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          GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 22ND MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION IN WHICH STAFF BRIEFED US ON THE CASES. WE MAY ASK SOME QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH. ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT PORTION, WE WILL RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. GOOD EVENING. FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I SEE NONE. HERE. NEXT ITEM IS THE 22 15. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 26 MULTI FAMILY UNITS AND A TOWNHOUSE STYLE CONFIGURATION AS PART OF THE NEXT PHASE OF THE DRAPER REDEVELOPMENT. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS 1.477 ACRES, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS TO FAMILY DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. SINCE THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE REST ARE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, WHICH SHOWS THREE LOTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE TAIL, BLUE COLOR AND TWO OF THESE LOTS OF CENTRAL LA AND THE EASTERN LAUDER'S OWN COMMUNITY RETAIL AND THE WESTERN LOT SOUND FOR DUPLEX. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS THE UNPLANNED DEVELOPMENT 88-12 AND THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER. AND TO THE EAST ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, AND THERE IS A BANK AND A RESTAURANT. AND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS WILSON STREET, ITS OWN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20-29, AND THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DRAPER MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND TO THE WEST IS OWN DUPLEX. AND THERE'S A DUPLEX. DEVELOPMENT. UM. THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY, THE MIDDLE LOT AND THE WESTERN LOT IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH ABANDONED BANK WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEMOLISH THAT PRIOR TO RECONSTRUCTING THIS. THE FUTURE LANDINGS. MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPOSED USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THAT'S THE CENTRAL LOT WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH BANK USE. AND THEN THE TOP. RIGHT IS THE WESTERN LOT, WHICH HAS THE PARKING FOR THE BANK. BOTTOM LEFT IS EASTERN LOT. WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED, AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THAT'S THE SHOPPING CENTER. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF 26 UNITS AND THREE LOTS. 24 UNITS IN THE CENTRAL LOT AND TWO UNITS ON THE WESTERN LOT, AND THE EASTERN IS FOR OPEN SPACE WITH AMENITIES. AND EACH UNIT DOES HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE AS WELL AS ON STREET GUEST BASES ARE REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN AS WELL. THE PROPERTY CAN BE ACCESSED FROM GARFIELD STREET, BUT IT HAS TO BE THROUGH WILSON STREET TO THE SOUTH AND THEN TO FROM WEST STATE STREET TO THE NORTH. THERE ARE SOME DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO AMENITIES AND SETBACKS, AND I WILL GO OVER THOSE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AH THE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES 40% OF THE SITE TO BE LANDSCAPED AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 32. AND THE LANDSCAPE FOR THAT'S REQUIRED ALONG STAGE. STATE STREET. UM THE BUFFER IS ALLOWED TO OVERLAP WITH THE EASEMENT, AND THERE IS A STREET EASTMAN THAT'S PROPOSED ALONG STATE STREET AND AT LEAST 6 FT. HAS TO BE, UM, MINIMUM FOR THE TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, HOWEVER, UM BECAUSE OF THE STREET EASEMENT, THERE'S A WIDE EASEMENT THAT'S PROPOSED. THERE'S A VARIABLE WITH LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN THE MINIMUM WITH WHICH IS THIS APPROXIMATE LOCATION IS 2.7 FT, SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION ON THAT. IN ADDITION, THERE'S EIGHT LARGE CANOPY TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED ALONG STATE STREET WHEN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES SEVEN LARGE CANOPY TREES AND FOUR SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES DUE TO THE OVERHEAD UTILITIES. EAST OF THE EAST OF GARFIELD STREET. UM THERE'S A TOTAL OF. 14 TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 10 AND ALSO DUE TO THE OVER. HOW DO UTILITIES WEST OF GARFIELD STREET. UM, FOUR TREES ARE REQUIRED IN THE APPLICANT 
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PROPOSES TO CANOPY TREES AND TWO SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES. AND ALONG WILSON STREET. UM A TOTAL OF FIVE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CANOPY TREES AND TWO SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE FOUR UNIT BUILDING. THIS IS FOR THE TWO UNIT BUILDING, AND THAT'S THE WESTERN LOT. HERE'S A THREE D RENDERING. HERE'S THE LIST OF THE DEVIATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE BUILDING. SETBACKS UM, REQUIRED FOR FRONT YARD, SIDE YARD AND REAR YARD. JASON TO THE STREET IS 20 FT. AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 10 FT, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPOSED LIVING UNITS ARE TECHNICALLY MULTI FAMILY WITH MULTIPLE UNITS AND A LOT, THE UNIT WILL FUNCTION LIKE TOWN HOUSES. THE SCALE AND ORIENTATION WILL FUNCTION LIKE TOWN HOMES. THE GREATER STEP BACK OF MULTI FAMILY DISTRICT ARE INTENDED FOR CONVENTIONAL MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS THAT ARE GREATER IN SCALE AND HEIGHT. SINCE THESE ARE EFFECTIVELY TOWN HOMES. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES REQUESTED REDUCTION AND THE BUILDING SETBACK. I SHOULD BE NOTED THE BUILDING SETBACK IN THE SINGLE FAMILY. ADJACENT DISTRICT IS 10 FT. THE NEXT DEVIATION IS FOR THE BUILDING PLACEMENT. ALL PORTIONS OF THE MULTI FAMILY STRUCTURE MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FT FROM OTHER MULTI FAMILY STRUCTURES, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 15 FT. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE A TOWNHOUSE STYLE CONFIGURATION. NEXT ONE IS MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. UM WHICH IS 60% AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 63. THE ADDITIONAL LOT COVERAGE IS REQUIRED DUE TO THE 20 FT STREET EASEMENT ALONG WEST STATE STREET. AND UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, UM SOME DEVIATIONS ON THE AMENITIES. A CLUBHOUSE AND SWIMMING POOL ARE REQUIRED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CLUBHOUSE AT 2500 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE IS REQUIRED AND ONE SWIMMING POOL WITH 800 SQUARE FEET OF SURFACE WATER IS REQUIRED. AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT WILL FUNCTION LIKE CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN MOST WAYS. THE LIMITED NUMBER OF UNITS DO NOT SUPPORT HAVING A CLUBHOUSE WITH AMENITIES AS FOUND WITH MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THESE RESIDENTS CAN SHARE AMENITIES WITH THE FACE ONE OF THE DRAPER, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE NEXT ONE IS OVERALL LANDSCAPING. 40% OF THE GROSS PLANTED AREA MUST BE LANDSCAPE AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 32% THE 40% SITE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT IS INTENDED FOR CONVENTIONAL MULTI FAMILY WITH LARGE SETBACKS AND MORE SPACE. THIS IS AN URBAN TOWNHOUSE STYLE DEVELOPMENT WITH APPROPRIATE SETBACK AND ON SITE OPEN SPACE. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THE GDC ALLOWS THE LANDSCAPE EFFORT TO OVERLAP THE EASEMENT, HOWEVER , 6 FT MUST BE ONLY FOR THE LANDSCAPING. THE LANDSCAPE OF FOR A LONG WEST STATE STREET REQUIRES EIGHT LARGE CANOPY TREES. AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG EAST SIDE OF GARFIELD STREET REQUIRES 14 LARGE CANOPY TREES. AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF GARFIELD STREET RECORD FIVE LARGE CANOPY TRUTH AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A VARIABLE WITH LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH THE MINIMUM DEPTH OF 2.7 FT. AND THEN ON THE, UM WEST SIDE. SORRY. THE WEST STATE STREET BUFFER REQUIRES SEVEN LARGE CANOPY TREES FOR SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES. ON THE EAST SIDE OF GARFIELD STREET. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 10 LARGE CANOPY TREES. AND THEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF GARFIELD, TWO LARGE CANOPY TREES AND TWO SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES. THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, MAYBE A VARIABLE WIDTH AND MAY OVERLAP THE EASEMENT, BUT AT LEAST 6 FT SHOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE EASTMAN. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS MORE WALKABLE WITH SMALLER YARDS WITH WALK UPS FROM THE STREET. THE VARIABLE WITH PRIVATE YARD, ALONG WITH PRIVATE PARKWAY AREA WILL MEET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE REQUIRED BUFFER. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED REQUEST A DEVIATION ON SOME OF THE LARGE CANOPY TREES YOU TO THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM TWO FAMILY DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTI FAMILY TWO USES. AN APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE MAILED OUT. 98 LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? UM REMEMBER COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE. GOOD MORNING OR GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. 
          THIS IS PHASE TWO OF THE TWO FACED PROJECT. CORRECT ACTUALLY. PHASE THREE. PHASE THREE, OKAY? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY DRIVE FROM THIS PHASE INTO THE PRIOR PHASE? THAT'S 
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ACTUALLY ON GARLAND. AND AVENUE. B. IT IS ACROSS THE STREET, SO THERE'S NO DIRECT CONNECTION CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. DOUBLE CHECK. 
          UM YEAH. SO THIS IS WHERE, UM THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS RIGHT THAT BUT IT DOES TOUCH. 
          BUT IS THERE A PHYSICAL DRIVE BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS? NO, IT DOES HAVE TO CROSS THROUGH WILSON STREET. OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. THE STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE VARIANCES THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED WITH RESPECT. YOU KNOW, NOT 6 FT, BUT 2 FT. AND THIS IS NOT EIGHT TREES BUT FIVE TREES AND WHATEVER WHATEVER WAS OKAY WITH THE STAFF. SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS AS SPECIFICALLY THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINE, AND THERE'S A 20 FT STREET EASTMAN THAT'S REQUIRED ALONG WEST STATE STREET. AND SO THAT IS WHY THEY REQUESTED SOME OF THOSE DEVIATIONS. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION. I NOTICED THAT ON THE SCREEN FENCE BETWEEN THIS AND I GUESS A SINGLE FAMILY ONLY A 5 FT. TALL. THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE. YEAH I THINK I'M STANDARD IS 6 TO 8 FT. 
          WOULD THAT BE A DEVIATION? OR SHOULD WE ASK HIM TO DO IS 6 FT. OR IS IT EVEN REQUIRED? I BELIEVE FOR THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE . IT IS 5 FT, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY DOUBLE CHECK THAT THEY ARE PUTTING GREENERY THERE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GROW ABOVE IT AND EVERYTHING OKAY? AND THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT THAT THEY'RE HERE, AND IT'S JUST ME AND MY ARCHITECTURAL WAY. THOSE DEAD VALLEYS ARE GOING TO BE AN ISSUE SOONER OR LATER. WITH ROOFS COME IN LIKE THIS. I HOPE THEY'VE GOT A GOOD WHAT WE CALL SADDLE OR CRICKET TO DRAIN THE WATER OFF OF IT, OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE OVER OVER THE YEARS LEAST, THAT'S WHAT MY BUILDERS TELL ME. AND IT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS APPROVAL. JUST MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD FOR OH, AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THE GARAGE SIZES THAT MAYBE THEY CAN ADDRESS BECAUSE I'M NOT THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN. I THINK THEY SHOULD 22 FT TWO INCHES FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGE TO THE INSIDE OF A CLOSET. AND IF YOU TAKE 11 INCHES OFF FOR THE WALL OF THE GARAGE DOOR DOWN TO 21 3, AND IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST 2 FT. FOR THAT CLOSET, PROBABLY MORE AT 19 3 19 FT DEPTH, AND I THINK CITY OF GARLAND HAS, AS YOU TOLD ME A 20 FT BY 20 FT GARAGE REQUIREMENTS SO AGAIN THAT MAY BE SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD FORM NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS, BUT TO GET A PERMIT, THEY MAY NEED TO ADJUST THEIR PLANS. THAT'S IT. OH, COMMISSIONER ROSE AGAIN AND THEN COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. MY QUESTION IS WITH RESPECT TO THE FENCE THAT ARE LEADER BROUGHT UP. UH THAT'S THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THREE STORY, UH, UNITS. RIGHT? AND IN THE THIRD FLOOR, BASICALLY IS GONNA LOOKING RIGHT DOWN IN THE BACKYARD OF THESE HOUSES WON'T DO THAT MUCH GOOD FOR THAT SITUATION. CORRECT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY YOU TALK WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE UNDERSTANDS A SOLID WOOD FENCE OR SOLID BRICK FENCE. 8 FT. 
          TALL. WOULD BE BETTER THAN JUST BARBED WIRE FENCE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT BARBED WIRE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. ALRIGHT COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD UM, I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE REQUIRED VISITOR PARKING IS. I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. BUT WHAT'S THE REQUIRED? VISITOR SPACE PARKING THIS IS CONSIDERED MULTI FAMILY , SO THERE IS NO DESIGNATED VISITOR SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR MULTI FAMILY. BUT BECAUSE THIS LAYOUT IS MORE OF A TOWNHOUSE STYLE, WE DID ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING. OKAY? OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD QUESTION. ALRIGHTY NEXT. NEXT ITEM IS THE 22 70, THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO OPERATE A WAREHOUSE, SHOWROOM AND OFFICE SPACE IN THE EXISTING BUILDING. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS 1.84 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 69 31. AND HERE'S THE CITY BY LOCATION MAP. THE REST ARE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 60 LOCATION MAP AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR. UM THE 
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SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OWNED TO BE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 69 31. BUT IN BACK IN 2010, THERE WAS AN SCP THAT WAS APPROVED FOR HVAC FACILITY. UM BUT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE A PART OF THIS BUILDING AS WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM. AND THIS EXISTING PD IS IN MULTIPLE TRACKS, WHICH ALLOWS SEVERAL DIFFERENT USES. UM AND THIS PARTICULAR TRACT ALLOWS OFFICE USES AND, UM, BUT THE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS. SO THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO REZONE TO COMMUNITY RETAIL AND REQUEST THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR THE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM. THE FUTURE LEARNING MAP OF THE INVASION. GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS CONDUCIVE TO THE PROPOSED LAND USE, AND THE USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HOWEVER THERE MAY BE FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE GENERAL AREA THAT MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTERS DESIGNATION. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. THE TOP LEFT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. TOP, RIGHT IS EAST SIDE. BOTTOM LEFT IS NORTH SIDE AND BOTTOM, RIGHT IS WEST SIDE. AND HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. THE THIS IS THE BUILDING. UM AND THE TOTAL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 15,400 SQUARE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ONLY USE 6000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM, AND THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO USE TO SELL AND STORE REFURBISHED PHONES. THE PHONES WILL BE REFURBISHED AT ANOTHER LOCATION AND THAT WILL BRING IN THOSE PHONES AND STORY ABOUT THIS LOCATION. AND THIS IS WHOLESALE AS WELL. UM AND THEN THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY USED FOR OFFICE AND RETAIL USE. AND THE PIPELINE DOES MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT PER THE G. 
          D. C. AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME. NO DEVIATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SCP TO BE VALID FOR FIVE YEARS. THE S C P TIME PERIOD. GUY DOES NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDED TIME PERIOD FOR A WAREHOUSE OFFICER ROOM AND WE'RE ONLY USE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PD, 69 31 TO COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM INTO OUR ONLY AN APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM IN OR ONLY USE. CONCURS WITH THE SHORTER TIME SCP TIME PERIOD REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AS THERE MAY BE FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE 86 35 CORRIDOR. HMM. 
          AND HE MAILED OUT. 31 LETTERS AND DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST ONE QUICK ONE FOR CLARIFICATION TO S U P WILL ONLY APPLY TO THAT 6000 SQUARE FEET, NOT THE REST OF THE BUILDING. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. NEXT ITEM IS THE 23 05 THE APPLICANT PROPOSALS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT A MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 177 DWELLING UNITS. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.361 ACRES. AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS COMMUNITY OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. HERE'S THE CITY BY LOCATION MAP. THE REST ARE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS SMALL PORTION IS ZONED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR COMMUNITY OFFICE, THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OR ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 82-12. THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. TO THE EAST IS OWNED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL. THERE IS MEDICAL OFFICE. UM ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USES. TO THE SOUTH. UM ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 70-43 WITH SOME TOWN HOUSES. AND THEN TO THE WEST IS OWNED PD 82-29. THERE'S SOME RETAIL USES. AND THEN, UM, THE REST OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS AN EXISTING THERE'S A RETIREMENT HOME THAT IS NO LONGER IN OPERATION AND THE APPLICANT REQUEST TO DEMOLISH THAT BUILDING TO CONSTRUCT THIS, UM, THESE MULTI FAMILY UNITS. THE FUTURE LAND USE MET WITH THE INVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES 
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THIS PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS PROPOSAL REPRESENTS A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH PRIMARY ACCESS TO WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND SCREENED FROM THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS PROPOSAL IS REDEVELOPMENT. AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. THE TOP LEFT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM CENTERVILLE, AND THAT'S THE RETIREMENT HOME. THAT IS THE LONGER IN OPERATION. TOP RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. BOTTOM LEFT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOUR STORIES TOTAL OF 177 UNITS. AND THERE'S TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM CENTERVILLE ROAD AND AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY FROM SHADWELL DRIVE. UM THE . THE SITE DOES MEET ALL THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER THE GDC . UM THERE ARE SOME AMENITIES PROPOSED OVER HERE WILL BE THE SWIMMING POOL AND THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE. THERE IS THE LEISURE AREA WITH BARBECUE GRILL AND PICNIC TABLE AND THEN THERE'S A PLAYGROUND OVER HERE. AS WELL. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS TO MULTIFAMILY TO DISTRICT WHICH MEANS THE MAXIMUM , UM, DENSITY IS 50. THAT'S ALLOWED PART THE G. D. C S FIFTIES DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS SORRY . THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS 32 DWELLING IN HIS PICTURE TAKER, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 50 FT. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS. UM, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE G D. C DOES REQUIRE 40% OF THE SITE TO BE LANDSCAPE AND THIS SITE, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN DOES SHOW 21% TO BE LANDSCAPE. AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A 6 FT MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS TO THE WEST. UM AND THE G. D. C DOES REQUIRE LARGE CANOPY TREES, EVERY 25 FT, BUT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DEVIATE FROM THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME A COMBINATION OF HIGH LEVEL AND LOW LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS ALONG THE MASONRY WALL. BUT THAT IS A DEVIATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. AND ALONG THE REST OF THE PERIMETER. THEY'RE PROPOSING A 6 FT. WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS. IT'S FOR BUILDING TOO. HERE ARE THE DEVIATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR DENSITY. 
          THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED MULTI FAMILY, TOO, IS 32 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 41 MINUTES BREAKER. AND THIS PROJECT IS NOT A TRADITIONAL GARDEN TELL MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND ALLIANCE CLOSER TO THAT OF AN URBAN STYLE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE UNIQUE SITE LAYOUT WARRANTS THIS APPROACH AND THE APPLICANT BELIEFS THAT PROPOSED UNIT MIXES CONDUCIVE TO OF THE INTENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY. NEXT ONE IS BUILDING HEIGHT. MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 50 FT PROPOSED IS 59 FT. GIVEN THE PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THAT OF AN URBAN STYLE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN HEIGHT AS IT IS TO BE EXPECTED. ADDITIONAL MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO ENSURE THE BUILDING HEIGHT. DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES, INCLUDING SCREENING AND PLANTING. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE A MAXIMUM BUILDING HYPER THE G D. C 59 FT BUILDING , SUBJECT TO THE 50 FT SETBACK WOULD CURRENTLY BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT THE NEXT ONE IS EFFICIENCY UNIT A MAXIMUM OF 10% OF THE TOTAL UNITS CAN BE EFFICIENCY UNIT AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 11.8% IN THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING MORE EFFICIENCY UNITS DUE TO THE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. NEXT DEVIATION IS DUMPSTER. 
          DEMPSTER'S ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK. AND THE DUMPSTER THAT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN CORNER IS WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK. AND THE DUMPSTER IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND BACKS TO THE END OF SCHEDULE DRIVE. BUT BASES INTO THE SUBJECT SITE. THE 50 FT BUILDING SETBACK ALONG SINGLE FAMILY ADJACENCY LIMITS AVAILABLE LOCATIONS FOR THE DUMPSTER AND THE ADDITION OF THE AMENITIES AND PARKING REQUIREMENT MAKE LOCATING AN ADDITIONAL DUMPSTER EXTREMELY CHALLENGING. NEXT ONE IS LANDSCAPING. 40% SHOULD BE LANDSCAPED, PROPOSING 21. THE AMOUNT OF PARKING NEEDED FOR 
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THIS. DEVELOPMENT AND NEED FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY PROVES CHALLENGING FOR LANDSCAPE AREA. 
          PLANTINGS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THROUGHOUT TO MATCH THE INTENT OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT. 
          THE LAST ONE IS SCREENING. A 6 FT MASONRY WALLS REQUIRED WITH LARGE CANOPY TREES. EVERY 25 FT. 
          AND A 6 FT MASONRY WALL WITH COMBINATION OF LOW LEVEL SCREENING AND HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS ARE PROPOSED. SITE LAYOUT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT GIVEN THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THE SITE LEAVES ONLY ENOUGH ROOM ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE REQUIRED MASONRY SCREENING WALL, ALONG WITH PLANTING SMALLER IN SIZE THAN THE REQUIRED LARGE CANOPY TREES. VARIOUS PLANTING OPTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO TRY AND MEET THE INTENT OF THIS REQUIREMENT. 
