[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
[00:00:09]
GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JUNE 12TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE WE'LL BE HEARING STAFF BRIEFINGS AND DISCUSSING BACK AND FORTH AFTERWARDS THROUGH WITH THAT WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEE NOW. RIGHT? OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT, THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 13 02 FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT A MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING WALMART SUPERCENTER. THE WALMART IS LOCATED AT 5302 NORTH GARLAND AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS BOWLER ENGINEERING TEXAS LLC AND THE SITE IS 20.22 ACRES. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY. AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE GENERAL AREA AND IS GENERALLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND PDS THAT LIKE FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH THE BASED ZONING, UM, YOU'LL FIND OTHER RETAIL GROCERY UM AND OTHER RESTAURANT ESTABLISHMENTS WITH ONE MULTI FAMILY, UM, SENIOR LIVING TO THE SOUTH. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LIST THIS AREA AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS TYPE OF AREAS SURVIVING NUMEROUS ROADS AND HIGHWAYS, MAYBE MAYBE DEVELOPED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAJOR ARTERIAL STREETS. UM HIGHWAYS IN TERMS OF TURNPIKE CORRIDORS. PROPOSED USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. UM AND THE FIRST PHOTO YOU CAN SEE PART OF THE NURSERY THAT WILL PART OF THE NURSERY WILL BE REMOVED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE CLINIC EXPANSION. HERE ARE MORE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. UM THE CLINIC WILL INCLUDE CLINIC SERVICES, PRIMARY CARE, DENTAL IDEOLOGY, DENTAL IMAGING AND POINT OF CARE LAB SERVICE. THERE WILL BE NO OVERNIGHT NON AMBULATORY, URGENT CARE NOR ANESTHESIA FROM USES PROVIDED HERE. UM TWO PARKING SPOTS WILL BE REMOVED. WALMART HAS STATED AND THE PROJECT ENGINEER THAT IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE SITE. NOR WILL IT THE DEVELOPMENT. UM PROVIDE ANY MEANINGFUL CHANGE IN TRAFFIC FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER.
HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 13 02 FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT A MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING WALMART SUPERCENTER STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC ON THE PROPERTIES OWNED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, 13 02. 44 NOTIFICATION LETTERS WERE SENT OUT AND ZERO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROSE TIMING. IS INVOLVED IN THIS. I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA GET AFTER IT, AND THEY JUST WANT TO GET IT REZONED, SO MAYBE THEY CAN DO IT. UM IT'S TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL WISH TO DEVELOP THIS, UM THEY'VE BEEN DOING OTHER STUFF OVER AT THE STORE THERE AND THAT I MET. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO STRANGE THINGS SOMETIMES. OKAY, THANKS. I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE SECOND AND FINAL ZONING CASE TONIGHT IS THE 23 16. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLER FOR USE. PREVIOUSLY AN APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE SAME CAR WASH AND ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2023 AND 8 TO 1 APPROVAL FOR A 30 YEAR. SCP WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLAN COMMISSION. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 26 41 BELTLINE ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS SHAMIS GARLAND LLC, AND THE SITE IS 1.185 ACRES. HERE'S WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY. AND HERE'S
[00:05:07]
WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE LOCATION OR THE GENERAL AREA . IT IS MAINLY SURROUNDED BY COMMUNITY RETAIL USES, UM YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL FIND THINGS LIKE RETAIL AND ANOTHER CAR WASH IN THE CORNER. UM YOU'LL ALSO FIND A MULTI FAMILY, UH, REHABILITATION CARE CENTER TO THE NORTH PD 14 49. AND A PRIVATE SCHOOL TO THE WEST AT PD 97 01. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING. AND THESE AREAS PROVIDE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND HIGHER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.THESE AREAS ACCOMMODATE USES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE, RETAIL OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. UM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION TO THE DUMPSTER LOCATION. UM CURRENTLY, THE DUMPSTER IS IN FRONT WHEN IT IS REQUIRED FOR THE DUMPSTER TO BE OR THE REFUSE CONTAINER TO BE BEHIND THE BUILDING. HOWEVER DUE TO A SITE DESIGN AND A CHALLENGE, IT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF THE DUMPSTER OR THE REFUSE CONTAINER WILL BE SCREENED AND COVERED BY LANDSCAPING. AND THE E. W S DEPARTMENT WAS OKAY WITH THE DESIGN AND LOCATION. HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL. UM STAFF ALSO FINDS THAT THE PROPOSAL WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE RECENTLY ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY PLAN. UM WE BELIEVE THAT CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO, UH, WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN AUTO RELATED USES OR STANDALONE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THE BEST USE FOR THIS LOCATION. 24 NOTIFICATION LETTERS WERE SENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED ONE SPOT RUN RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL FOR WHICH WAS WITHIN THE CIRCLE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SURE.
COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU. UH HUH. JUST CAME BY US BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND WE PASSED IT CORRECT. CORRECT BUT THEN THEY WITHDREW IT. YES, SIR. AFTER IT HAD BEEN APPROVED. YES SIR. IT WAS WITHDRAWN BETWEEN THE PLAN COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 13TH IN THE CITY COUNCIL THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO, UM, IT WAS WITHDRAWN FOR THE PURPOSE OF AH, MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. OKAY, EVEN THOUGH I DID PAST US AND ON THE WAY TO CITY COUNCIL YES, SIR. FIRST TIME AROUND WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL OR DENIAL? I DON'T RECALL IT WAS APPROVAL. 8 TO 1, SIR. CHANGES BEING WHAT HAS COME FORTH FROM CITY COUNCIL SINCE THAT TIME IS WHY IT'S NOW REQUESTED TO BE A DENIAL. YES, WE RECENTLY. UM YOU KNOW, UH, STUDY THE RECENTLY ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH RECOMMENDED OR WHICH GAVE US THE CONSIDERATION WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN AUTO RELATED USES WOULD BE BEST DONE. VACANT PROPERTIES LIKE THIS, RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION. WAS IT APPROVED? YOU SAID 8 TO 1. WAS THAT BY THE PLAN COMMISSION OR WHAT? YES SIR. IT WAS APPROVED DATA ONE BY THE PLAN COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 13TH OF THIS YEAR. NEVER GOT TO COUNCIL. YEAH. GROUP. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, SIR . OKAY, SO AND I BELIEVE THAT'S LAST ITEM.
[Call to Order]
WELCOME BACK TO THE JUNE 12TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM.WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. TONIGHT'S PARENT PLEDGE WE LED BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
VIGOROUS GYM. PLEASE BUY YOUR HEADS. EVERYTHING CREATOR. WE HUMBLY APPROACH YOU AND PRAISE OF YOUR GLORY AND MERCY. WE THINK YOU DESPITE OUR CIRCUMSTANCES. AND ASKED FOR THE WORLD BEING OF OUR CITY DESPITE OUR INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVANT LEADERS SUCH AS FORMER AND NEW COUNCILMAN SMITH AND ART. AND THANK YOU FOR THE HER HEROISM.
