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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
THE SEPTEMBER 25TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE STAFF BRIEFS US AND WE ASK QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH.
ONCE WE'VE CONCLUDED WITH THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, WE'LL TAKE A RECESS, BE BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I, I DO HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES, DEPENDING UPON WHETHER YOU ALL GOT AN EARLY COPY OR A SECOND COPY.
I HAD SUGGESTED A CHANGE IN THE MINUTES.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, THERE WERE QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, OH, THE ELECTRIC STATION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL, AND I'D USED SOME DEVELOPER LINGO WHEN I ASKED THE APPLICANT HAS A PHASE ONE BEEN DONE.
AND HE SAID, YEAH, PHASE ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED WHEN IT, I ADDED THE WORD ENVIRONMENTAL, SO I ASKED 'EM TO ADD THE WORD PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SO EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE REAL QUESTION WAS.
PLUS SOMEBODY READING THAT WOULD THINK THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WAS ALREADY DONE.
SO, UH, IF Y'ALL READ THE LAST ONE, WE'RE GOOD AND MINUTES AREN'T OFFICIAL UNTIL WE VOTE ON MANY HOUSE.
SO AS OF NOW, THEY'RE CHANGED THAT.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS THAT WORD REMOVED, JUST LET ME KNOW.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS Z 22 DASH 74.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 17 CONDOMINIUM UNITS IN A TOWNHOUSE STYLE CONFIGURATION.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.99 ACRES, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS MULTIFAMILY.
HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE CEDRIC PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR, AND IT IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY, ONE DISTRICT, AND IT IS INTENDED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS AND A PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS NEEDED, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST ARE ZONED MULTIFAMILY.
ONE DISTRICT, AND THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND TO THE EAST IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, SEVEN DISTRICT WITH SOME SINGLE FAMILY USES.
AND, UM, TO THE SOUTH ACROSS BROADWAY BOULEVARD IS ZONED PD 18 DASH 40.
AND THERE IS A, UH, SHOPPING CENTER AND THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, FUTURE, UH, LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS PROPOSED DENSITY IS 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, THEREFORE THIS COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND YOU, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED THE SECOND HIGHEST REVENUE PER ACRE GENERATOR PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN INFILL LOT AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY USE.
THE LEFT IMAGE IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM BROADWAY, AND TO THE RIGHT IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND TO THE LEFT HERE IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S JUST SHOWING A, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS A TOTAL OF 17 CONDOMINIUM UNITS FOR SALE AND A SINGLE LOT OF RECORD.
AND THE PRIMARY ACCESS IS FROM BROADWAY BOULEVARD.
AND THERE'S ALSO A SECONDARY GATED ACCESS, MAINLY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND DUMPSTER TRUCK.
AND EACH UNIT DOES HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE, THERE'S FOUR, UH, SURFACE PARKING, WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR VISITORS.
AND TO THE BACK OVER HERE, UH, THERE'S SOME LEISURE AREA, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SOME OUTDOOR SEATING, UH, BARBECUE PIT.
UM, AND THERE'S SOME DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UH, WHICH IS THE, FOR THE SWIMMING POOL AND THE CLUBHOUSE.
AND I'LL GO OVER THEM JUST A MOMENT.
IN ADDITION, EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A ROOFTOP AND IT WILL BE LANDSCAPED AS WELL.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UH, THE G D C REQUIRES FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR 40% OF THE SITE TO BE LANDSCAPED.
AND THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS 26.3% OF LANDSCAPING.
SO IT IS A DEVIATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
HOWEVER, EACH U EACH ROOFTOP UNIT WILL BE LANDSCAPED AS WELL.
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THE G D C REQUIRES, UH, WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THIS CASE TO THE EAST RIGHT HERE.UM, IT DOES HAVE TO HA UH, BE SCREENED WITH EITHER A, UM, MASONRY WALL OR ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN AND SOME VEGETATION.
UM, BUT THE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT CEDAR WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS ALONG WITH THESE HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE.
UH, IT IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE WOOD FENCE TO THE NORTH AND UM, TO THE WEST.
UM, THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING, UH, SCREENING WALL AND THE APPLICANT MAY REPAIR THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT BELONGS TO THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION THERE.
AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
UH, IT DOES MEET THE ARTICULATION STANDARDS PER THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, UM, THERE'S SIX ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR MULTIFAMILY AND THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING FOUR PER BUILDING, AND THAT IS A DEVIATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
HERE'S SOME THREE D RENDERINGS, AND HERE'S A VISIBILITY STUDY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME DEVIATIONS ON THE SETBACK, UM, OR PARTICULARLY FOR MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS RIGHT HERE, UH, THE SETBACK HAS TO BE 1.25 TIMES THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UH, WHICH IS 37 FEET OVER HERE.
UM, AND THAT CALCULATES TO 46.3 UM, FEET FROM THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE MINIMUM SETBACK TO BE 31 FEET, UM, WHICH IS FROM HERE ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ELEVATION, IT IS A, UM, STAGGERED, UM, UH, BUILDING.
AND THE MINIMUM HEIGHT OVER HERE IS ACTUALLY 24 FEET.
AND THAT 24 FEET IS ACTUALLY 31 FEET AND FIVE INCHES AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, WHICH IS 37 FEET, IS APPROXIMATELY 48 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND HERE ARE SOME DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
THE FIRST ONE IS BUILDING SETBACK, AS I'VE MENTIONED, UH, THE MAX, THE SETBACK IS 1.25 TIMES THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, WHICH CALCULATES TO 46.2 FEET.
AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACK IS APPROXIMATELY 31 FEET AND FIVE INCHES.
AND THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS HAVE A STAGGERED DE DESIGN AND THE HEIGHT CLOSEST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS 24 FEET AND SIX INCHES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 34 FEET AND ONE FIVE INCH AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT.
UM, A CLUBHOUSE THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 2,500 SQUARE FOOT IN SIZE IS REQUIRED ALONG WITH ONE SWIMMING POOL THAT HAS TO BE 800 SQUARE.
THAT HAS TO CONTAIN 800 SQUARE FEET OF SURFACE WATER.
AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROVIDING ANY CLUBHOUSE OR SWIMMING SWIMMING POOL.
AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AMENITIZED OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS PRIVATE ROOFTOP SPACE.
FURTHER DESCRIBED IN THE JUSTIFICATION SECTION.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A SMALL SCALE TOWNHOUSE STYLE CONFIGURATION, AND THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THE CURRENT OPEN SPACE CAN BE OF BETTER USE TO ACCOMMODATE A GRILL PIT AND OPEN GAMES.
UM, AND THIS IS FOR A SMALLER COMMUNITY OF ONLY 17 UNITS.
NEXT ONE IS SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING.
THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL AND SCREENING IS REQUIRED BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE G D C OFFERS ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN, A BERM OR A MASONRY WALL.
AND 40% OF THE SITE NEEDS TO BE A LANDSCAPE.
AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SIX FOOT CEDAR WOOD FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN AND LANDSCAPING ON THE EASTERN PERIMETER.
AND 26.3% OF THE SITE IS LANDSCAPED.
THE PROPOSED FENCING WILL PROVIDE MORE PRIVACY FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THE ORNAMENTAL FENCE ALLOWS FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY AND THE MASONRY WALL WILL NOT LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR LANDSCAPING AND THE REQUIRED DRIVEWAY DEPTH.
IN ADDITION TO THE 26.3% LANDSCAPING, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ALL 17 ROOFTOP UNITS TO BE LANDSCAPED BY 19%, INCREASING THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE TO 45.3%.
AND THE NEXT DEVIATION IS BUILDING DESIGN.
SIX ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ARE REQUIRED FOR MULTIFAMILY DESIGN, AND THE BUILDING ELEVATION SHOWS FOUR ELEMENTS PER BUILDING.
AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THIS DEVIATION TO MAINTAIN THE MODERN CONTEMPORARY DESIGN WITH
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STRONG HORIZONTAL LINE, LARGE GLAZING AND FLAT ROOFTOP DESIGN.AND THE BUILDING ELEVATION REFLECTS RECESSED ENTRANCES AND AWNINGS TO ACCOMMODATE SOME TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR MULTI-FAMILY, ONE DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE AND APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
WE RECEIVED ONE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST 16 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST.
UM, AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 17 RESPONSES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ON THAT, UH, CITIZEN FEEDBACK, UH, USUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CONCERN WAS, UH, STORM RUNOFF AND USUALLY I WOULD ASSUME THAT CITY ENGINEERING HAS GOT THAT WELL IN HAND.
UM, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED IN THIS AREA BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A THOUSAND FEET TO THE NORTH ALONG BROADWAY, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE GATEWOOD DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES, UH, ENGINEERING HAD NOTED THAT BROADWAY BOULEVARD WAS UNDERSIZED WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
HAS ENGINEERING SIGNED OFF ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WHERE IT'S AT? YES, THEY HAVE REVIEWED THE SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS.
UM, SO THEY HAVE, UH, REVIEWED ALL OF THAT AND THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF ON IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE, WELL, ONE THING ABOUT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND CONTEMPORARY DESIGN.
IT'S NOTED FOR LACK OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND MORE FOR MASS AND, UH, THAT KIND OF THING.
ARE THE DIVIDED LIKE WINDOWS, ARE THEY COUNTED AS ONE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS? I, I, I BELIEVE THEY TYPICALLY THEY ARE, I'D BE WILLING TO GO DOWN TO THREE IF THE APPLICANT WOULD WANT TO LEAVE THAT OUT OR DO A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.
'CAUSE UH, ON CONTEMPORARY IT'S USUALLY CLEAR GLASS AND NOT DIVIDED LIGHTS, SO THEY MAY WANNA GO THAT ROUTE, SO I'D BE WILLING TO GO THREE ON THAT.
AS FAR AS THE MASONRY WALL GOES, ONE OF THEIR ARGUMENTS IS THAT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR MASONRY WALL AND LANDSCAPING IT.
THE DRAWINGS SHOW THE BOTTOM HALF BEING MASONRY AND THE UPPER HALF BEING, UH, THE WOOD WALL.
SO I GUESS THERE IS ROOM FOR IT.
SO, AND THERE IS MASONRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, AND I'M THINKING OF THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THE MASONRY WALL WOULD HOPEFULLY LAST LONGER IF NOBODY HITS IT.
AND, UH, AND MY DRAINAGE QUESTION HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHTY.
OH, UH, BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, ITEM THREE A AND THREE B, THEY'VE REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT AND I'M ASSUMING THAT POSTPONEMENT CAME IN AFTER PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED AND BEFORE THEY COULD BE RE NOTIFIED.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE TO POSTPONE THAT ITEM ACCORDING TO OUR BYLAWS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A CAR WASH, A AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.204 ACRES, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PD 19 DASH 22 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.
HERE'S THE CITY OF I LOCATION MAP, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR.
UM, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED PD 19 DASH 22, AND ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN ZONED AS PD 19 DASH 22, UM, FOR THE QUICKTRIP TRAVEL CENTER GAS STATION.
UM, ALL THIS WAS IN THE NORTH.
IT, IT IS EXISTING ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY.
AND THIS PROPERTY, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
UM, AND IT REQUIRES A, UM, DETAILED PLAN THROUGH FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND S U P FOR THE CAR WASH USE AND TO THE EAST IS ZONE PD 22 DASH 16, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED, UM, AND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS BOB TOWN ROAD, UM, PROPERTY ZONE, COMMUNITY, RETAIL, AND AGRICULTURAL.
THERE'S A CHURCH AND A GAS STATION AND TO THE WEST ACROSS BOP TOWN, UM, THE OTHER BOP TOWN.
UM, IT IS OWN COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT AND THERE'S A PARKING LOT.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLANT DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS BUSINESS CENTER AND BUSINESS CENTER IS INTENDED FOR BUSINESS OFFICES OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS STYLE DEVELOPMENT THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOYS LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OPERATIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TYPE IN OCCUR INTERNAL TO BUILDINGS, RESULTING IN MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACT.
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AND PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO WHETHER CERTAIN AUTOMOTIVE RELATED USES SUCH AS A CAR WASH AND SIMILAR STANDALONE COMMERCIAL THAT REQUIRE ZONING CHANGES OUR BEST USE OF LAND AT THIS LOCATION.THE PLAN RECOMMENDS BEING SELECTIVE ON LAND USE REQUEST REQUIRING REZONING SUCH AS SUVS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS LEFT IMAGE IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SIDE EAST FROM BOB TOWN.
AND TO THE RIGHT IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SIDE NORTH.
AND THAT'S, UM, WHERE THE QT IS.
UH, LEFT PICTURE IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE SIDE ACROSS BOB TOWN.
AND OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT IS A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING EAST DOWN ABOUT TOWN.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH, UH, SHOWS A, UM, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH THAT WILL BE 4,363 SQUARE FEET AND SIZE.
UM, AND IT, THE VEHICLES WILL ENTER FROM HERE AND THEN EXIT, UM, FROM HERE IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR.
AND THEN, UM, THE PROPERTY CAN BE ACCESSED FROM BOB TOWN, UH, THROUGH MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT.
AND OVER HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME VACUUM SPACES, UM, AND SOME PARKING SPACES, WHICH ALL COMPLIES WITH THE G D C STANDARDS.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR THE G D C.
AND HERE ARE THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS AND NO DEVIATIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A 30 YEAR SS E P.
THE S E P TIME PERIOD GUIDE RECOMMENDS A RANGE OF 25 TO 30 YEARS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE S E P FOR AN AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE PD 19 DASH 22 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND DENIAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR AN AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE STAFF FINDS THIS PROPOSED USE INCONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STRATEGIC PLAN, AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEARBY APPROVED AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ALLOWS OTHER LAND USES SUCH AS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT, WHICH INCLUDES RETAIL STORES, RESTAURANT, AND GENERAL OFFICE USE.
AND WE MAILED OUT 26 LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER PARIS? JUST A ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS AND, AND ONE OF 'EM I DID GET, UH, A RESPONSE BACK, UH, VIA EMAIL WHEN I INQUIRED ABOUT, OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, I DID THANK, SO THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH, UM, THE PRESENTATION AND I, UM, DID INQUIRE ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE COMP, THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE LAND USE, JUST TO BE SURE THAT I WAS REALLY CLEAR ON, UM, THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEN THE COMP COMPATIBILITY OF, UM, THE USE OF LAND.
AND SO, UH, THERE, HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION WITH A DIFFERENT, UM, OPPORTUNITY IN THAT SPACE OR THAT AREA THAT MAY BE SOMETHING FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT JUST BECAUSE IF THERE IS A NON-COM COMPATIBILITY FOR THE LAND USE, THEN I WOULD JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN TO THE, THE DEVELOPER.
I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH STAFF EARLY IN, IN THE PROCESS BEFORE EVEN SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION.
UH, BUT WE HAVE TOLD THEM ABOUT OUR CONCERNS OF THE CAR WASH USE, UM, VERY EARLY ON.
UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS I GUESS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS ON THE QUICKTRIP? WAS THAT A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL? APPROVAL AND THAT IS SOMEHOW A MORE ACCEPTABLE USE RIGHT HERE THAN A ROLLOVER CAR WASH? I MEAN, THAT'S STAFF'S POSITION, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
UM, NOW THAT'S GREAT QUESTION.
