Aug 17, 2024 Council Budget Work Session

[ NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS Work Session Room of City Hall 200 N. Fifth Street Garland, Texas August 17, 2024 at 8:30 a.m. NOTICE is hereby given that a quorum of the City Council of the City of Garland, Texas will attend the following Council Meeting. The Garland City Council extends to all visitors a sincere welcome. We value your interest in our community and your participation in the meetings of this governing body. Visit GarlandTX.gov/Council for a full list of meeting dates. The Council Work Session Room at Garland City Hall is wheelchair accessible, and ADA parking is available on the street as well as in the public parking garage. Persons with disabilities who may need auxiliary aids or services must contact the City Secretary's Office at 972-205-2404 at least two working days prior to the meeting so that appropriate arrangements can be made. Braille is not available. NOTICE: Pursuant to Section 551.127 of the Texas Government Code, one or more members of the City Council may attend this meeting by internet/video remote means. A quorum of the City Council, as well as the presiding officer, will be physically present at the above identified location. Members of the public that desire to make a public comment must attend the meeting in person.]

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WELL. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO OUR SPECIAL BUDGET WORK SESSION ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2024, WE WILL, THIS IS SORT OF OUR ANNUAL SATURDAY. BUDGET DAY, AND SO WE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THE JUST THE, THE BUDGET PRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY SOME COLA, AND THEN, OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT REVIEWS. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. FIRST

[ AGENDA: (1) Public Comments Persons who desire to address the City Council on any item on the agenda are allowed three minutes to speak. Speakers are taken only at the beginning of the meeting, other than invited testimony. Speakers are grouped by item and will be taken in the order of the agenda. Speakers must submit to the City Secretary a completed speaker's card before the beginning of the meeting. Speaker cards will not be accepted after the Mayor calls the meeting to order. (2) Overview of FY25 Proposed Budget and navigating the budget document presentation (3) Council will consider, deliberate, and provide direction on a TMRS Cost of Living Adjustment (4) Department presentations on FY25 Proposed Budget: A. Employee Compensation and Benefits B. Fire C. Animal Services D. Library E. Parks & Recreation F. Facilities Management G. GP&L H. Water and Wastewater I. Sanitation (5) Presentation of changes requested to date for FY25 Proposed Budget (6) Council discussion and deliberation on FY25 Proposed Budget (7) Adjourn]

WRONG THERE, WELL GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SO WE MEET ON SATURDAYS EVERY, YOU KNOW, FEW TIMES A YEAR, IN JANUARY, WE CALL IT SIP SATURDAY. THAT ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE A LOT BETTER.

THIS IS BUDGET SATURDAY DOESN'T. IT'S NOT AS NOT A LOT OF FANFARE TO A LOT OF FANFARE. AND, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TO ENGAGE WITH YOU ON THE PROPOSED 2025 BUDGET, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION PROVIDED. WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS HERE THAT ARE GOING TO PRESENT ON SOME OF THEIR, SOME OF THEIR PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET ITEMS. AND SO I WANT TO WALK THROUGH BRIEFLY WHAT OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THE KIND OF THE PROGRESSION OF THINGS. SO THIS YEAR'S THIS YEAR'S BUDGET HAS BEEN PREPARED WITH AN EYE TO THE FUTURE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO AT THE BEGINNING HERE, TALK ABOUT TEN YEAR BUDGET FOCAST. AND COLA IS GOING TO BE A PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS. BUT TO BEGIN WITH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET PRIORITIES, THE NAVIGATING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, TO HELP YOU HELP YOU FIND THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF TREES THAT WENT INTO THIS BUDGET DOCUMENT, AND WE JUST KILLED A FEW MORE OF THIS THIS MORNING WITH OUR WITH THE PAPERS THAT WE PRESENTED AS WELL. LOTS OF INFORMATION THERE, WHEN WE GET TO THE COLA CONVERSATION COUNCIL, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION SPECIFICALLY ON THAT, ON THAT ITEM AND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN REGARDS TO A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR RETIREES. NOT A NOT A FORMAL VOTE, JUST A THUMBS UP. THUMBS DOWN. ARE WE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THAT ITEM? SO WE'LL PAUSE FOR SOME CONVERSATION AND DELIBERATION AFTER WE INTRODUCE THE COLA. WHEN WE GET TO THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS, YOU'LL NOTICE THE LIST IS A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER. THIS YEAR, OUR BUDGET FOR 2025 DOESN'T COME WITH MUCH FLAIR. IT'S PRETTY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. PRETTY BASIC. BUT THERE ARE SOME ITEMS IN THERE THAT WE WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO. AND OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ITEMS OR QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE BUDGET, IF THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WORK SESSIONS COMING UP, SO PLEASE JUST QUEUE THAT UP FOR US. LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN IN THAT, FIND OUT OR ASK THE QUESTION AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP, AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION, AN EXAMPLE IS YOU DON'T SEE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UP THERE. OBVIOUSLY, POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A BIG PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, IF YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR, WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR PAY STRUCTURE AND POLICE. AND THAT WAS A THAT WAS A CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT FOR THE GENERAL FUND. NOT A LOT IN POLICE THIS YEAR. THERE WAS VERY FEW REQUESTS. AND SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. BUT REALLY TRY TO FOCUS ON THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACTFUL OPERATIONAL CHANGES, THERE HAVE BEEN AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE BUDGET. SO FAR. AND SO WE WANT TO REVIEW THOSE WITH THE COUNCIL, GET THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THEN LEAVE TIME AT THE END FOR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ON THE ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION AT THIS MEETING OR WAIT UNTIL ONE OF OUR FUTURE WORK SESSIONS, AS YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET PREPARATION AND REVIEW IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS. AND SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WORK SESSIONS STILL COMING UP. SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AFTER THIS MEETING, THAT'S OKAY, JUST LET US KNOW. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR AGENDA LOOKS LOOKS LIKE. TODAY, SO I

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AND SO WE ARE PREPARING TO, WE'RE PROPOSING SOME MERIT INCREASES AND MARKET ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN OUR WITHIN THE BUDGET. THE THIRD RELATES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY STREET AND ALLEY CONDITION ASSESSMENT THAT'S UNDERWAY AND OTHER LONG TERM MAINTENANCE INITIATIVES AND RELATED IN RELATION TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'LL TOUCH ON A FEW OF THOSE THINGS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. AND THE LAST ONE, AND I REALLY CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE THIS ONE, IS THAT WE'RE SEEING A CHANGE IN THE ECONOMY AND OUR, OUR GROWTH, THE GROWTH OF OUR REVENUES IS SLOWING DOWN. WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME VERY FRUITFUL TIMES IN GARLAND. OUR PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED EVEN THIS YEAR. WE'RE PROJECTING A 11% INCREASE IN OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE. THAT'S LESS THAN WE'VE SEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, JUST TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT. AND SO ONE OF THE GOALS IN THE BUDGET IS TO MAINTAIN A HIGH LEVEL OF RESERVES TO PLAN FOR WHATEVER IS COMING OUR WAY, GARLAND HAS BEEN THROUGH SOME UPS AND DOWNS, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN A GREAT RECESSION HITS, THAT COMES WITH SOME MAJOR IMPACTS. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUSTAINABLE AS WE NAVIGATE WHATEVER UNFORESEEN FINANCIAL CHALLENGES COME UP. SO SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE NEW FACILITIES THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONAL STAFFING FOR THE HOLFORD RECREATION CENTER AND THE WEST GARLAND LIBRARY THAT WILL BOTH OPEN UP. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THOSE FACILITIES OPENING UP. THEY DO COME WITH A COST AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET. IN ADDITION TO SHIFTING AROUND SOME POSITIONS IN OUR RECREATION CENTERS. OVERALL AND OUR RECREATION AND PARKS TEAM WILL BE HERE TO SPEAK TO THOSE SPECIFICALLY, AS TO THE, MAINTAINING A COMPETITIVE MARKET POSITION IN, IN TERMS OF PAY, WE ARE PROPOSING A 3% MERIT INCREASE FOR OUR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES AND MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR POLICE AND FIRE. AND THOSE DEPEND ON, ON, TENURE AND RANK WITHIN WITHIN THE PAY STRUCTURES OF CIVIL SERVICE. AND KRISTEN SMITH, OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR, OVER, OVER THIS AREA, WILL BE HERE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT, WE'RE ALSO INCREASING SOME CERTIFICATION. CERTIFICATION AND ASSIGNMENT PAY IN THE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AGAIN, TO MAINTAIN COMPETITIVE WITH THE MARKET, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW YEARS THAT WE GET TO TELL OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING AN INCREASE TO THEIR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, AND VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT. AND AGAIN, WANT TO RECOGNIZE BOTH KRISTEN SMITH AND MATT WATSON AND ALISON FOR HELPING BALANCE OUR GROUP HEALTH FUND TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE IN WE'RE IN A VERY FINANCIAL, SUSTAINABLE WAY IN TERMS OF THAT FUND. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR, THIS IS THIS IS PROBABLY A ONE OFF, BUT WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THE WIN AND MOVE ON, AND THEN OF COURSE, COLA, WHICH HAS BEEN RUNNING IN PARALLEL WITH THE BUDGET IN TERMS OF OUR CONVERSATIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON COLA AS WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE, FEW POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET. AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT SOME OF THESE TODAY, WE ARE PROPOSING THROUGH OUR TAX RATE SHIFT THAT YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT TO INJECT ANOTHER $8 MILLION THIS YEAR INTO STREET MAINTENANCE. THAT WILL BRING A NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING FOR STREET, STREET AND ALLEY FUNDING TO 41.6 MILLION. I THINK THATAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST EVER WE'VE SPENT IN A IN A FISCAL YEAR ON STREETS. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE PUTTING ONE TIME FUNDS INTO OUR TRANSPORTATION SIGNS AND MARKING PROGRAM. WE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE LAST YEAR WITH SOME ONE TIME FUNDS. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE SAME THIS YEAR TO KEEP THOSE FACILITIES UP. THERE'S SOME FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL TURF REPLACEMENT AND OTHER MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS IN PARKS. AND FINALLY, PUBLIC SAFETY.

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SO THERE COULD BE A YEAR WHERE YOU'RE SEEING HUGE SPIKES IN IN THEIR REVENUE AND YEARS WHERE IT DROPS SIGNIFICANTLY. SO WE HAVE JUST SET A BASELINE. SO WE KNOW WHAT THE GROWTH IS. IT'S 3.5% PER YEAR. AND THIS EQUATES TO ROUGHLY 8% OF THEIR RETAIL SALE. THE LANDFILL HAS BECOME ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT PROFIT CENTERS FOR THE CITY, AND IT IS A PROFIT CENTER. IT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE CITY. IT'S BECOME A REGIONAL LANDFILL, AND THE ONE THING HERE IS IT IS HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION AND DEBRIS. MAKE UP A MAJORITY OF WHAT GOES INTO THAT LANDFILL. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS CONSTRUCTION LEVELS STARTING TO REDUCE. AND TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, HISTORICALLY, WE SEE ABOUT $150 MILLION OF NEW CONSTRUCTION VALUE THROUGH BUILDING PERMITS PER YEAR. THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE LUCKY TO HIT HALF THAT 75 MILLION. SO WITH THE REDUCED LEVELS OF CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE ASSUMING AGAIN, A RETURN BACK TO HISTORICAL GROWTH. WHICH LANDFILL JUST HAPPENS TO BE SIMILAR TO SALES TAX AT ABOUT 3.9%. I'VE LISTED SOME OTHER PRESSURES AS WELL. THE FIRST IS ON FRANCHISE FEES. FRANCHISE FEES ARE HEAVILY DRIVEN OFF OF REALLY TWO THINGS. ONE IS NATURAL GAS. NATURAL GAS PRICES HAVE COME BACK DOWN TO EARTH. THEY WERE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND THEY HAVE RETURNED BACK TO HISTORICAL LEVELS. AND THE SECOND ONE IS RELATED TO CABLE AND TELECOM FRANCHISE FEES. AS INDIVIDUALS CONTINUE TO MOVE TOWARDS STREAMING SERVICES, WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OUR FRANCHISE FEES FOR TELECOM. THERE IS LITIGATION OUT THERE TO TRY TO ENTICE, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGISLATORS TO ALLOW FOR COLLECTION ON, YOU KNOW, THE DISNEY PLUSES AND THE NETFLIXES. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T BANK ON ANY OF THAT. AND WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WILL THAT TREND WILL CONTINUE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR EXPENDITURES, THERE IS STILL HEAVY COMPETITION. YOU'LL HEAR MORE FROM KRISTEN SMITH, OUR HR DIRECTOR, LATER REGARDING THIS, BUT HEAVY COMPETITION IN THE MARKET, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR CIVIL SERVICE. SO WE HAVE INCLUDED A 3% MERIT INCREASE EACH YEAR IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS ON EXPENDITURE, WHICH EQUATES TO $5 MILLION A YEAR. SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR PROPERTY TAX GROWTH, BECAUSE IT'S CAPPED IS 2.5 MILLION, A 3% MERIT. THAT'S 5 MILLION MEDICAL INSURANCE THIS YEAR. JUDD MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS TO TRY TO GET THAT FUND INTO A SUSTAINABLE, LONG TERM PATH. HOWEVER, HISTORICALLY, MEDICAL INSURANCE TRENDS AT ABOUT 6.8%, SO WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT TREND IS GOING TO CONTINUE. ANOTHER BIG FACTOR IS WITH OUR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE. SINCE 2015, THERE HAS BEEN A HUGE SPIKES IN PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE. AND YES, WE ARE SELF-FUNDED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT WE'RE REALLY

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AND THERE'S JUST MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IN OUR CURRENT FACILITIES.

THEY'RE GETTING OLD. THEY'RE GETTING WORN OUT AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS WE HAVE NEW FACILITIES COMING ON. HOLFORD REC CENTER IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. AS WE ADD ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S MORE TO MAINTAIN, THAT'S MORE TO CLEAN. SO WE HAVE 5.3% FOR OUR FACILITIES IN THERE. AS WELL. AND THE BIGGEST THING WITH THIS IS THERE IS NO NEW SERVICES BAKED INTO THESE ASSUMPTIONS. SO THIS $2.5 MILLION DEFICIT IS MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE. AND I THINK I WOULD BOIL IT DOWN TO WHEN YOUR MAJOR PROPERTY IS CAPPED AT 3.5%, OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH IS OUR MAJOR REVENUE, WE HAVE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE OUTPACING THAT. SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY LONG TERM. AND MR. REX HAHAS DOE A GOOD JOB OF LOOKING BEYOND JUST THIS YEAR WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET AND TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT IS SUSTAINABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND WE'VE CREATED A PLAN WHICH WE'LL GO OVER NEXT ON HOW WE HOW WE TRY TO GET AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THIS. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH OUR CERTIFIED PROPERTY TAX BASE THIS YEAR. IT CAME IN AT $26.8 BILLION, WHICH IS ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT GROWTH FOR THE YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE, ABOUT 60% OF THAT IS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT'S THE RENTAL PROPERTIES.

