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HEY GUYS, WE

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WE'RE ABOUT TO START.

YEP.

HELLO? LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

YES, JIM.

JIM DOBBINS, DISTRICT ONE, JACKIE.

DISTRICT TWO BC.

MATTHEW, DISTRICT SEVEN, URIEL VILLA LIAISON.

BOB BRUNS, DISTRICT THREE, MAY ROBERTS, DISTRICT FIVE.

ROB.

UH, DISTRICT EIGHT.

THAT'S IT.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

WHAT DO WE HAVE? DID ANYBODY READ THE MINUTES? I DID.

YES.

YES.

THEY LOOK GOOD TO YOU.

THEY LOOK FINE TO ME.

GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MAKE A MOTION.

ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

I SECOND.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS SIR.

AND WHAT DO WE HAVE TODAY? BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

I LOVE THAT.

HELLO? HELLO.

SO, URIEL ASKED ME TO, I'M SORRY.

I'M BRITA VAN HORN.

I'M A BUILDING OFFICIAL HERE AT THE CITY OF GARLAND.

I'M RELATIVELY NEW.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 10, 11 MONTHS.

ACTUALLY GONNA SAY 10 MINUTES, BUT 10 MINUTES.

10, 11 MONTHS.

UH, AND URIEL ASKED ME TO COME AND GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK, UM, JUST SORT OF SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DO.

UM, YOU KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW, AND YES.

SO I MAY GO A LITTLE OVER AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, STUFF YOU DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, TRYING TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORK ON ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND, UM, EVEN HAVE A LITTLE POWERPOINT FOR YOU.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH I'M STRUGGLING, WHICH MIC I'M DOING HERE.

STEREO.

STEREO, YES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST STOP ME.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF AN INTER MORE HOPEFUL, HOPEFULLY MORE INTERACTIVE, BUT POWERPOINTS TEND TO BE, YOU KNOW, I TALK A LOT AND, UH, OKAY.

SO BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SO THE MISSION HELPS KIND OF DEFINE WHAT OUR MAIN FOCUS IS.

SO THE MISSION IS, UM, OF THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT BY REASONABLE ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODES, PROVIDING EFFICIENT CUSTOMER SERVICE, ENSURING QUALITY AND DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND USE OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY.

SO DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WE ALSO WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE WORK, UM, A LOT OF TIMES ON THE, THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THINGS, UM, WHEN THE HOUSES AND BUILDINGS AND THINGS GET BUILT, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND THERE'S ISSUES THAT COME UP.

CODE ENFORCEMENT TENDS TO WORK WITH PEOPLE ON BRINGING THEM BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH SOME OF THESE SAME CODES, BUT WE TEND TO FOCUS MORE ON THE, WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

SO THE, THE CODES WE PRIMARILY WORK WITH ARE CHAPTER 30, UH, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, UH, ALL OF OUR INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES UNDER.

SO WE ADOPTED A CODE FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, AND SOME OTHER THINGS, SWIMMING POOLS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THOSE, THOSE BOOKS ARE WRITTEN BY A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

SO THE CODES THAT YOU SEE IN THE, THE GENERALLY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR.

AND THOSE BOOKS GET ADOPTED FROM CITY TO CITY WITH SOME AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE ALSO, UM, A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO IS WE ALSO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THINGS MEET THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, OR G IS IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO, THAT'S THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT REGULATES A LOT OF THINGS LIKE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT ALSO SETBACKS AND HEIGHT AND, UM, VARIETY OF THINGS THAT, UM, SPEAK TO WHERE SOMETHING MIGHT BE BUILT WITH ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW IT LOOKS, UH, IN TO PROVIDE SOME UNIFORMITY AND STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE VISUAL IMPACTS THAT IT HAS.

SO WHAT WE DO, SO WE DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, GOING BACK TO THAT SAFETY THING, WE DO, WE, WE ISSUE A LOT OF PERMITS.

SO WE DO PERMITS FOR, LIKE I MENTIONED, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS, SINGLE FAMILY, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

PERMITS FOR REMODELING.

ANYTIME YOU'RE GONNA CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION OR REMODEL SOMETHING, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ISSUE PERMIT FOR THAT.

WE ALSO DO THINGS FOR PERMITS FOR FENCES AND SIGNS, UH, NEW FURNACES, WATER HEATERS, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED PERMITS, UM, SHEDS, DETACHED GARAGES, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, AND PART OF THAT PERMITTING PROCESS INCLUDES, IN MANY CASES A PLAN REVIEW WHERE WE ACTUALLY GET A SET OF STRUCTURAL PLANS OR PLANS FOR A BUILDING THAT WE ACTUALLY REVIEW BEFORE THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE CHECK THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT ACCORDING TO THOSE CODES BY DOING INSPECTIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? THAT'S YEAH, I DO.

YEAH.

YOU SAID WATER HEATERS? OH, YES.

SO DOES THAT MEAN IF I NEED A NEW WATER HEATER, I HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FOR IT? YEP.

THAT'S, UH, ACTUALLY IT'S A, IT'S A, A, A ITEM OF PLUMBING.

SO IT'S A REPLACEMENT OF A PLUMBING.

THIS HAS ALMOST BEEN IN EFFECT MM-HMM.

, YEAH, FURNACES.

I'VE, I'VE HAD SOME NEW WATER HEATERS.

WELL, I WILL SAY THAT NOT EVERY PERSON THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GET A PERMIT GETS A PERMIT.

SO THAT IS, UH, AN ELEMENT WHERE THERE'S SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE, THE CODES THAT WE'VE ADOPTED AND THE RULES, THOSE THINGS DO NEED TO BE INSPECTED.

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THERE'S SAFETY ELEMENTS WITH WATER HEATERS.

UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN STORIES ABOUT WATER HEATERS THAT ARE MISSING THEIR RELIEF VALVE, AND THEY HAVE, THEY GET PRESSURIZED AND THEY KIND OF GO OFF LIKE A BOMB.

AND NOT, NOT, NOT HAP DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN NOW CUZ OF MODERN EQUIPMENT.

BUT WE, WE GO INSPECT AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE INSTALLED CORRECTLY AND THAT THOSE DEVICES ARE WORKING AND, AND ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT'S A SIMPLE WAY, BUT SIMPLE, A SIMPLE THING WE DO, DO WE HAVE TO PAY TO GET THAT DONE? SO PERMITS, YEAH, THERE'S A FEE FOR PERMITS.

UM, HOW MUCH IS THAT ONE? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

IT'S, I I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

YEAH, WE, WELL, YOU HAVE TO.

IT'S JUST THAT I NEVER KNEW IT EXISTED.

THIS IS CALLED BRAND NEW NEWS TO ME.

YEAH.

WELL, IT'S GOOD THAT I'M HERE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

MAYBE YOUR PLUMBER MIGHT GOT THIS PERMISSION, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T.

WELL, MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN DOING ALL THE PLUMBING AND HE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE ALWAYS MANAGE THINGS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, ESPECIALLY HOMEOWNERS, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW ALL THESE THINGS.

AND SO SOMETIMES, UM, THEY LEARN AS THEY GO ALONG.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT THAT THIS IS NOT COMMON.

THIS IS NOT THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ON A DAILY BASIS, RIGHT? SO MOST PEOPLE AREN'T THINKING ABOUT, UM, THESE KIND OF THINGS.

SO WE TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.

THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS SO THAT YOU GET MORE INFORMATION, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO EITHER ISSUE CONTRACTOR LICENSES OR WE VERIFY STATE LICENSES THAT ARE, THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR CONTRACTORS.

SO GENERAL CONTRACTORS WHO DO, WHO OVERSEE BIG PROJECTS, GET LICENSES THROUGH US, THE STATE AND THE CITY, DEPENDING ON WHICH LICENSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE STATE TYPICALLY DOES LICENSES FOR ELECTRICIANS, MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS, PLUMBING AND IRRIGATION CONTRACTORS.

