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OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

IT MIGHT BE EARLY I JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL SATELLITE OVER THERE.

I ASKED HIM, HE SAID THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

TELL ME TO WEAR SUNGLASSES.

VICKI.

I DID THAT IN A VERY NOSTRIL.

YOU DIDN'T PRESENT IT THAT I SEE IT WAS TAKEN TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT.

DID YOU NOT SAY WE'RE A SECOND CLASS? I SAID, BUT I OFFERED THAT AS A, AS A POLITE SUGGEST.

THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IF, IF THAT COMES TO FRUITION, YOU'D BE, YOU'D BE AT THE HIP IS BOARD MEMBER HERE IN THE TRUCK.

SHE SAID, MS. LUMPKIN, DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID? NO.

NO.

I SAY THAT.

COME TO FRUITION.

YOU HIT THIS BOARD MEMBER HERE.

IF THIS BOARD MEMBER, OH, WELL THEY'RE IN THE CAR.

CAN I GO GET THEM? ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 6:00 PM.

JANUARY THE 13TH, 2022.

THE PROPERTIES, THE CITY OF GARLAND PROPERTY STANDARDS, BOARD PRE MEETING IS NOW CALLED INTO SESSION.

EVERYONE I'M ASSUMING HAS A, AN AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU IN YOUR PACK.

TODAY'S TONIGHT'S PACKET.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT, PLEASE, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING OFF.

THE ASSUMPTION THAT EVERYONE HAS A PACKET, UH, THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, UM, WE HAVE EVERY BOY, EVERY DISTRICT HAS BEEN BASICALLY FIELD TO SELL ONE.

WE GOT ONE VACANCY, CORRECT? RICK? UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

UM, IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL TO FEEL MANY VACANT POSITIONS IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE, BUT I, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY, UM, THAT POSITION'S BEEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME AND WE ANTICIPATE A, UH, WITH AN ELECTION COMING UP SOMETIME SOON THIS YEAR, UH, WITH THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M SURE HE MIGHT POSSIBLY GET A NEW BOARD MEMBER AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

UH, AS EVERYONE IS AWARE WHERE GOING THROUGH ANOTHER PEAK IN THIS PANDEMIC, SO VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND, AND, UM, NAVIGATING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC AND THE RISK THAT WE, THAT WE EXPOSE OURSELF IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

SO WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT THIS, UH, THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A SAFE, SAFE MANNER TO KEEP ALL OF US SAFE AND OUT OF HARM'S WAY IN REGARDS TO BEING, UH, EXPOSED.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR TAKING TIME OUT TO COME AND YOUR, UH, YOUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION IS TRULY APPRECIATED AND WE ARE GOING FORWARD ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

THE SECOND ITEM IN THE PRE-MEETING IS THE BOARD CERTIFICATIONS.

UH, I KNOW LAST MEETING, WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SWEARING IN AND ACKNOWLEDGING TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS MS. MS. BELL WOULD REPRESENT THE DISTRICT FORWARD.

WE LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU.

WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T SCARE YOU OFF.

SO THERE'S GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK WITH US AGAIN.

MA'AM AND, AND, UH, TAYLOR EARNEST.

WELCOME BACK AGAIN.

HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAD A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE,

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UH, FROM THE FIRST MEETING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, CERTIFICATIONS, WE GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE CERTIFICATIONS OF ALL OF OUR, OUR CURRENT AND NEW BOARD MEMBERS WE HAVE.

UM, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY, UH, HAS COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE CERTIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE ONE, UM, WE HAVE ONE, UH, CALL THE BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF TONIGHT.

IN REGARDS TO MR. SHELL, WE MISSED YOUR LAST, LAST, UH, MEANING THEY LOCKED YOU OUT.

OH BOY, WE GLAD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS TIME.

SO SINCE YOU WERE NOT SWARMING IN SWORN IN, AT THE LAST, UH, AT THE LAST, UH, PREMIUM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT BUSINESS, THAT ORDER OF BUSINESS AT THIS CURRENT TIME, WE'RE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO COME FORTH, OR IF HE CAN STAY WHERE HE IS, HOW DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? YOU READY TO RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE AND THE PROPERTY PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD OF THE CITY OF GARLAND AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES IN THIS STATE.

SO HELP YOU, GOD HAS BEEN SWORN RIGHT? MRS. SHOW.

WELCOME.

WELCOME ABOARD ONCE AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, NOT PRE-MEETING AS AGENDA, ITEM, NUMBER FOUR, TRAINING ON THE USE OF EQUIPMENT TRAINING ON THE USE OF EQUIPMENT.

WE TEMPORARILY TOUCHED ON SOME OF THESE BASIC FUNCTIONS, BUT ALWAYS A REFRESHER OR RETRAINING.

RETRAINING IS ALWAYS NECESSARY.

AS TECHNOLOGIES ALWAYS IS ADVANCING.

SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR OUR STAFF TEAM TO, UM, TO SHOW US, UH, TO CONTINUE THE TRAINING OF THIS, OF, UH, OF THE SOPHISTICATED EQUIPMENT WE GOT BEFORE.

SO BASICALLY WHEN WE HAVE TO DO A VOTE, UH Y'ALL KNOW, SOMEONE HAS TO DO A FIRST WORLD TREND.

SOMEONE HAS TO DO A SECOND MOTION.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO VOLUNTEER TO DO A MOTION ON THE SCREEN AND LET ME CHANGE THE LEAD SO, AS YOU'VE SEEN HERE ON THE, I THINK YOU SHOULD SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN TOO.

YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ONE MOTION AND THEN SECOND, UM, AFTER THAT I, MYSELF, AFTER MR. PERRY'S OR AT, LET ME KNOW THAT WE'RE READY TO TAKE A VOTE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SET IT UP OVER HERE.

AND THEN EVERYONE LOVED SO NOW IT'S SET UP TO VOTE.

SO IF YOU AGREE TO SAY, YES SO AFTER THAT, AFTER EVERYBODY VOTED, THE RTS MIKE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER, THAT'S THE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

AND THAT SHOWS UP AND JUST THE CARRIERS QUEUE KNOWS WHO'S WHO'S LOOKING TO SPEAK ABOUT AN EMOTION.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TRY IT AND YOU'RE NOT PRESENT SOMEONE PRESSED THAT BUTTON.

AND SO LILY, WHEN THERE'S A REQUEST TO SPEAK, IT WAS WHAT TUBE WOULD THAT SHOW UP IN? USUALLY WHEN WE GET TO THE VOTING SCREEN, ALL THE SPEAKING HAS BEEN DONE.

SO AFTER THIS SCREEN, I'LL TAKE IT OFF, I'LL RECORD THE VOTE, AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, HERE, WHEN SOMEONE REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING A VOTE.

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP YET.

DON'T PUT IT ALL RIGHT.

UM, BUT YOU ALREADY CAN SEE IT.

YOU DON'T SEE THE MOST NEXT TO YOUR NAME.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T PRESSED THE BUTTON, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN.

WE COULD SWITCH BETWEEN I'LL RECORD THE VOTE.

SO YOU'D GO BACK TO THIS AND BACK TO THAT.

OKAY.

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WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM AFTER THAT.

AND THEN WHEN THERE'S A REQUEST TO SPEAK BY A BOARD MEMBER THERE, MIKE, I HAVE TO, I HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE THEN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE TURNED DOWN.

YES.

OKAY.

I LIKE THESE.

SEE VICKY AND THE CUTE RIGHT NOW.

NO, I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE HOMETOWN.

OKAY.

I DO NOT SEE IT.

OKAY.

I SEE VICKY.

SO I HAVE TO HIT HER NAME.

AND I HIT, I HIT KAITLIN.

RIGHT? I GET THAT.

JUST HAD TO VERBALLY ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN TURN ON LIKE ALL THE MICS AS FAR AS YEAH.

BECAUSE HE USUALLY SELLS UP.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

VICKY'S HIT REQUEST TO SPEED AND THAT'S IN YOUR QUEUE.

AND THE GUY THAT SITS THIS OFFICE.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST SO FORTH FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY GOT TO HAVE A HOT MIC AND THEN, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

EVERYBODY'S MIC IS HOT.

