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WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 13TH, 2023 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.
FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
UH, ITEM ONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
[2. Consider the Consent Agenda]
MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO, CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.THIS WILL BE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT.
UM, I'VE NOT SEEN ANY REQUESTS TO HAVE ANYTHING PULLED, UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TIME, UH, UNTIL THEN, UH, AND JUST THE MORE NOTICE WE CAN GET THE BETTER SO WE CAN HAVE THE PROPER STAFF READY.
[3. Written Briefings]
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, WRITTEN BRIEFINGS.ITEM THREE A 2023, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
WHAT'D I SAY? ONE, DID I SAY ONE? YEAH.
THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND ONE APPARENTLY.
ITEM THREE B, CITY HEALTH PLAN, THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR EXTENSION.
ITEM THREE C, INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO SUMMARY AND ITEM THREE D COUNCIL IS ASKED TO CONSIDER AFFIRMING THE CITY COUNCIL INVESTMENT STRATEGY AND POLICY IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.
[4.a. Downtown | Forest Jupiter TIF (TIF#1)]
THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO ITEM FOUR, VERBAL BRIEFINGS.UH, FIRST UP, UH, ITEM FOUR A DOWNTOWN FOREST, JUPITER.
Y'ALL HAVE TO GET THIS PULLED UP.
UH, SO THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE FOR YOU IS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE, UH, EXPANSION IN THE EASTERN SIDE, AS WELL AS THE REVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE WESTERN SIDE.
WHY DON'T WE START WITH YOU INTRODUCING YOURSELF WILL.
JOSEPH SCHROEDER, THE CHAIR OF TIF BOARD ONE.
ALRIGHT, OUR PROVIDED DETAIL, UH, IS IN THE PRESENTATION WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR YOUR, YOUR MINUTES.
AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
DETAILING THE FOREST JUPITER, AS WELL AS DOWNTOWN AREA OF THE TIFF.
UH, THE EXPANSION IN THE 2020 AREA WOULD, UH, WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE MONTGOMERY PARK SINCE THERE WAS NOT MUCH AREA FOR THE, THE TIFF TO WORK WITH, EXCEPT A FEW AREAS, WHICH WE INCLUDED SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF UTILITY BOXES, WHICH WE WRAPPED.
BUT, UH, WANTING TO INCLUDE MONTGOMERY PARK, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE PARK'S, UH, BUDGET AND HELP, UH, BUILD IN SOME OF THE AMENITIES AND PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
THE TIFF KICKED IN ABOUT $460,000, UH, TO HELP IMPROVE THE PARK OVER THERE, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME ENGINEERING SIDEWALKS THAT WOULD BE TRANSPORTED FROM THE DART CENTER INTO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE, UH, EXPANSION AREA IN THE EASTERN SIDE.
THERE'S ABOUT FOUR MAJOR AREAS IN THAT SLIDE.
THERE, YOU'LL SEE THOSE EXPANDED SUGGESTED AREAS OF FOUR MAJOR, UM, ADDITIONS INTO THAT TIFF AREA, WHICH WILL, UM, COMPASS THE, THE SOUTHWESTERN AND SOUTHEASTERN SIDES OF THE TIFF, UH, LOOKING TO CREATE THE BEST MOST IMPACT FOR DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THE BLUE AREAS ARE YOUR EXPANDED, AND THE RED IS THE CURRENT EXISTING AREA OF THE TIFF.
THIS IS AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE PRESENTA OR THE, THE REPRESENTATION OF THE DISTRICT FROM WEST TO EAST SIDES.
THIS IS THE CURRENT LAND USE OF THE EASTERN SIDE, WHICH IS MAINLY DOWNTOWN OF YOUR, UH, CURRENT TIFF ONE AREA.
AND, UH, CURRENT LAND USE INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE IN THE LEGENDS LISTED THERE.
CURRENT LAND USE OF THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, Y'ALL ARE, ARE AWARE OF, OF THESE, UH, MAPS.
JUST PRESENTATION, UM, AS FAR AS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE BOARD IS RECOMMENDING FOR EXPANSION.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, ENTIRETY OF THE DISTRICT IS CAPTURED FROM WEST SIDE TO EAST.
UH, NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION
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AS TO WHAT WE'VE SUGGESTED AS A BOARD, BUT THIS IS A REVIEW OF THE OTHER SLIDES.WE'LL CONTINUE INTO THE REVENUE DETAILS SPECIFIC TO THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UM, ANTICIPATED NEW CONSTRUCTION ALSO, UM, BUT ALSO THE TOTAL REVENUE.
SO SPECIFIC DETAILS TO THE SECTION A, UM, THERE WAS AN INCREASE, UH, OF REVENUE FROM, UH, THE 50.8 MILLION IN REVENUE.
UH, THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN, UH, FUNDING THAT WILL BE, UH, CARRIED OVER, BRINGING IN THE RESOURCES OR PROGRAM TO 50.9 MILLION.
THE EXTENSION FOR FY 25 THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED WOULD ONLY BE THE CITY IN PARTICIPATION, WOULD NOT INCLUDE DALLAS COUNTY.
UH, THERE'S A FEW ASSUMPTIONS WE'RE MAKING IN THIS, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE ASSUMED 20 YEARS FURTHER.
UH, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE 2.4% AVERAGE INCREASE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, INCREASES FROM THE DEVELOPMENTS AND FURTHER RENOVATIONS.
OUR EXPANSION SUMMARY, UH, GIVES YOU AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE FUNDING THAT WOULD COME IN FROM THESE NEXT 20 YEARS, OR AT LEAST WHAT WE CAN COUNT ON CONSERVATIVELY AND HOW THOSE WOULD BE, UH, DIRECTED IN SUGGESTIONS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEAR DEVELOPMENTS.
EVALUATING 20 YEAR MODEL FROM DECEMBER 31 20, OR ENDING IN 24, UH,
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN.
ALSO, UH, PER JOE'S, UH, PROPOSED PROJECTS WOULD BE THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND REDEVELOPMENTS WITH NEW UPDATES HERE, UM, BY THE, THE NEW SQUARE UPDATES AND THE MANAGED DISTRICT SERVICES REVITALIZATION PROGRAM, UH, WILL BE GOING OVER IN DETAIL WITH THE ENHANCED SQUARE PROGRAMMING AND PUBLIC ARTS, AND DOING MY BEST TO WALK OVER THE, UH, PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWNS OF WHAT THESE LOOK LIKE AS WELL.
SO THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND REDEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE, OR HAS BEEN IN THE, THE AMOUNT OF 26.2, WHICH IS 52% OF WHAT WE PROJECT CONSERVATIVELY TO COMING OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
IT WOULD BE PROGRAMMED FOR OR DIRECTED TOWARD GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH WOULD BE FEASIBLY UH, GOVERNED WITH STUDIES TO EVALUATE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE OF THOSE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENTS.
AS WELL AS WAY FINDING SIGNAGE TO CONTINUE WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT UP AND LAND ACQUISITION, AS WELL AS PROPERTY REDEVELOPMENT FOR USES IN THE GROWTH OF THE TIF.
THE KEY PROJECTS WOULD INCLUDE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND THE, THE DEMONSTRATION OF CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE WITH WHAT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN DONE, AS WELL AS THE GROWTH PROJECTED FOR IT, THE PEDESTRIAN ROUTES SUCH AS THE FOREST, JUPITER DART STATION, AND HOW THOSE SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND, AND IMPLEMENTED INTO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA, AS WELL AS THE, THE, UH, SIXTH STREET AND AVENUES F AND E ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
ALSO THE ACQUISITION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE FIVE 19TH STREET, WHICH IS THE, UM, JONES HARDWARE PROJECT.
NEXT IS THE MANAGED DISTRICT SERVICES.
IT WOULD BE, UH, THE 39% OF THAT PI GRAPH YOU FIRST SAW, AND IT'S ABOUT 19.7 MILLION, WOULD THE GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES WOULD INCLUDE A, UH, STANDARD PLACE MAKING INITIATIVES, UH, BUT ALSO THE TEXAS DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, WHICH, UH, GARLAND HAS WON, UH, TWO, UH, AWARDS FOR IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
BUT ALSO ENTREPRENEURIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESSES SEEING DOWNTOWN MORE AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST A BUSINESS DISTRICT, SO THAT RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES HAVE THAT COOPERATION TOGETHER.
DISTRICT BRANDING AND PROMOTION, MARKET READINESS AND GROWTH OF THE DISTRICT OFFICE ARE THE GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE AS WELL AS AND GROW.
BUT THEN THE KEY PROJECTS WITHIN THAT ARE, ARE THE REGULAR MARKET ASSETS OR ASSESSMENTS, EXCUSE ME, AND PRO AND PROFILES.
UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANS AND THE MARKETING OF DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS AND PARK SUPPORT, UM, HAS RECEIVED SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE TIFF AT ABOUT 75%, UH, FOR TWO STAFFERS OF THEIR SALARY SO THAT THOSE, UH, COOPERATIVES COULD CONTINUE AND IMPROVE AS WELL AS SOME DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
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THE REVITALIZATION IN SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT 5% OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND IT'S 2.75 MILLION.UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, INCLUDE, UH, SOME PRIVATE INVESTMENTS WITH THE GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES, LONGEVITY OF PHYSICAL ASSETS IN THE ENTREPRENEURIAL ECOSYSTEM, WORKING WITH, UH, SOME BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO HELP THEM GROW, WHERE OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITY.
AND THESE KEY PROJECTS WITHIN THIS GENERAL OPPORTUNITY WOULD INCLUDE ALSO NOT JUST THE, UH, REVITALIZATION PROGRAM, BUT THE BUSINESS NEEDS AS WELL AS A SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN, HAS BEEN BEEN PROVIDING, UH, ASSISTANCE AND GROWTH TO BUSINESSES ON THE SQUARE.
UM, ENHANCED SQUARE PROGRAMMING, UH, IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE WHERE THE, IT'S NOT JUST WHERE THE FUN IS.
IT'S, IT'S SOME OF WHERE WE SEE MOST OF THE INITIAL IMPACT.
IT'S, IT'S ESPECIALLY EVEN SOME THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND RESIDENTS FIND OR SEE MOST READILY.
UH, THE GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES ARE DISTRICT-WIDE AND THE ACTIVATION IS, IS SOUGHT AFTER, BUT WE WANT TO DRIVE FEET ON THE STREET.
THIS IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE WANT TO DRIVE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE RESIDENCE AND NOT JUST THE BUSINESSES.
THE COMMERCE WITHIN DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ARE, BESIDES THE, UM, CONNECTION FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY WORKING TOGETHER.
WE WANT TO INCLUDE, UH, THE CULTURAL ARTS, WORKING WITH THEM IN DIFFERENT AREAS SUCH AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH MONTGOMERY PARK AND PARKS DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING, GETTING THOSE THINGS WORKED TOGETHER, BUT SPECIAL EVENTS AS WELL AS INCORPORATING THE USE OF THE SQUARE AND OTHER PLACES AROUND, AND THE HERITAGE CROSSING AREAS ESPECIALLY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE LIBRARY, BEING ABLE TO HELP INCLUDE SOME PARTICIPATION WITH THEM AS WELL.
THE FEED ON THE STREET IS, IS SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN REFERENCE FROM, UH, CONNECTION FROM COMMUNITY WRITTEN BY, UH, JANE JACOBS.
AND SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO, UH, IMPROVE UPON.
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE BAND TOGETHER ON THE SQUARE, ET CETERA, IS MAKING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE.
LASTLY, IN PUBLIC ART, THE GENERAL OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS THE PLACE MAKING CULTURAL EXPRESSION AND THE CREATIVE ENTREPRENEURS, UH, BUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE SQUARE, LOOKING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO ADD THAT PUBLIC ART TO LARGE SERVICES THAT WE COULD IN, UH, INCLUDE IN USING AREAS LIKE THE, THE SIDE OF ROACH FEED AND SEED, AS WELL AS OTHERS AROUND THE SQUARE.
KEY PROJECTS HERE WOULD INCLUDE THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, NOT JUST THE DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO INCLUDING DOWNTOWN, NOT FORSAKING ANYTHING THAT WE'VE CONTINUED OR STARTED THERE IN, IN SUCH AREAS SUCH AS THE MURALS, THE SCULPTURES, TEMPORARY INSTALLATIONS, BUT ALSO TRAVELING EXHIBITS, WHICH WOULD BETTER BE SUITED FOR THE FOREST JUPITER AREA AS WELL.
FINALLY, IS, IS ANY DISCUSSION OF OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE THE TIF BOARD, UH, NUMBER ONE AREA, THE TIF, NUMBER ONE AREA FOR DOWNTOWN AND FOR JUPITER? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE? VERY GOOD.
LET'S SEE, ANY QUESTIONS? GOT A FEW FOLKS COMING IN.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, JOSEPH.
UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TWO, YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFERENT AREAS DOWNTOWN AND FOR JUPITER, UM, THE SAME TIFF, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IN THE PAST, PRESENT AND FOR THE FUTURE, HOW THOSE MONIES ARE DIVIDED AND ALLOCATED, PERCENTAGE WISE OR OTHERWISE BETWEEN THE TWO? UH, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, WHICH IS ORIGINALLY WHERE I WAS APPOINTED.
UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE ONE WOULD BE PREFERRED OVER THE OTHER.
UH, RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR BEST IN THE LAST, UH, 10 YEARS TO FOCUS ON FOREST JUPITER AND NOT JUST LET DOWNTOWN BE OUR, UH, OUR ONLY FOCUS.
AND THAT'S BEEN WHERE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE UTILITY BOXES TO WRAP THOSE AND ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT EXPANSION.
SO THERE'S NOT A SET PROGRAMMING FOR ONE OR THE OTHER OF THE PARTS OF THE DISTRICT AND WOULD WELCOME ANY DIRECTION.
YEAH, 'CAUSE MY CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, RIGHT? IT JUST, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING AT ANY NUMBERS
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AND HOW MUCH HAS CONTRIBUTED ON EACH SIDE AND HOW MUCH EACH SIDE GETS.IT JUST, IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TIFF HAS EXPANDED JUST SO DOWNTOWN CAN SIPHON MORE, UM, THAT THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO CONTRADICT THAT.
WE'VE CONSIDERED THE PERCENTAGE WISE OF THE, THE TAX MONEY COMING IN FOR FOREST JUPITER, BY PERCENTAGE OF THE WHOLE A HUNDRED PERCENT FROM THE TIF BOARD AS A, OR THE TIF AREA AS A WHOLE? UH, IT HASN'T SEEMED FAIR, UH, EITHER WAY AS TO HOW THE MONEY'S BEEN PROGRAMMED OR HOW IT'S DIRECTED, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE, UH, OBLIGATED TO ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER.
UM, SO I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH OF THE TIF IS FUNDED FROM DART MONEY? UH, DART MONEY IS MAINLY THE TAX MONEY.
UH, AS FAR AS DART MONEY, THE TAXES THAT DART WOULD PAY FROM THE, THE TIF WEST SECTION THAT'S NOW A PART OF THE TIF ONE.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGES, MATT, WITH YOU OR THE MLS HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR US.
THE TIF IS NOT FUNDED IN ANY WAY FROM DART, UH, THE SALES TAXED FOR DART GOES STRICTLY TOWARDS DART PROJECTS.
THIS IS ALL JUST PROPERTY TAXES.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, THIS IS GONNA SOUND KIND OF RUDE, BUT WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING FOREST JUPITER IN WITH DOWNTOWN? LIKE, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR THOSE OF US THAT MIGHT NOT BE COMPLETELY SAVVY ON ALL THINGS TIFF? THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO CREATE A CONNECTION FROM THE DART LINE TO THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, FOR IT TO BE A TRANSIENT ORIENTED TIFF WHERE DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR IN BOTH FOREST JUPITER'S DART STATION AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN STATION.
THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH IT IS BECAUSE THE INCREMENTAL VALUES SINCE 2004 HAVE BEEN FLOWING INTO THIS TIFF.
IF YOU WERE NOT TO EXTEND IT BY, WITH ITS CURRENT BOUNDARIES, WE WOULD LOSE ALL THAT VALUE FOR THE TIFF FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO DO, IS THERE NO BENEFIT IN EXPANDING THE FOREST JUPITER AREA? IF WE'RE TALKING LIKE REDEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT AREA AND REDEVELOPMENT LIKE NO OTHER.
SO IF THERE'S PARTICULAR AREAS OF, OF THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, TYPICALLY WHAT YOU NEED FOR A TIFF IS A, A MAIN DRIVING PROJECT IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES.
BECAUSE THE TIFF, BASICALLY WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO IS GAIN MOMENTUM BY GETTING MORE DEVELOPMENTS, MAKING INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CREATE MORE INCREMENTAL VALUE SO THAT IT CONTINUES TO BUILD.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE COULD DO IN THE AREA OF THE FOREST JUPITER THAT THIS TIFF COULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT.
MEANING MOST OF IT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
BUT YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
IF COUNCIL, IS IT, IT'S COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OR THEY CAN CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES AS WELL.
IT'S JUST WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT AREA OF TOWN YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT AND WHAT PROJECTS WE WOULD OCCUR, WHAT WOULD OCCUR THERE.
AND THE TIFF CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME.
SO WE CAN EXPAND THESE, THIS IS A, A LIVING DOCUMENT, THIS PROJECT PLAN, THEY CAN CHANGE AT ANY TIME.
WE CAN CHANGE, USUALLY WHAT WE DO WITH THE DOWNTOWN IS THROUGH THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
WE ASK FOR THE BUDGET DOLLARS TO BE APPROVED AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT THIS IS, WE HAVE TO HAVE BY STATE LAW PROJECT PLAN SHOWING OUR, OUR INTENT FOR THE PLAN OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
IF I COULD ALSO ADD IN THESE FIVE DIFFERENT PROPOSED PROJECT AREAS, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN THE PROJECT DESCRIPTIONS THAT IF AN OPPORTUNITY WERE TO PRESENT ITSELF, PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY IN THE FOREST JUPITER INN, UM, WITH THE TIFF IMPROVEMENTS AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA, THE NARRATIVE SUPPORTS THAT.
IT'S JUST THAT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, THERE AREN'T NECESSARILY ANY KEY PROJECTS IDENTIFIED.
SO WE'RE ALMOST CREATING THAT CHANNEL, IF YOU WILL, SHOULD THAT OPPORTUNITY COME UP.
AND THEN AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE RIGHT TOOL TO USE.
AND SO WE ARE VERY EAGER TO GET DOWN INTO THAT OTHER END OF THE TIFF AND IDENTIFY SOME TARGET WALLS THERE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC ART OTHER THAN THE BOX WRAPS THAT WENT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UM, OF THOSE, UH, ER CAN I ASK YOU TO PULL YOUR MIC A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU? SORRY.
HOW MANY, UM, OF THE ELECTRICAL BOX WRAPS DID WE DO AT THE, ON THAT END OF THE TIF
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THREE WERE PAID FOR BY THE TIF AND THEN ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE ON INTERNATIONAL, WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED BY NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT WITHIN THE TIF BOUNDARIES.SO FOUR TOTAL WITHIN THAT PROJECT.
UM, SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT PERCENTAGE, THAT 2% OF PUBLIC ART EXPANDED A LITTLE MORE.
UM, YEAH, I I LOVE ALL OF THE ART PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED DOWNTOWN AND THE WRAPPING OF THE ELECTRICAL BOXES.
I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE SCULPTURES ESPECIALLY, BUT THOSE ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT $1 MILLION IS GOING TO COVER ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU HAVE LISTED IN YOUR KEY PROJECTS.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT PIECE OF THE PIE EXPANDED JUST A LITTLE BIT, IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TO THE WHOLE TEAM.
UM, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE, I THINK THE, EXCUSE ME, THE HITTING WAS REVITALIZATION IN SMALL BUSINESS.
YOU HAD A, AND I THINK IN YOUR PART, YOU, OR A PIE CHART AT 2%.
CAN YOU SHARE HOW DID, HOW DID, UH, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT PROPORTION FOR, FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, THE 2%? HOW DID, AND DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS ON HOW THAT HAS BEEN USED? BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW DID WE, HOW DID WE, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS? AND IT'S 2% OF THE PIE CHART, SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
SO IN REGARDS TO HOW THE NUMBER OR THE PERCENTAGE WAS ALLOCATED, IT'S JUST BASED ON, UM, WORKING WITH OUR, UH, CASHFLOW MODEL, IF YOU WILL.
BUT TO KIND OF EXPAND ON THE, THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THIS IS WHERE, UM, IN THE CURRENT PLAN, THE FACADE PROGRAM, WHICH THEN MORPHED INTO THE REVITALIZATION PROGRAM, THIS IS, THAT PROGRAM EXPANDED AND IT IS INTENDED TO CARRY ON SHOULD, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED CARRY ON AS IT IS NOW, WHICH IS YOUR 50 50 MATCHING GRANT FOR PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS, EXTERIOR AND, AND INTERIOR.
BUT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT NOT EVERY SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESS OWNER IS NECESSARILY IN THE POSITION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THEY'RE NOT READY TO, OR IN A POSITION TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT INTO A PHYSICAL PROPERTY.
SO THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IS A, UH, TARGETED, UH, NEEDS BASED ASSESSMENT WHERE WE'LL ACTUALLY MEET WITH THE BUSINESSES TO HEAR THEIR FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT WOULD BE A MORE APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM, RATHER THAN TELL THEM WHAT WE THINK THEY NEED.
UM, AND THEN THE FUNDING FROM THIS WOULD, UH, SUPPORT THOSE MORE CURATED OR TAILORED, UH, RESOURCES TO OFFER.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY DOWNTOWN OR FOREST JUPITER? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE? 'CAUSE YOU PART OF YOUR MAP UP THERE, YOU SAID YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE.
ARE YOU INCLUDING FUTURE? 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, DIRECTIONAL CHALLENGED, BUT I THINK ON THE WEST SIDE ON EXPANSION, IS THAT JUST FOR CURRENT SMALL BUSINESSES OR, OR FOR FUTURE? SO CURRENTLY AS IT'S PROPOSED, IT'S WITHIN THE, THE TIF ONE BOUNDARIES.
AND SINCE THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES, YES, SIR.
BUT GIVEN THAT THE, THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IS DEDICATED TO THE DOWNEND OF THE DISTRICT AT THIS TIME, IT WAS INTENDED FOR THOSE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUBDISTRICT, WHICH IS YOUR CURRENT ELIGIBLE AREA FOR THE REVITALIZATION PROGRAM.
BUT WE'RE OPEN TO FEEDBACK OF COURSE.
AND SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING EXPANSION, ANY DISCUSSIONS Y'ALL HAVE HAD REGARDING SOME POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, AS WE EXPAND, IF WE EXPAND THE TIF, THAT WE ALSO EXPAND THE IMPACT ON SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY LOCATED DOWNTOWN, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE, THAT ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, THAT ARE NOT PHYSICALLY LOCATED DOWNTOWN.
WERE IN GREAT NEED OF, UH, SUPPORTS.
ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE FUTURE AS WE EXPAND TO, TO EXPAND, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT BE QUOTE IN THE CURRENT PACKAGE.
ANY DISCUSSION? WE, WE ARE WORKING MUCH MORE CLOSELY WITH, WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT EVERY DAY.
