Oct 09, 2023 Work Session

I THOUGHT SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION FOR IT.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I SAW A QUESTION COMING FROM OVER THERE.

TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS UNDER FOUR.

, ITEM THREE B SCHOOL ZONE ON MILLER ROAD.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON

[4.a. Discuss and consider parking for bicycles in the downtown area, and provide direction to staff where needed.]

EXCUSE ME.

FIRST UP IS FOUR A.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PARKING FOR BICYCLES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF WHERE NEEDED.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

GOOD EVENING.

I AM, UH, UP HERE WITH, UH, LETICIA, AND WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THIS ITEM.

UM, AND THIS, THIS LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M USED TO .

UH, IT'S .

I DON'T KNOW IF IT LOOKS DIFFERENT TO YOU, THEN OBVIOUSLY IT LOOKS DIFFERENT TO US.

SORRY, THE, THE PRESENTATION'S, THE RIGHT PRESENTATION, BUT THE, THE ACROBAT, UH, MENU HAS CHANGED.

SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE SLIDES WITH THIS ON THE SIDE HERE.

GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT TO, UH, YOUR REVIEW FOR THIS YEAR.

SUPPORT, UH, ONE THING THAT THE, UH, CAN'T DO.

OH, WELL, HE DID BRING HIS PRESENTATIONS, .

WE'RE A GOOD TEAM.

SO, UM, SO COUNSEL, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO, TO DISCUSS, UH, THE, UH, BIKE LOCKERS, UH, DOWNTOWN.

THE LAST WE MET ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL HAD, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS TONIGHT.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY RUN THROUGH, UH, THE IDEAS THAT WERE, WE WERE PRESENTED A FEW WEEKS AGO, JUST TO HAVE A REFRESHER.

UH, THIS, THIS MAP SHOWS THE, UH, EXISTING AND FUNDED, UH, BIKE LOCKER, UH, OR SORRY, BIKE, UH, RACK AREAS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

UM, I'M JUST, JUST GONNA CIRCLE WITH MY CURSOR.

THE, THE ONES THAT ARE COMING IN WITH THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT HERE AT SEVENTH AND STATE.

UM, UH, THERE'S ONE LOCATION UP HERE, UH, ONE LOCATION DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION.

UH, THE BIKE RACKS THAT WERE AT, UH, FIFTH AND MAIN ARE RETURNING.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A NEW RACK AT, UH, SORRY, UH, FIFTH AND STATE, AND THEN MAY 5TH AND MAIN IS GETTING A NEW BIKE RACK.

AND THEN A NEW BIKE RACK WILL BE GOING DOWN AT AVENUE A AND SIXTH STREET.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THREE NEW LOCATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF STATE STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF SIXTH STREET, AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SEVENTH AND, UH, AND MAINE.

UM, SO THOSE WERE THE PROPOSED NEW LOCATIONS FOR BIKE RACKS.

AND THE, THE STATE AND SIXTH STREET LOCATIONS WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY ONE BIKE LOOP, UH, TO PUT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND I HAVE A DIAGRAM HERE TO SHOW YOU AND REMIND YOU WHERE THAT MIGHT BE.

AND THEN, UH, THE LOCATION AT SEVENTH AND MAIN WOULD BE TWO BIKE LOOPS TO GO ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO, UM, DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING AND, AND THE LOGISTICS BEHIND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THOSE INSTALLED.

AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ALSO IS THE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BIKE LOCKERS IN THE DOWNTOWN GARAGE.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

UH, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, THEY START WITH ONE PRIMARY UNIT, WHICH IS THIS ONE HERE ON THE END THAT HAS THIS, UM, THIS SIDE PANEL, UH, WHICH CAN COME AS GLASS OR AS A SOLID PANEL, UM, TO PROVIDE PRIVACY.

AND THEN THESE ARE A MODULAR, UM, MODULAR UNITS THAT CAN BE EXPANDED UPON.

SO BASED ON OUR FIELD MEASUREMENTS, UH, WE DETERMINED THAT THREE OF THESE LOCKERS WOULD FIT IN THE LOCATION JUST ON THE INSIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE FROM THE

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ENTRANCE OFF OF, UH, STATE STREET.

AND, UH, JUST THIS PRESENTATION HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

UH, SO IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, EACH UNIT IS ABOUT, UH, $3,800, THE BLUETOOTH LOCK, WHICH WOULD WHAT BE WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AS OUR LOCKING MECHANISM FOR EACH OF THESE DOORS.

UH, OUR $1,000 PER, PER DOOR, UM, WE, UH, MET WITH THE VENDOR AND THEY, UM, CALCULATED THE FREIGHT TO BE AROUND $2,700.

UH, THE LEAD TIME IS ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS ONCE THEY GET THE PO, THE PURCHASE ORDER.

UM, AND SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ASSEMBLE, UH, WITH INTERNAL EFFORTS 'CAUSE THEY DO NOT PROVIDE THAT, BUT THEY WILL SHIP IT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ASSEMBLE IT.

UH, IT'S A VERY EASY ASSEMBLY FROM WHAT I'M TOLD.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, WE WILL HAVE TO GET ESSENTIALLY THE SOFTWARE THAT GOES WITH EACH BIKE LOCKER AND, UM, OPERATE IT SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME UP AND SCAN A QR CODE WITH THEIR SMARTPHONE, DOWNLOAD THE APP, UM, MAKE RESERVATIONS ON THE, UM, ON THE APP FOR, UM, HOWEVER LONG THE DURATION, UM, THAT IS SET, UH, IS CUSTOMIZABLE, CAN DO MEMBERSHIPS, DIFFERENT GROUP RATES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, IT'S BATTERY OPERATED.

UM, IT COMES WITH THIS, UM, APP, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED FOR A FIVE YEAR ADMINISTRATION, UM, SOFTWARE.

AND SO THIS IS JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT CAN, UH, HAPPEN, SOME POSSIBLE PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, HERE'S ONE DIAGRAM THAT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THE ONE BIKE LOOP ALONG, UH, STATE STREET.

UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THIS, THESE LOCATIONS FOR THE NEW BIKE RACKS, UM, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD GO IN BETWEEN WHERE THESE TREE GRATES ARE, UH, OUT OF THE CLEAR WIDTH SIDEWALK LOCATION IN THE DOWNTOWN, UM, UH, UP AGAINST THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THEN WE WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING IN A, UM, A WHEEL STOP IN THOSE PARKING STALLS RIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT PARKING, UH, IN FRONT OF THAT BIKE RACK.

SO THIS IS WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE ON STATE STREET, AND THIS WOULD BE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON SIXTH STREET.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S AMPLE ROOM FOR, UH, THOSE BIKE RACKS AND, AND TWO, ESSENTIALLY TWO BIKES, UH, BEING ABLE TO BE LOCKED UP THERE.

SO THAT WAS A VERY QUICK, UH, SUMMARY OF, UH, THE LAST PRESENTATION.

UM, UM, I'M OPEN TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING TO BOTH OF YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS, ED AND I MAY HAVE MISSED.

IT SHOULD BEEN ANY DISCUSSION, UH, A WITH DART PUTTING THE RACKS OVER THE DART STATION ON WALNUT, ARE THEY ANY OVER THERE? I DON'T REMEMBER.

I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY, BUT MAYBE I MISSED THOSE TWO.

CAN YOU ALL SPEAK TO THAT? AND I, I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THEY, WE HAVE, THERE WERE A LOT OF DOCK RIDERS WHO HAVE THE BIKES ON THE, I'VE SEEN 'EM ON THE FRONT OF THE BUS.

I'VE SEEN 'EM ON THE TRAIN WHO COME, COME IN.

SO THAT'S WHY I RAISED THAT QUESTION.

AND I DON'T RECALL SEEING ANY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE BIKERS AT EITHER STATION, EITHER TO RAY OR THIS ONE DOWN HERE IN THE MAJOR TRAFFIC.

