[Public Safety Committee on April 18, 2023.]
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WE ARE ABOUT TO START OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.AND, UM, AND THE AGENDA NUMBER ONE, APPROVE OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH, I'M SORRY, OF MARCH THE SIXTH, 2023 MEETING CHAIR.
I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 6TH MEETING.
UH, MINUTES FROM AND SECOND BJ.
IT PASSES NUMBER TWO IN THE ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE, UH, TESTIMONY BE HELD, CONSIDERED, GIVEN.
POLICE CHIEF BRYAN, JEFF BRYAN WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REGARDING BETTER WAYS TO ADDRESS THE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
CHIEF, UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. VERA.
UH, WHEN WE LEFT OFF THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU INSTRUCTED ME TO GO SPEAK, OR OUR STAFF TO GO SPEAK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CRIME WATCH CAPTAINS TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY INPUT ON THIS ISSUE, AND THEN TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE THE, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE US.
WE DID NOT HAVE A CRIME WATCH COORDINATOR'S MEETING DURING THAT TIME.
UH, THERE WAS NOT ONE SCHEDULED, BUT WE DID IT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, UH, WITH MANY OF OUR CRIME WATCH CAPTAINS.
AND WE ASKED THEM OF TWO QUESTIONS.
WE ASKED 'EM FIRST WITHOUT TELLING THEM WHY WE WERE TALKING TO HIM, WE ASKED 'EM, WHAT ARE THE TOP THREE, UH, ISSUES YOU'RE HAVING IN YOUR AREA? AND, UM, I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN WE ASKED 'EM THAT QUESTION, NO ONE SAID LOUD MUSIC.
THEY WERE PRETTY CONSISTENT ON ONE AND TWO.
UM, MOST, MOST OF THE ISSUES WERE DRIVING SPEEDING, STOP SIGNS, LOUD CARS, RACING, UH, HOMELESSNESS.
UM, BUT THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WE ASKED THEM WAS ABOUT THE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
I WISH I HAD GOOD NEWS TO GIVE YOU THAT THEY GAVE US SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS, BUT I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, ANY NEW IDEAS TO SHARE WITH YOU COMING FROM THE CRIME WATCH CAPTAINS.
AND SO NOW I'M HERE TO SEEK DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WANNA PROCEED NEXT.
WELL, UM, CHIEF, HOW, HOW MANY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE CALLS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED? LIKE THE, I WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS 64,000 LAST YEAR, I THINK.
UH, YEAH, I W I DIDN'T BRING THAT, BUT YES.
UM, SO DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DUPLICATE CALLS WHERE SOMEONE HAS CALLED AGAIN AND SAID, LOOK, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT TURNING THEIR MUSIC DOWN.
AND MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S WE LUMP THE DUPLICATE CALLS INTO ONE CALL SHEET, UH, IF IT'S THE SAME LOCATION.
SO WE DID NOT SEPARATE OUT THE, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT I CAN PULL THAT.
UM, I, I JUST, IF I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EGREGIOUS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE'S A PARTY GOING ON OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
IF, IF IT'S A MULTI MULTIPLE CALL SITUATION, UM, I, YOU KNOW, IS IS IT PRETTY MUCH LIKE A, A GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL RECEIVE A TICKET FOR NOISE VIOLATION OR HOW, HOW DO THE OFFICERS HANDLE THAT? USUALLY? WELL, UM, WE IF STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO, UH, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THEM IF IT'S MULTIPLE CALLS, UH, MULTIPLE INCIDENTS TO ISSUE A CITATION.
NOW, IF THE COMPLAINANT DOES NOT WANT TO BE CONTACTED AND THE POLICE SHOW UP AND THEY CAN'T HEAR THE VIOLATION, OR IT'S NOT A VIOLATION AT THE TIME THAT THEY SHOW UP, UH, THEY CAN'T WRITE A CITATION UNLESS, UNLESS THEY WITNESS SOME PART OF THE, THE VIOLATION.
BUT YES, IF IT'S MULTIPLE CALLS, AND HERE WE ARE AT THE SAME PLACE AGAIN, I PROMISE YOU THAT THE OFFICER DOES NOT WANT TO COME OUT A THIRD TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE START ISSUING CITATIONS.
WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ISSUES SOMETIMES TOO OF THE INDIVIDUALS NOT ANSWERING THE DOOR.
THEY KNOW WHO'S KNOCKING AND SO THEY DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR.
UH, SO WE CAN LEAVE A CITATION, UH, IN THE MAILBOX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO SHUT THE PARTY DOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO IN AND UNPLUG THE MUSIC.
UH, WE CAN GIVE CITATIONS AND TICKETS TO 'EM, BUT THAT'S NOT A DETERRENCE TILL THE NEXT DAY.
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AND IT MAY BE WORTH IT TO THEM TO CONTINUE WITH THE PARTY, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT A, HOWEVER MUCH THE TICKET IS A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS TICKET.SO IF, UM, WHEN DO YOU KIND OF TURN IT OVER TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? IF IT'S A HOUSE THAT'S MAKING NOISE, YOU KNOW, OFTEN DURING THE WEEKENDS WITH PARTIES AND EVERYTHING, DO YOU, WHEN WHEN DOES IT BECOME A HEALTH DEPARTMENT ISSUE? AND WHEN WE, WE DON'T TURN IT OVER TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE ADDRESS IT.
UH, WE ADDRESS IT THROUGH CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS.
NOW IF WE NEED THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO COME IN, UM, TO MEASURE NOISE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'VE GOT A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINING WE DON'T REALLY HEAR.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET A TRUE MEASUREMENT OF THE NOISE.
WE MAY CALL THEM IN, BUT AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT, WE TAKE ALL THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE REALLY FRUSTRATING THINGS.
MY, UH, MY IN-LAWS CALLED ME LAST WEEK.
MY IN-LAWS CALLED ME LAST WEEK AND THEY WERE LIKE, THERE'S THIS HOUSE AND EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND, THEY JUST PLAY MUSIC UNTIL THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING.
I SAID, WELL, YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO CALL THE POLICE AND LET THEM KNOW.
AND I'LL, I'LL LET MS, I'LL LET COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS KNOW AS WELL,
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I THINK MAYBE WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THAT SITUATION, THEY'RE TRYING TO SLEEP AND IT'S LOUD.
THEY JUST, THEY JUST WANT, THEY WANT TO STOP.
AND, AND THESE CALLS, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE, THE COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE CALLS THAT THE OFFICERS RECEIVE, I KNOW THEY'RE DOWN ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND IT, AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT CRIMES GOING ON OR WHATEVER THE CRIMES MAY BE.
UM, I JUST, I, I JUST WANT THEM TO HAVE A, A BETTER OUTLET.
OR MAYBE WE NEED TO INFORM OUR CONSTITUENTS BETTER, OUR RESIDENTS BETTER.
OR HOW DO WE BRIDGE THAT GAP TO WHERE THOSE 64,000 CALLS THAT THEY GET LAST YEAR ONLY RESULT IN 60 TICKETS AND ONLY, AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THOSE NUMBERS AND IT SEEMS LIKE, WELL, ONLY 60 PEOPLE WERE PUNISHED
WELL, UM, A COUPLE THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION WITH YOUR PARENTS, HAVE THEY TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS? WELL, THE, YEAH.
THE NPO, YOU KNOW, CUZ THE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKEND NIGHTS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR CAD AND THEY'VE GOT 15 CALLS HOLDING AND THEY'RE CALL TO CALL, CALL TO CALL.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT HAVE THE TIME AND HAVE THE RESOURCES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE NPOS IS FOR A SITUATION JUST LIKE THAT, THOSE REOCCURRING CONSTANT NEIGHBORHOOD NUISANCE COMPLAINTS.
AND THEY CAN ALSO ISSUE CITATIONS, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A COMPLAINANT AFTER THE FACT.