UM, AND OUR INTENTIONS ARE TO, YOU KNOW, CAPITALIZE ON EXISTING RESOURCES AND, AND EFFORTS.
SO THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT MAY BE FOCUSED ON THOSE WITHIN THE HISTORIC SUBDISTRICT.
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WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE CHAMBER TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE, UM, SERVING ALL SMALL BUSINESSES AS IS FEASIBLE.AND, UH, YOU MENTIONED SOMEBODY, I THINK, I THINK THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED DISCUSSIONS, HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH SMALL BUSINESSES ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS OR REGULAR BASIS.
I THINK, I THINK I HEARD YOU CORRECT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AS PART OF THE, THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
ANY CONSIDERATION FOR, AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, OF EXPANDING THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO, TO, SO THAT, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES CAN HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH, WITH YOUR COMMITTEE, UH, AS WE MOVE TOWARD THE FUTURE SO THAT, SO THAT WE INCLUDE, UH, SOME FEEDBACK FROM ADDITIONAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND NOT THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF ANYBODY.
THIS IS JUST TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE AND TO INVITE SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, LISTEN FOR THE DISCUSSIONS.
ANY, ANY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON AT LEAST EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF GETTING FEEDBACK AS WE MAKE DECISIONS ON EXPANSION, FUNDING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT MOVING BEYOND OUR SET GROUP OF BUSINESSES TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.
THERE'S, UH, AS FAR AS PROGRAMMING AND BENEFIT TO SOME OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES, WE'RE HAVING TO BE CAREFUL WHO WE INCLUDE, UM, WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT IS, IS EXTENDING OUR BOUNDARIES WITHOUT APPROVAL.
BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IN, IN MY DESIRING TO INCLUDE IS YOUR, YOUR MENTION OF FEEDBACK.
WE WANNA START A DIALOGUE WITH THESE BUSINESS OWNERS BEFORE ANY EXPANSION OCCURS, SO WE KNOW HOW TO HELP THEM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, IS CREATE THAT COMMUNITY AND ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH THEM BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS SO WE KNOW HOW BEST TO SERVE THEM.
WELL, I, I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT.
I, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE IN A REACTIONARY POSTURE AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT BE INCLUDED THIS, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED AND THAT WELL, NO, IN THERE OR ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S SOME, UH, THAT ARE NOT AND ARE DOWNTOWN, UM, AREA, BUT I THINK WOULD HAVE SOME, SOME VALUABLE INPUT BECAUSE THERE, UH, WHERE HOPEFULLY THERE, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE COMING IN THOSE AREAS IN THE FUTURE.
SO TO INCLUDE THOSE BUSINESSES AND SOME DISCUSSIONS, GET THAT FEEDBACK NOW, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IN WHATEVER WE COME OUT WITH THE FOUND PRODUCT TO HEAR FROM THOSE BUSINESSES RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE CLEAR DEFINED PROJECTS AND THEN WE GO ASK THOSE BUSINESSES BOARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? THAT'S A LITTLE BIT AFTER THE FACT.
AND IF I COULD ADD, I WAS NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO THE CITY STAFF'S BUCKET OF THINGS TO DO.
NO, I'M NOT, THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SEEKING TO BE OUT AMONGST THE BUSINESS OWNERS, SPEAKING WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRETED WHAT YOU'VE SAID.
SO, SO, AND I'M, SO I'M TALKING TO YOU AS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD, AND YOU CAN PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
BUT APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? CAN YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE? JUST, THERE WE GO.
UH, COUNSEL, THIS IS A, MY OPINION, A GROSS INJUSTICE THAT'S OCCURRING HERE WITH THE FINANCING THAT'S GOING TOWARDS DOWNTOWN VERSUS THE REMAINING PORTION, THE FOUR JUPITER SECTION OF IT.
IT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE LAND AREA, AND ONLY FOUR, JUST OVER 4% OF THE EXPENDITURES HAVE GONE TO THAT SECTION OF IT.
I MEAN, UH, THREE WRAPS OF UTILITY BOXES AND A PLAYGROUND RENOVATION IS, IT'S A GROSS IN EQUITY.
IT IS, IT REALLY MAKES ME DISGUSTING TO SEE THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS MEANT FOR.
WE PUT ZERO MONEY INTO FINANCING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE FOREST JUPITER AREA TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S APARTMENTS THAT ARE, THAT BEEN FOUR YEARS OLD IN THAT BOUNDARY THAT WE COULD USE THE TIF MONEY TO PURCHASE AND CREATE A TRANSIT.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEEN THOSE $2 MILLION SPENT ON FIVE 19 STATE STREET USED THERE TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD DRIVE MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY THAN JUST, UH, THAT WHAT I BELIEVE STATE STREET WOULD DO, UH, IN THE, IN, EVEN IN THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
AND I APOLOGIZE, CHAIRMAN, YOU DESCRIBED IT AS TIFF LOOKING TO CREATE THE MOST IMPACT FOR DOWNTOWN.
YOU'RE LOOKING TO HELP BUSINESSES IN THE, THE DOWNTOWN AREA GROW.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SMALL DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESS PROGRAM TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES ON THE SQUARE.
ALL THE FOCUS EVEN IN THE PRESENTATION IS TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
IN THE LAST MEETING, I LISTENED TO THE MEETING, ONLY THREE MINUTES OF THE 45 MINUTE MEETING WERE EVEN MENTIONED TO FOR JUPITER SECTION.
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SUPPORT EXPANDING THIS TIFF UNTIL WE HAVE SOME PROMISES THAT SOME MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS THE FOREST JUPITER SECTION OF THIS.LET'S PARTNER WITH DART THAT, THAT, UH, PARKING LOT IS NEVER USED.
WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING BEFORE IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.
LET'S REDEVELOP THAT PARKING LOT INTO A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
PUT A PARKING GARAGE THERE AND THEY CAN SHARE THE PARKING WITH WHATEVER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT OCCURS THERE, ASKING FOR PROJECTS.
$0 FROM THE BUDGET THAT IS THE PROJECTED BUDGET THROUGH 20 20, 20 45 ARE ALLOCATED TO FOREST JUPITER.
IT, IT IS A GROSS INEQUITY, AND I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO BETTER FOR THAT FOUR JUPITER SECTION.
OH, DID YOU GET IN? OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, JUST, I FEEL STRONGLY THE SAME WAY, BUT, UM, JUST AS A, AS A REFRESHER, WE DID EXPAND THIS, UH, TIF ONE TO INCLUDE MONTGOMERY PARK.
WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? THAT WAS IN 20 20 20, UH, COVID YEAR.
UM, AND WE DID THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO REDO THAT PARK.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING IN LOOKING AT THIS, I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CAPTURING, UM, THE DRAPER, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD THING TO CAPTURE NEW REVENUE FROM.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US, UH, FIND SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS TO THE WEST, LIKE EXACTLY LIKE WE DID WITH MONTGOMERY PARK AND SAID, HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY DO.
I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DO THAT AND TO ENCOMPASS THAT IN A, A TIFF EXPANSION, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO FIND SOME PLACES WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PURCHASE MULTI-FAMILIES THAT ARE RUN DOWN.
UM, BUT WE CAN FIND SOME OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND I KNOW I'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND YES, THE DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN DOING THE MUSCLE WORK AS FAR AS CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO THE FUND, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE IT BE MORE SPECIFIC AND FOCUSED FOR US TO FIND SOME, IDENTIFY SOME PROJECTS THAT CAN BE DONE TO THE WEST AND MOVE SOME OF SOME OF THAT FUNDING THERE TO ACCOMPLISH SOME SPECIFIC THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE SOME OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIG ASK, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE WORKED HARD ON THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, MORE OF THIS FLOW TO THE WEST.
AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM MOORE.
JUST BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING PRESENTLY, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE COUNCIL IS ASKING, I HEARD THE WORD MASTER PLAN AT THIS POINT.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT PROJECTS HAPPENING IN THE FOREST JUPITER AREA TO REALLY BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT THE TIFF PUTTING MONIES THERE.
UH, IT'S, IT REMINDS ME OF, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITH RTC AND A WORD THAT I HAVE COME TO, UH, UH, APPRECIATE HERE LATELY CALLED LET.
AND, UH, THAT WORD MEANS THAT, UH, WHEN A PROJECT IS READY TO LET, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL FIND THE MONEY
AND SO IT'S, I'M HEARING A DISPARITY PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE FOREST JUPI AREA JUST DOES NOT HAVE THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS PRESENTLY, BUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA HAS.
BUT I'M ALSO HEARING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A MASTER PLAN BECOME PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY A MEANS, A WAY BY WHICH WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD TO ASSURE THAT THERE ARE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE TO ASSURE THAT THE, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA ARE INCLUDED.
THAT WE HEAR THEIR VOICES, AND THAT WE SPEND MONEY, WE ALLOCATE MONEY
IS THAT PART, COULD THAT BE PART OF, UH, THE DISCUSSION AS WE GO FORWARD? YES, SIR.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THIS PROJECT, WE MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE ON BEYOND THIS AND, UH, GET THIS PROJECT, UH, UH, ADVANCED TO THE YEARS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF INTO THE FUTURE, AND, UH, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
YEAH, MR. DRAKES, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, COUNSEL, JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FOREST JUPITER AREA.
UM, ONE THING THAT WAS DONE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE YEAR I TRIED TO PULL UP THE PLAN, BUT WE DID
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A, WE DID A MASTER PLAN FOR THE FOREST JUPITER AREA.UM, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLAN.
IT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL RENDERINGS AND PICTURES, AND RIGHT NOW IT IS COMPLETELY INFEASIBLE.
UM, THE, THERE, WHEN WE INJECT MONEY THROUGH A TIFF, UH, AND TRY TO INCENTIVIZE REDEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA, IT'S BECAUSE WE SEE THAT THERE ARE SEEDS OF OPPORTUNITY READY.
AND I THINK SOMETIME DURING THE 20 YEAR WINDOW, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AT THE FOREST JUPITER AREA.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SEEING IT.
USUALLY THERE'S INDICATORS OF, UM, OF READINESS FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT ALREADY TAKE TAKING PLACE.
UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING A LOT OF THAT IN THAT AREA.
DOES IT NEED TO HAPPEN? ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND I'M HEARING FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT YOU WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO FUND SOME KIND OF CATALYTIC OPPORTUNITY IN FOREST JUPITER.
UH, AGAIN, THAT WILL HAPPEN SOMETIME.
I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT DURING THE 20 YEARS OF THAT WE'RE EXTENDING THE TIFF.
UM, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE THE DIRECTION TO ALLOCATE, YOU KNOW, SOME FUNDS TOWARD THAT.
BUT, BUT JUST KNOW IT, FOREST JUPITER IS IN THE TIF.
AND SO ANYTIME DURING THAT 20 YEAR PERIOD, THIS COUNCIL CAN SAY, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER IT, UM, AND ALLOCATE SOME MONEY THERE.
SO JUST WANNA MANAGE EXPECTATIONS THAT IF WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY AMEND THE PLAN AND GO PUT SOME MONEY INTO THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, UM, AND, AND PLAN IT OUT IN THE TIFF.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S PROJECTS THERE THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND THAT THAT COULD CHANGE TOMORROW.
SOMEBODY COULD SHOW UP AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT A MULTI-FAMILY OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANNA PARTNER WITH DART ON, AND, AND DEVELOP A, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE, UH, THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN, UH, CREATED FOR FOREST JUPITER.
WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND SO I, I DON'T WANT TO, WE MAY ALLOCATE SOME MONEY IN THE PLAN, JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
SO JUST WANTED TO ADD, ADD SOME COMMENTARY TO THAT ABOUT THAT.
DEFINITELY HEAR Y'ALL WANTING TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO FOREST JUPITER.
UM, IT'S IN THE TIFF AND CERTAINLY HAS ACCESS TO THE SAME FUNDS THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA DOES AS WELL.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? QUESTION? HANG ON.
UH, SO I HAD NOT HEARD, UH, THAT, WELL, THERE WAS A, UH, MASTER PLAN OR SOME TYPE OF PLAN THAT HAD BEEN DONE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL.
UH, WERE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AWARE THAT IT WAS YOU WERE OKAY.
I, I WAS NOT AWARE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IF YOU WOULD DISTRIBUTE IT TO US, AND I DON'T GET ME WRONG EITHER.
WHEN THE CITY MANAGER SAYS
SO, UH, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US THEN? IS THAT PLAN JUST, IT'S GONNA SIT ON THE, IN THE CLOSET AND DRAW DUST AT THIS POINT? YES.
NOW, I WILL SAY THAT, AND, AND THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN, UH, REZONING AND LAND USE DECISIONS THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN A PART OF IN THAT AREA THAT WE'VE REFERRED TO THAT PLAN AND SAID, HEY, AT SOME POINT WE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS PLAN.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT MAKES ALL KINDS OF SENSE.
IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLAN.
IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT WE GOTTA MAKE IT POSSIBLE.
AND I, I JUST, THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY JUMPING AT US RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THAT GOES, BUT WE WILL, WE'LL SEND THE PLAN OUT SO EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF IT.
YEAH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BUZZ IN AGAIN.
UM, SO I WAS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT LAST SATURDAY AND THEY, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS BUILDING THAT WAS PURCHASED IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, VERY LITTLE RESIDENTIAL.
THEY TURNED IT INTO A THEATER AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PART OF A SUPER FUN SITE AT ONE TIME, OR PROBABLY STILL IS.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, THEY REDEVELOPED IT AND MADE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN THERE.
I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES AND NEAR THE FOREST JUPITER AREA TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS. THERE'S TONS OF STUFF THAT CAN BE DONE THAT WOULD JUST EVEN IMPROVE AESTHETICS, UM, WHETHER IT'S ART OR LANDSCAPING OR WHATEVER.
UM, THERE THAT AREA IS RIPE FOR OPPORTUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE JUST LOOK AT A COUPLE OF AREAS AROUND THERE, WE COULD DEFINITELY FIND MANY THINGS TO, UH, CREATE PROJECTS FOR.
OKAY, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, CAN I MAKE A COUPLE OF STATUTORY NOTES ABOUT CHAPTER
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THREE 11 AND THE TAX CODE AND COUNCIL'S ROLE VERSUS THE BOARD'S ROLE AND WHAT Y'ALL ARE, WHAT Y'ALL'S ACTUAL AUTHORITY IS HERE TONIGHT, AND EVEN INTERACTING WITH THE BOARD? UM, SO WHEN CHAPTER THREE 11 WAS PASSED, UH, WHICH INCLUDED THIS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ZONE, UM, UM, IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU READ THE LEGISLATIVE NOTES, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE LEGISLATURES HAD OR THAT CITIES WOULD CREATE THESE TIFS AND THEN TAKE THESE AND, AND DO IT IN AREAS WHERE THEY COULD TAKE THE MONEY AND, AND THEN USE THAT MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED, THAT TAX INCREMENT THAT, THAT THOSE TAXES ARE COLLECTING AND SPEND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR HAVE THE COUNCIL MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THAT MONEY'S SPENT.SO THEY WANTED TO BALANCE IT OUT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY SERVING ON THE BOARD, WHO ARE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THOSE AREAS AND LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION.
THE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS THE BOARD IS THE ONE TO, UH, CREATE THE PLAN, AND Y'ALL'S ROLE IS TO APPROVE THE PLAN OR NOT APPROVE THE PLAN.
BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA BE CONFUSING TONIGHT FROM WHAT I'M WATCHING, IS Y'ALL, EACH OF Y'ALL HAVE YOUR OWN IDEAS ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL WANT THE PLAN TO SAY.
AND Y'ALL WANT TO GET YOUR HANDS IN THERE AND TO AMEND THE PLAN.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT I'M CONFUSED.
I'M SITTING THERE LISTENING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR JOB'S GONNA BE GOING, LEAVING HERE TONIGHT WHEN THEY HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN SHOULD READ AND IT'S THEIR PLAN.
BUT Y'ALL ARE SAYING IT SEEMS TO BE A SUGGESTION.
AND SO MY SUGGESTION IS WHATEVER IDEAS Y'ALL COME UP UP WITH TONIGHT, AND Y'ALL GIVING THEM DIRECTION ON, ON A PLAN THAT Y'ALL WOULD APPROVE, WE NEED TO GET SOME CONSENSUS VOTES GOING.
BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING, TONIGHT'S GONNA BE VERY CONFUSING FOR THEM, IS GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A PLAN Y'ALL CAN APPROVE.
UM, AND KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT AGAIN, THE STATUTE CONTEMPLATED THAT IT'S THEIR PLAN.
IT'S Y'ALL'S JOB TO APPROVE IT.
IT'S NOT Y'ALL'S JOB NECESSARILY TO GET IN THE WEEDS OF THE PLAN.
COUNCILOR WILLIAMS, THANKS FOR MAYOR FOR LETTING ME IN A SECOND TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. CITY, CITY MANAGER.
I WAS WONDERING HOW LONG IT WOULD BE.
I, I SAW HIM SCRATCHING HIS EAR AND I KNEW HE'D BE UP SOON.
UM, BUT I HOPE AS I, AS MR. CHAIRMAN OPENED, OPENED THIS, I THINK HE'S ONE OF HIS FIRST WAS THAT HE WANTED SOME FEEDBACK FOR THAT'S, I HEARD HIM USE THAT TERM AND I HEARD OR TEAM USE THAT TERM.
AND SO, SO I, THE INTENT FROM HERE IS TO GIVE YOU THAT FEEDBACK.
UH, THANKS THAT THAT'S WHY HE'S OVER THERE TO, TO BRING CLARITY.
BUT, BUT THE INTENT OF THE COMMENTS IS TO, IS TO ANSWER WHAT YOUR APPEAL WAS.
I THOUGHT, CORRECT ME IF I'M, IF I'M WRONG, BUT I, BUT I THOUGHT SO THAT AS YOU GO BACK WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR BOARD AND YOU USE THAT, 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT FEEDBACK AS, AS THE BOARD SO CHOOSES ANYWAY AND COME AND COME BACK WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU OUTTA THE GATE.
AND I SAID CORRECTED AND, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME.
AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF WHICH I'M, THE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU ASKED FOR IS THAT NOT, I APOLOGIZE, I WANT YOUR THOUGHTS, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE FOR CONFUSION.
THIS WAS A PROPOSAL OF THE EXPANSION.
UM, AND SO THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN THAT THE BOARD HAS CREATED TO EXPAND, AND THIS IS AN IDEA TRYING TO CAST A VISION FOR THE, THE COUNCIL AS TO WHAT WOULD BE DONE, NOT SET IN STONE, BUT UH, AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECTED MONEY COULD BE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS AS TO HOW IT POSSIBLY COULD BE ALLOCATED WITH A TIF.
AND SO YOU ARE IN THAT CONTEXT AS THE CHAIR, AS CHAIRPERSON THAT WE MEET THE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL, BUT THE EXPECTATIONS OF YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR ASK OF YOUR PRESENTATION? WHAT WAS YOUR ASK GOING BACK TO YOUR BOARD? DID WE MEET, DID YOUR, ARE WE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF YOUR ASK? THE, YEAH, MY, MY REQUEST IS TO HAVE THE COUNSEL'S APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF THE LENGTH OF THE TIF TIME AND GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE TIF BOUNDARIES WOULD BE, BE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN.
SO TONIGHT YOU WANT AN APPROVAL OF THE THE PLAN? YES, SIR.
THE, THE TIME THAT THE TIP WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ITS BOUNDARIES.
SOMEBODY IS COUNCIL MEMBER T WELL, SINCE WE'RE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOUNDARIES, THIS IS JUST A MINOR ITEM.
UH, THE DRAPER, THERE'S A, THEY'RE HAVING ANOTHER PHASE OF THAT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
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ENCOMPASSED IN YOUR BOUNDARY THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE, BUT, UH, THAT'S A MINOR THING THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADDRESS.UM, COULD YOU SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THE, UH, OF THE BOUNDARY TO THE EAST A LITTLE BIT? UH, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THE NEW, UH, THE NEW FIRE STATION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WILL THERE BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, DO WE ENVISION THERE BEING OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BUILDING WITHIN THAT AREA? CORRECT.
THE INTENT IS FURTHER THERE TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASPECT AROUND THE FIRE STATION.
AND WILL THE FIRE STATION GET BENEFIT FROM THIS, FROM THE TIFF AS FAR AS THE, NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT IT IS IN THE TIF SO IT COULD, OKAY.
UM, I GUESS I, I'D REALLY, I'M TEMPTED TO DISCUSS THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THE ASK IS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES OVER IN THAT AREA.
UM, WHAT I SEE HERE SEEMS LOGICAL AS FAR AS THE EXPANSION OF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT'S ENCOMPASSING THE DIRECTION THAT EVERYTHING'S GROWING IN.
BUT I DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY RESERVATIONS AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES, AS TO THE BALANCE OF HOW WE USE THIS TIFF.
WAS THERE EVER HAS WELL, I'LL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, THANK YOU.
SO, UH, OUR ALL PHASES OF THE DRAPER, WILL THEY BE CAPTURED? THE MAP WENT AWAY, SO I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE LAST SLIDE.
DOES, DOES THE, DOES THE GET BLAH, DOES THAT NEW AREA CAPTURE ALL OF THE THREE PHASES OF THE DRAPER? IT SEEMS TO, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE.
IT'S THE MOTOR BANK AREA TO THE WEST WHERE IT'S RUNNING.
UM, SO WE, WE DID WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON DRAWING THESE BOUNDARIES, SO I'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH THEM AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING ALL THE NECESSARY PROPERTY.
SO, SO WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS AN EXPANSION OF THE TIFF AND AN EXTENSION OF THE TIMELINE.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE, THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO US.
UH, IT IS NOT PROJECT SPECIFIC, IT IS NOT AREA SPECIFIC OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
NOW ONE, UM, YES, I, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR WE DID THE 20 13, 20, 20 DECADE OLD.
WELL, NO WONDER I DON'T REMEMBER IT THEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT, IT IT'S WELL PAST, UH, ITS PRIME AND, AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED A BIT SINCE THEN.
UM, SO RE-ENGAGING THAT AND, AND TAKING ANOTHER LOOK.
I DO RECALL THAT, UH, AT THE TIME OF THAT PLAN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF HOPES AND DREAMS, BUT NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OVER THERE.
AND I, AND I, I'M GONNA VENTURE TO SAY THAT THAT PROBABLY HASN'T CHANGED A LOT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PLAN WAS, WAS SHELVED, IF YOU WILL.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXPANSION AREAS MAKE SENSE, UM, TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE TIF YES.
BUT YES, DO WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE MUCH MORE COGNIZANT OF HOW, UH, WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING THAT STUFF AS A BOARD, AS A CITY, AS, AS AS COMBINED? YES.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT AREA JUST HAS NOT LENT ITSELF, UH, VERY WELL TO, UH, ANY REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT, AND YES, IT IS.
THERE'S, THERE IS LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO REFOCUS ON.
UM, SO WHERE WE STAND TONIGHT, OR ACTUALLY, AND IT WILL COME UP TO, THIS WILL COME BACK TO US ON THE FIFTH FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW I WANT TO GO TO THE LAST SLIDE.
