Nov 14, 2022 Work Session

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OH GOD. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 14TH 2022 WORK SESSION FOR THE GROWING CITY COUNCIL. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING ITEM. ONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP THIS EVENING. NO I'M SAYING NO INDICATIONS OTHERWISE, NO. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO ADAM TO CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THIS WILL BE

[2. Consider the Consent Agenda]

[3. Written Briefings:]

[4a. Transportation Initiatives Briefing]

COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR A CHANCE TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE INITIATIVES WE'VE GOT IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. WITH ME TODAY IS CAN'T CASE, SIR. HE'S WITH KIM LEE HORN AND HE'S THE CONSULTANT ON THIS FIRST ONE. THAT'S RIGHT OPTIMIZATION STUDIES. SO HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU'RE HAVING UM. SO THE FIRST ONE THE PHRASE NOT AFRAID OPTIMIZATION STUDIES IS A STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE BY THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS. THEY ARE. ENGAGED WITH KIM LEE HORN, WHO IS CONDUCTING THE STUDY. AND UH, THE STUDY IS ESSENTIALLY. UM TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET TRUCKS 18 WHEELERS DELIVERY TRUCKS, UM, INDUSTRIAL VEHICLES. DOWN THE ROAD MORE EFFICIENTLY AND MORE QUICKLY AND WITH LESS POLLUTANTS AND LESS FUEL CONSUMPTION. SO UM, THERE'S KIND OF TWO ASPECTS TO THAT. AND WHAT KIND OF GO INTO THOSE LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THE FIRST WAY IS IF THERE'S A TRUCK THAT'S MOVING DOWN THE ROAD SAY DOWN JUPITER ROAD. UM AND IN THE SIGNAL THERE IS IN IN SUCH A STATE THAT THEY WOULD IT WOULD BE ABOUT TO TURN RED BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PASS THROUGH THERE. THEY WOULD, THEY WILL. THEY'LL HAVE A DEVICE IN THERE AN APP ON THEIR PHONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UM LET THE SIGNAL NO THROUGH THROUGH THE CLOUD AND EVERYTHING AND INTO OUR SIGNAL SYSTEM AND IF THE SIGNAL IS ABLE TO EXTEND THE GREEN OR MAYBE TURNING GREEN A LITTLE BIT EARLY, IT WOULD. IT COULD MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO DO THAT. SO THAT THE 19 WHEELER DOESN'T HAVE TO COME TO A STOP AND THEN START AGAIN. THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS TO FEED INFORMATION BACK INTO THE DRIVER AS HE'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, AND IF THEY'RE GOING, UM SAY 40 45 MILES AN HOUR IN THE IN THE IN THE SYSTEM WOULD LET THEM KNOW THAT OKAY, IF YOU DRIVE 37 MILES AN HOUR OR 40 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'LL HIT ALL VOIDS GREEN SO UM AND ACTUALLY, THERE'S JUST AS AN ASIDE, THERE'S SOME OF THAT THAT'S IN PLACE ALREADY. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T I THINK AN AUDI OR BMW AND VOLKSWAGEN, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO YOU. NOW.

YOU CAN. YOU CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR CAR. WE'RE PROVIDING THAT OUT. OUT NOW WITH OUR SYSTEM. THE PROJECT IS TO THEY WANT TO GET 500 SIGNALS IN THE METROPLEX. OVER, PROBABLY ABOUT 10 AGENCIES. 10 TRUCKING. FLEET OPERATORS HOPING TO GET ABOUT 50,000 TRUCKS IN THIS UM PROJECT. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROAD. UM

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A COUPLE OF REASONS ONE WE HAVE UM, IT'S USING THE KIM LEE HORN SOFTWARE. WE HAVE THE KIM LEE HORN SAUCE SOFTWARE READY THAT WE USED TO CONTROL ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS. UM AND SO IT'S WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE ALREADY. WE CAN, I THINK, BE UP AND RUNNING HERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAVE A PRETTY LARGE INDUSTRIAL AREA. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT JUST OR JUST INDUSTRIAL AREAS, SO IT WOULD BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THEM. DOWN IN THAT AREA. WE WILL. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYWHERE THAT'S DONE THIS IN THE COUNTRY WILL BE A FIRST. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE AND GARLANDS FIRST ONE TO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS SO THEY'RE THE COG IS REALLY WANTING TO USE US AS A MODEL AND TO PROMOTE THIS AND TO ACTUALLY PROMOTE THIS OUT THROUGH THE MEDIA AND THE TRADE GROUPS AND DIFFERENT TRUCKING INDUSTRIES AND THEIR GROUPS AS WELL, SO WE'LL GET SOME GOOD PRESS THROUGH ALL OF THIS. THIS IS THE SIGNALS THAT WILL BE THE THAT WE'VE GOT ON THE LIST TO BE AFFECTED HOUSING SEE, PRIMARILY DOWN IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THESE ARE ALL ON TRUCK ROUTES. THE IDEA IS TO THAT THAT IF WE CAN SO ANOTHER WAY TO LET PEOPLE LET THE TRUCKERS KNOW WHERE WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, AND HOPEFULLY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GETTING A BENEFIT BY BEING ON THESE ROUTES, SO BE ANOTHER INCENTIVE TO THEM TO JUST STICK TO THESE ROUTES AND NOT NOT NOT BE WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. IS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS TO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY TO SIGN UP FOR THIS AND TO GET THEM ON BOARD. SO WITH THAT BIG HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. CASA RIVERA. PAUL HAVE YOU ALL DECIDED WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT? YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD. THAT WAS THE THIS, UM THIS AREA HERE, WHICH I DON'T I DON'T HAVE STREET NAMES ON HERE. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE SO IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU GOT FROM FOREST LANE REALLY SOUTH AND THEN DOWN, YOU KNOW BROADWAY FIRST. CENTERVILLE, JUPITER, SHILOH. UM BARS AND JUPITER, MILLER. RIGHT, MILLER KINGSLEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAN. MERE PROTEIN, MORRIS. THANK YOU, UM A COUPLE OF

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OH, TAB OMNI TRACKS THOSE TYPES OF AVIELLE MANUFACTURERS. THEN THEY ARE WELL. THE INTENT IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH WHATEVER ONBOARD SYSTEM IS ALREADY THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE MAJOR FREIGHT OPERATORS THEY USE TABLETS. THEY USE MOBILE PHONES, AND THEY ARE MOUNTED TO THE DASH. AND SO THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH INTERACTION MINIMIZED. BUT THE INFORMATION IS IN FRONT OF THEM. SHOULD THEY WANT IT LIKE THE WHAT PAULA IDENTIFIED BOTH AN ACTIVE AND A PASSIVE MEANS OF COMMUNICATING THAT INFORMATION. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE LARGEST MAJORITY OF TRUCKS ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW ARE ACTUALLY INDEPENDENCE, AND THAT IS HOW WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET. THAT PARTICULAR SECTOR OF TRUCK DRIVERS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS NATIONALS. OKAY SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE BUILT IN ONBOARD EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE SAYING THEY CAN USE THEIR TABLET , WHICH IS A LARGE NUMBER OF INDEPENDENTS STILL USE THOSE OR EVEN THEIR CELLPHONE. THE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE WORKS OFF OF BOTH APPLE CARPLAY AND ANDROID. SO IT'LL GO NATIVELY. I'LL USE THAT WORD ONTO ANY MOBILE DEVICE THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE USING. OKAY. AND THEN THE IN THE EARLIER, UM DESCRIPTION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRUCK APPROACHING A LIGHT THAT'S ABOUT TO TURN RED. AND THEY CAN THROUGH AN APP ON THEIR PHONE BASICALLY SAY I'M HERE. AND HAVE IT POSSIBLY EXTEND THE LIGHT. IS THIS GOING TO INVOLVE AN 18 WHEELER? TAKING HIS OR HER EYES OFF THE ROAD AND ACTUALLY TOUCH SCREENING SOMETHING, OR IS THIS A PASSIVE THING THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY NOTIFY THE LIGHTS? OF THEIR APPROACH BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU HAVING SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME ON THE ROAD. I HAVE SERIOUS MISGIVINGS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE, UH, DRIVERS OF 18 WHEELERS TO TAKE THEIR EYES OFF THE ROAD TO MESS WITH SOMETHING. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS, UM THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO KEEP THEM THEIR FOCUS ON THE ROADWAY. THE EXTENSION OF THE GREEN WOULD HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY . THEY WOULDN'T EVEN THERE'S ZERO INTERACTIONS. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT FROM A TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE IS THE GPS COORDINATES OF THE TRUCK. IS CONVEYED TO US THROUGH THE CLOUD. AND ENTER THE CLOUD. WE'RE BACK INTO OUR KIDS SYSTEM THAT THAT CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS RIGHT NOW, AND EVERYTHING IS DONE BEHIND THE SCENES. THE TRUCK DRIVER WOULDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN GOT A GREEN LIGHT. PERFECT YEAH, BECAUSE WHEN IT'S YOU, TRUCK DRIVERS CAN USE THEIR APP TO LET THAT THAT THAT WAS THE THING THAT CAUGHT MY EAR. AND IT'S IF IT'S ALL AUTOMATIC THAT'S WONDERFUL. YOU KNOW. AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS HAVE THINGS THAT LET THEM GET THREE LIGHTS IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY. SO BEFORE I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MISS INFORMING, THOUGH THERE IS THE PASSIVE DEVICE THAT PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS A THINK THERE WAS ONE OF THE IMAGES BACK TO SLIDES. I THINK ONE MORE SO THIS ONE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER KIND OF SHOWS YOU LIKE, UH, CARTOON VERSION OF WHAT INFORMATION WOULD BE ON AN APP TABLET. IT'S WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE A V L MANUFACTURERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AS TO WHAT THAT INFORMATION KIND OF LOOKS LIKE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU KIND OF A MONICA. WHATEVER THE WORD IS THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU STAY IN THIS ZONE RIGHT HERE, JUST KEEP CRUISING. IF AS LONG AS I GOT THAT I MEAN SNAPSHOT OF INFORMATION. THEY CAN CONTINUE ON AND KEEP THEIR EYES ON THE ROAD. AND THE IDEA ALSO IS TO TRY TO DO SOME AUDIBLE ALERTS BACK TO HIM. MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY OF DOING IT WITHOUT TAKING THEIR EYES OFF THE OFF THE ROAD. I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT CAN PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING TO CONSTANTLY BE LOOKING DOWN OR MUCH LESS TOUCH. ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE

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AND YOU HIT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TRUCKERS OUT THERE OUR INDEPENDENCE. SO HOW HOW ARE WE PLANNING ON MARKETING TO THEM? AND WISHING A PRAYER? NO, THERE IS NO HONESTLY SO IT'S WE'RE EARLY IN THE PROJECT. WE'VE GOT TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FIRMS THAT WORK FOR US. PUBLIC INFORMATION ASSOCIATES. YOU KNOW, CITY PARTNERS YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE, ACTUALLY HEARING GARLAND AS WELL. AND SO WE ARE DOING OUR OUTREACH. NOW WE'VE JUST GOTTEN GOTTEN A STANDARD ENGLISH. WE HAVE JUST SUBMITTED AND GOTTEN APPROVED. OUR OUTREACH PLAN THROUGH COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. AND SO SOME OF THOSE AVENUES ARE GOING THROUGH LIKE THE TEXAS TRUCKING ASSOCIATION, WOMEN IN TRUCKING WE'RE GOING TO DIRECTLY TO THE INLAND PORTS DOWN IN SOUTH DALLAS COUNTY, AS WELL AS ALLIANCE, TEXAS AS WELL AS THE MESQUITE SO PART OF THOSE OUTREACHES THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES THAT OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS OF INTEREST, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE LIKE ALLIANCE TAXES AND INLAND PORTS. THEIR CUSTOMER BASE. WORK WORKING THROUGH THE OWNERS, IT SAYS. WE NEED TO CONTACT THESE OWNERS WHO USE THESE SHIPPERS. AND THEN THOSE SHIPPERS ARE THE ONES THAT DO THE DREDGE AND THE THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HAVE THE LOCAL INDEPENDENT TRUCK FLEETS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THEM. AND ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. UH PAUL HAD TALKED ABOUT THE MEDIA OUTREACH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LINKEDIN, FACEBOOK. WHATEVER THE MEDIUM IS TRADE SHOWS. WILL BE THERE. TO ENTICE AND GET THEM TO USE THE SERVICE. AWESOME I THINK THIS

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WE WEREN'T LOOKING TO CREATE DIFFERENT CLASSES OF VEHICLE FOR THE PURPOSES OF GETTING THROUGH OUR STOPLIGHTS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE IDEA OF KNOWING WHAT OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING IS SLOWING VEHICLES DOWN TO OPTIMIZE THEIR ROUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PREEMPTING OR EXTENDING OR MANIPULATING OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO SERVE A COMMERCIAL ENTITY. THERE IS A LOT OF RED FLAGS FOR ME. I WOULD HATE TO TELL SOMEBODY THAT, UM WELL HEY, THIS TRUCKING COMPANY PAID MONEY, SO, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO GO BEFORE YOU AT THE LIGHT OR THEY'RE GOING TO DELAY YOU TRYING TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING BECAUSE THEY GET PRIORITY. SO IF YOU IF YOU REALLY REDUCE IT DOWN, IT BECOMES A HMM. I CAN PAY SOME COMMERCIAL THIRD PARTY MONEY AND I GET PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. AH YOU KNOW, ON ITS FACE. I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE USING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE I WOULD ASSUME FOR FREE. TO BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE OUR LIGHTS. UM.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY VALUE IN THE SYSTEM. I AGREE. IT MAY SAVE US IN A LITTLE BIT OF CLEAN AIR AND AGAIN. I REALLY LIKE THE PASSIVE TOOLS THAT HELP YOU BE A MORE EFFICIENT DRIVER. BUT I WOULD I WOULD STRONGLY STRONGLY OPPOSE ANYTHING THAT ALLOWS A COMMERCIAL FOR PROFIT ENTITY TO MANIPULATE OUR LIKE TIMING. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A QUESTION IN THERE, GUYS, BUT BUT LET ME STAND BACK FOR REBUTTAL HERE. I WOULDN'T THE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT I DO SEE THIS AS A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY. THAT I MEAN AND AT A I MEAN, I WOULD BE. WITH WITH THE WITH THE SMALL AMOUNT OF IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT MANIPULATION. UM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. IT WOULD BE UNNOTICEABLE TO ALMOST ANYBODY.

UM BUT THE BUT THE BENEFIT TO NOT NOT JUST TO THE TRUCK, BUT TO THE PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP BEHIND HIM. OR THAT HAVE TO WAIT BEHIND HIM WHILE HE STARTS UP AGAIN. I MEAN, I THINK THERE THERE IS A BENEFIT TO ALL OF ALL THE USERS ON THE ROAD. UM BESIDES JUST THIS, THE TRUCK THAT BENEFITS IF WE WERE IF WE WERE LIMITING THIS TO JUST THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE A. A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CROSS CITY ROUTES. CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THF ALL THE WAY FROM 30 INTO THE HEART OF THE CITY. AH I GET IT IF IT WERE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS BUT I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE IN STATING THAT THAT I DON'T MIND HELPING PEOPLE BE BETTER DRIVERS THROUGH THAT PASSIVE SYSTEM. AH! I THINK I WOULD OPPOSE THE SIGNAL TWEAKS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT GUARANTEES? WE SAID THIS WAS A CELLPHONE BASED APP. IS THAT CORRECT? AND FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT CAN POP THE CELL PHONE ON THE DASHBOARD AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THE COMMUNICATION AND THE TRACKING OF THE VEHICLE? THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE USING THEIR ONBOARD AVIELLE SYSTEM. SURE THE SECOND ONE IS THEY DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE AND THEY CAN USE THEIR MOBILE DEVICE. HOWEVER, THERE AGENT OR THEIR OWNER OPERATOR DICTATES HOW THEY CAN INTERFACE WITH THAT DEVICE. AND SO THERE'S I DON'T WANT TO GO FULL, SCARY PICTURE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING TO KEEP ONE OF THOSE OPERATORS FROM TAKING THAT CELL PHONE AND PUTTING IT IN THE DASHBOARD OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE? SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE PASSIVE IS STILL GOOD. THAT ACTIVE CONTROL REALLY BOTHERS ME. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU, MARY. VERY GOOD. COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MATE. GOOD EVENING, GENERAL. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.