SO THEY CAN COME IN WHEN WE GET OUR LOUD MUSIC REPORT AND ISSUE A CITATION AFTER THE FACT.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE 64 CITATIONS FOR LOUD MUSIC, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 70 WE ISSUE TO THOSE HOUSES.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HOUSE LIKE YOU MAY HAVE NEXT TO YOUR PARENTS, UM, AND THE NPO GETS NOTIFIED, OKAY, NOW YOU'VE ENTERED OUR RADAR, YOU'RE NOT COOPERATING WITH US.
UH, THE CITATIONS THAT FOLLOW THAT ARE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, UH, IT USUALLY IF WE'RE HAVING THAT PROBLEM, WE'RE HAVING OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.
CHIEF MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT ADDRESS.
SOUND LIKE WE'VE GOT A CHRONIC, A REPEATED OPINION
MOST, MOST OF THE FOLKS, MOST OF THE NO PARTIES, MY DISTRICT OR BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR BABIES OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO SEE YOUR N PO SHOW UP, UH, THEY'LL COME OVER AND I, I'VE HAD HAD NOTES LEFT AT MY HOUSE.
UH, CAUSE WE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A BIRTHDAY FOR MY BABY, UH, FRIDAY FROM SEVEN TO NINE.
BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME CASES WHERE THE NPOS HAVE SHOW NOW.
AND, UH, I WAS AT, I WAS, I WAS, I HAPPENED TO BE, UH, UM, STANDING THERE AND WHEN NEED ENFORCE THAT TO NOW I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE.
AND IT ENDED UP WHERE THE NPO CAME BACK AND THE PERSON IS JUST MOVED, UM, BECAUSE PRESSURE, THE NAME BOOK NPOS DID.
UM, AND EXACTLY WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
UH, WHAT QUESTION FOR YOU IS, IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, AS AS COUNCIL LADY LOOKS AT
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THE SCHEME OF THINGS, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA, LET'S SAY IN, UH, IN A TOUR, PARTICULARLY NIGHTS, THE IDEA OF PERCENTAGE OF TIMES THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE SPENDING RESPONDING TO NOISE OR, UM, CAUSE MOST OF IT HAPPENED DURING THE NIGHT, EVENINGS NIGHT SHIFT.DO YOU, DO YOU, DO YOU KEEP TRACK? DO YOU HAVE ANY BALLPARK IDEA HOW MUCH I I CAN GIVE YOU A GUESSTIMATE.
YOU GAVE, YOU GIVE A GUESSTIMATE CHIEF, I I WOULD SAY 10, 15% DEALING WITH LOUD MUSIC PARTIES.
UH, AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE LOUD CARS.
YOU KNOW, THE LOUD CARS ARE A WHOLE, UH, DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PART OF IT.
BUT AS FAR AS LOUD MUSIC AND PARTIES, PROBABLY 10 TO 15% ON WEEKEND NIGHTS IS WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING.
WHAT I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT OUR NPOS ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT YOU SAY THEY WERE DOING.
EVERY INSTANCE THAT I'VE HAD, PARTICULARLY CHRONIC ONES LIKE YOUR PARENTS.
YOU KNOW, AND I TELL FOLKS, I HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR CHRONIC CASES, SO WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS YOUR NPOS.
AND IN EACH EACH CHRONIC INSTANCE, THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT AND HAD A CONVERSATION.
AND, AND EVERY CASE I CAN THINK OF IT WORKED, UH, BECAUSE PARTICULARLY IF THEY DID A SECOND VISIT, LIKE MOST FOLKS, UNLESS THEY REALLY OUT IN SPACE, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY DON'T, THEY'RE KNOCK AT THE DOOR THE SECOND TIME FROM THE NPOS.
AND I'VE GOTTEN THE FEEDBACK FROM SOME FOLKS, RIGHT.
THEY DON'T LIKE YOUR GUYS SHOWING UP FOR A SECOND TIME, SO RIGHT.
THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT CHRONIC PROBLEM LOCATIONS, EVEN IF IT'S LOUD MUSIC, DRUGS, WHATEVER.
RACING CARS, MOTORCYCLES, WHATEVER.
THE SECOND GONNA CUT BY GUNSHOTS THAT I DO ABOUT NOISE.