YOU CAN'T TALK TO THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, THEN WRITING HOW MANY OTHER QUESTIONS EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH, HOW THE VOTING WORKS.

REALLY, THE ONLY BUTTONS WE'LL BE USING IS A WAY TO DO ABOUT, SO YOU'LL, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE SCREENS WITHIN THE FIRST TWO, THEN THE SECOND ONE WILL FIT AND THEN I'LL SET IT UP TO RECORD THE VOTES AND THEN EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO.

OKAY.

THANKS LILY.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE, THE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT TONIGHT? ANY MORE QUESTIONS ARE YOU ABLE TO TURN ON AND OFF THE REASON I'M ASKING IT'D BE BETTER TO LEAVE THEM OFF.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT, SAY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN TURN IT ON? I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE THAT.

THE ONLY IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WHEN THERE WAS A REQUEST TO SPEAK, WHEN I HIT THE BUTTON FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, IT TURNS IN MY PHONE AND WE'RE HAVING SOME COMPLICATIONS THIS EVENING THAT DOES NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

AS FAR AS HAVING THE CAPABILITY OF TURNING EACH MEMBER'S, UH, ON AND OFF, I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

AND IF Y'ALL WANTED TO REQUEST TO SPEAK, I'M ABLE TO DELAY FROM MY SCREEN.

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BUT, UM, YOU JUST SORT OF WANT TO HAVE, UM, MR. PERRY IN THAT PART.

SO I'LL BE ON THE LOOK OUT THERE FOR YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YOU SAID THE EQUIPMENT TONIGHT, SEEING NONE.

MY NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LEFT'S RISK ATTORNEY TO EDUCATE US ON THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.

UM, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO EDUCATE MUCH, JUST GONNA REMIND YOU OF THE, UH, UH, IF I GET A LITTLE LOUD OR LOUDER THAN NORMAL, UH, I'VE GOTTEN HERE INFECTION.

SO I'M NOT HEARING VERY WELL, I WOULD WANT TO HEAR.

UH, AND SO I MIGHT BE A LITTLE LOUD TONIGHT.

UH, I USUALLY DON'T NEED A MIND.

AND SO IT MIGHT BE REALLY MAD.

UM, UH, ROBERT'S RULES WAR, UH, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW IS KIND OF THE FUEL THAT WE USE FOR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE AND HOW TO PROCEED DURING OFFICIAL MEETINGS.

AND IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN LONG BEEN AROUND SINCE 1876.

UH, IT WAS FIRST PUBLISHED BY A GUY NAMED HENRY MARTIN, ROBERT, WHICH I'VE GIVEN THEM.

IT DOESN'T HAVE AN S ON THE, AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME HE WAS PROBABLY ROADWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, UH, BUT BASICALLY IT'S A, IT'S A WAY TO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEETING STAYS IN ORDER, UH, THAT THE SECRETARY FOR THE MEETING CAN MAKE SURE SHE KNOWS WHAT'S BEING VOTED ON.

WHAT'S BEING VOTED DOWN, WAS BEING VOTED POSITIVELY.

UH, IT'S JUST, UH, A WAY THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF AGREES TO MAKE, UH, TO GO, TO MAKE THINGS WORK BETTER.

UH, ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS IT'S NOT A SET OF LEGAL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE TO USE AS OUR WAY TO MAINTAIN ORDER.

UH, SO ON THE, ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, THAT MEANS THAT IF WE VIOLATE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WE DID.

UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST A WAY TO KEEP ORDER AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, THE CITY HAS ADOPTED ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AS OUR METHOD OF MAINTAINING ORDER IN MEETINGS BY ORDINANCE, OH, I'M SORRY.

THE COURT HAS SET OUR, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UH, I LEARNED THIS AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING THAT I WAS HERE.

WE ONLY HAD FOUR MEMBERS THAT WE, UH, IT'S FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MUST BE PRESENT FOR MEETING TO BE HELD.

UH, THERE WAS A GOOD REASON.

I MESSED THAT ONE UP AT THE TIME WE HAD TWO NAKED SEASONS.

SO I WENT ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT TOOK A MAJORITY OF THE ACTUAL CITY MEMBERS, BUT THAT WAS INDEED NOT THE WAY IT GOES.

AND IT'S GOTTA BE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SO IF WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MEMBERS AND WE HAVE FOUR VACANCIES, WE NEED ALL FIVE MEMBERS.

IF WE HAVE LESS THAN FIVE MEMBERS, WE CAN'T HAVE THE MEETING AND ANYTHING THAT'S DONE IN THOSE MEETINGS IS NOT GOING TO COUNT.

IT'S NOT SET BY ROBERT'S RULES.

THIS IS SET BY CITY ORDINANCE.

AND THIS QUESTION HAS COME UP BEFORE, UH, WHETHER, IF ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF STAYING SAFE, I THINK IF WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS HERE AND ONE ABSTAINS, DOES THAT TAKE US BLOOD AND QUORUM OR NO, IT DOESN'T IT'S MEMBERS PRESENT, NOT MEMBERS VOTING, UH, WOULD LEAVING THE ROOM EFFECTIVE WHORE.

UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF, NOBODY SHARED THEY'RE HERE AT THE MEETING, BUT THEY LEFT THE ROOM FOR WHATEVER REASON.

UH, IF THEY HAVE LEFT THE ROOM TO, UH, VISIT THE RESTROOM OR WHATEVER, I WOULD SUGGEST WE WAIT UNTIL THEY COME BACK BEFORE TAKING ANY VOTES.

UH, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, I GUESS IN, IN SOME SORT OF SITUATION, PROBABLY NOT THIS BOARD, THIS BOARD DOESN'T GET VERY CONFRONTATIONAL.

UH, I SUPPOSE SOMEBODY COULD TRY LEAVING THE ROOM TO PREVENT A VOTE ON A CONTROVERSIAL ITEM.

UM, BUT LET'S JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY STAYS IN THE ROOM.

OH, I'VE GOT ONE MORE EXTRA COMMENT ON THE CORN.

IF WE HAVE, IF THERE'S FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT, WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, WE GOT SIX TO NINE.

WELL, THAT'S HYPOTHETICAL.

WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS AT ONCE.

THERE'S ONE RECRUIT RECUSAL.

IT WAS THAT THERE'S ONE RECRUIT RECUSAL.

UH, RECUSAL IS SAME THING AS ABSTAINING.

THEY'RE JUST NOT VOTING ON THAT PARTICULAR PARTICIPATING IN THAT PARTICULAR DISCUSSION AND VOTE.

SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE PRESENT,

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THEY COUNT TOWARDS THE COURT.

UH, NOW THE MOST COMMON WAY TO BRING NEW BUSINESS TO THE, TO THE BOARD, UH, WOULD BE BY MOTION.

UH, THERE'S NO MAGIC WORDS, UH, THAT GO INTO, UH, BRINGING YOUR MOTION, UH, GENERALLY, UH, WHEN, WHEN REQUESTED OR WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, YOU CAN SAY, I MOVED THAT, OR, UH, I WANT, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT AS LONG AS WHATEVER WORDS YOU USE, MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE CHAIR IN THIS CASE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING A MOTION TO THE BOARD, THAT'S GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT AND THE CHAIR CAN SOLICIT A MOTION.

AND WE SEE THAT A LOT HERE.

UH, CAUSE WE DON'T, THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES WHERE YOU CAN CLOSE DISCUSSION AND HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE A DISCUSSION AND THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT THE CHAIR CAN SOLICIT EMOTION.

WHEN, WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, UH, THE CHAIR CAN ASK, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MOTION? UH, AND THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY IT KIND OF HAPPENS HERE BECAUSE OF OUR UNOFFICIAL POLICY, UH, THAT IF THAT THE MATTERS IN YOUR DISTRICT, UH, WE WILL DEFER TO THAT MEMBER AS FAR AS MAKING THE MOTION.

AND SO, UH, IT'S MORE OF A PRODDING TO NOW'S YOUR TIME TO SPEAK.

UH, AND ONE THING, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CONTROVERSIAL.

UH, THE CONCEPT I ALWAYS USED TO TURN THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR, BE IT MAN, OR WOMAN, UH, THERE'S NO REAL PROPER WAY TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR.

