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GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME

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TO THE,

[Environmental and Community Advisory Board on October 12, 2022.]

UH, OCTOBER YAB MEETING.

UH, LET'S START WITH, UH, INTRODUCTIONS WITH DAPHNE OVER HERE.

DAPHNE DEAN, DISTRICT TWO PRESENT JU VILLA PONDO.

STAFF LIAISON.

JIM DOBBINS, DISTRICT ONE, VICE CHAIR BETTY ROBERTS, DISTRICT FIVE.

ROB, DISTRICT EIGHT.

KEN RISKER, MAYOR'S APPOINTEE PRESENT.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST ITEM ON AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

YOU MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.

ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

MAKE A MOTION WE ACCEPT AS IS PRESENTED.

OKAY.

MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

UM, NOW THE FIRST ITEM, UM, IS A SIDEWALK PROGRAM OVERVIEW WITH, UH, STEVE OLIVER.

THANK Y'ALL.

UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW YOU, I'M STEVE OLIVER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE STRAIGHT DEPARTMENT, AND I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW ON OUR SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

FIRST OF ALL, AND MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF IT BY ORDINANCE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY.

AND BASICALLY THE, THE ORDINANCE HAS A, A LOT OF THINGS IT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

THE BIG THINGS ARE IF THERE'S MORE THAN A TWO INCH VERTICAL SEPARATION, AND IF THERE'S ONE MORE THAN ONE AND A HALF INCH SEPARATION BETWEEN ANY, ANY TWO SLABS IN THE SIDEWALK, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN SPOILED FINISH.

AND, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MISSING IF THERE'S AN EXCESSIVE CROSS SLOPE OR IF YOU'VE GOT THE SIDEWALK SINKING SO THAT IT'S HOLDING WATER.

THERE'S THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S THE ORDINANCE AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN THE CODE ORDINANCES.

SO THAT INITIAL ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 1990, AND IT BASICALLY SAID THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON TOP F AND G STREET, WHICH ARE RE THE TWO RESIDENTIAL IN CATEGORIES, THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, ARE ON THE THIRD PLAN, ARE, ARE ELIGIBLE FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM.

AND THE STANDARD COST SHARE, IF THE SIDEWALK MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR REPLACEMENT, IS THAT WOULD BE 50% CITY FUNDED AND 50% RESIDENT FUNDED.

AND THAT IS IN A SIDEWALK.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE ENTIRE LENGTH IN FRONT OF A PROPERTY.

IT'S BASICALLY THE PART THAT'S FAILED THAT THE CITY WILL PARTICIPATE IN.

IN JULY OF 2020, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE, UH, REVISED ORDINANCE, WHICH CHANGED SOME, CHANGED SOME THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE, AND PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS AND ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, SO LIKE I SAID, WE'LL CONTINUE THE 50 50 COST YEAR, BUT IF YOU ARE THE HOMEOWNER, IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WITH A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, YOU CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL 15% REDUCTION.

IF YOU LIVE IN A PART OF CITY THAT'S DESIGNATED AS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AREA, WHICH APPROXIMATELY I THINK 40, 50% OF THE CITY IS DESIGNATED AS CDBG AREAS, UM, YOU WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL 15%.

AND IF YOU ARE EITHER DISABLED OR IF YOU ARE OLDER THAN 65, THEN YOU ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER 10%.

SO IF YOU MET ALL THREE OF THOSE, YOU'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CITY FUNDING 90% OF THE REPAIRS TO YOUR SIDEWALK.

SO THE CURRENT RESPONSIBILITY FOR SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, AS I SAY, RESIDENTS INTERIOR TO SUBDIVISION ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL STREET, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIDEWALK OF BUTTING THEIR PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE COST SHARE PROGRAM.

APARTMENTS, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIDEWALKS OF BUTTING THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CITY'S COST SHARE PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR A 10% CITY COST SHARE WITH A MAXIMUM OF $25,000 EXPENDITURE FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIDEWALKS, AND THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE BY THE ORDINANCE FOR, UH, THE COST SHARE PROGRAM.

I KNOW THE SCHOOLS, THE PART OF THAT IS THE SCHOOLS HAVE THEIR OWN TAXING DISTRICT AND, AND THEY CAN FUND THOSE REPAIRS.

AND SO, THOUGH IT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO REPAIR SIDEWALKS ALONG RESIDE WHERE YOU, WHERE, WHERE RESIDENCES, BUT MAJOR STREETS.

UH, EXAMPLE IS WALNUT, WALNUT STREET ACROSS FROM KROGER.

THERE, RIGHT THERE BY NORTH CON.

YOU'VE GOT ALL THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON A MAJOR STREET, BUT IT'S CONSIDERED THAT THAT'S USED BY MORE THAN JUST THE RESIDENCE THAT'S USED BY THROUGH TRAFFIC.

SO THE CITY HAS DECIDED THAT

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THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN ALL THOSE SIDEWALKS WHERE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE BUTT ON THOSE MAJOR STREETS.

AND THEN WHERE YOU SIDE ON THE MAJOR, A LOT OF RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOODS SIDE ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET, YOU KNOW, SIDE ONTO ARTERIALS, THE CITY MAINTAINS THOSE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, LIKE I SAID, THE STREET DEPARTMENT TOOK OVER THE SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION PROGRAM ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2020.

BEFORE THAT HAD BEEN DONE BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THE, THE THINKING BEHIND THAT WAS, WE ARE A MAINTENANCE OPERATION.

IT'S MORE APPROPRIATELY SUITED IN A SITUATED IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE HAD 235 REQUESTS FOR REPAIRS AS OF COUPLE WEEKS, A WEEK OR SO AGO.

OF THOSE 94, 221 OR 94% MET SOME KIND OF REQUIREMENT FOR REPLACEMENT.

AND SO OUR, OUR REVENUE RECOVERY DEPARTMENT, WE WILL DEVELOP ESTIMATES, WE SEND IT TO OUR REVENUE RECOVERY.

THEY SEND OUT THE BILLS, BILLS, AND THEN TO DATE, AND THEN WE HAD 14% THAT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

THOSE, WE JUST NOTIFY THE RESIDENT, TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE, THANKS FOR THE APPLICATION, BUT , UH, ENJOY THE RIDE HOME, DRIVE HOME, PROVE TO DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

AND THEN 92, TO DATE, 92 RESIDENTS HAVE PAID TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS.

SO THE AVERAGE TOTAL COST OF THE SIDEWALK REPAIR IS $3,200.

AND SO THE, THE RESIDENTS PAYING EITHER 50% OR LESS OF THAT.

UM, ONE THING, IF TALKING TO REVENUE RECOVERY, THERE IS A PAYMENT OPTION PLAN, DEPENDING UPON HOW THE SIZE OF IT, WHERE YOU COULD PAY UP TO 60 MONTHS.

BUT WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD, TALKING TO REVENUE RECOVERY TODAY, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN PAYING FOR THOSE, PAYING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE IF YOU DO PARTICIPATE IN THE, IN THE PAYMENT PLAN, THE CITY HAS TO ATTACH A LIEN TO YOUR PROPERTY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HESITANT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HESITANT TO HAVE A LIEN ATTACHED TO THEIR PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH SOON AS YOU PAY IT OFF, IT'S GONNA GO AWAY.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DISTRUSTFUL OF HAVING OR JUST DON'T WANNA HAVE LIEN PLACED ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT, AT THE START OF THIS YEAR, THERE WERE STILL $265,000 LEFT FROM OUR 2014 BOND PROGRAM AND OUR 2019 BOND PROGRAM, $5 MILLION WAS APPROVED BY THE RESIDENTS FOR THIS PROGRAM.

SO OUR PROJECTION STREAM HERE, WE HAD ROLLOVER MONEY IN 2022, BUT IT AVERAGES OUT TO ROUGHLY, UH, $750,000 A YEAR THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

RIGHT NOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO THE, THE, UM, THE COST SHARE HAS ONLY BEEN ABOUT MAYBE 300,000.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO GET THAT MONEY SPENT WITH PARTICIPATION IN OTHER PROJECTS.

THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING, THAT WE'RE IN CURRENT DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT ADDING, ADDING, ADDING WAYS TO EXPEND THE FUNDS IN ADDITION TO THE REPAIR MONEY.

THERE'S ALSO, UH, THERE'S ALSO $4 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THAT, IN THAT BOND PROGRAM FOR NEW SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS BASICALLY FILLING IN THE BLANKS ON MAJOR STREETS WHERE SIDEWALKS DON'T EXIST AND DOING, UH, DOING ADA RAMP RELATED ADA RAMP REQUESTS AND ANY ADA RELATED ISSUES THAT ARE, IT'S FUNDED ON THAT.

SO THE ROUTES THAT THEY'RE WORKING FOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY CURRENTLY WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, GI, S D, AND PARKS TO JUST TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE MOST HEAVILY TRAVELED PEDESTRIAN ROUTES TO TRY TO WORK ON DECIDING WHICH LOCATIONS THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THOSE SIDEWALKS IN.

AND THEN HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE.

UM, THE, THE BIG, WHEN YOU GET THE BIG CRACKING LIKE THIS, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WOULD, WOULD QUALIFY FOR REPAIRS.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE ALL THE DEBRIS IS SETTLED.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WAY AREA WHERE IT'S DROPPED.

AND OBVIOUSLY AS WATER HAS STOOD THERE, THEN ALL THAT DEBRIS IS WASHED ONTO THE SIDEWALK.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU GET SIDEWALKS, IT'LL HEAT UP LIKE THIS WHEN YOU GET THAT KIND OF SEPARATION.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WILL, WILL QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM.

THIS ONE IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE AS TREE ROOTS, AS TREES ARE PLANTED IN THE PARKWAY, THEY'RE FINE WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED, BUT GUESS WHAT? TREES GROW OVER TIME AND THEY, THEY WILL TEND TO EITHER HEVE UP THE CURB OR HEVE UP THE SIDEWALK.

SO THAT'S MY ONE PET.

IF I COULD WAVE MY MAGIC WAND, I WOULD TAKE ALL THE TREES OUTTA THE PARKWAYS CUZ THEY JUST, THEY DO A LOT OF DAMAGE TO STREETS AND THEY DO A LOT OF DAMAGE TO SIDEWALKS.

AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STALLING, THAT'S WHERE IT IS, WHERE BASICALLY THE SURFACE COVER IS.

THEN IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO WHERE IT COULD POSE A TRIPPING HAZARD, THEN, THEN THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE WILL PAY TO, TO REPLACE.

AND THIS IS JUST SOME VARIOUS EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE PUT IN OF JUST PICTURES WHERE WE, THAT, THAT WE HAVE REP THAT ACTUALLY WE HAVE APPROVED SINCE WE STARTED.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT, ALTHOUGH THERE'S SOME SEPARATION, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT QUALIFY.

CAUSE IT'S JUST NOT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SEPARATION IN THOSE REQUESTS.

AND THEN BEFORE, ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE RAISE IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, URIEL HAD SENT ME A LIST

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OF QUESTIONS PRIOR, PRIOR TO THIS.

AND I'M, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST GO THROUGH THESE AND ANSWER THOSE TO SOMEONE'S ABOUT IT SAYS, UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS FROM BETTY SAYS, WHAT'S STREET WORK IS PLANNED FOR THE SATURN SPRINGS PROJECT.

THAT'S A DRAINAGE PROJECT THAT WILL EXTEND NORTH FROM, UH, THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WAS DONE THERE, KEN AND KIN AND OLD ORCHARD SOUTH OF THE PARK.

THE, WELL, THIS IS LIKE PARK PHASE TWO.

YEAH.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO INCLUDE, INCORPORATE OVER HILL ALL THE WAY UP THE REST OF THAT, REST OF THAT AREA.

UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S IN DESIGN.

THEY'RE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT IT, IT'LL END UP PUTTING SUBSERVICE STUFF AND IT'LL PUT, UH, STREETS.

AND AS THEY IMPROVE IT, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD SIDEWALKS ON THOSE STREETS WHERE, WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE THEY CAN PHYSICALLY CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS.

AND THE SECOND ONE WAS HOW CAN WINFORD TO SAN, HOW CAN WINFORD FROM SAN SATURN ROAD TO THE POST OFFICE BE IMPROVED? UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY PROPERTY, BUT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OWNED BY THE, THAT IS OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND I THINK THERE HAS BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO IMPROVE THAT, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I MEAN, I THINK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS KIND OF ON, ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN THEY SWITCHED, IT SWITCHED HANDS.

AND IT'S, IT'S, THAT ONE'S BEEN AN ONGOING BATTLE THAT, THAT THEY'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO TRY TO GET THAT THE, THE, THAT THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO IMPROVE THAT SECTION OF THE ROADWAY.

OKAY.

I WANNA GO BACK TO THE SATURN SPRINGS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I LIVE ON SATURN SPRINGS, .

OKAY.

I HAVE A, A REAL INTEREST IN THIS, UH, THE STREETS.

WE, WE DO NOT HAVE CURBS ON MOST OF THE STREETS AND NO SIDEWALKS.

MM-HMM.

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AND SO PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MUCH PROPERTY THEY'RE GONNA LOSE OFF OF THEIR, UH, YARDS.

UH, YOU KNOW HOW THE, HOW IT'S FIGURED AND WELL, IT, IT SHOULD, YOU SHOULD, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD NOT SURRENDER ANY OF YOUR PROPERTY.

NOW A LOT OF THAT IS STILL THE, WHERE THE, THE BAR DITCHES ARE.

THAT'S PART OF THE CITY RIGHT AWAY.

WELL, AND SO THE CITY RIGHT AWAY IS TYPICALLY ON A STREET LIKE THAT, MAYBE 60 FEET WIDE, EITHER 50 OR 60 FEET WIDE.

SO THERE'S TYPICALLY 15 TO 16 FEET OUTSIDE THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT THAT IS STILL CITY PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE UNDER, UNDER MOST NORMAL SITUATIONS, YOU'LL HAVE A CURB, YOU'LL HAVE SIX FOOT PARKWAY, YOU'LL HAVE A FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ONE FOOT OF PROPERTY BEHIND THE SIDEWALK BEFORE YOU GET THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IT, IT JUST DEPENDS.

AND, AND LIKE I SAY, I'M, I HAD TO ASK QUESTION ABOUT THAT CUZ THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING MANAGED BY A PROJECT MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

AND SO IF YOU HAD ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROJECT ITSELF, I IT WOULD BE BEST DIRECTED TO THEM.

WELL, WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH, WITH THOSE LAURA LAURA DUNN DONE.

YEAH.

LAURA, WELL WE ARE RINGING HER PHONE OFF THE WALL.

WELL, LAURA DUN IS OUT OF, I KNOW SHE'S ON VACATION THIS WEEK.

WELL, , SHE WON'T HAVE TO ENTER HER PHONE THIS WEEK THEN WE WELL, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN OLD OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS NOT, UM, DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF STREETS OR THE SAME KIND OF, AND SOME OF THE STREETS ARE VERY, VERY NARROW AND SOME OF THE YARDS ARE TOO.

WELL I KNOW, LIKE I SAY, I KNOW THE, THE CONCERN IS THAT WHEN THEY PA WHEN THEY PAVE SATURN SPRINGS YOU, THE THOUGHT IS YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE OUT.

YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREET.

CUZ SATURNS A CUT SATURN SPRINGS OBVIOUSLY IS A CUT THROUGH BETWEEN GLENBROOK AND SATURNS.

UH, BUT I MEAN, WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT, THAT THAT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND YEAH.

ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU DIRECT THEM TO LAURA? CAUSE I, WE'VE BEEN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO LAURA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I, I, BUT I TOLD 'EM I WOULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND THEN KEN SAID, HOW LONG SHOULD AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL STREET LAST THESE DAYS FOR IT NEEDS SERIOUS EXPECTED ROUTINE REPAIR? TYPICAL CONCRETE STREET, DEPENDING UPON THE, A LOT OF IT DEPENDS UPON, THE SOIL CONDITION SHOULD LAST ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 50 YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY PREMATURE FAILURE IS TYPICALLY DUE TO ONE OF THREE THINGS.

