[Plan Commission Pre Meeting] [00:00:12] GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE WE GET OUR STAFF BRIEFING AND DISCUSS THE CASE IS A LITTLE BIT. AND AFTER IT THROUGH WITH ALL THAT WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? ANYTHING ON MINUTES OF THE PLANTS. SEE NONE. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE 20 TO 65. SORRY. THERE'S SOME ISSUES IN THIS LAPTOP. THIS IS THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE TO ALLOW 55 TOWN HOUSES AND OPEN SPACES. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.87 ACRES, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH ALLOWS TOWNHOUSE USES. SAYS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS SITE IS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH ALLOWS TOWNHOUSE USES, BUT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME MODIFICATIONS FROM THE G D. C AND THAT IS WHY THIS THIS CASE IS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT. THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH OR ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. SEVEN AND THESE PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND TO THE EAST IS OWN SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USE, AND THERE IS A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS. AND TO THE WEST IS THE IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND THERE'S RETAIL STORES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLANT DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS PRIMARILY CHARACTERIZED AS MODERATE RESIDENTIAL BETWEEN 6 TO 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS 11.9 DWELLING UNITS, PREY GROUPS, SO IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE DENSITY AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE TOP RIGHT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SORRY, WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE THE RETAIL ICE KIOSK IS. BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S ALSO ALL RESIDENTIAL. EXCUSE ME. I THINK I MISSED IT. I WAS CHECKING THE NOTE. DID YOU SAY THERE'S A ALREADY? UH TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT BEING PERMITTED? WAS THAT JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, THEN THE EAST LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY. YES THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE GDC STANDARDS. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. IT SHOWS 55 TOWNHOUSE LOTS AND THREE H O A LOTS AND ACCESS WILL BE FROM GALAXY AND FROM ARAPAHOE ROAD. AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER IT WILL COMPLY WITH THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT. IT'S AT 11.9 AND THE MAXIMUM IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS ON THE LOT SIZE LOT DEPTH, UM, AND SOME LANDSCAPING AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN JUST A MOMENT, AND THESE UNITS WILL BE ALL FRONT LOADED WITHOUT ANY ALLEY IN THE APPLICANT DOES A REQUEST AN ALLEY WAIVER. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE GDC REQUIRES 50% OF THE INDIVIDUAL LOT, UH, TOWNHOUSE LOT TREES TO BE LARGE CANOPY TREES. AND UM, THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS ALL OF THESE TREES IN THE FOR THE TOWNHOUSE, LOTS TO BE SMALL, ORNAMENTAL TREES, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THE LARGE CANOPY TREES IN THE H O A COMMON AREAS TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THESE SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES, THEY WILL BE PLACED IN FRONT OF THE SIDEWALK , SO WE WILL ACT AS A BUFFER [00:05:02] BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD. AND SCREENING IS REQUIRED ALONG ARAPAHOE ROAD, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING, PROPOSING A ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN AND VEGETATION. AND TO THE NORTH EAST AND WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SCREENING IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN TO THE EAST AND THE WEST ALONG GALAXY AND COMPLEJO. AND NORTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UM THEY'RE PROPOSING A CEDAR WOOD FENCE. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS PER THE G. D. C. AND HERE IS THE DEVIATIONS TABLE. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE LOT AREA AND THE G. D. C REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 1500. AND THE MINIMUM LOT AREAS BEING REDUCED TO ALLOW FOR THE REQUESTED REDUCTION IN THE LOT DEPTH LISTED. AND THE NEXT ONE IS LOT DEPTH. THE REQUIRED IS 90 FT. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 60 FT. THE OVERALL TRACK GEOMETRY AND INCORPORATING NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE CREATES CONSTRAINTS FOR THE LOT IMPACTING THE LOCKDOWN. THE THIRD ONE IS LANDSCAPING. AT LEAST ONE TREE IS REQUIRED FOR EACH TOWNHOUSE UNIT AND MUST BE PLACED EITHER ON THAT LOT OR WITHIN 50 FT. OF THE UNIT. FOR EACH TOWNHOUSE STRUCTURE. AT LEAST 50% OF THE REQUIRED TREES MUST BE LARGE CANOPY TREES, AND THE REMAINDER CAN BE SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES. AND THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS ONLY SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES FOR EACH LOT OR WITHIN 50 FT. OF THAT UNIT. AND LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE PROPOSED IN THE LARGER COMMON SPACE AREAS AS WELL AS ALONG ARAPAHOE ROAD. THE REDUCED DEPTH OF THESE LOTS STILL ALLOWS FOR SMALL GREEN SPACE FOR EACH LOT. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE THE REQUIRED LARGE CANOPY TREES TO LARGE COMMON AREAS INSTEAD OF THE SMALL GREEN SPACE TO ALLOW TREES TO REACH FULL MATURITY AND ALLOW MORE MANAGEABLE SPACE FOR FRANCHISE UTILITY PLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE. THE LAST DEVIATION IS AT FOR ALLEYS AND ALLEYS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE G D. C AND THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY ALLEYS AND THE SIZE OF THE SITE MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO ACCOMMODATE THE ALLEY. THE GARAGES AND DRIVEWAYS WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND WILL BE SERVICED BY THE PUBLIC STREET. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FRIENDLY TOUCH, USE AN ALLEY WAIVER AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN. FAMILY MAILED OUT. 163 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED TWO WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST 11 WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. TO OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST. 29 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 44 RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE WELL WE DON'T HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK. BUT WE DO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER ART THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT HOW MANY BEDROOMS DO YOU THINK WILL BE IN THIS EACH UNIT? THEY DID THEY TELL YOU THEY SHARE THAT INFORMATION . IT SHOULD BE ON THE SITE PLAN. I BELIEVE IT'S THREE BEDROOMS, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM THAT ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. ALREADY COMMISSIONER AT AND COMMISSIONER DALTON IS THIS BEING DEVELOPED BY THE SAME PEOPLE HAS A LOT THAT'S TO THE EAST, DIFFERENT DEVELOPER. DIFFERENT DEVELOPER. OKAY, SO DO WE KNOW HAD DO THEY HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION WITH EACH OTHER AS TO HOW THEY'RE GONNA INTEGRATE THOSE TOGETHER OR DO WE? DO WE KNOW WHETHER IT'S THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED IN THE PAST, BUT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO BEST ANSWER THAT OKAY. AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PERSON TO ASK WHICH ONE OF THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS IS GOING TO COME FIRST. CORRECT. THIS ONE, SO THE OTHER ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS SINCE THEY DID, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE GDC STANDARDS. IT IS GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, AND, UM, I BELIEVE THERE. THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A FEW SUBMIT ALS ALREADY. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO A NUMBER OF BEDROOMS ON THE SITE PLAN, AND I THINK IT'S REQUIRED FOR A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT LIKE IT IS FOR APARTMENTS. SO YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK YOU OUT ON THAT ONE. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONE THAT'S IN PERMITTING AS FAR AS WHY THE OTHER ONE JUST WENT IN? DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE G D, REQUESTING CHANGES [00:10:06] FROM THE GDC AND THIS ONE IS I MEAN, THEY'RE SIMILAR PROPERTIES SIMILAR SIZE. I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THAT, UM THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. I THINK THE PROPERTY THAT IS IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS HAD TO REDUCE SOME UNITS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE GDC STANDARDS AND, UM, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR THIS CASE THEY DID HAVE TO ASK FOR SOME DEVIATIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT NUMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONED ROSE AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO MIRROR COMMISSIONER AUNTS QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO TRANSITION, NOT JUST AS TO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, BUT TO THE SURROUNDING SF SEVEN PROPERTIES . DO WE KNOW THAT THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED? EXCUSE ME ARE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO OR IN SOME WAY SIMILAR TO THE SURROUNDING HOMES THAT ARE EXISTING. THERE NOW. UM SOMEWHAT SURROUNDED SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE ARE INCORPORATING AMENITIES. UM. THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE G D. C OKAY, UM AND THEN THE I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE PLAN. I'VE GOT TROUBLE READING THE SITE PLANS. I'M NOT ARCHITECT BY DESIGN. I DON'T HAVE THAT GOOD KEEN EYE FOR DETAIL. TROUBLES READING THIS ONE TO THAT. HOW HOW LARGE IS THE PATH? UH, FOR CARS FOR EGRESS AND INGRESS. IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY. IT LOOKED REALLY TINY. THE DRIVEWAY? NO, THAT THE EGRESS INTO AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY ONE TURN OFF OF GALAXY. UM AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE THAT COMES OUT AND I CAN'T TELL HOW LARGE THAT IS. SO I GUESS I'M I DON'T KNOW HOW LARGE IT IS, BUT I IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, SO THEY HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH OUR TECHNICAL STANDARDS MANUAL BEFORE THIS CAN BE FORWARD. UM AND BEHIND THAT QUESTION, AND I KNOW THIS. THIS IS TRANSPORTATION IS PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO ADD TO THE OVERALL CONGESTION IN THE AREA, RIGHT? OKAY UM, LAST QUESTION AS IT RELATES IN OUR LANDSCAPING. UM I AM A HUGE FAN OF CANOPY TREES. I THINK CANOPY TREES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY TO THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE COMMUNITY MAY BE COMPLAINING ABOUT GREEN SPACE OR LOSS OF GREEN SPACE. IS THERE A REASON THE APPLICANT COULDN'T CONSIDER OR WILL CANOPY TREES NOT FIT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE OF THE RETAINING WALL? SO THEY'VE GOT TO PUT UP THIS ORNAMENTAL GATE. THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN'T FULFILL THE REQUIREMENT ON THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO SMALL, CRAPE MYRTLES THAT ATTRACT ALL SORTS OF PASTS, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM ON THE INSIDE. IS THERE A REASON THE APPLICANT COULDN'T MOVE THEM TO THE OUTSIDE? THEY ARE PROPOSING THE LET'S SEE. YOU CAN'T SEE IT PRETTY WELL. BUT THEY, UM THEY'RE RELOCATING MOST OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED. MY CURSOR ISN'T WORKING FOR SOME REASON. UM BUT IT'S UM, MOSTLY TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST, WHERE THEY HAVE THE COMMON COMMON AREAS. YEAH I WAS. I WAS HOPING THAT THEY'D BE INTERESTED OR THERE'S SPACE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER, UM, INCORPORATING AGAIN. THESE CANOPY TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY, THE BORDER THE PROPERTY BECAUSE CANOPY TREES HAVE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS OUTSIDE OF JUST, YOU KNOW, BEING PRETTY, UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. I HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT FOR MORE, BUT IF THEY'VE GOT SPACE FOR IT, AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A LOSS OF NOT ONLY CARBON SINKS BUT GREEN AREA FOR THE STARTING COMMUNITY, PERHAPS ADDING SOME MORE TREES THAT COULD DO A NUMBER OF THINGS COULD BE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I ONLY ON THAT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE AND COMMISSIONER DALTON. THIS MAY BE AN ILLEGAL QUESTION MORE THAN ANYTHING, BUT CAN THIS CITY. RESTRICT THE PEOPLE THAT BUY INTO THOSE TOWNHOUSES, A MAXIMUM TWO CARS, PERIOD. END OF SENTENCE. I'M SORRY. REPEAT THE QUESTION. MY CONCERN IS PARKING. WHEN I WHEN WE, MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE STREETS WERE WIDE OPEN. OAKRIDGE NOW YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY WATCH WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THIS IS GOING TO BE A SMALL AREA AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND A THREE CAR, THREE BEDROOM HOUSE, WHICH MEANS THERE MAY WELL BE A INDIVIDUAL LIVING THERE WITH A CAR, THREE CARS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT CARS EVERYWHERE. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY. IS THERE SOMETHING THE CITY CAN SAY AND [00:15:04] ENFORCE THAT? IF IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE, TWO CARS, THAT'S IT. UNLESS IT'S A VISITOR THERE FOR YOU KNOW, FOR A VACATION AND WHATNOT, AND I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF. THANK YOU. COMMISSION, DALTON UM. SOME OF THESE TOWN HOMES OR THREE STORIES IN HOT, CORRECT. ALL OF THEM ARE BACKING UP TO SINGLE FAMILY. HOUSES RIGHT BEHIND THEM. I'VE GOT A BIT OF A PROBLEM. I'M AFRAID WITH THAT. THAT THAT RAISES THE QUESTION OF PRIVACY ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY IN YOUR OWN YARD, WITH NO WAY TO YEAH, GRANT YOURSELF BETTER PRIVACY ON THAT. OKAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THE DALTONS COMMENT. YEAH THE UNDERLYING IF WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST THE ZONING AND NOT THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW THE IDEA FOR THE S F A DISTRICT IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TRANSITION DISTRICT BETWEEN LOWER DENSITY AREAS AND , WELL LORD LOWER DENSITY AREAS TO OTHER MIXED USES OR HIRED DENSITY AREAS. DON'T THINK THAT HAVING A THREE STORY TOWNHOUSE ACCOMMODATES A TREND TRANSITION. BETWEEN THIS LOWER DENSITY TO A TO ANOTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE AREA WE DON'T HAVE. I THINK TO THE WEST YOU'VE GOT THE CR IS SO IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ARGUMENT THERE, BUT I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT. BUT COMMISSIONER DON'T IT'S JUST SAID SO. THANK YOU. HOW DO YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OR TWO? IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY IS GETTING A RIGHT AWAY THROUGH THERE. THIS DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT GOING TO BE NAMED CITY STREET? IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE A NAME CITY STREET THROUGH THERE, OKAY? UM AND ONE OF THE. RESPONSES MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR LEAVING THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ON ARAPAHOE THERE, AND APPARENTLY, IT'S LIKE AN OLD FASHIONED FOR SIDEWALK WHERE STANDARDS NOW FOR FIVE OR SIX FT ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, OR THEY HAVING TO IMPROVE THAT IMPROVE IT AND NO BE SIX. FT. OK THEIR SITE PLAN. WAS HARD TO READ. OKAY WHERE DOES THE PROPERTY LINE BEGIN? WHERE'S AN EASEMENT AND WERE YOU PROBABLY HAD THE SAME ISSUES, HUH? YOU CAN'T SAY YEAH. YEAH I ASSUMED IN QUITE A BIT. SO ALRIGHTY. OKAY? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL. WAIT FOR THE GENERAL HEARING COMMISSIONER ROSE AGAIN. UH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO THE. THREE FLOORS. IS THERE A WAY WEEK THE CITY CAN RESTRICT. THE. UNITS SECOND OF BACK UP TO HOMES BE LIMITED TO TWO FLOORS. TWO STORIES THE THREE FLOORS CAN BE ON THE WHOLE. IS THERE A WAY THE CITY CAN DO? THAT COULD BE A CONDITION OF THE PD THAT WE INSERT I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE YOU'RE PD LEAVES EVERYTHING OPEN . FOR OKAY, SO WE CAN CORRECT ON THAT, SIR. OKAY? CONSULTATION DOWN THERE. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. UH HUH. WELL WHY DON'T YOU JUST YEAH. YOU LOOKED LIKE HE WAS ABOUT TO TALK. SO IT'S GONNA KNOW THE LOOK APPEARS THE ELEVATIONS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 40 FT BUILDING HEIGHT. WHICH OF COURSE, IS THREE STORIES, BUT THE 40 FT IS THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT IN SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, SO EVEN REMOVING THE PD ASPECT OF HER GOING THROUGH PERMITTING THEY COULD DO UP TO 40 FT IN HEIGHT. MAY DEFER TO THE ATTORNEY AS TO WHETHER THROUGH A PD MECHANISM AS YOU SUGGESTED MR CHAIRMAN, THAT HEIGHT BE CONSIDERED ON THE NORTHERN SIDE TO ME, PDS KIND OF OPENED UP THE CAN OF WORMS FOR BOTH SIDES. ALREADY. I THINK THAT'S IT. WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT. YES, SIR. RIGHT? SO THIS IS CASE 22 71, THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY TEND TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM NOW THIS , UM CERTAIN CASE WAS ON THE JANUARY 9TH PLANNING COMMISSION . BUT IT'S BACK DUE TO, UM A MISREPRESENTATION OF THE. THE PROPERTY LINES, ALLOWING FOR MORE PEOPLE TO BE NOTIFIED. MAYBE I'LL EXPLAIN THAT GARLAND G. I S MAPPING. WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE SURVEY. THEY TURNED IN AND TURNS OUT TO [00:20:01] SURVEY. MADE IT SO THAT A FEW MORE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. AND WHILE IT COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THEY JUST DECIDED. LET'S CROSS OUR I'S AND DOT RTS. I KNOW I DID THAT BACKWARDS, BUT THIS IS JUST TO CLEAN THINGS UP AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 10 13 RAIL AT ROAD. UM THE SITE WOULD BE 130.443 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MINISTER ROUNDED BY AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES WITH THE COMMUNITY RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET AND SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN ZONING NEARBY. UM THE COMMUNITY RETAIL LOT ACROSS THE STREET IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND A CHURCH ZONED AGRICULTURAL IS ALSO ACROSS THE STREET. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LABELED AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THEREFORE THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOUR FOOTAGE OF THE SITE HAS SHOWN THE CURRENT VACANT SITE, UM AS WELL AS THE VACANT COMMUNITY RETAIL PLOT AND THE CHURCH SOUND AGRICULTURAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY 10 DISTRICT. UM FOR THIS CASE, WE MAILED OUT 45 LETTERS WE RECEIVED TO SOMEONE WAS INSIDE THE CIRCLE AND SUPPORT FOR AND ONE INSIDE THE CIRCLE, UM, AGAINST DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. COMMISSIONER PARIS ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. TYPICALLY THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS ARE WITHIN 400 FT OF THE PROVOKED PROPOSED ZONING AREA. SO FOR THIS SURVEY THAT WENT OUT. WAS IT WITHIN THAT 400? I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT NOTIFICATION. UM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT STAFF WORKS OFF OF THE MAPS THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE SURVEY ACTUALLY WENT BEYOND THE MAPS THAT THEY HAVE ABOARD. THE PROPERTY IS SO IT'S A IT WAS JUST A TECHNICAL GLITCH. UH AND THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT NOTIFIED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL ADD IN THE APPLICANT WAS AGREEABLE WITH THREE HEARING EVEN THOUGH IT PASSED THROUGH THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH FLYING COLORS, UNANIMOUS GUILTY. ALRIGHT UM THE NEXT CASES Z 20 TO 76. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED WILL OVERUSE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 26 41 BELTLINE ROAD. IT IS A 1.185 ACRE SITE ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. HERE IS THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. AND HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE LOCAL AREA. IT IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY COMMUNITY RETAIL, ZONING, UM SO RESTAURANTS, RETAIL AND OTHER, UM, COMMON, UM, USES NORMALLY ALLOWED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY RETAILER THERE. UM IT IS BORDERED BY A REHAB CENTER AND TO THE WEST IS A SCHOOL. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES. HE NEEDS THIS AREA AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS? UM BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE THIS PROPOSED USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. YOUR PHOTOS OF THE SITE. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. UM AND YOU CAN SEE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST, AS WELL AS THE HIGH SCHOOL TO THE WEST. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. UM THE APPLICANT REQUEST DEVIATION OF THE REFUSE CONTAINER BEING IN THE FRONT OF THE SITE, AS OPPOSED TO BEHIND THE BUILDING PER THE GDC. UM THEY CITE CITE, UM THEY CITE SITE DESIGN CHALLENGES AND SAFETY ACCOMMODATIONS. UM AS THE REASON TO DO THIS, UM, THE DUMPSTER DOES FACE AWAY FROM THE STREET. AS WELL AS IT IS, AH, SCREENS BY A VEGETATION SUCH AS GDC APPROVED SHRUBS AND A TREE. HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE SITE, AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN DOES COMPLY FULLY WITH THE G. D. C. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THESE ALSO FULLY COMPLY WITH THE G. D. C. STAFF [00:25:15] RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN ON THE PROPERTIES OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. UM FOR THIS CASE, 24 LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT. ONE WAS JUST ONE WAS RECEIVED AND IT WAS OUTSIDE THE AREA FOR, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK SO. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING, SIR. I'M BEING A LITTLE NITPICKY. I COULD HAVE SWORN THERE USED TO BE A FINAL CONCLUSION OR SUMMARY STATEMENT AT THE END OF THE PORTIONS, WHERE YOU HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU HAVE A FUTURE LAND YOU SUGGESTIONS. IS IT STAFFS SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL? AH WELL, WE BELIEVE IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AS IT'S GENERALLY THE COMPACT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THERE ARE MANY AREAS NEXT TO IT THAT ARE DEVELOPED AND WERE DEVELOPED RECENTLY THAT ARE ALSO SIMILAR LOW USE LOW USAGE COMMERCIAL AND SO WE FELT THAT IT IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY BE TIME FOR A LITTLE BIT OF LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THE CITY THAT DON'T MEET. WHAT'S THERE? THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REFERENCED IN SOME OF THE STATUTORY THAT THE TEXAS STATUTORY STUFF SO, UM, TYPICALLY THE NECESSITY OF THIS BOARD TO RELATE BACK TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE GRANTING DEVIATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT. BUT UM, IF STAFF IS COMFORTABLE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA THAN THAT'S OKAY, WE HAVE HAD CASES RECENTLY TO WHERE IT SEEMED COMPREHENSIVE ARE WOULD BE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. UM WHAT TEND TO ALLOW? UM CERTAIN THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS LIKE WE'VE HAD , UM, YOU KNOW, AT A ACCOMMODATES IN THE DEFINITION. UM USES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE, RETAIL OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES. UM SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF DID. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ART MATTHEW. HEY, UM. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ROLLOVER CAR WASH CASES LATELY. WE HAVE A NEW ONE. THAT'S THAT'S NO MORE THAN A PROBABLY A MILE OR LESS NORTH ON SHILOH ROAD. YOU HAVE A OLDER LEGACY ONE THAT'S ON BELTLINE ROAD GARLAND ROAD. UM DOES THAT COME INTO ANY OF. UH WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING WHETHER THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, AH, DID THAT COME UP? YES SIR. SO THERE IS THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S MORE OF A HAND WAND TYPE OF SELF SERVICE CAR WASH. UM A COUPLE LOTS DOWN, ACTUALLY, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT THERE'S THE 7 11 WITH THE SINGLE AUTOMATED CAR WASH, AND WE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. UM BUT THIS ONE WE FELT WAS A HIGH QUALITY. UM CAR WASH. OKAY, THAT, UM MORE OR LESS FIT. UM WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, OR UM, YEAH, YOU HAVE THE QUIKTRIP THAT'S ON THE HARD CORNER. THEN YOU HAVE THE YOU HAVE A WAND STYLE CAR WASH NEXT TO THAT. THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THIS. CORRECT BASICALLY WHERE THE OLD LAST PIECE OF THE , UM I THINK IT'S THE DRIVING RANGE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOLF DRIVING RANGE, OKAY? AND BUT IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON SHILOH, YOU WOULD GET TO ARAPAHOE WHERE WE JUST HAD A ROLLOVER CAR WASH DONE AND YOU GO TO THE LEFT AND YOU GO TO JUPITER ROAD AND YOU HAVE ONE THERE AND YOU HAVE THEY'RE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. I FIND IT AMAZING THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH NEED. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD BELIEVED THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION LATER TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU DID SOME READING UP ON THESE A WHILE OR SOMETHING? POPPED UP IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THAT APPARENTLY, THE MONEY GUYS FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S CASH FLOW IN THESE ROLLOVER. WASHERS AND THEY STARTED FUNDING A LOT OF THEM. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE. SO MONEY IS BEING POURED INTO IT, AND THEY'RE GOING UP EVERYWHERE AND IT'S THE SAME. WE SEE THINGS COME THROUGH IN SPURTS. REMEMBER WHEN CHECK CASHING CAME THROUGH AND UM ALL OTHER KINDS OF THINGS THAT COME IN SPURTS AND GOING. IS THAT ALL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE AGAIN? THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. THANK YOU. [00:30:01] MHM. THAT WAS THAT ALL QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. EVENING. SO THIS IS ZONING CASE 22 78. THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED S U P TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF A RECEPTION FACILITY FROM AN EXISTING BUILDING. AH IMMEDIATELY BELOW. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT I JUST SAID THAT THE FORMAL LANGUAGE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AT 3 54 EAST I 30. THE APPLICANT IS GOETZEL EVENTS CENTER. THE PROPERTY OWNERS MEAN THE HEATHER SAMORA SAMORA IS ALSO THE OWNER OF THE RECEPTION FACILITY GET SULLIVAN'S UNDER SO IT IS ABOUT 2.2 POINT FOUR ACRES. IT IS OWNED PV. $20.40 WHICH IS BASED ON THE COMMUNITY OFFICE, UH, DISTRICT. SO THIS MAP GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHERE THE SOVIET PROPERTIES WITHIN THE WITHIN THE CITY. HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ESSENTIALLY, THE SURROUNDING PROP PROPERTIES ARE ZONE, UM, COMMUNITY OFFICE TO THE WILL BE THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST. UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT IS AN OFFICE CAMPUS. TO THE NORTH ACROSS 30. THERE'S A HOTEL. TO THE EAST OR NORTHEAST , UH, COUPLE OF FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND THEN TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ANOTHER OFFICE CAMPUS, AND, UM CHURCH COMPLEX AS WELL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS BUSINESS CENTERS. UH BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS BUSINESS OFFICERS AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY. AH UM, OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE OCCUR INTERNAL TWO BUILDINGS, RESULTING IN MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACT. UM BUSINESS CENTERS RANGE IN SCALE AND INTENSITY BASED ON THE SURROUNDING VICINITY, AND MAY CONSIST OF ONE OR MORE BUILDINGS. THESE DEVELOPMENTS. AH TYPE INCLUDES A VARIETY OF PRIMARY AND SECONDARY USES, INCLUDING COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL USERS THAT SUPPORT THE BUSINESS EMPLOYMENT SECTOR. WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ADDITIONALLY, THE SITE IS WITHIN THE I 30 CATALYSTS AREA. THE PROPOSAL ALLOWS FOR THE REUSE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING AND SITE AND BRINGS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES TO THE AREA. A COUPLE OF PHOTOS HERE. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. THE LEFT IS A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY FROM MY 30 . THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS A VIEW TOWARDS THE WEST FROM SUBJECT PROPERTY, JUST KIND OF. WHEN I EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THE PICTURE HERE. UM, THE CONCRETE SURFACE THAT IS ON THE FRONT RIGHT OF THE PICTURE. DOES THE SERVICE ROAD OF I 30, THEN THE CONCRETE SURFACE THAT IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE THAT'S COMING ACCESS DRIVE THE SERVES DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU GOT THE PARKING LOTS. THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS A VIEW OF I 30 FROM THE PROPERTY PROPERTY AND ON THE RIGHT IS VIEWED AS A VIEW TOWARDS THE EASE FROM AGAIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BACK IN 2020, THE PD WAS AMENDED IN AN S U P WAS APPROVED TO ALLOW THE OPERATION OF RECEPTION FACILITY FROM THIS PROPERTY FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS. HOWEVER THE RECEPTION FACILITY HAS GONE THROUGH A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP IN THE NEW OWNER IS PROPOSING A CHANGE. TO THE HOURS THAT THE RECEPTION FACILITY WILL BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR EVENTS, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY CHANGE. FROM THE EXISTING S U P FOR THE RECEPTION FACILITY. THE SITE PLAN. UM. TO YOUR TO THE RIGHT. YOU HAVE I 30 , THEN YOU HAVE THE FRONT. UH, PARKING AREA. THEN YOU GOT THE MAIN BUILDING WHICH THE RECEPTION FACILITY WOULD BE AH [00:35:01] WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME PARKING AREA IN THE BACK, AND THEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING IN THE BACK. THAT IS WITH A PREVIOUS RECEPTION FACILITY WAS USED FOR STORAGE, STORAGE OF TABLES AND CHAIRS. BASICALLY EVERYTHING WILL REMAIN THE SAME. AND LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SIDE PLANE JUST WENT UP, WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY, UH, EXTERIOR CHANGES TO THE TO THE BUILDING, SO THERE'S NO EXPANSION TO THIS BUILDING. SO EVERYTHING'S REMAINING THE SAME . THE MAIN BUILDING WILL OPERATE AS A RECEPTION FACILITY. THE ONE IN THE BAG WILL BE A WAREHOUSE FOR THE EVENT STORAGE AGAIN. THE ONLY CHANGE IS TO, UH, THE HOURS THAT THE RECEPTION FACILITY WILL BE OPEN FOR EVENTS. CURRENTLY THE HOURS ARE FROM EIGHT A.M. TO 11:30 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THE PROPOSED EXTENDED HOURS WILL BE FROM EIGHT AM TO THREE A.M. MONDAY TO SUNDAY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDED RECIPE FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THIS AS AH, PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN, AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. AH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MELD OUT 27 NOTIFICATION LETTERS UP TO THIS POINT. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES WITH THAT. I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ART. THANK. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. UM HAVE THERE BEEN ANY POLICE ISSUES WITH THIS RECEPTION FACILITY AND ANY POLICE CALLS OR WE I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY ANY COMPLAINTS OR ANY ISSUES REGARDING, UM THAT THOSE THOSE KIND OF PROBLEMS OKAY AND NEIGHBORS KNOW NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING WITH CODE WITHIN RECEIVE ANY ANY AND UH, WARNINGS OR OR INFORMATION REGARDING REGARDING THAT, OKAY AND THREE A.M. AND IT WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO LATE. THAT'S THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THEY CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THEIR REASONS FOR THE EXTENDED HOURS. AND WHY THAT DOES THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR THIS TYPE OF OPERATION. OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER PAIRS. YOU MEAN, SIR? IS THERE ANYTHING ANYTHING IN THE PREVIOUS RECORD TO INDICATE WHY 12 AM WAS THE RESTRICTION PREVIOUSLY IN PACE THERE THAT WAS PROBABLY THE REQUEST FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER. UM. READING THE REPORT AND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. THERE WASN'T ANYTHING SPECIFIC AS TO WHY, UH, THAT WAS THE TIME WINDOW. AH SO THERE WASN'T ANY REAL EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THERE WAS THE TIME TO MIRROR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS HE MENTIONED FIRE. NO E M S OR EXCUSE ME. HE MENTIONED POLICE, NO FIRE OR EMS RESPONSES OR CODE COMPLAINTS REGARDING TRASH OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT OUT THERE KNOW THAT WE ARE AWARE OF. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARIS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA DROVE IT AS WELL, JUST TO REMIND MYSELF WHAT WAS AROUND IT. QUESTION ON JUST TWO THINGS. THERE ARE, UM. SO THERE'S A STORAGE. THERE'S A STORAGE FACILITY THAT'S BEHIND. AND THEN THERE'S THE ACCESS ROAD IN THIS AROUND NEAR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. FROM A VOLUME NOISE PERSPECTIVE, ANY CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING YOUR REVIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY? THERE WERE NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ISSUE BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. OKAY, AND THEN, UM, TYPICALLY FOR RECEPTION FACILITIES. THE ISSUE P AVERAGES ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEARS. THIS PROPOSAL, I BELIEVE, IS REQUEST FOR 20 CORRECT. OKAY AND THEN I PROBABLY SHOULD ASK THE APPLICANT THE REASON FOR THE 20. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WHY SUCH A AND IT WAS ONLY FIVE YEARS BUT JUST WANT TO BE SURE. I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES AND WHY SUCH A LONGER ISSUE P ASK YES, THEY'RE HERE TO AGAIN TO, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND AGAIN THE ORIGINAL ONE. THE ONE ISSUE IN 2020 WAS ALSO 20 YEARS. THE ORIGINAL WAS 20 AS WELL. OKAY. ALRIGHT APOLOGIES FOR THAT OVERLOOK, AND I THINK I'LL ALSO ASK ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF OURS . WHY GOING FROM THEM? YOU KNOW, I THINK TO COMMISSIONER JENKINS, ALSO INQUIRY OF THE WHY THE DIFFERENCE IN THE EXTENDED TIME BUT JUST WANT TO BE SURE FOR LAND USE AND IS FOR USE OF LAND. ETCETERA JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND [00:40:02] THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THANK YOU. FOLLOWING UP ON THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOURS AND MANY LEGAL HELP ON THIS THE DEFINITION OF HOURS. THAT WOULD BE FOR WHEN THE ACTUAL EVENT TAKES PLACE. SAY IT WERE LIMITED TO ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN THERE TO CLEAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF THINGS BEYOND THE ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS. FIGURED . HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT WHEN I GET BACK TO YOU ALWAYS FIND THE INTERESTING QUESTIONS, DON'T I? BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A LEGITIMATE REASON. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE. WE MAY ONLY NEED ONE O'CLOCK, BUT WE NEED TWO HOURS TO CLEAN UP. SO UH, LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT. AND MAYBE I NEED TO ASK COMMISSIONER PARIS'S BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ABLE TO DRIVE BY AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S EXTRA PIPE STRIPING IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ADDED AND GOOGLE GOOGLE MAPS DID NOT SHOW THAT STRIPING IN THE BACK. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW ANY PARKING STRIPING WHEN YOU OKAY, SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL NEED TO DO TO COMPLY. YES, THERE AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN INFORMED OF THAT, AND THEY WILL, UM STRIPE OR RE STRIPED THE PARK IN THAT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BACK. AND MR CHAIRMAN. GREAT QUESTION ON THE HOURS. YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW SCP HOURS OF OPERATION AS WE CALL IT, OUR INTERPRETED THAT UP UNTIL THREE A.M. IN THIS CASE THAT WOULD BE WHEN THE EVENT CONCLUDES. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT, UM, STAFF MAY NEED TO HANG AROUND AND CLEAN GAMES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THE KIND OF EVENLY SPLIT THE WORK THIS THIS MEETING, DIDN'T THEY? EVERYBODY GETS A SAY. WELL, I'M BACK. HE'S BACK. UM SO THE FINAL CASE TODAY IS A 22 79, THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR AN ADDITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH TO AN EXISTING RESTAURANT DRIVE THRU MCDONALD'S IT'S LOCATED AT 1 19 EAST BUCKINGHAM ROAD. UM THE SITE IS 190.875 ACRES, AND IT'S LOCATED AND IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE DISTRICT. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA. UM IT IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE. HOWEVER, IT'S SURROUNDED BY MANY, UM OTHER LIKE RETAIL AND OFFICE STORES, UM WITH A COMMUNITY RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY. SEVEN ZONING BEING JUST ACROSS THE STREET. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA LABELED FOR A BUSINESS CENTERS. UM IT IS NOTED THAT THE BUILDING DOES, UM PREDATES THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. UM AND THE GENERAL LAND USES FOR THE LAND USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. UM, YOU CAN SEE AH. YES STORES ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. UM . IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE SECOND DRIVE THROUGH PARKING SPACES WILL BE REMOVED, CAUSING , UM 42 SPACES TO BE PROVIDED WHILE 51 ARE REQUIRED. UM HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PARKING ANALYSIS. UM WHERE IT SHOWS THAT THE MAJORITY OF MCDONALD'S SALES ARE ALREADY THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU AND MANY PARKING SPOTS. UM A LITTLE LESS THAN A HALF REMAIN VACANT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. AND FINALLY , THE DUMPSTER ELEVATIONS. I SHOULD NOTE, THOUGH, THAT THERE WILL BE ZERO CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPING, DUMPSTER AND BUILDING EXTERIOR. OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVE THROUGH, OF COURSE. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR AN ADDITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH AND APPROVAL OF A PLAN ON A PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. FOR THIS CASE WE MAILED OUT 37 LETTERS WE RECEIVED 21 WAS INSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR AND ONE WAS INSIDE THE AREA AGAINST DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER. MATTHEW [00:45:09] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S SORELY NEEDED FOR THAT PROPERTY. MY BUSINESS ROTARY PERFORMANCES LITERALLY HALF A BLOCK DOWN FROM THAT, AND SO IN THE MORNING AND AT LUNCH, AND IN THE EVENING, THE BUSINESS SPILLS OUT INTO THE STREETS AND THEN DURING THE PANDEMIC, EVERYBODY GOT USED TO PICKING THINGS UP, UH, THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH AND SO THAT THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ELIMINATING IT'S MOSTLY THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT. CORRECT YES, SIR. IN THE VERY BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THEY NEVER USE THOSE. NOBODY EVER PARKS ON THAT, SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE NO EFFECT OTHER THAN A POSITIVE EFFECT ON BEING ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING IN THE STREET. HMM. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. IN THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION JP THREE CONSULTING THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT WE POSTPONE THIS CASE UNTIL FEBRUARY, 27TH. 2023 MEETING AND DO WE NEED TO TAKE ABOUT AN HOUR AND WE EVER DETERMINED THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IS IT STILL WITHIN THE 30 DAYS? THEN? NO, OKAY. I WILL ANNOUNCE THAT IN CASE SOMEBODY IS HERE FOR THAT CASE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ALRIGHTY SO THAT FINISHES UP OUR BRIEFING, AND SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK WE'RE IN RECESS. THANK YOU. [Call to Order] PREPARES THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS. I KNOW THERE ARE MANY FAITH TRADITIONS FEEL FREE TO GO TO THE GOD OF YOUR FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING. IF YOU SO WISH TO JOIN, LET'S PLAY. PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS AS WE PREPARE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS TO PRAY. FATHER. GOD MADE THESE WORDS OF MY MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF MY HEART BE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT. OH, LORD, YOU'RE MY STRENGTH AND MY REDEEMER. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY FOR THIS IS THE DAY THAT THE LORD HAS MADE ME REJOICE AND WE'LL BE GLAD IN IT. IN THIS NEW DAY. WE'RE NOT PROMISED. SO WE ARE THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE FOR A WEEK OF PROMISES AND POSSIBILITIES. YOU ARE A REFUGE AND STRENGTH AND THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY EDUCATORS AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY. LOWER AS WE ARE UNITED IN PRAYER, WE ASK TO UPLIFT. THE BEREAVED. HEALING FOR SICKNESS AND DISEASE AND CONTINUED PRAYERS OF YOUR PRESENCE, PEACE AND PROTECTION AND PROVISION THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. FATHER GOD IS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE THANKFUL TO BE CALLED TO SERVE THIS BODY. MAY WE BE FAITHFUL AND FOCUS LEADING WITH OUR GOD GIVEN THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS AS WE UPHOLD THE TENANTS OF THIS BOARD. AGAIN WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER OUR CITY WITH YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE STEWARDSHIP AND THE PROVISION. AND CLOSING. WE GIVE ALL OF OUR HONOR, PRAISE AND GLORY IN ALL THAT WE DO IN GOD OF MY GOD OF OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND IN MY FAITH TRADITION, I ASKED THIS ALL IN THE MAORI NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE. THE REGIONS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, AND TONIGHT WE ARE LUCKY AND BLESSED TO HAVE A NEW PLAN. COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS IS REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOR DON'T KNOW IF YOU CARE TO SAY ANYTHING OR NOT, OR NOPE. NOPE OKAY. AND WELCOME ABOARD AND. LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE. APPRECIATE ANYBODY WHO'S WILLING TO SERVE AND LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYBODY'S INPUT. A [3J. Consideration of the application of JP3 Consulting LLC, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Community Office (CO) District to Multi-Family-1 (MF-1) District. This property is located at 2700 West Walnut Street. (District 6) (File Z 22-81) (The applicant requests postponement of this case to the February 27, 2023 Plan Commission meeting.)] LITTLE BIT OF KEEPING AGENDA DATE. THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT CONSIDERATION APPLICATION OF JP THREE CONSULTING LLC. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTED. THAT THIS BE POSTPONED UNTIL FEBRUARY 27TH MEETING SO OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL BE DOING IS TAKING A VOTE TO POSTPONE IT THAN THAT. WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED, AND WE OWE MHM. WE HAVE, UH, SOME SPEAKERS HERE TONIGHT AND THE SPEAKER COMES FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE [00:50:04] MICROPHONE. WILLOW APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE THREE IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR GROUPS SUCH AS A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, WE ALLOW MORE TIME. AND AFTER EVERYBODY SPOKEN TO A LOT OF THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES [CONSENT AGENDA] RAISED. WE'LL START TONIGHT'S AGENDA WITH THE CONCERN AGENDA. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSIONERS AND WE WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE . IN ONE VOTE. I WILL READ THE ITEMS OUT. ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION WHO WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? LET ME KNOW. SAME THING IN THE AUDIENCE. ANYBODY WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT. CONCERNING GENERAL ITEM ONE. A CONSIDER POOL THE PLANNED COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 23RD 2023 MEETING TO A FLAT 23-31 90 AT NORTH GARLAND EDITION RE PLAN. I HEARD HIM TO BE PLAYED 23-4 EMBRY REPLANT LOT FOR OUR BLOCK 29 ITEMS TO SEE 23-5 M VERY REPLANT LOT TO OUR BLOCK 28. I WAS THERE. THE CONCERN AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED COMMISSIONERS OR AUDIENCE. I SEE NO INTERNAL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ITEMS. I THINK IT'S SENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING. OKAY WELL, I SEE WHERE COMMISSIONER PAIRS OF CHIMED IN TO SECOND IS OKAY. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALREADY. NEXT ITEM ARE ON OUR AGENDA IS HIS OWN IN CASE AND IT IS A TWO PARTER ITEM THREE A [Items 3A & 3B] CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF KIRKMAN ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 2801 AND 2901 ARAPAHOE ROAD. HM THREE B CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION KIRKMAN ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES ON PROPERTIES OWNED SINGLE FAMILY. UH, DISTRICT. SAME ADDRESS. ALRIGHTY AND IF THE APPLICANT OKAY. GOT A BUNCH OF CARDS. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME UP ONE AT A TIME. CLASSROOM CHECKS OUT AGAIN. OKAY, CHECK THE APPLICANT, OKAY? MR PHIL STONE. HMM. AND AGAIN NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS THAT MY NAME IS PATRICK, PHYLLIS AND I'M WITH KIRKMAN ENGINEERING. MY ADDRESS IS 5200 STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 IN COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS. I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEERING THE OWNERS REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVE TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF FOLKS AT ALL. SPEAK TO YOU HERE BRIEFLY, AND I THINK THERE'S A BRIEF PRESENTATION JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT YOU GUYS REVIEWED AND LOOKED AT THIS CASE. UM AND WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS HAVE COME THROUGH. AND SO WHAT KIND OF JUST RUN THROUGH AND REALLY ADDRESS THOSE? WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE WERE FIRST OFF ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. WE'VE WORKED FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE A LOT REALLY LONG TIME WHAT STAFF TO BRING THIS PRODUCT BEFORE YOU. IT'S A REALLY TRICKY PIECE OF LAND AND IT TOOK A TON OF EFFORT FROM STAFF FROM THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THE SELLERS WHO HAVE BEEN SUPER PATIENT WITH US AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO IT'S BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND THAT WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND I THINK WE CAN REALLY BRING UP AN EXCITING, UM , PLAYING AND FINISH OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PART OF TOWN. WE'VE GOT 55 TOWN HOME UNITS AND THREE LOTS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'RE THE CURRENT ZONING IS S F A AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THAT ZONING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND WE'RE DEVIATING BECAUSE OF THE SHARED DEPTH OF LOT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. UM IT'S JUST NOT THERE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS IT IS TODAY , AND SO WE'RE ASKING TO REDUCE THOSE LOTS DOWN FROM THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH IN IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND SHRINK THAT TO ACCOMMODATE THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT. AND WITH THAT THE TRIGGERS A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WITH THE LANDSCAPE REQUEST FROM REMOVING THE TREES FROM FROM THE FRONT YARD OF EACH EACH UNIT TO THE OPEN SPACE. UM THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A UTILITY EASEMENT THERE AND CITY STAFF WILL WILL LET US PUT SHRUBS AND GREAT MYRTLE TYPE TREES IN THAT AREA, BUT NOT THE LARGE CANOPY TREES THAT ARE [00:55:03] REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE WHERE WE STILL WANT TO PROVIDE THOSE TREES AND WE ARE PROVIDING THOSE TREES JUST WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE AND AWAY FROM THE LIGHTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE WE'RE REQUESTING TO REMOVE THE ALLEY WAIVER REQUIREMENT. THESE ARE ALL THE FRONT LOADED AND THERE'S JUST ISN'T SPACE TO PROVIDE AN ALLEY. THERE'S AN ALLEY ON OUR NORTH BOUNDARY THAT IS SERVING THE LOT STORY NORTH, UM, WITH THE ABILITY TO TIE INTO THOSE WE REALLY WANTED TO SEPARATE FROM THAT AND NOT ADD MORE TRAFFIC DOWN THOSE ALLEYS AND MAKE THIS A SEPARATE PRODUCT. UM AND SO WE'RE REQUESTING THEIR WAY OF THAT ALLEY REQUIREMENT. UM I THINK ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS DISCUSSED WAS THE HEIGHT OF THESE STRUCTURES. JUST SIMPLY, THE FOOTPRINT OF HIM IS ONLY LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A GARAGE AND A LITTLE BIT OF LIVING SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO FLOORS ABOVE THAT. THAT WILL BE LIVING IN THE BEDROOMS. UM AND SO THAT IS WHERE THAT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT COMES IN. WE'RE STILL ADHERING TO THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE BASE S F A ZONING STANDARDS. WE'RE NOT PASSING TO GO ABOVE THAT. UM THE. WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING OR NOT, OR A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WE'VE HAD. WE'VE WE'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIALOGUE WITH THEM AND SEVERAL MEETINGS AND WE BEFORE WE CAME BACK COMMISSION TONIGHT, WE HAD A FORMAL MEETING WITH THEM DISCUSSING THE PLAN, OPENING UP FOR QUESTIONS TO ALL OF THEM AND UM, DISCUSSING WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE WOULD, BUT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE SEEING. UM ONE OF THE BIGGER TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE GUARDRAIL THAT EXISTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ARAPAHOE TODAY, AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH HERE AND SO WHEN WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL, SO WE'VE GOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ARAPAHOE. THERE'S A AN ALLEY THAT DIRECTLY ABOUT ARAPAHOE UNTIL WE'VE WE'VE GOT NO ALLEY THERE, BUT WE'VE GOT. WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE SIDEWALK THAT'S EXISTING THERE TODAY. REMOVE AND REPLACE OVER THE SIX FT SIDEWALK, THEN THERE'LL BE TREES, LARGE CANOPY, TREES, SHRUBS AND A RIGHT IRON FENCE THAT WILL PROTECT US AS WELL AS A GUARD RAIL WELL, AND SO THOSE HOMES WILL BE PROTECTED JUST LIKE THE HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ARAPAHOE WITH WITH THE GUARDRAIL. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WITH SCREENING AND TREES AND A RIGHT IRON FENCE. UM THE HMM. CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC INCREASES ARE SEEM TO BE PRETTY PREVALENT WITHIN THE OPPOSITION GROUP LETTERS THAT WE SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT TODAY. AND THIS HAS BEEN ZONED SF A FOR QUITE SOME TIME ARAPAHOS BEEN PLAYING WITH THAT IN MIND, AND WE'RE UNDER THE YOU SAID JULY TWO. THE DENSITY IS ALLOWED WITHIN. THAT S F A STANDARD. SO THE ZONING WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT DOES WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THAT AT ALL, AND INCREASE THE DENSITIES OR OR CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WASN'T OTHERWISE PROVIDE PROVIDED FOR WITHIN THE EXISTENCE OWNING UM, I THINK THAT WAS REALLY ALL THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I HEARD. OH, AND THEN THE BEDROOMS, NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. WHETHER IT WAS UNCLEAR AND THE SIZE OF THE UNIT. THEY'RE ALL THREE BEDROOM UNITS. THE BEDROOM OF THE UNITS COULD VARY FROM 18 TO ABOUT 2200 SQUARE FEET. UM IN TOTAL SIZE, BUT THEY'LL ALL BE THREE BEDROOM UNITS. AND I'LL BE HERE AND THERE WILL BE A COUPLE OTHER PRESENTATION. I'LL BE HERE IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME NOW OR THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, I'LL BE HERE TO ENTER THEM. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONER ROSE I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON YEAH, EACH OF THE HOMES ARE THEY ALL GOING TO BE THREE FLOORS? CORRECT YES. CAR GARAGE AND A TV ROOM ARE A GAME ROOM OR WHATEVER YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL IT. THEN THE LIVING AREA AND DINING ROOM AND SO FORTH IN THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN THE BEDROOMS. CORRECT OKAY, SO THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE THAT WAY, CORRECT. ALREADY AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. HMM. AND GOTTA OKAY. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THAT CONVERSATION AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE PLAN, AND IT'S A IT'S. I HEARD THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO IT. SO FORGIVE MY, UM UNINFORMED ICE. THEY'RE BAD. I'VE HAD SOME SURGERIES AND HORRIBLE WHAT. COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE DISTANCE? IT'S THE SIZE OF THE STREETS. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? TWO LANE 50 FT RIGHT OF WAY AND UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT THE STREET SECTION IS. IT'S 27 FT STREET SECTION. THIS IT'S A CITY STREET . IT'S A MEAT CITY STANDARDS WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED BY ENGINEERING. OKAY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 55 UNITS TOTAL. 50 55 UNITS, CORRECT. OKAY AND [01:00:04] EVERY, UH EVERY TOWN HOME UNIT WILL HAVE ITS OWN DRIVEWAY. IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN DRIVEWAY AND ITS OWN GARAGE. OKAY? BUT BUT IS ON STREET PARKING CONSIDERED. IN THIS ASSESSMENT AS WELL. THERE IS NO ON STREET PARKING THERE IS ON SITE PARKING THAT WE'VE GOT SEVERAL. WE'VE GOT A PARKING LOT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT THAT ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND THEN IN THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S ANOTHER HANDFUL OF PARKING SPOTS. THEIR GUEST PARKING IS MEANT TO BE ON SITE PARKING, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT RIGHT , SO EACH UNIT COULD ESSENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE FOUR CARS OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING PROVIDED WITHIN THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN ON THE EASTERN PORTION AROUND THE OPEN SPACE. OKAY IS THE THIS. THIS ON SITE, PARKING ABOUT 400 FT, AWAY FROM EVERY TOWN HOME? YEAH THAT'S THE ORDINARY TO REQUIREMENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALREADY ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT, UH JD GONZALES. THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS J. D J. D. GONZALEZ I, UM I'M AT 43 10 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IN DALLAS. 752. OH, SIX. I AM HERE THIS EVENING IN MY CAPACITY AS TO TRUSTEE OF SEVEN INVESTMENTS PARTNERSHIP. WHICH IN APRIL 27TH OF 1967 WAS FORMED. PURCHASE LAND IN GARLAND. AND, UM 53 YEARS HAVE PASSED SINCE THAT TIME, MR WILLIAM F. K IDAHO AT THAT TIME WAS THE TRUSTEE. HE HAD JUST GRADUATED FROM LAW SCHOOL AND HAD CREATED THIS PARTNERSHIP ALONG WITH SOME OTHER LAWYERS. AH MR KEHOE PASSED AWAY IN 2014. HE WAS SUCCEEDED BY ANOTHER GENTLEMAN NAMED LEROY BORISON IN 2019. MR BORISON PASSED AWAY. DURING THAT TIME WHEN MR BORISON WAS THE TRUSTEE, HE SOLD OFF SOME MORE LAND HERE IN GARLAND AT ARAPAHOE IN SHILOH. YOU SEE THE INTERNATIONAL LEADERSHIP OF TEXAS. YOU SEE, UM THE, UH, THE STARBUCKS THE CAR WASH THE OPEN LAND AT THE HEART, SOUTHWEST CORNER AS WELL AS MURPHY EXPRESS AND THE MALOOF PROPERTY. WHICH I THINK YOU APPROVED FEW WEEKS AGO ON THE DUTCH BROTHERS TRANSACTION. SO TO THAT END, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT IN 2014 WHEN MR KEHOE PASSED AWAY, I WAS DESIGNATED THROUGH PROBATE TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER AFTER MR BRORSON PAST. I AM MR KO AND MRS KEHOE'S IF YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND, I HAVE A LAW DEGREE, SO THEY FELT THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF MR BORISON COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD TAKE OVER AND THAT WAS BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED. THE PARTNERS CAME IN AND VOTED ME IN. I'M TELLING YOU ALL THIS TO GIVE YOU SOME SOME HISTORY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS LAND. I LISTED THE PROPERTY AND I'VE HAD IT LISTED NOW. FOR NINE YEARS, NINE YEARS HAVE PASSED SEVEN DEVELOPERS HAVE COME IN AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WALKED. THEY WALKED BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF DEPTH WITH THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS CHALLENGE FOR NOT JUST THOSE DEVELOPERS. BUT TODAY'S BUYER AS WELL. THIS PARTICULAR BUYER HAS NOT ONLY THE INTELLIGENCE AND THE FORTITUDE AND THE STAMINA TO COME IN, BUT HAS THE ABILITY TO CLOSE WE HAVE HAD THIS LAND A LONG TIME ON THE MARKET, BOTH 29 OH ONE, AND 28 01 ARAPAHOE. AND THAT IS THE BASIC HISTORY OF WHAT IS TRANSACTED HERE OVER THE LAST 9 TO 10 YEARS. THE PROPERTY HAS HAD TREMENDOUS PHYSICAL CHALLENGES, AND THE STAFF CAN ATTEST TO THAT. MR GARIN CAN ATTEST TO THAT. AND CERTAINLY THE ENGINEERING FIRM CAN ATTEST TO THAT. THOSE WERE MY REMARKS. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER WHAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH. NOT JUST THE LAST NINE YEARS, BUT THE LAST 53 ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, PLEASE? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. TRAIN HARD. HMM. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS TREY HEART I OFFICE AT 43. 