* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Plan Commission Pre Meeting] [00:00:07] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JUNE 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF OUR MEETING. AND AFTERWARDS THROUGH WITH OUR WORK SESSION, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. ALRIGHTY, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? NOPE. OKAY. UM, THE FIRST ZONING ITEM IS Z 22 DASH 16, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH 238 UNITS. AND THIS IS FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE PD 19 DASH 22 AND COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.54 ACRES. THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES THAT LINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR. AS YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THIS IS ZONE FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL, AND THE OTHER PORTION IS ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 19 DASH 22, 4 COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OR ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL AND PD 1922. AND THE PORTION THAT IS ZONED PD 1922, UM, IS DEVELOPED WITH, UM, THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED TRAVEL CENTER, QUICK TRIP TRAVEL CENTER, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EASTERN ZONE, LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. THERE WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX EXISTING, AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ACROSS BOB TOWN ROAD ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, SEVEN, A WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND PD 95 DASH 58. THERE IS A LANDSCAPING COMPANY, UM, A CHURCH AND A CARWASH AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONE PD 1922. AND A PORTION OF IT IS DEVELOPED WITH THE QUICK TRIP TRAVEL CENTER, THE FEATURE LANDYS MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS BUSINESS CENTER. ALTHOUGH THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE BUSINESS CENTERS DESCRIPTION, THIS MULTIFAMILY USE WILL EXPAND THE HOUSING STOCK AND FURTHER SUPPORT RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON ADJACENT AND NEARBY PROPERTIES. THE CORRIDOR CA CATALYST AREA PLAN SITES, THE AGING HOUSING STOCK, PARTICULARLY IN THE CORRIDOR. ALTHOUGH THE STUDY WAS CREATED PRIOR TO THE RECENT UPTREND AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, ADDITIONAL NEW HOUSING WILL ONLY EXPAND HOUSING CHOICES AND FURTHER REDUCE THE AVERAGE PROPERTY AGE. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE TOP RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THOSE ARE THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PRECAST GREENING WALL AND A PORTION OF THAT, UM, TRAVEL CENTER HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THREE BUILDINGS, TOTAL THREE BUILDINGS, AND A TOTAL OF 238 UNITS. AND THE PRIMARY ACCESS WILL BE FROM BOB TOWN ROAD. AND THERE IS A SECONDARY ACCESS TO THE NORTH THROUGH MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT AND THAT'S FOR RESIDENT AND, UM, EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY. AND THE SITE DOES COMPLY WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE ARE PROPOSING THE SWIMMING POOL CLUBHOUSE, WHICH IS IN THE COURTYARD. UM, AND THEN SOME LEISURE AREAS HERE. THERE'S ALSO A ROOFTOP AMENITY THAT'S PROPOSED AT THIS APPROXIMATE LOCATION AND THE SITE ALSO COMPLIES WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. UM, THE JR OF THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION ON THE CARPORT. AND I'LL GO OVER THAT IN JUST A MOMENT HERE, C PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND THE GDC REQUIRES 40% OF THE TOTAL SITE TO BE LANDSCAPE FOR A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS 34%. AND SO THAT IS A DEVIATION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, AND THIS PLAN SHOWS ACTIVE OPEN SPACES, INCLUDING THE MAIN COURTYARD AND TWO ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACES. AND ALTHOUGH SCREENING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT [00:05:01] PROPOSES A SIX FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY AND TO THE EAST, UM, IS A SIX FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE PROPOSED. AND THERE IS AN EXISTING PRECAST SCREENING WALL, EIGHT FOOT THAT'S, UM, ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. AND THIS IS THE ELEVATION FOR BUILDING A, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS. IT'S ALSO PART OF BUILDING A, THIS IS PART OF BUILDING B. THIS IS BUILDING C HERE'S THE LIST OF DEVIATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOUR CAR PORT AND THE GDC DOES NOT ALLOW, UH, CAR PORTS TO BE WITHIN ANY BUILDING SETBACK. AND THE SITE PLAN REFLECTS THE CARPORTS, PARTICULARLY LOCATED TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY TO ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SETBACKS AND ALLOWING CAR PORTS IN THE SETBACK WHERE THERE IS PERIMETER PARKING, UH, WILL ALLOW THE PROJECT TO COMPLY WITH THE COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT WHILE AVOIDING PLACING CAR PORTS, WHERE THEY DISRUPT AESTHETICS OR INTERFERE WITH OTHER SITE ELEMENTS. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER DEVIATION FOR THE CARPORT. UM, DID GDC REQUIRES ALL DETACHED PARKING STRUCTURES TO BE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE BUILDING SERVED AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A DEVIATION TO ALLOW 62 OF THE REQUIRED 200 COVERED PARKING SPACES TO BE GREATER THAN 100 FEET FROM A LIVING UNIT. AND THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THE EXISTING UTILITY EASEMENTS PRECLUDE PLACEMENT OF THE DETACHED CARPORT SPACES, BUT THEN A HUNDRED FEET. THE SECOND DEVIATION IS ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND THE GDC ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 40 FEET AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 53 FEET. THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE FOUR STORY DEVELOPMENT AND TALLER CEILING HEIGHTS DESIRED BY THE PERSPECTIVE RESIDENTS. THE NEXT DEVIATION IS ON THE MINIMUM DWELLING SIZE, UM, REQUIRED FOR A ONE BEDROOM UNIT. AND THE GDC REQUIRES MINIMUM 6,650 FEET AND PROPOSE A 627 SQUARE FEET. AND TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FROM SIX 50 TO 2 627 SQUARE FEET FOR A MAXIMUM OF 62 OF THE 155 TOTAL ONE BEDROOM UNITS REDUCING THE FLOOR AREA FOR NO GREATER THAN 40% OF ONE BEDROOM UNITS WILL ALLOW A GREATER RANGE OF RESIDENTIAL UNIT SIZES AND PRICE POINTS TO BEST ALIGN WITH THE MARKET DEMAND. THE NEXT DEVIATION IS ON DENSITY AND A MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 18 DUAL UNITS PER ACRE. AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 32. THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THIS DEVIATION IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY BUILDING MATERIALS, TUCK UNDER GARAGES AND OTHER SITE AMENITIES AND FURNISHINGS. AND THE NEXT DEVIATION IS ON LANDSCAPING. THE GDC REQUIRES 40% OF THE SITE TO BE LANDSCAPE AND PROPOSED IS 34% BESIDES A WELL LANDSCAPED FRONT YARD AND MUSE ENTRY. THE DEVELOPMENT OFFERS ACTIVE OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING A MAIN COURTYARD AND TWO ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACES THAT WILL BE PROGRAMMED AS AN ONSITE RESIDENTIAL AMENITY. AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE ROOFTOP LEISURE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PD 1922 AND COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE SENT OUT 48 NOTIFICATION AND TWO OF THEM WERE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST. ONE WAS WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF THREE RESPONSES. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ROSE. AND WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THAT CONCRETE WALL ON THE WEST SIDE? THAT'S EXISTING? IS IT IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT A LITTLE BIT? THAT'S NEWLY CONSTRUCTED. OH, IT'S NEWLY QUICK TRIP. OH, OKAY. THANKS. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. WHAT A MAN SEES ON THE ROOF, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, SOME FURNITURES OF LEAVES THERE, SOME SEATING AREAS, OR IS A FIREPLACE, UM, AND THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON, UM, THE OTHER AMENITIES OF PROPOSED THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AS A FOLLOWUP AND I FORGOT TO LOOK, WOULD THIS BE ON ALL OF THE ROASTS, EVEN THE ONES KIND OF LOOKING OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WOULD THIS BE MORE IN THE INTERIOR BUILDINGS OR IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? [00:10:02] SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION AGAIN? WOULD THE ROOFTOP AMENITIES BE OVERLOOKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR WOULD THEY BE ANOTHER BUILDINGS OVERLOOKING THE COMMERCIAL AND, OR THE INTERIOR BUILDING? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE UNITS THAT ARE ONE BEDROOM UNITS THAT ARE SMALLER THAN THE PRESCRIBED, THOSE ARE ONE BEDROOMS, NET EFFICIENCIES, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD EFFICIENCIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. NEXT GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. PULL UP MY PRESENTATION HERE. OKAY. SO CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A PROPOSAL OF A, FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT IS AN SUP FOR CONVENIENT STORE, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN THE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH HAS COMMUNITY OFFICE. AND IT IS FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE. ONLY NO GAS PUMPS ARE BEING PROPOSED. UM, AS PART OF THIS, SUP THE LOCATION IS 4 29 EAST. THE, UM, OVERALL PROPERTY OF THIS, UH, MULTI-TENANT BUILDING IS ABOUT 3.7 ACRES. HOWEVER, THE, UM, SUP, UH, REQUEST AT HAND IS, UM, LIMITED TO, UH, APPROXIMATELY 2,400 SQUARE FOOT LEASE AREA WITHIN A MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING. UH, AGAIN, THE, UH, CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT IS COMMUNITY OFFICE, WHICH REQUIRES AN SUP FOR CONVENIENT STORES. HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ALONG INTERSTATE 30 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY SHOWN HERE. THIS ARIEL IS A BIT OUTDATED, BUT THERE IS A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, UM, BUILDING IT'S STILL IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. BUT, UM, THE BUILDING IS LOCATED WITHIN HERE. UM, IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, I'LL SHOW MORE SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE COMMUTE STORE WILL BE LOCATED, UH, BUT TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, UH, TO THE EAST ACROSS ROWING ROAD IS, UM, ANOTHER EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS. I BELIEVE IT'S A SEVEN 11 TO THE NORTH OF THAT AS A JACK IN THE BOX RESTAURANT IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, UM, UH, IS