UM, ARE WE, ARE WE TIED TO THAT
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DATE? IF THAT DATE EXTENDS, IF WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR IF WE HAVE FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A, CAN WE EX CAN WE GO PAST THIS DECEMBER 5TH TIMELINE? YES, CERTAINLY.AND SO THAT, THAT THAT DATE IS NOT DRIVING ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW INTERNALLY AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE DATE IS BEING DRIVEN, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANY, THE DRAPER PROJECT WAS DISCUSSED.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION IN WHICH WAS SCHEDULED TO OCCUR NEXT YEAR, BUT DECEMBER 5TH, WE COULD PUSH IT BACK WHEN ONE MEETING.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THE, THAT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WITH THAT DECEMBER FIVE DAY THAT WE NEEDED TO ADHERE TO THAT WAS, LET ME CLARIFY MY, MY, MY PRIOR REMARKS.
IF COUNSEL'S DESIRE IS TO TIE THEIR APPROVAL OF THEIR PLAN, UM, TO HOW SOME OF THIS MONEY'S, UM, EX, UM, SPENT IN THE TIF, IF THAT'S THEIR DESIRE, THEN Y'ALL CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.
IT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED WHEN WE START TRYING TO FORCE THE BOARD TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO DO BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY HAVE NO REQUIREMENT TO GIVE Y'ALL A PLAN THAT Y'ALL ARE RECOMMENDING TO THEM.
IT, IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND, AND IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN, IT'S REALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN A RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S, THIS IS THE PLAN WE'VE COME UP WITH, APPROVE IT OR DON'T APPROVE IT, THEN Y'ALL CAN ALWAYS ENGAGE 'EM BACK.
THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING BACK.
IF, IF, IF THE IDEA OF COUNSEL IS WE'RE NOT READY TO APPROVE THIS EXPANSION YET, UM, NOT, OR THE EXTENSION OF TIME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY IT'S WORKED SO FAR.
WE NEED TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, WE NEED SOME COMMITMENTS OF SOME SORT BEFORE WE'RE READY TO APPROVE IT, THAT'S OKAY.
UM, BUT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA NEED SOMETHING SOLID TO GO BACK AND HE'S GONNA NEED SOMETHING TO GO BACK TO DISCUSS WITH HIS BOARD SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON WHETHER THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, UM, UM, WITH THEIR IDEAS.
SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THAT'S, UM, COMING FROM TONIGHT BEFORE WE DO ALL OF THAT, AND HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO HIS BOARD, NOW'S THE TIME TO TELL THEM WITH THE CONSENSUS VOTE, HEY, WE NEED MORE ARTWORK.
HEY, WE NEED THIS, WE NEED THAT, AND WE NEED TO TAKE CONSENSUS SO HE KNOWS WHAT TO TAKE BACK.
BUT IF COUNCIL'S, UM, DESIRE IS TO JUST APPROVE IT, THE EXPANSION, JUST THE EXPANSION AND THE, AND THE TERM LIMIT, THE, THE LENGTH OF IT, THEN, UM, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE HERE TO DO TONIGHT.
AND, UM, IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT WITHOUT HAVING ALL THOSE CONDITIONS PLACED ON IT, UM, WITHOUT HIM HAVING TO GO BACK WHEN THAT'S OKAY AS WELL.
WELL, WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT TONIGHT.
WE'RE JUST PUSHING IT FORWARD TO THE FED.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS OF SOME SORT.
LIKE I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS TIME I SPOKE, I CAN'T APPROVE THIS WITHOUT SEEING MORE MONEY GO DIRECTLY TO THEM.
THAT'S, I MADE THAT CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE NEED TO SEE MORE THAN THIS 4% FOR A THIRD OF THE LAND AREA.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE AREA EXPANDED NORTH TO WALNUT AND JUPITER INCLUDE THAT MAJOR SHOPPING CENTER THERE.
IF WE'RE EXPANDING THE LAND AREA IN AROUND DOWNTOWN, THERE'S A BIG COMMERCIAL CENTER JUST NORTH WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE DART STATION THERE THAT WE COULD EXPAND INTO, CAPTURE THAT VALUE AND HELP THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DESPERATELY NEED IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN THERE, A LOT OF HISPANIC BUSINESSES AND, UM, VIETNAMESE BUSINESS ALL IN THAT WHOLE AREA THAT COULD USE A LOT OF HELP.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO USE SOME OF THIS MONEY TO HELP THEM.
THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MONEY CAN GO THERE.
UH, I, I, I'VE READ THIS, THIS PLAN, I MEAN, THERE'S TALKING ABOUT STREET SCAPES, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT DOWNTOWN.
WE CAN IMPROVE STREET SCAPES AROUND THERE.
WE'RE DOING THE SAME WITH THE MEDICAL AREA RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY TOWARDS THIS AREA AND I NEED TO SAY THAT BEFORE I CAN IMPROVE IT.
MAY I TAKE A RISK AND OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I HEAR YOUR CONCERN.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THE WAY, AGAIN, THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT AREA AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED.
IF YOU SEE TIFF IMPROVEMENTS IN REDEVELOPMENT, THAT DOES NOT LIMIT US FROM SPENDING THAT MONEY DOWN IN THE FOREST JUPITER END.
AND THOSE KEY PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WE'RE JUST IDEAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE.
I MEAN, WE'LL, I UNDERSTAND, WE'LL UNDERSTAND, BUT IN THE PROJECTIONS, THERE'S $0 THAT ARE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING OVER THE WHOLE NEXT 20 YEARS, WHICH IS A HUGE INEQUITY.
AND, AND AGAIN, ONLY TO OFFER CLARIFICATION.
SO IN THE TIFF PROJECT AND FINANCE PLANNING THAT POINT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHERE IT, UM, DOES DROP OFF IT, THAT'S ALSO US RESTRUCTURING THE CURRENT, THE PREVIOUS BUCKETS.
SO THE PREVIOUS BUCKETS DID HAVE THAT ONE SOLELY DEDICATED TO FOREST JUPITER.
AND NOW TO OFFER CLARITY AND FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY, I I, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT ALL THESE BULLETS, 90% OF 'EM ARE FOR DOWNTOWN PROGRAMMING AND PROJECTS AND VERY LITTLE AND GOES TO, EVEN IN THE PRESENTATION WE RECEIVED, IT HAD THE DOWNTOWN TIFF NUMBER ONE.
IT'S THE FOUR STUPID TIFF DASH DOWNTOWN.
IT'S NOT JUST THE DOWNTOWN TIFF.
AND I, I WANNA MAKE THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
I NEED TO SEE MORE BEFORE I CAN IMPROVE IT.
I HOPE THAT I'VE GIVEN ENOUGH DIRECTION
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TOWARDS THE, THE BOARD.AND I DID MENTION THIS BRIEFLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS EQUITY GOES, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHICAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, HOW MUCH LAND IS IN EACH QUADRANT AND ALL THAT.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE BASED ON CONTRIBUTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIFF MONEY COMES FROM FOREST JUPITER COMPARED TO WHAT PERCENTAGE COMES FROM DOWNTOWN.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MORE EQUITABLE DIVISION THAN ACREAGE.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION TO THE FOREST AND JUPITER AND, AND NOT RELATED TO THIS OF COURSE.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
BUT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PLANS FOR WHAT WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE THE FOREST JUPITER AREA AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT, WHETHER THAT NEED, UH, YOU KNOW, A CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT OR WHETHER JUST A DISCUSSION AMONGST YOUR BOARD.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
'CAUSE WE DO WANNA SEE, WE WANNA SEE THE EQUITY, RIGHT.
AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT I, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR EVERYBODY UP HERE PRETTY MUCH, UM, BUT MYSELF PERSONALLY, I THINK THE EQUITY DIVISION SHOULD BE BASED UPON CONTRIBUTION, NOT BY ACREAGE.
I HAVE A LITTLE SIDEBAR HERE WITH CITY MANAGER.
SO, UM,
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WE COULD WRAP THEM UP IN ANOTHER 54 MINUTES.
SO, UH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN HAMMER THIS OUT ALL IN ONE SESSION HERE TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR A WHILE.
UH, SO, UH, I WANNA TRY TO CAPTURE SOME THOUGHTS, UM, BEFORE WE GET BACK HERE ON THE FIFTH.
AND THIS MAY HAVE TO PUSH TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, I GET THE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HEADED FOR.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, AS FAR AS I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY PUSHBACK ON THE TIMELINE.
I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THE TIME, THE, THE TIME EXTENSION.
ANY OPPOSITION TO WHERE WE'RE HEADED THERE.
UM, SO THE TIME EXTENSION, CHECK THAT OFF.
UH, NOW I DID, I HAVE HEARD, UH, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THE AREA.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE FIFTH, UH, TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED HERE THIS EVENING? AND TO THAT POINT, UM, IF, IF WE START CAPTURING MORE AREA, DOES THAT CHANGE THE MATH OR HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE MATH, I GUESS IS THE QUESTION? IF WE START CAPTURING MORE AREA, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THESE PERCENTAGES? IF WE START CAPTURING MORE AREA, THE, THE EXPANDED AREA'S, BASELINE YEAR WILL BE 2023, MEANING IT'LL START AT ZERO.
SO ANY NEW BOUNDARIES THAT WE EXPAND WITH WILL NOT GENERATE ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY UNTIL FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
OH,
SO IF WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT THOSE, UH, LOOK AT THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, UM, AND MAYBE HAVE, UH, MAYBE HAVE A SEPARATE OVERLAY OF THE FIRST, THE, THE CURRENT PRESENTATION EXPANSION AND THEN THESE ADDITIONAL AREAS.
IF THEY ARE, IF, IF THERE, IF THERE IS A FEASIBILITY TO THEM.
UM, IS THAT, AM I SEEING A YES OR A NO? YES.
I WAS LIKE TAKING GOOD NOTES,
UM, AND THEN, UH, SO WE'RE COVERED ON TIMELINE, UH, THAT ADDRESS AND THEN WE'RE ADDRESSING THE AREA, UH, THE CAPTURE AREA.
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AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UM, TRYING TO ADDRESS THE, THE BALANCE OF WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED.UM, I THINK ONE, I THINK SOME CLARITY, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THE ORIGINAL PLAN IS 10 YEARS OLD NOW, I THINK IT, I THINK ONCE I, ONCE EVERYBODY SEES IT, I THINK THAT WILL KIND OF SET THE TONE OF, OF THE POSSIBILITIES OVER THERE.
UM, AND IT WILL ALSO MAYBE HAVE, OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE REASON THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA TOO.
IT, IT, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
UM, BUT, UM, I THINK SEEING THAT PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF RIGHT WORDS HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PIE IN THE SKY 10 YEARS AGO, UM, VERSUS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY.
UM, UH, BUT I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE POSITION AT THIS POINT TO DO A FULL RECALCULATION OF THAT PLAN.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY SEE WHAT IT, WHAT IT WAS IN ITS ORIGINAL STATE.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, UH, THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ADDRESS IS, UH, HOW TO KEEP THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS EQUAL.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT IN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DOCUMENT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, TO PUT THAT IN, IN, WITH THESE PLANS.
AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.
WELL, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY AGREE ME, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR US TO CAPTURE, IF THAT IS THE INTENT TO GET, GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE A PLAN THAT HAS 30% OR WHATEVER THE, THE RATIO IS OF THE FUNDING IN THE FOREST JUPITER AREA.
AND WE BRING BACK A PLAN BASED OFF OF THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION BACK, ADMIT AT THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME.
COUNCILOR MORRIS, THANK YOU MAYOR.
AND I, I HAVE IN THE PAST ACTUALLY ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED THE, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN PRODUCED THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA, HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN PRODUCED THROUGH THE FOREST JUPITER AREA, AND THEN HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT.
AND I DO THINK, UM, MAYOR PROAM BASS'S IDEA OF, OF MAKING IT EQUITABLE, NOT BY ACREAGE, NOT BY SQUARE FEET, BUT BY, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY A PERCENTAGE THAT'S BEEN PUT IN V VERSUS SPENT AND JUST DIVIDE IT UP THAT WAY.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND LEGAL TO DO THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO FIND A WAY TO, UH, EITHER RECOMMEND OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF A RECOMMENDATION IS GOOD ENOUGH, BUT TO, UH, TO HAVE A PERCENTAGE CALLED OUT TO SAY, WE WANT THIS PERCENTAGE BASED ON HISTORY OF HOW MUCH HAS BEEN PRODUCED VERSUS HOW MUCH HAS BEEN REINVESTED IN THAT AREA, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND THAT TO ME SOUNDS EQUITABLE.
AND I DON'T SEE A WAY DOING IT STRICTLY BY SQUARE FEET.
THAT MEANS CERTAIN AREAS WILL BE PUTTING IN A LOT MORE MONEY AND RECEIVING A LOT LESS FROM IT.
I JUST, ANYWAY, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT, I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF CALLING THAT OUT.
COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, MATT, UH, PIGGYBACKING ON YOUR STATEMENT, LOOKING AT THAT CHART THERE, WHERE IT'S THIS PROPOSED PROJECT AREA, WOULD YOU SAY AGAIN IF, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE EXPANDED AREA, FOR THE NEW AREA, UH, AND I, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT AS FAR AS IMPACTS NOTHING BUT ACTUALLY HAPPENED OVER THERE FOR, WOULD YOU SAY, MAKE YOUR STATEMENT AGAIN ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE IMPACT NOW AND FUTURE YEARS.
YOU, YOU THREW OUT A NUMBER, 2024, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WOULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID PLEASE? SO WHEN YOU EXPAND THE AREA OF IT, SO THIS TIFF WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2004, AND IT'S BEEN BUILDING UP INCREMENTS SINCE THEN.
IF YOU EXPAND TO A NEW AREA, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STARTING AT THE BASELINE OF THE CURRENT YEAR THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED.
NOW, WHAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IS THAT WHEN YOU EXPAND THE AREA, ANY OF THE MONEY THAT'S IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BUCKET CAN NOW GO TO THAT AREA, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE UNTIL AN INVESTMENT OCCURS.
SO TYPICALLY WITH A TIF, THAT'S WHY THE TAX INCREMENTAL FINANCING, YOU'RE TRYING TO
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GET SEED MONEY FOR A LARGE PROJECT, AND THEN WHEN THAT LARGE PROJECT GETS COMPLETED, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL VALUE TO DO OTHER PROJECTS.IN OTHER WORDS, YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE BUCKET.
FOR A FUTURE BUCKET, WE TRY NOT TO START WITH AN EMPTY BUCKET.
WELL, WE WOULD BE STARTING ON AN EMPTY BUCKET, AND THAT'S WHY WE TYPICALLY LOOK FOR SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO PUT IN THE BUCKET.
AND IF WE AN EXPANDED AREA, WE ARE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING TO PUT IN THE BUCKET WITH THAT UNDER THE PROPOSED PROJECTS HERE.
WOULD ANY OF THOSE PERCENTAGES CHANGE THAT I'M LOOKING AT UP THERE? WOULD THAT IMPACT THAT THOSE, THAT THAT SLIDE UP THERE, WOULD THAT BE, IT WOULD IMPACT IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE THIS AREA OF WALNUT AND JUPITER.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUES ARE THERE NOW, SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT PROJECTIONS WE CAN COME UP WITH OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS FOR THAT.
BUT YES, JUST, JUST THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET MORE PROJECTS IN FOREST JUPITER, THESE PERCENTAGES WILL CHANGE.
BUT I THOUGHT THE EXPANSION MAP MAP ALSO REFLECTED SOME EXPANSION TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.
WHAT ABOUT THOSE, THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN FOREST JUPITER, BUT AS PART OF THE EXPANSION, ARE THEY CHANGING THE DOLLARS? YES, BECAUSE THERE'S KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE AREAS.
ARE THERE'S KNOWN PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS, SUCH AS THE DRAPER THAT WE DISCUSSED.
SO UNTIL THERE IS SOME KNOWN PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT FINISHMENT STATEMENT, UNTIL THERE IS KNOWN PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE PARTIC DO WE TYPICALLY DO NOT PROJECT NEW REVENUE.
WE NEED SOMETHING THAT WON'T, WE WON'T GENERATE REVENUE UNTIL INVESTMENT OCCURS.
WE NEED SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN JUST WHAT THAT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY PUTTING INTO THE TIFF.
THERE'S BEEN NO HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT THERE.
LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY WE PUT INTO DOWNTOWN, AND NOW WE'RE GETTING, IT'S GROWING A LOT.
WE JUST PAID $2 MILLION FOR STATE STREET THAT WE HOPE TO DEVELOP SOON.
WE NEED SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT THE BOARD CAN GIVE US TO FUND THIS.
LOOKING AT THAT MASTER PLAN, THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
NOW, THIS IS 10 YEARS OLD, BUT IT WAS THEN SAYING TOTAL PUBLIC INVESTMENT FOR TWO OF THE THREE OPTIONS OF THE PROJECTS WAS $1.5 MILLION OR $2.2 MILLION.
YOU PUT THAT TOWARDS TODAY'S DOLLARS WE HAVE FROM THE SLIDE UP THERE, $50.9 MILLION TO ALLOCATE OVER THE 20 YEARS.
LET'S PUT SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT FROM THAT $50 MILLION TOWARDS THE FOREST JUPITER AREA.
LET'S NOT DO IT BY WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN GENERATED.
ONLY THING ON THAT END IS THE DART STATION AND SOME OLDER APARTMENTS AND SOME SELF STORAGE BUILDING.
WE NEED SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO MAKE A PROJECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR THE STATE STREET.
$2 MILLION INVESTMENT, LET'S SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT OVER ON THE OTHER END SIGN SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.
LET'S PUT ANOTHER WRINKLE IN HERE.
I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY CON I'M, I'M GETTING CONCERNED NOW WHEN I BEGIN TO HEAR THAT WE WANT TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY EQUALLY SUCH THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PERCENTAGE, MAYBE A PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE AMOUNTS OF MONIES THAT, UH, EACH AREA IS PUTTING INTO THE POT VERSUS THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
AND THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, SUPPOSEDLY COME UP WITH A PROJECT THAT NECESSITATES THAT WE NEED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MONEY, BUT WE'VE GOT A PERCENTAGE OF THE MONEY ALLOCATED SUCH THAT WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY AGAIN, BASED ON THE LITTLE TIME THAT I'VE SPENT WITH THE RTC, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE COME DOWN THE STAND IS WE NEED TO HAVE AVAILABILITY.
THIS, THIS SHOULD BE ONE PROJECT.
IT REALLY SHOULD STILL CONTINUE TO BE ONE PROJECT.
AND JUST LIKE IN MY DISTRICT, YES, I I'M GOING TO ALWAYS BE FIGHTING FOR MY DISTRICT FIGHTING FOR MONEY TO GO THERE.
BUT EVERY TIME WE COME TO CIP AND ANYTHING ELSE WHERE WE REALLY THOUGH IN THE END ALLOCATE THE MONEY, WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY WHERE IT'S NEEDED, WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE READY TO LET, TO READY TO GO.
AND WHAT I'M THINKING HERE IS THAT IF WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT TRYING TO E EQUAL EQUALIZE THIS MONIES, WE'RE REALLY GONNA HURT OURSELVES WHEN WE COME TO A PROJECT THAT WE REALLY NEED X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, BUT WE CAN'T GET IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THIS PERCENTAGE OF THE MONEY FROM OVER HERE.
SO, LIKE I SAID THAT MAYBE THROW ANOTHER WRINKLE IN IT, BUT I'M JUST, I'M, I'M THINKING THAT THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR US AND MAYBE THAT'S
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THE WAY TO DO IT.CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? CAN YOU SPEAK TO SCENARIO THAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT? SURE.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS A CONCERN.
AND, AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH THESE TIFFS IS TO KEEP IT AND RE REMAIN FLEXIBLE.
SO YOU SEE SOME IDEAS UNDERNEATH ALL OF THESE, UH, SUBJECTS THAT WE HAD.
BUT IN GENERAL, IT IS A TIFF IMPROVEMENT REDEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE WANNA DO, BUT WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED THE FLEXIBILITY.
IF AN OPPORTUNITY COMES UP WITHIN THE ZONE, WE CAN ACT QUICKLY AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
ANOTHER THING WE TYPICALLY TRY TO DO NOW IS BRING FORWARD THE TIFF YEARLY PLAN TO THE, DURING THE OPERATING BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME YOU SEE THIS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
EVERY YEAR WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THIS PLAN WITH THE INTENTIONS FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO FUND THAT YEAR.
AND COUNCIL CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT.
UM, BREAKING IT UP BASED OFF OF DOLLARS WILL BE TOUGH BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU THAT FOREST JUPITER IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 35% OF THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN DUE TO SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT OCCURRED RIGHT OFF THE BAT IN 2004.
SO DOING THAT WOULD HAMPER SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMMITMENTS TO, SUCH AS THE STAFF THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR OUT OF THIS.
THERE'S THE COMMITMENTS FOR THE STATE STREET DEBT THAT WE'VE MADE, BUT THERE ARE ARE, UH, SOME OTHER FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE PLAN THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IF COUNCIL WISHES.
BUT YOUR CONCERN IS LEGITIMATE, AND THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO KEEP IT FLEXIBLE.
BUT, UH, WE'LL DO WHATEVER COUNCIL WISHES AND, AND TAKE THAT BACK TO THE BOARD.
I I, I PERSONALLY TRULY UNDERSTAND WHY THE COUNCILMAN WANTS TO PUT SOME MONEY BEHIND IT.
WHEN YOU PUT MONEY BEHIND IT, IT MAKES PEOPLE PUT THOUGHT INTO IT AND PUT ACTION INTO IT AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE FOREST JUPITER AREA PRESENTLY IS WE'VE GOT TO SOME TYPE OF WAY BRING ABOUT SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA.
WE'VE GOT TO BRING ABOUT SOME IDEAS.
WE'VE GOTTA BRING ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL, SOME, SOME MOTIVATION THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY WHEN IT'S NEEDED.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN ON THERE.
I MEAN, THAT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY INCLUDE FOREST, JUPITER AND, AND SOME OF THE THING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE.
THAT'S HOW YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS IS WITH A MASTER PLAN.
SO SINCE OURS IS SO UPDATED, UM, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, INCLUDING THAT IN YOUR PROPOSAL.
WAS LIKE, WAS THAT THE END OF THE SENTENCE? COUNCILOR REMORSE.
I WOULD APOLOGIZE FOR PUNCHING IN MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DONE IT, SO I FEEL FREE.
UM, SO, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE, UM, HIS OBSERVATION IS JUST AND WISE, AND I THINK OUR MOTIVATION IN WANTING TO ALLOCATE FUNDING IS PROTECTIVE OF FOREST, JUPITER.
WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN THERE, BUT I THINK HIS POINT BEING THIS IS, THIS IS ONE TIFF AND WE NEED FLEXIBILITY IS WHY.
SO I I I WILL WITHDRAW MY, UM, MY PREVIOUS FEELING THAT WE SHOULD ALLOCATE THINGS MORE STRICTLY.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT I WILL, UH, AGREE WITH HIM ON THAT.
THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY AND, AND FRANKLY TRUST THE BOARD, UM, AS FAR AS THESE KIND OF DECISIONS.
JUST KNOW THAT IT IS SOMETHING WE WANT, WE WANT TO SEE FOREST JUPITER THRIVE AND FLOURISH AND BE DEVELOPED.