UH, IT HAS BECOME COMMON FOR A MALE CHAIR TO BE JOYOUS AS MR. CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRMAN AND A FEMALE TO BE ADDRESSED IS MADAM CHAIR OR CHAIR, WOMAN.

UH, BUT REALLY FROM STANDPOINT, MAN IS REFERRING TO MANKIND THERE.

AND SO THE MR OR THE MR. CHAIRMAN OR MR, OR MADAM CHAIRMAN WOULD INDICATE THAT THE SEX OF THE CHAIRMAN, BUT IT'S EASIER FOR ME, UH, TO NOT STEP ON ANY TOES.

I'M JUST USE THE TERM CHAIR WHEN I REFER TO AS THE CHAIRPERSON.

UH, AND IT'S JUST EASIER IN A WAY, BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT YOU MAY HAS TO DO AGAIN, AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET HIS ATTENTION, HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS MR. CHAIRMAN OR MR. CHAIR IS AS LONG AS YOU GET HIS ATTENTION, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING TO SAY MOSTLY BY PUNCHING THAT BUTTON AND ASKING HIM FOR REQUEST TO SPEAK.

UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THAT OUR COST, OUR CUSTOMERS IS NOT SET BY ROBERT'S RULES, BUT OUR CUSTOM HERE IS THAT, UH, THE MEMBER REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AS THE ONE THAT WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

ONCE IT'S MADE, UH, THE MOTION MUST BE SECONDED.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE NECESSARILY WITH THIS, UH, BOARD, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY THAT CONTROVERSIAL, UH, AMONG THE MEMBERS, BUT, UH, THERE ARE TIMES IN SOME MEETINGS WHERE EMOTION WILL BE MADE AND NOT SECONDED IT.

IF IT IS NOT SECONDED, THE BOARD CANNOT CONSIDER THE MOTION.

SO THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES IF, IF NOBODY'S QUICK ON THE DRAW OF THE SECOND EMOTION, YOU MIGHT GET A, THE CHAIR WILL REMIND YOU, DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE CAN'T PUT IT TO A VOTE IF SECONDED, THE MOTION IS IN PLACE BEFORE THE MEMBERS FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, AND THIS IS AGAIN WHERE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS WILL KICK IN, UH, TO CONTROL HOW THE DISCUSSION, UH, OCCURS.

UH, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCUSS, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IS THE IMPORTANT PART.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, UH, STAFF WILL BE, UH, VERY THOROUGH IN THEIR PRESENTATION AND IT MAY NOT BE ANYTHING THAT, UH, Y'ALL REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS.

UH, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY'S BRENDAN MOVED TO.

UH, UM, ONE THING IS ONCE A MOTION HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE CHAIR OR PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND BELONGS TO THE BOARD.

UH, SO IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, YOU CAN'T PULL IT BACK, UNLESS THERE IS A CONSENT OF THE REST OF THE BOARD AND PULL THE MOTION BACK.

SO YOU'VE KIND OF THROWN IT OUT THERE.

IT BELONGS TO THE BOARD, UH, AND MAYBE, UH, TOYED WITH THIS, THE BOARD PLEASES, UH, THIS WILL COME UP IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO AMEND MOST OF THE TIME IN MOST CONTEXTS, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS, SOMEBODY WHO WILL PUT A MOTION OUT, UH, AND THEN ANOTHER MEMBER MAN MAY WANT TO AMEND IT.

AND AT THAT POINT THEY ORIGINAL MEMBER MAY NO LONGER WANT THAT MOTION TO BE OUT AND TRY TO RE RETRIEVE IT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OUT THERE UNLESS EVERYBODY AGREES TO TAKE THE EMOTIONAL AT THE TABLE

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ARE OFF THE OUT OF CONSIDERATION CAN DO THAT.

UH, AND THAT'S PART OF THIS AS, YOU KNOW, NO, NO NEED TO ASPIRATION OF THE MAKER TO AMEND THE MOTION.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE, A LOT OF TIMES IT'LL COME UP WITHIN OUR CONTEXT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMES WHERE WE'LL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GIVE SOMEBODY 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS, UH, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HEAR DURING DISCUSSION SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAKES YOU THINK, WELL, THAT'S TOO MUCH OR NOT ENOUGH TIME.

UH, AND SO EVEN IF IT'S NOT YOUR MOTION, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I MOVED AWAY MEN TO 120 DAYS RATHER THAN NINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WE'LL PROBABLY SEE EMOTIONAL MEN SHOW UP, UH, BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE, MOST OF THE AMENDMENTS, WE MAY TEND TO BE TO HOW LONG WE GET IN SOMEBODY TO, UH, TO FIX UP THE PROPERTY, UH, THE DEBATE ON THE MOTION, AGAIN, NOT SET BY ROLE, UH, BUT BY CUSTOM, THE ONE WHO MAKES THE MOTION IS USUALLY GIVEN THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT PLAYS PRETTY WELL INTO OUR CONCEPT OF, UH, OF USING THE MEMBER FROM THAT DISTRICT.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN, UH, WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.

YOU MAY WANT TO DRIVE THE DISCUSSION IN A CERTAIN WAY.

UH, AND SO YOU WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS, UH, THE DISCUSSION LILLY PROCEED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.

THE WAY WE HANDLED THAT IS THE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

I BELIEVE I'VE NEVER SAT IN THAT CHAIR, BUT I BELIEVE YOU GET THEM IN ORDER THAT THEY MAKE THE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

AND HE CAN GO THROUGH THAT IN ORDER RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE WHO REQUEST TO SPEAK, UH, THE ELECTRONIC METHOD IS, IS MUCH EASIER THAN THE RACE TO RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN SOMEBODY STOPS.

CAUSE OFTEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY IS ACTUALLY STOPPING DOING ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

SO IT WORKS PRETTY WELL WHEN THE ELECTRONICS WORK AND IF THEY DON'T, WE'LL REVERT TO RAISING HANDS, UM, YOU'RE NOT LIMITED.

UH, YOU CAN'T SPEAK MORE THAN ONCE, UH, BUT UH, ONLY AFTER OTHERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO IF YOU SAY SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY ELSE'S, AND THERE'S THREE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE, UH, YOU MAY WANT TO RESPOND TO THE PERSON WHO SPEAKS DIRECTLY AFTER YOU, UH, THE ORDER THAT THEY WILL GO IN AND WE'LL BE YOU'LL.

IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK, YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE THE BACK OF THE LINE, EVERYBODY WHO ONCE EVERYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, YOU WILL THEN BE ABLE TO SAY YOUR PIECE AGAIN.

WE GENERALLY, UH, TRY TO ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR.

UH, WE MAY HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, QUESTIONS OF STAFF, BUT OUR, IN OUR, THE WAY WE OPERATE, UH, WE GENERALLY, YOU CAN REQUEST AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A QUESTION.

AND GENERALLY THE CHAIR WILL GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO ASK YOUR QUESTION AND YOU'RE GOING TO THEN ASK DIRECTLY TO THE STAFF, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, RIGHT, EVERYTHING RUNS THROUGH THE CHAIR, BUT THEN THE CHAIR CAN DELEGATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK DIRECTLY TO A STAFF OR TO, UH, ANY OF THE WITNESSES DREW PRESENTED HERE.

IT'S KINDA LIKE IN COURT, UH, ALWAYS HAVE TO TALK TO THE JUDGE, EVEN THOUGH I'M SAYING THINGS TO THE OTHER SIDE, UH, DEBATE THE MOTION.

UH, AND AGAIN, GENERALLY NOT A PROBLEM WITH IT.

WE GENERALLY GET ALONG PRETTY WELL, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL AMONG THE MEMBERS, BUT, UH, WHEN DEBATING THE MOTION, YOU SHOULD AVOID INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE.

UH, AND IN THE DEBATE, ONE THING IS IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, YOU CAN THEN REQUEST OR MAKE, UH, OR SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION.

YOU CAN'T THROW A MOTION OUT THERE JUST SO YOU CAN KILL IT.

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT YOU, IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, UH, YOU CAN SPEAK AGAINST IT.

UH, SECONDING THE MOTION.

DOESN'T RESTRICT YOUR ABILITY TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION.

