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GOOD. EVENING AND WELCOME BACK TO THE MAIDS MEETING OF THE GARDEN PLANT COMMISSION. THIS IS
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OUR CUSTOM. WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE YOU'RE WELCOME[00:23:58]
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COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I'M GOING TO DEVIATE SLIGHTLY FROM THE NORM. I WOULD LIKE A SALT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. ON BEHALF OF THE INCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED.THIS PAST WEEKEND. IN EACH ONE OF US. CONSIDER THESE THINGS IN OUR LIVES. OUR FATHER. WE COME BEFORE YOU IN PRAYER. WE ASKED FOR YOUR HAND OF GRACE AND COMFORT. TO ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED THIS PAST WEEKEND. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN FROM US. WE ASKED YOU TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR FRIENDS. AS THEY ALL SUFFER AS WE ALL DO. WE ASKED FATHER DID YOU GUIDE US IN THESE TOUGH TIMES? HELP US FIND YOUR LOVE IN
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OUR LIVES. RATHER WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS COMMISSION. WE BLESS THE CITY. LET US DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR ALL OF THE CITIZENS AROUND US. THESE THINGS WE ASK IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME.AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. ALRIGHT IF ANYBODY CARES TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE SPEAKER CARDS THEY CAN BE FOUND IN THE HALLWAY THERE UP HERE BY THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY'S DESK, FILL IT OUT AND HAND IT IN, AND I WILL CALL YOUR NAME. AND ANYBODY SPEAKING IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MICROPHONE WHERE YOU NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SAY LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME. AFTER EVERYBODY'S SPOKEN, WE ALLOWED THE ACT TO COME BACK UP AND RESPOND TO ANY ISSUES BROUGHT UP IN THE TESTIMONY. AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
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INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. WE'LL START OUR MEETING WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE. I WILL READ THEM OUT. AND IF ANY COMMISSIONER OR AUDIENCE MEMBER WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE TONIGHT BECAUSE ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES. OF THE APRIL 24TH 2023 MEETING THAT YOU'RE ONLY CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. OKAY WE'VE GOT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND COMMISSIONER PARIS HERE SAYS AND GOING IN YET. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A TWO PARTER.[Items 2A & 2B]
CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION . IRAN HOBBS ARCHITECTURE AND INTERIOR DESIGN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS AMENDMENT FOR AN EXISTING FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE FACILITY AND PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 2960 MARKET STREET AND ITEM TO BE CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION RUN. HOBBS ARCHITECTURE, INTERIOR DESIGN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN. FOR FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE . USING EXPANSION. THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO AT 2960 MARKET STREET. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. CARE TO SAY ANYTHING OR OKAY? YEAH LET ME ASK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? WE SHOULD HAVE SAY ANYTHING IN THIS CASE COMMISSIONER. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, BARRING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I MOVE. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE ITEMS A AND B. OKAY UH, COMMISSIONER AUBIN MOVES TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE APPLICATION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I HEARD THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PAIRS AS TRYING TO DECIDE WHO I HEARD IT FIRST FROM ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS TO PROVE. IT'S UNANIMOUS. GREAT PRESENTATION, MR HOBBS. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. UM. THE NEXT ONE IS A[Items 2C & 2D]
TWO PARTER. BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE WILL WANT TO HAVE SEPARATE VOTES ON THE TWO ISSUES, BUT I WILL READ THEM TOGETHER CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION AT OIL LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH USE ON PROPERTIES OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED THE 6318 BROADWAY BOULEVARD ITEM 32, D. IS CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF AT WILL LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH USE. THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THE SAME ADDRESS 6318 BROADWAY AND I'VE GOT THREE CARDS FROM THE APPLICANTS. WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST. COME ON DOWN, OR IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TOGETHER, THAT'S FINE, TOO. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CHANNING LACKLAND. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR A QUALITY BRAND GROUP. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE OF A CHANCE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHO WE ARE AND WHAT OUR VISION FOR GROWTH IS FOR GARLAND, TEXAS. BEFORE I FORGET OTHERWISE[00:30:06]
REMINDED. NEED YOUR ADDRESS. PLEASE I'M SORRY. ABSOLUTELY IT'S 14 17. CREEK SIDE ONE WORD DRIVE. MHM THIS IS RICHARDSON, TEXAS. OKAY SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. SO WHO IS QUALITY BRAND GROUP QUALITY BRAND GROUP IS THE LARGEST DUNCAN DUNCAN DONUTS FRANCHISEE IN THE WEST REGION OF THE UNITED STATES AND ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE OVERALL SYSTEM.WE ALSO RECENTLY JUST ACQUIRED THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO DEVELOP 35 BUFFALO WHILE BEING SO LOCATIONS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX, SO WE'LL BE THE PREDOMINANT FRANCHISEE IN THE METROPLEX FOR THIS EXCITING NEW VERSION OF BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO , WHICH, AS WE NOTED EARLIER ARE YOU NOTED EARLIER AND THEN DISCUSSION IS MORE LIKE A WING STOP. IT'S AN OFF PREMISES, DINING EXPERIENCE AND NOT A FULL SERVICE. SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. AND QUALITY BRAND GROUP IS HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE. AND FRANCHISE. OPERATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT. OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM. TOGETHER AND INDIVIDUALLY, EACH ONE OF THEM HAS 20 TO 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE OPERATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF FRANCHISE NETWORKS, INCLUDING BRANDS LIKE DUNCAN BLOCKBUSTER. UM BOSTON MARKETS. PALM BEACH TAN, SO THEY'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW BOTH OF OUR BRANDS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. SO OUR MISSION IS TO DELIVER QUALITY PRODUCTS. WITH BRANDS THAT CONSUMERS LOVE IN A WAY THAT CONVENIENTLY FITS INTO THEIR EVERYDAY ROUTINE. SO OUR BRAND'S APPEAL TO A VERY WIDE AUDIENCE. THEY THEY. APPEAL TO A WIDE RANGE OF SOCIOECONOMIC AND CULTURAL BACKGROUNDS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY GARLAND HAS BEEN SUCH A TARGET AREA FOR US OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE'VE JUST REALLY STRUGGLED TO FIND A SITE THAT WE FELT FELT WOULD WORK WITHIN THE ECONOMIC PARAMETERS THAT WE ALSO NEED TO STAY WITHIN AS WELL. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE FINALLY FOUND THAT SITE. IT'S ONE OF ITS THE SECOND ONE THAT WE WILL HAVE OPENED FROM A DUNCAN PERSPECTIVE IN GARLAND. WE HAVE ONE EXISTING LOCATION AT JUPITER ROAD AND MILLER ROAD. IT'S A IT'S A NONTRADITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH ONLY IN CAP THAT'S PART OF RICKY ROCKETS. OVERALL OUR DESIRE, THOUGH LONG TERM DESIRE IS TO OPEN AS MANY AS FIVE LOCATIONS FOR EACH BRANDS IN THE IN IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. THAT'S OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN OUR STRATEGIC VISION. EACH OF THOSE WOULD EMPLOY 25 EMPLOYEES. AND WOULD OBVIOUSLY SERVE AS AN ADDITIONAL TAX. BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES WILL COME IN THE FORM OF REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE MATURE NATURE OF GARLAND AND THE FEWER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO NEW GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. SO WE'VE ALREADY SEEN PICTURES OF THE EXISTING ARE THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THIS SITE. THIS THIS RESTAURANT I KNOW HAS SAT VACANT FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS AT THIS POINT, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO IMPROVE. THE LOOK OF THIS PARTICULAR PART OF GARLAND FOR YOU. WE WERE DISAPPOINTED TO LEARN THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED A DENIAL OF OUR APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT THEY WERE GRACIOUS TO MEET WITH US ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND DISCUSS THE REASONS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
MOST OF WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED IN AN UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IN A FEW MINUTES. I REQUEST FOR VARIANCES FOR THE DRIVE. THRU STACKING IN THE PARKING REMAIN. AND THESE VARIANCES ARE CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS. IT HASN'T BEEN AN EASY SITE TO PURSUE. WE'VE BEEN PURSUING IT FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW. WE ARE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND ARE UNDER A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE AT THIS POINT. FOR CLOSING OR WALKING AWAY FROM THE FROM THE OPPORTUNITY. HENCE WHY WE WENT IN FOR THE 30 DAY EXPEDITED REVIEW. OUR HOPE TODAY IS THAT ARE DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO THE SITE AND ARE GENUINE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE WHY BEHIND THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS WILL BE MET WITH AN EQUAL LEVEL OF
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COMMITMENT TO CONSIDER. HOW ARE SPECIFIC USES, WHICH I'LL GO INTO MORE IN A BIT. AND OUR INNOVATIVE DESIGN DIFFER. FROM THE TYPICAL 2000 SQUARE FOOT. DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT. SPACE.WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO INVITE SORRY, TRAVIS. TRAVIS WELL, I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF. NO WORRIES. UM THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS TRAVIS BOUQUET WITHOUT WELL, UM 5041 CONNORS DRIVE. FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS. UM AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT DOING WORK, CIVIL ENGINEERING WORK AND SIGNED FOR QUALITY BRANDS. UM AS CHENEY ALREADY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECAUSE OF WE HAD TO COME INTO THIS 30 DAY KIND OF SHOT CLOCKS. THE MIDDLE WAS ONLY OPTION SO NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE WANTED TO GO THROUGH A LET'S SUBMIT. LET'S GO TALK AGAIN AND THEN MAKE SOME REVISIONS COME BACK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WHICH I'VE DONE SEVERAL WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND BEFORE, UM, USING THAT MANNER, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF REAL ESTATE, WE HAD TO GO THIS ROUTE. UM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AS FAR AS STAFF COMMENTS. UM, WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THEM THAT WE COULD SO FAR. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FURTHER. WHICH I UNDERSTANDING THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT CODE. VARIANTS THAT WE WOULD JUST NEED APPLY WITH STAFF, AND THAT'S WHAT NECESSARILY BE A CONDITION FOR WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS THE PARKING, WHICH WILL ALSO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL. WE UNDERSTOOD THAT FROM CONVERSATION WITH STAFF WOULD BE PART OF THE CONDITION OF THE S U P APPROVAL THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT LISTED WITH THE SCP. I KNOW WE'LL NEED TO GET AUTHORIZATION ON THAT. THAT THOUGHT ANYWAY. UM ANYWAY, SO WE'VE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL. UM UH, TREES. WE'VE UPDATED OUR SITE PLAN BASED ON ALL THE COMMENTS YOU SAW ON THERE, AND DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. WE WERE DIRECTED TO NOT SUBMIT ANYTHING REVISIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING THE PACKAGE TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE. SO WE'VE ALREADY MADE ALL THE REVISIONS COORDINATED WITH STAFF . THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, BECAUSE THEY THEY TOLD US NOT TO SUBMIT YET AND MAKE THIS THE MIDDLE WITH COUNCIL. UM WAS THE DIRECTION WE GOT. SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE'VE WE'VE BEEN REALLY LIGHTER FEET AND REACTING AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE KIND OF SOUND LIKE WE WEREN'T KINDA LISTENING TO WHAT STAFF TELLING US BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN THAT VERY MUCH CONSIDERATION. UM AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT TO KIND OF TOUCH ON. I KNOW CHENEY'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE MAIN ONES THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE UM, THE PARKING SO I APPRECIATE I'LL BE HERE TOO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE. SO IN THE PRE MEETING, BUT . THE WORRY ABOUT CONGESTION WAS SHARED, AND IT'S ONE THAT WE WENT INTO THE SITE. HMM KNOWING AND THINKING ABOUT. POST PANDEMIC AND ALSO JUST CHANGING CONSUMER PREFERENCES HAVE REALLY PUSHED DESIGN INNOVATION IN THE QSR INDUSTRY, SPECIFICALLY UM INSPIRE BRANDS AND QUALITY BRAND GROUP TOGETHER. I'VE BEEN KIND OF LEADING A CHARGE TO, UM. LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL AS DESIGN ELEMENTS TO DRIVE SPEED OF SERVICE THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE PARTICULARLY PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON IS UM DIGITAL SALES SO ONLINE MOBILE SALES WHERE PEOPLE PLACE THEIR ORDERS AHEAD ON AN APP AND THEN THE ORDER'S READY WHEN THEY ARRIVE TO PICK IT UP, AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO PICK IT UP THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH OR THEY HAD THE OPTION TO WALK IN AND PICK IT UP FROM A CUBBY WHERE IT'S WAITING FOR THEM. TO PICK IT UP. SO THEIR QB G SPECIFIC USES AND THE PROPOSED DESIGN FOR BROADWAY DIFFER, AS I SAID FROM A TYPICAL FAST FOOD RESTAURANT ONE. BOTH BRANDS ARE OFF PREMISE. DINING, THERE'S NO SEATING. IN EITHER BRAND.
