Aug 08, 2022 Plan Commission

[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS THE WORK SESSION PORTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE WE GET A BRIEFING FROM STAFF AND THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. LOOKS GOOD. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE 22-31. THIS CASE HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION LAST MEETING AND SINCE THEN THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MADE ANY CHANGES TO THE DETAILED PLAN. IS THERE ANY, UM, ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE STAFF TO GO OVER AT THIS TIME? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMISSIONER AND THEN COMMISSIONED AT ALL.

THERE I KNOW THAT THEY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOING SOME OUTREACH WITH THE PUBLIC. DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS FRUITFUL? YES. SO THEY DID HAVE I BELIEVE THEY HAD TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS SINCE LAST MEETING AND THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON YES. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. COMMISSION DALTON THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE HAS THERE BEEN ANY ADDITIONAL RESPONSES FROM CITIZENS SINCE THE LAST TIME ANYBODY ADD TO IT AT ALL? I KNOW IT WAS NOT REPOST. YEAH, I KNOW. THEY KILLED SEVERAL TREES DOING THIS. UH WAS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL RESPONSES? YES SIR. THERE WERE A FEW. MOST OF THE RESPONSES, OF COURSE ARE CARRY OVERS FROM LAST TIME, BUT I KNOW THE APPLICANT FORWARDED A FEW THAT THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH THAT ARE IN FAVOR. WE ALSO INCLUDED AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE. THE PROPERTY OWNERS THEY WANTED THERE. THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON RECORDS. SO THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL. MR AND MRS KOGER. I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW, SO THERE ARE A FEW ADDITIONAL ONES LITTLE HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE. WHAT'S OLD AND WHAT'S NEW? YEAH ABSOLUTELY. AND F Y I DID ATTEND THE FIRST OF THE TWO TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT THEY CALLED THAT THEY ASKED FOR.

AND LISTENED TO WHAT WAS SAID, AND IT WAS VERY MUCH REPEATING WHAT HAD BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT NOT QUITE AS RAMBUNCTIOUS SELF. I WOULDN'T KNOW. YEAH NO. YEAH I WAS LIKE, YEAH, NEVER COMMISSIONER HUBBARD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A I DON'T KNOW IF I CALL THE PRESENTATION OR NOT, BUT FROM MR LUCKY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT BE BETTER TO DO THAT, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING DOWN CAN HEAR THAT CAN YOU KNOW? I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO IT TWICE. WE HAD BROACHED THAT IDEAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT I 30 WENT DOWN THAT FAR, BUT IT DIDN'T. BUT YEAH, THEY'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS, AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR MAYBE A QUICK BRIEFING. AND MAYBE EVEN YEAH, PROBABLY JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND WHICH REALLY GOES INTO TWO QUESTIONS OF HOW WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA? AND HOW WOULD THIS CONTRIBUTE TO IT OR NOT? BUT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IF IT'S ALRIGHT WITH THE CHAIR IF WE HOLD THAT OVER AND DO THAT, AS PART OF THE AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, I DID READ THE WHOLE THING. WELL. THAT'S PRETTY INTENSE STUFF THAT THEY GO THROUGH. COMMISSIONER PARIS MY TWO QUESTIONS WERE ADDRESSED. ONE WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WANT TO BE SURE WE TOUCHED THAT AND THEN ALSO THE TRAFFIC. I KNOW THERE IS PRE EXISTING TRAFFIC AND THEN LAND USE DOES THAT FURTHER CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSION OF TRAFFIC RIGHT SO LONG AS THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED. THOSE WERE TO PAIN POINTS FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS TRAFFIC. AND THEN , OF COURSE NOT BEING NOTIFIED EARLIER ENOUGH TO GIVE INPUT SO THAT OUTREACH EFFORTS THOSE THOSE UPDATES, SO IF THAT'S GOING TO COME IN OUR LATER SESSION, THEN THAT'S GREAT. UM, I'LL WAIT FOR THAT TIME. ALRIGHTY YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I READ THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S THERE ALREADY AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, NO MATTER WHAT, AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THE MEETING. AND UM OUR TRAFFIC STAFF IS ALL ON BOARD WITH IT. AS FAR AS I KNOW, BIGGEST HICCUPS GOING TO BE TECH STOCK. GETTING THEM TO MOVE IN. ALLOWS US TO DO SOMETHING PROVE MINTS THAT ARE NEEDED. YES, THAT'S IT. HEY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THE

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YES, SIR. THANK YOU. IT'S MILLER ROAD CASE. YES, THE DISTRICT TO 13 50 EAST MILLER ROAD. YES I BELIEVE THEY'RE HAVING SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS CORRECT. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE SCHEDULED NEXT WEEK. YES THANK YOU FOR THE CASE, NEVER CLARIFICATION. OKAY, SO THE NEXT CASE IS Z 22-40. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTED TO MODIFY THE DESIGN OF AN EXISTING CELL TOWER. THERE'S A VERY SIMILAR REQUEST THAT WE SAW UM, COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK FEW MEETINGS AGO THAT WENT THROUGH PLAYING COMMISSION COUNCIL. IT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME APPLICANT CROWN CASTLE WHERE THEY'RE REMOVING A STEALTH FEATURE, UM, FOR THE ANTENNA EQUIPMENT. THE LOCATION IS 31 62 SATURN ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS CROWN CASTLE USA INC. AND UM, THE ZONING OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES COMMUNITY RETAIL, THERE IS AN EXISTING S U P FOR THIS TOWER. THERE WAS APPROVED IN 2007, AND IT ACTUALLY DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL 2037. THERE WAS A 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD. SO THIS IS NOT AN S U P RENEWAL PER SE. WHAT TRIGGERED IS AND AS AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF THE STEALTH FEATURE THAT WAS PART OF THE ORDINANCE IN THAT S U P SO THEY'RE MODIFYING THE DESIGN. THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY NEAR SATURN AND KINGSLEY ROAD ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. JUST BEHIND AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. AND MORE SPECIFICALLY SHOWN. HERE THIS KIND OF OUTLINES THE OVERALL PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, BUT THE ACTUAL CELL TOWER WE TRIED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT AND GRAY THERE, BUT IT'S BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER BUILDING. IN A ACCESS EASEMENT.

UM JUST AN F Y I. THE PRESENTATION ISN'T SHOWING UP AND SCREENS HERE SO LET'S SEE IF THAT WELL OKAY? DON'T WORRY. DON'T WORRY, WE'LL WE'LL JUST LOOK UP. THANK YOU. SURE AND FEEL FREE TO STOP ME IF I NEED TO BACK UP ON ANYTHING BUT AGAIN, THE EXISTING TOWER SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THIS EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SATURN AND KINGSLEY ROSE, LOCATED HERE BEHIND THE BUILDING. AND I'LL HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE. FEW SLIDES, BUT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SHOPPING CENTER AREAS. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WITH WHICH GENERALLY CORRESPONDS WITH LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES NEARBY. THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTATIVE SUPPORTIVE USE IN THAT IT WILL EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF CELLULAR SERVICE TO THE AREA. AND HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE TOWER. THIS IS AS IT EXISTS TODAY. AGAINST BEHIND THE BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THE STEALTH FEATURE THERE. THERE'S AN EXISTING EIGHT FT MASONRY SCREEN WALL SCREENING THE BASE OF THE TOWER THAT WILL REMAIN AND THEN THIS PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HERE IS LOOKING TO THE EAST. THERE'S A APARTMENT COMPLEX IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THEN THIS PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS SHOWING THE LOOKING EAST TOWARDS THE SHOPPING CENTER. YOU CAN SEE THE CELL TOWER. IN THE BACK. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 94 FT IN HEIGHT, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT. HERE'S THE ELEVATIONS THAT LEFT AS BEFORE OR EXISTING, IN OTHER WORDS, AND THE RIGHT IS AFTER SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STEALTH TOWER WILL BE OR STEALTH COMPONENT WILL BE REMOVED AND THEN ANTENNA EQUIPMENT WILL KIND OF MOVE TOWARDS THE TOP. AGAIN THE AFRICAN IS NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE HEIGHT. IT WILL REMAIN AT APPROXIMATELY 94 FT IN HEIGHT. THE ELEVATIONS REFLECT T MOBILE EQUIPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS PRIMARILY REPRESENTING T MOBILE AT THIS TIME, WHICH WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THIS REQUEST, BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THERE IS AN EXISTING CARRIER OF VERIZON ON THE TOWER, AND THEY WILL LIKELY CO LOCATOR CONTINUE TO CO LOCATE AS WELL, SO THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL CARRIER THERE.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE S U P TIME PERIOD, IN EFFECT FOR AN UNLIMITED TIME PERIOD. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICANT MADE A FEW MONTHS BACK. AND THIS IS THE REASON WAS. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RECENT GDC CHANGE WHERE CELL TOWERS NO LONGER HAVE TO, UM, ARE REQUIRED TO RENEW THEIR S U. P S SO LONG AS THE TOWER IS NOT EXPANDING IN SIZE OR HEIGHT AND THAT SORT OF THING, SO IT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THAT WHICH IN EFFECT MAKES THEM UNLIMITED ANYWAY. ESSENTIALLY UNTIL SUCH A CHANGE IS MADE, AND NO DEVIATIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT. THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, JUST TO READ A LITTLE BIT FROM THEIR REASONS FOR THE REQUEST. UM THEY ARGUE

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LIKE IF THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE. YES WE WOULD KNOW THAT THEY'RE MAKING A CHANGE. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY STILL GO THROUGH THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT FOR PERMITS. IF THEY'RE CHANGING OUT EQUIPMENT OR DOING SOMETHING WITH THE BASE OF THE TOWER, SO, YES, THEY STILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THOSE. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. BUT THEY DON'T COME BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR BUT THAT'S KIND OF IN A HIDDEN PART OF THE PARKING LOT OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE. IT'S PRETTY FAR FROM BOTH STREETS. I'VE SEEN IT AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIAMETER? YEAH YOU CAN SEE THAT BIG ARRAY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE TOP OF IT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROUGHLY MAKING IT ABOUT DOUBLE THE DIAMETER THAT IT WAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS LONG AS THEY PLAY WITHIN THE RULES SET UP BY THE S U P. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. IF THEY BREAK THOSE RULES, HEIGHT, WHATEVER. THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ACTUALLY WITHDRAW MY QUESTION, AND I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I HAD HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED NOW TWO OR THREE TIMES ALREADY. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE 20 TO 42. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CHANGE THE ZONING

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AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED AND THE APPLE CAN'T WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT SURE AT THIS TIME, WHETHER IT BE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR TWO. BUT NOT MORE THAN TWO HOMES. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. HOWEVER THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE MUST BE TWO ACRES AND THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY IS 1.72 ACRES, WHICH RESTRICTS THE APPLICANT FROM BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 30,000 SQUARE FEET LOT SIZE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANTS TO BUILD A MAXIMUM OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THIS IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR A DETAILED PLAN.