SO, AND I WILL NOT PUNCH IN AGAIN, MAYOR.
FIRST OFF, JUST TO ADDRESS, YOU CAN PUNCH IN AS, AS LONG AS YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, YOU CAN PUNCH IN ALL NIGHT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES WE GET INTO THESE PINGING PONG, IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR EVERYBODY
IT'S, IT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THESE PINGING PONG MATCHES WHEN IT'S JUST, BUT NO, AS, AS LONG AS, AS NEW IDEAS, NEW THOUGHTS ARE BEING BROUGHT INTO DISCUSSION, THAT, THAT, THAT RULE DOES NOT BOTHER ME AT ALL.
SO, UH, I THINK WE HAVE CLEARED THE QUEUE.
I'M GONNA ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE, BEFORE I ATTEMPT
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TO MOVE FORWARD HERE.UM, OKAY, SO WE'VE COVERED THE EXTENSION.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THE EXPANSION.
UH, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THOUGHTS TO BE HAD ON THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF BALANCE.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM MOORE.
I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE OUT ON SOMETHING TRYING TO, TO KEEP SOMETHING.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR HERE, UH, THAT YOU CAN TAKE BACK TO THE BOARD THAT WE WANT TO REFOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE FOREST JUPITER SIDE OF THIS TIP.
I THINK THAT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
UM, YOU MENTIONED PUSHING THIS, UH, BACK TO THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER.
UM, IS THAT, AND THAT GIVES YOU TIME TO RECONNECT WITH THE BOARD AND, UH, BRING FORTH IT NEW PROPOSAL AND MEETING.
UM, SO DOES THAT TIMELINE STILL WORK MOVING FORWARD? MOVING TO THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER? WORK FOR YOU WORKS FOR ME.
I GUESS IT'LL BE, IF WE CAN GET A QUORUM, WE'LL NEED TO, YEAH, WE'LL NEED TO GET A QUORUM OF THE BOARD, BUT WE CAN, UH, ALERT COUNSEL IF THAT DOES NOT OCCUR.
AND WE, I, HOPEFULLY WE COULD GET THAT BOOKED BEFORE THE DECEMBER 5TH MEETING IN CASE WE NEED TO COME BACK ON THE FOURTH TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN, IS, GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, WITH THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER, CORRECT? IS CORRECT.
WHAT, WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE WILL APPROACH THE BOARD TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH FOR A QUORUM.
IF WE CANNOT, WE WILL COME BACK ON THE FOURTH TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN BEFORE THE FIFTH.
AND IF NOT, WE'LL JUST PUSH IT BACK TO THE SECOND MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO YES, LET'S REACH OUT TO THE BOARD, ASK THEM NICELY, TELL 'EM THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF THEY COULD THROW IN AN EXTRA MEETING.
UM, SO LET'S GET THAT ADDRESSED THROUGH THE BOARD.
UM, AND THEN, UH, AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, LET'S GET THE OLD, UM, PLAN SENT OUT TO STAFF OR TO COUNCIL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THIS PRESENTATION SENT OUT TO COUNSEL AS WELL.
ARE WE GOOD HERE? AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT.
BET YOU THIS ISN'T HOW YOU EXPECTED THIS TO GO, IS IT? I HAD NO EXPECTATIONS.
THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.
THAT'S A GOOD MINDSET TO HAVE.
WELL, IT WON'T, IT WON'T HAPPEN TO YOU AGAIN.
I, I, I DON'T PRETEND TO BE A PROPHET.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UM, THANK YOU AND THE BOARD, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE.
[4.b. Tax Increment Finance Zone #3]
ALL RIGHT.WE ARE GONNA JUMP INTO ITEM FOUR B, TAX INCREMENT, FINANCE ZONE NUMBER THREE,
AND IT SHOULD COUNSEL, UH, THE CHAIRPERSON, UH, FOR, FOR NUMBER THREE, UH, IS ALSO A PLAN COMMISSIONER AND THEY ARE MEETING NEXT DOOR.
UM, AND, UH, I DON'T, WE WERE GONNA TRY TO GET HIM IN HERE, BUT, UH, DID NOT FORESEE THAT ITEM FOUR A WOULD RUN, UH, AS LONG AS IT DID.
SO WE HAVE VICE CHAIR, UH, BOB DUCKWORTH WITH US HERE, UH, IN HIS PLACE.
ROCK AND ROLL, HUH? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, MAYOR LAMAY, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER REX.
UH, I'M BOB DUCKWORTH, CO-CHAIR OF THE, UH, TIF THREE BOARD AND REPRESENTING DISTRICT TWO.
UH, I, I'VE WRITTEN OUT WHAT I'M GONNA SAY HERE, SO I'M NOT GONNA ADLIB, UH, TO YOU.
UH, UH, I WILL SAY, I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
TIF ONE, WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD.
SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN AROUND THESE TIFF THINGS SINCE, I GUESS IT WAS IN MAYOR, UH, SPENCE WAS MAYOR WHEN HE THAT FIRST OCCURRED.
AND WE BUILT THE FIRST APARTMENT COMPLEX OUT OF THE FIRST TIF.
WE DID THE, UH, ENVELOPE OF THIS BUILDING OUT OF THE TIF FUND.
SO THESE FUNDS ARE A VALUABLE ASSET FOR, FOR OUR CITY, FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
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AND I, I THINK AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY STATED A WHILE AGO THERE SOMETIME, THE PEOPLE THAT SET THIS UP WERE PRETTY SMART BECAUSE THEY, THEY SET UP, MADE A VEHICLE SO THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL JUST CAN'T TAKE THE MONEY AND, AND DO IT.IT IT, IT CREATES A, A GIVE AND TAKE.
AND, AND WE DON'T, AS A, WE'RE A VOLUNTARY GROUP.
WE DON'T, WE, WE MEET FIVE OR SIX TIMES A YEAR.
SO A LOT OF THE PLANNING COMES FROM, FROM MATT AND HIS GROUP, UH, AND THEY, THEY MASSAGE US WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND WE EITHER AGREE OR DISAGREE OR DO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU DID TONIGHT, UH, TO GET THEM TO BRING INFORMATION TO US TO CONSIDER, UH, FOR WHAT COMES TO YOU.
WE DON'T SPEND MONEY, BUT WE RECOMMEND IT TO YOU.
AND THAT'S THE KEY OF THE TIF THREE IS YOU CAN'T SPEND IT UNLESS WE RECOMMEND IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SMART THING ABOUT THE WAY THAT WAS SET UP.
I THINK SO, UH, AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T SAY THAT.
I JUST SAY THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WORKS AND IF I'M WRONG, SOMEBODY CORRECT ME ON THAT.
SO A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, I THINK FROM THAT, IF I WERE ON THAT COMMITTEE, I WOULD SAY, YOU GUYS BRING US A LOT OF INFORMATION IN WRITING AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO OR BRING BACK TO YOU.
AND WE DON'T SURE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE SITUATION OF WHAT'S GOING IN AUSTIN OR WASHINGTON TODAY, WHERE, UH, YOU, YOU GET GROUPS FIGHTING AGAINST OTHER 'CAUSE WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD ALL THE TIME.
UH, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN DOWNTOWN, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IT HAS BEEN AWESOME.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT ALSO FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS.
SO I RAN THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN, WHEN DOWNTOWN WAS, WAS, UH, HEADING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
WE LIKED IT AND WE WANTED TO DO SO.
I, I FEEL PRIDE IN WHAT WE'VE GOT TODAY.
IT STARTED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
SO I WORKED WITH THE, UH, MANAGED THAT PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS, WORKED WITH THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AND, UH, PRIVATE, UH, CITY PRIVATE.
I RAISED $50,000 A YEAR, THE CITY.
ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO, LET'S, OKAY, LET'S FOCUS ON NUMBER THREE.
I'M SAYING ALL THIS TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME, SOME BACKGROUND OF, OF WHAT I HEARD DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT.
UH, IF YOU ASK ME, ARE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HOSPITAL, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA DO SPECIFIC THINGS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT COMES TO US IS WHAT COMES THROUGH STAFF, BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION TO BRING THAT TO US TO CONSIDER.
SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO OUR, OUR COMMITTEE MET ON OCTOBER THE 25TH, AND WE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A REVISED PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN, WHICH CONTEMPLATES EXPANDING BOUNDARIES AND PROVIDES THAT TAX INCREMENT REVENUE DERIVED FROM THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED, AND, AND KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU DISCUSSED A WHILE AGO, IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL DISTRICT, THE TAX FUNDS FROM THAT AREA THAT WAS SET UP BE USED IN THAT AREA.
SO WE WANNA MAINTAIN THE, MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THAT ORIGINAL PLAN, UH, AND THEN ADD THE OTHER TWO PLANS ON.
AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THAT'LL BE A DECISION Y'ALL MAKE, IS WHERE DO WE SPEND THE MONEY? BUT WE DON'T WANT TO AS, AS A, AS A BOARD, WE DON'T WANNA SEE THAT MONEY TAKEN OUT TO OTHER AREAS.
'CAUSE I THINK WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.
UH, WE RECOMMEND THE EX EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES IN THE ORIGINAL ZONE, UH, EXTEND THE TERMINATION DATE OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2049.
UH, I THINK THERE'S AN EXHIBIT A THAT WILL SHOW THE, THE, UH, RESTRICTED, UH, THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE GRAPH GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY.
AND, UH, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE, WE NEED TO, WE WANNA KEEP THAT AS AN, AS A HARMONIOUS AREA TO KEEP THOSE FUNDS IN.
UH, WE BELIEVE, UH, THAT, UH, MR. MATT CAN ACTUALLY PRESENT THE, THE PLAN TWO.
Y'ALL HAVE IT, UH, YOU'VE LOOKED AT, I'M SURE.
SO, UH, HE KNOWS A MUCH BETTER ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND THOSE THINGS AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL COME FROM THERE.
SO, UH, WE'D ASK YOU TO APPROVE THAT.
I'LL RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGH LEVEL ITEMS FOR THE PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, TO START THIS, THIS PARTICULAR TIFF IS KIND OF ON A TIME CRUNCH, JUST LIKE THE DOWNTOWN.
SO THE REAL INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE EXPANSION IN PLACE OF COUNCIL WISHES SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE INCREMENTAL VALUE THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO COME IN FOR IN 2024.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES OR THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT TIFF.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2018 ONCE THE BAYLOR HOSPITAL CLOSED ITS DOORS.
AND AT THE TIME WE HAD WHAT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SEED MONEY TONIGHT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE RIVER SET COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS A BLANK SPACE, THE WYRICK FARMS AT THE TIME, TO CAPTURE THE VALUE OF ALL THOSE NEW
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HOMES THAT WERE ABOUT TO BE BUILT.SO IN 2018, THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES DID NOT INCLUDE THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND THE REASON WHY IS, IS AT THE TIME BAYLOR HAD CLOSED ITS DOORS AND WAS ABOUT TO TURN OVER TO VA HOSPITAL, WHICH IS A TAX EXEMPT ENTITY.
SO THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD ASSAULT A NEGATIVE INCREMENT ONCE THAT OCCURRED.
SO THIS WAS KIND OF A TWO STEP PROCESS IN CREATING THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
THE FIRST WAS TO CAPTURE THE ESTIMATED $150 MILLION WORTH OF TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE RE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF RIVERSIDE.
AND THEN IN 2020, WE EXPANDED IT TO INCLUDE THE VA HOSPITAL.
THE PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO EXPAND THIS TIFF NORTH ON SHILOH ROAD TO ROUGHLY GEORGE BUSH AREA, AND THEN BACK DOWN SOUTH SHILOH ROAD TO SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE.
AND THE REASON WE WANT TO DO THAT IS IN THE NORTH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING OVER A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF VALUE TO COME IN FROM DATA CENTERS OFF ONE 90.
AND IN THE SOUTH, WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US ONCE 6 35 IS COMPLETE BY THE END OF 2025 TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA.
ONE THING WE ARE ASKING TO DO IS TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THIS TIF TO 2049, WHICH IS A 10 YEAR EXTENSION FROM ITS CURRENT DATE.
AS MENTIONED, SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AND I 6 35 IS ANTICIPATED TO BE A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IN GATEWAY INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ONE THING, UNDER THE CURRENT ENVISION GARLAND PLAN, THIS TIFF WILL ACTUALLY TOUCH FOUR SEPARATE CATALYST AREAS IN THE NORTH, THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, UH, CENTERVILLE MARKETPLACE AND SOUTH GARLAND.
AND, UM, AT THIS TIME, LIKE I MENTIONED, 6 35, WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A GATEWAY TO CREATE A REGIONAL DESTINATION IN THIS AREA.
SO THE INTENT IS REALLY TO CAPTURE VALUE FROM THE NORTH, DRIVE IT DOWN SOUTH, AND THEN ONCE SOUTH DEVELOPS, DRIVE THAT BACK NORTH.
BUT AS MR. DUCKWORTH MENTIONED, OUR INTENT AND THE BOARD'S INTENT WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS TIFF, WHICH WAS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, THE VALUES THAT OCCUR IN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA, STAY IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BUILT INTO THE FINANCE PLAN.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE FINANCE PLAN, IT'S REALLY READS LIKE IT'S TWO SEPARATE TIFFS.
SO YOU HAVE THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT $46.2 MILLION.
AND WE HAVE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE NORTH SOUTH EXPANSION, WHICH IS FOLLOWING SHILOH ROAD NORTH TO THE DATA CENTER AREA.
AND THEN BACK DOWN SOUTH, WE HAVE VERY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE ESTIMATES PLUGGED IN RIGHT NOW, 1% REVENUE GROWTH OF REAL PROPERTY.
AND, UM, IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, THE ONLY NEW CONSTRUCTION WE'RE ASSUMING IS THE RIVER SET, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, ALL REVENUES GENERATED IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT WILL BE EARMARKED FOR MEDICAL DISTRICT ONLY PROJECTS.
THE NORTH SOUTH EXPANSION RIGHT NOW IS ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN ABOUT $157.1 MILLION THROUGH 2049.
AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE A 1% GROWTH ASSUMPTION FOR THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THERE.
WE HAVE ABOUT A $306 MILLION ASSUMPTION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON DATA CENTERS AND ABOUT A $500 MILLION ASSUMPTION FOR DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH.
SO WITH ALL THOSE THREE ASSUMPTIONS, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 157.1 MILLION THROUGH 2049 FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE HAVE OUTLINED SOME PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FINANCE PLAN IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
WHEN THE WHEEL BOW RIVER SET DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED, THE INTENT WA WE ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM WORTH $3.1 MILLION.
AND AT THE TIME, THE INTENT WAS FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT TIFF TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD, THAT MONEY BACK, WHICH IS ABOUT $310,000 A YEAR, UH, I BELIEVE IN 2019, UH, WE ENTERED INTO A PARIAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR, UH, TO HELP WITH THE MEDICAL DISTRICT BRING IN TENANTS.
THE, THE MAXIMUM VALUE OF THAT'S ROUGHLY $2.3 MILLION OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.
I DO NOT THINK ALL THAT WILL BE SPENT THERE.
BUT BEING CONSERVATIVE, WE'VE BUILT THIS TO, IF THEY, THEY PERFORM AT THE MAX, WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO REIMBURSE.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, OUR LARGEST BUCKET, WHICH IS JUST FOR PUBLIC
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IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION IN THE VALIS PARK AREA.THIS IS, I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THIS IN, IN IN A LATER SLIDE, BUT THIS WOULD BE STREET SCAPING INFRASTRUCTURE PARKS ALL WITHIN THAT AREA WITH THE INTENT OF BEAUTIFYING THE AREA AND THE HOPE OF BRINGING, ENTICING A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL AT SOME POINT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME LAND ACQUISITION TO ROUND OUT THE LAND ACQUISITION WE'VE ALREADY DONE IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND THE NORTH SOUTH EXPANSION AT THIS TIME IS REALLY JUST A PLACEHOLDER.
SO WE'RE PROJECTING $157.1 MILLION AND WE HAVE JUST BASICALLY PUT A PLACE OVER FOR A FUTURE ED INITIATIVE.
OUR INTENT IS TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD WHEN THAT, THAT FLUSHES OUT AND BECOMES A REALITY.
AND THEN WE WILL COME TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, REVISE THE FINANCE PLAN TO INCLUDE THAT PROJECT.
BUT, BUT LIKE I SAID, SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, OUR INTENT RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO EXPAND, GET A FINANCE PLAN IN PLACE BASED OFF CHAPTER THREE 11, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK.
AND THE WHOLE REASON IS, IS SO WE CAN CAPTURE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN 2024.
SO ALL IN ALL, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ROUGHLY $200 MILLION FOR THIS TIFF.
BACK IN APRIL OF 2023, A YAKO CAME FORWARD WITH A MEDICAL DISTRICT LANDSCAPE DESIGN PLAN.
SO WE HAVE BEEN USING SOME OF THE ESTIMATES THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THIS FOR STREET SCAPE WAY, FINDING PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND SIGNAGE.
IT, THE MASTER PLAN BASICALLY BROKE OUT THINGS LIKE A WELLNESS GARDEN IN ANTICIPATION OF A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO RETAIL AND MIXED USE, AS WELL AS SOME SPATIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPING, ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, AND INCREASING THE RRO RIGHT OF WAY FOR PEDESTRIAN SPACES.
AND THE ONLY REASON I WANNA SHOW YOU THESE IS THIS IS KIND OF WHAT GUIDED US AS FAR AS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THIS, AGAIN, IS GOING TO HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STRIKE WHEN AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF VAGUELY PRESENTED IN THE FINANCE PLAN RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S ON PURPOSE BECAUSE WE WANT TO WAIT TILL WE GET MORE IN DEPTH INFORMATION FROM DEVELOPERS AND WE CAN MAKE A BETTER RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT.
BUT THIS WAS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOUTH GARLAND, THERE'S SOME KEY ASSETS IN SOUTH GARLAND.
WE CURRENTLY OWN ABOUT 34 ACRES AT THIS SITE.
SIX 30 FIVES ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE AT THE END OF 2025.
HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.
AND THERE'S A DART TRANSIT CENTER ON SITE.
SO HUGE MARKET OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
THIS LOCATION SERVES A DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHIC.
THE NORTHEAST DALLAS HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS HIGHER COMPARED TO LOOKING AT SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST DALLAS.
THERE'S SOME, A VIBRANT CORPORATE ECOSYSTEM IN THIS AREA, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO ME ANYWAY, 75 MILLION CARS PAST THIS INTERSECTION ANNUALLY.
SO MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU HEARD IN TIF ONE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR COUNSEL TO CONSIDER ON A, ON DECEMBER 5TH AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING EXPANSION OF THIS TIF THREE, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH, THIS SHILOH ROAD.
BASED ON THOSE BOUNDARIES I JUST SHOWED, EXTENDING THE TERMINATION DATE TO 2049, WHICH IS A 10 YEAR EXTENSION.
IT'S CURRENTLY SET TO EXPIRE IN 2039.
WE'VE UPDATED THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS BASED OFF OF WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS TIME AND THE ESTIMATED CAPTURE PRICE VALUE, THAT'S ALL IN THE PLAN.
AND WE'VE ALSO UPDATED THE TIF THREE PROJECT LIST AND DESCRIPTIONS AND COSTS BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW WITH THE INTENT OF BRINGING THAT BACK WHEN ITEMS BECOME MORE CLEAR.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE USED THEM ALL UP EARLIER.
UH, IF I MIGHT SAY, MATT DOES A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH OUR TIF COMMITTEE AND I, I APPRECIATE HIM SO MUCH AND, AND THE STAFF THAT, WHAT THEY BRING TO US TO BRING TO YOU.
FIRST BOB, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO YOU FOR MAKING IT PERFECTLY CLEAR,
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AND THAT, UH, HELPS ME ALSO TO ASK THIS QUESTION, UH, WHY, UH, WHY 2049? THE TIF DOESN'T END UNTIL 2039.
WHY THE 10 YEARS 2049? THE REASON WHY WE LOOK TO EXTEND THAT IS, IS TWOFOLD.
ONE, IF WE WERE TO EVER LOOK TO ISSUE BONDS THAT THIS TIF REVENUE SUPPORTS IT MORE, MOST LIKELY WILL BE 20 YEARS.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE PUSHED OUT THE DATE 10 YEARS TO, TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND SECOND IS TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
UH, IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE SOUTH AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE NORTH, WE KNOW SOME THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEAR TERM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO CAPTURE THE VALUE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
SO HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THEN, BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS WE ARE GO YOU, UH, THE, THE TIFF EXPANSION FROM, WHAT IS IT NORTHWEST OR NORTH TO SOUTH? WHAT WAS THE YEAH, BACK.
I DON'T THINK, YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY OR BE PUTTING MONEY ASIDE WITH THE NORTH SOUTH EXPANSION AND WE'VE KIND OF LIMITED OURSELVES AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SPENT, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, TO THE FOUR 6.2, WHICH IS GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE BOARD IS ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MONEY IS GOING WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
AND I GUESS I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING IN SOME TIMES NOW WHERE, UH, THE, UH, INFLATION IS SUCH THAT THESE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ARE CRAZY RIGHT NOW.
AND BY GIVING YOURSELF THAT TYPE OF TIME, I'M JUST WONDERING, DO YOU WANNA SHORTEN THAT TIME? DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE MAKE IT RATHER THAN 2010 YEARS SO WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN? UH, AGAIN, THE CONCERN, MY, MY CONCERN FROM A, JUST STRICTLY FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, AND IT'S, IF WE WERE TO NEED TO, WHICH WITH THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THESE AREAS, WE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO ISSUE BONDS AND ISSUING BONDS FOR 20 YEARS.
'CAUSE WE USUALLY MAKE IT BASED OFF OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE ASSET.
AND THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND OTHER FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD LAST ABOUT 20 YEARS.
AND SO WE WOULD WANNA STRETCH THAT OUT TO MATCH THOSE CASH FLOWS COMING IN.
SO STRICTLY THAT IS STRICTLY THE REASON FOR WHY I'VE REQUESTED THAT WE PUSH IT OUT 10 MORE YEARS SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO MORE PROJECTS AND ISSUE BONDS TO DO THAT AND MATCH IT TO A CASH FLOW COMING FROM THE TIFF.
IF I GIVE YOU A LITTLE IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY, I WOULD ADVISE YOU IF YOU GONNA BUY A HOUSE AND YOU SAY, I CAN PAY FOR IT IN 10 YEARS, I'D SAY PUT IT ON 20 JUST IN CASE.
BUT THE EXTRA, PAY IT OFF IN 10 IF YOU WANT TO.
SAME CASE HERE IN THE REVERSE THOUGH.
MATT'S WANTS US TO GET, HAVE 20 YEARS TO PAY OFF BONDS, EVEN IF WE MAY NOT NEED IT, BECAUSE THESE TWO CATALYST AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING INTO, UH, HE DOESN'T HAVE A MAGIC GLOBE TO LOOK IN.
IT MAY BE FIVE OR 6, 7, 10 YEARS BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
SO WE CAN BUILD UP MONEY, BUT THEN WE CAN SELL BONDS AND, AND MAKE THAT DREAM COME TRUE.
