[ Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
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          GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE APRIL 24TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE WE ARE BRIEFED BY STAFF AND ASK QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH AFTERWARDS. THROUGHOUT THE WORK SESSION PORTION, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. FIRST. I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT OBJECTIVE. ANYTHING UNDER CONSENT OF ENERGY. NOPE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ZONING CASE. THE 20 TO 48 THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO ALLOW 50 TOWN HOUSES AND OPEN SPACE. STEVE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 5.88 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 02 THAT'S 38 FOR MIXED USES. HERE IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. 
          THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR AND THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH OR ZONE PD 0 2-47, P D 81-55. THEY'RE ALL DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST ACROSS CENTERVILLE IS THE NPT. 97-28 THERE IS A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS STATE HIGHWAY 66 IS DONE. PD 96-57 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THERE IS A GAS STATION. AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ALSO ZONE PD 0 2-38. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THE FUTURE LAND USE METHOD ENVISIONED. GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE PROPOSED USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. TOP RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BOTTOM LEFT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. I'M RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF 50 TOWN HOUSES. 
          UM AND TWO H O A LOTS AND THESE TOWN HOUSES ARE SOLAR POWERED AND RENEWABLE ENERGY. THE EXCESS IS FROM THERE'S ONE ACCESS POINT FROM STATE HIGHWAY 66, WHICH IS TEXT DOT RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM TEXT DOT AND THERE IS ALSO AN ACCESS FROM EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. ALL OF THESE ARE ALLEY LOADED LOTS. HOWEVER THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION ON THE DRIVEWAY DEPTH. WHICH THE G D C REQUIRES A TOLL OF 20 FT. AND THEY'RE REQUESTING FIVE FT. AND I WILL GO OVER THAT DEVIATION JUST A MOMENT AND THERE ARE A FEW OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARD DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING. AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE IN JUST A FEW SLIDES. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. PDS ARE 2-38 REQUIRES A 50 FT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AND WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPE OF FOR 15 LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 66. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 10 FT. UM WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THIS LENGTH RIGHT HERE AND THEN WHERE THE KNUCKLES ARE. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE ALSO ASKING TO PRODUCE EVEN FURTHER. THE SOUTHERN KNUCKLE IS ABOUT TWO FT. OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER. ABOUT FOUR FT ON ON THIS KNUCKLE. AND THAT IS DUE TO THE KNUCKLE THAT IS REQUIRED. UM. AND THEN PETE EASIER TO DASH 38 REQUIRES A 30 FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG EAST CENTERVILLE AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A ATTEMPTED WHITE LANDSCAPE. BUFFER. UM AND THEN. TOTAL OF 13 LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE PROVIDED WHERE EIGHT ARE REQUIRED. AND ONE OTHER DEVIATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THESE THEY'RE PROPOSING FENCE. SO THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN PERIMETER ARE MASONRY WALL AND THEN ALONG EAST CENTERVILLE AND STATE HIGHWAY 66 . THE AFRICAN PROPOSES A SIX FT ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH VEGETATION AND THE DEVIATION IS THAT THE VEGETATION IT WILL BE PLACED BEHIND THE FENCE. ALONG EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. IT IS REQUIRED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE FENCE, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE LARGE EASEMENTS AND THE FLOODPLAIN THAT'S ALONG EAST CENTERVILLE, SO THEY DO HAVE TO PUSH IT BACK BEHIND THE FENCE. AND HERE'S THE ELEVATION OF THE MASONRY SCREEN WALL AND THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH THE MASONRY COLUMNS. AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS 
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. IT DOES CONFORM WITH THE ARTICULATION, UM, AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, BUT IT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE PROPOSING ANOTHER LIST OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN JUST A MOMENT. THEN ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I DID NOT INCLUDE IN THE REPORT. UM WITH THAT THEY ARE THEY HAD YOU HAVE AN OVERHANG, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE FT, AND IT MAY BE IN THE SETBACK . SO THAT IS AN DEVIATION THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUESTING. AND HERE'S A THREE D RENDERING. AND HERE IS THE SIGNAGE. UM THEY'RE PROPOSING A TOTAL OF THREE MONUMENTS SIGNS AND THERE ARE SOME SETBACK. DEVIATION UM, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND LET'S GO OVER THAT. AND HERE IS THE DEVIATIONS TABLE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE LOT AREA MINIMUM IS 2000 SQUARE FEET AND YOU'RE PROPOSING 1568 SQUARE FEET. AND THE MINIMUM LOT AREAS BEING REDUCED DUE TO THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE SITE. THE SECOND ONE IS THE LOCKED UP. AND REQUIRED IS 90 FT. PROPOSES A MINIMUM OF 70 FT FOR BLOCK B BLOCK 16. ALL OTHER LOTS WILL HAVE A LOT DEPTH OF 72 FT. THE OVERALL TRACK, GEOMETRY, TOPOGRAPHY AND INCORPORATING NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE CREATES CONSTRAINTS OF THE LIGHT IMPACTING THE LOCKED UP. THE NEXT DEVIATION IS DRIVEWAY DEPTH. THE GC REQUIRES THE DISTANCE FROM THE FACE OF THE GARAGE DOOR. MUST BE AT LEAST 20 FT. FROM THE STREET OR ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY. LIFE AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSALS BY FEET. THE REDUCED LOT DEPTH IMPACTED THE LOT. THE DRIVEWAY DEPTH. THE 20 FT DRIVEWAY ALLOWS THE VEHICLE TO BE PARKED. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A FIVE FT DRIVEWAY TO NOT ALLOW ANY VEHICLES TO BE PARKED. BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, A FEW OTHER GUEST PARKING SPACE AND THE HUFF STREET PARKING AS WELL TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND THE NEXT ONE IS LOT COVERAGE. MAXIMUM ALLOWED PER GDC IS 75% AND PROPOSED, IS 79% THE APPLICANT STATES. THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE SITE REQUIRES AN INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE. NEXT ONE IS LANDSCAPING AND FENCING ALONG EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. THE LANDSCAPING SHOULD BE LOCATED ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE, AND THE LARGE CANOPY TREES AND SHRUBS ARE LOCATED ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, WHICH IS BEHIND THE FENCE. UM THE APPLICANT STATES. THERE ARE LARGE EASEMENTS AND FLOODPLAIN THAT PREVENT THE LANDSCAPING TO BE ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE FENCE. HOWEVER THE FENCES ALONG THE COMMON AREA AND THE TOWN HOUSES ARE SET FURTHER BACK TO MINIMIZE VISIBILITY FROM EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. NEXT ONE IS LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 66. PD 0 TO 38 REQUIRES A 50 FT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND 15 LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE WIT TO BE 10 FT. AND TWO FT AT THE SOUTHERN KNUCKLE. IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 13 CANOPY TREES YOU TO THE KNUCKLE. THE G C REQUIRES THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO BE 15 FT. IN WITH THE APPLICANT STATES, THE FLOODPLAIN EASEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE CAUSED THE REDUCTION OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AND THE NEXT ONE IS LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG A CENTERVILLE ROAD. AND PT 0 TO 38 REQUIRES A 30 FT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER A LOT EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 10 FT WIDE BUFFER. THE NEXT ONE IS SIGNAGE, BUCK. PD 0 TO 30 ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF THREE MONUMENTS SIGN. EACH SIGN SHOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN FT IN HEIGHT AND 50 SQUARE FEET IN SURFACE AREA, EACH SIGN SHOULD BE SHOULD HAVE A SETBACK OF 25 FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES. THREE MONUMENTS. SCIENCE EACH SIGN HAS A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN FT IN HEIGHT AND 50 SQUARE FEET AND SURFACE AREA. SCIENCE SEE IS MORE THAN 25 FT AWAY. SO THAT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PD, HOWEVER, SIGN A HAS AN 11 FT. SETBACK AND SIGNED B HAS A THREE FT SETBACK JUST TO KEEP IN MIND. THE GDC REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF FIVE FT. SETBACK FOR MONUMENTS, SCIENCE. AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS IS DEVIATION DUE TO EASEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSED. NEXT ONE IS COMMON AREA REQUIRED DESPITE 1000 SQUARE FEET AND PROPOSED IS 4612 SQUARE FEET. AND THE LARGE EASTMAN'S REDUCED THE COMMON AREA SPACE. IN THE LAST ONE IS THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, AND THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE. UM THERE IS ANOTHER LIST OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE G C. ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE APPLICANTS BUILDING DESIGN. AND THIS IS THE TABLE TO THE LEFT IS THE REQUIRED ARCHITECTURAL 
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ELEMENTS FOR THE G, D C. AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 0 2-38 FROM MIXED USES TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT. AND WE SENT OUT. 44 LETTERS. UM WE RECEIVED TWO WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST. ONE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST AND RECEIVED A TOTAL OF THREE RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MR DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE THANK YOU. 
          UM UH, I KNOW THE CLOSURE THE CITY GETS TO BUILD OUT, THE TOUGHER IT IS FOR THESE DEVELOPERS. TO PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT AND STAY WITHIN ALL OF OUR GUIDELINES BECAUSE THOSE GUIDELINES WERE HEAVILY PROVIDED WHEN WE HAD MORE SPACE THAT WAS AVAILABLE. THE ONLY THING IN ALL OF THIS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF VARIANTS IN THERE THAT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT, IS A FIVE FT FROM DRIVEWAY STREET TO GARAGE. AND IT WAS SAID THAT IT WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE. 
          HOW DOES THAT KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE? BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE PARK IN THOSE KIND OF PLACES QUITE FREQUENTLY WHEN THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THEN THERE WOULD BE FIVE FT ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE STICKING OUT FIVE FT IN THE STREET, AND THEIR ATTITUDE IS GOING TO BE WELL. IF I WERE PARALLEL PARKED IN THE STREET THAT STILL BE FIVE FT IN THE STREET. SO I'VE THAT ONE CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT HIS ORB IN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE HAVE HAD SOME OTHER TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS. UM THAT HAVE REQUESTED THE FIVE FT DEVIATION. FROM 20 FT. IT IS BECOMING A LITTLE MORE COMMON, UM, WITH TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS. UM AND THE REASON WE ASKED FOR THE FIVE FT IS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THERE HASN'T SOME CHANGES IN OUR TECHNICAL REQUIREMENT WHERE FIVE FT DOES NOT ALLOW THEM. TO EVEN PARK THERE, UM, SO THAT IT WOULDN'T ENCROACH INTO THE ALLEY . UM IT'S EITHER FIVE FT, OR 20 FT. 20 FT WILL ALLOW THEM TO PARK AND THAT'S THE MINIMUM DEMENTIA CAN'T LEGALLY ENCROACH INTO THE STREET WHEN THEY'RE PARKED IN THERE. WHAT HMM. WHAT . ITEM DO WE HAVE THAT CAN BE POLICE THAT PARTICULAR? SITUATION. UH CODE ENFORCEMENT DRIVING BY OR, UH, IS IT ENCROACHING INTO THE FIRE LINE? AND THAT IS WHY WE, UM, REQUESTING THE FIVE FT BECAUSE THEY SHOULD NOT ENCROACH INTO THE FIRE LAND. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN, UM ENFORCE. DO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A MARKED FIRE LINE THROUGH THERE? NOT SURE I'M WITH THE ALLEY ON. THAT'S SOMETHING. I'M SURE THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND COMMISSIONER RIGHT I'M NOT SURE THIS IS A PROPER QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT ANYWAY. WHY DID STAFF APPROVED THIS WITH SO MANY VARIANCES? I MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. THE CONTEMPORARY DESIGN OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. IS FOR TRADITIONAL DESIGN. BEING CONTEMPORARY, A LOT OF THE FEATURES THAT ARE ORDINANCE ASKED FOR JUST NOT PRACTICAL, SO IF YOU NOTICE MOST OF THOSE VARIANCES ARE FOR BECAUSE IT'S A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN. AND. DESIGN ITSELF IS ALMOST ARCHITECTURE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS ME IS THIS FIVE FT. THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO END UP PARKING ON THE STREET. I'LL GUARANTEE THAT IN WRITING. THEY WILL END UP PARKING ON THE STREET AND IT'LL BE A NIGHTMARE. I HAVE THAT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE PARKING ON THE STREET. THEY BECAME RENTAL HOUSES, A LOT OF THEM MOST OF MANY OF THEM. AND A FOUR BEDROOM HOUSE. THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. WELL YOU CAN'T PARK FIVE IN A GARAGE IS FULL OF JUNK. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PARK FOUR OR FIVE CARS ON THE STREET. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. WHO'S GOING TO ENFORCE ALL THAT? NOBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ART. UM COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS. ONE IT LOOKS LIKE EACH ONE OF THESE HAS A TWO 
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CAR GARAGE. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, AND THE PARKING IS IN THE ALLEY. CORRECT? OR IS IT IN THE FRONT STREET ON THE STREETS ON THE STREET SIDE OF IT AND THE GUEST PARKING AS WELL? SO THEY HAVE ON STREET PARKING AND THEN DESIGNATED GUEST PARKING. RIGHT AND THE ALLEYWAY. IS THAT FOR, UH UTILITIES OR FOREVER FOR GARBAGE COLLECTION. THAT TYPE OF THING THAT'S THAT'S FOR, OKAY. 
