Jul 25, 2022 Plan Commission

[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 25TH PRE MEETING FOR THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION AND THIS WERE BRIEFED AND DISCUSSED THE AGENDA WITH OUR FINE CITY OF GARLAND STAFF. FOLLOWING THE PRE MEETING. WE WILL HAVE AN INTERMISSION WHERE OUR REGULAR MEETING WHICH BEGINS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. PRESENTING THIS BRIEFING FOR THE CITY TONIGHT. THIS SUMMIT. YEAH, I LIKE TO GO OVER. OKAY? WELL, LET'S SEE. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. YOU'RE NOW ON. OKAY UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? PRETTY QUESTIONS. WE HAVE THIS ONE ITEM ON THAT. NOPE. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE 22-31 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 366 MULTI FAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND 15 TOWNHOUSE DEL MULTI FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. THE CASE INFORMATION AND THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 21.4 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS COMMUNITY RETAIL AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. THIS IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TALE BLUE COLOR, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THE NORTHERN PORTION IS ZONE. I RECALL CHERIE AND THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH THURSDAY AND PDF 0 5-19, AND THEY'RE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE PROPERTY IS TO THE EAST OR ZONED COMMUNITY, RETAIL AND MULTI FAMILY AND THESE ARE ALL UNDEVELOPED. PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OR ZONE, COMMUNITY RETAIL AND OVER HERE, THERE'S A HOTEL.

AND THIS PROPERTY IS A ZONE PD 20-46 THERE IS A GAS STATION. AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST.

OVER HERE IS ZONE PD 20-4, AND THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED. GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. ALTHOUGH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A PORTION WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED AS IT HAS AN EXISTING POND, WHICH WILL BE PRESERVED AND UTILIZED AS AN AMENITY. AND THE I 30 QUARTER CATALYST AREA PLANNED SITES. THE AGING HOUSING STOCK, PARTICULARLY IN THE I 30 CORRIDOR, ALTHOUGH THE STUDY WAS CREATED PART TO THE RECENT UPTREND AND MULTI FAMILY HOUSING , ADDITIONAL NEW HOUSING WILL ONLY EXPAND HOUSING CHOICES AND FURTHER REDUCE THE AVERAGE PROPERTY AGE AND THIS PROPOSAL USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ZION ROAD, AND THIS IS DEVELOPED WITH A HOUSE AND ALL THIS IS ALL. WE'LL ALL BE DEMOLISHED PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT. THIS PORTION HIS OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL. TOP RIGHT IS A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OWN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. BOTTOM LEFT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IN THESE ARE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF SIX TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 366 OF THE UNITS AND THREE BUILDINGS WHICH WILL BE TOWNHOUSE DOUBT ALONG ZION ROAD, AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 15 UNITS, AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 381 UNITS ALTOGETHER. AND BOTH ACCESS POINTS ARE FROM ZION ROAD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS THESE TOWN HOUSE STYLE BUILDINGS ARE GREAT TRANSITION BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THE WEST. AND THESE TRADITIONAL MULTI FAMILY STYLE UNITS TO THE EAST. UM AND THERE IS A AMENITY POND HERE THAT WILL CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH. UM AND THE UM SITE PLAN DOES SHOW ALL THE AMENITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED, WHICH INCLUDES A CLUBHOUSE SWIMMING POOL, UM AND THEN SHADE ITS STRUCTURE, BARBECUE PITS DOG PARK AND SOME LEADERS BASE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OVER HERE, THERE'S AN AMENITY POND. THERE WILL BE A WALKING PATH AROUND IT. AND THE SITE DOES COMPLY WITH THE PARKING

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AND THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS. THE LEFT IS THE OF THE TOWNHOUSE ELEVATIONS FROM ZION ROAD. AND THIS IS THE POND VIEW TO THE RIGHT. AND HERE IS THE LIST OF THE DEVIATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE BUILDING HYPE. AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A MULTI FAMILY TO BASED ZONING, WHICH WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IS 50 FT. AND FOR THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 58 FT FOR THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS AND THEY WILL COMPLY WITH THE THREE STORY BUILDING, WHICH WILL BE 46 FT. AND THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS WITH GREATER FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHT INDICATOR OF HIGH QUALITY, MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE SECOND DEVIATION IS ON THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE GDC REQUIRES 20 FT DEPTH REQUIRED ALONG THE I 30 FREEWAY AND NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE ENERGY CHANGE. AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS A VARIABLE WITH LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG I 30 IN NORTH GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. THE MINIMUM DEPTH IS 14 FT AT TWO LIMITED SECTIONS ALONG NORTH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND TYPICALLY, LARGE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ARE REQUIRED ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, BUT BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRY OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, IT CREATES A PINCH POINT ALONG THE EASTERN PERIMETER. WHEREBY RESTRICT COMPLIANCE WOULD HAVE GREATER IMPACTS ON BUILDING AN ACCESS. THERE IS ALSO AN EXISTING ELECTRICAL EASEMENT ALONG I 30 AND THE EASEMENT LOCATION SPLITS THE AREA CUSTOMARILY DESIGNATED AS A STREET LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THE NEXT DEVIATION IS ON PERIMETER SCREENING AND PERIMETER SCREENING IS REQUIRED . WHERE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY AS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, AND THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY SCREENING WALL, BUT THEY'RE PRESERVING EXISTING MATURE TREES. TO PROVIDE SOME SCREENING AND THE SCREENING CANNOT BE PLEASED TO THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL AND DRAINAGE. EASTMAN ADDITIONALLY, VEGETATION IS REQUIRED ALONG THE EASTERN PERIMETER. SCREENING SHOULD BE LOCATED ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE WALL. AND THE EASTERN PERIMETER SCREENING, WHICH IS THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE IS PLACED RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ABOVE THE RETAINING WALL, WHICH LEAVES THE VEGETATION BEHIND THE SCREENING WALL. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE ARRANGEMENT AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO AVOID CREATING A NO MAN'S LAND. THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE IS SEE THROUGH AND THE VEGETATION WILL BE VISIBLE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A MULTI FAMILY TWO USES. AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE MAILED OUT. 58 LETTERS WE RECEIVED 31 WHEN IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. UM TO OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST. 111 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 144 RESPONSES WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. PRISONERS I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE

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UM. I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME RIGHT NOW. ARE THEY INDIVIDUAL? LANDLORDS RENTING OUT OTHER APARTMENTS. YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE COMPOSITION OF THE IT'S A MIXTURE OF BOTH. I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER PARIS. ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I'M SURE I'LL HAVE OTHERS. BUT I DO WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UM FEEDBACK FROM THE AUDIENCE AS WELL. ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE THERE'S EXISTING HOME ON. THE DEVELOPMENT SITE. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT A VACANT HOME? I'M NOT 100% SURE IF IT'S VACANT, UM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN CLARIFY , BUT IT WILL BE ALL DEMOLISHED BEFORE THEY START CONSTRUCTION. OKAY I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP AND DOWN THE I 30 CORRIDOR AND THAT AREA AND SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE THAT ADDRESS TO WIN WHEN THE DEVELOPER COME UP, AND THEN HE CITIZEN FEEDBACK AS WELL. UH COMMISSIONER JENKINS, EVEN MA'AM. I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. LET'S START WITH THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN. THAT PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED WHEN WE HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE. HOW MANY YEARS AGO? UO . I BELIEVE SO AROUND THAT TIME AROUND PRETTY MUCH A DECADE A LITTLE BIT OVER A DECADE AGO.

YES SIR. TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. I'M SORRY. 2012 IS ABOUT 11 YEARS AND AT THAT TIME THE COMMUNITY HAD OR PROPOSED WHAT THEY FELT THAT THE VISION FOR GARLAND WOULD BE IN THE COMING COMING YEARS. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YES, OKAY. UM IT LOOKS LIKE THE COMMUNITY AT SOME POINT THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD AREA FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR FOR OPEN PARKS, RIGHT, CORRECT KIND OF OUT OF STEP WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT PROCESS IS THAT THEY HAD YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY DID HAVE A INPUT SORT OF. TO THE CREATION OF THAT PLAN. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. UM. THIS IS A 10. GENTLE QUESTION. THE IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS CURRENTLY ZONED OR SURROUNDING THAT HIS OWN OPEN PARKS THERE IS A DIVISION BETWEEN THE 30 CORRIDOR IN THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT. BUT BUT ZONE MULTI FAMILY IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT THE CITY CONSIDER KIND OF FLIP FLOPPING THOSE. SO ARE YOU. YOU GET YOUR OPEN PARKS SEGMENT. YOU HAVE THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PORTION THAT'S MAINTAINED IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN YOU GET THE MULTI FAMILIES OWNING UNDERNEATH KIND OF SWITCH. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M SURE WE'LL WE CAN HAVE THAT LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE . OKAY MY ONLY HESITATION WITH THIS IDEA, AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSED THAT THE POND ITSELF AND AMENITY THAT WILL NOT BE CHANGED. AND YOU KNOW, UNDERLYING THAT WAS THE OPEN PARKS, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING UP A BARRIER AND THAT WOULDN'T BE PUBLIC ACCESS. SO IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO SAY THAT THAT USE SEEMS TO BE COMPATIBLE BECAUSE OPEN PARKS. TO ME. THE IDEA OF THAT WOULD BE THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. SORT OF AREA AND GET TO KIND OF PARTAKE OF THAT AMENITY. BUT WITH AS CLOSING IT OFF. WE COULDN'T FAIRLY SAY THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE THE SAME SORT OF ACCESS. IS THAT IDEA? DID YOU AGREE WITH THAT IDEA? I BELIEVE YES, THIS AMENITY WOULD BE WITHIN THIS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AMENITY POND. ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO BE AS CORRECT IT WOULD BE AN AMENITY AS PART OF THE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND AS A REMINDER OF THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN ALSO IDENTIFIED URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN FOR THIS AREA, WHICH KIND OF ENVISION HIGHER DENSITY PRESIDENTIAL, SO JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. IT KIND OF HAD TO DESIGNATIONS, UM AROUND THE GENERAL SUBJECT PROPERTY SO.

THANK YOU KNOW THE IDEA OF THE EARTH. IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING AGAIN. THIS THIS TENSION BETWEEN NO DEVELOPMENT AND ALLOW IT TO STAY. AND YET THE COMMUNITY AT SOME POINT REALIZED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL WAS THE

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ALRIGHT ARE MISCELLANEOUS SIDE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. THAT'S USUALLY WHERE I COME IN. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. OKAY? OKAY MR CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LANDSCAPE VARIANCE. THIS IS LOCATED AT 2600 MCCREE ROAD. AND THE VARIANCES TO SECTION 4.2982 OF THE GDC REQUIRING FULL COMPLIANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO, SO THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING SOME RELIEF FROM THAT AGAIN. THE LOCATION IS 2600 MCCREE ROAD, AND THIS IS THE DALLAS FOOD CENTER SITE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT THE ACREAGE IS JUST OVER 62 ACRES TOTAL AND IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOWN IN THE RED STAR THERE. AND HERE'S THE. LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS SHOWING THE OVERALL SITE. THERE'S MCCREE ROAD RIGHT THERE. THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, ALTHOUGH ACTUALLY ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED THIS ONE IN THE FAR NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE SITE. I'VE GOT SOME OTHER MAPS AND SITE PLANS WILL GET INTO THAT MORE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS DEMOLISHED THIS BUILDING AND WILL BE RECONSTRUCTING A NEW, LARGER BUILDING AND THAT TRIGGERED FULL COMPLIANCE OF THE GCC. THE GDC HAS A PROVISION IN THE LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS THAT THE DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF 50% OR MORE OF A SINGLE BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES , EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE PRIOR TO DEMOLITION IS ONE OF THE TRIGGERS. SO. HERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY OF KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE THERE. THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE AREA UNDER RECONSTRUCTION AGAIN, THIS BUILDING SHOWN HERE IN THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE SITE

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YEAH. I DON'T RECALL IT. I DON'T THINK SOMETHING HAD NOT UP THERE AND I KNOW THERE WAS A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF S H 1 90 ALONG THE KOREA DON'T RECALL, UM, THAT VARIANCES

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BUT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY CHANGES SINCE THEN. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE WAS SOME TIME AGO THAT THAT WAS APPROVED SO BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL WHAT WE DID. BUT THAT'S THAT'S BUT BUT BUT BUT WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT AT THAT TIME. I DON'T THINK EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED ANY CHANGES ON THE ON THE LANDSCAPING, UH THERE, SO JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

RIGHT COMMISSIONER ROSE IF THE LANDSCAPING. IS APPROVED BY THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.

WILL THAT BE IRRIGATED OR IS IT THEY'RE GONNA STICK TREES IN THE GROUND, AND THAT'S IT OR WILL THEY HAVE TO BE IRRIGATED? WELL ONE CLARIFICATION IS THE PLAN COMMISSION ACTUALLY HAS APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR LANDSCAPE VARIANCES SO WILL NOT CONTINUE TO COUNSEL UNLESS IT'S DENIED AND THE APPLICANT WISHES TO APPEAL. SO IF APPROVED THIS EVENING IT WOULD BE APPROVED IN THE APPLICANT CAN MOVE FORWARD. BUT DANCER YOUR SECOND QUESTION . YES THE APPLICANT HAS, UH AGREED TO IRRIGATE IRRIGATE IT PER G D C STANDARDS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MR AUBIN. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM. JUST ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION. UM. WHICH IS A MCCREE FOLLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF 6 35. MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A THROUGH ROAD. THIS WILL BECOME A DEAD END ROAD. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. YES, SIR. UM AND DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE? THE DRAWINGS FOR THE U HAUL? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IF MCCREE WILL BE VISIBLE FROM 6 35. OR THE EXTENT TO WHICH WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM 6 35 ONCE THE U. HAUL BUILDING IS BUILT ASSUMING IT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THESE DAYS, I MEAN, NOTHING IS BUILT UNTIL UNTIL IT'S BUILT IN. THE CEO HAS ISSUED. BUT UM, PERHAPS SOME, YOU KNOW OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE MAY HAVE SOME 6 35 OR LBJ. OKAY, VISIBILITY, BUT YES, SIR. YEAH, THE U HAUL.

FACILITY IS GOING TO BE BUILT RIGHT ABOUT HERE. AND THERE IS, I THINK GOING TO BE THERE ACTUALLY TO RAIDS. SO THE FROM FROM LOOKING THERE THERE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE TO ACCENT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ACCESS ROADS, FRONTAGE ROADS THAT ARE BUILT AS PART OF THE 6 35 RECONSTRUCTION, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO ROADS. THAT DO ACTUALLY CONNECT THROUGH TO MCCREE. IF THAT'S CORRECT, 11 IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CURRENT U HAUL. LOCATION IN THEN ONE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY RECORD, ACTUALLY, MR. LOOKY JUST HAPPENS TO BE HERE. SO PERFECT, HILDA. CLARIFY THAT YEAH. THE ONLY THE ONLY CONNECTING ROAD THAT I'M AWARE OF, IS WILL BE DOWN TOWARDS, UH THE RAILROAD THERE NOW. THEY'RE BUILDING A CONNECTION BETWEEN MCCREE AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD. OKAY. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT. IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND THAT WOULD PROTECT START AND WHATNOT THAT THEY HAD HAD SUGGESTED THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A ROAD RIGHT THERE. RIGHT NEXT TO THE KIND OF ALMOST WHERE THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S BUILT NOW, BUT I MAY BE INCORRECT ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT ONE, OKAY? THANK YOU. WELL, IF WE COULD GET IF IT'S SHORT NOTICE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE WE GET A LITTLE CLARIFICATION, MAYBE ON WHERE YOU HALL IS WITH RESPECT TO ME, I'M DON'T WANT TO SAY I'M SPECULATING, BUT ON THE ON THE LANDSCAPING IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET A BETTER ANSWER BETWEEN NOW AND THE MAIN MEETING. THAT'D BE AWESOME FOR THEM. A CREE CREE ROAD? YEAH JUST JUST WITH THE LAND. I MEAN, I'D FEEL A LITTLE BIT BAD ABOUT YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE TELL ONE SIDE YOU'VE GOT TO GET FULL LANDSCAPE AND THE OTHER SIDE DOESN'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME DEGREE OF EQUITY, ALTHOUGH I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS

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THANK YOU. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS. THE NEXT ITEM IS REGARDING MOBILE FOOD TRUCK PARKS THIS AS ANOTHER GDC AMENDMENT THAT CAME OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND SO IT IS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND SO MOBILE FOOD TRUCK PARKS ARE NOT CURRENTLY DEFINED WAY IN USE OF ANY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IN THE GDC.

SO THIS WOULD BE AN ENTIRELY NEW LAND USE BEING INTRODUCED. AND TO THE ZONING REGULATIONS OF THE GDC. AND OF COURSE, SOME REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL. AND, OF COURSE, A DEFINITION. SO UM, WITH THAT HERE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE VISUAL VISUAL EXAMPLES OF SOME FOOD, TRUCK PARKS AND KIND OF WHAT THEY COULD LOOK LIKE THESE ARE BOTH ACTUALLY FROM THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. OFFER SOME SEATING. SEATING AREAS TYPICALLY, AND THESE ARE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT TYPICALLY ARE THERE PERMANENTLY PERMANENTLY. THAT SORT OF THING, NOT JUST KIND OF A COME AND GO SPECIAL EVENT TYPE DEAL, SO THE DEFINITION UM PROPOSED DEFINITION IS A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK PARK IS A FIXED COMMERCIAL LOCATION AND PERMANENT

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THE EXPECTED SIZE OF THE EXPECTED SIZE OR CAPACITY OF THE PARK. AT SOME POINT, WE MAY WANT TO TRIGGER A REQUIREMENT FOR DUMPSTER OR YOU MAY WANT TO TRIGGER A REQUIREMENT FOR JUST FOR TRASH. I MEAN, I ASSUME PARTICULARLY PEOPLE ARE EATING ON SITE. THEY'VE GOT TO BE TRASH. PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR TRASH AWAY AND I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY DO IT ANYWAY, WITHOUT US REQUIRING IT, BUT UM, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY? MISSION AROSE. YES. IS THIS, UH GOING TO BE RESTRICTED TO WELL, LET ME REPHRASE THAT. OVER AT DUCK CREEK GOLF COURSE. OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE, UH FOOD TRUCKS COME IN. FIRE WILL MAY HAVE FOOD TRUCKS COME IN. WILL THAT BE DISALLOWED NOW? BECAUSE OF THIS? I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE TEMPORARY KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT THAT WOULD FALL INTO MORE THAT CATEGORY. THIS IS INTENDED MORE FOR AN ACTUAL PERMANENTLY AND USED THAT GETS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THAT'S REALLY THERE TO STAY, SO THAT DEFINITION WILL BE PART OF IT.

SO THAT COULD CONTINUE. YES, SIR. MISSION TO PARIS. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE OF THEM IS AROUND. IF THERE WILL BE LIVE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT ALLOWED ON SITE, UM, WRAPPED MY REFERENCES IN THE COLONY. THEY HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK PARK, RIGHT? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS MOBILE FOOD UNIT TYPES. THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD UNITS. SO MAYBE A CONSIDERATION IS TO BE VERY PRESCRIPTIVE OF EXAMPLES WOULD BE A PUSH CARD ROADSIDE ROADSIDE VENDOR AND.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY DANCE RIGHT? THOSE COULD ALSO BE MOBILE UNITS WHERE THEY'RE PULLING THEIR ACTUAL, UM, THEIR FOOD TRUCK. SO MAYBE SOME REQUIREMENTS AROUND THAT ESPECIALLY IF YOU SEE A PUSH CARD. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T ENVISION. THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. AND THEN UM, AND THEN ARE THERE S U P RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE ARE FOOD TRUCKS ACROSS THE METROPLEX , UH, FOOD TRUCK PARKS ACROSS THE METROPLEX. SO WHAT S U P RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE YOU SEEN? I KNOW IN SOME OF MY RESEARCH. UM A LOT OF THEM HAVE ANNUAL UM OR TEMPORARY PERMITS FOR THE AREA, SO I JUST WANT TO UH, BETTER UNDERSTAND THOSE THREE THINGS ONE AS YOU P RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE MOBILE OF FOOD UNIT REQUIREMENT CONSIDERATIONS AND THEN IF THERE'S LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE THEN YOU MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER SOME OF THE, UM UM THE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THESE WOULD GO. SO ANY FEEDBACK WELCOME THERE. SO THANKS. THE LIVE MUSIC THAT WASN'T REALLY DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE. TO MY RECOLLECTION. OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CITIES, NOISE OR FINANCES AND WHATNOT. BUT CERTAINLY WITH AN S U P COMING THROUGH THE PROCESS IF SOMEONE IS PROPOSING STAGE WITH SOME LIVE MUSIC OR ONE OF THE CASE, MAYBE THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY BE CAPTURED AS PART OF THAT REQUEST UP FRONT. SO THAT'S VERY CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT THAT , YOU KNOW. MAYBE MAYBE, UM MAYBE HAPPENING. SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO. NO PARTICULAR STANDARDS WERE DISCUSSED REGARDING LIVE LIVE MUSIC. OTHER THAN THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND WOULD BE NOISE NOISE RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WOULD SOMEWHAT WANTED THAT, UM, ON THE TYPES OF VEHICLES. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT DOUBLE CHECK AND CIRCLE BACK WITH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THERE WAS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE FOR JUST INDIVIDUAL FOOD TRUCKS, AND THEY CHECK THE DEFINITION ON THAT AND SEE WHAT THE CONSISTENCY IS THERE. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING KIND OF ON THE BOOKS OR IN PLACE OR IN THE WORKS. I SHOULD SAY, UM AND THEN YOUR YOUR LAST QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM.