EITHER POOR SOIL, POOR SUB POOR SUBGRADE PREP AND OR BAD, YOU KNOW, POOR QC DURING CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THE TYPICAL PROCESS, LIKE NOW WHEN WE BUILD STREETS, WE WILL PUT SIX INCHES OF CRUSHED CONCRETE DOWN AND, AND SLURRY SEAL OR WHATEVER AND KIND OF CREATE A, A CAP THAT A LOT OF THE STREETS WE ALSO, THE, THE, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL DO WHAT THEY CALL LIME CEMENT STABILIZATION.

YOU'LL LIME STABILIZE IT, LET IT SIT FOR THREE DAYS AND COME BACK AND PUT THE, WHICH, WHICH HELPS TO EXPAND THE CLAY.

AND THEN THE CEMENT WILL HARDEN IT UP AND SUPPOSEDLY GIVE IT A GOOD SURFACE.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE SURFACE PREPARATION THEN WHERE IT'S DONE ON, YOU KNOW, STREETS NOW THAT WERE BUILT IN THE EIGHTIES OR WHATEVER.

NONE OF THAT WAS DONE.

AND IT, AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT REFLECTS AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE KINDA SITUATION WE'RE IN IN GARLAND

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WHILE WE'VE RUN INTO SO MUCH NEED FOR STUFF, IS THAT GARLAND WAS BUILT IN 60 SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES.

WELL THOSE STREETS ARE NOW 40, 50 AND 60 YEARS OLD AND IT'S LIKE THE, THE PERFECT STORM WHEN THEY'RE ALL, ALL KIND OF FALLING APART AT THE SAME TIME.

SO, UM, WHAT ABOUT SIDEWALKS? ONCE AGAIN, SIDEWALKS SHOULD, SHOULD LAST THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND LIKE I SAY, UNLESS THEY'RE AFFECTED BY TREE ROUTES OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS CLAY SOIL THAT WE GOT, PARTICULARLY DOWN IN YOUR PART OF THE TOWN, THE CLAY SOIL IS, IS EXTREMELY HIGHLY EXPANSIVE.

AND THAT, AS YOU KNOW, ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SAID, WELL, IF YOU HAD SET FOUNDATION WORK, WELL THE SAME THING THAT OPERATES ON YOUR FOUNDATION OPERATES ON THE STREETS.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO, IF YOU CAN DO A LOT OF SURFACE PREP AND, AND, AND BASE BASED TREATMENT THAT HAD HELPS IN THE LONG RUN.

AND LIKE I SAY, BECAUSE OF THE PREMATURE FAILURES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OVER TIME AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE JUST, WELL, NOT SEVERAL, MAYBE FOUR, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE REDID THE WHOLE DESIGN STANDARD, THE BASE, ALL THE, THE THICKNESS, THE AMOUNT OF REBAR WE PUT IN IT.

SO ALL THAT'S BEEN REVISED TO TRY TO HELP EXTEND THOSE DESIGN LIVES TO 50 YEARS.

THE SAME PREP THOUGH, GOES FOR SIDEWALKS AS IT DOES FOR STREETS, THOUGH WE DON'T, WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE THAT AS AS MUCH PREPARATION WE'RE DOING COMPACTING OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CARRYING THE KIND OF LOADS, THEY'RE NOT CARRYING THE KINDA LOADS THAT THE STREET DOES.

SO, AND THE SIDEWALK PAVEMENT IS ONLY FOUR INCHES THICK, IT'S, WHEREAS THE STREET PAVEMENT WILL BE SIX OR SEVEN INCHES THICK.

BUT THE, ARE THOSE SECTIONS MADE TO SHIFT, LIKE, LIKE THE, IF YOU LIVE IN A BIG HOUSE, IT'S GOT THE SEAM DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT SO THEY CAN, SO IT CAN SHIFT AND FLOAT.

ARE THE SECTIONS MADE TO SHIFT OR FLOAT? WELL, YOU'LL PUT, I MEAN THE, THE TYPICALLY EVERY ON ROADWAYS YOU'LL SEE, TYPICALLY EVERY 20 FOOT YOU'VE GOT SAW JOINTS.

AND THEN EVERY 200 FOOT YOU'VE GOT AN EXPANSION JOINT.

AND AN EXPANSION JOINT IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE ROAD TO, WE DON'T PUT NEARLY AS MANY, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH EXPANSION JOINTS IN, IN SIDEWALKS WHERE YOU GET EXPANSION JOINTS IS WHERE RIGHT.

AT TYPICALLY WHERE THEY TIE IN THE DRIVEWAYS A LOT OF TIMES.

BUT NORMALLY ALONG THE LENGTH OF YOUR PRO, ALONG A LENGTH OF AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, THERE TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE A, AN EXPANSION JOINT.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, OTHER THAN CONCRETE OR THE OTHER CONCRETE OR ASPHALT COMPOSITES FOR SIDEWALKS THAT WE COULD USE, WE HEAVING OR SINKING SEEMS TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE.

WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY USING ANYTHING UNDER THE CONCRETE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE, UM, CAN WE, CAN WE, COULD WE DO ASPHALT AS A, AS A LEVEL UP PROCEDURE WHERE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO THESE REPAIRS OR LET'S SAY THE PROBLEM'S THERE AND WE'RE GONNA REBUILD THE STREET IN TWO YEARS, WELL WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANNA PUT A NEW SIDEWALK IN AND TEAR IT OUT AND TEAR IT OUT IN TWO YEARS.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE LOOKED AT AND YOU SEE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE INDUSTRY, TRADE SHOWS ABOUT AROUND TREES THAT SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED A RUBBERIZED CEMENT, A RUBBERIZED SIDEWALK THAT WILL, WILL MOVE WITH THAT.

SO IT HELPS ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT.

BUT WE, WE CURRENTLY AREN'T USING THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF INVESTIGATED.

UH, NEXT QUESTIONS CAME FROM ROB.

IT SAYS, UH, NUMBER OF MILES OF SIDEWALKS THAT NEED REPAIRS DUE TO TRIPPING HAZARD.

THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS WE DON'T KNOW MM-HMM.

, BUT WE ARE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN INSPECTOR THAT INSPECTS OUR STREETS.

AND SO PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN THIS THING AND IS LOOKING AT, DO WE WANT TO INCORPORATE SIDEWALK INSPECTION WITH THAT? ONLY WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS WE KNOW THAT ON A STREET SEGMENT THERE'S A PIECE OF SIDEWALK MISSING.

WE DON'T KNOW THE LENGTH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS.

SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE DISCUSSION IS, AND THERE'S SOME CONCERN OF, YOU KNOW, AND WILL WE CREATE SIDEWALK RATINGS? PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE SIDEWALK RATINGS SIMILAR TO THE STREET RATINGS WE HAVE, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE US, IT TYPICALLY TAKES US, UM, OH 18 MONTHS TO SITE REVIEW ALL THE STREETS IN THE CITY.

WE FEEL LIKE IF WE ADD SIDEWALKS TO THAT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE 24 TO 30 MONTHS TO GET THE WHOLE STREET NETWORK DONE.

SO UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE CYCLE ONE TIME, WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT ISSUE.

SO IT'S, EVEN IF WE DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT IT TODAY, IT'D PROBABLY BE MORE, IT'D BE MORE IN TWO YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH SIDEWALK WE'RE MISSING AND HOW MUCH WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND YES.

YEAH, THAT, BUT THE NUMBER OF MILES THAT ARE MISSING SIDEWALKS, WE DON'T, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IN 2017 WE KIND OF DID AN ESTIMATE BASED ON A FEW EXAMPLES.

AND I THINK THE NUMBERS WE CAME UP WITH AT THAT TIME, AND OF COURSE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF SINCE INCREASE WAS IT WOULD BE BETWEEN MISSING AND AND REPAIR SIDEWALKS IN NEED OF REPAIR, IT'D BE OVER A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GOT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS LAYING AROUND .

SO I MEAN IT IS, THERE IS, IT'S A PROBLEM OF A SIGNIFICANT

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MAGNITUDE.