AND 40% IS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND OUR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. SO WHAT THAT EQUATED TO GETTING TO THE $26.8 BILLION IN CERTIFIED VALUES, AT 11.2% INCREASE IN 2024, AND THE BLUE IS HIGHLIGHTING WHAT OF F THAT GROH WAS RELATED TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT 1.2%. SO EXISTING PROPERTY INCREASED ABOUT 10%. ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WITH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES MAKING UP 60% OF OUR TAX BASE AFTER COVID, THERE WAS A HUGE INCREASE IN THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IN OUR MLS DATA, AND THAT FLOWED THROUGH TO APPRAISED VALUES. IN FACT, BY JUNE OF 2022, OUR AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT PER HOME PEAKED AT ABOUT $196 PER SQUARE FOOT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN? MOSTLY BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE SPIKED TO A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL, IS WE'VE SEEN IT DECLINE SOME, AND IT HAS NOW KIND OF STAGNATED OUT OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS. WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT $189 BASED OFF OF MLS DATA. SO GOING FORWARD, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE STAGNANT GROWTH IN OUR TAX BASE. BUT THEN THE QUESTION COMES UP, WELL, HOW DID WE SEE 11.2% INCREASE THIS YEAR IF WE SAW OUR PROPERTY VALUES DROP AND THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED A WE CALL OUR HOMESTEAD CAP LOSS. SO WHEN WE WHEN DECADS REVISE THEIR VALUES EVERY YEAR BY LAW YOUR APPRAISED VALUE CAN ONLY GO UP IF YOU HAVE A HOMESTEAD 10% PER YEAR. BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK TO 2020, OUR MARKET VALUE OF PROPERTY IS INCREASING AT 14%.

SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT THAT EXTRA 4% BEYOND THAT, TEN IS BEING PUT IN WHAT WE CALL CAP LOSS. AND RIGHT NOW OUR MARKET VALUE OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES IS 19.9 BILLION. OUR

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AND WHAT WE DO WITH THAT MONEY IS UTILIZE IT FOR OUR STREETS PROGRAM. IT HAS BECOME THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF HOW WE FUND OUR STREETS AND IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR FINANCIAL STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD, AND WHY SHORT TERM TAX NOTES ARE FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, SOMETHING WE LIKE IS THEY'RE PAID OFF WITHIN SIX MONTHS. VERY LITTLE INTEREST TO GET STREETS, LONG TERM DEBT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WOULD BE A 20 YEAR ISSUANCE, MUCH HIGHER INTEREST COST. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN 20 2425 IS WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE TO 0.3993, WHICH IS THE EXACT 2.37 TWO ON OUR NO TAX RATE. WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THAT IS TO ISSUE ADDITIONAL TAX NOTES OF $8 MILLION TO FUND OUR STREETS PROGRAM. THAT WILL BE PAID OFF IN JANUARY. FROM THERE, WE MOVE INTO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE TAX RATE PROPOSAL SHIFT. WE HAVE TWO COLUMNS HERE. THERE'S A STATUS QUO. AND WHAT I MEAN BY STATUS QUO IS WE USE THE SAME FINANCIAL PHILOSOPHY WE'VE BEEN USING SINCE SB TWO CAME INTO EFFECT, WHICH MEANS WE HOLD OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE FLAT AND SB TWO ERODES AWAY OUR NO ON THE STATUS QUO. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WOULD HAVE HAD A 0.666, A TAX RATE IN 2024 AND WITH A LOSS OF $7 MILLION, 2025. I MENTIONED ROUGHLY A 5% INCREASE IN TAX BASE LAST YEAR. FOR THE FUTURE YEAR, THERE IS ANOTHER HALF CENT THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO LOSE IN OUR M AND O, WHICH MEANS FOREGONE REVENUE OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF ABOUT 7.4. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO TAKE THAT LOST CAP TAX CENTS PER $100 OF VALUATION THAT WE'RE LOSING ON THE KNOW THIS YEAR AND PUTTING IT ON THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE

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AND WE ALSO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF TO OUR SENIORS WHO ARE OVER THE AGE OF 65. SO IT'S KIND OF A BALANCED APPROACH OF PROVIDING SOME TO ALL OF OUR HOMESTEAD AND A LITTLE BIT MORE TO OUR SENIORS. THERE ARE CITIES THAT TAKE DIFFERENT APPROACHES. A GOOD EXAMPLE IS RICHARDSON. THEY HAVE ZERO HOMESTEAD BUT HAVE A HIGHER SENIORS. SO SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT. AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE COMMITTEE IS WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR HOMESTEAD AND OUR SENIOR EXEMPTION? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE KIND OF EQUAL, UNBALANCED IN THE APPROACH, OR IS IT MORE TOWARDS THE SENIORS? IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT LESS TOWARDS THE SENIORS, MORE ON HOMESTEAD TO GET THE IMPACT TO MORE PEOPLE? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

AND TO BE HONEST, THIS IS SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A TAX RATE SHIFT NEXT YEAR. I WOULD RECOMMEND IT BE LOOKED AT VERY HARD NEXT YEAR TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHY. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A 1% INCREASE TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THIS YEAR. IN 2024, TAX YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ON THE IMPACT TO A RESIDENT, YOU CAN SEE A 1% INCREASE. IF YOUR HOME'S VALUED. I'LL USE THE 200,000. THAT'S ABOUT $12 A YEAR OF SAVINGS. BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE IMPACT ON RENTAL PROPERTY THERE'S ACTUALLY AN INCREASE AND THE SAME ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THERE'S AN ININCREASE. SO A 200,000 HOME VALUE FOR A RENTAL PROPERTY WOULD ACTUALLY SEE A TAX RATE INCREASE OF $3. AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUED AT A MILLION WOULD SEE AN INCREASE OF 13. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OF SB

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THREE 2209 FOR I MENTIONED THE 10% CAP LOSS RIGHT NOW, THAT AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE BECAUSE OF THAT 10% CAP LOSS IS 252 617. AFTER THAT, WE ARE RIGHT NOW PROVIDING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF 10%. THAT REDUCES THAT BY 25,000. SO THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF A PROPERTY IN GARLAND IS 227 355. RIGHT NOW, BELOW IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS INCREASED TAXES. SO YOU CAN SEE IN 2023 IS THE TAX RATE 68.97. WE ARE PROPOSING FLAT TAX RATE OF 68.97. AND THERE'S AN INCREASE OF ROUGHLY $150 OR 10% IN THE NOTES THERE. I HAD THAT BROKEN OUT BETWEEN WHAT'S RELATED TO THIS SHIFT AND WHAT'S RELATED TO TAX BASE GROWTH. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TAX RATE ITSELF BEING SHIFTED MAKES UP $54. OF THIS, $96 IS RELATED TO JUST TAX BASE GROWTH. SO WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS BACK WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STATUS QUO OPTION WITH THE STATUS QUO OPTION, WE WOULD STILL SEE A $96 ON AVERAGE INCREASE IN TAXES WITH THE TAX RATE SHIFT OPTION, YOU'RE SEEING 150. SO WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE FOR SENIORS. SO IT'S THE SAME MARKET VALUE THE SAME REDUCTION DUE TO CAP. BUT OUR SENIORS GET THE ADDED BENEFIT OF A 56,000 FLAT REDUCTION IN THEIR ASSESSED VALUE. SO THEIR AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE IS 171 355. IT'S STILL THE $150 INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR FOR THE SAME REASON IT IS ON THE HOMESTEAD AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT $109 IS RELATED TO THE TAX BASE GROWTH WITH THE REMAINDER RELATED TO THE TAX RATE SHIFT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT IS ARE THERE. WE HAVE ALREADY COVERED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWAR, MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY COMPLEX. YES. AND YET, THE BOTTOM LINE APPEARS TO BE THAT WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE MAKING, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN, BECAUSE THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY

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DEFICIT SIDE TAX, DEBT SERVICE, DEBT SERVICES SIDE. KIND OF EXPLAIN AGAIN HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE OF BENEFIT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF ANYONE IS WATCHING US, THOSE 15 PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING TODAY THAT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS MYSELF, UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY IS TAKING PLACE HERE. WE'RE CAPPED AT 3.5, WHICH MEANS ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, TAXES IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THE WAY OF INCREASING IT. AND WE HAVE TO INCREASE SOMEPLACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE DEFICITS OR THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO EXPLAIN AGAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE TAKE MONEY FROM THE OPERATION SIDE OVER TO THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE, AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US. SURE. AND I PROBABLY JUMPED INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS TOO QUICKLY BECAUSE I'M A DETAIL CONTENT GUY. LET ME TRY TO BOIL THIS DOWN TO JUST A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT'S OCCURRING. SO THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF SB TWO, WE'RE LOSING 2.3 $0.07 ON OUR TAX RATE BECAUSE WE'RE CAPPED. WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT ADDED TO OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR STREETS. WE KNOW WE NEED FUNDING FOR STREETS, SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO SHIFT THAT OVER IN THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE SO WE CAN ADD $8 MILLION TO OUR STREETS. BUDGET WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, IS WE WON'T ISSUE LONG TERM DEBT. FOR THAT.

WE WANT TO ISSUE SHORT TERM DEBT FOR OUR STREETS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LONG TIME.

LIABILITY, SO TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL ISSUE THAT TAX NOTE AND PAY IT OFF IN JANUARY, WHICH MEANS WE NO LONGER NEED THAT TAX RATE INCREASE ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE. BUT AS YOU SAW NEXT YEAR, WE DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON OUR OPERATIONS SIDE. SO AT THAT POINT, WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING, IF COUNCIL AGREEAND OF COURSE THIS IS A FUTURE COUNCIL THAT WILL HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION. THE VOTERS HAVE TO VOTE TO ASK THE VOTERS TO ALLOW US TO KEEP THE TAX RATE THE SAME NEXT YEAR, OR NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 2026, AT THE EXACT SAME TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO OUR GENERAL FUND. AND THAT'S A VOTER APPROVAL. IF THEY SAY YES, THAT MONEY WILL BE UTILIZED TO INCREASE SERVICES. IF NO, THEN WE'RE BACK TO STATUS QUO. AND BECAUSE THE OPERATION SIDE IS CAPPED, BUT THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE IS NOT CAPPED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE COMING OUT OF THE DEBT SERVICES THAN WE WILL BE ON THE OPERATION SIDE.

CORRECT. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO A SHIFT TO DEBT SERVICE TO ADD FACILITIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO ADD OPERATIONAL COSTS. WE KNOW WE HAVE A NEED IN STREETS IT'S AN IT'S SIGNIFICANT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS SHIFT THIS YEAR IS ABOUT. AND WHILE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY TAKEN IT TO THE MOST SIMPLEST FORM HERE, IT'S I WOULD THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EVEN SIMPLIFY IT.

EVEN FURTHER IN ORDER TO TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HEDRICK. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST ONE LOGISTICAL QUESTION, BECAUSE NOVEMBER 2025 FALLS AFTER WHAT WOULD BE A BUDGET WORK SESSION OF NEXT YEAR. ARE WE GOING TO RUN AN ASSUMPTION BUDGET ASSUMING THE VOTER APPROVAL, AND THEN HAVE TO AMEND IT? WHETHER OR NOT THAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE'LL HAVE TO START THE BUDGET PROCESS ABOUT A MONTH EARLIER AND RUN OFF OF SOME CERTIFIED VALUES WE WON'T HAVE UNTIL JULY 25TH. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN OFF ESTIMATES BECAUSE WE GOT TO CALL AN ELECTION BY AUGUST. SO THE BUDGET PROCESS WILL BE SHIFTED UP ABOUT A MONTH. SO THESE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING NOW WILL BE JULY DISCUSSIONS. IS PLAN B AT THAT TIME SAME TAKE THE SIMILAR FUNDING. WE'D SHIFT THAT INTO STREETS AT THAT POINT.

IF THEY IF IT DOESN'T GET IT PASSED OR LIKE WE POSSIBLE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT IN THIS SCENARIO WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING THAT BECAUSE OUR CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IS MOSTLY ON THE OPERATING SIDE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT TO I THINK RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS TOO. IS THAT COUNCIL, WHEN YOU BOIL THIS DOWN, IT'S OUR EXPENSES ARE OUTPACING REVENUES AND ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE NEED THIS EXTRA

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IT'S GOING TO CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE, PATH FOR THE GENERAL FUND. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT COLA, IT'S GOING TO ENSURE THAT ANY, ANY BUMPS IN THE ROAD, WE CAN HANDLE, AND REALLY, THIS IS WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED IN SB TWO WHEN THE LEGISLATORS DRAFTED SB TWO, THEY EXPECTED CITIES TO GO TO THE VOTERS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TAX RATE ON THE OPERATION SIDE. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. THERE'S I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE CITIES DO THIS, FORT WORTH THIS WEEK PROPOSED A TAX RATE INCREASE.

MESQUITE DID IT LAST YEAR. THE CITIES THAT STRUGGLE AND DON'T HAVE THE SAME BROAD TAX BASE OF OTHERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE CITIES DO THIS. AND THIS IS WHAT WAS INTENDED IN SB TWO.

VERY GOOD. YEAH, I AGREE I THINK THAT'S WHAT SB TWO IS GOING TO DO. AND WE SHOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND REQUEST, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT ADDITIONAL SERVICES. LET'S TAKE IT TO THEM.

AND THEY'RE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY. SO I AGREE. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE, WHERE WOULD THE SHIFT TO THAT O&M BUDGET, THE FUTURE SHIFT? WHERE WOULD THAT PLACE OUR TAX RATE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER METROPLEX CITIES, WOULD KEEP US BASICALLY RIGHT IN THE SAME I BELIEVE WE'RE ROUGHLY, FIFTH. I CAN GET THE EXACT. BUT WE'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND FIVE RIGHT NOW IN DALLAS COUNTY. THAT WOULD KEEP US THE SAME. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST TO FOLLOW THIS, MATT, OUR CITY MANAGER. SO MATT, WOULD YOU GO WOULD YOU GO OVER THE TIMELINE AGAIN ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE GOING THE COMMITTEE REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS, GOING TO VOTERS WOULD BE THAT YOU MENONED JULY. I'M TRYING TO IS THAT WHAT YOU MENTIONED NEXT JULY NEXT JULY. SO THE TIMELINE IS YOU'RE APPROVING THIS BUDGET SEPTEMBER 3RD. ON THAT SAME NIGHT, THERE WILL BE A ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE TAX NOTE.

