YEAH. 
          FAYE FITS AN ADA. 
          IF THERE'S, IF THEY PURPORTED AS AN ADA ISSUE, WE TEND TO LOOK AT THAT AND PUT IT TO THE TOP OF THE TOP OF THE PILE. 
          AND WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT. 
          AND LIKE I SAY, WE DO, WE DO HAVE THAT DISCRETION. 
          THE OWNERS DOES GIVE THAT DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE THE FEE IF NECESSARY FOR IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT OR WHATEVER. 
          AND IT, IT IS TRULY AN ADA ISSUE. 
          WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. 
          AND DOES IT, THIS, UH, THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW WORKING PRETTY GOOD IN YOUR CASE, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING PLENTY OF REQUESTS AND WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THEM. 
          AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO GET, UH, LIKE I SAY, IT'S HARD TO TELL AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO SHORT AT WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE WE'RE GOING TO GET OF PEOPLE THAT WILL COMMIT TO IT. 
          BUT, UM, THE CON WHERE THE CONTRACTOR WE'VE GOT DOING, IT'S ALSO WORKING ON CURBS SO THAT GUY'S GOT, HE'S GOT PLENTY OF WORK TO DO. 
          SO THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH SIDEWALKS. 
          WE COULD GET THE, GRAB THE CURVES WHILE WE'RE 
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IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. 
          IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST ISOLATED, UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT HALF TO TWO THIRDS OF YOUR, OF YOUR CURB BREAKOUTS ARE BECAUSE OF JUMP HAWKS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE GYM WALLS, THEY DON'T PUT THE PROPER EXPANSION MATERIAL IN, IN THE SUMMER COMES AND THEY EXPAND AND THEY KNOCK OUT THE CURB. 
          YOU DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT COMMITTEE, AS FAR AS GIVING, GIVING GUIDANCE, AND AGAIN, I'M WATCHING THE CLOCK BECAUSE WE HAVE GUESTS HERE, I BELIEVE WHO ARE HERE FOR THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT. 
          AM I CORRECT IN THINKING, OKAY. 
          UM, ARE, ARE, WOULD YOU ALL BE OKAY? WOULD, UM, WOULD THIS COMMITTEE BE OKAY WITH HAVING, UM, HAVING STEVE MOVE FORWARD AND COME, COMING BACK TO US NEXT MONTH, SAYING WE ARE INTERESTED IN MOVING TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDING. 
          WE'RE INTERESTED IN THIS PRIORITIZATION BASED ON SEVERITY AND ADA ISSUES, AND TO BRING BACK TO US A, UM, KIND OF A TARGETED, MORE CONCRETE PLAN THAT WE COULD ACT ON, UM, NEXT MONTH. 
          IS THAT DOABLE FOR YOU? YES, MA'AM. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DO OR BOTH OKAY. 
          WITH, UM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR 100%. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T, UH, THE CONCEPT I FAVORITE, UM, I KNOW STEVE, STEVE STEVE'S TEAM HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITHIN THE ADA AREAS. 
          I KNOW EVERY TIME MY DISTRICT RESPONDENT THEY'VE JUMPED RIGHT ON IT. 
          SO THAT'S AT LEAST IN MY WORST. 
          UH, I AGREE WITH YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T FAVOR OPTION ONE BECAUSE THAT'LL LEAD TO SOME INTERNAL BELLUS BATTLES AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT. 
          UM, SO I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          COME BACK NEXT MONTH. 
          UH, AGAIN, IF THOSE, IF THOSE, THOSE COST PROJECTIONS OR EVEN ANOTHER NUMBERS IN MIND, JUST THAT STEVE, AND WHAT, WHAT SORT OF AN IMPLEMENTATION A ROLLOUT LOOK LIKE? NOT, NOT IN CONCRETE. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S KIND OF, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE IN A ROLLOUT BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE TAKES IT TO COUNCIL? STEVE, CAN WE DO SOMETHING SO ANT AND LOOKING AT THE COST AND ALSO STAFFING, CAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS DOWN HERE ABOUT STAFFING IMPACT. 
          SO, SO, OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, OBVIOUSLY, YEAH. 
          HOW WE WOULD, HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM THAT THAT'S NOT DIFFICULT. 
          AND I GUESS IN THE COST, I MEAN, YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE COST INFORMATION, I GUESS WE WOULD BE LIMITED BY OBVIOUSLY THE ANNUAL FUNDING. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF SET IN PLACE. 
          SO THOSE NUMBERS THAT'LL GOVERN, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I GUESS WE COULD KIND OF LOOK, WE COULD DO SOME INVESTIGATION OF, OKAY. 
          BASED ON SOME OF OUR LOCATIONS, IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM, I CAN HAVE AN INSPECTOR CHECK. 
          A FEW OF THOSE LOCATIONS SAY, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE STREET, WHEN WE GET A CALL, HOW MANY LOCATIONS WOULD WE DO IF WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND JUST CLEAN UP EVERYTHING AND WE CAN GET SOME, SOME METRICS ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, I'M GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT A FORMAL VOTE BECAUSE, UM, COUNCILMAN VERA WAS OPPOSED TO THIS. 
          SO THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS, IS OUR INSTRUCTION TO SAY, COME BACK TO US WITH A PROPOSAL FOR MOVING TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CITY FUNDING WITH, UM, UH, PRIORITIZING BASED ON SEVERITY ADA ISSUES AND, UM, STAYING WITHIN OUR ANNUAL COSTS, UM, TO CLEAN UP WHOLE, WHOLE AREAS, WHOLE BLOCKS AT A TIME THAT QUALIFY UNDER OUR CURRENT, UM, ORDINANCE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES. 
          THE REASON I OPPOSE THAT, I WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          GOING TO A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          WELL, WE GOT NOW AND WHAT HE WILL BRING BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, HE'LL, HE'LL BRING THEM BACK. 
          HE'LL BRING THEM BACK THE SAME, SAME NUMBERS HERE. 
          WELL, I WOULD ASSUME BECAUSE THIS IS OUR, THIS IS NO, THIS IS OUR BUDGETS. 
          SO W WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE, SO THIS WOULD BE OUR ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ONE ON, ON SLIDE TWO IS THAT'S, THAT'S THE FUNDING STREAM. 
          THAT'S SET UP IN THE, IN THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          IT COST US MORE THAN WE'RE BUDGETED FOR. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD, ASKING HIM TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, STEVE. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          UM, I WANT TO JUMP AHEAD QUICKLY, UM, BECAUSE, UM, UM, WE'RE GONNA GET TO SPEED. 
          HOMESITE REX. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR? ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO SPEED HUMPS? PAUL'S GOT HIS PAUL HERE. 