ALTHOUGH WE DO VERIFY THAT PEOPLE HOLD THOSE LICENSES WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED.

THERE ARE SOME RULES ABOUT HOMEOWNERS BEING ABLE TO DO WORK IN THEIR OWN HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY DON'T NEED A LICENSE.

SO THAT ALSO APPLIES.

SO GOING ON TO THE ZONING REVIEW, LIKE I'D MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, WE, UM, DO CHECK, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE LICENSE CONTRACTORS? YES.

DO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT, UH, INSURANCE, UH, WHEN THEY DO ANY NEW CONCESSION? SO, STRANGELY ENOUGH, AND THIS IS ONE OF MY NEW NEW PERSON THINGS I FOUND OUT WE DON'T HAVE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS HERE AT THE CITY FOR CONTRACTOR LICENSES, WHICH, BIZARRE.

WELL, WE ALSO DON'T REQUIRE A, A PROFICIENCY TEST, WHICH SOME CITIES DO.

AND SO D CITIES DO THIS VERY DIFFERENTLY.

UM, WELL, I I DO KETTLE CORN ON WEEKENDS MM-HMM.

AND I HAVE TO CARRY A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INSURANCE YEAH.

TO MAKE KETTLE CORN IN CITY OF GARLAND.

SO YEAH, JUST , YEAH, I WAS WORKING THAT GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.

YEAH, YEAH.

UH, REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE NEW CONCESSION.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

THAT'S WHY I ASK YOU.

WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY REQUIRED TO HAVE IT FROM THROUGH A STATE LAW.

THEY'RE PROBABLY REQUIRED TO HAVE INSURANCE AND WORKERS' COMPENSATION AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE NOT ALSO GETTING A COPY TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

I'M QUITE, I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT POSITIVE, BUT I'M 98% CERTAIN THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THEM FROM A BUSINESS LICENSING STANDPOINT AT THE STATE LEVEL.

BUT I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.

I LEAVE THE 2% FOR ME BEING WRONG IN THAT SCENARIO.

UM, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE ALSO, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE DO ZONING REVIEW.

NOW, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THEY ALSO REVIEW THINGS, UH, RELATED TO ZONING, AND THEY RE REVIEW THINGS THAT ARE DEVELOP, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEY LOOK AT IT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.

AND WE DO WORK WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY AS WELL.

BUT GENERALLY FOR STRAIGHTFORWARD THINGS LIKE A NEW HOUSE THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED ON A PARCEL, OR IF A SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A FENCE OR A GARAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE'RE ALSO CHECKING ZONING.

SO WE'RE CHECK MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT DISTANCE FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO THEIR BUILDINGS FOR, UH, A FEW REASONS.

ONE IS FIRE SAFETY SEPARATION AND, AND OTHER, ANOTHER REASON IS JUST, UM, UH, IF YOU, IF PEOPLE BUILD TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, IT, IT FEELS, YOU FEEL, YOU CAN FEEL PENNED IN.

SO THERE ARE RULES DEPENDING ON WHAT ZONING DISTRICT YOU'RE IN AS FAR AS WHERE YOU CAN BUILD THINGS ON YOUR PROPERTY.

ALSO, HOW MUCH YOU CAN COVER.

SO YOU CAN'T, IN MANY CASES, BUILD A BUILDING TO COVER YOUR ENTIRE PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND YARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

WE ALSO CHECK HEIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE LIMITED.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT JUST BECAUSE IT CAN SHADE OR OVERLOOK A NEIGHBOR.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS ON THAT.

AND ALSO THAT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING.

UM, WE ALSO, IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE, WE ALSO ARE THE, THE DEPARTMENT THAT, UM, SUPPORTS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ZONING BOARDS THAT THE CITY HAS.

THERE'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH LOOKS AT DEVELOPMENT CASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

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THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS SPECIFICALLY FORMED TO, UM, TO HEAR CASES REGARDING VARIANCES ABOUT THESE SETBACK AND OTHER ZONING RULES.

SO THEY SPECIFICALLY HEAR REQUESTS FOR VARIANCES TO THE, THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, AND THEY HAVE SENT SORT OF A LIMITED ABILITY, WHICH IS TO OFFER PEOPLE OR TO APPROVE A HARDSHIP OR VARIANCE BASED ON A HARDSHIP BASED ON THE LOT.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, LESS COMMON HARDSHIPS, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIZE OR THE SHAPE OR EVEN THE SLOPE OF THE LOT THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER LOTS WITHIN THE SAME AREA.

THERE ARE SOME REASONS WHY A VARIANCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A, A VERY STRANGE SHAPE OR A PIE SHAPE LOT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BACKYARD, BUT YOU ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS HAVE A BIG BACKYARD AND YOU WANNA BUILD A GARAGE, MAYBE THERE'S SOME ABILITY TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS AND THINGS TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO BUILD, NOT ACCORDING TO THE STRICT RULES, BUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THOSE RULES FOR THAT SPECIFIC HARDSHIP.

AND SO WE ALSO WORK WITH THAT BOARD, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S A BOARD LIKE YOURSELVES THAT, THAT MEET PERIODICALLY TO, TO, TO HEAR THESE CASES.

UM, I MENTIONED PLANNING DEPARTMENT EARLIER, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT OF WORK THAT WE DO THAT'S RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.

SO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW IS REALLY, IT CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THE MOST COMMON THAT WE SEE WOULD BE SOMEBODY HAS A PIECE OF VACANT LAND.

IT CAN BE A VERY, VERY SIZES, BUT THEY WANNA BUILD A HOUSING SUBDIVISION, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY TO DESIGN THE ROADS AND DESIGN THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND DESIGN ANY KIND OF AMENITY FEATURES AND MAYBE DESIGN, UM, SPECIFIC, A SPECIFIC AESTHETIC.

OR THEY WANT THE BUILDINGS TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY THAT MAYBE DON'T, MAYBE DOESN'T COMPLY EXACTLY WITH THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE VERY VARIOUS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS REVIEW THOSE THINGS, AND THEN THEY DIVIDE THE LAW, THEY DIVIDE THIS ONE PIECE OF LAND INTO MULTIPLE PIECES OF LAND, AND THEY CREATE RIGHT OF WAY FOR ROADS AND THE ROADS GET BUILT AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO IT'S A LONG PROCESS OF COURSE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED, BUT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT AS WELL.

AND WE, WE LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, VERY PRELIMINARY LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD BUILDINGS, BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS COORDINATE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PERMITS COME IN SEQUENCE AND, AND THINGS GET BUILT IN THE RIGHT ORDER SO THAT THE LAND GETS DIVIDED PROPERLY.

AND THEN THE ROADS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT MAKES SURE THAT THE PIPES GET PUT IN THE GROUND FOR A WATER AND SEWER AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN THE ROADS GET BUILT AND THEN WE JUST MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS COORDINATED WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUILDING PERMIT TIME.

AND THEN THE BUILD BUILDINGS GET BUILT AND THEN PEOPLE START LIVING THERE AND ON, ON YOU GO WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE CITIZENS COMING TO THE CITY TO LIVE HERE.

SO THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT.

UM, IT'S A, I'D SAY IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT IT'S NOT THE PRIMARY PURPOSE.

WE ARE JUST INVOLVED IN THAT BECAUSE WE ARE A PLAYER.

SO SOMETHING ELSE WE DO IS THAT, UM, CERT WE, WE ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR, UM, WHEN BUSINESSES MOVE INTO OR MOVE FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING OR TENANT SPACE TO TENANT SPACE.

SO EVERY TIME THERE'S A MO A MOVE OF A BUSINESS, THEY NEED TO COME IN AND APPLY TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

AND I LOOK AT THIS MORE FROM A, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IT'S BETTER.