SO IF YOU JUST WANT A SECOND, UH, JUST TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, THAT'S NOT GOING TO RESTRICT YOUR ABILITY, AMENDING EMOTION THAT I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE, UH, MAYBE MADE IT MUST BE DECIDED ON BEFORE VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IN OUR EXAMPLES, WE'VE GIVEN SOMEBODY 30 TO OUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDED 30 DAYS, AND THE MOTION IS MADE FOR 30 DAYS.

SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, I HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S REALLY GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE 60 DAYS.

THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHETHER THE AMENDMENT IS GOING TO BE MADE.

SO SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION TO AMEND TO 60 DAYS.

IT'S SECONDED.

IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON BEFORE WE CAN THEN GO BACK AND VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

WE CAN JUST BAIL OUT ON THE AMENDMENT.

WE HAVE TO DECIDE THE AMENDMENT, THEN GO BACK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION.

IF YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S A MINUTE, IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT SOMETIMES

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IT DOES NOT MODIFY THE MAIN MOTION.

IS IT FAILS? THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE BOAT DONE.

STILL GOT FIVE RIGHT AFTER I MENTIONED THAT IN THE ROOM.

UH, WE CAN STILL TALK.

WE HAVEN'T DROPPED.

UM, IF IT, IF IT FAILS OR SOMEBODY SAYS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT TO 60 EVERYBODY VOTES, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AT 30.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESTATE THE MOTION.

UH, WE'LL JUST GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

UH, ONE THING THAT, UH, WELL, THIS GOES TO THE CLASS THAT TAKES PRECEDENT OVER THE MAIN MODE.

UH, ONE THING THAT, UH, THAT WE USED TO DO THAT CHANGED HOW WE DO IT.

SPEAKING EMOTIONS.

A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL, UH, OR WE USED TO READ THE RECOMMENDATION AS WRITTEN OR AS WE WANTED TO ADOPT IT FROM STAFF.

UH, WE DETERMINED THAT WE ARE ALLOWED SINCE THE STAFF, UH, BRIEFING IS WRITTEN.

UH, WE ARE ALLOWED TO ACCEPT THE MOTION CAN BE MOVED.

WE ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS WRITTEN, UH, THAT WAY WE DON'T CAUSE IT WOULD GET CONFUSING AT TIMES WE'D HAVE TO READ ENTIRE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

IF CHANGES ARE MADE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY READ IT, INSERT THE RIGHT WORDS.

YOU CAN JUST SAY, AS LONG AS IT'S CLEAR WHAT THE MOTION IS, WE'RE GOOD.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE MOTION WAS, WHAT THE VOTE WAS SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IN THE OFFICIAL CITY RECORDS, WHAT HAPPENED.

SO, UH, MOST OF THE TIME HERE, IT'S GOING TO BE ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN BACK BY STAFF.

SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT SAY WITH IT, WITH AN EXTENSION OF RATHER THAN MARCH 3RD, SEPTEMBER 3RD, OR WHATEVER, THAT CAN BE.

UH, A LOT OF TIMES THIS WON'T COME UP, COME UP A LOT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN ANYTHING BESIDES A MAIN MOTION AND AN AMENDED MOTION, A MOTION TO AMEND COME UP IN OUR CONTEXT.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME MOTIONS ARE DEBATABLE, MAY MOTION, A MOTION TO POSTPONE A MOTION, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO RESEND, UH, OUR EMOTION, RECONSIDER EMOTION.

THESE ARE ALL DEBATABLE.

THAT MEANS ONCE IT'S THROWN OUT THERE AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT, UH, THERE CAN BE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE CAN CALL THE VOTE.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NON DEBATABLE, UH, SUCH AS A MOTION TO LAY ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A MOTION TO SET THIS MOTION ASIDE UNTIL A LATER MEETING, UH, OR TO TAKE IT BACK OFF THE TABLE, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT MEETING TO COME OFF THE TABLE, ADJOURN.

THESE THINGS ARE NOT DEBATABLE.

WE CAN'T ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN, WHICH KIND OF SURPRISED ME THAT WAS NOT DEBATABLE, BUT IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT THE END, WE DON'T GET TO TALK ABOUT IT TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GET TO VOTE ON IT.

IF WE VOTE TO ADJOURN, THEN IT'S MEETINGS OVER.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST ROBERT'S RULES.

THESE ARE LAWS.

SO IF SOMEBODY MANAGES TO TALK ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

UH, AFTER THE MOTION IS MADE, AFTER EFFORT'S BEEN SECONDED, AFTER ANY DISCUSSION HAS BEEN CONCLUDED, THE CHAIR WILL LIVE CALL TO CALL FOR THE VOTE.

AND YOU WILL HAVE ESSENTIALLY, I THINK, AS RESTRICTED BY YOUR KEYPAD, THERE, YOU CAN VOTE.

YES, YOU CAN VOTE.

NO.

ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE WITH STATE? I THINK THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS.

ARE THEY PHRASED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY? THEY'RE NOT THERE FOR YES, NO.

AND I'M STAYING RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M HAVING IN SOME CONTEXTS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE SUPPORT, NOT SUPPORT.

YES, NO ABSTAIN.

THOSE ARE YOUR OPTIONS.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER OPTION AGAIN, UH, WITHIN, SO ELECTRONIC VOTING, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU DON'T REALLY GET ANOTHER OPTION.

SO NOAH, NO DISCUSSION REMAINS, UH, WHICH NORMALLY HERE IT WOULD BE AFTER ALL THE WITNESSES SPOKEN, SPOKEN.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, CHAIRMAN PEREZ, UH, CUSTOM IS TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.

AND WHEN THE HEARING NONE, HE WILL SAY, THAT'S USUALLY WHEN YOU WILL ASK FOR A VOTE OR ASK FOR A MOTION AND THEN YOU WILL CALL FOR A VOTE.

SO A MORE, A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST, UH, CARRY, UH, IF SOMEBODY ABSTAINS, THERE HAS TO BE A MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT ACTUALLY VOTE.

SO EXTINCTION WILL AFFECT WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN, BUT IT WON'T AFFECT WHETHER THERE'S AN AND YOU'LL VOTE BY TECHNOLOGY.

TAKE ALL THESE WONDERFUL UNTIL IT DOESN'T WORK.

UH, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT WORK, UH, WE WILL VOTE BY

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PROBABLY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPONENTS, RAISE YOUR HAND.

IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T RAISE THEIR HAND AND I'LL ASK, UH, IF HE MAY HAVE STAYED AND THEN THE ACTION WILL BE COMPLETED, UH, WHEN THE VOTE IS REVEALED ON THIS, WHETHER THE MOTION IS CARRIED OR THE EMOTION IS NOT SUCCESS, I THERE'S A TIDE OF THOSE LOST, UH, TODD DOES NOT GO TO THE RUNNER.

IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE TO WIN.

THE MOTION HAS TO WIN IN ORDER TO BE CARRIED.

UH, THEN THERE'S SOME WHAT THEY SECONDARY EMOTIONS.

UH, AND THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES OF SECONDARY EMOTIONS.

THERE'S PRIVILEGED SUBSIDIARY AND INCIDENTAL.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANDER INTO THESE VERY OFTEN.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS, AND I'M NOT SEEING ANY OF THESE SHOW UP.

UH, THESE ARE GENERALLY THINGS THAT COME UP IN, UH, VERY RARELY, EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, WHICH GO MUCH FURTHER INTO THE WEEDS THAN WE NORMALLY DO.

UH, PRIVILEGED MOTIONS, UH, ARE EMOTIONS THAT DON'T RELATE TO THE MAIN MOTION TO RELATE TO MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION, UH, A SECONDARY MOTION MIGHT BE OF, YOU KNOW, IF DISCUSSION IS GOING ON, SOMEBODY MAY NOT MAKE A MOTION TO SET A TIME TO ADJOURN TO KIND OF GIVE HER READY THE HEADS UP.

HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT GUYS.

UH, BUT THESE DON'T DIRECTLY RELATE TO THE MOTION THAT THEY WILL AFFECT THE MOTION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED PRIVILEGED EMOTIONS AND SECONDARY, UH, SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT RELATE TO DIRECTLY TO THE MOTION THAT HAND MOTION TO LAY ON THE TABLE.