SO WE WILL ISSUE THE TAX NOTES BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. WE WILL PAY THOSE OFF IN JANUARY WITH A SIX MONTH CALL. OPTION IS WHAT IT IS, AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR STREETS, WE WILL BEGIN THE NEXT YEAR, MEANING WE WILL BERLR HAVING THIS SATURDAY DISCUSSION IN JULY NEXT YEAR IN AUGUST, EARLY AUGUST 1ST MEETING, MORE THAN LIKELY, WE NEED TO CALL THE ELECTION IF WE ARE GOING TO DO AN. THE SHIFT BACK TO THE KNOW. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, NOVEMBER OF 2000, NOT NOT NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU CALL THE ELECTION. WHEN WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THEORETICALLY CALLING THAT ELECTION IF IT GOT TO THAT POINT BY AUGUST 14TH? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO THERE WOULD BE AN ELECTION IN AUGUST, AND I KNOW A CALL COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION BY AUGUST 14TH. THE ELECTION WILL BE NOVEMBER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE TALKING THAT WE'RE ALSO WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ELECTION REGARDING THE COLA. SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THAT WITH THAT SORT OF GO AT THE SAME TIME AS CITY MANAGER. THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU. I'M LOOKING AT, I MEAN, ISSUES AND TOPIC, DEALING WITH THIS AND DEALING WITH THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE TO THE VOTERS REGARDING COLA. WHAT DO YOU YEAH. CAN YOU CLEAR THAT UP FOR ME AS FAR AS COLA. AND WE'LL GET INTO INTO THOSE DETAILS HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MY SECRETS. GOOD QUESTION. IT ALL TIES TOGETHER. RIGHT. OKAY, AND WE'VE GOT WN WE GET TO COLA, WE HAVE A TIMELINE. THAT KIND OF INCORPORATES IT ALL TOO. BUT THE WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TAKING COLA TO THE VOTERS. WE ARE HOWEVER PROPOSING. AND THAT'LL BE UP TO COUNCIL TO FINALIZE AND DECIDE IS A MAY BOND ELECTION. AND SO THAT THAT'S IN THE WORKS AS WELL. SO WE'RE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT TWO MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. I ALMOST SAID TOMORROW. OKAY. TOMORROW WOW. SEEMS LIKE NOT TOMORROW. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT. SO YEAH, THAT MAY 2025 WOULD BE AGAIN IF COUNCIL SO APPROVES A BOND ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER 2025. AND SB TWO REQUIRES THAT IF WE DO THIS TAX RATE SHIFT, INCREASING OUR RATE, THAT HAS TO

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THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. MOVING INTO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE FEES AND THE AND THE REASONING BEHIND THEM, ON A HIGH LEVEL, FOR OUR BUILDING INSPECTION FEE, PROPOSED FEE CHANGES AS OUTLINED IN APPENDIX F, THESE ARE RESULT OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES IN 2023 AND MOVING TO A METHODOLOGY THAT IS FOCUSED ON COST RECOVERY, SO THERE ARE PROPOSED FEE CHANGES FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS PROPOSED FEE CHANGES FOR INSPECTIONS, CEOS SWIMMING POOLS AND PLAN REVISIONS. PROJECTED REVENUE AS A RESULT OF THESE PROPOSED FEE CHANGES IS AROUND $81,000. FOR OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SEVERAL FEE CHANGES ARE BEING INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, ELIMINATING OUR ABILITY TO LEVY CERTAIN FEES, THESE WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BACK IN FEBRUARY. AT THE TIME, IT WAS DECIDED WE WOULD STOP CHARGING FOR THOSE FEES, BUT WE WOULD BRING THEM FORWARD AS PART OF THE ANNUAL REVISION OF OUR MASTER FEE AND RATE ORDINANCE, JUST FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVENIENCE. SO THE PROJECTED REVENUE LOSS FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING YEAR IS A

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RECENT AND UPCOMING IMPROVEMENTS TO THETRIUM HELP MAINTAIN THE FACILITY'S COMPETITIVENESS AS AN EVENT RENTAL, AND THERE IS NO PROJECTED INCREASES IN THE FY 25 PROPOSED BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THESE FEE CHANGES, AS THEY WILL NOT BE REALIZED UNTIL FY 26, THE TYPICAL LEAD TIME FOR RESERVING THAT FACILITY IS NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR. HANG ON ONE SECOND. YEAH COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, THE PROPOSED INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTIAL, NONPROFIT AND PRIVATE COMMERCIAL RENTAL RATES, ARE THEY NOT ALL CURRENTLY THE SAME EXACT RATE? THEY'RE NOT. OKAY. ARE WE SURE? YES. OKAY.

YES IF YOU GO TO APPENDIX F, IT INCLUDES A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE CURRENT RATE IS, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED NEW RATE. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD. OVERALL, OUR CHANGE IN RESOURCES PROPOSED IN THE FY 25 PROPOSED BUDGET FROM THE FY 24 PROPOSED ADOPTED BUDGET IS 11.4 MILLION.

THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 1.5 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX, 3 MILLION FOR SALES TAX, EIGHT, ROUGHLY 800,000 FOR A GP AND A RETURN ON INVESTMENT 2.4 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH OUR LANDFILL AND DISPOSAL SERVICES. ONE TIME REVENUE RECOGNITION OF 5.4 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH ARPA AND OUR REIMBURSEMENT FOR PUBLIC SECTOR STAFFING. AND THEN ABOUT 2.5 MILLION FROM ALL OTHER REVENUE FOR OUR CHANGES. AND EXPENDITURES. WE'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE OF 11.4 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET. THIS IS COMPRISED OF ABOUT 3.1 MILLION FOR CIVIL SERVICE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS POLICE AND FIRE, 1.2 MILLION FOR GENERAL SCHEDULE MERIT, 1.2 MILLION FOR THE IMPACT OF ADDING THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR OUR NEW FACILITIES GETTING OPENED AS A RESULT OF THE BOND PROGRAM, AS WELL AS INCREASING AND ADDING SOME SPECIAL PAYS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S ABOUT A $400,000 INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CIVIL SERVICE RETIREMENT STABILITY RSV PROGRAM, 5.6 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL CAPITAL AND OPERATING EXPENDITURES, AND 1.3 MILLION IN INCREASE TO SUPPORT SERVICE CHARGES AND TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS. OVERALL, OUR PROPOSED FUNDING RESOURCES TOTAL 246.9 MILLION AND OUR PROPOSED FUNDING SOURCE USES TOTAL 246.9 MILLION, PRESENTING A BALANCED BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AS A RESULT OF INCREASES IN OUR EXPENDITURES, OUR NEW FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT TO KEEP 30 DAYS FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS A TOTAL OF 18.8 MILLION, AND WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE FUND

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DUE TO THE PROJECT SCHEDULE THAT WAS BEING PROJECTED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR GETTING THAT COMPLETED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT ARPA WAS NOT THE BEST FUNDING SOURCE TO USE FOR THAT PROJECT. SO IT'S STILL A PROJECT IN THE CIP, BUT IS NO LONGER ARPA FUNDED. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. YES. SO OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AS THESE PROJECTS COME THROUGH, THERE MAY BE MINOR SHIFTS IN THE TOTAL BUDGET WE WILL BRING THOSE BRING THAT INFORMATION FORWARD TO COUNCIL AS PART OF EACH PURCHASE AWARD. THAT INCLUDES AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING, AND WE PLAN TO EITHER BRING FORWARD A WRITTEN BRIEFING OR COMMUNICATE VIA EMAIL WHAT THE FINAL ARPA ALLOCATION IS, SO THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF HOW THESE FUNDS ARE BEING UTILIZED. IT'S JUST AS WE'RE IN THIS FINAL STRETCH, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT 7.8 MILLION IS ENCUMBERED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ASSIGNED TO PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO MEET THAT DEADLINE.

WITHOUT. GETTING INTO NAVIGATING YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, I'LL KEEP THIS PRETTY BRIEF. WE DO HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, AS WELL AS STILL SOME NEW FACES AROUND, SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR

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VERY GOOD. THAT'S IT. THANKS, JUDD. AS HE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ON THIS, AND THIS IS A SLIDE WE SHOWED BACK AT THE JULY RETREAT. AND WITH THE RED BOX AROUND WITH WHAT THE PROPOSED OPTION IS, WE'RE WE'RE DOING HERE AND WE WOULD BE IN THIS FUNDING OPTION TWO. SO THERE'S REALLY TWO WAYS TO FUND A COLA, THE TRADITIONAL WAY IS THAT YOU PAY FOR IT WITH YOUR OPERATING COSTS. AND IT'S A BASICALLY A PERSONNEL COST, AND IT'S PAID FOR EVERY YEAR.

PENSION BONDS HAVE BECOME A MUCH MORE, UTILIZED TOOL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, MOSTLY BECAUSE OUR OPERATING FUND IS CAPPED AT 3.5%. BECAUSE OF THAT CAP, IT MAKES IT EXTREMELY HARD TO ADD ANY BENEFITS OR SERVICES ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE. SO THE PENSION BOND ROUTE IS TYPICALLY THE WAY TO GO. THE OTHER REASON WHY PENSION BONDS ARE, BECOMING MORE AND MORE ADVANTAGEOUS IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN ISSUE THESE BONDS AT A FAIRLY LOW INTEREST RATE, TURN THAT OVER TO TMS, WHO CAN EARN EARN ADDITIONAL MONEY ON THAT. BEYOND THAT, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS RIGHT NOW A PENSION BOND FOR 20 YEARS, PROBABLY ABOUT A 5% INTEREST RATE. THE TMS ACTUARIES ASSUME 6.75 RETURN ON INVESTMEN. SO THERE THERE'S THAT THAT SAVINGS OF BEING ABLE TO PRE-FUND THE ENTIRE UNFUNDED LIABILITY. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS WITH THE 130 MILLION THAT IS THE COST OF ISSUING A PENSION BOND. SO THE UNFUNDED LIABITY FOR A 50% COLA WOULD INCREASE OUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY BY ABOUT 130 MILLION. AND WHAT AN UNFUNDED LIABILITY IS, IS TMS WANTS TO PRE-FUND AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING ASIDE THE MONEY NECESSARY TO COVER THIS COST LONG TERM. SO THE $130 MILLION WHEN YOU SEE THAT IS LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE, THERE'S, THERE'S ASSUMPTIONS MADE ON HOW LONG PEOPLE WILL LIVE. WHAT ARE THE INTEREST EARNINGS THAT TMS EXPECTS? WHAT ARE PAYROLL COSTS GOING TO INCREASE. AND THEY DETERMINE WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COVER LONG TERM. AND THEN THEY CALCULATE A RATE EACH YEAR. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO COVER THAT. BUT WITH THE PENSION BOND WE'RE BASICALLY PAYING FOR THE ENTIRE THING RIGHT UP FRONT. SO REAL QUICK THIS IS SHOWING WHAT THIS BENEFIT WOULD DO FOR THE CURRENT RETIREES. A TYPICAL CURRENT RETIREE, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS ALL 1700 PLUS OF OUR RETIREES IN THE TMS SYSTEM, THE AVERAGE ANNUITY IS ABOUT $2,747 A MONTH WITHOUT A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. THAT WILL BE THE SAME EVERY YEAR, NO INCREASE. SO BY 2045, THEY WOULD STILL BE GETTING $2,747. SO WHAT THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT DOES IS LOOK AT THE CPI INFLATION FACTOR AND IS GIVING THESE RETIREES 50% OF THAT. SO IF YOU'RE AT 3% INFLATION, THAT'S A 1.5% INCREASE IN THE NEXT YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE RETIREES WHO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE TMS SYSTEM, WHAT THE AVERAGE INCREASE WOULD BE WITH THE 50% COLA, YOU KNOW, IN 2025, THE MONTHLY INCREASES OF $46. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT COMPOUNDS OVER TIME. AND BY 2045 THEY ARE MAKING $834 MORE THAN THEY WOULD BE WITHOUT THE COLA. THIS IS A LOOK AT SOME OF THE METROPLEX CITIES AND HOW THEY COMPARE ON COLA. AND I SHOWED THIS LAST

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AND THIS IS GOING TO GET INTO SOME COMPLICATION. I'LL DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN IT WITH OUR WITH THIS PROPOSAL WE'RE MAKING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR ME TO ISSUE SOME PENSION BONDS, AND I'LL GET INTO THE CALENDAR HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. SO WHAT WE WILL SEE IS WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A 50% COLA EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST OF 2025. THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE TO OUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY. WE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY AT 157 MILLION. BUT LONG TERM, ONCE WE DO THE PENSION BONDS, OUR LONG TERM LIABILITY WILL BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 50 MILLION. AND AS FAR AS OUR FULL RATE, THE FULL RATE WITH A 50% COLA IS 17.92. SO THAT'S THE RATE WE WILL BE CHARGED UNTIL WE CAN ISSUE THE PENSION BONDS. ONCE WE ISSUE THOSE PENSION BONDS, THOSE RATE THAT RATE WILL GO DOWN. AND RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTION IS ABOUT 12%. THE COLA YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO BE EXACTLY AT THE AVERAGE OF THESE CITIES, 50%. THAT IS WHAT MOST CITIES PROVIDE. AND AGAIN, WE ARE THE ONLY CITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA ON THIS ON THIS METROPLEX AVERAGE THAT DOES NOT OFFER A COLA. AND IN FACT, WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT AREN'T OFFERING COLAS. SO TIMELINE TODAY, AS JUDD MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET AT LEAST A DIRECTION ON IF THIS PROPOSAL SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH IN FULL FOR FORMAL CONSIDERATION. SO TODAY WE'RE DELIBERATING ON THE 50% COLA SEPTEMBER 3RD, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE A TAX RATE. AND I'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT WHY THIS SOMEWHAT PLAYS INTO THIS COLA DISCUSSION. AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, JUST TO GET HEDGE A LITTLE BIT, EITHER THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER OR THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADDING A 50% COLA EFFECTIVE JANUARY FIRST, 2025. JANUARY 1ST, 2025. THIS 50% COLA BENEFIT WILL GO INTO EFFECT FOR CURRENT RETIREES, AND WE WILL BRING FORTH A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS NO EXPENDITURES IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE RESERVES. WE TALKED ABOUT OUR DADAYS OF OPERATING BEING AT 59 DAYS. WE HAVE SET ASIDE RESERVES TO APPROPRIATE FOR THE BUDGET THAT IS COMING UP. SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COLA COLA COST IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET. WE HAVE IT IN THE RESERVE. SO WE WOULD NEED TO APPROPRIATE THAT WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THE SAME TIME THAT