THE APPLICANT HAS CONFIRMED THAT IT WOULD BE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE STANDARDS IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT. AND WE MAILED OUT. 35 NOTIFICATION LETTERS. AND WE RECEIVED 21 LETTERS WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. AND TWO OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 23 RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER PARIS. ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR CLARIFICATION AND REVIEWING THE RESPONSES TO THE NOTIFICATIONS. THEIR RESPONSES WERE. WORD TOWARDS THE S F 10, RIGHT? NOT THE S F E. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALREADY THAT'S A LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK WE ARE IN RECESS. THANK YOU.

[Call to Order]

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[Items 3C & 3D]

THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT UNTIL OUR AUGUST 22ND MEETING, SO WE WILL NOT BE

[3g. Consideration of the application of BCC Engineering, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family-Estate (SF-E) District. This property is located at 1450 Todd Lane. (District 1) (File Z 22-42) (Part 1 of 2)]

AND WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE . OTHER SPEAKERS. WE ALLOWED THREE. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR GROUPS SUCH AS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME. AND THEN WE ASKED THE APPLICANTS BACK TO MAKE ANY RESPONSES AND AGAIN. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE WE'RE

[Consent Agenda]

AND IF ANY COMMISSIONER OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW AFTER I READ THEM OUT. ALREADY CONCERNED AGENDA ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL THE PLANNED COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE JULY 25 2022 MEETING. ITEM TWO A 22-19 STRIKER MARQUEE EDITION FINAL PLAN TO BE 22-20 LIONS CREST ESTATES NUMBER TWO FINAL PLAN. AND ANY COMMISSIONERS OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS ONE ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. SEEING NONE. CHAIRIL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, MR CHAIR. OKAY I THINK I HEARD EMOTION OUT OF COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO PROVEN A SECOND.

BABY. EXCUSE ME. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALBAN ALREADY. PLEASE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS. YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE HERE WE GO. IN THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

[Additional Item]

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THERE MIGHT BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT. BUT THERE, BUT IN THE SHORT, THAT'S A THAT'S A LONG TERM, PROUD. PROJECT THAT TEXT DOT HAS. AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, UM IS JUST TO MAKE SOME REALLY SOME RAMPING CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WILL HAPPEN ALONG. I 30. WHAT? WE'RE WHAT OUR PLAN IS AS A DEPARTMENT AS A CITY BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO IS TO GO APPROACH TEXT DOT WITH THIS PLAN , WHICH ESSENTIALLY WILL TAKE A RIGHT LANE RIGHT LANE OF THE FRINGE ROAD IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. AND MAKE IT A RIGHT TURN IN RIGHT, TURN OUT AT THAT. INTERCHANGE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE BACKUP IS FROM RIGHT NOW.

UM IN ORDER TO DO THAT. WE'LL NEED TO TAKE A LANE FROM FROM THE FRINGE ROADS TO DO THAT.

WE'VE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. WITH TEXT DOT THEY TYPICALLY BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE, BUT ANYTHING WE DO HERE BECAUSE IT IS ON TECH START RIGHT AWAY. WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TEXT AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVE IT IN ORDER TO DO IT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE DOING.

REGARDLESS IS GOING TO TEXT DOT AND REQUESTING THIS, THE OTHER. THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. HERE ARE LONG SIGN WROTE ITSELF THAT THAT BOTH INTERSECTIONS WITH THE LOOP ROADS. WHAT WILL BE DOING IS PULLING THOSE INTERSECTIONS IN TIGHTER THERE'S I KNOW THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS ARE IN ARE FAIRLY POOR CONDITION RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT, UM. PROPOSED UPDATES TO THOSE PAYMENT MARKINGS TO REALLY DELINEATE THE INTERSECTION A LOT BETTER. BRING IT IN A LOT TIGHTER TO WHERE FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IF I CAN DO THIS OR NOT. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM. THE FRONT ROAD HERE. COMING UP TO ZION AND MAKING A LEFT. UM YOU WOULD. YOU WOULD CROSS ESSENTIALLY ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND, OF COURSE, THE LEFT TURNS ONTO THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE A MUCH TIGHTER INTERSECTION. UM RIGHT NOW IT'S FAIRLY WIDE OPEN, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT. UM YOU'RE NOT SURE WHICH CARS ARE GOING STRAIGHT AND WHICH ONES ARE TURNING. UM THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE DOING RIGHT NOW. I CAN TELL YOU ALSO, THOUGH, IN THE FUTURE ONCE WE DO THIS, AND WE AS WE LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. UM WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT THOSE INTERSECTIONS THERE AS LONG AS I AND TO SEE IF THEY IF AN ALWAYS STOP OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND ALSO BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF THE MOTORISTS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS . SO WHAT? WELL, WE WON'T STOP WITH JUST THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT? WE WILL LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. UM SO THAT WE ADDRESS THAT WE ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE. HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNTIL WE MAKE SOME CHANGES. ALRIGHTY. AN. COMMISSIONER DALTON COMMISSIONER OPEN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION HERE FOR 10 PLUS YEARS. AND I RECALL SOMETIME IN THE PAST WHEN I WAS ON DISTRICT THREE IT WAS A CONVERSATION BETWEEN ME AND I BELIEVE THE COUNCILMAN CONCERNING TECH STOCKS PLANS BETWEEN. BELT LIKE BROADWAY, BELTLINE AND THE LIKE. THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING PLANNING ON FLIPPING THE BRIDGES. AND INTRINSIC TRICK RAMPS. SO MAKING 30 GO OVER ZION MAKING I ALREADY GO OVER ROSE HILL, MAKING I 30 GO OVER. BASS PRO. AND, OF COURSE, REVERSING THE ENTRY EXIT. LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF THE BOTTLENECKS THAT OCCUR. AT THIS TIME HAVE THEY JUST COMPLETELY PUT THAT ON THE BACK BURNER OR IS IT STILL IN THE LONG TERM PLAN? BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE LEVI ATE A LOT OF ISSUES ON ALL THREE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. AS OF RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THEY DO NOT HAVE HAVE PLANS TO DO THAT AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT AT ONE TIME THEY LOOKED AT, BUT THEY THEY HAVE CONSIDERED THAT THE THEY LOOKED AT THE BRIDGE ITSELF. UM AND. BECAUSE THE BRIDGES WAS REDONE RELATIVELY RECENTLY. UM

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THAT'S CORRECT. WIDENING. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBERT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. MR. LUCKY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM. BUT ITS HOMEWORK COMMISSIONER DALTON TALKED ABOUT. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FLIPPING THE STACK, WHICH IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT BASS PRO RECALL CORRECTLY AND THAT'S A IT'S A PRETTY MAJOR UNDERTAKING REVOLVES INVOLVES BASICALLY REMOVING THE CURRENT BRIDGING THAT'S THERE AND PUTTING ANOTHER. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN BATCH PRO ACCESS ACROSS 30 FOR SOME PERIOD SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME WHILE THEY DO THAT, RIGHT, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT SIX MONTHS IS THE MINIMUM AND THEY THAT'S THE LAST I HEARD, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT IT'S ABOUT A THAT ALONE IS GONNA TAKE 40 OR 51 NOW AND THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WAS 40 MILLION. SO THAT PROBABLY MEANS IT'S LIKE 120 MILLION NOW, THAT THAT YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THEY STARTED WENT TO 60. AND NOW MAYBE 80 $MILLION MILLION JUST TO DO ONE OF THESE BECAUSE THEY REALLY THEY HAVE WELL, THEY THEY HAVE TO COMPLETELY REBUILD ALL OF THE FREE WORLD. REALLY. YOU'RE BUILDING EVERYTHING THERE, FREEWAY FRONTAGE ROADS. ZION I MEAN, YOU WOULD. YOU WOULD HAVE TO REBUILD EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO FLIP THAT SO IT'S A VERY MAJOR MAJOR PROJECT. UM, THE CHANGES THAT YOU DISCUSSED UM, CREATING THE BASICALLY THE RIGHT TURN LANES AND WHAT I MEAN THINGS LIKE THE STRIPING IN TIGHTENING UP THE INTERSECTION THAT'S RELATIVELY EASY TO ACCOMPLISH. YEAH, BUT THE RIGHT TURN LANES. WHAT WOULD YOUR TIME WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WAIT UNTIL TEXT OUTCOMES THROUGH WITH THE I 30 REDO OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET DONE THE RIGHT TURN LANES ON HERE. THAT YOU? YEAH, THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO BASICALLY TAKING THE LINE OFF 30 AND EACH OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD TRIP. THAT'S ALL JUST STRIPING SO THAT WOULD THAT COULD BE DONE. DUE TOMORROW. WELL, YES, QUICKLY IN GOVERNMENT TIME, SO SOME TIME SOMETIME AROUND 2100 WITHIN WITHIN A FEW MONTHS. PROBABLY IT'S YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO WITH THE CONVERSATIONS WITH TECH START AND GETTING THEM TO AGREE. AND THEN YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN OUR SCHEDULE AND THEN YOU KNOW WE'RE INTO THE FALL, THEN YOU CAN'T DO PAPER MARKINGS IN WINTERTIME, SO IT JUST YOU KNOW IT COULD HAPPEN. REAL SOON, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE IN THE SHORT TERM MORE MORE LIKELY A LITTLE MORE TIME. UM AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM BUT REGARDLESS OF THAT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT THE IF IT DOES HAPPEN IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, YOU DO NOT EXPECT THE 300 SOMETHING ODD APARTMENTS TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON TRAFFIC EITHER WAY. NO I WOULD NOT. I MEAN, THAT'S A REALLY A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF CARS COMPARED TO WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. HE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE'VE HAD THIS KIND OF DIALOGUE YOU AND I HAVE BEFORE ABOUT SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN, BUT I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE KIND OF THE NUMERIC SAVITT AND TRIP GENERATION AND HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY THINK IT ADDS WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WELL, YES.

SO WHEN WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IF IT'S A LARGE ENOUGH PROJECT, THEY THEY'LL DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. LOOK AT, YOU KNOW THE ALL REALLY ALL OF THE IMPACTS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AS A DEVELOPMENT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA. WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DID IN THIS CASE. AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT THE TRACK YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS MADE. YOU KNOW IF IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS, IT MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY, THESE ROADWAYS CARRY YOU KNOW 2030 40,000 CARS A DAY SO IN IN, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PUT 300 MORE CARS ON A ROADWAY THAT'S CARRYING 20,000 CARS A DAY. IT'S BIG, PRETTY INSIGNIFICANT REALLY OVERALL, SR TIME AS WELL. NOT EVERYBODY LEAVES RIGHT? AND I GUESS

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THERE ARE RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO ADDRESS THEM. BUT IN TERMS OF THE WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF RIGHT, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY'RE NOT PROBLEMS THERE NOW. IN FACT, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS. BUT BUT THE SOLUTIONS TO THOSE ARE DIFFERENT FROM ANY PROBLEMS THAT WOULD BE CAUSED OR X ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT ON BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS. SIR WITH YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF DIRT NOW ZONED COMMERCIAL RETAIL. HOW THAT TRAFFIC IF THAT'S ALL FULLY DEVELOPED, LIKE IT COULD BE. I WOULD COMPARE TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU KNOW? ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONE. WORSE THAN THE OTHER. I BOUGHT THE SAME, BUT YEAH, RITA RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? OF COURSE. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL DO THIS BUT BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY, UH A COMMERCIAL COULD DEFINITELY CARRY UP OUR GENERATE A LOT MORE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT? ER THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS.

