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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MONDAY AUGUST 14TH 2023 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. JUST A QUICK REMINDER. WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER THIS, AND INFORMATION WAS SENT OUT EARLIER ITEM ONE ON THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL NOT BE REVIEWING TONIGHT. IT WILL COME BACK AT A LATER SO BUT WE ARE STILL MEETING ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE. MOVING ON THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM. ONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THE NIGHT, OKAY? NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TO CONSIDER THE
[2. Consider the Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REQUESTS TO HAVE ANYTHING PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY . BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TIME FOR THAT STILL TO HAPPEN, AND IF THERE IS THE MORE ADVANCED NOTICE, WE CAN GET THE BETTER. MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE WRITTEN[3. Written Briefings]
BRIEFINGS. EXCUSE ME, ADAM THREE, A PROPOSED PART TIME ASSOCIATE JUDGE APPOINTMENT.ITEM THREE B MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION REQUEST AT 19 01 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. ITEM. THREE C. CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE PENDING ITEMS LIST. ITEM THREE D CONSIDERING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF TAX NOTES OF APPROXIMATELY 40.3 MILLION. ITEM THREE E. GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ORDINANCE, 1.51 ENGINEERING REVIEW AND INSPECTION FEE. ITEM THREE F CONSIDER ASSISTANCE FOR THE 2023 LABOR DAY PARADE. AND ITEM THREE G INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO SUMMARY ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR VERBAL BRIEFINGS. FOR A HOME IMPROVEMENT. INCENTIVE
[4.a. Home Improvement Incentive Program Update]
PROGRAM UPDATE. MR BOLLINGER. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU ALL BRIGHT. MRS DE LA VEGA WILL BE LEADING THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT . I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AT THE END, BUT, UM UM, WE'VE WE'VE DONE THIS PROGRAM FOR WHAT? FOUR YEARS NOW, AND EVERY YEAR WE DO AN END OF FUNDING AND OF YOUR UPDATE THAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR VEGA. AWESOME. WELL, AMERICA COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING WAS ABOUT TO SAY WEEKEND , BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING DIFFERENT MEETING OVER THE WEEKEND. YES ABSOLUTELY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THESE UPDATES WITH YOU, UM TO THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH WE ALSO REFERRED TO AS HIP. UM SO TO REVIEW WE AIM TO ENCOURAGE HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF THEIR HOMES BY WAY OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES WITH THE GOALS OF PREVENTING BLIGHT, IMPROVING PROPERTY VALUES, UM, INSPIRING APPLICANTS, NEIGHBORS TO ALSO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIORS OF THEIR HOMES. UM AND THEN ALSO INCREASING THE COMPETITIVE DRAW OF GARLAND NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SO IN ITS FIRST YEAR, CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATED $250,000 TO THIS PROGRAM, UM, AND FUNDING WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMMITTED IN ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS. THE NEXT YEAR, UM , FUNDING WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMMITTED WITHIN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AND THEN IN 2022 COUNCIL GENEROUSLY, UM, ALLOCATED $500,000 TO THE PROGRAM, UM, WHICH WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMMITTED WITHIN ABOUT THREE MONTHS AND IN 2023 $500,000 WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMMITTED WITHIN ABOUT TWO MONTHS. SO CALLED THAT A TREND YES. SO VERY POPULAR PROGRAM. UM SO TO REVIEW SOME CURRENT PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS HOMEOWNERS CAN RECEIVE A CASH REBATE OF UP TO HALF OF THE TOTAL COST OF PRE APPROVED ELIGIBLE EXTERIOR PROJECT. SO TOTAL PROJECT COSTS MUST BE AT LEAST $1000 WITH A MINIMUM REBATE OF $500 AND A MAXIMUM REBATE OF $10,000. UM THIS PROGRAM IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES THAT MUST BE AT
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LEAST 30 YEARS OLD AND CANNOT EXCEED THE TOTAL D CAD MEDIAN HOME VALUE OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES IN GARLAND. SORRY THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. UM ALSO RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROJECT. PROGRAM. SO FOR 2023, WE APPROVED 104 APPLICATIONS, UM, TO DATE $343,800 HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR REBATES WITH ABOUT 250 57,000 IN REMAINING FUNDS. UM, THE ACTUAL THE AVERAGE ACTUAL REBATE IS 4710 PER PROPERTY WITH THE TOTAL ACTUAL INVESTMENT OF 912,430.YOU DOLLARS SO AVERAGED OUT. THIS IS ABOUT A $12,500 INVESTMENT PER PROPERTY. UM FOR THE FOURTH YEAR, RUNNING WINDOWS WERE THE MOST POPULAR PROJECT GETTING A POPULAR PROJECT WITH THE PROGRAM WITH 48 PROPERTIES GETTING NEW WINDOWS. UM AND THEN ABOUT 6.7% OF ALL THE PARTICIPATING PROPERTIES WERE RENTALS. FROM THIS MAP. WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE 2023 HIP PROPERTIES AND RED DOTS. UM YOU CAN ALSO SEE PREVIOUS YEAR, UH, PROPERTIES IN ORANGE, BLUE AND GREEN. UM AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED GARLAND CDBG ELIGIBLE AREAS. AH BUT WELL, WHICH WE WILL GO INTO FURTHER AND FUTURE SLIDES. SO DIGGING INTO SOME REPAIR TYPES, AS MENTIONED BEFORE WINDOWS WERE THE MOST POPULAR REPAIR AT 24. FOLLOWED BY FENCE REPLACEMENT AT 1919.5% HOUSE REPAINTING MOVED UP A SPOT BUMPING DOWN EXTERIOR DOOR REPLACEMENT DOWN TO FOURTH.
UM AND FIFTH. WE HAVE GUTTER INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT, UM , FOLLOWED BY CITING ROOF SOFFIT BHATIA, UM, FOUNDATION REPAIRS. UM SORRY, FRONT FRONT PORCH EDITIONS AND REPAIRS, THEN FOUNDATION REPAIRS AND THEN FINALLY, REPEAT PLACING DRIVEWAYS THIS YEAR. NONE OF THE APPROVED APPLICATIONS AND INCLUDED REMOVING ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR ADDING OR REPAIRING GARAGES. SO WE DID RECEIVE MANY COMPLIMENTS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE PUT IT JUST A COUPLE OF HERE FOR YOU TO VIEW BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS SAID THAT HE FELT LIKE HE BOUGHT A NEW HOME WITHOUT EVEN NEEDING TO MOVE, SO WE'LL CERTAINLY COUNT THIS AS OWEN. BUT AS I MENTIONED THE VERY POPULAR PROGRAM. LAST YEAR CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO SET THE APPRAISED VALUE CAP AT THE MEDIAN AT THE MEDIAN APPRAISED VALUE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. SO FOR 2024 THAT WILL BE 268,000 SO APPLICATIONS WITH A TOTAL D CAD APPRAISED VALUE OVER 268,000 WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED. ALSO LAST YEAR, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY TO, UM, RESERVE AT LEAST 50% OF THE AVAILABLE HIP FUNDS FOR CDBG AREAS. SO OVERALL ABOUT 7 57% OF THE APPROVED APPLICATIONS RN CDBG AREAS WITH THE REMAINING 43% IN NON CDBG. ELIGIBLE AREAS.
SO IF WE AIM TO DEPLETE FUNDING NO LATER THAN SEVEN MONTHS AFTER APPLICATIONS OPEN ABOUT 14% OF THE FUNDS SHOULD BE COMMITTED EACH MONTH. SO WITH THAT IN MIND WITH THE FOR THE PROMOTIONAL STRATEGY, WE WILL LAUNCH PROGRAM ANNOUNCEMENTS FEAR THE WEBSITE GARLAND DEPRESSED NEIGHBORHOOD CHATTER AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. IN JANUARY. AND THEN WE WILL ESCALATE PROMOTIONS. IF COMMITTED FUNDING IS NOT MEETING ITS, UM IT'S APPROPRIATE MILESTONES. SO UM, IF 28% IS NOT COMMITTED BY THE END OF THE SECOND MONTH, UM WE WILL EXPAND ONLINE MESSAGING THROUGH NEXT DOOR, THE CHATTER CITY WEBSITE AND SO ON. UM IF 42% OF THE FUNDING IS NOT COMMITTED BY THE
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END OF THE THIRD MONTH. UM THIS WILL TRIGGER THE SUBMISSION OF A GARLAND CITY PRESS ARTICLE, UM, THAT WILL APPEAR IN THE FIFTH MONTH OF THE SEVEN MONTH CYCLE AND THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO MORE FREQUENT ONLINE. UM MESSAGING THROUGH THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED CHANNELS. JUST ONE THING WE WANTED TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THIS SORT OF REALM IS WE'RE RESEARCHING A NEW PROGRAM THAT'S DESIGNED IN TERMS OF EYES. BIG LARGE SCALE RENOVATIONS PER FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM THE SIMILAR TO OUR HIP WAS DONE. WE PLAN ON TAKING THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DELIBERATION AND FINE TUNING, AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT WE WOULD TAKE THAT TO FULL COUNCIL FOR FURTHER DEBATE , SO THAT WILL COME IN. THAT WILL BE IN THE COMING MONTHS. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE YET. WE'RE STILL IN THE RESEARCH DISCOVERY PHASE OF THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON. ALSO REALLY BIG. THANK YOU. THIS ISN'T IN THE SLIDE, BUT IT'S A REALLY BIG THANK YOU TO THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT. THIS THIS, UM PROGRAM WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEIR HELP. THEY DO ALL THE NOT JUST THE THINGS THAT REQUIRE PERMITS, BUT FOR THIS PROGRAM, THEY ALSO, UM LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT DON'T FOR THE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE PERMITS. SO UM, THIS THIS PROGRAM BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT THEIR ASSISTANCE. AND THEN ALSO, I THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY. WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN. FRONT DESK OR STOREFRONT OR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, SO WE LEAN ON THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR SOME OF THAT, UM, SO THEY FIELD PHONE CALLS THEY TAKE IN, YOU KNOW, OFFICE VISITS THAT AREN'T THAT AREN'T UM THAT WE DON'T HAVE APPOINTMENTS FOR, SO THEY'VE BEEN. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL IN IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM, SO WE'RE SORT OF THE FACE OF IT. BUT IMAGINE THE BUILDING SPECTRUM DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BEHIND US MAKING THIS WORK. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? CASA REMORSE. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL FOR CARRYING OUT THE VISION THAT WE, UM, DUMPED ON YOU, UM AS FAR AS AS EVERYTHING THE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS THE CDBG COVERAGE ALL OF THAT. UM SUPER WELL DONE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. UM ON THE, UM THE AVERAGE UM, ACTUAL REBATE BEING 4710. UM. WITH THAT BEING AN AVERAGE DO YOU HAVE HANDY? WHAT IS THE HIGHEST REBATE WE DID ON A PROPERTY THIS YEAR AND ALSO THE LOWEST THE HIGHEST WOULD BE 10,000. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL THAT HAVE GONE UP TO THE PROGRAM. MAXIMUM 20,000, RIGHT. UM SO A $10,000 AVERAGE. I MEAN, ACTUAL REBATE WOULD BE THE HIGHEST THE LOWEST I THINK WE HAVE DONE 1000 OR MAYBE JUST A LITTLE OVER 1000. I THINK IT'S 1200 IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST ALRIGHT. SO WE'RE WE'RE STRETCHING THE HIGH END THE LOW LIMITS, WHICH WE SHOULD BE DOING SO, SO THAT'S GREAT. AND IF OUR AVERAGE IS RIGHT IN BETWEEN, IT DOESN'T GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT. UM, DO HAVE WE HAD ANY REPEAT CUSTOMERS? APPLICANTS WHO HAVE COME IN AND DONE ONE IMPROVEMENT WITH THE REBATE AND THEN COME BACK. MAYBE IN A SUCCESSIVE YEAR AND DONE IT AGAIN. SO APPLICANTS THEY HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAST ONE YEAR FROM WHEN THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR PROJECT SO OFTEN TIMES. UM THIS DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THEM TO, UH, APPLIED IN BACK TO BACK YEARS. AND SO, UM, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE HAD SOME APPLICANTS. UM DO IT AT LEAST TWO TIMES. I BELIEVE, OKAY.