UH, LIKE I SAY, WE TIMELINE FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION, WE SAID IT TAKE AT LEAST 24 HOURS, 24 MONTHS TO KNOW THAT AND WHAT WE NEED, UH, WHAT MATERIALS OTHER THAN CONCRETE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED FOR SIDEWALKS.

LIKE I SAY, WE COVERED OUT HOW MUCH WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.

AND WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT COULD TAKE ON A DISABILITY CLAIM THAT THE CITY'S NOT A COMPLIANT? WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PRIMARY THING THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ADA TRA THE, THE, THE LAW REQUIRED YOU DEVELOP AN ADA TRANSITION TRANSITION PLAN.

THEY ORIGINALLY, WE ORIGINALLY DID ONE IN 1990, BUT IT'S WELL OUTTA DATE.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS NOW OF RE REDOING THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN.

PART OF PART OF THAT IS, AND WE'VE GOT A CONSULTANT DOING THAT FOR US, IS DEFINING, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, HOW MUCH, AND NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY SIDEWALKS, BUT CITY BUILDINGS, ANY CITY FACILITY, CITY PARKS, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY ACCESSIBLE? BUT PART OF THE KEY IS THAT IF YOU GET A PLAN IN PLACE, YOU'RE IN MUCH BETTER POSITION TO WITHSTAND THE CLAIM.

CAUSE YOU COULD SAY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, YEAH, WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

WE'RE SPENDING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO TRY TO DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, ULTIMATELY THE COURTS WOULD RULE WHAT'S REASONABLE AND WHAT'S NOT REASONABLE.

IT'S LIKE, LIKE ANYTHING ADA RELATED, THE COURTS WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE IF THAT'S A REASONABLE ONE.

BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE IN PLACE, I KNOW I THINK DENVER GOT HIT WITH HAVING TO SPEND $6 MILLION.

I MEAN, THEY GOT RUIN, THEY HAD TO SPEND $6 MILLION A YEAR JUST DOING ADA RAMPS THROUGH THE CITY UNTIL THEY GOT 'EM REDONE.

SO, AND PART OF OUR PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS WE O AS WE DO, AS WE OBVIOUSLY IMPROVE STREETS, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING THE SIDEWALKS, WE'RE FIXING THE ADA RAMPS.

BUT AS WE OVERLAY STREETS TOO, WE'RE GOING BACK AND HIT HITTING THOSE WHERE THERE ARE NON-COMPLIANT ADA RAMPS OR NON-EXISTENT ADA RAMPS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

UM, PATRICIA HAD QUESTIONS AS ASSIST, IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK BUCKLE UP IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW DO YOU GET IT REPLACED OR REPAIRED? IF IT'S IN YOUR PROPERTY AND SHE LISTED SPECIFIC STREETS, LIKE ACTUALLY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT YOURS, YOU CAN REPORT IT TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

YOU WOULD BE ASKED TO PROVIDE THE EXACT LOCATION OF THOSE LOOC OF THOSE STREETS AND YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC ADDRESSES OR WHATEVER.

THERE IS A WAY THAT IF IT, IF, IF WE GO OUT THERE AND DEEM IT AS A HAZARD, WE CAN SEND IN A LETTER TO THE RESIDENT SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY'S NON-COMPLIANT, SOMEONE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.

YOU, YOU NEED TO FIX IT.

AND IF THEY CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS HAPPENED AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO IT SINCE WE TOOK IT OVER, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS ONE TIME THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN ENGINEERING WAS DOING WHERE SOMEONE BASICALLY WENT THROUGH A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID THAT THING, DID THAT REPORTING.

SO WE, WE WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO GIVE US A SPECIFIC LOCATION AND, AND THOUGH ALL WHILE, ALTHOUGH WE WILL NOT TELL THE RESIDENT WHO REPORTED, IF THEY ASK UNDER OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REPORT, WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION UP.

WE'RE NOT VOLUNTARILY GIVE IT UP, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S REQUESTED OF US, WE, WE UNDER OPEN RECORDS A FOUR YOU RECORDS, WE HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO GIVE THAT UP.

UM, UM, YES, YOU SAID SAYS, I SEE THIS A LOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A LOW PRIORITY FOR HOMEOWNERS, OFTEN CASE.

AND YOU'LL FIND THAT TOO, IN, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT NOT OWNER OCCUPIED, YOU TEND TO SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE NOT, TEND NOT TO ADDRESS.

CAUSE IT'S NOT AS PRIORITY FOR THE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A LARGE COMPANY THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS A BUNCH OF HOUSES THAT, THAT THOSE, THAT'S WHAT WE TEND TO SEE IN SOME OF THOSE RENTAL AREAS.

UM, SHE SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT STANDING WATER ON ANGELITA.

I SAID I WOULD, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH IT.

I I, I DON'T, I GUESS SHE'S NOT HERE, SHE'S NOT HERE, SHE'S NOT HERE THAT SHE COULD GIVE ME A, IF SHE COULD GIMME A SPECIFIC ADDRESS, WE COULD OKAY.

TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND THEN SHE SAYS, WALNUT NEEDS A NEW SURFACE.

ANY IDEA WE'LL BE REPAIRED OR ON THE RADAR.

WELL, UM, OUR, RIGHT NOW THEN THE NEXT THREE ARTERIALS THAT WE HAVE REPAIR SET FOR ARE GLENBROOK AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON GLENBROOK FROM WALNUT TO BUCKINGHAM.

WE'RE FIXING THE START FROM BUCKINGHAM TO BELTLINE AND IN, AND WE HAVE IN JUPITER, JUPITER AND MILLER, JUPITER IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT THEY DID A LOT OF WORK ON.

SHILOH, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GO IN TWO OR THREE YEARS TO GO FURTHER NORTH ON SHILOH NORTH OF KINGSLEY.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK ON THAT SECTION AND JUER DO THE SLAB REPAIR IN, IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

SO, BUT THOSE, JUPITER AND MILLER, WE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR, UM, FUNDS FROM DALLAS COUNTY.

DALLAS COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN A LOT OF THESE REPAIRS WHERE THEY WILL PROVIDE 50% OF THE FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS.

SO WE HAVE REQUESTED COST SHARE PARTICIPATION ON THESE TWO PROJECTS.

HADN'T HEARD ANY, HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING BEFORE THAT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE ALSO, WE'VE HAD A, ONE OF MY ENGINEERS HAVE GONE THROUGH AND HE'S DONE A COST ESTIMATE ON ALL OF OUR ARTERIS.

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SO PART OF THE UPCOMING PROCESS WILL BE TRYING TO PROGRAM AND, AND DEVELOP THOSE AR TRY TO PRIORITIZE AND DEVELOP THOSE ARTERIAL REPAIRS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

SO, UM, BUT YEAH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT NO SHORTAGE OF NO SHORTAGE OF WORK AND, AND MANY OF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL DRIVE CENTERVILLE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, OKAY, WE DID A HUGE PROJECT ON CENTERVILLE IN 20 16 17, BUT WE'VE HAD TO COME BACK TWO SEPARATE TIMES SINCE THEN TO DO ADDITIONAL SLAB WORK BECAUSE IT JUST, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

AND REALISTICALLY, IF YOU GET CAUGHT UP ON YOUR ARTERIALS, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD GO BACK ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS ON YOUR ARTERIALS AND, AND, AND FIX SLAB, FIX SLABS AND DO ENOUGH TO KEEP 'EM IN SHAPE SO THAT THEY DON'T FAIL WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO A COMPLETE REBUILD.

UM, AND THEN BOB SAYS WHY HE HAD A QUESTION, HE HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, WHY DOES THE TRAIN STATION NOT HAVE PART PAVED SIDEWALKS GOING EAST TO WALNUT? GOOD QUESTION.

UH, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE PART OF THAT WAS WHEN THAT WAS BUILT, THERE WAS NO DESIGNATED OWNER AND IT CROSSES THE DART AND THE CASEYS RIGHT AWAY.

BUT THAT STREET IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MONEY THAT THAT THAT WE HAVE FUNDING.

