Jul 24, 2023 Plan Commission

[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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GOOD EVENING, AND WE WELCOME YOU TO THE JULY 24TH MEETING OF THE CITY OF GARLANDS, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THIS PORTION OF OUR MEETING IS THE COMMISSION'S WORK SESSION WHERE CITY STAFF BRIEFED THE COMMISSION ON CASES THAT WE WILL HERE TONIGHT. AFTERWARDS WE WERE RECESSED UNTIL 7 P.M. AT WHICH TIME THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING WILL BEGIN. GOOD EVENING EVENING. FIRST. I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. AND THE FIRST ZONING CASE ON THE AGENDA IS THE 23 17 , THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A GARAGE CONDOMINIUM GRADUATES OF AMERICA AUTOMOBILE REPAIR USE CONTRACTORS OFFICE WAREHOUSE. INDOORS ONLY AND RETAIL USE AND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE GARAGE CONDOMINIUM IS A NEW USE. THAT IS NOT IN THE G. D C. AND THE APPLICANT IS, UM , ADDING THIS USE IN THE PD AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL EXPAND ON THE USE. UM DURING THE DURING THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT WE DID USE THE WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM USE, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST USE IN THE G. D. C. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 8.15 ACRES. AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 87-1 FOR COMMUNITY OFFICE USES. HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINE IN THE TAIL BLUE COLOR. ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH. OR ZONE. PDF 00-39 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USE AND THIS IS CURRENTLY ALL UNDEVELOPED. AND TO THE EAST ZONE PD 95-2 FOR COMMUNITY OFFICE, AND THIS IS ALSO A DEVELOPED AND THE SOUTH ACROSS NAME AND FOREST ZONE. PD 07-69. THESE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND TO THE WEST ACROSS RANGER IS SEWN PD 82-115, AND THERE IS A G I S D CAREER CENTER. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. THE CONDOMINIUM CONCEPT IS A NEW AND INNOVATIVE USE, ONE THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN SEVERAL OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION. THE USE INCLUDES RETAIL OFFICE AND SERVICES AS CONTEMPLATED IN THE COMMUNITY CENTERS DESIGNATION. IT CENTERS AROUND AN AUTOMOTIVE COMPONENT AS WELL, AND THE SITE HAS BEEN DESIGNED SO THAT THE AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE BAY DOORS WILL NOT FACE ANY STREET. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. THE LEFT PICTURE IS THE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM RANGER. TO THE RIGHT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NAME AND FOREST. I NEVER HEAR IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THAT'S THE HIGHWAY. UM AND THEN WRITE HIS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM, UM, THE HIGHWAY. AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS TWO LOTS. THIS IS LOT ONE AND THIS IS A LOT TO LOT. ONE WILL CONSIST OF ONE BUILDING. IT WILL BE A MULTI TENANT BUILDING FOR TO ALLOW AUTO REPAIR. MINOR USE CONTRACTORS OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE, RETAIL USE AND ANY OTHER USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT. AND THIS BUILDING WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, AND IT CAN BE ACCESSED FROM RANGER. THERE IS TWO ACCESS POINTS HERE AND THEN ALSO FROM NAME AND FOREST AS WELL. THE SITE DOES COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THE MULTI TENANT BUILDING. WE TOOK ALL THOSE USES INTO CONSIDERATION. AND A LOT, TOO, IS FOR THE GARAGE CONDOMINIUM. THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS AND EACH BUILDING WILL CONSIST OF 36 UNITS. AND THE GARAGE CONDOMINIUM IS A, UM, A STORAGE FACILITY, UM, WHICH CAN BE USED FOR TO STORE LUXURY VEHICLES OR OTHER PERSONAL BELONGINGS, AND THESE WILL BE OWNED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL. UM THERE WILL NOT BE RENTED OUT. IT WILL BE OWNED AND ALSO BE CONDITIONED. IT'LL BE SCREENED AND FENCED. UM THE ACCESS POINT WILL BE FROM GEORGE BUSH AND ONLY GARAGE OWNERS CAN ACCESS THE PROPERTY. THERE'S ALSO SOME AMENITIES THAT THERE'S ALSO A CLUBHOUSE THAT CAN BE USED, UM ONLY FOR THE GARAGE OWNERS AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL EXPAND ON THEY USE FURTHER. AND ALSO, UM THERE'S SOME DEVIATIONS

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NOTHING TOO MAJOR. NOBODY WORK. UM SO IT'S MAINLY JUST MINOR REPAIRS LIKE OIL CHANGE.

COMMISSIONER BYRNE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. HOW DOES THIS USE VARY FROM? JUST A REGULAR, MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE USE. GOOD QUESTION. THIS GARAGE MAINLY IS, UM IT WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED AND OUR DEFINITION FOR MANY WAREHOUSE IS TO BE RENTED OUT AND THEIR SPECIFIC HOURS OF

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OKAY? AND ARE THERE ANY HOURS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THIS? I MEAN, I'M TEMPTED TO SAY IT'S A REALLY OUGHT TO JUST BE STORAGE . I MEAN, IF THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STORAGE AND THIS IS THE HOURS AS THE OWNERSHIP, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THAT MATTERS. UM YOU KNOW, I'M TEMPTED TO SAY TREATED JUST THE SAME. IS THERE SOME KIND OF I GUESS. IS THERE SOME KIND OF G O A ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS A GARAGE OWNERS ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED WITH OWNING THIS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING SOME SORT OF ASSOCIATION OKAY? THANK YOU. THIS. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. OKAY? TWO DOGS. THANK YOU. OKAY? THESE ARE GOING TO BE DEEDS, SIMPLY OWNED PROPERTIES. SO I PURCHASED ONE OF THESE AND I'M GOING TO WORK ON MY CAR. WHATEVER SHALL BRING ALL THE TOOLS. I BRING ALL THE TEST EQUIPMENT. I BRING ALL THE LIFTS IN HERE. WHAT IS TO KEEP ME FROM RENTING THAT SPACE OUT TO SOMEONE SO THAT THEY CAN REPAIR THEIR CAR AND NOT MINE. THERE IS GOING TO BE AS I UNDERSTAND.

MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK INTO MONITORING WHAT IS BEING ALLOWED THERE. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE ALSO ADDED AS THE THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT STAY SO NOBODY CAN ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S SOMETHING THE MANAGEMENT OF GRADUATES OF AMERICA WILL MONITOR. I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF PEOPLE WORK ON THEIR OWN CARS OVERNIGHT, SO I JUST WONDERED ABOUT. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT GARAGES. OF AMERICA IN AN AREA SUCH AS THIS ONE IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT A DIFFERENT USE. UNDER G D. C. THAT'S NOT THERE.

IT'S VERY NEW TO US, AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE CITY MIGHT BE. BUT BE WELL SERVED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE HARDER BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH FLOODING SOMEONE LIKE THIS, THEN THANK YOU FOR NOW. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSE YES. OOPS. BUT SIGNING ONE MORE TIME FOR ME, SIR, PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY? WELL, THERE ANY BE RESTRICTIONS ON OUTSIDE STORAGE OF VEHICLES OR VEHICLE PARTS OR WHATEVER. YES WE DID ADD A PD CONDITION THAT THERE IS NO OUTSIDE STORAGE ALLOWED. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER CONVINCING YOU CHAIRMAN AGAIN, PLEASE. THANK YOU. UM I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORD CONDOMINIUM. SO CAN YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR AS IT RELATES TO STAYING OVERNIGHT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE MANAGED AND WHAT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT OVERNIGHT STAYS OR NOT HAPPENING IN EACH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS. SURE UM, LIKE I SAID THAT THERE IS A PPD CONDITION THAT NO OVERNIGHT STAY IS ALLOWED. UM AND FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT THEY HAVE MONITORED FROM FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. UM THEY'RE SIMILAR USE GRADUATES OF AMERICA . THEY'VE MONITORED THAT VERY CAREFULLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO OVERNIGHT STAY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WILL CAREFULLY LOOK AT. OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS. GOOD EVENING. WHAT I THINK THAT I HEARD AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID

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BUT THIS IS THE FIRST YOU STEP THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. OKAY I THINK I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHAT I WAS PLAYING BACK THE TAPE OF LIKE EXAMPLE WITH MULTI FAMILY WE STARTED OUT WITH JUST YOU KNOW, I M F AND THEN WE WENT TO M F ONE AND F TWO. SO I JUST WAS THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES IS, UM, BUT THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED USE, AND THEN WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TWEAKED IT A BIT AND THEN CREATED NEW ONES. SO THAT WAS WHERE THE SPIRIT OF WHERE I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION ABOUT BUT AS FAR AS THE USE OF LAND, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A NEW USE. IT'S JUST IT'S STILL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF GARAGE. AND UM, AND IN GOOD USE OF LAND IS WHAT I'M HEARING. JUST THE OWNERSHIP OF IT IS REALLY THE KEY DRIVER FOR THE DEVIATION. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS MYSELF, UH, GOT SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY POSED. I'LL START KIND OF AT THE TOP. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? AND THE UNDERLYING ZONING HERE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS CEO AND THE UNDERLYING ZONING BEING L C OR H C. THEY ARE STILL PROPOSING THE COMMUNITY OFFICES , THE BASED ZONING AND THAT IS WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS CURRENTLY THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST AMENDING THE PD TO ALLOW THIS GARAGE CONDOMINIUM AND THEN ALSO THE AUTO REPAIR MINOR USE THE CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND RETAIL USE, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT AND. THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OR MORE GENERALLY WHERE YOU'D FIND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR USES, WOULD YOU SAID HOW THAT WORKS? IT'S MORE. THERE'S MORE INDUSTRIAL USES. WHERE HOUSES USED THAT ARE ALLOWED. UM AND THE AUTUMN REPAIR MINOR USES ACTUALLY ALLOWED BY WRITING THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AS WELL. UM AND THEN ALSO, UM MAJOR REQUIRES. I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES SCP AND CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT MINOR IS ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, OKAY , BUT COMMUNITY OFFICE IT'S YEAH . OKAY UM, NEXT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO SECTION 2.52 OF THE LAND USE MAIN STRIKES, WHICH DEALS WITH SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS REGARDING AUTOMOTIVE USES. LOOKING AT THREE G, WHICH IS WHERE WE GET THE KIND OF THIS IDEA THE AUTOMOBILE. I DON'T BE REPAIR. I GET UNDER THAT MY READING IS THAT VEHICLES MAY NOT REMAIN ON SITE FOR MAXIMUM 14 DAYS. SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT? DESIGNATION ARE WE? ARE WE USING THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY TO CLASSIFY THIS? AND IF SO, UM HOW DO WE RECONCILE THESE? YOU KNOW, REALLY? BROAD REQUEST THAT THEY'RE MAKING. THEY'RE MAKING A REQUEST TO DEVIATE WELL OUTSIDE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A MINOR USE WOULD BE. HOW DO WE? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT? I HEARD A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION OR QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT HOURS OF OPERATIONS TRYING TO GET TO HOW TO MAKE IT WORK, YOU KNOW FOR EVERYONE. SURE UM, SO THE MADE THE MINOR AUTO REPAIR USE. THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWING THEY WANT TO ADD INTO LOT ONE. UM AND IT'S THE MULTI TENANT BUILDING.

THEY HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED WHERE THIS AUTO REPAIR USE WOULD GO, BUT IT'S JUST A USE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PROPOSE. UM AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE, WAREHOUSE, RETAIL USE OFFICE USE OR ANY OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE, SO THEY WANT TO LEAVE THAT OPTION OPEN, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THOSE STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM , THAT IS STILL WOULD WORK FOR THAT BUILDING. BUT WE WAS ONCE THEY DO APPLY FREE. CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THAT IS SOMETHING ALSO BUILDING INSPECTIONS WOULD LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THOSE STANDARDS AS WELL. THEM TOO. YEAH NOW AND ADD ON TO WOULDN'T BE A SAID, AND PERHAPS

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YEAH, IT IS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION. THE ONE THAT WE USED FOR THE GARAGE CONDOMINIUM WITH WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM. BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY A SHOWROOM EITHER. THAT'S WHY, BUT WE JUST USED WHATEVER WE FOUND WAS CLOSE TO THE G. D. C. OKAY AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THE PD THAT THEY WILL REALLY BE BECAUSE I MEAN PAST CONTROL, JANITORIAL, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. THE PD WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WOULD BE PERMITTED REGARDING ITS THAT THE INTENDED PURPOSES OF OKAY, OKAY. UM THE LAST PORTION OF GOD IS WE WERE KIND OF WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WENT OVER THE SURROUNDING BASED ZONING FOR THE AREA TECHNICAL CENTER OVER THERE. THE GARLANDS TECHNICAL CENTER, THE NAME AND FOREST HIGH SCHOOL, UM , SINGLE FAMILY PRETTY MUCH ALL AROUND. AND THEN JUST TO THE EAST, THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE. UM THIS IT REALLY TO ME, KIND OF FEELS LIKE A, YOU KNOW. MORE INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL USE, AND I THINK THAT THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THAT WOULD BE SHOULD BE APPLICABLE HERE, AS OPPOSED TO COMMUNITY OFFICE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY THOUGHT AT THIS TIME, SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM IS E 23 22 , THE APPLICANT REQUEST THE CHANGING ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 22.3 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP. AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT POVERTY. AND HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THIS TEAL BLUE COLOR. ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ARE ZONE AGRICULTURAL, UM TO THE EAST. THERE'S A DALLAS COUNTY BUILDING AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A HOUSE AND THEN TO THE NORTH. IT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY, SEVEN WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN TO THE WEST OVER HERE ARE MAINLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND THERE IS A HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WILL BE IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED. THE APPLICANT WILL DEMOLISH THIS HOUSE. UM AND IT IS INTENDED FOR A TOWN HOMES WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY PLANTED FOR SALE TOWN HOMES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MID DENSITY TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS THE LEFT. PICTURE IS THE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ROULETTE ROAD. AND THEN RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. TO THE LEFT OVER HERE IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS REQUEST IS A TRADITIONAL REZONING WITHOUT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR A DETAILED PLAN. THE APPLICANT HAS

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[Call to Order]

PLEASE JOIN ME IF YOU CARE TO. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE DISPOSED UPON THIS CITY ON THIS COMMISSION ON THE STATE AND COUNTRY, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR MEETING. GIVE US WISDOM, DISCERNMENT AND KHALID REALITY. WE PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OH, LORD OF THE WELL BEING AND THE WELL BEING OF ALL WHO LIVE WORK AND VISIT THIS CITY, BUT PARTICULARLY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL CITY STAFF WHO LABOR IN THE OPPRESSIVE HEAT OF THIS SUMMER. WE ALSO ASK YOUR BLESSING ON CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AND HIS FAMILY. HE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. WE ASKED LORD THAT YOU GIVE THEM HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM IN THIS CITY IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY IT! MY PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, SIR. A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING TO OUR APPLICANTS AND ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. ALL APPLICANTS ARE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASES AND OTHER SPEAKERS. SUPPORTERS OR THOSE IN OPPOSITION, HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AFTER THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO COME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THAT'S AGAIN JUST NAMING ADDRESS WILL SAY IT AGAIN AGAIN. THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. FIRST ZONING ITEM TONIGHT IS CONTAINED IN TWO PARTS AND

[Items 3A & 3B]

PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UH, HEARD ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, AND I HAVE ANSWERS FOR HIM BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY THIS. USE OR THE MIXED USES HAVE BEEN PRESENTED OR A LITTLE BIT. MISLEADING.

