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          GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE JUNE 20TH 2022 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST ITEM. EXCUSE ME. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS, UH, COUNCIL I DO HAVE TO FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR B. BUT SINCE THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT INCLUDED WITH THE PACKET, I'M GOING TO HOLD THEIR COMMENTS UNTIL WE GET TO ITEM FOUR B SO THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THEY MAKE COMMENTS. WHAT WE'LL DO IS ONE OF THE PRESENTATION. AH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS. SO UM, AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE SECRETARY. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS. 
          WE HAVE SO FAR CORRECT. ALRIGHT JUST TO ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERED THE CONSENT 
          [2. Consider the Consent Agenda]
AGENDA. THIS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REQUEST FOR ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED OR SEPARATED. NO. NEXT 
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE WRITTEN BRIEFINGS THREE, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          BUDGET AMENDMENT COUNSELOR, ROBIN THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE US TO GET JUST A BRIEF STAFF PRESENTATION. ON THREE. A JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OKAY, OKAY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. ALRIGHT AND THREE. A IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL . ALISON STEADMAN, THE BUDGET DIRECTOR, JOINED BY OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, MATT WATSON, AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WE GAVE THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE MAY RETREAT. WHICH RESULTED IN THE C I P BUDGET AMENDMENT. MM HMM. THE C I P DEBT MODEL IS BASED ON A VARIETY OF ASSUMPTIONS, WHICH ARE MAY OR MAY NOT PROVE TO BE TRUE IN FUTURE YEARS. OUR MODEL CONSIDERS THE FOLLOWING FACTORS TO PREDICT FUTURE FUNDING CAPACITY. THIS WOULD BE THE TAX BASE. INTEREST RATES AND COST ESCALATION. ALL OF THESE HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE DELIVERY OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE 2022 PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE FOR PROPERTY TAX BASE GROWTH IS 7.8% 20 YEAR AVERAGE FOR PROPERTY TAX BASE GROWTH IS 4.2. WE REMAIN CONSERVATIVE IN FUTURE YEARS SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE GROWTH IN THE FUTURE TAX BASE IS SUFFICIENT TO FUND OUR DEBT SERVICE. INTEREST RATES FOR 20 YEAR. BONDS HAVE INCREASED 80% SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2022. THIS HAS AN IMPACT ON THE DEBT SERVICE REPAYMENT FOR EVERY ONE MILLION IN 20 YEAR DEBT ISSUANCE. THE COST INCREASES 211,000. OUR DEBT MODEL UTILIZES AND INTEREST YIELD CURVE THAT ATTEMPTS TO PROTECT FUTURE RATE INCREASES. THE FOLLOWING FACTORS WERE WORKING AGAINST US AND THE EXECUTION OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND WE'RE WHAT SPARKED ARM A RETREAT LAND WAS ADJUSTED IN THE 22 CI PROCESS. BUT WE ARE PROJECTING AN ADDITIONAL INFLATION FACTOR OF 8% PER YEAR ON PROJECTS PROJECTS WITH FUTURE LAND ACQUISITION COMPONENTS. THE CITY HAS NOT EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT INFLATION WITH DESIGN. WE ARE PROJECTING INFLATION OF 3% PER YEAR FOR PROJECTS WITH DESIGN IN THE FUTURE. AND FINALLY, CONSTRUCTION IS BASED ON WHAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING. WENT OUT TO BED AND BASED ON A VARIETY OF INDENTS INDICES USED TO TRY TO PREDICT OUR FUTURE INFLATION BY YEAR. THE 2022 C IP APPROVED 600.7 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. THE REMAINING 2004 BOND PROGRAM IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OVER THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE ARE PROJECTING AN INCREASE OF 126.8 MILLION DUE TO INFLATION OR SCOPE, ADJUSTMENTS AND 
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ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION FOR THE GARLAND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER. THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 141.8 MILLION, OR 24. OF 141.108 AND 3.6 MILLION IS ASSOCIATED WITH COST ESCALATION. 10.6 MILLION IS ASSOCIATED WITH SCOPE. CORRECTION. AND 27.6 MILLION FOR SCOPE EDITION. WE ARE PROPOSING THE FUND 141.8 MILLION WITH 67.4 MILLION IN NEW DEBT CAPACITY FROM MARCH 2022 PROTECTED TAX BASE INCREASE OF 7.8. AND ONE MILLION WITH ONE TIME OPERATING FUNDS. THIS LEAVES A PROJECT SHORTFALL OF 73.4 MILLION THAT HAS TO BE EITHER PUSHED OUT FROM THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. OR ADDRESSED IN SOME OTHER FASHION. AT THE MAY RETREAT STAFF PRESENTED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS USED TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS FOR DELAY. THE FOLLOWING IS OUR CRITERIA. WHAT PHASE IS THE PROJECT? CURRENTLY IN? HAS THE PROJECT STARTED? HOW FAR ALONG THE IMPACT OF PAUSING A PROJECT. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF OUR CONTRACTS OR COMMITMENTS? UM THE LIKELIHOOD OF REWORK AND THEN FINALLY, IS THERE ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE OR CONSTRAINT? DELAYING OR IMPEDING PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT. THE MAY RETREAT STAFF PRESENTED THE FOLLOWING PROPOSAL, UM, OF CHANGES TO THE TWO PROJECTS TO EITHER PROPOSED PUSHING OUT OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN PAST 2028. ELIMINATE ALTOGETHER DUE TO A DUPLICATION OF, UH, PROGRAMS WITH OTHER RESOURCES OR TO BE ADDRESSED IN A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM AND THEN FINALLY, ITEMS TO FIND WITH ONE TIME CASH. THIS WAS OUR SUMMARY OF THE FUNDING REQUIRED GETTING US DOWN TO A NET REMAINING IMPACT OF $0 BY FUNDING 67.4 MILLION WITH NEW DEBT CAPACITY. ONE MILLION WITH ONE TIME OPERATING CASH AND THEN PUSHING OUT THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECTS OR ADDRESSING THEM IN SOME OTHER FASHION. FOLLOWING THE MAY RETREAT, STAFF SAID. WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A SIP BUDGET AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES INTO OUR FORMAL DOCUMENT. THIS AMENDMENT IS SCHEDULED FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION AT TOMORROW'S REGULAR MEETING. JUST TO QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THAT AMENDMENT. UH I HAVE THE LIST OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO 2022, WHICH IS APPROPRIATED BY ORDINANCE. THIS IS ANTICIPATED PROJECT EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR. WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THE PARK. SEE IP BY 439,000. WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THE STREET AND TRANSPORTATION. C I P BY A NET AMOUNT OF 151,000. WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE DRAINAGE. C I P BY APPROXIMATELY 3,000,003 0.1 MILLION WE PROPOSED TO INCREASE THE LIBRARY SIP 2022 APPROPRIATION BY 134,000. WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIP BY AN AMOUNT OF 566,000 WE PROPOSE TO DECREASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 2022 APPROPRIATION BY 555,000. AND FINALLY WE PROPOSED TO DECREASE THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AND TAX SUPPORTED SIPPY BY 397,000. APPROXIMATELY THIS WOULD RESULT IN A NET REDUCTION IN THE 2022 PROJECT EXPENDITURES. OF 2.75 MILLION. ADDITIONALLY AS AN ATTACHMENT TO OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE ARE SUMMARIZING THE CHANGES TO THE SIP MULTIYEAR PLAN. SO AS YOU SEE OUTLINED ARE HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE INCREASE OF 141.8 MILLION BROKEN DOWN BY RESPECTIVE PROJECT AREA. UM A SUMMARY OF OUR PROJECT CHANGES TO ADDRESS THE SHORTFALL OF 73.4 MILLION AND THE UTILIZATION OF ONE TIME OPERATING FUNDS FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE MILLION. AND WE ARE ALSO, UH, JUST DOCUMENTING THE CHANGES TO THESE PROJECTS AS A RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSION IN MAY, ALL OF THESE CHANGES WILL BE INCORPORATED FORMALLY INTO THE 2023 C IP. BUT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CURRENT YEAR APPROPRIATION AT THIS TIME. WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THE COMPUTERS FINALLY, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE STAFF'S WORK ON. ON FIGURING THIS ALL OUT. IT'S 
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FAR MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THINK I'D BE ABLE TO EVER EVEN HOPE TO FIGURE OUT WITH MOVING ALL THE MONEY AND DEALING WITH DEALING WITH ALL THE HEADWINDS THAT WE'VE HAD. ECONOMICALLY I'D LIKE TO MOVE BACK IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE AH, THE ONE THAT SHOWED WHERE WE WERE COMING UP WHERE THE KIND OF THE SUM TOTAL OF THINGS IT HAD THE NOT THAT ONE. BUT THE ONE KEEP GOING BACK TO THE ONE THAT HAD, UH, THE ADDITIONAL REVEREND. THIS ONE'S PERFECT. UM. NEW DEBT CAPACITY. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY UH, SEE IF I CAN ARTICULATE THIS CORRECTLY. BECAUSE OF THE RISING PROPERTY VALUES. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PAYING MORE. IN TAXES. THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY MORE AS PART OF THEIR PROPERTY TAX AND THAT MONEY WILL CREATE NEW DEBT CAPACITY FOR US CORRECT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS OUR PROJECTED GROWTH IN THE TAX BASE . IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY KIND OF TAX RATE INCREASE WE WHEN WE WERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2022 C IP. WE'RE PROJECTING A VERY CONSERVATIVE TAX BASE GROWTH OF 3.5. OUR PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS 7.8% SO THIS IS JUST THE IMPACT OF THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE ESTIMATION. OKAY SO THIS IS SO THIS IS WITHOUT COUNSEL CHANGING TO THE TAX RATE, THE RATE REMAINS THE SAME. BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING. THEY ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE AN INCREASE IN WHAT THEY PAY IN TAXES. IN COUNSEL'S GOING TO COUNCIL HAS TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE RATE EVEN IF WE'RE KEEPING IT THE SAME. CORRECT OK, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS I'VE BEEN CRITICIZED ONLINE AND I'VE GOT SOME BY ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES WHO SUGGEST THAT YOU KNOW TAXES WOULD NOT INCREASE OVER THEIR DEAD BODY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR TO COUNSEL. THAT IF WE IF WE VOTE FOR THIS AND CONSIDER THIS PLAN, WHICH I DO SUPPORT, WE ARE GOING TO BE INCREASING THE TAXES THAT PEOPLE PAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT DUE TO THE TAX BASE GROWTH OKAY? AND THE SP TWO. THE 3.5% CAP IS STRICTLY ON O AND M NOT ON DEBT SERVICING THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE. THIS WON'T APPLY. CORRECT. AH BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RELATIVELY EVEN AT 7.8% INCREASE. I DON'T KNOW IF OFFHAND, WE KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE AVERAGE HOME VALUES ARE IN GARLAND THESE DAYS WHAT THAT WOULD AMOUNT TO, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PARTICULARLY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN SOMEBODY'S TAXABLE. TEXT BILL. MY UNDERSTANDING ROUGHLY THE AVERAGE HOME IS AROUND 216,000 IN THE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, SO THIS WOULD BE A 7.8% INCREASE ON TOP OF THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME ON EXACTLY THAT WOULD WORK OUT TO OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE IS AROUND LIKE 37, A HALF CENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THIS WOULD BE ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO MAYBE 22 CENTS OR SO. I THINK MR BRADFORD HAD KEEP IN MIND THAT A LOT OF A LOT OF THE INCREASE YOU'RE SEEING IS COMING FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO IT'S AH EXISTING EXISTING TAXABLE PROPERTY IS NOT BEARING THE FULL IMPACT OF THIS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. I WAS WATCHING YOUR FINGER HOVER ABOVE THE BUTTONS. WHAT MADE ME LAUGH ? I WASN'T SURE I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. BUT MADDON ALISON REALLY APPRECIATE. SEEING THE PRESENTATION AGAIN AND THE RESPONSES TO COUNCILMAN ARBENZ QUESTION. I HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS SINCE THAT, BUT THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO ME. AND HELPING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED SB TWO. UM I TRIED TO GIVE SOMEONE AN ELEMENTARY VERSION, IF YOU CAN. OF THAT, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION IS VERY HELPFUL, AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION. RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. THAT WILL MOVE US FORWARD TO ITEM THREE B. COVID 19 BRIEFING. ITEM THREE C FIRST STREET BOTTLENECK IMPROVEMENTS EMINENT DOMAIN OMNIBUS RESOLUTION. AND ITEM THREE D BOTTLENECK IMPROVEMENTS 
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PROGRAM IMMINENT DOMAIN CONDEMNATION. OKAY? NOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM FOUR VERBAL 
          [4a. Interviews for Appointment to the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Board]
BRIEFINGS. THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS INTERVIEWS FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT BOARD. I KNOW. TWO OF THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE. I'M NOT SURE IF THE THIRD IS PRESENT OR NOT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, BUT WE WILL TAKE THEM IN THE ORDER THEY WERE LISTED ON THE AGENDA. FIRST UP WILL BE JONATHAN KELLY. AND ALL THE APPLICANTS WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO AH! TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF, ALTHOUGH IF YOU IF YOU'RE SOME IF YOU'RE BEING REAPPOINTED, WE PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHY YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. PLEASURE TO JOIN YOU GUYS. I'M JONATHAN KELLY. I'VE BEEN IN THIS, UH, HAVE SERVED IN THIS CAPACITY. 
          FOR THE DARK BOARD. I'M WRAPPING UP MY THIRD TERM, SO I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AS FAR AS COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVING THREE TERMS, I GUESS I'M WRITING THAT WHEELHOUSE. AH! A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. I'VE I'VE I GREW UP IN GARLAND GST PRODUCT. I THINK MOST OF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT. THERE'S A FEW OF YOU GUYS I HAVEN'T VISITED WITH YET AND ARE LATELY AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD COVID GOING ON OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE I GET BACK OUT AND I'VE STARTED DOING SOME PERSONAL MEETINGS, BUT I HOPE YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE. UM TO REACH OUT AND TAKE CARE OF ANY KIND OF DARK RELATED ISSUES THAT COME UP OR RESPOND TO IF YOU HAVE ANY CITIZENS THAT HAVE SITUATIONS THAT ARISE. I'M HERE FOR THAT. I REALLY SEE THIS AS A CIVIC DUTY . UM THAT I'M SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS THIS COUNCIL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WORKING WITH DART, I STARTED OUT AND GETTING INVOLVED, AND I REALLY SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE SOMETHING LIKE MY GIFTS OR TALENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH AND TO HELP IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO A CIVIC DUTY. I'VE REALLY GROWN TO HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT GOES ON WITH DARK NOW. IT'S A LOT DEEPER AND BROADER THAN I EVER EXPECTED. 
          LOTS OF POLITICS INVOLVED WITH OTHER MEMBER CITIES. BUT I DO FEEL THAT I HAVE A VERY, UH, SOLID VOICE ON THAT THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND VERY INFLUENTIAL, SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES OVER THE TIME THAT I'VE COME ON THE BOARD AND REALLY THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH WITH COVID AND THE CHALLENGES THERE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH VOLUNTARY RETIREMENT PROGRAMS. WE'VE WE'VE REPLACED, UM PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE DIRECT REPORTS OF THE BOARD SINCE MY TENURE AND THAT WE HAVE A NEW CEO, SHE'S FANTASTIC. SHE'S ON BOARD. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S CHALLENGES NUMBER ONE PRIORITY SECURITY. MR. BRADFORD WAS TALKING TO US BEFORE THE MEETING AROUND SOME OF THE SECURITY ISSUES. THERE ARE STILL CHALLENGES THERE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MAKING A PRIORITY. IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A FOCUS IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH CEO CONSTANTLY. SO I'LL STOP THERE AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR KELLY? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR KELLY, FOR IT HAS BEEN SIX YEARS. OKAY. THIS IS MY SECOND DIP IN THE BUCKET, SO YEAH. YEAH BUT FIRST I LIKE TO THINK THANKS FOR BEING ACCESSIBLE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THAT YOU RENTED TO GOAL AND SO FORTH. UM I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I'M GONNA ASK EACH OF THE CANDIDATES THIS QUESTION. RECENTLY THERE IS SOME CONVERSATION. GOING ON, UH, LIGHT RAIL VERSUS BUS SERVICE. AND QUOTE SUBURBAN CITIES. GOVERNANCE KIND OF UNIQUE WHEN THAT TERM SUBURBAN OUR PRIMARY ADULT USES HIS HIS BUS, GROUND TRANSPORTATION THAT BROW BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT EXTENDING LIKE WHERE REAL VERSUS A BUS SERVICE. AH, CAN YOU SHARE UH, HE MIGHT ASKING YOU TO CRYSTAL BALL AND TELL US WHERE THAT PLANE IS GOING TO LAND. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY OBSERVATIONS AT THIS POINT? AS IT RELATES TO GARLAND SPECIFICALLY. AND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE HERE APARTMENT WITH BUSSING IN THAT DEBATE, I'LL TELL YOU, THE BUSSING IS THE BIG BENEFACTOR THAT GARLAND RECEIVES . WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THINK WE'RE NUMBER TWO BEHIND DALLAS. AS FAR AS THE MOST BUS RIDERSHIP. UM. THE BUS NETWORK REDESIGN IS SOMETHING THAT WAS A VERY BIG FOCUS FOR AND BENEFIT FOR GARLAND. WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THE RIDERSHIP VERSUS COVERAGE AND THOSE ELEMENTS THE PLAN WENT INTO PLACE IN JANUARY 
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, AND I KNOW I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SEVERAL TIMES FOR FEEDBACK AROUND, UM ANY EXPERIENCES OR OR FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE ON THE ON THE NETWORK AND I HAVEN'T I REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF NEGATIVE ANYTHING. IT'S PROBABLY MORE POSITIVE, BUT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO RAIL WE REALLY HAVE JUST THE TWO STATIONS. THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INCREASED STATIONS IS VERY LIMITED UNLESS WE WERE TO GAIN MORE, UM RIGHT OF WAYS WHERE WE WOULD PUT RAIL AND I JUST DON'T THAT'S NOT MY FOCUS. I'VE TALKED TO A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR POTENTIALLY ADDING AN INLAND STATION, ADDING ANOTHER STATION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN GARLAND ROWLETT, POTENTIALLY IT'S THAT IS CRYSTAL BALL. THAT'S THAT'S JUST ME TALKING WITH THE VISION OF WHAT WE COULD CONSIDER. BUT THE REAL BENEFIT TO GARLAND IS THE BUS RIDERSHIP . AND I THINK OUR CITIZENS DEPEND ON THAT QUITE A BIT. IT HELPS WITH EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. UM MOBILITY, THE WHOLE THE WHOLE GAMUT. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I SIT. THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. ANY COSMETIC SMITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR KELLY. I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME LEADERSHIP ROLES ON THE BOARD. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHERE YOU MAY BE HEADED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO I CHAIRED THE COMMITTEE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, SO THAT'S JUST THE MOST OBVIOUS AS FAR AS THE LEADERSHIP ROLE ON ON THE DARK BOARD. UM THE WAY THE DARTBOARD GENERALLY WORKS. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, BUT WE ROTATE THE CHAIR ROLE BETWEEN THE SUBURBS AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND IT'S THE BOARD FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW IS MADE UP OF 15 BOARD MEMBERS. EIGHT OF THEM ARE DALLAS. SEVEN OF THEM ARE SUBURBS. THERE ARE FOUR OFFICER POSITIONS ON THE BOARD ASSISTANT SECRETARY SECRETARY VICE CHAIR AND THEN CHAIR OF THE DARTBOARD, UM IT'S GENERALLY A SUCCESSION THAT YOU SEE SO YOU'D SEE THE DOUBT SAY A DALLAS MEMBER CURRENTLY HAS THE CHAIR ROLL. THE VICE CHAIR IS HELD BY A SUBURB. MAYOR SCHLEGEL THAT WAS FROM RICHARDSON. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SECRETARY ROLE, WHICH IS A CITY OF DALLAS PERSON, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT SECRETARY. I WAS APPOINTED ASSISTANT SECRETARY SEVERAL YEARS BACK, AND GENERALLY THE ROTATION IS YOU MOVE FORWARD TO MOVE INTO THE CHAIR ROLE. UH, I MOVED FROM ASSISTANT SECRETARY TO SECRETARY THIS PAST YEAR. I DID NOT MOVE INTO THE VICE CHAIR ROLE. I HAD SOME FAMILY HEALTH ISSUES THAT WERE GOING ON THAT I DEALT WITH. SO THEREFORE I FELT IT BETTER TO STEP ASIDE. HEALTH ISSUES HAVE IMPROVED, AND I AM HOPEFUL THAT I WOULD BE THE CHAIR IN THE NEXT. UH NEXT. SUCCESSION AFTER THE DALLAS PERSON BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY CALL. THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD AND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT. KNOWS THAT ANNUALLY OR IS THAT BY TERM TERMS, SO TWO YEAR TERM AND IT'S ACTUALLY SO, UH MICHELLE WONG KRAUS IS THE CURRENT CHAIR OF DART. SHE IS AH! SHE BECAME THE CHAIR LAST OCTOBER IN OCTOBER. 1ST SO A YEAR FROM OCTOBER IS WHEN WILL APPOINT A NEW PERSON, BUT THIS IS A TWO YEAR TERM, SO THAT'S VERY GOOD. FAREWELL COULD BE THE TERM. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT ONE MORE CALL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? CASINO. THANK YOU, MR KELLY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS MARK ENOCH. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR. LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THAT WHEN JONATHAN HAD TO PULL OUT OF THE LEADERSHIP TRACK, CALLED HIM AS HE'LL TESTIFY AND NOT REALLY TRIED TO CONVINCE HIM OTHERWISE . OBVIOUSLY WE ALL HAVE PERSONAL DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE, BUT YOU HAVE A KEEPER. AND JONATHAN KELLY, BIG TIME KEEPER. HE WILL BE CHAIR OF THE OF THE BOARD. HE HAS A LOT OF CONFIDENCE AND OTHER PEOPLE. HE MAKES THE RIGHT DECISIONS. HE SPEAKS, UH VERY ELOQUENTLY AND MODERATELY AND I THINK HAS A LOT OF RESPECT FOR PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, SO AND ALSO, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE IS NOT A SMALL TASK. IT'S MANDATED. BY THE STATE, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, AND HE'S A VERY STRONG LEADER. SO LET ME JUST DO THAT FIRST. SO SECONDLY, I'M MARKING AND I'VE BEEN ON FOR MORE THAN THREE TERMS. I STARTED OFF IN RALITSA POLITICS MANY MANY YEARS AGO ON THE ON THE PARK BOARD, AND THEN COUNCIL AND THEN MAYOR AND HAVE STAYED THERE. SINCE THEN. MY KIDS ARE ALL GST GRADUATES. AND SO I AM. I'M ACROSS THE BORDER, BUT I'M BASICALLY A GARLAND PERSON. I REPRESENT REALITY GARLAND AND USED TO REPRESENT FARMERS BRANCH. BUT IN THE LAST 9 10 YEARS IT'S BEEN GLENN HEIGHTS. MY FOCUS IS A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND SAFETY AND 
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SECURITY, WHICH IS HEIGHTENED NOW I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHERS RECENTLY AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH FOLKS IN MY OTHER CITIES. AND JUST CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T MAKE A STRONGER PERCEPTION OF SAFETY AND SECURITY WHILE YOU'RE ON THE TRAINS AND BUSSES, OR IT STOPS THAT WILL LOSE RIDERSHIP, AND WE WILL NOT GAIN OUR RIDERSHIP. RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, WITH GAS PRICES WHERE THEY ARE THAT THE NORMAL THOUGHT IS DARK RIDERSHIP SHOULD BE GOING UP TRACKING THAT MORE EXPENSIVE GASOLINE. NOW THAT THE SPIKE HAS BEEN RECENT ENOUGH, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE LONG, LONG HISTORY OF WHAT OUR RIDERSHIP PROJECTIONS WOULD BE BASED ON THAT, BUT I WOULD EXPECT RIDERSHIP TO GO UP. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INSTANCE IN THE PAPER OF SOMEONE BEING MOLESTED OR SOMEONE BEING HARMED EITHER ON OR NEAR A DARK TRAIN IT'S KIND OF LIKE KINDA LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW YOU CAN STOP 100% 99% OF TERRORIST ATTACKS, BUT ONE THAT GETS THROUGH IT'S VERY DAMAGING. AND SO I'M VERY CONCENTRATING, CONCENTRATED ON THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I INTEND TO DO. THE NEXT TWO YEARS. I'VE BEEN BEEN AN ARDENT SUPPORTER OF THAT WE HAD A WE HAD A SURGE IN OFFICERS ON TRAINS ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO. I GUESS IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD SOME EVENTS THAT CAUSED PEOPLE CONCERNS AND WE PUT OFFICERS AND OUR TRAINS EITHER HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS AND THAT YOU CAN'T WALK BETWEEN THEM. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A AN OFFICER OR A FAIR ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND F E O ON EACH CAR, BUT WE DID FOR EACH TRAIN. WE SEARCHED AND WE SAW CONFIDENCE GO UP AND CRIME GO DOWN, AND SO I'LL BE. PUSHING FOR THAT AS WELL. THE NEXT TWO YEARS IF I'M FORTUNATE TO BE REAPPOINTED THE BOARD AND I HAVE BEEN CHAIR OF THE BOARD BEFORE, BUT I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CHAIR AND I STILL LOVE MY ROLE. I STILL LOVE WORKING FOR TRANSPORTATION. AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO THE FUTURE. SO I'D LIKE TO STAY IF I CAN. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MAYOR PRO TIM HEDRICK. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE SHARED LOYALTY BETWEEN GLENN HEIGHTS AND REALITY AND BEING OUR GARLAND APPOINTEE AND TALK A LITTLE ABOUT HOW THAT DYNAMIC WORKS? IF YOU WILL. WE GET YOU INFRACTIONS. THAT'S RIGHT, ACTUALLY, AND IT'S NOT QUITE 8 TO 7 DALLAS TO THE BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE PERCENTAGES. UH I AM ROUGHLY A THIRD. WELL, I'M NOT THIRD. VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF MY VOTE. ASGARD IS GLENN HEIGHTS BECAUSE OF POPULATION. IT'S ALL DIVIDEND BASED ON POPULATION. AND OBVIOUSLY JONATHAN IS YOUR FULL REPRESENTATIVE. AND I'M ABOUT A THIRD REPRESENTATIVE FOR YOU ON THAT. SO YOUR QUESTION IS AN INTERESTING ONE. AND IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. MANY YEARS AGO, FARMERS BRANCH WAS ON A DIFFERENT SPUR OF THE LIGHT RAIL THAT WASN'T BUILT YET AND GARLAND OR OUTLET. WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT SPUR OF THE RAIL THAT WASN'T BUILT YET, AND WE WERE FIGHTING FOR MONEY AND PRIORITIZING AND ALL THAT. THAT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING TIME FOR ME. BUT BUT BUT FRANKLY, IT WENT WELL. I MEAN, I JUST I JUST INSISTED THAT WE KEEP OUR WORD TO THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR US. THERE WERE PROMISES MADE WHEN WE WENT TO THE BALLOT, AND I INSISTED THAT WE GO IN THE ORDER. AND IN THE WAY THAT WE HAD PROMISED PEOPLE AND SURE ENOUGH, WE DID IT AND WE HAD VERY GOOD LEADERS AND ALL THREE OF THOSE CITIES AND THEY UNDERSTOOD AND NOW WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL, UH, BENEFITING BY THAT. GLENN HEIGHTS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS HAS NO RAIL AND FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WILL NOT HAVE RARE. UH FOR THEM . I'M NOT SO MUCH INTERESTED IN IN THE RAIL ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY AND BUSSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PARKING RIGHT THERE. BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE FOR THEM THAT THE SIGNS ARE APPROPRIATE. IT'S A CLEAN FACILITY THERE. IT'S A SAFE FACILITY THERE THAT THEY HAVE. UH ON BEAR ROAD AND FOR EXAMPLE , A COUPLE MONTHS AGO IS DOWN THERE, AND I SAW SOME OF THE SIGNS STANDARDS LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE EITHER TARNISHED OR NEEDED PAINT OR NEEDED CLEANING. I CALLED THE DARK STAFF. IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF PRESSURE. 