SO JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION. I KNOW A LOT WAS SAID IN TERMS OF THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU'VE DONE. JUST FOR CLARITY. WHAT CAN BE DONE NOW VERSUS WHAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE OF TEXT DOT SO THERE'S AN EXISTING PROBLEM EXISTING TRAFFIC PROBLEM WITH CONGESTION. AND THE IMMEDIATE.

I'M GOING TO USE THE TERMINOLOGY . QUICK FIXES BUT MEANING IT. YOU KNOW, NOT VERY LONG TERM, BUT NEAR THE END QUICK FIXES THAT CAN BE DONE NOW. CAN YOU JUST REITERATE WHAT THEY ARE? BECAUSE I KNOW TRAFFIC. IT WAS A HUGE CONCERN, REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN OR NOT , AND THEN DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAS , YOU KNOW, HEIGHTENED THE SENSE OF THE TRAFFIC. SO AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE SHORT TERM THAT THE CITY HAS CONTROL OF, AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S TEXT DOC THAT HAS TO DO A COMPONENT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS . SO CAN YOU JUST REITERATE THAT ONE MORE TIME? SURE THE WELL THERE'S REALLY. IN TERMS OF THIS INTERCHANGE, WHICH IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WHERE THE MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE. THIS THIS INTERCHANGE IS COMPLETELY WITHIN TECH START RIGHT AWAY, SO EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING WE DO HERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY TEXT DOT NOW, HAVING SAID THAT WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH TECH START BEFORE. AND WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. AND SO THEY THEY WOULD NEED TO APPROVE ANYTHING WE DID HERE. BUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE I FEEL LIKE COULD BE DONE IN A SHORT TERM. BASIS. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST GO OUT AND DO THIS. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND

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[Items 3A & 3B]

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AND SEE MULTIPLE SEATING AREAS THERE. TRY TO CREATE A SPACE FOR MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE CAN USE THIS SPACE AT ONCE. HERE'S THE DOG PARK. ADJACENT TO THE POND. AND THERE'S THAT WATERSIDE

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WHAT THE CITY AVERAGES. SO ANY OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT WE DID CONTRIBUTE, WE WOULD BE FINANCIALLY COVERING AS WELL. AND THEN LAND USE MENTIONED THAT PARKLAND WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAD ACCESS TO A PARK OFF TO THE EAST THAT WHEN GEORGE BUSH CAME IN, THEY WERE CUT OFF FROM THAT ACCESS. AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT OUR DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE COULD COLLABORATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IS THIS CITY OWNED LAND THAT IS NORTH OF US.

IT'S ABOUT TWO ACRES. AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY AND DISCUSSING WITH THEM ON HOW WE CAN MONETIZE THIS AREA TO PROVIDE A PARK AMENITY. BE IT AA GAZEBO, WHERE OPEN TO PROVIDING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS HERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROGRESS. THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY. FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT. UM. ONE THING AS WE DIG IN HERE WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS IMPACTFUL THAN OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS BEING AT A MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPER WHO CAME IN AND TRIED TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE OR A RETAIL OR OFFICE

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UM YOU HAVE LIONS AND BOB TOWN AS WELL AS BELTLINE THAT ARE THOSE LARGER ARTERIES THAT WERE INTENDED TO COLLECT THAT TRAFFIC AND SO TO SUM UP. WHAT WE SEE IS THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD THAT IS TAKING ON REGIONAL CAPACITY THAT IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO TAKE ON. AS WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION FURTHER. UM YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE ARE THE TWO TROUBLE SPOTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. STRIPING IS VERY POOR. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE STOP SIGN ON THE JUG HANDLES GETTING ON TO ZION ROAD. BUT ONCE YOU'RE ON ZION ROAD YOU ARE YOU'RE ABLE TO PROCEED NORTH AND SOUTH. VERY QUICKLY, WHICH MAKES THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT. TURN LANE FOR OUR RIGHT HAND. STOP SIGN VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE. MHM. AS WE DUG IN THE PATH THAT HAS SHOWN FOR THE RIGHT ARROW. THEY HAVE NO STOPS. ONCE THEY GET ON ZION, SO THEY CROSSED THAT BRIDGE COMING. 2030 MAYBE EVEN 40 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE LEFT.

TURN LIGHT, AND THEY'RE AT THE CIRCLE INTERSECTION. JUST IN THE PEAK HOURS. 225 PEOPLE MIGHT BE MAKING THAT RED LINE IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING AND THE PEAK HOUR ABOUT 275 PEOPLE ARE MAKING THAT PATH AND THEN THE BLUE PATH AS WELL, THAT'S THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THERE AS WELL. AND SO THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN LANE, WHICH ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT THEN WE'LL ALSO BE OUR RESIDENTS. THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE DOING THAT. AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT OUR STUDY, THEY MADE MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE FIRST ROUND OF RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO DO THE STRIPING, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY IS PURSUING, WHICH WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY ARE, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THAT THAT INTERSECTION WITHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT OPERATES AT AN F. UM IF THEY DO THE STRIPING THE AVERAGE DELAY AT THAT INTERSECTION ARE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ESTIMATES WILL BE CUT IN HALF. IF AND THAT IS WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT WITH THE STOP SIGN. THAT WILL ALSO BE CUT IN HALF AGAIN. AND SO THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO IF WE DID, UH, PURSUE PUTTING STOP SIGNS ON ZION ROAD TO SLOW DOWN THAT NORTH AND SOUTH TRAFFIC EVEN WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE DELAY OF WHAT IS BEING EXPERIENCED OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AGAIN. THE STRIPING THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING WOULD REDUCE THAT DELAY BY 50% ABOUT AND SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. AND THESE THINGS ARE ITERATIVE. AND SO IF STRIPING COMES FIRST, AND THEN STOP SIGNS COME AFTER THAT WE'D BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT TO SOLVE THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE HERE. UM BEFORE WE WRAP UP, DID WANT TO TOUCH ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT WOULD BE MULTIFACETED. WE WOULD IMPROVE THE TAXABLE VALUE OF THIS PARCEL BY OVER 30 TIMES AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO BE BRINGING A LARGE RENTER POPULATION INTO THE AREA THAT WILL BE HIGHER EARNING HIGH SPENDING, WHICH WILL YIELD THOSE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIRES AND THAT OUR RESIDENTS WILL DESIRE AS WELL. AND SO TO WRAP UP. JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE FAVORABLY FOR OUR REQUEST. HERE WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MR CHAIRMAN, UM. BUILDING ON THAT. THERE'S ALSO SOME PARK PLAN THAT THE I THINK IT'S CITY LAND. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS IT, BUT THERE'S A THERE'S AN OPEN SPACE TO THE EAST. THAT YOU'RE NOT DEVELOPING WITH YOUR PROJECT. IS THERE ANY WAY HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION AS TO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH PARKLAND? DID THEY HAVE ANY IDEAS? MAYBE OPENING UP SOME THAT, THAT THAT BRUSH AND MAKING THAT ALSO ACCESSIBLE . UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS OWNED AS TECH START RIGHT AWAY. AND SO IT'S A HUGE AREA. I PERSONALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE A COMMUNITY GARDEN OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TEXT ART, WHICH WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT APPROVAL PROCESS. IT'S INTERESTING CAUSE I WENT OUT THERE AND WALKED IT AND YOU COULD SEE THERE WAS A FIRE HYDRANT OUT THERE. AND THERE'S A AN OLD STREET LAMP. YOU CAN SEE. THE WIRING IS STILL OUT THERE. SO I GUESS IT WAS SOMETHING FROM THE PAST AND THE TOOK POSSESSION OF IT, I GUESS DID USED TO BE A PART OF AN OLD APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS PURCHASED WHEN GEORGE BUSH WAS PUT THROUGH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,

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WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE NEW RESIDENTS AND NEW HOMES OF TRAFFIC OF PULTE HOMES IS GOING TO BE FOR JUST BEING BUILT NOW WILL BE A YEAR YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THEY'RE OCCUPIED OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S GONNA IT'S GONNA BRING A WHOLE NEW, UH, ELEMENT THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HERE KNOW WHAT IT IS UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE IT. SAME THING GOES WITH THE QUICK TRIP THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN BAB TOWN. THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE GAS STATION IS ALREADY IN A CONGESTED AREA. WE'RE TALKING A LOT. WE'RE TALKING APPROPRIATELY ABOUT ZION AND THE WORK THAT IT NEEDS. BUT THE BOB TOWN I 30 INTERSECTION IS A MESS TIMES 10 VERSUS DIE ON, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT A HUGE MESS RIGHT NEXT TO US. THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. IF YOU WANT TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE LIVING HERE LIKE, SAID THE QUIET AREA IN NORTH ZION. AH THE RAMP THE BRIDGE. GOING NORTH ON ZION . YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE BRIDGE AND CARS ARE GOING FAST, SO IT YOU KIND OF MISS IT IN THE VISUALS AND THE PICTURES. IT LOOKS JUST FLAT. UH BUT BOTH WAYS CARS GO OPEN. THEY'RE GAINING SPEED. THEN THEY START COMING DOWN. UH, AND THAT'S UNSAFE. IT'S UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS. IT'S A SAFER, UM, THE CARS. AND THEN YOU ADD THE OTHER COMPONENT. THERE'S A TRUCK STOP. TRUCKSTOP 18 WHEELERS. THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT. THEY MOVE SLOWLY LIKE THEY COME TO STOP, AND THEN NOW THEY HAVE TO CROSS THESE FOUR LANES AND DESIRE ON AND THEY'RE CAUSING CONGESTION AND PEOPLE ARE BACKING UP AND IT'S UH WORST CASE, THERE COULD BE SOME MORE ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE CARS GOING ON. UH I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS. SOME WORRIED ABOUT US. YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, PULL BACK THE WINDOW IN FIVE AND 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE, AND IT'S GONNA COULD GET WORSE THAN WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW . AND I WANT A DEFINITELY TRAFFIC PLAN. I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW WHETHER THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS OR NOT DESIGN NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE AND DOESN'T NEED TO BE BIGGER TO ALLOW MORE CARS TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE NORTH. IT'S A DEAD END. AH AND THEN THE COURSE OF THE ISSUE

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THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. YEAH I'LL CALL OUT YOUR NAME. IF I KNOW A LOT OF YOU SPOKE LAST TIME IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN FIND IF YOU JUST WANT TO REITERATE YOUR POSITION. YOU CAN LET ME KNOW FROM THE AUDIENCE THERE, TOO. OKAY. UH, RON FORD. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. RON FORD, 47 33 4 SPRINGS COVE. UM LIKE MR FLORES JUST SAID MOST OF OUR ISSUES ARE WITH THE TRAFFIC ON ZION. I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL ISSUES WITH WHAT JL BEING PARTNERS IS TRYING TO DO ANYMORE. THEY'VE PROVED TO ME SATISFACTORILY THAT THEY INTEND TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. TO THOSE OF US WHO ARE THERE. I THINK THE POND AREA AND IF THE CITY APPROVES A PARK IN THAT SMALL AREA IN BETWEEN THE POND AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WOULD ALL BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THE CITY ON THAT. BUT ZIONISM MESS WE NEED HELP ON SCIENCE. THAT LEFT HAND TURN THAT WE ALL TALK THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THEY TALKED ABOUT IT IS DANGEROUS. I MEAN, I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY HOW MANY BUT A BUNCH YOU GOTTA TAKE YOUR CHANCES YOU SAY OKAY, THIS GUY'S COMING AT 40.