          AND YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SIGN A AND SCIENCE. SEE I THINK YOU MENTIONED THOSE HAVE A DEVIATION AS FAR AS THE SETBACK. ONE OF THOSE IS THREE FT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THAT IS SIGN B. BE OKAY. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BOLLARDS ON THAT SOMETHING SO THAT WHENEVER THE INEVITABLE CAR COMES CAREENING AT IT, THAT IT WON'T DESTROY THEIR SIGN? SURE THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND FURTHER ON THE SIGNAGE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALREADY. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS DESIGN. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I REALLY DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT. UM I GET THAT THE SITE IS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP. IT'S LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'LL NEED SERIOUS GRADING THE FLOODPLAIN. THAT'S 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AS WELL PART OF THE SITE. IT'S A VERY SMALL PART, BUT NOT 100% SURE, BUT IT PROBABLY IT'S 100 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE WITH SOME OF THE FIRST SORT OF THING THAT I'M QUESTIONING. THE LANDSCAPING. THERE ARE ALREADY LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL, MATURE. UH YOU KNOW, 4 TO 5 CALIBER INCH TREES THAT ARE PRESENT AND THAT THE PRESENCE OF THOSE TREES HELP SOAK UP A LOT OF THE WATER. IS THE APPLICANT. I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A TREE PROTECTION PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT ARE THEY INTENDING TO USE ANY OF THE MATURE TREES PRESENT ON THE SIDE MOVING FORWARD OR DO THEY INTEND TO REPLANT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THERE AND START OVER? THEY ARE GOING TO PRESERVE SOME TREES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREATMENT, GATIEN SORRY. THE TREE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING, SO THEY WILL TRY TO PRESERVE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REPLANT A LOT MORE TREES TO MAKE UP FOR REMOVING, UM, ESPECIALLY ALONG WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS WHERE THE WALLS ARE GOING IN. BUT THEY WILL TRY TO PRESERVE SOME TREES. YES, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST THAT. TCC Q APPLICATION OF PERMIT. TO COMPLETE THIS WORK, AND THEN DO THEY NEED TO BE INFORMING ANYONE ELSE ABOUT THEIR WORK NEAR THE FLOODPLAIN. UM I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT AND THE ENGINEER MIGHT BE PRESENT TO ANSWER THAT. OKAY MOVING ON. UM I WANT TO ECHO MY CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER THE COMMISSIONER ROSE, COMMISSIONER ADULTERY MARLEY CURRENT TOUCHED UPON THERE ARE EXTRA LARGE NUMBER VARIANCES PRESENT SPECIFICALLY BY THE PARKING. I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA, SO LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF, MAYBE AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR VOCATION, AND I CAN CONNECT CODE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES. THERE'S TYPICALLY MORE THAN ONE OR TWO CARS FOR COMMUNITY. IF IT'S JUST A HUSBAND, WIFE AND A CHILD, THAT IS THAT TEENAGE TEENAGER THAT WANTS TO DRIVE. THREE CARS PER ONE HOUSE PUTS A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN, POTENTIALLY ON THE PARKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA , SO I'VE I'VE GOT SOME HESITATION JUST OFF THE BAT. BUT BUT THE SETBACK AS WELL REGARDING THE PARTICULAR SIGNAGE, CENTERVILLE IS A IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL STREET. IT'S A FAST MOVING STREET AND SO ANY PROTECTION THAT CAN BE AFFORDED TO WHETHER IT BE THE THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED THERE ANY PROTECTION THAT CAN BE PROVIDED WHETHER IT BE TO THE COMMUNITY OR TO THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC WOULD BE PRETTY HELPFUL. I THINK I KNOW THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND I PRESUME THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S GREAT. UM ONE OF THE CITIZEN CONCERNS NOTED THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO CROSS AROUND CENTERVILLE IN 66 MINUTES PRETTY YOU CAN ONLY COME ONE DIRECTION TO GET IN. REALLY GO ONE DIRECTION. GET OUT. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AS IT RELATES TO YOU KNOW HOW TO CROSS OVER THOSE LANES OR GET KIND OF NAVIGATE THAT PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, PEOPLE MAKING U TURNS AT PLACES THAT THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE MAKING U TURNS. AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LITTLE FUNNY, AWKWARD THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? SURE I DID TALK TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING AND THIS DEVELOPMENT DID NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD TO EVEN A REQUEST A TRAFFICKED IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE IT IS A SMALLER 
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DEVELOPMENT. UM SO THEREFORE THEY DID NOT NEED TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DRIVEWAYS OR WHAT, TO WHAT'S EXISTING RATHER THAN THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE MADE BECAUSE OF THE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T NEED TO MAKE THEM BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE AN IMPACT. JUST THAT THERE IS NO STUDY HAS OCCURRED. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY JUST DIDN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD TO EVEN REQUEST OR SOME, THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, UM, BUT NOTHING WAS REQUIRED JUST BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC COUNT WAS LOW. I DON'T I'M OUT OF THE POSITION OR SUGGESTED. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE ACTING A LITTLE. EROTIC TO TRY TO GET HOME OR TO TRY TO LEAVE IN THE MORNING BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST A LOT OF. UNIQUE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO THOSE ARE MY INITIAL CONCERNS. I MIGHT HAVE A FEW MORE DEPENDING UPON ANY OTHER COMMENTS, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS YET TO THE PARKING UH, IF THERE'S IF THAT'S GOING TO BE FIRE LAND AND ITS STRIPED FIRE LANE THAT PROBABLY TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF IT. IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FIRE LANE REQUIREMENT WERE IT'S STRIPED AND SAYS NO PARKING BEHIND ALL THE GARAGE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ENFORCED WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, AND I GUESS IT PROBABLY BEING A PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          PROBABLY CAN'T STRIPE THERE. FIVE FT DEAL IS A PRIVATE AND I DID LOOK IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATING IN WITH JUST A FIVE FT RECESS, AND IT'S GOT A 20 FT WIDE ALLEY VERSUS OR TYPICAL 15 FOOTERS. SO IT'S MORE LIKE TURNING IN IN A SHOPPING CENTER BETWEEN THEM CARS SO THEY MAY HAVE TO PULL IN THAT AND BACK, BUT AND IN TERMS OF AMOUNT OF PARKING. I SEE A SECTION THIS PROJECTED INTO THE SITE. ALONG CENTERVILLE. THERE WE WERE, THEY COULD PROBABLY DO SOME HEAD IN PARKING FOR ANOTHER 88 TO 10, MAYBE MORE PARKING SPACES. YEAH, IT TAKES OUT SOME LANDSCAPING AND MAY DO SOMETHING TO THE COVERAGE. BUT MORE PARKING MIRROR. EVERYTHING ELSE APPEARS TO BE PARALLEL PARKING IN TERMS OF THE GUEST PARKING, SO, ADDING SOME PARKING IN WOULD WOULD BE A GOOD OPTION. UM, AND A GRADING PLAN. I NOTICED THEY'VE GOT. RETURNING WALLS. THERE'S A HOUSE RIGHT BACK BEHIND WITH A DRIVE THAT ALMOST GOES A FULL LENGTH OF THIS SITE. ON THAT POINT, BUT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WATER ISN'T GOING TO RUN INTO THEIR NOW WITH THEM RECLAIMING PROPERTY. THEY BUILT A RETAINING WALL. CHANCES ARE BE A PYRE. BUT THERE'S NO RETAINING WALL IN MIDDLE SECTION THERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT DRAINING IN THAT DIRECTION, AND THEIR ENGINEER CAN ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF THE SETBACKS OF THE SIGNS. THOSE SIGNS ARE FAR ENOUGH BACK FROM EITHER STREET. 
          THAT DOESN'T DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. AH. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE AND PROJECTIONS INTO THE FRONT. I THINK I PICKED UP ON THAT SO ARE THEY ASKING FOR A THREE FT. OKAY NORMALLY, PROJECTIONS ON ARCHITECTURAL MOMENT CAN PROJECT TWO FT INTO REQUIRED FRONT SIDE AND REAR YARD AND THEY'VE GOT AND IT'S PART OF CONTEMPORARY DESIGN THOSE SHADE SLABS OVER SOME OF THE WINDOWS AND STUFF AND THAT WOULD NEED TO PROJECTILE FURTHER SO IF THERE'S APPROVES. LISTEN, MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INTO THE MOTION AS PART OF THE DEAL AND, UH YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY ON TREATMENT. GATIEN GOT A COUPLE $100,000 BILL LOOKING HIM IN THE FACE WITH ALL THOSE TREES. LET'S SEE ANYTHING ELSE. NOPE. OH YEAH , ONE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS KIND OF FOR STAFF AND EVERYBODY IS YOU KNOW WE HAD THAT PROJECT. MUCH FURTHER DOWN IN CENTERVILLE THAT HAD THE RIGHT IRON AND THE SCREENING THAT IN THE LANDSCAPE SCREENING THAT CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF A BROUHAHA, SO I'M ASSUMING THIS WILL BE MORE OF A SOLID LANDSCAPE SCREENING BEHIND THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING. SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING IN GOOD. ALREADY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. 
          YES COMMISSIONER JENKINS QUESTION. UM THE SOLAR PANELS WILL NOT PICTURE IT ON ANY PARTICULAR DETAILED PLAN WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE US ABOUT THE UM, THAT I'M SURE THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL, UM, EXPAND ON THIS WEAPON. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. I SAW THAT TOO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY NEXT. MHM. THE NEXT ITEM IS E 20 TO 59 , WHICH IS ANOTHER TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO ALLOW 88 TOWN HOUSES AND EIGHT H O A LOTS. HERE'S THE 
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CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 9.713 ACRES. AND EXISTING ZONING IS MULTI FAMILY , ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT. HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION. HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR. THE PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH. SORRY CRUST. KINGSLEY ROAD ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN, AND THERE'S A SCHOOL PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS OWNED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND THERE IS A OFFICE USE. PROPERTY TO THE SOUTHEAST DIRECTLY ACROSS EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD OR ZONE SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN AND DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST ZONE. SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN. AND THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS ON THE ADMISSION. GARLAND PLANT DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPOSED USE IS 90 MILLION UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN RECOMMENDS BETWEEN 6 TO 12 DOLING UNITS BREAKER AND THEREFORE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BOTTOM RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH. THE PROPERTY. AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS SOUTH OF ELECTRIC PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF 88 TOWN HOUSES AND EIGHT H O A LOTS. AND OUT OF THOSE 88 TOWN HOUSES. 43 OF THOSE ARE MUSE LOTS WHICH ARE ACTUALLY LOADED. AND THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL BE FACING THE COMMON AREA AND 45 OF THOSE LAWS ARE FRONT LOADED. WITHOUT ANY ALLEYS. AND THE EXCESS WILL BE FROM THERE'S ONE ACCESS FROM EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. THERE ISN'T ONE OTHER ACCESS FROM, UM KINGSLEY ROAD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS ALTERNATIVE OPTION ALTERNATIVE. OPTION B. UM WHICH , BASICALLY, UM, THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE SHOWS AN ALTERNATIVE. ALIGNMENT TOO. KEEN DRIVE. UM RIGHT NOW. IT'S STILL DOES MEET THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. UM BUT WITH THE ALTERNATIVE WHERE IT WRAPS AROUND THE CHURCH PROPERTY TO THE WEST REQUIRES RIGHT OF WAY. DEDICATION FROM THE CHURCH AND THE APPLICANT IS , UM, CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CHURCH OWNER TO SEE IF THEY WILL PROVIDE THAT RIGHT OF WAY IF THE CHURCH IS AMENABLE THAN THAT ROUTE WILL BE AROUND, AND THEY'LL STILL MAINTAIN THE 88 TOWN HOUSES, UM AND IT WILL STILL MEET TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. AND, UM. IT DOESN'T MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. GUESS PARKING AND ENCLOSED GARAGE SPACE. AND IT DOESN'T MEET ALL THE AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT DOES MEET THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR THE G. D. C. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SIX FT ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH LANDSCAPING AND THE STREET SIDE OF THE FENCE ALONG EAST KINGSLEY ROAD AND EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD. AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS WERE NOT SUBMITTED. WITH THIS REQUEST AT THE APPLICANT STATES. THERE IS NO BUILDER UNDER CONTRACT. AT THIS TIME, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT CONFIRMED THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL COMPLY WITH THE ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS PER SECTION 4.84. STAFF WILL VERIFY FOUR G. C AND PD COMPLIANCE FOR THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS DURING PERMITTING REVIEW. HERE'S THE DEVIATIONS TABLE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE LOT AREA MINIMUM REQUIRED IS 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 1980 SQUARE FEET. THE PROPOSED LOT SIZE IS TO ALLOW FRONT LOADED. AND REAR LOADED LOTS. THE FRONT LOADED LOTS ARE A MINIMUM OF 2250 SQUARE FEET AND THE REAR LOADED LOTS. THOSE WHICH ARE THE MUSE. LOTS ARE 1980 SQUARE FEET. THE SECOND ONE IS THE LOT WITH MINIMUM, 20 FT FOR INTERNAL LOTS AND MINIMUM 30 FT FOR IN LOTS, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 22 FT FOR REAR LOADED LOTS. 25 FT FOR FRONT LOADED LOTS 27 FOR REAR LOADED LOTS AND 30.5 FT FOUR FRONT LOADED LOTS. THE ONLY DEVIATION IS FOR THE LOT WITH FOR REAR LOADED LOTS. PER THE APPLICANTS. NARRATIVE THE PD ENVISIONS TOWN HOMES TO APPEAL TO HOMEOWNERS WHO DESIRE LESS YARD AND LOW MAINTENANCE LIVING THESE HOMES, MAYBE REAR OR FRONT ENTRY. NEXT ONE IS MINIMUM 
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DWELLING SIZE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 1400 SQUARE FEET. SORRY. THERE REDUCE THE REQUIRES 1400 SQUARE FEET IN THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 1200 SQUARE FEET. AND THE APPLICANT STATES. 
          THE ANALYSIS OF INCREASED CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT COSTS WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS MEETING INCOME AND DEMAND FOR HIGH QUALITY TOWN HOMES AT AN AFFORDABLE MARKET RATE PRICING DETERMINE THE DESIRE LIVING SPACE FOR TOWN HOMES IN THE AREA TO BE BETWEEN 1,202,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THE NEXT ONE IS ALI. ALLIES ARE REQUIRED. AND 45 OF THOSE LOTS ARE ALI LOADED. THE NEWS LOTS AND 43 LOTS ARE FRONT LOADED WITHOUT THE ALLEYS AND FOR THE APPLICANTS NARRATIVE. 
          THE PROJECT LOCATION HAS ITS CHALLENGES FROM FRONTAGE ON TWO MAJOR ROADWAYS ADJACENT TO AN OLDER EXISTING SUBDIVISION AND TRIANGULAR IN SHAPE. OUR VISION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WAS TO ALLOW AS MUCH OPEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE WITH VIEWS FROM THE MAJOR ROADWAYS. IN OUR PLANNING OF THE SITE, WE SELECTED THE MUSICALITY CONCEPT. AND FRONT ENTRY TOWN HOMES LTD. ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR SOME ELLIE DEDICATION IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE OPEN SPACE AND VIEWS. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR MULTI FAMILY, ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. FOR A SINGLE FAMILY TOUCHED USES AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES. AND MAILED OUT 127 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED ONE WITHIN NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST 16 WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. 42 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. EVERY RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 59 RESPONSES. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. COMMISSION, DALTON. WELL WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES WITH SUFFERING FROM THE SAME APPLY. OF. BUILD OUT THAT WHAT'S LEFT TO BUILD ON IS NOT NECESSARILY CONDUCIVE TO BUILD ON. THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE UP UNTIL LESS THAN 20 YEARS AGO. THAT CENTERVILLE ROAD DIDN'T EXIST. 
          THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ATTACHED TO THE SCHOOL. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER. 
          BROADWAY. AND CENTERVILLE. SO TO GET ON CENTERVILLE, YOU HAD TO GO UP TO THE CORNER OF CENTERVILLE AND BROADWAY. I'M SORRY, KINGSLEY AND MAKE A LEFT TURN AND GO DOWN AND RECONNECT WITH KINGSLEY. AND THEN THE KINGSLEY GOT CUT THROUGH. THE CITY CUT IT THROUGH FROM THE PIECE OF KINGSLEY. AH BEHIND THE OLD KMART STORE. AND CONNECTED IT TO THE KINGSLEY ROAD THAT WAS THERE. AND THIS PRESENTS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT PROBLEM FOR ANYONE TO BUILD ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I NOTICED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STILL OWNS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION. CORRECT THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP BELIEVE IT WAS LATE LAST WEEK, SO THERE IS A NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. YES. OKAY SO NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH AN OWNER, NOT THE SCHOOL OF A DIFFERENT ORDER OTHER THAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THIS, OKAY? UM I THINK THAT UNTIL WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK THAT'LL DO FOR ME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. UM I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW CITY SERVICES WOULD GET TWO OR THE HOMES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. CAN YOU BRING UP THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE? SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE PRETTY COMPLICATED FOR TRASH SERVICES TO GET FROM ONE END TO THE COMPLEX TO THE OTHER. TYPICALLY THEY MAKE THEIR ROUTE IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES ON ANY GIVEN DAY OF THE WEEK. HOW WOULD CITY SERVICES FIRE TRUCKS? POLICE BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY GET TO THESE HOMES? IF THIS DESIGN OF THE STREETS ARE KIND OF LIKE THIS. 
