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[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]

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FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. THIS PORTION OF OUR MEETING IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION IN WHICH WE'RE BRIEFED BY STAFF ABOUT THE CASES AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH ONCE YOU'RE THROUGH WITH THAT WE WILL RECESS UNTIL SEVEN O'CLO IN WHICH WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING. GOOD EVENING. OR I LIKE TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANYTHING ON THE PLATES OR ANYTHING? NOPE. GOOD TO GO THERE. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE 23-47. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A DATA CENTER AND ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS. THERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 48.93 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING AS OUR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. VERSUS CITY WIDE LOCATION MAP. AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR. IT IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST. THIS IS ALSO ON AGRICULTURAL MULTIFAMILY WITH APARTMENTS AND THEN UH PD 1904 AND PD 1613. THERE'S TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES. AND THEN OVER HERE TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS AN, UM, A SENIOR LIVING THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ALMOST COMPLETE. AND THEN TO THE NORTH ACROSS HOLFORD ROAD. THERE'S A FIRE STATION, AND THEN THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS WELL. THE FUTURE LANDINGS METHOD OF THE INVASION. GARLAND PLANT DESIGNATES THIS SITE AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PROPOSED DATA CENTER USE AND ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION OR LOW IMPACT USES, WHICH GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC NOISE OR LIGHT, MAKING THIS DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SENIOR LIVING FACILITY. FOR THE ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. DATA CENTERS GENERATE THE MOST REVENUE PER ACRE BY BUILDING TYPE. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. THE LEFT ONE IS VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. FROM HOLFORD AND WRIGHT IS LOOKING NORTH OF HOLFORD ROAD. LEFT IS LOOKING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

AND THEN THE RIGHT PICTURE IS LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S THE NEW SENIOR LIVING. HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DATA CENTER THREE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS, WHICH WILL BE TWO STORY EACH, AND, UH EACH BUILDING IS 275. 1004 180 SQUARE FEET. UM AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE SUBSTATIONS AT THE BACK.

UH TWO OF THEM WILL BE MAINTAINED BY ENCORE, AND ONE OF THEM WILL BE MAINTAINED BY GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. AND, UM THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM HOLFORD ROAD, AND THE SITE DOES MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND THE PURPOSE OF THE DATA CENTER IS TO STORE DIGITAL DATA AND TO HOW A COMPUTER HARDWARE. AND HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR THE G DC AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN 8 FT.

UH PALISADE, UH, ORNAMENTAL FENCE AROUND THE DATA CENTER. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING , UM, DATA CENTER AND SUBSTATION ALONG LOOKOUT. AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROPOSING 8 FT. SOLID WALL AROUND THE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ADDING ADDITIONAL, UM VEGETA, UH, VEGETATION ALONG HOLFORD ROAD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FULLY SCREENED. UM, AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, THE FENCE AS WELL. HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE APP. SORRY APPLICABLE, UH, BUILDING DESIGN STATUS FOR THE G DC. AND HERE'S JUST A 3D RENDERING OF THAT ONE OF THE BUILDING. AND HERE'S THE, UM SOLID WALL THAT'S GONNA BE AROUND THE SUBSTATION AND THEN THE METAL FENCE. THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS ESTABLISHING A USE BY RIGHT THAT STRONGLY ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN WHILE ALSO GAINING ENHANCED SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING ALONG HOLFORD ROAD, AND THERE ARE NO DEVIATIONS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR

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COMMUNITY OFFICE USES AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR A DATA CENTER AND ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS. AND WE MAILED OUT. 89 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED THREE WITHIN A NOTIFICATION. NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. FOR WITHIN A NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST. THREE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 10 RESPONSES. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, RATHER, UH, I KNOW HOLFORD ROAD IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE AND IT IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR ANYONE TRYING TO BUILD ON THAT. OFF THAT STREET U UNTIL THE ROAD IS IMPROVED. IS THERE ANY TIMELINE ON THE IMPROVEMENT OF HOLFORD ROAD? BECAUSE I DO KNOW THERE'S ONE AT LEAST ONE PERSON RESPONDING ASKED THAT QUESTION.

I I DID ASK ABOUT THAT. AND I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MR GARIN THAT THE SEGMENT A, WHICH IS NORTH OF 190, TO, UH YEAH. PROBABLY TO CAMPBELL ROAD THAT IS IN THE CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED COMPLETION NEXT SUMMER. SEGMENTS B AND C, WHICH ARE IN THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN ARAPAHO AND 190. THOSE ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE, BUT THE DESIGN PHASE HAS BEEN HALTED BECAUSE THE DESIGN AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS DON'T MEET UP SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY CAN GET MORE FUNDS. TO DO THE ROADS, SO IT'S IN THE PROCESS. IT'S UH, TAKING A SLIGHT RECESS UNTIL THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO THERE. YEAH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT HAS A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF THAT ROAD. IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, RIGHT AND THERE'S PROBABLY, UH, UM, FEES INVOLVED, WHICH WOULD CONSTRUCT HALF OF THE ROAD ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT UH, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE TO THAT THERE'S BRIDGES AND OTHER THINGS INVOLVED THAT ARE GONNA UTILITIES ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AND THAT OK, SO IT'S CONTEMPLATED. IT'S ON THE MASTER PLAN, AND IT'S BEEN STARTED. BUT THERE'S A TEMPORARY PAUSE, SO IT'S NOT OUT THERE. UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE SOME MOVEMENT IN THAT REGARD. OK, THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS WE COULD ALWAYS START A GO FUND ME PAGE FOUR TOO. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROSE YEAH, THAT WAS, UH, MY QUE. BUT NOW I HAVE A FOLLOW UP. SORRY I. I MANAGED TO CUT YOU OFF THERE. THERE YOU GO. I'M SORRY. YES I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. AND SO THE CITY SLASH ENGINEERS WHATEVER ARE ANALYZING IT TO SEE ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS OUT. DO THEY HAVE ANY IDEA? I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.

THE DESIGN HAS BEEN STARTED, AND IT BECAME EVIDENT THAT THE FUNDS WEREN'T THERE TO COVER IT. SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WORKING WITH CONSUL AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO SEE. WE'RE FUNDS CAN COME FROM AND MAYBE SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUT THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED. THAT'S NOT A GOOD ANSWER. NO. BECAUSE THERE IS NO ANSWERS TO NO, I'M OFF. HEAR ME OFF. I GOT YOU OFF NOW. OK, THERE YOU GO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE A. UH COUPLE ITEMS HERE ONE YOU'D MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE USING THE SCREEN METAL. LONG HOLFORD. YOU HAVE TO NOTE ON HOLFORD SAYS 8 FT. SOLID SCREEN FENCE SUPERIOR CONCRETE PATTERN COLOR TO BE DETERMINED OR EQUIVALENT. SO. IS THE MAKER OF THE FENCE, I GUESS, UH, SUPREME CONCRETE THEN OR ALONG HOLFORD ROAD. YEAH, ALONG HOLFORD ROAD, AND I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A DEAL IN THERE, SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A TYPO. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. NO PUT IN THE WRONG PLACE. I THINK IT THREW ME A LITTLE BIT. AND THE OTHER AND THIS IS BASED IN COMMUNITY OFFICE. ZONING, CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND UH, YOU KNOW IF IT'S OK WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO RESTRICT THIS TO DATA CENTER USE AND UH, POWER SUBSTATION USE ONLY BECAUSE IN THE COME INTO THE OFFICE, YOU CAN HAVE AUTOMOBILE LEASING RESTAURANT HOTEL LIMITED SERVICE F FULL HOTEL. SOME OF THESE ARE WITH AN SUP CONVENIENCE STORE. AND I THINK ON STUFF GOING LIKE THIS THAT COULD GO IN THERE LATER. I THINK IT WOULD NEED OUR REVIEW. THEY'RE COMING IN WITH THE DATA CENTER. LET'S JUST DO THAT, AND DO IT THAT WAY AND ALSO SOCIAL SERVICE FACILITY COLLEGE. HOSPITAL GYM THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S KIND OF OPEN ENDED. IF THE DATA CENTER DOESN'T GO. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT HANGING OUT THERE FOR YOU. IN WHICH SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND SAY, HEY, LET'S SUBMIT A BRIEF, UH, DETAILED PLAN OR WE MAY BE GETTING RID OF DETAILED

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PLANS, AND IF IT'S USABLE, WE MAY NOT SEE IT AGAIN. SO THAT'S MY PHILOSOPHY THERE AND COMMISSIONER ROSE YOU A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. AND THAT IS THIS APPLICANT IS AWARE THAT HOLFORD ROAD MAY SOME DAY. BE WIDENED INTO FOUR LANES, TWO GOING IN EACH DIRECTION, SO THEY HAVE TO BE AWARE OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEIR FENCE AND THEIR LANDSCAPING. UH, THEY'VE GOT 20 FT. DEDICATED ON THEIR SITE PLAN HERE ALREADY. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OH, COMMISSIONER ROBIN SO JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FROM LOOKING AT THIS. SO THIS IS UH, DID WE RECENTLY APPROVE SOMETHING RIGHT AROUND HERE? IT WAS IT AT HOLFORD AND ARAPAHO. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THE SUBSTATION. THERE WAS SOMETHING OVER THERE. UH BUT ANYWAY, SO, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL. IN THE OTHER. UH THERE A RE OTHER DATA CENTERS IN THE AREA, BUT THEY'RE ALL NORTH OF THE 190 CORRECT OK? YEAH HOW CLOSE IS THIS FACILITY TO THE, UH THE PRESERVE. THE NATURE PRESERVE.