UM I KNOW WE LOOKED AT 11 OR TWO PARTICULAR CITIES. I'M DRAWING A BLANK. I THINK MESQUITE WAS ONE OF THEM. I DON'T RECALL THE SECOND ONE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT THEY HAD HAD A SIMILAR REQUIREMENT AS FAR AS RECORDING S UPS THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO THE COMMITTEE SEEMED MOST INTERESTED IN THAT AND VERSUS ALLOWING THEM BY RIGHT AND ANY PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICTS. THE COLONY HAS NEAR GRAND SCAPE HAS A HUGE ONE, AND THEY SO THAT MAYBE ONE SOURCE TO GO CHECK AS WELL AND THEN THAT'S PART OF WHERE THEY LIVE. MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT CAME FROM BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S A THAT COULD BE A DRAW FOR FOLKS TO COME. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

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IS THAT ANYTHING THAT ANY LANGUAGE WE NEED TO PUT INTO THIS. THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I BELIEVE IN ALL THOSE CIRCLE BACK WITH THE ATTORNEYS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ORDINANCE IS PRETTY SPECIFIC, JUST VEHICLES, VEHICLES SHALL BE ON AN APPROVED SURFACE, AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFY ANYTHING. THAT'S NOT A VEHICLE, SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THAT'S OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM FOR THE PRE MEETING. SO WITH NOTHING FURTHER. WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK REGULAR MEETING.

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AS I'M SURE OUR REGULAR VIEWERS WILL NOTICE THIS MEETING IS BEING CHAIRED BY AND BY MYSELF TONIGHT. AND NOT BY CHAIRMAN ROBERTS. MY NAME IS CHRIS HOT, AND I'M THE PROUD VICE CHAIRMAN OF THIS, UH THIS COMMISSION AND FROM DISTRICT EIGHT. CHAIRMAN ROBERTS IS AWAY ON HOLIDAY AND WE WISH HIM THE BEST OF TIMES. UM, AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE BEGIN OUR MEETINGS WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. IT IN. NO WAY AFFECTS YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE THIS COMMISSION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT NEVER HAS. AND NEVER WILL. TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER DALTON. BECAUSE TO JOIN ME. MOST PRECIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER. WE COME BEFORE YOU NOW. THANKING YOU FOR THIS CITY, THE STATE THIS NATION THAT WE LIVE IN FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE. THE RIGHTS WE HAVE AS CITIZENS TO COME BEFORE. THE BODY OF THE GOVERNMENT AND VOICE OUR OPINION ON CASES. WE ASKED FATHER FOR THIS COMMISSION TO USE THE BEST WISDOM. FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY AND THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE THIS EVENING. FATHER WE PRAY FOR THE HEALTH WELL BEING OF EVERYONE HERE. WE ASKED FOR YOUR.

GUIDANCE WE ASKED FOR YOUR PROTECTIONS OF THE MEN AND WOMEN. WHOSE SERVICE EVERY DAY.

PROTECTING US. WHETHER AT HOME OR ABROAD. THESE THINGS WE ASK IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND PUBLIC STANDS ONE DAY. WITH A STRONG. WELCOME AND THANK YOU. WELCOME TO OUR MEETING AT A FEW THINGS TO MENTION. APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED 15 MINUTES PRESENT, AND ALL OTHERS ARE ALLOWED. THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP, LET US KNOW WE'LL ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. ALSO IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK , PLEASE CHECK IN AT THE KIOSK IN THE HALLWAY. OR, AS TRACY SAID, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP COME AND SEE HER AND WHEN YOU DO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. RIGHT OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ALL ITEMS UNDER THIS SECTION OR

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THE PLAN COMMISSION HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS. I WILL NOW READ THE CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA. NORMALLY WE WOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. TO REQUEST AN ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SINCE

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THIS ITEM HAS PRESENTED SECOND WELL HEARD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER PARIS. WITH NO DISCUSSION. UH, PREPARE THE VOTE.

MISSION GROW HAIR. I DON'T THINK SHE'S RECORDED YOURS. THERE WE GO. AND. AND THAT VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. AND THE AFFIRMATIVE. THE RIGHT. ONTO ARE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ALL

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AND AS THE APPLICANT HERE. ALL RIGHT. EVENING. FANTASTIC MY NAME IS JEFF PATTON . I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT JAIL. BE PARTNERS. 5832 GARDEN. DALE DRIVE. DALLAS TEXAS 75228.

FIRST AND FOREMOST WANT TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR TAKING UP THIS REQUEST THIS EVENING. JOBY PARTNERS WAS FOUNDED IN 2007. WE HAVE DONE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SINCE 2007. WE HAVE COMPLETED 56 DEVELOPMENTS EXCEEDING 20,000 UNITS. MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS DO COME HERE IN TEXAS. AND ABOVE. YOU CAN SEE AN AERIAL SHOWING THE DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE COMPLETED IN NORTH TEXAS. WE SPECIALIZE IN DEVELOPMENTS FROM THREE STORY GARDEN GARDEN PRODUCT UP TO HIGH RISE TOWERS. ALL. THE PICTURES THAT YOU SEE IN THE PRESENTATION ARE FROM COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE BUILT AND WE HOPE THAT THESE PICTURES ALONG WITH THE PRESENTATION SHOW THE QUALITY THAT WE PLAN TO BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY. JOBY PARTNERS IS VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, MEANING THAT WE ARE THE DEVELOPER. THE BUILDER AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, SO WE CONTROL ALL ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. TO GIVE YOU A QUICK CONTEXT. HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE OUTLINED IN NAVY. IT IS A LITTLE OVER 21 ACRES 21.3 ACRES AND CURRENTLY ON THE SITE IS THE SIZE OF THE POND. WE PLAN TO RETAIN THE POND IN A MINUTE TIES THE POND. WILL BE PARTNERS DOES THINK THAT THIS SITE IS PRIMED FOR DEVELOPMENT. BUT AS CURRENTLY ZONED IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO SO. CURRENT ZONING IS COMMUNITY RETAIL. WE DO NOT BELIEVE COMMUNITY RETAIL IS VIABLE OPTION HERE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACCESS OFF OF THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF ACCESS OFF OF I 30 REQUIRING YOU TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY OFF ZION ROAD ALSO HAS A LACK OF VISIBILITY BEING BEHIND TO CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL BUSINESSES ON I 30. WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITY AGREES WITH OUR ASSESSMENT AS THE FUTURE LAND USE HAS BEEN DESIGNATED A MAJORITY OF URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS . THERE IS A SMALL PORTION THAT'S OPEN SPACE JUST TO OUR NORTH, WHICH WILL BE WHERE THE POND IS. SHOWN HERE IS A SITE PLAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE PROPOSING 381 UNITS, 29 OF WHICH WILL BE EFFICIENCIES, 247 OF WHICH WILL BE ONE BEDROOMS AND 100 AND FIVE WHICH WILL BE TWO BEDROOM UNITS. WE DO HAVE A MIXTURE OF BUILDING TYPES AND UNIT TYPES ON THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TOWN HOME UNITS. UNITS THAT ARE TRADITIONAL FLATS IN THREE STORY BUILDINGS AND UNITS IN FOUR STORY BUILDINGS. ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS WILL BE CONDITIONED

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YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GONE WITH A MODERN FARMHOUSE DESIGN STYLE HERE, SCOTT CLEAN LINES, CLEAN COLORS THAT WE THINK WILL FIT WELL INTO THE NATURAL CONTEXT THAT WE'RE RETAINING HERE. IN ADDITION TO RETAINING THE POND, WE ALSO DESIGNED OUR ENTRY PLAZA AROUND THREE EXISTING TREES TO LIVE OAKS AND AN ELM, WHICH WE ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN 60 AND 100. YEARS OLD. WE PLANNED OUR ENTRY PLAZA AROUND THESE TREES. SO THAT DAY ONE OUR COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT FEEL THAN ANY OTHER MULTI FAMILY BUILT BY RETAINING THESE TREES. HERE'S THE HIGHLIGHTED SHOT AT THE TOWN HOMES ALONG ZION. YOU CAN SEE THE STOOPS THERE WITH THE INJURY . THERE'S TREES, PLANTED JUST WOMEN AND ENHANCE STREETSCAPE THERE BECAUSE OF THOSE TOWN HOMES. AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER SHOT OF THE THREE STORY AMENITY BUILDING AT OUR ENTRY PLAZA AND THAT PASSIVE COURTYARD BETWEEN BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO. HERE'S A SHOT OF ONE OF THE LEASING RESIDENT LOUNGES THAT WE'VE BUILT IN A DEVELOPMENT HERE IN DALLAS. AND HERE'S ANOTHER SHOT OF ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LEASING LOBBY. THAT DESK YOU SEE IS WHERE THE LEASING AGENT SIT THAT IS OPEN TO RESIDENTS. 24 7 , SO WHEN BUSINESSES NOT BEING CONDUCTED, RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO GO DOWN THERE. WORK FROM HOME OR GATHER. JUST USE THE SPACE AS THEY PLEASE. HERE'S A SHOT OF OUR POOL COURTYARD. THIS IS A MASSIVE FULL COURTYARD. IT'S OVER HALF AN ACRE BEING TURNED 50 FT LONG AND OVER 100 FT. WIDE TO THE RIGHT IS A SHOT OF A DEVELOPMENT WE BUILT WITH A SIMILAR SIZED COURTYARD. YOU CAN SEE THE POOL THERE AND THEN, UH , ON THE PICTURE, AND THEN OFF THE PICTURE IS THE PASSIVE SIDE OF THE COURTYARD. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE VERY SIMILAR OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. HERE'S A SHOT OF ONE OF THOSE SMALLER, PASSIVE AMENITY COURTYARDS. WE REALLY TRIED TO MAXIMIZE EVERY OPEN SPACE ON THE PROPERTY TO GIVE RESIDENTS MULTIPLE AREAS WHERE THEY CAN GATHER HAPPY RESIDENT IS A HAPPY COMMUNITY MEMBER. HERE'S SOME SHOTS OF OUR DOG PARK AND THE POND AMENITIES. YOU CAN SEE THE DOG PARK ON THE LEFT, AND THE TOP PICTURE IS A RENDERING OF THE DOG PARK AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE WATERFRONT SEATING AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING DONE BY THE POND. HERE IS A SHOT OF OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACE HIGHLIGHTED. YOU CAN SEE OVER HALF OF THE SITE WERE ACTUALLY DEDICATING TO LANDSCAPED AREA AND OPEN SPACE. THIS IS 30% MORE THAN IS REQUIRED. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DECISION TO RETAIN THE POND, WHICH IS A LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT SPACE.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AS AN AMENITY. WE'RE GONNA ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THAT. BUT THEN IT DOES. DUAL PURPOSE IN BUFFERING ARE MULTI FAMILY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH BECAUSE OF DISTANCE. AND THEN THE LARGE, MATURE TREE GROVE NORTH OF THE POND. THERE'S A GREAT JOB OF BUFFERING OUR PROPERTY. BECAUSE OF BROKEN UP SIDELINES. HERE'S A LIST OF MODIFICATIONS. WE THINK THAT THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT MODIFICATIONS ARE ITEMS TO

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HERE'S A SHOT COMING UP THE ENTRY PLAZA AGAIN. THIS IS OUR AMENITY BUILDING ONE SO LEASING AND RESIDENT OFFICES WILL BE IN HERE. THIS IS THE PASSIVE COURTYARD BETWEEN BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO. AND HERE'S A SHOT OF THE PASSIVE SIDE OF THE POOL COURTYARD AND THEN THE POOL COURTYARD BEYOND AGAIN. THIS IS OVER HALF AN ACRE. ANOTHER SHOT OF THE POOL. THIS IS A RENDERING OF OUR TIERED DOG PARK THAT WILL PLAY OFF OF THE POND THERE. AND THEN HERE IS THE WATERSIDE SEATING AREA. ANOTHER SHOT EVENING TIME OF THE POOL. AND THEN A SHOT OVER ALL OF THE POND THAT WE'RE RETAINING. WRAPPING UP. I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND DO REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF OUR PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE DO HAVE FULL STAFF REPORT. WE DO COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE ARE PROPOSING A CLASS A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT HERE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. WE CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THOSE THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH AND WE WOULD COMMIT TO MEETING WITH AND VISITING. ANYONE WHO IS WILLING BETWEEN NOW AND COUNSELOR WHO WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M CERTAIN THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS. LET'S SEE. LET'S START OUT WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE. YES, SIR. YOU HAVE TWO ENTRANCES. OR EXITS ZION ROAD.

HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC? COMING IN, AND, UH , GETTING OUT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A RIGHT TURN LANE IN THEIR, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED PUTTING TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THERE SO THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET RUN OVER OR HIT BECAUSE THIS WILL CREATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YES SIR. WE HAVE, UM, ENGAGE THAT TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND IMPLEMENTED WHAT THEY SUGGESTED WOULD ENABLE THE AREA TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND ACCEPTABLE LEVEL. ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS NOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT. SO WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THAT. NO, SIR. BUT THAT RIGHT TURN DECELERATION LANE WILL GET OUR TRAFFIC OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT THE RESIDENTS NORTH OF US CAN CONTINUE TO FLOW. PROVIDING THEY DON'T DO YOU TOO. YEAH YES, SIR. BUT EVEN IF THEY DO, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN WE'VE CREATED A LANDSCAPE ISLAND SO THEY COULD TURN AROUND THERE AS WELL. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE TRAFFIC FOLKS ABOUT INSTALLING STOP SIGNS SO EVERYONE ELSE IGNORE, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS, NORTH AND SOUTH ON ZION ROAD. MUST STOP AS WELL AS YOU ALL. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE PRESENT TENANTS COMING OUT. SO THAT'S I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONTROLLED BY US. BUT IF THE CITY WANTED TO PUT A STOP SIGN HERE, WE WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT. I THINK THAT THAT DOES MAKE IT A SAFER INTERSECTION. YES, SIR. WOULD YOU PAY FOR IT? UM YES, WE WOULD PAY FOR A STOP SIGN BOTH BOTH ENTRANCES. IF THE CITY DECIDED THAT THAT THAT IS WHAT THEY DESIRED, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR STUFF SAYING YES, THANK YOU. LET'S SEE COMMISSIONER PARIS. HELLO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND I'M SURE DURING THE PRE MEETING YOU HEARD

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YES, MA'AM. APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE ALL OF THE ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU ENGAGE IN TERMS OF OAS, ETCETERA, BUT YOU'VE YOU'VE RECEIVED CITIZEN FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE H O S. THERE'S TWO IN THE AREA. YES MA'AM. WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON H O A, AND WE'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE A LETTER IN SUPPORT FROM A BOARD MEMBER. THERE. UM BUT THE WAY TO THE NORTH OF US WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET WITH WHICH WAS AN ERROR ON OUR PART, AND WE COMMIT TO MEETING WITH ANY WHO ARE WILLING FROM THIS POINT UNTIL COUNCIL TO REMEDY THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSES. COMMISSIONER OBEN.

THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS HAD UM , SOME OF THESE MAY BE BETTER ANSWERED BY STAFF, SO I DON'T IF YOU WANT ME TO SAVE THOSE FOR LATER OR HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT CHAIR UM IT'S FOR STAFF. LET'S JUST KEEP WITH OKAY. UM THE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO THE, UN THE FOUR STORY BUILDING THAT WILL MAKE THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF THE PLATE HEIGHT. CORRECT. THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE THERE'S THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT'S IN. SO THERE'S JUST ABOUT GIVING A CONSISTENT PRODUCT ACROSS THE ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, SIR. OKAY SO, AND THAT'S 9 TO 11 FT. PLAYED IN FOR VOTE PLATE FLOOR PLATE. THAT IS FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOOR. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE EACH FLEET TO LEVEL HAS A 9 TO 11 FT CEILING, UM THE. THE DENSITY.

THE DENSITY IS 19 UNITS PER ACRE. IS THAT RIGHT? 18.72 OKAY , THAT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY LOW EXTREMELY LOUD. THIS WOULD BE THE LEAST DENSE PROPERTY THAT JAIL B HAS EVER DEVELOPED. AH! OKAY? AH! WHAT IF WE CAN'T IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE LOOKS LIKE THE PONDS TAKING UP A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, THE POND IS TAKING UP A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. UM WE MADE THE DECISION EARLY ON TO RETAIN THE POND. OKAY WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S AN AMENITY. BUT THEN ALSO IT DOES A GREAT JOB OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR WITH THAT BUFFER. UM AND THEN, AS WELL AS WITH THE LAND THAT WE WERE LEFT BUILDABLE. WE ONLY POPPED TWO BUILDINGS UP TO FOUR STORIES. WE DID THAT SO THAT WE COULD PUT THE TOWN HOMES WHICH ARE MUCH LESS DENSE ALONG ZION ROAD. BUT THEN WE DECIDED THAT 381 UNITS WAS ABOUT ALL WE NEEDED THERE, SO WE DIDN'T POP THE OTHER BUILDINGS UP TO FOUR STORIES AS WELL. CAN I ADD TO THAT MAXWELL MAXWELL FISHER WITH MASTER PLAN TO 595 DALLAS PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS 75 034, EVEN IF YOU WOULD TAKE THAT POND OUT, COMMISSIONER

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BUT I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN TELL US WHEN YOU COME TALK TO US. TELL US WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT STOP SIGN ON ZION ANYWAY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE ADDITION THE CONSIDERATION OF ADDING ETERNALLY THERE. SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. OKAY UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS HELP COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. UM FIRST QUESTION. IS THIS GOING TO BE AN OWNER MANAGED PROPERTY OR A THIRD PARTY PROPERTY? SO JAIL BE PARTNERS HAS JILL BE PARTNERS? THE DEVELOPER WILL BE BUILDERS, THE BUILDER AND THEN GILBY MANAGEMENT OR MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND SO ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS HAPPEN IN HOUSE UNDER THE SAME ROOF, WHICH CREATES A GREAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN US.

THERE'S NO FINGER POINTING. IT'S ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL ALL BE OWNER OWNER MANAGED. YES, SIR. SECOND QUESTION. THERE'S REFERENCE TO BEING A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL MADE AN EFFORT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD. REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SPACE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE TO PARTAKE IN THAT KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT IS CORRECT. JUST NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY IS LAND OWNED BY THE CITY, WHICH IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. BUT THEN THE LAND THAT IS ON OUR PROPERTY WOULD BE PRIVATE. AND THAT FUTURE LANE USE DOES HAVE A SMALL SECTION OF OPEN SPACE TO THE NORTH, BUT IT IS A VERY MINOR PORTION OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. OKAY? UM I, UH LASTLY WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT YOU DID TAKE THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ENVISION GARLAND PLAN INTO CONSIDERATION IN CHOOSING THIS SITE AND MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO KIND OF ADDRESS

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GREAT. AS YOU LEAVE ZION COMING SOUTH TO ENTER, UM THE SERVICE ROAD AHEAD WEST. THIS IS THE FIRST APARTMENT COMPLEX. YOU SEE , IT IS THE REPUBLIC, WEST AND EAST. 848 UNITS. IT EXTENDS DOWN I 30 AND BOB TOWN. UM, ALL THE WAY TO I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY 848 UNITS. THE NEXT IS THE PARK AT

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230 UNITS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT THERE, SOUTH OF I 30. UM ON THE OTHER SIDE SOUTH OF 30.

AND THEN THESE ARE NOT GARLAND MANSIONS AT BAYSIDE 1.5 MILES FROM UM, FAST PRO. 448 UNITS.