HAVE ALREADY BEEN BEEN BEEN ASKED. BUT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM WOULD YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN? AH THE BENEFITS. OF THIS PROGRAM. TO THE GENERAL DRIVING PUBLIC. PAUL YOU YOU START

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AND YOU KNOW, WE LET'S SAY, UM, LET'S SAY FOR, UM 20 YARDS AWAY FROM SINGING, AND I SEE THAT THAT SIGNALIZED YELLOW WING. BUT THERE'S AN 18 MILLER CLOSER TO IT. SO I'M PREPARING TO STOP BECAUSE I'M EXPECTING RED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT CLEARS THE GREEN. THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING DRIVING PUBLIC USING THIS TECHNOLOGY, IT WOULDN'T IF IT'S GOING TO. IF IT'S GOING TO YELLOW ALREADY. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. IT WOULD ONLY AND ONLY EXTEND IF IT'S ALREADY GREEN WAS GOING TO GO GREEN AND THE NEXT AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW TIGHT WE CAN MAKE THIS BUT BE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS IT'S GOING TO EXTEND THE GREEN. THAT'S ALREADY THERE. OKAY SO IT'S NOT GONNA DO THE IN BETWEEN THE YELLOW, GREEN OR RED, RIGHT? RIGHT, RED. YOU MIGHT GET A GREEN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER COUPLE OF SECONDS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHIFTING OF JUST A FEW SECONDS, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I ALSO THINK I WOULD SAY TWO. IS THAT IF YOU DO AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRADING. I MEAN, WE DO THIS, YOU KNOW FAIRLY WE TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT PRETTY PRETTY REGULARLY, BUT IT'S IT DOES GET YOU KNOW, WE DO TWEET THE SIGNALS NOW AND THEN, TOO. TRY TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT, SO IN IMMEDIATE LOT OF TIMES, WELL TRICK OR TWEET THEM MORE THAN A FEW SECONDS, SO IT DOES, IF WE GET MORE TIME TO JUPITER, FOR INSTANCE. ANY OTHER CARS THAT HAPPENED TO BE TRAVELING ALONG WITH THE TRUCK WILL GET WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALSO SO OKAY, OKAY. YOU ALSO MENTIONED A COST BENEFITS, ANALYSIS AND. I THINK YOU SAID THIS IS SO WE'RE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WHICH YOU REPEAT. WHICH YOU SAID ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN. MENTIONED COST BENEFITS ANALYSIS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT'S THE ENDGAME OF THIS COST BENEFITS ANALYSIS? THERE'S A COUPLE OF PIECES TO THAT. LET ME DISSECT IT A LITTLE BIT. SO WE DO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICES, UM, PERFORMANCE METRICS TRACKING TASK. WHICH THE CITY WOULD BE A PART OF IDENTIFYING WHATEVER METRICS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TRACKED. NATIVELY WITHIN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE OF SOFTWARE AND DATABASES, DATA. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRACK AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW OFTEN THOSE PRIORITY CALLS WERE ACTUALLY EXTENDED, HOW IT WAS EXTENDED, WHETHER OR NOT THE GREEN PHASE WAS EXTENDED, OR THE EARLIER RETURN TO GREEN. READ TRUNCATION AS IT CAME BACK TO THE MAIN STREET WILL KNOW ALL OF THAT. UM SO WE'RE TRACKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, SO THAT'S A TRAVEL TIME. CALCULATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TRACKING. THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE CALL DELAY SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAVEL TIME SAVINGS, SO THERE'S A TRAVEL TIME COMPONENT. THERE IS A FUEL USAGE COMPONENT THAT IS EASILY CALCULATED WHEN WE DO THAT, AND WITHIN THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IN TERMS OF OUR ANNUAL SIGNAL RETIREMENT PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE GONNA LEVERAGE AND CAPTURE THE FUEL USAGE. THEN THERE'S THE AIRY MISSIONS IN WHICH IT WAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED BEFORE AS WELL. THE C 02 GASSES WILL BE THEIRS CALCULATIONS THAT CAN BE USED CALCULATIONS DEVELOPED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPLY THAT'S BASED ON TRUCK WEIGHT SPEED. UM, AND SPEED SAVINGS. TRAVEL TIME SAVINGS. SO THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE CALCULATED, AND SO THOSE WILL GO INTO WE'LL CALL IT THE BENEFITS POWER. WHAT WILL ALSO BE TRACKED . BUT WE'RE WE HAVEN'T DECIDED AS TO WHETHER NIGHT IT GOES INTO THE CALCULATION IS THE SAFETY BENEFITS. SO THERE IS DOCUMENTED BLE DATA THAT SHOWS US THAT A TRUCK MIGHT EITHER STOP ABRUPTLY TO MAKE YOU KNOW IF THE LIGHT IS TURNING RED ON THEM, THEY'LL STOP, WHICH MEANS ALL THOSE VEHICLES BEHIND THEM. THAT'S A REAR END CRASHES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE AT LEAST SOME RIGHT. THEN THE OTHER ONES ARE MAYBE THEY'RE TRYING TO

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PAUL HAD A LITTLE BIT OF COMPETITIVE NATURE TO HIM. HE COULD COMPARE THAT TO OTHER CITIES WITHIN THE METROPLEX THAT SAYS YOU KNOW WHERE? WHERE ARE ALL THE BENEFITS COMING FROM? WITHIN THE TOTAL. METROPLEX AREA THAT WE'VE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON, WHICH WAS AROUND 10 AGENCIES AND 500 TRAFFIC SIGNALS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THAT, OR DID I NEED TO EXTEND? EXPLAIN THAT? WELL ENOUGH, PAUL COUNCIL MEMBER . YEAH THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT RESPONSE ONE OTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED. SO THE FUNDING COVERS THE FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? CORRECT 0.3, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND YOU SAID IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT RIGHT SO I GUESS THEY'RE MEASUREMENTS AND MATRICES AND MILESTONES THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S SUCCESSFUL AND NOT CORRECT. CORRECT. THEY. THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS CREATING. LIKE SAYING THE LOCAL CITIES WHO ARE STAKEHOLDERS WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. BECAUSE WE'RE USING PUBLIC DOLLARS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PUT WORDS INTO THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS MOUTH, BUT WHAT THEY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IS AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS COLLECTIVELY, WE EVALUATE. HAVE WE BEEN DOING PUBLIC GOOD WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS? THAT'S THE ULTIMATELY HOW THEY DECIDE WHETHER THEY GO FORWARD. THAT'S FIRST ONE IS SAYING, DO WE GO FORWARD AT THE SECOND PIECE TO THAT IS HOW DOES THAT SECOND PIECE GET FUNDED AND LIKE PAUL WAS SAYING IT WAS AH, CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH SOME GRANT DOLLARS FEDERAL DOLLARS.

THERE WERE CARVED OUT FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TOTAL, UM, FUNDS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL MORRIS AND OTHERS THAT HAVE HELPED US DO THAT. BUT WE CAN'T PROJECT BEYOND THE FIVE YEARS IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DOLLARS ARE THERE OR NOT, WE HOPED THEY WOULD BE OR IF WE CAN MONETIZE IT TO THE POINT WHERE THE FREIGHT. FIND A WAY TO SAY YEAH, IT'S WORTH A QUARTER OF SIGNAL OR WHATEVER IT IS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY THEN WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE EXTENDED SERVICE THAT GOES BEYOND THE METROPLEX.

IDEALLY IT GOES ACROSS THE NATION BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS ARE GOING TO BE THEY SHOULD BE THERE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU . AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE TO IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT WHO WOULD ON THE PR SIDE WHAT THE CAR WOULD BE THE DRIVER ON THE ROAD OUT. I'D SAY WE GO THE SHORT WAY. WHAT WITH COG BEAT. THE DRIVER IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT IS FOR US HOW THIS IS ROLLED OUT OR UM ANNOUNCED TO OUR TO OUR PUBLIC OR WITH THE CITY OR SET A PARTNERSHIP. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD THAT WHAT WOULD THE ROLLOUT IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT? WHAT WERE THE ROLLOUT LOOK LIKE? AND IF I'M AHEAD OF AHEAD OF YOU LET TELL ME. WHAT WHO WOULD BE WHO WOULD BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT ON THE ROLLOUT? AND WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH LORD ? SO WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE CITY. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. AS WE SAID, WE'VE GOT TO PR SUB CONSULTANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US. KIMBERLY HORN AS A FIRM HAS HER OWN MARKETING FIRM. ASSOCIATED THAT'S WANTING TO DO THIS AS WELL. SO. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, OR POSSIBLY BOTH. AS I SAID, WE'RE HERE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO DO THIS. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT IF WE IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE THE LEAD ON PROMOTING THE WORD, THEN WE WILL DO THAT. IF THE CITY SAYS NO, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS

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THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. MAYOR PRO TEM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM SMITH. THANK YOU, MARY.

SORRY FOR PUNCHING IN A SECOND TIME. QUICK FOLLOW UP, AND THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE TRUE MY IGNORANCE ON EMISSIONS. IF YOU HAVE A SEMI THAT'S GOING THROUGH A LIGHT. UM PREFERENTIAL MANNER.