DO YOU SEE THIS GUY COMING AT 40 ? OKAY. WHICH ONE? AM I GOING TO DODGE OUT IN FRONT OF BECAUSE IT'S THAT SIMPLE. THAT IS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS THERE. TO WHAT ACCOUNT? I DON'T KNOW. THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS ON THE OTHER ONE. I'VE HAD ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS. A FRIEND OF MINE WAS IN IN ONE OF THE ACCIDENTS THERE. UM WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM. PEOPLE DON'T EVEN IGNORE THAT. I MEAN, THEY DON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE STOP SIGNS.

THEY DON'T BLOW RIGHT THROUGH. SO ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL ISSUES REGARDING JAIL. BE PARTNERS BUILDING. WELL, WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE AGREED TO HELP US GET THIS PARK INSTALLED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING BUILT THERE. I LIKE WHAT I SEE HERE. THESE GUYS REALLY PUT IT TOGETHER THE RIGHT WAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. MARRY TURN FOR A MOMENT. SURE. ASK ONE THING REGARDING REGARDING ZION ROAD.

UM WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AND NOW A NEW ONSLAUGHT OF TRUCKING TRUCKS ENDING UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS, THIS LITTLE TRUCK STOP THIS EXXON TRUCK STOP HERE. UM WE'VE HAD A USING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TURNED AROUND. THEY GET LOST. THEY DON'T KNOW THEY MAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT OF THAT PLACE. LOOKING TO GET BACK OUT ON THE FREEWAY. THEY END UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE DESTROYING OUR STREETS AND TAKE A TOUR OF ANY OF THE STREETS AND IN FOREST CREEK ESTATES, HYPERACTIVE STATES ANY OF THOSE THEY'RE COMING UNGLUED IN A HURRY. I DID SO, YEAH. REALLY BOTTOMED OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES. LET ME ASK HIM TRYING TO REMEMBER IS THERE I SAW SOME DEAD END SIGNS ON SOME OF THE STREETS. IS THERE ONE DIRECTLY BEYOND SMALL? THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO GET ANYBODY'S ATTENTION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE THERE THERE ARE DEAD END SIGNS. BUT IS THERE ONE DIRECTLY BEYOND THAT GAS STATION? MAYBE THAT GETS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. I THINK, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE DRIVE BEFORE YOU. YOU CAN SEE IT. I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I SEE SOMEBODY'S TAKING NOTES OVER THERE FOR US ALREADY LIKE TO SEE A BIGGER SIGN THERE THAT WARNING TRUCKS IN PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, UM AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WATERHOUSE. THANK YOU. ALREADY, UH YEP. UH MR TURNER SPEED AND THEN MS FLOWERS.

HI CRISTI, TURNIP SEED 4405 SCENIC CIRCLE, GARLAND. AND AGAIN. I JUST HAVE THIS MAJOR CONCERN WITH THE FACT THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN IT'S THE UNKNOWN, OF COURSE. BUT THE RENY BRING IN THE YOUNG. UM, HIPSTERS IF YOU WILL, SO TO SPEAK. NOT AS OLD PEOPLE, BUT THE ONES WHO MAKE THE 75,000 AND ABOVE. GOOD LUCK. WHO I HAVE MULTIPLE TEACHER FRIENDS THAT ARE THE YOUNG ONES THAT ARE ALL FLOCKING TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE HIGH RISES ARE.

THAT'S WHERE THE HAPPENING SCENE IS. THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING HERE, BUT PEOPLE WALKING DOGS AND ON CANES. SO I DON'T SEE SOMEONE PAYING $3000 A MONTH TO LIVE IN A TOWN HOME THAT YOU

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WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO PARK OUT FRONT AND BLOCK ZION ROAD? IS THERE A TOWING GOING TO BE ENFORCES THEIR SIGNS GONNA BE PUT UP THAT SAYS TOWING ENFORCED IF YOU PARK HERE BECAUSE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY OH, I'M ONLY GONNA BE HERE FOR A MINUTE AND RUN INTO C THIS NEIGHBOR REAL QUICK AND THEN END UP STAYING 5 10 2030 MINUTES. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A BLOCKED ROAD. AND IT'S ONLY TWO LANES. MY NEXT CONCERN IS IF THESE DO NOT RENT WHAT IS OUR LONG TERM FUTURE GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE LOOKING AT SECTION EIGHT, OR IS THIS A POSSIBILITY? BECAUSE FRANKLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT. I DIDN'T BUY A HOME IN THIS AREA 11 YEARS AGO TO HAVE TO SUDDENLY DRIVE THROUGH SECTION EIGHT HOUSING TO GET HOME. AND MY FEAR IS THIS IS GOING TO SIT NOT COMPLETELY RENTED OR AND WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH SOME SECTION EIGHT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T UNLOAD IT ON ANY OTHER WAY. THE TRAFFIC IS ALSO AN ISSUE. THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS. I AM ONE OF THOSE COMMUTERS THAT GOES OVER THE BRIDGE TO THE SOUTH SIDE. YOU BETTER LEAVE 30 MINUTES EARLIER. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT OTHERWISE. AND I'M LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE. I HAVE SEEN. AN INCREASE FROM THE TRUCK STOP WENT IN AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF 18 WHEELERS. THEY'RE USING OUR POOR LITTLE ZION ROAD. OOPS I MADE THE WRONG TURN.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING RIGHT THERE FOR THEM TO SAY. THAT'S A DEAD END. DO NOT GO THAT WAY. AND THIS FLASHING SOMEBODY JUMPS OUT SLAPS THEM OR SOMETHING. BUT THEY NEED SOMETHING TO LET THEM KNOW THEY CANNOT GO THAT WAY. THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO NOWHERE. HONESTLY THE POND THEY CAN'T TOUCH ANYWAY, IT'S WETLANDS. GUIDELINES IS PREDICTED BY THE EPA. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO THE AMENITIES ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON THERE. THEY CAN'T GO ANY CLOSER TO THE WATER. IT'S NOT FOR US, SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT US. IT'S ONLY GOING TO AFFECT THE ECOSYSTEMS AND THE HABITATS OF THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE.

WHICH IS GOING TO WHEN THEY START BUILDING RUN ALL THE LITTLE FIELD RATS AND MICE OUT.

NOT TO MENTION A BOBCAT OR TWO THAT MIGHT BE STUCK UP IN THERE, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE COYOTES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING. THEY'RE PERFECTLY HAPPY IN THOSE WOODS. AND THAT'S THEIR ECOSYSTEM AND THEIR HABITAT. AND NOW WE'RE FIXING TO DISTURB THAT. SO I AM VERY OPPOSED TO THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS FLOWERS AND THEN MR TURNIPS SEAT. FLOWERS WILL BE SPEAKING.

HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I DON'T KNOW. SPEAK VERY GOOD ENGLISH, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY. I LIVE IN 46 18 CANDLESTICK DRIVE. AND MY SON OVER HERE. HE LIVES. UM WAS YOUR ADDRESS, ERIC. THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE VERY FRONT OF THE WHERE THEY TRYING TO BUILD THIS APARTMENT.

SO MY CONCERN IS THE SAME THING, THE LADY SAYS. WHEN PEOPLE COMES AND VISIT THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO THEY HAVE PARKING SPACE FOR THEM , OR THEY CAN PARK ON CYAN, AND THEY CAN BRING A LOT OF TRAFFIC LIKE, SHE SAID. THAT'S MY CONCERN. HE LIVES IN THE FRONT, MY SON. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UH, JOHN TURNIP. SEE NOPE. OKAY. UM SAYS YOU'RE AGAINST PASSAGE. I WILL NOTE THAT AND, UH, LOSE DEVELOP. HELLO MY NAME IS LORENZO PEREZ ARE LIVE IN 46 18 CANDLESTICK. I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURE OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO BUILD AH, MY CONCERN IS GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY THERE. AH RIGHT. THERE IS A CASKET BRIDGE ALREADY BUILDING THIS NICE HOUSES. THAT'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC THERE ALREADY. ACROSS THE FREEWAY. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY GOT A LOT OF NEW APARTMENTS. AND UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. THEY HAVE TO GO TO EITHER THEY GO TO DALLAS. THEY'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH OUR LITTLE GROWTH RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ALREADY, PLUS THE 300 APARTMENTS THAT THEY TRY TO BUILD. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ALREADY FOR US. AND LIKE, THE LADY SAYS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ANIMALS MOVING OUT OF THOSE WOODS. THAT IS TRUE. AND, UH, THAT'S MY CONCERN. I'M AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, YES, ZAVALA.

