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AND THIS

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IS THE AUGUST MEETING OF THE GARLAND PARKS

[ Parks and Recreation Board Meeting on August 3, 2022]

AND RECREATION BOARD.

AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY MOLLY BISHOP MOVE.

SECOND, SECOND BY JERRY CARTER.

ANY DISCUSSION, ANY CHANGES WE NEED? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, VERBAL BRIEFINGS, CITY MANAGER, PROPOSAL PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS LOOKING AT UP HERE.

KEITH REAGAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

OH, IT'S NOT THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTED THE, UH, IS A PROPOSED BUDGET TO COUNCIL LAST NIGHT.

AND UM, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER, UH, YOU HAVE A SHORTENED VIEW OF WHAT THEY RECEIVED.

UH, IT'S MAINLY THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECTION, UH, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ONES OVER 400 PAGES.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PRINT THAT FOR EVERYBODY.

SO YOU CAN GO ONLINE.

JERRY, IF YOU LACK A COMPLETE COPY, KEEPING ME FROM ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, KATE, SO, YEAH.

SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, UM, OF WHAT'S IN HERE, UM, UM, ON PAGE 12, UM, IS THE CITY MANAGER BUDGET MESSAGE.

IT JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE CITY MANAGER, UM, HAS IN THE BUDGET AND HIS PRIORITIES KIND OF TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE NEXT SECTION WILL BE THE FINANCIAL SUMMARIES, UH, THAT STARTING ON PAGE 1 31.

UM, THAT'S BASICALLY, UM, COVERS THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION PERFORMANCE MEASURES FROM PARKS AND RECREATION.

UH, TALKING ABOUT OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS YEAR, OUR GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR AND SOME KEY PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

UM, WE ALSO WITHIN THE PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL ARTS, WE HAVE THE, UH, ARTS, THE EVENTS AND TOURISM AND HERITAGE.

AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION THAT YOU WILL FIND WILL ALSO BE THE DEPARTMENT DETAIL THAT WILL BASICALLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK, UM, BACKGROUND ON, UH, WHAT IS PRESENTED AS FAR AS THE, UH, PERSONNEL OPERATIONAL AND CAPITAL REQUESTS.

UH, AND THEN, AND IF YOU GO TO PAGE 1 41, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL OF WHAT'S IN OUR BUDGET.

UH, THE DISCUSSION AND NOTES IS KIND OF DO A SUMMARY.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO A LOT IN THE DETAIL OF THAT, UH, BECAUSE, UH, AS WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT IN A MOMENT, WE ARE DOING A COUNCIL PRESENTATION, UM, AND, UH, AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SET TIMUR WITH MORE DETAIL INFORMATION.

UM, THE NEXT SECTION IN 2 79 IS THE RECREATION PERFORMANCE FUND.

UM, ON 2 79, YOU WILL HAVE THE FUND SUMMARY OF THE PERFORMANCE FUND, AND THEN VERY SIMILAR TO THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU'LL HAVE THE, A FUN DETAIL.

THE NEXT SECTION THAT I'M SHOWING HERE IS YOUR PERSONNEL, UH, WHICH IS ON PAGE 365.

AND IT JUST LISTS ALL THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN, UH, JUST CAUSE JERRY AND HIS, UM, KNOWLEDGE BASE KIND OF TALKS A LITTLE BIT, UH, STARTING ON FOUR 13 OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WHAT CAN WE DO EVERY YEAR? HOW WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET.

IT'S A GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF OUTLINE OF THAT BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, SO THAT WAY Y'ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE HOW WE DERIVE AT GETTING TO THE BUDGET PROCESS ITSELF AND PRESENTING, AND THEN THE LAST, BUT NOT LEAST IS THE BUDGET SCHEDULE AND A COUPLE OF ITEMS I WANT TO KIND OF, UH, KEY DATES IS AUGUST 13.

WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL WORK SECTION.

UH THAT'S WHEN WE'RE DOING A COUNCIL PRESENTATION OVER THE, UM, NEW REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE IN

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OUR BUDGET.

UM, MOST LIKELY THAT WILL BE AROUND LUNCH OR A LITTLE BIT AFTER LUNCH, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE FALL WITHIN THE SCHEDULE.

AND I THINK WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY CLOSE AROUND LUNCH TIME WHEN WE'RE PROBABLY DOING HOURS, BUT, UM, UH, ONCE WE DO OUR PRESENTATION, WE'LL BRING THAT PRESENTATION TO BOARD AND PROVIDE THE BOARD THE EXACT SAME, UH, DETAILED THAT WE PROVIDE THROUGH THE COUNCIL.

AND THEN AS OF RIGHT NOW, SEPTEMBER SIX IS THE SCHEDULE ADOPT DATE.

UH, IF THEY DON'T ADOPT IT ON SEPTEMBER SIX, UM, THEY BUY BY ORDINANCE.

THEY HAVE TO AT LEAST ADOPT IT BY THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL BEANIE, WHICH WILL BE TWO WEEKS LATER, WHICH WILL BE THE 20TH.

SO, SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK SUMMARY.

UH, MOLLY, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT PAGE FIVE BROWN LEE OUT OF DRAWING HIM IS THAT FLU DOESN'T DESERVE AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER.

I'LL FIND OUT I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE ARTS, THE DETAILED MAINTENANCE ITEMS, BUT, UH, I COULD FIND OUT WHERE THEY CATCH FLIES.

SO THE RIGGING SYSTEM, THAT'S PETER PAN AND IT IS, IS IT, IS IT PART OF THE RIGGING? I REMEMBER FROM HIGH SCHOOL, UM, STAGECRAFT, UM, THE FLY SYSTEM FOR ON A STAGE IS ALL THE CURTAINS AND EVERYTHING THAT CAN GO UP AND DOWN.

OKAY.

SO HE DID THAT.

MY HUSBAND DID THE LIGHTS Y'ALL COULD DO YOUR OWN.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTION, JERRY? UM, THIS FIRST ONE, UM, ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU GUYS GET TO WORK ON THIS? DO YOU WORK ON IT ON AND OFF DURING THE YEAR, OR IS THERE A CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR THAT YOU START GEARING UP, YOU'RE GAINING INFORMATION INFORMATION, THEN YOU GEAR UP, UH, AND HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER.