ALRIGHT UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND AGAIN. WELL DONE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MARY EVENING. WOULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR USE USES SLIDE, WE SHOWED THE KIND OF REPAIRS YEAH, THERE. UH MY QUESTION, ISN'T IT ? SCOTT YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION NUMBER OF TIMES AND I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AGAIN. UM AND IN MY INDUSTRY WHEN MOST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY WAS WAS BUILT. THEY HAD FENCES, WOODEN FENCES SHOOT. PROBABLY GOT A HANDFUL OF CHAIN LINK, BUT MOST OF IT IS WOODEN. AND THAT FENCING IS OLDER THAN MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM. AND IT'S SO MUCH SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, PARTICULARLY SCOTT. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ANY THOUGHTS OF HOW LOOKING FORWARD WE CAN EXPAND GREAT JOB WITH THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE. THAT WE COULD
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EXPAND AVAILABILITY INFORMATION. HOW CAN WE DO MAYBE TO ADDRESS THAT NEED AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. I TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT, BUT ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ON HOW UH, FOR THOSE FOLKS LIKE I SAID, IN MY DISTRICT, THE MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILIES ARE SURROUNDED BY BY FENCES THAT ARE THAT YOU WERE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN THEY WERE BUILT. SO ANY THOUGHTS GOT ON ON HOW YOU THINK WE COULD, UH MAYBE, UM. REACH OUT OR THINGS THAT YOU THINK WE CAN DO, MOVING FORWARD. TO MAYBE NOT TO ADDRESS THAT NEED. FENCES AND PARTICULAR I COULD SEE ON THE PROMOTIONAL SIDE SAYING SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN OLD FENCE.CHECK OUT THIS PROGRAM, SO WE SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT FENCES AS AN ELIGIBLE THING RATHER THAN SAYING THERE'S THIS THING OUT THERE AND FENCES COULD BE ELIGIBLE. WE COULD HIGHLIGHT FENCES. SPECIFICALLY WE COULD ALSO TARGET THAT TO SPECIFIC AREAS. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE DESIRE THAT'S SAYING A AH! UH FENCES IN THIS AREA. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER PROGRAM? WE COULD PROMOTE IT THAT WAY. BUT I THINK UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK PROMOTIONAL WOULD BE THE WAY TO HANDLE THAT RATHER THAN I DON'T . I DON'T SEE A POLICY CHANGE THAT WOULD FIT FOR THAT. RIGHT ALRIGHT. APPRECIATE YOU, SCOTT AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. THIS IS THIS WAS A LONG TIME COMING LONG TIME DISCUSSED AND IT IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE IT DOING EXACTLY WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOVING ON
[4.b. Charter Review Process]
TO ITEM FOUR. B EXCUSE ME. CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS, MR ENGLAND. DEALING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M UP HERE WITH TREY LAWRENCE. HE'S GOING TO BE THE ATTORNEY SITTING WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND HE'LL BE THE ONE REPORTING BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT THEY ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF, UM REVISIONS. POSSIBLE REVISIONS TO THE CHARTER. I'M JUST GOING QUICKLY OVER THE PROCESS AND HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. NOW, JUST HAVING SAID THAT THIS ISN'T THE PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW OR BY CHARTER. ANY PROVISIONS AT ALL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO OF COURSE OF THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS TO CHANGE THE PROCESS. YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT THE IDEA HERE IS TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO DO A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF YOUR GIVING ME FEEDBACK TRAY FEEDBACK . MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE CHARGING INSTRUMENT TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. AND AS YOU ALL GIVE US IDEAS TONIGHT, AND WHAT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE CHARGING INSTRUMENT THAT IS THE INSTRUMENT THAT GIVES DIRECTION TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WHAT TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF CHARTER PROVISIONS. CURRENT CHARTER PROVISIONS WILL WRAP THEM DOWN WILL RECORD THEM INTO AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT. WE'RE INTO A ORIGINAL DRAFT. AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT WORK SESSION AND WE'LL ACTUALLY GET THAT DRAFT TO Y'ALL ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY BEFORE THEIR NEXT WORK SESSION. THAT WAY, YOU'LL HAVE THE WEEKEND TO LOOK IT OVER. THINK ABOUT IT. MARK IT UP, AND THEN MONDAY WILL COME BACK AND ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL SUBSTITUTE . SUBSTANTIVE DEBATE. Y'ALL WILL ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS CHARGING INSTRUMENT. WHAT WHAT DOESN'T SOME OF Y'ALL MAY HAVE IDEAS THAT EVERYBODY AGREES ON, AND SOME OF Y'ALL MAY HAVE IDEAS THAT NO ONE AGREES ON. EXCEPT YOU. AND SO YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT POINT. GIVE TRADE THAT CONSENSUS , THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT PARTICULAR IDEA WILL GO INTO THE CHARGING INSTRUMENT. UM AND SO THIS WEEK , IT'S JUST BASICALLY A BRAINSTORMING. UM IF WE HAD A WHITEBOARD TO BE A WHITEBOARD SESSION WHERE WE JUST WRITE STUFF DOWN, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT INTO A DOCUMENT. WE'LL GET THAT DOCUMENT TO YOU BY EMAIL AND THEN COME BACK. NEXT WORK SESSION WILL DEBATE IT, AND THEN THAT FOLLOWING TUESDAY, WILL APPOINT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AND SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED AND COMPLETED. HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE SOME IDEAS ON WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENTATIVE TO BE. KEEP IN MIND. IN THAT PROCESS. THE REPRESENTATIVE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM YOUR DISTRICT. IT IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COME FROM YOUR DISTRICT AND COME FROM ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. AND IT CAN BE SOMEBODY THAT'S SERVING ON ANOTHER COMMITTEE NOW AND SO, UM, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S NOT A PERMANENT COMMITTEE. IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO HAVING SAID THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE IDEAS Y'ALL HAVE. AND OF COURSE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THESE IDEAS AND DEBATE THESE IDEAS TONIGHT, I'M NOT IN CONTROL OF Y'ALL. SO Y'ALL FEEL FREE. UM UM, UM TO TALK AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT AS MUCH YOU WOULD LIKE. MY RECOMMENDATION IS[00:20:05]
JUST GIVE THEM TO US AND LET US PUT HIM PUT HIM DOWN ON PAPER. AND GET THEM BACK OUT. TO THAT WAY. EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT. AND ALSO HAVING SAID THAT, AS YOU COME UP WITH MORE IDEAS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WORK SESSION, EMAIL TRAY, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THOSE IDEAS ON PAPER, TOO. OKAY JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY, OUR NEXT WORK SESSION AND REGULAR MEETING OR ON THE SAME DAY. OH YEAH, I MESSED THAT UP LAST AND MY CORRECTION NEEDED CORRECTED. YES SEPTEMBER SO WE WILL RECONVENE AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 5TH FOR A WORK SESSION AND REGULAR MEETING. OKAY. YEAH. SO. DELIBERATION JUST WENT FROM THIS MIGHT OKAY. HAVING SAID THAT WE CAN EXTEND THIS OUT TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED THE FIRST TIME THE COMMITTEE MET WAS ON SEPTEMBER THE 18TH. AND SO WE HAVE TIME.UM AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE LAST TIME THEY HAD 42 PROPOSITIONS TO DISCUSS I DON'T FORESEE THIS HAVING ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER UNLESS YOU ALL REALLY SURPRISED ME THIS TIME. UM UM, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE BEFORE. YOU HAVE SURPRISED ME BEFORE, SO I GUESS IT COULD HAPPEN, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO 42. I'M NOT GOING TO ESTIMATE BECAUSE I COULD BE WAY OFF ON THAT IF I ESTIMATE BUT I SUSPECT THAT AND LAST TIME WITH 42 PROPOSITIONS OF THE CHARTER COMMITTEE MET ABOUT NINE TIMES TOTAL BETWEEN SEPTEMBER THE 18TH AND JANUARY THE FOURTH, WHICH WAS THEIR LAST MEETING, AND THEY ONLY MET ONCE IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. AND MOST OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE BETWEEN OCTOBER THE 18TH AND NOVEMBER THE 23RD. AND SO MOST OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE COMPACTED INTO A FIVE WEEK PERIOD. UM AND SO I ANTICIPATE THAT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AGAIN WOULD NOT NEED TO MEET. UM, UM, BUT MAYBE SEVEN OR EIGHT TIMES 678 TIMES AND THEN GET BACK WITH YOU ALL AND THEN Y'ALL WILL HAVE THEIR FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS BACK EARLY JANUARY, MAYBE EVEN LATE DECEMBER. AND Y'ALL CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF THAT POINT DEBATING AT THE PROPOSITIONS THEMSELVES. RIGHT AND. I SEEM TO RECALL SOME OF SOME OF THAT WAS JUST SOME CLEANUP LANGUAGE THAT THAT THAT MADE UP THE BULK OF THOSE. THOSE ITEMS WERE JUST SOME CLEANUP CLARIFICATION KIND OF LANGUAGE. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SO IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WEREN'T SUBSTANTIVE, HUGE, DEBATABLE ISSUES. THEY WERE JUST SORT OF GENERIC. I HATE TO USE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO GENERAL NEUTRAL LANGUAGE. THAT WAS A LOT OF CHANGES IN THERE, CAUSE A LOT OF REFERENCES TO HIM AND HIS AND SO RIGHT, CLARIFY THAT AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AND I SEEM MAYBE TO RECALL THE CHARTER REVIEW PRIOR TO THAT. WE HAD SOME STATE LAW CHANGES OF THINGS WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS. DO YOU SEE ANY OF THAT COMING THROUGH ON THIS ROUND? OKAY, OKAY, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS. TWO REVIEWS AGO, I THINK IS WHEN THAT HIT, SO OKAY, WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AH, I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR. IF YOU'VE GOT ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING BRING FORTH FOR CONSIDERATION. NOW IS THE TIME BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE LAST TIME. WE WILL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM ONE. WELL JUST GO THROUGH MY LIST HERE. ARTICLE THREE. THE COUNCIL ITEM. LET'S SEE. SECTION FOUR. IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT WE NEED TO NOMINATE A DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO JUST SAYS THE COUNCIL. WE'LL SELECT SOMEONE IN CASE THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM. ARE ABSENT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN THE COUNCIL SELECT SOMEONE.
