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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING OF THE GOLAND PLAN COMMISSION.THIS IS THE WORK SESSION PORTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE STAFF BRIEFS US IN ALL THE CASES.
AFTER THIS PORTION IS OVER, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING.
UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS E 2325.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION SUBSTATION IN SUPPORT OF A FUTURE DATA CENTER IN GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 6.77 ACRES, AND EXISTING ZONING IS PD 20 DASH 17.
HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND IT IS LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE APPROVED, UM, DATA CENTER, UM, FROM THE ZONE PD 22 DASH 47, AND JUST EAST OF FUTURE DATA CENTER, UH, WHICH WILL HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS BUSINESS CENTER AND THE UTILITY SERVICE IS, UH, PROVIDED BY THIS PROPOSAL IS VALUABLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROPOSAL SUPPORTS THE DATA CENTER USE PER THE ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
DATA CENTERS GENERATE THE MOST REVENUE PER ACRE BY BUILDING TYPE, AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS.
THE LEFT, UH, PHOTO IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM HOLFORD, AND RIGHT IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND TO THE LEFT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, WHICH SHOWS THE, UH, LOCATION OF THE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION.
THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR IS, UH, GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY DIG DIGITAL REALTY.
AND WEST OF THIS IS GOING OVER HERE, IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT.
YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT'S REVERSED.
UM, THIS PORTION IS GARLAND POWER LINE.
THIS PORTION IS, UM, DIGITAL REALTY AND IT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM HOLFORD ROAD.
UM, AND OVER HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS LONG DRIVEWAY.
THIS POND OVER HERE WAS APPROVED WITH THE DATA CENTER, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THIS.
BUT THIS, UH, DRIVEWAY WILL ALSO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE SUBSTATION THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE FUTURE DATA CENTER.
AND THIS SITE PLAN JUST SHOWS, UM, FROM THE FENCE LINE, UM, ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHERN ALLEY IS APPROXIMATELY 346 FEET.
AND THIS JUST SHOWS THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
THEY ARE PROVIDING A 10 FOOT PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING ALONG HOLFORD ROAD THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND HERE IS EXAMPLE OF THE FENCE THAT WILL BE PROPOSED.
AND IT IS, UM, THE SAME AS THE, UH, SUBSTATIONS, UH, LONG LOOKOUT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE S E P TO BE IN EFFECT FOR AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE TWO EXISTING SUBSTATION NORTH OF LOOKOUT DRIVE HAVE AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD AND NO DEVIATIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE S E P FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE PD 20 DASH 17 AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION.
WE RECEIVED 23 WITHIN A NOTIFICATION OR AGAINST THE REQUEST, 24 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.
AND A TOTAL OF 48 7 RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, ALL THE RESPONSES WERE, UH, AGAINST, UH, YES.
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WERE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND 24 WERE OUTSIDE OF THE NOT NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.THEY'RE ALL FROM THAT SUBDIVISION JUST TO THE NORTH.
STARTED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I THINK.
UH, WERE ALL THE COMPLAINTS, ARE NEGATIVITIES BASICALLY THE SAME OR DID THEY, UH, GO ALL OVER THE PLACE? IT'S MAINLY, UM, OPPOSING THE SUBSTATION USE.
JUST THAT THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT, IT'S JUST THE USE.
UM, THERE IS SOME, UM, I BELIEVE JUST FROM WHAT I READ THERE, UH, THEY, UM, JUST A GENERAL LOWERING OF PROPERTY TAX VALUE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION? DOES IT, DOES IT GENERATE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ONLY THING THAT I'LL ADD IS, UH, MIGHT WANNA KEEP THAT ONE GRAPHIC SHOWING THE DISTANCE, UH, TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND THAT DRIVEWAY AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
'CAUSE WE MAY HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW FAR IT IS.
AND THE ONLY REASON THAT PROPERTY LINE GOES UP THAT FAR IS FOR A DRIVEWAY.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT A SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING DEVELOPMENT WITH 152 DWELLING UNITS AND BUILDING HEIGHTS OF TWO AND THREE STORIES.
HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION AND THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.361 ACRES AND EXISTING ZONING IS COMMUNITY OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT.
HERE'S THE CITY BY LOCATION MAP, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND UH, THIS PORTION IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.
AND THE REMAINING PORTION IS ZONE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT.
AND THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, VACANT RETIREMENT FACILITY, UH, WHICH WILL BE DEMOLISHED, UM, BEFORE, UM, CONSTRUCTING THIS NEW INDEPENDENT LIVING AND SURROUNDING ZONING ARE ALL MAINLY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.
UM, AND THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL.
AND HERE'S, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAD AN INITIAL, A MULTIFAMILY APPLICATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PLANE COMMISSION A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND IT WAS UNDER Z 23 DASH ZERO FIVE AND IT WAS FOR A MULTIFAMILY USE.
AND SINCE THEN, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITIONS AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.
AND SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE MODIFIED THE REQUEST AND SUBMITTED A NEW APPLICATION FOR SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING AND FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY USE, UM, 177 DWELLING UNITS WERE PROVIDED.
AND NOW FOR THE SENIOR LIVING, THEY'RE PROVIDING 152 DWELLING UNITS.
AND THEN FOR THE SCREENING THAT WAS PROPOSED WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY USE WAS A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN WESTERN PERIMETER.
AND NOW FOR THE INDEPENDENT LIVING THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY'RE INCREASING THE HEIGHT TO EIGHT FEET AND MASONRY WALL.
AND FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, AT THAT TIME THEY WERE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 59 FEET WITH THREE AND FOUR STORIES, AND THEY HAVE REDUCED THAT TO 48 FEET AND CONTAINING TWO AND THREE STORIES FOR THE INDEPENDENT LIVING.
AND THEY'VE ALSO REDUCED, UM, THE DENSITY FROM 41 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT WAS THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION.
NOW, FOR THE INDEPENDENT LIVING, THEY'VE REDUCED IT TO 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISIONED GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS PROPOSAL IS A REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING VACANT RETIREMENT FACILITY AND OFFERS ADDITIONAL SENIOR HOUSING TO THE AREA.
NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED THE SECOND HIGHEST REVENUE PER ACREAGE GENERATOR PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS REDEVELOPMENT OF AN UNDERPERFORMING SITE, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS A VACANT BUILDING.
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SITE PHOTOS.TOP LEFT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
TOP RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
BOTTOM LEFT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND BOTTOM RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS TWO BUILDINGS AND, UM, A TOTAL OF 152 UNITS.
AND THERE'S TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD.
AND THEN EMERGENCY ACCESS OFF OF SHADWELL, WHICH IS OVER HERE.
AND, UM, THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT LIVING USE, WHICH IS FOR RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE 55 YEARS, UM, OF AGE OR GREATER THAN THAT.
AND THE SITE REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 195 PARKING SPACES, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THAT.
HOWEVER, FOR ELDER CARE, INDEPENDENT LIVING, 50% OF THOSE SPACES SHOULD BE COVERED.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 35% OF THE PARKING SPACES TO BE COVERED.
AND BUILDING ONE OVER HERE, UM, IS GOING TO BE A THREE STORY BUILDING.
AND BUILDING TWO OVER HERE IS GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF TWO STORY, WHICH IS OVER HERE, AND THE REMAINING PORTION WILL BE THREE STORY.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS ON BUILDING SETBACK.
UM, SOME AMENITIES, UM, SPEC SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE INDEPENDENT LIVING, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, BUT THERE IS AN AMENITY BUILDING OVER HERE TO THE NORTH THAT IS AN INDOOR SWIMMING POOL.
AND OVER HERE, UM, THERE IS OUTDOOR LEISURE AREA, WHICH CONSISTS OF BARBECUE PITS, PICNIC TABLES, UM, AND OTHER OUTDOOR AMENITIES.
AND THEN OVER HERE IS, UH, WHAT THEY CALL AN ACTIVITY SPACE.
AND THERE'S SOME INDOOR GOLF, UM, THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.
AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST, THIS CORN OVER HERE WILL BE A, UH, GOLF PINGING AREA.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AND FOR ELDER CARE, INDEPENDENT LIVING, A MINIMUM OF 40% OF THE SITE NEEDS TO BE LANDSCAPE.
AND, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING 21% OF THIS SITE TO BE LANDSCAPE.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN PERIMETER AND WEST WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
AND THEN THEY'RE PROVIDING A, UM, OH, AND WITH THE, UM, MASONRY WALL, LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED TO BE ALONG THE, UH, MASONRY WALL AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A DEVIATION.
UM, BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING, UM, HIGH AND LOW LEVEL SCREENING STRIPS, WHICH MAY A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SHOW OVER HERE.
BUT THESE, UM, ARE SHRUBS ALONG THE SCREENING WALL.
UH, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING THE LARGE CANOPY TREES BETWEEN THE PARKING SPACES AND THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING ALONG THE EASTERN AND THEN THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIMETER, UM, A MASONRY, SORRY, A WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.
AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE, UM, BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
THIS IS FOR BUILDING ONE, WHICH IS THE THREE STORY BUILDING.
AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT PROPOSES 48 FEET.
UH, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THE MULTIFAMILY TWO DISTRICT IS 50 FEET.
SO ALSO FOR BUILDING ONE, FOR BUILDING TWO.
UM, AND THIS A COMBINATION OF THE TWO STORY AND THREE STORY, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 33 FEET.
AND HERE'S THE LIST OF THE DEVIATIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, REGARDING DENSITY.
THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 32 DWELLING UNITS BREAKER, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 35.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT A TRADITIONAL GARDEN STYLE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT THAT ALIGNS CLOSER TO THAT OF AN URBAN STYLE SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPMENT.