UM SO IT'S LET ME SEE IF I HAVE. I THINK IT BORDERS. UH, DOES IT BORDER IT? I CAN'T TELL NORTHERN PORTION BORDERS THE PRESERVE. YES, THIS IS, UH THIS IS THE PRESERVE RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTH. SO THIS IS PHASE TWO, AND THIS IS PHASE ONE RIGHT HERE. IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR, THAT'S THE I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE FOREST RESERVE. I THINK THAT EASTERN PORTION IS MORE WHERE. OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT PRESERVE IT 00 SORRY, I. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T MEAN IT. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NAMED THE PRESERVE. I MEAN, AN ACTUAL, UH, NATURE PRESERVE. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S TO THE WEST. TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTHEAST. I THINK BOTH SIDES OF ALFORD IF I RECALL WHICH, BY THE WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WATCHING AT HOME NOW IS ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE TROUT LILIES ARE OUT, AND YOU SHOULD TOTALLY GO OUT AND LOOK FOR THE TROUT LO AND THE BOARD TO PRESERVE. IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES I IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, NATIVE IN THE FOREST BOTTOM LANE THERE COOL. AND THEY'LL BE GONE PROBABLY IN A WEEK OR TWO. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE. DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW UP? UH SOME OF THE, UH, RESPONDENTS ARE RESIDENTS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS MAP. ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS, UM LIKE TO THE WEST. I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT ACROSS THE STREET. UH, AND WHENEVER HALLFORD GETS BUILT UP TO FOUR LANES, THEY'LL EVEN BE FURTHER SEPARATED FROM THIS UNIT. SO UH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST NOT TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR RESPONSE PERSONALLY. BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A GREAT SEPARATION. UH, FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT IF IT GOES THROUGH TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL AREA. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MR CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, III. I HAVE NO UH, REAL HEARTBURN. UH, REGARDING THIS, I WOULD, UH, WISH THAT THE LANDSCAPING, UH, WAS MORE CONSISTENT WITH OR AWARE OF THE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE AND THE NATURE PRESERVE SO LARGER CANY TREES OR AT LEAST ALLOWING THOSE KIND OF CANOPY TREES TO REMAIN, UM, THAT THAT THEY COULD, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I'M LISTENING TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUCH AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY I KIND OF REAL ISSUES. I. I JUST WISH THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE MORE CONSISTENT, BUT THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER I MEAN, QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS E 24-03. SAYS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT OF CONDITIONS TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 01-26 FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE SALES NEARER USED BY RIGHT AND BOAT SAILS. LEASING AND REPAIR MOTORCYCLE AT TV SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR NEW AND USED INDOOR ONLY PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR, NEWER USED AND A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TRAILER SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR BY

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SPECIFIC USE PROVISION ONLY. HERE'S THE CASE INFORMATION. THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 6.15 ACRES AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PD 01-26 FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES. THERE'S THE CITY WIDE LOCATION MAP AND THE RED STAR SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN THE TEAL BLUE COLOR. IT IS ON PD 01-26, AND IT'S DEVELOPED WITH A AUTOMOBILE SALES FACILITY FOR NEW CARS. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE PD TO ALLOW, UM USED CARS AS WELL FOR SALE. IN ADDITION TO OTHER USES, WHICH I'LL GO OVER AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL ZONE INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES. YOU ARE. SOME OF THE PHOTOS LEFT. PICTURE IS, UH, YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE FROM LBJ AND TO THE RIGHT IS EAST OF LBJ. AND THEN TO THE LEFT, IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THE RIGHT PICTURE IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, AND THIS IS CURRENTLY EXISTING THIS EXACTLY HOW IT IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW, UH, THE APPLICANT IS NOT MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE. THEY'RE SIMPLY WANTING TO ADD, UM, THE AUTO SES USE. UH, THE NEW, UH, NEW VEHICLE. SORRY FOR USED VEHICLES FOR AUTO SALES USE , UM AND SOME OTHER USES, WHICH I'LL GO OVER AND JUST TO KEEP IN MIND. THE G DC ARE NOW OFFERS THE AUTOMOBILE SALES USE AS NEW AND USED. IT'S BOTH COMBINED. BUT IN PD THIS PARTICULAR PD. IT ONLY ALLOWS THE NEW CARS. THE FEATURE LANDY'S MAP OF THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS BUSINESS CENTER. AND BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOYS LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE OCCUR INTERNAL TO BUILDINGS RESULTING IN MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TYPES AND ARCHITECTURE, CHARACTER SCALE AND INTENSITY. AND HERE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE AUTOMOBILE SALES NEAR USED PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND ALSO, UH, PROPOSING MOTOR. SORRY BOAT SAILS, LEASING AND REPAIR BY SUP AND, UH, THESE SEP REQUESTS WOULD HAVE TO COME IN INTO THE FUTURE. UM THESE ARE JUST ADDING BY SUP. BUT IF THERE IS A REQUEST FOR ANY OF THESE ADDITIONAL USES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN THE FUTURE FOR AN SEP. UM, THE NEXT ONE IS MOTORCYCLE, A TV SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR NEW AND USED INDOOR ONLY BY SUP PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR NEW WERE USED BY SEP. AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TRAILER, TRAILER SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR BY S ONLY. PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO WHETHER ADDING AUTOMOTIVE AND VEHICLE RELATED USES AND STORAGE ARE THE BEST USE OF LAND. THE PLAN RECOMMENDS BEING SELECTIVE ON LAND USE REQUESTS REQUIRING REZONING FURTHER. THE PLAN RECOMMENDS IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF GARLAND'S MAJOR GATEWAYS AND CORRIDORS, FOCUSING ON HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDORS FOR BEAUTIFICATION EFFORT. FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, USE LIMITATIONS AND REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL OF AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONS PD 01-26 TO ALLOW AUTOMOBILE SALES NEAR USE BY RIGHT BOAT SAILS, LEASING AND REPAIR MOTORCYCLE, A TV SALES LEASING AND REPAIR, UH FOR NEW AND USED IN OR ONLY PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TRAILER SALES LEASING REPAIR BY SPECIFIC USE PROVISION. STAFF CONCURS WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 01-26 DISTRICT CONDITIONS AND FINDS THAT THE ADDITIONAL USES PROPOSED DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ECONOMIC DEVE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. AND WE MAILED OUT. 16 LETTERS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 11 QUICK QUESTION WHEN IT SAYS REPAIR. DOES THAT MEAN ANY LEVEL OF REPAIR BECAUSE I NOTICED THERE'S PAINT BOOTH AND BODY SHOPS AND SO THEY CAN DROP ENGINES AND DO ANY KIND OF REPAIR, NOT DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN LIGHT AND HEAVY, OK? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE. YES, I, UH I'M WONDERING WHY THE, UH MOTORCYCLE. LEASING AND

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REPAIR WORK WOULD BE REQUIRED INDOORS ONLY. WHY DOES THAT MATTER? THIS IS JUST THE LANGUAGE FROM THE LAND USE MATRIX AND THE G DC. OK, OK. SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OK THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK OH, NO, WE WE'VE GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT HERE.

I'M SORRY. I ALMOST MISSED THAT. AN UN ENGENDER ITEM NOWYEAH. SORRY UH, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. JUST REAL QUICK. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK AND EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT. UM, THE GENTLEMAN OVER HERE SITTING BEHIND ANGELA, MR DAVID JONES. HE'S A NEW PLANNER. UH, WITH US THAT JUST STARTED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS HIS THIRD WEEK AND, UH, JUMPING RIGHT IN DOING LOTS OF REVIEW AND YOU'LL, UM, OVER TIME. WE'LL START TO SEE HIM MORE AND MORE.

AND UH, JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HIM AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BREAK FOR DINNER IN A LITTLE BIT, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE CHANCE TO VISIT AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES IF YOU LIKE. SO UNLESS YOU WANT TO GIVE US A 15 MINUTES OR SO, PRESENTATION ON YOURS. OK? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK W GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 26 MEETING AT THE

[Call to Order]

GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION IS THIS OUR CUSTOMARY COMMISSIONER? START THE MEETING WITH THE PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY FIX THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION NEVER HAS NEVER WILL. NIGHT TO PRAY AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER ROSE. I PRAY FATHER. GOD, WE HUMBLY COME. BEFORE YOU. SEEKING YOUR ASSISTANCE AND GUIDING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. WE ALSO ASK. FOR, UH, ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE FIRE AND SO FORTH. UH, TAKE CARE OF THEM. WATCH OVER THEM. THEY ALWAYS NEED YOUR HELP. WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION.

UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

UM. ALL RIGHT, OUR APPLICANTS TODAY. IF YOU COME, SORRY, GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANING UP THERE TO DO ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WE NEED THAT FOR THE RECORDS AND APPLICANTS. WE ALLOW 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS. WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES . IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR SOME, WE WILL DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME. AND AGAIN NAME AND ADDRESS , PLEASE. WE'RE GONNA START OUR

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MEETING TONIGHT WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THE COMMISSION WILL BE VOTING WITH ONE VOTE TO APPROVE THESE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL READ THEM OUT AND ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION OR IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WISH. ONE WITHDRAWN FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL DO THAT. ALRIGHT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE FEBRUARY 12TH 2024 MEETING. ITEM TWO A. P 24-05 CENTERVILLE GARLAND. REP. PLATT. ITEM TWO BP 24-07, WEST BANK TOWN HALL HOUSE EDITION. PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS THE ONLY ITEMS ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM REMOVED? SEE NON COMMISSIONERS. OH, YEAH, COMMISSIONER, UH, JENKINS. MOVE. OK? AND I HAD A SECOND PLUGGED IN BY COMMISSIONER PARIS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. A PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ON TO ITEMS FOR

[3.a. Consideration of the application of Prime Data Centers / Munsch Hardt Kopf & Harr, requesting approval of 1) a Change in Zoning from Agricultural (AG) District to a Planned Development (PD) District for Community Office (CO) Uses and 2) a Detail Plan for a Data Center and Electric Substations. This property is located at 2000 Holford Road. (District 7) (File Z 23-47)]

INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ZONING ITEM THREE, A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF PRIME DATA CENTERS AND MUNCH HEART COPE AND CAR REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A COMMUNITY OFFICE USES AND IN DETAILED PLAN FOR A DATA CENTER AND ELECTRIC SUBSTATIONS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN 2000 HA FOR ROAD. I'VE GOT, UH, THREE APPLICANT CARDS OF ONE OR ALL OF THEM. WANT TO COME UP? WHICHEVER ORDER UH, ANGELA HUNT, UH, RUSTY COHEN AND MICHAEL HOGAN. GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I'M ANGELA HUNT AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE. UH, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO SHOW YOU AND IT'S MAINLY JUST TO SHOW YOU THE QUALITY OF THE

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BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'LL BE DOING. UH, THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM HOLFORD ROAD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES AND, UM WE WERE IN THE AUDIENCE DURING YOUR, UH UH, BRIEFING EARLIER INTO COMMISSIONER JENKINS POINT ABOUT THE TREES.

