[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING, IN WHICH WE GET A BRIEFING FROM STAFF. AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THIS WORK SESSION PORTION, WE WILL GO INTO RECESS AND COME BACK AT 7:00 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING. ALRIGHTY GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, I'LL OPEN WITH IF WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. SIR. CAN YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH WHAT A WHAT? THE FINAL PLANNING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? SO IF WE HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT HAS COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE SUBMITTED, PLANS OR REQUESTS FOR, ZONING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW HOW DO WE SEE THAT SAME APPLICATION AGAIN AT A LATER DATE THROUGH THE FINAL PLAT PROCESS, SO JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION WAS JUST WHERE WAS THE PLANNING PROCESS WITHIN THE ZONING PROCESS? YES, SO THE PLANNING PROCESS WILL START AFTER A ZONING IS APPROVED. IF IT REQUIRES A ZONING CASE, SO IN THE CASE OF IF A, IF THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDS, AS, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL OR DENIAL, IT GOES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT'S APPROVED, NEXT THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPTION TO EITHER DO THE WORKING PLAT ROUTE, OR JUST DIRECTLY SUBMIT IT TO US AND IT'LL HAVE TO GO WITHIN 30 DAYS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE, GENERALLY, MOST PEOPLE CHOOSE THE WORKING PLAT ROUTE STILL, AS THAT WAS THE DEFAULT, IN THE PAST. AND IT MAKES SURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CLEAR UP ANY ERRORS, TO MEET THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS IN ORDER TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE. BUT THAT IS THE STAGE THAT, KIND OF IN, IN WHICH IT HAPPENS. OKAY. THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THE, FIRST AND ONLY CASE TONIGHT IS A Z 2350, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A TRUCK BUS SALES AND LEASING, RENTAL USE, AND AN EXISTING BUILDING. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 25022504 AND 2550 MCCREE ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS THE U-HAUL COMPANY OF EAST DALLAS, AND IT IS A 3.29 ACRE SITE ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN. WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY OTHER, EITHER INDUSTRIAL STRAIGHT ZONE DISTRICTS OR INDUSTRIAL WITH AN SP OR A PD ATTACHED TO IT. THESE USES INCLUDE THINGS LIKE WAREHOUSES, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, AND OTHER, BASIC INDUSTRIAL USES, AS WELL AS A PD 30 1331 TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS, MORE OF A GAS STATION, USE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA FOR BUSINESS USE. BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENT, THAT CUMULATIVELY AND CUMULATIVELY EMPLOY LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, MEANWHILE, THE PROPOSAL FALLS WITHIN THE SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE CATALYST AREA THAT ENVISIONS REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS AREA.
THE PROPOSED SITE DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS ELEVATE VISUAL ESTHETICS TO ENHANCE AN IMPORTANT GATEWAY INTO OUR COMMUNITY. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN HIGHLIGHTS INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, ROLE OF THE SMALLER BUILDING AND AVAILABILITY OF SPACE FOR EXPANSION FOR THE FUTURE GOALS OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. IN ADDITION, IT RECOMMENDS BEAUTIFYING THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE PLAN NOTES THE AMOUNT OF AUTO RELATED USES IN GARLAND AS WELL. HOWEVER, THIS PROJECT PROVIDES UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING SITE, MODERNIZES ONE OF THE SMALLER BUILDINGS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, AND STILL ALLOWS SPACE FOR FUTURE EXPANSION WITHIN THE SITE AND AREA. HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE, FIRST WOULD BE THE VIEW OF THE EXISTING BUILDING LOOKING WEST FROM SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE, AND THE SECOND BEING LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BUILDING. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS LOOKING NORTH AND SOUTH, DOWN SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE. AND FINALLY, TWO MORE PHOTOS SHOWING THE EXISTING SITUATION ON THE SITE, THIS TIME, LOOKING SOUTH, TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN LOOKING TOWARD THE CORNER, INTERSECTION OF MCCREE AND SOUTH GARLAND, THAT CORNER RIGHT