A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND FURTHER TO THE WEST IS ONE AS WELL IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT. HOWEVER, THERE IS AN ACTIVE, UM, UH, ZONING, SOME MIDDLE INTERVIEW FOR A HOTEL USE, AND THERE'S AN EXISTING HOTEL LAKITA HOTEL FURTHER TO THE WEST. AND THEN, UH, IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM TO THE SOUTH IS ANOTHER, UM, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS AND A VARIETY OF OTHER COMMERCIAL USES NEAR THAT THE, UH, CONFERENCE OF PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS A BUSINESS BUSINESS CENTERS. AND THIS, UH, USE IS, UM, UH, STAFF FINDS THIS USE APPROPRIATE AT THE SITE, AND IT IS SUPPORTIVE TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOWN ON THE TOP LEFT HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING HOTEL FURTHER TO THE WEST APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH. AND, UM, LOOKING TO THE EAST, THERE'S A JACK IN THE BOX, AS WELL AS A SEVEN 11 OVER THERE, AND A FREESTANDING BUILDING THAT THIS, UM, UH, DEVELOPER HAS CONSTRUCTED. IT'S STILL VACANT, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT, UM, IT HAS BUILT, UM, HERE IS THE BUILDING AND, UM, CIRCLED HERE IS, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED CONVENIENT STORE TENANT. AND HERE'S A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS KIND OF WHERE IT IS IN RELATION TO THE OTHER TENANT SPACES OUTLINED IN RED HERE, AND THE APPLICANT. AGAIN, IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE. ONLY NO GAS PUMPS ARE PROPOSED. AND ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, SALES WILL INCLUDE VARIOUS SNACKS, COLD FOOD ITEMS, AS WELL AS DRINKS, HOT FOOD WILL ALSO BE SERVED WITH NO SITTING AREA TO BE PROVIDED AND NO ACTIVITIES AT THIS LOCATION WILL SUPPORT CONGREGATION AT THE SITE. AND SEP TIME PERIOD OF 25 YEARS IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AND A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. AND WE MAILED OUT, UM, 25 NOTIFICATION LETTERS FOR THIS CASE, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. AND SIR, UM, I THINK LOGISTICALLY IF I'M THE, THE LAYOUT, THIS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE, BUT I WOULDN'T GO AHEAD AND ASK THE QUESTION ANYWAY. THERE'S NO DRIVE UP OUR DRIVE THROUGH OPTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR, IS THERE IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH OR SOMETHING AGAIN BEFORE YOUR ILLUSTRATION? I, I, UM, THAT WAS MY VISUAL QUESTION. I GUESS IT'D BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT [00:15:01] WOULD BE PRETTY TOUGH. YOU'VE GOT OTHER TENANTS IN THERE AND SOME PARKING AND, UM, IT'D BE QUITE A SITE PLANNER VISION. OH, THE 25 YEAR REQUESTS. THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE GUIDE, UH, THE SUP GUIDELINES. SO ACTUALLY THE GUIDE WAS BASED ON USES, UM, THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE CONVENIENCE STORE WAS JUST HAPPENED TO BE A USE, UM, THAT HAD GONE THROUGH THE SEP PROCESS WITHIN THE LAST 5, 6, 7 YEARS, THE SAMPLE THAT WE CHOSE. SO, UM, SO IT'S NOT LISTED IN THE GUIDE, UH, BUT TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, UM, THIS CERTAINLY IN LINE WITH A COMMENT, I THINK WE AVERAGED ALL SUP'S AND IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE 20 TO 25 RANGE. SO IT'S, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE TYPICAL TIME PERIOD. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRINGING OUT THE BIG GUNS, HUH? THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT, THANKS JEN. YEAH. HEY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, I THINK I'VE MET YOU ALL, BUT JUST IN CASE I'M JUD REX ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND WORK WITH THE GREAT FOLKS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, UH, KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART IS THIS PROJECT. AND SO I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEFORE NATHANIEL TAKES OVER. HE'S THE REAL BIG GUN, AND WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS. UM, SO ONE OF THE FIRST DEVELOPERS I MET WITH BACK IN JANUARY OF 2021, WHEN I GOT HERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER THAT HAD THIS PROPERTY OWNED BY WALMART, ALONG GREENBELT PARKWAY, AND UNDER CONTRACT AND THEY'D GONE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF FOR SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT, UM, A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY. AND, UH, JUST NEVER REALLY SETTLED ON A, ON A GREAT DESIGN, GREAT SITE PLAN, AND COULDN'T FIGURE OUT DENSITY ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS TYPICALLY DEAL WITH ON A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. AND SO, UM, A FEW MONTHS PASSED BY AND, UH, WE, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE ISSUES ON THIS PROPERTY REALLY ARE, ARE CONTEXTUAL IN NATURE, MEANING THAT HOW HAS THIS PROPERTY CAN INTERACT WITH THE DART PROPERTY AND, AND WALMART NEXT DOOR AND THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRIPS ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD. AND THERE WAS A VERY BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ANSWER. AND SO, UH, WE, WE CONSULTED WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND DECIDED TO STEP BACK FROM THE SORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND DO A SMALL AREA PLAN, NOT JUST FOR THE GREENBELT, UH, WALMART PROPERTY, BUT ALSO FOR THE DART PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE GOT TODAY WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, BUT SOME IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THAT WHERE THAT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED. AND SO YOU'VE GOT WALMART WHO HAS DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP THERE AND THAT IT SUPPORTS THEIR EXISTING, UH, FOOTPRINT AND STORE, UH, JONATHAN'S PLACE, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT ACROSS GREENBELT PARKWAY HAD SOME INTEREST IN WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. UH, DARREN OF COURSE, WAS LOOKING TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP AND, AND INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS GOING TO DEVELOP ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD GIVE TO THE CITY TO, UM, LOOK FOR REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO A LOT OF PIECES STARTED TO FALL INTO PLACE. AND AS WE WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE HELD A COUPLE OF CHARRETTE MEETINGS TO GAIN SOME INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE LEARNED QUITE A BIT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY CAME UP WITH A PREFERRED OPTION THAT YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THROUGH THAT, THAT PLAN PROCESS. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW. AND SO, UM, ONCE THAT PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UM, WE ALSO, WE HAD ANOTHER CHOICE, ANOTHER FORK IN THE ROAD, WHICH WAS, DO WE LET THE, UNTIL WE LET THE DEVELOPER, UH, WHO STILL HAS THAT PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, THE WALMART PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, UM, MOVE FORWARD AND PROPOSE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND BE THE APPLICANT, OR DO WE, AS THE CITY SORT OF GET IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AGAIN AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A, AND PROPOSE OUR OWN PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR PRIVATE LAND AND THEN ALSO FOR THE DARK PROPERTY. AND SO AGAIN, WE WANTING TO BE PROACTIVE, UM, DECIDED TO HAVE STAFF DRAFT, UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE TRANSIT ORIENTED ASPECT OF IT, AND, AND, UM, DECIDED TO GO THAT ROUTE, UH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY. AND SO, UM, OF COURSE OUR GREAT PLANNING STAFF WORKED THROUGH, UM, THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AGAIN AND GOT SOME INPUT FROM THEM, UH, AND, UH, INCLUDING DART WAL-MART THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UM, AND THEN REALLY JUST TRYING TO MAKE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE PREFERRED PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE PLAN COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. AND SO, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS KIND OF OUR, OUR TAKE ON THAT. CERTAINLY IT'S NOT EXPECTED TO BE THE FINAL DRAFT. UM, THAT'S AGAIN, WHAT THE PROCESS, THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT'S UP IS FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW IT, MAKE [00:20:01] SOME TWEAKS AND ADJUSTMENTS, AND THEN FOR CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME. AND SO, UH, AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND THERE AND, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY EXCITED TO SEE THINGS MOVE FORWARD, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN A MANNER THAT'S GOING TO BUILD UP THIS, UH, THIS UNDEVELOPED LAND, SOME OF THE LAST UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THIS PART OF GARLAND, UH, IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY. THAT'S, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, RESILIENT AGAINST TIME AND ALSO END UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD DESIGN FEATURES AS WELL. SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF PROPOSED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE SOME OF WHAT WE BASED THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON WAS WHAT WE DID AT ROSE HILL AND , AND, UH, THAT PARTICULAR PD, UM, HAD IN THERE THAT, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, VERY WELL, UH, THERE'S THE ZONING PROCESS. AND THEN THE DETAILED PLAN THAT COMES AFTER THAT. AND SO IN ROSE HILL, THE ZONING PROCESS, ONCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU AND CITY COUNCIL, THE DETAILED PLAN WAS LEFT FOR STAFF TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. SO WE SORT OF COPIED AND PASTED THAT FROM, FROM ROSE HILL, YOU KNOW, BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S UP FOR, UP FOR CONSIDERATION. WE'D BE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON IS, UM, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT IF THIS IS SORT OF SOME IMPORTANT PROPERTY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE THAT DETAILED PLAN IN THE FUTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD, CAN BE ADJUSTED AS WELL. SO FEEL FREE TO KIND OF PLAY ALONG WITH THAT, BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE AND KIND OF THE BACKGROUND THERE, AND I'LL LET NATHANIEL KIND OF TAKE OVER FROM HERE AND, UH, CERTAINLY STICK AROUND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. YEAH, GOOD EVENING. UH, SO THIS IS CASEY 22 DASH 25, A PROPOSAL FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. IT IS CITY INITIATED PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE CASE INFORMATION, UH, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 27 