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ALRIGHTY

[Transportation Infrastructure Mobility Committee Meeting on June 20, 2022.]

[00:00:02]

FOLKS.

IT IS 4 0 1.

THIS IS, IS THIS, UH, IS ON, THERE WE GO, FOLKS.

IT IS 4 0 1.

MY NAME IS ROB, AND THIS IS THE GARLAND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING ON JUNE 20TH, 2022.

I HAVE WITH ME, MAYOR PRO TEM, DON HEDRICK, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN I ALSO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, ED MOORE, AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER LUMINARIES.

AND WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE APRIL 19TH, 2022 MEETING MINUTES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

THEY ARE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE UPDATE ON THE FLOOD BUYOUT PROGRAM? YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, THE FLOOD BUYOUT PROGRAM, I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ON, ON THAT FRONT WE JUST RECEIVED OR WE'RE ACTUALLY COMPILING THE, THE COMMENTS THIS MORNING IN A MEETING FROM OUR SECOND REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CITY THAT WE FROM OUR CONSULTANT.

UM, THERE WAS A FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE STILL NEED TO CONTACT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT IT.

UM, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY COMMENTS FROM SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DIDN'T OPEN IT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT BEFORE WE RETURN OUR COMMENTS THAT WE COMPILED THIS MORNING, GETTING IT BACK TO THE CONSULTANT.

AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO THE TIM COMMITTEE TO SHOW YOU AT PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING IN JULY.

THAT'S OUR GOAL AT THIS TIME, IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO COMPILER COMMENTS.

IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THEM THAT LONG, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED IT FIRST.

UH, IF NOT, IT WOULD FOLLOW IN AUGUST AT THE AUGUST MEETING, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO SHOOT FOR NEXT NEXT MONTH, THAT JULY MEETING.

UM, SO REALLY WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THE, ON THE UPDATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THAT AT THIS POINT? HOLD ON A SEC.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE SET THIS UP.

ALRIGHT.

YES.

WERE THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING OR ANY BIG CHANGES OR WAS IT JUST LITTLE THING WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU MORE TURNED IT OFF.

SORRY.

THE HIGHEST SCORE POSSIBLE.

IT'S INTERESTING.

IT'S, IT'S NOTHING THAT WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT NOW AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH IT, WE'RE THINKING, OKAY, NOW WHAT ABOUT THIS? AND WHAT IF THIS HAPPENS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT NOTHING REALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY, I WOULD SAY, UM, WE, WE HAVE CROSSED A PATH WHERE WE'RE THINKING THAT, UM, W WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN WHEN WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE GET FLOODING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPRESSION, BUT COMING THROUGH THE DOOR AND WANTING THEIR HOME PURCHASED, WE HAD, WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 10, 12, 15 YEARS WHEN PEOPLE ARE FLOODING THERE, ALL YOU GOT IS BUY ME OUT.

I'M READY TO BE BOUGHT OUT.

BUT SINCE I HAVEN'T FLOODED, SOME PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MIND OR GO, WELL, OKAY.

I REALLY WANT TO STAY HERE.

SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING BY THE TIME WE ROLL THIS OUT AND IMPLEMENT THIS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, UM, FOR THE CITY TO BUY THEM OUT.

UM, SOME IN SOME REGARDS WE THINK THAT THERE COULD BE QUITE A FEW AND THEN IF IT'S NOT RAINING AND FLOODING RIGHT NOW, THEN THERE MAY NOT BE AS MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED.

SO IS THE CONSULTANT STILL OPEN TO POSSIBLY COMING TO SPEAK TO THIS COMMITTEE OR TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL? YES.

YES.

THAT'S IT THAT'S IT THAT'S WORKED INTO THEIR CONTRACT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT IS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. HEDRICK.

UM, I GUESS THAT RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, SELL NOW OR YEAH.

THE MONEY GOES DOWN AFTER THERE'S BEEN A FLOOD.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

UM, CAUSE I THINK WE'RE REALLY, WAS IT, I GUESS 2015 WAS THE LAST SERIOUS FLOODING THERE.

SO JUST BASED ON THE LAW OF AVERAGES, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NOT SHOCK ME TO SEE ANOTHER INSTANCE OF FLOODING SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

I MEAN, I, HISTORICALLY I THINK FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE, IT HAS FLOODED DOWN THERE ABOUT EVERY FIVE TO 10 YEARS.

SO AT LEAST IN THOSE PARTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE IN THE PARTICULAR, PARTICULARLY IN THE, IN THE REPETITIVE HAZARD ZONE, I TRULY HOPE NOT THOUGH.

I HOPE NOT TO GET ME WRONG.

I HOPE NOT TO, BUT I THINK AS I SAID, A PRIOR MEETING, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE NIGHT JUST, JUST THIS PAST SPRING WHERE IT RAINED A BUNCH AND THERE WAS A GOOD SIX INCHES OR MORE OF WATER, UH, ACROSS GLENBROOK.

SO, YEP.

LET'S SEE.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT.

WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT COMING BACK WHEN I'M NOT HERE.

UM,

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I REMEMBER THREE UPDATE ON THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO LET ME DO IT THAT WAY.

ALL RIGHT.

EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, I'M GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD ON APRIL THE 19TH AND JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZING WHAT THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED.

I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED THE, THE AUDIO, THE AUDIO ON THE, ON THE MEETING, AS WELL AS THE, AS THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THE TIM COMMITTEE ACTUALLY AGREED, UH, TO WORK ON AN EROSION STUDY OF ALL CREEKS IN GARLAND, SIMILAR TO WHAT RICHARDSON DID.