          WITH THE FOCUS ON PROVIDING ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WITH ADEQUATE SCREENING FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSAL PRESENTS A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR NEW MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. HOWEVER STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT AN 8 FT MASONRY SCREENING WALL IS PROVIDED ALONG THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES RATHER THAN THE PROPOSED 6 FT WALL AND TO PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL OF VEGETATIVE SCREENING ALONG THIS MASONRY WALLS, SUCH AS NELLIE STEVENS. OR CHERRY LAUREL AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF ONE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE. UM AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTI FAMILY TO USES AND TO A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE MAILED OUT. 197 LETTERS ZERO AND FAVOR WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA. 32 WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. ONE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. NINE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. ADDITIONAL YES. AND THOSE NUMBERS? YES WELL THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE THERE ACTUAL RESPONSES BUT DO NOT INCLUDE THERE WAS A CITIZEN INITIATIVE PETITION THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE RESPONSE ATTACHMENTS AND IN YOUR PACKETS AS WELL. SO AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE COUNT FOR THE CITIZEN WHO ORGANIZED IT THERE, 145 PARTICIPANTS AND THERE WERE TWO IN FAVOR AND 143 AGAINST THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE. IS THAT IS THE APPLICANT AWARE OF ALL THESE RESPONSES AND HAVE THEY TALKED WITH YOU AS FIRST QUESTION. THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE APPLICANT AWARE OF THEY SUGGESTED CHANGES THE RECOMMENDATIONS. TO THE WALLS AND SO FORTH. YES THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THOSE CHANGES. THE RECOMMENDATION. UM THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. UM, SO THEY THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO AWARE OF THE THOSE, UM DEVIATIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO WHERE YEAH. OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A FIGHT? OH, THE APPLICANT IS OPEN TO THAT RECOMMENDATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU SEE NONE. ALRIGHTY. AND I THINK THAT WAS LAST ITEM FOUR. NO. WE GOT A YEAH. THAT WAS THE LAST ONE SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK I'M CORRECTING THAT, AREN'T WE? NO WE GOT ONE MORE. YES, SIR. ONE MORE. HAD TO FLIP OVER MY AGENDA. FIND IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M THE LAST ONE IS 23 13. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 15, 21 AND 16 13 RAIL AND ROAD IS 1.443 ACRES, AND IT'S CURRENTLY AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA. 
          TO THE NORTH. IT'S BORDERED BY PD 83 39. THAT'S CURRENTLY A SINGLE FAMILY. UH RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. AH UM, BORDERING IT ARE TWO AGRICULTURAL HOME AGRICULTURALLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND ACROSS THE STREET LIES A SHOPPING CENTER PD 84 101, GENERALLY CONSISTING OF FOOD AND RETAIL USES, UM THEY'RE ALSO TO COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONED AREAS NEARBY, WHICH CURRENTLY LIE VACANT. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS SITE LISTED FOR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GENERALLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. 
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HOWEVER THEY ALSO ACCOMMODATE, UH ACCOMMODATE, UH, CONVENIENCE , RETAIL OFFICE SPACE, UM, AND PUBLIC SERVICES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT OFFERS A LIGHT NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SUPPORTIVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO DO FEEL LIKE THIS ZONING CHANGE DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OH AND I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AS ZONING. CATEGORY IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE OF ALL COMMERCIAL USES. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM REALITY ROAD. THIS IS CURRENTLY THE DAYCARE CENTER, WHICH THE APPLICANT DOES INTEND TO KEEP RUNNING. THIS IS LOOKING EAST DOWN RAIL AT ROAD THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS CURRENTLY JUST A VACANT LOT. LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET SOUTH ACROSS RELEVANT ROAD IS THE SHOPPING CENTER PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED CONTAINING MOSTLY FOOD AND RETAIL USES. AND FINALLY LOOKING WEST DOWN BALLOT ROAD TOWARDS OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. STAFF RECOMMENDS A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES TOTAL ONE RESPONSE AND THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR AND ONE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SEE NONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM THEN SO WE UNTIL SEVEN O' GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 22ND MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN 
          [Call to Order]
COMMITTEE. IS THIS OUR CUSTOM? WE HAVE. COMMISSIONERS TYPICALLY START THE MEETING WITH APPARENT PLEDGE YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US , WHETHER YOU JOIN US OR NOT, IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION. TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY. THERE WE GO. UH YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN US. WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISION OF THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. NEVER HAS. NEVER WILL. I WILL BE LEADING THE PARENT PLEDGE NIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME HEAVENLY FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE OF GARLAND. THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND A SPECIAL CALL OUT TO FIRE TRUCK. SEVEN. SHIFT A WHO, AFTER TAKING A PERSON WHO HAD A HEART ATTACK WHILE MOWING HIS YARD TO THE HOSPITAL, CAME BACK AND FINISHED MOWING HIS YARD FORM. THAT IS THE KIND OF PEOPLE GARLAND IS MADE OF. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL FIRST RESPONDERS. AND MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE UNKNOWING THIS EVERY DAY WHEN THEY LEAVE THE DOOR. PLEASE GIVE THIS COMMISSIONER WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE FOR ALL INVOLVED. AND WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. USUALLY, I'M TALKING TO AN EMPTY ROOM. BUT WITH EVERYBODY HERE YOU ALL ARE. WHAT MAKES THINGS WORK. AND I USUALLY HAVE A SHORT INTRODUCTION, BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO MY LONGER. UH INTRODUCTION IS TO THE HEARING AND STUFF. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS AND I REALLY DO. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. YOU MAKE THE SYSTEM WORK. MANY TIMES ANY OF THESE COMMISSIONERS WILL TELL YOU MANY TIMES WILL READ THE STAFF REPORT TO OUR RESEARCH. WE MAY BE LEANING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, ONLY TO HAVE THAT CHANGED BY CITIZEN TESTIMONIAL WITH THE APPLICANT SAYS SO. IT IS GOOD THAT YOU COME DOWN. WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS. THE COMMISSION IS HERE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. ONLY WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY. 
          THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. WE MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE LAND USE AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE USE, AND WE STRIVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE BASED ON LOGIC OR EXPERIENCE, LAND USE PLAN AND THE PROFESSIONAL INPUT FROM STAFF NOW THE COUNCIL EXPECTS THE COMMISSION TO GIVE THEM THEIR BEST. THOUGHTFUL, NON POLITICAL ADVICE. WE CAN CITY COUNCIL. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS NOW WE WANT TO HEAR ALL PERTINENT AND NEW INFORMATION. SO PLEASE REFRAIN IF YOU CAN FROM REPEATING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS COME UP AND SAY I AGREE AND THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP THEM. UH MOVING, BUT WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, TOO. SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE STICK AROUND BY THE MICROPHONE. AND PLEASE NO OUT BURSTS OF APPLAUSE OR JEERS. IT DISRUPTS MEETING AND PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM BEING FULLY HEARD. AND PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, THE APPLICANT OR STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE JUST TO THE 
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COMMISSION, AND MY GOAL IS TO HAVE AN ORDERLY MEETING WHERE ALL CAN HAVE THEIR SAY. AND THE COMMISSION WILL BE FULLY INFORMED BEFORE MAKING A DECISION. AFTER ALL THE TESTIMONY, WE WILL VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND NO OTHER INPUT WILL BE HEARD UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER HAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION, SO AS A REMINDER PLEASE SIGN UP TO SPEAK. I THINK A FEW OF YOU HAVE AND WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT 15 MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE ALLOW OTHER FOLKS THREE MINUTES. AND BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AN HOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL DEFINITELY LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND I WILL BE WATCHING THE CLOCK A LITTLE CLOSER. THERE'S A CLOCK DOWN THERE. SO IF YOU CAN HOLD IT 23 MINUTES, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS AND REMEMBER, COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTION FOR IT. AND I DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION TONIGHT. ALRIGHT TO START OFF OUR AGENDA . WE HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA CONCERNED AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING FOR IN ONE MOTION . I WILL READ OUT THE ITEMS AND ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION. OR NEW AUDIENCE WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED HER INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. JUST LET ME KNOW. ITEM ONE A AT THE CONSENT 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAY 8TH 2023 MEETING. I AM TO A THE IMPACT FEE REPORT. ITEM THREE A PLAN 23-15 TRICON GARLAND PRELIMINARY PLANT AND ITEM THREE B PLAYED 23-16 LCG FIRE WHEEL FINAL PLAN. COMMISSIONERS WANT ANY ITEM REMOVED. AND I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN YOU WOULD LIKE AN ITEM REMOVED. MR FISHER CHAIRMAN LIKE THE LAST PLATT, ITEM THREE. B. ALRIGHT, WHAT WE WILL DO FIRST IS IF I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCEPT ITEM THREE B. SO MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ARBEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THIS IS TO IMPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. EXCEPT FOR PLATT. 23 DAYS 16. 
          [3B. P 23-16 - LCG Firewheel Final]
AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MR FISHER. HAVE A COUPLE EXHIBITS. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 
          THAT'S THE WRONG ONE. YEAH. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER WITH HIS OWN DEV, 2502 GRAND VIEW DRIVE. RICHARDSON TEXAS 75080 AND REPRESENTING THE DIRE FAMILY. DIRE FAMILY OWNS THE PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE SCREEN HERE. NO, WE'RE NOT SEEING IT YET. THERE WE GO. 
          THERE WE GO. OH, YEP. ALL RIGHT. DIRE FAMILY OWNS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT, PLATT UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT PROPERTY IS SOMEWHAT LANDLOCKED, DOESN'T HAVE SOME FRONTAGE ON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH. BUT THERE'S NO ACCESS NO ACCESS WOULD EVER BE GRANTED. 
          AND YOU PROBABLY RECALL THESE TRACKS AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE DETAILED PLANS HAVE COME THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND IF YOU RECALL, THE DIRE TRACK DID HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN DETAILED PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN MAY OF 2022. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN DID RELY ON ACCESS TO POINTS OF ACCESS. PUBLIC ACCESS IS MET THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THIS TRACK AND AN EMERGENCY ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH A FIRE LANE THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE MIDDLE OF THE DIRE TRACK. UM WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS THIS PLAT MEETS ALL THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PLAT. THIS PLAT DOES SHOW FULL ACCESS AS I MENTIONED THROUGH. IT'S A IT'S A PRIVATE STREET, BUT IT'S GONNA ACTUALLY IT'S GONNA ACT OR LIKE AND FUNCTION LIKE A PUBLIC STREET. IT'LL BE IN A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. UM AND THEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. UH SECOND POINT OF ACCESS THAT YOU SEE THERE, AND HERE'S THE AFFILIATED SITE PLAN THAT THAT SHOWS THAT, UM ONE QUESTION THAT WE DO HAVE FOR THE CITY IS, UH, IF THIS PLOT IS APPROVED WITH THESE ACCESS EASEMENTS IN THE EVENT THAT THE DIRE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD. OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A DETAILED PLAN APPROVED IT. DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION COMES FORWARD FOR BUILDING PERMITS SITE PERMIT AND BUILDING PERMIT WITH THE CITY. APPROVE SITE AND BUILDING PERMITS. UM WELL, THE ACCESS BE SUFFICIENT IF WE SHOW ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CONNECTS TO THOSE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT. AH I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR CITY TONIGHT. UH FROM WHAT I GATHER, CITY STAFF SAYS IT MEETS ALL THE CONDITIONS AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'S ALL WE CAN TALK ABOUT. DO, 
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COMMISSIONER ROBIN. JUST JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S ILLEGAL QUESTION IN THIS IS NOT A I THINK THAT'S OUT OF OUR I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT. EDWARD JURISDICTION, I THINK, IS IT? I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. DID YOU MENTIONED THAT IT MEETS ALL STATE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR ME TO ALL STATE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE WE HAVE. THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS APPROVE IT ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT? OKAY FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE QUESTION BEING POSED TO CITY STAFF. MR CHAIR I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT'S NOT BEFORE US TONIGHT. IT'S NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. OKAY HE SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, RIGHT? YEAH I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT THE THERE'S A TRACK THE TRACK ON THE WEST SIDE THAT SERVES THIS PROPOSED PLATT. UM, THERE'S A ACCESS EASEMENT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, UM AT THE COUNTY AND AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UM, WITH THIS ESTABLISHES A MANDATE. 
          THIS IS THIS IS ACTING MORE LIKE A PUBLIC EASEMENT ON THE SUBJECT. PLATT. AH I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S OUR ROLE TO ADVISE. YOU GUYS ARE WHAT THE LEGAL RIGHTS WOULD BE OR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. WHEN ALL YOU ALL OVERCOME. I MEAN, IT'S JUST I THINK OUR ONLY AUTHORITY AS RESTRICTED BY THE STATE ON THIS IS TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT MEETS THE TECHNICAL GARMENTS. I THINK WE CAN ADVISE YOU ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IT. WE DON'T WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT THAT WE WANT TO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN COME FORWARD FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ON THE DIRE TRACK FOR OUR PERMIT THAT THE ACCESS IS ESTABLISHED AND THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY THERE WON'T BE A REASON FOR THE CITY TO DENY A SITE PERMIT APPLICATION. I HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE WERE IF YOU'RE PLATT MEETS THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. I'M PRETTY SURE WE'LL APPROVE IT. UM BECAUSE STATE LAW REQUIRES US TO DO THAT. BUT AS WE WILL BE DOING THAT, BUT AS FOR BUT AS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANY THAT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE. OF OUR OF OUR JURISDICTION, SO I'D SUGGEST I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN TELL ANYTHING ELSE. BUT WHAT COMMISSIONER EITHER WAY AND WE COULD DECEIVE EVERYTHING OFF SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS, UH, PLAID APPLICATION. SEEING NONE COMMISSIONERS PROOF. 
          OKAY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALL BEEN TO APPROVE. PLAYED 23 DAYS. 16 LCG FIRE WHEEL FINAL. MAN, YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE HERE WE GO. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ONTO OUR ZONING CASES AND THE 1ST 1 TO 2 PARTER FOR A 
          [Items 4A & 4B]
AND FOUR B FOUR A CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM TWO FAMILY DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTI FAMILY TO USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 110117 AND 119, GARFIELD STREET AND 1 21 GRANT STREET. ITEM TO BE CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SAME ADDRESS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T AMY MATTHEWS FOR THE APPLICANT. OR WHOEVER YOU WANT. SEND UP. MR CHAIRMAN, MISHEARD, BUT DID YOU SAY TO BE OR FOUR B FOUR? B YEAH, I MAY HAVE MISQUOTED FOR A AND FOUR B. 
          I GET MY MERGE MIXED UP SOMETIMES. GOOD EVENING, SHERIFF. HI ALRIGHT. GET STARTED. SO I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SO THIS IS THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE DRAPER GARLAND. WE'RE CALLING THEM ROW APARTMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP OR THE AREA IN FRONT OF YOU. THE AREA OUTLINED AND, UM BREAD IS OUR CURRENT LOCATION. SO THAT'S THE THREE MY POINTER WORKS RIGHT? THE THREE LIVES SO YOU HAVE THE MAIN ONE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE TWO HERE ON THE SIDE AND THEN IN THE YELLOW AREA HIGHLIGHTED AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE DRAPER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT. I JUST PUT IN THE SLIDE HERE SO THE APPLICANT FOR THIS IS STILL A GROUND FLOOR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WORKING WITH ITS KIND OF A CONTINUATION IN SOME WAYS OF THIS, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. ON HERE SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE EXISTING PROPERTY OR THE MAIN LARGER LOT IS WHERE THE CHASE BANK USED TO BE LOCATED. I KNOW THAT THE I WAS OUT THERE PUTTING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO PUT UP SIGNS AND THEN I TOOK SOME PICTURES. AND SO THE A. T M, I BELIEVE IS STILL USABLE. THAT'S BECAUSE I DID SEE SOME PEOPLE 
          [00:45:01]
DRIVE ON SITE TO USE A T M. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S UM, EMPTY RIGHT NOW. SO WE ARE REQUESTING TO COME IN AND DO 26 UNITS TOWN HOME KIND OF CONFIGURATION. I KNOW THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL AND THE TWO FAMILY AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME TO FAMILY LOT. I GET BACK. I'LL GO BACK TO THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE LOTS RIGHT HERE IN GARFIELD ER, ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH THE TWO FAMILY. AND SO THE LOT THE DEVELOPMENT GOING THERE IS GOING TO BE SIMILAR ON THAT LOT. SO RIGHT HERE ON THIS TOP LEFT HAND CORNER IS, UM ONE OF THE LOTS AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A TWO UNIT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A DUPLEX. UM THEY ARE ALSO ONLY TWO STORIES BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE WORK SESSION. I THINK THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE HYPE, BUT THEY ARE TWO STORIES. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THOSE AND ALL THE ONES IN THE CENTER HERE ARE GOING TO BE FOUR PLEX IS SO SIMILAR TO THE ATTACHED. I KNOW YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, BUT WE DON'T MEET THAT QUALITY. UM, IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE, UH, THAT DEFINITION. SO WE'RE COMING IN TO REQUEST A PD WITH THE MULTI FAMILY. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME DEVIATIONS BECAUSE IT'S COMING IN AS MORE OF A KIND OF A MIX WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IT IN MORE OF A MIXED USE WALKABLE AREA, WHICH I KNOW IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING ALL DOWNTOWN, OBVIOUSLY AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE AKIN TO A TOWN HOME. BUT WE'RE COMING IN UNDER THAT MULTI FAMILY, SO THERE'S 26 UNITS. UM 24 OF THEM ARE THE SIX SLOTS WHETHER I HAVE FOUR UNITS EACH. YOU WILL HAVE A FRONT WALK UP TYPE. UM WE'LL SHOW SOME AIR SOME ELEVATIONS IN A MINUTE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN THE BACK, AND SO THE DRIVEWAYS ON THE BACK AND THE ACTUAL ENTRANCES ARE IN THE FRONT. SO UM, THE DRIVEWAY OR THE GARAGE ISN'T RIGHT NEXT TO THE FRONT DOOR, WHICH IS NICE AND LET'S SEE. HERE'S A LANDSCAPE PLAN THERE. THE SHOWS THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME DEVIATIONS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT IN THE IN THE WORK SESSION , SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE SITE PLANE. WE ARE REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS FOR THE FRONT SIDE AND REAR SETBACK. TO GO FROM 20 FT TO 10 FT. AND THOSE WOULD BE AKIN TO WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. BUT OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T GO WITH THE MULTI FAMILY BECAUSE MULTI FAMILY ISN'T SET UP EXACTLY THIS WAY AND THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING PLACEMENT WERE REQUESTING THAT THEY CAN BE 15 FT. APART, AS OPPOSED TO 20 BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S FINE WITH THE BUILDING CODES. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN BEEN THROUGH ALL THE DIVISIONS AND FIRE AND EVERYONE AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO THE LANDSCAPING SIMILAR. WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME DEVIATIONS FOR CANADA FOR LANDSCAPING IS MOSTLY ALONG ST ST ST. WE ARE DEDICATING 20 FT OF RIGHT AWAY THERE, AND WE DO HAVE SOME OVERHEAD AND UNDERGROUND UTILITY LINES. SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME OF THOSE. 
          AND OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE, I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO THEM. AND THEN ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I KNOW IS THAT THE MULTI FAMILIES OWNING REQUIRES CLUBHOUSE AND A SWIMMING POOL AMENITIES. AND THIS, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE DRAPER. 
          IT'LL BE A PART OF THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE ALL THE MINUTES OF A DRAPER'S SO THEY COULD EITHER WILL KIND OF GO BACK WALK ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT HERE, OR THEY CAN DRIVE WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE UP AND USE THEM IF THEY WANT TO. SO IF THEY WERE COMING STRAIGHT FROM WORK, AND THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE POOL, THEY COULD JUST GO STRAIGHT OVER THERE, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME USE OF THE AMENITIES. AND I KNOW THERE WASN'T MENTIONED ABOUT THE FENCE IN BETWEEN. SO BEYOND THIS FURTHEST WEST LOT. THEY ARE PROPOSING THE MASONRY COLUMNS WITH THE 5. FT, UM. I GUESS IT'S METAL FENCING, OPEN FENCING WITH THE LANDSCAPING. I KNOW SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED ABOUT. MAYBE MAKING IT 8 FT FENCE. I MEAN, IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE TWO. BUT I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE AND THE WORK SESSION AND HERE ARE THE ELEVATION SO YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE FOUR PLEXUS. THEY HAVE THE GARAGE AND THE BACK AND THEN I'LL WALK UP AREA IN THE FRONT. 
          AND THEN ON THE ONE SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE WILL BE TWO HOMES SO WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE DUPLEXES NEXT TO THEM. BUT THESE ARE TWO STORIES AND I KNOW THOSE ARE ONE. THEY'RE MORE OF LIKE THE RANCH. LAYOUT NOW AND SO THESE ARE THESE ARE GOING TO BE TWO STORIES TALL. AND WE DO MEET ALL OF THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS . THEY'RE BUILDING REQUIREMENT ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, SO THE DEVIATIONS ARE REALLY MOSTLY FOR THE SETBACKS AND FOR THE LANDSCAPING SOMEWHAT BASED ON THE EXISTING UTILITIES, BUT ALSO JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT PUSH LIKE THE DOOR CLOSER TO THE STREET. 
          MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE. I KNOW IT WAS THE BIG THING NOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL HAVE IT DOWN TOWN, SO AND THIS IS A THE DRAPER PROJECTS ARE GREAT CATALYST PROJECT. I KNOW GOING ON DOWN HERE. SO YES, THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION NOTES PRETTY SHORT . BUT IF I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN 
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ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE HAVE LOTS OF MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM HERE, TOO, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. MR CHAIRMAN AND SHE GIVE HER NAME AND ADDRESS. GOSH NO IDEA BEGINNING? NO I DON'T THINK SO. SO SORRY. AMY MATTHEWS FOR THE KITCHEN THAT 2201 MAIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? OKAY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. OH, AND STAFF DID GET BACK WITH ME IN A 5 FT FENCE IS WELL IS WITHIN THE CDC GUIDELINES. SO OKAY, THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. AND THEY ANSWERED THAT FOR ME. ALL RIGHT, GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. SEE NONE. THANK YOU. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE NOT ANSWER? WE SHOULD SPEAK IN THIS ITEM. I SEE NONE. COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION MOTION. COMMISSIONER DALTON I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. I. THE COMPANY I WORK FOR RECENTLY PURCHASED A BUILDING CLOSE BY AND I DRIVE BY THIS LOCATION. COMING HERE AS A MATTER OF FACT, AND THIS IS GOING I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE IMPROVEMENT TO THAT PARTICULAR. 
          STREETSCAPE AT THAT TIME, SO THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND SINCE I HAVE DELAYED HEARING IN MY LEFT HAND SIDE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS IS TIME. 
          AND THAT IS TO APPROVE ITEMS. TWO A. AND TWO B. THE CHANGE IN THE P D AND THE DETAILED PLAN. 
          FOR A FOUR B. I'LL GET THAT RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CROSS THAT NUMBER TWO. HERE WE GO. PLEASE VOTE. IN THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM AGAIN 
          [Items 4C - 4E]
IS A TWO PARTER. FOUR C CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF ROBERT NOONAN'S ALCHEMY DESIGN GROUP REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CHANGING ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, 69-31 TO COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1910, PENDLETON, DRIVE AND ITEM FOUR D CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION . ROBERT NUNES ALCHEMY DESIGN GROUP, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A WAREHOUSE. ARE FOR SHOWROOM. INDOORS. ONLY THIS PROPERTY AGAIN 1910 PENDLETON DRIVE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A CARD FROM THE APPLICANT HERE IS THE APPLICANT HERE. BACK DOWN, OKAY? UH I'LL ASK THE COMMISSION ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE. UNLESS YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND SAY SOMETHING. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. ALRIGHTY I THINK THERE'S A THIRD PART TO THIS ONE E. E. YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE 1ST 3RD PART OF HAD IN A WHILE FOR E CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION ROBERT NUNES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF PLAN FOR A WAREHOUSE FOR SURE ROOM. SO WE HAVE CHANGING ZONING AND S U P AND A PLAN FOR OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE. THANK YOU, SIR. ARE THERE. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER. 
          ROBIN. HMM. OKAY. I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SORRY, COMMISSIONER. UM WELL, COME ON DOWN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH BRING THE CARD. I JUST NOW GOT IT. THANK YOU. NAME IS ROBERT NUNEZ WITH ALCHEMY. THE WRONG PARTNERS LIVE AT 5 13 MULBERRY LANE IN THE SOTO, TEXAS. THANK YOU, SIR. LIKE MY QUESTION WAS UM. INDICATES OFFICE SHOWROOM. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY RETAIL SALE HERE OR IS THAT IS THIS JUST PURELY? VERY MINIMAL. UH MOST OF THE CELLS WILL BE DONE THROUGH ONLINE AND, UH, THE MAIN REASON FOR THE SHOWROOM ASPECT OF THIS IS SO THAT CUSTOMERS CAN COME IN. ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE PRODUCTS, THE CELLPHONE, THE USE CELLPHONES THAT HE'S PLANNING ON SELLING. AND, UM THE WAY HE TELLS ME THIS MORE THAN LIKELY ALL HIS CELLS WILL BE DONE ONLINE AND PEOPLE WILL BUY IT THROUGH WHOLESALE, BUT THE OFFICIAL ROOM WHOLESALE HAS A 5% OR 10% RETAIL AS COMPONENT THAT YOU CAN HAVE UM, BUT HE DID SAY THAT HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT HE WILL HAVE ANYBODY REALLY BUYING RETAIL, BUT YEAH, BUT IT'S AVAILABLE. SOMEBODY WANTS AVAILABLE? YEAH VERY MINIMAL CELL PHONE DOWN. AND, YEAH, IT'S VERY MINIMAL PART. IT'S WHOLESALE ONLINE. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
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COMMISSION, DALTON. I BELIEVE IN THE PRE MEETING SOMETHING WAS SAID ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE S U P THAT TRYING TO CLARIFY EXACTLY HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO BE DUE TO THE FACT THEY'RE THINKING AND POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT ALONG LBJ WANTS THE PROJECT'S FINISHED. YES SIR. COMMISSIONER YEAH, THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY, AND HE CAN COURSE CONFIRMED BUT REQUESTED FIVE YEARS, BUT STAFF DID NOTE THAT WE CONCUR WITH A SHORTER S U P TIME PERIODS SUCH AS FIVE YEARS JUST GIVEN SOME FUTURE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THAT 6 35 CORRIDORS THAT WAS KIND OF IN LINE WITH OUR PREFERENCE AS WELL. THANK YOU. UH WE REQUESTED FIVE YEARS. UH, THIS WAS PURELY ON CLIENT'S REQUESTS. UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S THE. 23 AND FIVE YEAR REQUESTS, BUT SO TO ME JUST EVERY TWO YEARS I CAN COME BACK TO, YOU KNOW. WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU AGAIN HERE. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU MOTHER QUESTIONS WITH THE APPLICANT. YOU SEE? NONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM. SEE NONE. COMMISSIONER OPEN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, UH, LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING INTO APPROVE ITEMS FOR C, D AND E, INCLUDING WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SPECIFIC YOUTH PRECISION PROVISIONS WITH THE LENGTH OF FIVE YEARS. OKAY EMOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALVIN TO PROVE ITEM FOUR. SEE THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR DO THIS SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR FIVE YEARS AND E. THE PLAN FOR THE WAREHOUSE SHOWROOM, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. ROSE ROSE, OKAY. I'LL GET I'LL GET THESE HEARING AIDS TUNED UP. 
          ALREADY HAVE EMOTION. ANY DISCUSSION PLEASE LOOK. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          GOOD LUCK. ALL RIGHT. SHOULD WE JUST LEAVE NOW OR NO, OKAY. COMING DOWN. YEAH YEAH. ISN'T THERE A BALL GAME ON TONIGHT? WE CAN GO WIDE. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TEASE, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL 
          [Items 4F & 4G]
BEING HERE REALLY DO CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM. FOUR OF CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION ASPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MULTI FAMILY TO USES. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 413 AND 505 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND 510 CANDLEWOOD LANE AND ITEM. 
          FOR G. CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE SAME PROPERTY. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, JOSHUA O'CONNELL. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS SCOTT DERRINGER ADDRESSES. 3500 MAPLE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. WRONG NAME? YEAH. YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF? OH YEAH, AND INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'LL LET SCOTT GO FIRST . MY NAME IS MARK EWING ADDRESS . 104 FOREST. ELAINE IN MCKINNEY , TEXAS. ZIP CODE OF 75069, THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU THAT. YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY UH, LITTLE LITTLE HISTORY ON THE PROJECT. WE INITIALLY PUT THE PROJECT UNDER CONTRACT FEW YEARS AGO, PANDEMIC HAPPENED, CANCEL THE CONTRACT AND THEN CAME BACK TO IT. ONCE EVERYBODY STARTED LEAVING THEIR HOUSES AND LIFE GOT BACK TO NORMAL. WE FIRST LOOKED AT THE PROJECT. WE THOUGHT OF IT AS A EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS STARTED BEGINNING PLANS DESIGNED AND ALONG THAT PROCESS, AS WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SEVERAL TIMES IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. CITY ASKED US TO COME AND SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS, POSSIBLY DOING A DIFFERENT USE OF THE CITY DIDN'T FORESEE A HOTEL BEING THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THE SITE. SO THAT BEING CONSIDERED THE CITY OF SUGGESTED THAT WE THINK OF APARTMENTS ON SITE, SO WE WENT IN AND STARTED TO ADDRESS DOING THIS MANY APARTMENTS AS WE COULD ON THE SITE AND DESIGNING THAT PLAN THAT BROUGHT IT UP TO JUST UNDER 400 UNITS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO ON THE SITE. WE DID THINK THAT WAS A BIT OVER THE TOP TO PUT A SIX STORY PODIUM STYLE OR A RAP PRODUCT ON THE ON SITE COSTS. CONSTRUCTION HAVE BEEN TOO HIGH IN THAT, IN OUR OPINION WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR GARLAND. SO WE DID ORIENTATE THE BUILDING. ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE PLANS HERE. SO WE SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE ARE TWO L SHAPED BUILDINGS , WHICH ARE ACTUALLY NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT USE. THE MOST EFFICIENT USE WOULD HAVE BEEN A DO A STRAIGHT RUN BUILDING ACROSS THE BACK, BUT WE FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE TOO TWO ARTERIES TO THE NEIGHBORS. IT WOULD BE TOO IMPACTFUL TO BE 
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OVER LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THEIR BACKYARD. SO WE ORIENTATED THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU'RE STEAMING INSIDE YOUR APARTMENT, AND NOT THAT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN APARTMENT JUST STANDS OUT THEIR WINDOW EVERY DAY AND LOOKS AT THEIR NEIGHBOR. THEY'VE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO WITH HER LIFE. BUT IF THEY WERE TO LOOK OUT THE BUILDING AND THEY WOULD LOOK INTO OUR PARKING LOT VERSUS LOOKING INTO IT THAT DRAMATICALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE COULD PUT ON SITE. BUT WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE BEST THING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS. WE ALSO WENT ALONG AND DESIGNED THE LANDSCAPING IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD PUT A BUFFER ALONG THERE TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING DOES SIT OUTSIDE OF THE 50 FT SETBACK , SO IT IS WITHIN THAT REQUIRED 50 FT SETBACK, WHICH, WITH THE SIGHTLINE VIEW FOR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE BUILDING FROM THEIR BACKYARD. THERE ARE A FEW NEIGHBORS WHERE WE DO IMPACT THEM. SO THAT'S WHY WE SUGGESTED PUTTING IN A STONE WALL, WHICH IS ABOVE THE FENCE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED. WE ALSO AS DISCUSSIONS CAME UP BECAUSE WE DID SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORS DISCUSS STUFF WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS WERE DISCUSSING GOT IDEAS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE DESIGN AND OVERALL PROJECT THAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT, I THINK, ORIGINALLY ADDRESS THE QUESTION ON 8 FT FENCE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT IN THAT 8 FT PRIVACY WALL THERE THE IDEAS THAT WOULD BE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS OR BRICK PATTERN OR STONE PATTERN TO MAKE IT, UH, IS PRETTY AS WE CAN MAKE IT FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND THEN ALSO TRY TO DESIGN THE LANDSCAPING TO WHERE THEY WOULD BE AS MUCH PRIVACY AS OR POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE NEIGHBORS. SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH WITH MAKING A SITE THAT'S ECONOMICALLY VIABLE IF THE NUMBER OF UNITS DROPS DOWN TOO MUCH LOWER THAN YOU CAN'T HAVE FULL TIME ON SITE MANAGEMENT, AND WE WOULD BE IN DELIVERING THE LOWER CLASS PRODUCT, WHICH WAS IN OUR GOAL FOR THE MARKET. WE HAVE AMENITIES IN THERE LIKE A FITNESS CENTER. WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXTRAS IN THE SITE THAT MAKES IT MORE OF A CLASS A MARKET RATE APARTMENT COMPLEX. WHICH WE FEEL IS IN DESIGN WITH YOU. OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF WHAT THE CENTERVILLE MARKETPLACE MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR. I KNOW THAT THE CITY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS AREA REDEVELOPED AND BRING IN SOME MORE NEW RETAIL. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX DELIVERED IN THIS AREA FOR 40 YEARS, SO IT'S JUST THERE . THE BUILDINGS THERE ARE MORE NOW CLASS B OR CLASS C OR EVEN CLASS D PRODUCT. WE FEEL LIKE THIS WILL DEFINITELY BE A VALUE ADD FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT BRINGING THE COMMUNITY DOWN. AND ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WE ARE ZONED BY, RIGHT THE CRAZY THING THAT WE CAN PUT A HOTEL THERE. WE COULD PUT AN OFFICE BUILDING WHERE THERE'S NO HEIGHT RESTRICTION. WE COULD PUT A 30 STORY OFFICE BUILDING. THEY'RE NOT THAT WE WANT TO, BUT THAT THESE ARE THINGS AND USES THAT COULD GO THERE. THERE'S A IN THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN DO A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ON THE SITE LIKE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. ALL OF THESE GREATLY IMPACT THE SITE AND WE GREATLY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS REALLY MORE OF A DOWN ZONING. IT'S A LESSER USE, AND I DON'T SEE HOW PUTTING THREE OR FOUR FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND ALL THE TRAFFIC AND HASSLE AND GARBAGE AND DRIVE THROUGH NOISE THAT THAT WOULD BRING WOULD BE ANY BETTER THAN DOING MULTI FAMILY. MULTI FAMILY, IN MY OPINION, IS THE LEAST IMPACTFUL TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN. IT'S CERTAINLY BETTER THAN THE ABANDONED BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST 5 TO 7 YEARS. 
          IT'S A CONSTANT HASSLE, WITH THE POLICE SHOWING UP VAGRANTS LIVED THERE. IT'S A FIRE HAZARD ISSUE. 
          THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE SITE, SO WE ACTUALLY TRIED TO DESIGN IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. LEAST IMPACTED THE NEIGHBORS. BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE BUILT ON THIS SIDE EVENTUALLY, AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE BEST USE. 
          SO WITH THAT I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER ROSE IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL WHAT'S YOUR TIMING? YOU'RE GOING TO START RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE GONNA START IN THE YEAR. WHAT? RIGHT AWAY. AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVAL, WILL FINALIZE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN AND THEN PULL THE PERMIT AND IT WOULD BE OUR GOLD. ACTUALLY WE WANT TO DEMO THE BUILDING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. SO WE PROBABLY ACTUALLY APPLY FOR AN EARLY GRADING PERMIT TO SEE IF WE CAN DEMO THE BUILDING. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU. UH HUH. AS A TRAFFIC STUDY BEEN DONE IS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THIS DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ENGINEERS HAVE WORKED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY, AND THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BE NECESSARY. BUT DO YOU SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK? IT WASN'T NECESSARILY WHENEVER WE WORKED WITH HENRY WITH TRAFFIC, THE G D C AND THE T S M THE THRESHOLD THAT OUR PROJECT NEEDS BECAUSE IT IS 177 UNITS DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEET THE 100 VEHICLES PER DAY OR NO 100 VEHICLES PER HOUR THAT THE TSN REQUIRES. AND SO WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, THEY DIDN'T DEEM ONE REQUIRED WITH THIS PROJECT. JUST TO CLARIFY. YEAH OK. YEAH. WHAT WHAT, THE ENGINEER SAID. UM. YOU MENTIONED NEARBY APARTMENTS. I BELIEVE THERE IS A NEARBY APARTMENT BEGINNING UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW OVER BY THE WALMART. CORRECT? YES. SO YOU WOULD BE THE SECOND IN THAT GENERAL AREA, CORRECT? OKAY. 
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD SHOW KIND OF WHAT THE SIGHTLINES ARE. I KNOW IN SOME PRIVATE PRIOR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN TALKED THAT YOU WERE YOU WERE CONSIDERING PUTTING SOME UM ARCHITECTURAL CARPORTS ALONG THE BACK. YOU'RE GONNA GET STUFF LIKE THAT TO KIND OF HELP WITH SOME OF THE SIGHTLINES. YEAH WE ACTUALLY HAD A VIDEO. THIS IS IT PLAYING HERE SHOWING A THREE DIMENSIONAL FLY AROUND OF THE PROJECT. GIVE EVERYBODY AN IDEA OF THE VISIBILITY GOING INTO EVERYONE'S YARD. JUST PLAY THIS FOR YOU AND LET YOU TAKE A LOOK. IT EVEN HAS MUSIC. HMM. WE ALSO SOMETHING YOU MIGHT TAKE A LOOK OUT FOR IS WE DO PUT THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS ON IN EACH SECTION. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN GET AN ORIENTATION OF WHERE YOU ARE IN THE OVERALL SITE. 
          ONE THING THAT I MIGHT ALSO KNOW IS THAT WE TRIED TO ORIENTATE THE NEIGHBOR'S TREES INTO TO KIND OF GIVE A REAL VIEW OF THE VEGETATION OF WHAT'S CURRENT, BUT WE ALSO OFFERED THE NEIGHBORS AT $1200 LANDSCAPING CREDIT THAT THEY COULD USE TO PLANT VEGETATION ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT WOULD HELP. BEAUTIFY THAT FENCE LINE. IS IT THIS WITH A 6? FT FENCE IS THE VISUAL HERE, CORRECT? MAYBE A LITTLE BIT. IT'S OBVIOUSLY THAT THE STONE WALL AND IT WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF PRIVACY WITH THE WITH THE STONE WALL IN THERE. 
          SO WAS IT DETERMINATION THAT THAT I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSION BACK WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. UM ABOUT PUTTING IN A ABOUT HAVING CARPORTS THAT HAD UP. YES ACTUALLY NOT SEE THE BUILDINGS AT ALL. I'M JUST WONDERING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ON THE INITIAL PLAN WE HAD DESIGNED ON THERE. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR COVERED PARKING IN GARLAND ANYMORE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID SAY WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE WOULD SIT DOWN AND ORIENTATE COVERED PARKING, SO THERE'D BE A PITCHED ROOF SO IT WOULD ALMOST LOOK LIKE YOUR NEIGHBOR'S GARAGE. WAS BACK THERE, WHICH ALSO WOULD HELP BLOCK ANY KIND OF SIGHTLINE VIEWS OF THE BUILDING. THE PHOTO METRIC PLAN WAS DONE WHERE THERE'S NO CANDLE. IT'S THAT DEFENSE LINES SO EVERYTHING IS IN THE PARKING LOT. WE HAVE TRULY TRIED TO GO AROUND IN DETAIL OUT IN NIT PICK A WAY TO MAKE IT AT LEAST IMPACTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS AS POSSIBLE. SO YES, WE STILL BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH EACH NEIGHBOR AND IN SPACE THAT OUT. TO BE ABLE TO LAUGH FOR THAT, OKAY? UM WITH RESPECT TO THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDINGS. ARE THERE ANY I CAN'T QUITE TELL FROM FROM WHAT WE HAVE. ARE THERE ANY IS THERE ANY BALCONIES OR ANYTHING THAT ARE FACING THESE PROPERTY THAT ARE FACING BACK TOWARDS CANDLEWOOD? THERE? THERE'S ONE SIDE THAT DOES A LITTLE LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS THE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE'S NO BALCONIES THERE ALL THE BALCONIES AND MOST OF THE WINDOWS LOOK ON THE INTERIOR. HERE'S THESE ELEVATIONS TOO. SO THERE THERE WE INTENTIONALLY DID NO BALCONIES ON THE SIDE THAT WOULD HAVE ANY KIND OF YOU TO THE PROPERTY. BUT WE ORIENTATED 90% OF THE UNITS TO LOOK INTERIOR. SO THOSE WERE THOSE BALCONIES ARE YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO WALK OUT ON YOUR BALCONY, LEAN OVER THE RAILING TO TRY TO SEE AROUND THE CORNER TO BE ABLE 
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TO VIEW THE NEIGHBOR. NOT THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE SOME WHO TRIED, BUT YEAH, LESS LIKELY. 
