[Plan Commission Pre Meeting]
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WELCOME TO THE JUNE 10TH MEETING OF THE GOLAND PLAN COMMISSION.
THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION WHERE WE GET BRIEFED BY STAFF.
AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND RECONVENE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
YEAH, I'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, ASK IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? NOPE.
OUR, UH, FIRST CASE TONIGHT IS, UH, Z 2228.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO CONSTRUCT A GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORE, LAUNDROMAT, AND RETAIL STORE.
THE SITE IS, UH, LOCATED AT 1270 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.
IT IS A 3.34 ACRE SITE ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT IS, UH, CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY BOTH SF SEVEN AND CR ZONING, UH, AS WELL.
UM, AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING.
YOU'LL FIND, UM, SIMPLE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL STORES, UM, WHERE NEARLY ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN ZONE LAND DOES CONTAIN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A LARGELY CLEAR, UH, VACANT LOT.
AND HERE ARE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS, UH, FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA SLATED FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.
COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
UH, IT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS AND ALSO CONTAINS, UH, LIMITED, UH, RETAIL.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE IS A, UH, SUPPORTIVE USE TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, IT DOES CONTAIN TWO STRUCTURES, AND THEN A CANOPY WITH 12 FUEL PUMPS RIGHT HERE.
UM, THE COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING 9,982 SQUARE FEET, UM, FOR PARKING, THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, 75 SPOTS WHEN 70 IS REQUIRED.
SO THAT DOES MEET GDC STANDARDS.
UH, SCREENING DOES MEET, UM, WHAT IS REQUIRED, UM, AS HERE IS THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH, UM, AND A, UH, ORNAMENT OR, AND, UH, MASONRY FENCE IS PROVIDED.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UH, UM, OTHER LANDSCAPING AND FENCING WHERE IT'S NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS IS A ALSO COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONE.
HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING A.
HERE ARE ADDITIONAL ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING A.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING B AND ADDITIONAL ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING B.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SUP TO BE VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS.
UH, THAT IS FOR THE FUEL PUMPS.
THE ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN STATES, UM, THAT THIS AREA WOULD BE CONSIDERED A RETAIL STRIP PER, UH, THE PLAN.
THIS CATEGORY REPRESENTS A PROPERTY TAX VALUE, UH, PER ACRE AT $8,439.
IN ADDITION, THEIR PROPOSAL BRINGS NEW EMPLOYMENT AND SALES TAX TO GARLAND.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL USE, AND A PLAN FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL STORE USE, CONVENIENCE STORE LAUNDROMAT, UH, SELF-SERVICE, LAUNDROMAT AND RETAIL USES ON A PROPERTY ZONED, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
WE SENT OUT A 119 NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
UH, WE RECEIVED FOUR AND, UH, FOUR WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST.
I AM, UH, OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, SO HANG WITH ME.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'LL WANNA HEAR.
EXHIBIT B, PAGE TWO, SECTION FOUR, ALL REGULATIONS OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING, CR OR INDUSTRIAL? UH, KIM, IT'S A CR, UH, IN THE, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE ORDINANCE, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE PACKET.
UH, IT IS SAYING, LET ME SEE HERE.
GENERAL REGULATIONS ARE ALL REGULATIONS OF THE IN DISTRICT.
LET'S SET FORTH IN CHAPTER TWO.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO TIGHTEN THAT UP.
THAT'LL BE FIXED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
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SO, UH, IS, IS THERE ANY ROAD EXPANSION PLAN FOR THIS AREA IN THE FUTURE? A NUMBER OF THE, UH, COMMENTS, UH, WERE, UH, COM COMPLAINING OF THE TRAFFIC.AND SO WHERE IS THE CITY IN THAT PROCESS? DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE, UM, AS FOR THE EXPANSION OF, UH, PLEASANT VALLEY? YEAH.
UM, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY, UM, CURRENTLY PLANNED, UM, OR SCHEDULED, UM, EXPANSION OF PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, PUBLICLY FUNDED TRANSPORTATION STOPS IN THAT AREA? DART STOPS OR LIGHT RAIL STATIONS NEARBY? UM, AS FOR LIGHT RAIL, NO.
AND AS FOR BUS, UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE WITHIN THE AREA.
UM, WHY WAS THE APPLICANT, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A REASON? THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO WHY 15 YEARS WAS THEIR REQUEST AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING LONGER? UM, YEAH, I CAN, UH, I, I THINK THAT'D BE A QUESTION, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, THIS NEXT QUESTION IS ACTUALLY FOR THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEYS.
UM, I, I AM AWARE UNDER, I THINK IT'S GDC 2.2, ONE B NINE, AND 11, THAT WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY.
UH, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A RECOMMENDATION COULD BE MADE THAT NO DRUG PARAPHERNALIA SALES OR ANY COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT MACHINE SHOULD BE, UH, GRANTED IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE OR, OR MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST? I'M SORRY, INTERRUPT.
UH, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA OR CUR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, UH, UH, ITEMS, UH, MACHINES, EIGHT LINERS, UH, SLOT MACHINES, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS APPLICANT'S ATTEMPTING TO BRING FORTH A HIGH QUALITY, UM, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND WE'D LIKE, OF COURSE, THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT, UH, THEIR, THEIR ATTEMPT TO DO SO.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO RESTATE THE LAW IN OUR ORDINANCE.
THOSE THINGS ARE BOTH ILLEGAL, SO I THINK THE FACT YOU CAN'T DO THEM UNDER STATE LAW COVERS IT.
UM, AND THEN LAST QUESTION AGAIN FOR YOU, SIR, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, UM, SOME WRITTEN RESPONSES NOW THAT ARE ON FILE, UH, 2.05.
I WOULD BE WHAT COUNSEL HAS TO CONSIDER, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS SOMETHING ABOUT A SUPER MAJORITY.
UH, I THINK THAT'S HAS TO, UH, THE NUMBERS IT, I THINK IT'S AN AREA THING THAT, UH, TRIGGERS IT.
IT'S OVER 50% OF THE AREA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK THE RESPONSES ARE PROBABLY NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO TRIGGER THE SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.
THAT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING.
I'M NOT CERTAIN 20% OF THE AREA.
I'M GETTING SOME HELP IN THE AUDIENCE HERE.
THE LAYOUT WAS A LITTLE AWKWARD WITH THE RETAIL KIND OF BEING BEHIND THE GAS STATION, AND I NOTICED THAT THE DETENTION POND IS TOWARDS THE FRONT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR ENGINEERS ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SWITCH THAT, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK BETTER FOR 'EM TO HAVE BETTER VISIBILITY OF THE RETAIL, BUT I'LL LET THEM ADDRESS THAT
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? THAT'S IT FOR THIS ONE.
THE SECOND CASE TONIGHT IS, UH, Z 2267.
THE APPLICANT, UH, REQUESTS TO CONSTRUCT 90 TOWNHOUSE LOTS AND THREE HOA OPEN SPACE LOTS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2000 AND 2050 EAST MILLER ROAD.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1411 FOR SINGLE FAMILY, 10 USES AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISTRICT 85 24 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.
HERE'S THE SITE'S LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY, AND HERE'S THE SITE'S LOCATION WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
UM, IT IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MILLER AND CENTERVILLE'S INTERSECTION.
UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF IT IS A PD 1411 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, 10 USES.
AND THEN THE REST, UM, THE ACTUAL HARD CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION IS ZONED PD 85 24 FOR THOSE COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.
UM, SURROUNDING IT IS A MIX OF, UH, BOTH, UH, LIGHTER COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL AND, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT SINGLE FAMILY, 10 NEIGHBORHOOD BEING DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTHWEST.
AND THEN THE, UH, REST OF THAT PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS ZONED 1411 AS CURRENTLY HOMED TO ONE HOME, UM, WITH, UH, UH, HORSES ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL PDS, UH, CONTAIN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.HERE ARE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY OR FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THIS CASE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA SLATED FOR BOTH TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.
UM, GENERALLY FOLLOWING THE, UH, PDS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL USES ON THE LOCAL MAP.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, HAS THIS AREA SLATED FOR, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CURRENTLY FOUND THROUGHOUT ALL OF GARLAND AND, UH, CONTAIN, UH, LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
UM, AS PER NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THEY DO PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES.
UH, THE CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL OFFER ADDITIONAL HOUSING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, AGAIN, 90 TOWN HOMES, THREE HOA LOTS, UM, A TENNIS COURT, PICKLEBALL COURT, UH, GAZEBO PLAYGROUND, AND A BARBECUE PICNIC AREA SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, WITH AMENITIES FOCUSING, UH, HERE AND HERE MAINLY.
UM, AS FOR THE REST OF THE SITE, THERE IS A, UH, TRAIL, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED THAT RUNS ALL AROUND IT.
SO IT'LL MAINLY FOLLOW MY CURSOR ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE WITH AN ENTRANCE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THERE IS A SCREENING, UM, ALONG, UH, CENTERVILLE AND MILLER.
AND THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THESE, UH, LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE FOLLOWING.
HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, AND HERE ARE ADDITIONAL BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THEY, UH, DO MEET THE, UH, GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARDS, AND HERE'S A 3D RENDERING, UH, BETTER PROVIDING, UM, A VISUAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, THE FIRST BEING, UH, THE GDC CURRENTLY REQUIRES A LOT SIZE OF 2000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF, UH, 1500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, NOW AS ON THE SITE PLAN, PER THE DETAIL PLAN, UM, ONLY NINE LOTS WOULD BE, UH, FOLLOWING OR GOING UNDER 2000 AND MOST BEING ABOVE 1500.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE, UH, SITE PLAN ON THE DETAIL PLAN WOULD LOCK THAT IN SO THEY CANNOT JUST START CHANGING, UH, LOTS TO BE THAT SIZE.
UM, FOR THE LOT DEPTH, UH, 90 FEET IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED.
THEY'RE PROPOSING 65 FEET, UM, 27 LOTS ACTUALLY DO NEED THIS.
UM, AND AGAIN, UH, THE DETAIL PLAN WILL LOCK IN, WHICH LOTS, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS.
UH, WE DO REQUIRE 75%, UH, IMPERVIOUS, UH, LOT COVERAGE TO BE THE MAXIMUM.
UM, SO JUST OVER THE GDC STANDARD.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, DWELLING UNIT SIZE, THEY'RE REQUIRING 13, OR WE REQUIRE 1300 SQUARE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 1100 SQUARE FEET.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, CONSIDERS THIS TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
UH, THIS CATEGORY REPRESENTS A PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ACRE AT $6,446.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1411 FOR SINGLE FAMILY, 10 USES AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 85 24 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
WE SENT OUT, UH, 67 NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
WE RECEIVED FIVE, UH, TWO WITH, UH, WERE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST.
TWO WERE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST, AND ONE WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST.
I AM OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.
UM, PAGE THREE OF THREE OF THE PLANNING REPORT NOTES THAT THERE ARE SUP CONDITIONS UNDER THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A TYPO OR, UM, IT MUST BE, UM, SINCE THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, ALONE.
UM, UH, NEXT, UH, QUESTION FOR YOU.
DO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACROSS THE STREET? OH, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO THE NORTH? UM, I CANNOT 100% ANSWER THAT.
UM, I DO RECALL IT BEING IN A PERMIT PHASE, UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE
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IF IT WAS, UH, ISSUED YET OR NOT.WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE AN ENGINEERING PHASE OR, UM, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I'M, I DO NOT REMEMBER IF, UM, IF IT WAS ISSUED OR NOT.
UH, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR THE CHAIRMAN AND FOR, UH, CITY SECRETARY.
UH, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT EMAIL WAS INCLUDED WITH PUBLIC RECORD AND DIDN'T WANT TO ADDRESS IT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
SO THANK YOU FOR PRINTING IT OUT.
AND, AND, UH, MEMBERS, EACH OF YOU HAVE A COPY, UH, OF THAT, UH, AND THAT, UH, EXHIBIT B, PAGE TWO, SUBSECTION J.
WILL THIS BE AN HOA MANAGED PROPERTY? AND IF SO, WHO'S THE PROPERTY OWNER? DO WE KNOW? UM, WELL THIS, UH, YEAH, THERE WILL BE, UM, THREE HOA LOTS.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE ORDINANCE, WE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR LANDSCAPING REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN IT.
BUT IF IT'S AN HOA, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE THE HOA IT, IT'S JUST A LITTLE YES.
I THINK, I THINK THAT IS IT FOR ME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PARIS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THAT I, UH, DID NOT SEE ALL OF IT.
UM, BUT I, I HAD DID NOTE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I MIGHT HAVE, AND IF YOU'VE ANSWERED IT, IT, UM, THEN WE CAN MOVE PAST IT.
AND THIS IS FOR 22 DASH 67 CORRECT.
UM, DID, IS THERE A NEED OR FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT NEEDED A TIA BECAUSE OF, I LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHERE IT IS AND THE ENTRY POINT INTO, UM, THE, UH, INTO THE, INTO THE ESTATES WOULD REQUIRE ONE, IT'S ONLY ONE ENTRY POINT IN, IS THAT CORRECT? ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN? YEAH.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE TWO ENTRY.
UM, BUT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WOULD'VE CARRIED OUT A, UH, TIA AND IN, IN THE EMAIL THAT, UH, IS AT THE TOP OF OUR PACKET HERE, THEY DID A, A TRIP GENERATION ANALYSIS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS EMAIL CAME OVER WHILE I WAS WORK AT WORK, SO I HADN'T SEEN THE EMAIL, SO THANK YOU.
I JUST HAD, THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE PEN.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT.
I'LL GET CAUGHT UP FOR THE UPDATES THAT HAVE COME OVER.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER JENKINS? MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A COMMENT.
UH, THE CITY DID INSTALL A, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION AT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LIGHT, EXCUSE ME, ON CVILLE TODAY.
SO JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LIGHT, UM, NOT AT THE CORNER OF CVILLE AND MILLER, BUT MAYBE 150 FEET BEHIND THAT.
SO JUST, I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS CONSIDERED IT, SO THANK YOU.
I'VE GOT A, A COUPLE THINGS AND, UH, GOOD CATCHES ON THOSE ORDINANCE THINGS.
I SHOULD HAVE READ 'EM WORD FOR WORD.
UH, ONE THING I DID CATCH THOUGH IS IN THE REPORT IT SAYS THERE ARE 42 GUEST PARKING SPACES, BUT THERE ARE ONLY 25 SHOWN IN THE DETAIL PLAN.
AND I THINK THE 42 IS DEFINITELY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR 90 HOMES WHEN A LOT OF FOLKS WILL BE STORING STUFF IN THEIR GARAGES, PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAYS AND EVERYTHING.
UM, SO THAT WAS A, A TYPO ON THE REPORT, ON THE SITE PLAN.
UH, AND THE SITE DATED TABLE BOTH SHOW, UH, 25 GUEST PARKING PROVIDED.
UM, AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 23, UH, PER THE 90 TOWN HOMES.
YEAH, I, I THINK YOUR NUMBERS A WHOLE LOT BETTER 'CAUSE WE KNOW HALF THE HOUSES WON'T BE ABLE TO PARK AND, AND SOME WILL HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS, SO MM-HMM.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THEY PUT MORE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES THERE TO PUT MORE PARKING SPACES, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
UM, 1300 SQUARE FEET BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT TOO.
I, I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING IN A BUNCH OF STUFF ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S UNDER 1300, BUT THIS 1300, IF THERE WERE 1300 HERE WOULD BE A NICER TRANSITION BETWEEN HERE AND THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
AND THEN, AND, UH, IN MY EMAIL AND JUST FOR THE COMMISSION, THE INTERIOR SIDEWALKS APPEAR TO END ONCE THEY GET TO THE TOWN HOMES AND, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BEFORE IT GETS TO CONSOLE, SO IT'S NOT LOCKED IN.
UH, A SIDEWALK VARIANCE IS NOT WAIVER.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT AS IT'S SHOWN ON THE RENDERING, BUT THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THESE SITE.
YEAH, I, I DID SEE 'EM ON THE RENDERING HERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR, FOR NOW.
AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT THE TRAIL WILL LOOP OUT TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK SO PEOPLE COULD WALK A FULL, FULL LOOP.
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THE, UH, THIRD CASE TONIGHT IS Z 24 15.THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR OUTDOOR EQUIPMENT STORAGE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 29 16 AND 3002 NATIONAL DRIVE.
UH, THE SITE IS 2.97 ACRES AND IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
UM, IT IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY, UH, INDUSTRIAL, UM, ZONING ON ALL SIDES.
UM, THIS CONTAINING, UM, USES ALLOWED BY RIGHT SUCH AS, UH, WAREHOUSES, UH, DISTRIBUTION AND, UH, LIGHT MANUFACTURING, ET CETERA.
HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE, UH, SUBJECT SITE AND HERE ARE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA LABELED FOR INDUSTRY, UH, INDUSTRY CENTERS PROVIDED CLUSTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY THAT CUMULATIVE EMPLOY, UH, LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
UM, OVERALL, THE ARCHITECTURE, CHARACTER, SCALE AND INTENSITY SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TYPES.
UM, IT CURRENTLY CONTAINS AN EXISTING 13,413 SQUARE FOOT, UH, STRUCTURE.
UM, SO WITHIN, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, UM, AND THE SITE, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
HOWEVER, UM, IT CANNOT BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND SO IN THIS CASE, UM, THEY WILL BE WANTING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE OF THAT SECOND LOT, UM, TO EQUIPMENT LEASING FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AS THE PRIMARY USE, UM, THROUGH THE PD.
UM, AND SO THAT IS WHY THEY ARE, UM, HERE TODAY.
UH, SO NORMALLY, UM, A, UH, 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH 11 LARGE CANY TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
UM, THERE ARE THREE CURRENTLY, UM, EXISTING ON THAT NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE, UM, THOUGH WHERE THEY DO PROPOSE TO DO THE, UH, OUTSIDE, UM, STORAGE ON THAT SOUTHERN LOT.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A 34 HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS INSTEAD.
UM, ALSO REPLACING THE, UH, EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH AN EIGHT FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH A MESH FABRIC INSTEAD.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THEN ONE WITH THE SATELLITE BACKGROUND, THAT THIS IS WHERE ALL THESE HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS AND FENCE WILL GO TO BETTER, UH, SHIELD THAT, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE FROM EQUIPMENT LEASING, RENTAL INDOOR TO EQUIPMENT LEASING, RENTAL, OUTDOOR, UH, FOR THAT, UM, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, ALSO REQUESTING TO ALLOW THE OUTSIDE STORAGE AS A PRIMARY USE ON LOT TWO TO AVOID COMBINING LOTS.