          WASHINGTON MAKE THEM WHITE AGAIN. WE'VE GOT SOME SEEDS PLANTED AND THE MAYOR WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY IT LOOKS. SO I ATTENDED TO THAT HERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, OBVIOUSLY, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE RAIL, BUT SINCE RAIL IT AND GARLAND NOW HAVE THEIR RAIL UNLESS. ROCKWALL EVER COMES IN. I MEAN, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE END OF THE LINE THERE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY BEEN AN ISSUE. I MEAN , I HAVEN'T HEARD OF CONFLICTS BETWEEN THOSE CITIES BEFORE. I'M SENSITIVE TO HIM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT THAT'S THE WAY I'VE HANDLED IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SURE. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PROTEIN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? I DID. SO CAN YOU PUT ON YOUR CRYSTAL BALL? HAS A VETERAN OR HARRY. HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO DRESS THAT UP? READ A NUMBER. 
          VERSIONS OF WHERE THAT IS. SO WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW. AND THE REASON I DON'T KNOW IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE PLANNING ON IN THE FUTURE, WE THAT THAT MAY NOT COME TO PASS AGAIN. I MENTIONED JUST THE FACT THAT WITH PRICE PRICE PRICES OF 
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GAS IS SURGING. WE NEED TO SEE AN INCREASE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP. NOW THAT'S AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF COVID. NOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE GOING BACK TO WORK IN OFFICES? I THINK THEY WILL. I THINK THE PENDULUM OF FOLKS STAYING AT HOME WORKING REMOTELY IS IN LARGE PART PASSING. THAT'S JUST MY PREDICTION. NO SMARTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM. IF WE GET BACK TO CENTRALIZED WORK AND MY DAD, I DON'T MEAN DOWNTOWN DALLAS PEOPLE GOING TO A FACILITY IN OFFICE. WE OUGHT TO BE HAVING THE RIDERSHIP GO BACK UP, ESPECIALLY IF GAS STAYS ANYWHERE NEAR FOUR OR $5 A GALLON. OUR NEW PROGRAM WE LAUNCHED IN JANUARY IS DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY THAT. WE HAD A MULTIYEAR STUDY WHERE FOLKS CAME IN AND SAID, LOOK, WE CAN INCREASE RIDERSHIP INCREASE EFFICIENCY IF WE DO CERTAIN THINGS. WE'VE DONE THAT. AND NOW WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THE PROOF IS THE PROOFS IN THE PUDDING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT INCREASED RIDERSHIP THAT WE WANT? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO WHETHER AND JONATHAN MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THE ANSWER OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT BIG REVAMP THAT WE THAT WE LAUNCHED IN JANUARY. WAS SUCCESSFUL. TRULY SUCCESSFUL FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR. I THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF CYCLES AND SEE WHAT COVID DOES. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, THAT IS, WHERE IS THE FOCUS OF THE AGENCY? MORE LIGHT RAIL VERSUS NOT I'VE TALKED TO COUNCILS BEFORE IN THIS ROOM, BUT GALLEY, CAN WE GET THEM ALL HOOKED UP? IS THERE A WAY TO GET A SPUR UP TO THE MALL? SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT UNIMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF GARLAND. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING 40 OR $60 MILLION A MILE, PROBABLY $80 MILLION A MILE FOR LIGHT RAIL. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IS BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT AT MOVING THE PEOPLE WE HAVE AND MOVING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN WITH THE FREQUENCY OF THOSE BUSSES. NOW, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH AND THE REASON I DON'T KNOW IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH FOLKS LIKE YOU. AND CITY OF DALLAS ARE BUSSES IF THEY'RE STUCK BEHIND A VOLKSWAGEN IN THE RIGHT LANE. 
          WHETHER WHETHER IT'S 66 OR IT'S MILLER ROAD. THAT BUS ISN'T GOING TO GO FASTER THAN THOSE TWO PEOPLE IN THAT VOLKSWAGEN BUT WHEN WE HAVE DEDICATED LIGHTS, PERHAPS WE HAVE DEDICATED LINES, WHICH IS A HUGE CITY EXPENSE. AND I'M TRYING TO. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT DARK RIGHT NOW ON THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ASSIST CITIES IN DOING THAT? OR WHEN WE HAVE PRIORITIZED LIGHTING STOP LIGHTS AT THE INTERSECTION, THEN WE CAN START INCREASING OUR EFFICIENCY AND DECREASING TIME BETWEEN STATIONS . I CAN GET TO DFW AIRPORT IN MY CAR. NORMAL AS YOU ALL CAN. FROM THIS AREA. WE CAN BE THERE IN 40 MINUTES. MAYBE IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, IT COULD BE AN HOUR AND 30 BUT PROBABLY NO FASTER THAN 40. SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO GET ON THE TRAIN? GO DOWNTOWN AND THEN HIT ALL THOSE STOPS TO GO OUT THERE TO BE OUT THERE AND HOUR AND 20 MINUTES LATER, BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A RECIPE FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO RIDE IF I CAN GET ON MY CAR AND I CAN DRIVE ACROSS TOWN IN 10 MINUTES, BUT IT TAKES A BUS 20 MINUTES TO DO IT. THAT'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO RIDE THE BUS. SO THE QUICKNESS WITHIN WHICH WE CAN GET PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B IS THE REAL CRITICAL ISSUE AND GETTING OUR RIDERSHIP UP AND I THINK THAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE A PARTNERSHIP ISSUE BETWEEN CITIES. NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AND DART ON HOW WE CAN START INCREASING THE SPEED AT WHICH WE MOVE PEOPLE BETWEEN THOSE POINTS. I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A LONG TERM PROCESS. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. AND WE HAD A THIRD APPLICANT. WE HAVE A THIRD APPLICANT PATRICK SPRING. THERE HE IS. MR SPRING COMING FORWARD. 
          GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF. AND WHAT INTERESTS YOU IN THIS POSITION. OKAY, UM. I'M WAY IN OVER MY HEAD. I DON'T HAVE ANY MANAGEMENT OR LEADERSHIP. CAN YOU SCOOT UP A LITTLE BIT? THAT WAY? YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE FOR US, PLEASE. UM I DON'T HAVE ANY MANAGEMENT OR LEADERSHIP SKILLS . ALL I'VE REALLY GOT, UM, FOR THIS POSITION OF THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN WRITING DART AND MASS TRANSIT IN DALLAS. FOR 35 YEARS , GOING BACK BEFORE DARK BACK TO DALLAS TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND SO. I KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF, UM, USING IT. BECAUSE I USED TO GO EVERYWHERE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH SKILLS FOR DOING THIS POSITION. AND AFTER LISTENING TO THOSE TWO MARVELOUS GUYS, I'M WAY OVER MY HEAD. YEAH. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AT ALL, ALL RIGHT. IS THERE? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR SPRING? COUNCILOR MORE. NO QUESTIONS, MR SPRING, BUT THIS WAY HERE OVER HERE. OVER HERE. 
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WE HERE WE KNOW JUST YEAH. OKAY NO QUESTIONS AT ALL. I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND FOR JUST BEING AVAILABLE. TO POSITION YOURSELF TO LET US SEE YOUTUBE. LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO GET INVOLVED, IF THEY POSITION AVAILS ITSELF TO YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I SEE NOW. AND THAT WAS THAT IS ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS. AND THIS WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA TOMORROW NIGHT FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT. ALRIGHT NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO 
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ITEM FOUR B AND JUST A LITTLE BRIEF EXPLANATION. WE HAVE, UH IN ITEM FOUR B. WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. ONE DEALING WITH FOOD COURTS, ONE DEALING WITH FOOD TRUCKS. UM AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE COURTS FIRST. AND I BELIEVE STAFF HAS PROVIDED COPIES OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO FOR BOTH , UM IS KEEP THEM SEPARATE. UM AND SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION EITHER BY COMMITTEE OR STAFF. UM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I HAVE ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS TRUCKS, NOT COURTS. UM, AND THEN, UH, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCIL ACTION FROM THERE. AND. IS THEIR PRESENTATION, OR DO YOU WANT TO OPEN THIS UP? MAYOR PRO TIM THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. YES I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE A REPORT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE COMMITTEE REGARDING MUST CORRECT YOU. IT'S NOT A COURT, BUT WE'RE CALLING IT A MOBILE FOOD UNIT PARK? YES. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT THAT TO MEMORY YET. CAN BLAME THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THAT LANGUAGE. I'M SURE THOSE THOSE WORDS HAVE NOT. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEMORIZE THOSE WORDS YET, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY WORK ON THAT. E FOR SURE. YES, YES. I FOUND THAT EVEN MORE DISTURBING, BUT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. YEAH. ENGINEERING YES. AND SO YOU'RE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS. UNDER THIS IS ON PAGE FOUR OF THE HANDOUT. STAND YES, STARTS ON PAGE FOUR WAYS TO THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING COMING OUT OF OUR COMMITTEE FOR THE MOBILE FOOD UNIT PARK. AND THIS DISTRICT WITH. WE SEE THE NEED FOR THIS AS MORE WE'VE MORE POSSIBILITIES OF DEVELOPMENT OF A FOOD TRUCK SPECIFIC LAND USAGE. AND IN SITTING OR REGULATIONS. WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE STILL DECIDED THAT IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM, A UH, ALL THESE WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN S U P APPROVAL, SO WE'LL STILL HAVE SOME REGULATION THAT COMES THROUGH THE COUNTY COMES THROUGH THE COUNCIL ON APPROVAL. THE WILL, OF COURSE, OF COURSE, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY RESTROOM FACILITIES. OPERATION HOURS AND PARKING ON IMPROVED SURFACES AS WELL AS WASTE CONTAINERS, SO THOSE SIX ITEMS OR THE ITEMS THAT WERE SITTING OUT FOR THESE MOBILE FOOD UNIT PARKS YEAH. AND WE REALLY TRIEDE HAVE IMPOSED ON AND LIGHTLY REGULATE THESE AS POSSIBLE BUT STILL INCLUDE THE S U P MECHANISM FOR COUNCIL REVIEW, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE REGARDING THIS NEW ZONING DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. UH, COUNSELOR ROBIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT. THE NAME REALLY ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE. IT'S REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT, UM THE I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO THIS IS, UM. IS THERE ANY DEFINITION REGARDING WHAT CONSTITUTES A MOBILE FOOD UNIT PARK? I MEAN, IS. YOU KNOW IF I HAVE A DOES IT INCLUDE THINGS YOU DID OR SECONDARY USES? IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE IF I HAVE A FIVE STRIP CENTER AND I WANT AH, I WANT FOOD TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE. DO I NEED. TO DO I NEED TO DO I NEED TO GET IT ALSO QUALIFIED AS A MOBILE FOOD FOOD UNIT PARK. OR IS THAT. AH OR IS THAT OKAY? BECAUSE IT'S A SECONDARY SECONDARY USE TYPE THING. THIS IS FOR PRIMARY USE ONLY SO ■I KNEW LAND USAGE THE PRIMARY USES SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS. THERE'S NO SECONDARY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. OKAY SO IF I WAS SO 
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VIA A RAW PIECE OF LAND, I'M LIKE I AM GOING TO MAKE A PLACE FOR FOOD TRUCKS, AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING IT'S GOING TO BE. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE INTENTION BEHIND THIS NEW ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY, SO IF I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW TO ANY OTHER THING THAT'S ALREADY WHAT I MEAN ANY OF THE OTHER, MANY PLACES WHERE FOOD TRUCKS CURRENTLY COULD BE. IF THEY WANTED THIS DESIGNATION, THEY'D HAVE TO BE REZONED TO THIS DESIGNATION FROM WHATEVER THE EXISTING USES. 
          OKAY, BUT IF THEY HAVE A IF THEY HAVE SOME OTHER PRIMARY USE. AS SOME OTHER THING THAT'S NOT REGULATED BY THIS. IT'S NOT REGULATED BY THIS. THEY WOULD THAT THERE WOULD COME I GUESS. 
          PERHAPS POSSIBLY UNDER THE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER LATER, BUT BUT THAT'S NOT THIS. IS THAT MR CITY ATTORNEY? I SEE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE YOU GO ON THE RECORD. AND ON CAMERA. I'M GOOD LIKE THAT. YES THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS JUST FOR PRIMARY USES NOT SECONDARY USES JUST A PRIMARY DEDICATED USE AS THIS PIECE OF LAND IS A FOOD TRUCK COURT, AS OPPOSED TO IT IS SOME OTHER THING WHERE IT'S A CHURCH PARKING LOT. IT'S A WHEREVER FOOD TRUCKS MAY THAT'S CORRECT AND JUST POP ON RECORD. I ALSO DID NOT COME UP WITH THAT NAME. 
          JUST SO WHILE I'M ON THE RECORD ON THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT SO BASICALLY, NO ONE'S GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MF UP. WELL IT WAS JUST WOULDN'T BE DISCREET IF I DROP NAMES, BUT IT'S BILL FARREN IS WHAT RHYMES WITH AH, UM. UH, ON THAT NOTE. I'M MILDLY SPEECHLESS WITH WE'RE GETTING WITH, UM UH, ON THE RESTROOM FACILITIES. UM. DOES IT NEED TO BE TOO? SO IS THIS LIKE IT NEEDS TO HAVE ONE RESTROOM FOR MEN? ONE RESTROOM FOR WOMEN? CAN WE GET AWAY WITH IT? HAVE UNISEX. IF YOU WISH. IT'S I'M NOT HUNG UP ON THAT, SO IT'S CERTAINLY COULD BE DISCUSSED AND REVISED BY THE COUNCIL. I'M JUST THINKING I WOULD SUPPORT JUST ONE UNISEX WOULD PROBABLY BE UH HUH. WOULD BE FINE ON THAT I DO THINK OF IT'S THAT'S THE SPECIFIC USE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD THAT. BUT I THINK ONE UNISEX WOULD PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT. BUT I THOUGHT THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THAT'S ALSO WHY WE HAVE THE SPP. YOU SO WITH THIS WE SPECIFICALLY DON'T REGULATE THE NUMBER OF MOBILE FOOD UNITS THAT ARE IN THIS SO IT COULD BE ONE. IT COULD BE. 20 IT COULD BE 50. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE S U. P PROCESS IN PLACE TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE NOT WE THINK THERE'S SUFFICIENT RESTROOM FACILITIES FOR THAT OR NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUIT? CANCER. SMITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK QUESTION, AND THIS IS DUE TO MY OWN IGNORANCE AND APOLOGIZE. I NOTICED THAT IT'S KEPT OUT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE COMMUNITY OFFICE, BUT IT'S ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL RETAIL, UH, INFECTION. WHAT'S THAT? I BELIEVE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NEXT ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY A NEW ZONING DISTRICT. THAT IS NOT IN ANY OF THOSE OWNING DISTRICT. GOT IT. 
          THIS IS A STAND ALONE, RIGHT? OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SO QUESTION UNDER, I GUESS THREE I WILL OR THE RESTROOM FACILITY. MUST BE OPERATIONAL FOR MALES AND FEMALES. THAT'S DEPENDING ON HOW YOU READ THAT. IT'S THAT'S SORT OF IS UNISEX RESTROOMS. IT JUST SAYS THEY NEED TO BE OPERATIONAL FOR MALES AND FEMALES. HE DOESN'T SAY THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE FOR MALES AND FEMALES TRACKED, SO THAT'S COVERED. MARRIAGE. 11 POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I THINK THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO CLARIFY FOR YOU'VE GOT IT. OKAY? VERY GOOD. OKAY? ALRIGHT COUNCIL YOU HAVE WE HAVE THE, UH, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US. AH I GUESS THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO ARE WE ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION? UM YES. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. MAYOR. YES I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND I WANT TO SAY WHEN I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THE ACRONYM, BUT I HEARD 
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EVERYTHING BUT THAT BUT I KNEW THIS WAS GOING ON. SO I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL COUNCILMAN AND OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES THAT ALREADY HAD FOOD, FOOD PARKS. AND THEY, UH THEY JARGON TO A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE COUNCIL AND I REACHED OUT TO AND FISCAL AS AN ENGINEER, SO HE CAME UP WITH TERMINOLOGY, BUT BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MENTIONED RESTROOMS. AND THEY PROBABLY LOVE FAULT. EXCUSE ME FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCESS. THEY'VE GOT A VERY SIMILAR ORDINANCE. WHAT THEY'VE GOT OPEN SPACES WHERE THEY AND THE ISSUE P PROCESS. IS EXACTLY AS IS DESCRIBED HERE AND CLOUD ONE OR PARK. AH YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCKS IN DALLAS. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HIM RUNNING ALL OVER DALLAS. THEY ONLY ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT . SO WE'RE IN. WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING CITIES. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, AND WE DID LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND IN DRAFTING THESE REGULATIONS. I KNOW YOU DID. YEAH BUT THIS HACKING HIM, UH, BELONGS TO YOU. OKAY I'LL TAKE IT BUT I BLAME IT ON THE FRISCO COUNCIL. OKAY THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT, MR CITY ATTORNEY IF YOU CAN PREPARE THIS FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION. AND THEN NOW WE WILL. THE OTHER ITEM, WHICH IS CONCERNING FOOD TRUCKS THEMSELVES. IS THERE. THERE WE GO CANCELING MORRIS. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL. I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT COPIES OF THE DRAFT. AND WE. OKAY SO I WANTED TO PUT A SLIDE UP OF THE MATRIX THAT WE USE WITH THE COMMITTEE. THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. JUST LEAVE IT UP THERE SO THAT IT CAN BE REFERENCED. AND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, I WANT TO START WITH, UM WITH SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT IT'S ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCKS, BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS, A NUMBER OF THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS THAT WE HEARD FROM IN COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED REQUESTED A BREAK ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ANNUAL PERMIT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS $500. 
          THE HELL ARE HEALTH PERSONNEL ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE IT IF THERE'S ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THEN JASON AND DIANE CAN BE BACK AT THE NEXT. UM AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION. SO WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS OR DECADES. IN FACT, WE'VE HAD A FOOD EXCELLENT EXCELLENCE AWARDS SYSTEM, WHICH PROVIDES A FREE AH ANNUAL FOOD HEALTH PERMIT FOR THE TOP 5% OF EACH CLASS ON UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS ALL THIS TIME, WHICH WE ONLY JUST JUST DISCOVERED FOOD TRUCKS HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED. FROM THAT PROGRAM SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE WHERE IT SAYS PERMANENT FIXED ESTABLISHMENTS SO IN COMMITTEE OR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE. SO AS TO BRING, UM FOOD TRUCKS INTO THE SAME PROGRAM THAT BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS HAVE ENJOYED FOR DECADES TO ALLOW THE TOP 5. OF FOOD TRUCKS, WHO, UM WHO ARE SCORED IN THE TOP 5% ON UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS TO HAVE A FREE ANNUAL HEALTH PERMIT. SO THAT WAS THE. UM I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE. BUT UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE IS TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE IN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ALREADY READY. AND HAVE THAT GO FORWARD. 
          NOBODY'S HEADS POPPED UP, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH ADDING THAT I THINK IT'S A VERY LOGICAL AMENABLE THING. OKAY? ALRIGHT SO ON TO FOOD TRUCK REGULATIONS, AND I WANT TO START FIRST OF ALL, WE JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT? THIS ISN'T. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FOOD, TRUCK COURTS, OR M F FEW. WHATEVER THEY ARE, UM I BLAME? I BLAME WILL KAREN THERE WE GO. NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT ABOUT CATERING TRUCKS, WHICH ARE TRUCKS THAT DELIVER PREPACKAGED PRE PREPARED FOOD. IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS THAT REQUIRE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, SO IT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S NOT ABOUT. UM THESE THIS IS ABOUT REGULATING MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION TRUCKS. THAT'S TRUCKS WHERE FOOD IS PREPARED OR COOKED ON SITE FROM INGREDIENTS. 