I DEFINE IT BETTER AS BUSINESS LICENSING SORT OF, BECAUSE REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE COORDINATING, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THAT BUSINESS, INCLUDING LOOKING AT HOW ARE THEY USING THE SPACE AND IS IT ALLOWED IN THEIR ZONING DISTRICT.

SO THERE'S A BUILDING REVIEW AND THERE'S A ZONING ELEMENT TO IT, AND WE LOOK AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.

IF YOU HAVE A, A WAREHOUSE WITH THREE EMPLOYEES THAT'S LARGE BUILDING, AND THEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO CONVERT IT INTO A A CHURCH, THE CHURCH IS GONNA HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME WITH THEIR CARS TO PARK.

AND THE WAREHOUSE MIGHT HAVE 10 PEOPLE THAT COME.

AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING IF THEY SHOULD CHANGE A BUILDING FROM A WAREHOUSE TO A CHURCH.

AND SO WE LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING REUSE AND MOVING OF BUSINESSES, THAT THERE'S KIND OF THE APPROPRIATE, UM, FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY NEED AS WELL.

UM, AND, AND THAT THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT ZONING DISTRICT TOO.

UM, WE DON'T WANT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, A BIG FACTORY SPROUTING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED BY ZONING.

SO WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS KIND OF, UM, ARE CHECKED SO THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE KIND OF CONTINUITY, UH, IN ZONING DISTRICTS AND THINGS DON'T GET MISPLACED, UH, AND CREATE OTHER ISSUES HERE.

UH, UH, TBC CORONATION, UH, LIQUOR LICENSING.

WHERE'S THAT ACTUALLY? WHERE DOES THAT, I'M SORRY.

WHERE DOES THAT, YEAH, WHAT IS EXACTLY, UH, THAT MEANS? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO.

SO IF A, IF A BUSINESS COMES BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING INTO A, A BUILDING AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT THAT SELLS LIQUOR OR THEY'RE GONNA BE A LIQUOR STORE, OR THEY'RE GOING, GOING TO BE A VARIETY OF THINGS.

WE JUST HAD ONE COME IN THE OTHER DAY WHO TODAY WHO HIS BUSINESSES, HE HAS A WAREHOUSE TO STORE HIS EQUIPMENT THAT HE DOES MOBILE BARTENDING, BUT THAT

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HAS, THAT REQUIRES A LIQUOR LICENSE, RIGHT.

SO THERE'S THIS T A B C IS THE TEXAS, I THINK IT'S ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE COMMISSION.

AND SO WE COORDINATE THE RE WE COORDINATE OUR WORK AT THE CITY WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THERE'S PAPERWORK THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH AS IT RELATES TO CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.

YEAH.

WE DO OTHER THINGS LIKE COORDINATE WITH UTILITIES ABOUT GETTING UTILITIES TURNED ON.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SORT, THERE'S SORT OF A PERMISSION CHAIN THAT THEY GET THEIR CO AND THERE'S APPROVAL AND THEN THEY GET THEIR UTILITIES PUT ON OR TURNED ON.

AND SO WE COORDINATE ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS YOU, YOU CAN READ.

I DON'T HAVE TO READ 'EM ALL TO YOU, BUT THERE'S CONVENIENCE STORE REGISTRATION, AND THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR CONVENIENCE STORES ABOUT HAVING CAMERAS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.

THAT'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT THING, BUT WE HELP COORDINATE THAT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S, UM, TAX LICENSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY JUST TO SORT OF MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE MOVING INTO A CERTAIN BUILDING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT LOCATION IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

KINDA A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW.

SO SOME OTHER KIND OF, I COLUMN 'EM SOMEWHAT RANDOM THINGS THAT WE DO.

UM, WE ISSUE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A 5K RACE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HELP COORDINATE THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND ISSUE THE PERMIT FOR THAT.

UM, WE DO SOME PERMITS FOR GRADING AND DRAINAGE, UM, UH, EROSION CONTROL, AND IT'S MAYBE NOT A TERM THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IF THEY, IF PEOPLE ARE MOVING DIRT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DIRT STAYS ON THE SITE AND DOESN'T GET WASHED OUT INTO THE RIVERS AND STORM SEWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ALSO ISSUES PERMITS LIKE THAT.

BUT FOR LARGER SITES, BIG CONSTRUCTION SITES OR OR DEVELOPMENT, WE DO PERMITS FOR DRIVEWAYS AND, AND PARKING SURFACES AND, UH, APPROACHES OR CURB CUTS, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU LIKE TO CALL 'EM.

UM, PERMITS FOR SIDEWALKS.

UH, OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS DO SOME WORK WITH SIDEWALKS AS WELL.

TAKE AREA PERMITS.

SO THERE'S PERMITTING FOR THINGS THAT GET BUILT IN THE STRIP OF LAND THAT'S BETWEEN PEOPLE'S BACKYARD AND THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

SO THERE'S PEOPLE, THERE'S 102, I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, ACTS OR BACKUP DIRECTLY TO THE, TO THE TAKE AREA, WHICH THEN IS, UH, FRONTAGE FOR LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

THAT LAND IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEY, THEY LET US MANAGE IT AND LEASE IT TO PEOPLE.

SO WE ALSO WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON SOME, SOME THINGS RELATED TO THAT.

UM, TB, T A B C LIQUOR LICENSING, WHICH RENEWS EVERY TWO YEARS.

SO WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH BUSINESSES JUST WHEN THEY HAVE TO RENEW AND GETTING THEIR LICENSE WITH THE STATE FOR THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE.

AGAIN, WE DO SOME ASSISTING WITH GRANT PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, DOWNTOWN FACADE PROGRAM, DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING FUNDS FROM THE CITY THROUGH A PROPOSAL THAT WE REVIEW.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY GET SOME ASSISTANCE WITH FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'RE A PART OF THAT.

UM, THOSE ARE MANAGED BY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE, WE TRY TO GIVE OUR INPUT FROM THE BUILDING PERSPECTIVE TO TRY TO GET THOSE PROJECTS OFF TO A GOOD START.

UH, , WE ISSUE PERMITS FOR TEMPORARY SHIPPING CONTAINERS LIKE CHRISTMAS TIME AND WALMART WANTS 15 SHIPPING CONTAINERS IN THEIR BACK PARKING LOT.

WE ACTUALLY ISSUE PERMITS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

KIND OF A RANDOM THING, BUT IT'S FUN.

UM, TEMPORARY AMUSEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE, IF WE HAD A CARNIVAL OR A FAIR, WE WOULD ISSUE A PERMIT FOR THAT.

AND THEN WE MANAGE SOMETHING CALLED THE AUTOMOTIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH IS AUTOMOTIVE USES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN MOVE TO AND HOW IF THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GET BIGGER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE MANAGING THAT THROUGH THE CO PROCESS.

AND THAT IS THE END OF MY RAMBLING SPIEL.

SO IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE I MISSED SOME THINGS THAT WE, DO YOU GUYS GET INVOLVED IN THE AIRBNB ISSUES? SO WE, UM, NOT DIRECTLY, UNLESS THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE, SAY, A PERMIT OR ANY OF THESE THINGS.

UM, THEY ARE REGULATED, UM, TO A DEGREE BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS.

KIND OF LIKE, THEY ALSO DO RENTAL HOUSING, SO, UM, APARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE INSPECTED BY THAT GROUP.

AND THIS, THOSE FALL KIND OF IN THAT SAME CATEGORY.

I KIND OF WANNA KNOW WHY WE HAVE SO MANY AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESSES IN GARLAND PERIOD.

AND THEN, UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY HOW PEOPLE SIDESTEP THE CODE COMPLIANCE BY OCCUPYING THE OLDER BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE EXEMPT FROM THE CURRENT RULES AS TO HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU CAN HAVE ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, I'LL TRY TO, TRY TO ANSWER AS BEST I CAN.

I MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT PERSON.

SO AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES, IT'S KIND OF A, HIS HISTORY OF GARLAND FROM MY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING SINCE I'M NEW HERE, BUT THERE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LOT OF AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES.

IT'S KIND OF KNOWN FOR AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES.

AND PART OF IT IS THAT I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF HISTORIC BUSINESSES THAT HAVE STAYED.

AND ONCE, IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU HAVE, YOU'RE STAYING IN A ZONING DISTRICT, YOU TYPICALLY CAN STAY THERE UNTIL YOU GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

AND EVEN

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THEN, IF THE ZONING IS ALLOWS AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS, A NEW ONE COULD COME IN THERE.

UM, THE, THE FACT IS THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY CONTINUE TO STAY BECAUSE WE'RE KNOWN FOR THAT.

AND THERE MAY BE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MAKES AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD EITHER, UM, LIMIT ZONING ON NEW AREAS OR LIMIT, UM, CHANGE SOME ZONING TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AFTER A BUSINESS STAYS THERE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS AND THEN THEY GO OUTTA BUSINESS, MAYBE THE ZONING WOULDN'T ALLOW SOMEBODY TO REOCCUPY FOR THAT USE.

BUT THAT'S REALLY A LAND USE THING THAT'S DRIVEN A LOT BY HISTORY ZONING AND KIND OF VESTED RIGHTS IN CERTAIN PARCELS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME.

SO WHEN THE, WHEN THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS, DOES THE CITY REQUIRE 'EM TO REMEDIATE THE LAND? UM, YOU MEAN AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTALLY? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

I DON'T, NOT WHEN THEY, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EXACTLY, BUT NOT, NOT AS PART OF WHAT WE DO AND NOT WHEN THEY NECESSARILY JUST CHANGE BUSINESS OWNERS.

YEAH.

SO RECENTLY I PURCHASED SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN GARLAND.

MM-HMM.

, TWO OF THE PARCELS THAT I HAD UNDER CONTRACT.

IT TURNED OUT DURING AN ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTION THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES.

MM-HMM.

.

SO YOU PAY YOUR $3,000, GET YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THEN FIND OUT THAT YOU NEED THE PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL BECAUSE THERE WAS A BODY SHOP THERE 30 YEARS AGO MM-HMM.

, WHICH MAKES THAT LAND PRETTY MUCH UNSELLABLE TO ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR CASH BUYERS.

AND THAT'S HOW THE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES MOVES AROUND IN GARLAND.

THEY PAY CASH FOR THE BUILDINGS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET MORTGAGES SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR YEAH.

ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

THE CITY ALSO DOES PRETTY MUCH YOU SIGN UP AND SAY, I'M GONNA HAVE A WAREHOUSE AND GET YOUR CO THEN YOU PUT IN A PAINT BOOTH AND START PAINTING CARS AND THE CITY DOESN'T EVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

WELL, THERE ARE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE DO GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR, FOR PAINT BOOTHS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT ARE GOING IN AND WE PERMIT THOSE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AND THERE ARE SOME OBVIOUSLY THAT LIKE, LIKE OTHER THINGS THEY GO IN, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHECKS, UH, THEY HAVE REGULAR INSPECTIONS TO CHECK FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BEEN A BUSINESS AND GROW FOR 25 YEARS.

YEAH.

SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

SO, UM, MANY TIMES THINGS LIKE THAT DO GET CAUGHT EVENTUALLY.

AND WE DO PERMIT QUITE A FEW OF THEM AS WELL.

UM, THE ENVI THE ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO STUFF, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

I, I'M NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN MY DEPARTMENT.

I CAN'T SAY THAT THERE'S NOT SOME ENVIRONMENTAL WORK THAT GOES ON, BUT I THINK THAT IS A LOT.

A LOT OF THAT'S DRIVEN BY SOME FEDERAL LAW AND PRIVATE SECTOR TRANSFER.

THEY DON'T WANNA LET YOUR MONEY ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S POLLUTED.

RIGHT.

I OWN A RECYCLING COMPANY, SO I CAN'T OCCUPY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY POLLUTED.

I'D NEVER BE ABLE TO GET ANY INSURANCE.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE RAN INTO IT.

AND I DON'T THINK, UH, RECYCLING COMPANIES GET REGULATED ALL THAT HARD IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE FOR MY VERY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE.

I KNOW THERE'S STATE AND FEDERAL DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL RULES AND I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT PART THE CITY PLAYS IN THAT FROM A, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

I THINK THAT FROM MY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING, IT'S MORE OF A STATE AND FEDERAL KIND OF REGULATION THING AND THEN REGULATED THROUGH TRANSACTIONS LIKE REAL ESTATE SALES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I CAN REACH OUT TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY REGULATE AND YEAH.

COME BACK TO YOU GUYS.

YEAH.

I'VE NEVER HAD A REQUEST.

I KNOW DALLAS, IF WE WANTED TO OCCUPY OPEN LAND IN DALLAS, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOIL SAMPLES IN THE BEGINNING AND SOIL SAMPLES IN THE END.

AND IF YOU HAVE POLLUTED THE LAND, YOU WILL REMEDIATE IT BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU SEE THE OLDER SCRAPYARDS.

SO JUST BE THERE FOR GENERATIONS BECAUSE THEY NEVER MOVE.

YEAH.

THEY CAN'T MOVE.

YEAH.

THEY CAN'T MOVE CUZ THEY CAN'T MOVE, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN SELL TO ANOTHER SCRAPYARD, BUT NOBODY ELSE.

YEAH.

AND THAT IS THE CASE IN GARLAND AS WELL.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS FOR MY FAMILY MORE YEAH.

MY GRANDKIDS.

UM, THERE, THERE ARE SO MANY AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESSES WHERE MY BUSINESS IS AND THERE'S OPEN STORM WATER BEHIND ALL OF 'EM.

THERE'S ZERO CHANCE THAT, THAT THERE'S NOT PAINT PARTICLES AND ALL KINDS OF UNDESIRABLE THINGS YEAH.

THAT TRAVELING THROUGH OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM BECAUSE OF IT.

I THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD BE A GOOD START.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

AND IT'LL 'EM TOMORROW, THEN I'LL GET BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

YEAH.

AND SOME OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE CERTAINLY POLICY DECISIONS TO BRING TO LIKE, UH, I'M GUESSING YOU'RE, YOU GUYS ARE A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH COUNCIL COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION.

IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD TOPIC.

THAT'S, THIS IS WHY WE'RE STARTING IT.

I MEAN YEAH.

WE'RE AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO THE RULES OF THE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN YEAH.

IT'S EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

YOUR OTHER QUESTION AGAIN, REMIND ME, IT WAS ABOUT PERMITTING.

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND THEN YOU ASKED ME SOMETHING ELSE.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET A PERMIT TO OPEN A NEW, BUT I GUESS YOU CAN JUST APPLY FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS.

YES.

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WELL, IN SOME DISTRICTS IT'S ALLOWED, AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESS IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

OR BY S U EVEN.

SO YOU'LL SEE, SO YOU'LL SEE ZONING LIKE IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MAY ALLOW AN AUTOMOTIVE USE TO BE THERE MM-HMM.

AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN BUILDING CODE RULES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, UM, AND FIRE CODE RULES, BUT IT'S NOT PROHIBITED.

SO THEY COULD MOVE IN THERE AS LONG AS THEY MEET ALL THOSE OTHER RULES.

WHAT YEAR IS IT THAT THEY CAN OCCUPY THE ENTIRE, UM, PROCESS? WHAT, WHAT YEAR WOULD THAT BUILDING HAVE TO BE BUILT BEFORE FOR HOW MANY CARS YOU CAN PARK ON THE PROPERTY? I, I USED TO KNOW, I WANT TO SAY HOW MANY CARS YOU CAN PARK 91.