          I CAN'T SEE HIM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IF COMMITTEE, I WOULD LIKE, UM, WE HAVE HERE DISCUSS FOOD SERVICE, RENEWAL DISCOUNTS. 
          WE ACTUALLY ALREADY AGREED 
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THAT THIS SHOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO AGAIN, UM, UM, I DO, WE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          JASON. 
          I BELIEVE WE ALREADY GAVE THE THUMBS UP ON THAT AT ARE FIXED AND THAT TOOK CARE OF IT. 
          AND THAT ALLOWED MOBILE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT ONE IS READY TO REPORT OUT. 
          SO I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE CAN LET YOU GO DO SOMETHING MORE INTERESTING UNLESS, WELL, FOR THIS, FOR THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO MARK OFF NUMBER FOUR. 
          UM, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH, WE'VE GOT AN HOUR LEFT. 
          LET'S GET THROUGH THE SPEED HUMPS. 
          UM, PAUL, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND TALK US THROUGH THERE, YOU WERE HIDING OVER THERE. 
          THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T SEE YOUR BEHIND THE CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? DISCUSS WHERE DO YOU WANT, WHAT NUMBER? UH, WE ARE STILL ON NUMBER THREE ON THE SECOND PART OF IT BECAUSE IT'S SIDEWALKS AND SPEED HUMPS. 
          SO WE'D DONE SIDEWALKS AND WE'RE ON SPEED HUMPS. 
          SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUE WAS THE, UH, AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO, UM, ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO NOT HAVE TO DO IN PERSON, UH, GET THE SIGNATURES IN PERSON FROM THE, UH, GO DOOR TO DOOR AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH TODAY'S, UH, WITH COVID AND THERE, AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WITH, TO BE ABLE TO DO A, UM, AN ELECTRONIC OR SOME TYPE OF ALTERNATE WAY OF GETTING THE SIGNATURES. 
          UM, AFTER, AFTER GOING BACK AND TALKING ABOUT THIS AND LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE CLOSER, WE HAVE TO, AFTER THE, THE, THE PROCESS HAS ALWAYS INCLUDED AFTER THE, THE, THE, WHOEVER COLLECTS THE SIGNATURES. 
          AFTER THEY GO AROUND, COLLECT ALL THE SIGNATURES, THEY BRING BACK TO US, WE HAVE TO THEN GO EXTEND A CERTIFIED MAIL TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT. 
          UM, W WHAT I THINK WOULD WORK BEST. 
          AND ACTUALLY IT WOULDN'T CREATE ANY EXTRA WORK FOR US WOULD BE TO JUST SEND THAT CERTIFIED MAIL OUT UPFRONT, UM, ALLOW THEM TO SIGN THAT PETITION, SEND IT BACK TO US. 
          AND, UH, IT WOULD ACTUALLY KIND OF KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'D BE A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO DO THAT, AND ALSO TAKE CARE OF ANY ISSUES WITH, UH, PEOPLE THAT AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH ELECTRONICS OR DOING THINGS DIGITALLY OR ONLINE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I THINK IT REALLY BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. 
          THAT SOUNDS SENSIBLE IT. 
          WHAT DO THE CERTIFIED LETTERS SAY AND DO, DOES THEIR SIGNATURE COMMIT THEM TO PAYING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS? NO, I, IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEND OUT NOW, RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE SEND OUT AS A LETTER SAYING, WE, WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOU SIGNING THIS PETITION. 
          WE JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT YOU DID, AND, AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED YOUR MIND BASICALLY, UM, OR THAT SOMEONE DIDN'T SIGN FOR YOU THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD CREATE A NEW, A NEW FORM. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, OF, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING WHAT THE SITUATION IS THAT THERE'S A SPEED HUMP PROPOSED AT A CERTAIN LOCATION AND, UH, ASKING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, AGREE OR DISAGREE AND MAIL SOMETHING BACK TO US. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POSTCARD OR WHAT THAT IS, BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT EASY. 
          WOULD THERE BE A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT INVOLVED? NO, NO. 
          THERE'S IN FACT, I BELIEVE THE PETITION NOW I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I THINK IT SAYS NOW THAT THEY AREN'T, THEY AREN'T COMMITTED TO ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL OBLIGATION BY SIGNING UP THE PETITION, SO THAT, THAT WOULD CONTINUE THROUGH. 
          AND SO THEN THE, THE STREET WOULD BE EVALUATED FOR THAT. 
          THERE WOULD BE AT THAT POINT, WHAT IT COSTS TO BE ASSIGNED AND SPLIT OUT AMONG PEOPLE WHO, HOW WOULD THAT PROCESS WORK? WELL, IT WOULD STILL GO BACK TO THE PERSON THAT APPLIED FOR THE SPEED HUMP IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH THEIR, THEIR, THE COST. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S A FIXED COST. 
          UM, AND BASED ON THAT, THEY, THEY COULD JUST LIKE, NOW THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE HOWEVER THEY WANTED TO PAY FOR IT, WHERE THEY COULD PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES. 
          THEY COULD TAKE UP A COLLECTION, HAVE A BAKE SALE, WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO DO. 
          SO, PAUL, THANK YOU. 
          UM, HOW MUCH DOES A SPEED BUMP IN THE ALLEY COST? THAT'S A, I HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT QUESTION A LONG TIME. 
          NO, NO. 
          I THINK IT'S LESS THAN THE REGULAR STREET HUMPS IN THE STREET OR 700. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, BASICALLY HALF THE COST OF INSTALLATION. 
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I I'D HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON WHATEVER. 
          SO WE PUT THE STRAIGHT BUMPS IN THE STREET IS $700, RIGHT. 
          OR FOR THAT STREET, RIGHT. 
          FOR EACH HUB. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT BEHIND MY HOUSE, UM, FROM THIS STREET HERE TO THIS OTHER STREET, THEY DRIVE PRETTY FAST THROUGH THERE TAKING A SHORTCUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A HOME TO PUT IT IN THE ALLEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THOSE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, GARBAGE TRUCKS AND ALL THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I I'M, I'M ABOUT 90%. 
          SURE. 
          IT'S LESS. 
          I WOULD WANT TO SAY IT'S HALF, BUT I, LET ME, LET ME LOOK AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE THIS, UM, THIS RECOMMENDATION TO JUST SKIP THE DOOR TO DOOR PETITION NEED, SEND OUT US TO SEND OUT A CERTIFIED LETTERS AND LET IT GO LIKE THAT. 
          THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS TO BEGIN WITH? SO THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. 
          THAT SEEMS VERY PRACTICAL. 
