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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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ALL RIGHT, IT'S ABOUT FIVE 30 AND WE'RE ON THE CAMERA AND NOT A CLOCK.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED OR NOT, BUT THE, AND THE LAST LEGISLATURE, THE STATE DID AWAY WITH THE 30 DAY SHOCK CLOCK FOR PLANS.

SO EVERYTHING NOW IS IN ONE ITEM.

IT'S NO MORE TWO PARTERS, BUT STILL, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION, SAY, PROVE THE ZONING THIS, YOU'D BE IN, IN THE PLAN, AND THAT'LL HELP US OUT.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, FIRST THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? DON'T THINK SO.

ALL RIGHT.

THE FIRST CASE TONIGHT IS A Z 2258.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN S T P AMENDMENT FOR A TRUCK STORAGE FACILITY.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 24 30 DRIVE.

IT IS A 2.609 ACRE SITE, AND IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT S 2028.

NOW, UH, SS 2028, UH, IS CURRENTLY FOR A TRUCK STORAGE, SO THE ZONING ENTITLEMENT DOESN'T EXIST.

THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SURROUNDED BY ALL INDUSTRIAL USES.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA FOR INDUSTRY CENTERS, AND WE DO BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL OFFERS A SUPPORTIVE USE TO THE INDUSTRY EMPLOYMENT SECTOR.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING EAST FROM LO DRIVE, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET LOOKING WEST ACROSS.

HERE'S THE VIEW, LOOKING NORTH AND SOUTH DOWN LONER DRIVE.

HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.

UH, THE CURRENT, UH, S U P 2028 IS FOR 10 TRUCK PARKING SPOTS.

UH, THIS IS FOR 37 TRUCK PARKING SPOTS AND A 312 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE.

HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND THIS DOES INCLUDE MANY EXISTING TREES, UH, ALONG A DRAINAGE EASEMENT OWNED BY THE CITY JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND HERE ARE THE DUMPSTER ELEVATIONS.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS DO COMPLY WITH THE G D C REQUIREMENTS.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH THEIR STATEMENT BEING EVALUATE AND MOVE ON.

POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AND AMENDMENT FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION.

UH, SS 2028 FOR TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE.

STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A PLAN FOR A TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE USE.

THE TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE USE IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR AN AMEN SITE PLAN DOES NOT CARRY A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT

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ON THE SUBJECT'S PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA, AND THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING WILL IMPROVE THE SITE FROM ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

IN ADDITION, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN RECOGNIZES THE NEED IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THE ST.

ORIGINAL S U P 2028, UH, FOR 20 YEARS WAS GRANTED APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, UH, FOR FEWER PARKING SPACES, CONSIDERATION MAY BE GIVEN TO A SHORTER S P TIME PERIOD, UH, UH, RATHER THAN THE NEWLY REQUESTED 20 YEAR TIME PERIOD.

UH, FOR THIS CASE, WE SENT OUT 37 LETTERS AND ZERO WERE RECEIVED.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT, UH, WELL, ONE QUESTION.

IT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR 10.

YES, SIR.

AND I DO HAVE THE, UH, SITE LINE HERE AND BEFORE THEY CAN.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPH AND BEING GONE BY THERE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PARKING MORE THAN 10 RIGHT NOW.

YES, SIR.

WOULD THEY BE PROHIBITED FROM PARKING MORE INTENT UNTIL THEY GET ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS DONE? UH, YES, SIR.

UM, THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD WORK.

SO IT CAN BE ENFORCED UNTIL THE IMPROVEMENTS GET DONE, THEN THEY CAN PUT MORE ON.

YES.

UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING WITH THIS SITE PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN MM-HMM.

, UM, THEN THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO, UH, ENFORCEMENT FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND IF THEY ULTIMATELY DON'T IMPROVE IT, S U P COULD BE RECALLED.

UM, YES, SIR.

THE S U P CAN BE REVOKED, UM, IF THEY DO NOT ACT UPON THIS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

NEXT ITEM IS Z 23 DASH 20.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD A TRUCK SCALE AND A 22 FOOT FREESTANDING SIGN FOR THE TRUCK SCALE.

HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION.

THE ACRES IS APPROXIMATELY 7.29 ACRES, AND EXISTING ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 16 DASH 10.

HERE'S THE CITYWIDE LOCATION MAP, AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR.

IT'S ZONED PD 16 DASH 10 FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, AND IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE, A CAR WASH, FUEL PUMPS FOR VEHICLES AND TRUCK, SEMI-TRUCK TRAILERS, UM, AND A RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH.

AND THIS IS, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CALLED RICKY ROCKETS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENVISION CAR LAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS SITE AS INDUSTRY CENTER INDUSTRY CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF TRADE IN INDUSTRY THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOYS LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE MAY REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAY RESULT IN MORE SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACTS.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.

THE LEFT PICTURE IS VIEW OF THE PROPOSED TRUCK SCALE AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS CURRENTLY PAVED, AND TO THE RIGHT IS VIEW OF THE OVERALL SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM WEST MILLER ROAD.

AND LEFT PICTURE IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND TO THE RIGHT IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

UM, ALL OF THIS IS CURRENTLY EXISTING RIGHT NOW, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THIS PD TO ALLOW THIS TRUCK SCALE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2,202, UH, ONE SQUARE

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FEET IN SIZE, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRUCK FUEL CANOPY AS YOU WHERE MY CURSOR IS.

UM, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS, THE PROPOSED TRUCK SCALE, UM, AND IT'LL, UM, AND THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED FREESTANDING SIGNAGE, UM, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE TRUCK SCALE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME.

HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND ALL THIS LANDSCAPING IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW.

UM, THE PROPOSED TRI SCALE WILL NOT IMPACT ANY LANDSCAPING.

AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED PYLON SIGN, UH, FOR THE TRUCK SCALE.

IT'S, UH, 22 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A DEVIATION TO ALLOW THE THIRD PYLON SIGN.

THE G D D C ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF TWO, WHICH IS CURRENTLY EXISTING, ONE OFF OF, UH, MILLER AND ONE OFF OF JUPITER.

AND THIS IS THE THIRD, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED ON SITE.

AND SO THE APPLICANT, UM, IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION FOR THE NUMBER SIGNS, UH, BUT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE SIGN AREA.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING 81.8 SQUARE FEET AND THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED SQUARE, AND THEY'RE ALSO COMPLYING WITH, WHILE THE EXISTING USE PROVIDES SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO TRUCKS AND GENERAL CUSTOMERS IN THE AREA, STAFF FIND THE PROPOSED TO BE MORE SUITABLE ON A SITE THAT IS APPROVED FOR A TRUCK STOP.

USE THESE SUBJECT PROPERTIES INTENDED FOR VEHICLE FUELING AND WASHING, RESTAURANT, DINING AND RETAIL SERVICES.

AND THE TRUCK SCALE IS A COMPONENT THAT IS TYPICALLY SEEN AT TRUCK STOPS, WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED USE IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 16 DASH 10 TO ALLOW A TRUCK SCALE AND A FREESTANDING SIGN.

AND TWO, A DETAILED PLAN TO ALLOW A TRUCK SCALE AND A FREESTANDING SIGN TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE MAILED OUT 26 LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NOPE, NOTHING.

HELLO AGAIN.

I JUST REALIZED I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING OF THE COMMISSION AND PORTION.

SO IF YOU'RE EDITING THIS, PUT THIS IN THE FRONT, PLEASE.

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UH, THE THIRD CASE TONIGHT IS D 2324.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FREESTANDING SIGNS AND ATTACH SIGNS ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 3 0 5 AVENUE.

IT'S AN 8.99 ACRE SITE, AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OH FIVE 60 AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1219.

UH, THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE GENERAL AREA.

UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE FIRE WHEEL TOWN CENTER.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA FOR REGIONAL CENTERS AND REGIONAL CENTERS, UH, WILL PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES, ENTERTAINMENT, EMPLOYMENT, AND MAY INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS THIS SITE.

HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

UH, THE FIRST PHOTO IS A PHOTO OF THE LEASING OFFICE, UH, LOOKING, UH, NORTH FROM RIVER DRIVE, THE SECOND PHOTO BEING, UH, LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS RIVER FERN DRIVE.

THE NEXT TWO PHOTOS

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ARE LOOKING EAST AND WESTBOUND RIVER FERN DRIVE.

AND THE FINAL TWO PHOTOS ARE OF THE, UH, APARTMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIVER FERN AND HORSESHOE, AS WELL AS THE APARTMENT CORNER AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIVER FERN AND TOWN SQUARE.

UH, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN OF THE FIRST BUILDING.

UM, THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1219.

THAT IS LOCATED AT THE SEC INTERSECTION OF HORSESHOE AND RIVER FERN.

UM, THREE SIGNS ARE PROPOSED ON THIS BUILDING.

UH, THE FIRST IS SIGN A, UM, SIGN A AND SIGN B.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AREA HERE.

AND THIS AREA HERE, THEY'LL BE LOCATED ON THE VERY TOP, UH, FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN THEY WILL BE ATTACHED SIGNS.

UH, THE THIRD SIGN PROPOSED HERE IS A DIRECTIONAL SIGN, UM, LOCATED RIGHT HERE, UM, AT THE CORNER OF HORSESHOE DRIVE AND, UH, RIVER FERN AVENUE.

