Dec 12, 2022 Plan Commission

[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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WELL, I GUESS I WILL SAY WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 12TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THIS PORTION IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION WHERE COMMITTEE MEMBERS GET BRIEFED. AND AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THAT WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK FOR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. GOOD EVENING EVENING. LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS. I SEE NO QUESTIONS. FIRST ZONING ITEM IS THE 22 17, THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL OF A GUESTHOUSE. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.22 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT. AND HERE IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. YOU GUYS SEEN THE PRESENTATION THERE? OKAY, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE PRESENTATION ANYWHERE. HMM. AND GOT A BLUE SCREEN. WE GOT IT NOW WE'RE GOOD. OKAY THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY ARE SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED USES. ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE MAIN HOUSE FROM BARKALOW DRIVE. TOP RIGHT IS VIEW OF THE GUESTHOUSE. BOTTOM LEFT IS YOU HAVE THE GUESTHOUSE FROM BRIAR WOOD DRIVE. AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE EXISTING THIS IS THE MAIN HOUSE AND THIS IS THE GUESTHOUSE, WHICH IS EXISTING. THE MAIN HOUSE IS 41,400 SQUARE FEET AND THE GUESTHOUSE THAT'S EXISTING IS, UM 543. THE REPORT DOES SHOW IT TO BE 4 98. BUT THERE IS A MECHANICAL ROOM, WHICH ADDS UP TO 543 SQUARE FEET AND THE G D. C ALLOWS, UM, THE MAXIMUM OF THE GUESTHOUSE TO BE 30,000 SORRY. NOT MORE THAN 30% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE, AND THAT CALCULATES TO 421 SQUARE FEET, SO THIS GUESTHOUSE DOES EXCEED THAT 30% AND THEREFORE THE APPLICANT REQUEST A DEVIATION TO ALLOW, UM, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY HAVE UM, THE SITE PLAN, UM, DOES MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND ALSO AND THEN REPORT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL DEVIATION ON THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT. UM HOWEVER, AFTER FURTHER REVIEW, UH THE REQUIRED SETBACK FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE STREET IS THREE FT. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SHOWING IT TO BE FOUR FT, SO THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE G D. C STANDARD. AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS JUST COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE SCP FOR AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD. THE S C P. TIME PERIOD GUIDE RECOMMENDS BETWEEN FIVE YEARS TO UNLIMITED. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. SEVEN USE APPROVAL OF THE SCP FOR A GUESTHOUSE AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR GUESTHOUSE AND A PROPERTIES AND SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT. AND WE MAILED OUT 77 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED ONE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST TO WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. UM AND ONE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF FOUR RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. NOPE. THERE'S NO BUTTON FOR Q.

OKAY COMMISSIONER DALTON? YEAH WE MAY HAVE TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY YOU HAVE THE WORK SESSION? SOMETIMES IT'LL JENNIFER, SO SPEAK UP WHEN YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU, UM

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THANK YOU. OH ONE LAST THING AND THE LAST LEGAL TO COME IN ON THIS SINCE THIS IS A P D. IT OPENS UP EVERYTHING INVOLVING THE SITE. SHOULD WE TAKE ACTION, A REMEDY ANY POTENTIAL OTHER ISSUES LIKE UM HMM. THE CUMULATIVE AMOUNT OF ACCESSORY BUILDINGS BEING OVER 600 FT.

SHOULD WE WORK IN A DEVIATION FOR THAT, SO THERE'S HOPEFULLY NO ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD. THEY CAN WORK WITH WITH THE PD IN BETWEEN Y'ALL AND CITY COUNCIL JUST BRING UP THE ISSUE, AND THEN YOU'LL WORK IT OUT WITH RIGHT NOW. THE P D AND SHE BEING WITH THEM ALREADY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSE. MY CONCERN WOULD BE AND IT MAY GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SIR.

PARKING. MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE IN THAT HOUSE RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM . BUT YOU KNOW IF THEY TURN AROUND AND TWO YEARS AND RENTED OUT THE COLLEGE KIDS OR WHATEVER, AND THEREFORE FIVE CARS THERE. YOU'RE GONNA BE SUFFICIENT PARKING TO DEAL WITH.

I MEAN, MY NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IT'S CRAZY WITH PARKING IT'S ANNOYING GUESTHOUSE DEFINITION DOES STATE THAT IT CANNOT BE RENTED OUT, AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THAT, SO IT'S ONLY FOR FAMILY RIGHT NOW. WHO SAY YES CANNOT BE RENTED OUT. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. WHERE ARE YOU, COMMISSIONER? OH, OKAY. OKAY LET'S TRY. LET'S TRY REQUEST TO SPEAK. THERE WE GO.

COMMISSIONER HARRISON AND COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER ABANDON COMMISSIONER PAIRS OKAY.

THAT WAS MY BAD THANK YOU. UM. HOW WOULD THAT BE ENFORCED WITH RESPECT TO IT'S ONLY FAMILY. DO WE KNOW UM I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THROUGH CODE. IF UM, I MEAN, IT'S A MEAN HOW DO WE I GUESS THAT'S IT. I MEAN, DO WE? WE DON'T DO. WE EVEN HAVE A DEFINITION FOR FAMILY. HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMEONE PROVE THAT I MEAN IT. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES WELL, IT'S MY EIGHTH COUSIN. AND SO YEAH, TWICE REMOVED. SO, YEAH, IT'S FAMILY. I MEAN, I'M PAYING RENT ON IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, MR CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. GREAT QUESTION TO CLARIFY IT ACTUALLY, DOESN'T SAY FAMILY JUST SIMPLY SAYS IT CANNOT BE RENTED. SO USUALLY IN MOST OF THESE CASES, IT'S A MOTHER IN LAW. IT IS FAMILY, SO WE JUST SOMETIMES SAY THAT BUT ARE COMMONLY SAY FAMILY , BUT IT JUST SAYS CANNOT BE RENTED. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. WHETHER THEY'RE PROFITING FOR OR NOT. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHO SPECIFICALLY IS LIVING THERE, WHETHER IT'S A FRIEND, FAMILY OR GUEST, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT RENTED OUT. DO WE KNOW HOW THIS PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED? WAS IT THROUGH CODE WAS IT THROUGH A COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR? AND