HEROISM EXCUSE ME FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND THE COURAGE OF OUR TEACHERS. WE ASKED IN OUR PRAISE FOR WISDOM. THAT WE THAT WE THAT THAT WE WALK AMONG THAT SHE WALKED AMONG US AND GUIDE
[00:10:08]
OUR DECISIONS. THIS WE PRAY. AMEN. NOW PLEASE JOIN WITH US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES ARE COMPARED AND TO PUBLIC FOR WHICH YOU CHANGE ONE NATION UNDER GOD. YES AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T READ IT.WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME BACK. AS SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN. WE'VE GOT SPEAKER CARDS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, PLEASE FILL ONE OF THESE OUT AND INTO THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY AND WE'LL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE. IF THEY'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. WE DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME THAN WE ASKED THE APPLICANTS BACK UP TO RESPOND.
AND WHAT I DO NEED FROM EVERYBODY'S PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD INTO THE MICROPHONE. FOR THE RECORD. WE DO NEED THAT FOR OUR MINUTES. ALRIGHT WE WILL START WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA CONCERNED AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE. IN ONE VOTE. I WILL CALL THE ITEMS OUT AND HE COMMISSIONER UH, SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WORK WHICH IS NOT REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. JUST
[CONSENT AGENDA]
LET ME KNOW. AND WE WILL DO THAT. CONCERNING AGENDA ITEM ONE. A CONSIDER APPROVAL. THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAY 22ND 2023 MEETING. ALRIGHT, I'M TO A PLAN 23-18 CENTERVILLE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER REPLANT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY WISHING AN ITEM REMOVED. CNN TO APPROVE. ALRIGHT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS IT GOING TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND AND A SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER DALTON THIS IS TO IMPROVE THE CONCERN AGENDA. MISTAKEN. HERE WE GO. YEAH. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND PEARS ALL RIGHT. ONTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.[Items 3A & 3B]
FIRST ONE IS A TWO PARTER. UM, ZONING REQUEST AND FOR PD AMENDMENT AND A PLAN ITEM THREE A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF BOWLER ENGINEERING TEXAS LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 13-02 FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT A MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING WALMART SUPERCENTER. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 53 0 TO NORTH GARLAND AVENUE AND ITEM THREE B CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF BOWLER ENGINEERING. TEXAS LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLINIC EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING WALMART SUPERCENTER. SAME ADDRESS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. I COULD ASK IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. GO AHEAD, SIR. MATTHIAS ALBERT 2600 NETWORK BOULEVARD SUITE 3 10 IN FRISCO, TEXAS. UM I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SOME SLIDES IN FRONT OF YOU. THEY'RE PROBABLY YOUR MONITORS AND A STAFF REPORT. BUT UM, THE GENERAL SYNOPSIS HERE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK WITH WALMART. THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD A 55 100 SQUARE FOOT HEALTH CLINIC THAT WILL CONSIST OF A VARIETY OF HEALTH SERVICES. BUT OBVIOUSLY DENTAL MEDICAL. THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BIG UMBRELLAS THAT THOSE FALL UNDERNEATH. WITH THAT REALLY? NO OTHER REAL SIGNIFICANT STATE PLAN CHANGES. UM THE BIG THING IS THAT WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL A D A PARKING SPACES AS THIS IS A HEALTH CLINIC. UM THE SITE ALREADY MEETS ADA COMPLIANCE BASED ON THE SUPERCENTER. BUT BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH CLINIC, WE ARE ADDING A COUPLE OF IDEAS, SPACES IN FRONT AND JUST WITH THE IDEA REQUIREMENTS AND HAVING LARGER SPACES, TYPICALLY FOR VANS AND LOADING AISLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE ACCESSIBLE, UM, ULTIMATELY, IT'S NOT AS EFFICIENT AS YOUR STANDARD, YOU KNOW, 9 FT PARKING SPACES, SO WITH THAT, WITH THE ADDITION THERE DOES REMOVE TWO PARKING SPACES, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT . ESSENTIALLY THAT STATEMENT OR THAT VARIANCE WITH THE PARKING SPACE REDUCTION BY THOSE TWO SPACES. UM THE ADDITION TO THE BUILDING. UM IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'VE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES IN THE PAST AND REALLY WHAT THAT BRINGS IN IS IT'S MORE OF AN ACCESSORY USED TO THE SUPERCENTER AS A WHOLE, UM, AND SO REALLY, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT IT, IT'S NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. UM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CREATING AN ADDITIONAL WARRANT FOR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES. IT'S JUST AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING SUPERCENTER. SO UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE BASIS. I'M HAPPY ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE, UM, BATTLE BASICALLY PROVIDES FOR BOTH CASES. I KNOW THEY'RE PROBABLY TWO SEPARATE VOTES, BUT, UM, PROBABLY COMBUSTION IS PROBABLY WOULD APPLY TO BOTH. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONER ROSE TIMING ARE YOU[00:15:03]
ON IF COUNCIL APPROVES ALL THIS AS WELL? YOU'RE GOING TO START THE NEXT DAY OR SIX MONTHS OR SIX YEARS? UM PROBABLY NOT THE NEXT DAY. PROBABLY NOT SIX YEARS. UM IT'S A PRE MANUFACTURED BUILDING. UM SO IT'S MANUFACTURED OFF SITE AND ACTUALLY BRING A CRANE TO BRING IN THAT, UM, IT'S SOME EQUATION THAT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE IN TERMS OF WALMART SYSTEM AND HOW THEY SELECT WHICH STORES GO FORWARD, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL PERMITTING PROCESS ONCE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE IT, BUT, UM, I THINK PROBABLY THIS YEAR WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE REALISTIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DO. AND COMMISSION DALTON. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE NOT REMODELING ANY PORTION OF A STORY. YOU'RE ACTUALLY ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE.TO WHAT'S UNDER ONE ROOF. THAT'S CORRECT. IT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL ON THE FRONT OF THE OF THE ACTUAL SUPERCENTER. IT DOES REMOVE SOME OF THE GARDEN SPACE ON THE OUTDOOR GARDEN SALES AREA. UM AND THEN THE 55 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION WILL BE REALLY FRONT AND CENTER ON THAT BUILDING FACADE. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARIS. GOOD EVENING. I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY BUT JUST WANT TO RESTATE AND BE SURE THAT I AM CLEAR THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A T I A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BASED ON THE ADDITION OF THIS UNIT. YEAH WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO ALLEVIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR MR GARRETT.
IS A DEVIATION ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR THE PARKING THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING OUT THERE OR WAS IT TO FEWER SPACES JUST BEING INFORMATIVE DEVIATIONS NOT ENTIRELY NECESSARY. WE WANTED TO NOTE IT ON THE STAFF REPORT. BUT THE G D C DOES GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY ON PARKING. OKAY FOR RETAIL THESE DAYS, SO IT WAS MORE JUST A KIND OF INFORMATIONAL. I DIDN'T SEE IT DIDN'T KNOW IF NEEDED BE INCLUDED IN A MOTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YOU GOT IT. THANKS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES ADDRESSES CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER DALTON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF BOTH THREE A AND THREE B.