UM, THE SECOND SITE PLAN, UH, THIS IS FOR THE, UH, MORE EASTERN, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OH FIVE 60.

UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING FOUR SIGNS.

UH, THE FIRST IS THE MONUMENT SIGN SIGN, 81, LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF TOWN SQUARE AND FIRE WHEEL, UM, SIGN C.

UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT SCIENCE D IS LOCATED WHERE THE CURRENT LEASING CENTER SIGN IS.

UM, SO I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IT IS ALLOWED, UM, IN THE PG AND UM, IN THE G D C.

UH, IT'S JUST PART OF THIS SIGN SET, AND WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT OVERALL.

UM, THE FINAL TWO SIGNS ARE SIGN, UH, E TWO.

UM, IT IS AN ATTACHED SIGN ABOUT HALFWAY UP THE BUILDING HERE ON HORSESHOE DRIVE AND FIREWALL PARKWAY.

AND THE FINAL SIGN IS ALSO A DIRECTIONAL SIGN SIGN D TWO LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIVER FERN AND HORSESHOE.

NOW FOR AN OVERVIEW OF THESE SIGNS, I JUST WENT OVER, UM, THIS IS SIGN A, IT IS THE ATTACHED SIGN, AND, UH, HERE IS SIGN B.

HERE IS SIGN C.

UM, THE SIGN THAT I DID NOTE THAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT HERE IS SIGN D ONE, SIGN D TWO IS AN IDENTICAL SIGN.

HERE SIGN E ONE, THE MONUMENT SIGN.

AND HERE IS SIGN TWO.

UH, THE ATTACHED SIGN OF THE BUILDING.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ALL PROPOSED ASSIGNMENTS DO MEET THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'S OH FIVE 60 AND 1219 HAVE SPECIFIC SIGN REGULATIONS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR THE CONDITIONS, UH, FOR THREE, UH, DETACHED SIGNS, SIGNS, D ONE, D TWO, AND E ONE.

THOSE ARE THE, UH, TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS AND THE MONUMENT SIGN, AS WELL AS THE ATTACHED SIGN SIGNS, SEE, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT FOR THE LEASING OFFICE, UM, ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OH FIVE 60 AND 1219 FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT STAFF.

ALSO RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THREE OF THE FOUR ATTACHED SIGNS, SIGNS, A, B AND B TWO ONE'S ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR ON A PROPERTY ZONE.

AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN OH FIVE 60 AND 1219 WERE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THE SIGNS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS PEDESTRIAN AND LOW SPEED VEHICLE TRAFFIC, AND WILL ONLY BE VISIBLE TO THOSE, UH, DRIVING DIRECTLY BY THE APARTMENTS.

THUS NOT IMPACTING THE URBAN STYLE, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING FROM BLENDING INTO THE FIRE WHEEL DOWN SQUARE, UH, CENTER AS A WHOLE.

HOWEVER, STAFF FINDS THE ABOVE MENTIONED, ATTACHED SIGN IS JUST NOT ALIGNED, UH, WITH THE AREA DUE TO THE POSITION ON TOP OF THE BUILDING AND LARGE

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SIZE, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ANY SIGNS APPROVED WILL BE LIMITED TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ONLY AND NOT FOR THE ENTIRE FIRE FIREWALL TOWN CENTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED INDIVIDUALLY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

UH, FOR THIS CASE, WE SENT OUT 32 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ZERO IN RESPONSE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, SIGN E ONE IN THE MONUMENT SIGN.

I THINK IT'S SLATED FOR 49 SQUARE FEET.

YES, SIR.

UH, DO YOU KNOW THE GENERAL DIMENSIONS OF IT, BUT IT JUST LOOKS SMALLER IN THE PICTURE HERE? YEAH.

UM, IT, IT'S INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND IN MY NOTES, I DON'T HAVE IT.

UM, BUT I DO KNOW IT, IT DOES MEET THE, UH, J D C REQUIREMENTS.

GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

TAKE THIS NEXT CASE HERE.

THIS CASE CALLED DIVISION OF LABOR.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

DIVIDING THE WEALTH HERE, , EVERYONE GETS TO HAVE FUN.

UM, THIS IS K Z 23 DASH 34.

UH, THIS IS A REQUEST, UH, BY THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF A, UM, A FOOD PROCESSING FACILITY.

THEY DO PICKLES, PICKLES AND PEPPERS AND PICKLE RELISH, UH, A FACILITY FROM A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED BUILDING.

WE'LL JUMP INTO THE DETAILS HERE.

THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS, UH, 7 51 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL ROAD.

UM, THE ACREAGE OF THE, UM, SUBJECT SIDE IS ABOUT 4.38 ACRES, AND IT IS ZONED WITHIN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, PD 93 DASH ZERO ONE FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, WHICH PRIMARILY DIFFERS TO THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, UH, WHICH REQUIRES AN S U P FOR THIS, UH, LAND USE FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE LAND USE.

SO THAT IS THE, UM, IMPETUS FOR THIS, UM, COMING FORWARD THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

HERE'S A, UH, GENERAL LOCATION, UH, OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND, UM, MORE SPECIFICALLY SHOWN HERE, OUTLINED IN TEAL ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF, UH, INTERNATIONAL ROAD AND MILLER PARK SOUTH.

THE SITE IS CURRENTLY, WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S NOT CURRENTLY VACANT.

I TAKE THAT BACK.

THE, UH, BUILDING WAS JUST VERY RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED AND, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IS WE'RE READY TO MOVE IN.

UM, THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AND PERMITTED, UM, BY WRIGHT.

UM, UH, MET ALL G P C AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS.

UM, THE CONSIDERATION DENIED IS, UM, JUST THE S U P USED TO MOVE INTO THE, TO THE BUILDING.

UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SURROUNDING, UM, PROPERTIES ARE ALSO ZONED INDUSTRIAL OR PD NINE THREE DASH YEAR ONE, UH, FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND, UM, THEY'RE DEVELOPED WITH SIMILAR, UM, DISTRIBUTION, MANUFACTURING, AND OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, UH, THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY FALLS UNDER THE TRANSIT ORIENTED CENTERS DESIGNATION AS SHOWN HERE IN THE STAR.

UM, AND DUE TO GENERAL PROXIMITY TO THE FOREST TUBE PUTTER, UM, STATION, UM, THIS SITE, UH, SHOULD BE NOTED.

IT IS DEVELOPED AS A PERMITTED INDUSTRIAL FLEX BUILDING AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

UH, WE MENTIONED EMPLOYMENT 'CAUSE THEY'LL LIVE, WORK, UM, PLAY, UH, LANGUAGES IS THE WORK, UH, ASPECTS OF IT, IF YOU WILL.

UH, THE PROPOSAL USE ALIGNS WITH THE SURROUNDING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA, UH, IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS AND DOES NOT INHIBIT FUTURE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FURTHER NORTH TOWARDS THE FOREST JUPITER DARTER STATION, WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET AWAY AS THE CROW FLIES.

BUT FURTHER THAN THAT, UM, UH, IF ACTUALLY DRIVING OR, OR WALKING TO GET THERE, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, NOTES THAT PRODUCTION EMPLOYMENT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING TYPES, UM, ARE CONSIDERED AMONG THE, AMONG THE HIGHER REVENUE PER ACRE GENERATORS.

UM, AND IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL

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WOULD KEEP AN INDUSTRIAL, AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURER IN GARLAND.

SO I SHOULD NOTE THAT FIRST PLACE FOODS, UM, THEY ACTUALLY ARE, ARE ALREADY IN GARLAND ON MILLS ROAD.

UM, THEY WISH TO RELOCATE, UH, TO THIS, THIS FACILITY, UM, ON SOUTH INTERNATIONAL ROAD.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT LAST SENTENCE MEANS.

THEY WOULD, UM, STAY IN GARLAND.

IN OTHER WORDS, UH, HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE NEW, UH, NEW BUILDING THERE AND JUST SOME VIEWPOINTS, UM, KIND OF LOOKING FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BUT IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

UM, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED WITH OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTION TYPE, UH, USES.

AND HERE IS THE, UM, SITE PLAN.

UH, AGAIN, THE, THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BUILDING IS ALL, UH, NOW CONSTRUCTED.

THE S U P WOULD BE, UM, SIMPLY MOVING INTO THE BUILDING AND IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UM, THE USE WOULD ALSO BE, UM, UH, LIMITED TO INDOORS.

SO, UM, THE, THE PROCESSING, THE FOOD STORAGE AND ALL THAT WOULD BE CONDUCTED INDOORS.

SO THERE'S NO OUTDOOR PROCESSING OR OUTDOOR STORAGE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS FACILITY FOR FIRST PLACE FOODS, UM, DOES A PROCESSING OF PICKLES, PEPPERS, AND PICKLE RELISH.

UM, AND AGAIN, THEY WISH TO RELOCATE, UM, TO THE SITE.

THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 60 TO 9,000, UH, SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

AND THE SITE DOES HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH INTERNATIONAL ROAD AND MILLER PARK SOUTH, AS WELL AS JOINT ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

THE LANDSCAPING IS NOW EXISTING, UH, MEETS G D C REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

UM, ALL THIS IS PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED, UM, BUT JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, UM, THERE'S KIND OF A THREE D RENDERING OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SS U P TIME PERIOD TO BE VALIDATED FOR 25 YEARS, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE S U P TIME IN PERIOD GUIDE.

AND THERE ARE NO DEVIATIONS FROM THE G D C REQUESTED WITH THIS APPLICATION OR ANY PD D DEVIATIONS EITHER.

UH, RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, BOTH THE, UH, SS U P AND THE PLAN FOR A FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE MAILED OUT, UH, 33 NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON THIS CASE, AND WE RECEIVED, UM, ONLY ONE RESPONSE, AND THAT WAS, UM, AGAINST THE REQUEST AND WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.

WE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY WHERE ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WE APPROVED THE EXPANSION AT THE EXISTING PLACE, AND, UH, AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT, IF I RECALL, THERE WERE SOME OUTSIDE VATS YES, THAT EXISTING PLACE, AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING PROPOSED FOR NEW AND ANYTHINGS OPEN AIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SURE, YEAH, THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY EXPAND ON IT.

THEY'LL BE HERE FOR THE SEVEN O'CLOCK PORTION OF THE MEETING.

UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UM, YES, SIR.

THE, THE EXISTING FACILITY, THE MILLS ROAD DOES HAVE THE OUTDOOR, UH, THAT'S WHERE, UM, PICKLES ARE STORED AS I UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THAT WILL BE INDOORS.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND ON THAT.

SO THE WAY THIS TRANSIT ORIENTED, IF SOMEBODY GETS STUFF THAT THE TRAIN WANTS, A PICKLE THAT THEY CAN WALK ON OVERBOARD.

EXACTLY, YES.

CONVENIENCE.

GOT ONE FIGURED OUT.

OH, WE ARE GETTING EVERYBODY TONIGHT.

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YOU, YOU GUYS HEARD WE'RE GETTING THE SPIRALS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING PLAN, COMMISSION EVENING.

THE APPLICANT REQUEST FOR THIS CASE IS, UH, THE FOLLOWING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, 23 DASH 15 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES TO EXPAND THE EXISTING WALMART GARDEN CENTER AND

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APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE, UM, AGAIN, THE EXISTING WALMART GARDEN CENTER.

SOME DETAILS HERE, THIS WALMART IS LOCATED AT 53 0 2 NORTH CARLAND AVENUE, AND LET ME JUST MENTION THAT THIS IS THE SAME WALMART WHERE, UH, MEDICAL CLINIC, UH, WAS RECENTLY APPROVED SEPARATE PROJECTS THAT OTHER PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE SEPARATE PROJECTS.

SAME APPLICANT THOUGH, UH, BOWLER ENGINEERING, T D X L L C.

HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE WALMART WITHIN THE CITY, AND HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE WALMART.

UH, WITHIN THE AREA, MOST OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED FOR, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL, COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS, PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, ZONED FOR, UH, SENIOR LIVING AND THEN FARTHER SOUTH.

UH, THAT'S THE SITE FOR THE CURTIS CALDWELL CENTER, WHICH IS ON AGRICULTURE.

THIS SITE IS FOR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CENTERS, UH, BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EXPANSION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE SUBJECT SIDE IS CONSIDERED A LARGE FORMAT RETAIL USE.

THE PROPOSAL WILL EXPAND AND ACCOMMODATE EXISTING WALMART, WHICH GENERATES, UH, SIGNIFICANT SELL STACKS FOR THE CITY.

SO, UH, MOVING ON TO THE DETAIL PLAN, UH, BEGINNING WITH THE SIDE PLAN.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE STORE.

THIS IS THE SIDE OF THE STORE.

THIS IS THE PROJECT AREA WHERE THE EXPANSION WILL OCCUR, SOME REP PAVING, RETRIP, NEW CURB, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS IS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EXISTING BUILDING THE STORE, INCLUDING THE EXISTING GARDEN CENTER.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED EXPANSION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SAYING LENGTH AS THE EXISTING GARDEN CENTER.

THEY'RE JUST, UH, EXPANDING OUT, OR, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE EXPANDING ABOUT 20 FEET.

THIS IS THE FRONT, UH, FRONT ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING GARDEN CENTER.

AND THIS IS THE EXPANSION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, EXPANDING ABOUT 20 FEET USING THE SAME OR SIMILAR ORNAMENTAL FENCING, SIMILAR BRICK COLUMNS.

AND THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING GARDEN CENTER.

AND EXPANSION, AGAIN, THE SAME LENGTH AS THE EXISTING GARDEN CENTER.

SIMILAR MATERIAL, SAME MATERIAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PD 23 DASH 15, UH, TO EXPAND EXISTING WALMART GARDEN CENTER AND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED PLAN OF FOR THAT EXPANSION.

UM, AGAIN, FOR THE WALMART GARDEN CENTER, WITH THAT OH, WALMART THING, A LITTLE BIT RUSTY .

WE, UH, MAILED OUT ABOUT 93, UH, NOTIFICATIONS, 93 NOTIFICATIONS, AND WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE.

WE COULDN'T HAVE FORGOTTEN IT.

YES, .

WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE.

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AND I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM.

SO UNTIL OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE ARE IN RECESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S ABOUT FIVE 30 AND WE'RE ON THE ALL RIGHTY.

SINCE WE'RE NOT ON LIVE TELEVISION NIGHT, WE CAN START ANYTIME YOU WANT.

IT'S ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THIS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSION START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER OF PLEDGE.

YOU'RE INVITED TO, UH, JOIN US.

WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION.

NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL.

TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.

YOU CARE TO JOIN ME.

MOST GRACIOUS AND LIVING HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU ON BEND AND KNEE TONIGHT, PRAYING FOR PEACE ON THIS EARTH.

WE PRAY FOR LESS VIOLENCE.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN BATTLES AND WARS BETWEEN COUNTRIES.

WE ASK YOU TO PROTECT THOSE THERE, THE INNOCENCE, ESPECIALLY AS THEY STRUGGLE FOR THEIR OWN EXISTENCE.

FATHER, WE ASK YOU FOR GUIDANCE FOR US AS WE CONSIDER THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ITS CITIZENS.

GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE STRENGTH TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE, AND MILITARIES.

THEY STRIVE TO PROTECT US EVERY DAY.

KEEP YOUR HAND OVER THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.

THESE THINGS WE ASK IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION REGARD INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE PROBLEM.

WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.

UH, LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEWORK HERE.

IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE, COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NA NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS.

AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, THERE ARE SPEAKER CARDS OUT THERE.

FILL THAT OUT, HAND IT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.

SECRETARY AND I, I CAN CALL YOUR NAME.

WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE.

I WILL READ OUT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, ANY COMMISSIONER OR PERSON IN THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

LET ME KNOW AFTER I FINISH READING THEM ALL AND WE WILL CONSIDER IT SEPARATELY.

ALL RIGHT, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 MEETING.

ITEM TWO A PLAT 23 DASH 34 HARRIS HOLLAND, BALL PARK REPL, ITEM TWO B PLA 23 DASH 35 DRAPER GARLAND EDITION, FINAL PLAT.

THOSE ARE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WANTED AN ITEM REMOVED.

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER DALTON.

MOTION THAT WE, THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON FIRST, SUBMIT FIRST, SECOND WAS BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND GO.

I'M NOT SEEING THE TALLY ON HERE.

I'M STILL IN COMPUTER MODE, I THINK,

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OH, THERE WE GO.

PASSAGE UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHTY.

SINCE WE'RE NOT ON LIVE TELEVISION NIGHT, WE CAN START ANYTIME YOU WANT.

IT'S ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND WELCOME

[Call to Order]

TO THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THIS IS OUR CUSTOM.

WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH THE PARENT OF PLEDGE.

YOU'RE INVITED TO, UH, JOIN US.

WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION.

NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL.

TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.

YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, OUR MOST GRACIOUS AND LIVING HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU ON FORBIDDEN AND KNEE TONIGHT, PRAYING FOR PEACE ON THIS EARTH.

WE PRAY FOR LESS VIOLENCE.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN BATTLES AND WARS BETWEEN COUNTRIES.

WE ASK YOU TO PROTECT THOSE THERE, THE INNOCENCE, ESPECIALLY AS THEY STRUGGLE FOR THEIR OWN EXISTENCE.

FATHER, WE ASK YOU FOR GUIDANCE FOR US AS WE CONSIDER THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ITS CITIZENS.

GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE STRENGTH TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE, AND MILITARIES.

THEY STRIVE TO PROTECT US EVERY DAY.

KEEP YOUR HAND OVER THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.

THESE THINGS WE ASK IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, MR. FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION FOR GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.

UH, LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEWORK HERE.

IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE, COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NA NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS.

AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, THERE ARE SPEAKER CARDS OUT THERE.

FILL THAT OUT, HAND IT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.

SECRETARY AND I, I CAN CALL YOUR NAME.

WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA, CONSENT AGENDA, OR ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED, AND WE'LL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE.

I WILL READ OUT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, ANY COMMISSIONER OR PERSON IN PUBLIC WHO WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

LET ME KNOW AFTER I FINISH READING THEM ALL AND WE WILL CONSIDER IT SEPARATELY.