          ALWAYS SOMEBODY. OKAY THANK YOU . THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE OF THEM IS STAFF LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. I THINK THE PROPERTY LINE IS SO HEAVY. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE TREES, HE SHOWED. ALONG THE FENCE, BUT THERE'S WHAT 2 3 FT THERE FOR THOSE RIGHT? THAT WAS A CONCERN OF OURS AS WELL, UM, THAT THE SHRUBS JUST BASED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ALONE LOOKED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE LOW LEVEL AND BASED ON THE THREE D VIDEO THAT MAYBE THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER LEVELS. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM. IS KIND OF ADHERING TO THAT. PERHAPS NELLIE STEVENS OR CHERRY LAUREL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM THAT ADHERES TO KIND OF THAT INTENSE, SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MEASUREMENT IF IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN MAYBE MORE LIKE FOUR OR 5 6 FT. OR SO, UM, THE ENGINEER MAY BE ABLE TO, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A WALL THERE. THERE WILL BE A FOOTING IN A FOUNDATION AND YOU'VE GOT THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THE ROOTS TO GRAB WATER FROM AND EVERYTHING UNLESS IT'S UNDERGROUND, IRRIGATED AND EVERYTHING. HOW LONG WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE FOR THOSE TREES TO GET THAT HIGH TO WHERE THEY'RE 3 4 FT OVER THE FENCE. WE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH GETTING THE FINAL DETAILS OF EACH TYPE OF TREE TO SEE HOW QUICKLY WE WOULD DO IT, BUT WE WILL BUY MATURE TREES FOR THOSE AREAS AND WE TALKED BRIEFLY, AND I MENTIONED THAT DEVELOPMENT ALONG CENTERVILLE UP JUST A LITTLE WAYS FROM HERE. WHERE THEY PUT IN RIGHT IRON FENCE, AND THEY PUT IN THESE LITTLE ITTY BITTY SHRUBS AT ALL DIED. AND SO IF THE TRIBES DON'T GET OVER THAT FENCE, THERE WON'T DO ANY GOOD PLANTING ONE GALLON BUCKETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND LET ME ASK STAFF ANOTHER QUESTION HERE. SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO GO WITH A CARPORT? WOULD WE HAVE TO GRANT THEM ANY KIND OF DEVIATION TO LAND TO BUILD IT? BEYOND THE BUILDING LINE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. MY MOST LIKELY WOULD, UM, ENCROACHING THE SETBACK, BUT THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THE PD. THEY WOULD JUST BE CALLED OUT THAT THE CARPORTS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE WITHIN THAT STEP BACK AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE SCREENING TO SAY THAT THE TREASURY WOULD THAT BE WORTH OUR WHILE. IF EMOTION IS MADE TO APPROVE TO INCLUDE IT ALLOWED DEVIATION, OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING? RATHER GET TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK IF. IF THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IT AS I THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE, UM PARKING SPACES CLOSEST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO IT PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT IT MOST LIKELY BE WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK, BUT IT CERTAINLY OKAY, SO THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL THERE. OKAY, ALREADY. OKAY THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. ANY OTHER. GREAT. COMMISSIONER ROBIN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THERE YOU GO. SOMETIMES I FORGET THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE SO LOOKING AT THE, UM THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AND YOU HAVE THAT AREA THAT THAT, UM. CONNECTS TO CANDLE OR ABOUT CIRQUE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT CONNECTS THROUGH THE CANDLEWOOD. BUT THERE'S PARKING LIKE THIS PARKING THERE. FULL SCREEN VIEW SO WE CAN SEE OKAY? SORRY WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? SORRY I'VE DONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. 
          THIS SINGLE FAMILY THAT WHAT IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA UP HERE IN THE NORTHERN? YEAH, IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF LIKE AN INTRUSION INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE MADE THAT JUST PURELY PARKING, AND THERE'S A DOG WALKING AREA ON THE ISLAND THERE, SO IT'S SOMETHING TO ME. THERE'S I BELIEVE 15 16 PARKING SPACES IN THAT AREA. INTO THAT'S MOSTLY TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. YES, SIR. THERE'S NO ACCESS THROUGH THERE. THERE'S NO GATE. 
          THERE'S NO ANYTHING OKAY? AND THEN THE ACCESS. ORIGINALLY IT WAS DESIGNED THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ACCESS FLOW THROUGH HERE, BUT WE GOT THE BLESSING OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IF WE HAD AN OX BOX ENTRANCE THERE THAT WE COULD CLOSE THIS OFF, SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN IMPROVEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS CONDITION WHERE CARS WERE COMING IN OUT OF HERE. I KNOW THIS IS A SENSITIVE AREA NOW BECAUSE KIDS COME IN THERE AND DO DONUTS AND THEN COME RACING OUT OF THE PARKING LOT, SO IT'S A IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN FOR SURE. SO THERE IS AN OX BOX. IS THERE AN OX BOX RIGHT THERE ON THE CANDLEWOOD. ON THIS SIDE. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OVER HERE. WHERE THIS DRIVE ALL USED TO COME THROUGH. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I MEAN, IT'S AN OPEN DRIVEWAY. NOW CHADWELL. THE INTENT WOULD BE TO GET THAT OFF AND MAKE IT EMERGENCY ACCESS. 
          ONLY OKAY. I GOT YOU. BUT OVER ON CANDLEWOOD, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO UNDERWOOD WHATSOEVER. OKAY? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. NO FURTHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DALTON. 100% OF THE ACCESSES FROM CENTERVILLE. CORRECT. THANK YOU. YEAH HAVE YOU TRIED PULLING OUT INTO CENTERVILLE? YES I HAVE DROVE. I DROVE DOWN THERE TODAY DROVE ALL AROUND EXISTING BUILDING AND YES, SOMETHING 
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NEEDS TO BE DONE DOWN THERE FOR BUT WE AND WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE BUILD A BUILDING HERE ARE TENANTS WILL BE PULLING OUT, TOO. I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OVERALL TRAFFIC CONCERN TO THAT SET OF TOWN. IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, AND I TOLD THE NEIGHBORS THAT I WOULD INTO ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY EFFORT TO REDUCE SPEEDS, SPEED BOMBS, YOU KNOW, POLICE AND WHATEVER CAN BE DONE TO TRY TO MINIMIZE IT. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSION ROBIN BACK TO YOU PONG IN THE QUEUE ON STUFF LIKE THIS. THIS THING RANDOMLY POP INTO MY HEAD. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WITH WITH FOUR STORIES. IS THERE GOING TO BE ELEVATOR ACCESS ELEVATOR ACCESS? YES THERE WILL BE ELEVATORS FROM THE FIRST FLOOR UP, OKAY? AND THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT UP ABOUT THE HEIGHT LIMIT AND BEING A 59 FT VERSUS 50 FT. WE COULD ACTUALLY MEET THE 50 FT REQUIREMENT IF WE MADE IT A FLAT ROOF, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WE MODEL THE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT DOWN A GARLAND ROAD BY THE ARBORETUM. IT'S A VERY KIND OF FARMHOUSE LOOK, AND WE FELT LIKE THAT THAT STEEP PITCHED GABLE WOULD MAKE SOMETHING MORE ATTRACTIVE. AFTER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK WITH THE ARCHITECT AND KIND OF REDESIGNED THE ELEVATIONS TO TRY TO ADD. LITTLE PITCHES AND GABLES AND TRY TO SOFTEN IT AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO TRY TO SOFTEN UP THAT THAT IMAGE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH PLANNING THAT WE WOULD NEVER REASON THAT WE HAD OVER THE HEIGHTS REQUIREMENT OF 50 FT WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE GABLE ROOFS. SO IT WAS. IT WAS WITH THE MEANING THAT A GOOD OVERALL DESIGN THANK YOU. COMMISSION AROSE. YOU. CONSIDERED. UH OFFERING TO THE CITY THAT YOU WOULD IN. AT YOUR ENTRANCE SO YOU COULD CONTROL THE TRAFFIC. WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THAT, WOULD YOU? I WOULD TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT ANYTHING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD EVEN BE APPROPRIATE OR ANYTHING. WE JUST NO ONE'S EVER BROUGHT THAT UP UNTIL JUST NOW, SO I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT SO I'D BE OPEN TO THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR IT SO THAT IF THEY APPROVED THE YOU'D ALL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. YEAH, I WOULD BE WILLING TO OBVIOUSLY DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I IMAGINE YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP AFTER WE HEAR FROM A FEW FOLKS, I IMAGINE SO OKAY? THESE ARE IN RANDOM ORDER. UH, CAROL ROBERTS. AND YOUR NAME ISN'T FIRST, BECAUSE THAT'S MY NAME. THAT'S JUST HOW I GOT IT. HI. MY NAME IS CAROL ROBERTS. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF LOST MARIPOSA TOWN HOMES AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE H O A. THERE. UM WE ARE HIGHLY OPPOSED TO THIS, UH MANY, MANY REASONS. UH TRAFFIC HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. WE WOULD ASK THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY BE DONE BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT CAN THAT CENTERVILLE CAN HOLD THIS AND SUPPORT THIS TOWN. THIS UH, APARTMENT BEING THERE, UM, THE CRIME RATES GOING TO GO UP. WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEM WITH THE WATER PRESSURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN'T WATER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL AT THE SAME TIME. WE HAVE TO DO IT HERE. 
          THERE WHATEVER. WE HAVE PEOPLE HAVING WATER BACKUPS. I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE A FOUR STORY BUILDING AT ALL. UM ONE LADY AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING BROUGHT UP THE POWER GRID. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT GRID. SO THAT'S ALSO A CONCERN. WE AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOT ONE NOTICE. ABOUT THE THESE MEETINGS. LIKE THREE DAYS BEFORE THE TOWN HALL MEETING LAST WEEK. ON TUESDAY, UM AND IT WENT TO THE CLUBHOUSE, NOT ONE HOUSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOTIFIED AT ALL. WE NOTIFIED ALL OF THEM. UM AND WE HAVE ALL MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE ONLINE AND SENDING THINGS I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S COUNTED OR NOT, IF THAT WAS IN THAT NOTICE OR NOT. UM WE DON'T LIKE THAT THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT OUR BACKYARDS. THERE'S NO TREES ON OUR SIDE. THERE'S JUST CENTERVILLE. WE DO HAVE OUR OWN WALL THERE ON CENTERVILLE. FOR WHAT? WHEN WE WERE BUILT FOR OUR PRIVACY AND SOUND BARRIERS AND STUFF, BUT THERE WAS NEVER A FOUR STORY BUILDING. THERE STILL UM WE HAVE BROUGHT IT HIT THEM BUILDING TOWN HOMES AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING AND LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE WERE LIKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND, WE WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, AND WE WERE FLAT OUT TOLD WE CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON THAT. WE'LL GO BANKRUPT. NO. WE'VE PROPOSED OTHER THINGS AND NO. UM IN A VERY RUDE MANNER. UM, THEY SAID IT'S NOT PROFITABLE. BUT WE MATTER WE AREN'T PROFIT. WE'RE PEOPLE. IN OUR COMMUNITIES DO 
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MATTER. UM WE DON'T WANT A 30 STORY BUILDING. AS A COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO STAY SUBURBAN. 
          WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE URBANIZED. WE WANT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE NEW CITY, THE BIG CITY. WE LIKE OUR SMALL TOWN FEEL. AND THERE. UM, I JUST THINK THAT IF THEY BOUGHT IT WITH THOSE RULES BUILD SOMETHING WITHIN THOSE RULES THAT FITS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. I'M SORRY , MR CHAIR. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS SORRY. DID 21 VALLEY PARK DRIVE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALREADY MARINE OF AL DIVA RIAZ RAISE OH, I DO HAVE A MASTERS AND MISPRONOUNCING NAMES SO AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS DID RECEIVE COPIES FOR YOUR EMAIL AND PHYSICAL COPIES OF ALL THE RESPONSES, SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT. HI MY NAME IS MAUREEN BARNEY VIA 11 5 13 CANDLELIT LANE. HMM. SHE BASICALLY SEVERAL BE OVERTHINKING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. TRAFFIC ABERRATIONS. THE LEFT. AND. MOSTLY OUR COMMUNITY JUST WANTS SOMETHING ELSE THAN APARTMENT PROBABLY MAKE. WE CAN TRY AND MAKE AN AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING ELSE AND JUST. OUR SAFETY. OUR LIKE. FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE NEIGHBORS LIKE I LIVE IN FRONT OF MY NEIGHBOR. SHE'S GONNA GET HER AREA INVADED BECAUSE OF THE APARTMENT. 
          PROBABLY BECAUSE OF PROBABLY HER SAFETY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT JUST WORRYING ABOUT OUR AREA OF JUST THINK. OKAY? THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, OKAY? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOOD, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE. SORRY GO AHEAD. UM PEOPLE DO LIVE IN THE APARTMENT. HOW MANY , UH, LIMIT OVER THE CARS WOULD BE THERE BE THERE. AND. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION OF LIKE TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC WISE. YEAH UM, I DON'T THINK OUR G D C LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT CAN BE THERE. BUT LIKE CALCULATES PARKING ON TYPICAL. APARTMENT USES AND EVERYTHING. THERE'S SO MANY PER BEDROOM AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE TO WORK OFF OF THAT THE STANDARD TRAFFIC COUNCIL. SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER. THANK YOU. KATHY JOHNSON. AND THEN UP AFTER KATHY WILL BE LESTER, EMORY. WE'LL DO AN LIKE IN BASEBALL UP IN THE ON DECK PLATE THERE. WHICH I LEARNED FROM YOU. MY NAME IS KATHY JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 5 14 CANDLEWOOD. YOU HAD A PICTURE OF MY HOME. IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS, UM MY DRIVEWAY? MM HMM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TRAFFIC SURVEY THAT WAS DONE AS A WHOLE. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A NEW SITE AT 66 IN CENTERVILLE, KINGSLEY AND CENTERVILLE. AND NOW THIS ONE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY DO TRAFFIC SURVEYS, THEY DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, INSTEAD OF TAKING HIM AS A WHOLE. I REALLY THINK BY DRIVING DOWN CENTERVILLE IT'S A THOROUGHFARE FROM FIRE WHEEL STRAIGHT TO 6, 35 AND BACK AND I CAN CERTAINLY I'M ONE OF THEM. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET ON THE TOLLWAY AND GO AWAY AROUND IN ORDER TO GET TO 6 35, NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE. UM TRYING TO GET ACCESS FROM CENTERVILLE AND KEEL. 26 35 WE SIT THROUGH MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE LIGHTS TRYING TO GET UP THERE AND THEN PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING AROUND US AND CUTTING US OFF. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. AND I CAN'T FORESEE THIS. GETTING CHANGED ANYTIME SOON. THE UTILITIES BEHIND OUR HOUSE, AND I LIVE RIGHT DIRECTLY BEHIND THE NURSING HOME. UM, THEY'RE NOT BURIED. THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT BURIED. AND I THINK THAT WHATEVER GOES IN BACK THERE, IT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE UTILITIES BURIED. SO THE WHOLE AREA DOESN'T HAVE BIG ELECTRICAL POLES AND ALL THESE THINGS HANGING DOWN. UM THE SETBACK ON THE FENCE OF THE LOT 
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THAT IS BETWEEN 5 13 AND 5 14 CANDLEWOOD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM THAT'S WHERE I BACK OUT TO GET TO THE STREET. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR SIDE THERE WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THESE PICTURES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS GOING TO BE. AND I'M WONDERING, SHOULDN'T IT NOT BE SET BACK AS FAR AS OUR HOMES ARE ON CENTERVILLE? WE HAD RESTRICTIONS WHEN HE HAD WHEN WE HAD OUR HOMES BUILT ON HOW FAR BACK OUR HOUSE HAD TO BE, AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS FENCE NEEDS TO BE BACK THERE AS WELL. UM, I WAS TOLD. OH, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO KNOW THERE'S A PARKING LOT THERE WHEN WE PUT UP THIS FENCE. WELL I'M SORRY, BUT I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY AND YES, WE DO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A FENCE THERE. UM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE TOWN HOMES OR CONDOS BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY BY END TO THEIR PROPERTY. THEY CARE ABOUT IT. THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. THEY'RE NOT RENTALS. THEY DON'T GO IN THERE AND SAY OH, I'VE GOT A LEASE FOR A YEAR AND SCREW THIS AND I'M OUT OF HERE. THEY WOULD HAVE AN H O A OR SOME FORM OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE BY. THEY DO THAT, AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE YOUR TAX BASE. AND IT WOULDN'T BE A FOUR STORY EYESORE. I THINK FOUR STORIES IS WAY HIGH. WE DON'T HAVE FOUR STORIES ANYWHERE AROUND US. THE CHASE BANK IS THE CLOSEST ON BROADWAY AND IT'S FIVE IF YOU COULD SUM UP, PLEASE. NO PROBLEM. COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN A REAL ISSUE HERE, AND I'VE BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTED. WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO BE NOTIFIED. UM BUT WE WERE NOT , AND WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR SECOND. UM MEETING PER SE. THE FIRST MEETING WAS REALLY NOT ABOUT OUR SITUATION, AND WE HAD TO FORCE EVERYBODY TO HAVE A SECOND MEETING AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VERY POORLY OF GARLAND. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. LESTER EMERY AND THEN OK, MA'AM. UH, EXCUSE ME. MISS JOHNSON. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. SORRY, I FORGOT TO LOOK GENERAL QUESTION. NOT NECESSARILY WITH PERSPECTIVE. 
          YOU BRING UP 6 35 LBJ THAT WILL BE DONE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN MAYBE 100 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT IT WILL BE DONE EVENTUALLY AND WHEN IT IS DONE THE TRAFFIC WILL MOVE A LOT SMOOTHER. SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT YOU DON'T. PLEASE. PLEASE. AND THE QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT NOTIFICATION AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOTIFICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER OR WITH THE CITY, BUT THE CITY FOLLOWS THE STATE RULES. WE ACTUALLY GO BEYOND THE STATE RULES. STATE RULES REQUIRE THAT THEY NOTIFY WITHIN 200 FT OF THE PROPERTY CITY GOES TO 400 FT NOTIFICATION AND THEY SENT HIM OUT AS SOON AS THEY CAN ONCE THE APPLICATION. IS FINALIZED. AND WE DON'T EVEN GET TO SEE IT UNTIL OUR REPORT OR ANYTHING UNTIL THE SAME TIME YOU DO, WHICH IS LIKE LAST THURSDAY, SO THEY FOLLOW ALL STATE LAWS AND ONE WOULD THIS GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL? UH THAT WOULD BE JUNE 20TH. JUNE JUNE 20TH SO UM THERE'S TIME FOR MORE MEETINGS, AND EVERYTHING IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO MR EMERY. AND THEN AFTER HIM, MARGARET ANDERSON I DON'T THINK MY YEAH. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ANSWERED HERE. MOST THREE NEIGHBORS CAME UP BEFORE I DID SO. THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IS REAL REAL BAD AFTER AND I THINK THE PROBLEM PROBABLY REALIZE THAT AT THIS AT THIS POINT, SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW , I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 4 40 YEARS SO SURE, I SURE HATE TO SEE ANYTHING. MHM HAPPENED TO HAVE TO MAKE THE REST OF MY LIFE MISERABLE OUT THERE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THAT SO CAN I GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? LESTER AND MOHAMMED 5 17 CANDLEWOOD. I THINK YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC THING IS THIS IS JUST IT'S JUST TERRIBLE. I'M PRETTY APPRECIATE YOU HEARING HERE IN THE SOUTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN AND SEE NO QUESTIONS. 
          MARGARET ANDERSON, THEN, UH, SAM. AUGUST. PERIOD OR AUGUST. AH MARGARET ANDERSON 5 TO 6 CANDLEWOOD LANE. MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, UH, AND. THE THING I FIRST 
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OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS, BUT YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDING THAN A FOUR STORY BUILDING. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS. OF THAT. SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT, SOME OF THE OTHERS, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE PLAN CALLS FOR A 6 FT. RETAINING FENCE WALL . WHATEVER IT IS ON THE BACK, AND I'VE SEEN THINGS THAT SAID THE RECOMMENDATION IS EIGHT. I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO WITH THE 8 FT. SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER TO OUR PROPERTY. THE OTHER THING. THE MAIN THING IS THE TRAFFIC GETTING OUT OF THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD WHETHER IT'S ON KEEL OR WHETHER IT'S ON MAYFIELD . THOSE ARE OUR CHOICES. TO GET ONTO CENTERVILLE TO TURN LEFT BETWEEN ON A WEEKDAY BETWEEN 6 30 IN THE MORNING AND NINE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON BETWEEN THREE OR 3 37 TO TURN LEFT TO GO EAST OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A 10 OR 15 MINUTE. WAIT. I WANT TO TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE YOUNG BAND THAT SAID THE TRAFFIC STUDY . WHAT 100 CARS PER HOUR. YOU CAN SIT THERE 10 MINUTES AND COUNTING 150 CARS. I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO HOW MANY THAT THEY WOULD GENERATE, BUT THEY WERE GENERAL. BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S ENOUGH CARS ON CENTERVILLE THAT I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IF IT'S A TRAFFIC STUDY TO AT LEAST LOOK AT HOW YOU COULD ADJUST THE LIGHTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THAT FLOW WHERE PEOPLE COULD GET OUT. OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IF IT'S APPROVED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WHICH REMINDED ME. I WAS ONLY TURNING RIGHT TO GET TO LBJ, SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO TURN LEFT SO YEAH. ALRIGHT UH, SAM SAM, PURE. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M SAYING PIERRE AGUS. AND I LIVE AT 5 18 SHARED WILL DRIVE. MY WIFE AND I, MY WIFE ROSE. HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 47 YEARS. WE ARE THE FIRST BUILDERS IN THAT YOU KNOW OUR HOME. WE ALSO OUR FAMILY. WE HAVE THREE BOYS THAT ARE NOW GROWN UP. AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH GRANDKIDS ON THE WEEKENDS. SO. WE'RE FAMILY PEOPLE IN LIKE MANY OF THE FOLKS HERE. WE BOUGHT AND BUILT THIS HOUSE. BECAUSE OF THE LOT LOCATIONS. THE LOTS OF LARGE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THERE. THE REASON THE LOTS ARE LARGE IN THE IN THE PURPOSE FOR HAVING LARGE LOTS IS FOR PRIVACY. THAT'S WHAT 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BOUGHT THIS FOR. AND IN MY OPINION, HAVING A FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH THREE STORIES LOOKING DOWN ON US. WILL NOT. ALLOW US TO HAVE THE PRIVACY. WE MOCKED. FOR BECAUSE MANY OF THE HOMES HAVE SWIMMING POOLS. AH! OUTDOOR KITCHENS. UH AND MANY OF THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT IN THIS AREA. AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED HERE. AH! I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DID A PETITION. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHO WAS FOR THIS PROJECT AND WHO'S AGAINST AND THERE ARE 2200 AND 20. HOMES IN THE AREA, 145 RESPONDED. AND TWO IS FOR IT. 145 IS AGAINST IT. SO PEOPLE HAVE SAID, OH, THE COMMISSION. AND COMMISSIONERS AND THE PLANNING GROUP LISTENS TO THE PEOPLE. WELL, 98% OF THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT FIT FOR OUR AREA, AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT IN THE CONSIDERATION. WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND I'M GLAD YOU YOU HEARD ME. THANK YOU. PLEASE I DO HAVE ONE QUICK, QUICK QUESTION. 
          YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. UM IN THE TESTIMONY, THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY COULD PUT A FIVE OR SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR HOTEL THERE. YOU HAVE THE SAME 
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CONCERNS ABOUT A FOR FIVE OR SIX STORY OFFICE AND OR HOTEL OR IS IT MORE? THE APARTMENT? YOU WILL EXCUSE ME? AN OFFICE COMPLEX IS NOT NEARLY AS UH HUH? OBJECTIONABLE AS APARTMENTS BECAUSE OF APARTMENTS. YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND LOOKING DOWN INTO YOUR BACKYARDS ALL THE TIME, AND THE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE SHOULD BE AT THEIR DESK, RIGHT? THEY SHOULD BE WORKING. 
          GET FIRED IF THEY AREN'T WORKING. ALRIGHTY THANK YOU. UM UH, LET'S SEE TRAVIS HICKS. AND THEN DAVID MCNEELY. 
          I'M TRAVIS HICKS. 502 SEQUOIA GARLAND, TEXAS. AH I GUESS I'M PARTIALLY LUCKY TO BE IN LINDA. 
          HOTCH SEDITION AND PART OF THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT A BACK. BACK UP TO THIS PROPERTY. BUT THERE IS, UH. REALLY KIND OF LIKE SAYING MAY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE FEBRUARY, 1976. AND THERE IS NO. NO REASON . A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING SHOULD BE IN THAT AREA. 
          IN MY OPINION. TRAFFIC STUDY. I'LL GO ALONG OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE TO A TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. REALLY? MEANS BUT, UH THERE'S THAT LOOKS LIKE A. THE QUESTION MARK FOR ME. CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ALLOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES, AND I DON'T HAVE LISTENING WITH ME BUT NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICES. ALLOWS LESS IMPACTFUL STUFF AND COMMUNITY COMMUNITY RETAIL, ISN'T IT? YEAH. WHERE IS IT? FROM THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY OFFICE. OKAY? YEAH, THE. THE TRAFFIC IS JUST GONNA BE THREE TIMES THE PROBLEM THAT IT IS CURRENTLY JUST FOR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE YESTERDAY ABOUT 11 45 TO 12 I MIGHT HAVE DOWN AND KILL STREET AND I WAS GONNA GO RIGHT ON KILL STREET OR WESTERN CENTERVILLE, AND I WAITED THERE FOR THREE MINUTES. FOR THE TRAFFIC TO COMING DOWN THAT FLOW, AND THAT'S A LONG TIME FOR THE FOR JUST MIDDLE OF SUNDAY. KNOWN TIME SUNDAY TIME, EVEN THOUGH CHURCHES LETTING OUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NOW ADDING THIS MANY CARS, PARKING SPACES AND ALL FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. TIMES THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS UP CENTERVILLE. IT'S GOING TO BE THREE TIMES AS BAD. AS IT IS NOW. AND UP MY. COMMUNICATION IS I NEVER GO DOWN AND KILL AND TURN EAST ON CENTERVILLE. I DON'T GO ON. MAYFIELD ATTORNEY STONE CENTERVILLE. I'LL GO DOWN STRAIGHT DOWN ACROSS BARNESVILLE DOWN TO THE ALLEY, GO TO GLENBROOK AND GO THROUGH THE Q T LIKE STRICTLY FOR SAFETY. AND I DON'T. I JUST I JUST I THINK IT'S A NO NO FOR NO TRAFFIC. 
          STUDIED GO UP. GO YOU KNOW, FUNGUS DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN AND THEN DAVID MCNEELY, FOLLOWED BY DONNA MACNEE. OH, DIANA MCNEELY. I'M DAVID MCNEELY 11 39 18 Q I DO WANT TO SAY I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT AND ITS ENTIRETY. I KNOW WE'VE TOUCHED ON TRAFFIC. UM BUT GOING DOWN CENTERVILLE WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE NEW COMPLEXES THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP GOING DOWN CENTERVILLE GOING TO 6 35 LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE SO MANY INSOLENCE OF ACCIDENTS, ROAD RAGE, PEOPLE THROWING STUFF OUT THE CAR JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE SPEED UP TO CUT YOU OFF TO GET OPEN AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD 3234 NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES. THAT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT WORSE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT COULD BE 100 YEARS, BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP US NOW. UM AND CAN I ASK? HAVE YOU EVER GONE DOWN CENTERVILLE GETTING ON 6 35 AND BEING CUT OFF IF YEAH. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE I WAS ASKED THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND THAT THEY HAD BEEN NOT NOT THAT YOU ASKED HIM, BUT HE RAISED THEIR, UM AND IF WE DO THIS, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE 
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TRAFFICKING NEIGHBORHOODS, THE LACK OF STOPLIGHTS. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO AN INTERSECTION AND PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT. THEY CUT THROUGH. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, A GAS STATION WEATHER NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE FLYING THROUGH. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE NO LONGER SAFE. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WANT TO SHORTCUT. RUN THROUGH KILL RUN THROUGH BARFIELD. WHATEVER IT IS, IT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE. UM I UNDERSTAND YOUR JOB IS THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE CITY OF GARLAND. I GET THAT. BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALONE IS NOT THE CITY. THESE PEOPLE ARE IN THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR. UM WE'VE LIVED HERE. OUR FIRST HOUSE WAS ON MAYFIELD BUILT IN 64. NOW WE LIVE ON KILLED THAT WAS BUILT IN 72. PEOPLE BEHIND ME HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES. THIS APARTMENT WOULD NOT BE WHAT WE WHAT WE SIGNED IN FOR WHAT WE BOUGHT INTO. THAT'S NOT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM. SO BASICALLY THE CITY OF GARLAND RIGHT HERE SITTING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. THE TURNOUT HERE JUST SHOWS THAT LONG YOU SAID EARLIER WHEN YOU GOT HERE. HEY. THERE'S NEVER ANYBODY HERE. WELL, NOW THERE IS AND WE DON'T WANT THIS. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR VOICE HEARD. WE NEED YOU TO LISTEN. AND WE NEED YOU TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS PROJECT JUST NOT GO FORWARD. WE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THERE. WE REALLY DO. BUT IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR HOW LONG ARE 57 YEARS? WHATEVER IT IS. A LITTLE BIT LONGER, AIN'T GONNA HURT I WOULD RATHER ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. THAT'S JUST ME. AND NOBODY HERE THINKS THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. AND WE HOPE THAT YOU PASS THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU, PLEASE. YEAH DOWN A BIG, NEARLY FOLLOWED BY PATRICIA HARRIS. MY NAME IS DONNA MCNEELY . I AM AT 39 18. HE'LL UH I HAVE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1981 KNOWS FOUR YEARS OLD. I HAVE LIVED ON CAROL. I HAVE LIVED IN MAY FEEL IT IN NOW WE ARE BACK ON KEEL. I LIVED IN CUBA FOR A LITTLE BIT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, UH, TAKING CARE OF MY ELDERLY MOTHER. UNTIL SHE EVENTUALLY PASSES THIS HOUSE THAT WE ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE IN IS NOT. JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS MY CHILDREN'S LEGACY, AND THERE'S APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT THE ANSWER. I AM NOT. I AM FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT I'M NOT FOR A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING THAT VIOLATES OUR PRIVACY. UM. I COULD I COULD GET BEHIND TOWN HOMES. I CAN GET BEHIND AN OFFICE BUILDING. I CAN GET BEHIND EVEN ANOTHER SENIOR LIVING CENTER. WE HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO. I HAVE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. I WORKED AT BAYLOR GARLAND TO THE DAY OF CLOSED. I STILL SERVE THIS THIS CLASS THIS COMMUNITY. AND I CAN TELL YOU WE NEED WE NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE LIVE ON KEEL TWO WEEKS AGO. I TIMED MY DRIVE. I GOTTA I GOTTA CALL IN MY FIELD IN THE HEALTHCARE FIELD. IF I GET A CALL, I HAVE TO BE AT WORK IN 30 MINUTES. THAT'S THAT'S LIFE AND DEATH THAT IS LITERALLY LIFE AND DEATH. 45 MINUTES FROM KIEL TO ACCESS ON THE 6 35 45 MINUTES. THAT'S SOMEBODY'S LIFE, AND I'M NOT JOKING. MY JOB IS AS A BLOOD BANKER AND A HOSPITAL LAB. I HAVE TO GO IN THERE EVERY DAY WILLING TO FIGHT FOR PEOPLE'S LIVES AND A 15 MINUTE COST ME AN EXTRA 15 MINUTES. THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. I HAD TO BACKTRACK. I HAVE TO TAKE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. I HAVE TO TAKE A BANYAN. I HAVE TO GO DOWN TO DUCK CREEK JUST TO GET TO 30. I DON'T EVEN ATTEMPT CENTERVILLE ANYMORE. LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE. IF I NEED TO MAKE A LEFT ON CENTERVILLE, I TAKE THE ALLEYWAY. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COMMON AMONG ALL OF US IS THE ALLEYWAY SO WE CAN GET SAFELY TO MAKE A LEFT UNDER CENTERVILLE. THAT'S THAT'S NOT RIGHT. WE NEED SOME CHANGES HERE . WE NEED SOME SAFETY PRECAUTIONS PUT IN I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER EASTGATE AND THE CRIME THAT THAT BROUGHT INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT COMING BACK. UM SO I AM. I'M VERY AGAINST THIS, BUT I AM NOT AGAINST IMPROVEMENTS. AND THIS IS JUST THIS IS NOT FOR US. THIS IS NOT FOR US. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. PATRICIA PATRICIA HARRIS AND THEN MAXINE PREP. HI I'M DR TRICIA HARRIS. I LIVE AT 40 WHO WERE TO KIEL. AND I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE SHORTEST ONES HERE, TOO. THAT'S LIVED HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS. AND I MOVED HERE BECAUSE IT WAS A 
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SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND VERY QUIET. AND I CAME FROM REALITY WHERE THEY WERE BUILDING ALL THESE APARTMENTS. AND IT WAS JUST GETTING OUT OF HAND. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THIS FIRST ONE IS TRAFFIC. THERE'S 280 PARKING SPOTS IN THIS COMPLEX PLUS THE OTHER PARKING SPOTS AND THE OTHER TWO SO HE MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD THE TRAFFIC STUDY, SAID 100. CARS ARE 100 VEHICLES IN AN HOUR YOU'RE PUTTING IN 280 SPOTS AND YOU'RE TELLING ME ONLY 100. 
          PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING AND COME HOME IN THE EVENING. I THINK SO. PLUS THE OTHER TWO. I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THE DEVIATIONS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS ONE AS WELL. NO ONE'S REALLY MENTIONED THERE WERE SIX DEVIATIONS THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS BEING 32 AS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE VERSUS 41 THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THE 60 FT FENCE. THE DUMPSTER IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL DEVIATIONS AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD APPROVE. 
          CERTAINLY THE SAFETY COMES TO MIND. THERE'S A THERE'S A CHILDCARE CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE. A DAYCARE CENTER IN THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THE CHILDREN THERE AS WELL. SO MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO SAY NO, WE DO NOT WANT THIS, AS SAM SAID THEY WERE 143 PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT THIS AND WE REALLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE OUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE BESIDE A FOUR STORY APARTMENT OR OFFICE COMPLEX. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALREADY, UH. MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO CALL OUT THE NAMES. I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT, THOUGH MAXINE PRE, FOLLOWED BY SANDY CAMPISI. UM MAXINE, PRE B. AND I LIVE AT 506 CANDLEWOOD LANE. I PROBABLY WILL BE THE BIG LARGEST EXCEPT FOR THE TWO PEOPLE ON SHARED WILL THE LARGEST PERSON IMPOSED IMPACTED BY THIS LIKE I'M NOT HERE TO FIGHT BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN HAS TOLD ME HE'S GOING TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH HIS WAR, AND IF HE DOES, THAT IT WOULD HELP ME BECAUSE A WALL. IF IT REALLY GOES BEYOND MY HOUSE. 
          I AM IN A HOLE AND I WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ALL KINDS OF CRIME. I'M SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE CRIME GOING ON ALL THE TIME. BUT MY BIG THING IS THERE IS TRAFFIC. THEIR COMPLEX. CAN ONLY GO. JUST FROM FROM CENTERVILLE ROAD TO LBJ. YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK I WAS COMING HOME FROM CHURCH AND I DECIDED TO COUNT CARS. IN THE LEFT HAND LANE ONLY GOING DOWN CENTERVILLE ROAD TOWARDS LBJ. FROM LBJ TO GREGORY. WHICH IS REALLY THE OUTSKIRTS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. I COUNTED 67 CARS IN ONE LANE. AND THE TRAFFIC WAS STILL COMING, AND I SAT THROUGH ANOTHER 13 CARS BEFORE I COULD MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN. AND THESE PEOPLE. WE'RE HAVING ALL THE TIME PEOPLE MAKING, U TURNS AND U TURNS GOING DOWN CENTERVILLE. MAKING A U TURN TO GO BACK TOWARDS BROADWAY. IT'S THE TRAFFIC IS IMPOSSIBLE NOW. WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE ONLY THROUGH THROUGH AWAY FROM FAR WHEEL LBJ, AND IT IS USED WONDERFULLY WELL, SO I JUST HOPE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. UM I HAVE. I DON'T REALLY WANT A FOUR STORY BUILDING BEHIND ME, BUT SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE BACK FURTHER FROM THE NURSING HOME IS ONE STORY AND AS IT IS NOW IT IS ABOVE MY 8 FT FENCE, SO I SEE. IT'S LIKE TWO STORIES ALREADY. UM SO I LIKE I SAID, THE GENTLEMAN SCOTT IS GOING TO IS WILLING TO MAKE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS TO ME. FOR HIS LITTLE PARKING AREA, AND I APPRECIATE IT SO I CAN'T FIGHT HIM ON THAT. BUT FOUR STORIES IS A LOT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THREE STORIES AT THE MAXIMUM AND I WOULD THINK ABOUT I THINK HE TOLD US WE NEED 150 NEEDS 250 APARTMENTS TO HAVE SOMEONE ON SITE ALL THE TIME. I THINK YOU SHOULD HOLD IT TO 150. IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU APPROVE THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, THE NEW THE NEW OWNERS OF PAYING UPWARDS OF 400. AND 2 $500,000 FOR A HOME TO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINK ABOUT THE TAX REVENUE FROM THEM. THAT YOU WILL WILL BE WHICH WILL BE DIMINISHED IN NO I MEAN, I'M SURE IT WILL BE 
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DIMINISHED BY HAVING A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING. BACKING UP TO THIS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ALREADY OKAY? SANDY CAPIZZI, FOLLOWED BY AMY, WHERE . SANDY CAMPISI, 42 02 CAYZAC. 
          JUST FOR THE RECORD. I GUESS I WASN'T CLOSE ENOUGH. I DIDN'T GET ANY NOTIFICATION. UM YES, I AGREE WITH THE TRAFFIC. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE RESISTANCE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THE SAD PART IS ALL THAT BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN ON KINGSLEY AND DOWN ON 66. WILL PROBABLY NOT BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BUILT YET, BUT THAT WILL BE AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT. UM AND THE AND, OF COURSE I'M ALSO AGAINST THE FOURTH STORIES. UM AND THE OTHER THING THAT HAS IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. BUT WITH ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT THE SKATING ALL I MEAN OVER BY WALMART. ALL OF THAT. AND WHERE A CITY WITH NO HOSPITAL. SO WHERE ARE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO IN AN EMERGENCY? AMY WHERE FOLLOWED BY MONICA SHERLUND. HI MY NAME IS AMY, WHERE I LIVE AT 5 14 KASHMIR. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEDISH. UM I DO AGREE WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY. TRYING TO GET OUT ON BARRED FIELD IS PART NASCAR. APART MAGICIAN, UM HIM, SAYING THE COMMENT ABOUT ADDING SPEED BUMPS DREAM ON. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT FOR 20 YEARS ON BART FIELD BECAUSE PEOPLE TURN RIGHT OFF OF O'BANION TURN LEFT ONTO BARFIELD AND THEN DO 50 MILES AN HOUR OR SO TO GET TO SATURN. SO IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU DON'T KNOW. UM I AM AGAINST THIS. OBVIOUSLY I REALIZED THE NURSING HOME HAS BEEN SITTING THERE EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME. UM AS A CHILD THAT GREW UP IN NORTH GARLAND. WE HAD A FIELD BEHIND OUR HOME FOR YEARS, AND THEN THEY BUILD APARTMENTS BEHIND THERE. THE APARTMENTS ARE SOLID WITH THE FANTASTIC 6 FT. UM, CONCRETE BARRIER. GRAFFITI IS, YOU KNOW, THEY STEAL YOUR TRASH CANS TO CLIMB AND JUMP OVER THE 6 FT PRIVACY FENCE, BUT TWO STORY FAIRLY SET BACK FROM OUR BACKYARD WHERE A RAPIST LIVED IN THE SECOND FLOOR APARTMENT AND BROKE INTO I THINK TWO OR THREE OF THE HOMES ON OUR STREET. SO YEAH, WHEN YOU HAVE AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME I REALLY WANTED TO WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE ON THE CAD WHERE ALL OF YOU LIVE. AND THEN SEE IF YOU HAVE A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING OVERLOOKING YOUR BACKYARD. AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT NOT ATTACKING YOU. I KNOW YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO. AND I KNOW IT'S ABOUT MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT A UH, BUSINESS OFFICE. WHATEVER. THERE IT IS ABOUT MONEY, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN MONEY, THE CRIME AND DECLINE ALREADY IN THE AREA. THE APARTMENTS ON SATURN. UM PEACH TREE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          SATURDAY NORTHWEST HIGHWAY CENTERVILLE. THEY'RE BASICALLY GARLAND PT TRAINING FACILITIES. 
          THE MURDERS, THE CARJACKINGS, THE CRIME. LOOK ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WATCH ON YOUR RING. TONS OF PEOPLE COMING BUT WITH THE HOMELESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UH HUH. BREAKING INTO OUR CARS AND EVERYTHING ALREADY, UM, BUSINESSES GENERATE REVENUE. APARTMENTS DO NOT I WOULD SAY. 
          TWO STORIES MAX BEHIND THEIR HOMES. AND CONSIDER. MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, BUT IN SEXY SLASH, WILEY WOODBRIDGE, THEY HAVE A 55 AND UP COMMUNITY HAVE PATIENTS THAT LIVE THERE, BUT THEY OWN THEIR HOME THEIR LITTLE TWO OR THREE BEDROOM PATIO HOME. 
          WHERE THEY OWN THAT OUTRIGHT WITH THE ALLEY AND THE GARAGE AND ALL THAT, AND THEY PAY A H O A FOR THEIR STUFF. SO TWO THINGS. THE MONEY TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE INVESTED IN THEIR HOME, BUT ALSO THE H O. A. THEY'RE THEY'RE MAINTAINING THOSE THINGS. UM WHERE THE APARTMENTS COMPLEXES? DO NOT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, UM . OH THIS WAS A COMMENT TOO MANY APARTMENTS IN THE SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY FULL. SO GOOD LUCK. I DON'T KNOW. THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD WANT BEHIND YOUR YARD AND CONSIDER THAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MONICA SHERLUND. AND THEN TERRY . I'M GONNA MESS THIS ONE. ASH BARKER. GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MONICA SHERLUND. 4 33 VALLEY PARK DRIVE . FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY I RESPECT Y'ALL. AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR US. I KNOW YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT JOB 
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AND I PRAY THAT YOU TAKE EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING INTO HEART. UM, I HAVE A DAUGHTER. 