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DATES FROM TMRS OF WHEN THEY WILL ACCEPT THE FUNDS. SO WE WILL START THAT PROCESS IN MARCH. AND BY JUNE WE WILL BE BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND TEAMS BASED OFF OF LAW TO GET TO ISSUE THE PENSION BONDS AND TURN THOSE OVER TO TMRS. THEY HAVE NEVER DENIED A PENSION BOND. I MENTIONED THE THREE OTHER CITIES, DO NOT EXPECT THIS TO BE ANY ISSUES. WE'VE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH TMRS, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THEM. SO WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR ROUGHLY IN JUNE. JULY. WE WILL THEN BEGIN DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET. SO THIS IS BACK TO THE TAX RATE SHIFT CALL THAT ELECTION IN AUGUST. AND THEN THE TAX RATE IN NOVEMBER. AND WHY WE'RE MIRRORING THE TAX RATE INTO THE DISCUSSION OF COLA. IS THE COLAS ARE, TO BE HONEST, RISKY. THEY ARE BASED OFF OF ACTUARIAL NUMBERS. ACTUARIAL NUMBERS ARE THERE TO MITIGATE RISK. BUT WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THE $130 MILLION LIABILITY IS GOING TO BE THE $130 MILLION LIABILITY NEXT YEAR. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT LONG TERM THAT THIS WILL COST MORE. ONE EXAMPLE IS THEY LONG TERM ARE ASSUMING INFLATION IS AT 2.5%. WELL, WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

YES. HISTORICALLY THAT'S WHERE IT IS. BUT WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED. THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE HAVE TO MITIGATE AGAINST THOSE RISKS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS TAX RATE SHIFT, THE FIRST SHIFT OVER TO THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE. YES, WE'RE ISSUING THOSE FOR STREETS BECAUSE WE NEED TO ISSUE FUNDS FOR STREETS. BUT I MENTIONED WE WILL PAY THAT OFF IN JANUARY. THIS PROCESS IS STARTING SOON. AFTER THAT, WE AT LEAST HAVE CUSHION IF COUNCIL WANTS IT TO MITIGATE AGAINST ANY INCREASES TO THAT UNFUNDED LIABILITY IF THEY OCCUR, THEN ONCE WE ISSUE THE PENSION BONDS, IT GETS INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. EVERY SINGLE CITY THAT I LISTED EARLIER THAT ISSUED PENSION BONDS, YOU NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES. AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE MARKET, BECAUSE OF MARKET VOLATILITY, TMRS ASSUMPTIONS WEREN'T THE SAME. AND THIS MOSTLY CAME WITH WITHIN THEIR INVESTMENTS. AND THEY WERE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE ENTIRE MARKET SAW A HUGE DECREASE. SO DID TMRS. I MENTIONED THE 6.75% INVESTMENT EARNINGS. NOT THEY DIDN'T MAKE EVEN CLOSE. NOW THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RISK MITIGATION FACTORS AND THEY COVERED THAT. BUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HIT THAT MARK, ALL THOSE CITIES NOW HAVE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST HAVE ADDITIONAL CUSHION ON OUR OPERATIONS TO COVER ANY ADDITIONAL UNFUNDED LIABILITIES OR UNFORESEEN CHALLENGES THAT MAY COME UP DUE TO THE COLA. AND I'VE LISTED THOSE RISK MITIGATION FACTORS HERE. SO TO START, WE HAVE ADDED $7 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES FROM BETTER THAN ANTICIPATED RESULTS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. I MENTIONED EARLIER SALES TAX DATA CENTERS, ONE TIME INCREASES. THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS. SO WE HAVE SET THAT ASIDE IN OUR RESERVES. THIS $7 MILLION WILL BE UTILIZED IF COUNCIL AGREES TO THIS PROCESS AFTER JANUARY, WE WILL BE HAVING TO PAY MONTHLY MONTHLY INCREASES TO TMRS. SO COME JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. AND IF YOU RECALL BACK TO THE CALENDAR, I'M NOT ISSUING PENSION BONDS TO HOPEFULLY IN JUNE. SO WE HAVE SET ASIDE A BUFFER IN TO PAY THOSE DOWN WITH ONE TIME CASH RESERVES UNTIL THE PENSION BONDS ARE ISSUED. I MENTIONED THE SHIFT OF THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE PROVIDES A BUFFER IF THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY

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THEY WILL DO THEIR OWN CALCULATIONS TO INCREASE THAT UNFUNDED LIABILITY BECAUSE THEY THEY KNOTHE VOLATILITY THAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH A DEBT ISSUANCE. YOU DID IT. YOU ISSUED THE DEBT. IT'S A FIXED RATE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. ONE OTHER MITIGATION FACTOR IS TMRS RATES FLUCTUATE NOT MUCH, BUT SLIGHTLY. EVERY YEAR YOU'LL SEE IN CHRIS AND SMITH'S PRESENTATION THAT THIS LAST YEAR IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A AND THEE WAS SOME SAVINGS, ONE RATE MITIGATION THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE NEXT YEAR. AND THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS LONG TERM TO SET KIND OF A BASELINE RATE. I MENTIONED 12.5 BEFORE. WE ARE AT 11.2 RIGHT NOW. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE WOULD JUST BUDGET AT, SAY, 12.5% EVERY YEAR IF WE COME IN UNDER, WE'RE PAYING TAMARA'S THAT BASELINE. IF WE COME IN OVER, WE'RE PAYING THE OVER. SO WE WILL SET KIND OF A BASELINE RATE TO PAY OFF ADDITIONAL RISK. THAT MAY COME IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S A LOT. BUT IN GENERAL, IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST DIRECTION TO BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE, TO START THIS PROCESS, TO GET AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO INCREASE THE OR TO PROVIDE A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT WITH NO CATCH UP PROVISION. THIS WILL BE REPEATING EVERY YEAR TO OUR RETIREES OF 50%. VERY GOOD COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR. I KNEW MATT WOULD GET TO IT, SO RATING AGENCIES HE THAT'S ONE OF OUR FAVORITE DISCUSSION SUBJECTS. SO THANK YOU FOR HITTING ME OFF ON THAT. MATT, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE MULTIPLE CITIES LISTED AND WHAT WHAT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. CAN YOU SUMMARIZE AGAIN ON ANOTHER SLID? WHAT THAT HAD THE OPTIONS. THE 30, THE 50, THE 70. THERE THERE. IN THE INTEREST OF SUSTAINED AFFORDABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY, WHY IS THE PROPOSAL, AS YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US, YOU FEEL THE BEST IS THE BEST PROPOSAL TO ACHIEVE BOTH AFFORDABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND YOU USED THOSE TERMS MULTIPLE TIMES. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO US AND OUR VIEWING PUBLIC WHY THOSE TWO THINGS ARE SO CRITICAL? SURE, THE FIRST IS, THE LEGISLATURE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A KETCHUP, NO KETCHUP. THERE'S TWO COLUMNS FOR 50%. AND YOU CAN SEE THE KETCHUP IS A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT THAN THE NON KETCHUP. SO WITH THE LEGISLATURE, DID WAS ALLOW A THREE YEAR WINDOW FOR CITIES TO OPT BACK INTO COLAS WITHOUT PAYING. WHAT IS PAYING WHAT IS CALLED THE KETCHUP PROVISION OR THE RETROACTIVE PROVISION. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS TYPICALLY IN PRIOR TO THIS LAW WITH TMRS, IF WE SHUT IT OFF, WE SHUT IT OFF.

IN 2009, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2009 AND CATCH UP. ALL THOSE RETIREES COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. WHAT THIS LEGISLATION DID WAS REMOVE THAT OPTION FOR A THREE YEAR WINDOW, WHICH REDUCES COST. NOW, COLAS ARE STILL EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, AND WHY THEY ARE IS BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD, DOESN'T GO AWAY, AND THE LOOK FORWARD ISN'T JUST RETIREES, IT'S ME. IT'S ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE AND PROJECTING THAT OUT AS WELL. SO THAT'S ONE THING ON AFFORDABILITY IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LEGISLATIVE WINDOW. THE SECOND IS ONCE YOU GET BEYOND 50% COLA, IT IS MY OPINION. YES. WE HAD A 70% COAL IN 2009. WE TURNED THAT 70% COAL ON IN 1999. SO FOR TEN YEARS WE HAD A 70% COLA. REPEATING IT IS MY OPINION. WE WERE NEVER THAT WAS NEVER SUSTAINABLE. YES, TMRS HAD HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR ACTUARIAL ASSUMPTIONS, BUT WE SHOWED YOU OUR DEFICIT. WE SHOWED YOU HOW MODEST THIS COMMUNITY IS. A 70% COLA IS JUST TOO MUCH TO ASK BASED OFF OF OUR REVENUE, RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE LOOKED VERY HARD LONG TERM AT A 50% NON RETRO COLA. WE SET ASIDE THOSE RISK MITIGATION FACTORS.

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WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR THE WORSE AND WE'VE DONE THAT. SO FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT, IT'S TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THIS WINDOW. AND ALSO BY ISSUING PENSION BONDS, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING THIS FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND. OVER TIME. YOU CAN JUST PAY FOR IT UP FRONT.

TAMAREZ HOPEFULLY WILL EARN MORE INTEREST THAN WE'RE PAYING. SO THAT'S A BENEFIT. AND THEN FROM A RISK MITIGATION STANDPOINT, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE SET ASIDE THE RESERVES AND MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THAT THIS MAIN SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FROM THE GET GO, IS THIS HAS TO BE SUSTAINABLE. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MATT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK, I ON SLIDE SEVEN, YOU MENTIONED THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS A DECREASE IN THE TALKING ABOUT TMRS FLUCTUATIONS, WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT DECREASE IN THE MONETARY VALUE OF IT? THE MONETARY VALUE IS OVER 400,000 CITYWIDE. I THINK THE DECREASE WAS ROUGHLY 0.2. OKAY SO NOT NOT NOT TERRIBLY LARGE. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MORE THEY DO A LOT OF SMOOTHING NOW. SO WITH THEIR ACTUARIAL ASSUMPTIONS. SO A LOT THERE'S NOT USUALLY HUGE SPIKES BUT THERE IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE TWEAKS OKAY. AND HAVE HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE RETIREE GROUPS ABOUT THIS OPTION. AND WERE THEY GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO WE, AFTER OF COURSE, WE HAD OUR JUNE WORKSHOP. WE DID OUR BUDGET BRIEFINGS WITH CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN WE DID WE HELD A MEETING WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE ASSOCIATIONS, AND THIS WAS IN ADVANCE OF THEM GOING TO THEIR ASSOCIATIONS AND SORT OF TALKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE POPULATION AS WELL, OVERALL, I THINK THERE'S SUPPORT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF, ESPECIALLY OF THE ASSOCIATIONS. THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

BUT I THINK THE PROPOSAL WAS RECEIVED WELL, OTHER THAN SOME, I GUESS, KIND OF ROUTINE QUESTIONS FROM EMPLOYEES. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY ANYTHING THAT WOULD SORT OF SWAY US FROM THE PATH WE'RE ON, I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WE ARE PLANNING AFTER AFTER TODAY'S MEETING TO REACH BACK OUT TO OUR RETIREES. WE HAVE AN EMAIL LIST THAT WE'VE BEEN SHARING INFORMATION ON AND THEN A WEBSITE THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING INFORMATION ON AS WELL. SO AFTER FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE COMMUNICATION WITH EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS SECTION? NO. AND AS WAS MENTIONED, GOING IN, STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO CONTINUE MOVING THIS PATH FORWARD. SO IN GENERAL, CONSENSUS APPROVAL GOING FORWARD, COUNCIL MEMBER BASE.

SORRY. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. WE WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PATH. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE ALL NEED TO KIND OF, KIND OF JUST LET, LET LET OUR BRAINS LOOSE FOR A MINUTE. SO LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 1020, ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING. WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS.

WE ARE IN A SPECIAL BUDGET MEETING ON AUGUST 17TH, 2024, WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS OUR DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS, COUNCIL, DEPENDING ON THE PRESENTATIONS AND THEIR LENGTHS AND THE QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE TAKING A LUNCH BREAK HERE IN A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR OR SO. SO WE'LL SEE, KIND OF WHEN IT ARRIVES AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PRESENTATIONS. AND WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER BREA. SO WITH THAT, FIRST UP IS, LET'S SAY FOR A EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS. THERE SHE IS. IT'S LIKE THE PRESENTATION IS HERE. WHERE'S THE PRESENTER? I HEARD MY NAME SO MUCH UPSTAIRS. I THINK I COULD YOU CAN CONSIDER MY PRESENTATION FINISHED AT THIS

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TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND SEVERAL OTHER CHANGES THAT IMPACT EMPLOYEES. SO NOT JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE, WE'VE ALSO DONE SEVERAL CITY WIDE SURVEYS GETTING FEEDBACK FROM EMPLOYEES ON, YOU KNOW, THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR TOTAL REWARDS PACKAGE, WHAT YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGES THEM, AND KEEPS THEM HERE WITH US, AND ALSO WAYS THAT WE CAN ATTRACT AND PROMOTE THE CITY OF GARLAND AS A AS A PREFERRED EMPLOYER, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING FOR MANY, MANY OUTLETS TO GET FEEDBACK, WE KNOW COLA, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, BOTH OUR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND OUR RETIREES COME TO SPEAK ON THAT. AGAIN, J JUST MANYMANY PATHWAYS TO ELEVATE THE VOICE OF THE ORGANIZATION. AND I THINK THAT HAS DRIVEN A LOT OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE HAD SO FAR. SO THAT'S ON COMMUNICATION. I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WORKING REALLY GREAT, THAT WE'RE CONTINUING LIKE PUBLIC SERVICE RECOGNITION WEEK. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN. IT REALLY TAKES KIND OF EVERYBODY TO GET THOSE INFORMATIONAL VIDEOS OUT TO REALLY CONNECT THE COMMUNITY TO WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES DOAY IN AND DAY OUT. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL FOR COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEES FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOW THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR WITH

