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OKAY, LET'S GO.

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THANK YOU.

[Community Services Committee on February 7, 2023.]

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, IT IS 4:00 PM ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023.

THIS IS A MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.

UH, I AM DEBORAH MORRIS, THE CHAIR AND WITH ME ARE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, ED MOORE AND MARGARET LUCK, AND A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS WHO WILL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS, UM, THEY GIVE TESTIMONY.

UM, SO ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 10TH, 2023 MEETING.

UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GLANCE OVER THEM AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES, AND I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 10TH, 2023 MEETING.

OKAY.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE A HAND.

IT THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE OR COMMENT CARDS OF ANY KIND? OKAY.

MOVING ON.

UH, COMMITTEE, NORMALLY WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING ITEM THREE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY AC REQUIREMENTS, BUT AT STAFF REQUEST, WE ARE MOVING ITEM FIVE, UM, FORWARD TO THIS POSITION.

SO WE WILL HEAR THEM NEXT.

WE'VE GOT CRYSTAL AND SCOTT HERE, AND LET US HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON, UM, COMMITTEE.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, I KNOW THAT THE FOCUS TODAY IS ON THE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR, OR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS FOR SPEED HUMS, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF WHERE WE LEFT, UH, THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE STAFF HAS NOT IMPLEMENTED THESE ITEMS THAT I'M GETTING READY TO TELL YOU ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT FINAL WORD FROM COUNCIL THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANTED TO MOVE.

SO IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD AGREED THAT WE COULD, UM, OFFER AN ADDITIONAL 25% OFF THE SPEED HUMPS.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 50 50, AND WE WERE GOING TO OFFER AN ADDITIONAL 25% OFF FOR AREAS THAT HAD BEEN DESIGNATED S C D B G AREAS.

THAT WAS ONE.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING, UM, UNDER A CURRENT PROCESS, UH, THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO GO OUT AND COLLECT THE SIGNATURES.

AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE RESIDENTS HAVING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR, COLLECT THOSE SIGNATURES, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THEIR, TO THEIR, UM, TO THEIR NEIGHBORS TO GET THOSE SIGNATURES.

SO STAFF HAD AGREED THAT WE WOULD, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WOULD SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, SIGN THOSE LETTERS AND SEND THEM BACK TO THE CITY.

SO THOSE WERE THE TWO PROCESSES OR PROCESS CHANGES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING.

AND THEN AS FAR AS FUNDING, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANTS, I BELIEVE, AND SCOTT IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SCOTT BOLLINGER, NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES MANAGER.

UM, THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR BEING FLEXIBLE THIS AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR, UH, BEING FLEXIBLE TO THE AFFECTED STAFF.

I OWE Y'ALL ONE.

UM, I SPOKE WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS ON THIS ISSUE.

UH, SOUNDS LIKE MS. OWENS AND HER GROUP, AND Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK ON IT.

UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON, OR, OR SOME REMAINING ISSUES WITH REGARDS SPECIFICALLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT.

UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT THE CURRENT GUIDELINES, AND THIS HAS BEEN TRUE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM, THAT APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO NEIGHBORHOOD-BASED GROUPS.

SO THIS WOULD BE VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS, MANDATORY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND CRIME WATCHES THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND.

SO, UM, IF YOU HAD A, HAD AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT COULD BE A BARRIER, I COULD SEE TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MAYBE WOULD WANT TO ACCESS SOME OF THESE FUNDS IF THEY DON'T ALREADY LIVE IN A PLACE WITH ONE OF THOSE THINGS, UM, UH, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON THEIR ASSOCIATION ISN'T INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR IT, THAT COULD BE ONE BARRIER.

WITH REGARD TO USING THE MATCHING GRANT FOR, UH, THE FUNDING PART OF IT, UM, I FEEL LIKE I ALSO NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT ALTHOUGH THE COST WOULD BE COVERED 100% WITH VOLUNTARY GROUPS, UH, HOAS UNDER THE MATCHING GRANT ARE STILL ALLOWED TO APPLY.

AND IF THESE COSTS, THEY WOULD BE COVERED AT 90%.

UH, THE HOA ONLY FUNDING 10%, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES, UH, AT THE, AT THE COST THAT I, THAT I, THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING.

SO IF IT'S FOR EXAMPLE, $1,400 PROJECT, THEN UH, THEN THE, THEN AN HOA THAT MEETS ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED TO PAY $140 TO GET THE SAME THING THAT, UM, VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION WOULD BE COVERED AT 100%.

THE CURRENT GUIDELINES DON'T ALLOW FOR SPEED HUMPS.

UM, SO THE GUIDELINES WOULD, WOULD NEED TO, SOMEONE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE.

AND AS FAR AS OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, I GUESS THE, THE TERM IS THEY'RE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THE CURRENT GUIDELINES.

UM, SO ANYTHING, ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THAT?

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UH, IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR NORMAL EVALUATION PROCESS.

I ASSUME THE, UM, THE LETTER OF INTENT, UM, THE, WHICH THE COMMITTEE SEES THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT, THE APPLICATION PERIOD, WHICH THE COMMITTEE SEES THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT ONTO FULL COUNSEL.

SO, UM, ANYTHING ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE, UM, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER WOULD BE INVOLVED, UM, IN MS. OWEN'S GROUP WOULD BE, UM, WOULD, WOULD STUDY THOSE SOLUTIONS.