ALL RIGHTY.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 MEETING.

ITEM TWO, A PLA 23 DASH 34 HARRIS BALL PARK REPL, ITEM TWO B PLA 23 DASH 35 DRAPER GARLAND EDITION, FINAL PLAT.

THOSE ARE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WANTED ITEM REMOVED, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER DALTON, THE MOTION THAT WE, THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON FIRST, SUBMIT FIRST.

SECOND WAS BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND GO.

I'M NOT SEEING THE TALLY ON HERE.

I'M STILL IN COMPUTER MODE, I THINK, OH, THERE WE GO.

PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHTY.

ONTO OUR ZONING

[Item 3A. Consideration of the application of Abreham Tessema, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision Amendment for a Truck/Bus Storage use on a property zoned Industrial (IN) District with a Specific Use Provision (S 20-28) for Truck/Bus Storage and 2) a Plan for a Truck/Bus Storage use. This property is located at 2430 Lonnecker Drive. (District 5) (File Z 22-58 ). (This case was postponed from the September 25, 2023 Plan Commission meeting.)]

CASES.

FIRST ZONING CASE ITEM THREE.

A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION ABRAHAM SIMA REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION AMENDMENT FOR TRUCK SLASH BUS STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION SS 20 DASH 28 FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE AND A PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 24 30 LAW.

THIS CASE HAD BEEN POSTPONED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 25TH MEETING.

I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE WOULD CARE TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I GUESS NOT.

UH, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER BIN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I MOVE

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APPROVAL.

OKAY.

A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BIN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE, UH, S U P REQUEST AND THE, AND THE PLAN FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALRIGHTY.

PLEASE VOTE CHAIR.

WHO IS THIS? UH, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

OKAY.

UH, SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE OF HANDS? OH, THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHTY.

ZONING ITEM

[Item 3B. Consideration of the application of CAT Scale Company, requesting approval of 1) an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 16-10 to allow a truck scale and a freestanding sign and 2) a Detail Plan to allow a truck scale and a freestanding sign to the existing development. This property is located at 1910 South Jupiter Road. (District 6) (File Z 23-20)]

THREE B, CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF CAT SCALE COMPANY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 16 DASH 10 TO ALLOW A TRUCK SCALE AND A FREE STANDING SIGN AND A DETAIL PLAN TO ALLOW A TRUCK SCALE AND FREE STANDING SIGN TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1910 SOUTH JUPITER ROAD.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE CARE TO PRESENT ANYTHING? COME ON DOWN.

OH.

GOT SOME CARDS HERE? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHTY.

YEAH.

UH, STEVE GOKEY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HI, MY NAME IS STEVE GOKEY.

UH, 5 1 5 STERLING DRIVE, WALCOTT, IOWA 5 2 7 7 3.

SO YEAH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UH, DENIAL OF THE TRUCK SCALE.

UH, HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE WE DID A GOOD ENOUGH JOB TO, UH, UH, HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW THE INSTALLATION OF A CAT SCALE WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY OF GARLAND.

WE HAVE OVER 2100 TRUCK SCALES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, AND MANY OF THESE ARE LOCATED AT CONVENIENCE STORES, UH, SIMILAR TO SEVEN 11, UH, CIRCLE K RACETRACK, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, RICKY ROCKETS IS.

AND, UH, UH, THEY ALSO CATER TO TRUCKS AND HAVE TRUCK FUEL.

RICKY ROCKETS AND THE OTHERS THAT I MENTIONED ARE NOT TRUCK STOPS.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONVENIENCE STORES THAT HAPPEN TO CATER TO TRUCKS.

UH, THEY SELL FUEL.

UH, THEY DO NOT HAVE SHOWERS.

THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, LAUNDROMAT SERVICES.

THEY DON'T HAVE TV ROOMS, THEY DON'T HAVE LOUNGES.

ALL THE THINGS THAT DRIVERS LOOK FOR WHEN THEY GO TO A TRUCK STOP WHERE THEY HAVE TO, UH, SPEND THEIR OFF HOURS, UH, UH, AND KEEP THEMSELVES OCCUPIED.

SO FIRST, UM, A TRUCK SCALE IS IMPORTANT WITH THE OVERALL SAFETY OF OPERATING A TRACTOR TRAILER.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATES IMPOSE WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT TRUCKING COMPANIES MUST NOT EXCEED WITHOUT STRICT PENALTIES BEING IMPOSED ON THEM, SUCH AS FINES AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS.

THEY ALSO MANDATE HOURS OF SERVICE, WHICH, UH, TRUCK DRIVERS CAN OPERATE HOW LONG THEY CAN OPERATE THEIR, THEIR TRUCKS WITHOUT HAVING, WITH BEFORE HAVING TO TAKE A MANDATED BREAK.

HAVING A CAT SCALE IN GARLAND WILL ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE TRUCK TRAFFIC IN GARLAND AND MAKE DRIVERS MORE EFFICIENT.

CURRENTLY, THE CLOSEST CAT SCALE TO GARLAND IS 12 MILES AWAY, UH, AT A LOCATION, MESQUITE, WHICH CAN BE, UH, TAKE 30 OR MORE MINUTES, UH, UH, DEPENDING ON HEAVY TRAFFIC.

AND FOR SOME OF THEM, WHEN THEY GET THERE AND THEY WEIGH, THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY TURN AROUND AND COME BACK TO GARLAND TO, UH, EITHER GET SOME OF THEIR LOAD TAKEN OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT OR THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT LOAD SHIFTED.

EITHER WAY, THEY'RE RETURNING BACK TO GARLAND, WHERE, WHERE, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T WEIGH IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY HAD TO, UH, GO AND THEN COME BACK.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UH, SAYING IS THAT HAVING A SCALE HERE WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT EXTRA, UH, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THE FACILITY IS CURRENTLY HERE.

IT CATERS TO TRUCKS AND, AND ADDING A TRUCK SCALE TO THE FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO, UH, BRING ADDITIONAL TRUCKS TO GARLAND.

RATHER ONLY HELP OUT WITH THE LOGISTICS OF THE DRIVERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE AREA.

AND IF YOU'RE CONCERN IS THAT TRUCKS WILL BE LINGERING AT THE FACILITY LONGER, WE HAVE A COUPLE APPS, UH, THAT HELP WITH OUR, UH, OPERATION OF OUR SCALE.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IS CALLED AWAY MY TRUCK APP.

AND, UH, THE DRIVER, WHEN HE PULLS ONTO THE SCALE, HE FIRES UP THE APP AND HE GETS AND PAYS FOR HIS WEIGHTS WITHIN 60 SECONDS OF BEING ON THE SCALE.

AND HE'S ON HIS WAY AGAIN, FINDING OUT NOW WHILE HE'S IN GARLAND

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THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HE CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO WHERE HE GOT LOADED AND GET, UH, THE PROBLEM TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE.

HE HAS TO, YOU KNOW, GO MANY, MANY MILES OUTTA THE WAY.

THE SECOND APP THAT WE HAVE IS A, UM, IT'S A LOCATOR APP.

EVERY TIME A DRIVER, UH, PULLS UP THE APP AND LOOKS ON HIS PHONE FOR WHERE THE CLOSEST CAT SCALE IS, WE TRACK THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE DRIVERS ARE AT.

AND THE REASON WE TRACK IT IS SO WE CAN LOOK FOR, UH, PLACING SCALES IN THE MUCH NEEDED AREA.

OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS, THERE'S BEEN OVER A THOUSAND HITS IN THE GAR, UH, CITY OF GARLAND AREA FOR A TRUCK SCALE.

SO, UM, THE NEED IS HERE, UH, IN THE AREA.

IT'S BEEN PROVEN, THE FACILITY IS HERE, AND IT WILL HELP MA MAKE TRUCKS SAFER AND WILL HELP REDUCE DRIVERS HAVING TO RETURN, UH, TO THE AREA, WASTING CRITICAL TIME AND RESOURCES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN, ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

WHAT IS THE, UH, ACTUAL SCALE OF THIS SCALE? OKAY, UH, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, KENT JERSON, WHO IS OUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER IS HERE.

AND SO HE HAS ALL THE LOGISTICS AS FAR AS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE ACTUAL SCALE DIMENSIONS AND SUCH.

AND I'LL HANG OUT IF YOU HAVE SURE.

THANK YOU.

AND NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TOO.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, KENT JERSON CAT SCALE COMPANY 5 1 5 STERLING DRIVE, WALCOTT, IOWA 5 2 7 7 3.

UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE SIZE OF THE SCALE, UH, AT THIS FACILITY, WE'LL BE GOING, WE'LL BE PUTTING CONCRETE BACK INTO WHERE A CONCRETE ALREADY IS.

WE'RE NOT AFFECTING ANY LANDSCAPING.

THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT WAS SIDE APRONS IS 21 FOOT TWO BY 104 FOOT.

THE ACTUAL SCALE ITSELF IS 11 FOOT TWO BY 81 FOOT FOUR.

NOW THAT SCALE IS BROKE DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, AND IT'LL GIVE YOU STEER DRIVE TRAILER AND A GROSS WEIGHT.