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IT'S ONE PERSON. SO IF YOU GIVE THAT PERSON WOULDN'T VEHICLE AND THEN YOU CAN ADD 100 SQUARE FEET FOR A SECOND PERSON, SO YOU GIVE THAT PERSON ANOTHER ANOTHER. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT VEHICLE? IF IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 100 SQUARE FOOT, YOU CAN GET ANOTHER PERSON IN THERE, SO IT'S THREE PEOPLE IN WHATEVER. SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT IS SO YOU INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES UM, THAT IS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR ME NOW. I WAS TOLD THERE'S TWO VEHICLES PER I GUESS. TWO BEDROOMS. UM IT I MEAN TO TWO PARKING SPACES PER 2 TO 2 BEDROOMS IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

YOU'RE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE LIMIT ON THE PARKING SPACES BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE APARTMENT. YOU CAN HAVE X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THERE AND YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO BEDROOMS. YOU CAN HAVE TWO VEHICLES THAT DOESN'T ADD UP PRETTY QUICK. I MEAN, GOOD AT ALL. I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE, UM. OF COURSE, I GUESS TECH START HAS TO ASSIST FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT. WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? IT'S BEEN PUT OFF FOR SO MANY YEARS. SO IF YOU GIVE THE OKAY FOR THIS BUILDING TO I MEAN THESE DEPARTMENTS TO BE BUILT TECH START CAN TAKE ANOTHER 10 YEARS. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. ALSO HAD A CONCERN ON WHAT IS THE LOAD ON THAT BRIDGE. WHAT IS IT HOLD? HAS ANYBODY DONE ANY KIND OF STUDY ON THAT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GOING BY THE STUDY OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. BUT WHAT ABOUT NOW? WHAT IS THE HOLD ON THAT BRIDGE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT BRIDGE. UM ANOTHER THING THE OUTLETS SO WE'RE GOING DOWN ZION. IS THERE ANY SIGNS THAT SAYS LOCAL TRAFFIC THERE? I HAVEN'T SEEN A SIGN. IT'S FURTHER DOWN, PROBABLY MAYBE FROM WATERHOUSE.

THREE BLOCKS, UM INTO ZION. I'VE ONLY SEEN ONE. IT'S DONE. IT'S NOT RIGHT AT THE STOP AREA WHERE ZION AND WATERHOUSE'S THAT SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC COMING OUT AND THERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VISITORS AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH AND THINKING THAT THERE'S AN OUTLET OUT THERE, AND THERE'S NOT AN OUTLET OUT THERE, SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT THEY NEED TO ADD ON THAT. UM THE INCOME. I'M WITH THE LADY HERE WHO IS GOING TO PAY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR ANCHOR FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WALKING DISTANCE.

RESTAURANTS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MALLS. ANYTHING THAT'S CLOSE BY THAT YOU CAN ATTRACT THESE PEOPLE SO THEY CAN LIVE IN A HIGH RISE BUILDING AND THEY CAN BE ABLE TO WALK TO THESE FACILITIES. IT'S JUST NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GRAB THESE PEOPLE AND BE ABLE TO LEASE OUT THESE APARTMENTS? IF YOU HAVE BACON UNITS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE YOUR MONEY OFF OF THIS? ARE YOU GOING TO GO LIKE, SHE SAID. SECTION EIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? DROP THE PRICES ON IT. YOU'RE GOING TO NOW HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE. AND SO I'M NOT WITH IT SO AGAIN. UM I CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY HAD THE GENTLEMAN COULDN'T TELL ME WHY I GRABBED IT. OFF OF THE INTERNET. UM OFF THE CITY WEBSITE, AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WAS UPDATED BACK IN MAY 26TH 2020 AND IT SAYS THE 24 HOUR TRAFFIC VOLUMES. UM, THAT WHAT IT SAYS ON HERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S ACCURATE. IT ALSO GIVES A DATE OF WHEN IT WAS DONE . PLEASE THANK YOU. I'M SORRY UP. YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE OVER.

OKAY WELL, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SAY IT. SO THIS IS BACK IN APRIL OF 21. THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS BACK ON MAY 4TH OF 2022. IT SAYS THAT IT'S A TOTAL VOLUME OF 1636. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE, BUT IT'S ONLINE. AND SO I AM REQUESTING YOU GUYS TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM TO DO ANOTHER STUDY WHEN I WAS AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK, UM I ASKED ABOUT IT, HE SAID IT WAS DONE IN FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY WAS A FREEZING MONTH, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE AT THAT TIME, SO I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND ASK TO DO ANOTHER STUDY. YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO THE TEST IX THAT WE'RE DONE. A FEW YEARS BACK. I'M SORRY STUFF IS STARTING TO GET BUILT THERE AND THEN NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PULTE HOMES, TOO. THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE ANOTHER AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. SO AGAIN, PLEASE, I'M I'M AGAINST IT COMPLETELY. I'M NOT FOR IT, AND I THINK WE

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THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTIONABLE HERE. TO PUSH IT THROUGH NOW. IF WE REDO THE ROAD IF WE REDO THIS IF WE GUARANTEE OR GUARANTEED WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY IS GOING IN THERE? BEYOND ANY QUESTION WILL SHADOW OF A DOUBT. THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OR A ROADWAY THAT ISN'T ALREADY COMPLETELY OVERRUN. AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES COULDN'T EVEN GET IN THERE. THE LAST TIME WE HAD A PROBLEM, I WAS THERE FOR THE TORNADO. MY TIME IS UP. YEP I JUST HOPE I GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT WOULD KNOCK THIS DOWN. SORRY, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IN, UH, KIM COCOA'S. OUR DECLINE. OKAY? UH, JEFF WILSON. I'M JUST SCARED. PARDON? PARDON? OKAY SHOW THAT MR WILSON'S AGAINST CAN RICHARD WRITER. SORRY FOR MISPRONOUNCING NAMES, BUT I DO HAVE A MASTER, ISN'T IT? KEN RACER 41 30 CARRINGTON. I LIVE IN THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON. THAT'S GARLAND'S, UM, 543. I HEAR A LOT OF THE NAYSAYERS TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONALS MAKE THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE TRAFFIC PEOPLE HAVE HAVE GONE OVER THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES IMPROVING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT, AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC. NOW THE PULTE HOMES COMING IN THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME THROUGH THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO COME THROUGH THE OTHER SIDE, THEIR ENTRANCES OFF OF 30. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOWN ZION THEIR ENTRANCES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OF THE OF ZION ROAD. GOOD. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WIDEN BET, AS I SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME AFTER WIDEN WELLINGTON. UM AS FAR AS ANY OF THE OTHER CONCERNS. I THINK IF WE REALIZE THE BOTTOM LINE IS HERE, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUILD THEIR DO WE WANT IT TO BE A JIFFY LUBE? DO WE WANT IT TO BE A CAR WASH WHO WANTED TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON THEIR VEHICLES? I DON'T I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PLANS. COME

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NOLAN JOHNSON. 46 10 SPINNAKER COVE. UM I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS THE REST OF MY NEIGHBORS. HAVE I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO IN AND SAY I'M FOR IT. UM THE REASON IS THAT I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING IS GOING TO GET BUILT THERE. AND YOU KNOW THERE ARE PLANS DO LOOK GOOD. I DO APPRECIATE THEM, SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARK. UM, I DID TALK TO A FEW KIDS.

THEY WERE INTERESTED IN A BASKETBALL. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THEY WANTED SOMEBODY ALBUMS THE BASKETBALL, WE USUALLY GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO PLAY. UM MY ONE CONCERN IS ALSO IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN. I KNOW. THEY SAID THAT THEY DID A STUDY AND THEY WILL BE SO MANY KIDS. BUT IF THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A WALKWAY TO GO TO WALK TO SCHOOL. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANYTHING THERE. UM, AS WELL AS MY PARENTS LIVE AT THE END OF ZION THERE IN THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. RIGHT. THEY GOT SAFETY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SELL THEIR HOUSE. BUT THE TRUCKS DO COME OVER THAT WAY. WE DO HAVE A SIGN. BUT IT'S TOO FAR DOWN THE STREET. AND SO BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE, YOU'RE ALREADY STUCK . SO IF THERE WAS A SIGN THAT WAS CLOSER, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP SOME OF THAT. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN OVER THERE FOR A WHILE. MY PARENTS BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. I KNOW THAT THIS SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE THERE. I REALLY WOULD PREFER SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE TO BRING BRING HIGH VALUE, UM RESIDENTS, SO THAT'S THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER. I HAVE LISTED BEFORE I BRING THE APPLICANT BACKUP. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN HIS OWN COMING DOWN?

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE HONORABLE LAURIE DODSON AND I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE LITTLE NEW KIOSKS AND THERE WERE NO CARDS, BUT I'LL FILL ONE OUT. YOU WERE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING IN THE KIDNEY RENT. I'VE GOT FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH 600 APARTMENTS, WHICH I'M CLOSER TO THAN MANY OF THE HOMES HERE AND I THINK THEY'RE 90 95% RENTED AT 1700 BUCKS AND ABOVE AND. AND I DRIVE BY DURING THE MORNING HOURS AND A VERY FEW KIDS WAITING FOR BUSSES. SO AND I HAVE RECENTLY READ, UH, A STUDY THAT SAYS. DFW AREA WILL NEED 19,000 NEW APARTMENTS EVERY YEAR NOW THROUGH 2035. NOW WITH THAT HOLDS UP OR NOT, BUT THAT'S A

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WITH PICTURES OF ALL THE APARTMENTS AND YES, WE DO NEED KATHLEEN JENNINGS 46 41 LEMON TREE LANE 41 YEARS THERE AND SO I HAVE SEEN ALL OF IT FOR 40 YEARS. UM. SO I READ THE STATISTICS, AND THIS IS FROM APARTMENTS. SMART DATA. BUT THEN I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST SHOW THEM THIS TIME. SO JUST A FIVE MILE RADIUS FROM LEMON TREE. 112 PROPERTIES 18,190 UNITS, THREE MILE RADIUS AND ONE MILE RADIUS . YES WE NEED MORE. THERE. ARE PEOPLE MOVING HERE. BUT FROM.

BROADWAY TO BASS PRO. WE HAVE 11 GAS STATIONS WITH CONVENIENCE STORES TO OUR TRUCKING, OR MAYBE MORE. SPECIFICALLY FOR TRUCK, TRUCKING TRUCKERS AND VEHICLES. SO WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF THOSE. UM AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE APARTMENT UNITS IN OUR AREA. AH I DRIVE OUT ON THE SERVICE ROAD. REPUBLIC EAST. WHICH IS ALSO REPUBLIC WEST 840 UNITS. AH VERY POORLY TAKEN CARE OF RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. DUMPSTERS FULL OF TRASH. I'M NOT SAYING J L B IS ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M JUST SAYING. IS THAT THE BEST PLACE FOR IT? WE ALREADY ARE OVERLOADED WITH APARTMENTS ON THE I 30 CORRIDOR BETWEEN BROADWAY AND BASS PRO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALREADY LET ME ASK THE APPLICANTS BACK UP. THEN LET'S SAY SOMEBODY ELSE. SOMEBODY STEPPED UP. COME ON DOWN, SIR. OH, JUST LETTING HER SIT DOWN, OKAY? WITH THE LIGHTS. I CAN'T NECESSARILY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. JEFF PATTON AGAIN. I'M GONNA RESPOND IN THE MAXWELL WRAP US UP, UM, TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE RAISED PARKING FIRST OFF, WE WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 615 SPACES. WE ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING 639 SPACES. 75 ADDITIONAL SPACES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT PARKING COUNT. WHICH WILL ACT AS A PARKING SPACE BEING A TANDEM SPOT BEHIND OUR TUCK UNDER GARAGES. SO IF YOU WERE IN A TUCK UNDER GARAGE, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO AN ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 639 NUMBER. EXCUSE ME. WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? 114 75 75 75 THE POND. IT IS NOT A WETLAND. WE HAVE A WETLAND. CERTIFICATION LETTER STATING THAT IT IS NOT A WETLAND AND SO BY RETAINING THAT POND WE ARE DOING SO SIMPLY BECAUSE WE THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. EMERGENCY SERVICES . I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE HORROR OF STANDING AND WATCHING THAT HAPPENED TO YOUR OWN HOME. I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE INCREASED TAX BASE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS BRINGING WHICH IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT WILL DO ITS PART TO FUND THOSE EMERGENCY SERVICES. AND SO I THINK THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY BE A NET POSITIVE. IN THAT HORRIFIC SITUATION AND THEN RINSE. UM CARL TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION. STARTING RENTS WILL BE AROUND 1400 TO $1500. AND SO WE WILL HAVE NO, UM AFFORDABLE UNITS OR NO LOW INCOME UNITS. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT WILL BE 100% MARKET RATE. AND THEN FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS. WE REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS WHERE THE HIGH QUALITY PROPOSED USE MEETS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. WE DO ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE HERE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SO APPROVING US WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT, ADDITIONALLY, AS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COLLABORATION, IT WAS GREAT. I SAW A LOT OF NEW FACES HERE THIS EVENING THAT WEREN'T AT THE FIRST PLAN COMMISSION HEARING OR AT THE SUBSEQUENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WHICH TO ME SAYS THAT THOSE THAT DID ATTEND THOSE HURT