SO THE BUDGET PROCESS ORIGINALLY STARTS IN FEBRUARY.

UH, WE START, UH, PROVIDING SUPPORTING DEPARTMENTS INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT NEED FROM HR TO, UH, T TO FACILITY TO GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UH, INFORMATION COMPLETED IN TIME FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, MARCH IS USUALLY WHEN WE START REVENUE PROJECTIONS, AND THEN APRIL IS WHEN WE CONCENTRATE ON DOING OUR BUDGET.

THE, UM, WE HAD TO HAVE OUR BUDGET SUBMITTED BY, UH, THE 1ST OF MAY.

UH, AT THAT TIME IT GOES TO BUDGET.

THEY WILL START DOING SOME CALCULATIONS, UH, PRELIMINARY BUDGET PROJECTIONS.

AND THEN IN JUNE IS TYPICALLY WHEN WE MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UH, THE CITY MANAGER WILL START DEVELOPING HIS BUDGET, UH, AFTER THOSE MEETINGS, UM, BASED OFF OF HIS COMPENSATION, SEE HAT WITH COUNCIL, UH, I DO BELIEVE THEY DID A BUDGET RETREAT.

UM, I'M GOING TO SAY MAY OR JUNE, I'M LOOKING AT COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS ON THAT, BUT TYPICALLY BASED OFF OF THAT COUNCIL, WE TREAT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER WE'LL MAKE HIS PRIORITIES.

UH, AND THEN MOST OF THE MONTH OF JULY BUDGET WORKS ON, UH, ONCE THEY GET THE FINAL CAD NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING START TO DEVELOP THE BUDGET THAT IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST.

SO BASICALLY YOU'RE WORKING AT LEAST HALF OF THE YEAR IN SOME FORM OR FASHION IN GATHERING INFORMATION BEGINNING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING.

AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS CIP THE OTHER HALF SPEND IT.

I BET YOU SPENDING THAT HALF THAT YOU'RE ORGANIZED.

OKAY.

NEXT QUESTION.

UM, HOW, HOW DOES THIS BUDGET REQUEST COMPARE TO SAY THE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, AS WE BEGAN TO RAMP UP WITH ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRING, AND YOU CAN GIVE ME A SHORT ANSWER ON THAT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DETAILED.

SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THIS YEAR, UM, WITH THE BUDGET BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION.

UM, AND I'M, I'M GONNA SEE IF I ACTUALLY PUT THIS IN THERE, UM,

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BECAUSE IT'S A, CAUSE I DID WATCH THE MONDAY RETREAT OR MONDAY, UH, COUNCIL WORK SECTION.

YES, SIR.

AND, UH, THE CITY MANAGER POINT OUT FIVE MAJOR ITEMS THAT THIS BUDGET IS TAKEN CARE OF.

ONE IS STAFF WITH THE MERIT INCREASES BECAUSE OF INFLATIONS.

UM, THAT WAS ONE OF HIS TOP PRIORITIES.

UH, NUMBER TWO IS TAKING CARE OF, UH, THE BOND AND THE PROGRAMS THAT TIE TO THE BOND PROGRAM.

UM, THREE WAS SILVER SERVICE.

AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, IS THERE A PAGE ON THAT, THAT, YEAH, IT'S ON PAGE 14, UH, WITH THE, WHERE THE BUDGET MEMO IS, AND IT LINES OUT WHAT THE BUDGET PRIORITIES WERE.

OKAY.

I WAS PRETTY CLOSE SO FAR WHATNOT.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM WAS INFLATIONARY NUMBERS, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THE COST OF FUEL, UH, FLEET MAINTENANCE WAS A BIG INCREASE.

UH, WE'VE BEEN HIT WITH SOME NEW INCREASES THAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND, UM, AND THEN, UH, MAINTAINING A HIGH LEVEL OF RESERVES, UH, TO RESPOND TO UNFORESEEN FINANCIAL CHALLENGES.

SO THOSE ARE THE FIVE AREAS THAT THE CITY MANAGER FOCUSED ON.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE GOTTEN INTO WHAT WHAT'S, YOU'RE PROPOSING, UH, TO, UH, UH, TO THE COUNCIL, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.

UM, ARE YOU GETTING CLOSE TO WHAT YOUR ACTUAL NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE? AND I KNOW IN THE PAST, EVERYTHING WAS JUST HORRIBLE TO TRY TO, WE'VE GOTTA, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY WITH PROPERTY VALUES AND PROPERTY TAXES DECLINING.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE NOW, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO WHAT YOUR ACTUAL NEEDS ARE? SO THE LAST FEW YEARS WE BEEN, I GUESS THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF US WITH SOME ONE-TIME KNEES, WHICH WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ONE-TIME NEEDS.

UM, UM, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME STILL STAFFING ISSUES THAT, UH, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH.

UH, THIS BUDGET PROCESS DOES TAKE CARE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING ZERO NEW POSITIONS.

UH, WE IN ADMINISTRATION, NOT IN, IN THE, IN THE FIELD, IN THE FIELD AT ALL TOTAL.

YEAH.

SO WE, WE ADD IN ZERO NEW POSITIONS, BUT THIS POSITIONS WILL HELP WITH THE NUMBER OF DEFICIENCIES.

AND I'LL LET MATT KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT SINCE IT'S IN HIS AREA.

YEAH.

I WOULD SAY FROM THE INITIAL FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM A MEETING WITH CITY MANAGEMENT AND THEY'RE MEETING WITH COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, OUR TOP PRIORITIES ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD, MOVING UP INTO THIS WAY.

UH, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT NOT GET ANY NEW POSITIONS WITH SOME POTENTIAL, UH, NEW CONTRACT MONEY, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO SHIFT SOME POSITIONS INTERNALLY TO BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY FOCUS, UH, OUR INTERNAL STAFF ON THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, THAT NEED A LITTLE EXTRA ATTENTION LIKE OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS AND A LOT OF THE NEW, NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND NEW AMENITIES THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AS PART OF THE BOND PACKAGE AND CONTRACT OUT THINGS LIKE RIGHT AWAY MOWING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S EASIER TO CONTRACT OUT THAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY IN HOUSE.

SO, UM, IF SOME OF THOSE THINGS COME TO FRUITION, WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, REORGANIZE HOW SOME OF OUR FTES ARE USED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE NEW STUFF THAT IS COMING ONLINE.

AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT QUESTION AS THESE PROJECTS BEGAN TO MOUNT UP THAT WE'RE GETTING A COMPLETION, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION STAGE, BUT ONCE WE GET TO COMPLETION AND THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE IS GOING TO MAKE AN INCREASED DEMAND ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND I PRESUME THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE BEGINNING TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT SO THAT YOU DON'T JUST RUN UP AND SAY, OH, THIS YEAR WE NEED AND THEY GO GULP.

NO WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE AND, UM, FORECASTING WHAT THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE, UH, WITH THE NEW ASSETS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE.

UM, NOT JUST OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT MADE THE TOP FIVE LIST OF THE BUDGET PRIORITIES TO INCREASE OUR OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR COMPLETED BOND PROJECTS.

AND, AND WE ARE DEFINITELY AHEAD OF THE GAME IN THAT IN FORECASTING, THOSE, THOSE OPERATIONAL COSTS.

AND WE'VE INCLUDED THOSE INTO OUR BUDGET REQUESTS.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

TWO WAYS FIRST OFF YOU'RE THERE.

AND SECONDLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GIVING THE COUNCIL A HEADS UP.

UM, AND THAT'S, WE JUST HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT FOR SO MANY YEARS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE BUDGETARY SHORTFALLS OF LESS, UH, TAX DOLLARS COMING IN.

BUT NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE STARTING TO GAIN ON IT, BUT WHEN YOU GAINING ON IT, YOU START OFF WALKING AND YOU'RE PROBABLY JOGGING BY NOW.

AND PRETTY SOON YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING WIDE OPEN AND THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT WAS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD FOR YOU, BUT NOT

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ALL OF THEM.

THANK YOU, KEITH, JASON, HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, WITH THE, I GUESS, INCREASE IN THE STAFFING COSTS, WILL THERE BE ANY INCREASE IN LIKE PROGRAMMING USAGE AND OR PROGRAMMING FEES AND FACILITY USE FEES TO KIND OF HELP OFFSET THAT? UM, YES, WE DON'T WANT REVENUE INCREASES THAT WE HAVE NEXT YEAR IS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE, THE RENTAL FEES AND THAT RENTAL FEES OFFSET THE PRICE INCREASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, STAFFING TO HELP COVER THAT.

AND THOSE WERE PRESENTED TO PARKS BOARD, CORRECT? I THINK TWO MONTHS AGO.

YEAH.

BUT, AND THEN, AND THEN TAKE, TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER WITH THE PROGRAM FEES, REC CENTERS ARE STILL WORKING AND USING THE PYRAMID STRUCTURE TO PRICE THEIR PROGRAMS BASED OFF OF THE PYRAMID THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST YEAR IN ONE MINUTE OR LESS, GIVE US THE PERIOD.

IT'S BASICALLY A SUBSIDIZE PYRAMID.

SO THE PROGRAMS THAT, UM, IS THE MOST DELAY, YOU'LL KIND OF DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN THE PYRAMID WOULD BE THE PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY WOULD SUBSIDIZE FOR THOSE THAT BENEFIT THE MOST.

SO THE EXAMPLE THAT I WOULD GIVE YOU WOULD BE CARVER SENIOR CENTER.

WE DO A LOT TO SUBSIDIZE THAT PROGRAM.

FIRST IS TOP OF THE PYRAMID.

YOU'RE GOING TO ADD SOMEBODY THAT RENTS AND SPACE THAT TO YOUR CENTER, ANY OF OUR FACILITY, BRADFIELD, WHATEVER, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT FOR THAT PERSON THAT'S USING IT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GO TO THE GRADUATION PARTY.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE FIGHTS SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND RECOVER MORE COSTS THAN WE ARE SAY FOR THE EGG HUNT.

IT'S FREE, THERE'S A CHARGE TO REASSESS IT, BENEFITS COMMUNITY.

AND THEN THERE'S THE LAYERS IN BETWEEN.

OKAY.

IS THAT THE SUBSIDIES DECREASE AS YOU GO UP TO THE, TO THE, YOU USE IT, YOU PAY FOR IT ALL.

AND EVEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP, YOU REALLY DON'T PAY FOR IT ALL.

YOU JUST, YOU PAY UP A FAIR FEE FOR IT.

YES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL.

AND, AND I WILL REITERATE WHAT KEITH JUST SAID IS WE'LL BACK IN, IN SEPTEMBER AND GIVE THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN TO COUNSEL ON AUGUST 13TH.

UH, HE CAN GO MORE INTO DETAIL, UH, INTO WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC ASKS ARE AND HOW WE'LL UTILIZE THEM AND, AND WHY THOSE ASKS WERE.

SO, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL AND WE DON'T NEED ANY CONCERTED FASTING FROM THE BOARD.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT, UH, WE KNEW THAT IT WAS A TOUGH YEAR FOR THE CITY MANAGER OR AM PRESENTING.

AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT, UH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDED US AND WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO.

OKAY, GREAT, MOLLY.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE SPIFF ON A SATURDAY, WAS HE OUT A LOT? UH, BUT, AND, AND IT WAS EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND GOOD EVERYWHERE A WHOLE 20 YEARS ON THE BOARD.

SO IT WAS A LOT GOING ON THERE.

IS THERE GONNA BE ANY, IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, LIKE MINUTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM THAT MAYBE THAT WILL APPEAR ANYWHERE? IT MIGHT BE AN AGENDA OF THE, THE MAIN THING ON THAT WAS JUST THE TOUR AND THE LOCATIONS.

REALLY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL, PRETTY INFORMATIVE.

YEAH.

IT'S MORE OF A TOUR OF THE FACILITIES.

YEAH.

BUT THAT WAS THREE, IT'S SO HELPFUL TO HAVE THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND TO LEAD US AROUND BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT SEEING IT AND BEING THERE ON THE HOUSE, WE'RE ALREADY USING IT, USING IT, AND THEY GO OFF TO THE SIDE AND WE DRIVE AWAY.

SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST THAT'S COMING OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW

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HOW YOU, YOU SEE HOW THAT, HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE KIND OF THING, UNLESS YOU'RE OUT.