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AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST A COUPLE OF OCCURRENCES THAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR. BUT THEY'RE VERY MEANINGFUL AND VERY IMPACTFUL TO OUR TEAM. WE ALSO HAVE THE TEAM GARLAND LEADERSHIP AWARD. AND AS YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT MY PRESENTATION OF KIND OF INCLUDED SOME OF THE BUDGETARY ASPECTS AS WE GET TO THOSE POINTS, BUT ALSO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE EFFORTS OF THE YEAR. BUT OUR TEAM GARLAND LEADERSHIP AWARD, OUR MANAGING DIRECTORS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, CAN NOMINATE EMPLOYEES, AND WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DIRECTORS AT A STAFF MEETING EVERY MONTH. AND WE USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY RECOGNIZE AND THANK EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. SO I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, AND THAT GOES TOWARDS BOTH THE COST OF SOME OF OUR RECOGNITION PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS EXPANDING SOME OF OUR AWARDS. JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS TYPE OF RECOGNITION. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, BACK TO A FRESH LENS AND KIND OF HAVING AT LEAST THE FEELING OF BEING AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, TWO, A COUPLE OF VERY DIFFICULT YEARS AS FAR AS JUST BEING ABLE TO STAFF TO MEET EVEN BASIC SERVICES. IT'S ALLOWED US TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REEVALUATE AND ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE DIALOG AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO EMPLOYEES? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE OR CONTINUE? AND IF SO, IS THERE FUNDING OR OTHER RESOURCE IMPLICATION THERE? SO AS FAR AS BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCE, CIVIL SERVICE TESTIN, LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE BRINGING EMPLOYEES INTO THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS ONCE THEY ARE IN PLACE, HOW WE ARE INVESTING IN THEIR LEADERSHIP AND CONTINUED ADVANCEMENT, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH OUR POLICE AND FIRE STAFFING, POLICE AND FIRE IS BASED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER OR A FIREFIGHTER, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A STANDARDIZED TEST. AND THAT ALSO APPLIES AT ANY POINT FOR PROMOTIONAL EXAMS. SO IF YOU WANT TO PROMOTE TO A HIGHER LEVEL RANK, YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN STANDARDIZED TESTING. AND THAT IS GOVERNED UNDER STATE REGULATION, BUT WE FOR POLICE AND FIRE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CHIEFS ON OUR CIVIL SERVICE TESTING. AND WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM FOR POLICE. WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TESTING FREQUENCY, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM CHIEF BRYAN, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, STAFFING FOR POLICE HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC. AND SO WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TESTING VOLUME AND WE ARE FINALLY AT A

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BUT THE TEST ITSELF IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT. SO, SEEING LOTS OF LOTS OF INCREASES IN BOTH THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLY AND SHOW UP AND THE OUTCOMES ONCE THEY DO SHOW UP. AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH CHIEF BRYAN AND CHIEF LEE IN THIS AREA. IN ADDITION TO CIVIL SERVICE, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE HAVE GAINED MOMENTUM WITH RECRUITING, WE WANT TO YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY BARRIERS TO ENTRY. IF PEOPLE WANT TO WORK FOR THE CITY, THEY'RE QUALIFIED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A PATH FOR THAT. SO WE STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO ASKING AND INVESTING IN DIVERSITY OUTREACH, MAKING SURE THAT OUR JOBS ARE PUSHED OUT TO A VERY WIDE AUDIENCE, BUT AGAIN, THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON CIVIL SERVICE AS WELL AS DIRECTOR AND ABOVE RECRUITMENT PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS, THIS FALL WE'RE PLANNING TO FULLY LAUNCH OUR FAIR CHANCE HIRING PROGRAM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN SELECTED POSITIONS, A DIFFERENT VIEW ON THE BACKGROUND REQUIREMENTS. IF IT IS NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO A BONA FIDE JOB REQUIREMENT. SO PROVIDING THOSE APPLICANTS WITH A PATHWAY TO HIRE AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS, GED PROGRAMS, ESL PROGRAMS, AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO DALLAS

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BEFORE I GET TOO FAR IN THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANT TO PAUSE TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO FAR. DEPUTY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, LOOK, HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO FAR, ARE THERE ANY, BACK TO SLIDE 16? ARE THERE ANY PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE LIBRARIES TO PROVIDE, SOME OF THESE RESOURCES TO EMPLOYEES? DO YOU ALL EVER PARTNER WITH THEM TO DO NOT, NOT DIRECTLY? NO, WE HAVE NOT PARTNERED WITH THE LIBRARY. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE CONTENT IS WILL LIVE WITHIN OUR WORKDAY SYSTEM. THAT WAY WE HAVE BETTER METRICS, BETTER, WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE IMPACT. I KNOW THE LIBRARY DOES OFFER SOME COMMUNITY RESOURCES, BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE HAVE NOT PARTNERED WITH THEM TO ACTUALLY DELIVER PROGRAMS TO EMPLOYEES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SURE. OKAY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT AREA AS FAR AS LOOKING AT WITH A FRESH LENS, REALLY HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS AND SOME E ENHANCEMES AROUND OUR HEALTH BENEFITS AND OUR EMPLOYEE CITY CARE CLINIC, SO HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, TO MATT'S POINT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A

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SO THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE, THAT WE EXPEDITE OUR JOB FAMILY STUDIES THROUGH OUTSOURCING THAT, TO A CONSULTING PARTNER AND REALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE HANDLE PAY PRACTICES ACROSS THE BOARD. SO, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, VERY COMMON IN ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE FUNDING FOR LARGE SCALE, LARGE SCALE COMPENSATION PLANNING SO THAT ALL OF OUR COMPENSATION DECISIONS ARE, WELL INFORMED AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON MERIT AND CIVIL SERVICE, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE A PLAN FOR ALL OF OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE MAJOR INVESTMENTS TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. SO THIS IS HELPING US TO DEVELOP A BETTER BLUEPRINT AROUND COMPENSATION AS A WHOLE. AND NOT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, TWO FOCUS AREAS THAT NORMALLY GET THE MOST, THE MOST INPUT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.

THIS 150,000 IS CONTINUING. WE HAVE ADDED THIS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS JUST TO OFFSET IF THERE IS A NEED FOR MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. SAY WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STUDY THE LIBRARIANS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST MENTIONED LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE FALLEN BEHIND BEING ABLE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR INSTEAD OF JUST AT ONE TIME. SO THAT WE KEEP UP THE MOMENTUM AROUND OUR COMPENSATION CHANGES. ALL RIGHT. I NORMALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT GROUP HEALTH, BUT WE HAVE, THE INITIAL TRIGGER POINT WAS FINDING A NEW BENEFIT BROKER. AND SO WE DID THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC, BENEFITS BROKER TEAM IN HUB INTERNATIONA.

AND THEY VERY QUICKLY CAME IN AND HELPED US TO REEVALUATE KIND OF EVERY ASPECT OF OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. AND SO WE'VE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE IN REALLY EVALUATING, GOING OUT FOR BID FOR MANY OF OUR SERVICES. WE ACTUALLY JUST FINISHED, WHICH WILL BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 3RD COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA. WE JUST FINISHED A MAJOR RFP FOR ALL OF OUR BENEFIT SERVICES. SO FOR HEALTH, PRESCRIPTION STOP LOSS VISION DENTAL. AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO RENEGOTIATE OUR TERMS. IT HELPS US WITH ALLOWANCES, AND IT REDUCES THE COST OF OFFERING OUR PLOYEE BENEFITS OVERALL, SO BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE ARE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION WITH OUR BENEFITS. IT DEFINITELY GOES IN WAVES, BUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE APPROACH OF REEVALUATION HAS REALLY PAID OFF. SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT, DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE AND WHY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP INCREASES FLAT FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. SO I DO EXPECT IT TO CONTINUE. WE CAN'T CONTROL CLAIMS THAT COME IN, BUT FOR THE AREAS THAT WE CAN CONTROL, LIKE COST CONTAINMENT AND HELPING EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR UTILIZATION DRIVES THESE COSTS, I THINK WE'VE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. AND A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF, CITY LEADERSHIP SUPPORT AND OUR, BROKER PARTNERSHIP, TAKING A FRESH LENS. AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT OUR ACTUAL PROGRAM COVERAGES IN CERTAIN AREAS AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH COST SAVINGS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME RIGHT SIZING, FOR SOME OF OUR BENEFITS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED IN MANY YEARS. AND SO OUR DENTAL COVERAGE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, THESE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH OUR PREMIUM PLAN, $1,500 FOR ORTHODONTIA WOULD BE A LIFETIME MAXIMUM. SO IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A KID GETS BRACES ONCE THEY HIT 1500, THAT'S THE MOST THE PLAN IS EVER GOING TO COVER.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN WAS ON THE LOWER END. SO WE HAVE RIGHT SIZED, THOSE PROGRAM COVERAGES, TO ALIGN MORE WITH WHAT THE MARKET TRENDS ARE ACTUALLY SHOWING FOR THESE PROGRAMS, SAME WITH OUR PRESCRIPTION COVERAGE. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST AGAIN, A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN NEARLY A $MILLION REDUCTION IN OUR PRESCRIPTION COSTS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE. AND WE

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SO LIMITING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS HAS HELPED WITH COST. AND WE EXPECT THOSE COST REDUCTIONS TO CONTINUE INTO THE NEXT YEAR WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED. AS I MENTIONED THIS BRIEFLY LAST YEAR, BUT FROM A PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE, I'M VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT LOOKING AT OUR DATA, LOOKING AT OUR PROGRAM COVERAGES PRIOR TO ASKING FOR FUNDING OR ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS HOW MUCH OUR SKIN CANCER DIAGNOSES ARE TRENDING WITH OUR EMPLOYEE POPULATION. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, SKIN CANCER IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING, ALTHOUGH IT'S LOWER ON COST TO TREAT IF IT'S CAUGHT EARLY. JUST THE FACT THAT THE NUMBERS ARE SPIKING SO MUCH, REALLY WAS A CALL TO ACTION FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WHO, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF CASES ARE OUT WORKING IN THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE DAY. AND SO BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE SAW AROUND SKIN CANCER, WE HAVE CREATED KIND OF OUR FIRST PARTNERSHIP WITH GROUP HEALTH AND OUR EMPLOYEE CLINIC AND RISK MANAGEMENT AND HAVE IMPLEMENTED A NEW VENDOR, SKIN IO, WHICH OFFERS SKIN CANCER SCREENING THAT EMPLOYEES CAN COMPLETE AT HOME IF THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP THEM, YOU CAN DO IT. DO IT VIA AN APP, OR THEY CAN GO TO OUR EMPLOYEE CITY CARE CLINIC AND GET SKIN CANCER SCREENING AT NO COST. AND SO WE ARE PROMOTING THIS. WE ARE GOING TO ADD THIS HELP INCENTIVIZE IT, BUT THEO GOAL IS TO GET IN EARLY DETECTION. ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET SCREENED. AND IF A MEMBER DOES HAVE A SCREEN THAT SHOWS SOMETHING OF CONCERN, THEY GET EXPEDITED ACCESS TO A DERMATOLOGIST VIA THIS PROGRAM.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO GET THIS PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT ADDITIONAL COSTS TO THE CITY. IT COMES THROUGH AS A REGULAR CLAIM AND NO OUTF POCKET FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. SO DEFINITELY A GREAT WIN. THERE WE'VE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL VISITS. SO RIGHT NOW OUR EMPLOYEES CAN GET, SIX FREE PAID VISITS FOR OUR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS IN-PERSON COUNSELING, THEY CAN GET SIX FREE VISITS PER INCIDENT. AND THAT IS BEING INCREASED STARTING IN JANUARY TO TEN FREE VISITS. SO AGAIN, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS, YOU KNOW, AN ONGOING CONCERN. WE'VE WORKED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS FUNDING. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC PARTNER ON THE POLICE AND FIRE SIDE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THAT IS PAID FOR OUT OF GROUP HEALTH, AND THIS IS A WAY TO EXPAND SOME OF THOSE SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. AND THEN LAST, I JUST WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR CITY CARE CLINIC. I GUESS I REALIZED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT ALTHOUGH CITY CARE CLINIC IS FUNDED THROUGH GROUP HEALTH, WE DON'T TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT THE CLINIC WITH COUNCIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS BENEFIT BECAUSE IT IS A FANTASTIC BENEFIT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. SO, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE A FULL SERVICE, FULL MEDICAL PRACTICE CLINIC THAT IS FREE TO ANY EMPLOYEE THAT PARTICIPATES IN OUR CITY HEALTH PLANS, SO BOTH EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES, OUR PRE 65 RETIREES AND ANY COVERED DEPENDENT CAN GO TO OUR CITY CARE CLINIC AND GET ANY SERVICE THERE FREE OF CHARGE, AND SO THAT INCLUDES ACUTE CARE. SO YOU WAKE UP, YOU'RE FEELING SICK, YOU CAN GO TO THE CLINIC. WE HAVE WALK INS FOR EMPLOYEE VISITS, EARLY IN THE MORNING FROM 7 TO 8. AND THEN FOR THE REST OF THE DAY WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS JUST LIKE ANY FULL SERVICE MEDICAL PROVIDER THAT YOU WOULD VISIT ANYWHERE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, X RAYS. WE HAVE A FULL LAB. EVEN IF YOU HAVE A PRIMARY PROVIDER THAT YOU'RE SEEING ELSEWHERE, IF YOU HAVE BEEN A PATIENT AT THE CLINIC AND ARE AN ESTABLISHED PATIENT AT THE CLINIC, YOU CAN GO TO THE CLINIC FOR YOUR LAB WORK TO SAVE COST. THEY ALSO DO INITIAL TRIAGE FOR ANY WORKPLACE INJURIES. AND DO ALL OF OUR REGULATORY DRUG SCREENING AND TESTING FOR, CDL DRIVERS JUST TO

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OKAY, COUNCILOR WILLIAMS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YO, CHRISTIAN, FOR THE INFORMATION.