ACRES. UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS A PD, UH, 92 DASH 29 FOR A TRANSIT CENTER USE AND ALSO COMMUNITY RETAIL. THIS SHOWS THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE PROPERTY EXISTS. UM, THE RED STAR IS VERY CLOSE TO ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND THE LOCATION MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED UNTIL, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE IN A PD, UH, FOR MULTI-FAMILY USES. AND IT'S DEVELOPED WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. UH, THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ALSO IN THE PD FOR MULTIFAMILY USES, UH, AND DEVELOPED WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEN ALSO COMMUNITY RETAIL, UM, WHICH IS DEVELOPED WITH A WALMART SUPERSTORE. THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE ALSO COMMUNITY RETAILS AND DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL USES AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, OUR COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THE PD. AND MOST OF IT IS VACANT, BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF IT THAT'S DEVELOPED WITH JONATHAN'S PLACE. THERE HAVE BEEN AREA PLANS FOR THIS AREA, UH, IN THE PAST AND JULY OF 2017, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE CORRIDOR CATALYST AREA PLAN, WHICH RECOMMENDS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THEN IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE GREENBELT PARKWAY PROPERTY PLAN. UH, THE PLAN INCLUDED A MARKET ANALYSIS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND RECOMMENDED A MIX OF USES, WHICH INCLUDED HOSPITALITY, RESTAURANTS, URBAN, RESIDENTIAL, ASSISTANT, LIVING TOWNHOMES, AND OPEN SPACES. ALSO THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP FOR, UH, IN 2021 LAST YEAR, A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF GARLAND AND THE DALLAS AREA, RAPID TRANSIT DART SYSTEM WAS SIGNED TO WORK JOINTLY TO BRING DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE TRANSIT CENTERS LOCATED IN GARLAND, WHICH IS, THIS IS ONE OF FOUR THAT ARE HERE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THAT AS TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS, TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS ARE AREAS OF CONCENTRATED ACTIVITY AND INCREASED DENSITY WITH MAXIMUM ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS. THIS TYPE OF CENTERS SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED AS MIXED USE WITH LIVE WORK, PLAY, AND SHOP OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UH, THE FIRST TWO AT THE TOP SHOW, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH END, THE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL OF LAND, UH, LOOKING NORTH AND EAST, AND THEN THE TWO PROP PHOTOS ON THE BOTTOM SHOW, THE NORTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING EAST AND SOUTH, WHICH IS THE DARK TRANSIT CENTER. AND THEN THESE ARE PHOTOS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. [00:25:01] SO LOOKING NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS THE, UM, BELMONT APARTMENT COMPLEX LOOKING EAST, UH, IS THE WALMART SUPERSTORE. WEST IS JONATHAN'S PLACE. AND LOOKING SOUTH ARE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE DOWN THERE. THIS WAS THE PREFERRED CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS IN THE GREENBELT PARKWAY STUDY, UH, APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND IT SHOWS YOU A MIX OF USES, UH, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH HOSPITALITY, RESIDENTIAL RESTAURANTS, AND ASSISTED LIVING AND THE DARK TRANSIT CENTER IN LINE. WITH THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A SUBDISTRICT MAP, UH, TO GO ALONG WITH THE REGULATING PLAN. UH, THE SUB DISTRICTS ARE THERE THREE SUB DISTRICTS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN? THE REGULATING PLAN FOR THE PD FOLLOWS THE PREFER CONCEPTUAL PLAN FROM THE GREENBELT PARKWAY STUDY. UH, IT SPECIFIES THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT FOCUSES ON CREATING A WALKABLE COMMUNITY WITH MULTIPLE HOUSING CHOICES AND A MIX OF USES THREE SUB DISTRICTS WOULD BE CREATED TO DETERMINE WHICH USES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN EACH SUB DISTRICT USES ALLOW WOULD MIRROR. THE USE IS SHOWN IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND AS DRAFTED, IT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO SUBMIT A DETAILED PLAN APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. UH, SIMILAR TO THAT IN ROSE HILL WITH MAJOR DEVIATION IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BY THIS JUDGE HAS MENTIONED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, UH, REVISED AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THERE WERE 35 NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT AND ONE NOTIFICATION WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA OF US RETURN, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. AND WITH THAT STAFF IS WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE CITY'S EFFORTS ON THIS, UH, THE LEADERSHIP, NOT ONLY BY THE CITY, BUT, UM, ALSO BY STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND THOSE OTHER, UH, ENTITIES THAT HAVE ASSISTED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT CUT THREE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS IN REGARD TO STANDARDS BUILDING HEIGHT, THERE IS NO BUILDING HEIGHTS SPECIFIED IS THE CITY ENVISIONING THIS AS A, UH, AS AN INCREDIBLY DENSE URBAN CENTER TO RIVAL DOWNTOWN GARLAND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE? UM, OR IS THAT JUST, I MEAN, I KNOW WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING THIS IDEA FOR ADJUSTING WHAT A MULTI-FAMILY, UM, UM, HEIGHT ALLOTMENT WILL BE. UM, SO I'M KIND OF, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? NO HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. YEAH. I THINK THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ALLOWING THE DEVELOPERS TO DICTATE THE HEIGHT DEPENDING ON THE DENSITY THAT WAS NEEDED. AND, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED. WE DID HAVE SOME HEIGHT LIMITATIONS THEN, BUT THOUGHT THAT THEY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT RESTRICTIVE. SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD, UH, PREDICT WHAT THE HEIGHTS WOULD BE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THE SECOND. YEAH. THE SECOND QUESTION ACTUALLY RELATES TO THE SETBACKS AS WELL, SINCE THERE ARE NO MINIMUM SETBACKS AND THAT'S GUESSING A SIMILAR SORT OF IDEA, RIGHT? THAT WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE URBAN STYLES TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU BRING BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREETS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD NO SETBACKS REALLY REQUIRED. AND THEN THAT FINAL THOUGHT IS I REALLY ACTUALLY THINK IT'S, UM, WELL DONE THE, HOW THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE AND HOW THEY LOOK AS IT AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE OVERALL GOALS OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS. I THINK THE WAY THAT THE PARKING STANDARDS ARE APPLIED ARE REALLY THOUGHTFUL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AS USUAL? I'VE GOT A FEW AND I'VE ALREADY GONE OVER SOME OF THESE WITH, UH, MR. MR. GARRETT AND MR. X. BUT, UH, AND I GAVE, GAVE WILL A COPY OF THEM. AND I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I REALLY DO. YOU ALL HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU'VE WORKED ON IT FOR MONTHS. I'VE HAD A WHOLE HOUR OR SO TO READ THROUGH IT AND DIGEST IT. SO THIS IS OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD AND I HAVE WORKED FOR DEVELOPERS. SO I LOOK AT IT FROM, OKAY, HOW CAN I WORK THE SYSTEM TO, SO PLEASE BEAR IN MIND, NONE OF THESE COMMENTS ARE MEANT PERSONALLY OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST, HOW CAN WE TIGHTEN THINGS DOWN AND GET WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE WHAT'S LAID OUT IS REALLY GOOD. AND THERE ARE EIGHT WORDS IN THERE THAT KIND OF GIVE ME HEARTBURN. IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLANNING CONDITIONS. UH, WE TRIED THAT UP AT ONE 90 IN CAMPBELL ROAD [00:30:01] ON 50, 70, 8100 ACRES. I FORGET WHAT IT WAS, AND IT WAS AGAIN SUPPOSED TO BE WALKABLE AND ALL, BUT WE STARTED GETTING APARTMENTS AND APARTMENTS AND APARTMENTS. WE GOT A COUPLE OF DATA CENTERS AND WE FINALLY HAVE TWO, UH, RETAIL, SMALL RETAIL BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT WALKABLE AT ALL. SO IT DIDN'T ACHIEVE THE GOAL. AND THAT ALSO WAS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED AND THERE WASN'T MUCH THEY COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT SAID YOU COULD PUT APARTMENTS THERE. SO THEY APPROVED APARTMENTS, UM, NEAR 600 PLUS APARTMENTS. UM, IT GOT TO THE POINT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE CALLED, BUT LAST YEAR, A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE REMOVED THE APARTMENT USE FROM THE REST OF THE LAND BECAUSE WE SAW THE TREND THAT IS GOING TO BE ALL APARTMENTS. AND I KIND OF WANT TO LET THE PLAN COMMISSION CONSOLE, AND MOST MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PUBLIC AND THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A LOOK AT THIS AS A PROCEEDS, BECAUSE IF WE GO THIS WAY, WE DON'T SEE IT AGAIN. COUNCIL, DOESN'T SEE IT AGAIN, STAKEHOLDERS AND THE PUBLIC. DOESN'T GET TO SEE IT AGAIN. SO, AND THERE WAS A WHAT MR. X WAS POINTING OUT THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO, UH, HAVING IT GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF SOFT WORDS IN THERE THAT REALLY DON'T NAIL THINGS DOWN OR GIVE STAFF SOMETHING THEY CAN POINT TO SAY, WELL, NO, WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING BETTER. UH, IT, LIKE IT SAYS PREFERRED CONCEPTUAL PLAN. HOW MUCH CAN IT, AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE, HOW MUCH CAN IT CHANGE? YOU KNOW, IT'S PREFERRED, DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY? UM, SUBDISTRICT TWO, IT SAYS POSSIBILITY OF MULTIFAMILY AND TOWNHOME. OKAY. MAYBE THERE ARE NO TOWNHOMES, MAYBE IT'S ALL MULTIFAMILY. IT'S JUST, IT'S A POSSIBILITY. AND IT DOESN'T LEAD TO THE MULTIPLE TYPES OF USES THAT WE WANT. UM, THERE'S ONE THING IT'S KIND OF TECHNICAL DENSITY MORE THAN CURRENTLY LOUD AND IS BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WELL, OUR NEXT CASE IS CHANGING THE DENSITY. SO IS IT REFERRING TO THE OLD ORDINANCE OR NEW ORDINANCE OR DO WE GET THEM TO PASS ONE BEFORE THE OTHER? AND SO THE REFERENCES IS GOOD. SO WOULD THAT BE OVER 30 TO 40, 50, 60? SO THINGS LIKE THAT, SUBDISTRICT THREE, UH, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE SOFT WORDS. VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL OFFERINGS CAN BE OFFERED. SO IF WE WANT SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE A VARIETY, MAYBE WE GO IN THERE AND SAY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT. SO STAFF HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN POINT TO AND GUIDE THE DEVELOPERS AND WORK IT OUT THROUGH THE DETAILED PLAN PROCESS AND THROUGH THE, UM, VARIANCES TO THE CONDITIONS. AND THERE'S ONE IN HERE. THE INTENTION OF THE SUB-DISTRICTS WAS TO PLACE COMMERCIAL USES THAT WORD NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. UH, LOWER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE MENTIONED, BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION OF THE LOWER DENSITY VERSUS THE HIGHER DENSITY IN THEIR, UH, UNDER USES. UH, AND I'M CERTAIN YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THIS, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AT A FULL SERVICE HOTEL? I DON'T KNOW, A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOME LAND AND HAS TOWNHOMES REQUIRE A LOT MORE LAND. AS WE SAW IN A RECENT CASE WHERE WE HAD APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES, THEY HAD TO HAVE A 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY FOR THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE WORKING AGAINST US. CAN WE CREATE A MULTI-FAMILY ROW HOUSING DEFINITION OR HORIZONTAL HOUSING DEFINITION, WHICH WOULD USE LESS LAND BECAUSE CHANCES ARE, THEY'D BE RENTAL. ANYHOW, IT'D BE BOUGHT BY PEOPLE WHO HAD RAN THEM OUT. SO MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP THE DEVELOPER BY REQUIRING LESS LAND FOR TOWNHOMES. THEY MAY BE MORE INCLINED TO PUT TOWN HOMES IN, ALONG WITH THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, TO, TO, TO, TO, AND AGAIN, ANOTHER SOFTWARE INTENTION OF SUBDISTRICT TO, UH, THE ONLY MUST ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT IS IN SUBDISTRICT TWO. THEY MUST PROVIDE FLEX SPACE IN THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDINGS. THAT'S THE ONLY MANDATORY ITEM THAT I SEE IN, IN THE DEAL. UH, AND THEN LANDSCAPED BUFFER. AND I'M CERTAIN STAFF WILL DO THIS. THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES IN THERE NOW, BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, THERE'LL BE A TREE EVERY 25 FEET. AND I THINK MORE, THE GOAL SHOULD BE TOWARDS THE MORE NATURAL LOOK. AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IF IT'S GOING TO BE WALKABLE, MAYBE NO FENCE IS BETWEEN ANY OF THE USES. SO PEOPLE AREN'T CREATING WALLED OFF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT GOES AWAY. NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND FOR ASSISTED LIVING CAUSE THERE'S MEMORY CARE IN THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULD ALLOW THAT KIND OF DEAL, BUT FENCES ARE BARRIERS. AND IF WE WANT WALKABILITY, LET'S ELIMINATE SOME OF THE BARRIERS. [00:35:03] AND, UH, AND I I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR WHAT DARK NEEDS AND WANTS, BUT, UH, THAT CAN COME. I WAS EVEN THINKING OF MASTER DETAILED PLAN. AND ONE QUESTION IS WALMART WILLING TO ALLOW USE OF SOME OF THEIR PARKING THEY'RE PROBABLY OVER PARKED. UH, AND THERE'S A DEAL IN THERE ABOUT REDUCED PARKING WILL BE ALLOWED. ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE A PARKING STUDY OF THE DEVELOPER TO PROVE, UH, THAT REDUCED PARKING WILL WORK? AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME INCENTIVES FOR STRUCTURED PARKING IN THERE, MAYBE SOME GUIDE GUIDELINES SUCH AS WE HAVE IN THE URBAN, UM, MULTI-FAMILY THAT FOR, UH, FOR THAT, UH, AND THE ELECTRIC CHARGERS, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, TECHNICAL, THEY NEED TO BE SUPERCHARGERS. AND I THINK THE ONES OVER IN THE BUILDING HERE AND THAT SUPERCHARGERS, AND THEY ALSO NEED TO BE MULTIPLE FORMATS BECAUSE ELECTRIC CARS, YOU'VE GOT TESLA, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE GOING TO EUROPE AND HAVING ALL THE DIFFERENT PLUGS. SO SUPERCHARGERS AND MULTIPLE FORMATS. AND, UH, IN MAJOR DEVIATIONS SEEM TO BE TIED TO IDENTIFIABLE NUMBERS AND USE IS NOW, UM, WOULD STAFF BE ALLOWED TO MAKE JUDGMENT CALLS AND MAJOR DEVIATIONS AND TO THE INTENT AND STUFF. UH, AND IT'S HARD TO FORESEE ALL THE MULTIFAMILY TODAY'S MARKET, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THINGS W I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET TO WHAT YOU'VE ENVISIONED. AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE TOOLS THERE FOR YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. AND THAT'S MY WHOLE SPIEL. IT'S A QUICK RUN THROUGH, BUT, WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT LIST OF THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO, UH, CONSIDER. AND AGAIN, IT'S OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I HAVE WORKED FOR A DEVELOPER AND YOU PUT AN OBSTACLE IN FRONT OF A DEVELOPER, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET AROUND IT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I BRING SOME OF THAT STUFF OUT. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT OH, NO, NO. THIS IS JUST INPUT AND IT'S JUST AS MUCH FOR CONSULATE AS IT IS FOR YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE. NO, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE ANSWERS CAUSE I DON'T. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO TOUCH UPON A FEW OF THOSE THINGS. UM, UH, WHAT REGARDS TO THE INCENTIVES FOR PARKING GARAGES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE ALLOWING A HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GET THE HIGHER DENSITY THAN YOU DO GET THE PARKING STRUCTURE, THE NUMBERS CAN WORK FOR THE DEVELOPERS. UM, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY COULD BE LOCATED THROUGHOUT ALL THE SUB DISTRICT THREE, SINCE IT'S NOT ALLOW YOU. SO WE THOUGHT WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. DOESN'T ALLOW JUST A CAP ON MULTIFAMILY SO THAT YOU WOULD GET THE OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING CHOICES IN THAT SUB DISTRICT. UM, ALONG WITH MULTI-FAMILY, UM, SUPERCHARGERS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT. AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY TRY TO MAKE SURE, BUT THE INTENT OF THAT WAS JUST, THERE'S A COMING, UH, TYPE OF USE, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES NEED MORE CHARGING AREAS. SO WE DID WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE AREA AND WE ARE WORKING WITH DARK, UH, FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT. SO IT WOULD PROBABLY GO OUT FOR AN RFP AND HAVE TRIED TO GET A MASTER DEVELOPER FOR THE ENTIRE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COST, THEY ARE GIVEN THAT MORE THAN HALF OF THEIR PARKING SPACES BECAUSE OF THE UTILIZATION RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 38%. AND, UH, THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LAND. SO WELL, AS USUAL, YOU GUYS, YOU FOLKS ARE, YOU KNOW, TWO STEPS AHEAD OF ME, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER RUSE. YES, JEREMY AND I THINK THE MOST CRITICAL THING YOU BROUGHT UP WAS THE FIRST ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS OKAY. THE ONE WHERE THEY, WE AND THE COUNCIL DON'T GIVE THE STAFF PERMISSION TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR EVERYTHING. AND THAT WAY WE CAN, AND THE COUNCIL CAN SORT OF CONTROL WHAT IS DONE OR WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AND I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE STAFF, BUT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, PEOPLE CHANGE THAT'S RIGHT. SO I THINK THE CHANGE THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY CRITICAL THAT CHANGE THE WORDING. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PR PR I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. [00:40:01] ONE MORE ITEM. WE GOOD? OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ROUND OF, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE GDC. AND THIS WAS ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, MY RECOLLECTION WAS THIS WAS, UM, INITIATED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, UM, AS THEY WERE KIND OF OBSERVING, UM, A LOT OF THE, UH, PD REQUESTS AND, AND DETAILED PLAN REQUESTS FOR MULTIFAMILY COMING THROUGH. AND, UM, IT WAS REALLY, UM, I MEAN THE NUMBER OF DEVIATIONS THAT WERE COMMON, BUT REALLY TWO, UH, SPECIFIC DEVIATIONS THAT WERE JUST VERY, VERY COMMON, REALLY JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE, UM, REQUESTS. UM, SO THE QUESTION WAS POSED AS TO WHETHER WE, UM, MAYBE CONSIDER SOME OF THAT AND ALLOWING A COUPLE OF THESE SPECIFIC DEVIATIONS THAT ARE VERY, UM, UH, UH, COMMON ITEMS, UH, ALLOW SOME OF THESE THINGS BY RIGHT. AND KIND OF CREATE A MECHANISM FOR THAT VERSUS, UM, ALWAYS KIND OF TRIGGERING THAT, TRIGGERING THAT HEARING PROCESS. SO THAT IS, UM, I'LL KIND OF GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, OF COURSE THERE IS A, AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GDC AND THE TWO MOST COMMON DEVIATIONS THAT, THAT WE SEE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYONE THAT, UM, AND WHAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY IS A NEWER, MODERN STYLE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN URBAN LOOK TO THEM A LITTLE BIT, UM, UH, TALLER BUILDING HEIGHTS, THIRD, TYPICALLY ACCOMMODATING UP TO FOUR STORIES, SOMETIMES EVEN FIVE. UM, UH, THE ROOF LINE USUALLY IS ALL DIFFERENT AND IT'S, IT'S TO KIND OF GETTING AWAY FROM THAT, UH, FORMER GARDEN STYLE LAYOUT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LAYOUT, A TALLER BUILDING HEIGHTS, HIGHER DENSITIES, AND THE LIKE, UM, SO, SO BUILDING HEIGHT AS A COMMON DEVIATION AS IS DENSITY, THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AS IT STANDS TODAY, AND THE GDC, UM, HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 40 FEET. UM, AND THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS 18 UNITS PER ACRE. UM, SO THESE DEVIATIONS, UM, TRIGGER THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING PROCESS, UM, IN SOME CASES, EVEN WHEN MULTIFAMILY IS, IS AN ALLOWED USE. UM, SO, UM, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IN THE, UM, UH, STAFF REPORT AND DRAFT ORDINANCE IS, UH, KIND OF BREAKING, BREAKING OUT THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT INTO TWO, UM, HAVING A MULTIFAMILY ONE AND NF ONE AND AN MF TWO, THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH WE'LL GET TO HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT, UM, BREAKING OUT THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT INTO THESE TWO SORT OF MF WORN ENOUGH TO A FEW OTHER CITIES, UM, ACTUALLY DO THIS AS WELL. UM, I BELIEVE, UM, ALAN'S SELENA, UH, PLANO, JUST TO NAME A FEW, BUT ANYWAY, UM, SO THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS THAT THE NF ONE WOULD BE BASICALLY WHAT THE CURRENT NF, UM, MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT IS. SO NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE NAME, ADDING THAT NUMBER TO IT. SO AS, UM, HOPEFULLY NOT TO MAKE ANY PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, LEGAL NONCONFORMING AND THAT SORT OF THING. THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENT WITH THIS, WITH THIS CHANGE. UM, IT'S JUST TO KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE THE TWO. SO, UM, SO