          AND IT TERRIFIES ME THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE WORLD NOW , WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE INCREASING THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE RIGHT BEHIND YOU BY 100 AND 58 TIMES, HOWEVER, MANY RESIDENTS ARE IN AN APARTMENT. SO SAY MINIMUM OF 300 STRANGERS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. I LIVE ACROSS CENTERVILLE FROM WHERE THE APARTMENTS WILL GO, SO THEY WILL BE LOOKING DIRECTLY DOWN INTO MY YARD AT MY DAUGHTER AND THAT TERRIFIES ME. UM. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION THE WATER PRESSURE, THE UTILITIES THAT TRAFFIC YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAR IT ALL FROM ME AGAIN. BUT I DO WANT YOU TO REALLY CONSIDERED THAT SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE. THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN ARE PROPERTY VALUES DECREASING. I KNOW EVERYONE HATES PAYING TAXES . AND, HEY, WE WANTED A PRIVATE NEW VALUES TO GO DOWN, BUT NOT THIS WAY. SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. MM HMM. TERRY AND THEN, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A SHEP CORPORA. GOOD EVENING. I'M TERRY ASHE, BARKER AND I LIVE AT 4001 KILL. DR I ALSO DID NOT GET A NOTICE ABOUT THE FIRST MEETING. I DID GET A NOTICE FROM OUR HOMEOWNERS GROUP, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SECOND TOWN HALL TOWN HALL MEETING. I JUST I AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. EVERYBODY HAS ALREADY SAID. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC I CUT THROUGH THE ALLEY. AND I'M SURE THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW THEY LIVED BEHIND THAT ALLEY DON'T LIKE US DOING IT, BUT IT IS THE ONLY SAFE WAY TO GET OUT ON THIS INTERVALE. IT'S THROUGH GLENBROOK. AND SO I YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON KINGSLEY IN 66. IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD TO THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID THE HOMEOWNER VALUES I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2002. OUR HOUSE IS PAID FOR MY MOTHER AND DAD. BUILT THEIR HOUSE ON KEEL IN 1973, AND WE JUST RECENTLY SOLD MY MOTHER'S HOUSE. AND SO I , YOU KNOW, ROAD DEFINITELY INVESTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT ISSUE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE VARIANCES THAT THE BUILDER IS RECOMMENDING THE PARKING YOU'VE GOT PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS. BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN THE RESIDENTS HAVE GUESSED? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? I DON'T WANT THEM PARKING ON CHADWELL OR CANDLEWOOD OR ANY OTHER SIDE STREETS. UM ONE OR TWO STORY BUILDING IS FINE OFFICE DIDN'T OFFICES, DENTISTS, DOCTORS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT TWO STORY WOULD PROBABLY BE TOLERABLE. BUT TO ME A FOUR STORY IS JUST GOING TO STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. THERE ARE NO FOUR STORY BUILDINGS ON CENTER VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST IT WOULD JUST LOOK WAY OUT OF PLACE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN, AND, UH FOR, UH, SHEPHERD. SKIP CORCORAN, OKAY. I WARNED YOU FOLLOWED BY KELLY, KELLY YORK AND NICE LARGE PRINTING WORKS TO THANK YOU. 
          SKIP AND GLORIA CORCORAN, 41 26 KILL OR APPROXIMATELY 15 YARDS FROM THE SITE OF THE BOUNDARY. 
          UM EVERYONE HAS DONE AN EXTREMELY GOOD JOB TELLING YOU MY CONCERNS THE TWO THINGS I WANT TO HIT ON. THAT I WANT TO STRESS IS WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE 30 YEARS AGO. THE THING THAT ATTRACTED US WAS THE NOISE , THE LACK OF NOISE. THE LACK OF YOU COULD BARELY HEAR CENTERVILLE AND WE'RE PROBABLY EIGHT HOUSES FROM CENTERVILLE. WE DON'T HAVE ALLEYS. WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL BACKYARDS, AND THEY'RE SPACIOUS AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE. WITH OUR CHILDREN, WHICH WE'VE ALL RAISED CHILDREN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME MORE THAN ANYTHING IS WAR. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT ANYMORE. WE BARELY HAVE IT NOW, WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IN CENTERVILLE. BUT WITH THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING A FEW YARDS AWAY FROM OUR BACKYARDS, THE NOISE LEVEL IS GOING TO GO UP. I MEAN, THESE ARE PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN. THEY HAVE CARS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE GOING TO BE LIVELY, SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL. UH THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE GOT IT. SECONDLY, I THINK WE'RE UNDERESTIMATING THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS REVITALIZED. WE'RE HAVING NOW. ELDERLY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF. WE'RE MOVING OUT, AND YOUNG FAMILIES ARE MOVING IN WITH. CHILDREN. I'VE SEEN MORE BICYCLES ON OUR STREETS AND I EVER HAVE. IT'S A IT'S A GREAT FEELING. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT SATURN IS GOING TO TURN INTO 
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LIKE, BYPASS GOING DOWN BAR FOR BARFIELD IN MAYFIELD. TO BYPASS CENTERVILLE TO CUT UP KILL. AH! AND IT SCARES ME TO THINK AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET ON CENTERVILLE AND WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR. IT'S HARD TO GO RIGHT OR LEFT ON CENTERVILLE. UM I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXCESS TRAFFIC AND THE SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYTHING ELSE. EVERYONE HAS JUST DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, HILLARY YORK THEN, UH, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE FIRST NAME LAST NAME, RAYMOND. AS SHOULD RAYMOND. HI I'M KELLY YOUR COME AT 701 BARRED FIELD AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SAYING, BUT I'M SAYING IT BECAUSE I LIVE ON THAT ALLEY AND , UM, TIRED. THERE ARE LITTLE KIDS IN THAT RIDING THEIR BIKES AND PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 40 50 MILES ON THAT BACK VALLEY. WE HAD IT SHUT DOWN FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE WHEN SATURN WAS IMPROVED. WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE, BARRED FIELD WAS BUSY REALLY BUSY. WHEN SATURN OPENED UP THAT ELIMINATED ALL THAT, AND NOW IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN. EVERYBODY'S CROSSING CROSS BARRED FIELD AND THEY'RE FLYING DOWN THAT STREET AND THEN CUTTING OVER TO TAKE THE LIGHT SO BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE WITH THREE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON CENTERVILLE. DO THE MATH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR RAYMOND, FOLLOWED BY UH, OKAY? I CAN'T READ YOUR FIRST NAME BO WITH O'CONNELL. I'M BAD. GO AHEAD SIDE RAYMOND 4117 NIAGARA STREET . IT'S THIS HOUSE IN THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER, SO THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE RIGHT BEHIND MINE. I WANTED TO SAY LONG TIME LISTENER. FIRST TIME TALKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING ALL THAT YOU DO. AND LIKE WE SAID, NAME AND TOWN NAME AND, YEAH, THANK YOU. YES, YOU DID. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO EVERY POINT. PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THE POINT THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE, SO I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS DEVELOPER BUILDING THIS WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING IT. I'VE LIVED AT THAT HOUSE FOR THREE YEARS. IN THREE YEARS CONSTANTLY. THE ALARM GOES OFF. NOBODY FROM THIS PROPERTY HAS EVER RESPONDED TO THAT ALARM. THE ALARM HAS GONE OFF FOR 3456 DAYS DRIVES MY DOG'S CRAZY NOBODY HAS EVER RESPONDED THE CITY, WHICH IS ALL OF YOU. POLICE TELL ME TO TALK TO THE TO THE PERMITTING PERMITS TALKING. 
          TELL ME TO TALK TO THE POLICE AND POLICE. TELL ME TO TALK TO CODE COMPLIANCE AND COMPLIANCE IS GO TALK TO PERMITTING. NOBODY HAS EVER. EVER GOTTEN THAT ALARM TO SHUT OFF DRIVES ME AND MY DOG'S CRAZY. I CAN'T SLEEP FOR DAYS AT A TIME BECAUSE MY DOGS ARE GOING CRAZY. THIS DEVELOPER THIS OWNER HAS NEVER EVER ONCE RESPONDED TO THAT ALARM OR PEOPLE SETTING FIRES OR PEOPLE DUMPING ON THAT PROPERTY IN THREE YEARS EVER. SO THIS IS PERSONAL NOW. THE DEVELOPER KEEPS SAYING SAID IN, UM SAID HE WASN'T REQUIRED. YOU ALL KEEP SAYING WE DID EVERYTHING BY THE RULES, RIGHT? STOP HIDING BEHIND THE RULES. YOU'RE PLAYING WITH OUR LIVES RIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY . PEOPLE LIKE ME AT ONE POINT COULD NOT OWN PROPERTY. IT WAS LEGAL. STOP HIDING BEHIND LEGAL AND START DOING SOMETHING AND TAKING CARE OF US AND EVERYBODY HERE THAT IS SITTING HERE TELLING YOU TO HELP US. YOU'RE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE ASKING YOU TO HELP US. THANK YOU. GOOD TWO QUICK POINTS AND THE APPLICANT CAN TELL HE MAY NOT OWN THE PROPERTY YET. MAYBE UNDER CONTRACTS. YOU MAY HAVE NO CONTROL SECOND. WE'RE NOT ELECTED. THANK GOODNESS. WE'RE POINTED, AND WE GET ZERO PAY. UH, LET'S SEE MR O'CONNELL AND THEN UH, JOSEPH MCDERMOTT. HI I'M JOSHUA CONNELL. 601 SHADOW DRIVE. I APOLOGIZE FOR MY PENMANSHIP WORK IN I T ALSO THOUGHT I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO TALK BUT NOT TESTIFYING. I THOUGHT I HAD ALL THOSE, UH, CALLED OUT. GO AHEAD AND TALK, SO I'M ACTUALLY CATTY CORNER TO THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS. UM AND JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I PURCHASED MY HOUSE TWO YEARS AGO. I WAS THERE WITH LITTLE KIDS. MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR ALSO HAS SMALL CHILDREN. AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THAT THAT WILL BE 
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KIND OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. AH! I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE ACTUALLY MAINTAINED AND CLOSED RIGHT? AND SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH PEOPLE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FLYING THROUGH THERE WHEN MY KIDS ON A SWING IN THE FRONT YARD, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. THAT'S IT. THANKS THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, JOSHUA INTERMITTENT AND DAVID SCHULER. 
          HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY? UH I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE, SO I KNOW THERE MAY BE 121 150 PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS, BUT THERE'S 100 AND 77 YOUNG FAMILIES WHO MIGHT NEED A NEW HOME. AND I RESENT THE ASSUMPTION THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE TO OUR COMMUNITY WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE CRIMINALS AND BAD DRIVERS. I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF GARLAND. I PURCHASED MY HOME HERE IN 2018. I'M NOT A CRIMINAL. I'M NOT A BAD DRIVER. I CHOSE THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT IS ONE OF THE BEST POCKETS IN THE COUNTRY WHERE THERE'S A GOOD RATIO OF AFFORDABLE LIVING TO INCOME POTENTIAL, AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A GOOD RATIO LIKE THAT IS HOW YOU BUILD A FUTURE FOR YOUR KIDS AND THE MAJORITY OF MY FRIENDS ARE YOUNG FAMILIES, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE MOVING. 
          THEY'RE MOVING TO LIVE ON. THEY'RE MOVING TO NAVEDA. AND MY FRIENDS ARE COMMUTING AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES IN THE DFW, WHERE THEY CAN EARN A WAGE TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. AND SO. YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY IS EVERYONE KNOWS MORTGAGE RATES HAVE DOUBLED. THE TAX ASSESSMENT ON MY HOUSE HAS GONE UP DOUBLE DIGITS THE PAST TWO YEARS, WHICH IS FINE THAT HELPS MY KIDS SCHOOLS. UM BUT THERE'S THIS IDEA OF LIKE REVERSE RENT REPLACEMENT. SO KIND OF COMPARING THE MONTHLY PAYMENT THAT YOU PAY ON AN APARTMENT COMPARED TO YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT, PLUS YOUR TAXES AND YOUR INSURANCE. AND GETTING APARTMENTS IN PLACE. THAT ARE BELOW THE REPLACEMENT COST TO BUY A HOME AND THIS AREA IS HOW YOU GET YOUNG FAMILIES INTO AN AREA. AND I WOULD SAY THAT TO REVITALIZE A COMMUNITY. YOU NEED NICE NEW PEOPLE. WHO ARE GOING TO BE SAFE AND TO DO THAT, YOU NEED A NICE NEW SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD HELP TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          OKAY I MISSED THAT ONE. YOU NEED ADDRESS. JOSEPH MCDERMOTT, 17 17 HILLTOP DRIVE. AND UH, PEOPLE, PLEASE. PLEASE DAVID SCHULER, AND THEN AND PLEASE. AND THEN WE HAVE MARIA MARTINEZ AND SHE SHE WILL NEED SOME TRANSLATION HELP. GO AHEAD, SIR. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS DAVID SCHULER. I LIVE AT 42 10. KAZAKH. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR 30 YEARS. AH! I'M ABUNDANTLY OPPOSED TO ITEM AGENDA ITEMS FOR F AND FOUR G ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS THIS EVENING. CONTRARY TO THE ELOQUENT. TESTIMONY THE APPLICANT MADE THIS EVENING. 
          THIS IS NOT THE BEST DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AREA. APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS AGO HERE, HIM APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THIS EXISTING ONE HERE, AND IT TURNED INTO A DENTAL OFFICE MOUSSE. OH DENTAL OFFICE. I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY. AND THE PLANT COMMISSION. THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION THAN THIS. IT IS THERE. PLEASE WORK TOGETHER AND FIND SOME BETTER SOLUTION. 
          PLEASE CONSIDER THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THESE MANY YEARS. 
          YOU'VE HEARD TIME TIME AGAIN. ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN HERE. 30, PLUS YEARS 40 YEARS. 
          PLEASE CONSIDER THE RIGHTS OF THESE CITIZENS, NOT JUST THE ASPECT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARIA MARTINEZ, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE GETTING YOU SOME HELP HERE. HELLO MY NAME IS MARIA MARTINEZ. I DO THIS, UM, SPEAKING SPANISH BECAUSE I USED MY ENGLISH IS NOT SO GOOD FOR ALL THEY WANT TO SAY. OKAY? MARIA MARTINEZ. YOU CAN GO AHEAD 
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UP THERE AND JUST TRANSLATE. THANK YOU. MIKA'S LOCALISM QUARANTINE. THOSE KILLED DR WENT UP. YES. THE NEIGHBORS. DEPARTAMENTO. MY NAME IS MARIA MARTINEZ AND MY HOUSE IS LOCATED AT 42 10 KILLED DR AND MY PROPERTY WILL BE LOCATED. 150 FT , AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT BUSTAMENTE ATRAS DIOS. I AM RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY. LET US GARLAND MAYBE I NELSON MESQUITE. IN LA RAZON MOVIE MOST DEPARTAMENTO DE THOSE PIECES. WE MOVED TO GARLAND THREE YEARS AGO. WE CAME FROM MESQUITE AND THE REASON WHY WE MOVED THIS BECAUSE WE HAD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THAT WAS TWO STORIES HIGH BEHIND OUR PROPERTY. ALSO NOT CASA SEGURA. WHEN I GET THAT SEGURA THAN ME ALIEN AND MESQUITE SEE IMPRESSION. OBSERVADOR BARBADOS POOR PERSONAS. SUFFICIENT. WHEN MY CHILDREN WILL LEAVE THEIR SCHOOL , THEY WOULD BE WATCHED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE PROTECTED BY AN 8 FT FENCE, BUT THEY WERE STILL BEING WATCHED AS THEY WENT HOME. VALERA SAMPLE CAN ALSO TRUST THE MOST APPROPRIATE PRIVACY SEGURO . SORA. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE TO MOVE TO GARLAND SO THAT WE COULD HAVE AN AREA WHERE WE FELT THAT OUR CHILDREN WOULD BE SAFE. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE CAME HERE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION GOING ON IN THE NATION WITH THE SAFETY TRAFFIC OS TO REVEAL GET ME SEE HUSBAND AND CENTRAL DALLAS MIKASA THE STRENGTH QUARANTA CINCO. THE TRAFFIC IS BAD. IT TAKES ME ABOUT 30 TO 45 MINUTES TO LEAVE MY HOME NOW AND TAKE MY CHILDREN TO A SCHOOL IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. TENSION. YEAH, NO STORY. UH, YOU'RE SCARING CONSTRAINT, ALGO THE QUATTRO PIECE OF THOSE PIECES. LOW LIFE EXPERIENTIALLY BABY. YES, CONTROLLER. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR STORIES. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING. MAYBE WITH TWO STORIES, BUT BASED ON MY PRIOR EXPERIENCE FOR STORIES IS TOO HIGH. THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER CARD AHEAD FOR NOW, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO VOICE THEIR OPINION AND I'LL CALL OUT THOSE NAMES. 
          NOW, TERRY BRADSHAW. UM AGAINST AND WITH THE NOTE. WE NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY. KIM LEE AGAINST. 
          MITCHELL CROFTON AGAINST. EBELING FITZPATRICK AGAINST GLORIA. COULD CORN AGAINST NANCY KAREN SHAW AGAINST. ALL OF YOUR HANDWRITING IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN MINE, GEORGE BROCKMAN AGAINST RONALD. MERKEL DOVE AGAINST COOL. MARTHA WASHINGTON AGAINST MARGARET DURING AGAINST . LUIS RODRIGUEZ AGAINST. ORLIN MENDEZ AGAINST. DONNA NICKELS AGAINST ANGUS. DAVID NOT TESTIFYING, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS AGAINST. HE DIDN'T MARKET YEAH, AND, UH, JACK JACK, THIS K DAVID AGAINST THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? NO I DIDN'T WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? HMM. OKAY. WE'LL START WITH THIS YOUNG MAN OVER HERE AND THEN GET A CRISIS, RIGHT? YEAH COME ON, DOWN AND QUEUE UP. HELLO MY NAME IS GIOVANNI HERNANDEZ. I LIVE IN 4118 KEELEY DROVE. IT TAKES MY MOM APPROXIMATELY 13 TO 15 MINUTES FOR HER TO GET TO MY SCHOOL OR BANNING MIDDLE SCHOOL TO PICK ME UP BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FROM KEELY AND CENTRAL 
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CENTRAL. AND I DON'T LIKE IT. I REALLY DON'T. REALLY DON'T. YOU ALREADY DON'T LIKE IT STRAIGHT FORWARD, AND WHEN I COME TO SCHOOL WHEN I COME BACK FROM SCHOOL TO MY HOUSE USUALLY RIDE MY BIKE. LOT RIGHT AROUND. 4 TO 7 P.M. MY WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS RIGHT THERE. THAT THEY WATCHED ME AND THEN NOW SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT I DON'T LIKE IT AND THEN I'M SCARED THAT THINGS CENTERVILLE AND KELLY. I LIVE LIKE FIVE HOUSES, RIGHT? MY KIDNEY. I'M SCARED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CARS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING ME. THE BUILDING IS LITERALLY GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO MY RIGHT BEHIND MY BACK YARD. NOT SCARED THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WATCHING ME AND MOM, MY SISTER, MY BROTHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. SURE I'LL TAKE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. MY NAME IS HAROLD HEINZ LEE. I LIVE ON 4002 KAZAKH STREET. WE MOVED TO GARLAND IN 2005. AND WE'VE BEEN HERE EVER SINCE. OBVIOUSLY HAVE ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED TONIGHT. IS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT COULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. IF YOU HAVE 100 AND 77 YEARS, AND YOU PUT TWO PEOPLE IN EACH UNIT YOU'VE GOT 354 PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY. I HIGH AS SIX PEOPLE, WHICH IT COULD BE EVEN MORE. EACH UNIT. WHICH WAS VERY HYPOTHETICAL. WE ALL KNOW YOU'VE GOT 1000 12. PEOPLE. IN THIS ONE AREA. THAT IS NOT ANY BIGGER THAN JUST A GOOD CITY LIGHT. SO IF I DON'T KNOW YOUR AVERAGE AND ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY, BUT WE'VE HAD. WE'VE NOT HAD ANYBODY FOR EITHER EVEN FROM THE COMPANY. TO ADDRESS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THERE. WE'RE GONNA INFLUX IN THIS COMPLEX ONE TIME WITHIN A YEAR'S TIME OF OPENING. 
          ANOTHER THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. IS THAT IF YOU GO FROM HIGH 30 ROCK WALL TO FIVE AREA AND YOU HAVE A BRIDGE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF AN ACCIDENT. EVERY SINGLE NEWS MEDIA RUNS 66 TO THEIR CENTERVILLE AND CENTERVILLE TO LBJ, OR SET OF REAL TWO LARGE FIELD AND STRAIGHT OVER TO SATURN AND BACK OVER LBJ. AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY, THEY MIGHT GET BACK ON 6 35 AND TRY TO GET BACK ON GOING BACK TO DALLAS AS IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH. IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH, THEY'RE GONNA HIT YOU FITZGERALD OR FITS , UH, FERGUSON AND CARRY YOU THROUGH TO AVOID THE BRIDGE. 