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I THINK THAT HAVE KIND OF CHANGED, UH, BETWEEN THEN, UH, AND, AND WITH THIS PROPOSAL ONE, UM, BEING THAT THE NEARBY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE EAST STONE HAWK, UH, WAS JUST APPROVED LAST YEAR, THAT WAS, UM, KIND OF BETWEEN THE QUICK TRIP AND, AND THIS PROPOSAL.SO THAT IS ONE KIND OF NEW CONDITION THAT WE CONSIDERED AS, AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, OF COURSE BEING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS NEW, IT JUST CAME ABOUT THIS YEAR.
UM, IN FACT THAT WAS EVEN, THERE WAS A CAR WASH THAT HAD BEEN IN THAT PROCESS AS THIS, THAT PLAN WAS BEING FORMULATED.
AND THEN WITH THAT NEW CONDITION, STAFF HAD KIND OF, UM, SHIFTED THE, THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT PLAN.
BUT THO THOSE, THOSE TWO KIND OF NEW, UM, CONDITIONS, IF YOU WILL, WILL NEW INFORMATION, UH, WERE, WERE PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION? YES, SIR.
I GUESS I, I JUST, I MEAN, THE QUICKTRIP, DESPITE WHAT WAS PROMISED TO CITY COUNCIL IS 100% ABSOLUTELY A TRUCK STOP DESPITE BEING PROMISED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE.
AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT IS HARDLY, UH, A MORE DESIRABLE USE THAN A, UH, WHAT SEEMS TO BE A VERY COMPLIMENTARY USE OF HAVING A, A CAR WASH NEXT DOOR.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CAR WASHES THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO, TO FUEL CENTERS LIKE THIS, SO, OKAY.
UH, MR. GARIN, I THINK, I THINK YOU SAID AS WELL THAT, UH, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE IS A CAR, A PROPOSED CAR WASH THAT IS TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UH, 1.3 OR SO MILES AWAY OR MAYBE EVEN CATTYCORNER, UH, BROADWAY OR SOUTH OF I 30? IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM.
THAT WAS, UM, GOSH ENTITLED SOME TIME AGO.
ANYTHING ELSE? I MAY BRING A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BACK UP ABOUT THE QUICKTRIP.
UH, SOME OF YOU WEREN'T HERE, BUT I'M SURPRISED WE DIDN'T GET FEEDBACK.
'CAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THE QUICKTRIP AND A LOT OF IT WAS BASED UPON THE TRAFFIC THEY WERE GONNA HAVE IN BOB TOWN.
AND I EVEN ADVOCATED ELIMINATING THE DRIVEWAY FROM QUICKTRIP TO BOB TOWN.
AND THIS IS, UH, AND THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED, ALL THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA GO OUT INTO BOB TOWN.
AND SO FOR THAT ALONE, I DON'T THINK THE USE IS QUITE PROPER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT'S IT.
THIS IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, HAS RECOMMENDED A G D C CHANGE AND HAS DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING FORWARD, UH, THIS G D C CHANGE.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, ZONING RELATED, IT DOES REQUIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEW BY THE PLAN COMMISSION, UH, FOR RECOMMENDATION.
THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FORMAL, UM, FORMAL CONSIDERATION, UH, DURING A REGULAR MEETING.
UM, SO THE, THE REQUESTED CHANGE, UH, FROM, UH, THE COMMITTEE, WHICH, UH, ALSO WENT TO THE COUNCIL'S WORK SESSION LAST MONDAY, UH, SEPTEMBER 18TH, THE COUNCIL DID, UM, UM, GIVE THE THUMBS UP TO THIS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND AGAIN, DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
UM, THE RECOMMENDED CHANGE IS TO AMEND THE, UH, CHAPTER TWO LAND USE MATRIX OF THE G D C, UH, REGARDING SPECIFICALLY THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO NO LONGER ALLOW MINOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR BY RIGHT, BUT INSTEAD BY SS U P.
SO THOSE WOULD THEN BE CONSIDERED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, UM, FOR ANY REQUEST IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
AND OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, SUVS GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, THROUGH PLAN COMMISSION AND, AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, MINOR AUTO REPAIR HAS BEEN A FAIRLY PREVALENT, UM, PERMITTED USE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
UM, AND, UM, JUST, UH, ACTUALLY I'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS ON THAT, BUT THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF MINOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR.
UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING, BUT JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT, IT, IT'S, UM, YOUR, YOUR QUICK LUBE, UM, STATE INSPECTION, UH, TIRE SHOP TYPE BUSINESSES, UM, TO GIVE A FEW, UM, NATIONAL KNOWN BRAND EXAMPLES, JUST EXAMPLES ONLY, BUT THAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR JIFFY LUBES, YOUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, UM, PLACES LIKE THAT WOULD FALL UNDER MINOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU HAVE MORE LOCAL KIND OF MOM AND POP TYPE TIRE SHOPS AND MINOR REPAIR SHOPS AS WELL, WHERE YOU GET INTO THE MAJOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED, UM, IN ANY FORM IN COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
THE MAJOR IS, UM, YOUR COLLISION REPAIR, UM, BODY WORK, UH, PAINTING, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE THE MAJOR.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DELINEATION.
UH, THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THE LAND USE MATRIX.
SO THE CHANGE WOULD JUST BE THIS SS SAY A TURNING.
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IT'S A P RIGHT HERE.CR IS COMMUNITY RETAIL, UH, AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MINOR.
SO JUST BE CHANGING THAT FROM A P TO AN S.
AND THE USE WOULD STILL BE, WOULD REMAIN ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE MORE INTENSIVE, UM, UH, HEAVIER COMMERCIAL AND, AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THE CHANGES ONLY FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON, ON KIND OF THE, THE INITIATION OF HOW THAT STARTED IN COMMITTEE.
I MEANT TO MENTION THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES EARLIER, BUT THE CONVERSATION STARTED, UH, IT WAS SENT TO COMMITTEE, UH, A A CONCERN ABOUT, UH, FORMER CAR WASHES CONVERTING TO MINOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR BUSINESSES, UM, WHICH, WHICH WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES.
AND, AND SO WHEN BEING DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE, WE DID, UH, GIVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES AND SEVERAL OF THEM WERE INDEED IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
SOME OF THE OTHERS WERE IN THE MORE INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, AUTOMOBILE REPAIRS MAYBE TO BE EXPECTED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT, UM, BUT THAT, THAT IS KIND OF WHERE IT STARTED.
AND THEN IT BECAME KIND OF ZEROED IN ON THAT COM ZONING DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL, AND ADDRESSING THAT.
AND AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED CHANGING THAT TO S UP.
THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 2,500, UH, ACRES OF LAND IN GARLAND ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL, UH, OR A PD WITH COMMUNITY RETAIL BASED ZONING.
UH, AND THIS IS PER THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT ABOUT 953 ACRES OF LAND IN GARLAND, UH, CONTAIN AUTOMOBILE RE RELATED BUSINESSES.
NOW THAT INCLUDES AUTO SALES, THAT, THAT COMBINES AUTO, UM, REPAIR AND AUTO SALES, AS WELL AS, UM, KIND OF VEHICLE STORAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH JUST A FEW JUST QUICK SNAPSHOTS OF THE ZONING MAP.
UM, I DIVIDED INTO KIND OF, OF NORTH CENTRAL AND SOUTH GARLAND, BUT WHERE YOU SEE, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP WHERE YOU SEE THE RED COLORS.
THAT IS CR, THAT'S COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING, UH, AND AS WELL AS THE RED KIND OF HASH MARKS.
THOSE ARE PDS WITH, WITH CR COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING.
BUT JUST KIND OF GIVE A SNAPSHOT ON THE, UM, THE PRESENCE OF COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING.