THE UNIQUE SITE LAYOUT WARRANTS THIS APPROACH AND THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THE PROPOSED UNIT MIX IS CONDUCIVE TO THE, OF THE INTENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THE G D C REQUIRES INDOOR COMMON OR RECREATIONAL AREAS TO BE PROVIDED AT A RATIO AT LEAST 100 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA PER DWELLING UNIT.
AND BASED ON THAT CALCULATION, THEY NEED A TOTAL OF 15,200 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR COMMON AREA.
AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A COMBINATION OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, UM, UH, RECREATIONAL AREA, A 2,943 SQUARE FOOT AMENITY BUILDING, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL HAVE THE INDOOR SWIMMING POOL AND 1,188 UM, SQUARE FOOT ACTIVITY WHERE THEY HAVE THE INDOOR, UM, GOLFING AND, UH, 12,828 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AMENITIES.
DUE TO THE UNIQUE ORIENTATION OF THE SITE AND THE DESIRE TO LIMIT BUILDING STORIES AND HEIGHT AND MITIGATE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES, THE APPLICANT LOCATED THE AMENITIES OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
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AN AMENITY BUILDING INDOOR POOL IS PROVIDED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH SIDEWALK CIRCULATION THROUGH THE SITE TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THESE SEVERAL OUTDOOR AMENITIES SPACES PROVIDED.NEXT ONE IS COVERED PARKING AND 50% IS REQUIRED TO BE COVERED.
AND THE RECENT UPDATES TO THE G D C MULTIFAMILY BASED ZONING NO LONGER REQUIRES COVERED PARKING AND ANY CAPACITY.
THE SPECIAL STANDARDS FOR SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING REQUIRE COVER PARKING TO BE PROVIDED AND COVERED PARKING STRUCTURES ARE PLACED INTENTIONALLY ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES TO ACT AS ADDITIONAL SCREENING AT THE REQUEST OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.
BUILDINGS OVER 30 FEET AND HEIGHT REQUIRE A SETBACK OF 1.25 TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN ALSO CARPORTS AND AMENITY BUILDINGS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK.
AND JUST TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, THEY'RE NOT, THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED THE BUILDING SETBACK SINCE THE MULTIFAMILY REQUEST.
UM, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY SPECIAL STANDARD, THERE'S A CAP OF 50 FEET, UM, AND IT'S NOT THERE FOR THE ELDER CARE INDEPENDENT LIVING.
SO, UH, THE THREE STORY PORTION OF BUILDING TWO SHOULD BE 55 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THREE STORY PORTION OF BUILDING TWO TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
IN ADDITION, BUILDING, ONE SHOULD BE 59 FEET AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS BUILDING, UM, TO BE 48 FEET FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
AND BOTH THE CARPORT AND AMENITIES ARE IN WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK.
GIVEN THE PROPERTY ALIGNS WITH THAT OF AN URBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT, THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN HEIGHT IS TO BE EXPECTED.
ADDITIONAL MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO ENSURE THE BUILDING STORIES HEIGHT DO NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES, INCLUDING REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT ALONG THE ADJACENCIES PERIMETER SCREENING PLANTINGS, VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS FOR TENANTS ON UPPER UPPER FLOORS.
AND THESE STRUCTURES ACT AS A BUFFER AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING.
40% NEEDS TO BE LANDSCAPE AND THEY'RE PROVIDING 21%.
THE APPLICANT OPTIMIZE THE SITE LAYOUT AND AMENITY AREAS TO PROVIDE AS MUCH LANDSCAPE AREA AS POSSIBLE, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE LANDSCAPE AREA THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH THE FORMER ASSISTED LIVING.
THEY'VE ALSO INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THESE LANDSCAPE AREAS TO INCREASE VALUE.
NEXT ONE IS SCREENING PERIMETER.
SCREENING IS REQUIRED ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND EITHER A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL OR A SIX FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN WITH LARGE CANOPY TREES AND EVERGREEN CHEFS ARE REQUIRED, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL WITH HIGH AND LOW LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS ALONG THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN PERIMETER WERE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, NO CANOPY TREES ARE PROVIDED.
A SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN IS PROPOSED ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN EASTERN PERIMETER LINE WITHOUT ANY EVERGREEN SHRUBS.
AND NO PERIMETER SCREENING IS PROPOSED ALONG WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD.
THE SITE LIGHT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT GIVEN THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THE SITE, LEAVES ONLY ENOUGH ROOM ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE REQUIRED MASONRY SCREENING WALL, ALONG WITH PLANTING SMALLER IN SIZE AND THE LAR THAN THE REQUIRED LARGE CANOPY TREES.
VARIOUS PLANTING OPTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO TRY AND MEET THE INTENT OF THIS REQUIREMENT WITH A FOCUS ON PROVIDING ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WITH ADEQUATE SCREENING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR ELDER CARE, INDEPENDENT LIVING, AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR ELDER CARE INDEPENDENT LIVING.
AND WE MAILED OUT 197 LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED FOUR WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND WE ONLY RECEIVED FOUR RESPONSES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE DEVIATIONS? THE FIRST PAY, THE FIRST NUMBER TWO, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, OKAY.
IT SAYS, UH, INDOOR COMMON AREAS AND MY, I, UH, MISSING SOMETHING, UH, THE PROPOSED IS WHAT INSIDE 1,188 SQUARE FEET CLUBHOUSE AND LEASING OFFICE, AND THEN 12,828 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AMENITIES.
I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR A NUMBER ON THE INDOOR 'CAUSE IT SAYS HERE, UH, REQUIRED TOTAL OF 15,200 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR COMMON OR LEISURE AREA IS REQUIRED.
W WHERE IS THE, WHAT NUMBER DO THEY HAVE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING
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FOR THE INDOOR? YES, IT'S THE 2,943 PLUS THE 1,188, AND THE REST IS ALL OUTDOOR.SO ABOUT 4,000 VERSUS 15 VERSUS 15.
AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER THING, UH, HAVE WE DONE A, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DID NOT REQUIRE A T I A.
THEY DID REVIEW IT AND SET OF METHOD TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT WAS IN YOUR REPORT.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THEN COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN.
ON PIGGYBACK ON, ON COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS' POINT, UH, I THINK YOUR REPORT MENTIONS THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CANOPY TREES EITHER ALONG THE NORTHERN PERIMETER LINE.
THEY'RE ONLY PROVIDING THE, UH, SHRUBS ALONG THE, UH, MASONRY WALL, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE LARGE CANOPY TREES EVERY 25 FEET.
SO THEY'RE OTHERWISE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT WITHOUT THE CANOPY TREES, BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE SCREENING WALL, WHICH IS REQUIRED.
ISN'T A TYPICAL SCREENING WALL ABOUT SIX FEET VERSUS EIGHT FEET? TWO? YES.
SO THEY'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT OVER, BUT FEWER TREES.
I REALIZED THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BACK IN MAY, AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS MADE WAS FOR A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO BE DONE.
AND I REALIZED THAT IT, IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED TO BE DONE BASED ON JUST A LOT OF COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAD.
SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED, IT WAS A PART OF THE DENIAL FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UM, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE REQUEST FROM MULTIFAMILY, WHICH GENERATES MORE TRAFFIC TO, UH, TO SENIOR LIVING, WHICH GENERATES LESS TRAFFIC.
SO AFTER THEY'VE REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC COUNT, THEY BELIEVE THAT, UM, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, UM, ON THE CURRENT TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, WE WENT FROM FOUR STORIES, OR THREE TO FOUR STORIES TO TWO TO THREE STORIES.
IT'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
UH, I REALIZE THAT IT'S A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, 55 AND OLDER, I MEAN, I'M 54
SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
AND OUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, MR. LUKI IS, UM, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
AND THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS BACK AND FORTH WITH, UH, WITH HIMSELF AND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND, UM, UM, AND YES, WHILE A TRAFFIC, IT DID NOT REACH THE THRESHOLD, UM, THEY HAD, THEY DO HAVE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF TRAFFIC IMPACT.
UM, HOWEVER THEY DO, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SCHEDULE, BUT THEY DO HAVE A SCHEDULE ON WHICH THEY, UM, UH, DO AN ANALYSIS OR IMPACT ANALYSIS OF, OF SORTS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR, UM, JUST THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ON CENTERVILLE ROAD, CORRECT.
SO, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO KIND OF HAVE ON THE RADAR, AND THEY'LL LOOK AT KIND OF THE, THE TRAFFIC LOAD ON CENTERVILLE ROAD AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT YES, I'LL, I'LL REITERATE WHAT NABY ED SAID THAT, UM, UH, AND I SPOKE WITH MR. LUKI, MYSELF, JUST WITH THE REDUCTION OF 25 UNITS, THE CHANGE TO SENIOR LIVING, WHICH ALSO IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A LESSER IMPACT.
UM, THEY FELT THAT, UM, WHILE THE, THE, THE T I A WASN'T EVEN REQUIRED WITH THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT WITH THIS, THESE CHANGES, IT FURTHER REDUCED THE IMPACT.
SO, UH, MR. LUKI WAS, WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHANGES.
AND IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TWO QUICK, UH, CLARIFICATIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST ON SOME PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS.
JUST, UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, THE LAR THERE WILL BE SOME LARGE CANOPY TREES ON THAT NORTHERN PERIMETER JUST WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SCREENING WALL TREES, BUT, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME ALONG THAT NORTHERN PERIMETER.
SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THAT THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, AND ALSO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN YOUR ADDITIONAL RESPONSE IF IT MADE IT, BUT I I DID NOTICE, UM, WE DID, AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF AN ADJACENT, UM, PROPERTY OWNER MR. I THOUGHT WE HAD, AND I WOULD, YEAH.
SO JUST, JUST CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS ADJACENT OWNER AND WHO HE, HE WAS HERE AT THE LAST, UM, HEARING A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO YEAH.