THE, THIS, UH, NF ONE WOULD BE THE CURRENT MULTI-FAMILY ZONING DESIGNATION, UH, KEEPING THE 18 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE 40 FOOT BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, EXISTING BY RIOT AND ALL OF THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS WOULD JUST BECOME THIS. SO AGAIN, NOT TO MAKE THEM LEGAL, NONCONFORMING, CHANGING THE REGULATIONS ON THEM. UM, HOWEVER, UM, AND THIS, THIS WAS ONE, A SPECIFIC REGULATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE COMMITTEE. UM, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE, UM, THE GDC REQUIREMENT, UH, REQUIRING, UM, ANGLED BUILDING ORIENTATION. THERE'S A 30% ANGLED BUILDING ORIENTATION. AND, UM, FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE INTENT BEHIND THAT WAS, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T, IT HASN'T SEEMED TO WORK REAL WELL WITH, UM, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND ESPECIALLY THE MORE URBAN STYLE ONES THAT TEND TO WANT TO BE PARALLEL TO THE ROADWAY. IN SOME CASES, THE BUILDING IS, IS PUSHED UP CLOSE TO THE STREET LEVEL. YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT REQUIREMENT WITH THE GDC AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FLEXIBILITY, BUT, UM, THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND REMOVING IT, NONETHELESS. UM, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF WHAT, UH, UM, THE CURRENT MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT MF ONE, UH, LOOKS LIKE, CAUSE THIS ACTUALLY WAS, THIS DID NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS. THIS WAS A, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX NEAR I 30 THAT WAS APPROVED A FEW YEARS AGO AND MET, UM, EVERY MULTI-FAMILY STANDARD IN THE GDC. UM, SO MF TWO WOULD BE ADDRESSING SPECIFICALLY THOSE TWO, UH, REGULATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT DENSITY AND BUILDING HEIGHT. AND SO, UM, WHEN, UH, MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE, WE LOOKED AT, I KIND OF TOOK AN AVERAGE OF, UM, OF MULTIFAMILY THE MORE URBAN STYLE, SPECIFICALLY, THE MORE URBAN STYLE MULTIFAMILY [00:45:01] DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND AVERAGED OUT WHAT THOSE APPROVED DENSITIES AND BUILDING HEIGHTS WERE. AND SO THE AVERAGE APPROVED DENSITY LEVEL WAS ABOUT 32 UNITS PER ACRE FOR THESE APPROVED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT WENT THROUGH THAT PD PROCESS AND REQUESTED TO DEVIATION LANDED AT ABOUT 32 UNITS, AN ACRE. AND THEN THE HEIGHT LANDED AT ABOUT, UM, 50, WELL, IT WAS ABOUT 48, UM, BUT WE FIGURED 50 MIGHT BE A CLEAN NUMBER. AND ACTUALLY WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT JUST WENT THROUGH COUNCIL THE OTHER NIGHT, THE TRUE MONT GROUP, UH, NEAR THE FIREWALL TOWN CENTER, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING ABOUT 65 FEET IN HEIGHT. SO THAT ACTUALLY DID PUSH THAT THE AVERAGE UP TO ABOUT 50. SO THAT'S WHERE THESE NUMBERS COME FROM. THESE ARE CERTAINLY ADJUSTABLE. UM, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST, THESE ARE BEING PROPOSED JUST SIMPLY BASED ON, UM, WHAT THE AVERAGE TURNED OUT TO BE. SO, UM, AGAIN, THE COMMISSION CAN CERTAINLY RECOMMEND, UM, SOME, SOME DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND WHERE SO-SO IN THE MF TWO PROPOSAL. UH, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WOULD BE ADJUSTED AT 32 UNITS PER ACRE, MAXIMUM 50 FEET MAXIMUM, BUT ALL OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, ALLOWABLE USES EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE, UM, EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE MF ONE DISTRICT. AND WE FOUND THAT A LOT, A LOT OF THE APPROVED MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS OR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN, UH, SOME OF WHICH HAVE JUST BEEN, UH, HAVE REQUESTED ONLY THESE TWO DEVIATIONS. THEY HAVEN'T SEEMED TO STRUGGLE TOO MUCH WITH, UM, SETBACKS OR AMENITIES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. CARPORT SETBACKS ARE SOMETIMES, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE SEE A FEW OTHERS OCCASIONALLY, BUT THESE ARE THE, THE TWO MOST COMMON ONES. AND IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A MORE RECENT, MODERN STYLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ACTUALLY DID. UM, THIS IS UP NEAR THE FIREWALL TOWN CENTER, BUT THIS IS ONE WHERE THEY, UM, THEY HAD TWO SPECIFIC DEVIATION REQUESTS AND THERE WAS BUILDING HEIGHT AND DENSITY. SO, AND IT WAS JUST THE ELEVATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. UM, AS I MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, THERE IS AN EXISTING URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AVAILABLE IN THE GDC AS WELL. UH, TO MY RECOLLECTION, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DEVELOPERS, UM, REQUEST TO ZONE INTO IT. UM, IT SEEMED THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH IT. I MEAN, IT IS OF COURSE, VERY PRESCRIPTIVE. IT IS A FORM-BASED CODE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM, UM, SET OF REGULATIONS VERSUS THE MF DISTRICT. IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO LIKE DOWNTOWN WHERE YOU HAVE VERY, VERY SHORT SETBACKS AND, UM, SIDEWALK FURNISHING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. UH, BUT IT HAS A MUCH, MUCH GREATER AND HEIGHT ALLOWANCE. SO, UM, IT HAS A BELIEVE AT 30 UNIT, UM, PER ACRE MINIMUM, AND THEN IT CAPS AT 60. SO, UM, SO THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED KEEPING THAT IN PLACE. UH, BUT ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER REQUIREMENT, UH, WHERE I WAS KIND OF GETTING TO A MINUTE GOES, DEVELOPERS WILL OFTENTIMES SEE THIS, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN THERE THAT WERE ACTUALLY REQUIRES NON-RESIDENTIAL USE, UH, IT HAS THIS RATIO TO 70, TO 30 RESIDENTIAL TO NON RESIDENTIAL RATIO. UM, BUT IT'S A BIT CONFUSING. THERE'S A MINIMUM, BUT NOT A MAXIMUM. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THAT REGULATED BY CEO AND IT'S, IT'S NOT A, UM, IT'S NOT A REAL ENFORCEABLE OR AN EASY REQUIREMENT TO ADMINISTER. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, SEEMS TO HAVE KIND OF SCARED OFF A FEW DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY, UM, KIND OF LOOK AT THAT THEY MAY BE INTRIGUED BY THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL, BE LIKE, NAH, I'D RATHER JUST ZONE INTO A PD AND BASE IT IN MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS AND REQUEST THE DEVIATIONS THAT I NEED TO REQUEST. SO, UM, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO REMOVE THAT, UM, HARD REQUIREMENT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT INSTEAD REQUIRE A MINIMUM, UH, GROUND FLOOR HEIGHT, UH, 12 FEET, I BELIEVE IS THE REQUIREMENT, UH, BASICALLY JUST ACCOMMODATING, UM, POTENTIAL NON-RESIDENTIAL RETAIL USES THINGS OF THAT SORT. UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, VERY SIMILAR. I LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF OTHER URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN A FEW OTHER CITIES AND THEY HAD THE SAME REQUIREMENT, EVEN WHEN THEY CALLED IT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS BASICALLY JUST THEY'RE REQUIRED THE GROUND FLOOR TO ACCOMMODATE THE HIGHER FLOOR CEILINGS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE NON-RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY TO GO IN THERE, UM, GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. UM, JUST SNAPPED A PHOTO OF DOWNTOWN. THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST THING TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL, SOME OF THE, UM, DEVELOPMENTS AND THE FIREWALL TOWN CENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TOWN CENTER WOULD BE, UH, PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT, UM, THAT CONFIGURATION AS WELL. UM, SO REALLY WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE LEVEL AND WAS RECOMMENDED BY THEM AND WE'RE BRINGING IT BEFORE YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? I'VE GOT MY LIST, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. UM, DID ANY, I, I STRUGGLED WITH THIS IDEA OF CARTON STYLE. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT LISTED ANYWHERE IN THE GDC. UM, WHAT IS CARTON STYLE? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. I THINK I MAY HAVE SOME BACKUPS NOW. [00:50:01] BEAR WITH ME. IT'S ON MY LIST TOO. I MAY NOT. I MAY HAVE, THERE'S A PREVIOUS COMMITTEE PRESENTATION I GAVE WHERE WE GAVE SOME, UH, PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMPLES, BUT GENERALLY IT'S, UM, THEY'RE THEY TEND TO BE LOWER DENSITY. UM, USUALLY AVERAGE SOMEWHERE IN THE 12 TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE. UH, USUALLY THEY'RE ABOUT TWO STORIES, THREE STORIES AT MOST. UH, THEY TYPICALLY HAVE, UM, A WIDE SPACES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. UM, UH, ORIGINALLY THE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS WAS, IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL. I MEAN, VERY THOUGHTFUL, OPEN SPACE AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, AND ONCE WE GOT TO URBAN STYLE, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET, UM, OR PITCHED ROOFS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF GARDEN STYLE. YOU'D HAVE KIND OF VERY RESIDENTIAL PITCHED ROOFS, UM, OFTENTIMES, UM, EXTERIOR STAIRWELLS. UM, WHEREAS WHEN YOU GOT MORE IN THE MODERN URBAN STYLE, THE STAIRWELLS ARE MORE INTERIOR. THE BUILDING HEIGHTS WENT UP, BUT THEN THE ROOF LINES KIND OF GOT A LITTLE FLATTER, KIND OF MORE STEPPED, UH, ROOF LINES. UM, BUILDINGS GOT A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE EDGE. OPEN SPACE WAS THOUGHT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. IT'S OPEN SPACE IS A LITTLE MORE, UM, IT KIND OF ACTIVATED THE STREET LEVEL AND SIDEWALK LEVEL, UM, VERSUS JUST HAVING KIND OF WIDE OPEN SPACES BETWEEN BUILDINGS. SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT CHANGES IN THE LAYOUT AND BILLING DESIGN AND HEIGHTS, AND OF COURSE, DENSITY URBAN STYLE, AT LEAST IN GARDEN GARLAND, YOU GET MORE IN THE 30 UNITS, SOMETIMES 40 UNITS PER ACRE RANGE. UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, THE CHAIRMAN'S THOUGHTS AS I WAS READING IT. I THOUGHT THAT I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST UNQUALIFIED PERSON TO OFFER ANY SORT OF OPINION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT RELATES TO THE IDENTITY OF THE CITY. UM, WHEN I READ THE GDC, I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CARTON STYLE IS PREFERRED FOR THE IDENTITY FOR, FOR, FOR WHO, OR HOW THE CITY HAS KIND OF MODELED ITSELF IN SOME OF HIS RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THAT MADE SENSE EVEN APPLICATION OF AN URBAN RESIDENTIAL STYLE, AS OPPOSED TO CREATION OF A SECOND. ANYWAY. UM, YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION, UM, THE CITY SEES ITSELF GOING AS OPPOSED TO WHERE THE CITY HAS BEEN, UH, PREVIOUSLY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. THE