UH, COMMISSIONER, WE ARE CERTAINLY OPEN TO DISCUSSING A DIFFERENT LAYOUT OF THE TREES THAT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE, GIVEN ITS ADJACENCY TO THE PRESERVE, SO WE'RE HAPPY. CONTI CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION WITH STAFF. I WILL SAY WE HAVE ABOUT DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CODE REQUIRED TREES ALONG THE FRONT. UM AND THAT REALLY CREATES MORE OF A LUSH LANDSCAPE, ESPECIALLY AS IT IS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET. ALSO ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT. ALSO ACROSS THE STREET . THERE IS A COMMERCIAL, UM, AREA. THERE'S A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE'S ALSO A FIRE STATION RIGHT OVER THERE, BUT CERTAINLY WE'LL HAVE, UM, A AS COMMISSIONER ROSE POINTED OUT A PRETTY WIDE BERTH FROM UH, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION ON HOLFORD ROAD. I I'M HERE, ALONG WITH OUR ENGINEER RUSTY COHEN, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF PRIME DATA CENTERS IS CHRIS SUMPTER. SO IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. UH AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE ALSO TALKED, UH, WITH WILL ABOUT, UM, THE CHAIR'S POINT ABOUT ELIMINATING OTHER USES, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, OPEN TO THAT AND MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, SINCE THAT IS, UH, A MAJOR INVESTMENT $1.3 BILLION INVESTMENT IN THE PROJECT AND THEN WITH THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'LL GO INSIDE THE BUILDINGS. THAT'S A $3 BILLION INVESTMENT. THANK YOU. WE'RE TALKING REAL MONEY, HUH? A FEW DOLLARS COMMISSIONER ROSE. YEAH. UH, YES, MA'AM. HARFORD ROAD IS BEING DELAYED. FOR A LOT OF REASONS. HOW'S THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE CLIENTS LOOKING AT VERY GOOD PROJECT. UH QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. UH, DATA CENTER USE DOES NOT REQUIRE HIGH TRAFFIC ACTIVITY. UM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PUSHING OUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOLFORD ROAD. UM IT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT, UH THE APPLICANT WOULD UNDERTAKE. UH WITHOUT, UH, FUNDING, UM WITH THE CITY. AND YOUR, UH, YOUR APPLICANT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. AND PUT THIS IN. REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE ALFORD ROAD TO GO FROM BUSH TO I'M SO YEAH, FROM BUSH TO RAPA HO ROAD. YES, SIR. OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. I KNOW A QUESTION IS RAISED BY SOME PEOPLE AROUND THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES AND I AM A TECHNICAL PERSON, SO I UNDERSTAND. THESE BUILDINGS WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE STAFF INSIDE CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 60. FULL TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES, UM, JUST WITH THE OWNERSHIP ENTITY, AND THEN THE TENANTS WILL PROBABLY HAVE AT LEAST 30 EMPLOYEES BETWEEN THE THREE BUILDINGS. THAT RIGHT YEAH . SO 10 PEOPLE PER BUILDING ON A 24 7 BASIS. OR AT LEAST SOME STAFF WILL BE OVERNIGHT OR 24 7 IT WE'RE WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 30. FOLKS IN EACH BUILDING . YEAH OK, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S RAISED. THEY ALWAYS RAISE THINKING THERE'S A HEAVY TRAFFIC LOAD. AND WHEN YOU TAKE ALMOST A MILLION SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDING YOU, YOU NORMALLY WOULD HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT A DATA CENTER IS A VERY, VERY DEAD PLACE INSIDE. IT IS AND COMMISSIONER. ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THIS PROJECT . UM BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC SUBSTATION HERE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE MOVED THE SUBSTATION WHICH HAD BEEN, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT BACK BEHIND IT, AND THAT CREATES A MORE ATTRACTIVE FRONT ALONG HOLFORD ROAD AS WELL. RIGHT I. I APPRECIATE SEEING THAT BECAUSE THAT, UH, REMOVES THAT UM. VIEW FROM ANYONE JUST DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THOSE SUBSTATIONS THAT ARE BACK THERE AND I KNOW AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR HAVING THE UM BUT THAT WAS MORE OF MY QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PEOPLE QUESTIONING TRAFFIC FLOW. AND DURING CONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG ISSUE ON HARFORD ROAD. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND, BUT DURING DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, IT'S VERY , VERY LIGHT PERSONNEL IN THOSE BUILDINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES WOULD BE LIKE OVERHEAD AND SIGNS WHAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON MAKING THE LIGHTING VERY, UH, THOUGHTFUL, BECAUSE WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET SO ALL LIGHTING WILL BE DOWN. LIGHTING WILL BE FOCUSED INWARD. WE AREN'T ANTICIPATING ANY BIG POLE LIGHTING. OK, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. YOU, MR CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT UH UH, THAT WE'VE WASTED DURING THE WORK SESSION. UM I WANT TO REITERATE THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS UM PROPOSAL HIGHLIGHTS AS YOU'VE ALREADY POINTED OUT, UH, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS IN TERMS OF BUFFERING WITH SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING, UH, THAT WERE FAR AND OF FAR AND BEYOND WHAT IT'S REQUIRED OF THE G DC. UM AS I MENTIONED AT THAT TIME AS WELL, I'VE GOT NO PARTICULAR HEARTBURN IN HIM. UM, UH AND AM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION TO WORK ALONG WITH CITY STAFF TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE NATURE PRESERVE AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THAT, UH, WOULULD, UH AMELIORATE SOME OF E CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL LOOK OF THE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. UM ADDITIONALLY, IT LOOKS AS IF THE BUILDING IS REALLY NEW AGE AND MODERN. IT'S NOT SOMETHING IT'S NOT JUST AAA, UH, COMMUNIST, UH, GRAY, YOU KNOW, HORRIBLE LOOKING BUILDING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S THOUGHTFULLY, UH, CONSIDERED AND CONSTRUCTED. SO I. I AM A HAPPY WITH THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND BELIEVE THAT IT COULD BE A GREAT, UH, USE OF THE LAND AND THAT YOU'VE GOT NO NO ISSUES FOR ME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROSE AND COMMISSIONER PERS I. I THINK MY QUESTION IS REALLY FOR STAFF, AND THAT IS IF SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE THEY DECIDE TO TURN THIS INTO A RENTED OFFICE BUILDING OR MANUFACTURING BUILDING. UH, THEY CAN'T DO THAT . FOR ONE REASON I'M THINKING THINKING IS THERE'S NO PARKING BUT WHAT ELSE IS INVOLVED WITH THE CITY IF THEY OPT TO DO THAT? SURE UM AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE. I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING IN THE PREME. AND AT THIS HUNT ALLUDED TO A LITTLE WHILE AGO IN THAT, UM, WE CAN CONDITION THE PD, UM, TO ALLOW ONLY THE DATA CENTER WITH THE SUBSTATION USED ONLY VERSUS OPENING IT UP TO OTHER, UM, USES IN THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN OR, UM, OR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. SO WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARISON AND COMMISSIONER ALEN. GOOD EVENING. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED DURING THE PRE MEETING. BUT JUST WANNA VOICE IT AGAIN IN TERMS OF SOUND . THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME BACK. CAN YOU ADDRESS JUST THE CONCERNS AROUND SOUND AS AN ISSUE? CERTAINLY UH, COMMISSIONER FOR ONE. IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC USE. UM, AS COMMISSIONER , JENKINS NOTED, UM, SECONDLY, THIS IS NOT A ALLOWED USE. UM THE GENERATOR YARD THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD GENERATE SOUND IS BUFFERED BY PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, TWO STORY BUILDINGS, SO WE REALLY DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS, UM BUILDING OR PROJECT THAT CAUSES NOISE ISSUES WITH ITS NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBIN YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE GENERATOR YARD. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? I I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ENGINEER TO COME TALK ABOUT THAT. IN NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. UH, RUSTY COHEN WITH, UH OLEN ENGINEERING. UH 3537 STILL BOULEVARD? UH, SUITE 300, FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS. UH, 72. 703. UM AGAIN, AS ANGELA STATED THAT THE GENERATOR YARDS THAT YOU SEE THERE, UH, IN IN KIND OF THAT GREEN COLOR. UH, WE'VE TRIED TO POSITION THOSE INTERIOR. TO THE BUILDINGS AGAIN. THEY WOULD BE BLOCKED BY THE UH, TWO STORY BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE. UM, AND THOSE GENERATOR YARDS. WILL BE IN ENCLOSED AS WELL. UM FROM A. YOU KNOW, COVERED IN CLOSED, UH, TO ALSO ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT SOUND AS WELL. ARE THEY? ARE THEY FULLY ENCLOSED? OR THEY I MEAN, I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE ENCLOSED. UM. FOR AT LEAST ON THREE SIDES, FOR SURE, BUT I'M I'M PRETTY SURE THEY ARE. WILL BE CLOSED AND DO THESE ONLY RUN AT CERTAIN TIMES. HOW DOES IT GENERATE A YARD WORK WITH RESPECT TO THIS, UM I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I'M I'M MORE I'M ON THE CIVIL SIDE. UM AGAIN. I KNOW THEY'RE THERE. I