ANYONE THAT HAS DRIVEN TO ROCK WALL HAS SEEN THE HUGE COMPLEX. AND THEN REVEAL ON THE LAKE, TWO MILES FROM BASS PRO 484 UNITS. SO. WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT IN 1983 JANUARY IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE DANNY FAULKNER WAS DOING HIS THING, BUT HE WASN'T REALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION. SO WE BOUGHT HIGH OUR FIRST HOUSE TO BUY. WE WERE IN OUR TWENTIES. UM, AND OF COURSE, IT ALL FELL APART. ALL THE VALUE WENT DOWN. YOU KNOW WHEN IT ALL BLEW UP. SO, UM MY PREMISE IS. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX TOWN HOME CONDOMINIUM OUT ON THE I 30 CORRIDOR. THERE ARE STILL UM CONCRETE SLABS. NOW THE NEW QUIKTRIP HAS TAKEN A LOT OF THAT OUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME ON THE NORTH SIDE. UM SO IT'S BEEN A BLIGHT FOR 40 YEARS. WHAT'S HAPPENED OUT ON I 30 ON THE CORRIDOR. AND IT HASN'T IMPROVED. IT HAS NOT IMPROVED. WE'RE SATURATED AND OVERWHELMED WITH APARTMENTS. AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE AND WE HAVE NOT. THE ONLY OTHER INFORMATION I HAVE IS I DID A FIVE MILE USING A PROGRAM OF FIVE MILE RADIUS OF LEMON TREE LANE. FIVE MILE RADIUS. 112 PROPERTIES 18,190 UNITS. THREE MILE RADIUS 48 PROPERTIES 8386 UNITS. ONE MILE RADIUS. 10 PROPERTIES 202,384 UNITS. SO AND I HAVE. COPIES THREE SETS OF THAT INFORMATION. AND I'D BE GLAD TO LEAVE IT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS, UM ZONE ZONING CASE TO PLEASE STAND UP RIGHT NOW.

COMMISSIONERS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN THIS EVENING. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU STATED THAT YOU LIVED THERE FOR A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF YEARS.

YEARS AND YOU HAVE YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WAS A BLIGHT THE AREA HAD BEEN OR IS IN YOUR OPINION.

WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DEVELOP THIS AREA? I THINK THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN COMMENT ON THAT. ALL I'M SAYING IS I'VE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS I'VE SEEN ALL THE APARTMENTS, THE TOWN HOMES, CONDOS. AND WE JUST DON'T NEED ANYMORE IN SOUTH GARLAND, THAT'S ALL JUST ALONG THE CORRIDOR. UM, YOU KNOW, 1 90 WENT BEHIND US, AND SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

UM SO AND WE WERE SHOCKED. WE'VE HAD 10 DAYS TO PREPARE TO COME SPEAK TO YOU ALL. BECAUSE WE WERE UNAWARE. AND THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THE APPLICANT HAD MET WITH WELLINGTON SHORE. AND I DON'T EVEN THINK WELLINGTON SURES WILL VISIBLY SEE. THEY DON'T THEY WON'T EVEN GO OUT ON ZION, SO IT WAS JUST CONFUSING AS TO WHY THE SMALL PEOPLE. I MEAN, I'M LESS THAN 1/4 OF THE

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OTHER QUESTIONS. NO OKAY? OH, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A BILL SWISHER.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL SWISHER AND I LIVE AT 44 22 SCENIC CIRCLE BEFORE I GET STARTED. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I SIT IN YOUR POSITION FOR 8.5 YEARS BACK WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH, AND I WAS IN YOUR POSITION FOR FOUR YEARS, SO I KNOW IT'S A THANKLESS JOB, AND IT TAKES EXTRA TIME AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO BOTH SEEN AND UNSEEN. UM MAY I ASK A SHOW OF HANDS AND Y'ALL WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DRIVEN BY THE PROPERTY IN AND AROUND THE AREA IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, RAISE A HAND. THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED CR COMMUNITY RETAIL, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. THE REASON IS WE NEED THAT IN SOUTH GARLAND. YOU JUST HEARD FROM MR JENNINGS THAT WE HAVE AN EXCESS SUPPLY OF APARTMENTS, AND THAT DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S IN THE AREA IMMEDIATELY. NORTH IMMEDIATELY WEST AND IMMEDIATELY SOUTH AND SO UM, WE'RE IN DIRE.H SPACE LEFT. ALTHOUGH I 30 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL COMMUNITY SERVICES IS WHAT WHAT WE REALLY NEED THERE. UM GARLAND MADE A SEVERAL ZONING MISTAKES OVER THE LAST YEAR. SOME OF YOUR OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER SOME OF YOU AREN'T UM, THE MIRACLE MILE MONEY SAVING MILE, ALLOWING SO MANY AUTOMOTIVE USES. HELLO, GUY 30. I MEAN ALONG GARLAND ROAD. UH, PEOPLE LAUGH AT US IN THE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE OF THAT, AND WE SUFFER FROM A FROM MAKING POOR ZONING DECISIONS YEARS AGO. ANOTHER EXAMPLE MIGHT BE, UM WELL, WE COULD CALL EASTGATE WHICH USED TO BE THE PREMIER. UH APARTMENT PROPERTY IN THE METROPLEX. IT WAS THE STANDARD. IT WAS A GOLD STANDARD. AND THEN IT SAID IDLE AND WENT IN THE FUNK AND HELD UP DEVELOPMENT FOR YEARS WHILE THEY TRIED TO FIGURE OUT THE LEGALITY , SO THAT ALL FINALLY GOT RID OF IT, AND REDEVELOPMENT CAME IN. WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IN SOUTH GARLAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN, AND IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE LEGACY THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE. OKAY NOW I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE AWESOME DEVELOPERS THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENTS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND I BELIEVE THEY'D MAKE A VERY QUALITY PRODUCT. I'M JUST NOT SURE THIS PROJECT ON THIS PROPERTY IS THE BEST THING . ONE OF THE THINGS IS, I BELIEVE THAT POND IS A DESIGNATED WETLANDS, SO THEY'D HAVE A HARD TIME TEACHING IT OUT IF THEY WANTED TO. AND THEN EVEN IF THEY LEFT IT ABOUT EVERY THREE YEARS. IT DRIES UP AND GOES DRY, OR THEY'RE GOING TO FILL IT UP OR THEIR RESIDENTS CAN BE LOOKING AT A MUD HOLE THERE. OKAY, I DRIVE BY THAT TWICE A DAY AND HEAD FOR THE LAST 40 38 YEARS. SO I'M JUST SAYING IT. IT'S NOT EXACTLY IS IT MAY SEEM UM, ANOTHER THING.

IT'S SOMETHING, GARLAND. BUT IT'S IN MURPHY, A NEIGHBOR OF OURS, AND IF YOU GO UP 78 IN THE MURPHY, YOU SEE SELF STORAGE ROLL, OKAY, THEY'RE MAKING. THEY MADE ZONING MISTAKES THERE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO EASY AND I DONE I'M DONE. UH WHAT LEGACY YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE. MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST THE SEEMING ANY QUESTIONS? IN PARIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR. EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND AND I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING QUESTION FOR YOU AND YOU HAD MENTIONED COMMUNITY RETAIL, AND I DID HEAR THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THE THOUGHT THAT COMMERCIAL RETAIL TYPICALLY WOULDN'T SURVIVE THERE BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS OR THOUGHTS. DO YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY RETAIL? NO. MRS JENNINGS, I ASKED WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON IT. BUT OKAY, MIXED USE. OKAY MIXED USE LIKE WE HAVE DOWNTOWN. MAKES USE LIKE THEY HAVE IT. FIRE WELL, SOMETHING THAT IT'S GOT RETAIL AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND APARTMENTS ARE. TOWNHOUSES OR CONDOS. OKAY NOW THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY DEVELOPING WHAT THEY HAVE, AND I HIGHLY RESPECT THAT. BUT FOR WHAT THE AREA NEEDS ITS COMMUNITY RETAIL AND IT COULD PROVIDE SERVICES JUST LIKE WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN MIXED JUICE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE IN FIRE GOING NEXT YEAR IT TO ME . THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR

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QUESTION IS IF THIS WERE TO STAY AS COMMUNITY RETAIL DON'T YOU THINK THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE AS BAD OR WORSE THAN APARTMENTS ANY RETAIL. YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE FOLKS. WHO ARE MORE WHO ARE NOT AS CAREFUL. GOING AND COMING INTO THE PROJECT AND AS A RESULT YOU MIGHT HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE ACCIDENTS, SO THAT'S A REAL CONCERN. AND I RESPECT THAT. TOTALLY. I THINK MAYBE UM THE BIG TRAFFIC TIMES FOR MOST ALL APARTMENTS ARE EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO WORK. AND IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THEY'RE COMING HOME. I BELIEVE COMMUNITY RETAIL WOULD BE LIGHTER FLOW AND STEADY ALL DAY LONG. INDEED IT MAY BE MORE TRAFFIC TOTAL, BUT THE HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES WOULD BE FAR LESS FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, OTHER THAN THE TIMES OF THAT BUSINESSES WOULD BE OPEN AND CLOSE. MY OPINION. ANOTHER THING IS THE PEACH POINT UP THERE. WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE AN EXIT? GETTING RIGHT ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD TO UM 30 GOING LIST. AH THE OVERFLIGHT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT THE FRONTAGE GOES RIGHT BESIDE THAT. THAT'S HOW THE HOTEL IN THE EXXON STATION GET ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. THEY CAN GO IN BY THAT PINCH POINT RIGHT BESIDE IT, AND HAVE THAT BE A LOT EASIER WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND GO WEST TOWARD DOWNTOWN. NOW THEY COULDN'T GO EAST AND THAT'S WHEN UP AND TURNED AROUND AND WENT BACK THE OTHER WAY, BUT FOR ANYBODY GOING WEST TOWARDS DOWNTOWN THAT SEEMS LIKE A NATURAL EXIT POINT FOR TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND NOT HAVE TO GET OUT ON. ZION WROTE. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING . ARE YOU DO I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID I DON'T FOLLOW HIM IN SUBSTANCE. ANOTHER QUESTION. THE DEVELOPER HAS VOLUNTEERED TO PAY FOR STOP SIGNS THAT THEY'RE TWO ENTRANCES . FOUR WAY STOPS OR THREE WAY STOPS, I GUESS. WOULD THAT NOT ASSIST IN CONTROLLING TRAFFIC? IT MIGHT. IT'S NOT A BIG INVESTMENT ON THEIR PART. I CAN BUY A STOP SIGN FOR $135. SO IT'S NOT A BIG FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. OKAY UH BUT I UNDERSTAND. FRANKLY I'M NOT A TRAFFIC EXPERT. HE'S GOT TWO ENTRANCES THERE. I HOPE BOTH ENTRANCES. OR IS THERE JUST ONE INTEREST? THERE'S TWO IN THERE. I'D LIKE TO SEE A TURN LANE FOR BOTH ENTRANCES SO THAT ANYBODY WANTED TO GET IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. TIM GO UP THE RIGHT SIDE AND GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR THAT OTHER TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AS VALUABLE AS ANYTHING. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE. UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT AN ENTRYWAY. BUT THERE'S A WORD FOR IT. RUNWAY AND THE RUNWAY ONLY GOES BACK TO THE CORNER WHERE THE X IDEAS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S PACKS UP BEHIND IT? SO THERE MIGHT BE IF YOU HAD YOU HAD THE RUNWAY IN FRONT OF BOTH ENTRANCES? YOU MIGHT HAVE. UH MORE STACKING ALONG THE WHOLE SIDE INSTEAD OF IN THAT FRONT HALF PIECE. I'M NOT A TRAFFIC PERSON. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT IT. BUT FROM A TRAFFIC ASSEMBLY THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE AND THEN EXTEND ONE OF THOSE DRIVES OUT TO THE PINCH POINT THERE AND EMPTY IT OUT ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD GOING WEST. AS A WAY TO GET TRAFFIC GOING ENCOURAGING TRAFFIC TO GO OUT THAT WAY. IN THE MORNINGS COULDN'T COULDN'T DO IT IN THE AFTERNOONS COMING HOME, BUT IT SHOULD BE A HELP IN THE MORNINGS. AH, COMMISSIONER OVEN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, MR PRITCHARD. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. UM SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS THAT THE THAT IT'S NOT COMMUNITY RETAIL HERE. YOU'RE NOT OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS. UM, FRANKLY, I'M NOT. I GO TO WORK AT 5 30 IN THE MORNING. I'M GONNA BE OUT WAY AHEAD OF THAT. SO TRAFFIC SIGNED AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT PITY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE QUARTER MILE RADIUS RIGHT AROUND IT. IT WILL BE OKAY. AND WE'VE GOT NEW HOMES COMING IN OVER HERE AT THIS POULTRY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO UH, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO PUT COMPLETE. COMMUNITY RETAILING THERE, BUT A MIXED USE LIKE WE'RE SEEING WORK IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT MIGHT JUST WORK THERE. OKAY? I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT WITH UNLESS YOU DO HAVE APARTMENTS THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THE COMMUNITY RETAIL NOW, AND THAT'S A FREQUENT COMPLAINT FROM DISTRICT THREE FOR YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL EVERY EVERY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE. THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT IS THE LACK OF THE LACK OF RETAIL LACK OF A GROCERY STORE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET

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IS THERE A TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND IF SO, WHAT IS THAT TIME LIMIT TWO MINUTES FOR THREE MINUTES INSIDE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF WE ASK QUESTIONS, THEY CAN CONTINUE COURSE. THANK YOU. OKAY? WE HAD SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS. MANY CARDS FOR PEOPLE TO FILL OUT CARDS. YEAH OR THERE SEEMED TO BE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. HAVEN'T FILLED UP. YEAH 10 MINUTE. BREAK CONTROL LOCAL. OKAY WE WANT TO TAKE A SMALL BREAK FOR YOUR FOR EVERYBODY TO FILL OUT A CARD. RIGHT? WITH UNDER. EXCUSE ME CHAIR. CHAIRMAN WE DO HAVE A LIST OF SPEAKERS.

OKAY WHERE? WHERE DO I FIND THE LIST? PANEL, OKAY? AH, GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY? ALRIGHT SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS IS ALEJANDRA MEDRANO. DECIDED NOT TO SPEAK, OKAY? AND YOU ARE AGAINST I'M ASSUMING. UM. HALF AND HALF ON THE FENCE. OKAY, ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON HERE WITH THE NEXT ONE WAS MAXWELL FISHER, WHICH NOW THEN WE HAVE LILLIAN MEDRANO. LIKE TO SPEAK. SHE SHE'S AGAINST, OKAY. HI UM, MY NAME IS LILLIAN MEDRANO. OH, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS LILLIAN MEDRANO. I LIVE AT 48 OH, ONE MARINA COVE. DR GARLAND, TEXAS. SEN. 5043. I AM. I WAS GOING TO GIVE MY TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE TO SPEAK FOR ME, BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM FOR MYSELF. I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN 48 TO 1 MARINA COVE FOR ABOUT SINCE 2009 AND THE CONSTRUCTION THEY'RE DOING ON THE 30 TO MAKE IT BIGGER FOR TO GO TO ROCK WALL . EVERY CONSTRUCTION, AS WE ALL KNOW IS ABOUT 10 YEARS BEHIND. UM THE CONGESTION EVEN BEFORE THE PULTE AND THIS CONSTRUCTION IS THERE'S BEEN PROPOSED. UM. IS GOING TO BRING A LOT OF CONGESTION. I HAVE ALREADY WITNESSED IT SINCE 2009. I USED TO BREATHE BECAUSE USUALLY GO TO BISHOP LYNCH HIGH SCHOOL AND I WOULD COME HOME AND AT 3 30 THE BACK AND WE'LL GO BACK ALL THE WAY BACK CONGESTION AND I WOULD SAY TO THE BOYS AND SAY I'M SO GLAD I LIVE ON THIS SIDE OF THE RELAY TRIGGERED HUBBARD INSTEAD ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER HOUR AND A HALF TO GO. REMEMBER THEIR FRIENDS, TELLING THEM HOW HARD IT WAS TO COMMUTE FROM ROCKWALL TO BISHOP LYNCH HIGH SCHOOL, UM I HAVE NOTICED EVEN BEFORE POLITY COMING OUT, PEOPLE TEND TO CUT CORNERS AND START GOING DOWN THE 30 TO GO INTO OUR ZION. THEY GO THROUGH THE, UM. THE GAS STATION . AH YEARS PAST. EVEN THE SCHOOL BUSSES WILL DO THAT. I WILL SEE THEM DO THAT AND CUT THROUGH SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AROUND THE SCHOOL BUS WILL CUT THROUGH THE GAS STATION TO AVOID TRAFFIC. UM SO I, UH SIX. UH AGAIN. HAD I KNOWN ABOUT THIS? I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE. I JUST FOUND OUT 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND THE BEST THAT I COULD DO WAS TO EXTEND BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA THAT ARE AFFECTED IN THE ZION. SHOULD KNOW WE COLLECTED. I THINK CLOSE TO 100 SIGNATURES AGAINST IN THE LOCAL AREA WITHIN HALF MILE RADIUS. UM AND I AGAIN, UM. I LIVED THERE. I SEE WHAT IT AFFECTS US A LOT. IT IS HARD TO EXPLAIN WHAT I SEE

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THEY WERE GORGEOUS TREES, AND THAT'S ALL GONE. AND NOW WE'RE LOSING MORE LAND THAT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE FOR PARK AND FOR COMMUNITY TO ENJOY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS? SORRY. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, UM MALCOLM MILAM. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MALCOLM MILHAM. I AM THE H O A PRESIDENT FOR FORCE CREEK ESTATE. SO, MR MADRID, NO. MATTER OF FACT, CAN ALL OF THE FOREST CREEK ESTATES PEOPLE STAYING UP SINCE WE'RE ALL STANDING UP REAL QUICK FOR EVERYBODY. SO, UM I'VE BEEN A PROUD RESIDENT OF GARLAND FOR 20 YEARS, ACTUALLY EVEN VOLUNTEER ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. AH WERE IN OPPOSITION. AS MISS JENNY SAID. WE TRULY DON'T NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT THERE. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS IS THE PRESSURE THAT IS GOING TO PUT ON LAKEVIEW CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL AND COUCH ELEMENTARY. SO THESE GUYS GREAT JOB. WE HAVEN'T SPOKE TO ANYONE, ACTUALLY, WHAT THEY JUST SAID. WELL, THEY SPOKE TO 20 RESIDENTS. SO YOU HAVE OVER 100 RESIDENTS WHO SAID NO AND WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS UNTIL 10 DAYS AGO. SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS. WE'RE COMING TOGETHER AS A COLLECTIVE WITHIN 10 DAYS. SAYING NO, WE TRULY DON'T NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. WE NEED HIS ADDRESS, SIR. 47 10, 4 SPRINGS COVE. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT AND DO WE HAVE A LACY LANE? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LACEY LANE.

I'LL HAVE IT. 4306 AND PHIL DR GARLAND, TEXAS. I LIVE IN THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON COMMUNITY.

THEY MET WITH SHORE'S WELLINGTON MEMBERS. AH AND I CAN RISER. BUT KEN ROGERS AND SNOT SPEAK FOR EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE COMMUNITY, UM AND HE SPOKE POSITIVELY. UH MY CONCERNS ARE MAINLY TRAFFIC AND SCHOOL SYSTEM . MY WIFE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE T, A COUCH ELEMENTARY. ALL SIX YEARS OF MY DAUGHTER WENT THERE. SHE'S IN. MIDDLE SCHOOL NOW AND BRANDENBURG. BUT. SHE SAW THE TURNOVER RATE FROM THE TEACHERS BECAUSE OF THE OVERCROWDING. AND KIDS JUST UNDER SUPPLIED AND JUST NOT MAYOR FROM LOCAL APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CANNOT DISPLAY THIS, UH REAL QUICKLY. OKAY? SO J L B. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THERE ARE GREAT DEVELOPER AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST DEPARTMENT PROJECTS BECAUSE I AM IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. AS WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM, AND, UH, BUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE. I'M NOT FOND ABOUT BECAUSE IT ONLY HAS ONE STREET ACCESS. AS YOU CAN SEE, ZION ROAD IS THE ONLY ENTERING AND EXITING DRIVE FOR 530 RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THESE COMMUNITIES RIGHT HERE. THAT IS THE MAIN ACCESS EVERY DAY. WHY NOT? WHEN I LEAVE FOR WORK, THIS IS THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON. UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE. AND THIS IS THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS NO OTHER EXIT WAY OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY UNLESS YOU ZIGZAG YOUR WAY THROUGH WATERHOUSE OVER THE RHONE AND OUT I 30 RYAN IS THE ONLY MAIN THOROUGHFARE TO GET TO 530

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OFFICE. I ON, UH, IT WILL CREATE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM. AND ADDING A STOP SIGN. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HOMEOWNERS ARE GONNA WANT BECAUSE IT'S JUST ANOTHER. STOP THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE TO GET OUT AND ONTO THE HARD WAY TO GET TO WORK OR TO GET HOME IN THE EVENING. THERE'S BEEN AH DESIRE ON BRIDGE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACCIDENTS THERE HAS TO BE ON THIS OVERPASS. ZION BRIDGE RIGHT HERE. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FLYING OVER THIS BRIDGE AND RIGHT HERE. PEOPLE COMING OFF THE HIGHWAY OR TRYING TO TURN LEFT HERE AND PEOPLE COMING NORTH ON ZION OR TRYING TO TURN THE LEFT TO GET ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD. AND IT'S A NIGHTMARE. AND NOW YOU'VE GOT, AND I'VE SEEN GEORGE BUSH FREEWAY BEING BUILT ACROSS THE LAKE. AND THEN I'VE SEEN THE TORNADO COME THROUGH AND TEAR UP A LOT, AND, UH THEN I SAW THIS GAS STATION TURN INTO A TRUCK STOP. AND NOW I TRUCKING COMPANIES DO OR TRUCKERS DO IS THEY TAKE THIS LOOP AROUND TO THE BACK SIDE AND CROSSES ION TO GET TO THE GAS? STATION. UM. WHICH IS CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM AS WELL. SO UM. MY ISSUE WAS TRAFFIC. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS THE CONSTRUCTION. THIS CONSTRUCTION HMM. OKAY WE'LL TAKE TWO YEARS AND WITH CONSTRUCTION, NOISE, DEBRIS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC LANE CLOSURES ON ZION. IT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. SO UM, I HOPE YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK QUESTIONS THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER A IS, U, YOU DO. OH, THEY SAW. THEY SO I WAS RIGHT TO COME AND SPEAK. HI.