SO THEY CAN WEIGH 12,000, 12 34, 30 4,030 4,000 FOR A DRIVE TRAILER OR STEER, STEER, DRIVE, AND TRAILER FOR A TOTAL OF 80,000 POUNDS.

SO FOR THE PROPOSED SITE, THIS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT, UH, IMPROVEMENT.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A VERY, UH, SPECIFIC AREA.

IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC AREA THAT'S AT THE END OF THE FUEL ISLANDS.

I, I BELIEVE YOU SAW SEEN ON THE SITE PLAN.

OKAY.

WHAT, HOW MANY TRUCKS CAN BE ON THE SCALE AT ONE TIME? ONE.

AND SO HOW MANY IN A DAY, LET'S SAY, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD BE SCALED? WOULD, WOULD BE WEIGHED? WELL, THE QUICKEST WE CAN WEIGH A, A TRUCK IS 30 TO 60 SECONDS.

DO, DO WE FORESEE A, A COMPLETE LINE CONTINUOUSLY? NO.

UM, DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE? APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30 TRUCKS A DAY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, UH, THE, THE NEED FOR THE THOUSAND, UH, APPS HITS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR, SO IS OVER A PAST YEAR, OVER, UH, 12 MONTHS.

BUT, UM, UH, THE NEED IS THERE.

AND, UH, YEAH, WE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MORE THAN 30 OR 40 TRUCKS A DAY RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

AND THESE ARE TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA.

THESE ARE NOT COMING FROM OUTSIDE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN.

COMMISSIONER DALTON, ARE YOU GONNA BE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY FOR THIS SCALE? YES.

AND IF THE CITY APPROVES IT, WHAT'S YOUR TIMING FOR HAVING THIS DONE? CONSTRUCTION TAKES A WEEK.

.

UM, WE HAVE PROOFS THAT THIS IS ALL THEY DO.

THEY, THEY COME IN, THEY, THEY'RE SET UP, THEIR TRUCKS ARE SET UP TO DO THIS JOB.

UM, ONE WEEK OF CONSTRUCTION, WE DO TWO WEEKS OF CURE TIME ON THE CONCRETE, AND WE'RE BACK OPEN.

SO THREE WEEKS TOTAL.

OKAY.

TIMEFRAME, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT OPEN BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

ALL RIGHTY.

COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, WHEN THE TRUCKER PULLS ON THIS SCALE, THERE'S A DISPLAY THAT TELLS 'EM WHAT THE WEIGHT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE SPOT OR NO? UH, THE DRIVER, UH, AFTER THE PAVEMENT IS MADE IS SECURED.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUYING THE WEIGHTS.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN BUSINESS, WE'RE SELLING THEM.

YEAH.

SO THE DRIVER, WHAT THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING IS THEY'RE BUYING AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR, FOR A LACK OF BETTER TERMS, IS THAT DRIVER WEIGHS WHAT CAT SCALE SAYS THEY WEIGH

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OR WE PAY THE FINE.

IF THEY GO DOWN THE, THE HIGHWAY AND THEY GET A, A TICKET BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT OR THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T WEIGH WHAT WE TOLD THEM, WE PICK UP THAT, THAT FINE FOR THEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE GUARANTEEING THEM.

OUR SCALES GET, UH, RECALIBRATED EVERY QUARTER.

MOST STATE SCALES OUT THERE ARE LUCKY IF THEY GET IT.

WELL, THEY HAVE TO OTHER LAW BE DONE ONCE A YEAR, BUT THAT'S ABOUT ALL THEY GET.

WE MAKE SURE WE'RE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE SURE THOSE DRIVERS WEIGH WHAT, WHAT WE SAY, AND WE, WE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND WE'LL PAY THE FINE IF THEY GET, IF THEY GET A FINE FOR IT.

YOU SAID THERE WAS ABOUT A THOUSAND HITS? YES, SIR.

IN THE GARLAND AREA, THIS IS PINGING THE PHONES THAT ARE ALREADY SIGNED UP ON YOUR APP, UH, THAT, THAT USE THE APP.

YEAH.

YEP.

SO YOU'RE PINGING THOSE PHONES AND SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

RIGHT.

AND IS THIS THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THESE YES.

THINGS ARE HAPPENING, CORRECT.

IN THIS JUPITER MILLER AREA? OKAY.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROBIN.

THANK MR. CHAIR.

A A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT.

IT JUST, UM, I GUESS IT'S MORE KIND OF THE SUITABILITY OF THE LOCATION, UH, FOR THIS USE.

UM, DO YOU EXPECT THAT IT IS JUST GONNA BE BRINGING, IF YOU GET ALL THESE HITS, ARE WE GONNA BE BRINGING PEOPLE OFF OF 6 35 I PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOW DRIVE TO MOSQUITO, THEY'RE NOW GONNA DRIVE, DRIVE INTO GARLAND AND UP THROUGH INTO THE INTERIOR OF GARLAND, IS A, IS A BETTER LOCATION FOR THIS, SAY, CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY? CORRECT.

TYPICALLY, DRIVERS AREN'T GONNA BE COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE THIS FAR INTO A, A MUNICIPALITY TO WEIGH A TRUCK WHEN THEY'RE ON THE INTERSTATE, BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE ON THE INTERSTATE, THEY'RE ALREADY HEADED IN, YOU KNOW, THE, THEN THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT, THAT ARE MUCH MORE CONVENIENT.

BUT IN THIS DIRECT AREA WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH LOAD ORIGINATION IN ONE AREA, THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVER IS TRYING TO PING AND FIND OUT WHERE THE CLOSEST SCALE IS.

AND NOW, YOU KNOW, I GOT YOU.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A, AN OFFSHOOT OF, OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING ON HERE BETWEEN I THINK THERE'S WHAT A COSTCO DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND, RIGHT.

YEP.

SOME OTHER ONES CRAFT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ARE LOADING TRUCKS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE A COUPLE.

UM, YOU MENTIONED CAT SCALES, THAT'S ONLY YOUR BRAND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SCALES IN THE AREA THAT YOU KNOW OF AND DO YOU KNOW OF THE, ANY PRIVATE SCALES AROUND? I THINK MA PAY MAY HAVE ONE BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CHARGE BY WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, AND SO I THINK THEY WEIGH TRUCKS COMING IN AND GOING OUT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.

I I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INFORMATION AS FAR AS, UH, THAT THERE ARE.

I KNOW IN THE PAST, IN IN OTHER, UH, LOAD ORIGINATION, UH, LOAD ORIGINATING FACILITIES MAY HAVE THEIR OWN SCALE THAT, UH, THEY USE FOR INVENTORY PURPOSES.

UM, A LOT OF LIKE WALMART DISTRIBUTION CENTERS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN, AND THAT'S HOW THEY, THEY, UH, UH, KEEP TRACK OF THEIR INVENTORY BY THE WEIGHT COMING IN AND THEN THE WEIGHT GOING BACK OUT.

SO AS FAR AS, UH, UH, PUBLIC SCALES, I'M NOT FAMILIAR AND, AND MAYBE SOMETHING, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD TO, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS THAT WE DEAL WITH.

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION IS EVERYTHING IS DONE BY THE APP, RIGHT? NO.

UM, THE APP IS ABOUT 50% OF OUR BUSINESS.

UH, THE OTHER IS THAT, UH, IF THE DRIVER AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DRIVERS THAT AREN'T SO SOPHISTICATED WITH ELECTRONICS, UH, THE DRI THE TRUCK WOULD PULL OFF THE SCALE, THE DRIVER WOULD GO INSIDE, PAY FOR THE, THE SCALE TICKET, AND THEN ACTUALLY GET A PHYSICAL HARD SCALE COPY.

YES.

OKAY.

BUT THEY LOCATE YOU VIA THE APP AND EVERYTHING, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

SO THAT SEEMS TO PRECLUDE THE NEED FOR SUCH A HUGE, HUGE SIGN IF, UH, BULK OF YOUR BUSINESS ARE GONNA COME VIA THE INTERNET, WHICH EVERYBODY DOES.

NOW, YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED A 22 FOOT SIGN.

WELL, WHAT THE SIGN DOES ACTUALLY IS A, UM, IS A, UM, UM, HELP ME OUT HERE.

SO, SO THE SIGN, ONCE YOU, YOU'VE REACHED THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, A GENERAL AREA WHERE IT'S AT, UM, WITH THE SIGN, IT GIVES YOU A GOALPOST OF WHERE TO GO THROUGH THE SCALE IS PUT IN.

IT DOES LOOK LIKE A GOALPOST, IT, IT, IT DOES.

UM, AND, AND WHEN, SO WHEN YOU'RE PULLING INTO A LOCATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT CONCRETE AND MORE CONCRETE.

I, I HAVE PICTURES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM OF A SITE WITH NO SIGN AND YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE THE SCALE IS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HELP THEM FLOW IN, KEEP THE FLOW OF THE, OF THE DIRECTION OF THE TRAFFIC GOING.

I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER IT MORE A DIRECTIONAL SIGN BY SAYING CERTIFIED SCALES ENTER ON ONE SIDE AND, AND EXIT ONLY ON THE OTHER.

WHEN THEY PULL ONTO THE SCALE, WHEN THEY'RE ON IT CORRECTLY, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT OUT THEIR DRIVER'S WINDOW IS THE INTERCOM SIGN WITH THE DIRECTIONS OF HOW TO USE THE SCALE PROPERLY.