          THE GUY THAT DOES, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT PUT THE APPLICATION IN, HE'S THE ONE THAT GOT RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT. 
          TO GET THE LIGHTER SIGN. 
          NO, I, AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD WANT TO, UM, I'D WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO DO IT EITHER WAY, JUST BECAUSE A BE GOOD. 
          I, I SUSPECT THAT YOU WILL GET LESS, UH, SIGNATURES THAT WE JUST, IF WE SEND IT OUT, WELL, THE FIRST THING, THE FIRST THING EVERYBODY SAYS, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST ME? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S BOTTOM LINE RIGHT THERE. 
          HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST ME. 
          AND, AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO COST YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING FOR IT. 
          IT'S HOWEVER MUCH THEY WANT TO. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING OR THEY DON'T HAVE TO, IF THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT. 
          AND AS LONG AS THEY SIGN IT'S OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE OTHER GUY WANTS TO DO IT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO AN OPTION, SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO IT AS THEY'RE DOING NOW, OR IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO DOOR TO DOOR, THEN WE CAN JUST SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH. 
          UM, I'M GOOD. 
          I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          I'M NOT NECESSARILY, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY PROOFREAD THE LETTER THAT PAUL DOES. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU ARE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE OUR STREETS. 
          YOU ARE MAN. 
          TO TELL. 
          I DEFINITELY HAVE COME IN AND SEEN YOU TO PREPARE THAT LETTER, SO I DON'T NEED TO SEE IT. 
          YOU MADAM CHAIR, ESM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE WILL CARRY ON FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM FIVE IS DISCUSSED THE REGULATION OF FOOD TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AND COMMITTEE. 
          YOU SHOULD EACH HAVE, UH, THE LAST COPY OF THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL JUST TAKE A MINUTE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE FINAL, LAST BITTER AND RUN THROUGH THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT WE ARE ALL STILL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, ACTUALLY, CAN I GET YOU TO JUST GO DOWN AT, WITH US? ALL RIGHT, BYE. 
          UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS ORDINANCE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD TRUCKS, UM, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT THE CITY TYPICALLY FACES. 
          ONE BEING, UM, UM, A SITUATION THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED IN ANOTHER ORDINANCE. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE FUTURE OF FOOD, TRUCK PARKS. 
          AND THAT IS OUR FOOD TRUCK COURTS. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED GLOBALLY. 
          AND THE ZONING, UM, THIS ORDINANCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT SITUATION WHERE IT'S THE PRIMARY USE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. 
          THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THE SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT TO OPERATE A FOOD, UH, FOOD TRUCK ON A ONE-TIME BASIS. 
          AND THEN IT ALSO ADDRESSES SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE, UM, OPERATING YOUR FOOD TRUCK ON A, AT A LOCATION WITHOUT A SPECIAL PERMIT TO OPERATE IT. 
          BUT, UH, PURSUANT TO A CEO THAT'S BEEN ISSUED BY THE PROPERTY TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE FIRST FEW SECTIONS OF THIS, UM, IN SECTIONS W ONE THROUGH SIX, THOSE ARE THE GLOBAL SECTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE SPECIAL, UM, UM, UH, SPECIAL PERMITS. 
          AND ALSO IN SOME OCCASIONS, THE CEO'S SECTION NUMBER SEVEN ADDRESSES THE CONDUCT, 
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ADDRESSES THE SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE OPERATING THE MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION VEHICLE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S BEEN ISSUED TO CEO. 
          AND SO THE TWO ITEMS THAT Y'ALL WERE WANTING TO, UM, DISCUSS FURTHER AND COME TO A FINAL CONCLUSION ON, BASED ON MY REVIEW OF THE, UM, AUDIO FROM LAST MEETING WERE IN SECTION SEVEN CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS WHERE YOU, WHERE IT STATES IN SEC, SUBSECTION E AND THE EVENT, A MOBILE FOOD VEHICLE ELECTS TO PROVIDE ONSITE DINING THAT IS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ONSITE DINING, BUT IF THEY ELECT TO, IT MAY ONLY OPERATE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHEREAS WHERE IT IS WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN OPEN, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PERMANENT RESTROOM FACILITY LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          Y'ALL, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS BOTH THE 500 FEET AND THAT PROVISION IN GENERAL. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SEC. 
          SO SUBSECTION F A MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION VEHICLE MAY NOT OPERATE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE FRONT DOOR OF A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT, EXCEPT WITH WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE OWNER OR MANAGER OF THE RESTAURANT. 
          NOW, KEEP IN MIND, SUBSECTION F DOES NOT APPLY TO THOSE SITUATIONS WITH, UM, WITH, UM, UH, SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. 
          THAT'S JUST FOR THE PERMANENT LOCATION SEMI-PERMANENT TO PERMANENT LOCATIONS. 
          THANK YOU AND COMMITTEE, IF YOU'LL RECALL. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE CONCLUDED AT OUR APRIL MEETING THAT WE WERE GOING TO SEND ANY, WE WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE DISTANCE FROM A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT. 
          WE WERE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT TO THE FULL WORK SESSION COUNCIL AND LET THAT BE OPENLY DISCUSSED. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS A CONTROVERSIAL, UH, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY CONTROVERSIAL THING IN THIS. 
          AND, UM, SO WE CAN HAVE A, UH, DISCUSSION AND, AND HAVE THE WHOLE COUNCIL SPEAK TO THAT SO THAT WE DID NOT WANT THAT TO BE PART THE, THE CONCLUSION LAST TIME WAS WE DID NOT WANT THAT TO BE PART OF THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO, STILL GOOD WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALSO IN E UM, WE DISCUSSED STRIKING THE LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY, UM, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ARE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. UM, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE, WE ARE BUILDING NEW, UH, PUBLIC RESTAURANT RESTROOMS, AND THEY WILL BE, UM, WITHIN REACH OF A NUMBER OF THE BUSINESSES AROUND THERE, INCLUDING THE, UH, THE TRUCK YARD AT FIFTH AVENUE NUTRITION. 
          UM, SO, UH, STRIKING THE NEED FOR IT TO BE ON THE SAME PROPERTY, UH, OPENS THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE TO PUBLIC RESTROOMS THAT ARE OPEN AND AVAILABLE. 
          WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAKING IT, UM, JUST TO BE AS LENIENT AS POSSIBLE, CHANGING IT FROM 500 FEET TO A THOUSAND FEET. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, UH, THE MATRIX, AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN OUR, UM, WE HAD THAT BEFORE THE, THE RESTROOM DISTANCE RANGED FROM 200 FEET TO A THOUSAND FEET, UM, TO, UM, WHERE CONVENIENT, CONVENIENTLY LOCATED, WHICH I SEE NO WAY FOR THAT TO BE ENFORCEABLE. 