I THINK I USE THE TERM, THE MOVIE, UH, YOU BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FIELD FOOTBALL, THE BASEBALL FIELD, UH, IT, IT A LOT, THIS IS A LOT LIKE FINANCING PROPERTY OR IN, IN THE BANKING BUSINESS WE DID ONLY KIND OF IN I ALWAYS SAY NON-PROFITS, THE NUMBERS ARE BACKWARDS THE WAY WE DID IT, BUT IT WORKS THE SAME.
UH, AND, AND AM I RIGHT THAT, UH, THE NORTH AND SOUTH EXPANSION THOUGH, THAT MONEY IS KIND OF GONNA BE GROWING PRETTY MUCH VERSUS GOING INTO PROJECTS UPFRONT? IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? YEAH, THAT'S THE INTENT IS FOR IT TO BE GROWING, BUT, UH, UH, OUR, OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD A PROJECT SOON FOR SOUTH STILL LEARNING.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
THANK, AS MAYOR SAID, THE TIMELINE IS WE NEED TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT AND THE IRON'S HOT NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS IN ON DECEMBER 5TH.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? AND, UH, CHAIRMAN ABEL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO M WILLIAMS. THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, I WONDER WHY THIS ONE WASN'T FIRST
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THAT'S FIRST, BUT, UH, THANK YOU, SIR.I AM, I'M, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS SUPPORT AND THIS RECOMMENDATION, AND I'M GONNA BORROW SOME WORDS FROM THAT GREAT PHILOSOPHER, UH, ROBERT JOHN SMITH.
UM,
SEE
THEY ACTUALLY COMPLIMENT, COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER GOING, GOING DOWN.
AND IF NOTHING ELSE, PARTICULARLY ONE ON THE LEFT, YOU MENTIONED THE WORD COMMUNITY HOSPITAL, UH, IF NOTHING ELSE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU, THAT YOU MENTIONED, MATT, UM, AND, AND, AND THIS, AND SO I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR FROM I WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE COME FROM, THE ASHES, AND I LITERALLY, I THINK WE CAME OUTTA THE ASHES IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND THIS PRESENTATION.
SO I, AND I HAVE NO ISS NO PROBLEMS WITH THE TIMELINE, NO PROBLEMS WITH THE EXTENSION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OP OPPORTUNITIES ARE ENDLESS AND I THINK YOU NAILED IT.
UH, EVERYBODY'S ANTICIPATING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT AND THE NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR PREDICTING 6 35.
ONCE ALL THAT CONCRETE IS DRY SERVICE, ROADS ARE THERE, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GATES JUST BOEING OPEN DOWN THERE THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THIS WHOLE CITY.
SO I FULLY SUPPORT YOUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MAKE, MAKE A COMMENT.
UH, SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OUR DESIRES AS A, AS BRINGING TO YOU IS, IS FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT MEDICAL DISTRICT.
BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IF THESE TWO OTHER AREA CATALYST AREAS THROW OFF A LOT OF MONEY THEY DON'T NEED, AND WE HAVE A DREAM FOR A WHATEVER, WE CAN PULL SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO THAT AREA.
WE'RE JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW, WE, WE WOULD HOPE THAT THAT COUNCIL WOULD NOT RAID THAT AREA FOR DO THINGS ON THE OTHER ENDS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED IT.
THIS ONE WON'T, WON'T, WON'T DO THAT.
BUT, BUT, AND, AND LONG AS, UH, UH, THE GENTLEMAN'S IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SITTING IN THE MIDDLE, I DON'T THINK, UH, HE'D ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
SO, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
THANK YOU MR. DUCKWORTH, FOR, FOR ALL YOU DONE ALL THESE YEARS.
UH, SO IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE, SIR, RIGHT? SO I, I SUPPORT YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE.
UH, WE'LL STEP INTO THIS ONE, UH, LIKE WE DID THE LAST ONE.
UM, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY PUSHBACK.
UH, WE'RE ON THE TIME EXTENSION OR THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S BRING THIS ONE BACK ON THE FIFTH, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, FORMAL CONSIDERATION.
AND COUNSEL, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A SHORT RECESS BEFORE WE GET ON TO OUR NEXT ITEMS. UH, SO LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT, UH, 7 55, PLEASE.
WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS.
WE ARE IN THE NOVEMBER 13TH, 2023 WORK SESSION.
[4.c. Special Events Update]
RECESS TO ITEM FOUR C, SPECIAL EVENTS UPDATE.UM, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE A RECAP OF THE 2023 SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEN ALSO GIVE YOU A PROPOSED 2024 CALENDAR.
AND I AM GONNA START WITH A VIDEO RECAP, UM, STARTING WITH CHRISTMAS FROM LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, THEN WE'LL GET INTO A COUPLE OF MORE SLIDES OF DETAILS.
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NEIGHBOR ON THE SHOW, THEY SAY, NEIGHBOR FREEDOM IS ON THE WAY.I NEED ANOTHER HYDRATION DRINK.
IT'S GONNA BE THIS BARTLING GULER.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO ON THREE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BOY HE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT LEAST I CAN COUNT TO THREE.
SO I THINK YOU CAN TELL THAT WE HAD, UM, A REALLY FUN, UH, FULL CALENDAR IN 23, AND WE'RE NOT QUITE DONE, WHICH WE'LL GET TO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE HAPPENING THE REST OF THE YEAR, UM, HERE SHORTLY.
UM, I WANTED TO JUST START OFF BY MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNEW THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT, UM, MAKE THESE EVENTS COME TO FRUITION.
ANTONIA GARCIA AND LES REDMOND JUST REALLY AND TRULY POUR THEIR BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS INTO OUR EVENTS.
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UM, THEY HAVE A PASSION AND A DEDICATION TO ELEVATE THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY IS HOSTING, AND I THINK WE'VE REALLY SEEN THAT CHANGE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WHO WAS DOING ALL THE WORK.
UM, SO HERE IS, UM, A LIST OF THE 23 SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, THERE ARE SUPPORT OF DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT WE DON'T, THAT I DIDN'T LIST.
BUT TO KNOW THAT IF THE WATER DEPARTMENT CALLS US UP AND SAYS THEY'RE HAVING A LUNCHEON AND THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, 30 TABLES, THAT'S PART OF OUR, OUR DUTY AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
BUT WE PRODUCE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT OUR CITY PRODUCED EVENTS.
WE ALSO SUPPORT, UH, THIRD PARTY EVENTS.
AND AS I SAID, WE ASSIST ANY CITY DEPARTMENT THAT IS DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL.
IF THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS DEDICATING A TRAIL OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH, UM, THINK THAT SPECIAL EVENTS TOUCHED IT IN SOME WAY OR SOME MANNER.
I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT OFFICE HANDLES ALL OF THE OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY, UM, NONPROFIT, UH, JUST GENERAL PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO HOLD A SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY ARE NEEDING A PERMIT.
ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS GO THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR OFFICE.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY MANAGE THAT POLICE FIRE, UM, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, HEALTH NOISE, VARIANCE, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, NEED TO APPROVE A SPECIAL EVENT.
THEY COORDINATE ALL OF THAT, UH, AMONGST THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND ULTIMATELY, UM, ASSIST THAT, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNITY PERSON GETTING THAT SPECIAL PERMIT.
OUR PRO OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM PERMITTED AND TO BRING ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER FOR THAT.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT WE ARE ASSISTING THOSE GROUPS AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED A YEAR.
ALSO, JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I DO HAVE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, UM, ONE OF OUR KATRINA CONTEST, UM, ENTRIES FROM DIA.
THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, WE ADDED THIS AS A NEW ELEMENT.
UM, WE ARE GONNA REALLY GROW THAT PORTION OF DIA FOR NEXT YEAR.
IT REALLY BROUGHT A HUGE ELEVATED ELEMENT TO THAT EVENT.
THESE PEOPLE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
THEY WERE ELABORATE BEYOND BELIEF, THE COSTUMES FOR THE KATRINA CONTEST.
SO, UM, THEY ARE LATER IN THE EVENING AND WE REALLY SAW THE ATTENDANCE GROW LATER IN THE EVENING.
AND SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT AND SEE THAT NEXT YEAR.
'CAUSE IT TOTALLY BLEW ME AWAY, UM, ON HOW ELABORATE THE DRESS IS FOR.
AND THAT'S NOT EVEN ONE OF THE MORE, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE FOLKS COULD BARELY GET THROUGH THE DOORS OF THE ATRIUM.
YEAH, THIS PERSON DID NOT WIN.
I I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT EITHER.
AND IT WAS, THERE WAS ONE LADY WHO HAD HER HEADDRESS, I'M ESTIMATING PROBABLY WEIGHED 40 POUNDS
UH, THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES, I DIDN'T WANNA GO OVER EVERY SINGLE SPECIAL EVENT.
MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, BUT I WANTED TO CALL OUT THE ONES, UM, THAT WERE EITHER UNIQUE TO 23 OR NEW TO 23.
AND SO, UM, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR WE ASSISTED GPN AL PRODUCED THEIR HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.
IT WAS AN ALL DAY FESTIVAL WITH THREE DIFFERENT BANDS THAT COVERED EVERY SINGLE DECADE OF THE 100 YEARS.
SO IT WAS REALLY, UH, SPECIAL AND FUN AND, UM, JUST A GREAT WAY, UH, TO CELEBRATE THEIR HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY.
WE ALSO HAD OUR VERY FIRST ASIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE FESTIVAL HELD AT WINTERS, UM, PARK AMPHITHEATER.
GREAT USE OF THAT SPACE THAT, UM, I LOVE SEEING THAT THAT SPACE, UM, HAS KIND OF BEEN AWAKENED AGAIN AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF NOT HOLDING ANY EVENT.
UM, WE HAD OVER 18 DIFFERENT GROUPS REPRESENTING DIFFERENT COUNTRIES IN THE COLORFUL, UH, PARADE, UM, OF THE, UM, ASIAN HERITAGE.
UM, JUST TONS OF GREAT FOOD AND ALL KINDS OF DANCE, AND JUST AN INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE FESTIVAL.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY MOVING FORWARD WITH
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THAT FOR 24.AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEIR LOCATION IS STILL PENDING.
UM, BUT, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE A DECISION ON THAT, UH, VERY SHORTLY.
UM, WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER NEW, WHICH WAS THE FIRST RESPONDER SOCCER TOURNAMENT.
AND IT HAPPENED THE WEEK AFTER THE ASIAN SOCCER TOURNAMENT IN JULY.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT WARM, BUT THIS ONE WAS ONLY ONE DAY.
UM, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT BECAUSE IT WAS A FUNDRAISER.
EACH, UM, UM, TEAM HAD THEIR OWN, UM, CHARITY.
UM, DALLAS PD ACTUALLY CAME IN FIRST.
GARLAND PD CAME IN SECOND, AND AS A RESULT, UM, THE NEVER WALK ALONE FOUNDATION, UM, GOT SOME MONEY, UM, AS THEIR PARTICULAR CHARITY.
SO JUST A REALLY GREAT EVENT THAT I THINK IS GOING TO GROW AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, YOU ALL CAME TO THE GRAND OPENING.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE TIME THIS EVENING TO MAYBE POINT OUT A FEW SMALLER ACTIVATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN.
WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE A DRONE SHOW, PRETTY MUCH KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE THE SKATE, UM, S STUNT SHOW, BUT THERE WAS SOME SMALL LITTLE ACTIVATIONS THAT UNLESS YOU, UH, WERE REALLY WALKING THE FOOTPRINT AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT GARLAND HAS WONDERFUL CUISINE.
SO FOR THREE HOURS, FERRISS TEX MET HANDED OUT FOR FREE, UH, BRAISE SHORT RIBS OVER MASHED POTATOES.
UH, WE ALSO HAD 2 86 NOODLE HOUSE GIVING AWAY FREE SPRING ROLLS.
UM, WE HAD, UH, TRYING TO SHOWCASE OUR DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PAINTING WITH THE TWIST.
DID 56 FREE, UH, CANVAS DRAWINGS TO ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO SIT DOWN.
AND, UM, UM, LIKE YOU WOULD PAY TO GO TO PAINTING, UH, PAINTING WITH A TWIST.
YOU GOT TO DO THAT COMPLETELY FOR FREE.
AND FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT A REALLY BIG GUN-HO REMOTE CONTROL FAN, I HAVE TO SAY IT WAS THE BUSIEST CORNER, UM, OF THE ENTIRE FESTIVAL.
WE ALSO WANTED TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE, OUR OWN ARTS.
AND WE HAD, UH, THE GARLAND PICKERS, THE GARLAND SYMPHONY, THE GARLAND CIVIC THEATER, AND GARLAND SUMMER MUSICALS.
AND WE HAD A YOUNG COUPLE WHO WROTE A SONG, A SINGER SONGWRITER COUPLE WHO ACTUALLY WROTE A SONG ABOUT THE GARLAND SQUARE MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO, AS ALL PART OF THE PERFORMANCES THAT WE HAD ON THE, UH, ON THE DAY OF THE CELEBRATION.
SO YES, THE BIG THINGS WERE AWESOME AND SUPER PROUD OF THEM, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF OTHER, UH, SMALLER, UM, ELEMENTS TO IT TO JUST REALLY TRY TO BRING IT AS, UH, SPECIAL AND AS MEMORABLE AS POSSIBLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT, UM, CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE IS RETURNING TO THE SQUARE.
UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FUN NEW THINGS ADDED TO OUR LIST OF ACTIVATIONS THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE A SYNTHETIC OR, UM, ICE LIST, SKATING RINK, UH, THAT WE WILL BE ADDING, UM, TO THE FUN.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A CURLING LANE.
SO COME OUT AND, AND TRY YOUR HAND AT, AT BOTH OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
IT'LL BE NICE TO, UH, BRING IT BACK DOWN.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU DID, UM, VOTE ON SOME NO NEW DECOR.
SO THAT WILL ALSO BE, UM, UH, SHOWCASED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.
ALL RIGHT, SO OUR PROPOSED 2024 SCHEDULE IS, UM, JUST AS BUSY AS 2023.
WE HAVE CHANGED UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE MUSIC SCENE.
UM, WE, INSTEAD OF HAVING A SOUNDS OF SUMMER AND A BAND TOGETHER, WHICH WAS REALLY A CONSTRUCTION, UM, BAND TOGETHER, WAS REALLY KIND OF A CONSTRUCTION ACTIVATION TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DRIVING TRAFFIC DURING ACT, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT WE HAVE, UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH SO THAT WE KIND OF START TO GET A RHYTHM AND SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN COUNT ON.
SO THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH, A MUSIC MADE HERE, UM, THAT, THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW.
AND IT MAY BE ON THE MAIN STAGE, IT MAY BE UNDER THE SHADE PAVILION, IT MAY BE IN THE PLAZA, IT MAY BE IN THE ATRIUM.
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BUT IT IS THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH.AND START TO REALLY BUILD THAT PARTICULAR, UM, KIND OF REPUTATION.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST, UH, FRIDAY IN JANUARY, UM, WE HAVE A JIMMY BUFFET, UM, COVER BAND.
IT IS GOING TO BE IN THE ATRIUM, I'M SURE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE CHEESEBURGERS AND, UM, FLIP FLOPS AND JUST, UH, MARGARITAS.
AND, UM, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SUMMER IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY, UM, FOR FUN.
SO THAT WILL BE OUR VERY, VERY FIRST ONE.
UM, SO WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO JOIN US.
UM, ALL OF, UM, OUR OTHER, UM, EVENTS THAT, UM, THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE ARE LISTED.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, THE LANDMARK MUSEUM'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY, WHICH WILL BE A ONE OFF, ONE TIME FOR 2024.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE A JULY 4TH CELEBRATION THAT I KNOW MITCH WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT.
LEMME BACK UP, JUST SO MUSIC MADE HERE.
WHAT'S THE TIMES THREE? IT'LL BE ONCE IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
SO THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JANUARY.
WELL, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, YOU'VE, YOU CAN SEE, OOPS.
WE'VE GOT A LOT ON THE SCHEDULE.
THINGS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW.
THIS PAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST EVER ASIAN, ASIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE FESTIVAL.
JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WAS OUR SECOND ANNUAL.
OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE THIS NEXT SUMMER.
UM, OUR DIA DE LOS MARTOS HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY, OF COURSE, MLK PARADE, UH, LABOR DAY PARADE, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING FOR YEARS.
BUT WE'VE TAKEN ON A LOT OF TASKS HERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IS BRINGING A INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION BACK TO THE SQUARE.
WE'VE BEEN HOSTING IT, OF COURSE, PARTNERING WITH, NOT HOSTING IT, BUT PARTNERING WITH SIMON PROPERTIES OUT AT FARWELL TOWN CENTER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO OUR PLAN IS TO BRING IT BACK DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
WELL, I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE HOW MUCH POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE DRONE LIGHT SHOW.
SO WHAT WE WERE EXPLORING IS A MUCH LARGER, MORE DRONES, MORE LIGHTS LONGER IN LIEU OF A FIREWORKS CELEBRATION IN DOWNTOWN WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES WE HAVE THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIREWORKS LASER.
I MEAN, NOT A FIREWORKS, A LASER LIGHT SHOW.
UM, SO, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE A LOT OF OTHER ACTIVITIES ON THAT.
WE HADN'T FINALIZED THE EXACT DATE YET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THAT, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
SO, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING THERE.
UM, AND OF COURSE, CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE IS RETURNING TO DOWNTOWN AS WELL.
ALL OF THESE ARE MAJOR EVENTS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.
AND AGAIN, DANA, SHE, SHE DOES MENTION EVERYBODY AND SHE THINKS 'EM ALL, I THINK SHE THINKS 'EM ALL PERSONALLY.
BUT THESE ARE HUGE RESOURCE, UH, IMPACTS ON PARKS, DEPARTMENT, ON TRANSPORTATION, DEPARTMENT ON POLICE, ON, FIRE ON, I MEAN, AND THERE'S MANY, MANY OTHERS AND OTHERS THAT JUST VOLUNTEER LIKE ON THE GRAND OPENING TO COME AND HELP US.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND, UM, AS LONG AS COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH IT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS COMING BACK AT THE FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH USUALLY TYPICALLY IS THE FIRST ONE IN JANUARY, UH, WITH TWO NEW POSITIONS IN OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, DEPARTMENT, A THIRD POSITION SIMILAR TO ANTON AND LUS.
SO THERE WILL BE THREE OF THEM INSTEAD OF TWO WORKING FOR DANA.
AND THEN ANOTHER POSITION WITHIN THERE THAT HELPS PROCESS ALL THE INVOICES, THE PERMITS, THE SPECIAL EVENTS, PERMITS, OF COURSE, ANSWER THE PHONE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH IT.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK DANA SPENDS 90% OF HER TIME DOING THAT INSTEAD OF BEING DIRECT OR OVERSEEING ALL OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK THERE, BUT IT'S, WE'RE, WE'VE REACHED PEAK CAPACITY.
WE'RE, WE'RE BEYOND PEAK CAPACITY ALREADY.
AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING HOME DOWNTOWN WITH THE INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION.
AND OF COURSE, CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN TO, TO BRING IT BACK HOME ONCE WE GOT THE SQUARE OPEN AGAIN.
SO, UH, OF COURSE THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU AS COUNSEL FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
UH, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PLANS NOW TO DO IT.
SO, UM, YOU, YOU'VE GOT SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE THAT, THAT DANA'S PRESENTED BEFORE YOU.
UH, BUT AS, AS SHE STATED, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER
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SMALL THINGS THAT THEY DO.A HUNDRED OR SO SMALL EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS, NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, NONPROFITS, ALL OF THOSE AREN'T LISTED ON THIS LITTLE SHEET.
WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE FEEL.
IT'S NOT QUITE AS BUSY IN THE COLDER MONTHS, AT LEAST JANUARY, FEBRUARY, BUT BOY, IT RAMPS UP, YOU KNOW, FROM MARCH UNTIL WE REALLY REALLY TO DECEMBER.
I MEAN, IT IS JUST GOING NONSTOP WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO THIS, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS OUR PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR, UH, TO, TO PULL THAT OFF.
WE ARE GONNA NEED SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO TRY TO GET THERE.
THERE WILL BE IMPACTS ON THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S MANAGEABLE.
UM, BUT TO MANAGE EACH OF THESE PROJECTS AND TO KEEP UP WITH THE VOLUME OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DANA TALKED ABOUT, ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT GOES IN ON THE, UH, THE FIRST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH, PART OF THAT IS SCHEDULING.
YOU KNOW, YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO I THINK WE DID THURSDAY NIGHTS, WE'VE DONE DIFFERENT NIGHTS, DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT PART OF IT IS SCHEDULING AROUND ALL THE REST OF THE MASTER LIST.
THE MASTER CALENDAR THAT HAS EVERYTHING ON IT, AND THAT THAT WORKS.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK ON TOP OF ALL THE MAJOR EVENTS THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, WITH THAT, ANYTHING ELSE? DANA AND TIFFANY IS VERY INVOLVED IN ALL THIS.
SHE'S BEEN HERE HOW MANY MONTHS NOW? A COUPLE, THREE, THREE WHOLE MONTHS NOW.
AND SHE'S GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT AND ALL DONE.
AND THANK GOODNESS 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY OF IT.
SO, UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT AND BEING INVOLVED AS WELL.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN CELEBRATION WAS THE ACTIVATION YOU HAD BY THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION WHERE THEY HAD THAT PHOTO COLLAGE.
THERE WAS SO MUCH PARTICIPATION.
I THINK THEY RAN OUT OF PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO STICK PHOTOS BY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE O'CLOCK THAT DAY.
WE, WE TOOK 1100 PICTURES BY SIX O'CLOCK AND THAT FILLED IT, IT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE GOT INVOLVED.
THEY GET, THEY GOT TO TAKE A PICTURE HOME WITH THEM.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE, UH, UH, ACTIVATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE TO OTHER EVENTS AND KIND OF SHOW AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IT WAS JUST SUCH A COOL IDEA.
SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES CAN PARTICIPATE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CINCO DE MAYO.
IS THAT, UM, IS THE CITY GONNA START DRIVING THAT EVENT OR IS IT MORE OF AN ASSISTANCE THING LIKE IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS? IT'S, IT'S A THIRD PARTY APPLICANT, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF FOUR BIG THIRD PARTY APPLICANTS THAT WE SUPPORT IN A VERY LARGE MANNER.
AND IT IS, IT'S NOT A CITY SPONSORED, IT IS NOT CITY ASSISTED.
IT, IT'S CITY ASSISTED AND IT IS REQUESTING TO MOVE TO THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE.
AND THEN COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT FALL FEST IS? WELL,
UM, WE GOING TO TRY TO ELEVATE, UM, SORT OF THE GUZZLER OCTOBER FEST, UM, EVENT AND MAKE IT BE A LITTLE MORE MEANINGFUL, UM, IS THE PLAN
UM, SO I'M GONNA LET MY MAGICAL TEAM COME UP WITH SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD, UM, IDEAS, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU.
UH, UH, MS. DANNY, MS. DANA, YOU, YOU'RE BEING MODEST, UM, WATCHING YOU ALL YEAR OUT IN THE PARK ON THE GRASS BEHIND, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT 110, 114 STRETCH, AND YOU NEVER BLINKED.
WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.