I'M BACK TO SLIDE TO 26. I THINK IT IS OKAY FOR AETNA. THAT'S YES. THIS IS ENHANCED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT. YES. AND I RAISED THIS QUESTION AND YOUR NAME CAME UP SAYS S CRYSTAL. SO I'M ASKING YOU NOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE IN THIS THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SHARED. WHAT IS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. WHERE IS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS AND PARTICULARLY FIRE AND POLICE? I'M MORE FAMILIAR WITH POLICE, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT WITH FIRE. SO CAN YOU ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT SERVICES, PARTICULARLY FOR FIRE AND POLICE? THANK YOU. YES ONE I JUST WANT TO COMMEND POLICE, THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB WITH SUPPORTING THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEIR WAR ROOM. AND, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHER PROGRAMS ARE FANTASTIC. IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN MAYBE THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR, POLICE AND FIRE WERE OUR INITIAL FOCUS FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. SO THEY WORK WITH A PROGRAM. IT'S CALLED FIRST HOUR FIRST RESPONDER STRESS. AND TRAUMA, IT ACTUALLY IS A PROVIDER THAT BOTH CHIEF RYAN AND CHIEF LEE IDENTIFIED AS, AS THEIR PREFERRED PARTNER. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING THEM. THROUGH GROUP HEALTH. SO POLICE AND FIRE SPLIT FUNDING RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. BUT THEY OFFER ONGOING EVALUATIONS, THEY OFFER WORKSHOPS, DOCTOR TEA, WHO IS, THE HEAD OF THE FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM. SHE COMES OUT AFTER A MAJOR INCIDENT. SHE HELPS THEIR PEER SUPPORT TEAMS. AND SO THEY HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM ALREADY THAT WE FUND AND ARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDING THAT THEY GET FROM OTHER AREAS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO AND HAS CONTINUED IN ADDITION TO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH FIRST, WE ALREADY OFFER THROUGH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, INPATIENT AND OUTPATIENT SERVICES. THE EAP SESSIONS THAT I MENTIONED, THE SIX FREE SESSIONS, THE WAY THAT WORKS IS, YOU KNOW, SAY, I'M GOING FOR, A DIVORCE. OKAY. SO I'M STARTING COUNSELING. I MAY GO TO MY INITIAL SIX SESSIONS, WHICH WILL NOW BE TEN NEXT YEAR, BUT I GO TO THOSE SESSIONS FOR FREE. AND THEN ONCE MY SIX SESSIONS END, IF I'M STILL BEING TREATED FOR THAT SAME CONDITION, THEN EMPLOYEES WOULD TYPICALLY USE THEIR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD HEALTH CARD TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL SESSIONS. SO ALL OF THAT FRAMEWORK IS ALREADY IN PLACE, WE'RE JUST ENHANCING THAT. AND SO EVERY YEAR I MEET WITH THE CHIEFS, THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON ON EACH OF THEIR TEAMS THAT I ALSO WORK WITH. AND THEY WE COME UP WITH THE PROGRAMING AND THEN THEY TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT. SO IT STAYS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWNERSHIP. THEY JUST UTILIZE MY PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE SURE THERE'S FUNDING THERE. AND THAT COMES FROM GROUP HEALTH. SO LOTS OF GREAT PARTNERSHIPS FOR THEM. AND THIS IS JUST EXPANDING SOME OF THAT TO OTHER EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

AND BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE THEY ARE THEY FAMILY FRIENDLY? WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS THERE A NEED IF EITHER FIRE POLICE IF WHATEVER IS GOING ON NEEDS TO INVOLVE THEIR FAMILIES, DOES IT COVER, DOES IT, IS IT INCLUSIVE? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR FAMILIES TO PARTICIPATE ON AN INDIVIDUAL AS NEEDED BASIS IN THOSE PROGRAMS? SO BOTH BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD, AS WELL AS AETNA, IT'S FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. SO THAT'S IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. AND THEN THE FIRST PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED, THEY DO OFFER COUPLES CLASSES. THEY OFFER COUPLES PROGRAMS. THEY OFFER SOME FAMILY SUPPORT. SO IT REALLY IS JUST WHAT THE CHIEFS FEEL IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR OFFERINGS FOR THE YEAR AT THAT TIME. AND DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS FROM YEAR TO YEAR, THEY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES BRING IN FIRST TO OFFER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS AND WE'RE NORMALLY ABLE TO FIND FUNDS FOR THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP. OKAY.

SO IS THAT THROUGH YOUR BUDGET OR IT'S THROUGH GROUP HEALTH. GROUP HEALTH OKAY OKAY OKAY. ALL

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THERE IS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER ADJUSTMENT FOR FIRE THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, INCREASED POLICE FIRE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME WITH THEIR AVERAGE YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGES, WHEN WE DID DO OUR MARKET STUDIES FOR OTHER CITIES, WE DID SEE THAT THEY ALSO INCREASED THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE LAST YEAR, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE FOR FIRE IS JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS TO BRING THEM MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT IN OUR MARKET. AND THEN IN ADDITION, FOR POLICE AND FIRE, THE RETIREMENT STABILITY BENEFIT, THIS IS AN ONGOING FUNDING COMMITMENT TO INCREMENTALLY RAISE BOTH THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTIONS, FOR THIS BENEFIT, IT HAS, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF PARTICIPATION, ALMOST MORE THAN 90% PARTICIPATION. AND AGAIN, POLICE AND FIRE, THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIAL SECURITY. SO THIS IS PROVIDING THEM AN ADDITIONAL RETIREMENT BENEFIT. AND THEN JUST A QUICK MENTION AND I'M PLANNING TO COME BACK ON LATER IN THE YEAR WITH MORE AROUND RISK MANAGEMENT. I DON'T TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT RISK MANAGEMENT, BUT IT IS, ONE OF MY DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY, I THINK THERE IS SOME BENEFIT IN HELPING TO EDUCATE COUNSEL AROUND OUR WORKER'S COMPENSATION PRACTICES. BECAUSE SOME OF THE DECISIONS AROUND WORKER'S COMP END UP IN FRONT OF YOU. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, INFORMED AND EQUIPPED TO HAVE THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION. IF THEY DO PRESENT THEMSELVES. SO I'LL BE COMING BACK WITH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, JULIE WHITEMAN, TO SHARE MORE. BUT THE REASON WHY I INCLUDED IT TODAY IS, ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE FOR OUR RENEWALS AND HOW WE COVER, COVER OUR RISK IN THIS AREA. WE DO HAVE A NEED TO BE MORE AGILE. WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS, AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR US TO FULLY GO THROUGH THTHE COUNCIL PROCESS TO DO THAT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE COME THROUGH AS A REQUEST IN THE REVISIONS TO YOUR COUNCIL, YOUR NEXT COUNCIL POLICIES WILL BE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN OFF AT A HIGHER LEVEL ON SOME OF THE COVERAGE DECISIONS FOR OUR RISK MANAGEMENT TYPE POLICIES FOR PROPERTY AND CASUALTY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED, BUT I DID WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE CURRENTLY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I'M I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE, THE CITY CARE CLINIC MOVING TO A MORE APPROPRIATE FACILITY, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, IN A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND SURROUNDINGS, I CONSIDERING HOW MUCH IT'S USED AND THE LEVEL OF BENEFIT, BUT HAVING THAT IN A

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ANYBODY ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE ON HERE WITH. LET'S SEE. FOUR B IS GOING TO BE FIRE. CHIEF, SORRY ABOUT THAT PICTURE, MARK. THEY LEFT IT UP FOR YOU. SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS? NO COMMENT. YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE. WHERE DID SIDNEY G? OH, OKAY. AND IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT, HE'S MY BACKUP, SIR. DOES SHE OW HOW TO MAKE IT GO TO THE FULL SCREEN, OR DO YOU DO THAT? THERE YOU GO. YOU PASS.

GEE. WOW. THAT. CONTINUE THOSE CONTINUING ED HOURS ARE PAYING OFF. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO ADD TWO MORE SLIDES TO THIS. YOU PASSED THAT CLASS, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT AT ANY TIME, IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THE MAYOR WILL LET ME KNOW. SO APPRECIATE IT. FIRST THING ON THE BOOKS IS OUR PERSONNEL. FIREFIGHTER CERTIFICATIONS. PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRING MORE AND MORE, INFORMATION, MORE CONTINUING EDUCATION, THE FEES OF THE CERTIFICATION PAY HAS BEEN $100 FOREVER AND A DAY. AS FAR BACK AS I CAN FIND, WE ARE ASKING TO INCREASE THAT TO $150 PER MONTH PER PARAMEDIC IN THE DEPARTMENT. THE PARAMEDIC ASSIGNMENT PAY. LAST YEAR, WE INCREASED THAT FROM THE DAIS. I APPRECIATE COUNCIL DOING SO, AND WE WENT FROM 3030 TO $40 AND NOW WE'RE ASKING TO INCREASE TO 45. THAT IS TO STAY WITHIN THE MARKET, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ARE BUMPING THEIRS UP AS WELL. THE LAST BULLET ON THIS SLIDE IS THE HAZMAT CERTIFICATION PAY AND URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE. THESE TEAMS, THIS IS STATION TWO AND STATION EIGHT, DO A LOT MORE CONTINUING EDUCATION, A LOT MORE INITIAL TRAINING, AND THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS CERTIFICATION REQUIRES MORE C EACH YEAR AS WELL. SO WE'RE ASKING TO ADD CERTIFICATION, PAY FOR THOSE TWO CERTIFICATIONS. NEXT HERE IS HAZMAT EQUIPMENT AND HAZMAT VEHICLE, TRADITIONALLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DID HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN THE CITY. AND, OVER TIME, THEIR EQUIPMENT BECAME BEYOND END OF LIFE, THEIR TRAINING FELL APART, AND THEY'RE NO LONGER EQUIPPED TO DO THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STUFF. WE INITIALLY WERE GOING TO GO WITH ANOTHER CITY, IN PARTICULAR RICHARDSON, AND USE THEM AS OUR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EXPERTS ON EVENTS. AND BEING FROM ANOTHER CITY, THEY COME IN, THEY TAKE CARE OF THE BASE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THEM, AND THEN THEY'VE GOT RESPONSIBILITIES BACK IN THEIR CITY. SO THEY GO BACK TO THEIR CITY, WE HAVE TRAINED EVERYBODY AT STATION TWO AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. THEY'RE ALL, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TECHNICIANS AT THIS POINT, THE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE OF 150,000, WITH 50,000 OF THAT BEING ONGOING, O, EXCUSE ME, 5000 OF THAT BEING ONGOING MONEY. EACH YEAR, THE HAZMAT VEHICLE, THIS IS HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S OLD HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TRUCK. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PAINT SOME DIFFERENT LIGHTING AND RECONFIGURE THE CABINETRY INSIDE. THEIRS WAS MORE OF A MOBILE LAB. WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN EQUIPMENT, CARRYING CAPACITY, AGAIN, THAT ONE IS A ONE TIME EXPENSE OF 150,000 AND THEN 6000 GOING TO, THE MAINTENANCE FUND ON IT. PPE REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE, 76 SETS OF GEAR THAT ARE EXPIRING ON THEIR THEIR END OF LIFE IS TEN YEARS BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. WE GOT 76 SETS THAT GO OUT THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE ALL OF THOSE. THAT'S A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE OF $281,000. PERSONNEL, EQUIPMENT, HELMETS, BOOTS FOR EXISTING POSITIONS. COUNCIL WAS KIND ENOUGH. A FEW YEARS BACK TO ALLOW US TO PURCHASE A SECOND SET OF GEAR FOR EVERY FIREFIGHTER, BUT WHAT WE FUNDED WAS FOR THE COAT AND THE PANTS. SO NOW WHEN THEY HAVE A FIRE, THEY BAG THEIR COAT AND THEIR PANTS UP TO BE CLEANED. BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR HELMET AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR BOOTS.

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MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT OR PROPANE VAPORIZER. WE IN THE CIP REPLACED ALL OF OUR FIRE PROPS ON THE TRAINING FIELD, IN THE PROCESS, WE DID NOT BUDGET FOR A NEW PROPANE VAPORIZER. THIS IS WHAT TAKES IT FROM LIQUID FORM TO GAS FORM. OURS IS STARTING TO RUST OUT, AND THERE'S NO LONGER REPAIR PARTS FOR IT. SO WE NEED TO REPLACE THAT VAPORIZER. VIDEO LARYNGOSCOPES. THIS IS TO KEEP WITH THE STANDARD OF CARE IN THE REGION. THE SEMICONSCIOUS PATIENT THAT NEEDS A BREATHING TUBE, THIS IS TO ALLOW US TO USE A, A MEDICATION TO PARALYZE THE AIRWAY. AND WE CAN GET A TUBE IN ON THOSE PATIENTS WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR THEM TO GO COMPLETELY UNCONSCIOUS, IT'S BASICALLY SEDATION AND PARALYZATION. SO TO DO THAT, THOUGH SAFELY, IT'S VERY HIGH RISK PROCEDURE. SO TO DO IT SAFELY, WE GOT TO HAVE THESE VIDEO LARYNGOSCOPES. AND AGAIN THIS IS AN INCREASE IN THE SERVICE LEVEL, BUT IT IS TO MEET THE STANDARD OF CARE FOR THE REGION. A HOLMATRO EVO3 PANTHEON FILLING UNIT. MAN, I'M TELLING YOU. WOW THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY COOL. I BET I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT IT IS, BUT MY TEAM SAID FOR THEM TO SERVICE THE ELECTRIC RESCUE TOOLS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS, PANTHEON FILLING UNIT AND IT'S TO ADD FLUIDS WHENEVER WE NEED TO ADD FLUIDS TO THESE DEVICES IS MY BEST GUESS. OKAY, THEY TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME, BUT WHAT I KNEW IS IT'S A HOLMATRO EVO3 PANTHEON UNIT, SO THE LAST ITEM ON THIS MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT IS A BOATING CLOSURE. THIS IS A ONE TIME EXPENSE OF ABOUT $10,000.

IT IS TO STORE OUR SWIFTWATER RESCUE BOAT AT STATI EIGHT. CURRENTLY, THAT BOAT IS STORED AT STATION ONE, STATION EIGHT IS THE SWIFTWATER RESCUE TEAM. SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE STATION ONE BRING THEM A BOAT DURING A STORM, WE TYPICALLY START RUNNING SHORT ON UNITS, SO STATION ONE IS TYPICALLY OUR BUSIEST STATION, MOST LIKELY TO NOT BE AVAILABLE TO HOOK UP AND BRING A BOAT. SO THIS IS TO STORE THE BOAT AT STATION EIGHT TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR THEM TO DO SO, THEY'VE ALREADY PICKED OUT THE PARKING SPOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE SHELTER ON.

FUNDING REQUEST, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE REVENUE AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR OUR FEES ARE IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE METRO AREA, OUR PARAMEDIC, EXCUSE ME. THIS IS SUMMARY OF FUNDING REQUESTS ON THE OTHER SIDE. I'LL SKIP TO SLIDEE MY HEAD. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE HAVE ONGOING MONEY OF 398,000, ONE TIME MONEY OF 663,000, FOR A TOTAL FUNDING REQUEST OF JUST OVER $1 MILLION. NOW LET'S GET TO REVENUE AND PROPOSED FEES. OUR AMBULANCE FEES HAVE BEEN, $450, FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. WE ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT BY $50 PER TRANSPORT. BRINGING OUR FEES FROM 450 RESIDENT, 550 NON RESIDENT TO 505 50. EXCUSE ME, IT'S 450 AND 550. AND I THINK THIS TAKES US 5 TO 600. THE ALS ONE CALLS WILL GO FROM 500 TO 600, OR CURRENTLY 500 TO 600 WILL GO TO FIVE, 5650. SAME THING ON ALS TWO. IT GOES TO 675 775. THE MILEAGE FEE. WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT BY $5 TO GO FROM $10 A MILE TO $15 PER MILE. PROJECTED REVENUE ON THESE FEE INCREASES $160,000. TRADITIONALLY, THERE'S BEEN CONCERN ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE

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THAT'S WHO WE'RE GOING TO BILL ON THIS, GAS LEAKS. WE RUN A LOT OF GAS LEAKS IN OUR COMMUNITY AS ATMOS HIRES OR CONTRACTORS TO COME THROUGH AND REDO GAS LINES, OR THEY'RE DOING FIBER LINES OR ANYTHING ELSE. THEY TEND TO HIT THE GAS LINES. AND WHEN THEY DO, WE HAVE AN ENGINE CREW STANDING BY OUT THERE UNTIL THAT GAS IS STOPPED FLOWING OR HAS BEEN RESTORED TO ITS NORMAL STATE, IT'S VERY COSTLY FOR US TO DO THAT, AND WE WILL NOT BE BILLING ATMOS FOR THIS, BUT THE PERSON THAT BREACHED THE LINE IS WHO'S GOING TO RECEIVE THE BILL ON THIS EXTRICATION FROM CAR CRASHES. AGAIN, IT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF EQUIPMENT TO MANAGE THESE. SO WE'LL BE BILLING THEIR INSURANCE FOR THOSE INCIDENTS. LANDING ZONE MANAGEMENT. THIS IS IF WE HAVE TO FLY SOMEBODY OUT. IT TAKES A FEW MORE PEOPLE TO CONTROL THE LANDING ZONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO RECOVER SOME OF THOSE FEES AS WELL. A WORKING HAZMAT INCIDENT SCENE SAFETY INVESTIGATION, FIRE CONTROL HAZARD CONTROL. THESE ARE THE SERVICES FOR ENGINES, AERIALS.