IF YOU DRINK THAT STREET, IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOT A COW PATH WORN DOWN THERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE STREETS THERE RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY HAVE 12, I THINK YOU SAID 12 TO 13 STREETS WHERE THEY HAVE STREET SEGMENTS LIKE THIS DESIGNED FOR THAT THEY'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR.

I GOT A CONSULTANT DOING THE DESIGN WORK ON THESE PROJECTS.

INTERESTING THAT ONE ON WALNUT IT'LL BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHERE YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE TRAIN TRACKS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXTEND THE, THE TRAIN PANEL AND, AND YOU'VE GOTTA DO THOSE RAIL CROSSING.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THERE BECAUSE OF HAVING TO CROSS THAT RAILROAD.

AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT THE, THE RAILROADS ARE NOT THE EASIEST PEOPLE TO, TO WORK WITH.

I JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE IF IT'S NOT A PRIORITY FOR THEM AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING AND WE'VE FOUND IF IT DOESN'T CAUSE THEM PROBLEM WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR RAIL TRANSIT, IT'S NOT REALLY A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THEM.

BUT WE'VE HAD SOME LUCK.

WE'VE, I MEAN IF YOU'VE LATELY SEEN THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE ON BUCKINGHAM, THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE ON FOR SLAIN, WE HAVE DONE AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TO TRY ABOUT HAVING THREE OR FOUR MORE OF THOSE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.

SO WE'RE GO, WE'RE SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND ARE PROJECTING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT MORE ON IMPROVING THESE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.

UM, BUT ACTUALLY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S MANAGERSHIP, BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY, THE TECH DOT HAS SOME FUNDING PROGRAM, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR SOME FUNDING.

THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN, THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE BID IN 2023.

BUT IF THAT, IF THEY HAVE TO DO THE TECH DOT FUNDING WHILE THEY, IT MAY DELAY THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY ALLOW THE MONEY TO GO A LOT FURTHER IF YOU CAN GET MATCHING MONEY, IF YOU CAN GET MATCHING MONEY FROM TECH.TO DO THIS SIDEWALK WORK.

AND THEN WHY ARE THERE BUS STOPS WITHOUT PAVEMENT? WELL, DART IS THE ONE THAT BASICALLY COMES IN AND PUTS THEIR SIGN, PUTS THEIR CREATES AND DETERMINES WHERE THE BUS STOPS ARE AND THEY BASICALLY JUST GO OUT THERE AND PUT SIGNS.

I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN RIDERSHIP LEVELS AT STOPS THAT WARRANTS WHERE THEY PUT BENCHES OR WHERE THEY PUT A PAD OR WHERE THEY PUT A SHELTER.

AND I GUESS THE HIGHER THE RIDERSHIP, THE MORE THE MORE AMENITIES YOU GET.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THAT'S WITH DART.

ALTHOUGH WE HAVE BEEN COOPERATING WITH, WITH UM, DART, I KNOW THAT WE JUST STILL SIDEWALK PRO PRO PROJECT TO GO FROM THE FOREST LANE STATION OVER TO HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

AND SO I THINK WE PARTNERED WITH THEM TO MAKE CONNECTIONS TO THEIR STOPS ALL ALONG THAT ROUTE.

AND CERTAINLY IF, IF WE'RE PUTTING A SIDEWALK IN THERE'S BUS STOPS THERE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THERE.

BUT REALLY DART KIND OF DRIVES A LOT OF THAT STUFF.

AND YOU KNOW, I READ SOMEWHERE THAT I GUESS THERE WAS THE DART MAY BE LOOKING AT SHARING SOME FUNDING WITH THE CITY.

SO PERHAPS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY BE SOME, SOMEWHERE NOBODY'S REALLY GAVE ANY DETAILS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN AREA WHERE THAT, THAT FUNDING COULD BE ALLOCATED.

BUT THAT'S ALL THE GIVEN QUESTIONS I GOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANYONE MAY HAVE YOU, KEN.

SO WHAT IS THE LIMIT OR WHAT IS THE, THE RULE FOR PATCHING? LIKE IF THERE'S A PATCH THREE, FOUR INCHES DEEP IN THE STREET, WHAT'S THE, THE GENERAL RULE THAT Y'ALL COME OUT AND PATCH THAT? HOW DEEP DOES IT HAVE TO BE? WELL, IF WE GET A, IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, I MEAN IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF IT'S JUST CRACKED WHERE THERE'S NOT AND THERE'S NOT A MINIMAL DEPRESSION THERE THAT THERE'S NO RIDEABILITY ISSUE, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA DO IT.

MAYBE LOOK AT IT.

BUT WE CAN, WE'LL PATCH STUFF WHERE THERE'S AS MUCH OF AN OFFSET OF JUST OF AN INCH.

SO, SO IF IT'S A, IF THERE'S A THREE INCH HOLE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, CALL CALL FIGURE OUT, EITHER REPORT IT VER EITHER REPORT IT VIA E ASSIST CALL THE, THERE'S THE E THE CITY EMAIL IS STREET GARLAND TX.GOV OR OUR MAIN NUMBER IS (972) 205-3555.

YOU CAN CALL EITHER ONE OF THOSE THREE WAYS, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS WILL GO OUT THERE AND INVESTIGATE AND MAKE THE APPROPRIATE REPAIR.

AND HOW

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LONG GENERALLY DOES THAT PROCESS TAKE? UH, DEPENDING ON THE WORKLOAD, BUT WE TRY TO GET TO EVERYTHING WITHIN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS.

WE TRY TO, WE GENERALLY TRY TO WORK AREAS OF TOWN AND WE TRY TO GO IN THE DAY FOLLOWING THE, THE TRASH TRUCKS SO THAT IF IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE IN AN AREA ON, ON TUESDAY, WE WOULD TRY TO GO IN THERE ON WEDNESDAY.

THAT WAY THAT THE POTHOLES HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN ALLEYS.

POTHOLES HAVE THE, THE, THE PATCH HAS SEVERAL DAYS TO, TO KIND OF SET UP BEFORE THE HEAVY TRUCKS HIT AGAIN.

DO THEY COME OUT ON SATURDAYS? CUZ OUR TRASH DAY'S ON FRIDAY, NO, BUT THEN THEY WOULD PROBABLY DO IT ON, PROBABLY DO IT ON MONDAY, BUT YEAH, MONDAY.

YEAH, WE, WE, WE GENERALLY, OUR CREWS DO, WE DON'T WORK, THE ONLY THING THEY GENERALLY DO ON THE WEEKENDS IS THEY DO A LOT OF THIS ALLEY UN PAVED ALLEY LAING ON THE WEEKENDS.

BUT OUR CONSTRUCTION GUYS TEND TO WORK THERE.

BUT YEAH, OUR MAINTENANCE CREWS, UNLESS IT'S, UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY WHERE WE GET CALLED IN, THEN WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT NORMALLY WORKING ON SATURDAY.

COOL.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THAT'S IT.

OH, AND IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER PERSONAL QUESTION.

UH, THERE IS, I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF SATURN SPRINGS IN GLENBROOK AND I LIVE, THE SATURN SPRINGS GOES BEHIND MY HOUSE AND THERE'S A BRIDGE RIGHT THERE AND THE STREET IS SINKING THERE AT THE BRIDGE OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, IT NEEDS HELP ALL THE TIME.

AND SO NOW WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE OVER IT, IT, IT REALLY MAKES A TREMENDOUS NOISE ON THAT AND THE CURB IS BREAKING DOWN AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE ASKED OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT, IT'S NOT MY CURB, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET CURB, BUT IT'S, WELL THE CURBS ARE, THE CURB REPAIRS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED BY THE CITY.

WELL THE, THEY'RE NOT DOING IT , I MEAN, KNOW IT TAKES, BUT UH, I GUESS THE FIRST PART IS WE HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND THEY COME OUT AND, AND POUR ASPHALT MAYBE IN THE LITTLE, WELL, I MEAN THE, THE FIRST REPAIR IF, I MEAN THE FIRST REPAIR ANYTIME WE GET A COMPLAINT IS GO LOOK AT IF THERE'S A RIDEABILITY ISSUE OR THERE'S A POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE.

THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS MAKE AN ASPHALT REPAIR TO LEVEL IT UP.