THEN IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

WELL, AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO ANOTHER ONE WHEN THERE'S SOME OTHER MAJOR MILESTONES AND THINGS THAT ARE GETTING DONE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE RIBBON, CUTTING THE OREGON COME THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THERE'S OTHER MAJOR MILESTONES, AS THINGS START TO COME IN, WE CAN DEFINITELY SCHEDULE ANOTHER TOUR LIKE THAT AT ANY TIME.

SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS TAKE A WHILE TO COME ALONG AND THERE'S NOT A LOT TO SEE.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN POP THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIS-EASE.

SO IT MIGHT BE KIND OF JUST TALKING THROUGH THAT WHEN WOULD BE THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT, NOT WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OUT.

OKAY.

MONTHLY REPORTS, EVERYBODY REVIEW THOSE, THEN YOU GET QUESTIONS.

THOSE JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

WHEN DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP RECODE AND PHASE ONE FUNNY, YOU SHOULD ASK THAT.

UM, UH, RIGHT NOW WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING OUT THERE THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, RIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING IS CONTINGENT ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE TIMING OF THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND THERE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ARE TENTATIVELY LOOKING FOR A MID TO LATE OCTOBER, UH, DATE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP PHASE ONE.

OKAY.

MAKES SENSE.

JERRY CARS, ONE JUST, I'M SORRY.

I'M COUNTING THESE AND MAKE NOTES, UM, ABOUT THINGS THAT I'M, I JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO TO THE ALIBABA RECREATION CENTER EXPANSION.

UH, CORE'S BEEN SELECTED AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK START CONSTRUCTION AND FALL OF 2022.

AND, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE LIBRARY, HOW IT'S COMING ALONG, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A VERY INFORMATIVE UPDATE.

I JUST KNOW THAT THEY ARE, THEY WILL START CONSTRUCTION AFTER HOLLABAUGH HAS STARTED.

SO THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THEIR DESIGN PHASE, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THEY'RE MOVED ONTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS YET, OR IF THEY'RE STILL FINALIZING THEIR DESIGN.

THE HOPE IS THAT WE HAD BOTH OF THEM UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME SO THAT YOU DON'T FINISH ONE COMPLETE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND MESS UP EVERYTHING TO START THE NEXT ONE, OR DEFINITELY WE'LL HAVE HOW BALL WE'LL FINISH BEFORE THE LIBRARY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF, AS LONG AS YOU GOT CONSTRUCTION ON BOTH THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE OFFSET IN TIMELINES, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG.

OKAY.

UH, HARTFORD RECREATION CENTER AND THE AQUATIC CENTER, UH, ON THIS ONE, I JUST, UH, WENT OVER AND VISITED WITH MR. GARY, UH, YESTERDAY ABOUT A REC CENTER IN, UH, IN ROULETTE, UH, BECAUSE COME TO FIND OUT THAT, UH, UH, GRADUATING CLASS FROM SOUTH PORTLAND HIGH SCHOOL, UH, HAD TO GO TO RALLY TO FIND A PLACE TO HAVE A, UH, A, A, A GET TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH IT IS FOR OUR FEARS, UH, THAT WE, WE HAD TO GO OVER THERE.

AND WHEN, AND GOING OVER THERE, JASON WAS KIND ENOUGH TO TAKE US THROUGH THE REC CENTER AND JUST BROUGHT TO MIND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF.

AND, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAVE, AND I'LL TELL YOU ONE THAT IMPRESSED US QUICKLY WAS THE FACT THAT THEY HAD BLUETOOTH CAPABILITY FOR A SOUND SYSTEM IN THERE WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BRING IN YOUR OWN SOUND SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT.

YOU PUT EVERYTHING ON YOUR OWN, YOUR PHONE PRESS, PRESS PLAY, AND YOU GOT YOUR, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MUSIC SYSTEM FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE EVENING, UH, RIGHT THERE WITHOUT ANYTHING IS FIRST OFF.

IS THAT A PIECE THAT, THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT EVER THOUGHT ABOUT AS SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY OVERLOOKED? I WOULD THINK, YES, WE HAVE.

YES, WE HAVE.

OKAY.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT OUR LISTING THEM OFF? I'LL TELL YOU WHICH ONES ARE INTERESTING.

THAT ONE, THAT ONE WAS INTERESTED IN, IN THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS IN THE DESIGN OF OUR REC CENTERS.

WE, WE FOUND OUT BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS PARTICULAR THING THAT, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR REC CENTERS, UM, WE REALLY AREN'T SET UP TO HAVE A, TO ME AND I JUST I'M, I'M ONLY LOOKING AT AUTOBON.

OKAY.

AND OF COURSE, THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST BOND ELECTION, AND WE HAVE A GREAT FACILITY OVER THERE, BUT TRYING TO MATCH UP TO WHAT PEOPLE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A GROUP COME IN, HAVE NOT BE INTERRUPTING ALL THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON IN THE REC CENTER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND ALSO HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE, UH, AN ALCOHOL PERMIT, UH, THERE.

NOW I KNOW WE HAVE IT AT THE ATRIUM, AND I KNOW WHY WE HAVE IT AT THE ATRIUM, BECAUSE WHEN THAT WAS GRANTED, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ELSE AROUND, UH, THAT WOULD WORK FOR THAT.

BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO COME INTO THE REC CENTERS AT A MUCH SMALLER COST, BECAUSE YOU'RE USING A MUCH SMALLER FACILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE MUCH LESS PEOPLE.

UH, WE, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING THAT AS PART OF OUR FINISH OUTS, UH, ON OUR REC CENTERS, THERE'S EVEN AS PART OF THE DESIGN IN THE REC CENTERS, BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU COULD HAVE GROUPS, MORE GROUPS ABLE TO USE ABLE TO USE WHAT YOU HAVE THERE.

AND, AND THE PROBLEM THAT I SAW

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IN AUDUBON IS IT'S A GREAT FACILITY, BUT IT LOOKS SO MUNICIPAL.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU WOULD GO AND MAYBE HAVE A, HAVE A GET TOGETHER WHERE YOU WANTED TO IMPRESS PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE WORLD.

CAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME TO GARLAND IF WE HAD THE RIGHT PLACES FOR THEM MANY TIMES THEY DO NOW, BUT HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE PLACE IN GARLAND, WE COULD HAVE A PLACE IN NORTH GARLAND, UH, UH, HOLLABAUGH WE CAN HAVE A PLACE, UH, IN SOUTH GARLAND IN WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE AUDUBON AND, AND, AND, UM, UH, OUR OTHER ONE ON DAIRY ROAD I'M FIELDS.