I WILL SAY IN TERMS OF RESPONSES BY AN APPLICANT OR DEVELOPER, THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE THOROUGH CHANGES IN PLANS, RESPONDING TO NEIGHBORS AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, SOME OF OUR INPUT TOO.
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I THINK THAT'S IT ON THIS ONE.BATTING IN A NUMBER TWO POSITION? YEAH, I'M BATTING 500
THE, UH, THIRD CASE TONIGHT IS A Z 2330.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION RENEWAL FOR A TATTOOING ESTABLISHMENT ON A PROPERTY ZONE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN SQUARE SUBDISTRICT.
UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 5 3 2 MAIN STREET, SUITE B.
THE APPLICANT IS MOMENTUM TATTOO.
IT'S ABOUT A 2300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S, UH, DISTRICT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S DESIGNATION.
UM, FIRST IS A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH, UH, FROM MAIN STREET.
AND, UH, THE SUB VIEW FROM THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING NORTH ACROSS MAIN STREET TOWARDS THE SQUARE.
THE NEXT TWO PHOTOS ARE VIEWS FROM THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING WEST AND EAST DOWN MAIN STREET.
HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN AND SITE PLAN, UH, FOR THE, UH, BUILDING.
UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED, AND THIS IS IN FACT THE SAME EXACT, UH, PLAN AS THE, UH, SITE PLAN.
IN THE CURRENT SS U P, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A 10 YEAR DURATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION.
THE SS U P TIME PERIOD GUIDE RECOMMENDS FIVE TO 10 YEARS FOR A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION HAVE REMAINED THE SAME.
UM, IN THE SS U P, UM, THE PROPOSED TATTOO SHOP IS LOCATED A DISTANCE OF LESS THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM TWO CHURCHES.
UH, THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE IS A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS MAIN STREET FROM THE SUBJECT SITE, BUT IS NOT LISTED AS A MUNICIPAL PARK BY ORDINANCE.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS MORE THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST EXISTING TATTOO SHOP.
UM, AS FOR THE MAJOR WAIVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UH, THE, UH, UH, TATTOO SHOP, UH, IS NOT OPEN ON A SUNDAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION RENEWAL FOR A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT.
USE APPROVAL OF A MAJOR WAIVER TO TABLE SEVEN, ONE OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE LOCATION AND SPECIAL STANDARDS OF THE TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENTS AND APPROVAL OF A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT USE.
UH, WE RECEIVED SIX, FIVE WERE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION ZONE, AND FOUR ONE WAS AGAINST THE, UH, PROPOSAL AND INSIDE THE CIRCLE AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROSE, IF THIS IS GRANTED, LET'S JUST SAY A 10 YEAR SS U P AND THEY DECIDED TO SELL THE BUSINESS TO ANOTHER TATTOO PARLOR, DOES THAT S U P GO AWAY AND, AND, AND THE NEW OWNERS HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN? NO, THE, UH, S U P IS, UH, TIED TO THE, TO THE, THE SITE.
SO THERE WILL BE A TATTOO SHOP BEING ALLOWED THERE FOR 10 YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YOU KNOW, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I BELIEVE WHEN THIS CAME UP, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO, UH, IT WAS, UH, ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO, UM, OCTOBER, 2020, I TURNED THIS DOWN AND, UH, I WAS NEXT DOOR EATING PIZZA ONE DAY AND I DECIDED I DON'T HAVE ANY TATTOOS.
I'M NOT TOO CRAZY ABOUT TATTOO PARLORS, BUT I DECIDED TO GO INTO THIS PLACE AND JUST LOOK AROUND.
THIS IS THE NICEST PLACE I HAVE EVER SEEN, REALLY TOP-NOTCH PLACE.
AND I FELT BAD ABOUT TURNING IT DOWN.
UH, I'LL HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
IT'S VERY, UH, VERY PROFESSIONAL.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY NICE INSIDE.
IF YOU WALKED IN IN THE FRONT DOOR, YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW IT WAS A TATTOO PARLOR.
I'VE HEARD, UH, NOT ONLY IS IT A FANTASTIC ESTABLISHMENT AS FAR AS TATTOO PARLORS GO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME VERY SEEDY, UH, PARLORS OUT THERE.
UM, ALL OF ITS NEIGHBORS SPEAK VERY HIGHLY OF IT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON KIND OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE
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HEARING ABOUT THE REQUESTS AND HOW THEY OPERATE, I SEE NO REASON TO OPPOSE THE REQUEST.AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF THEY SAW IT OF 15 YEARS, I'D BE INTERESTED IN PERMITTING THAT.
UH, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.
AND WE HAVE ONE MISCELLANEOUS ITEM COMING LATER.
THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, IT'LL BE DONE A TYPICAL WAY.
IF THERE'S ONLY ONE SET OF CANDIDATES, WE'LL HAVE A REGULAR VOTE.
IF THERE'S WORN ONE, UH, NOMINATION FOR ANY PARTICULAR OFFICE, WE'LL GO TO A WRITTEN VOTE.
SO THAT'S THE AGENDA FOR OUR WORK SESSION UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE ARE IN RECESS.
[Call to Order]
EVENING.WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.
AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSION START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND PLEDGE.
WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.
SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THESE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE THAT ALLOW US TO MEET AND HEAR FROM FELLOW CITIZENS.
AND PLEASE GIVE THE COMMISSION THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS TONIGHT.
AND WE WISH TO THANK AS ALWAYS, OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN, OUR POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS WHO PROTECT THOSE FREEDOMS THAT WE SO ENJOY AND BRING COMFORT TO THEIR FAMILIES WHO WORRY EACH DAY AS THEIR LOVED ONES LEAVE FOR THEIR DUTY.
AND IN NONE THIS DAY IN PARTICULAR, WE REMEMBER ALL THOSE THAT DIED IN THE TERRORIST ATTACKS 22 YEARS AGO, ESPECIALLY.
REMEMBER THE 55 SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN, THE 71 LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, AND THE 344 FIREFIGHTERS WHO RAN INTO DANGER TO SAVE FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS WITHOUT REGARD TO THEIR OWN SAFETY.
PLEASE HOLD IN YOUR HAND AND COMFORT THE HEARTS OF THE FAMILIES WHO SUFFERED LOSS ON THAT DAY AND THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED.
AND PLEASE GUIDE THIS NATION INTO A GOOD AND PROSPEROUS FUTURE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY.
WELL, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL START TONIGHT WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA, BUT YOU, BUT BEFORE WE DO, ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT, FILL OUT THE CARD.
AND WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AND SINCE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT MAY CALL TWO OUT, ONE TO COME SPEAK AND THE OTHER TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS READY AND BE PREPARED TO COME FORWARD.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
WE'LL START WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.AND OUR CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE.
I'LL READ THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ANY COMMISSIONER OR CITIZEN WHO WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AFTER I READ 'EM OUT, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL MOVE IT IN.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 28TH, 2023 MEETING ITEM TWO A PLATT 23 DASH 28.
THEN ADDITION, FINAL PLATT, ITEM TWO B PLAT 23 DASH 31 HYDE PARK, PRELIMINARY PLAT ITEM TWO C PLA UH, 23 DASH 32 NORTH GARLAND COMMONS, NUMBER TWO, LOT 10 R.
FINAL PLATT, ITEM TWO D CONSIDERATION.
THE APPLICATION IS C B G SURVEYING TEXAS L L C, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SIDEWALK DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1709 BEN DAVIS ROAD.
THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION ONE AND ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
AUDIENCE SEEING NONE APPROVED.
SECOND, AGAIN, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE.
UH, THAT PASSES SIX ONE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER PARIS AND OPPOSITION OF ZE BECAUSE YOU, BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE.
[Items 3A & 3B]
NOW WE GET INTO OUR ZONING CASES.AND THE FIRST ONE IS A TWO-PARTER CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION
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OF, UH, UH, PACHECO COACH AND A WESTERN COMPANY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 20 DASH 17.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 4 1 HOLFORD ROAD AND ITEM THREE B, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF PACHECO KOCH, A WESTERN COMPANY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAIL PLAN FOR AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AT THE SAME ADDRESS.
IS THE, UH, APPLICANT HERE CARE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION OR WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? WE'RE JUST HERE FOR YOUR QUESTION.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND LET'S SEE IF I'VE GOT THIS ONE RIGHT.
I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS HERE.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, ONE QUESTION.
WE, WE ASKED CITY STAFF AND THEY PROVIDED US AN ANSWER.
IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UH, THAT, THAT EMANATES FROM, UH, THIS PARTICULAR USE? AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED, UH, DISTANCE AWAY THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY COULD BE, UH, TO ESCAPE THAT IMPACT? IF Y'ALL HAD THE ANSWER, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MICROPHONE AND
UH, MY NAME IS ASHLEY REYNOLDS.
THE ADDRESS IS 7 5 5 7 RAMBLER ROAD IN DALLAS, AND WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, IMPACT TO IT.
UH, CLINTON CURRY 9 0 7 SECURITY WAY, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
UM, YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED IN THE DESIGN RIGHT.
ENSURING THAT THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE LINE OF THE SUBSTATION FOOTPRINT.
YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTION IS THAT THE SITE PLAN, THE DETAIL PLAN AS IT, AS IT IS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, TAKES THOSE CONSIDERATIONS INTO EFFECT? YES, SIR.
UH, DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE KNOW IF THERE'S A PHASE ONE'S BEEN DONE ON THAT SITE THEN? YES.
A PHASE ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON.
AND THAT WOULD'VE INDICATED FURTHER, UH, INFORMATION BEING WARRANTED? CORRECT.
SORRY, IT'S THE FRENCH IN ME GUYS.
OH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL FRIENDS HERE.
UM, BUT BASICALLY I JUST AM REPRESENTING, OH MY NAME, SORRY.