I KNOW THAT MEANS THAT CARS FROM THE OPPOSING DIRECTIONS WILL BE SITTING LONGER. YOU SAID THAT THE CARD BELIEVES, AND Y'ALL BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A SAVINGS FROM AN AIR QUALITY PERSPECTIVE.

HOW MANY CARS EQUAL? ONE SEMI. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S A TRADE OFF, BUT THERE'S NO GAIN. WHAT IS THAT GAME LOOK LIKE? HOW WAS THAT QUANTIFIED? IS THERE IS THERE A BODY OF DATA THAT I CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH ON MY OWN WHERE WE CAN WE CAN QUANTIFY AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT. I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD AS FAR AS HOW MANY PROBABLY DEPENDS ON WHICH SEMA IN WHICH CARS SURE, LITTLE TOUGH TO ANSWER, BUT AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE STUDY IS TO FIND OUT IS YOU KNOW HOW MANY CARS ARE SITTING OVER HERE? WAITING VERSUS HOW MANY TRUCKS, TRUCKS AND CARS ARE GETTING THROUGH AND HOW I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE IDEAL SITUATION IF WE IF EVER YOU HAVE A TRUCK GETS GETS ADDITIONAL TIME. THERE MAY BE NO NOBODY IS WAITING. I MEAN, THERE'S IT MAY JUST BE ADVANCING A LITTLE AHEAD OF WHAT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE SO AND WE DON'T WE WON'T KNOW THAT. REALLY? UNTIL WE UNTIL WE GET TO GET INTO IT, SO OKAY, AND THERE'S BEEN NO MODELING. DONE THAT WOULD GIVE US ANY ANY PROJECTIONS ON THIS. I DON'T THINK SO. THAT'S CLOSE TO THAT. UM, THE PASSIVE METHODOLOGY. THE SECOND ONE WE KIND OF DESCRIBED YEAH. SMALL STUDY IN OTTAWA, CANADA. THAT WAS DONE AND THERE IS SOME DATA FROM THERE THAT WILL GIVE US INSIGHTS AS TO WHAT THE DIFFERENT BENEFITS ARE FROM THE PASSIVE BEANS. OKAY I'LL LOOK IT UP AFTER THE MEETING, AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD EASILY FORWARD, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. COUNCILOR MORE THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I'D BE INTERESTED IN THOUGHT HE WAS HERE. I SAW HIM A LITTLE EARLIER. I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE THINKS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. HAVE YOU ALREADY CONSULTED WITH THE UN REGARD? HAVEN'T TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT NOW. I THINK THAT AS I'M SURE AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED. WE SEEM LIKE WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH OUR TRAFFIC BY WAY OF FACE RECOGNITION, BY WAY OF, UH. WATCHING CHORUS IDENTIFYING AUTOMOBILES AND THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE JUST ANOTHER, UH, SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH OUR TRAFFIC IN THE WAY THAT ROBERT SMITH HAS JUST STATED I REALLY DO AGREE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO GIVE SOMEONE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER OTHER DRIVERS. NOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG EITHER. SITTING ON THE KOCHS. I'VE HEARD. WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED HERE BEFORE, AND I HEAR THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN FAVOR OF IT AT THE SAME TIME DO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS IN THE WAY OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE INITIATING IT AND SOMEONE GETTING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER OTHER DRIVERS? SO I'D RATHER I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND WHAT HE WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM ALSO THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. YEAH. NO, CERTAINLY. OKAY? VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH AND I'M GONNA CLEAR OUT TO CUBA'S. I THINK WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE IN WHO WE'RE IN AND THEN BACK OUT. ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? AS WE ROUND AROUND THE BEND ON THIS, OKAY, SO UM. I KNOW THIS WAS POSTED AS A BRIEFING ONLY. SO WHAT? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE UM, I THINK THEY'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. SO OKAY, UM. AND JUST IN IN LOOKING AT LOOKING AT THE MAP. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THE I'M I SAY OBVIOUSLY. IS THE INTENDED GOAL. IS TO FACILITATE. TRUCKS GETTING TO THE FREEWAY. OF THOSE

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RIGHT? HOW MAKING SENSE OF IT IS I THINK THE CHALLENGE I MEAN, YOU'LL HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ALREADY. SO AND WHAT DO YOU EVEN WELL, THERE'S THANK YOU. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS THERE. ONE OF THEM IS PAUL TALKED ABOUT IS THE WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT THE DATA PRETTY MUCH INSTANTANEOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO OUR CURRENT DASHBOARD DESIGN IS TO ROLL UP THE DATA FROM THE PREVIOUS 24 HOURS JUST TO PUT A MARKER IN THE SAND, BUT WE WILL KNOW DATA, UH, AS QUICK AS IT'S USEFUL TO US, AND THEN YOU KNOW, GOING BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY YOU KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY IS THIS IS FREIGHT PRIORITY. UM AND SO FROM THERE, I MEAN, THE DASHBOARD THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT TO US. YOU KNOW WHAT THE FIELD SAVINGS ARE ? THAT'S BEEN CALCULATED C O M. C C. 02 EMISSIONS THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO YOU WILL KNOW THOSE TYPES OF DATA POINTS. UM AS PAUL ALSO HAD MENTIONED DATA SHOWS THAT EVEN WHEN WE DO THIS FOR TRANSIT, NOBODY KNOWS NOBODY SEES THE DIFFERENCE. THE TRANSIT DOES RIGHT BECAUSE THEY SEE THE BENEFIT OF WHAT IT DOES TO THEIR STOPS, BUT TO THE COMMON MOTORISTS MAY NEVER KNOW IT. AND IT'S EVEN YOU KNOW, FROM MY BENEFIT ARE A MEASUREMENT OF SIDE STREET DELAY AND OTHER USERS OF THE INTERSECTION. IT'S VERY NEGLIGIBLE IN TERMS OF THEIR TOTAL IMPACTS. THAT'S SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON IN TERMS OF SAYING HERE'S WORK HERE'S WHERE WE'RE FINDING THE TRENDS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SORRY I'M SLIGHTLY OFF YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THAT BY TRACKING THE FREIGHT MOVEMENTS AND WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE PRIORITY CALLS OR THE REQUESTS FOR PRIORITY CALLS COME IN. WE'LL KNOW WHERE THE A LOT OF THE FREIGHT ACTIVITY IS GOING ON THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW. CURRENTLY TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST WATCHING IT. BUT THE DATA. WE'LL COME OUT AND TELL US THIS INFORMATION. SO WE BELIEVE THAT WORKING WITH THE CITY THROUGH THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO ADVISE THEM OR SEE DATA THAT SAYS, BASED ON THE DATA THAT'S COMING THROUGH. WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT ALTERING OUR TIMING'S SO THAT THIS PROBLEM GOES AWAY BY ITSELF. RIGHT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KEEP THE VEHICLES FROM STOPPING. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM STARTING AND THAT'S WHERE THE MISSIONS OR THERE ARE THE WORST. SO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE ANECDOTAL THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY ON AND ANALYZE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROJECT. IT'S COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY SERMONS AWARE WHEN YOU WANT TO OPT IN.

IF SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT, YOU CANNOT BACK OUT. SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

UM, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM OUT THERE, GENERALLY YOUR TELEPHONE START RINGING AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE OUT THERE. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DATA POINTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE CITY ON AND SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR.

AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE OPTIMIZING OF THE OF THE SYSTEM. AND IF IT IF IT IF IT STARTS TO MOVE. THAT'S WHAT WE START TO LOOK AT THE DATA AS WE GO. AND WE CAN SET UP THINK SIGNALS SIGNAL WHAT WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT SO YOU KNOW IT. ONE SIGNAL IT MAYBE THREE SECONDS

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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND SO THAT REALLY BUGS ME THE OTHER QUESTION. I HAVE DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN THE I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT PREEMPTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR. BUT I DON'T KNOW PRIORITY. THE IS IT POSSIBLE TO TOGGLE THE PRIORITY MODULE ON AND OFF ON THE BACK