GARDEN STYLE IS MORE OF A, I ACTUALLY SUGGESTED IF THEY REMOVED AS A TERM, IT'S A RELIC OF THE EIGHTIES, NINETIES, AND EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. UH, I'VE DESIGNED MANY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS, AND 18 IS MAXING THEM OUT NICELY. YOU CAN GO HIGHER DENSITY, BUT YOU REALLY, AND I'VE DONE IT. YOU REALLY DON'T WANT HIGHER DENSITY, GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS. HE LOOKED CRAMMED AND EVERYTHING. SO, UM, I I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND START IT. AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING. UH, I HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS THOUGH. NOT THAT I EVER DO, BUT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE SAME THING. , ONE'S 18, ONE'S 32. AND AS I TOLD, UH, MR. GAREN EARLIER TODAY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE GOING TO GRANDEES YOU ORDER A CHICKEN FRIED STEAK DINNER AND THEY GO, YOU WANT ONE STEAK OR TWO? AND IF YOU ASK THEM IS THE PRICE OF SALMON. THEY TELL YOU, YEAH, SAME PERSON, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GET? YOU'RE GOING TO GO FOR TWO. SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIFFERENTIATION, SOME REQUIREMENTS TO MAYBE PUSH THE HIGHER DENSITY TOWARDS URBAN STYLE AND, UH, LOCATION OF PARKING, UH, UNDER URBAN STYLE. WE DO NOT ALLOW PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE STREET, THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, IF WE COULD INCENTIVIZE STRUCTURED PARKING, THAT WOULD BE NICE, BUT THAT'S HARD TO DO. BUILDING DESIGN SHOULD BE FORESIGHT OF THE ARCHITECTURE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT IN OUR REGULAR APARTMENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT IS PRETTY MUCH IN URBAN STYLE DESIGN. SO LET'S STICK THAT IN THERE AND AT LEAST MAKE SOME DIFFERENTIATION OTHER THAN NUMBERS, UH, AND SOME YARD TO BUILD LINE REQUIREMENTS WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE UP CLOSER TO THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT CREATES AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. SO ADDING SOME EXPECTATIONS AND TO AVOID HIGH DENSITY, GARDEN STYLE STUFF, AND STAFF CAN WORK ALL THAT OUT IN THE ORDINANCE FORMAT. AND THIS IS MORE FOR LEGAL AND MAYBE THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT ALL. BUT AS I READ THAT, WHEN I FIRST READ THROUGH IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AND THEN TALKED ABOUT TYPES TYPES. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT DOWN TO SECTION FIVE THAT ACTUALLY SAID WE'RE CREATING DISTRICTS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, MAKE IT LIKE SINGLE FAMILY SF 15 S F 18 SF. SO IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR. UM, YEAH, PRETTY MUCH LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT ABOUT COVERS IT JUST SO IT'S CLEAR WHEN SOMEBODY IS READING THE ORDINANCE, THAT THEY [00:55:01] ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS, INSTEAD OF BECAUSE IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE SINGLE, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ACREAGE AND F YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT, AND IF WE HAVE MFN AND SUB CATEGORIES, I'VE JUST MADE THEM TWO CATEGORIES THERE, M F ONE M MEMPHIS TWO AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. CAUSE AGAIN, I, I DO READ THESE THINGS AND I WASN'T CLEAR BY THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. NOW, ONCE IT'S FINALLY WRITTEN, I'M CERTAIN WE'LL BE PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT I LOVE WHERE IT'S GOING. AND I AGREE WITH KEEPING URBAN, RESIDENTIAL, SEPARATE NOTHING WE MIGHT ADD INTO THE IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE FIRST FLOOR LOOK, UM, AND MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE TALLER, MAYBE 10 FOOT OR 11 FOOT WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE IS KIND OF A BASE TO THE BUILDING AND GIVEN AN URBAN STYLE AND JUST NUDGE THEM IN THAT DIRECTION, DESIGN WISE. THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH OUR WORK SESSION THEN. AND SO WE WILL RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK. [Call to Order] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE JUNE 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER YOU JOIN US OR NOT, AND NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION, NEVER HAS NEVER WILL. TONIGHT'S PARENT PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, MATT, WE PRAY. THANK YOU, DEAR LORD, FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. THANK YOU FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BLESSED US WITH. BE WITH US TONIGHT, DEAR LORD, TO HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY. I PRAY FOR THIS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OR EMS, AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. I PRAY THAT THEY'RE ALL SAFE. PLEASE FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. AND, UH, IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT, UH, OR THE KIOSKS SET UP OUT THERE STILL, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ASKS YOU, YOU CAN SIGN UP AND TO SPEAK AND IT'LL SHOW UP ON MY SCREEN. AND WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND THE MICROPHONE FIRE RECORDS, APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. SO THEIR SPEAKERS THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SUCH AS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME. AND THEN AFTER ALL THAT, WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND, AND, UM, SUM UP. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING [Consent Agenda] TO START OUT WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WE WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE MOTION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THESE ITEMS OUT. ANY COMMISSIONER OR ANY PERSON THE AUDIENCE WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. JUST LET ME KNOW, AND WE'LL SEPARATE IT OUT AND DISCUSS IT AND TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE ON IT. ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM ONE, A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAY 23RD, 2022 MEETING ITEM TWO, A PLAT 22 DASH 12 TOWN OF EMBRY, REPLANT ITEM TWO, B PLAT 20 DASH 13 BUNKER HILL GARLAND, K A P FINAL PLAT ITEM TWO C PLAT 22 DASH 14, HERITAGE PARK PRELIMINARY PLAT ITEM TWO D PLAT 22 DASH 15, MILLENNIAL MILLENNIUM VILLAGE EDITION, FINAL PLAT. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, SEEN NONE JOURNAL ENTERTAIN, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER JENKINS MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE. AND JUST A SECOND. THERE YOU GO. UM, AND TRY TO TRY DIFFERENT SCREEN. [01:00:02] YEAH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. OKAY. THE REST OF Y'ALL GOT WIPED OUT. SHOW OF HANDS ALL IN FAVOR THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ISN'T TECHNOLOGY WONDERFUL ONTO OUR PUBLIC [Items 3A & 3B] HEARING ITEMS, ZONING CASE. FIRST ONE IS A TWO-PARTER ITEM THREE, A CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICATION STONE CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC MASTER SLASH MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGES IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 19 DASH 22 IN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTIFAMILY USES THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 42 45. BOB TOWN ROAD ITEM THREE, B CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION IS STONE HAWK, CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC SLASH MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SAME PROPERTY. SO THE APPLICANT HERE. ALL RIGHT. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES LIAR THOUGH. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME. DALLAS, CATHERINE, 2201 JACKSON STREET. UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. UM, AND IS IT CAN Y'ALL SEE IT, IT'S NOT, I DON'T SIT ON THE SCREENS LIKE I NORMALLY WOULD, BUT GOT IT. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU SUPER. OKAY. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING OLD WHEN YOUR EMPLOYEES DO THE POWERPOINT FOR YOU AND SEND YOU PLACES. MAXWELL SENDS ME NOW IN HIS STEAD. SO I THINK, I, I THINK I'VE BEEN DEMOTED BUT HAPPILY. SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE COMING AND LOVE THE EXHIBIT, UH, OUT THERE. UH, UH, MY GRANDFATHER WAS A, W HAD A, UH, UH, MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN GARLAND IN WORLD WAR II, WHERE THEY MADE TROUGHS FOR HORSES AND MULES TO EAT FROM. SO, UM, UH, WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. SO, UH, IF I, IF I MAY JUST TAKE A SECOND, I MEANT TO DO THIS AT OUR PRE-MEETING, UH, FOR ALL OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THERE IS A WORLD WAR TWO DISPLAY DOWN HERE IN THE LOBBY OF CITY HALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE HERE, BUT COME ON DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK. IT IS WELL WORTHWHILE. BRING YOUR KIDS DOWN, LET THEM KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT ABOUT 80? ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS. 80 YEARS AGO. YEP. ALRIGHTY, SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT THAT. OH, NO, NO, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS ONE. I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HERE. I MEAN, UH, THIS IS GOOD PLANNING ON THE CITY SIDE AND PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FOUND THIS SITE. WE'VE GOT A SELLER THAT'S GOING TO RETAIN PIECES FOR RETAIL. SO HAPPY ENDING, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SO ON WITH THE SHOW. SO THE CATALYST, UH, THE ENVISION GARLAND DENOTES THIS AS A CATALYST AREA THAT PROMOTES A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS USES. AND WITH THE QUICK TRIP, AND YOU REMEMBER THIS QUICK TRIP, ISN'T JUST GAS STATION, IT'S ALSO LARGER VEHICLE FUELING. SO WHEN THAT CAME IN, IT SORT OF CAT CHANGED. WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS PIECE IS IRREGULAR IN SIZE. IT'S SORT OF LANDLOCKED. UM, IT'S ONLY GOT THE BALLAD TOWN ACCESS. YOU HAD TO SOLVE CREATIVELY FOR WHAT YOU COULD DO HERE, BUT IT'S GREAT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IT'S NOT SUPER DENSE. UH, UH, SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. SO THIS IS AN URBAN INFILL PROJECT. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOUR PLAN IS CALLED FOR. SO I THINK THAT IS WHY STAFF IS, IS, UH, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST. SO WE DO WANT TO INTRODUCE NEW DESIRABLE HOUSING TYPES THROUGH INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT OF VACANT OR OBSOLETE NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT SET, I WOULD SAY GARLAND HAS BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE AT, SINCE NEIL WAS HERE IN MAXWELL, UH, FISHER, WHEN THEY WERE THE STAFF MEMBERS Y'ALL DID A PLAN, UH, MAYBE IN THE MID TWO THOUSANDS, YOU DID A PLANNING EXERCISE ABOUT RETAIL PAIRING. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY OTHER FIRST RING SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THIS. BUT I GO TO SO MANY PLACES WHERE THEY STILL TERRORISTS TELL US WE WANT RETAIL AND SALES TAX, AND THEY'RE CHASING SOMETHING THAT IS ELUSIVE AND WILL NOT RETURN BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I, AND I TRY TO TELL THESE CITIES, I HAVE A 16 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WHO, WHEN I, AND WE LIVE TWO MILES FROM NORTH PARK, SHE DOESN'T EVEN GO ANNUALLY. SHE JUST ALWAYS TELLS ME BRICK AND MORTAR SHOPPING. SO LANE DAD, I MEAN THE, YOU KNOW, THE PHONE I THOUGHT I HAD MY PHONE, THE PHONE IS WHERE ALL SHOPPING OCCURS, UM, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. SO IT REQUIRES CITIES THINKING. UH, AND I THINK NEIL WAS ONTO THAT [01:05:01] REALLY EARLY IN THIS CITY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF CAPITALIZING. AND THAT'S WHAT PLANNING IS OFTEN TRY AND TELL MY, MY YOUNGER PLANNERS AND THE THING YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS FROM MY, THIS IS ONE OF MY DAD'S THEORIES. HE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT GOOD PLANNING IS LIKE DRIVING A CAR. YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT OVER THE HORIZON AND WE CAN GLANCE IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR AND LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE BACK. BUT IF WE'RE WATCHING THE REAR VIEW MIRROR ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WE CAN'T DRIVE OUR CAR INTO THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PLANNING IS. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS EXERCISE IS, IS THAT OKAY, QUICK TRIP CAME IN AND IT CHANGED IT. AND MAYBE FOR THE BETTER. SO WE WILL HAVE FUTURE RETAIL SURROUNDING THIS, MAKING IT MORE WALKABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE HIGH RENT, UH, UH, AND, AND DESIRABLE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT ARE EVERY BIT AS DESIRABLE FOR CITIES AS THEY COMPETE, UH, IN, IN THE OPEN MARKET. SO, UH, THIS IS A SITE THAT SHOULD WIN RENT WELL, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE GOOD ACCESS AND WE CAN BE SEEN. UH, SO THIS SHOULD BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, AT LEAST IS UP QUICKLY. SO WE'RE AROUND 30 UNITS OR SO PER ACRE, WE'RE MEETING THE PARKING STANDARDS EITHER FROM COVERED PARKING OR INSIDE GARAGE PARKING, UH, WITH TUCKER UNDER. SO I THINK THIS IS VERY, YOU KNOW, MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER MULTI-FAMILY REQUESTS THAT WE'VE DONE AND OTHERS HAVE DONE HERE. WE HAVE FOUR STORY ELEVATOR SERVED BUILDINGS. SO YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THERE'S SOME EXCHANGE IN HEIGHT. THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT PROVIDES A MUCH BETTER QUALITY AND HIGHER TAX PROPERTY THEN WOULD ONE THAT IS NOT, AND WE'RE MUCH FURTHER AWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY. AND I THINK STAFF HAS SHOWN YOU IN YOUR PACKET, THAT THAT PERSON IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR REQUEST, AND WE'RE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, FOR THEM ON, ON THEIR SITE. BUT THERE'S A LETTER IN FAVOR. SO, UH, THIS, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE CAN REVIEW IT, UH, 21 TREES ALONG BOB TOWN, AND WE'RE DOING MORE TREES INSIDE, UH, THE PARKING AREA. SO WHO ARE OUR RENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE, I TEND TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO GROUPS. AND I THINK THE FIRST GROUP IS PRETTY EASY TO IDENTIFY THEY'RE YOUNGER PROFESSIONALS, BUT IT'S THAT SECOND GROUP THAT'S REALLY SO IMPORTANT. THE FASTEST GROWING GROUP OF RENTERS IS, WELL, LARGELY YOU GUYS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS BOTH LIVE IN RENTALS NOW. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I WITH A HIGH SCHOOL OR A NEARLY A HIGH SCHOOL ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE TO MAINTAIN A POOL AND A YARD AND THESE THINGS, BUT THE FASTEST GROUP OF, OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS, UBER FASTEST GROWING, UBER USERS, BOTH FOOD DELIVERY AND, UH, UH, RIDERS OR PEOPLE, UH, OVER 55 FASTEST GROUP OF RENTERS, A NEW CATEGORY OVER 55. AND THE SECOND BEST THING ABOUT THIS IS THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HOMEOWNERS AND THEY GET OUT OF THEIR HOME AND THEY GET NEW YOUNG FAMILIES INTO THOSE HOMES AND THEY IMPROVE THOSE HOMES. THEY COME OFF THE TAX ROLLS WHERE THEY'RE KEPT AND GO BACK ON THEM WITH IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS THE WAY TO REALLY REVITALIZE COMMUNITIES. AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT ALL OVER THE METROPLEX WHERE YOU HAD SORTA HAD STAGNANT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE, UH, HAD SEEN DECLINING SCHOOL POPULATIONS. AND THOSE POPULATIONS ARE NOW WAY UP, CAUSE THEY'VE GOT YOUNG FAMILIES. IT'S JUST LIKE A CHURCH. IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUNG FAMILIES IN THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH IS DYING, SAME THING WITH SCHOOLS AND, AND, AND NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S EXCITING. SO WHAT ARE THESE DOORS WORTH? IF YOU LOOK AT YOU ARE RENTERS ARE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 60 2090 6,000 IN ANNUAL EARNINGS. UH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT ALMOST $20,000, WHAT WE CALL LOCAL DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. SO THAT'S GROCERIES, EATING OUT DRINKS, APPAREL, THINGS THAT YOU'D SPEND THE COMMUNITY, NOT YOUR TAXES, NOT YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE, NOT THOSE THINGS, JUST THINGS THAT CAN BE SPENT IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S $4.7 MILLION OF LOCAL DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. WE'LL CREATE SEVEN JOBS WHERE $300,000 WILL BE MORE THAN $15 MILLION IN TAXABLE. SO THAT'S A MILLION AND A HALF IN TAXES. SO IN THE END, THIS IS MORE THAN $6 MILLION ANNUALLY TO THE GOOD WHILE FINDING THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN ALREADY BUY A HOUSE IN GARLAND EITHER THEY DON'T WANT ONE ANYMORE, OR THEY ARE NOT READY TO BUY ONE, OR THEY'RE SAVING UP TO HAVE THAT 20% TO BE ABLE TO PUT DOWN ON A MORTGAGE. BUT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE COMMUNITIES NEED TO CAPTURE IF THEY WANT TO GROW, UH, IN A VERY COMPETITIVE NORTH TEXAS MARKET. SO, UM, UH, AMENITIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RESORT STYLE POOL, ALL SORTS OF THINGS, CORNHOLE, PING PONG, UH, ACTIVITIES, CO-WORK SPACE, A GOLF SIMULATOR MAXWELL TOTALLY HAD TO PUT THAT IN THERE AS THE GOLF GUY. I MEAN THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, HE'S REAL EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, THERE'S LOTS OF GREAT COWORKING AREAS OR SHARING AREAS. UM, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING, I THINK THIS IS THE ROOFTOP DECK. UH, [01:10:01] THIS IS JUST GREAT. AND YOU SAW THESE SPACES GET USED SO MUCH MORE DURING COVID AND NOW AS PEOPLE ARE WORKING AT HOME, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BE IN THOSE SPACES AND MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITIES ARE GETTING SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE OF IT. THEY'RE MUCH MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO, OKAY, SO THE MODIFICATIONS WERE CLOSE, UM, 62 OF THE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE, ONE BEDROOM UNITS MEET THE CITY'S RULES. WE HAVE SOME THAT DON'T, BUT WE'RE FINDING A, WHAT I CALL THIS HGTV GENERATION. YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO GREW UP ON ALL THESE HDTV SHOWS AND THEY CARE A LOT MORE ABOUT, UM, THE QUALITY THAN THE QUANTITY. WHEN I WAS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL GUY, IT WAS ALL ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT WAS KIND OF A MAGIC NUMBER FOR AN APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, IS IF YOU'RE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, IT'S GOOD WHILE NOW. AND MY, MY WIFE IS A FORMER ACADEMIC AND IN COLLEGE ADVISING ALL THESE KIDS ARE SO DEMANDING. LOOK AT WHAT COLLEGE DORMITORIES ARE NOW. THEY'RE NOT DORMITORIES ANYMORE. THEY'RE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE REALLY NICE BATHROOMS. UM, RENTERS ARE VERY SOPHISTICATED IN, THEY'RE MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY, THE FINISH OUT ON THE KITCHEN, THE COUNTERTOPS, THE BATHROOMS THAT CARE A LOT LESS ABOUT THE SIZE, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY KNOW NOT GOING TO BE THERE AS MUCH. AND WHEN I AM, I MAY BE IN THESE SHARED SPACES WITH THE GOLF SIMULATOR IN THIS RESORT POOL. SO I THINK OFTEN DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE WELL THEY'RE IN THAT REAR VIEW MIRROR. IT'S WHAT THINGS USED TO BE. AND IT'S NOT A BAD WAY TO ASSESS THESE. AND I DON'T THINK STAFF, I THINK WE'LL KNOW, NOTICE THIS IS, THIS IS THE WAY THE MARKET'S GOING, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PROVE IT UP. AND, UH, IT'S THERE. SO HIGH, SAME THING. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. THE DENSITY. I DON'T THINK THE 31 OR 32 YEARS THEY GROW. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT DENSE, UM, CAR PORTS WERE MEETING YOUR PARKING STANDARDS. I THINK, UH, WE WERE MAYBE A LITTLE, UM, UH, WERE, Y'ALL CHANGED YOUR RULES A BIT. SO I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE THERE. AND THE LANDSCAPE AREA, YOU REALLY ONLY SEE BOB TOWN AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES ON IT AND IT LOOKS GOOD. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NICE SIDEWALK. WE'RE GOING TO BE CONNECTABLE AND WALKABLE. WE MEET THOSE THINGS. SO THESE ARE JUST PICTURES. WE CAN COME BACK OR ELEVATIONS, AND THEN THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS AS WELL. THIS, A NICE PROJECT IT'S GOING TO READ WELL FROM THE STREETS IT'S GOING TO READ WELL FROM THE HIGHWAY. I LOVE ALL THE CHANGE IN BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, DIFFERENT COLORS AND TEXTURES AND DIFFERENT ROOF PITCHES. IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S ACTIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND HERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THEY'VE DONE. THEY DON'T DO THE SAME PROJECT EVERY TIME THEY TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT UNIQUE IN EACH COMMUNITY THEY'RE IN AND IT WORKS. THEY DO A GOOD JOB ON THE OUTSIDE AND ON THE INSIDE. AND, UM, TO THAT HEIGHT, THEIR CODE ONLY REQUIRES A 66 FOOT SETBACK, BUT WE'RE DOING A HUNDRED. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT RESIDENT WAS VERY PLEASED. PLUS WE'RE PROVIDING SOME LANDSCAPING FOR THEM. HERE'S HER LETTER OF SUPPORT. SO IN CONCLUSION, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK I COVERED THESE, BUT THE QT MODIFIED WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT AREA. UM, THIS IS NOT A RETAIL SITE. UM, EVEN IN AN OLD DAY WHERE PEOPLE DID GO SHOPPING IT, WASN'T A VERY GOOD RETAIL SITE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S LEFT HERE. UH, THIS IS A WAY TO ACTIVATE THE AREA. UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS FOR RETAIL TO COME IN TO HELP SERVE THAT RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE ADDING IN THE RESIDENTIAL IT'S ALREADY THERE. IT'S A GOOD BUFFER. UH, THIS SEEMS REASONABLE AND STAFF WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE. UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AS WELL. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS BY CLIENTS HERE AS IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL YIELD MY TIME. ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU COVERED EVERYTHING, I GUESS, MAN. GREAT. I MAY GET A PASSING GRADE FROM MAXWELL. HE'LL DON'T WORRY. HE'LL WATCH THE FILM. OH, OKAY. W WE WOULD'VE GIVEN HIM A HARDER TIME. YES. ALRIGHTY. UH, LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS OR IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION, MOTION, COMMISSIONER ROSE, AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS. I MOVE, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THEIR REQUEST SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE IS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE ZONING AND THE DETAILED PLAN THAT GOES WITH THAT SAME. ALRIGHTY. ANY DISCUSSION? NOPE. PLEASE VOTE IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. [Items 3C & 3D] [01:15:02] NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ALSO A TWO-PARTER CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF CRAIG EDWARDS, REQUESTING APPROVAL. EXCUSE ME, OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE ON A PROPERTY ZONE COMMUNITY RE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 29 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30, ITEM THREE D CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION CRAIG, A EDWARDS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE ALSO AT 4 29 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30. THE APPLICANT HERE. YEAH, GOOD EVENING. I'M CRAIG EDWARDS. SO I'M THE APPLICANT AND I AM HERE JUST BASICALLY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, THE CASE WAS PRETTY MUCH PRESENTED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO. SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M GOING TO REMAIN HERE. HI. ALRIGHTY. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. ALRIGHT. YOU DID A GOOD JOB PRESENTING, I GUESS. YES. ALRIGHTY. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? WELL, IT'S JUST STAFF LEFT. OH, NO. WE GOT SOMEONE ELSE. NOPE. OH, OKAY. COMMISSIONERS MOTION, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONED DALTON. THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS, GO AHEAD. AND OH, YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? GO AHEAD. NO. NOW WE CAN FLIP A COIN IF ANYBODY'S GOT, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PEARS. AND I BELIEVE I HEARD A SECOND COMMISSION DALTON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED BOTH PARTS OF THE APPLICATION, THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND THE PLAN C NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE AT TWO PASSES. UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STORE, SIR. [3E.Consideration of the application of City of Garland, requesting approval of Planned Development (PD) District for Mixed Uses. This property is located at 6302 Greenbelt Parkway and 6151 Duck Creek Drive (southeast side of Duck Creek Drive and Greenbelt Parkway). (District 4) (File Z 22-25 – Zoning)] ALRIGHTY. THE NEXT ITEM. NEXT ZONING CASE IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY GARLAND REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MIXED USE. AS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 63 0 2 GREENBELT PARKWAY AND 61 51 DUCK CREEK DRIVE. NOW WE WERE BRIEFED ON THIS IN THE BEGINNING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ANOTHER PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING. AND UH, WE ALL MADE SOME COMMENTS ME MORE THAN OTHERS. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN OUR COMMENTS, SCROLL BACK AND LOOK AT OUR WORK SESSION. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE EVERYBODY WITH IT AGAIN. SO I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY, UH, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONERS DISMISSED YOUR CHAIR. UH, UH, YEAH, GO, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE. UH, OR WERE YOU WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION OR TO COMMENT? I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT AND THAT IS GOING BACK TO WHAT OUR CHAIRMAN HAD TO SAY ABOUT. UH, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDS, BUT, UH, UH, I THINK THEY NEED THE APPLICANT TO WHOEVER WHOMEVER NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AS OPPOSED TO APPROVING WHAT THEY WANT, WHERE THEY GET FREE RIDE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. I THINK THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, THEN THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC OUT THERE IN THE PROPOSED PD, WHICH IS TOTALLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE. UH, IT WAS GOING TO BE THAT THE ZONING IS APPROVED IN ANY OF THE DETAILED PLANS WOULD BE THROUGH STAFF APPROVAL AND IS CUSTOMARILY TAKEN TO THE PLAN COMMISSION IN CITY COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONER ROSES, UH, STATING THAT HE WOULD PREFER THAT IT GOES BACK THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. AND THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PASS THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO SAVING BY VARIOUS COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING OUR CHAIRMAN AND TO REQUEST THAT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND REQUIRE ANY PDS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN LIEU OF BEING HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY. I HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOUR BUTTON IS ALIVE. DID YOU WANT TO NOPE. OKAY. THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, YOUR MOTION IS TO INCLUDE THE FACT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL. THEN I [01:20:01] WOULD SECOND IT, OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE PD FOR THE MIXED USES, WITH THE PROVISION THAT ONE OF THE CHANGES BE THAT FUTURE DETAILED PLANS COME BACK THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF PLAN COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT, UH, SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY COUNSELOR VIEW THE COMMENTS MADE EARLIER. EXACTLY. ALRIGHTY. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? I WILL TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOWN THERE IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT CAN GET DONE THAT WAY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. ALRIGHTY. THERE'S NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. OH, I'M SORRY. I FORGOT TO ASK IN THE AUDIENCE. LET'S BACK THIS UP. I'M SORRY. WELL, COME ON, COME ON DOWN. I ASKED ON EVERY CASE EXCEPT THIS ONE. I'M SORRY. SO I'VE RECEIVED THE PLANS. MY NAME'S ALICIA FRY AND I'M THE CEO OF JONATHAN'S PLACE. AND WE OWN THE 29 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DARK. AND I JUST I'VE SEEN THE PLANS. I THINK THEY'RE AMAZING. I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT I'M MADE AWARE OF EVERY WHAT'S GOING ON. EVERY STEP OF THE WAY I HAVE ABUSED CHILDREN IN THOSE COTTAGES. I HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHO WAS AROUND. OUR CHILDREN WERE ALREADY DEALING WITH HOMELESS ON OUR PROPERTY AND DOING DRUGS OUT THERE. SO I, YOU KNOW, I RECEIVED THE EMAIL, BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY TYPE OF NOTIFICATION OF A MEETING TAKING PLACE, WHICH IS MY FAULT. AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I AM A PART OF THOSE, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO PUT A FACE WITH THE AGENCY THAT OWNS THE 29 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET. UM, WHEN ALL OF THIS STARTS TO TAKE PLACE, CAN I GET YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? YOU CAN. MY ADDRESS IS 665 DUCK CREEK DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS 75, 0 4 3, A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE MOTION, UH, THE AMENDMENT THAT THEY PROPOSED WOULD REQUIRE THAT PEOPLE BE NOTIFIED WHEN A DETAILED PLAN COMES THROUGH VERSUS BEFORE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY, UH, COMPLAINTS THAT THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T KNOW AND STAKEHOLDERS LIKE YOURSELF WOULD KNOW. SO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE AGENDAS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN EVEN GET ON A MAILING LIST FROM STAFF HERE TO FIND OUT WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING ON. FANTASTIC. I WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THAT UNLESS THERE'S SOMEBODY HIDING BEHIND THE COLUMN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE KNEW WHO I SHOULD'VE CALLED? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND A SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER ROSE. I THINK, UH, ANYBODY NEEDS A MOTION RESTATED. NOPE. ALRIGHTY. SINCE THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, LET'S TRY IT AGAIN. YEAH, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN AND I APOLOGIZE FOR OVERLOOKING YOU THERE. ALRIGHTY. LAST [4A. Consider amending Article 4, “Zoning Districts,” of Chapter 2, “Zoning Regulations;” Division 2, “Land Use Matrix,” of Article 5, Chapter 2, of the Garland Development Code; and the Official Zoning Map of the City of Garland, Texas.] ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM. CONSIDER AMENDING ARTICLE FOUR, ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE CHAPTER TWO ZONING REGULATIONS, DIVISION TWO LAND USE MATRIX OF ARTICLE FIVE, CHAPTER TWO OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS. I KNOW THAT EXPLICITLY EXPLAINS THE WHOLE THING, BUT ACTUALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU SAW IT HERE TONIGHT. THE APARTMENT REQUESTS HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH FOR MORE DENSITY AND UH, TALLER BUILDINGS. SO THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE SPLIT INTO MULTI-FAMILY ONE AND MULTI-FAMILY TWO WITH DIFFERENT DENSITIES AND DIFFERENT HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT'S HAPPENING. OKAY. SINCE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR COMMENTS, SCROLL BACK TO THE WORK SESSION, GENERAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE AMENDING THE ARTICLE FOR SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OTTO. ANY DISCUSSION? I DON'T THINK I CAN VOTE THIS COMPUTER. OKAY. IN THIS CASE, WE'LL DO A HAND VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. LET, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JUNE 27TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.