AND I LIVE ON THE BELLINGHAM STREET, WHICH IS DIRECTLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SUBSTATION PROPOSAL.
UM, AND AS OF THIS MORNING, THERE WERE 52 PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SIGNED SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE SUBSTATION AS CLOSE AS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT OUR HOMES AND KIND OF THE HEAT FACTOR.
THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE FACTOR, THE HEALTH ON OUR FAMILIES, OUR CHILDREN.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT HOW CLOSE IT IS IN THE POTENTIAL RISK FOR FIRES OR DAMAGE TO OUR PROPERTIES.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT IT COULD BE MITIGATED OR MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION WITHIN THEIR SITE, BUT NOT SO CLOSE TO OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
OR IF THERE COULD BE MORE OF A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR LIKE DISTANCE WITH TREES OR SOME SORT OF BARRIER THAT SUPPORTS OUR COMMUNITY AND PROTECTS US FROM HAVING A DECREASE IN OUR HOME VALUES AND DIFFERENT EFFECTS FROM THAT POINT.
UM, I HAD SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS YOU DID, AND I ASKED STAFF TO CALCULATE HOW FAR THE PERIMETER FENCE IS FROM, UH, YOUR SUBDIVISION PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S OVER 340 FEET, SO IT'S WELL OVER A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY.
UH, AND ALTHOUGH THE OUTLINE SHOWED PROPERTY COMING UP CLOSER, THAT IS JUST A DRIVEWAY.
SO, UH, I LOOKED INTO THAT TOO.
SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, 340 PLUS FEET FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY.
SO LIKE, OUR, OUR DRIVEWAY GOES RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT.
AND SO IT'S LIKE CONCERNING THAT IT'S RIGHT THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS 340 FEET OR HOWEVER FAR, LIKE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE VISUAL AESTHETICS OF IT COULD AFFECT OUR HOME VALUES, HOW PEOPLE WON'T WANNA BUY OR RENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAY AFFECT OTHER PROPERTY DECLINE AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE JUST CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE BOTH ON OUR STREET AND THEN ALSO WITHIN OUR H O A COMMUNITY AS WELL.
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THAT'S US.UH, SHEILA, UH, I CAN'T READ THE HANDWRITING.
UH, WAG WAP, ARE YOU CALLING SHE WAG? YEAH.
SORRY, I, I, I COULDN'T, COULDN'T READ THE WRITING.
YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
I CAN JUST LIST THAT YOU ARE AGAINST IT.
UH, YOU, YOU DIDN'T CHECK WHICH BOX, SO I CALLED YOUR NAME OUT.
AND YOU ARE AGAINST IT TOO, SIR? YES.
AND I HAVE TWO OTHER CARDS OF PEOPLE WHO WISH TO VOICE AN OPINION WITHOUT, OR THREE OTHERS WITHOUT SPEAKING.
UH, JEFFREY ARTAS AND HE'S AGAINST BRITTANY ARTAS AGAINST AND CHANDLER YOUNG AGAINST.
AND I THINK I'M GETTING ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD OR TWO.
MIKE CUR ARE, ARE, SORRY, I'M BAD ON NAMES.
I'VE GOT A, A MASTER'S DEGREE AND MISPRONOUNCING NAMES AND NOT, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO READ HANDWRITING.
I'M MIKE CORLETT AT THREE 30 PASCO ROAD.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE H O A.
THIS PROPERTY THAT'S, UM, YOU'RE BUILDING UP AGAINST, UH, THE STUDIES I FOUND ONLINE SAID 300 YARDS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE IN THE UK IS DISTANCE.
UM, WE HAVE A BIGGER CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE BUILDING FOUR SUBSTATIONS OR FOUR DATA CENTERS AND THE SUBSTATION IS REQUIRED.
SO WHY IN THE PLANNING STAGE DIDN'T THEY MOVE THAT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE AS FAR AS POSSIBLE? THERE'S ROOM ON THE SERVICE ROAD, YOU COULD RECONFIGURE HOW THE SUBSTATIONS GO.
THERE'S AN ENORMOUS RETENTION POND, AND THEN A SPACE TO PUT THE SUBSTATION.
NOT SAYING YOU WERE INVOLVED IN IT, BECAUSE FOR PHASE ONE IT JUST SAID PHASE TWO'S COMING, IT DIDN'T SAY WHAT IT WAS.
SO WE WERE ALL CALLING TO COME UP BLINDSIDED, AND NOT ALL OF US GOT THE NOTICE.
SO I'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE COMMUNITY AT A MEETING THAT WE JUST HAD TO COME AND SAY, WE'RE AGAINST IT, FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR IT, MOVE IT, RECONFIGURE THE DRAWINGS, WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S A BAD IDEA.
SO, UM, AS A COMMUNITY, GRAMERCY PARK IS AGAINST IT.
UM, JOHN CAPTA AT 1426 BELLINGHAM.
UM, IN ADDITION TO WHAT MY NEIGHBORS AND H O A, UH, LEADER HAVE SAID, WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE THROUGH TRAFFIC ON HOLFORD.
SO THE COMMUNITY HAS KIND OF A BACK DOOR THROUGH HOLFORD THAT RUNS RIGHT BY, UM, THE RANCH AND THE STRIKE REEL.
UH, THAT OFFERS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WOULD BE RIGHT THERE, UH, CLOGGING IT UP, CAUSING LOTS OF TRAFFIC TO COME THROUGH.
UM, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SPEED DOWN THIS ROAD.
AND WE JUST WANT TO MITIGATE AS MANY RISKS AS WE CAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US HAVE, OUR YOUNG FAMILIES HAVE SMALL CHILDREN THAT LIKE TO PLAY OUTSIDE.
UM, JUST IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A DATA CENTER THAT WAS BUILT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET LAST YEAR.
UM, THEY TOOK OVER THE CHURCH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, IT WAS A C SITE FOR SOAR EYES TO SAY THE LEAST.
UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CAUSED A LOT OF TRASH AND JUST IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, INVADE OUR SPACE.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID.
WE ARE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGAINST THIS.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? CAN I JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS? SURE.
I ALLOW THE, UH, UH, APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.
SO AS FAR AS THE, UM, LOCATION ON THE PROJECT, ON THE PROPERTY, UM, WE COULD NOT MOVE IT, WE COULDN'T SWAP PLACES WITH THE DETENTION POND BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATIONS OF THE SITE.
THAT'S THE LOW PART OF THE SITE.
AND SO OUR DETENTION POND HAS TO BE DOWN IN THAT CORNER.
SO THAT'S WHY, WHY THE SUBSTATION WAS PROPOSED TO BE NORTH OF IT.
AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC FLOW, THIS IS GONNA GENERATE VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC.
IT'S ONLY NEEDED TO ACCESS THE SITE FOR AS NEEDED MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON HOLFORD.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'VE SEEN.
I, I LIVE JUST DOWN THE ROAD IN OAKS AND STONY CREEK, SO I I KNOW WHERE Y'ALL ARE.
UH, THOSE DATA CENTERS, THEY GENERATE ALMOST ZERO TRAFFIC EXCEPT DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THE TRAFFIC'S HORRENDOUS, BUT OTHERWISE
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IT'S ALMOST ZERO TRAFFIC.AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A, A SUBSTATION AT EACH ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPLEXES TOO FOR DATA CENTERS.
WE'VE GOT TWO OUT THERE AND WE HAVE TWO SUBSTATION, ACTUALLY THREE.
'CAUSE ONE'S A DUAL SUBSTATION ALONG LOOKOUT.
WANNA ADD? COMMENT? OH, SORRY.
UM, FER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EXPANDED, UH, NA NAME AND OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
FER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EXPANDED, RIGHT? WIDENED, UH, YEAH, THAT'S ON THE CURRENT PLANS TO BE DONE.
I THINK IT'S, UH, THE, HE'S, I THINK THEY'VE STARTED SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN MARKING ALREADY.
SO THE H O A HAS INCURRED FOUR EXPENSES IN, IN THE PAST TWO YEARS AS A CON RESULT OF THESE CONSTRUCTIONS.
UM, OUR MAIN MONUMENT AT THE FRONT ON CAMPBELL WAS WRECKED BY A CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE AND THEN WRECKED AGAIN AND
UM, AND THE, THE GAS ATMOS, UH, HAVE TORN UP OUR LANDSCAPING, DISRUPTED OUR SPRINKLERS.
AND WHEN I CONTACT ENCORE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT SUBCONTRACTOR DID IT.
SO I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS THAT AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE PART OF THE ENCORE GRID, IS GONNA BE 300 FEET FROM THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT.
AND THEY CAN'T TELL ME WHO DESTROYED MY LANDSCAPE SPRINKLERS DAMAGED MY RETAINING WALL.
SO I, THE H O A IS CURRENTLY OUT $14,000 THAT I'M TRYING TO RECOUP AND I'M BEING GHOSTED.
SO UNTIL THAT'S DONE, THEY NEED TO COME BACK WITH MORE ASSURANCES THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SNICKER AT YOU.
NO, MY PRES MY WIFE'S PRESIDENT OF OUR H O A AND, UH, TRACKING DOWN WHO RAN OVER OUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND TORE UP STUFF, IT IS A CHORE.
NO MEAN, I, WE, I LITERALLY HAVE PICTURES.
WE, WE'VE SENT THEM TO ENCORE.
UM, THEIR INSURANCE AGENT REACHED OUT TO US AND THEN, UM, IT WAS JUST, IT'S JUST BEEN A CIRCULAR NIGHTMARE.
AND NOW NO ONE'S ANSWERING OUR PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT 14 GRAND AND WE'RE A YOUNG H O A, WE CAN'T KEEP SPENDING MONEY TO REPAIR OUR LANDSCAPING.
EVERY TIME A CONTRACTOR OR A SUBSTATION ISS BUILT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO LEAN THE PROPERTIES OR THE CONTRACTOR OR THE PERMIT FOR THE ELECTRICAL COM, THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT THAT ENCORE PULLED TO EXTEND THE LINES.
BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE TEXAS DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
I COULD DO IT IN GEORGIA WHERE I'M A CONTRACTOR, BUT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I MEAN, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BAD IDEA.
AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE DID EVERYTHING BACKWARDS.
THE ROAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN WIDENED THEN THESE PROJECTS SHOULD HAVE STARTED.
WE HAVE CON WE HAVE COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS, VEHICLES STILL IN OUR LOT TODAY BECAUSE OF THE DATA CENTERS AND ET CETERA.
I'VE HAD TO STOP IN THE MORNING AND YELL AT THEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HEAVY EQUIPMENT PARKED ON OUR STREETS.
AND THESE PEOPLE WILL PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
SCHOOL BUSES CAN'T GET THROUGH AND THAT'S JUST NOT OUR JOB.
SO I IMPLORE YOU TO SIDE TABLE IT, SIDE BURNER, WHATEVER, LET THEM FIGURE OUT A BETTER SOLUTION THAN BEING THAT CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.
UH, IN TERMS OF TABLING IT, UH, THIS PLAN COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
THE STATE WHO ALSO CONTROLS A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, UH, HAS MADE IT TO WHERE WE HAVE TO APPROVE SOMETHING WITHIN 30 DAYS, OTHERWISE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THIS WILL ALSO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, EITHER LATER THIS MONTH OR EARLY NEXT MONTH.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THE PROCESS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? NOT, NOT EVERYBODY ALL AT ONCE.
OH, COMMISSIONER ROSE, JUST A SECOND MOVE.
UH, LET ME FIND YOUR BUTTON HERE.
SECOND MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY BY COMMISSIONER ROSE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. THIS IS TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY COMMISSIONER ROSE? I'M TRYING TO TURN IT OFF.
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OFF.UM, I, OUR COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN, UH, IS, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.
AND, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST EVENINGS, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, THE SMELL IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, IN MY RESEARCH, WE GOT THIS ON THURSDAY TO REVIEW, UH, I DID ASK THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, DOES IT AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES? THE, THE RESULTS THAT I FOUND ONLINE WERE INCONCLUSIVE AND THAT THE HOUSES, UH, NEAR THOSE SUBSTATIONS DO SELL GENERALLY, UM, REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, IT'S MIXED.
UH, COUNTRIES, UH, UH, IN, IN THE WESTERN WORLD HAVE ADOPTED MORE STRINGENT ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAN A LOT OF AREAS IN THE UNITED STATES.
BUT, UH, AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THIS COUNTRY HAS DONE, UH, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH, UH, OF AN IMPACT THAT'S ACKNOWLEDGED.
UH, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT THE MOMENT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIR? ENTERTAIN A MOTION? NO.
COMM COMMISSIONER ROSE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, ONCE THIS, IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND, AND, AND, AND THE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED, THERE'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO BE ANY TRAFFIC TO SPEAK OF EXCEPT FOR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.
AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, UH, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. SO IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING IT CONSTRUCTED AND, AND GETTING IT SET UP AND OPERATIONAL.
SO IT'S THAT 18 MONTHS OR 24 MONTHS, HOWEVER LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, THAT'LL BE, IT WILL BE DISRUPTIVE.
BUT ONCE THAT'S DONE, IT WON'T BE DISRUPTIVE.
COMMISSIONER ROSE IS VERY RIGHT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE ROAD BASED UPON WHAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UH, TO ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT HOLD FOR GETTING WIDENED BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS, THIS IS NOT TYPICALLY HOW A CITY OPERATES.
UM, IN THE PAST, MANY CITIES HAVE BEEN CAUGHT SPENDING TONS OF MONEY DOING ROAD AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO ONLY HAVE THE PERSON WHO PROMISED TO BUILD A DEVELOPMENT OR PUT IN A A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NEVER SHOWED UP.
AND THE CITY'S OUT ALL THE MONEY TO MAKE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES.
SO TYPICALLY THE CITIES ARE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT SPENDING CAPITAL FUNDS ON SOMETHING, ON A PROMISE.
THEY'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL IT ACTUALLY OCCURS.
AND THAT'S WHY THINGS LIKE HOLFORD HAVE NOT BEEN DONE YET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MOVING THAT DIRECTION FAIRLY QUICKLY.
IN A DATA CENTER, THERE'S HARDLY ANY EMPLOYEES PRESENT.
THERE'S SECURITY AND MAYBE ONE OR TWO TECHNICIANS IN A GIANT DATA CENTER BECAUSE THERE'S NOT CONSTANTLY HAVING TO BE WORK DONE.
THOSE DATA CENTERS HAVE TO BE FED HOWEVER, WITH POWER.
SO YOU HAVE A POWER SUBSTATION AND WE SURE LOVE OUR CELL PHONES AND OUR TABLETS AND OUR TELEVISION AND OUR STREAMING SERVICES.
AND THAT'S THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THOSE DATA CENTERS.
AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE DATA CENTERS, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WATCH THE LATEST MOVIE FROM FOX OR A, B, C OR WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SEE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THESE THINGS, A POWER CENTER, THERE'S SOME THERE ALREADY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE.
AND ONCE THEY'RE IN PLACE, THEY'RE VERY BENIGN.
THEY SIT THERE TRANSFORMING HIGHER VOLTAGE TO LOWER VOLTAGE AND DELIVERING IT INTO THE POWER CENTER.
AND UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS SPECIFICALLY, I'M THINKING MORE IN TERMS OF, OF A TERRORIST ACT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED EVERY DAY.
I HAVE TWO OF THEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FAIRLY CLOSE BY THAT I NEVER SEE ANYBODY THERE.
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SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THESE THINGS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR TECHNOLOGY AND THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY, 300 PLUS FEET FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE POWER STATION IS QUITE A BIT OF SPACE.UM, I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE A, A GOOD JOB IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO PLACE THIS THING.
UH, TECHNOLOGY WISE, WE HAVE THE SAFEST GRID IN THE WORLD BECAUSE THE RULES APPLY TO HOW IT'S PROTECTED.
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES HAVE CHANGED DRASTICALLY OVER THE YEARS.
UH, THIS, I CANNOT SEE HOW THIS WOULD BE A NEGATIVE THING FOR AN AREA WHEN IT IS VIRTUALLY GONNA BE UNSEEN FROM MOST OF THE PEOPLE AROUND.
SO I'VE GOT REALLY NO TRUE REASON TO DENY IT.
UH, WHEN THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE, THIS WHOLE THING, UH, YEARS BEFORE YOUR SUBDIVISION WAS EVEN DREAMED OF WHEN IT OPENED UP, WHEN THE SALES TRAILER WAS THERE, I WENT OVER THERE TO, I'M AN ARCHITECT, SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF HOUSE PLANS ARE GOING IN.
AND I TALKED TO THE SALES PERSON AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE AREA AND I SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEM ABOUT THE ZONING FOR THE DATA CENTERS BEHIND THEM.
AND WITH DATA CENTERS COME A SUBSTATION, NO POWER GENERATION, JUST TRANSFORMING DOWN AND MAKING IT USABLE POWER.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT ONE FOR EACH OF THE OTHER DATA CENTER COMPLEXES.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S A PART OF SOMETHING THAT WAS PLANNED LONG, LONG BEFORE THAT, UH, THE SUBDIVISION WENT IN AND I'M SORRY THAT IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
IT SHOULDN'T BE A VISIBLE ISSUE.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ACCIDENTS THAT SUBSTATIONS OR ANYTHING.
NOW, IF THERE'S POWER GENERATION, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY, BUT THERE'S NONE OF THAT GOING ON.
SO I'M INCLINED TO VOTE FOR IT TOO.
UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE, IT'S ON NOW.
WE, UH, APPROVE THIS APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A SUBSTATION.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE AND WHO HAD THE SECOND COMMISSIONER DALTON.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.
AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, IF YOU'LL HIT IT AGAIN.
WE DID HEAR Y'ALL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE, THERE WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING WE COULD DO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
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CASE IS ALSO TWO-PARTER, THREE C CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION EXPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR ELDER CARE INDEPENDENT LIVING USE.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE 4 1 3 AND 5 0 5 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD.
AND ITEM THREE D, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION EXPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAIL PLAN FOR ELDER CARE SLASH INDEPENDENT LIVING USE.
AND, UH, SCOTT DORNER DINGER, I'M BATTING 800 TONIGHT ON NAMES GETTING THEM WRONG.
SCOTT DINGER, 3,500 MAPLE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
UM, WE HAVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MODIFY, TWEAK AND COME UP WITH THE DESIGN THAT I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES.
UM, I KNOW ORIGINALLY I THINK THERE WAS 147 PEOPLE IN A PETITION THAT DIDN'T LIKE THE PROJECT.
UM, AND NOW I THINK WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GOT A, A FAIRLY UNANIMOUS OPINION ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF.
WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD WAS A MARKET RATE APARTMENT.
AND I REMEMBER MR. ROBERTS MEETING WITH YOU THAT IN THIS LAST, UM, SESSION THAT YOU SAID IF IT WAS THREE STORY, YOU WOULD VOTE FOR IT.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN ON MY RIGHT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IF IT WAS FOR SENIORS OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU MIGHT BEFORE THE PROJECT.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I HAVE TO GET THE CREDIT TO.
UM, COMMISSIONER LOCKE, UH, OUR COUNCILMAN LOCKE THAT SHE KEPT, I
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MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MET WITH WILL, MET WITH EVERYONE AND SAID, OKAY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HATES IT.WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? AND WE KEPT PUSHING THIS IDEA OF SENIOR LIVING AND IT, I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO LEGALLY GET IT DONE.
BUT WE FOUND A LOOPHOLE AND WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO GET IT DONE.