          CAUSE THAT IS ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE. 
          SO, SO I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU WITH E DO WE WANT TO ENLARGE THIS TO SAY 100, 1000 FEET INSTEAD OF 500, THAT WOULD KIND OF GO TO THE MOST LENIENT, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT WE SAW IN ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES, ALL OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES HAVE RESTROOM REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO DISTANCE IS A BIG DEAL. 
          SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH STAYING WITH 500 FEET FOR THE RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU WANT TO BUMP IT UP TO A THOUSAND FEET AND JUST LEAVE IT, UH, MORE OPEN EITHER OF YOU HAVE AN OPINION? I LIKE 500 FEET. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THE LANGUAGE TEST. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ARE YOU OKAY WITH STRIKING, LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTIES SO THAT, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND BRIAN, I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE ONLY THINGS WE STILL HAD IN QUESTION PER MY NOTES. 
          SO CAN YOU, UH, CREATE THIS? AND THEN WE WILL, I WILL STRIKE LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY IN SUBSECTION E AND THEN I WILL PUT A BLANK IN SUBSECTION F WHERE THE 200 IS. 
          SO THAT WAY INDICATES THAT COUNCIL DISCUSS HOW MANY FEET THEY WOULD LIKE. 
          UM, WELL, UH, I GOT A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          SO YOU, YOU TO TAKE AWAY ON THE SAME PROPERTY? 
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YES. 
          SO THEY CAN GO ACROSS THE STREET OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          THEY'RE ALL PUBLIC RESTROOMS. LIKE THE INSTANCE I JUST GAVE DOWNTOWN SQUARE, WE'RE BUILDING PUBLIC RESTROOMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SQUARE. 
          SO IF A FOOD TRUCKS ARE LOCATED ON ONE OF THE OTHER BUSINESS PROPERTIES AROUND, AND THE DOWNTOWN RESTROOMS ARE RIGHT THERE, WHERE YOU CAN THROW A ROCK, THEN THAT WOULD MAKE THEM QUALIFY FOR THIS WHERE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND, AND CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT UP, UH, UM, DO WE WANT TO STRIKE F AND JUST, UH, NOT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION COME UP AT ALL? OR DO WE WANT TO LEAVE A BLANK ABOUT X NUMBER OF FEET FROM A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT AND LEAVE THAT OPEN TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT THAT OR ANY RESTRICTION OR JUST, JUST STRIKE IT? SURE. 
          I'D RECOMMEND THAT CITY IS TRYING TO PUT SOME BLANK IN THERE AND LET THE COUNCIL MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          THAT'S I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          WELL, I THINK IF YOU DO THAT, WE WILL BE READY TO, UH, BRING THAT TO A WORK SESSION WHENEVER IT WORKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, SO HERE WE ARE. 
          THESE SPRING 20 ITEM SIX, SPRING, 2022 NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT, APPLICATION, AND COMMITTEE. 
          YOU HAVE A THICK THING HERE. 
          YOU ALSO RECEIVED IT. 
          ALL OF YOU ALL GET A COPY OF THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THE GUESTS. 
          OH, NO. 
          UM, YEAH, HERE, LET ME, MINNIE, WE RECEIVED TWO VERSIONS OF THESE FROM BALLINGER UP CORRECTIVE ONE LATER. 
          LET ME SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BECKY YOU'RE PRESENTING, YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE SCOTT. 
          NO, MA'AM, UH, SCOTT WAS UNEXPECTEDLY UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, SO I WILL DO MY BEST TO, UM, STAND IN FOR HIM. 
          AND I'M LIKE, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HERE. 
          THE WHO CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IF I CAN'T. 
          SO, UM, EACH FALL AND EACH SPRING, THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY TAKES APPLICATIONS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT THIS SPRING, AND IT IS THE RUSTIC OATH, RUSTIC OAK ESTATES, HOA. 
          THEY'RE LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE. 
          WHERE DO YOU SEE THE CIRCLE HERE? THEIR APPLICATION IS FOR POND AND PARK BEAUTIFICATION. 
          THIS IS NOT A CITY PARK. 
          IT IS ON HOA PROPERTY, BUT IT IS A CITY, A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S LOCATED AT 6 1 9 8 SILVER LEAF LANE. 
          YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL UP A MAP HERE, EXCEPT I GOT BLANK PAGES. 
          IS IT NOT LOADING HERE? IT IS. 
          WELL, MAYBE WE'RE DAMN WHEN WE NEED IT. 
          YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT DOING IT SEEMS TO NOT BE ABLE TO LOAD THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. 
          I'LL KEEP TALKING. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          SO THE APPLICATION TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $129,557 AND 68 CENTS. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 97,000 168, 20 6 CENTS. 
          UH, IN GRANT MONEY WITH, UH, THEIR MATCH OF 25% BEING 32,389 AND 42 CENTS. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BOUNDED BY ENGLISH, OAKS AND MULBERRY ON THE NORTH BY RUSTIC GLEN ON THE SOUTH GUTHRIE ROAD ON THE WEST AND LINES ROAD ON THE EAST, 
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JUST SITTING THERE. 
          I WAS RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN THE IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE PARK THERE, IF YOU SEE WHERE THE CREEK AREA IS, THAT IS THE AREA OF THE, UH, SILVER LEAF LANE PARK. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT IS LOCATED ON HOA PROPERTY, NOT A CITY PARK THERE. 
          UM, YOUR PROPOSAL, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND IS TO CREATE A COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT BY BEAUTIFYING THEIR POND AND PARK TO ENHANCE THE LIGHTING, ADD BENCH SEATING, CREATE SAFE, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, TRAILS, AND PICNIC AREAS THAT CAN BE USED BY FAMILIES, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND NEARBY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR NATURE WALKS AND EDUCATIONAL LEARNING, AND TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND THEY NOTE THAT, UM, RESIDENTS IN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES OR ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS USE THE PARK AREA AS WELL. 
          SO IT IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          MAINTENANCE PLAN WOULD INCLUDE, UM, WATER QUALITY ANALYSIS AND WATER TREATMENT ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          LOOKING AT AQUATIC, VEGETATION CONTROL, REMOVAL OF TRASH MONITORING, EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION, UH, LAKE MONITORING WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE LAKE MANAGEMENT SERVICES LP. 
          THEY HAD, DO HAVE A QUOTE FOR THAT, AND THEY HAVE ATTACHED A MAINTENANCE PLAN, AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE HOA COST ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          SOME PICTURES HERE. 
          THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A PARK BENCH SEATING, AS WELL AS SOLAR STREET LIGHTS. 
          AND I'M CLICKING PAST A LOT OF THE, UM, DETAILS THAT THEY GOT IN THEIR QUOTES FROM THE CONSULTANT AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO GET YOU TO THIS, UH, REGARDING THE POND AND THE, UH, DRAINAGE. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS A CLOSE IN VIEW. 
          YOU CAN SEE HERE AT THE CORNER OF GUTHRIE AND SILVER LEAF WHERE THE POND IS LOCATED. 
          AND THEN IF YOU KIND OF FOLLOW UP, UM, NORTH OF THERE, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A STREAM. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, ALL OF THE HOA AREA HOA AREA IS LOCATED IN CITY DRAINAGE EASEMENT. 
          IT IS A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN REGULATED BY THE CITY, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE FEMA FLOOD, PLAIN MAPS. 
          UH, THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN TERMINATES JUST SOUTH OF GUTHRIE ROAD. 
          THE, UM, COMPANY THAT LOOKED AT THE POND AND PROPOSED, UM, SOLUTIONS IS RECOMMENDING EXCAVATION TO COMMUTE, REMOVE ACCUMULATED SEDIMENTS FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE RETENTION STRUCTURE, AND TO RELOCATE THIS MATERIAL TO A LOW LYING AREA, TO REGRADE, IMPROVING DRAINAGE AND REDUCE STANDING AREAS OF WATER. 
          SO ON THIS IMAGE, YOU SEE THE CIRCULAR WHITE CIRCULAR AREA THAT WOULD BE WHERE THEY DO THE DREDGING AND THE YELLOW AREA IS WHERE THEY WOULD, UM, TAKE THAT SEALED, UM, AS INFILL. 
          AND THEN ALSO ON, UH, JUST NORTH OF THERE AT THIS CIRCULAR SPOT IS WHERE THEY WOULD PROPOSE TO DREDGE AND CREATE, UM, BASICALLY A SEDIMENT BASEMENT BASIN TO COLLECT SEDIMENT AS IT COMES DOWNSTREAM BEFORE IT REACHES THE POND. 
          AND THEN THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS WHERE THEY WOULD, UM, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EROSION CONTROL OF THE CHANNEL, UM, WITH, UH, SOME SORT OF BANK STABILIZATION SOLUTION THAT IS, UM, THE EXTENT OF THEIR REQUEST. 
          AND THEN I WILL GO BACK THROUGH REAL QUICKLY AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF STAFF'S COMMENTS. 
          UM, IN THE INITIAL LETTER OF INTENT, IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, BUILDING INSPECTION AND ENGINEERING. 
          I'LL GO BACK UP TO THOSE. 
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UM, IT WAS NOTED THAT THIS ORIGINALLY INCLUDED SOME RESORTING. 
          IT WAS NOTED THAT VEGETATION'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE APPLICANT HAS REMOVED THAT REQUEST. 
          UM, HARDSCAPING IS ELIGIBLE AND OTHER ELEMENTS AS DESCRIBED IN THE APPLICATION ARE ELIGIBLE AND AS REQUESTED, THE HOA HAS PROVIDED A MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          UM, BUILDING INSPECTION ADDRESSED PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          ENGINEERING HAS ALSO ADDRESSED SOME PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN SHALL ADHERE TO ALL CRITERIA AND THE CITY'S FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE, AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AROUND THE POND MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. 
          ANY PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS EASEMENT WOULD REQUIRE A REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT, AUTHORIZATION BE EXECUTED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN I BELIEVE, UH, KEY POINT WAS, UM, AND THEY DID RESPOND TO, THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE REMOVAL AND DREDGING OF THE SILT IN THE POND. 
          AND THEN, UM, DURING THE APPLICATION PHASE, THEY ADDRESSED THOSE COMMENTS. 
          SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, A LICENSE AGREEMENT WILL BE REQUIRED ALLOWING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE ACCESSED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITHIN REASONABLE OPERATING HOURS. 
          UM, AND ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO HIT THERE. 
          AND THEN ALSO ENGINEERING, UM, NOTED IN, AGAIN, THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT OR, UM, THE NEED TO REVIEW THE PLANS. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT IS A SUMMARY AS BEST AS I CAN GIVE IT WITH NO NOTICE OF THE APPLICATION. 
          AND I GUESS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNSEL FOR QUESTIONS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          PAGE FIVE, ONE TO FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SAYS RUSTIC OAK ESTATE, HOA GARLAND, AND THEN UNDERNEATH IT SAYS 24 25 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, SUITE 500 RICHARDSON, TEXAS. 
          CAN YOU, UH, TELL ME WHAT THAT IS? MY GUESS IS THAT'S THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WITH CLARITIN PAPS, MADAM SHERIFF, OR I GUESS MAY MAYBE CLARIFY THIS. 
          I WENT TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE, YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLIC ACCESS DOING OPERATING HOURS. 
          YOU SAY HOA GOOD WITH THAT. 
          I'M SEEING NODS OF YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, ONE OF YOU WOULD REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, YOU GET, YOU GET, YOU CAN ANSWER WHAT'S THE RATE BY SECOND, UM, UH, AND DO PROJECT SUMMARY RIGHT BEHIND THE LETTER OF INTENT. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT THE BARRIER AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE LANGUAGE FROM BI. 
          IT SAYS, UH, WHAT PAGE? IT SHOULD, I DON'T KNOW THE PAGE, BUT IT'S RIGHT BEHIND. 
          IT'S BEHIND, UM, SOURCES, PROJECT SUMMARY FOR LETTERS OF INTENT. 
          IT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          THERE ARE NO NUMBERS ON MY PAGE. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M CHAIR. 
          IT'S ABOUT, UH, IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE LETTER. 
          THEY WROTE VITALITY AND SAYS PROJECT SUMMARY FOR LETTERS OF INTENT. 
          IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE NUMBERS PAGE. 
          THERE'S A LETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT TO REMEMBER CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, WE'RE TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, BILL BE OUT IS NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR POND, BUT IF THE PO, BUT IF THE POND WAIT A MINUTE TO TWO YEARS, BUT IF THE POND IS DOING JUST SOME MORE IN DEPTH, BUILDING INSPECTION MAY REQUIRE A BARRIER AROUND IT. 
          SIMILAR TO A SWIMMING POOL, THE BARRIER MUST BE AT LEAST FOUR FEET TALL. 
          ALONG WITH OTHER GUIDELINES, THIS FENCE WOULD BE, WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT IF REQUIRED. 