OKAY.

ANYWAY, THIS IS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TAKING ANY OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT, ARE WE, THAT WAS A LONG WAY TO GET TO THAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

I E ARE YOU ASKING, WILL WE SERVE ALCOHOL? I MEAN, WILL WE ALLOW ALCOHOL? IS THAT THE WELL WHAT'D, WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A FACILITY THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD HANDLE THAT, UH, AND MAYBE, MAYBE MAKE IT NOT THE STIGMA THAT YOU WOULD THINK, BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE THE STIGMA WITH A BUNCH OF 70, SOME ODD YEAR OLD PEOPLE OUT HERE, BECAUSE JASON'S GOT, HE DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING ME WHAT THEY HAD OVER THERE IN RAL ED.

AND I'D BEEN TO THAT FACILITY TWO OR THREE TIMES BEFORE, BUT I HADN'T BEEN THINKING ABOUT USING IT AT THOSE TIMES.

SO ANYWAY, ANY OF THIS, SO GRANGER, LET ME DO MY BEST TO TRY AND ANSWER.

I THINK THE GRAIN DRAIN X IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE DEFINITELY IN HAD IN MIND IT BEING A MINI ATRIUM, THE PRICE POINT FOR THE ATRIUM IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY.

AND, BUT ALSO THE GRANGER CAN'T HANDLE THE VOLUME THAT THE ATRIUM WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE.

SO, UM, THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED, UM, HAVING OUTDOOR SPACES FLOW INTO INSIDE AND JUST, IT'S VERY, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY NICE.

THE FINISHES ARE VERY PRETTY.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS A PLACE IT WAS ALREADY HEAVILY RENTED ANYWAY.

UM, SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, HOLFORD DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL.

UM, IT WILL LOOK NOTHING LIKE ANY OF OUR OTHER REC CENTERS DO.

I MEAN, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST AND PROBABLY THE GREATEST IN THE SYSTEM.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH HOLLY BALL, WITH AUDUBON, WITH, UM, FIELDS, YOU KNOW, THOSE RENOVATIONS, UM, THEY WERE DONE WITH, YOU KNOW, WE DID AN UPDATED WHAT WE COULD WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAD.

SO SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD TO DO, LIKE YOU SAID, IT LOOKS TO MUNICIPAL.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT FUNDING.

THE GARLAND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER WILL BE A BRAND NEW BUILDING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DURING THE EVENING, IT'S, IT'S A SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR IT TO BE RENTED OUT.

UM, SO THAT'S AN OPTION IT'LL BE UPDATED AND HAVE NICE FINISHES, BUT THAT HAS DESIGNED HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO TALK NOW.

AND THEN IN REGARDS TO ALCOHOL, UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S UP TO, UM, ANDY OR HIS DESIGNEE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE SERVE ALCOHOL IN A PARK OR ONE OF OUR REC CENTERS.

UM, AND OF COURSE THERE'S PROS AND CONS OF HAVING THAT.

SO, UH, BUT IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION ON THE TABLE AT THE MOMENT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S FLOATED OUT THERE.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, I'M SPEAKING FROM HAVING WORKED AT REC CENTER SPECIFICALLY, AUDUBON, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT IN MY CAREER, YOU WOULD NOT, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING THE STAFF THAT ARE WORKING THERE ON THOSE WEEKEND RESERVATIONS, WHICH ARE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUNG COLLEGE AGE KIDS WORKING IN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE SECURITY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SECURITY A PART OF THAT.

IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WERE TO GO IN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF JASON CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT I MEAN, I LITERALLY RECEIVED A CALL WHEN I WAS WORKING WHEN I WAS THE SUPERVISOR AT AUDUBON AND IT WAS, OH MY GOSH, LEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FIGHT BREAKING OUT, MIKE, HANG UP WITH ME, CALL NINE ONE ONE, THEY CALL ME BACK, A WOMAN JUST GOT TASERED IN THE LOBBY AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED? AND THAT IN MY SATURDAY NIGHT ENDED UP GOING INTO THE REC CENTER AND LITERALLY JUST WALKING ON STICKY FLOOR.

I MEAN, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT GOT OUT OF CONTROL.

SO, SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SOMETIMES AGAIN, THE PARTIES THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOING TO BE GOING ON AT THE ATRIUM, THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE AND, YOU KNOW, THE VERSUS A REC CENTER RENTAL.

AND YOU'RE SOMETIMES YOU JUST NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO END UP AND I KNOW JASON CAN SPEAK TO THAT AND BEING FROM THE REC CENTER, NO, I'LL SAY, UM, WE DO HAVE TO REQUIRE PD BEING THERE.

YEP.

SO PD SHOWS UP 30 MINUTES BEFORE ALCOHOL GETS THERE AND 30 MINUTES AFTER ALCOHOL LEAVES.

AND WHEN I WORKED FOR CITY OF DENTON, THAT WAS THE SAME WAY AT ONE OF THE REC CENTERS THAT ALLOWED IT.

SO, I MEAN, WE JUST NEVER WOULD LET THEM HAVE IT WITH OUT ANY SECURITY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH JASON.

YOU HAVE SOME MORE TO SAY, WELL, I THINK THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, YOU WERE KIND OF ASKING ABOUT LIKE MULTIPURPOSE SPACES AND JUST MAKING

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SURE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH OF IT.

RIGHT? SO WHAT I'LL DO BURPEES, MOLLY HAS A QUESTION.

I WAS JUST GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO BRING BACK OUT.

SO TALKS ABOUT BEFORE, LIKE GUNS, SOME HOUSES CAN'T MEET IN GARLAND SAID THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S A GARLAND EVENT.

UH, THE POLICIES FOR THE CURTIS COLDWELL CENTER.

UM, I MEAN, THIS IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE IN, BUT EVEN HAVING EVENTS FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE.

WELL, PEOPLE FROM GARLAND, INVITING FRIENDS FROM OTHER CITIES, SOME OF US HAVE FRIENDS IN OTHER CITIES.

I DON'T, BUT Y'ALL MY AUNT.

LET HIM, UM, THIS IS THE MAIN THING IS THE FIRST, THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS IN THE DESIGN STAGE.