'CAUSE WITHOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP OUT THERE ON THE GROUND, UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU NEVER QUIT
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AND IT, IT JUST TRICKLE DOWN TO YOUR STAFF, TO YOUR TEAM.EVERYBODY WAS HERE, SO, SO KUDOS TO YOU, TO YOU ON, ON, ON THAT.
AND, UH, I HAD A LITTLE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR MITCH.
I THOUGHT IN ALL THE PLANNING, SINCE HE HAS SUCH PULL WITH THE WORLD CHAMPIONS THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TROPHY PRESENTATION AND GALA NEXT YEAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PRINCE, HE'S LOST SOME OF HIS INFLUENCE QUICKLY.
UH, BUT I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU, DANA, TO SEE IF YOU CAN, UH, GET MITCH TO, TO WORK WITH THAT OUT.
WE HAD, WE HAD A NUMBER OF, UH, FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS TO HAVE TO RESTOCK FOOD, UH, AT THE OPENING, UH, ONE PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO AN EVENT WHERE A BARBECUE PLACE, UH, SOLD, UH, RAN OUTTA BRISKET SANDWICHES.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT WAS A GOOD PROBLEM, A PROBLEM, PROBLEM TO HAVE.
UM, MY QUESTION WITH, WITH ALL THE LOGISTICS INVOLVED IN, IN THIS, UH, DANA OR MI UH, MITCH, UM, PARKING IS A BIG CHALLENGE.
CAN YOU EITHER OF YOU KIND OF COMMENT ON JUST A SNIPPET OF HOW, IN IMPLEMENTING THE, THE PLANS AS YOU DO, UH, ANY, ANY NUGGETS OR THOUGHTS YOU WANTED, ANY THINGS YOU, YOU WERE GOING TO DO NEW OR DIFFERENTLY? PARTICULARLY WITH JUST BRINGING CHRISTMAS ON CHRISTMAS BACK DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS GONNA BE HUGE.
SO CAN ANY OF YOU SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? THAT ASPECT OF IT? YES.
WE'VE REACHED OUT TO EVERY, UM, PRIVATE BUSINESS, THE LARGE CHURCHES UP BY GLENBROOK THAT HAVE LARGER PARKING LOTS, AND WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM TO ALLOW GENERAL PUBLIC ON THOSE PARTICULAR DAYS ON, ON THE DAY OF THE EVENTS.
AND WE PUT OUT SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THAT.
UM, FOR THE GRAND OPENING, WE DID USE WILLIAMS STADIUM AND HAD NONSTOP, UM, SHUTTLES RUNNING ALL DAY LONG.
WE ARE NOT PLANNING THAT AT, UH, FOR CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE.
UM, WE MAY FIND THAT IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO BRING THAT IN AS AN ELEMENT AS WELL.
BUT WE ARE UTILIZING, UM, ALMOST EVERY PRIVATE BUSINESS.
AND LIKE I SAID, LARGE CHURCH LOT HAS AGREED TO ALLOW US TO USE THEIR LOT FOR THE DAY.
AND MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH ANOTHER POP POPULAR, UH, FEATURE WAS FOOD TRUCKS.
UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO, THEY WERE VERY, VERY POPULAR AT NOT JUST DOWNTOWN EVENTS, THE OTHER EVENTS, UH, SPRING CREEK, THE OTHER EVENTS AROUND THE CITY.
SO THAT PIECE OF IT, ARE YOU LOOKING AT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY OR JUST KIND OF CONTINUING THE, THE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH, WITH THOSE? 'CAUSE IT WAS A VERY POPULAR AT EVERY EVENT THAT, THAT WE HAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO, UM, I LIKE TO SAY THAT THE GRAND OPENING WAS A PRACTICE RUN.
UM, NOTHING LIKE PRACTICING ON THE LARGEST EVENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN EVER.
UM, SO YES, UM, THIS, UH, ACTUAL REDESIGN OF THE SQUARE WAS BUILT FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO ACTUALLY PLUG IN, UH, DIRECTLY POWER FOOD, TRUCK POWER DIRECTLY ON THE PARK SIDE AND ALSO ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE SQUARE.
SO FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'LL BE UTILIZING THAT DURING CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE, WE WERE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE GRAND OPENING TO NOT BLOCK ANY VISION OF THE MAIN STAGE BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE CROWD WANTING TO SEE THE MAIN STAGE.
SO WE PUT THE FOOD TRUCKS MORE ON A PERIMETER AND HAD THEM KIND OF BE SELF-SUFFICIENT WITH GENERATORS.
BUT FOR CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE, THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PLUG IN THE WAY THAT THE REDESIGN WAS MEANT TO BE USED.
UM, AND WE HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS.
UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PERMITTING, UH, WITH DALLAS COUNTY IS NOW IN CHARGE OF FOOD TRUCKS, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THAT'S GOING SMOOTHLY.
THEY'VE MADE, THEY'VE MADE STRIDES, SERIOUS STRIDES IN THE PAST MONTH IN THE LIST OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE NOW APPROVED BY DALLAS COUNTY HAS EXPONENTIALLY GROWN.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MUCH LARGER POOL OF FOOD TRUCKS TO PULL FROM.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE A LARGER NUMBER, BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T GET THAT NUMBER TO THE DEGREE THAT IT HURTS OUR BRICK AND MORTARS.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PLAY VERY CAREFULLY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE ATTENDEES, BUT WE DON'T WANNA HURT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.
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A, IT'S A THIN LINE THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY VERY CAREFULLY TO STAY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.'CAUSE I DID GET THAT QUESTION THAT THE, ON THE REAL QUESTION I GOT FROM THE OPENING SQUARE WAS THE LOCATION OF THE FOOD TRUCKS.
SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT, UH, TO US.
WELL, I GUESS I'LL PILE ON WITH SOME MORE KUDOS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE OPENING OF THE SQUARE.
IT WAS FANTASTIC AS GOOD OF AN EVENT AS I COULD POSSIBLY, I COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE.
BUT, UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE BEING TOO MODEST ON IS YOUR SUPPORT OF THE NON-PROFITS AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.
YOU HAVE THOSE A HUNDRED LESSER EVENTS.
THAT'S AN, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE LOGISTICS OF AN EVENT EVERY THREE DAYS, ROUGHLY.
AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, FRIENDS OF GARLAND'S MAGIC 11TH STREET, THEY'RE HAVING CHRISTMAS TOWN AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE HAVING OUR CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO WORK THE LOGISTICS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HANDLE THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL BIT ON IT ALSO.
AND SO JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE, YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING.
MM-HMM,
WE'RE GLAD, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THEM.
UM, THEY, THEY BRING ANOTHER ELEMENT TO IT.
IT'S GONNA MAKE IT A SPECIAL NIGHT.
WELL, YOU KNOW HOW IMPRESSED I AM,
THE, UH, THE GRAND OPENING OF THE SQUARE, IT WAS AS CLOSE TO FLAWLESS AS I HAVE EVER SEEN ANY EVENT BE IN THIS TOWN OR ANY OTHER TOWN.
SO I WILL TELL YOU, COUNSEL, THE ONLY COMPLAINT, THE ONLY COMPLAINT, AND I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.
THE ONLY COMPLAINT I GOT FROM THERE LASTED ABOUT FIVE SECONDS.
AND IT WAS WHEN OUR NEW DOWNTOWN BATHROOMS THAT HAVE AUTOMATIC LOCKS AUTOMATICALLY LOCKED AT EIGHT 30 WHEN THERE WAS A CROWD.
AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE STANDING IN LINE TEXTED ME AND SAID, HEY, THE BATHROOM'S LOCKED.
I TEXTED DANA AND I, IT WAS LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES LATER FIXED.
SO REMEMBER AS A PRACTICE RUN
I MEAN, FOR THAT TO BE THE ONE AND ONLY COMPLAINT OF THE WHOLE NIGHT AND IT BEING FIXED IN I MEAN MINUTES.
UH, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY CONCERN WITH YOUR THING TONIGHT IS TALKING ABOUT ELEVATING THE GARLAND GULER
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU COULD ELEVATE SUCH A HIGH AND CLASSY EVENT ANY HIGHER THAN IT IS, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE YOU REACH OUT TO, UH, FORMER COUNCILMAN ROBERT JOHN SMITH, MAYBE FOR POINTERS ABOUT HOW YOU COULD ELEVATE IT
I MEAN, YEAH, EVERYBODY'S GIVEN YOU ACCOLADES AND OF COURSE WELL DESERVED FOR YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM.
UM, QUESTION I HAVE IS, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE DESIGNED THE SQUARE TO ACCOMMODATE FOOD TRUCKS FOR EVENTS.
DO WE HAVE IN OUR PROCEDURES, UM, ANY PROTOCOL TO MAKE SURE THE FOOD TRUCKS WE'RE INVITING DON'T, UH, CONFLICT WITH THE CUISINE OF RESTAURANTS ON THE SQUARE? UH, WE TRY REALLY HARD TO NOT HAVE MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS THAT SERVE THE SAME TYPE OF FOOD OR, UM, WE CERTAINLY DON'T PUT A BARBECUE FOOD TRUCK RIGHT IN FRONT OF INTRINSIC, BUT WE MAY HAVE BARBECUE, BUT THEY WOULD BE ACROSS THE WAY.
AND THE SAME WITH MEXICAN FOOD.
WE WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THAT RIGHT NEXT TO DOSE BANDERAS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE, WE, WE COULD HAVE ONE MEXICAN FOOD TRUCK, ONE BARBECUE FOOD TRUCK.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE OKAY.
AND WE TRY REALLY HARD TO HAVE A DIVERSE AMOUNT OF FOOD TRUCKS SO THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, AFTER THE FIRST TIME WE DO THIS, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE DOWNTOWN RESTAURANTS TO SEE HOW, HOW, UH, HOW, HOW WELL IT WAS RECEIVED.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY VERY CONNECTED TO WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS THEY'RE GETTING.
I KNOW FOR THE GRAND OPENING, WE DID NOT HAVE, UM, AS MANY FOOD TRUCKS AS WE NEEDED.
UM, BUT IN RESPONSE TO THAT, IT WAS CARRIE'S HIGHEST SALES, UH, BY ABOUT 5:00 PM INTRINSIC'S HIGHEST SALES.
SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY DID PUSH THE BUSINESS TOWARDS THE BRICK AND MORTAR FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT.
DO BANDOS, ACTUALLY MAX SAID THE SAME THING BY, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE 30, HE HAD EXCEEDED HIS HIGHEST SALES EVER.
SO YEAH, THE RESTAURANTS ON THAT, BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 10,000 PEOPLE THERE THAT DAY.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN ON ANY, UH, ON ANOTHER
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EVENT COMPARED TO THE NUMBERS WE HAVE.I, I WILL DEFINITELY STAY VERY CONNECTED TO THEM.
UH, LOOKS LIKE WE'VE CLEARED THE QUEUE.
UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 2024 CALENDAR.
UM, AND, UH, DANA, ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
I SEEM TO SPEND, FORTUNATELY, UH, I SPEND MORE TIME WITH YOU GUYS THAN I DO WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY MANAGER,
SO, BUT I, I SEE YOU GUYS, UH, YOUR TEAM, YOUR TEAM IS THERE LONG BEFORE WE GET THERE.
AND THEY'RE THERE LONG AFTER WE'RE GONE.
UH, AND THEY DO AN ABSOLUTE FANTASTIC JOB.
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MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR D STREET DEPARTMENT, UPDATE, ANOTHER HAPPY, FUN GROUP.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING TONY AT LEAST FIVE MONTHS BEFORE YOU REQUESTED, UM, A PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT INITIATIVES THAT ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THE STREET PROGRAM.
I MEAN, THE STREET DEPARTMENT, WE ARE ALL PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH PROJECTS THAT STREETS DOES, THE, YOU KNOW, POTHOLES, THE STREET REPAIRS, ET CETERA.
WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL ALSO BE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON, UH, GIVING YOU SOME STATISTICAL DATA, UM, BASED ON CURRENT STREET INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO TONY IRVIN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE STREET ASSETS THAT THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING.
AND WE HAVE A SLIDE OR TWO TO KIND OF RECAP AT A HIGH LEVEL OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN TERMS OF, UH, UM, OUR STREET STREET REPAIR AND, UH, STREET RECONSTRUCTION PRO PROGRAMS. UM, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE WILL ALSO COVER SOME OF, UH, OUR PRIMARY OPERATIONS THAT GO BEYOND, UH, THE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, SPECIFICALLY STREET INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO REPAIRS AND RECONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE YOU A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF OUR 24 WORK PLAN AND PROVIDE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF SHARING INFORMATION, UM, FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE WILL, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX, WHICH WE HAD COVERED BACK IN, UH, THE BUDGET WORK SESSION IN, UH, AUGUST.
SO WE RECORD AND TRACK OUR STREET ASSETS PRIMARILY BY, UH, TWO COMPONENTS HERE, CENTER, CENTER, LINE MILES AND LANE MILES.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON IT, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT JUST TO HELP YOU ON, ON WHAT THOSE MEAN, UH, THIS EXHIBIT AT THE BOTTOM KIND OF, UH, ILLUSTRATES IT.
IF YOU, UM, TAKE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN POINT A AND POINT B IN THE EXHIBIT, THAT WOULD REALLY REPRESENT YOUR CENTER LINE LENGTH.
AND YOU TAKE YOUR CENTER LINE LENGTH AND MULTIPLY AT TIMES YOUR NUMBER OF LANES IN ORDER TO GET THE TOTAL LANE MILES, UH, FOR ANY OF THE STREET ASSETS.
SO THE SUMMARY HERE PROVIDES YOU WITH, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, OF LANE MILES, UH, FOR THE CITY, WHICH, UH, BORDERS AROUND 2,700 LANE MILES.
UM, THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE BEING, UH, RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
AND SO THE LAST SLIDE CAN PROVIDED SOME, UH, WHAT WE CALL FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS, RESIDENTIAL ARTERIAL COLLECTOR, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS FOR, FOR THOSE WHO WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS MEAN.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A HIERARCHICAL, UM, TYPE STRUCTURE FOR A ROADWAY
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NETWORK.AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE A, A PYRAMID, UH, THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID WOULD, WOULD REPRESENT, UH, THOSE, THOSE STREETS OR THOSE ROADWAYS THAT, UM, CARRY THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT REPRESENT THE LOWEST NUMBER OF ROADS WITHIN YOUR CITY.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PYRAMID, IT WOULD REPRESENT, UH, THOSE STREETS THAT CARRY THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, BUT REPRESENT THE LARGEST QUANTITY OF ROADWAYS IN THE NETWORK.
SO, THINKING ABOUT, UH, THESE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS, YOU COULD THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF A, A CHAIN CONNECTION WHERE THE LOCAL OR RESIDENTIAL STREETS CONNECT TO THE CONNECTOR, THE COLLECTOR STREETS, THE COLLECTORS CONNECT TO THE ARTERIAL STREETS, AND THEN THE ARTERIALS CONNECT TO, TO THE HIGHWAYS.
AND THAT MAKES UP THE, THE, UH, TOTAL STREET NETWORK WITHIN YOUR CITY.
WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A PRETTY COMPELLING SLIDE TO PRESENT REGARDING THE AGE OF THE ASSETS THAT THE STREET DEPARTMENT CHAINS.
UH, YOU WILL SEE HERE THAT, UH, 70 72% OF OUR STREET PAVEMENT IS 31 YEARS OLD OR OLDER.
AND IN TERMS OF THE ALLEYS, IT'S, UH, NOT FOLLOWING TOO FAR BEHIND AT 71% OF OUR ALLEY PAVEMENT, THOSE IMPROVED ALLEYS ARE, UH, 31 YEARS OLD OR OLDER.
AND I THINK THIS REALLY UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF, UM, INVESTING IN, UH, STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, PARTICULARLY THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REHABILITATED OR RECONSTRUCTED, BUT IMPORTANTLY ALSO THE NEED TO INVEST IN THAT 30%, UM, THAT IS LESS THAN 30 YEARS OLD, THAT MAY REQUIRE, SAY, UH, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO INVEST IN THAT TOO.
AND WITH THESE 70% OF OUR ASSETS BEING OVER 30 YEARS OLD, UH, YOU SEE THE NOTATION DOWN AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE SCREEN THAT SHOWS KIND OF THAT AVERAGE LIFE FOR, UH, CONCRETE AND, UH, FOR ASPHALT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL OF OUR STREETS ARE, YOU KNOW, IN DEPLORABLE CONDITION, BUT IT REALLY DOES, I THINK, SET THE STAGE FOR WHERE WE STAND TODAY IN TERMS OF AGE.
BUT THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, RECOGNIZED THIS, I THINK, AND, AND HAS INVESTED, UH, IN OUR STREET ASSETS.
UM, WE WANTED TO SHOW 10 YEARS AGO, WHICH YOU ALL PROBABLY RECALL THIS FROM OCTOBER, I'M SORRY, FROM UM, AUGUST WHEN WE PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS, WE PROVIDED A 10 YEAR FUNDING HISTORY.
AND SO WE WANTED TO GO BACK 10 YEARS AGAIN AND SHOW YOU WHERE WE WERE IN 2014 AT $10 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZING THE, THE NEED TO INVEST IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE HAS MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
AND, UM, THAT FUNDING COMMITMENT HAS JUMPED FROM, UH, THE $10 MILLION IN 14 TO $28 MILLION IN 2020.
AND SINCE 2020, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, INCREASED OUR BUDGET BY ABOUT 34% TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AT, UH, $37.5 MILLION.
SO WE'RE THANKFUL THAT COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE NEED, UM, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S STILL ADDITIONAL NEED THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THESE ASSETS.
SO THIS IS A YEAR END REVIEW, SO TO SPEAK FOR, UH, FY 23.
AGAIN, WE JUST ROLLED THIS UP INTO KIND OF A SINGLE SLIDE, UH, BY THOSE PRIMARY WORK PROGRAMS OR WORK CATEGORIES, BEGINNING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECONSTRUCTION.
MOST OF THAT IS, IS DONE BY OUR IN-HOUSE, UH, RESOURCES.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE, UH, RECONSTRUCTED 13 MILES LANE MILES OF, UH, STREETS, NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, UH, BUT THAT ONLY REPRESENTS 1% OF THE TOTAL LANE MILES FOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AS I SHOWED ON ON AN EARLIER SLIDE.
UH, THE ASPHALT OVERLAY PROGRAM IS ALSO MOSTLY AN IN-HOUSE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY GENERALLY ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE, UM, LET'S SAY EXISTING CONCRETE THAT MAY BE DETERIORATED HAS BEEN OVERLAID WITH ASPHALT.
AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON, THAT ASPHALT MAY DETERIORATE AS WELL, AND WE'LL GO OFF AND MILL IT AND THEN COME BACK WITH NEW ASPHALT.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH 38 LANE MILES OF, UH, ASPHALT OVERLAY.
OUR TYPICAL GOAL FROM YEAR TO YEAR IS ABOUT 35.
AND AGAIN, TWO, ABOUT 3% OF THE TOTAL LANE MILES, AGAIN, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
SINCE, UM, THIS ASPHALT OVERLAY APPLIES TO THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
UH, THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION WE'RE, WE'RE GENERALLY DOING ABOUT THREE LANE MILES PER YEAR, UM, WHICH COST AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS PER LANE MILE TO, UM, CONSTRUCT THESE ALLEYS.
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH POTHOLE PATCHING.
UM, WE'VE MEASURED THAT IN TERMS OF SQUARE YARD, SQUARE YARDS, AND WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED 40,000 SQUARE YARDS OF, UH, UH, POTHOLE PATCHING IN FISCAL YEAR 23.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE, UM, LAST MAJOR WORK CATEGORY IS THE PAVEMENT REHABILITATION, WHICH IS
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JUST THOSE SELECT PAVEMENT REPAIRS.IT'S NOT A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, BUT JUST, UH, THOSE DETERIORATED PAVEMENT PANELS WITHIN A SECTION THAT WE'RE IMPROVING.
UM, SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT COVER RESIDENTIAL STREETS AS WELL AS ARTERIAL STREETS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE AGAIN, ABOUT BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS, ABOUT 1.3% OF THE TOTAL LANE MILES, UH, WERE COVERED.
SO CRYSTAL'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL CON HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
IF YOU RECALL, IN DECEMBER OF 22, UH, THERE WAS A REPORT OUT FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COM COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE, AND THERE WAS A PRIORITIZATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED, AND WE KIND OF SETTLED ON THE FACT THAT WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THE FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROGRAM IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER, STARTING WITH THE 50 50 PROGRAM, THEN FOLLOWED BY, UM, ARTERIALS AND THEN STREET REPAIRS.
AND THEN LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, UM, WHATEVER ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD GO TO WHERE THE HEART IS.
UM, REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ALSO A 2019 BOND FUNDED PROGRAM AT $5 MILLION.
THIS WAS ESTIMATED OUT TO, I BELIEVE, SPEND AROUND $650,000 A YEAR, WHICH WOULD RUN THIS PROGRAM THROUGH ABOUT 2028.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS, UM, UP TO 90% OF THE TOTAL COST.
AND THAT'S BASED ON ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS FOR HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES OVER 65, AND THEN ALSO BEING IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT OR CDBG.
OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED 481 REQUESTS.
UM, WE EXECUTED 175 AGREEMENTS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TOTAL OF 77 THAT ARE STILL PENDING.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THE TOTAL EXECUTED AGREEMENTS BY DISTRICTS.
UM, ALSO YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS SPENT IS ABOUT $500,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 808,700 SQUARE YARDS OF CONCRETE SIDEWALK THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND, AND REPLACED.
AND THAT TRANSLATES TO APPROXIMATELY 20,000 LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK.
WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A, A SPECIFIC PROJECT, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING IN FY 23, BUT THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY BEGAN IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION IN, UH, 2022.
AND IT IS THE UNIMPROVED ALLEY PAVING PROJECT.
AND, UH, THIS PROJECT REALLY CONSISTS OF PUTTING IN PAVEMENT WHERE PAVEMENT DOESN'T EXIST ON 13 ALLEY SEGMENTS, UH, IN VARIOUS DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
UM, SOME OF THESE ALLEY SEGMENTS ALSO, UM, INCLUDE, UH, SEWER INSTALLATIONS.
THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS WERE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND, AND WITH WATER UTILITIES.
SO AGAIN, WE, WE BEGAN THE IMPLEMENTATION IN, UM, SPRING OF 2022.
WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING THAT IN, UH, FY 23.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL CONTINUE INTO FY 24, BUT WE DO EXPECT TO COMPLETE IT IN FY 24.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, LIST THE CURRENT STATUS OF THOSE 13 ALLEY SEGMENTS.
THOSE FIRST SIX SEGMENTS REPRESENT THOSE PARTNERSHIP, UH, ALLEYS THAT WE WORK WITH, WATER, UTILITIES AND AND ENGINEERING ON.
THOSE ALL INCLUDED, I BELIEVE, UH, UH, A SEWER COMPONENT TO THEM.
AND THEN THE REMAINING ONES THAT INDICATE THE OCTOBER, 2023 START ARE, ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE, UH, JUST THE ALLEY PAYMENT.
AND AGAIN, THESE WILL WILL BE COMPLETED.