          THAT WAS THE SHORTEST DEFINITION WE CAME UP WITH. SO THE BACKGROUND UM HERE'S HOW WE GOT HERE. UNLIKE MANY OTHER CITIES IN OUR AREA, WE HAD ZERO REGULATIONS IN PLACE PRIOR TO 
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THE PANDEMIC, OTHER THAN REQUIRING AN ANNUAL HEALTH PERMIT. BY THE FAULT STAFF REQUIRED SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS $125 A POP, AND THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR THE DURATION OF THAT EVENT. UM THEY HAVE PRETTY SHORT EXPIRATION DATES IN MANY CASES. SO IN MID 2020, WHICH WAS ALSO AS THE PANDEMIC WAS RAGING, A FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR IN THE CITY RAISED A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BURDEN AND THE PAPERWORK BURDEN REQUIRED. TO DO SERIAL SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS IN ORDER TO OPERATE HIS BUSINESS. SO STAFF TALKED WITH COUNCILMAN FOR THAT DISTRICT AND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL DISTRESS IS A LOOSE DECISION WAS BASICALLY MADE TO MORE OR LESS LET IT GO TO SAY WE'RE GONNA SORT OF CLASSIFY IT AS A KIOSK TRAILER. UM BUT JUST JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE IN BUSINESS , OKAY? AND THAT WORKED. UM BUT THAT BASICALLY MEANT THAT ALL FOOD TRUCKS COMING INTO THE CITY AFTER THAT. UM KIND OF GOT A FREE PASS AND SO IN THE MEANTIME , FOOD TRUCKS WERE PROLIFERATING IN OUR WHOLE REGION, INCLUDING IN GARLAND. SO IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, FOOD TRUCKS IN GARLAND HAVE TRIPLED. IN NUMBER, WHICH IS A GREAT THING, UM BUT BY LATE LAST YEAR IT WAS STARTING TO BE A PROBLEM. THE LACK OF ORGANIZATION THE LACK OF ANY KIND OF FORM FOR THIS WAS STARTING TO BE A PROBLEM. SO CODE WAS GETTING CALLS SAYING IS THIS ALLOWED ABOUT VARIOUS, UM, FOOD TRUCKS THAT WERE PARKED HAPHAZARDLY IN DIFFERENT PLACES OR BACKING UP TRAFFIC? UM THERE WERE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIANS WHO WERE BUYING FROM FOOD TRUCKS OR EATING AT TEMPORARY DINING AREAS THAT WERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MOVING TRAFFIC AND PARKING LOTS. THIS WAS A STAFF CONCERN. SO STAFF WANTED SOME CONCRETE GUIDANCE FROM US AND ASKED FOR IT. THIS WAS REFERRED TO CSC BY COUNCILMAN VERA. SO WHEN IT CAME TO CSC, THIS WAS OUR APPROACH, AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER IT QUICKLY. NUMBER ONE. WE WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE ANY NEW ORDINANCE MESH NEATLY WITH EXISTING ORDINANCES, INCLUDING OUR GDC PARKING REQUIREMENTS. OUR KEY EXISTING KIOSK REQUIREMENTS. RESTROOM REGULATIONS FOR TAKE OUT OR DRIVE THROUGH BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS AND JUST THE GENERAL WAY THAT WE ARE ALREADY ORGANIZED AS A CITY TO DEAL WITH LITTLE COMPONENTS, THAT SORT OF WERE SIMILAR TO THIS BUT NOT IDENTICAL. SO WE WANT. WE ALSO WANTED TO REVIEW EXISTING ORDINANCES AND SURROUNDING CITIES. AND IF YOU GLANCE UP HERE YOU WILL SEE THE MATRIX THAT WE USED. UM WE WANTED TO USE A LIGHT HAND. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE HAD MANY OF OUR FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS HAVE COME INTO GARLAND. THEY WERE USED TO THE ORDINANCES IN ALL OF SURROUNDING CITIES. AND WHEN THEY CAME TO GARLAND, THEY JUST BASICALLY OBEYED OTHER CITIES. ORDINANCES IN COMING HERE. AND THEY WERE GOOD CITIZENS. THEY WERE GOOD BUSINESSES. OKAY AND AS ALWAYS, UH, THAT WAS MANY, BUT NOT ALL. SO WE WANTED IN LOOKING AT DEVELOPING AN ORDINANCE FOR GARLAND. WE WANTED AS BEST WE COULD TO MAKE IT FIT NEATLY OVER. OUR VERY RESPONSIBLE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WHO WERE BENEFITING OUR CITY AND DOING A GREAT JOB TO MAKE IT BE BARELY BARELY NOTICEABLE TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BASICALLY FOLLOWING ALL THIS. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WE CONTACTED GARLAND FOODIES, WHICH I THINK MOST OF US ARE AWARE OF AND ASKED THEM FOR RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS THAT THEY THOUGHT SPECIFICALLY, WE SHOULD INVITE AN INTERVIEW, WHICH WE DID. UM AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR MANY MONTHS AND AS A REMINDER WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE WHEN THIS COMES FOR A DECISION BEFORE COUNCIL WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SO, UM I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF REACH OUT. THIS HAS BEEN , UM, FEATURED PROMINENTLY AND REPEATEDLY AND CIRCLES WITH FOOD TRUCKS, AND I SEE WE HAVE SOME OPERATORS HERE TONIGHT, WHICH I APPRECIATE. SO GOING QUICKLY DOWN. I'LL DIRECT YOU TO THE MATRIX. I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN SORT OF SEE IT. AND IF DO WE HAVE PRINT COPIES AS WELL FOR ANYBODY WHO CAN'T MONITORS IN FRONT OF US? OKAY? GOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO I WANT TO JUST 
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GO QUICKLY. ONE SECOND. OKAY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. SORRY FAVOR AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR LIST, CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHICH OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY IN LAW? BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW. BUT I DON'T RECALL WHICH ONES ARE ALREADY PART OF THE LAW AND WHICH ONES ARE THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO SORRY. HANG ON. LET ME GET YOU BACK IN THE QUEUE HERE. GO AHEAD. THERE YOU GO. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UM YEAH, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT, AND THE FACT IS CURRENTLY IN LAW IS VERY LITTLE HEALTH PERMITS, ANNUAL HEALTH PERMITS AND WRITTEN CONSENT OF OWNER. THOSE ARE THE TWO SO I'LL JUST PUT THOSE OUT UP FRONT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT LAW RIGHT NOW. SO, UM I'M GOING TO JUST RUN ACROSS THIS MATRIX, AND WE CAN WE CAN GO DOWN. THIS ISN'T A VERY LONGER FUSSY DOCUMENT. BUT LET ME GO ACROSS THAT THAT HAS ALL THE ELEMENTS IN HERE AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS SO FIRST ADDITIONAL PERMITS, AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS MISINFORMATION KEEPS SPINNING. I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM THE PROPOSAL FROM CSC DOES NOT INVOLVE ANY ADDITIONAL PERMITS OR FEES FROM FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS. SO THAT WOULD THAT'S JUST THE SAME HEALTH PERMIT ONLY MOVING FORWARD THE TOP 5% IN THE INSPECTIONS WOULD GET A FREE HEALTH PERMIT FOR THE YEAR. THE HOST PROPERTY AND I'M SAYING HOST PROPERTY BEING A PROPERTY WHERE FOOD TRUCKS WOULD COME IN PARK AND DO BUSINESS REGULARLY, NOT AS A SPECIAL EVENT NOT AS A ONE TIME POP UP BUT AS A ROUTINE AND REGULAR PLACE OF DOING BUSINESS, UM THE REQUIREMENT. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CSC IS THAT WE REQUIRE AN AMENDED CEO, THE AMENDED CEO, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE SURVEYS, ENGINEERING STUDIES OR ANYTHING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN LITERALLY BE DRAWN, UM ON ON THE PROVERBIAL BACK OF AN ENVELOPE. UM FOR US, UH, BUSINESS SITE. IT'S A ONE TIME COST OF $46. FOR MULTI SITE PARKING LOT, AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE CALLIE SAIGON MALL AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PARKING LOT DOES NOT HAVE A CEO. OKAY SO SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY HAS A CEO CAN AMEND IT QUICKLY AND EASILY. UM IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CEO LIKE FOR PARKING LOT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A ONE TIME COST OF $260. AND THEY WOULD SIMPLY INDICATE IN BOTH CASES INDICATE THE PARKING SPACES. THAT WOULD BE USED FOR FOOD, TRUCK VENDING AND ANY ON SITE DINING AND THESE WOULD HAVE TO BE PARKING SPACES NOT REQUIRED BY THE GDC SO THESE WOULD BE EXCESS. PARKING SPACES SO THE BUSINESSES WOULD STILL MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS FROM THE GDC WITH THEIR MET MINIMUM NUMBER OF AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES. UM THE JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE GDC KIOSK REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME THING AND AMENDED CEO WITH THAT IT'S A MAXIMUM OF THREE KIOSKS. AND IN ADDITION, HEALING SPACES ARE REQUIRED. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN EXISTENCE FOR KIOSKS, WHICH ARE NOT FOOD TRUCKS. BUT THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING ALONG THE SAME LINES, WHICH IS WHY REFERENCES UM NOT NOTED ON THIS DRAFT, AND THIS WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT WHEN IT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SIX MONTHS FROM PASSAGE TO GIVE HOST SITES. AMPLE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT THIS TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT IT TO GO IN AND GET THEIR AMENDED CEO. UM AND THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL RIGHT, UM. ANOTHER THING IS SECONDARY LAND USE. IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT FOR THIS ORDINANCE, THESE WOULD ALL BE SECONDARY USES. IF IT'S A PRIMARY USE, IT NEEDS TO BE A FOOD TRUCK COURT. WHICH WE ARE MAKING A WAY TO DO. AH, RESTROOMS. WITH YOU CAN LOOK DOWN HERE. EVERYBODY. WITH TRUCK FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCES. EVERYBODY REQUIRES RESTROOMS OF SOME KIND ON SOME LEVEL WITHIN SOME DISTANCE. SO WHAT WE LANDED ON WAS THAT IF AN OPERATOR ELECTS TO PROVIDE ON SITE DINING, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY PUT OUT TEMPORARY TABLES AND CHAIRS. IT MUST BE WITHIN 500 FT OF AN OPEN, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PERMANENT RESTROOM. IN OTHER WORDS, NOT PORTA POTTIES. WE DO NOT WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE INSTALLATION OF PUERTO PARTIES ALL OVER THE CITY. UM THE BASIS FOR THIS IS IN THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. AND THIS WAS WE FOUND THIS KIND OF INTERESTING IN THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. I WAS SPECIFICALLY 
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EXPLORING. I HAVE MANY SHACKS IN MY DISTRICT. WE'VE GOT SCOOTERS . WE'VE GOT BURGER STREET. THOSE ARE FOOD TRUCK LIKE BUSINESSES THAT YOU EITHER WALK UP TO OR DRIVE THROUGH. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ON SITE RESTAURANT RESTROOMS OR HAVE RESTROOMS WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA. 
          SO THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT TO YOU QUICKLY, IT SAYS CUSTOMERS, PATRONS AND VISITORS SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH PUBLIC TOILET FACILITIES AND STRUCTURES AND TENANT SPACES INTENDED FOR PUBLIC UTILIZATION. PUBLIC TOILET FACILITIES SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED IN OPEN OR ENCLOSED PARKING GARAGES WHERE THERE ARE NO PARKING ATTENDANTS OR STRUCTURES AND TENANT SPACES. HERE IT IS. INTENDED FOR QUICK TRANSACTIONS, INCLUDING TAKE OUT, PICK UP AND DROP OFF. HAVING A PUBLIC ACCESS AREA LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 300 SQUARE FEET. WE THOUGHT IT WAS FAIR TO SAY FOR OUR FOOD TRUCKS THAT OPERATE AS MANY DO WHERE THEY DON'T EVER PUT OUT TABLES AND CHAIRS, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE FAIR TO NOT REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A RESTROOM FACILITY WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE, WHATEVER DISTANCE THAT MIGHT BE, AND AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'LL SEE IT RANGES REQUIREMENTS RANGE FROM, UH 200 FT TO 1000 FT. SO WE CHOSE 500 JUST AS A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. UM SO IF A FOOD TRUCK CHOOSES TO PUT OUT TABLES AND CHAIRS THAN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD SAY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A RESTROOM SOMEWHERE THAT'S OPEN, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WITHIN 500 FT. 
          ALRIGHT MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED. UM YOU CAN SEE WE'RE WAY OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY ELSE WITH THIS. WE SAID FIVE AND THE REASON WE GOT 25 WAS LARGELY LOOKING AT HOW FOOD TRUCKS ARE ALREADY OPERATING IN OUR CITY KELLY SAIGON MALL AGAIN. UM THEY HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE ALONG JUPITER, SOMETIMES AS MANY AS FIVE. AND WANTING THIS ORDINANCE TO FIT NEATLY AROUND EXISTING OPERATIONS. UM WE MADE IT THAT AND AGAIN COUNCIL THIS EVERYTHING IN HERE IS UP. FOR TWEAKING IF SOMEBODY LIKES LESS THAN THAT, WE COULD DO THAT, UM BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING OUT, UM ON SITE DINING. WE SAID IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. AND IF THERE IS ON SITE DINING PROVIDED BY THE FOOD TRUCK, IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN 500 FT OF AN OPEN RESTROOM. HOURS UH , WE ARE RECOMMENDING SEVEN AM TO 11 PM AND AGAIN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATRIX, YOU'LL SEE, UM THERE ARE A RANGE OF DIFFERENT TIMES. THIS WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION. IF UM IF SOMEBODY ELSE TAKES, UM YOU KNOW, EXCEPTION TO THAT IT CAN ALSO BE TWEAKED. UM ZONING LIMITATION. HERE IS THE OTHER THING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS DRAFT AND FOR SOME REASON, WHAT'S NOT, THIS WAS A DECISION WE MADE EARLY ON AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE MATRIX. UM THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN A NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT FOOD TRUCKS CAN NEVER BE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IT MEANS THAT THOSE OCCASIONS OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND THAT'S ALREADY PRETTY MUCH THE WAY WE'RE OPERATING NOW, BUT FOR AN ONGOING PRESENCE OF FOOD TRUCKS IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE MAKE IT IN A NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH AGAIN IS VERY TYPICAL. OF ALL THE CITIES AROUND US. SO. UM MAYOR THAT IS THE BASIC PICTURE AND I WILL BE GLAD. EITHER. HAVE YOU GO DOWN OR AMIGO DOWN THE DIFFERENT? UM PARTS OF THIS ORDINANCE AS IT APPEARS. AND WE CAN THUMB UP OR THUMB DOWN. WHATEVER IS. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT STEP. THANK YOU. OH, OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARING BEEPING. WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, OUR MINDS SPEAKERS THAT YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE. UH. TO MAKE YOUR STATEMENT. UM AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS THIS TIME IS NOT INTENDED FOR THE COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS I SHOULD SAY, BUT TO TRY TO TAKE SOME, UH TO TRY TO TAKE SOME INPUT FROM YOU ON THAT . SO WHEN YOU COME UP IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE FIRST IS NICK FIVE, ASH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME 
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MY NAME IS NICK. FIVE. ASH LIMIT. 62 OH, TWO. LENNOX, SLING GARLAND, TEXAS AND BUBBLE 43. SO MY WIFE AND I OWN AND OPERATE KONA ICE NORTH GARLAND. WE CHOSE THAT AREA BECAUSE, UH, OF THE SOCCER FIELDS THERE, ACTUALLY. AND OUR SONS, YOU KNOW, GREW UP ON THE SOCCER FIELD. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED. BUT NOW WE HAVE FOUR TRUCKS. WE HAVE FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE ZIP CODES IN GARLAND. SO WE'RE HERE TO STAY. MY ONLY COMMENTS ARE THE ONLY PART THAT I BELIEVE I'M OPPOSED TO IS THE DISTANCE FROM BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS. I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THAT BRIEFLY PREVIOUSLY IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS UH, BUT. THAT WOULD AFFECT MY BUSINESS ADVERSELY. IN TERMS OF ASKING THOSE OTHER BUSINESSES OR RESTAURANTS FOR PERMISSION. BUT I DID SPEAK TO MISS MORRIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I DID SPEAK TO MISS MORRIS EARLIER AND SHE SAID THAT MOMENT MAY NOT APPLY TO US SINCE IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A PERMANENT THING. WE DO EVENTS. 
          AND THE PREVIOUS EXAMPLE WAS WE WERE REQUESTED TO COME OUT FOR A SMILE. SMILEY TOOTH DENTISTRY. 
          AND. NO, I'M SORRY. IT'S MAGIC MAGIC TOOTH. AND SMILE MAGIC. YEAH SMILE MAGIC AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THERE'S A MEXICAN RESTAURANT. SO WE WERE OUT THERE GIVING OUT SNOW CONES TO, UM. 
          THEIR CUSTOMERS, AND THAT WAS A PAID EVENT FOR US, AND IT'S SHORT TERM AN HOUR OR TWO, POSSIBLY, AND THEN WE LEAVE. AND SO ACCORDING TO THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE RESTAURANT RIGHT NEXT DOOR FOR PERMISSION, WRITTEN PERMISSION AND EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT, INCLUDING THE WATER BURGER RIGHT BEHIND IT AND THAT SORT OF THING AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S NECESSARY OR FAIR. UM SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST THAT PART OF IT. THE REST OF IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. THE BATHROOMS DON'T AFFECT ME. WE NEVER PUT OUT TABLES. AS MISS MORRIS STATED, WERE THEY? IT'S BASICALLY TAKE OUT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. ON THAT ISSUE. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER BEFORE HE GETS UP AND RUNS OFF? CANCEL ANY MORRIS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, NICK. AND I APOLOGIZE COUNCIL THAT I JUST COMPLETELY SKIPPED THE LAST POINT, WHICH WAS DISTANCE FROM BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE CHOSE NOT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON SO THAT CAN BE AH, THAT CAN BE COMPLETELY DELETED OR ADDED SOMETHING INTOE COMMITTEE. I WILL SAY THE COMMITTEE WANTED THE COUNCIL TO, UM TO ADDRESS THAT. JUST A QUICK POINT ON THAT THAT THAT DISTANCE YOU'LL NOTICE APPLIES TO CEOS THAT IS NOT APPLIED. ESPECIALLY USE PERMITS AND SO FOR EVENT PERMIT, SO THAT DISTANCE WOULD NOT APPLY. IF YOU'VE GOT A PERMIT FOR A FOR ONE TIME USE ONLY APPLIES IF YOU GET TO CEO. 
          THAT'S PART OF THAT CEO. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE COMMITTEE LEFT THAT BLANK, SO THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL OF THE WHOLE THING INTERESTED IN AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN. AND UM AND AGAIN REPRESENTING THE COMMITTEE . THE COMMITTEE WANTED THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. TO GIVE A VERDICT ON. DO YOU WANT THAT AT ALL? IF YOU DO WANT IT PICK A DISTANCE OR PICK SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE. 
          THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THAT AND THEIR DISTANCES. VERY WIDELY. UM SO, UM, THAT'S IT. I'M I APOLOGIZE THAT I HAVEN'T NOTES RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I SKIPPED OVER THAT ONE. SO THANK YOU, NICK. AND THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE SNOW CONES YESTERDAY AT THE JUNETEENTH. THEY WERE AWESOME. THANKS. OKAY, COUNSELOR, ROBIN I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM THANKS AGAIN FOR COMING DOWN TONIGHT AND CERTAINLY WHAT? AND THANK YOU FOR THE YEAH, THERE'S NO CONES. I GUESS BOTH DAYS RIGHT SATURDAY YEAR AT THE AT THE WORLD WAR, TWO ACTIVATION . AND THEN SUNDAY'S ONCE YOU GUYS WERE BUSY, IT'S VERY WELCOME. UM. JUST YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION THAT FOLKS HAD THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENT IN BRICK AND MORTAR AND THIS AND THAT, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED IN YOUR TRUCKS. IS THAT RIGHT? YES SIR. QUITE A BIT. BUT BALLPARK. FIVE FIGURES, SIX FIGURES PER TRUCK UP. COMMUNITY THESE ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE OPERATIONS. MY UNDERSTANDING THE DRUGS ARE SIX FIGURES EACH AND THEN AND YOU HAVE FOUR OF THEM RIGHT AND THEN AND THEN I GUESS YOU ALSO PROBABLY HAVE FRANCHISE FEES AND OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT. YES SIR. OKAY WON'T BE CLEAR. 
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IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. YES, SIR. QUITE A BIT. UM $600,000 ROUGHLY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. HANG ON. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, NICK. HOW YOU DOING, SIR? THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GIVEN US TONIGHT. AND DID YOU GET THAT? GO TO INVITATION FOR THAT SPOT YOU TEST TALKED ABOUT. WHAT'S THAT? SPOT THAT YOU DID THE STOKHOLM GIVEAWAY AT THE DENTIST PLACE. HE JUST MENTIONED IT. YEAH YEAH, YEAH. YEAH I KNOW IT'S GO TOOTH, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR PREVIOUS INPUT. UH SUPPORTING OUR CHAIR AND TALKING TO THE COMMITTEE. JUST LIKE I SHOULD WE SHARED WITH YOU ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU CAME TO OUR MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU AND YOUR BUSINESS. YOU'RE THE EXPERT. AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, TO GET YOUR INPUT AND YOUR INPUT WAS TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY. AND THIS IS REFLECTIVE LISTENING TO YOU. AND THERE WERE OTHERS WHO PRESENTED THAT SO. AH WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THIS FOR AND I THINK I CAN SAY THIS CHAIR WOULD NOT WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT HAVE WE NOT HAD THE INPUT OF YOU AND OTHER OPERATORS IN THE CITIES. RECENTLY WE HAD AN EVENT YESTERDAY, AND FOOD TRUCKS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS HEAVY ELEMENT INTEGRAL PART OF THIS CITY. AND FOLKS, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT I HEAR FROM THE RECENTLY YOU KNOW, FOLKS, JUST RAVE ABOUT SO YOUR INPUT AND YOUR PARTICIPATION IS IMPORTANT AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. VERY YOUR SERVICE AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR CITY SO WELL, THANK YOU , MR WILLIAMS. WE APPRECIATE THAT. MY WIFE AND I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF EVENTS SO WE CAN DEAL WITH FOOD TRUCKS. AS YOU MENTIONED THE FOOD DRUGS ARE QUITE DYNAMIC PART OF ALL THE CITIES IN THE AREA, SO IT'S JUST GROWING AND GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR THEM. THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MORE TIME. COUNCILOR RIVERA. HOW YOU DOING, NICK? HOW YOU DOING? MR. VERY, UM SO YOU. WHEN YOU GO AND DO AN EVENT. JUST GO TO THAT PARTICULAR PERSON, RIGHT? I MEAN BUSINESS. YES, SIR, USUALLY DOING THE REST FOR THE NEXT GUY NEXT RESTAURANT OR FOR OTHER PEOPLE. JUST FOR THAT PERSON. YES, SIR. I'M THERE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THEM. TAKING CARE OF THAT CUSTOMER IN TERMS OF GIVING OUT , UH, X AND X NUMBER OF SNOW CONES FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS. AND NOTING EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND NOBODY ELSE. I MEAN, WE CAN IF IT'S OKAY FOR THEM, BUT NOT NORMALLY. I DON'T LIKE TO TAKE, UM, LIKE THE WALK UPS WHILE I'M TAKING CARE OF THEM. I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE. I AGREE. AGREE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'VE CLEARED THE Q. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          MAKE SURE I DIDN'T TURN MY OWN MIKE OFF. MY NEXT SPEAKER IS WILL WIN. MR WHEN PEOPLE COME FORWARD. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER IN MY LIFE BECAUSE SOMEONE THAT'S OLDER THAN ME AND MORE POWERFUL THAN I AM, OKAY? I'M THE GUY JUST ORDINARILY COME HERE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT I MEAN, LIKE MY DREAM THAT TO BECOME A BETTER WHO I AM ALWAYS AND RECEIVE A FULL TIME STAY IN THE HOUSING AND SAY TO MYSELF. HEY, LOOK. I DON'T WANT NONE OF THOSE ANYMORE. LET'S DO SOMETHING GO TO COLLEGE FINISHES BE A GOOD MAN OF MY WHO I AM AND I DID IT. 
          LUCKY ENOUGH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, 2000. 21 I BOUGHT A CALL US AND THEN YOU KNOW THEM UP. SOMEONE VENTILATORS THIS MESS IT UP TO A LOT OF THINGS DOING AND I SAY WOKE ALL MY MONEY AND EVERYTHING . I INVEST INTO IT. IT'S MESSED UP. SO LET'S CREATE SOME ALL THE BUSINESS AND I COME UP WITH A FOOD TRUCK PLACES. AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DO GOOD, SOMEBODY HAD TRIED TO STAB YOU AND SAY HEY, THIS ONE DOWN EVERY DAY. EARLY IN THE MORNING. WHEN I PICK UP THE TRASH IN THE MORNING, THIS HAS COME BY YOU ABOUT TO GET SET THEIR PICASSO AND CALL THE SEAT AND DO DIDN'T DO THAT. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ME SO I COULD BE A GOOD MAN. AND NOW IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SAY. PLEASE HELP US GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITY TO DO BUSINESS OUT OF MINORITY. SPEAK BROKEN ENGLISH? NO FAN. NO HOPE. JUST WANT YOU TO A VISIT PERIOD AND I BRING ALL MY DOCUMENTS. I PAY 
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TAXES. I DO EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD TO DO. WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO HELP ME OUT? PLAY? I'M THE ONE BY THE CAR WASH ON A POLO AND JUPITER. IN A TURN IT INTO A INVITED PLAY INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT I MEAN, I DID END UP IN THE PAST. CALL THE CITY OF GARLAND. I MEAN, THE POLICE PLEASE TAKE AWAY THE GUY HAVING SEX. AT THE CAR WAS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. PLEASE HAVE ME JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SAY. NO, SUCH ME DOWN. IT'S HARD FOR ME. THAT'S ALL JUST TO BE CLEAR. YES, I YOU OWN THE PROPERTY, THE FORMER THE FORMER CARWASH CHANCES I PUT UP ALL MY COLLATERAL I BORROW MONEY FROM ARE REVIEWABLE. DO YOU OPERATE A FOOD TRUCK? YES, SIR. THAT'S WHERE I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET PROPERTY OWNER. YOU OPERATE? YES YES, I TRY TO DO THAT. OKAY IN THE MORNING. GO PICK UP THE TRASH DO IT EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. NEVER COULD PLAN AND I VERY THINK VERY THANK YOU FOR MR MAHER, RIGHT TO HELP ME OUT ON THAT. I WILL CORROBORATED. YOU WANT A RESTROOM? I BUILD IT. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY HAVE A RESTROOM. AND YOU WANT A NIGHT FLIGHT. I ALWAYS CUT GRASS. I DO EVERYTHING. JUST LET ME GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BUSINESS. 
          AM I NOT HOW DO I SAY I MIGHT NOT MAKE AND RE MEMORABLE AT CALLIE'S HAVE GOT MORE, BUT I HAVE THE HAVE THE GUTS. OKAY? IT MIGHT NOT BE LATE, BUT I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR YOUR PERFECT ENDING. 
          WHAT EXACTLY WHAT MY TEACHERS SAY, HEY. BE A GOOD STUDENT. ONE DAY YOU CAN BE A ■BETTER WHO I M . I MEAN BETTER THAN YOU ARE NOT RECEIVING FOOD, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. PLEASE GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS FOR YOU HANGING PRO TIM HEDRICK. 
          THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR WYNN. YES SIR. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY FOOD TRUCKS OPERATED THAT APOLLO LOCATION? LUCKY ENOUGH. GOD GAVE ME SIX OF THEM TOTAL. SO ACCORDING TO THIS, THAT IF WE CUT THAT ONE, I CUT MYSELF OFF. IT'S OKAY. NO, NO, NO, IT'S FINE. I'M JUST IF YOU HAVE SIX, THEN WHAT WE HAVE NOW THAT COUNCIL ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO GO. IF WE DON'T CHANGE THIS REGULATION, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO POSSIBLY ELIMINATE THAT A NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE THE REQUIREMENT THERE. UM SEVERAL OTHER CITIES, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAVE NOT FOUND THERE IN THERE. THERE'S NO REGULATION I ASSUME NOT FOUND MEANS IN THEIR ORDINANCE, SO THAT'D BE ONE ITEM I WOULD ENCOURAGE. POSSIBLY ELIMINATE BECAUSE IT'S MR WIN WOULD HAVE TO ELIMINATE ONE OF THE TRUCKS OFF THE LOT THERE. IF THIS AND THEN ALONG AND YOU KNOW THE CITY HAPPY HOUR, WE I MEAN, WE ARE MEAN. AS LONG AS SHE DIDN'T GIVE ME A PURPOSE, AND I DO WHAT YOU GOT TOLD ME DO PERIOD. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR . NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR. 