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SHOULD WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER IT'S BY TIME OF DAY OR IF WE'D LIKE PAUL WAS SAYING WE COULD ACTUALLY EXCLUDE WHATEVER SIGNALS WE WANT TO EXCLUDE? LONG ANSWER TO SAY WE CAN TURN IT ON AND OFF. NOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GIVING PAUL THE MASHING BUTTON TO DO THAT, BUT SURE, STAFF WE CAN OPEN AND CLOSE THE SERVICE. OKAY SO IT IS CONFIGURABLE. THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART. LIKE A LOT OF THIS WE CAN SOLVE. AND MAN, THIS IS GOING TO COME ACROSS AS CONCEITED POEMS. SORRY THAT WE CAN SOLVE THIS WITH LIGHT TIMING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE MAGIC BULLET FOR EVERYTHING. RIGHT? UE MY NAME WITH A LOT OF CURSE WORDS IT'S OKAY. I'M ALRIGHT WITH THAT. UH YEAH. I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT GO IN. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO TURN ON THE PRIORITY. SYSTEM AT ALL. I MEAN, I GET THAT WERE TRYING TO HELP BETA THIS THING, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TURNED OFF FROM MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT. THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT WITH IT. THANK YOU, SIR. VERY GOOD. CANCER LOOK THE PRIORITY SYSTEM TELL SOUNDS LIKE A EXPRESS LANE KIND OF THING TO ME, WHICH I USED TO EXPRESS ALL THE TIME, SO I'M NOT REALLY TERRIBLY AGAINST IT. BUT MY THING IS, UM IF YOU GET QUANTIFIABLE. VALUABLE RESULTS FROM THIS SYSTEM. WHY WOULDN'T YOU THEN JUST USE IT FOR ALL VEHICLES, ALL SIGNALS AND THEN JUST I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BECOME MUCH BIGGER AND MORE VALUABLE TO US AS A SOCIETY AS A SOCIETY, OR IS IT ARE WE JUST LOOKING TO KEEP IT IN THIS FREIGHT? AH! IN THIS LITTLE FREIGHT BUBBLE. HMM THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. THE I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK HE I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I MEAN, IT'S THE I GUESS THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THAT. I MEAN, IT IS. IT IS JUST TWEAKING THE SIGNAL TIMING AND I THINK EFFECTIVELY WHAT YOU DO IS YOU, YOU GIVE A LOT MORE. BUT YOU GIVE A LOT MORE TIME TO THROUGH ST AND THE PEOPLE ON THE SIDE STREET. WAIT, WAIT LONGER.

AND WHICH WHICH IS I MEAN, WE DO WE DO GIVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT NOW TO BE THE CASE THROUGH MOVEMENT. SO WE WERE ALREADY GIVING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO SOME VEHICLES AND NOT OTHERS. UM DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE SO OKAY? COULD YOU? COULD YOU EXPAND IT TO MORE AND DO MORE WITH IT? I THINK CERTAINLY YOU COULD. UM I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO? IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL? I MEAN, IN FIVE YEARS ARE YOU GOING TO COME BACK? AND IS IT YOUR PLAN TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE'VE DONE GREAT WITH FREIGHT. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THIS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE POINT. REALLY OKAY. I MEAN, AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DONE DOWN HERE, WHERE IT AS WE GO INTO THEIRS. A LOT. I'LL THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS, AND THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING. THE STUDY IS TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, SO AND LIKE, LIKE KEN'S BEEN SAYING WHERE WE'RE THROUGH THIS PROJECT. WE MAY IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED TO. JUST GIVE MORE GREEN TIME TO THIS MOVEMENT ON THIS AT THIS SIGNAL , SO THERE'S I MEAN, IT WILL HELP US. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF FIGURE OUT WHERE TO WHERE TO GET GREEN TIME TO WHEN I VISITED TRANSPORTATION SHOWED ME SOME SCREENS THAT HAD LIKE VIRTUAL BLOCKS ON THE STREET AT STREET LIGHTS, AND BASICALLY WHEN THOSE BLOCKS THOSE SPACES WERE FILLED AT TIME TO THE LIGHTS DIFFERENTLY. UM IS THAT A KIM LEE HORN SOFTWARES? ARE THOSE GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER? THAT'S THE DETECTION IN THE STREET. THAT WE USED TO TURN TURN CHANGE THE SIGNAL TO THE SIDE STREET OR. THE LEFT TURN

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YOU SAID THIS IS THE FIRST SUCH PROJECT FROM THE COG. IN TEXAS AT FIRST PROJECT, RIGHT IT IS OKAY. ALRIGHT I LOVE WHEN YOU SAID FIRST WITH GARLAND. I'D LIKE BEING FIRST. OKAY? PARTICULARLY WORSE. IT YEAH, FOR THE FIRST, UM AND MY OTHER LIFE. I KNOW THESE KINDS OF THE MONEY'S COMES COMES OUT OF D O T RIGHT THROUGH THE THEIR BUREAUCRACY RIGHT FOR THE GRANT FUNDING RIGHT? OKAY GREAT. AND THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T THEY USED PISTOLS? THEY DON'T USE SHOTGUNS SO IN TO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENT , SO THIS IS A PISTOL APPROACH. THAT'S WHAT THEY USED, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY'LL SEE THEIR BACK UP AND SEE IF THE PISTOL HIT THE TARGET. AND THEN THEY'LL UPGRADE THE THEY THE AMMUNITION. SO I'M FOR IT S LONG AS WE CAN GET. IN RESPONSE TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS. THE DATA. TO SEE AND THE ROLLOUT. AH! THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS. INNOVATIVE TO ME, AND, UH, WITH YOU KNOW, I LOVE BEING FIRST, AND I LOVE FOR CALLING BEING FIRST. SO WE CAN WE, UM I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO SEE YOU KNOW THE IMPACT. YOUR YOUR DATA COMES BACK. AND FINALLY, ONE QUESTION YOU MENTIONED AND I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THIS TO US CITY MANAGER YOU SAID DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS? ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION? HOW IS OUR CITIES I T PUT TWO RELATIONSHIP HERE AND WHETHER IT BE ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON ON THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES OR RESOURCES NEEDED, ETCETERA. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? THEN I'M GONNA I KNOW THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THEM. THEY ARE IN I MEAN, WE THEY ACTUALLY ARE WORKING WITH THEIR IN OUR SYSTEM ALREADY BECAUSE WE HAVE THEIR SOFTWARE, SO OKAY, IT'S REALLY AN EXTENSION OF WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING. OKAY? I DON'T ANTICIPATE BEING ANY ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT? OKAY THE OTHER THING, I WOULD SAY I WHAT ? WHAT I CAN'T COMMIT TO YOU THAT WE WILL. WE'LL GET THE DATA TO YOU. I MEAN, WE I JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD COMMIT ON A TIME AT THIS. I'M NOT. I'M NOT. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SO CAUGHT UP ON THE TIME BECAUSE SHE CAN. YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT YOU TO MICROWAVE SOMETHING. I THINK YOU SAY YOU'VE GOT A FULL BREAKFAST, YOU KNOW? BREAKFAST PREPARED OVER TWO HOURS. YEAH, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN A MICROWAVE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A BREAKFAST. YOU KNOW IT'S COOKED, BUT IT DIDN'T. OKAY SO I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE MICROWAVE EDITION ON THIS LOOKING FOR THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IT, BUT I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. AND YOU MAKE YOU MENTIONED MICHAEL MORRIS AND SOME OTHER FOLKS FROM ALL THERE , AND I KNOW THIS PROCESS GOES. SO WE'RE THE FIRST TO RECIPIENTS OF THIS GRANT. LET'S GO FOR IT. CITY MANAGER ANY FROM AN R T PERSPECTIVE, ANY COMMENTS OBSERVATIONS AS RELATES TO WORKING WITH THIS PROJECT? NO SIR, THIS IS THIS IS NOT A SYDNEY SIGNIFICANT DEMAND ON THE DEPARTMENT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK. THANK YOU, MR AARON. ONE THING IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ALMOST WOULD LIKE TO SEE A B TEST DATA OF PRIORITY ON AND OFF TO SEE IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

IN AND I THINK GATHERING IN THE DAY IS GOING TO DEPEND ON THE SIGNIFICANT MASSIVE USERS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY USERS WOULD BE. IF WE GO JANUARY 1ST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE. IN THE SYSTEM AT THAT POINT TO BE ABLE TO GET DATA BACK QUICKLY, SO I THINK THAT WILL DEPEND ON YOUR MARKETING AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU GETTING THE WORD OUT. BUT IF I