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OKAY, RIGHT. SO IT'S KIND OF. HOUSE LAUNDERING, SO TO SPEAK. I MEAN, SOMEBODY BUILDS IT WITHOUT PERMISSION AND THEN SELLS IT TO SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW AND IT'S LIKE WHAT HAS THIS GUESTHOUSE ON HERE? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT TELLS US THAT SHE BOUGHT IT, KNOWING THAT IT WAS A GUESTHOUSE, KNOWING IT HAD A GUESTHOUSE BUT NOT REALIZING THAT IT WAS NOT PERMITTED, OKAY? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. PARIS ANAND. COMMISSIONER ROSE LET ME I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAD IN, UM I KNOW, COMMISSIONER ROSE HAD ALREADY SPOKE TO IT. IT WAS ONE OF MY LISTED ITEMS AROUND PARKING AND THE RATIO FOR PARKING AS IT RELATES TO THE LAND USES IT ANY CONCERNS, I THINK WITH THE GUESTHOUSE BEING ADDED, THEN THAT ADDS ADDITIONAL, AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. UH, THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE LOT. I THOUGHT I SAW MULTIPLE AND SO JUST WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING RATIO AND CONCERNS THERE. WATCH OUT THERE. YEAH SO THE G D C REQUIRES TWO FOR THE MAIN HOUSE ENCLOSED AND THEN ONE FOR THE GUESTHOUSE, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A CARPORT HERE SO THAT AND THEN THEY HAVE IT AND CLOSED GARAGE AS WELL. AND THEY ALSO PARK BELIEVE IN THE DRIVEWAY, SO THEY DO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACE. OKAY, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSE. I'M STILL CONCERNED. UH THIS CANNOT BE RENTED. SO THEY LET SOMEBODY LIVE IN THIS HOUSE, AND THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE CARS. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE KIDS OR WHATEVER. JUST BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE RENTED NOT GOING TO STOP IT FROM ABUSING THE PARKING COULD.

HEARD. COMMISSIONER. DO YOU KNOW IF THIS HOUSE THIS GUESTHOUSE HAS SEPARATE UTILITIES, OR DOES IT SHARE IT WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE LEAVE SHARES WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. THIS WILL BE A FUN ONE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

OKAY GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. UM SO THIS IS, UM CASE 22 61. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR LIGHT COMMERCIAL USE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HOLFORD AND ARAPAHOE. IT'S A 5.611 ACRE SITE, AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL THIS IS WHERE IT IS IN THE CITY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION. YOU CAN SEE IT. BORDERS UM RESIDENTIAL, UM AND AGRICULTURAL AND A COUPLE OTHER PDS THAT ARE AT THE MOMENT VACANT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THAT THIS AREA WOULD BE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. UM DO YOU LIKE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS

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THESE ARE THE PHOTOS FROM THE SITE YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EAST SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL. THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN ALONG HOLFORD ROAD. AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THE SOUTH YOU CAN SEE IS ARAPAHOE ROAD. THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE LOCATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE BASED ESTABLISHMENTS. UM IT'S UH, PLACED BY CONVENIENT ACCESS TO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. IT'S A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION FOR THE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE FOUND IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. YOU'LL FIND THINGS LIKE CONTRACTOR SHOPS, WHOLESALE PRODUCT SALES, AND, UH, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES AND SO ON. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM WITH CERTAIN LAND USES PROHIBITED THESE WOULD BE AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MAJOR. UM AUTOMOBILE SALES, NEW OR USED BOAT SALES. PERSONAL WATERCRAFT SALES, RECREATIONAL VEHICLE SALES MEETING GAME PROCESSING LAUNDRY PLANT COMMERCIAL TAXIDERMIST AND ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL ESTABLISHMENT. THE APPLICATION ARE THE APPLICANTS. JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST IS THAT DEMAND IS HIGH FOR OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE SPACE, WHILE RETAIL IS STRUGGLING NATIONWIDE.

STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LIKE COMMERCIAL USE. UM AT THIS LOCATION. UM WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. OR A P D WITH COMMUNITY RETAIL AND SIMILAR, UM, PRO PROHIBITIONS ON THINGS LIKE AUTOMOBILE USE, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE APPLICANTS REQUEST FOR LIGHT, COMMERCIAL BASED OWNING STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT ADDITIONAL USES BE PROHIBITED, INCLUDING CAR WASHES AND WILL BE REPAIR. UM AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING. ANY QUESTIONS? WHERE THERE ANY LETTERS SENT OUT IN ANY RESPONSE. YES SIR. UM, WE SENT OUT 100 RESPONSES AND RECEIVED 2 100 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES, ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR AND ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER ROSE. UM MATTHEW, CORRECT YOUR FIRST CASE BEFORE US. YES SIR.

WELL, WELCOME TO THE WELCOME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. ALL RIGHT. QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU IS IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING FOR A MOTHER WANTED TO A P D ON THIS PROJECT . UM WHY DID THEY NOT JUST TWO STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE? UM, WE, UH, INFORMED THEM THAT STAFF WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ALL THE USE IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. OKAY SO RATHER THAN STRIKING THINGS FROM JUST THE STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE, THE PD MADE IT CLEANER. YES SIR.

AND WE HAVE. THESE ARE THE USES THAT THEY OFFERED TO RESTRICT. OKAY? AND UM, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY ABOUT THE CAR WASH NOT ONLY TO HAVE YET ANOTHER CAR WASH. THEY SEEM TO BE WORKING BLOCK BY BLOCK ALL THE WAY DOWN . UM AS FAR AS, UH YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT BEHIND IT. AND YOU HAVE P D 21-1 THAT'S ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S SOME FORM OF THAT'S RESIDENTIAL CORRECT.