OKAY OKAY. LIKE. OKAY ALRIGHTY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PAIRS. TO APPROVE TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ITEM THREE A AND TO PROVE THE DETAILED PLAN ITEM THREE B. YEAH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND THAT'LL BE GOOD SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A FAMILY MEDICAL CLINIC WHERE THE GAS STATION AND FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ARE NOW SO IT'LL KIND OF HELP FILL A GAP THAT IS IT HAS BEEN GONE FOR A FEW YEARS. NEXT ITEMS ARE AGAIN TWO PARTER. CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SAMMY'S GARLAND
[Items 3C & 3D]
LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISIONS FOR AN AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE ON PROPERTIES OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2641 BELTLINE ROAD. AND ITEM THREE D IS CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION OF SAMMY'S GARLAND LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR OF A PLAN FOR AN AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE, SAYING ADDRESS AND THE AFRICAN. I BELIEVE JOHN YOUNG IS HERE. GOOD EVENING, JOHN YOUNG 27 27.LBJ FREEWAY SUITE 8 15 DALLAS, TEXAS. I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF SHIMMIES CAR WASH, AND I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH. UH, PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT WE DID, UM PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE STATE OF THE ART EXPRESS TUNNEL AUTO WASH SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES LOCAL RESIDENTS AND CONSUMERS OF FIRST CLASS QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITY AND EXPERIENCES. CURRENTLY UNDERSERVED. EXPERTS RECOMMEND BI WEEKLY CAR WASHING AND MAINTAIN THE VALUE CONDITION AND SAFETY OF YOUR VEHICLE. UH POSITIVE PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS. UH IT'S ABOUT $5.5 MILLION INVESTMENT. UM EXPRESS CAR WASHES IMPLEMENT THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES IN CONSUMER AUTO WASHING. EXPRESS CAR WASHES ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY VERSUS AT HOME AND SELF SERVE, CAR WASHING. WE'RE COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS PROJECT PROJECT PROVIDES IDEAL PLATFORM FOR LOCAL CLUBS, ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS CONDUCT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FREE FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES. UM. UH
[00:20:03]
CURRENTLY EXPRESS CAR WASHES IN THE COUNTRY ARE AND UNDER SUPPLIED CONSUMER AMENITY, UM EXPRESS CAR WASHING OFFICERS OF SPEED AND CONVENIENCE INCREASINGLY DEMANDED BY U. S.CONSUMERS. U S CONSUMERS EXCUSE ME, CONSIDER PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THAT SAVE TIME AND MONEY TO BE IMPORTANT PROPORTION OF US CONSUMERS WASHING THEIR VEHICLES AT HOME CONTINUES TO DECLINE. 47% IN 1996 AND 22% AND 2019 SO HUGE INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE. UM NUMBER OF CARWASH OPPORTUNITIES REQUIRED TO SERVE A THREE MILE RADIUS IS 218,000 CAR WASHES PER MONTH BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS ON THIS LOCATION? CURRENTLY THERE ARE ONLY 44,000 WASHES PER MONTH AVAILABLE IN THE AREA, AND WE WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL 7350 PER MONTH. WE ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, CONVENIENTLY LOCATED AND SAFE SAFETY OF SELF AND VEHICLE. UM.
WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS POPULATION. HERE IS 134,000. DRIVING AGE, THERE'S ROUGHLY 100,000 PROFESSIONAL CARWASH CUSTOMERS, 78,000. BASED ON INDUSTRY DATA, PROFESSIONAL CARWASHES REQUIRED 218,000 SO QUITE A DELTA AND QUITE UNDERSERVED MARKET HERE. WE'RE OPEN FROM 8 TO 8. HAVE FULLY UNIFORMED STAFF ON SITE MANAGEMENT 2 TO 4 ATTENDEES DAILY. EXCELLENT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR HIGH SCHOOL AND YOUNG ADULTS. WE DON'T ALLOW ANY LOITERING OR NOISE PERMITTED. SORRY NO. AFTER HOURS ACCESSIBILITY, WE TURN EVERYTHING OFF AT NIGHT. WE ACTUALLY REMOVE THE VACUUM HOSES, SO THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S OPERATIONAL AFTER HOURS. AND WE DO HAVE QUITE AN EXTENSIVE SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM AT THESE LOCATIONS. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE THE WAY IT EXISTS TODAY. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2600 BELTLINE ROAD. SOME BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT. THERE ARE THREE QUEUING LANES AND THE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT FEED INTO THE ENTRANCE OF THE TUNNEL. AND THEN VACUUM, UH, STATIONS OUT ALONG THE BELTLINE ROAD. SO PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH SERVICES SAVE WATER BY USING HIGH PRESSURE NOZZLES AND PUMPS.
THIS EQUIPMENT LESS THE PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH CLEAN CARS THOROUGHLY WITH A FRACTION OF THE WATER HOME CARWASH USERS. PROFESSIONAL CAR WASH CHEMICALS ARE BIODEGRADABLE AND WATER IS RECYCLED ON SITE AND FILTERED BEFORE ENTERING THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. HOME CAR WASHING RELEASES CONTAMINATED WATER DIRECTLY INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. OR INTO STORM DRAINS INTENDED FOR RAIN WATER. THIS CAUSES POLLUTION IN OUR OCEANS, RIVERS, LAKES AND STREAMS. HOME WASHING ENGINEERING STUDIES SHOW THAT A TYPICAL GARDEN HOSE USES APPROX APPROXIMATELY 150 TO 250 GALLONS . PROFESSIONAL CAR WASHES USE 15 TO 28 GALLONS PER CAR. UM TRAFFIC BELTLINE ROAD TRAFFIC.