SO THERE WILL BE NO, UH, REPL, UM, AGAIN ABOUT THE, UH, LARGE CANOPY TREES AND THE, UH, HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHRUBS.
AND THEN, UM, CURRENTLY THEY DO HAVE THAT CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT THEY DO WISH TO REPLACE WITH THAT EIGHT FOOT ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH THE MESH FABRIC.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSIDERED TO BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
THIS CATEGORY REPRESENTS A PROPERTY TAX REVENUE PER ACRE AT $7,445.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR EQUIPMENT LEASING, RENTAL, OUTDOOR USE.
WE SENT OUT 58 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND ZERO WERE RECEIVED.
I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, PAGE ONE OF THREE, THE PLANNING REPORT BACKGROUND.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT REQUESTING A PD SOLELY TO AVOID THE REQUIREMENTS OF APPLICATIONS FOR SUVS? UM, YOU SAID YOU JUST SAID, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ATTEMPTING TO AVOID THE RE PLAT, BUT, WELL, THE, UM, SO THE PD WAS JUST SO THEY COULD DO THIS OUTSIDE STORAGE.
UM, 'CAUSE BEFORE IT WAS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THIS BUILDING.
UM, AND THEY WERE, UM, SEEKING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, UM, AS A PRIMARY USE.
AND SO THE, THE ACCESSORY USE BASICALLY STOPPED, UM, APPLYING, UM, TO, BECAUSE IT WAS PARTIALLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF BEHIND.
AND SO IN ORDER TO KEEP THEIR OUTSIDE STORAGE ON THIS PROPERTY AT ALL, UM, IT WOULD'VE NEEDED THAT TO BE THE PRIMARY USE TO HAVE IT ON THIS LOT AT ALL.
COULD THEY HAVE ASKED FOR AN SUP, SO PART OF THE REPORT REFERENCES THAT THEY WANTED THIS, UM, BY, RIGHT FROM NOW ON, UH, COULD THEY HAVE REQUESTED AN SUP INSTEAD OF, UM, UM, TRYING, TRYING TO, COULD THEY HAVE, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
COULD THEY HAVE REQUESTED AN SUP? NO, THE, UH, PD WAS DETERMINED, UM, FROM STAFF TO BE THE BEST OPTION.
UM, THERE'S, AND, AND HELP ME IF YOU CAN, BECAUSE
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THIS ISSUE IS GONNA COME UP, UH, FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER CASES AS WELL, ACCESSORY USE AS OPPOSED TO A PRIMARY USE.UH, I KNOW IN SOME CITIES OR ACCESSORY USE IS, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 5% OF THE LOT AS OPPOSED TO THE MAJORITY.
WHAT IS IT HERE? UM, SO IN THE SENSE OF OUTSIDE STORAGE, UM, REALLY IT JUST, IF AS LONG AS THAT OUTSIDE STORAGE IS ASSOCIATED, UM, WITH LIKE THE MAIN USE OF THE ACTUAL EXISTING BUILDING, UM, IT'S ALLOWED, BUT IT JUST HAS TO BE TUCKED BEHIND THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THAT WAS, THIS HAD, HAD BEEN HERE TO THE SIDE AND IN FRONT, UH, BEFORE.
SO REALLY IT'S, IT'S MORE OF JUST LIKE HOW YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO OUTSIDE STORAGE, UM, FOR IT TO REMAIN AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO THERE'S NO LIMITATION TO THE ACCESSORY USE OTHER THAN THE LOCATION OF THE USE.
UM, THERE ARE, SO THERE ARE MANY, UM, WAYS TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE TO A PRIMARY, UM, BUSINESS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD LIKE A, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN WAREHOUSE, UM, YOU COULD ALSO HAVE TRUCKS STORED THERE OF YOUR OWN.
'CAUSE THAT'S AN ACCESSORY USE.
UM, BUT THERE IS NO LIKE, HARD, UM, CAP FOR LIKE HOW MANY, LIKE TRUCKS, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD BE THERE.
UM, SO IT'S MORE OF JUST DETERMINING IF IT'S REALLY PART OF THE, THE BUSINESS THAT'S EXISTING AND ALLOWED ON THE SITE AS LONG AS IT FOLLOWS, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN KIND OF A JUDGMENT CALL.
SO, SIR, I, I GUESS I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE VISUALIZING IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU, UH, USING THE JUDGMENT CALL, YOU'D HAVE TO DETERMINE ON A CASE BY CASE SITUATION, UM, WHEN THE ACCESSORY USE WAS NOT THE PRIMARY USE WHEN, WHEN THAT HADN'T BLED TOO FAR, UH, OVER.
BUT, BUT I WILL, UH, I'LL CONCEDE AND, AND MOVE A LITTLE BIT FORWARD.
UM, THE PAGE TWO OF THREE PLANNING REPORTS, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING PRIVACY SCREENS ON CHAIN LEAK FENCE, UM, DON'T EXACTLY, UH, EVOKE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO A LANDSCAPING SOLUTION.
UM, HOW DID, DID THE CITY ENCOURAGE THE LARGE CHIN CANOPY TREES? OR WAS THIS THE MIDDLE GROUND THAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSED? WHERE WERE WE ON THAT? UM, I BELIEVE THIS WAS MORE OF A, A, UH, KIND OF MIDDLE GROUND, UM, SOLUTION WITH THE FENCE BEING CHANGED IN FRONT.
AND THEN THE 34 HIGH LEVEL SCREENING SHOS, UM, BEING PROPOSED IN FRONT INSTEAD.
UH, THE FENCE, UM, TECHNICALLY DIDN'T NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I, I'VE GOT ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PARK THIS EQUIPMENT IN FRONT OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDING, OR IS THAT NAILED DOWN ENOUGH THAT IT'S ONLY ON THE LOWER PORTION? UM, SO THE EQUIPMENT IS IN WHATEVER IS BEING STORED INSIDE THAT OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE STORAGE, LIKE RIGHT NOW.
SUPPOSE THEY WERE TO PARK SOME, SOME OF THESE EQUIPMENT ITEMS IN FRONT OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDING, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT OR CAN WE TIGHTEN THAT UP WHERE ANY EQUIPMENT IS ONLY ON THIS SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT? UM, SO IN THE SENSE OF EQUIPMENT, LIKE DO YOU MEAN LIKE A VEHICLE FRONT END LOAD OR WHATEVER THEY'RE STORING? YEAH.
UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MEANT TO BE OUTSIDE STORAGE, UM, LIKE MATERIAL OR ALL THIS EQUIPMENT, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THIS ZONE.
BUT IF IT WAS LIKE A WORK TRUCK, THEY'D BE ALLOWED TO LIKE PARK THAT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH, WE MAY WANNA NAIL THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
OTHERWISE, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY PUT THE SCREENING AND THE WR IRON FENCE IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING TOO, IF THERE'S EVEN A CHANCE THAT THEY CAN PARK OUT THERE.
AND THEY'RE GONNA REPAVE THE WHOLE THING WITH CONCRETE, CORRECT? UH, YES SIR.
THAT WOULD BE, UM, REQUIRED IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S IT ON THIS ONE.
CASE NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, Z 24 22.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR TRUCK STORAGE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1602 KINGS ROAD.
UM, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE, IT IS AN 8.255 ACRE SITE ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UM, HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY AND HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
UM, HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THE FIRST LOOKING TOWARDS FROM KINGS ROAD AND THEN LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET.
AND HERE ARE PHOTOS LOOKING NORTH AND SOUTH DOWN KINGS ROAD.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA LABELED FOR, UH, INDUSTRY, INDUSTRY CENTERS, UH, PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOY LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
UH, SITE DESIGN ADDRESSES FUNCTION AND VISIBLE AESTHETICS THAT PROVIDE APPROPRIATE BUFFERING AT GATEWAY CORRIDORS BETWEEN ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS AND FOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
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THE CONCEPT PLAN.UH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, CONCEPT PLAN THAT, UM, HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, UH, SINCE WE DID THAT RULE CHANGE, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UM, SO THERE IS A MUCH LESS DETAIL THAN IN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BEFORE ON THE DETAIL PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, RIGHT HERE IS THE OFFICE PROPOSED.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TRUCK PARKING HERE IN THE WHITE, UH, DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE.
UH, THE GDC DOES NOT ALLOW FENCING WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO KEEP THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UH, IN EXCHANGE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES INCREASED LANDSCAPING THAT WILL EXCEED GDC STANDARDS, UH, TO INCREASE, UH, PERIMETER LANDSCAPE BUFFERS FOR IMPROVED SCREENING OF PARKING AREAS AND WITHIN THE SITE TO IMPROVE AESTHETICS, UH, AS CONVEYED THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AS WE CAN SEE, THIS GREEN HERE KIND OF VERY MUCH GOES PAST WHAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WOULD BE ON KINGS ROAD, UM, WHICH IS A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
IT'S FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION.
UH, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A TRUCK STORAGE, UH, SITE, AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE SOUTHERN PARCEL MEETING.
THE GDC REQUIREMENT, UH, LANDSCAPING WILL EXCEED, UM, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS PER THE GDC.
THERE ARE NO DEVIATIONS REQUESTED THERE.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT REQUESTS, UH, THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A PERIOD OF 35 YEARS AND HOURS OF OPERATION BEING, UM, ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN HIGHLIGHTS STANDALONE COMMERCIAL AS BRINGING IN 5,380 REVENUE, UH, PER ACRE.
THE PLAN NOTES THE NUMBER OF AUTO RELATED USES IN GARLAND AS WELL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A TRUCK, UH, BUS STORAGE USE, UH, CONCEPT PLAN FOR SUCH USE AND A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE, UH, FOR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF A LANDSCAPING PROVISION PREVENTING FENCING FROM BEING IN THE LANDSCAPE.
BUFFER STAFF FINDS THAT THIS USE, UM, ON THIS PARTIAL OF LAND WILL NOT BRING IN ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE, PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE LEAVES A CHAIN LINK FENCE, UH, WITH BARBED WIRE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH LITTLE ROOM FOR PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY ON THE STREET SIDE.
IN ADDITION, THE TREES WILL BE A RISK AT GROWING INTO THE BARBED WIRE AND CHAIN LINK AS WELL, UM, FOR BEING TOO CLOSE TO MAINTAIN PROPERLY AND SAFELY.
WE RECEIVED ONE AND IT WAS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST.
I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ALBAN.
I TRIED TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GO, BUT, UH, I, I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA HOG THE MIC TONIGHT.
UM, YOU'RE SOUNDING LIKE ME NOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S A COMPLIMENT, I THINK.
FIRST QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR YOU.
THE, REGARDING THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE, THIS IS 24 22, RIGHT? NOT 24, 23.
YEAH, THEY'RE THE SAME, THE SAME LITTLE CONFUSING.
UM, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS, SO THIS WOULD BE THE SOUTHERN HALF THEN 24, 23 IS THE NORTHERN HALF.
THEY'RE SEPARATE SUP PROPOSALS.
THE, THE QUESTION, THE FIRST QUESTION'S RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE.
HOW, UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO EDUCATE ME HOW, UH, AT WHAT POINT WOULD THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UH, BE INVOLVED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE? YES.
SO, UM, UH, PER THE CODE, UM, A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE IS REQUIRED BECAUSE, UM, IT, FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THERE ARE NO LIKE OBSTACLES ALLOWED WITHIN IT, INCLUDING A FENCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE, UM, GRANTS, UM, BASICALLY YOU CAN REQUEST A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE IF IT IS RELATED TO LIKE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
AND SINCE THIS IS, UM, IT WAS DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE THAT GOES TO THE PLANT COMMISSION.
PAGE, UH, TWO OF THREE, THE PLANNING REPORTS STANDALONE COMMERCIAL.
UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A TY TYPO OR HOW WAS THAT IN REFERENCE TO MAYBE THE OTHER PORTION? UM, IT WAS CONSIDERED STANDALONE COMMERCIAL, UM, PER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE CLOSEST USE TO WHAT THEY GAVE IN THEIR CATEGORIES AS MUCH OF THEIR INDUSTRIAL CATEGORIES WERE MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL MANUFAC.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT FIT BETTER THAN THIS, UM, IN OUR OPINION.
SECTION SIX SEP PROVISION IN EFFECT FOR 35 YEARS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN SUP UNLESS WE'RE TYING THE TWO TOGETHER.
I GUESS THIS MIGHT
UM, WE TYPICALLY DO TIE THEM TOGETHER.
UM, 'CAUSE NORMALLY SUVS AND, AND DEVELOPMENT VARIANCES
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DO COME TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.UM, BUT WE LIKE TO TIE 'EM TOGETHER IF IT'S PART OF THE SAME GENERAL REQUEST.
UM, BUT YES, THEY'RE REQUESTING AN SUP FOR THE TRUCK STORAGE.
THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT RELATING TO REPAIR USE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE REPAIR USE REFERENCED IN THE MATERIALS, ARE THEY? YES, SIR.
SO, SO THE, UH, REPAIR, CAN I TALK YEAH.
THE REPAIR USE WILL BE ON THE NEXT, UM, ONE, SO WHOEVER RECEIVED THE LETTER WOULD LIKELY HAVE SEEN THE SAME ADDRESS FOR BOTH.
AND, AND THE REPAIR IS FOR C 24, 20 24, 23.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE THERE? YES, SIR.
SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN IS BRINGING IN C CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT THIS MEANS HERE? MY QUESTION, BRING IN 5,030 PER MONTH, PER YEAR, PER DECADE, PER WEEK.
WHAT IS THAT? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, PER YEAR.
SO THEY, IN THEIR STUDY IT WAS, THEY HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTY USES LABELED, AND THEN HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY'D BRING IN PER ACRE, UH, PER YEAR.
AND SO THE STANDALONE COMMERCIAL HAD THAT MUCH AS REVENUE, SO THEY WOULD EXPECT THAT PER ACRE, THIS OR ANY STANDALONE COMMERCIAL.
AND SO THAT BECOMES THE STAND A STANDARD OR THAT'S WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE FROM THIS PROJECT.
THAT IS JUST FOR ANY STAND ALL THINGS THEY CAN CONSIDER STANDALONE COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN YOU GO TO THE, I GUESS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS I THINK THE LAST SLIDE.
WHAT IS ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE? UM, WELL, SO THIS IS A TRUCK STORAGE.
AND AGAIN, THERE WAS NO GOOD CATEGORY THAT THIS FIT IN WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, BUT WE DO WISH TO USE IT MORE AS PART OF THE DECISION MAKER.
BUT THE TRUCK STORAGE USE, JUST THE TRUCK STORAGE ALONE, WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT REALLY EVEN MEETS THE STANDARD FOR, FOR STANDALONE COMMERCIAL FOR THAT KIND OF OF INCOME.
BUT, UM, THERE ISN'T TOO MUCH ABOUT TRUCK STORAGE USE WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
BUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE? SO IS THERE SOME MINIMUM ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE THAT STAFF NOW CONSIDERS IN ORDER TO APPROVE A PLAN? WELL, THIS IS, UM, IT IS NOT, UM, THERE'S NO HARD NUMBER THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, BUT, BUT YOU ALL SAID THAT IT'S SO, BUT WHAT MY PROBLEM IS THAT STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION HERE, AND THEY'VE SAID THAT THIS PARCEL OF LAND WILL NOT BRING IN ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE.
WHAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE REVENUE PER ACRE? AND WHAT IS STAFF'S ESTIMATE OF THE REVENUE PER ACRE OF THIS FACILITY? UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A HARD NUMBER, IF I MAY.
AND, AND CAN I, CAN I ASK KIND OF A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, PLEASE? IT SEEMS TO ME, IN LOOKING AT ALL THESE NUMBERS, MM-HMM.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS RAW LAND.
SO THAT'S, IF IT JUST SITS THERE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S BRINGING IN.
AS A PART OF THIS ANALYSIS, IT'S A HIGH LEVEL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT LAND COULD BE.
UH, LOOKING AT A BASE ANALYSIS.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, ONCE A DEVELOPMENT IS IDENTIFIED, IT MAY GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
THE, THE BASE ANALYSIS ESTABLISHES THAT WE WANT TO GENERATE THIS, THIS MUCH REVENUE PER USE OR BY USE.
AND SO IN LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UM, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A HIGHER AND BEST USE FOR THIS SITE.
AND THAT PLAYED INTO, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDERED FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO IT'S NOT THE ONLY CONSIDERATION, UH, BUT IT DID, UH, HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON THE CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND FOR, UH, AND FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, IT, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, I I, I, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM REGULATING LAND USE HERE, AND IT JUST GIVES ME SOME SIGNIFICANT HEARTBURN.
AND DOES CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE ANY, ANY CONCERNS IN THIS REGARD? I MEAN, AM I, AM I KIND OF, AM MY CONCERNS MISPLACED? THE, THE ONLY WAY I CAN TIE THIS IN IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
HOW IS, IS IT PART OF THE, THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO HAVE? UM, I YOUR CONCERNS ARE VALID.
HOW ABOUT WE LEAVE IT WITH THAT? UH, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE, THE COMMISSION NOT FOCUS ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, UH, THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BRING IN AND FOCUS ON, IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR THAT LAND? OKAY.
I, AND, AND THAT'S MY, I MEAN, PLEASE DON'T ADD ECONOMISTS TO MY JOB AS WELL ALREADY.
I HAVE, I MEAN, OR BUSINESS PERSON IN THE TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE INDUSTRY OR REALLY
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ANY OTHER INDUSTRY IS, MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S ADEQUATE REVENUE AND, AND WHY ARE WE TRYING TO ESTIMATE WHAT THE ADEQUATE, WHAT THE REVENUE WOULD BE FROM ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES, UH, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE FOR A LONG TIME.IT'S ALWAYS, I'VE TAKEN THE POSITION THAT, UM, THAT IF, IF PRIVATE INDUSTRY, IF PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR MONEY AT RISK, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT INEXPENSIVE TO COME AND BUILD THESE KINDS OF THINGS, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THEIR MONEY AT RISK.
AND I, GOSH, I HOPE IT'S PROFITABLE, BUT I'M NOT THE ONE WHO DECIDES.
AND COMMISSIONER ABEL, DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN VACANT? UH, NO SIR.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S USED AS AN ACCESSORY USE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO THE EAST.
WELL, YOUR QUESTION WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY MEAN? AND MY ONLY CONCLUSION IS IT'S RAW LAND.
IF IT'S DEVELOPED WITH SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY HIGHER.
SO, AND THAT GOES TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE SCENARIO.