I THINK IF Y'ALL REMEMBER AT RICHARDSON DOES THERE'S, I THINK EVERY FOUR YEARS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND THEY STUDY EVERY STREAM AND CREEK IN THE CITY, NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AREAS THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT STUDY.

THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND LAND ALONG ROUTE LIT CREEK BASIN, AND A FEW OTHER CREEK BASINS THAT WE WOULDN'T INCLUDE IN THE STUDY, BUT THE HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS WE WOULD.

BUT, UM, FROM THE EROSION STUDY, UH, THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED A MASTER PLAN COULD BE DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS THEIR CREEK AND STREAM BANK EROSION ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND FROM THAT POINT, CREATE A, BASICALLY A, SOME SORT OF A MASTER PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE EROSION ISSUES OVER TIME.

AND THE TIM COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED ALSO PROVIDING THE FUNDING AND THE ROAD FOR THE EROSION STUDY TO THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION FUNDS AND THE 2023 CIP.

SO WITH, WITH THAT, THE NEXT STEPS ENGINEERING, AGAIN, WE'LL WORK WITH A CONSULTING ENGINEER TO SOLICIT A PROPOSAL, GET A COST PROPOSAL AND IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.

AND ALSO, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE ROSA STUDY, BUT ALSO TO SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND A MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN ENGINEERING WILL INCLUDE FUNDING IN THE EROSION STUDY FOR THE EROSION STUDY AND THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM IN 2023 CIP TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND THEN AFTER ADOPTION, THEN WE'D MOVE FORWARD IN 2023 WITH THE CONTRACT AND, AND THE STUDY ITSELF ALONG WITH PRODUCING A MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD BRING THAT MASTER PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE TIM COMMITTEE FOR, UM, THEIR INPUT AT WHAT NEXT STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE.

SO WITH THAT, JUST A QUICK BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT Y'ALL DECIDED IN THE LAST MEETING, AND I'D BE OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US AT THIS TIME? ANYONE, ANY THOUGHT MY THOUGHT IS JUST TO TONIGHT, REPORT THIS OUT TO COUNCIL AND LET THEM KNOW THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, WE PREVIOUSLY WENT TO COUNCIL.

THEY WERE GENERALLY FAVORABLE ON THE CONCEPT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS, YEAH, THE FIRST STEP IS REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE, TO DO A STUDY IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE.

AND SO JUST MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S COMING, UM, WHETHER BY CIP OR SOMEONE SUBSEQUENTLY DETERMINES THERE'S SOME BETTER WAY TO DO IT, BUT, BUT THAT, THAT THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE A, UM, A STUDY AND THEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OVER WHAT THE PROGRAM SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO COUNCIL PROBABLY WON'T ACTUALLY SEE THE ACTUAL PROGRAM ITSELF FOR ANOTHER, PROBABLY TWO YEARS AT LEA, AT LEAST LATE, I WOULD SAY LATE NEXT YEAR AT THE EARLIEST, IT WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE TIM COMMITTEE FOR ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION.

AGAIN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW LONG A STUDY LIKE THIS WOULD TAKE TO, TO S TO STUDY WHAT NOT.

I THINK WE HAVE 97.

I THINK THAT WAS IN MY LAST PART, PRESENTATION 97 MILES OF CREEKS AND STREAMS IN GARLAND THAT ARE NEVER AS FAR AS SHOULD BE EVALUATED.

THERE THERE'S AT LEAST THAT MUCH.

WE CAN PROBABLY REDUCE IT DOWN SOME MORE.

ONCE WE GET INTO MORE DETAIL, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER AREAS AGAIN, THROUGH GOLF COURSES.

AND OF COURSE THE DUCK, THE DUCK CREEK GREENBELT AREA IS NOT AS, AS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNERS AS IT IS ELSEWHERE NOW, TRAILS AND STUFF.

IT MIGHT BE, WE MAY WANT TO INCLUDE SOME SPECIFIC AREAS ALONG DUCK CREEK.

OH, AND I THINK FOR SOME OF THAT ON THE SCOPING, IT MIGHT BE WORTH LISTEN TO WHOEVER'S DOING THE, THIS STUDY BECAUSE IT MAY BE USEFUL EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT EXPECT TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, OR EVEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, MAYBE HAVE SOME VALUE TO AT LEAST HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S GOLF COURSES OR OTHER THINGS TO HAVE IT ALL LOOKED AT.

SO WE HAVE KIND OF A FULL INVENTORY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? OKAY.

WE'LL REPORT THAT, JUST LOOK COUNCIL, KNOW OUR PROGRESS ON IT TODAY AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT IT'LL BE COMING IN THE CIP OR WHENEVER.

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UH, THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS UPDATED ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.

GOT YOUR SLIDES LOADED ON HERE.

THANK YOU.

I'VE ONLY BEEN ASKING YOU FOR SIX YEARS TO HAVE A WAY TO LOAD AND CONTROL A SLIDESHOW OR OTHER MATERIALS FROM THE HORSESHOE, BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR, APPROPRIATELY FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE TO ME TO SIT HERE AND MOVE IT FOR YA.

UM, SO COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST AS THIS BEING MY LAST MEETING AND ROLL OFF, AND I WILL NOT BE AT THE NEXT RTC MEETING.

I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF YOU TWO, I'M SURE WE'LL BE AT THE NEXT RTC MEETING, MAYBE BOTH.

UM, BUT I, I WANTED TO, TO, TO RAISE A COUPLE ISSUES AND GET SOME CONSENSUS ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON A FEW ITEMS RELATED TO HOW WE ENGAGE WITH THE RTC.

UM, AND ALSO JUST GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF, UH, UH, SOME INSIGHT INTO, UM, KIND OF WHAT A DAY IN THE LIFE OF THE RTC IS ON ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.