THAT'S ONE ITEM MIGHT I NOTICED THERE? UM. GOING FURTHER IN THE ARTICLE. SOME CLEANUP ITEMS. ARTICLE NINE POWERS VESTED IN COUNCIL, IT'S IS SECTION ONE ITEM J. IT READS TO OPEN WIDE, EXTEND OR STRAIGHTEN PUBLIC STREETS THROUGH REFERS IN ALLEYS ALWAYS LIKE THAT ONE. I DO TO PUT A CURVE IN IT. OF COURSE WE WANT. WE WANT STRAIGHT STREETS. YEAH I'M HAPPY AS AN ENGINEER.
JUST MAKE IT ALL A GRID LIKE COLSA OR SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS STUFF THAT WAS KIND OF A FUNNY ONE. MAYBE THAT'S AN ITEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST WAS A LITTLE PARTICULAR PECULIAR TO ME. CONTINUING ON SECTION. 11. PLANNING ZONING AND HOUSING. THERE'S A FEW ITEMS IN THEIR SECTION FOUR ZONING REGULATIONS SHOULD BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONFIDENCE OF PLAN AND DESIGNED TO AND IT GIVES A LIST OF THINGS THAT ZONING IS INTENDED TO DO. I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT AND ALL OF OUR ZONING CASES AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE SHOULD WHAT SHOULD APPLY TO THAT SECTION, SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PART TO LOOK AT. UM NEXT SECTION. UNDER THAT SAME ARTICLE, SECTION FIVE BUILDING PERMITS AND OCCUPANCY
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PERMITS. WE HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE. I WONDER IF THAT DEFINITION INCLUDES PARKING LOTS AND OTHER KINDS OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT UH, BUILDINGS NECESSARILY. AND ARTICLE 11 SECTION EIGHT. THIS ONE. IT TALKS ABOUT PLAN COMMISSION AND WHAT THEY DECIDE ON AND JUST LOOKING AT THEATER CHARGE THEIR CITY. THERE'S REGULATIONS THEY CAN HOLD LIST OF THOSE WOULD BE GOOD TO REVIEW THOSE AND. LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ONES I HAD HERE. I AM. AND PROBABLY THE SAME THING WITH THE SAME SECTION ARTICLE 11 SECTION EIGHT. YEAH I THINK I THINK I MENTIONED THAT ONE ALREADY. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU, MA'AM. VERY GOOD AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TIM THING HAS LONG BEEN DISCUSSED. OVER AND OVER. YEAH, WOULD NOT BE A FIRST. ALL RIGHT. KATHERINE WILLIAMS. MY COLLEAGUE TO MY LEFT HAVE BEAT ME AND MY MARRIAGE. OKAY, I'LL GO RIGHT ON. OKAY I'LL GO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY AND MARILYN ASKED THIS QUESTION, MR. HERE. OKAY? AT THE END OF THIS WELL WILL THE COUNCIL WILL WE GET A, UH, SUMMATION OF EVERYBODY'S IDEAS? WE FELT THAT THAT ARE SHARED WITH YOU TONIGHT. I THINK WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, UM STARTING WITH ARTICLE TWO. I'D LIKE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO ITS ARTICLE TWO, SECTION ONE A.NUMBER OF TERMS. COUNCIL DISTRICTS, ETCETERA. AH LIKE FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH THEY THE CURRENT LIMIT THE CURRENT TERM LIMITS. AND GIVE CONSIDERATION TO AH! REVISING THOSE TERM LIMITS. AH! UM. NOT THE NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT THE INITIAL LIMIT FROM TWO YEARS TO THREE YEARS. WITH A MAXIMUM OF SIX YEARS. CERTAINLY IN COUNCIL EXTENDING THE TERMS BUT NOT THE NUMBER OF TERMS THE NUMBER OF TERMS IN THE TERMS FROM 2 TO 3 YEARS AND RETAINING THE SIX YEAR MAX. AND I'VE GOT SOME OTHER LANGUAGE AND HERE IS WHY I'M RECOMMENDING THIS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO ALL OF THAT. AH! THE NEXT ONE IS, UM. ARTICLE THREE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL. HOW WAITING PERIOD FOR INTERIM COUNCIL APPOINTED MEMBERS. AND LET ME CLARIFY THAT WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD X AND HALF OF THEM WERE WE LOST A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COUNCIL APPOINTED SOMEONE AS AN INTERIM COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, WHEN THEY FINISH THAT IN MY TURN. OUR CURRENT CHARTER TO HOW LONG THEY HAD TO SIT OUT BEFORE THEY BECAME ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR ANOTHER FOR A COUNCIL SEAT, IF THEY SO CHOOSE CHOSE TO DO THAT. AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT AT AT AT THAT LANGUAGE IS CURRENTLY STATED STATED. AND LOOK AT. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER POLICE LOOKING AT THAT AND ITS IMPACT. ON UM COUNCIL. NO PUBLIC POLICY MAKING IN THIS CITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT PERSON HAS TO WAIT A FULL TERM BEFORE HE OR SHE IS EVEN ELIGIBLE. BUT IF THAT PERSON IS HAS SERVED FOR A FULL YEAR, AND WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN THEN.
THERE. YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T JOIN THE RACE, AND I THINK WE HAVE STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS REMOVING THAT LIMIT TO WHERE THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY RUN OR WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE REDUCE THE WAITING PERIOD FROM THE CURRENT RIGHT NOW IT'S TWO YEARS. BECAUSE THE TERMS THAT WE REDUCE THAT OKAY, AT LEAST BY YEAR. RIGHT NOW, THAT PERSON HAS TO WAIT A FLORAL FOR COUNCIL TERM BEFORE THEY'RE ELIGIBLE AGAIN. AND I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE THAT WE REDUCE THAT WAITING PERIOD. AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S EFFECTIVELY JUST SO YOU KNOW, REMOVING THE WAITING PERIOD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE EITHER ZERO OR TWO TO YEAH, THAT WE WOULD 02 RIGHT. EFFECTIVELY. ONLY AS A N ATTORNEY WAS SAID WE DO WE REMOVE THAT WAITING PERIOD. OKAY
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I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS FROM DOING FROM FROM THAT. AH! NEXT ONE IS, UM ARTICLE. FOUR IT. TALKS ABOUT POWERS VESTED IN COUNCIL. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS LANGUAGE MEANS, IT SAYS. COUNCIL MAY NOT INTERFERE WITH THE APPOINTMENT. SHALL NOT GIVE ORDERS TO HIS SUBORDINATES. WE COUNTER COMMEDIA. READ OVER THAT AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT NIGHT WHAT THAT MEANS. WHAT IT SAYS. TAKE ALEXA MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I THINK WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THAT MEANS. THE APPOINTMENTS EMPLOYEES SECTION EMPLOYEE SECTION IS THIS POWERS VESTED IN COUNCIL. AND IT STARTED WITH COUNCIL SHALL NOT RIGHT? SO THAT'S THAT KIND OF, I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY GOES ALONG WITH WITHOUT HAVING THE LANGUAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. IT GOES ALONG WITH, UM, BEING A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? THE IDEA THERE. I THINK THAT'S THE SECTION THAT THAT'S ADDRESSING THAT. UM UM COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT INFLUENCE OVER AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? BUT WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF THAT? DOES IT MEAN THAT THAT IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A REQUEST IS THAT QUOTE AN ASSIGNMENT? IS IT A TASK? BUT LIKE, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT THAT SHALL NOT MEAN. THAT'S WARS. COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED, SO EVERYBODY HAS SOME CLARITY ON THAT. AND MY LAST LAST NEXT TO LAST ONE. IT'S GOT ARTICLE.FIVE. UM DETERMINED SALARY. IT'S A CITY MANAGER. I RECOMMEND THAT WE REVIEW RIGHT NOW IT'S A MAXIMUM THREE YEARS THE CONTRACTS OF THREE YEARS. AH I'M NOT SETTLING AT A NUMBER, BUT I'M RECOMMENDED THAT WE REVIEW THAT. UH, UH, FOR POSSIBLE REVISIONS OR EXTENSIONS. BEYOND THE THREE YEAR PERIOD FOR INITIAL CONTRACTING FOR A CITY MANAGERS. AND AGONY. ELABORATE ON THAT THAT LATER BUT I THINK I THINK THREE YEARS IS RELATIVELY SHORT TERM. UM, MY NEXT ONE. THE WHOLE SECTION ON AMENDMENTS AND SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETS. AND THAT. AND SHE WAS A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE IN THAT THAT MEANS I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON CHANGING AND UH, DR MAYOR PRO TEM THAT SECTION 11 OF PLANNING, ZONING AND HOUSING. I AGREE WITH HIM. I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT. THAT CLEAN THAT SECTION UP. AND YOU'VE ALREADY STATED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AH, ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE IN ACCORDING TO STATE LAW. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID IN THE CITY JOURNEY? OKAY, BUT THAT WHOLE SECTION THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN THERE. AH AND IT GOES ON AND ON. IT'S KIND OF WHAT I CALL RUN ON LANGUAGE, NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS. SO AS AS MEMBER ATTEMPTS THAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO SEE IF WE CAN CLEAN THAT LANGUAGE UP SOMETHING ALL RIGHT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. BECAUSE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MORE THANK YOU. I HAVE NOT REALLY HAD OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATED WITH THE NUMBER IS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF TYPHON CALL IT STIPEND. BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SALARY. BUT THE AMOUNT OF. FUNDING THAT HAS RECEIVED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I HAD NOT TALKED TO MIRROR BUT INCLUDE HIM IN IT. I FEEL GRACIOUS OF YOU.