BECAUSE IT IS CLEARLY NOT AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR. SHOP OF ANY KIND. THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE FIRST CLASS. THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE PORTION. UM. IS ONLY THE SECOND ONE THAT WE'VE DONE THE FIRST ONE WE DID IN CARROLLTON, WHERE WE HAD A 24,000 SQUARE FOOT FLEX BUILDING. ASSOCIATED WITH 69 GARAGES. AND WE DID THAT AS A TEST CASE BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GARAGES. AND 24,000 FT JUST FLEW OFF THE SHELF. SO THIS IS OUR SECOND ATTEMPT AT THAT SAME MIXED USE. AND WHEN I SAY AUTOMOTIVE USES THAT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR GARAGES. I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM. AUDIO VIDEO. THERE'S AN AUDIO VIDEO COMPANY THAT IS IN YOUR HOME, BUT THEY'RE ALSO IN CARS. WE HAVE A VERY LIGHT RESTORATION. COMPANY THAT THAT ENHANCES EXPENSIVE VEHICLES WITH GREATER STEREOS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE JUST UNIQUE. AND WE HAVE A. EXOTIC. MECHANIC THAT ONLY WORKS ON ENGINES, HIGH PERFORMANCE ENGINES, AND HE'S ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T GARAGES THERE BECAUSE HIS SHOP IS THERE TO HELP. MAINTAIN THEIR CARS. AND THE OWNERS OF THE GARAGES. WE HAVE VERY TIGHTLY CONTROLLED CONDOMINIUM DECLARATIONS AND RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND IT'S VERY CLEAR 178 PAGES. DONE BY WEDNESDAY, ED THAT LIMIT WHAT THEY CAN DO FROM A USE STANDPOINT. SO EVEN THOUGH SOMEBODY CAN DO BY RIGHT LIGHT RESTORATION TO THEIR OWN CARS. THERE'S NO PAINTING ALLOWED. THERE'S NO FUMES. THERE'S NOBODY WORK PER SE SO. AND THAT OUT OF 765 GARAGES THAT WE'VE SOLD SO FAR IN 10 PROJECTS. I ONLY KNOW OF ONE BECAUSE THESE GUYS OWN THEIR CARS. THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK ON THEIR CARS. MATTER OF.

FACT CARS HAVE GOTTEN SO COMPLICATED TODAY. THEY CAN'T WORK ON HIM. THEY REALLY ARE.

THAT'S REALLY I'M NOT A CAR GUY . SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I KNOW AND BELIEVE BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THUS FAR. AND BUT THE H O A CONDO DOCKS. ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE. THAT'S

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THAT NOT MORE THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS CAN BE LEASED. SO WE HAVE 71 UNITS IN THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THESE ELEVATIONS OR NOT, BUT 71 UNITS, ONLY SEVEN UNITS OUT OF 71 CAN BE LEASED. AND THAT AGAIN IS TO BE REGULATED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CONDO DOCKS. I MEAN, THE H O A. AND IF. ANYBODY HAS A LEASE UNIT RELEASE. THE LEASE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD. THE USE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD. THE USER HAS TO ACCEPT THE REGULATIONS AND RULES EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT AN OWNER, AND THERE'S A THERE'S A PROTOCOL AND THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE GONE THROUGH. BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A USER. THAT'S A LEASE.

THAT ISN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REST OF THE USERS THAT ARE IN THE IN THE SPACE. FOR EXAMPLE , WE DON'T ALLOW ANY RETAIL BUSINESS WHATSOEVER IN THOSE GARAGES. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT FOOT TRAFFIC. THAT IS SOMEBODY THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO RUN A BUSINESS THAT'S BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE. ON A FREQUENT BASIS. IT'S NOT ALLOWED IF IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S RUNNING A NON RETAIL BUSINESS, E EXCUSE ME, UH, AN ARCHITECT. IS WORKING OUT OF HIS MEZZANINE. AND HE HAPPENS TO BE A CAR GUY THAT'S STORING CARS IN THE GROUND FLOOR. AND HE HAS PEOPLE COME BY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. THAT'S A BUSINESS OR A USE.

THAT'S ALLOWED, BUT IT'S TIGHTLY REGULATED. AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GENERATED BY THIS USE, AND I'M STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT THE GARAGES RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE FLEX OFFICE WAREHOUSE. I'VE BEEN IN THE SELF STORAGE BUSINESS FOR 35 YEARS. YEAH. AND BUILT 80 PROJECTS IN 12 STATES. THAT'S A VERY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATED BUSINESS. THIS BUSINESS WITH THE CARD STORAGE CAR CAR CONDOS. IS A THIRD OF WHAT SELF STORAGES. WE DON'T GET 10 PIECES OF TRAFFIC TODAY. IT'S JUST AMAZING. HELLO LITTLE TRAFFIC THESE THINGS GENERATE BUT IN 71 GARAGES THERE MAY BE 50 OWNERS. AND A 50 OWNERS. YOU KNOW THEY ARE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. IT'S JUST IT'S THE LOWEST TRAFFIC GENERATED. TYPE OF STORAGE USE THAT I'VE THAT I'VE EVER COME ACROSS IN THE STORIES BUSINESS FOR 40 YEARS. UH, HOURS OF OPERATION. THEY ONLY UNITS THEY HAVE 24 7 ACCESS. IT'S TIGHTLY SECURED. BOTH IN THE TERMS OF GATES AND CAMERAS. AND

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JUST LIKE THE GARAGES, UH, IN TERMS OF ITS SKIN AND ITS ELEVATION, IT'S VERY NICE MATERIAL. WELL, PART OF OUR FINANCIAL, UH, CAPITAL STACK OR DEBT STACK. IS, UH ENERGY. AND GREEN BUILDING RELATED. SO WE'RE BUILDING A VERY EFFICIENT ENERGY. RATED BUILDING. WHICH HELPS US BORROW MORE MONEY. AND SO THE QUALITY IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE AS AS NICE AS ANYTHING WE'VE EVER BUILT. SO YOU'RE GETTING A 80 94% MASONRY BUILDING. WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT. UM THE USE. IT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. GET THE. WE'VE GONE INTO SITES AND ALLEN ON 10 ACRES OF SHOPPING CENTERS OWN LAND THAT BACKS UP TO $750,000 HOMES AND THE ONLY THING SEPARATING US AS A AS A POWER LINE. WHEN WE'VE GONE IN NUMEROUS LOCATIONS WHERE WE WERE ACROSS THE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL JUST LIKE WE ARE HERE. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO GET THE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT.

BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE SUCH A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. AND IN CARROLLTON, PARTICULARLY THERE WAS SEVERAL H O S THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH, AND WE GOT FULL SUPPORT FROM ALL OF THEM. BECAUSE THEY SAW OUR FIRST PHASE. WE JUST BOUGHT 11 ACRES NEXT DOOR TO 288 ACRES THAT WE BUILT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT WE SOLD 69 GARAGES AND WE DID THE 24,000 FT OF FLEX. AND WE'RE DOUBLING IN SIZE AND WE STILL HAD FULL H O A HOMEOWNER SUPPORT. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUCH A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. UH UM. I COULD GO INTO MORE HISTORY ABOUT THE USE.

AND WHY IT'S JUST BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY, UH EXPERIENCE BECAUSE. WHEN WE BUILT THE FIRST ONE IN CEO THAT IN PLANO IN 2016. WE SOLD 69 GARAGES BEFORE WE FINISH CONSTRUCTION. AND WE WERE. WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE WERE GOING TO FAIL OR IF WE WERE GOING TO SUCCEED IN SELLING THOSE UNITS, BUT WE DID, AND WE SOLD THEM OFF A NAPKIN BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK WE WERE DOING. WE BUILT THE SECOND ONE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, SOLD OUT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WAS FINISHED. WE BUILD A THIRD ONE IN ALLEN AND WE SOLD OUT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WAS FINISHED. AND IT'S JUST BEEN . CRAZY HOW WELL RECEIVED THIS CONCEPT HAS BEEN WITHIN THE CAR ENTHUSIAST COMMUNITY BECAUSE NOBODY HAS EVER BUILT FOR THOSE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THERE THERE, YOU BUILD GOLF COURSES FOR THE GOLF GUYS. AND YOU BUILD MARINAS FOR THE BOAT, GUYS. NOBODY'S BUILDING ANYTHING FOR THE CAR COMMUNITY. AND THESE GUYS CREATE . WE'RE CREATING A CAR COMMUNITY , WHICH MEANS CURRENT FOUZI LASTS. AND YOU PUT 50 OF THOSE GUYS IN THE SAME PLACE THAT HAVE THAT SAME DISEASE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT IS. IT'S A IT'S IN THE GENES. IT'S A DISEASE.

IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW IT CHANGES THEIR LIFE AND HOW MUCH FUN THEY HAVE. AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP BUILDING THESE AND I THINK THIS LOCATION IS EXTREMELY GOOD FOR WHAT OUR USES. AND IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. IT'LL BE A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN THAT INTERSTATE. AND THE RESIDENTIAL TO OUR SOUTH. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSE UM SO YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL. YES IT IS TAKEN OVER BY THE OWNERS CORRECT. WHAT'S

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THERE WE GO THIS MORNING. JUST CLICK THIS ONE. OKAY TO KEEP GOING DOWN. OKAY, PERFECT. SO GO BACK UP. IN THE BEGINNING. SO THERE'S THE. IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS THE FLEX OFFICE WAREHOUSE. FROM THE FRONT AND BELOW IT. IS THE FLEX FROM THE BACK. AND THAT'S A VIEW FROM, UH NAME IN SCHOOL. UH THE OTHER ONE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND IS LOOKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE GARAGE CONDOS. AND JUST OBVIOUSLY AN AERIAL ANGLE OF THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. IF I MAY. THERE'S AGAIN THE GARAGES IN THE UPPER LEFT. THE FLEX. IN THE LOWER LEFT. AND THAT'S THE ACCESS DRIVE. ONLY IN AND OUT ACCESS DRIVE OFF OF 1 90. TO THE GARAGES, WHICH ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE UPPER LEFT. AND THAT'S THE FLEX ON YOUR RIGHT. THAT HAS TWO DRIVEWAY ACCESS POINTS OFF A RANGER. AND ONE OFF OF NAME AND SMITH OR NAME OF SCHOOL. THIS NEXT ONE. THAT'S THE PHOTO METRIC. SO THAT DOESN'T IT JUST KIND OF TELLS YOU WHAT THE UNIT MIXES FROM AN AERIAL VIEW. AND THESE TWO THIS THIS IS THE FLEX THAT WE HAVE IN CARROLLTON AND THAT BUILDING. ON THE TOP THAT CORNER. THAT'S THAT'S OUR CORPORATE OFFICE. BUT THE REST OF THAT BUILDING THIS THIS, UH, LOWER PICTURE IS, UH THE AUDIO VIDEO COMPANY THAT DOES HOMES AND AUTOMOBILES. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TURN THEIR FLEX SPACE INTO. SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW HOW THESE AREN'T JUST OFFICE. WHERE HAS ITS IT CAN BE A LOT OF OFFICE AND A LITTLE WAREHOUSE OR IT CAN BE A LITTLE OFFICE AND A LOT OF WAREHOUSE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S FLEX. SO JUST. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT PRODUCT HERE, UM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS HERE. INSIDE OF A COUPLE OF GARAGES. IN THIS GARAGE IN THE MIDDLE. FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S THAT WAS THREE GARAGES. LOT OF THESE GUYS BY 234 EVEN FIVE GARAGES. AND TURN THEM INTO MAN CAVES OF

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EXOTICS OVER THE INTERNET FROM INSIDE THAT SPACE, BUT THEY'RE NOT STORING CARS OUTSIDE. THAT'S A USE. RIGHT? NO YOU DON'T LET ANYBODY JUST ANYBODY TOUCH YOUR MILLION DOLLAR MCLAREN, RIGHT? RIGHT? OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THE OTHER CITIES. PUT THIS INTO A C ONE ZONING. UM JUST SIT IN THE SAME ONES ON HIM. THIS IS YOUR SURROUNDED BY SCHOOLS. HOTELS AND RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT AND WE HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT PUT A C ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RETAIL SPACE. AND SO THIS THIS JUST LOOKS MORE LIKE A C ONE TYPE PROPERTY IS WHAT TROUBLES ME A LITTLE BIT IN THIS THING IS HE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT C ONE IS HERE. PARDON COULD BE LIGHT LIGHT COMMERCIAL ELSE, PROBABLY LIKE COMMERCIAL. UM. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE BASICALLY A SET OF CCR SIMILAR TO AN H O RESIDENTIAL H OY. COACHING COVENANTS THAT YOU OPERATE. AND AS WE ALL KNOW WHO LIVE IN C C. R S A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO HIM AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.

AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS PAN OUT THE WAY YOU WANTED IT TO MY QUESTION I RAISED EARLIER IN OUR WORK SESSION WAS WHAT WOULD PREVENT ME FROM BUYING ONE OF THESE? AND TURNING IT INTO A REPAIR SHOP WHERE I RENT IT OUT TO PEOPLE. COOL. WHAT KEEPS ME FROM DOING IT. WELL. WE DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN IN VETTING THE BUYERS, OKAY? WE TRY VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT EACH BUYER'S INTENDED USES ARE NOW BUYERS CAN BE LIARS. WE ALL KNOW THAT. SO WE GO THE

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THERE'S ONE THERE'S SOME CLASSIC EXAMPLES AND WE'RE VERY DISCRETIONARY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A COMMUNITY. WITH EVERYBODY HAVING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND IF I DON'T WANT THAT PERSPECTIVE BUYER TO BE MY NEIGHBOR. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK HIM TO BE YOURS. AND WE DO FIGHT REAL HARD TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. BUT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. BECAUSE THE MINUTE YOU TRIED TO TURN THAT AROUND INTO A OPERATING BUSINESS THAT WAS NOT PERMISSIBLE BY THE CONDO DOCKS.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN VIOLATION. GONNA GET SHUT DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO GET LEANED YOUR YOUR TENANTS GOING TO GET BOOTED AND IT'S TIGHTLY CONTROLLED. YOU'VE GOT 50 GUYS TO 75 GUYS IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SPENT 300,000 AVERAGE PER UNIT, SOMEONE BY 34 AND FIVE UNITS, AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THERE UNTIL YOU'RE FINISH OUT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RUN IT LIKE A RESIDENTIAL H O A THAT HAS 6500 AND 50 HOMES THAT NOBODY REALLY PAYS REAL CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE OS. WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT OPERATES. BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS, I MEAN, UH, A COMMERCIAL FACILITY THAT HOUSES 50 60 70. OWNERS OF THIS. SOPHISTICATION AND YOU'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF CARS PARKED IN THERE. YOU CAN BET THAT THE H O S ARE GOING TO BE REAL ACTIVE AND BE ALERT. AND THEY HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU BRING IN FLIP FRESH BLOOD, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2015. AND IT'S WORKED REALLY WELL SO FAR. BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT PROVISIONS IN PLACE TO KIND OF FORCE IT TO BE THAT WAY. BUT THESE GUYS, THEY'RE THEY'RE SO PROUD OF THEIR THEIR WARES. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SHOW THEIR COLLECTIONS OFF. THE KIND OF PEOPLE THEY ARE SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT IT'S THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION IN ALLEN. WE TOOK A SHOPPING CENTER SITE. WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS BEHIND US THAT $750,000 HOMES.

ALL ALREADY THERE, NOT BEING BUILT. THERE. THERE. THEY SUPPORTED US BECAUSE THAT USE WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SHOPPING CENTER AND RETAIL. AND WE WERE BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL. WE HAD APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE HAD A SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE STREET. I MEAN, IT WAS. IT'S JUST IT'S A IT'S A GOOD COMMERCIAL USE. IT REALLY IS. YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME LOOK AT HIM. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL AROUND THE CITY WERE IN ALLEN, FRISCO, CARROLLTON, ROANOKE. ROCKWALL DALLAS, LAKEWAY, TEXAS AND. WE'VE GOT TO DOWN IN HOUSTON.