SO ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAD ON, ON THAT? UH, I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE BIKE LOCKERS THERE.

UH, THEY'RE A DIFFERENT STYLE THAN THIS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT STYLE THAT'S MORE OF A PULL DOWN, UM, STYLE.

UH, SO THIS ONE OFFERS A BIT MORE SECURITY FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

ALRIGHT.

LIKE I SAID, I KNOW YOU WOULD BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DARK DOWNTOWN THAN I DO.

I, I CATCH RAY HUBBARD, SO, UH, I CAN ASK COLIN.

LADY MORRISS, YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT IT.

UH, MY NEXT SECOND QUESTION, SIGNAGE FOR THE LOCKERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE GARAGE.

UH, TELL ME HOW ARE PEOPLE GONNA KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE GARAGE? CAN YOU BRIEFLY SPEAK TO SIGNAGE DIRECT? OH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BASED ON, UH, THE SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING, UH, STANDARDS THAT WE DEVELOPED, UH, IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT ARE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN STANDARDS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.

UH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME SIGNAGE MAYBE ON THE COLUMNS OR ON THE OUTSIDE DIRECTING PEOPLE IN.

UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY STUDIED THAT AS PART OF THIS EFFORT, BUT I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO ADD SOME SIGNAGE.

UH, IT'LL, IT'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THESE ON THE GROUND.

AND, AND TELL ME AGAIN, WE IMPLEMENT AS THE TIMELINE FOR BEING ON THE GROUND WITH SOME OF THE RACKS THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US.

SO FROM THE, FROM REGARDING THE BIKE LOCKERS, WE'RE ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS OUT FROM GETTING A, WHEN WE, FROM WHEN THEY GET THE PURCHASE ORDER.

UM, AND SO DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND HOW WE, YOU KNOW, GET, UM, THE FUNDING IDENTIFIED.

'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.

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AS FAR AS THE BIKE RACKS GO, I BELIEVE WE'RE ON A SHORTER TIMELINE FROM THAT.

UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR, HELEN WILKINSON, WHO'S WORKING ON THE SQUARE, UM, TO GET, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME COMING IN NOW BEFORE THE EVENT ON OCTOBER 14TH, AND THEN THERE'S SOME GOING TO THAT ARE GONNA GET INSTALLED AFTER.

AND SO, UM, THERE, WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH THEIR LOGISTICS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT IN IS READY TO GO FOR OCTOBER 14TH.

UM, SO WE'RE NOT RUSHING ANY OF THE OTHER AREAS, UM, TO GET THAT DONE BEFOREHAND.

UM, SO COULD YOU INCLUDE THAT ITEM DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AND OUR, OUR INITIAL LAUNCH? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND THE WITH THE BIKE LOCKERS YOU MEAN? YES, YES.

I'M, I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERN THEM WITH THE ONES IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE ALL FOLKS ARE GONNA KNOW THAT, THAT THEY'RE THERE, SO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT PRIMARILY THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE INSIDE THE PARKING GARAGE.

PEOPLE WILL NEED DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IF WE CAN DO SOME DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WHEN WE HIT THE GROUND WITH THIS, I THINK IT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL TO OUR PUBLIC.

UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT'S OUR ALL IN ON THIS? I TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT FROM THE DIAGRAM, BUT THE, THE DESCRIPTION, I'M SORRY, DIDN'T QUITE MATCH THE DIAGRAM, SO I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON IT.

I, I, I NEGLECTED TO PUT THE TOTAL ON HERE AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

THE REQUEST WOULD BE 25,000, UH, TO COVER THE, UH, THE TOTAL OF THE, UH, THE BIKE LOCKERS AND ANY INCIDENTALS THAT MAY COME IN AT AFTER THE FACT.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON A, A, A GOOD ESTIMATE FROM THE VENDOR.

UM, SO, AND IT'S WITHIN THAT 25,000.

DO YOU HAVE, HAVE YOU ESTIMATED A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THIS AT ALL? I HAVE NOT, UH, CALCULATED THAT MY, BASED ON THE COST, IT WOULD TAKE YEARS AND YEARS TO GET, YOU KNOW, A RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL MONEY USED AS IN THE, IN THE VENDING TRANSACTIONS.

UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A VALUE ADDED IN CREATING AMENITIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT PROVIDE, UM, VARIOUS TYPES OF USERS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO AND FEEL WELCOME COMING TO DOWNTOWN, UM, THAT MAY NOT HAVE OTHERWISE, UH, FELT LIKE THEY COULD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THEIR, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE BICYCLES, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THERE'S AN INDIRECT, I THINK, VALUE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, YOU'LL GET MORE PATRONAGE OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES BASED ON, UH, PROVIDING AMENITIES FOR BROADER USER GROUP.

BECAUSE I DID SPEAK WITH SOME AVID BIKE RIDERS, PROBABLY NOT ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THEIR BICYCLES, WHICH I KNOW PEOPLE DO.

UM, AND THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, I HAVE LIKE A REALLY GOOD LOCK AND, YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO WEIGH THE, YOU KNOW, THESE BIKE LOCKERS OR JUST A REALLY NICE LOCK AND, AND WHICH, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE OR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IN THIS CASE BOTH.

BUT, UM, IT'S JUST A, A LARGE COST FOR SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH.

SO, UM, AND THE DART LOCKERS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, CROSSFIT, WALNUT, ARE THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC OR ARE THOSE FOR DART WRITERS ONLY? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, EXACTLY.

UM, MY, MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THEY'RE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, UH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IS THERE REALLY REGULATING THAT.

THANKS.

MM-HMM.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NOPE.

UH, COUNSEL WITH THE SIX TO EIGHT WEEK LEAD TIME, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN ANY HURRY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS.

IT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED AFTER THE SQUARES THERE AND, UH, CERTAINLY WITH A PRICE TAG OF 2,520 $5,000, I THINK WE COULD WAIT AND SEE THE, USE THE USAGE OF THE BIKE RACKS THAT ARE DOWN THERE AND REALLY SEE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR THESE VERY EXPENSIVE LOCKERS.

UM, I'M A HARD TIME JUST SEEING THE VALUE, THE ADDITIONAL VALUE, LIKE, 'CAUSE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT ONE OR TWO USERS THAT MAY COME DOWN HERE THAT NEED A SECURE BIKE LOCKER LIKE THAT, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUSTIFY THE $25,000 COST ON THAT.

UH, AND, AND MY, MY OPTION WOULD BE JUST TO WAIT, INSTALL THE U-SHAPED BIKE LOCK RACKS, LIKE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, DETERMINE THEIR USAGE AND THEN RECONSIDER THIS IN THE FUTURE.

UH, COUNCIL LADY MORRIS.

SORRY.

CAN YOU PERHAPS AT SOME POINT, UM, IN THE FUTURE BRING US BACK ALTERNATE LOCKERS, THE KIND THAT ARE LESS COOL, UM, MORE MANUAL THAT WOULD COST LESS, AND KIND OF GIVE US A COMPARISON POINT FOR THAT? I LIKE THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY COOL, BUT, UM, I'D ALSO, UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE HOW WELL USED THEY ARE, UM, AND SEE WHAT THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL IS FOR MORE MANUAL ONES.

UM, YEAH, AND I AGREE THAT WE'RE NOT IN A, A HASTY RUSH FOR, FOR THE LOCKERS SINCE THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ON THE WEEKEND.

BUT, UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBER LUXE COMMENT, UM,

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UM, WHEN YOU WERE DOING YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS, UH, WHAT AREAS WERE THE, ARE THESE POPULAR IN, THEY HAVE TO SELL THESE TO SOMEBODY? UM, IS IT AROUND COLLEGES OR IS IT IN A MORE METROPOLITAN AREA THAN GARLAND? UH, WHAT WOULD BE, SO THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES OF, UM, YEAH, MORE BICYCLE CENTRIC COMMUNITIES.