10 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS AND 5 TO 06. I AM A BROKER, SO I REPRESENT BOTH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PROPERTY SINCE 2018. MY BACKGROUND IS IN BOTH BROKERAGE AND IN DEVELOPMENT. I WORKED FOR A DECADE. WHERE THE LOCAL INVESTOR DEVELOPER HERE IN DFW AND WORKED SITES, EVERYTHING FROM UNDERWRITING TO ENTITLEMENTS TO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN ULTIMATELY SELLING, SO I'VE [01:05:05] RECOGNIZED THE DIFFICULTIES OF THIS SIDE AS WELL AND THE CHALLENGES DUE THE FACT THAT THAT THE LIMITATIONS WITH THE DEPTH AND I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH THE BUYER THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. WE'VE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT FOR OVER A YEAR. NOW AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH WITH STAFF THAT WE APPRECIATE STAFFS, DILIGENCE AND WORKING WITH US AND PATIENTS ON ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO DELIVER A PRODUCT, THE BUYER TO DELIVER A PRODUCT THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW, WITH LINES IN THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, LIKE JD SAID, IT'S BEEN ZONED. I THINK CLUSTER WAS THE ORIGINAL TOWN HOMES OWNING TO S F A. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED. IT'S ONE OF THESE UNIQUE TRACKS IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. THERE'S NOT MANY LEFT. THAT HAVE NOT EVER BEEN DEVELOPED. THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THEM. AND THE REASON IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE NATURE OF THE SITE AND THE LACK OF DEPTH SO WE'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT REPRESENTING THE SELLER, WORKING WITH THEM OR REPRESENTING THE SELLER ON AND GETTING, UM, THE TIME THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE BUYER TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, SO WE'VE WORKED THROUGH MANY TRAINS. MANY EXTENSIONS TO ACHIEVE THIS, AND SO WE'RE HAPPY THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MOVE THIS ALONG. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR ME ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER. YOU SEE? NONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. AND MR JOE THOMAS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE THANK YOU. WE SERVED TOGETHER ON CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE A FEW YEARS AGO. AND UH, THANK YOU FOR MR KARENS. FOR SOME ADVICE. I DID BRING A FEW SLIDES. CAN I GO AHEAD AND, UH, PLUG IN AND SHOW THAT HOW IS THAT DONE? YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME EXPERTISE, HELP RIGHT HERE. YEAH SO I AM JO THOMAS. I RESIDE AT 29 17 SPRINGBROOK DRIVE IN GARLAND THAT IS IN THE CAMELOT. SUBDIVISION. SO WHILE THAT'S A LOADING, I WILL SAY I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE IN MY POSITION AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL. IT WAS TWO A WEEK AGO. TUESDAY WAS OUR THIRD MEETING ON THIS. I ACTUALLY WAS CONTACTED. THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE CONTACTED ME BACK IN OCTOBER, WHEN ALL THEY HAD WAS JUST THAT ARIEL STREET PLAN STARTED TALKING. THEN THEY PRESENTED TO OUR BOARD. AT OUR BOARD MEETING IN NOVEMBER. AND AGAIN BACK ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 31ST. AND SO THEY'VE EVER AS THEY'VE HAD MORE THINGS TO SHOW US. THEY'VE CALLED MEETINGS, AND MOST OF OUR BOARD HAS BEEN HAPPY TO COME AND SEE WHAT THAT IS. I MEAN, I T GUY WE USUALLY REBOOT AT THIS POINT IT UP HERE. NO, WE'RE NOT GETTING IT ON OUR SCREEN JET, EITHER. YEAH. GOTTA LOVE TECHNOLOGY. YEAH. WHAT. I DON'T SEE THAT. IS THERE A NINE YEAR OLD IN THE HOUSE? THERE'S WINDOWS EXPLORER. LET'S GO AHEAD. OK? I THOUGHT I SAW ANOTHER. WHO WAS THAT? OKAY NOW WE'RE GETTING THE PROS FROM THE BACK HERE. I GOT THIS THUMB DRIVE FROM THE CITY OF PLANO. SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED , THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL. I DON'T SEE ANY BLUE SMOKE YET, SO WE'RE STILL GOOD. [01:10:59] YOU SAID IS THIS ONE GO. OKAY PRETTY GOOD. ALRIGHT, WE GOT IT. WELL, I DIDN'T THEY DID. SO JUST BRIEFLY. CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FORMED IN 1980. AND THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION, NOT IN WHICH IS MANDATORY. AS YOU KNOW. WE ARE REGISTERED WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY. AND WE'RE GARLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE YEAR IN 2020. NOW THEY HAD. HOW CAN I MAXIMIZE THIS AND GET RID OF THAT THING? JUST GO AHEAD. OKAY SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS ARE ALL SEEING THIS ON YOUR SCREEN, SO, UH, THE AREA IN WITH THE BLACK OUTLINE IS CAMELOT ITSELF. I WANT TO DO GO TO AN AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE. GOOGLE MAPS. HMM AND, UH, THE LITTLE RED DOTS. WE DID A CURB NUMBERING PROJECT IN OUR, UH, TRACKED A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP TO HAVE CAMELOT LOGO PUT ON THERE. AH THE RED BOX HERE AT THE BOTTOM IS THE PROPOSED SITE. OF THE GREEN. THERE ARE TWO OTHER SMALL OS FOR ON THE CORNER HERE THAT WERE BUILT MUCH LATER THAN HOMES AND CAMELOT THAT WERE BUILT BETWEEN ABOUT 77 1980 MY OWN PLACES BUILT IN 1980. IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST ONES. UM THE BLUE ARE THE CAR WASHES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THERE'S ALMOST 123456. IF THEY WERE THEY WERE HERE PROPOSING ON CAR WASH TONIGHT I WOULD BE HERE TO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF WE GOT THE CLEANEST CARS AND GARLAND IN CAMELOT. UH HUH. AND THEN THE ORANGE IS THIS TRACT HERE CALLED SHOAL CREEK. IT IS ALSO TOWN HOMES ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE. AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING PROPOSED HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TO THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE? IT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS PEOPLE ASK ABOUT. AND SO I HAD A REALTOR FRIEND. PAUL COMPARABLE SALES. FOR THE TOWN HOMES AND SHOAL CREEK. SO THESE ARE TOWN HOMES IN THE 1618 100 FT RANGE, SO IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER THAN WHAT I BELIEVE THESE GENTLEMEN SAID. AVERAGE OF 1674 FT AND THE AVERAGE SELLING PRICE $358,000. WHICH IS JUST OVER 2% OVER ASKING PRICE. FOR THE SIX THAT SOLD IN 2022, SO THE AVERAGE SELLING PRICE IN CAMELOT ITSELF SOMEWHERE LESS THAN $358,000. UM MORE LIKE 300 TO 3 25. SO THESE ARE HIGHER. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN EVEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. THAT WERE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. UM. AND THEN NEXT IS, UM SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THAT LOT FACING WEST IN WINTER. THAT'S A THAT GOOGLE MAPS MUST HAVE JUST GOT THERE BEFORE YOU MODE JD. BECAUSE NORMALLY THAT LOT YOU SEE IN WINTER IS BROWN LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S ONLY THAT'S ALL TWO FT. HIGH WEEDS AND FULL OF TRASH. IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT EYESORE FOR THE 10 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN CAMELOT. NOW, IF YOU MIGHT. THE NEXT SLIDE IS IF YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER THERE'S HOW IT LOOKS IN SUMMER. GOOGLE DOESN'T COME DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY, AND SO IT GREENS UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL THAT CAN BE THE GROW GREEN AND GROWING AND CATCHING ALL THE TRASH THAT BLOWS UP THERE HAS MADE IT A REAL EYESORE. UM. ONE OF THE AND SO YOU'LL YOU'LL. HERE'S THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S THERE. THAT SIDEWALK IS WIDER THAN IT LOOKS. THERE'S NO ONE OUT THERE, EDGING THAT SIDEWALK TO KEEP THE GRASS BACK OFF OF IT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE TINY TRAIL AND IF THAT'S EDGED, IT'S MUCH WIDER THAN IT LOOKS IN THIS PICTURE. [01:15:03] AND THEN THERE'S A CITY OWNED PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. THAT EASEMENT OF THAT CURB RIGHT THERE. AND SO WHY DO I BRING THAT UP? YOU'RE A LONG RAP AHO ON EVERY SIDE OF ARAPAHOE. THERE IS AN ALLEY AND THEN THERE IS GUARD RAIL THAT IS HIGHWAY QUALITY GUARD RAIL ON BOTH SIDES OF RAPA HO ALMOST ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THAT SECTION OF ARAPAHOE. WE DON'T SEE THIS ON MAJOR STREETS LIKE JUPITER BOULEVARD AND SOME OF THESE OTHERS. WHY IS THAT A LONG RAP AHO RIGHT THERE. AND HERE'S WHY , AND I THINK YOU GUYS GOT OUR NEWSLETTER IN YOUR PACKET. BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THIS ON THE RECORD. SO OUR GUARD RAIL BACK IN 2009 PIGGY SORRENTINO, WHO HAS LIVED THERE SINCE THE EIGHTIES. UH THAT WE SAW ONE CRASH AFTER ANOTHER. HERE'S THE CAR THAT WENT THROUGH SOMEBODY'S FENCE AND NEARLY INTO THEIR HOUSE. AND SO SHE STARTED. IT WAS A THREE YEAR CAMPAIGN FOR TRANSPORTATION, AND WE KNOW THIS IS NOT PART OF THEIR ZONING TONIGHT, BUT WE DID WANT TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE ISSUE THERE AND THE ISSUE OF SAFETY. AND SO SHE MET WITH FOLKS. AND GOT THAT GUARD RAIL PUT IN AND SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THAT GUARD RAIL IN EARLY JANUARY, WHEN SOMEONE TRIED TO MAKE A TURN BACK HERE ON AT THIS INTERSECTION, SO THERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL NICE AND PRETTY THERE'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN PEOPLE TRIED TO MAKE THE TURN TOO QUICKLY. CITY CAME OUT FIXED IT RIGHT AWAY. AND A WEEK LATER, SOMEONE ELSE MADE THAT TURN HIT THE GUARDRAIL AND TOOK OUT EVEN MORE OF IT. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE PROTECTION FOR THESE THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SCREENING BY THEM OR ASK AND TRANSPORTATION TO PUT UP A GUARDRAIL ONCE THEY'RE DONE. BUT I'M SURE WE'RE WE HAVE OUR CONTACTS THAT TRANSPORTATION I'LL HAVE. I'LL SEND PEGGY DOWN THERE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT, IF THAT BECOMES NECESSARY. SO ANYWAY, THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN REALLY FORTHCOMING WITH US AND REACHED OUT TO US FROM EARLY ON. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE ASSOCIATION BOARD IS HERE TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER. ODD . NO, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTING TONIGHT. UM WE'VE WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THIS PROJECT BEING THREE STORIES. DID THAT. GIVE YOUR BOARD ANY. THEY HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH IT? LOSS OF PRIVACY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOT REALLY. I THINK THAT'S FOR ANY OF THESE TWO PENCIL OUT. IF IT'S EVER GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, IT'S GOT TO BE THAT WAY. OKAY UM, THERE WAS I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, OTHER HOUSES THAT BORDER ATTRACT JUPITER BOULEVARD WHEN JUPITER WAS WIDENED FROM A TWO LANE ROAD TO THE SIX LANE AUTOBAHN IT IS NOW DID ANYBODY WORRY ABOUT THOSE HOUSES RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND SOMEBODY IS ALWAYS GOING TO GET HURT A LITTLE BIT. BUT FOR THE GREATER GOOD. WE DID WIDEN JUPITER TO SIX LANES. SAME FOR CAMPBELL ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE WE HAVE SOME RESIDENCES THAT FACE THERE. AND SO I THINK THAT YEAH, THERE WAS A LOSS OF PRIVACY FOR 16 HOUSES THERE. UM OUTWEIGH THE GREATER GOOD OF HAVING EQUALITY, DEVELOPMENT AND GETTING RID OF AN EYESORE. RIGHT I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT OUTWEIGHS THAT. OKAY AND YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT. DO YOU KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO INTEGRATE IN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TO IT? I DON'T. THAT'S A SEPARATE PROJECT. I UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THAT LOT. UM. THAT LOT IS ON THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE AND BECAUSE OF RAPPER WHO HAS A BIG CURVE THERE. THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE THERE THAT THEY WON'T BE HERE ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE. THERE WON'T NEED ANY CHANGES. THE LOTS BIG ENOUGH. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE THESE, BUT THEY JUST WON'T BE HERE BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR CHANGES. THEY'LL JUST GO BUILD IT WHEN THEY'RE READY. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. YOU SAID THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE 16 HOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS THAT WILL BE FACING THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF CAMELOT. YES ONLY 16 HOUSES. SIX THE 16 THAT WILL BACK UP TO THIS. RIGHT THAT I HAVE THE THAT HAVE THEIR ALLEY BACK UP. I COUNTED THE 16. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALREADY THERE WAS LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAD. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHICH IS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WELL, SINCE WE I THINK HAPPENING. PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK UP UNLESS HE WANTS TO. BUT, UH, OKAY, THERE. WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OF IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK UP, MR WILSON. OH THERE YOU ARE RIGHT THERE. WELL I WAS TALKING AND I'M [01:20:08] LOOKING AT THE CARDS. COMMISSIONER ALBAN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. JUST LOOK AT THE ELEVATIONS. IT LOOKS LIKE I GUESS BUILDINGS, 246 AND NINE HAVE BALCONIES AT BOTH THE FRONT AND THE REAR. AND SIX AND NINE BACK UP TO THE, UH BACK UP TO THE NORTH SIDE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AND I NOTICED THAT 13578 AND 10 DO NOT HAVE BALCONIES IN THE REAR. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? I ASSUME THAT WAS ALL DONE FOR PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING'S GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT AND YADA YADA, BUT BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WOULD THERE BE ANY OBJECTION TO SWAPPING THEM OUT, IN OTHER WORDS, SO THAT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT FACE THE NORTH SIDE DO NOT HAVE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF A IN ADDITIONAL INJUSTICE. NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A WINDOW THERE, BUT YOU MAYBE HAVE A BALCONY AND WE'VE I'VE RUN INTO INSTANCES WHERE YOU GET PEOPLE WHO STUFF FLIES OFF A BALCONIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WOULD THERE BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE ABLE CONFIRM THAT THEY DO. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE REMOTE. REMOVE THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS. WE WOULD WANT OUR ARCHITECT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THE PLANNING ORDINANCES AND BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED. THERE'S A BUNCH OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO ADHERE TO WITHIN THE PLANNING ORDINANCE, AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE IT A STIPULATION THAT WE REMOVE THOSE AND PUT THEM ON OTHER BUILDINGS IN THIS RIGHT. AND I GUESS THAT THE MINDSET THAT I'M THINKING OF IS, FOR EXAMPLE OF SIX AND NINE HAVE BALCONIES, BUT THREE AND FIVE DON'T THEN MAYBE WE COULD SWAP SIX AND NINE WITH THREE AND FIVE MIGHT CAUSE SOME OTHER PROBLEMS , BUT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN YOU GET TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL, THERE'D BE TIME TO WORK THAT OUT AND, IF NECESSARY, ASKED FOR A THE APPROPRIATE WAIVER IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ISSUE AT ALL. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. NUMBER THREE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. NO. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ROSE I MOVE THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAVE BEEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING OPEN ONLY. ALREADY THERE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE EARNED DISCUSSION NOW. ANYBODY CARE TO START? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, AND INITIALLY I HAD SOME HESITATIONS ABOUT THIS THIS PROJECT. INITIALLY BASED UPON A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED I WAS CONCERNED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER AFTER HEARING FROM, UH THE PRESENTERS THIS EVENING. I AM CERTAIN THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY AND I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT AH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM I, TOO HAVE HAD MY MIND CHANGED IN THIS ALSO, IT'S UM THIS ONE TOOK IT TOOK A TWIST I HAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BE UNIFIED IN FAVOR OF IT SPEAKS, SPEAKS STRONGLY. THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR MONTHS FAR LONGER THAN WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT, SO I TO IT ALSO, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN AND COMMISSIONED DALTON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM I THINK ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF ADVICE THAT I GOT WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL WAS TO NOT LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. AND I JUST I THINK THAT WE WHAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THAT THERE IS NO PERFECT FOR THIS PROPERTY. THERE IS NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO PERFECTLY SATISFY ANYONE OR PERFECTLY ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO KEEP IT FROM BECOMING AN EYESORE . AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE PREVENT PRESENTED WITH HIS GOOD AND SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT. ALTHOUGH I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION THAT WE MAKE, UM, RECOMMEND. AT LEAST WENT TO AT LEAST AMELIORATE SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF HAVING A THREE STORY BUILDING ACROSS THE ALLEYWAY ALLEYWAY FROM YOU, TOO. IT IT AT LEAST SAY, WELL, THERE AT LEAST NOT GONNA HAVE BALCONIES. UM SO THAT'D BE MY ONLY SUGGESTION ON THAT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON AND [01:25:02] COMMISSIONER ROSE. TONIGHT'S CASE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. OF WHAT I'VE SAID MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, I WALKED IN THIS ROOM. WITH ONE OPINION. AND I'M WALKING OUT OF THIS ROOM WITH ANOTHER OPINION. I'M TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER JENKINS. UM I WAS OPPOSED. BUT NOW I'M IN FAVOR, SO THERE WE ARE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. I WOULD CONCUR WITH MR ROBIN. BUT ELIMINATING THE BALCONIES ON THE NORTH SIDE. COMPLETELY. SO THAT FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY I DON'T FEEL I MEAN, THERE'LL BE WINDOWS, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY BALCONIES OUT. THERE WON'T BE ANY TRASH AND PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT CONCEPT. IN ADDITION TO MAKING IT HAPPEN. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN. YOU WANT BACK IN COMMISSIONER ROSE AFTER AFTER COMMISSIONER JENKINS. WELL NO. I JUST AN INQUIRY. IF I MAY BE BECAUSE OF THIS RECOMMENDATION OR THE SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DEVELOPED IS A SITE PLANNING TO BE REVISED. WE WOULD JUST MAKE IT A CONDITION OF THE P D, AND WE WOULD PROBABLY PASSED THE DETAILED PLAN IF THIS WERE TO PASS, KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT CONDITION BEFORE IT GETS THE COUNCIL WHERE IT'S IMPLIED IT'S APPROVED WITH THAT. WAS THE GO AHEAD IF I MAY , MR CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND OFTENTIMES IF ESPECIALLY IN CASES WHERE APPLICANTS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THEY WILL TRY TO GO AHEAD AND RECENTLY TO STAFF PRIOR TO PLAN. EXCUSE ME PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WAY, WHEN WE PRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL THAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SO THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING. OFTENTIMES THEY JUST CARRY FORWARD THE SAME PLAN WITH THE PLANE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND LET THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED ON THE MATTER, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE APPLICANT AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOME REVISED ELEVATIONS BEFORE COUNCIL. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND IF IT WERE TO PASS WITH OUR CONDITION, AND THEY DON'T MEET THAT CONDITION, THEN THE PLAN DETAILED PLAN. COULD BE VOTED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THAT MEETING THAT CONDITION BUT THAT'S MORE OF THE COUNCIL STAGE. COMMISSIONER ROSE TO MAKE A MOTION OF NO ONE ELSE IS, UH, I MAY SAY, LITTLE THING. THIS IS ONE. I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH ON TWO. I WAS KIND OF FOUR AND THEN READING ALL THIS STUFF OF THE NEIGHBORS LED ME â– AGAINST. AND ONE THING THAT GOT TO ME IS THIS IS WHEN YOU THINK OF TOWN HOMES. YOU THINK ROW HOMES WITH THE YARD IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE YARD IN THE FRONT. THESE ARE NOT THESE ARE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR TRADITIONAL TOWN HOMES, AS I THINK ENVISIONED BY S F A WHAT? WHAT? THE HOURS MORE APARTMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL ARTS. BECAUSE THERE'S NO FRONT YARD. THERE'S NO BACKYARD. HMM AND SO, UM, THAT THAT GOT TO ME A LITTLE BIT IN THAT IT'S NOT QUITE A TOWN HOME, BUT I WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW THE COMMISSION ON ALL THIS AND AGAIN LIKE COMMISSIONER ALBIN SAID, CAN'T LET THE COULD BE, UH OBSCURE THE PERFECT OBSCURE THE GOOD. YEAH. ALREADY COMMITTED. COMMISSIONER ROSE. GO AHEAD. YOU MIGHT STILL ALIVE. GLAD I WASN'T I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS A AND B. WITH THE CONDITION. THAT COMMISSIONER ALBIN TALKED ABOUT IS ELIMINATING ALL THE BALCONIES ON THE NORTH SIDE. HAD BACK UP TO THE ALLEY. SECOND. OKAY MOTION BY COMMISSION ROSE. I HEARD THE 1ST 2ND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AND THAT IS TO PROVE UH, THE REQUEST APPROVAL THE CHANGING ZONING SINGLE FAMILY TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND THE DETAILED PLAN WITH THE PROVISION THAT THERE BE NO BALCONIES. ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT. IS THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION [3C. Consideration of the application of G. Roxana Novoa, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family-10 (SF-10) District. This property is located at 1013 Rowlett Road. (District 4) (File Z 22-71)] OF G ROXANA NOVA REQUEST APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. TWO SINGLE FAMILY 10. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10 13 ROWLETT. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM, AND IF YOU RECALL AND FOR THE PUBLIC. SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE HEARD THIS ONE BEFORE WE DID ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, BUT THERE WAS A IT'S LIKE TECHNICALITY AND THE [01:30:08] GARLAND MAPS AND THE SURVEY AND FEW PEOPLE WEREN'T NOTIFIED. THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SO TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN ORDER. UM AND THE APPLICANT AGREED TO LET US READ HERE IT AND NOTIFY OTHER FOLKS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. AND UH, I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ONE. I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO IS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. OKAY COME ON DOWN, SIR. AND THEN I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. IF THERE ANY ISSUES, AND IT FEELS STATE YOUR NAME LETTERS IN THE MICROPHONE FOR US. ADRIAN RAY 51 24. ANDERSON CIRCLE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY? JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THAT AREA, AND MAINLY TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. UM ORIGINALLY , UM, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY , IT WAS 600 ROSE HILL ROAD, AND THEN THEY DID THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEY'VE KIND OF CHANGED IT OVER TO MORE OF A CULT TO SACK ON THAT AND MY PROPERTY NOW. THE BACK OF IT SITS ON ROSE HILL, AND THEY CHANGED IT TO ANDERSON CIRCLE, AND IT'S ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL SLASH AGRICULTURE. SO MY QUESTION IS AGAIN WITH THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THIS LOT IS THAT THE ENTIRE AREA IS THAT THE OR IS JUST A LOT. I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE. IT'S HIS LIGHT ONLY. ONLY THE ONE LOT AND THE ONLY REASON HE'S IS YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE IN AGRICULTURE, BUT I THINK IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST AN ACRE OR TWO ACRES TO ACRES. HIS LOT IS UNDER TWO ACRES. SO IN ORDER TO BUILD A HOUSE, HE HAS TO CHANGES OWNING ON IT. OKAY AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY PROPERTY IS OWNED FOR COMMERCIAL AND JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THE INTENTIONS OF THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH NOW THAT THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED WITHIN THAT CULTURE SACK. UM ARE THERE PLANS TO REZONE THAT OR IS THAT JUST BASED ON IF SOMEONE APPLIES FOR HE APPLIED FOR IT? AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY THAT, UH, WE CAN'T CALL ZONING CITY COUNCIL. THEY HAVE TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW. AND I SAW THE PROPERTY. WHEN I RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ON THE MAP. THERE WAS THE LOT THAT WAS OUTLINED, BUT THE WAY THE MAP WAS DRAWN, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS THAT LADDER THAT ENTIRE AREA AND THEN THE ENTIRE AREA WAS LIKE RIGHT AGAINST WHERE THE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE NOTED THE RED CIRCLES. YES, SIR. NO, THE CIRCLE WAS THE NOTIFICATION . THAT'S EVERYONE WHO GOT LETTERS THAT CIRCLE BUT THE HIGHLIGHTED PROPERTY AND KIND OF THE DARK COLOR. THE GRAY IS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN APPLIED TO THE REZONING. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS JUST TO UNDERSTAND IF POTENTIALLY ABOUT PROPERTY WOULD BE REZONED AS LEWIS. THANK YOU APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN AND ASKING THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. YES CAN WE ASK THE SPEAKER TO FILL OUT A CARD, PLEASE? OKAY YEAH, IF YOU'LL FILL OUT A CARD AT THE PLAN COMMISSIONER SECRETARY'S DESK. ALREADY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? WE SHOULD SPEAK IN THIS ITEM. CNN JOURNAL, ENTERTAINING MOTION AND DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. MY COMMOTION. WE APPROVED THE REQUEST TO STATED ALREADY HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND THE SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER AUBIN TO APPROVE THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO S F 10. I'VE SEEN NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. STILL SETTING IT UP. THERE YOU GO. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND I LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH STAFF AND GETTING IT ALL CLEANED UP FOR US. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY [Items 3D & 3E] THE NEXT CASE IS ANOTHER TWO PARTER CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SAMMY'S GARLAND LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISIONS FOR CARWASH. AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE ON PROPERTIES OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2461 BELTLINE ROAD AND ITEM THREE E CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF SAMMY'S GARLAND. LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL. HAVE A PLAN FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE PROPERTIES OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL SAME ADDRESS. AND SEE. THREE D OKAY, I'VE GOT TO APPLICANT CARDS. ONE OF BOTH OF YOU WANT TO COME UP. [01:35:06] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M NATHAN CHANDLER TO 7 TO 7 LBJ, DALLAS, TEXAS. AND I WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PLANS FOR MEMBERSHIP BASED PROFESSIONAL EXPRESS CAR WASH. BELTLINE. UM OUR VISIONS TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE STATE OF THE ART EXPRESSED TUNNEL OUT OF WASH. SYSTEM THAT WILL PROVIDE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND CONSUMERS. FIRST CLASS QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITY AND EXPERIENCE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERSERVED. EXPERTS RECOMMEND BI WEEKLY CAR WASHING TO MAINTAIN VALUE CONDITION AND SAFETY OF YOUR VEHICLE. UH, OUR PROJECT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE IMPLEMENT THE LATEST TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES THAT HAVE, UM BEEN QUITE EXTENSIVE IN RECENT YEARS AND THE CARWASH INDUSTRY IN OUR CAR WASHES OUR ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY VERSUS AT HOME AND SELF SERVE CAR WASHING, AND WE'RE ALSO, UM, COMMITTED. COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR LOCAL CLUBS, ORGANIZATIONS. NONPROFITS WAY FOR KIDS TO RAISE MONEY WITHOUT GOING DOOR TO DOOR SELLING CANDY. UM AND SPEAKING TO THE UNDER SUPPLIED CONSUMER AMENITY. EXPRESS CAR WASHING OFFERS THE SPEED AND CONVENIENCE INCREASINGLY DEMANDED BY CONSUMERS. AND CONSUMERS LOOKING FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THAT SAVE TIME AND MONEY TO BE IMPORTANT. MY PARTNER AND I ARE LOCAL, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE A ENHANCED MEMBERSHIP EXPERIENCE AND BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THE REASON WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS IS BECAUSE THAT STATE YOU SEE THERE THE PROPORTION THE U. S CUSTOMERS WATCHING THEIR VEHICLES. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHANGE FROM 1996 TO 2019 SIGNIFICANT THERE'S A ABOUT 77 A HALF PERCENT OF PEOPLE NOW LOOKING FOR PROFESSIONAL CAR WASHES. UM THE NUMBER OF THAT WOULD REQUIRE IN THE THREE MILE RADIUS WOULD BE 218,000 PER MONTH. THERE'S CURRENTLY ONLY 44,000 WASHES PER MONTH AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA, AND SHAME IS LED ANOTHER 73 50. PER MONTH. ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY LOCATED PROVIDE SAFETY AND UH, OF THE VEHICLES AND THAT'S PASSENGERS. THIS IS A MAP OF THE. COMPETITION IF YOU WILL , AND THE THREE MILE RADIUS THAT PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH. THE POPULATION OF THAT AREA IS 100 AND 34,000. FOR DRIVERS. THERE'S ABOUT 100,000. AND, UM. THE PROFESSIONAL CARWASH CUSTOMERS BEING 77% OF THAT MAKES ABOUT 78,000 PEOPLE A MONTH. UM AND WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD CAR WASHES THAT'S 218 CAR WASHES A MONTH. AGAIN INCLUDING SAMMY'S, THERE WOULD BE 51,000 CAR WASHES AVAILABLE. UM ARE OUR PROPERTY WAS OPEN FROM 8 TO 8. IT'S A FULLY UNIFORM PROFESSIONAL STAFF. UM NO LOITERING, LOITERING OR NOISE PERMITTED NO AFTER HOURS ACCESSIBILITY AND WE HAVE FULL SECURITY. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE CURRENTLY AND SOME RENDERINGS OF OUR FACILITY. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN TO POINT OUT THE CAR STACKING, UM. AS WE GET TO TRAFFIC LATER, THE ABILITY FOR THE SITE TO HANDLE MORE CARS THAN IT EVER WILL. UM MAKES IT SO THAT NO CARS ARE STACKED UP EVER IN THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE. UM, ENVIRONMENTALLY. PROFESSIONAL CAR WASHES SAVE WATER BY USING HIGH PRESSURE NOZZLES AND PUMPS. UM, THEY GIVE A PROFESSIONAL WITH. PROFESSIONAL WASH WITH A FRACTION OF THE WATER THAT A HOME CARWASH USES. UM WE USE CHEMICALS THAT ARE BIODEGRADABLE AND THE WATER IS RECYCLED ON SITE AND FILTERED BEFORE EVER ENTERS THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. UM VERSUS HOME CAR WASHING THAT HAS EVERYTHING GOES STRAIGHT INTO THE SEWER. UM. AT THE BOTTOM. THERE'S A KIND OF A TELLING STAT AT HOME WITH THE GARDEN HOSE RUNNING. YOU'RE USING 100 AND 5250 GALLONS TO WASH YOUR CAR. OUR CAR WASHES WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES AND THE RECYCLING ONLY USE 15 TO 28 GALLONS PER CAR. BELTLINE ROAD TRAFFIC. UM ESPECIALLY WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT CAN REALLY BACK UP. THERE ARE PROPOSED PROJECT HAS ACCESS THAT SHARES WITH THE ASSISTED LIVING, UM THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON THE PLANNING FOR THIS SITE. THEY'VE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS AND, UM THE PROJECT AGAIN ALLOWS FOR 26 VEHICLES TO STACK PRIOR TO AND IN THE CAR WASH AND HAS ROOM FOR OVER 50 [01:40:02] CARS. BOTH OF THOSE ARE FAR MORE THAN WE WOULD EVER EXPECT AT ONE TIME. UM AND THE AVERAGE TIME ON SITES ONLY 10 MINUTES. AS FAR AS NOISE LEVELS. UM THIS IS A STAFF THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE WHEN WE'RE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL UM, BUT JUST FOR REFERENCE WHEN WE'RE REMEMBER NEXT TO A ROAD LIKE BELTLINE. BELTLINE IS GOING TO BE NOISIER THAN THE CAR WASH . ESPECIALLY HERE. THE NEWER MODELS THAT DONOR AREN'T THE ONLY HAVE 66 DECIBELS FOR THE TUNNEL BLOWERS. THAT'S STANDING 20 FT AWAY. AND THEN AGAIN OUR ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE RIGHT QUALITY JOBS, UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES. UM WE INTERACT WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS, CHURCHES AND CHARITIES AND NONPROFITS. UM ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY IS THAT IT CAN PROVE MINT OF THE CURRENT SITE. AND, UM WERE DESIRABLE FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. AND USE THE LATEST IN TECHNOLOGY. AGAIN LOCAL AVAILABLE FOR CONTACT. WE USE THIS PRESENTATION FOR H O S, AND I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT US, UM BEYOND THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. AND BE VARIABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS HERE. COMMISSIONER ROSE THIS. ON BELTLINE ROAD EAST OF SHILOH. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE. YEAH, SEE? MHM. YES, SIR. SO THE PURPLE UH, SQUARE THERE IS WEST WEST OF CHANNEL. YOU KNOW THE OLD PAR THREE COURSE DRIVING RANGE. WHAT RIGHT ? YEAH. RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CHURCH. YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. ALREADY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER ART THE VACUUM IS GOING TO BE DONE BY THE CLIENTS. ARE THEY GONNA BE MANUALLY DOING THAT? OKAY YES, SIR. WE PROVIDE ALL THE MATERIALS FOR THEM TO FINISH THEIR CAR WASH. THEY DRIVE THROUGH THE TUNNEL, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY GETS THE OUTSIDE CLEAN. AND THEN YOURSELF VACUUM. AND ON THE VACUUMING, UM, ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST, THEY'VE HAD THE VACUUMING AREA WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EVEN AFTER HOURS WHEN THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY OPERATING THE CAR WASH OUR IS THAT GOING TO BE THE CASE HERE, OR WILL THAT BE CLOSED OFF WILL BE CLOSED OFF THE WE TAKE THE VACUUMS DOWN AND THEY PHYSICALLY DON'T YOU CAN'T NOT THERE. OKAY? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND THERE HAD BEEN. WE'VE HAD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE CLOSER, HAD AN ADJACENCY TO HOMES. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. SO YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A ASSISTED LIVING. IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE. BUT LOOKING AT YOUR DB NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WON'T BE A CHALLENGE AT ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD HAS FOR JOHN YOUNG. OKAY? ANOTHER APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ANY OKAY . I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS . IN THIS CASE. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO, UH SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SEEN NONE. COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER ROSE MR CHAIRMAN, I MOVIE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND APPROVE ITEMS. THE END E. SECOND OKAY, EMOTIONALLY. EXCUSE ME. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS AND DETAILED PLAN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION. ALREADY. ALREADY THAT. PASSES 8 TO 1 AND THE ONE SCREEN STILL HAS A PRESENTATION ON IT. SO I DO NOT KNOW WHO WAS IN OPPOSITION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, AN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU HAD TO GET THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHTY. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ANOTHER TWO PARTER. [Items 3F & 3G] ITEM. THREE F CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION OF QUIT SHELL EVENTS CENTER REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR RECEPTION FACILITY ON A PROPERTY ZONE. PLAN OF ELEMENT DISTRICT 20-40 FOR COMMUNITY OFFICE USES THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED THAT 354 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY AND ITEM THREE G CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF QUINCE CELL EVENTS CENTER REQUESTING APPROVAL. AH A DETAILED PLAN ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY 20-40 [01:45:07] COMMUNITY OFFICE USE THE SAME ADDRESS. AND I BELIEVE WE HAD THE APPLICANT HERE. MINDY ZAMORA. ZAMORA? YEAH. OKAY GOOD EVENING IN THE SAMARA SAMARA, UM , THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND ALSO I'M THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY. THEY GET SULLIVAN CENTER. SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW THIS COME THROUGH THIS, UM WE STARTED GETTING PLANNING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE AT 60 YEARS OLD , SO SHE LOVES HER PARTY. I NEVER USED TO BE TO DOING, UM CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAYS. SO WHENEVER I DECIDE TO DO THE HER BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR THE 16TH, IT WAS AMAZING THING FOR HER. SO THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING COMES TO PLAN THIS AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE EVENT CENTER THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND THEN THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE OPERATION HOURS. WHY THEY JUST LIMITED TO 11 30. AND THEN, UM, BEFORE THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS USING THOSE TIMES JUST FOR WEDDINGS, SO THEY DIDN'T OPEN TO ANOTHER MARKET, SO WE WANT TO GET OPEN TO MARKET. SO FOR 15 YEARS. 16 BIRTHDAY PARTIES ON, UM MORE OPEN TO THE MARKET TO GET MORE REVENUE, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S OR REQUEST TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE PREVIOUS ONE, AND THEN TO CHANGE IT TO GET TALIBAN CENTER AND FOR JUST THE OPERATION HOURS. AND THEN I WAS HERE BEFORE. SO THE QUESTION THEY WERE ABOUT WHY HE'S BEING EXTENDED TOO LONG. IT'S BECAUSE IF WE GOT OPEN TO THE SPANISH PEOPLE THEY LIKE TO BE MORE TIME TO ENJOY THE PARTIES AND THEN ALSO, WE WANT TO GET CLEAN AND LEAVE EVERYTHING IN A GOOD CONDITIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE COMING. EARLY FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A CHICKEN PLACE , SO WE WANT THEM TO BE IN A GOOD AND SAFE AREA. OKAY I THINK I NEED TO GET YOUR ADDRESS IS 354 YEARS INTEREST 8 30. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. VERY ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. BUT COMMISSIONER JENKINSON COMMISSION DALTON QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. CAN WE GET THE PREVIOUS APPLICANTS PRESENTATION FROM YEAH, GOOD POINT. THANK YOU GETTING OUR TECHNICAL WIZARDS OUT HERE AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT ARE. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY INCIDENTS REGARDING THE PROPERTY THAT HAVE NEEDED TO, UH, HAVE HAD THE NEED FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS OR. ANY ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL RESPOND ABOUT YEAH. WE ALREADY AWARE WE ARE ALREADY WORKED WITH THE MARSHAL. THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THERE HAS TO BE FIXED. IT'S ALREADY FIXED. SO WE'RE NOT OPEN YET? BECAUSE WE JUST WAITING FOR THE UPDATE OF THE, UM NAME. I KNOW THEY INFORMATION SO WE'RE CLOSE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE WAITING FOR AND THEN ALSO ABOUT THE STRIPS IS ALREADY DONE, SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING READY? YEAH, FOR YOU IS THERE IS THERE SO I HEARD YOU'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP TO NEW MARKET POTENTIALLY DO YOUNGER AUDIENCES WHO ARE ENERGETIC AND LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF SECURITY PRESENCE. YES ACCORDING TO THE CITY WHAT THEY WERE ASKING, SO WE WERE OFFERING THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, UM. FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE. 15 16 ISN'T THREE O'CLOCK A BIT LIGHT. FOR THEM TO STILL BE. OUT EVEN THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WITH FAMILY TO BE OUT THAT WAY. THAT'S STILL A PRETTY LIGHT TIME. AND MOST OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE TEND TO DEAL WITH. HAVE CLOSING TIMES. NOW, THIS IS CLOSING TIME. THIS IS NOT YOUR CLEANUP TIME. ONE O'CLOCK OR TWO O'CLOCK. WOULDN'T THAT BE A LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE INSTEAD OF THREE? YEAH, IT'S JUST APPEND THE TIME THAT YOU WILL ALLOW US TO BE OPEN. SO WE TRY TO GET LIKE US MUCH AS WEEKEND. SO IF YOU SAY A TWO IT WILL BE PERFECT. SO WE'RE OKAY WITH AS MUCH AS THEY BE MORE THAN 11 30 , SO IT WILL BE PERFECT THIRTIES WAS A BIT EARLIER. IT'S TOTALLY FOR ANY KIND OF A FACILITY LIKE THAT, OKAY? YEAH, I'M MORE. APP TO BE. UH INCLINED TO PICK ONE [01:50:11] OR TWO O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THAT POINT CONVERSATION HERE, OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU. IS THERE . ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEE NONE. COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION MOTION. COMMISSIONER PARIS THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THE MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IS NEEDED. OKAY UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS AND DID I HEAR THE SECOND BAG? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. AND THAT'S TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS. COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I DIDN'T CARE WHAT THE COMMISSIONER DALTON'S QUESTIONING THAT THREE AM SEEMS A BIT OF A STRETCH. I'D BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF ONE OR TWO A.M. UM AND. IN CANDIDLY AH. YOU KNOW, AS THEY SAY NOTHING GOOD EVER HAPPENS. IT DEPENDS ON WHOSE MOM YOU'RE TALKING TO. MY MOM USED TO SAY NOTHING GOOD EVER HAPPENED AFTER 11 PM BUT I KNOW SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE MIDNIGHT OR ONE AM OR OR WHATNOT , OR DARK. YES, UM. SO I MY INCLINATION IS THAT IF WE'RE IF WE EXTEND THE HOURS THAT WE SHORTEN THE LENGTH OF THE S U P SO THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY UM, WITHIN A FEW YEARS IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH IT FOR COUNSEL TO FOR THIS TO COME BACK AND FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THE UH, AT THE OPERATING HOURS AGAIN IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES SO MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO SUPPORT SO I, TOO AM CLOSING TIME, WHICH IS THE SAME AS YOU KNOW, BARS AND WHATNOT OR WHATEVER WE CALL THEM IN IN GARLAND. UM TWO A.M. CLOSING TIME WITH A FIVE YEAR S U P SO THAT IF THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS COUNCIL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. PAIRS, THEN COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER AUBURN. CLARIFIED I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE S U P AND THE TIME SO AT TWO A.M. IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. AND THEN TO SHORTEN THE SNP S U P TO COME BACK. SO THE REVISIT IF THE TIME SHOULD BE ADJUSTED OR ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AND IT'S AN HOUR AND IT'S JUST AN HOUR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND THREE AM, BUT I UNDERSTAND OKAY, SUGGESTING TWO YEARS AND A FIVE YEAR TIME, TWO AM FIVE YEAR TIMELINE. WAIT 585 YEAR TIMELINE OR FIVE YEARS. WHAT IS INITIAL SUGGESTION WAS GO AHEAD. YEAH YEAH, GO FIVE YEARS ON THE S U P SO THAT I HAVE A CONCERN THAT EXTENDING THE HOURS TOO LATE. MAY CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF IN THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR WITH LATE HOURS OR WHATNOT AND A FIVE YEAR S U P WOULD MEAN THAT THEY'D HAVE THOSE THOSE HOURS THAT HAVE THE S U. P FOR FIVE YEARS. AND THEN THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A RENEWAL SO THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN SOME KIND OF PROBLEM WITH THOSE LATE HOURS IF JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO EVENT CENTERS THAT DO HAVE ISSUES WHEN THEY'RE OPEN, PARTICULARLY LATE OR WHATNOT. UM, THEN THEN THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE REVISITED. AND THEN THOSE HOURS COULD BE ADJUSTED OR NOT ADJUSTED JUST SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE 25 YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE IT GETS LOOKED AT AGAIN. CAN I GO THE AVERAGE FOR RECEPTION FACILITIES, USUALLY 10 TO 15. DO YOU THINK THE FIVE YEARS IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE? JUST ASKING JUST WOULD NOT HAVE SUGGESTED IT IF I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCESSIVE, UM IN THIS CASE, AND IT'S NOT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THIS WITH OTHER USES OVER THE YEARS WHERE IF YOU THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CONCERN WE HAD NOT LONG AGO WE HAD A CAMERA FOR I'M SORRY, KIND OF BLURS TOGETHER. IF IT WAS A COUNSELOR HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A TATTOO PARLOR THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED WITH A FIVE YEAR S U P. THEN IT CAME BACK AND WE SAID OKAY, THERE WERE NO PROBLEMS. OKAY, NOW WE'LL GIVE YOU A I THINK WE DID A 15 OR 20. YEAR S U P ON THAT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT ENSURES THAT IT THAT THAT IF YOU'RE KIND OF STEPPING OUT ON SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT IT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM, SO YOU KNOW IF THE HOURS REMAINED 11 30, THEN I DON'T THINK I'D HAVE AN ISSUE WITH [01:55:03] WITH THAT LENGTH OF AN S U P UM RIGHT NOW, BUT EXTENDING THOSE HOURS TO TWO AM DEFINITELY GIVES ME A LITTLE KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IN FIVE YEARS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S SUCCESSIVE TO SAY COME BACK AND TALK TO US. IF THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW YOU GET UP. YOU PULL A POLICE REPORT AND WHATNOT, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES WOULD HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS FOR ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS. UM I DON'T KNOW WHERE DEVELOPMENT NECESSARILY IS GOING IN THAT AREA, BUT I DO SEE THERE ARE APARTMENTS NEARBY. SO YOU MAY GET SOME DIFFERENT KIND OF COMPLAINTS WITH PLACES STAYING OPEN TILL TWO AS OPPOSED TO 11 30, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM A NON ON IT, SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ONEROUS WITH THEM ON FIVE YEARS, AS OPPOSED TO SOME LONGER, BUT FIVE YEARS TO ME IS ENOUGH OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THE IF THE THOSE KINDS OF OURS ARE GONNA CAUSE AN ISSUE. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THE FIVE VERSUS THE AVERAGE OF 10 TO 15. YEAH AND THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS, THERE COULD BE PROBLEMS. ALL THOSE 5 10 15 YEARS, BUT IT DOESN'T GET TO CONSOLE AND POLICE FIRED. THEY JUST DEAL WITH IT AND KEEP DEALING WITH IT . IF IT COMES BACK IN FIVE YEARS , AND COUNCIL CAN CHECK AND GO. OH, CAN WE HELP YOU WITH THIS? AND LET'S YOU KNOW, CHANGE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AT AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN . UM ON THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NEW OPERATOR. WE HAVE A NEW A NEW BUSINESS MODEL, AND WE HAVE NEW HOURS. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW THAT'S GOING ON. AND SO I AM. I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT THREE A.M. IT'S JUST TOO. THAT'S TOO LATE. MY MOM WOULD SAY ANYTHING AFTER MIDNIGHT. DEFINITELY SO IT. UM BUT, UM I'M THINKING I CAN LIVE WITH 25 YEARS SEEMS PRETTY SHORT. I COULD LIVE WITH ANYTHING. IT'S FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, BUT BUT DEFINITELY 20 YEARS. I DON'T SEE THAT BEING VIABLE BUT DEFINITELY SHORTENING THE YEARS AND SHORTENING THE HOURS A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. PREFERRED TO MAKE A SECOND TO THE MOTION IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE EMOTION YET. MAKE THEM UP WELL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS WISHES TO SPEAK SO SOMEBODY ALREADY MADE IT. ACTUALLY CUT COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. I'M ACTUALLY IN BETWEEN COMMISSIONER AUBURN AND THE COMMISSIONER PAIRS AND COMMISSIONER DALTON. UM I WILL AGREE THAT THREE A.M. IS LIKELY TOO LATE. I DID HEAR THE APPLICANTS SAY THAT SHE WAS WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE AS IT RELATES TO THE HOURS OPERATION. WHICH I HEAR UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF. SO WE'RE IN BETWEEN THIS IDEA THAT ONE AND TWO ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, JUST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. UM I WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PARIS, THOUGH, THAT THE S U. P S REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE MORE IN LINE TO THE AVERAGE OF THE CITY PRODUCES AS OPPOSED TO THE, UH, ASSUMPTION OF THE BASIS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW OPERATOR, THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR INCONSISTENT I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO, UH TO APPROVE OR TO SUPPORT A REQUEST FOR 10 YEARS, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM AVERAGE TIME. THAT'S PROVIDED FOR THE CITY. I ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY APPLIED TO THE ORDINANCE , WHICH THE APPLICANT DID NOT, UH, ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS OR OR OR CHANGE IN ANY SORT OF WAY AND THOSE CONDITIONS INCLUDE SECURITY, NOISE, LOITERING AND LITTER AND DEBRIS. THE APP THERE HAVE BEEN NO CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT ANY PREVIOUS POINT IN TIME. I'VE GOT NOTHING THAT INDICATES TO ME THAT THERE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, ANY MOTION BETWEEN ONE AND WITH THE CLOSING HOURS OF ONE OR TWO IN THE SCP BEING 10 YEARS, I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS AND THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON. I WAS GOING TO ASK TO CLOSE THIS DISCUSSION AND MAKE A MOTION. BUT SEE, UH DALTON HAS. OKAY YOU YOU'RE JUST COMMENT. OKAY, SO MY MOTION IS TO, UH, IS TO CHANGE THE OPERATING HOURS TO TWO AM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER UH, OTHER. OTHER RECEPTIONS AREAS WHERE WE GO DOWN THIS ROUTE IS HOW I SEE IT . AND THEN THE S U P FOR 10 YEARS AT THE MINIMUM TO BE WITHIN THAT AVERAGE OKAY? FORGIVE ME TO CLOSE IT. YEAH. MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE. CONDITIONS THAT. YES YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. THANK YOU BEFORE BOTH THE S U P AND DETAILED PLAN. CORRECT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY EMOTION BY [02:00:04] COMMISSIONER PAIRS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION WITH THE PROVISION THAT TWO A.M. B THE CLOSING TIME AND ISSUE P WOULD BE FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS. COMMISSIONER DALTON THANK YOU, UH, COMMENTING JUST AFTER YOUR EMOTION, WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH. AH, I THINK TWO A.M. AND 10 YEARS IS APPROPRIATE. JUST BUILDING IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NOT TONS OF RESIDENTIAL . THERE'S NOT TONS OF APARTMENTS . IT'S SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS I HAPPEN TO READ WAS THAT THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME NOISE MITIGATION. IN THE BUILDING THAT WILL EVEN PREVENT ANY OUTSIDE NOISE. SO JUST WHEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, VERY COMFORTABLE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALREADY WE HAVE EMOTION TO SUMMARIZE AGAIN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. AND UH, AND DETAILED PLAN. BE IT. WELL, NO, WE DON'T. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH WE GOT THE TWO PART OF 42 AM CLOSING AND A 10 YEAR TIMELINE. ALRIGHTY. THIS VOTE. PASTOR UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY NEXT CASES ANOTHER TWO PARTER ITEM. THREE H [Items 3H & 3I] CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF CLAY CHRISTIE CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH ON A PROPERTY ZONE. INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED 119 EAST BUCKINGHAM ROAD AND ITEM THREE. I CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF CLAY CHRISTIE CLAIM OR ENGINEERING. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH AND PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. IN THE APPLICANT IS HERE. DREW DUNSKY. DON'T DOMANSKI. YOU'RE CORRECT THAT FOR ME, I HOPE I'M GOOD AT MISPRONOUNCING NAMES. DREW DANOWSKI 19 OH THREE. CENTRAL, DR BEDFORD, TEXAS SWEET 406. UM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WE'VE GOT A S U P REQUEST FOR AN EXISTING MCDONALD'S ON BUCKINGHAM ROAD. UM WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A SECOND DRIVE THRU LANE. AND PART OF THIS REQUEST, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS NON CONFORMING AND PARKING STANDARDS. ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET IS TYPICAL. THAT'S WHAT UM, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES. UM, WHILE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING REMAINS BASICALLY THE SAME WERE RE SKINNING THE BUILDING WITH A NEW FACADE AND ADDING A DRIVE THROUGH UM, WE'VE DONE A PARKING STUDY. WE VISITED THE SITE FOUR TIMES AT NO POINT WHERE THERE EVER ANY MORE THAN 21 SPACE IS BEING USED, AND MCDONALD SAYS REVIEW THEIR SALES AND 60% OF THEIR SALES COME THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, SO WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT ADDING TO THE CAPACITY OF THE DRIVE THRU IS, UM GOING TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS AS FAR AS PARKING OR TRAFFIC GOES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ART . GOOD EVENING. UM THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM MY BUSINESS, ROTARY PERFORMANCE AND. NOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS. THIS PARTICULAR MCDONALD'S. THIS IS FABULOUS. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. GETTING A GETTING BUILT AND COMPLETED. WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME ON GETTING THIS DONE? THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I FEEL LIKE I WAS HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE ASKED FOR THIS, UM WE WERE MESSING WITH THE DRIVE THRU LAYOUT AT THAT TIME, IT WASN'T A FULL DUAL DRIVE THRU LANE. I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A TANDEM, WHICH THEY DID. UM IT'S JUST NOT AS EFFICIENT. THE TANDEM IS. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT. ORDER APPROPRIATELY AND HAVING THE SECONDARY LANE REALLY HELPS SPEED THINGS UP. IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE? WHAT WHAT'S ANOTHER MCDONALD'S IN THE AREA? THAT'S THAT WOULD HAVE WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. OKAY EVERY NEWS STORY STYLE. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING AROUND TOWN. ADDING THESE ANYWHERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ONE AND EVEN THE ONES THAT WERE SOME OF THE FIRST IMPLEMENT THEM. WHERE UPDATING THEM WITH DIGITAL MENU BOARDS, OR, YOU KNOW THE NEW SIGNING REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING THEIR SITES YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THEIR BRAND EXCELLENT. WELL THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THIS. UM, THIS SITE. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH, WE ALL APPRECIATE YOUR [02:05:06] REINVESTING IN THE CITY LIKE THIS AND JUST BRINGING IT UP TO YOUR CURRENT STANDARDS OF GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE KNOW AUDIENCES? AND THIS ITEM, NO COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. MR CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER, ART. WELL, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT WE PASS BELIEVE THIS IS A TWO PART OF THAT WE THAT SECTION H AND I AND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, AS PRESENTED THANK YOU. HMM OKAY, WHICH WHICH SECOND WAS FIRST, THIS ONE. OKAY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ARTIST SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THAT IS TO PROVE THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR THE RESTAURANT AND THE PLAN FOR THE RESTAURANT. NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. IN THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT AND JUST TO KEEP THINGS CLEAN. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ IT. CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF JP THREE CONSULTING LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT TO MULTI FAMILY MF ONE DISTRICT PROPERTY IS LOCATED 2700 WEST WALNUT. AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS CASE UNTIL OUR FEBRUARY 27TH MEETING. DO I HEAR A CHAIR? OKAY, GO AHEAD. COMMISSION DALTON. YEAH I COULDN'T TELL WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONED. PART OF THE APPLICANTS REQUEST SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON'S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AUBIN TO POSTPONE THE APPLICATION UNTIL FEBRUARY, 27TH. ALREADY. COMMISSIONER DALTON. I TAKE IT. YOU WERE FOUR. YOUR VOTE DIDN'T REGISTER. SHE'S ALREADY REGISTERED THE BOAT, SO I TAKE IT TO FOUR YEAR OLD MOTION, SIR. OKAY LET THE RECORD SHOW COMMISSIONED. DALTON VOTED FOR HIS OWN MOTION. THERE WAS LIFE SETTLEMENT, ARJUNA BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING WE HAVE IN WITH THE NEW COMMISSIONER AND WE HAVE A LONG TIME 13 YEAR COMMISSIONER LEAVING US TONIGHT. THIS IS LAST MEETING COMMISSIONER ART THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING. AND GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING, BUT I AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION AND STAFF I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR. INPUT AND YOUR SERVICE ALL THESE 13 YEARS. I COULD ALWAYS LOOK TO YOU FOR WHY IS IT VICE AND INPUT AND EVERYTHING MORE THAN ONE OCCASION? GO PARDON? I THINK OF THAT. BUT GO AHEAD AND THERE'S ONE THING I WANT TO DO FIRST, AND I'D LIKE TO DO WHEN YEAH. MOVE. HE'S WALKING OUT ON YOU TAKING OFF YOUR NAME OF LIKE. COULD HAVE WAITED BLACK. YES. WOW! 13 YEARS. UM I'D LIKE TO FIRST MENTIONED IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE TO HAVE SERVED AS THE PLAN. COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT EIGHT AND VICE CHAIRMAN OF THIS GROUP. UM THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ENTRUSTED ME WITH THIS POSITION AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN DARREN LATHAN. FOR ORIGINALLY APPOINTED ME TO THIS POSITION IN 2010 AND THANK YOU. ALSO TO COUNCILMAN JIM CAHILL AND OUR CURRENT DISTRICT EIGHT. COUNCILMAN ROBERT JOHN SMITH. UM IT'S BEEN SEVEN CONSECUTIVE COUNCIL TERMS AND ALMOST 13 YEARS. I'LL NEVER FORGET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE I'VE SERVED WITH YOUR WISDOM AND COUNSEL HAS MADE ME A MUCH BETTER AND MORE A ROUNDED PERSON. I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE OF GARLAND AND SPECIFICALLY DISTRICT EIGHT. NEVER A BETTER GROUP OF FOLKS COULD BE FOUND ALSO, UM, ALSO, THANK YOU TO THE GARLAND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND FRIENDLINESS IS A MODEL OF HOW TO GET THINGS DONE. AND WITH THAT I'M OFFICIALLY STEPPING DOWN FROM THE DISTRICT EIGHT PLAN COMMISSION POSITION. I'LL BE FORMALLY FILING AS A CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT EIGHT FOR CITY COUNCIL TOMORROW. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE AND A FUTURE CAPACITY AND BEST REGARDS TO YOU ALL. AND UH, MR CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HMM. ALREADY WELL. I GUESS THAT WAS TECHNICALLY THE [02:10:01] LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 27TH WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.