AND THEN WE OBVIOUSLY TRY TO OVER TIME GO BACK AND REPLACE THOSE ASPHALT PATCHES WITH, WITH CONCRETE.

BUT I MEAN, IF THE, WHEN WE DID THE NEEDS, I WANNA SAY THREE OR A COUPLE, THREE YEARS AGO, I MEAN IT'S, WE HAD AS MUCH AS $400 MILLION WORTH OF NEEDS.

SO WE AT $30 MILLION A YEAR, OUR BUDGET, WHICH IS A GOOD BUDGET.

IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET TO EVERYTHING.

BUT I'LL, I'LL CERTAINLY, I CAN HAVE OUR GUYS GO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S, LIKE I SAY IF IT'S PARTICULARLY IF IT'S, IF IT'S THE BRIDGE AND IT'S SELLING RELATIVE TO THE BRIDGE APPROACH, THAT'S A MORE, THAT'S A MORE COMPLICATED REPAIR.

BUT I WILL, I WILL HAVE OUR, I'LL HAVE OUR GUYS LOOK AT CLEAN SOUTHERN SPRINGS AND BRIARWOOD, BUT THERE WHERE THAT BRIDGE IS JUST ON JUST SOUTH OF BRIARWOOD.

MM-HMM.

RIGHT, OKAY.

RIGHT AT MY DRIVEWAY.

OKAY.

I WILL, I'LL HAVE SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, LAST CALL.

ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, NO, THANK YOU STEVE THEN.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME LAST CALL.

BETTER HEAD OUT THEN.

THANK YOU.

LIKE I SAID, IF YOU DO, IF LIKE I SAY, AS I TOLD KEN, IF YOU'VE, ANYTIME YOU'VE GOT AN ISSUE JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE WAYS YOU CAN USE THE E ASSIST APP.

YOU CAN LIKE THE STREET@GARLANDTX.GOV OR OUR NUM OUR MAIN NUMBER IS 2 0 5 3 5 5 5.

SO, OR YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I'LL GET IT TO STEVE AS WELL.

YEAH, I GOT STEVE'S NUMBER ANYWAYS.

, I MEAN, I CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE GOT ANY BUSINESS CARDS IN THIS THING OR I SAW ONE.

I CAN SEND OUT YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE SEE.

WELL I CAN, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A STACK OF BUSINESS CARDS RIGHT HERE, EXCEPT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY.

I GOT ONE, MAN.

I KEEP YOURS ON FILE.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANKS STEVE.

THANKS STEVE.

UH, NEXT UP KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL.

WELL, I WANT TO REPORT THAT WE DID THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP AND THIS GROUP WAS WELL REPRESENTED.

THERE WERE FOUR OF US THERE.

UH, ROBERT WAS OUT PICKING UP TRASH AND SO WAS EURO AND HIS SON, UH, KENNETH CAME AND HELPED PUT UP STUFF, PUT IT AWAY, PACK UP AND PUT STUFF AWAY.

AND I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE KITCHEN.

SO I GOT TO SUPERVISE THE COOKING OF HOT DOGS FOR, AND I, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE.

UM,

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IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD CROWD.

AND WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE, WE HAD, WE HAD DONE, UH, LIKE WE CALL 'EM GOODY BAGS OR SWAG BAGS OR, UH, AND THEN WE HAD, UH, DONE BUNDLES FOR PEOPLE FOR CLEANUP FOR UH, 275.

AND ALL OF THOSE WERE NOT USED.

UH, THERE WERE 24 SITES ALONG, UM, LAKE RAY HUBBARD AND ALONG THE CREEKS AND ALONG DIFFERENT AREAS IN GARLAND.

UH, SOME OF THEM HAD 28 PEOPLE AT THAT SITE WORKING AND SOME HAD TWO.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KNOW, UH, WHAT, UH, THE EXACT COUNT.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD A, A, UM, RECAP TO KNOW, UH, A REPORT.

SO THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT IT.

BUT IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL, WE THINK, UH, IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL.

AND THIS IS A COOPER, A COOPERATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN ROULETTE AND THE LAKE AREA OF DALLAS.

THE WATER, THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE LAKE AREA AND UH, THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN DALLAS.

WE ALL, YOU KNOW, WORK TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS THREE CITIES AND IT'S QUITE A, UM, UH, IT'S AN EFFORT.

I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

.

AND I THANK YOU ALL OF YOU WHO WERE THERE.

AND KENNETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT IT SINCE YOU HELPED PUT STUFF AWAY? NO, MA'AM.

BUT THE MORE, THE MERRIER.

YEAH, IT IS BECAUSE MATT FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT BROUGHT THE TENTS AND THE TABLES AND THE CHAIRS AND KENNETH HELPED ME PUT THOSE UP.

I HELPED PUT UP THE TENTS AND YOU PUT 'EM AWAY.

BUT, UH, THE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WORKED WITH US, THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, STORM WATER, UM, WAS VERY ACTIVE IN THIS.

AND UH, THEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN RT THAT TAKE PART IN THIS, THEY WERE VERY, VERY GOOD, UH, AND VERY HELPFUL.

AND ROBERT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT IT? HOW MANY BAGS DID YOUR GROUP PICK UP? UH, NOT FOR SURE BECAUSE WE HAD A PARKS GUY THAT WAS, THAT KEPT PICKING HIM UP.

OH YEAH.

BROUGHT HIM UP.

.

THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

SO I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I SAID, WELL, I ASKED HIM TO WAIT, BUT HE WAS, HE WAS A, HE WAS DOING HIS JOB.

HE WAS, HE WAS THE, THE ONLY, THE ONLY GRIPE I HAD ABOUT THAT IS THAT I DIDN'T GET ANY, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE SUPPLIES.

SO I MEAN, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, LIKE LAST YEAR YOU HAD BROUGHT 'EM TO ME, UHHUH, SO I, I HAD EMAILED YOU AND I THOUGHT, WELL, LET ME WAIT.

SO I, THAT MORNING AT THE EIGHT O'CLOCK, HIM AND HARBOR FREIGHT BUYING PICKERS AND GLOVES AND TRASH BAGS.

WELL, WELL THE PARTS GUY SHOWED UP AT NINE 15 AND HE HAD 'EM, HE HAD 'EM.

BUT MY FOLKS ARE ALREADY GONE.

THEY'RE OUT.

SO THEY WERE WAITING ON ME WHEN I GOT THERE.

WAS FOR COMMUNICATION WASN'T SO YEAH, I PROBABLY NEED TO WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, WELL WE TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE THAT, BUT THAT WAS REALLY NICE OF YOU TO DO THAT.

UM, SO I'M WRITING THAT DOWN.

WELL, I WANNA FIND MYSELF IN A BAG.

DID YOU, UH, DID YOU OWN, NOW YOU OWN YOUR OWN PICKERS? I LEFT THEM IN SPRING CREEK.

OH, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THEY DID A LOT OF THEIR WORK.

EARL DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? NO, IT WAS GOOD.

GOOD TURN OUT.

UM, I SPOKE WITH MATT AND THE PLANS NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT ONCE YOU GET OUT THERE, YOU SEE ALL THESE POSSIBILITIES.

YEAH.

WHEN I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON UNTIL YOU GET OUT THERE AND START TRYING TO HAVE SUPPLIES AND DON'T HAVE ANY AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT IT'S, THIS WAS OUR SEVENTH YEAR TO DO THIS, SO THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT AN, AND EVERY YEAR WE THINK WE GET BETTER, BUT SOME MAYBE NOT.

UM, BUT WE THINK WE DO.

AND ON ALL FAIRNESS, THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR SINCE COVID.

SO SINCE COVID IT WAS THE FIRST GENERAL MEETING.

YEAH.

SINCE COVID.

NOW WE DID THE, THE CLEANUP THE PAST TWO YEARS.

MM-HMM.

AND WE HAD REALLY GOOD PARTICIPATION EVEN WITH COVID.

UH, BUT THIS YEAR WE GOT TO GET BACK AND HAVE OUR HOT DOGS AND MEETING IN GENERAL AT THE, UM, SHRINER'S, UH, EVENT CENTER.