AND THE SECOND PART OF IT IS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IT IN THE, IN THE DECORATING AND ENHANCEMENT STAGE.

THE THIRD STAGE OF IT IS LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SET PROGRAM WITH, UH, WITH WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND, AND, AND I'M TELL YOU, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, WHAT RALLIED HAS ACCOMPLISHED THAT WE COULDN'T WIN THE FIRST GRADUATING CLASS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA HIGH SCHOOL.

COULDN'T COULDN'T HAVE ANY GARLIC CAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD THE ATRIUM EVEN.

I MEAN, WE TRY TO BE AS CREATIVE WE CAN WITH THE BUDGET.

SO AUDUBON GILL FIELDS, YOU KNOW, WE CREATED THE OUTDOOR PATIO SPACES THAT DO ALLOW SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AUDUBON HAS THE ENCLOSED AREA, SO MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW AND WHEN WE'RE HAVING A HUNDRED DEGREE TEMPERATURE, BUT THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LIGHTS OUT THERE THAT COULD BE A REALLY NICE SPACE OR AN ADDITION TO SOMEBODY THAT'S RENTED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, SAME WITH GAIL FIELDS.

THEY, IT'S NOT ENCLOSED, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL STILL BE A NICE LANDSCAPED AREA.

SO IT'S JUST A NICE ADDED TOUCH THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

THAT MAKES IT LESS, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, OLD-SCHOOL REC CENTER LOOKING, I 100% AGREE WITH YOU ON THOSE, BUT I'VE SEEN BOTH OF THEM AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE VERY GOOD AND WILL ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE SITUATIONS.

I SEE THE ANNEX, YOU SAID IT BEING A MINIATURE ATRIUM.

AND THEN I THINK WHEN YOU SEE, UM, I KNOW WE'VE SHOWED SOME OF THE HOLE FOR DESIGNS, BUT YOU HAVE, IT'S TWO STORY.

YOU HAVE A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM THAT HAS A NICE DECK, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COME OUT AND HAS A SPACE.

I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NICE.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, BECAUSE NOT ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT JUST EXTRA PROGRAMMING, OTHER CREATIVE PROGRAMMING SPACES THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.

YEAH.

TH THEY'RE MULTI MULTIPURPOSE IN AND IN, UH, IN THE, IN THE REC CENTER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING HOW THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ROOMS OR TWO DIFFERENT ROOMS OR ONE ROOM JUST BY, JUST BY MOVING, MOVING WALLS.

WE GET MULTI SCALE FIELDS.

WE HAVE THAT AT MULTIPLE CENTERS.

WONDERFUL.

WONDERFUL.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE STARTED DOWN THAT ROAD.

SO, BUT, BUT I'M TRYING TO DO THIS NOW WHEN WE'RE IN THE PRE-PLANNING STAGE.

SO THAT WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND RELAY THIS TO THOSE WHO ARE DOING OUR INITIAL DESIGNS, UH, ON ONE OR TWO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN EVERY ONE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW HOW THE OFFERED THIS, THESE ARE THE ONE, IT WAS THE ONE THAT, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE, THAT'S SUCH A PHENOMENAL PLACE TO SHOWCASE WHAT GARLAND HAS TO BECOME OKAY.

OR IS BECOMING, UH, IT'S JUST, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXCITEMENT I HAVE ABOUT, ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

AND THAT DESIGN IS VERY INTENTIONAL WITH RELATING TO THE REST OF THE PARK, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE THE ENTRY PLACED, HOW IT IS NOW, SO THAT IT OPENS UP TO THE REST OF THE PARK.

JUST ALL OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR SO LONG, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE IN THOSE DESIGN MEETINGS.

AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP EASE YOUR MIND CAUSE I'VE BEEN ON A LOT OF THESE DESIGN MEETINGS AND JERRY, AND, AND THAT IS ALWAYS FOREFRONT IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, EVEN AT HOLLOW BALL AND HAVING JOINT MEETINGS BETWEEN THE ARCHITECTS, FOR THE LIBRARY AND HALL BALL ABOUT HOW TO HAVE THAT JOINT SPACE, BE AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN, UH, ACTIVATE IT AND YOU CAN USE IT EVEN LOOKING AT HOW YOU TURN THE WALL OF THE NEW, UH, HOLLOW BALL, UM, GYMNASIUM.

SO WE COULD DO MOVIE NIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS ON THE FOREFRONT OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE, UM, MULTI-USE AND BE ABLE TO BE CREATIVE AND ALL OF THE SPACES THAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT IN ALL OF OUR BOND PROJECT FOR ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.

SO IT WILL BE NICE TO SEE EARLY, EARLY ON PLANS OF THESE THINGS A WEEK, THAT WAS THE WHOLE DEAL OF THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE LIBRARIAN.

WHILE I WROTE THE LETTER AND SUPPORTED THAT ONE SO STRONGLY THAT IT WAS JUST SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE, THE LIBRARY AND THE REC CENTER TOGETHER BECAUSE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THE NEEDS OF THAT AREA, I MEAN, I WENT IN, VISITED WITH THE PEOPLE AND I HEARD WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE.

I DIDN'T TELL THEM WHO I WAS.

I JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR AND STARTED TALKING TO THEM AND THEY WERE VERY OUTGOING.

OKAY.

UH, I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THE END.

I'M ON THE LAST PAGE, I THINK.

OKAY.

UH, SURE.

NO, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ONE PART IN THIS ONE, ONE QUESTION ON THIS ONE.

I THINK THESE THINGS THEY GIVE US AND I MARK THEM UP AND MAKE MY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET HERE.

SO I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.

UH,

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TUCKERBIL PARK ESTABLISHED REVIEW, 30% DESIGN SUBMISSION IS WAITING 60% SUBMITTAL, UH, FROM THE CONSULTANT.

SO THIS PUTS US WHERE IN THE PROCESS, ACCORDING TO THE TIME IT MAY BE DELIVERED.

UH, SO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE WORK, THEY'RE WORKING ON 60 PER PERCENT SUBMITTALS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN THOSE AROUND REALLY QUICKLY.

UH, WE'RE HOPEFULLY HOPING TO HAVE THESE OUT TO BID TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, WHICH WOULD MEAN IF EVERYTHING GOES, GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN AND WE CAN GET THEM OUT TO BID.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, WE COULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION AS EARLY AS HIS FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

WONDERFUL BEST CASE SCENARIO.