A KEY, UM, RESPONSIBILITY THAT ORIGINATES OUT OF THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY AN OPERATIONS BASED PROGRAM.
AND THE BIG PIECE OF THIS IS THAT IT SUPPORTS THE CITY'S BIGGER PICTURE, UH, MS FOUR PROGRAM, WHICH IS MANAGED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE PROVIDE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO AND THE METRICS THAT WE REPORT.
UH, THIS MS FOUR PERMIT IS, UH, ISSUED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND IT'S A PERMIT THAT'S RENEWED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO WE ARE, UM, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE, UH, CHANNEL MAINTENANCE, WHICH YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE
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OF, THAT WE DO PERFORM, UH, IN TERMS OF DEBRIS REMOVAL.UM, THAT DEBRIS REMOVAL IS PRIMARILY LIMITED TO DEBRIS THAT, UH, RESTRICTS THE FLOW OF WATER, UH, IN THAT CHANNEL OR CREEK.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, DO MOWING, UH, ALONG, UH, CITY OWNED CHANNELS ONLY.
UH, ANOTHER BIG PIECE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO MS FOUR, BUT JUST A BIG PIECE FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IS THE HOMANS ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS.
AND THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, CO COMPLIANCE AND WITH GARLAND POLICE AS WELL AS SANITATION.
I, UM, MISTAKENLY OMITTED THEM FROM, FROM THIS CHART.
UM, SO EVERY MONDAY, UH, THE STREET DEPARTMENT, WHETHER DEPENDING, UH, IS OUT THERE CLEANING HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.
AND THE NUMBER THAT WE CAPTURED FOR FY 23 IS 330 CAMPS THAT WE CLEANED.
UM, JUST A A POINT HERE THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE UNIQUE ENCAMPMENTS THAT WE CLEAN, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE WILL CLEAN THEM AND THEN THE CAMPERS COME BACK.
SO IT COULD BE DUPLICATE CAMPS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN HERE, BUT WE JUST HAVE THE RAW CON OF 330 THAT WE CLEANED IN FY 23.
THOSE NEXT TWO BULLETS REALLY KIND OF TIE INTO THAT MS FOUR, UM, PROGRAM AND THOSE METRICS, IT'S THE INLET CLEANING AND STREET SWEEPING.
WE ALSO DO GUARD REPAIRS, GUARD RAIL REPAIRS AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
ON THE POTHOLE PATCHING SIDE, WE HAVE THREE, UM, UH, PATCH TRUCKS.
AND TWO OF THEM ARE, UH, TYPICALLY DEPLOYED IN THESE GEOGRAPHICAL REGIONS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, ONE IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT WE'RE TYPICALLY FOLLOWING THE SANITATION ROUTES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PATCHES THAT WE MAKE BECAUSE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
UM, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT TUESDAY IS NOT SHOWN THERE.
AND, UH, TUESDAY IS, IS TYPICALLY THE POINT AT WHICH WE WILL SPLIT THE CITY INTO TWO AND DO MAJOR PATCHING.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WILL DO ON DEMAND PATCHING BASED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS THAT WE COME, THAT WE GET IN, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE RESOURCES AROUND TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE.
'CAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT EVERY TIME.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTION RESOURCES THAT PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN RECONSTRUCTING OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THE CITY.
UH, THIS PROGRAM HAS EXISTED FOR, FOR OVER 30 YEARS NOW.
AND AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, IT STARTED WITH JUST ONE CREW.
AND OVER TIME WE'VE GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY TO WHERE IT'S NEARLY HALF OF THE STREET DEPARTMENT STAFF AT THIS POINT.
AND WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT IT IS A FULL SERVICE PAVING GROUP, FULL SERVICE PAVING, UM, FULL SERVICE IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, THESE SHAPES AND GREEN, THERE ARE KIND OF THOSE MAJOR MILESTONES THAT COMPRISE A, UH, ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION.
AND OUR TEAM IS ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEM.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS, UM, PROGRAM.
IT'S ONE THAT'S SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.
I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE WORKED FOR AND WITH A NUMBER OF CITIES HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY AT LEAST.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW MANY WHO DO THIS.
THEY MAY DO PAVEMENT REPAIRS, UM, WHICH TYPICALLY WE, UH, CONTRACT OUT.
BUT IN TERMS OF FULL RECONSTRUCTIONS, UH, IT'S AT LEAST LIMITED HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY.
CAN'T SPEAK FOR TEXAS, BUT I CAN SPEAK FOR DALLAS COUNTY BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE.
AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THE SURFACE OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET BETWEEN RIGHT OF WAY, LINE TO RIGHT OF WAY LINE, UM, WE, WE CAN DO IT.
SO SPEAKING OF THOSE, UM, CONTRACTED SERVICES, I, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH, UM, A LIST OF THE WORK CATEGORIES AS WELL AS THE VENDORS THAT HELP SUPPORT OUR OPERATION.
WE, WE CAN'T DO IT ALL OURSELVES.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY RELY ON OUR, UH, THIRD PARTY PARTNERS HERE.
UM, SO PROVIDING YOU WITH, UH, AN ITEMIZATION OF THE ANNUAL FUNDING AMOUNTS FOR THESE CONTRACTED SERVICES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS IN THE RANGE OF 15, $16 MILLION PER YEAR.
AND WITH THAT, UM, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT INFLATION.
AND WE TOUCHED ON THIS IN, IN, UH, AUGUST AS WELL.
AND, UH, THE COUNCIL DID GRACIOUSLY, UH, GIVE US A FUNDING REQUEST TO HELP SHORE UP THE IMPACT DUE TO INFLATION.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF PULL OUT A FEW NUMBERS JUST TO REALLY SHOW, UM, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS HAD ON, ON OUR OPERATIONS, BOTH THE CONTRACTED SERVICES AS WELL AS OUR IN-HOUSE OPERATIONS.
YOU'LL SEE THE COST TO, UH, DO AN ARTERIAL PANEL RE REPAIR.
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REMOVING, REPAIRING A 20 FOOT LONG CONCRETE PANEL HAS JUMPED 24% OVER TWO YEARS.UM, FOR A RESIDENTIAL STREET, THAT SAME 20 FOOT LONG CONCRETE PANEL TO REMOVE AND REPLACE IT HAS INCREASED BY 83%.
AND THEN THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE JUST DIRECT MATERIAL COSTS TO SUPPORT OUR IN-HOUSE OPERATIONS.
UH, THE COST OF ASPHALT TO DO THE PATCHING AND TO DO THOSE, UH, OVERLAYS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
AND THEN THE COST OF CONCRETE, UM, WHICH YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW HAS, HAS RISEN IN THIS INSTANCE BY, UH, 44%.
SO IT IS A VERY REAL THING THAT HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE CAN DO.
SO JUST QUICKLY REVISITING SOME OF THOSE MAJOR PROJECT CATEGORIES HERE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE REHABILITATION, UM, THINGS THAT WE DO, BUT THE EMPHASIS, UM, IS REALLY ON REHABILITATION ON OUR STREETS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST PRESENT YOU WITH SOME GENERAL GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE APPROACH REHABILITATING STREETS.
OBVIOUSLY FOCUSING ON THOSE STREETS THAT RANGE FROM GOOD TO FAIR AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE PAVEMENT.
A LOT OF TIMES WE GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO, SAY, PANEL REPLACEMENTS, AND WE'RE OFTEN ASKED ABOUT SIDEWALK REPAIRS AS WELL.
BUT REALLY THE STREET REHABILITATION IS JUST THAT.
UM, WE DO WANNA BE A LITTLE BIT PLIABLE WITH, WITH OUR REHABILITATION PROGRAM, UH, KNOWING THAT THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, I HAVE THIS BULLET HERE ABOUT LEVERAGING EXTERNAL FUNDINGS.
AND WE DO HAVE A RECENT EXAMPLE OF THAT WHERE THE COUNCIL APPROVED A-A-P-S-A WITH DALLAS COUNTY, UM, TO FUND 50% OF THE JUPITER ROAD, UH, REPAIRS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR FY 24.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THINGS HAPPEN.
WE'RE COORDINATING CONSTANTLY WITH WATER UTILITIES AND SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN THAT DO REQUIRE, UH, THE RESOURCES OF THE STREET DEPARTMENT, UH, BASED ON SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED WITH A UTILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR FIXED OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND SO WE'RE FLEXIBLE IN THAT REGARD.
AND THEN THE REALITY IS IN, IN OUR BUSINESS IS THAT IF WE LOOK AT PAVEMENT TODAY, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED A DEFICIENCY TODAY AND HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT PLAN OF ACTION TODAY, SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THAT, SAY NINE MONTHS LATER, CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED AND WE'VE GOTTA BE PREPARED FOR THAT AND TO BE ABLE, UH, TO BE ADAPTABLE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COME IN AND DO A REPAIR OR REHAB SOMETHING, WE SHOULDN'T JUST DO IT AND JUST WALK AWAY.
WE NEED TO MONITOR THAT TO PROTECT 'CAUSE THAT IS AN INVESTMENT, AS WE ALL KNOW, MONITOR IT TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL NEED THAT RISES.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR RECURRING, UH, PAVEMENT INSPECTIONS, WE DO AN IN-HOUSE INSPECTIONS COME INTO PLAY TO MONITOR THOSE INVESTMENTS.
SO COUNSEL, I'VE ONLY HAVE ONE SLIDE HERE TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT OUR FY 24 UM, PLAN CONSISTS OF.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST KIND OF A ROLL UP OF COUNTS, PROJECT COUNTS.
AND WE FRAMED IT THIS WAY BECAUSE BEFORE THANKSGIVING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF, UH, COUPLE DAYS, YOU WILL GET, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS BY CATEGORIES AS WELL AS A CORRESPONDING MAP FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, WE, WE ROLL THIS UP BY PROJECTS AND A COUPLE OF FOOTNOTES THERE.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT COUNT IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF ALLEY SEGMENTS BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY WILL PACKAGE A NUMBER OF ALLEY SEGMENTS TOGETHER AND CALL IT ONE PROJECT.
SO THAT IS ONE EXCEPTION HERE ON THIS CHART.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTIAL PAVEMENT REPAIRS, THE COUNT THERE IS BY NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE STREETS WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE MAY BE REPAIRING.
UM, SO IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY THAT BY A PROJECT.
UM, AGAIN, REVISITING THE, THE LANE MILE CONCEPT WE'VE PRESENTED, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LANE MILES WILL BE IMPACTED AS A RESULT OF THESE PLANNED PROJECTS.
AND THEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE LANE MILES IS REPRESENTED BASED ON THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION FOR WHICH THE PROJECT FALLS.
SO YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, SO I WON'T SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT'S A KEY IT OF DATA THAT WE USE TO DRIVE DECISIONS ON PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT INSPECTION AND YOU GRADE THAT, UH, ASSET, IT IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WHAT THE SCORE IS AT THAT TIME.
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UM, AND THE KEY THING ABOUT, UH, ABOUT PCI IS THAT IT REALLY LOOKS AT DISTRESSES, UH, THE PAVEMENT SURFACE AND THEN ALSO HOW DO THOSE DISTRESS POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE PAVEMENT ITSELF.AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT IS, UM, BASICALLY GRADED A SCORE BETWEEN ZERO, WHICH IS BASICALLY A FAILED PAVEMENT UP TO 100, WHICH IS A BRAND NEW PAVEMENT THAT'S JUST OPENED UP FOR TRAFFIC.
AND I JUST INCLUDE THIS CHART JUST TO SHOW SOME TYPICAL DISTRESSES, UM, THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL SEEN BEFORE.
THOSE TWO ON THE, UH, LEFT ARE ASPHALT PAVEMENT DISTRESS, AND THEN THE TWO ON THE RIGHT ARE, ARE CONCRETE DISTRESSES.
I PROVIDED OTHER EXAMPLE DISTRESSES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF DISTRESS.
SO I REALLY THINK IT JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORES HOW FAR THIS CAN GO IN TERMS OF MANAGING PAVEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DISTRESS THAT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF AND TRY TO MANAGE.
SO THE COUNCIL APPROVED A $350,000 BUDGET REQUEST, UH, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR US TO DO A PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
AND THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES FROM STAFF LEVEL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS WITH THE VENDOR IS WHAT, WHAT IS THE TARGET? WHAT, WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL PAVEMENT ASSETS? I PUT AN EXAMPLE HERE UNDER DEFINING THE CITY GOALS.
DO WE, DO WE WANT TO GET OUR STREETS TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S ONLY PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THAT IS NECESSARY? DO WE WANT SOMETHING HIGHER THAN THAT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THE STREETS OR DO WE WANT SOMETHING LOWER? AND WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE WITH HOW WE WANT TO SET THAT GOAL, BUT WE DO HAVE TO SET A GOAL, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE BUDGET, BUDGET DEPENDENT, BUT THE FIRST STEP IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TO CONDUCT THE ASSESSMENT AND THEN FROM THERE, DEFINE THE GOALS.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, BASED ON THE SCORING, DETERMINE WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE TREATMENT FOR THOSE ROADWAYS THAT ARE IN A CONDITION WHERE THEY'RE DETERIORATING.
AND THEN PUT A COST TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ROADWAYS THAT REQUIRE SOME SORT OF TREATMENT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR BIG POT OF MONEY THAT YOU NEED.
AND FROM THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RUN BUDGET SCENARIOS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME AROUND IS NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH.
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA SAY IT'S UNREALISTIC.
AND SO THIS IS KIND OF AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST HIGH LEVEL.
I EXPECT THAT WE WILL DRILL THIS DOWN FURTHER, THIS MODELING WITH THE VENDOR.
UH, BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WE WOULD LIKELY APPROACH THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING CHART TO JUST SHOW PAVEMENT DETERIORATION.
AND I THINK THE ONE INTERESTING PART ABOUT THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA THAT'S DENOTED AS MINOR REHABILITATION, BASICALLY KIND OF A FAIR CONDITION, ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT MINOR REHABILITATION, YOU SEE THE DETERIORATION DROPS OFF PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN, THAT KIND OF UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ABOUT PROTECTING YOUR INVESTMENTS THAT ARE IN THAT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE STAGE.
SO INVESTING THAT MONEY IN PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TO TRY TO KEEP YOUR GOOD STREETS OR YOUR GOOD PAVEMENT ASSETS GOOD AS LONG AS YOU CAN.
SO THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLE OF A DETERIORATION CURVE ALONG WITH THESE PCI RANGES HERE ON THE LEFT.
THESE DON'T ALIGN SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CURRENT WAY WE RATE OUR, UH, PAVEMENT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE PCI RANGE AND, UM, HOW IT CORRELATES TO THE PAVEMENT CONDITION FROM EXCELLENT DOWN TO FAILED.
AND THEN WHAT I DID ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WAS JUST IDENTIFY, UH, SOME OF THOSE KIND OF TYPICAL TREATMENTS THAT WE WOULD APPLY BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT AND THE CORRESPONDING PCI SCORE.
SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT, UH, COUNSEL APPROVED THE $350,000.
UH, YOU ALL MAY RECALL IN AUGUST I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING THESE ASSESSMENTS IN-HOUSE USING KIND OF A, A VISUAL INSPECTION APPROACH.
BUT THE TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY BECOME A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED UP TO AND INCLUDING SOME VENDORS EVEN USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE NOW TO DO SOME OF THIS ASSESSMENT.
AND SO WE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN SOME OF THIS SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE ARE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REALLY EVALUATE VENDORS TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, UM, TO, TO DETERMINE WHICH APPROACH WILL BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND.
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ACTUALLY ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THREE VENDORS, AND THERE MAY BE A FOURTH ONE.AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO TRIAL RUNS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THE DATA IS ALSO TO REALLY SEE, UH, ON THE BACK END WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMMING TOOLS THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO US TO HELP US IN THE DECISION MAKING.
SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF DO THIS RECURRING ON A RECURRING BASIS.
AND CITIES REALLY DIFFER ON HOW, HOW FREQUENTLY THEY WANT TO DO IT.
BUT GENERALLY YOU'LL SEE THREE TO FIVE YEARS THAT, UH, THIS PROCESS WILL BE RE REPEATED.
AND SO BASED ON WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH KIND OF VETTING THE VENDORS AND THEN HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE'RE, WE'RE ESTIMATING WE COULD PROBABLY FINISH THIS PROCESS, UM, BY SUMMER AND THEN, UH, BRING THOSE FINDINGS BACK TO YOU FOR REVIEW.
SO MY LAST SLIDE HERE, COUNSEL, IS REALLY JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS JUST TO LET 'EM KNOW HOW THEY CAN REACH US.
UM, THERE'S A VERY GOOD TOOL OUT THERE CALLED EIST WHERE UM, CUSTOMERS CAN PROVIDE, UH, DETAILED INFORMATION, INCLUDING PICTURES AND SEND IT TO US, AND THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO TRACK THE STATUS OF THEIR INQUIRY OR THEIR ISSUE OR REQUEST.
UM, BUT IF A CUSTOMER CHOOSES NOT TO USE EIST, OF COURSE THERE ARE THOSE TRADITIONAL METHODS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, EMAIL AND PHONE, UM, USING THE CONTACT INFORMATION PROVIDED HERE.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNSEL.
AND THANK YOU FOR COMPILING ALL THIS INFORMATION.
I'VE, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT WE WERE GONNA, GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY FOR, UM, PCIS RATHER THAN JUST THE WINDSHIELD DRIVING BY AND COMING UP WITH A NUMBER.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE DEPENDABLE.
UM, HOW LONG IS, IS THAT ESTIMATED TO TAKE? WE'RE ESTIMATING THE FIRST ROUND OF THE, THE ESTIMATING, THE PCI THAT WE AUTHORIZED NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE BY THE END OF JANUARY, IT WILL TAKE UP TO ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OR SO TO COMPLETE THAT, UH, ENTIRE REVIEW OF THE PAVEMENT AND THEN THAT BACKEND PROCESSING.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING SUMMER, WE'D FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO PRESENT THOSE FINDINGS.
WELL, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
UM, ONE QUESTION HERE AND, AND MAYBE I JUST DIDN'T HEAR BECAUSE MAYBE I DIDN'T WITH SIDEWALKS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SIDE, THE, IT WAS AN EARLY THING SHOWING THE SIDEWALKS BY DISTRICT.
SO LAST DECEMBER WE GAVE A PRIORITY OF THE, THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD, THE BOND FUNDING.
AND WE HAD FOUR CATEGORIES THAT WE PUT FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH.
AND THE FIRST ONE WAS THE, UH, COST SHARE SIDEWALKS, WHICH WE SEE CERTAIN DISTRICTS ARE, UH, UH, REALLY ACING THAT.
UM, THEN THERE WAS ARTERIAL REPAIRS, WHICH I THINK WE'VE BEEN SEEING THAT HA I'VE BEEN SEEING THAT HAPPEN AROUND NUMBER THREE THOUGH WAS REPAIRS IN CONJUNCTION WITH STREET REPAIRS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SIDEWALKS NOT REPLACED, BUT REPAIRED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY WHERE WE WERE REPAIRING A STREET, WHICH WOULD BE THE REHAB OR ASPHALT OVERLAY, NOT POTHOLES.
ANYWAY, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT HAPPENING ANYWHERE.
SO HAS THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR? IT HAS NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
UH, I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT TYPICALLY WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE PAVEMENT AND NOT THE SIDEWALKS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, AND THE, THE REASON THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FOCUS ON THAT, SO THIS IS, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD A TIME WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO DO A CATCH UP MM-HMM.
AND WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SPEND PER YEAR.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A FULL YEAR, UM, IN THE, UH, SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT FUNDING WE, WE REALLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO EXPAND ON OTHER PROGRAMS. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THOUGH THAT, UM, THE, WHERE THE HEART IS PROGRAM, UM, WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT, BUT IT IS THROUGH ARPA FUNDS AND NOT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
SO, UM, DO WE HAVE PLANS TO START IMPLEMENTING THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS? THAT WOULD BE WITH THE REMAINING FUNDS FROM THE SIX 50 FROM THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD ROLL OVER INTO NEXT
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YEAR.AND EVEN WITH THAT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED BASED ON THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET FOR THE PROGRAM.
WELL JUST, AGAIN, LOOKING, LOOKING AT HOW OUR COST SHARE PROGRAM IS WORKING FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, THE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE LESS MONEY TO SPEND, UM, FOR THE COST SHARE PROGRAM ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE VERY LOW NUMBERS.
SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR, UM, THINKING WHEN COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT SIDEWALK REPAIRS ALONG WHERE STREETS ARE BEING REPAIRED, THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO A LOT OF THE CITIZENS WHO CAN'T, WHO REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THIS.
SO I, I DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE, WHERE THE HEART IS AND HAPPY TO SEE ARPA FUNDS USED FOR THAT VERY GOOD PURPOSE.
BUT I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WILL START SEEING SOME OF THOSE, UH, SIDEWALK REPAIRS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH STREET REPAIRS.
IF A STREET IS IN BAD SHAPE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THE SIDEWALKS ARE AS WELL.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS.
UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT A LOT OF THIS.
AND, UM, YOUR QUESTION, MR. IRVIN EARLIER ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO BE, UH, YEAH, WE WANT TO BE IN THE STATE WHERE, UH, AT MOST WE HAVE TO DO SOME LITTLE MINOR, UH, MAINTENANCE.
UH, I, I THINK THAT'S NOT WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP, BUT I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE, WE LOOK AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE STREETS THAT LAST THIS LONG AND WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S GONNA NOT EXTEND THEM PAST THAT.
RIGHT? RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN OVERTIME.
WE'VE GOT 60 YEAR OLD STREETS, AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO DO BETTER THAN THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU MAYOR CASSER WILLIAMS. THANK, THANK YOU MAYOR
IT'S TWISTING FIVE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS.
UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS ON THE SLIDE THAT'S BEHIND US THERE.
UM, UH, WITH THE, WE HAD 175 AGREEMENTS AND WE'VE GOT 77 PENDING.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF MY MATH'S CORRECT, THERE ARE 306 THAT WERE NOT APPROVED? CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WORSHIP IT? WERE THEY DENIED WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NUMBER SAYS, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE MASS SAYS THE 306 SOMETHING PLACE, 77 4 81 RECEIVED 1 75 APPROVED, 77 PENDING.
SO THE 481 REPRESENTS ANYONE WHO CALLED IN AND MADE A REQUEST.
AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET THE REQUESTS IS THAT, UH, STREETS DEPARTMENT WILL DO A, A COST ESTIMATE.
WHAT, WHAT WILL IT COST FULLY TO REPAIR THE SIDEWALKS ACROSS A, A UNIQUE PROPERTY? THAT INFORMATION THEN GOES TO REVENUE RECOVERY.
WHO IS THE ONE THAT PREPARES THE ACTUAL ESTIMATE THAT WILL GO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER? AND UH, OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME DISCOUNTS THAT CRYSTAL MENTIONED.
AND SO ALL OF THAT COST PIECE, UM, FINANCING AND SUCH GOES THROUGH REVENUE RECOVERY.
AND WHAT WE FIND IS, UM, IN MORE CASES THAN NOT, THE CUSTOMER WILL REJECT THE ESTIMATE.
THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO IT BASED ON WHAT REVENUE RECOVERY COMES BACK WITH.
AND SO THE 175 REPRESENTS THOSE PEOPLE WHO DID ACCEPT THE COST AND WENT INTO AN AGREEMENT.