THANK, YOU KNOW, IN MY DISTRICT HOW WE, I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE, THEY WERE COMPLAINING TO ME AND I TOLD THEM THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE GONNA HAVE A PARTY, THEY DIDN'T GO AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY DIDN'T GO AND SAY, UH, JOE BLOW, I'M GONNA HAVE A PARTY, UH, YOU KNOW, TILL ABOUT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T SAY NOTHING TO PEOPLE.
SO THEN YOU, I HAVE A PARTY AND YOU COME OVER, YOU HEAR MY NOISE AND ALL THAT.
I HAD A, A LADY ON EDGEWOOD, BOY, SHE WAS TOUGH AND SHE WANTED, SHE WAS SINGLE YOUNG GIRL, BUT 35 WANTED TO KEEP THIS GUY FROM MAKING NOISE ON THE OTHER STREET, BUT THEY WERE BACKED UP TO EACH OTHER.
AND, UH, THE POLICE CAME AND, UH, SHE WAS WORKED FOR KI AND SHE HAD A NOISE DEAL AND HE RECORDED, THE GUY CROSSES ON THE BACKYARD AND SAID, THIS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, AND SHOWED IT TO THE POLICE, YOU KNOW.
ANYWAY, THAT GUY KEPT ON DOING IT.
SO THE POLICE WENT AND TALKED TO HIM THE EMPTY, HE SAID, IF I HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN ONE MORE TIME TONIGHT, I'M GONNA WRITE YOU UP AND TICKET IT.
AND THAT TOOK CARE OF IT BECAUSE THE GUY, YOU KNOW, THEY ALREADY TOLD HIM, WE GOT YOUR REGISTER ON HOW HIGH YOUR MUSIC IS AND ON THAT AND YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT IS THEY DON'T TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE NEIGHBORS.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANT TO HAVE, LIKE COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS SAYING, WANT TO HAVE A PARTY FOR KIN SAN, YOU KNOW, 15 YEAR OLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND, AND THEY HAVE A PART, IT'S ALL, THEY CAN UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
AND IT'S LESS PROBLEMS, BUT A LOT OF 'EM DON'T GO AND TELL YOUR NEIGHBOR, HEY, I'M GOING TO HAVE A PARTY IN MY CIRCLE.
WHAT THEY DO, THEY INVITE EVERYBODY,
BUT ABOUT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK THEY START LIKE FIVE O'CLOCK, FOUR O'CLOCK, ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK.
SO, WELL, AND HOPEFULLY YOU UNDERSTAND, WE, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO AND
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WE CAN DO BETTER AND WE'LL MAKE A PUSH WITH OUR OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKEND NIGHTS, TO LET'S START WRITING MORE TICKETS AND LESS TOLERANCE ON THIS.AND I, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THOSE TICKET NUMBERS GO UP AND THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE AND WE'LL GIVE THEM GUIDANCE.
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT WRITING AFTER THE FACT TICKETS.
DOES THAT, I ASSUME THAT REQUIRES THE COMPLAINANT TO COMPLAINT? YES.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LET NEIGHBORHOODS KNOW AND YEAH.
AND THEN IN MY DISTRICT WHERE I GET ALL THE COMPLAINTS, THE MUSIC DOES NOT STOP AT 10.
HALF THE TIME IT STARTS AT 10, IT GOES ON TILL FOUR IN THE MORNING VERY LOUD.
SO IT MAKES THEM VERY UPSET, UM, KNOWING THAT THEY CAN, IF THEY COMPLAIN AND SIGN IT, WHICH A LOT OF 'EM ARE TERRIFIED OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S THE SAME NEIGHBORS THAT SHOOT GUNS.
UM, BUT IF THEY DO SIGN A COMPLAINT THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR NEIGHBOR TICKETED FOR SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST GIVES THEM AN OPTION IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE IT.
AND, AND THE OFFICERS ARE SHOULD BE DOING THAT ON THE FIRST TIME THEY SHOW UP.
IF THE NEIGHBOR IS SAYING, I WANT TO FILE, SIGN A TICKET, WE'LL BROUGHT 'EM A TICKET RIGHT THEN.
