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WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME
[Call To Order]
TO THE NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.IT IS A, IT IS THE CUSTOM AND TRADITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVOCATION AND RECITAL OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING.
AND YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
UH, BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN EITHER OR BOTH, AND YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE DECISIONS WE MAKE HERE THIS EVENING.
AND TONIGHT WE WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK FROM DISTRICT FIVE.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TEXAS RANGERS AND MITCH BATES FOR WINNING THE WORLD SERIES.
IT'S ALWAYS SPECIAL THE DAY AFTER A BIG WIN TO SEE AN ENTIRE METROPLEX CELEBRATE AND COME TOGETHER WHERE GENDER, RACE, AND POLITICS DON'T MATTER.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CONTINUE THIS FORWARD MOMENTUM CARE FOR YOUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
SHOW KINDNESS TO EVERYONE YOU MEET BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THAT SMALL GESTURE WILL BRIGHTEN SOMEONE'S DAY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LIFE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A ROUTINE.
MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
TRY TO GIVE PERMISSION TO TAKE THE DOG HOME.
[MAYORAL PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]
AND, UH, ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE FACES IN THE CROWD.UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, AT THE FIRST MEETING, UH, AT OUR FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF EVERY MONTH, WE HAVE OUR PET OF THE MONTH.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE AN ESPECIALLY FESTIVE, OH YEAH, LET'S GET THE HEAD THING FIXED.
WE HAVE, UH, CRYSTAL HERE FROM OUR, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER ADOPTION CENTER.
AND LET'S TELL US WHO'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S CRAZY ABOUT THE, UH, THE RED CATTLE
MY NAME IS CRYSTAL AND I'M AN ADOPTION SPECIALIST AT GARLAND
UM, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL AND I'M AN ADOPTION SPECIALIST AT GARLAND ANIMAL SHELTER.
SHE'S ABOUT FOUR YEARS OLD, AND SHE'S AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION.
SHE'S ALREADY BEEN SPAYED AND SHE'S READY FOR A GOOD HOME.
UM, SHE HAS BEEN AT THE SHELTER SINCE MAY, AND SO, UM, SHE'S JUST KIND OF LEARNING HOW TO BE A DOG AGAIN OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER.
UM, SO SHE WAS A LITTLE BIT SHY WITH SOME OF YOU, BUT SHE FOR SURE, UM, MELTED INTO SOMEBODY'S HANDS EARLIER.
AND SO HOPEFULLY MAYBE HE'LL TAKE IT HOME,
UM, BUT WE ARE OPEN EVERY SINGLE DAY EXCEPT FOR WEDNESDAYS, UH, 11 TO SIX.
WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER DOGS AVAILABLE, UM, LIKE SADDLE.
UM, WE HAVE CATS AND GUINEA PIGS.
IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO START KIND OF SMALL.
UM, BUT WE ARE THERE AND WE HAVE SOME, SEVERAL GOOD DOGS, UH, FOR ADOPTION.
JUST KNOW, I'LL MAKE YOU A DEAL ON THIS DOG RIGHT HERE TONIGHT.
WE'LL DO LIKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, JUST A IMPROMPTU AUCTION.
WELL, NEXT UP WE HAVE, AND, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, HOLIDAY SEASON IS SWIFTLY APPROACHING US AT THIS POINT, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THE RED KETTLES.
SO, UH, TONIGHT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, WE HAVE, UH, IT IS TIME TO, UH, TO UN I GUESS TO, I DON'T KNOW, UNBOX THEM, WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THEM WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING THEM.
BUT, UH, I DO HAVE A, UH, RECOGNITION TONIGHT FOR THE SALVATION ARMY'S RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN.
AND WHEREAS THE ICONIC RED KETTLE PROGRAM ORIGINATED IN 1891 TO FEED THE HUNGRY CHRISTMAS DINNER,
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AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM NOW EXPANDS ACROSS THE WORLD AND PROVIDES CRITICAL FUNDING THAT ENABLES THE SALVATION ARMY TO CONTINUE THEIR YEAR-ROUND EFFORTS OF HELPING THOSE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE FORGOTTEN.LOVE BEYOND CHRISTMAS IS THEIR HOLIDAY THEME AND COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE HOPE AND HELP TO NEIGHBORS IN NEED 365 DAYS A YEAR.
THIS YEAR'S RED CATTLE CAMPAIGN RUNS FROM EARLY NOVEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, WHETHER IT'S FOOD FOR HUNGRY FAMILIES, VITAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, AND IN FOR INDIVIDUALS SEEKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR THOSE NAVIGATING THE CHALLENGES OF POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS, ALL FUNDS RAISED SUPPORT LOCAL PROGRAMS AND INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO FIND THEMSELVES FACING UNCERTAINTY AND HOPELESSNESS.
COINS AND DOLLARS DROPPED IN THE KETTLES GO FAR, BUT NOT FAR AWAY.
EVERY DONATION WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOOD, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, SPIRITUAL CARE, AND MORE TO THE RESIDENTS OF GARLAND.
AND WHEREAS SATURDAY, DECEMBER 9TH IS THE DAY DESIGNATED FOR CITY MAYORS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM GARLAND, SAXE ETTE, ROCKWALL WILEY, AND MURPHY TO BECOME BELL RINGERS AT KETTLE LOCATIONS ACROSS THEIR CITIES, ADDITIONALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF LOCAL CITY OFFICIALS.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS IN GARLAND AND ACROSS NORTH TEXAS THROUGH FUNDS RAISED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
SO NOW, THEREFORE, I SCOTLAND, MAY MAYOR OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, ALONG WITH THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL TO HEREBY CONVEY THE SPECIAL RECOGNITION IN HONOR OF THE SALVATION ARMY'S RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN.
YOU CAN MAKE, INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND SOUNDS GREAT.
TELL US WHAT ELSE WE'RE GONNA DO.
WE, WE APPRECIATE BEING HERE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME.
MY NAME IS BERNARD TOLAND AND I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE SALVATION ARMY IN GARLAND.
UH, BUT BEFORE THAT, UH, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, I WAS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB DIRECTOR HERE IN, IN GARLAND AND, UH, HAD AN AMAZING TIME GETTING TO KNOW GARLAND, AND SO I'M SURE GLAD TO BE BACK AND, UH, REALIZED THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I HAVE TO, TO REJOIN AND, UH, TO, TO START NEW AND, AND, AND RE UM, AND BUILD THE OLD RELATIONSHIPS TOGETHER.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M REALLY, UH, PRIVILEGED TO BE THERE.
SHE'S THE COUNTY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND FUNDRAISING FOR THE SALVATION ARMY.
AND SHE'S GONNA SAY A FEW, FEW WORDS.
SO, HAPPY TO BE HERE, UH, TONIGHT.
UM, I AM BORN AND RAISED IN GARLAND.
SO AT BORN AT THE HOSPITAL WHEN, UH, THAT WAS STILL HERE.
UM, STILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THE SERVICE AREA THAT THE SALVATION ARMY OF GARLAND, UH, PROVIDES TO INDIVIDUALS AND THE ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY OF GARLAND'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, OBVIOUSLY, AS A RESIDENT FOR MANY YEARS.
OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE HARDEST WE HAVE FACED AS A NATION.
AS WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE THROUGH THE PANDEMIC INFLATION, CIVIL UNREST, AND NATURAL DISASTERS AND UPROOT FAMILIES, WE FIND COURAGE AND STRENGTH AND LOVE THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.
AS MAYOR LAME STATED, THE SALVATION ARMY IS SHOWING THAT LOVE EXISTS BEYOND THE MOST DIFFICULT SITUATIONS, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE HOW YOU CAN JOIN US EACH YEAR.
NORTH TEXAS, MORE THAN 11.6 MILLION MEALS ARE SERVED AT THE HUNGRY.
LAST MONTH OUT OF THE GARLAND SALVATION ARMY ALONE, 550 INDIVIDUALS WERE FED THROUGH OUR FOOD PANTRY, AND AN ADDITIONAL FOUR 50 MEALS WERE SERVED THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CLOS.
GARLAND CORE COMMUNITY CENTER SERVES INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES LIVING IN POVERTY WHO LIVE IN SIX CITIES, AS MARILYN MENTIONED, WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, MAYORS THAT ARE, WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE TO, UH, START A BATTLE OF THE BANDS, IF YOU WILL,
LOVE BEYOND CHRISTMAS, AS MAYOR LAMAY ALSO MENTIONED IN THE PROCLAMATION IS OUR HOLIDAY THEME.
THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE HOPE AND HELP TO NEIGHBORS IN NEED FOR HUNDRED 65 DAYS A YEAR.
THE CAMPAIGN IS BASED ON THE SCRIPTURE FROM ONE PETER FOUR, EIGHT ABOVE ALL LOVE, AND AS A REMINDER TO LOVE OTHERS BEYOND ALL ELSE, BEYOND DIFFERENCES, BORDERS, GENERATIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES, AND IS A SYMBOL OF THE RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS THAT THOUSANDS OF NORTH TEXANS RELY ON YEAR ROUND WHEN THEY TURN TO THE SALVATION ARMY, ME.
SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO INVITE EACH OF YOU HERE AND EVERYONE LISTENING TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP US SHOW FAMILIES IN NEED THAT LOVE EXISTS BEYOND THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES.
THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S TO RING THE BELL IN PERSON.
WE HAVE 15, UH, LOCATIONS HERE IN DALLAS, AND THEN, UH, 15 MORE ACROSS THE CITIES THAT WE'VE MENTIONED.
AND YOU CAN SIGN UP ON OUR WEBSITE TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO PROMOTE YOUR VIRTUAL RED KETTLE PAGE, SO
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THE SEASON IS OPEN THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, AND YOU CAN SCAN THIS CODE HERE TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION, UM, AT A LEVEL THAT'S MEANINGFUL FOR YOU.AND AS MAYOR LAME SAID, THOSE DONATIONS AND EVERY DOLLAR PLACED IN, UH, THE KETTLE, EVERY COIN STAYS LOCAL HERE IN GARLAND.
SO IT SERVES RESIDENTS IN NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'RE SO VERY PROUD TO HAVE THE PARTICIPATION OF MAYOR LAME ALREADY, UM, AS WELL AS COUNCILWOMAN CARISSA DUTTON, COUNCILMAN BJ WILLIAMS AND COUNCILWOMAN DEBORAH MORRIS, WHO HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO RING THE BELL.
WE'RE HAVING OUR MAYOR'S CHALLENGE ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER THE NINTH, AND THEY WILL BE AT BOTH THE GROCERY AND THE RETAIL DOORS AT THE WALMART AT 53 0 2 NORTH GARLAND ROAD.
BREAKING THE DAY INTO SHIFTS MAKES IT FUN AND EASY, AND EVERYONE CAN DO THIS.
BRING YOUR HOLIDAY SPIRIT AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS.
AND IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN FILLING THOSE SHIFTS, THEN WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP TO OTHER WALMARTS, UM, ACROSS GARLAND, INCLUDING THE, THE ONE OFF I 30.
SO, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL AS THEY RING BELLS OUT IN FRONT OF WALMART AND BRING YOUR DOLLARS.
BUT WE ALSO WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MORE WAYS TO GET INVOLVED, YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONE'S FRIENDS, UH, YOUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE CAN REGISTER TO RING THE BELL AT, UH, UH, ANY OF THE 25 BELL RINGING LOCATIONS IN OUR AREA, AND WE'D BE FOR FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SCHOOL, BUSINESS, CHURCH, OR CIVIC CLUB FOR HELPING NEIGHBORS IN NEED.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
SO GO AHEAD AND MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SATURDAY, DECEMBER 9TH, AND, UH, MYSELF AND, AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE OUT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA SAY WE CANNOT LET THOSE OTHER CITIES BEAT US.
UM, WE ARE MULTIPLE SIZES LARGER THAN ALL OF THEM, ACTUALLY, WE'RE PROBABLY LARGER THAN ALL OF THEM COMBINED, SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO I HOPE WE SEE YOU OUT THERE.
AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, GO AHEAD AND POST FOR A QUORUM FOR THAT DAY, UH, IN CASE WE HAVE ALL NINE OF US SHOW UP, UM, OR IF WE HAVE TO BREAK INTO TWO GROUPS AND, UH, AND HIT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
SO WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SOON.
AND WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, WITH OURS, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A, THERE MIGHT BE A FIRE TRUCK OUT THERE, MAYBE A POLICE SWAT VEHICLE JUST TO, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON OUR AGENDA HERE THIS EVENING.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA.UH, ALL ITEMS UNDER THIS SECTION ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY A SINGLE MOTION OF COUNCIL.
WITHOUT DISCUSSION, COUNCIL HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS AT A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM.
I WILL ANNOUNCE THE AGENDA AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE OR THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY REQUESTS CURRENTLY, BUT ALSO A REMINDER, UH, THAT WE ARE PULLING ITEM FIVE AND THAT WILL COME BACK TO US AT A FUTURE DATE.
UH, FIRST LET ME READ THROUGH THE AGENDA.
FIRST ITEM, UH, ITEM ONE, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 17TH, 2023, REGULAR MEETING.
ITEM TWO, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING BIDS.
ITEM TWO, A MONOCLONAL RESIDUAL CONTROL SYSTEM.
ITEM TWO B FOREST LANE, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK REHABILITATION ITEM TWO C, ROLLING WOOD COMMONS WATER AND MAINS REPLACEMENT ITEM TWO D-G-P-N-L, EMERGENCY WATER TRAILERS AND CONDENSATE POLISHING TANKS.
ITEM TWO E-G-P-N-L GERVIN SWITCH STATION MATERIALS.
ITEM TWO F-G-P-N-L OAKLAND SUBSTATION CONTROL ENCLOSURE, ITEM TWO G-G-P-N-L HOLFORD SWITCH STATION ENGINEERING SERVICES.
PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASES.
COUNSEL APPROVED THE REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES FOR CONSIDERATION.