YOU SEE THE RED THERE AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF IT, UH, IF NOT IN MOST CASES, UH, IT'S ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL IS VERY COMMONLY FOUND ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THOSE YELLOW, THOSE KINDA LIGHTER YELLOW COLORS ARE YOUR, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS NORTH GARLAND.
UH, I'LL KIND OF WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
THIS IS, UH, KINDA THE CENTRAL SOUTH, CENTRAL PART OF GARLAND AND SOUTH GARLAND.
AND REALLY I'LL, UM, PAUSE THERE.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? AGAIN, Y'ALL MAY RECALL ABOUT A YEAR AGO UP AT THE LOWE'S ON ONE 90, UH, AND THE AUTO REPAIR STORE WENT IN THERE WHEN, OH, COMMISSIONER, SORRY TO JUMP ON YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, AN AUTOMOBILE STORE IS GOING IN THERE.
AND I, I KNOW FULLY WELL THAT RICHARD FERRARA, WHO MASTERPLAN THE WHOLE AREA AROUND THE MALL, DIDN'T ATTEND THAT, BUT THAT WAS A COUPLE ITERATIONS AGO OF HER ZONING ORDINANCE AND SOME USES COMBINED AND SOME, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS COMBINED IN USES.
AND SO, AND THAT'S HAPPENED IN, THERE IS A CAR WASH THAT, UH, WE FOUGHT OVER ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO DOWN ON BROADWAY, JUST ON EAST SIDE OF 30, NO, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF 30, AND IT'S TURNED INTO A TIRE SHOP NOW.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
9 53 INTO 25 70 IS LIKE 37 OR 38%, AND THAT MAP DOESN'T QUITE LOOK LIKE IT'S 37%.
UM, SO, BUT, BUT ANY RATE, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE EXISTING, UH, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING ON THOSE DISTRICTS THAT WILL FALL WITHIN THIS? TO BACK UP A LITTLE CLARITY, I'M SORRY.
AND THESE, THESE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE MIXED WITH ONE ANOTHER.
THE 953 INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF AUTO THAT INCLUDES SALES REPAIRS.
SO SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUSION THERE.
WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF SPECIFICALLY FOR REPAIR WITHIN THAT 953.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION? HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT'LL BE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGE OF, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, THEY WOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED LEGAL NON-CONFORMING, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
I'M LOOKING FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING.
THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN AND EXIST, BUT ANY, UM, EXPANSION, UM, OF, OF THE USE OR, UM, ABANDONMENT AND, AND A RETURN OF THAT USE WOULD BE, UM, SUBJECT TO AN SS U P PROCESS.
YEAH, AND THAT GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.
SO AN OWNER COULD SELL TO ANOTHER AND STILL HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S SIX MONTHS ABANDONMENT.
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WHAT'S THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS IF IT'S PASSED HERE AND PASSED BY? THE COUNCIL PASSED? I BELIEVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE THE, UM, THE DATE OF THE PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THIS, THIS G D C AMENDMENT.SO WHATEVER THAT DATE IS, WHEN COUNCIL PROVES THE FINAL ORDINANCE, WHICH WE TYPICALLY FOR G D C AMENDMENTS PUT ON THE SAME AGENDA AS THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHERE ZONING CASES, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY COME BACK TWO WEEKS LATER, BUT IN MOST CASES WE WILL USUALLY HAVE THE ORDINANCE PREPARED, UM, THE SAME NIGHT AS THE COUNCIL'S, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, THIS IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER, UH, THE 17TH, THE COUNCIL DATE, 17TH OR 18TH.
I BELIEVE IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THEIR SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.
IT LOOKS APPEAR TO BE THE END OF OUR WORK SESSION PORTION, SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE ARE IN RECESS.
[Call to Order]
BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER 25TH MEETING OF THE GOLAND PLAN COMMISSION.IS THIS OUR CUSTOM? WE COMMISSIONER, START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE? YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.
TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY OUR BRAND NEW COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SMITH.
PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS AND JOIN ME IF YOU WISH.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT.
AS BE BEGIN OUR MEETING, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE OUR HEARTS AND MINDS IN THE SPIRIT OF FAIRNESS, RIGHT THOUGHT AND RIGHT SPEECH.
AS WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS HERE TONIGHT, PLEASE WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR OTHER CITY STAFF, AND WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER THE APPLICANTS AND THEIR TEAMS AS THEY COME TO GARLAND TO MAKE THEIR MARK.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY WELCOME COMMISSIONER ROBERT SMITH.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN HIM.
HE HAD A PREVIOUS LITTLE LOWER JOB ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SO HE'S STEPPING UP HIS GAME HERE AT THE COMMISSION.
ALL RIGHT, A LITTLE AGENDA ITEM, UH, ITEMS THREE A AND THREE B, THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ABRAHAM TEMA.
THEY'VE ASKED THAT ITEM TO BE POSTPONED TILL OCTOBER 9TH, AND WE WILL BE TAKING A, A VOTE AS TO WHETHER TO DO THAT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON AND REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE.
I'LL READ THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION OR ANY AUDIENCE WILL WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW.
ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 MEETING.
ITEM TWO, A PLAT 23 DASH 33 CREEK VIEW, RESIDENCES EDITION, PRELIMINARY PLATT.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS UNDER CONSENT.
ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? SEEN, APPROVED, SEEN NONE.
COMMOTION BY, UH, MOTION, NOT COMMOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
SEE NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM'S ON OUR AGENDA.
[Items 3A & 3B]
THREE, A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ABRAHAM, UH, TIMA REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PROVISION ITEMS 3, 2 3 B.CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF ABRAHAM SIMA REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE.
THEY HAVE ASKED US TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TILL OCTOBER 9TH MEETING.
DO I HEAR MOTION TO DO SO? SECOND.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO OUR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING.
[Items 3C & 3D]
ITEM IS A TWO-PARTER ITEM THREE C.CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF NET INVERSION L L C REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MULTIFAMILY MF ONE DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF ONE USES MULTIFAMILY.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5 3 2 4 BROADWAY BOULEVARD.
IN ITEM THREE D, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF NET INVERSION L L C REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME ADDRESS.
I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON IT.
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THE APPLICANT HERE.DID YOU CARE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING? AND I'LL ASK YOU TO BEFORE YOU GO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND I NEED, AND SOME OF THE GROUND RULES ON SPEAKING.
UH, WE ALLOW APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
WE DO NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE MICROPHONE, OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES AND THEN AFTER THAT WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND MAYBE ADD ANYTHING ELSE IN.
ALL RIGHTY, WELL, HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS FEDERICO PANDA, UH, OWNER OF F CITY SCIENCE.
I LIVE ON THREE 90 EAST OAK WALL, APARTMENT 1 34, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 2 0 3.
UM, I THINK THE STAFF MADE A GREAT JOB, UH, PRESENTING THE PROJECT.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THE S THAT WE ARE REQUIRED, UH, REQUESTING OR IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY CLARIFICATION ON THE PROJECT, WE'RE DEFINITELY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
FIRST IS THE CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR CHOICE AND AMENITIES AND THAT OVERALL DESIGN.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS? OKAY.
SO, UM, THE CLIENT APPROACHED ME AND THE DESIGN CAME FROM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY NARROW LOT AND IT'S ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, SUCH AS PROVIDING A FIRE LANE TO PROVIDE ACCESS, UH, INTO THE LOT, AND THEN SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
ONCE WE STARTED PUTTING A LOT OF, UH, THESE ITEMS INTO CONSIDERATION, WE REALIZED THAT THE SPACE THAT WE WERE HAVING FOR THE FACADE BECAME KIND OF MINIMAL.
AND IN AN EFFORT TO PRESENT A DIFFERENT STYLE OF HOUSING, WHICH IS THIS KINDA, UM, TOWN HOME STYLE CONDOMINIUM, WE HAD TO START KIND OF BUILDING A LITTLE BIT UP FROM FIRST FLOOR TO A SECOND STORY.