AND SO THE 77 REPRESENTS, UM, THE 77 IS OF THE 175 THAT WE SIGNED UP, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE STILL PENDING TO DO THE REPAIRS.
AND THE REMAINING NUMBER ARE THE ONES WHO CHOSE NOT TO FOLLOW UP.
MY, SO JUST FOR CONTEXT OVER, UM, IF WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 95% ACTUALLY QUALIFIED.
ON AVERAGE IT'S ABOUT 95% THAT ACTUALLY QUALIFIED.
AND THE REMAINDER ARE, UM, WHAT MR. URBAN STATED.
THA THANK, THANK YOU CHRISTOPHER FOR CLARIFYING THAT AND THANK YOU MR. VIN.
PRIORITIZING, AND YOU THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.
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UH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ENDED THIS, THIS, YOUR PRESENTATION WITH E ASSIST, WELL, YOU PROBABLY, I'M SURE YOU KNOW BY NOW, UM, THE, THE FOLKS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE E THE ASSIST FOLK.UH, THIS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THAT, UH, UH, THAT KEEPS US UP AT NIGHT, IT'S, IT'S THIS.
AND, UH, THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, REFER TO E ASSIST THAT'S, I'M TALKING TO YOU.
AND SO, SO THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
UM, BUT LET ME ASK YOU, YOUR QUESTION IS, AND WE GET MULTIPLE OF REQUESTS, STREETS, ALLEYS AND ALLEYS ARE GETTING A LOT OF PLAY.
AND THEN I'M NOT GONNA NAME DEPARTMENT, THEY, BUT THEY PARTICULARLY BLAME ONE OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR THE ALLEYS.
BUT I DON'T GET ENGAGED IN THAT.
THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
BUT, BUT, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN BRIEFLY, MR. VIN, UH, TO OUR VIEWING PUBLIC, ONCE YOU GET THESE REQUESTS, STREETS, ALICE, HOW YOU GO ABOUT PRIORITIZING, YOU CAN'T DO THEM ALL WHEN, WHEN YOU GET THOSE REQUESTS, MY ALLEY, THIS STREET AND BOTH OF 'EM ARE ARE IN YOUR OFFICE.
CAN YOU BRIEFLY, FOR OUR PUBLIC, HOW, HOW THEN WHAT DECIDES WHETHER YOU ADDRESS THE ALLEY ISSUE OR THE STREET ISSUE? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY? 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T DO, UH, USUALLY YOU, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO BOTH.
SO WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER YOU RESPOND TO THE ALLEY CONDITIONS OR THE STREET CONDITIONS? MM-HMM.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION.
UM, WE GET THREE MILES FOR $3 MILLION A YEAR.
SO IT DOESN'T, AND MY QUESTION INCLUDES NOT JUST RE BUT REPAIR, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
UM, FOCUSING ON THE RECONSTRUCTION PIECE OF IT.
UM, SO THE MONEY DOESN'T GO VERY FAR.
AND SO HISTORICALLY, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND THE DEPARTMENT IS, YOU KNOW, LOWEST FIRST IS KIND OF A STARTING POINT BASED ON THAT PCI SCORE.
AND THAT WOULD APPLY FOR STREETS AS WELL AS ALLEYS TYPICALLY.
UM, AGAIN, THE PCI SCORE IS THAT SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF DATA THAT WE USE.
BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M WANTING TO DO IS SHIFT TO SOME EXTENT AS WELL TO LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE COMPOSITE, UH, PCI SCORE FOR THE CITY'S NETWORK, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE PCI SCORES PER DISTRICT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE AGGREGATE PCI SCORE.
AND THEN SEEING WHERE MAYBE WE NEED TO REDIRECT SOME MORE RESOURCES BASED ON THE DISTRICT PCI SCORE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE DISTRICT WILL GET ALL OF THE MONEY, BUT STILL IT, IT COULD BE AN INDICATION THAT THAT DISTRICT HAS A GREATER NEED IF THE OVERALL PCI SCORE IS 80.
UM, WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT AS WELL AS I TALKED ABOUT, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE UTILITIES THAT, UH, MAY NEED TO BE INSTALLED.
AGAIN, THAT'S THAT COORDINATION WITH WATER UTILITIES AS WELL TO SEE IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT PRIORITIZATION AS WELL.
UH, BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF IT'S DRIVEN BY THAT.
PCI IS WHAT WE LOOK AT A LOT OF, IN A LOT OF CASES.
WE ALSO WILL TAKE, AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REQUEST, BUT WE KIND OF LOOK AT STAKEHOLDER INPUT AS A WHOLE.
WE'RE NOT DRIVING BY JUST SOMEONE SAYING, I NEED MY ALLEY BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SERVICE REQUESTS AS A WHOLE, PARTICULARLY IF SOMEONE HAS FILED AN EIST REQUEST OR WE HAVE ENTERED THE DATA INTO CARDIOGRAPH OURSELVES.
WE'RE TRACKING THOSE REQUESTS AND SEEING WHERE WE'RE DEPLOYING RESOURCES AS WELL.
SO IT'S JUST A DATA INPUT AS WELL.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE DRIVING FORCE, BUT IS A DATA INPUT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE USE TO PRIORITIZE THAT I'M WANTING TO GO INTO.
AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, ELEPHANT IN THE ROME, YOU MENTIONED THE WORD INFLATION AND YOU'VE PUT, YOU HAD A CHART UP THERE WITH CONCRETE STILL AND ALL THAT HAS, HAS THIS RELATED TO, IS THERE IN, IN, IN YOUR BUSINESS, IS THERE ANY SUCH THING AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I USE WRONG TERMINOLOGY 'CAUSE I'M NOT A FAN FINANCIER, BUT IS IT FA FORWARD PURCHASING OF FORWARD, UH, BUYING OF SUPPLIES, THE EQUIPMENT OR CONTRACTING TO, TO UM, UM, HELP
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MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF INFLATION ON ANY, ANYTHING IN, IN OUR AREA OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS? WHETHER IT'S CONCRETE STILL THOSE KIND OF THINGS? OR IS THAT NOT A PRACTICE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN YOUR BUSINESS? I, I'VE HEARD OF IT IN OTHER BUSINESSES AND UM, I AM NOT SPECIFICALLY FAMILIAR WITH ANY MECHANISM IN THAT.SO, BUT, BUT, BUT THE THINGS THAT YOU LISTED ON THAT, ON THAT SCREEN ARE ITEMS THAT ARE PROJECT SPECIFIC.
AM I CORRECT PROJECT OR PROGRAM? PROJECT OR PROGRAM? IF IT'S CONCRETE, IF IT'S STILL THAT KIND OF THING? YEAH, THOSE, LEMME GO BACK TO IT.
AND YOU HAD A SCREEN OF A SLIDE, I'M NOT SURE WHICH.
UM, SO THE FIRST TWO ARE MORE PROGRAM RELATED.
UM, THOSE ARE VENDORS THAT ARE REMOVING AND REPLACING CONCRETE AND THOSE ARE THE CORRESPONDING INCREASES BASED ON THOSE PROGRAMS. RESIDENTIAL RECONSTRUCTION AND ARTERIAL RECONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THE LAST TWO ARE MATERIAL COSTS ALONE TO SUPPORT OUR IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS SUCH AS PATCHING, UH, OVERLAYING AND, AND THEN, UH, JUST THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION ALONE.
AND WITH ALL THOSE REPAIRS, AGAIN, WOULD YOU STATE PRIMARILY FOR OUR PUBLIC, YOU MENTIONED IN-HOUSE STAFF VERSUS CONTRACTING? MM-HMM.
THAT IS ALL CONTRACTED SERVICES.
WHAT, WHAT WE DO IN-HOUSE, AT LEAST ON THIS LIST, IS THE RESIDENTIAL RECONSTRUCTIONS WE DO IN-HOUSE ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY.
RESIDENTIAL STREET RECONSTRUCTION? CORRECT.
MM-HMM,
WHEN WE DO THAT IN-HOUSE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S CONTRACTOR BASED.
I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, HOW DO YOU ALERT RESIDENTS WHO ARE, UM, IN THE MIDST OF A, A STREET PROJECT THAT'S A SHORT TERM TEMPORARY PROJECT THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THEIR ABILITY TO GET TO THEIR HOME OR DRIVEWAY? UM, WE CERTAINLY RELY ON THE CONTRACTOR FOR THOSE SHORT TERM PROJECTS TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION DIRECTLY WITH THE RESIDENT.
IF THERE IS A LIMITED INSTANCE WHERE A DRIVEWAY MAY NEED TO BE BLOCKED TO PERFORM A SPECIFIC PIECE OF WORK, TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW WE MANAGE IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR WHO'S THERE ON THE GROUND IN MANY INSTANCES.
BUT WHEN THAT INSPECTOR IS NOT THERE, UH, IT IS OUR EXPECTATION FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENT FOR THOSE AD HOC PURPOSES.
IS IT A REQUIREMENT OR AN EXPECTATION? IT'S GENERALLY AN EXPECTATION.
UM, WELL, I'VE, I, LIKE TODAY I GOT A COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE WHO COULDN'T GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THEY WERE LIKE, WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME THAT I WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO GET ON MY DRIVEWAY? AND, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A REQUIREMENT OF THE CONTRACTOR TO DO SO.
UM, AND SPEAKING OF CONTRACTORS, WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH VENDORS WHO ARE UNDERPERFORMING WHEN THERE'S A STREET RECONSTRUCTION THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS LONGER THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO, UM, BECAUSE OF A CONTRACTOR'S PERFORMANCE? HOW, UM, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THEM? HOW DO YOU, UH, HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHEN TO HIRE THEM AGAIN AND, AND WHAT KIND OF GOES INTO THAT PROCESS? WELL, I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT YET IN GARLAND, SO IF YOU WANT THE GARLAND EXPERIENCE, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU EXPERIENCE FROM PAST PLACES.
UM, SO WE KIND OF START OUT WITH HAVING CONTRACT TIME, UH, BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT THAT BASICALLY SAYS YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
UM, AND IN MANY CASES THAT GETS THE CONTRACT'S ATTENTION.
THEY'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE CONTRACT TIME AND EVEN IF SAY THEY'RE UNDERPERFORMING ON THE FRONT END, KNOWING THAT THAT CONTRACT TIME EXISTS AND THEY MAY BE RUNNING UP AGAINST THAT, THEY MAY START TO PERFORM BETTER AS THEY APPROACH THAT CONTRACT TIME, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY MAY BE SUBJECT TO PENALTY, WHICH WE CALL LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
UM, IF WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT JUST HAS NOT PERFORMED WELL,
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UM, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS TO DOCUMENT SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN.UM, AND NOT JUST SAYING THEM VERBALLY, BUT HAVING THE DOCUMENTATION TO CERTIFY THIS IS WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO.
AND THEN THERE'S POTENTIALLY THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WANTS TO BID ON ANOTHER PROJECT TO POTENTIALLY NOT AWARD IT TO THEM, THOUGH THEY ARE THE LOW BIDDER.
I THINK ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OWENS IS AWARE OF THE PROJECT THAT I SPEAK OF.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VENDORS, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING THEM A LOT OF MONEY TO, TO COMPLETE A JOB AND IF THEY'RE NOT DOING IT PROPERLY, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT REWARDED FOR THAT IN ANY WAY.
MR. IRVIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
NOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE PCI ASSESSMENT, UH, STUDY WE'RE GOING TO DO.
HAVE ANY OF THE VENDORS YOU LOOKED AT INCLUDED A KIND OF AN AI ANALYSIS COMPONENT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN PRESENTATIONS ON AND AI IS PARTICULARLY GOOD AT LOOKING AT IMAGE AND, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING POSSIBLE ERRORS AND OR PROBLEMS THAT WE MIGHT SEE IN PAVEMENT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO HELP US BUILD A MODEL, ESPECIALLY GOING FORWARD IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS EVERY SEVERAL YEARS.
ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE VENDORS THAT WE'RE EVALUATING WAS IN OUR OFFICE, UH, JUST LAST WEEK, UH, PRESENTING THEIR FINDINGS ON THAT TRIAL RUN THAT I MENTIONED WE'RE HAVING THE VENDORS TO DO.
AND THEIR APPROACH IS TO USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
AND IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY CAN PREDICT THAT DEGRADATION.
SO, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY CLUED IN ON THAT.
WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN IT, BUT WE WANT TO ENSURE, IN ADDITION TO THE AI PIECE OF IT, I I ALSO NEED THE BACKEND PIECE THAT HELPS ME WITH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING AND BUDGETING AND THAT MODELING THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
SO, SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY A CANDIDATE, BUT WE WANNA SEE WHAT THE OTHER, UH, VENDORS ARE BRINGING AS WELL.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESULTS VERY SOON.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? WELL, ALL RIGHT, MR. CITY MANAGER.
UH, SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE KIND OF READING BETWEEN THE LINES OF WHAT, WHAT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BECOME RELEVANT AS WE DIG INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UM, LATER, WELL, FIRST OF NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR LONG-TERM, UH, DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
UM, AND I'LL USE ALLEYS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PAST YEAR.
AND THIS IS USING MONEY ONE TIME, MONEY THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY.
2019 BOND MONEY THAT HELPS FUND OUR ALLEY REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
UH, WITH THOSE FUNDS, WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO 1% OF ALLEYS PER YEAR.
UM, DOING THE MATH, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ALLEYS ONCE EVERY A HUNDRED YEARS.
UM, CONCRETE DOESN'T LAST A HUNDRED YEARS
SO, UM, THAT JUST PLANTING THAT SEED THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE INJECTED, YOU KNOW, MORE MONEY INTO STREET MAINTENANCE AND, AND PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UH, THAN WE'VE EVER DONE BEFORE, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UH, AS WE GET THE PCI DATA NEXT SUMMER AND START TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT, UH, HOW WE FUND STREETS MOVING FORWARD AND AT WHAT, WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE STREETS FUNDING.
THAT'S A, THAT'S GONNA BE A, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG BULKY DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE.
UH, THE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPACTFUL ON THIS SLIDE, IS THAT THE, THE 30 MILLION THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO STREETS EVERY YEAR REALLY FEELS LIKE ABOUT 20 MILLION, UH, BECAUSE THAT 44% INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF CONCRETE EATS INTO THAT, INTO THAT MONEY.
AND SO WHILE WE'VE BUILT INTO OUR, UH, STREETS PROGRAM A THREE, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN FUNDING EVERY YEAR, AND THIS IS WHAT'S KIND OF IN OUR LONG-TERM DEBT MODEL THAT GETS EATEN ALIVE BY INFLATION AND, AND THE COST OF THINGS GOING UP, WHICH FAR EXCEEDS 3.5%.
SO AGAIN, BETWEEN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH OUR PCI AND OUR, OUR SURVEY ASSESSMENT, UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR LONG-TERM DEBT OBLIGATIONS AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN THE LONG, LONG-TERM.
UM, ONCE WE GET ALL THAT INFORMATION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD LONG-TERM DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN SUSTAIN OUR, OUR STREET IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LONG TERM.
SO JUST WANTED TO CONNECT A FEW OF THOSE DOTS, UH, FOR YOU AND KIND OF PREP YOU FOR, UM, UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS, NOT ONLY IN THE CIP THIS YEAR, BUT DEFINITELY AFTER WE GET THAT, THAT PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT, UH, WORK DONE NEXT SUMMER.
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REPORT.COUNSEL, THIS SHOULD BE, I DON'T WANNA JINX IT.
THIS SHOULD BE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD,
UM, SO, UH, MR. ENGLAND, DO YOU WANNA WALK US THROUGH THIS IS, WE HAVE A, IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE A PAPER, UH, DIVISION FIVE CEREMONIAL AND HONORARY PROCEDURES.
IF YOU WILL FLIP IT TO THE REVERSE SIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE RED LINE.
AND THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT ASC IS RECOMMENDING.
AND THIS IS JUST BRINGING CLARITY.
WE HAD AN INCIDENT, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAD NAMED A, UM, A FACILITY AND AMENITY AND HAD NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, PUBLIC INPUT.
SO THIS CAME TO US AS A REQUEST.
AND THESE ARE FAIRLY, UH, SIMPLE CHANGES.
OH, DO YOU WANNA BORROW IT? OKAY.
WELL, HE'D BEEN WAITING TO DO SOMETHING ALL NIGHT, SO, UM, TO BE FRANK, I ACTUALLY WAS NOT THAT INVOLVED WITH THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.
I'VE WORKED ON THE, UM, OTHER POLICY AT THE TIME.
BUT, UM, UM, I GUESS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS IS, UM, UH, YEAH, IF YOU, YEAH, IF YOU'D HELP OUT WITH IT, IT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE IT'S, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T THAT INVOLVED WITH THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.
UH, MEMBERS OF COUNSEL, IF YOU'LL FLIP TO THE, THE BACK PAGE, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL FIND THE, THE RED LINES.
UH, THIS WENT TO COMMITTEE, UH, FOR DISCUSSION TWICE, AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT, UH, STOOD OUT FOR, UH, FOR, FOR, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE.
UH, THE FIRST WAS TO, UH, ALLOW FOR RELEVANT FEEDBACK TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF WE HAVE A, UH, THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE, THE, THE SENIOR CENTER, UH, IN THE EARLY PHASES OF THAT PROJECT, HAVING MORE, UH, STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE IF THERE WERE TO BE, UH, UH, A NAMING, UH, UM, COMPONENT THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO WE DID HAVE A SENTENCE ADDED THAT WE WOULD, UH, ALLOW FOR RELEVANT FEEDBACK DURING THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS.
AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION AS IT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL PLAQUE THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE NAMING OF THE FACILITY.
AND THAT, UH, THERE WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR WHATEVER NAMES WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PLAQUE, AND THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE, THE FINAL VOTE ON WHAT WOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED AND APPROVED FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT PLAQUE.
UH, AND WITH THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE, THE SUBSTANTIVE, UH, CHANGES.
AND THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, YOU MAY HAVE AS REALLY THOSE TWO CHANGES THAT WERE, WERE DEFINED.
UH, SO LET'S GET THIS SCHEDULED FOR FORMAL, UH, CONSIDERATION, UH, DECEMBER 5TH.
[5. Discuss Appointments to Boards and Commissions]
ALRIGHT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS OUR LAST, UH, VERBAL UPDATE THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.UH, TOMORROW NIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS HAS AN APPOINTMENT, UH, THAT WE WILL TAKE CARE OF.
[6. Announce Future Agenda Items]
UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, ANNOUNCED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THIS EVENING? HOLD ON.COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. YOU GUYS ARE COMING IN AND OUT.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE, WELL, I, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE OFFING AND AWNING AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'RE JUST MESSING WITH ME OR, OR WHAT? MY, MY LEG BUST ABOUT IT.
MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE WHICH, WHICH COMMITTEE THIS GO TO, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A REVIEW OF OUR POLICIES, OUR PROCEDURES FOR, UH, BULK, UH, BUCK ITEMS, PICKING UP BUCK ITEMS AND PUTTING OUT BUCK ITEMS IN THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY WOULD GO TO, UM, WHAT BULK? BULK BULK.
YEAH, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA TRANSLATE THAT INTO T RIGHT? I'LL TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU.
TEXANS, IT'S B-U-L-L-K, BUT I'M NOT SHOOTING THAT K
SEE, BUT ANYWAY, AND, BUT, UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT REVIEWED.
I'M, AGAIN, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE, WHAT COMMITTEE THAT IT'S NOT
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PUBLIC SAFETY.MAYBE IT IS NOT ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
WHAT MY REQUEST IS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BULK ITEMS PICK UP SCHEDULED EVERY WEEK.
WE HAVE A POLICY THAT GUIDES THAT, RIGHT? YES, WE DO.
WE'VE GOT A PROCEDURE, WHETHER IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE OR WHATEVER, THAT GUIDES THAT.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE US TAKE A LOOK AT WHATEVER THAT POLICY AND PROCEDURE IS.
BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, AND USUALLY IN MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT, IT'S, IT'S CLOSER TO THE WEEKEND.
BUT ITEMS ARE BEING DROPPED ON MONDAY AND THEY'RE SITTING ALL WEEK, PARTICULARLY LARGE ITEMS LIKE MATTRESSES AND DRESSERS.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMEWHERE IN WRITING.
I, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S, I'VE NOT SEEN IT IN WRITING, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT IT'S IN WRITING.
UH, SO IT'S IN OUR, IT'S IN OUR CODE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I SAW IT SOMEPLACE.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHY I READ THAT.
I MEAN, IT IS IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.
UH, I MEAN, AND IS DETAILED ON EVEN ON THE SANITATION PAGE.
I KNOW I'VE READ IT AND I'D JUST LIKE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ON THE IMPLEMENTA IMPLEMENTATION SIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND THIS WOULD INVOLVE, I'M SURE EWS FOLK, BUT MISS CITY, MAYBE MR. CITY MANAGER, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE COME BACK TO ME ON THAT IF I DON'T HAVE A COMMITTEE? YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF, I'M NOT COMMITTEE, I'M NOT SURE IT'S THAT THIS IS A COMMITTEE THING, BUT MR. CITY MANAGER IS SOMETHING, CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT PROCESS AND BRING IT BACK FOR SOME DISCUSSION OR, OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I'LL SECOND IT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE OF IT? I DO.
LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I READ IT.
SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE OF THAT, BECAUSE IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I'M, I'M, YEAH, I KNOW THAT I'M EXPERIENCING.
OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IT'S A COMMITTEE THING.
UH, BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE AND THE CODES ALREADY EXIST.
UM, IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE ENFORCEMENT RELATED.
IT'S IMPLEMENTATION ENFORCEMENT RELATED.
SO I WILL, I WILL, LET'S HAVE, UH, LET'S HAVE URI UM, CONTACT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, AND, AND MAYBE WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THAT PROCEEDS.
UM, I'D LIKE AN UPDATE FROM CHIEF BRIAN REGARDING THE DALLAS COUNTY DEFLECTION CENTER AND GARLAND'S POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION WITH IT.
UH, MAYOR PROTI, UH, I MEAN IF WE'RE JUST, IF IT'S THE CHIEF JUST GIVING US A REPORT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE.
AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE SECONDS.
WHAT IS THE DEFLECTION SETTING EXACTLY?
MAYOR PRO TEM BASS WAS THE SECOND ON THAT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET, UH, WE'LL GET THE CHIEF IN HERE, UH, FOR A DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM IN A FUTURE WORK SESSION.
ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
[7. Council will move into Executive Session]
EVERYBODY STARTS PACKING UP, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS, UH, THAT MOVES US TO ITEM SEVEN, COUNCIL WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE, UH, HANG ON.THE CITY COUNCIL MAY RECESS FROM THE OPEN SESSION TO CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF THE DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM LISTED AGENDA CONCERNS, ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING MATTERS, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 2 5 5 1 0 8 6 5 5 1 0.087 AND 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, COMPETITIVE MATTERS OF A PUBLIC UTILITY AND ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING, PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME.
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TWO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN THE VICINITY OF SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AND INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 6 35, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, INCLUDING POSSIBLE PURCHASES OF REAL PROPERTY AND ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGE AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME.SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS, UM, GET, GET EVERYBODY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
UH, LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK HERE AT NINE 50.