* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME [00:00:01] TO THE AUGUST 16TH, 2022 TRANSPORTATION [Transportation Infrastructure Mobility Committee Meeting on August 16, 2022.] INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE GARLAND. I'M THE CHAIR OF DYLAN HEDRICK WITH ME. I HAVE COUNCILMAN JEFF BASS AND COUNCILMAN ROBERT VIRA AS WELL. SOME OTHER GUESTS FROM CITY STAFF. UM, FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVED THE JULY 19TH, 2022 MEETING MINUTES. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT. A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES BUYOUT PROGRAM, DRAFT ORDINANCE, AND OPERATING GUIDELINES PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEN. YES, SIR. WE'VE INVITED RYAN MORTENSON THIS AFTERNOON. MOST OF YOU MET COUNCILMAN BASS. I DON'T THINK YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET HIM, BUT HE'S WITH PACHECO COKE. HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON OUR FLOOD-PRONE BUYOUT OR PROPERTIES BUYOUT ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS THE OPERATING GUIDELINES. UH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HIM, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO MENTION, WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO. I THINK WE, DYLAN, YOU MAY REMEMBER THE FEW PRESENTATIONS WE MADE WITH, WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR TYPE OF ORDINANCES, HARRIS COUNTY, AUSTIN, UM, ARLINGTON THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHERS AND THEY'VE ALL, WE'RE KIND OF DOING SOMETHING JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO, TO, I GUESS, GO ALONG WITH WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN THEIR CITIES. SOME OF THEM WERE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. HARRIS COUNTY IS JUST A MESS. ANYWAY, IT'S JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE IN HARRIS COUNTY. UH, BUT THEY ALL OPERATE JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY NOW WITH, WITH THE, WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD PREPARED, UH, FOR THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM AND SEEDING THIS WITH $4 MILLION AND, UH, FIGURING OUT WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEY WANT TO GO OUT AND BUY THESE PROPERTIES. SO WHAT WE DID IS AT FIRST, IT WAS THIS BIG ANIMAL. AND AS WE STARTED WHITTLING EVERYTHING DOWN, IT CAME TOGETHER TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS AFTERNOON IS WHAT THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM. SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO DELAY ANYMORE. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RYAN AND LET HIM GIVE THE PRESENTATION. ONE QUICK QUESTION. DO WE WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE PRESENTATION? WHAT DO YOU PREFER? I'M FINE WITH QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT. OKAY. SO JUST JUMP IN COMMITTEE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW, TOYOTA AND BOND PROGRAM SET ASIDE FOR A MILLION DOLLARS TO ASSIST YOU GUYS WITH PURCHASING FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES. UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, RIGHT? A BROWN DECEMBER, JANUARY, UM, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REACHED OUT TO CHICO KOCH TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. SO THEY COULD SPEED THE PROCESS UP AND GET SOME GUIDELINES THAT THEY REALLY LIKED. SO IN MARCH, WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH CITY STAFF AND US, UM, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THREE ITERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. UM, FIRST DRAFT, SECOND DRAFT, THIRD DRAFT, AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY, UM, AND THIS FINAL DRAFT HERE, UM, THE HOPE IS FOR, WE CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS AND THEN TAKE THAT FORWARD AND GO TO COUNCIL FOR, UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIG PICTURE IDEA OF WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, UM, THERE'S BEEN A BIG PORTION OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT KIND OF FALLS IN THEIR REALM FROM FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, BUT, UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD IN OUR KICKOFF MEETING AS WELL AS SUBSEQUENT REVIEWS. UM, THEY'VE BEEN SENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY COMMITTEE, THE CITY SURVEYOR BUILDING INSPECTION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PARKS AND REC. SO EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS AND THERE'S DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED THROUGHOUT. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE EXPECTATION FOR THEM. UM, AND SO TO GET STARTED, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THE FIRST ONE IS A MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. SO THE FIRST PART OF THE FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE HAS, I THINK THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT PARTS TO IT. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT, UH, NUMBER SIX, WHICH BASICALLY ALLOWS FOR A REDUCTION FOR A METHOD OF REDUCING FLOOD LOSSES IS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS FIRST LITTLE BULLET HERE IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD TO THAT ORDINANCE. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT FALLS AT THE END OF THE FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION THAT REALLY OUTLINES THE FLOOD PRONE PROPERTY BUYOUT. AND THESE ORDINANCES ARE MEANT TO BE A LITTLE VAGUE. UM, WE WANT TO HIT MOST OF THE SPECIFICS IN THE GUIDELINES, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW WITH THIS PROCESS, THERE'S GOING TO BE MODIFICATIONS AND TWEAKS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND LEARNING NEW THINGS AND AS REGULATIONS CHANGE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO WE WANTED TO LEAVE THIS MORE VAGUE TO ALLOW FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES AND GIVE THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND CITY COUNCIL, THOSE AUTHORITIES, AND THEN THROUGH THE GUIDELINES REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT AND HOW THE PROGRAM WOULD BE LAID OUT. OKAY. UM, THIS IS THE GRAPHIC WE PUT TOGETHER JUST FOR MORE CITIZENS, SO THEY CAN [00:05:01] SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE PROCESS AND HOW IT WOULD FUNCTION. SO THE FIRST PART IS REALLY YOUR CITY APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THIS IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO SOLICIT PEOPLE OR TRY TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S HOUSE FROM THEM. IT'S ALL VOLUNTARY. THEY'RE GOING TO SIGN A W WE ACTUALLY HAVE FORMED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THAT FORM. I ACTUALLY HAVE, YES. WE GOT A COPY OF THE FORM OF THIS FORM. OH, THAT'S THE TYRA. NO, I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN AN EMAIL. I SENT JAKE THE WORKSHEET. SO I REALIZED THAT WHEN I WAS BRINGING UP THE VERY LAST SHEET HERE, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SHEET. SO IF YOU GOT A LITTLE, VERY LAST PAGE THERE, UM, THAT LAST PAGE OUTLINES THE VOLUNTARY ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM AND THAT THE, THEY AFFIRMED, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS VOLUNTARY AND THE CITY IS NOT CONDEMNING THEIR PROPERTY. UM, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF ARLINGTON'S, UM, FORM THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS TO MAKE IT GARLAND RELATED, OBVIOUSLY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. AND THEN THE, SO CITIZENS WOULD TAKE THIS FORM, THEY'D FILL IT OUT AND PUT IN, PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAT FOR THE PRO FOR THE PROGRAM. UM, AND SO THAT'S, WE PROPOSE THAT STARTS FROM MARCH TO APRIL, EACH YEAR DURING THAT TWO MONTH WINDOW TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS. SO IT'S NOT AN EVER ONGOING PROCESS. IT'S LIMITED AT A TIME WINDOW. SO IT'S A VERY DISTINCT WE'LL TAKE APPLICATIONS HERE. YES, SIR. MS. CHAIRMAN, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL THEN IT'S COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. SO THEY WOULDN'T APPLY TERRY PROGRAM. YES. OH, OKAY. HOMEOWNER HAS TO INITIATE IT. WE DON'T GO TO THEM. THEY HAVE, OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BUY IT OUT. NOPE, THIS IS OKAY. I THINK THE VOLUNTARY SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN ONCE WANTS TO GET OUT FROM ANOTHER HOUSE AND SELL IT TO THE CITY. OKAY. SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW IN THE ACTUAL GUIDELINES, WE DO HAVE A TWEAK TO WHERE WE CAN'T ACCEPT APPLICATIONS. IF THERE'S A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING HAPPENS AT DIFFERENT TIMES. AND IF FEMA DECLARES A NATURAL DISASTER, THERE'S EXTRA MONIES AVAILABLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR. SO IT'S, OPEN-ENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. HE CAN ASK FOR APPLICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT, UM, PRIMARILY IT'S GOING TO BE A MARCH TO APRIL APPLICATION PROCESS. AND THEN FROM THERE MADE A JUNE WILL BE THE CITY REVIEW AND PRIVATIZATION. SO THE OTHER FORM YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS OUR PRIORITIZATION WORKSHEET. IT'S ACTUALLY AN EXCEL SHEET THAT, UM, FOR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT ON A LATER SLIDE. UM, BUT BASED ON THAT PRIORITIZATION AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS FROM COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO SPEND EVERY YEAR THAT WILL ROLL INTO WHICH PROPERTIES WE SELECT FOR THE YEAR, WHICH TRUMP HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH. AND THEN IT WOULD ROLL IN FROM THERE AFTER CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THOSE PURCHASES, BECAUSE ANY PURCHASES OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I BELIEVE, HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. SO AFTER CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THOSE PURCHASES, THEN THEY MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE ACTUAL BUYOUT PROCESS. UM, IN OUR ADMINISTRATION COMMUNITY, WE TALKED ABOUT RAISING THAT NUMBER OF 250,000. SO THAT'S POSSIBLE UPDATE TO PROCESS VERY SOON. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT DEFINITELY COULD CHANGE. AND WHAT'S, THAT'S IN THE GUIDELINES AND NOT THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS GOOD. UM, SO NOW WE'LL GET IN A LITTLE BIT TO THE MORE ELIGIBILITY OF WHAT, WHAT PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AND CAN APPLY. UM, CAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANT EVERY PROPERTY APPLYING. SO IT HAS TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE OF SOME SORT, WHETHER IT'S A DUPLEX, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED OR DETACHED HOME. SO THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. IT'S JUST STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AT THIS TIME. UM, THE NEXT IS IT HAS TO BE LOCATED IN A FEMA FLOOD PLAIN. SO IF IT'S NOT LOCATED IN FLAME FLOOD PLAIN, IT'S NOT EITHER. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES THAT WE WANT, OR THEY WE'D LIKE THEM TO BE CURRENT ON THEIR COUNTY AND CITY PROPERTY TAXES JUST FROM THAT STATE. AND THEN ALSO NOT HAVE ANY LANES, MORGAN LANES EXCLUDED, BUT JUST OTHER LANES THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE MORE DIFFICULT IN THE WHOLE BUYOUT PROCESS. AND THEN THE LAST IS OBVIOUSLY TO SIGN THAT STATEMENT OF VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION, AND THEN THIS GETS INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ON THAT PRIVATIZATION MATRIX AND HOW WE'RE SCORING THINGS. UM, A COUPLE OF THE BIG THINGS IS, UM, ONE WHETHER OR NOT HAS FLOOD INSURANCE THROUGH MFIP, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM. THIS'LL, IF IT DOES HAVE A CURRENT POLICY, IT ALLOWS YOU TO RETROACTIVELY GET REIMBURSED FOR SOME OF THESE FUNDS THROUGH FEMA. AND SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT SUSTAINABILITY IN ANOTHER SLIDE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GIVING POINTS FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL POINT TO IT. UM, ALSO THAT IT'S HOMESTEADED. WE WANT THESE, WE DON'T WANT, WE [00:10:01] HAVE POINTS GIVEN FOR HOMES THAT PROPERTIES, BECAUSE IT'S, PEOPLE'S ACTUAL PROPERTIES AND NOT JUST RENT HOUSES OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT. UM, THE OTHER THING IS THE REPETITIVE LOSS THROUGH FEMA. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THROUGH FEMA. THERE'S SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, WHICH ARE STRUCTURES THAT FLOOD HAVE HAD TWO MAJOR FLOODS OR THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AND THEN THERE'S REPETITIVE LOSS, WHICH, WHICH IS THE LESSER CATEGORY, BUT THEY FLOOD OFTEN AND IT'S DOCUMENTED THROUGH FEMA. AND SO IF IT'S A SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS PROPERTY, THAT MEANS IT'S FLOODED SEVERAL TIMES. AND IT'S ONE THAT THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO GET, CAUSE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN. UM, SAME THING WITH THE PAIR OF LOSS THERE, THEIR DOLLAR VALUES JUST DON'T QUITE GO AS HIGH FOR THE CLAIMS INVOLVED, BUT THEY FLOODED TWO TO FOUR TIMES OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. SO, UM, THEY'RE ONES THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF AND IF POSSIBLE, SO WE GET QUITE A FEW POINTS FOR THOSE TO PUT THEM HIGHER ON THE LIST. UM, THE OTHER THING WE HAVE IS JUST NUMBER OF REPORTED FLOODING EVENTS TO THE CITY. CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS FLOOD INSURANCE. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED THROUGH FEMA. SO IF THE CITY KNOWS OF OTHER FLOODING EVENTS OR THEY CAN DOCUMENT THAT WE WERE FLOODED HERE AND HERE, THESE OTHER TIMEFRAMES, UM, WE'RE GIVING SOME POINTS FOR THAT. UM, ALSO HOW DEEP THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO BASED ON THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN, THE DEPTH OF THE BASE FLOOR FENDER OR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION. SO THE DEEPER THEY'RE IN THE MORE POINTS THEY GET, CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE. IS THAT NUMBER ANY POINT ON THE CER ON THE PROPERTY OR ONLY ON THE FINISHED FINISHED FLOOR? OKAY. YEAH, IT'S JUST FINISHED FLOOR. AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO ARE GIVING POINTS TO BEING ADJACENT TO OTHER PROPERTY BUYOUTS BECAUSE THE MORE LAND CONTIGUOUS LAND, THE CITY OBTAINS, THE MORE THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO WITH IT SOMEDAY. UM, SO THERE'S LOW POINTS THERE. UM, SAME THING WITH THE FUTURE MITIGATION PROJECT. SO IF THE CITY'S LOOKING HAS IT IN THEIR GRAND, THAT WE NEED A FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT IN THIS AREA. THEN IF THIS A HOUSE FALLS IN THAT AREA, THEN THEY GET SOME ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR THAT JUST BECAUSE IT COULD BE USED FOR BY THE CITY FOR THAT. AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE LAST ONES IS THE BCR. SO THE BENEFIT COST RATIO IS A BIG ONE FOR FEMA, UM, TO GET THOSE MATCHING FUNDS, YOU NEED TO SHOW THAT IT'S ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. SO IT CAN. SO BASED ON HOW DEEP THE DIFFERENT FLOOD EVENTS GET, WE CAN CALCULATE DAMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS AGAINST THAT FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION DEPENDING ON THAT VERSUS THE COST OF BUYING THE HOUSE, DEMOING IT, PUTTING IT BACK TO GRADE. UM, WE CAN DETERMINE IF THAT COST BENEFIT RATIO IS, AND IF IT'S OVER ONE, THERE'S A GREAT CHANCE FEMA IS GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU FOR THAT MONEY. UM, SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE CALCULATIONS WE NEED TO DO. AND THEN THE LAST IS ABOUT THE CUTE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THEY WANT TO TAKE ON THE MAINTENANCE OF IT. UM, SO IF WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS AN HOA OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING, THEY WANT A LITTLE COMMUNITY GARDEN, OR THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT OFF THE CITY'S PLATE, WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE AND HAVE SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, THEN THEY GET SOME ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR THERE. UM, ALL IN ALL THIS EQUATES TO A HUNDRED POINTS. UM, AND SO IT WAS A GOOD BASIS FOR HOW WE'VE KIND OF DETERMINED. SO RYAN ON THIS RIGHT HERE, UM, SOME OF THESE, I GUESS, ARE THEY MEANT TO BE A LITTLE SUBJECTIVE, LIKE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT KIND OF THING. I MEAN, AND THEN ALSO ON THE HOMESTEAD, IF IT'S A DUPLEX, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S WORDED, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT IF IT'S A QUADPLEX OR DUPLEX AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE WHOLE THING'S NOT HOMESTEADED. SO I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE SUBJECTIVITY ON SOME OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS OR NOT. WELL, WE WERE LOOKING FOR BASICALLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. NOW WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO MULTI-FAMILY. THOSE ARE STILL CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY'RE MULTIFAMILY. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT, OKAY, IS IT SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX, AND THEN OWNER, AND THEN BASICALLY ONE OWNER TYPE. W DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CITY THAT WE THINK MIGHT QUALIFY FOR THIS, THE SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, REPETITIVE LOSS? I THINK W WE HAVE 40 ON THE LIST OF SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS OF SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, WHICH HERE ON ANOTHER SLIDE OR TWO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNT FROM FEMA FOR THE TWO CATEGORIES. AND THEN FEMA WILL ALSO REIMBURSE YOU AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A, A, UM, A FLOOD, UH, UH, BASICALLY A FLOOD INSURANCE. UH, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT A REPETITIVE LOSS OR SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, FEMA WILL ACTUALLY STILL REIMBURSE SOME FUNDING. IF THEY'RE IN THE FLOOD PINE, THEY'LL REINFORCE BURST SOME OF THE FUNDING UP TO, I THINK IT WAS 75%, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO THAT ON, ON ONE OF THE NEXT SLIDES OF WHAT FEMA, WHERE REIMBURSE OKAY. IN THESE PROPERTIES, RIGHT? THANK YOU. AND THEN ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS. SO WE'VE SET IT UP BECAUSE THERE'S $4 MILLION RIGHT NOW, WE SET IT UP AS A MAXIMUM OF A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR, JUST TO START THAT PROCESS. CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO SPEND $4 MILLION FIRST YEAR AND BE DONE. SO, [00:15:01] UM, AND ALSO DEPENDING ON IF IT'S RAINING OR NOT, AND FLOODING IS GOING TO, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH, LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF DEMAND RIGHT NOW. NOBODY'S FLOODING RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY LOW RIGHT NOW. SO WE SET IT UP TO EXTEND IT OVER SEVERAL YEAR PERIOD. IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS DEVELOPED FOR IT, THAT WAY WE CAN GET A DIVERSE APPLICATION SECTION AND GET AS MANY HOUSES POTENTIALLY INVOLVED AS POSSIBLE. UM, THE OTHER THING WE DID IS WE KEPT IT AT $350,000, UM, BETWEEN THE $350,000 CAP FOR IT. AND WE'RE BASING THIS ON APPRAISED VALUE. UM, CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'VE SET IT UP AS IF OR THE CITY WILL PAY THE APPRAISED VALUE FOR THE HOUSE THROUGH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OR THE RESIDENT CAN GO HAVE THEIR OWN APPRAISAL DONE AND THEY CAN NEGOTIATE FROM THERE. UM, JUST SO THE CITY'S NOT SPENDING MONEY, THEY DON'T HAVE JUST THE, FOR EVERYBODY, EVERY NEGOTIATION TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO COME TO THAT AGREEMENT. SO, UM, WE SET IT UP BASED ON THAT. AND THROUGH THIS, I BELIEVE THIS CAPTURES OVER 80% OF THE SPHERE, REPETITIVE LOSS, REPETITIVE LOSS STRUCTURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY. UM, SO WE, SO WE WENT WITH THAT VALUE FOR NOW. AND THEN, UM, THIS WOULD GET US TWO TO THREE HOUSES PER YEAR, ESSENTIALLY AFTER DEMO, AFTER, UM, ALL THE OTHER FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO WE FIGURED THAT WAS A GOOD TARGET AND SOMETHING CITY STAFF COULD HANDLE NOT DOING WITHOUT HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF. RIGHT. SO TO RUN THE PROGRAM BASICALLY, UM, AND THEN THE LAST KIND OF BULLET IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES WILL BE INVESTIGATED FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROGRAM. AND THE LAST SLIDE KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, CAUSE WE'VE SET IT UP TO WHERE THE CITY IS GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASES AND THEN LOOK FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON THE BACK END INSTEAD OF THE PROCESS. CAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER, THE OTHER WAY TO BEGIN WITH, TO WHERE WE'D ASK FOR APPLICATIONS AND THEN APPLY FOR FUNDING. AND THEN ONCE THE FUNDING WAS KNOWN, THEN WE'D GO THROUGH IT, THE BUYOUT PROCESS AND THAT WHEN YOU LAID IT ALL OUT ON PAPER, IT WAS GOING TO BE A YEAR OR MORE BY THE TIME THEY APPLIED TO THE END POINT WHERE YOU DID FIND OUT THEY GOT MONEY OR NOT. SO, UM, THE WAY WE SET IT UP NOW IS THEY CAN START THE PROCESS, KNOW WHAT PROPERTIES THEY'RE GOING TO PURCHASE. THEN THE CITY CAN GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT. AND BY THE TIME THE NEXT CYCLE ROLLS AROUND, THEY'LL HAVE FOUND OUT IF THEY GOT REIMBURSED FOR THAT MONEY OR NOT. SO THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THOSE, THE DATES THAT ARE IN THE CYCLE UP FRONT. UM, AND THEN THE LAST KIND OF THINGS AFTER WE'VE PRIORITIZED SELECTED THE PROPERTIES FIGURED OUT WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH FOR THE YEAR. UM, THE SELECTION IS STRICTLY BASED ON THE PRIORITIZATION SCORING. SO HOWEVER THOSE SCORES LAID OUT THE TOP TWO OR THREE PROPERTIES, UM, WITHIN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE FOR THE YEAR, UM, WOULD BE SELECTED THEN THAT WOULD BE MOVE FORWARD WITH. UM, AND THEN THE BUYOUT PROCESS IS BASICALLY YOUR, YOUR APPRAISAL, YOUR LAND SURVEY. IF THERE'S NO PLATS FOR THE PROPERTIES OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO GO DO A NEW SURVEY FOR THE PROPERTY. BUT, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS, WHICH TYPICALLY ARE A THREE TO $4,000, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ASBESTOS LEAD PAINT OR ANY SEPTIC OR ANY OTHER POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT COULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY. UM, THEN THE RELOCATION PROCESS. SO WE HAVE A 90 DAY WINDOW TO HELP RELOCATE THOSE, THOSE RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE THE CITY'S GOT ABOUT THE CURRENT CURRENT FEES ARE ABOUT FOUR TO $5,000 TO RELOCATE RESIDENTS FROM THOSE HOMES AND THEN FINALLY THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP. AND SO THEN ONCE THE CITY ACTUALLY TAKES OWNERSHIP, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING OR PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE PROPERTIES. ONE IS, UM, DEDI DEDICATING AND MAINTAINING THEM IN PERPETUITY AS OPEN SPACE AND CONSERVATION OF NATURAL FLOODPLAIN USE. SO AFTER, AFTER THEY'RE TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY, THEY WILL BE DEDICATED AND NO LONGER BE ABLE TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE DONE WITH THEM UNLESS SOME OTHER CRITERIA ARE MET, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT HERE IN A SECOND. UM, SO SOME PERMANENT STRUCTURES THAT THE CITY HAS IN THEIR ORDINANCES NOW THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, UM, PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT HAVE OPEN SIDES. SO PAVILIONS, THAT KIND OF THING, UM, CAN BE BUILT ON THEM. PUBLIC RESTROOMS COULD BE INSTALLED HERE, WHICH ALL