WE'VE GOT ONE IN DENVER AND. I MEAN THIS WHEN I SAY THIS WHEN YOU GET IT. WHEN YOU REALLY GET IT. WE HAVE HAD. I'VE HAD COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCILMAN, FOLLOW ME IN THE PARKING LOT. WANT TO BUY A GARAGE? AS A TRUE STORY. YEAH. BECAUSE HE WAS A CAR GUY, YOU KNOW, HE GOT IT. YOU KNOW, BUT ONCE ONCE YOU GET IT, IT'S JUST IT'S A GREAT BUFFER, YOU KNOW TO, UH, THE INTERSTATE. AND WE'RE LEAVING. LOTS OF TREES WERE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THOSE TREES IN THE IN THE FLOODWAY. AND THE BUFFER THAT WILL STILL BE THERE. IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE ADDING IS SUBSTANTIAL. AND IT'S GOING TO BE QUIET. WILL BE A LOT MORE QUIET THAN THE HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARIS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING US THROUGH THE DESIGN THAT YOU SHOWED US AND GIVING US A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AND VISUAL COUPLE OF JUST TWO THINGS BACK TO THE LAND USED AS FAR AS OWN VS RENT, AND I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT EACH OF THESE UNITS WOULD BE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED. BUT I THOUGHT I ALSO HEARD YOU SAY WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF LEASING AND RENTING IT OUT. SO IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT, AND I HAD ONE MORE THING AFTERWARDS. OWNER IF HE HAS MORE THAN ONE GARAGE. CAN LEASE. A UNIT OUT FOR ONE YEAR. AND THAT LEASES IS RE REVIEWED WITH THE BOARD. ANNUALLY. TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT

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AND IF THEY'RE NOT THE LEAST DOESN'T GET RENEWED. AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THESE GUYS BY TWO OR THREE GARAGES, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T NEED THEM THAT THE IMMEDIATE TIME SO THEY RENT TO A BUDDY THAT PUTS SOME CARS INTO IT OR SOMEBODY, BUT THE USE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE WAY. THE LEAST DOCUMENT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE H O A. THE TENANT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE H O A FROM WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED USES. AND IT'S ONLY FOR 12 MONTHS. AND IT HAS TO BE RENEWED EVERY 12 MONTHS. AND YOU CAN YOU CAN'T LEASE MORE THAN 10. IN TOTAL OF WHAT THE NUMBER OF GARAGES ARE. SO YOU'VE GOT 100 UNITS WHICH WERE IN FRISCO, WE HAVE 106. YOU COULDN'T LEASE MORE THAN 10 OF THAT 100 UNITS. OKAY? BUT YOU CAN LEASE BUT WE TRY TO MITIGATE THAT TO A VERY SMALL NUMBER. OKAY SO LAYING USES THE LAND USE THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING THEN IS STILL OWNED BY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S LANDLORD TO ATTENDANT. OKAY BUT THE LEAST EIGHT IS WHAT YOU'RE STATING AS THE LEAST AND IT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN BY THE H O A PROVE IT. APPROVAL RIGHTS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, AND I'M REALLY ADDRESSING. I THINK MORE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD READ AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT, BUT JUST WANTED TO READ IT. EATERY SO TRAFFIC CONCERNS YOU THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE LOW TRAFFIC CONCERNS YOU'VE ALREADY CONNECTED WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT TO JUST REALLY BE SURE THAT THEIR, UM THEIR FEEDBACK AND OBVIOUSLY NO. T I A NEEDED TRAFFIC. UH UM, ANALYSIS NEEDED BECAUSE OF YOUR WORKED WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, OR ARE WE NOT YET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR A DEEP I'M ALREADY TO PLAN. ALRIGHT TELL ME, IS IT NOT NEEDED AT THIS POINT, CORRECT? WELL JUST DOUBLE CHECKING WITH A DETAILED PLAN. THE TRANSPORTATION HAS THE DETAILS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, BUT IT WAS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS CASE , BUT THEY DO STILL WITH ANY PLAN REVIEW IT MADE SURE THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS, TRAFFIC FLOW AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT TECHNICAL STANDARDS. THANKS. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE I KEPT HEARING THAT IT'S I ALREADY KNOW TRAFFIC CONCERNS, AND I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE. UM THE FIRST BEING I'VE HEARD YOU SAID NOW THAT YOUR CLASSIFICATION OF THE LAND IS COMMERCIAL, SO YOU SEE IT AS COMMERCIAL USE. OKAY SO THE CURRENT AS A NATION, I THINK WE'VE GOT FORWARD TO CEO WOULD SHE BE PARTICULARLY OPPOSED TO A KIND OF SHIFT OF AWAY FROM THE CEO TO PERHAPS A COMMERCIAL USE? I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. MR CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT UM. COMMISSION IS CLEAR THE PD WOULD STILL BE BASED, WOULD REMAIN BASED IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT. HOWEVER, IT WOULD, UM, ALLOW THIS SPECIFIC.

USE WITH THE DETAILED PLAN, BUT THIS USE ONLY AS FAR AS ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY INDUSTRIAL LIKE WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE HEADING. MR CHAIRMAN. IT WOULD ONLY ALLOW THIS AS IT'S PRESENTED SHOWN IN THE DETAILED PLAN AND CRAFTED IN THE PD CONDITIONS, BUT OTHERWISE ANYTHING EVER BEYOND THAT WOULD DEFER TO THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. SURE.

SECOND QUESTION. I HEAR YOU HAVE A GREAT, UH, OPTIMISM REGARDING THE H O A OR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WITH THE H O. A UM, IS THERE A PROPERTY MANAGER? THAT'S BEHIND THE SCENES KIND OF DOING THE DAY TO DAY. OKAY THIRD PARTY THAT HELPS THE OWNERS MANAGE THE H O A IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL H O A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. BUT THEY WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

SO TELL IT TO YOUR QUESTION. YES, SIR. IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF ENGAGED ? YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE MUST BE ON THE BOARD? NO LESS THAN THREE OR MORE THAN FIVE AND WE HAVE FIVE ON ALL OF THEM. OKAY AND I PRESUME THAT UNTIL THAT NUMBER HAS MET BECAUSE OF OWNERSHIP ISSUES, THE DEVELOPER OR THE PROPERTY MANAGER WILL FULFILL THOSE THOSE POSITIONS. I TRIED TO GET OFF AS QUICK AS I CAN. YEAH AS SOON AS WE'RE AT 75 PER CENT SOLD AND CLOSED, I'M TURNING IT OVER TO AND NEWLY ELECTED GROUP OF. BOARD MEMBERS AND WE HAVE ELECTIONS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE MAY RUN. OR THERE MAY BE JUST ENOUGH TO FILL THE BOARD. YOU KNOW IT VARIES. UM I ALSO HEARD YOU SAY THAT THAT THERE WAS KIND OF CONFUSION. CITY CITY STAFF KIND OF GIVE

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QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER CARDS THIS EVENING AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE HER DESIRE TO SPEAK ON THIS, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND COME ON DOWN. WE'LL GET YOU ONE AND WE WILL TAKE DOMESTIC COME IN. THE FIRST WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS A MISS ALICE MCKINNON . AND IF I PUT YOUR NAME, I APOLOGIZE. I'M HORRIBLE WITH NAMES. COME ON DOWN. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MY PAPERS HERE. MY NAME IS ALICE MCKINNON LIVE AT 604 CEDAR VIEW RIGHT ON THE CORNER WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THESE CONDOS. OUR UM, PLACES. SO I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GARLAND SINCE I WAS 12. I HAVE BEEN A REAL ESTATE AGENT SINCE I FOR 24 YEARS. SO I AS AN AGENT, AND I'M ALSO A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR 24 YEARS. I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS , UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE NOISE. UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ADDRESSED. I KNOW THESE ARE VERY HIGH END CARS.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE READING UP THESE VERY HIGH END CARS ON REPAIR? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE DOING? BECAUSE I AM ON THE CORNER. I HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING. THE NEXT IS THE LIGHTS. UH AS A PROPERTY MANAGER , THE LIGHTS ON MY BUILDING SEAN RIGHT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL. IF THE OWNER ISN'T WILLING TO DO ANYTHING. YOU GET TO SEE THE LIGHTS. UM THE FENCE WHEN I LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FIRE WHEEL AND THEY BUILT A FENCE OR BRICK WALL FENCE FOR THE RESIDENT, THE RESTAURANTS THERE. SO THAT IT LOOKED A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUIRE THAT THEY BUILD A BRICK FENCE ARE WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE LOOKING AS ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

THIS WONDERFUL METAL THAT'S GOING ON. UM MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS IN THE AUTO REPAIR. AH UM OUTSIDE PARKING. SO ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARK THEIR THEIR SPECIAL BOATS, CARS? ANYTHING LIKE THAT . UM THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL. I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING COMMERCIAL SO THERE WILL BE SOME CARS PARKED OUTSIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING RETAIL IF I'M RIGHT, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO PARK AND GO IN. CAMERAS ARE THERE GOING TO BE MONITORING THE CAMERAS? 24 7, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT BEING THE HIGH END CARS THE THINGS THERE IF THE THIEVES WANT IT. THEY CAN. THEY SURELY CAN GO AFTER IT. UM I DID TALK WITH SOMEBODY AND THEY DID TELL ME WE WERE THAT THEY WERE BUILDING THEM AND THAT ON THEIR WEBSITE, IT DOES HAVE GARLAND. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS YET, BUT IT ALREADY IS ON THEIR WEBSITE. AH THEY DID SAY THAT THEY DO SPEND THE NIGHT THERE.