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THERE, CURRENTLY SHOWING CONCRETE AND AN EXISTING KIND OF ELEVATED PLATFORM TO DISPLAY TRUCKS. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, HIGHLIGHTED IS THE BUILDING AND THEN, HERE'S THE CORNER THAT WAS JUST, SHOWN IN THE PHOTOS, THAT WILL NOW BECOME LANDSCAPING, AS WILL THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE, ALONG MCCREE AND THE SOUTH SIDE ALONG SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE, IT IS PROVIDED ALL THE WAY TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE PROPERTY HERE, AND ON THE SOUTH, IT WAS UNTIL THE DRIVE AISLE HAD TO BE WIDE ENOUGH FOR ACCESS, ALSO SHOWN ARE THE, TRUCK DISPLAY, SPOTS HERE ALONG SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, FACING MCCREE ROAD, THESE SPOTS WILL BE THE ONLY ONES FOR TRUCK DISPLAY ALONG THE ROADS, ALSO SHOWN ARE EXISTING, PARKING LOTS OR PARKING SPOTS FOR, CUSTOMERS AND THEN EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKING ALIKE. HERE ARE THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS. AND HERE ARE THE OTHER PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS, WITH THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BEING THE WEST ELEVATION ON. NOW, HERE ARE THE RENDERINGS OF THE SITE, THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING HERE. WE'RE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCCREE AND, SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONCRETE WAS FILLED IN AND ESPECIALLY THE GIGANTIC CONCRETE RAMP WAS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH SOME NICE SHRUBS, THANKS TO THE APPLICANT, THIS CONTINUES HERE ALONG SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE. AND THEN, HERE'S THE UPDATED BUILDING WITH THE SIGNAGE, ALSO NOTED IS THAT THE REPAIR BAYS WERE ALL REMOVED HERE, WHICH CURRENTLY THERE ARE ABOUT SIX RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE. HERE IS THE OTHER RENDERING, THIS IS LOOKING, SOUTH SOUTHEAST FROM, MCCREE ROAD. SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'D ENTER RIGHT NOW. FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE ATTACHED SIGNAGE ON THE NORTH FACING ELEVATION IS ALLOWED 51FT■S PER THE GDC. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 100FT■S OF SIGNAGE, THE APPLICANT, ALSO PROPOSED ATTACHED SIGNAGE ON THE EAST, 100FT■S IS ALLOWED PER THE GDC, AND 200FT■S OF SIGNAGE IS REQUESTED, FOR THE SOUTH FACING ELEVATION, 51FT■S OF SIGNAGE IS ALLOTTED AND 125FT■S IS REQUESTED. AND FINALLY, ON THE WEST FACING ELEVATION, 200FT■S, IS ALLOWED PER THE GDC AND 175FT■S OF SIGNAGE. IS REQUESTE, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GDC. THREE OF THE SIDES. THEY ARE REQUESTING MORE SIGNAGE AS PART OF THEIR TRADE OFFS, FOR SOME OF THIS, NEXT, THE APPLICANT, AT RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, PROPOSES TO PROHIBIT THE FOLLOWING LAND USES FOR THIS PROPERTY. HIGH RISK USE. HEAVY MACHINERY SALES, RENTAL. STORAGE AND REPAIR. ANIMAL FEED PROCESSING AND STORAGE, COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATE IMPOUNDMENT. LOT RECYCLING, SALVAGE YARD AND LIMITED OUTSIDE STORAGE AND NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. USES. CONTRACTORS OFFICE STORAGE YARD, OUTSIDE STORAGE AND SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS. RETAIL STORES ALSO REQUESTED TO BE A PERMITTED USE, THOUGH THIS SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A BIT IS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS NO RETAIL STORE. PROPOSED ITSELF RIGHT NOW, FINALLY, AS SHOWN IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AS THIS WAS NOT REQUIRED PER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF ON A PROPOSAL THAT REPRESENTS A PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENT OF THE SITE OVER THE EXISTING CONDITION, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING AND THE REMOVAL OF REPAIR BAY DOORS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET. IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROHIBITED PROHIBITING CERTAIN USES ON THE SITE. AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT PER THE APPLICANT, THE NUMBER OF U-HAUL TRUCK DISPLAY SPACES ALONG SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AND MCCREE ROAD HAVE BEEN LIMITED PER THE SCP CONDITIONS. HOWEVER GIVEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S LOCATION AS A GATEWAY WITHIN THE CATALYST AREA, CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO A SHORTER SCP TIME PERIOD THAN THE REQUESTED 30 YEARS. A TIME PERIOD OF 10 TO 15 YEARS IS SUGGESTED, AND STAFF SENT OUT 47 NOTIFICATION LETTERS. WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER BACK, AND THAT ONE LETTER WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. I AM OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS AND I'LL ADD ONE QUICK THING. YEAH, THANKS, MATTHEW. AND, CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD REALLY TO THE PRESENTATION. JUST, TO KIND OF PACKAGE IT, OF COURSE, BECAME SORT OF A PD[00:10:05]