21. OH, ONE. AH! IT'S A SENIOR LIVING IN YOUR LIVING, OKAY? RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. UM I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE BACK TO THAT LIST. THERE YOU GO. SO THE APPLICANT HAS REVIEWED THIS LIST AND HAS AGREED NOT TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. YES, SIR. THIS IS THE LIST THAT THE APPLICANT UM GAVE TO US. UM YEAH, ALL THE STAFF. SUPPORTS THE REJECTING ALL THESE, UM WELL, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE, UM WOULD REJECT MORE OF THESE WITH LIKE COMMERCIAL OR SIMPLY DO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES INSTEAD, OR COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WOULDN'T ALLOW THIS STUFF? YES SIR. WE UM WOULD DEFINITELY NOT ALLOW THESE ARE WE WOULD, UM RECOMMENDED NOT ALLOW THESE, BUT ALSO MORE IF IT WERE LIKE COMMERCIAL AND YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE APPLICANT. AH, YES, SIR. AND THEY'RE NOT OBJECTING TO ANY OF THIS. THE CURRENT LIST RIGHT HERE GOING TO ONE. THAT'S EVEN MORE UM, WE, UM THEY DID NOT WANT A MORE RESTRICTIVE LESS THAN THIS. THIS IS ALL THERE AGREE. THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT AGREED TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M READY. THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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I'M NOT SURE WHY NOT MOVING. HERE IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL MAINLY, UM, COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THERE'S A SHOPPING CENTER. AND THIS CURRENT PD WAS INITIALLY APPROVED FOR A COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THROUGH WHICH WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED. AND NOW THE AFRICAN PROPOSES THIS SELDOM GO. SORRY. TECHNICAL ISSUES. AND HERE'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. AND HE PROPOSED SALAD AND GO DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDED USES FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS.

HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AND THIS IS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. UM AND IT ALSO HAS A MOBILE PICKUP WINDOW ON THIS SIDE, AND THIS IS THE TRADITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH. AS IS A 0.78 ACRE AND THE UM APPLICANT WILL REPORT THE PROPERTY SO IT WILL BE A SEPARATE LOT. AND THE EXCESS WILL BE FROM THE EXISTING NORTH GARLAND. UM AND THEN THERE'S THEIR MUTUAL ACCESS PROPERTY CAN BE ACCESSED. AND THE SITE DOES MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR THE G. D. C. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE G. D.

C. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THE SCP FOR 25 YEARS . UM THE S C P TIME PERIOD. I RECOMMENDS A RANGE OF 20 TO 25 YEARS. NO DEVIATIONS ARE REQUESTED WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PD 21 34 APPROVAL OF THE SCP FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH USE AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN ON A PROPERTY ZONE. PD 21 34 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND WE MELT OUT 22 LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? THE COMMISSIONER RIGHT? QUESTION THIS IS 100% DRIVE THROUGH CORRECT THIS IS YES, THERE'S NO DINING OPTION. RIGHT? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. ■THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU GET TO TONIGHT, HUH? YES, SIR. UM SO FOR HIS HE 20 TO 64, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SPECIFIC

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THESE ARE THE PHOTOS FROM THE SUBJECT SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, UM TO THE NORTH AND EAST. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THEN TO THE SOUTH. THERE IS RESIDENTIAL, UM , IN THE DISTANCE, AND THEN TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. THERE'S COMMUNITY RETAIL. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN CURRENTLY SHOWS THE MURPHY GAS STATION TO THE NORTH AND THEN THE VACANT AREA AROUND IT. THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO OR THREE ACCESS POINTS. UM, ONE FROM ARAPAHOE AND TECHNICALLY TWO AND SHILOH, BUT ONE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE DUTCH BROS, UM AND THAT IS A MUTUAL ACCESS. HE'S MET WITH THEM IN THE GAS STATION TO THE NORTH. UM THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN COMPLIES WITH ALL THE G D C STANDARDS, AS DOES THE SITE PLAN. AND FINALLY, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. UM THERE'S ALSO 100% COMPLIES WITH THE G. D. C. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A 25 YEAR SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE S C P TIME PERIOD GUIDE. AH STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH USE AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2035 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE USES. WE RECEIVED RE MAILED OUT 36 LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE AND IT WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND FOUR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROSE. AGAIN. THIS IS FOR DRIVE THRU USE ONLY. WHAT YES, SIR, AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER ONE OTHER APPLICANT. WHAT'S TO PREVENT THEM FROM PUTTING A TABLE IN AND HAVING PEOPLE SIT DOWN AND HAVE THEIR COFFEE OR HAVE A DONUT AND COFFEE OR WHATEVER. UM I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO PROBABLY CHANGE THAT AND GET A PERMIT FOR SEATING INSIDE. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ROOM PROCEEDING. IT WAS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE ROOM FOR IT? YEAH. YEAH, I HOPE I WOULD THINK THAT, YEAH.

THEY'VE GOT A PATIO OUT FRONT WITH A COUPLE TABLES WHERE THEY CAN SIT. SO IF THEY WANTED SEATING INSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND THEY WOULD GO TO BUILDING INSPECTION THAT WOULD TRIGGER COMING BACK TO US AGAIN. WHICH EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. HMM. EVEN STAFF. THEY'RE SO HAPPY. YES, SIR. AS YOU KNOW OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY WELL, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM READ A LITTLE INFORMAL HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON LIVE TELEVISION. WE'RE BEING TAPED BECAUSE OF CITY COUNCILS. SO I'LL START OUT WITH WELCOME

[Call to Order]

NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT. TONIGHT'S APPARENT PLEDGE TO BE LED BY COMMISSIONER PAUL YOU CARE TO JOIN ME? MOST GRACIOUS AND LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER. WE COME BEFORE YOU NOW. BENDED KNEE ASKING YOU FOR YOUR BLUSHING. YOUR DIRECTION IN OUR LIVES. WE ASK YOU TO OVERSEE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR HEALTH. WE THANK YOU FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY THAT WE LIVE IN. WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY WE

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WE ASK YOU TO OVERSEE THE THOSE THAT. RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY IN THE MILITARY. AND THE POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND ALL THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS. THIS WHOLE WILLINGLY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE. FATHER WATCH OVER US! GODDESS ANNETTE. WE ACTUALLY THINGS IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME.