JUST ONCE IN A WHILE. TRAFFIC UM , TRAFFIC'S HORRENDOUS AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, UM DURING SCHOOL. WE HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS, THE KIDS GETTING PICKED UP AT SCHOOL USING OUR DRIVEWAYS USING OUR STREET. WE KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. THEN WE HAVE THAT THAT WONDERFUL BUILDING THEY BUILT FOR GRADUATIONS. THE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE. THEY BLOCK OFF THAT AREA THERE SO THAT YOU CAN'T GO FURTHER DOWN, NAMING THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT ONE MONTH OUT OF THE YEAR. UM THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. AH WHEN THEY DO THE BUILD OUT, I

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS A MISS PATRICIA KOSILEK AND AGAIN. I APOLOGIZE IF I AM MAKING A MESS OF IT.

OKAY? USED TO IT.IVE ON CEDAR VIEW FOR HOMES DOWN FROM NAME OF SCHOOL ROAD. I'M SORRY BEFORE YOU GO NAME AND ADDRESS 6666 15 THEATER VIEW DRIVE. I LIVE RIGHT ON THE INTERSECTION LIKE ALICE DOES FOUR HOUSES DOWN FROM THE CORNER AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M TOTALLY NOT, UH. TO PROVE THIS BECAUSE A WAREHOUSES , WAREHOUSES, GARAGES, A GARAGE . A STORAGE IS A STORAGE AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO, AND IT'S STILL STORAGE. AND I DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE AND I LIVE IN FIRE WHEEL, BUT I LIVE BEHIND THE STORAGE UNITS. I THINK GARLAND HAS A REPUTATION, ESPECIALLY IN FIREWALL AREA THAT DOES NOT WARRANT THIS KIND OF THING. WE HAVE HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE TAKE GREAT RESPECT AND PRIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THIS PARTICULAR THING IS FITTING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER THIS EVENING, JIM GALLEGOS. WHEN YOU COME DOWN NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS JIM DIEGO'S I LIVE AT 608 CEDAR COVE DRIVE, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM WHERE THERE'S INSTALLATION IS I WILL PREFACE WHAT I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU IS I'M A CAR GUY. OKAY LUCKILY MY LOVELY WIFE OF 44 YEARS ENDORSES THAT, TOO. AND SO I'VE GOT TO HIGH END CARS. AH I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THEM ABOUT WHAT THESE PLEASING STRUCTURES ALL ABOUT. I HAVE BEEN TO PROBABLY NEARLY ALL OF THEIR INSTALLATIONS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAR GUYS DO.

THEY GO AND HANG OUT WITH OTHER CAR GUYS. SO BUT THERE'S SOME VERY VALID CONCERNS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE. AH THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT ARE VERY WELL BUILT, VERY PLEASING. MASONRY AND BRICK. THE LANDSCAPING IS GOOD ON EACH ONE OF THEM THAT I'VE BEEN TO I HAVE FRIENDS WHO OWN GARAGES AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS AND THEY STORE CARS. AS WAS MENTIONED. THESE GUYS DON'T GO AND WORK ON THEIR CARS. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M SURE THAT SOME OF THEM DO. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE TAKING ENGINES APART. I'VE NEVER SEEN SPARE TIRES IN THE DRIVEWAYS. I'VE NEVER SEEN OIL CANS SITTING AROUND IN THE IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, VERY WELL MANAGED, AND THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR HIGH END CARS. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S UH IT WOULD BE VERY PILLING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY I AM IMPRESSED BY THE SECURITY THAT THEY HAVE AT EACH ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS. AND YOU CAN BET THAT SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO

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NO. WE WERE ASKING FOR MORE PARKING NO, WE SPENT ON THAT. I FEEL LIKE YOU. THIS COULD BE A GOOD ADDITION. BUT I WORRY THAT AND I'VE LIVED IN GARLAND SINCE 1986. AND I WAS IN THE ORIGINAL

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A. WE NEVER HEARD BACK. WE CAN COMMUNICATED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TRYING TO GET MORE PHONE NUMBERS. WE FINALLY GOT HIM FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. AND HAD OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THEM LAST WEEK. THAT'S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD GET OUT THERE AND COMMUNICATE AND EDUCATE SO THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THE QUALITY. THE BUSINESS. THE OPERATIONS. OKAY, IT'S A SHAME WHEN IT GETS SHOVED INTO SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT IT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS GOOD COMMUNICATION. NOISE THAT THAT'S A NON ISSUE. WHITES. EVERYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO HAVE WALL PACKS THAT ARE AIMED DOWN AT THE DRIVEWAY. ONE OF YOUR DISPLAY AH, SCREENS HAD THAT PHOTO METRIC IT'S NOT LIKE THIS PROTRUDING OUT OF THE PROPERTY. OR INTO THE STREETS OR INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYTHING IS ORIENTED TOWARDS THE GROUND, SO THAT'S THAT'S A NON ISSUE. UH BRICK WALLS VERSUS METAL. THIS IS NOT A METAL BUILDING. AGAIN IT'S 94% LIMESTONE. AND GLASS.

IT'S A QUALITY STRUCTURE WERE ORIENTED THE ENDS OF THE BUILDINGS TOWARDS THE STREETS.

SO YOU DON'T EVEN SEE DOORS. YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK WAY DOWN THE DRIVEWAYS TO SEE ANY DOORS AND THAT WILL BE MINIMAL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXCELLENT SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING FROM THE STREET GOT ABOUT ONE MINUTE LEFT. OKAY? UH, GARLAND IS NOT ON OUR WEBSITE. I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT'S A THAT'S A FALSE STATEMENT. WE DO HAVE IT IN A FUND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE EQUITY FOR, AND THAT'S NOT ON OUR WEBSITE, SO THAT'S A MISNOMER. AH! SELL STORIES.

ALLEN I BUILT ALLEN. A SELF STORAGE WITH GARAGES ON THAT SHOPPING CENTER SITE. IT WAS UNLIKE ALLOWABLE USAGE. THEY APPROVED IT IN THE P D. THERE WAS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION. FOR THAT, SO TO SAY THAT. SELF STORAGE FACILITY. PART OF IT IS A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. 96,000

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PASS THIS UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. MISSIONER PARIS. THAT WAS ON FOR THE THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DALTON THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS TONIGHT. UM PROPOSITION TO THE FACILITY DUE TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT I COULD ADDRESS SUCH AS TRAFFIC. ALL NAME AND FOREST IS PRETTY MUCH A NON ISSUE EXCEPT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE, THE ONLY ONES ARE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS THERE. ALL ACCESS CENTER ANNOUNCE OFF OF THE SERVICE ROAD. LIGHTING CODES REQUIRE. PHOTO PATRICK SHOULD BE DONE TO PREVENT THAT LIGHTING OF THE PROPERTY FROM GOING OUTSIDE.

HAVING SAID THAT? IT'S STILL LOOKS LIKE. A STORAGE BUILDING TO ME. I. WE'RE KIND OF CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE GDC AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. COVERING THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S A NEW THING. BUT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEW THINGS COME THROUGH THIS COMMISSION OVER THE YEARS.

THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED IN ONE MANNER. ANOTHER, INCLUDING MAKING ADDENDUMS TO THE GDC TO COVER THESE THINGS. UM. I THINK THIS IS A PROBABLY VERY NEEDY. ARE NEEDED. TYPE FACILITY. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THERE THAT IT WAS. IT NEEDS TO BE. I JUST CAN'T SEE WHAT I FEEL LIKE AS A C ONE. OCCUPY A LIKE COMMERCIAL GOING INTO RESIDENTIAL AREA LIKE THAT. I HATE TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO BE VOTING AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR. APPLICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING. IF NOT, WE WILL AWAIT THE MOTION. WE HAVE WE HAVE EXACT SAME TIME.