THESE SITES WILL HAVE WATER AND SANITARY AND ALL THOSE OTHER UTILITIES THERE JUST CAUSE THEIR HOMES. UM, THEY MAY HAVE TO BE UP-SIZED A LITTLE BIT JUST TO HANDLE MORE COMMERCIAL USE THAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE. SO IT'D BE FAIRLY EASY TO ADD A BATHROOM IF YOU WANT IT TO OR NEEDED TO, IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH OF THEM IN A ROW. UM, AND THE OTHER LAST THING IS FOR PROPERTY REDEVELOPMENT. SO IF IT'S JUST CITY FUNDED ACQUISITIONS, WE DON'T GO FOR FEMA GRANT REIMBURSEMENT ON A PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S ABILITY TO RECLAIM SOME OF THAT FLOODPLAIN OR REDEVELOP IT AND SELL A PORTION OF IT OFF. UM, THEN WE'VE LEFT THAT OPEN-ENDED SO THE CITY COULD JUST BUY THE PROPERTIES THEMSELVES AND [00:20:01] MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AS POSSIBLE. SO WE WANTED TO LEAVE THAT AS A POTENTIAL OPTION. UM, AND THEN, THEN, SO AFTER THE DEDICATION AND ALL THAT'S TAKEN PLACE, THEN WE GET INTO THE DEMOLITION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE OWNERS HAVE LEFT. UM, WE'D HAVE TO GET A DEMO PERMIT THROUGH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS. WE HAVE TO GET A FLOOD PLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, UM, JUST CAUSE YOU'RE DOING WORK IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. AND THEN WE'D GO OUT FOR BID TO HIRE CONTRACTORS TO ACTUALLY DO THE DEMO WORK FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE THERE, UM, AND RESTORE THEM BACK TO BASICALLY DEMO EVERYTHING DOWN, HAUL OFF ALL THE DEBRIS, TRIED TO GRADE THE LOTS BACK AT A 1% GRADE, SOMETHING MANAGEABLE. UM, AND DEPENDING ON THE FUTURE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT PARKS IS USED, UM, COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF LOW MAINTENANCE VEGETATION, WHETHER IT'S TREES AND SHRUBS TO BE REALLY LOW MAINTENANCE OR WHETHER IT'S A MORE NATIVE GRASS MIX THAT'S NEEDS TO BE MOWED TWO TO THREE TIMES A YEAR, OR IS THE HOA GOING TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT AND THEY WANT ACTUAL GRASS AND THEY'LL MOW IT WEEKLY. UM, SO DEPENDING ON HOW THE FUTURE USE OF THAT GOES IS HOW WE WOULD GO BACK WITH MAINTENANCE ASPECTS OF IT. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE FUTURE USE AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GET THAT HOA AGREEMENT, RYAN, WHEN YOU SAID, IF THE HOA TAKES OWNERSHIP OF IT, YOU JUST MEANT FIGURATIVELY, NOT, NOT OWNERSHIP, JUST THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. OKAY. OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE, YEAH. MAINTAINING IS ALWAYS RUNNING DOUBLE CHECK THAT. THANK YOU. YES. AND THEN THE LAST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS SUSTAINABILITY. SO HOW DO WE KEEP THIS FUN GOING? YOU GUYS HAVE SET $4 MILLION ASIDE ALREADY. HOW DO WE KEEP THAT GOING? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BOND MONEY EVERY FIVE YEARS TO REESTABLISH THAT FUND AND KEEP PURCHASING THESE PROPERTIES. SO THE FIRST THING IS FEMA'S DEVELOPED, THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN WORK THROUGH TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR FUNDS. SO A COUPLE OF THE FIRST THINGS, THE PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE AN ACTIVE FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY. SO IF IT HAS AN ACTIVE FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY AND WE CAN SHOW THAT THE BENEFIT COST RATIO IS GREATER THAN ONE, THEN WE CAN GO FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON THESE PROPERTIES, THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS. UM, THE OTHER THING TO NOTE ON THE BENEFIT COST RATIO, FEMA HAS ESTABLISHED, UM, FIRST SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS AND REPETITIVE LOSS STRUCTURES. IF THE PURCHASE PRICE AND DEMO COSTS ARE LESS THAN $323,000, IT AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO BENEFIT COST RATIO. THEY'VE DONE THE BENEFIT COST RATIO IN THEIR OWN TERMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UM, THERE IS A FLAG IN THERE THAT YOU CAN ADJUST IT BASED ON SOME CONSTRUCTION COSTS, UM, FOR YOUR LOCAL AREA. BUT FOR THESE OF THE PROGRAM, WE HAVE A $323,000 NUMBER IN THERE TOO, THAT AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES FOR THAT VCR. UM, SO IF YOU MEET THOSE TWO CRITERIA CRITERIA, FEMA HAS WHAT THEIR FLOOD MITIGATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS. AND THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROGRAM. THEY HAVE $160 MILLION EVERY YEAR TO HELP OUT SLED MITIGATION, PROG PROJECTS, BUYOUT HOUSES, ALL SORTS OF THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, BUT IF, BUT IF YOU'RE A SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS STRUCTURE AND YOU APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, CITIES CAN APPLY THEMSELVES. UM, STATES ARE THE ONES THAT CAN ACTUALLY APPLY. SO THE TEXT OF ALL TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS STARTING IN DECEMBER OF EVERY YEAR. UM, AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE YOU COMMENTS ON YOUR APPLICATION AND WHATNOT THROUGH JANUARY. AND THEN THEY S THEY APPLY TO FEMA AS A STATE IN JANUARY, AND THEN FEMA BACK IN ABOUT MAY WITH THEIR ALLOCATION OF FUNDS AND WHO'S GETTING MONEY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS STRUCTURES, THEY'LL REIMBURSE YOU FOR UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COSTS. SO FOR THE COMPLETE COST OF THE ACQUISITION, THE DEMO, THE REGRADING, THE REVEGETATION, ANY OF THE SURVEYS, ANY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL, SO COMPLETE ASPECTS. SO IT REALLY BEHOOVES US IF IT IS A SEVERE, REPETITIVE LOSS, OR EVEN THE REPETITIVE LOSS PROPERTIES, IT'S UP TO 90%. SO THOSE, THOSE REALLY MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE. IF WE CAN FIND THOSE PROPERTIES AND THEN APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR THOSE, UM, THEY ALMOST TALKING WITH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND LOOK AT READING, GOING THROUGH THE FEMA APPLICATIONS, THOSE ARE ALMOST SLAM DUNKS TO GET REIMBURSED FOR. AND AS IT'S EVEN NOT, I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU DO GET DENIED ONE YEAR, YOU CAN REAPPLY THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE FUNDING RAN OUT FOR SOME REASON, OR THEY HAD OTHER PROJECTS HIT. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ONE AND DONE EITHER. SO, UM, AT SOME POINT YOU WOULD GET REIMBURSED FOR THOSE FUNDS. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS SO, AND SO IF A PROPERTY IS INSURED STILL, BUT IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS OR REPETITIVE LOSS STRUCTURES, YOU CAN STILL GET UP TO 75% COST REIMBURSEMENT. SO, [00:25:01] UM, THAT'S THE EASIEST PROGRAM. THERE'S ALSO THE BRICK FUNDING, WHICH IS, THEY DON'T QUITE MATCH THE SAME AS WHAT THE FMA DOES, BUT THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THE FMA DOES. SO THEY HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY. UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE PROJECTS, BUT THEY DO HAVE IT IN THERE TO PURCHASE, UM, BUYOUTS FLOODING PROVIDES AS WELL. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE USUALLY A 75, 25. WHAT PROJECTS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT RATHER THAN BUYOUTS? UM, BIG FLOOD PROJECTS LIKE THE TUNNEL DOWNTOWN, OR LIKE THOSE BIG PROJECTS THAT ARE LATE ALLEVIATE FUND FLOODING AND ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT AVENUES. AND THEN THAT'S LED GOT MESSED UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN SUMMARY, SO KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE WE'RE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS AND THEN GO INTO CITY COUNCIL FOR ORDINANCE AND GUIDELINE APPROVAL. ONCE WE HAVE THAT, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO START THE APPLICATION PROJECT PROCESSES NEXT SPRING, AND THEN GO INTO CITI REVIEW PRIORITIZATION, THE BUYOUT PROCESS FUNDING AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND THEN JUST, HOPEFULLY THE CYCLE JUST KEEPS REPEATING ITSELF AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROGRAM AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE. YES. SO HOW ARE WE ALLOWED TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, MARKET TO PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY FOR THIS? SO IN HERE WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, AVENUES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EMAILS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH, UM, THEIR WATER BILL, WHETHER IT'S POSTING ON A WEBSITE, UM, THE, WE ARE ALLOWED DOING, WE ARE ALLOWED TO INITIATE. YES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE THAT WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM AVAILABLE THERE'S DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR YOU GUYS TO APPLY. PERFECT. SO WE CAN CONTACT THESE 40 INDIVIDUALS AND SAY, WE THINK YOU QUALIFY FOR THIS. YES. UM, OUR, OUR GOAL WOULD BE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE REPETITIVE LOSS AND SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, WE WOULD DEFINITELY MAIL A LETTER TO THEM SIGNIFYING, HEY, WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM READY TO GO. UM, BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE PRO THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON FIRST, BECAUSE THOSE HAVE THE HIGHEST, UM, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST BASE BENEFIT TO COST RATIO FOR PURCHASING THE MOST LIKELY TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT BACK TO 90% BACK FOR MOST OF THOSE. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY TARGET THEM FIRST AND SEE WHAT THE INTEREST IS. AND, UH, BUT DEFINITELY WOULD OFFER ALSO PROBABLY ADVERTISE, UM, IN THE GARLAND PRESS. UH, THERE MIGHT BE A MAILING IN THE UTILITY BILLING THAT, BUT SEE THAT GOES TO EVERYBODY. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SO WE WE'D PROBABLY LOOK MORE AT THE, AT LEAST AT THE, UM, GARLAND PRESS. AND THEN AS WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM, IF WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH IN AS INTERESTS, WE'LL, WE'LL TARGET MORE THAT WE CAN GET A LIST OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE POLICIES FROM FEMA. AND WE CAN TARGET THOSE PROPERTIES TO, IF WE DON'T GET AN INTEREST FROM THE REPETITIVE LOSS AND SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS, WE CAN OPEN IT UP IN THE, IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS TO TRY TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE PROPERTIES THAT DO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE WILLING TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, YEAH, AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MARKETED TOWARD THE REPETITIVE LOSS AND SEVERE LOSS FIRST. RIGHT. UM, NOW ON ONE SLIDE, YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S TWO TO THREE PROPERTIES PER YEAR. OKAY. THAT IS, I MEAN, THAT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE, RIGHT? THAT'S WITH NO REIMBURSEMENT. SO HOW LONG WAS THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS AND IS THAT THAT 4 MILLION TOTAL IN THERE? ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT THAT FOR SOME LIKE CAPITAL FOR FUNDING AND THEN THAT JUST KEEPS GETTING REPLENISHED WITH THE, WITH THE REIMBURSEMENTS, THE IDEA. SO, OKAY. SO THAT TWO TO THREE PER YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE GET REIMBURSED, THAT NUMBER COULD ELEVATE. SO WE HAVE THIS SET UP TO WHERE YOUR MARCH, APRIL, WHERE YOU'RE TAKING APPLICATIONS MADE A JUNE, YOU DECIDE WHICH HOUSES YOU'RE GOING TO DO. UM, TYPICALLY THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD OPENS APPLICATIONS OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER. UM, SO THAT'S WHEN THEY ARE TAKE THAT BACK, THEY OPEN THEM IN NOVEMBER AND GO THROUGH JANUARY. AND SO WE'VE SET THIS UP TO WHERE FEMA USUALLY DECIDES ABOUT MAY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE FOR, OR WHO GETS EACH PORTION OF THE PIE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T SET UP THIS WAY. CAUSE THAT MEANS WHEN THE CITY SELECTING THE NEXT ROUND OF CANDIDATES, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THEY'VE HEARD BACK FROM FEMA. THEY KNOW IF THEY GOT REIMBURSED FOR THOSE PROPERTIES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR NOT, AND THEY CAN JUST REGULATE THE FUND A LITTLE BETTER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR. WE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS NEXT YEAR AND WE JUST DON'T GET REIMBURSED. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE FUNDS ARE GONE. OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE TIME OF APPLICATION TO THE TIME OF REIMBURSEMENT. LET'S SAY THE APPLICATION IS WE GET THE APPLICATION IN APRIL. SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION TO REIMBURSEMENT AT ABOUT ONE YEAR. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE PROBABLY THE FIRST ITERATION. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO THROUGH TWO CYCLES OF THE PURCHASE AND WE'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SECOND ROUND [00:30:01] OF REVIEW ABOUT THE TIME WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM FEMA ON THE FIRST ROUND. YES, SIR. SO WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE GOING THROUGH TO TWO ROUNDS OF THIS BEFORE WE REALLY SEE THE REIMBURSEMENT WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. YOU'LL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND ROUND BEFORE WE GET REIMBURSED FROM THE FIRST AND SECOND, IT'S PROBABLY EXPEND THE FUNDS. PROBABLY IF YOU SELECT AT THE END OF JUNE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY BUY THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE YOU HAD TO GIVE THEM 90 DAYS TO MOVE OUT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THERE'S, IT'S PROBABLY SIX MONTHS OF ACTUALLY BEING OUT OF THE FUNDS. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. CAN WE CONCENTRATE ON THOSE 40 PEOPLE, 40 HOUSES Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE CITY. YES, SIR. THAT, THAT GIVE YOU, PUT IT ON THAT GARLAND PRESS. THAT'S THE WHOLE CITY. YES, SIR. THAT EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SAYING. CONCENTRATE ON THE ONES THAT WE DIDN'T. WE, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WE HAVE THE LIST OF THOSE 40 ADDRESSES AND WE WILL MAIL AND A LETTER TO THEM DIRECTLY, UH, INFORMING THEM OF THIS PROGRAM AND THAT, AND THAT THE CITY HAS THIS PROGRAM AVAILABLE. AND IF THEY'RE INTERESTED TO PLEASE CONTACT US AND, AND SO BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, CONCENTRATE ON THOSE 40 ONES THAT WE GOT. THAT WAY WE CAN WORK IT OUT THEN. YEAH. SECTION TWO OF OUR ACTUAL GUIDELINES ACTUALLY HAVE THE PROGRAM OUTREACH AND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. AND THE FIRST ONE IS DIRECT MAILING CAMPAIGN TO THOSE REPETITIVE LOSS AND SEVERE REPETITIVE LOSS PROPERTIES. SO COME TO US AND JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S AVAILABLE. AND IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF THEIR HOUSE EASILY. THEY'VE GOT QUESTIONS. COME YOU GO. YEP. THEY'RE GOOD. THAT'S IT FOR ME? OKAY. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ALSO ABOUT THE COUNCIL INVESTS ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLAR LIMIT. UH, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT EXPENDING ALL THESE FUNDS UP FRONT AS MUCH. UH, THIS IS A BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS, WE WOULD HOPE TO GET ALL THESE BOND PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS IMPLEMENTED WITHIN A SEVEN YEAR TIMELINE. WE'RE TALKING NEXT YEAR. IT OPENS THAT'S THREE YEAR, FOUR YEARS THEN PAST WHEN THE BOND WAS PASSED IN MAY OF 2019. UM, IF YOU'RE ONLY DOING A MILLION A YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO PUSH US PAST THE SEVEN YEAR TIMELINE. I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE PROPERTIES IF WE COULD DO THEM EACH YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A SIX OR SEVEN OR 10 APPLICANTS, WE'RE ONLY LIMITED TO THREE. THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES IF A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER THAT WE COULD DO AT ONE TIME AND, UH, SAVE SOME COST. SO I'M NOT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT $1 MILLION LIMIT, YOU KNOW, LIFTED, OR MAYBE EVEN ELIMINATED JUST MENTIONED MAYBE THE CAPACITY OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS IS THE FACTOR THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON THIS PROGRAM FOR A FEW YEARS, UNTIL WE GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR FEENA, I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT AT LEAST WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS BOND PROGRAM, WHICH WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS NOW THREE YEARS AGO. AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT IMPLEMENTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YEP. I AGREE WITH THAT. AND ACTUALLY, IF WE DOUBLED IT, THEN THAT WOULD STILL WORK JUST FINE WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE YOU GOT TO THE FIRST YEAR TO THE SECOND YEAR AND THEN YOU START GETTING REIMBURSED FROM THE FIRST YEAR. SO, AND, AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID LIMIT THIS, UM, NOT ONLY JUST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT IT'S TWO TO THREE PROPERTIES, UH, THIS DOES TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME. IT'S ENGINEERING. THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKING THROUGH ALL THESE, UM, AND STAFF. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS TRYING TO FIND, UM, IT IT'S, IT'S AN ADDED, UH, AS FAR AS AN ADDED, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE WORKED ON PURCHASING PROPERTIES BEFORE. IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME. IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORTS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE GOT A LIMITED, BUT ALSO, UM, THE CIP, THIS IS ACTUALLY A CIP FUNDED PROJECT. SO IT WILL IN A GIVEN YEAR, IF YOU EXPEND TWO TO THREE, $4 MILLION UPFRONT, THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS THAT I KNOW ARE ON THE CIP LIST. IN OUR 2019 BUMPER, YOU'RE TAKING UP THE CAPACITY. I WAS WONDERING BUY OUR BOND CAPACITY UNIT. SO WE GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH INTEREST IT IS IN, IN THE INITIAL, UM, AS FAR AS THE INITIAL MAILING TO ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND IF THERE BE, IF THERE BECOMES AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE, THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT AT THAT TIME, THIS IS LIMITED TO IT'S IN OUR GUIDELINES. SO THAT IS NUMBER IS FLEXIBLE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE GUIDELINES AND NOT IN THE ORDINANCE. UM, AND WE DO HAVE IN HERE THAT THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING CAN REQUEST TO SPEND MORE MONEY DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATIONS AND WHAT, UM, IS SUBMITTED. BUT WE JUST, WE SET THAT LIMIT IN A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO HAVE A CAP IN THERE. SO IT'S A NUMBER THAT SOMEBODY GOT TO GO ASK MICHAEL OR SOMEBODY ELSE FOR TO USE MORE. I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY PUSHED SOME OF OUR OTHER DRAINAGE BOND PROJECTS AWAY, AND I'D HATE TO EVEN PUSH THESE OUT FURTHER THAN NECESSARY IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, THAT WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. OH, WE'VE GOT TO BRING YOU TO THE COUNCIL. WELL LIKE THIS FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO DECIDE, AND WE CAN TAKE [00:35:01] OUR COMMITTEE DECISION TO COUNCIL. SO WHAT DOES THE COMMITTEE THINK ABOUT AT LIMIT OR ALLOCATE? I MEAN, UH, SYSTEM MANAGER, REX, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, BONK PASTY PERHAPS? YEAH, I, THIS IS, THIS IS A SMALL AMOUNT IN COMPARISON TO OUR FULL, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE GO OUT AND ISSUE BONDS FOR EACH YEAR. AND SO I WOULDN'T, WELL, I THINK THE, THE PROCESS WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE ACTUALLY GET, BUT I THINK THERE'S, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT EVEN SPENDING $4 MILLION IN ONE YEAR, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THAT. UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S SITTING AROUND WAITING TO BE SPENT. SO I, I HEAR YOU SAY THAT LET'S, LET'S MOVE AS QUICK AS WE CAN AND WE CAN MAKE THE MONEY WORK FOR THAT. I WOULD JUST HATE TO HAVE 20 APPLICANTS IN OUR FIRST YEAR. AND WE'RE SAYING, SORRY, 17 OF YOU GUYS, WE CAN'T HANDLE IT. YOU KNOW? AND THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD, WE THOUGHT THE SAME THING. YEAH. YEP. SO WE CAN MAKE THE MONEY SIDE OF IT WORK. OKAY. I AGREE. I AGREE WITH THE CHAIR. I DON'T, I DON'T WANT MONEY TO BE THE LIMITING FACTOR. AND YET IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROGRAM OF 4 MILLION, THAT'S LESS THAN 1% OF THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM. SO YEAH, I THINK I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THE MONEY TO BE LIMITING FACTOR. UM, I'M HAPPY JUST TO PUT IT, TAKE THAT LIMIT AND THEN LEAVE IT UP TO THE ENGINEERING DIRECTOR ON PASTURE. YOU GUYS. YEAH. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN FISHER OVER HERE IS GOING TO BE HANDLING PERHAPS WELL, THEN WE'LL SEE THE POPULARITY OF THE PROGRAM AND WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF BURDEN THAT PLACES ON, ON STAFF. YEAH. OKAY. BEN EVER STARTS RAINING AGAIN. YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT WE'LL HAVE. I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A HUNDRED YEAR STORM MAY HIT, IT COULD HIT NEXT YEAR AND EFFECT ALL THESE AND THEN THEY'RE ALL WORKING. SOME, I TH I THINK EVERYTHING I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT, I'M HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING AND WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE, THE LIMITING FACTOR OF A MILLION, I GOT GREAT. GOOD. WE ALL AGREE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. WELL, SO EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE AND THEN PRESENT THE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS CONCISE AND EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. OKAY. DOES THAT MEAN YES, SIR. ONE MORE, ONE MORE GO. OKAY. YES. YEAH, NO, I, I WANT TO RECREATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DID ON OUR BOND ISSUE TOO. WE WANTED TO BUILD THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE COULD, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT LIKE THIS. OH, FOR WAY TOO LONG. OF COURSE THERE WERE SOME MANY LITTLE BITTY THINGS COMING OUT IN OH FOUR THAT WE HAD A LITTLE DICTATOR TOO. SO THAT MAKES IT A LOT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, BUT SEVEN YEARS IS GOOD. I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, I GUESS, REGARDING THIS FORM, WHAT SAFEGUARDS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER SIGNING THIS WELL? IS THAT JUST SOMETHING YOU DO AS PART OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE DAY? UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GET INTO A DECAL, DALLAS COUNTY TAX RECORDS HAS THE OWNER OF RECORD AND WE CAN SEARCH. WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE DATABASE, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEARCH THE RECORDS TO MAKE SURE WHO HAS THE CURRENT DATE ON THAT. SO WE, WE CAN, WE CAN FIND THAT OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. OKAY, GREAT. THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T START A BULLDOZE IN TOO SOON. NO, WE WANT, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THEN HE HAS, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THEY WOULDN'T DO THE WRONG GALS. WELL, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN. NO, WE DO. WE DON'T NEED THAT EXIT. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT BEING THE LAST TIME, OUR AGENDA AND THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE FOR AUGUST 16TH, 2022 IS A GERM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.