AND AFTER FOUR HOURS, THE ADDITIONAL FEE THAT GOES ON TO IT FOR FIRE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM

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COUNSELOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MORNING. STILL. MORNING MORNING, CHIEF. MORNING. I JUST A QUESTION ONE ON THE LAST SLIDE. YOU JUST TOOK IT OUT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT. OH, YOU DID IT. YOU MASTERED THAT. NOW CHIEF, WHEN CAN YOU PROVIDE OR. MR. CITY MANAGER SOME INFORMATION TO SHOW WHAT COMPANIES SIMILAR CITIES OR WHAT'S THEIR FEE STRUCTURE? IS SOME INFORMATION GOING FORWARD? COULD YOU SHARE THAT? THAT'S WHAT WE BASED THIS ON IS A MARKET AVERAGE OF THE CITIES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION FROM. COULD YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION. NOT IN TOTAL, BUT IN PART. WE CERTAINLY WILL. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY OKAY. OKAY, SECOND THING YOU MENTIONED THE GAS LEAKS. YES, SIR. AND YOU YOU GAVE AN EXAMPLE. I WAS I PASTORED THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WAS A LEAK. THE ENGINE WAS WAS SITTING THERE. YOU COULD SMELL THE GAS. AND YOU SAID WE BUILD WE DON'T BUILD ATMOS. WE BUILD THE PERSON. OKAY. WERE YOU SAYING WE BUILD A CONTRACTOR WHO CREATED THE LEAK? YES, SIR. T ME SEE HOW I PHRASE THIS. IF IT'S IF THE IF THE FINDING IS THAT THE LEAK WAS NOT A CONTRACTOR, BUT A UTILITY LEAK, MEANING ATMOS. WHAT DO WE DO IN THAT CASE, THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION, SIR. TO THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE GAINED IS THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED LEGISLATIVELY TO BILL ATMOS. THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE. I'VE HEARD TO. YES, SIR.

SO IN THAT INSTANCE, OKAY, WE EAT THAT ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE THERE. THEY'RE ON THE SCENE. THEY DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THEY ALWAYS HAVE ANOTHER SENSE. BUT I DO SOME SITUATIONS AND NOT SO MUCH IN OUR CITY, BUT OTHER CITIES WHERE THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE. THAT HAS BEEN THE FINDING RIGHT? SO AS IN OTHER CITIES, THAT'S SOMETHING WE EAT THE COST, RIGHT? YES, SIR. IF IT BECAUSE OF STATE STATUTE. RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY OKAY. I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE. OKAY. AND, YEAH, THE INFORMATION, IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION, I'D APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK IN TALKING ABOUT GAS LEAKS. IS THAT ONLY COMMERCIAL RELATED, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AS WELL? SO IF A RESIDENT SMELLS GAS, THEY CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU COME OUT. ARE YOU BILLING THEM? IF WE'RE ON STANDBY TO REPAIR THE LEAK, IF IT'S ON THE ATMOS SIDE OF THE METER. BUT ON THEIR PROPERTY, YES. WE'RE GOING TO STAND BY AND WAIT FOR THEM TO RESPOND AND GET THAT UNDER CONTROL. TYPICALLY WHAT ON ON THE SERVICE LINES GOING TO A RESIDENCE, THOSE LINES ARE PRETTY SMALL. AND SO ATMOS WILL GET THERE AND CLAMP THAT LINE AND BE ABLE TO RELEASE US AT THAT POINT. OKAY. SO I GUESS REALLY IS THERE A TIME BARRING IF A RESIDENT WAS DIGGING AND HIT A GAS LINE, WHICH I WOULD UNDERSTAND, MAYBE PASSING ALONG THAT FEE, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CALL DIG TESTS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, LIKE. GOOD

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AMBULANCES, HOW IS THAT MANAGED? DO YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR THAT DOES THAT FOR YOU OR IS IT IN-HOUSE? YES, MA'AM. GREAT QUESTION. WE USE A COMPANY CALLED DIGITECH IS WHO WE'RE CURRENTLY USING FOR ALL OF OUR EMS BILLING. AND THEY ARE, UP NORTH. I'M TRYING TO THINK IF IT'S PENNSYLVANIA CITY, DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE THEY'RE OUT OF NEW YORK? OKAY. THEY'RE OUT OF NEW YORK, AND THEY HANDLE ALL OF OUR BILLING AND COLLECTIONS FOR BUILDING INSPECTION, BUILDING COMMERCIAL RELATED FEES AS WELL. I KNOW THAT WAS LIKE A NEW THING. SO, I BELIEVE WHEN YOU WENT TO THE NEW COMPANY, THE NEW CONTRACTOR FOR BUILDING RELATED INSPECTIONS, THE COLLECTION RATES WENT UP. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME THAT THIS VENDOR WAS EVALUATED? I MEAN, THE CONCERN IS THAT THE YOU SAID THE COLLECTIONS WERE AROUND 7 TO 9%. THAT'S QUITE LOW. SO, JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT ON THE PRIVATE PAY STUFF, IT'S USUALLY THE, MEDICAID PLUS GAP THAT WE, WE HAVE HERE. THAT'S THE ONES THAT TYPICALLY ARE IN THE PRIVATE PAY. SO THAT COLLECTION RATE IS PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE. INDUSTRY WIDE. OKAY, BUT DIGITECH, WE BROUGHT THEM IN. I STARTED IN 2016. SO IT WAS PROBABLY 2017. IS KELLY STILL HERE? KELLY, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT. NO PRESSURE. OKAY. SO ABOUT 2017, IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAYBE LOOK AT ANOTHER VENDOR. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ALL ON ON YOU, BUT, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER GO UP JUST A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE RAISING FEES, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HALF A DOZEN. SIX OF THE OTHER RAISED FEES, BUT PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING, SO. YEAH THE RAISING OF THE FEES, THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WILL COME MOSTLY FROM MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND INSURED. AND WE'LL SEE SOME SOME DECENT COLLECTIONS IN THOSE ARENAS, IT'S THE PRIVATE PAY THAT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BURDEN OUR CITIZENRY ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S A TOUGH, TOUGH ENVIRONMENT TO BE IN RIGHT NOW, YET WE'RE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE, ESPECIALLY ON OUR INSURED AND OUR MEDICARE. RIGHT. AND ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

GREAT PRESENTATION. MARK. THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BOAT ENCLOSURE. YES SIR. I'VE SEEN, DALLAS COUNTY ON THE LAKE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THEY HAVE AN ENCLOSURE ON THE LAKE. CAN YOU GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE USE OUR BOAT? WE USE OUR BOAT IN THE CREEKS AND STREAMS DURING FLOODS. IS WHERE OUR BOAT DEPLOYS. IT IS, THE BRAND ROAD AREA NEAR GEORGE BUSH IN THERE. WE THE PLACES THAT WE'VE HAD CARS GO OFF DUE TO FLOOD WATERS AND GETTING AROUND OUR BARRICADE SYSTEM, THAT'S WHERE WE TYPICALLY DEPLOY THE BOAT. IT ALSO, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON LAKE RAY HUBBARD, WE IT IS AGAIN. IT'S. I'M TRYING TO THINK IF WE'VE GOT ANY LARGE STILLWATER AND WE REALLY DON'T OTHER THAN RAY HUBBARD, AND THAT'S HANDLED BY DALLAS, BUT THAT'S THE REASON THAT YOU DO WANT THE ENCLOSURE AT, SITE EIGHT. YEAH. JUST SO THAT WE CAN HOOK UP AND GET TO OUR STREAMS FASTER AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO BRING THEIR VESSEL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

AS FAR AS THE FIRE RESPONSE TO MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISIONS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS ONE OF THOSE DAY IN DAY OUT, AND HOW. HOW THAT BILLING YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CARS INVOLVED, WHO GETS BILLED. HOW

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FOUR OF US WERE INVOLVED. ONE OF US WAS THE CAUSE. SO HOW DOES THAT THAT'S WHO'S GETTING THE BILL. OKAY THE ONE THAT CAUSED THE EVENT. OKAY SORRY. IF WE CAN DETERMINE IT. OKAY ALL RIGHT.

YOU RAN OVER PEOPLE'S TIME. I WAS I WAS SOMEWHERE, I WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOUR. AND I WAS IN THE MIDDLE, AND I DID SUSTAIN A SMALL INJURY ON MY FINGER THAT OUR PARAMEDICS REFUSED TO TREAT. I WOULDN'T TREAT YOU, SIR. AND I'M STILL VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT. BUT LET ME LET ME LOOK INTO THIS. THEY WERE QUITE AMUSED. OKAY, WILL BE WHOEVER CREATED THE EVENT, WHETHER IT'S A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EVENT. RIGHT. OR IF IT'S A MOTOR VEHICLE COLLISION, THE ONE THING I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE SURROUNDING CITY AND HOW THAT HOW THAT KIND OF SPACES OUT FOR EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I SEEONE. AND FOLKS, LUNCH HAS ARRIVED, SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A RECESS. LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS.

WE ARE IN A SPECIAL BUDGET WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 17TH, 2024. WE ARE COMING BACK TO ITEM FOUR. C ANIMAL SERVICES. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FOUR YEAR HISTORY OF ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE POSITIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD SINCE MOVING INTO THE NEW SHELTER, SO WE'RE ABLE TO ADD THREE ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS, WHICH HAS BEEN ASTRONOMICAL IN HELPING WITH OUR CLEANING OPERATIONS. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, BACK IN 2022, WE MOVED INTO THE NEW SHELTER AND NEARLY TRIPLED IN CAPACITY. WE ALSO ADDED ONE ADOPTION SPECIALIST TO HELP WITH ADOPTIONS, SURRENDERS, RECLAIMS AND INTAKES OVER THE FRONT DESK. WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO ADD ONE ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICER IN THE FIELD, AS WE ARE A HIGH CALL VOLUME CITY, WE ANSWER APPROXIMATELY 18 CALLS A YEAR. THAT HAS BEEN A BIG HELP, ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL OFFICER AND ONE VETERINARY TECHNICIAN. SO WITH THE INCREASE OF ANIMALS IN OUR SHELTER, THE INCREASE OF CARE, SURGERIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH IT, THIS HAS BEEN A BIG HELP WITH OUR MEDICAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL. HANG ON. I THINK THE QUESTION IS COMING. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE NUMBER OF CALLS? 18, 18,000. DID I SAY 18? YOU SAID 18. OH, AND I AND THEN ALL WE WOULD NEED IS ONE OFFICER FOR THAT. I WATCHED IT RIPPLE AROUND THE ROOM OF LIKE, WELL, WHY ARE WE HERE? GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. 18,000 CALLS A YEAR. YES. OKAY ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CONTINUE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT Y'ALL WERE JUST LAUGHING AT ME. I WAS LIKE. OKAY, SO I WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GENERATE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SO WE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALSAND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP US WITH HEARTWORM TREATMENT. SO THEY FUND THIS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TREAT WELL OVER 100 DOGS IN OUR SHELTER, NOT ONLY THAT, THEY'VE HELPED US BUILD A ROBUST VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THAT HELPS WITH OUR FOSTERS. AND WHAT WE DID, TOO, IS WE ACTUALLY EXPEDITED THE FOSTER PROCESS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO FOSTER AN ANIMAL AT THE SHELTER BY REDUCING THE BARRIERS OF DOING THAT. WE ALSO CREATED A BORROW BUDDY PROGRAM WHERE IF YOU WANTED TO COME TO THE SHELTER AND JUST GRAB A DOG FOR A DAY OR A COUPLE OF HOURS, YOU CAN DO THAT. SUPER FUN. YEP ALSO, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP PARTNERSHIP WITH OPERATION KINDNESS, SO WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE A SCHEDULE OF LOW COST FREE VACCINE CLINICS EVERY MONTH TO THE COMMUNITY. NOT ONLY THAT, WE ACTUALLY OPENED UP OUR MEDICAL DEPARTMENT FOR OTHER SHELTERS THAT ARE IN NEED. SO THERE ARE SHORTAGE OF VETS WITHIN THE METROPLEX. AND SO WE DO HAVE FULL TIME VETERINARIAN, AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MEDICAL SUITE AT THE NEW SHELTER. IN DOING SO, THEY'LL THEY OFFER FREE STERILIZATIONS TO OUR ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER, SO THEY'LL COME IN AND STERILIZE OTHER ANIMALS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE METROPLE.

WITH THAT, THEY'LL STERILIZE OUR ANIMALS FOR FREE. IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. SO WITH THAT, WE ARE ASKING FOR A ONE TIME FUND OF 20,000. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE ARE TAKING OVER THE TNR

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SINCE YOU CLOSED ON ON THE TOPIC WHERE IS HE? I'M LOOKING FOR CITY ATTORNEY. OH, I THINK I'M GONNA BE. I THINK I'M GONNA BE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU JUST HANG ON, THOUGH. JUST HANG, JUST HANG ON. IF HE'S WARNING YOU. STANDBY. YEAH. OKAY. WOULD YOU PUT THAT? I THINK 20,000. THAT LAST CHART BACK UP THERE. OKAY. AND DESCRIBE AGAIN WHAT THAT 20,000. WHAT ARE THOSE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO EQUIPMENT. SO WE'RE IN NEED OF TRAPS. ADDITIONAL TRAPS. WE CAN USE IT FOR OUR FOOD BANK AND OTHER SUPPLIES. ALSO WE COORDINATE WITH OPERATION KINDNESS FOR LARGE STERILIZATION DAYS. SO WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THEM. THAT'LL BE FOR THAT FUNDING. AND WE WANT TO DO THAT MONTHLY OKAY. SO EQUIPMENT AND STAFFING WHAT ADDITIONAL STAFFING STAFFING COSTS LIKE OVERTIME. WE HAVE THE STAFF BUT IF WE NEED OVERTIME OR IF WE HAD TO ADD ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY POSITIONS, WE COULD, BUT RIGHT NOW FROM A POSITION STANDPOINT WITH FULL TIME BUDGETED POSITIONS AND TEMPORARY POSITIONS, WE'RE DOING GOOD.