          THANK THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR WYNN. I SEE. NO, THANK YOU, SIR. YOU DID JUST FINE. YES, SIR. AND COUNCIL. THAT WAS THOSE WERE THE TWO SPEAKERS WE HAD SIGNED UP FOR THIS EVENING. FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, SO HERE'S HERE'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE COME THROUGH THIS AS FAR AS. AS FAR AS REVIEWING IT, UM AND LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL REGULATION. AND I THINK YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE LAST TIME THERE. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS THERE IS SOME RESISTANCE TO SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND. SO I THINK WHAT WE WILL START WITH BEFORE WE MOVE THROUGH THEM IF WE MOVE THROUGH THEM. IS THERE A MAJORITY THAT WANTS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THIS? BUSINESS. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MAJORITY. CATHERINE ROBIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS AT WHAT POINT OR IF YOU WANT TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE WHOLE ENCHILADA THE WHOLE CONCEPT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM LINE BY LINE GOT HIM BY ITEM. ALL RIGHT. AT ALL RIGHT. AND. WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT WITH EACH, UM, IS. DO WE ACCEPT THE ITEM OR THAT AND I'M JUST CALLING HIM ITEMS JUST FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD TO COME UP WITH, UM, AS PRESENTED AS AMENDED OR NOT AT ALL. SO WHETHER THEY'RE STRICKEN FROM, UH STRICKEN FROM. FROM THE POTENTIAL ORDINANCE COUNSELING MORRIS. AH! THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, SINCE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE ITEM THAT IS A BLANK, AND THAT WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS AH ITEM F. UM AND SPEAKING NOT AS A CSC CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ITEM 
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F STRICKEN. WHICH IS THE RESTRICTION ON OPERATION OF A OF A MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION VEHICLE WITHIN X DISTANCE OF A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS. SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE AMEND THAT BY STRIKING THAT ENTIRE ITEM. OKAY? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. I WASN'T SURE WHETHER MR CITY TRAINING BUT I GUESS WE'RE GOING BACK. AND SO I'M I'M GONNA DIVE IN. ON E JUST NOT A D. I GUESS IT'S SEP. SEVEN. I THINK I'M RIGHT 70. WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT. NO LOOK. OKAY, BUT I WANT TO GO . I WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM PIECE BY PIECE. I'M WAY DOWN IN IT. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO IN ORDER THAN I'LL SAVE MY COMMENT UNTIL YOU GET TO THAT, MR OKAY. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THROUGH THEM, WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT REMAINS. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROBIN, YOU'RE BACK IN THE QUEUE. I'M SORRY YOU ARE YOU DONE? I'M DONE FOR NOW. YEAH. CANCER ROBIN POINT I CAN GO THROUGH ITEMS CAN I MEAN I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR PROTOCOL IS SET HERE. I'M JUST GONNA TAKE ONE ITEM. BUT WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH THE FACT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE REGULATING THIS AT ALL. I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK STAFF SOME QUESTIONS. UM BUT I GUESS THAT'S AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIR. UM. SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD THIS FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ANY KIND OF COMPLAINTS AT ALL REGARDING FOOD TRUCKS. UM OR ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK OR WHETHER THEY GOT TO BE PARKED STRAIGHT OR CATTY CORNER 90 DEGREES OR ANYTHING ELSE. AS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PIECES OF IT UM, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT YOU KNOW, IN THIS CITY WE BEG FOR INNOVATION IN ORGANIC GROWTH. AND THEN WHEN IT ARRIVES ON OUR DOORSTEP, WE TRY AND REGULATE IT. AND I JUST I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR ANY OF THESE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS JUST BECAUSE OTHER FOLKS DO IT. UM. 
          DALLAS LOOSENED THEIR RULES IN APRIL. FRISCO IS LOOSENED THEIR RULES, MESQUITA HAS LOOSENED THEIR RULES. AND WE'RE IN A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SUGGESTING AT ALL THAT FOOD TRUCKS OUGHT TO GO ELSEWHERE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THESE FOOD TRUCKS WANT TO COME AND WANT TO KEEP COMING. UM AS FOR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO ONE AT A TIME OR WHATEVER. I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR A CEO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON ANYBODY. TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          IN ORDER TO JUST HAVE A FOOD TRUCK IN THEIR PARKING LOT. 
          HERE THAT THAT SUGGESTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN A HORRIBLE SUGGESTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO IT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD PUT AN ENORMOUS BURDEN FOR SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT AND IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM ANY KIND OF OTHER THING THAT WE DO. 
          WE DON'T GIVE BUSINESSES. OBJECTIONS TO OTHER BUSINESSES. JUST BY FIAT. I AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RESTRICT THAT. UM. AS FOR ON SITE DINING, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT ON SITE DINING CONSISTS OF IS THAT IT HAS IS THAT MR ENGLAND. HAVE WE DEFINED? WHAT ON SITE? DINING IS? IF I STAND IN FRONT OF KONA ICE, EAT MY SNOW CONE. AM I ON SITE DINING? THE IDEA WAS A FEW A FEW PROVIDE. CHAIRS AND TABLES FOR ON SITE. DINING IS THE AS THE VENDOR THEN THAT WOULD BE ON SITE DINING THAT CAN BE THAT LANGUAGE CAN BE TIGHTENED UP. SO IF I PROVIDE A PUB TABLE THAT HAS CONDIMENTS ON IT, AND SOME PEOPLE STAND THERE AND EAT HOT DOGS. IS THAT ON SITE DINING? THAT WOULD BE ONE SIDE DINING, 
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EVEN THOUGH I DON'T EVEN THOUGH I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CONDIMENTS. I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS WE START GETTING INTO LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS TOTALLY UNNECESSARILY, BECAUSE JUST UNNECESSARY REGULATION AND THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY ELSE DOES. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME. UM, HOURS OF OPERATION. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE REALLY PLACES THAT ARE TRYING TO OPERATE OUTSIDE THESE HOURS. MAYBE THEY ARE UM I NOTE THAT THOSE HOURS DON'T MATCH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH WERE 6 TO 11. I WOULD LEAST MINIMUM LIKE THEM TO BE THE SAME. UM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE LATER. 
          THERE IS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING QUITE LIKE GETTING A, UH , GREASY SAUSAGE AND PEPPERS AT THREE IN THE MORNING. AH PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW AFTER YOU'VE BEEN OUT FOR THE EVENING, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE NO LONGER OPEN FOR LATE HOURS. I'D BE FINE, TOO, RESTRICTING THE AREAS WHERE THAT COULD BE, UH, LATER HOURS. LIMITED BY ZONING DISTRICT TO NONRESIDENTIAL IS OKAY ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW. 
          WE HAVE SOME AREAS, PARTICULARLY WHERE THEIR CHURCHES AND OTHER THINGS I KNOW MOST OF THOSE WOULD BE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS, BUT BUT THAT DOES RAISE SOME CONCERN THERE. AND AS FOR SITE PLAN AGAIN, IT'S TO ME. IT'S LIKE I MEAN, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA NITPICK TO THESE PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE, ARE YOU PARKED THIS WAY? ARE YOU PARALLEL? HOW PARALLEL ARE YOU TO THE STREET? SO AGAIN? I JUST THINK YOU KNOW? THAT ALL ALL OF THIS IS UNNECESSARY REGULATION. AND SO I DO NOT WISH TO. CALIFORNIA MY GARLAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OUR I WAS THINKING THAT HOPING HERE IS, SHE SAID. THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS BECAUSE I THINK I JUMPED IN AT SEVEN ON PAGE TWO. AND SO WHAT? I'D LIKE TO DO WHAT I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO WALK US THROUGH THIS. AND WE CAN DISCUSS EACH OF THESE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION. AH I HAVE SAID IT ON EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING. AND IT'S BEEN BACK 234 MONTHS NOW. FIVE MONTHS, MAYBE SIX MONTHS. AND I'VE LISTENED TO INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE HAVE LISTENED TO INPUT FROM THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. OUR TOOTH GUY OVER THERE AND MANY OF HIS CONSTITUENTS. AND I THINK THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THEIR INPUT. UM BOTH BOTH ON THE RECORD AND OFF. UH YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO OUR HEALTH HEALTH FOLKS. I'VE TALKED TO COLD PEOPLE, AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS, COUNSELOR. I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS IN MY DISTRICT. ABOUT THIS AND WHAT AND WHAT? AS I SHARED WITH MANY OF THE FOOD TRUCK HONORS. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SEND QUOTE THE POLICE AFTER THESE FOLKS. IN SAYING THAT AND SO THE THEY THE WHOLE AREA WAS GRAY. IT WAS YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT WHAT? WHAT COULD I COLD PEOPLE DO WHAT? YOU'RE NOT OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT DO KNOW AND EVEN OUR BRICK AND MORTAR MORTAR PLACES, SO WE HAD THIS WE HAD THIS. THIS THIS CLOUD AND NOBODY KNEW WHAT TO DO. YOU JUST WENT OUT AND COMPLAIN. AND SO I THINK. AH THIS IS AN IS AN EFFORT WITH THE INPUT OF THE FOLKS WHO KNOW BEST WITH THE OWNERS, THE FOLKS WHO HAVE HAVE MOST OF STEAK AH, MOST AND MANY OF THEM ATTENDED OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. AND WE TRIED TO LISTEN TO THEM. THIS IS THIS IS I CAN SPEAK. THIS IS NOT DONE IN A VACUUM. WITH SOMEBODY TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOME FROM THE WEST COAST. AND WHERE I AM ON THIS IS LET'S GO THROUGH IT. AND IT'S A IT'S A PLEASURE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE UP OR DOWN, THAT'S OUR PLEASURE. YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PROCESS WORK . LET'S GO THROUGH IT. AND IF THEY ENTER TODAY, THE PLEASURE TO COUNSEL IS NO. WE VOTE AND WE MOVE ON. BUT BUT I THINK THAT THAT THERE HAS AT LEAST BEEN AN EFFORT TO FOLLOW OUR PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT IS THIS COMMITTEE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE? ON COMMITTEES GET STUFF THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT, BUT I THINK I THINK THIS I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR PROCESS WORK. ANYTHING END OF THE DAY. I'M ON LIVE WITH WHATEVER PLEASURE THIS COUNCIL IS BUT I BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS . I THINK THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS HAS BEEN DEEPLY AND UPFRONT INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE HAD THEY NOT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY TONIGHT I DID NOT SUPPORT IT. AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT WITHOUT THOSE FOLKS INPUT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYOR IS THE CITY ATTORNEY LEADERS THROUGH DISCUSSION OF EACH ITEM STRIKE WHAT YOU WANT 
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TO STRIKE AND THEN WE VOTED UP OR DOWN, WHETHER THEY'RE MOVE IT OR NOT, BUT AT LEAST LET'S SET THE PROCESS WORK. ALRIGHT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET US TO. I MEAN, THAT WAS THE POINT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ONE MORE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THESE COUNSELOR RIVERA. YEAH WE'VE BEEN THROUGH. I'VE BEEN WITH BJ AND IN DAY, BRO. FOR ALL THIS MEETING'S ABOUT SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER. WE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN. FROM OTHER PLACES DIDN'T HAVE NO HEALTH DEPARTMENT. NO NOTHING AND WE SEND SOMEBODY TO GO. AND TAKE A LOOK AT HIM. AND ALL WE DID WAS TELL HIM TO MOVE. TO GO BACK OR YOU CAN DO HERE. WELL, WELL. WE WERE TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS TO HAVE. ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE A PERMIT. THAT'S ALL WE WERE TRYING TO DO. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE NOBODY HERE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. BUT NO. OKAY, I'LL TAKE GO FOR THE MOMENT. MR CITY ATTORNEY. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM ONE. AND I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE, UM ITEM SEVEN E IS KIND OF A HINGE PIN BECAUSE IF 70 FAILS, IT TAKES TWO OTHER THINGS WITH IT, SO JUST KNOW THAT THAT THAT IS A PART MIGHT BE EASIER IF I START WITH ITEM SEVEN. ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE SEVEN E IS LIKE I SAY SO, SUBSECTION SEVEN, THE CEO SECTION AND ALL OF ITS SUBPARTS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE SUBPARTS THAT YOU SEE IN 78 THROUGH SEVEN F. ONLY APPLY TO THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. UNLESS THEY'RE INCORPORATED IN THE OTHER SECTIONS ABOVE AND THERE'S ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT. BUT IF SO, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SEVEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE USES, WHERE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY OR TRACT OF LAND WHERE THE OWNER HAS ESTABLISHED A PERMANENT LOCATION IN THE SENSE THAT FOOD TRUCKS ARE THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY. OPERATING AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, I BELIEVE NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COMMITTEE. AS A RESULT OF THAT THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT UM, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE DOING THAT AND MAKING SURE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE NEARBY. ALL THE MARKET PARTICIPANTS NEARBY ARE BEING TREATED IN A FAIR MANNER. AND SO THAT'S HOW YOU REASON THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU GOT SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT YOU GOT, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE SIX ITEMS. NOW SEVEN A UM, UM IS PREMISES SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR US FOR A CEO. UM UNLESS THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS ARE MET IN THE FIRST ONE IS IT HAS TO BE AUTHORIZED BY THE GDC OR OTHER ZONING REGULATION. AND IT CAN ONLY OPERATE AS A SECONDARY USE . AND SO IN OTHER WORDS IN THIS ORDINANCE FOR THE CEO, IT HAS TO BE A SECONDARY USE AND NOT THE PRIMARY USE FOR THE TRACT OF LAND. SEVEN B. UM THE OWNER OF THE PREMISES HAS TO BE THE ONE TO SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP REQUIRED PARKING THAT'S OTHERWISE ALLOWED BY THIS OTHER ALLIES REQUIRED BY THE G. C. AND SO IF YOU HAVE A CONVENIENCE STORE ON A CORNER OF A MAJOR INTERSECTION, AND THERE HAVE 20 REQUIRED PARKING SPACES , AND THEY PRESENT A PLAN THAT TAKES UP FIVE AND THEY'RE SHORT THREE PARKING SPACES. THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILDING OFFICIALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DENY THAT APPLICATION OR HAVE THEM AMEND THEIR APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REQUIRED PARKING MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING SPACES REMAIN ON SITE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, SUBSECTION C ADDRESSES THAT VERY ISSUE AND THEN SUBSECTION D, UM, IS THERE IS NO MORE THAN FIVE DESIGNATED AREAS PER PREMISES FOR THE OPERATION OF MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION VEHICLES. MY RECOLLECTION ON THIS FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT'S A NUMBER THAT UM, UM, WHAT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN BACK TO THE COUNCIL FIVE WAS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN, UM WHAT DIFFERENT CITIES WERE DOING? SOME DID MORE. SOME DEAD LESS AND FIVE WAS KIND OF IN THE IN THE MIDDLE. THERE. AND THEN E. IS THE RESTROOM. UM AND 500. FT IS ALSO WAS ALSO THAT COMPROMISE 
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WAS KIND OF THE MEDIAN. WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING AROUND AND THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO ELECT TO HAVE ON SITE DINING, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT OUT TABLES AND CHAIRS, THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SOME PLACE. WHERE PATRONS CAN WATCH THEIR HANDS AND GO TO THE RESTROOM. 
          UM, AND HAVE THAT ACCESSIBLE ANYTIME THAT UM ON SITE DINING IS BEING PROVIDED. AND OF COURSE , IF IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM UM HOW MANY FEET WITHIN THE BRICK AND MORTAR. THE REASON THAT WAS PUT IN THERE INITIALLY WAS WAS THE COMMITTEE WAS INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT HAD INVESTED IN BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS THAT THEIR UM EXPECTATIONS AND THEIR RIGHTS UPON THAT INVESTOR INVESTMENT OF THAT RESTAURANT THAT THERE WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE THREE FOOD TRUCKS PARKED RIGHT NEXT DOOR. I'M COMPETING WITH THEM. UM WHO MAY NOT HAVE MADE THAT SAME INVESTMENT AND THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, THAT MEANS SOMETHING MAYBE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT INTERESTED IN KEEPING IT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S SUBSECTION C AND SEVEN RATHER THAN JUST REMEMBER SEVEN IS JUST FOR THE CEOS. AND SO THE X. U. P S R S GPS. I'M SORRY. THIS SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THERE'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AND WE'LL START WITH THE TOP. W ONE. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK IN THE CUBE. 
          THIS TIES INTO 17 WELL, SEVEN DESCRIBES YOUR CEO S AND ALSO IN W ONE, BUT MY QUESTION IS TAKE AN EXAMPLE. KELLY SAIGON MALL, MULTIPLE CEOS THERE WHO IS REQUIRED TO PULL THE PERMIT FOR THAT IF YOU HAVE 56 TRUCKS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT. IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WHOEVER OWNS THE PROPERTY AND LEASES THOSE OUT LEASES THE SPACES INSIDE THE MALL OUT WHOEVER THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS. WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PROPERTY WOULD ISSUE THE CEO. BUT THERE'S A C OVER EACH INDIVIDUAL TENANT. CORRECT. 
          THERE IS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TENANT INSIDE THE MALL, THERE'S A CEO AND SO THE CEO WOULD FALL ON THE PROPERTY OWNER ITSELF. WHICH WOULD BE THE OWNER OF THEM ALL. BUT HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE ONE. IF HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE, HE WOULD HAVE TO GET ONE ISSUED. SO IT WOULD BE A SECOND CR ADDITIONAL CEO THAT HAS ONLY A SECONDARY USE. WELL. YEAH POSSIBLY. I MEAN, I CAN'T, I GUESS BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A CEO ISSUED RIGHT? BUT BUT THERE IS IN THAT LIGHT THE BUILDING OFFICIALS SPEAK TO THIS. THERE IS THERE ARE CEOS ISSUE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A BIGGER SEE. I BELIEVE IN THESE AND THEY'RE SMALL AREA. THERE IS THE MALL. NO THERE'S NO PRIMARY CEO AND THEN THE SUB CEOS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL. LEAST BASE. I THINK WE'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT CEOS WE HAVE ON FILE, BUT TYPICALLY AN OCCUPANCY IS GRANTED FOR A STRUCTURE OR PART OF THE STRUCTURE, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE PARKING LOTS AND LAND THAT DO NOT HAVE C O S. BUT THE OWNERSHIP AND THE COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE OWNERSHIP SINCE THEY'RE THE ONE THAT HAS TO DETERMINE THIS. 
          WOULD GET A SEPARATE CEO FOR THE PARKING LOT. LET'S JUST CALL IT THAT FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM SEPARATE FROM THE CEOS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT SPACES AND KEEP IN MIND THAT CEO DOESN'T DESIGNATE THE ZONING NECESSARY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE A SECONDARY ZONING USE WITHOUT IT BEING A SECONDARY CEO USES THAT MAKE SENSE. IT DOES, BUT I MEAN IN CASE THIS TIME FROM THE STRIKING THE CEO REQUIREMENT COMPLETELY IN THAT CASE, BECAUSE THAT TAKES CARE OF YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OWNER IN THE MALL. VERN'S WHO WANTS IT IN ANOTHER WOMAN'S RESTAURANT DOESN'T WANT IT AND YOU GET CONFUSION WITH ALL THE CEOS, AND THEN NOW WE'RE REQUIRING THE OVERARCHING LAND OVER TO GET A ADDITIONAL SEO SEM. I WOULD RECOMMEND A STRIKING THAT WHOLE CEO REQUIREMENT. ITSELF COUNCIL. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT THAT PORTION. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, MORRIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I ATTEMPTED TO GROW OVER THIS IN THE IN THE INITIAL THING. SO KELLY'S LIKEN MALL MICHAEL WYNNE, WHO OWNS THE MALL STRUCTURE, SO WHAT WE DISCOVERED WAS THE PARKING LOT. THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL CEOS FOR EACH BUSINESS IN THE MALL PARKING LOT BELONGS TO MICHAEL. AS DOES THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, HE WOULD HAVE TO GET PAID $260.01 TIME. TO GET A CEO FOR THE PARKING LOT AND NOTE THE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE USED FOR FOOD TRUCKS. 
          UM SAT DOWN WITH THEM WENT OVER THIS AND HE JUST LAUGHED. YEAH I SAID, IS THIS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL TO YOU? AND HE JUST LAUGHED, AND HE SAID NO, SO IT'S NOT OVERLY COMPLEX, AT LEAST HAVING GONE THROUGH ALL THIS. UM IT IS A ONE TIME IT IS A ONE TIME THING. AND YES, THEY CAN DO 
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THAT AND IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, A MULTI SITE AH MALL OR SHOPPING CENTER. THAT IT'S A MATTER OF THE OWNER OF THE OVERALL SITE. NOTING. EXCESS PARKING SPACES PER THE GDC AND SAYING THIS IS WHERE THIS WILL HAPPEN, AND THAT'S THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY JUST ONE QUESTION ABOUT DO WE REQUIRE CEOS FOR ANY PARKING LOTS? YES. FOR ICE. I KNOW WE DO FOR SOME KIOSK. HE ASKED KIOSK. HM? WELL SO I THINK I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING A STRUCTURE THAT WELL, THAT I THINK. WELL YEAH, I THINK THE TERMINOLOGY CEO IS WHAT? WHAT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH. AND I GET I UNDERSTAND WHY UM YOU COULD. YOU COULD CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CALL THIS A YO, YOU CAN CALL IT WHAT WE CALL IT. CALL IT A PERMIT. IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, IT'S A PERMIT TO ALLOW YOU TO OPERATE. ESSENTIALLY, I MEAN, RIGHT MARTIAL PULLS RCO YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR BUSINESS OUT. BUT YOUR QUESTION IS, WE DO REQUIRE PARKING LOTS TO HAVE PORTIONS DIODE. FOR VENDORS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE PARKING LOT. SO FOR ICE MACHINES, SO FOR SO, YES, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR WE DO REQUIRE THAT IN OTHER SITUATIONS IS THAT THE ONLY CASE THAT ICE MACHINES OR THE OTHER I KNOW CHAOS. WE DO. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE THE SCOOTER COFFEE THAT COMES THROUGH THE HEAT, AND WE REQUIRE THOSE CEOS FOR THOSE UM YEAH. REMEMBER THE WATER, WINDMILLS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT REQUIRE IN PARKING LOTS? UM DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER USE ANY OTHER TYPE OF KIOSKS AT ALL THEIR SELF SERVICE KIOSK OF ANY OTHER TYPE THAT WE REQUIRE. I DON'T IMAGINE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY EXIST ANYMORE. NO PHOTO BOOTH PHOTO MATS ANYMORE. UH, US I HAVE REGARDING CEO IS THERE? NO, I'LL LET THE OTHER ITEMS THANK YOU, MR GREG. CATHERINE ROBIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SORRY TO JUMP BACK IN, BUT FEW QUESTIONS DO REQUIRE CEOS FOR STANDALONE ATMS. TECHNICALLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO BELIEVE WE DO. WE DO HAVE NOPE. SORRY. HANG ON. HANG ON. HANG ON. AND WE DO. I THINK WE DO HAVE A PARKING LOT. YOU SO COULD WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH DOWNTOWN, SO I ASSUME THERE ARE SOME PARKING LOTS THAT DO REQUIRE DO THEY REQUIRE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY REQUIRED. IF IT'S ZONED FOR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARKING LOT OR PAID PARKING LOT OR WHATEVER. DO WE HAVE CEOS FOR THAT? I DON'T DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE C O S FOR THAT, UM IS IT WOULD BE A PERMIT MORE THAN I THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD CALL IT A CEO ARE ARE WE GOING TO CAUSE ANY UNDERLYING PROBLEMS? WITH RESPECT TO SPLIT OWNERSHIP OF YOU KNOW A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EASY. 
          A LOT OF THESE PLACES YOU'LL HAVE THE BUILDING IS OWNED BY ONE ENTITY, BUT THE PARKING LOT IT'S OWNED BY A SEPARATE ENTITY, YOU COME DOWN TO HARBOR POINT. THE CITY OF GARLAND ACTUALLY OWNS THAT PARKING LOT, AND SO I MEAN JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE CEO REQUIREMENT THAT WE ALSO START GETTING OURSELVES INTO SOME KIND OF LITIGATION OR OTHER STUFF ABOUT WHO'S GOT THE AUTHORITY TO REQUEST THE C E. O S AND WHATNOT ARE THOSE ANY CONCERNS AT ALL WOULD BE NO MORE OF A CONCERN THAN IT IS FOR ANY ANY SHOPPING CENTER SPACE THAT HAS A COMMON LEASE AND THEN SUB PARTS TO IT WHERE THEY'RE SUB LEASES TO IT. UM YOU DEAL WITH THOSE THEY DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES ALL THE TIME. OKAY THE LIMITED BY ZONING DISTRICT PART WHICH WAS WHICH IS NOT IN THIS ORDINANCE, BUT IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. WOULD THAT BE UNDER THE CEO PORTION? OR WOULD THAT BE JUST GENERALLY? IT DOESN'T MATTER OF FACT, AS I WAS READING BACK THROUGH THIS THIS EVENING AS I WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. UM IT ACTUALLY DOES ADDRESS IT IN SEVEN. A UM, UM, I REMEMBER DRAFTING IT, MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO. UNLESS OTHERWISE EXPECT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY THE GDC OR OTHER ZONING REGULATION, AND THAT WAS PUT IN THERE BECAUSE WITH ANTICIPATING THAT THE OTHER ORDINANCE WAS COMING OUT OF THE OTHER COMMITTEE AND SO THE OTHER ORDINANCE ACTUALLY TELLS YOU WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN, AND IT'S FOR THE CEO, NOT FOR THIS SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS WOULD NOT APPLY THAT WOULDN'T BE OF ZONING REGULATION THAT WOULD PROHIBIT IT. SO THE CEO WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS A FOOD TRUCK COURT DESIGNATION IF IT'S WHETHER NOT NECESSARILY OR OR OTHER ZONING REGULATION, AND SO I BELIEVE THAT IN THAT WE AMEND OUR OTHER ZONING OR AMEND THE LANGUAGE HERE. WE'LL NEED TO JUST TO MAKE 
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SURE THAT IT'S NOT BECAUSE HER WHEN WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THESE WERE SEPARATED FROM THOSE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT THE FOOD TRUCK COURT WAS KIND OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. IT IS OKAY, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS N SAY, AND NOW YOU CAN ONLY HAVE FOOD TRUCKS IN AREAS WHERE IT'S FOR WHERE THERE'S A FOOD TRUCK ZONING PERMITTED, AND THAT WOULD BE AND THAT WOULD NOT THIS WHAT IS WRITTEN EVEN IF YOU KEPT IT AS WRITTEN HERE, WHICH I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE SHOULD WE PROBABLY NEED TO TIGHTEN THAT LANGUAGE UP. WITH WITH YOUR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE YOUR FOOD TRUCK IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A YOUR CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY SEPARATE FROM THAT, RIGHT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE GOOD FOLKS THAT KONA ICE OR FIRE FOR THE LORD OR WHATEVER SHOW UP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTY FOR MY KEYS, YOU KNOW, 10TH BIRTHDAY. WHATEVER THEN. AND THAT'S OKAY. AS LONG AS I GET THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, CORRECT, OKAY? ALL RIGHT . THANK YOU, LIKE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR PRO TEM HEDRICK. UM I THINK THERE ISN'T AN UPSTREAM AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH SEVEN A B C. D E. I OPPOSE THE CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. THANK YOU. HANG UP. 