EXCELLENT.

THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS RICK ODIN.

UM, AGAIN, WE, WE SAID THIS EARLIER ON, BUT WHEN IS THE, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT HAVING THE, THE SKATE PARK OPEN? UM, AGAIN, THAT SKATEPARK AGAIN, FROM WHAT WE MET WITH THE CON THE CONTRACTORS TODAY, WE ARE SHOOTING FOR A MIDDLE TO END OF OCTOBER, UH, RIBBON CUTTING FOR PHASE ONE.

OKAY.

NEXT ONE, AUDUBON PARK.

UH, I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT THAT'S, UM, THE PICNIC AREA REPAVING IS PUSHED DOWN THE ROAD WHEN SURF BAY.

UM, WE'RE I GUESS WE'RE STILL ON HOLD.

WE GOT, WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO, TO CONQUER ON THAT, ON THAT ONE.

AND THEN LET'S SEE, UH, LET'S GO DOWN HERE TO AVALON AVALON PARK POND AND PURE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IMPROVED, UH, UPDATES ON THAT THEY HAVE MOBILIZED.

UH, ACTUALLY THE OLD PIER IS ACTUALLY COMPLETELY GONE ON, HAS BEEN TORN UP AND, AND HAULED AWAY.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE OUTFLOW AND INFLOW AREAS RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT THAT IS STILL THEY BEST CASE SCENARIO END OF THE YEAR, FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

UH, INTERESTING TIDBIT THAT YOU MIGHT FIND INTERESTING IS THEY HAD TO LOWER THAT LAKE LEVEL A LITTLE BIT POND LEVEL, A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, UH, BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND DO THE WORK.

AND IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, WE UNCOVERED A CAR THAT WAS IN THERE THAT WAS REPORTED STOLEN IN DALLAS IN NOVEMBER OF 2000 THAT WE KINDLY PULLED OUT, UM, GARLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT KINDLY PULLED OUT AND I'M SURE RETURNED IT TO THEM.

SO WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS DOWN THERE? BUT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT, SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG, UH, AND DOING REALLY WELL.

AND JUST, AND JUST FOR THIS, FOR THE SAKE OF TIMING, DIS COULDN'T BE MORE PERFECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DEVELOPED THE LAND THERE AND ARE GOING TO BE SELLING, SELLING HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO THIS THING AND GO ALL AROUND THIS, UH, THIS PARK.

UH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DRIVE.

I DROVE FOR 25 YEARS AND I'D SEE THE SIGN.

I NEVER WENT BACK IN THERE.

AND, AND ARNOLD AVALON WAS MY ACCOUNTANT FOR MOST DEALERS FOR 50 YEARS.

AND THE AVALON THAT OWNED THAT PROPERTY, UH, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S TURNING OUT REALLY WELL.

AND WITH THE NEW HOMES THAT ARE COMING IN, THEY'RE GREAT TIMING ON YOUR APARTMENTS.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT, SO, OKAY.

AND, UH, I GUESS THAT GETS ME TO THE END OF THE QUESTIONS ON THAT PAGE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN FOR INDULGING ME.

I KNOW I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS AND I'LL TRY TO GET THEM.

SOMETIMES.

I WAS JUST IN CONSTRUCTION MY WHOLE LIFE.

SO, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON REPORTS? NEXT ITEM IS SUGGESTED AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.

SO WE TALKED DOING A STRATEGIC MEETING SOMETIME IN THE FALL.

SO MAYBE PUT THAT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT ANYBODY ELSE, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WAIT A MINUTE.

YOU FIND THAT PAGE.

OH, OH, HERE IT IS RIGHT BEHIND IT SUGGESTED AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I'M JUST BRINGING THESE THINGS UP.

AS WE, AS WE START GOING THROUGH ANYMORE, HE COVERED THE BLUETOOTH FOR SOUND, THE EXPANDABLE ROOMS, THE INCLUSIONS OF PUBLIC EVENTS IN THE NEW REC CENTERS.

THOSE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, AND, AND I GUESS AT A TERM I USED HERE, SOMETHING THAT WE USE IN THE HOME HOME BUILDING INDUSTRY IS ATMOSPHERE.

HOW DOES IT FEEL? DOES IT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A NINETIES, 80, 70 SIXTIES MUNICIPAL BUILDING, OR DOES IT FEEL LIKE YOU COULD BE IN SOMEPLACE SPECIAL AND IT'S JUST MOST OF THE TIME, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT YOU DO TO THE WALLS AND JUST SOME LITTLE THINGS.

OKAY.

UM, OH, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I HAVE.

I'M SO SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I APOLOGIZE.

IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GO BACK TO THE REPORTS? IS THERE ANY WAY I JUST WANT TO PUT PRETTY MUCH SIMPLE STUFF.

YES, SIR.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO THE FINAL LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT STUFF'S GOING ON THERE? OH, SORRY.

WE'RE DOING THAT NOW.

UM,

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I APOLOGIZE.

SO THE FINAL LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT, WHAT DOES YEAH, SO, UH, WE, AND THE FREEZE FROM 2021, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, DEAD PLANT MATERIAL AROUND TOWN.

UH, AND SO IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, COUNCIL WAS NICE ENOUGH TO APPROVE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME, UH, REMOVE A LOT OF THAT DEAD PLANT MATERIAL AND INCREASE IT.

SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF HEAVY FOCUSED RELANDSCAPING IN A LOT OF OUR ENTRYWAYS AND A LOT OF OUR BED MEDIANS, UH, AROUND A LOT OF OUR MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS TO REMOVE THAT DEAD AND FROZEN PLANT MATERIAL OUT AND DO SOME MUCH, MUCH NEEDED, UH, RE LANDSCAPING.

AND WE'RE ON THE HOMESTRETCH OF THAT.

UH, AND SO, AND, AND IT'S REALLY MADE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THOSE AREAS.

UH, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING, KEEPING IT ALIVE, WATER, WATER, WATER.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL MY CREW HAS BEEN WELL, I IMAGINE EVERYBODY JUST KEEPING THINGS ALIVE AND THEN I APOLOGIZE.

I'VE BEEN OUT A FEW MEETINGS.

I'M GLAD TO BE BACK, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DISCUSSING ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

THE UPDATED PARK RULES IS THROUGH COMMITTEE.