UH, THERE'S SOME PREVIOUS LANGUAGE ABOUT THE PREVIOUS OWNER NOT WANTING THE PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY BE ANYTHING CLOSE TO 55 PLUS, BUT WE'RE NOT ASSISTED LIVING OR A NURSING FACILITY.
WE'RE 55 ACTIVE ADULT LIVING, WHICH IS JUST THE BOTTOM, A LITTLE SECTION OF THAT CODE.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT INTO THE DESIGN OF THAT.
UM, I SAID, UH, COMMISSIONER OR COUNCILMAN LOCKE GETS CREDIT FOR THAT.
'CAUSE SHE REALLY PUSHED IT AND I, I GIVE HER ALL THE CREDIT.
UM, SAT DOWN WITH DONNA AND SAM AND MET WITH EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT GOOD FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY TO WORK, UM, WITH IT AND BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET BEHIND.
SO THE ELEVATIONS, AS YOU HAVE UP ON SCREEN, WE WENT FROM FOUR STORIES TO THREE STORIES ON THE MAIN BUILDING.
MAIN BUILDING HAS ROUGHLY A HUNDRED UNITS.
SECONDARY BUILDING HAS 50 UNITS.
THE UNIT COUNT DID GO DOWN BEFORE WE WERE IN THE HIGH 70 RANGE.
UM, AND THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WITH A MARKET RATE APARTMENT THAT WAS REALLY HINDERING THE SITE WAS PARKING.
IT'S ALWAYS, YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, YOU KNOW, IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO PARKING.
AND SO WITH GOING SENIOR LIVING, WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO ONE UNIT PER, UH, ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT, WHICH DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE PARKING REQUIREMENT BY ROUGHLY A HUNDRED SPACES.
AND WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO IS WIDEN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT, WHICH ALLOWED US TO LOWER THE HEIGHT AND JUST SQUEAK IN THE ECONOMICS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THERE ONCE WE GOT OVER ONE 50.
SO, UH, WE MOVED THE POOL AND THE AMENITIES OUTSIDE IN AN AMENITY BUILDING, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU GUYS HERE SHORTLY.
I CAN GO THROUGH THE, THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.
UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, UM, IN THAT SECTION TO BUILD INSIDE THAT FROM THE SETBACK.
THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS MAXINE'S PROPERTY, UM, IS ACTUALLY ZONED COMMERCIAL.
SO THE PROPERTY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS KATHY'S, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING THE BUILDING, THE, THE FITNESS CENTER INSIDE THAT SETBACK.
BUT THIS IS A PLAN THAT I WORKED WITH IN DETAIL WITH KATHY AND MAXINE TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT THEY BOTH REALLY LOVED.
AND SO WE'VE GOT THE POOL SITTING THERE AS WELL AS THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET SIDE.
THE, I TOOK ONE OF THE HOUSES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS, LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
AND I GAVE THAT TO THE ARCHITECT AS A SAMPLE OF WHAT THE FRONT OF THE FITNESS CENTER SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO FROM THE STREET SIDE, IT WILL LOOK LIKE A HOME WE WANT.
THAT WAS THE IDEA IS IT'S, IT'S WE'RE 41 FEET, SIX INCHES FROM BACK OF CURB TO THE FRONT DOOR.
SO IT SET BACK JUST AS FAR, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN HAD THE WALL ALL THE WAY UP AT THE STREET, WHICH NOBODY AGREED THAT THAT WOULD LOOK GOOD.
IT WAS, IT WAS TOO ARDUOUS INSIDE THE, THE ENVELOPE IT, THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WITH THIS BUILDING NOW, I BELIEVE THAT IT'LL LOOK CONSISTENT, IT'LL LOOK FLUENT AND IT'LL BE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY TO COME IN FROM THAT SIDE, THERE'LL BE NO RESIDENTIAL ACCESS FROM THE INSIDE OF THE COMPLEX OUT TO THE STREET OR VICE VERSA.
SO WE WON'T BE GETTING PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH AND, AND WANDERING AROUND.
SO, UH, THE OTHER AREA THAT WAS AN AREA OF CONCERN WAS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IN THIS LITTLE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, WE ORIGINALLY HAD A PLAYGROUND AND, AND OR A DOG WALKING AREA POST IN THAT AREA.
IT'S NOW A PUTTING GREEN, SO A LITTLE BIT QUIETER.
UM, NOW THAT WE'RE GOING 55 PLUS, WE REALLY PUSHED TO TRY TO MAKE IT, WE VISITED EVERY 55 PLUS COMMUNITY OR IN A 30 MILE RADIUS.
AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE, THE LARGE REC ROOM CONCEPT WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE 15,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER ROOF, SIMPLY WASN'T UTILIZED.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT ANYMORE.
ACTIVE ADULT MEANS THAT THEY WANT WALKING AREAS, THEY WANT PUTTING GREENS, THEY WANT OUTDOOR POOLS, NOT INDOOR POOLS.
THEY WANT OTHER AMENITIES LIKE A ZENGAR IN A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE AND DO YOGA.
THEY WANTED ALL THE AMENITIES OUT WHERE THEY COULD BE ACTIVE OUTSIDE AS OPPOSED TO BEING STUCK IN ONE BIG REC ROOM.
SO THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE VARIANCES WE HAVE IS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT 15,000 SQUARE FEET NOT TO BE UNDER ROOF.
'CAUSE WE JUST FOUND THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THEY WANT OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES TO BE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE AND UTILIZE THIS INDOOR COURTYARD AREA IS WHERE WE PLAN ON DOING WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ZEN GARDEN, WHERE THEY'LL DO YOGA, MEDITATION, PRAYERS, ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA KIND OF GIVES 'EM A QUIET, PEACEFUL AREA.
IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE KIND OF A BARBECUE, INDOOR OUTDOOR AREA WHERE, UH, GUESTS OR RESIDENTS CAN COME TOGETHER, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, EVENTS, THINGS WHERE THEY CAN BE ACTIVE TOGETHER, MAKE IT A CARD ROOM.
WE'VE GOT A ROLLUP DOOR PLANNED WHERE THEY CAN FOOD, SERVE, SERVE FOOD FROM THE INSIDE KITCHEN OUT INTO THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA SO THEY CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HOLD MOVIE NIGHTS AND GAMES AND DO ALL THE ACTIVITIES FOR THE SENIORS.
ALONG THIS SIDE, WE DID MAKE THE BUILDING AND THIS OTHER BUILDING, WE MADE THIS TWO STORIES BECAUSE WITH THIS WAS THE MOST PARALLEL, CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, WE TRIED TO TAKE IN
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CONSIDERATION BY LOWERING THAT ELEVATION THAT IT WOULDN'T BE SO DOMINATING AND LOOKING DOWN INTO THEIR BACKYARDS, WE TRIED TO MAKE THAT ACCOMMODATION TO FIT IN THERE.ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE CALLED OUT IN THE PLANS IS SHUTTERS TO ACT AS PRIVACY SHUTTERS ON THE THIRD STORY.
SO THOSE MEMBERS THAT LIVE AROUND THE COMMUNITY WON'T FEEL LIKE THEIR PRIVACY IS BEING INVADED BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR LOOKING DOWN ON THEM.
WE PUT THESE LOUVRE SHUTTERS IN, SO YOU CAN ONLY KIND OF SEE OUT AND DOWN AS OPPOSED TO BEING ABLE TO LOOK OUT.
SO AGAIN, TRY TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION EVERYONE'S PRIVACY.
THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN SHOWING THE GREEN AREAS AND BUFFERS.
IT PRETTY MUCH FITS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WE DO HAVE COVERED PARKING ALONG THIS BACK LINE OF THE PARCEL TO BE ABLE TO GIVE ADDITIONAL PRIVACY.
UH, I BELIEVE THE REQUIREMENT IS, UH, FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE IS, UH, 50% PARKING COVERAGE.
SO WE STILL PLAN ON PUTTING THOSE COVERED PARKING AREAS IN.
UM, WE ARE OVER PARKED CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE ROUGHLY 20 SPACES.
WE'VE GOT EXTRA PARKING PER THE CODE, SO WE'VE GOT ENOUGH FOR VISITORS, GUESTS, EMPLOYEES, HANDICAPPED.
WE'RE, WE'RE OVER PARKED CURRENTLY.
THESE ARE JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE AMENITIES AROUND THE SPACE THAT I HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
HERE'S A SAMPLE OF THE PUTTING GREEN.
WE PLAN ON PUTTING IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER SAMPLES OF THE BARBECUE AND FIRE PIT AREA AT THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY PARK BENCHES AND SEATING AREAS THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS A, GIVES A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE INDOOR CORRIDOR WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
I, THIS IS A GOLF SIMULATOR AND KIND OF A GENERAL LOUNGE AREA ON THE INSIDE FITNESS CENTER AT THE BACK BY THE POOL.
AND THEN WE DO PLAN ON PUTTING SOME SHADE COVERS TO COVER THE POOL AREAS.
SO THIS PICTURE ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THOSE SHADE COVERS.
THEY WANNA BE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA ALWAYS BE IN THE SUN.
SO PREVIOUSLY THIS JUST ILLUSTRATES EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST US
SO, ILLUSTRATED IN GREEN QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE.
YOU SAID THE, UH, PRIOR OWNER HAD PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON BEING A NURSING HOME.
DID THEY PUT A DEEDED RESTRICTION ON THE LAND? NO, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE CAN'T USE IT FOR, UH, ADULT NURSING CARE.
RIGHT, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO A FULL DEFORESTATION RE-SKILL LICENSED FACILITY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I WASN'T THAT FACILITY CLOSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR I THINK WELL OVER FIVE YEARS.