MY NAME IS LARGER. SHARRATT FINLEY. I LIVE AT 46 21 LEMON TREE LANE. UM I WANTED TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY . ONE OF THE MY MAIN REASONS FOR NOT WANTING THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE IS THE TRAFFIC. UM THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE WAY OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. YES, EVERYONE ELSE'S STATED BUT ADDITIONALLY THE PRESSURE THAT IT PUTS ON OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, YOU KNOW, UT COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA. ADDING 381 UNITS WOULD DEFINITELY CAUSE AN ISSUE FOR US, UM IN 2017 MARCH 1ST OUR HOME CALLED FIRE. UH IT TOOK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT 22 MINUTES TO GET TO OUR HOUSE.

AND WHEN THEY DID GET THERE, THERE WAS IT WAS ONLY AN AMBULANCE. IT TOOK THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT. IN ADDITION OF 15 MINUTES TO GET TO OUR HOUSE, WHICH WAS FULLY ENGULFED AT THAT TIME. ADDING WE WERE ADDING A WHOLE NEW SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY WERE ADDING TO BRAND NEW APARTMENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS 30. ADDING 381 ADDITIONAL UNITS WITH JUST CAUSE IN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF PRESSURE ON OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES. AH IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DEVELOPER STATED THAT IF THERE WAS COMMUNITY RETAIL, THERE WOULDN'T BE A POTENTIAL FOR US TO HAVE UM APART WHICH PART OF THE AREAS ZONED FOR PARK OR AGRICULTURE, BUT WE'VE WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS. NORTH DALLAS RICHARDSON, WHERE RETAIL HAS ADDED PARK COMMUNITIES FOR THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES WHEN THEY WERE BUILT. UM. WE THE CLOSEST PARK IS THAT COUCH ELEMENTARY CLOSEST WALKING TRAIL IS AT THE UM, GREEN BELT OFF OF DUCK CREEK. WE NEED COMMUNITY IMMUNITIES AND

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COMING HOME FROM WORK. YOU THINK THAT'S NOT LONG BUT DO THAT EVERY DAY. MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

IT'S HORRIBLE. THERE'S ONE LANE IN AND ONE LAYING OUT WITH A CENTER TURNING LANE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE SOMETIMES NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRUCKING DOING IN. IT'S HORRIBLE AND HE SPOKE ABOUT TREES BEING A BUFFER. WHAT ABOUT THE FALL WINTER MONTHS? THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IN OUR HOUSES, I LIVE WITHIN THE FOUR HUNDREDS. FOOT RADIUS. AND I WAS ONE OF THE LAST ONES TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING. THEY SPOKE TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. AS FAR AS IMMEDIATE. WHICH WHICH IS THE ONLY ONES THEY NOTIFIED AS A FEW PEOPLE. UM. MS JAMES SPOKE ABOUT OR NOT, MISS JAMES. SORRY. WE'VE ALREADY WE'RE ALREADY COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. AND NOW THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THEM ESSENTIALLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I MEAN, I'M NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. SO FORGIVE ME ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS FUNCTION WITH THE TRAFFIC. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AS IT IS NOW, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD 1000 PLUS COMMUTERS INTO THAT AREA A DAY. BECAUSE THESE COMMUTERS COME AND GO EVERY MORNING EVERY AFTERNOON. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUNCTION AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT? I JUST I DON'T SEE IT SO AGAIN.

THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN. BECAUSE I DO COMMUTE A LOT. UH HUH. ANDE CONSIDERED HERE. SO LIKE I SAID, UM, NOT A GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER. I'M A LITTLE ANXIOUS. SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE HE SAID THAT THERE WAS FOUR LANES IN FOR LATER. IT'S NOT. IT'S ONE IN ONE OUT. AND WE HAVE NO OTHER ACCESS AND THEY DIDN'T PROPOSE ANY OTHER WAY FOR US FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THE APARTMENTS. THERE IS SERVICE ROAD THERE THERE IS, THEY COULD ACCESS THE BACKSIDE EVERYONE GEORGE BUSH SERVICE ROAD. THEY DIDN'T THEY JUST WANT TO PUT IT ALL IN. AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT A STOP SIGN. STOP SIGN WOULD DO NOTHING BUT 100 EVEN MORE BECAUSE THEN ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP WHEN THERE'S ZERO FLOW. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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YES SIR. OKAY I COULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT WAS A COMMUNITY THAT HAD MORE THAN ONE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. BUT THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO DRASTICALLY AFFECT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S REALLY TAKING CONSIDERATION INTO THAT. SO AGAIN. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. VOICE IN YOUR THOUGHTS, RECOMMENDATIONS? WHAT TIME ARE YOU LEAVING AND COMING BACK? I DO SERVICE WORK AIR CONDITIONING SERVICE, SO I'M ALWAYS COMING AND GOING, BUT MY MAIN IS IN THE MORNING BETWEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT, AND THE AFTERNOON BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX AND ADDING 1000 PLUS COMMUTERS COMMUTERS IN THAT EVEN WITH THE STOP SIGN. YEAH IT WOULD HELP THE ONES THAT ARE A LITTLE TOO AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS.

IT'LL SLOW THEM DOWN, BUT THAT'S GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT HINDER TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE EVEN MORE. SO I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RONALD FORD. GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE BIT HORSE. SO FORGIVE ME LITTLE BIT . 47 33 4 SPRINGS COVE. AND I AM AT THIS POINT, PRESIDENT OF THE HIGH COURT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS AT ALL. WE WERE NOT CONTACTED BY THE DEVELOPING COMPANY IN ANY WAY THAT I AM AWARE OF, UM LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I'M REALLY CONCERNED MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE. UM. I TRAVEL INTO AND OUT OF THERE AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE. WE BUILT THIS HOUSE IN 2005, AND WE'VE WATCHED TRAFFIC AT THIS END OF CARLIN JUST YOU GOT BAD AND IT'S GETTING WORSE EVERY DAY. UM WHEN YOU EXIT HE'S BOUND INTERSTATE 30. TO GO TO ZION ROAD, YOU HAVE TO EXIT IMMEDIATELY CROSSED THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC. COME TO A QUICK HALT BECAUSE THERE'S TRAFFIC BACKED UP ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD ALMOST ALL DAY LONG BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET ON TO ZION FROM THE LITTLE RAMP THAT GOES FROM THE FRONT OF ROAD TO ZION. THEY CAN'T GET ON THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH CROFT CROSS TRAFFIC WE'VE GOT NO , WE'VE GOT SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC THAT'S TRYING TO GET TO THEIR HOMES. THAT ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR AREA. BUT ZION ROAD, WHICH T INTERSECTS DOWN THERE, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BOB TOWN. THAT WHOLE AREA IS EXPLODING WITH HOMES. I THINK THAT PART OF THE GOOD PART OF SUNNYVALE. IT ALL HAS TO GET TO THE FREEWAY ON ZION ROAD IN THE MORNINGS AND THE EVENINGS, THERE'S TRAFFIC BACKED UP IN TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, NOT TO MENTION THE OBVIOUS AND THE FREEWAY ITSELF. SO WE CAN'T I DON'T THINK I THINK PUTTING THIS PROJECT IN HERE WOULD BE OVERLOAD EVEN WORSE THAN IT ALREADY IS. NOW EMERGENCY SERVICES. SAME THING, UH, I SEE A STATION FOUR IN OUR AREA A LOT BECAUSE STATION FIVE IS ALWAYS ROLLING ON SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, UM I UNDERSTAND THAT STATION FIVE PATROLS THE FREEWAY NOW OUT TOWARD TOWARD DEL ROCK. I KNOW DALLAS PATROLS OUT AT DOW ROCK AREA, BUT WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET HERE AND THE MORE YOU BURDEN THE SYSTEM WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOING TO HURT THIS PULTE PROJECT OVER HERE IS KIND OF KIND OF GOOD BECAUSE AT LEAST NOW WE KNOW THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE. THIS IF IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, I THINK A LOT OF OUR VIEWS MAY BE DIFFERENT. OF COURSE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE HEAVY AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE BUT MYSELF, AND I KNOW A GREAT NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? MHM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEATRICE FOR IT. SHE'S NOT

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MY NAME IS CARL POWER. I LIVED AT 46 33 LEMON TREE LANE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OF MR CARON SAID. YOU SENT OUT HOW MANY NOTICES OF NOTIFICATION SIX CORRECT. YES SIR. 56 56. GOING FROM YOU'RE A MAP HERE. THAT I GOT FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE APPARENTLY I'M ABOUT 20 FT OUTSIDE THE AREA. LOOKING AT THIS MAP. THERE ARE ONLY 30 HOMES. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE YOU SENT THE OTHER 26 NOTICES TO THEY WENT TO BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME HERE. WHICH ACCORDING TO DEVELOPERS MAP IS ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE MAP. I SEE NO HOMES THERE. THAT'S ALL IN THE CONSTRUCTION. BUT YET THEIR ADDRESSES ARE ALL LISTED ON HERE. SO LIKE THAT I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON LEMON TREE LANE. SO I GOT NO NOTIONAL. I GOT BACK INTO TOWN LAST WEEK.

BUT LIKE THE OTHER HAVE SAID ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. IT IS A ONE LANE ROAD NORTH AND SOUTH. AND GETTING IN AND OUT IS A REAL BEAR IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON. SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A TRAFFIC STUDY. REALLY DONE ON THIS AREA. BEFORE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN.

AND MR ROSE. I HEARD YOU ASK COMMENT. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. I'M BACK TO 30 PEOPLE. 30 HOMES THAT WAS ALWAYS NOTIFIED. ACCORDING TO YOUR NOTIFICATION MAP. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS THIS ONE MOMENT? YES SIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MR CHAIRMAN. SO THE OTHER THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. OF COURSE WITHIN THAT ENTIRE 400 FT THAT GOES IN ALL DIRECTIONS. EAST WEST SOUTH AS WELL. SO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ONES WE SENT AS WELL TO THE CITY OF GARLAND TO GARLAND S. D. AND WE ALSO TRY TO CAPTURE RENTERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. IF THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE OWNERSHIP ADDRESS AND THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS, WE TRY TO CAPTURE THOSE AS WELL. SO THAT'S THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL MEMBER. YES, SIR, BECAUSE IF YOU SEND OUT THE ADDRESSES HERE AND GOLDEN GATE LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE NOT HOMES. THOSE ARE JUST BACON PIECES OF LAND THERE. DIVIDED THEY JUST STARTED BUILDING. THEY'VE GOT FOUR UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE, BUT THAT'S IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. HOLD ON. JUST ONE MOMENT. WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER PARIS MR CHAIRMAN IS NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION FROM THE FOR THE GENTLEMAN. BUT MAYBE, AND THIS MAY NEED TO BE FOR DISCUSSION TIME BUT THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE.

AND FOR BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH, AND I TOTALLY HAVE DRIVEN DRIVEN THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. I'VE DRIVEN ZION ROAD. AH FROM 30 COMING UP AND THEN EVEN CUTTING ACROSS THE WATER HOUSE, SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. UM MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY MORE FEEDBACK? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD BE DONE THIS EVENING AND IN TIME FOR DISCUSSION FOR TRANSPORTATION TO MAYBE WEIGH IN MORE OR YOU KNOW AT THIS TIME, BUT THERE WAS A T I A DONE IS JUST THAT GIVEN NOW YOU'RE HEARING MORE OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS THAT MAYBE SOME MORE FEEDBACK CAN BE PROVIDED FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE IS THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE. WE MAY NEED TO HOLD IT FOR DISCUSSION LATER. I'M NOT SURE I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HERE IS THAT THE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT AND THAT BUT COUNCIL HAS THE PURVIEW TO LOOK AT ANYTHING. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. A DAVID CAMPBELL.

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IT'S ON 18 ACRES, AND IT'S OVER 90 HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT. NONE OF THOSE HAVE BEEN BUILT YET AND SO IF THAT'S 500, SOME ODD FEED. TO THE WEST THAT I THINK YOU ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT CLOSER BECAUSE IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ZION ROAD. AND THAT'S GOING TO ADD A WHOLE LOT MORE TRAFFIC TO THE AREA THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOW BREAKING GROUND. THEY'VE DONE ALL THEIR HOMEWORK, AND THEY BOUGHT THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES. UM LAND THERE AND THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT AND DOING A GOOD JOB WITH IT. BUT WE WOULD WE KNOW THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE TAX REVENUE AND HAVE IT COMING IN AND $1.8 MILLION.

SOUNDS LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT AH I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN DEVELOP THIS AND WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE SO CONGESTED RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA. I THINK EACH ONE OF THE CITIZENS HERE TONIGHT WHO TALKED ABOUT THAT? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND ONE MORE TIME, CATHY JENNINGS SAID. THERE WAS 10 PROPERTIES WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS 2384. UH APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA. GOD THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OVERLOAD TO ME, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 381. IS THAT CORRECT? SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. OH, NAME AND ADDRESS THAT DID YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS? MY ADDRESS WAS 46 25 LEMON TREE. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

AH, LET'S SEE. OUR NEXT IS CHRISTIE. TURN THE SPEED. HI MY NAME IS CHRISTY. TURNIP SEED. I LIVE AT 44 OH FIVE. SCENIC CIRCLE. GARLAND TEXAS 75043. I'M AN EDUCATOR. AND I HAVE SEEN AT COUCH ELEMENTARY. THE OVERLOAD OF STUDENTS. THE NEIGHBORS I HAVE THAT ARE TEACHERS THAT TEACH IN THAT SCHOOL HAVE QUIT BECAUSE IT IS SO OVERLOADED. THE DISTRICT CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. LAKEVIEW CENTENNIAL HAS BECOME ONE OF THE LARGEST GARLAND SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO CHARGE $3000 A MONTH. FOR THE TOWN HOMES. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T

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IT'S A TOWN HOME, AND IT'S SPACING OF ONE OF THE BUSIEST STREETS, ONE OF THE MOST CROWDED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN WHEN YOU CAN GO TWO BLOCKS OVER AND GET AN APARTMENT OR A REAL HOME. FOR HALF THE COST. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER DANNY FAULKNER SITUATION WHEN THESE HOMES DO NOT SELL OR RENT YOUR GOING TO RENT THEM. IF THEY DON'T RENT, THEY'RE GOING TO SIT VACANT. THEN WHAT HAPPENS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD? WE'VE BECOME A SECTION EIGHT HOUSING AGAIN. THAT'S MY BIGGEST FEAR. I'VE WORKED IN THE DISTRICT WHERE I DEALT WITH CHILDREN WHO DID NOT HAVE HOMES TO GO HOME TO. AND NOW I TEACH IN A DISTRICT WHERE THE AVERAGE HOME IS A MILLION DOLLARS. SO I'VE SEEN IT ALL. BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THOSE HOUSES AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS SIT WHEN THOSE HOUSES DID NOT SELL OR THOSE APARTMENTS DID NOT RENT AND THEY BECOME AN EYESORE THAT BECOME DRUG HOUSES. THEY BECOME JUST A PILLAR OF BAD ON THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THESE $3000 TOWN HOMES AND HE'S 1800 $100 APARTMENTS. DON'T RENT. BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO COME IN THERE AND PAY THAT KIND OF PRICE THAT HAS ANY BRAIN AT ALL. IT'S JUST NOT A VALUE. IT'S JUST I MEAN, YOU CAN DECORATE IT ALL YOU WANT TO, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND THE COURT ORDER TO COME IN AND OUT OF I 30 AND 1 90 IS A NIGHTMARE. AND JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT COMING OFF OF EASTBOUND ARE 30 ON DESIGN AND TURNING. I CAN COUNT ON YOUR HANDS AND MIND HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE SEEN AND 11 YEARS . IT'S RIDICULOUS. SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE KILLED THERE. SO GOING ACROSS THE BRIDGE IN THE MORNING TO GO TO WORK. I SIT AT THAT STOP SIGN, SO STOP SIGN IS NOTHING THAT'S NOTHING MORE THAN MORE TIME FOR ME TO HAVE TO SIT THERE GET MORE ANGRY THAT THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T STOP THIS WAY. BUT IT SURE STOPS THIS ONE WAY. SO IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME THING DOWN HERE. SO WE'RE JUST BUILDING MORE OF A TRAFFIC JAM AND MORE OF AN EYESORE IS GOING TO TURN. IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S FIRST BUILT. BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN FIVE YEARS WHEN THEY DON'T RENT? THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUILDERS GONNA LOSE MONEY TO DEVELOPING COMPANIES LOSING MONEY. THEY'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. SECTION EIGHT. IT WILL GET THEM BUILT. WE'LL GET PEOPLE IN THERE. $50 A MONTH IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.

I'M JUST SAYING. DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. QUESTIONS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDA FLOWERS. SHE DOESN'T KNOW SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE OKAY. SHE SAID IT ALL. WE HAVE A JOHN TURNIP SEED, TOO. OKAY? AND TREND. THEN. I'M A MASTER. I'VE LEARNED FROM OUR CHAIRMAN, HOW TO PUT YOUR NAMES SO I'M JUST CONTINUING THE TRADITION. I APOLOGIZE. UM. KUANG, THEN. UH EMMA JENNINGS. OKAY. MARY COCOA.

ALL RIGHT. COME ON DOWN. I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR. I AM THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY. I HOPE YOU'LL AFFORD ME A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN YOU HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE SINCE I'VE LIVED OUT THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS OR A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK I REALIZE ABOUT THE AREA THAT MAYBE SOME OF YOU DON'T REALIZE FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT MR SWISHER SAID THAT POND RISE UP. I'VE LIVED OUT THERE 40 YEARS AND THAT POND HAS NEVER DRIED UP. YEAH THAT IS A SIX ACRE TANK , AND IT HAS ALWAYS HAD FISH AND IT IS ALWAYS HAD WATER. WHEN THE DROUGHT CAME IN 2010 WHENEVER IT WAS, IT WAS THE LOWEST I'VE EVER SEEN, BUT IT IS ALWAYS

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I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. IT'S A PAIN. IT'S A PAINT. THEY HAVE NOT DONE THE INTERCHANGE LIKE THEY DID AT BOB TOWN. AND IT DOES NEED A NEW INTERCHANGE. BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE BEYOND OUR PROPERTY. YOU CAN GET OFF AT BOB TOWNE ROAD. YOU CAN GO DOWN WATERHOUSE. YOU CAN AVOID THAT INTERCHANGE IT SIGN WROTE. WHERE YES, YOU DO HAVE TO WAIT. BUT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING SOUTH INTO GARLAND AND IN THE SUNNYVALE AND COMING OUT OF THERE THAT CAN CHEST THAT ENERGY CHANGE. SO YOU CAN GO DOWN WATERHOUSE. YOU CAN GO TO BOB TOWN. GET CATCH A LIGHT, GOTTA WATERHOUSE AND THE GOLD AND THEN GO NORTH. IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, BUT IT EASES PROBLEMS. UM. I DOUBT RETAIL WOULD BUILD THEIR AT BOB TOWN AND INTERSTATE 30. THERE HAS BEEN A ROW OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN OCCUPANT. A YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS. IT'S THAT VACANT. UM. JBL WAS NOT THE HIGHEST BID THAT WE GOT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT WAS THE BUILDER WHO WE THOUGHT FITTED THE BEST WHO WOULD HONOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MY HUSBAND WAS RAISED ON THEY THEY INTENDED ON KEEPING THE POND THEY WANTED TO BUFFER. THEY WANTED TO INTEGRATE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WE CHOSE THEM OVER OTHER BUILDERS. SORRY I HAD TO WRITE NOTES DOWN ON MY ON MY RECEIPT. ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND I CAME TO YOU AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR HOUSE AND WE WANTED TO BUILD GARLAND HAD OTHER IDEAS FOR OUR PROPERTY . YOU TOLD US WE COULD NOT RAISE OUR HOUSE AND BUILD A NEW HOUSE. BECAUSE YOU WANTED IT TO BE DEVELOPED. AND SO WE HONORED YOUR REQUEST. WE HAVE LIVED IN A SMALL HOME. ALL THESE YEARS. AND NOW YOU ARE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY AND ORDER. TO INCREASE THE INCOME AND THE TAXES THAT WILL HELP ALL OF GARLAND IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS PROJECT. THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO SIT THERE.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S GOING TO COME ALONG. AND TRY AND DEVELOP IT. SO WHAT'S UP TO YOU? OH MARY COAKLEY'S FIVE OH, 26 ON ROAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND SPEAKING TO US QUESTIONS. COME ON, GUYS. COME ON. YOU'VE ASKED EVERYBODY ELSE. DON'T YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME? COME ON, ASK ME A QUESTION ANYTHING. OKAY? THANK YOU. YOU GOT A QUESTION? THANK YOU. HAD THIS ON THE MARKET.