          BECKY, MY QUESTION IS, IS A BARRIER REQUIRED OR IS IT VOLUNTARILY? CAN SOMEONE ADDRESS THAT FOR ME? THIS IS WATER. 
          IF IT'S TWO FEET OR DEEPER, THAT THAT 
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IS, THAT IS ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS. 
          I KNOW THAT IT'S MICHAEL, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, OH, CODEPENDENCY. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN SOMEONE ADDRESS THAT FOR ME? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE MEASUREMENTS ON THE WEATHER. 
          I'M ASSUMING THIS POND IS DEEPER THAN TWO FEET. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT IF SO SWIMMING POOLS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR SWIMMING THOUGH. 
          IT'S NOT A POOL. 
          SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S A WATER QUALITY POND. 
          IT'S A VISUAL AMENITY, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR SWIMMING AND OTHER THINGS. 
          SO NO, THERE'S NO BARRIER REQUIRED. 
          IT'S NOT A POOL. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS? IT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S DREDGED HOW DEEP IT WILL BE. 
          I THINK IT WILL VARY OVER TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          I HEARD THE VOICE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM TWO TO FOUR PEOPLE FEED AT THIS POINT IN TIME PRIOR TO THE DREDGING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF IT'S STILL AT A FOUR, THEN THAT REQUIRES A BARRIER ACCORDING TO THIS LANGUAGE, AM I CORRECT? I CAN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I, IT, FOR A LONG TIME, IT SAYS, IT SAYS IF THE PUNISHED TWO FEET OR MORE IN DEPTH, AND SHE'S SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DREDGING THERE'S TWO BEFORE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A QUESTION. 
          THERE'S A QUESTION. 
          I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE AS IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          LET ME LOOK FOR AN ANSWER REAL QUICK, BUT I THINK THE ANSWER IS, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NO, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. 
          I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, UH, WHAT I, I'M NOT SURE WHO MADE THAT COMMENT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, SO, OKAY. 
          AND IF, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET THAT BACK BACK TO ME IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DAY, BUT THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO, TO KNOW THAT. 
          AND IF THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION THEN WOULD LEAD TO THE REQUIREMENT. 
          SO WAIT, CERTAIN THE ANSWER. 
          NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. 
          IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER, BUT NO, NOT REQUIRED. 
          I AGREE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY REQUIREMENT OF THAT AROUND PONDS. 
          IT'S NOT A SWIMMING POOL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, I'M JUST READING THIS LANGUAGE HERE. 
          AND, UM, I'M STILL CONFUSED WITH THE LANGUAGE AND IT SAYS, AND I KNOW IT'S PON AND, AND IS THE LANGUAGE, THIS GOVERNMENT LANGUAGE YET. 
          SO, BUT MY, MY CONCERN THERE IS, AND I KNOW THIS IS MY, MY CONCERN. 
          THERE IS SAFETY AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT THIS. 
          AND, AND IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IT REQUIRED, BUT IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF THE DREDGING, IF IT MAKES IT, AND I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION OF OUR GUESTS, IF MY, IF IT ENDS UP BEING FOUR OR FIVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER FOR SAFETY REASONS SO THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE REQUEST COUNSEL, I'M NOT MAKING THE REQUEST OF EVEN EVEN ASKING IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW OR BY LOCAL ORDINANCE. 
          UM, UM, FRANKLY THERE'S PONDS ALL OVER THE CITY, INCLUDING YOUR OWN BY THE CITY THAT UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONG THEN. 
          I MIGHT JUST, I'M JUST READING IN LANGUAGE FROM THE DOCUMENT AND THE LANGUAGE FROM DOCUMENT WAS CONFUSING. 
          IT WAS CONFUSING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'LL LET THAT REST FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. VERA. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY SAY THAT AND THIS HARD PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COME OVER. 
          WAIT. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THEY COME IN WITH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SPEAKING TO MICROPHONE CALLS. 
          COME ON, COME UP HERE TO THE FRONT OVER THERE, MAN. 
          OKAY. 
          I MAY WARN YOU. 
          I SOUND LIKE YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, SIR. 
          AND MY NAME IS TOMMY. 
          SABATA. 
          WHAT WE MEANT BY THAT IS WE HAD PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER DISTRICTS, THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COME OVER THERE, THEY WALK OVER WITH THEIR KIDS. 
          THEY WALK OVER WITH THEIR PETS. 
          THEY WALK OVER WITH THEIR MOTHERS. 
          THEY COME FISHING IN THE POND. 
          THE FISH AIN'T THAT BIG, BUT THEY COULD, THEY LIKE FISHING THERE. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COME VISIT US. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
          BUT WHAT IF, UH, PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS STARTED COMING THERE? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO S WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM UP TO NOW, NEVER ANY PROBLEM. 
          AND IF IT HAPPENS, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT WE WELCOME PEOPLE FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IF YOU GET PEOPLE TO COME THERE FROM OTHER PLACES 
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OUTSIDE THE AREA. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS. 
          EVEN AT OUR ANNUAL PICNICS. 
          YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME OVER, THEY'RE HUNGRY. 
          WE HAVE THE FOOD, WE'LL FEED THEM. 
          I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY. 
          GARLAND. 
          IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEFT TO BOND. 
          THE MORE, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE MORE YOU MINIMIZED THE BURGLARIES IN THE AREA, HE GET TO KNOW THE FACES, THE CARS, THE DOG, THE PETS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE HAVE NO PROBLEM. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER PARK THAT STARTED THAT WAY. 
          AND THEN JADA HAND. 
          NOW THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, I GUESS I CAME FROM ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN HOUSTON, TEXAS. 
          I KNOW HIM WELL AT THIS POINT, W W IT'S OPEN TO ANYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          I DO, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT READING ON THAT, ON THAT, UM, RIGHT DOWN FROM WHERE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ABOUT A POND, UM, IT SAYS BASED ON THE CITY'S FEEDBACK WE MET WITH DIFFERENT POND PROFESSIONALS. 
          ANYWAY, IT GOES ON TO SAY WE ELIMINATED ITEMS THAT WERE DEEMED NOT ELIGIBLE. 
          AND I'M ASSUMING THAT INCLUDES SOD. 
          WAS THERE SOMETHING BESIDES SOD? THAT WAS THE GAZEBO. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SOD AND GAZEBO. 
          WAS THERE ANYTHING BESIDES THOSE TWO AND CAROL KIND UP AND TALK AS WELL? YEAH. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE MIKES THERE. 
          SO YOU CAN PULL THAT ONE DOWN AND PULL THAT ONE OVER AND TELL, TELL YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS CAROL SONNENBERG. 