I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER ROBIN FIRST THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM OUR MEN VERY EXCUSE ME. AH! I REMAIN VERY MUCH ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. UM AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DALTON THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WOULD HAVE SOME NEED NEWS. I AGREE WITH MR GALLEGOS THAT UM. YOU KNOW, THIS IS LAND THAT IT'S. IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED.

IT'S RIGHT ON BUSH TURNPIKE. THIS IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED. UM AS FAR AS THE OTHER POTENTIAL USES FOR WHAT COULD BE HERE, PARTICULARLY WITH SOMETHING THAT IS OWNED COMMUNITY RETAIL THROUGH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT COULD COME IN BY RIGHT. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT VERY RECENT DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT REGARDING AH APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT. FIVE OR FIVE WERE CENTERVILLE. BUT WHAT ELSE COULD COME IN BY RIGHT? UM, AND SO THAT THAT THAT CONCERNS ME. AND IN THAT REGARD, I THINK A UM. I THINK A LOW INTENSITY USE LIKE THIS, UH IS NOT UNREASONABLE.

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KIND OF COMMERCIAL USE. UM THAT WE TYPICALLY THINK OF THE LOOK OF THE BUILDINGS MAY BE SOMEWHAT COMMERCIAL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT. THIS ISN'T YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I GUESS CAN BE HANDLED. IF THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE THAT'S NOT REALLY IN OUR PURVIEW. THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT EVEN THINGS LIKE BUILDING MATERIALS OR NOT, WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF A MUNICIPAL AH LED, UM THAT SAID. UH YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY. SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST MISFIRE FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

AND, UM. AND I WOULD BE INCLINED ACTUALLY, TOO. TO PROVE THIS WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ALL WORK WITH PLANNING TO BRING SOME WITH PLANNING AND WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM TO BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL THAT HAD MORE OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITHIN THE PD THAT WOULD PREVENT A YOU KNOW? THE USES THAT COULD AT SOME POINT COME IN , OR THINGS THAT COULD BE CHANGED THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH YOU. YOU KNOW THESE THINGS BEING CONNED CONDOMINIUM STYLE.

IT'S A OWNED IS A KIND OF A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OWNERSHIP GROUP THAT OWNS EVERYTHING IN RENTS IT OUT. THERE'S A THERE'S A MUCH GREATER DEGREE OF CONTROL, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN PEOPLE OWN THESE THINGS FOR THEMSELVES, AND THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR IT. THERE'S ALSO AN INCLINATION TO TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE OF YOUR SPACE. SO IT'S KIND OF 61 HALF DOZEN OF THE OTHER, BUT MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND THAT IT BE APPROVED WITH MORE RESTRICTIONS. AND THAT THERE BE MORE. HMM AND IN THE TRAWL DO ACTUALLY MEET WITH THESE. YOU KNOW, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN TO COUNSEL. IT'S NOT AN EASY OR OR THE COMMISSION IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO. I MEAN, IN TODAY'S WORLD AT THE INCLINATION IS TO STAY AT HOME. AH! AND YOU KNOW, BE A KEYBOARD WARRIOR. BUT YOU KNOW, SO THESE FOLKS ARE SUPER ENGAGED, AND I THINK THEY HAVE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT AND REASONABLE CONCERNS. AND IF I WAS THEM, I AGREE. I THOUGHT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT BETTER MATCHES THE ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU SEE AT UM. THAT YOU SEE AT THE CURTIS CALDWELL CENTER THAT YOU SEE AT THE KILL WITH READ TECHNICAL CENTER. UM SO.

YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE AS AS THE CHAIRMAN TONIGHT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING BODY. BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL HERE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE BETWEEN HERE AND GETTING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REALLY MAKE THIS A TOP NOTCH PRODUCT PRODUCT. NOT THAT IT ISN'T ALREADY A GREAT PRODUCT. DON'T TAKE THAT AS A CRITICISM, BUT YOU KNOW WE CAN MAKE WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE THINGS BETTER. WE CAN ALWAYS ITERATE. WE CAN ALWAYS ADDRESS WE CAN ADDRESS CONCERNS OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE YOU KNOW THE PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY NEARBY AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THE THOSE ARE MY TWO CENTS ON THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSE. IF COMMISSIONER ALL BEEN IS MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE, I WOULD SECOND IT IS THAT TRUE? INTER COMMENT, SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS. JUST A FEW THINGS. UM, ONE OF THEM WOULD BE A WELL I WOULD I WOULD IRRADIATE SAID THAT WRONG WORD WRONG, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I DO APPRECIATE FOLKS COMING TO SHARE YOUR VIEWPOINTS TO ENLIGHTEN US OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE EVEN SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCES. UM AND IN THIS SPACE, AND SO, SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. UM THE OTHER THING IS ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE BEST USE OF LAND AND IS HIDING CITY LOW DENSITY, THE BEST USE OF LAND, ETCETERA. AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I AM THINKING THROUGH AS WELL VERSUS THE PRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO US AS FAR AS USE OF LAND AND THEN THE CONCERNS VERSUS LIGHT COMMERCIAL, ETCETERA. AND SO I AM ON THE FENCE AS WELL IN TERMS OF, UM, DECISION, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY WITH, UM UH, COMMISSIONER AUBURN MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING A MORE OF A VOTING WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS . AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST TO BE SURE THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, UH, HERE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT'S EMBEDDED INTO WHAT? YOUR VOTE. MAYBE NOT. WHAT YOUR VOTE, BUT WHICH I RECOMMENDATION MAYBE. ON THOSE RESTRICTIONS

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NOTHING MATTERS MORE THAN NOTHING MORE THAN A TOUCH UP PAINT. NOBODY WORK, NO THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE BUT I DON'T KNOW. ARE THOSE ALREADY PART OF HEAVY AUTOMOTIVE OR LOSE THAT CONSIDERED LIGHT AUTOMOTIVE? TWO EXAMPLES YOU GAVE ARE IN THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR AUTO REPAIR , BODYWORK AND COLLISION REPAIR AND PAINTING SO THAT THAT'S ALREADY BELIEVE TAKEN CARE OF. BUT IF THERE'S FURTHER REFINEMENT, REFINEMENT AS FAR AS WE'RE STICKING IT ONLY TO ONE TENANT SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM MINOR ONLY IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT, TO RESTRICT THAT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO DO I KNOW YOU ALL CAN DO IT. BUT IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SUGGEST HER RESTRICTION ON THE OVERALL AH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OR VOLUME OR OR SIZE OF, OR AMOUNT OF AUTO REPAIR PERMITTED WITHIN THAT.

STRUCTURE. WHATEVER IT IS 36,000 FT OR SOMETHING. THEN. THAT'D BE BUT SUPPORT THAT TOO. JUST KEEP ADDING THINGS INTO THE MOTION TO THE BULL. YOU BASE YOUR EMOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY? DOES THE SECOND CONCUR WITH THE REVISION TO THE FIRST MOTION? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION THIS EVENING THAT WE'RE FACING AS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF ITEMS THREE AND THREE B WITH RESTRICTIONS SUCH THAT ONLY A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE UTILIZED FOR BOTH STORAGE AND AUTOMOTIVE USED BY POTENTIALLY SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT THERE IS A. COOL COOPERATIVE AND I WILL LEAVE THIS TO YOU, SIR. COOPERATIVE REVISION OF THE PD WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CONSIDERATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. YOU GOTTA LEAVE. THAT LAST PART IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE APPLICANT . NOT PART OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT I THINK WE ARE CLEAR AS MUD REGARDING WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PREPARE THE NEVER BEEN

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[3C.Consideration of the application of Jake Finch, Cascade Companies, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to Single-Family Attached (SFA) District. This property is located at 613 and 615 Rowlett Road. (District 4) (Z 23-22)]