UH, I CAN, I CAN, I CAN HAVE THE SLIDE SENT OUT TO YOU.

THESE ARE JUST EXCERPTS FROM, AND THIS IS ALL JUST FROM ONE AGENDA.

THIS IS FROM THE JUNE AGENDA.

THESE ARE JUST SOME EXCERPTS FROM THERE THAT I THINK ARE PARTICULAR INTEREST TO US ON A COUPLE OF POINTS.

UM, SO THE, UM, SO THE, THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS, UM, AND A LOT OF THIS DEALS, WHAT I'M DEALING WITH HERE TALKING ABOUT IS FUNDING RELATED STUFF, MONIES THAT BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND SO THE FIRST ONE, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE MONEY THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE RTC EVERY MONTH.

UM, SO THIS WAS THE NATIONAL CLEAN DIESEL FUNDING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND SUMMARY OF AWARDS.

IT, YOU KNOW, DALLAS GETS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $500,000 HERE.

AND, UM, NOW ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FAIRLY ONEROUS, BUT ON SOME OF THEM, THEY AREN'T ARE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

UH, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE LARGE SUMS, BIGGER SUMS THAN THIS.

YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR DALLAS GOT AWARDED I THINK THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, UH, CNG, UH, UH, FIRETRUCK, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THESE THINGS COME FORWARD.

UH, IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN NEXT SLIDE, THE VOLKSWAGEN ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PROGRAM FUNDING.

AND WHAT I WANTED TO NOTE HERE IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE AWARDS TO PUBLIC SECTOR, SECTOR ENTITIES, THIS IS THE LIST AND IT'S EXTENSIVE.

WE HAVE A LOT, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS GET INVOLVED HERE, REFUSE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, FREIGHT VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, CHARGING STATIONS, ALL OF THIS STUFF.

OUR NAME IS NOWHERE ON HERE.

AND WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR HERE IS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS THAT THIS IS NOT AT ALL A CRITICISM OF STAFF IN ANY WAY.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE LACK, UH, WE LACK, WE JUST LACK THE CAPACITY, UM, TO DEAL WITH THE FIRE HOSE OF, OF POTENTIAL MONEY THAT'S FLOWING OUT OF HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE FUNDS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THE BILL BACK BETTER PROGRAM.

THERE'S JUST, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT FLOW THROUGH THE RTC, ACTUALLY, BILLIONS, REALLY WHEN YOU START CONSIDERING THE OTHER PROJECTS, BILLIONS, EVERY YEAR.

UM, AND AS WE MOVE INTO AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE ARE, UM, WHERE WE ARE ECONOMICALLY STRESSED, UH, OR WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUNDING, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IN ANY KIND OF NATURE WAY.

UM, AND I, AND I GUESS I'M, I'M GETTING TO ONE OF MY CONCLUSIONS, OR ONE OF MY PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL WOULD BE AS PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS IS THAT, IS THAT WE ASK, UM, OR THAT WE SUGGEST THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HIRE SOME GRANT WRITING FOLKS.

I THINK THAT SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS STUFF AND ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WRITING GRANTS, AND THIS IS JUST ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF THINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THEY WOULD EARN THEIR SALARY BACK.

MANY, MANY FOLD, UM, CUSTOMER EVER MORE.

YES, I HAVE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO QUESTION YOU ON, YOU STATED THAT YOU WERE NOT, THIS IS NOT A STAFF PROBLEM, BUT WHAT WE DO IN ORDER TO AVAIL OUR SALES TO SOME OF THESE FUNDS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOUR, YEAH, LET ME, LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THESE.

AND THEN I'LL, I'LL,

[00:15:01]

I'LL KINDA GO THROUGH THAT.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES FOR IT, THIS IS JUST, THESE ARE PIECES OF THE, UM, 2045 MOBILITY PLAN.

I'VE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH GARLAND, KIND OF THE LIGHTER YELLOW, THE FIRST ONE BEING I H YOU KNOW, INTERSTATE 30 EAST, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A $300 MILLION PROJECT IT'S IS SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON BY THE TIME THEY'RE PROBABLY DONE WITH IT.

I SUSPECT IT WILL BE MUCH HIGHER.

UM, THE CURRENT, UH, PART IS NOT LISTED IN HERE.

THAT INCLUDES FROM, I THINK IT'S FROM ZION THAT GOES ACROSS THE LAKE.

THEY'RE BUILDING THAT.

NOW WE GOT THAT INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THERE'S THE 6 35 EAST WITH 1.6 BILLION REMAINING TO FUND ON THAT.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THERE'S SHILOH ROAD, WHICH RTC EXPECTS TO FUND TO THE TUNE OF $54 MILLION.

UH, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF PAGE BY PAGE.

SO THERE'S SOME STUFF IN HERE THAT, SO I'M KIND OF JUMPING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO THE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S ANOTHER CALL FOR PROJECT ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION CALL FOR PROJECTS.

AND THIS WAS A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE FOR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO PUT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE WERE AN APPLICANT THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOSQUITO GOT $57,000.

DALLAS GOT ALMOST 200,000.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US THAT I THINK THAT WE ARE, UM, WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, GO ANOTHER SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN ANOTHER SLIDE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE ON COUNCIL ALTERNATIVE FUEL COAL CORRIDORS ARE BEING SET UP ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, SO THAT IF YOU RUN A HYDROGEN VEHICLE, IF YOU'RE RUNNING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, THEY'RE DESIGNATING THESE CORRIDORS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

LET'S SAY, IF YOU GO THIS, IF YOU GO THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OUT, IF YOU GO THIS WAY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE HYDROGEN ALL THE WAY, OR YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE ELECTRIC OR C N G ALL THE WAY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING THERE, THAT'S, UH, IF YOU GO FORWARD, UH, TEXT DOTS, YOU'LL SEE FROM THEIR TECH STOCKS GETTING $408 MILLION TO DEPLOY EVS CHARGING, UM, EXPECTED ALLOCATION TO THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS TO THE DFW AREA IS EXPECTED TO BE $51 MILLION.