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS ACCESSED ON EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND WE'LL PULL CARS OFF OF BELTLINE PRO ROAD. THE PROJECT WILL NOT ANY ADD ANY VOLUME TO THE DRIVE BY TRAFFIC PROJECT DESIGN ALLOWS FOR 26 VEHICLES TO STACK PRIOR TO ENTERING THE CAR WASH. AND THE ENTIRE SITE CAN HOLD OVER 50 CARS, BOTH FAR MORE THAN I EVER EXPECTED IN ANY TIME, UH, THE AVERAGE TIME ON SITE IS GENERALLY LESS THAN 10 MINUTES. I WILL ADD ON HERE. WE DIDN'T MEET WITH THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER. UM AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THE PROJECT ON THE TRAFFIC. UM NOISE LEVELS . THE TECHNICAL LOGICAL ADVANCES HAVE ALSO ADDRESSED ANY NOISE ISSUES SO THAT MODERN WASHINGTON DO NOT GENERATE ANY MORE INCREMENTAL NOISE THAN GENERAL TRAFFIC FOR REFERENCE. TYPICAL HOME LAWNMOWER IS ABOUT 100 DB HEAVY CITY TRAFFIC 85 ARE TUNNEL BLOWERS AT 20 FT. OF 66 AND OUR VACUUMS ARE 54 AS A COMPARISON. POSITIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE PROVIDE NEW QUALITY JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES COMMUNITY SUPPORT INTERACTION WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, CHARITIES AND NONPROFITS WHO ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. UH, AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT. DESIRABLE COMMUNITY AMENITY FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED SYSTEMS FOR THE FACILITATE REDUCED WATER USAGE. AND THIS IS MY PARTNER AND I HAS CONTACT INFO. SO WE ORIGINALLY WENT THROUGH. BACK IN
[00:25:04]
FEBRUARY. WE WERE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FROM STAFF. WE WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING WERE APPROVED 8 TO 1. AND WE WERE SCHEDULED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE NIGHT BEFORE. UH WE RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION THE NIGHT BEFORE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO COUNCIL.NONE BEFOREHAND. NONE AT PNC. UM SO WE TABLED THE PROJECT SO THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE OPPOSITION. UM, WE HAVE SINCE DONE THAT. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION THAT MY BUSINESS PARTNER, TAREQ AND CAN GO THROUGH HERE SO ACTUALLY TART. YOU WANT TO COME ON UP? OKAY? AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, OKAY? AND WE'LL NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. TO MACDOUGALL E 37 13 WREXHAM STREET IN FRISCO. UH UM. DO YOU HAVE THE OTHER PRESENTATION OR NO? I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF A SPECIFIC SERIES OF EVENTS AND THE TIMELINE AND SERIES OF EVENTS REALLY MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE LIKE HE MIGHT. MY PARTNER STATED THEIR OPPOSITION THE NIGHT BEFORE OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING , SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE I REACHED OUT TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOL. AND I TEXTED MR SIDE WHO WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE SCHOOL. THIS IS ME REACHING OUT TO HIM. THOSE ARE TEXT MESSAGES FROM HIM LIKE YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE TWO OF US, UH , THAT'S HIM AGREEING TO MEET WITH ME. THIS IS A FOLLOW UP. EMAIL UM, MEANWHILE, WE WOULD WE TRIED TO TABLE THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. 11 WHEN I MET WITH HIM AT THE SCHOOL HE WAS HE WAS NOT PART OF THE SCHOOL. HE WAS A EXPORT MEMBER.
UH I MET WITH THE FACILITIES. UH ENGINEER THERE AND THEN MEMBER IS THERE AS WELL OF THE CHARITY ORGANIZATION. WHAT RUNS THAT SCHOOL AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. UM IN THE MEETING SIDE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO REALLY STATED OPPOSITION TO THIS. AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING, HE SAID, HE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER HE HAS BEEN IN IN THE CITY OF GARLAND FOR 36 YEARS, AND HE USED EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. NOTHING WAS SPECIFIC. AT THE TIME. HE MENTIONED A FEW ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BUT IT WAS NOT SPECIFIC AT ALL. UM THEN. MR SIDE SENT AN EMAIL, NOT EMAIL. I'M SORRY TEXT MESSAGE TO THE ARAB AND MUSLIM COMMUNITY IN DFW AREA TO POST THIS PROJECT ABOUT 300 EMAILS CAME AND IF YOU SEE HERE IN THE TEXT MESSAGE HE'S REQUESTING EVERYONE TO SEND EMAILS AND CALL DYLAN HEDRICK TO CALL MAYOR SCOTT THE MAIN AND EMAIL HIM AND ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO BASICALLY, EVERYONE WAS OVERWHELMED BY THOSE EMAILS. MOST OF THOSE 300 ONLY 27 PEOPLE ARE RESIDENTS OF GARLAND. THEY'RE NOT CONSTITUENTS OF GARLAND. THEY'RE NOT VOTERS IN GARLAND. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SAY IN THIS AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITION. ALL OF IT WAS BUILT BY MR SIDE. UM THEN, HE STATED IN THAT SAME TEXT MESSAGE THAT WE PLANNED ON HAVING THE MEETING IN THE MONTH OF RAMADAN, WHICH IS LIKE A MUSLIM HOLIDAY IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM BREAKING FAST, SO THEY CANNOT ATTEND THE HEARINGS AND DON'T EVEN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT IS NOT TRUE AT ALL. AND FOR THAT REASON I DECIDED WITH MY PARTNERS. TO TABLE IT AGAIN OR TRY TO TABLE IT AGAIN. WE CONTACTED MATTHEW AND, UH, WE TRIED TO TABLE IT BE SAID NO. THE ONLY WAY TO GO IS TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. I SAID, IT'S WORTH IT. WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE OF THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY ON THE TIMING OF MEETINGS OR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, SO WE DECIDED TO DO THAT. UM THEN. WHEN WE WITHDREW THE APPLICATION, MR SIDES SENT ME AN EMAIL AND HE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BUYING THE PROPERTY THREE DAYS AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION. WHICH TELLS ME HE'S ALL ALONG. THIS IS THE EMAIL. HE WAS ALL ALONG INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY FOR LIKE HE WANTED THIS PERSONALLY.
AND THAT WAS THE PUSHBACK FROM THE GET GO LIKE I STATED OUT OF THOSE 300 EMAILS. ONLY 27.