A PREVIOUS QUESTION LIMIT THE TIME OR STINT TO DEBATE, UH, TO POSTPONE FOR A CERTAIN TIME REVERTED COMMUNITY OF MEN AND POSTPONED IN DEPTH.

THESE ARE THE TYPES OF SECONDARY EMOTIONS THAT ARE CONSIDERED SUBSIDIARY EMOTIONS BECAUSE THEY DO DIRECTLY AFFECT, UH, THE, THE MOTION ITSELF.

NOW I WILL GET OFF INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE WITH THESE.

THEY MAY COME UP FROM TIME TO TIME, AND THEN YOU HAVE INCIDENTAL LOTIONS, UH, ARISING FROM THE PENDING BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD BE THE MOTION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY AFFECT THE MOTION.

UH, AND AGAIN, THERE'S YOUR LIST.

UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER ANY OF THOSE EVER COMING UP.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S THINGS THAT, UH, THAT MIGHT BRING IT ON A MOTION OR QUESTION BACK AGAIN BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY.

UH, THESE ARE, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, UH, THINGS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BRING SOMETHING UP THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCOVERED I PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND VOTED, VOTED ON.

MAYBE WE, UH, VOTED TO TABLE THE MOTION.

UH, THAT GENERALLY MEANS JUST TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR TELL A FUTURE MEETING, NOT TO SHOW THE NEXT MEETING AGAIN, DOESN'T COME UP A LOT HERE.

I SUPPOSE IT COULD.

IF SOMEBODY HAD A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES GOING ON WITH THEIR HOUSE WITHOUT SAYING, HEY, WE'LL TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER.

UH, I THINK IT MIGHT COME UP FROM TIME TO TIME.

IF WE HAD LIKE A NEW OWNER COMES IN AND SAYS, LOOK, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'D LIKE TO GET THE CHANCE WE CAN TABLE THE MOTION.

AND THEN JUST SAY, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN.

UH, ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE TO A MOTION RECONSIDER MOTION RESEND.

UH, THESE COULD COME UP IF, IF SOME NEW INFORMATION COMES UP AND I CAN SEE IT COMING UP THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER SAY WE HAD A NEW OWNER WHO SWEPT IN AFTER OUR HEARING AND SAID, LOOK, I'M, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SAID, Y'ALL WERE GONNA TEAR THIS DOWN.

I CAN GET IT FIXED.

WE MIGHT PUT IT BACK ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL ASK IF THE BOARD WANTS TO RECONSIDER WHICH POINT THE BOARD COULD VOTE TO NOT RECONSIDER IT.

ARE THEY GOING TO RECONSIDER? RESEND WOULD BE AGAIN, IF SOMETHING CHANGED AND THEY CAME TO THE CAME BACK, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO RESCIND IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTED TO, TO GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, I GUESS, UH, THERE'S OTHER MOTIONS AND QUESTIONS, BUT GENERALLY, AND, AND JUST LIKE IN BRINGING A MOTION THERE'S I MOVED THAT.

I MOVED THAT WE DO THIS, I MOVED TO THE BOARD.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WHATEVER, UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT KIND OF LANGUAGES THAT YOU CAN USE.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO MAGIC WORDS.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST WANT A MOTION TO GO AWAY, YOU DON'T SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT THIS MOTION TO GO AWAY.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY A MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY CHANGES, MOTION TO AMEND, UH, TO ASSIGN A COMMITTEE, TO INVESTIGATE THE VIEW, TO REFER TO A COMMITTEE.

UH, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU,

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I MEAN, ALTHOUGH THE OFFICIAL MOTION IS SAY A MOTION TO LIMIT DEBATE.

IF SOMEBODY JUST SAID, HEY, I GOT A MOTION THAT WE QUIT TALKING ABOUT THIS, OR I GOT A MOTION.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT THREE MORE SPEAKERS AFTER THAT.

WE VOTE, UH, AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THE MOTION, IT'S GOING TO GET IT DONE.

UH, WE DON'T NEED MAGIC WORKS.

UH, THOSE JUST AREN'T REQUIRED.

UH, AND AGAIN, HERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS.

IF WE WANDER OFF THE AGENDA, UH, THE MOTION IS FORMERLY CALLED, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CALL FOR ORDERS OF THE DAY, BUT YOU COULD JUST SAY, HEY, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE STICK TO THE AGENDA AGAIN.

AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, UH, WE CAN GET IT DONE BECAUSE THIS, THESE ROBERT'S RULES ARE HERE, UH, FOR Y'ALL'S USE TO MAINTAIN ORDER IN Y'ALL'S.

HERE ARE Y'ALL'S HEARINGS, UH, SO THAT THE STAFF CAN KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT Y'ALL WANT US TO DO, UH, TO PUT DOWN IN TO THE RECORD, UH, AND TO KEEP IT, KEEP EVERYBODY IN ORDER.

WE JUST LIKE STAFF.

THEY SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE.

YOU USE THE RULES AS YOU WANT TO USE THE RULES.

IF YOU WANT TO USE SOME DIFFERENT RULES, YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE YOUR OWN UP, BUT IT JUST WOULD SEEM KIND OF SILLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD COMPREHENSIVE SET OF RULES THAT THE ROBERTS FOLKS NOW MAINTAIN AND KEEPS ORDER PRETTY WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? ONE THING I DID WANT TO SAY, UM, AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE, PROBABLY UNDERSTAND FROM TIME TO TIME, A QUESTION MAY COME UP, UH, AND THE PERSON WHO IS FORMERLY CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, UH, IS REFERRED TO AS THE PARLIAMENTARIAN.

WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL PARLIAMENTARIAN, BUT ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS NOT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN OF MEETINGS.

UH, GENERALLY THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A PARLIAMENTARIAN, UH, IT WILL, UH, FALL TO THE CHAIR TO MAINTAIN THE ORDER AS HE SEES FIT.

UH, SO THERE'S DISAGREEMENT ON HOW THINGS ARE RUN WITHOUT AN ASSIGNED PARLIAMENTARIAN.

UH, UH, TIE GOES TO MR. PERRY, IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT AND MR. PERRY IS ON ONE SIDE, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO GO BECAUSE OF DEFAULTS, AS FAR AS THE PARLIAMENTARIAN DUTIES TO THE CHAIR, UNLESS HE SIGNS IT ELSEWHERE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE WERE AT, I WAS AT A CONFERENCE LAST YEAR AND IT WAS ABOUT ROBERT JEWELS AND THE FIRST SLIDE CAME UP THERE AND HE SAID, YOU ARE NOT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN FOR COUNCIL.

AND I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.

I WAS LIKE, OKAY, GOOD.

BECAUSE I DON'T, I MEAN, WE USED TO HAVE FORMER DISTRICT FOUR MEMBER SAY HE KNEW THOSE THINGS BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP UP AND JUST KNOW THEM ALL MR. JEFF, HE KNEW IT BACKWARDS.

AND SO I WOULD DEFER TO HIM EVERY TIME A QUESTION CAME UP BECAUSE HE AND WE, AND WE GOT TESTED ON IT PRETTY, PRETTY FREQUENTLY.

OKAY.

PRETTY QUICK.

I WAS LIKE, OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT FIGHTING THEN.

UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT WE CAN CONSIDER OURSELVES REFRESHED ON ROBERTSVILLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KURT.

UH, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS PRESENTATION THAT'S PRESENTED THIS EVENING? CAN WE AS A BOARD MEMBER, CAN WE RECEIVE THIS ELECTRONICALLY? YES, I WILL SEND IT TO BILLY AND SHE CAN GET IT OUT.

OKAY.

THANKS AGAIN.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBER SIX, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, IS EVERYONE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE RELATIVELY NEW.

WE'RE ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE GETTING A SIMULATED.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REQUIRES FUTURE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR TO GET, UH, FOR YOU TO GET ACCLIMATED FOR FUTURE BOARD MEETINGS? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO HAVE SOME TRAINING SESSIONS OVER OR TO BE DISCUSSED IN OUR NEXT, NEXT MEETING, UPCOMING MEETING? IS THERE ANY REQUESTS FOR FUTURE FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEMS? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, A GREAT JOB RIGHT THERE FOR US PUTTING THESE TRAINING MATERIALS TOGETHER, THEN YOUR STAFF.