UM, SO THERE MAY BE SOME KIND OF TIMING OR CAPACITY IMPACT WITH REGARD TO THAT, NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE TODAY PERSONALLY.

UM, SO THAT, THOSE, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF AS FAR AS USING THE MATCHING GRANT AS YOUR, AS A POTENTIAL FUNDING SOLUTION.

OKAY.

AND, AND BEFORE I, UM, BEFORE I CALL ON COMMITTEE MEMBERS, JUST FOR ONE FACTUAL THING, UH, SCOTT, CAN YOU REMIND US WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GUIDELINES CHANGE TO EXCLUDE SPEED HOMES? BECAUSE THEY USED TO BE COVERED.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT CHANGED IN 2015.

I, I, I WANNA SAY IT WAS MAY, SOMETIME AROUND THERE SUMMER MAYBE OF 2015.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.

SCOTT MENTIONED, UM, OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES.

MM-HMM.

AND THERE ARE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES OUT THERE.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE, THE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES SUCH AS CHICANES OR CHOKE DOWNS OR NARROWING OF STREETS, THOSE ARE NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL LIKE A SPEED HOME.

RIGHT.

SO THOSE ARE ON A CASE BY CASE.

IT'S VERY DETAILED TO THE AREA.

MM-HMM.

, IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH.

IT DEPENDS, I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO DESIGNING THAT, THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

SO THE COST WOULD BE EXPONENTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR SPEED HUMPS.

OKAY.

AND I BELIEVE THE REFERRAL TO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SPECIFICALLY SPEED HUMPS NARROWING THAT.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, TECHNICALLY UNDER THE CATEGORY OF HOW THIS ENDED UP BEING LISTED, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT.

UM, AND COMMITTEE, IT WILL BE UP TO US AS A, A GROUP.

BUT, UH, SINCE THE ORIGINAL REFERRAL WAS SPECIFIC TO STREET HUMS, I WOULD RATHER NARROW THIS TO JUST DISCUSS THAT.

SO, UM, DID EITHER OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE OKAY.

COMMITTEE, MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD.

UM, SO I'M CURIOUS IF STREET HUMPS IS ONLY, WE ONLY ALLOW AN ACTUAL LIKE ASPHALT OR CEMENT INSTALLATION THAT IS AN ACTUAL HUMP.

ARE THERE OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO STREET HUMPS OR, UM, IS THAT EVEN A CONSIDERATION? THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE RAISED CROSSWALKS? WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE SO PERMANENT.

UM, SO THEY'RE, AND ALSO DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREET HUMS. THEY'RE THE KIND THAT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THEN THEY HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, WHICH IS A, UM, SPLIT SPLIT.

AND THEN I'VE ALSO SEEN OTHER FORMS OF STREET HUMPS THAT AREN'T, AREN'T NECESSARILY HUMPS, BUT THEY'RE JUST RAISED, UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THEM, THE, THE LITTLE DIVIDERS THAT SEPARATE LANES ON A ROAD.

THE, THE RAMBLE STRIPS.

YEAH.

KIND OF LIKE IT MOSTLY MAKES A SOUND MORE THAN, SO I HAVE PUT IN SEVERAL OF THOSE AND TAKEN THEM OUT.

OKAY.

JUST AS AN FYI, BECAUSE THEY MAKE SO MUCH NOISE, UM, THAT USUALLY YOU WILL GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES RIGHT AROUND THAT AREA.

THEY ARE SUPER LOUD DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE THAT'S GOING OVER THEM.

OKAY.

SO THEN WHAT ABOUT, UM, THE MORE PERMANENT INSTALLATION? ARE THERE OPTIONS FOR THAT OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT ONE PARTICULAR KIND? UM, THAT HAS A, THIS, I WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SPLIT HUMPS RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? RIGHT NOW, YES.

THAT'S WHAT WE OFFER.

UM, IS THERE A COST DIFFERENCE IF WE OFFER DIFFERENT KINDS OF HUMPS AND COULD THAT BENEFIT PEOPLE IN ANY WAY? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK INTO.

AND I ALSO NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT OUR SPECIFICATIONS CALL FOR.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M JUST, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON THAT AND THEN I'M NOT CORRECT ON THE INFORMATION THAT I'M GIVING YOU, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY GET THAT INFORMATION AND SHARE IT WITH YOU AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE IF YOU SO DESIRE.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OPTIONS JUST, AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY AFFECT THE PRICE, UM, OR THE EXPENSE.

SO YES, THANK YOU.

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AND I CAN ALSO FORWARD TO YOU, I'VE HAD LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH PAUL LUKI MM-HMM.

ABOUT THIS, EXPLORING THE SAME THING.

AND I CAN GO BACK AND FIND, UH, FIND OUT HIS POINT WITH RUMBLE STRIPS ARE PEOPLE HATE THEM.

YOU DON'T WANNA PUT THEM IN, YOU'RE GONNA GET NONSTOP COMPLAINTS CUZ THEY'RE LOUD.

BUT I ALSO ASKED HIM ARE THERE ANY TEMPORARY, LIKE RUBBERIZED THINGS WE CAN PUT DOWN, CHANGE PEOPLE'S HABITS AND TAKE 'EM UP.

SO I'LL FIND THAT AND FORWARD THAT TO YOU AS, AS WELL AS WHATEVER, UM, CRYSTAL'S ABLE TO LOCATE.

WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? BECAUSE I WASN'T, I'M REALLY JUST NOT RUBBERIZED OPTIONS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING ON THE STREET.

UM, I, I REALIZE THAT INSTALLING A ROUNDABOUT OR THE OTHER, UM, OPTIONS THAT YOU SPOKE OF EARLIER ARE, ARE OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF OUR DISCUSSION NOW.

SO, UM, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS FOR STREET HUMPS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE PRICE AND MAYBE THE PERMANENCE OF THE HUMP ITSELF.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS? BOTH.

OKAY.

TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT.

JUST WHAT ARE OPTIONS ARE? UM, I'D LIKE, I LIKE OPTIONS.

NO WORRIES.

CHOICES.

, I WILL FORWARD YOU THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

STRING.

UM, MR. MOORE, DID YOU HAVE YES.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I I, I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.

UH, INITIALLY YOU STATED THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT SURE COSTS THE FINANCIAL ASPECT.

ARE WE DEALING WITH, UH, THE, THE COST AND WHAT THE, THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO PAY? AND I, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS VOLUNTARY GROUPS, WHAT THAT KIND OF CONSISTS OF.

BUT ARE WE TODAY, UH, LOOKING AT THE COST OR ARE WE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OR ARE THEY TOGETHER? THIS IS FUNDING? YES, THIS IS FUNDING.

IT'S FUNDING, RIGHT.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING, I'M, I'M THINKING THAT REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE THAT WE CHOOSE, WE WOULD STILL GO WITH AN 80 20 OR A 90 10 OR OF COURSE IT, IT'D BE MORE IF WE DO SOME OTHER TYPES, IT COULD BE MORE, BUT WOULD IT STILL BE THE SAME FORMULA THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DECIDE AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY 80 20 OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

IT CAN BE ANYTHING WE DECIDE IT WILL BE.

OKAY.

SO, BUT IT WAS 90, 90% OF THAT WHAT I HEARD IT WAS 50 50.

IT WAS 50 50.

YES, IT IS RIGHT NOW.

50 50 YOUR FINE.

OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

WHERE DID I HEAR 90% AL WHO WAS THAT? I, I MENTIONED THAT AS UNDER SPECIFICALLY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT PROJECTS UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES, UH, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER $10,000, HOAS GET 90% OF THAT COST COVERED FOR ANY PROJECT THAT COMES IN, IN THE MATCHING GRANT.

BUT HUMPS ARE NOT CURRENTLY NOT CURRENT.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UM, AND, AND COMMITTEE I DID, I DID HAVE A BRIEF, UH, TRYING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE GROUND THAT THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE, UM, HAD DISCUSSED ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK HERE.

I, I'LL JUST TELL YOU MY THOUGHTS.

THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANTS, I WATCHED THAT WORK LONG BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL.

I WATCHED IT WORK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN FACT THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO ORGANIZE INTO A VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION.

SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS CITY DO.

IT DOESN'T COST THEM ANYTHING, IT OPENS UP THE WORLD TO THEM WITH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, IF THEY ARE A VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION, THEY CAN GET $10,000 A YEAR IN LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT MATCHING GRANTS.

I WANT THEM TO ORGANIZE.

THEY HAVE HAD TO ORGANIZE TO SOME EXTENT TO GET THE SIGNATURES REQUIRED FOR THESE HUMPS IN THE PAST.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO ORGANIZE TO START WITH IS THE NEED FOR SPEED HUMS. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH HAVING THAT BE ONE OF OUR OPTIONS.

UM, PUTTING IT BACK IN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, UH, LETTING, LETTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT REALLY WANT SPEED HUMPS ORGANIZE AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND IF THEY QUALIFY WITH THE STREET TYPE OF STREET, LET THEM APPLY AND LET THEM GET, UH, APPROVED OR DENIED THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESSES.

UM, NOT TAKING AWAY FROM OUR OTHER OPTION OF THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, IF IT MAY BE, IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S, OR EVEN AN HOA THAT, UM, IS NOT INTERESTED IN SPEED HUMS, I, I DON'T, HMM, LET ME ASK THIS.

IF THERE'S AN HOA AND THE BOARD

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SAYS NO TO A, UH, A RESIDENCE'S DESIRE TO HAVE A SPEED HUMP ON A STREET, THEY DON'T CONTROL OUR STREETS.

OKAY.

SO AN INDIVIDUAL THERE COULD STILL, IF, IF THEY COULD GET 80% OF THEIR WITHIN A BLOCK, THEY COULD GO OVER THE HEAD OF THE HOA.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I LIKE THE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL 25% OFF OF CDBG AREAS.

IF WE OFFER A MENU, IT CAN FIT A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIZENS.

MM-HMM.

, IF THEY WANT TO ORGANIZE, THEY CAN ORGANIZE AND THEY CAN GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.

IF THEY WANT TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN AND THEY'RE IN A CDBG AREA, THEN THEY CAN APPLY.

WE CAN SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS.

I'M ALL IN ON THAT.

NO KNOCKING DOOR TO DOOR WITH STRANGERS.

IT MIGHT BE SCARY .

UM, AND JUST A POINT ON THE CERTIFIED LETTERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH PAUL LUKI, THOSE LETTERS WOULD NOT SAY YOU ARE GOING TO OWE MONEY IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS.