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WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING NO PARKING ON ZION ROADS. BUT ALONG I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU'D NEED. BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING SOME OF THOSE UP? SO AS VISITORS COME IN? OH, I CAN'T PARK HERE. I THINK THAT'LL PROBABLY BE PART OF TRAFFIC STUDENTS TO REVIEW THAT AND DO THAT, IF WELL, YEAH, BUT BUT THE DEVELOPER MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THOSE UP. I'M ASKING , WE WOULD BE OPEN TO DOING WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. I WOULD NOT WANT TO PEPPER THE STREETSCAPE WITH NO PARKING SIGNS. REALLY. I REALLY WANT TO RETAIN THE QUALITY FEEL OF THAT STREETSCAPE. BUT IF IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT COMES UP AS SOMETHING THE CITY WANTS, WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT. ALREADY. THANK YOU. MAXWELL.

LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ADDRESSED ONLY ONE I THINK THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WE DID, UM, CONTEMPLATED ALL THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE KNOWN PROJECTED THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING PULTE HOMES, SO THAT WAS ALL TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION WHEN OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS, UM, COMPLETED. I THINK THEY EVEN TOOK THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND ADDED THE 1.9 ADDITIONAL FACTOR FOR COVID BECAUSE, HE SAID TRAFFIC WAS LESS DUE TO COVID.

SO THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL COUNT IN THERE, ASSUMING SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T DRIVING ANYMORE.

OK, OK, COME QUESTION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS HAS A QUESTION. MR FISHER. TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE FIRST YOU JUST STATED IN EFFECT THAT. YOU WOULD. THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONTEMPLATED THESE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT YOU WENT AHEAD AND, UM IF THAT FIGURED OUT THE BEST WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS BASED UPON A FUTURE PLAN. EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T NEED TO DO THAT, RIGHT? WELL YOU KNOW WHEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT OR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DOESN'T ANALYSIS THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TRY TO CAPTURE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S KNOWN SO THEY ACTUALLY CAN EVALUATE WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS WILL BE. ALL THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO KNOW WHAT SORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE. UM AS PART OF THEIR ANALYSIS. OKAY UM , THIS NEXT QUESTION IS ACTUALLY I KNOW YOUR BACKGROUND IS DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY, UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT MAY IN THE FUTURE BE POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY RETAIL IN TERMS OF HEARD A COMMENT ABOUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AREA. UM ARE IS RETAIL DEVELOPED FIRST OR IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FIRST? I GUESS IT'S THE KIND OF QUESTION DEPENDS ON THE SCENARIO. BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMON RULE IS THAT RETAIL FOLLOWS ROOFTOPS SO IN ORDER FOR A RETAILER TO JUSTIFY BUILDING A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING, PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY AT THE AMAZON EFFECT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY BY A

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THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS HIGHER END AND A BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE COME UP BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT POPULATION NEARBY IN THAT SUB MARKET THAT WOULD WANT TO USE THAT, UM THAT RETAIL PROSPECT OKAY? AND. YOU YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH GOP FOR THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS ABOUT RIGHT? YES IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER, I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING EIGHT PROJECTS A YEAR, THEY DO. THREE. WHY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT? IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THE TIME IN DETAIL AND THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THEY SPEND ON ONE PROPERTY THEY INVEST A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND DESIGN. UM AND JUST THE CITY MEETINGS THAT WE HAD STARTED BACK TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. UM AND WHEN THEY HIRED US, THEY HIRED US SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE WE WOULD EVEN SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. TYPICALLY WE WOULD BE HIRED, UM, RIGHT BEFORE THE APPLICATION, SO I GOT TO SEE THE ENTIRE DESIGN OF THIS PROPERTY, AND IT'S SO TYPICALLY, DEVELOPERS WOULD SPEND, I WOULD SAY 30 TO 40% LESS TIME T TO EVEN GET TO HEARING AND WORKING WITH J. L B FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THIS PROJECT. IT WAS JUST AMAZING HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS THIS DESIGN AND THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THE CITY AND SO FORTH. UM AND WE JUST FAILED ON THE ASPECT OF MEETING WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH WE BELIEVE WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS RECENTLY . BUT THE MERITS OF THIS REQUEST AND THE AND THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPER UM IT WILL RIVAL ANYTHING IN GARLAND, INCLUDING ANYTHING IN FIRE WHEEL OR THE RECENTLY APPROVED LINE WITH STRUCTURE PARKING THAT I WORKED ON AT BELTLINE IN GARLAND AVENUE . THEN THIS IS UP THERE WITH THAT THE BEST DEPARTMENTS IN GARLAND. THIS ISN'T HUD FINANCE PROPERTY IS IT WILL BE MARKET RATE TOP OF THE MARKET, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT LIKE TECH PROPERTY.

CORRECT IT WILL IT WILL. IT WILL BE. NO MAYDAY. NO, OKAY. IN SHORT, THERE'S NOTHING IN YOUR OPINION AT THIS POINT WOULD INDICATE THAT THIS WOULD BECOME LOW INCOME HOUSING AT SOME POINT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT, UM THIS PROPERTY WILL LIKELY IT WILL. IT WILL BE BUILT AS A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IT WILL APPRECIATE AND IF IT'S EVER SOLD , EVEN THOUGH J. L B WILL WILL. IF THEY HAVE A MANAGEMENT SECTION THEY PLAN ON MANAGING THIS IF IT'S EVER SOLD, IT WILL SELL FOR 30 TO 40% ABOVE WHAT IT COSTS OR WHAT THEY HAVE IN IT, SO WHOEVER BUYS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE EQUITY GROUP THAT WANTS TO MAINTAIN OR PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT MENTIONED THIS OWNER OPERATED OR OWNER MANAGED PROPERTY. WHY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT AS OPPOSED TO JUST SOMEBODY BUILDING IT AND THEN SELLING IT? WHAT? WHAT'S WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT REALLY DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE MANAGING IT. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A J L G L B OWNS DEVELOPS, MANAGE IT. THEY KNOW HOW TO MANAGE PROPERTY AND THEY KNOW IT'S JUST A COMPREHENSIVE, INTEGRATED APPROACH THAT, UM ALLOWS FOR THEM TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. YOU CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL J L B. THEY'RE LOCAL. THEY'RE NOT CALLING UP SOME LARGER GROUP THAT'S FAR AWAY. AND EVEN IF YOU DID, THOSE GROUPS ARE REALLY LARGE, AND THEY CUT THE GRASS MORE THAN THEY SHOULD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. THEY HAVE A VERY EXPENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO ENSURE THEIR THEIR INVESTMENT STAYS UP OR APPRECIATES. IN FACT, IT HAS TO APPRECIATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO MEET THEIR INVESTOR NEEDS. SO THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE OF GRB IS TAKING AT THIS POINT IS THAT NOT ONLY WERE THERE NOT ONLY AS A MANAGER INVESTMENT WITH THE VALUE APPRECIATE OVER TIME, BUT THEIR WILLINGNESS TO DO. IT ALSO INCLUDES A WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY TO BE CERTAIN THAT THIS HAPPENS IS THAT KIND OF A GOOD SUMMATION. THAT WOULD BE INACCURATE SUMMARY. OKAY THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS OKAY? COUPLE COUPLE QUESTIONS AND THIS

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QUICK ACCESS FOR RETAILERS FOR CONVENIENT, SO IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THE CUSTOMERS, BUT TO YOU HAVE TO HAVE VERY HIGH TRAFFIC COUNTS. I THINK WAS ILLUSTRATED EARLIER. YOU DON'T HAVE HIGH TRAFFIC COUNTS ON ZION ROAD WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER OTHER ROADS, AND IN GARLAND AND DFW.

IT'S VERY LOW, SO YOU YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OR ACCESS THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP A RETAIL BUILDING FIELD. MAYBE YOU FIND A FEW RETAILERS THERE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEW, THEY END UP TAKING TAKING A VERTICAL MIXED USE, UM , RETAILS FOR GRAND FOUR SPACE, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THOSE GO DARK IF THEY'RE NOT DONE IN A LOCATION THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A RETAIL OR LONG TERM. ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. IN THE REGARD OF MIXED USE. IF RESIDENTS. ARE COMING, SO IT MAKES USE IS WHAT I'M THINKING IS THE RETAIL BROTHERS RETAIL GROCERY STORE, OR, UM, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? UM RESTAURANTS. UM BUT WITH THE ADDITIVE OF MULTI FAMILY, THE THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT THE MULTI FAMILY WOULD PATRONIZED THOSE BUSINESSES, RIGHT? IS THERE ANY IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AND RESEARCH ? IS THERE ANY? CAN YOU EXPOUND UPON THAT IMPACT? YEAH WELL, TWO THINGS IN THIS, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ALWAYS CORRECT ON EVERY PROPERTY. IT'S JUST A GUIDE. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF IT MURDERED VERTICAL MIXED USE WAS APPROPRIATE HERE.