THERE'S FOUR SEATS IN DUNCAN SIMPLY TO HAVE A PLACE FOR CONSUMERS TO SIT IF THEY CHOOSE TO WALK IN AND ORDER FROM AN INDOOR KIOSK. UM THE MOBILE APP ORDERING THAT I JUST MENTIONED AND THIRD PARTY DELIVERY. IT'S A HUGE PART OF OUR SALES DRIVE THAT FITS WITH THAT CONSUMER THAT NEW CONSUMER EXPECTATION FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO USE US THAT FIT IN WITH THEIR DEFINITION OF CONVENIENCE. WE'LL HAVE CURBSIDE DELIVERY HERE. SO THE PARKING ALONG THE DRIVE THRU SIDE OF THE BUILDING CAN BE UTILIZED FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T PLACE THERE. UM ORDER EARLY OR
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I'M SORRY THAT DO PLACE THEIR ORDER EARLY AND DON'T WANT TO SIT IN A DRIVE THRU LANE. PRE DRIVE THRU ORDER THEY CAN PULL AROUND, PULL INTO A PARKING SPACE AND HAVE THE ORDER BROUGHT OUT TO THEM TO THE CAR. UM, DIGITAL MENU BOARDS WITH WHICH INCREASED THE TIME THAT PEOPLE USE OUR DECREASED THE TIME THAT PEOPLE PLACE THEIR ORDERS LYING BUSTER TABLETS LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AT CHICK FIL A IF THE DRIVE THRU STACK DOES START TO GET A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THEY CAN TAKE ORDERS EARLIER, SO WE'VE EMPLOYING A LOT OF DESIGN ELEMENTS AND TECHNOLOGY TO REALLY DRIVE THAT SPEED OF SERVICE, WHICH IS NOT ONLY CRITICAL TO MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS SALES WHITES AS A BRAND, SO IT'S A MAJOR FOCUS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I WANT THAT TO YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER IS THAT THESE TWO CONCEPTS? DUNCAN AND BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO OPERATE ON ALMOST POLAR OPPOSITE PEAK PERIODS. SO DUNCAN BRANDS DOES 70% PLUS OF ITS BUSINESS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF FIVE A.M. AND 10 A.M. AND BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO IS FLIPPED. THEY DO 70% OF THEIR BUSINESS BETWEEN SIX AND 10, AND THAT'S THE LOWEST POINT OF ACTIVITY AT THE DUNCAN SO THEY TRULY ARE OPPOSITE DAY PARTS. SO THIS IS A BIT OF AN EYESORE, BUT FROM A FROM A DRIVE THRU STACKING DESIGN PERSPECTIVE WHAT THE INDUSTRY HAS LEARNED AND DISCOVERED. AND WHAT DUNCAN HAS BEEN A LEADING LEADING VOICE ON. IS THAT HOW YOU DEFINE THE DESIGN THE DRIVE THRU STACK? CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THAT KEEPS THE LINE MOVING THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU AND PREVENTS THE STACKING BEHIND. THE ORDER POINT INTO THE DRIVE LANE. UM THE FRONT LOADED STACKING THAT YOU SEE ON THIS. THIS DIAGRAM. YOU SEE THE GARLAND DRIVE THROUGH CODE REPRESENTED ON THE LEFT IF YOU'RE FACING IT, AND ARE PROPOSED PLAN ON THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR US TO MEET THE CURRENT GARLAND CODE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THE MENU BOARD ON THE THIRD CAR TO THE LEFT. WHAT THIS DOES IS. IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF TIME OUR OPERATIONS TEAM HAS TO WORK ON ORDERS. SO FROM THE FRONT LOADING STACKING PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE ARE ASKING FOR WE'RE ACTUALLY MEANING THE SEVEN CAR STACK REQUIREMENT. IT'S JUST WHERE WE PUT THE MANY ORDER BOARD. AND THE REASON WHY IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE FIVE CARS BETWEEN THE PICK UP WINDOW AND THE MENU BOARD IS TO GIVE OUR OUR STAFF THE ABILITY TO WORK ON FIVE ORDERS AT A TIME VERSUS TWO ORDERS OF THE TIME. WE'RE ABLE TO DEPLOY LABOR TO MORE EFFICIENTLY COMPLETE ORDERS AND KEEP THE CONSISTENT FLOW OF THE DRIVE THRU GOING JUST THIS ONE CHANGE. IF YOU'RE ASSUMING A DRIVE TIME OF 120 SECONDS PRODUCES A 40% INCREASE IN OPERATION EFFICIENCY DRIVING SPEED. UM. AND IN TERMS OF DEAFNESS, DUNCAN AND BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO OPERATING AN OPPOSITE. PEAK TIMES. IT SPEAKS TO THE PARKING CONCERN THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE OFF PREMISE.NATURE ONCE AGAIN. YOU'RE NOT HAVING PEOPLE WALK IN AND STAY UM, REDUCES THE OVERALL NEED FOR PARKING. AND SECONDLY, BOTH BUSINESSES AREN'T GOING TO BE OPEN AND WE'LL BE OPEN AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THEY WON'T BE PEAKING AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE PARKING FIELD AND AT SOME OF OUR OTHER LOCATIONS. WE'RE NOT SEEING THOSE LEVELS OF PARKS BEING USED. SO WITH THOSE THINGS IN MIND, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFFS FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULES TO MEET WITH US SEVERAL TIMES ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND THE DIALOGUE. I WANT TO THANK YOU THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE PROPOSAL AND EDUCATE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WHY, BEHIND THE SPECIFICS OF OUR DESIGN. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD A LONG LASTING
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RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND. ALREADY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. ANY ANY QUESTIONS YET? YOU SEE? NONE AT THE MOMENT. OKAY, THERE WE GO. COMMISSIONER PAIRS, IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE FORMULATING THEIR MINDS. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR TAKING US THROUGH SOME OF THE UPDATES ONE OF THE ONES THAT I WANTED TO BE A BIT MORE CLEAR ABOUT. WELL, FIRST THANK YOU FOR ADDITIONAL CLARITY THAT IT IS NOT THE TRADITIONAL SIT DOWN. UM BUT THE PREMISE OF IT BEING, UM , A, UH, NOT A OFF PREMISE DINING EXPERIENCES THAT SOME OF YOUR WORD CHOICES IS WHAT SO IT'S GOOD TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A DRIVE THROUGH AND THEN THE OPERATING HOURS OF THE EXPECTATION OF INCREASE IN, UM, TRAFFIC VERSUS THE DUNCAN DUNCAN DONUTS VERSUS THE ACTUAL BUFFALO WILD WINGS, WHERE WE FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE MOST OF THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF, UM I THINK YOU ALL HAVE MENTIONED THAT THERE IS AN UPDATE TO WHAT WE'VE ORIGINALLY SEEN AS SOME OF THE PARKING DEVIATION AND, UM AND SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WE WAS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SHARING IN TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN. I'M SORRY IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE STATING THE DIFFERENCES.ARE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE TO THAT? OR WHERE IS THE UPDATE? THIS IS THE THIS IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN THAT INCORPORATE THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW THE INCORPORATES ALL OF THE ADDRESSES. ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE STAFF. ASIDE FROM THE DRIVE THRU STACKING CONFIGURATION AND THE PARKING THOSE ARE THE TWO REMAINING. ITEMS THAT WE WOULD NEED A VARIANCE ON FOR EVEN US TO BE CAREFUL, COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SITE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF TWO CAR STACK. SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES OUR ABILITY TO PUSH CARS THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH. SURE. SO UM, THIS SPECIFIC COMMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER WAS OUR EXIT ONTO AH! BROADWAY AWAIT. YEAH. BROADWAY. SORRY. UM WAS ADDING MORE OF A CHANCE FOR ON THAT EXIT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DON'T PROMOTE A RIGHT TURN IN OFF OF BROADWAY ON THAT NORTHERN DRIVEWAY, SO WE'VE MADE THIS ONE MORE. IT'S GOT MORE OF A CHANCE FOR THAT MARK UPS. THE OTHER ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS WAS LANDSCAPING WANTED, UH, YOU KNOW, KDP TREES ON BOTH ENDS OF THAT SOUTHERN PARKING ROW. WE'VE CHANGED THIS TO WHERE WE'VE ADDED A LANDSCAPED AREA ON THAT.
EAST SIDE AND THEN WE'VE GOT ROOM TO DO THAT EXTRA TREE ON THE ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE. UM TRYING TO THINK. SO WE'RE THERE . IF I CAN HELP THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS BEEN CORRECTED. AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS BEEN CORRECTED. YES, SORRY. AND, UH, REFUSE AND CLOSURES NOW FULL MASONRY WITH THE SITE MASONRY WITH A SIDE DOOR. YES SORRY. THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING, AND ANY APPROVAL WOULD NOT BE AN APPROVAL OF SIGNAGE. SO YOU'RE TAKING THE SIGNAGE OFFER? CALCULATING IT OUT. WE WE'VE TALKED TO, UH, BUILDING AND WERE ABLE TO RESURFACE THE EXISTING SIGNAGE OUT THERE BASED ON CONVERSATION FOR THEM. THAT'S ON THE POLE SIGN. THAT'S ON THE PULSE SIDE, AND WE'VE ADDED A NOTE. I BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THIS OR NOT. BUT THERE'S A NOTE THAT SAYS RESURFACED THAT OKAY, AND THEN ALL OTHER SIGNAGE YOU WANT TO COMPLY? YES, ASPHALT NOTE. THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL CONCRETE. NOW WE'VE ALL CHANGED.