YEAH.

I GUESS WHAT PARKING RESTRICTIONS WHEN LIMITS, I GUESS WHEN WE STARTED ISSUING PARKING PLANS FOR SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES.

UM, WE'VE JUST STARTED DOING THAT.

I'M GONNA SAY LIKE IN THE EARLY NINETIES, MAYBE LATE EIGHTIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT HAPPENED HERE.

REESE, THAT'S BEEN RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, SO THE OLD BUILDINGS BUILT BEFORE THAT DATE YEAH.

ARE EXEMPT FROM THAT.

AND SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU SEE CARS ON THE SIDEWALK AND PRETTY MUCH STANDING STRAIGHT UP TO, TO GET 'EM IN YEAH.

THEY HAVE TO EMPTY THEIR PARKING LOT IN THE MORNING SO THEY CAN START WORK YEAH.

IN MANY OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND MAKES IT VERY DANGEROUS FOR MURIEL'S VEHICLES FOR US TRYING TO GO UP AND DOWN THE STREET MM-HMM.

BECAUSE THERE'S ALL THESE JUNK CARS YOU HAVE TO SWERVE AROUND ALL THE TIME.

SO COUNCIL REALLY RECENTLY, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT DATE IT WAS, BUT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS PASSED A, A REVISION TO THE PARKING AROUND AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES WHERE IT, IT REQUIRES THEM TO PARK AND HAVE EVEN THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THINGS BE ABLE TO PARK ON THE SITE.

AND SO IF YOU'RE FINDING THAT THERE'S AN AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES THAT IS, HAS PARKING, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN EVERY DISTRICT OR IF IT'S JUST NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, I'D HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE AGAIN.

IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

YEAH.

IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

RESIDENTIAL.

SO, UM, BUT THEY STILL ARE REQUIRED TO PARK LEGALLY.

RIGHT.

SO IF THERE ARE PEOPLE PARK ILLEGALLY, CERTAINLY THE MARSHALS, IF IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK OR IF IT'S ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE MARSHALS.

WE ASSIST THAT FOR LIKE SIX WEEKS IN A ROW AND THEN JUST GIVE UP ON IT.

.

YEAH.

SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT.

YEAH.

I MEAN COMPLIANCE WILL ANSWER, BUT THERE IS NO LONGER A CODE COMPLIANCE SECTION IN THE FOR PARKING.

IT ALL GOES TO THE MARSHALS AND THE MARSHALS ARE UNINTERESTED IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.

AND THE MARSHALS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE PARCEL ITSELF, WE'LL REFER IT TO CODE.

I KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO THERE IS INTERACTION AND DISCUSSION GOING ON BETWEEN THEM.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION AS TO AND THE WHERE IT'S AT AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT I STILL WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING AN ISSUE TO, TO CALL IT IN.

I THINK, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE SAFE AND LEGAL, YOU GUYS CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME TRANSPORTATION, THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT AND AND RUN IT TO TO THEM.

YES.

IF IT'S BREAK, I CAN ALSO ASK HIM IF HE CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE THE OTHER THING IS NOT YOUR PURVIEW, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD, UM, NOT BE ABLE TO PARK UNREGISTERED VEHICLES FOR MORE THAN A CERTAIN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ON THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE VEHICLES THAT THEY USE FOR PARTS MM-HMM.

THAT ARE THERE TOO IN THREE YEARS MM-HMM.

, I MEAN, OR LONGER, 10 OR 15 YEARS .

YEAH.

UM, I'D HAVE TO READ UP ON THAT AGAIN, BUT I'M SURE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ZONING DISTRICT IT IS.

IF IT'S INDUSTRIAL WHERE THEY CAN HAVE PARTS AND PARTS STORAGE AND VERSUS A AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR.

MAYBE NOT AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WHERE THERE IS A LIMIT ON THAT, BUT IT'S, AND IT'S NOT YEARS AND YEARS, BUT IT'S 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU COULD HAVE A VEHICLE BEING WORKED ON FOR PERIOD OF TIME.

YOU KNOW, RESTORATION PLACES USUALLY HAVE CARS FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF RESTORATION TIME.

BUT YEAH, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE ZONING DISTRICT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND SO WE COULD LOOK INTO, CERTAINLY IF YOU FIND SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA, WE COULD LOOK AT THE PROPERTY ADDRESS WILL HELP US IDENTIFY THE SITUATION A LITTLE BETTER.

YEAH.

I'M I'M QUITE SURE THAT SOON THEY NEED TO REQUIRE SOME SORT OF, IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOIL SAMPLE TAKEN TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A RECORD OF THAT AND IT SHOULD HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN GUIDELINES ON THE WAY IN AND ON THE WAY OUT.

OR ALL OF GARLAND'S GONNA BE AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

YEAH.

IT'S A LONG HISTORY CERTAINLY HERE.

YEAH.

WELL IT'S DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT FUTURE.

NO, I, NO, I'M NOT SAYING IT DOES OR DOESN'T.

I'M JUST, I, I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND THIS, THERE'S BEEN A, A LONG SORT OF INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HERE, BUILT THREE NEW TIRE SHOPS, THREE NEW OIL CHANGE AND TIRE SHOPS WHERE THERE'S ALREADY 16 OF 'EM.

MM-HMM.

BETWEEN LIKE 30 AND CENTERVILLE.

THERE'S 16 OIL CHANGE AND TIRE PLACES AND THEY'VE BUILT THREE NEW ONES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

YEAH.

WELL GOOD.

THAT LET'S ME GO, LET ME, LET ME, THAT WORKS ME INTO MY QUESTION.

OKAY, GOOD.

AND THIS MAY BE OUTSIDE OF YOUR SCOPE.

YEAH.

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UM, BUT KIND OF LIKE BOB'S SITUATION, I HAVE SEVEN CAR WASHES WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF MY HOUSE.

YES.

YEAH.

WHY IS THAT? YES.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A DROUGHT.

WHY ARE WE BUILDING CAR WASHES? .

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

I CAN SEE ABOUT GETTING WILL OUT HERE.

UH, HE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND I THINK THIS FULL IN HIS, UH, PLANNING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I KNOW ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS, BUT YEAH.

THE PERMITS, THE MOST POPULAR PERMITS REQUESTED IN GARLAND ARE YEAH.

CAR WASHES AND MINI STORAGE.

SO THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S TWO KIND OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN BUSINESSES COME IN TO DEVELOP, LET'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DEVELOP, THAT'S DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY WANNA BUILD A NEW BUILDING.

THEY EITHER IT'S A PIECE OF VACANT LAND OR THEY WANNA SCRAPE SOMETHING AND CREATE A VACANT PIECE OF LAND AND THEN BUILD SOMETHING ELSE ON.

UM, A LOT OF IT IS WHAT IS IT ZONED AND WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND SOMETIMES THINGS ARE ALLOWED JUST IT, SO IF YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT HAS A HUNDRED PARCELS THAT ARE ALL A CERTAIN ZONING AND THEY WANNA BUILD A HUNDRED OF THE SAME THING IN THE SAME DISTRICT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING THAT.

SO IT'S MORE OF A MARKET KIND OF FACTOR RIGHT THERE.

IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

YEAH.

WELL, OKAY, WELL YES, YOU WOULD HAVE BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND SEVEN CLEAN CARS, ROBERT'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, BUT, BUT THAT'S BUT, BUT TECHNICALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE ANSWERS.

SO THAT'S ONE.

SO IT, IT'S POSSIBLE IF PEOPLE FIND ZONING AND THEY WANNA BUILD A CAR WASH NEXT TO SIX OTHER CAR WASHES AND THEY FIND AN ECONOMIC WAY TO DO IT, AND THEY, IT'S ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT.