          KESSLER MORE THANK YOU, MR MIR. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT'S THE SEE HOW HAS BEEN ISSUED TO THE PRIMARY PROPERTY OWNER? EACH INDEPENDENT BUSINESS WITHIN THAT SHOPPING CENTER. AT THAT POINT, HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK? DO THEY GET THAT THROUGH THE OWNER. DO THEY GET THAT THROUGH THE, UM. CODE COMPLIANCE . HOW DO THEY THAT POINT BECAUSE I COULD ALSO SEE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SITUATION WHERE MAYBE ONE BUSINESS DOES NOT WANT THE FOOD TRUCK SITUATION, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT A CONFLICT AND WHO'S GOING TO SETTLE THAT CONFLICT. BUT AT THAT POINT, HOW DID THE INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES BUSINESS ENTITIES GO ABOUT GETTING THE CEO THE SAME WAY AN OUTSIDE ENTITY WHERE THEY WOULD NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE BIT INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES WOULD NOT NEED A CEO? OKAY THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNER AND SO THEY WOULD GO ABOUT. IF THEY WANTED TO USE THE SPACE. THEY WOULD GO ABOUT IT THE SAME WAY AN OUTSIDE ENTITY WOULD COMING IN. THEY WOULDN'T NEGOTIATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER GETS TO USE THOSE SPACES. I SUSPECT THAT IF THIS WERE TO PASS THAT THOSE THOSE SPACE THAT WOULD ALL BE THEY WOULD BE LEASED OUT. UM EITHER MONTHLY OR WEEKLY OR HOWEVER THE PROPERTY IT WOULD BE A REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. THINGS WILL BE INTERNAL. THOSE CONFLICTS OF THE INTERNAL THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. BUT LIKE. YES THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL TIMES AND WE DISCUSSED IN THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE. HERE ON ON CEOS. LET ME GIVE YOU LET ME I CAN BEST PUT IT BACK, IN EXAMPLE. BT FURNISHING IF I'M PROBABLY GONNA ASK RICK INTO THIS WE DISCUSSED IN A TERM WAS THROWING AROUND. WELL IF YOU'VE GOT AN INDEPENDENT FOOD TRUCK OF NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FOOD COURT'S PART, JUST INDEPENDENT IN THE PARKING LOT. YES WE EXIST NOW ON THE CURRENT, OKAY? THEN THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THAT OPERATOR NEED TO GET THE PERMISSION TO TERM PERMISSION, WHICH SHE USED. FROM THE PROPERLY OWNERS. AND IF WE DID AN INSPECTION. THEN THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROOF OF THAT THAT THAT THAT VENDOR FOOD TRUCK VENDOR HAS PERMISSION. FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT, BUT WE USED TO TERM PERMISSION. UH, I THINK THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ORDINANCE WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION AUTHORIZATION. BUT THE CURRENT AUDIENCE DOES NOT SAY SEE. OH, IT SAYS WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, WHERE THAT LEADS ME, THEN. FROM. FOR OUR BUILDING INSPECTION CODE HEALTH STANDPOINT. WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF WE DON'T REQUIRE THE CEO? AND STATUS QUO CONTINUES WITH QUOTE THE PERMISSION PROVISIONS. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? IT STAYS THE WAY IT IS. I MEAN, REALLY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT . THEN THE DIFFICULTY MIGHT BE UM, IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR OR A HEALTH INSPECTOR DRIVING BY A LOCATION AND THEY SEE A FOOD TRUCK OPERATING. THEY MAY NOT KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THAT OFF THE HAND OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER JUST 
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BY DRIVING BY TO BE AT THAT LOCATION, BUT IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE. THE DOWNSIDE IS IF IT IS A DOWNSIDE. UM THAT'S FOR Y'ALL TO DETERMINE IT WOULD BE STATUS QUO. THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOW. OKAY. UH, MR BARKER. DID YOU? YOU VERY, VERY FOR ME WITH WITH WITH WITH WITH WITH OVERNIGHT BEFORE SO USING THE CITY TURNER'S SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF YOUR INSPECTORS IS DRIVING BY THE TRUCKS PARKED THERE WITH THE TRAILER. AND HE'S DRIVING BY AND THEN HE DOES A U TURN AND HE COMES BACK. HE GETS OUT AND HE PULLS UP TALKS TO THE VENDOR. YOU KNOW? AND THE CONVERSATION GOES INTO QUOTE PERMISSION. ON DURING EXISTING ORDINANCE. WHAT. VERSUS REQUIRING THE CEO. YOU'RE SAYING ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT? FOREST STAFF. STATUS QUO, SAYS PERMISSION. AGREE HOW DOES THAT VENDOR THAT FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR SHOW PERMISSION. IT MUST HAVE A LETTER OR SOMETHING. CAN YOU SPEAK BRIEFLY TO WHAT HAPPENS NOW WITH THAT PROVISION. WELL, I'M GONNA THANK YOU, UM. I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PHASE OF IT BECAUSE PART OF THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE TO UNDERSTAND, BUT BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS WE WOULD ASK HER WE WOULD LOOK FOR IS DO THEY HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT? AH AND IF THEY DID NOT HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT AND OBVIOUSLY. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT, WHICH REQUIRES THE WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION. UM NOW GOING. THE STATUS QUO YOU COULD GET INTO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED AT A LOCATION. UM THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING WE WOULD LOOK FOR TO SEE IF THEY HAD A HEALTH PERMIT AND WHICH WOULD COME WITH IT. THE WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION TO BE THERE. NOW IF THEY HAD THE HEALTH PERMIT. AH THEN WE WOULD PRETTY MUCH LEAVE THEM ALONE AS AS WE CURRENTLY DO. SO WE CURRENTLY IF THEY SHOW EVIDENCE OF THE SET OF PIGGYBACKING ON PART OF THE CHAIR, LATEST PRESENTATION IF THEY PRODUCE A HEALTH PERMIT WE DRIVE ON, DON'T WE? BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN ENFORCE AT THAT POINT. OKAY PROVIDING WE DO NOT SEE A YOU DON'T SEE IT. YOU DON'T SEE AN OBVIOUS VIOLATION AND SAFETY IN OBVIOUS HEALTH AND SAFETY VIOLATION. YOU ESSENTIALLY THEY SHOW THAT THEY HAVE THE HEALTH SPECIFIC IT. OUR INSPECTORS DIDN'T GET BACK IN THE IN THE TRUCK AND DRIVE ON CORRECT THE STATUS QUO, RIGHT? AND HOW IS THAT ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT? BUT IN MOST CASES, HOW IS THAT OPERATING? WELL CURRENTLY ARE. AREAS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS. REALLY, THERE'S REALLY NOT A PROBLEM. IT'S REALLY NOT AS LONG AS THEY'VE GOT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE HEALTH PERMIT. AH AS AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. THESE THESE TRUCKS HAVE COME INTO OUR CITY. AND WANTED TO BE A GOOD GOOD BUSINESS OPERATIONS. SO IT HAD REALLY HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM. OKAY OKAY. OKAY OKAY. ALRIGHT THAT'S THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THAT, AND SO THANK YOU, RICK AND I CAN LIVE WITH WITH THEIR STRIKING THIS PICK STONE YOUR INPUT, STRIKING SEVEN AND THAT REQUIRING CEO UH YOU KNOW, I WANT THE BUSINESS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT AS USER FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR COUNCILOR SMITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. HANG ON. HANG ON. HANG ON. HANG ON. GOT THERE YOU GO. LONG STORY. ALRIGHT LET ME TAKE THIS, UH FROM SEVEN F AND WORK BACK. BECAUSE IT MAKES MORE SENSE IN MY HEAD. UM THE FIRST, OF COURSE, IS ITEM SEVEN F AND I WON'T BEAT THIS TO DEATH BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL IN A GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT. THIS IS THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. YOU CAN HAVE FOUR GAS STATIONS, ONE IN EACH CORNER OF AN INTERSECTION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE OTHERS TO BE IN THERE. SO COMPETITIONS, COMPETITION AND IT AND IT NEEDS TO NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY. SO LIKE TO STRIKE. SEVEN F 70 AH! CHAIRWOMAN MORRIS REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESEARCH 
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ON THAT. IT I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND UNTIL COUNCIL MEMBER ROBIN BROUGHT UP THE BURGER STREET EXAMPLE. I THINK I WAS ON BOARD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT FOOD TRUCKS IN RESTAURANTS ON A ON AN UNLEVEL PLAYING FIELD. AND SO I'M INCLINED DISTRICT 70 AS WELL. DNC I THINK ARE KIND OF TIED TOGETHER. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE OVER PARKED IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE SO MUCH OVER PARKED IN OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS. AND I'M SORRY. LET ME REPHRASE THAT. MHM BUT THAT AROUND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AND RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE TOO MUCH PARKING IN COMMERCIAL. THERE WE GO. OKAY GUYS, I'M RUSTY. I'M WORKING ON WORKING ON THIS, UM YOU KNOW IF WE TOOK EVERY FOOD TRUCK IN THE CITY AND STUCK IT IN THE TARGET PARKING LOT AT 1 90 GARLAND ROAD, WE'D STILL HAVE TWICE AS MANY SPACES AS WE NEEDED AND SO I THINK, SETTING A HARD CAP. ON THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED MIGHT MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT APPROACH. BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERY PARKING LOT. ALL PARKING LOTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL. AND THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THAT FRUSTRATES ME WITH OUR STATE GOVERNMENT. WHEN THEY TRY AND TREAT ALL CITIES EQUAL. 
          I DON'T WANT TO TREAT EVERY PARKING LOT AND EVERY BUSINESS LIKE IT HAS THE EXACT SAME LAYOUT. SO I WOULD I WOULD STRIKE D AND I WOULD, UM HOW WOULD STRIKE SEE AS WELL? IF I LOOK AT SEVEN A. I WORRY ABOUT US GOING AND REQUIRING. CEOS AND PERMITS FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP DOING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG WITHOUT REALLY CAUSING A PROBLEM. AND I PROMISED MAYOR. 
          THIS IS MY ONLY FOOD POND. BUT THAT JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, CHARGING IF EVERY FOOD TRUCK EVERY PROPERTY OWNER CAME AND GOT THAT CEO TODAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $7000 COLLECTED AS A ONE TIME EXPENSE. NOW WE'VE WASTED AT LEAST THAT MUCH IN SALARY. JUST SITTING HERE DISCUSSING THIS. 
          AND SO I DON'T SEE. THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS FAR AS ITEMS A AND B GO. I'D WANT TO STRIKE THOSE AND FOR ME THAT KILLS ITEMS SEVEN ALTOGETHER. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. I PROMISE I'LL PUNCH IN MORE LATER. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. AND YEP, FORWARD COUNCIL MEMBER. GIBBONS IS PROBABLY NOT WATCHING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT I'M SURE HE WOULD APPRECIATE THE REFERENCE MORRIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN THE WHOLE POINT. THE CORE OF THE HOST BUSINESS IS DOING A CEO IS SIMPLY TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE REQUIRE THE G D. C S MINIMUM PARKING. OUR KIOSK. AND IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THE LAND USE MATRIX FOR OUR KIOSKS, THEY REQUIRE A SITE PLAN THEY REQUIRE NOT TO USE G D. C REQUIRED SPACES REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRING IN THIS ORDINANCE. SO FOR THE SAKE OF CONSISTENCY, THAT'S HOW WE LANDED THERE. SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE REQUIRING CEOS FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS FOR EACH PLACE THEY OPERATE. THAT'S EXPENSIVE. IT'S FUSSY. IT DOESN'T LET THEM BE FLUID IN MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE, SO BUSINESS IS THE HOST BUSINESSES, FOR THE MOST PART, EARNED MONEY FROM HAVING THEY BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM HAVING FOOD TRUCKS OPERATE ON THEIR PROPERTY AND IN THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE FELT THAT THAT MADE IT APPROPRIATE TO PUT THIS AND IT IS A VERY SMALL ONE TIME EXPENSE TO PUT THAT ON THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS ACTUALLY BENEFITING FINANCIALLY FROM THE PRESENCE OF FOOD TRUCKS. RATHER THAN ADDING ANOTHER COST TO THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS. UM SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE HAVE MINIMUM GDC PARKING REQUIREMENTS IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY FOR KIOSKS, WE REQUIRE A SITE PLAN AND THE KIOSKS. UM THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WITH KIOSKS, AND IT GOES EVERYTHING FROM ICE MACHINES. TO MERCHANDISE AND DROP OFF MATERIALS, UM, TO DRIVE UP. UM HE ASKS, UH 80 M KIOSKS, RECYCLING USE GOOD COLLECTIONS. UM FACILITIES. UM THERE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KIOSK USES . THEY ALL REQUIRE A SITE PLAN THEY ALL REQUIRE, UM NOT BE USING UP MINIMUM GDC SPACES. SO TO ME, THAT WAS, UM THAT WAS NOT AN UNREASONABLE THING RATHER THAN BEING INCONSISTENT. AND GETTING US RIGHT BACK TO WHERE BOTH CODE AND B I EXPRESSED DISTRESS LAST YEAR THAT THIS IS KIND OF, UM LUCY GOOSEY AND DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE, AND, UM NO 
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CLEAR RULES AND EVEN WITH ALL THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS THAT WE HEARD FROM, UM THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK AGAINST THE BASICS OF THIS THE DISTANCE FROM BRICK AND MORTAR THAT GOT PUSHED BACK THE REST OF IT. A LOT OF THEM ACTUALLY LIKED IT BECAUSE THIS EXPOSES, UM, PLACES WHERE FOOD TRUCKS ARE OPERATING ILLEGITIMATELY, AND THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR HARDWORKING FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS WHO ARC ARE REGISTERED PERMITTED. THEY'RE DOING ALL THE THINGS RIGHT AND OTHER PEOPLE SLIDE IN AND DON'T SO ANYWAY, IT IS THE G D. C PARKING REQUIREMENTS CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR OTHER ORDINANCES THAT IS THE BASIS AND CORE OF THE HOST CEO AMENDMENT. REQUIREMENT, SO THAT THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON SEVEN OR ANY OF ITS VARIOUS PARTS. I WILL TELL YOU, UM I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF SEVEN OR ANY OF ITS PARTS. UM I WOULD. I THINK WE'RE CHASING PROBLEMS THAT THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE AND CERTAINLY I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING OTHERS. UM SO BEFORE WE MOVE ANY FURTHER. UM. WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON SEVEN AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE, UH, WHERE ITS VARIOUS PARTS GO, BUT SEVEN AS A WHOLE. UM. OF KEEPING , UH OF EXCUSE ME. MAKE SURE I WORD THIS CORRECTLY, SO EVERYBODY'S THUMBS ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM ITEM SEVEN. UH, OF KEEPING IT AS IS PRESENTED. CHOIR MINT CEO REQUIRING A CEO WITH ALL THE SUB PARTS YOU'RE. YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, SEVEN. SEVEN AS A WHOLE IS ONE. IF SEVEN CONTINUES, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT AMENDING THE A. THE B THE C ETCETERA BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A MOTION OR MENTION OF STRIKING ONE OF THOSE ALREADY. SO UM, THIS FIRST ONE IS A VOTE ON THE WHOLE SEVEN AS A WHOLE BEFORE WE GET TO LOOKING AT AMENDMENTS. YEAH, MR. VERA. 
          I'M GONNA NEED YOU TO VOTE, SIR. DISTANCE ACCEPTING SEVEN AS A WHOLE. NO IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT SEVEN, YOU ARE VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SEVEN AS A WHOLE, NOT SEVEN IS A WHOLE AS SEVEN AS A WHOLE AS IT STANDS IF IT STANDS. WE GO TO AMENDING. THIS IS OKAY. MHM HE'S SAYING SEVEN. 
          YEAH HERE'S HERE'S I THINK YOU'RE THE BEST. IT'S PROBABLY BEST WORDED TO SAY IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF DELETING SEVEN AS A WHOLE ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. THEN GIVE YOUR GIVE YOUR THUMBS UP. 
          IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF DELETING AS A WHOLE. IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN GIVE IT A THUMBS DOWN. THAT WOULD BE MY FAVOR OF DELETING SEVEN AS A WHOLE. THUMBS UP. UP OR DOWN, OKAY, IT'S A WHOLE TO EATING AS A WHOLE. OKAY, SEVEN AS A WHOLE. AND LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT FIVE SO SEVEN AS A WHOLE. IS GONE. NO AMENDMENTS. I WILL TELL YOU. THAT LEAVES US REALLY, BECAUSE THERE'S THE OTHER ONES OTHER THAN FOUR AND SIX FOR AND SIX ARE ONLY THE REALLY THE ONLY NEW AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, AND THAT'S THE ON SITE DINING. IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION. EVERYTHING ELSE, ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT AS PRECISELY AS COVERED IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, AND SO, REALLY, IT'S FOUR AND SIX IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT. CAST MEMBERS SMITH. MAYOR I THINK IT'S REASONABLE FOR US WHEN WE LOOK AT SIX TO AMEND IT TO MATCH OUR, UH FOOD, UH, M F UPS. YES WHATEVER. THAT. I THINK THAT WAS SIX A.M. TO 11 P.M. AND I THINK THAT'S A PERFECTLY REASONABLE STEP. AMENDS SIX TO MATCH. THE. WHATEVER YEAH, YES, THE 6 TO 11. YES OKAY. YEAH. 
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MODIFYING THAT FROM SEVEN A.M. TO 11. PM TO SIX AM TO 11 PM MATCHES. WHAT'S IN YES. AND WHAT WAS YOUR OTHER ONE, SIR? NUMBER FOUR, THE ON SITE DINING AND I HAVE A FEELING I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO BASED ON THE CEO OF REQUIREMENTS, SO YES, SIR. AND I'M STILL IN THE QUEUE ON THAT ONE. YES, GO AHEAD. EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND JUST SAID. I THINK IF WITHOUT A CEO THAT'S KINDA POINTLESS AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE STRUCK. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR FOUR WILL BE STRUCK BECAUSE IT IT WAS DEPENDENT ON THE OH ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING LEFT JUST SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR THE ONLY THING LEFT THAT WILL BE AMENDED TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS SIX W. SIX WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. AND UM, UM, THAT WILL BE THE ONLY AMENDMENT THAT STANDING AND THAT'S THE HOURS OF OPERATION. CORRECT. HANG ON WITH CURRENT. LIGHTEN UM, HOLD ON. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. HOLD ON, HOLD ARE YOU STILL IN THE QUEUE? GO AHEAD FOR THAT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS RECOMMENDATION ON THE COMPETITIVE PRICING FOR HEALTH INSPECTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FITS INTO THIS, BUT I KNOW IT WAS PART OF THE OVERALL QUESTION, SO I DON'T WANT TO LET THAT I HAVE DROPPED BY THE WAYSIDE. GOT THAT? THAT'S A COMPLETE SEPARATE SHEET OF PAPER. BUT PERFECT. THANK YOU, SIR. WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER, ROBIN THANK YOU, MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I CONCUR THAT I THINK THAT THAT FOR IS DEAD WITHOUT WITHOUT SEVENTIES REFERENCES IT AND I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IN IN W ONE WHICH REFERS TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. YEAH, THAT'S ALL GOOD. CAN I HAVE TO BE GONE AS WELL? UM AND THEN. FIVE IS LISTED HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY ON THE TABLE, BUT I KNOW THAT'S CURRENTLY ARE REQUIREMENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. THIS WAS AROUND. AND YOU? I BELIEVE MR CITY ATTORNEY. 
          YOU THOUGHT THAT THAT HAD BEEN A STATE REQUIREMENT? IT IS NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE REQUIRE THIS OF FOOD TRUCKS. THAT THEY KEEP ALL INVOICES AND RECEIPTS FOR FOOD SUPPLIES ON THE VEHICLE FOR INSPECTION. NOBODY ELSE IS REQUIRED TO DO THE BRICK AND MORTARS. NOBODY IS REQUIRED TO KEEP UH, RECORD OF EVERY UH, FOOD SUPPLY PURCHASE. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO AMEND TO STRIKE THAT. UM. JUST JUST IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS AND EQUITY. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS SO DO. DO BIRTHDAY, SO ANYTHING THAT FED, UH. A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT THEN SO IF I HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY. DO I NEED A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT? FOR BIRTHDAY PARTY. WHAT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS APPLY TO AND WHAT ARE THE FEES ON THAT IN THE UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? SURE. OR IF THE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CHANGE YOU TALKED MENTIONED AT ONE POINT SPECIAL, THEN, SURE. IF IT HAPPENS UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. BUT YES, UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, IF YOU HAVE A EVENT LIKE A BIRTHDAY PARTY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CHAIR ABOUT ABOUT FEES. I WOULD LIKE TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOSE . I MEAN, I HAVE A HARD TIME CHARGING SOMEBODY FOR THEIR YOU KNOW, 10TH BIRTHDAY PARTY, SOME CRAZY OR CHURCH OR OTHER OTHER CHARM ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER STUFF , SO THE EXTENT THAT WE LOOK AT FEES THAT I'D LIKE THAT TO BE LOOKED AT AS WELL WITH A WITH AN EYE TOWARDS THAT KIND OF ISSUE. IT AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MADAM. OKAY? UM SO. THE BACK UP TO BACK UP TO THE FIRST PART OF THAT OF STRIKING THE RECORD RETENTION. MM. FOUR. IN NUMBER FIVE. STRIKE NUMBER FIVE STRIKING RECORD UNDER. THAT'S IT THAT WAS REQUIRED REQUIRED UNDER CURRENT ORDINANCE, IT'S IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. BUT IT'S NOT STATE LAW. STRIKE IT. YES. WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THAT? YES. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. NOW I AGREE WITH ALL THESE STRIKES. BUT COUNCILOR NOW WOULDN'T 
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MISSION SPECIAL EVENT. FACE THAT'S A SEPARATE THAT'S NOT EVEN COVERED BY THIS SEPARATE SO THAT HE SUGGESTED WE TRY AND LOOK AT SPECIALLY VINCE IS PART OF THAT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT EVEN A PART OF THIS. NO THAT WILL BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. YES I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FEES MAKE SURE ESPECIALLY EVENTS IS YEAH, IT'S YEAH. FUNNY VALIUM FOR THAT. YEAH, WELL, YEAH. OKAY I'LL SECOND THAT. WHAT IS THAT? OKAY ALRIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULDN'T WANT THE EXPECTATION WAS NOT THAT OKAY? ALRIGHT. IS I KNOW YOU ARE. I KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE LOADING THIS UP. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT. 
          BIT AS FOR ONE AND TWO MAYOR AND THREE. THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE AMENDMENT. I BRING BACK TO YOU ALL THE ONLY THE ONLY AMENDMENTS I'M BRINGING ARE FOR SECTION SIX THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND THEN STRIKING WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE RECORD RETENTION. THAT'S THE ONLY AMENDMENTS I'M BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF FOLKS. CANCELATION MORRIS AND THE HEALTH PERMIT RECLASSIFICATION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT IS YEAH. I MEAN, HOW DO WE NEED TO ADD THEM SO THAT RESTAURANTS SO THAT FOOD TRUCKS ARE CONSIDERED IN THE SAME INSPECT? YES OKAY. YES, SURE THAT GETS IN THEIR THIS PIECE OF PAPER. NOT THIS FACEBOOK. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS ABOUT SORRY, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE BUSINESS ON THE SIDE OF AS CONFUSING AS IT IS, AND WE ARE GOING TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS. WHAT'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 8 20, PLEASE. ALRIGHT WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS FOR THE JUNE 20TH 2000 
          [4c. Audit Committee Meeting Report]
AND TWO WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE AT ITEM FOUR C. AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING REPORT. TESTAMENT, ROBIN THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM. I APOLOGIZE. LET ME PULL THIS UP HERE. AUDIT COMMITTEE MET LAST WEEK. UM WE HAVE TO AUDIT REPORTS AND THEN ALSO THE PEER REVIEW TO PRESENT TO YOU. UM. AND MAYBE I'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE FIRST AUDIT REPORT IS OF THE AUTO OVERLAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THAT. UM. SO WHEN JET IS DONE, I'LL JUMP IN WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME CHAIRMAN APPRECIATE IT. AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED WE MET LAST WEEK. THE FIRST ITEM WAS THE DOWNTOWN OR MAURICO OVERLAY DISTRICT LINE USE CREDIT PROGRAM. I DO WANT TO COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW JET RACKS. OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER REQUESTED THIS AUDIT APPRECIATE HIM FOR PUTTING TRUSTING IN US IN PERFORMING DECIDED A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS THIS PROGRAM BACK IN APRIL 2000 AND FIVE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHED AT DOWNTOWN AUTOMOTIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT CONSISTING OF TWO DISTINCT AREAS. AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE, THE CITY CREATED THE LAND USE CREDIT PROGRAM WITH THE INTENT OF MAINTAINING OR REDUCING THE NUMBER OF AUTUMN OR REVIEWS BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN AREA. ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE AND NEW AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSMEN OR OPERATE AND THEN EXISTING AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSMAN OR EXPAND WITHOUT OBTAINING TRANSFERABLE LAND USE CREDITS FROM ANOTHER AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS. QUITTING THE DISTRICT. 
          ALSO AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS THAT KEEP DISCONTINUOUS OPERATIONS CAN ONLY TRANSFER CREDITS DURING THE 60 CALENDAR DAYS AFTER CEASING THE OPERATION. AT WHICH POINT THE CREDIT EXPIRE. AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS AS WELL IN THE IN THIS PROGRAM. BACK IN 2000 AND FIVE AND WE INITIATED THIS ORDINANCE. THE CD IDENTIFIED 66 OR MULTI BUSINESSES IN THIS DISTRICT, WITH THE TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 716,000 CREDIT GRANTED. KEEP IN MIND FOR EACH SQUARE FOOTAGE. ONE CREDIT IS GRANTED. THE AUTOMOTIVE USE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE PROVIDED WITH THE NUMBER OF LAND USE CREDIT AT THAT TIME EQUAL TO THE PROPERTY SQUARE FOOTAGE. MAY 2 2015. THIS ORDINANCE WAS ADAPTED INTO GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CORD, WHICH CONTAINS THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO THE CITY OF GARLAND. DURING THIS PROCESS, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE 
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DA'AN DISTRICT WAS EXPANDED. SO, UM FROM 2005 IN 2015. THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT WAS EXPANDED. SO OUR PURPOSE WAS TO MAINLY VERIFIED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS THIS ORDINANCE THIS PROGRAM, SO IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS, SO THAT'S WHY GENERAL QUESTIONED THIS. SO WHAT WE FOUND OUT TODAY THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 61 AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES USING 81 PROPERTY ADDRESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT WITH A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 845,000 SQUARE FEET. EARLIER INDICATED THAT IN 2000 AND FIVE WE IDENTIFIED 66 OR MORE OF BUSINESSES. WITH A TOTAL OF 716,000 CREDIT. TODAY THE TOTAL NUMBER HAS DECREASED 60 FROM 66 TO 61, BUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAVE INCREASED. HOW DID THIS 61 ORDER USE BUSINESSES? 50 OF THEM DID RECEIVE CREDIT BACK IN 2000 AND FIVE LOVE ENOUGH FROM DID NOT. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE 11, BUT THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED CREDIT TO BE AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE A FEW THINGS. 