THANK YOU, UH, I'LL SAY THAT BECAUSE WITH THE EVER INCREASING WORKLOAD THAT APPEARS TO BE PLACED ON COUNCIL. AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO FOR THE CITY. PART TIME WORK FOR FULL TIME FULL TIME WORK FOR PART TIME. NOT PART TIME. FULL TIME WORK, I BELIEVE COULD MERIT. AT LEAST SOME MORE OF US TYPHON. I'M NOT SUGGESTING AT ALL ANYTHING LIKE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, BUT I AM SUGGESTING THAT PERSON BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SERVE AND DO THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND DO THIS JOB. AND RECEIVE AT LEAST SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK TO OTHER JOBS WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT. SO I'D LIKE FOR THE COMMUNITY TRULY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND UM, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. BUT IF I WERE TO THROW OUT ONE, I'D SAY AT LEAST 25,000. NOW WHY DO I SAY THAT? I SAY THAT BECAUSE AS WE CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD. AND I KNOW I'M PROBABLY BEING LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW. LIKE THIS IS A
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VOLUNTEER POSITION. AND WE THIS IS A SERVICE LEADERS, SERVANT LEADERSHIP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND YES, IT IS. IT TRULY IS OKAY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING IN PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK AND CONTINUE TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY AND COMPETE WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES. I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN AT LEAST COME IN HERE AND THIS IS A VERY GOOD BEGINNING IF THEY WANT POLITICS TO BE PART OF THEIR LIVELIHOOD, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS A VERY GOOD POSITION TO CANYON AND START THAT LEARNING PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL GO ABOUT LOOKING AT THAT OR WHAT IT WILL ENTAIL, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TAKE A REVIEW OF THAT. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. VERY GOOD. AS THE THIRD LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEE IN THIS ORGANIZATION, YOU ARE COLLECTIVELY ARE THE SECOND LOWEST PAID LOWEST PAID BEING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBERS AT ZERO SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME. COUNCIL MEMBER ROD. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. UM WELL, BOTH OF MY ITEMS THAT I HAVE ARE PLANNING AND ZONING RELATED, UM, HAVING SERVED FOR 13 WELL, ALMOST 13 YEARS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M THINKING OF ONE OF THOSE IS AND SECTION THAT'S ARTICLE. 11 SECTION ONE, THE. WHAT'S REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADD LOOK AT ADDING A DELAY FOR SOMEBODY COMING FROM COUNCIL. AND GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'VE HAD THAT HAS BECOME A TREND. AND . THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND CODIFY THAT AND MAKE IT WHERE WE DON'T WE PUT A DELAY OF MAYBE A YEAR. AND IT OR TO WHATEVER THE NUMBER HAS TO BE, BUT WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH, I WOULD I WANT TO LOOK AND HAVE THEM LOOK INTO THAT SECOND ONE IS STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP REEVALUATE THE ADVISORY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY INCREASING THE THRESHOLD OF VOTE THAT'S REQUIRED OVERRIDE THE ADVISING BODY'S DECISION THAT WOULD BE FOR ZONING AND FOR SPECIAL USE PROVISION BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE LARGELY TOOTHLESS BODY. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SERVES ON A TOOTHLESS BODY? IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE GOOD ADVICE AFTER GIVING THEIR BEST TO IT. WE SHOULD HAVE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE THAT. BUT WITH SOMETHING LIKE. UM YOU KNOW, A SIMPLE MAJORITY PLUS ONE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT. BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAD SOUNDS GOOD. COUNCILOR LOOK. NO UM, SO MINUS FROM ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION TWO REMOVAL OF APPOINTED OFFICIALS. UM. I FEEL AS THOUGH THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT APPOINTS SOMEONE TO A BORDER COMMISSION SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE THEM.OKAY THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT WILL HAVE MORE LATER. ALRIGHT SO WE HAVE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH THE QUEUE. AH FOR THE EVENING OR FOR THIS ROUND, I GUESS MAYBE, UH, SO JUST TO CLARIFY AND UP. SORRY IS THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHERS BEFORE WE JUMP AHEAD HERE? UM, OKAY. SO JUST TO BACKTRACK, SO WE ARE PLANNING ON WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON SEPTEMBER 5TH. TO MAKE OUR APPOINTMENTS AND TO ME AND TO GIVE THEM THEIR CHARGE AND SEND THEM ON THEIR WAY. BUT YOU MENTIONED POSSIBLY BACKING THAT UP. TO I DON'T KNOW. WHATEVER I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CALENDAR TO SEE WHAT SO MOVING THAT FROM SEPTEMBER 5TH. TO SEPTEMBER 19TH. THAT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT TUESDAY NIGHT ON THE FIFTH, THIS SCHEDULE IS GONNA BE A LITTLE COMPACTED BECAUSE OF THE REGULAR MEETING AFTERWARDS, SO I THINK WE MIGHT BE BETTER OFF MOVING THAT TO THE 19TH, AND THAT STILL GIVES THEM A GIVES THEM 10 DAYS IN SEPTEMBER TO MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME. OKAY? CANCER LUCK. GO AHEAD. DOES THE DO WE? OR DOES THE COMMITTEE DETERMINE WHEN AND WHAT TIME THEY MEET? LIKE, WHICH DAY AND WHAT TIME WILL DETERMINE SO THEY DETERMINED THAT ON THEIR FIRST MEETING OR OKAY, SELECT A CHAIR VICE CHAIR AND THEY'LL DETERMINE WHAT ITS SCHEDULE THAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. HAVING SAID THAT
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Y'ALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THEM WHEN THEY HAVE TO MEET, BUT THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A WISE DECISION. COUNSELOR WILLIAMS CITY MANAGER TELL ME AGAIN. WHEN DO WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR SELECTIONS? I MEAN OUR APPOINTMENTS. THAT'S RIGHT WORD APPOINTMENTS. THE 19 BY THE 19TH 19 SEPTEMBER 19TH MEETING. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE DATE THAT DAY TRACK RIGHT? SO WE'RE 19. WE'RE PUSHING THAT FROM THE FIFTH TO THE 19TH MEETING ON THE 19TH. WE WILL ANNOUNCE OUR APPOINTMENTS. MAYOR WE'LL GIVE OUR APPOINTMENTS AND THEIR CHARGE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AH! SO YOU CANCEL REMORSE. JUST AS A COUSIN TO THAT QUESTION. WHEN ARE WE MAKING OUR BOND APPOINTMENTS? WHO PROBABLY THAT SAME NIGHT. MY ASSUMPTION. OKAY SO IT WILL ALSO BE ON THE 19TH. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW. I BELIEVE I BELIEVE THAT IS THAT IS THE DATE WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS. OKAY SO THE AGENDA WILL BE FULL OF LOTS OF APPOINTMENTS. SADLY, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WELL YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE HAS SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S GOING TO DO THE WORD SO SURE. UM OKAY, SO FOLKS, I I'VE TALKED TO A FEW OF YOU. I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GETTING THEIR APPOINTEES ALIGNED. UM AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE WILL COME BACK ON THE FIFTH WITH THE LIST WE'VE GIVEN TONIGHT. AND THEN WE CAN IN THE INTERIM. IF YOU HAVE OTHERS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEND THOSE SEND THOSE IN ON THE FIFTH . WE WILL REVIEW THAT LIST ONE MORE TIME. MAKE ADDITIONS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE MOVING FORWARD TO, AND WE WON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN ON THE 18TH WILL DIFFER. SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION ON THE 18TH SO WE SO WE WILL HAVE WILL BE JUST A WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, BASICALLY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT THE LIST RIGHT AND THEN ON THE 18TH PREPARED TO HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT WHAT'S IN AND WHAT'S OUT ON THE 18TH WILL REVIEW THE LIST AS IT HAS BEEN ACCUMULATED. ON THE 19TH. WE MAKE OUR APPOINTMENTS AND GIVE THEM THEIR CHARGE. ALL RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. FIDEL. YEAH. YEAH. TROUBLE NUMBER. THE GUY THAT MOVES ASIDE TO ITEM FOUR C.
[4.c. Continue department presentations and Council discussions on the 2023-24 Proposed Budget]
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS AND COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS ON THE 23 24 PROPOSED BUDGET TONIGHT. WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FROM THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK EVERYBODY GOT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN HANDOUTS FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS MY BUDGET ANALYSTS SAVANNAH MARTIN. I CAN PROMISE YOU WHEN YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BETWEEN ME AND SAVANNAH, SAVANNAH WILL HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS WILL NOT BE ME.I THINK WE WERE ALREADY CLEAR ON THAT. BUT I THINK YOU KNEW IT TOO. JUST TO BE CLEAR. ALRIGHT SO I'LL START WITH OUR NARCOTICS SEIZURE FUND REQUESTS. AND AS A REMINDER OF THE LAW REQUIRES ME TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL TO REQUEST MONEY TO SPEND OUT OF THE SEIZURE FUNDING. OUR ANNUAL ONGOING EXPENDITURES INCLUDE AMMUNITION SUPPLEMENT AH, UH 35,000 ARE COURT FEES AND MATCHING COST, WHICH IS THE FEES THAT WE PAY BACK TO THE COURTS. 40,000 AND THEN THE BUY MONEY FOR NARCOTICS IS 25,000. THAT'S OUR ANNUAL ONGOING EXPENDITURES EXPENDITURES COMING OUT OF THE SEIZURE BUDGET. THE ONE TIME EXPENDITURES FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR IS 30,000 FOR SWAT BALLISTIC SHIELDS. AS A REMINDER . WE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR A GRANT. DEFINE BALLISTIC SHIELDS IN THE SCHOOLS AND THAT IS IN THE PROCESS NOW, AND WE ARE ORDERING THOSE SHIELDS. THIS IS NOT THAT THESE ARE SHIELDS FOR THE SWAT TEAM TO DEPLOY AS NEEDED. AND THEN THE SWAT RIFLE REPLACEMENT. WHICH IS , UH, EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, REPLACING ALL THE SWAT RIFLES.