YOU PROBABLY SEE THAT AS PART OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

ACKNOWLEDGE THE ZONING WAS COMMERCIAL HERE, AND THEY SAID NO, THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE URBAN LIVING. UM SO EVEN I THINK THE WHOEVER THE CONSULTANT WAS IT DID ACCOMPLISH, MAN AND THEN STAFF SAW THAT WHEN THEY UM, ENACTED THE LATEST COPY PLAN. UI MEAN THAT THAT CONCEPT ON THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTS. THE RETAIL COMPONENT IS TRUE, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE THAT WITH THE TRANSITORY IN DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU HAVE VERY HIGH DENSITIES WHERE DENSITIES OR SOMEWHERE 40 TO 70 80 UNITS, AN ANCHOR WHERE YOU HAVE A VERY HIGH CRITICAL MASS, AND THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE YOU START SEEING YOU SEEING UPTOWN AND NEAR DOWNTOWN . SOME OF THE TRANSIT ORIENT STOPS IN PLANO. WE HAVE FIVE STORIES, UM, YOU KNOW, OR PODIUM FOR THE PODIUM. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL, UM I GUESS A SERIES OF MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS WHERE YOU HAVE HIGHER DENSITY. THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE WE HAVE ABOUT 18 UNITS AN ACRE. UM, EVEN IS URBAN AND A LOT OF WAYS IN THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED IN THE GOOD WAYS. UM BUT OVERALL, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF SAME SITUATION AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT A LARGER RETAIL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK, ALRIGHT? WE'RE READY, COMMISSIONER ALBAN. THINK. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. A MYSTERY. I JUST SAID JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION AS WE TALKED ABOUT UM MIXED JUICE AND WHATNOT. WE'VE SOME MIXED USE HAS BEEN DONE IN THE CITY. IN FACT, SOMETHING WAS DONE RIGHT HERE. WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THAT AS AH, SUCCESSFUL OR FAILED, OR HOW

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DID I TRY WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS, BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALONG THE MAIN ROAD THAT MIGHT BE SOME PAD SITES AND OTHER STUFF A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF MIXED USE, REALLY. RETAILERS ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH CONVENTIONAL HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU HAVE THE RETAIL PAD OUT FRONT. PARKING IS ALL ACCESSIBLE. THE DEVELOPMENT THE BUILDING IS ALL CAN BE SOLD ON ITS OWN. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH VERTICAL MIXED USE THAT UM YOU GOTTA FIND SOMEONE WANTING TO DO COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL. I MEAN, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL WITH ONE DEVELOPMENT, SO SURE. AND THIS AREA IS AS FAR AS COMMUNITY RETAIL. I MEAN, IT'S NOT YOUR GENERAL OPINION THAT I MEAN, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE RETAIL WITH THIS AREA, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN IT ALREADY, OR YOU'RE POTENTIALLY I MEAN, THE SELLER LAND OLDER DID HOLD THE LAND, BUT THEY ONLY CAUSE THEY RECEIVED IS FROM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS. AND WHEN GEORGE BUSH CAME IN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SERVICE ROAD ACCESS TO THE SITE, NO GOOD, QUICK CONNECTION. IT'S NOT A GOOD RETAIL SITE. EVEN IF YOU FORCE RETAIL HERE, THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HATE IT BECAUSE IT WOULD GO DARK AND IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM AND NO ONE WOULD MAINTAIN IT. SO 20 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE LIKELY GOING TO HAVE A REALLY NICE APARTMENT. STILL YOU HAD RETAIL THERE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE. UM BUT IF WE DO, BUT ADDING ROOFTOPS YOU MENTIONED ADDING ROOFTOPS. RETAIL FOLLOWS THE ROOFTOP SO ADDING MORE ROOFTOPS TO THE AREA WOULD IMPROVE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL, THEN AT ANOTHER LOCATION, LIKE AT ROSE HILL OR OR WHATEVER. OKAY? RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM I'VE GOT ONE FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER ROSE'S COMMENTS, WHICH WERE BASED OFF OF A GOOD COMMENT FROM CITIZENS ABOUT PARKING ALONG ZION. I'M LOOKING AT THE DETAILED PLAN OR THE TOWN HOMES ARE, UM, TWO BUILDINGS DIDN'T NORTH. NONE OF THOSE SIDEWALKS GO OUT TO AS I AM. THEY CIRCLED BACK TO THE DRIVEWAY. PLUS IF ANYBODY PARKED ON ZION NEED EITHER HAVE TO HOP UP OR DOWN OR RETAINING WALL TO GET TO THE TOWN HOME AND IN THE BUILDING IN THE SOUTH. IT DOES HAVE ONE WALK LEADING OUT, BUT THAT'S REQUIRED BY A D A TO HAVE THAT WALK LEADING UP, BUT IT MOSTLY LEADS BACK INTO THE PARKING LOT. SO AND THAT WALK THAT LEADS OUT LEADS OUT INTO THE TURNING LANE. SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO PARK THERE. SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS OR IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS DESIGNED WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT ENCOURAGED TO PARK LONG ZION. NO, NO, SIR. THEY ARE NOT ENCOURAGED TO PARK ALONG ZION.

NO, SIR. OKAY? IN ADDRESSING COMMENTS ABOUT VERTICAL RETAIL AND STUFF. WE'VE GOT MAJOR COMPLEX OUT IN 1 90 THAT WE REQUIRED RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. NOTHING EVER CAME OF IT.

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FIREFIGHTERS ARE NOT JUST PARAMEDICS. BUT THEY STILL HAD TO WAIT FOR AN ENGINE OR TRUCK IN THE CITY IS LOOKING AS TO WHAT IT WILL TAKE TWO TO IMPROVE THAT SITUATION AND YEAH. I FEEL VERY SORRY THAT THAT HAPPENED TO HER. BUT IT WASN'T CAUSED BY THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA. UM I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER USE I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE PRESENT BETTER THAN THE APPLICANT HAS AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THEIR APPLICATION. WITH A TIE TO THEIR DETAILED PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS. FEW THINGS, AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, SO I'M GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND GO WHAT I HAD. I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS AND EAT CLARITY. AND SO I WANT TO TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT. BECAUSE TO YOUR TO, UM TO, UM MR BETTS POINT. A LAWYER. WE HAVE TWO ZONE ON THE LAND USE RIGHT? BUT THERE IS A DETAILED PLAN. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS. I THINK THAT ARE NEEDED BECAUSE AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS . I THINK THERE'S A BLEND OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE CITY OWNS IT, VERSUS WHERE THE

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CITIZENS HAVE ALREADY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BY DOING SO. AND WITH WITH THOSE TRACKING TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WILL WILL BE A, UH, AN AGREEMENT AS A DEVELOPED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE AN AMENDMENT NEEDED TO THE DETAILED PLAN BECAUSE OF THAT AGREEMENT OR ALIGNMENT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOTION AT SOME POINT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO INCLUDE, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT THEY CAN OWN VERSUS WHAT THE CITY OWNS IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS WITH ALL THOSE FIVE BUCKETS, TRAFFIC PARKLAND. YOU SUBMITTED THESE ETCETERA SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR SO THE STUFF THAT'S NOT ON THIS DEVELOPERS PROPERTY. THE STUFF THAT'S ON THE ROAD. WE CAN'T INCLUDE IN THE DETAILED PLANNING , WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO CHANGE THE ROADWAY AND PARK THAT THE CITY OWNS IN THE DETAILED PLAN. WE'RE DOING THE DETAILED PLAN ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE DEVELOPER OWNS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TRANSPORTATION UH HAS ADDRESSED ABOUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE. ON THE STREETS IN THE AREA. BUT WE CAN'T COMPEL THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS OR THE PUBLIC LAND TO THE NORTH OF POND. PARKLAND AMENITY SO THEY VOLUNTEER TO DO BUT WE CAN'T YOU COULDN'T MAKE THAT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THEY DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR HERE RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BLURRED. COMMUNICATION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT OR I'LL SAY, MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. UM SO, UH, THOSE, UM THOSE THE PARKLAND AMENITIES, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT IN THE PARKING CONCERNS ARE TRULY OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPERS CONTROL. ON A DETAILED PLAN. THAT WOULD BE TRUE WHETHER THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT SOME POINT TO DEVELOP THAT LAND TO THE NORTH, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS SEPARATELY, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS DETAILED PLAN. OKAY? AH, UM. WHETHER IT'S THE PROCESS OR HOW IS IT THAT THE CITY. UM ALIGNS WITH THOSE. AGREEMENTS THAT WERE COMMUNICATED AROUND THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PARKLAND , THE TRAFFIC OR LIKE, WHAT IS IT IF I'M THINKING, IF I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW. HOW ARE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS GOING TO HAPPEN? IF IT'S NOT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND I JUST IT'S BEEN MAYBE A QUESTION ON PEOPLE'S MIND, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. HOWEVER, THEY WOULD HAPPEN. IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE DETAILED PLAN THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS. UM AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES ANY EMERGENCY SERVICES, ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR UH, DID IT. I GOT IT ALL ALMOST ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MEETING WITHOUT SAINT MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. YOU KNOW, I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER DALTON. THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST OPTION. UM AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED IN THAT FACT. BUT, UM. YOU KNOW, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THIS IS A LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. AT JUST OVER 18 BETWEEN 18 AND 19. UNIT AN ACRE AND WE'RE SEEING NOW. YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE 30. BY RIGHT 40 50 UNITS AND ACRE AND, UM. IN MY THING IS WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER FOR THIS. THIS THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO DEVELOP. THE FAMILY HAS THE RIGHT TO

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NOW IS THE TIME. AND, UM. YOU KNOW, AND AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE COMMENTS THE AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THEM AND READ THEM ALL. UM AND A LOT OF THEM TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW? WELL, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RETAIL IN THE AREA. THERE'S NO SUPPORTING RETAIL, AND THAT'S RIGHT. THERE IS NO SUPPORTING RETAIL. IF YOU WANT TO GET SUPPORTING RETAIL, YOU'RE JUST GONNA NEED MORE ROOFTOPS. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO NEED MORE ROOFTOPS. AND THE GOAL THERE THEN IS THAT IS TO GET SOMETHING IN IN DISTRICT THREE HAS BEEN FIGHTING. JERRY NICKERSON SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO THE FOLKS AT H E B. R. I KNOW THAT UM, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WORKING HARD IN THIS AREA. BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY JUST GOING TO NEED MORE ROOFTOPS. AND IT'S GONNA NEED CITY ACTIVITY. YOU NEED TO STAY ON. YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS VERY PLUGGED IN VERY WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF. BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT HIS CITY RESPONSIBILITY. YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT CITY RESPONSIBILITY NOW WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT THEM. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T TELL US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE EVERY DAY. BUT THAT CITY RESPONSIBILITY AND LITTLE CHANGES. YOU'D BE SHOCKED AT THE THINGS THE LITTLE CHANGES THAT CAN IMPROVE TRAFFIC ENORMOUSLY AND CANDIDLY. THAT'S BEEN THE REAL BIGGEST COMPLAINT THAT EVERYBODY HAS HAD. AND SO YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. PROJECT WHICHEVER WAY THE MOTION GOES, ALL SUPPORT THE PROJECT. AH, UM BUT BUT I HOPE THAT HOWEVER IT GOES THAT Y'ALL WHO HAVE COME DOWN HERE IN BEN ENGAGED, STAY ENGAGED TO ENGAGE WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IMPROVE THE SERVICES ASKED FOR ASKED FOR IMPROVED FIRE SERVICE. YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME THAT YOU KNOW. LAST TIME THE BUDGET CAME AROUND, THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER. ANOTHER ENGINE COMPANY DOWN IN DISTRICT FIVE BECAUSE IT IS FAR AWAY FROM OTHER CITY RESOURCES, BECAUSE IF ENGINE FIVE IS OFF ON ANOTHER CALL, YOU ARE A LONG WAY AWAY FROM HAVING HAVING FIRE SUPPORT, SO YOU KNOW, SO PLEASE STAY ENGAGED AND STAY ON TOP OF THOSE THINGS. AND I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO HAS COME DOWN AND SPOKE TO US. THOSE OF YOU COME DOWN MULTIPLE TIMES HAVE SPOKEN VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE ISSUES AND YOU ALL CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT YOUR CITY. AND I THINK WE ALL WE ALL SHARE THAT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE, YOU