UH, THAT, THE EXAMPLES THAT I SAW, AND I COULDN'T NAME OFF NECESSARILY A BUNCH OF CITIES, UH, UH, HOWEVER, I MEAN THERE IN THE EXAMPLES THAT I DID COME ACROSS, UM, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WERE NEAR TRANSIT CENTERS.

UH, SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL, THESE WILL BE AROUND HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS, NEAR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, IDEA IN, IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND, YOU KNOW, BEING A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA, T O D AREA.

UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, A CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD JUSTIFY USING THESE.

AND SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT I SAW, THEY HAD, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A PARKING GARAGE, A A WHOLE AREA DEDICATED TO THEM.

UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM MORE IN, IN, LIKE I SAID, BIKE, BIKE CENTRIC COMMUNITIES, LIKE IN THE NORTHEAST, HEAVILY DENSE DENSIFIED DEVELOPMENT AREAS OR IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE JUST MORE INCLINED TO, TO BIKE MORE.

UM, SO I, I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF A CHICKEN OR THE EGG KIND OF THING IN TERMS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THE DEMAND IS BEFORE BRINGING IN SUCH AN INVESTMENT.

UM, AND SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE SEE THEM MORE IS IN JUST METROPOLITAN AREAS THAT ARE MORE DENSE.

AND, UH, THIS IS TO, WE WOULD OWN THESE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THEY WOULD BE OURS TO KEEP, YES.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

UH, SO WHERE I THINK WE ARE I GONNA GIVE THIS A SHOT, UH, OBVIOUSLY MOVING FORWARD WITH PUTTING UP THE BIKE RACKS, WE'RE ALL CLEAR GOOD ON BIKE RACKS.

USAGE THEY'RE GETTING OUT BECAUSE THOSE THINGS HONESTLY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

UH, BUT HOLDING OFF STILL ON THE BIKE LOCKERS AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST SITTING HERE THINKING, I MEAN IT, YES, THE, THE SQUARE IS GONNA OPEN IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER ROLLS AROUND THE DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY MONTHS, WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE RIDING BIKES NECESSARILY .

SO WE MAY NOT SEE BIKE USAGE PARKING, UH, UNTIL NEXT SPRING, SUMMER, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT POINT.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SAFE TO TABLE THE LOCKERS FOR THE TIME BEING.

MAYBE WE READDRESS IT IN THE SPRING.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE COMING UP INTO A TIME WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEIR MAXIMUM USAGE, UH, AS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? AS FAR AS JUST FOR, FOR THE TIME BEING, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, Z LAST THOUGHT, AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE BIKE, WHAT I CALL THE BIKER COMMUNITY IN GOLAND.

WAS THIS ONE OF THE TOPICS, AND IF SO, CAN YOU SHARE WHAT, WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BIKER USES COMMUNITY IN GARDEN REGARDING THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN NOW? ANY CONVERSATION THERE? AND CAN YOU SHARE, SHARE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS? THE, THE CONVER CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD WAS MORE ABOUT, UM, SECURITY IN GENERAL.

IT WASN'T ACTUALLY SECURITY SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, BIKE LOCKERS.

SO, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT STAFF, UM, CAME UP WITH AND, AND AS AN OPTION, UM, TO ADDRESS THE SECURITY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT, THAT THOSE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, UH, BASICALLY WHATEVER CONVERSATIONS HAD AROUND BIKE SECURITY, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR THE BIKE.

SO MOVING HEAD BIKE RACKS, HOLDING ON BIKE LOCKERS, AND MAYBE IN THE MEANTIME, UH, WE CAN DO A LITTLE RESEARCH WITH OUR FRIENDS AT DART AND SEE HOW MUCH

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UM, I, YOU KNOW, NOW AS TO HOW OFTEN OR HOW FREQUENTLY THEY'RE USED, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT WE COULD GET SOME IDEA OF, OF THEIR USAGE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR

[4.b. Discuss and consider Garland’s Community Rating System (CRS), and provide direction to staff where needed.]

B, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GARLAND'S COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF WHERE NEEDED.

MR. HICK.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.

THIS WAS A TOPIC THAT CAME UP PROBABLY ABOUT CLOSE TO TWO YEARS AGO NOW IN THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY COMMITTEE.

THE TIM RATHER REFERRED OR COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE TIM COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, IT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING A LOT OF DIFFERENT DRAINAGE TOPICS WITH, WITH OUR WHOLE CODE A, B, C, THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND WE EVEN CAME ACROSS THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM AND THE PEOPLE THAT PAY INSURANCE THROUGH THE NASHVILLE FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

AND SO, UM, WHEN THIS CAME UP, WE DECIDED TO START DOING SOME RESEARCH.

AND, AND LOOKING BACK AT A FEW THINGS REAL QUICK, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS.

FOR SOME OF YOU THAT MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH THE C R S PROGRAM, IT IS, UM, THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM'S C R S, IT'S, IT'S A VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE FOR CITIES, UM, THAT RECOGNIZES ENCOURAGE CITIES, UM, FOR COMMUNITY FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT EXCEED THE MINIMUM N F I P REQUIREMENTS.

SO AS A RESULT, FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUM RATES ARE DISCOUNTED FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT PAY FLOOD INSURANCE.

AND IN, IN THREE DIFFERENT CA THESE ARE THE GOALS THAT THE C R S HAS THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE N F I P IS TO REDUCE FLOOD DAMAGE TO INSURABLE PROPERTY, STRENGTHEN AND SUPPORT THE INSURANCE ASPECTS OF THE N F I P AND ENCOURAGE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT, WHICH THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS DONE ALL THREE.

UM, BRIEF HISTORY.

IN 1968, THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE ACT, UM, ACTUALLY LAUNCHED THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM IN AN APRIL 16TH, 1971.

THE CITY OF GARLAND BECOME, BECAME A PARTICIPANT IN THE N F I P.

AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT HOMEOWNERS COULD ACTUALLY PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE WAS IN 1971.

AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THE CITY OBVIOUSLY ADOPTED THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN MAPS.

AND THEN IN 1979, THE CITY CREATED AND ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN AREAS, WHICH IS A PRECURSOR TO A MORE RESTRICTIVE OR ABOVE AND BEYOND THE N F I P STANDARDS.

AND THEN IN 1979, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY OCTOBER 1ST, 1979, UH, ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 26 YEARS AGO, UM, THE CITY ACTUALLY BECAME A PARTICIPANT IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.

THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY OFFERED THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM AND THE CITY BECAME A, UM, A PARTICIPANT IN THAT RESULTING IN DISCOUNT ON FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY PREMIUMS FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES IN GARLAND.

HOW IS IT CALCULATED? UM, IF YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS, THERE IS A PUBLISHED MANUAL THAT IS 641 PAGES LONG, AND THERE'S A SUBSEQUENT 68 PAGE ADDENDUM THAT WAS ISSUED IN 2021.

IT IS VERY DRY READING.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND IN SOME, IN SOME CASES.

AND, UM, WE, I HAVE READ THROUGH A LOT OF IT, BUT I HAVE NOT COVERED ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 700 PAGES .

BUT, UH, THERE ARE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT ARE SPELLED OUT IN THIS MANUAL.

IT IS UNDER PUBLIC INFORMATION MAPPING AND REGULATIONS, FLOOD DAMAGE REDUCTION ACTIVITIES, AND FLOOD WARNING AND RESPONSE.

NOW, UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY COULD PARTICIPATE IN, UM, TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE N F I P STANDARDS.

THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM THE STORMWATER AND FLOODING EDUCATION TO OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS, UH, OUR FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS ON DOWN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN ANNUAL PRESS PUBLICATIONS AND NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE, WE DO ALL OF THESE.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT I WAS QUICKLY THINKING OF.

BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, 700 SOMETHING PAGES.

THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES IN THERE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN PARENTHESES, IT, IT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OR ALTHOUGH WE ARE A COMMON COMPONENT OF A LOT OF THESE, IT DOES IMPACT THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE P M O OFFICE, UM, STREETS, UH, PUBLIC RELATIONS AND, AND I

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BELIEVE EVEN PARKS IS IMPACTED BY THIS.

I'M NOT IN A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY DO ON THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

THEY REPORT BACK.

WE PUT EVERYTHING AND COMPILE A REPORT.

UM, AND IT'S, AND WE, WE SUBMIT THAT EVERY YEAR TO SAY THAT WE'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE AND WE RECERTIFY ANNUALLY IN OCTOBER, BUT WE PULL ALL THIS TOGETHER USUALLY IN JULY AND AUGUST, AND THEN SUBMIT IN, UM, SEPTEMBER SO THAT WE ARE, UH, FULLY RECLASSIFIED IN OCTOBER.

SO HOW IS IT CALCULATED? AGAIN, EACH ACTIVITY HAS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF POINTS FOR CERTAIN TASKS.

THE POINTS ARE THEN ADDED UP, AND THEN THERE IS A SCALE FROM ONE TO 10, ONE BEING THE BEST, AND 10 BEING, UH, I MEAN ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM END OF THE SCALE, IT'S KIND OF INVERTED.

BUT, UH, BASED ON THE CLASSIFICATION, A REDUCTION IN FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS IS OFFERED TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SINCE WE BEGAN PARTICIPATING IN 1979, THE LAST 26 YEARS, THE CITY HAS MAINTAINED A CLASS SEVEN CERTIFICATION.

AND, UM, GARLAND WAS REQUIRED JUST RECENTLY, OBVIOUSLY LAST OCTOBER WAS THE LAST TIME WE RE-CERTIFIED OUR, OUR RANKING.

IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HARD AT THIS.

ONE OF, I, I WROTE THEIR NAMES DOWN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T FORGET TO MENTION THEM.

ONE OF 'EM IS OUR C R S REPRESENTATIVE OUT OF LOUISIANA.

HER NAME IS STEPHANIE WEEKS.

AND, UM, WE CONTACTED HER, UH, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AND SAID, HEY, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT MUCH ABOUT THE C R S PROGRAM.

THIS MANUAL IS VERY DIFFICULT TO READ.

CAN YOU HELP US INTERPRET SOME OF IT? SO SHE SAT DOWN WITH US ON A, IN A CONFERENCE CALL AND SHE SAYS, YOU KNOW, ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS? YES.

ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS? SO WE, WE WERE GOING THROUGH JUST A REAL QUICK REFERENCE WITH HER AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION AND, UM, I THINK I CAN HELP YOU WITH THIS.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE DOING A BUNCH OF THINGS YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THAT YOU WOULD QUALIFY FOR POINTS THAT YOU JUST, YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD DO.

SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL GREAT.

SEND US SOMETHING.

SO THEY DID, AND SHE MANAGED TO CONDENSE THE 700 PLUS PAGE MANUAL INTO A 28 PAGE CHECKLIST.

IT WAS, IT WAS A TIME SAVER, I TELL YOU.

BUT, UM, WE, WE ASKED IN, IN OUR OFFICE, WE ASKED JAKE FISHER TO, TO HEAD THIS UP AND, AND WORK WITH HER AND GO THROUGH THESE LISTS AND, AND HE CHECKED OFF EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING.

'CAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT COMPILED THE REPORTS EVERY YEAR AND SUBMITTED IT.

BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH VIRTUAL MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.

BUT IN THE END, THERE WERE A FEW THINGS IN WHAT I WOULD CALL LOW HANGING FRUIT, WHERE WE WERE DOING THINGS WE WERE ALREADY DOING THAT WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD GET POINTS.

THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAD TO TWEAK AND DO DIFFERENTLY.

AND THEN THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT WE WERE KEEPING TRACK OF THAT ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS POST IT ON THE WEB CITY'S WEBSITE AND WE GOT POINTS FOR IT .

SO IT, IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE THAT.

BUT ALL IN ALL, WE, WE MADE A FEW IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THINGS AND IT RESULTED IN AN ADDITIONAL 465 POINTS, WHICH, UM, WAS, WAS HUGE.

WE, WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET MO MORE, HOPEFULLY, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THAT FAR.

THE C R S REPRESENTATIVE, STEPHANIE CAME TO VISIT US, UM, PERSONALLY, AND WE SAT IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM FOR FOUR HOURS ONE DAY, WENT THROUGH ALL OF OUR AUDIT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING POSTED ON THE WEBSITE THAT WE SAID WE DID, AND ALL THE NEW PIECES AND EVEN ALL THE OLD ONES THAT WE'RE DOING, GETTING OUR REPORTS TO HIM.

AND, UM, SHE SAID, NOPE, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.

AND SO AS OF THIS YEAR, UM, GARLAND WAS RECLASSIFIED FROM A SEVEN TO A SIX THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE JUST, UM, A WEEK AGO SUNDAY, OCTOBER 1ST.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY AN, A GREAT EXERCISE.

IT DID TAKE SOME TIME, BUT IT, BUT IT WAS A GREAT EXERCISE.

UM, SHOWING YOU THE, THE POINT TOTALS ON THE LEFT COLUMN THERE, GARLAND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS 2,112 POINTS.

NOW WE USED TO BE 1,670 SOMETHING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

AND THEN, SO THAT WE ARE NOW CLASSIFIED AS A SIX.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT RESULTS IN ADDITIONAL 5% IN REDUCTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE PAYING FLOOD INSURANCE.

IT'S A FIVE, ANOTHER 5% REDUCTION ON THEIR PREMIUMS EACH YEAR.

SO THEY'RE NOW AT A 20% REDUCTION, UM, FOR THEIR PREMIUMS AT THE CITY OF GAR IN, WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND.

UM, HOW DO GARLAND RESIDENTS BENEFIT? THERE ARE 238 FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES IN GARLAND THAT ARE LOCATED IN SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS WHERE THIS IMPACTS THE ADDITIONAL 5% AVERAGES.

AND IT, IT SOUNDS LOW, BUT IT'S $88 PER YEAR SAVINGS PER FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY.

NOW, THEIR POLICIES DIFFER IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT TO MAYBE THREE TO FOUR FEET OF FLOODING IN A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.

THEY'RE GONNA, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE PAYING FLOOD INSURANCE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PREMIUMS ARE HIGH.

I'VE

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HEARD OF PREMIUMS BEING UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR FLOOD INSURANCE.

SO A A AN ADDITIONAL 5% IS REALLY GOOD FOR THEM.

NOW YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S ONLY INUNDATED MAYBE TWO TO SIX INCHES IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

THEIR PROPERTY'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT STILL BELOW THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND THEIR PREMIUMS WOULD BE LOWER.

BUT THE AVERAGE, UH, VALUE SAVINGS IS ABOUT $88 PER PROPERTY PER YEAR.

UM, TOTAL SAVINGS FOR ALL GARLAND POLICY HOLDERS IS JUST UNDER 21,000 IS WHAT THIS 5% GETS YOU.

UM, HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES.

THERE ARE 74 CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

UM, SEVEN CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE A BETTER CLASSIFICATION THAN GARLAND.

THREE OF THEM ARE ONE OF THE 20 CITIES IN THE METROPLEX.

AND AS YOU SEE ON THE LIST HERE, IT IS DALLAS, GRAND PRAIRIE AND ARLINGTON GARLAND, BEN BROOK, CARROLLTON AND CAPEL COME IN AT A SIX, I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE CITIES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE ACTUALLY WAS RECLASSIFIED FROM A SEVEN TO A SIX THIS YEAR AS WELL.

UM, IRONICALLY, OR OR COINCIDENTALLY, THE STEPHANIE WEEKS IS OUR REGIONAL, UM, CS, OUR C R S REPRESENTATIVE.