ITEM THREE A IS ZONING CASE Z 22 DASH 74, UH, NET INVERSION LLC IN DISTRICT FOUR.
ITEM THREE B IS ZONING CASE Z 23 DASH 27 EDG ARCHITECTS IN DISTRICT THREE.
AND EXCUSE ME, ITEM THREE C IS ZONING IN CASE Z 23 DASH 30 MOMENTUM TATTOO LLC IN DISTRICT TWO.
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SCHOOL ZONE ON MILLER ROAD.ITEM SIX T IMPAIRED DRIVING MOBILIZATION GRANT 2024.
AND FINALLY, ITEM SEVEN, RESOLUTION APPROVING A SCHEDULE FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN CALENDAR YEAR 2024 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ITEM PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY SEEING NONE? COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK.
MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED MINUS ITEM FIVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, EXCLUDING ITEM FIVE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM BASS.
MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU CAN PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US, PLEASE ANY COUNSEL AND DISPLAY THE VOTE.
AND THAT ITEM IS, OR THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY THAT WILL MOVE US
[8.a. Consider a request by Abreham Tessema to amend a Specific Use Provision for a truck storage facility. The site currently contains a Specific Use Provision for a Truck/Bus Storage Use. However, the applicant proposes an amendment to the site layout. The site is located at 2430 Lonnecker Drive in District 5.]
ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU GO OVER THE SPEAKER REGULATIONS PLEASE? YES, SIR.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF.
THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER IF THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS.
AT THIS MEETING, SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST TO SPEAK BASIS AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVED THE, THE SPEAKER'S INFORMATION.
APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS.
THE SPEAKER MUST END THEIR COMMENTS.
UH, SO ITEM EIGHT, HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OUR FIRST, UH, ZONING CASE THIS EVENING.
ITEM EIGHT, A CONSIDER REQUEST BY ABRAHAM TIMA TO AMEND A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK STORAGE FACILITY.
THIS SITE CURRENTLY CONTAINS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT ON TO THE SITE LAYOUT.
AND THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 24 30 LOKER DRIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.
MR. GARRIN, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.
UH, THE FIRST ZONING CASE ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS CASE Z 22 DASH 58.
IT IS A REQUEST FOR AN SUP AMENDMENT FOR A, UH, TRUCK STORAGE FACILITY.
THE LOCATION IS THE, UH, 24 30 LAER DRIVE AND THE, UH, ACREAGE OF THE SITE IS ABOUT 2.6 ACRES.
UM, IT IS ZONED IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, BUT WITH AN EXISTING SUP UM, 20 DASH 28 THAT WAS FOR TRUCK STORAGE.
BUT THE APPLICANT IS, UM, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN.
UH, HE'S REQUESTING FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, SPACES FOR TRUCKS, UM, AND JUST SOME OTHER KIND OF JUST, WHICH NATURALLY CHANGES THE SITE LAYOUT, BUT A SMALLER OFFICE BUILDING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT THE ADDITIONAL SPACES IS THE MAIN, UM, IMPETUS FOR THE SUP AMENDMENT.
UM, THE, UH, HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON MONIKER DRIVE.
THIS IS LOCATED BETWEEN MILLER AND KINGSLEY ROAD.
UM, AND HERE IT IS HERE OUTLINED IN TEAL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE JUST INDICATED BY THE PURPLE COLOR, UM, IT IS, UM, SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTIES AND BUILT ACCORDINGLY, INCLUDING SOME, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND, AND INDUSTRIAL USES THAT GENERATE SOME TRUCK TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AGAIN, JUST KINDA INDICATED BY THE END OF, UH, PURPLE COLOR IS, UH, UM, ALIGNS WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS, UM, INDUSTRIAL.
AND, UM, THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS A SUPPORTIVE USE TO THE INDUSTRY EMPLOYMENT SECTOR, UM, IN THAT, UM, KIND OF SUPPORTS, UM, PLACES FOR TO STAGE AND, AND STORE TRUCKS AS NEEDED.
THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING, UH, IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UM, IT ACTUALLY CALLS IT OUT, UH, PRETTY SPECIFICALLY IN THAT REGARD AND, UH, UH, SAYS OR STATE'S QUOTE, EVALUATE AND MOVE ON POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING AS A RECOMMENDATION.
AND HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA.
UM, THIS IS LAER DRIVE AGAIN, UH, PRETTY, UH, INDUSTRIAL TYPE ROADWAY.
AND, UM, CERTAINLY TRUCKS CAN BE FOUND GOING UP AND DOWN THE THE STREET.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
UM, THE SUP THAT WAS APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO, UH, DID HAVE AN SUP CONDITION, UH, FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 TRUCK PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAXIMUM OF 37 TRUCK PARKING SPACES WITH THIS REQUEST.
SO THE SITE LAYOUT, UM, REFLECTS THE, THOSE 37 SPACES.
UM, THE YELLOW JUST INDICATES THE SMALL, UM, OFFICE BUILDING THEY WOULD HAVE ON SITE.
UM, THE SITE LAYOUT AND, AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TWO, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE, UH, MEETS ALL GDC REQUIREMENTS.
THE, UM, REQUEST THIS EVENING OR, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION IS, UH, REALLY
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JUST THE SUP FOR THE LAND USE AND, AND AMENDING THAT SUP AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS IS JUST SHOWING THE SMALL OFFICE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON SITE MEETS THE APPLICABLE GDC REQUIREMENTS.UM, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE SUP TIME PERIOD FOR A A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS, UH, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE FOR THIS LAND USE.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE SUP AMENDMENT AND THE PLAN, UM, THE TRUCK STORAGE, OR EXCUSE ME, TRUCK SLASH BUS STORAGE USE IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED, UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR AN AMENDED SITE PLAN DOES NOT CARRY A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
AND THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING WILL IMPROVE THE SITE FROM ITS CURRENT CONDITION.
IN ADDITION, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN RECOGNIZES A NEED IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING.
UM, HOWEVER, AND THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION, BUT HOWEVER, UH, GIVEN THE ORIGINAL SUP, UM, FOR 20 YEARS, UH, WAS GRANTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FOR FEWER PARKING SPACES, UH, THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER A SHORTER SUP TIME PERIOD, UH, UM, THAN THE NEW NEWLY REQUESTED 20 YEAR, 20 YEAR SUP TIME PERIOD.
UH, AND THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
THAT WAS WITH AN EIGHT TO ZERO VOTE AND THAT WAS AS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT AND MAYOR, WE MAILED OUT, UH, 37 NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON THIS CASE AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILOR RE MORRIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, WILL DO, YOU CAN, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS LIMITED TO ONLY 10 SPACES? THAT WAS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AT THE TIME? UH, IT DID SEEM PRETTY RESTRICTIVE, BUT THAT WAS THE REQUEST AND HOW THEIR SITE LAYOUT WAS SHOWN AND, UM, I THINK THEY KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIGURED THEY, THEY, UH, WOULD LIKE MORE.
SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT BRINGS US HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WE CERTAINLY NEED MORE TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING FACILITIES.
I DROVE OUT THERE INTO ALL THESE AREAS, UH, INDUSTRIAL AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS.
I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN MORRIS.
IT IS, UM, VERY DIFFICULT FOR TRUCKS TO FIND A PARKING PLACE IN THAT AREA.
WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDED SEP TIME PERIOD? YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE CONCUR WITH THIS, THE, THE GUIDE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS 20 TO 25 YEARS, SO SHOULD NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS, UM, UM, ALIGNS WITH THAT.
SO DON'T REALLY HAVE NECESSARILY A PARTICULAR SS EP TIME PERIOD.
WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT SINCE THEY WERE GRANTED IT TWO YEARS AGO AND KIND OF, UM, WENT INTO THAT 20 YEAR TIME PERIOD AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE SPACES, IT WAS JUST A CONSIDERATION THAT COUNCIL COULD TAKE.
BUT I WOULD SAY GENERALLY SPEAKING, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE AGREE WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE, SO THANK YOU WILL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU MR. GAR.
UH, MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE, UH, SPEAKERS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO NOT HAVE CARDS FOR THE APPLICANT.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OH, I THINK HE'S GOT ONE IN HIS HAND.
HEY, AT LEAST YOU FILLED IT OUT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CHASE YOU DOWN.
UH, SIR, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, UM, AND YOU WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OR SIMPLY ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UH, AND I WILL ASK YOU TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND THE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR TIME STARTS NOW, SIR.
THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU OUT HERE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS FRA MTA AND I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, I LIVE IN, UH, RICHARDSON, 6 2 4 PINE VALLEY, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 1.
AND I'M HERE IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M, I'M HERE TO JUST, UH, GIVE MY BEST ANSWER FOR ALL OF THEM.
VERY GOOD, SIR, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, COUNCILOR LUCK.
I WAS ON THE PLAN COMMISSION WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH THE FIRST TIME
SO I DO MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM EIGHT A AS PRESENTED WITH A 20 YEAR SEP.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN RELUCTANT, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DUTTON TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT A AS PRESENTED WITH THE 20 YEAR SUP.
SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION MADAM SECRETARY, YOU CAN PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US PLEASE AND DISPLAY THE VOTE AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
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YOU, SIR.[8.b. Consider a request by CAT Scale Company to allow the addition of a truck scale and a freestanding sign for the truck scale on the subject property. The site is located at 1910 South Jupiter Road in District 6.]
NEXT CASE, ITEM EIGHT B, CONSIDER A REQUEST BY CAT SCALE COMPANY TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF A TRUCK SCALE AND FREESTANDING SIGN FOR THE TRUCK SCALE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 1910 SOUTH JUPITER ROAD IN DISTRICT SIX.
SO THIS NEXT CASE IS Z 23 DASH 20, UH, PROPOSAL TO ADD A TRUCK SCALE TO THE EXISTING RICKY ROCKETS FUEL CENTER SITE, AS WELL AS A FREESTANDING SIGN, UH, FOR THE TRUCK SCALE.
UH, THE LOCATION OF THIS, UH, RICKY ROCKETS LOCATION IS, UM, UH, OR THE ADDRESS I SHOULD SAY IS 1910 SOUTH JUPITER ROAD.
AND THE ACREAGE IS 7.29 ACRES.
AND THE, UH, ZONING FOR, UH, THE RICKY ROCKETS, UM, SITE IS PD 16 DASH 10, WHICH, UH, WAS SPECIFIC TO, UH, THAT LAND USE INCLUDED APPROVAL FOR, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE RETAIL RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH A CAR WASH, AS WELL AS THE GAS PUMPS INCLUDING GAS PUMPS FOR TRUCKS.
AND HERE'S A GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF MILLER AND JUPITER, AND SHOWN MORE SPECIFICALLY HERE,
AND IT IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AND IS SURROUNDED AS SUCH BY OTHER, UM, SIMILAR INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2016, UM, IT WAS KIND OF SEEN AS A, UM, KIND OF OFFERING SOMEWHAT OF A SUPPORTIVE, UH, UH, LAND USE TO THE SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL SECTOR AND BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO IDENTIFIES THIS, UH, GREATER AREA AS, UH, INDUSTRY AND JUST KINDA RUN THROUGH SOME PHOTOS OF THE AREA, INCLUDING KIND OF ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, INTO THE SITE KIND OF WHERE THE TRUCK SCALE WILL BE LOCATED.
I'VE GOT A SITE PLAN TO SHOW IT MORE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW, UH, FROM MILLER ROAD LOOKING AT THE RICKY ROCKET SITE AND JUST SOME OTHER VIEWPOINTS LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING AREA.
REALLY THE ADDITION, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THIS IS ALREADY REFLECTS THE, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, UM, INCLUDING THE RICKY ROCKETS BUILDING OVER HERE, CAR WASH FUEL PUMPS.
UH, THE TRUCKS ARE KIND OF TRUCKING AREAS LOCATED OVER HERE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
SO THIS YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS WHERE THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK SCALE, UH, WOULD BE LOCATED AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A PYLON SIGN AS WELL, WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THE TRUCK SCALE AREA FOR KIND OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE FOR TRUCKS TO KIND OF PULL UNDER AND KINDA MAKING SURE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.
UH, BUT REALLY, UM, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO THE SITE.
IT'S REALLY ADDING THIS TO, UH, AN EXISTING PAVED AREA NEXT TO SOME OF THE FUEL CANOPIES.
DOESN'T, UH, MOVE ANY LANDSCAPING AROUND OR, OR REDUCE IT.
UH, HERE IS THE REQUESTED PYLON SIGN.
SO, UH, ONE, UH, DEVIATION REALLY WITH THIS REQUEST IS, UM, THE PD WAS LIMITED TO, UH, TWO PYLON SIGNS ON THE SITE.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING A THIRD PYLON SIGN, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE.
UM, AND ALTHOUGH GRANTED ONE DIFFERENCE IS THE TWO EXISTING PYLON SIGNS ARE LOCATED OUT TOWARDS THE ROADWAY ADVERTISING THE SITE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PYLON SIGN IS INTENDED MORE INTERNAL TO THE SITE FOR DIRECTIONAL, UM, SIGNAGE FOR THE TRUCKS.
AND AGAIN, KIND OF LOCATED ON THE TRUCK SCALE ITSELF.
UH, I'LL KINDA READ THROUGH STAT'S RECOMMENDATION HERE.
UH, WHILE THE EXISTING USE PROVIDES, UH, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO TRUCKS AND GENERAL CUSTOMERS IN THE AREA, STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED TRUCK SCALE TO BE MORE SUITABLE ON A SITE THAT IS APPROVED FOR A TRUCK STOP USE.
THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS INTENDED FOR VEHICLE FUELING AND WASHING, UH, RESTAURANT DINING AND RETAIL SERVICES.
AND THE TRUCK SCALES IS A COMPONENT THAT IS TYPICALLY SEEN AT TRUCK STOPS, WHICH IS NOT A PERMITTED USE IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE, UH, PD AMENDMENT AND THE DETAIL PLAN TO, UM, ALLOW A TRUCK SCALE AND A FREESTANDING SIGN TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, HOWEVER, THE PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, OF THE REQUEST THAT WAS WITH AN EIGHT TO ZERO VOTE DURING THEIR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING.
AND WITH THAT MAYOR, WE MAILED OUT, WE MAILED OUT, UH, 32 NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON THIS CASE, AND WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES.
BOTH OF THOSE WERE IN FAVOR AND WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILOR WILLIAMS? SORRY.
YES, MAYOR YOU TO MR. GAR? GOOD EVENING.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, UM, ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
MM-HMM,
I'M NOT GONNA READ IT, I'M NOT GONNA SET YOUR INTELLIGENCE
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DOING THAT, BUT THE BASIS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.AND I ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NO NOWHERE A TRUCK OR ANYTHING, BUT I'VE STOPPED AT ACROSS TEXAS AT TRUCK STOPS.
AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE THAT DID NOT HAVE SOME AUXILIARY RESTAURANTS EATING PLACES OR OUR, UH, SCALES.
SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS WE ARE AND WHERE WE SH NEED, OR IF WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THIS ONE? I, 'CAUSE MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN CONTRARY TO WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS HERE AND P AND Z RECOMMENDED IT APPROVED TO EIGHT TO EIGHT ZERO.
SO CAN YOU HELP CLARIFY, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE SURE.
AND WHAT, HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD PROCEED GOING FORWARD? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, WELL, YEAH, AND, AND FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, UH, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, UH, TRUCK, TRUCK STOPS AND TRAVEL CENTERS, UH, KIND OF AN INTERCHANGEABLE WORD.
UM, UH, OUR COMMONLY HAVE THE, THE TRUCK SCALE COMPONENT.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE BASIS OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THE EXISTING USE OF THE RICKY ROCKETS WAS NOT APPROVED AS A TRUCK STOP, UM, AS A TRAVEL CENTER, AS THE GDC HAS DEFINED IT.
UM, IT, IT ALLOWED FOR AN ARRAY OF USES, UM, THAT YOU SEE TODAY.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF JUST STAFF'S CONCERN WAS REALLY JUST WITH ADDING THE TRUCK SCALE THAT KIND OF BRINGS IT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THAT, UM, THAT TRUCK STOP USE AND KIND OF INVITING MAYBE MORE TRUCKS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE BASIS THAT IT JUST WASN'T APPROVED FOR THAT LANE USE.
IN OUR OPINION, A CAT UH, TRUCK SCALE IS VERY COMMONLY FOUND AT A TRUCK STOP.
AND SO WE, WE JUST HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT IT MIGHT KIND OF BRING IT INTO THAT LAND USE, UM, MORE.
UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, DO WE, DO WE KNOW OF ANY EXISTING ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON AT THAT LOCATION AS IT STANDS? UM, BE CODE COMPLIANCE OR ANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS? SURE.
MY UNDERSTANDING THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY TODAY OR IF THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, BUT I KNOW AT SOME POINTS IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UH, TRUCK PARKING ISSUES OF, OF SOME, UH, TRUCKS AND TRACTOR WHEELERS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, PARKING ON SITE OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGNATED SPACES.
SO I KNOW CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN OUT THERE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES OR IF THAT, AND THAT ISSUE MAY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED ALREADY, BUT THERE, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THERE.
SO MY, MY CONCERN WOULD BE, UM, THEY'VE GOT SIGNS OUT AT RICKY ROCKETS THAT SAY LIKE, 12 HOUR PARKING MM-HMM.
LIKE, SO I DON'T KNOW ZONING WISE, LIKE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT WHAT IT ZONED NOW VERSUS WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE ZONED IF THAT WERE A THING.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REEL IT BACK INTO THE SPECIFIC ITEM IS THE SIGN AND THE SCALES.
THE, THE, THE OVERALL, THE OVERLAYING ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS, IS NOT IN QUESTION TONIGHT.
UM, WILL, CAN YOU TELL ME, UH, WHEN UTILIZING THE SCALE, DO WE KNOW HOW LONG DOES THAT ENTIRE PROCESS TAKE? OOH.
UM, I, I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AT PLAN COMMISSION, BUT I DON'T RECALL.
I'LL, I'LL DEFER THAT A, UH, QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.
AND THEN, UM, AND STOP ME SOMEBODY IF THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT, BUT
MY, MY ONLY, UM, RECOLLECTION KNOWLEDGE JUST WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. BARKER WAS JUST ON THE CODE COMPLIANT SIDE OF THINGS.
AND THEN I BRING UP MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL WAS THAT IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO A TRUCK STOP.
SO WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUCK STOP AND HOW DOES RICKY ROCKETS DIFFER FROM THAT DEFINITION? SURE, SURE.
WELL, UM, AND WE DO HAVE A DEFINED DEFINITION IN THE GDC, BUT WHAT WE FOUND, UM, WITH, WITH TRUCK STOPS, THEY, THEY OF COURSE DO, UM,
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INCLUDE SIMILAR, UH, FEATURES THAT WE SEE HERE, SUCH AS THE, THE FUELING FOR THE TRUCKS AND KIND OF A LARGER CONVENIENCE STORE AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH THEY HAVE.BUT, UM, A TRUCK SCALE IS A VERY COMMON ONE THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED AT THE QT TRAVEL CENTER THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO OR SO AT I 30 AND BOB TOWN THAT, UM, THAT DID HAVE A TRUCK SCALE COMPONENT TO IT.
UM, SOMETIMES YOU SEE SOME OTHER FEATURES AS WELL, SUCH AS SHOWERS AND LOUNGES AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S LOCATED HERE OR HAS ANY OF THAT.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, AT THE TIME OF THE, THE ZONING, KIND OF GETTING BACK TO THAT OTHER QUESTION, UM, IT WAS NOT AT THE TIME CLASSIFIED AS A TRUCK STOP.
IT WAS, IT WAS A PD REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME, THIS IS GOING BACK AGAIN TO 2016.
UM, AND THE AT THE, THE APPROVAL WAS NOT FOR A REALLY TRUCK STOP, IT WAS JUST KIND OF FOR KINDA A HODGEPODGE OF, OF, UH, USES AT THE LOCATION.
SO AS A CITY, WE DO HAVE A PRECEDENT OF APPROVING THIS USAGE AT WHAT A GAS STATION OR A TRAVEL CENTER, WHATEVER THIS IS CALLED.
THIS IS, UM, REALLY ONE OF, OF VERY FEW THAT I CAN THINK OF.
AND, AND IT'S WASN'T CLASSIFIED AS A TRUCKS.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT WAS CLASSIFIED AS A, A TRAVEL CENTER TRUCK STOP WAS THE, UM, UH, QT TRAVEL CENTER AT I 30 IN BOB TOWN.
UM, WHERE'S THE NEAREST PUBLIC TRUCK SKILL? YES.
UM, SO WE FOUND ONE, IT CLASSIFIED AS A PUBLIC TRUCK SCALE, UM, ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF AWAY AT 27 50 MILLER PARK.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, OF COURSE WE HAVE THE QT TRAVEL CENTER IN GARLAND AT I 30, THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT MILES AWAY.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CAT SCALE UNDER THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING IS, UH, REPRESENTS CAT SCALE.
THERE'S ONE IN, UH, MESQUITE, UM, ABOUT 12 MILES AWAY OR SO AT TOWN EAST AND, UH, HIGHWAY 80, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IN ROCKWALL AT THE TA TRAVEL CENTER ABOUT 18 MILES AWAY.
SO MOST OF THOSE SCALES ARE RIGHT OFF OF A MAJOR HIGHWAY, LIKE MOST OF THOSE YEAH.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MILLER PARK NORTH ONE, BUT YES, YES MA'AM.
THE ONE AT QT TA UM, AND THE ONE IN MESQUITE, THOSE, THOSE ARE KIND OF ALONG OR VERY NEAR MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
AND THEN ON THE, ON THE DETAIL PLAN, WILL YOU TAKE ME THROUGH WHERE TRUCKS WILL LINE UP ON THE PROPERTY? SURE.
AS THEY'RE TRYING TO GET WEIGHED.
MY UNDERSTANDING, OF COURSE, THIS TRUCK AREA IS ACCESSED FROM MILLER ROAD AND HERE'S A PRIVATE ROAD HERE.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING APPLICANT CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD COME FROM THIS DIRECTION AND, UM, PARK HERE TO GET WEIGHED AND THEN THEY WOULD EXIT OUT THIS DIRECTION.
HOW MANY TRUCKS DO YOU THINK COULD LINE UP THERE? OH GOSH.
BEFORE THEY REACH THE PRIVATE ROAD THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE STOPPED ON? YEAH, PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE.
YOU CAN KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR THESE RIGHT HERE.
THESE ANGLED SPACES ARE FOR, UM, TRACTOR TRAILERS, SO YOU KIND OF GET A KIND OF AN EYEBALL LOOK AT IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU KINDA START GETTING REAL CLOSE TO THE, THE DRIVEWAY THERE.
AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM MOORE.
WILL, WOULD YOU BRING BACK UP AGAIN THE, THE DEFINITION THAT STAFF USED TO MAKE THE, UH, DENIAL, UH, OKAY.
PER THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS INTENDED FOR VEHICLE FUELING.
AND AGAIN, TELL ME WHAT YOUR RATIONALE IS JUST BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL? SURE.
WELL, UM, THE APPROVED USE OF RICKY ROCKETS, IT WAS NOT, UM, IN, AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVED AS A, A TRUCK STOP OR TRAVEL CENTER, UM, AS, AS DEFINED BY THE GDC.
AND, UM, AND NOW IT DOES HAVE SOME, SOME VERY SIMILAR FEATURES AS TRUCK STOPS.
WE CERTAINLY, UM, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, BUT IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY APPROVED AS A TRUCK STOP.
SO, UM, AND GIVEN SOME, AND AGAIN, I, THE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES MAY HAVE VERY WELL BEEN RESOLVED, BUT JUST GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THERE, WE JUST HAD CON SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ADDING A TRUCK SCALE AND KIND OF, UM, MAYBE WORSENING THAT, THAT POSSIBLE ISSUE.
SO, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, KIND OF BRINGING IT CLOSER TO THAT, THAT INTENT OF WHAT A TRUCK STOP WOULD BE.
SO WITH THAT DEFINITION, IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF WOULD BE COMPELLED THEN TO BRING ABOUT A DEFINIT, UH, REQUEST FOR DENIAL BASED ON THAT DEFINITION.
THEN WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF ZONING PLANNING, ZONING, AGREEING.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE GDC IS OUT OF LINE? THAT, UH,
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WE MAY, AND I, I NOTICED THIS CAME UP BEFORE THIS HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO, AS YOU REMEMBER, WITH THE, UH, CAR WASH SITUATION.I, I, I KNOW THERE, THERE, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE, WELL, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR, FOR TRAVEL CENTERS IN THE, IN THE GDC AND I, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK NECESSARILY BACK WHEN, WHEN THE ORIGINAL PD WAS APPROVED FOR THE USE.
BUT, BUT THERE IS A DEFINITION AND IT WAS APPLIED WITH THE QT TRAVEL CENTER.
UM, SO, UM, AND I KNOW WITH THAT CASE NOT TO GET OFTEN TALKING TO ANOTHER SITE, BUT WE KIND OF TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT TO PROHIBIT SHOWERS AND LOUNGES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE, UM, VERY COMMONLY SEEN AT TRUCK STOPS.
SO I, UM, BUT, BUT TO BE CLEAR, IT, IT'S NOT AN ALLOWED, IT'S NOT A PERMITTED USE IN ANY, UM, BY RIDE IN ANY DISTRICT OR BY SUP THAT, UM, IF, IF A TRUCK STOP OFFICIALLY WANTS TO BE, UM, APPROVED IN GARLAND, IT REALLY THE ONLY MECHANISM WOULD BE EITHER TO AMEND THE CODE OR TO ALLOW IT THROUGH A PD PROCESS.
UM, SO IT, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT, CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE A, A FUTURE ITEM.
BUT, UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, I KNOW WE, WE DO HAVE DEFINITIONS IN PLACE AND KIND OF REVIEW EVERYTHING ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND, OKAY.
MM-HMM,
WELL, I THINK IF IT'S APPROVED, I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD BE ONLY SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE AND, AND IT WOULD JUST BE ADDING THE TRUCK SCALE.
IT WOULD NOT BE OPENING THE DOOR NECESSARILY TO OTHER FEATURES ON THE SITE.
SO I, I THINK IF, IF THE COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT, IT WOULD BE JUST, AS I KINDA SHOWED IN THE SITE PLAN AND THE DETAIL PLAN, IT WOULD BE VERY LIMITED TO THAT, JUST ADDING THAT ONE FEATURE TO THE ALREADY APPROVED DETAIL PLAN.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, WHEN THIS, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS SITE WAS APPROVED, IT WAS ESSENTIALLY APPROVED AS A CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS PUMPS, COMMUNITY RETAIL ROLLOVER, CAR WASH, THAT WAS, ITS, THAT'S ITS BASE ZONING, IF YOU WILL, APPROVAL FOR THE PD.
THIS WHAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER TIME, I IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE, THE, AS THE USE HAS SORT OF EVOLVED, IF IT CAME BACK THROUGH TODAY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY, IT WOULD PROBABLY LEAN MORE TOWARDS A TRAVEL CENTER, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S APPROVED AS AT, AT THIS POINT OR NOT WHAT IT'S APPROVED AT AT THIS POINT.
SO, UM, THANK YOU MR. GARRIN AND MADAM SECRETARY.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AND OR ASK ANSWER QUESTIONS.
MY NAME IS STEVE GOKEY AND I AM FROM 5 1 5 STERLING DRIVE, WALCOTT, IOWA 5 2 7 7 3.
SO FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER OUR PROPOSAL.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOR VOTING UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR A TRUCK SCALE AT RICKY ROCKETS, AS WELL AS YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT, UH, PROFESSIONAL AND HELPFUL DURING THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
WE HAVE OVER 2100 SCALES THROUGHOUT, UH, THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, MANY OF WHICH ARE LOCATED AT CONVENIENCE STORES THAT, UH, SERVE THE NEEDS OF TRUCK DRIVERS.
SIMILAR TO RICKY ROCKETS, OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT WERE LOCATED AT, OR SEVEN ELEVENS CIRCLE, KSS, UH, RACETRACK, JUST TO NAME A FEW, AND NONE OF WHICH ARE CONSIDERED TRUCK STOPS.
THEY, THEY DO NOT HAVE AMENITIES FOUND IN TYPICAL TRUCK STOPS, SUCH AS SHOWERS, UH, LAUNDROMAT SERVICES, TV ROOMS, UH, LOUNGES, AND, UH, TRACTOR TRAILER REPAIR GARAGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
PROVIDING WEIGHING SERVICE IS IMPORTANT WITH THE OVERALL SAFETY OF A TRACTOR TRAILER.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE IMPOSE WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT TRUCKING COMPANIES, UH, MUST NOT EXCEED WITHOUT, UH, STRICT PENALTIES BEING IMPOSED UPON THEM, SUCH AS FINES AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS.
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SERVICE WHICH A DRIVER CAN OPERATE AS TRUCK, WHICH MAKES EVERY MINUTE COUNT.HAVING A, HAVING A CAT SCALE IN GARLAND WILL ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND MAKE DRIVERS MORE EFFICIENT.
CURRENTLY, THE CLOSEST CAT SCALE IS 12 MILES AWAY.
THAT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER, UH, IN MESQUITE, WHICH CAN BE 30 MINUTES OR MORE IN HEAVY TRAFFIC.
AND FOR SOME OF THEM, THEY GET THERE ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT OR LOADED IMPROPERLY AND MUST RETURN BACK TO GARLAND TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM, UH, TAKEN CARE OF THIS USES CRITICAL TIME AND FUEL RESOURCES THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WASTED, UH, BY SIMPLY HAVING A SCALE AT RICKY ROCKETS.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT REASON DRIVERS WEIGH, UH, THEIR TRUCK IS TO SEE HOW MUCH FUEL THAT THEY CAN PUT ON.
MANY TIMES THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL COME, THEY'LL PULL ONTO THE SCALE, WEIGH, UH, COMPUTE HOW MUCH FUEL THAT THEY CAN PUT ON BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED AN 80,000 POUND MAXIMUM WEIGHT TO GO ACROSS THE INTERSTATE.
AND SO THEY'LL PULL BACK AROUND AND FUEL, WHICH BRINGS, UH, ADDITIONAL FUEL TAX REVENUE, WHICH DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE CITY OF GARLAND.
UH, CAT SCALE HAS APPS THAT, UH, OPERATE THE SCALE AND ALSO KIND OF KNOWS WHERE, UM, HELPS DRIVERS, UH, FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CLOSEST SCALE IS.
UH, THE APP THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR CELL PHONES SPECIFICALLY TO PAY FOR AND GET THEIR WEIGHTS, UH, TAKES LESS THAN 60 SECONDS.
SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ON HOW LONG IT TAKES LESS THAN 60 SECONDS.
SO THAT TRUCK IS GONNA PULL OFF.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY, WELL, WE ALSO HAVE A LOCATOR APP THAT, THAT LETS DRIVERS, UH, KNOW WHERE THE, THE NEAREST SCALE IS.
EVERY TIME A DRIVER SEARCHES ON THAT APP, UH, WE STORE THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE DRIVERS NEED, UH, THE WEIGHING SERVICE.
IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS, THERE WERE OVER A THOUSAND DRIVERS WHO SEARCH FOR A SCALE IN THE GARLAND AREA.
SO TO SUMMARIZE, BASICALLY THE NEED FOR A TRUCK SCALE IN THIS AREA HAS BEEN PROVEN.
THE FACILITY IS THERE, IT WILL HELP MAKE TRUCKS SAFER AND WILL ALSO HELP REDUCE TRAFFIC TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM TRUCKS LEAVING THE GARLAND AREA, FIND OUT THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT, HAVING TO COME BACK AND, UH, AND ALSO, UH, HELPS OUT THE DRIVER WITH THE CRITICAL TIME RESOURCES.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO GIVE MY LITTLE PRESENTATION HERE, AND I'M CERTAINLY, UH, WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMAN MORRIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, WELL, I'LL JUST START WITH A, A TRUE CONFESSION.
MY HUSBAND AND I SPENT OVER A YEAR IN AN 18 WHEELER WHEELER WITH MAYFLOWER VAN LINES.
SO WE KNOW LOTS AND LOTS ABOUT TRUCK STOPS AND ABOUT SLEEPING IN TRUCKS SCALE ONCE OR TWICE.
UM, AND I AM GENERALLY VERY, UH, SYMPATHETIC TOWARD THE PLIGHTS OF, OF TRUCK DRIVERS.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS IN, IN THIS CASE, UM, I WENT AND SAT AND I DRIVE PAST RICKY ROCKETS ALL THE TIME, BUT I WENT AND SAT THERE YESTERDAY FOR A GOOD LONG TIME.
AND THE CONGESTION OF TRUCKS THERE AND THE DIFFICULTY WITH CAR VEHICLES NAVIGATING AROUND TRUCKS MOVING IN AND OUT EVEN WITH NO SCALE WAS PRETTY EXTREME.
AND THAT CAUSED SOME CONCERNS HERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATA, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRUCKS THAT, UM, THAT LOAD IN GARLAND AND THEN LEAVE AND GO TO A SCALE, AND THAT MAY BE A CAT SCALE, MAYBE 12 MILES AWAY, BUT APPARENTLY WE HAVE OTHER SCALES THAT ARE MUCH NEARER, INCLUDING A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.
BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATA THAT YOU'VE COLLECTED ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES THAT HAPPENS WHERE THEY LEAVE OUR CITY AND HAVE TO ACTUALLY TURN AROUND AND COME BACK AND UNLOAD, RELOAD, REDISTRIBUTE? I DON'T, I DO NOT HAVE ACTUAL DATA TO, UH, TO BACK THAT UP.
HOWEVER, IT, IT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY AT MANY OF OUR LOCATIONS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING ABOUT CAT SCALE IS, IS OUR GUARANTEE TO THE DRIVER.
THEY WEIGH WHAT WE SAY THEY WEIGH OR WE PAY THE FINE.
SO IF THEY GO DOWN THE, IF WE SAY THEY WEIGH LEGAL AND THEY GO DOWN THE INTERSTATE, UH, AND GET A FINE FROM THE STATE SCALE, CAT SCALE PAYS THAT FINE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THE DRIVER IS DOING IS WHEN THEY LOAD HERE IN THE, IN THE GARLAND AREA, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE CLOSE TO THAT 80,000 POUNDS OR NOT, THEY'LL HAVE THAT ACCESS RIGHT HERE.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST ON THE SEARCHES ITSELF, WE HAD OVER A THOUSAND IN THE PAST YEAR OF DRIVERS LOOKING FOR THIS SERVICE.