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KNOW WE'VE WE'VE GOT SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF AS WELL, UH, THAT WILL BE SCREENED. UM, THE 12 FT. A SCREEN AROUND THOSE AS WELL SO OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. YOU KNEW I'D BE COMING IN ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? DO YOU? DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE DECIMAL RATING OF THE GENERATORS ARE? WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING. WE'LL GET IT RIGHT AT SOME POINT. OH, NO, IT IT'S ALWAYS A TEA M EFFORT. UM HI. CHRIS SUMPTER, UM 324 OAK POINT LANE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS. UH 76092, SO THE DECIBEL LEVELS FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATING IS FOR THE GENERATORS SPECIFIC, BUT I DO KNOW AT A PROJECT LEVEL. WE DO HAVE DECIBEL LEVEL STUDIES THAT WE'VE RUN ON ALL OF OUR OTHER CAMPUSES. MY UNDERSTANDING. IS IT A DECIBEL LEVEL? UM AT RUN TIME IS ABOUT 56 B. SO RELATIVELY LOW, UM, AND TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.

THEY ARE FULLY ENCLOSED UNITS AND THEIR TIER FOUR GENERATORS. SO THEY COME WITH NOISE SUPPRESSORS. SO YOU KNOW, THINK OF CATALYTIC CONVERTER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UM I HAVE ON OCCASION STOOD NEXT TO GENERATORS THAT WERE RUNNING AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE KNEW THEY WERE ON IS BECAUSTHE FLAPS WERE WERE GOING ON THE PLUME. SO THEY'RE GONNA BE RELATIVELY QUIET. I THINK THE NOISIEST PORTION OF THE PROJECT WILL BE THE COOLING UNITS WHICH ARE IN THE BACK, BUT THEY ARE, UH, IT'S A CLOSED LOOP DESIGN, AND THEY'RE BASED ON AN WING TECHNOLOGY. SO DECAL LEVELS ARE REALLY LOW. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE NOISE FROM THE AMBIENT ROADWAY AND THE FREEWAY. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE DATA CENTER. YEAH, FROM WHAT HE JUST SAID ABOUT THE DECIBEL WRITING OF THE GENERATORS AGAINST THE ROAD NOISE. THAT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE, UH, LEVEL AND THOSE GENERATORS WILL RUN DURING LOAD TESTING, WHICH IT RUNS.

OCCASIONALLY THEY'LL ONLY BE RUNNING WHEN THERE IS A TOTAL POWER OUTAGE BECAUSE YOU STILL FEEDING THESE BUILDINGS, I BELIEVE FROM BOTH GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT AND ENCORE, SO THEY'RE BEING DUAL FED. IF ONE'S DOWN THE OTHERS STILL UP, PROBABLY AND THEREFORE THE GENERATOR COMING UP WOULD BE PRETTY RARE. OTHER THAN THE LOAD TESTING THAT WILL OCCUR AT SOME REGULAR INTERVAL AND I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE TESTING INTERVAL IS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO RUN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME EVERY THREE MONTHS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EPA LEVELS THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN, UM, TO STAY UNDER GETTING FINED BY, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT AGENCY. UM BUT, UH YEAH, THEY THEY GENERALLY ONLY RUN DURING TESTING. AND IF THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE, AND IT'S PRETTY SLIM FROM BECAUSE OF THE FACTOR DOUBLE FED. UH, CORRECT.

WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WILL NOT GO DOWN VERY OFTEN, THE ONLY TIMES THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO RUN GENERATORS. IS WHEN WE'RE DOING LOAD SHAVING OR PEAK SHAVING FOR THE UTILITY. AND IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE 100 AND 10 DEGREE DAY OUT, THE UTILITY MAY ACTUALLY CALL US AND ASK US TO RUN GENS AND THEN DROP LOAD FROM THE GRID. THAT WAY. YOU KNOW IF WE NEED SURPLUS POWER, WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND RUN ON THOSE, AND THAT'S ONLY ON REQUEST IF Y'ALL HAD MUCH ON LOAD SHEDDING REQUEST. YOU KNOW, I THINK LAST YEAR DURING SUMMER, WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AT OUR OTHER DALLAS FACILITY WHERE WE WERE ASKED TO DO THAT, AND I THINK WE RAN FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE DAYS. UM PRIMARILY, IT'S INTERMITTENT. IT'S NOT FOR LONG DURATIONS OF TIME. OK, THANK YOU. MISSION ROSE. I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT AREA YOUR FACILITIES ARE GONNA COVER.

I MEAN, IS IT THE IMMEDIATE AREA OR IS IT 10 MILES AWAY, OR I'M JUST CURIOUS. UM BEING THE LANDLORD. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE COVERING. UM WE DO KNOW WHO THE TENANT IS. WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S A CLOUD APPLICATION THAT'S GONNA BE IN THERE. AND IT IS SPECIFIC TO COVER. UM COMPANIES THAT ARE BASED IN AND AROUND THE DFW MARKET. SO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE SERVING, YOU COULD BE ACCESSING THE DATA FROM THIS SITE FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

BUT THE CUSTOMER SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SERVICING ARE BASED HERE IN TEXAS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUPLE THINGS. UH, I MADE IT TO THE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE ALL PRESENTED AND EVERYTHING. AND, UH, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT BEING DONE IN PHASES, AND YOU HAD A GENERAL TIME LINE. IS THERE ANYTHING ANY UPDATE ON THE PHASING OF THE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO BUILD THREE BUILDINGS AT ONE TIME. I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE TELLING YOU IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL THREE BUILDINGS AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO BUILD THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY COME ONLINE ABOUT THREE MONTHS APART. AND THEN AS SOON AS THOSE TWO FRONT BUILDINGS ARE DONE, WE'LL IMMEDIATELY START ON BUILDING THREE. SO UM, I THINK THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS ABOUT 24 MONTHS START TO FINISH TO BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING DONE. WE

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DON'T WANT TO KEEP CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD, AND THAT'S WHEN IT'LL BE MOST DISRUPTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN YOU'RE IN THERE, THE OTHER THAN A BIG BUILDING BEING THERE. THEY WON'T EVEN KNOW YOU'RE THERE. AND, UH, PLEASE DO A BETTER JOB THAN ONE UNDER CURRENT CONSTRUCTION TO LOOK AT IS DONE IN KEEPING THE STREETS CLEAN. THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET DID A GREAT JOB, BUT EVERY TIME I GO DOWN AND LOOK AT WITH ANY WATER AND WASH THE CAR, BUT UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. SO FOR THE NEIGHBORS IF THEY'RE WATCHING THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WILL BE DURING CONSTRUCTION. THERE'LL BE TRUCKS GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT IT'S ALL MANAGED AND UH, IT'S DONE DONE PRETTY WELL. AND THEN IT MAY BE GOOD FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN PUT THE ROAD IN AND WON'T BE TORN UP BY THE TRUCK TRAFFIC. THAT IS TRUE. UM HAVE YOU ALL TALKED WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE SPRING CREEK FOREST PRESERVE? MAYBE MEET WITH THEM, MAYBE GET ANY GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW IT WOULD WORK BETTER AND MAYBE SOME THINGS YOU COULD DO OR THEY COULD DO TO HELP YOU.

IT MAY BE WORTH YOUR WHILE TO HUNT HIM DOWN. I CERTAINLY HAVE NOT MYSELF. DO YOU KNOW IF WE DID THAT DURING TREE STUDY? NO OK, I THINK THERE ARE SOME GROUPS THAT WORK WITH THE FOREST PRESERVE, AND IT MAY BE GOOD TO REACH OUT TO HIM. JUST DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING. WE'D BE HAPPY TO. ALL RIGHTY. AND UH, I DID NOTICE YOU HAD 100 AND 80 PARKING SPACES. DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE OVER PARKED? IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU GOT ABOUT 100 OVER WHAT THE CITY IS REQUIRING, AND YOU COULD RECLAIM SOME OF THAT CONCRETE PLANTS AND GRASS, SAVE A LITTLE MONEY AND WHEN THE PEOPLE SEE ALL THAT PARK, AND YOU THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, SO I THINK YOU KNOW, DO I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH OR TOO MUCH PARKING ON THE SITE? I DO.