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I DON'T RECALL WHAT IT WAS. AND IT'S GONNA SELL. THE OWNERS SAY THEY'RE GOING TO SELL. AND I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LOT OF YEARS. THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE CONSCIENTIOUS, DETAILED PLANS DEVELOPMENTS I'VE SEEN. MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT COULD WIPE OUT THE ONLY TIME I SEE HIM LEAVE LAND IS WHEN IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN. THIS ISN'T A FLOODPLAIN. THIS IS AN AMENITY THEY RECOGNIZE IT IS THAT THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE IT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE SINGLE FAMILY. OKAY? AND IF WE TURN IT DOWN WHAT COMES UP NEXT? MAY NOT BE QUITE AS NICE. AND IT'S A TOUGH DECISION. AND WHICHEVER WAY THIS GOES, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY HAS HEARD YOUR GRIEVANCES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT. I THINK THEY'LL BE TALKING TO TEXTILE AS SOON AS THEY CAN. MAKE EITHER INCREMENTAL OR MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS. BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE WHEN I DROVE UP THERE. AND I'M CERTAIN ALL OF YOU HAD YOUR SITTING THERE WAITING TO TURN LEFT AND GUYS COMING FROM THE SOUTH. AND THEY JUST MAKE THAT SHORT CUT CUT ABOUT THAT FAR FROM YOUR CAR. YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE A FRIEND OF YOUR CAR? YEAH, THAT HAPPENED TO ME, SO WE NEED TO GET THAT STUFF TAKEN CARE OF. FOR EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHAT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I HATE TO THINK OF WHAT COULD GO IN THERE. THAT THAT IS MUCH WORSE.

ALREADY UH WE'RE STOPPING FROM MOTION OF DISCUSSION OR MIND YOU ALL THAT THIS IS A TWO PARTER FOR TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DETAILED PLAN. CHAIRMAN MY MIC IS SO I AM MAKING EMOTION. AND BECAUSE OF THE CLARITY, EMOTIONS NOT IN PLACE YET, BUT JUST SPEAKING BEFORE THE MOTION. UM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON LAND USE. NOT PEOPLE. AND IF THAT ZONING IS HAVE VARIANCES TO CODE AND STANDARDS. AND IF THE DETAILED PLAN FITS THE LAND USE AND GIVEN WHAT I'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF THE BEST USE OF LAND THAT'S MOST APPROPRIATE. THE MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DETAILED PLAN AS IT'S WRITTEN. IS THAT A MOVE TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE DETAILED PLANNING THAT IS CORRECT RECOMMENDATION. WITH WITH ALL THE YES BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANY AMENDMENTS. AT THE MOMENT THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE PER CITY, RIGHT. SO, YES, CORRECT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HEAR A 2ND 2ND? OKAY I HEARD TWO SECONDS. I'M GOING TO GO WITH COMMISSIONER DALTON. ALREADY WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PAIRS TO APPROVE THE DETAILED PLAN AND THE P D WITH ITS DEVIATIONS AND A SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER DALTON ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I REALLY DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT. I KNOW IT DIDN'T GO THE WAY MOST OF YOU WANTED. BUT YOU HAVE MADE AN IMPACT AND WE ALL LISTEN AND THIS WILL BE GONE BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THANK YOU. NEXT NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ACTUALLY, ITEMS TO C AND TWO D.

THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THESE ITEMS BE POSTPONED TO AUGUST 22ND. I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. IT'LL JUST BE POSTPONED TO THAT TIME. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. WELL THEY

[Items 3E & 3F]

[02:35:01]

WITH CROWN CASTLE ON BEHALF OF T MOBILE. I BELIEVE YOU HEARD THE PRESENTATION EARLIER TODAY, SO I WON'T GO INTO TOO MANY DETAILS. RIGHT NOW. IT'S GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SIMPLE PROJECT. UM THERE'S AN EXISTING STEALTH CELL TOWER. BASICALLY A. YOU KNOW YOU CAN CONSIDER A FLAG LYS FLAGPOLE . WE CALL IT STEALTH OR HAS CONCEALMENT SHROUDS. SO YOU, UM TENA'S ARE CONCEALED AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CONVERT IT TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING A REGULAR MODEL POLL WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE EXPOSED ON A PLATFORM. UM THIS WILL BE FOR T MOBILE TO START AND LATER, ANOTHER CARRIER WILL FOLLOW. THERE'S CURRENTLY TWO CARRIERS AT THIS, UH AT THIS TOWER. AND THIS CONVERSION IS NEEDED TO UPGRADE TECHNOLOGY AND JUST ALLOW FOR A BETTER MAINTENANCE. AND, UM JUST BETTER AIRFLOW. YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOU KNOW, OVERHEATING ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT AT THIS TOWER, SO THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE JUST A GENERAL OVERALL UPGRADE FOR THE FOR THE TOWER. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE NEW ANTENNA RAZOR BIGGER AND FATTER AND FURTHER OUT AND NOT JUST SINGLE ANTENNAS AND STUFF. SO YES, OKAY, THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. YOU'RE WELCOME. NO PROBLEM. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WILL SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE I HAVE A NORTHERN SPEAKERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME THANK YOU . ALREADY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER ROBIN AND THEN. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M PREPARED TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND MAKE A MOTION. LET ME ASK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS HAD A QUESTION OR ANYTHING FIRST.

OKAY? GO AHEAD. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. AND THAT WE APPROVE. THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED. OKAY MOTION, BUT COMMISSIONER AND SECOND BY COMMISSION JENKINS TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION INTERESTED FROM A DISCUSSION STANDPOINT. UM ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE AH CELL COVERAGE IN THE AREAS I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF. THIS IS AN A TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT TERRIBLY FART AND JUST REQUIRE UM IT BECAUSE IT IS SHROUDED FOR YEARS. IT WAS IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THIS, UH, THIS LITTLE STRIP CENTER. IT WAS EXACTLY RIGHT BEHIND A TROPHY SHOP. AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOME KIND OF LIKE SMOKESTACK TYPE THING OR SOMETHING FOR VENTING WHATEVER HORRIBLE SMELTING OR WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING IN THE I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE, PROBABLY SOME 19 FORTIES TROPHY SHOP WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SMELTING BRONZE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I NEVER HAD ANY IDEA. UNTIL I UNTIL I SAW THIS ITEM THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY A CELL TOWER, SO GREAT JOB, DISGUISING IT. UMO IMPROVE. YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY IS YOU KNOW, MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER, AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THAT. I CERTAINLY SUPPORT AND JUST FOR CLARITY. IN THE RECORD. THIS IS TO PROVE THE SPECIALIST PROVISION FOR THE INDEFINITE PERIOD OF DEFINITE PERIOD AND THE DETAILED PLAN APPROVAL OF THE INTERNAL, OKAY? ALRIGHTY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALREADY LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM THREE. G UH,

[3g. Consideration of the application of BCC Engineering, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family-Estate (SF-E) District. This property is located at 1450 Todd Lane. (District 1) (File Z 22-42) (Part 2 of 2)]

[02:40:10]

BC BBC IF YOU WANT, THAT'S FINE. UM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE THE SYSTEM FAIRLY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT ONE ZONING TO ANOTHER.

ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES ADDRESSED THIS ITEM? COME ON DOWN, SIR. ARE YOU MICHAEL BAKER ? YES, SIR. ALRIGHTY 13 22 TALLY ROAD IN GARLAND WERE MY WIFE IS ONE THAT SOLD THIS PROPERTY AND SO WE HAD A LITTLE CONCERNED AT FIRST WHEN IT CAME OUT AS AN SF 10, AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND SO BECAUSE OF OUR PROPERTIES, ALL HAVING LARGER LAND UP THERE, AND SO WE DID RESTRICTED IT TO TWO HOUSES, AND SO OF COURSE, I TALKED AS SOON AS I GET THAT I SAW THE SIGN. I CALLED MR. FOR HUNTING.

I SAID, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? YOU KNOW, I SAID, I TOLD YOU WE ONLY WANTED TO HOUSES.

AND HE SAID, WELL, WE'LL MAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT. WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO I WENT TO THE CITY.

TALK TO THE CITY AND TALK TO MR GRAND THERE AND CONCERNS. I TALKED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS AROUND. AND SO THEY ALL HAD CONCERNS. THEY'VE CALLED ME EVEN THIS WEEKEND LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR SF 10 ZONE? AND I SAID, SURE YOU IT IS NOT S F 10. IT IS S F E. THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE A POSSIBILITY OF TWO HOUSES BEING BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY AND PROBABLY ONLY ONE, BUT, UH, JUST A POSSIBILITY OF TWO. SO ANYHOW, WE'RE FART AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HIM TO GET STARTED ON HIS HOUSE. HE WANT TO GET STARTED IN APRIL. HERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR I SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT THEY DON'T WORK THAT FAST THROUGH CITY GOVERNMENT. BUT HERE WE ARE, AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR HIM AND BLOOD HIM AS A NEIGHBOR. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL ADD ONE THING AND THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. THIS IS TONIGHT. THIS IS OUR SECOND CASE OR PUBLIC INPUT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE. THE NEIGHBORS SENT IN LETTERS SAYING WE DON'T WANT 10,000 SQUARE FEET. WE WANT THE 30,000 SQUARE FEET. THE WORD GOT AROUND THE APPLICANT. GREAT GRACEFULLY CHANGED HIS PLAN. SO FOLKS WHEN YOU GET THESE ON NOTIFICATIONS OUT THERE RIGHT IN IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ALREADY, UH. SO YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION GENERAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER JENKINS MAY EXCUSE ME MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IMPROVE THESE ITEMS AS THIS ITEM HAS PRESENTED. OKAY WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSE. SORRY ABOUT THAT TO PROVE THE CHANGE IN ZONING. ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. TWO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF AUGUST 22ND YEAR JOURNEY THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.