PEOPLE LIVE IN GARLAND AND THEY SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN GARLAND. IT WAS MOBILE LIKE HE MOBILIZED HIS POSITION AS AN EXPORT MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL AND HIS CONNECTIONS. THROUGHOUT THE 6 36 YEARS HAS
[00:30:05]
BEEN HERE TO MOBILIZE OPPOSITION AND IT WAS REALLY FAKE OPPOSITION. AND THIS IS A LETTER FROM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. HE STATES THAT THIS BUSINESS WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE AREA. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE AREA. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ONE. INDIVIDUAL WHO OPPOSES THE PROJECT, OR FEELS LIKE IT SHOULD BE ANOTHER BUSINESS IN THERE REALLY DRIVE WHAT CITIES DECIDE THAT'S NOT PART OF DEMOCRACY FOR SOMEONE TO REALLY STOP THAT, BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO MOBILIZE OPPOSITION AND MAKE IT LOOK THAT THERE IS A HUGE PUSHBACK, WHICH REALLY KIND OF LIKE SPOOKED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY. THOUGHT THAT WAS A FLOOD OF OPPOSITION FOR THIS WHEN IT'S ALL MADE UP BY ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD PERSONAL INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY, AND I LIKE I SAID THE SLIDES SHOW HIS PERSONAL INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S HIS INTENTIONS. AND WHY HE FOUGHT THIS SO HARD. UM I WISH WE APPROVED IT WAY BACK THEN WE'RE HERE TODAY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE OUR POINT CLEARLY, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS OBJECTIVELY AND SEE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. WE DID EVERYTHING THE PROFESSIONAL WAY THE RIGHT WAY. WE APPROACH IT, AND WE WANTED TO REALLY ADD A GREAT SERVICE TO GARLAND. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, UH COMMISSIONER ROSE YES, I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO EITHER ONE OF YOU EXPLAIN. AH! IT FRONTS BELTLINE ROAD IN THE ENTRANCE IS A SIDE ROAD. IS THAT YOURS? OR IS THAT A COMMUNITY ENTRANCE THAT GOES BACK TO THE MUSLIM SCHOOL OR WHAT? NO SIR. SO HOW DO I GET BACK TO THAT? THERE WE GO. SORRY I'M A LORD TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED HERE. OKAY SO IF YOU SEE HERE WHERE THE ENTRANCES ARE, THERE'S A SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT THAT IS. GO AHEAD AND USE YOUR CURSORY.SORRY. OKAY, SO HE HERE THESE TWO ENTRANCES. THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE IS A SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT CURRENTLY WITH THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT'S BEHIND HERE. SO WE DON'T SHARE ANY ENTRANCE OR ANY ROAD WITH THE SCHOOL AT ALL THE SCHOOLS OVER HERE, ALL RIGHT, SO WE DON'T THERE'S A MEDIUM BREAK ON BELTLINE ROAD HERE. SO THESE FOLKS TURN INTO THE SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT THAT EXISTS TODAY. OKAY? ANOTHER QUESTION. YES, SIR. HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO THAT PROPERTY. BUT WHEN SCHOOLS ARE IN SESSION YES, SIR. O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AT TWO OR THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, POLICEMEN OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC, AND THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC THAN YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH. HOW DO YOU? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT? WELL UM, OUR BUSINESS WERE OPEN FROM 88. BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS HAPPENS AFTER WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS, SO WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR BUSINESS COMPLEMENTS THIS ISSUE PRETTY WELL WHERE WE DON'T HAVE. THOSE ARE NOT OUR HIGH TRAFFIC HOURS AT ALL WERE OPEN DURING THOSE HOURS, BUT ARE THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK AND ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU HAVE A COUPLE OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. UH, OR ABOUT HIS MOUTH. OH NOT TESTIFYING HE IS AGAINST. I'M SORRY. UH, IT'S UM I'M SORRY. I WON'T BE ABLE TO PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BUT I BET YOU DO MUCH BETTER JOB.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ISSAM ABDEL KARIM LIVED ON THE ONLY ONE FROM THE GROUP HERE WHO LIVES IN GARLAND, RESIDENT OF GARLAND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AT 21 10 MAPLE VIEW. GARLAND TEXAS 75042, CURRENTLY UNEMPLOYED AT THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S CALLED ISF ISLAMIC SERVICES FOUNDATION DB A BRIGHTER HORIZONS ACADEMY. UM I HOLD THE POSITION AS I SAID EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME IN THE COMMUNITY AND I WOULD LOVE THAT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT. OR OTHER PROJECTS WE AS A COMMUNITY, WE WELCOME. ALL KIND OF BUSINESS IS ALL GOOD AND BUSINESSES. THAT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. GOOD FOR GARLAND. I'M HERE TO OFFICIALLY REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY OF BRIGHTER HORIZONS
[00:35:07]
ACADEMY, AND IT'S MADE OF OVER AND THE 900 STUDENTS OVER 400 FAMILIES, MANY WHO LIVE IN GARLAND. AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. WE HAVE PARENTS WHO DRIVE OR BRING THEIR KIDS TO THIS SCHOOL FROM COLLEYVILLE, IRVING VILLA. IRVING. UM. MCKINNEY SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE NOT FROM GARLAND IS NO. THEY'RE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS SCHOOL AS PART OF GUARANTEE PARENTS STAFF MEMBERS I FORGOT TO MENTION WE HAVE OVER 150 STAFF MEMBERS. THEY ALSO LIVE IN GARLAND OR IN THE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. I WROTE SOME NOTES HERE WHILE I WAS SITTING I DIDN'T WANT AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TARGETING. SO UM, THERE'S SOME COMMENTS BEFORE I FORGET ABOUT THE PROPOSED DIAGRAM. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT BEFORE I FORGET, THAT IS MEANT ROAD IS ALSO SHARED WITH L T. LT IS DOING THE SAME. SAME BUSINESS LIKE WE DO WE PROVIDE EDUCATION. TO OUR KIDS AND THE COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS . LT ALSO BRINGS KIDS FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND DFW. I DON'T HAVE ANY STATS ABOUT THAT AND ALSO HMM. AH, BEFORE I FORGET, ALSO ONE POINT THIS YOU HAD ONE OF YOUR SORRY THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO ASKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT ONLY AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IT STARTS FROM 2 30 PM TO 3 30 TO 4 O'CLOCK. AND IF WE HAVE WE HAVE THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD FOR THE SCHOOL. WE HAVE THE ACTIVITIES. WE ARE PART OF THE TABS. TEXAS. UH. TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS. THERE'S GAMES THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND OUR SCHOOL. WE HAVE A STATE OF THE ART SOCCER FIELD THAT WE HAVE A STATE OF THE ART GYM, SO WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN. SO FOR YOUR QUESTION.IS IT GOING TO IMPACT? YES THAT AREA THAT THAT CAR WASH WILL BE A NICE DROP OFF FOR THE PARENTS.
I WILL USE IT. IF I HAVE THE PROBLEM. I'LL BE USING IT TO DROP MY KIDS. AND I PROMISE YOU THERE WILL. SO AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. AS A RESIDENT, AS, UH, A PARENT. I HAVE FIVE DAUGHTERS. THEY ALL GRADUATED FROM BRIGHTER HORIZONS ACADEMY. THEY ALL FINISHED UTD.
THEY'RE DOING GREAT IN LIFE. THANK GOD AND I HAVE ONE STILL THERE, AND SHE PLAYS SOCCER AND THAT FIELD NEXT TO THAT CAR WASH . WHICH BRINGS US TO 23 ISSUES IN THERE. THE CAR WASH WILL EVENTUALLY AND IT WELL THROUGH THE TURBINE THAT'S PUSHING WHATEVER THAT DIRECTION SOME VAPORS INTO THE SOCCER FIELD. WE DON'T KNOW. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, ESPECIALLY THEIR SOCCER FIELD HAS CHEMICALS, FERTILIZERS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING THE IMPACT ON THE KIDS STUDENTS THERE IS ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION.
NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THOSE TURBANS. AT THE END OF THE CYCLE OF THAT CAR WASH. THEY PRODUCE A LOT OF NOISE. I KNOW IT, SAYS 66 . BUT IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TODAY TOMORROW WHENEVER I GO TO THAT CAR WASH AND THE PROCESS FROM TANDEM, THEN THE STATE OF THE ART CAR WASH. WHICH IS I GO THERE A LOT AND MY DAUGHTER HAS A MEMBERSHIP MONTHLY THERE, AND WE ALL LOVE IT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD CHOICES IN THE AREA. SPEAKING OF CON WASHES, WE HAVE LOTS OF CAR WASHES IN THE AREA.
AND BACK TO THAT CAR WASH. JUST GO TO THE STARBUCKS. JUST STAND AT THE DOOR AND YOU WILL HEAR THE TURBANS. YOU CANNOT EVEN ORDER YOUR STARBUCKS. BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT NOISE. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS OR WHOEVER IS USING THE SENIOR CITIZENS HOME CROSS. FROM THE CAR WASH. IMAGINE YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE IN THE FUTURE.