WE'VE NEVER HAD IT ON THE MARKET , SO THEY APPROACHED YOU TO. WE HAD BEEN WE KEPT GETTING FROM.

WE HAVE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS. WE LIVED THROUGH THE DANNY FAULKNER . SO WE KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ALL LIKE. WE LIVED WITH THE APARTMENTS NEXT DOOR. AND THEN WHEN THE GEORGE BUSH CAME THROUGH, WE SAW THOSE APARTMENTS COME DOWN, BUT WE HAVE NEVER PUT THE PROPERTY ON THE MARKET. WE

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THERE IS VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THE NORTH. BUT THERE IS A TON OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THE SOUTH. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED THERE. 40 YEARS. I'VE NEVER SEEN A WRECK THERE. I'M SURE THERE ARE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A REALLY IT'S NOT A GREAT WAY. LOT OF TIMES. I'LL GO TO BOB TOWN AND GO DOWN WATERHOUSE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A SAFER WAY TO GO. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DO? WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER ROBIN. OH I'D LIKE THE POND FILLED IN. AND NOW IT MIGHT. MY BROTHER IN LAW WORKS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IT IS NO LONGER YOU CAN FILL THOSE PONDS IN. IT'S NOT A FLY AWAY. I DON'T THINK I WANT YOUR MOSQUITO PROBLEMS. NO, ACTUALLY, THERE AREN'T ANY. IT'S REALLY VERY IT'S VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE AND NO SNAKES. GO FIGURE. WELL, THERE YOU GO. GET THE CAR. PROBABLY EVERYBODY HERE GETS THEM. IF YOU LIVE IN GARLAND LITTLE GET A LITTLE POSTCARDS. I DON'T THINK THEY OFFER ME AS MUCH AS IT MIGHT HAVE MY LITTLE HOUSE. UM CAN YOU TELL US? WHAT AND IF YOU CAN'T THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. BUT WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WERE OR THE POTENTIAL OFFERINGS THAT YOU TURNED DOWN THE DEVELOPMENTS.

BASICALLY WE'RE MULTI FAMILY AND I THINK BASICALLY THEY WERE MULTI FAMILY BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT HOUSES WOULD NOT SELL UNDER THAT FLYWAY UNLESS YOU LIVE THERE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FLYWAY LOOKS LIKE. IT WAS. IT WAS VERY DISTURBING WHEN IT FIRST CAME IN. SO IT'S ALWAYS MULTI HOUSE AND THERE WAS NOBODY THAT CAME IN AND ASKED TO BUILD. A BUSINESS. THERE WAS. I THINK PULTE HOMES DID COME IN AND OFFERED MAYBE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY. BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS ALL MULTIFAMILY, AND I THINK BASICALLY IT IS. IT'S BECAUSE IT IS IT BUTTS UP TO A FREEWAY ON T SIDES. AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HAVEN'T BOUGHT THEIR FIRST HOUSE SHED.

AND. UNLIKE THE LADY WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE KIDS ARE GETTING ALL THIS MONEY, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY SOME YOUNGER PEOPLE, AND THEY DO HAVE JOBS. MY NEPHEW WENT TO A HALF A YEAR OF COLLEGE, AND HE MAKES 100 AND $50,000 DOING I T GAMING IN AUSTIN. SO THEY'RE MAKING THAT KIND OF MONEY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO LIVE IN. SO. ANYBODY ELSE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE THE WAY I WAS A SCHOOLTEACHER IN GARLAND TO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE IN THAT REGARD, AND I WILL ASK, AND I DO THINK AS YOU TALK ABOUT ZION AND THE INTERCHANGE. I 30 IS ALL THE INTERCHANGES ARE GOING TO BE REDONE WHEN WE BRING. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING STAFF UP LATER, I'LL ASK MR LUCKY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE KIND OF INTERCHANGES LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE MAKING A NEW INTERCHANGE THERE, BECAUSE BECAUSE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 30, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO HUGE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN. THERE'S MORE GOING IN IN SUNNYVALE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT ROAD BIGGER. IT'S PROBABLY 10 YEARS AWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, ROADS DO NEED TO BE INCREASED, AND YOU'D HAVE MORE MONEY TO DO THE ROADS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

NO. OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE. COME HERE. FISHER DALTON. AND JUST TO REINFORCE WHAT COMMISSIONER

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ANY CROSS STREET. SO THEIR PLAN IS FOR IT TO GO OVER ZION. IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS. ALSO WANT IT TO GO OVER BASS PRO. AND TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN BASS PRO FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT, AND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN A VERY LONG CONVERSATION WITH A FEW PEOPLE. AND, OF COURSE, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OVER THE LIKE IS SERVICE ROADS, AND THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE ALL THE WAY I BELIEVE TO GREENVILLE. UH IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL THERE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO RELIEVE TRACK OF IT. BUT BUILDING THE SERVICE ROADS OVER THE LAKE. YOU KNOW THE WHOLE SITUATION IS, IS THAT TEXAS WANTS MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE, AND THEY WANT MORE INDUSTRY TO MOVE HERE, AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE HOUSING IN ORDER TO PUT THESE PEOPLE IN IT AND IT AND I HAVE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC, BUILD AND BUILD AND BUILD. AND I KNOW WHAT THAT INTERSTATE IS LIKE, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT.

YOU CANNOT WE WOULD HAVE TRIED. WE TRIED TO. I MEAN, THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO STOP THE GEORGE BUSH AND I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT TRIED. WE NEVER TRIED WHEN YOU GOT WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE. YOU CAN'T FIGHT IT. AND SO THESE THINGS ARE JUST OCCURRING . YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T STOP IT. AND THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR GARLAND. I'M NOT SURE THE NEIGHBORS THINK THAT BUT I BELIEVE IT REALLY IS. MR YES, I AM GETTING PAID FOR IT. YES THE YEAR, RIGHT? I AM GOING TOFIT. M IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH MOVING AWAY.

HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR. TRY NOT TO HECKLE THE SPEAKERS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. CAN WE TAKE A BRIEF RECESS? FOR A FEW MINUTES. RESTROOM BREAK. WELL TERESA'S OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A VIDEO. I DON'T MIND 30 THAT I CAN'T SEE IT TO SEE HOW THE ROSES BUT. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE GALLERY WILL BE FROM THE PODIUM THAT ARE NOT SPEAKING. ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SAYING NO. SO EVERYBODY'S SO THEY'RE JUST NOT. THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT THEY JUST SAID NO. SOMEONE ELSE I READ SAID NO. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. TO SPEAK. AND THEN YES, OF COURSE. RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.. HELLO WE'RE BACK. OKAY WE'VE GOT MORE TESTIMONY TO GET THROUGH TONIGHT. WE HAVE. NEXT WE HAVE MR JEFF PATTON. I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE KIM COCKLES.

HMM. GOOD EVENING.■ MY NAME IS KIM CO COLAS AND I LIVE AT FIVE. OH 26 ZION, WHICH IS THAT ADDRESS? AND, UM MY GRANDFATHER BOUGHT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND AROUND 1950. AND UH AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY SINCE I WAS SIX OR SEVEN YEARS OLD WHEN HE FIRST BUILT THE HOUSE OUT THERE. AND I HAVE LIVED OUT THERE SINCE ABOUT 1982, SO I'VE LIVED OUT THERE FOR 40 YEARS. SO I KNOW THE PROPERTY. VERY WELL. I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL. I KNOW THE TRAFFIC SITUATION VERY WELL. AND THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THE TRAFFIC AND I TOTALLY GET THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE DEAL IS. MY AND I'M 70 YEARS OLD. MY SISTER IS 67 YEARS OLD. IT'S TIME FOR OUR FAMILY TO RELINQUISH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT IS GOING TO GET SOLD TO SOMEBODY. AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE EVER WE NEVER PUT IT ON THE MARKET. BUT WHEN THIS MARKET STARTED HEATING UP, WE STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS. AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTED TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WANTED IT FOR MULTIFAMILY. NOBODY EVER CALLED. TO TRY TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS CALL IT. NOBODY EVER TRIED TO

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE NICOLE DUNCAN.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NICOLE DUNCAN. I LIVE AT 4813 MARINA COVE RIGHT ON THE STREET DIRECTLY BEHIND THE LAKE. I WILL SAY THAT COMING OUT OF COLLEGE. MY VERY FIRST APARTMENT OUT OF COLLEGE WAS IN GARLAND RIGHT ON , I 30 THERE AND MY VERY FIRST HOME THAT I EVER BOUGHT WAS IN GARLAND AT, UM UH, SUBDIVISION LIKE, NOT TOO FAR RIGHT OFF OF ZION LANE ON THE OTHER SIDE OVER THERE AND THEN WHEN WE UPGRADED A FEW YEARS LATER, WE STARTED DEVELOPMENT FOR COLEMAN HOMES AND COLEMAN HOMES WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BOUGHT THERE. THERE WAS A POCKET OF LAND THERE, AND THEY PROMISED A BUNCH OF THINGS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY PROMISED US. WAS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PARK BUILT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE . IN THAT PARCEL OF LAND. THERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, NUKE CHILL. YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING CHILDREN. AND NOW I HAVE THREE

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WE DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THAT STUFF BECAUSE THAT BRINGS VAGRANTS AND CRIME. OUR LITTLE POCKET OF THE WORLD HERE IS THE LOWEST CRIME RATE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT THE STATS. I LOOK AT THE STATS WEEKLY AREA THAT LITTLE PRECINCT ZERO CLIMATE ZERO CRIME REPORTED SINCE MARCH, BUT YOU GOT TO REPORT A CRIME IN ORDER FOR IT TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHY THESE PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD HERE. THAT'S WHY THESE PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE IN HERE BECAUSE THEY WANT A LOW CRIME AREA THAT HAS LITTLE IN LITTLE OUT. YOU THINK THE TRAFFIC'S BAD ALONGS? I'M GOING DOING NORTH? TRY GOING SOUTH. YOU'LL SIT THERE. TRANSFER 15 MINUTES. ONCE YOU GET PAST 30, YOU'RE SITTING FROM 15 MINUTES ON THAT LITTLE ONE LANE STRIP TRYING TO GO LEFT TO GO DOWN COLLINS ROAD. THAT'S TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THIS WAY. NOW THERE IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE THAT THESE PEOPLE IN THESE PULTE HOMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE USING ZION ROAD. THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING WELLINGTON. IT'S A 19 LITTLE TORN UP STRIP THAT THE TRUCKS ABUSED AND DEMOLISHED BUT IT COMES IN RIGHT OFF 30. THAT'S WHERE I GO HOME. I DON'T EVEN I DON'T EVEN GET ON ZION. DON'T EVEN GO DOWN. BOB TOWN I GET ON WELLINGTON. IT'S A SHORT LITTLE JAG INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THEY WIDEN THAT PAVED THAT FIX IT. THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO USE. ALSO YOU

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THERE'S NICE. THERE ARE GOING TO BUILD A POOL THERE. I MEAN, I FOUNTAIN THERE, SO IT'LL KEEP IT CIRCULATED AND KEEP THE RODENTS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF AND THE MICROBES. WHATEVER OUT, I'M SURE THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS PROBABLY THE BEST ALTERNATIVE THAT WE'VE SEEN. I MEAN, DO YOU WANT AN AUTOZONE THERE? NO THAT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE OUT THERE MESSING WITH THEIR CARS. DO YOU WANT TO CHURCH? JUST CHICKEN? NO. THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE THROWING TRASH. YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT WHAT PERMANENT IRON MENTAL STANDPOINT HAPPENS. LOOK AT THE JACKET BOX ON THE CORNER OF BOB TOWN AND 30 ALL THE TRASH THAT COMES FROM THAT ONE LITTLE PLACE FILLS UP OUR CREEK AND I HAVE TO CLEAN THAT CREEK BED ALONG WITH OUR OTHER RELATIVES AND NATIVES, NEIGHBORS. EVERYBODY IN THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANS UP THE CREEK. THIS RIGHT HERE IS NOT GOING TO BUILD. IT'S NOT GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF GARBAGE LIKE THE JACK IN THE BOX BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THROWING THEIR STUFF OUT INSTEAD OF USING THE TRASH CAN. IT'S A IT'S A CONTAINED COMMUNITY. I'M JUST SAYING, GIVEN THE ALTERNATIVES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET BEHIND. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT, AS WERE THE 20 OR SO PEOPLE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON THAT WERE THERE AT THE MEETING WHEN THEY ROLLED IT OUT TO US, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM, SHOWING IT TO US AND GIVING US THEIR THEIR OPINIONS AND TELLING US HOW THEY PLAN TO ROLL IT OUT. WE'RE IN FAVOR OF IT ALL 20 OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE THAT NIGHT WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL 329 PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE IN THE SHORE'S OF WELLINGTON. BUT I CAN SPEAK FOR THOSE OF US THAT WERE THERE, AND I WILL BRING THEM ALL HERE LIKE THEY BROUGHT ALL THEIR FRIENDS FROM DOWN THE STREET. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WOULD FILL UP HALF THIS ROOM. WE'RE HERE SO IT'S AN EVEN BREAK SUMMER AGAINST SUMMER FOUR. I'M FOUR BECAUSE THERE COULD BE WORSE ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY PUT THEIR I'M LIKE I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OH, 30. 41 30 CARRINGTON DRIVE. SHORTER THAN WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHOWN GEORGE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. THE CONCERNS I HAVE HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. TALK SPOKEN ABOUT BY PEOPLE WHO WENT AHEAD OF ME. BUT I STILL WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND CAST MY OPINION. UM PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY. SOUNDS LIKE A DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE FOR US LIKE IF WE HAVE TO GO TO A WALKING TRAIL. WE HAVE TO GO TO EITHER DUCK CREEK OR SOMEPLACE IN THE MOSQUITOES AND EVIL. WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR DOG TO A DOG PARK RATHER JUST THE CLOSEST UM THERE'S NO PUBLIC TENNIS COURTS THAT I'M I AM A VERY OFTEN, GARLAND. UM SO SOME KIND OF PUBLIC AMENITIES WOULD BE REALLY NICE. TO HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, THANK YOU AND I DID YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS ? I DON'T THINK I DID IT FOR 7 TO 9. PARADISE COVE GARLAND 75043. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT. SPEAKER IS SHINE, GEORGE. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO SAME THING CAST MY VOTE AS AGAINST THE PROPERTY COMING IN, AND ONE OF THE THINGS DURING THE PRESENTATION THAT CAME TO MY MIND AS AN EXAMPLE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER FAMILIAR WITH THE LATE COLONY OF THE BEST POINT HAHAHA IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THIS TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT RECENTLY. IT'S RUN DOWN. LIKE I DON'T WANT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. TO BE LIKE THAT AND BE CLOSE TO OUR COMMUNITY WHERE IT AFFECTS OUR PROPERTY VALUES OR INCREASED CRIME, OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THAT BRINGING SECTION EIGHT APARTMENTS IN THERE, SO LIKE I SAID, JUST HEAR SOME AGAINST IT AS WELL. AND MY ADDRESS IS 480 TO MARINA COVE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LOSE ZAVALA.

HELLO MY NAME IS LOU ZAVALA. I LIVE AT 48 OH, TWO PARADISE COVE. I AM ACTUALLY AT THE UM HIGH POINT OF STATES. I DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOTICE. I GUESS. ACCORDING TO THE RADIOS, I DON'T NEED TO RECEIVE A NOTICE BECAUSE THE RADIUS IS VERY, VERY SMALL. HOWEVER MY CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC FLOW TO THE SAFETY AS WELL AND BRINGING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. UM, INTO THIS AREA. I'M

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THERE'S ALWAYS OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS. I GO TO WHAT IS IT? UH, THE REPUBLIC. YOU SEE, OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS, THE OUTSIDE STORAGE ON THE BALCONIES SO ALL THAT IT'S AN EYESORE. AND SO WE'VE GOT THIS TRAFFIC. THAT'S VERY IT'S CONGESTED. YOU'RE GONNA COST MORE CONGESTION THERE. AND SO I'M VERY CONCERNED. I HAVE KIDS, THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT COME WITH IT TO YOU BRING APARTMENT COMPLEXES. YOU BRING THE CRIME UP. ALSO SO AGAIN, I WANT YOU GUYS TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. UM I'M A HOMEOWNER. I'M NOT A RUNNER. AND SO I LOVE WHERE I LIVE. BEEN THERE FOR NINE YEARS. AND SO I'VE ONLY HAD ONE INCIDENT THAT'S HAPPENED AND IT WAS JUST BASICALLY VISITORS THAT WERE VISITING OTHER PEOPLE. SO IF YOU BRING THESE APARTMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE VISITORS COMING AND GOING AND THEN THE BUFFER. THE BUFFER IS WHAT GREENERY WHEN IT'S WINTER TIME YOU COULD SEE RIGHT THROUGH. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM COMING OVER, SO I'M AGAINST IT. I'M SURE MY NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST IT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. WE HAVE A QUESTION, JUST LIKE SO I'M SORRY, CHUCKLED WHEN YOU YOU WERE TALKING BUT JUST HAD SOMETHING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I LIVE IN A NICE, QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. HOUSES HAVE BEEN SELLING AND SELLING AND SELLING AND BEING PURCHASED BY INSTITUTIONS. THREE BEDROOM HOUSE NOW HAS FIVE CARS WITH THE TWO CAR GARAGE. SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING ON ALL OVER THE CITY OF GARLAND ALL OVER THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S HAPPENING TODAY. I UNDERSTAND IT'S HAPPENING TODAY. BUT WHY NOT? STOP IT NOW? I MEAN, I'M IN A I'M IN A SECLUDED AREA RIGHT NOW AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR MORE TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH, AND ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS PUT TO STOP SIGNS THERE AND THEN THE ENTRANCE THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT OFF OF ZION. I NEED YOU GUYS NEED TO RECONSIDER THIS. I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S NOT.

I'M NOT FOR IT. I QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS. SORRY, MA'AM. I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. LIKE MANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU VOICED CONCERNS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION AND THE BACKLOG. HERE'S HERE'S MY HYPOTHETICAL IF SOMEHOW THE CITY

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IT'S EVERYBODY'S. EVERYBODY HAS TO PICK UP THEIR OWN DOG FECES. THE DUMPSTERS ARE OVERFLOWING A LOT OF THE TIMES THEY HAVE PICKUPS TWO TIMES OUT OF THE WEEK. SO YOU SEE YOU DRIVE BY THESE APARTMENTS AND THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS ARE AN EYESORE AND SO AGAIN, YOU GUYS SAID YOU WROTE BY THEIR YOU DROVE BY THERE. WHAT TIME DID YOU DRIVE BY THERE? DID YOU DRIVE BY THERE DURING YOUR BUSINESS HOURS, OR DID YOU ACTUALLY DRIVE BY THERE? DURING MORNING TRAFFIC. AND DID YOU DRIVE BY THERE IN THE EVENING TRAFFIC, SO YOU GOT TO LOOK AT BOTH WAYS HERE, AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO REDEVELOP AND DO ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE LONG RUN YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LEAVE. YOU'VE BUILT SOMETHING, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAINTAIN IT. AND SO, YES, I'M AGAINST IT. I PREFER TO JUST, YOU KNOW.

LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. THANK YOU. ALL ALRIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER IS RANDALL. MCFEELY.

AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS RANDALL MCFEELY 47 06. FOR SPRINGS COVE. GARLAND. I AMT NORTH OF THIS DIVISION HERE. AH! I THINK MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS IS WE HAD NO. FORNEY NOTHING UNTIL LAST WEEK. NOBODY IN OUR SUBDIVISION. NOBODY IN SUBDIVISIONS SURROUNDING US. HAD ANY IDEA THAT THIS WAS GOING ON UNTIL THOSE SIGNS HIT THE STREET ONS, ION 10 DAYS AGO. IF I'M GONNA PICK THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH IT AND OPPOSE WITH IT, IT IS THE TRAFFIC. THE ENTRANCE WAY WHERE THEY'VE GOT. IT IS NOT 100 FT, OFF WHERE TRUCKS ARE COMING OUT OF A TRUCK STOP. AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A RIGHT HAND LANE IN THERE. TO GO. THERE IS A SINNER LANE. THERE IS A LEFT LANE. IT'S NOT MARKED PROPERLY AND NINE OUT OF 10, PEOPLE THAT TURN ONTO THE STREET TO GO LEFT DO IT OUT OF THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TRAFFIC WISE TO MAKE THIS WORK. I AGREE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT MAY BE BEST FOR THAT AREA, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE TRAFFIC. AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE BOUGHT OUR HOME AND BUILT OUR HOME IN COLEMAN HOMES IN 2007. AND WE HAVE SINCE SEEN THE EYE, BUT THE BUSH COME IN DROP RIGHT IN OUR BACK WINDOW WHERE WE WATCH THEM COME DOWN THE RAMP EVERY DAY ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT. THE NOISE HAS GOTTEN CRAZY. BECAUSE OF IT. WE HAVE GOT AN EXIT LANE TAKEN OFF OF ZION ROAD THAT DID GO ON TO 30 HEADING WEST, SO WE HAVE TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN, PASSED THROUGH A RED LIGHT TO GET BACK UP ON 30 FROM OUR DIVISION IS IT IS IT IS AND COMING FROM THE WEST SIDE. PARRICIDE THERE IS NO EXIT THAT WILL CLEAR EXCEPT FOR HIS EYE ON SO EVERYBODY COMES DOWN THROUGH THERE, SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST ADDING TO IT, AND WE PUT 380 UNITS IN THERE.