ON THAT SIGN IS TWO CAMERAS, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE INSIDE,

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IF THEY'RE ON THE SCALE CORRECTLY, MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT WITH YOUR TRAILER OFF TO THE SIDE OR YOU'RE TOO FAR FORWARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A SPLIT AXLE THAT YOU CAN SEPARATE THOSE ON THE, THE DIFFERENT THREE SCALES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

UM, THE, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS ALSO WHAT THE, UH, IS REFERRED TO AS A, A WAY MASTER STATE, WHICH REQUIRES EVERY CASHIER THAT'S, UH, IN THE FACILITY IS A LICENSED WAY MASTER.

SO THE CASHIERS, UH, ARE LICENSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY, WHEN THEY GET A, UH, A WEIGHT FROM OUR CERTIFIED CAT SCALE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THAT WEIGHT AND BUY AND SELL THE PRODUCT THAT'S ON THEIR TRUCKS.

SO, UH, UH, THAT HENCE THE NEED FOR A WAY MASTER INSIDE.

AND THAT, UH, UH, KEN SAID THE, UH, THE, THE, THE CAMERAS INSIDE ON THE MONITORS, THEY CAN TELL THAT THE TRUCK IS PERFECTLY ON THE SCALE PRO APPROPRIATELY.

OKAY.

AND I, I MAY HEAR FROM DOWN AT THE END.

THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL QUESTION.

SO THROUGH THE APP AND EVERYTHING, YOU SELL A SERVICE AND THEN THERE'S STATE, UH, SALES TAX INVOLVED ON THAT SERVICE AT YOUR APP CALCULATES AND EVERYTHING? UH, YES.

UH, TEXAS IS NOT A A, A TAX STATE FOR, UH, WAZE.

OH, OKAY.

LEARNED SOMETHING NEW.

ALL RIGHTY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS CHAIR, ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THE LAST, HOW MANY OF YOUR, UM, CUSTOMERS ARE REPEAT CUSTOMERS? UM, QUITE A FEW.

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I MEAN, DRIVERS LOOK FOR THE CAT SCALE BRAND BECAUSE OF WHAT I EXPLAINED, UH, THAT WE WEIGH, THEY WEIGH WHAT WE SAY OUR GUARANTEE.

AND, UH, UH, SO WE HAVE MANY REPEAT CUSTOMERS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A DRIVER.

YOU KNOW, SOME LOADS, UH, DON'T REQUIRE WAVE AT ALL.

IT'S WHEN THEY GET CLOSE TO THAT 80,000 POUND LIMIT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SOME DRIVERS, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE, THE COMPANY THAT THEY HAUL FOR, OR THE FACILITY THAT THEY'RE HAULING OUT OF MAY ONLY, UH, GET TO LIKE 20,000 POUNDS.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY GETTING, YOU KNOW, THAT MUCH WEIGHT ON THEIR TRAILER.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR IT, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW REPEAT CUSTOMERS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

CLARIFYING QUESTION FROM THE ORIGINATE ORIGINATING SOURCE.

SO HOW MANY OF THE CUSTOMERS WOULD BE AWARE OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? AND, UH, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO, TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A NEED FOR THE, THIS, THE SIGNAGE.

THE SIGNAGE, AS LARGE AS IT IS, THE, UM, THE OVER THE TURNOVER IN TRUCK DRIVER IS QUITE LARGE.

AND, UH, FOR DRIVERS THAT, UH, COME TO THE GARLAND AREA, IT MAY BE THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY EVER COME TO THE GARLAND AREA.

YOU KNOW, SO THEY, THEY, THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A SCALE AT A PARTICULAR FACILITY AND SUCH.

UH, NOW ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THERE, THERE ARE SOME DRIVERS THAT HAVE DEDICATED RUNS THAT GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

UH, YOU KNOW, GARLAND MAY BE ONE OF THOSE POINTS WHERE THEY, THEY MAKE THE RETURN, UH, TRIP QUITE FREQUENT IN A WEEK'S TIME.

SO THOSE DRIVERS WOULD OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A SCALE THERE THAT THERE, THERE WAS A SCALE THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS, UH, WE HAVE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER, MICHELLE MCDOWELL.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MICHELLE, UH, MACK MCDONALD IS THE, THE MANAGER AT RICKY ROCKETS.

SO IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SHE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

I, I SEE NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHTY.

THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? IN NONE COMMISSIONER'S.

MOTION TO COMMISSIONER BIN.

JUST A SECOND.

I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COMMISSIONER BIN, AND I THINK I HEARD THE FIRST SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.

THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW.

COMMISSIONER ROBIN AND COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S OPINIONS ON THIS.

MY FIRST TAKE ON IT, THIS WAS, UH, RICKY ROCKETS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST CASE WE HEARD.

I THINK IT WAS IN 2016 WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, LITERALLY THE FIRST CASE.

UM, AND, AND IT THEN WAS CONSIDERED A REAL BRIGHT SPOT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF VARIOUS SERVICES IN THAT, IN THAT PART OF THE CITY FOR PLACES TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT OR TAKE A CONVENIENCE TYPE STORE LIKE THIS.

AND SO IT WAS VERY WELCOME.

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UH, IT WAS FORMERLY PART OF THE RAYTHEON SITE THAT WAS THERE.

UH, AND WHEN THAT GOT BROKEN UP, UH, THIS CAME IN.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TRUCK BE TRUCK STOPS THAT EFFECTIVELY TURN INTO THINGS.

I MEAN, THIS HAS BECOME, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I WOULDN'T CALL IT A TRUCK STOP.

IT'S MORE, BUT IT IS VERY MUCH IN PART OF, IT'S BECOME AN AMAZON PARKING LOT.

THEY PARK A LOT OF THEIR TRUCKS THERE.

UM, WELL, OKAY, I I HAVE TO ADMIT I HAVEN'T BEEN BUYING RECENT WEEKS, BUT, UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AN ANCILLARY TRUCK SERVICE, AND WE DO HAVE FUELING SERVICES THERE, UM, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN REDUCE OTHER TRIPS THROUGH THE CITY, PEOPLE COMING, PEOPLE DO HAVE TO COME BACK FOR WEIGHING ISSUES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT, UH, MAKES SENSE.

AND IT SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY LOW IMPACT.

IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD, WOULD TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING THAT IT IS, UH, THAT IT IS NOT CURRENTLY.

UM, SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING EVERYONE ELSE'S OPINIONS.

ALL RIGHTY.

COMMISSIONER DALTON, THEN COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I, UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ALBIN.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR, THE DEVICE ITSELF, THE SCALE ITSELF AND ALL THE SIGNAGE AROUND IT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S OUT ON THE CORNER OF MILLER AND SHALLOW.

IT'S BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING AT SOME DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE MAIN ROADS.

UM, A TRUCKER'S GOING TO HAVE TO, IF HE KNOWS THERE'S A SCALE THERE, HE IS GONNA HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO FIND IT.

AND IT'S MUCH EASIER IF HE HAS A SPOT TO DRIVE TO AND GO AHEAD AND GET IN THERE.

SO I TEND TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION FROM THIS ON THIS PARTICULAR JOB.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SMITH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN THROUGH RICKY ROCKETS A FEW TIMES, UH, A LOT OF BOLD COLORS AND BRIGHT LIGHTS AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE SIGNAGE FITS.

IT'S NOT GONNA STAND OUT AMONGST AN OTHERWISE SUBTLE GAS STATION BECAUSE THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT IT IS.

UH, IT MAKES SENSE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT IS GONNA DRAW SOME TRUCKS INTO THE CITY, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF IF YOU'RE ON THE HIGHWAY AND YOU, YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF DRIVING 12 MORE MILES TO HIT MESQUITE OR YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S RIGHT HERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA EXIT AND TAKE THIS ONE.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT, IF YOU STOP AND GET YOUR TRUCK WAGE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA PICK UP FUEL AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA PICK UP SOME FOOD FOR THE ROAD.

AND SALES TAX IS NEVER A BAD THING.

SO, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL STREETS ARE, ARE BUILT SOME SPECIFICATIONS FOR TRUCKING FOR A REASON.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD USE OF THE SITE.

I DO WISH IT WE'RE A BLOCK CLOSER TO THE INTERSTATE, BUT IT ISN'T.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

WE'LL, WE'LL DO OKAY THERE.

SO I, I LIKE THE USE, I LIKE THE, UM, THE LOCATION.

I DID DO SOME MARKET SATURATION RESEARCH, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT OTHER SCALES ARE IN THE AREA.

AND THIS IS, UH, FAR APART FROM MOST OF THEM.

SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD LOCATION HERE, SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHTY.

WELL, YOU'VE SOFTENED ME A LITTLE BIT ON THE SIGNAGE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INPUT THERE.

UH, I WAS THINKING THEY'VE GOT THE CANOPY RIGHT THERE.

THEY COULD PUT SOME SIGNS IN THE CANOPY AND PRETTY MUCH, UH, AFFECT THE SAME USE, BUT, UH, YEAH.

UH, I CAN PROBABLY VOTE FOR THIS ONE TOO.

I'D PREFER THE SIGNAGE BE CHANGED.