THOSE GUYS SHOOT A LOT. THEIR GUNS WEAR OUT, SO WE'RE PLACING THE RIFLES. THE GPS TRACKING SYSTEM FIVE YEARS. WE ARE GOING TO TEST A SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S CALLED STAR CHASE. AND IT WAS DEVELOPED TO REDUCE PURSUITS MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THE ISSUES WE HAD AT THE TIME WERE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT DURING THE PURSUIT. IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS OR WITH THE FLOCK SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. NOW IF CITY AND STOLEN VEHICLE, WE KNOW
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IT. AND WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, AND WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING. AND SO IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO TAG THAT VEHICLE, OUR HOPE IS BEFORE PURSUIT STARTS, WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PURSUITS MAKE IT SAFER FOR OUR OFFICERS MAKE IT SAFER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND STILL RECOVER THAT STOLEN VEHICLES. SO WE'RE GONNA TEST THIS PROGRAM. UH, IN A ALONG WITH THE FLOCK SYSTEM.AND THAT'S $85,000. AND THAT'S FOR FIVE YEARS. AND THEN THE MASS CASUALLY TRAUMA MEDICAL KITS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MEDICAL KITS AND ALL OF OUR POLICE VEHICLES. WE'RE GOING TO UH, PUT HUGE MASS TRAUMA MEDICAL KIDS WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY HOW THOSE KITS ARE USED BY POLICE OFFICERS. NOT JUST ALL FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT ALSO POLICE OFFICERS. SO WE'RE GOING TO EQUIP AND TRAIN ARE POLICE OFFICERS ON DEALING WITH MASS CASUALLY TRAUMA EVENTS. SO THAT IS OUR SEIZURE FUNDING REQUEST PAUSE. A SECOND. I HAVE NOBODY IN THE CUBE, OKAY? SO THAT'S EASY. OUR GENERAL FUNDING REQUEST. AH ONE IS 120,000 FOR INFLATION COST. AND THAT'S REALLY TO COVER TWO THINGS. FOOD AND CLOTHES. AH OUR OUR BILL FOR OUR DETAINEES FOR OUR JAIL HAS. JUST GONE OFF THE CHARTS SINCE THE PANDEMIC. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEFUND THE FOOD FOR THE TECH DETAINEES AND THEN ALSO OUR UNIFORMS AND EQUIPMENT. UM THE CONTRACTS, OUR STEADILY INCREASING JUST LIKE ALL CLOTHING GOLFS. AND THEN FINALLY, OUR LANDSCAPING OUR COST TO PAY OUR LANDSCAPERS TO KNOW AND CUT THE GRASS. SO THAT'S THAT 120,000. ARE NON CI P ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. THESE ARE THE EXPENSES WHEN WE PUT OUR AH , SEE I P PROJECTS ARE MUNITIONS FACILITY AND OUR RANGE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETED NEXT YEAR. IT'S JUST THE START UP COSTS WITH THOSE TWO IS A $10,000.01 TIME EXPENSE. AND THEN TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OVER TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IN THE CITY IN ANY CITY IS TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, AND I'VE I THINK COUNCIL WOULD AGREE WITH ME. I'M HEARING MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC THAN I'VE EVER HEARD COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. AND IT'S SPEEDING . IT'S UH, STOP SIGNS, AND EVERY TIME I GET A COMPLAINT, WE PUT THAT ON A LIST AND WE SEND OFFICERS TO CONDUCT AND TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AT THAT LOCATION. AND THEY'RE USUALLY THERE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AND THEY'LL REEVALUATE AND THEN WE MAY KEEP THEM ON THE LIST, BUT WE SENT OFFICERS TO EVERY SINGLE COMPLAINT THAT PULLS A LOT OF OFFICERS FROM OUR TRAFFIC UNIT. UM FROM OTHER DUTIES SUCH AS, UH, SCHOOL ZONE ENFORCEMENT OR HIGHWAY ENFORCEMENT OR RACING ENFORCEMENT. AND SO THIS IS TO HIRE OFFICERS OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY WHILE WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE SHORTAGES. JUST TO DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT PILOT PROGRAM IS. AND THAT'S $100,000. SO THERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE REQUESTS. I'LL MENTION TOO. I KNOW THIS IS A VERY SHORT BRIEF PRESENTATION, AND I'M USUALLY I'M USUALLY ONE OF THE LONGEST PRESENTATIONS. BUT. BUT I THINK WE KNOW WHY IT'S BECAUSE ALL MY REQUEST GO INTO MARKET ADJUSTMENTS AND COMPENSATION. UM I'VE BEEN CHIEF FOR FIVE YEARS. THIS LABOR SHORTAGE AND TRYING TO HIRE POLICE OFFICERS IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE I'VE FACED YET. AND I WANT US TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKETPLACE, AND I KNOW WE ARE A MODEST CITY AND I TELL MY STAFF THIS ALL THE TIME. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE NEW HIGHEST PAID POLICE DEPARTMENT. FOR ETERNITY. I JUST WANT TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE. TO REDUCE THOSE 35 OR SO OPENINGS THAT WE HAVE AND, UM, FILL THOSE POSITIONS AND THEN I THINK I THINK WE THEN ARE THE MARKET ONCE I GET THEM HERE THEY STAY. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THEM HERE, THEY GET TO SEE WHAT THE CITY IS ABOUT. THEY GET TO SEE WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ABOUT, AND THEY BECOME A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT RIGHT NOW, JUST LIKE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, IT'S DIFFICULT ATTRACTING GOOD OFFICERS AND ATTRACTING THOSE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE NEED. SO THAT'S WHERE ALL MY EGGS ARE IN. SO WHEN YOU BUT I'LL MOVE TO QUESTIONS VERY GOOD. CUSTOMER, WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MARY. CHIEF. I WAS NOT GONNA I WAS NOT GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION. BUT
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BEFORE YOU, YOU, YOU YOU TALKED ME INTO IT, THEN. UH I'M ASKING YOUR OPINION AND KNOW THAT THE LAST STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT RECRUITMENT RETENTION. BUILDING OUT OUR STAFF. UH THAT'S THAT'S A PRIORITY. AND WE KNOW THIS. BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER LATER. BUT WE ALSO AS FOREST RESOURCES AND MANPOWER AND THINGS. AH THERE'S BEEN EVERY SINGLE THERE WAS SOME LEGISLATION HB THREE. HOW PUT ON SOME SECURITY DEMANDS ON OUR ON OUR SCHOOLS. BUT THEY DIDN'T SEND A CHECK WITH IT. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. AH, AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS CHIEF JUST OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD IF YOU CARRY IN CITIES. DO YOU FORESEE ANY IMPACT? AND I KNOW IT WAS STILL IN THE FORMATIVE STAGE AND DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA LAND. BUT DO YOU SEE AN IMPOSSIBLE IMPACTS ON. YOUR TEAM . YOUR RESOURCE IS AS AS THAT PIECE STARTS TO COME TOGETHER AND HOW YOUR TEAM IS USED AS A PART OF THAT. THAT PACKAGE AND JUST ACTUALLY FOR ANY GENERAL INITIAL IMPRESSIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE CHEAP. SPEAK DOWN THERE. SURE AND LET ME I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH GSD. SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS FIRST, SO THEY DID CALL ME AND ASK CAN WE SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING 36 NEW S, R. O S AND MY ANSWER WAS I WOULD LOVE TO. I WOULD LOVE TO INCREASE OUR SA ROSE BY 36. OFFICERS PUT THEM IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I JUST CANNOT HIRE HIM. IT WOULD TAKE ME A DECADE TO GET THERE AT THIS POINT, SO THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.I JUST DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE. UM SO WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR G. I S D. I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME. THEY ARE LOOKING AT HIRING 40 SECURITY GUARDS. TO PLACE IN THE SCHOOLS NOW THE COST FOR US WE DO. I HAVE OFFERED THEM. SOME SERVICES HAVE OFFERED THEM TO, UM ENSURE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THEY HIRE OR QUALIFIED WITH THE FIREARMS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE. TO DO THIS. WE DO. THEY CAN PAY FOR OUR RANGE INSTRUCTORS THEY CAN PAY FOR THE EXPENSES WILL CHARGE THEM FOR IT. BUT WE WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY PUT OUT THERE ARE QUALIFIED AND FIREARMS. BUT ASIDE FROM THOSE SOFT COST I DON'T SEE ANY IMPACT TO US FINANCIALLY. DOWN THE ROAD . DO WE START DISCUSSING IF OUR STAFFING ISSUES GET RESOLVED? DO THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SA ROSE AND CHANGED THOSE TWO SORROWS THAT MAYBE A DISCUSSION FIVE OR SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE ANY HARD COST ASSOCIATED WITH WITH SENATE BILL THREE. RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
GOOD LUCK. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD EXPAND ON THE GPS TRACKING SYSTEM. WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S REALLY COOL. SO SURE IT'S CALLED STAR CHASE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE WE ACTUALLY TESTED ON HER CHIEF BATES, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND WHAT WE WHAT? WE THAT GUY SITTING IN THE BACK OF I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER HIM, BUT HE WAS CHIEF HERE FOR A LONG TIME. MOST PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT HIM, BUT OH, YEAH. UM BUT IT IS ACTUALLY LAUNCHES A DEVICE. THAT'S A TRACKING DEVICE THAT STICKS TO THE BACK OF A CAR. AND WE WANTED TO USE THIS TO REDUCE OUR PURSUIT BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A LARGE NUMBER OF PURSUITS BACK THEN, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET CLOSE TO THE VEHICLE TO MAKE THAT TAG. WELL NOW WE KNOW THAT THE VEHICLES STOLEN BEFORE WE INITIATE THE RED LIGHTS, THE RED AND BLUE LIGHTS. AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO USE THAT NOW TO REDUCE THE NUMBER. IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT BACK THEN, JUST TO DO IT BEFORE THE PURSUIT INSTEAD OF AFTER THE PURSUIT IS GOING BECAUSE ONCE IT'S GOING IT'S HIGH SPEEDS. IT'S RED LIGHTS. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THAT CLOSE TO A VEHICLE IF WE CAN DO IT BEFORE THE PURSUIT THAN I THINK IT IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO US. WE CAN THEN BACK OFF TRACK THE VEHICLE AND RECOVER IT. UM BUT WE'RE GOING TO TEST IT. WE'RE GOING TO TEST THIS THEORY AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND THEN WE'RE HOPING IT IT REDUCES PURSUITS. THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. HE HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS BACK IN THE DAY. ALRIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON FOR POLICE? THANK YOU. AS ALWAYS, SAVANNAH. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. SHE'S READY.