REQUEST TO HAVE TRADE OFFS. THE APPLICANT, AS YOU NOTICED, HAS ASKED FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY ON SIGNAGE, BUT THE TRADE OFF, OF COURSE, BEING, THE STAFF HAD ASKED FOR SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS LANDSCAPING, THE USE LIMITATIONS, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF DISPLAY SPACES. AS MATTHEW NOTED. AND OF COURSE, AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE SCP TIME PERIOD, REALLY WITH A SHORTER SCP TIME PERIOD GIVES THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE THE USE AT A FUTURE TIME AS THE GREATER AREA BEGINS TO REDEVELOP . SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS TO SORT OF REEVALUATE THE USE, AT A TIME, MAYBE A BIT SHORTER THAN THE 30 YEAR REQUEST. SO, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. I'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS. SURE. GOT A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONER ORBAN, THEN.COMMISSIONER ROSE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IS THE, ARE THE PROPANE SALES GOING TO REMAIN UNDER THIS? THE TANK AND ALL THAT? DO YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE, PART OF THE CURRENT BUSINESS OR THE RETAIL COMPONENT, BUT I'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
OKAY THE CURRENT WHEN YOU MENTIONED RETAIL STORE, THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S NOT THE USE OF REQUESTING. THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR RETAIL HERE. NO, SIR. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A RETAIL COMPONENT AS NOTED IN THE SITE PLAN HERE. BUT THAT'S MORE OF AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE TRUCK REPAIR OR SORRY, THE TRUCK LEASING AND, RENTAL USE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF, BUT THEY ARE REQUESTING, RETAIL USE TO BE AN ALLOWED USE HERE, BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PROPOSAL AT THE TIME. OKAY. FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WHAT IN THAT REGARD, EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE WAS A NOTATION OF FUTURE USES AND OTHER STUFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN SHARE WITH US ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT OR WHERE THAT WOULD BE, FOR, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT JUST BEING AVAILABLE ON THE SITE, THERE'S NO CURRENT KIND OF PLANS OR INFORMATION THAT STAFF IS AWARE OF. IT'S JUST THAT, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE PROPOSED OUTSIDE OF REMODELING THE EXISTING BUILDING. OKAY. AND I NOTICED THAT IN ONE OF THE DRAWINGS, IT THERE DID APPEAR TO STILL BE A GARAGE BAY. YES. LOOKS LIKE THEY KEPT ONE REPAIR BAY, THOUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT FACING TOWARDS EITHER STREET, IT WOULD BE. SO THIS IS THE STORAGE. IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THIS SIDE, RIGHT WHERE MY MOUSE IS. SO IT'D BE FACING THIS WAY. OKAY. SO WILL AND THE REPAIR BAYS RIGHT HERE, THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW ARE BEING REMOVED. THE ONES THAT ARE FACING SOUTH GARLAND, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THIS REPAIR BAY FROM, THE STREET, BUT IT IT'S, YOU CAN TALK TO THE APPLICANT IF THIS WILL BE EVEN BE FUNCTIONAL. YEAH, I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WHETHER WHETHER THE WHETHER TRUCK REPAIR IS GOING TO BE OR REPAIR OF SOME SORT IS GOING TO BE AN ALLOWED USE. NO, SIR. THERE WILL NOT BE TRUCK REPAIR. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER ROSE, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, A LIMITATION ON THE SUP, YES, SIR. WE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT USES, TO LIMIT. BUT THAT WAS THE PD. OKAY AND AS FOR THE SUP, JUST THE TIME PERIOD. YEAH, RIGHT. YES, SIR. AND HE'S REACTED, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. HE DOES INTEND TO ASK FOR A SHORTER OR. EXCUSE ME, THAT 30 YEARS IS HIS REQUEST OF THE 30 YEARS. HIS REQUEST. BUT, MR. MERRILL IS HERE TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT. YES, SIR, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH IS GOING TO START IN ABOUT 15 SECONDS. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST GO
[Call to Order]
WELCOME BACK TO THE MAY 13TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. IS THIS OUR CUSTOM? WE COMMISSIONER START A MEETING WITH THE PRIOR PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY AFFECT THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAD THE PRAYER TONIGHT IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME. YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET LIKE THIS AND DO THE CITY'S BUSINESS. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS FOR THE CITY. AND WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER ALL THAT LOOK OVER US. MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. POLICE OFFICERS, FIREMEN, EVERYBODY AND[00:15:07]
A SPECIAL NOTE THE DAY AFTER MOTHER'S DAY JUST PLEASE BLESS ALL THE MOTHERS EVERYWHERE.THERE ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ALL OF SOCIETY AS A WHOLE. IN YOUR NAME. WE PRAY. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH THE RUBBER JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME BACK. ALL RIGHT. UH SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, UM LITTLE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS OUTSIDE. IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT AND HAND IT TO THE PLAN, COMMISSION SECRETARY AND OR YOU HAPPEN TO MISS IT? WE'LL LET YOU TO FILL ONE OUT LATER.
APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. UH, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SUCH LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, LET US KNOW AND YOU'LL DEFINITELY GET SOME MORE TIME AND WE DO ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE DO NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. RIGHT WE WILL START
[CONSENT AGENDA]
TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE. IN ONE VOTE. I WILL READ OUT ALL THE ITEMS AND IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR COMMISSION WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHTY. ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 22ND 2024 MEETING. ITEM TWO A PLOT. 24-11 URBINA CENTERVILLE EDITION FINAL PLAN.PLAY TO BE 24-12 URBAN VILLAGE AT ROSE HILL, FINAL PLAT AND PLAT TWO C. UH, ITEM TWO C PLANT . 24-14 FAULKNER POINT NUMBER SEVEN FIRST THREE PLATT FINAL PLAT. THOSE A RE THE CONCERN AGENDA ITEMS, ANYBODY WANTING AN ITEM REMOVED. CNN COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER PARIS. A MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CARCINOGEN AS WRITTEN. SECOND UM, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ABEL HAD CHIMED IN FOR THE SECOND. SEE NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. HERE WE GO.
YOU KNOW IT'S NOT POPPING UP YET. BUT IT'S NOT SHOWN COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS IS ABSENT, AND THAT MAY BE THE ISSUE. OKAY, THAT PASSES 6 TO 1, WITH ONE ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ALL RIGHT. ARE ONE AND ONLY ZONING ITEM TONIGHT. ITEM THREE. A
[3.a.Consideration of the application of U-Haul Company of East Dallas, requesting approval of 1) a Change in Zoning from Industrial (IN) District to a Planned Development (PD) District; 2) a Specific Use Provision for a Truck/Bus Sales & Leasing/Rental Use and 3) a Detail Plan for a Truck/Bus Sales & Leasing/Rental Use. This property is located at 2502, 2504 and 2550 McCree Road. (District 5)]
CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF U HAUL COMPANY OF EAST DALLAS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. AND A SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR A TRUCK BUS SALES AND LEASING SLASHENTAL USE AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS SALES AND LEASING RENTAL USE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 25022504 AND 2550 MCCREE BOULEVARD IS THE APPLICANT HERE. KA ADDRESS ANYTHING.AND A GOOD NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. UH MY NAME'S MATT MERRILL WITH U HAUL COMPANY.
IT'S 25 02 MCCREE ROAD IN GARLAND. UM JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, FROM THE PRESENTATION EARLIER JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. UH, THIS PROJECT GOES BACK A FEW YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY WE'VE DEVELOPED. LET'S SAY THAT WOULD BE TO THE U WEST, A NEW TRUCK REPAIR FACILITY THAT WAS STAGE ONE TRYING TO REMOVE THE REPAIR OPERATIONS FROM THE CORNER THERE TO THE NEWER FACILITY THAT'S LARGER. UM WEST OF THE PROPERTY THAT FORD OWNS THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING OUR REPAIR. UM THEN WE BUILT THE PHASE TWO, WHICH WAS THE FOUR STORY STORAGE, UM, FACING LBJ. AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE CORNER. UM TRYING TO CLEAN UP THAT CORNER, AND THAT WAS PART OF OUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION.