HOWEVER FROM A LEASING PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW THE TENANT THAT'S GONNA BE THERE ONCE 100 AND 50 PARKING SPACES FOR THEIRS . UM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE VENDORS THAT WILL BE THERE DURING THE DAY, AS WELL AS THEIR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT OUR STAFF DO I THINK I'M EVER GONNA SEE THAT PARKING LOT OVER 50? PROBABLY NOT. GOOD ON HONEST ANSWER.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. AND YOU'RE OK WITH THE REDUCTION OF THE USES TO THE DATA CENTER, AND IT'S FROM A CONVERSION PERSPECTIVE. ONCE IT'S A DATA CENTER, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETELY TEAR IT DOWN TO MAKE IT ANOTHER USE. YOU COULDN'T JUST CONVERT IT TO AN OFFICE. OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INPUT, I'LL CALL YOU BACK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO DRESS IT? COME ON DOWN. YEAH. JUST. HOLD ON TO IT. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GIVE IT TO YOU. THERE YOU GO. OH, DID YOU NOT WANT TO SPEAK? YEAH, OK, COME ON DOWN. COMPLETELY OUT OF MY ELEMENT. UH, WE'RE ALL FRIENDS DOWN HERE.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. MY NAME IS MARK QUINN. I LIVE AT 2125 JASMINE 75044. I AM AGAINST THE PROJECT BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS HOLFORD OVER ON JASMINE. AND UM, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, BUILDING WONDERFUL THING, BUT IT'S NOT JUST ONE BUILDING I'VE LEARNED. NOW IT'S THREE. AND, UM . MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE MOVING SOME INDUSTRIAL AREA INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. UH, OTHER THAN I'M SORRY. THIS IS GONNA SOUND CRASS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A MONSTROSITY. AND UM, TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO HAVE IT ALL BUILT. UM I'M YES, I'M CONCERNED. LIKE EVERY OTHER RESIDENT WHO MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HERE TONIGHT. FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT NONETHELESS, UH, JUST WRAPPING UP UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY I'M AGAINST IT FOR THESE VERY REASONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND LOCALLY, UH BUT STILL IT'S IN MY BACKYARD. AND. FROM THE ELEVATION VIEWS. IT LOOKS TO BE LIKE ABOUT 100 FT. TALL I HAVE. I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T ASK, BUT, UM 100 100 AND 20 FT. TALL. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE HIDDEN WITH TREES. THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME, UH, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. COMMISSIONER ROSA HAS A QUESTION, OR, UH. THIS IS GONNA TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO BUILD, THEY SAY. WHEN HARFORD ROAD GETS . RECONSTRUCTED THE FOUR LANES. FROM BUSH TO ARAPAHO. THAT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO AFFECT YOU AND GET IT TIGHTER TO YOUR, UH, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? WELL, I DON'T

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KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT. SO LIKE I SAID, I, UH I'M UH, YOU KNOW.

HAVE, UM A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ON THIS, UH, I I'M JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE LETTER I RECEIVED IN THE MAIL. AND I APPRECIATE THAT IF I DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT I WOULD KNOW NOTHING OF IT. EARNING ABOUT JUST THIS BUILDING. WHAT ABOUT, UH, HARFORD ROAD BEING RECONSTRUCTED, REBUILT? NOT REALLY PART OF THE CASE. I KNOW IT, BUT IT BUT IT IT AFFECTS HIS ATTITUDE AND APPROACH AND FEELINGS WELL, BUT THAT THAT WILL BE A TEMPORARY THING.

THAT'S A FIX. THAT'S A ROAD THAT'S NOT A BIG INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, LOOKING AT MY BACK WINDOW. YEAH, SO THERE I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN THE CITY. AND UM, I'M JUST I'M NOT SURE WHY I'M WHY THE DEVELOPER COULDN'T LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES. WELL FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH DATA CENTER WITHIN WITHIN A MILE OF EACH OTHER JUST ABOUT AND THERE ARE REASONS FOR THAT, AND THE ACCESS TO TWO GRID SYSTEMS, THE ENCORE AND THE GIRL POWER AND LIGHT AND THAT IS CRITICAL TO HAVE THE BACKUP POWER SOURCES. IN ADDITION TO THE GENERATORS, WHICH RUN ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE TO SO THAT THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF CONGREGATED AROUND HERE BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS YEARS AGO. IN I LIVE UP THERE BY THE OTHER TWO.

WELL, THERE'S A THIRD ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH GET USED TO IT. AFTER I STARTED DRIVING BACK AND FORTH. ONE OF THEM IS KIND OF UGLY, BUT THE OTHERS REALLY NICE LOOKING I WON'T SAY WHICH ONES WHICH, OK, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME. IT'S CHANGE IS TOUGH. IT ALWAYS IS. AND THAT'S THE ONLY CONSTANT IN LIFE IS CHANGE. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT AND I'M STILL AGAINST IT. YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ABUT OR JUST LET US GO OR I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE UNDERLYING, UH ZONING CHANGE WHICH IS ZONED TO CO, UH IS ONLY PERMITTED FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE OR OTHER USES WOULD REQUIRE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE DATA CENTER USE AND THE SUBSTATION. USE. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OK, A MOTION BY, UH YEAH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND I DID. I HEAR A SECOND FROM WELL, I HAD TWO PEOPLE PUNCH IN FOR A SECOND.

THE FIRST ONE IS COMMISSIONER AIN YOU WANT TO MAKE A SECOND OR NO. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE OK, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSIONER ALBIN AND COMMISSIONER PARIS. THANK YOU, UH, MR CHAIR. UM. IS GOOD AS THIS FACILITY MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF ITS DESIGN, AND AS GOOD AS IT MAY BE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THESE FACILITIES FROM, UH, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT OR VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY. THEY GENERATE A LOT OF TAX REVENUE.

UH, PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S ALSO FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AND OTHER THINGS WHERE THE SALES OF EQUIPMENT AND OTHER STUFF OCCUR WITHIN THE CITY. UM BUT WE ARE STRICTLY A LAND USE BODY AND FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE. I. I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY SUPPORTING THIS. IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL UH, IT IS NOT JUST ACROSS THE STREET. IT IS NEXT DOOR. IT IS TO THE SOUTHEAST. IT IS TO THE EAST. IT IS TO THE NORTHEAST. THERE'S A FOREST A VERY, VERY VALUABLE.

NATIVE FOREST BOTTOM PRESERVED TO THE NORTHEAST. UH, THERE IS SOME THAT THE FIRE STATION IS ACTUALLY MOVING. UM THE OTHER FACILITY. THAT'S THERE IS, UH, THAT IT'S BASICALLY A LANDSCAPING TYPE THING. I MEAN, IT'S NOT IT IS JUST NOT HEAVY. IT IS NOT INTENSE AT ALL. AND I JUST I HAVE TROUBLE I REALLY HAVE TROUBLE PUTTING EVEN IF EVEN THOUGH IT IS, ADMITTEDLY, IT IS LOW DENSITY. IT IS LOW TRAFFIC. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU REALLY DO WANT IN YOUR CITY. THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY BUY A LOT OF ELECTRICITY. THEY DON'T REQUIRE A LOT OF POLICE OR FIRE SERVICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I JUST CANNOT GET PAST THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING INDUSTRIAL UH , IN IT, AND IT IS INDUSTRIAL.

WE'RE PUTTING INDUSTRIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL INTO AN AREA THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY RESIDENTIAL. UM

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AND FOR, UH, AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN ZONED AGRICULTURE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IF IT HADN'T BEEN ZONED AG, YOU KNOW WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE CITY C COUNCIL, UM RIGHT BY THE TOWN GATE. A APARTMENT. UH UH, UH, DISTRIBUTION FACILITY CAME IN THE AD GAZI FACILITY THAT WAS LARGE. UH DISTRIBUTION FACILITY BUT THAT HAD BEEN ZONED INDUSTRIAL FOR SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 25 YEARS. AND SO THERE'S NO KIND OF YOU KNOW IT IT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON A BORDER THAT IS VERY MUCH INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NEXT TO THE DAISY PLANT TO THE MAE PLANT TO EVERYTHING. AND SO I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT AS A VERY DIFFERENT CASE THAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, UM, COMMISSIONERS, I'M I'M INCLINED TO, UH TO OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM I, UM AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR, UH, A NUMBER OF REASONS AND I'LL BEGIN HERE. THE CITY OF, UH RICHARDSON HAS DONE REALLY WELL, UH ALONG TELECOMMUNICATION TELECOMMUNICATIONS PARKWAY. EXCUSE ME, A NUMBER OF, UM INDUSTRIAL, UH, TYPE COMPLEXES OR BUILDINGS THAT ARE, UH, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE MODEL AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED, UH, WAS THAT THOSE? UH UM EMPLOYEES OF THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES WOULD BE IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE AGRI IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE PRESENCE OF THOSE, UM, LARGE INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH YOU WITH A COMMERCIAL, UH, HE USES, UH, ENCOURAGED, UM, A CERTAIN KIND OF LOOK AND FEEL TO A NEIGHBORHOOD LONG TERM. I THINK IT CAN WORK. WELL UH, AGAIN. THE BUILDING IS NOT, UH, SOME GESTAPO SORT OF CREATION. UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THOUGHTFULLY, UH, CONSTRUCTED IN AND ARTICULATED AND DESIGNED, UH AND THEY IT'S IT SEEMS, OR IT APPEARS AS IF THE DEVELOPER IS OR THE APPLICANT EXCUSE ME IS WILLING TO. UM UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IDEA OF THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT BEING IN THE NATURE RESERVE AND THE RESIDENTIAL AND MAKE ENHANCEMENTS TO FURTHER IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND THE YEAH, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, UH, I BELIEVE , UH UH, AS WE DISCUSSED AUTO SALES OR AUTO REPAIR IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY RIGHT IN THE CEO AREA THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT TALKING, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE WE'RE TALKING SOMETHING VERY MODERN AND SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, UH, UM, IMPORTANT TO THE WELL BEING OF THE CITY. SO THAT'S THE SECOND, UH, THIS THIS TYPE OF, UH, USE, UH, AS YOU'VE INDICATED, UH, COMMISSIONER AUBURN IS INCREDIBLY, , IMPACTFUL ON THE CITY'S ECONOMIC WELL BEING. UM AND IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE BEST USE OF LAND, UH, LONG TERM, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT COULD EITHER A ENHANCE THE UNDERLYING TAX BASE AND PERMIT SERVICES TO THOSE AREAS TO CONTINUE TO REALLY GROW AND BE PROFOUND OR BE ENCOURAGED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA AT SOME LATER POINT IN TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY. THERE'S AN OLDER, UH, SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THERE. WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. I CERTAINLY CAN'T TELL WHAT I'LL HAVE FOR LUNCH TOMORROW. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S 23. I BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, THE IDEA OF THE INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL MIX, UH, WHILE IN INCREDIBLY CONTENTIOUS CAUSES INDUSTRIAL USES TO BE MINDFUL THAT THEY HAVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. UM I MYSELF LIVE, UH, VERY CLOSE TO A WATER TREATMENT FACILITY TO A LANDFILL AND TO WHO KNOWS WHAT IS BEING PUT ON THE PLAT THAT WE JUST ALL APPROVED THIS EVENING. UM, I, I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE A MIX AND ZONING. IT ENCOURAGES EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THAT WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY AND THAT WE ARE, UM UM HOLDING HANDS IN IN THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER. UH, SO FOR THOSE THREE REASONS, I'M GONNA BE, UH, IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AND I THINK EVERYONE FOR LETTING ME TALK THIS LONG. THANK YOU. YOU. THREE MINUTES ARE UP. COM COMMISSIONER ROSEN UH, THANK YOU, SIR. UH, MY CONCERN FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT THERE UH, IS THAT IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN? AND A AN APARTMENT COMPLEX DECIDES TO GO IN THERE OR A TOWNHOUSE. UH DEVELOPMENT DECIDES TO GO IN THERE. YOUR TRAFFIC WILL BE MISERABLE. WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THERE, THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY LIGHT. YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH. LIKE COMMISSIONER AL AND I, TOO, ORIGINALLY WANTED RESIDENTIAL IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT IT ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THIS USED TO BE A BIG OLD HALL ON THE GROUND. IT WAS A GRAVEL PIT. AND IT WAS FILLED IN