          NOW, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AVOID THAT? ANOTHER 20 YEARS WHEN THEY GET THE BRIDGE FIXED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE AND IN FERGUSON ROAD COMING OFF 6 35 INTO US. I DID BEG TO DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO IMPROVE GETTING INTO THIS CITY AT ALL. WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. IT MIGHT. BUT LOOK WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THE RIDGE GOING FROM THE WEST LBJ TO GET ON 75 NORTH. IT TAKES YOU 15 MINUTES TO JUST GET ON 75 FROM 6 35. IN THE AFTERNOON. I CAN'T SEE THIS GOING TO HELP US HERE. 
          WHEN THEY GET CENTERVILLE FIXED. TO GET OFF IT ANY BETTER. AND FINALLY I WOULD SAY THAT. IF YOU DO IF THIS COMPANY HAS DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH THEY SAID THEY DID NOT. ADDRESSED MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT THERE'S WITH IT ON 100 100 CARS EASILY WITHIN A 15 MINUTE PERIOD TIME. THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I THINK IF YOU SEE A TRUE TRAFFICS THROUGH THE ON A WEEKDAY TIME IN THE PRIME OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW. MORNING AND AFTERNOON, YOU'LL SEE WELL OVER 100 AND 50 CARS AND A 15 MINUTE PERIOD. HE'S LIKE. NO, I AM NOT AGAINST GROWTH. IF YOU COULD SUM UP, PLEASE, I WILL SEND UP IN 30 SECONDS. I AM NOT AGAINST GROWTH IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE GARLAND LEADERSHIP ACADEMY GRADUATE AND I BELIEVE IN MOVING FORWARD. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE AND MOVE FORWARD SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS IN RENT AND YOU'D APPRECIATE MY PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
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GOOD EVENING. UM I LIVE ON 41 17 KILLED. DR. MY NAME IS MARIEL STAT, SIR. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I DO HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO TO SCHOOL AT GARLAND. I S T. I HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO TO THE DAYCARE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU THAT WE ARE OVER WHELMED WITH UM, NOT HAVING ENOUGH ROOM FOR CHILDREN TO NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS ALREADY FULL AS IT IS, IT WAS HARD FOR US TO FIND A DAYCARE WHEN THE TIME CAME BY, I COULDN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE HAVING OVER 300 PEOPLE MOVE IN. UM AND CAME ON THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR NOT DOING THEIR RESEARCH PRIOR TO COMING TO YOU GUYS. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE APPOINTED. BUT WE DO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT POINT YOU SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. UM THIS WILL COME UP. 
          IF IT'S PASSED, WE WILL CONSIDER HOW WE'RE VOTING NEXT TIME. MOREOVER AS YOU GUYS CAN REMEMBER, CHILDREN USED TO PLAY OUTSIDE, RIGHT, I GREW UP PLAYING OUTSIDE. MY KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY AND THEY WOULD DEFINITELY NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY WITH APARTMENTS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE CONCERNED FOR THEIR SAFETY. UM YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE DEEMED BAD PARENTS FOR LEARNING AND PLAY OUTSIDE WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE FLYING BY OUT OF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT IN THE AREA WHERE OFF KYLE? WELL, THERE'S A. MM TIRE SHOP, RIGHT? TRAFFIC DEFINITELY IS NOT OVER 100 CARS AN HOUR. BUT THEY DO LIKE TO TEST THEIR CARS AND BRUSH DOWN. KILL. SORRY AND YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE WITH OVER 350 CARS. PLUS YOU KNOW VISITORS, PEOPLE THAT MANAGED TO PROPERTY. 
          JUST FLYING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT LET MY KIDS PLAY OUTSIDE OF THAT HAPPENED. AND I DON'T WANT TO RACE ZOMBIES THAT JUST STARE AT COMPUTERS AND TABLETS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PLAY OUTSIDE. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO DEEPLY CONCERNED NOT HAVING FOUR STORY APARTMENT. YOU KNOW, WE ALL SAID THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH HAVING TOWN HOMES OR HAVING, UM OFFICES, BUT DEFINITELY NOT THIS FOUR STORY APARTMENTS. THANK YOU. AND BONNIE JOHNSTON 39 17 KILLED DR. I BASICALLY AGREE WITH EVERYONE, AND I DIDN'T COME UP HERE UNTIL THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN COME UP HERE AND FIRST OF ALL, YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULE AND MAKE HIM GIVE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS AS HE'S LEAVING . HE SAYS HE LIVES ON HILLTOP, WHICH IS BETWEEN MILLER FOR SLAIN AND SHILOH. SO EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINION, BUT I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE AND YOU WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN THE INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN SOMEONE JUST FLYING BY A LONER AND GIVING HIS INPUT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. WELL, I'VE SEEN NO OTHER SPEAKERS. I'LL GIVE IT ONE LAST CALL. ALRIGHTY. AND COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I ASKED THE APPLICANT BACKUP, I WILL PROBABLY CALL IT 10 OR 15 MINUTE RECESS. NO, COME ON UP JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN SITTING HERE A COUPLE HOURS WHEN WE ALL HAVE BLADDERS. HI CYNTHIA CLEVELAND 42 05 AGUSTA. I'M NOT A GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER. 
          MY DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, SO I GET REALLY NERVOUS. UM BACK UP TO THE APARTMENT THAT ARE ON SATURN ROAD. AND EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE IS A I HAVE AN 8 FT FENCE THAT I PURCHASED MYSELF AND HAD INSTALLED THERE IS A 12 TO 15 FT UTILITY EASEMENT BETWEEN ME AND THE CHAIN LINK FENCE. I HAVE WOKEN UP TO PARTIES GOING ON GUNSHOT. BEER BOTTLES. OTHER. I DON'T ITEMS THROWN IN MY BACKYARD. UM, LOTS OF. NOT GREAT BEHAVIOR, AS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE BUILDERS OR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IS GOING TO DO A BRICK AND MORTAR FENCE. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I BELIEVE. YEAH OKAY, SO THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF ROCK OR AGGREGATE THEY USE, KIDS CAN CLIMB THOSE REALLY EASY. UM AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH BEING A SINGLE WOMAN. UM. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE APARTMENTS BEHIND ME. Y'ALL YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC GAS IMPACT ALL OF THIS. THE TAX ISSUE WITH OUR HOMES. YES HUGE ISSUE, BUT ALSO 
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. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO VET THE APPLICANTS AND THEIR TENANTS THAT WILL BE THERE. IS THIS GOING TO BE A SECTION EIGHT. IS THIS GOING TO BE? YOU HAVE TO MAKE SO MUCH MONEY TO LIVE THERE , YOU KNOW. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO REGULATE WHAT? HOW ARE THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES ON HILLTOP, UM IT IS HIS COMMUNITY, TOO, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE HARP ON HIM. I WILL SAY THIS IS NOT HIGHLAND PARK. THIS IS NOT LIKE HIGHLAND. THIS IS NOT UPTOWN. WE CAME OUT HERE FOR A REASON, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE WANTED PROPERTY AND WE WANT THEM TO BE GREAT. BUT I DO THINK THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT GO GREAT DOWN HERE HAVE ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX AT FOUR STORIES HERE IN DOWNTOWN. YOU'LL WANT TO BUILD THIS UP. AWESOME, BUT WE BUILT I MEAN, I CONSIDER THIS THE COUNTRY LIKE YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH, BUT FAR AWAY , SO IT JUST IT BREAKS MY HEART FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BACK UP TO THE THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM BECAUSE IT IS SCARY CHANGE IS SCARY. IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY. 
          THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT FOR THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SINCE THERE APPEAR TO BE NO OTHER SPEAKERS CHAIR WILL COUGH FOR RECESS AND LET'S COME BACK IS 10 AFTER. 
          THEN AFTER THANK YOU AND WELCOME BACK TO MAY 22ND MEETING. WE'RE STILL MAY 22ND. WE'RE NOT MAY 23RD YET . ARE WE? OKAY? 20 SECONDS. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. UM DURING THE RECESS, I GOT THREE MORE CARDS OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO STATE THEIR POSITION BUT NOT TESTIFY. 
          LEILA CLAY AGAINST VIRGINIA M. DAVIS AGAINST JAMES W. DAVIS AGAINST AND ALL THAT THE APPLICANT BACKUP IF HE CARES TO ADDRESS ANYTHING. I DON'T WANT YOU DON'T YEAH. QUICK QUESTION. 
          DO WE NEED TO REINTRODUCE ADDRESS ANYTHING LIKE THAT? COOL EASY ENOUGH AGAIN, MARK YOU AND I'M GOING TO JUST TOUCH ON THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AGAIN. I WAS JOTTING DOWN EVERYONE'S CONCERNS THAT WAY. WE CAN HOPEFULLY TALK ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT. AND SO THE FIRST COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE ACCESS TO SHAD. WELL IT BEING CALLED EMERGENCY ACCESS. THERE ISN'T ANY RESIDENTS LIKE RESIDENTS CAN'T IT'S SOLELY FOR FIRE. YOU KNOW ANY ANYONE FROM THE CITY THAT WOULD NEED TO GET IN WITH THE KNOX BOX? SO EMERGENCY? IT'S KIND OF A LOOSE TERM, BUT AND THERE'S NO SCENARIO WHERE RESIDENTS COULD GO THROUGH THAT GATE AND DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THAT SAME NOTE , I DID WANT TO REITERATE AND CLARIFY THE TA CONCERNS AGAIN. WE STRICTLY WENT BY THE T S M, WHICH IS 100 VEHICLES. PER HOUR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ONLY WHICH I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TONS OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS FOR CENTERVILLE , BUT DIDN'T WANT TO CLARIFY. THE ONLY REASON WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO TO IS BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN THE T. S. M. SCOTT WILL WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE'S WILLING TO DO AND WHAT, HOW HE'S WILLING TO COOPERATE. YOU KNOW, WITH THE POTENTIAL T I A COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY COUPLE. OTHER THINGS NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. I CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE AN ARCHITECT HERE WITH US. I CAN'T SPEAK TO AN ANTICIPATED NUMBER, BUT AS FAR AS THE COMPOSITION OF THE BUILDINGS, IT'S JUST ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS. THERE AREN'T ANY THREE BEDROOM UNITS AND THERE'S EVEN ONE BEDROOM EFFICIENCY AND IT'S AS WELL SO I MEAN, I GUESS, THEORETICALLY, SIX PEOPLE COULD FIT IN A TWO BEDROOM BUT WOULD BE PRETTY CRAMPED. UM WATER PRESSURE. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO A TON OF ANALYSIS ON THE WATER SYSTEM AS IT'S PART OF THE ZONING PROCESS ONCE WE GET FURTHER ALONG THE E MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING WILL ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT SYSTEM AND IF IT WARRANTS THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, PUMPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT A BURDEN ON THE SYSTEM WILL CERTAINLY DO SO AND THEN, ONLY OTHER THING. THE UTILITIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH HAD A PICTURE, BUT THE OVERHEADS WE DO INTEND ON BURYING THOSE WITH OBVIOUSLY COORDINATION WITH THE JAY SANDERS AND ENCORE SO I'LL PASS THAT ON TO SCOTLAND. SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THOSE GO SEEN ON THINK A ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YEAH OKAY, ONE THING THAT WE DID. SOME WAS MENTIONED THAT THE LANDSCAPING WOULDN'T BE TAKEN CARE OF MORE THAN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS. I THINK YOU CAN GO INTO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOMEONE'S LAW LAWN IS MAINTAINED. PEOPLE AREN'T MAINTAINED. IT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH H O S TO TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM PROPERTY WE WOULD HIRE A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. RECURRENT CURRENTLY INTERVIEWING GRAY STAR AND LINCOLN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. THEY NATIONALLY PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES. THEY 
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DO VERY, VERY WELL. THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING SO WE WOULDN'T JUST LET IT BE HAPHAZARD. THE GENTLEMAN THAT GOT UP AND SPOKE IN FAVOR I'VE NEVER MET HIM TONIGHT. I DIDN'T PAY HIM TO BE HERE LIKE THAT WASN'T A PLANT, I PROMISE. BUT HE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT THAT NOT JUST EVERYBODY MOVING INTO AN APARTMENT. IS SUDDENLY A SUBCLASS CITIZEN. THESE AREN'T CRIMINALS AND PEDOPHILES AND THOSE PEOPLE LIVE EVERYWHERE. AND WE CERTAINLY WHEN WE GIVE SOMEONE AN APPLICATION, THIS IS A MARKET RENT APARTMENT. IT'S NOT A SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, IT'S NOT LOW INCOME HOUSING. THIS IS MARKET RATE, MEANING THAT YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY IT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD QUALIFY TO GET INTO A HOME. OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ADHERE TO THE LAWS AND HOUSING LAWS THAT AFFECT THAT, SO WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE. WE CAN HOLD ANYBODY ASIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE WANT GREAT PLACES TO LIVE. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A GREAT PROJECT IN IT'S BETTER THAN THE EXISTING UNITS THAT ARE AROUND THE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT I HEARD WE'RE FOR SOME OLDER UNITS, AND THIS IS WHY PROJECTS LIKE THIS GIVES THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NECESSARILY MOVE FROM THE BAD SIDE OF TOWN TO COME OVER HERE IN POLLUTE. GARLAND, THIS IS GARLAND CITIZENS MOVING INTO GARLANDS BUILDING. I THINK AS FAR AS A TRAFFIC STUDY, OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE. IT WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE WE CAME ALONG. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AFTER MORE THAN HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRAFFIC CITY . THAT WAS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TONIGHT. WE DEFINITELY IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE THAT WE CAN HELP OUT WITH ME MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I'VE GOT FOR RIGHT NOW, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, OKAY? COMMISSIONER ROSE YES, THE WORD TRAFFIC CAME UP REGULARLY. AH! WOULD YOU AS THE DEVELOPER? HELP THE CITY PAY TO PUT IN TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT YOUR ENTRANCE. TO CONTROL TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING . I THINK THAT WE WOULD WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          I DON'T. I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT MIGHT HURT TRAFFIC. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO SAY THAT WE WOULD OR WOULDN'T DO SOMETHING, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THAT STREET, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT THE LEAST IMPACT NOT HURT. TRAFFIC. MY NEIGHBORHOOD. UH A TRAFFIC LIGHT. IT WAS A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION. TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS INSTALLED, AND IT HELPED THE TRAFFIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING BACK DOWN. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSION JOURNAL ENTERTAINER MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC AREAS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AUBIN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE. 
          EVERYBODY CARES TO START. COMMISSIONER ARBEN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. I VERY MUCH WANT TO HEAR THE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO CAME DOWN TO GIVE US YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS. I KNOW MATTERS A LOT ABOUT YOUR HOMES. UM BUT WHERE YOU LIVE? WHERE MANY OF YOU LIVE FOR A LONG TIME. I DO WANT TO HEAR THE OPINIONS OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. UM AND I HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS MYSELF, AND THEY'RE KIND OF DISORGANIZED. I WANT TO SHARE THEM WITH THE COMMISSION AND ALSO MORE THAN SHARE THEM WITH YOU. UM YES, I SPENT AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, SIX YEARS ON ON THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THIS WAS IN MY DISTRICT AND THIS WAS VERY AH, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN IN YOUR HOMES HAVE THAT ARE BUT TO THIS PROPERTY HAVE DRIVEN THIS PROPERTY WALKED AROUND IT HAD BEEN THERE. UM AND SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE DIFFICULT CASES. 
          I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MORE DIFFICULT THAN ANY SPECIFIC ANY SINGLE CASE THAT I HANDLED WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL. SO I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT MAYBE I'M NOT ANYMORE. THIS IS NOW IN THE HANDS. WHATEVER WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION. THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FREE TO IGNORE. UM, BUT YOU'LL BE IN THE HANDS OF COUNCIL MEMBER LOCKED. WHO I KNOW WILL GIVE THIS VERY, UH SINCE YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM I HAVE A LOT OF THAT SAID. I HAVE A LOT OF MIXED FEELINGS AND I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON A LOT OF THIS. AND I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I DID LEARN AND WHEN I SAY GO BACK AND FORTH IN MY MIND, I'VE BEEN AT TIMES IN FAVOR OF THIS AND AT TIMES OPPOSED AND IT REALLY TAKES SITTING DOWN AND HEARING PEOPLE AND SEEING EVERYTHING I THINK TO START TO REALLY PULL A POSITION TOGETHER. UM. AND ONE THING THAT I DID NOT REALIZE I HAD THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS AN APPARENTLY I WAS THINKING ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS RESTRICTED. AH IN THAT IT WAS COVERED BY WHAT WAS CALLED PD, 
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UM, THAT LIMITED IT IN ITS CURRENT FORM TO BASICALLY SENIOR LIVING TYPE USERS. UM IT WAS ALL SURPRISED TO REALIZE YOU THINK THAT I REMEMBER THIS, BUT I WAS SURPRISED TO REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR WHAT COULD GO HERE, ONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY IS UM, WOULD BE A HOSPITAL. UH FOR THOSE OF YOU FOR THOSE WHO YOU'D SEE THE HUMOR IN THAT, UM THE, UH MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS, AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD BECOME, AND LET'S BE CLEAR. UM, IT IS ALREADY HOMELESS SHELTER. IT ABSOLUTELY IS, AND IT HAS BEEN, AND IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT BATTLE. AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY WITH AH, IT'S SOME OF THE BIG MEETINGS THAT WE HAD THAT NEW LIBERTY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO HOST AT SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES. WE'VE BEEN THAT IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT BATTLE. THE BUILDING IS ESSENTIALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO REDEVELOP. IT'S FULL OF ASBESTOS. UM. AND SO IT THERE'S JUST IT'S A REAL IT'S REAL PROBLEMATIC. AND, UM. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AND I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME DOWN AND THEY OPPOSE THINGS AND YOU LISTEN TO IT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THINGS CAN COME IN BY, RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYTHING COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO THE CITY COUNCIL. JUST BECAUSE OF THE ZONING RULES AND EVERYTHING ELSE OR CERTAIN THINGS THAT FOLKS THAT WE WOULD NEVER GET TO EVEN, UH OPINE ON THERE WAS JUST COME IN. AND SOME OF THAT IS SOME OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WERE DESCRIBED SOME OF THAT IS THE, UH THE HOTELS ARE FULL SERVICE HOTEL COULD BE BUILT HERE. UM THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I KNOW THAT AT FIRST BLUSH, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN OR THAT THIS OR THAT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT NOT ONLY WOULD, UH, WITH SCOTT HERE, BUT WITH OTHER FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO OVER THE YEARS WHEN THIS WENT VACANT, UM THE PROPOSAL WAS WAS HOTELS WAS EXTENDED. I MEAN, IN AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE THOUGHT OF AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL HERE. I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT COME ON, REALLY WOULD BE WORSE. I MEAN, YEAH, IT EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BAD. UM YOU KNOW, THE TWO COMPLAINTS THAT I HEARD MOST WHEN I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL THAT I ASSUME THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK HERE'S NOW OUR, UH, WE'RE OFTEN ABOUT THE HOME HOMELESSNESS AND IN THE AREA, WHICH IS DRIVEN IN LARGE PART BY THE FACT THAT WE'RE SO CLOSE TO DALLAS RIGHT ON THE BORDER. IT'S DIFFICULT. AND IN THE SECOND ONE WAS ABOUT THE LACK OF UH, UM RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OPTIONS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER. WELL APARTMENTS DON'T BRING REVENUE AND APARTMENTS. 