WE HAVE CHANGED ALL THAT I HAD IT LISTED OUT PERFECT. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING OFF MEMORY. SO I WAS JUST LIKE, YEAH. YOU HAD ASPHALT NOTE ON THE ORIGINAL ONLY. YEAH, WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ASPHALT SINCE THE MALL SO ALRIGHT? YEAH I HAD A DESIGNER THAT IS DOING A LOT OF WORK DOWN IN FLORIDA AND THEY USED ASPHALT A LOT DOWN THERE, SO THEY JUST AUTOMATICALLY WAS LIKE, NO, NO, NO, YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR CLEVER. SO THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE STACKING ONLY. AND THE PARKING THERE'S TWO UM AND THE STACKING. I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A LIKE A DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENT THAT WE NEED TO APPLY FOR, LIKE A VARIANCE OR JUST GET STAFF APPROVAL ON HOW WE'RE SHOWING THAT THE STACKING BUT THE PARKING IS THEY ZONING RELATED ONE THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE SCP.
UM SO YEAH, MR CHAIRMAN, THE STARTING WITH THE STACKING ISSUE THAT'S A TECHNICAL STANDARDS MANUAL REQUIREMENT AND IS REVIEWED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR. WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT. ANY VARIANCES FROM THAT, UM, SO FAR , HE AND HIS STAFF HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE STACKING AND ANY ISSUING ANY VARIANCE FROM THAT, SO, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MR LUKE. HE AND HIS
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TEAM ON THAT, UM AS FOR THE PARKING AND S U P, UH, THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT ON THAT, UM HOWEVER, AS FAR AS CONDITION IN AN S U P, HOWEVER, THAT IS SUBJECT TO STAFF REVIEW AND THEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND THAT COMES WITH US, MISS AHMED SAID. EARLIER PARKING STUDY OF SORTS WHERE WE, UM, WHERE IT'S. IT'S SHOWN THROUGH DATA, THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS, UM THAT THAT THE SHORTAGE OF PARKING WOULD WORK WITH THIS PLAN, SO WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW THAT.THAT'S FAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN AND COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, SO I JUST WANT TO BE THANK YOU GUYS SAID THIS EARLIER REGISTER. WANT TO BE CLEAR? THE . THE CURRENT STACKING REQUIREMENT UNDER THE G D. C IS FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN VEHICLES.
AND SO AND YOU CAN DO THE SEVEN VEHICLES. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW THAT HOW YOU CAN WE CAN HOW WE CONFIGURE THAT OR HOW WE WHERE WE PUT BASICALLY WHERE WE PUT THE MENU BOARD SO THE G D. C IS. FIVE BEFORE THE MENU BOARD IN TWO AFTER AND YOU ALL WANT TO DO TO BEFORE THE MENU BOARD AND FIVE AFTER IS THAT MY ROUGH? I MEAN, I'M MATH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT MY STRONG SUIT. SO AFTER SO I BETWEEN THE PICK UP WINDOW IN THE ORDER POINT. WE WOULD LIKE FIVE. WITH TWO BEHIND OR YOU KNOW. WE DON'T WE'RE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TWO BEHIND BECAUSE WE'RE WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CARS THROUGH. I THINK ON THE EXHIBIT, I SHOWED YOU UM ACTUALLY, I SEE SEVEN VEHICLES, ALTHOUGH I THINK IN THE ONE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED WITH THE PACKET, IT SHOWED SIX VEHICLES, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT IF I PRETEND VEHICLES GOT SHORTER OR FAR LINE GOT LONGER. SOMEBODY THE ORIGINAL ONE DIDN'T HAVE. THE CAR WASN'T LOCATED AT THE PICK UP WINDOW.
IT WAS FURTHER TO THE RIGHT SO WHEN WE WERE SHOWING THAT EARLIER WERE JUST LIKE, OH, NO, THAT WAS LIKE, OOPS, WE'VE ACTUALLY BETTER DRAW THIS SUPPOSED WE MAKE OUR PRETEND CARDS FIT. AND I THINK I THINK AND I DON'T I STILL ALLOWED TO SPEAK. OKAY I DIDN'T WANT TO OPEN UP THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I FAILED TO MENTION ON THE SLIDE, SO IT'S THE SEVEN CARS IN 21 MINUTES AND THE SEVEN CARS AND 14 MINUTES AT THE TOP IS KIND OF THAT 40% EFFICIENCY THAT WE GAIN THROUGH HAVING THE STACK LONGER BETWEEN THE WINDOW AND THE AND THE DRIVE. THRU ORDER POINT, UM SO WHEN YOU DO THE MATH. OUR PLAN WOULD. THEORETICALLY PUSH SEVEN CARS EVERY 14 MINUTES. THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, IT WOULD JUST BE A CONTINUOUS FLOW. THE CODE PLAN WOULD BE CLOSER TO 21 MINUTES TO GET SEVEN CARS THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH LOOKING AT ROUGHLY. I MEAN AGAIN. MATH, NOT MY STRONG SUIT MINE EITHER. 21 CARS AN HOUR VERSUS THAT'S NOT EVEN AN HOUR THAT'S HAD AN HOUR IF HE HAD 16 21 CARS ON THE GARLAND CODE, 21 CARDS WOULD TAKE 63 MINUTES ON THE OTHER ONE. YOU COULD DO 28 CARS IN UNDER 60 MINUTES, SO THERE IS OKAY, JUST SPEAKS TO THAT CONTINUOUS FLOW. IF THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET WITH THAT THE OTHER THING ON THE PARKING FRONT IS, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO USE IN TERMS OF HOW ONE OF THE STAFF'S COMMENTS. I BELIEVE WHEN WE WERE JUST MEETING WITH THEM. WAS THEY WERE CONCERNED THE REASON FOR THE CODE. BEING FOR CARS BEHIND THE MENU ORDER POINT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS PARTIALLY TO PREVENT CARS FROM BACKING UP INTO A DRIVE THROUGH OUR DR LANE. AND CAUSING CONGESTION, LIKE WHERE PEOPLE ARE PULLING OUT OF PARKING, AND, UM IT'S VERY EASY FOR US TO DESIGNATE EMPLOYEE PARKING TO BE UP IN THAT. PLAN UPPER RIGHT CORNER WHERE CARS THAT WOULDN'T BE BACKING IN AND OUT DURING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA OF THE PLAN, SO IN TERMS OF VEHICLE CONGESTION, EVEN IF WE WERE TO SPELL OUT WHICH WE DON'T THAT'S WHY OUR BRAND REQUIREMENTS INSPIRE BRANDS REQUIRES FIVE CARS. BETWEEN THE ORDER POINT IN THE DRIVE THROUGH MANY BOARD, UM IT'S DESIGNED TO KEEP THAT FLOW GOING SO THAT YOU DON'T CAUSE THAT CONGESTION. UM AND THE BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO. THEY DO NOT USE THE DRIVE THRU AT ALL, OR IS THIS YOUR SHARED DRIVE THROUGH? NOT USE THE DRIVE THROUGH. IT IS ALL TALKIN SERVICE WALKING. CONSUMERS WILL
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HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS FOR BUFFALO. WILD WINGS GO THEY CAN ORDER AHEAD ON A MOBILE APP AND WALK IN TO PICK UP THEIR ORDER THAT'S WAITING FOR THEM IN A SERIES OF CUBBIES. THEY CAN WALK IN AND PLACE AN ORDER IN PERSON AT A AT THE COUNTER. AND THEY CAN PLACE AN ORDER ON KIOSK. SO IN IN THE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WING STOP WITHOUT SEATING THAT THAT'S VERY MUCH. WHAT THIS BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO. THIS PARTICULAR ONE WOULD BE LIKE, OKAY, SO THERE'S NO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A CADRE OF DELIVERY DRIVERS. I MEAN, I ASSUME WE'LL PROBABLY END UP ON UBER EACH OR WHATEVER THIRD PARTY THIRD PARTY DELIVERY. OKAY UM AND I GUESS FOR STAFF THAN MR GARIN, DO WE HAVE ANY RESPONSE FROM TRANSPORTATION ON THE STEP, YOU KNOW? UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE FROM TRANSPORTATION HERE. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVEN CARS, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC REASON OTHER THAN THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THE OUR DIVIDING THE LOAF. WELL, IT IT'S MORE THAN THAT, OF COURSE, AND THE ASSESSMENT IS CORRECT ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT ANY CARS SPILLING OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS A TWO WAY DRIVEWAY. THERE'S PARKING THERE, SO THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT ANY SPILLOVER THAT MAY TAKE PLACE THERE, BUT ONE UM, OBSERVATION THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF DID TAKE A BRIEF LOOK AT THIS. WE RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON, OF COURSE, AND THE WAY THE STACKING SPACES ARE ARE SHOWN THE SPACES THEMSELVES OR, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE RECTANGULAR SPACES AROUND EACH VEHICLE, THEY'RE OVERLAPPING. AND IN ORDER TO APPEAR TO MAKE THE SEVEN SPACES FIT. SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT TRANSPORTATION NOTICED THAT THAT TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE HOW THEY HOW IT'S. IT'S MEASURED. YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO NOT OVERLAP, SO IT'S JUST, UM ONE MORE THING OR JUST KIND OF ANOTHER, UM ITEM REGARDING THE STACKING THAT JUST TRANSPORTATION AND THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND DISCUSS FURTHER SO. OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. DALTON, COMMISSIONER ROSE THANK YOU.YOU'VE GOT IDENTIFYING FOR PARKING PLACES FOR EMPLOYEES HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE IN THESE TWO BUSINESSES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. DO YOU REMEMBER? DO YOU REMEMBER? FIVE JUST 75 TO 7 EMPLOYEES AND DUNCAN AND THE PEAK HOURS DIDN'T. WHAT ABOUT OFF PEAK? AND WHAT ABOUT LESS? IT GOES DOWN FROM THERE, SO OKAY , LET'S TAKE BOTH BUSINESSES TOGETHER. IT'S 12 KNOWN. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK WILL BE IN THE BUILDING TO DUNCAN EMPLOYEES AND PROBABLY FIVE BUFFALO WILD WINGS? I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY THAT BUT SEVEN THERE WILL BE 5 TO 7 EMPLOYEES BETWEEN BOTH BRANDS WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING TOGETHER. WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDING AT ANY GIVEN TIME? HAVE TO? I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT AN OPERATION THIS PERSON OR, YOU KNOW, FOUR PARKING SPACES. YOU'VE GOT 10 EMPLOYEES. WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. THAT JUST TOOK UP HALF THE PARKING THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE ENTIRE FACILITY. TO JUST HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE PARKING SPACES ALONG THIS SIDE, TOO. BUT IF YOU HAD 10 PARKING PLACES USED, YOU'VE ONLY GOT 17 TOTAL. WE HAVE 17 TOTAL. WE HAVE 17 TOTAL OF 10. PEOPLE USE THEM WOULD HAVE SEVEN SPACES. YEAH LEFT, WHICH WE FIND WOULD BE BASED ON HOW PEOPLE ARE USING US ANOTHER LOCATIONS. AMPLE PARKING, OKAY? CAN A PERSON THAT GOES INTO THE BUFFALO WILD WINGS GO BE ABLE TO GO OVER AND GET A DONUT. THEY CAN. THEY COULD WALK OVER AND ORDER IN THE LOBBY CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO MHM. OKAY, MAYBE THEY WANT TO ORDER SOME COFFEE COFFEE OR THEIR DESSERT, RIGHT? JUST SOMETHING TO BUY YOUR WAITING. AH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SURE.
COMMISSIONER ROSE IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY? THAT. YOU MAY CONVERT THIS TO WHERE THEY CAN SIT. IN THE FACILITY AND EAT I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THAT. UM THE BUILDING SIZES SMALL AND THE NATURE OF THE TRADE AREAS SUCH THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'D GET A LOT OF BUSINESS DOING THAT ARE DYING IN PERCENTAGE FOR DUNCAN IS 20% OR LESS, USUALLY CLOSER TO 15. UM WE HAVE A LOT OF DRIVE THROUGH ONLY DUNCAN LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE PARTICULARLY POST PANDEMIC WHEN CONSUMERS STARTED CHANGING THEIR BEHAVIORS ON THE BUFFALO WILD WINGS SIDE.
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AH IT'S DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY NOT TO ENCOURAGE. SEATING. EVEN IN THE ONES THAT HAVE SEATS.THEY'RE VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF SEATS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE IN ROLL IT THAT WAS MENTIONED.
WE'LL ONLY HAVE EIGHT. EIGHT SEATS IN IT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LARGE SPACE. MHM. ALREADY AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH YOU HAVE SOMETHING. OKAY JUST A LITTLE MORE. TWO CENTS, I GUESS, UM HMM. YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE DOING A LOT OF Q SRS THROUGH MY CAREER, AND YOU KNOW , UM, FROM A DRIVE THRU PERSPECTIVE, WE DO HAVE OPERATORS THAT THE DRIVE THRU WILL WORK FOR THEM. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME CODE THAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH. AND WE PLAN ON DOING THAT STUDY AND SUBMITTING THAT. UM BUT JUST GENERALLY, I WANT TO SAY LIKE ANY OTHER CASE LIKE KFC S OR EVEN SOME OF THE LIKE THE STARBUCKS. THE OTHER COFFEE SHOP DOES NOT TO BE MENTIONED. UM BUT THOSE TYPES AND SALAD AND GOES EVEN BECAUSE THERE'S A SMALL SITE. UM I DO. A BUNCH OF SALAD GOES AND THEY REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, TWO LANE DRIVE THROUGHS AND IT JUST SPACE HEATERS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SMALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT. UM I EVENTUALLY GUESS THERE'S NOT ANOTHER FAST FOOD THAT COULD FIT ON THIS PROPERTY. I WOULD THINK ANYBODY THAT CAME IN IS GOING TO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE. BUT FROM OUR OPERATIONS SIDE, WE CAN MAKE THE SEVEN WORK AND I THINK THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE. I JUST WANT TO LEAST MENTION THAT I'M SURE A LOT. A LOT OF THESE PARKING STUDIES THAT COME THROUGH. THEY'RE ACTUALLY STUDYING EXISTING FACILITIES ARE THE SAME BRAND AND LETTING LETTING US KNOW HOW MUCH PARKING THEY ACTUALLY USING . AT THE SAME TIME YOU ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF PARKING, YOU MAY WANT TO ADDRESS THE STACKING AND HOW THAT'S WORKING AT YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES. ALRIGHTY UM , THOSE ARE THE WELL, I'VE GOT ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD IS LISA BHASKER WAS OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT SO. BUT I STILL GOTTA ASK MY DEVELOPMENT, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND SHE WAS JUST HERE TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF THERE WERE ANY THAT SHE NEEDED TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY, THANK YOU. WE'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO WHICH IS A DRESS THIS CASE. I WANT TO DOUBLE. I SEE NONE. UH, SO COMMISSIONER PARIS. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I HAVE JUST ONE MORE. UM IT ISN'T. IT'S A I FORGOT TO BRING IT UP EARLIER, AND I THINK , UH, YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT AND IN THE LAYOUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER. UM WELL, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION THIS WAY. THE WAY THE PARKING AND THE DRIVE THRU IS FLOWING THAT THAT, UM THAT SPACE WILL NOT BLEED IN. I'LL ASK IT THIS WAY. A VEHICLE IS IN THE DRIVE. THRU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CROSS OVER INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY . IT'S A CAR WASH BEHIND IT RIGHT. IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO INTO THAT PROPERTY. THE WAY THE SITE PLAN IS DEVELOPED A CORRECT SO WE DO HAVE CROSS ACCESS WITH THANK YOU FOR THE WORD CHOICE. OKAY CROSS ACCESS DEVELOPMENT THING. CROSS ACCESS WITH THE PROPERTY BEHIND US AND BESIDE US, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY EASEMENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE I'M GOING TO FORGET THE SIDE ROADS NAME. GOT THREE. YES BACK TO GUTHRIE AND THE LIGHT AS WELL. SO PART OF PART OF OUR DESIGN RIGHT OR WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS SITE WORK FOR US IS TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR CONSUMERS TO CIRCLE THE ENTIRE BUILDING IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND GO BACK TO THE SIDE STREET. TO ACCESS THE LIGHT SO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN. WE DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT THE DRIVE THRU LANE TO STACK UP. FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO EXIT EITHER RIGHT. IT'S A RIGHT ONLY EXIT HERE, SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. BUT SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO GO TURNED SOUTH. ON BELTLINE BECAUSE THERE'S I MEAN SORRY BROADWAY BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC HEADING SOUTH AS WELL CAN MAKE THEIR WAY BACK TO GUTHRIE TO THE LIGHT AND SAFELY TURN LEFT OUT OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, YOU CAN. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO A TRAFFIC SO YOU CAN GET. THE DRIVE THRU WOULDN'T PREVENT CARS FROM MOVING THROUGH THE BACK PROPERTY IN THE SIDE PROPERTY. MY ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION? SURE SOMEONE ELSE'S MIND IN MY THUMBS CANCELED THEM. SO WHO WHO ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROMPTLY TURNING AROUND RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO
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THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. I HEARD YOU STATE THAT YOU HAD BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH PLANNING AS WELL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAME. I PRESUME BEFORE THE PLANNING PORTION, RIGHT? YES ACTUALLY THE PLANNING? YES BEFORE WE SPOKE WITH PLANNING, WE'VE KIND OF IT WAS KIND OF SIMULTANEOUS, SO WHEN WE MET WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, A CO CO, UM WE WERE MEETING NOT WE DIDN'T MEET WITH HER SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS SITE . WE MET WITH HER MORE TO DISCUSS THE OVERALL OPPORTUNITY IN GARLAND FOR US. WE LIKE TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CITY AND JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE AREAS OF REDEVELOPMENT ARE OCCURRING AND WE REALLY DO LIKE TO TRY TO BECOME INGRAINED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING, LIKE WHAT'S PLANNED AND WHAT AREAS SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WITH TACO WAS TO DISCUSS OUR BROADER VISION FOR GROWTH AND GARLAND MHM. THANK YOU. UM I'VE GOT SOME KIND OF, I GUESS FOR BOTH STAFF AND Y'ALL AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS WITH ANY OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND IF ANYTHING'S AVAILABLE, BUT WOULD A MUTUAL PARKING AGREEMENT TO ADD MAYBE FIVE OR MORE PARKING SPACES WITH THE SURROUNDING LOTS ? SINCE THERE IS ALL THE CROSS EXCESS BE VIABLE TO TRAFFIC? DO YOU THINK AND AGAIN I CAN'T DEVELOPMENT EXPERT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT RELATIONSHIPS ARE, IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. FROM A SHEER PARKING STANDPOINT, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. IT'S NOT NOT ENTIRELY UNCOMMON PARKING. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL IF I'M CORRECT, OR AT LEAST IN THE OLD SURE FROM A PARKING SHORTAGE STANDPOINT, IT CAN BE AT LEAST FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE ZONING CASE IT COULD BE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER PARKING DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THEN ULTIMATELY, PART OF THE SCP CONDITIONS ALREADY. MAY I ASK WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD BE TO WOULD WE NEED? TO SUPPLY A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY PRIOR TO COUNCIL. YES MA'AM. OKAY SOMETHING, AND, UH, I JUST GOT FROM MR GARIN AT JUNE. 6TH IS YOUR MOST LIKELY DATE TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL CIVIC GIVES YOU A LITTLE UNDER FOUR WEEKS TO BRING ALL THIS TOGETHER, AND YOU SEEM CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET WITHSTAND. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE OUR CONTRACTS OUR LAST EXTENSION ON OUR CONTRACT IS SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE COUNCIL MEETING IF WE DON'T GET APPROVAL WILL WALK AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY AND YOU DO UNRSTAND WHERE RECOMMENDING BODY ONLY OKAY? YES COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY YES, I DO. UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SINCE WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER PARIS. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HARRIS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER UM PARIS, NOT HARRIS. GET IT ALL THE TIME. TOYED BOAT TOY BOAT? YEAH AND THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSION HOBBY. AND THAT PASSAGE ENORMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE. COMMISSIONER PARIS IF YOU CARE TO GO AHEAD. I GUESS A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE OF FEEDBACK FROM HORSE, MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE.LAND USES MEETING THE LAND USED AS FAR AS THE THEN. CONDITIONS IS THE IS THE STACK E. AND THE PARKING AND SO FROM A STACKING PERSPECTIVE. WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. AS THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THEM ON THEIR ON THEIR THEIR GUIDANCE. OKAY AND THEN FROM A. PARKING THE STUDY THAT WOULD NEED TO COME AND PLAY ON THE PARKING COMPONENT OF IT. AND SO, UM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE THOUGHTS OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL.OF FOLKS ON CONCERNS WITH AND APPROVAL FOR THE LAND USE, BUT THEN CONDITIONS AROUND THE STACKING IN THE PARKING WITH TRANSPORTATIONS FEEDBACK. AND WITH THE PARKING STUDY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO HELP. UM, GIVE A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE S U P SO I'M OPENING UP FOR CONSIDERATION ON THAT PROPOSAL. IT'S NOT IN DETAIL YET, BUT I WANT TO HEAR FEEDBACK FIRST BEFORE I PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION TO COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONED DALTON THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. I. I SHARE. UH, SOME HAZARD HESITANCY AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR
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APPLICATION. UH BUT I HEARD IN COMMISSIONER ALBANS. UH COMMENTS AND INCONSISTENCY WITH THE GDC AS IT RELATES TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND WHAT INDUSTRY INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE NOW. AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THERE TO BE AN INCONGRUENT SEE BETWEEN THE TWO WE HAVE MANY APPLICANTS THAT COME WITH REQUEST FOR DEVIATIONS OF ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. AND MANY OF THOSE APPLICANTS ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE CITY'S OVERALL CONCERNS. SO BASED UPON WHAT I'VE HEARD AGAIN, I'VE GOT SOME HESITANCY ABOUT THE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ABOUT THE APPLICATION. EXCUSE ME, BUT I AM ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. AS IT RELATES TO ANY RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF DENIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. MR CHAIR. UM. I WALKED IN TONIGHT. IN OPPOSITION. OF THIS CASE DUE TO THE RAISINS STAFF GAVE US. I HAVE CHANGED MY FEELING SOMEWHAT. IN THIS BECAUSE. YOU CAN'T. ALWAYS KNOW. WELL, IF THIS RESTAURANTS 20,000 TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE 21 PARKING PLACES. I SEE PLENTY OF RESTAURANTS WITH NOBODY IN THE PARKING PLACES. THE PEOPLE RUN IN, GRAB SOMETHING RUN OUT, OR THEY GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH. THE STACKING IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. YOU'RE PULLING DONUTS. YOU'RE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE FIXING HAMBURGER, FRENCH FRIES AND A CHOCOLATE SHAKE. WHICH TAKES A LITTLE LONGER. IN THE WAY THEY'VE GOT THIS PLANNED OUT WITH FIVE CARDS IN THE STACK BETWEEN THE ORDER AND THE TIME THEY'RE READY TO PICK UP I'VE WATCHED PEOPLE IN DUNCAN KNOWLEDGE IS HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN PUT TOGETHER A DOZEN DONUTS.AND HAVE THEM READY TO GO. SO I'M NOT IS CONCERNED ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS AS I WAS BEFORE I CAME IN TONIGHT. I'VE I'VE LEANED A LITTLE BIT MORE. TOWARDS.