WE HAVE ABOUT 19 MINUTES BEFORE OUR PUBLIC REGULAR PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, IT'S ABOUT 6 41.

A PRE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

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OKAY.

LIKE THE WELCOME EVERYONE.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY 7:00 PM, JANUARY THE 13TH, 2022, LIKE TO SAY, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE.

THIS WILL, WE WERE CONDUCTING OUR VERY FIRST MEETING OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

LET ME BEGIN BY MAKING A STATEMENT.

IT IS A CUSTOM AND TRADITION OF THIS BOARD FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD TO HAVE AN INVOCATION, EVERY SILO OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF OUR PUBLIC MEETING, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE.

HOWEVER, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE.

THE DECISION TO PARTICIPATE IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF PERSONAL CHOICE AND HAS NO BEARING ON THE MATTERS TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD AND WILL NOT AFFECT THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE DURING THIS MEETING.

SO AT THIS TIME, AS WE COMMENCE OUR PUBLIC HEARING THIS, THIS, THIS EVENING, I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO STAND AND OUR APPLICATION, WHICH WILL BE LED BY OUR BOARD MEMBER.

ERIC SHOW FOLLOWED BY THE PLATES, THE TEXAS PLEDGE, WHICH WOULD BE LED BY, BY CALEB EARNEST.

MR. SHOW, UH, I WAS CHAIRMAN PEREZ SAID, UM, WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY.

UM, WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR.

I'M GLAD I, IT HOPEFULLY, UH, OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT PRESENT TONIGHT ARE IN GOOD HEALTH AND NOT HERE BECAUSE OF SICKNESS.

UM, AND IF WE CAN TAKE A MOMENT, UH, OUR HEADS AND SATISFIED WITH HER, IF YOU WILL, BUT FOR ALL THOSE, UH, THAT HAVE FALLEN ILL OR THAT WE HAVE LOST TO, UH, THE COVID VIRUS, OKAY.

LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLEDGE, PLEASE TURN IT AND FACE THE TEXAS FLAG HONOR.

THE TEXAS FLAG I PLEDGE IN ONE AND INDIVIDUALIZE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. SHOW.

AND THANK YOU, UH, MR. EARNEST AND W YOU MAY BE SEATED AT THIS TIME.

IN OUR PACKET THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 2ND, 2021 MEETING.

AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HAVE A REVIEW REVIEWING OF THE MINUTES AND WE'LL HAVE A MOTION AFTER READING OF THE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE READ, READ THE MINUTES FOR APPROVAL.

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WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FROM DECEMBER THE SECOND, 2021 BOARD MEETINGS.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY .

THANK YOU.

ONE LENDER.

SECOND BY MR. MR. EARNEST, ALL IN FAVOR OF SETTING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED WITH BOTH AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER.

THE SECOND BOARD MEETING THAT UNANIMOUS DECISION MINUTES ARE ACCEPTED AS APPROVED, APPROVED AS PRESENTED OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

AND OUR REGULAR MEETING WOULD BE THE SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES.

IS THERE ALL WITNESSES THAT HAVE SIGNED A WITNESS CARD? WILL YOU PLEASE STAND SO THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL SWEAR EVERYONE WHO'S COMING BEFORE US THIS EVENING, YOU HEAR ABOUT SWEARING, THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL ARRIVE IN THE SPORT AND BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DID.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KURT.

YOU WOULD CONTINUE ON OUR CASES, OUR DOCKETS THAT'S PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING.

UM, I MUST BRING TO THE ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO THE BOARD THAT, ALTHOUGH IN OUR PACKET THIS EVENING, WE HAVE FIVE CASES ON THE DOCKET.

ONE OF THE CASES BASICALLY IS A DUPLEX.

ONE OF THEM WILL BE REMOVED OR HAS BEEN REMOVED DUE TO THE DEMOLITION OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

THAT IS THE, UH, PROPERTY B UH, DOCKET NUMBER OF 2021 DASH 11.

DECK.

THAT PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE DOCKET WILL BE REMOVED, WILL NOT BE PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

THAT'S A DUPLEX PROPERTY BECAUSE DUE TO DEMOLITION, SO WE WERE PROCEED WOULD THAT WOULD NOT BE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

IT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

SO WE WERE PROCEED WITH OUR FIRST CASE THIS EVENING, UH, THE CASE DOCKET NUMBER 2021 DASH 10.

MR WEINSTEIN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO THIS IS THE OTHER HALF OF THAT DUPLEX.

THIS IS DOCKET AT 2021 DASH 10 FOR THE JANUARY 13TH, 2022.

HEARING THE ADDRESS IS 48 33 SPINDRIFT PASSAGE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

NUMBER FOUR, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS BLOCKED TO LOT 13 OF THE MEADOW CREEK VILLAGE EDITION.

IT IS DESCRIBED AS A SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE AND A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A PROPERTY VALUE OR AN IMPROVEMENT VALUE OF $116,320.

THE OWNER IS JANET MARIE REARDON OF 1425 DOUGLAS DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS 75 0 4 1 4 9 0.

TO NOTICE THAT THE PROCEEDINGS IN THIS MATTER HAS BEEN GIVEN, MAILED, PUBLISHED, AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021 CITY OF GARLAND NOTICE A PROCEEDING WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

DECEMBER 17TH, 2021 CITY OF GARLAND NOTICE OF PROCEEDING WAS PUBLISHED IN A LOCAL NEWSPAPER ON DECEMBER 20TH, 2021 CITY OF GARLAND ADMINISTRATIVE SUMMONS ARE SENT BY US POSTAL SERVICE CERTIFIED DELIVERY TO PERSON VESTED OWNER OF RECORD IDENTIFIED BY DALLAS COUNTY RECORDS.

THERE EXISTS ON THE PREMISES LOCATED AT 48 33 SPENDER PASSAGE, GARLAND, TEXAS, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

WE'LL CALL IT THE PROPERTY, THE SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS DUE TO STRUCTURAL HAZARDS, AND THAT ARE ON THE HOUSING STANDARDS VIOLATIONS.

THE CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WHEREAS THE BUILDING LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY OF GARLAND CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE BUILDING BE REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION AND A FINAL INSPECTION BE CONDUCTED BY AUGUST 19TH, 2022.

IF THE BUILDING IS NOT REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION, AND IF FINAL INSPECTION IS NOT CONDUCTED BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, BY AUGUST 19TH, 2020 TO CIVIL PENALTIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $100 PER DAY, BE ASSESSED AGAINST THE PROPERTY BEGINNING AUGUST 20TH, 2022, AND CONTINUE UNTIL THE BUILDING IS REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION AND THEY FINAL INSPECTION IS CONDUCTED BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.

IF THE BUILDING IS NOT REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION AND PENALTIES HAVE CONTINUED TO ACCRUE BY SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022,

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THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING IN SPINDRIFT PADS THAT IT'S AT THE CORNER OF SPINDRIFT PASSAGE AND ARROWHEAD CIRCLE, AND IT BACKS UP TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR WAS PROPERTY PROPER NOTICE PROVIDED FOR THIS HEARING AND THE INTERESTED PARTIES WERE IDENTIFIED VIA TITLE SEARCH COUNTY, PROPERTY RECORDS, CAD PROPERTY RECORDS RECORDS OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE WHERE APPLICABLE TAX AND UTILITY RECORDS AND ASSUMED NAME RECORDS ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021.

STAFF NOTICE POSTED THE NOTICE OF PROCEEDINGS FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING OF THE PROPERTY DECEMBER 22ND, 2021 CERTIFIED ADMINISTRATIVE SUMMONS MARKED AS DELIVERED BY USP AS TRACKING SERVICE FOR JANET MURRAY REARDON 1425 DOUGLAS IN GARLAND, TEXAS 7 5 0 4 1 4 9 0 2.

ALSO ON DECEMBER 22ND, 2021 CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF SPOKE TO JANET BY PHONE.

AFTER SHE HAD RECEIVED A NOTICE OF PROCEEDINGS ON DECEMBER 25TH, 2021 CERTIFIED IN MINNESOTA ADMINISTRATIVE SUMMONS MARKED IS IN TRANSIT ARRIVING LATE BY USP TRACKING SERVICE FOR JANET MURRAY REARDON AT 48 33 SPENDER AND PASSAGE IN GARLAND, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 3 4 9 1 9.