THIS IS JUST, DO YOU WANT IT? OKAY.

SO, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL IN A CDBG NEIGHBORHOOD COULD APPLY, HAVE THOSE LETTERS GO OUT AND THEY WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, SO IT WOULD BE, I, WE WOULD PAY 75% INSTEAD OF 50%.

SO THERE WOULD STILL BE A COST AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH UNLESS THEY ORGANIZED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S OKAY TOO.

PEOPLE HAVE CHOICES.

SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE DO ALL OF IT, PUT IT BACK AS A, UH, REVERSE THE DECISION FROM 2015 THAT EXCLUDED STREET HUMS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, PUT IT BACK IN THERE AS AN OPTION.

UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ORGANIZE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE SAME PROCESSES.

UM, ALSO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL 25% OFF FOR CDBG AREAS, UM, AND INCLUDE THE CERTIFIED LETTERS INSTEAD OF DOOR KNOCKING.

UM, AM I MISSING ANYTHING ELSE IF WE OFFERED THOSE AS OPTIONS COMMITTEE? DO YOU, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHO THAT MISSES.

UM, I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME WANTING SPEED HOMES.

ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE FROM MY SMALL POOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY JUST FEEL BESIEGED.

THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD 25%.

SO A LOT OF THEM WOULD NEED TO ORGANIZE.

OH WELL THEY NEED TO ORGANIZE MM-HMM.

.

SO, UM, AND WE WILL HELP THEM.

I WILL HELP THEM.

SCOTT HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT HELPING THEM.

I'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, IN, IN NORTH GARLAND.

CAMELOT HAS ACTUALLY COME IN AT MY REQUEST AND HELPED SOME OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS ORGANIZE.

SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE, WE CAN HELP, WE WILL HELP, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE PERSONALLY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US TAKE THAT ROUTE.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS YES, WE WANT OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY IF, IF IN FACT THEY WANT OUR HOUSE SPEED BUMPS IN THE AREA TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO SO AND SO, YES, I AGREE TOTALLY AS DO I.

OKAY.

DOES THAT GIVE ENOUGH DIRECTION? DO YOU ALL SEE ANY HOLES WITH THAT? UH, ONE THING I WOULD NEED TO, UM, WORK OUT WITH, WITH MS. OWENS GROUP IS, UM, THE, THE, THE PROCESS AND HOW MUCH TIME IS NEEDED TO ORGANIZE SOME OF THAT.

I, I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE, UH, LETTER, FOR EXAMPLE, LETTER OF INTENT, UH, THE NEXT ONE'S DUE MARCH 23RD AND THE, I'M SORRY, UM, THE NEXT ONE IS DUE, UH, JULY 23RD AND THE APPLICATION WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 23RD.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, A KIND OF A SMALLISH WINDOW TO START THE PROCESS IF THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF IT.

THE LETTER OF INTENSE, WE NEED SPEED HUMPS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE THEY NEED.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE 60 DAYS, IT'S ALSO GETTING THEM FEEDBACK AHEAD OF TIME SO THEY KNOW WHAT TO PUT IN THE APPLICATION.

SO IT'S EVEN, IT'S EVEN MORE CONDENSED THAN THAT.

AND, UM, HOW THAT MESHES WITH WHAT, WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID IS HOLDING UP THE ENTIRE CYCLE, YOU KNOW, IF POSSIBLE FOR, FOR ONE PROJECT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T BE WORKED OUT, JUST, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS PERSONALLY WELL ENOUGH TO, TO, TO SAY IF THAT'S AN ISSUE TODAY OR NOT.

SO IF, IF WE JUST KEEP THIS AT ITS SIMPLEST, IF, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS SPEED HUMS INSTALLED ON THE STREET AND WE HAVE ALL THIS ON OUR WEBSITE, THIS, THEY LOOK AT THEIR OPTIONS AND SAY, OKAY, WELL I LIKE FREE BEST, LET'S GO WITH FREE.

AND THEY START THE PROCESS.

I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE US,

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UM, LIKE DELAYING THE PROCESS, CHANGING THE PROCESS.

THEY JUMP IN WHENEVER THEY JUMP IN.

IF THEY MISS THAT CYCLE, THEN IT'S THE NEXT CYCLE.

I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THOSE DATES POSTED.

UM, I WOULDN'T WANNA HOLD ANYTHING UP.

UH, BUT, UH, UM, ARE YOU SEEING A REASON THAT THIS WOULD NECESSARILY HOLD ANYTHING UP? I JUST DON'T KNOW.

UH, FORGIVE ME FOR MY IGNORANCE.

UM, I I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO, UM, TO PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK NECESSARY FOR THE APPLICATION.

THAT'S ALL.

IF IT TAKES LONGER THAN 60 DAYS, AGAIN, NO TO NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT SUBMITTED A LETTER OF INTENT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL NEIGHBORS THAT SUBMITTED A LETTER OF INTENT AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO FORWARD WITH ONE OF THEM.

IT WAS, IT'S DELAYING THE, THE ENTIRE CYCLE.

THAT'S ALL.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PROBLEM, IT IT THAT IT IS A PROBLEM.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT AN ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS IN THIS PROCESS THAT ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

UM, EVEN SO MUCH AS IF WE SEND THE LETTERS OUT AND WE ONLY GET 75%, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF STILL IN A, IN A HOLDING PATTERN.