UM, AND WE KEEP GOING DOWN, KEEP GOING.

AND OTHER STUFF THAT'S COMING IN, YOU WILL LOOK AT SAFE STREETS AND ROADS.

UM, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS, AND I'LL TALK IN A MINUTE MORE ABOUT SIDEWALKS, BUT WE TALK ABOUT STREETS AND ROADS, AND THEY'RE ALSO STARTING TO TALK ABOUT PROVIDING SAFE SIDEWALKS AND ALL THAT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

SO AGAIN, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES AND COSTS, YOU COULD SEE WHAT THE ACTIONS ARE.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT A LOT OF THESE HAVE.

UM, IF YOU CAN KEEP GOING TO THE, I THINK THE LAST SLIDE JUG, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS IN BRIDGES, RAILROAD CROSSINGS, OTHER PILOT, RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES, UH, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR US.

AND, UM, AND WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE WAS THAT I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE A FUNCTION.

I MEAN, I GO TO THESE MEETINGS AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE THE DEADLINE FOR THIS FUNDING.

AND I KNOW PAUL GOES TO, TO, TO, TO THE THERE'S, THIS THERE'S A SUBORDINATE COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT THIS IS JUST A MASSIVE FIRE HOSE OF INFORMATION.

AND I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT WE NEED, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER GRANT MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON OTHER SIDES OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ENTERTAINMENT OR ARTS OR OTHER STUFF.

BUT I THINK AS WE GET INTO AN ENVIRONMENT, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE COUNCIL, THAT WE'RE THERE, WE'RE KIND OF SCRUNCHED A LITTLE BIT FOR CASH ON SOME THINGS THAT THIS PROVIDES SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO THE, THAT, THAT WE, AS A COMMITTEE SUGGEST TO, TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADD THIS KIND OF FUNCTION.

PART OF THAT MAY ALSO BE, I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT A STREET AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN REASONABLE GIVEN THE BUDGETING CONSTRAINTS, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD END UP NET POSITIVE BY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND THAT MAY ALSO REQUIRE HAVING A STRATEGIC PLANNING FUNCTION.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST GRANT WRITING, IT MAY REQUIRE HAVING A FUNCTION

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THAT, THAT WE KNOW WHEN THIS MONEY FALLS OUT OF THE SKY, WHICH IS KIND OF HOW IT HAPPENS.

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE STUFF IN HERE AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS STUFF AND IT'LL BE LIKE, YES, THE, THE NPO IN LINCOLN, NEBRASKA, DIDN'T USE THIS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO W WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE IT? DO YOU HAVE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE? AND SO THAT'S THE THING WHERE WE NEED TO BE READY TO SAY, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT.

WE'LL, WE'LL JUMP IN ON THIS.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE SUGGESTION, UH, OR ACTUALLY TWO.

UM, AND THEN I THINK THERE'S A POLICY PIECE OF IT THAT ONCE WE HAVE THAT GRANT WRITING FUNCTION IN PLACE, THAT WE SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, THAT FROM A PURCHASING PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE GET VERIFICATION, THAT, THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN SOMETHING COMES FROM US AND COMES TO US, AND THERE'S A FLEET PURCHASE, THAT THERE'S A, THAT THERE'S A VERIFICATION VERIFICATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, AND SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT AS A STAFF, THAT, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE AND ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THESE GRANTS OPPORTUNITIES, UH, AND THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, FLEET CONVERSIONS TO ELECTRIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF MIGRAINES AND SUGGEST THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM, THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY OUT THERE FOR THAT KIND OF THING FOR MOVING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND WE'RE NOW START TO SEE, I KNOW THAT ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, THE CITY DID PURCHASE A FEW ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

UM, THERE WERE EARLIER GENERATION CHEVY VOLTS AND PURCHASED A, A BUCKET TRUCK FOR G P AND L AND THINGS DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT SO WELL, BUT THIS MIGHT BE A TIME FOR US TO START LOOKING FROM A FLEET PERSPECTIVE AT WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ARE, PARTICULARLY AS WE'RE NOW GETTING, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE FOR OUR FUEL COSTS BETWEEN, BETWEEN POLICE AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WATER DEPARTMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVICES.

I MEAN, WE OPERATE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE OPERATE A LOT OF VEHICLES, UM, AND STUFF.

SO JUST, AND MAYBE THAT STARTS WITH A PILOT PROGRAM OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'LL BE, THERE MAY BE, AND I DON'T SUGGEST THAT WE PURSUE IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PURSUING IT.

BUT IF WE DETERMINED THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE FORD F-150 LIGHTENINGS IS ACTUALLY A USABLE PICKUP TRUCK FOR US, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT CONVERTING OUR FLEET OVER TO THAT FOR, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PICKUP TRUCKS THE CITY OPERATES, BUT MR. FRANKLIN COULD TELL US ABOUT YOU.

IT'S QUITE A FEW.

UM, SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, AND MOST OF THEM DON'T TRAVEL.

I MEAN, THEY TRAVEL THROUGH THE CITY DURING THE DAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT LOGGING, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE MILES DURING THE DAY THAT WOULD MAKE ELECTRIC VEHICLES PROBLEMATIC.

SO IT'S JUST QUESTIONING WHETHER THEY CAN ACTUALLY, WHETHER THEY FIT THE NEEDS.

AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD RECOMMEND TO STAFF, UM, THAT COVERS ALL OF THAT PORTION OF THE RTC STUFF.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? ARE YOU OKAY WITH MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT HERE.

KIND OF SPIT BALLING IN MY LAST MEETING.

SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU, I THINK YOU'RE LIFE, UH, WAIT, HOLD ON.

THERE WE GO.

NOW YOUR LIFE.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS TALKING ABOUT FULL FLEDGED CONVERSIONS OF THESE THINGS.

I THINK PILOT PROGRAMS BEST WAY TO GO FIRST BEFORE WE JUMP WHOLE HOG INTO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE EARLY VERSIONS, WEREN'T QUITE READY AT THIS TIME.

AND, UM, I'D HATE TO HAVE MISSION CRITICAL LIKE POLICE AND FIRE AND HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT SORT OF THING.

IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAMPERS THEIR CAPABILITIES IN ANY WAY, BUT I'M ALL FOR LOOKING AT GRANT THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

MY ONLY CAUTION WITH IS MAKING MENTOR TO LOOK AT EVERY ITEM THAT WE, UM, REQUIRE A GRANT LOOKUP BEFORE WE PROVE IT IS THAT IF THE GRANT DOESN'T QUITE FIT OUR NEED AT THAT TIME, I DON'T WANT OUR PURCHASE TO BE STEERED OFF COURSE, JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T QUITE FIT ONE GRANT WE'RE GOING AFTER ANOTHER ONE AT THAT TIME.

SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING.

PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE A THING TO SEND TO ASC, TO FULLY CONSIDER WHAT A POLICY WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THAT, RIGHT.

COME TO ABROAD, JUST SO THAT I AM, UM, VALIDATED OR THE INFORMATION THAT I'M RECEIVING PRESENTLY, I'M REALLY UNDERSTANDING.

SO WE HAVE A PERSON WHO IS SELECTED TO BE ON THE ROTC COUNCIL, CORRECT? YES.

WE HAVE A SEAT.

[00:25:01]

WE HAVE ONE FULL SEAT ON THE RTC COUNCIL.

OKAY.

WE FIT THE POPULATION REQUIREMENTS ALMOST EXACTLY RIGHT.

OKAY.

THERE ARE SOME CITIES, LIKE IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER CITY, UH, YOU HAVE TO SHARE YOUR SEAT LIKE RICHARDSON AND ADDISON, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES SHARE A SEAT TO IT ROTATES AMONG THEM, BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN, OUR OWN SEAT ON THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT PERSON, USUALLY THEY RECEIVE INFORMATION AND THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING HERE AND THERE AND EVERYWHERE.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, ALONG WITH THAT PERSON, WE NEED SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE PURPOSEFUL THOUGH IN THE WAY OF IDENTIFYING, UH, THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH IN THE WEB OR GRANT WRITING.

SO TO SPEAK THAT WHEN THESE MONIES DO BECOME AVAILABLE, THAT THEY'RE ON TOP OF IT, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE, UH, SOME TYPE OF QUESTIONNAIRE I'D DONE THE SURVEY OR WHATEVER.

SO WE NEED NOT ONLY THE PERSON WHO'S ON THE RTC, BUT WE ALSO NEED SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE PURPOSEFUL IN IDENTIFYING THE GRANTS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY, MY TAKE ON IT IS THAT BECAUSE AS THE RTC REPRESENTS, IT'S MUCH MORE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNCIL ITSELF IS, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, IS A COLLECTION OF LOTS AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STUFF.

AND SO I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW ME IN THE RTC, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE YOUR JOB TO WRITE UP THESE GRANTS.

CAN YOU DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S WAY TOO.

AND, AND YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY, BOY, THAT, AND I SIT THERE AND I SAY, BOY, THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING, BUT IT'S NOT IN MY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S APPLY AND WE DO APPLY.

AND BY LOOKING AT THIS, BY THE WAY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T EVER APPLY FOR STUFF.

WE APPLY FOR QUITE A FEW THINGS AND WE'VE GOTTEN MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS.

WE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, $7 MILLION FOR SIDEWALKS.

WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS FREQUENTLY.

YEAH.

GRANTS.

YEAH.

AND SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T, BUT IT, BUT IT'S FEELS THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING LEFT ON THE TABLE.

THAT IF WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS DEDICATED TO THIS, WE COULD START BRINGING IN THAT MONEY.

IS THE, OKAY.

IS IT GENERAL, IS THE GENERAL IDEA, IS THAT BECAUSE BY THE TIME IT COMES TO THE RTC, BUT BY THE TIME IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL COUNCIL, IT'S EITHER ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED OR ONE OF THESE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DEADLINE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING WAS JUNE 9TH AND THE DEADLINES LIKE JUNE 18TH.

AND UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THE SHELF READY TO GO.

BUT I THINK THAT SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY MORE INVOLVED AS A, ALMOST LIKE A DAY TO DAY ALMOST LIAISON, UM, THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN JUMP IN ON THAT.

OH, PAUL, IF YOU HAVE ANY OPINION ON THAT, ON WHAT GOES ON AT THE RTC, BUT IT'S A FIRE HOSE OF STUFF.

AND A LOT OF IT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, PAUL'S THERE, HE'S TRAINED, HE'S TRANSPORTATION, BUT A LOT OF IT IS ACTUALLY MUCH BROADER THAN THAT.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT WE DO NEED SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO BE PURPOSEFUL NESTOR.

THEIR REAL JOB IS THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK PAUL WANTS THAT JOB.

I WOULD JUST SAY, I, I MEAN, WE DO DO THAT NOW AND THERE'S, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THERE'S LEFT ON THE TABLE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF IT THAT WE, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO US OR WE MAKE A PURPOSEFUL DECISION TO NOT GO AFTER.