AND THEY FOLLOW ALL THE OTHER RULES AND THEY COULD THEORETICALLY DO IT JUST WITH PERMITS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THEY NEED.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF IT IS NOT ZONED FOR THAT USE, AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS THAT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS THEY MAKE A CASE FOR BUILDING WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD.

AND THEY RUN IT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO THEN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION AND WHO THEN GOES, GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION DECISION WHETHER THAT'S OKAY OR NOT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OTHER AVENUE.

SO IF IT GOES THROUGH THAT AND THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS, OKAY, WELL WE'RE OKAY WITH A CAR WASH, THEN THEY BUILD ANOTHER CAR WASH.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN KIND OF WAYS THINGS GET BUILT OR DEVELOPED OR REDEVELOPED HERE IN THE CITY.

SO, UM, WHY THAT IS THAT WAY? I MEAN, UM, IT'S, I CAN SAY THAT, THAT THOSE TWO KIND OF PROCESSES ARE NOT UNUSUAL IN EVERY OTHER CITY AND JURISDICTION I'VE WORKED IN.

I MEAN, IT'S A MATTER OF SOMEWHAT LETTING THE MARKET DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO AND WORK ITSELF OUT AND DECISIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL MAKES AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WANNA SEE IN DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR SPECIAL PERMISSION TO DO IT.

IT'S CALLED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND U AND ALL OF OF THOSE HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE SITUATIONS, HOW, HOW IMPORTANT, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO AIR CITIZEN COMMENTS? WELL, YOU'RE ASKING ME A POLITICAL QUESTION.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

.

UM, WELL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, JUST FROM, UH, FROM EVERY BOARD, EVERY COMMISSION, EVERY COUNCIL, EVERY MEETING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUBLIC FOR A REASON AND MOST OF THEM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP AND, AND EX JUST SAY THEIR PART.

RIGHT.

THAT'S PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN ANY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, FOR PEOPLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND, AND EXPLAIN KIND OF THEIR POINT OF VIEW AND, AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN DECISIONS ARE MADE.

I MEAN, AND SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LOT OF TRACTION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC IDEA AND YOU KNOW, THAT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON THE DECISIONS AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

BUT IT'S STILL, I THINK, IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY SAY WHAT THEY FEEL.

I'LL JUST CALL THAT QUESTION.

DID I ANSWER IT CORRECTLY? YOU DID.

THANK YOU.

I THINK YOU SHOULD GO ASK IF THEY CAN RESTRICT THE CAR WASHES TO THE SAME DAYS, YOU CAN RUN YOUR SPRINKLERS PERSONALLY.

YEAH.

I, I DO, I WILL SAY FROM THE BUILDING CODE PERSPECTIVE, THEY DO RECYCLE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR WATER.

SO FROM A WATER PERSPECTIVE THEY LOOK BAD, BUT THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. UM, THE, THE MODERN ONES, HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR WATER, WHEN WE RUN OUR SPRINKLERS, IT'S A SAYING AND WE'RE NOT FILLING THEIR FULL OF CHEMICALS ON THE WAY.

YEAH.

OR OIL DEBRIS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DID THEY FILTER OUT THOSE IMPURITIES AND WHAT DID THEY DO WITH THEM? ARE THEY REQUIRED TO SHIP 'EM OFF TO A RECYCLING SITE OR NO, THEY FLUSHING THROUGH THE, I THINK THEY GO TO THE SANITARY, NO, I DON'T THINK THEY GO TO THE STORM SYSTEM.

I THINK THEY GO TO THE SANITARY SYSTEM.

ALL THAT, ALL THAT WATER WOULD GO SANITARY, WHICH GOES TO THE TREATMENT PLANT LINE DESTINATION.

SAME DESTINATION.

YES, EXACTLY.

YEAH.

WELL, ALL THAT CREEK, IT GOES THROUGH A TREATMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE, THE SANITARY SEWER.

SEWER AND THE STORM MARK.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE TOURED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

, MY GOD, IT WAS AWFUL.

DID YOU GO IN THE LITTLE BUILDING? NO, NO, NO.

I WOULD NOT.

YOU DID, YOU STOOD OUT THERE AND STARED AT US.

NO, I MUD GOING IN THERE.

NO, BUT WE DID GO THROUGH WHERE THEY TESTED THE WATER FOR CHEMICALS.

WE DID.

WE WENT THROUGH AND THAT WAS FASCINATING.

[00:35:01]

IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING TOUR BECAUSE THEY DO IT OUTSIDE OF, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SHERWIN WILLIAMS AND VALSPAR, THEY DO IT PERIODICALLY, BUT MONTHLY MAYBE, OR EVERY 90 DAYS THEY TEST THE WATER COMING OUT OF THOSE PLACES.

IT'S SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT GARLAND THAT WE SHOULD BE ANNOUNCING TO PEOPLE.

I MEAN, THEY CARE ABOUT YOUR WATER THAN THEY TESTED WAY MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOU THINK THEY DO.

WELL YOU KNOW THAT ABOUT THE CAR WASHES.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALL NEIGHBORS, JUST KNOWING THAT YEAH, YEAH.

UM, GIVEN A, A, A PRESENTATION ABOUT IT.

SO WE KNOW, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

EVEN IF, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN, WE CAN, I CAN FIND OUT OR WE CAN FIND OUT QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM.

, SO YOU'RE OVER FENCES, SO THAT'S LIKE IN NEW, UM, BUILDINGS, NEW HOUSES, FENCES, OR WHAT ABOUT EXISTING HOMES? SO EXISTING HOMES, UM, IF THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, BUT THERE'S SOME ISSUE OR PROBLEM OR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMON THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUNK OR NOT MODE, WEEDS, TALL WEEDS, THAT KIND OF THING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR THINGS IN DISREPAIR.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO THOSE THINGS TYPICALLY GO TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE THEN FOR KIND OF MAINTENANCE OVER TIME.

RIGHT.

SO THEY, THEY TRY TO KEEP THE, THE GENERAL STANDARDS OF THINGS UP, UM, TO CERTAIN DIFFERENT BUT CERTAIN CODE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINED AND, AND YOU KNOW, SIGHTLY IN THAT KIND OF THING OVER TIME.

AND SO THE SAME THING IS APPLICABLE FOR LIKE WALLS, LIKE A BRICK WALL IN COMMUNITY.

IS THAT WITH COCO COMPLIANCE AS WELL? YEAH, IT, IT WAS BEING REMODELED.

UM, SO THAT'S COCO COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? WELL, IF IT'S BEING RECONSTRUCTED, IT WOULD BE A PERMIT USUALLY THROUGH US.

ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME, IF YOU'RE REPLACING IT EXACTLY, LIKE FOR, LIKE THERE ARE SOME ABIL THERE'S SOME ABILITY TO DO MAINTENANCE AND MAINTAIN IT THE WAY IT IS WITHOUT PERMITS SPECIFICALLY FOR FENCES.

BUT A LOT OF THINGS AREN'T THAT WAY.

BUT IF THEY'RE, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING AND THEY'RE NOT FIXING IT, IT'S A BRICK WALL IN THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.

THAT NEEDS TO BE REDONE.

SO YEAH, YOU'RE THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S OVER THAT A BRICK WALL BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE VOLUNTARILY RECONSTRUCTING IT OR BECAUSE THEY NEED TO RECONSTRUCT IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO, IT NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED AND THEY DON'T WANT TO, OR THEY HAVEN'T.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF, UM, DOING THAT NOW.

OKAY.

WE'RE JUST GETTING VENDORS AND YEAH.

WHATNOT.

RIGHT.

IF, WELL, IF SOMEONE IS VOLUNTARILY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RECONSTRUCTING IT, IF THEY NEED A PERMIT, THEY WOULD COME TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IF YOU SEE A, A, A WALL LIKE THAT IN AN AREA WHERE IT'S FALLING DOWN AND THEY DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, CODE ENFORCEMENT WHERE THEY WOULDN'T WORK WITH THEM ON GETTING IT FIXED.