AND, YES, THERE'S ONLY TWO BEDROOMS AND ONE BEDROOMS AND EFFICIENCIES. THERE IS NO THREE BEDROOMS IN THERE. THAT HELPS, BUT IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC AND

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? AGAIN. THAT'S 47 064 SPRINGS COVE. THANK YOU, SIR.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER AS GEOFFREY SMEDLEY. WHAT. MALES. HI EVERYONE. HE HAS JOKES. AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M IN A DRESS. UM MY NAME IS FACE MEDLEY AND I LIVE AT 48 10 MARINA COAL. UM I AM THE FIRST HOUSE TO THE NORTH AND THE UP UPPER CORNER. WHERE YOU HAVE THAT GREEN BELT AREA. UM.

WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2007. WHEN THE UM COMMON HOMES FOREST CREEK SUBDIVISION WAS FIRST BUILT. UM. THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THERE WAS NO KIND OF CRIME WHATSOEVER. BUT MY HOUSE AND MISS DUNCAN'S HOUSE WAS BROKEN INTO BEFORE WE COULD EVEN FULLY MOVE IN. SO THERE IS CRIME. IT'S NOT A CRIME LYS AREA. UM, THE BUILDER. EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD ON PICTURE. TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE OUT OF THIS WORLD. WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH TRAFFIC, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS. THE SUBDIVISION THAT THEY HAVE THERE AND THE MULTI COMPLEX THAT THEY HAVE, OR YOU HAVE. THE TOWN HOMES AND THEN YOU HAVE THE APARTMENTS SOMEWHAT IN THE MIDDLE. IF YOU GO UP AND YOU MAKE THAT RIGHT ON MARINA COVE. AND YOU'RE SAYING YES, WE HAVE THAT GREEN BELT AREA THAT SOMEWHAT PROTECTS THE UPPER NORTH FROM THE HOUSING DIVISION. I BEG TO DIFFER. BECAUSE FOR ONE THING. OVER TO THE RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE ALL THE TREES. THERE WAS A HOMELESS. FAMILY OR PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT GREEN AREA. I'VE CALLED THE POLICE TWICE TO HAVE THEM GO BACK IN THERE. TO SEE YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET THEM TO MOVE OUT. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME BACK.

WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESS COMING THROUGH THERE. WE'VE ALSO HAD PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH. PARKING ON MARINA COVE. SOMEWHAT IN FRONT OF MISS DUNCAN'S HOUSE, AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'LL GET OUT OF THEIR CAR. GO THROUGH THAT GREEN AREA TO GO FISHING.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THIS SUBDIVISION BEING BUILT HERE SO NOW THAT'S MORE PEOPLE COMING IN. AND LIKE THE FEMALE SAID THAT YOU HAVE VISITORS COMING IN WHICH THEY KNOW THAT POND YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN FISH IN IT THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC. AND THEN ANOTHER THING . ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE. IS THAT RIGHT NOW? UM THE BUILDERS SPOKE ON THE WILDLIFE. I HAVE BLUEBIRDS. I HAVE RED BIRDS. THEY'RE NESTING ALL OVER. WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO ONCE THIS IS BUILT. I'VE HAD EAGLES SIT ON MY BACK FENCE. I'VE HAD CROWS SIT ON MY HOURS. I HAVENT HOURS THAT SET UP IN THE TREE. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO? AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE POND WE HAVE TO SUM UP.

OKAY I'M A SUMMIT. SO DO THE POND. YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SNAKES AND RODENTS? YEAH ONCE YOU DEVELOP THAT ALL OF THEM SNAKE AND ROLAND'S ARE GOING TO GRAVITATE NORTH. YES GRAVITATE NORTH. SO THERE'S I DON'T KNOW. I'M I'M NOT. I'M AGAINST IT. I THINK,

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QUESTIONS. BUT. OKAY OUR NEXT, UM. NO PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED SOMETHING. 10 DAYS. I GOT NOTICED THIS LAST THURSDAY. YOU KNOW, AND I'M ON THIS COMMISSION. WE GOT NOTICE FOR THIS THURSDAY. WELL TO EXPLAIN. THIS IS WE'RE AN ADVISORY BODY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE ARE LOOKING AT IS LOOKING FOR THE HIGHEST BEST PURPOSE. FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND THIS PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY AND WE, UH. WE? IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T GO INTO THE THEORETICAL AS TWO OTHER WE CAN DISCUSS AH, JUST THE PLAN THAT IS IN FRONT OF US IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. UM THIS WILL GO ON TO COUNCIL AND THEY WILL HAVE THE FINAL WORD ON WHAT ON WHAT IS DONE. BUT WE ARE AN ADVISORY BODY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. OUR NEXT OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS THINK THEY'LL TILLERY. JOHN. MY NAME IS STILL TILLERY. I LIVE WITH 45 13 SCENIC CIRCLE. BEEN THERE ALMOST 40 YEARS. MY BROTHERS. LIVE WITHIN A BLOCK AND WHERE I LIVE. THEY'VE BEEN THERE AT LEAST 30 YEARS. MY FATHER HAS BEEN THERE OVER 40 YEARS. ALL THAT TO SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS TALKED ABOUT CERTAINLY THE CONCERN WITH THE TRAFFIC THERE IS ONE OTHER ASPECT OF IT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE REALLY TOUCHED ON YET, BUT IF YOU LOOK JUST TAKE A LAND NORTH OF THAT POND AND RUNNING WEST AS FAR AS YOU WANT TO, THEN RUN NORTH UP. ZAIN ROAD. THAT'S WHERE ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE STARTING. THE STREET BEFORE MR JENNINGS AND SHE'S BEEN AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GETTING OUT THE NOTICE. I'M NOT GOING TO FAULT Y'ALL FOR THE NOTICE. BUT MR. ROSE IF YOU JUST GOT IT LAST THURSDAY, AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAD ENOUGH FAN. YOU FEEL LIKE THIS AND SEEMS LIKE MAYBE YOU WOULD WANT MORE TIME TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY. TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN HAVE A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN HELPING THE CITY. GET THE BEST THAT WE CAN GET. THE SELLERS HAVE THEM GET THE BEST THAT THEY CAN GET FOR THEIR PROPERTY. BUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THERE'S A SERIOUS FAIR NOTICE ISSUE. OH, THAT SHRUGGED UP IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTICIPATORY GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SHRUG OFF WHEN PEOPLE DON'T GET NOTICED THAT ADVERSELY IMPACT THEIR LAST INVESTMENT NOW. NORTH. WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, TOO. WHAT GOD FORBID WE HAVE ANOTHER TORNADO OF FIRE. ANOTHER MAJOR EVACUATION ISSUE. RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT WITH TWO LANES, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION. YOU PUT ANOTHER. HOW MANY HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN A UNITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY HAVE TO BE EVACUATED TO YOU GOT A BOTTLENECK THERE. THAT IS A RECIPE. FOR PUBLIC DISASTER. AND WE'VE NOT TOUCHED ON THAT. SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL. FOR THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL TO STAND UP FOR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. STAND UP FOR PEOPLE HAVING A VOICE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND SAY NO TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT FAIR. WE'VE

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GOOD EVENING. I'M TRACEY HAYES. I LIVE AT 4606 BAYBERRY LANE. ABOUT SEVEN HOUSES OFF OF THE FIRST STREET. JUST BAYBERRY. YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE ON THE TOP. RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LAKE THERE. UM. EVERYONE HAS PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT, AND, UH I THOUGHT ALL THOSE THINGS I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A DEFINITE FIRE HAZARD. COMING OUT OF THERE. THAT'S ONE WAY. IT. ZION ENDS AT THE LAKE. IF THERE IS SOMETHING. GOING ON THERE. I WAS IN THE TORNADO ZONE FOR THE LAST TORNADO. AND, UH, EVERYONE WANTED TO COME TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE I HAD A SOME SORT OF A CEMENT THING THAT THE LAST PERSON BOUGHT. ARE BUILT. AT MY HOUSE, AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE LEFT THAT AREA. YOU PUT 1000 PEOPLE THERE. RIGHT THERE, ALONG WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT THE POLTI. WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT OWN. THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WANTS TO SELL IT. THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. NOW I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THAT SIDE. BUT UP THERE AT MARINA COVE. THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU'VE LIVED IN THAT AREA, WHICH MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT AREA OLDER AND THEY ORBIT AND THEY VESTED THEIR LIVES AND THAT IN THAT AREA, AND THEY BOUGHT FOR GOOD REASON THERE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S QUIET. IT'S A LITTLE SECURED. IT'S PROBABLY GARLANDS BEST KEPT SECRET. IF YOU WILL. BUT NOT ANYMORE. AND YOU HAD 1000 PEOPLE. TO THAT AREA. YOU DEFINITELY COULD HAVE A DISASTER IF THERE'S ANY DISASTERS TO BE HAD FIRE TORNADO. JUST LIKE THE LAST SPEAKER SAID. THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS. THE OTHER ONE IS THE IS THE TRAFFIC. THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES OFF OF COLLINS ROAD GOING NORTH. AND DESIRE. THAT ESPECIALLY DURING. RUSH HOUR IF YOU'VE EVER CAME OFF AT 80 AND TRIED TO GO UP COLLINS ROAD TO GO TO GET ON 30. THAT'S A DISASTER. JUST TO REITERATE WHAT THE OTHER SPEAKER SAID. WHEN YOU COME OFF OF 30. ON THAT FRONTAGE ROAD HEADING EAST. AND YOU SWEEP AROUND THERE TO GET ON ZION. CAN'T WAIT. 10 MINUTES. NOW YOU COUPLE THAT WITH THE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT TRUCK STOP! I KNOW I'M SORRY. THE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT TRUCK STOP! 1000 PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AND ANOTHER . IF THERE'S 82 HOUSES, LET'S SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE A 250 PEOPLE 1200 PEOPLE ANOTHER YOU'RE GOING TO ADD 1200 PEOPLE TO THAT AREA. AND NOT EXPECTED DISASTER. I HAVE TO VOTE. NO. I'M AT OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT Y'ALL

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MONEY. BUILDERS MONEY. HOMEOWNERS MONEY. IT'S ALL MONEY , AND IT'S BUT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, IT'S PEACE OF MIND AND WHERE THEY'VE INVESTED THEIR LIFE. SHE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO UM, I JUST HAVE TO SAY NO. AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MEGAN HAMBLETON. THINK SHE LEFT. OKAY WE HAVE A AH, BUT WISE.

GOOD EVENING. I'M BUD WITH LIVED AT 44 09 SCENIC CIRCLE WITH MY WIFE, MARGARET. FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO THE LAST TIME WAS IN THIS ROOM. I WAS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST GEORGE BUSH. AND WE WERE TOLD A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE GREAT. IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM WHETHER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED, BUT WE BIT THE BULLET FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE CITY OF GARLAND AT THAT TIME. THERE ARE NEGATIVE IMPACTS FROM GEORGE BUSH. ONE OF THE WORST THINGS IS THE CUT US OFF FROM OUR PARK. IT CUT US OFF FROM JOHN PAUL JONES PARK, WHICH BEFORE THE TORNADO WAS KIND OF THE JEWEL IN THE CROWN OF GARLAND PARK SYSTEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, BUT WE ARE COMPLETELY CUT OFF BECAUSE GEORGE BUSH IS NOW A BARRIER WIW RESIDENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT PARK IS THERE. I DID NOT PLAN ON SPEAKING TONIGHT I WAS TRIGGERED BY THE PRESENTATION OF THE DEVELOPER SHOWING A CAR PARKED ON ZION ROAD IN FRONT OF THOSE BUFFER TOWN HOMES. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT ZION ROAD IS OUR PLAYGROUND FOR OUR CHILDREN.

IT'S OUR JOGGING TRACK DOG WALKING TRACK BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO JOHN PAUL JONES PARK. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAYING AND MENTIONING THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY. BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY IS FOR THE CITY TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND GIVE US OUR PARK BACK. LET THE KIDS HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY THAT SAFE. FAILING THAT. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT ZION ROAD IS A NO PARKING ZONE. SO KID ISN'T GOING TO GET HIT BY A CAR AND I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THE DEVELOPER TO CHANGE THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE AND MOVE IT TO I 30 SO THAT THERE'S NO TRAFFIC GOING UP NORTH OF WATERHOUSE ROAD. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. OKAY? MHM. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE BILL SWISHER. SPOKEN OH, LET'S SEE. WE'VE GOT CAMILLA HARRIS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMILA HARRIS. I'M AT 44 14 SCENIC CIRCLE GARLANDS AND 5043, AND I'M JUST GOING TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID I AM AGAINST THIS. THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TERRIBLE. UM WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE APARTMENTS. WE ALREADY GOT. PLENTY OF HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM THIS IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS, UM, THAT LIVE IN OUR AREA IN ZION ROAD AGAIN, JUST BEING AT THAT GETTING OFF HIS IRON ROAD AND TRYING TO HURRY UP AND GET OVER . UM YOU SEE YOUR LIFE FLASH BEFORE YOU BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING THERE. THERE'S NO COURTESY. THERE'S NO NOTHING THERE SO YOU'RE JUST ADDING MORE TO THE TRAFFIC. YOU'RE ADDING MORE TO THE CONGESTION THAT'S ALREADY THERE. I APPRECIATE THE BUILDERS FOR, UM, THEIR ENTHUSIASM AND THEIR PRESENTATION. UM BUT THIS IS NOT NEEDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL VOTE NO AS WELL AS, UM, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARL ELLIOTT. HELLO MY NAME IS CARL ELLIOTT. I LIVE AT 48 OR NINE PARADISE COVE. I MEAN, MY WIFE WAS THE FIRST HOUSE AND THAT COMMUNITY

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HELLO. SO I JUST MOVED HERE. UM JUNE 20TH I STAY AT 46 02 SPINNAKER GOLD. I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN HIS POND, SO I EVEN KNOW THIS WAS EVEN IN THIS AREA. SO I MEAN, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN APARTMENTS ALL MY LIFE. I JUST MOVED INTO THIS HOUSE. THIS HOME RATHER IS QUIET. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUIET. THERE'S NO LOT OF LOUD MUSIC OR NONE OF THAT GOING ON. I STAYED IN AND EVERY TIME I GO TO APARTMENTS, IT'S A LOT OF TRASH JUST DRIVING DOWN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT STREET THAT IS, BUT I KNOW THIS STREET. THIS IS ON THE STREET. AND GOING TO WHERE THEY'RE WALMART IS IT'S JUST A LOT OF COMMOTION THERE. I DON'T THINK THEY REALIZED IF YOU HAVEN'T LIVED IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT APARTMENT COMPLEXES BRING. I USED TO SECURITY AND APARTMENTS. SECURITY. DON'T DO NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. THE MANAGERS DON'T DO NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING, AN APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR TOWN HOMES OR WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD. I GOT THIS. WHEN I WAS ON VACATION. SOME LADY STOPPED BY MY HOUSE AND SEE IT COME TO THIS MEETING. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE BEFORE, BUT I THINK THAT SOMETHING ELSE COULD BE DONE WITH IT LIKE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA BUY SOMEBODY'S GONNA BUY IT. SOMEONE'S GONNA USE IT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ANOTHER APARTMENT BECAUSE IT ONLY BRINGS NEGATIVE. I MEAN, I'M A P I AND I HAD SO MANY JOBS IN APARTMENTS DOING ANYTHING. IT'S NOT GONNA BE. IT'S NOT HEALTHY. I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK LIKE I WAS LOOKING FOR A WALKING PART.

ME AND MY WIFE GOT SEVEN KIDS. THERE'S NOWHERE TO TAKE THOSE KIDS. YOU CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL TO GO TO THE PART. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE PARK IS OVER HERE. BUT LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE TALK TO HIS LIVE HERE LONGER THAN I JUST MOVED IN. WHAT WHAT? THE HALF AGO OVER STORE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WALKING UP THE STREET. YOU KNOW, JOGGING UP THE STREET WALKING THEIR DOGS. WHERE DO THEY GO? SO IF I MEAN YOU CAN SEE MY HOUSE ON THIS ON THIS MAP. SO LIKE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ME? LIKE I JUST CAME FROM APARTMENTS TO COME TO SEE MORE APARTMENTS, MORE TRASH, MORE PEOPLE, MORE CARS, NOISE POLLUTION. IS I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THEY NEEDED OVER HERE. YOU KNOW, LIKE I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. YOU HEAR THAT LONG, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE BRINGING MORE APARTMENTS. THEN THEN I THINK I HEARD HIM SAY IT'S LIKE $3000. MY ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT WAS AND WENT FROM 800 TO 1043. ANYBODY GONNA PAY $3 LIVING NOBODY'S HOUSE. THE APARTMENT OR CONDO. I MEAN, WHAT YOU GOT. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU GIVING THEM TO? TO HAVE THAT MUCH RENT. IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THEIR OWN PLACE. BUT I'M GONNA DRIVE THIS LITTLE THING WHEN I GO HOME BECAUSE I'M

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ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER I HAD ON THE LIST. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COME ON DOWN, YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD WITH WOODS HERE? YEAH. YEP AFTER YOU'VE DONE THIS, SEE THE CITY SEE THE SECRETARY AT THE END OF THE CARD. MY NAME IS TINA JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 46 10 SPINNAKER COVE. AND UH, I WAS GOING TO TRY AND SHOW A VIDEO BECAUSE NOT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS SEEN THE ROADWAYS EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT SO I MAY TRY AND PUT MY CELL PHONE UNDERNEATH THIS PROJECTOR AND SAVE IT TO PLAY.