          WE DO NOT CONTACT ANY OF THE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES IN THIS DISTRICT. OUR CONCLUSION IS BASED ON A LOT OF DATA ANALYTICS AND ALSO OBSERVATION DRIVE THROUGH THROUGHOUT THIS DISTRICT. OF THOSE 50 BUSINESSES , WHICH RECEIVED CREDIT PROBLEM. APPROXIMATELY 16 OF THOSE 11 OF THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE ADDED EXPANDED, UM, THEIR USAGE TO 16 ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE MAY HAVE ISSUED 5000 CREDIT TO ONE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS, BUT TODAY, UM THEY MAY BE OPERATING A 6000 SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS THAT COULD BE PARKING LOTS. SO IN SUMMARY TODAY, THERE ARE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES OPERATING WITH PROPER CREDITS. THERE OR MOTIVE BUSINESSES OPERATING WITHOUT ANY CREDITS THAT ARE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES OPERATING WITH INCORRECT CREDIT. SO THAT IS THE SUMMARY SINCE 2000 AND FIVE. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE THING. UNFORTUNATELY OUR TRACKING OF THIS PROGRAM WAS NOT THAT EFFECTIVE. SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IS NOT ACCURATE, AS I INDICATED THE SCORE FOOTAGE MAY NOT BE ACCURATE. SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES HAVE FLAPS. THERE'S 60 DAY GRACE PERIOD ONCE THEY CEASE THE OPERATION, BUT THEY WERE STILL GIVE THEM CREDIT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO OTHERS. SO UM, AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO REFER THIS BACK TO COUNCILMAN CHAIRMAN OR BEEN UM, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UM WE ARE OPERATING WITH THE PROGRAM HASN'T BEEN VERY MONITORED EFFECTIVELY. BUT IT'S MORE OF A COUNCIL DECISION AT THIS POINT. THIS IS THE DECISION THAT WE MADE IN 2000 AND FIVE WE ARE IN 2022. SO WE'RE GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO COUNCILMAN OR BEEN CHAIRMAN OR BEEN AH! THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, UM JED AND THANKS TO YOUR STAFF FOR THEIR GOOD WORK ON PARTIALLY UNTANGLING THIS AND I SAY, PARTIALLY BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S ACTUALLY CAME BACK WHEN CAME TO AUDIT COMMITTEE UM. WE REALIZE THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DIG A LOT MORE INTO HOW THIS HAPPENED, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO. 
          THERE'S NO POINT IN SPENDING THAT TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS HAPPENED, HOW IT AND YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT IT IN YOUR BOX, DROPBOX OR WHATEVER. THERE SHOULD BE THE REPORT AND IT HAS THE GRAPHS. AND IT SHOWS THIS STUFF AND BASICALLY IN AND THERE'S NO CRITICISM OF STAFF HERE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY WE LOST OUR WAY ON THIS. AND, UM UNTANGLING IT. WOULD JUST BE AN ABSOLUTE MESS, AND IT'S THIS IS SIMILAR TO. WHAT WE RAN INTO A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH THE FACILITY ON FOREST LANE. SAME KIND OF THING WHO WAS PROMISED. WHEN DID THEY HAVE THESE? WHEN WERE THEY ACTUALLY IN EXISTENCE? WHEN DID WE KNOW? I MEAN, WE HAVE ISSUES WHERE YOU KNOW THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS WAS EXPANDED. AND NOBODY REALLY DIDN'T. IT'S NOT EVEN THAT LONG AGO BUT ALREADY THE SANDS OF TIME HAVE WATCHED OVER HOW EXACTLY IT HAPPENED, AND WHETHER ANYBODY KNEW AND SO. THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. UM WAS THAT THIS PROBABLY EITHER GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL OR MORE LIKELY GO TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. TO LOOK FOR WHAT THE SOLUTION SHOULD BE . WE TALKED ABOUT. GENERALLY THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO THIS. YOU COULD FIX THIS AND START OVER. YOU COULD ELIMINATE YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND JUST ELIMINATE THE ZONING. IN THIS AREA, AND THEN THESE WOULD BE GRANDFATHER. NONCONFORMING USES THAT IF THEY 
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WEREN'T USED FOR SIX MONTHS, WOULD UH, THE RIGHTS WOULD LAPSE , BUT THEY COULD OTHERWISE BE TRANSFERRED. AND SO WITHOUT ALL THE CREDITS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF SERVED ITS PURPOSE AND IT WAS GOOD WORK BY THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER OPTIONS TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT BASICALLY WE JUST NEED TO. IT'S GOING TO BE COUNCIL POLICY DECISION GOING FORWARD ABOUT HOW TO ADMINISTER YOU KNOW THIS PROGRAM? I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW. Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S A WORTHY TYPE OF PROGRAM TO CONTINUE. I BELIEVE IT IS. BUT THAT'S KIND OF BESIDE THE POINT FROM AN AUDIT COMMITTEE PERSPECTIVE, OUR JOB WAS JUST TO LOOK AT HOW THE PROGRAM HAD BEEN ADMINISTERED AND LOOK AT THE NEXT STEPS SO REV AND DIG INTO THE QUESTIONS AND RECRIMINATIONS ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE. WE THINK IT'S TIME FOR A FRESH START IN OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SEND IT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE, UM, TO FIGURE OUT AND THEN BRING THAT BACK, AND I'M SURE NOW WHEN MAY BROUGHT TIM HEDRICK DOES DOES HIS COMMITTEE SELECTIONS. HE MAY NOT WANT TO BE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE ANYMORE. TURNED HIM IN ALREADY AFTER RECALL THAT EMAIL? YEAH THERE'S NO UNDO SO ANYWAY, THAT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THAT. AND I AGAIN. I THINK THE UM, THE AUDIT TEAM FOR KIND OF FERRETING THROUGH THIS, AND I THINK, UH, MR REX FOR RAISING THE ISSUE FOR US TO LOOK AT. I KNOW THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE MARRIED. LOOK, PINKER CANCEL YOU, MORRIS. I JUST WANTED TO SECOND THAT. 
          THANK YOU, JED FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. JUDD THERE YOU ARE, UM, FOR SENDING THIS. THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A PROGRAM THAT, UM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT AND I'VE EXPLAINED THE PROGRAM. I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS FUNCTIONING. SO I CONCUR WITH SENDING IT TO, UH TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. YEAH SORRY. UM BUT YEAH, THIS THIS IS THE WALKING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. IT'S THERE'S NO PURPOSE IN GOING BACK AND POINTING FINGERS, BUT WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF WHERE WE ARE IN GET TO A BETTER PLACE. SO I THINK DSC IS A IS A GOOD CHOICE FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANDL REFER THAT OVER TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE'LL GET THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PROCESS. 
          MOVING MARY FROM COMING. I ALSO WANT TO APPRECIATE HOW THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT COURT COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT AND EVEN CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR WORKING THROUGH WORKING WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS AUDIT. A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS PULLED. LOT OF INFORMATION WAS ANALYZED, SO I DO WANT TO APPRECIATE THEM, INCLUDING PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL, THANKS FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE. THE NEXT STARTED THAT WE RECOVERED DURING THE ARCTIC COMMITTEE WITH THE VENDOR MASTER FILE AUDIT. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE IS A LOT OF ATTEMPT. TO CHANGE VENDOR INFORMATION WITHIN, UM, PRETTY MUCH EVERY ORGANIZATIONS FINANCE SYSTEM. SO OUR EVENT THAT INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT, VERY SIGNIFICANT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF HACKING TECHNIQUES AND ATTEMPTS, PHISHING ATTACKS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. TO CHANGE ESPECIALLY BANK INFORMATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT IS THE PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DID THIS AUDIT MAINLY TO VERIFY THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE INTERNAL CONTROL EXIST AND OPERATING EFFECTIVELY OVER OUR VENDOR MASTER FILE AUDIT MADAM MASTER FILE PROCESS. THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT WAS FROM OCTOBER 2019 THROUGH FISCALLY FEBRUARY. 2022 WE DID FIND A FEW AREAS WHERE WE COULD MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. WE FOUND SOME GAP VENDOR NUMBER GAPS WITHIN THE VENDOR MASTER FILE. WE ALSO FOUND SOME LACK OF DOCUMENTATIONS WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW CERTAIN INFORMATION AND VERIFY BANKING CHANGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE ALSO FOUND THAT OUR INACTIVE VENDOR INFORMATION WASN'T BEING CLEANED OR DELETED PRIORITY KLAY AND UPDATES TO VENDOR FILES. UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPORT TO LOOK AT THAT, AND THE CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE JUSTIFICATIONS WHEN THEIR NEW VENDORS HAD TO BE CREATED WITHIN THE SYSTEM, SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF UM, INTERNAL CONTROLS THINGS WE THOUGHT WE COULD TIE IT IN DURING DURING THIS AUDIT. THE GOOD NEWS IS FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS EXPLORING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CLOUD BASED BUSINESS IDENTITY PORTAL TO BE USED TO ONBOARD ALL WINTERS. SO GOING FORWARD, THIS PORTAL WILL ALLOW BUSINESSES TO CREATE UPDATE PROFILE INFORMATION IN A SECURE ENVIRONMENT. AND TO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE CURRENT MANUAL , WINTER VERIFICATION PROCESS. SO THAT IS THE THAT IS THE GOAL 
          [02:25:06]
. THAT IS. THAT IS WHAT MATT AND HIS GROUP IS WORKING ON. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING WITH THIS WINTER, IF WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ON A FRAUD LIABILITY, IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN, SO I THINK THAT'S EVEN BETTER. SO OVERALL, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT . BUT I KNOW MATT AND HIS STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS INTERNAL CONTROL WEAKNESSES THAT WE ADD AND DEFIED. AND TO GIVE HIM CREDIT. UM THEY WORKED HARD EXTREMELY HARD BECAUSE THEY ARE A CENTRALIZED AGENCY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY DEPARTMENT. THEY GET A LOT OF REQUESTS A LOT OF UPDATES. AND SO WITH THE WITH THE LIMITED STAFF THAT THEY HAVE, THEY DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD. AND SO I DO WANT TO APPRECIATE THEM FOR WORKING WITH US DURING DECIDED AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ROBIN AND AGAIN? THANK YOU, JUDD. GOOD KID . SORRY JUDGE, JED. I'M GETTING ALL CONFUSED. THANK YOU, JED FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS FOR YOUR TEAM'S WORK ON THIS, UM AND THANK YOU TO MATT AND HIS TEAM FOR DEALING WITH THIS SYSTEM. 
          IMPORTANT ONE FOLKS. IS THIS THE VENDOR MASTER FILE CHANGES TO THIS OR YOU KNOW YOU WRITE A CHECK FOR A MILLION DOLLARS AND IT GETS CACHED BY SOMEBODY IN DJIBOUTI OR SOMETHING, AND THEN WE GOT PROBLEMS. UM AND SO YOU KNOW, WEAKNESSES WERE IDENTIFIED IN A LOT OF THEM CANDIDLY ARE JUST WEARING A VERY HIRING CHALLENGE. VERY CHALLENGING HIRING MARKET. THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP FULLY STAFFED AND HAVE PEOPLE UP THERE TO DO THIS STUFF, I THINK, OFFLOADING THIS TO A THIRD PARTY WHO IS WILLING TO PROVIDE BASICALLY FRAUD INSURANCE COVERAGE SO THAT IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE WERE COVERED, I THINK THE NUMBER TALKED ABOUT WAS UP TO SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO, UM IT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER. I THINK THAT I HOPE WILL BE PRESENTED THAT THEY'LL BE READY TO BRING THAT AT SOME POINT OR HOWEVER, HOWEVER, GOES THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS. AH TO BE APPROVED. BUT AGAIN, THANKS TO YOUR TEAM, THANKS TO MATT AND EVERYONE OVER AND FINANCIAL THANK YOU. VERY GOOD THAT WE DISCUSS WAS THE PEER REVIEW REPORT. UH, THE INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT. WE FOLLOW THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED GOVERNMENTAL AUDITING STANDARDS. ISSUED BY THE CONTROLLER GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARD IS TO GO THROUGH AN EXTERNAL PERIOD VIEW BASICALLY AND THIRD PARTY AUDITOR COMING AUDIT US. SO ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT, SO WE ACTUALLY ENGAGE THAT EXTERNAL PEER REVIEW THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUDITORS. THE AUDITORS CAME AND THEIR PURPOSE. THEIR OBJECTIVE WAS TO VERIFY IF YOU'RE FAR IF WE'RE OPERATING ADEQUATELY, UM AND EFFECTIVELY AND WE HAVE PROPER CONTROLS TO GAIN ASSURANCE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. HAPPY TO REPORT THAT AFTER THE REVIEW. UM WE AND THE HIGHEST OPINION OF PAST ISSUED BY THE CONTROLLER GENERAL. AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE ARCTIC COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, THE ARCTIC COMMITTEE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT, UM THROUGHOUT THIS PAST THREE YEARS, BECAUSE THEY WHEN THEY COME AND LOOK AT IT, THEY LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS, INCLUDING ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY DO LOOK AT IS THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT, INDEPENDENCE AND THE OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVITY OF FOR AUDIT DEPARTMENT. THEY LOOK AT OUR POLICIES PROCEDURES. THEY LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS THAT SAMPLED A NUMBER OF PART OF REPORTS. THEY MAKE SURE THAT WE BEFORE WE REACH OUT CERTAIN CONCLUSIONS IN OUR REPORT, WE WENT THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT APPROPRIATE AND SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE SO THEY DO LOOK AT VERY DETAILED WHEN THEY COME AND DO THIS AUDIT, BUT WE WILL NOT PASS THIS AUDIT WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT AND WITHOUT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CORPORATION, SO I REALLY DO WANT TO APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY CHAIRMAN ARE BEEN. HE'S BEEN MY CHAIRMAN, THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS. RIGHT NOW, I DO WANT TO THANK HIM FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND THANK HIM ALSO TO ALLOW US TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY AND THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL. AS FOR SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE GOOD NEWS WITH YOU. WE SHARE THE REPORT AND CERTIFICATE DURING THE COMMITTEE. CATHERINE ROBERT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM. IN AGAIN. I COUNSEL. I THINK THIS IS A AN UNSURPRISING BUT VERY GOOD ACCOMPLISHMENT BY AUDIT. UM IT IN PERSONALLY, IT'S BEEN MY PRIVILEGE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR OVER SIX YEARS NOW AND FOR CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS , AND I WOULDN'T PUT IN PARTICULAR I WANT TO THANK THE 
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COUNCIL. FOR BEING COMMITTED TO THE INDEPENDENCE OF AUDIT AND ALLOWING AUDIT INTERNAL AUDIT TO SERVE ITS FUNCTION, WHICH IS TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC TRUST TO ENSURE THAT UM, THAT ARE RESIDENTS CAN CAN TRUST CAN CHECK OUR MATH AND TRUST WHAT WE'RE DOING AND KNOW THAT WE'RE OUT HERE, NOT JUST AUDITING NUMBERS, BUT ORDERING AUDITING HOW WE DO THINGS AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIND OF A LIST OVER THE LAST 56 YEARS IN MY HEAD OF GREATEST HITS THE GREATEST AUDITS THAT WE'VE DONE THINGS THAT WE'VE UNCOVERED AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT. 
          UM COUNSEL AND STAFF ALLOWING FOR THE INDEPENDENCE OF INTERNAL AUDIT. UH, AND FOR. AND FOR ALLOWING INTERNAL AUDIT TO WORK IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY. I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT OUR INTERNAL AUDIT FUNCTION IS THAT IT IS NOT BEEN A GOTCHA FUNCTION . IT HAS BEEN A LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO FIND PROBLEMS AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SOLVE THEM. SO VERY PLEASED TO GET THIS. 
          THIS THIS, UH HAVE THIS CLEAN PERIOD VIEW, A VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND VERY GRATEFUL. UH HEAD FOR THE WORK YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE IN ENSURING THE PUBLIC TRUST OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR D, 
          [4d. GP&L Recovery Adjustment Factor]
G P AND L RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR. 
          MAYBE. HMM. NOT GETTING THE CURSOR. WE CAN SEE IT ZINGING AROUND. I CAN'T SEE IT. IT'S MOVING ALL OVER THE SCREEN. OKAY. TELL ME IF YOUNG TILLMAN GETS TO PRESENTATION. YEAH. HANG ON. IS THIS WHERE THE MAGIC F FIVE BUTTON COMES IN? NO DARN IT TOO. I WONDER IF I. OH, NEVER MIND DAN AGAIN. PRETTY MUCH HMM. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW? WE DON'T SEE IT. YET. 
          THERE'S THE THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. APPRECIATE. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. COMPUTER DOWN. ARE WE READY? ALRIGHT, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOOD EVENING, CAROL KLEIN, GORDON POWER AND LIGHT GENERAL MANAGER. AND AFTER WATCHING ALLISON'S PRESENTATION EARLIER. I THINK THE COUNCIL'S FULLY AWARE AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT ARE GOING ON NOT JUST LOCALLY. 
          THE STATEWIDE THE NATION GLOBALLY. AND OBVIOUSLY GARLAND , POWER AND LIGHTS NOT IMMUNE TO THOSE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES WE'VE SEEN COST INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH EQUIPMENT, MATERIAL CONTRACTORS LABOR. BUT ALL THOSE PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS PRICES. AND SO TONIGHT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH AND TALK WITH COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, THE RAPID RISE IN THE COST OF NATURAL GAS THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE RECENTLY. WHAT THAT MEANS TO GARLAND POWER LIES FAR AS THE SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASES AND NOT JUST US, BUT ALSO TO ARCHIVE. AH IN ADDITION, TALK ABOUT G P AND L'S PLAN TO OFFSET THIS COST. UTILIZING BOTH OUR RATE MITIGATION FUND AS WELL AS INCREASE TO OUR RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR. AND THEN LASTLY, TALK ABOUT UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE. OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF INCREASE, COUPLED WITH THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE STRUGGLING WITH REGARDS TO SOME TYPE OF PAYMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR BILLS. AND THE SLIDE THAT YOU SEE IS NATURAL GAS PRICES IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE BLACK VERTICAL LINE TO THE LEFT THESE WOULD BE THE ACTUAL HISTORICAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS PRICES. THESE WOULD BE THE SETTLEMENT COST FOR EACH MONTH. AND IF YOU LOOK BACK TO JANUARY OR EXCUSE ME, JUNE OF 2021 AH! 
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GAS PRICES WERE JUST BELOW $3 AT $2.98. WE GET TO JUNE OF 2022. NATURAL GAS PRICES HAVE EXPLODED UP TO ALMOST $9. IT'S ALMOST TRIPLING IN PRICE IN A YEAR, AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO KIND OF PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT GASOLINE PRICES IN JUNE OF 2021, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE WAS RIGHT AROUND $3 A GALLON. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT $5 A GALLON, SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IF GASOLINE PRICES WOULD HAVE TRIPLED, YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO $9 A GALLON AS FAR AS PRICES. GIVES YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OF THE MAGNITUDE OF TYPE OF INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS. IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE CHART, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING FORECASTED OUT AS FAR AS THE PRICES ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS. UNFORTUNATELY AND I GUESS, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE FREEPORT LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS FACILITY, THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION AT THEIR PLANT THIS MONTH. AND HAS CAUSED FORTUNATELY AGAIN FOR US HAS CAUSED A DECREASE ASSOCIATE WITH NATURAL GAS PRICES. PRIOR TO THAT EXPLOSION. NATURAL GAS PRICES WERE ACTUALLY ABOVE $9. IN FACT, I THINK PEAKED AT $9.66. RIGHT PRIOR TO THE EXPLOSION. THE REASON WHY THIS HAS HAD A DECREASE IN THE COST OF NATURAL GAS IS THAT LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS FACILITY DEMANDS ABOUT TWO BILLION CUBIC FEET A DAY AS FAR AS CONVERTING GAS INTO LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS, WHICH IS EXPORTS PRIMARILY TO EUROPE. GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TWO BILLION CUBIC FEET OF GAS MEANS. THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS USES ABOUT 200 CUBIC FEET A DAY. THAT'S ABOUT 10 MILLION HOMES A DAY AS FAR AS WHAT NATURAL GAS WILL BE USED FOR, SO I HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE MARKET PRICES FAIL. UM BUT THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME CONCERNS WITH REGARDS TO DEMAND. 
          JUST BECAUSE OF RECESSIONARY PRESSURES THAT ARE OUT THERE, SO WE'RE SEEING SOME REDUCTION WITH REGARDS TO WHERE NATURAL GAS PRICES WERE, WHICH, WHICH ARE A GOOD THING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON US. HOWEVER THERE'S ALWAYS THAT , BUT, UM, BUT THERE'S NOT A CORRESPONDING 1 TO 1 DECREASE IN THE NATURAL CAT GAS COSTS AND ALSO YOUR ENERGY PRICE. ENERGY PRICES AND MARKET ARE MADE UP OF TWO COMPONENTS. ONE. IT'S THE COST OF YOUR FUEL. IN THE SECOND PART IS HOW EFFICIENT DOES YOUR PLANT CONVERT FUEL? TO ELECTRICITY. SO IF YOU TAKE LIKE OUR OLD PLANTS, THEY'RE OLDER. THEY'RE 50 YEARS OLD OR NOT THAT EFFICIENT. IT TAKES MORE GAS FOR YOU TO CONVERT TO ONE KILOWATT HOUR OF ELECTRICITY THAN, SAY, A BRAND NEW PLANT. IT TAKES LESS GAS USE. WHEN WE'VE ALSO THINK ABOUT FROM A FUEL STANDPOINT IN MARKET, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST NATURAL GAS, NATURAL GAS. THERE'S COLD. THERE'S NUCLEAR AND EVEN YOU CAN ARGUE WHEN AND SOLAR OR FORMS OF FUEL. SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUEL AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONVERSIONS THAT HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT ELECTRICITY WELL TO STANDARDIZE WHAT THAT IS, IS CALLED A HEAT RATE. THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS. THERE'S YOUR COST OF FUEL, AND THERE'S YOUR HEAT RATE, WHICH ULTIMATELY DRIVES WHAT'S YOUR PRICE FOR POWER IS IN THE WAY THAT'S CALCULATING AN ARCHIVE IS YOU TAKE THE PRICE OF THE POWER. DIVIDED BY YOUR COST OF GAS, AND IT COMES UP WITH THE HEAT RATE. WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENED? AND THIS IS A CHART SHOWING HEAT RATES AND OUR COT. FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR, JUNE 1ST THROUGH JUNE 16TH. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THE HEAT RATES AND THE AIR COTTON MARKET OR INCREASING. SO EVEN THOUGH THE NATURAL GAS PRICES ARE COMING DOWN, WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOUR HEAT RATES ARE COMING UP, AND IT NATURALLY MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE AS YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE SUMMER, YOU THINK ABOUT MORE DEMAND HAPPENING ON THE SYSTEM. YOU'RE HAVING TO START USING THOSE OLD, INEFFICIENT TYPE OF UNITS, SO HEAT RATES GOING UP. GUESS WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING? EVERYBODY'S GOING OUTSIDE, AND THEY FELT THE TEMPERATURES TEMPERATURES EXTREMELY HOT, SO SUPPLY AND DEMAND NATURALLY IS BEING SQUEEZED. AND ANY TIME THOSE ARE BEING SQUEEZED PRICES GO UP. SO EVEN THOUGH THE FUEL COSTS ARE COMING DOWN, HEAT RATES ARE GOING UP. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS ILLUSTRATED. IN THIS SLIDE HERE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR GREEN LINE, WHICH IS THE TOP LINE WHAT THIS IS. THESE ARE THE AVERAGE FORWARD PRICES FOR ENERGY IN THE NORTH LOAD ZONE OF ORCAS. GARLAND HAPPENS TO BE IN THE NORTH LOAD ZONE OF MARKET. SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE YOU LOOK AT JUNE, THE FIRST OF 
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2022 ON THAT GREEN LINE. WHAT THAT IS SHOWING IS WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST FROM JUNE 1ST THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF 2022. AND IT'S ABOUT 13. CENTS 13.4 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR. IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THAT GRAPH AND YOU SEE ON JUNE THE 16TH YOU LOOK AT THAT PRICE AND THAT SAYS FROM JUNE 16TH FORWARD TO THE END OF THE YEAR. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PRICE? ENTER COTTON? WAS 13.2 CENTS. WELL. GAS ON JUNE 1ST WAS $8.12. GAS ON JUNE 16TH. $7.43 GAS DROPPED. BUT IF YOU LOOK THE PRICES ARE BASICALLY FLAT. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKETPLACE IS GAS IS GOING DOWN, BUT HEAT RATES ARE GOING UP AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY STAYING FLAT. THE OTHER THING THAT IS INTERESTING HERE IS I'VE ADDED IN FROM LAST YEAR, I'VE ADDED IN THE PURPLE PURPLE LINE IS 2021. 