AND, AND ALSO I NOTICED ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S A RELATIVE, IT'S A NEWER DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S NICER AND EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE TOO AND UPGRADING OUR INDUSTRIAL RE REVITALIZING INDUSTRIALS.
WE DO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND MAKE IT LOOK NICER.
SO IF THIS WERE TO EVEN GO, UH, I WOULD THINK A, A MASONRY WALL WITH LANDSCAPING AROUND IT VERSUS A CHAIN LINK FENCE AND JUST BRING SOME QUALITY INTO THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TOO.
'CAUSE THE STUFF ACROSS THE STREET IS NICER.
AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THERE'S, UM, NO FENCING REQUIRED IN THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT HERE FOR THIS USE.
WELL, IS THERE ANY, WELL, IT'S PART OF A PD, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
THIS IS A, JUST A S STRAIGHT ZONING.
WELL, IT CAN BE AN SUP CONDITION.
I JUST WANTED TO S CAN OPEN IT UP, UH, AS PDS CAN.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.
WE DON'T EVEN GET TAX REVENUE ON THE VEHICLE'S PARKED THERE.
UH, THE, UH, NEXT CASE IS, UH, UH, Z 24 23.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR TRUCK REPAIR AND TRUCK STORAGE.
UM, THE LOCATION IS 1602 KINGS ROAD.
IT IS THE NORTH PARCEL ZONE, SIX POINT, UH, 6 4 4 ACRES.
UH, THE INDU, UH, THE SITE IS ZONED, UH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UH, THESE, HERE'S WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND HERE'S WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
UH, HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE, AGAIN, UH, LOOKING WEST OR LOOKING EAST, UH, TOWARD THE SUBJECT SITE FROM KINGS ROAD LOOKING WEST ACROSS THE STREET, THEN, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH ON KINGS ROAD.
UH, THE SITE IS, UM, SLATED FOR INDUSTRY PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, UH, INDUSTRY CENTERS PROVIDED CLUSTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOY LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
UH, HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN AGAIN.
UM, HERE'S THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE USED FOR, UH, TRUCK REPAIR AND AN INTEGRATED OFFICE FOR THE TRUCK STORAGE.
UM, WITH THE, UH, W BEING A TRUCK, UH, STORAGE, PARKING, UM, FOR THE CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE.
UH, THE GDC DOES NOT ALLOW FENCING WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UH, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO KEEP THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UM, IN EXCHANGE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES INCREASED, UH, LANDSCAPING THAT WILL EXCEED GDC STANDARDS TO INCREASE PERIMETER LANDSCAPE BUFFERS FOR IMPROVED SCREENING OF PARKING AREAS AND WITHIN THE SITE TO IMPROVE AESTHETICS.
UH, AS CONVEYED THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, FOR THE PD, UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A TRUCK, STORAGE SITE AND TRUCK REPAIR BUILDING WITH THE INTEGRATED, UH, OFFICE.
UH, IN THE NORTHERN PARCEL MEETING, GDC STANDARDS, UH, LANDSCAPING WOULD EXCEED, UM, AND THE APPLICABLE, UH, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPE STANDARDS PER THE GDC.
UM, BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL COMPLY, UH, WITH THE, UH, GDC STANDARDS.
UH, THE REPAIR BASE WILL NOT BE FACING THE STREET.
UH, THUS COMPLYING WITH, UH, GDC STANDARDS.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A 35 YEAR SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, UM, WITH, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION BEING ALL DAY, UH, FOR EACH DAY OF THE WEEK.
UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, HIGHLIGHTS, UH, STANDALONE COMMERCIAL AS $5,380 REVENUE PER ACRE.
UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, WILL CONTAIN, UH, TWO BUSINESSES INCREASING REVENUE PER ACRE.
UH, THE PLAN NOTES THE NUMBER OF AUTO RELATED USES IN GARLAND AS WELL.
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PROJECT PROVIDES OR CREATES TO THE EXISTING SITE AND LEAVES ROOM FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE, UH, PROVISION FOR A TRUCK BUS REPAIR USE AND TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A TRUCK BUS REPAIR USE AND TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE, AND A DENIAL OF A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE FOR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF A LANDSCAPING PROVISION PREVENTING FENCING FROM BEING IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE LEAVES A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH BARBED WIRE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH LITTLE ROOM FOR PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY ON THE STREET SIDE.
IN ADDITION, THE TREES WILL BE A RISK OF GROWING INTO THE BARBED WIRE AND A CHAIN LINK FENCE AS WELL FOR BEING, UH, TOO CLOSE TO MAINTAIN PROPERLY AND SAFELY.
HOWEVER, STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT A SHORTER SEP TIME PERIOD GUIDE, UH, GIVEN THE REQUESTED 35 YEARS, UM, A TIME PERIOD OF 20 TO 25 YEARS AS SUGGESTED, WHICH FOLLOWS THE 2021 SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE.
IN ADDITION, UH, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION BE SHORTENED TO MORE STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS FOR EACH SUP UH, STAFF.
UH, SENT OUT 18 NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
WE RECEIVED ONE AND IT WAS, UH, OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THE REQUEST.
I'M, UH, OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION USES THE TERM TRUCK.
UH, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE UNDER THAT TERM? UM, IT WOULD BE LIKE A TRUCK THAT HAULS, LIKE A, A TRAILER.
IT'D BE A TRACTOR AND A TRAILER.
UM, SO THE, YEAH, THE, THE ACTUAL LIKE TRACTOR PART WOULD BE GETTING REPAIRED, BUT THE STORAGE WOULD BE FOR, UH, THE TRAILER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS ONE? I'LL BRING UP, UH, SOME OF MY, UH, THIS ONE I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF.
IT'S, IT'S ALMOST THE, ALMOST AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE REPAIR.
SO THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE.
AND THERE, THERE, THERE GOES THE QUESTIONABILITY AND JUDGMENT OF SCALE AND EVERYTHING.
BUT AGAIN, INSTEAD OF THE FENCE WITH THE BARBED WIRE, DON'T WE HAVE A PROHIBITION FOR BARBED WIRE IN THE CITY TOO? AND THE GDC? UM, THAT COULD BE FOR NEW FENCES, YES, BUT SO THIS WOULD BE LEGAL NONCONFORMING THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO KEEP.
I, I WOULD, AGAIN, IN BEAUTIFYING IT, GO WITH THE WROUGHT IRON WITH LANDSCAPING, AND YOU CAN DO SECURITY WROUGHT IRON FENCES.
WE HAVE 'EM AROUND THE DATA CENTERS UP NORTH, AND THEY DO LOOK GOOD.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO IMPROVE INDUSTRIAL AREAS WELL AS WE IMPROVE EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO I'D BE MORE WILLING TO DO THAT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO BRING THAT FENCE AROUND THE CORNER.
THERE'S A DRIVE LEADING INTO IT, OR THERE TWO DRIVES.
I'D, I'D BRING IT AROUND AT LEAST THAT SOUTHERN DRIVE TO HELP SCREEN AGAIN, THE TRAILERS AND THE TRUCKS PARKING THERE AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET.
AND, AND GO TO THE STORAGE SECTION.
AND THE, UH, FINAL CASE TONIGHT IS A Z 24 24.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A FULL SERVICE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 33 33 0 5 ZION ROAD.
IT IS A 4.12 ACRE SITE, ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY, UM, THE, UH, AGRICULTURAL USE TO THE NORTH FOR THE PARK AND, UH, BOAT RAMP, UM, MULTIFAMILY, UH, ZONING AND PD 1810.
AND, UH, MULTIFAMILY ONE DISTRICTS.
UM, CURRENTLY, UH, HOUSING, UM, APARTMENTS.
AND THEN THE, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH, UH, VACANT LAND AND THEN, UM, SOME VERY LOW SCALE, UH, RETAIL ALONG THE FRONT EDGE OF I 30.
HERE ARE, UH, PHOTOS OF THE SITE, UH, THE FIRST LOOKING WEST INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF ZION AND BASS PRO.
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THE SECOND PHOTO BEING LOOKING NORTH, UH, TOWARD THE LAKE DOWN ZION ROAD.UM, THE NEXT TWO PHOTOS BEING LOOKING EAST, UH, DOWN BASS PRO DRIVE FROM THE INTERSECTION OF ZION ROAD AND BASS PRO DRIVE.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, LOOKING SOUTH DOWN ZION ROAD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA LABELED FOR REGIONAL CENTERS.
THE ENVISION GARLAND PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES REGIONAL CENTERS.
OUR REGIONAL CENTERS ARE AREAS WITHIN A HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF ACTIVITY THAT SERVE AS A DESTINATION FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS USES.
WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, I PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES, ENTERTAINMENT, AND EMPLOYMENT.
AND MAY INCLUDE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
REGIONAL CENTERS MAY BE FOUND ALONG MAJOR HIGHWAYS AND TURNPIKES, UH, AND AT SIGNIFICANT BUSER RAIL STATIONS.
UH, HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE.
UM, IT DOES SHOW A MAIN HOTEL STRUCTURE, UM, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PASS PROPOSED, UM, PROPOSED GREEN LANDSCAPE, AND THEN A 14 INDIVIDUAL, UH, VILLAS THAT WOULD BE, UM, SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
UM, THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS, UH, FOR THIS REQUEST.
UM, THE HOTEL MOTEL FULL SERVICE USE REQUIRES A PARKING RATIO OF ONE PER ROOM, PLUS ONE FOR EVERY 200 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, UH, RESTAURANT CONFERENCE AND OFFICE AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY USE, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY USE A PARKING RATIO OF 0.66 PER ROOM, PLUS ONE FOR EVERY 200 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT RETAIL CONFERENCE AND OFFICE AREA.
THIS WOULD REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING, UH, BY 45 PER THE, UH, CURRENT PROPOSAL.
UM, A PARKING STUDY WAS PROVIDED IN WHICH, UH, 12 FULL SERVICE HOTELS IN DALLAS AND LAS COLINAS WERE EXAMINED.
UM, IT CONCLUDED THAT 0.67 SPACES PER ROOM WERE NEEDED ON BOTH THE WEEKDAYS AND WEEKENDS, UH, WITH THE LOCATIONS OF THESE HOTELS BEING MORE CENTRAL TO THE METROPLEX.
UM, THE PARKING STUDY ARGUED THAT THESE HOTELS WOULD'VE MORE PARKING DEMAND, ESPECIALLY FOR THEIR, UH, RESTAURANT'S OFFICE, UM, AND, UH, CONFERENCE USES, UM, THAN THE PROPOSED FULL SERVICE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
UM, ON THIS SITE ALSO CITED WAS THE INCREASING USE OF, UH, UM, RIDE SHARING OPTIONS SUCH AS, UH, UBER, LYFT, UM, ET CETERA.
UM, ESPECIALLY FROM OUT OF TOWN GUESTS, UH, FOR HOTELS IN THE AREA.
UM, AS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT, THE UH, GDC ALLOWS 35 FEET, UH, TO BE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
UH, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A VARIANCE TO ALLOW, UH, FOR A 58 FEET, UH, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT.
UH, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT, UM, IN THAT DIS UH, ZONING, UH, A FULL SERVICE HOTEL USE, UH, IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND MAYBE ANY LEGAL HEIGHT DUE TO A LACK OF MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WITHIN THAT ZONING CATEGORY.
UM, FOR GUEST ROOM ACCESS, UH, THE GDC ONLY ALLOWS GUEST ROOMS TO BE ACCESSED FROM, UH, INTERIOR HALLWAYS, WHICH ARE, UM, ACCESSIBLE FROM A CENTRAL LOBBY WITHIN THE BUILDING.
EXCEPT FOR FIRST FLOOR UNITS, WHICH ARE ACCESSIBLE, UH, FROM AN INTERIOR COURTYARD OR SWIMMING POOL AREA.
UH, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT GUEST ROOMS MAY BE ACCESSED FROM THE EXTERIOR HALLWAYS AND THE 14 INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES TO MAKE THE VILLA CONCEPT POSSIBLE.
UM, FINALLY, THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING, UH, OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO INCLUDE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS TO ZION ROAD AND THE PUBLIC HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL SYSTEM.
UH, WITH THIS PROJECT, THE REQUEST WE'LL SEE ZION ROAD, UH, REBUILT TO ALLOW ANGLED AND PARALLEL SPACES ALONG THE NORTH FRONTAGE OF ZION ROAD.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL TAKE PLACE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS RECONSTRUCT THE WHOLE WIDTH, UM, UH, OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
THE ZION WILL MIMIC, UH, THE DESIGN OF THE PREVIOUS ZION ROAD, UH, EXTENSION PROJECT WITH A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH A 12.5, UH, WIDE DRIVE LANES.
UH, IN ADDITION TO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, A 10 FOOT, UH, WIDE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL IS PROPOSED OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES AND SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, FOLLOWING MY CURSOR HERE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, CREATING DESTINATIONS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF INCREASING GARLAND'S NON-LOCAL, UH, SALES TAX REVENUE.
EXAMPLES OF THIS INCLUDE ALL LAKEFRONT AREAS DUE TO THE UNIQUE LOCATION WITHIN THE METROPLEX DESTINATIONS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED OTHER, THE EXPANSION OF LODGING OPTIONS ARE ENCOURAGING MORE HIGH QUALITY HOTELS ALONG HIGHWAY CORRIDORS AND BOUTIQUE HOTELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A HOTEL MOTEL FULL SERVICE USE.
WE SENT OUT 190 NOTIFICATION LETTERS.
UH, WE RECEIVED SIX OUTSIDE THE, WE RECEIVED SIX IN TOTAL.
WE RECEIVED ONE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST THREE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST AND, UH, ONE, OR SORRY, TWO WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST.
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ONE QUESTION FOR NOW ON THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE FROM, FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT, 35 TO 58, IS IT BASED ON THE DENSITY? WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE, WHY IS THE ASK FOR IT TO INCREASE TO 58? IS IT DENSITY? WHAT, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST 58 FEET IS, IS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT, UM, IS CHOOSING.'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO PLAN THE HOTEL TO BE, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, LIKE SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO THEY, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO OVER BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATE THEIR STRUCTURE TO GO TO THAT HEIGHT.
AND THIS QUESTION JUST CAME UP.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FULL SERVICE AND A FULL SERVICE BOUTIQUE? UH, NO, SIR.
SO THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL WAS JUST TO PROVIDE EXTRA, UH, DETAIL.
AS A, AS AN ADJECTIVE FOR THE ALRIGHT.
BUT ON THE, UH, PLAN, UH, ON THE, UH, PD CONDITIONS, UH, THE USE OF THE WORD BOUTIQUE, UH, DISAPPEARS.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY FULL SERVICE HOTEL ON THAT WHOLE HALF OF THE CITY.
I KNOW WE, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OUT IN NORTH AND THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS IN THAT I EMAILED YOU ABOUT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TIGHTEN UP.
UH, ONE IS THAT EXTERIOR ACCESS FOR ONLY THOSE 14 VILLAS.
AND THAT WAY THAT'S TIGHTENED UP AND THEY DON'T COME BACK LATER AND MAKE IT, UH, THAT, UM, AND THE TYPICALLY WE DON'T ALLOW, EXCEPT FOR DOWNTOWN STREET PARKING TO GO TO THE ACCOUNT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWING IT FOR THIS THEN, UH, YES SIR.
AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO NAIL DOWN THE UNDERGROUND PARKING 'CAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM A RIGHT HERE AND SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND REDESIGN AND PUT GROUND PARKING IN, IN THE, IN A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY DESIGN HOTEL.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, BUT THERE, THERE ISN'T ANY PARKING SHOWN, UM, ON THE SITE, SO.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO Y'ALL AND MAYBE A PERCENTAGE OF PARKING BE UNDERGROUND AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PD FOR US.
YEAH, OR FOR THE, FOR COUNCIL.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE FOLKS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF ACCESS WOULD THERE BE FROM THE HOTEL TO THE PARK, TO THE PARKING THERE, TO THE BOAT RAMP? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY BE A WALL OR SOMETHING, BUT WOULD WE GET PEOPLE PARKING IN THE PARK THERE TO GO TO THEIR HOTEL ROOM AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP SOMEHOW.
UM, YEAH, IT WOULD BE FAIRLY ACCESSIBLE TO GET TO THE PARK AND BOAT RAMP FROM THE HOTEL IF YOU STAYED THERE.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, THERE IS A LITTLE TRAIL CONNECTION HERE.
SO REALLY YOU COULD JUST WALK RIGHT OVER THERE.
UM, SO, UM, BEYOND JUST PREVENTING PARKING THERE.
SO, BUT THAT'S BEYOND OUR CAPABILITY HERE.
I'VE, UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.
OH, ON, UH, COMMISSIONER PARIS'S QUESTION ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
UH, I, I CAN'T TELL OR I'M NOT, UH, EDUCATED ENOUGH TO TELL.
IS THAT HEIGHT GOING TO CREATE A VISUAL, UH, LOOK FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOVE THAT PROPERTY, OR IS THE ELEVATION ENOUGH THAT IT WON'T CAUSE A BLOCKAGE OF THEIR VIEW OF THE LAKE? UM, I WOULD SAY IT LIKELY WOULD PARTIALLY, UM, OBSTRUCT IF YOU LIVED, UM, ON THE CONDOS RIGHT HERE.
DO WE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE ELEVATION? WHAT LIKE, UM, WHAT THE CONDOS, WHAT THEIR HEIGHT IS COMPARED TO WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THAT BUILDING WILL BE? UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF HOW TALL THE CONDOS ARE, BUT, UM, LIKELY LOWER THAN 58 FEET.
I THINK THERE, I THINK THERE'S THREE STORY.
AND THIS LOOKS TO BE FIVE, A FIVE STORY HOTEL? YES, SIR.
FOUR, FIVE STORIES PLUS A, A SLOPE CHIMNEY STRUCTURE.
THEY ACTUALLY LOOK TO BE HIGHER THAN 60 FEET THEMSELVES.
IF I WERE TO HAVE, I MEAN, SO THE UPPER UNITS WOULD STILL HAVE SOME VIEW AND YEAH, POSSIBLY.
I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE, THE TERRAIN IS THERE, BUT THOSE ARE FAIRLY TALL.
THERE'S QUITE THE ELEVATION, THERE IS A BIT OF AN ELEVATION DECREASE AFTER THOSE CONDOS, UM, TO THE HOTEL.
SO IT IS, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT, UM, THE TOP FLOOR MAY BE ABLE TO SEE HER, BUT I DO THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD BE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON, ON THESE SORT OF QUESTIONS.
BUT BY BRINGING IT UP, HE CAN ADDRESS THAT NOW.
UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, ANYTHING ELSE OR? THAT'S IT.
AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER O YOU, YOU HAD CHIMED IN AND, UH, MAKE YOU LIVE AGAIN THERE.
OKAY, THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS.
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KNOW IF I'VE KNOCKED ANYBODY OFF THE QUEUE, BUT I'M DOING MY BEST.UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND I'M REALLY ONLY ADDRESSING IT HERE AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS CALLED OUT IN, IN THE ZONING RESPONSES AND, BUT I HAD ALREADY NOTED IT IN MY REVIEW, THERE WAS A QUESTION OR CONCERN AROUND TRAFFIC AND THERE'S NO CASE STUDY NEEDED IN THIS INSTANCE.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THERE'S ANY MORE CONTEXT TO PROVIDE SINCE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON ONE OF THE NOTIFICATIONS? UH, YES.
SO, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DID REVIEW A TIA FOR THE SITE AND THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR US TO HOLD THE CASE.
AND ALONG THE SAME LINES, UH, IT'S ZION'S PARTIALLY IMPROVED NOW IS IT GONNA BE TOTALLY IMP ISN'T IT, ON THE BOND DEAL TO BE TOTALLY IMPROVED HERE PRETTY SOON? NO, UM, I CAN'T FULLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THERE WAS THAT RECENT, UM, EXTENSION AND REPAIR.
AND, UH, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
SO UNTIL SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE ARE RECESSED.
[Call to Order]
AND WELCOME BACK TO THE JUNE 10TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.WE'RE STARTING, AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
WE COMMISSIONERS TYPICALLY START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE.
YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT.
NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.
TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER.
UM, PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME.
FATHER IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS GATHERING THIS EVENING.
WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US IN OUR PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT AND ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE HERE WITH US, AND THAT YOU BLESS ALL THE HANDS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD AND KEEP THIS CITY SAFE.
WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALSO OUR SECOND RESPONDERS, OUR LINEMEN AND BRUSH CREWS WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY SINCE THE STORMS OF LAST WEEK TO CLEAN UP THE CITY.
WE WELCOME COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH WITH OPEN ARMS AND ASK THAT YOU BLESS HIM AND ALL OF US IN GIVING US AN OPEN HEART AND MIND AND EARS TO WORK TOGETHER.
FINALLY, LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS AMERICA AND THAT YOU BLESS TEXAS AND GOD BLESS GARLAND.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WELL, GOOD EVENING, AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A CROWD OUT HERE TONIGHT.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH FROM UH, EIGHT.
AND HE'S RELATIVELY NEW TO GARLAND.
HE'S ONLY LIVED HERE 80 YEARS, SO IF HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH, PLEASE FORGIVE THEM.
AND AGAIN, WELCOME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT.
UH, WE HAVE SOME EASY RULES FOR OUR SPEAKERS.
UH, WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW, UH, TH THREE MINUTES AND, OR IS IT FIVE? I FORGET ANYHOW, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP, SAY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME.
THREE MINUTES, AND THEN WE, AFTER EVERYBODY'S SPOKEN, WE ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING.
BUT WHAT WE DO NEED IS IF YOU COME UP AND SPEAK, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
AND YOU'LL SEE SOME YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS.
IF YOU FILL THOSE OUT AND GIVE 'EM TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, SECRETARY, THEN I CAN CALL YOU TO COME SPEAK.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM WE GO THROUGH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED, THE COMMISSION'S REVIEWED AND WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE IN ONE VOTE.
IF ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, LET ME KNOW.
IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS AN ITEM REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAY 13TH, 2024 MEETING.
ITEM TWO A PLAT 24 DASH 15 LINDA RAY EDITION RELA ITEM TWO B PLA 24 DASH 16 GARLAND SHILOH EDITION REPL.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
ANYBODY WANT AN ITEM CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, HEAR A MOTION FROM
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COMMISSIONER ROBIN TO APPROVE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JENKINS.THAT IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND COMMISSIONER DALTON HAD TO LEAVE, SO THAT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
[3.a. Consideration of the application of IBC Constructions, LLC, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision for a Fuel Pumps, Retail Use and 2) a Plan for a Fuel Pumps, Retail Use, Convenience Store, Laundry, Self-Serve (Laundromat) and Retail Store Uses on a property zoned Community Retail (CR) District. This property is located at 1270 Pleasant Valley Road. (District 1)]
AGENDA IS THE FIRST ZONING CASE.CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF IBC CONSTRUCTIONS LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL USE, AND A PLAN FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL USE, CONVENIENCE STORE LAUNDRY, SELF-SERVICE LAUNDROMAT AND RETAIL STORES ON PROPERTY ZONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN 1 2 7 0 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? IF YOU CARE TO COME DOWN AND SAY ANYTHING, EXCUSE ME.
GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE COUGHING NIGHTS, FOLKS.
I REPRESENT THE OWNERSHIP GROUP, AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO THE CITY.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL ADD TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE CITY, AND IT WILL, IT WILL IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
UM, I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
THE ADDRESS IS, DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS? FILE YOUR, YEAH, JUST, JUST, YEAH, YOUR ADDRESS OR BUSINESS ADDRESS, WHATEVER.
5 3 3 COYOTE ROAD, SOUTH LAKE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I'M SORRY, CHAIRMAN, WHAT WAS THE NAME? I DIDN'T.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MR. CHAIRMAN? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
UH, TO BEGIN, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUALITY OF THE SUBMISSION.
UH, WE SEE THAT YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MEET THE FLOOR AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THE GDC REQUIREMENTS, JUST BARELY, YOU KNOW, UH, MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE FOR A NUMBER OF THEM, YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS RELATED TO YOUR REQUEST FOR THE SUP IN TERMS OF THE TIME LENGTH, ANY, UH, REASON FOR THAT SPECIFIC TIME LENGTH? SO, OUR INITIAL ANSWER, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT.
WE WANT TO ASK FOR A REASONABLE, UH, LENGTH FOR THE SEP.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE AN OUTRAGEOUS DEMAND.
THIS IS OUR FIRST PROJECT IN THE CITY, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE A GOOD FAITH REQUEST FOR A 15 YEAR, UM, SEP.
WE WELCOME ANY LONGER SEP UH, YOU GUYS DEEM FIT, BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE THESE SORTS OF BUSINESSES AND PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE NO HESITATION.
COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS AFTER 15 YEARS, WE KNOW THERE WILL NOT BE ANY RELUCTANCE TO RENEW OUR SEP 'CAUSE OF THE VALUE WE ARE GOING TO ADD TO THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? SO GENERALLY WE OPERATE 24 HOURS, BUT WE ALWAYS RESPECT THE LOCAL, UM, AND CITY ORDINANCES, AND WE ABIDE BY THOSE ORDINANCES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
MM-HMM,
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.
MOTION DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASED UPON, UH, CITY STAFF.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I LIVED OVER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD 40 YEARS AGO, SO YEAH.
[3.b. Consideration of the application of CCM Engineering, requesting approval of 1) a Change in Zoning from Planned Development (PD) District 14-11 for Single-Family-10 (SF-10) Uses and Planned Development (PD) District 85-24 for Community Retail (CR) Uses to a Planned Development (PD) District for Single-Family Attached (SFA) Uses and 2) a Detail Plan for townhouse development. This property is located at 2000 and 2050 East Miller Road. (District 3)]
B, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF CCM ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 14 DASH 11 FOR SINGLE FAMILY TENANT USES AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 85 DASH 24 FOR COMMUNITY[01:10:01]
RETAIL USES TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES AND A DETAIL PLAN FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2020 50 EAST MILLER ROAD.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, DID YOU NUMBER THREE.
I'VE GOT, YEAH, I'VE GOT TWO OF YOU HERE.
UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING A 90 UNIT, UH, NEED, NEED TO NAME AND ADDRESS.
OTHERWISE, I'LL
UM, I'M LUKE SPICER WITH CCM ENGINEERING.
WE ARE THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE SITE.
UM, DO YOU NEED OUR, OUR FIRM ADDRESS? UM, YEAH, THAT'LL WORK.
BE, UH, 25 70 JUSTIN ROAD, HIGHLAND VILLAGE, TEXAS.
UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING A 90 UNIT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, UM, ON A SITE THAT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR, UM, OVER 40 YEARS.
UM, WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AREA.
WE ARE FEATURING A NUMBER OF AMENITIES, INCLUDING A LOOPED TRAIL, UM, GAZEBO, BARBECUE AREA, UH, PLAYGROUND.
AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, UM, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS IN FINE TUNING IT.
AND DURING THAT TIME, WE HAVE HELD TWO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, UM, WITH THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS THAT FRONT OUR, UM, OUR LOT TO THE SOUTH.
AND, UH, DURING THAT TIME, THEY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD TO US.
AND THEIR PRIMARY CONCERNS WERE THE, UM, THE PRIVACY, UM, OF THE BACKS OF OUR TOWN HOMES THAT ARE FRONTING THE, THEIR EXISTING BACKYARDS.
UM, SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A FEW POINTS OF THINGS THAT WE DID TO, UM, HELP WITH THESE CONCERNS.
SO WE, UM, WE INCREASED THE, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE LOTS THAT FRONT THE BACK OF THEIR HOMES BY 50 FEET.
SO THERE'S AN HOA BUFFER, AND THEN THAT IS WHERE OUR TRAIL WILL GO THROUGH, UH, PARTIALLY WHERE OUR TRAIL WILL GO THROUGH.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, ABOUT 110 FEET FROM THE BACK OF OUR PROPOSED BUILDING TO THE EXISTING BACK OF THEIR HOMES.
UM, I SAID WE ADDED THE, UH, THE TRAIL BACK THERE.
UM, WE'VE OVERALL REDUCED OUR DENSITY, UM, BY ABOUT 25 TOWN HOMES.
UM, IN, IN DOING AND ADDING THIS BUFFER, UM, REGARDING TRAFFIC, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS.
WE HAD A, UM, TRIP GENERATION REPORT DONE FOR BOTH OUR PROPOSED USE AND, UM, THE EXISTING USES.
SO THE EXISTING IS TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS.
ONE IS OWNED SINGLE FAMILY, ONE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
AND SO, UM, WE RAN THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ONE SCENARIO WAS FOR OUR, UM, PROPOSED USE AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR, UM, WERE IN BOTH OF THE, IN SCENARIOS TWO AND THREE, BOTH INCLUDED THE, UM, PRESENT ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT ALLOWABLE USES FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND OUR PROPOSED ZONING, THE TRAFFIC WAS LESS THAN, UH, EITHER OF THE EXISTING ZONING USES.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO PREPARED THAT REPORT HERE, AND IF, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, THEN HE CAN, HE CAN SPEAK, UM, IN MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
UM, IN ADDITION, UM, WE HAVE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE ALSO ADDED PICKLEBALL COURTS AS AN AMENITY.
UM, THERE WILL BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL, UM, ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY, BUT SPECIFICALLY, UM, BETWEEN, UH, THE, THE BACKS OF THOSE HOMES AND, UH, AND THE BACKS OF OUR TOWN HOMES, UM, WE ARE, UH, DEDICATING EXTRA RIGHT OF WAY TO THE ALLEY THAT EXISTS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL CITY RIGHT OF WAY, UM, AS A BUFFER IN BETWEEN, UH, OUR PROPOSED UNITS IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
UM, SO BE, BECAUSE WE ARE, UM, WE'VE ADDED THAT BUFFER, UH, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN MORE OF THE EXISTING TREES THAT EXIST IN THAT AREA, UM, WHICH WE'LL ADD ANOTHER BUFFER AND, UM, WE'LL HELP MAINTAIN SOME OF THE, THE NATURAL FEATURES OF THAT AREA.
UM, AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO MAKE A POINT THAT UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THESE AMENITIES, UH, THAT I'VE MENTIONED.
UM, BUT, UH, SO THOSE WERE THE, THE MAIN POINTS THAT WE'VE DONE TO KIND OF HELP EASE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, HOPEFULLY, AND, UH, JUST MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE THIS, UM, AS, AS NICE OF AN ADDITION TO THE AREA AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
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UM, SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, I DID MAKE ONE OF THOSE, UH, MEETINGS YOU HAD TO LISTEN.AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT YOU MADE A PRETTY GOOD EFFORT.
YOU REDUCED THE DENSITY, UH, YOU'RE THE ENGINEER, RIGHT? SO JUST TO MAKE SURE, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY UTILITIES GOING IN BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE TOWN HOMES AND THE, AND THE FOLKS BACK BEHIND.
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT, THE TREES AND EVERYTHING BACK THERE.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT OFTEN HAPPENS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE TREES TO PUT UTILITIES.
SO THEY'LL BE IN THE STREETS THEN.
THEY WILL PRIMARILY BE, UM, WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE DEDICATING.
UM, THERE WILL BE SOME THAT GO OUT EAST TOWARDS, UM, THE LAKE, BUT THOSE ARE NOT GONNA BE IN THE HOA BUFFER AREA THAT WE, THAT WE'RE DEDICATING.
AND, UM, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP, BUT THAT, UH, WALL BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND THE BACK OF THOSE UNITS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, IS THAT WALL GONNA BE AT THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE UNITS OR AT THE PROPERTY LINE? OVERALL? PROPERTY LINE, IT WILL BE AT THE OVERALL PROPERTY LINE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATES THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED TO US AND THAT, WERE YOU HERE FOR THE, UM, THE PRE-MEETING? YES, MA'AM.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF A QUICK QUESTIONS AND THEN, UH, A FEW THINGS, UH, A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE.
UH, MY FIRST, UM, UPDATE THAT I SAW, AND JUST FOR AWARENESS, JUST IN CASE FOLKS DID NOT HEAR THIS PART OF IT, UM, THE QUESTION I HAD EARLIER WAS AROUND IF HAD, HAD THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE, AND YOU JUST COMMUNICATED THAT THAT STUDY WAS COMPLETED AND THERE AND IT WAS DEEMED FEWER, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE STUDY? ONE MORE TIME? SO UNDER OUR PROPOSED USE, THERE WOULD BE LESS TRIPS GENERATED THAN UNDER ALLOWABLE USES FOR THE CURRENT ZONING.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS FOR THAT, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THAT LAND THAT PARCEL'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ANY OTHER USE OTHER THAN THE CURRENT PROPOSED USE THAT YOU'RE ASKING? UM, WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED, UM, ANOTHER USE OTHER THAN THE EXISTING ZONING AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.
AND MY INTENT IS JUST TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE BEST USE OF LAND AND HAVE YOU DONE THAT DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND EVEN IN YOUR, YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH ENGAGING THE, IN THE COMMUNITY OR THE, UM, THE, THE HOA.
SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST BE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE, WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THAT LAND AND, UM, THAT WITH OUR AMENITIES AND WITH THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO, UM, TO HELP GIVE A, A BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN OURSELVES AND THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT, UM, THAT WE WILL BE, UH, A GREAT ADDITION AND, UM, THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, UH, TO, UM, JUST, UH, HELP, HELP EASE THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM, JUST IN CASE THERE'S QUESTIONS AND I MIGHT COME BACK AND ASK YOU A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, I BROUGHT SOMETHING UP IN THE BEGINNING ABOUT THE 1100 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.
UH, HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU ANTICIPATE BEING THAT SMALL? BECAUSE THE HOUSES BACK BEHIND YOU ARE BIGGER, THE HOUSES ACROSS CENTERVILLE ARE BIGGER AND EVERYTHING.
GRANTED THE ONES GOING ACROSS MILLER, THOSE ARE, I THINK WHAT WE CALL HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY, WHICH ARE SMALLER UNITS, 800 TO 1400 OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, 1300 SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD UNIT TO BUILD.
UM, SO WE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, WITH STAFF DURING THE RECESS MM-HMM.
AND THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION ON WHAT WE PUT ON OUR SITE PLAN.
UM, THE WAY THAT WE INTERPRETED DWELLING SIZE UNIT WAS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND NOT THE LIVABLE AREA.
SO OUR LIVABLE AREA WILL BE 1800 SQUARE FEET.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S A TWO STORY UNIT.
SO, AND THEN IF YOU INCLUDING THE GARAGE, IT'LL, IT'LL BE LARGER THAN THAT.
SO WE WOULD JUST KEEP THE REGULAR ZONING IN THERE.
NO NEED FOR DEVIANCE, UH, DEVIATION ON THE DEAL.
AND ONE QUESTION FROM A PERSONAL NOTE.
'CAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN GETTING THEM REZONED.
THE GIRLS RIDING RANCH BACK BEHIND YOU WILL REMAIN INTACT, CORRECT? YES.
THE, THE HORSE RANCH WILL REMAIN AT THAT.
UH, IS THERE A CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, ANY SORT OF IMPROVEMENT TO MILLER? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE EMPTYING YOUR, ALL OF YOUR EGRESS RELATES TO MILLER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A TWO-WAY STREET.
SO ARE YOU MAKING IMPROVEMENTS
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TO MILLER SO THERE CAN BE TURNS, UH, ACROSS THE STREET AND, AND, AND THE LIKE, OR, UM, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER CAN SPEAK MORE TO, UH, WHAT HE'S DETERMINED SO FAR, UM, IN HIS, HIS INITIAL FINDINGS ON IF HE THINKS THAT WILL BE NECESSARY.BUT, UM, WE WILL MEET ALL, UM, REQUIREMENTS FROM GARLAND'S, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, DEPARTMENT ONCE WE, WE GET TO OUR CIVIL DESIGN.
I THINK, UH, THAT'S IT AND WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.
UH, I HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER, UH, DANIEL BOX, IF YOU, DID YOU CARE TO SAY ANYTHING MATTER? OH, THAT'S FOR THE NEXT MATTER.
I READ THE WRONG ZONING NUMBER.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.
UH, YOU'LL COME DOWN AND THEN YOU CAN GET READY AND, AND AFTERWARDS I'LL ASK YOU TO FILL OUT ONE OF THESE CARDS AND HAND IT TO PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY.
I LIVE AT 1 8 3 3 MEADOW VIEW DRIVE, WHICH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP HERE IS ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT'S DIRECTLY BEING IMPACTED ON THIS.
SO HERE'S THIS, AND MY HOUSE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE.
UM, I DID FILL OUT THE INFORMATION ON YOUR LITTLE CONSOLE OUT THERE.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT'S WORKED FOR US, SO THANK YOU,
SO I, I DO HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS.
UH, FIRST OFF, UH, I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS.
UM, I'VE OWNED MY HOUSE FOR FOUR YEARS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOUSE, UM, WAS I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THAT VACANT LOT, AND I WAS ASSURED THAT THAT WAS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS A DETERMINING FACTOR FOR ME PURCHASING MY HOUSE.
ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THAT, UM, I HAD TWO GRANDSONS LIVE WITH ME AND ONE WENT TO CLUB HILL ELEMENTARY.
THE OTHER WENT TO ONE OF THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOLS.
THERE WAS NO BUSING FOR OUR AREA TO GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
THE SECOND YEAR, THE, THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL MIDDLE SCHOOL STOPPED THE BUSING FOR GOING THERE.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD 90 NEW UNITS THERE, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS AT THAT TIME OF THE MORNING YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FOR PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL? AND I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY DRIVE THEIR CHILDREN TO, TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WITHIN, UM, GARLAND.
UM, I DRIVE DOWN MILLER ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S OUR, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, YOU GET TO THAT CENTERVILLE TURNING RIGHT TO MILLER AND IT'S BACKED UP CONSIDERABLY TO, TO GO THERE.
AND THE SAME THING COMING BACK.
IF YOU'RE GONNA COME DOWN MILLER AND THEN TURN LEFT, THAT TRAFFIC CAN BE BACKED UP.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING 90 UNITS, AND THEN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, YOU MAY ADD AWAY FOR THEM TO EXIT AND THEN, OOPS, SORRY.
AND THEN GO ONTO, UM, MILLER TO GO BACK THE OTHER WAY.
THAT'S JUST GONNA INCREASE AND, AND IT'S GONNA BECOME MORE CONGESTED.
UM, FINALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I HEARD WAS, WELL, WE'RE GONNA ADD PICKLEBALL.
WE'RE GONNA, WELL, THAT'S GOOD FOR THE 90 NEW UNITS.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT US THAT HAVE THAT PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE BRINGING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FOOTPRINT THAN CONDOS, TOWNHOUSES, APARTMENTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IS DIFFERENT, THE PARKING IS DIFFERENT.
AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GREAT IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT US AT ALL.
AND I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL NOISE THAT'S GONNA BE A FACTOR FOR ME.
UM, THE PRIVACY, YOU KNOW, THE SANCE THAT HE'S TALKING, THAT'S JUST ONE LOT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT SIZE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THAT'S THE DEPTH OF ONE LOT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NOT A CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
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I SAW SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE BACK THERE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK.IF YOU'LL COME ON DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE FOR THIS ONE.
OH, JUST WROTE THE WRONG CASE NUMBER.
I WORK AT MARYWOOD RANCH, WHICH IS THE WRITING SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE AREA.
UM, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF LIKE, NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT ALSO THE, WHAT IS IT CALLED, LIKE THE TRAINERS AND SOME OF THE CAMPERS AND THOSE WHO ATTEND THE RIDING SCHOOL THERE.
UM, IT SAYS THE CITY OF GARLAND.
UH, THE PLAN PROPOSED BY THE CITY OF GARLAND NEXT DOOR TO MARY WOOD RIDING SCHOOL SPARKS CONCERN INVOLVING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, THE POTENTIAL AND NEGATIVE INFECT EFFECTS ON THE RIDING SCHOOL ITSELF.
AND FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SAFETY.
WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO A RIDING SCHOOL.
THE STRESS AND ANXIETY CAUSED BY CONSTANT NOISE AND ACTIVITY CAN LEAD TO BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, HEALTH PROBLEMS, AND DECREASED PERFORMANCE.
AND ACTIVITIES SUCH AS RIDING AND TRAINING.
HORSES ARE SENSITIVE ANIMALS THAT CAN EASILY BE STARTED BY LOUD NOISES, UNFAMILIAR SENSE, OR MO AND AND MOVEMENTS.
THE PEACEFUL AND SERENE ATMOSPHERE THAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE WELLBEING OF THE HORSES AND RIDERS COULD BE COMPROMISED BY THE NOISE, TRAFFIC, AND CONGESTION, NOT OFTEN ACCOMPANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE INCREASED POPULATION DENSITY COULD LEAD TO CONFLICTS SUCH AS COMPLAINT ABOUT ODORS, NOISE, OR OTHER ASPECTS OF THE SCHOOL'S OPERATIONS.
FURTHERMORE, THE INCREASED HUMAN PRESENCE BRINGS POTENTIAL OF ACCIDENTS AND CONFLICTS BETWEEN RIDERS AND YOUR RESIDENTS THAT POSE A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO THE SAFETY OF BOTH THE ANIMALS AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING NATURAL AREAS FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION AND CONSERVATION AND BIODIVERSITY CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED.
ONCE THESE GREEN SPACES ARE LOST TO URBAN DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE OFTEN GONE FOREVER AT URGE CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND PROTECT THE CHARACTER INTEGRITY AND VITALITY OF OUR E QUESTIONING COMMUNITY.
AND FINALLY, I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL JUST SEEKS ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT PRESERVE OUR EQUINE HERITAGE, WHILE ALSO MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE GROWING CITY.
WELL DONE IS ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
I LIVE AT 1909 ROYAL CREST DRIVE.
UH, ME AND MY FAMILY, WE JUST MOVED, UH, INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE PICKED IT OUT FOR THE MAIN REASON OF PRIVACY.
UH, WE STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH CHANGING THE ZONE TO MULTI-HOUSING.
THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND GO TO WORK, IT IS PACKED, GETTING OFF OF WORK.
UH, THERE'S NO WAY THAT IF Y'ALL BRING IN 90 HOUSES, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE TRAFFIC IN A GOOD WAY.
AND I, I SEE, I SAW WRECK A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, RIGHT THERE AT MILLER IN CENTERVILLE.
I'M A POSTAL WORKER COMING TO HOME FROM WORK.
JUST THE OTHER DAY I SAW A WRECK AT DEXA AND MILLER.
THE TRAFFIC THERE IS REALLY BAD.
AND THEN THE MAIN THING IS PRIVACY.
THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE JUST BOUGHT THE HOME.
WE BOUGHT IT FOR THE PRIVACY AND MULTI-HOUSING IS GONNA AFFECT THAT.
I DON'T, I, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.
I AM, UH, SUTA RANCH PROPERTIES, AND I, MY WIFE OWNS MARYWOOD RANCH.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS NINE HOBBY LANE, LUCAS, TEXAS.
UH, WE'VE OWNED THAT LAND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THERE'S BEEN FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT IDEAS PROPOSED.
UH, THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST, UH, PROJECT THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S MOVED FORWARD TO THIS POINT FOR SURE.
UH, MARYWOOD RANCH IS NOT IN OPPOSITION TO TO THIS AT ALL.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PROTECTIONS FOR THE HORSES ARE MADE.
UH, THERE WILL BE NO OPENINGS IN THE MARYWOOD RANCH.
UH, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO ISSUES IN TERMS OF MARYWOOD RANCH.
UM, AGAIN, I JUST THINK IT'S A, A GOOD USE.
NOTHING'S EVER GONNA BE PERFECT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD USE OF THE LAND.
I YOU FILL OUT OUR YEAH, YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS? I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT YOU CARE TO.
UH, THE MAIN POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, REGARDING A FEW OF THESE ITEMS, SPECIFICALLY PRIVACY AND, UH, PROXIMITY TO THE HORSE RANCH IS THAT
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IN BOTH CASES, UM, BACKING UP TO OUR NEIGHBORS, WE HAVE CONSIDERABLE GREEN SPACE, UM, HWA SPACE AS A BUFFER.AND UNDER THE PROPOSED ZONING OR THE EXISTING ZONING, RATHER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THAT BUFFER WOULD DISAPPEAR.
SO IF, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, THE, YOU WOULD HAVE LESS PRIVACY IN THOSE HOMES THAT BACK UP TO US.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE, TO THE HORSE RANCH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE BUFFER.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO MAKE THAT POINT.
AND THEN, UH, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR TRAFFIC GENERATION SHOWS THAT IF WE DEVELOP BOTH LOTS UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, THAT THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE WORSE THAN IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ONE.
IF I MAY ELABORATE ON THAT, I'VE GOT YOUR NUMBERS HERE.
UM, IF IT WERE DEVELOPED WITH THE RETAIL AND, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 40 HOMES, UH, YOUR DEVELOPMENT GENERATES TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT FEWER TRIPS DURING THE DAY ACCORDING TO THE, UH, REPORT.
AND, UH, THERE WAS A SECOND SCENARIO WITH A 26,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL STRIP CENTER AND YOUR AND 40 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
AND IT'S STILL 1058 FEWER TRIPS GENERATED ACCORDING TO THE REPORT.
I TAKE IT YOU'RE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER
YEAH, IF YOU CARE TO SAY SOMETHING, I'M HEBERT MM-HMM.
THE NUMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THOSE ARE FOR DAILY TRIPS.
RIGHT? UH, AND IT'S HARD, HARD TO CALCULATE, UH, PEAK HOURS.
SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE DAILY TRIPS AND I DON'T SEE ANY.
IT LOOKS LIKE TURN LANES AND STUFF AND YOUR ONE ENTRANCE WILL LINE UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, IT LOOKS LIKE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT, IT WILL LINE UP WITH THE MEDIAN OPENING.
ANY QUESTIONS? OH, COMMISSIONER PARIS.
I, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT ARE GENERATED.
I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WERE CALLED OUT WAS AROUND THE PEAK HOURS, UH, AM WAS DESCRIBED.
AND DO YOU WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOUR FINDINGS WERE AROUND THOSE PEAK HOURS, UH, WHEN IT'S, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOUSING WITH 90 UNITS AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING WITH 40 UNITS DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS? CERTAINLY.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC SCENARIO DURING THE A MP CAR WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED 90 DWELLING UNIT VERSUS 40 SINGLE FAMILY DETACH UNIT? UH, THE, THE SCENARIO THAT WE WERE GIVEN TO WHERE, WHERE, SO THIS IS, THIS LAND IS SPLIT IN ONE THIRD, TWO THIRD TYPE OF ZONES.
UH, I BELIEVE TWO THIRD ZONE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND ONE THIRD ZONE IS, IS RETAIL.
SO WHEN THEY ARE PLANNING TO DEVELOP 40 SINGLE FAMILY DETACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT, IT WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED ON ONE THIRD LOT WITH SOME SORT OF RETAIL, WHICH I BELIEVE APPLICANT IS INCLINING TOWARDS A GAS STATION WITH 16 FUELING POSITION OR A STRIP RETAIL PLAZA OF 26,000 SQUARE FEET.
WHEN YOU COMBINE THIS TWO, UH, THE, DURING THE A MP CAR, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN CALL SCENARIO ONE FOR 90 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNIT AND ONE WITH THE GAS STATION AS SCENARIO TWO, AND ONE WAY, UH, WITH THE STREET RETAIL IS SCENARIO THREE, THEN UNDER SCENARIO ONE, WHICH IS 90 ING UNITS AND NO RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS, WE WOULD HAVE TOTAL 43 TRIPS ESTIMATED, AND OUT OF WHICH PREDOMINANT WOULD BE EXITING THAT PEOPLE GOING TO WORK OR SCHOOL OR WHATNOT.
SO IN THAT SCENARIO, THE PEAK R PEAK DIRECTION, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE VEHICLE AT EVERY TWO MINUTE COMING OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMPARED THAT TO SCENARIO TWO AND THREE, PEAK R PEAK DIRECTION IS ONE ZERO FOUR HUNDRED AND FOUR AND 43.
SO SCENARIO ONE, THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, 90 DWELLING UNIT IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE LEAST
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AMOUNT OF TRIPS DURING THE P CARS.THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, UPDATE AND JUST BEING SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE ANALYSIS AND STUDY AROUND THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT HAS BEEN RAISED.
I THINK MY, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS NOT NECESSARILY FOR TRAFFIC, BUT BACK TO THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF, UM, THE QUESTION RAISED ABOUT THE BEST USE OF THE LAND.
AND, UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW FROM A, AND I'LL ASK STAFF MAY AND I I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH YOU PRIOR TO HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON BEST USE OF LAND? SO IF YOU DON'T GO WITH THIS PROPOSED, THEN UM, THIS IS THE LAND, JUST SIT THERE OR WE, THERE THIS LAND WILL BE USED AND THIS IS THE BEST USE OF THE LAND.
THIS IS THE PRO PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, UM, BEFORE US FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ON ITS OWN MERITS.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, DON'T GO AWAY YET.
JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON, UH, SOME OF COMMISSIONER PARIS'S QUESTIONS.
UH, YOUR SCENARIO HERE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED INDICATES THAT BY RIGHT, YOU COULD HAVE DEVELOPED THE LAND IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO WE, WE JUST CONSIDERED, UM, WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND IF IT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED TO COME BEFORE THE PLAN COMMISSION THIS EVENING, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT, UH, MATCH THESE SCENARIOS RIGHT NOW IF WE DESIRE TO.
SO THERE WERE, UM, OTHER ALTERNATIVE USES THAT YOU COULD HAVE PROPOSED THAT, UH, COULD HAVE MET THE BEST USE OF LAND, UH, SCENARIO, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS.
BUT YOU'VE TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS IN, UH, THE PROVIDING A, UH, A DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, AMELIORATES AMELIORATES, THAT'S A TOUGH WORD, UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? A CORRECT ASSESSMENT? YES, SIR.
UM, MY CONCERN AND I LIVE, UH, IN, NEAR THAT INTERSECTION, UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORDER OVER ACROSS FROM THE WATER, UH, THE, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO, UH, IS, UH, THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INCREASED TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
UM, UH, COUPLED WITH YOUR APPLICATION AND, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA IN THE COMING YEARS.
I DON'T THINK, UH, WE SHOULD HIDE THE BALL ON THAT.
UM, HOWEVER, I DO, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS EXPERIENCED A HUGE, UH, THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS EXPERIENCED A HUGE POPULATION INCREASE, UH, THAT, UH, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UNFAMILIAR AND THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY WORKING TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
SO, UH, IF ANYTHING, I WANT TO APPLAUD YOUR EFFORT IN AT LEAST COMMUNICATING WITH THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY, AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND GETTING INPUT AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING, UH, SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK.
I THINK ALL OF THOSE SHOULD BE APPLAUDED.
UM, AND I DO THINK THE CITY HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES REGARDING TRANSPORTATION THAT IT MUST ADDRESS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COMMISSIONERS, WE WE'RE IN THE MOTION OR DISCUSSION STAGE, COMMISSIONER PARIS.
I, UM, UH, I, UH, MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IF THERE'S DISCUSSION AMONGST THE, AMONGST THE BOARD.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, PARIS, AND CORNELIUS, YOUR VOTES HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET.
AND THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE JUST IN DISCUSSION MODE.
COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, I'M, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND SO FAR I REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ENOUGH TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD VOTE FOR.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
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I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.COMMISSIONER ROBIN, THANK MR. CHAIR.
UM, A A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS, UM, THIS PROPERTY, AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS NOTED, HAS BEEN THROUGH A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL PLANS.
VARIOUS THINGS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED OVER THE YEARS, VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF THINGS, AND NONE OF THEM HAVE APPARENTLY WORKED OUT.
SO I I, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING HERE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BRING THIS FORWARD AND, AND BREAK GROUND AND BUILD, IT PROBABLY IS GONNA BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USED RATHER, AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR VERY LONG TIME.
UM, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, I MEAN THE, THE, THESE ARE TWO MASSIVE, THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MASSIVE ROADS.
CENTERVILLE IS SIX LANES, AND MILLER IS FOUR LANES.
MILLER'S CAPACITY HERE IS, IF I RECALL FROM, FROM DISCUSSIONS I HAD WITH STAFF BACK WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, MILLER'S CAPACITY IS ABOVE 30,000 CARS A DAY.
AND THE CURRENT, OR THE LAST, UH, TRAFFIC SURVEY ON MILLER, THEN THIS IS DIRECT FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
ANYBODY CAN GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, GARLAND TRAFFIC COUNTS AND YOU GET TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR ALMOST EVERY, CERTAINLY FOR EVERY MAJOR STREET IN THE CITY BROKEN DOWN BY INTERSECTION.
AND FOR MILLER, THE TRAFFIC COUNT BETWEEN CENTERVILLE AND THE EASTERN CITY LIMITS IS 16,685 CARS A DAY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY AT LIKE 50% CAPACITY.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 90 HOMES, 90 HOMES.
I, I, I THINK THAT, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COMING FORWARD.
I THINK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S NUMBERS ARE GENEROUS WITH RESPECT TO HOW MANY TRIPS A DAY 90 HOMES IS GONNA GENERATE ON ONTO MILLER ONTO A ROAD WITH MASSIVE CAPACITY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AT CERTAIN TIMES, YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH A LIGHT SIGNAL, A A LIGHT CYCLE OR, OR WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY SUBSTANTIAL CAPACITY HERE FOR, FOR TRAFFIC AND 90 HOMES AND WITH PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
NOW, I, I THINK THE 684, UM, UH, TRIPS PER DAY IS, IS, IS PROBABLY AN OVERESTIMATE AND A RELATIVE DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO THE CAPACITY OF THIS, OF THIS, THESE ROADWAYS.
UM, SO I, IT, IT, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, AND I UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY A HOME AND YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE GREEN SPACE BEHIND ME OR NEXT TO ME OR WHEREVER, AND, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE THESE DIS WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU BUY YOUR LAND AND SOMEBODY ELSE OWNS THE OTHER LAND AND, YOU KNOW, TELLING OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME, HAS SOME LIMITATIONS.
YOU DON'T BUY THE LAND IN FRONT OF YOU OR NEXT TO YOU OR WHATEVER.
AND SO, UH, IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY OWN THE LAND, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THAT, THAT I DON'T SEE AS IS UNREASONABLE AND SEEMS TO BE THE BEST USE AND SEEMS TO BE THE, AND I COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR REDUCING THE VOLUME OF HOMES, REDU, INCREASING THE BUFFERS, LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS, MAKING CHANGES.
BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEY DONE, HAVE THEY DONE ENOUGH? AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE.
MY THOUGHTS ARE LIVING IN WEST GARLAND WHERE I AM ON A BIG CORNER LIKE THIS AS WELL.
I HAVE MIXED RETAIL ON ALL FOUR CORNERS.
MIXED RETAIL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BRINGS VAGRANCY.
THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOTS.
THERE'S LITERALLY PEOPLE HANGING OUT ALL DAY, ALL HOUR OF THE NIGHT WITH 90 HOMES.
YOU'RE BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE VAGRANCY THAT RETAIL MIGHT BRING TO THE AREA IF YOU PUT A GAS STATION ON THE CORNER, MIXED RETAIL AROUND IT.
AND IF YOU PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU'RE GONNA BE RUNNING INTO THE SAME THING.
THESE ARE JUST DENSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO I, I'M INCLINED TO APPROVE THIS JUST BECAUSE I WOULD WANT THIS ON THE CORNERS OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS WHAT I HAVE NOW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I'LL JUST ADD IN A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
YEAH, I WOULD PREFER 40 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, BUT I KNOW THE BUILDER WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY BEFORE MARY WOOD RANCH ACQUIRED IT, HE TRIED FOR OVER A DECADE THROUGH OTHER BUILDERS THAT HE KNOWS TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE.
AND HE COULDN'T, COULDN'T GET IT DONE.
MARY WOOD RANCH CAME BY AND PICKED IT UP.
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UH, ONE THING COMMISSIONER ABEL POINTED OUT IS WE'RE TAKEN OUT OF THE MIX RETAIL OUTTA THAT WHOLE CORNER.AND SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA HELP THINGS.
AND I DID GO TO THE PRESENTATION MONTHS BACK, UH, COMMISSIONER PARIS IS THERE TOO, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I SAW THEY HAVE MADE, UH, SOME REMARKABLE CHANGES AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS AND CHAIR, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER PARIS.
UM, JUST, UH, TWO MORE THINGS IS I PASS BY IT EVERY DAY IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO I AM, UH, COMPASSIONATE ABOUT THE CONCERNS AROUND THE TRAFFIC.
UM, BUT WHAT I DO TRY TO KEEP IN MIND IS WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF LAND? AND IF ANYTHING'S GONNA GO THERE, IS IT GOING TO HELP? AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE, THE RETAIL COMPONENT WHERE THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
SO, UH, THAT HELPS, UH, WITH THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO.
UM, AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE BEST USE OF LAND AND THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE COMMUNITY, YES, I WAS AT, UH, THE, THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HEARD THE FEEDBACK.
AND, UM, I AM, UM, I AM, UH, IN, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE BEST USE OF THE LAND AND WHAT'S GONNA GO THERE.
'CAUSE IF, IF NOT, THEN, UM, IT COULD BE A, A VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
SO, UM, I AM GOING TO, UM, UH, MAKE A, UH, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE, UM, CLOSE OUR DISCUSSION AND, UM, ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT IS BEFORE US SECOND.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED.
DID YOU WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT? COMMISSIONER JEN, YOU HAD CHIMED IN.
NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PARIS.
AND SAY SUMMARILY, IN MY OPINION, THAT ALL THE FACTORS ARE UNDER 2.06 AND 2.13 HAVE, ARE MET.
UM, I, I DO WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH, WITH EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC LIVING IN THAT AREA, UM, THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IN THE YEARS TO COME THAT I HOPE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THE CITY WILL BE, UH, ABLE TO ADDRESS.
UH, HOWEVER, I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS THE, UH, BEST USE OF LAND FOR THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PART OF THE CITY THAT HASN'T HAD A TRAFFIC IMPACT LATELY.
I USED TO LIVE OUT THERE WE'RE ONE 90 YEARS NOW, SO.
ALRIGHTYY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE.
AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH THERE.
GETTING USED TO THE EQUIPMENT.
[3.c. Consideration of the application of 2916 National, LP., requesting approval of 1) a Change in Zoning from Industrial (IN) District to a Planned Development (PD) District for Industrial Uses and 2) a Detail Plan for Equipment Leasing/Rental, Outdoor Use. This property is located at 2916 and 3002 National Drive. (District 5)]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.THE ONE THAT I CALLED THE GENTLEMAN OUT FOR THAT WASN'T HIS YET CONSIDERATION.
THE APPLICATION OF 29 16 NATIONAL LP REQUESTING APPROVAL AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR INDUSTRIAL.
USES A DETAILED PLAN FOR EQUIPMENT LEASING, RENTAL, OUTDOOR USE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2 9 1 6 AND 3002 NATIONAL DRIVE.
AND TAKE IT THROUGH THE APPLICANT, MR. BOX.
AND, UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS DANIEL BOX AND I'M A ZONING ATTORNEY WITH WINSTED PC OFFICE IS LOCATED 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET IN DALLAS.
UH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
I PULL UP THIS MAP, UH, JUST SHOWING THE AREA, UH, OF THE REQUEST AND ALSO THE SURROUNDING AREA AS WELL.
I DID MY BEST TO MAKE IT LEGIBLE, BUT I'M FEAR THAT I FAILED AND MADE IT A LITTLE TOO COLORFUL.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO SHOWCASE THE AREAS AROUND IT THAT DO HAVE SOME SORT OF OUTDOOR STORAGE COMPONENT.
UH, AND ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET HAS ALL OF ITS LOADING DOCKS LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF ITS SITE.
SO THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF OUR REQUEST.
UH, THE EXISTING ZONING IS IN WE ARE LOOKING TO KEEP THAT AS A BASE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, OR JUST MAKING IT A PD.
THE SITE IS IMPROVED WITH THE BUILDING THAT GOES BACK TO THE 1980S UPON OUR BELIEFS.
AND UPON WHAT DCA SAYS, AN OUTDOOR STORAGE IS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT, AT LEAST AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, IS REALLY TO ALLOW OUTDOOR STORAGE, UH, IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO IN A PARTICULAR AMOUNT, WHICH IS IN EXCESS OF 50% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING ON SITE TODAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT AN SUP.
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LOOKED VERY SERIOUSLY AT THAT ROUTE.IN FACT, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GOING.
BUT IN DISCUSSING WITH STAFF, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO HIT THE AMOUNT OF, OF, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE OUTDOOR STORAGE, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE LOCATION BY MEANS OF THE SUP.
AND SO WE HAD TO DRAW THIS UP WITH THE PD, UH, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING, UH, PRETTY GOOD COMPROMISE BECAUSE WHAT IT ALLOWED US TO DO IS IT ALLOWED US TO ATTACH A SITE PLAN, UH, AND ALSO A LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, HERE TO THIS REQUEST.
AND I'M GONNA GET INTO THAT HERE SHORTLY.
SO THIS IS A VISUAL OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY VISUALLY PLEASING.
I DROVE BY THE SITE, UH, AND ALSO THE SURROUNDING AREA, MY WAY OVER HERE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A BIG BOOST TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THIS LOOKS, UH, I THINK IT'S AN UPGRADE, UH, FROM WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
UH, AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
HERE'S, UH, AN AERIAL RENDERING OF WHAT WE HAD DRAWN UP.
NOW THIS PREDATES, UH, THIS PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE, OF COURSE, THE PINK MOLEYS IN THIS PLAN.
SO WHEN WE DREW THIS UP, THE PINK MOLLIES ARE NOT THERE, BUT THE PINK MOLLIES ARE GONNA BE THERE.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, BUT I DON'T WANTED TO GIVE THIS, UH, A SHOW, 'CAUSE I THINK IT GIVES A GOOD VISUAL OF WHERE THE SITE IS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUILDING IS SET BACK 200 FEET, AND THAT'S REALLY THE TRIGGER FOR THE LOCATIONS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT WE NEED TO REQUEST TODAY.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING WITH AN EXISTING OUTDOOR YARD.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO ESTABLISH THE OUTDOOR STORAGE, WHICH IS AN ALLOWED USE.
UH, JUST IN THE LOCATIONS AND IN THE AMOUNT.
I HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN AQUA OR BLUE, WHATEVER COLOR YOU WANNA CALL THAT.
THAT'LL BE AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE, UH, UH, AN ORNAMENTAL, UM, WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
UH, BUT AROUND ALL SIDES, WE, WE WILL HAVE, UM, OPAQUE MESH, UH, ALONG THE FENCE AS WELL TO KEEP THAT SCREENED.
THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S ARE, THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS ALONG THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A 10 FOOT PEDESTRIAN UTILITY EASEMENT.
THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE HEIGHTENED, UH, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
AND SO IN ORDER TO DO, IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THAT, WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE ACTUALLY PUSHED THE EXISTING FENCE FOR THE SITE INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND WE PUSHED IT BACK ABOUT, UH, JUST OVER EIGHT FEET, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, UH, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, AND SO WE LO WE DID LOSE SOME OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA.
AND THEN ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AREA IN YELLOW.
NOW, THIS IS EXISTING, SO WE DIDN'T GIVE UP ANYTHING AS PART OF THIS REQUEST BEYOND WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING THERE TODAY.
UH, BUT THAT AREA IS LIKE A, I WOULD CALL IT LIKE A QUEUING AREA.
UH, I THINK IT EXISTS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, TRUCKS DON'T QUEUE ONTO THE STREET WHENEVER THEY PULL IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.
UM, BUT THAT OCCUPIES A A, A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF THE SITE THAT IS NOT BEING USED AS OUTDOOR STORAGE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT MAKES, IT EFFECTIVELY PUSHES THE OUTDOOR STORAGE BACK EVEN FURTHER FROM THE STREET, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHAT IT WORKS TO DO IS TO PUSH THE OUTDOOR STORAGE EVEN FURTHER BACK FROM THE STREET AND, UH, VISUALLY DISTANCE IT FROM ANY PASSERSBY.
UH, SO JUST IN CONCLUSION, I, I DON'T HAVE A, A TON MORE TO ADD.
UH, OF COURSE I'LL POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NO OPPOSITIONS.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE QUESTION ABOUT CANOPY TREES.
I KNOW THAT STAFF AND I AND OUR TEAM WORKED VERY CLOSELY ABOUT CANOPY TREES.
WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE CAN CANOPY TREES, BUT THE WAY THAT THIS WORKED OUT IS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THE PEDESTRIAN UTILITY EASEMENT, AND THE ENHANCED SCREENING THAT WE ARE PROVIDING.
WE FELT THAT BY INCORPORATING CANOPY TREES WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE UPPER 'CAUSE, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO, WOULD ACTUALLY SERVE TO INTERRUPT THE SCREENING EFFECT THAT WE THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF ACCOMPLISHING HERE.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THEIR, UH, LACK OF INCLUSION.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, I'VE GOT NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? UH, I JUST HAD THE ONE THAT I HAD IN THE BEGINNING.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON STORING ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING? NO, NOT AT ALL.
YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE INCORPORATED INTO THE PD THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO, UH, SPEAK TO THIS CASE? COME ON DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
I'M, UH, WITH THE MILLER CREEK, UH, INVESTMENT.
UH, JUST THE 3 1 0 1 MILLER ROAD.
UH, MY TENANT IS MAXIMUM MODEL JUST ACROSS THE STREET.
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TRUCK PARKING ON THE STREET ISSUE LAST COUPLE YEARS.WE CALLED A COUPLE TIMES TO THE CITY, CITY, HELPED US TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN IF THE TRUCK CAN GO INSIDE THE STORAGE.
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M TO STRONGLY AGAINST IT.
FIRST, IF THAT STORAGE COMPLETE, WILL ALL THE TRUCK GO INTO THE STORAGE? NOTHING PARK ON THE STREET.
SECOND, IS THAT GONNA CAUSE TRAFFIC PROBLEM? AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE, MY TENANT CURRENTLY, THEY USE THE LOADING DOCK FRONT, AT THE FRONT, BUT THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO USE A SIDE DOCK 'CAUSE THEY LEASE THE, THE BUILDING AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT.
AS A LANDLORD, I, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF THIS HAPPENS, THAT WILL CAUSE THE TRAFFIC.
THEY CANNOT USE A LOADING DOCK ON THE, ON THEIR, UH, EAST SIDE.
AND, UH, SEC UH, THIRDLY, I'M HAVING SOME SAFETY CONCERN.
IF, UH, THEY HAVE A TRUCK GO IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT GONNA BE A LOT OF TRUCK GOING IN AND OUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE A, HOW TO SAY, MASSIMO HAS LIKE A 200 EMPLOYEES.
THEY, UM, DURING THE BASIC TIME, THEY NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE TO GO IN AND OUT WITHOUT ANY STOP.
AND THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERN.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I EXPRESS MYSELF CLEARLY.
WELL, I THINK WE HAVE SOME STAFF INPUT HERE FOR YOU.
WE DO WANNA CLARIFY WHICH CASE YOU MIGHT BE RESPONDING TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMMENTS ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT CASE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
YEAH, THIS IS THE ONE ON NATIONAL DRIVE, CORRECT? OH, I'M SORRY.
OH, OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE KING ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO VISION TOO.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS CASE? I'D ASK YOU BACK UP, BUT IT WASN'T CONCERNING YOU SO
YOU SEEN THIS OTHER THERE? NO OTHER SPEAKERS COMMISSION? I HAVE COMMISSIONER BIN.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS AS SECOND
SECOND, AND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOND, AND IT'S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH INCLUSION THAT NO, NONE OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE PARKED OUT IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING.
AND THAT PASSAGE A UNANIMOUSLY.
[3.d. Consideration of the application of OSI 1602 Kings Rd, LLC., requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Truck/Bus Storage Use 2) a Concept Plan for a Truck/Bus Storage Use and 3) a Development Variance for a complete waiver of a landscaping provision preventing fencing from being in the landscape buffer. This property is located at 1602 Kings Road. (District 6)]
ITEM ON OUR CASE IS ITEM 3D AND THAT IS CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF OSI 1602 KINGS ROAD LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE.USE A CONCEPT PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE, AND A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE FOR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF THE LANDSCAPING PROVISION, PREVENTING FENCING FROM BEING IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
EXCUSE ME, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1602 KINGS ROAD, MAXWELL FISHER.
CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV.
MY ADDRESS IS 2 5 0 2 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0.
I'M REPRESENTING ALURA STORAGE INVESTMENTS.
UM, WE ARE EXCITED TO PRESENT TWO DIFFERENT SUP REQUESTS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST REQUEST IS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, SOUTHERN HALF OF THIS LOT.
BUT, UM, THIS, THIS LOT HAS HISTORICALLY CONTINUES TO BE USED AS AN OVERFLOW TRAILER STORAGE, UH, LOT, UH, FOR COSTCO WHOLESALE.
COSTCO WHOLESALE, UM, HAS A VERY LARGE FACILITY HERE, UM, OVER 870,000 SQUARE FEET OF AREA.
UM, THEY DISTRIBUTE LARGE, BULKY ITEMS FROM COSTCO.
SO IF YOU BUY A, AN APPLIANCE OR A FURNITURE, IT'S LIKELY COMING FROM THIS FACILITY.
UM, THEY, THEY SERVE SIX STATES.
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UM, SO THE, THE USE OF THIS ADJACENT LOT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, THE, IT FLUCTUATES IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF, OF TRAILERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE KEPT THERE.AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS CONSOLIDATE AND, AND STILL HAVE THE, THE LEASE AS, AS WE HAVE IT IN PLACE TO, TO SERVE COSTCO.
THERE'S A CERTAIN MINIMUM NUMBER OF, OF TRAILER SPACES THAT WE HAVE MUST PROVIDE THEM.
UM, AND THEN MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE LAND IN THE NORTH TO BETTER SERVE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THAT REQUEST LATER.
UM, WAS, UH, SOME COMMENTS IN THE PLANNING STAFF REPORT THAT I DIDN'T, WASN'T QUITE, DIDN'T QUITE FOLLOW IN IN TERMS OF THE, THE VALUE, UM, OF THE REVENUE.
I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS TAX VALUE, IF IT WAS LIKE INCOME OR REVENUE, BUSINESS REVENUE.
UM, BUT I SEE THIS PROPERTY SOUTHERN HALF AT THE VERY LEAST AS AN EXTENSION OF THE COSTCO WHOLESALE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS ISN'T APPROVED, WHO'S TO SAY THEY DON'T LEAVE AND FIND A PROPERTY THAT'S LARGER IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND THEY PROVIDE OVER SEVEN, YOU KNOW, 650 GRAND A YEAR ALONE, PLUS OUR SITE OVER 700 GRAND.
SO THE COSTCO SITE'S 12,300 PER ACRE PER YEAR.
I MEAN, IT'D BE HARD TO FIND A TAX BENEFIT.
UM, AND SO I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE LOGIC BEHIND DENYING SOMETHING BASED ON SOME VALUE.
MOREOVER, GOVERNMENT WOULD NEVER KNOW THE VALUE OF PROPERTY ANYWAY OR WHAT, WHAT THE VALUE IS OF, I'D SAY THE VALUE OF A BUSINESS.
THE BUSINESS REVENUE, THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR STORAGE, IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
I THINK THAT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A STATEMENT READ ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
INDUSTRIAL AREA INCLUDES MINI DISTRIBUTION AND, UM, WHOLESALE USES IN ADDITION TO, TO INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING USES.
SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE A LOT OF STORAGE LOTS EITHER AS AN ANCILLARY COMPONENT OR, UM, STANDALONE, UM, IN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHERE WOULD YOU ALLOW IT? EXISTING CONDITIONS, IT'S PARTIALLY GRAVEL, PARTIALLY PAVED.
UM, THERE'S NO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THERE'S 198 TRAILER SPACES USED BY COSTCO.
UH, WE HOPE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THESE THINGS WITH THIS REQUEST.
IF IT'S APPROVED, THIS KINDA GIVES YOU A O BLEAK VIEW OF THE SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN PARCEL.
THE SOUTHERN PARCEL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
UM, WE WOULD RETAIN AND WE WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY 15 LESS TRAILER PARKING SPACES.
SO 183 PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTHERN AREA WOULD BE DEVOTED TO, TO COSTCO.
SO WITH THIS REQUEST, WE WOULD BE DOING A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG MILLER.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON MILLER EITHER DIRECTION.
SO WE'D BE SORT OF THE, I'D SAY CATALYST, BUT WE'RE SORT OF SETTING AN EXAMPLE FOR PROVIDING SOME SIDEWALK ALONG THERE.
UM, ALSO STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LACK OF STORMWATER.
WE'RE DOING A STORMWATER SYSTEM ON THE SOUTH END ON MILLER.
UM, AND THEN WE BE PAVING THE ENTIRE SITE AND THEN DOING LANDSCAPING AS WELL.
THIS IS THE CURRENT, SORRY ABOUT THE WORDING THERE.
UM, THE, THIS IS THE EXISTING LOOK ON MILLER ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SPORADIC SHRUBS THAT DON'T REALLY SCREEN VERY WELL.
UM, AND THEN A COUPLE TREES AND THAT'S IT.
AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST, WE'D BE DOING A COMBINATION OF ORNAMENTAL TREES AND LARGE, UH, LARGE CANOPY TREES, UH, AND ALSO SOME SHRUBS, UM, TO COMPLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING CODE.
UM, THERE WAS A, IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE'S ALSO MENTION ABOUT MOVING THE FENCE BACK.