UM, SO THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS.

IF IT WAS JUST IN OUR, IF IT WAS IN OUR CONTROL WHERE WE, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? APPLICATION OR THE PETITION.

YEAH, YEAH.

IF THEY HAD TO SUBMIT THE PETITION WHERE THEY WENT OUT AND THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SIGNATURES, THEN OUR TIME WOULD START.

THEN AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE WARRANT STUDY AND EVERYTHING FOR THESE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR CONTROL AND OUR TIMELINE ACTUALLY STARTS FROM THE DAY THEY DO THE INQUIRY AT THIS POINT, THEN THAT, THAT KIND OF CHANGES THINGS.

I I THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ON A YEAH.

WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO POLICY WISE, I MEAN WE, I I ASSUME THAT WE COULD, IF, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, VITALITY REQUEST IS IS FOR SPEED HUMS AND THAT CAN, THAT COULD BE MADE A SEPARATE CATEGORY AS A GRANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT SPEED HUMS AND SIGN TOPPERS AND THIS AND THAT.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU BREAK THAT OUT AND SAY BEFORE THIS CAN BE SUBMITTED, THAT PETITION PROCESS HAS TO BE COMPLETE.

I MEAN, AND THIS IS ON THE, YOU ALL ARE BE GONNA BE WAY BETTER.

NEVERMIND.

I WILL BACK OUT OF THAT .

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YOU ALL KNOW YOUR THINGS.

I'M SURE YOU CAN WORK IT OUT GRACEFULLY AND WELL.

SURE.

UM, SO WHAT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO DO IS MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM OR HAVE YOU HOLD UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF GRANT APPLICATIONS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INCOMPLETE.

I'M SURE THERE IS A POLICY AND PROCEDURE THAT YOU ALL COULD COME UP WITH THAT WOULD MAKE THAT WORK WITHOUT CREATING BAD, UM, BACKLOGS.

UM, THE MATCHING GRANT APPLICATION OCCURS TWICE A YEAR, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

SO EVEN IF THEY DID MISS THAT FIRST, UM, APPLICATION, THEY COULD WAIT SIX MONTHS FOR THE NEXT ONE.

UM, AND THAT WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE PETITION AND EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, CERTIFIED LETTERS.

COULD THEY ALSO COLLECT SIGNATURES? SAY IF, IF THEY GOT, IF WHOMEVER, UH, MADE THE REQUEST, GOT A LIST BACK OF WHO DIDN'T ANSWER THE CERTIFIED LETTER PROCESS, COULD THEY GO OUT AND GET THE SIGNATURES ON THEIR OWN AS WELL? SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS WORKS, LET'S ASSUME WE WERE NOT GONNA GO OUT WITH THE CERTIFIED LETTERS.

UM, INITIALLY WE STILL SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS MM-HMM.

EVEN AFTER WE GET THE PETITION IN, UM, TO EVERYONE WHO HAS SIGNED THE PETITION, JUST CONFIRMING THAT THEY ACTUALLY SIGNED THE PETITION.

SO WE'RE KIND OF SKIPPING THAT FIRST PROCESS OF THEM GOING OUT, SIGNING THE, GETTING THE SIGNATURES.

WE'RE JUST GONNA GO STRAIGHT OUT WITH THE CERTIFIED LETTERS FOR ALL WHO ARE AFFECTED.

NOW IF, AND THAT'S AN OPTION, WE WILL STILL GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO GO OUT AND COLLECT SIGNATURES ON THEIR OWN.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NO REASON THAT THEY COULDN'T GO OUT AND COLLECT THE CERTIFIED LETTERS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT'S NECESSARY TO KIND OF NUDGE THEIR NEIGHBORS.

WE WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT THE LETTERS WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE SENT BACK TO US BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE PROCESS EVEN NOW.

SO JUST TO, TO GO OVER THIS AGAIN, LEAVING THE MESSY DETAILS TO THE EXPERT ON STAFF, WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL FIRST THAT STREET HUMS, UM, BE ADDED BACK IN TO, UH, ALLOWED, UM, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANTS.

SECOND, THAT, UM, CERTIFIED LETTERS WOULD BE USED, UM, TO, TO SEND IT OUT RATHER THAN REQUIRING PERSONAL SIGNATURES.

OPTIONAL.

OPTIONAL.

GIVE THEM THE OPTION, YOU'LL

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GIVE THEM THE OPTION OF CERTIFIED LETTERS OR COLLECTING SIGNATURES.

THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THEMSELVES.

WE WILL STILL SEND OUT THE CERTIFIED LETTER, BUT WE WILL GIVE THEM THAT OPTION.

OKAY.

SO OF SKIPPING THE PETITION, BUT IN THE PAST THEY'VE DONE THE PETITION AND WE'VE ONLY SENT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED MM-HMM.

, ARE WE OKAY? RIGHT.

BUT NOW WE WOULD BE SENDING CERTIFIED LETTERS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN THE AREA.

AREA, NOT MENTIONING FUNDING.

JUST SAYING, DO YOU WOULD, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF HAVING? YES.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S A CHANGE FROM BEFORE.

SO WE WOULD NOW SEND OUT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THE WHOLE AREA AND ALSO PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR THEM TO GATHER, UH, PHYSICAL SIGNATURES.

YES.

THEY WOULD THEN BE CONFIRMED BY CERTIFIED LETTERS.