AND WE ENDED UP ON A THIRD STORY.
WE STARTED RUNNING INTO SOME ISSUES, UH, WITH A SETBACK TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, SITE BECAUSE AS PER THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN PLACE, UH, THE RATIO BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE HEIGHT IS, UH, ONE TO ONE TO 1.5.
AND SO ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING ON THAT IS THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THAT RATIO AT ALL.
WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT WE CAN CREATE A STAGGERED DESIGN THAT IS, AS IT BUILDS HIGHER UP, IT'S STAYING AWAY, IT GOES FARTHER OUT FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE RATIO STILL APPLIES TO THE ONE TO ONE POINT 25.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY THAT IN REGARDS TO WHY THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING IS IN PLACE, UH, AND WHY IT HAS A STAGGER DESIGN THAT KINDA GOES HIGHER AS YOU GO FARTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROXIMITY SLOPE COMES IN THAT MAYBE HE WAS SHOWING THAT LINE SHOWS THE ONE TO ONE TO FIVE, UH, RATIO, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ALWAYS BE BELOW THAT.
SO AT ANY POINT ON THAT HEIGHT WE'LL BE WITHIN, WITHIN CODE, WE JUST CAN'T BE JUST THE BUILDING
AND THE IDEA FOR THE LANDSCAPING ON, ON THE, ON THE TOP FLOOR, UM, CAN YOU HELP ME VISUALIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER? YEAH, THAT ACTUALLY COMES FROM ONE OF THE PILLAR, UH, OF ARCHITECTURES FROM LAKE
RESIDENTIAL, A LOT OF TIMES TOWN HOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SITE HAVE A FRONT YARD.
THEY HAVE A BACKYARD, AND WHEN IT COMES TO CONDOMINIUMS, THEY'RE VERY ASSIMILATED TO APARTMENTS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE, UH, BACKYARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY MAY HAVE LIKE A BIKE ON HERE.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT, LIKE TAKING THAT SPACE THAT WE'RE TAKING FROM THE LANDSCAPING AND ADD IT INTO THE ROOFTOP DESIGN, WHICH ACTUALLY END UP CREATING A FLAT ROOF DESIGN ITSELF.
AND IT GOES AWAY FROM YOUR TRADITIONAL, UM, VALLEY AND AND HIP ANDRIDGE DESIGN.
AND SO THAT'S A WAY OF TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME PATIO SPACE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE, UH, OCCUPYING THE UNITS.
BUT THERE COULD BE A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH MAIN MAINTENANCE OF THE UNITS? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, THERE IS GONNA BE AN H O A IN PLACE THAT IS GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE LANDSCAPING, BUT THE PATIOS ARE PRIVATE, SO THOSE WILL BE, THOSE ROOST OF PATIOS BELONG TO EACH ONE OF THE UNITS.
THOSE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ACCESS STORE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW IT ON AN ACCESS GATE THAT IS COMING FROM LOBBYING LANE TO CREATE A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS FOR FIRE TRUCKS FOR TRASH PICKUP.
WE DON'T WANT PUBLIC TRAFFIC JUST TO RUN THROUGH IT AND HAVING THE NEIGHBORS HAVING TO USE THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY TO GET OUT OF, UH, OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
BUT DEFINITELY FOR EMERGENCIES AND FOR SERVICING, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE PROVIDED IN THERE AND ALL THAT IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE H O A FEE, UH, THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL, WILL PAY.
SO EVERYTHING AROUND EACH UNIT IS COMMON, COMMON AREA.
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THE SPEAKER? UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU TREATED THE RESIDENCES, THE WAY YOU LAID IT OUT WITH THE BUILDINGS AWAY AND THE STAGGERED DESIGN WORKS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY I KNOW IT'S MEASURED AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT YOU'RE THAT DISTANCE AWAY WHERE THE HEIGHT ACTUALLY IS.UH, IN THE WORK SESSION, I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT DIVIDED LIGHT IN THE WINDOWS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO LEAVE THE DIVIDED LIGHTS OUT FOR THE MORE CONTEMPORARY LOOK.
AND CAN YOU TELL ME DIVIDED LIGHTS? Y YEAH, THE MULLIN AND THE GLASS DIVIDING THE GLASS.
SO THE STYLE FOR THE WINDOWS, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADJUST.
AND ANY COMMENTS THAT COME INTO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WE CAN TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN IT COMES FROM, I WAS TRYING TO OPEN IT UP FOR YOU AND THOUGHT MAYBE WE GO INSTEAD OF FOUR DEVIATION, UH, INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF, UH, FOUR ARCHITECTURAL ALMONDS, DROP IT DOWN TO THREE AND THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU THE OPTION OF, UH, DOING A MORE SOLID LOOK WINDOW, WHICH I, I'M AN ARCHITECT BY TRADE.
SO IT, IT WOULD BLEND IN WITH THE, UH, CONCEPT OF CONTEMPORARY MOLD.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THE ARTICULATIONS FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THINGS SUCH AS LIKE FRONT PORCHES AND DORMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED WITH THESE STYLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT.
SO WE WANTED YOU TO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE AS ITS OWN, UH, MODERN STYLE ARCHITECTURE.
AND SO WE THINK THAT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE COMES CERTAIN ELEMENTS THEMSELVES, SUCH AS ROOF OF PATIOS, TERRACES, UH, AWNINGS.
THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT PART OF THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF ARTICULATION WHEN IT COMES TO REDESIGN ITSELF.
SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS? YEAH, I'M SORRY MR. CHAIR.
UH, THIS ACTUALLY QUESTION'S GONNA BE FOR STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.
IS THERE SUFFICIENT LIGHTING ON THE SIGN? I KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SORT OF IDEA, UH, PREVIOUSLY THAT THERE'S NOT, UH, A GUIDANCE FOR THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTING THAT'S NEEDED, MAYBE THE DIRECTION.
I BELIEVE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN WAS REVIEWED, BUT THE, UM, YEAH, THE, THE G D C, IT, IT FOCUSES A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, ON MAXIMUM LIGHTING, ENSURING THAT IT'S NOT SHINING ONTO, UM, OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UM, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT COMMON AREAS THAT DO NEED TO BE LIT, UM, OR LIGHTED, UM, COMMON AREAS, UH, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN PAST TRAILS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO TRY TO AVOID, UM, DARK AREAS.
BUT, UH, YES SIR, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD, UM, LIGHTING CONCERNS WITH THIS REVIEW.
AT
THAT'S A LOT OF THE ENTRANCES THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMING INTO THE UNITS OTHER THAN THE CORNER UNITS.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO LIGHT UP THAT, UH, HALLWAY THAT IS HAPPENING FOR THE ENTRANCES AND THE DRIVEWAY AS WELL, WITHOUT PUTTING SO MUCH LIGHTING THAT WILL
WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT WE HAVE ON ONE SIDE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S A PRETTY LARGE GAP BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND ALL THE TIMES THAT IN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, THAT'S CONSIDERED KIND OF LIKE A PUBLIC AREA MORE THAN ANYTHING.
SO I WANNA BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL TOWARDS OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WE'LL BE CAREFUL WHEN WE DESIGN THAT.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.
MOTION DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR? COMMISSIONER DALTON WHOOP.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS A VERY TOUGH PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S AN INFILL, IT'S AN ODD PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR COMING UP WITH WHAT I THINK IS A VERY GOOD SOLUTION FOR PUTTING SOMETHING THERE.
SO OBVIOUSLY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE, UH, THESE TWO ITEMS AS PRESENTED.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE IN ZONING AND APPROVE THE DETAIL PLAN, UM, PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, PLEASE VOTE.