AH AND THAT MAY HELP EVERYONE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE HOTEL IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CALLED THE DISCOVERY IN AND WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF BAD STUFF GOING ON THERE AND WALKING ALONG 30. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK ALONG 30 GOING FROM ZION ROAD TOWARDS BROADWAY BOULEVARD , AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE . BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THE BEST OF PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO STOP AND ASK. DO YOU NEED A RIDE? SO WHEN FAMOUS AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE I HAD NO IDEA HOMELESS PEOPLE WERE THERE, BUT I BET A LOT OF PROBLEMS COUNT. CALM BECAUSE THERE IS A TRUCK STOP AND DISCOVERY IN THERE THAT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT. AND SO TO THE TEACHERS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERSON WOULD PAY $3000 TO STAY IN SOME NICE TOWN HOMES RIGHT BEHIND THE TRUCK STOP AND A DISCOVERY IN BUT ANYWAY, LET'S TRY AND WATCH THE VIDEO AND THEN MAYBE GIVE THE COUNCIL SOME IDEA OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO POINT OUT. IT MAY NOT WORK, AND IF IT DOESN'T, THAT'S FINE. I GUESS IT HAS TO REGISTER THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE. OKAY SO SLIDE IT BACK, ALMOST HAD IT. WELL, WHAT DOES WE MIGHT NOT BUILD, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT MIGHT NOT WORK. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO WORK. OKAY SO BAD, BUT I WILL POINT OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY THAT ZION ROAD WHEN YOU'RE COMING TO THESE ION ROAD FROM 30 EAST AND YOU'RE GOING, I GUESS NORTH TO GET ON NORTH ZION ROAD. THERE IS ONLY ONE STOP SIGN IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK STOP. SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM SUNNYVALE TOWARD ZION ROAD NORTH TOWARDS THE TRUCK STOP GAS STATION. THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY CAN JUST PASS EACH OTHER. AND THE ONLY STOP SIGN IS WHEN YOU'RE COMING OFF OF THAT SERVICE ROAD UNDERNEATH GEORGE BUSH AND YOU'RE COMING AROUND THE CURVE, YOU STOP AND YOU LOOK BOTH WAYS TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO LET YOU GO. SO A STOP SIGN IN FRONT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME SERIOUS. REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ROADWAY AND PROBABLY SIGNAL LIGHTS. THERE IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. UM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SHOW OF HANDS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE FACTUALLY DRIVEN OUT THERE AND LOOK I MISSED IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. WE'VE GOT SORRY, MAXWELL. SO AND THE BOY, THAT WAS A MOMENT THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. THANK ALL OF YOU AT THE FUTURE NEIGHBORS FOR Y'ALL'S INPUT. UM REALLY, SINCERELY APPRECIATE Y'ALL SHOWING UP SPENDING YOUR TIME THIS EVENING TO GIVE US FEEDBACK THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN PRIOR TO THIS IF WE HAD HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET UM. I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. UM THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY WOULD BE PAYING ON AVERAGE ABOUT 1700 TO 17 50 FOR RENT, THE $3000 WOULD BE FOR THE TOWN HOMES. THOSE ARE ALMOST 2000 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. SIGNIFICANT UNITS, UM, IN ORDER TO AFFORD THAT LEVEL OF RENT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ANYWHERE FROM $275,000 IN ANNUAL INCOME. SO THESE THESE RENTERS ARE NOT GOING TO BRING CRIME. THESE THESE ARE GOING TO BE GOOD QUALITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HIGH EARNERS HIGHLY EDUCATED. NOT TYPICAL, UM WHAT SOMEONE MIGHT TYPICALLY THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF AN APARTMENT RENTER. AND THEN FOR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WILL NEVER BE A SECTION EIGHT APARTMENT. UM IT WILL ALWAYS BE A CLASS A LUXURY FAMILY COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE LEVELS OF RETURNS THAT WE HAVE TO STRIVE TO MEET. WE COULD NOT AFFORD TO, UH TURN THE PROPERTY INTO THAT. AND THEN FOR ALL THE UNITS THAT ARE AROUND THIS

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THERE'S A SHOT CLOCK IS WHAT IT'S CALLED. THAT DETERMINES THE TIME FRAME FRAME THAT ALL OF THIS OCCURS ALONG ITS MANDATED TO US BY THE LEGISLATURE. IT'S ACTUALLY A CRIME FOR ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION OR ANYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT OR SUGGEST IT, SO I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL CLARIFIED THAT FOR A MINUTE, SO THIS IS NOT A SHOT CLOCK SITUATION LIKE PLANNING OR SOME SORT OF THINGS LIKE THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO POSTPONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS, UM, TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT , UM, DEFINITELY HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH UM SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD BE BREAKING STATE LAW BY BY DOING THAT, UM, YOU WOULD NOT BE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCIL BUT YOU WOULD NOT BE. IT'S WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. ALWAYS TO ASK FOR A DELAY. OR FOR POSTPONEMENT, WHETHER WHETHER THAT WOULD BE POSTPONEMENT FOR THIS BODY TO CONSIDER OR SUBSEQUENT POSTPONEMENT FOR THE FOR US TO VOTE, BUT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING. WHEN YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT ARE SAYING IT IS ILLEGAL FOR US TO SUGGEST SUGGEST SUGGEST THAT IF YOU ASKED FOR IT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. I'M SAYING WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN OUR CONTRACT. UM, TO WITH THE TIME WE HAVE TO PROPOSE ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE MORE IMMEDIATE HOMEOWNERS THAT WE HAVEN'T DIRECTLY MET WITH, UM AND SO IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MEET WITH US AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM IF I COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM OUR LAST, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT FOR SOME OF THE PUBLIC I CAN DEFINITELY UM, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. MR JENKINS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU MOVE ON THAT UM, BEFORE WE GO TOO MUCH FURTHER, CAN WE GET FROM COUNCIL? UM DIRECTION OR GUIDANCE REGARDING A REQUEST. UH SUCH SUCH HAS BEEN REFERENCED BY COMMISSIONER ALVIN. YES IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO POSTPONE FOR TWO WEEKS, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO FALL UNDER THE SHOT CLOT. THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST CHANGE. IT'S NOT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. IT WOULD BE FUN. THERE'S NO DETAILED PLAN INVOLVED IN THIS ONE. THERE IS A DETAILED PLAN DETAILED PLAN ATTACHED. JUST EVEN IF THERE IS A DETAILED PLAN OF THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED, THEN WE'RE FINE. I THINK WE'RE FINE. SO WE'RE DONE TALKING. IF THAT'S THE NO. BUT IF THAT'S THE REQUEST, AND THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AN EMOTION CAN BE MADE. CAN THEY CAN THEY MAKE AN ORAL POSTPONEMENT REQUEST? FOR THE G D. C YES. AND WE WOULD BE LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP IF WE COULD, AND THEN YES, ABSOLUTELY. THAT ASKED FOR POSTPONEMENT AS WELL. CHAIRMAN, IF THAT'S OKAY, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM I GUESS I'LL START BY SAYING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF VICTIMS. UM HERE WITH THE HIGHWAY THAT CAME THROUGH. UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WERE DISRUPTED. UM ONE OF THOSE VICTIMS IS THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND THAT BEING THAT WE HAVE A HIGHWAY THAT CAME THROUGH AND THE OVERPASS AND YEAH, THERE'S GREAT THINGS ABOUT HIGHWAYS. IT GETS PEOPLE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER QUICKLY, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, IT DID NOT AFFORD THE PROPERTY WELL, VERY LITTLE FRONTAGE ON AN ACTUAL HIGHWAY WITH ACTUAL STREET FRONTAGE OR SERVICE ROAD FRONTAGE. UM, WE CANNOT HAVE ACCESS TO I 30. THAT'S THAT'S

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EVEN IF EVEN IF YOU COULD DEVELOP RETAIL HERE, HE WOULD HAVE TONS MORE TRAFFIC. NOT ONLY THAT, IF IT'S IF IT'S RETAIL THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE CR DISTRICT. YOU COULD JUST THEY WOULD JUST GO APPLY FOR A PERMIT, AND THEY COULD JUST DEVELOP TO THE CODE. YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. WHERE YOU CAN TIE DOWN BY EXHIBITS AND CONDITIONS. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM A VERY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPER. UM THIS WILL BE RESTRICTED ACCESS, MEANING THAT WILL HAVE PERIMETER FENCING AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT FOR ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WILL REMAIN A NORTHERN, A TREED AREA, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF LIKE BACK AND FORTH TRAFFIC. UM PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY FENCE UP.

OTHER COMMENTS MADE. I THINK YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTAND IT. I MEAN, WORKING HERE AS A PLANNER FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW, NOT QUITE BACK TO THE TO THE EIGHTIES. BUT YOU KNOW A WHILE NOW, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW BAD THE APARTMENT THEY WERE DEPARTMENTS IS AND I 30 AND SO WHEN YOU THINK OF APARTMENTS, YOU THINK OF THE RUNDOWN APARTMENTS AND SOME OF THE TROUBLE APARTMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE AREA, AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THAT THIS WOULD BE A $70 MILLION DEVELOPMENT. IT WOULD THEY WERE GOING TO OWN IT. AND OPERATE IT IF IT DID, EVER SELL. IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR. SOMEONE HAS A TON OF MONEY AND WORSHIP AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PROTECT THEIR ASSETS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY. UM SOME COMMENTS WERE MADE VERY EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU DO MAKE SHOES WELL, NEXT. AS YOU SEE VERTICAL MIXED USES ONLY DONE IN VERY, VERY SELECT SPOTS NEAR DOWNTOWN. SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE MIXED USE ON HIGHWAYS, UM, AS PART OF THE LIFESTYLE CENTER , BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS. YOU GOTTA HAVE GOOD THOROUGHFARE. ACCESS UM, THIS DOES NOT HAVE THAT HAS PROPERTIES IN FRONT OF IT HAS VERY LITTLE GREAT ACCESS TO THE HIGHWAY, NOT TO MENTION ZION ROAD EVEN THOUGH IT'S PLANNED TO BE AN 80 FT RIGHT AWAY. UM IT'S STILL NOT A MAJOR THERAPY WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC. UM ON THE 80 FT ARE ON ZION ROAD. IT IS PLANNED TO BE AN 80 FT RIGHT AWAY, AND WE'RE DEDICATING SOME ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY AREA MAKE IT WILL SOMEDAY BE A FOUR LANE ROAD. UNDIVIDED UM, AND THE RE AND HOW YOU GET THERE IS YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT COME IN AND TAX BASE, AND THEN THEY END UP IT WARRANTS THE CITY COMING IN AND SPENDING MONEY AS PART OF THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. TO ADD THOSE LANES TO ACCOMMODATE, UM OR ADJUST TO THE TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT HAPPENS IF THIS SITS VACANT, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT MADE THAT THAT, UM IS THE IMPETUS FOR IMPROVING OR ADDING ANOTHER LANE OR TWO, BUT SOMETHING IS AND YOU GOT PULTE. YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS COMING IN. AND YOUR YOUR TRAFFIC DIRECTOR CAN CORRECT ME OTHERWISE, BUT IT'S A I BELIEVE IT'S A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD AT 80 FT RIGHT AWAY. AS UM AS AT FULL BUILD OUT. UM, THE I THINK ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING THINGS AND THIS MAYBE THIS IS BECAUSE I'M A CITY PLANNER, NERD, AND NO ONE ELSE PICKED UP ON THIS. BUT UM, IT'S VERY WHEN , WHEN A COMPANY LIKE FREEZING NICKELS OR SOME OTHER CONSULT CONSULTING COMPANY COMES IN AND HELPS THE CITY DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON A HIGHWAY PROPERTY AND THEY ZONE CR RETAIL ZONING. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM TO PROPOSE MULTI FAMILIES OWNING OR MULTI FAMILY USE AS THE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE, URBAN LIVING OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IN THE COMPLAINT.

FOR A PROPERTY THAT'S VERY COMPELLING TO ME IS LIKE EVEN PEOPLE WHO WORK. UM AND IN

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YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME AND BEEN IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. SO MY QUESTION IS, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE MENTIONED A NUMBER HAVE DIRECT COUNTER, I GUESS ARGUMENTS AND REBUTTALS. ARE THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION? IS THERE ANY. FLEXIBILITY IN THE DETAILED PLAN, OR UM, AND HOW YOU WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT IS THERE? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY CAN GET TO A YES HERE OR HIS? ARE WE PRETTY MUCH SET WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US, AND THAT'S THAT.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE IT AS IT IS. WELL, WE DID. WE DID PRODUCE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SAID THAT, UM THAT TO ACCOMMODATE OUR DEVELOPMENT. WE DO HAVE TO DO A RIGHT DECELERATION AND INTO OUR MAIN ACCESS POINT. UM THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM , HAD RECOMMENDED. WE DO HAVE 381 UNITS. UM BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, COMPARED TO A LARGE RETAIL CENTER, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE MUCH LESS. NOT ONLY THAT WITH WITH MULTI FAMILY OR ANY REALLY ANYTHING SINGLE FAMILY. A LOT OF YOU DON'T HAVE QUITE THE PEAK LEVELS OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU HAVE, WITH CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS, AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT PEOPLE GO TO WORK AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO SOME PEOPLE WORK AT HOME. AND SO THEY DON'T ALL LEAVE AT EIGHT P.M. 88 A. M IN THE MORNING THEY MAY LEAVE 89 10 AND THEY WORK DIFFERENT HOURS ALL TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY COME HOME. MAYBE

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MOVE TRAFFIC, SO OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ACTUALLY KIND OF DID THAT FOR THE CITY IN THAT IT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE NEARLY OUTSIDE OF WHERE IT'S AT AN INTERSECTION. THAT'S NOT TO BUY TOO FAR AWAY. BUT THE POINT BEING IS NOT A DIRECT UM ELEMENT. THAT'S A J IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT ROAD DEVELOPMENT BUT THAT BUT WE DEFINITELY SHARED THAT WITH THE CITY. SO THAT WAY IF TECH START AND THE CITY DETERMINED THAT SOME CHANGES NEEDED TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE SERVICE LEVEL, UM TO THE SOUTH OF ZION AND 30, THEY HAVE THAT DATA TO DO THAT TO BUILD ON THAT, AS FAR AS ANY ANY COOPERATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS WERE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT MORE INVOLVED EARLIER IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSION. WE CAN DO THAT NOW BETWEEN NOW AND COUNSEL. WE CAN DO THAT WITH A COUPLE OF WEEK POSTPONEMENT WILL DEFINITELY GET A MEETING SET AND HAPPY TO MEET. UM THIS DEVELOPMENT IS WHEN YOU SAY CAN YOU MAKE CHANGES? I REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CHANGES. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH AN INVESTOR OR DEVELOPER. THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IT'S AN EXCELLENT PLAN. UM AND I THINK IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT MULTI FAMILY AS IT IS, IS A GOOD USE HERE. CONSIDERING CR ZONING IS NOT SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT GOING TO WORK UNDER THE HIGHWAY COST OF LAND AND OTHER OTHER ASPECTS. SO UM, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET. UM AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THAT MEETING THAT WE CAN, UM OBLIGED AND MAYBE CHANGE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET IN YOUR DEVELOPER AND JUST GET DOING BUILDING DOWN THE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T YOU DON'T YOU DON'T ALWAYS THINK OF EVERYTHING. SO THE COUNTER THAT I'VE GOT TO THAT AND I KNOW THIS IS AGAINST HILLARY. UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS READING COLIN POWELL'S BIOGRAPHY, AND HE KIND OF EARLY ON, SAYS YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED THE MOST SOPHISTICATED TOOLS IN THE WORLD. AND YET WE FORGOT TO GO TO THE GROUND AND TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW THE DATA IS. ACTUALLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THAT DATA IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING US. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO KIND OF COLLABORATE WITH THEM AND TO KIND OF HEAR THEM OUT, AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY IN THE FUTURE TO GET TO THE S. SO THANK YOU. BUT WE DID MEET WITH THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON BARRY EARLY AND WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND IT'S VERY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE JUST DIDN'T MEET WITH ANYBODY. NO, NO. AND I IF THAT IS WHAT I IMPLIED, I APOLOGIZE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE NOT EVERY DEVELOPER THAT COMES. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW WITH TWO YEARS. SO DURING THE MIDST OF PANDEMIC, NOT EVERYONE COMES IN HERE AND AT LEAST MAKES AN EFFORT OR ANY EFFORT. AND YOU MADE AN EFFORT. SO THANK YOU. BUT I WASN'T TRYING TO INSINUATE THAT YOU DIDN'T MAKE AN EFFORT. OKAY? MR AUBIN. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR . UM MR FISHER. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE MAYBE YOU COULD ELABORATE ON HOPEFULLY. UM. YOUR YOUR COMPADRE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING APARTMENT NEEDS AND DFW . CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT? MAYBE ABOUT WHAT THE MARKET IS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SOME SENSE OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO LIVE HERE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE MARKET IS LOOKING LIKE OVERALL AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MOVING TO D F TO? I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT. I'LL LET I'LL LET JEFF SPEAK ON THAT. BUT I MEAN, JUST WORKING WITH THE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPERS THAT WE'VE WE'VE EVEN BROUGHT BEFORE Y'ALL. I MEAN, THE QUALITY JUST KEEPS GOING UP AND THEN THE PRICE THE PRICE THAT THEY CAN COMMEND FOR THESE UNITS. IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. FRANKLY UM, AND I THINK THIS WILL SET A NEW STANDARD FOR SOUTH GARLAND. IT'S APPROVED. IN FACT, THE RENT RATES FROM A PURSE QUIT PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS WILL BE SOMETHING COMPARABLE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEAR FIRE WELL, IF NOT UP EXACTLY THERE, BECAUSE IT'S IN A DIFFERENT AREA. IT'S VERY CLOSE, AND THIS IS GOING TO SET WOULD SET A NEW STANDARD FOR SURE. YEAH BECAUSE THERE'S NO INDICATES FAR AS I KNOW, BUT YOU GUYS KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT DEMAND FOR APARTMENT OR ANY KIND OF HOUSING IN NORTH TEXAS IS SLACKING THERE JUST A LOT. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, THERE'S A THERE'S LIKE 1000 PEOPLE MOVING HERE TODAY USED TO BE A JUMBO JET. NOW IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT STOPPING. UH IF YOU CAN PARTICULAR IF YOU'D LIKE MORE

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BASICALLY THERE'S A RANGE OF USES THAT ARE ALREADY PRE APPROVED. AND AS LONG AS YOU MEET THOSE STANDARDS, YOU DON'T THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU IF MR RITTER SAID, YOU KNOW SOMEONE TO BUILD AN AUTOZONE, OR I THINK THEY'RE LIMITED SERVICE HOTELS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE WOULD BE NO THERE WOULD BE NO DISCUSSION HERE. IT WOULD JUST BE APPROVED BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY. COMMUNITY RETAIL ALLOWS A RANGE OF USES, UM, CAN BE OUT OF OUT OF I THINK AUTO AUTO PARTS IS LIKELY AND ALLOWED USE ANY REDEEMABLE RETAILS ALLOWED.

CERTAIN USES STILL REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BUT ALERTS A LOT OF USES THAT WERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL THAT WOULD JUST BE ALLOWED. OR MAYBE NOT. MR GARRETT, HAVE I ACCURATELY OR HAVE WE I'LL LET YOU JUMP IN ON IT AS WELL AS FAR AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES SIR.

YOU ASKED A GREAT QUESTION, MR FISHER'S RESPONSE WAS WAS ACCURATE AS FAR AS SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT'S BY RIGHT AND COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING AND HOW THAT WORKS. WHAT THAT MEANS EXACTLY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IT'S ALL HAPPENED. ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER ROSE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL. IF THE APPLICANT IS. REQUESTING A TWO WEEK DELAY. WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION NOW? IT'S JUST AGREE TO THEIR TWO WEEK TO LET HIM GO. SUSPECT CLEAR ON WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED HE HAS MENTIONED OFFERING A POSTPONEMENT. BUT HE ALSO SAID IN HIS TESTIMONY TO THE CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE THAT HE WANTS A DECISION TONIGHT. SO WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD REFER BACK TO THE G D. C WHICH SAYS THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY BY WRITTEN REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, MR JENKINS. POSTPONED MAKING A DECISION ON THE APPLICATION OF A PLAN OR PLATT AND MAY DIFFER DUE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO POSTPONE THEN WE WOULD WANT THAT IN WRITING. BEFORE DECISIONS MADE. BUT RIGHT SO THE APPLICANT LAUGH TO GIVE TO MR HERE, IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT, SAYING, WE

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SO THAT TEXT MESSAGE WILL BE OKAY. MR CHAIR BEING HAPPY TO DO IT'S ONE THING, BUT WE WOULD NEED A COMMITMENT FROM YOU TO POSTPONE IN WRITING, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO. IT'S YOUR CHOICE. YOU WANT US TO. I SEE A TEXT MESSAGE BE IN WRITING WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE TWO WEEKS TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. BUT THE TEXT MESSAGE SUFFICE. MISSION ROSE. MR PARIS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS. HOLD ON WAITING PATIENTLY. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM . SO A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND THIS MAY GO ALONG WITH THE REQUESTS. UM. THREE KEY THINGS KEEP BUBBLING UP AS A CONCERN FROM FOR CITIZENS AND YOU'VE TOUCHED ON, UM MOSTLY, ALL OF THEM. WITH ONE SUGGESTION WAS OR ONE CONCERN WAS NOT ENOUGH NOTIFICATION TIME. SO BLENDED WITH. THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER TO RALLY AND THEN ALSO COUPLED WITH NOT BOTH OF THE AGENT H. O S WERE ENGAGED ONLY THE ONE THAT WAS KIND OF FURTHEST AWAY AWARE OF CORRECT. JUST GIVE ME A SECOND. I'M GOING SOMEWHERE WITH IT SO MY TAKEAWAY ON THE ENGAGEMENT PART COUPLED WITH WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING WOULD BLEND WITH ALLOWING TIME TO HEAR CONCERNS. MAYBE THERE'S ALTERNATIVES TO WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED. BUT GETTING ENGAGED WITH THE H O A FOR CONSIDERATION WHICH ARE WHICH YOU ARE OFFERING IN THAT ENGAGEMENT. MAYBE ALSO INCLUDE AND I HINTED TOWARD THIS EARLY YEAR, THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT BECAUSE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY WAS A HUGE CONCERN. IF I THINK ABOUT THE THREE KEY THINGS OTHER THAN NOT WANTING THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THERE, BUT THE MAIN THING THAT BUBBLED UP OVER AND OVER WAS TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.

SO IN THAT ENGAGEMENT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF IT IS, IF IT'S IF IT'S WELCOMED BY THE COMMUNITY IS TO HAVE THAT AS A KEY COMPONENT AND I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU PROBABLY ENGAGED WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT AT DISCUSSION IF THAT'S NOT OUT OF ORDER, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS. APPRECIATE THAT. DEFINITELY. YEAH AND THOSE ARE THE THREE KEY THINGS. THANK YOU. THE OTHER SPEAKERS. OKAY, SO YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A TWO WEEK DELAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING. YES MR CHAIR. IF THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS, JUST HAVE HIM WRITE IT DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER TURNED OVER TO THE SECRETARY, AND THEN WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO THERE WITH THE. THAT'S A FIRST. BUT OKAY, HAPPY TO. IN PAPER. I DON'T LIKE THAT.