OKAY.

AND THIRD, THAT WE WOULD OFFER FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PROCESS, AN ADDITIONAL 25% OFF IN CDBG AREAS.

SO THE MATCH WOULD BE THE CITY 75%, THE NEIGHBORHOOD 25%.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? YES.

IS THAT CLEAR COMMITTEE ALL IN FAVOR? GIVE ME A THUMBS UP IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE READY TO REPORT THAT OUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK AND SETH KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WHEN YOU REPORT OUT WHAT KIND OF PRESENTATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MORNING, IF ANY.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

AND NOW EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO THEIR PARTY.

.

OKAY.

COMMITTEE, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM THREE.

DISCUSS MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY AC REQUIREMENTS.

AND I BELIEVE BRIAN, WAS THIS YOUR SURE.

I'LL DO IT.

OKAY.

AND, AND COMMITTEE IN FRONT OF YOU, IN YOUR FOLDER YOU HAVE, UM, AN ORDINANCE, A DRAFT ORDINANCE TO LOOK AT.

UM, THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED MR. ENGLAND TO BRING BACK THIS MONTH, UM, THAT INCLUDES OUR AMENDMENT.

SO IF YOU'LL WALK US THROUGH THE THINGS THAT CHANGED THE TWO, THE TWO ITEMS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD ASKED, UM, ME TO CHANGE WERE THE LANGUAGE ON PAGE TWO, UM, D FIVE B.

UM, AND THAT IS THE, UH, AND I'M SORRY, D FIVE A FIRST AND THAT'S THE TEMPERATURE OF 85 DEGREES.

PREVIOUSLY IT WAS AT NOT TO EXCEED A MAXIMUM OF 81 DEGREES FROM MAY ONE THROUGH OCTOBER ONE.

UM, Y'ALL ASKED TO MOVE THAT TO 85.

SO I MADE THAT CHANGE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT ALSO EFFECTIVELY WOULD CHANGE, UM, FIVE B, WHICH MOVES THE TEMPERATURE.

UM, IF THE OUTDOOR AMBIENT TEMPERATURE EXCEEDS 105 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT MM-HMM.

, SO THAT CHANGED TO 105.

SO THAT 20, UM, 20 DEGREE, UM, RANGE REMAINS THE SAME.

AND THEN IF YOU SKIP DOWN TO SUBSECTION C AND DOWN THAT SAME PAGE ALL THROUGH THAT, ALL THROUGH THE SUB, UM, SUBSECTIONS, YOU'LL SEE THE TERM REFRIGERATED AIR UNITS.

MM-HMM.

.

AND AS YOU RECALL, Y'ALL ASKED THAT WE CHANGE, UM, THAT FROM, UM, MOBILE OR TEMPORARY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT I I MADE ALL THOSE CHANGES THROUGHOUT IT AND THOSE WERE THE TWO CHANGES Y'ALL REQUESTED THAT WE MAKE.

OKAY.

MR. ENGLAND ON, UH, C TWO AT THE END, UM, IT HAS AN, WE'VE GOT AN OR BETWEEN ONE AND TWO AND AN AND BETWEEN TWO AND THREE.

SO WE'RE SAYING THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR HOTEL OR MOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS YES.

AND, AND COMMUNITY ROLES THAT ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO PUT 'EM IN THIS BEEN PROHIBITING YOU.

SO, WELL, I GUESS MY MY POINT IS IF WE'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO PUT 'EM IN A HOTEL OR MOTEL, IS THAT RELEVANT THAT THEN THERE'S IS IT IS UNDER THE, UNDER THE ONE CIRCUMSTANCE, IF YOU READ THE LAST SENTENCE ABOUT, UM, UM, IN THE EVENT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS UNABLE TO PROCURE ONE, THEN THE TENANT MAY PROVIDE ONE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

NOW, OF COURSE, THE TENANT WON'T NEED ONE IF, UM, UM, THEY PROCURE A HOTEL ROOM.

SO, OKAY, FOR CLARITY, THAT FIRST SENTENCE TO ME SHOULD BE AT THE END RATHER THAN THE BEGINNING OF NUMBER THREE, JUST, BUT

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YOU'RE THE LAWYER, UM, THAT THE PERMIT, I'M, I'M READING THAT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE EITHER GONNA GIVE THEM AN AIR CONDITIONER OR THEY'RE GONNA PUT THEM UP, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, THAT'S ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THERE, WOULDN'T IT? OR THEY CAN SUPPLY, GET THEIR OWN OR THEY CAN GET THEIR OWN MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

JUST FOR CLARITY OF READING IT AND THE, AND LET'S SEE, THE, AND HERE NOW, WELL, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME TO HAVE IT BE ONE, THEY, THE PROPERTY OWNER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SHALL PROVIDE EACH UNIT WITH A REFRIGERATED AIR UNIT OR SKIPPING TO THE LAST HALF OF THREE.

UM, IN THE EVENT THE PROPERTY OWNER MANAGER, BLAH, BLAH, IS UNABLE TO PROCURE THAT A TENANT MAY PROCURE IT, AND THEN AFTER THAT THE, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SHALL BE REQUIRED TO SUSPEND COMMUNITY RULES.

ANYWAY, I I JUST, IT'S CONFUSING TO ME JUMPING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE THOUGHTS, BUT, UM, I THINK THE JOURNALISTS AND THE ATTORNEY NEED TO WORK THAT OUT.