SO, OKAY.

I MEAN, I'LL SAY PAUL'S DONE A GOOD JOB SEVERAL TIMES AFTER RTC MEETINGS, HE'LL FORWARD EMAILS OR COME BACK WITH, HEY, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO A MANPOWER ISSUE OF, OKAY, HERE'S, WHAT'S REQUIRED.

AND IT'S USUALLY PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND TOO.

AND IT'S LIKE, MAN, WE JUST CAN'T, WE JUST CAN'T GET THAT RIGHT.

UH, GET TO THAT DEADLINE.

UM, AND SO A LOT OF CITIES YOU SEE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE, TWO OR THREE GRANT WRITERS THAT ARE ON STAFF IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE KIND OF INTERDEPARTMENTAL, YOU THROW SOMETHING AT THEM AND, UM, THEY'LL PURSUE THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S SORT OF LEFT TO THE DEPARTMENTS TO COME UP WITH THE MANPOWER TO DO IT.

SO, UH, PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, OFTEN APPLIES FOR THE, UM, TRAIL GRANTS THROUGH THE STATE.

AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT.

UH, WE KNOW WE HAVE LOTS OF TRAILS TO BUILD, THEY PLUG, PLUG IT INTO A GRANT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

BUT, UH, IT'S, IT REALLY DOES BOIL DOWN TO A MANPOWER ISSUE FOR US ON, ON, ON, ON A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THEN TO ASK THE HORROR SOMEONE OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTLY TO PURSUE.

YEAH.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO IT, SEE HOW MUCH WE NEED TO PAY SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.

WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE US TO SORT OF PAY FOR THAT PERSON AND GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY THROUGH THE GRANTS? I I'D FREQUENTLY, YOU SEE CITIES THAT REALLY DO THAT POSITION PAYS FOR ITSELF AND THEN SOME, UH IT'S BUT WE'RE KIND OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

SO IT'S, HOW LONG IS

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IT GOING TO TAKE TO DO THAT? HOW LONG DO WE NEED TO CARRY THAT POSITION? UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MANY DO WE NEED TO REALLY BE SUCCESSFUL? AND, UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS IF THE COMMITTEE WERE TO RECOMMEND THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. YOU GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH RECOMMENDING THAT.

SURE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, OKAY.

PRIVATE COMPANIES HAVE THAT ALL THE TIME WHERE THEY CHASE AFTER PROPOSALS, THIS SIMILAR KIND OF ROLE THAT KEEP IT AS LONG AS IT PAYS FOR ITSELF.

IT JUST SEEMS, I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE WOULD, AND THERE MAY BE, AND I AGREE, PAUL COMPLETELY, THERE MAY, WE DO APPLY FOR A LOT OF THINGS WE DO APPLY FOR, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WE DON'T, AND MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

SOME THINGS ARE KIND OF MORE POLICY DRIVEN WITH RESPECT TO, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING UP YOUR VEHICLES OR, OR WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO CONSIDER THERE.

I RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE FLEET THAT, YOU KNOW, SPLITTING THAT FLEET BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IS A CONCERN.

BUT YEAH, I THINK IT HELPS US TO BE A LITTLE BIT FORWARD-LOOKING ON THAT.

UM, ONE OTHER PIECE WAS THAT, UM, UH, WE'VE BEEN OFFERED, THE RTC HAS OFFERED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE GIS LAYER.

THEY'RE DOING KIND OF A GROUP BUY OF GIS LAYER OF SIDEWALKS.

AND SO, UM, FOR, I THINK THE TOTAL WAS $9,000 FOR THE SIDEWALK LAYER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN GIS LAYER? SO IT'S A, WHAT ARE WE, HOW DOES THE PURCHASE, YEAH, PAUL MIGHT BE ABLE TO BETTER DESCRIBE WHAT A GIS LAYER IS, BUT I TALKED WITH OUR GIS FOLKS ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY BETTER THAN WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING US.

SO I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL PERHAPS WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM THEN IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY INEXPENSIVE THING.

IT'S AERIAL SURVEY.

IF WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF OUR SIDEWALKS.

UH, AND I DO EXPECT THAT JUST BASED ON COMMENTS FROM THE RTC THAT, UH, CLASS MEETING THAT THEY WILL START TO SEE SIDEWALK MONEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

UM, THEY TALKED A LOT, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, LOCAL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'VE PUSHED ON.

UM, HAS ANY OF IT BEEN RELATED DALLAS ADOPTING THEIR SAFE STREETS, DRAT? WELL, IT WAS DRAFTED.

I THINK IT'S ADOPTED THEIR SAFE STREETS PROGRAM IN FRONT OF REDUCE PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES TO ZERO.

IS THAT DRIVING A LOT OF THEIR DISCUSSIONS OR AROUND SIDEWALKS AND THAT SORT OF THING? YEAH, IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR.

IT WASN'T AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION.

IT'S PROBABLY A, SOME RELATION TO THAT.

I WOULD SAY IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME FOR THAT.

SOME RELATION TO THAT.

UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THAT, UM, MICHAEL MORRIS WHO'S, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON GETTING PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND THAT IF YOU INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND HE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE ABILITY, PEOPLE GET TO A BUS STOP OR THINGS LIKE THAT, MASS TRANSPORTATION TO CAUSE THE TIRE GOAL, NOT THE ENTIRE GOAL AND MAJOR GOAL OF THE RTC IS GETTING US TO ATTAINMENT ON OUR OZONE NUMBERS AND OTHER STUFF.

SO ANYTHING THEY CAN DO TO REDUCE VEHICLE TRIPS BY GETTING YOU TO MASS TRANSIT OR, OR WHATNOT, IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY SUPPORT.