WHAT'S THAT? YEAH.

SO WE HAD MET WITH COMMITTEE TO END WITH THIS.

UH, WE HAD BROUGHT THIS TO PARKS BOARD.

I FORGET HOW LONG AGO THE HOURS.

YEAH, SO WE ARE, UH, AND IT, IT WILL BE ON A COUNCIL WORK SESSION AT THE AUGUST 15TH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, UH, MEETING WORK SESSION MEETING.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE PARK HOURS TO CLOSE AT 10, EXCEPT FOR OUR ATHLETIC COMPLEXES, WHICH WOULD STAY OPEN UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

UM, UH, SOME UPDATING SOME PARK RULES FOR THE DOG PARK, SO WE CAN DO SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS SOME PARKING ISSUES, UH, TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL SOME PARKING AT CENTRAL PARK AND HEALTH PARK, WHERE WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS PARKING AND, UH, NOT LEAVING ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS FOR ACTUAL USERS OF THE PARK.

WELL, OKAY.

WHAT ARE WE ENCOUNTERING AT THE DOG PARK? UM, IT WAS REALLY JUST A UPDATING SOME RULES THAT REALLY DIDN'T WERE KIND OF, DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE'RE ON THERE AND, AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THEM MORE IN LINE WITH A DOG PARK RULES ACROSS THE AREA AND JUST, UH, GETTING RID OF SOME THINGS THAT JUST DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, LIKE AGE, LIKE HOW OLD YOU HAD TO BE TO BE IN.

YEAH.

I VAGUELY REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THE UNDER TASKS WASN'T ALLOWED IN THERE.

SO THAT'S BEEN STRUCK AND NOW IT'S, IF YOU'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 12, YOU JUST NEED TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT THOUGH.

THOSE.

SO IT'S JUST MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLEAN UP.

SO JUST SOME TIME CHANGES AND THERE WAS ONE IN THERE WE HAD NO ALCOHOL IS ALLOWED, BUT WE'RE TRUMPED BY STATE LAW AND ALLOWING ALCOHOL AND PARKS.

SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO COME OFF OF THE PARK RULE.

SO IT'S JUST SOME, IT'S REALLY SOME MINOR EDITORIAL THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE DOG PARK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY QUICKIE.

OKAY.

UH, DO YOU, DO WE THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, GIVE COUNCIL A HEADS UP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN SOME OF THESE DESIGNS, ISN'T, LET'S START WITH THE, LET'S START WITH THE ANNEX WHERE WE WILL BE THE POTENTIAL OF SERVING ALCOHOL THERE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A SET OF RULES FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, THAT WE NEED TO, WE MAY NEED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT JUST NEEDS TO COME FROM YOU, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE TO ME, COUNSEL SHOULD HAVE A HEADS UP ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR IT SHOWS UP, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA.

AND LET US DO SOME RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICIES ARE AND COME BACK AND TELL YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE, UH, AND WE CAN COME AND BRING THAT FORWARD.

AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THAT, THAT WE CAN THEN DO A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL.

IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

UH, THANKS.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT WHEN THE ANNEX OPENS UP, RATHER THAN THE FIRST PARTY GOING, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT HERE.

OKAY.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THIS IS EASY.

WHEN WORKING, I GO TO FIND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WEBSITES FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, UH, IN ONE, IN ONE PLACE, WHERE CAN I GO VISIT GARLAND.COM, GARLAND PARKS.COM, SWARM DARLIN GOTTEN GARLAND.COM.

AND I JUST FOUND THOSE IN THREE LITTLE THINGS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH, BUT WORK IT.

I FIND THAT THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES WE COULD FIND INFORMATION LIKE YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT THE TWO WEBSITES, GARLAND, TX.GOV IN PHYSIC GARLAND.

NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER URLS THAT REDIRECT YOU TO THE GARLAND FIVE GARLAND ARTS, GARLAND PARKS, YOU KNOW, REDIRECTS THAT TAKES YOU BACK TO THE GOLDEN TX.GOV.

WELL, IF YOU GO TO GARLAND, TX.GOV, THEN WE'LL GET EVERYTHING THERE.

AND WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE OFF FROM THERE, RIGHT? BUT IN ALL THESE OTHER URLS THAT YOU'RE SEEING REDIRECT YOU TO THE GARLIC, TX SUCKED, THAT'S ALL IT'S DOING.

WE'RE USING THOSE FOR PROMOTIONAL, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO SAY, GO TO GARLAND, TX.GOV.

WELL, THAT TAKES YOU TO THE CITY SIDE.

BUT IF I TELL YOU TO GO TO GARLAND PARKS.COM, IT TAKES YOU DIRECTLY TO THE PARK REPARATIONS SITE.

SO WE USE THAT.

SO VISIT GARLAND IS A ACTUAL SEPARATE SITE.

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AND THEN YOU GOT GARLAND, TX.GOV.

BUT IF YOU WILL LOCK THE LIST OF ALL OF THE ONES THAT WE USE, I CAN PROMOTE YOU PROVIDED THAT, BUT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE.

YEAH, WELL, I'M GLAD I GOT ONE OUT WELL, TH TH THEY ASTRONAUT, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE ONE THAT TAKES YOU TO ALL OF THEM TAKES YOU ALL TO THEM.

AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE ONE THAT HAS, SO IF IT'S A REDIRECT, THERE'S NOT REALLY A WEBSITE.

IT JUST SAYS, IF YOU CLICK THIS END, THIS GUN IS GOING TO SEND YOU BACK OVER TO GARLAND PARK.

UH, AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

REMEMBER, I ONLY HAD A SLIDE RULE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE.

I NEVER HAD A CALCULATOR.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OH, FOR PARKS.

I'M ON THE WHOLE CITY WHERE I CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN .

UH, YOU GUYS COVER VISIT GARLAND.

IF YOU WANT MARKETING CHORES, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE GARBAGE HOUSE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN TELL SOMEBODY, HOW CAN YOU FIND OUT EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF GARLAND GO RIGHT THERE.

AND I DIDN'T GET THAT YET.

DID I? GARLAND VA SITE GOV, BECAUSE THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LINK TO VISIT GARLAND GARLAND, TX.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE 7 46 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

WHERE WAS, WHERE WAS ANDY DENIES? HE JOINED THE COOL WEATHER OF COLORADO.