IT'S UP TO Y'ALL, NOT ME.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, TYPICALLY, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS NOT JUST BECAUSE OF, OF, OF THE INCREASED IMPROVEMENT TO THE LOCATION.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONTINUALLY MAKE DEVELOPMENT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARTICULAR SITE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS, UM, THE ZONING IN THE AREA GENERALLY, AS WE HEARD THE APPLICANT MENTION IT, UH, PARTICULARLY SUPPORTS THE ORIGINARY, UH, ORIGINATING, EXCUSE ME, USES OF THE SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL AREA.

UM, IT SUPPORTS THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND THAT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE FOR ME TO GET BEHIND.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE VOTING FOR IT.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER ROBIN AGAIN.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

AND WITH THAT, I, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

I THINK COMMISSIONER ROBIN, HE MADE THE MOTION.

I KNOW THAT, AND I THINK I HEARD COMMISSIONER JENKINS MAKE THE SECOND, AND THAT IS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE PD AND A DETAIL PLAN FOR TRUCK SCALE.

YES.

YES.

SO IT IS, THIS IS FOUR TO APPROVE NOW PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU ALRIGHTYY.

AND SOMETHING I FORGOT TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING, WE PROBABLY WON'T RUN INTO IT, BUT, UH,

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APPLICANTS HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP ALRIGHTYY ITEM THREE

[Item 3C. Consideration of the application of Angie Lemus, requesting approval of 1) an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 05-60 and Planned Development (PD) District 12-19 to add attached signs and freestanding signs and 2) a Detail Plan to add attached signs and freestanding signs. This property is located at 305 River Fern Avenue. (District 1) (File Z 23-24)]

C, CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICATION OF ANGIE LEMONS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO FIVE DASH 60 AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 12 DASH 19 TO ADD ATTACHED SIGNS AND FREE STANDING SIGNS, AND A DETAILED PLAN TO ADD ATTACHED SIGNS AND FREE STANDING SIGNS.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, 3 0 5 RIVER FERN AVENUE IS THE, UH, APPLICANT HERE.

COME ON DOWN.

UH, GOOD EVENING, AND, UH, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME'S KURT HOAK.

I'M AT 6 0 5 VICKSBURG COURT IN SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS.

UM, SO YEAH, WE, WE ARE, UM, ASKING FOR, UH, YOUR CONSIDERATION ON SOME SIGNAGE OR, UH, THE, UH, COMPLEX THERE AT FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY AT FIRE WHEEL, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN.

WE'RE LOOKING AT REBRANDING IT TO NAME IT BRIO AT FIRE WHEEL.

UM, REALLY WE'RE ASKING FOR FOUR WALL SIGNS, A MONUMENT SIGN, AND A COUPLE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

UM, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, A LARGE, PRETTY LARGE BUILDING, COMPLEX PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT IT IS AND CAN'T, CAN'T FIND THE LEASING OFFICE VISITORS, UM, CAN GET, CAN GET LOST AND, YOU KNOW, DRIVE AROUND LOOKING FOR IT.

SO WE'RE REALLY, UM, THE WALL SIGNS ARE PRIMARILY INTENDED TO PROVIDE OVERALL BRANDING IDENTIFICATION FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THE PROPERTY, KNOW THAT IT'S BRIO AT FIRE WHEEL, AND THEN THE, THE, UH, DIRECTIONALS ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, ASSISTANCE IN LOCATING THE LEASING OFFICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, CURRENTLY THERE'S, THERE'S A, I BELIEVE A REAL NEED FOR SIGNAGE AT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT, IT CURRENTLY HAS NONE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRESENTATION, MAYBE YOU CAN'T SEE THAT YEAH.

IN THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FOUR STORIES.

UH, THE, UH, PD DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SIGNAGE OVER THE FIRST FLOOR, OVER THE FIRST STORAGE STORY.

I THINK THAT, UH, THE TOP OF BUILDING IT LOOKS PLEASANT.

IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE THAN TRYING TO KEEP THE SIGNAGE DOWN LOW.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE THE, THE STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND IN FAVOR OF THIS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE AREA FOR, FOR THE SHOPS PEDESTRIAN AND SLOW MOVING TRAFFIC, BUT ACTUALLY THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, OR FOR FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING 40, 45 MILE AN HOUR AND, UM, NEED TO KIND OF IDENTIFY WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40 MILES PER HOUR ON THE, ON THE PARKWAY.

SO NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT COM BUILDING COMPLEX IS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE RATIONALE FOR THOSE LARGER SIGNS ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

AND THEN THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE LEASING OFFICE.

UM, IT EXCEEDS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT WE REALLY TRIED TO DESIGN IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE VISIBLE AND, AND ALSO, UM, PROPORTIONAL TO THE BUILDING.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A, A BETTER IMAGE, UM, WITH AND WITH THE BRANDING AND WITH THE SIGNAGE.

AND THIS IS A WALL SIGN AND THIS IS ON THE, UH, AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY, UM, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE HEADED WEST.

THIS IS THE FIRST BUILDING THAT YOU SEE.

AND SO IT, I IDENTIFIES THAT, THAT YOU'VE, NOW, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT THAT SIDE IS, UH, UH, THE BEGINNING OF FIRE WHEEL OF BRIO AT FIRE WHEEL.

UH, THESE ARE JUST SOME OVERALL, WE, WE DID WORK THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS, MAKE SURE THE SIGNS ARE OUT OF VISUAL TRIANGLES, UM, AND THAT THEY'RE LOCATED, UH, OUT OF ANY, UM, ANY AREAS WHERE YOU CAN'T, WHERE YOU CANNOT, CANNOT DIG, UM, IS A MONUMENT SIGN.

AGAIN, FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY.

THIS WOULD BE A LOWER LEVEL SIGN SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW TO TURN AND GO UP TO THE LEASING OFFICE.

AND THEN THE DIRECTIONALS ARE SMALLER AND THEY'RE MORE INTERIOR SIGNS.

THEY ARE MORE ON THE, UM, ON THE SHOPPING CENTER SIDE.

AND AGAIN, THEY, THEY ASSIST IN FINDING THE LEASING OFFICE.

THERE'S ONE AT EACH END.

THIS IS THE OTHER ONE.

THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT THE BEST, UH, DEPICTION OF IT.

THE TREE WOULD BE TRIMMED UP AND WOULD BE FACING OUT.

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UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A OVERALL, THESE ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, AND DRIVE BY THE FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY THERE.

UH, LIKE I SAID, WE LOOKED AT THE VISUAL TRIANGLES AND TRIED TO COMPLY WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE SIGNED ORDINANCE FOR GARLAND.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER, UM, ALLOWING US TO ADD SIGNAGE AND BRANDING AND IMPROVE THE IMAGE OF THE, UH, OF THE OVERALL BUILDING COMPLEX ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER DALTON, THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS ALWAYS KIND OF TROUBLED ME BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SIGNAGE OF NOT KNOWING WHAT THIS PLACE IS.

AND IT APPEARS FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN TONIGHT, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO PRESENT SIGNAGE FOR THOSE BUILDINGS THAT IDENTIFY THE LEASING OFFICE, IDENTIFY THE NAME OF THE COMPLEX.

IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY, HEY, I WANT YOU TO GO LOOK AT THE BRIO OVER ON FARWELL PARKWAY, THEY'D BE ABLE TO FIND IT.

SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION THIS EVENING FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING OVERBOARD WITH THIS AT ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, THEN COMMISSIONER SMITH.

WELL, I'D BE, UH, INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION IF, UH, IT'D BE APPROPRIATE IN ANYBODY WANTS TO STILL HAVE A COMMISSIONER SMITH TO HEAR FROM.

OKAY.

OH, OKAY.

GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS EARLIER.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, SOMEBODY WHO FREQUENTS THAT AREA, UH, I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING THAT COMMISSIONER DALTON JUST GAVE VOICE TO, WHICH WAS, I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THOSE BUILDINGS GOING, I WONDER WHAT GOES ON IN THERE.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GREAT THING FOR WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LEASE SPACE.

UM, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF SIGN B AT ALL.

UH, I THINK IT'S A BIT OVERBOARD AND, AND I LIKE THE, UH, THE DISCRETION THAT STAFF USED WHEN THEY PUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER.

AND SO I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF GETTING ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, BUT MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

UH, LIKE I SAID, SIGN B JUST, AND IT LOOKS WEIRD, IT LOOKS OUTTA PLACE AND I DON'T KNOW, I'D, I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.

BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AGREE, SIGNAGE IS NEEDED.

I WOULD SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS CHAIR.

UH, QUESTION, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGN SIGN B, I'M LOOKING AT SIGN A, UH, EXCUSE ME, SIGN A.

AND SO SIGN A AND SIGN B ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, PRETTY SIMILAR.

UM, I AGREE WITH THE, UM, UH, PROPOSAL AS WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GET, HOW WE REALLY GET FROM A AND B BECAUSE THEY, THEY SEEM REALLY THE SAME TO ME.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LEMME JUST UPDATE, I'M SORRY.

SIGN A IS THE ONE THAT TROUBLED ME.

UM, JUST HAVING THAT BRIGHT RED SITTING ON THE SKYLINE KIND OF THING, UM, LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALMOST 30 FEET ACROSS.