SHE'S OVER MOST OF THESE OTHER CITIES.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY PROBABLY HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION WE DID WITH HER, THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY REDUCED THEIR NUMBER THIS YEAR.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S A FEW OTHER NOTABLE CITIES THAT, THAT, UH, COMPARE TO THE CITY OF GARLAND.

NOW I KNOW EVERYBODY'S THINKING, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET TO A CLASS FIVE ? SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS A LITTLE BIT SO FAR WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS.

THE PROGRAM WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TASKS TO BE PERFORMED.

BUT NOW HOW, WHAT IS IN ENCOMPASSED IN ALL THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET? UH, IT WILL, MOST LIKELY, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE POINT TOTAL THAT WE NEED IN ONLY ONE CATEGORY.

IT'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE CATEGORIES.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, UM, DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND SIFT THROUGH SEEING WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT DO WE HAVE THE WHAT DO WE HAVE THE, UM, RESOURCES TO DO NOW WITHOUT ADDING NEW RESOURCES? OR DO WE HAVE TO ADD, READ NEW RESOURCES, OR DO WE NEED FUNDING? DO WHAT DO WE NEED TO ACHIEVE THESE ADDITIONAL POINTS? BUT THAT IS A, TO BE DETERMINED.

AND THEN EVEN AFTER THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUR COSTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND DO SOME SORT OF BENEFIT TO COST ANALYSIS TO ACHIEVE THAT.

SO THAT'S A TWO B DETERMINED.

AND UM, WE WERE JUST EXCITED TO TAKE THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO GET WHERE WE WERE.

SO THIS IS ON OUR RADAR SCREEN TO START WORKING THROUGH THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, AND WHAT WOULD, WHAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR.

SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT, UM, TOMORROW EVENING, OUR REGION SIX FEMA REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE HERE TO, TO PRESENT THE CITY WITH ITS, UM, CLASSIFICATION SIX PLAQUE AT THE, BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT.

SO, UM, THAT'LL BE EXCITING FOR US.

'CAUSE UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR SEVEN, BUT WE WILL WE SIX.

SO , THAT'LL BE GOOD TO POST SOMEWHERE .

BUT WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

VERY GOOD COUNCILOR LUCK? NOPE.

YES, YES, YES.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

UM, WILL ANY OF THE DRAINAGE PRO UH, DRAINAGE PROJECTS FROM THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM AFFECT THIS RATING AT ALL? OR DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING YOU ASKED THAT.

UM, WE DO GET POINTS FOR, FOR REMEDIATION PROJECTS.

IT'S NOT AS MANY AS WHAT YOU THINK, BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY EXCITED WHEN WE STARTED THE FLOOD PRONE BUYOUT PROGRAM THIS YEAR.

WE THOUGHT, OH, WE MIGHT GET A LOT OF POINTS FOR THE FLOOD PRONE BUYOUT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BUY A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THE POINTS.

SO THAT'S ONE THING WE DID LEARN THAT, UM, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE N F I P STANDARDS.

SO YES, WE WILL, WE CAN GET CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT IT'S NOT AS MANY POINTS AS WHAT YOU THINK.

IT'S MINIMAL.

SO WOULD EROSION CONTROL ALONG THE CREEK WALLS? GET US SOME POINTS? SOME, BUT, BUT WHAT AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FLOOD CON THAT'S, THAT'S EROSION CONTROL.

IT'S NOT REALLY DOING WITH FLOODING.

THE FLOODING WOULD BE A MASS PROJECT WHERE YOU'RE WIDENING A STREAM AND MAYBE BUYING OUT A NUMBER OF HOMES AND DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT EVEN THEN, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THAT.

'CAUSE NOW YOU'RE REMOVING THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT YOU'D BE GIVING THE, THE, THE ACTUAL BENEFIT FROM, BUT THAT YOU'D BE REMOVING THEM NOW.

SO, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL GONNA HAVE TO BE WEIGHED.

YEAH, I WILL, I WILL LET JAKE KNOW.

DEFINITELY KNOW THAT HE WORKED HARD ON IT.

COUNCILMAN HEDRICK.

UH, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST PUT SOME EFFORT TOWARDS SEEING IF WE CAN, IF THERE'S ANY REMAINING LOW HANGING FRUIT TO BE ABLE TO GET, I KNOW WE'LL TAKE SOME WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE US KEEP MOVING IN THE, MOVING UP IN THE RANKINGS HERE.

I'LL SAY GOOD JOB ON, ON WORKING THIS.

I KNOW WE WORKED ON THE TIM COMMITTEE WITH THIS AND I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE IT FINALLY COMING HERE.

AND I JUST WONDER KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THE EXTRA 388 POINTS , UH, TO GET UP ANOTHER LEVEL.

WE CAN CERTAINLY CATCH ARLINGTON AND, UH, DEFINITELY.

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OH, YEAH, NO, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY, IT'S ON OUR RADAR TO, TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

AND, AND IT'S GETTING THE BUY-IN FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THE EXTRA TASKS THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED, OR ANY KIND OF REPORTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE THAT ON TOO.

WELL, THANK YOU.

ON TO ITEM FOUR C, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GARLAND COMMUNITY CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION INCORPORATED, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, REVENUE BUDGET, SUB-GRANT RECIPIENTS, AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, AND PROVIDE DETAIL TO STAFF WHERE NEEDED.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SEE NONE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU AND THAT WILL MOVE US

[4.c. Discuss and consider GCACI Hotel Occupancy Tax Revenue Budget, Sub-grant Recipients and Hotel Occupancy Tax Program Management Agreement, and provide direction to staff where needed.]

YES, HERE YOU ARE.

HERE I AM , AMY ROSENTHAL, CULTURAL ARTS.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THIS WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

HMM, HMM, HMM, HMM.

GOOD THING, .

LET'S TRY THIS REAL QUICK.

UH, LET'S SEE.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, I'M NOT SEEING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

C S C.

AND THEN WHATEVER THE, WHAT WAS CONTROL CONTROL L, CONTROL.

WELL, THANK Y'ALL SO VERY MUCH.

UH, HERE, I'M VERY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, SO, UH, THIS YEAR WE, UH, EXPLORED A NEW PROCESS.

WE HAD ONLINE GRANT APPLICATIONS, WHICH WAS PRETTY TERRIFIC FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS AND FOR OUR APPLICANTS AS WELL, TOO.

UM, SO WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK THAT IT EASED UP THE PROCESS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED, AND CERTAINLY THE STAFF MADE IT EASIER FOR THE STAFF AS WELL TOO.

SO WE OPENED OUR APPLICATIONS ON AUGUST.

THE FIRST, UH, APPLICATIONS WERE DUE ON THE 31ST.

WE HAD OUR INTERVIEWS IN SEPTEMBER.

UH, THE COMMISSIONERS WERE FACED WITH A VERY DIFFICULT JOB OF SCORING ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS.

UM, OUR COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TASKS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE GARLAND CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

AND, UH, THEY TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME REVIEWING THOSE APPLICATIONS, READING THROUGH, UM, THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS ON SCORING.

SO, UH, ON THE 19TH, THEY GOT TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THEIR SCORES.

I'M HERE TONIGHT.

IT WILL COME BACK FOR Y'ALL NEXT WEEK TO, UH, FINALIZE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO, JUST AS AN OVERVIEW, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, UM, I'VE HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE EFFORTS WITH OUR CULTURAL MASTER PLAN AND TO, UM, REALLY ENCOURAGE AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT LOTS OF FOLKS KNOW THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN GARLAND WITH OUR CULTURAL ARTS, UH, GRANTS.

AND SO THIS YEAR WE HAD 19 APPLICANTS.

UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY THERE WAS A REALLY, UM, IN, UH, VERY SPECIFIC CAMPAIGN THAT WENT OUT TO GET NEW APPLICANTS.

WE, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA, WE SENT IT OUT IN CITY PRESS.

UH, WE EMAILED INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO VERY EXCITED TO SEE OUR LAST, OUR, OUR LIST THIS YEAR GROW TO, UH, TWO AT 19.

OUR TWO NEW GROUPS THIS YEAR WERE EEK, SATARA, AND THEN PRI PRISM MOVEMENT THEATER.

SO, UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THE BUDGET LOOKS THIS YEAR FOR THE GARLAND CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

UM, THERE'S $190,000 COMING FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES.

UM, AND THEN OUT OF THAT 147,000, UH, GOING TOWARD GRANTS, UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE TOO HOW, UH, COMMISSIONERS,

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UM, WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE THEIR DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE G I SS D AWARDS AND RECEPTIONS WITH ADVERTISING.

UM, WE'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SPECIAL EVENTS, AND WE'RE HELPING WITH SOME PERFORMERS FOR DI LOS MUTOS AND FOR BIG ART DAY.

UM, AGAIN, CONTINUING ON THE SUCCESS OF GARLAND VIBE, UH, WITH THE POP-UP EXHIBITS.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USING ALL OF THEIR DOLLARS VERY WISELY.

UM, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 267,000, UH, REQUESTED IN GRANTS.

IN GRANTS.

AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS ARE ALLOCATING $147,000 FOR, FOR AWARDS.

IT'S SOME PRETTY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEIR HOW, UH, THE AWARDS, HOW THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, TO ALLOCATE THOSE AWARDS.

UM, AND AGAIN, EVEN OUR, OUR NEW ORGANIZATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ALLOCATE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR THEM TO HELP BRING THEIR PROGRAMS TO GARLAND.

UH, SO WE ALSO HAVE OUR YOUTH WAIVER, UH, SUBSIDY.

THIS IS WHERE GROUPS THAT HAVE PROGRAMS FOR, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, ARE ABLE TO ACCESS SOME, UH, COMPLIMENTARY SPACE AT OUR FACILITIES.

AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? TRY IT AGAIN.

UM, SO, UM, I WENT TO THE, UH, LITTLE JOE EL FELIA SHOW ON FRIDAY.

IT WAS EXCELLENT.

AND THE, THE AUDITORIUM WAS PACKED.

UM, I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF OTHER SHOWS, UM, LIKE WITH THE GARLAND CIVIC THEATER, AND THOSE WEREN'T AS PACKED.

SO DO YOU ALL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ATTENDANCE AND DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? AND HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT FIGURE INTO, UM, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY RECEIVE? THAT'S A TERRIFIC QUESTION.

SO, UM, IN THE APPLICATION, OUR, OUR GROUPS ARE ASKED TO, TO FORECAST HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'LL BE REACHING AND TO REPORT ON THEIR NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, I THEATER, AMERICAN THEATER AS AN INDUSTRY IS STILL TRYING TO REBUILD AFTER C O V I D IT WAS PRETTY DECIMATING.

LIVE PERFORMANCE WAS REALLY IMPACTED.

I MEAN, DEVASTATINGLY WITH C O V I D AND IN ALL THEATER COMPANIES, IT'S NOT JUST OUR GARLAND COMPANIES, IT'S, IT'S EVERYONE IS STILL TRYING TO REBUILD THEIR AUDIENCES.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A, A SEGMENT OF, UM, AUDIENCES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAT MAY BE FEELING A LITTLE UNCERTAIN ABOUT COMING BACK INTO THOSE SPACES.

SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM.

YOU KNOW, THEY, THESE GROUPS ALL HAVE THEIR OWN MARKETING BUDGETS AND WORK VERY HARD AT TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT, UM, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WORK VERY HARD TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH ANYTHING WE CAN, THROUGH OUR EMAILS, THROUGH, UM, FACEBOOK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO REBUILD.

BUT, BUT I WOULD SAY THE BENEFIT OF SUPPLEMENTING SO LITTLE JOE WAS A CITY OF GARLAND CULTURAL ARTS PRESENTED TYPE OF ACTIVITY.

MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE AT OUR FACILITIES ARE RENTALS WHEN WE DO HAVE A, AN ACT LIKE LITTLE JOE, WHERE 70% OF THE AUDIENCE MAY BE FIRST TIME ATTENDEES TO OUR FACILITIES.

THAT HELPS INCREASE AWARENESS OF OUR LOCAL GROUPS.

SO MY HOPE IS WE CONTINUE TO DO THESE THINGS THAT DON'T COMPETE WITH OUR LOCAL GROUPS.

BUT AGAIN, WE CAPTURE THEIR EMAILS, WE ADVERTISE TO THEM, AND WE SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT? COME BACK.

'CAUSE WE'VE GOT GREATER TUNA AT CHRISTMAS.

YOU KNOW, THE CIVIC THEATER HAS GREATER TUNA, SO WE'LL USE THOSE ACTS TO HELP BUILD AUDIENCES.

YEAH, I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST, I'VE GOING THROUGH THE GARLAND SUMMER MUSICALS AND GARLAND CIVIC THEATERS, UM, SEASON, UH, I THINK IT WAS THREE OF THE SHOWS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON ARE FROM THE 30, 1930S.

AND I JUST WONDER IF THOSE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY REACHING, YOU KNOW, THE POPULACE HERE AND, AND GRABBING THEIR ATTENTION.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

UM, I'M HAPPY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL DOING WELL AND, AND GOING ON WITH THE SEASON, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, UM, WOULD ATTRACT A, A LARGER DEMOGRAPHIC.

THANKS.

AT, UM, OVER HERE, AND THEN THE PLAZA THEATER ARE USUALLY LIVE.

COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR COMING, FOR COMING.

A COUPLE, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN BRIEFLY ABOUT, WE HAVE THE THEA, WHAT I CALL THE THEATRICAL PERFORMANCES

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UM, DO WE TRACK BOTH AND WHAT'S REFLECTING BACK ON THIS LAST YEAR, ANY COMPARISON BETWEEN THE, THE, THE, THE TWO I'VE BEEN TO BOTH, BOTH PLACES.

SO IS THERE, HOW DOES, HOW DOES LOOKING AT BOTH OF THESE IMPACT WHAT'S ON YOUR SCREEN? SURE, SURE.

SO OUR PLAZA THEATER, YOU KNOW, THE OLD HISTORIC MOVIE THEATER, IT'S, IT'S, UM, HAS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT KIND OF VIBE THAN OUR BIG, BEAUTIFUL, UH, BROWNLEE THEATER AT THE, AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR GROUPS, UH, DO TRACK THEIR ATTENDANCE.

WE AS STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING TRACK OF, UM, HOW MANY BODIES ARE IN OUR FACILITIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THE PROGRAMMING, THE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT PROGRAMMING ON THE SQUARE.

YOU KNOW, OUR HOPE IS THAT EVERY WEEKEND WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LIVE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME PRIVATELY RENTED, UH, MOSTLY KIND OF DANCE RECITALS THAT WE'LL SEE AT THE PLAZA, BUT, UM, WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING TO THINK ABOUT PERFORMANCES THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THAT PLAZA THEATER IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE DYNAMICS OF THAT WHOLE SQUARE.

YOU KNOW, OUR HOPE IS THAT PEOPLE WILL, UH, GO EAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE SHOW, OR GRAB A COCKTAIL OR A CUP OF COFFEE OR DO A LITTLE SHOPPING AND THEN SEE THE SHOW.

SO THERE'S A REALLY, UM, A SPECIAL ENERGY THAT, THAT PLAZA THEATER HAS FOR, WITH THE SQUARE NOW, THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, IT'S A MUCH BIGGER SPACE.

UM, IT CAN REALLY ACCOMMODATE ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO TRY TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WORK BETTER ON THAT BIG STAGE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR A SINGLE SINGER SONGWRITER, SOLO ACOUSTIC TYPE OF ACT IN THE BIG STAGE THAT'S A BETTER SUITED FOR OUR PLAZA.