          I'M THE ACTUAL ONE THAT WROTE THE GRANT. 
          SO WE INITIALLY HAD GAZEBO IN THERE. 
          THE, WHEN WE MET WITH PAWN MEDICS, THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING SOY GRASS AS A PART OF THE EMBANKMENT PROCESS. 
          ONCE THE EXCAVATION PROCESS WAS DONE, AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND WE REALIZED THE COST INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          AND SO WE KIND OF THOUGHT, WELL, THAT MIGHT BE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          LET'S NOT GO FULL THROTTLE ON THAT. 
          WE'LL GO BACK AND DO THAT LATER. 
          AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AFTER WE FOUND OUT THAT THE LANDSCAPING WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE DETERMINED TO TAKE IT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT ALSO SAYS ROCK RETAINING WALLS WERE ELIMINATED. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD IN PHASE TWO. 
          AND THEN WE DECIDED TO JUST FOCUS ON THE POND, MAINLY ON THE POND, THE POND IN PHASE ONE, IT WAS NEVER IN PHASE TWO. 
          SO APPARENTLY THE, EITHER WAY IT WAS MISINTERPRETED OR WE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB INITIALLY PRESENTING THE GRANT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S THE DEAL. 
          UM, WE, WE SEE A LOT OF THESE, UM, I FOUND THIS VERY GOOD FUSING. 
          I KEPT GOING THROUGH IT CAUSE IT HAS, IT HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE REPEATED, BUT ALSO THINGS. 
          UM, SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY WANTING NOW. 
          YOU'RE CALLING PHASE ONE. 
          WELL, WE HAVE TWO PHASES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHEN WE MOVED IN THE POND WAS QUITE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE WITH A FOUNTAIN AND IT WAS SUCH A DRAW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYBODY RAVED ABOUT THAT POND. 
          AND SO OUR MAIN GOAL HERE IS TO BRING THAT POND BACK TO WAY WAY IT WAS WHEN EVERYONE MOVED IN AND IT IS A REAL HOT BUTTON TO EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE. 
          AND IT CONTINUALLY COMES UP WITH EVERY MEETING AND EVERY PICNIC AND EVERYTHING WE ALWAYS DO. 
          LET'S REFURBISH THE POND, LET'S GET THE POND BACK THE WAY IT WAS WHEN WE MOVED HERE. 
          SO THAT IS OUR MAIN GOAL. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE IS NOT ONLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS LOVE THIS POND AND LIKE TO COME AND ENJOY IT. 
          AND IT'S BEEN SUCH A DRAW FOR EVERYONE OUT, EVEN OUTSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO REALLY ENJOY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS WHY IT MEANS SO MUCH TO US. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO FOCUS IN THIS, BE THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS GRANT. 
          SO IS IT THE MAIN, SO, UM, I'M SEEING PARK BENCHES. 
          I'M SEEING LIGHTS. 
          ARE THESE THINGS ALSO REMOVED OR NO? NO. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT WILL, WILL ENHANCE THE POND BECAUSE IN OUR AREA IT'S DARK IN THIS POND AREA. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT LIT AT NIGHT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AT NIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS DURING THE DAY. 
          BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE ENJOY IT AT NIGHT. 
          WE'VE WE HAVE BUILT A GAZEBO AREA THERE FOR PICNICS AND THINGS, BUT WE NEED MORE BENCH. 
          WE NEED MORE BENCHING, MORE SEATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO PUT SOME SEATING AROUND IN DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE OTHER PEOPLE COULD SIT AS THEY WALK THEIR DOGS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THE BENCHING AND THE LIGHTING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO THE, THE SUM TOTAL OF WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR, WITH THIS GRANT, WHICH NO LONGER INCLUDES THE GAZEBO, IT NO LONGER INCLUDES SOD AND IT NO LONGER RE INCLUDES ROCK RETAINING WALLS. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE THINGS HAD BEEN REMOVED, BUT THIS ACTUAL REQUEST, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR INCLUDES, UM, IT SAYS PARK IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE IMPROVING THE POND AND ADDING SEATING IN LIGHTS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SAFETY, SOLAR LED LIGHTING. 
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THAT'S YOUR LIGHTING BENCH SEATING POND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE, THE BUDGET PAGE THERE WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ADDED OH YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT PAGE, THIS IS REALLY LONGER THAN WE USUALLY GET AND REPEATS A LOT OF THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO GO OVER, UM, BUDGET PAGE IN THERE THAT BREAKS ALL THE EXPENSES DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          LINE-BY-LINE GIVE ME A SECOND. 
          UM, LIKE MANAGEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SURVEY ENGINEERING SUBMITTAL. 
          LET'S SEE IF THIS IS IT. 
          NOPE. 
          IT'S FOR ONE THING. 
          UH, EROSION PREVENTION MATERIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHERE IT SAYS, UM, BUT IT INCLUDES TURF REINFORCEMENT MAT, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE SCOPE OF WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          PUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST GOT THERE. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          PALM, MEDICS PARK, BENCHES INSTALLATION LIGHTS POLE. 
          THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO YOUR NUMBER. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL COMMITTEE THAT, AND THAT WAS, UH, JUST A FEW, LET'S SEE. 
          THIRD PAGE FROM THE BACK. 
          IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THE SAME THING AND IT'S HEADED RUSTIC OAKS, HOA POND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT THAT HAS A SUMMARY AND IT BREAKS OUT THE COSTING FOR EACH OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING. 
          NO, JUST SAY, UM, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND HAVING REMOVED THE THINGS THAT ARE INELIGIBLE, UM, AND BREAKING IT DOWN WITH THESE THINGS THAT ARE RESTORING THE POND TO IT'S, UH, HOPEFULLY PREVIOUS BEAUTY AND IMPROVING SEATING AND LIGHTING AROUND IT. 
          UM, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT, BUT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, THAT PROBLEMS TO MOUTH. 
          UM, ANYWAY, UM, OBJECTION, BUT MICHAEL, AND THEN I'M RE THAT'S A VERY LONG SENTENCES IN THIS PACKAGE THAT I'M AT ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT'S HIS ENGINEERING, MICHAEL IT'S THAT LED PAGE, UH, WAS IT PROJECT SUMMARY FOR LETTERS OF INTENT AND THERE'S NO NUMBER ON MY PAGE. 
          SORRY. 
          I COULD YOU SEE WHERE THAT OKAY. 
          YOU SEE IT WAS AN ENGINEERING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MICHAEL, ABOUT A 1, 2, 3, 4 FIFTH BULLET. 
          WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THIS SAY? ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AROUND THE POND MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, ANY PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS EASEMENT SHOULD BE, WOULD WE REQUIRE A REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT? UH, IT'S LIKE A LICENSE. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A LICENSE AGREEMENT WHERE WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO PUT SOMETHING INSIDE OUR EASEMENT. 
          WE'RE GIVING THEM RIGHTS TO THE EASEMENT. 
          SO THAT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS THERE THERE'S LICENSE AGREEMENTS FOR RIGHT. 
          OF WHAT RIGHTS OF WAY. 
          AND FOR EASEMENTS, WE HAVE THESE REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          SO, SO THAT'S BASICALLY LIKE PERMITTING THEM TO PUT THE FOOT THERE'S DEF. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WILL JUST ADD THAT ON THIS, UM, PROJECT SUMMARY, IT STILL INCLUDES INSTALLS THE WAY IS ALWAYS A SO I SHOULD GRASS. 
          YES. 
          THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE GRANT, IT WAS MARCH 23RD. 
          THEY GAVE US AN ADDITIONAL WEEK. 
          SO THAT BUDGET WAS TURNED IN ON THAT DATE. 
          AND THEN AFTER WE GOT THE CITY'S COMMENTS, THAT'S WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGES. 
          SO THERE WAS A LITTLE DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN THIS, IN THIS PRICE SUMMARY, THE GRAPH IS NOT, YEAH, THAT WAS AN OPTIONAL THING. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE POND MEDICS THING, IT'S BROKEN DOWN TO OPTIONAL ON THAT BACK PAGE. 
          SO THEY SAID, THESE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN, OR YOU MAY NOT ELECT TO DO. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHEN WE MADE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AFTER THE FACT, SO, OKAY. 
          I HEARD A BEEP. 
          IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BJ, DID YOU OKAY. 
          WELL, I'M JUST, NOW I'M JUST HEARING PEOPLE. 
          I HEARD IT TOO. 
          DON'T TOUCH BUTTONS. 
          ANYBODY EITHER OF YOU, ANY OF YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M STARTING TO HEAR THINGS. 
          UM, I HEARD IT TOO. 
          HEY. 
          YEAH, WE STILL GOT A WHOLE NIGHT TO GO THROUGH. 
          SO, UH, SO COMMITTEE, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS? I'M I'M READY TO UNDER THE, 
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IT IS LONG AND IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR, YOU KNOW, I AM REALLY, IF IT WEREN'T TIME-WASTING, I WOULD, I WOULD BE VERY TEMPTED TO SAY, COULD YOU ALL TAKE THIS BACK AND JUST STREAMLINE IT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO REALLY DO THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING TO HAVE THE APPLICATION IN, BUT HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO CHANGE THE APPLICATION. 
          SO HE SAID, LET'S WORK THROUGH IT AND WE'LL MAKE CHANGES AND WE'LL PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER. 
          MAYBE MY, MY INSTINCT ON THIS WOULD BE TO SAY, HOLD THE VOTE ON THIS, LET THEM STREAMLINE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL. 
          AND IF WE BRING THIS TO COUNCIL, IT WILL BE FUSSY. 
          TYPICALLY IF THE COMMITTEE APPROVES, IT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, IT GOES AS A WRITTEN BRIEFING. 
          IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, OR IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH IT, IT WOULD GO AS A VERBAL BRIEFING. 
          I REALIZE THAT, BUT AS A WRITTEN BRIEFING FOR ANY OF US WHO HOPEFULLY ALL OF US WHO ACTUALLY READ THIS, I READ THIS THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND WAS STILL LEFT, CONFUSED BY IT. 
          AND I AM A PROFESSIONAL READER. 
          SO I WOULD, IF, IF THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A HUGE TIME DISRUPTER, YES. 
          COULD STAFF WORK JUST TO SUMMARIZE THAT OR SHORTEN THAT IN THE WRITTEN BRIEFING? WOULD THAT BE, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT MR. CITY ATTORNEY WITH US SAYING, GO WITH IT AND LET THEM SHORTEN IT? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. 
          LET'S DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE GOOD WITH, UH, PROVING IT, LETTING STAFF, UH, SHRINK IT DOWN? WE WILL MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WORKS FOR ME. 
          WE WERE WANTING TO SHORTEN IT SO HE CAN PASS MUSTER. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT THE BOOK, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I HAVE TO READ THIS TWICE AND THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. 
          CAUSE I HONESTLY, I, I STRUGGLED OVER AND WENT, WAIT, HEY, WHAT? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL SAY ONE MORE THING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I WANT TO, I'M GRATEFUL TO MICHAEL. 
          I KNOW HOW SHORT STAFF IS. 
          I HEAR MY SOURCES TELL ME HE WAS IMPECCABLE GETTING BACK WITH BEN. 
          SO WISCONSIN, AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE FOR YOUR TIME, WE WORK REAL HARD AT THIS. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND BECKY WORKED ON IT. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK, YOU NEED TO SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE WORKED WITH THAT. 
          I HAVE THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HIA, UM, THIS GENTLEMAN AND, UH, SHE, SHE GAVE YOU A NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          UM, SORRY. 
          ADDRESS. 
          YEAH, THE ADDRESS IS ABOUT, UM, UH  UM, GRANT SUBMISSION. 
          NO, YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS ADDRESS MY ADDRESS, THE HOME ADDRESS, SORRY, 4 1 2, 2 38, 18 ENGLISH ORG. 
          THAT'S THAT? HOW'S THAT. 
          AND UM, THIS LADY, UM, CAROL AND, UH, THERE'S MAN, UH, TOMMY WERE HARD AND, UH, MANY OF THE CITY STAFF, THEY HELPED GET IN CONNECTION WITH, UH, SCOTT. 
          UM, AND, UM, I WAS HERE FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION, HEARING THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. 
          AND ALSO THANK YOU OR FOR APPROVING EVEN THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OUR SIDEWALK STUFF. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE, THEY SAID I HAD WHEN I WAS SIGNING FOR, TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT FLEE. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, ESPECIALLY I APPRECIATE JUDSON WHO GAVE ME A CONNECTION WITH THE, UH, SCHOLAR. 
          THANK YOU, DEBRA. 
          THANK YOU, BJ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT WHY DID YOU SAY YOU THINK GARLAND GATLIN DISTRICT TODAY? THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED THE DEALERSHIP. 
          GATLIN, YOU KNOW, THE GORGEOUS GARLAND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT MY COURT, THIS IS PART OF THIS LOOK, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, COMMITTEE. 
          UM, WE ARE TO ITEM SEVEN ADJOURNING. 
          AND SO THE MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED AS OF 5:49 PM.
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