THIS PICTURE SHOWS THE POSTING OF THAT NOTICE OF PROCEEDING ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AT 48 33 SPENDERS PASSAGE.

THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021.

WHEN THE NOTICE WAS POSTED 48 33 SPENDER PASSAGE INSPECTION RESULTS SHOWED A STRUCTURE THAT WAS SEVERELY DAMAGED BY A FIRE AND A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE.

48 33 SPENDER PASSAGE REQUIREMENTS TO COMPLY, OR THAT ALL THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY FIRE SMOKE AND WATER MUST BE REMEDIED REMEDIATED, AND THAT THE STRUCTURE MUST BE REPAIRED SO THAT THE WELL DWELLING IS IN A HABITABLE CONDITION.

THIS IS THE TIMELINE OF ACTIONS FOR 48 33 SPENDER PASSAGE STARTED IN AUGUST OF 2021.

WHEN THERE WAS THE PROPERTY FIRE IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, THERE WAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT OBTAINED FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2021 CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF CONDEMN THE PROPERTY DECEMBER 22ND, 2021.

THE OWNER JANET RIORDAN REACHED OUT TO COBRA APPLIED STAFF.

AFTER SHE HAD RECEIVED THE NOTICE OF PROCEEDINGS FOR THIS HEARING BY DECEMBER 30TH, 2021, THE CHAIN-LINK SECURITY FENCE WAS INSTALLED AROUND THE PROPERTY ON JANUARY 3RD, 2022 CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF CONFIRMED THE DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY WAS WELL UNDERWAY.

JANUARY 4TH, 2022 CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF SPOKE TO JANET RIORDAN ABOUT HER PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AND ABOUT THIS HEARING ON JANUARY 7TH, 2022 CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF SPOKE TO MS. RIORDAN AND HER CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, JEFF MORELAND, AND MR. MORELAND SHARED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND HAD A CONCISE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND PLAN THAT HE SHARED WITH STAFF.

THIS PICTURE SHOWS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AT 48 33 SPENDERS PASSAGE.

YOU NOTICE THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF WORK DONE SINCE THE INITIAL POSTING.

THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW THAT WE TOOK THIS MORNING, JANUARY 13TH, 2022.

THERE'S A CURRENT CONDITION.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE FROM THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TAKEN THIS MORNING, JANUARY 13TH, 2022.

UH, THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT WE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED.

IT WAS, IT WAS SITTING APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE DUMPSTER IS THE OWNER'S PLAN IS EXPRESSED TO STAFF BY HER CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, IS THAT THE OWNER, JANET RICHARDSON HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF SINCE RECEIVING THE NOTICE OF PROCEEDINGS FOR THIS HEARING, SHE HASN'T BEEN WORKING WITH HER INSURANCE COMPANY AND HAS HIRED A CONTRACTOR WHO HAS BEGUN A PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF THIS PROPERTY.

HER PLAN IS TO RETAIN AS MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AS POSSIBLE TO SAFELY USE AND THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN DIFFICULTIES.

SHE INITIALLY BELIEVED THE PROCESS COULD TAKE UP TO A YEAR TO COMPLETE RECENTLY, A PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO BY HER CONTRACTOR.

THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF BY MR. JEFF MORELAND, WHO IS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DATES ON HERE.

START DATES AND FINISH DATES.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT IS ON THE SECOND PAGE HERE, AUGUST 19TH IS THE FINISHED DATE FOR THE FINAL CLEAN.

AND SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE SCHEDULE WILL BE ACCURATE AND THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SCHEDULE.

SO IN SUMMARY, THIS, THIS PROPERTY WASN'T DUPLEX, MS. JANET RIORDAN OWNS BOTH HALVES OF THE DUPLEX.

BOTH PROPERTIES WERE HEAVILY DAMAGED BY A FIRE IN AUGUST OF 2021.

FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, THERE WAS NO APPARENT

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PROGRESS MADE TOWARD REPAIRS OR SECURING THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, AFTER SPEAKING WITH STAFF, MR. RIORDAN IMMEDIATELY HAD HER CONTRACTOR BEGINNING, PARTIAL DEMOLITION, AND THE CHAIN LINK SECURITY FENCE WAS INSTALLED AROUND BOTH PROPERTIES.

MR. VERDIN DOES HAVE A PLAN AND IS MOVING FORWARD WITH RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTIES.

IN FACT, THE OTHER HALF OF THE DUPLEX HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED TO THE FOUNDATION AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPERTY MIRRORS, THE PLAN PRESENTED BY THE OWNER'S CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.

SO THEREFORE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR 48, 33 SPENDER OF PASSAGE IS THAT THE BUILDING BE REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION.

AND THE FINAL INSPECTION BE CONDUCTED BY AUGUST 19TH, 2022.

IF THE BUILDING IS NOT REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION, AND THE FINAL INSPECTION IS NOT CONDUCTED BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT BY AUGUST 19TH, 2020 TO CIVIL PENALTIES IN THE AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY, BE ASSESSED AGAINST THE PROPERTY BEGINNING AUGUST 20TH, 2022.

AND CONTINUE UNTIL THE BUILDING IS REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION.

AND A FINAL INSPECTION IS CONDUCTED BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.

IF THE BUILDING'S NOT REPAIRED TO A HABITABLE CONDITION AND PENALTIES HAVE CONTINUED TO ACCRUE BY SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022, THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, MR. CHAIRMAN THAT'S.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. WEINSTEIN, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT IN REGARDS TO OUR QUESTION, THIS, THE QUESTIONING THIS EVENING, WE'RE RESTRICTED WITH CERTAIN AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS.

AND I ALWAYS PREFER TO THE ACRONYM IN RV AND RV QUESTIONS.

THE END REPRESENTS, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO PROPER NOTICE.

THE R REPRESENTS REMEDY.

WE CAN, WE CAN REFER A QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO REMEDY OF THE PROPERTY AND VI VIOLATION REPRESENT VIOLATION.

I, OUR QUESTIONS CAN ONLY BE LIMITED TO VIOLATIONS.

SO ON THAT NOTE WITH RESTRICTIONS IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS OF QUESTIONING, WE WOULD PROCEED TO ASHLYN ASKING QUESTIONS OF MR. WEINSTEIN FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND, AL I'LL START OFF SAYING THIS.

YOU INDICATED SEAN, THAT YOU MET WITH THE OWNER, CORRECT? YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO THE OWNER.

I HAD SPOKEN TO THE OWNER AND JUST BETTER THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

IN REGARDS TO THE SCHEDULE, WE KNOW WE WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS PANDEMIC AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE WITH THE PANDEMIC AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE.

AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET THIS PROPERTY REHAB, DO THEY, IS THERE A PRACTICALITY OR REASONABILITY IN REGARDS TO THE DATE DATES THAT THE CITY IS SETTING FOR US, FOR US TO VOTE ON TONIGHT? YES.

I BELIEVE I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH MR. JEFF MORELAND SEVERAL TIMES.

HE'S THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT I DID, UH, PRESENT MS. RIORDAN'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND GETTING SUPPLIES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND HE DID NOT SEE IT AS A, AS A PROBLEM.

HE, HE FELT HE HAD ENOUGH WIGGLE ROOM IN HIS PLAN THAT HE'D BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE SCHEDULE.

THANK YOU, SEAN.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTION AT THIS TIME.

I WOULD POSE THE BOARD TECH TECH QUESTION ABOVE BOARD.

IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEAN AT THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEAN? ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHANNON SEEING NUDGE SEAN AT THIS TIME YOU MADE THE NEGATIVE.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE SOME WITNESS CARDS IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BEFORE US THIS EVENING, WE HAVE THE NAME OF, UM, JANET, JANET RIORDAN.

WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? MS. RIORDAN AS YOU APPROACHED MS. RIORDAN, UH, FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE MIC BECAUSE THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED FOR THE RECORD.

MS. RAVEN, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? HEY, MY NAME IS JANET RIORDAN CURRENTLY RESIDING AT 1425 DOUGLAS DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS 75,004 ONE.