SO, UH, WE WEREN'T SURE HOW MANY, HOW, HOW IT WOULD TURN OUT, BUT IT WAS VERY GOOD.

I VOTE NEXT YEAR WE MAKE A MORE CONSCIENTIOUS EFFORT TO START RECYCLING STUFF.

LOOK IT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.

.

THE PROBLEM IS, AND UH, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY

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I CAME OUT THIS TIME.

CAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE.

MM-HMM.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THE RECYCLING, THE RECYCLABLES THAT WE PICKED UP, THEY WERE, THEY WERE TRASH.

RIGHT.

BASICALLY CONTAMINATED.

SO THEY WERE HEAVILY CONTAMINATED.

SO EVEN IF IT WERE TO SEND OUT TO THE PROCESSING FACILITY, THEY WOULDN'T PROCESS THEM.

THEY WOULD GO DIRECTLY THROUGH THE TRASH.

WELL, WE COULD DO, WE COULD MAKE A DENT AND AT LEAST THE PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES.

THE PLASTIC, YEAH.

BUT IF THEY'RE PULLED OUT OF THE CREEK AND OUT OF THE MUD, WELL JUST, JUST UNDER THE, THE PAVILION STUFF WHERE THE WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

CANS AND THROW AND WE'RE JUST THROWING THAT STUFF IN THE TRASH.

BUT, BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS NEXT YEAR MATT AND I WILL PUT MORE, MORE RESOURCES INTO THIS.

BETTY WILL STILL BE IN CHARGE, BUT, UH, WE'LL GIVE YOU GUYS MORE RESOURCES.

EXACTLY.

EXCELLENT.

UH, WE'LL HELP WITH THE ADVERTISING AND, AND ALSO, LIKE I SAID, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND, AND WE HAD FAMILIES.

WE HAD, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE WORK.

WE HAD, UH, SCOUT TROOPS, WE HAD, UM, ORGANIZATIONS, UH, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, UH, AND THE, THE FAMILIES, WE REALLY LIKE HAVING THEM WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR LITTLE KIDS.

AND, AND WE GAVE, UH, OUT TO FRISBEES AND THEY WERE THROWING THEM EVERYWHERE.

UH, AND IT'S, AND THE LITTLE SCOUTS, THE LITTLE LITTLE SCOUTS, THEY ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT GETTING OUT THERE AND HELPING.

SO ANY, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND IT'LL BE THE FIRST SATURDAY IN OCTOBER, WHATEVER THAT IS.

AND SO, SO YOU CAN START MAKING PLANS, .

IT'S NOT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE UP PLANS TO BE THERE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD, A GOOD EVENT AND THANK YOU JOB PEOPLE WHO DID IT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, RECOGNITION FOR OF FOOTBALL.

YES.

FOR, UH, NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RECOGNITION OF UM, DAVID PARRISH.

HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW DAVID? ANYBODY BESIDES ROBERT AND ME? WELL, DAVID HAD FOR, UH, THREE YEARS WAS HEAD OF THE PARKS BOARD.

LIKE WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE ON, HE WAS ON THAT.

AND HE WORKS WITH THE, UH, A SPRING CREEK GROUP AND HE IS, UH, PRESIDENT OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND HE DOES ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

AND I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN THE SCHOOLS WHERE WE DO THE LEARNING CENTERS.

AND HE'S ACCOMPLISHED QUITE A BIT.

HE WORKED FOR FOR 36 YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS I THINK IT WAS, HE WORKED FOR THE EPA AND I ASK HIM IF WORKING FOR THE EPA HELPED HIM IN ANY WAY IN WHAT HE'S DOING NOW.

AND HE SAID NOT A BIT.

SO HE DID A DIFFERENT KIND OF WORK FOR THE EPA APPARENTLY, BUT IT'LL BE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT AT THE, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING THEY HAVE, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN, THEY'LL HAVE A, UM, UM, OPENING AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE PLEDGE AND THE PRAYER AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN THEY DO THE RECOGNITION.

SO USUALLY HERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 MINUTES, NOT, NOT REAL LONG.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OKAY.

RECOGNITION.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, CAN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UM, NOTHING ON FROM ON V BUT I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW YOU CAN PASS THESE AROUND.

UM, WE ARE HAVING A BIG COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UH, HALLOWEEN, UH, ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, UH, WHERE I LIVE AT A T T INTERSECTION.

AND SO WE'RE BLOCKING OFF THE STREETS ON THE CORNERS, BLOCKING OFF TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE 200 KIDS COME THIS YEAR.

UH, WE'VE HAD AS MANY AS 168 FOR A CRAZED CLOWN POSSE EVENING.

THAT WAS PRETTY FUN.

BUT THIS YEAR'S GONNA BE A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE AND IT'S THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD PITCHING IN.

THEY'RE GONNA PUT BOOTHS ON THE CORNER.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE INOCULATIONS FOR THE KIDS AND INEBRIATION FOR THE ADULTS AND ALL SORTS OF FUN AND GAMES AND UM, UH, GUARANTEED TO GET YOU SCARED ON .

SO IT'S A, IT'S A BIG AMOUNT.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS AND THE LEAST NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE'VE EVER HAD WAS THE LAST TWO YEARS CUZ OF COVID.

BUT WE HAD 68 KIDS LAST YEAR AND I HAVE TO KEEP UP CAUSE I HAVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH CANDY TO BUY AND STUFF.

SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

YOU GUYS WERE ALL INVITED? UH, YU MAY SHOW UP.

UH, THE MAYOR SHOWED UP LAST YEAR, HUNG OUT FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF WITH US JUST MEETING AND GREETING.

UH, THERE WILL BE A COUPLE, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF COUNCIL PEOPLE THERE.

UH, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY WILL BE THERE.

UM, PAULA PROB EITHER PAULA OR ERICA WILL PROBABLY BE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED.

OSWALDO IS, IN FACT, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE TO TAKE AND INVITE HIM AND MICHELLE, MICHELLE PROBABLY SHOW UP.

IN FACT, I THINK FOR SURE SHE WILL PROBABLY BE THERE.

UM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS A LOT OF FUN AND ALL OF OUR BOARD PEOPLE

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AND SEVERAL DIFFERENT HOMES THAT HAVE TRIED TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S GOT 300 HOMES IN IT, NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO ALL THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF THEY KNOW YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE ON AT THIS PLACE.

THEY JUST SHOW UP AND IT'S A RESIDUAL.

SOME OF THESE KIDS HAVE BEEN COMING SINCE THEY WERE TWO AND THREE YEARS OLD.

NOW THEY'RE GROWNUPS.

SO IT'S KIND OF FUN.

WE DO A DIFFERENT THEME EVERY YEAR, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29TH FROM 6:00 PM TILL, TILL THE ZOMBIE'S LEGS FALL OFF.

WERE YOU GUYS ADVERTISING ON SOCIAL MEDIA? YEAH.

WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO ON NEXT DOOR? WE'VE GOT IT ON OUR, UH, SHORES OF WELLINGTON FACEBOOK SITE.

UM, YOU GOT A BETTER SUGGESTION.

YOU GOT NO, I MEAN I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE GARLAND PAGE.

GARLAND.

NOT THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE JUST FOR, IT'S JUST RANDOM.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT WEBSITE? CITY OF GARLAND.

AND HOW DO YOU GET SOMETHING ON THERE? JUST POP IT ON THERE.

UH, I CAN GET WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING AND I I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU JUST SEND THE REQUEST, THEY'LL LET YOU IN.

AND IT HAS ABOUT 15,000, UM, PARTICIPANT, I DUNNO IF WE WANT THAT.

NO, NO, BUT I MEAN IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, AND IT'S OLD GARLAND, SO YEAH.

IT'S SO IS IT GOOD AS AS GOOD AS NEXT DOOR? WELL, IT'LL GET TO THE ENTIRE CITY INSTEAD OF NEXT DOOR IS VERY, VERY LOCALIZED.

YEAH.

AND LOCALIZED.

EXACTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT THE ENTIRE CITY COMING UP CAUSE CUZ THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH.

I MEAN, WE'RE BLOCKING OFF THE STREET.

OKAY.

AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY PACKED AS IT IS.

THE YEAR WE HAD ALMOST 200 PEOPLE.

I HAD 60 PEOPLE LINE UP OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AT ONE TIME AND IT'S YEAH, YOU PROBABLY THE ONE THAT ADVERTISED THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH.

UH, WHEN WE'RE ALL WAITING, YOU'RE LIKE, COME ON MAN, I GOTTA SCARE YOU FIRST .

SO Y'ALL COME ABOUT, NOT YOURS, BUT I WANNA MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT COMMUNITY STUFF.

UH, ON THE 22ND AT 10 O'CLOCK THEY'RE DOING THE RIBBON CUTTING AT THE SKATE PARK, OR AS THEY CALL IT THE BONEYARD.

UH, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME KIND OF BIG EVENT.

IT'S AT RICK OEN PARK IF ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

NOW OFFICIALLY IT OPENS ON SATURDAY, BUT FOR THE PAST MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN DRIVING, GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE SKATEBOARD STUFF CUZ THEY'RE OUT THERE ON 'EM ALREADY.

BUT THAT'S THE OFFICIAL TIME.

UH, SATURDAY THE 22ND AT, UH, 10 O'CLOCK.

UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE A SKATEBOARDER, YOU'LL PROBABLY WANT TO BE THERE.

UH, THE OTHER ONE IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS HAVING A BLOCK PARTY ON THE 22ND AND WE GOT THE LITTLE, UH, WE CALL IT THE PARTY, THE PARTY, UH, TRAILER FROM, UH, ON V AND IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE TO BE A PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO GET THE PARTY TRAILER.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, ORGANIZATION, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM AND SCHEDULE THAT TRAILER.

AND IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE, IT'S GOT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR A, AN EVENT.

GAMES, GAMES.

IT HAS GAMES, TABLES, CHAIRS, CHITS, EVERYTHING, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

AND, UH, IF YOU, UH, SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU NEED TO GO LOOK AT IT.

MM-HMM.

, UH, DO SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU CAN, SO YOU CAN SCHEDULE IT.

UH, IT'S WEIRD.

CONTACT THEM, HOW WE CONTACT THEM.

UH, OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.

I CAN SEND YOU THEIR, THEIR INFORMATION.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

UH, YOU CAN, OR YOU CAN JUST GO ON CITY OF GARLAND WEBSITE AND FIND IT.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, AND THE PERSON TO TALK TO IS LAURA.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND SHE'LL, UH, ACTUALLY THEY HAVE NEW PERSON THERE, HER NAMED CATHERINE.

AND, UH, BUT LAURA'S THE ONE WHO'LL, UH, WORK WITH YOU.

OH, OKAY.

ON THAT.

YEAH.

NO, I DON'T WORK.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY.

AND I'M GONNA SAY AGAIN, DON'T FORGET THE SUMMIT MEETING ON D 12TH OF NOVEMBER.

REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT.

ARE Y'ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SUMMIT MEETING THAT'S GOING TO BE IN PLANO ON THE NOVEMBER THE 12TH AND THERE WILL BE A, A PRE SUMMIT MEETING IN GARLAND ON THE 10TH? LET ME PUT THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE JUST NOT THIRST ABOUT IT.

LAURA, THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, UH, HAS SOMETHING CALLED NEIGHBORHOOD CHATTER.

HERE'S THE, UH, THE CONTACT INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT RIGHT HERE.

GARLAND NEIGHBORHOODS.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT'LL WORK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S TIME.

I GUESS IT'S TIME FOR OUR ANNUAL

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ELECTION OF OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

UH, THEY PREFERENCE ON WHICH, WHICH ORDER WE TAKE THESE IN.

DON'T EVERYONE VOLUNTEER AT ONCE EITHER.

SO WE'LL START WITH THE CHAIR FIRST.

START WITH CHAIR.

YEAH, WE CAN START WITH CHAIR.

UH, DID HE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION.

YEAH, IT'S, UH, I, I KNOW BOB'S INTERESTED IN RE RE RE-UPPING FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

SO I'LL, I CAN NOMINATE BOB.

ONE SECOND.

OKAY, SO WE GOT THAT.

WE GOT ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE IN THE SUN.

SO, UM, WELL I WAS GONNA NOMINATE JIM, SO YOU COULD SIT THERE MORE OFF MORE THAN YOUR REGULARLY DO.

I'LL NOMINATE JIM FOR VICE CHAIR.

HE DOES A GOOD JOB SUBBING IN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO DO YOU WANT, DID YOU THINK ABOUT IT, DAPHNE OR NOT ? I'M GOOD NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

WELL I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN A SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT ANY OTHER NOMINAT NOMINEES FOR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OF THE ON DUTY IS GOOD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THAT.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT THING, UH, COMMUNITY INITIATIVES.

I HAVE NOTHING THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS.

DO YOU I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCE, BUT I WON'T BE HERE NEXT MONTH.

SO, UH, DOUG WOULD GO EAT TO THE, THE SUMMIT, BUT WE WON'T BE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO SPAIN, SO FINE.

ANYWAY.

AND, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? YES, I HAVE ONE.

OKAY.

HOW MANY THRIFT STORES ARE IN GARLAND AND WHO, WHO DETERMINES WHERE THRIFT STORES CAN GO IN AND ALL THAT? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? NO, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.

I'D PROBABLY BE ZONING, WOULDN'T IT? OH, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S, IT IS GONNA BE BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

IT MAY BE, BUT THAT, THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT, UM, BOB WANTED ME TO ASK ABOUT, UM, MECHANIC SHOPS.

YEAH, IT DOES GO IN WITH THAT, DOESN'T IT? IN SOME PARTS OF TOWN THERE ARE NO THRIFT SHOPS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FIND WHEEL.

BUT IN SOUTH GARLAND AND IN WALNUT PART, UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM AND I JUST WONDERED HOW THEY ARE, HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, I'M NOT GONNA PUT IN ONE IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW I'M NOT DOING THIS.

I SUSPECT IT'S WHERE THE RENT'S CHEAPEST OR, AND, BUT NOW WHO DOES, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THEY DECIDE? IS THIS A LIKE A DEPARTMENT STORE OR HOW, OR HOW, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE, THE THINGS ABOUT THRIFT STORES? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN ONE? I'VE BEEN IN LOTS OF THRIFT STORES.

I, I LOVE SHOPPING IN THRIFT STORES.

YOU CAN FIND, I HAVE A FRIEND WHO FOUND A FULL SILVER T SET THAT WAS WORTH A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS.

GOT IT.

FOR 25 BUCKS.

WELL, I KNOW CAUSE IT WAS JUST SO TARNISHED THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY HAD.

I FOUND 1940 COKE BOTTLE IN THERE.

GOT IT.

FOR $2.

BETTY, IF YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL JUST WITH THE SPECIFICS THAT, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT YEAH, I CAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE CLUSTERED IN CERTAIN PARTS TOO.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

I CAN SEE IF, UH, MAYBE NEXT MONTH WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND TODAY COULD YOU ADD, I'D KIND OF BE CURIOUS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE KEEP UP WITH THAT IN THE CITY, UH, IF THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NO GROCERY STORES MM-HMM.

TYPICALLY THEY'LL CALL 'EM FOOD ISLANDS, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR AREAS WHERE THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO GROCERY STORES WHERE NO STORES THAT SELL PRODUCE.

I, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THAT'S LAID OUT IN THE CITY.

I CAN ASK AND, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT.

THERE'S BEEN SOME NEWS STORIES RECENTLY ABOUT CITY OF DALLAS.

OF DALLAS, BUT WE DON'T ABOUT GOT LIKE GAR, RIGHT? FOOD DESERTS.

YEAH.

FOOD DESERTS.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

UH, WE'RE NEXT UP TO, UH, CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.

WE'VE GOT, UH, NATASHA GEKOSKI IF YOU WANT, WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN UP FRONT.

YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES.

AND WHAT, WE CAN LISTEN TO YOU, BUT WE CAN'T RESPOND.

OKAY.

I WAS DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON HOW TO LOWER THE TEMPERATURE ON THE OUTSIDE AIR IN