AND THEY STILL PUT THAT KIND OF RESTRICTION ON THE CONTRACT? YES, SIR.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A ACTIVE SENIOR FACILITY, ARE YOU GOING TO BE PROVIDING MEALS INSIDE OR A KITCHEN, DINING AREA OR ANYTHING? WE'LL HAVE A KITCHEN AREA WHERE EITHER FAMILY MEMBERS CAN COME AND COOK AND LIKE I SAID, HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, BUT WE WON'T ACTUALLY BE PROVIDING ACTUAL MEALS FOR.
SO IT WILL BE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT LIVING? CORRECT.
UH, I, I'M GONNA SAY I HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVE IN A FACILITY SIMILAR TO THIS.
I HAVE FRIENDS THAT I VISIT IN FACILITIES LIKE THIS AND DISAPPEARS TO BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE ONES I'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES AND WHAT THE OFFERINGS ARE FOR THE OTHER PLACES.
AND YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT ABOUT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT GAME ROOM WITH A POOL TABLE AND, AND ALL THE FACILITIES I'VE GONE IN TO VISIT WHERE THEY DO HAVE A LIVING AREA, IT'S TYPICALLY EMPTY.
EVEN WITH THE TELEVISION AND CHAIRS AND IT IS JUST NOT BEING USED THE WAY YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE.
I, UH, I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
COMMISSIONER ROSEN AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, AT LEAST THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, UNITS WILL HAVE, UH, FIXED BLINDS ON THE OUTSIDE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE MOVABLE OR ADJUSTABLE.
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THAT PEOPLE THAT EITHER CAN'T SEE OUT INTO THE BACKYARDS.THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND PLAN.
I DO RECALL THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU CAME AND THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION.
UM, IT, I, WELL, THANK YOU FOR NOT DECIDING TO TURN AROUND AND JUST THROW UP, THROW UP YOUR HANDS AND I'M DONE.
UM, IT REALLY SHOWS, UH, PERSEVERANCE AND COMMITMENT TO NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I CERTAINLY LIKE EVERYTHING THAT I'M SEEING, SO THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE? I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
UH, YOU, YOU FOLKS GOT LUCKY WHEN THIS DEVELOPER DECIDED TO GO HERE.
MOST OF 'EM WOULD NOT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY LIKE THIS TO MAKE COMPLETELY CHANGE OF PROJECT AND GO ALL THIS.
I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS LISTENING TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND WHAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPROVEMENT THANK FOR, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT'S IT FOR US.
UH, SAM PIERCE, AUGUSTA AUGUSTI.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SPEAK.
GUS, I LIVE AT FIVE 18 SHADWELL DRIVE.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE ROWS FOR 47 YEARS, SO WE KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD REAL WELL.
AND, UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH SCOTT FOR THE PAST SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS.
I FELT LIKE I HAD A SECOND JOB A WHILE.
UM, BUT WE'VE NEGOTIATED AND, AND, UH, I THINK SCOTT HAVE COME TO THE TABLE WITH, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN LIVE WITH.
AND IT WASN'T JUST ME, IT WAS A BUNCH OF FOLKS CONTRIBUTING TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
ANY COMMENTS? LIKE I SAID, YOU, YOU, YOU GOT LUCKY THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO YOU.
MARGARET ANDERSON, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
MARGARET ANDERSON, 5 2 6 CANDLEWOOD LANE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, I WANTED TO TO SAY THAT I DIDN'T SEND MY CARD IN, BUT I HAVE CHANGED MY VOTE FROM NA TO YAY.
AS I TOLD SCOTT, I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM WORKING WITH ALL OF US AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION.
I THINK THAT WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY AND BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO STRESS IS, I KNOW IT'S, BUT ALMOST THE END OF BUDGET TIME FOR CITY BUDGETS, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THE CITY STAFF, Y'ALL INCLUDED, AND, AND THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANNA REVITALIZE OUR AREA OF TOWN, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC AND THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE 20 SOME ODD YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE OR HAVE CHANGED.
PEOPLE ARE NOW IN NORTH GARLAND, THEY'RE IN ETTE, THEY'RE IN ROCKWELL, THEY'RE IN SAX.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OFF OF 30 AND 6 35 TO GET NORTH AND EAST.
AND I REALLY THINK, I KNOW THAT THAT'S A CAPITAL AND IMPROVEMENT BUDGET ITEM THAT TAKES A WHILE TO STUDY, BUT I REALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND TO AT LEAST PLAN FOR SOMETHING THAT CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC FLOW BETTER.
IF, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY IN OUR BRIEFING, UH, THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT AND I THINK THERE'S A STUDY PLANNED FOR THOSE ROADS.
SO AS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S UM, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS KIND OF A PLAN TO LOOK AT CERTAIN ROADWAYS AND, UM, DO TRAFFIC
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COUNTS AND KIND OF, UM, SORT OF MORE OF A CITY INITIATED, UM, ANALYSIS OF SORTS.I MAY NOT BE USING THAT TERMINOLOGY CORRECT, MR. LUKE.
HE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, UM, BUT YES, SIR, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
UM, THESE NEXT CARDS, THEY, UH, DIDN'T MARK WHETHER THEY WANTED TO TESTIFY OR JUST STATE A POSITION.
I LIVE AT 5 0 6 CANDLEWOOD LANE.
I'M PROBABLY THE PERSON MOST IMPOUNDED BY THIS PROJECT.
UM, SCOTT AND I HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSE TOGETHER FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT HE HAS DONE WELL BEYOND WHAT MOST DEVELOPERS I BELIEVE WOULD DO, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE IT.
HE'S STILL WORKING ON THE, THE PROPERTY BETWEEN ME AND KATHY'S, UH, JOHNSON.
THAT'S THE BACK END WHERE THE HOUSE, APPARENT HOUSE WILL BE.
UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ELSEWHERE BESIDES JUST WHERE WE ARE AND SPOKE TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE FACT OF HAVING A SENIOR LIVING UNIT WHERE WE, WHERE HE'S PLACING IT.
AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY, WOW, THIS IS WONDERFUL.
GARLAND DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
WE'RE ALL GETTING GRAY HAIRED.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD RATHER LIVE IN AN APARTMENT AND NOT HAVE THE, TO TAKE CARE OF A HOME.
AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
WE'RE ALL KIND OF WONDERING WHAT, WHAT ARE THE RENTAL RATES? YEAH.
SO EVERYBODY HERE I BELIEVE IS WE, WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD.
OH, ORAL, UH, KATHLEEN JOHNSON.
UM, I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOT.
UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WILL DO BEFORE THE DEMOLITION TAKES PLACE.
AND AS THEY SEND AN INSPECTOR OUT TO CHECK FOR ASBESTOS, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S ASBESTOS, BUT THEN WE'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S NOT ASBESTOS.
BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS THAT THERE IS, AND IT'S A VERY OLD BUILDING.
SO ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY, I HOPE THAT DOES TAKE PLACE.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD, THAT'S PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
THEY HAVE TO SHOW PROOF THAT AN ASBESTOS SURVEY WAS DONE, AND IF THE BEST IS FOUND, THEY HAVE TO HIRE A LICENSED MITIGATING SPECIALIST TO REMOVE IT.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT BUILDING.
ONE IS MUCH YOUNGER THAN THE OTHER PART, AND THE OLD PART IS THE PART THAT HAS THE ASBESTOS.
IT WAS WASN'T UNCOMMON FOR CEILING TILES FOR I KNOW ABDUCT, I ELEMENTARY HAD ITS BEFORE THE, AS ASBESTOS AND THE, AND THE FLOOR TILE REALISTIC.
UM, I ALSO HAVE REQUESTED, UH, FROM SCOTT THAT BEFORE THEY DEMOLISH IT, THERE'S DEFINITELY A RODENT PROBLEM THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED FROM THERE.
AND, UM, MY HUSBAND WAS IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
HE SAID THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO GAS THE BUILDING BEFOREHAND AND IT KILLS EVERYTHING BEFORE IT COMES DOWN.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'VE BEEN HEARD ALL RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK SCOTT.
HE HAS WORKED VERY HARD WITH US.
UM, WE WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT THE INITIAL PROBLEM.
WE BUILT OUR HOUSE 43 YEARS AGO, RAISED THREE KIDS, WAS GONNA BE OUR FOREVER HOME.
AND WE WERE LOOKING AT WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO NEXT? UM, BUT I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE VERY GOOD FOR THE WHOLE AREA.
AND BEING 53 PLUS IT WILL CUT DOWN ON ALL THAT TRAFFIC THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ON.
UH, DID YOU, DID YOU NOT WISH TO SPEAK OR NO? NO.
UH, VIOLA LEONARD IS IN OPPOSITION.
I'M GONNA, UM, I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I'LL, I'LL KEEP IT RIGHT HERE.
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UH, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK OR NOT TO TERRY BRADSHAW IS A FOUR.AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER CARDS THAT JUST WANTED TO VOICE THEIR POSITION AND NOT SPEAK.
GLORIA AND SKIP, UH, COCORAN FOUR.
THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SHOULD SPEAK ON THIS CASE? COME ON DOWN, I JUST A MOMENT.
BELIEVE ME, I KNOW THE FEELING.
SO WE HAVE A NEW AREA, BUT ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
I HAVE FAMILY FRIENDS THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING TO GO TO THIS TYPE OF CENTER IN DENTON, THE VILLAS THERE.
WHEN WE WALKED OUT OF THE FIRST MEETING, I SAID TO SCOTT, I'VE BEEN IN SALES 60 SOMETHING YEARS, YOU NEED TO SLOUGH OFF THIS PROPERTY.
AND HEADLONG, I'M THANKFUL THAT HE DID NOT.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE WHAT'S THERE.
I MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A RESERVATION FOR NINE, FOR 2026 IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND GET ON THE LIST, YOU KNOW? BUT REALLY WE APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE HEY, WE'RE GETTING BIG AND WE KNOW THAT.
BUT I THINK WE CAN GET BIG SO WE CAN LIVE WITH BIG.