UH, IT'S MORE BILLBOARD THAN IT IS SIGN.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S A, A AND B ARE IDENTICAL IN THAT DESIGN.

THAT WOULD BE WHY I GOT CONFUSED.

SORRY.

IT'S ONLY MY SECOND MEETING , BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE A AND B, UH, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE BILLBOARD THAN IT IS, UH, SIGNAGE.

SO THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BIN.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A HARD TIME PARSING WITHIN A, WITH A PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE OF THE SIGN IS OKAY VERSUS WE'RE NOW GONNA DESIGN AND PERHAPS PICK THE COLOR OF YOUR SIGN.

UM, AND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY INTEND TO PAINT THE BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, AT, AT, AT

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THAT SCALE.

I, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THOUGH.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIGN THAT I'M TRYING TO KIND OF NAVIGATE MY WAY THROUGH THE, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION HERE, THE IMAGES.

BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S FACING, UH, THE ALONG FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM, AND MAYBE I'VE GOT THAT WRONG, BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A, A SIGN AT THAT LEVEL.

UH, AND AT THAT SIZE, UH, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF IDENTITY TO, TO, TO WHAT A FACILITY IS.

UM, AND AS FOR THE COLORING AND THIS AND THAT, I JUST MAY, MAYBE I'M WRONG AND, AND COUNSEL CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I, I JUST FEEL THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, THERE ARE MANY THINGS I'M NOT SKILLED AT, AND PICKING COLORS IS REALLY RIGHT AT THE TOP.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GET INTO COLORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH, , SO I'M INCLINED TO, TO, TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION.

UM, ALTHOUGH I MAY NEED TO, I, I DUNNO WHY I CANNOT FIND, AS I LOOK AT THIS, WHERE EXACTLY THE A AND B SIGNS, UH, WOULD FACE.

BUT YOU WANT, I CAN ASK THE A APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND EXPLAIN WHICH ONE I'M JUST LOOKING AT.

WELL, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, IN OUR PACKET I SEE SITE MAPS AND I SEE IT'S NOT THE CLEANEST GRAPHIC.

OH, THERE'S SIGN A.

OKAY.

UH, NOW I SEE.

RIGHT.

I, I GUESS WHAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO, UH, IDENTIFY IS, IS NOT SO MUCH THE ELEVATIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, STAFF'S GRAPHIC WAS A LITTLE CLEANER.

WE KIND OF, WHAT DO, AND NOW I SEE WHERE SIGN A IS, GO TO OURS IS WHAT, AND I SEE SIGN B, SIGN B I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THAT LOCATION RIGHT ON FIREWALL PARKWAY.

I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO HONESTLY MAKE SENSE TO ME.

UM, SIGN A, I I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THAT.

I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT IS RIGHT ON TOP OF KIND OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER, REALLY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

ALRIGHTY.

COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS.

THANK YOU.

UM, AS I LOOK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND LOOK AT THE SIGNS, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THESE.

WHEN YOU ARE, UM, DRIVING ALONG FIRE WHEEL PARKWAY IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN APPLI, IF YOU'RE SOMEONE THAT'S LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY OR LOOKING FOR THE LEASING OFFICE, YOU NEED AS MANY SIGNS AND YOU NEED AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN AROUND THE BUILDING TO TELL YOU WHERE TO GO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.

I REALLY HAVE NO ISSUES WITH ANY OF THESE.

I THINK THEY'RE, I THINK THE SIGNS WORK, TO BE QUITE HONEST.

I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSE, WITH ALL THAT DISCUSSION, I WOULD MOVE.

WE CL UH, WELL, I ALREADY CLOSED THAT.

I WOULD MOVE.

WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BIN TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.

ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, I'LL JUST ADD MY USUAL 2 CENTS WORTH IN IS, I, I, OH, I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU GO.

FIRST, THANK, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT, UH, REMAINS FOR ME IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS CREATES A BIDDING WAR OF SORTS.

SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY NEW APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN THAT, UH, IMMEDIATE VICINITY, UH, THE SIGNAGE OF THOSE PARTICULAR APARTMENTS MAY NOT BE COMPARABLE TO THIS ONE.

SO I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE MAY BE, UM, BY, UH, PROVING THIS REQUEST MAY BE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, GREAT SIGNAGE WAR OF 2026, BUT .

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY THOUGHT, UH, FOR IT, I TYPICALLY, AGAIN, WAS IN LINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

UM, AND I WAIT TO, TO SEE HOW THIS VOTE PLAYS OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A VALID POINT.

UM, MY OPINION IS WE ARE IN AN INTERNET WORLD, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR APARTMENTS ON THE INTERNET, WHICH LOCATES IT FOR 'EM.

SO LOCATION IS FINE.

AND I LIKE ALL THE NUANCES AND THOUGHTS STAFF PUT INTO THIS REPORT.

THEY LOOKED AT EACH SIGN AND THE MERIT OF EACH SIGN, AND THEY WANT TO GO WITH THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, THE MONUMENT SIGN, AND THE, UH, AND THE LEASING OFFICE SIGN.

AND I, I AGREE WITH, UH, STAFF IN THIS ONE.

AND AGAIN, THE, THE BIG SIGNS AROUND THERE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WILL THE ONE DOWN THE WAY WANT A BIG SIGN UP THERE TOO? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS APPLIED FOR, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE JUST A SECOND.

YEAH, THAT IS FOR THE ATTACHED, UH, PD DISTRICT 1219 ATTACHED SIGNS AND, UH, P PD DISTRICT 0 5 60, THE, THOSE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS ATTACHED AND FREESTANDING

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SIGNS OF MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH THE DETAIL PLAN.

YES.

WITH THE DETAIL PLAN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND THAT PASSES IS FIVE TO THREE, AND I DO NOT HAVE A READOUT OF WHO VOTED AGAINST.

UH, I I DID.

AND COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS IN OPPOSITION.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS

[Item 3D. Consideration of the application of First Place Foods, requesting approval of a 1) Specific Use Provision for a Food Processing & Storage Use on a property zoned Planned Development (PD) District 93-01 for Industrial Uses; and 2) a Plan for a Food Processing & Storage Use. This property is located at 751 South International Road. (District 6) (File Z 23-34)]

ITEM THREE D, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF FIRST PLACE FOODS, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 93 DASH ZERO ONE FOR INDUSTRIAL USES AND A PLAN FOR FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 5 1 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT HERE CARE TO SAY ANYTHING OR COME ON DOWN.

DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS PAT HUN.

I'M AT 7 7 6 4 SHADETREE LANE IN SALINA, TEXAS.

I'VE, UH, SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF FIRST PLACE FOODS.

WE'VE BEEN MANUFACTURING PICKLES AT THE LOCATION AT, UH, MILLS ROAD SINCE 1993.

AND, UH, WITH MY, UNDER MY LEADERSHIP SINCE 2006.

AND WE HAVE A GREAT PROBLEM.

WE'RE OUTTA SPACE.

WE NEED MORE MANUFACTURING.

WE NEED MORE STORAGE.

WE NEED MORE TRUCK BAYS.

MAYBE WE CAN USE HIS, UH, THE NEW ONES.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE ARE IN THE PICKLE BUSINESS.

WE, UH, OUR PRIMARY, UM, BUSINESSES THAT WE SELL TO, RESTAURANTS THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY FREQUENT EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIVES.

SO WE PRIMARILY SERVE THE, UH, FOOD SERVICE TRADE, BUT WE ALSO SERVE RETAIL AND PLAN TO GROW BOTH OF THOSE, UH, CHANNELS OF DISTRIBUTION OVER THE NEXT, UH, HOWEVER LONG THE GOOD LORD KEEPS US HERE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I HAD ONE FROM THE PRE-MEETING AND, UM, AND I SLEPT BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.

BUT WHEN YOUR APPLICATION CAME THROUGH A FEW YEARS AGO, I SEEM TO RECALL YOU HAD SOME OUTSIDE STORAGE OR TANKS OR ANYTHING.

IS THERE, ARE YOU CONTEMPLATING ANY OF THOSE HERE? AND IF SO, ARE ALL ODORS CONTAINED AND EVERYTHING? OKAY? YEAH.

SO GREAT QUESTION.

UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE APPROACHED, UH, THE, THE CITY ABOUT THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE OF FINISHED GOODS, WE WERE GONNA EXPAND OUR PRESENT FACILITY.

UH, THE NEW FACILITY WILL NOT HAVE THE, THE LARGE OUTDOOR VATS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO THOSE WILL NOT MAKE THE MOVE WITH US.

UH, WE WILL, WE WILL BRING IN THE PRODUCT FROM A THIRD PARTY THAT WILL ALREADY BE FERMENTED.

SO THOSE ODORS AND SMELLS OR WHATEVER THAT'S, UH, KIND OF FREQUENT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THOSE WILL NOT BE PRESENT.

EVERYTHING WILL OCCUR INSIDE.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.

ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO, UH, ADDRESS THIS ITEM? AND NONE.

COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER JENKINS APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

MOVE TO RECOMMEND AN APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

EXCUSE ME.

SURE.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FOOD PROCESSING STORAGE, AND, UH, PLAN FOR FOOD PROCESSING STORAGE AT 7 5 1 SOUTH INTERNATIONAL.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC.