[3.a. Consideration of the application of Spiars Engineering, requesting approval of a 1) Change in zoning from Planned Development (PD) District 22-20 for Single-Family Attached (SFA) Uses to a Planned Development (PD) District for Multi-Family-2 (MF-2) District Uses and 2) a Concept Plan for a Planned Development (PD) District for Multi-Family-2 (MF-2) Uses. This property is located at 2200 West Campbell Road. (District 7) (File Z 24-05)]

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UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, ON TO OUR ZONING CASES ITEM. AND I KNOW I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER ITEMS FOR THE FIRST TWO CASES, AND I WILL USE THESE CARDS AGAIN TO CALL YOU BACK UP FOR THE SECOND CASE. ITEM THREE A CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION ASPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22 DASH 20 FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MULTIFAMILY TWO DISTRICT USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD MULTIFAMILY TWO USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2200 WEST CAMPBELL ROAD. MR. FISHER, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS. AND WE'LL NEED A CARD LATER FOR YOU. YES, YES. INSPIRES IS THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE, CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONER, MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER. 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080 REPRESENTING LEON CAPITAL GROUP.

WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM LEON CAPITAL HERE AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER FROM SPIERS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I AM UNABLE TO ANSWER. LEON CAPITAL GROUP IS A LOCAL PROLIFIC DEVELOPER THAT DEVELOPS IN IN SEVERAL INDUSTRIES SINGLE FAMIL, MULTIFAMILY, INDUSTRIAL AND RETAIL. IN THE PAST, THEY LIKE TO TAILOR THEIR DEVELOPMENTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA TO ADD VALUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO TO THEIR RESIDENTS IN WHICH THEY WILL THEY WILL SERVE, THEY WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LAND AS WELL. HERE'S A NUMBER OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS, IN SEVERAL INDUSTRIES THROUGHOUT THE AREA, THEY ARE WELL CAPITALIZED AND HANDLE THEIR BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION COMNENTS OF, OF DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF YOU HAVE OR HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE FOR THESE TWO PROPERTIES, AND I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A HISTORY ON THESE TWO. THERE ARE TWO REQUESTS TONIGHT. AND YES, THEY'RE SEPARATE CASES, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY BOTH GET APPROVED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BOTH HAPPEN, WHICH WILL TIE IN TO, TO THE REQUEST. AND I'LL GO THROUGH SHORTLY. BUT THESE TWO, PROPERTIES ARE BOTH THE SOUTH, WEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, OF THE INTERSECTION, BOTH THESE CORNERS WERE REZONED IN 2022 FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. FOR BOTH. BOTH CORNERS. THE AFTER THE PROPERTY WAS ENTITLED, THAT DEVELOPER ABANDONED THE PROJECT. AND THEN SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT CAME FORWARD AND TRIED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH TOWNHOME PROJECTS, AND THEY ALSO ABANDONED THE PROJECT. SIMPLY PUT, THEY JUST WE CAN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK, FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT ON BOTH PARCELS, AND SO OUR REQUEST TONIGHT IS, IS TO MAINTAIN TOWN FOR SALE TOWNHOMES ON THE WESTERN PORTION, THE TRIANGULAR PORTION. BUT THEN MULTIFAMILY, ON ON THE EASTERN PORTION. BOTH THESE PROPERTIES BOTH HAVE TOPOGRAPHY AND SOME CHALLENGES THAT MAKE DEVELOPMENT DIFFICULT. THIS IS THE PREVIOUS PLAN. THE DETAILED PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED, THE SHOW TOWNHOMES FOR BOTH BOTH PARCELS. I THINK THE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, IS WITH THIS CHANGE, WE GO, WE'RE GOING TO RETAIN THE MEDIUM DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE ASKING FOR A BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT ON THE WESTERN TRACT. SO THE PREVIOUS REQUEST FOR TOWNHOMES THAT WAS APPROVED HAD A SLEW OF VARIANCES, AND WHEN LEON CAPITAL STARTED TO SEE IF THEY COULD DEVELOP THAT UNDER THE, THE CURRENT PD FOR THE TOWN OWNED. I'M SORRY, I'M MIXING CASES HERE A LITTLE BIT, JUST PROVIDING SOME BACKGROUND HERE, IT WAS IT JUST DIDN'T WORK. AND SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES ON THAT PARCEL ON. BUT AND THEN WE'LL TRANSITION TO THIS SECTION HERE. SO AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOES, WITH THE MEDIUM AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON, ON THE, THE WEST SIDE AND THEN THE HIGHER DENSITY COMMERCIAL, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST SIDE, WE ARE ALIGNING WITH THE COMP PLAN BETTER WITH THIS REQUEST THAN THE CURRENT ZONING. THE CURRENT ZONING HAS MEDIUM DENSITY FOR BOTH PARCELS.

WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS, WHICH IS A HIGHER DENSITY URBAN PRODUCT, ON THE ON THE EASTERN PARCEL. SO GOING TO MULTIFAMILY WITH THIS REQUEST ACTUALLY BETTER ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAN THE CURRENT ZONING DOES, THERE WERE 14 LETTERS OR RESPONSES THAT CAME IN ON THE ON THE PROJECT. THREE OF THEM WERE DUPLICATES OR FIVE OF THEM. SO REALLY THERE'S 11 ONLY 11 INSTEAD OF 14. SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE THAT THERE AREN'T AS MANY, REQUESTS AGAINST IT, AND SO WE ARE PRESERVING MOST OF THIS GREENBELT, THE DEVELOPMENT AREA YOU SEE THERE IN RED THAT THAT IS THE AREA OF IMPACT. SO THE TREE LINE, THE ONLY SMALL PORTION OF TREE LINE THAT WILL BE IMPACTED IS THAT LITTLE I

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CAN'T POINT TO IT. BUT BASICALLY THERE'S A THERE'S A PART THAT STICKS OUT TO THE WEST, 270FT WOULD BE PRESERVED. SO WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT. WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING THAT. SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS WERE GOING TO BE DISTURBING THAT WE ARE NOT. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE HOW WE'VE DUE DILIGENCE WE'VE DONE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING AN IMPACT ON THOSE NEIGHBORS. SO THIS WOULD BE A PD CONCEPT PLAN FOR 281 UNITS, SEVEN BUILDINGS WITH A CLUBHOUSE. IT'S THREE STORY CONSTRUCTION, IT'S A MIX. IT'S ALL MARKET RATE UNITS, SO TOP OF THE MARKET RATE, 62, ONE BEDROOM, 33% TWO BEDROOM, VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF THREE BEDROOMS. SO A YOUNGER A YOUNGER RESIDENT, 20S, 30S, SMALLER FAMILIES, SINCE IT'S ALL MOSTLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOM PROPOSED AMENITIES WOULD BE RESORT STYLE POOL, INDOOR OUTDOOR RESIDENT CLUB, LOUNGE AREAS, FITNESS CENTER, CO-WORKING LOUNGES WITH PRIVATE OFFICE SPACE, WE'D HAVE PRIVATE YARDS FOR SELECT UNITS AND THEN CARPORTS AND TUCK UNDER ATTACHED GARAGES. WE DON'T HAVE ELEVATIONS FULLY DEVELOPED AND THEY'RE NO LONGER REQUIRED WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN. HOWEVER, WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME OF OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO SHOW THE QUALITY WOULD BRING WITH WITH OUR, OUR ARCHITECTURAL, AND, AND EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT WE PROVIDE. HERE ARE SOME INTERIOR SHOTS OF SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS IN ARLINGTON, FLOWER MOUND COLONY, AND FORT WORTH. AND WE CAN GO INTO THE TO DETAILS OF ANY OF LEON CAPITAL'S DEVELOPMENTS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO BELABOR, GO INTO DETAILS UNLESS YOU GUYS HAD QUESTIONS ON THOSE. SO TWO, WE MET WITH THE SHOAL CREEK NEIGHBORS. WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. THERE WERE ABOUT TEN THERE, IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE MEETING, I WOULD SAY BY THE END OF THE MEETING, PEOPLE WERE, FAIRLY EITHER NEUTRAL TO SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST, BUT TWO THINGS THAT CAME UP THE MOST WE WANTED TO SHOW WE WEREN'T HAVING ANY IMPACT FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT, TO THE TOWNHOMES. SO, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND TEAM PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO SHOW THE SPACING OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND NOT ONLY IS THIS ACCURATE FROM A DISTANCE STANDPOINT, WHERE WE'D HAVE 270FT OF AREA, THAT WOULD BE TREED OR REMAIN AS A, AS A WOODED AREA, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO 30FT, SO ABOUT 300FT BETWEEN THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES, THAT WOULD REMAIN WOODED. BUT WE ALSO NAILED DOWN OUR, OUR GRADES. SO OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE AT 556FT.

AND THE TOWNHOMES ARE AT 559. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY THREE FEET LESS, WHICH IS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE'S A SIGHT LINE, THERE'S A DASHED LINE, AND THERE TO SHOW THAT IT ABSORBS PART OF ONE OF OUR STORIES. SO WE'RE EVEN MORE COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF, OF HEIGHT COMPARISON THAN WE WOULD BE IF WE WERE AT THE SAME LEVEL, SO AND WE ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAD SOME DRONE, A DRONE THAT WAS TAKEN AT 45FT. AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST, TO SHOW THAT THAT WOODED AREA AND THERE ARE A COMBINATION OF DECIDUOUS TREES AND EVERGREEN TREES. SO THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTER TIME THAT THIS ENTIRE BELT DOESN'T TOTALLY LOSE ALL ITS LEAVES. NOT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS AT 45FT IN HEIGHT. IF YOU'RE ON THE THIRD STORY OF OUR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PATIO, YOU'RE ONLY ABOUT 30FT IN HEIGHT, SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE 15FT LOWER FROM A VANTAGE POINT THAN WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE. HERE'S ANOTHER SHOT TAKEN. THIS IS TAKEN FROM CAMPBELL LOOKING SOUTHEAST TO SHOW THAT THIS THIS GREENBELT WOULD REMAIN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW OF THE TREES THAT JUST PROTRUDE, AS I MENTIONED ON THAT AERIAL. THE OTHER ITEM WAS WAS TRAFFIC, WE ALL KNOW, OR AT LEAST THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THROUGH THIS AREA THAT CAMPBELL SHILOH CAN BACK UP AND CAN BE A CHALLENGE. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE I LIVED IN CAMELOT 10 TO 15 YEARS AGO. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY DID WE MINIMIZE WHAT OUR IMPACTS WOULD BE, BUT ALSO IMPROVE IT OVERALL, AND SO WE WOULD BE JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE, THE MAIN ACCESS POINT WOULD BE ON SHILOH, WE HAVE A PROPOSED MEDIAN BREAK, AND WE HAVE BOTH A LEFT HAND TURN IN THE MEDIAN AND THEN ALSO A RIGHT HAND TURN DECELERATION LANE, SO WE'D HAVE FULL ACCESS THERE AND GOOD. YOU KNOW, WOULD BE DISRUPTING TRAFFIC THERE. WE ALSO HAVE A THREE WAY LANE, A THREE LANE. SO TWO LANES GOING OUT AND THAT YOU CAN GO RIGHT OR LEFT AND THEN A LANE COMING IN. AND SO THAT JUST ALSO HELPS WITH TRAFFIC. AND THEN OUR CAMPBELL ROAD ACCESS POINT IS AN EXIT ONLY, SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT HAVING TRAFFIC GENERATING WHEN TO COME IN ON THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A RIDE OUT. ONLY IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, DID RECOMMEND OR REQUIRE CITIES REQUIRING BASED ON WHAT THAT SAYS, THAT A, A REQUIRED ADDITIONAL LEFT HAND TURN HEADING WESTBOUND. SO ■THEA THAT'S A SECOND LANE. AND THAT WILL FIT IN THE MEDIAN. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE LANES AROUND AND ALL THAT, AND YOU MAY A.

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WELL, THAT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS ALL THE LANES, BUT IT SORT OF DOES. OR AT LEAST SOME OF THE LANES, THE THREE LANES. BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT INCREASE CAPACITY FOR ANOTHER LEFT HAND TURN LANE. AND THAT GETS ALLOWS CARS WANTING TO TURN LEFT, MORE ROOM TO GET IN THAT DEDICATED LEFT HAND TURN LANE. SO THEY'RE NOT QUEUING UP AND STACKING UP IN THE STRAIGHT LANE AS IT TAPERS AND, YOU KNOW, BECOMES ONE LANE IN THE BACK. SO IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING A, EITHER A IMPOSING EASTBOUND, LEFT HAND TURN, WHICH IS THE LEFT ARROW HEADING NORTH ON CAMPBELL, EITHER DOING THAT OR A RIGHT HAND TURN, NORTHBOUND SHILOH ROAD, AND THERE THERE'S A, A TRANSMISSION POLE, THE POLE, THE LARGER POLES ARE ACTUALLY FAR ENOUGH INWARD, EAST OF OUR PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY LINE TO WHERE WE BELIEVE A LANE CAN FIT THERE. THERE'S THERE IS A DECOMMISSIONED OR A SMALLER, POLE THAT WOULD, WOULD BE REMOVED, BUT THERE IS WE BELIEVE THERE'S ROOM TO PUT A RIGHT TURN LANE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE, AT A MINIMUM, THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ONE. BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO, TO HELPING DO EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER TWO OR POSSIBLY BOTH. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE COST OF THAT. WITH OUR IMPACT FEES AND SUCH. BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WHETHER YOU APPROVE EITHER DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT, JUST YOU CAN YOU CAN DISREGARD THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE WITH OR WITHOUT.

IT'S A VERY MINIMAL ADD ADDITIONS TO THE TRAFFIC LEVELS. WE ARE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVING WITH THIS, THIS, THIS MEASURE HERE, BY SEVERAL SECONDS, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD UP TO SECONDS OR MORE, OF PEOPLE WAITING AT THAT, NOT HAVING TO WAIT AS LONG AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO THIS IS A HUGE THIS WILL MAKE A HUGE IMPACT WHERE SOMETIMES THE DEVELOPMENTS DON'T. ALL IT DOES IS THEY JUST WANT TO MINIMIZE WHAT WE HAVE. WE'RE WE WOULD BE IMPROVING THIS, BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY EVEN WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT. SO I WILL SUMMARIZE THIS AND EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER WOULD BE A CLASS A PROJECT. IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN BETTER THAN IT, THAN IT DOES TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, THE GREENBELT WOULD BE LARGELY PRESERVED. I THINK WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WITH OUR OUR REQUEST, THIS HELPS MARGINS AND DOES HELP US AND DEVELOP THE ENTIRE BOTH PARCELS. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE STILL DOING THE MIX OF, OF, HOUSING TYPES WITH FOR SALE TOWNHOMES ON THE, THE REQUEST IS COMING UP NEXT, BUT THIS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT. AND THIS THIS REQUEST SAYS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATIONS AS WELL. THAT WILL HELP WITH FUTURE THE FULLY BUILT OUT SHILOH AND CAMPBELL, SO THIS JUST HELPS THE CITY DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT ARE THERE TODAY THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT BE ADDRESSED, SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S, SUPPORT HERE AND APPROVE THIS REQUEST, AND I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. FISHER? I GUESS NOT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING. SIR. SIR, YOU WERE PRESENT FOR THE WORK SESSION. THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CONCEPT PLAN AS IT IS TODAY AND THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN YADA YADA. IS THERE AN INTENT FOR TO HAVE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF AMENITIES ON THE PROPERTY? CORRECT. WE WILL WE WILL BE COMPLYING WITH THE GDC WITH REGARD TO AMENITIES. OKAY AND WE HAVE A WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THERE'S A THERE'S A REQUEST FOR A NUMBER OF VARIATIONS. I'M TRYING TO GET MORE INSIGHT REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR VARIATION. SO IT LOOKS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE REQUESTS WAS, TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE IN EXCESS OF THE 32. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THIS CASE OR THE ONE, THE VERY LAST ONE, THE ROSEHILL? YEAH. AND THIS ONE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO. AND I DIDN'T MENTION THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING WHAT YOU DID. WE ONLY HAVE TWO VARIANCES. WITH THREE, THREE VARIANCES AT ALL WITH THIS REQUEST. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING IS ONE RIGHT. YES. YEAH. WE HAVE SOME UTILITY. OUR BUILDING IS A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE ROAD. WE HAVE SOME RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND THERE'S ALSO ON THE SHILOH SIDE, THERE'S TRANSMISSION EASEMENT AND THERE'S ALSO A, A LARGE WATER TRANSMISSION EASEMENT THAT YOU NORMALLY DON'T HAVE ON A PROPERTY. SO THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES FROM A LANDSCAPING AND SETBACK STANDPOINT THAT, THAT WE NEED. BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MATERIAL VARIANCES WITH THIS ITEM, THE OTHER ONE WAS BUILDING HEIGHT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE A WALKOUT BASEMENT ON OR JUST THAT ONE FOR THE ONE BUILDING. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY, IT WILL FEEL THE DEVELOPMENT WILL FEEL THREE STORY EVERYWHERE. UNLESS YOU'RE JUST STANDING BACK, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEHIND THE BUILDING OF, OF THAT MOST NORTHEASTERN BUILDING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU SIR. LOOKING AT THE PLAN HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE. ARE THESE GATED

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ENTRY EXIT? YES THIS WILL BE A GATED DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. SO WILL THESE BE SWINGING GATES OR WILL THEY BE ROLLING GATES? THEY'LL BE SLIDING GATES IF YOU SEE, SEE THE ENHANCED PAVED AREA AT THE ENTRANCE IN FRONT OF THE CLUBHOUSE TO THE TO THE WEST OF THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE TURQUOISE BUILDING. YEAH THERE'S THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SLIDING, EITHER SLIDING OR, EITHER SLIDING OR SWINGING GATES. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE THEY ARE. SLIDE YEAH. SLIDING IS USUALLY BETTER WHEN WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ON CAMPBELL ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE EXIT ONLY. I KNOW PEOPLE, WILL THERE BE ANYTHING TO PREVENT OR WILL THERE BE CLEAR SIGNAGE MARKING THAT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM STACKING UP, TO WAIT TO GET IN? WHEN SOMEBODY COMES OUT? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WON'T BE IT. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR RESIDENTS ONLY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW TO GO OUT. I MEAN, SOMEONE COMING IN, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT TO WHERE WHERE THE GATE IS SO FAR BACK WHERE THEY GET STUCK AND CAN'T TURN AROUND. THE GATE WILL BE HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD, AND WE CAN PUT SOME SORT OF WAYFINDING SIGN OR SOMETHING THERE THAT SO PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ENTRANCE. BUT I MEAN, THIS ISN'T A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC WANTING TO COME IN THERE LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE AT A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE TO GO. AND IF YOU'RE A GUEST, YOU'RE PROBABLY TALK TO THE RESIDENT ABOUT WHICH ENTRANCE TO GO IN. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUCH AN ISSUE AS YOU WOULD WITH OTHER USES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. I'VE GOT SOME SPEAKER CARDS, JOE THOMAS. AND AFTER HIM WILL BE, FRANCIS LACHANCE OR ROGER FRANCOIS. I SHOULD KNOW FRENCH. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I AM JOE THOMAS. I RESIDE AT 2917 SPRINGBROOK DRIVE IN GARLAND, THAT I DO LIVE IN THE CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, OCCUPIES ABOUT 90% OF THE SQUARE MILE. THAT THESE EIGHT ACRES ARE ON THE CORNER OF HERE. AND SO, I'M HERE TONIGHT, JUST, ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, AND THESE ARE MY WORDS, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW I AM PRESIDENT OF THE CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH, DEVELOPERS LIKE THIS GROUP WHEN THEY COME TO US AND WANT TO WANT TO HEAR OUR OPINIONS, THAT MEANS SOMETHING. THE LAST TWO DEVELOPERS ON THIS CORNER, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM THOSE GUYS EVER. BUT THEN WE HAVE GUYS LIKE THIS THAT WANT TO COME TO ME AND HAVE A MEETING, PRESENT TO OUR BOARD AND HAVE A MEETING AND ARE WILLING TO BE OPEN ABOUT THIS LONG BEFORE THEY TALK TO YOU. THAT'S REALLY, THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE TO ME. AND I HOPE IT WILL BE TO YOU, SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THEY'VE DONE HERE IN DALLAS. I HOPE YOU WERE IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY. LIKE I WAS, I THINK SOME OF THE HIGH QUALITY STUFF THAT THEY'VE DONE HERE LOCALLY AND THE COUPLE THAT THEY'VE DONE OUT IN ARIZONA, THAT LOOKS SPECTACULAR, SPEAKS TO THE QUALITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ON THAT CORNER, BECAUSE WE KNEW THERE WAS THERE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING. WELL, WHAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR THAT? AND NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THESE PLANS AND TALKED TO THESE GENTLEMEN, I THINK THIS IS A THIS IS AS BEST AS WE CAN GET.

AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE ENEMY OF PERFECT. IT'S AS BEST WE CAN GET ON THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER. AND SO AS FAR AS THE, THE ITEM THREE B ON THE OTHER SIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, JUST SOUTH OF THAT IS THE EQUINOX APARTMENTS. SO A PRETTY NICE APAMENT COMPLEX THERE, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY HIGH QUALITY STANDARD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, FOR THEM TO HAVE TO MATCH BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GOING TO COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH THAT ESTABLISHED, THING THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE FOR THIS LAND. I CERTAINLY THINK THERE'LL BE LESS TRAFFIC THAN IF WE PUT RETAIL ON THAT CORNER. THERE'S PLENTY OF RETAIL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BANK OF KROGER, OF FAST FOOD STRIP MALL WITH LOTS OF STUFF, URGENT CARE. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF THAT RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE DON'T NEED THAT ON THAT CORNER.

AND I THINK THIS DOES FIT WITH THE FUTURE USE PLAN. AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO APPROVE THESE, A AND B TONIGHT QUESTION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. GOOD EVENING SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOT ONLY FOR, COMING DOWN HERE THIS EVENING, BUT ALSO FOR YOUR SERVICE, IN IN AS IT RELATES TO YOUR COMMUNITY, I JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION, IS YOUR COMMENT THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY OR IS IT ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF? IT WAS KIND OF. NO, THIS IS ME. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. VERY GOOD. JUST WANTED. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CLEAR. THIS IS MY. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT HOW INVOLVED I WAS. THAT WAS THE ONLY POINT OF MENTIONG THAT.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. YOU. I DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK THAT. NOW COMMISSIONER

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ROSE. WHOOP. THERE YOU GO. AS CAMELOT TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ALL, THE ASSOCIATION, CERTAINLY WE HAVE, THESE GENTLEMEN PRESENTED TO OUR BOARD MEETING LAST. WELL, IT WAS, RIGHT AT THE END OF MAY. IN MAY, I THINK, BECAUSE THEY GOT POSTPONED A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE FUN WITH A HURRICANE HERE IN GARLAND. THAT KIND OF POSTPONED SOME THINGS, BUT. YES.

AND SO SINCE THEN, THEY GAVE US THEIR PRESENTATION IN PDF FORM. WE ANNOUNCED THIS IN OUR NEWSLETTER TO OUR MEMBERS, PUT A LINK TO THE PRESENTATION WHERE THEY COULD GO AND SEE EXACTLY THE SAME THING YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. AND SO I GAVE THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND SAID, HERE'S MY NAME, HERE'S MY NUMBER, HERE'S MY EMAIL, CALL ME AND HAVE NOT HEARD ANY OBJECTIONS. SO THANK YOU. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY.

AND ROGER LACHANCE FOLLOWED BY BECKY SANDS. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS FRANCOIS LACHANCE. I GO BY ROGER. IT'S MY NICKNAME. SO I LIVE AT 6406 EAGLE NEST DRIVE.

WE ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE OF THE, APARTMENT COMPLEX, I AM ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BUT I AM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THE DEVELOPERS ALSO GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS. I THINK IT WAS, WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH.

AND, FOR THE MOST PART, WE ALL WALKED. I THINK WE WALKED AWAY. WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DISCUSSED IT, BUT SEEING EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND THAT, IT WASN'T GOING TO BE AS BAD AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS.

OKAY I MEAN, WE WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT GREEN BELT AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE GREEN BELT. STAYING THERE, FOR PRIVACY REASONS AND OTHERWISE, I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK TO VERY QUICKLY THE TRAFFIC, ON CAMPBELL AND BUSH. WE JUST RECENTLY DID A RENOVATION TO OPEN UP THE TRAFFIC LANES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AT BUSH. WE NOW HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT HAND LANE, A DEDICATED LEFT HAND LANE, AND TWO LANES THAT GO THROUGH WITH THAT, THE CONFUSION OF WHICH LANE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN, RIGHT? YES I THINK EVERYBODY'S GETTING IT NOW, MY CONCERN IS THAT OF SHILOH AND CAMPBELL, IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT THEY SHOWED, THEY BASICALLY WANT TO DOUBLE THE LEFT HAND LANE GOING NORTH AND GOING SOUTH ON CAMPBELL FROM BOTH SIDES OF, OF IT GOING NORTH AND SOUTH ON SHILOH. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM EAST OR WEST ON CAMPBELL, MY TAKE IS THAT IF ANYBODY'S DRIVEN THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION IN RUSH HOUR AND I WANT TO SAY FROM 4 TO 7:00, YOU'RE WAITING TWO, POSSIBLY EVEN THREE CYCLES OF THE LIGHT TO GET THROUGH THAT LIGHT. IF YOU'RE ON CAMPBELL TRYING TO CROSS SHILOH TO GET TO BUSH. AND THE REAL PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE LEFT HAND LANES, BUT WE NEED A RIGHT TURN LANE ON CAMPBELL GOING SOUTH ON SHILOH BECAUSE THAT REALLY BACKS UP THAT THROUGH LANE TO THE SAME EXTENT THAT WE DID THAT WE HAD AT CAMPBELL AND BUSH. AND IT SLOWS ALL THE TRAFFIC DOWN. SO AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CITY OF GARLAND OR THE DEVELOPER THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LANES OR ANYTHING, BUT THIS PROJECT CAN'T GO FORWARD IF WE DON'T FIX THE ROADS, I MEAN, AND WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WHOLE THING TO BE DEVELOPED, HAVE PEOPLE ALL IN AND THEN SAY, ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S SCREW UP THE STREETS FOR THE NEXT NINE MONTHS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK TO FIX BUSH AND CAMPBELL. SO MY REQUEST TONIGHT IS THAT YOU COMMISSIONERS LOOK AT WHAT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS AND EMPLOY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CITY OF GARLAND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE, PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING I, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE TRAFFIC FLOW CONTROL IN THAT INTERSECTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS? SPEAKER NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SONS FOLLOWED BY

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JOHN. SONS. HELLO. MY NAME IS BECKY SANDS. I LIVE AT 2004 OSPREY, WHICH IS JUST TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. LEON CAPITAL GROUP DID PROVIDE US WITH A PRESENTATION. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A COMMENDABLE JOB WITH THE RESIDENTS. FOR INSTANCE, NO VARIANCES WITH LOW INCOME. THE SHILOH, INGRESS AND EGRESS, EVEN THOUGH A LITTLE BIT ON CAMPBELL, I THINK IT'S A MODERATE FOOTPRINT FOR BOTH THE TOWNHOMES AND THE APARTMENTS. I THINK IT'S REALLY A PLUS THAT THEY'RE UPSCALE WITH $450,000 TOWNHOMES AND HIGH DOLLAR APARTMENTS. I EXPRESS THIS AND I AM AN HOA BOARD MEMBER, ALTHOUGH I AM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE APARTMENTS ON EVERY SIDE. THAT'S JUST THEY DON'T WE DON'T WANT THEM. BUT I THINK LEON CAPITAL GROUP HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. THEY'VE GOT THE SITE WHERE THEY'VE DONE THE DRONE. THEY KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE KEEPING OUR WILDLIFE, OR THE PRESERVATION GREENBELT. IT'S A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IN CASE YOU'VE EVER BEEN OVER THERE. THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE SITE OF THE POND. WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW A POND IS THERE THAT THEY CAN GO, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE. AND ONE THING THAT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, WHETHER IT'S ON THIS PROJECT OR FUTURE PROJECTS, NOBODY LIKES LIVING IN A CONCRETE JUNGLE. YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS APPROVE THINGS WHERE THERE'S GRASS. LET'S PUT CONCRETE OVER IT. AND WE DON'T LIKEHAT THIS WOULD. THE TOWNHOME SECTION WOULD BE EVEN BETTER IF IT WERE A PARK. EVEN A DOG PARK. TOWNHOMES ARE THE LEAST OF, YOU KNOW, WORST OF THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. I THINK. BUT PLEASE CONSIDER THAT GARLAND NEEDS GREEN SPACE. WE NEED A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE. THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATIONS, MAYBE ON THE TOWNHOUSES TO HAVE MORE, LIVABLE GREEN SPACE AND NOT JUST A PATCH OF GRASS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? THANK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. AND JOHN SANDS, SORRY, I WAS STILL IN MY FRENCH PHASE, WHICH WAS PRONOUNCED SANDS. MY GRANDDAD WAS FRENCH, DAD WAS FRENCH. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ONE AND ALL FOR LETTING ME HAVE A FEW WORDS. SO I WROTE THIS ALL DOWN, BUT I SEE THAT WE'VE DIVIDED THIS DISCUSSION INTO THE TWO PARTS.

WELL, THERE ARE TWO SOUTHEAST SIDE AND THE SOUTHWEST SIDE. NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE? OH, I'M SORRY. MY NE IS JOHN SANDS. I LIVE AT 2004 OSPREY LANE GARLAND. I LIVE IN THE SHOAL CREEK TOWNHOME COMMUNITY THAT'S THERE ON, NAME AND FORREST AND CAMPBELL. OKAY SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE TO BE THEORETICALLY PLACED, MY CONSIDERATION OR MY CONCERN IS REALLY, THREEFOLD. ONE IS THE TRAFFIC. I'M A LITTLE BIT NCERNED ABOUT THIS EXIT ONLY. YES. WE CAN PUT SIGNS UP FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS TO SAY THIS IS EXIT ONLY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AROUND E SHOAL CREEK TOWNHOMES, THEY ALL START OUT RELATIVELY GOOD. BUT AFTER THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND MANY OF THEM THEN EXIT AND NEW ONES COME IN, THAT ALL GOES UNFORTUNATELY

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DOWNHILL. AND SO THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS LOCATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE APARTMENTS THAT BUTT UP DIRECTLY TO THE PRESERVATION AREA. NOW PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THE TOWNHOMES THAT WE LIVE IN, BUT UP. BUT NO, THEY DON'TBUT UP TO THE GREENBELT, THERE IS AT LEAST I'M GOING TO SAY CLOSE TO 100 YARDS OF GRASSLAND, PRAIRIE BEFORE YOU COME OUT OF THE BACK DOOR, YOU COME OUT OF THE BACK DOOR OF ONE OF THE TOWNHOMES.

YOU GO A HUNDRED YARDS BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT PRESERVATION AREA. IF I LOOK AT THIS PICTURE UP HERE, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ON THE EAST SIDE LOOK LIKE LOOK LIKE THEY BACK UP DIRECTLY TO THE PRESERVATION AREA RIGHT UP AGAINST THE TREE LINE. I'M SURE THAT IT WON'T BE WITH TREES COMING IN THE BACK WINDOWS OF EVERYBODY'S APARTMENT, BUT THEY'LL BE PRETTY DARN CLOSE.

WOULD BE MY. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUSPECT. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE APPEARANCE OF THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS. I THINK THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH, THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE GENERALLY FITS INTO THE GREEN BELT AREA. THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF TREES AROUND THEM. THERE ARE ONLY TWO STORY, I THINK, AT THE MOST, AND IT SORT OF FITS IN WITH THE GENERAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, AS DOES THE TOWNHOME COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN. AND THE SEVEN OAKS APARTMENT COMPLEX. THAT'S JUST TO THE NORTH. THE WAY I SAW THIS WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED BY LEON CAPITAL GROUP. SOME UP PLEASE. OKAY OKAY. THE WAY THAT WAS PRESENTED, THESE THESE DON'T SEEM TO FIT THE MOLD OF THESE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. SO THERE IT IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE HAVING TAKEN UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. I SEE NO QUESTIONS. OH, YEAH. THOSE ARE THE ONLY SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE IN THIS CASE, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? OH.

GOT ONE? NO THEY'VE ALL SPOKEN. ALL RIGHT. CAN I ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE? YES. CONCERNS. CHAIRMAN.

GREAT SO WE DO SEE OURSELVES AS SOMEWHAT OF AN EXTENSION OF THE EQUINOX OR I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED SOMETHING ELSE NOW, BUT WE ARE THREE STORIES AND SO IS SO IS THE EQUINOX. SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING TALLER THAN WHAT'S EXISTING TO THE SOUTH, IN FACT, THIS WILL BE A NEWER DEVELOPMENT. AND AS YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE MULTIFAMILY, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE DFW AREA, THERE'S SORT OF A ONE UP, A ONE UP OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THEY BRING HIGHER AND BETTER DEVELOPMENTS WITH BETTER AMENITIES, TO DRIVE THE RENT PRICES AND, YOU KNOW, GET A RETURN, A MUCH RETURN AS THEY CAN. SO, WE DEFINITELY NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE INFERIOR, TO APARTMENTS THAT WERE YOU KNOW, BUILT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AS FAR AS THE ONLY, THAT WILL BE AN EXIT ONLY, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL CHOOSES, WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE PD ORDINANCE AS BEING AN EXIT ONLY I DON'T THINK LEON CAPITAL WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT, YEAH. SO, WE COULD DO THAT. SHOULD ASK THEM FIRST, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO ENSURE THAT STAYS THAT WAY. IF YOU CHOOSE AS FAR AS THE INTERSECTION GOES, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGING TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OF SERVICE IS CHALLENGING THERE OR NOT GREAT THERE. BUT WE KNOW WE CAN'T SOLVE ALL THE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE IN THE AREA, BUT WE CAN DO OUR PART.

AND THEN SOME. AND SO WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD REMAIN AS IT IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE IMPROVING IT BETTER THAN EVEN IF YOU INCLUDE OUR DEVELOPMENT, WITH EITHER A COUPLE LEFT TURN LANES AND A RIGHT TURN LANE OR COMBINATION OF THOSE ADDITIONS, NOT TO MENTION SOME OF THE OTHER MEASURES I DISCUSSED, TO MINIMIZE OUR IMPACT. AS FAR AS OPEN SPACE GOES AND REPRESENTING TENS OF MULTIFAMILY, AT LEAST 10 OR 20 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, TYPICALLY WE ASK FOR A REDUCTION IN OPEN SPACE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40. THAT'S A COMMON VARIANCE IF YOU RECALL. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT AT ALL. WE'RE GOING TO COMPLY FULLY WITH THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE LEAVING THE WE'RE PRESERVING THE BELT AND PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AS WELL, I THINK THAT ADDRESSES MOST OF THE QUESTIONS,

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BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT I MISSED. AND 22 UNITS AN ACRE. I DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT, MR. JENKINS. THE 22 UNITS AN ACRE. YOU HAD SAID THAT FROM THE. THAT'S LOW BY TODAY'S STANDARDS. IT IS A THREE STORY. AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF PRESERVATION THAT WE HAVE, IT'S PRETTY LOW, YOU KNOW, USUALLY 30 TO 35 OR MORE IS PRETTY COMPARABLE OR PRETTY COMMON. ALL RIGHT. DON'T GO AWAY YET. COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABLE IF THE APARTMENTS ALONG THE PRESERVATION AREA, ARE THEY GOING TO BE RIGHT UP TO THE PRESERVATION LAND OR IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME OPEN AREA BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE AS MANY OF THOS LARGE TREES AS WE HAVE AS WE CAN ALONG THERE. THERE'LL BE WE'LL CLEAN OUT THE UNDERSTORY, AND WE DON'T WANT ANY EXISTING TREES TOUCHING OUR OF COURSE, TOUCHING THE BUILDINGS. AND BUT WE'RE GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY A YARD. WE'LL HAVE GRASS, AT THE BASE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT, OF THOSE BUILDINGS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ORNAMENTAL OR DECORATIVE FENCE AS WELL. WE WANT TO CREATE SOME VALUE THERE. SO IF YOU LIVE ON THE EASTERN IN ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU GET TO ENJOY THAT GREENBELT WITH WHAT YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BASICALLY THAT THAT WOULD BE UP AGAINST THE GREENBELT. SO THERE'LL BE SOME, CLEARED OUT THERE AREA THERE THAT'S JUST GRASS, BUT NOT NOT A TON. I MEAN, JUST ENOUGH TO CREATE A NICE AMBIANCE BACK THERE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ABLE, I WANT TO GO FURTHER ON THE PRESERVATION AREA, WILL THERE BE A SIDEWALK LEADING NORTH SOUTH IN THE PRESERVATION AREA AND BREEZEWAYS WALKING OUT INTO FROM THOSE FEW BUILDINGS? OR WILL IT JUST BE SOLID BALCONIES AND NOCCESS? WE'LL HAVE SOME BALCONIES THERE. THERE IS. WE MAY DO AN INFORMAL TRAIL ALONG THERE, CLOSE TO OUR BUILDINGS, BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONCRETE BACK THERE. WE WANT TO KEEP IT PRESERVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, KEEP IT PRIVATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. OTHER THAN, OF COURSE, OUR RESIDENTS WHO MAY WANT TO TAKE A WALK FARTHER AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN IN A TRAIL, BUT THAT'S NOT TOO FAR DOWN IN THE PRESERVATION AREA. YEAH I LIKE THAT. I, I THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS HERE IN GARLAND THAT BUTT RIGHT UP TO THE CREEK, AND THE BREEZEWAYS WALK RIGHT OUT INTO THE CREEK. YEAH. THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A RIGHT GOOD PLAN TO ME. SO NO, AND I LIKE THE TRAIL. WE'LL HAVE A FENCE AS WELL. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING UP THROUGH THE CREEK AND THEN WALKING INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO THERE WILL BE A DECORATIVE FENCE THAT'S ON THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING SIDE, BUT THAT'S DEMARCATES THE PRESERVATION AREA, FROM WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MORE OF A PRIVATE AREA. THANK YOU ALL. INJURIES ON THE WEST.

YEAH. WELL I THINK THAT'S IT. I WILL SAY AS USUAL YOUR YOUR PRESENTATIONS ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS I COME UP WITH BEFORE I GET A CHANCE TO ASK THEM. SO THEY APPRECIATE THAT. CHAIR YES, CHAIR, JUST LOOKING AT OUR SCREEN, I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SPEAKER IN THE QUEUE THAT YOU HAD NOT CALLED YET. YOU HAD CALLED MR. SANDS. BUT THERE'S ONE MORE ON THERE. OKAY. WELL, MR. INGRAM HAD VOICED, WANTING TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT CASE. YEAH. THANK YOU. UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE. THEY'RE KIND OF ONE IN THE SAME. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHTY. SEEING AS HOW WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS, COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSIO, I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, FROM COMMISSIONER PERRY PARIS. ALL RIGHTY. THIS IS ONLY TOLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE WE GO. THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT PASSAGE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SHOW THE VOTES OF THREE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT THEIR NAMES. YEP PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

ALRIGHTY DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE HAD TO TACKLE BEFORE, AND, MR. CHAIR, YOU MAY BE THE BEST TO DO IT. CAN CAN YOU REMIND US, PLEASE? WHAT? WHAT WE HAVE. WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE, CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO, JUST THAT IT SETS KIND OF A FOUNDATION FOR THE DISCUSSION. MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. WELL, THE BASIC PROCESS IS THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'VE COME FORWARD WITH A CONCEPT PLAN, AND THEY'VE OFFERED SOME DETAIL IN

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THEIR VERBAL PRESENTATION. AND WE ARE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE HEARING IT NEXT, AND THEY WOULD BE THE FINAL DETERMINATION. NOW, THEY MAY NOT LOOK NECESSARILY AT HOW HOW WE VOTE THE NUMBERS, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT THEY DO LOOK AT, I'VE HAD COUNCIL PEOPLE TELL ME THIS IS WHAT DID WE DISCUSS, WHAT ISSUES DID WE BRING UP? HOW HAVE THEY BEEN RESOLVED BEFORE IT GETS TO THEM? AND THEN THEY CAN GO ON FROM THERE. BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY ON THIS. THE ONLY THING WE AREN'T RECOMMENDING BODIES ON ARE CERTAIN VARIANCES. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY USE THE WORD VARIANCE, THOSE ARE MORE DEVIATIONS, SEPARATE TERMINOLOGY. SO DOES THAT DO IT. ALL RIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR INPUT OR MOTION. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER ROSE I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. THIS IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALT. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE. NOW THIS IS TO APPROVE JUST THE ONE TRACT OF LAND WHICH IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CAMPBELL AND SHILOH. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT BOTH, BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE ONE. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS? THE SEEING NONE.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE. THE PAST 8 TO 1. AND I'VE GOT I CAN'T SEE WHO, OKAY. WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS IN OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHTY. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM THREE B

[3.b. Consideration of the application of Spiars Engineering, requesting approval of a Change in Zoning from Planned Development (PD) District 22-20 for Single-Family Attached (SFA) Uses to Single-Family Attached (SFA) District. (District 7) (File Z 24-12)]

CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF SPIRES ENGINEERING. REQUESTING APPROVAL AND CHANGE OF ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22. DASH 20 FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT. AND THIS IS AT 2302 WEST CAMPBELL. MR. FISHER, CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONERS. MAXWELL FISHER, 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS. 75080 REPRESENTING LEON CAPITAL GROUP. THIS IS FOR THE SOUTHWEST CORNE, THIS WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT SITE THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE SPRING CREEK HARRIS TRAIL. AND PARK. WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING THE PARK OR AFFECTINGHE PARK. WE DO PLAN ON BEING ADJACENT TO THAT AND HOPING THAT OUR RESIDENTS USE THE PARK AND CONNECT TO IT, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT DEVELOPING THAT OR REMOVING THAT PARK AREA, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF ORIENTATION, HOW FAR WE ARE FROM THE NEAREST HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, CAMELOT IS OVER 850FT AWAY FROM THE SITE, SO IT IS SOMEWHAT ISOLATED FROM SINGLE FAMILY. THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH AS WELL.

SPRING CREEK, A FEW HOMES A LITTLE CLOSER. THIS WOULD BE THE CURRENT ZONING IS A PD FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WITH SEVERAL VARIANCES THAT WERE APPROVED. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE GOT INTO SOME OF THE ENGINEERING AND THE DESIGN OF TRYING TO USE THE CURRENT ZONING WHEN DEVELOP A TOWNHOME PRODUCT THAT WE THINK WOULD BE BEST, AND WOULD, MEET THE GOALS OF SOMEONE THAT WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN THIS AREA, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK. AND SO WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE DESIGN, IT TURNS OUT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MEET THE GARLAND TOWNHOME STANDARDS 100. SO THIS IS A TYPICAL STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST, WHICH YOU DON'T SEE VERY OFTEN. YOU DON'T GET AS MUCH DETAIL LOCKED DOWN WITH THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT ALSO MEANS WE'RE GOING TO FULLY COMPLY WITH THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE TOWNHOUSE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO THIS WOULD BE 60 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ACROSS 14, TOTAL BUILDINGS, A LITTLE AROUND 7 OR 8 UNITS AN ACRE. THE PRICE POINT FOR THESE ONE IN OR FOR THESE THREE BEDROOM UNITS WOULD BE $450,000 A UNIT. SO IT WOULD BE A HIGHER END PRODUCT, IT WOULD BE HOA MAINTAIN. WE'LL HAVE SOME SOME COMMON AREAS THAT WILL HAVE LEISURE SITTING AREAS, BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES AND GRILLS, WHICH WILL BE HOA MAINTAINED SO THAT WAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A FOR SALE PRODUCT, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE AN HOA. SO THAT WAY THE GROUNDS ARE MANICURED AND EVERYTHING IS KEPT UP TO KEEP VALUE. YOU KNOW, PROPERTY VALUES, HIGH, WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE SPRING CREEK HERITAGE TRAIL ON THE SOUTH END. WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AGAIN, NO VARIANCES OR DEVIATION. THIS REQUEST AND THIS REQUEST ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDING A MEDIUM DENSITY PRODUCT. AND WE DID MEET WITH CAMELOT AS TESTIMONY. YOU HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT, AND THEY WERE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THIS REQUEST.

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HERE'S THERE'S NO SPECIFIC BUILDING ELEVATIONS THAT ARE TIED TO THE ORDINANCE, BUT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE AN A RENDERING OF WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE. SOME PEOPLE LIKE THIS DESIGN, SOME DON'T. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT SET ON ANY PARTICULAR DESIGN. EXACTLY. BUT THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT MIGHT THE EXPERIENCE MIGHT BE LIKE IF YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. SO AS FAR AS THIS, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES, WE WOULD HAVE, RIGHT, DECELERATION LANES AT BOTH OUR DRIVEWAYS. SO ON CAMPBELL AND SHILOH TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC. AND IN ADDITION TO THE MEDIAN CUT THAT'S ON SHILOH ROAD THAT YOU SEE THERE IN PINK, WE'D HAVE OUR PUBLIC STREETS WITH THIS REQUEST, SO IT WOULD BE 50 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC STREETS WITH 25 FOOT PAVING, WE ARE WORKING WITH TRANSPORTATION ON SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD CUT THROUGH AND TRY TO AVOID THE INTERSECTION AT SHILOH AND CAMPBELL. THEY COULD TAKE A RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ZIP ON THROUGH AND TAKE TAKE A RIGHT SOUTH ON CAMPBELL.

I'M SORRY, ON SHILOH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON COMING UP WITH A WAY TO KIND OF DETER, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR TRAFFIC. AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS. TO BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.

WE'D ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST FOR A STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOMES FOR SALE TOWNHOMES AT $450,000 ON AVERAGE. NO VARIANCES TO THE CODE, IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF SUPPORT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE COLORED PICTURE? THERE YOU GO.

YOU WERE HERE AT OUR PRE MEETING AND YOU HEARD A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIAL FLOODING. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONTROL THAT OR YOU CAN'T PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING. BUT HOW CAN YOU CONTROL THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS OPEN LAND AND IT'S JUST GOING TO FLOOD INTO THAT PARK AND THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARK, POSSIBL. YEAH. AND WE'LL BE CAPTURING OUR WATER THROUGH THE DESIGN OF OUR STREETS, AND WE'LL BE CAPTURING THAT AND THEN PIPING IT UNDERGROUND. AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, TO RELEASE THE WATER OFF OUR SITE TO WHERE IT FLOODS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO WE CAN'T FLOOD THE PARK, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FLOOD THE STREETS. SO WE'LL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'VE LOOKED AT OUR PRELIMINARY INFORMATION OR PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE AND HOW WE WOULD DRAIN THE SITE, AND SO FAR, SO GOOD. BUT OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MORE DETAILED DESIGN WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR FULL CIVIL PLANS. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DESIGN, SHOW A LAYOUT, A GENERAL LAYOUT WITH THE STREETS AND, AND THE DRAINAGE SITUATION THE WAY IT IS TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GETTING OURSELVES TO WHERE WE COULDN'T COMPLY DOWN THE ROAD AT PERMIT. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE EXCESS WATER THAT WILL BUILD UP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY AND YES, PIPE IT SOMEWHERE. YEAH CHAIR DAVID BOND, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, CAN PROBABLY BETTER ANSWER THE QUESTION. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND IF YOU ALL BOTH FILL OUT CARDS AFTERWARDS. YEAH I CAME WITH MINE. I WAS A LITTLE MORE PREPARED. DAVID BOND WITH SPIRES ENGINEERING, 501 GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY IN RICHARDSON. SO THE CITY HAS A FULLY DEVELOPED MODEL FOR THE SPRING CREEK BASIN THAT WE USE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS LAYOUT WORKS, SO THAT'S ON A BIG PICTURE, A BIG FLOOD EVENT LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN HOUSTON TODAY, THE HOMES THAHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, AS WELL AS ALL THE EXISTINGNG HOME STRUCTURES, ROADS OR, IN A SAFE CONDITION, AND THEN AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE STORM OUTFALL FROM OUR SITE, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH RAHMAN AND THE ENGINEERING TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT GOES AROUND, THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS NEGATIVELY. BUT ALL THE MODELING FOR ALL THE CREEKS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT HAS BEEN DONE AT A FULLY DEVELELOPED PACE. AND SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THERE, WILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S SIZE FOR THE WHOLE CITY AT FULL BUILD OUT TIME. AND SO IT'S, IT'S ADEQUATE FOR WHAT WE'RE ING HERE. AND OUR STORM PIPE WILL BE, SOMETHING THE CITY WILL APPROVE AT DESIGN PLAN TIME, AND IT'LL BE IT'LL BE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. AND IT WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO OUR WEST, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP. GO AHEAD. SO YOU'VE GOT A HANDLE ON THIS? APPARENTLY, SIR, HAVE YOU MET WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING AND SHOWED THEM TELL THEM. EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT YOU HAVE A HANDLE AND YOU'RE GOING TO CONTROL THAT. AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL IN THEIR

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BACKYARD, I DID NOT KNOW, SIR. OUR GROUP MET WITH THE HOA, I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THAT MEETING.

I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE CITY STAFF, THOUGH, SO I'VE NOT MET WITH A RESIDENT? NO, BUT WE'VE MET WITH, STAFF SEVERAL TIMES TO DISCUSS IT. . YEAH, I MEAN, WE T WIWITH THE BOARD, IF WE DIDN'T, WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL OR EVEN AFTERWARD, AND WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ON DRAINAGE. IT'S NOT NOT AN ISSUE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. TWO QUESTIONS, MAXWELL. FIRST BEING, YOU'VE NOT MENTIONED IT ON THIS SLIDE, PAGE 25 OF YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TRAIL, FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT CONNECTS TO THE POND, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL, VALUE FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY ACCESS THAT TRAIL. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. WE WILL HAVE A TRAIL THAT CONNECTS OUR DEVELOPMENT, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT CONNECTS OUT TO THE STREET, BUT IT WOULD CONNECT AND PROVIDE ACCESS DIRECTLY TO THE EXISTING PARK TRAIL. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, SECOND QUESTION, DO WE HAV, IN OUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE BEST USE OF THE OF THE LAND, DO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT BY THIS, THIS APPLICANT TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, OR ARE WE, MAKING THIS CHANGE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MORE MARKETABLE? NO SO, LEON CAPPO HAS SPENT A LOT OF PURSUIT COST ON THIS PARCEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD BUILD SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD. SO THEY ARE COMMITTED TO BUILD THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY'VE SPENT A LOT MORE TIME ON THIS PARCEL THAN I WOULD SAY ON THE ON THE, THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE BECAUSE OF WHERE THIS PARCEL IS TODAY. FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, IT WASN'T FEASIBLE. SO THE AMOUNT OF DESIGN OUR TEAM HAS DONE TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY HAPPEN, TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN. AND THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, IS A TESTIMONY TO THEIR INTENT TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. NOW, CAN I SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S GOING TO ABSOLUTELY DEVELOP? I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. BUT THEY HAVE FULL INTENTION TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WITH, WITH THE FOR SALE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. LET ME CALL, DON INGRAM AND I'LL CALL THE OTHER FOLKS BACK UP, TOO, IF THEY CARE TO SPEAK. DON INGRAM, 6534 CALAIS ROAD, I APPRECIATE THE NOTIFICATION. AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, I'M GOING TO BE PRETTY SHORT. I ONLY HAVE, LIKE, THREE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL, ACCESS, WE JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC COMING FROM, CAMPBELL ROAD, EAST TO ACCESS THE PARK. THEY GO DOWN THAT STEEP EMBANKMENT RIGHT THERE AT THE NORTH POINT OF THE POND TO WALK AROUND THE POND. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE FENCED OFF. AND IT'S PRETTY TREACHEROUS GOING DOWN THAT EMBANKMENT.

RIGHT NOW. THE SLOPE IS EXTREMELY STEEP, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN CONSIDERED THIS FOOT TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC COMING FROM, CAMELOT DOWN KOLEHIYO, AND THEN ALONG CAMPBELL ROAD ACROSS THE BRIDGE, TO ACCESS THE PARK WAS MAINTAINED SO THAT, THAT WASN'T OBSTRUCTED. THE OTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC, APPRECIATE THE CITY OF GARLAND'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FOLKS, ACCOMMODATING OR REQUESTING A, ANOTHER DUAL LEFT TURN LANE, ON THE WESTBOUND CAMPBELL ROAD SIDE TO SHILOH ROAD, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, TRAFFIC BACKS UP FROM SHILOH ROAD ALL THE WAY TO PAST CALAIS ROAD TO THE CHURCH. NOW, IT PEAK HOURS AND I WANT. I WASN'T CLEAR WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE DUAL RIGHT TURN LANES ON THE EASTBOUND CAMPBELL ROAD TO SHILOH, BECAUSE I CAN SESEE THAT HPENING OR BEING NEEDED, PRETTY SOON, BECAUSE THAT TRAFFIC NEEDS TO KEEP MOVING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SIGNAL TIMING ISSUE WITH THE LIGHTS OR WHAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE SOME SOME WORK DONE ON THAT INTERSECTION FOR THAT TRAFFIC TO KEEP THE CONGESTION DOWN. ALSO, THERE'S SOME UTILITY POLES THEY'VE JUST PUT IN ALONG CAMPBELL ROAD THERE. THAT WOULD BE. HAVE YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE TO WORK AROUND IF THEY WANTED TO PUT IN DUAL RIGHT TURN LANES OFF OF CAMPBELL ROAD SOUTHBOUND ON SHILOH, THEN, LASTLY, THE DRAINAGE, THAT'S THE CONCERN OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COMMENTED, I BELIEVE, THAT DIDN'T GET A NOTIFICATION. IS THIS DRAINAGE

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TO THE POND? AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL OFFERING TO MEET WITH US AFTER AFTER THIS, I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, BECAUSE, THE POND IS AT CAPACITY. THAT POND FLOODS ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE THEY HAVE THOSE PROPERTY LINES THERE. AND IT HAPPENS MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOU WOULD THINK, SO THERE'S NO MORE DETENTION CAPACITY IN THAT POND FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OFF SITE, THESE PEOPLE ALONG, SPRING CREEK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOSING THEIR BACKYARDS 15FT, IN SOME CASES, HAS SLOUGHED OFF INTO THE CREEK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS AWARE OF IT, BUT YOU'RE LOSING THE PARKLAND THAT POND OR THAT CREEK. SPRING CREEK IS ALMOST GOING TO, HIT THE SIDEWALKS AROUND THE POND. AND PRETTY SOON THE CREEK AND THE POND WILL MERGE TOGETHER. SO THAT'S A THAT'S THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS? SPEAKER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN, JOE THOMAS, DO YOU CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ONE AGAIN? HELLO AGAIN, JOE THOMAS, 2917 SPRING BROOK DRIVE IN GARLAND, RESIDENT OF CAMELOT. SO I, BACK TO, COMMISSIONER ROSE'S QUESTION. THINK IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION. AND LOOKING AT THIS MAP, YOU SEE, YOU SEE A NICE FLAT LEVEL PARCEL OF LAND THAT IS FAR FROM THE CASE THERE. I TALKED TO, FORMER COUNCILMAN RICK WILLIAMS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. HE'S BEEN IN CAMELOT SINCE THE 70S. THIS POND WAS DUG WHEN? WHEN THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE PARK. THE POND WAS DUG, THE DIRT WAS PILED UP. THE HILL ONTO THIS EIGHT ACRE ACRE PROPERTY. THERE IS A SLOPE 15 20FT OF FROM THAT CORNER ALL THE WAY DOWN. SO IT'S ON THE SIDE OF A PRETTY STEEP HILL, SO THE WATER MAY COME UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING UP THE HILL. SO I THINK WITH THE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN PUT, THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THIS IS THERE'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE TERRACED. IF YOU DROVE BY THERE TODAY, YOU COULD IT LOOKED YOU COULD SEE THE TERRACES THEY'VE RECENTLY MOWED. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE LAYERS THAT THEY PUT UP THERE. AND SO THESE THE TOWNHOMES CAN'T BE FLOODED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE SIDE OF A HILL. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY. ANYBODY ELSE MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO MY PREVIOUS REMARKS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, A CHANCE. CARE TO SPEAK AGAIN. NO. NO OKAY. BECKY SANCHEZ NOPE. JOHNSON'S NOPE. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HEAD SHAKE. NO. COME ON DOWN. YOU COME ON DOWN. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH THANK YOU AGAIN. AND LADIE.

OKAY. ONCE AGAIN MY NAME IS JOHN SANCHEZ. OUR SONGS. I'M SORRY. TWO. I'VE GOT A MASTERS AND MISPRONOUNCING NAMES. NO, THAT WAS NOT MISPRONUNCIATION, 2004 OSPREY LANE, 75044, IN THE SHOAL CREEK TOWNHOME COMMUNITY. THAT'S JUST TO THE EAST OF ALL OF THIS THERE ON CAMPBELL AND NAAMAN FOREST. OKAY. AND SO HERE'S MY COMMENT, IN FACT, I WROTE ALL THIS DOWN AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IT SOME BECAUSE THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN MODIFYING THE WAY THEY WERE PLANNING. I NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR US. OH YEAH, THAT THEY ARE. THEY'VE MODIFIED THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES THAT THEY HAVE UP THERE AND IT'S NOT IMPINGING AS MUCH ON THE POND. AND PARK AREA AS THAT I SAW IN THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT THEY GAVE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT THING TO DO, HERE IS MY CONCERN. OKAY.

AND THAT IS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ESTHETIC APPEAL. AND WHAT DO I MEAN BY ESTHETIC APPEAL? SO I DRIVE THIS INTERSECTION MULTIPLE TIMES EVERY DAY. UP AND DOWN CAMPBELL.

UP AND DOWN. SHILOH AND WHEN I'M THERE AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS OPEN AREA THAT LEADS DOWN TO THE POND, IT IS AN ESTHEHETIC EXPERIENCE. IT LOOKS GOOD. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER

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BUILD UP THAT GOES ON INSIDE OF GARLAND AND SO THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS, TO BLOCK THAT VIEW WITH MORE CONCRETE STREETS, POTENTIAL TOPOGRAPHICAL RETAINING WALLS AND VISUALLY UNAPPEALING BUILDINGS, MEANING THE PROPOSED TOWNHOME COMMUNITY IN THE NAME OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE. IN MY OPINION, OF THE CITY'S PROPENSITY FOR DOING THINGS. THAT MEANS MORE FISTFULS OF DOLLARS, TAX DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. RATHER THAN FOR URBAN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT THING.

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL THAT INTERSECTION EVERY DAY AND WHO WILL MISS OUT ON A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF PART OF GARLAND, WILL OUTNUMBER, WELL OUTNUMBER THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THOSE TOWNHOMES. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THE BACK SIDE, AND GET THE KIND OF VIEW THAT MANY OF US CAN SEE TODAY, AND IT WILL BE GONE ONCE. THOSE ARE BUILT. SO THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ABEL, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS PARCEL IN THE FUTURE, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THIS WHICH COULD BE ENJOYED BY FAMILIES AND ADD PRODUCTIVE TAX BASE PER CAPITA? OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES THERE, BUILT UP AGAINST THAT PARK? I WOULD RATHER IT BE LEFT AS AN OPEN AREA AS PART OF THE CITY OF GARLAND'S, SAY, PARKS AND RECREATION, PERHAPS SO THAT AGAIN, IT HAS THE ESTHETIC APPEAL AND THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY THE WALK AROUND THE POND OR THEIR KIDS PLAYING OUT THERE OR RIDING THEIR BICYCLES AROUND IN THERE. THINGS THAT KIDS USED TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN THEY CAN DO NOW BECAUSE THERE IS SO LITTLE OF THAT KIND OF SPACE FOR THEM TO ENJOY. SO THAT'S MY AGAIN, MY PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROSE. IF THAT'S YOUR FEELING AND OPINION, HAVE YOU NOT TALKED TO NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS ABOUT BUYING THIS LAND AND GIVING IT TO THE CITY FOR A PARK? I HAVE, I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT I'VE HAD THAT THOUGHT. YES AND THEN WHEN I KNOW THAT THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY ALONG HOLFORD ROAD CLOSE TO, SPRING CREEK FOREST PRESERVE THAT IS NOW ON THE MARKET FOR $4 MILLION, THAT IS NOT ANYWHERE. THIS SIZE, AS FAR AS I KNOW. THERE IS NO WAY THAT I BELIEVE I CAN TALK. MY NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING MYSELF, INTO BEING ABLE TO PUT UP $4 MILLION TO DO IT. NOW, COULD THE CITY OF GARLAND DO THAT? MAYBE IT'LL MEAN RAISE THE TAXES SOME, BUT OKAY, SO IT'S A THOUGHT. IT'S JUST SIMPLY A THOUGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE A AUDIENCE O WISHES TO ADDRESS THICASE? NOT MR. FISHER. CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONERS, I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. OUR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS ARE AT OUR TOWNHOME PADS ARE GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE POND, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AND HAVE IT FLOOD, NOR WE WOULD WANT TO. SO WE'LL DEFININITELY BE WORKING WITH, TE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE DEVELOP IN A WAY THAT COMPLIES WITH THE DRAINAGE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DOES RECOMMEND TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION, WE'LL BE RKING WITH TRANSPORTATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. EXACTLY. WE CAN'T IT'S OBVIOUSLY OFF SITE, AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS OKAY WITH, BUT THERE WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE WITH TURN LANES ADDED, IN SOME DEGREE IN NATURE. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE PLAN

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ON DOING VERY ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TOWNHOMES HERE THAT WILL ADD VALUE TO THAT CORNER, WE DON'T PLAN ON DISRUPTING ANYONE THAT WANTS TO USE THE PARK, AND DON'T PLAN ON DOING THAT, WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VANTAGE, YOU KNOW, THE VIEWPOINTS, THAT YOU HAVE FROM THE PROPERTY AND THEN FROM THE PARK. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW OUR EDGE WILL BEST READ FROM THAT PARK WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME OPEN FENCING THAT SORT OF DEMARCATES THE PRIVATE FROM THE PUBLIC AREA, BUT STILL HAS VIEW CORRIDOR AND DOESN'T DIMINISH FROM THE VALUE THAT THE BEAUTY OF THE PARK AREA. SO, IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT IS ZONED FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT TODAY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT IS A FEASIBLE DEVELOPMENT FROM AN ORDINANCE STANDPOINT, I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED MOST ITEMS ABOUT DID I MISS ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL AND COMMISSIONER PARIS. SO I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, FIRST IS GUEST PARKING WITHIN THIS, LIKE THE RIVER SET COMMUNITY HAS GUEST PARKING BUILT IN. I KNOW THESE ARE FRONT ENTRY. WILL WE BE STREET PARKING? WILL WHAT? WHAT IS THE THOUGHT HERE? RIGHT. SO THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS DO REQUIRE SOME GUEST PARKING, ONE FOR EVERY FOUR UNITS. WE'LL BE HAVING THAT IN 90 DEGREE PARKING SPACES, THAT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM THE STREET. SO THAT WAY WE COVER ANY GUEST PARKING NEEDS GIVEN THAT THEY ARE FRONT ENTRY. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, NEXT QUESTION GOES TO, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE CUTTING FROM CAMPBELL TO SHILOH. BECAUSE WITHIN CAMELOT, SWORD PEOPLE COME UP. SHILOH CUT OVER AND GET TO ARAPAHOE. AND THAT'S HOW WAYS TAKE YOU, IS HAVE WE DO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN DO STREET HUMPS IN HERE? IS THAT GOING TO BE. YEAH. SO THERE'S, DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT WORKS BEST, AS FAR AS VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION TO REDUCE THE DETERRENCE. WE'VE SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY SOME DO SOME HUMPS TO REDUCE THE SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC. SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THOSE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY MAYBE DOING SOMETHING IN THE MEDIAN, CREATING A MEETING TO KIND OF SLOW, MAYBE IN THE INTERSECTION KIND OF A CHOKE ZONE OR SOMETHING. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WITH TRANSPORTATION, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO DOING TONIGHT WITHOUT THEIR, THEIR CONSENT, AND WITHOUT, LEON CAPITAL FURTHER LOOKING AT IT. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT, AT PERMIT. WE'LL HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. IF, IF THE REQUEST IS APPROVED, I JUST I SEE THAT AS BEING A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE VERY QUICKLY, AND WE DON'T WANT TRAFFIC FLOWING THROUGH. I CAN SEE THE RESIDENTS NOT WANTING IT. IF IT WAS APPROVED AND WAS DEVELOPED. SO YEAH, WE WANT IT LESS. IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

WE WANT TO ADDRESS IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO WE WILL BE THANK YO. SPIKE STRIPS WORK. YES COMMISSIONER. PARIS I THINK IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE. YOU MIGHT HAVE STATED IT WHEN YOU GOT BACK UP AGAIN, JUST IN GENERAL AROUND THE LAND USE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF THE LAND USE? IS THIS THE BEST USE OF THE LAND THAT YOU'VE EXPLORED? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS WITH MANY OPTIONS BEFORE, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS LAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING DONE WITH IT. SO HAVE YOU EXPLORED ANY OTHER USES? WELL SO BOTH THESE PROPERTIES WERE PREVIOUSLY ZONED IN OLD PDS FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. AND HAD THEY BEEN APPROPRIATE OR BEEN RIPE FOR RETAIL, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AS RETAIL. THERE WAS A RESTAURANT CONCEPT THAT I THINK CHAIRMAN ROBERTS MAY EVEN HAVE WORKED ON AT LEAST SOMEWHAT, THAT NOT I THINK IT MAY BE IN A DUE DILIGENCE FORM, BUT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A GREAT OPTION HERE. YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE VACANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, BRICK AND MORTAR RETAIL IS HARD TO COME BY THESE DAYS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE AMAZON EFFECT. RETAILERS ARE VERY SELECTIVE ON WHERE THEY BUILD BUILDINGS, AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, GARLAND HAS GONE THROUGH A LOT OF RETAIL PRUNING WITH THE GARLAND ENVISION GARLAND, WHERE WE HAD ALL THIS RETAIL ZONING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT A RETAIL SITE THAT HAS JUST, YOU KNOW, EXCELLENT ACCESS AND TRAFFIC, AND IN THIS CASE, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE POWER OF THE KROGER RETAIL CENTER TO THE NORTH. AND SO THIS PROPERTY, IT'S JUST THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ZONING CASES. AND THE CURRENT THE PAST ZONING OF RETAIL, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY GONE RETAIL. AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER FROM A COST. I MEAN, FROM A REVENUE OR STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER DEVELOPMENT IF THAT MADE SENSE. BUT THIS THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY. IT'S AS MENTIONED, IT'S UP AGAINST THE PARK. I DON'T THINK BACK OF HOUSE RETAIL WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD HERE, IT

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JUST IT'S JUST NOT A RETAIL SITE. SO YES, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE I THINK IS TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT HERE, THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS TOWNHOME AND THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS MORE AKIN TO A POINT OF ORDER, ARE WE. CURRENTLY CONSIDERING A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS APPLICANT, OR IS IT JUST THAT THE CHANGE IN ZONING. NO IT'S A STRAIGHT CHANGE OF ZONING. HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BRING ANY KIND OF CONCEPT PLAN OR DETAIL PLAN FORWARD.

IT'S JUST, FROM THIS USE TO STRAIGHT THIS USE AS LONG AS HE ABIDES BY OR THE APPLICANT ABIDES BY ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE HIM AGAIN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. YES, SIR. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION BY THE NEIGHBORS OF THE FLOODING, AND YOU YOU SPOKE TO HAVING DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT, IS THERE A POINT OF WHERE THE WATER WILL BE, SPILLED OUT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT? A LOT OF IT WILL BE STREET DRAINAGE, BUT ARE THERE GOING TO BE, SPECIFIC? DRAINAGE BUILT? AND WHERE WILL IT WHERE WILL IT EXIT TO THE CREEK? YEAH.

SINCE WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER HERE, I'LL LET HIM ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY, IF THAT'S OKAY.

CHAIRMAN. YEAH, I WAS IN LINE. I WASN'T SURE, WE HAVEN'T CHOSEN AN EXACT OUTFALL LOCATION, THE IDEA IS WE'D GET DOWN TO THE CREEK. GENERALLY, YOU WANT TO OUTFALL, DOWN AT THE FLOW LINE OF THE CREEK. SO YOU DON'T HAVE WATER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RUNNING OVER, AND THEN DOWN, THAT GENERATES A LOT OF EROSION, GENERALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DRAIN THE STREET INTO A REGULAR CURB INLETS LIKE YOU'D SEE IN ANY DEVELOPMENT, GATHER THOSE UP AND THEN HAVE ONE OUTFALL POINT JUST TO CONSOLIDATE. WHERE WE'RE OUTFLOWING, SHORTEST DISTANCE IS GOING TO BE JUST TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF CAMPBELL, GOING WEST. THEN WE'D STABILIZE ANYTHING WE TOUCH DURING CONSTRUCTION. AS FAR AS THE EROSION ISSUES DOWNSTREAM THAT ARE THAT ARE THERE, IT WASN'T PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF THOSE, BUT, TYPICALLY THOSE ARE HANDLED, YOU KNOW, IN SOME SORT OF A MITIGATION PLAN OR ACTION, DEPENDING ON EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW CLOSE THE PROPERTY IS OR WHAT THE EXACT SITUATION IS. CURVATURE OF THE CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT THAT PIECE MIGHT BE A BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, BUT AS FAR AS WHERE WE WOULD OUTFALL WOULD BE GENERALLY, DOWN BELOW THE CREEK, BANKS THAT YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T SEE UNLESS WE WERE IN A CANOE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. ALRIGHTY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE AND NOBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, I WILL THROW IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER ROS, I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR COMMENTS. I MAY OPEN UP THE COMMENTS THIS TIME. USUALLY WAIT TILL THE END. BUT TO COMMISSIONER PERRY'S QUESTION, I THINK IT WAS IN 2008, 2007, 2008, WHEN MR. FISHER WAS ON STAFF HERE. I DID, AUTHOR A PD FOR RETAIL AND TWO RESTAURANTS ON THAT SITE, AND I WAS KILLED BY ECONOMICS AT THE TIME, BUT THAT PD WAS THERE PROBABLY UP UNTIL THE TOWNHOME PD AND NOBODY PICKED UP ON IT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, LOOKING AT IT NOW, THE RETAIL WOULD GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE TOWNHOMES WOULD. AND IT IS A DIFFICULT SITE AT BEST. IT'S TAPERED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND BUT IT DIDN'T. IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THAT.

AND IN TERMS OF THE CITY BUYING IT, IT WAS DOGGONE EXPENSIVE BACK IN 16 YEARS AGO. AND I KNOW THE REPUTATION OF THE OWNER. AND EACH MONTH THE PRICE GOES UP AND HAS FOR 16 YEARS. SO I CAN PRETTY WELL GUARANTEE THAT THIS APPLICANT'S PAYING A PRETTY GOOD PENNY FOR IT. AND I DO APPRECIATE, I DON'T KNOW IF I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST TOWNHOME APPLICATION, AND BUT I DID NOT LIKE IT. THIS IS A MUCH BETTER LAYOUT. BIG IMPROVEMENT ON BOTH SIDES. MR. MISTER CHAIR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE DIDN'T, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? SORRY. I WANTED TO ANSWER. COMMISSIONER PERRY'S QUESTION. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND I'VE ALREADY HAD MY SAY SO. WHOEVER IS NEXT. COMMISSIONER ROSE, I MOVE. WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, WHICH IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. SEE? NO DISCUSSION.

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PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THREE C

[3.c. Consideration of the application of Mojibola Shobande, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for an Automobile Sales, New or Used Use and 2) a Plan for an Automobile Sales, New or Used Use. This property is located at 2723 National Place. (District 5) (File Z 24-13) (The applicant requests postponement of this item to the July 22, 2024 Plan Commission meeting.) ]

CONSIDERATION. THE APPLICATION OF, MR. SHERBONDY, AND HE HAS ASKED THAT THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED TO OUR JULY 22ND MEETING. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO DO SO, COMMISSIONER DALTON, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE PER APPLICANT REQUEST. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARISH TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO THE JUNE 20TH JULY 22ND MEETING. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. IS THERE ANOTHER ONE THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY? NEXT ITEM IS

[3.d. Consideration of the application of Triangle Engineering, requesting approval of 1) an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 04-45 for Community Retail Uses, 2) a Specific Use Provision for a Day Care, Youth – Licensed Child-Care Center Use on a property zoned Planned Development (PD) District 04-45 and 3) a Detail Plan for a Day Care, Youth – Licensed Child-Care Center Use. This property is located at 4802 North President George Bush Turnpike. (District 1) (File Z 24-19)]

CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF TRIANGLE ENGINEERING. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO FOUR DASH 45 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR DAYCARE, YOUTH LICENSED CHILD CARE CENTER USE. EXCUSE ME. PROPERTY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO FOUR DASH 45 AND A DETAILED PLAN FOR DAYCARE. YOUTH LICENSED CHILD CARE CENTER USES PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4802 NORTH. PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ONE. IS AN APPLICANT CARE TO COME FORWARD? GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS KEVIN PATEL. 1782 WEST MCDERMOTT DRIVE, ALLEN, TEXAS, 75 013. I'M THE ENGINEER OF RECORD AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT. I HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE AS WELL AS THE BRAND REPRESENTATIVE. BOTH OF THEM ARE HERE WITH ME. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS APPLICATION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? ANYTHING, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN THIS EVENING, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, ENTITIES OR ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES LIKE THIS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA? NOT IN GARLAND, BUT THERE ARE ALMOST ABOUT CLOSE TO TEN LOCATIONS IN DALLAS FORT WORTH, AND THEY'RE GROWING. AND THIS IS A NATIONAL BRAND OUT OF, BALTIMORE. AND THEY HAVE ABOUT CLOSE TO 400 LOCATIONS, 350 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THEY HAVE ABOUT TEN LOCATIONS HERE IN DALLAS. ONE IS IN FORT, I THINK COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN FORT WORTH, ONE IS IN PROSPER, ONE IS IN FRISCO, ONE IS IN MCKINNEY. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S ONE COMING UP IN COLLEYVILLE. SO THEY'RE GROWING BRAND IN DALLAS FORT WORTH, I BELIEVE SO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT MY THICK READING GLASSES ON. I CAN'T SEE WHAT IS THE BRAND ACADEMY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I CAN'T, I COULDN'T TELL. SO THIS IS. YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING? YES, SIR. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. I THINK ALSO A QUESTION WAS RAISED DURING THE PRE MEETING, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHILD CARE FACILITIES CLOSE BY TO THIS LOCATION EXISTING? OTHERS? NOT YOURS. ANY OTHERS? NOT THE SIMILAR TYPE OF FACILITY. I MEAN, THERE MAY BE AN OLD DAYCARE, AN OLD EXISTING MONTESSORI SCHOOL OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM NEARBY, BUT NOT THE PROGRAM. WHAT KIDDY ACADEMY OFFERS NEARBY THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? NO, WE WERE JUST REFERRING TO A CHILD CARE FACILITY OF ANY KIND THAT WATCHES CHILDREN. NOT WITHIN A MILE OR TWO MILE RADIUS. OKAY THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY IS ONLY UNIQUE AT A UNIQUE LOCATION ON A MAJOR ROADWAY SERVICE ROAD. YES, SIR. WHAT IS THE QUEUING PLAN FOR CARS ARRIVING TO DROP KIDS OFF AND CARS PULLING UP IN THE AFTERNOON TO PICK KIDS UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT.

DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE A LOT OF LOCATION FOR CARS TO BE WAITING IN A QUEUE, ESPECIALLY. ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING OFF THE END OF THE SERVICE ROAD? ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PICK KIDS UP AND DROP KIDS OFF? SO THERE IS A COMBINATION OF THE TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE PROPERTY FROM THE SERVICE ROAD, AS WELL AS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

SO BASED ON OUR TRAFFIC, WE NEED THE FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE STAFF REQUEST. AND BASED ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, ABOUT 65% OF THE VEHICLES WILL ENTER

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INTO THE PROPERTY USING THE EXISTING RIGHT TURN LANE AND EXISTING DRIVEWAY OFF OF THE SERVICE ROAD. THE LAND TURN INTO THE PROPERTY, PARKED THEIR VEHICLE, WALK THEIR KID INSIDE THE BUILDING, AND THEN WALK OUT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN SAID, THEN MAKE A CIRCLE AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN TAKE THE WESTERN FIRE LANE WEST AN EXISTING FIRE LANE, AND EXIT OUT OF THE, 190 EXISTING DRIVEWAY. SO BASED ON THE NUMBERS, BASICALLY 65% CARS COMING OFF OF ONE, 90, 35% CARS COMING OFF OF, REVERSE RIVER OAK BOULEVARD AND 80% OF CARS EXITING BACK ON, 190 AND ABOUT 20% THAT GOES BACK ON THE, RIVER OAKS. IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN UP. YEAH MAYBE. SURE. MAYBE WHERE YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHERE THE KIDS WILL BE DROPPED OFF AND WHERE THEY'LL BE PICKED UP. SURE. LET'S ZOOM. OKAY JUST SLIP IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. UP SO THEY CAN SEE THE 190 SERVICE ROAD. OKAY, A LITTLE ZOOM OUT, ZOOM OUT. FOCUS ON BOTH STREETS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS AN EXISTING RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE PROPERTY. THIS THIS DRIVEWAY CURRENTLY IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE THAT ENTRANCE OFF OF THE SERVICE ROAD WITH THE DENTAL CLINIC THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO FEW THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THE PEAK HOURS FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS IS BASICALLY 630 TO 9. THAT'S WHERE THE MOST KIDS BEING DROPPED OFF AND PICK UP IS BETWEEN 3 TO 630. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO PEAK HOURS AND PEAK PEAK HOURS AS WELL AS PM PEAK HOURS. WINDOW PARENTS 865 PERCENTAGE OF PARENTS WILL ENTER FROM THE 190 SERVICE ROAD THEY DRIVE INSIDE THE PROPERTY, PARK THEIR CAR, WALK THEIR KID INTO THE BUILDIN, AND THEN MAKE A CIRCLE AROUND THE BUILDING AND EXIT OUT FROM THE SAME 190, SAME 190 DRIVEWAY.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN OFF THE SERVICE ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN. AND WITHIN ABOUT 20FT, THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AND TAKE THE KID INSIDE.

THAT'S CORRECT. THERE IS NO DEAD. THERE IS NO DEDICATED DROP OFF AND PICK UP LANE HERE.

PARENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PARK THE CAR, WALK THEIR KID IN THE BUILDING AND THEN EXIT OUT OF THE PROPERTY THAT THAT'S THE MODEL. THEY HAVE IT. AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME PICKUP. AT THAT POINT WHEN THEY GO STOP THERE, GO INSIDE AND GET THEIR CHILD. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. WELL, HAVE YOU CONTEMPLATED THE POSSILITY OF THERE BEING A BACKUP IN THAT QUEUE OF CARS SITTING THERE WAITING TO PICK KIDS UP OR DROP KIDS OFF, BACKING UP INTO THE SERVICE ROAD? NO, SIR. SO THEY THEY STAGGERED THE PICKUP TIME.

THEY STAGGERED THE DROP UP TIME. THEY STAGGERED THE PICKUP TIMEME ASELL. SO IT'S NOT NOT ALL THE CLASSROOM WILL BE RELIVING THEIR KIDS AT THE SAME TIME. THERE'S A 15 OR 20 MINUTES WINDOW FOR THE PICKUP AND 15 UP TEN, 20 MINUTES WINDOW FOR THE DROP UP IN THE MORNING. SO THEY MANAGE THE TRAFFIC PRETTY EFFICIENTLY. I MEAN, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ISSUE ON ANY OTHER FACILITY IN THE METROPLEX OR ANYWHERE WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS PARTICULAR BRAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE HOW YOU CAN CONTROL WHEN THE SIX PARENTS THAT ALL GO TO WORK AT THE SAME TIME CAN BE DROPPING OFF, KIDS AT DIFFERENT TIME WINDOWS. SO DO YOU HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION TO THAT? SURE, YEAH.

LET'S GO. I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM EXPLAIN THAT. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TOO.

SURE. THANK YOU. BRIAN JOHNSTON, 3415 BOX HILL CORPORATE CENTER DRIVE, ABINGDON, MARYLAND, 2109.

THANK YOU. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. SO OUR MODEL IS A ROLLING START TIME. AND WITH THAT EACH PARKING SPACE TURNS OVER ABOUT SIX EVERY TEN MINUTES OR ABOUT SIX TIMES PER HOUR. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A PARABOLIC CURVE, A SMALL NUMBERS SHOW UP AT 630, ETC, ETC. THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR THE TEACHERS AS WELL. SO WE DON'T NEED ALL OF THE TEACHERS THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, THE WAY THAT OUR PARKING PROJECTIONS ARE DEVELOPED OVER, WE'RE AT 340 LOCATIONS NATIONWIDE. WE USE THIS MODEL FOR EVERY LOCATION THAT MORE THAN ENCOMPASSES OUR OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD. BECAUSE OF THE

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ROLLING START TIME. THAT'S THE KEY. WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED START TIME. WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE A ROLLING START TIME, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING THIS PERSON YOU CAN ONLY DROP YOUR KID OFF BETWEEN 635 AND 640. NO, NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE DROP OFFS PER CHILD ARE AS CONVENIENT FOR THE CAREGIVER AS AS NEEDED. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT ON AN AVERAGE, ACROSS 340 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THIS MODEL IS WHAT WORKS FROM A DISBURSEMENT STANDPOINT. SO THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. WE DON'T SEE THE NUMBERS SKEWING FROM THAT DEVIATION VERY MUCH. ARE THEY ALL WORKING OFF OF A MAJOR ROADWAY SERVICE ROAD LIKE THIS IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO THEY'RE ON A MAJOR THREE LANE, FOUR LANE SERVICE ROAD OR THREE LANE, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE LANES IN CERTAIN MARKETS. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO COME OFF OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES PARKING LOT IO YOUR PROPERTY AROUND AND THEN BACK OUT THERE.

SAME PARKING AREA. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO EFFECTIVELY MOVING IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE FASHION. AND ONE OF THE SET UP, WHENEVER A PARENT OR A FAMILY IS DOING THEIR INTAKE, THAT'S A POLICY THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THEM. AND IT'S AN UNDERSTOOD PROCEDURE THAT THEY HAVE. EXCUSE ME. THEY HAVE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION TO ALLOW FOR THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO BE MOST EFFICIENT.

WELL, I WOULD JUST MORE REFERRING TO THE FACT YOU'RE SHARING PROPERTY WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS, ON THEIR DRIVEWAY, AND THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD AND GOOD WITH YOU DOING IT. THIS WAY. THE OTHER BUSINESS NEXT DOOR. THAT THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY OBJECTION TO THIS. OKAY. AND WHAT TIME DID YOU CLOSE AT NIGHT? SIX 3630. SO YOU'RE AWARE FRIDAY NIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE TOUGH BECAUSE THOSE THAT PARKING LOT THAT THAT DENTAL PLACE GETS VERY PACKED VERY QUICKLY IN THE AFTERNOONS. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ABEL? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I'M LOOKING AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUNTERCLOCKWISE. CORRECT. YOU SHOW TWO WAY TRAFFIC ON THIS PLAN. CORRECT. SO ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING IN FROM THE BACK COMING IN. SO CLOCKWISE OR SO WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT 35 PERCENTAGE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF THE RIVER OAKS, WHICH IS KIND OF A, THE SIDE STREET OR BACK STREET, AND ABOUT 65 PERCENTAGE, VEHICLES ENTERING FROM THE 190 SERVICE ROAD. THE KEY THING TO NOTE IS 8,580% OF VEHICLES WILL EXIT OUT ON 190, AND ABOUT 20% WILL EXIT OUT ON, RIVER OAKS. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 80% WILL VEHICLE WILL MAKE THE COUNTERCLOCKWISE. TURN AND REST WILL BASICALLY GO BACK ON THE RIVER OAKS. HAVE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I'LL JUST HAVE A SLIGHT FOLLOW UP. THE MODEL YOU LAY OUT WILL WORK WHERE YOU MAKE THE PEOPLE PARK, BUT SHOULD THIS CHANGE OWNERSHIP? MY GRANDKIDS PRESCHOOL. YOU DRIVE UP, SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND GETS THE KID, TAKES THEM BACK, AND THE CARS LINE UP AND END UP OUT IN THE STREET. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN WRITE INTO THE PD TO PREVENT THAT SITUATION, SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING FOR STAFF TO LOOK INT, A REQUIREMENT THAT DROP OFFS ARE PARKED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE YOU SEE OUR CONCERN THAT IT COULD START BACKING UP THE ACCESS ROAD. RIGHT. BUT THEY DO HAVE A POLICY. THIS PARTICULAR BRAND HAS A POLICY. AND I THINK THIS THIS PARTICULAR FRANCHISEE HAS SIGNED A 15 YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE KIDDY ACADEMY. AND OF COURSE THEY ARE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY. WE ALL ARE JUST REPRESENTING THEM, BUT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST 15 YEARS OF THE SCHOOL. AND AFTER THAT, I MEAN, IT'S TOO HARD TO PREDICT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT. IF SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN. WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN AND SOMEONE ELSE TAKE OVER AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. OKAY, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER DALTON WAS TRYING TO GET AT. YEAH ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. TWO, TWO FURTHER QUESTIONS, FIRST, THE APPLICATION REQUESTED AN INDEFINITE SUP TIME PERIOD. THAT KIND OF GIVES ME HEARTACHE JUST A LITTLE BIT, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER AND RECOMMEND TO US? SO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS BEING FINANCED BY THE SMALL BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, SBA, FOR THE 25 YEARS OF AMORTIZATION. SO AS LONG AS IT'S ALLOWED FOR 25 YEARS, I DON'T THINK ZOOLANDER WILL HAVE ANY

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ISSUE WITH THAT. BRAND DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMWITH THE 15 YEAR PLUS, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO RENEW THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AFTER 15 YEARS. BUT I INK LENDING STANDPOINT, THE LENDER WILL REQUIRE AT LEAST MINIMUM 25 YEARS. THANK YOU. AND A FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER DALTON'S QUESTION TO YOU EARLIER, THERE IS A ANOTHER CHILD CARE FACILITY IN THE AREA YOU MENTIONED. IT'S OVER A MILE AWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY 0.3. IT'S A THREE MINUTE WALK AWAY. SO THERE IS A DIRECT COMPETITION BETWEEN, THIS NEW MODEL AND AN OLDER PREVIOUS MODELS. AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING FOR, I'M SURE THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER. BUT IN TERMS OF, DEVELOPMENT, I'M STILL THE TRAFFIC THING IS, IS STILL KIND OF SITTING FOREFRONT OF MY MIND. BUT I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. JUST JUST TO MAKE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE NEED THE FULL. WE HAD WE HIRED A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. HE IS PRESENT TONIGHT. HE HAD AS WELL.