WHEN WE DID THE REPAIR SHOP IF SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THAT? THAT WAS IN THE COVID DAYS, SO I FIRST TIME IN THIS ONE? WE DID A LOT OF THAT OVER ZOOM. UM, SO THE UH, PLAN WAS ALWAYS TO MAKE THAT INTO OUR CENTER CELL SHOWROOM AND RENTAL RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER. UM WE KIND OF GOT THROUGH THE PROCESS. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF BUILDING PERMITS TILL WE REALIZED THAT THE USE
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WAS NO LONGER ALLOWED THERE. UM WE'VE BEEN THERE NOW FOR 46 YEARS, SO WE DON'T INTEND ON GOING ANYWHERE. SO UH, THE DOORS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, DWARF FACING THAT'S THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE NO REPAIR THERE. THAT'S UM PART OF THE U HAUL OPERATION OF, UH, TRUCK AND TRAILER RENTALS AND PUTTING ON TRAILER HITCHES. SO THAT'S A HITCH BAY THERE ALL OF OUR REPAIR OPERATIONS MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE. UM I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.MATTHEW DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. LITTLE PARTIAL TO THE NAME THERE. I THINK ALL MATS DO PHENOMENAL JOBS THERE. UM THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD ADD AS UM WILL DISCUSSED IS LOOKING FOR A LONGER SUP PERIOD. AS YOU KNOW , WE WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 46 YEARS, AND THIS IS GONNA BE SOME SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THAT AT A AT A SHORT 10 TO 15 YEARS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO DOING THAT. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONER DALTON THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. I RECALL BACK WHEN ALL THIS BEGAN. BECAUSE OF THE LBJ WIDENING PROJECT WAS KIND OF MESSING WITH YOU GUYS QUITE A BIT AND WE GAVE YOU THE FIRST, UH, VARIANT THAT YOU ASKED FOR, UH, THE QUESTION GOT RAISED ABOUT PURCHASING. UH, PROPANE. WHETHER YOU'RE SELLING IT OR NOT, I NOT SURE THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, I THINK TRIED TO BUY WENT BY THERE AND THEY WEREN'T SELLING ANYMORE. IS THAT CORRECT THAT YOU STOPPED SELLING? THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO TELL ME THAT, BUT NO , WE'RE STILL SELLING THEM. WELL SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UH, MAYBE THERE WAS AT THE TIME THERE WAS NOT A PERSON ON SITE THAT WAS AUTHORIZED LICENSE TO DO THOSE TRANSACTIONS, AND THAT'S POSSIBLE VERY POSSIBLE. GETTING LICENSE THROUGH TEXAS RIGHT NOW IS VERY DIFFICULT. THAT A STATE HAVE A LOT OF SO YOU ARE. YOU'RE SELLING AGAIN.
OK, GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHTY COMMISSIONER ROSE I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION I WAS RAISING AND YOU DON'T WANT TO, UH, AGREE TO A 10 OR 15 YEAR, SUP. WHY IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT AND WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF WE SELLING THE PROPERTY OR NOT OPERATING THERE? SO YOU REALLY WANT A 30 YEAR OR WHAT? UH I MEAN THE FINANCING. IF WE FINANCE ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 20. IN IN ORDER FOR US TO GET FINANCING OVERALL AS THE COMPLEX OF THE PROPERTY. WOULD YOU AGREE TO TONY YEAR? HP, THEN? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD, BUT THAT'S A POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OREN AND COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE YOU'VE ASKED FOR A RETAIL USE PERMITTED, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU NEED RIGHT NOW. IS THAT THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE USES THAT DISCUSSING WITH STAFF THAT WE WANTED AS A ALLOWED USE AS PART OF THE PD? UM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR TYPICAL U HAUL RETAIL INSIDE OF THERE, BUT DUE TO UH, I I'LL LET STAFF MY UNDER THE PERCEAGE OF WHICH WE'RE DOING IS RETAIL DOES NOT REQUIRE ME TO GET A RETAIL USE. I THINK I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY. SO SO WE WILL BE SELLING JUST LIKE ANY OTHER U HAUL SHOWROOM BOX TAPES HITCHES. BUT THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS COMPARED TO THE MAIN USE OF TRUCK AND TRAILER RENTAL. OK IS THERE A FUTURE PLAN TO INCREASE RETAIL HERE OR ADD ADDITIONAL RETAIL OR NO? I? I WE HAVE NO OTHER NO OTHER PLANS RIGHT NOW.