WHAT OTHER TOOLS THAT I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE IS HE ASSIST, HAVE THAT SO DON'T ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SOUND A COMPLAINT, YOU PUT IT IN ASSIST, IT GOES RIGHT IN AND TELL, I'LL SEND IT, YOU KNOW, SEND PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ASSIST.
THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, I GET THE ADDRESS AND THEY INSIST AND I USUALLY GET A RESPONSE.
SO THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY REMEMBER ATTEMPT EXACTLY RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU DO IT E ORY AND I SHOW THEM, I, I'LL SEND IT IN, I'LL SHOW 'EM AND I'LL, I'LL TYPE IT UP TUESDAY AND I'LL SEND IT AND THEN I'LL, I'LL ALSO SHOW THEM THE RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE E ASSIST AND THAT THAT HAS, THAT HAS HELPED A LOT REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THAT CONCERN THAT SHE MENTIONED.
MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION NOW, IF SOMEBODY SENT IN EESS ASSIST, THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THEM SIGNING A COMPLAINT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WITH ESS ASSIST, WE WON'T SHOW UP THAT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, EESS ASSIST, IF YOU'RE GONNA USE EESS ASSIST FOR THIS, I WOULD DO IT FOR THE CHRONIC LOCATIONS OF, HEY, CAN YOU HAVE THE NPO VISIT THIS HOUSE? IT'S RIGHT.
I'VE USED IT FOR THE CHRONIC LOCATION.
AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH, YOU SEE WITH THE MESSAGE TO LIEUTENANT ST.
SO, SO WE GONNA TAKE CARE OF MOM.
ORDINANCE WISE, THERE'S NOTHING.
UH, I THINK EVERY TOOL ORDINANCE WISE IS THERE.
UH, WE, THE CITY WROTE AN ORDINANCE, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO TO ADDRESS THIS SO THAT THE OFFICERS COULD WRITE THE TICKET WITHOUT THE COMPLAINANT.
AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THIS.
UM, SO THAT'S THERE, BUT NO, NOTHING ORDINANCE WISE THAT I CAN ON, UH, THE MPOS, WHEN WE, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, THEY WOULD GO TO A HOUSE, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A PARTY, AND UH, THEY WOULD GO AND TELL 'EM THEY HAD TO QUIETEN DOWN AND EVERYTHING, AND THEN THEY, LATER ON THEY HAD TO COME BACK AGAIN.
ABOUT THREE TIMES THEY CAME BACK.
WELL, NOW THEY GO ONE TIME AND TELL 'EM, HEY, Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO QUIETEN DOWN THIS AND THAT, Y'ALL DON'T, YOU BUY IT TO COME BACK AGAIN ONE MORE TIME.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET IT KICKING IN HERE, EVERYBODY.
AND, AND THAT SLOWED EVERYTHING DOWN OVER THERE IN MY DISTRICT.
THE POLICE GOT TIRED OF GOING BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE TWO OR THREE TIMES A NIGHT.
BUT ONCE THEY TOLD 'EM THAT FIRST TIME, THIS IS A WARNING, Y'ALL BETTER CUT IT DOWN.
OR IF WE COME, IF I HAD TO COME BACK LATER, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET A KICK, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
SO THAT QUIET AND EVERYTHING DOWN.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? YOU, NOTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY'S GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WELL, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED.
UH, BEFORE CAN, CAN I ASK BEFORE WE ADJOURNED, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE DIRECTION FOR ME, UH, DO, DO I NEED TO COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNSEL OR, UM, ARE WE FINISHED WITH THE, WITH THE TOPIC? I DON'T, I DON'T
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THINK THAT WE NEED TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL.SO WE'LL, WE'LL FINISH, WE'LL PUT A CONCLUSIONARY SUMMARY AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL, OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW, LIKE IN THE SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR, LIKE HOW, IF, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE IMPROVED SURE.
UH, FOR YOU OR, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A NOTE, UM, AND THEN SIX MONTHS IF I FORGET, REMIND ME.
BUT WE'LL PULL THE DATA AND OKAY.
MR. CHAIR, DO YOU WANT TO CORRECT THE ADJOURN, TOM? UH, THE FOUR.