I COULD BE THERE. THE NOISE THAT'S COMING FROM THE CAR WASH IS SO LOUD. AND I WOULDN'T. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE RIGHT NOW. THEY NEED QUIETNESS. THEY NEED CARE, THEN YOU TOO. ENJOY WHATEVER TIME THEY HAVE IN THEIR, UH, SO BACK TO MY POINTS AND JUST TRYING TO SUM UP. I REPRESENT ALL THOSE FAMILIES. SO THAT'S WHY I NEED THE MORE TIME TO COVER MORE ITEMS. THE REASON NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS CAR WASH AND SUDDENLY YOU HAVE IN A POSITION. BECAUSE TWO MAJOR FAILURE FOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT, BUT THEY DID NOT PUT THE SIGN SAYS PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SITE. THERE WAS NEVER THERE. I DRIVE
[00:40:02]
THERE LIKE THREE OR FOUR TIMES A DAY. YEAH. THE WHOLE YEAR. I LIVE NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM THAT SIDE. SUDDENLY THE COMMUNITY GOT AWARE IN THERE AND THEY WERE WARNED ABOUT THIS KIND OF BUSINESS. IT'S AN EYESORE FOR THE AREA FOR THE FOR THE SCHOOL FOR WHAT THE FUTURE OF THIS AREA SHOULD BE. I MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, WE WELCOME A NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND NEW BUSINESSES TO HELP US OUT IN GARLAND AND HELP US AS A COMMUNITY TO BENEFIT FROM THAT BUSINESS. MR SAEED. I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIM, BUT HE HE WAS APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF OUR ORGANIZATION TO FOLLOW UP IN THIS ISSUE. OUR COMMUNITY CARES , BUT EVERYBODY IS BUSY WITH THE DAILY LIFE WITH A LOT OF OTHER MILLION ISSUES IN THEIR LIVES RATHER THAN HIRE A LOBBYIST TO ATTEND. THE CITY EVERY DAY AND PUSH FOR THE AGENDA. TODAY. I TALKED TO ONE OF THE NICE STAFF MEMBERS HERE AND I SAID, WHAT'S UNDER THAT SIDE AS A GOLDMINE THERE JUST DYING TO BUILD THEIR BUSINESS. I'M SORRY, SO AND BY THE WAY, I'M REALTOR, I'M A LICENSED REALTOR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO GAVE HIM THE IDEA TO BUILD. THERE'S LIKE IT'S A CRAZY IDEA. THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPED AREAS IN WYLIE GARLANDED HASN'T BRED A LOT OF NICE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU COULD BUILD THIS IN A NICE ROADS AND BENEFIT FROM IT. AND WITH THE 5.5 MILLION, UM WITH THIS. I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, UM I'M HERE. SO I WE TALKED TO THE CHURCHES BY THE WAY. NEXT DOOR, SPRING CREEK AND OTHER CHURCH. NOBODY LIKES THE IDEA. UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY'S HERE SO ONCE AGAIN, NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE EVERYBODY'S BUSY IN THEIR DAILY LIFE. AND AS AS A COMMUNITY. I MEAN, WE'D LIKE WE'D LOVE TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE MET WITH THE WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO TALKED TO US AT THE SCHOOL ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE TOLD HIM THERE'S ANOTHER IDEAS YOU COULD BUILD THERE. YOU COULD BUILD MEDICAL. YOU COULD BUILD A DECK. I MEAN, URGENT CARE. YOU COULD BUILD A LOT OF THINGS I EAT. WE EVEN SAID IF YOU BUILD A WAREHOUSE WITH A FRONT RETAIL PLACE. WE CAN RENT IT FOR YOU. THERE IS A NEED FOR A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES IN THIS IN THIS AREA. WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. IF YOU WANT TO. I'M SURE DALTON.COMMISSIONER DALTON WILL JUST SECOND. THERE YOU GO. ACTUALLY MR. CHAIR. I NEED TO SPEAK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO TO RECESS TO DO SO OR IF I JUST NEED TO GO DOWN AND SPEAK TO HIM. PARDON IS IT A LEGAL QUESTION? YOU NEED TO ASK? YES OKAY. WELL COMMISSIONER ROSE HAD A QUESTION OF THIS GENTLEMAN. LET ME DO THAT. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BUT SHORT RECESS BEFORE ASKING IF THERAPISTS PEOPLE AND ONE MORE POINT IF I CAN ADD, OKAY, MR SAY , NEVER INTENDED BY THE BUYING THE LAND FOR HIMSELF. HE CANNOT AFFORD IT. SO HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOR THEM IN THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY OF A B H A. THE SCHOOL. TO DEVELOP IT FOR SOMETHING FOR THE SCHOOL, AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT HIS INTENTIONS WERE NEVER PERSONAL.
AND WE ALL WITNESSED TWO THAT WE KNOW THE GUY FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. CAN'T CONSIDER THIS IS JUST OUR MAT TESTIMONY ABOUT THE GUY HE HAS NEVER BEEN DONE. HE DID NOT DO IT FOR HIS PERSONAL NEEDS. THANK YOU. YES GOING TO YOUR SITE PLAN. IT'S STILL UP THERE. UM THE ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPOSED CAR WASHES OFF OF BELTLINE ROAD. IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, BUT IT SHOWS IT ON THIS OTHER ONE THAT HAS ALL THE CARS ON IT. ANYWAY. IS THAT IS THAT A COMMUNAL ENTRANCE THAT GOES TO OTHER FACILITIES BACK THERE YOUR YOUR SCHOOL THE RETIREMENT. FACILITY BACK THERE OR WHAT? OKAY THERE'S TWO ROADS. ONE IS COMING FROM SHILOH. AND ONE IS COMING FROM BELTLINE. THERE'S AN ACCESS FROM SHILOH SNEAK IN. I WISH THERE IS A BIGGER PICTURE. COMMISSIONER ROSA. THERE ARE TWO ROADS INVOLVED. IF YOU LOOK ON THE SIDE, PLEIN ONE TO THE LEFT. LEADS TO THE SCHOOL, THE ONE TO THE RIGHT. WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAR WASHES LEADS TO THE ASSISTED LIVING, AND I THINK IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL. ONE TO THE RIGHT. CORRECT THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE DIVIDED ENTRANCE. YES THAT'S THAT'S A PRIVATE MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT FOR WHAT IS THE STREET TO THE RIGHT. SORRY TO THE LEFT OF THIS FACILITY. YEAH, GO AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN IS CORRECT THAT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE SHARED ACCESS THAT THIS PROPOSED CAR WASH, IS, UM WOULD BE ACCESS FROM THE LEADS TO THIS IS THE LIVING ONE ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY LEADS UP TO THE INTERNATIONAL THE L T. SO THEY
[00:45:05]
BOTH ARE COMMUNAL ENTRANCE. IS THERE NOT SPECIFIC FOR THIS PROPOSED CARWASH. YES HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THE WESTERN ACCESS POINT IS ACCESSED BY THE CAR WASH. IT'S ONLY THE ONE IN THE EASTERN SIDE. TODAY I MEAN FOR THIS PROPOSAL, COULD THEY NOT MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, THERE'S A OBVIOUS POTENTIAL ENTRANCE OVER HERE AT THE FAR WEST SIDE. YOU KNOW, IF THE TRAFFIC GETS SO BAD, THEY MIGHT SAY, HEY, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T CUT THAT OPEN AND OPEN IT UP. THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED. THERE'D BE SOMETHING IF THIS WERE APPROVED DOWN THE ROAD. DISCUSS IT WITH STAFF, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROPOSED. AND IT COULD. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US COULD TRIGGER A DETAILED PLAN REVIEW TO THE COMMISSION TO AND YEAH, THAT LITTLE SWING THERE. THAT'S WHEN YOU BACK OUT. YOU HAVE SOMEPLACE TO SWING INTO THE MAKE GETTING OUT EASIER. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE A DRIVEWAY HEADED THROUGH, OKAY? DO YOU CARE TO WISH TO SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEY THEN? ALRIGHT WE'RE GOING TO, UH WE'LL COME RIGHT BACK. BUT WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A 10 10 MINUTE RECESS AND FIVE MINUTE RESEARCH AND REST OF US COMMISSIONERS CAN STAY HERE WHILE THE TWO OF THEM TALK ALL OF US. OKAY ALL RIGHT BEFORE I DO THAT, LET ME READ THE STATEMENT, THEN. THE PLAN COMMISSION, MAYBERRY SAYS FROM OPEN SESSION TO CONVENE IN THE CLOSED SESSION IN THE DISCUSSION OF ANY OF THE LISTED AGENDA ITEMS CONCERNS MATTERS REGARDING PRIVILEGE AND AN PRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION DEEMED CONFIDENTIAL RULE BY RULE 1051.05 OF THE TEXAS THIS ELEPHANT SLIPPING AREA RULED I'M DOING WELL TONIGHT OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT SECTION 551. 0.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.WE ARE BACK FROM RECESS. I CAN'T ASK THE LAST SPEAKER, TWO IF YOU COULD COME BACK UP, COMMISSIONER HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. AND COMMISSIONER PARIS. ACTUALLY IT WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR THE APPLICANT BUT MORE FOR STAFF. SO IT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, IS HERE. A COUPLE OF QUICK CLARIFICATIONS, UM, NOTIFICATIONS, SO TYPICALLY, I NOTIFICATIONS GO OUT. I BELIEVE CORRECTLY TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO BEING PRESENTED AT PLANNED COMMISSION. UM AND I DID SEE THAT THERE WAS, UH, RESPONSE. SO NOTIFICATIONS DID OR DID NOT GO OUT. AND WHAT WAS THE TIMING OF THAT? DO YOU RECALL IT WENT OUT PER PER HOUR PROCEDURE AND PER STATE LAW. THEY ALWAYS GO OUT.
YEAH LIKE YOU SAID. ABOUT TWO IS A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS. WE EXCEED STATE LAW BY TWO DAYS. UM THOSE LETTERS WENT OUT WITHIN 400 FT. AND WE DOUBLE THE STATE LAW MINIMUM, WHICH IS 200 FT.
THEY GO TO 400 FT. THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN 400 FT. AND AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL NOTICES AS WELL THAT YOU KNOW OPPORTUNITIES WHERE FOLKS CAN GO ONLINE AND COMMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT DON'T NECESSARILY RECEIVE THE LETTERS AND THEN WE HAVE THE AND THE DATA ON NUMBER OF RESPONSE NUMBER OF NOTIFICATIONS THAT WENT OUT AND THEN TOTAL NUMBER OF RESPONSES. THIS GO ROUND BECAUSE WE DID RESET. THIS WAS A NEW APPLICATIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE THE OLD RESPONSES WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF OPPOSITION RESPONSES. BUT THIS TIME I BELIEVE THERE WERE 24 NOTIFICATION LETTERS SENT OUT AND IN THE PACKET, ONLY ONE HAD BEEN RECEIVED SO FAR, AND THAT WAS IN FAVOR. THANK YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. UM AND I BELIEVE IT'S FOR YOU. BUT JUST TO HELP IN THIS SPACE, IF NOT MAY NEED THE APPLICANT BACKUP, BUT FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE.
WAS THERE A NEED FOR A T I A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BASED ON UM, THIS PROPOSED PROPOSAL, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DID NOT REQUIRE A T I A TRAFFIC STUDY. HOWEVER, THEY DID REVIEW IT AND AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED BE HAD MET, EVEN, UM ONE ON ONE WITH MR LUKE HE THE DIRECTOR TO DISCUSS, UM, TRAFFIC . OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR. I BROUGHT YOU BACK UP FOR NOTHING. AND I HAD ONE MORE NOTE. NO THANK YOU.
ALRIGHTY. UM I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ISSUES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING? NO, NO, THAT'S THE APPLICANT BACKUP TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ITEMS. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE SIZE. THERE'S A STATEMENT THAT THE SIGNS WEREN'T PUT OUT AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHOTO THAT WAS SENT TO MATTHEW. UM THE PREVIOUS TIME THAT THOSE WERE SENT OUT AS WELL AS THIS TIME, SO THE SIGNS WERE PUT UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR GUIDELINES AND WE DO HAVE TIME DATE STAMP PHOTO DOCUMENTATION OF THAT. UM. IN
[00:50:04]
REGARDS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THERE'S WE HAVE SO MUCH DATA WE WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANYTHING WE NEED THERE THERE. THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FROM ANYTHING THAT WE USE IN THE CAR WASH. UM EVERYTHING'S RECYCLED. THERE'S NO AIRBORNE CONTAMINANTS THAT THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T EXIST WITH ANYTHING THAT WE USE. AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT ANYBODY WOULD WOULD NEED FOR THAT. UM. THE NOISE AS WELL. UM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE NOISE ON. THESE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE. SO THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY SOUNDS. STUDIES DATA FROM THE MANUFACTURERS THAT'S AVAILABLE. WE BRIEFLY MENTIONED SOME OF THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE TRAFFIC ON BELTLINE IS LOUDER THAN ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE ON THE SITE, SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY ANYTHING YOU NEED ON THAT AS WELL. UM AND THEN AS FAR AS THE BUSINESS, UM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF PROPRIETARY DATA INDUSTRY DATA THAT TELLS US THAT THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS USE, AND WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING ANOTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS ON THIS PROPERTY. WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT FOR A CAR WASH. UM AS FAR AS TOO MANY CAR WASHES. I WOULD I WOULD JUST ASK ANYBODY TO PROVIDE PROVIDE US WITH SOME SOME DATA THAT THAT, UH IS TO THE CONTRARY OF WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS A GOOD SITE. UM WE BELIEVE IT IS A GOOD SITE. WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE DATA WE HAVE. THIS IS A VERY UNDERSERVED MARKET. AND WE THINK THAT THIS BUSINESS WILL DO VERY WELL IN THIS LOCATION. UM. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM THE THIS IS MINT ROAD RIGHT HERE THAT WE ARE USING FOR ENTRANCE IS NOT SHARED BY ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. SO THE ROAD THAT GOES BACK TO THE SCHOOL IS BACK ON THIS SIDE HERE. AND I DON'T WANT A GOOGLE MAP IMAGE IS HELP. PORTRAY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WE'RE NOT SHARING ANY ENTRANCE OR EXIT WITH THE SCHOOL AT ALL. THAT'S OURS IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE, AND APART FROM THE SCHOOL UM. ANY QUESTIONS OR THE APPLICANT? SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENKINS CHAIR. JUST A SECOND. NO OKAY. AFRICAN MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER ROSE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS DISCLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ALREADY.DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN . THERE UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY ONLY. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO EVALUATE THE PROPOSED LAND USED TO DETERMINE IF IT IS THE BEST USE FOR THE LAND. AH SOMETIMES, UH, IT GOES AGAINST OUR. OUR FEELINGS ARE SUBJECTIVE FEELINGS ABOUT WHAT THE INTENDED BEST USE OF THE LAND IS. BUT LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR LOT, I NOTICE THAT IT'S IN A COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING. AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN BE PUT THERE BY RIGHT. THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS, UH, THIS COMMISSION.