WE DID THE FULL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS STAFF REVIEWED IT. STAFF BLESSED THIS PARTICULAR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. SO WE KIND OF CHECKED ALL THE BOXES. WHAT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MISS OUT ANYTHING. SO WE JUST DIDN'T STOP IT AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THE FULL ANALYSIS FOR THE INTERSECTION ON THE EITHER SIDE. JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU, I'LL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER DALTON, THEN COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. WELL, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON, SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT TO DISCUSSION. OKAY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW IN DISCUSSION MODE. ANYBODY CARE TO DISCUSS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN DALTON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A DEFICIT OF THIS, SORT OF LAND USE, IN THE CITY AND WITH THE ABUNDANCE OF, NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING, I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE AN AMENITY THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR SIMPLY DUE TO THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SO FORTH.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS OVER THE NEED FOR THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES AND THESE PEOPLE WORK, AND THESE KIDS NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE SAFE. AND BEING EDUCATED, I CAN'T SUPPORT AN INDEFINITE SUP.

HOWEVER, I WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO LOOK AT MAYBE, A 15 YEAR OR 20 YEAR. ONE OF THOSE TWO IS MORE IN MY COMFORT ZONE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL. I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THE SUP DURATION, I THINK TYING IT TO THE SBA'S FINANCING TIME OF 25 YEARS IS IN LINE WITH THE PROPOSAL, MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, BECAUSE ONE THING THAT IS MISSING, AND WE'VE HEARD IT ON EVERY CASE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT WAS TRAFFIC. DEL LANES ALONG PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TIE TO THIS? IS THAT. I THINK THAT'S GETTING INTO TEXDOT. THAT MIGHT BE TEXDOT IS. YEAH. AND I THINK THERE MAY BE ONE ALREADY THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. I GO UP THE ROAD A COUPLE I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT. LOOKING AT THE PLAN, I COULDN'T SEE IT. SO BUT I MY DISCUSSION IS THAT 25 YEARS WOULD BE MY COMFORT LEVEL ON THE SUP. I AM FOR IT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PEIRCE.

I WAS WHOOPS, SORRY. OPERATOR GO FOR IT. GO ON THE TRAFFIC. IN THE IN THE ACTUAL CONSIDERATIONS, IT SHOWS THAT THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT DID CONCLUDE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT

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IT WOULD GENERATE SOME TRAFFIC. DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANY CONCERN, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC CONCERN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. SO I DO FEEL LIKE I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. OF THIS. SO THANKS. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I'M SORRY. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

WAS THIS, PROPOSALMENDED PREVIOUSLY? I THOUGHT I DOWNLOADED AN EARLIER COPY OF THIS, BUT I MAY BE COMPLETELY MISTAKEN. I'M NOT AWARE OF AN AMENDMENT. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YO.

ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONER ABEL, IF WE'RE READY, I WOULD MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THIS WITH AS RECOMMENDED WITH A 25 YEAR SUP. SECOND, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL TO APPROVE WITH A 25 YEAR SUP. HEARD THE FIRST SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSE. ANY DISCUSSION THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH THE 25 YEAR TIME LENGTH ON THE SUP. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM THREE E CONSIDERATION THE APPLICATION OF

[3.e. Consideration of the application of ZoneDev on behalf of StoneHawk Capital, requesting approval of 1) an amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 18-20 for Mixed Uses and 2) a Concept Plan for Multi-Family-2 (MF-2) Uses. This property is located at 121 & 151 East I-30. (District 3) (File Z 24-25)]

ZONE DEV ON BEHALF OF STONE HAWK CAPITAL, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 18, DASH 20 FOR MIXED USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY USES. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 121 AND 151 EAST I . I WONDER WHO THIS MIGHT BE. AND IF YOU REMEMBER YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS MAXWELL FISHER, 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080, REPRESENTING STONE HAWK CAPITAL PARTNERS, WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM STONE HAWK TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON. UNABLE TO ANSWER STONE HAWK CAPITAL PARTNERS IS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. THEY ARE LOCATED IN DALLAS, TEXAS, THEY LIKE TO BUILD LIVING EXPERIENCES THAT THEIR RESIDENTS CAN BE PROUD OF AND CALL HOME, AS OPPOSED TO A STANDARD APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEY DO THIS THROUGH PROVIDING EXCELLENT COMMON AREAS AND AMENITIES, WHICH WE'LL SHOW YOU IN SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. THIS IS ONE THEY DID, ATTORNEY GROVES AND BISHOP ARTS. IT'S A FAST GROWING AREA. THIS IS A FIVE STORY WRAP CALLED THE BECKLEY. AND IT'S A CLASS A PRODUCT. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE KITCHEN, THE FURNISHINGS THERE. AND THEN THEY HAVE A, A SKY LOUNGE, AS THEY CALL IT, OR, PATIO, UPPER STORY PATIO THAT REALLY TAKES THIS DEVELOPMENT TO ANOTHER LEVEL. THAT OTHER APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE. AND THEN THE OLSON, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT THAT FAR FROM THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY. THIS IS BY THE QUIKTRIP BOBTOWN SOUTH OF 30. THIS IS A FOURUR STORY PRODUCT THAT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, 238 UNITS ON BOBTOWN ROAD. SO THIS THIS ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS IN A CITY SPONSORED MORE OR LESS PD, OVER A LARGER AREA. IT'S GOT SEVERAL SUBDISTRICTS. WE ARE LOCATED IN PARTS OF THREE SUBDISTRICTS. WE ARE NOT THE FARTHEST PROPERTY EAST, BUT ONE ONE FROM, TWO PROPERTIES FROM INCLUDING THE EXISTING AUTO, WRECKER YARD TO OUR TO OUR EAST.

SO THIS PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SE, THE MASTER PLAN THAT, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN A ZONING IS, IS APPROVED FOR A LARGER AREA, THEY SORT OF TAKE A GUESS ON WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT MASTER PLAN IS WHAT YOU SEE THERE. I'VE KIND OF BOXED OUT WHERE THE PROPERTY IS IN BLUE. THEY TAKE A GUESS ON WHAT MAKES SENSE, BUT AND THEY DON'T REALLY GET DIVE INTO DETAIL. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REALLY DO THAT UNTIL YOU HIRE AN ENGINEER. WELL FIRST A DEVELOPER IS INTERESTED IN PROPERTY. YOU HIRE AN ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT, AND YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT IS VIABLE FOR A PROPERTY. AND SO, THIS PROPERTY DID SHOW SOME RETAIL ON 30 AND THEN IT SHOWED SOME, SOME MEDIUM DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND SOME APARTMENTS. THERE IMMEDIATELY TO OUR, TO OUR WEST. AND THE POINT IS, IS THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED FOR RETAIL, IN ADDITION TO MOSTLY BEING ZONED MULTIFAMILY, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. AND IT'S NOT A GOOD RETAIL SITE, WE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS DEVELOPER IS TAKING ON QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC COST FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT, BUT ONE MAIN ISSUE IS

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THAT THE SITE DOESN'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS OFF OF 30. WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ACCESS POINT OFF OF 36.

WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO HAVE ONE DIRECTLY ON THERE BECAUSE OF THE OFF RAMP, AND SO IT'S NOT A GOOD RETAIL SITE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. BUT EVEN IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW ADDRESS THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR STORMWATER POND ON OUR SOUTH SIDE AND OUR STORMWATER POND SERVES LARGER, MORE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH. THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, AND MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.

AND SO WE ARE TAKING ON THAT BURDEN, BUT IT'S SERVING A LARGER AREA, AND IT HAS TO GO THERE BECAUSE IF YOU DRIVE BY, I 30, THERE'S ALREADY A DRAINAGE AREA THERE. WE'RE JUST NEEDING TO IMPROVE IT TO MAKE IT BETTER, TO, TO SERVE OUR DEVELOPMENT, NOT TO MENTION DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DEVELOP. SO YOU WOULD NEVER, EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE RETAIL FRONTING ON 30, NOT TO MENTION THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTH, AS YOU SEE THERE IN THE LEFT PICTURE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY. SO THE CITY HAS CONTROL AS WHAT WILL DEVELOP THERE. IT WILL LIKELY BE COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BEING COMMERCIAL, WHEREAS THE RESIDENTIAL IS TO THE NORTH. YOU GOT THE PARKS AT ROSE HILL, WHICH MISS CORNELIUS, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS LIVES IN, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL IN THIS PROPERTY, AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, WE'RE ALL WE'RE AT, IT'S ALREADY ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY. WE'RE ASKING ONLY TO ADJUST THE SUBDISTRICT LINES. WE'RE WANTING TO ADJUST ONE AND TWO, BASICALLY MOVE THE LINE OVER TO WHERE OUR PROPERTY, THE SUBDISTRICT LINES, ALIGN WITH OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARY BOUNDARIES. MOST OF THE SITE ALREADY ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY, AND THAT THAT IS OUR REQUEST. WE'RE PROPOSING 271 UNITS. THERE'D BE TWO BUILDINGS. IT'S A FOUR STORY DEVELOPMENT. IT'S MORE URBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE PUSHED OUR BUILDING, UP AGAINST THACKERY, WHICH THACKERY IS A ROAD WHICH I'LL GET INTO AS A PUBLIC ROAD. SO IT'S FOUR STORY BUILDING. WE'LL HAVE A CLUBHOUSE. THIS WILL HAVE SEVERAL AMENITIES. WE'LL HAVE TWO DEDICATED COURTYARDS, WE'LL HAVE A BEER GARDEN, WE'LL HAVE OUR BIG POOL, OUR POOL AREA, WE'VE DONE A POOL. WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, THAT'S PRETTY OVER THE TOP, AND THEN IN THIS CASE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE BOTH PUBLIC OFF, OFF SITE OPEN SPACE AND AS I MENTIONED, THE PRIVATE COURTYARD SPACE. WE'LL HAVE TUCK UNDER GARAGES HERE. SO WE'LL OFFER THAT. WE'LL OFFER SOME CARPORTS, THERE'LL BE A ROOFTOP LEISURE AREA, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE OLSON, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THIS GIBSON, THERE'S. SO HERE'S SOME OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS OF THIS LAYOUT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE CITY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS WHEN WE. WHEN STONE HAWK FIRST WANTED TO PURSUE THIS PROPERTY, WE THOUGHT WE COULD JUST DO A DRIVEWAY TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THE PLAN AND WE WANT THE CITY WANTED US TO PUT IN A ROAD, A PUBLIC ROAD. SO WE'RE DEDICATING LAND ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY AND PUTTING IN A 50 FOOT WIDE STREE. AND IT WILL BE IT'LL HAVE SOME PARKING ON THAT STREET. IT WILL BE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREET. WE'RE GOING TO ADD BIKE RACKS, BENCHES, TRASH RECEPTACLES ON THAT STREET. AND SO WE'VE HAD A COORDINATED EFFORT WITTHE DEVELOPER TO THE NORTH, THE DEVELOPER TO THE TO THE NORTHWEST, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A PARK, PARK PLANNED ON THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SE THERE. IT'S POINTING IN THE MIDDLE. SO WE'RE ADDING A LARGER POCKET PARK, AND THAT WILL BE FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT SO THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN IT, BUT IT WILL BE FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY YOU DON'T GET MOST DEVELOPMENTS, YOU JUST HAVE A PRIVE DEVELOPMENT, A PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. AND IT'S ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS, WE'LL ALSO HAVE A TEN FOOT, 8 TO 10 FOOT WIDE TRAIL. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT WITH THE CITY ON, IN CONNECTING THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THE PUBLIC, THE, THE PRIVATE, THE PUBLIC PARK AREA AND THACKERY ROAD. SO WE HAVE GOOD PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION. WE ALSO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG OUR WESTERN BOUNDARY. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE POINTING IT TO WHERE IT SAYS PEDESTRIAN TRAIL. SO THAT WILL CONNECT WHAT WE'RE HAVING, A COUPLE OPEN SPACE VISTA AREAS, THAT FACE DETENTION POND. BUT IT WILL CONNECT AROUND TO THE PUBLIC PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND I MENTIONED THERE'S ON SITE, THERE'S OUR ON SITE DETENTION THAT SERVES THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AS WELL. THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DETENTION NO MATTER WHAT DEVELOPS. YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PUT RETAIL UP ON THON I-30 BECAUSE OF WHERE THE REQUIRED DETENTION, NOT TO MENTION, AS I MENTIONED, THE ACCESS IS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE OFF THE OFF RAMP. SO THE SO THIS DEVELOPER IS TAKING ON A LOT OF PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT YOU A LOT OF TIMES DON'T GET, WITH WITH APPLICATIONS 22,000FT■S OF LAND DEDICATION. SO EVERYTHING IN YELLOW WE'RE DEDICATING TO THE CITY AS LAND, FOR A PUBLIC STREET, AND 1100 LINEAL FEET OF