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AND THE OWNER COULDN'T GET A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILDERS IN THERE FOR STRUCTURAL REASONS.

UM, I'M AN ARCHITECT. I'VE DESIGNED HOMES AND I'VE HAD MORE. ONE JOB FALL THROUGH BECAUSE SOIL ANALYSIS SAID IT WAS GONNA COST $70,000 FOR A FOUNDATION. SO THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES. ONE OF THEM WAS AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE WHICH WE SHOT DOWN RIGHT AWAY, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPACTFUL FOREVER. TRAFFIC WISE AND NOISE WISE TO THE FOLKS ACROSS THE STREET. SO WE SHOT THAT ONE DOWN AND THIS LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE 24 MONTHS, PROBABLY PROBABLY SOME KIND OF LITTLE HELL THERE TRAFFICKING AND OUT AND NOISE AND STUFF. BUT AFTER THAT, THEY SHOULD BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING WE'LL BE HERE. WE'RE READY. YOU KNOW MORE DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE PROVISION THAT THE USES BE LIMITED TO THE DATA CENTER AND THE SUBSTATIONS. AND COMMISSIONER PARIS. I DON'T THINK YOUR VOTE TOOK THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THAT PASSES 5 TO 3 WITH COMMISSIONERS CORNELIUS AUBIN AND ABEL, UH IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THIS WILL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE. DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT'LL BE, BUT UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY, THEY WILL

[3.b. Consideration of the application of ZoneDev, requesting approval of an amendment of conditions to Planned Development (PD) District 01-26 to allow Automobiles Sales, New or Used by right; and Boat Sales, Leasing and Repair; Motorcycle/ATV Sales Leasing and Repair (new and used-indoors only); Personal Watercraft Sales, Leasing and Repair (new or used); and Recreational Vehicle/Trailer Sales, Leasing and Repair by Specific Use Provision only. This property is located at 11675 Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway. (District 5) (File Z 24-03)]

MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. OK NEXT ITEM IS ZONING CASE THREE B CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF ZON DEV REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT OF CONDITIONS TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 01-26 FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES NEWER USED BY RIGHT BOAT SAILS, LEASING AND REPAIR MOTORCYCLE, A TV SALES LEASING, REPAIR NEW AND USED INDOOR ONLY PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR, NEW OR USED AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TRAILER SALES, LEASING AND REPAIR BY SPECIFIC PROVISION USE ONLY THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 11 6 75 LBJ. AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE.

RICHARDSON, TEXAS 75080. REPRESENTING CAPITAL AUTOMOTIVE, UM, WE ALSO HAVE NATHAN WOOD WITH CBRE. OUR BROKER TEAM HERE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT YOU CAN HELP WITH SOME SOME OF THE SUB MARKET DATA AND THE CHALLENGES OF THIS PROPERTY AND FINDING A TENANT.

LONE STAR. CADILLAC HAS BEEN IN THIS PROPERTY FOR, UH, ABOUT 20 YEARS. UM, THEY, UM THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE UM, LEAVING THE BUILDING VERY SOON. UM TOWARDS THE END OF DECEMBER, 2024 SHORTLY THEREAFTER, UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO RETEN IT THE SPACE, UM UM, AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2001 BASICALLY ALLOWS NEW AUTOMOBILE SALES ONLY. UM AND THEN, WHEN THE G DC WAS ADOPTED IN 2015, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON THAT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, UM, WHICH WAS A WAS A WAS A FUN, FUN TIME, BUT 11 OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE, UM, COMBINE NEW AND USED AUTO SALES AS ONE CLASSIFICATION AND TYPICALLY YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS WHEN THERE'S A NEED, UM, WHEN DIFFERENT USES HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.

THE NATURES ARE DIFFERENT OF THE USE. AND SO, UM, YOU NEED TO ALLOW THEM IN AREAS AND NOT IN OTHERS, AND IT WAS DETERMINED BACK AT THAT TIME THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEW AND USED FROM A LAND USE COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT. UM YOU SELL CARS? YOU HAVE, UM, A RETAIL AND, UM, SERVICE COMPONENT. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION. SO WE'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE PD TO ALIGN WITH WHAT? THE CITY UH, APPROVED AT THAT TIME, UM, BY ALLOWING A USE BY RIGHT, THAT'S UM, BEEN HERE FOR DECADES AND HAS BEEN A GOOD USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. UM. SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES HERE. UM, THAT WE HAVE IS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE USE ALLOWED. AND SO A LOT OF PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, ARE ZONED IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A NUMBER OF USES ALLOWED AND WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND WE GO TO MARKET TO TRY TO RE RE TENANT THE SPACE. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY HERE UNDER OUR CURRENT ZONING. SO THIS IS A PURPOSE BUILT CAR DEALERSHIP. IT'S NOT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER USES. UM, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR THE WAY THE BUILDING IS BUILT, AND, UM, THE PARKING THAT'S THERE. UM AND SO YOU KNOW THAT REALLY THIS IS THERE AREN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR THIS SITE.

SO UM, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BACKFI THE SPACE BY ALLOWING FOR PRE OWNED OR NEW. UM AND WITH NEW OF COURSE, THERE'S USUALLY A PRE OWNED COMPONENT OF THE SALES COMPONENT. THE OTHER