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER ARBEN, THEN COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. JUST AN OBSERVATION. THE CITY PUTS TOGETHER. IDEAS AND USE FOR DIRT. BUT THEY DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE BUSINESS THAT MAY WANT TO GO IN THERE. WHICH REQUIRES SOME CHANGES. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE, THE CITY SAID. THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE GOOD HERE AND THE APPLICANT IS SAYING WAIT A MINUTE. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CHANGES SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A NICE STRONG BUSINESS AND IN THE CITY OF GARLAND BUT IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME CHANGES.
AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BEND A LITTLE BIT TOO. TO, UM WORK WITH A BUSINESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALBAN. THANKS, MR CHAIR. UM. LIKE COMMISSIONER DALTON. I HAD SOME CONCERNS COMING IN. BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T PRETEND TO SUBSTITUTE SOME KIND OF PRETEND EXPERTISE THAT I MIGHT HAVE OTHER THAN EATING DONUTS. UM.
AND I DID GROW UP IN NEW ENGLAND . SO THERE'S WHERE YOU KIND OF GIVE DIRECTIONS BY DUNCAN DONUTS. UM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE G D. C CAN BE VERY USEFUL GUIDE FOR US IN MANY WAYS , BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS, EVEN JUST OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY CHANGES, AND I THINK THE APPLICANT IS RIGHT THAT THAT THE WAY RESTAURANTS ARE UTILIZED. HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC. AND, UM. IT AND IF THEY TELL ME NOW, MAYBE THEY NEED TO WORK OUT WITH WITH TRANSPORTATION. WHETHER SIX CARS ARE SEVEN CARS OR HOW MANY LONG BED PICKUPS ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW , FIT THROUGH ALL OF THIS. UM IT IN AND I CERTAINLY COMMEND STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THEIR CONCERNS ON STACKING ISSUES BECAUSE I'VE MORE THAN ONCE BEEN. YOU KNOW, TRAPPED, UNABLE TO PULL OUT OF A CHICK FIL A OR OR CANES OR WHEREVER. JUST BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN DO AND WE KIND OF LIVE WITH THAT, UM I ALSO KNOW THAT AH! THAT THAT THIS PART OF THE CITY
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VERY MUCH WANTS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE IN IN DISTRICTS THREE AND FOUR IN GARLAND IS ADDITIONAL OPTIONS. BETTER PLACES TO EAT TO GET A MEAL TO BE ON THE RUN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO I IN THAT REGARD I REALLY AM INCLINED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION APPROVE. IT ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANT TO WORK IT OUT WITH, YOU KNOW AS BEST THEY CAN. YOU KNOW OUR TRANSPORTATION PAUL'S GREAT WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL DO THEM. UM BUT AND THEN LET COUNCIL TAKE A QUICKER LOOK AT IT, BUT KNOW THAT BUT LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT THAT AS A COMMISSION THAT WE SUPPORT WE SUPPORT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN GARLAND. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. I TOO AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.UM I WAS A LITTLE SKEPTICAL. COMING IN, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION IN THE AREA, AND NOT TO MENTION THAT DAIRY QUEEN. THAT'S NEXT TO IT. THAT'S MY DAIRY QUEEN. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, DON'T MESS WITH DEREK DEREK QUEEN FOR ME, BUT, UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT HEARING THE DEVELOPMENT IN HEARING ABOUT THE EXCITEMENT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED SO JUST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT. I'M STILL SLIGHTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONGESTION BECAUSE CONGESTION IN THAT AREA IS JUST TERRIBLE. TRAFFIC IS NEVER GOOD. UM BUT I'M EXCITED AND I'M I SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ART COUNCILMAN TO BE SOON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM I GUESS I'M ECHOING THAT. I'M ECHOING EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS. UM I CAME INTO THIS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF APPREHENSION, BUT I WAS VERY EXCITED FOR DISTRICT FOR SOMETHING IN SOUTH GARLAND OF THIS QUALITY. IT WAS INNOVATIVE TO BUSINESSES AND ONE BUILDING A NEW THEY'RE GOING TO DO. THEIR HOMEWORK AS FAR AS THE OPERATIONS OF THIS BUSINESS, BUT IT WAS THE FLOW GOING TO WORK AND LOOKING AT IT AND LISTENING TO THEIR REASONING OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THE MENU BOARD. IT MAKES SENSE. THESE ARE THESE ARE THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON HOW TO RUN A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT MR CHAIRMAN YOU MENTIONED WAS THE, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF OFFSITE PARKING HAVING THAT AS SOMETHING FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING WITH ALLEVIATE PRETTY MUCH ANY WORRY THAT I HAVE WITH THIS. I'M I'M THRILLED. I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND I TAKE IT YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AND I'LL JUST MORE QUESTION. ONE MORE QUESTION, OKAY? DISTRICT THREE APPLY. UH THAT'S OKAY. ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY INTO HIS OWN HIS NEXT ROLE. ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE I THINK YOU KNOW FOR CHAIRMAN FOR HELP FOR CLARIFICATION, LEGAL AND THEN STAFF GIVEN THAT THERE HAS SO WE ARE LOOKING. WE ARE ABOUT TO VOTE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH, UM IN THE IN THE DECK THAT WE RECEIVED RIGHT? BUT THEN THERE HAS BEEN UPDATES TO WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS MET IN SOME OF THOSE TECHNICAL AREAS WHERE THERE WAS NOT IN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE, SO MY VOTING OR VOTING TODAY. IS STILL ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO US THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION TO STAFF AND EVERYTHING. FIRST OF ALL, SINCE IN S U. P GOES WITH THE LAND AND NOT THE APPLICANT. SAY WE WERE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE ISSUE. P IS IT CONTINGENT ON A PLAN BEING APPROVED OR DOES IT SIT WITH THE LAND? SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND BUILD A DIFFERENT DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND HAVE A VALID S U P THE. YES AND NO. YES IT RUNS WITH THE LAND. BUT THERE'S A CONDITION IN THIS ISSUE. P THIS IS IT HAS TO BE UP AND RUNNING. I THINK 100 AND 80 DAYS THERE'S 100 AND 80 DAY LIMIT IN THERE, SO WOULD SOMEONE BE ABLE TO TURN THE LAND AND GET SOMETHING IMPROVED IN THE 100 APPEAR? PROBABLY NOT THAT THAT TAKES CARE OF ONE FEAR THAT I HAVE UM, RELATED TO THAT SAME ISSUE SAY THEY DECIDE TO SELL SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND PUTS YOU SIT DOWN RESTAURANT THAT WOULD CREATE A PARKING ISSUE WITH THE CEO TRIGGER THE NEED FOR IN THAT HAVING PARKING FOR CEO FOR A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT WITH THAT. TRIGGER THE NEED FOR ANOTHER DETAILED PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED THEN. COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? OKAY I'M TRYING TO PREVENT THINGS HAPPENING DOWN THE ROAD. ESPECIALLY WITH SOMETHING THAT GOES WITH THE LAND IF THEY WERE TO SELL OFF,
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SAYING 10 YEARS AND ANOTHER SIT DOWN. RESTAURANT WANTS TO COME IN AND WIPE IT UP. PUT SEATS 50 PEOPLE IN THERE. THEY HAVE AN S U P AND A PLAN. THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON THE SITE, BUT THE USE DICTATES MORE PARKING NEED WITH THEIR CHANGE THE VALIDITY OF THE ISSUE CORRECTLY FROM WRONG. LIBYA ISN'T THE PARKING REQUIREMENT THE SAME FOR REST. SIT DOWN RESTAURANT AND RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH. OKAY SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME PART. OKAY ALRIGHT, GOOD.THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. I'M TRYING TO DECIDE. YEAH, I COULD VOTE FOR AN ISSUE P, THEN. THE DETAILED PLAN. I CANNOT GO FOR A STRAIGHT APPROVAL STRAIGHT APPROVAL.