WELL, READ MY HANDWRITING. TAKE THE EMOTION. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS. AND THE SECOND WAS FROM COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. OKAY? AND THIS IS JUST A CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. THERE IS NOT A VOTE. OTHER THAN JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I REQUEST QUESTION OF COUNSELOR. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND THEY COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HERE? SO LET ME CONTINUE WITH WHAT THIS SECTION SAYS. UPON APPROVAL. THE PLAN COMMISSION TO WANT TO BE APPROVED THE POSTPONEMENT. MAYBE. THE POSTPONEMENT, MAYBE FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 30 CALENDAR DAYS. HE'S ASKED FOR TWO WEEKS. WE'RE GOOD THERE AND DOES NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC NOTICE IF SUCH POSTPONEMENT IS TO A DATE CERTAIN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY NOT REQUEST OR REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO REQUEST POSTPONEMENT. WAVY DEADLINE OR OTHER APPROVAL PROCEDURE UNDER THIS GDC OR CHAPTER 2 12. SO ONCE HE REQUESTS A DAY, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING.

YES, BUT OKAY? THANK YOU. AND. COMMISSIONER ROBIN YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, WE'RE VOTING. AND THEN WE

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WE HAVE NOT WHERE THE VOTE IS. EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S VOTING, OKAY? YES SO THAT'S PROVED AND THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY NOW. WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION. AND. WE HAVE. COMMISSIONER OVEN. THANK YOU, UM, QUESTION FOR COUNCIL. THE ATTORNEYS. DO WE HAVE A VALID REQUEST TO POSTPONE? WELL I NEED TO ASK HIM IF HE HAS A VALID REQUEST TO POSTPONE THE WOMAN TO VOTE ON THIS TO APPROVE IT RIGHT? RIGHT BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS A VALID REQUEST TO POSTPONE DELAY. OKAY DID LOOKING AT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VALID REQUEST. TO POSTPONE I WOULD MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER TO THE AUGUST 8TH 2022 PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION TO DELAY UNTIL THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING.

AND BY COMMISSIONER OVEN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS . AND JUST FOR WHATEVER DISPUTE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY LEFT. THERE MAY NOT BE ADDITIONAL NOTICE THAT GOES OUT.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS TONIGHT. IF YOU WISH TO COME BACK, REACH OUT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FOLKS TONIGHT WHENEVER THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE, SO DON'T FORGET BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A MILLION DEGREES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. AND THEN I'D ALSO SUGGEST THAT YOU REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO MR MORE YOU MAY HEAR FROM AS WELL. HE WILL PROBABLY GET A LIST OF EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN HERE AND SPOKE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HE WILL WANT TO ENGAGE WITH YOU. UH AND TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER MEETING WITH EVERYBODY, UM, I YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER MORE WOULD NOT AT ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WANT TO EXCLUDE OR KEEP ANYBODY OUT OF THE CONVERSATION, SO CLOCK. YES SAME SAME PLACE. SAME BAT TIME. SAME BAT CHANNEL. YES, SIR. ALL THAT.

SO ANYWAY, SO THERE'S THE MOTION . SO OFF WE GO. WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. OKAY? WE HAVE A LET'S VOTE. WE HAD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. WE HAVE THE VOTERS UNANIMOUS. SO WE HAVE I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS UNANIMOUS? YES, WE DO. YES IT IS. IT IS SEVEN, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO, WE STILL HAVE MORE. MAYBE WE HAVE THE TWO MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. YEAH THAT'S A SINGLE ITEM. PARTICULAR KING OF YOUR WINTER CLOTHES FROM THE RESEARCH. YEP LET'S TAKE IT. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. JESUS.

THE OTHER HAD TO REPLACE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES. WE'RE BACK. WELCOME BACK. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE

[3a. Consideration of the application of Aaron Comer / Scout Cold Logistics, LLC, requesting approval of a Variance to Section 4.29 (A)(2) of the Garland Development Code requiring full compliance of landscaping requirements. This property is located at 2600 McCree Road. (District 5) (File SL 22-01)]

[04:05:07]

WE'RE REDEVELOPING AN AREA. WE TOOK DOWN A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WAS NOT USABLE.

WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE DALLAS FOOD CENTER. A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE COMPANY WHERE A COLD STORAGE, FOOD PROCESSING AND FOOD RELATED TYPE COMPANY. WE MAKE INVESTMENTS ALL OVER THE NATION. UM WE BOUGHT DALLAS FOOD CENTER TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. UM AND WITH THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, SOME VALUE ADDED STUFF, THERE'S 67 DIFFERENT TENANTS THERE NOW, INCLUDING BAKED MAX KALOMBO ELITE FLOWERS. UM KRAFT, HEINZ AND SOME OTHERS AS WELL. AND SO, UH, WE TOOK DOWN THE 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. WE'RE ADDING BACK 132,000 THERE ABOUT SQUARE FEET OF ALL COLD STORAGE THAT WILL BE MINUS 10 STORAGE, SO IT WOULD BE A LOT OF FROZEN FOODS GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY. UM IN DOING SO, YOU KNOW, WE PLANNED ON PUTTING BACK LANDSCAPING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. YOU KNOW, TO MEET CODE? UM WE DID RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THE ORIGINAL FACILITY I BELIEVE WAS BUILT IN THE SIXTIES, SO IT IS LITERALLY CONCRETE. UM AND WITH IT BEING A MULTI TENANT DEAL OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET, YOU CAN IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT'S GOING AROUND THAT THE 967,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING LITERALLY HAS DOCS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THAT. WITH THE TRAFFIC PATTERN, WHICH WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE IN ORDER TO KIND OF BRING THINGS UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS. AS DIRECTOR, GARIN SAID. WE ALSO HAVE, UH, POWER LINES THAT ARE OVERHEAD ALONG THE FRONTAGE. UM THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN TREES THERE AND WE DID TRY. YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN TRYING TO BE SPRUCED UP OVER THE YEARS. UM BUT THERE'S ALSO POWER LINES THAT RUN DOWN. THE UH, I GUESS WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE. WE HAVE RAILROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT. THE BUILDING WON'T BE HARDLY BE ABLE TO SEE IT WILL BE BACK BEHIND THAT OTHER BUILDING SO UM FOR THAT REASON, YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A HARDSHIP THERE WITH THIS THE OPERATIONS AND SAFELY OPERATING THE FACILITY AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO GET THE DEGREE OF LANDSCAPING IN THERE. WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THE IS THE RIGHT THING, AND THAT'S BY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WHERE WE'RE PUTTING 100 AND 32,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. SO FOR THAT REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANTS. UM, FOR THE AREA AROUND THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT. WE ARE GOING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING. HOPE. OTHER IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY WELL, THANK YOU VERY EASY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. IT. C A. DO I NEED TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I GUESS WE DO. STILL GETTING USED TO HOW WE DO THINGS. HERE. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. AND YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR THE. NOW MAKE IT YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION ALSO, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD ALSO MOVE THAT WE, UM THAT WE APPROVED THE VARIANCE REQUEST. THIS IS THE 2ND 2ND OR. CLARITY ON THE MOTION IS THAT THE IS THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE REVISED AREA, OR IS THAT JUST A VERY INSULT? RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE THE VARIANCE AND. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE EXHIBITS THAT THEY HAD PRESENTED WITH. IT WOULD INCLUDE WHAT THEY'VE REQUEST. I MEAN, THEY'VE ONLY ASKED FOR A VARIANCE REGARDING BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A COMPLY WITH THE WE'RE LANDSCAPING IN THE AREA WHERE THE DISTURBED WITH THE NEW BUILDING IS GOING TO BE BUILT, SO THERE'S NOT A VARIANCE WITH REQUEST TO THAT. SO THIS IS JUST APPROVING THE VARIANTS WITH RESPECT TO THE OTHER AREAS, AREAS THAT ARE NOT BEING MODIFIED, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE MCCREE FRONTAGE AND THEN ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO LIKE THE PARKING LOT AREAS AND OTHER STUFF. SO AS YES AT THE VARIANTS AS REQUESTED HORSE PRESENTED BY STAFF. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORBAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO AND TO PASS THIS AS PRESENTED AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU. OH WHICHEVER THE CHAIRS. OKAY WELL, IT'S GONNA BE IT'S GOING TO BE DEALER'S CHOICE

[04:10:03]

UM YOU KNOW, TO THE AREA THAT WE JUST TAKE THE WE JUST TAKE THAT AS THE AREA AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO REDO THE WHOLE PARKING LOT AND OTHER STUFF WITH LANDSCAPING , SO THAT'S THE BASIS FOR MY MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANYMORE DISCUSSION. WHEN WE'RE READY TO VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR LAST ITEM. IS ANOTHER MISCELLANEOUS. THAT IS. GDC

[3b. Consider amending Section 2.52, “Special Standards for Certain Uses,” Section 6.03, “Definitions,” and Table 7-1 “Downtown District Land Use Matrix,” of Section 7.06 of the Garland Development Code, regarding Mobile Food Truck Parks.]

[04:15:01]

CONCERNING MAKING SOME CLEAR DEFINITION OF SIZES OF RESTROOM FACILITIES. HANDWASHING FACILITIES BASED UPON THE SIZE OF THE FOOD, THE COURT, OKAY. THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER PARIS. AND JUST A REMINDER FROM THROUGH OUR PRE MEETING THE TWO KEY THINGS THAT ARE CALLED OUT AROUND THE REQUIREMENT CONSIDERATION. SO WHEN YOU WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MOBILE FOOD UNIT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES AND SO A COUPLE THAT I MENTIONED PUSH CART WAS ONE OF THOSE. THIS IS A MOBILE TRUCK. PARK AND SO, UM, PUSH CART BANS. ETCETERA JUST MADE IT WANT TO MAKE CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT TYPES OF MOBILE FOOD UNITS ARE WOULD BE ALLOWED. THE OTHER IS BECAUSE OF , UH, FOOD TRUCKS THAT I'VE SEEN WITHIN THE AREA AND I HAD REFERENCED THE COLONY AND THEY HAVE A FOOD TRUCK YARD. I THERE COULD BE LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. SO ORDINANCE WITH MUSIC, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE, UM , ZONING DISTRICTS THAT THIS MAY GO INTO WANT TO MAKE THAT CONSIDERATION TO BE INCLUDED AND WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. AND THEN IF THERE IS A SUGGESTED . S U P RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITHIN THE METROPLEX OR OTHER KEY CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, FOOD TRUCK YARD PARKS THAN UM, WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR INITIALLY BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IN SOME OF MY RESEARCH WHERE IT COULD BE A TEMPORARY APARTMENT OR ANNUAL. SO JUST WHAT HAVE SOME GUIDANCE ON S U P RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY? THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR WELL AND YOU KNOW, I LISTENED TO A NUMBER OF THE DSC. MEETINGS AND SO THE TOILET ISSUE COMES UP IN THAT THAT RECENT MEETING IN APRIL REGARDING PERMANENT TOILET AS OPPOSED TO A TEMPORARY TOILET.

THE TYPE OF BUSINESS RESTRICTION THAT WOULD HAVE ON DEVELOPERS. I SEE THAT WE HAVE SETTLED ON THE PERMANENT. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I'M NOT AGAINST THAT. UM I WOULD . MY QUESTION IS HOW HOW DOES A VARIANCE OF THE S U P COME ABOUT. SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE A DEVELOPER, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND. THEY ONLY HAVE A LIMITED SORT OF USE. IT'S CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL. YOU KNOW , THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION TOWARDS MIDNIGHT BECAUSE THE S U, HOW WOULD A VARIANCE THE SCP COME INTO PLAY, RIGHT? YES SIR MR FISHER THAT IF AN APPLICANT IS NOT OR DOES IT FEEL THEY CAN MEET CERTAIN ONE OF THESE STANDARDS, SUCH AS RESTROOM COMPONENT OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE THE HOURS OF OPERATION THEY COULD REQUEST THAT AS PART OF THE S U. P WHEN IT COMES FORWARD TO PLAYING COMMISSION COUNCIL WHAT THOSE DEVIATIONS ARE VARIANCES, AND THEN WE WOULD CALL THOSE OUT. UM THEY'VE GOT A REQUEST THE S U P ANYWAY, RIGHT? CORRECT SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT BENEFIT US TO BE SUPER. NARROWLY TAILORED TO, YOU KNOW AS A HUGE SWATH OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO COME BEFORE THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THAT WAS REALLY THE COMMITTEE'S APPROACH AS WELL AS NOT GETTING TO OR HAVING TO LENGTHY OF A LIST OR GETTING TOO OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A VARIETY OF SCALES OF THESE TYPES OF PARKS, AND THEY WILL HAVE TO COME FORWARD THROUGH AN S U P REGARDLESS. AND SO IF THERE ARE ANY VARIANCES, DEVIATIONS OR THE LIKE THAT AN APPLICANT FEELS THEY NEED. THEY COULD REQUEST THAT AS PART OF THAT SAME EXACT PROCESS. IT WAS PART OF THAT ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSE QUESTION.

PROBABLY. ALREADY HAS A NATURAL CONCERN WAS GOOD AREA. LIMITED AMOUNT OF FOOD TRUCKS. OR IS THAT ALL GONNA BE DETERMINED BY THE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THE PIECE OF PROPERTY? YES COMMISSIONER, THE LADDER. THERE'S NO NOTHING IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT PUTS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF FOOD

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UM. THE QUESTION COMMISSIONER PARIS RAISED ABOUT JUST WHAT DESCRIBED THE FOOD TRUCK THAT SOMEBODY COULD HAVE A PUSH CART. YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD NOT BE QUITE AS CONDUCIVE. WE COULD THEN LIMIT THEM TO SELF CONTAINED MOTORIZED MOTORIZED SELF CONTAINED WELL, NO, NOT NECESSARILY MOTORIZED BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE A PULL BEHIND, BUT IT'S SELF CONTAINED. SO IT'S GOT ITS OWN GENERATOR. IT'S ON WATER SUPPLY. THAT'S PROPANE COOKING ABILITY. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER GENERALLY ACCEPTED DEFINITION IS A FOOD TRUCK. OKAY? TO ADOPT THAT.

THANK YOU. WELL, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WE CAN LOOK INTO? IT MAY HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH MR ENGLAND. I'M NOT SURE IF MR BETTS OR MR RHODEN? NO. BUT THERE WAS THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMITTEE DISCUSSION. A SEPARATE COMMITTEE WHO LOOKED AT FOOD TRUCK, INDIVIDUAL FOOD TRUCKS AND I BELIEVE THE DEFINITION CAME OUT OF THAT. SO I WE MAY ALREADY HAVE THAT DEFINITION PLACE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF US SO WELL, LOOK, I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT FOR SURE, BECAUSE THAT MAY BE ALREADY BEING PLACED IN THE ORDINANCE AS WE SPEAK BY THE CITY COUNCIL, SO YEAH. YEP. ABSOLUTELY OKAY. RIGHT? SURE JENKINS DO. YOU HAVE OKAY? THERE YOU GO. I DO BELIEVE EITHER EITHER IN THE STATE CODE OR IN OUR OWN ORDINANCES. WE DO DEFINE FOOD TRUCK. I BELIEVE IT'S TECHNICALLY, IT'S ACTUALLY MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION UNIT. UM WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM UM HEY. FOOD SALES. THERE'S A DIFFERENT TERM FOR IT. YEAH THE COLLOQUIAL TOURNAMENTS. ROACH COACH WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE SELLING PRE PREPARED FOOD, SO FOOD TRUCK, THE MOBILE FOOD PREPARATION UNIT COMING ON THE TYPICAL FOOD TRUCK IS WHERE FOOD IS PREPARED ON SITE FOR SALE. UH AND SO WE JUST MEAN I THINK THAT'S ALREADY DEFINED TERM WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES BECAUSE I THINK THAT DID COME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT UM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPANION THAT THAT, UM MR GARIN MENTIONED, UM THERE'S A PROPOSED AT THE TIME THAT THE COUNCIL FIRST DISCUSS THIS. THERE WAS A PROPOSED COMPANION ORDINANCE. UT GENERALLY AS OPPOSED TO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE A FOOD TRUCK COURT. UM THE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD MAKE IT.

IT'S JUST A, UM. YES COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY ANYTHING THAT THAT COMES AS AN AS AN S. U P COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS VARY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. BUT WHEN YOU SET THAT DEFAULT UM, WHEN YOU RECOMMEND THAT OR SET THAT AS AS A DEFAULT , I THINK IT'S UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR COUNCIL. THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED THIS. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A YEAH.

YOU KNOW OUR DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A FOOD THIS PARTICULAR FOOD TRUCK SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE OPEN PAST 11 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SETTING DEFAULT. UH AND IT'S THE SAME THING ON AND IT CREATES A REMINDER OF. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BATHROOMS, WE MAY NOT WANT TO SET THE UM, THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF BATHROOMS. MAYBE IT SHOULD BE. MAYBE THE LANGUAGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE SPECIFIC OR IF YOU COULD JUST SAY YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM OF ONE BATHROOM WITH PROPORTIONALITY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS IF THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE USED AND BASICALLY, WE'RE JUST MAKING A RECORD. I MEAN, COUNCIL IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BUT JUST MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SEE. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD SUGGEST, AND THE PARTICULAR ONE TO ME IS UH, IS THE WEEKEND ONE IS TO PUT THE WEEKEND HOURS. IT'S JUST TO PUT THESE FOOD TRUCKS ARE THESE FOOD TRUCKS, COURTS ON PAR WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT DO ON THE WEEKENDS. STAY OPEN LATER AND GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO ONE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE THINKING ONE.

ONE I WOULD SAY ONE AT A MINIMUM. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY ONE. UM I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO SAYING AFTER AH! AFTER THE BARS CLOSED HB JUST FROM SOMEBODY WHO GREW UP IN AN AREA

[04:25:04]

IS TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT. AND ALTHOUGH YES, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPERS TO SAY OR FOR LANDOWNERS TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW YOU CAN HAVE A TRUCK THEIR PAST A CERTAIN TIME TO SET THE STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD MAY ENCOURAGE, UM, RESPONSE BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS NOT AS UH IS NOT AS IN SUPPORT OF THAT IDEA. AND SO ALLOW THE REQUEST TO COME FROM THE DEVELOPER BY THE S U P BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO COME THROUGH BOTH THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING A STANDARD THAT YOU CAN HAVE OPERATED FOOD TRUCK YOU KNOW NEAR WHEN I AM CERTAINLY IN IN A CITY THAT CAN BE MOSTLY QUIET AFTER CERTAIN TIME, SO THAT'S THAT'S MY REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS. WHAT. YEAH OKAY. COMMISSIONER JANE. OH, AND THE LORD GIVETH AND THE LORD TAKE IT AWAY. THAT WAS I SAW THAT WE WERE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME GOING ON HERE. SO GO FORWARD, SIR, RIGHT? THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. CHAIR I MOVE THAT WE , UH DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING. WE DON'T APPROVE THAT WE WRECK YOU HAVE MOVED THAT WE RECOMMEND WE'RE MAKING. WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO RECOMMEND. IS THAT I RECOMMEND ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS OFTEN DISCUSSING RECOMMEND, AND WE RECOMMEND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM. TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS MAKING A LIST OF SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING HOURS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THEM TO ONE O'CLOCK. ALRIGHT IT'S TOO SO MY SUGGESTION ON THIS WOULD BE THAT THAT WE TAKE IT. THIS IS HOW WE HAVE DONE THINGS RECENTLY. A COUNCIL IS THAT WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO MULTIPLE VOTES. I THINK THIS ONE IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO RECORD WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TWO COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVED THESE CHANGES WITH THE MODIFICATION OF OPERA, ALLOWING OPERATING HOURS ON. FRIDAY NIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING. SUNDAY MORNING. 21 AM, UM, THE OTHER THINGS WE HAD THAT WERE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS PROPORTIONALITY OF THE RESTROOMS TO THE TRUCK COURT TO CONSIDER THAT THAT THAT THEY CAN MAKE A CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPORTIONALITY OF THE RESTROOMS AND. QUESTION OF UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES OR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BASED ON THE REPORT TERRIBLE MOTION, MR. PROJECT REAL QUICK.

WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE. SO LET'S START THERE AND THEN ADD THE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU WISH TO BE CONSIDERED TO IT. SO YOU CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS. RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT THE OPENING HOURS ON THE WEEKENDS. UH THE LANGUAGE REGARDING TRASH FOR SET REQUIREMENTS OF AND LOCATION AND SCREENING OF SOLID WASTE CONTAINERS AND. ALSO THE REST OF THE NUMBER OF RESTROOMS GENERALLY FOR PROPORTIONALITY. ALSO WE HAVE THE TYPES OF UNITS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT COMMISSIONER IN PARIS WAS DISCUSSING. I'M SURE YOU WANTED TO AND THAT MADE ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE AFTER YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT. BUT THAT BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION MUSIC CONSIDERATION. WE HAD THAT ALSO, AND WE HAD MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY LOOK INTO THAT AND THEN ALSO A MEASURE.

AH! MEASURE THIS S U P VERSUS OTHER CITIES. TO EVALUATE IT JUST TO HAVE THEM. LOOK AT THAT.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SURE, LET'S PUT IT ALL IN THE MOTION. WE SUGGEST THEY

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NO. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . WELL SEEING AS THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS, THIS COMMISSION THANK YOU. EVERYBODY OUT THERE IN OUR AUDIENCE, AND UNTIL AUGUST 8TH WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.