          SO IF YOU GO BACK TO JUNE 1ST OF 2021 AND YOU FORECASTED OUT WHAT POWER WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR IN JUNE 1ST 2021 TO THE END OF 2021. PRICES RANGE AROUND 4.5 CENTS TO ABOUT 5.7 CENTS. IT'S ROUGHLY WHAT THE RANGE WAS. THAT WAS THE FORECAST OUT. THE BLUE LINE IS TAKING LAST YEAR. AND FORECASTING OUT FOR 2022. SO LAST YEAR. WHERE DID WE THINK PRICES WOULD BE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT JUNE 1ST? IT LOOKED TO BE AT FOUR CENTS. JUNE 16TH. 4.8 CENTS. HE STARTED LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRICES. BETWEEN WHERE WE THOUGHT PRICES WOULD BE THIS YEAR, VERSUS WHERE PRICES ARE. YOU'RE ABOUT 8 TO 9 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR. VERY IMPORTANT. 
          REMEMBER THOSE TWO NUMBERS 8 TO 9 CENTS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR? WHY IS NATURAL GAS IMPORTANT FOR US? AS FAR AS THE COST? WELL FOR G, P AND L APPROXIMATELY ONE THIRD OF OUR ELECTORATE, LOAD OBLIGATIONS , AND WHEN WE MEAN ELECTRIC LOAD OBLIGATIONS, BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHEN A CUSTOMER COMES IN AND FLIPS ON THAT LIGHT SWITCH THAT LIGHT COMES ON. WELL THAT'S CREATED A LOAD OBLIGATION FOR US. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE OR WHEN THEY TURNED THAT MICROWAVE ON THAT'S CREATED A LOAD OBLIGATION FOR US. BASICALLY, WE HAD TO PROVIDE THEM POWER. SO ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR LOAD OBLIGATIONS WE HEDGE AND THAT'S KEY THAT WE HEDGE WITH OUR NATURAL GAS FIRED UNITS. THE WAY WE ACTUALLY OPERATE. OUR UNITS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED ECONOMIC DISPATCH. ECONOMIC DISPATCH IS JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING IF THE MARKET MARKET IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN RUNNING OUR UNITS, WE RUN OUR UNITS. IF THEY ARE CAUGHT MARKETS LESS THAN RUNNING OUR UNITS WE BUY FROM THE COTTON MARKET. AND TYPICALLY, WE BUY FROM THE ARCHIVE MARKET. UM ARE UNITS AGAIN ARE OLDER, LESS EFFICIENT COMPARED TO TOO MANY OF THE UNITS THAT ARE IN CIRCUS AND SO WE TYPICALLY ARE BUYING OFF THE CUT MARKET. THE REMAINING TWO THIRDS THAT WE COVER FOR OUR LOAD OBLIGATION. WE MEET THOSE WITH RENEWABLES, WHICH ARE FIXED PRICE ARRANGEMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR LONG TERM. AND THOSE ARE SUPPOSED SOLAR AND WIND. THEN WE ALSO HAVE FIXED PRICE. LONG TERM POWER PURCHASE IS SO WE'LL BUY A BLOCK OF POWER. WHEN WE SEE THAT THE ECONOMICS ARE THERE WILL BUY A BLOCK OF POWER THAT'S CHEAPER THAN US RUNNING THE UNITS. AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY AGAIN FIXED PRICE FOR A FIXED PERIOD OF TIME. AND THIS GIVES US A LOT OF DIVERSITY ASSOCIATED WITH OUR WITH OUR PORTFOLIO. AS FAR AS HOW WE COVER A LOAD OBLIGATIONS. WE'VE GOT SOME NATURAL GAS. WE'VE GOT SOME MARKET EXPOSURE. 
          WE'VE GOT RENEWABLES. WE ALSO HAVE FIXED PRICE PURCHASES THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIVERSITY. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT PEOPLE WOULD DO WITH REGARDS TO IN THEIR INVESTMENTS. 
          THEY WANT TO DIVERSIFY AND YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS BENEFITING US BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DIVERSIFICATION. WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ARKADY IS ALSO THE NATURAL GAS BECAUSE OVER 40% OF NATURAL OF ELECTRIC PRODUCTION IN MARKET IS NATURAL GAS FIRED UNITS AND SO OBVIOUSLY MARKET IS GETTING HIT WITH REGARDS TO PRICES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPH. THIS GRAPH IS COMPARING THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL COST ASSUMING 1500 KILOWATT HOURS OF CONSUMPTION FOR A CUSTOMER. THIS IS COMPARING THE POWER TO CHOOSE WEBSITE. VERSUS G P AND L AND I THINK COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT EVERY MONTH WE DO A COMPARISON OF G P AND L RATES VERSUS WHAT'S ON THE POWER TO CHOOSE. AND SO ALL THIS IS DOING IS TAKING THE INFORMATION FROM THOSE PAST MONTHS AND PUTTING IT IN A GRAPH. AND YOU CAN SEE FROM JUNE OF 21 MARKET. THIS AVERAGE PRICE WAS BASICALLY 10.5 CENTS. NOW IT'S GOING TO 18.7 CENTS. THAT'S 
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A LITTLE OVER EIGHT CENTS. REMEMBER PREVIOUS MENTION 8 TO 9 CENTS. THERE'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THE DIFFERENCE. AND IT'S BEEN REFLECTED IN THE PRICING THAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT ON POWER TO CHOOSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GARDEN POWER LIGHTS RATES, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THOSE RATES DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, SO WE HAVE REMAINED BASICALLY JUST BELOW 10 CENTS WHEN YOU'RE ASSUMING 1500 KILOWATT HOURS OF USE. AND THIS IS A SLIDE. I THINK THAT THAT'S MANY OF YOU SEEN. THIS GIVES A COMPARISON. SO THIS IS LAST JUNE. SO LAST JUNE AGAIN, THE AVERAGE PRICE IN OUR CART WAS ROUGHLY 10.5 10.6 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR. WE WERE JUST BELOW 10 CENTS. AND ROUGHLY ROUGHLY ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NUMBER AS FAR AS WHEN MAKING THE COMPARISON. BUT WE WERE STILL A LITTLE OVER HALF A CENT LOWER THAN THE MARKET PLACE. MOVED TO JUNE OF THIS YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AGAIN. HERE'S THE 18.7 CENT COMPARISON. WE ARE WELL BELOW THE REST OF THE MARKET, AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT CLOSEST TO US, THAT AVERAGE RATE IS 14.4 CENTS. AND IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I DID THAT RIGHT BEFORE COMING UP HERE, I LOOKED DOWN THE POWER TO CHOOSE. AND THE CHEAPEST RATE THAT YOU CAN GET ON THE POWER TO CHOOSE RIGHT NOW IS 14.7 CENTS, AND THAT'S FOR 60 MONTHS SO YOU CAN LOCK IN YOUR RATE FOR FIVE YEARS AT 14.7 CENTS, OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOCK IN FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN DO THREE MONTHS AT 27.2 CENTS, SO THERE'S YOUR RANGE RIGHT NOW IN THE EARTH AND THE ERCOT MARKET AND THE DEREGULATED AREA. UM AS FAR AS YOUR POWER TO CHOOSE. LET ME ACTUALLY GO BACK REAL QUICK HERE. OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE STARTED SEEING THIS MOVEMENT IN THE MARKETPLACE, BOTH WITH GAS AND JUST WELL AS THE ARCHITECT PRICING THAT WAS GOING ON. AH WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF ACTION. AND SO WE STARTED, OF COURSE, RUNNING OUR ANALYSIS LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS. AND UM, BASICALLY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THROUGH APRIL. WE WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. BUT THEN, WITH THE GAS PRICES INCREASING SO DRAMATICALLY AND THEN, COUPLED WITH WITH THE, UM HEAT RATES GOING UP THAT JUST MADE IT WHERE AGAIN. WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING AND WHAT MANY UTILITIES HAVE AS THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC ADJUSTMENT OF FACTOR WHETHER IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR FUEL COSTS FOR THE PURCHASE POWER CAUSE THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC ADJUSTMENTS. AND SO THAT WAS JUST FLOW THROUGH TO THE CUSTOMERS BASED UPON A SET CALCULATION. MHM GARDEN POWER AND LIGHTS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED A RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT OF FACTOR. AND THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED BY THE GENERAL MANAGER ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IF YOU GO BACK MANY, MANY YEARS AGO , THIS WAS ADJUSTED ON A MONTHLY BASIS. SO IF YOU HAD CHANGES IN YOUR FRUIT, FUEL PRICES OR ANY OTHER DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST FUEL OR PURCHASE POWER. THIS CAN BE CHANGED FOR ANY TYPE OF COST. AND SO IT USED TO BE A JUST MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT THEN A DECISION WAS MADE TO BE TO HAVE THAT RATE MORE CONSISTENT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR MONTHLY BILL IS GOING TO BE, AND SO WE'VE KEPT IT ON A MORE CONSISTENT BASIS. AND HAD LESS FREQUENT TYPE OF CHANGES. BUT AGAIN, THIS GIVES THIS GIVES GONNA POWER AND LIGHT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST AND MOVE FROM THE STANDPOINT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, BUT IT ALSO GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY WHERE IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC. YOU CAN GO IN AND MAKE SOME TYPE OF STRATEGIC CHANGES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING WHERE IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC PASSING EVERYTHING THROUGH. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS INCREASING. 
          THERE'S RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR BY 2% 2 CENTS. THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JULY THE FIRST WE'RE COUPLING THAT WITH USING OUR RATE MITIGATION FUND DOLLARS IN BOTH FY 22 TO THE TUNE OF RIGHT NOW WE'RE BUDGETING $42 MILLION. AND THEN FOR FY 23 WERE BUDGETING $14 MILLION AS WELL TO COVER THAT. AND ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IF YOU WERE TO GO IN AND DO YOUR RATE INCREASE TO TRY TO MATCH WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE. REMEMBER I SAID THAT 27.2 CENTS. THAT WAS OVER A THREE MONTH PERIOD. SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO RECOVER YOUR COSTS OVER A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, YOUR RATES NATURALLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO HIGHER. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS RECOVERING THIS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. WE'RE LOOKING AT BETWEEN NOW BETWEEN JULY 1ST. IN SEPTEMBER. 
          30TH OF 2023, SO IT'S ABOUT A 15 MONTH PERIOD IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND AGAIN. WE'RE HOPING, OF COURSE, THAT THE TREND WILL CONTINUE. OUR COSTS WILL DECREASE AND WE CAN GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS TRYING TO SPREAD THAT 
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OUT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME , AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE IN THE RIGHT MITIGATION FUND. NOW IN ADDITION, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UM IF WE PUT THE RATES INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST, WE ONLY HAVE JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, SO WE ONLY GET THREE MONTHS THAT THE TWO CENTS WHEREAS STARTING IN OCTOBER, 1ST. WE'LL GET THE FULL 12 MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO WE'RE ABLE TO GENERATE GENERATE MORE REVENUE TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO MENTION IS I KNOW THAT, UM OUT ON THE DEREGULATED SIDE OF THINGS MARKET HAS COME OUT SAYING ON JULY 1ST. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ERCOT UPLIFT FEE, AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AN ARTICLE REGARDING THAT. IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. WE TOOK CARE OF OUR COST ASSOCIATED WITH FEBRUARY EVENT BACK LAST YEAR, AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT THESE COSTS ARE BEING PASSED THROUGH TO CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ON THE DEREGULATED SIDE. AND IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWING YOU SO THEIR COST WILL BE EVEN MORE THAN WHAT THE CHARTS SHOWING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT IN OUR PLAN IS TRYING TO HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN USING RESERVES AND INCREASING RATES. NATURALLY YOU COULD COME IN AND SAY OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN USE ALL YOUR RESERVES AND NO RATE INCREASE. 
          UM TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL $42 MILLION OVER THAT 15 MONTH PERIOD THAT WOULD NEED TO COME OUT OF THE RATE MITIGATION FUND. 
          SO IN TOTAL, YOU'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE AROUND $100 MILLION AND A TWO YEAR PERIOD. AND SO ALREADY HAVING A BIG PULL DOWN WITH REGARDS TO THE FEBRUARY EVENT OF 2021, THEN HAVING IT WITH REGARDS TO THIS TYPE OF EVENT WE FELT LIKE THAT WOULD PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH FOR THE RATING AGENCIES TO STOMACH AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME BALANCE BETWEEN USING THAT RATE MITIGATION FIND AND SUBTYPE OF COST INCREASE, AND WE DID GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM ONE OF THE RATING AGENCIES THAT JUST GAVE US OUR RATINGS. UM ONE OF THE CONCERNS THEY DID HAVE WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TOO BIG OF A GAP BETWEEN YOUR COST RECOVERY. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE JULY 1ST TIME FRAME. WE HAVE ANOTHER RATING AGENCY CALLED. IT WILL PROBABLY BE HAPPY IN THIS NEXT MONTH, SO WE'LL KIND OF GET THERE. THEIR FEEL FOR THIS TYPE OF APPROACH, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM THE STANDPOINT WHEN YOU'RE BALANCING THIS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS SUCH AS YOUR RATE CREDIT RATING IMPACTS BECAUSE IT CAN INCREASE YOUR COST OF BORROWING. THERE'S COLLATERAL IMPACTS FROM COUNTER PARTY ARRANGEMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND ALSO JUST THINK ABOUT IT. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF YOUR RESERVES THERE FOR FUTURE TYPE OF EVENTS. AND WE WILL DURING THIS PERIOD WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORING HOW THE MARKET IS MOVEMENT MOVING. I WILL SAY THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF CONSISTENT, UM , CHANGE IN THE RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. IF WE NEED TO MOVE UP, WE SEE MARKET MOVEMENT. WE MAY NEED TO MOVE IT UP IF WE SEE MARKET MOVEMENT DOWN WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN, SO JUST AGAIN WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORING THIS, BUT WE'LL ADJUST THE RECOVERY RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR ACCORDINGLY. SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS IS USING THE JUNE 2022 CHART. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE TWO BAR BAR GRAPH ITEMS TO THE FAR RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. WITH THE TWO CENTS INCREASE . THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE RELATIVE TO THE MARKET BASED UPON AGAIN JUNE 2ND. AND AS I JUST TOLD YOU , THE CHEAPEST RATE THAT YOU CAN GET RIGHT NOW IS 14.7. THE CHEAPEST RATE ON THIS GRAPH WAS 14.4, SO IT'S ACTUALLY THERE'S MOVEMENT UP. MHM. MHM. THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD FOR ME, UM I'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS MANY TIMES. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS RAISING YOUR RATES. TELL THOSE PEOPLE SAID NO. WE HAVEN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE SINCE JANUARY OF 2000 AND SIX AND USUALLY I DON'T THINK THEY BELIEVE ME. BUT THE REALITY IS THE GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT HASN'T HASN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE SINCE JANUARY OF 2000 AND SIX IT'S MORE THAN 16 YEARS. 
          UM. THE DOUBLE EDGED SWORD FOR ME IS UNFORTUNATELY I GET TO BE THAT GUY. AND I DID NOT WANT TO BE THAT GUY. UM BUT IF YOU IF YOU LOOK THE LAST TIME WE HAD THESE BIG RATE INCREASES HIS ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS PRICES. SO THAT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY AS PART OF PART OF THE GAME OF THE UTILITY INDUSTRY IS THAT YOU'RE DRIVEN BY YOUR FUEL COST. ALSO THE TWO CENTS AGAIN. WE'RE EATING INTO ROUGHLY HALF OF THE DECREASE THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS, BUT YET TO ME. THIS WAS KIND OF A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD. TOP OF SLIDE. YOU CAN SAY YES, IT'S GREAT. WE HAVEN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE IN IN OVER 16 YEARS, BUT BUT YOU'RE HAVING A RATE INCREASE. AND THAT REALLY GETS TO THIS NEXT ISSUE. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS GOOD THAT WERE THE LOWEST ON THE 
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GRAPH, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE IN ALL THOSE YEARS AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT IS A RATE INCREASE. AND IT DOES AFFECT PEOPLE. AND SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE AS FAR AS UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE. AND AGAIN, I'LL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO MR SLAY AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE GROUP FOR PUTTING ADDITIONAL WORK ON THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS. UM BUT YOU KNOW IF A CUSTOMER EVEN RIGHT NOW, IF A CUSTOMER IS HAVING SOME TYPE OF ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO PAYMENT, OR EVEN SUBSEQUENT TO THIS WITH THIS RATE CHANGE. UM I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THANK KEVIN WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT HIS FOLKS IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO HELP HELP IF IT'S ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN THE BACK END. SO WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS UP HERE. UM, ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY JUST PUT ME BACK ON THE SCREEN IF THEY COULD PUT THE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM I DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. 
          WE'VE GOT THE CONTACT INFORMATION THERE THE PHONE NUMBER FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL AS WHERE IT CAN BE EMAILED. UM THE CITY HAS A CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT IT TEAMS UP WITH BOTH THE FRIENDSHIP HOUSE AND THE SALVATION ARMY. CUSTOMER SERVICE CONTRIBUTES ROUGHLY $220,000 A YEAR TO THESE PROGRAMS, AND AGAIN, IT'S UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE. G P AND L WILL BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL 50,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. KIND OF PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE. 
          I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY $50,000. IS THAT BIG? IS THAT NOT BIG? RELIANT ENERGY JUST CAME OUT AND SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE A MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP THEIR CUSTOMERS WITH UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE. WE WOULD BE ABOUT 5% OF YOU RELIANT ENERGY'S CUSTOMERS IF YOU TOOK OUR CUSTOMER ACCOUNT, SO IF YOU DID THE MATH THAT $50,000 FROM A RELATIVE PERCENTAGE IS A MILLION. AND IF YOU CONSIDER THE G P, AND L CAN BASICALLY IS ALLOCATED SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE AS WELL OVER $50,000. I WOULD SAY THAT RELATIVELY SPEAKING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER $2 MILLION WHEN YOU COMPARE US TO SAY SOMEBODY LIKE RELYING AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO HELP WITH UTILITY BILLS. IN ADDITION IN THIS PROGRAM IS THE PAID PROGRAM . THIS IS WHERE CUSTOMERS CAN ROUND UP ON THEIR BILL. TO HELP WITH OTHERS WHO ARE HAVING FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR UTILITY BILLS. AND SO THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR. IN ADDITION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO HELP TO HELP WITH CUSTOMERS. ALSO THERE ARE OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES THAT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH, AND THERE'S A LIST OF THOSE THERE AND YOU CAN ALL FIND THIS AT THE WEBSITE THAT'S LISTED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SHEET. UM AND SO IT WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION AS FAR AS CONTACTS AND ONE OF THE ONES I WAS GOING TO SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT IS THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE EVENT COMPREHENSIVE ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THIS IS THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY. IT'S A STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAM AND SOME SOME FOLKS MAY HAVE SEEN THIS ON W W F A AH, IT DOES MORE THAN UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY ALSO HELP WITH AIR CONDITIONING REPAIR COSTS. AS WELL AS AN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. WINDOW AIR CONDITIONING UNITS. 
          SO THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER RESOURCES OUT THERE, BUT I WOULD AGAIN ENCOURAGED THAT ALL OF THESE ENTITIES THAT WE'VE LISTED HERE THEY, OF COURSE, HAVE RESOURCE LIMITATIONS, AND SO GETTING BACK TO THAT SOONER THAN LATER TYPE OF APPROACH. IN ADDITION, EACH ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. SO YOU'VE GOT TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE. UM BUT THIS INFORMATION AGAIN PROVIDED THE WEBSITE THERE WITH DALLAS COUNTY. AND THEN THE PREVIOUS SHEET HAD THE HAD THE WEBSITE THAT WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD LOOK ON IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE. LASTLY EVEN THOUGH THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ACTUALLY PAYING UTILITY BILL, IT CAN HELP WITH LOWERING YOUR UTILITY BILL, AND WE'VE GOT SOME DIFFERENT ENERGY SAVER TIPS OUT ON THE G P AND L WEBSITE. THINGS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, CHANGING YOUR THERMOSTAT. CHANGING OUT YOUR AIR FILTER IN YOUR AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, UM, HAVING A FAN ON YOU? IT MAY NOT CALL THE ROOM DOWN FOR YOU, BUT ACTUALLY COOLS YOU OFF WHEN IT'S DIRECTLY ON YOU SO JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN DO THROUGH THROUGH THE SUMMER TO TRY, TRY TO HELP AND REDUCE YOUR USAGE. AH AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ON THE GPL WEBSITE. 
          THERE WILL BE A LINK ON THE MAIN PAGE OF THE CITY WEBSITE. YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS THESE DIFFERENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION. ON THE UTILITIES WEBSITE WILL HAVE THAT AS WELL. IN ADDITION, THE CITY PRESS FOR JULY WILL HAVE A LITTLE SEGMENT THERE ABOUT THE INCREASE ON THE RECOVERY ADJUSTMENT FACTOR AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT THE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THESE ENERGY ENERGY SAVING TIPS. AH THEN ALSO ON THE 
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CUSTOMER BILLS THAT WILL BE GOING OUT. THERE WILL BE INFORMATION ON THE CUSTOMER BILL ITSELF THAT WILL TALK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THIS OUT SO AGAIN THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS HAVE SOME AVENUES TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT PRESENTATION. YOU ARE THE GUY. 
          YEAH. YOU, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THAT. UM. SOMETHING YOU HIT ON EARLIER AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU JUST COME TO EXPLAIN. LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE REASON IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. THE URQUHART. 
          UP THE FEE. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BUT WHY? THAT DOES NOT APPLY. TWO G P. AND L CAN YOU CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AS TO WHAT? WHAT? THAT THANKS. SO SO THERE WERE CERTAIN COSTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FEBRUARY 21 EVENT THAT YOU COULD ALL I DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY WERE DEEMED, UM IN EXCESS, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE WAY YOU COULD COULD CHARACTERIZE THEM THEY WERE ABOVE THERE WERE COSTS THAT WERE CUT THAT WERE INCURRED THAT WERE ABOVE THE MARKET CAP. AND. NOBODY THOUGHT ON THE TIME TRYING TO GET TOO TECHNICAL. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED ANCILLARY SERVICES COST. NOBODY THOUGHT THAT THE ANCILLARY SERVICES COST WHATEVER COULD GO ABOVE $9000 A MEGAWATT. AND THEY ULTIMATELY WENT INTO THE 20 PLUS $1000 RANGE, SO IT CAUSES ADDITIONAL HARDSHIP WITH REGARDS TO UTILITIES TO THAT HAD TO PAY FOR THOSE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO HEDGE. ANCILLARY SERVICES IN THE COTTON MARKET. THE OTHER THING IS THERE WAS AN ACTION TAKEN BY THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION WITH REGARDS TO, UM, KEEPING THE CAP AT $9000, AND SO YOU HAD COSTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. UM THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VARIOUS ENTITIES TO GO IN TAKE THOSE COSTS THAT THEY INCURRED. AND SECURITIZE THEM, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THEY TOOK THOSE COSTS AND PUT THEM INTO A DEBT INSTRUMENT AND SPREAD THOSE COSTS OUT OVER THE DEBT INSTRUMENT FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. AND SO NOW THE DEBT SERVICE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE HITTING ON THE THESE THIS ERCOT UPLIFT FEE STARTING JULY 1ST SO BASICALLY THESE COSTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WERE THEN PUT IN TO A DEBT INSTRUMENT. AND THOSE COSTS ARE NOW BEING RECOVERED TO PAY FOR THAT DEBT FINANCING. SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE SPREADING THOSE COSTS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, SO IT'S GIVING SOME OF THOSE UTILITIES RELIEF FROM THE STANDPOINT OF. OF TRYING TO RECOVER THOSE COSTS IS BASICALLY WHAT THAT AMOUNTS TO. OKAY. THANK YOU, DEAR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CONSUMER ROBIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DARRYL. FOR THE PRESENTATION, UM. 
          OBVIOUSLY NOT FUN TO BE THAT GUY. BUT. YEAH I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE'S JUST THERE'S JUST NO CHOICE THAT THE VERY SIMPLE MATH HERE IS THAT DESPITE UM. YOUR GREAT EFFORTS AT HEDGING. I MEAN, G P AND L WAS DONE. A GREAT EFFORT HAS DONE GREAT JOB AT HEDGING OVER THE YEARS. THERE'S STILL THAT THAT THIRD THAT'S RELATIVELY EXPOSED AND SHOULD BE. AND SHOULD BE BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF WE WERE 100% HEDGED AND THEN THE MARKET TAKES A REAL DIP. THEN YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT KIND OF BLOODBATH. UM SO DEFINITELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO. NEVER SAW THE I MEAN, YOU KNOW? YEAH. ON AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE HAVE WE DO RISK OVERSIGHT FOR G, P AND L AND YOU KNOW, SO FOR EVERY QUARTER FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN WATCHING. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS COME WITH THE GAS PRICE, NATURAL GAS PRICES AND FOR ALMOST ALL OF THAT, UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR THAT RANGED BETWEEN LIKE $2.70 AND $3.20. I MEAN, LIKE CLOCKWORK FOR FIVE YEARS, SO THIS IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGING ISSUE. IT SEEMS JUST LOOKING AT WHERE THE PRICES WERE TODAY. AH! WE'RE JUST SEEING A LOT OF FAIRLY WILD SWINGS IN THE MARKET IN THE GAS MARKET, AND I THINK ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE PEOPLE AT HOME. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. YOU KNOW THEY ARE GETTING MUCH LIKE OUR ELECTRIC MARKET WHERE IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S 
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BASICALLY FREE MARKET ON THE TOUGH SIDE OF GENERATION DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO GENERATE TODAY? YOU'RE NOT IT'S THE SAME ON THE GAS DO YOU WANT TO SELL GET YOU WANT TO PULL GAS OUT OF THE GROUND TODAY OR NOT? AND WHEN THE PRODUCTION NUMBERS CAME UP SHORT WITH THAT TWO WEEKS AGO, I THINK YOU KNOW THE GAS PRICES WENT UP ABOVE THERE UP ABOVE $9.50. AND THEN WHEN THE. 