AND THEN WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PRESENTED, LIKE, LET'S JUST SAY THE LITTLE JOE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS THAT ARTIST FEE FOR A LITTLE JOE VERSUS WHAT IS THE GROSS POTENTIAL? SO I WANNA MAKE SURE OUR, OUR GOALS IS TO TRY TO BREAK EVEN, UM, WITH ANY TYPE OF ACT THAT WE ARE PRESENTING WITH THE, WITH CULTURAL ARTS DOLLARS, AND, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

UM, MY SECOND QUE AND LAST QUESTION IS TO PIGGYBACK ON CONS, LUXE COMMENT.

UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, WHAT'S YOUR VISION IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE G I S D FINE ARTS? OH, AND WHY I'M GOING WITH THAT IS YOU YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, I MAY SEE A THIRTIES MOVIES, THEY DON'T, I MEAN, THEY, THEY WERE BORN IN, IN 96 OR AFTER LATER THAT YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, LATER THAN THAT, OR 2000 OR LAST YEAR, SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH THE FINE ARTS OVER THERE? I KNOW, I KNOW IN THE DISTRICT THERE ARE A LOT OF PERFORMANCES.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF GROUPS THAT PERFORM ALL OVER THE CITY AT VARIOUS SCHOOLS MM-HMM.

SO HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE MORE OF THAT YOUTH TALENT INTO OUR PROGRAMMING AS PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING IN DOWNTOWN? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

THE SUMMER MUSICALS, THE SYMPHONY, GARLAND CIVIC THEATER, THOSE ARE INDEPENDENT GROUPS THAT ARE MAKING THEIR OWN SELECTIONS FOR, FOR PRESENTING WORKS.

NO, THAT'S A TERRIFIC QUESTION BECAUSE HAVING YOUNG PEOPLE AND STUDENTS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WAS LIKE, ONE OF THE TOP INITIATIVES FROM THE MASTER PLAN WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE DISTRICT AND THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.

AND IT'S SU YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SUSTAIN WITHOUT THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

YOUNG PEOPLE ADD A DIFFERENT ENERGY TO YOUR, TO YOUR DOWNTOWN, TO YOUR, UH, ENTERTAINMENT SCENE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF AUDIENCE MEMBERS AND AGES AND ALL KINDS OF DEMOGRAPHICS, RIGHT? SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OUR DTE LOS MUERTOS WILL BE LOTS OF STUDENT PERFORMANCES.

UM, THE, THE G I S D IS IN OUR BUILDING A LOT, A GOOD PORTION OF THE YEAR.

I MEAN, BETWEEN THE ART SHOW THAT THEY HAVE BETWEEN ALL THEIR U I L PERFORMANCES, THEY HAVE SOME OF THEIR DANCE PROGRAMS SCHEDULED AT THE ART CENTER.

AND WE'LL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PART OF OUR, UM, OF OUR PROGRAMS. I WILL SAY WITH OUR FILM FESTIVAL THAT'S COMING UP AT THE END OF OCTOBER, SOME OF THE MOVIES THAT WILL BE FEATURED ARE G H S.

THEY HAVE AN IB PROGRAM, REAL CINEMA THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SHOWING STUDENT FILMS TOO.

SO LOTS OF WAYS TO COLLABORATE.

THEY'RE PART OF OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT G OR THE GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL IS.

SO, UM, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE TOO, THAT I'M JUST REALLY CLEAR ON, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR LEGACY COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US, THAT HAVE HELPED DEFINE ARTS FOR GARLAND,

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OKAY? WE ARE, AS ARE NOT PRESENTING THEIR SEASONS, THEY KNOW THEIR AUDIENCES THE BEST THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UM, AND CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR STRENGTHS AS WELL TOO.

SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS SUGGEST AND HELP, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM IN TERMS OF MARKETING, BUT THEY ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT ARE SELECTING WHAT MATERIAL IS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOUR LEADERSHIP, UH, THE VENUES, I, THE VENUES THAT I'VE ATTENDED IN BOTH PLACES, TALKING TO FOLKS FROM, NOT JUST IN GARLAND, BUT ALL OVER D F W ACCORDING TO GARLAND.

UH, THE ADVERTISING, THE PUBLICITY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THE WORD OUT BECAUSE SHE SAID, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING ON IN GARLAND.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS IN GARLAND.

AND YOU HAD, YOU HAVE RAISED THE BAR AS FAR AS GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE.

SO I WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR THAT EFFORT.

SEEMS WE'VE RUN THE FULL GAMUT HERE TONIGHT, UH, WITH THE ARTS.

UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON, AMY? THANK YOU.

UM, AND TO THE COMMISSION, UH, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, UH, EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM OUT AND REALLY TAKING THE, THE MASTER PLAN TO HEART.

YES, SIR.

THEY REALLY, THEY REALLY HAVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM

[4.d. Discuss and consider the 2024 City of Garland City Council Meeting Calendar, and provide direction to staff where needed.]

FOUR D DIS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE 2024 CITY OF GARLAND, CITY OF GARLAND CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF WHERE NEEDED.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, DID WE JUST GET THE BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH WHERE THE PROVIDE JUST, JUST TRYING TO, UH, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, DOUG.

TRYING TO DO IT FOR ME.

I WAS TRYING TO, TRYING TO, AND LOOK, IT'S THERE.

YOU CAN GO AND CLICK ON THAT RIGHT THERE.

AND NOW YOU CAN HERE CTRL L .

DON'T FORGET THE CONTROL L PART.

PERFECT.

TOLD YOU AMY, MAKE SURE I GOT ALL MY STUFF.

A PERSON OF MANY TALENTS.

AT LEAST FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, IT WORKS FAIRLY WELL TO SHIFT IT TO OCTOBER 7TH AND EIGHTH, 21ST AND 22ND.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR DATES FOR 2024, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

A LITTLE HARD TO TELL THE SHADES OF COLOR, AT LEAST ON THE SCREEN.

BUT THE, THE YELLOW IS THE MEETING DATES, THE ORANGE OR THE, THE HOLIDAYS, THE RED YOU SEE, THERE'S, JUST LETTING YOU REMIND ME OF THOSE WHO ATTEND THE T M L CONFERENCE, UH, TO HIT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

OCTOBER 1ST.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, JUST LIKE ALWAYS THE FIRST TUESDAY.

UH, THAT'S WHAT'S THERE NOVEMBER 5TH NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S THE NATIONAL ELECTION DAY.

IT IS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DAY.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.

SO THE, THE DATES IN BLUE ARE THE PROPOSED, UH, FOR JANUARY.

THOSE ARE DATES PROPOSED FOR C I P, THE ADDITIONAL TIMES, UH, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ON THAT.

AND AS ALWAYS, LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET AND YOU'VE DONE THE PAST C I P, IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY TO HAVE EVERY ONE OF THOSE.

IT'S JUST TO GET IT ONTO YOUR CALENDAR.

OF COURSE, WITH ALL OF THIS IS IF Y'ALL AGREE WITH THESE PROPOSED DATES.

SO THE DATES, UH, FOR JANUARY, UH, AND AS COUNSEL KNOWS, TYPICALLY FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAYS ARE THE REGULAR SESSIONS.

AND THEN THE DAY BEFORE THE MONDAY, WHATEVER DAY THAT FALLS ON, WOULD BE THE WORK SESSION WITH MONDAY, JANUARY 1ST BEING A HOLIDAY COMING OFF OF THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU, UH, IS TO MOVE THAT TO JANUARY 8TH, NINTH, AND THEN THE 22ND, 23RD TO HAVE TWO FULL MEETINGS ON EACH OF THOSE DATES.

UM, AND THEN THE FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL DATES, NO REAL CHANGES.

MAY NO CONFLICTS.

JUNE, JULY, JULY 4TH IS NOT AN ISSUE.

THIS YEAR IT'S ON A THURSDAY.

OFTEN THAT'S ON A MONDAY OR TUESDAY, WHICH HAS CAUSES SOME PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S NOT, UH, AUGUST, NO CHANGES.