          DON'T AND APARTMENTS. ABSOLUTELY BRING REVENUE APARTMENT 100% BRING REVENUE. IF YOU WANT BETTER, AND I BEEN BANGING THE DRUM ON THIS FOR YEARS IF YOU WANT BETTER RETAIL AND BETTER OPTIONS IN SOUTH GARLAND, WE NEED MORE ROOFTOPS. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIVING HERE. PEOPLE WHO'VE GOT THE ABILITY WHO WANT TO GO OUT AND EAT. WHO WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS. THAT'S HOW YOU GET. THAT'S HOW YOU GET IT. THAT IS 100. HOW YOU GET HIT. UM. AND SO IT IT REALLY PRESENTS A DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE AS I WAS SITTING HERE EARLIER, I'M LIKE WHAT I WANT THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT THAT IN MY BACKYARD WOULD YOU KNOW AND HAVE SOME REAL CONCERN ABOUT THAT. NOW I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE IS HAS REALLY TRIED TO WORK WITH FOLKS HAS TRIED TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MORE AMENABLE. UM AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY IN MY BOOK. UM AS FOR THE BUT I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE HEARD MORE OF THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I SAID THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO. A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH AGO. I DON'T KNOW. I LOST ALL TRACK OF TIME. I CAN'T TELL TIME SINCE THE PANDEMIC NO LONGER MEMBER IT, BUT UM MAYBE A MONTH AGO. WE HEARD ABOUT THE UH, TOWN HOMES. TOWN. HOME DEVELOPMENTS AT KINGSLEY AND CENTRAL I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY THERE ARE BUT FOR ALL OF YOU WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AT ON VALLEY PARK IN OUR REVIEW, AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF YOU WHO ARE HERE RIGHT NOW. YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS JUST DOWN THE STREET HAD TO SAY ABOUT FOLKS WHO LIVE IN TOWN HOMES. AND IT WAS, I MEAN, REALLY WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN OUR REVIEW AND VALLEY PARK IS A CRIMINAL IS A RAPIST IS A PEDOPHILE IS A THIEF. AND THAT KIND OF DISCOURSE REALLY BOTHERS ME. THESE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS. THESE ARE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU AND I HAVE LIVED IN AN APARTMENT. MOST OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY LIVED IN AN APARTMENT AT SOME TIME IN YOUR LIFE. MY 
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MOTHER, MY 85 YEAR OLD MOTHER. LIVES IN AN APARTMENT. I DON'T THINK SHE'S EVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT COMMITTING A CRIME IN HER LIFE. SHE LIVES IN, UM SHE WAS UP IN THE NORTHEAST. IN AN APARTMENT THAT IS FOR STORIES BECAUSE IT'S FOUR STORIES. IT HAS, UH, IT HAS ELEVATORS. AND SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SHE CAN LIVE ON A DIFFERENT FLOOR BECAUSE SHE CAN'T CLIMB STAIRS. SHE'S BROKEN HER HIP A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE SHE DOES THINGS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MY MOM DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT SHE'S 85. AND SHE WOULDN'T WANT TO GO TO AN OVER 55 COMMUNITY BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH OLD PEOPLE. UM BUT IT ALLOWS HER. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A SENIOR FACILITY, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE AND PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, MY MOM AND DAD . THEY STOPPED LIVING IN A HOUSE WHEN THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, WE JUST CAN'T. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE UPKEEP ON THIS ANYMORE. WE'RE TOO OLD FOR IT, AND SO THEY MOVED INTO AN APARTMENT. SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE UPDATE. SO FOR FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN WHO HAVE LIVED AND SAY, I DON'T WANNA DO IT ANYMORE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE. YOU KNOW, MILES AND MILES FROM WHERE YOU'VE LIVED YOUR LIFE. UM SO THAT THAT THAT REALLY WEIGHS HEAVILY ON ME. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT THESE ARE NOT AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE ANY KIND OF DECISION BASED ON YOU KNOW THE TYPE OF PEOPLE OR WHETHER WE KNOW WHO THESE ARE GOING TO BE RENTED TO, BUT BUT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE VERY CLEAR. THESE ARE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. THESE ARE PEOPLE. PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY FOR THIS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY OF THE INCOME. TWO. TO GO TO RESTAURANTS TO BRING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES HERE. UM AS FOR, UH, YOU ASK FOR TRAFFIC YOU KNOW CENTERVILLE CAN HANDLE. 
          SUPPOSEDLY I MEAN, IT'S SIX LINE ROAD IT CAN HANDLE ABOUT 55,000 CARS A DAY. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER THAT, UM THE TRAFFIC MUCH. THERE ARE LOTS OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH 6 35 THAT WHEN I WAS ON COUNTABLE, THEY WERE TOLD ME WE'RE GOING TO BE SOLVED WHEN 6 35 WAS FINISHED. UM SUPPOSEDLY SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, IN THE COUNCIL REGULARLY, AND I HAVE TO RECOMMEND WATCHING YOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS IN A REGULAR UPDATES ON THIS STUFF. UM SO. YOU KNOW, IN IN I DO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO GO AHEAD. I WOULD ASK THAT. THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AVAILABLE. TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND HOW TRAFFIC AFFECTS THINGS AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO WORK AT THE SAME TIME. NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO WORK. A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME. UM, SO I'D ASK THAT THAT THEY DO THAT. AND THAT YOU ALL HAVE SOME REAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IMPACTS BECAUSE IT'S SERIOUS. I KNOW. I MEAN, I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THERE AND I'M DOWN THAT WAY ALL THE TIME. UM I MIGHT HAVE EVEN CUT DOWN THE ALLEY A FEW TIMES. UM AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT SPEED BUMPS AND VALLEYS AND SPEED BUMPS. OTHER PLACES WILL NEVER BE SPEED BUMPS ON CENTERVILLE. UM BUT BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. WE CAN'T DO RED LIGHT CAMERAS ANYMORE BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO RED LIGHT CAMERAS ANYMORE, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE WORST INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY FOR RED LIGHT RUNNING RIGHT THERE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT IN NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IN CENTERVILLE, RIGHT CENTER ROHAN LBJ. I WILL TELL YOU. THEY'RE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. UH AND THE FACT THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE BARRED US FROM HAVING RED LIGHT CAMERAS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STILL REALLY BOTHERS ME FROM MY TIME ON COUNCIL. UM CAN I THINK IT PUTS IT PUTS THE PUBLIC AT RISK. IT PUTS OFFICERS AT RISK TRYING TO ENFORCE THEM. 
          UM YOU KNOW, WE DON'T OWN THIS. THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THIS. UM IT'S GONNA GET DEVELOPED. IT'S GOING TO BECOME SOMETHING I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE. I WOULD LOVE I WOULD HAVE LOVED FOR THE CITY TO OWN IT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THAT TWO PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, WHY DIDN'T THE CITY DO SOMETHING WITH IT? AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T BUY EVERYTHING. UM AND IT WAS NOT AT THE TIME THAT WE HAD UNDER CONTRACT. SO, UM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPETING THINGS HERE. 
          UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DO WANT TO VERY MUCH. LISTEN TO THE OPINIONS. I'VE LISTENED TO Y'ALL'S OPINIONS I'VE LISTENED TO. I WANT TO LISTEN TO THE OPINIONS HERE. UM BUT REALLY COMES DOWN TO CAN WE DO BETTER AT THIS LOCATION? BECAUSE I'VE SAID BEFORE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING I CAME ONTO COUNCIL BEFORE IT CAME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I POSED MANY WAREHOUSES BEING BUILT AT THE FORMER HIGH PROMOTE MARK SITE, AND MY POINT WAS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER THAN THAT. YEAH, I STILL BELIEVE THAT AND I THINK WE WILL. UH, WHEN 6 35 IS FINISHED AND WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER AT THIS LOCATION? YOU KNOW? I HAVE NOT. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER 
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THAT'S GOING TO COME ALONG HERE GIVEN WHAT THE COST IS GIVEN WHAT THE WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE BUILT HERE BY RIGHT NOW, NOBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AND BUILD US. NOBODY'S GOING TO BUILD 30 STORIES HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S YOU KNOW, BUT COULD SOMEONE COME IN AND BUILD SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL? REALLY DON'T LIKE? COULD SOMEONE COME IN AND BUILD A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, WOULD FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS OR SOMETHING? BE WORSE? YES, ABSOLUTELY WOULD. AND YOU KNOW, AND IT. SO THAT'S MY TENDENCY. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING. I BUT I VERY MUCH WANT TO HEAR AND AGAIN. THIS IS VERY MUCH YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. THIS WE DECIDE. I ENCOURAGE YOU. I INSIST. THE JOB CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION THAT YOU REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. UM THAT YOU REACH OUT WHEN POSSIBLE TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT OTHER CHANGES CAN BE MADE. UM I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF PUTTING IN THE KIND OF THE CARPORTS OR OTHER STUFF THAT WE WOULD LIMIT THE ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURALLY WOULD LIMIT THE IMPACT. AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL ALL OF YOU EVERY ONE OF YOU. UM COME BACK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S WHERE THE REAL DECISION GETS MADE. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE REAL DECISION GETS MADE THEIR AND YOUR CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT IS CRITICAL. AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU BECAUSE THERE'S I'M I'M REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, GETTING PEOPLE ENGAGED AND INTERESTED. I MEAN, I WISH I WOULD COME TO MORE MEETINGS. AND, UM BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I AM ON IT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE THOUGHTS OF MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER DALTON THIS ILLEGAL QUESTION. CAN WE RECOMMEND A DELAY ON THIS UNTIL THE APPLICANT MATES WITH THE, UH RESIDENTS THERE AND WORKS OUT SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND THEN COMES BACK TO US. NO, OKAY. AND WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS SOME LEGALESE AT THE STATE IMPOSED ON US THAT WE CANNOT POSTPONE CASES LIKE WE USED TO. THAT'S THAT'S THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION OF STATE LAW. COMMISSION DONG. THAT WAS A NICE ONE. WE COULD POSTPONED FOR ONE MEETING CAN GET SOME MORE INPUT. UH AH. COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE CROSSED MY MIND. TRAFFIC ON CENTERVILLE ROAD. SOMETIMES MY TYPICAL DAILY TRAVEL IS DOWN THE PRADA TO LBJ. AND THAT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC BURDEN EVERY WEEK OR SO THERE'S MORE CARS. AND PART OF THAT IS THE LBJ REBUILD BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUST STARTED. DOING MAJOR WORK AT THE PRADA AND LBJ INTERSECTION AND THEY CLOSED. THE RAMPS AT OATS, FORCING ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC OVER THE LBJ. SO I FEEL FOR ANYONE FIGHTING THE LBJ TRAFFIC. UM. LBJ IS SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED THE END OF NEXT YEAR. AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT I'VE GOT SOME OCEANFRONT PROPERTY IN ARIZONA. AH WHEN IT'S FINISHED, WILL THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT? CENTERVILLE? YEAH. BUT HOW MUCH WE DON'T KNOW. 
          NOBODY KNOWS THAT THIS POINT BECAUSE TRAFFIC CONTINUES. TO INCREASE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE BUILDING BIGGER ROADS. WHAT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, AS COMMISSIONER ROSE SUGGESTED, BE A BENEFIT. IT WOULD BE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO ANYONE AROUND ON ANY OF THE OTHER STREETS. COMING OUT OF THERE. UH SEVERAL THINGS WERE TALKED ABOUT 11 THING BEING UH, YOU KNOW, A CRIMINAL ELEMENT JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE. I LIVE IN WHAT'S CONSIDERED A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND. RECENTLY IN AN INQUIRY ONLINE, I DISCOVERED ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. ONLY ABOUT 100 YARDS FROM ME WAS A CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WHERE THERE'S FOUR AND $500,000 HOMES. SO IT'S NOT LIMITED. TO ANYONE PLACE OR NOT MORE IN ANY ONE PLACE. FOUR STORY APARTMENTS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THEM. TO REACH STORY. I THINK I COULD LIVE WITH THE IMAGES THEY SHOWED APPEARED. IF IT WAS THREE STORY, NONE OF THEM WOULD BE LOOKING INTO ANYONE'S BACKYARD. AND I DO AGREE THAT PEOPLE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO STAND OUT IN THEIR BEDROOM WINDOW, LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND HIM. 50 60 70 FT AWAY. UM . THE CARPORTS. YEAH THAT WOULD BE OF A BENEFIT ALSO. MY OVERALL 
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FEELING AT THIS POINT IS I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS. STILL I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME MORE THINGS, SAID BEFORE WE GET TO A FINAL VOTE ON IT. UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. THIS IS THIS REALLY IS A VERY TOUGH DECISION FOR ME. UM BECAUSE I AM A WORKING PROFESSIONAL. YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THOSE I GET UP IN THE MORNING AND I'M HAVING TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC. UH I LIVE IN GARLAND. I WORK IN DALLAS. AND MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE TRAFFIC . UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? AND THE MORE I HEAR DIFFERENT COMMENTS, THE MORE PEOPLE HAVE SAID DIFFERENT THINGS. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE LIVE IN THE CITY. I MEAN, THE REALITY IS THAT THERE'S TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SO MY ISSUE IS TRAFFIC. BUT I'M CONFLICTED BECAUSE I EMPATHIZE AND I UNDERSTAND HAVING TO GET TO WORK AT A CERTAIN TIME OR GET SOMEWHERE AND, YOU KNOW, PICK UP SOMEONE OR GET YOUR KIDS AND YOU'RE HAVING TO WAIT AT A LIGHT OR AH, WAIT TO GET OUT OF YOUR AREA. IT'S JUST IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ALL OF US. UM I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE OKAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT. I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT AND. YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN JUST WAYS FOR THE CITY. TO BE BETTER IS A GOOD THING. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING . AND UM I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED THERE, SO I AM LISTENING FOR MORE LISTENING FOR YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE CAN SAY THAT'S GONNA MAKE ME JUST YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY. GO ONE WAY OR GO THE OTHER, BUT THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME. YES, IT'S MY TURN. OKAY UM, FIRST, A LITTLE A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING. WE MAY END UP NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT BECAUSE OUR BYLAWS SAY THAT FOR SOMETHING TO PASS, IT HAS TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION, NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION HERE, SO IT TAKES FIVE VOTES FOR US TO PASS. ANY MOTION WHETHER IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE OR MOTION TO DENY. AND WHAT THAT MAY HAPPEN, IT WOULD GO FORWARD AS MOST AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. BUT ONE THING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT OUR COUNCILS PAST PROBABLY 10 YEARS. 
          PLUS IS THEY DO LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY THEY'LL MAYBE PLAY IT WHILE THEY'RE AT WORKER DO SOMETHING, SO MY COMMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIRECTED AT COUNCIL. AND WE'RE DOWN TO SIX COMMISSIONERS HERE. SO TWO VOTES, YOU KNOW WE CAN'T GO FORWARD. FIRST OF ALL. THERE NEEDS TO BE A CENTERVILLE STUDY. NOT JUST FOR THIS. I THINK, AND IT MAY NOT HAPPEN UNTIL LBJ'S PRETTY WELL FINISHED, BUT I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY AND CENTERVILLE AND I THINK WHEN IT GETS THE COUNCIL, SOMEBODY FROM TRAFFIC MAY WANT TO BE THERE TO ADDRESS THAT. UM AND THERE MAY BE INCLUSION OF SOME LIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS. UH AND I COULD SEE , UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. 
          MAYBE ONE OF THE ENTRANCES HAS A DECELERATION LANE LEFT TURN IN LANE, SO THEY'RE NOT ROOTING, JUST SLOWING DOWN, SLOWING TRAFFIC EVERYWHERE AND INTERNING , AND MAYBE THERE'S A TWO OR THREE CARS STACKING WHERE THEY CAN PULL OVER. REST OF PEOPLE. IT'S LITTLE THINGS THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPER BLOCKED OFF THE ACCESS TO THAT SIDE STREET THAT WAS NEW TO US. ONCE THEY PUT IT ON THE DETAILED PLAN, IT ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GET THROUGH THERE. THAT WAS GOOD BECAUSE WITH THE TRAFFIC ON. CENTERVILLE THEY'D ALL BE GOING OUT THERE AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO THAT IS KIND OF UNDER CONTROL. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE MAKE SURE HAS POINTED OUT THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS OR COMMISSIONERS HERE IS THE CARPORT IDEA CARPORT WITH A HIGH PITCHED ROOF TO ADD AS AN EXTRA VISUAL BARRIER, I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY. AH! IN THE FOUR STORY THAT IS MY BIG BUGABOO RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY THEY HAVE OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS THEY HAVE. THEY'RE ASKING TO CUT IN HALF. THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE AREA. PART OF THAT RESULTS, AND WE DON'T HAVE REALLY ENOUGH LANDSCAPING SPACE WHERE THOSE BUSHES THEY WANT TO PUT BY THE WHAT SO I THINK THEY MAY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT SOME UNITS AND GETS MORE LANDSCAPING. DENSITY DENSITY CAN WORK. BUT WE 
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NEED THAT OTHER STUFF, MAYBE EVEN A STEP DESIGN WORK. THREE STORIES HERE. THE HOUSES AND THEN STEP UP TO FOUR STORY BY THE STREET, A LITTLE LITTLE INNOVATIVE THINKING MAY GET THEM THERE. YEAH MAYBE THEY GO DOWN TO THE 150 UNITS SUGGESTED. AND THEY TALKED. THEY COULDN'T PUT THE TREES AT THE WALL BECAUSE OF THE OVERHEAD UTILITIES. AND YET WE JUST HEARD THAT THEY'RE THINKING OF PUTTING THOSE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND SO HE COULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE CAN'T BE TREES AT THE WALL, WHICH WOULD SERVE ANOTHER BARRIER. NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AROUND THERE ALREADY, BUT WE WOULD LEAD HIM NEED HIM AT THE AREAS WHERE THE TREES ON THE HOMEOWNER SIDE DON'T COVER THAT. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS AND, UH YOU KNOW, SOMEONE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL EVER GONE THROUGH THIS? I LIVE IN NORTH GARLAND. I'M NOT HEARING YOU SHOULD TRAVEL TRAVEL CENTERVILLE A LOT, AND LIKE I SAID, I WENT DOWN THERE TODAY AND, OH, THAT'S FUN. I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU'RE COMING IN THAT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES. BUT I CAUGHT ONE OF THE FIRST VOTES I MADE 16 17 YEARS AGO WAS FOR SOME APARTMENTS. NEAR MY HOUSE. 
          WELL, I GOT CALLED UP BY THE JOY. WE HAD A BIG MEETING THAT YOU'D ME UP ONE SIDE DOWN THE OTHER. IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND HAVE FAILED. WELL, NOW WE'VE GOT 600 APARTMENTS. UH THROUGH ANOTHER ZONING DEAL, AND IT HASN'T HAD THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT. BUT WE'VE BEEN LUCKY THEY'LL GO IN THE OTHER DIRECTION TO GET TO 1 90, BUT IT HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE TO CHANGE ONE THING. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE. I KNOW I DON'T LIKE IT. BUT WE TRY TO MANAGE IT THE BEST WE CAN RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK I CAN VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE OF THE FOUR STORY ASPECT OF IT AND IT IS ALL CRAMMED IN THERE, TOO, WHERE SOME OF THE AMENITIES AND LANDSCAPE AREA ARE NOT AVAILABLE. ANY OTHER INPUT. COMMISSIONER HA BEEN, I GOT YOU. 
          AGAIN. GOTCHA. THIS TIME YOU CAN MAKE ME MAKE THE MOTION. UH YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT HIM, UM NO, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT UM GOING TO REDUCING THE STORIES. WOULD ELIMINATE THE ELEVATORS. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. GOES TO THREE THAT WE KNOW ELEVATORS. UM IN THE ACCESSIBILITY IS A BIG PIECE OF IT, AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE, THEN STEPPED, WOULD AH BUT RECOGNIZE RECOGNIZING THAT THIS NEEDS TO GET FIVE VOTES TO PASS. AND SO MAY NOT. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE FENCE BE 8 FT. AND THAT. UM I FORGET EXACTLY HOW WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT. WE MAKE AN ALLOWANCE FOR CARPORTS. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE BE CARPORT BUT OH, WELL, A COUNCIL DEAL WITH THAT. COUNTRY. FOUR. OKAY MASK. WERE YOU THINKING OF AN 8 FT FENCE OR SOLID MASONRY? I'M SORRY. APOLOGIZE SOLID MISSIONARY, ONE THAT MIGHT BE BUT 80 EIGHT. 
          OKAY? ANY OTHER. SO THAT BE IT. THAT'S THE MOTION. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVED. ITEMS AND MG ZONING AND THE DETAILED PLAN WITH THE PROVISION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN 8 FT MASONRY, SOLID MASONRY FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES WITH THE RESIDENT. RESIDENCES OR WAS THAT ALL THE WAY AROUND HER? WITH THE RESIDENCES WITH RESIDENCES AND THAT STAFF MAKE SURE ALLOWANCES ARE MADE IN THERE SHOULD CARPORT BE APPROVED. IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN'T MAKE SECONDS. SORRY. 
          OKAY HEARING NO SECOND RELAX FOR A SECOND MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND CHAIR LINE. ENTERTAIN WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET, UH, COLONEL ENTERTAINING ANOTHER MOTION. ARE YOU TRYING TO GET IN HERE? COMMISSIONER ROSE COMMISSIONER ROSE. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE IT ON THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION. I THINK WE HAVE TO TRY TO VOTE EITHER WAY, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. THEN IT WOULD MOVE ON TO COUNSEL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS IT DENIAL. OKAY, I MOVE WE DENY . OKAY A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO DENY THE APPLICATION. AND AGAIN REMEMBER, FOLKS WERE ONLY RECOMMENDING BODY. ANY 
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DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. THE MOTION IS TO DENY. THAT THAT PASSES 5 TO 1, SO MOTION IS TO DENY MOVING FORWARD. AT THIS. EXCUSE ME AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO LET THE AUDIENCE WORK THEIR WAY OUT SO WE CAN GET THE NEXT CASE HEARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE. 
          WE'RE BACK TO OUR MAY 22ND MEETING AND WE HAVE ONE MORE CASE AND THE GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN 
          [4H.			 	Consideration of the application of Smiths-Haven, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Neighborhood Office (NO) District. This property at 1521 and 1613 Rowlett Road. (District 3) (File Z 23-13)]
VERY PATIENT. CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SMITH HAVEN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN 15, 21 AND 16 13 ROLE AT ROAD. I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARTER, YOU MAY BE IN HERE SOMEWHERE, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS THAT THEY WISH THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS HER? SO FAR. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, SIR. OKAY? JOURNAL ENTERTAINED MOTION OR DISCUSSION CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON. I MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. HMM. AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. OF THE CHANGE OF ZONING. MOTION BY COMMISSION, DALTON'S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE CHANGES OWNING ON ITEM FOR H. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF
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