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PART OF THIS REQUEST IS WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME AUTO RELATED USES. UM I IF WE GET A TENDER, THAT'S UM A BOAT SET A BOAT TYPE TENANT, UH, MOTORCYCLE SALES, RV PERSONAL WATERCRAFT. ALL THOSE USES IF THEY'RE NOT CONVENTIONAL , IF THEY'RE NOT A CONVENTIONAL TRUCK OR CAR SALES, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS SO WE'D HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. YOU WOULD GET TO REVIEW THE OPERATOR THE NATURE OF THE USE, SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY ANY SORT OF ANY KIND OF BUSINESS. UM, WITH THIS REQUEST TONIGHT. LOOKING AT THE THIS AREA. I MEAN, YOU START DIVING INTO THIS PROPERTY. IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW IT EVEN DEVELOPED WITH THIS USE IN IN SOME CASES, BUT DEFINITELY NOT HOW NOTHING ELSE COULD COULD REALLY GO HERE. YOU HAVE, UM YOU HAVE CAR DEALERSHIPS. SO WE YOU KNOW IT. THE GOOD THING IS THAT HOTELS LAW BASICALLY TELLS US THAT, UH, USES LIKE TO GO NEXT TO OTHER USES, BECAUSE, UM, THEY LIKE TO SHOP FOR THE SAME THING SO THAT YOU SEE THAT WITH CAR LOTS IS SOMEONE WILL GO PURPOSELY LOOK FOR A CAR AND THEY'LL JUMP AND CROSS SHOP. AND SO THERE'S THE ADVANTAGE THERE AND SO YOU DO HAVE THAT HERE, BUT IT'S A IT'S A PURPOSE DRIVEN TRIP. IT'S NOT AN IMPULSE BUY. TYPICALLY PEOPLE DON'T JUST GO BUY A CAR UNLESS THEY'RE JUST FILTHY RICH, AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO STOP OFF ON THE WAY HOME AND BUY SOMETHING. USUALLY I'M GOING OUT TO BUY TO SHOP TODAY, SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. UM IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINE BEHIND US. WE HAVE THE DART RAIL, UH, BEHIND US. UH I'D SAY DAR RAIL RAILROAD BEHIND US. UM I SHOULD SAY RAILROAD, UH, WATER TOWER AND INDUSTRIAL USE IS ALL TO THE BACKSIDE OF US, UM SO THEY THEY'RE JUST THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GOOD ADJACENT SEAT HERE. UM, THERE'S ALSO TERRIBLE CROSS ACCESS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY. WE HAVE NO CROSS ACCESS TO OUR OUR, UM COMPETITOTOR TO OUR, UH, NOR. UM AND THEN THERE'S NO ACCESS EAST IN THE GARLAND BECAUSE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE UTILITIES, SO THERE'S NO LOCAL STREET IN INTERCONNECTIVITY. IT'S EVEN GONNA GET WORSE. UM THAN THE ACTIVITY OR THE ACCESS WE HAVE NOW. IT'S GONNA GET A LITTLE BETTER FROM AN ACCESS ROAD STANDPOINT. BUT BASICALLY THIS SHOWS YOU THAT THE EXISTING RAMP, THE EXISTING RAMP ACTUALLY PUTS THE TRAFFIC PAST OUR DRIVEWAY SO YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO OUR DRIVEWAY. UM UNDER THE CURRENT RAMP NOW WHERE THE PRO PROPOSED RAMP IS GOING WITH A PERMANENT RAMP WILL BE. IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH OR BACK, SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO AT LEAST TURN INTO OUR SINGLE ACCESS DRIVE. UM BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE IS THAT MCCREE ROAD, ACCORDING TO OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, ONCE THE SERVICE ROAD IS COMPLETE, AND IT'S ELEVATED SERVICE ROAD WITH THIS STOP SIGN. IT'S NOT A STOP LIGHT. THERE'S NOT A CONTINUOUS IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CONTINUOUS SERVICE ROAD THAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD, UM ENJOY. BUT WHEN THAT WHEN THAT IS FINISHED, MCCREE ROAD IS GOING TO BE A DEAD END. IT'S GONNA BE A CUL DE SAC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA HAVE ANY LOCAL ACCESS FROM THE SERVICE ROAD FROM A GARWIN LOCATION. UM FROM THE TREE ROAD. UM, SO REALLY, THE SITE ISN'T FEASIBLE FOR MOST RETAIL USES. UM AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD TRY TO RELOCATE HERE. I'VE TRIED TO LOOK AT LOCATE HERE IN THE EVENT THAT A AUTO SALES IS NOT APPROVED. UM HERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF PHOTOS. TAKE A LOOKING SOUTH THAT SHOWS YOU THE RAMP THAT'S ELEVATED THERE, UM, IN THE FRONT OF THE SITE. THE WITH THE ADJACENT THE SURROUNDING INDUS INDUSTRIAL USES OF RAILROAD TRACKS, AND, UM ALL OF OUR LIMITATIONS IT IT REALLY. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A RETAILER HERE, SUCH AS, LIKE A, UH, AN ENTERTAINMENT USE. UM, SOME SORT OF AMUSEMENT. THEY LIKE TO GO NEXT TO OTHER RETAIL USES OTHER RESTAURTS, OTHER OTHER AMUSEMENTS, SO THAT WAY THEY THEY BENEFIT FROM THE SYNERGY OF SOMEONE GOING OUT TO EAT THAN WATCHING A MOVIE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FIREWOOD TOWN CENTER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HERE AND I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WANTS TO CREATE PLACES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS NOT THAT SITE JUST GIVEN OUR ADJACENT AND GIVEN HOW IT SORT OF CUT OFF FROM ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND IT. WE THINK WHAT IT'S BEEN, IS WHAT IT IS THE OPTIMAL USE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SOME UM , CAPACITY THERE. UM SO IF IT'S NOT VEHICLE SALES, WHAT IS IT? UM SO OUR TEAM IS THOUGHT IT COULD BE A CONTRACTOR LIKE CEREBRAL CONTRACTOR BUSINESSES, OR, UM, WAREHOUSING OR TOOL RENTAL. BE BUSINESS WHERE YOU INTRODUCE OUTSIDE ELEMENTS. ALL THOSE WE DON'T THINK THE CITY WOULD LIKE BECAUSE IT C, YOU KNOW, DETRACTS FROM THE IMAGE OF THIS CORRIDOR, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THOSE ARE REALLY THE OTHER USES THAT WOULD BE VIABLE FOR THE SIDE. IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY HERE WITH WITH NEW AND PRE OWNED. UM AS FAR AS THE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND AND I LIVED AT, UM, WORKING HERE A LONG TIME AND ON THE COMMISSION OF NOT OF THE PROLIFERATION OF SMALL AUTO SALES AND REPAIR BUSINESSES THAT THE MOM AND POPS HAVE COME IN, AND THEY'VE THERE'S BEEN TOO MANY OF THEM IN SOME OF THE CORRIDORS. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HOPE YOU DON'T GROUP US

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IN WITH THAT, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS SUCH THAT YOU KNOW IT PRODUCES. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN PAY. YOU KNOW 60 TO $70,000 A MONTH IN RENT, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A MOM AND POP HERE? THIS IS GOING TO BE A NATIONAL TENANT. UM, IT'S GOING TO ACT. IT'S GONNA LOOK AND ACT LIKE A NEW DEALERSHIP. BUT IT MAY NOT BE A NEW DEALERSHIP. IT MAY BE PRE OWNED.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED, AND THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES THERE, UM SINCE COVID. A LOT OF THESE NEW DEALERSHIPS ACTUALLY SELL A TON OF PRE OWNED UH, CARS AS WELL.

SO IT'S BECOME MORE INTERCHANGEABLE. SO NOT ONLY IS IT IS IT INTERCHANGEABLE FROM A GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDPOINT, BUT IN THE ACTUAL INDUSTRY, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE NEW DEALERSHIPS THAT SELL A TON OF USED CARS. AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL VERY NEW VEHICLES. YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CAR THAT'S NEW AND ONE OR TWO YEARS OLD. BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL USUALLY CERTIFIED, AND THEY ALL FUNCTION THE SAME FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT. UM THERE'S I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S CUT OFF TOP. SORRY BUT, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. UM, UNDER UNDERSTAND, I. I WENT THROUGH THAT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. UM IT TALKS ABOUT INCREASING CITY REVENUE THROUGH TAX BASE AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT CAR DEALERSHIPS GET A BAD RAP, BECAUSE THE SALES FROM A CARDIO SHIP, UM GOES TO THE STATE. WELL THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE STILL PROPERTY TAX PROPERTY. A PROPERTY TAX WITH THE CITY BENEFITS FROM, UM THERE'S ALSO A THE RE REPAIR AND SERVICE COMPONENT THERE, AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG COMPONENT HERE. A LOT OF THE SALES FROM THAT ACTUALLY DO GO TO THE TO THE CITY. UM AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S AN ANNUAL INVENTORY TAX THAT ALSO GOES TO LOCAL ENTITIES. UM NOT FOR THE DIRECT SALE OF VEHICLES, BUT THEY BASICALLY EVALUATE HOW MANY CARDS ARE ON THE LOT FOR AN AVERAGE FOR OVER A YEAR, AND THEN THAT ACTUALLY GETS ASSESSED AND ALSO, SO THERE'S MORE BENEFITS FROM A TAX STANDPOINT THAN WHAT MIGHT MIGHT ONE MIGHT THINK. WE'RE ALSO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER. WE WILL HAVE WE HAVE 35 JOBS FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA GET A, UM, A IN KIND USE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 35 JOBS FOR THE SERVICE AND REPAIR AND THEN THE SALES AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE JOBS ARE HIGHER TRAINING AND, YOU KNOW, HIGHER EDUCATION TYPE JOBS. THEY'RE NOT JUST YOUR, UM, FAST FOOD, RESTAURANT TYPE OR OR SOMETHING ELSE. UM IF THE SITE IS NOT OCCUPIED WITH AN AUTOMOTIVE USE OF A PRE OWNED OR NEW, UM, AGAIN FOR, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THEIR USES WOULD BE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE IN NATURE, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T ISN'T RETAIL IN NATURE THAT REQUIRES BETTER ACCESS AND VISIBILITY. UM THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN IN GARLAND , UM, ACTUALLY DID AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES AND WHAT IT DID SHOW IS THAT BUT THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT ONLY IN GOOD OR EXCELLENT CONDITION, IT'S OF EXCELLENT QUALITY. SO WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND THE BEST WAY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY IS TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO RE TENANT THAT SPACE SO IT DOESN'T GO DARK. UM AT THE END OF THE YEAR. U THIS ISN'T A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PERPETUATE A UGLY PROPERTY OR SOMETHING. THAT'S THAT'S UNDER UNDERDEVELOPED OR, UM, NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED. THIS IS A NICE LOOKING DEALERSHIP THAT WE LIKE TO KEEP THAT WAY AND RE RE 10. SO IN CONCLUSION, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT.

IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT KEEPS THE BUILDING FROM BEING VACANT AND WITH THE NEGLECT AND BLIGHT THAT GOES WITH IT. UM AND THEY ALL I GUESS I MENTIONED THEY ALL ALTERNATIVES COULD BE MUCH WORSE. UM AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY SORT OF LIKE RELATED, UH, SAY, UM, AUTO TYPE USE. SO YOU HAVE THE SAFEGUARD THERE TO UM, REVIEW ANY SORT OF THING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE. THERE. THAT'S NOT YOUR CONVENTIONAL CAR TRUCK. UM AGAIN . THIS IS GONNA BE A TENANT THAT'S GONNA PAY HIGH RENT. SO YOU YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A, UH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR TO A TON OF SMALL AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIPS, AND WE WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO SAFEGUARD HERE IS TO CONDITION THE PD TO ONLY ALLOW ONE CEO FOR THE PROPERTY AND, UM, THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T JUST CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEY COME IN AND HAVE A LOT OF LIKE FLEA MARKET, NOT A FLEA MARKET. BUT THE CONCEPT OF BURNING IN A LOT OF MOM AND POP WERE TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. WE EXPECT TO DELIVER A NATIONAL TENANT HERE OF SOME KIND, UM, COMPARABLE TO THE NEW DEALERSHIP THAT'S THERE. I THINK I WILL STOP THERE. I WANNA MAKE SURE IF YOU ON ALL MY POINTS. THINK I HAVE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, OK, COMMISSIONER ROSE WOULD YOU PUT THE PICTURE? UH THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT. I GOT A FEW OF THOSE. WHICH ONE, WOULD YOU? THAT'S A GOOD ONE. SO ALL THESE OTHERS? THAT'S WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. YES AND THAT'S WHAT'S AC MOSTLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING

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ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH IT'S ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AND SOUTH OF I GUESS SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS WELL, THAT SOUTH IS ACTUALLY DALLAS NORTH IS GARLAND. CO CORRECT. IT'S UM, NOW IS A IS A ACROSS WEST OR TO THE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. BUT YES, SO WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU U KNOW WHE IT SAYS SUBJECT SITE? GOING ACROSS THE STREET. WHAT'S OVER THERE? THAT'S ALL INDUSTRIAL. THERE WE GO. THAT'S LOOKING EAST. THAT'S THAT'S THERE'S BASICALLY THE RAILROAD TRACKS THE TRANSMISSION LINE AND THEN THE INDUSTRIAL BACK OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.