SO DO THEY HAVE LIKE GRANTS OR WHAT ARE YES.

EXIST WITH THAT AS WELL AT COURT COMMUNITY? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, NOT, NOT THAT I KNOW OF AS FAR AS THE, THE, UM, SOUND WALL TYPE THINGS THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH GRANTS FOR THAT THEY'RE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOVELY.

THEY GET BUILT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION GETS BUILT, THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THEM AND THEN 15 YEARS LATER THEY NEED MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER.

AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND THE HOAS AND THINGS DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T SAVED MONEY FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

RIGHT.

CAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GRANTS FOR THAT.

I'M, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT TYPE THINGS THAT, BUT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHO OR, OR WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT WORK FOR THAT.

WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.

MAINTENANCE THAT COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THE PERMIT RIGHT.

YEAH.

IF A PER, YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID THOUGH, IF A PER, IF A PERMIT'S REQUIRED, IF IF THEY'RE DOING MAINTENANCE OR DOING SMALL BIT THAT'S MAINTENANCE, THEN THEY COULD PROBABLY JUST DO IT WITHOUT A PERMIT.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S IT.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

QUESTIONS WERE TOO MUCH, I THINK QUESTIONS ARE NOTHING BUT GOOD STUFF.

SO I APPRECIATE IT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

IF YOU THINK OF 'EM, MURIEL CAN CERTAINLY GET AHOLD OF ME AND, UM, WE CAN GET OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I THINK TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE MAYBE BETTER THAN I CAN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SUPER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU INVITING ME.

THANK, THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'VE FOUND OUT THAT IT'S PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING THAT SHOULD BE WORKING ON THE, FOR THE SAME GOAL THAT I'LL, I'LL START WORKING ON THAT TOMORROW.

BUT THOSE GREAT QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, TO, TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER GARLAND NEEDS TO REQUIRE THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO SHOW PROOF OF INSURANCE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, AND, AND I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH ON THE, THE SOLE REMEDIATION.

YES.

YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO TEST THAT.

CAUSE IF NOT, IT'S GONNA GET STUCK TO TAXPAYERS.

YES.

EVENTUALLY, RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE GONNA BE CLEANING THAT STUFF.

YEAH.

IF, IF YOU GUYS WANNA MAKE THAT AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND YES.

ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT THEN THAT'S WITH THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, CAN YOU PUT THAT ON AN AGENDA, PLEASE? YES.

CAN WE? YES.

YEAH, YOU'RE, YEAH.

YES.

SO FOR, UM, NEXT, UM, IS, UM, YOU KNOW WHO ? THAT'S YOU BETTY.

OKEY DOKIE.

I'M WRITING.

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UH, ME TOO.

I'M READING.

YOU'RE READING.

OKAY.

WELL, RIGHT NOW, UM, ALWAYS IN THE, THIS TIME OF YEAR THINGS WERE KIND OF SLOW.

BUT, UH, LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, DAVID PARISH CONTACTED ME AND HE SAID, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE CLEANING OUT AT SPRING CREEK.

THEY'RE LIKE FIVE PEOPLE IN SIX GARBAGE BAGS.

YOU WANT TO COUNT THEM IN YOUR IN YOUR TOTAL.

AND I SAID, SURE, I'LL TAKE ANY, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A GROUP OF, UH, STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE WORKING THIS WEEKEND.

AND I SAY, I SUPPLY ALL THE, ALL THE NEEDS.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE, UM, GRABBERS AND GLOVES AND TRASH BAGS.

AND UH, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL, LIKE THE DEAN FAMILY MY OWN INDIVIDUAL CLEANUP, UH, I, I HAVE ALL THAT STUFF IN MY GARAGE JUST HANDY.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL ME AND I'LL PULL IT OUT.

AND I'M ALWAYS GLAD WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT.

AND SHE GIVES GLOVES.

OH, AND THE GLOVES ARE NICE.

GLOVES.

OH, THEY'RE NOT YOUR REGULAR LITTLE VINYL SINGLE USE GLOVES.

THESE ARE NICE GARDEN GLOVES.

SO IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN UP JUST FOR THE GLOVES, , YOU CAN DO THAT.

UH, AND THEN FRIDAY, DAY AFTER TOMORROW, FRIDAY IS THE, UH, TREE GIVEAWAY.

AND I HEARD TODAY THAT ALL OF THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED UP FOR.

AND SO IF YOU WILL GO ONLINE TO, WELL, ACTUALLY YOU CAN GO ON, ON FACEBOOK FOR KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL.

AND THERE'S A WAY TO SIGN UP ON THROUGH THEM OR I THINK PARKS, MAYBE THE PARKS WEBSITE, MAYBE? UH, NO GOING THROUGH PARKS? NO, THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT THING.

IT'S THROUGH RETREAT.

OH, RETREAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE, IF YOU ON FACEBOOK AND YOU GO TO THE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL FACEBOOK, THERE'S A PLACE ON THERE, YOU HAVE TO GO SIGN UP THROUGH RETREAT, BUT IT'S GOT THE, UM, THE ADDRESS TO GO TO SEE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

AND SO TODAY WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING, HE, UM, GRADY SAID, TELL PEOPLE THERE ARE STILL TREES AND YOU CAN GET ONE TREE AND THERE ARE 15 GALLON TREES.

AND UM, UH, THE MAGNOLIAS ARE ALL GONE.

THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN SIGNED UP AND THE CHIN, PEN, WHATEVER, CHIN, PEN, WHATEVER OAKS HAVE ALL BEEN SIGNED UP FOR, THEY STILL HAVE, UM, CYPRUS, BALD CYPRUS, AND THE MONTEREY OAK THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE.

UH, AND SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EITHER OF THOSE, YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND REGISTER.

THE PICKUP PLACE SPOT IS, UH, 1200 MARION DRIVE.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE MARION DRIVE IS? IT'S, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE HAT FACTORY IS ON, UM, FOREST LINE? AND MARION IS WHERE THAT THE HAT FACTORY IS.

AND THIS IS ALL JUST STALL.

IT JUST ALL, WELL IT'S CALLED HATCO NOW.

UM, IT'S, AND SO THE PICKUP PLACE IS JUST ALMOST ACROSS THE ROAD ON MARION, UH, TO PICK UP.

AND THE TREES WILL BE THERE AT NINE O'CLOCK, UH, FRIDAY MORNING AND PEOPLE CAN START PICKING THEM UP AT 12.

AND THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR OWN.

THEY ARE NOT DELIVERED, BUT YOU GET A TREE AND A BAG OF MULCH, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, UH, DONATED BY LIVING EARTH.

SO IT'S GOOD STUFF IF YOU, UH, WANT THAT.

AND, UM, THERE'LL BE PEOPLE THERE TO HELP LOAD THE TREES.

15 GALLONS IS PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

IT WEIGHS A LOT.

SO THERE'LL BE PEOPLE HELPING WITH THAT.

ARE THEY GIVING INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW FAR TO PLANT IT FROM YOUR HOUSE? YEAH, THEY WILL.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO.

AND IN FACT, UM, I WILL, THEY SAID THEY'LL START THAT TOMORROW AND SEND THOSE TO PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR THE TREES.

THEY'LL SEND OUT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS AND THEY WILL BE, NOT NECESSARILY TOMORROW, BUT IN TWO WEEKS, THEY'RE GONNA SEND OUT NOTICES TO PEOPLE AND SAY, HOW'S IT GOING? THERE'S YOUR TREES PLANTED, WHAT DO YOU NEED? BUT THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING OUT TOMORROW.

UM, BUT THOSE WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM 12 TO FIVE AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT REGISTERED MAY COME BY AND IF THERE ARE TREES AVAILABLE, THEY CAN REGISTER.