NO AND THE SITE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THIS. IT'S I THINK IT'S LISTED AS SEPARATE OWNERS. BUT DID YOU ALL ON THAT OR AN AFFILIATED? YOU ALL WEST? UH, WHERE THE REPAIR SHOP IS OR THE VACANT LAND THE VACANT LAND VACANT LANDS. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPANY ACTUALLY OWNS IT, BUT IT'S WHOEVER IS, UH, PLAYING IT FOR OH, OK, SO THE PROPERTY BETWEEN MCCREE AND OUR BUILDING, UM IS PART OF THE FORD DEALERSHIP, OK? UM. I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL. MY QUESTION, I GUESS PIGGYBACKS OFF OF MR HOBBINS. YOU'RE MOVING YOUR CURRENT RETAIL. CENTER THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS FACING 635. TO THIS BUILDING. CORRECT CORRECT. SO THE RETAIL THAT'S THERE WOULD JUST BE COMING OVER HERE. OK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. UM OK, COMMISSIONER, AIN I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SO YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS, BUT YOU'RE KEEPING THE EXISTING BUILDING BUT JUST REDOING IT. OK ■AND I RECALL BECAUSE I WAS ON TH COUNCIL AT THE TIME THAT THE
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PRIOR APPROVAL WAS DONE. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BUILDING . UM I RECOGNIZE YOU. OK? SO WE'RE WE'RE ESSENTIALLY UH, THEY'LL BE STICKS OF THE BUILDING LEFT IN A IN A WAY IN WHICH IT'S GOING TO BE RECONSTRUCTED, SO IT'S A PREMANUFACTURED BUILDING. THAT'S THERE. SO REALLY EVERYTHING COMES OFF AND IT'S GONNA BE TOTALLY REBUILT. SO IT'S STILL CONSIDERED A REMODEL, BUT UM THE YOU THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE UNRECOGNIZABLE. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY LEFT OF THAT BUILDING THAT WILL REMAIN EXCEPT THE FRAMES. RIGHT? NO I. I REMEMBER WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT. HE TALKED ABOUT A VERY A BRAND NEW BUILDING, ALL MODERNIZED AND WHAT? NOT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE, UM THE IMAGING THERE, AND THERE WAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AS WELL AS OUR CITY COUNCIL. PERSON THAT THAT MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE REQUESTS. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR NO, THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS? YES. THANK YOU, MISTER. CHAIR. UH, I WANT TO, UM APPLAUD YOUR WILLINGNESS TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE REQUEST. IT SOUNDS LIKE CITY STAFF WAS, UH, REALLY HELPFUL FOR YOU IN GUIDING YOU IN THE PROCESS AND THAT YOU WERE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THEM AS WELL AND MODERNIZING THE SITE AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL AMENITIES TO MAKE THE SITE, UH, TO BEAUTIFY THE SITE AS IT WERE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. SOMETIMES WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND STUFF IS NOT ALWAYS EASY. BUT WORKING WITH THIS WORKING WITH THE STAFF HAS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW. I WOULDN'T SAY A CHALLENGE. IT'S E EQUALLY WORKING WITH BOTH OF US AND COMINGP WITH WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE BOTH THIS WORK, SO IT WAS VERY NICE TO WORK WITH MATTHEW AND WILL A THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND STUFF. SO IT WAS ABSOLUTELY REALLY APPRECIATE IT. HERE YOU GO. OK? YOU KNOW, JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. I'D LIKE TO COMMEND STAFF FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY'VE MADE ON USES AND THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE IT REALLY IS HELPING THIS PROJECT. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THE PROPANE. UH, IT'S THE PROPANE JUST THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE TANKS OR ARE YOU INTO REFILLING TANKS SUCH AS AN RVS AND STUFF? WE CAN REFILL ANYTHING THERE. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE 3000 GALLON TANK ON SITE.THAT'S IN CASE WE'RE A ABLE TO REFILL MOTOR. WE'RE CERTIFIED FOR MOTOR FUEL PERSONAL FUEL.
OKAY? YEAH UH, ROOFINGS, UH, A BIG CUSTOMER THAT COMES THROUGH THERE. AND I'M ASSUMING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT, DURING PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING. YEAH IT IT'S ALL CURRENTLY PERMITTED AND EVERYTHING TODAY AND THAT'S ALL MANAGED THROUGH THE RAILROAD COMMISSION. AND THEN, UH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. MR GARIN HERE. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT WE RAN OUT OF TIME EARLIER. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO TROUBLE. THE SIGN. DIFFERENCES HERE. A RE BASED ON THE PD. AND NOT THE GDC. SO WE'RE NOT INTO VARIANCE TERRITORY THEN, ARE WE? THAT IS CORRECT. AS SOON AS WE KIND OF REALLY GOT INTO A CONVERSATION WITH MR MERRILL ABOUT TRADEOFFS, AND, UM, HIM WANTING, YOU KNOW, MORE MORE SIGNAGE. THAT'S WHERE WE, THE APPLICATION BECAME A PD. UM, IN ADDITION, OF COURSE, TO JUST TO THE SCP REQUEST, SO THAT'S CORRECT. THESE WOULD BE, UM, CONDITIONS AND TRADE OFFS IF YOU WILL, THROUGH THE PD, NOT TRADITIONAL VARIANCES THAT IS WOULD BE LIMITED TO 10 OR 25. I FORGET WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS.