[Items 3E & 3F]
IS ANOTHER TWO-PARTER.CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF E D G ARCHITECTS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN AUTOMATED SLASH ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 19 DASH 22 FOR COMMUNITY
[00:45:01]
RETAIL USES.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 2 4 9 BOB TOWN ROAD AND ITEM THREE F, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF E D G ARCHITECTS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED PLAN FOR AN AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE.
AND I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S CARD HERE.
UH, KEN RO HI, MY NAME IS KEN RO.
MY SON IS PASSING OUT A PACKET TO EACH OF YOU.
UM, LET ME FINISH HERE THOUGH.
MY ADDRESS IS 8,400 SUNSET BOULEVARD, 74 0 3 ETTE, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 8.
UM, THE PACKET'S PASSING OUT, IT'S A SAMPLE OF A FLYER THAT WE MAILED OUT TO 9,000 RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO SEE THEIR TAKE THEIR TEMPERATURE FOR CAR WASH IN THAT AREA.
UM, ALSO IN THE PACKET THERE'S UM, WE WE SPOKE TO, UH, SOME HOAS IN THE AREA AND ONE OF THEM IS A LETTER OF A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PRESIDENT.
AND, UH, THE FOLLOWING PAGES THERE IS, UM, PETITIONS, UM, OR SURVEYS ASKING THE MEMBERS IF THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND, UH, THEY WERE IN OVERWHELMING, UM, SUPPORT OF IT.
SO, AND WE ALSO, UM, OPENED UP A, A FACEBOOK PAGE INVITING THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO, UM, GIVE US FEEDBACK ON IT.
AND, UH, WE, WE MAY, WE HAD ONE NEGATIVE RESPONSE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE.
UM, THE, THE FOLKS THERE ARE JUST INTERESTED.
THEY DO WANT A CAR WASH AND THEY SEE IT AS A GOOD PLAN FOR THE AREA.
UM, SOME POINTS I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT WE, WE ARE FAMILY OWNED.
UM, AND THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
UM, WE, I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST A, A TAX BASE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.
WE WOULD BE A TAX BASE PLUS AN ASSET.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, AND THIS IS KIND OF AMAZING, UM, OUR, OUR PRESENT CAR WASH IS IN ROYCE CITY.
UH, BUT WE ACTUALLY LIVED IN DISTRICT THREE.
WE LIVED ON MCCARTNEY RIGHT OFF OF GUTHRIE, AND MY CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL AT TOLER LYLES AND LAKEVIEW CENTENNIAL.
SO I DO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE AREA.
UM, WE, UH, UM, WE, WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT, UM, OUR CAR WASH AND THE COMMUNITY IN ROY CITY.
WE DO SEVERAL FUNDRAISERS, UM, AND WE ALSO DO HOLIDAY EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THERE'S THAT, ONCE AGAIN, I STRESS THAT WE WOULD BE AN ASSET FOR THE AREA.
UM, AS I SAID, WE HAD OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO THESE FLYERS.
UM, THEY, PEOPLE WANT THIS TO BE BUILT.
THEY WANT A CAR WASH, BUT THEY WANT, REALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS THEY WANT RENEWAL IN SOUTH GARLAND.
YOU KNOW, THEY SEE IT HAPPENING IN NORTH GARLAND IN OTHER AREAS, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY WANT RENEWAL AND THEY WANT JOBS.
AND WE WOULD HIRE TEENAGERS FROM THE SCHOOLS.
THEY CAN WORK ON THE WEEKENDS.
WE, UH, ALSO HIRE ADULTS, UM, AND EVEN RETIREES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE RETIRED THAT DON'T WANNA STAY RETIRED FOR SOME REASON.
SO, UM, WE, UM, I THINK WE WOULD BE A REAL CATALYST FOR RENEWAL IN THAT AREA.
I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER BUSINESSES BROUGHT IN.
UM, THE, OUR, WE'VE SUBMITTED OUR PLANS AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AND OUR LANDSCAPING IS VERY NICE AND WE, A LOT OF FOLKS THERE BROUGHT UP, UH, THE, THE, THE LION STREET PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S BEEN ON THE DOCKET FOR A WHILE.
AND, UM, I'M SURE WHEN IT'S DONE, IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.
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THEY ALL WANT BIKE PATHS AND OTHER ITEMS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BLEND SEAMLESSLY AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH OURS.UM, OUR LANDSCAPING, WE WILL HAVE A TREE LINED AREA ON BOB TOWN ROAD, AND I THINK IT'LL BE VERY NICE.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT FOR US.
WE, UM, OUR CAR WASH, IT'S VERY WELL LIT AND AT OUR EXISTING CAR WASH IN THIS ONE AS WELL, WE WOULD HAVE, UM, SEVERAL CLOSE CIRCUIT TV CAMERAS.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE, THE CITY OF ROYCE CITY.
WE PROVIDE THEM WITH, UM, VIDEO FOOTAGE, UM, WHENEVER THEY ASK.
SO THE, UM, SAFETY WOULD BE, UM, PARAMOUNT FOR US.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
COMMISSIONER PARIS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING US, UH, THROUGH, UH, THE REASONS THAT, UH, YOU WANT TO, UH, BRING THIS, UH, THIS TO GARLAND AND THEN, UM, THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN, IN ROY CITY.
AND I DID, UM, DO, DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND, AND SO I UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN, UM, I'LL LET MY MY FELLOW, UH, COMMISSIONERS HERE ANSWER, UH, ASK SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO I MAY COME BACK WITH MORE, BUT ONE OR TWO OF, UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU FOR CLARITY IS, UH, THIS IS A, UH, OUTDOOR, OUTDOOR ROLLERS AND, AND VACUUMS, ET CETERA, THAT WILL BE EXPOSED OUT.
SO IT'S NOT INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
IS THAT A CORRECT ASSESSMENT OF IT? NO, THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL AN EXPRESS TUNNEL.
UH, THE, UH, PERSON PULLS UP IN THEIR VEHICLE, THEY STAY IN THEIR VEHICLE, AND ALL THE WRAPS AND THE ROLLERS ARE INSIDE OF OUR TUNNEL AND THEIR VEHICLES PULLED THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY PULL INTO THE VACUUM AREA WHERE THEY, THEY FREE VACUUMS OKAY.
UM, AND I'M ASKING, LET ME GIVE A PREMISE OF WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE I, 'CAUSE I, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE CITY CODE OF 2.45 ABOUT COMMUNITY RETAIL AND DISRESPECT TO, UM, THE, UH, LEVEL OF I AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND WHAT THEY WOULD EXPERIENCE.
AND SO JUST GETTING A GOOD, A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THO THAT EQUIPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, NOT INTERNAL, INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, YEAH, THE, OKAY.
BULK OF THE EQUIPMENT IS INSIDE.
EXCEPT FOR THE VACUUMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, ONE THING, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IT THROUGH, UH, THE, THE, UM, THE WORKING SESSION, UH, EARLIER AROUND, UM, ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS WAS THERE, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK THIS QUES, UH, QUESTION EARLIER IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC ASSESSMENTS OR THAT NATURE, AND I'M STILL JUST GOING BACK TO GREAT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
SO THOSE ARE S SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, THE REASONS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
UM, WELL, AND, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, THE, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT WILL USE THIS WILL BE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA OR DRIVE BY THAT AREA ANYWAY, ON THEIR WAY TO WORK OR COMING HOME AS WELL AS, UM, FOLKS THAT GET GASOLINE AT THE QUICK TRIP THERE.
SO, UM, WE, UM, OUR PROPERTY IS AS SUCH THAT FOLKS PULL IN AND THEY ARE ON OUR PROPERTY AND THEY STAY ON OUR PROPERTY TO WHEN THEY USE THEIR VACUUMS AND WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY EXIT AND LEAVE.