AMEN. I PLAYED ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS NATION UNDER GOD , INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL GOOD EVENING AGAIN AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. ALRIGHTY. UM. WE'RE USING OUR LITTLE YELLOW SPEAKER CARD SYSTEM INSTEAD OF THE KIOSKS OUT THERE JUST WORKS BETTER. SOMETIMES PAPER JUST WORKS BETTER. AND SO IF YOU COME UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. REAL OUR APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT A CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS. WE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR STUFF WE DO ALLOW MORE OF AN L B DEBATE BACK AND FORTH, WHICH IT'S TIME UNLIMITED. ALRIGHTY. WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ALRIGHT UM, TO A AMENDMENT TO PLAN COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. I SEE NO OBJECTIONS. LET'S JOURNAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE HEDGE FRUIT SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, SECOND BY COMMISSION RULES, WAS IT. ALRIGHTY TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. HMM IN MY SCREEN ISN'T SHOWING THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE OR ANYTHING. I STILL HAVE A PRESENTATION UP IN MY SCREEN HERE. THERE WE GO. I SEE IT UNDER THAT, UH, THAT PASSES 61 BEFORE AND ABSTENTION. I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HERE FOR THE MEETING, OKAY? WE ARE ONTO OUR ZONING, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS A

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THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GOING TO DISCUSSION. SECONDN SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO GO INTO DISCUSSION. DID YOU CARE TO START FIRST COMMISSION? I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION. UM, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE HAVE TO VOTE FIRST ON LET'S VOTE ON THAT. THANK YOU AHEAD OF MYSELF. MOTION CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING

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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALREADY WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW AND YOU HAVE THE MIXER. UH, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. JUST BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM STAFF IN REVIEWING THE FILE ALSO, WE CAN GET SOME OTHER THINGS I UM. I'M OPPOSED TO APPROVING THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THAT THE APPLICANT AS CLAIMED. THAT. THAT SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN THIS CONDITION AND BELIEVED IT WAS PROPERLY PERMITTED. BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY BAD PRECEDENT TO ALLOW FOLKS TO BUILD THESE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND THEN COME BACK. LATER. OKAY INTERRUPT. WE MAY HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. DO WE NEED TO MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC CHANNEL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, WELL, I HAVEN'T I CAN'T. I MAKE IT. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS IN THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO AHEAD. WEI WAS LOST IN THE OTHER. JUST SECOND. WE GOT TO GET MY EX STRAIGHT HERE TONIGHT. I'M ANTICIPATING WHERE THE VOTE GOES SO. YES. OKAY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALREADY AND IF I COULD GET YOU TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YES. HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS CLAUDIA RODRIGUEZ. AND THEY COME INTO, UM, BE IN FAVOR THE 21 12 BROOK HOLLOW DRIVE FOR THE GUESTHOUSE. I REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR MY GUEST HOUSE BECAUSE WHEN I BUY THIS PROPERTY IT WAS ALREADY BUILT ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW? SO EVERYTHING IS OVER. THERE WAS ALREADY YOU KNOW, SO THANKS, GOD, YOU KNOW, I WAS LUCKY BY THE PROPERTY LIKE THAT. BUT NOW, UM I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I NEED A PERMIT FOR THAT.

SO IT'S WHAT I REQUESTING NOW. YOU KNOW? SO IT'S YOU GUYS YOU KNOW, GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO KEEP IN MY HOUSE LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT. IS YOUR ADDRESS 21 12 BROOKE? YES, IT IS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS COMMISSION ADULT WELL. COMMISSIONER DALTON, THEN COMMISSIONER ART THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. HOW LONG AGO DID YOU BUY THE HOUSE? 2016 2016 YES. WHAT PROMPTED THE NEED. TO REQUEST THIS CHANGE. WELL I SAID WHEN I BUY THIS HOUSE, RIGHT? THIS IS MY FIRST HOUSE. ACTUALLY ME, YOU KNOW, I GET HIM MYSELF. UM I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE A ALL THESE PERMITS. AND WHEN I BUY THE HOUSE, THE OWNER WAS LIVING IN CALIFORNIA. SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT STUFF? YOU KNOW, UH I NEED TO BE FIXED OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS WHEN I GET THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THERE, UM WAS LIVING 10 YEARS OVER THERE AND THE LAST YEAR THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY, SO IT WAS A LOT OF ISSUES TO GET THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I BOUGHT IT, SO OBVIOUSLY NO. I SEE PART OF THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW , BUT I NEVER NOBODY TOLD ME AGENT PAYMENT FOR THIS OR IS DOING DON'T HAVE IT. YOU NEED TO GET IT, YOU KNOW? UM SO I BOUGHT IT. BUT THE PROBLEM WAS, UM, I HAVE A PORTION THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. I WAS MAKING ABORTION AND THIS GENTLEMAN PASSED BY. AND HE TOLD ME I SEE LIKE YOU HAVEN'T LIKE GUESTHOUSE IN THE BACK, RIGHT? AND YOU SAY YOU HAVE A PERMIT THAT SAY? I DON'T KNOW. I NEED A PERMIT BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT LIKE THAT. RIGHT? YOU SAY WELL, WHEN YOU BUY THAT YOU NEED TO ASK SOMEBODY ELSE, SAID NOBODY TOLD ME NOTHING. SO HE GAVE ME THE FAVOR, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE ME THE AH, KIND OF LIKE.

LITTLE BIT HARD BANG, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL THESE AND I HAVEN'T BOUGHT A YEAR COLLECTING A LOT OF PAPERWORK. BIG TOURS AND STUFF LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT AFTER ALMOST A YEAR AND UNDERSTAND THAT HERE TRYING TO GET APPROVAL FOR THE GUESTHOUSE BUT THE HEART THAT GUESTHOUSE KNOWN FOR RENT IS NO FOR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW? IS IT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY? WHEN YOU BOUGHT

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THEY DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, YOU KNOW? AND I SPEAK LIVE ENGLISH. BUT THE LADY JUST TALKING MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN MY TIME. OKAY YES. THANK YOU. DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. ART THEN, COMMISSIONER ROSE, OKAY? THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN. QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT UTILITIES. UM DO YOU PAY ONE ELECTRICITY BILL, OR DOES THIS HAVE A SEPARATE ELECTRIC METER ON IT? NO. THE ELECTRICITY RUN TOGETHER WITH THE ONE IN THE HOUSE. OKAY SO I THINK IT'S CHARGED TO BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTED RIGHT? AND THE WATER IS IN THE AND EVERYTHING OKAY? OKAY AND HOW LONG? HOW OLD DO YOU THINK THIS BUILDING IS? DO YOU KNOW? WELL. SO IT WAS ALREADY THERE WHEN I BUY THE HOUSE, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE LIKE I DON'T KNOW. WAS ALREADY THE BUILDING WAS ALREADY DEAD, RIGHT, YOU KNOW? BUT. WHAT THE GUY MAKE IT LIKE THIS. I DON'T HAVE IDEA. YOU KNOW? MY ONLY THING I DO IS CLEAN IT, YOU KNOW AND PAINTED HOUSE OUTSIDE INSIDE , YOU KNOW, AND MAKE IT LOOK THIS AND BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY, REALLY DIRTY. YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE WAS LIVING THERE. KNOW WHAT? THEIR HOUSE SO THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSE. OKAY AND YOUR YOUR DAUGHTER IS STILL LIVING IN THIS HOUSE, OKAY? IT HAS ITS OWN SEPARATE PARKING SPOT I SAW ON THE SIDE, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE NOW COMMISSIONER ROBBINS. MY CONCERN IS PARKING AS STATED EARLIER. YOUR DAUGHTER'S THERE. SHE