          THIS SITE LAYOUT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY SANITATION AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY DO MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO UM, THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND THEY'VE GIVEN THEIR BLESSINGS. OKAY ALRIGHT. WELL, IF THEY'VE GIVEN THEIR BLESSINGS IS FOR THEM TO FIGURE OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OF COURSE, I HAVE A FEW UM. THEY WANT UNITS UNDER 1400, BUT THEY HAVEN'T CAT. THE AMOUNT OF UNITS UNDER 1400. ALL 88 COULD BE 1200 SQUARE FEET, AND I THINK VARIETY WOULD BE A GOOD THING, THEY SAY. 1200 TO 2000. SO I'D I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF PERCENTAGE UNDER 1400 MAXIMUM. AND IF THEY DON'T GET THAT OPTION TO SWING AROUND AND LINE UP WITH KEEN WHERE 
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THEY'RE COMING OUT. THERE IS A MEDIAN ON KINGSLEY AND I WOULD SUGGEST JUST TO BREAK IN IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN PULL OUT AND TURN LEFT AND NOT HAVE TO GO DOWN TO CENTERVILLE. AND INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC EVEN MORE SO. AND PART OF THAT, HOW IT WORKS OUT AND WHAT YOU'LL DO WITH IT. AND WE HAD ONE COMMENT AND MADE A LOT OF SENSE FROM THE PEOPLE. TO THE WEST. THAT, YOU KNOW. THEIR KIDS PLAY BACK THERE AND EVERYTHING AND THE ONLY PROVIDING A RIGHT IRON FENCE. I THINK SOLID MASONRY WALL ALL ALONG THAT SIDE. SEPARATING THEM FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY, AND I WOULD EVEN GO A STEP FURTHER AND PUT A PROVISION IN THERE WERE THERE WOULD BE NO SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES. ALONG THAT SIDE OVERLOOKING THE BACKYARDS OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. ON YOUR AND THE PAPERWORK IT SAYS OWNER ENLISTS THREE OWNERS AND YOU'RE SAID TO SCHOOLS OUT OF IT NOW. WHAT'S THE GARLAND FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENT INC ALL ABOUT THE OWNER CAN AFRICAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT ONE. SURE APPLICANT CERTAINLY CAN, BUT NO MISS AHMED WAS REFERENCING AS OF JUST LATE LAST WEEK. UM THE PROPERTIES CLOSED FOR THE NEW OWNER AND DEVELOPER. SO UH, AS OF LIKE FRIDAY. WE'LL UPDATE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNSEL. THE PACKET ALREADY BEEN POSTED. YES, SIR. BUT YES, THEY CLOSED ON THE WAY THAT INCLUDED THE FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE CITY. UM AND G. I S D. YES, SIR. THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PROGRAM. NO, SIR. AS OF FRIDAY, IT'S CLOSED FOR THE NEW DEVELOPER. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. NEXT. NEXT ITEM IS E 23. OH, ONE. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO CONSTRUCT A COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THROUGH JUST A STARBUCKS COFFEE. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS 1.5 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING AS COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. HERE IS THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR. AND HE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY OR ALL COMMUNITY RETAIL. AND THEN TO THE WEST ACROSS NORTH GARLAND AVENUE IS AGRICULTURAL AND IT'S VACANT. THE FUTURE LEADING UP TO THE INVASION. GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. AND THIS PROPOSED USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          TOP RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BOTTOM LEFT IS SOUTH. AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A 2186 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE SHOP WITH A DRIVE THROUGH UM, THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM NORTH GARLAND AVENUE, AND IT DOES MEET AH, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PART OF THE G D. C. SAYS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND IT MEETS THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. AND IT DOESN'T MEET THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE GDC. NO DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SDP TO BE VALID FOR 25 YEARS, WHICH DOES ALIGN WITH THE S C P TIME PERIOD DIED. AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH ON THE PROPERTIES OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. AN APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH USE, AND WE SENT 11 LETTERS AND ONE WAS WITHIN IT SORRY WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. TOTAL TWO RESPONSES. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY? I JUST HAD ONE OBSERVATION. UNITED TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER. THAT IS A HUGE TRASH AREA FOR ONE LITTLE SHOP. CAN WE ADD A PROVISION NEARER WHERE THEY CAN HAVE TO MAKE IT SHARE A BLE WITH THE UM, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE SURROUNDING LANDS. 
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I DON'T THINK WE CAN BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT THING IS KIND OF HUGE, AND I KNOW SOME CITIES ARE GOING TOWARDS SHARED TRASH FACILITIES AND THINK THEY'D BE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR WHATEVER GOES NEXT DOOR. JUST A COMMENT. ALREADY. THAT WAS LAST ITEMS, SO WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE 
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APRIL 24TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. IS THIS OUR CUSTOM? WE COMMISSIONERS START THE MEETING WITH THE PARENTS PLEDGE YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, AND NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION NEVER HAS NEVER WILL. TONIGHT'S PARENT PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER COUNCILMAN ELECT I. MHM THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN ME HEAVENLY FATHER. 
          PLEASE BE WITH THIS COMMISSION HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS AND AS ALWAYS, A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, FIRE POLICE AND IN CHRIST'S NAME, WE PRAY AMEN. AMEN. PLEASANTLY ENGINES. STATES OF AMERICA. AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS SAYING ONE NATION UNDER GOD. 
          INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HMM. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME FOLKS OUT HERE. SOMETIMES IT'S AN EMPTY AUDIENCE SAT THERE. 
          ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. IF YOU PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THESE CARDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, EITHER AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY'S DESK ARE OUT THERE. FILL IT OUT AND HAND IT TO HER. I CAN CALL YOU TO COME UP AND SPEAK. HMM. APPLICANTS. UH YEAH, WE'LL GET INTO THAT. APPLICANTS ARE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS ARE LOUD, THREE MINUTES. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW YOU MORE TIME. AND THEN, AFTER ALL THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESSING THE ITEMS. NOW, WHEN YOU DO TALK INTO THE TO HIS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS. ALRIGHT? FIRST ITEMS IN 
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OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA . CONCERNING GENDER ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING ON AND ONE VOTE TO APPROVE. I'LL READ OUT THE ITEMS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES ONE TO BE REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. LET ME KNOW SAME THING. TRUE FOR COMMISSIONERS. CONCERNING GENERAL ITEM ONE. A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 10TH 2023 MEETING. ITEM TO A FLAT 23-14 CENTERVILLE GARLAND FINAL PLAN ONLY ITEMS ANYBODY WHICH ONE OF THOSE REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. COMMISSIONERS. APPROVED A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. UH SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SHE SHOULD BE ON THAT THERE, I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER. ALREADY ONTO ZONING CASES, AND THE FIRST 
          [Items 3A & 3B]
ONE IS A TWO PARTER. ITEM. THREE A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MODERN TH LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL WOULD CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLANNED A MELON DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 0 2-38 FOR MIXED USES. TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN 1951 AND 1975 STATE HIGHWAY 66. ITEM THREE B CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF MODERN TH LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT. ALREADY. I HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS. TWO SPEAKERS, AND I THINK YOU'RE BOTH APPLICANTS ARE DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALLY, EITHER MR TANG HAN OR MR THURMAN, WHICHEVER ONE COME ON DOWN. MHM. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I AM JIMMY TANG HONG'S LIVE AT 14 
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200 NORTH REDWOOD CIRCLE. MCKINNEY, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. PLAN COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM. I WAS SO I GUESS JUST TO BACK UP, WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DO A DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION HERE IN GARLAND RIGHT NEARBY WENT TO U T AUSTIN FOR SCHOOL ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING AND AFTER SCHOOL, I WORKED IN ENGINEERING FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS AND MOVED INTO HOMEBUILDING HERE RECENTLY. THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS THE NEW MODERN HOME. AND, UM LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT US. SO STARTED THE COMPANY IN 2016. WE'VE BEEN BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT SOLAR POWERED HOMES SINCE THEN. WE USE VERY HIGH END MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE 90% MASONRY, PLUS BRICK STUCCO TILE. UM LUXURY. I CONSIDER MYSELF ENTRY LEVEL LUXURY BUILDER, SO WE'VE GOT 10 FT FIRST FLOOR CEILINGS. 10 FT. 
          SECOND FLOOR CEILINGS. WE USE SPRAY FOAM. AH, THESE TOWN HOMES WILL HAVE WHITE METAL ROOFS. AND ALWAYS TRYING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE WITH MODERN HOMES, MODERN STYLE AND MODERN TECHNOLOGY. SO THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE THE FIRST ONE WITH THE BATTERIES. PAREDES HOMES? YES. 
          SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE EXTERIOR PICTURES OF OUR PREVIOUS HOME BUILDS. WE'VE BUILT IN, UM MANY CITIES FROM DALLAS TO FRISCO. TWO WIDELY UH UM. AND ALL MODERN NATURE. HERE'S SOME OF SOME PICTURES OF OUR INTERIOR. IN TERMS OF OUR HOMES. SO AGAIN, UM , PRETTY MODERN. UM, A LOT OF HOMES ARE GOING THIS WAY. AND, UM, HERE. WE'VE GOT AN AERIAL SO WE ACTUALLY TOOK THIS DRONE IMAGE OF THE SITE JUST LAST MONDAY, AND THEN I HAD A, UM, AN ARTIST AND ARCHITECTURE ARTIST DRAW THIS IN. BUT HERE THE 50 TOWN HOMES AND HOW THEY WILL LOOK ONE MORE COMPLETE. WITH THE SCREEN BUFFER WITH THE LANDSCAPING, RIGHT IRON FENCE AND THE BRICKS, GREENWALL AND IN SOME AREAS. HERE IS A. KIND OF LIKE A STREET VIEW HEADSHOT OF THE HOMES SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE LOTS OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND DETAILS TO ADD CHARACTER. TO EACH TOWN HOME. UM WE WILL HAVE FOUR FLOOR PLANS. AND WILL BE PRICED, UM STARTING IN THE FOUR HUNDREDS. SO TOTAL VALUE. THE PROJECT'S ABOUT $24 MILLION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT SAID, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR WITH ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER AT THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR PRESENTING THIS. IT'S VERY INTERESTING PROJECT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS PRETTY SIMPLE. YOU MENTIONED THIS IS SOLAR POWERED AND THAT THERE'S BATTERIES OR THESE GRID TIED. 
          YES, THEY WILL BE GOOD TIED, OKAY? SO THAT WOULD BE THE BACKUP FOR IT. ULTIMATELY. 
          CORRECT YES. OKAY AND IS THERE ENOUGH SOLAR POWER TO POWER? THE ENTIRE HOUSE YOU ON A SUNNY DAY? THAT'S THE GOAL SO THE SOLAR PANELS WILL PRODUCE ABOUT $160 IN POWER PER MONTH. OKAY HOMEOWNER USES LESS THAN THAT, AND THAT'S GREAT FOR THEM. THEY'LL HAVE ALMOST NO BILL AND IF THEY USE MORE THAN THAT THAN THAT'S, UM, HELP THAT THEY'LL GET FROM THE SOLAR PANELS, RIGHT? AND THE, UM. WELL THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. WELL, NOW I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AS FAR AS PARKING. UM, YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE IS FOR THE FOR THE GARAGES ARE THOSE ARE IN THE STREET, OR ARE THEY IN THE ALLEY THERE IN THE ALLEYWAY? SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UM WE HAVE AROUND ABOUT LET ME SEE HERE. I NEED BACKUP. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, UM, WITH THE LITTLE HAND THE KIND OF CIRCLED AROUND THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT STREET RIGHT OVER HERE. RIGHT PASSING THROUGH THOSE TOWN HOMES OVER THERE AND THEN OVER HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE ALLEYWAY. SO NO ONE SHOULD BE PARKING IN THERE. IN FACT, UM, WE ARE MEETING ALL THE GARLAND CODE FOR PARKING. UM AND WE ARE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. GARLAND CODE FOR PARKING. NO PARKING VARIANTS REQUESTED HERE, OKAY? 
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AND SO THE PARKING IS IN THE ALLEYWAY HAS FIVE FT BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE ALLEY BEGINNING. 
          CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THAT MAKES IT WORSE. SOMEONE COULD NOT PARKED ON THE DRIVEWAY WITHOUT THE CAR THAT'S CORRECT BLOCK SITTING COMPLETELY BLOCKING THE DRIVEWAY. CORRECT, OKAY? AND THEN THE SPOTS THAT ARE IN THE FRONT. ARE THEY, UM DO THEY HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON HOW LONG SOMEBODY CAN PARK AND THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ON THE STREET? NO WE DID NOT HAVE A TIME LIMIT, OKAY AND THE BUT THE ROADS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING LIKE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PARK THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL PARKING OUT IN THE STREET. IT IS 26 FT WIDE AND THEN ALSO, WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY DEEP WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS CALLED KNUCKLES. WHERE ADDITIONAL PREGNANT COULD BE HAD IF YOU NEED TO, I GUESS, WALK YOUR DOG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OKAY? SO I COULD ANTICIPATE THAT PEOPLE WITH THEIR TEENAGE CHILDREN. THEY HAVE THREE CARS IN THE HOUSEHOLD. I COULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF TEENAGERS. CARS WILL BE PARKED IN THE KNUCKLE AREA THERE COULD BE AND ALSO THERE WILL BE NATURE WAY TO HELP MANAGE, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE OUTSIDE THE RESIDENCES. 
          OKAY AND YOU'VE HAD A VARIANCE FOR SIGNAGE. ONE OF THOSE WAS LIKE ABOUT A THREE FT SETBACK. 
          CORRECT INDICATE WHERE THAT WILL BE. YES IT'S ACTUALLY THIS SIGN RIGHT HERE. IT IS THREE FT AWAY FROM THE END OF THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT IT'S ALSO 13 FT AWAY FROM THE STREETS, AND THERE'S ALSO A CURB HERE AND REALLY ANYBODY WHO MIGHT HIT IT. WOULD BE ANYONE DRIVING TOWARDS IT, SO ANYONE COMING OFF OF 66 WOULD HAVE TO CROSS OVER ABOUT 23 FT. JUMP A CURB AND THEN HIT IT BEING DIFFICULT. ANYBODY WHO'S COMING OUT OVER HERE IS NOT DRIVING TOWARDS THE SCIENCE, SO THEY'RE MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO HIT IT. VERY GOOD. I THINK THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE, SIR. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE PRESENT DURING THE WORK SESSION, SO I'LL BEGIN THE FIRST BEING THERE WAS NO NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE ANY CONCERN FROM YOUR STANDPOINT OF HOW INDIVIDUALS MAY BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY, SEEING AS HOW THERE'S REALLY VERY LIMITED? UH OPPORTUNITIES TO ACCESS OTHER THAN YOU KNOW, ONE WAY FROM 66 OR ONE WAY FROM CENTERVILLE. 
          SURE SO LET ME ADD SOME COLOR TO THAT. SO WE DID HIRE A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, AND HE PROVIDED US SOME NUMBERS DURING PEAK. BUSY HOUR IN THE MORNING. THERE WILL BE ABOUT 20 CARS ENTERING OR LEAVING THE COMMUNITY. UM. AND THEN IN THE EVENINGS IN THE PM, THERE WILL BE A PEAK BUSY HOUR OF 26 CARS ENTERING AND LEAVING THE COMMUNITY. SO TYPICALLY, A DEEPER STUDY ISN'T INVOLVED UNTIL YOU HIT MORE THAN 100 CARS LEAVING OR ENTERING DURING BUSY HOUR. UH YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT KIND. THAT'S I'M NOT NOT CONCERN ABOUT THE LOAD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOW. 
          YEAH. AND. SO LET ME ADD SOME DETAIL TO THE TO THIS AS WELL. SO AS A SO FOR THIS ENTRANCE, UM FROM THE STREET A OVER TO CENTERVILLE ROAD AND THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS CITY GROUND TRANSPORTATION INJURIES DID NOT GIVE US ANY POSSIBILITY TO TURN LEFT TO GO NORTH ON TO CENTERVILLE ROAD. SO UM, WE DID PUT THIS ROAD AS FAR NORTH AWAY FROM STATE HIGHWAY 66 AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 260 FT. FOR RESIDENTS TO LEAVE AND THEN DRIVE OVER AND TO DO YOU TURN UNDER CENTERVILLE ROAD. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WAS IT PROPOSED? WHAT WHAT WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND ENGINEERS DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY GUIDANCE ABOUT MAKING THAT AND MY QUESTION IS. DID YOU PROPOSE IT? THE TOLD US WE COULD NOT TURN LEFT ONTO CENTRAL ROOM FOR 66. YES THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY UM, I SEE LIGHTING THAT YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LIGHT POSTS AROUND ON THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE HERE. HAVE YOU HAD A LIGHT IMPACT STUDY? THAT'S BEEN DONE ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT ADEQUATE LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY. WE HAD A LIGHTING CONSULTANT DESIGNED THIS FOR US AS WELL. OKAY. EXCELLENT. UM I WANT TO MIRROR MY CONCERNS. I KNOW DURING THE WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING CONCERNS AGAIN. I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND I, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. I'M AWARE THAT SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST MORE THAN TWO OR THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE CARS IN THE HOUSEHOLD. YOU COULD HAVE. YOU KNOW, IN A 43. YOU COULD HAVE 56 PEOPLE LIVING THERE, DEPENDING UPON GENERATION. THAT THAT MAY BE UNDER ONE HOUSEHOLD. 