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AND THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST OF YOUR TOPICS. I MEAN, YOU CAN LEAVE IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE WATCHING SO THAT YES. SO THE NEXT THE NEXT. THANK YOU, SIR. THE NEXT THING I HAVE IS JUST, UH. GRANT APPLICATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FILING IS DUE. IT'S DUE ON FRIDAY. UM FOR AN AUTOMATED VEHICLE SHUTTLE BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN IN THE V, A HOSPITAL. UM SO. THE CURRENT BUS ROUTE BETWEEN BETWEEN THERE IS, UH, RUNS ON ABOUT 40 TO 60 MINUTES OFF PEAK CYCLE, SO IT'S IF YOU MISS THE BUS. YOU MIGHT BE WAITING UP TO CLOSE TO AN HOUR FOR THE NEXT ONE TO COME ALONG, UM THE IN ORDER TO GET WHAT'S KIND OF CONSIDERED RELIABLE. SERVICE THAT YOU CAN DEPEND ON AND KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IF I IF I IF I TAKE THE TRANSIT THERE, I CAN GET BACK ON A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND WHEN I EXPECT TO AND SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET SOME KIND OF A CIRCULATOR ROUTE BETWEEN THE TWO. UM THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR TODAY, BUT JUST IN THE FUTURE. THE SO THE GOALS WOULD BE TO IMPROVE THE TRANSIT SERVICE BETWEEN THE BETWEEN THE TWO DESTINATIONS, INCLUDING THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UM AND REALLY PROMOTE A WALKABLE DOWNTOWN AREA AND ALSO WALKABLE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON THERE UM AND JUST WORKING ON KIND OF THE LIVE WORK PLAY WHERE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COULD PEOPLE COULD LIVE DOWNTOWN. THEY CAN WORK HERE, AND THEY CAN ALSO, UM DO DO ALL THE PLAYING THAT THEY WANT TO DO. UM SO JUST LOOKING AT THE TWO AREAS, THIS IS A QUICK KIND OF BLOCK DIAGRAM OF PUT TOGETHER. STEVE GOT YOU KNOW, OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE. YOU'VE GOT THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ARTS THINGS THAT WE HAVE YOU GOT THE SQUARE THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NICE AND A LOT GOING ON. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE RETAIL THE OF COURSE, THE DARK TRANSIT CENTER THERE THE COLLEGE. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES . AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME RETAIL IN THE MIDDLE THERE WITH WHERE THE KROGER IS AND YOU'VE ALSO GOT AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE V, A HOSPITAL AFTER THE LEFT AND ALL OF THE ACTIVITY THAT THAT'S BEING BEING PROGRAMMED THERE, SO THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO LINK THIS BOTH OF THESE AREAS AND EVEN SOME IN BETWEEN WITH WITH A FREQUENT TYPE OF A CIRCULATOR SHUTTLE. UM SMART GRANT IS A IS A GRANT FROM THE F H W A. THAT'S OUT RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S $100 MILLION NATIONWIDE, SO IT'S SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR IT. UM, THERE IS, UH, THE MONEY IS FOR IN THIS IN THIS PART OF MONEY IS A IS FOR PLANNING AN INITIAL DEPLOYMENT SO WE WOULD DO THE PLANNING, WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND THEN ALSO BY THE VEHICLES AND PAY FOR PROBABLY A YEAR, FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION. IT'S 100% FEDERAL MONEY. THERE'S NO MATCHING MONEY THAT'S REQUIRED.

WERE RECORDED. AMAZING THE MOST. YOU CAN ASK FOR US $2 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UM AND SO. IN ORDER TO WE CAN'T JUST ASK FOR A MONEY FOR A SHUTTLE SERVICE. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING INNOVATIVE AND ADVANCED AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A SHELL MERCER SHUTTLE SERVICE THAT WOULD BE AN AUTOMATED VEHICLE OR VEHICLES. UM. AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AUTOMATIC VEHICLES. THEY ARE UM THEY ARE MAKING ADVANCES VERY RAPIDLY. BUT THERE'S STILL A LITTLE WAYS TO GO. SO THERE'S UH YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME AN AUTOMATED VEHICLE DRIVES DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S CONSTANTLY COLLECTING DATA. JUST YOU KNOW, TERABYTES AND TERABYTES AND

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EVERYTHING. AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. SOMEONE SAID THAT YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOG INTO IT HAS TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU LOG INTO A SIDE HAS TO DETERMINE THAT YOU'RE HUMAN AND NOT A ROBOT. SO YOU HAVE TO PICK OUT, YOU KNOW, PICK OUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS OUT OF THIS THING THAT IT ACTUALLY THOSE IT'S ACTUALLY USING THOSE IN IN THESE AUTOMATED VEHICLES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL LOOKS LIKE AND YOU KNOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ANGLES AND SHADING AND ALL THAT SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S COLLECTING. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. THEY CAN'T.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OPERATE MORE THAN 25 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY DO HAVE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER BEHIND THE WHEEL. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PUTTING A SHUTTLE OUT THERE.

THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING 60 MILES AN HOUR WITH NO DRIVERS, SO LAY ALL THOSE FEARS TO REST. UM THEY DO HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND SO WE HAVE WE BY THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND THERE'LL BE SOME CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DETAILS BECAUSE WE THAT'S WHERE GETTING ASKING FOR THE MONEY SO WE CAN DEVELOP THE DETAILS, BUT UM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF IT.

YOU KNOW? NUTSHELL. THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING LUCK. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM IT IS OBVIOUSLY HOW MANY HOW MANY VETS ARE YOU ABLE TO SHUTTLE TO AND FROM? I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US A GOOD BETTER. IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO THE TRAVELING TO THE A FROM DART, AND THAT WOULD BE THE INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. THE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY . NO, I MEAN AFTER YOU IF AND WHEN AND AFTER THE PROGRAM IS HAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS HAVING MORE MORE LIKE A LIKE A 15 PASSENGER VAN TYPE OF A VEHICLE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SO IT WOULDN'T BE A LIKE A MINIBUS OR A BUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS A SORT OF OVERSIZED VAN. NO I MEAN HOW MANY PEOPLE UTILIZE THE ROUTE.

LIKE I OH, I DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM THE PROGRAM IF AND WHEN IT'S SIMPLE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TUNE SMITH. I SUPPORT THE IDEA. JUST GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. NOW. THESE CAN'T PREEMPT TRAFFIC LIGHTS. CAN THEY OKAY? ALRIGHT I WANTED TO GET THAT. NOT YET. IT'S NICE. UM DO WE HAVE SOME IDEA? I ASSUME THE FEDERAL FUNDING WILL FALL OFF IN YEAR TWO WON'T NEED TO SUPPORT THIS INTERNALLY. SOMEHOW IS THIS GOING TO BE A CITY THING? JOHN ENVISION IT AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH DART. AND DO WE HAVE ANY JUST REALLY BALLPARK. INITIAL PROJECTIONS ON YEARLY COST FOR THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WE'LL BE COMMITTING THE COUNCIL TO SOME FUTURE EXPENSE. SO WE WE'VE ASKED THAT AND BY WE WERE ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THE GRANT WE STARTED. DO WE ALREADY COMMITTED TO CONTINUING IT? I AM. WE'RE AND WE'RE NOT, UM SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS, WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE IT. UM IF THERE IS, I WILL SAY THERE IS ANOTHER POT OF MONEY THAT FOLLOWS THIS. THAT, UM. YOU'RE YOU'RE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR THAT POT IF YOU GET THIS PART SO WE'LL BE APPLYING FOR THAT SO THAT THAT COULD PUSH YOU OUT SOUND EVEN EVEN FURTHER AND THEN AND THEN ONGOING COSTS. I DID. I DID HAVE THAT NUMBER. I CAN'T. I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT IT WAS RIGHT NOW. BUT, UM WAS COMMERCIALLY UTILIZED ELECTRIC VEHICLE. I WAS GUESSING 10% OF THE ACQUISITION INTO A SINKING FUND JUST FOR THE EQUIPMENT PLUS A DRIVER THAT WAS I THINK MAYBE A YEAR. OKAY OKAY. AND ARE WE REQUIRED TO LET'S SAY THE CIRCULATOR GETS GOING AND PEOPLE JUST AREN'T USING IT AND YOUR TWO OR THREE? CAN WE REPURPOSE THAT CIRCULATOR INTO ANOTHER AREA, SAY DOWNTOWN OR TO CONNECT UP TO FOREST JUPITER STATION INTO THE V A. I MEAN, DO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN PROGRAMMING? THE ROUTE IS NOT DETERMINED. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA ROUTE SO FITS WITHIN WHAT WE DESCRIBE. YEAH, IT'S FLEXIBLE. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, MAN. I ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR BASS. THANK YOU, UM. ALL DO WE FORESEE THIS BEING A FREE SERVICE? YEAH WE'RE I MEAN, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING CHARGING FOR THIS. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT . LOOKS LIKE WE CLEARED THE Q

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[4b. City of Garland Public Art Process]