YEAH, I'LL WORK ON THAT PARAGRAPH.

YEAH.

JUST, I WON'T CHANGE THE SUBSTANCE OF IT, BUT I'LL WORK ON IT.

YEAH.

THE SUBSTANCE IS ALL GOOD.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO LOGICALLY FOLLOW THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

IT, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.

YEAH.

ALL THE WORDS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

I MM-HMM.

, I JUST MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

IT'S JUST THE ORDER.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

COMMITTEE, DOES ANYBODY ELSE SEE ANYTHING IN HERE OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, THAT YOU THINK THAT NUMBER TWO SHOULD COME AT THE VERY END OR WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING SHOULD COME AT THE VERY END OF THIS? IT'S JUST REORDERING.

SO BASICALLY SAYING THE MANAGER HAS TO EITHER PROVIDE A DWELLING UNIT WITH AIR CONDITIONING, RIGHT.

NUMBER ONE.

UM, AND IN THE EVENT THEY CAN'T, THEN THE TENANTS CAN GET A REFRIGERATED AIR UNIT AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE.

AND IF THEY DO THAT, OKAY.

UM, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUIRED TO SUSPEND COMMUNITY RULES PROHIBITING THE USE OF AIR CONDITIONERS IN THE UNITS.

I HAVE THE SOLUTION.

OKAY.

LAST SENTENCE OF, UM, SUBSECTION THREE WOULD BE MOVED UP TO SUBSECTION ONE IN CASE IN THE, AS A UNABLE AS SECOND SENTENCE.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

THAT, THAT SOLVES EVERYTHING.

YEP, THAT'LL SOLVE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

ARE WE, ARE WE HAPPY WITH THIS? YES.

OKAY.

READY TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS RETAIL PET STORE HEALTH INSPECTION RULES.

DID EVERYONE GET, UH, A COPY IN EMAIL OF THIS, UM, OF ART'S POWERPOINT? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO TAKE IT AWAY.

ART.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DREAM PUPPIES AND FIND A PET.

UM, SO I GOT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS HERE FOR DREAM PUPPIES.

SO THEY'RE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND YOU CAN SEE THE HOURS THAT THEY'RE OPEN.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIGGER KENNEL SET UP THAN FIND A PIT.

SO THEY AVERAGE RIGHT AROUND 30 TO 50 PUPPIES.

UM, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 13 EMPLOYEES WITH VARIOUS, UM, UM, HOURS THAT THEY WORK.

SO THEY GOT SEVERAL SHIFTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING CARED FOR FROM THE MORNING UP UNTIL NIGHT.

UH, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A VET TECH ON STAFF, SO IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES THAT HAPPEN, THERE'S A VET TECH THERE TO CARE FOR THEM.

AND IF THEY NEED TO PROVIDE VET CARE, THEY USE UM, PARK MALL ANIMAL CLINIC IN PLANO.

THEY DO HAVE MERCHANDISE, LOTS OF MERCHANDISE.

REALLY? YEAH.

SO THEY GOT CRATES, FOOD, WATER BOWLS, DOG FOOD, LEASHES, SHAMPOO, TOYS, BEDS, YOU NAME IT, THEY GOT IT.

UM, THEY ACCEPT APPOINTMENTS AND WALK-INS AND THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE LAST YEAR.

AND WHILE I WAS THERE, I SPOKE WITH THE GENERAL MANAGER ON SITE.

UM, I'M ALSO IN CONTACT WITH THE ACTUAL OWNER AS WELL.

OKAY.

FIND A PIT SMALL OPERATION.

UM, YOU CAN CHECK THEIR HOURS HERE.

UH, THEY'RE CLOSED ON MONDAY AND TUESDAYS.

UM, SO THEY RECENTLY CHANGED THIS END OF 2021.

UM, THEY WERE BASED OUT OF HOUSTON, SO THEY WERE ON OPEN, OPEN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

THEY WERE

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DRIVING FROM HOUSTON AND BRINGING ANIMALS WITH THEM.

UH, BUT IT'S A HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT WORK THERE.

THEY ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE TO GARLAND SO THEY CAN CARE FOR THE ANIMALS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

UM, SO WHEN THEY ARE CLOSED, SOMEBODY IS THERE CARING FOR THEM, AND IT'S JUST THEM.

THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS HUSBAND AND WIFE.

THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

VET CARE, THEY USE KEERY VETERINARY CLINIC, NO MERCHANDISE.

IT'S A VERY SMALL STORE IN THERE.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2018 AND THEY ACCEPT APPOINTMENTS AND WALK-INS.

SO INSPECTION REPORT.

SO HERE WE HAVE OUR POINT SYSTEM.

SO LEMME KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT WE GOT HERE.

UH, SO WE'LL GO OUT AND WE'LL DETERMINE IF EACH ITEM, UH, IS A, IT'S BASICALLY A PASS OR FAIL, RIGHT? SO IF IT PASSES, WE CIRCLE IT AND THEN WE T IT UP AT THE END AND YOU HAVE TO SCORE AN 80 IN ORDER TO PASS THE INSPECTION.

SO WE HAVE, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE IS AN M AND C, WHICH STANDS FOR MINOR OR CRITICAL.