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UH THERE'S SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO CONCERN BECAUSE THERE WILL BE AN H O A TO ENFORCE THE COVENANTS THAT ARE IMPRESSED THAT ARE IN PLACE. UM, THAT YOU KNOW THE PARKING WON'T GET OUT OF HAND. IS THAT A PRETTY GOOD ASSESSMENT? THAT'S CORRECT, AND WE ALSO EXCEED GARLAND CODE FOR GUEST PARKING SPOTS. AND THEN, UH, IN THIS AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USE. I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO A MIX OF LIGHT AND INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, BUT FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO DEVELOP ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE EITHER A AND A FLOODPLAIN OR TOUCH OR BUT A FLOODPLAIN AND BE THAT ARE CLOSE TO INDUSTRIAL USES? YES, WE, UM BUILD HOMES NEAR FLOODPLAINS AS WELL. UM WE WILL BE VERY, VERY SLIGHTLY WORKING IN THIS AREA. UM IN REGARDS TO THE FLOODPLAIN. I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME BOX CULVERTS OVER HERE. IF YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE HELP THE WORLD HAND AND THEN, UM WE ARE. REALLY NOT CONCERNED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TOUCHING THE FLOODPLAIN, ALRIGHT, AND THEN YOU'RE GRADING PLAN. I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THE CHAIRMAN'S ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS IN THE WORK SESSION. UH WHEN I DROVE PAST IT TODAY, THE GRADING IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. THERE THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF BRINGING A LOT OF FILMS THAT RIGHT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BRING IN ANY FILL OR TAKE AWAY ANY PHIL. WE'RE LOOKING TO USE ALL THE LAND ON SITE WHERE IT IS ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. WILL THIS BE A MANDATORY? ASSOCIATION AS OPPOSED TO VOLUNTARY YES, THIS WOULD BE MANDATORY. OKAY? THEN THEY WILL ENFORCE THE PARKING CORRECT. 
          GOOD LUCK. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. ANY ANYBODY ELSE? DURING THE PRESENTATION. IT WASN'T IN OUR PACKET, BUT YOU HAVE REQUESTED TO ALLOW ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO PROJECT THREE FT INTO THE FRONT YARD. CORRECT SO FOR THIS PASSES IN MOTION IS MADE. THERE WOULD BE A PART OF THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND A THREE FT, OKAY? UM LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SCOTT. ALREADY. THE ONLY OTHER CARD I HAVE IS FROM L. C. 
          THURMAN. I HAVE TWO MORE CARDS, OK? HMM? JOYCE CAR. 
          JOYCE CARD. 1933 HIGHWAY 66. FOR 50 YEARS WHERE THE FARMHOUSE BEHIND THIS PROJECT. HMM IT WAS THE OLD FARMHOUSE. UM I COULD NOT HERE, SO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MAY HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS LIVE THERE, 80. OR 88 58 SORRY. WE'VE GOT TWO CASES. I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS MIXED UP. JUST 50 50. MY MISTAKE. AND, UH, AS. UH OH. LET'S SAY WE SPOKE TO SOMEONE IN THE CITY. IT WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL SOMETIME AGO AND UNDERSTOOD THERE WOULD BE SOME GREEN SPACES. ARE THERE ANY GREEN SPACES? AROUND THE UNITS, I GUESS, JUST FOR PLAY FOR WALKING DOGS ARE THESE CATERING TO FAMILIES WHO ARE CHILDREN WOULD WANT TO BE OUT PLAYING. IF YOU COULD MAYBE ZOOM OUT FOR US TO BE ON THE DRAW ON THE AERIAL AND THAT MIGHT SHOW SOME OF THE GREEN SPACES FOR US. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE WE GO, AND I DON'T SEE ANY PARKING WHERE? WHERE'S THE PARKING PARALLEL PARKING IN FRONT OF SOME OF THE UNITS? IT'S NOT STRAIGHT IN PARKING AS YOUR CUSTOMERS SEEN SOME OF THE UNITS. YEAH. EACH OF THE UNITS HAS A TWO CAR. GARAGE IT'S HARD TO SIT ALL RIGHT. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BACK BEHIND THERE, SO EACH UNIT HAS PARKING FOR TWO CARS AND CLOSED PLUS SOME THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREET. IT'S ONLY . TWO YEAH, THE KIDS GROW UP IN THE TEENAGERS. YOU'LL HAVE TO PARK THEIR CORVETTES SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH MY DRIVEWAY. YEAH OKAY. HAS IT BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY, OR D O T FOR THE I NOTICED ONE, I GUESS. IS MY DRIVEWAY GOING BACK. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DRIVEWAY ARE BOTH OF THOSE APPROVED. FOR ENTRY ONTO 66 BECAUSE THAT HAD BEEN ONE DRIVEWAY AND 66, 
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ACCORDING TO STAFF HAS GOTTEN PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SO THERE'S A FINAL APPROVAL THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. OKAY AND THEN THERE'S ONE ON CENTER CENTERVILLE. THAT'S JUST CITY STREETS. OH, NO, TECHSTAT. REQUIREMENT. UM. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET DID I MISS THAT? I COULDN'T HEAR. I HEARD THE PRICING STARTED ABOUT 400. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER UNIT? WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP AFTER EVERYBODY SPOKEN, AND, UH , HE CAN FILL US IN ON THAT ONE. OKAY I RECEIVED THE MAILING AND THAT THEY ASKED TO VOTE AT I DIDN'T GO ONLINE. I'M SORRY. I DON'T READ ON THE COMPUTER WELL ENOUGH TO GO ONLINE WHEREVER IT WAS. UM. SO THERE'S NO OFF STREET PARKING OTHER THAN THE TWO IS THE DRIVEWAY DEEP ENOUGH TO PARK CARS OR JUST THE THEY HAVE TO PULL RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE. 
          OKAY ANOTHER ALLEY. THAT'S NOT A STREET. IT'S AN EXTRA WHITE ALLEY AND THEN THEY PULL IT IN THE ALLEY. OKAY ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE RUN INTO A LOT. THEY BUILT THE DOGGIE DAYCARE DOGGY CARE DOT WHATEVER I CALLED THE TAJ MAHAL ACROSS RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD, AND, UH, THEY BUILT THIS LONG. UM LEFT TURN LANE, BUT YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT. SO IS THE CITY GOING TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THESE PEOPLE WOULD HELP US TO HMM. AND ALL ALL THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE, WE'RE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT. LEFT TURN . THAT'S A TEXT THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT STRAIGHT IN OR SOMETHING. YOU CAN'T MAKE THE U TURN TO GO BACK. UH TOWARD REALITY, WHATEVER DIRECTION EAST IN CONTROL ON THAT TEXT ART IS SO THEY DETERMINE WHERE CURB CURB CUTS AND TURNAROUNDS WILL BE IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS PROJECT. OKAY? AND WHAT ABOUT THE DIVISION BETWEEN. THE HOUSES AND BASICALLY MY PROPERTY. WHAT KIND OF FENCING, ER, MASONRY BECAUSE I CAN SEE A LOT OF DOGGIES AND CHILDREN COMING OVER TO PLAY IN MY NICE OPEN YARD. THEY'VE GOT A I THINK IT WAS A SEVEN FT FIVE INCH MASONRY WALL, I THINK IS WHAT REPORTS SAID. IT'S SIX OR SEVEN FT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE MASONRY WALL. 
          OKAY AND YOU DIDN'T LEAVE ANY OF THE TREES. THAT'S NATURE OF DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE DIRT AROUND AND YOU'D END UP KILLING MOST OF THE TIME. BUT THEY TOLD US FOREVER. THAT WAS ONE OF THE LAST NATIVE FORESTS IN GARLAND, AND THEY THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD SAVE IT. NO, THANKS. IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OF LIVING IN THE CITY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ALREADY AND, UH, UM, MY NEXT CARD IS I'M BAD ON NAMES AND HANDWRITING. KIM UH, PARK. 
          PEARSON, OKAY. I LIVE AT 105 BENT CREEK. SO I'M IN THE CASTLE WOULD SUBDIVISION BEHIND THE CREEK? AREA BEEN THERE FOR 26 YEARS SINCE THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD IS, UM THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON CENTERVILLE. I CAN. FIRST OF ALL THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS BACKED UP TO HAS A LOT OF ACCIDENTS. IT'S MOST WIDE OPEN INTERSECTION IN GARLAND AND THERE ARE SO MANY ACCIDENTS AND THERE'S AMBULANCES ALL THE TIME AND WHATEVER, AND THERE'S ALREADY A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO FLIP A YOU THERE AT THE CORNER BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO TO SONIC OR WHATEVER. AND THE PEOPLE COMING ON 66 WANT TO MAKE A RIGHT AND THEY MAKE THE RIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT. INSTEAD OF MAKING RIGHT INTO THE RIGHT TURN LANE, AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME ON THIS THAT IF THEY COME OUT OF CENTERVILLE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC AND DURING HIGH TRAFFIC. TIMES WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FROM 4 TO 7 IN THE IN THE EVENING AND PROBABLY PROBABLY 7 TO 9. OR MAYBE 6 30 TO 9 IN THE MORNING THAT TRAFFIC'S BACKED UP, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. I CAN SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL OUT AND GET OVER AND THEN HAVE TO FLIP A U AND GO BACK TO GO NORTH ON CENTERVILLE. UM ALSO, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF HOUSES ON WIND LAKE IN THE GRAND NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE ALREADY KIND OF ENCROACHED THEIR BACKYARD INTO THE FOREST AREA, AND SO IN THE WINTER WHEN THE TREES LOSE ALL THEIR LEAVES. I'M GETTING THE LIGHTING BACK THERE AND EVERYTHING ANYWAY. FROM THAT, AND, UM THEY'VE GOT MUSIC. THEY THEY'VE BUILT A GAZEBO. THEY'VE GOT SPEAKERS BLARING. WE'VE HAD 
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CALL SEVERAL TIMES ON NOISE, ORDINANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM AND IT JUST DOESN'T. I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, AND IT'S LIKE, IS IT GONNA BE RIGHT WHERE THE BRIDGE ENDS. WHERE THE CREEK IS. IS THAT WHERE THAT X? IT'S GOING TO BE? THAT EGRESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THAT FEELS PRETTY FAR IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THERE AND LOOKING AT IT I'VE BEEN MUCH MORE COGNIZANT SINCE I WENT TO THE FIRST MEETING OR WHATEVER. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM FOR ANYBODY. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AS, UM YEAH, THE LADY WAS JUST SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO GO. IF YOU'RE COMING OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU YOU HAVE TO GO IF YOU COME OUT ONTO 66, WHERE IS THE FIRST PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO THAT YOU COULD TURN AROUND TO GO EAST ON 66. THAT'S THE FIRST PUMP OR YOU HAVE TO GO OVER THREE LANES AND THEN MAKE A LEFT TURN TO GO EAST ON THE 66. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF EGRESS. ENTRANCE AND EGRESS TO GET OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S LIKE TWO VERY LIMITED ONES, AND WE WERE ALSO TOLD THAT THIS PROJECT WAS, UM WE WENT TO THE FIRST MEETING THAT THE HIGHWAY SENSITIVE THE STATE HIGHWAY THEY HAD TO APPROVE THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU GO LEFT ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP A HILL. AND THEY ALSO WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY SORT OF AN ENTRANCE OFF THE ENTRANCE TO THE GRAND HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER. SO SO THAT'S KIND OF MY OBJECTIONS TO IT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE NOTING WHICH IS SPEAKING THIS ITEM? WELL AS THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP IF HE WISHES TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND HMM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE, UM FOUR FLOOR PLANS. AND THEY'RE GONNA ARRANGE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM ABOUT 15 50 SQUARE FEET. TO APPROXIMATELY 1900 SQUARE FEET. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS SEE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ROSE WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. PASTOR UNANIMOUSLY AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU ARE NEXT IN THE QUEUE. DID YOU CARE TO SAY SOMETHING, OR ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. I, UM. HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT THESE CONCERNS WILL NOT STOP ME FROM VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT AS COMMISSIONER DALTON POINTED OUT EARLIER. TWO FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO COMPORT TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE GDC REQUIREMENTS AND LIGHT OF, UH, THE CITIES BUILT OUT. IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT, UH , PARCEL. IT'S IN A FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING A PROJECT THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE AS AS HE STATED, UH, A LIGHT LUXURY OPTION THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND THAT MAY BE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND BE A SAVINGS FOR FAMILIES MOVING FORWARD. AND FOR THOSE REASONS I WOULD VOTE PROGRAM. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN COMMISSIONER. I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN. WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 1989. THERE WERE NO CARS ON THE STREET. NONE THEY WERE ALL IN THE ALLEY. I'M SORRY ON THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH WAS DEEP ENOUGH TO PARK TWO CARS. UH, AND THE GARAGE. BUT OVER THE YEARS, THESE HOUSES ALL NOT ALL A LOT OF THE HOUSES HAVE BEEN SOLD, AND THERE ARE RENTERS. AND THE RENTERS DON'T CARE WHAT THE RULES ARE, AND THAT'S WHY ■I&-PY ASSOCIATION AND THEY ENFORCED THE RULES. PARKING MIGHT BE OKAY . OTHERWISE PARKING IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE ASSOCIATION MUST BE VERY WELL DEFINED AND HAVE THE AUTHORITY. IN WORKING WITH THE CITY. TWO. ARREST OR FIND 
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THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE CARS WILL PARK THE WRONG DIRECTION. THEY'LL PARK TWO FT OR 18 INCHES FROM THE CURB AND ALL OF A SUDDEN AND ONE ON EACH SIDE AND YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH. 
          ANYWAY. PARKING IS MY VERY BIG CONCERN, BUT IF THEY HAVE A GOOD STRONG ASSOCIATION THAT CAN ENFORCE THAT RULE. THEN IT MIGHT WORK. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM TO ECHO THE PARKING CONCERNED. YES, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S UM ABOUT. 15 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT ARE THAT ARE MARKED ON THE STREETS. THEY HAVE THE ELBOW SECTIONS THAT I CAN ALREADY SEE OR PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOME LONG TERM PARKING IN IT. BUT LOOKING AT THE PROJECT OVERALL, IT IS A CLASS A PROJECT. IT'S REALLY I LIKE WHAT I WHAT WE'RE BEING SHOWN. IT HAS A LOT THAT'S GOING FOR IT. I WISH IT HAD MORE PARKING. I WISH IT WASN'T SUCH A DIFFICULT PROJECT FOR THEM TO DEAL WITH. OH, THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S THERE, BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. 
          THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. ONE MORE NOTE. IT WOULD I WOULD HOPE OR HAVE HOPED TO LEARN THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD IN THEIR EFFORT TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR. REACH OUT TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN TO IMPLEMENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS THEY ARE KIND OF SEEKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE IS NO MISCOMMUNICATION OR ERROR AS THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BEGINS. SO THAT'S MY LAST COMMENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TOO. YES, IT'S NOT PERFECT. BUT IT'S SOMETHING NEW FOR GARLAND. IT'S WHAT WE CALL IN THE BUSINESS. ZERO READY? ZERO. ENERGY RADIO CAN LIVE ON ITS OWN. AND THEY'RE SPENDING EXTRA MONEY TO, UH, SOMETHING YOU ALL MAY NOT HAVE PICKED UP THERE USING SPRAY FOAM, WHICH IS PROBABLY HALF AGAIN AS MUCH AS REGULAR INSTALLATION, SO IT'LL BE TOTALLY SEALED AND THOSE THINGS CAN EASILY BE PROBABLY HEATED AND COOLED FRONT AND 60 BUCKS A MONTH. YEAH. HOW LONG HOW MUCH YOU HAVE YOUR T V ON? IT'S A ANOTHER THING, BUT IT'S A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN IS SOMETHING NEW. AND UH, I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD FOR THE CITY. YEAH. THAT'S CERTAINLY KNOW ABOUT GETTING OUT. YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND THE BLOCK TO GET ANYWHERE, BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF THAT SITE. AND PEOPLE MOVING THERE. JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THANK YOU. DO I HEAR MOTION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AS PRESENTED WITH SIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALONG WITH THE THREE FT, UH, REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT FOR OVERHANG FOR THE FRONT. I'M SORRY, MR FROM BUTCHERING THIS PARTICULAR PART GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. DO IT. HERE A SECOND. WAS THAT COMMISSIONER ROSE UP COMMISSIONER AT I'M SORRY. OKAY? MY HEARING ISN'T THE GREATEST. I DON'T KNOW. JUST SHUT UP. YEAH ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE VERY WITH THE DEVIATIONS WITH THE ADDITIONAL DEVIATION OF THE THREE FT OVERHANG. UM ALL PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I THINK I GOT IT ALL. PLEASE VOTE. YES VOTE TO APPROVE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WELL, WELCOME TO GARLAND. THANK YOU. ALREADY. THE 
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NEXT CASE. ALRIGHT IS ALSO A TWO PARTER. MHM. CONCERT OF THE APPLICATION AND MCGUINNESS DEVELOPMENT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MULTI FAMILY, ONE DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY SF SEVEN DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THIS FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED BEFORE 17 EAST CENTERVILLE, 402502 AND 6 98 EAST KINGSLEY. AND ITEM THREE D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION AND BEGINNERS DEVELOPMENT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. DEVELOPMENT. 
          ALREADY IS. HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS HERE. UH, IS HE APPLICANT HERE? ALRIGHTY. IF YOU CARE TO COME SPEAK. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CASEY MCGUINNESS. I'M THE OWNER AND 
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OPERATOR OF MCGUINNESS DEVELOPMENT RESIDED, 40, 29, VENETA DRIVE AND FRISCO, TEXAS. 
          UM. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WE ACTUALLY STARTED ON ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. UM IT HAD A VERY DIFFICULT DESIGN OF WHAT YOU SAW EARLIER TODAY WERE VERY NARROW TRIANGLE, WHICH CREATED ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. UM WE ACTUALLY CLOSED ON A PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY. A PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THE CITY AND ONE FROM THE GARLAND I S D. ON FRIDAY. AS YOU IMAGINE THAT WAS A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH. BUT IT HAPPENED AND GOT EVERYTHING FUNDED ON FRIDAY AND CLOSED AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF SINCE SEPTEMBER ON THIS JUST GOING THROUGH ENGINEERING. TRANSPORTATION AND WITH ALL THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AS YOU HEARD EARLIER. SOME OF THE MOST OF MY SLIDES ARE REDUNDANT. FROM WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE. THIS IS A JUST A RENDERING. WE DO NOT HAVE A BUILDER AT THIS TIME FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. UM THIS IS A RENDERING OF A OF A GENERAL DESIGN THAT THAT YOU MAY SEE ON THE SITE. I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE MUCH DEVIATION UNLESS IT YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOES FROM MAYBE A MEDITERRANEAN OR A FRENCH OR SOMETHING THAT AFFECT BUT IT'LL BE A PRETTY GENERAL SETTING, JUST LIKE YOU SEE BEFORE YOU FOR OUR REAR ENTRY. UM THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF BOTH FRONT ENTRY AND REAR ENTRY AND THE PURPOSE OR THE REASON FOR THAT WAS TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THESE REALLY NARROW UH, TRIANGULAR CORNERS. 
          THERE JUST WASN'T ROOM TO GET A FULL STREET IN AN ALLEY DOWN INTO THESE CORNERS, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON THE I S D PROPERTY. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AND WE WANTED TO, UH, EXTENUATING, THE GREEN SPACE, THE OPEN SPACE, SO WE MOVED THAT FROM THE INTERIOR PROPERTY. TO THE EXTERIOR AND THE GOAL THERE IS WHEN WE CREATE THESE MUSE ALLEYS, AND THERE WAS A COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE FIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT SERVICES. UH BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE TRASH DELIVER MAIL. OUR MUSE ALLEYS ARE FIRE LANES. THERE'S 30 FT. WIDE THEY'LL BE STRIPED. 
          THERE'LL BE NO PARKING UM ALL OF OUR DRIVEWAYS OR 20 FT SO THAT EACH LOT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO IN THE GARAGE TO IN THE DRIVEWAY. AND THEN WE HAVE 22 ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE AH, FRONT ENTRY. THEY'RE NOT PARALLEL AND SO THEIR DESIGNATED THROUGHOUT STRATEGICALLY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE ANY OVERFLOW THAT THOSE FOUR SPOTS CAN'T ACCOMMODATE FOR EACH TOWN HOME. HMM THE IDEA ON PUSHING THE GREEN BELT WE DO HAVE A PARK AND INTERIOR PARK IN THE COMMUNITY. UM THAT WILL THAT WILL HAVE THAT'S VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. 
          IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF WALK ABILITY OUT THERE. THERE WILL BE NO FRONT STREET WHERE THE MUSEUM ALLEYS ARE CREATED, SO IT'S GONNA BE A BIG OPEN GREEN SPACE ARE PARK WILL CONSIST OF PERGOLAS. BARBECUE PITS DOG STATIONS, A TRAIL THAT CONNECTS THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND IF I CAN TAKE YOU THERE IF I GO BACK FROM ONE OF THE OTHER GET TO THE SITE PLAN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES EITHER ONE OF THOSE PERFECT YEAH. HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT? ARE YOU GOING UP AND DOWN? TO SEE SIDE, OKAY? PERFECT. OBVIOUSLY THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITHOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF ON IT. UM OUR OUR PERIMETER FENCING WILL BE AN WEREN'T AUTOMATED METAL FENCE, AND WE WERE ACTUALLY DID THAT ON PURPOSE TO ACTUALLY CREATE A STREETSCAPE FROM BOTH KINGSLEY AND CENTERVILLE. SINCE WE HAVE THE MUSE ALLEYS AND NO FRONT STREET WHAT YOU'LL SEE FROM THE ROAD FROM FROM CENTERVILLE AND KINGSLEY IS A LARGE OPEN GREEN SPACE BEFORE THE FRONT FACADE OF EACH OF THESE HOMES. AND THAT WILL BE WHERE THERE'LL BE LANDSCAPING. THAT'LL BE YOUR PERGOLAS. YOUR DOG STATIONS, YOUR PARK BENCHES, AND I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE A GREAT LOOK FOR THE COMMUNITY ALL AROUND, EVEN IF YOU DON'T COME INSIDE. FROM INSIDE. OBVIOUSLY, ALL OF OUR PARKING ON THOSE MUSE ALLEYS WILL BE IN IN THE IN THE REAR. ALL OF OUR GUEST PARKING WILL BE OUT TO THE SIDES. AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG OPEN GREEN SPACE WHERE KIDS CAN PLAY. 
          PEOPLE CAN WALK THEIR DOGS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE VERY COMMUNITY FRIENDLY, COMMUNITY FRIENDLY. 
          OUR OUR OUR FRONT ENTRY THAT BACK UP TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD HEARD A CONCERN EARLIER ABOUT THAT BEING WROUGHT IRON? THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BACKYARD. SO WHAT? WHAT THAT WILL HAVE BETWEEN US AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL WILL BE A SIX FT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN. THERE WILL BE NO CONNECTIVITY TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD BELIEVE IT'S GET MY GLASSES ON HERE. RIO GRANDE DRIVE THAT 
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ACTUALLY WILL TERMINATE AND DOESN'T COME THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WAS DONE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE WE MET WITH TRANSPORTATION AND MET WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THIS AREA. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY AND JUST BECOMING A RACEWAY THAT DUMPED OUT ONTO ADD ONTO, UH, CENTERVILLE. AND SO WE CUT THAT OFF. THEY WILL HAVE NO CONNECTIVITY. AND SO YOU WON'T HAVE ANY OF ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY WALKING IN TO THAT, AND VICE VERSA. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE A STAND ALONE. UM ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD COME UP, WHERE WAS CONCERNING THE ENTRY OFF OF CENTERVILLE? EXCUSE ME, KINGSLEY ABOUT HAVING A MEDIAN CUT THEIR IT'S IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE MEDIAN CUT ACROSS THE STREET THERE ON KEEN THAT TRANSPORTATION JUST WOULDN'T ALLOW IT. BUT WITH THAT SAID, UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, GET BACK. I BELIEVE GO BACK. THERE IS A BACK THEN, IN THIS ONE, YOU CAN SEE THE ISLET DOWN THERE THAT SHOWS THE ALTERNATIVE. ENTRY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CONNECT KEEN INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE HAD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION OF THE CITY HAS REACHED OUT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS A CHURCH AND SO FAR EVERYONE'S NODDING THEIR HEAD. 
          YES, THAT THIS IS THIS IS THE ENTRY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CREATE. UM, IT WILL REQUIRE RIGHT AWAY AT, UH FROM THEM. TO GET UP IN THERE, BUT WILL GIVE THAT SIA LITTLE BIT ACCESS LINE US UP WITH KEEN AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT CONNECTION AND GO LEFT OR RIGHT, WHICH WILL PREVENT ALL THE U TURNS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND SO WE LIKE THAT. I THINK THEY LIKE IT. I KNOW THE CITY DOES AND SO YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE CAN WORK OUT THE DETAILS ON THAT WITH THE CHURCH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UM TRYING TO THINK OF ANY OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS. OH THERE WAS A THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT HAVING SECOND STORY BALCONIES ON THESE REAR YARDS. UM WE WILL HAVE SOME SEPARATION THERE IS ACTUALLY A UTILITY EASEMENT AT THE BACK OF THIS THAT'S UH UH, 10 FT. AND THEN THERE'S A 10 FT ON THE EXISTING SIDE 10 FT ON OUR SIDE, WHICH WILL BE 20 FT, SO YOU'LL HAVE THE BACKYARD OF THE TOWN HOME, 20 FT EASEMENT THAT WILL BE SEPARATED BY OUR SIX FT FENCE. THE NEIGHBORING FENCING, WHATEVER THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR BACKYARD, AND THEN MOST OF THOSE HOMES SIT ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 80 FT. FROM THAT BACK PERIMETER, SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A LARGE. I DON'T SEE THIS IN A LOT OF TOWN HOMES HAVING THAT REAR BALCONY. 
          SOME DO. IT'S MORE OF A LANDING TO GO OUT AND STAND ON RATHER THAN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A FUNCTIONAL PORCH. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY? EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE IT? UM, I DON'T SEE THAT ON MANY, THOUGH. UM ARE THE ONLY OTHER DEVIATION THAT WE'VE GOT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND AS WE WENT AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH INTEREST RATES RISING, YOU KNOW, DOUBLING OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, MOST OF THE BUILDERS ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO CREATE THE SAME TYPE OF QUALITY AT THE SAME PRICE. WE'VE GOT A DEMOGRAPHIC HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN GARLAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIT WITH EACH TOWN HOME. OUR SWEET SPOT IS IN THAT 300 TO 3 75 THAT THAT'S OUR TARGET MARKET FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND FOR US TO BRING A HOME THAT THAT IS THAT HAS HIGH QUALITY. WE'RE ASKING FOR A 200 FT DEVIATION. FROM THAT 1400 DOWN TO 1200. UM I KNOW MR ROBERTS ACT ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING A PERCENTAGE ON THAT SINCE I DON'T HAVE A BUILDER YET . IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO. UM AS I'VE I'VE GONE THROUGH AND INTERVIEWED THEM. ABOUT HALF OF THEM HAVE A 1200 FT PRODUCT AND ABOUT HALF OF THEM DON'T AND SO KIND OF WHATEVER WE LAND WITH. 
          UM WHAT KIND OF BE THAT DETERMINING FACTOR FOR US. BUT I THINK YOU'RE I THINK YOU'LL BE HAPPY WITH THE PRODUCT. IT WILL STILL BE A HIGH QUALITY. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ALREADY, COMMISSIONER ROSE YES, SIR. AT THE TOP OF THE DRAWING. I'M LOOKING AT IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A ROAD. THAT GOES INTO YOUR PROPERTY. WHAT IS THAT? THAT REAL GRAND. I CAN'T READ IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THAT'S WHEN I WAS REFERRING TO. EARLIER AS WE TALKED TO TRANSPORTATION INTO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY COMING STRAIGHT DOWN RIO GRANDE AND USING OUR COMMUNITY AS A CUT THROUGH JUST TO DUMP DUMP RIGHT OUT ONTO ONTO CENTER BILL. AND SO TO ALLEVIATE THAT IT'S STUBBED OUT NOW AND ITS EXISTING 
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CONDITION IT JUST DEAD ENDS RIGHT THERE, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP THE EXISTING CONDITION THAT WILL BE FENCED OFF. THERE WON'T BE ANY ANY ACCESS THERE WHATSOEVER, PEDESTRIAN OR OTHERWISE. YOU THINK YOU'RE PUTTING THEIR I'M SORRY. TYPE OF FENCE. IT WILL BE A SIX FT BOARD ON BOARD, OKAY? YEP. ALREADY. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I THINK THE DRAWING MAY NEED TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOWED A WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALONG THE BACK THERE. MAYBE MAY BE WRONG IN THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY ONE ON KINGSLEY AND ON CENTERVILLE. IN MAY NOT HAVE BEEN LABELED THAT LABEL. OKAY. ALRIGHTY AND, UH THAT TAKES CARE OF THE WALL ISSUE, BUT I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES AND FROM THE COMMENT THAT I SAW IT WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT LOOKING IN TO THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE. BUT LOOKING DOWN IN THEIR KIDS PLAYING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO RIGHT, IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME CONDITION IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT CREATING ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST ALREADY FOR ANY TWO STORY HOME THAT WOULD BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING INTO THEIR NEIGHBOR'S YARD NOW, SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL SITUATION THAT DOESN'T EXIST FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS. NOW THAT'S ONE HOME TO EITHER SIDE WHERE THEY'VE GOT PROBABLY 15 TO 20 POSSIBLY LOOKING INTO THAT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE. SURE. OKAY CITY WOULDN'T LET YOU PUT A CUT IN THERE. OKAY ANOTHER THING THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN YOU SAID CUT THROUGH ABOUT THAT STREET YOU'VE GOT TO CUT THROUGH FROM KINGSLEY OVER THE CENTERVILLE. ANY THOUGHTS OF TWO AND THIS MAY BE SOMETHING FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY WOULD TRY TO GET FROM KINGSVILLE OVER THE CENTERVILLE OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INTERSECTION IS LIKE. I SEE IT A NO HERE SO IT MAY NOT. IT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE. I TOLD YOU KNOW , JUST A SECOND. LET ME GET YOU OKAY? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          ARE YOU JUST GOING TO SAY THAT? I MEAN THAT THERE'S A DISTRICT I USED TO REPRESENT? I LIVE NOT FAR FROM HERE. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN, KINGSLEY THAT YOU WOULD RATHER CUT THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAN CONTINUE DOWN KINGS LIKE BECAUSE CENTERVILLE RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, YOU WANT TO IF YOU'RE GONNA HOP ON EITHER, WHICH EITHER DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO USE THE LIGHT THAT'S AT KING'S WILLIAMS CENTERVILLE BECAUSE IT'S INTERSECTION IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE, THEN WITH BACKING UP OKAY? THAT WAS MY, UM. WELL WHILE I HAVE YOU. YOU'VE GOT THE INPUT ON, UH THAT INTERSECTION. CENTERVILLE CAN GET PRETTY BUSY THERE, RIGHT? UM THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON CENTERVILLE. I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED AND SOME OF THE STUFF TRAFFIC COUNT IN CENTERVILLE WHEN LAST DONE RIGHT AT THESE INTERSECTIONS WAS ABOUT 27 26,000 CARDS A DAY. UM OTHER PARTS OF CENTERVILLE CENTERVILLE IS DESIGNED IF I RECALL CORRECTLY IS ABOUT 55,000 CARDS A DAY IN HANDLES AS YOU GET CLOSER TO LBJ CLOSER TO ABOUT 44,000. I MEAN, SO I MEAN, IT'S A BUSY STREET, BUT IT'S DESIGNED FOR THIS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT ASSUME MR MCGUINNESS THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE TO THIS SIZE. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO DO ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY OR ANYTHING LIKE YOU'RE RIGHT. WE WEREN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO QUALIFY AT 88 AT 88 TOWN HOMES. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING A TALK ABOUT A DROP IN THE BUCKET IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF EVEN IF EVERYBODY LEFT ALL IN LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERY IF EVERYBODY IN EVERY HOUSE LEFT IN , YOU KNOW, SOME 15 MINUTES GROUPING I DON'T THINK YOU'D REALLY NOTICE ON CENTERVILLE AND ALL BUT I FORGOT TO ASK IN THE PUBLIC PORTION, BUT I'D ASK STAFF AND SINCE YOU'RE MY I KNOW , THIS IS KIND OF UNUSUAL. THIS IS YOUR MY EXPERT ON THAT STREET. WOULD THERE BE OF ANY BENEFIT OF A DECELL TURN LANE GOING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM CENTERVILLE? UH, FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. NOW THIS MAP IS UPSIDE DOWN. REMIND YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I MEAN, AND THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT AREA THAT'S KIND OF CARVED OUT THERE. THERE IS A BUSINESS THERE. THERE'S SOME OTHER BUSINESSES TO THE WEST. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF CUTS ALL DOWN THROUGH HERE. SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT REALLY ALL THE WAY CENTRAL ALL THE WAY TO LBJ FROM THIS PART, SO THANK YOU. 