YEAH THOSE TWO PHOTOGRAPHS REALLY ILLUSTRATE. TO ME. A USE. THE KIND OF YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER. COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ABEL. I JUST WANNA MAKE THE POINT AND AS SOMEONE THAT DRIVES THIS DAILY, UM THE NEW ROADBED FOR 635 IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. AND THAT SUBJECT SITE. YOU CAN PASS IT WITHOUT SEEING IT FROM THE NEW ROAD BED. SO I. I'M LOOKING FOR HIGHEST AND BEST USE WHENEVER I'M HERE AND I RIGHT NOW THINK THAT'S IT BASED ON DRIVING PAST IT AS YOU COME DOWN THE HILL FROM WHERE THE MCCREE ROAD NEW GARLAND ROAD ENTRANCE TRAMP WILL BE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THERE WITH THE SCREENING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING IN WITH THE FREEWAY. SO I MEAN, IT'S A CHALLENGING SITE FOR SURE.

COMMISSION, DALTON. THANK YOU. HELLO, MAXWELL. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. UM YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT MCCREE ROAD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS MCCREE ROAD WILL BEGIN AT THE GARLAND RD SHALLOW INTERCHANGE . IT WILL CONTINUE AS A SERVICE ROAD UP TO JUPITER. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LAST MAP I LOOKED AT. I'VE I'VE GOT SOME IMAGING FROM THE DESIGN. BUT THE EXIT FOR JUPITER WILL BE PROBLEM THE OTHER SIDE OF GARLAND ROAD. IT'S GONNA BE. CLOSER TO SHALLOW NORTHWEST HIGHWAY WILL BE THE EXIT. FOR THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE, SO UNLESS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING HERE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE. EXACTLY. I MEAN, UM, I. I MEAN, HONESTLY, I'M AFRAID FOR ANYBODY THERE. UH AND I'M SURE LONE STAR CADILLACS. THINKING IS WE'RE NOT GONNA DO BUSINESS WHEN THIS IS ALL DONE. BECAUSE NOBODY CAN GET HERE NOW, LET ALONE AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE RAMPS ARE ALL MOVING, UH, THEY'LL BE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC FLOWS RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET OFF THE PLANO ROAD. SO, UM YEAH, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR THE OWNER. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I'M ONLY CONCERNED WHETHER OR NOT ADDING ALL THESE OTHERS. AND WOULD BE THAT MUCH BENEFIT.

IT'S A CAR DEALERSHIP, I BELIEVE . IS IT RIGHT NOW? ONLY USE, UH, A NEW CAR SALES ONLY NOW, SO IF WE COULD ADD USED CAR TO THIS WITHOUT A BIG ISSUE. BECAUSE THOSE TWO JUST KIND OF GO TOGETHER. UM, BUT I DON'T. I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER. HODGEPODGE OF OTHER THINGS. I DON'T SEE WHERE A BOAT SAILS WOULD WOULD COME TO BEAR OR MOTORCYCLE SALES SINCE YOU'VE GOT A HARLEY DAVIDSON DEALERSHIP A MILE AND A HALF AWAY. SO I. I DON'T KNOW. UH MAYBE THERE'LL BE A DISRUPTOR THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, COMPETES WITH HARLEY PROBABLY UNDERSTAND. OK, UM THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. IT ABSOLUTELY IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OREN AND COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UH MR FISHER. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF THERE IS SOME OTHER USE OTHER THAN NEW AND USED CAR SALES, YOU'LL BE BACK. I HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PROCESS AND YOU COULD ALL COULD PUT IT DOWN, RIGHT. UP SO THEY CAN HAVE A BIGGER FACILITY OR WHATEVER YOU'D BE BACK. FOR THE S U P. AND FOR PROBABLY A 50 FT SIGN, AND REALLY IT MAYBE SOMETHING COOL THAT THE CITY MAY WANT TO ENTERTAIN. MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING YOU NEVER KNOW. OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING BAD AND YOU CAN DENY IT. SO THIS IS SO THIS IS PRIMARILY ABOUT JUST INCREASING THE MARKETABILITY OF THE PROPERTY AND WHATNOT. RIGHT OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ABLE UH, TO MR DALTON'S POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S MOTION CYCLE SPORTS DOWN AT PLANO ROAD. UM THIS COULD BE UM. IT COULD BE ANOTHER RB TYPE DEALER. IT COULD BE AN A T V DEALER. UM JUST LOOKING AT THE SIDE. I'M FOR THIS. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT

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EXPANDS THE USE CONSIDERABLY FOR THE OWNER. NO OTHER COMMENTS. I KINDA HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE OF THE RVS, THOUGH. UH ANYTHING UNDER THAT I'D BE FINE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE S U P PROCESS TO DO THAT. THE SITE IS SHAPED LIKE A BOAT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. IT IS SHAPED LIKE A BOAT.

BUT IT'S A THIS IS A TECHNICAL PLANNING TERM, BUT IT'S A CRAP ALL THE SITE. YEAH. UH, ACCESS IS POOR. IT IS SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL, SO WHATEVER GOES THERE WON'T HAVE AN EFFECT LIKE OUR LAST CASE DID SO OTHER THAN RVS, UH, I CAN GO WITH IT. COMMISSIONER ROBIN. THANKS MR CHAIR WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING INTO APPROVE THIS REQUEST. GOOD POINT. I HADN'N'T ECKED. THE SPEAKERS. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY OR INTUITION TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD VICE CHAIRMAN THERE. ALRIGHTY. BUT WITH THAT OUT THAT WE HAVE THE MOTION THAT MOTION. THANK YOU.

OKAY AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALVIN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABLE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED CORRECT. WITH THE EXCUSE ME. WITH THE MEAN DID YOU? GO AHEAD. WITH THE STIPULATION AND IF IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION OR NOT THAT MR FISHER MADE REGARDING ONE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY COVERING THE ENTIRE FACILITY, I WAS GONNA HAVE A QUESTION OF LEGAL IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE CONDITION? CAN WE DO THAT? LIMITING THEM TO ONE CERTIFICATE. ACKMAN C FOR WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE'RE DOING IT BY SIZE SQUARE FOOT SIZE OR NOT. WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT. WE CAN MEET IT CAN MEET WITH WILL AGREE WITH THAT. OTHERWISE WE COULD HAVE 37 LITTLE SINGLE BAY AIR SHOPS. SO THAT IS A GOOD ADDITION TO THE MOTION DOES THE SECOND CONCUR WITH THE ADDITION TO THE MOTION. IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH JUST SAYING ONE CEO, WE'VE DONE THIS MANY TIMES WHERE YOU SAY THAT ANY BUSINESS HAD TO BE A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND NOW WE'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES, AND YOU CAN JUST MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE BUILDING SIZE 58,000 SQUARE FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY OKAY. WELL, I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE MOTION IS THERE AND STAFF CAN WORK IT OUT. WE'RE JUST MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. ALRIGHTY. UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE? WHERE IT'S GOING TO THE MOTION IS TO PROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. BUT TO PUT A PROVISION IN THAT LIMITS. THE CEO TO EITHER MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR ONE CEO ON THE PROPERTY, SO THERE ARE NOT MULTIPLE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS. AND THE EXACT WORDING WILL BE WORKED OUT FOR CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE I DON'T MAKE LAW HERE. YEAH. IS THAT GOOD? THANK YOU. YES, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. MR CHAIR. THE POINT ABOUT DISCUSSIONS SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS CONSIDERATION OF LIMITING THE USE REGARDING THE RV SALES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WERE THAT WERE THE MOTION DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GOINGNG TO DISCUSS I. UH COMMISSIONER ROBIN, OF COURSE, HAPPY TO DISCUSS MY MOTION CONTEMPLATES SOME PROVING THAT NOT APPROVING RV SALES BUT APPROVING THAT THEY COULD COME FOR AN S U P IF THEY WANT TO DO RV CELL SO THE APPROVAL WOULD BE . THE APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS PRESENTED WOULD BE TO ADD USED CAR SALES TO THE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, YOU NEW AND USED CAR SALES, WHICH ALIGNS IT WITH WHAT THE G D C CURRENTLY HAS. AND THEN FOR ANY OF THESE OTHER. VEHICULAR USES. I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WORD FOR THAT. UM THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED BY S U P SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S RV IF IT'S BOAT IF IT'S ANY OTHER KIND OF WATERCRAFT, A TV WHATEVER WE'RE ALL JUST COME BACK, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW. IF YOU WOULD CALL IT TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED BUT TRANSPORTATION, WATER SPORTS ORIENTED. THANK YOU, MR. SO OUT OF ALL THAT THE MOTION REMAINS THE SAME CORRECT. OKAY? JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. WE HAVE EMOTION, AND SECOND DOESN'T NEED RESTATING. NO, OKAY. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 8 TO 0. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON

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MARCH 11TH. UNTIL THAT TIME WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.