SO WE, WE, UM, A SEVEN 11 WOULD CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC THAN US.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MINIMAL, UH, MINIMAL IMPACT TO TRAFFIC YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UH, I'LL GIVE, UH, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO INQUIRE AS WELL.
SIR, HAVE YOU HAD A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE AND READ THE STAFF'S REPORT, UH, ON YOUR, YOUR APPLICATION? UM, I HAVE.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? UH, ONCE AGAIN, AND I SEE WHY YOU'RE DENYING IT.
YOU HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THIS AREA, THE I 30
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CORRIDOR.UM, AND, UM, I, I SEE, AND THE REASON I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WAS I SEE IT ALL STARTING WAY OUT AT SAPPHIRE BAY.
UM, AND IT'S SPREADING THIS WAY INTO GARLAND.
SO A FLUENCY IS SPREADING THIS WAY.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK I WILL BE AN ASSET AND THAT AREA WILL GO THROUGH RENEWAL AND IT WILL BE, UM, UH, IT, IT'LL BE BEAUTIFUL.
AND THAT'S MY ANSWER TO THEIR, THE, THE DENIAL.
AND, UH, LEMME GET YOU GOING AGAIN.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, UM, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD? UH, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE.
UM, THIS IS NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SEEN SOME CAR WASHES WHERE THEY'RE COIN OPERATED.
YOU PUT COINS IN AND YOU USE THE WAND.
IT'S, IT'S THE, A MODERN EXPRESS TUNNEL AND, AND NO, THERE WOULD BE NO REPAIRS OR, UH, ANYTHING OF LIKE THAT STRICTLY A CAR WASH.
COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN.
UH, YOU HAVE OUTSIDE VACUUMS IN THIS PARKING LOT THAT IS SOUTH OF THE MAIN TUNNEL.
ARE THEY SELF-CONTAINED CONTAINERS? ARE THEY CENTRALLY VACUUMED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY? UM, YEAH, THERE'S A, UM, A TURBINE THAT FEEDS TO EACH ONE.
SO YOU JUST PULL OUT THE, UH, THE HOSE AND YOU VACUUM YOUR CAR.
EACH ONE IS A SELF-CONTAINED VACUUM SYSTEM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LOUD THESE UNITS ARE? UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT VERY LOUD.
UM, THERE'S ONLY ONE VACUUM, SO IT'S NOT SELF-CONTAINED.
HE MAY BE GETTING CONFUSED WITH COMMISSIONER DALTON.
I SEE ON THE SITE PLAN HERE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE LINES WHERE THE, UH, VACUUMS ARE, IS A ROOM APPARENTLY HAS A CENTRAL VACUUM.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE TWO VACUUM ROOMS, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE DUCTED OVER TO THE VACUUMS. YES.
UM, YEAH, THERE, THERE IS A CENTRAL AREA WITH, WITH HER, THESE, THESE ARE JUST OUTLETS TO CONNECT TO A SISTER CENTRAL VACUUM UNIT.
I, I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
WHAT'S THE HOURS OF OPERATION? UM, IN THE SUMMERTIME WE'RE OPEN, OPEN EIGHT TO EIGHT, AND THEN WHEN THE TIME CHANGES, WE SWITCH TO OUR WINTER HOURS, WHICH ARE EIGHT TO SIX.
AND WE'RE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
ARE THESE VA, IS THIS VACUUM GONNA BE SHUT DOWN IN, IN OPERATIVE WHEN YOU'RE CLOSED? OH, YES.
THEY, THEY TURN OFF WHEN WE'RE DONE.
UM, UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OTHER CAR AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASHES, LIKE YOURS OR IN THE AREA OR WHERE THE CLOSEST ONES ARE? DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? UM, WELL, IN, IN THIS AREA IN GARLAND, UM, BOY, THERE'S A CAR WASH UP BROADWAY.
IT'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MILES AWAY.
UM, AND IT'S NOT AN EXPRESS TUNNEL, UM, IN THE CLOSEST ONES OTHER THAN THAT ARE UP AROUND, UM, FIRE WHEEL, I BELIEVE, OR, BUT THERE, THERE'S NOTHING CLOSE BY.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR YOU, IT WAS ANSWERED.
THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT A QUESTION, THIS IS A COMMENT.
UM, I, AT THE WORK SESSION SAID THAT THERE LOOKED LIKE THERE HAD BEEN ANOTHER CAR WASH CATTYCORNER, UM, THAT WAS, THAT'S YOUR CAR WASH.
YOU'RE ALREADY OUT THERE, UM, UH, SPREADING THE GOOD NEWS OF YOUR COMING, UH, UH, ON GOOGLE MAPS AND FACEBOOK AND THE LIKE.
SO THAT WAS, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS NOT, UH, ANOTHER CAR WASH IN THE AREA, UH, THAT NOT ONE TO BE FOUND FOR ROUGHLY FIVE OR SO MILES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
I'LL ASK A QUESTION, ALTHOUGH I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER.
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ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? NO.VINCENT GERARD, E G ARCHITECTS, UH, SIX, UH, 6 8 2 5.
GREENWICH LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 0 O.
UM, JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, IT'S, WE DO A TON OF CAR WASHES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE DONE, BEEN DOING 'EM FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN THE EVOLUTION OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING.
AND, UM, SO THE, AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE WHO USE VACUUMS, ABOUT 25% OF THOSE, UH, PEOPLE THAT GET THEIR CAR WASH WILL VACUUM.
THE OTHER 70, UH, 5% GENERALLY, UM, MOVE ON.
THESE FACILITIES ARE VERY LOW TRAFFIC IMPACT.
I MEAN, HE ONLY WISHES THAT IT COULD BE A SEVEN 11.
UH, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, UM, THEY'RE VERY LOW.
UM, WE FEEL THAT THE, UH, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS, UH, FACILITY AND QT OR HAND IN GLOVE, YOU KNOW, UM, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS TO, TO THE, UH, I 30 AND SO FORTH, ALSO CAR WASHES, YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE HEAVY IN TERMS OF A LOT OF PAVEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I MEAN, RETAIL CENTERS ARE, ARE VERY, VERY HEAVY.
THEY'RE VERY LIGHT ON LANDSCAPE.
UH, THESE SITES ARE, ARE HISTORICALLY VERY, VERY GREEN.
UH, WE NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEM MEETING THE, UM, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM GREEN AREA.
THEY USUALLY RUN AROUND 20%, SOMETIMES MORE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE VACUUMS PRODUCERS, UM, WE HAVE THESE SURROUNDED, UM, IN A SCREEN.
WE DON'T EVEN PUT THEM IN A SCREEN.
UH, PEOPLE CAN SIT BESIDE THEM.
UH, THERE'S A CAR WASH UP BY WHERE I LIVE IN DALLAS ON FOREST LANE, AND IT'S JUST SITTING OUT THERE AND YOU CAN SIT RIGHT BESIDE IT.
SO THEY REALLY DON'T PRODUCE A LOT OF, UH, NOISE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE BLOWERS ARE CONCERNED, THEY'RE VERY QUIET NOWADAYS.
I MEAN, THE, THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.
THE DB LEVEL FROM THE HIGHWAY IS GONNA BE HIGHER THAN THE DB LEVEL THAT YOU'LL GET FROM ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT.
AND GIVEN THE, THE AREA, UM, THIS SHOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD FIT AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.
AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I WANTED TO ADD.
UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO, TO YOU ANSWER THOSE.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
AND COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, YOU, YOU CHIMED IN? YES.
UH, CHAIRMAN, I, I WANTED TO, I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT, UM, CAR WASHES IN THE AREA BECAUSE I LIVE IN SOUTH GARLAND AND UM, THERE'S A CAR WASH OFF OF I 30 IN GALLOWAY AND IT'S RIGHT OFF THE EXPRESSWAY AND IT HAS THE GAS STATION CAR WASH, NEWLY BUILT CAR WASH.