          TRUE. I KNOW THERE WASN'T A QUESTION FOR YOU. BUT THERE HMM . ALRIGHTY AND THEN TRAFFIC CAN BE COVERED AND OPTION B. YOU COVERED AND STAFF WOULD LIKE US IN THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND OPTION B, WHICH GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO IF IT DOES GO, THEY CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY AMEND THE DETAILED PLAN WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO US. SO THEY WOULD LIKE THAT IN THE MOTION. ALRIGHT AND I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT BUILDER SOME BUILDERS MAY WANT TO COME IN AND DO ALL IDENTICAL 1200 SQUARE FOOT UNITS, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF VARIETY. BE BETTER, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE 25% UNDER 1400 OR AH! OR MAYBE YOU 
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CAN WORK THAT OUT AND PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE OF WHAT THAT MIX. 
          LOOKS LIKE WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL BUILDER. WE DON'T KNOW THE MIX. WE DON'T KNOW THE QUALITY BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE RIGHT AND BECAUSE THEY ARE ATTACHED UNITS. THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS ON JUMPING FROM A 1200 TO A 2000 BACK DOWN TO A 12 AND SO THAT THERE'S ONLY SO MANY THAT THEY COULD DO. UM REGARDLESS JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE LIMITATIONS. BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE SOMETHING FOR THE STAFF REPORT FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERS AND YOU MAY WANT TO BE LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF BREAKDOWN BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE'LL HAVE BREAKDOWNS OF SO MANY IN ONE SIZE AND SO MANY ANOTHER. BUT THIS WOULD JUST BE BREAKDOWN AND BELOW AND ABOVE SO UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. 100% 1200, I DON'T THINK DOES MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY. I THINK YOU KNOW 1200 TO 15 16 1800. THAT WOULD WORK BETTER ACCOMMODATE MORE FAMILY. MORE VARIETY OF FAMILIES, OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER ROSE AGAIN. UM WILL THERE BE A MANDATORY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? YES. CONTROLLING THIS? YES, SIR. THERE WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE TAKE CARE OF ANY UNAUTHORIZED PARKING, UM MAINTAIN THE PERIMETER, FENCING EVERYTHING INSIDE THE INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL I'VE GOT SOME OTHER SPEAKERS. 
          I'LL CALL YOU BACK. THANK YOU. WILLIAM DAVIS. AND SOME MORE. OKAY WE'VE GOT SOME NUT TESTIFYING AND I WILL CALL THOSE THAT ALL RIGHT. YOU READY? MY NAME IS BILL DAVIS LIVED FOR 14 2 LANE STREET, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO BLOCKS OR THREE BLOCKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CENTER BILL FROM THIS I'M IN DISTRICT FOUR, ALTHOUGH I HAVE A HOUSE AND OLD ORCHARD HILLS THAT'S IN DISTRICT FIVE. SO I'M FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS. AH IT'S BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO DEVELOP IT FOR THIS IN TOWN HOMES MAKES SENSE THAT THE CURRENT PRICE BREAKPOINTS. AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UM AND THERE WERE SEVERAL CONCERNS OF MINE AND ONE WAS HAVING LOOKED AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THAT HAVE THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND THESE TOWN HOMES APPROACHES. THERE'S ONE ON CENTERVILLE THAT I THINK HAS AN H O. A THAT RUNS AT 90 BUCKS A MONTH. AND IT'S PRETTY RUN DOWN. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE ONE THAT'S UH I WANT TO SAY ON GATEWAY OR SOMETHING OVER AND, UM, PROBABLY OVER BY, UH, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS HOUSE BUT ANYWAY GATEWAY WHERE THEY RANGE BETWEEN 202 150. I KNOW WE CAN'T DEDICATE. YOU KNOW, DICTATOR PRICING RIGHT THAT RANGE. BUT SOME ARE WRAPPED, KEPT OR KEPT UP, AND SOME ARE PRETTY WELL RUN DOWN, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND SOME OF THIS WITH THE H O A OBVIOUSLY THE O. 
          A IS THE CRITICAL COMPONENT ON KEEPING THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE VALUE OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND. AS FAR AS SQUARE FOOTAGE. MY RECOMMENDATION BEHIND THAT YOU'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RUNS BETWEEN I WANT TO SAY 1000 SQUARE FOOT AND 2500 SQUARE FOOT. MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE. OUR HOUSE IS LIKE 2400 SQUARE FEET. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE A, UM, ASSESSMENT OF THAT AREA AND SAY YOU HAVE TO MEET THE ESSENTIALLY MEET THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PARAMETERS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. TO GET SOME KIND OF VALID RANGE SO YOU MAY HAVE I WANT TO GUESS. 10% THAT'S THE 1200 OR THE YOU KNOW, AROUND THE 1200. MAYBE 1300 WOULD BE ANOTHER FIVE OR 10% AND THEN ON UP BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FAIRLY LARGE HOUSES IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET OVER TOWARDS, UH, RICH WOOD OR RICH DALE AND GLENBROOK. THOSE ARE VERY, VERY NICE HOUSES. ANYWAY THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY AND MIRROR THAT. BREAK OUT OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE OTHER, OBVIOUSLY BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING UP THERE, NONE OF THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE LEFT. SO I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT KIND OF MITIGATION FOR THAT IS THERE? I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SOME KIND OF OFFSET THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE FOR THE CITY BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. SO IF THERE IS AN OFFSET WHERE THE TREES GOING, AND HOW LARGE CAN THEY GET BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT POWER LINES AND WHAT HAVE YOU 
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RUNNING DOWN? ESSENTIALLY, WHAT I SEE IS THE OPEN SPACE. UM ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS. 
          ESSENTIALLY AT THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT WITH SOUTH GARLAND EXITING OUT OF COLOMBIA AH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE TRAFFIC AT SCHOOL BREAKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND OUT OF THERE DURING THAT SCHOOL TIME IS LIVING TWO BLOCKS FROM SOUTH GARLAND WITH THE STUDENTS. IT IS A CHALLENGE, SO I THINK THE TRAFFIC ALONG COLUMBIA SHOULD BE IN CONSIDERATION. IN ADDITION TO THE CENTERVILLE, CENTERVILLE, IT HAS ITS OWN ISSUES, BUT ALL RIGHT. IT IS A SIX LANE. FREEWAY PRACTICALLY. YEAH UM, I THINK THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. IF WE CAN HEAR ANY COMMENTS BACK, I'D APPRECIATE IT. AND MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU ON THE TREES. WE DO. WE DO HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE. UM, CERTAIN SIZED TREES THEY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE EITHER BY PLANTING BACK AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT AND OR PAINT INTO CITY FUND. FOR TO PLANT TREES ELSEWHERE AROUND THE CITY AND I CAN'T SAY FOR THIS ONE. BUT I'VE SEEN THOSE BILLS RUN UP INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THE WELL, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I'M BACK UP TO UNIVERSITY CHANNEL, WHICH WAS A PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE PLANTED THREE TREES, NATURE , THE NATURE OF DEVELOPMENT IS TREES ARE WIPED OUT. THEY COULD HAVE TO GET UTILITIES IN CHANGING GRADES. IT'S NOT ONE WHERE I FEEL HUGELY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST ONE WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE CITY OR SOMEBODY FOR IT RIGHT? ANYWAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, UH, MARIA COMPA. OKAY? HI THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS, SO I STARTED MY BAD NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WE'LL START YOU OFF WITH THAT. MY NAME IS MARIA DIAZ OCAMPO. AND I LIVE ON FOUR. OH ONE DUKE STREET. SO RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF COLOMBIA IN CENTERVILLE, YEAH. YEAH I'VE ACTUALLY SOME NEIGHBORS HERE TOO. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE DUKE STREET NEIGHBORS IN RIDGEWOOD PARK. 
          THIS AFTERNOON AFTER WORKING EARLY ELECTIONS, I WENT DOOR TO DOOR TO SPEAK TO MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS AND ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE 88 TOWN HOUSES. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL CAUSE NOT SO MUCH AFTER BUILDING IS JUST DURING THE BUILDING. I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE. AND IF YOU REVIEW THE COMMENTS ON THE ZONING PUBLIC, WHAT'S WEBSITE? MANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE AGREED WITH ME. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF LOSING THAT GREEN SPACE BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAS PROTECTED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE HEAVY RAINS FROM NORTH TEXAS OR THE FLOODING FROM NORTH TEXAS HEAVY RAINS. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO DEVELOP, BUT THIS PROJECT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT TOO LARGE AND TOO DENSE FOR SUCH AS SMALL GREEN AREA. AND I KNEW ONE DAY I'D HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE. TO THE WOODS. I GREW UP PLAYING WITH, BUT IT'S SADDENING TO SEE ITS LOSS IN 88 TOWNHOUSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR IT? YOU DID A GREAT JOB. HURRY AND LESS SPEAKER CARD TO HAVE, UH, SOME OTHER CARDS HERE IS A MARIA GARCIA CAN'T QUITE READ THE HANDWRITING AND PUT YOUR NAMES FOR A LIVING SO. AND SEXUALLY GALICIA, BUT PRETTY CLOSE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARIA GALICIA AND I LIVE AT 403 WEST RIO GRANDE. MORE THAN ANYTHING. I'M HERE FOR MY MOTHER. SHE CAN'T ACTUALLY MAKE IT SO SHE ACTUALLY LIVES ON RIO GRANDE ON EAST RIO GRANDE THE OPPOSITE SIDE. SO UM , I'M ACTUALLY UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY AGAINST THE WHOLE REZONING PROPOSITION. I WOULD I WOULD WANT THEM TO RECONSIDER IN ELIMINATING SOME OF THE CURRENT HOMES, ESPECIALLY ON EAST RIO GRANDE. UM I LIVE ON REAL GRAND WEST RIO GRANDE. AND I ALREADY KNOW THE TRAFFIC IS BAD RIGHT ON KINGSLEY AND FIRST STREET. UM I ALSO KNOW THAT SOUTH GARLAND GETS VERY HEAVY WITH IT. SO I JUST THINK THAT THE SCALE OF THIS PROPOSED, UM TOWN HOMES. I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING WAY MORE TRAFFIC ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH KINGSLEY. 
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CUTTING THROUGH OUR STREET TO GET INTO GOING, UM KINGSLEY TOWARDS GARLAND. SO I JUST THINK THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD RECONSIDER ELIMINATING SOME OF THE CURRENT HOMES FOR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. UM THAT LOVED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I WOULD HATE FOR YOU ALL TO MOVE MY MOM OUT OF THE SAME STREET. TO BE HONEST. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE SOME CARDS HERE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO SPEAK BUT ONE OF VOICE THEIR POSITION. MICHAEL HARRIS. OH, NO. YOU ARE TESTIFYING. COME ON DOWN. OH NOT THAT NOT TESTIFYING . I'M SORRY, BUT HE'S AGAINST MY THUMB WAS OVER THE NOT UH, COUNTY MARA, NOT TESTIFYING, AND YOU ARE AGAINST IT. AND DAVID MARTA ALSO AGAINST IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE. TO SPEAK JUST BECAUSE COMMAND DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN FILL OUT A CARD LATER. UH, EVERYBODY'S EVERYBODY'S DOING GREAT. WELL I ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER CONCERNS OUT. MY NAME IS DAVID MARTIN. I LIVE AT 3406 SYRACUSE DRIVE. I USED TO. WELL, ME AND MY FAMILY USED TO SHOP ALL THE TIME RIGHT THERE. ON FIRST IN KINGSLEY AND MORE GUESS MORE RECENTLY, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST YEAR, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE, UM BAD THINGS GOING ON IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T HAVE ANY CRIME STATISTICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM I JUST KNOW THAT AFTER A LONG TIME OF SHOPPING THERE, WE JUST STOPPED SHOPPING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MORE CRIME. JUST HAVING YOU KNOW THOSE HOUSES SO CLOSE TOGETHER NOT COSTING AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW SOME OF THE HOUSES IN THE OTHER AREAS NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY STATISTICS ON THAT EITHER. YOU KNOW, ALL I SEE IS, YOU KNOW WE USED TO LIVE IN DALLAS. WE SAW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GET I DON'T KNOW, GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. AND YOU KNOW THE CRIME JUST GOT WORSE AND WORSE. AND NOW WE'VE BEEN IN GARLAND FOR YOU KNOW ABOUT 25 YEARS AND ALMOST 30 YEARS ACTUALLY, AND OUR KIDS GREW UP IN BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS, BETTER SCHOOLS AND BUT I AGREED WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAID ABOUT COLOMBIA. I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH GETTING IN AND OUT OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM I MEAN, WE LIVE IN A COLD SACK AND JUST LIKE THE CORNER. WHICH IS WE HAVE TO GO DOWN COLUMBIA JUST TO GET TO THE HOUSE AND YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING. IT'S TOUGH IN THE AFTERNOON. IT'S TOUGH AND YOU KNOW, IN THAT FOUR O'CLOCK I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST HORRIBLE, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE JUST MY POSITION. IF. OH THAT'S APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. I ASKED THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP. COME ON DOWN, SIR. FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER GOT GOT TWO OF YOU. LADIES FIRST, RIGHT? NO, GO AHEAD. I'M CINDY LARSON. 34 0 TO SYRACUSE. AND I'VE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE FOR ABOUT 48 49 YEARS. AND I REMEMBER THE APARTMENTS THAT USED TO BE IN THIS AREA. AND THE POLICE HELICOPTERS WERE ALWAYS FLYING OVER AND IT WAS AH, IT DETERIORATED, THEY FINALLY TORE HIM DOWN. AND I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE THERE. UM THE WE ALL NEED SOME SPACE AND UH, I JUST THINK THAT WE JUST ADDING FOR I THINK 88. 