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ACTUAL THACKERY ROAD CONSTRUCTION. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE BUILDING THE PART ON OUR SITE, WE'RE ALSO BUILDING TO CONNECT IT TO ROSE HILL. SO THAT PART IN BLUE WHERE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPER FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONSTRUCT THAT. SO WE SO WE WILL CARRY THE PUBLIC STREET ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO OUR EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THE FUTURE DEVELOPER, OR THE DEVELOPER OR THE SELLER OF THE LAND TO THE EAST WILL CONTINUE THAT AROUND AND DOWN AND IT WILL CONNECT TO I-30. SO THAT WAY WE ACTIVATE THAT THAT SITE THAT ALSO IS CHALLENGED FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT. THIS SITE IS BURIED, IT'S BURIED FROM, HAVING DIRECT FRONTAGE ON ROSE HILL. AND AS I MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T HAVE IT DOESN'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ON 30. SO MULTIFAMILY MAKES SENSE FOR THIS SITE. AND WITH MULTIFAMILY, IT ALLOWS US TO DO THESE THINGS LIKE DEDICATE A RIGHT OF WAY, BUILD A STREET, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING THE PART IN GREEN. WE'RE SEE, WE WERE ADDING ON THERE AND ADDING A PUBLIC PARK, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, 60,000FT■S OF STORMWATER ON THE SOUTHERN END, THIS HERE IS OUR 3D RENDERING IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THACKERY. SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING ON THACKERY HEADING EAST, YOU WOULD HAVE AN EXCELLENT ENTRY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. IT FEEL VERY URBAN. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT FEEL URBAN, DEVELOP IT URBAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PD CALLS FOR. AND THEN HERE'S A VIEW LOOKING SOUTHWEST WITH THE PARK AT PARK IN THE FOREGROUND, WE'D BE BUILDING ALL OF THAT FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. THIS IS VIEW NORTH FROM I-30. COUNCILMAN MOORE, WE MET WITH HIM AND HE WANTED US TO MAKE IT A POINT TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD FROM 30, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR FRONT DOOR, IT'S STILL A FRONT DOOR FROM A VIEW CORRIDOR STANDPOINT. SO WE'VE ADDED SOME LAYERS OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THERE, WITH OUR DETENTION, WE'LL HAVE LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE ACTUALLY SEATING AREAS. THEY'RE HARD TO SEE ON DETENTION POND AND THE PARKING AREA FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SIT, JOIN US FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY WHERE IT'S NOT WON'T BE JUST TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, NOISE IMPACT THERE. WE'LL HAVE SOME SOME MITIGATION THERE, WHAT I WILL SAY WE ALSO MET WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE PARKS OF ROSE HILL, BACK ON JUNE 19TH, AND JUST SHARED OUR PLANS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE, TO THE WEST, WE HAD A MEETING AND JUST TO SHARE OUR PLANS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, WAS THERE, OUR COMMON AREA AMENITIES ARE OF SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS. THESE ARE ALL IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. YOU CAN SEE EVEN OUR POOL. IT'S HARD TO SEE THERE, BUT THE POOL AT THE HENLEY ACTUALLY HAS, A RECESSED BAR SEATING AREA IN THE POOL, LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AT A AT A FIRST CLASS RESORT, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO GO TO THAT LEVEL, OR OF, SOPHISTICATION. AND THEN ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A, LOUNGE, SKY LOUNGE, SOMETHING OVER THE TOP THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, POOL AND, TV AND SEPARATE AREAS TO FOR LEISURE. THE THIS IS THE HUDSON AND MIDLAND. IT HAS THIS GOLF SIMULATOR, THE OLSON THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION JUST DOWN THE ROAD IN GARLAND. ALSO WILL HAVE A GOLF SIMULATOR. SO THESE ARE THINGS AGAIN, I THINK ARE SEPARATE AND ABOVE AND BEYOND AMENITY FROM AN AMENITY STANDPOINT. WE ALSO LIKE SO WE'LL HAVE A BEER GARDEN OUT IN ONE OF OUR COURTYARDS AND OUR, OUR AMENITY PACKAGE WILL FAR. IT WILL EXCEED THE GARLAND'S DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR AMENITY, STANDPOINT, THIS IS THE THIS IS WHAT THE OLSON THIS IS A RENDERING. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE OLSON SKY LOUNGE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS JUST DOWN, DOWN THE STREET. THIS IS A KIND OF BLOWN OUTUT TO KIND OF SEE HW THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TIES IN WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND IT. TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED TO THE NORTH, SO IT'S SORT OF AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION OF LAND USES. WE THINK WE GOT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPING THE PIECE THAT'S SORT OF BURIED, BURIED FOR MANY SORT OF RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES, AND THEN MULTIFAMILY WILL WILL LIKELY DEVELOP ON THE CORNER, BUT THEN IT TRANSITIONS THE TOWNHOME AS YOU HEAD NORTH, AND THEN THE CITY OWNS THE PIECE ACROSS ON THE EAST SIDE OF, OF, ON THE SORRY, THE WEST SIDE, THE WEST SIDE OF ROSE HILL, THAT WILL LIKELY BE A COMMERCIAL IN SOME KIND. SO WE STILL GET A BALANCE, A MIX OF USES AS CALLED FOR IN THE PD. SUMMARIZE BUT THIS IS A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER, THE SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED MULTIFAMILY. WE'RE WANTING TO JUST ALIGN. THE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING AROUND US. WE WANT TO JUST ALIGN THE SUBDISTRICTS TO MATCH OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT FEASIBLE, WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO, PROVIDE A QUASI URBAN DEVELOPMENT. AND SOME OF OUR VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PD, DIDN'T QUITE ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TO DO AN URBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT A LOT OF

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THE VARIANCES ARE BECAUSE OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THOSE. BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE. YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH, THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS A TON OF PUBLIC BENEFIT. AS I MENTIONED, STORMWATER, THE PUBLIC PARK, THE DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY BUILDING THE STREET, ALL THOSE THINGS, AND IT ALIGNS WITH THE I 30 CORRIDOR STUDY OF EXPANDING THE HOUSING OPTIONS, INCLUDING RENTAL OPTIONS. AND I ANSWER QUESTIONS. I SHOULD HAVE SOME HERE. I DON'T SEE ANY, THERE WE GO, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR RENDERING OF THE POCKET? POCKET POCKET PARK? EXCUSE ME, SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE LOVE PLAYGROUNDS, TOO. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT SIZED QUESTION. THANK YOU. WE'LL DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I'LL JUST SAY I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD TO BEGIN WITH. WE'RE THE LAST TO KNOW ALL THIS STUFF, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE SAYING THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THACKERY HAS ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY? NO, NO, NO, IT'S SO THE RIGHT OF WAY THE SECTION GO BACK TO SO THE SECTION IN BLUE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THERE'S A LITTLE. NO, NO, THIS IS A SECTION IN BLUE THAT'S BEEN DEDICATED BECAUSE THAT THE TRICON DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH PRELIMINARY PLAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE EXACTLY, BUT THAT SECTION HAS BEEN DEDICATED. WE WOULD CONTINUE THE PART IN THE YELLOW WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE GO THROUGH PLATTING. OKAY WELL, THAT SECTION COVERS MY CONCERNS.

OKAY YES. AND SO THIS PROJECT I GUESS, IS ALREADY ZONED AND READY TO GO THEN? THE ONE TO THE NORTH TOWNHOMES? YEAH, THOSE I BELIEVE THOSE TWO ARE, WELL, THE ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE ONE THE I THOUGHT SO I COULDN'T REMEMBER. YEAH, THE ONE UP AGAINST ROSE HILL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL PLANNING ON THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALLOWS TOWNHOMES, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE COMING THROUGH HERE OR NOT, BUT THEY PROBABLY WILL, AT LEAST FOR A PLAT. LET ME GUESS. WE'VE GOT THE ACCESS, WHICH I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. AND THAT'S THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. I DO LIKE THAT ONE BUILDING WITH A COURTYARD DESIGN. I ONCE DESIGNED A HOTEL LIKE THAT WITH SOME ROOMS FACING THE INSIDE, SOME THE OUTSIDE. YEAH, YEAH, IT ADDS VALUE ON YOUR INNER UNITS ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THEIR RESIDENTS LOVE THAT. OH, YOU BE. AND I THINK THAT. OH THE SIGNAGE. WHAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE QUADRUPLE. WELL BECAUSE THIS IS AN A PD THAT'S URBAN STYLE. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. UNCOMMON TO HAVE TO ASK FOR A BLADE SIGN. SO THAT WAY, SINCE THE BUILDING IS UP CLOSE TO THE STREET AND WE DON'T HAVE FRONTAGE ON ROSE HILL, WE THOUGHT A NICE BLADE SIGN.

THAT'S THAT'S AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING, VERTICAL MAYBE. YEAH, VERTICAL. BUT BUT IT'S LIMITED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STICK WAY OUT FROM THE BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE LIKE IN A DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE IT'S JUST A LONG SIGN AND YOU COULD PUT THE WORDS DOWN IT IT'S IT'LL LOOK REALLY GOOD. AND I THE I DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE AND THE, THE, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN FROM SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE IN A DALLAS CODE. I PULLED SOME, SO IT'S STANDARD. IT'S NOT, USING DALLAS AS A STANDARD. NOW ARE THEY? YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE. YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE. OKAY.

ONLY THE GOOD STUFF. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF SIGNAGE, OUT ALONG CAMPBELL ROAD. YEAH. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH COMMISSIONER PARIS, I BELIEVE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE, IN THE PRE MEETING HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. I DID LISTEN TO THE PRE MEETING. I KNOW I WAS A BIT LATE ONE, I WASN'T SURE THAT I, HEARD MORE COMMENTARY AROUND CARPORT. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AROUND CARPORTS. WHERE CAN YOU SPEAK MORE TO THAT. THE CARPORT DEVIATIONS. YEAH YEAH. SO A CARPORTS ARE NOT REQUIRED, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND IF WE DO PROVIDE THEM, WE DON'T WANT TO, HAVE TO ENCASE THEM WITH, WITH MASONRY ON THE PES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT ANYMORE EITHER. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. SO I MEAN, MAYBE I'M OFF THERE, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR CARPORTS IN THE 12 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBAS. SO IN OUR SETBACKS THAT ARE NOT ADJACENT TO THE STREET. SO THE ONE THE SETBACK ALONG THE WRECKER'S YARD AND THEN THE SETBACK ADJACENT TO WHAT WILL LIKELY BE ANOTHER, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUR CARPORTS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, COVERING WHERE THE PARKING SPACES ARE, AND THAT 12 FOOT SETBACK IS REALLY INTENDED, FOR, YOU KNOW, A MAIN BUILDING WHERE YOU HAVE MASSING AND THINGS THAT YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE BUILDING UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE WITH A CARPORT. IT'S BEEN TYPICALLY OKAY TO HAVE THAT IN THE ENCROACHING THE SETBACK BECAUSE IT'S JUST IT DOESN'T HAVE WALLS. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, ONE STORY, LESS THAN

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ONE STORY IN HEIGHT, REALLY SHORT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PUT PARK A CAR UNDER IT. BUT, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT IS OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COVER THE SPACES THAT ARE ALONG THE PERIMETER. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING MY QUESTIONS. I DID DRIVE IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE I HAD CROSSED ALL MY TEARS TO MY EYES.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DON'T TELL ME YOU WANT TO BLOCK THE VIEW THAT WONDERFUL WRECKING YARD? NO. OKAY, ALL RIGHTY. OH, COMMISSIONER. PARIS. OH, MAYBE TOO PREMATURE. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. CAN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE AUDIENCE, SO, I DIGRESS. YEAH. OKAY I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONER PARIS, YOU ARE. YOU HAVE A LIVE MIC. I RECOMMEND WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE CAN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. DO I HEAR OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, SECOND BYOMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT A HINT? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE? I THINK SO, LIGHTS WENT OUT FOR THOSE ON WATCHING ON TV. ALL RIGHTY. YEA. THAT PASSES. AND UNANIMOUSLY WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE.

COMMISSIONER ABEL, I WOULD MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THIS AS STATED BY STAFF. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL WAS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. AND THAT'S WITH ALL THE DEVIATIONS, FOLKS. OKAY. WHICH AREN'T THAT MANY. YEAH SEE? NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE.

YEAH. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICATION OF OUR DELTA ENGINEERS. AND IF YOU RECALL, THEY'VE ASKED THAT THIS BE POSTPONED. WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS JUST TO POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY OR TO POSTPONE IT TO A DATE. DETERMINED. OUR NEXT TWO POSSIBLE DATES ARE JULY 22ND AND AUGUST 12TH. HEY DO IT! DO I HEAR A MOTION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS, QUESTION BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION? IF IT'S ALL RIGHT. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE AUGUST 12TH DATE WAS UNAVAILABLE. OKAY, I IT'S BECAUSE IT'S. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 12TH. I THINK THE AUGUST 20TH 6TH MAY BE IN QUESTION, BUT. OKAY. SECOND, SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. I HEARD THE FIRST SECOND, I BELIEVE, BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO POSTPONE THIS CASE TO AUGUST 12TH. WAIT, WAIT. CHAIR, BEFORE YOU ALL VOTE, HANG ON. UNDER GDC 2.0 5F9, THE POSTPONEMENT MAY BE FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 30 DAYS. SO. AND TODAY'S THE EIGHTH RIGHT WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. CARE TO REVISE THE MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO REVISE REVISE THE MOTION TO A, PUBLIC HEARING DATE. THAT IS WITHIN THE PRESCRIBED 30 DAY PERIOD. WHICH WOULD BE THE JULY 22ND PERIOD. PLEASE. DOES THE SECOND CONCUR? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHTY.

ANY MOTION ON ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ANY MORE LEGAL OPINION. NO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE

[3.f. Consideration of the application of R-Delta Engineers, Inc., requesting approval of 1) an Amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 85-62 for Industrial and Community Retail Uses and 2) a Concept Plan for a Lineman Training & Bulk Materials Storage. This property is located at 2701 East Centerville Road. (District 2) (File Z 24-26) (THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED).]

HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM THREE F CONSIDERATION APPLICATION. OUR DELTA ENGINEERS TO OUR JULY 22ND MEETING. SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THAT TWO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

IF I'M CORRECT, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JULY 22ND, WHICH IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jul 08, 2024 Plan Commission

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