          UH WHEN, UH, WHEN? WHEN THERE WAS A FIRE AT THE LNG PLANT. THEY STARTED DROPPING LIKE A ROCK. THEY DROPPED MORE TODAY. AND WE'RE JUST SEEING. IT AND THAT'S ALL JUST THE NATURE TO SOME DEGREE OF THE FREE MARKET. THESE WILD PRICE SWINGS. AND IN A LOT OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY ITS NOT JUST THE SPOT PRICE NEAR THE SPOT PRICE, THE WILD TWINS, AND THAT IS A LOT DRIVEN BY PEOPLE WHO NEVER EVEN TOUCHED GAS. COMMODITIES FUTURES AND DERIVATIVES MARKETS. AND SO I'D ENCOURAGE ANYBODY REALLY WANTS TO GET INTO THE WEEDS AT HOME ON THIS TO LOOK AT THE EFFECTS THAT THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE AND HOW THEY PULL UP THE SPOT MARKET BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE EFFECTIVELY BETTING HUGE SUMS OF MONEY. ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH GAS PRICES, EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER THEY NEVER. THEY NEVER SHIP THEY NEVER RECEIVED. THEY NEVER TOUCH A SINGLE CUBA, FOOT OF GAS OTHER THAN WHAT THEY USE IN THEIR OWN HOMES. SAID ABOUT ROUGHLY CORRECT AND, UM AND. AND TO ADD TO THAT A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS RELATIVELY UNREGULATED. IT'S TRADED ON INTERNATIONAL MARKETS. IF PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO A BUNCH OF THE DODD FRANK STUFF THAT ARE OUT THERE. IT'S PUTTING OUT 5 63. IF PEOPLE WANT TO READ ABOUT THIS STUFF, IN THE EFFECT THAT IT HAS IN AND CREATES THESE KIND OF WILD GYRATING SWINGS AS PEOPLE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE GOING TO UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE GOING TO VEGAS AND SOMEBODY'S LOST A BUNCH OF MONEY. AND WELL, NOW THEY'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOUBLE ENOUGH AND YOU KNOW TO TRY AND RECOVER IT ON THE NEXT SWING, AND SO IT'S AFFECTING ALL OF US. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GONNA HOLD OF THE GAS MARKET AND IT'S JUST IT'S LIKE THE TAIL'S WAGGING THE DOG IN A PRETTY ONEROUS WAY. UM. THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING THE CONCEPT OF A STABLE RATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS OVER 16 YEARS DESPITE THE FACT THAT YES, I HEAR ALL THE TIME HOW GPL CHANGES THE TRAITS ALL THE TIME. I GET THAT COMPLETE. IT'S BEEN VERY STABLE FOR VERY LONG TIME. I THINK THAT GIVES A LOT OF CERTAINTY TO OUR RESIDENTS. UM IN MY HOPE IS THAT I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, KEEPING THIS RIGHT FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. BUT BUT MY HOPE IS THAT ULTIMATELY LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WILL BE ABLE TO BRING THIS RIGHT BACK DOWN ONCE THE MARKETS KIND OF RELAX AND ALL OF THE DEMAND AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THERE'S NO ONE THING THAT'S DRIVING THESE GAS PRICES. IT'S JUST IT'S A COLLECTION OF EVENTS, SO UM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING. I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR ON ONE THING THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IF YOU I THINK THAT LAST SLIDER, SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR OUR BOND RATINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE IMPORTANCE THERE IF THOSE BOND RATINGS SLIT IF WE DON'T RAISE OUR RATES IN THE BOND RATING SLIP. IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE MONEY ANYWAY. IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO COMPOUND ITSELF. THE COST OF WERE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE EFFECT ON OUR BOND RATINGS. IF WE HAVEN'T STARTED HAVING TO PAY A LOT MORE AN INTEREST IT'S A COMPOUNDING PROBLEM. WE CANNOT RISK THOSE RATES. AH THOSE RATINGS GOING DOWN NEGATIVELY IMPACTING NOT JUST G, P AND L BUT EVENTUALLY ALSO COULD IMPACT THE CITIES. BOND RATINGS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AND NOW WE ARE AT ITEM FOUR E TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE 
          [4e. Transportation, Infrastructure and Mobility Committee Report]
AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE REPORT. YOU ALL ARE. YOU'LL LEARN OVER ON MY OWN. IT SAYS I'M ON BUT I'M NOT THERE YOU GO FOR IT. THERE YOU GO. YOU'LL REALLY BE READY TO BE DONE WITH ME, BUDDY. 
          BUT TONIGHT TALK SO MUCH, UM MR MAYOR. THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY COMMITTEE MET THIS AFTERNOON. UM BASICALLY ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TIE UP SOME LOOSE ENDS AND THEN REPORT OUT TODAY SO THAT Y'ALL WOULD KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE WERE. UM UH AND SO THAT 
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THE. TWO OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY PORTEND HEDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MORE. UH WHOEVER OF THEM OR WHOEVER YOU TAKE CHOOSE TO TAKE OVER THE UM TAKE OVER THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE COMMITTEE KIND OF KNOWS THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED. UM AND SO I'VE GOT ONE. I DO HAVE ONE, UH, SLIDESHOW TYPE PIECE THAT WILL GET TO IN A MINUTE. THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE STORM WATER EROSION PROGRAM. WE BROUGHT THIS TO COUNSEL LITTLE BIT AGO. TALK ABOUT CREATING A PROGRAM TO DEAL WITH EROSION IN OUR CREEKS AND STREAMS. THAT'S CAUSED BY STORM WATER COUNCIL WAS GENERALLY APPROVING OF IT SENT IT BACK TO US THE DETERMINATION BY STAFF AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF UM OF THE COMMITTEE. IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND USE, UH, WITH STORMWATER FUNDING IN THE NEXT SIPPY FUN TO STUDY. I THINK THE NUMBER IS 91 MILES. OF CREEKS AND STREAMS. IN GARLAND. UM ANDW MUCH OF THAT NEEDS TO BE ARE MOORED IN WHAT WAY OR YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S WHETHER IT'S USING ROCK WHETHER ACCUSING SOME OTHER KIND OF LIGHTER EROSION CONTROL METHODS. AND SO THE THOUGHT IS TO GO AHEAD. AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL HATE MASTER PLANS OR MAYBE OR JUST TIRED OF THEM, BUT THAT WE DO NEED A MASTER PLAN. WE NEED SOMEBODY TO GO IN AND LOOK AT IT. THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. ACTUALLY, EVERY I THINK FIVE YEARS IT WAS ACTUALLY HAD DOES A STUDY OF ALL OF THEIR WATERWAYS. I GUESS NOWADAYS IT'S ALL DRONE DRIVEN. UM, BUT THE IDEA THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GET AN ANALYSIS OF THAT IT'S BECAUSE AS WE SAT DOWN AND TRIED TO LOOK AT WHAT A PROGRAM. UM HOW PROGRAM WOULD WORK. IT WAS REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT A PROGRAM WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IT COULD GO FROM TENS OF MILLIONS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO DO SO THE THOUGHT IS PARTICULARLY GIVEN. YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE NOW IS GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY. UH VENDOR TO COME THROUGH AND LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF, PREPARE PROGRAM AND THEN COME BACK TO US WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETIME LATE NEXT YEAR. UM, WITH SOME KIND OF PROGRAM. AND SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS WOULD PROBABLY THE AND THAT WOULD THEN GIVE THE COUNCIL YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN THE COMMITTEE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE PUTTING SOMETHING FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO OUR STORMWATER FEE. UM AND THEN JUST KIND OF SEEING WHERE WE ARE, THEN, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE. UM. THE SECOND THING THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THE JUST BRIEFLY WAS THE FLOOD PRONE PROPERTIES PROGRAM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE DO HAVE AN OUTSIDE VENDOR. WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM THERE'S IT'S SOMEWHAT COMPLEX, AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE CAN, UM MEET SOME FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS WILL ALLOW US TO PARTNER WITH FEMA AND GET BASICALLY FEMA TO COVER UP TO 90% OF THE COST, WHICH WILL TAKE THE $4 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED TO THIS PROGRAM AND MAKE IT MORE LIKE $40 MILLION. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY REPETITIVE HAZARD PRODUCT PROPERTIES WE HAD WAS AN 80? DOZEN CRITICAL ONES OR SO YEAH, THERE'S ABOUT 80 PER AND MAYBE A DOZEN CRITICAL ONES, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT 80 PROPERTIES IN GARLAND THAT REPEATEDLY FLOOD AND THOSE ARE THE ONES OF GREATEST CONCERN. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THAT KIND OF FLOOD INTERMITTENTLY, BUT IT'S A REPETITIVE FLOODING ONES THAT THAT WE THINK PROVIDE. UM THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR US, AND, UM AND WOULD ALSO, UM LOWER COST TO THE CITY. WE SPENT MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN 2015. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF FLOODING, FISHING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOUSES AND ADDICTS AND WHATNOT. UM THE THIRD ITEM IT SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. WE HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS UP, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. THAT I SIT ON. UM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IF YOU WOULD, JUDGE, UM WHAT I DID IS I TOOK THE AGENDA FROM JUNE. AND I EXCERPTED OUT A NUMBER OF PAGES FROM THAT TO TRY AND GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THAT COMES THROUGH THE RTC ON A MONTHLY BASIS. UM. AND YOU KNOW, I'LL GET TO THE CONCLUSIONS IN A MINUTE, BUT BUT WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK WILL BE FAIRLY OBVIOUS FOR WHAT WE THINK COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK AT FOR THE NEXT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. THAT ARE 
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RELATED TO THIS. SO THIS IS JUST A AH! THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT FLOWS TO THE ARTIST SEE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR IN MULTIPLE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, THIS HERE IS A PRESENTATION ON THE NATIONAL CLEAN DIESEL FUNDING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. UM WHICH WE APPROVED SOME FUNDING THERE, WHICH INCLUDES IN THIS, YOU KNOW, UH, ABOUT $500,000 TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR CLEAN DIESEL. UM THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE RUN INTO THIS. WE PROVE THESE. 
          THEY COME UP AT ALL TIMES DURING THE YEAR. UM AND WE'LL SEE ALL KINDS OF APPROVALS, THE CITIES THAT MAKE THESE APPLICATIONS WILL PICK UP SOMETIMES 500,000. LAST YEAR, DALLAS HAD IN ONE GRANT OVER 3.5 MILLION PART OF THAT WAS FOR, UH COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS POWERED FIRE APPARATUS. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, GO AHEAD, JUDGE. UM HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, THE SAME MEETING. TEXAS FOLK VOLKSWAGEN ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PROGRAM FUNDING. THIS WAS A LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT. THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SETTLEMENT WITH VOLKSWAGEN OVER THE DIESEL FRAUD ISSUES. A LOT OF THIS MONEY THAT CAME OUT HAD NO STRINGS EFFECTIVELY. NO STRINGS. NONE OF THE FEDERAL STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU WERE REPLACING, UH, AN OLD STINKY DIESEL. YOU JUST HAD TO BE BUYING SOMETHING NEW OR HAD A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE IT. AND SO WHAT? I WANTED TO NOTE HERE AND THIS IS NOT CRITICAL. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. NONE OF THIS IS CRITICAL OF OUR STAFF. UM WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE I DON'T BELIEVE AND I AND I THINK STAFF WOULD SENIOR STAFF WOULD AGREE THE CAPACITY TO APPLY FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME AVAILABLE HERE, BUT YOU LOOK AT ALL THE PUBLIC SECTOR ENTITIES HERE. UM THAT GOT AWARDS OF MONEY AND WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE IN THERE. AND UM, AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S MONEY THAT'S JUST COMING THROUGH. AH THAT IS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, AND WE'RE NOT CAPTURING SOME OF THAT. GO AHEAD, JUDD. UM AND I'M GOING SEQUENTIALLY THROUGH THE THROUGH THE AGENDA, SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THE 2045 MOBILITY PLAN. THE THING ABOUT THE RTC AS YOU'RE PLANNING THINGS SOMETIMES 25 30 YEARS OUT. SO THIS INCLUDES THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE, UH INTERSTATE 30. THAT'S $306 MILLION. THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE FOR THE INTERSTATE 30 PORTION THAT IS JUST IN GARLAND. UM THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT IS IT IS IN THE CURRENT WHAT'S CALLED THE TIP THAT TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THAT'S NOT A FULL REBUILD OF INTERSTATE 30 THAT IS MOSTLY FIXING THE INTERSTATE. AND I'M SORRY. THE INTERCHANGES. IN ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE WITH THE ON RAMPS AND OFF RAMPS. THEN AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THE 6 35 YEAST , WHICH YOU ALL KNOW IS IN PROGRESS AND STILL HAS ABOUT ANOTHER 1.6 BILLION TO GO. AND THEN SHILOH ROAD FOR WHICH THEY HAVE CURRENTLY BUDGETED. AH AN ADDITIONAL 50 ALMOST $55 MILLION FOR SHILOH. THESE ARE THE BIG THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL YOU KNOW, AS WE IDENTIFY THEM WILL BE ABLE TO ADD OTHER PROGRAMS. UM GO AHEAD. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE. THIS IS ANOTHER CALL FOR PROJECTS. UM IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD, JUDD. AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S AWARD JUST MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S OUT THERE TO JUST BUILD ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. DALLAS GETS 200,000 CITY MESQUITE GETS 57,000 YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING TO ALL KINDS OF CITIES. IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO THE BIG CITIES AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THEY'RE A BUNCH OF RECOMMENDED WAITLIST. AND AGAIN WE'RE JUST NOWHERE ON THIS LIST OR JUST NOWHERE ON IT. AND THAT'S NOT A CRITICISM OF STAFF. BUT IT'S JUST WE ARE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE. UH, GO AHEAD. UM THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THIS IS A SECOND OR THIRD ROUND ROUND OF FUNDING FOR ALTERNATIVE FUEL CORRIDORS. AH AND THAT'S A FEDERAL HIGHWAY PROGRAM TRYING TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO OR BASICALLY, IF YOU OWN AN ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLE. THAT YOU'LL KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO CROSS COUNTRY WHILE THIS IS THE ROUTE YOU NEED TO TAKE. THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GET YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGED OR WHERE YOU CAN OR THE ROUTE THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE IF HYDROGEN NATURAL GAS ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF FUELS. UM AND YOU'LL SEE HERE. THE, UM. TECH STARTED GETTING OVER $400 MILLION. TO 
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DEPLOY THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS IS NOT IN CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. BY THE WAY, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE BASICALLY CLOSE TO OUR HIGHWAYS. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS ISN'T PUT IN PUT A CHARGE STATION IN CITY HALL PARKING GARAGE. THIS IS PUTTING A CHARGE STATION OUT ON I 30 PUTTING A CHARGE STATION UP ON 1 90 SOMEWHERE OR ON 6 35 IF YOU GO AHEAD JUDD. UM PROPOSED ALLOCATION. UH TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA IS $51 MILLION. 
          SO THERE'S MONEY ON THE TABLE HERE. GO AHEAD, CHAD. UM. AND THEN THIS ONE IS ADDITIONAL MONEY. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MONEY THAT'S COMING FORWARD. GO AHEAD, JUDD. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A LOT OF THESE THINGS. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE LAST ONE GO AHEAD ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES. UM THERE'S BEEN A REAL PUSH TOWARDS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND SIDEWALKS. 
          THERE WAS DISCUSSION THERE ABOUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMING FOCUS FROM THE RTC ON SIDEWALK FUNDING AS THEY LOOK AT LOCAL TRANSPORTATION IN GETTING PEOPLE , PARTICULARLY GETTING PEOPLE TO PUBLIC TRANSIT. IF YOU GO AHEAD. I THINK THAT'S THE. AND THEN AGAIN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING ON ALL KINDS OF ITEMS, AND I THINK MAYBE THAT WAS THE LAST ONE. THAT'S THE LAST ONE. UM LOT OF THESE. THE PROBLEM IS COUNCILS BY THE TIME AND STAFF CAN TELL YOU BRIAN CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SAT AROUND MORE THAN ONE LUNCH. WHERE I'VE SAID, AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE, BUT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT BY NEXT WEEK. AND UM, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION OF. UM OF THE TIM COMMITTEE IS THAT AH, IS THAT WE PUT A GRANT WRITER AND GRANT WRITING FUNCTION INTO THE CITY BUDGET. WE BELIEVE THAT A GRANT WRITER ON AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED INTERNALLY AT THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY AND FOR ARTS AND OTHER THINGS, YOU'LL GET ALL OF THAT MONEY BACK IN GRANTS. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE FOR ALL THIS TRANSPORTATION STUFF, YOU WILL GET ALL ONCE WE GET THAT FUNCTION TRULY UP AND RUNNING. YOU'LL GET ALL OF THAT MONEY BACK. THERE IS JUST A THERE'S JUST PURELY A FIREHOSE OF INFORMATION. END OF OPPORTUNITIES COMING OUT OF THE RTC AND WE'RE NOT CAPABLE OF REALLY HARNESSING THAT IN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. BUT WE REALLY SHOULD, PARTICULARLY AS WE GET INTO A CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT HERE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH WERE IN A CHALLENGING ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT FOR CITY BUDGETS. UM WARRANT A CHILD. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT CITY FUEL CARS ARE CURRENTLY YOU KNOW, WE RUN IN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF VEHICLES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY VEHICLES THE CITY RUNS. BUT WE WERE ON PATROL CARS EVERY DAY. 24 7, WE RUN TRASH TRUCKS EVERY WEEK. WE RUN ALL KINDS OF VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM THERE'S OFTEN A LOT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR US TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR FLEET. THERE'S OFTEN A LOT OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO MOVE TOWARDS. AH ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE, AND I THINK WE DECIDED THAT IT PROBABLY NEEDED TO GO TO COMMITTEE, PROBABLY TO ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. WOULD BE TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET GRANT WRITING AND PLACE ONCE YOU GET REALLY STRATEGIC PLANNING IN PLACE AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THIS. I MEAN, YOU CAN WRITE A GRANT. BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS FOR. THIS KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY. 
          ONCE YOU GET THAT IN PLACE, SHOULD WE HAVE A POLICY THAT MANDATES FROM A PURCHASING PERSPECTIVE? THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THESE THINGS. NOT THAT WE'RE NOT THAT WERE SLAVED TO IT. NOT THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW THAT WE ABSOLUTELY MUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE EVERY GRANT THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          BUT IF THERE ARE GRANTS THAT ARE FITTING HAVE WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES? UM THE OTHER SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE CONSIDER . WE DO KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE KNOWS THAT ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO , 10 YEARS AGO, THE CITY DID PILOT SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLES. SOME CHEVY VOLTS AND, UM AND I WAS STARTING WITH DARRYL EARLIER ABOUT IT. A BUCKET TRUCK, WHICH WAS MORE LIKE JUST BUYING A GIANT ROCK. UM AND IT BUT WE'RE NOW SEVERAL GENERATIONS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE FORWARD. YOU LOOK AT THINGS AND NOW YOU'RE SEEING MAJOR MANUFACTURERS REALLY COMMITTING TO ELECTRIC. 
          YOU'RE SEEING THINGS LIKE THE F 1 50 LIGHTNING. UM AND WE RUN A LOT OF PICKUP TRUCKS THROUGH THE 
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CITY, AND SO IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GOING TO THESE KINDS OF FLEETS? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S CONVERT ALL OF OUR PARKS VEHICLES TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE THAT'S MORE GREEN IN OUR PARKS ARE GREEN. UM BUT BEFORE THAT, ACTUALLY ACTUALLY MATCH UP THE CAPABILITIES WITH OUR NEEDS PILOTS SOME OF THESE VEHICLES AND THEN START LOOKING AT IF WE CAN START YOU KNOW, TRANSITING, YOU KNOW, WE RUN. YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO TELL WHAT IS SO IT SEEMS TO NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR FLEETS. AND IF WE'RE NOW AT A POINT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE ASK THAT THE COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD THAT NASA CITY TO STAFF TO BUY WITH SOMETHING THERE. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THAT PART. ONE OTHER PIECE. I DON'T THINK WE'LL NEED TO DO THIS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE CONTACT FROM THE RTC RECENTLY ABOUT BUYING A GIS DATA LAYER OF SIDEWALK INFORMATION, WHICH THEY SAY WE DON'T HAVE I NOTE STAFF HAS LOOKED AT IT AND SAY THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE BETTER. THE COST OF IT WAS ONLY $9000, WHICH YOU KNOW, PROBABLY GO ON SOMEBODY'S P CARD. UM BUT THE IMPORTANCE THERE IS THAT RTC IS. IS. I EXPECT RTC TO COME FORWARD LATER WITH MORE SIDEWALK MONIES. AND SO AS WE HAVE IS, YOU KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN ALREADY WENT THROUGH TIM. ABOUT TAKING THE SIDEWALK FUNDING FROM THE BOND AND LOOKING STRATEGICALLY WHERE NEW SIDEWALKS SHOULD GO, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR FUNDING. I KNOW. UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT ANOTHER COMMITTEE HAS ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT SIDEWALKS. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT US WORKING AT VARIOUS CROSS PURPOSES. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT SHOULD PROBABLY ALL COME TO ONE COMMITTEE. UH HUH. SO I THINK THAT COVERS IT. 
          IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO BE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2018 AND I KNOW THAT I WILL HAVE A GOOD FUTURE. VERY GOOD. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS. MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO LITTLE TESTIMONY. TRY IT AGAIN. THERE WE GO. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT JUST KIND OF HAD A LITTLE UMPTEEN AS HIS AS IF HE NEEDS IT TO COUNCILMAN OBEN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIM HAVING HAVING A SET ON RTC IN MY OTHER LIFE, BUT JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AVAILABLE RESOURCES. JUST THROW A NUMBER OUT. THE L. B. J S PROJECTS IS ABOUT 1.7 BILLION, NOT A PROJECT. 64% OF THAT FUNDING IS FEDERAL 36% OF IT IS STATE AND LOCAL 64% OF THAT. AND IT WAS THROUGH THE RTC. AND TRANSPORTATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. TO BRING THAT TO BRING THAT HORSE TO THE FINISH LINE. SO THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY THAT'S THAT THAT. INTERACTION THAT WAS RELATIONSHIPS. ARE SO IMPORTANT. BECAUSE HAD WE NOT. 
          HAD WE HAD THAT PLANE NOT LANDED WHEN IT DID. WE KNEW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS FROM FROM FIVE YEARS AGO, BEFORE ANY CONSIDERATION WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE LBJ PROJECT. 10, 10 AND 10 YEARS IS CONSERVATIVE. SO IT WAS KIND OF THE LAST SHOT, BUT IT WAS THROUGH THE RTC. AND THEIR WORK, AND BILL HALE, WHO'S RETIRED, WHO HAS RETIRED. OVER THERE, SO I JUST WANNA ECHOES. 
          RICHES COMMENTS SAYS TO THE VALUE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES AND WHAT'S OUT THERE. AH AND WHY THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE RTC AND OTHERS ARE SO VALUABLE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AND THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP THE WE TRIED TO GET A TRANSPORTATION. WE DIDN'T BRING IT TO THE LEVEL YOU GUYS DID. BUT WE TRIED SO BUT REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO SORT OF AMEN. WHAT RICH IS SAYING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RICH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. IN THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE. WHICH IS DISCUSSED 
          [5. Discuss Appointments to Boards and Commissions]
APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. TOMORROW NIGHT. AH MAYOR PRO TIM HEDRICK HAS ONE 
          [03:30:02]
AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM WILLIAMS HAS HIS FULL SLATE. OF NOMINATIONS, WHICH HE ALWAYS STAY SO ON TOP OF OUR ALWAYS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT. THAT. HEY YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME ALREADY. SO WE HAVE THOSE NOMINATIONS THAT WILL COME UP TOMORROW NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AH 
          [6. Announce Future Agenda Items]
NEXT IS ANNOUNCED. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I REMEMBER SOMETHING SEVERAL HOURS AGO ABOUT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. BUT NOW I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE HECK IT WAS. AND I DON'T THINK I WROTE IT DOWN. RISK THAT. THANKS. RICH METAL SOMETHING IN OUR SECOND, BUT I'M I HAVE BEEN. SO TO SPEAK. AH! SORRY. IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. UM. SEVERAL ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS THE FIRST ONE WAS, UH, PRICING OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. BUT. FOR PARTIES AND KID PARTIES AND MAYBE ADULT PARTIES OR WHATEVER OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY AND CHARITABLE. WILLIAMS WAS THE SECOND ON THAT. YES, UM THE SECOND THING THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED IS ON THE UM. ON THE PURCHASING. VEHICLES THE SORT OF WHETHER WE OUGHT TO HAVE A TO SEND A SC WHETHER WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS. JUST KNOWING THAT THAT STAFF HAS LOOKED AT POTENTIALS FOR GRANT MONEY. AND CUSTOMER. SMITH IS A SECOND ON THAT. AND THEN AS A AS A THIRD ONE IN THIS MAY ALREADY BE BEING LOOKED AT BY A S C IS JUST OUR COMMITTEE DEFINITIONS AND ANY RULES. WE NEED AROUND THAT, JUST TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE THAT THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO THE RIGHT COMMITTEES AND BEING HANDLED IN THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES AND NOT GOING AWRY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SECONDS ON THAT CANCER. SMITH SORRY. HERE. WE HAVE A MEETING HERE IN A WEEK WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE COUNCIL POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AS THAT'S A PART OF IT WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST ROLL THAT INTO THAT DISCUSSION. KEEP IT AS A KEEPING ALL THAT TOGETHER. THAT WAS EASY. I CAN'T THINK OF. I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER THERE YOU GO. NOW. GO AHEAD. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS IN MIND. BUT I FIGURE I'VE GOT LIKE SEVEN MORE DAYS TO COME UP WITH A FEW AND SEND THEM TO YOU. VERY GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM SEVEN COUNCIL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY 
          [7. Council will move into Executive Session]
COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.87 AND 551. 
          SOMETHING 0.71 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS ONE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE, STAY OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE CITY. AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. RELATED TO SECTION FIVE. NO 251.74 TO THE T. A. B C AND ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION. AND ITEM TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS. THAT THE CITY THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE STARE, EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE CITY AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO MY POSSIBILITIES PROJECT. AN ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAYING AND AT THIS POINT COUNCIL, LET'S UH LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 10 O'CLOCK AND WE WILL RECONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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