          TOWN HOMES IS AN AWFUL LOT FOR THIS LITTLE BITTY AREA BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT THAT LARGE. AND I THINK WHEN WE PILE PEOPLE ON TOP OF PEOPLE ON TOP OF PEOPLE. THAT'S WHEN WE RUN INTO A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED SOME SEPARATION. THEY NEED SOME SPACE. AND UM IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE CHURCH GOING IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS, WASN'T IT? UM, THE SOUND HOLMES. THE ARMS ARE SMALL SECTION FOR SINGLE FAMILY. THERE WAS A SECTION FOR MULTI FAMILY AND A SECTION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. I BELIEVE SO IT WAS A MIX OF MIX OF THINGS. AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO KEEP UP WITH HOW IT KEEPS CHANGING. I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THAT 88 TOWN HOMES IS AN AWFUL LOT, 
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ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF HOMES THEY'RE GONNA BE. PARTICULARLY AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDER AND DID HE MENTION THE GREEN SPACE? DOES HE HAVE A PLACE FOR KIDS TO PLAY? OKAY? BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT. AND TRAFFIC. LOTS AND LOTS OF TRAFFIC. HMM AND I KNOW YOU DON'T DO TRAFFIC, BUT CENTERVILLE HAS BECOME A SPEEDWAY. AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST AND THEY JUST YOU KNOW, AND YOU JUST ADD MORE TO IT. AND THAT INTERSECTION WHERE, UM, KINGSLEY AND CENTERVILLE MEET. THERE ARE LOTS OF ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED THERE. SO ANYWAY, THEN, THROUGH MY CONCERNS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD NIGHT FOR EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS THE CARD OF THE YES. I LIVE IN A PHOTO, TOO. AH THE AUGUST STREET. EXCUSE ME FOR A ONE WAY STREET. THAT'S MEAN THE CORNER. IN FRONT OF THE LAST BUILDINGS. MY CONCERN IS SOMETHING UH I TRIED. TO I ENJOYED MY PROPERTY BECAUSE I HAVE AN ACUTE AND A GOOD SPACE AND I CAN SEE THIS SPACE. TODAY WITH THIS PROJECT, I FEEL HE'S GOING IN THE MASS PRODUCTION. IN A IN A MOMENT, WE CHANGE THE POPULATION. SO QUICKLY. I SO I CAN SO AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND. AND I ENJOY THE OLD PEOPLE AND THE NEW PEOPLE IS COMING TO US. BUT GIVE ME OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHO COME IN WHEN I SAW HIM, HE TOWNS I AM GOING CRAZY. AND I CONSIDER ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE CRYING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ABOUT EVERYTHING. PROBABLY THE NICE LIFE. HE'S TRYING TO HAVE AN IMBALANCE. I THINK 80 TONGUE HOUSES IS NOT A BALANCE IS A MASS PRODUCTION. AND I LIKE TO LIVE IN THE NORMAL PRODUCTION. PROBABLY ANOTHER PROJECT CAN BE BETTER OVER THERE. BUT THIS ONE IS TOO HIGH FOR OUR LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. IS THERE. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE HIRING TWO WAS ADDRESSED THE COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME IS DANE SORENSEN. I LIVE IN A 406 DUKE STREET. MY MAIN CONCERN IS, UH, ONE WITH THE, UM . WITH THE ADDITION OF THE 88 PROPERTIES. UH IF ANY ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR RENT WITH WITHIN, LIKE THE H O A OVEN YOU'RE GONNA BE RENTED OUT OR IF THERE'S LIKE A BALANCE OF HOW MANY THAT CAN BE RENTED OUT. UM IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY, UM IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY, LIKE INCREASED LIKE FUNDING FOR POLICE OFFICERS FOR THE AREA. AND IF THERE'S ANY BACKSTOP, SO LIKE IF THE PROJECT LOSES FUNDING, LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT LEFT WITH, LIKE A CONSTRUCTION SITE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. COMMISSION OH, NO. LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT BACKUP. TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE. OKAY? THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE. 
          BUT I'LL TRY TO GO OVER TO THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE LANDSCAPING PLANS. IF I CAN. YEAH IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. BUT THE ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES, UM EACH OF THE HOMES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TREES PLANTED. UM WE DO NOT GET CREDIT FOR THOSE, SO WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO PLANT OR PAY OVER AND ABOVE. THOSE WILL ALSO BE. WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE PARK. WE HAVE A MANDATORY PARK SPACE THAT WE EXCEED. YOU KNOW, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO PUT TO, UH, PUT UP TO BELIEVE 14 UNITS PER ACRE. WE'RE PUTTING IN NINE AND SO ON A ON A LESS THAN 10 ACRE PROJECT. WE'VE GOT 2.5 ACRES OF OPEN GREEN SPACE. UM SOME OF THAT THE PARK DEDICATION IS 
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THEY'RE THEY'RE A COUPLE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM AS A DEVELOPER, AND DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE YOU CHOOSE HAS A MIXTURE OF ADDITIONAL TREES. LANDSCAPING YOU CAN PICK PERGOLAS PARK BENCHES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OR YOU CAN GO WITH A TRUE AMENITY CENTER. UM BUT THAT'S ANOTHER. WE'VE PICKED ONE WITH THE PARK THAT WILL THAT WILL HAVE TREE DEDICATION THERE. 
          WE DON'T GET CREDIT FOR THOSE EITHER. UM SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO EITHER REPLACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE RIGHT AWAY HAS A AN AREA THAT THAT HAS A LANDSCAPING BUFFER IN IT. UM THAT ALSO HAS A TREE REQUIREMENT. WE DON'T GET CREDIT FOR THOSE EITHER. UM SO, UM, WE ARE REPLACING A LOT OF TREES JUST BY REQUIREMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS I HEARD SOMEONE SAY LATER THAT YOU KNOW THE TREE MITIGATION CAN GO INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. THIS ONE GOES WELL INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. UM IN ADDITION TO ALL THE TREES THAT WE WILL BE PLANNING, SO I WISH THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHERE ALL OF THOSE GO, BUT I FORGET I FORGET THE NUMBER OF JUST REQUIRED TREES THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO IN THERE, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT. UM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT TREE BANK FOR THE CITY TO BE FOR OTHER TREES BE PLANTED. THERE WAS A THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. UM I KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS. IT HAPPENS ON CITY PROJECTS. IT HAPPENS ON PRIVATE PROJECTS. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT IN TRAFFIC MEASURES AND THOSE ARE THERE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC. UM, IF WE'VE GOT IF WE'VE GOT A GUY, YOU KNOW THAT IF WE'VE GOT, UH BLACK AIDS OUT THERE OR SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT'S DOING ACTUAL TRAFFIC. IT'S THERE SPECIFICALLY TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC, SO THERE AREN'T ANY ACCIDENTS THAT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC PROTECTS THE WORKERS AND THERE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME GROWING PAINS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY AND ANY OTHER LAWS. UM AND JUST DO THE BEST WE CAN TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT CRIME. UM THERE'S A LARGE PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. THAT IS HIS OWN MULTI FAMILY THAT WE CAN BUILD TODAY BY, RIGHT, UM AND I KNOW THE CONCERNS WITH MULTI FAMILY. MY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IS MULTI FAMILY IS MORE OF A TRANSITORY TYPE. HOUSING IS TYPICALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING FROM ONE STAGE OF LIFE TO ANOTHER, SO THERE'S A LOT OF TURNOVER. IT ALSO ATTRACTS YOUNG KIDS THAT CAN'T AFFORD PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          AND WE ALL IF YOU'VE GOT YOUNG KIDS, WE ALL KNOW WHAT COMES WITH THAT. UM, WITH THE TOWN HOMES, AND ESPECIALLY AT THIS PRICING. THESE ARE GONNA BE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE PRIDE IN WHERE THEY LIVE. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WILL INCREASE CRIME. ONE BIT THAT ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE AND BE PROUD TO BE THERE AND WANT TO KEEP THE THEIR VALUES UP JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HOMEOWNERS IN THE VICINITY. WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON THE GREEN SPACE, THE UNITS PER ACRE. UM RENTAL UNITS AT THIS AT THIS PRICING MY EXPERIENCE THAT THERE WILL BE VERY FEW. THESE WILL BE ON OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS THAT I THINK WILL BRING VALUE TO THE AREA. YOU KNOW, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE AT A VERY SIMILAR PRICE. SOME OF THESE WILL BE HIGH. SOME OF THE TOWN HOMES WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING HOMES. THERE. UM SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR CONCERN. UM, AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT FUNDING. UM. WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT. THIS PARTICULAR BUILT DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE FUNDING EVERY ALL OF OUR THE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE DONE WITH PRIVATE EQUITY. AND THOSE GUYS ARE LINED UP TO DO THAT. NOW THEY KIND OF STEPPED OUT LAST FRIDAY WHEN THEY PURCHASED ALL THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NO DEBT ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S ALL DONE WITH CASH. UM WE'RE NOT USING TRADITIONAL BANKING AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT GIVES SOME PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND IT. YOU KNOW, SOME COMFORT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BANK BREATHING DOWN HER NECK. SAYING YOU GOT TO DO THIS. YOU GOTTA DO THIS OR, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO SOME TYPE OF FORECLOSURE SITUATION ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT WHEN YOU DO USE PRIVATE EQUITY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. THAT MONEY COST GUYS WANT TO SEE A RETURN AND WE'VE GOT TO PERFORM. AND SO THIS THING IS NOT GOING TO SIT AROUND. ONCE WE BREAK GROUND, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. WE'VE GOT AN INCENTIVE TO DO THAT. UM. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT ON MY LIST. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ARBEN THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THOSE COMMENTS, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO LANDSCAPING. FIRST QUESTION AS I WAS KIND OF REVIEWING THE LANDSCAPE POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME REAL INTENTIONALITY BEHIND THE SELECTION OF TREES SUCH THAT THE FOLIAGE THAT YOU PROVIDE, WILL LOOK A CERTAIN SORT OF WAY DURING DIFFERENT SEASONS. WHY CHINESE ROSE BYRD AND HE THOUGHTS ON THAT. I DON'T. IT'S 
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A I MEAN, NOT THAT CHINESE. IT'S A IT'S A TREE THAT ONLY LIVES ABOUT 70 YEARS PRODUCES BEAUTIFUL, PINKISH COLOR, BUT IT ONLY IT DOESN'T DOESN'T LAST AS LONG AS SOME OF THE OTHER DROUGHT TOLERANT STATE TREES, SO JUST THAT'S NOT. THAT'S NOT A KILLER HERE. I'M JUST THROUGH MY WHY THAT THAT ONE LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT. I'M ALSO THERE'S A THERE'S NO, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN ANY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY GUARANTEE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD WARRANTIES THAT THE RIGHT WORD, EITHER THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD UNTIL IT'S OF COURSE, FULLY COVERED BY THE H O A MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE THOSE TREES WILL BE WATERED AND MULCH TO THAT SORT OF THING IS THAT I'M I'M HEARING PRIVATE EQUITY. I'M HEARING COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT. DO I HEAR AND A COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT THAT VISION COMES DIFFERENT NATION. MOST OF THOSE WHEN WE PURCHASED THOSE TYPES OF LANDSCAPING THERE, GIVEN TYPICALLY A 12 MONTH GUARANTEE, AND THAT'S THAT'S UNDER THE GUIDELINES IF THEY ARE PROPERLY IRRIGATED AND MAINTAINED, AND SO WE HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THAT 1ST 12 MONTHS BEFORE WE HAND ANYTHING OVER TO THE H O A OTHERWISE, WE'RE REPLACING THAT OUT OF OUR POCKET AND WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT. YEP YEAH, YOU'RE BACK ON, SIR. APOLOGIZE MR CHAIRMAN ON THE QUESTION OF THE H O. A IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ARE YOU ALL TO SOME DEGREE OR HANDS ON? LET'S SAY WITHOUT THAT THAT 12 MONTH PERIOD EXPIRES AND HOUSES GOD FORBID AND NOT ARE PURCHASED IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR AGE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE DEVELOPERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE IN THAT PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT ? OKAY SO YOUR YOUR COMMITMENT COULD EXTEND BEYOND JUST AT 12 MONTHS AND THAT ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME. THAT'S RIGHT. TYPICALLY IN THESE SITUATIONS I PERSONALLY WILL BE THE DECLARATION. IN THE H O A. AND WE WON'T HAND OFF UNTIL WE HIT A HIGH PERCENTAGE. UH NUMBER OF HOMES THAT WE'VE SOLD. WELL, WE WANT TO SEE IS WE WANT TO GET THE H O A UP AND RUNNING TO WHERE THEY CAN ADEQUATELY FUND ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S REQUIRED. AND WHAT? WHAT WE DO GOING INTO THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH AND BID OUT ACTUALLY EACH ONE OF THESE SERVICES IN TODAY'S RATES AND THEN WE'LL BUILD IN A RATE INCREASE INTO THE FUTURE. SO WHEN YOU COME IN AND SIGN OUR H O A DOCUMENT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE . HERE'S WHAT IT COSTS TODAY. 