SO IF YOU GET THERE AT 12 AND ONLY, WE HAVE 150 TREES AND WE'LL SAY, IF ONLY A HUNDRED HAVE BEEN SIGNED FOR

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YOU, PUT YOUR NAME DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN GET A TREE.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND I WILL BE THERE ALONG WITH THREE OTHER PEOPLE FROM CAPE TWO, OTHER PEOPLE FROM CAPE GARDEN.

BEAUTIFUL.

AND WE WILL BE HELPING PEOPLE.

WE'LL CHECK TO SEE THAT PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED.

IF THEY NEED TO REGISTER, WE'LL GET, GIVE THEM A LITTLE CARD THAT SAID, YOU SIGNED UP FOR A MAGNOLIA.

HERE'S YOUR CARD.

GO OVER THERE WHERE THE MAGNOLIAS ARE AND THE GUYS WILL PULL YOURS OUT FOR YOU.

THAT'S HOW PEOPLE WILL BE SURE.

AND GET THE RIGHT TREE, YOU KNOW.

UH, SO, UH, THEY'RE HOPING THERE WON'T BE ANY LEFT.

SO I MEAN THERE, OH, THIS IS A JOINT EFFORT WITH, UH, KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL AND STATE FARM AND THIS, THIS, UH, UH, GUY GRADY, WHO IS, WHO STARTED RETREAT, WHO IS NOW ON THE BOARD WITH, UH, KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.

AND I'M GONNA, I'M REALLY PLEASED ABOUT THIS NEXT THING HE TOLD ME THAT WE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY DUES.

OH, THAT'S NICE.

IT IS NICE WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THE DUES ARE $425 , MAYBE UP TO FOUR 50 BY NOW.

AND THEY DON'T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE OR HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE WORKING FOR YOU.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY DECIDE HOW MUCH THE DUES ARE.

AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD THAT MUCH MONEY JUST SITTING AROUND.

I WAS GONNA SAY THAT $400 WOULD CLEAN US OUT, JUST ABOUT CLEAN US OUT.

UH, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.

AND GRADY, HIS NAME IS GRADY MAC MAHAN AND HE IS ON THE BOARD AND HE TOLD HIM HOW MUCH ACTIVITY GOES ON IN GARLAND AND HOW GOOD PEOPLE FROM CAPE GOING AND BEAUTIFUL ARE ABOUT ORGANIZING AND WORKING.

AND HE GOT THAT FIRST, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.

SO I'M REALLY PLEASED.

YEAH.

HOW DO WE SIGN UP FOR THE TREE? FOR THE TREE? YEAH.

YOU GO ONLINE TO THE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL FACEBOOK AND IT WILL COME UP AND YOU WILL GET A LINK.

YOU WILL GO THROUGH THERE AND GET A LINK TO RETREAT.

OKAY.

IT'LL BE ON THERE.

IT'LL TELL YOU OKAY.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

OH MAN.

BUT YOU HAVE TO GO ON THE FACEBOOK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LISTED WITH PARKS, ALTHOUGH PARKS IS HELPING US.

UH, THEY'RE NOT SUPPLYING THE TREES.

THEY DO HAVE PEOPLE OUT.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE HELPING UNLOAD THE TREES OR HELP PEOPLE GET 'EM UNLOADED AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT, UM, I CAN SEND YOU GUYS A, I JUST FOUND IT.

I CAN SEND YOU, YOU JUST FOUND IT GOOD .

YEAH, I, I AM, I AM NOT ON FACEBOOK, SO I COULDN'T FIND IT.

I'M NOT ON FACEBOOK.

I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU GUYS TOMORROW.

YEAH, I HAVE IT ALL.

I HAVE TO, I MEAN, I HAVE A DIRECT ONE ON MY PHONE.

I COULD HAVE, IF I'D WORKED AT IT HARD ENOUGH, I PROBABLY COULD HAVE FOUND IT.

YEAH.

BUT I JUST KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO IT.

IT'S A FREE, WE DON'T HAVE HOW TO PAY THAT ONE.

THEY, NO, NO, NO.

THESE ARE FREE.

JUST A BUNCH OF PICTURES.

ARE YOU ON THAT? YEAH.

ON KI ON THE FACEBOOK? I DON'T PARDON? RESIDENCE ONLY, I'M ASSUMING BETTY.

HUH? IS IT ONLY FOR GARLAND RESIDENCE OR ANY, ANYBODY? YES.

OKAY.

JUST FOR GARLAND RESIDENCE.

AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE WILLIAMS ADDITION THAT GOT HIT WITH THE, UH, TORNADO.

BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET, THEY DIDN'T WANT 150 TREES NO.

FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR 150 TREES.

THEY'VE OPENED IT UP TO EVERYBODY.

AND WE WERE TOLD TODAY, TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE.

SO WHAT OTHER TREES ARE WE ON? MAGNOLIA.

AND WHAT? UH, WELL YOU CAN'T GET MAGNOLIA.

THEY'RE SOLD OUT, OR THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

THE CHINI PIN AND THE MONTEREY OAK? NO, THE, THE, THE MONTEREY OAK AND THE BALL CYPRUS ARE STILL AVAILABLE.

OH, THE CHIN IS NOT AVAILABLE.

UHUH, THEY'RE ALL GONE RETREAT.ORG.

SO, UH, IF YOU'RE, AND EVEN ME IF YOU DON'T SIGN UP, IF YOU SHOW UP AT 12 O'CLOCK FRIDAY, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT, THERE MIGHT STILL BE SOME AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF BOLTS.

SO THE ADDRESS IS 1200 MARINE DRIVE.

PARDON? ADDRESS IS 1200 MARINE DRIVE, GARLAND UHHUH 1200 MARIN DRIVE.

AND EVEN IF THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ADDRESS, YOU SURELY CAN FIND ALL THOSE TREES STANDING UP THERE.

YOU KNOW, , YOU CAN FOLLOW, YOU CAN FOLLOW THE FOREST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY REPORT FOR KEEP GOING.

BEAUTIFUL.

AND NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYBODY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ACHIEVEMENT YET.

AND KEN'S NOT HERE, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT? THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING VERY MUCH.

RIGHT? RIGHT NOW.

SPRING

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CREEK WORK SESSION IS SATURDAY.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED FOR SOME COMMUNITY SERVICE, YOU WANT TO PLUG THE NEXT MONTH'S DROUGHT, LILLY WALK, I'LL WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH, BUT I CAN DO THERE.

MM-HMM.

, UH, FEBRUARY IS THE, IS THE ANNUAL TROUT LILLY ROCK, TROUT LILLY WALK AT SPRING CREEK PRESERVE.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN AFTER IT.

SO THE, THE TROUT LIL'S ONE OF THE FIRST FLOWERS IN THE SPRING TO COME UP.

AND IT'S GIVEN THAT NAME BECAUSE IT LEAVES LOOK LIKE THE, THE, THE SKIN OF A TROUT.

UM, BOB, COULD YOU ADD HERITAGE TREES TO THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH? YES.

AND I ALSO HAVE, UM, IN TERMS OF NON WELL FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I HAVE A LOCAL RECYCLING COMPANY THAT IS WILLING TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT METAL RECYCLING AND WHERE IT GOES AND HOW THEY DO IT AND ALL THAT.

IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT THAT.

AND WHO IS THIS LOCAL COMPANY? GEOME? PROBABLY SOMEBODY YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF, BUT THAT'LL BE OKAY.

UM, THEY'RE, UH, UM, 40 YEARS THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT.

THIS IS THE, WHERE DO THEY LOOK AT YOU? THIRD GENERATION WHERE GARLAND STEEL USED TO BE.

OKAY.

I KNOW THAT YOU ASK TO BRING A SOIL SAMPLE WITH THEM.

, THEY, THEY CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THAT , YOU KNOW, BUT, UM,