I MEAN, THE CAR WASH HASN'T BEEN THERE LONG AT ALL, AND THERE'S NOT A REAL IMPACT TO TRAFFIC.
THERE'S A LOW'S ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IN MY OPINION, THIS JUST MAKES SENSE THE WAY THAT IT'S CONFIGURED TO BE WHERE IT IS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, I, I REALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT I COULD AGREE WITH TO DENY IT, BUT I, I REALLY AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S CONFIGURED.
SIMILAR TO OUR CAR WASH IN, IN HOW IT'S HAPPENING, THE ONE OVER ON FOREST LANE IN DALLAS.
THERE'S SEVERAL IN, UM, DALLAS AND WEST DALLAS AND NORTH DALLAS THAT I KNOW OF, THAT I'VE SEEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I'LL, I'LL ADD IN THAT THIS IS ONE THAT, UH, THAT I CAME IN AGREEING WITH STAFF, BUT AS I TELL FOLKS, WE SOMETIMES EVOLVE IN OUR OPINION.
UH, THE PEOPLE WEREN'T OUT HERE, THEY WERE THE LAST TIME.
AND WE DO HAVE SIGNATURES OF FOLKS NEXT TIME, PLEASE GET THEIR ADDRESSES SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT, AND I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE
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USE.IT'D BE NICE, MAYBE HAD SOME FAST FOOD, BUT THEN I THINK THE NEIGHBORS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT TRASH TRAFFIC, LATE NIGHT STUFF, AND THIS MAY BE A MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE AREA AND THERE ARE NO CAR WASHES LIKE THIS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
SO IT'LL BRING A SERVICE THAT'S NEEDED.
SO I'VE CHANGED MY MIND AND I'LL BE VOTING FOR IF THAT COMES UP.
COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN, MR. CHAIR, I, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TOUGH ONES IN A WAY BECAUSE THE REQUE, THE DENIAL REQUESTS FROM STAFF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THIS IS A ROLLOVER CAR WASH.
IT HAS TO DO WITH MORE CHANGES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE CITY.
THE ONE OF THE, THE CLOSER OR THE CLOSEST CAR WASH THAT I CAN THINK OF, AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER PARIS KNOWS WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT.
OFF BROADWAY IN ROSE HILL, UM, IS A FULL SERVICE CAR WASH.
SO YOU GET OUTTA YOUR CAR, THEY VACUUM IT, THEY RUN IT THROUGH, THEY DRY IT, AND YOU DRIVE OFF.
AND EVEN ON A BUSY, BUSY SATURDAY, THEY'RE NOT OUT IN THE STREET.
UM, GRANTED THEY HAVE MORE LANES THAN THIS ONE DOES, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE FULL SERVICE.
SO THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT EXTRA LANE SPACE FOR VACUUMS AND SO FORTH.
UM, LOOKING AT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THEIR RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DON'T SEE A DOWNSIDE TO THIS CAR WASH IN THIS LOCATION.
AS THE ARCHITECT SAID, THESE MACHINES DON'T MAKE AS MUCH NOISE AS INTERSTATE THIRTY'S GONNA MAKE.
AND BELIEVE ME, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT ME 'CAUSE I'M A SOUND GUY.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT ME GOING, IS HE TELLING THE TRUTH? AND YES, HE IS.
THE SOUND COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE IS GOING TO BE MUCH LOUDER THAN WHAT'S GONNA BE COMING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT TUNNEL.
SO I'M GOING TO, UH, AGREE TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BIN AND COMMISSIONER PARIS.
I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPLIMENTARY USE TO THE QT THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GENERATE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE QT I MEAN, I, PEOPLE STOP AND THEY GET A CUP OF COFFEE AND THEY SAY, NOW I'M GONNA DRIVE THROUGH THE TUNNEL.
AND I, I ALWAYS HAVE TO VACUUM MY CAR 'CAUSE I HAVE FOUR KIDS.
BUT, UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE USES HAVE BEEN, I THINK, PRETTY COMPLIMENTARY.
THE ORIENTATION OF THE FACILITY IS SUCH THAT THE, THE TUNNEL WOULD NOT BE FACING DIRECTLY OUT TO WHERE THE, UH, TO WHERE THESE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE DIRECT EXPOSURE TO THAT SOUND.
UM, THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.
I MEAN, I JUST DID A QUICK LOOK.
I, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AROUND THE AREA, BUT JUST DOING A QUICK LOOK.
I, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF COMPETING, YOU KNOW, CATTYCORNER AT THE SHELL, THERE'S ONE OF THOSE, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY COMPARABLE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE GAS STATION AND IT'S ABOUT AS BIG AS YOUR GARAGE AND DRIVE THROUGH IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER F FACILIT, WE GET THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES, NOT INFREQUENTLY FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AND WE OFTEN APPROVE THEM AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS THAT THEY BRING.
OTHER, OTHER FOLKS COME TO US SOMETIMES WITH BIG NUMBERS AND SPREADSHEETS AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE X YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CARS IN THE AREA AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE WASHED THIS OFTEN.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ONE WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAR WASHES ABOUT ON A MILE SEPARATION OR SO GENERALLY DO WELL BUSINESS WISE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'RE FOLKS WHO WANT, YOU KNOW, WE SEE HOW MANY AUTOMOTIVE USES WE WE HAVE AND HOW MANY CARS THERE ARE.
PEOPLE WANNA TAKE CARE OF THEIR CARS.
UM, SO I I, I VERY MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL AND, UM, AND EXPECT TO VOTE IN FAVOR.
IT, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
SO MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AROUND, UM, THE USE OF LAND IMPACT TO NOISE OR RESIDENTIAL SPECIFICALLY TO THE STONE, UH, STONE HAWK, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, AND, UH, THE QUESTION AROUND, UH, I LOST MY OTHER ONE, UM, BUT ALL MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
UH, I AM LEANING INTO, IN FAVOR OF THIS, UM, ALSO WITH THE S U P THAT GOES WITH IT.
THERE'S A 30, UH, 30 YEAR S U P I BELIEVE IT IS THREE POINT, UH, THREE E UH,
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THREE F.THREE F IS THE SS U P, UH, REQUEST.
UH, THREE E IS THE, UH, S U P.
AND UH, THEY DID REQUEST 30 YEAR.
WHICH IS, WHICH IS ABOUT AVERAGE, UH, FOR, UH, THIS TYPE OF, UM, THIS TYPE OF REQUEST.
I'M GOING TO MOVE TO, UH, ACCEPT, UM, THREE E AND THREE F AS, UH, PRESENTED SECOND.
I GOT SAYING COMMOTION MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE ITEMS THREE E AND THREE F THE APPLICATION REQUEST OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR THE AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE.
[4.a. Consider an amendment to the Land Use Matrix of Chapter 2 of the Garland Development Code to allow for Automobile Repair, Minor use by Specific Use Provision in the Community Retail (CR) District.]
ITEM IN OUR AGENDA.IT'S A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM CON.
CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE MATRIX OF CHAPTER TWO OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, MINOR USE BY SPECIFIC USE PROVISION IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
THE COMMISSION WAS BRIEFED ON THIS IN OUR, UH, WORK SESSION.
AND WHAT THE CHANGE IS IS RIGHT NOW THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR MINOR IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN COMMUNITY RETAIL.
THIS WOULD CHANGE THAT TO WHERE IT WOULD BE BY SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE PLAN, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
THE MOTION THAT WE PASS THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.
'CAUSE HE'S CLOSER AS WE NOW SOUND TRAVELS QUICKER.
THAT WAY TO APPROVE THE, UH, CHANGE TO THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
COMMISSIONER DALTON, YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE YET.
THAT'S OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF OCTOBER 9TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.