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I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. OR ANY THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT THE ARE THERE ANY OTHER ASPECTS ARE WITH THE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD. YOU NEED TO GET PERMITS FOR HMM . NO I DON'T THINK I NEED A PERMANENT HAVE A LOT OF PERMITS ALREADY IN THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW THE CAR ONE WAS THE CARPORT BUILT. YOU KNOW THAT ONE WAS BUILT LAST YEAR. YOU GUYS GET A PERMIT FOR THE CARPORT? I HAVE APPROVAL TO. OKAY, UM. AND THEN FOR THE I. IT SAYS HERE THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING AND I WENT, I LOOKED AT THE SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT THAT SHOW UP A VEHICLE PARKED ACROSS THE SIDEWALK. UM ON PRIOR WOULD BUT THEN ON, UM ON BROOK HOLLOW. HEE PARKING SPACE. BUT YOU ALL HAVE PUT DOWN SOME PAVERS TO CREATE A SECOND PARKING SPACES THAT WRITE PAPERS, THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY IS A ONE CAR DRIVEWAY, BUT YOU'VE EXPANDED IT TO BE TWO CARS. I NEVER DO THAT . I NEVER DO THAT. I JUST CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GUESTHOUSE RIGHT? THE MAIN STRUCTURE. ADMINISTRATION NO, THIS IS WHAT'S ALREADY LIKE THAT, TOO, WAS A LOT OF THINGS DONE ALREADY IN THIS HOUSE BECAUSE THE GUY WAS LIVING THERE. HE WAS REMODELING GUY. SO HE DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW? OKAY I KNOW YOU GUYS GENERAL OUT TO MAINTAIN YOU PEOPLE NEED TO ASK FOR PERMISSION. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MY FAULT. IT IS HOUSE WAS ALREADY WHETHER PASSED OVER HERE . PASS OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, I WANT THE ONLY THING I DO IS, UH MAKE IT NICE AND CLEAN BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY DIRTY. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS TELLING ME CRAZY, BUT IN THE HOUSE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. I DON'T WANT QUALIFIED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW ANOTHER SINGLE MOTHER, SO I GET WHAT I GET, AND I GET A BUNCH OF PROBLEMS BUT TRYING TO FIX ONE BY ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE? UM. EVERYONE'S WHILE I HAVE TO STEP BACK AND THINK. OKAY, WE'RE UP HERE. WE DEAL WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND WEEK OUT. BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THE PUBLIC THEY DON'T KNOW GUESTHOUSE OWNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO IT WOULD NEVER DAWN ON THEM AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T DAWN AND MOST OF THE INSPECTORS EITHER.

THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURES. SO THERE IS NOTHING TO TRIGGER. UH WELL, WHAT IS THIS KIND OF THING AND EVEN THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES? AS LONG AS EVERYTHING APPEARS TO BE LEGAL, THEY DON'T GO BACK AND CHECK BUILDING PERMITS AND ALL THE STRUCTURES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOW MAYBE THERE'S A YOU KNOW SOMETHING WITH THE TITLE COMPANY, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE. SO I'M GONNA START WITH IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE. WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE. AND I THINK IT CAN BE WORKED OUT. THERE'S SOME OTHER BUILDINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE CLEARED OUT TO ALLOW THIS ONE. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD. I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 5 TO 10 YEARS TO SEE HOW MAYBE IT WORKS. BUT UM IT'S BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M GUESSING FOR 15 TO 20 YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF WE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH, SO IT'S MY TWO CENTS. ALREADY, UM COMMISSIONER.

ODD HMM. MR CHAIRMAN, SINCE WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON IT, UM I TO LEAN MORE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING IT TO REMAIN PARTLY BECAUSE IT HAS IT SHARES ALL OF ITS UTILITIES. WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE. THERE'S NO EASY WAY TO RENT THIS PROPERTY OUT WITH UNLESS YOU'RE IT'S JUST A FLAT FEE. I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY BE LOOKING TO RENT IT OUT. SO IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. I THINK IT WOULD BE PUTTING AN UNDUE HARDSHIP ON THE HOMEOWNER AND I WOULD I

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YEAH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK IN DISCUSSION AGAIN. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE, UH, SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? OR YOU JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS DISCUSSION WISE, UM, THE S U P RECOMMENDATION WAS 5 TO 10 IS WHAT YOU YOU WERE RECOMMENDING THEY REQUEST AND IT'S PROBABLY JUST KIND OF STATS, STAFF AND APPLICANT WILL MAKE IT INDEFINITE KIND OF THING. OKAY I WOULD LIKE A SHORTER TIME PERSONALLY TO ASSESS THE SITUATION PERIODICALLY, SO THEY WERE SO THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK. RIGHT AT THE END OF THE WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR 10 TO RE ASK FOR PERMIT AGAIN. AND THE INTERNET IS JUST TO BE SURE IT'S UP TO CODE ETCETERA.

THAT'S INTERESTING. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND PART OF MY METHOD TO MY MADNESS IS THAT PROVISION ABOUT ONLY RENT, NOT RENTING RENTING IT. IS NEBULOUS HARD TO ENFORCE HARD TO DETECT. AND IF YOU BRING IT BACK EVERY SO MANY YEARS AND SPREAD THE WORD TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU CAN GET INPUT AND SEE IF THERE ARE ISSUES. WE CAN HAVE TO BE SEATED, RIGHT? OKAY. COMMISSIONER DALTON. IT'S TRUE.