'CAUSE THE FENCE IS SPLITTING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS INFEASIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S UTILITIES, THERE'S UTILITIES, OVERHEAD UTILITIES THERE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, GO TO THE SITE AND STUDY IT, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE BACK, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT OUR LARGE CANOPY TREES UNDER THAT OVERHEAD POWER LINE.
SO EVEN IF WE WERE COM TO COMPLY WITH CODE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
SO WE WANNA KEEP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WHERE IT IS.
UM, WE DON'T, WE THINK THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS THE, THE LEASE OF THIS PROPERTY'S, UM, MORE REASON WHEN IT COMES TO AESTHETICS.
WE THINK ADDING, PUTTING THE MONEY IN THE, IN LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, UM, THE SIDE IS REALLY WHERE YOU SHOULD PUT THE MONEY.
BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE WITH THE, BY LEAVING THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WHERE IT IS, WE WOULD TAKE OUT THOSE SHRUBS AND WE WOULD DO ORNAMENTAL TREES IN THE FRONT THERE.
'CAUSE WE COULD PUT THE ORNAMENTAL TREES UNDER THAT OVERHEAD LINE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD DO THE LARGE TREES IN THE BACK.
SO THE LARGE TREES ARE SET BACK WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THEM.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE LOW STORY, LOW LEVEL COVER WOULD BE IN THE FRONT.
AND WE THINK THAT THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
THE FACT THAT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REALLY IMMATERIAL.
WE STILL MEET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT
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OF THE STANDARDS WHERE IT IS.IF WE HAD TO MOVE THAT OR RELOCATE THAT CHAIN LINK FENCE, THAT WOULD BE, UH, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WE THINK OF MONEY THAT NOT WELL SPENT.
I WILL ALSO ADD THAT ANY YEAR INDUSTRIAL AREAS, SECTION 4.43 B ALLOWS CHAIN LINK FENCING IN, IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
SO, UM, THIS IS NOT NON-CONFORMING IN TERMS OF JUST ALLOWING A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
UM, MOREOVER, SECTION 30.202 B TWO ALLOWS BARB WIRE FENCING IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
NOW THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE BARB WIRE FENCING.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THIS EXACT FENCE MEETS EVERY SPECIFICATION, BUT WE'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT AN ILLEGAL FENCE IN, IN MOST, IN MOST, MOST CHARACTERISTICS OF THE FENCE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT'S ALLOWED IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
YES, BARB WIRE AND CHAIN LINK IS NOT ALLOWED IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, BUT THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
THIS DOESN'T SHOW YOU, THIS SHOWS YOU THAT THE STORM WATER AND THE FENCE AND SOME OF THE UTIL EASEMENTS WE'RE DEALING WITH, THERE'S A GAS EASEMENT, LIKE I SAID, OVERHEAD POWER LINES.
WE'D BE PUTTING IN THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AS WELL.
THIS JUST SHOWS YOU, UH, TONS OF TRUCK PARKING.
IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT IN THE AREA, THERE'S SEMI-TRUCKS EVERYWHERE.
IT'S THE NATURE OF DISTRIBUTION AND WHOLESALE USES.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF TRUCK PARK PARKED.
AND IT'S NOT JUST, SO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAILER TRUCK PARKING.
YOU SEE, THERE'S THE IDLING WHERE THE, WHERE THE, THE TRUCK DRIVER'S ACTUALLY IN THE TRUCK.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE EITHER SLEEPING FOR THE NIGHT OR THEY'RE WAITING TO UNLOAD BECAUSE THEY DRIVE, THEY GET TO THEIR SITE TO LOAD AND UNLOAD AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT LOAD TO BE READY.
AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS THIS IDLING TIME THAT A SEMI-TRUCK DRIVER HAS TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK.
WE CAN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS ALL THAT.
THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
NOW THERE'S OTHER ISSUES GOING ON WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING TRAILERS.
THEY'RE PARKING TRAILERS ON, ON THE STREET, LITERALLY LIKE JUST THE TRAILER.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE HOPE TO ADDRESS ON THE NORTHERN LOT WHEN I'LL GET, I'LL GET INTO IT A BIT, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST ON THE SOUTHERN LOT WITH THE COSTCO IS WE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO LEASE WITH COSTCO AND AT LEAST KEEPS THE COSTCO TRUCKS OFF, OFF, OFF THE STREET.
MOREOVER, IF IT'S A PRIMARY USE BY SUP, THAT GIVES US OPTIONS GOING FORWARD.
IF COSTCO EVER, UM, MOVED OUT OR, YOU KNOW, UH, TERMINATED THEIR LEASE WITH US, THEN WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE, WE COULD SERVE ANOTHER USER IN THE AREA AND WE MAY GET ADDRESS SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THE STREET.
SO WE THINK IT'S, IT'S AN AMENITY.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE THINK IT MEETS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN TO NEARLY TO A T.
UM, WE SEE THIS, WE SEE, WE SEE STORAGE AND, AND REPAIR AS AN AMENITY, UM, WHERE WE WOULD BE BEAUTIFYING THIS SITE, UH, WITH OUR PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, UM, AND SCREENING.
UM, IT ALSO SAYS TO EVALUATE AND MOVE ON POTENTIAL OPS FOR TRUCK STAGING AND PARKING.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS ACTION.
UM, AND THEN ALSO EVALUATE OPTIONS FOR STORM WATER AND FLOOD MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE ARE DOING BY ADDING A STORM WATER SYSTEM TO ADDRESS THAT.
THE STORM WATER ISSUES WE HAVE HERE, THERE'S A LONG-TERM LEASE ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, IF YOU KNOW THIS, THIS WILL BE USED AS A TRUCK TRAILER STORAGE REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE TONIGHT.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR SEVERAL, UH, FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND THERE'S LEASE IS 13 YEARS LEFT ON THE LEASE.
SO, UM, WE THINK THAT APPROVING THIS SUP FORMALIZES, IT, UH, MAKES IT LEGIT AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE GET.
UM, AND WE THINK THAT ALIGNS WITH THE ECONOMIC STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, WITH THE FACTORS I MENTIONED, IT'S A MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE LAND.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME LAND USE THAT'S THERE, WE'RE JUST MOVING IT ONLY TO ON THE SOUTHERN HALF AND ADDING ANOTHER AMENITY ON THE NORTH HALF, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO LATER.
AND I, I SEE THIS AS THIS, AGAIN, AS AN EXTENSION OF COSTCO WHOLESALE, WHICH IS A HUGE EMPLOYER.
I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER WORK THERE, BUT THAT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HUGE TAX NUMBER FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP, KEEP THEM IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA BY APPROVING THIS REQUEST.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF LEGAL AND EVERYTHING.
UM, THIS ARE TWO SEPARATE CASES HERE, BUT IT'S HARD TO EVALUATE 'EM IN ISOLATION.
CAN WE HEAR BOTH CASES AND, UH, DO SEPARATE MOTIONS? NO, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE EVALUATED ON THEIR OWN MERITS SEPARATELY.
I FIND THAT HARD TO DO AND IT WOULD LEAVE ME TO MORE OF A NEGATIVE OPINION ON ONE THAN WOULD THE OTHER UNLESS THEY WORK TOGETHER, BUT, OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS MR. FISHER? UM, HOW, HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD APPROXIMATELY, HOW MANY TRUCKS COULD PARK ON THAT SOUTHERN PORTION?
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IT HAS CAPACITY FOR 180 3, BUT IT FLUCTUATES.THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN THERE'S LESS, LESS TRUCKS.
SO COSTCO, BASED ON WHAT THEY, THEY TOLD US IS THAT IT, WE HAVE A, A HIGH, UM, A A PEAK OF AROUND JUST AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME.
SO IT KIND OF, IT DEPENDS ON PE WHEN PEOPLE ARE BUYING.
SO THEY PARK ON THE GRAVEL AND DIRT TOO.
'CAUSE THE PICTURES WE'VE SEEN SHOW 'EM JUST ON THE CONCRETE TODAY, THEY, THEY PARK, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S TRAILERS PARKED ON BOTH THE GRAVEL AND THE, AND THE PAVEMENT AREA.
AND SO IF IT'S ALL PAVED ON THE SOUTHERN END, THEN THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY PARK IN A MORE, A LITTLE MORE CONSOLIDATED AREA.
AND SEE IF I WERE ALLOWED TO COMBINE, I MIGHT ASK HOW MANY TRUCKS YOU COULD PARK IN THE NORTHERN PORTION, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT.
I THINK I SHOWED A SLIDE THAT HAD THAT INFORMATION, SO I WON'T SAY ANYTHING.
A HUNDRED THIRTY THREE, A HUNDRED THIRTY THREE THERE.
COMMISSIONER ABEL AND THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
UM, ONE OF YOUR PICTURES SHOWED TRAILER PARKING ON KINGS ROAD.
UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT IS PROHIBITED IN THE CITY, CORRECT? UNLESS THEY'RE LOAD, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS.
OVERNIGHT PARKING WOULD BE PROHIBITED, BUT IF THEY'RE LOADING, UNLOADING, UM, THEY'RE THERE TO RIGHT.
IF THEY WERE DROPPING ONE TRAIL OR PICKING IT UP, COMING BACK.
BUT THAT'S A TEMPORARY MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW THEY PULL UP STAY IN THE TRUCK AND WAITING TO GO IN TO UNLOAD.
THAT WOULD BE, I'M, I'M SPEAKING OF NO TRACTOR TRAILER SPECIFICALLY DROPPED ON KINGS ROAD.
UM, THAT, THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE IT'S A CODE OR A MARSHAL SITUATION OR A POLICE SITUATION WHERE THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
IS THAT IN PARTICULAR, THIS ENGLAND TRAILER HERE, IS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH COSTCO AT THE TIME OR DO WE KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE OF COSTCO OR IS THAT, I I'M NOT, I I HIGHLY DOUBT IT BECAUSE COSTCO HAS THE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT HUGE LOT FOR SURPLUS PARKING.
SO I, I CAN'T DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU WHO BELONGED THAT TRAILER, WHO OWNS THAT TRAILER, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT TRAILER.
BUT I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF IT'S COSTCO.
I, I, THAT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
I I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE BECAUSE I PARK IN MY STREET WITH MY TRAILER JUST TO RUN INTO THE HOUSE AND I'VE GOT A MARSHAL HITTING ME.
SO I, I LITERALLY CAN'T FATHOM THAT WE'VE GOT A TRAILER SITTING THERE WITH NO TRACTOR FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE NOT RELATED TO YOUR SPECIFIC USE.
AND I THINK THE NATURE OF, OF KINGS ROAD, IT'S, IT'S A VERY WIDE STREET, BUT IT'S NOT SUPER BUSY.
UM, AND IT, THERE ARE SEMIT, SEE THERE'S, I TOOK THIS ON SUNDAY, SEMI TRUCKS AND, AND TRAILERS PARKED UP AND DOWN KINGS.
UH, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S LEGAL OR LEGAL, I'M JUST NO, I, I'M, I KNOW WHY THEY PARKED THERE.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S ACCOMMODATING.
IT'S, IT'S, THE CONCERNS THAT I SEE FROM THE COMMUNITY THOUGH ARE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S RELATED TO YOU OR COSTCO OR ANYBODY ELSE.
IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM IN THE AREA.
YEAH, WELL, THERE'S A TON OF DISTRIBUTION.
IT'S, IT'S SORT OF THE, IT'S THE BYPRODUCT OF SUCCESS OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRIBUTION AND WHOLESALING USES.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU START DRIVING THROUGH THERE, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY BUSINESSES THERE ARE.
THERE'S A TON AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THIS AREA.
ON THE OTHER HAND, TRUCKS ARE HERE, THEY'RE NOT ELSEWHERE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE AMENITIES IN THE DISTRICT TO KEEP TRUCK TRAFFIC OUTSIDE OF WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE.
UH, IS THERE ANY REPAIR USE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST? NO, THIS WOULD BE STRICTLY TRAILER PARKING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHTY, UH, I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOMEBODY WE SHOULD SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
DID YOU WANNA COME BACK DOWN,
AND AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA NEED THE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
MEHAN MILLER CREEK INVESTMENT.
THE BUILDING ADDRESS IS, UH, 3 1 0 1 MILLER ROAD.
AGAIN, WE, WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IT IS NOT ADDING THE PROBLEM.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THOSE TRAILER AND THE TRUCK PARKING ON KINGS ROAD SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, OUR, LIKE
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A TENANT CANNOT EVEN GO INTO THE, TO THE FACILITY, UH, MASSIMO THREE ONE ZERO ONE MILLER.SO WE CALL MARSHALL, THEY TRY TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TAG THEM, TICKET THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST CONCERNED IF THEY HAVE A OFFICIAL, LIKE A TRAILER PARKING THERE WILL ADDING ON THE PROBLEM.
AND YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T KNOW THE FENCE SITUATION, IF THEY HAVE A FENCE, THEY WILL STILL HAVE A INSTRUCTED ENTRANCE.
RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY, YEAH, HE HE'LL ANSWER THAT FOR WHEN IT COMES BACK.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT COSTS SAFETY, YOU KNOW, IF IS NO LANDSCAPING, NO LIKE A FENCE, I'M CONCERNED THAT THEY HAVE SEVERAL WAY OUT THAT WILL CAUSE SAFETY ISSUE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? TO ADDRESS HER QUESTIONS? SO WE WOULD BE ASKING TO KEEP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND ADD LANDSCAPING TO IT.
UM, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE GATES TO SECURE THE, THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE WOULD NOT BE TAKING AWAY THE FENCE.
UM, AND TO ADDRESS HER QUESTION, WE'RE NOT EITHER ONE OF THESE REQUESTS TONIGHT ARE ADDING ANY TRUCK TRAVEL.
I MEAN, I SAY TRAVEL, NO, WE'RE NOT GENERATING TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, WHOLESALE USES, MANUFACTURING USES DISTRIBUTION, GENERATE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
WE'RE CAPTURING IT, WE'RE CAPTURING THE TRAFFIC EITHER THROUGH THE NEXT REQUEST OR OR STORING THE, THE TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY COMING TO WHOLESALE, THE WHOLESALE COSTCO WHOLESALE.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION OUT THERE.
UM, WITH THESE USES, WE'RE NOT GENERATING, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS THAT GENERATES THE, THE TRUCKS.
UM, AND EVEN THE NEXT REQUEST, I'LL ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
SO HOPEFULLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ABEL, FOR HER SAKE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COMBINED PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE ENTRANCE? MM-HMM.
UM, I BELIEVE I SAW ONE RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU SHOW KINGS ROAD, THE ENTRANCE ON KENMORE.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ENTRANCES ANYWHERE BESIDES THE ONE THERE IN THE MIDDLE ON KINGS ROAD? YEAH, KENMORE AND THEN UP NORTH.
UH, YEAH, WE HAVE THE MA WE HAVE THE ONE ACROSS FROM KENMORE STREET AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT FOR THE TRUCK REPAIR STORAGE.
BUT YOU SPECIFICALLY WON'T BE ADDING ANYTHING ELSE.
EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS LIKE THIS? YEAH.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, ANOTHER, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT ON THE FAR NORTH END AS WELL, SO YEAH, THAT'S IT.
THOSE, THOSE ARE THE TWO? YES.
YOU'VE GOT ONE ON KENMORE ADJACENT YEP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MOTION TO APPROVE OR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
DID, DID YOU WANT TO ADD IN? OKAY.
OH, OH NO, THAT WASN'T STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
I'M SO USED TO, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
PARDON? THAT'S FOR THE NORTH PARCEL? NO, THIS IS, UH, SOUTH PART, THIS IS FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DENY THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS FOR THE, SO IF THIS IS REPAIR, THIS IS NOT STORAGE.
I THINK WE SHOULD CLARIFY THE CASE NUMBER WE'RE DISCUSSING.
UH, WE ARE DISCUSSING, UH, FI FILE Z 24 DASH 22, WHICH IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN FOR TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE, SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK AND BUS STORAGE AND A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE FOR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF LANDSCAPING PROVISION.
IS MAKER OF THE MOTION WANTING TO APPROVE ALL OF THAT? YES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR BECAUSE 20, UM, 24 DASH, I JUST LOST IT.
UH, 24, 24 DASH 22 STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY, BUT YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE.
SO WE'RE NOT APPROVING BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
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NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY BAD.I'M JUST, I'M JUST RE DOUBLE CHECKING.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, YOUR VOTE DIDN'T TAKE, THAT'S SIX ONE WITH COMMISSIONER ROBERTS IN OPPOSITION.
[3.e. Consideration of the application of OSI 1602 Kings Rd, LLC., requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Truck/Bus Repair Use & Truck/Bus Storage Use on a property zoned Industrial (IN) District and 2) a Concept Plan for a Truck/Bus Repair Use & Truck/Bus Storage Use and 3) a Development Variance for a complete waiver of a landscaping provision preventing fencing from being in the landscape buffer. This property is located at 1602 Kings Road. (District 6)]
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND STATE THE ZONING CASE NUMBER FILE DASH Z 24 DASH 23.AND THIS IS JUST ABOVE THIS OTHER ONE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF OSI 1602 KINGS ROAD LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK BUS REPAIR OR USE, AND A TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS REPAIR USE AND TRUCK BUS STORAGE USE, AND A DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE FOR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF A LANDSCAPE PROVISION PREVENTING FENCING FROM BEING IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO AT 1602 KINGS ROAD, BUT IT IS NORTHERN SECTION OF THAT PROPERTY CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER MAXWELL FISHER ZONE DEV 2 5 0 2 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, UH, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0.
SAME APPLICANT, SAME PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THIS REQUEST IS THE NORTHERN HALF, ROUGHLY.
WE'D BE PROPOSING A 13,400 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE AND MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
UM, THERE'D BE 28 STANDARD PARKING SPACES FOR, UM, EMPLOYEES AND ANY VISITORS, UM, TO THE REPAIR FACILITY.
AND THERE'D BE 133 TRAILER PARKING SPACES.
AND THOSE TRA TRAILER PARKING SPACES WOULD BE, UM, WE WOULD HOPE TO RENT, LEASE THIS OUT TO AN OPERATOR WHO WOULD ALLOW THE STORAGE, UM, OF, OF TRAILERS FOR A FEE FOR THAT OTHER PORTION.
AND IT WOULD PARTIALLY, POTENTIALLY STORE, UM, VEHICLES WAITING TO BE REPAIRED.
THESE ARE THE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES.
THAT'D BE A NATIONAL TRUCKING COMPANY, NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION COMPANY WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, POTENTIALLY INTERESTED IN, IN FOR THEIR OWN FLEET, OR IT COULD BE, UM, IT, IT COULD BE A, UM, SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY HANDLES, UM, RETAIL SERVICE OF, OF TRUCK OR A COMBINATION THEREOF.
UM, SO IT MAY SERVE THEIR OWN FLEET, BUT THEN THEY MAY ALSO, UM, SERVE OTHER, OTHER TRUCKS.
UM, AND WE HOPED THAT WOULD HELP WITH COMPETITION.
UM, UH, ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS ACTUALLY OWNS A TRUCKING COMPANY FROM FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND HE, HE WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR SERVICE AND REPAIR.
SO HAVING ANOTHER SERVICE AND REPAIR BUSINESS, BUT JUST HELP WITH KEEPING THE COST DOWN.
UM, THESE ARE JUST MORE POTENTIAL TENANTS.
UM, JUST SO YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY INDUSTRIAL USERS ARE IN THE AREA THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY, UM, FIND THIS PROPERTY ATTRACTIVE? UM, FOR REPAIR, THIS IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING.
AGAIN, IT HAS A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ISN'T EXACTLY WHERE YOU WOULD MA MAYBE PUT IT IF YOU'RE REBUILDING THE SITE, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS.
THERE IS ROOM FOR LANDSCAPING.
BE IN FRONT OF IT AND BEHIND IT.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD PLAN ON BUILDING.
WELL, SO KING'S, KING'S, UH, ROAD VIEW SOUTH, THERE'S A DI THE DISTANCE, THERE'S A BIG DISTANCE, UH, BETWEEN THE STREET CURB AND, AND, AND THE CHAIN LINK FENCE.
SO HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING, UM, WHICH WOULD BE LARGE CANOPY TREES, UM, IN FRONT OF THE FENCE.
AND THEN BEHIND THE FENCE WE WOULD DO CLUSTERS OF ORA METAL, UM, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE ENTIRE KINGS ROAD.
THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT CLUSTERS OF ORNAMENTAL ALONG THERE TO TRY TO BLOCK SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL, MID TO HIGH LEVEL, UM, TRAILER PARKING AREA THERE.
AGAIN, WE WENT OVER THESE A MINUTE AGO.
WE THINK THAT WE'RE ADDING IN A AMENITY.
WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A TRUCK REPAIR IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA NEAR THE TRUCKS VERSUS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST DRY DRAWING TRUCKS OUT AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, INCREASED MILES, UM, AND, AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADS.
SO IT'S, IT IS AN AMENITY AND, UM, RE IMPROVING THE AESTHETICS AND ALSO, UM, STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE THINK OF THE LINES WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN CLOSELY.
UM, SO WE, WE THINK THIS, I MENTIONED THIS WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAILER STORAGE, UM, ISSUES WITH THE, WITH THE LOT ITSELF, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE REPAIR.
SO WE THINK WE'RE ADDRESS HELPING TO ADDRESS THAT AS BEST WE CAN.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, IT KEEPS COST COMPETITIVE.
UM, AND WE THINK THAT, UM, GRANTING THE SUVS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE KEEPING IT AS IS IS
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NOT THE BEST USE OF THE LAND.AND REALLY ADDING ANOTHER USE TO THE NORTHERN LOT REALLY ADDS VALUE AND ADDS TAX VALUE.
SO, UM, WE THINK THIS REQUEST COMPLIES REALLY WELL WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THIS REPAIR ISN'T APPROVED HERE, THEN WHERE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
SO I'LL STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL ASK IF, UH, ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UH, MAX, THE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED A SHORTER SUP AND LIMITATIONS ON HOURS OF OPERATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I DO.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIME LIMITS FOR SUP AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S A FORMULA, THERE'S SORT OF A CHART THAT YOU GO BY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHART OR IF THE CITY TOOK IN INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT IT COSTS TO GET A LOAN APPROVED.
NOT COST WHAT, WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR GETTING A LOAN APPROVED FOR A NEW BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AN SA SHORTER SUP WORKS LIKE FOR A RETAIL BUILDING WHERE YOU'RE BACKFILLING A SPACE SO YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS UPFRONT.
AND SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET A LOAN AND GET BY WITH A, YOU KNOW, A FIVE OR 10 YEAR SUP.
BUT FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, MEANING YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON, UM, BUILDING AND, AND PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORM WATER, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S HARD TO GET A LOAN FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN 30 TO 40 YEARS.
UH, WE DEAL WITH THIS ON SELF-STORAGE BUILDINGS, UH, WHERE IF YOU HAVE AN SUP REQUEST AND THEY TRY TO LIMIT YOU TO 20 YEARS, IT KILLS THE PROJECT.
SO WE, WE CAN 30, WE CAN LIVE WITH 35.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
I THINK IF THIS IS IN A TRANSITION AREA AND THE CITY WANTED TO EVALUATE, OH, LET'S, LET'S ALLOW IT NOW, BUT WE THINK IT'S GONNA TRANSITION TO, TO SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS ISN'T THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
AND IT'S WELL NORTH OF MILLER.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE AT LEAST 35 YEARS WITH THIS REQUEST AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPERATOR SO PICKED OUT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, AND SO WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, IT'S LIKELY GONNA BE BUSINESS HOURS AND PROBABLY SOME ON THE WEEKEND.
'CAUSE WITH TRAILER WITH TRUCKS, THEY OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UM, OPERATION HOURS ALL SEVEN DAYS.
ARE THEY GONNA OPERATE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OPERATE? UH, NO, PROBABLY NOT, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANNA LIMIT IT.
THERE ALSO AREN'T ANY, ANY USES IN THAT AREA THAT YOU WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A LAND USE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE HERE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ELSEWHERE IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY OR OTHER, UM, USES THAT ARE, COULD BE COMPATIBLE SITUATION.
SO, UM, WE'D LIKE TO NOT LIMIT THE HOURS GIVEN THE LOCATION AND THE NATURE OF THE USE.
HELLO? I, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW ON THAT LAST QUESTION JUST TO MAKE A CLEAR POINT THAT IF THE HOUR, SO THIS IS INCLUDES TRAILER STORAGE, MEANING THAT SOMEONE'S GONNA BE, THEY'RE DRIVING IN, THEY'RE DROPPING, UH, THEY'RE DROPPING THE TRAILER AND OFF THEY GO.
AND IF AND IF THEY CAN'T, WELL, I MEAN THAT'S ONE SCENARIO.
AND IF THEY CAN'T GET IN BECAUSE IT'S CLOSED AND IT DOESN'T OPEN UNTIL 7:00 AM WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY? RIGHT, THEY'RE PARKED.
AM I CORRECT? I MEAN, THEY'RE PARKED ON THE STREET.
WAITING FOR QUEUED UP, WAITING FOR THE FACILITY TO OPEN FOR THEM TO DROP THE LOAD.
OR MAYBE THEY'RE AT A TRUCK STOP, UH, DOWN AT THE TRUCK CAR WASH.
WHAT'S THAT PLACE CALLED? BUT YES, VERY CLEARLY NOT A TRUCK STOP.
APPARENTLY WE, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION A FEW MONTHS AGO.
WELL, THERE'S DIESEL, DIESEL, DIESEL OF GAS THAT IS A CAN OF WORMS. YOU DON'T WANT OPEN? NO, NOT A TRUCK STOP ALSO NOT A TRUCK STOP IS THE QT DOWN ON I 30, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
THAT'S THE CAN OF WORMS. FAIR ENOUGH.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
YOU JUST STATED WHAT I WAS GOING TO AND, AND, UH, THIS ONE I WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT BECAUSE IT'S GOT A USE HERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO BEAUTIFY EVERYTHING.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THIS CASE.
COMMISSIONERS MOTION DISCUSSION, MOVE APPROVAL,
MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.
UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BIN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, MOVE APPROVAL.
AND, UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD BE AT PER THE APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDATION OF A 35 YEAR? YES.
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ALL RIGHT.AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND INCLUDE PER, PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
PLEASE VOTE YOU'S ALL IN TROUBLE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR IS TO TAKE IT.
[3.f. Consideration of the application of Kimley-Horn, requesting approval of 1) a Change in Zoning from Community Retail (CR) District to a Planned Development (PD) District for Community Retail Uses and 2) a Concept Plan for a Hotel/Motel Full Service . This property is located at 3305 Zion Road. (District 3)]
OUR AGENDA.STATE CONSIDERATION, A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF KINLEY HORN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR HOTEL MOTEL FULL SERVICE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 3 3 0 5 ZION, I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER'S CARD, BUT I BET WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS.
I FILLED OUT THE SPEAKER ON THE OH, OKAY.
LET, LET ME LEMME GO TO THAT SCREEN.
JUST GO AHEAD AND NAME AN ADDRESS.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
I AM LOCATED AT 2,600 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 7 5 0 8 0.
WE ARE PROPOSING A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
IT'S LOCATED AT 33 0 5 ALONG ZION ROAD.
THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL OR THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
UM, AND THE FULL SERVICE HOTEL IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT UNDER THAT EXISTING ZONING.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING ONE MAIN BUILDING CONSISTING OF FIVE STORIES ALONG WITH SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL VILLAS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST KIND OF CORNER OF THE PARCEL.
UM, ALONG WITH THE PROPOSAL, WE ARE ALSO INCLUDING THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ZION ROAD AND INCLUDING THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT ONLY ALONG OUR SIDE FRONTAGE OF ZION ROAD, BUT ALSO THE SOUTH PORTION OF ZION ROAD ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, THERE IS ALSO THE PROPOSED HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, THE 10 FOOT WIDE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, UM, ALONG ZION ROAD.
WE ARE CONNECTING TO WHAT TEXTILE WOULD ULTIMATELY PROPOSE FOR THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, AND THEN BRINGING IT ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF ZION ROAD UP TO THE NORTH AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET TO CONNECT TO THE PROPOSED OR THE EXISTING, UM, BOAT DOCK ALONG THAT ROAD.
AND WE ARE JUST REQUESTING THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE OUR SITE AND WE HAVE, UM, OR WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO UH, RE REMOVE THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION FROM, UH, OUR SCREENS? YEAH, UH, THE LAST PRESENTATION'S STILL UP HERE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU WHILE YOU WERE GOING, SO, SO WELL APOLOGIES.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER ABEL, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO THIS IN THE DFW AREA? SURE.
SO THERE'S A LOCATION, IT'S CALLED THE TEXAN, LOCATED IN IRVING.
UM, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PHOTO OR AN IMAGE OF IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, THE NORMAL THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
UM, AND THEY ARE STATING THAT THERE ARE THREE HOTELS IN THE AREA.
UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT SETS YOU APART IS THE VILLA CONCEPT.
UM, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY WATERFRONT, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I COMMEND YOU ON.
I THINK THAT THIS USE IS A GREAT USE IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE TO THE AREA, UM, LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS COMING IN SAPPHIRE BAY AND THE HARBOR THAT DO FILL UP.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE TO CAPTURE POSSIBLY SOME OVERFLOW OR MAKE IT A DESTINATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW SOMETHING IN THE AREA AND I DO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UM, UPDATE AND, AND COMMENTS.
UH, AND I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE PRE-MEETING? UH, NO MA'AM.
THERE WAS JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE PRE-MEETING.
ONE OF 'EM WAS AROUND HEIGHT ELEVATION BECAUSE, UH, YOU'RE EXCEEDING THAT HEIGHT EL ELEVATION ACCORDING TO THE GDC STANDARDS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AROUND THE PURPOSE FOR THE HEIGHT? I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY WANT IT HIGH, YOU KNOW, HIGHER, BUT WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT IS THE, UH, REASON THAT YOU HAVE THE HEIGHT ELEVATION AND THEN TO, UH, JUST TO REITERATE WITH, UM, CHAIRMAN, UM, NOT CHAIRMAN
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IS THAT CORRECT? WE PREPARED A TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND I CAN SPEAK TO THE RESULTS OF THAT AS WELL.
IF WE NEED, JUST SUGGEST THOSE TWO THINGS JUST IN CASE THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE JUST AROUND THAT, UM, OF THOSE TWO THINGS FOR ME AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, I CAN START WITH THE TRAFFIC.
SO WE DID RUN A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
UM, WE DID RUN A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
WE DID FIND THAT IN THE PEAK HOUR, AN ADDITIONAL, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE BOOKMARKED IT.
WELL, IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 120 CARS IN THE PEAK HOUR, UH, PM TIME WAS COMING IN AND OUT.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF HOW MANY CARS PER 30 SECONDS, IT'S ONE ADDITIONAL CAR PER 30 SECONDS.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW LONG 30 SECONDS IS, THAT'S ONE CAR THAT'S GONNA GO BY.
UM, OUR TIA DID FIND THAT NO, OR THAT ZION DOES HOLD THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE HOTEL AS IT DOES NOW.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO ZION ROAD AND THEN THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE.
HE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ELOQUENTLY AS WELL.
NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU ALL CAN STAY UP THERE TOGETHER IF YOU WANT.
I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PULL UP SOME IMAGERY FOR YOU GUYS.
I'M WITH VIGILANCE DEVELOPMENT 4 0 3 6 COTTON GIN ROAD UP IN FRISCO.
UM, I AM REPRESENTING, UH, G TWO G VENTURES.
UH, THEY'RE THE OWNER, UM, OF THE, THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE REASON FOR THE, THE REASON FOR THE HEIGHT VARIATION, UH, VARIANCE IS BECAUSE IT'S AN AWKWARD SITE.
IT'S REALLY CLOSE, UH, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ON, UH, THE LAKE FRONT.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE AND THE, IN THE AWKWARDNESS OF WHERE WE WOULD PARKING, WE'RE PROPOSING TO, TO DO A SUBTERRANEAN PARKING GARAGE.
UM, AND WITH THAT WANTED TO OPEN UP WITH A LOT OF AMENITY SPACE THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE TO THE REGION, UH, ESPECIALLY BEING THAT IT'S SITTING ON THE LAKE.
SO WE'RE SACRIFICING SERVICE LEVEL PARKING TO ADD, UH, SURFACE LEVEL AMENITIES THAT WILL COMPLIMENT WHAT PARK IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
AND ALSO, UH, TO DRAW PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE REGION INTO THE LAKE HUBBARD AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? NOPE.
UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UH, SINCE YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THE BEGINNING, I HAD A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS, UH, WANTED TO TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE IN THE PD TO WHERE EXTERIOR ACCESS IS ONLY FOR THE VILLAS, NOT FOR THE OTHER ROOMS. AND THE OTHER ONE I'D LIKE TO, UH, REQUIRE A CONDITION FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE PARKING TO BE UNDERGROUND.
THE REASON I DO THIS, I'VE DESIGNED ENOUGH HOTELS THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN BUILT, AND SO SOMEBODY WITH THIS GENERAL PERMISSION COULD COME BACK IN AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGE YOUR PARAMETERS AND, AND, AND FOR THOSE IN THE COMMISSION, UNDERGROUND PARKING IS NOT CHEAP.
SO THIS IS DEFINITELY A HIGH, HIGH DOLLAR INSTALLATION HERE.
AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE ONLY FULL SERVICE HOTEL IN SOUTH GARLAND.
SO YOU SHOULD HAVE MONOPOLY ON THAT.
NO OTHER, OH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MAY BE JUMPING.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM.
I WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THE ELEVATION.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, DOES LAND TAPER DOWN TO WHERE THE HOTEL IS? AND IF THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP THERE? AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT NOW, BUT, UH, IF THIS GOES ON TO CONSOLE, YOU MAY WANT TO DO A CROSS SECTION THROUGH THERE AND SHOW THE RELATIVE HEIGHTS OF THE CON CONDOS BACK BEHIND YOU IN YOUR BUILDING.
AND IF THERE'S STILL ANY KIND OF SITE ACCESS, UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY.
I, I BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF YOUR QUESTION TOO, WASN'T IT? YEAH.
WE'LL, WE'LL DO A LINE OF STATE STUDY BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.
WE CAN ALSO, THE HIGH POINT CURRENTLY ON THE SITE IS RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION OF ZION AND, UM, BASS PRO DRIVE.
AND SO EVERYTHING KIND OF FLOWS DIRECTLY FROM THAT HIGH POINT.
AND SO THE SITE AND THE APARTMENTS DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM.
SO, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER PARIS.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH THE ADDITION OF YOUR TWO POINTS AROUND,
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UH, I'M GONNA MISSTATE THEM, BUT YOUR TWO KEY POINTS THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD IT.SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE PROVISIONS THAT IN THE PD THERE ARE COMMENTS ABOUT ACCESS TO THE VILLAS, EXTERIOR ACCESS TO THE VILLAS ONLY, AND PROVISIONS FOR THE UNDERGROUND PARKING.
THAT WASN'T THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT, I FOUND SOMETHING OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER BIN'S LAST MEETING WITH THIS.
HE IS MOVING OUT OF HIS DISTRICT, AND SO HE WILL BE LEAVING.
AND I, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF WONDERFUL INPUT AND THE INSIGHT YOU GIVE US, HAVING BEEN A PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN, UH, 'CAUSE YOU ALL KNOW STUFF THAT YOU DON'T TELL US.
I I'M GONNA GO GET YOUR THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
UH, IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
THIS NOW CONCLUDES, UH, EIGHT YEARS IN TOTAL, SERVING THE CITY ON COUNCIL AND ON THE PLAN COMMISSION.
UM, SO I, I REGRET TO INFORM YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS, I'LL BE MOVING INTO DISTRICT THREE.
SO
UH, BUT, UH, UH, BUT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION AND OF THE CITY.
I ALSO WANT TO, UH, THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK FOR APPOINTING ME SO THAT I COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE, UH, FOLLOWING MY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY, UH, THANK THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FIVE FOR THEIR GREAT SUPPORT OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
WELL, YOU CAN ADD THIS TO YOUR COLLECTION, SIR.
AND, AND I'LL NOTE THAT I WILL BE TAKING THE ONE THING THAT I'VE HAD, UH, ALMOST CONTINUOUSLY FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
I LEFT IT HERE, UH, WHEN I GOT OFF THE COUNCIL, WAS A VERY, VERY SMALL COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION.
UM, JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THE REALLY, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN READ ON IT, IT'S MAGNET, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN READ ON IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, WHICH IS WE THE PEOPLE.
AND, UH, WHAT WE DO HERE IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TEND TO THINK OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS US.
AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE.
WELL, THAT TRULY WAS THE LAST ITEM IN OUR AGENDA, AND I THINK I CAN HAVE THIS DATE RIGHT THIS TIME.
OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS ON JUNE 24TH.