SO ANY CRITICAL VIOLATION THAT IS NOTED HAS TO BE CORRECTED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

ANY MINOR VIOLATION HAS TO BE CORRECTED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INSPECTION PROCESS, EVEN THOUGH THEY SCORE AN 80 AND THEY PASS, WE'RE STILL GONNA FOLLOW UP WITHIN 24 HOURS IF THERE'S A CRITICAL VIOLATION.

AND THEN SEVEN DAYS.

SO REALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THEY SCORE A HUNDRED BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE, AND THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE 80 POINTS IS IF THEY SCORE LESS THAN AN 80 OR A 70 OR 60, WE GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM.

AND SO I WANTED IT RIGHT AT 80.

I THINK WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH ANIMALS.

UM, NOW IF THEY DO FAIL TWICE WITHIN ONE YEAR, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT REVOKING THE PERMIT.

UM, AND THEN I HAVE, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT AS WELL.

A POLICY THAT IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON HOW THEY HAVE THEIR POLICY.

UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY TWO FELD INSPECTIONS WITHIN ONE YEAR, UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR REGULATIONS.

UM, OVERALL UNSANITARY CONDITIONS AND IN ANY KIND OF OUTBREAK OR ILLNESS IN DOGS AND PROPER SANITIZING, UM, YOU KNOW, INJURED SICK ANIMALS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

OH, QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, THE TWO PET STORES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, DIDN'T YOUR UM, OFFICERS GO THERE AND NO ONE WAS THERE SEVERAL TIMES FOR COUPLE OF MONTHS IN A ROW? YEAH, THEY DID.

I WAS ABLE TO CONTACT HER, SHOWED UP, WALKED RIGHT IN.

AND I WILL SAY BOTH PET STORES WERE VERY NICE.

THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH ME IN ANY WAY.

I SPOKE WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS AND THEN MEETING THEM WITH THEM AND THEY WERE ALL FOR IT.

UM, HAD NO PROBLEMS THERE.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS THEY'RE AT THE LOCATIONS MORE OFTEN NOW? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

AND THE, THE CLOSURE POLICY HERE, THIS, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS NEW BECAUSE THIS WASN'T IN PLACE BEFORE.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? YES, CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, AND BEFORE YOUR SCORING SYSTEM, UM, BEFORE YOU HAD JUST SAID IT WAS PASS OR FAILED, BUT YOU DO HAVE NOW A NUMERICAL SCORE.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S ALSO NEW? YES.

OKAY.

UM, AND IF THEY WERE TO BE CLOSED IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

IF THEY ARE, UM, ONLY SELLING PETS AND THEY, UM, HAVE THE, THE TWO STRIKES EQUALS THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT, UM, THEN THE, THE CLOSURE WOULD BE OF THE STORE IF THEY ONLY SELL PETS, BUT IF THEY ARE LIKE DREAM PUPPIES AND SELLING MERCHANDISE AS WELL, THEY WOULD JUST, UH, LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO SELL ANIMALS ANYMORE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND WE CAN, WE HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND NUMBERS OF INSPECTIONS OVER A 12 YEAR PERIOD MM-HMM.

, UM, BOTH ANNOUNCED AND UNANNOUNCED, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE BEFORE THEIR, THEIR, IT WAS A ONE TIME ANNUAL INSPECTION AND I SEE NOW IT'S, UM, SOMEWHERE, SO WE HAVE FOUR, SO YOU HAVE FOUR UNANNOUNCED, UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE SCHEDULED INSPECTIONS IF WE NEED TO DO THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, ONE OF

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THE THINGS THAT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN L LUCK HAD ASKED ABOUT WAS A TIMELINE FOR ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT YOU FIND.

SO IS THAT THE SEVEN DAYS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WENT OVER HERE WITH? SORRY, I'M ON THE WRONG PAGE.

UM, MINOR AND CRITICAL.

YES.

DOES THAT SATISFY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WERE? YES.

OKAY.

I LIKE IT.

ME TOO.

UM, THE COMMITTEE, IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANNA SEEM LIKE HE'S ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS AND MM-HMM.

THAT FOUR IS QUARTER, SO I ANNOUNCE INSPECTIONS FOR YEAH.

AND THE NUMBERS, I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY DO EQUAL UP TO 80 OR A HUNDRED? A HUNDRED.

A HUNDRED, OKAY.

80 POINTS AND ABOVE AS A PASS.

ANYTHING BELOW THAT? YES.

HOW ABOUT, OKAY, AND, AND JUST ONE QUESTION WITH THAT.

THE, IF, IF THEY SCORE LESS THAN 80, WHICH IS, IS FAILING, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE WE GIVE 'EM SEVEN DAYS AND WE NUDGE 'EM UP OVER THE LINE AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

IF IT'S THE FIRST INSPECTION, THEY'RE LESS THAN 80.

THAT COUNTS AS A FAIL.

IT IS.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

JUST MAKING SURE.

WE WANNA BE NICE, WE WANNA BE HELPFUL.

WE JUST, THIS DOES INVOLVE LIVING CREATURES THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO GREAT JOB.

OH, THANK YOU.

SATISFIED.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

SO I WILL ASK FOR THIS TO ALSO GO ON THE SCHEDULE AND HAVE YOU REPORT IT OUT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THE COMMITTEE, WE ALREADY DID THE, UH, SPEED HUMS AND TRAFFIC CALMING FUNDING.

AND WE ARE TO NUMBER SIX ADJOURNED.

SO AT 4:41 PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.