IT WAS NOT JUST MASS TRANSIT THEN PUSHING FOR ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL, THAT EMISSIONS THEN EMISSIONS IS DRIVING IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S ALL.

AND IT'S ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

LIKE IN EVERYTHING, JUST LIKE, YEAH.

IT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY PUSH ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY PUSH THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY PUSH CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, JUST ANYTHING THAT REDUCES, UM, THE, THE NUMBER AND DURATION AND FREQUENCY OF TRIPS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE.

THERE WAS SUPPORT.

I CANNOT TELL YOU OFF HAND WHAT, WHAT, UH, CITY WAS IN, BUT IT WAS, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT ENGAGING IN SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE STUFF WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE RTC HELPS FUND OFFICE BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING IN THE IDEA THAT, THAT PEOPLE JUST TRAVEL LOCALLY, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO DRIVE LONG DISTANCES, TO GET TO WHEREVER THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESSES.

SO ANYTHING THEY CAN DO, IT'S BASICALLY ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO IMPROVE OUR CHANCES OF REACHING ATTAINMENT.

SO, UM, AND WITH THAT, AND I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET TO THE SIDEWALK PIECE, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT'S TAKEN UP THE ISSUE OF SIDEWALKS.

UM, AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT

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TO DO ABOUT THAT, EXCEPT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO PUT AN ITEM, UH, IN FOR ASC TO LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, THAT OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROLES ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AND THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

WELL, SOME OVERLAP IS, IS PERHAPS INEVITABLE IN SOME THINGS, BUT, UH, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GET OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT TIED UP IF WE HAVE TWO COMMITTEES WORKING ON EFFECTIVELY THE SAME ISSUE AND SOMEONE ELSE HAS WORKING ON SIDEWALKS AND ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE RTC IS DOING OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE, THEN IT MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RTC.

COOL.

VERY GOOD.

THE FINAL ITEM TO REVIEW OF PENDING COMMITTEE ITEMS LIST.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OR LET YOU ALL KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

I THINK WE HAVE ALMOST EVERYTHING.

I THINK THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S THANK YOU.

SOME OF THESE, I THOUGHT WE HAD ACTUALLY REPORTED OUT, UM, 2018 AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS COMMITTEE, I GUESS, SO I ALMOST, SOME OF THEM SEEM LIKE THEY CAN BE REMOVED FROM THIS LIST.

UH, EXAMPLE.

I REMEMBER SIX.

YUP.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'VE MENTIONED.

DID WE DISCUSS THAT BEFORE THE WHOLE COUNCIL WE DID ON THE, IN MAY ON THE THING WE FRESH? YEAH.

IT'S RECENTLY DISCUSSED IT.

THAT IT'S BASICALLY DEAD AT.

YEAH.

UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH TO BE DONE THERE.

THAT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON TXDOT AND OTHER FOLKS.

UM, NUMBER EIGHT, SPEED HUMPS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STILL KIND OF OUT THERE.

W WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE ASKED KIND OF TO DO SOME STUDIES ON TEMPORARY SPEED HUMPS AND WHATNOT, UM, POTHOLE REPAIR.

I THINK WE CLEARED THAT, UM, THE PCI POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IS SOMETHING THAT BASICALLY GOT, GOT TABLED.

WELL, WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING PCI REALLY ANYMORE.

AND I THINK AT THE TIME WE DISCUSSED THAT SHE, IT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THE NEW PRO, ONCE WE GET THE NEW DATA PROGRAM IN WHERE WE LOOKING AT SMALLER THAN JUST STRAIGHT SEGMENTS, WE JUST DECIDED THAT IT PROBABLY WASN'T NECESSARY, BUT THEN MAY WANT TO BE REVISITED BY THE COMMITTEE AT SOME FUTURE POINT, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT I HAD TALKED TO ABOUT DOING THIS, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO, THEY WERE, I'M SORRY, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT DOING SIDEWALKS, BUT THEY COULD DO, THEY COULD DRIVE DOWN AND GET A CENTIMETER BY CENTIMETER VIEW OF YOUR STREET AND OF COUNTER TELEPHONE POLES AND YOUR FIRE HYDRANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF THERE'S SOME PUSH TO DO ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY, THEN IT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED IN ORDER TO GET A FULL INVENTORY OF THE CONDITION OF ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 10, THAT WAS EFFECTIVE WHEEZY.

THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY TURNED INTO THE,

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UH, THE BRUSH TRUCK PROGRAM WHERE WE TRACK EACH VEHICLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS ALL RELATED TO THAT.

IF WE EVER WANT TO EXPAND THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, UM, ITEM 15, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL THAT Y'ALL WILL CONTINUE HERE.

WE'LL REPORT OUT PART OF IT TODAY.

UM, AS AN INTERIM REPORT STREET RECONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, I THINK WE DID, WE REPORT THAT OUT.

STEVE, THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT NOW, WHETHER YOU REPORT TO COUNCIL ON, I DON'T REMEMBER WITH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD, I IMAGINE IT INVOLVE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE WIDTH OF RIGHT AWAY AND YOUR CONSTRAINTS ON PAVEMENT AND YOU CAN'T WIDEN THE STREET NECESSARILY.

GIVEN THE, THAT WAS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING THE PARKWAY AND GOING TO A CITY CURB ON SOME LOCATIONS IN ORDER TO GIVE A WIDER, UH, STRAIGHT WIDTH.

AND I THINK THE DECISION, UH, TO THINK THAT THE DECISION WAS THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD KEEP THAT OUT.

THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION AS WE REDO SOME OF THESE STREETS.

I THOUGHT WE HAD REPORTED TO THE COUNCIL, BUT MAYBE NOT.

WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, SEE IF IT GOT REPORTED OUT.

UH, AND WE DID DISCUSS COST SHARING POLICIES FOR STREET HUMPS.

WE BROUGHT THAT TO COUNCIL BASICALLY LET'S POST OUR DEMONSTRATION FOR THE FIELD TRIP FOR, RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE, WHATEVER WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT CAME TO COUNCIL.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE THIS SUMMER.

SO I THINK THAT COVERS DOES THAT COVER EVERYTHING? I THINK SO.

HOPEFULLY WHOEVER TAKES OVER THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE LEFT YOU IN GOOD HANDS.

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, UH, HISTORICALLY THAT MAY BE A GOOD REASON FOR THE INTERMITTENT CHANGES ON COUNSELED.

I'M LIKE DYLAN, I WAS HERE WITH YOU FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

MAYBE HAVE A LOT MORE HISTORY THAN ON ONE YEAR NOW.

IT'S JUST ONE.

IT WAS A SMITH AND NICKERSON BEFORE I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF ANYTHING ANYMORE.

ALL RIGHT.

IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO NEED AN ENGINEERING BACKGROUND FOR THIS.

I THINK YOU SEE WHAT'S COMING HERE.

I FIGURED IT'S COMING.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, I FIGURED AS MUCH.

YEAH.

I'M HAPPY TO JUST SAY HAPPY TO, I'M SURE YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

I KNOW THAT.

UM, AND I, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING AND JUST, I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COMMITTEE.

I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE SINCE ITS INCEPTION A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND I KNOW THAT I LEAVE IT IN GOOD HANDS.

SO THANK YOU GUYS.

LET ME SAY THIS TOO.

JUST LOOKING AT THE, UH, INFORMATION ON THE FRONT OF THE SHEET, A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TAKING PLACE DOWN IN DISTRICT THREE THOUGH, AND STARTED IN 2018.

IS THERE A LOT OF THAT ALREADY, UH, ENDED COMMITTED OUT OR WE JUST, WE MEAN, DO WE, DO WE NEED STAFF TO GO BABY THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST AND FIND OUT AND REPORT BACK TO US? WHAT HAS ALREADY, UH, WELL, ANYTHING THAT'S REPORTED TO COUNCIL HAS DEFINITELY BEEN DONE.

OBVIOUSLY NUMBER FOUR IS AN ITEM THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK.

IT'S GOING TO COME BACK NOW PRETTY SOON.

THERE'S PROBABLY AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH COUNCIL.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UM, EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DESIGN OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON , INCLUDING THE BASS PRO EXIT RAMP ITEM, NUMBER TWO, RIGHT.

THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

I THOUGHT BEFORE 2019 AND THAT'S ALREADY, I MEAN, THAT'S BEING BUILT, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THEY CAME TO, THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED HOW WE WANTED THE EXIT TO WORK ABOUT FLIPPING THE STACK.

WOULD THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE YEARS AGO.

UM, THE QUARTER EXPANSION FOR BASS PRO TO INDICATE 36 35 IS, IS, WELL, THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DONE THAT YET WITH THEY'RE WORKING, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S WEST THAT'S BETWEEN 6 35 REALLY UP TO .

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED IS, IS THAT THERE WAS, UH, WE GOT, UH, ZION RAMP AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF INCLUDED OR ADDED TO THE BRIDGES PART OF IT GOING OVER THE LAKE.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF IT.

SO THIS IS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW,

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YOU KNOW, THE QUARTER EXPANSION, I DON'T KNOW, PAUL, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT.

I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORK, BUT, BUT, BUT THE, BUT THE KIND OF, UH, THE BIG SHINY OBJECT IS, IS CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THERE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH 3 45.

SO WE'RE NOT HEARING AS MUCH IN MY RECOLLECTION IS IT'S NOT REALLY UP.

IT'S MOSTLY JUST REDOING THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS NOT REALLY REDOING THE MAIN LANES ON , RIGHT? YEAH.

THERE'S THERE, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S AN ACTIVE PROJECT AND THEY ACTUALLY SPLIT OUT THE 6 35 TO BASS PRO SECTION.

AND THAT'S, THIS IS A SEPARATE SECTION NOW.

SO THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.

IT IS MAINLY CHANGING THE RAMPS AROUND AND THEN ALSO, UM, FLIPPING SOME OF THE INTERCHANGES, LIKE BASS PRO, BUT THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S PART OF THE, THAT'S PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT THAT STARTS THERE AND GOES OUT TO THROUGH ROCKWALL COUNTY ALL THE WAY UP TO HUNT COUNTY LINE, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL.

NOW WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS FUNDED AND DONE.

UM, BUT THE, BUT THE REST OF IT IS IT'S, IT'S BEING PLANNED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IN PLANNING STAGES.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY, WHOEVER GOES TO RTC WILL WANT TO KIND OF KEEP UPDATED ON THAT AND INTERFACE WITH, WITH TEXTILE AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT KEEPS MOVING ALONG.

BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE SCALE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON 6 35.

THEY'RE NOT REBUILDING, THEY'RE NOT MAJORLY EXPANDING, BUT, BUT THE, FOR THE MOST PARTS, IT'S AT THE EXITS THAT ARE IN GARLAND OR KIND OF NOT UP TO CURRENT DESIGN STANDARDS, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.

THE ENTRANCE, THE EXIT RAMPS ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.

AND SO THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD REVERSE THAT.

SO THAT THEY'RE MUCH FURTHER BACK.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD FUNCTION MUCH, MUCH BETTER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, I THINK THAT COVERS MOST OF WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS, SIR.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE ALRIGHT WITH THAT? WE, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.