WE'VE SEEN SOME PROMISES NOT MUCH IN WRITING, AND I BELIEVE THEY'LL DO IT. I WOULD STILL MAKE ANY APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN CONTINGENT. ON THE MEETING ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT UP AND THIS DOES A COUPLE THINGS. LET'S COUNCIL NOWHERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DUCKS IN A ROW FIRST. BUT ALL THE OTHER REASONS. YEAH.
REDEVELOPMENT GREAT. AND COVID CHANGED OUR LIVES IN SO MANY WAYS, AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY CHANGING THE GDC. WE NOW HAVE A NEW APARTMENT ONE CLASSIFICATION FOR HORIZONTAL APARTMENTS, WHICH NOBODY EVER THOUGHT OF IN 2015 WHEN WE DID THIS, SO ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY SIXTH SENSE.
COMMISSIONER PARIS I'M READY FOR RECOMMENDATION. UH AND I MAY NEED A BIT HELP WITH THE WORD CHOICE JUST TO BE SURE THAT I'VE USED THE CORRECT LANGUAGE. I GUESS I WOULD SAY SO, UH, AND THIS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LAND USE WILL BE A CONTINGENT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE UPDATES THAT WE HEARD TODAY FROM THE APPLICANT. UM BUT I WANT TO ADD IN IN, UH, LEGAL. MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS CORRECT. THE CONDITION OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S FEEDBACK ON THE STACKING AND THE, UM AND THEN THE CROSS ACCESS FROM THE TREND THAT'S FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FAR AS IT BEING ADJACENT SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THE ADJACENCY THAT PARTICULARLY CAN BE NEEDED AND THEN SO THAT WITH THE PARKING STUDY IN THE STACKING FEEDBACK FROM BOTH BELIEVE THAT COMES FROM TRANSPORTATION. IF THAT IS INCLUDED, UM AS WELL BEFORE IT GOES BEFORE COUNCIL. OKAY, WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS TO VOTE ON ONE IS THE S U P AND THE OTHER IS A DETAILED PLANS. ARE WE DOING THEM SEPARATELY? ARE WE GOING TO PULL THEM TOGETHER SEPARATELY? SO THIS IS OK. ONLY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONDITION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILED PLAN? THE DETAILED PLAN . I WANT THAT TO BE THE APPROVAL CONTINGENT UPON THE UPDATES THAT WE HEARD TODAY. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE UPDATES THAT WE HEARD CORRECT. AND THE S U P I SO THE S U P I WOULD GO WITH THE LAND AND WE STILL NEED THE PARKING STUDY. CORRECT SO YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE THE ISSUE P CONDITIONAL UPON A PARKING STUDY CORRECT TRAFFIC CROSS ACCESS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE IT CONDITIONAL ON MUTUAL ACCESS PARKING BECAUSE IT INVOLVES LAND. NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION TO HELP ME WITH THAT. I'M ACTUALLY LEARNING SOMETHING FROM LEGAL ALL THE TIME. SO I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER PARIS IS SAYING AS SHE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT A TRAFFIC PARKING STUDIES DONE AND TRANSPORTATION APPROVES. WHATEVER IS DONE IS THAT CORRECT? YES. HMM YEAH.
PROPER SCP CONDITIONS. I THINK SO. BUT IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION AND WHEN IT GETS TO COUNSEL, THEN CLEAN IT UP. IF NEED BE, OKAY? THE QUESTION YOU HAVE. YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE MOTION YOU MADE OKAY. WELCOME YOUR EXPERIENCE HERE. YES THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE ISSUE P CONDITION UPON A PARKING AGREEMENT AND TRANSPORTATION APPROVAL OF STACKING SOLUTIONS.
AND SECOND. SECONDLY GERMAN YES PARKING AGREEMENT, A PARKING STUDY PARKING STUDY. I'M SORRY.
WRONG WORD. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HERE HELPING ME. OKAY TO RESTATE START FROM THE BEGINNING. MOTION IS TO PROVE THE S U P CONDITION TO A PARKING STUDY. BEING APPROVED. AND TRANSPORTATION APPROVING STACKING SOLUTION. THE DETAILED PLAN APPROVAL. SUBJECT TO THE ITEMS THAT STAFF HAS LISTED. AND THAT THEY DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE. PROMISED THIS COMMISSION CORRECT. MR CHAIRMAN, POINT OF ORDER. DETAILED PLAN THAT WE ARE CONCERNED, OKAY,
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HAVE ATTENTION TO COMMON. DETAILED PLAN. I THINK IT'S JUST A PLAN. YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH ATTORNEYS. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THEM? ALL RIGHT. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT. ALRIGHTY. PLEASE VOTE. DID YOU GET A SECOND? OH, YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE A SECOND. THANK YOU WITH ALL THAT EMOTION, EMOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY HERE FOR KEEPING ME IN LINE. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SECOND. THERE YOU GO. PASTOR UNANIMOUSLY. AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE WANT YOU HERE. WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE. OKAY, FOLKS.AND YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE UNDER FOUR WEEKS TO WORK THAT OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, BUT BEFORE WE ADJOURN TONIGHT, FOR THE SECOND TIME. I WANT TO WISH COMMISSIONER ART WHO'S BEEN WITH HIS 10, PLUS YEARS 13 13 YEARS HE'S MOVING ON. HE WAS ELECTED SATURDAY AS CITY COUNCILMAN. SO HE'S OFFICIALLY, COUNCILMAN.
THANK YOU. MM HMM. I WANT TO THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR NAME TAG AGAIN HERE.
THE 1ST 12. YES. 3.2 MISSION BEFORE SHE. YES, COMMISSION. JOHNSON MAYOR. ACTUALLY, NO, I'M SORRY. COUNTY. OKAY, WELL AFTER SIX MORE YEARS THANK YOU. AND BY MY COUNT BUT.
BY MY COUNT IN MY TIME HERE. I THINK THAT IS FIVE COMMISSIONERS NOW THAT HAVE GONE ON TO COUNCIL, TWO OF THEM HAVE GONE ON TO BECOME MAYOR. AND SO I'M ALWAYS WORKING WITH GOOD PEOPLE AND Y'ALL ARE NO EXCEPTION. AND I THANK YOU AS YOU'VE SEEN HOW I NEED YOUR HELP EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. THANK YOU. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF MAY 22ND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
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