I CAN'T GET OUT ON CENTERVILLE.
I'M JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM.
AND I DO SOME THINGS THAT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU.
'CAUSE WHEN I WORKED POLICE DEPARTMENT YEARS AGO, THEY MIGHT'VE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE, MIGHT HAVE NOT AGREED WITH WHAT IT DID, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
EVERYONE I'VE TALKED TO JUST WANTS THE CITY TO COMPLETE MAYFIELD
I LIVE AT 5 24 MAYFIELD AVENUE.
I JUST MOVED INTO THE, UH, COMMUNITY, I'M GONNA SAY TWO YEARS AGO.
AND I JUST WANNA KNOW, IF YOU EVER DECIDE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, IS IT ALWAYS GONNA BE A SENIOR LIVING? GOOD QUESTION.
BECAUSE I HAVE TWO KIDS AND I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THEM IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, OR THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA STAY THE SAME WAY IF HE DECIDES TO SELL TWO YEARS AFTER HE JUST BUILT, LET LEMME DOUBLE CHECK AGAIN HOW THIS IS WORDED.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT ALLOWS CERTAIN USES AND, UH, OTHER USES AREN'T INVOLVED.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, ELDERLY CARE.
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, COME BACK AND WANT TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PLAN COMMISSION AND YOU WOULD AGAIN GET NOTIFIED.
BUT THEY CAN, THAT CAN HAPPEN.
IF IT, IF IT GETS APPROVED MM-HMM.
IT, IT COULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN, OR 50 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND OR A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD.
IT, IT COULD, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME AND ASK.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN THIS ITEM? I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP IF THEY, HE CARES TO SAY ANYTHING OR NOT.
JUST WITH REGARDS TO, I'VE SPOKEN WITH KATHY MANY TIMES ABOUT, UH, FUMIGATING THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND WHEN THE DEMO STARTS TO HAPPEN, THEY'RE GONNA SCATTER EVERYWHERE AND WE DON'T WANT THEM RUNNING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE DID GET A, GET THE, UM, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT 50, 60 YEARS AGO, TESTED.
AND IT CAME BACK NEGATIVE FOR THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND.
BUT AS, AS YOU SAID, PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS, WE'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT TO YOU GUYS, SO, RIGHT.
AGAIN, I I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD OF A DEVELOPER GETTING SO MUCH PRAISE IN A MEETING.
WELL, CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THEY HATED ME AT THE BEGINNING, IT'S NICE TO HEAR THE GOOD STUFF AT THE END.
SEE, THERE'S NOTHING SO BAD THAT IT CAN'T BE TURNED AROUND.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE INPUT WE HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, MOTION DISCUSSION CHAIR.
UH, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER ROSE, ACTUALLY, DID YOU, UH, CHIME IN? WELL, I, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THE MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE, WE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
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A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.IS THE, UH, MAKER OF THE MOTION TO, UH, TO, UH, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WILLING TO WITHDRAW HIS MOTION? YES, SIR.
MY MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.
I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE AT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN, BOTH SIDES.
THIS IS WHEN THE SYSTEM REALLY WORKS.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE 'EM A SECOND OR TWO TO, UH, FILTER OUT.
[Items 3E & 3F]
DOING THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ.THE NEXT CASE IS ALSO TWO-PARTER, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MOMENTUM TATTOO L L C REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION RENEWAL FOR TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT USE, AND A MAJOR WAIVER TO TABLE 7.1 OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
REGARDING THE LOCATION, UH, COULD, COULD WE HOLD IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE,
UH, REGARDING THE LOCATION AND SPECIAL STANDARDS OF A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5 32 MAIN STREET.
I DON'T THINK THE TV'S PICKING UP ALL OF THAT.
ITEM THREE F, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF MOMENTUM TATTOO L L C REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT AT THE SAME ADDRESS.
AND I'LL ASK THIS APPLICANT TO COME UP IF THEY CARE TO, OR IS THE APPLICANT JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GIVE 'EM A MINUTE TO FILTER OUT.
OH, IT IS GOOD TO SEE THE SYSTEM WORK.
ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR MOMENTUM TATTOOING? MR. CHAIRMAN? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? I, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR THIS APPLICANT.
UM, I, AFTER, AFTER LISTENING AND SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE, THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS APPEAR AND POKING MY HEAD INTO THE ESTABLISHMENT, UM, WHEN IT WAS AFTER IT WAS RECENTLY, UH, DONE.
AND YOUR NEIGHBORS LOVE YOU, AND WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT YOU AROUND? UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, AND HOW YOU'RE RUNNING YOUR BUSINESS.
ANYBODY ELSE? AND SINCE THERE'S NOBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, I'LL ASSUME THERE'S NOBODY ELSE.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE APPLICANT DIRECTLY.
I WAS ONE OF YOUR OPPOSERS LAST TIME AROUND.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT ON THE SQUARE.
YOU'VE PROVEN ME WRONG AND I DON'T MIND BEING PROVEN WRONG WHEN IT COMES TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.
I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS AND WISH YOU ANOTHER GREAT 10 YEARS.
SO APOLOGIZE FOR THE TROUBLES, UH, I GAVE YOU, BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T MIND BEING PROVEN WRONG WHEN IT'S FOR THE GOOD.
UH, IS THERE A MO MOTION FOR ITEMS THREE E AND THREE? UH, YES.
HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DODGE IT, BUT YOU CAN'T NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
MY ADDRESS IS 11 9 2 0 STATE HIGHWAY 11, COMBEE, TEXAS.
UH, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A HERE YOU GO.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF YOUR SS U P UH, IF YOU GET 10 TO 15 YEARS, ARE YOU GONNA SELL THE BUSINESS MAYBE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS AFTER IT'S BEEN, BEEN THERE THREE YEARS AND ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS? YOU HAVE AN INTENTION ON SELLING THAT BUSINESS EVER? UH, WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS.
IT, IT'S REALLY NOT GERMANE TO THE, UH, SS U P OWNERSHIP BECAUSE IT GOES WITH THE LAND.
OH, I HAVE COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. DID YOU? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, GO RIGHT AHEAD PLEASE, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
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HE ALRIGHT.I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WAS AGAINST IT THE FIRST TIME AND I WALKED INTO THAT PLACE.
UH, I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN LAST YEAR WAS, OR THREE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK TATTOO SHOPS, WHAT YOU THINK IS JUST, IT'S, I, I DON'T LIKE THE IMAGE YOU THINK OF, OF TATTOO SHOPS, BUT IT HAS DEFINITELY CHANGED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND SHOP'S WAY MORE MODERN THAN OURS COMING UP.
AND IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY CHANGED.
AND I DO APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR GUYS' FEEDBACK ON IT VERY MUCH.
AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, GO AHEAD.
I'M, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST FOR THE 10 YEARS SECOND.
THE MOTION IS SO MADE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, WHO I THINK HAS ALL THE SECONDS TONIGHT FOR THE MOST PART TO APPROVE THIS AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, BOTH ITEMS, UH, THREE E AND THREE F, UH, PASSAGE FOR 10 YEARS.
COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE.
[4A. Election of Officers]
ITEM IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.EVERY FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
WE ELECT THE OFFICES OF CHAIRMAN, FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN AND SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN.
CURRENT OFFICERS ARE COMMISSIONER ROBERTS AS CHAIRMAN.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AS FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AS SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN CHAIR ENTERTAIN MOTIONS COMMISSIONER ROSE OR NOMINATION SAKE I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ROBERTS IS CHAIRMAN.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS IS FIRST, UH, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER DALTON IS SECOND VICE CHAIR.
UH, MOTION BY, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S NOMINATIONS IF YES, YOU NEED SECONDING.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, DID YOU CARE TO SAY ANYTHING OR SHE'S ALSO GONNA NOMINATE, UH, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS AS THE CHAIRMAN.
ARE THERE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE.
WE'LL JUST DO A STRAIGHT VOTE OF FOR CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER ROBERTS FOR FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN.
YEAH, SHE'S, I'M TOO QUICK FOR HER SOMETIMES.
OH, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO LIGHT UP.
UH, YOURS DIDN'T TAKE, THERE WE GO.
AND I KNOW I SAY THIS EVERY TIME, BUT THANK YOU.
AND AS LONG AS I CAN HELP THE CITY, I'LL, I'LL BE HERE.
AND IF YOU GUYS SEE ANY SLIPPAGE, JUST KICK MY BUTT OUT.
WE'LL REMEMBER THAT UHHUH
UH, YOUR COUNCIL PERSON IS NOMINATING SOMEBODY ELSE AND IT DIDN'T TAKE, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WHEN WE'RE LOSING SOMEBODY IS PRESENT 'EM WITH THEIR NAME PLAQUE.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, NOT KNOWING IF THIS IS STILL YOUR LAST MEETING.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SIX YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW HE SERVED ON THE PLAN COMMISSION FOR A PERIOD BEFORE.
THIS IS YOUR, THAT OVER THERE.
NO WONDER WE NEED TO GET RID OF HIM.
UH, YOU'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL SERVANT OF THE CITY AND WE HOPE THAT THIS ISN'T THE LAST WE SEE YOU.
AND I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND I KNOW WE ALL HAVE.
WHY DON'T I JUST GIVE THE MIC? NO, NO.
YOU CAN LEAVE IT HERE AND THEN PICK IT UP IF YOU'RE NOT BACK OR JUST BRING IT WITH YOU NEXT TIME.
IF YOU COME BACK, IT'S UP TO YOU.
YOU'LL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR SURE.
I MAY BE HERE FOR MONTHS, MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO NOW.
WHO KNOWS, IF SOMEBODY SITS DOWN AND TALKS TO HER,
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THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.AGAIN, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
THAT WAS THE LAST NOT AN AGENDA ITEM ON OUR MEETING.
SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 25TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.