SEPTEMBER, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A DOUBLE UP ON THE TUESDAY.

IF COUNSEL PREFERS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY, UH, ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, LABOR DAY, UM, OCTOBER WOULD MOVE AGAIN AS WE TYPICALLY DO AS COUNSEL TYPICALLY DOES TOO.

THAT FIRST TUESDAY IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

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UH, NOVEMBER WOULD BE ANOTHER, UM, CHANGE WITH, IF COUNSEL PREFERS THAT TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH IS A NATIONAL ELECTION DAY, A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR.

UH, SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO DOUBLE UP ON THE MONDAY BEFORE, AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT, UH, IF YOU PREFER ON THAT.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER DATES IN NOVEMBER WOULD BE 18TH AND 19TH, AND THEN IN DECEMBER WE'RE PROPOSING, WELL, THE, THE SECOND AND THE THIRD WOULD BE NORMAL, BUT TO AVOID THE HOLIDAYS AT THE END AS WE WERE, WE, WE PROPOSED FOR THIS YEAR IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS TO MOVE IT TO DECEMBER 2ND, THIRD, AND NINTH AND 10TH.

SO, AND I, I DID SKIP A COUPLE OF THE OTHER BLUE PROPOSED BUDGET DATES JUNE 22ND.

UM, THE JUDGE IS LOOKING TO ADD THE CITY MANAGER, JUDSON REX IS LOOKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL DATE IN JUNE, LATER IN JUNE TO GET COUNSEL UP TO DATE ON SOME OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PROPOSALS TO GET IT TO YOU SOONER ON SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT THERE.

UH, AND THEN AS WE GET INTO AUGUST, YOU CAN SEE THE AUGUST 17TH AND THEN 27TH, UH, FOR THE ADDITIONAL, THE 17TH WOULD BE THE, WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, THE TRADITIONAL BUDGET OPERATING, DEPARTMENTAL PRESENTATION DAY.

BUT JUDGE, WANTING TO GET YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS HE CAN AS SOON AS HE CAN.

SO SOME INFORMATION WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING TO PROVIDE TO YOU AS EARLY AS THAT JUNE 22ND DATE.

SO I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT'S THE JUNE 22ND IS SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, IS NEW FROM THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S, IT'S AN EARLIER DATE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THAT SATURDAY, AUGUST 17TH, AND THEN THE 27TH WOULD BE AS NEEDED AUGUST 27TH, AS ALWAYS WITH COUNSEL, LOOKING TO APPROVE THE BUDGET THAT FIRST TUESDAY IN SEPTEMBER, AS YOU NORMALLY DO, THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 3RD NEXT YEAR.

SO I'VE RAMBLED A LOT.

UH, I KNOW THIS, THIS HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

I JUST WANTED TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AGAIN.

SO, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THESE ARE JUST PROPOSED DATES AND OF COURSE, WHATEVER THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL IS ON THE MEETING DATES IS ENTIRELY UP TO Y'ALL.

WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A TEMPLATE TO START FROM.

SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

CASTER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR MINT, UH, GO BACK.

NATIONAL, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

COULD YOU GO WITH THAT AGAIN PLEASE? SO THAT'S OCTOBER 1ST.

IT'S TYPICALLY THE FIRST TUESDAY, UH, AT LEAST FOR TEXAS IT IS.

SO HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS AVOID THAT NIGHT.

SO COUNSEL AND OTHERS CAN PER PARTICIPATE IN ALL THE NATIONAL NO OUT EVENTS.

WE'VE DONE THAT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

SO, OKAY, SO IT'S NEXT YEAR, IT'S TUESDAY.

AND OFTEN IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, AS THE CALENDAR CHANGES EACH YEAR.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT DAY THAT FALLS ON.

IT'S THE FIRST TUESDAY.

UM, AND TYPICALLY, I KNOW SOME YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE DOUBLED UP ON A MONDAY COUNCIL DID, UH, TO DO THAT.

BUT IN THIS CASE, UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER WITH THE WAY THE DATES FALL JUST TO PUSH IT BACK A WEEK.

YEAH, WELL, I, I, I, I KNOW THAT'S FLUID AND THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DRIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY GROUPS.

BUT AS WE GET CLOSE TO THAT, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FOR PLANNING PURPOSES ON THAT, BECAUSE THIS YEAR I LOOKED AT A SPREADSHEET AND HAD SOME ON MONDAY AND SOME TUESDAY, AND THEN I FOUND OUT PRETTY MUCH AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT I ALMOST SWITCHED TO TUESDAY.

AND SO, AND THAT WAS WELL, UH, UNTIL A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT, WHO WERE THINKING THAT MONDAY, BUT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN FLIPPED TO THAT TUESDAY.

ISSUE MAY BE THE JUNE 22ND DATE.

SO FOR THAT, ON THAT ONE, IF AS THE CLOSER WE GET TO IT, MITCH SURE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CONTACTS WE, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S, IT'S ALL DRIVEN BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITIES.

BUT IF, IF, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT FOR, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, IF WE CAN SORT OF GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN EARLY TO SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE THOSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE CHANGES.

I KNOW THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

YOU BET.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH THE TEAM THAT PUTS ALL THAT TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

THEY, UH, A LOT OF THE, THE HOAS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES THAT COME UP AND THEY START ASKING A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GET YOU AT LEAST WHAT WE HAVE EARLY ENOUGH SO YOU CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY, KNOWING THAT SOMETIMES THEY CHANGE AND WE'LL KEEP, WE'LL HAVE THE TEAM JUST KEEP UPDATING COUNSEL ON WHAT THE FINAL, WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE AND THE TIMING AND STUFF.

SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THE ONLY ISSUE, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS OTHER THAN ONE

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DO WE KNOW WHAT DAY THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WILL BE? 'CAUSE AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE LOOKING AT BUDGETS WITH YOU GUYS IN THE ROOM, I'D RATHER BE OUTSIDE LISTENING TO SOME MUSIC AND EATING SOME FOOD ON THAT DAY.

UM, WE, THE COMMITTEE, WE STILL HAVE THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE THAT I'M A PART OF AND MANY OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE PART OF WHAT WE'RE, HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT, BUT FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'D BE LOOKING AT THE WEEKEND BEFORE, PROBABLY THE SATURDAY BEFORE, NOT THAT DATE.

RIGHT.

TYPICALLY THEY LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE AND NOT AFTER THE HOLIDAY HAPPENS.

OKAY, COUNCILOR LUCK.

UM, WILL YOU POST THIS CALENDAR ONCE IT'S APPROVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBPAGE? UM, I, ESPECIALLY ON THE PHONE VIEW BECAUSE I'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT TRIED TO SHOW UP FOR A COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK WHEN WE WEREN'T HERE.

ANYWAYS.

YEAH, SURE.

WE'LL BE ONCE.

SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, SCHEDULED FOR Y'ALL TO FORMALLY APPROVE IT.

NOVEMBER, IT SAYS NEXT MEETING.

THE NEXT, YEAH.

UH, NOT CONSIDERATION, REGULAR MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER FOR YOU TO FORMULA APPROVE IT.

AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE.

OF COURSE, IF YOU MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IS POSTED OUT THERE AND, AND, AND TYING IN WITH THAT.

WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING, UPDATING OUR WEBSITE, THE CALENDAR, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE TEAMS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE, 'CAUSE SOME JUST, NORMALLY IT'S THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAYS, BUT NOT ALWAYS BECAUSE OF HOLIDAYS AND OTHER CONFLICTS.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE DO THAT.

AND MAYOR PRO TIM BASS.

UH, MITCH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, YOU GUYS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT CLEARLY WENT INTO THIS.

I'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE IN THE PAST AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WERE CLEAR CONFLICTS AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS AND, AND GOT IT.

UH, GOT IT RIGHT, RIGHT FROM THE START.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.