THE. REASONING BEHIND MY QUESTIONS WERE TO SEE IF I COULD FIND A REASON SHE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN NOTHING. GAVE HER A REASON TO BELIEVE THERE WAS A PROBLEM. IF NO SURVEY SAID ANYTHING IF NO INSPECTOR SAID ANYTHING I'M SURE YOU WALKED IN THERE GOING, EVERYTHING'S FINE. SO. THAT'S A MISTAKE YOU DIDN'T MAKE. SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE. BUT IT WOULDN'T YOU UMO THROUGH WITH POSSIBLY A SHORTER TIME WINDOW. TO GET KIND OF AIR OUT THE LAUNDRY, SO TO SPEAK, LET'S GET ALL THIS WORKED OUT. UM THIS COMMISSION HAS APPROVED GUEST HOUSES IN THE PAST. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST ONE AND I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING. THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH THEY REDUCE TIME WINDOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE AS I HAVE FOR A LONG TIME. THE GOOD CASES, MAKE BAD LAW AND SET BAD PRECEDENT. AND THAT. YEAH WHETHER OR NOT AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING STRICTLY ABOUT LAND USE UM, EXCEPT IN VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE. TWO CITIES. THAT COUNCIL AT LEAST HAS POSED THINGS LIKE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T GENERALLY ALLOW THEM WITHIN OUR CODE. UM I UNDERSTAND. THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE FAULT OF THE APPLICANT. UM, BUT I THINK THAT IT CREATES A UM. IT CREATES A BAD PRECEDENT IN THE CITY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE AND TELLING PEOPLE THAT IT'S OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT. BUILD IT OUTSIDE OF CODE. BUILD IT WITHOUT PERMITS. BUILD IT. IN VIOLATION OF SETBACKS BUILDING IN VIOLATION OF THE SIZE. UM I THINK HIS IS NOT A UM. IS NOT A GOOD PRECEDENT FOR US TO SET WITHIN THE CITY. AH! YOU KNOW, THIS IS. YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS JUST THE THAT THIS IS NOT THE YOU KNOW IT MAY BE THE GREATEST OF THE VIOLATIONS BUT THAT THERE ARE OTHERS AS WELL. AND OTHER THINGS WERE DONE. AND I THINK AS AS AS A CITY UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT OUR CODE IS, UNLESS SOMEBODY COMES AND, UM. AND PROVIDES A REASON TO DEVIATE FROM IT BEFORE IT'S BEEN DEVIATED FROM SO I PLAN TO, UH, I PLAN TO OPPOSE THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN, MAN, WERE YOU YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN. YEAH, THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S INW . COMMISSIONER ALBAN, I MAKE A

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UH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION. OR IS THERE? OKAY COMMISSIONER ROSE PASSES. WHAT DOES THE APPLICANT WHAT? WHAT CAN THE APPLICANT DO? THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY IN THE APPLICANT CAN STILL GO TO COUNCIL MAYBE WORK OUT SOME ISSUES BETWEEN IT AND THE OKAY. WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE APPLICATIONS. OKAY, THAT FAILS. 522 OR AND I DO NOT HAVE THE LISTING, SO I CANNOT READ OUT WHO VOTED WHICH WAY SO THERE. THERE WILL BE IN THE MINUTES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE COMMISSIONER ROSE. WE APPROVE.

THE APPLICANTS ALL THREE POINTS. SO THAT SHE CAN GO TO COUNCIL AND CONVINCE THEM THAT INCLUDES SHORTENING THE TIME. OH YEAH, YEAH, I'VE SHORTENED MAXIMUM 10 YEARS. OKAY I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER DALTON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. AND THE DETAILED PLAN AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ADULT AND TO LEAVE FOR 10 YEARS YEARS. YEAH. PASSES FIVE TO DO IT, TOO. AND AGAIN. I DO NOT HAVE A READOUT ON WHO VOTED WHICH WAY SO ALRIGHTY. UMM , AND WE'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF WILL BRIEF YOU ON YOUR

[3C. Consideration of the application of LandDesign, Inc., requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to a Planned Development (PD) District for Light Commercial (LC) Uses. The property is located at the northeast corner of Arapaho Road and Holford Road.]

THE PERIMETER IS HOLFORD ROAD, ARAPAHOE, NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND THEN THE SPRING CREEK FOREST PRESERVE. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DEVELOPMENT SINCE THEN. AH THERE'S TWO MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ON THERE NOW ONE ON ARAPAHOE AND ONE ON NORTH GARLAND AVENUE. THERE'S A SENIOR LIVING THAT'S UNDERWAY ADJACENT TO OUR 5.66 ACRES. UM I WOULD USED TO BE PART OF THAT TEAM ON THAT DEAL. AH THAT'S 35 ACRES, OF WHICH THE BUILDINGS SET ON APPROXIMATELY 12 ACRES. I BELIEVE IT IS. THE REST OF THAT IS, UM, A GREEN BELT OR GREEN SPACE THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE REASON FOR THAT THOSE OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN GARLAND A LONG TIME. REMEMBER THE WHOLE AND THAT WAS WHERE THE HOLE WAS. AND NO ONE WAS EVER GOING TO BUILD ON IT AS WE CALL THAT A PARK AND JUST SHUT THAT DOWN. BUT THIS IS ON THE PERIMETER, ABOUT HALF AND HALF ON ARAPAHOE AND ON HOLFORD. AND WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT USES FOR IT. SOMEONE HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT FOR ME TO DO TOWN HOMES ON THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. UM I TALKED TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER OUT THERE ABOUT DOING SELF STORAGE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO MULTI FAMILY DEALS COMING AND OR ALREADY BUILT NOW, AND THE SENIOR LIVING IS UNDERWAY, SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE PERFECT WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE THERE AND HE SAID, NO. WE JUST APPROVED THREE ALREADY IN GARLAND LATELY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA. LET'S SEE HOW THOSE WORK, SO HE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT LIKE

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WE KNOW NO ONE WANTS RESIDENTIAL ON THAT CORNER AND SELF STORAGE WON'T WORK. RETAIL DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK ANYWHERE ANYMORE. SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME WITH LIKE COMMERCIAL IS A USE ON THERE.

AND THE LAST PIECE. WELL I SHOULDN'T SAY LAST PIECE. THE LAST BIG PIECE IS THE 50 ACRES, AND THAT'S ALREADY WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE CITY RIGHT NOW. SO I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS NOW OR YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK LATER. HAPPY TO DO IT AFTER OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS OF MR HOOLIGAN. COMMISSIONER ON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM HMM. THE CITY HAD A LIST OF, UM, EXCLUDED USES THAT WERE A LITTLE MORE EXTENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU'RE AH, THAT YOU HAD ON YOUR LIST. UM COULD YOU EXPAND ON SOME OF THOSE THAT THEY WERE WANTING US TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE? HAVE YOU HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD INTERESTS WITH THE CAR WASH OR SOME OF THE OTHER USES THAT THEY SAID I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTEREST AT ALL? I HAVEN'T SPOKE TO ANYBODY ABOUT SALES THERE OR WHAT? WHAT OUR PLANS ARE. WE HAD A LISTED FOR SALE AS A COMPLETE 5.66 ACRES BUT NEVER BROKEN UP INTO INDIVIDUAL LOT. UH, I CAME TO THE CITY APPLYING JUST FOR STRAIGHT ZONING, JUST LIKE COMMERCIAL ZONING AND STAFF RECOMMENDED A LIST OF THINGS TO EXCLUDE. AND WE DID A APPROXIMATELY. FIVE OUT OF 10 OR SIX OUT OF 10 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THERE'S A FEW LEFT ON THERE. I DON'T ACTUALLY EVEN REMEMBER WHICH ONES EXACTLY ARE LEFT ON THERE, BUT IF YOU CAN GIVE ME ANY OF THEM, I CAN PROBABLY LIGHT AUTOMOTIVE JUST GOING OFF OF MEMORY. BUT LIGHT AUTOMOTIVE WOULD BE ON THAT LIST, AND ALSO THERE WOULD BE AND SO MANY THINGS LIKE OIL CHANGE PLACES, AND, UM YOU KNOW THAT A TIRE STORE LIKE THAT? I THINK THAT WOULD A LOT OF GARLAND ITES WOULD BE TERRIFIED OF WOULD BE YET ANOTHER TIRE SHOP. UM OR A. IT WAS SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I DON'T THINK OIL CHANGE OR RETIRE SHOP WOULD MAKE OR BREAK ME SO I WOULDN'T MIND IF PNC COUNCIL RECOMMENDS THAT WE DON'T DO THAT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. YEAH ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. SO YOU'RE AWARE OF. WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDED TO EXCLUDE YOU FROM ALLOWING TO GO IN THERE. I DID READ IT THE OTHER DAY. MATTHEW SENT IT OVER TO US AND I DID. I DID. LOOK AT THAT. AND YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. I COULD PROBABLY LIVE WITH IT. OKAY. GOOD. ALRIGHTY SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT USES. AH I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE DEAL. THESE ARE USES THAT CAN BE APPROVED. SOME WITH AN S U P SOME OUTRIGHT UNDER THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL, AND I THINK THIS IS STAFFS ISSUE WITH IT. AND THIS IS EXCLUDING THE ONES THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO EXCLUDE. RECYCLED MATERIALS COLLECTION OUTSIDE DISPLAY. NEW MATERIALS OUTSIDE DISPLAY USED MATERIALS OUTSIDE STORAGE, NEW UNUSED MATERIALS. COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, OUTDOOR DRY BOAT STORAGE, OUTDOOR RECEPTION FACILITY SHOOTING RANGE INDOOR FLEA MARKET INDOOR COMMERCIAL BAKERY. MRS BAIRD'S MIGHT NOT BE BAD, BUT CONTRACTORS OUTSIDE STORAGE. AH TAKE CARE FACILITY, OUTDOOR VEHICLE DISPATCH AND STORAGE, AUTOMOBILE LEASING RENTAL, AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MINOR, REPAIR INDOORS. PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, SALES, LEASING, REPAIR, NEW AND USE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE SALES LEASING REPAIR. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A HELLA POD COULD GO THERE. DISTRIBUTION CENTER SMALL INDUSTRIAL LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND THE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF AND SINCE WE'RE THE STATE HAS RESTRICTED AS SO MUCH I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DOWNSIDE AS WELL AS THE UPSIDE NOW PHYSICS. EXCLUSIVELY TO WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM, AND THERE WAS SOME CONDITIONS WITH THE PD. BUT WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST SENIOR LIVING TO THE EAST RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, AND IT'S UM, UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE USES ITS IT'S JUST ME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

ALREADY GOT SOME OTHER SPEAKER CARDS HERE, UH, BRIAN DENCH. DID YOU CARE TO SPEAK OR OKAY. HE'S HERE FOR QUESTIONS HE'S FOR. AND MARILYN FRANKLIN. DID DID YOU CARE TO SPEAK? OKAY COME ON,

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AND SO THAT. ORIGINALLY MAKES IT A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. THEN IF WE THINK ABOUT VEHICLES.

POSSIBLY BIG TRUCKS, UTILITY TRAILERS COMING AND GOING FROM THE LOT RIGHT THERE. IT WILL REALLY BECOME A BAD SITUATION. UM. THE TIMELINE FOR FINISHING THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE STREET IS UNKNOWN. THEY HAVE TO MOVE THE FIREHOUSE TO THE NEW LOCATION. AND THEN THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION. BUT THE STREET IS GOING TO BE TORN UP FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, AND THE RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH DUST AND NOISE FROM THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE. FOR THE, UH ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S PASSED. THAT'S DONE, BUT WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE. IN EVEN CLOSER TO THE RESIDENCE IS CAUSING NOISE AND PROBLEMS WITH , UH OUTSIDE LIVING AT THEIR HOUSES. SO UM, THERE'S ANOTHER RESIDENT THAT I KNOW SENT A LETTER IN OPPOSITION. SHE FOR PERSONAL REASONS WHAT REASONS WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT. U.

THAT PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY TO RECEIVE THE NOTICE. I'M OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY, BUT MISS LEWIS AND FORMED A BAND, SO I CAME TO SPEAK FOR RESIDENTS WHO I DON'T WANT ANY THING VERY HEAVY BUILT THERE. WE HAVE A CAR WASH NEARBY. AT THE INTERSECTION. AH SHILOH AND WRAP A HO. WE HAVE A COFFEE SHOP, SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT ALONG SHILOH. BUT ALL I KNOW NOW IS THERE'S A FENCE AND THERE'S A TRAILER SITTING THERE. THERE'S NO SIGN TO LET US KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. SO, UH AND WE HAVE TWO GAS STATIONS ON OPPOSITE CORNERS. SO, PLEASE, UH. CONSIDER THE WELFARE OF THE NEIGHBORS. THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AND VOTE AGAINST ANYTHING THAT WOULD REALLY HURT THEIR PROPERTY VALUE AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. THAT'S LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WAS SPEAKING THIS CASE. OKAY LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP. SEE IF THEY WIN. IT WISHED TO ADD ANYTHING. I'M SORRY. YOU WANT ME TO ADD SOMETHING? WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND THAT IS THE STAFF. RECOMMENDED A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST. OF NOT ALLOWED USES. WOULD YOU AGREE? IF WE APPROVE THIS WITH THAT LIST? AS PART OF THE ATTACHMENT. OBJECT. ANYTHING. AH IF YOU APPROVE IT WITHOUT LIST, UM I'D BE OKAY. I'D AGREE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASK NOTHING. WE NEVER SAW THE TOWN HOME PROPOSALS SO THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO US, THEN DID IT.

NO. OKAY, BECAUSE HEY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR ME. ME TOO. YEAH. ALREADY. COMMISSION, DALTON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UH, YOU JUST READ OFF AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF OTHER ITEMS. THAT WE

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REMIND US ANYBODY. AND. THAT PASSES 5 TO 2 AND AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHO VOTED WHICH WAY IT WILL BE. IN THE MINUTES OF THE THANK YOU. BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOT A PRESENTATION ON THE PRESENTATION

[Items 3D & 3E]

THE APPLICATION OF. QUALITY ENGINEERING LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT. TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD 21-34 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH USE PROPERTIES LOCATED 5200 NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND ITEM. THREE E CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION EQUITY ENGINEERING LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH ON PROPERTIES OWNED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 21-34 SAME ADDRESS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M ERIN HAWKINS WITH PUTTING THE ENGINEERING AT 4500 MERCANTILE PLAZA DRIVE IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS, 76137. UM YEAH, I'LL GIVE A QUICKER INTRODUCTION TO SALAD AND GO IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE OF US, WE ARE COMING INTO DFW IN FORCE, UH, SALAD AND GO THEMSELVES STARTED OUT IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA, WHERE THEY REALLY LOCKED IN THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND ALL THAT. AND THEN, UM , THEY'VE MADE THEIR WAY INTO DFW. WE HAVE OPERATING STORES IN PLANO, DALLAS RICHARDSON, FORT WORTH, CARROLLTON, WATAUGA, FAIRVIEW FARMERS BRANCH TAXI, ARLINGTON RELIC GRANDE PRAIRIE.

BURLISON MESQUITE, NORTH THURSTON PILLS PROSPER AND FRISCO AND, UH, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET INTO GARLAND. UM I THINK WE ALSO THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR DISTRIBUTION FACILITY BREAKING GROUND HERE. UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR, SO UM, REALLY EXCITED AGAIN TO GARLAND , BUT SALAD AND GO ITSELF IS A SMALL FOOTPRINT BUILDING DRIVE THROUGH ONLY KNOW DINE IN, UM THERE IS IN THIS CASE THERE IS THE TRADITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH. THAT IS THE DOUBLE DRIVE THRU THERE'S THE MOBILE EXPRESS, AND THERE'S ALSO A WALK UP WINDOW. UM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO STILL PARK AND WALK. UM THAT IS AN OPTION. UM YEAH, THERE'S NO DINING, BUT, UH, OPERATION HOURS 6 TO 9 SO NOT OPEN LATE, SO YEAH. NO NOT EVEN ANY YOUNG SITE COOKING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE WARMED. IT'S JUST WARMED, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE COMES FROM THE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY. SURF COLD. UM, THEY ARE. SALADS ALL OF THEIR SALADS CAN ALSO BE ORDERED WRAPS. THEY HAVE A CYCLING SOUP, BREAKFAST, FRUTOS AND DRINKS, BUT NO C 02 DRINKS JUST COLD BREW COFFEE, TEAS AND LEMONADES SO THAT'S A LITTLE ABOUT THEM. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATIONS OR ANYTHING, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OR THE SITE ITSELF. COMMISSIONER ROSE WHAT'S WHAT'S THE TIMING? UH IF THIS IS APPROVED HERE AND THE COUNCIL YOU CAN BREAK GROUND AND APRIL MAY OR TWO YEARS FROM

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ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT I THINK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE, AN AUDIENCE, WHICH IS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. MR CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T HEARD THEIR LIST OF DRESSINGS YET, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THEIR APPLICATION AS POSTED SECOND. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. YES, THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON UH, TWO PROVEN HEARD, THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PARIS SAYS SHE WAS ADDING TO THE MOTION. UM, TO APPROVE THIS AND LET'S SEE. I SEE. UH. YEAH THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF GOOD DRESSINGS ON HERE. OKAY? ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEMS. JUST ONE I E. NO WE HAVE A P D. I'M SORRY, YES DETAIL ITEMS. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU'D INCLUDED THAT. ALREADY. FAVOR. MR CHAIR. CLARIFICATION YES. THREE, RIGHT? THE MEDIAN S U P. AND OKAY, SO THERE IS ESPECIALLY AS PROVISIONS YEAH, I KIND OF CAUGHT UP BY SAINT ITEMS DND. BUT YES, THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE ITEMS WITHIN THEM.

THERE'S THE MAKE HER THE MOTION AND THE SECOND CONCUR ON THAT, OKAY? SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WELCOME TO GARLAND. MHM ALREADY. LAST CASE IS A TWO

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THANK YOU. I'LL ASK YOU IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, WHICH IS SPEAK IN THIS CASE. THE NUN COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. MOVED TO CLOSER PUBLIC HEARING. MR ROBIN YES TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A PROOF. SECOND ALRIGHT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER I'VE BEEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE ITEMS. THREE F AND THREE G. DISH UH, THE S U P AND THE DETAILED PLAN. MOTION IS TO APPROVE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR

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