          HERE'S WHAT WE CAN GO TO IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE VOTE. UM TO COVER ANY ADDITIONAL COST. SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MR MCGUINNESS JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DENSITY OR THE NUMBER OF HOMES HERE AND KIND OF THE SIZE AND MEETING SPACE AND WHATNOT. BUT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. YOU'VE DONE SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT WORK HERE IN THE CITY. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE DEMAND LEVEL FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT FOR THIS SIZE, AND YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT. WE DON'T LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS, YOU KNOW, HALF AN ACRE ANYMORE KIND OF THING OR SURE YOU'RE SEEING WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY, UH, IN CITIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS THIS MATURITY PROCESS ON THE LEVEL AND ARE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'VE GOT MORE INFILL TYPE PRODUCT AND REDEVELOPMENT PRODUCT AND YOU DO HAVE NEW HOMES. UM WE'RE SEEING THAT MORE AND MORE ACROSS THE BOARD TO WHERE THOSE THAT ARE RETIRED. THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE. KIDS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS LOW MAINTENANCE. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME IN, PAY THEIR H O A FEE, NOT MOW GRASS. NOT HAVE TO MAINTAIN EXTERIOR. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE LANDSCAPING , IRRIGATION THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO WE'VE SEEN A KIND OF TURNING THE ENTIRE METROPLEX. ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY DEVELOPMENT COSTS HAVE HAVE RISEN. BUILDING COSTS. UM WE REALLY STARTED TO CUT AN ENTIRE DEMOGRAPHIC OUT OF THE HOME OWNER. YOU KNOW MARKET THEY JUST CAN'T DO ANYMORE. WE'VE TURNED THEM ALL INTO RENTERS BECAUSE OF THE PRICING IS SO HIGH. AND UH, YOU KNOW TO TODAY'S PRICING. I DO A LOT OF STUFF ON THE PERIMETER OF THE METROPLEX AND IN THE WHAT WE CONSIDER ENTRY LEVEL HOUSING OR SECOND MOVE UP AND WE FIND OURSELVES HAVING TO GO MORE AND MORE AND FURTHER AND FURTHER OUT OF WHAT WE CALL THE METROPLEX BUBBLE BECAUSE THERE JUST ISN'T AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE AND SO WHAT MOST OF THE BUILDERS ARE TRYING TO DO IS FIT A NICHE THERE THAT NOT ONLY HITS A CERTAIN PRICE POINT BUT THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THEIR BUYER WANTS A CERTAIN QUALITY, AND THE QUALITY DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE. A LOT OF THAT TIME IS JUST FINISH OUT MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE GOING FOR. I KNOW HERE IN IN GARLAND, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE OPEN GREEN SPACE. UM YOU KNOW, I 
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CAN TELL YOU FROM WORKING WITH OTHER CITIES THAT I'D LIKE TO COME IN THE CITY ON THE TYPE OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE SPENDING ON CURRENT GREEN SPACES. I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKING A VALID EFFORT TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PARK'S INCREASE THE QUALITY OF PARKS GIVE PEOPLE A DESTINATION TYPE PLACE TO GO. YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN A LOT OF CITIES AND SOME OF THE PARKS THAT YOU HAVE GOT HERE WITH THE SKATE PARKS AND ALSO A LOT OF THE REALLY NEAT THINGS THEY DON'T SEE ANOTHER CITIES IS A REAL BONUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, FOLLOW UP IN A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR RHODEN THAT WE HAVE ADDED LANGUAGE TO ALL PDS AND ORDINANCES REQUIRING MAINTENANCE AND IT GIVES THE CITY A REMEDY WHEN WALLS AND LANDSCAPING AREN'T MAINTAINED, WHERE THEY CAN COME IN AND FIX IT AND FIND OR FEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S A GENERAL DEAL, SO THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE THESE DAYS. SO ONCE HE TRANSFERS IT OVER THERE, STILL OBLIGATED BY THAT SAME REQUIREMENT, AND YOU'LL SEE IN OUR IN OUR BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE MANDATORY INSURANCE COVER THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS. UM ON THE QUESTION OF CONSTRUCTION , USUALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS TRASH AND DEBRIS BLOWING ALL OVER. WHAT KIND OF, UH CAUTIONS. DO YOU TAKE ANOTHER STANDARD PRECAUTIONS DURING BUILDING? YOU KNOW, AS AS A DEVELOPER, I TRY TO WATCH DOG THAT THE BEST I CAN. WHEN IT GETS WINDY. IT GETS DIFFICULT. UM BUT WE DO GO THROUGH, AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS A LOT OF WATCHDOG MEASUREMENTS PUT IN PLACE FOR TRAFFIC. EXCUSE ME, TRASH BINS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO TRY TO PROTECT SOME OF THAT. UM SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH THINGS IN PLACE. UM THAT BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE CITY. I DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE MANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT, TYPICALLY, AFTER DO THIS BIG PLYWOOD DEALS, AND EVERYBODY THROWS THEIR TRASH AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A SILK FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY RIGHT FOR EROSION. BULK OF THE GROUND BLONDE STUFF. CORRECT RIGHT RENTALS. THIS IS ANOTHER SUGGESTION. KIND OF LIKE TREES. BUT THE H O A HAS THE ABILITY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF RENTALS IN THEIR BYLAWS. UH, YOU KNOW, 10% OR 15% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A FULL RENTAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAYBE CONSIDERATION, AND IT MAY BE A SELLING POINT AND SELLING THOSE . THE TOWN HOMES THAT THE WHOLE PLACE WON'T BECOME RENTAL SURE, SURE, UNDERSTOOD ALREADY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMMISSION, MOTION DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ROSE AND COMMISSIONER ALL BEEN MOVING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN DID I HEAR A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PAIRS ALREADY? OH COMMISSIONER, ROSE, I SAW YOUR NAME I ALREADY YEAH. OH YEAH. HE LOOKS SO MUCH YOUNGER. YEAH YEAH. VOTERS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ONLY. NOPE. FIND IT AGAIN. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMISSIONER OFTEN YOU HIT THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. A COUPLE OF THINGS AND PART OF THIS IS YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS IN THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT ON THE COMMISSION AND THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENTED WHEN I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. UM IN A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THE FOR THE KNOWLEDGE OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. UM YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT THAT THAT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED. 
          AT SOME POINT. IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED. AND, UM, THE QUESTION IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. WHEN I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE MR MCGINNIS STARTED TO LOOK INTO THIS PROPERTY. WE DID HAVE ANOTHER TOWN HOME DEVELOPER WOULD LOOKED AT IT AND FELT THAT IT WAS TOO DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP. 
          THAT DEVELOPER ACTUALLY OWNED THE AREA AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND SOLD TO THE CHURCH. UM AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT I WAS CONTACTED BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO BUILD MANY WAREHOUSE STORAGE. UH UM, 50,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY OF WAREHOUSE STORAGE. SO, UM. WHICH I AM AND ALSO FOR THOSE OF YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS ALSO STRONGLY OPPOSED THAT. UM BUT IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING AND THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED. YOU HAVE A MIX OF ZONING. THAT'S HERE. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, SO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS COULD GO IN THERE BY RIGHT. YOU'D NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPPOSE IT. 
          MULTI FAMILY HAS BY RIGHT PART OF IT IS OWNED. THE ZONING IS KIND OF WEIRD IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAPS BECAUSE THE ZONING WAS DRAWN PRIOR TO UH, KINGSLEY BEING CUT THROUGH THE WAY IT IS , WHICH MADE A MESS OF EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A MISHMASH OF OWNERSHIPS AND OTHER STUFF, SO IT'S A DIFFICULT IT'S A DIFFICULT SITE, BUT THE FOLKS WHO OWN 
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PARTICULARLY FOLKS WHO OWNED OWNED, UH, THAT SECTION THAT BORDERS ON CENTERVILLE. IT'S FOR GOOD OR ILL. IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AH, UM, A RELATIVELY LOW DENSITY. UM NICE DEVELOPMENT. I KNOW THAT THE FOLKS WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE ZONING DECISIONS BASED ON WHETHER THE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE ARE GOING TO RENT IT OR BUY OR WHETHER OR HOW MUCH SOMETHING COSTS OR ANYTHING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE VALUATIONS ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF IT. I MEAN, IF MR MCGUINNESS IS RIGHT, AND I HAVE NO REASON TO JUST BELIEVE HIM. THESE HOUSES ARE GONNA FOR THESE HOMES ARE GONNA BE 300 TO $375,000. UM YOU KNOW? THESE ARE NOT CRIMINALS. THESE ARE THESE ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING HOMES WHO WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AND THEIR HOMES WILL BE VALUED MORE THAN MOST OF ANYONE WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA. 
          ALL THE HOMES TO THE WEST. THERE ARE AT OR BELOW $200,000 EVALUATION. AND IN THE HOMES TO THE TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE WAY. SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER 300,000. SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE NOT SPENDING. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE ACCUSING ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS OF COMING IN TO COMMIT CRIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN A HOUSE THAT'S AS EXPENSIVE AS THE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S TOWN HOMES DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN SOMETHING THAT'S BAD. UM AND AS MR MCGUINNESS STATED, YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN GARLAND, WHO ARE AT OR PAST RETIREMENT AGE. AND YOU KNOW, MY FOLKS GOT TO A POINT WHERE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO UPKEEP THE HOUSE. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO. YOU KNOW, MY MOTHER GOT TIRED OF MOWING THE GRASS, WHICH IS A WHOLE NOTHER STORY. MY MOM WAS DOING THAT, MY DAD, BUT YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE HERE FOR THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT IT, UM IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED. IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED. I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT ANY OTHER NOTES THAT I MIGHT HAVE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE CONCERNS. UM BUT YOU KNOW THE ONE THING THAT I HEARD ALL THE TIME WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL IS WHY CAN'T WE GET BETTER RETAIL. 
          WHY CAN'T WE GET YOU KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO CHICK FIL A. THEY WON IN 80 B. THEY WANT AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. WHICH I COMPLETELY YOU KNOW, I AGREE. I YOU KNOW, I WANT THAT TOO. I MEAN, I LOVE WINK. OH BUT I WANT THAT I WANT GREAT STUFF, TOO. BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT IS WITH MORE ROOFTOPS AND WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE GOT YOU KNOW THE MONEY TO SPEND TO DRAW THAT? BECAUSE THESE FOLKS COME IN. THEY DRAW. SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A CHICK FIL A. THEY DRAW A CIRCLE AROUND IT AND THEY FIGURE OUT WHO LIVES THERE. AND WHETHER ENOUGH ROOFTOPS TO SUPPORT IT. 
          AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT ACTUALLY DRIVES OUT CRIME. WHAT'S MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT THAT WE WOULD ALL GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT OR OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW A VACANT FIELD OR 88 HOMES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT, SO YOU KNOW IT. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS HERE. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND I SAW SOME OF THE POSTS. I DIDN'T RESPOND ON FACEBOOK TODAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE HEARING THIS TONIGHT. WANTED TO LISTEN TO FOLKS. UM YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT FIRST THOUGHT IS OH, MY GOD. NO YOU KNOW, DON'T DO THIS. UM BUT BUT I HOPE THAT YOU'LL THINK ABOUT IT WILL BE A THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BODY THAT MAKES THIS DECISION. THIS WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE SAY TONIGHT. UM AND SO REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER RICHARD COUNCIL MEMBER LOCKED IS CRATE. SHE'S VERY RESPONSIVE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS ALSO GREAT BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. UM YOU KNOW, KATIE WHEN THERE WAS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY CASE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH FOLKS AND TALK TO THEM AND TALK TO FOLKS AND GET YOU, YOU KNOW TO EXTEND POSSIBLE GET YOUR CONCERNS ADDRESSED. BUT, UM BUT ANYWAY, SO SORRY. THAT WAS MORE OF A DISCUSSION, BUT BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS AT TIMES CAN BE CHANGED LIKE THIS CAN BE CONCERNING AND SCARY, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS, UM THIS, REALLY I DON'T THINK YOU COULD HONESTLY GET A BETTER PRODUCT HERE. UM AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE AND I THINK IT WILL BE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. LEVERAGE A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN MAKING IN THE PARKS AND OTHER STUFF IS GOING TO DRAW FOR FOLKS ARE GONNA WANT TO LIVE HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE CLOSE TO LONG WIND PARK, WHICH IS GETTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND IMPROVEMENT AND NEW SPLASH PAD. 
          LIBRARY KIOSK. OTHER THINGS ACCESS TO THE TRAILS RAN ONE OF THE BEST TRAIL SYSTEMS IN THE METROPLEX. AND SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE AND FOR THAT REASON, YOU KNOW, I 
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DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR WHAT WHAT THE OTHER MEMBERS THINK, BUT BUT I INTEND TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I WILL ADD ONE MORE. AND YOU COULD YOU PICKED UP ON EVERYTHING. UM DIFFERENCE IN TOWN HOMES AND APARTMENTS IS A TOWN HOME. YOU OWN THE LAND UNDERNEATH IT. YOU OWN THE BUILDING. YOU SHARE THE WALL. SO IT IS AN OWNERSHIP FORM OF UH, HOUSING VERSUS RENTAL. AND, UH, AND I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE POSSIBLY THE RESTRICTION AND SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES OVERLOOKING THOSE YARDS IN THE BACK. THEY'VE HAD THAT PRIVACY FOR 40 YEARS AND SO IT WOULD BE MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TO INCLUDE THE OPTION B. SO STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH HIM ON ON ANY LAYOUT AND AGAIN, IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE ONLY ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. COMMISSIONER. ROBIN LET ME GET YOU LIVE THERE. WHERE ARE YOU? THERE YOU ARE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS. I BELIEVE IT'S C AND D BOTH ITEMS. THREE CND. WITH THAT INCLUDE THE OPTION B. WITH A PREFERENCE FOR THE OPTION B, WHICH I'M EVERYBODY WOULD PREFER THAT WELL, WHAT THAT DOES IS, IF THEY COME IN WITH AN AMENDED DETAILED PLAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE US TO LEARNING SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. DO I HEAR A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. SIX SECOND DAY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AUBIN TO APPROVE WITH THE OPTION B. OPTION. MHM AND SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO APPROVE ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT. IT DOES GIVE US THOUGHT AND EVERYTHING AND DO SHOW UP AGAIN 
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AT THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. ALREADY THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA OR ADOPT ANOTHER TWO PARTER ITEM TO E CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF PAPER DAWSON ENGINEERING INC. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU USE PROPERTIES OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 600 TO NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND ITEM THREE F CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF PAPER DOTS AND ENGINEERING INC. APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH IN THE APPLICANT IS HERE, MATTHEW MOLLY. MAILLY. DID YOU CARE? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ALWAYS THAT OKAY. COME ON DOWN, SIR. MHM. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS MATTHEW MALIAN, WITH DAWSON ENGINEERS, AND THE ADDRESS IS TO A ONE MAIN STREET. FORT WORTH, TEXAS 76102. 
          COMMISSIONER THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR MAINLY FOR SITTING THROUGH ALL OUR PRIOR TO CASES. UM QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS IS A STARBUCKS THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT OVER NEAR THE BANK OF AMERICA. THERE WAS ONE THAT WE APPROVED. SIX MONTHS AGO, SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT LINE, AND DID THAT IS HAS THAT BEEN CANCELED? IT WAS IN FRONT OF THE IN FRONT OF WALMART. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. BECAUSE MY CLIENT HE DOES LIKE THE SHELL BUILD OUT FOR STARBUCKS. AND SO WE'VE ASKED THE QUESTION IF IT'S A RELOCATION, BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW. OKAY THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WE'VE ASKED, UM AND I HAVE AN ASSUMPTION, BUT I DON'T HONEST ANSWER. 
          COMMISSIONER PROBABLY HAS AN ANSWER FOR YOU, SIR. WE, UM WE APPROVED THE SOURED AND GO WITH THAT LOCATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TO REPLACE SO THE APPARENTLY THE STARBUCKS BACKED OUT OF THAT LOCATION, BUT THE LOCATION WHERE THE STARBUCKS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO WE HAD DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER IT CAME OR MAYBE IT WAS IN THAT SHORT TIME YOU'RE OFF, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE LOCATION THERE. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM I'M JUST GOING TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. LOOK A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AWAY THE SITES LAID OUT THE HANDICAPPED PARKING HAS ACROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC TO GET INTO THE FRONT DOOR. NOW I LOOKED AT ANOTHER WAY. BUT I REALIZED THAT THAT DRIVE TOWARDS THE STREET ISN'T AN EASEMENT THAT WE JUST APPROVED TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THE PLANTS, SO THERE'S NO MOVING NET AND GETTING PARKING RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE BUILDING. THE OTHER ONE IS AND MAYBE YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT? IS THAT A STANDARD TRASH? DUMPSTER CONTAINER SIZE. THEY'VE GOT TWO DUMPSTERS FOR THAT ONE BUILDING. YES SO WE, 
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STARBUCKS HAD A TWO DUMPSTER REQUIREMENT AND BASED ON CITY STANDARDS, REALLY MATCHING THE. 
          THE WIDTH OF PAPER CUPS. IT IS IT IS, WE ACTUALLY WENT, I THINK ONCE FOR RECYCLING ONES FOR TRASH, BUT WE WENT THROUGH SOME RATIONS WHERE THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. TO GET IT JUST RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW, EVERYDAY CARRY I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR HAVING ME OKAY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION DISCUSSION ISSUE, CHAIR COMMISSIONER DALTON LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF E AND F. SECOND. 
          MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON'S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO PROVE ITEMS E AND THREE E AND THREE F THERE WOULD BE THE SPECIAL USE PROVISIONS AND THE PLAN. SEE NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. DID IT AGAIN. THERE WE GO. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF MAY 8TH
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