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EVERY WE KNOW WHO PUTS ALL THIS TOGETHER, SO. AND SO AT THIS POINT, OBVIOUSLY, WE MET. WE HAD GREAT MEETINGS ON SATURDAY. UM AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S HAD WE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND CONTINUANCES FROM THAT MEETING. NOW EVERYBODY'S HAD 48 ISH HOURS TO DIGEST. UH SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM SATURDAY SO WE CAN TAKE THAT UP TONIGHT. I BELIEVE MR REX HAS AN UPDATE ON GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS WE AS WE MOVE ON FROM SORT OF THE INITIAL INFORMATION DUMP WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE GIVEN THEIR PRESENTATIONS SOME Q AND A'S HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH. UM IT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST AS YOU START TO COALESCE AROUND DIRECTION OR IDEAS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE BUDGET. UH WE REALLY DO WHAT WE DO AND ALL WORK SESSIONS AND JUST KIND OF GIVE CONSENT OR A THUMBS UP ON THE DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT COME UP, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PITCH THAT OUT THERE AGAIN LIKE THAT ENABLES US TO GET CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AND GO BACK. UM AND EITHER RESEARCH THINGS AND BRING OPTIONS BACK TO YOU, OR JUST MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET, WHICH WE WILL PREPARE FOR ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 5TH AND AS YOU VET THOSE IDEAS AND DIRECTION EVENTUALLY IT COMES IN AND IS INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET FORMALLY WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 5TH AND SO AGAIN JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL TO GIVE US A CLEAR DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD, SO WE WERE STARTING TO GET MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS AND OUR VETTING THOSE OUT AND WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ON ON SATURDAY AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, SO UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'LL PICK UP TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATIONS FOR POLICE WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE IN YOUR BOX DROPBOX FOLLOWING THIS MEETING AS WELL AS THESE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTIONS FROM SATURDAY AND QUESTIONS RECEIVE SENSE. WE HOPE TO GET THOSE OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THIS WEEK BACK TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION. WE'LL BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION WITH SOME FOLLOW UP ON THE STORM WATER UTILITY, RIGHT? I BELIEVE THIS WAS REQUESTED TO COME BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO AGAIN FOR SEVERAL YEARS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING THE STORMWATER RATE TO ASSIST WITH DRAINAGE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND SO HERE'S A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE PRESENTED ON SATURDAY OF WHY WE WOULD USE IT AND JUST TO REITERATE WERE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FUND THE EQUIPMENT THAT COMES OUT OF OUR STORM WATER RIGHT AND THEN ALSO TO DEVELOP A RESERVE POLICY FOR OUR RATING AGENCIES. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE UTILIZING ABOUT A 30 DAY FUND BALANCE REQUIRED. AND AS OUR ASSUMPTION AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF COUNCIL IS DO WE WANT TO PUSH THIS RATE? TO GET UP TO THE METROPLEX AVERAGE. DO WE WANT TO DO THAT INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME, OR DO WE WANT TO DO THAT IN CHUNKS OF TIME TO MAYBE MATCH UP WITH THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE IN, UH , THAT STUDY RIGHT NOW AND ARE NOT PLANNED AT THE MOMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO, YES. SO YES. IS THE ANSWER? YES. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON THIS MORE SPECIFIC. YEAH AND SO LAST TIME WE JUST PUT TOGETHER THIS MATRIX TO SHOW IN GENERAL WHATEVER RATE THE RATE INCREASE FROM 50 CENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO $2.85, WHICH IS THE CURRENT METROPLEX AVERAGE WOULD GENERATE IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO THE METROPLEX AVERAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AROUND $47.5 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE C I P SO NEW TO THIS AS WE WANTED TO SHOW OF VISUAL ON HOW YOU COULD STAGGER THIS. THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES. WE COULD DO WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES, OF COURSE, BUT THE FIRST ONE IS WE START RATE INCREASES IN 24 25, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN A DOLLAR AND 24 25, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING IT IMMEDIATELY. WE WOULD NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF CATCH UP IN 24 25 TO ENSURE OVER THIS FOUR YEAR STAGGERED TIME THAT WE WEAK AND FUND THIS AND BE AT THE METROPLEX AVERAGE. THE SECOND OPTION IS IF YOU WANTED TO START IT THIS YEAR, IF YOU DID START IT THIS YEAR. WE USUALLY WHEN WE ISSUED THAT SERVICE THE FIRST[01:00:02]
YEAR THAT DEATH SERVICES THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO WHAT THIS ONE IS DOING IS YOU'RE JUST INCREASING THE RATE AND WE WOULD PUT THAT IN FUND BALANCE. AND THEN AS WE WENT THROUGH THE C I P PROCESS AND WE DISCOVER PROJECTS SUPPLY THAT DEBT SERVICE WILL HIT NEXT YEAR. SO THESE ARE JUST TWO OPTIONS. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SKIN THIS CAT ANYWAY, SO I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP TO FOR COUNSEL DISCUSSION. WE'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS. APRIL 10 BASS. THANK YOU. I LIKE THE PRESENTATION. UM AS OPPOSED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, INCREMENTALLY INCREASING IT. I LIKE IT RELATED TO THE PROJECTS BECAUSE, OF COURSE WE NEED THE FUNDING SOURCE. SO UM AND I LIKE OPTION TWO STARTED SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND THEN ALSO, I THINK WILL PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE OF A CUSHION. WHEN WE DO GET STARTED ON THE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. OKAY? AND CONSIDER MORRIS.THANK YOU. I DO ALSO LIKE OPTION TO MY CONCERN, AND I'VE ACTUALLY I'VE HEARD THIS FROM OTHERS TO AFTER THE BUDGET MEETING ON SATURDAY IS IF WE DO THIS INCREMENTAL RATE INCREASE LIKE THIS, I SUSPECT BY 26 27. THE METROPLEX AVERAGE IS NOT GOING TO STILL BE 6 44. IN FACT, I SUSPECT BY 25 26. IT WON'T BE. SO, UM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KIND OF KEEP. DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO REMAIN AT THE METROPLEX AVERAGE OR CLOSE TO IT. OKAY AS WE GO AND SO THIS MAY BE, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTING IT EVERY YEAR TO KEEP, UH HE TRYING TO MATCH HER ALMOST MATCH. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US, STAYING JUST BELOW AN AVERAGE ON FEES AND RATES, BUT I WE KEEP WE KEEP KEEPING NO INCREASES. TOO LONG. AND THEN HAVING TOO MUCH TO CATCH UP. SO OUT OF THESE OPTIONS, I LIKE OPTION TWO. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO STAY OPEN TO THE FACT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED MORE THAN 85 CENTS. BY THE TIME WE GET TO 25, AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AT ZERO AND 26 27 THANK YOU. BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT. WELL I LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING DIRECTLY TO THE METROPLEX AVERAGE. BECAUSE FOR EXACTLY I COUNSEL. COUNCILMAN UM MORRIS'S FOR YOUR IDEAS. I KNOW.
IT'S UM, THAT. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE, NO MATTER WHAT INFLATION IS GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. THIS IS A WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS A LOT OF NEED, AND I SAY WE GO DIRECTLY STRAIGHT TO THE AVERAGE. OKAY? THANK YOU. UH, COUNCILOR HEDRICK. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. CAN YOU GO BACK? ONE SLIDE, PLEASE? QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS WE'RE INCREASING THE RATE. LEONARD LITERALLY. WHY IS NOT THE REVENUE SIMILARLY, LITERALLY IN STEPPED UP INCREASE? 50 CENTS. IF YOU DOUBLE THAT IT SHOULD BE 700,000 SOMETHING. IT HAS TO PROBABLY BE AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY LOOKS. YOU GO 50 YOU KNOW 5 10. IF YOU GO, BUCK 50 SHOULD BE 15. I WOULD THINK I WOULD EXPECT. TAKE A LOOK. REGARDLESS, I'M FOR UM. YEAH OPTION TO MAYBE EVEN A BUCK 50 TO BEGIN WITH, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD MEET YOUR FUND BALANCE OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN GIVE YOU AN EXTRA 1 MILLION OVER THAT. SO YOU'D HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS THAT FIRST YEAR TO DO SOMETHING WITH HIS CONDUCT A STUDY UM, I'M ALSO AND THIS IS AN ITEM MAMA TO REQUEST WHEN WE GET TO OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS TO LOOK AT OUR STORMWATER FEES AND HOW THEY'RE CALCULATED. SIMILAR OTHER CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN THAT CHARGE DIFFERENT RATES BASED UPON IMPERVIOUS AREA WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE UH, RAIN BARREL RAIN GARDEN. YOU'RE KEEPING THIS ON YOUR OWN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL BE REQUESTING LATER. BUT I'M FOR A DOLLAR 50 FOR SO I COULD BE CLOSER TO THE OPTION TWO BUT A LITTLE HIGHER INITIALLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY? THANK YOU, SIR. IS THAT IT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, JOE. CANCER LOOK AND I WAS GONNA SAY $2. RIGHT SO $2.02 DOLLARS, AND THEN YOU COULD DROP IT DOWN TO 50 CENTS, OR 60 75 CENTS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE THAT 6 44 INITIALLY QUICKER. AND. HMM NEVER PUT A ZERO THERE. UM
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SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT NUMBER SHOULD ALWAYS I MEAN, IT'S SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF CENTS EVERY YEAR, THE RESIDENTS WON'T FEEL HIT LIKE THEY WILL IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS. UM LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE VERY SMALL IN CRIMINAL ADJUSTMENT. UM, BEFORE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO JUST JUST FOR MY NOTES HERE. YOU'RE AN OPTION, TOO. BUT STARTING THAT $2 VERSUS. DOLLAR 50 THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED. THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE DOLLAR 50. I'M THAT'S A OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THANK YOU. HAVE YOU SIGNED ANYTHING? WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STORY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HEDRICK. I'M ON THE BOOK 50 SALES RACK. I CAN'T. I CAN'T MOVE OVER TO THIS PART OF STORY, BUT I'LL JOURNAL ONE DAY. UM BUT I LIKE STARTING AT THE BOOK AT THE BUCK 50. AND UH, WHAT I'M HEARING MET, BUT IF WE DO THAT, AND THEN INCREASE IT INCREMENTALLY. I'M I'M NOT YEAH , SO EXCITED ABOUT WHAT I WAS DOING WAS LIKE AVERAGES AVERAGES. BECAUSE DIFFERENT FOLKS COMPUTER AVERAGES ARRIVING AVERAGES DIFFERENT WAY. AM I CORRECT, MATT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO UNLESS YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS OUT THERE. AVERAGES CAN. AVERAGES CAN HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS CORRECT. THEY CAN AND FEES CANNOT BE APPLES TO APPLES. AND OKAY, SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN AMBER SO MUCH. WHEN I HEAR WE'LL KEEP UP WITH METROPLEX AND NATURAL BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT THE SAME. BUT BUT THE ODD SHOP WITH THE BOOK 50. AND WE MOVED INCREMENTALLY AND MATT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO? AS FOR AS AS PROJECTS PROJECT PROJECTIONS. THAT WAS KIND OF THINGS THAT SAY IF WE STARTED STARTED WITH THAT BUG 50 BASE AND MOVED IT OUT. INCREMENTALLY IF WE IF WE HAD 50 CENTS TO IT OR OR DOLLAR, WHAT WOULD THAT DO, MAN? THE BUCK 50 IS ROUGHLY $20 MILLION TO C I P CAPACITY AND THEN IF YOU ADDED ANOTHER 50 CENTS THE NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 5 MILLION. ALRIGHT OKAY AND IF WE IF WE IF WE WANT WITH THE BUCK 50 SO AND YOUR ADVISORY WE WERE TO START WITH A BUCK 50. WOULD BE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE AS FOREST PROJECT. THAT CAPACITY, THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN EUROPEANS, CORRECT? YES. RIGHT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. BECAUSE WE'RE DUTTON. SO I'M GONNA BE THE ONLY NOW AND I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH RIPPING THEM AND IT OFF ALL AT ONE TIME. ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT G PIANOS.UM COSTS GOING DOWN, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY PUT US AT A ZERO SO WE IT WOULD BE A WASH ACROSS THE BOARD. I FEEL LIKE RIPPING THE BAND AID OFF, LETTING EVERYONE IF ANYONE'S GONNA BE MAD, IT'S GOING TO BE ALL AT ONE TIME, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA SPREAD IT OUT OVER FIVE YEARS. RIGHT SO JUST GET IT DONE. KNOCK IT OUT. UM BUT MOST DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THAT. G P AND O UM, GOING DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO BALANCE ITSELF OUT. REGARDLESS SO I FEEL LIKE I WOULD RATHER DO IT NOW, WHILE IT KIND OF EVENS OUT AND THEN IF WE NEED TO DO 50 CENTS, YOU KNOW NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER. THEN IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT GET IT ALL TAKEN CARE OF. AND PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING GOUGED EVERY YEAR. THAT'S IT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH THE Q ON THIS ONE. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY SUPPORT FOR OPTION ONE. SOME REMOVING IT. WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE IMMEDIATE INCREASE TO THE AVERAGE. AND AT THIS POINT I'VE GOT FIVE ON RECORD AT OPTION TWO. AH! BUT STARTING AT 1 50. SO I'M GUESSING THE NATURAL PROGRESSION. IT WOULD BE 1 52 TO 2 TO 85. AND THEN YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE 26 27. AH
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COMES OUT TO OR CONTINUES. I SHOULD SAY THAT COMES OUT TO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. AS AS WELL. SO I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE ON WITH OPTION TWO STARTING AT 1 50. I KNOW THERE'S SOME. MINOR DISAGREEMENTS, BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WOULD BE A UNANIMOUS LET'S MOVE FOR IT. AND I DO AGREE. I, UH BECAUSE THEY WERE DONE IN YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL MADE. UM, THAT THERE IS A REDUCTION AT THE SAME TIME. UM AND YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE ALWAYS STEPPED THINGS UP. UM AND I THINK THAT I THINK THERE'S A GOOD ARGUMENT TO BE HAD THERE, BUT IT'S AIMED TIME. UH, THERE COULD CERTAINLY BE CHANGES IN THE ELECTRIC MARKET AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO UM, BUT I THINK I APPRECIATE THE ARGUMENT, BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OPTION TO STARTING AT THAT RIGHT. WELL, THAT WAS EASY. WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? NO PROBLEM DISAPPOINTED BUSINESS ON THAT, SINCE THIS IS AMENDING THE BUDGET, AS PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU, STAFF WILL WORK TO PREPARE AN UPDATED FUND SUMMARY SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT REVENUE AS WELL AS PROJECTED FUND BALANCES BASED ON THIS PROPOSED FEE INCREASE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE, UH, I THINK A FOLLOW UP ON LANDFILL FEES. VERY GOOD. LET'S DO IT. AND I'LL COME BACK TO GO OVER THE CALENDAR AT THE END. ALWAYS IMPORTANT, NOT GOING TO LET YOU ALL GO WITHOUT MORE TIME. SOMEBODY'S GOT TO MAKE SURE WE SHOW UP ON THE RIGHT DAYS. SURE, BOSS. I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA. DO IT ALL. SORRY DON'T DO THAT TO ME, CHRIS. HMM. OKAY THANKS AGAIN. WELCOME BACK. SO WE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT RELATING TO THE FEARS. UM SPECIFICALLY, WE PROPOSED A NEW GATE RATE. AND THE NEW CONTRACT RATE, AND THE SIMILAR QUESTION FOR BOTH RATES WAS EXPRESSED HIS ARE WE SURE THIS IS? UP AS HIGH AS WE CAN GO, SO WE TOOK A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. AND BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, THOUGH, I WANTED TO ALSO ADDRESSED THE REGION THAT WE LOOK AT BECAUSE WE PRESENTED THIS CHART YESTERDAY WITH 13 OTHER LANDFILLS. AND WHILE ALL OF THOSE LANDFILLS ARE WITHIN THE DFW AREA, WE TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AND WANT TO EXPRESS THAT THERE'S REALLY ONLY A HANDFUL OF THESE. THAT WOULD BE TRUE COMPETITORS TO US. SO WHILE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT ALL THE OTHER LANDFILLS ARE DOING, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT AND PUT OURSELVES IN THE SHOES OF A TRASH HAULER, START TO LOOK AT. WHERE WOULD THEY GO? IF OUR FEES WENT TO HIGH, YOU START TO WEED OUT SOME OF THESE LANDFILLS AS NOT REALLY OPTIONS . IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T SEE IT LIKELY TRASH HAULER WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO DENTON OR TO THE ARLINGTON LANDFILL, FOR EXAMPLE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND THAT LENDS, THEN IT REALLY NARROWS DOWN TO THESE THREE THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE CITY OF DALLAS MCCOMAS BLUFF LANDFILL, THE CITY OF GRAND PERRY'S LANDFILL AND THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT LANDFILL. SO WE TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS CHART, WHICH WE PRESENTED ON ON SATURDAY AND RECON CALCULATED THAT THE AVERAGE OF THE FEES FOR THOSE THREE LANDFILLS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AT THE BOTTOM ALSO HIGHLIGHTED. AND THE AVERAGE PRICE COMES DOWN TO $40.89. AND IN OUR FEE AGAIN IS $42 AND SORT OF REFRAMES WHERE WE SIT IN THAT IN THAT AVERAGE UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE THAT $44. AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE ASKED. OKAY, IS THAT THAT'S GOOD , BUT IS THERE MORE TO GET OUT OF THAT? AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS, YES, A LITTLE BIT. BUT I WANTED TO SORT OF REFRAME THAT REGION PICTURE. FIRST. SO IN TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS SLIDE IS ILLUSTRATING WHAT THOSE OPTIONS WILL LOOK LIKE AND PRESENTING A RANGE OF COSTS HERE BECAUSE WE REALLY NEVER KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY TONS WILL RECEIVE SO THERE'S A LOW END FOR EACH DOLLAR THAT YOU INCREASE THAT RATE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 100 TO $200,000 PER PER DOLLAR INCREASE. UM CONSERVATIVELY THIS YEAR, WE'RE EXPERIENCING A REALLY BIG YEAR. SO THE NUMBERS LOOK DIFFERENT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR AVERAGE ACROSS OUR HISTORICAL AND LOOK AT THE[01:15:03]
AVERAGE OR EVEN THE LOW YEAR. THAT'S WHERE THE LOW END OF THAT RANGE COMES FROM. SO IN THINKING ABOUT THAT. WE WERE COMFORTABLE REVISING THAT FEE FROM 44 UPWARD . ONE MORE DOLLAR TO $45 A TON FOR THE GATE RATE. THE OTHER QUESTION WE TALKED ABOUT ON SATURDAY WAS RELATING TO THE CONTRACT RATE, WHICH, IF YOU RECALL, IT'S CURRENTLY $26 FOR LARGE VOLUME GUARANTEES, AND WE PROPOSED MOVING IT TO $28. THE QUESTION WE WERE ASKED IS WHAT ANOTHER LANDFILLS DOING IT. AND WE LOOKED INTO THAT AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SOME LANDFILLS. THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. UM I DO BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THAT. WE MAY BE THE ONLY NOT THE ONLY, BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW LANDFILLS IN THAT GAME. BUT THE REASON WE DO IT IS BECAUSE WE ATTRACT THESE VERY LARGE CUSTOMERS WHO GUARANTEE US VERY LARGE NUMBERS OF TONS. AS WE SHOWED ON SATURDAY, ABOUT HALF OF THE TONS COME FROM FOR CUSTOMERS. AND WE ENJOY THAT BECAUSE WE OFFER THIS RATE AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR BASELINE REVENUE. WE CAN COUNT ON THAT. WE KNOW THAT'S COMING.AND IF THE MARKET TUMBLES OR CONSTRUCTION TAILS OFF, SOME OF THOSE TONS CAN GO AWAY. BUT THIS BASELINE IS WHAT WE CAN COUNT ON IN OUR REVENUES. THAT'S THE REASON WE DO THAT. AND ALSO THAT'S WHY IT'S SORT OF TRICKY, TOO. IF YOU INCHING UP TOO HIGH , YOU RUN THE RISK OF IF YOU LOSE EVEN ONE OF THOSE CUSTOMERS , IT'S A VERY LARGE IMPACT TO YOUR BOTTOM LINE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEING A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS AND AFTER TALKING IT OVER AND DOING SOME MORE INVESTIGATION, WE FEEL LIKE $28 IS THE UPPER LIMIT OF THAT. UM GIVEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OTHER LANDFILLS DO. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT ON THOSE TWO QUESTIONS ON THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS THAT'S ON THE CONTRACT RATE CONTRACTOR.
I'M SORRY ON THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. WE PROPOSED THE $60 RATE FOR THAT MATERIAL, AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED. OKAY MR MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY, AS WELL, ONE THING THAT WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE BUDGET TEAM AND WITH THE SANITATION PROGRAMS ARE LANDFILL FOLKS. WE DID DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF A FUTURE INCREASES. IT'S NOT JUST BEING A ONE TIME INCREASE THAT ANNUALLY.
WE WILL LOOK AT OUR RATES AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET. AND SO IT'S NOT INCREASES JUST HAPPENING AT AT, UH INDIVIDUAL, UH, TIMES THAT WE DO SPREAD THAT OUT AMONGST THE DIFFERENT YEARS, SO WE'RE MAKING SURE WE ARE COMPETITIVE IN OUR RATES. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. YOU WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY? VERY GOOD TO JUMP AHEAD. BECAUSE CANCER ELECT . YES SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO SEE, UM IN CRIMINAL INCREASES . I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, WITH THE STORM WATER RATE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND ALL THAT. I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE VALUES THAT WE WANT TO UPHOLD. SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T. YOU KNOW, DON'T RUN AWAY WHEN THEY SEE AN INCREASE AND WAITING 5 TO 7 YEARS TO MAKE AN INCREASE IS IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT LONG.
MOST COMPANIES MAKE SOME KIND OF A PERCENTAGE INCREASE ON A YEARLY BASIS. SO UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE SHIFT AND TRY TO GET INTO A MORE, UM LIKE SALES, TAX BASED REVENUE STRUCTURE, UM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE CONTRACTS FEES GO UP AND BECOME MORE OF A THIS IS A CITY OF GARLAND LANDFILL RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THAT WE DO DEPEND ON A LOT OF THE REVENUE FROM THE LANDFILL. SO, UM YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE SHIFTS ARE MADE IN THE FUTURE, UM I THINK IT WOULD BE SMART TO SAVE A LOT OF THAT SPACE AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND SO MUCH ON THE REVENUE FROM THE LANDFILL IN THIS CONTRACT FEES. AND IN COUNCIL MEMBER LOOK, WE DO HAVE RIGHT NOW 2020 THREE'S FEES, AND SO WE HAVE NOT SEEN WITH THE OTHER LANDFILLS ARE GOING TO INCREASE THEIR FEES FOR IT THIS TIME, AND SO WE WILL UTILIZE THEIR NEW BASELINES TO, UM HELP US PICK ANY NEW RATES ARE RECOMMENDING ANY RATES THAT WE BRING FORWARD AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY GOOD. COUNCILOR MORRIS. THANK YOU, SIR. UM CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? WHERE YOU ACTUALLY, UM, THERE WE GO. I APPRECIATE THIS AND YOU LOOKING AT OUR MOST LIKELY COMPETITORS VERSUS THE WHOLE WORLD THAT THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. UM YEAH, I SUPPORT THE $45 A TON GATE RATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD, UM WE HEARD ON SATURDAY THAT IN SOME CASES EMPLOYEES ARE WALKING. BECAUSE OF A DOLLAR 50. HIGHER.
PAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO MAKE SOMEBODY DRIVE THIS WAY. INSTEAD OF THIS WAY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO PRICE OURSELVES OUT
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TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION. IF YOU ARE HAVE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE $45 GATE RATE IS RIGHT SIZED AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S WHERE HE LANDED. AND OKAY, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I AM ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND I KNOW WE HAD LOOKED AT SOME HIGHER NUMBERS, BUT IT WASN'T NARROWED DOWN TWO OR THREE. MOST LIKELY COMPETITORS LIKE YOU'VE DONE NOW. AND I AGREE WITH THE IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING OUR CONTRACT RATE, UM YOU HEDGED YOUR BETS A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT ARE ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH $28 AM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I'D BE I'D BE UNCOMFORTABLE GOING ANY HIGHER. CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, SO AM I, UM AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR DRILLING DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN BRINGING US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO MORE LASER FOCUSED ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. BECAUSE FOR HENDRICK THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR EXACTLY THE REASON THAT COUNSELING, MORRIS SAID. I'M FOR KEEPING THE RATE WHAT YOU HAVE $44. SHE JUST SAID SOMEONE CAN WALK FOR $1. IF WE GO FOR 4 TO 45 HAS $3 INCREASE AT 7% INCREASE OVER WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE KNOW WE HAVE A GOOD THING GOING INCREASE THE $2.YOU'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT FROM THAT ORIGINALLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION ON SATURDAY UM, LANDFILLS ARE GREAT ASSET MONEYMAKER. NOT HATE TO DRIVE ANYONE AWAY RIGHT NOW ON THAT, SO WE JUST DO THAT 5% THAT'S CLOSER TO THE INFLATION AMOUNT. THAT OTHER 12% FOR THE OTHER FEE GOING UP AUTOMATICALLY. SOUNDS FINE WITH THAT CHANGING THAT, UM , BUT I WOULD GO WITH WHAT? YOU ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THAT MY OPINION THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. RIGHT AT THIS POINT. UH, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT RATE AT 28. THERE'S NOT MUCH DISCUSSION ON THAT. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD AT 28. ON THAT, ALL RIGHT? BACK TO THE GATE RATE. UM CAST MEMBER HEDRICK HAS COME IN AT THE 44. I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF OTHER DISCUSSION HEADED THAT DIRECTION. AH! YOU KNOW, IT ALL SEEMS TO BE HEADED TOWARDS THE 45. BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO ENTERTAIN IT. UM IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AT 44? COUNCILOR HEDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AT THE 44. I BELIEVE YES. I BELIEVE THAT PUTS THE REMAINDER OF US THE REMAINING SEVEN. AT 45. YEAH LIKE HANG ON NOW. YOU INCLUDE NOW I GET INCLUDED. THAT PUTS THE REMAINDERS THAT PUT SEVEN OF US AND 45 WERE GOOD. YES, ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH. APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHERE IS THE CAMELOT LANDFILL? EMILY LANDFILL ISN'T A LAND FAR AWAY AS WELL. BECAUSE THE LOCATION I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED CAMELOT, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT'S THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE SLAMMED LEWISVILLE. VERY GOOD.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, MAN, MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S REALLY TAKING A HIT. CASPER WILLIAMS, ARE YOU AND THE Q SIR? YES, SIR. YES SIR . UH BEFORE ALLISON AND MATT COME BACK, I'M GONNA FOR MR CITY MANAGER. WE HAD ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SATURDAY. AH IT'S JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET. BUT PERSONAL MANAGERS THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEE RANGE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. AH! SCHEDULE AND YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE SOME COMMENT TONIGHT ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOUR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL ON THAT FEE RANGE FOR IT WAS A PART OF THE PARKS AND RECS PRESENTATION . AND I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER THE PAGE. BUT CAN YOU CAN YOU COME IN ON THAT BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT, PLEASE? SURE SO PARKS AND REC PRESENTED ON, UH, ESSENTIALLY A BREAKDOWN OF THE CITY SPONSORED SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE HOST EACH YEAR, AND WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE WAS ACTUALLY THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR EACH OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT IS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET, NOT THE TOTAL ON THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT. UH THAT BREAK DOWN, BUT WE CAN, BUT I COULD INVITE UH, ANDY UP HERE TO SPEAK ON IT AS WELL? BECAUSE WE HAVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT PREPARED ON THE SLIDE TONIGHT. YOU HAVE THAT PREPARED TO SEND OUT TO? YES, SIR. SURE SO YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED EXISTING IN THE TOTAL OF THE BUDGET FOR EACH
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OF THE EVENTS? CORRECT RANGE THAT WAS ON YOUR CHART FROM SATURDAY HE HAD A ARRANGE RIGHT ? AND SO EACH OF THE INCREASES REQUESTED FOR EACH EACH EVENT WERE BASED ON A VARIETY OF VARIABLES. THE BIG ONE THAT PERHAPS THROUGH A CURVE BALL WAS RELATED TO THE ASIAN AMERICAN FESTIVAL. IN THE IN THE PAST LAST YEAR, THERE WAS NO BUDGET FOR IT ALLOCATED. WE JUST MADE IT WORK OUT IN THE BOTTOM LINE AND JUST SHIFTED THINGS AROUND AND MADE THE BOTTOM LINE WORK KNOWING THAT THAT'S A ONE TIME THING SO GOING FORWARD WE BUDGETED 50,000. WHICH MAKES THAT EVENT COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT WE THINK IS A SIMILAR SIZE SIMILAR SCOPE. SIMILAR LOCATIONS SIMILAR ALL THE LOGISTICS AS JUNETEENTH. SO BOTH THOSE ARE AT BUDGETED AT 15 50,000 EACH AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHERS WERE ADJUSTED, JUST BASED ON EITHER INFLATION RELATED TO THOSE EVENTS OR THE CHANGE IN LOCATION BECAUSE WE HAD DISPLACED THEM UNTIL THE SQUARE WAS REDONE, AND SO A VARIETY OF THOSE WERE WERE ADJUSTED ON THE SMALLER, SMALLER , INCREMENTAL VALUE THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES, IT DOES. AND ALISON'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL AND ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU THAT THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF IT'S ALRIGHT WITH THE COUNCIL, I CAN SEND THAT ONE QUESTION OUT IN ADVANCE OF THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS FROM SATURDAY IF THAT OUR NORMAL PRACTICE IS TO COMPILE THEM ALL IN ONE DOT KEEP IT ALL IN ONE DOCUMENT THAT WAY THAT WAY. WE'RE NOT CHASING AFTER A CERTAIN RIGHT, OKAY? YEAH YEAH. OKAY. ROUND US UP. YES, SIR. SEE I HAVE OUR CALENDAR AS WELL AS IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. BUT THESE ARE UPCOMING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALRIGHT SO, UH, TOMORROW NIGHT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE. THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THAT UP NEXT TUESDAY WITH A AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING AND ON BUDGET TAX RATE, BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE TIME FOR DISCUSSION.UM AND FURTHER REQUESTS. UM AND TYPICALLY, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE NOT REQUIRED THE ADDITIONAL MEETING. THAT WOULD BE AUGUST 29TH. SO I THINK WE SHOULD STILL AIM FOR, UH, HAVING EVERYTHING SORT OF CLEARED UP ON OR BY THE 22ND MEETING. THAT WAY . STAFF HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO PREPARE ANY AMENDMENTS FOR THE SEPTEMBER 5TH. SO THAT BEING SAID, AND I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THERE IS THERE IS DOCUMENTATION COMING OUT ON PREVIOUSLY ASKED QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FOR THIS EVENING? I SEE NONE. SO WE WILL PREPARE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT AND THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY. THANK YOU. THANKS VERY MUCH. AND THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM UNDER WRITTEN
[5. Discuss Appointments to Boards and Commissions]
BRIEFINGS THAT MOVES US TO ITEM FIVE. DISCUSSED APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE'VE GOT A FEW OF FOR TOMORROW NIGHT , AND WE WILL TAKE THOSE AS A BLOCK AND I WILL ASK ME OR PRO TIM BASS TO PRESENT MINE TOMORROW NIGHT. AND THEN MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX ANNOUNCED FUTURE[6. Announce Future Agenda Items]
AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE ANY. OH, WOW. COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK. YOU GAVE US A PREVIEW EARLIER DID AND I'D LIKE TO FORMALIZE IT NOW . I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD GO TO THE TIMS COMMITTEE OR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUT LOOKING AT THE FEE FOR THE STORM WATER. CALCULATION FOR THE STORMWATER FEE. IT SEEMS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO ME. DO WE HAVE A SECOND LURKING OUT THERE ANYWHERE? YES SIR. REMORSE? YES OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM TIM'S, BUT IT JUST SOUNDS. VERY EXCITED. SORRY, MAYBE NEXT TIME. CASTOR MORRIS. UM THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO REFER TO DSC TO CONSIDER AMENDING OUR RECEPTION HALL USE CATEGORY, SPLITTING IT INTO LARGE AND SMALL USE WITH SCALED REQUIREMENTS, AND THIS IS THROUGH WILL GAREN'S, UM, SUGGESTION WITH THE RECENT ZONING THING SO AND CANCEL OUR LUCK WILL BE A SECOND ON THAT. OKAY AND SECOND, I'D LIKE TO REFER TO CSC, ANOTHER HOT POTATO, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER REQUIRING MORE FREQUENT INSPECTIONS. FOR APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT OLDER THAN 25 YEARS. AND I HAVE MULTIPLE SECONDS THAT WE'LL GET THAT ONE TO CATHERINE[01:30:01]
DUTTON. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, OKAY. AND CANCER. WILLIAMS THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR I'D LIKE TO, UH, REFER THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE IMPACT. HB THREE. ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARM. TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. OKAY AND COUNCILOR ELECTED A SECOND ON THAT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER AGENDA . ISLAND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PROCESS FOR DOING IT AFTER THIS THAT IS ALWAYS OPEN. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS HER LAST ITEM[7. Council will move into Executive Session]
FOR CONSIDERATION. IN OPEN SESSION. SEVEN COUNCIL WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER I MENTIONED EARLIER WE WILL NOT BE ADDRESSING ITEM ONE. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.0715. 0.072551 0.086 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS. ADAM TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM ONE OR MORE BUSINESSES. BUSINESS PROSPECTS. THERE'S THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE, STAY OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE CITY IN THE VICINITY OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, TURNPIKE AND FIRE WILL PARKWAY WHICH WITH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME ITEM, THREE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY IN THE VICINITY OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION.RELATED TO THE SAME AND SO WE WILL GO INTO RECESS FOR THIS WORK SESSION. LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 7 40. WE WILL RECONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL
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