EXAMPLE OF THAT COULD BE A TEMPORARY BATCH, CONCRETE CRUSHING PLANT TEMPORARY. AND I WOULD BELIEVE THAT A TEMPORARY CONCRETE PLANT WOULD BE AH, A HORRIBLE USE OF LAND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SCHOOL TO SCHOOLS AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. I AM FOR THE MOMENT NOT OPPOSED TO THE APPLICANTS REQUEST. AND I AM. CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE SITUATION AROSE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES. BUT TO ME, THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THE LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO DISCUSS UH, GO AHEAD AND TALK, BUT OTHERWISE I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ALRIGHTY UM, YEAH, I DO HAVE SOME INPUT. THIS ONE WAS A MARGINAL VOTE FOR ME THE FIRST TIME AROUND. AND SO I DID A LITTLE MORE DIGGING THIS TIME. AND YEAH, WE DO HAVE THE COMP PLAN, WHICH IS NOT BE QUITE RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL GOT A CHANCE TO READ THAT
[00:55:05]
112 PAGE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. UH, I DID. AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO REREAD IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IT DIRECTLY ADDRESSED THE CONGREGATION IN THE AMOUNT OF AUTO RELATED USES. WE HAVE, WHICH INCLUDES CARWASHES AUTO REPAIRS OUT OF SALES AND EVERYTHING. AND I TOLD US TO BE AWARE OF IT AND MAYBE THINK OF SOME IDEAS. AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW WE SHOULD BE KNOWN ALL ALONG. BUT ON PAGE 70 AND IT SAYS BE SELECTIVE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS GARLAND APPROVES, IF YOU USE DOESN'T SUPPORT THE NEEDS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WIRE PROVED VARIANCES REZONING OR S UPS, SO I DID A LITTLE MORE LOOKING AND I LOOKED IN A 2.5 MILE RADIUS, NOT EVEN A THREE MILE RADIUS. THERE ARE 12 CAR WASHES. THERE ARE FOUR BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THE IN THE STAR WASH AT NORTH GARLAND. AND BELTLINE, AND THERE'S ONE FURTHER DOWN. BUT IN THAT RADIUS THERE SIX SELF SERVICE ONES AND SIX ROLLOVER OR FULL SERVICE ONCE AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, MAYBE 2.5 MILES IS TOO FAR. BUT THEN I MEASURED. WELL WHERE MY HOUSE IS TO THE ONE I GO TO, WHICH IS A SHILOH AND ARAPAHOE. IT'S 3.5 MILES AS A CROW FLY. SO I THINK MY CALCULATIONS ARE VALID IN 2.5 MILES, SO AND ANOTHER THING THAT CAME INTO PLAY WASN'T OH, I'D SAY ABOUT 68 YEARS AGO, WE APPROVED A CAR WASH. COMMISSIONER DON'T MAYBE THE ONLY ONE TO REMEMBER. BUT THERE WAS A LARGE ROUND WITH NEIGHBORS ABOUT NOISE AND THERE WAS SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN THE CORNER OF THE SITE THAT LET OFF INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOT APPROVED AND EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, AND IT'S NOW A TIRE SHOP. SO MAYBE NOT. ALL CAR WASHES ARE VIABLE. SO. I'M I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ONE FOR THOSE REASONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE YOU MIGHT STILL LIKE, OKAY, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE FOLLOWING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THIS REQUEST BOTH, UH CND. KFC ISN'T APPROVED. HE IS FALLS RIGHT BEHIND YOU. ANY DISCUSSION OR SECOND. YOU DON'T WANT A SECOND, IT GOING ONCE. NO SECOND. WOW SECOND IT UP MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION. GOT ALL NIGHT. EMOTION I'M SORRY. YEAH GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TOO. APPROVED ITEMS THREE C AND THREE D AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION. MR CHAIRMAN, COMMENT ON DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND READING THAT STUDY. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE STUDY WAS COMPLETE UNTIL I SAW THE AGENDA. SO I WILL. I'VE GOT SOME HOMEWORK TO DO. IT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT THE STUDY WAS INCOMPLETE AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICANTS. INITIAL IT WAS AND SO IN CONSIDERATION OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION AND THE SUBMISSION AND THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE TO DO. THE OUTREACH OF THE COMMUNITY, HOWEVER, REMAIN FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR NOW. IT'S A VALID VALID OPINION. YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE, THEN. BOTH YES. AND SO IT'S MOTION. AIR WE GO. OKAY? BY THE BYLAWS OF THE COMMISSION. IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION. THERE ARE NINE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AND IT TAKES FIVE VOTES, WHETHER THEY'RE ALL HERE OR NOT, SO THE MOTION FAILS. ALASKA COMMISSIONERS IF THERE'S ANOTHER MOTION TO BE MADE. COMMISSIONER ROSE AGAIN. I WOULD APPROVE, NOT APPROVE. I WOULD SUPPORT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. FOR BOTH C AND D. IS THERE IN THE FORM OF THE MOTION? YES, SIR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY ITEMS C AND D. ANY DISCUSSION AND IS THERE A SECOND COUNCIL DECIDE? IS THERE. ANY DISCUSSION. I MEAN ANY SECOND. AGAIN IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO A CONCLUSION SO IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL. WITH NO RECOMMENDATION , AND I THINK THAT IS CONSIDERED THE A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION AS IT GOES FORWARD TO COUNSEL. BUT[01:00:07]
THEY WILL HAVE SEEN ALL OF OUR CONVERSATION. HMM. AND THEY WILL MAKE THEIR DECISION FROM THERE.ALRIGHT THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING AND I'D WRITTEN DOWN JULY, BUT ACTUALLY, JUNE 20/6 WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.