ADDISON, TEXAS 75001. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE TO THE TO THE AUDIENCE. GIVE US JUST A SECOND, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO RIGHT AHEAD. UM, GOOD EVENING. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE IN GARLAND TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR PROJECT, THE RESERVE AT ROSE HILL. WE NAMED IT THE RESERVE BECAUSE OF THE LARGE SWATH OF TREES ON THE FAR WEST SOUTHWEST SIDE. PLAN ON KEEPING THOSE WERE LIKE THE CREEK AREA, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO WE FELT LIKE THE RESERVE WAS A VERY, VERY WELL SUITED NAMED FOR THE PROJECT. UM SO TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING THE CITY ALLOW US TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. AFTER REVIEW RESULTING ORDINANCE, WE FEEL THAT ALL OF YOUR STANDARDS ARE IN LINE WITH OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT. AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE STAFF AND ALL THE COMMUNICATION THEY'VE GIVEN US IN MAKING THE DECISION TO GO STRAIGHT ZONING RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. UM WE DO FEEL LIKE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL AREA TOWARDS THE SOUTH AND THE WEST, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GREAT BUFFER.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT THE LARGE SWATH OF TREES AND THE NATURE PRESERVE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER AS WELL AS THE DALLAS COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE FACILITY JUST TO THE EAST. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT BUFFER FOR THE PROJECT AND THE INTENDED USE. WE HAVE UM WE'VE TAKEN SIGNIFICANT STEPS TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG GOAL OF OURS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. THEY HAD CONCERNS THEY HAD, AND WE DID THAT IN THREE WAYS. SO WE SENT OUR OWN PRIVATE NOTIFICATION LETTER PRIOR TO THE CITY. SENDING THERE'S FEEL LIKE THIS LETTER WAS GOING TO HELP SOFTEN THE BLOW OF GETTING A NOTIFICATION LETTER FROM THE CITY. UM IN THAT LETTER. WE DID A COUPLE THINGS. ONE INTRODUCED THEM TO WHO WE WERE, AS A DEVELOPER INTRODUCED HIM TO THE PROJECT LOCATION. WHAT WE WERE DOING MADE THEM AWARE OF THE CITY MEETING DATES, INCLUDING THIS MEETING TONIGHT. INVITED THEM TO OUR PROJECT, MEET AND GREET WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN A MINUTE AS WELL AS WE MADE A WEBSITE SOLELY JUST FOR THIS PROJECT CALLED R. M SORRY. YOU CAN FIND IT AT THE RESERVE AT ROSE HILL DOT COM. YOU CAN GO THERE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT. UM SO, UH, I JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE WEBSITE. WE MADE THAT WEBSITE SOLELY FOR THIS PROJECT, SO THE GOAL WAS TO GIVE RESIDENTS AND ABILITY TO GO ONLINE REVIEW. WHAT WE'RE DOING.

GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. IF YOU GO TO THE PAGE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A HALF QUESTIONS PAGE THAT EMAILED US DIRECTLY. AS OF PROBABLY SIX PM WE HAVE GOTTEN ZERO EMAILS ON THAT THAT EMAIL, UM BUT WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. WE ALSO HAVE EXHIBITS THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IN THIS IN THIS SLIDE IS THAT IF I CAN GO THROUGH THAT LATER HAVE THOSE EXHIBITS ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY , WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEET AND GREET. WE HELD THAT LAST THURSDAY AT THE SOUTH GARLAND PUBLIC LIBRARY. THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING TO US. VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM, COMMISSIONER I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS WAS PRESENT AS WELL AS CITY STAFF TO HELP UM JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE RESIDENTS. BUT ALSO OBVIOUSLY ALAN AND I WERE THERE AS WELL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. HAD EXHIBITS HAD REFRESHMENTS. UM AT THAT MEETING AS WELL. WE OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO TAKE MULTIPLE STEPS AND MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ANSWER DIRECT QUESTIONS. UM SO OVERALL. UM AGAIN. WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO BE UP HERE TONIGHT. WE WOULD ASK, UH, FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH COUNCIL. UM AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I PROBABLY SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS EXHIBIT. CAN I JUST USE THIS IS THAT IT DOES WORK.

LOOK AT THAT, OKAY? SO, UM IN THE PAINFUL WE GAVE. WE JUST HAVE A COMPANY OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE. WE SPECIALIZE IN SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALL ACROSS TEXAS. DFW IS OUR HOME, THOUGH, AND SO THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF OUR PROJECT. UM WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE OBVIOUSLY HAD THE NOTIFICATION LETTER WE SENT THE WEBSITE. AH, THERE'S THE HALF QUESTIONS. IT'S LITERALLY THE FIRST THING YOU PULL UP. UM AND THAT WENT

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THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT LANGLEY'S HAD, BUT THE OTHER ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS CAN YOU SEE THE CURSOR? THERE I BELIEVE THAT'S THAT'S THING.

IT'S OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. BUT I'M SORRY. SO OVERALL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU GUYS HAVE THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ROSE ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE GARLAND AREA AT ALL? YES, I AM. SHILOH. AND BUCKINGHAM. THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE CALLED RIVER SET. YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT WITH THIS ONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT EXPERIENCE. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. AH! DEVELOPMENT HOUSES, AND THEY'RE IN THEIR SECOND PHASE ALREADY. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING. UM. RIGHT FORGIVE ME. I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT INTERSECTION HAVE NOT DRIVEN THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT. UM THIS IS WHAT WE DIDN'T SCROLL DOWN FAR ENOUGH. SO THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. UM, YES, SIR. YEAH YEAH, THAT'S THE BOTTOM ONE. THAT'S ABOUT HALF THERE. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT RIVER SET LOOKS LIKE. WELL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT STYLE, BUT IT'S A SERIES OF ATTACHED. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND IT'S ENORMOUS. ENORMOUS I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY TWICE THE SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING, OKAY? THANK YOU. OF COURSE. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. I FACT I WAS. WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS IF YOU HAD ANY KIND OF A DETAILED PLAN AT ALL SINCE YOU'RE ASKING FOR JUST A ZONING CHANGE AT THIS TIME WITHOUT AN ATTACHED DETAILED PLAN. WE DO HAVE A PLAN. UM AM I GUESS I CAN SCROLL TO IT. UM WE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE JUST DOING STRAIGHT ZONING AT THIS POINT, SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT GARLAND HAS PUT IN PLACE AND THERE, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD JUST WITH THE STRAIGHT ZONING. WE DO HAVE A PLAN JUST FOR US. UM, HOWEVER, IS MR KIERAN. HAS. BEEN GREAT IN COMMUNICATING WITH US THAT THIS IS NOT PART OF THE OBVIOUSLY THE STRAIGHT ZONING PACKAGE SO YES, WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT IT'S WORKING WITH OUR BUILDER PARTNERS THAT MAY SLIGHTLY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHEN OPEN SPACE NEEDS TO SHIFT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU FORESEE ANY MAJOR REQUESTS FOR DEVIATIONS, MR CHAIR? I WOULD RECOMMEND WE STAY FOCUSED ON THE ZONE. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER PARIS. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING. I DROVE BY AS WELL BECAUSE I LIVED IN THE OTHER AND , UM, AND FROM THE STREET VIEW. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ANOTHER HOME. SO THANK YOU FOR JUST REALLY REITERATING THAT THAT IS, UM REALLY OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT THAT LAND AND THE ONE NEXT TO IT. I THINK I HEARD EARLIER THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE REMOVED THE HOME NEXT TO SO THERE'S A THERE WAS THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AND THEN THERE'S A HOME NEXT TO THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED. IS THAT CORRECT? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THE HOME? THAT IS. UM, I PULLED UP THE AERIAL RIGHT NOW. SO THE HOME THAT IS DIRECTLY ON PALLET ROAD , THIS ONE IS NOT PART OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY OKAY. OKAY SO THE HOME THAT WILL BE IS PART OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THIS HERE AND THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED WITH THE PROJECT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS AFRICAN SAYING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING THIS ITEM. YES SAYING NONE. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER THREE C FOR CHANGING ZONING FROM AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT. HERE WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COLONISTS AND THE

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ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION. SAYING NONE. LET'S PREPARE THE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU AGAIN AND THIS CONCLUDES TONIGHT'S EVENING . WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING WILL BE ON MONDAY. AUGUST 14TH. THANK YOU AGAIN AND HAVE A PEACEFUL NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.