THANK YOU, MS. RIORDAN, PLEASE PROCEED IN YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING.

WHAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO HEAR? OKAY.

UM, THE FIRE OCCURRED, UM, AUGUST 22ND AND IT DIDN'T START IN MY BUILDING AT ALL.

IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS BUILDING KIND OF ON THE HOME NEXT TO 48, 35 AND HER GRANDCHILDREN STARTED IT SOMEHOW ON THE PATIO AND IT WAS THE WIND WAS BLOWING AND IT WAS A VERY HOT FIRE.

AND MY DOG ALERTED ME.

I, THERE WAS

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SOME SMOKE, WENT BY THE WINDOW UP FRONT.

I GOT UP AND I THOUGHT SOMEBODY'S BARBECUE'S OUT OF CONTROL AND WENT OUTSIDE AND I COULD TELL MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE WAS ON FIRE.

MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT WAS LOSING MY CAR CAUSE I HAD A BRAND NEW CAR WITH 1800 MILES ON IT PARKED AND WENT BACK AND GOT THE BALL WENT OUT IN THAT TIME.

IT HAD SPREAD TO THE FENCE AND IT WAS JUST TOO HOT.

SO I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

AND, UM, WENT BACK IN AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THE DOG ON A LEASH.

AND MY NEIGHBOR FROM DOWN THE STREET CAME DOWN AND SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO GET OUT.

SO I GOT OUT THE CLOTHES ON MY BAG AND MY PURSE AND A WALKER.

AND FOR TWO HOURS, I SAT THERE AND WATCHED MY HOUSE BERG.

I HAD LIVED THERE OVER 40 YEARS AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, I THINK I'VE BEEN A VERY GOOD CITIZEN OF GARLAND.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE NEVER LAID ON PROPERTY, TEXAS NEVER LAID ON BILLS, NO PROBLEMS. MY FATHER, UH, MOVED DOWN HERE AND BUMPED THE 48 33 SIDE IN 1995.

AND HE LIVED THERE UNTIL HE DIED IN 2009.

AND THEN IT WAS DEEDED OVER TO ME.

AND I KIND OF HAPPILY LIVED ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE I WAS, I DIDN'T GO UPSTAIRS MUCH.

SO I KIND OF LIVED ON BOTH SIDES.

AND IN 2019, MY BROTHER WHO'S ALSO DISABLED ASKED IF HE COULD MOVE IN.

AND I SAID, YES.

SO HE WAS LIVING IN THE 48 33 SITES ANYWAY.

UM, I CALLED THE INSURANCE COMPANY IMMEDIATELY THAT NIGHT AND ALERTED THEM TO THE PROBLEM.

AND THEY GOT THE CLAIM PROCESS STARTED.

BOTH MY CARS WERE TOTALED IN THE FIRE.

UM, THE SIDE 48, 33, WHILE IT WASN'T DESTROYED, EVERYTHING WAS SMOKED WET AND JUST BASICALLY DESTROYED NOTHING, HARDLY SALVAGEABLE.

ANYWAY, UM, I TALKED TO THE GESTURE, TOLD HIM I WANTED TO REBUILD.

AND HE SAID, OKAY.

HE SAYS, NO, YOU GOT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO MOVE SLOW AT THE BEGINNING.

IT ALWAYS DOES.

YOU'RE GOING TO THINK YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANY ACTION, BUT WE'D HAVE TO GET A PLAN.

WE'D HAVE TO GET COSTS INVOLVED AND GET UNDERWRITERS TO APPROVE IT.

AND JUST A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS.

SO THEY HAD FIVE NATIONAL CONTRACTORS THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND TO DO THIS TYPE OF REBUILD.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS HERE IN DALLAS.

SO I MET WITH HIM AND HE WAS ENDORSED BY MY CONSTRUCT.

MY IN HIS CONSTRUCTION FIRM WAS ENDORSED BY MY INSURANCE AND GUARANTEED THERE, HIS WORK FOR FIVE YEARS AFTER IT WAS COMPLETED.

SO WE NEGOTIATED AN INITIAL CONTRACT, UM, AND WE SIGNED IT SEVEN SET CANTERBURY.

SO WITHIN TWO WEEKS AND OTHER IMMEDIATE NEEDS WERE TEMPORARY HOUSING.

AND THEN THEY WANTED US TO FIND A HOUSE THAT WE COULD LIVE IN FOR THE, AND THEY, THEY STARTED LOOKING AT HOUSES WITH A RELOCATION FOR AMOUNT OF PHOENIX THE LAST WEEK IN AUGUST.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT HOUSES AND THERE WAS A PART OF THE ANYTHING AVAILABLE IF YOU OFFER THEM, YOU UNDERSTAND THEM.

ANYWAY, WE FINALLY FOUND A HOUSE BY LOOKING AT A HOUSE IN RICHARDSON AND THE GUY SAID, I'VE GOT A GOOD HOUSE IN GARLAND.

I THINK IT WILL WORK FOR YOU.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET IN THAT HOUSE ONE OCTOBER, AND JUST FOR THE GRACE OF GOD, I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE A CAR THAT I COULD USE BY THE 23RD OF SEPTEMBER.

SO ALL THE TIME, ALL THIS IS GOING ON, I'M DEALING WITH TWO ADJUSTERS ON THE CARS.

I'M DEALING WITH THE ADJUSTER ON THE BUILDINGS.

I'M DEALING WITH THE ADJUSTER ON THE BELONGINGS AND I'M WORKING.

I COORDINATED WITH GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT.

I'M TURNING OFF THE STUFF AT THE DUPLEX AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN CALL THEM AND GOT IT SITUATED TO TURN IT ON AT THE NEW ADDRESS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WENT DOWNTOWN HERE AND SET IT UP.

SO IT COULD BE PAID DIVIDEND AUTOMATICALLY ON MY CREDIT, OUT OF MY CHECKING ACCOUNT.

SO ANYWAY, THE REAL HOLDUP WAS WHEN I CALLED THE SERVPRO SAGA THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY WANTED ME THAT ARE SERVED FROM, TO GO IN AND DO WHAT THEY CALLED A PACK-OUT OR INVENTORY.

AND SOMEHOW THAT WORKS INTO WHAT THEY DO ON THE APPRECIATION OF STUFF.

EVEN THOUGH I HAD FULL COST, FREE REPLACEMENT VALUE IN MY INSURANCE.

BUT ANYWAY, SO I MET WITH THEM THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEY WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND HE CALLED ME AND HE SAYS, WE JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH IN THERE TO THAT WORTH THE EFFORT.

AND I SAID, WELL, YOU NEED TO CALL THEIR GESTURE, TELLING HIM THAT.

HE SAID, I WILL MIDDLE OF OCTOBER, I THINK AUGUST 12TH, I GET A CALL FROM THE ADJUSTER AND HE'S PANICKED.

HE SAYS, WHY IS IT SERVPRO DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? I SAID, CAUSE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS WORTH THEIR EFFORT.

AND I SAID, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO CALL AND TELL YOU THAT.

AND HE SAID, WELL, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

SO HE CALLED HIM.

SO THEN I GET A NOTICE SAYING CERTAIN PROCESS I CAN GET IN THERE AND DO IT 19 NOVEMBER.

AND I SAID, THAT WON'T WORK.

IT'S THE

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LAMEST WE'VE GONE IN, ASKED FOR DEMO PERMITS.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.

SO WE SAID, OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY WANTS YOU TO DO IF YOU WANT THEM TO PAY THE STUFF.

SO ANYWAY, ON OCTOBER 19TH, I SIGNED THE FINAL CONTRACT WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AND THEN SHE WOULD STOP ME IN THE UNDERWRITING DEPARTMENT, HAD LOOKED AT IT AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY CUT ME A CHECK FOR 90% OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD DO.

SO I'VE GOT THAT WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO MEET SOME OF HIS GOALS AND HE'LL GET PAID.

UM, ANYWAY, ON NOVEMBER 17TH, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE LEAD ADJUSTER AT, BY INSURERS SAYING THAT CCS HAD RECEIVED THE DEPARTMENTS AND WAS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PERMANENT FOR TERM TEMPORARY