AND, AND THAT IS VERY VALUABLE AND I, I HEAR YA.
UM, AND HAVING YOUR GUARANTEE, UM, OF THE WEIGHT BEING ACCURATE, PAYING THE FINES, THAT'S GREAT.
UM, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH THE, UM, THE CLAIM THAT THIS IS
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GOING TO REDUCE, THAT'S A VERY CONGESTED SITE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF, OF TRUCKS COMING THERE.WHEN YOU HAVE APPS THAT ARE GIVING A THOUSAND PINGS, WE'VE GOT 6 35 A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.
NOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN THEY GO AND THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT OR OVERLOADED ON A PARTICULAR AXLE GROUP, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE THAT, UH, THAT PRODUCT TAKEN OFF OF THEIR TRUCK.
MAYBE, UH, CERTAIN, UH, IF THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT, THEY HAVE TO TAKE POUNDS COMING OFF.
AND IF THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT ON A CIRCUIT AXLE GROUP, THEY HAVE TO READJUST THAT, THAT LOAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE AND GO OFF.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S, WHEN I'M SAYING THEY, THEY WOULD GO OFF SITE OR OUT OF GARLAND AND GET WEIGHED AND FIND THAT OUT.
THAT TRUCK, IF THEY CAN GET WEIGHED HERE INITIALLY, THEY WON'T BE COMING BACK BACK, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WASTING FUEL.
IT'S, IT'S MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE CITY ROADS AND ALL THAT, THAT WON'T HAPPEN.
WELL, I THINK I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M JUST, I'M STILL HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE REDUCTION WHEN WE'VE GOT A THOUSAND PINGS IN THE LAST YEAR OF POTENTIAL PEOPLE WHO COULD THEN MAKE THEIR WAY, UM, ACROSS THE CITY OR FROM 6 35 TO THIS SITE WHERE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN COMING BEFORE.
I'M, I'M HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY SEEING THAT BE A REDUCTION IS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THOSE PINGS.
I DID NOTICE WHEN I WAS, UH, SITTING THERE YESTERDAY, YOU DO HAVE THE 12 HOUR TRUCK PARKING, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN FUEL AND FOOD AND THE ORIGINAL, UM, APPROVAL FOR THIS, THIS SITE.
SO I LIKE CAT, I LIKE YOUR SCALES.
I'M, I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THIS AS BEING THE RIGHT PLACE, DRAWING TRUCKS FURTHER INTO THE CITY.
UM, AND PROBABLY I WOULD STRONGLY SUSPECT THIS WOULD BRING MORE TRUCKS, NOT FEWER.
AND I, I NOTICED, I WATCHED THE PLAN COMMISSION, I NOTICED ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS EVEN SAID IT'D BE GOOD BECAUSE YOU'D SELL MORE FOOD AND DRINKS.
SO ANYWAY, UM, IF, IF I MAY MM-HMM.
IT'S PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED SERVICE THAT THE TRUCKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE THAT ARE LOADING AT, AT ALL OF YOUR IMMEDIATE, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AREA FOR, UH, FOR WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION AND ALL THAT.
AND RICKY ROCKETS HAS THE SUPPORT FOR THE FUEL THAT'S NEEDED TO HELP THOSE TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.
AND THE SCALE IS A, IS A VITAL PART ESSENTIAL FOR THOSE TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE, THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DRAWN THOSE TRUCKS INTO YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE, THE FACILITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
IT'S, IT'S OFFERING THEM A SERVICE TO WHERE THAT THEY CAN MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGAL BEFORE THEY LEAVE AND, AND BEFORE THEY GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THEY JUST GOT LOADED IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND I, AND I DO APPRECIATE IT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, YOUR ANSWERS.
I DID ALSO CALL AROUND WITH A LOT OF OUR DISTRIBUTORS AND MANUFACTURERS THIS MORNING.
A GOOD MANY OF THEM HAVE SCALES ON SITE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE AS DIRE AS THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, MY, MY CONCERN IS MORE GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO 6 35, THAT PEOPLE THAT MAY BE HEADING TO MESQUITE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEY'LL BE ONE OF THOSE PINGS AND THAT WOULD DRAW, ACTUALLY DRAW THEM OFF THEIR FLIGHT ON THE WAY TO A DIFFERENT CITY AND PUT THEM ON OUR ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND, AND OVERLOAD.
I WISH RICKY ROCKETS WAS NICK THE BIGGEST THAT THAT WE HAD WAS IN WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS.
AND, AND 6 35 IS A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.
HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD YOU ESTIMATE PUTTING, INSTALLING THE CAT SCALE WOULD BRING TO RICKY ROCKETS? EVERY DAY WE'RE LOOKING AT, PROBABLY, MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 30 AND 40 TRUCKS THAT'LL WEIGH ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, SO WHEN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THREE, MAYBE TWO OR THREE AN HOUR.
SO I HAD ASKED MR. GARRIN ABOUT THE TRUCK STACKING AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
UM, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WORKING IF MAYBE THERE ARE 12 TRUCKS THAT COME AT ONE TIME THAT I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, TRUCKS TYPICALLY WHEN THEY COME, IT'S, IT TAKES LESS THAN 60 SECONDS TO WEIGH AND THAT TRUCK IS OFF THE SCALE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SOMETHING LIKE, IF, IF, UH,
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SAY AT A STONE QUARRY AND A TRUCK IS GETTING LOADED AND GOING RIGHT OFF AND ANOTHER TRUCK IS GETTING LOADED AND RIGHT OFF AND ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.IN A LINE AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO THE SCALE AND BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING AT YOUR, YOUR LOCAL FACILITIES AROUND HERE.
A TRUCK GETS LOADED, IT LEAVES, ANOTHER ONE BACKS UP, YOU KNOW, AND IT TAKES A HALF HOUR, 45 MINUTES FOR THAT TRUCK TO GET, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T FORESEE THAT TO BE AN ISSUE WHATSOEVER.
I GUESS I JUST HAVE LIKE THIS IMAGE IN MY MIND OF BEING ON THE HIGHWAY AND SEEING THE TRUCK SCALES AND ALL THE WELL YEAH.
LINED UP ON THE SIDE OF, OF THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUIRING EVERY TRUCK THAT THAT GOES BY BE WADED.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT JUST OPERATIONALLY YOU'RE PUTTING THIS SCALE, PROPOSED LOCATION IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FUEL PUMPS.
ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS OPERATIONALLY THAT YOU'RE BE BLOCKING OR SOMEONE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CIRCULATE THOSE FUEL PUMPS TO GET AROUND AROUND? NOT AT ALL.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN BYPASS OVER OUR SCALE.
UH, COUNSEL ALSO IN THE SITE, THE SUPI LOOKED UP THE, THE 16 DASH 10 SITE PLAN.
IT WAS APPROVED WITH THIS CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE FRONT, BUT IT ALSO HAD, IT DID SHOW THE FUEL PUMPS FOR THE 18 WHEELERS AND THE PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE 18 WHEELERS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CON CONTEMPLATED.