SEE HOW THEY WAITED FOR EACH OTHER. THAT WAS TRAFFIC CONTROL RIGHT THERE. ONE CAME IN ONE STOPPED. THERE'S AN APP FOR THAT. YEAH. THAT ONLY HAPPENS IF THE TWO THAT ARE CROSSING AS POLICE OR FIRE THEY KNOW I'M A NON CONFRONTATIONAL DRIVER. GO WITH FIRST. WE CAN JUST DO THE PRESENTATION. THERE WE GO. YEAH. FANTASTIC. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE BACK. SO I'M AMY ROSENTHAL, CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR ALONG WITH MR HESSER. AND TONIGHT WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION ABOUT CULTURAL ARTS , AND WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH THE PUBLIC ART PROCESS. SO JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER COUNCIL APPROVED A PUBLIC ART PLAN IN JUNE OF 2021. THESE ARE THE GOALS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THE GOALS AS WE LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC ART PROCESS. SO TO PROVIDE EXPERIENCES IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOWNTOWN FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO GROW OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH TO CELEBRATE AND SUPPORT DIVERSITY AND HERITAGE TO SUPPORT AND ATTRACT ARTISTS AND CREATIVES TO FOSTER COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS INTO OPTIMIST MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS. SO WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID THAT TOP PRIORITY FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS PLAN WAS TO LOOK AT A PUBLIC ART POLICY AND PROCESS AND JUST TO REMEMBER , THIS IS JUST FOR ARTWORKS THAT UM OR EITHER SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC DOLLARS OR ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. OKAY SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE APPROACH. UM WE HAVE LOTS OF DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF GARLAND THAT INTERACT WITH PUBLIC ART, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT , NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY. DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT. UM AND SO THE FUNDING VARIOUS PROJECT BY PROJECT SO WHY IS PUBLIC ART IMPORTANT? YOU ALL KNOW THAT IT ADDS A SENSE OF IDENTITY AND PRIDE. IT ADDS QUALITY OF LIFE FOR A RESIDENCE. IT'S AN ATTRACTION FOR VISITORS. IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS GARLAND AS A DESTINATION BRINGS IN THOSE CULTURAL TOURISTS. THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO SHOP LOCAL, ENJOY OUR RESTAURANTS AND ENCOURAGES PRIVATE INVESTMENT AS WELL. IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, ROBERT ALAN SMITH HAS LOTS OF FANTASTIC ARTWORK IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, AND WE WANT TO SEE MORE. OF THAT. SO CONSIDERATIONS ON THE APPROACH, SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP, UM, THINKING ABOUT A PUBLIC ART PROCESS, IT'S HOW ARE THESE PROJECTS DETERMINED? WHO'S MAKING THE SELECTION.

WHAT'S THE CRITERIA TO EVALUATE A PROJECT? UM I'VE SEEN AN INITIAL GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC ART FROM A FEW YEARS AGO. UM AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED WHAT IT WAS TOO RESTRICTIVE FOR THE ARTISTS THAT IT WAS ALMOST MONITORED CONTENT MORE THAN THE PROCESS, SO WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT PROCESS. WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES IN NORTH TEXAS AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO HELP FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR GARLAND. AND SO WHY IS A PROCESS IMPORTANT? WELL IT FULFILLS A GOAL FOR CULTURAL ARTS PLAN, AND IT CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT GARLAND IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN. GARLAND IS A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE A BUSINESS AND TO VISIT IT ALSO HEIGHTENS THE VISIBILITY AS A PLACE FOR ARTISTS AND ARTISTS . YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT CONTINUING CULTURAL ARTS INVESTMENT IN GARLAND. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR CONSISTENT AND TRANSPARENT AND EQUITABLE APPROACH AS WE EXPAND OUR INITIATIVES. SO THIS ALL STARTS WITH AN ARTIST SELECTION POOL, AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO

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SIGNATURE. DEVELOPMENT AND PARKS AND RECREATION ASSETS, AND WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE TYPES , THERE WOULD BE AN ACCOMPANYING DEPARTMENT AS THE PROJECT SPONSOR. OKAY? SO THIS IS A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF HOW THE PROCESS WOULD WORK. THERE WOULD BE AN APPLICANT. IT'S EITHER AN INTERNAL APPLICANT AND AN EXTERNAL APPLICANT. THEY WOULD IDENTIFY THE PROJECT AND THE DEPARTMENT SPONSOR THEY WOULD OUTLINE THE BUDGET IN THE FUNDING SOURCES THEY WOULD ADDRESS HOW THE PROJECT SUPPORTS GOALS FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS PLAN. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TOOK AWAY WHEN, AFTER TALKING TO COUNCIL WAS YOU ALL WANT TO SEE THIS PLAN PUT INTO ACTION AND YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE YOU WANT TO SEE SOME COORDINATED EFFORTS TO MAKE THE PLAN WORK.

THE IN THE PROJECT PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT WOULD ALSO NEED TO DESCRIBE HOW THEY WOULD OUTREACH AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. SO THE FLOW IS, THE DEPARTMENT WOULD RECEIVE THE PROPOSAL. UM THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HELP ASSEMBLE THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL AGAIN . THEY'RE PICKING FROM THOSE FOLKS FROM THE POOL THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION THERE BE A CALL FOR ARTISTS OR CALL FOR ENTRIES. THAT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, R F P PROCESS OR AN R F Q PROCESS. THERE WOULD BE A FINALIST SELECTED THERE WOULD BE A CONTRACT AND A PRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT. SO LET'S LET'S TAKE A LOOK. LET'S TEST DRIVE IT. TEST DRIVE THE PROCESS. YOU DO HAVE THE CHART. THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM ANDY'S WHITE BOARD. KIND OF A MASTERMIND. YOU HAVE A CHART TO FOLLOW ALONG, TOO, IF YOU'D LIKE. SO THIS IS A PROJECT IN A LIBRARY. OKAY SO LET'S SAY THAT THIS IS AN INTERNAL APPLICANT.

THE DEPARTMENT SPONSORS OBVIOUSLY THE LIBRARY AND HOW WOULD THEY FUND IT? THEY WOULD USE A FUNDS FROM THE CULTURAL DISTRICT GRANT. OR C I. P DOLLARS THE LIBRARY. THIS LIBRARY TEAM WOULD HELP SELECT THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL. A CALL IS ISSUED AND ARTIST OR PROJECT IS IDENTIFIED AND THEN IT WOULD MOVE ON TO CONTRACT SO THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERNAL EXAMPLE. HERE'S A EXTERNAL EXAMPLE. OKAY SO LET'S SAY IT'S A DOWNTOWN MURAL, SO IT'S A IT'S AN EXTERNAL APPLICANTS, A PROPERTY OWNER, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY WOULD WORK ALONGSIDE THE SPONSORING DEPARTMENT. THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. UM THEY WOULD IDENTIFY THE FUNDING.

LET'S SAY IT'S A TIFF WITH A PRIVATE MATCH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS PUTTING IN SOME FUNDS AS WELL, TOO. THE DOWNTOWN WOULD HELP SELECT THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL CALL IS ISSUED AND AN ARTIST AND A PROJECT TO SELECTED OKAY. ANOTHER EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY THAT THIS, UH THERE'S A SKATEBOARDING CLUB THAT WANTS TO, UM SUGGEST MOSAIC ON THE RAMP. OKAY SO THE SKATEBOARD CLUB PUTS TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL SENDS IT ON TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM. THEY HAVE PRIVATE DOLLARS TO FUND THIS, BUT IT'S ON A PUBLIC ASSET. THE DEPARTMENT PARKS AND REC TEAM

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SIGNAL BOXES. SIDEWALK ART LIGHT PULL BANNERS, WAY FINE SIGNS AND EXISTING ARTWORK OR PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN MOTION ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE OF THE PROCESS. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK AND HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR TIM MORRIS. EXCUSE ME. GOOD JOB THAT THAT'S MOST OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY. BUT I LOVE THE CLEAN NOUS AND THE LOGIC OF THE FLOW CHART AND THE PROCESS. I LOVE THE THOUGHT THAT'S GOT CLEARLY GONE INTO IT WITH WHAT GETS EXEMPTED. UM IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF SAFEGUARDS KIND OF BUILT INTO THIS THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO . AND, UH I LIKE IT VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND THE THOUGHT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD CUSTOMER, WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. UM UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ON YOUR DISH ARTISTS SELECTION PANEL. UM. USE. IS THIS? WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT SELECTION PROCESS BRIEFLY AGAIN FOR ME? SURE SO, UM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE OF PROCESS WITH THEIR ARTISTS SELECTION CITY OF ALLEN CITY OF DALLAS, THERE'S A CALL FOR APPLICATIONS SO WE WOULD BUILD A POOL OF VOLUNTEERS. AND THEY WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF RELATION EITHER BE AN ARTIST, DESIGNER AND ARCHITECT. THEY WOULD HAVE SOME , UH, TYPE OF CONNECTION TO ACCEPT QUALIFICATION TO BE ON THIS TYPE OF A PANEL THAT COULD BE A RESIDENT. OR THEY COULD BE SOMEONE THAT HAS A BUSINESS IN GARLAND. SO THEY WOULD SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS. WE WOULD KEEP THEIR APPLICATIONS ON FILE. FOR FIVE YEARS, AND IT WOULD BE AN OPEN CALL. THERE WOULD BE NO DEADLINE JUST CONTINUING TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS. ONCE WE HAVE THIS POOL THE DEPARTMENT SPONSOR. WOULD HELP PULL. THE APPROPRIATE FOLKS TO SERVE ON THE PANEL. UM SO THIS WOULD GO. THIS IS THE BEST SLIDE FOR THAT . SO YOU'VE GOT THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL OR THE ARTIST SELECTION POOL, AND THEN YOU HAVE A FEW STAFF MEMBERS. YOU HAVE A FEW OF THESE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS. YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE AT LEAST ONE ARTS COMMISSIONER, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A STAKEHOLDERS. SO ONCE YOU HAVE THIS TEAM ASSEMBLED TOGETHER.

THEY WOULD HELP REVIEW ARTISTS APPLICATIONS THEY WOULD HELP KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING ALONG.

OKAY SO WOULD YOU. WOULD YOU HAVE A WOULD THAT BE A CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS? YES, SIR. AND YOU WOULD HAVE IN THAT IN THAT CALL REQUEST. IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA WOULD SAY AN EXAMPLE IF IT'S ONE OF ONE OF ANTI, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE TO SERVE ON THAT AS A

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I MEAN, JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT BASED ARTIST SELECTION PANEL. RIGHT RIGHT. RIGHT RIGHT.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT SAY WHO LIVES IN GARLAND BUT BUT HAS THOSE TALENTS AND SKILLS TO THAT THAT ARE NEEDED TO EVALUATE THE APPLICATIONS. GREAT. UM THEN THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THIS. IS A NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN MIND OR NO, I THINK WE WOULD WANT THE POOL TO BE AS ROBUST AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN , WE'RE LOOKING FOR WE'RE HOPING FOR A WIDE RANGE OF REALLY COOL PROJECTS. AND SO I THINK IF WE HAVE THE YOU KNOW THE MOST ROBUST PANEL POOL WE COULD HAVE THAT WOULD HELP PROVIDE THE BEST PANEL. OKAY AND GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE MEDIUM YOU WOULD USE TO SOLICIT THIS POOL OF VOLUNTEERS. FACEBOOK WOULD OBVIOUSLY GO OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD DEFINITELY ACTIVATE OUR ARTS COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU HELP US? IDENTIFY SOME FOLKS, YOU KNOW THE ARTIST COMMUNITY, THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE PRETTY AMAZING. THEY CAN KIND OF SPREAD THE WORD AMONGST THEMSELVES AS WELL, TOO. SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE AGAINST SO MANY CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD REALLY TRY TO CAST THE NET AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE. BEYOND BEYOND OUR THAT PUSH WOULD BE BEYOND BEYOND CAME TUCK BEYOND OUR CITY LIMITS. LET'S SAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WHAT WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE. I'M I GUESS I'M GETTING IT THE WORD PARTNERSHIPS LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT SOME SIMILAR AND MOST OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES AUDIENCES. UM LIKE WE HAVE THE T B A L OVER IN DALLAS. ABSOLUTELY AND WHO WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE FOR? SO WOULD WE WOULD WE PARTNERED WITH AGNES USING THEM AS AN EXAMPLE? WHAT WOULD WOULD THEY BE, UH AH! AN AGENT FOR REACHING OUT AND GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THEM. ON ON ON THIS PLANE THAT YOU'VE GOT HERE. ABSOLUTELY FOR SURE. I WAS GOING TO ADD IF THAT IF COUNSEL IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NOTION, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A LOT OF GREAT INCREDIBLE RESOURCES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S A COMFORT LEVEL. COULD WE MAKE USE OF THEM? ABSOLUTELY. WE COULD UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF LIVING HERE AND HAVING A BUSINESS HERE IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN TUNE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN GARLAND.

WHAT'S THE VIBE THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY WANT TO PROMOTE OR GO FOR, BUT I THINK THAT THAT TYPE OF ASSOCIATION THERE'S MANY COULD ABSOLUTELY BE INCORPORATED IN SOMEHOW, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE. ENTITY DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD WORK BEST, JUST SORT OF A GENTLEMAN TO AGREEMENT OR PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK AT DOING SOME KIND OF UM, WRITTEN YEAH. PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH WITH SOME OF THOSE ENTITIES THAT WE KNOW THAT HAVE THE HISTORY THE TRACK RECORD. THAT COULD ASSIST US IN AND DOING WHAT WE DID. DO YOU THINK THAT SORT OF A WHERE THE MOUTH THE GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT, OR PERHAPS SOMETHING , SOMETHING MORE FORMAL. IF YOU WILL. UM AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO

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UM AND THEN ONCE THEY DO THEIR VALUATION OF THOSE CALLS FOR PROJECTS AND THEY DISBAND GO BACK TO THE POOL. YOU MAY ALSO HAVE A CASE WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME FOLKS IN THAT POOL THAT ARE ARTISTS THEMSELVES THAT MAY WISH TO, UM PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAT FOR A CALL FOR PROJECTS, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE AS AN EVALUATOR. BUT THAT JUST KIND OF SHORTENS THE CYCLE FOR GETTING FOLKS TO THE TABLE. I'M LIKING WHAT I'M HEARING AND IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS NOW WHERE WE TRULY DO NEED TO, UH USE THE USER SYSTEM, SEE HOW IT WORKS, AND THEN RE EVALUATE FROM THERE.

I THINK WE JUST NEED SOME TIME AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. VERY GOOD. BECAUSE THEIR LUCK HI. UM SO I AGREE THAT PROMOTING AND WANTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ARTISTS, TOO. BE THE POOL FOR THESE PROJECTS IS WONDERFUL THING. HOWEVER I DON'T I DON'T REALLY WANT TO LIMIT US TO THAT, UM IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST A FAMOUS ARTIST, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY WELL, YOU'RE NOT LOCAL, SO WE CAN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, OPEN THIS UP TO YOU. SO I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT ONLY LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ARTISTS ARE ARE PART OF THAT POOL, THOUGH I LIKE IT. I THINK IT SHOULD BRING THEM TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, BUT I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE OTHER ARTISTS BECAUSE ARE IN ITSELF IS ALL INCLUSIVE AND PART OF EVERYONE AND HUMANITY. SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ANYBODY THAT MIGHT GIVE US SOMETHING WONDERFUL. UM THAT'S ONE THING I DO WANNA OH, YEAH. NO, AND I THINK WE SHARE THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL TOO. SO, SO I THINK INITIALLY IN THE CULTURAL ARTS PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A ROSTER OF ARTISTS , WHICH WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO DO AND GO TO THAT ROSTER THAT REGISTRY FOR THE PROJECTS. I THINK WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS KIND OF GO A LITTLE BIT BEYOND

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HMM. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING ITEM THAT MOVES US TO ITEM. FIVE ANNOUNCED

[5. Announce Future Agenda Items]

YES ITEM NUMBER THREE. UM, I LIKE TO REFER AN ITEM TO COMMUNITY SERVICES TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO OUR AIR CONDITIONING REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI FAMILY PROPERTIES. COUNCILOR WILLIAMS WILL BE THE SECOND ON THAT. YES AND THE FOURTH LAST BUT NOT LEAST I WOULD LIKE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE TO REVIEW RULES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT WAS A LOT AND I HAVE GIVEN THAT TO STAFF AND WRITING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO KEEP UP AND CAST MEMBER HEDRICK WILL BE THE SECOND ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT. EXPORT. BECAUSE ER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARY. I WANT TO GET ONE. YEAH RIGHT. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION UPDATE UH, ON CLASSROOM OR ACADEMIC, ACADEMIC AND OTHER ACTIVITIES AT THE RICHMOND COLLEGE GARLAND CAMPUS. OKAY AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM SMITH. SECOND ON THAT. YES, UM. I'M GUESSING THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. BY THE TIME WE CAN GET THAT SCHEDULED SEMESTERS, WILLIAN IN A WEEK AND HAVE TWO WEEKS AND THEY GO SO JANUARY WHEN THEY WOULD RETURN TO SCHOOL. VERY GOOD. THE SCHOOLS. THEY GOT TWO WEEKS TO GO, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT BACK UNTIL JANUARY. SO MAYOR JANUARY IS FINE. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. MAYOR PRO TIM MORRIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'D LIKE

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[6. Council will move into Executive Session]