TO THE LIMIT. JUST ONE. IT WASN'T A PROBLEM DOWN THE GREAT QUESTION, AND THAT THE SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR CAN LIT SIGNS THAT KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE DOCUMENT THERE, BUT IT IS WE. WE'RE AWARE OF THAT SO IT. ALL RIGHT. OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEE NON COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ROBIN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM. COMMISSIONERS I'M I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO INCLUDE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SPECIFICALLY INCLUDES UH OR THE RECOMMENDATION TO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE IN THE PD, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING. PARKING AND WHATNOT. UM BUT ALSO TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S POSSIBLE. UM RATHER THAN UH HUH. LISTING WHAT IN TERMS OF PERMITTED USES IN TERMS OF LISTING, UH RATHER THAN LISTING UH, WHAT'S EXCLUDED? I'D RATHER LIST VERY SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS INCLUDED. AND WHAT I'M REFERRING TO THERE IS, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT, UH, ANY SURPRISES ABOUT WHAT GETS BUILT HERE. UH AND SO IN THAT REGARD, I'D I'D ASK. ARE WE NOT INCLUDE THE RETAIL USE OF FOR NOW. WE JUST INCLUDE JUST THE MINIMUM AND THE THAT NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS EXPRESSLY
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PERMITTED BY THE UM UH, BY THE PD BE ALLOWED THERE WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COUNCIL. UH THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU KNOW , IN THE PRIOR APPROVAL PROCESS, UM YOU KNOW, THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT THIS COMMISSION ASKED ABOUT. WHEN I SAY PRIOR APPROVAL. I'M SORRY. LET ME BE CLEAR WHEN YOU ALL CAME TO US ABOUT APPROVING THE TRUCK REPAIR FACILITY, AND THEY, UH, BISECTED THE PROPERTY THERE INTO TWO PARCELS. UM THERE WERE QUESTIONS FROM FROM THIS BODY AND THEN FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WAS AWARE THAT THAT UH, FOUR STORY STORAGE COULD BE BUILT AS OF RIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT FOLKS ARE VERY FORTHCOMING WITH US ABOUT THE PLANS TO BUILD THAT. UH AND SO, FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD LIKE TO, SPECIFICALLY AND STRICTLY RESTRICT THIS TO WHAT WE SEE HERE. UH, AND I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRAFT THAT IN PRETTY TIGHTLY. YEAH, WE COULD. WE COULD WORK WITH WILL ON DRAFTING THAT. UH, MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, THOUGH. IF YOU'RE, UH, MOVING TO APPROVE IT. WHAT WAS WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME FRAME ON THE SUP THAT YOU'RE WE'LL GET INTO THAT PART TOO. UH, AND WITH A, UH BUT WITH AN SUP OF 20 YEARS OR OK MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALEN IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE PROVISION THAT INSTEAD OF CITING EXCLUSIONS, C INCLUSIONS, SO WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL, THEY CAN SEE WHAT CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE AND FOR A 20 YEAR PERIOD. AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES ALL THE LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S THE MOTION AND THE SECOND UNDERSTAND, OK? ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE. WELL. AND PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE[Additional Item]
LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, EXCEPT WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO TAKE CARE OF TONIGHT. THIS IS MR GIN'S LAST MEETING WITH THIS AND HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR NINE YEARS. AND I. I KNO I APPRECIATE AND I KNOW ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS APPRECIATE THE WORK HE'S DONE. AND WE WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK IN HIS NEW VENTURE. AND AS I NORMALLY DO, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WILL WITH YOUR WITH YOUR PLAQUE THERE. AND, UH, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND HIS AND HIS SPOCK WOULD SAY LIVE LONG AND PROSPER. AIGHTY. UH, HAVING SAID THAT OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON MAY 21ST UNTIL THEN, WE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.