OKAY, OKAY. FOR THAT PROGRAM, YOU MENTIONED THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH WITH ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES, YEAH. YOU MENTIONED THAT PARTNERSHIP. DO YOU HAVE ANY ONGOING WILL THERE BE WITH, WITH WITH WITH WITH WITH THE CITY WITH US TAKING OVER THE TNR? DO YOU HAVE PARTNERSHIPS SIMILAR IN THAT AREA, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE GOT ON THAT SCREEN, AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THEY AND IF NOT, WHY IS THAT CHANGED? YES SO OPERATION KINDNESS WILL HAVE THE MONTHLY LARGE TNR STERILIZATION DAYS AND TWO, WE'VE CREATED A SNR TNR, VOLUNTEER PROGRAM WITH FRAUS, SO THEY WILL DEFINITELY HELP OUT WITH THE DEPLOYMENT. SO THE PLAN IS TO DEPLOY OUR TRAPPING EFFORTS BIWEEKLY. AND SO WE'VE CREATED THOSE VOLUNTEERS TO ASSIST WITH THAT. AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION? FRIENDS. FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS. OH, THE SAME. YES. OKAY, OKAY. I WAS I WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS SOME ORGANIZATION DIFFERENT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WAS IT DIFFERENT FROM THIS ORGANIZATION? OH, NO. OKAY AND YOU AND YOU, THAT ORGANIZATION. ORGANIZATION PROVIDE, OF COURSE, VOLUNTEER SUPPORT FOR YOU. RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THE IN HOUSE IS FOR OVERTIME, NOT ADDITIONAL STAFF AND NUMBERS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES RIGHT. AND IS THAT A 24 OVER SEVEN SERVICE, THE TNR PROGRAM IS DO YOU HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE ON ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. BUT ARE THERE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS OR REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS? CAN YOU CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR STAFF'S AVAILABILITY TO MANAGE AND RUN THE TNR PROGRAM? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. SO WE HAVE STAFF ALL THE WAY FROM FROM 7 A.M. ALL THE WAY UP TO 10 P.M, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCILOR DUTTON, HOW MANY TRAPS ARE WE LOOKING AT PURCHASING? SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LITTLE OVER 30, BUT HALF OF THAT IS WITH OUR FIELD OFFICERS AND THE OTHER HALF WE HAVE. SO WE WANT TO PROBABLY PURCHASE RIGHT AROUND ANOTHER 30 TO 40, AND WE WANTO GET THE TRUE CATCH, WHICH RIGHT AROUND 100 BUCKS FOR EACH TRAP. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD, WOULD THAT ALLOW US TO LOAN OUT, TRAPS TO PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE MAYBE THERE'S LIKE A LOCALIZED CAT TASTROPHE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO

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PERFECT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, LOOK, SO AS YOU MOVE INTO THIS NEW, TNR PROGRAM, ARE YOU GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE PREVIOUS COLONY MANAGERS THAT YOU WORKED WITH THROUGH POSSIBILITIES? SO THE GOAL IS TO WORK WITH CURRENT COLONY MANAGERS AND FUTURE COLONY MANAGERS. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON MONDAY ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A LINK WHERE THE COLONY MANAGERS CAN GO AND SIGN UP. AND ALSO AN EMAIL WHERE WE CAN CORRESPOND. GREAT. TT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. AND MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN YOU ALSO ELABORATE ON HOW A SURGEON IS GOING TO ENTER INTO THIS PLAN? YES. SO WE HAVE A FULL VETERINARIAN THAT WILL HANDLE MAJORITY OF THE SURGERIES, OTHER THAN OPERATION KINDNESS, WHEN THEY COME IN ONCE A MONTH, WE ACTUALLY SPLIT IT UP. SO WE HAVE TWO VETERINARIANS PERFORMING THE SURGERIES. OKAY. IS THERE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS BY WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OR KEEP UP ON THOSE OPERATIONS? AND THE RESULTS OF THEM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? ABSOLUTELY, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ABLE TO THAT ANIMAL COMES INTO THE SHELTER, WE'RE ABLE TO WATCH IT FROM START TO FINISH AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS GOOD BEFORE WE RELEASE IT BACK TO THE COLONY MANAGER OR RELEASE IT IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE, THANK YOU. ALL RIGH. MOVING ON TO FOUR D LIBRARY.

THE. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. CITY ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND MR. REX, I'M KAREN ARCHIBALD WITH GARLAND LIBRARIES PRESENTING THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET FOR LIBRARIES. SO OUR FIRST REQUEST IS FOR A FULL TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANT AT THE NEW WEST GARLAND BRANCH LIBRARY, THIS POSITION IS A PARAPROFESSIONAL POSITION. IT'S NEEDED BECAUSE THE NEW FACILITY IS DOUBLING IN SIZE FROM THE CURRENT WALNUT CREEK BRANCH. IS THIS POSITION WILL BE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS, IT IS A PUBLIC SERVICE. PUBLIC FACING POSITION.

WILL HELP OUT AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICE DESKS, WORK WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS, PROVIDE PROGRAMING TECHNOLOGY ASSISTANCE, AND SOME INSTRUCTION. IT CAN ALSO HELP WITH BACK OF HOUSE FUNCTIONS AS NEEDED, ONE SPECIAL THING ABOUT THIS POSITION IS WE ARE LOOKING TO, TARGET AND HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS EITHER FLUENT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH OR ENGLISH AND VIETNAMESE TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. SO ONGOING COSTS FOR THIS POSITION IS A LITTLE OVER $62,000. AND THIS YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW FEE FOR CONSIDERATION. IT'S F CONSUMABLES, SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR PRINTS AND COPIES IN THE LIBRARY, ALL OF OUR RENOVATED LIBRARY FACILITIES WILL INCLUDE A MAKERSPACE OR AN INNOVATION SPACE THAT PROVIDE ACCESS TO DIFFERENT PIECES OF TECHNOLOGY, LIKE 3D PRINTERS, PLOTTERS, A CRICUT SEWING MACHINES, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SOME OF THESE MACHINES REQUIRE MATERIAL FOR, TO MAKE WHATEVER THE PATRON IS WANTING TO MAKE. SO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GOOD, GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE, WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME OF THAT MATERIAL ON HAND FOR PATRONS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FOR A FEE AND USE IT IN THE MAKERSPAC, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS FEE, IS NOT NECESSARILY TO. I SHOULD LET ME START THAT OVER AGAIN. THE PURPOSE OF THIS FEE IS TO OFFSET ANY EXPENSE. RELATED TO THE CONSUMABLE. IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT, PATRONS WHO ARE ATTENDING A LIBRARY SPONSORED ACTIVITY IN THE MAKERSPACE, THEY WILL NOT BE CHARGED A FEE, AND ALSO PATRONS CAN BRING IN THEIR OWN MATERIAL TO USE WITH THE EQUIPMENT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THAT SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS.

AND THIS CHART GIVES YOU AN IDEA SO THERE ARE THREE, REALLY GOOD, MAKERSPACES AFFILIATED WITH THE

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OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. OUR FIRST PACKAGE FOR PARKS. AND REALLY JUST FOR MY. YES. IF YOU COULD MAKE IT TO FULL SCREEN. OH I'M SORRY, BUT THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY. EVERYONE IS IT DOWN HERE? THANK YOU. YOU'RE. LISTEN, CHIEF LEE KNEW HOW TO DO THIS. HEY. AND HE'S A FIREFIGHTER. MY GOSH.

COME ON, THAT'S PRETTY BAD. OKAY THK YOU. SO. YES, SIR. OUR FIRST FUNDING REQUEST IS FOR THE HOLFORD RECREATION CENTER AND AQUACS CENTER. THE PACKAGE IS REQUEST IS FOR $768,000. AND THAT INCLUDES ONE TIME REQUEST AND ONGOING REQUESTS. AND SO OUR ONE TIME COSTS ARE FOR ITEMS AND SUPPLIES THAT WE NEED TO GET THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE AQUATICS CENTER OPEN THAT DO NOT QUALIFY FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. AND THEN WE HAVE ONGOING COSTS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A TWO FULL TIME POSITIONS. ONE IS AT THE RECREATION CENTER AND ONE IS AT THE IT'S FOR THE AQUATICS PROGRAM. SO THE RECREATION SPECIALIST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAMING THE REC CENTER, THE ACTIVITIES, WORKING WITH CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS, OUR RESERVATIONS AND THEN THE AQUATICS SUPERVISOR. SO USUALLY IN A LARGE AQUATICS PROGRAM, YOU HAVE IT KIND OF DIVIDED BETWEEN THE WET SIDE AND THE DRY SIDE OPERATIONS. AND SO WITH HOLFORD HAVING WAY MORE AMENITIES THAN WHAT WE HAD THERE BEFORE, AND THEN KNOWING THAT SURF AND SWIM WILL BE COMING UP RIGHT BEHIND, THE NEXT SUMMER, WE REALLY NEEDED TO EXPAND OUR STAFFING AND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE STAFF THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, AND WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT AMENITIES ON THAT DRY SIDE WITH RESERVATION OPPORTUNITIES, BETTER CONCESSIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE TWO FACILITIES AND THEN SEASONAL FUNDING FOR BOTH THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE POOL.

AGAIN, A LOT MORE LIFEGUARDS WILL BE NEEDED TO STAFF THE HOLFORD AQUATIC CENTER, A LOT MORE AMENITIES THAN WHAT IT HAD BEFORE, AND THEN AN INCREASE TO OUR OPERATIONAL LINE ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY, TWO QUICK ITEMS ON THE PARK. REQUEST THAT ONE, A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ONE IS YEAR TWO OF THE WILDFLOWER PROGRAM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS AT A PAST WORK SESSION. THIS WOULD FUND YEAR TWO OF THIS PROGRAM. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF SITES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WILDFLOWERS AT. DO AGAIN, EXPAND THE SIGNAGE THAT IS IN THERE. AND THEN THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM IN. WE'VE ALREADY SOURCED THE SEED AND READY TO GO. SO WE WOULD BE PLANTING THE 1ST OF OCTOBER, WHICH THEN IS THE PROPER TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET WILDFLOWER SEEDS IN THE GROUND, BECAUSE THEN THEY OVERWINTER IN THE GROUND WHERE THEY HARDEN OFF AND THEN THEY'LL COME OUT IN THE SPRING, THE SECOND IS JUST TO COME A LITTLE BIT, FUNDING REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDING. COVERS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE FIRST IS ONE ALL ONE TIME COST. ALL OF THESE ARE ONE TIME COSTS. THE FIRST IS FOR SOME UPGRADED LANDSCAPING AT THE HEALTH ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, FIRE ADMIN AND IT AND THE SANITATION TRANSFER STATION. THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC FACING BUILDINGS THAT HAVE PUBLIC THAT CAN COME TO THEM AND ARE SORELY IN NEED OF SOME MAJOR UPDATE TO THE LANDSCAPING. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO COVER THINGS LIKE FIXING IRRIGATION, REMOVING DEAD PLANT MATERIAL AND GIVING A REFRESH TO THAT, TO THAT THE OUTSIDE, THE LANDSCAPING PIECE OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEN WORKING WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT THERE TO THEN GET THOSE ONTO A DECENT MAINTENANCE CONTRACT THAT THEN PARKS WILL HELP TO OVERSEE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY IN GOOD CONDITIO. THE OTHER IS PART TWO OF A TWO YEAR FUNDING. YOU FUNDED THE FIRST HALF OF THIS IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. THIS IS THE SECOND HALF THAT TO BE ABLE TO

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AND SO THIS HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING MAINTAINED PROPERLY. AND THEN THE LAST TWO ARE FOR LANDSCAPE REPLACEMENTS. THE FIRST ASK IS FOR $50,000 FOR PLANT REPLACEMENT AND LANDSCAPE BEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO AS WE HAVE PLANT MATERIAL THAT DIES, WE'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND REPLACE IT. AND THEN THE SECOND IS A REQUEST JUST FOR DOWNTOWN, THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE AND NEW LANDSCAPING THAT HAS GONE IN. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CAN BE REPLACED AND KEPT LOOKING THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, SOMETIMES SPECIAL EVENTS CAN BE HARD ON PLANT BEDS AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS RECOVER THE WAY THAT WE WANT THEM TO RECOVER. AND SO BEING ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND REPLACE THOSE PLANT MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN KEEP IT LOOKING FRESH AND NICE IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT REQUEST. SO A QUICK SUMMARY FOR THE THOSE COUPLE OF REQUESTS, AN ONGOING FUNDING $663,000, ONE TIME 518 FOR ABOUT 1.2 IN TOTAL.

AND THEN I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DR. LEE TO GO OVER SOME FEES. HANG ON ONE SECOND, COUNSELOR HEDRICK. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE WILDFLOWER PROGRAM. IS IT ARE YOU EXPANDING TO NEW SITES THIS YEAR? I KNOW THERE WAS ABOUT THREE LAST YEAR. IS IT GROWING WITH ADDITIONAL OR DIFFERENT OR NEW OR SAME? IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO GROW TO NEW SITES. AND TO BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T SELECTED THOSE YET. WE'RE KIND OF STILL IN THE DISCOVERY PHASE ON WHERE I'M GOING TO PUT THOSE. I DO WANT TO TRY TO DO THOSE THREE SAME SITES AGAIN, SINCE WE'LL BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE SEEDS FROM THOSE WILDFLOWERS. SO BY THEN, PLANTING ADDITIONAL SEEDS, PLUS THE SEEDS THAT WERE THERE FROM LAST YEAR, I HOPE TO GET BETTER AND BETTER RESULTS AS WE GO ON, PLUS THEN EXPAND TO SOME ADDITIONAL SITES. GOOD. GLAD TO HEAR IT'S GROWING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD, NO PUN INTENDED. OR MAYBE IT WAS. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR PROPOSED FEES AND TO GIVE YOU ALL A POINT OF CONTEXT, AS WE TALK ABOUT THOSE FEES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A RENDERING OF THE AQUATIC CENTER. AND SO WE IDENTIFIED ON THIS RENDERING THE SPACES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR RESERVATIONS THAT HAVE THE PROPOSED NEW FEES.

SO THE THREE SHADE CELLS HERE ON THE LEFT, THOSE ARE OUR CABANAS. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE FOR SMALLER GATHERINGS. FAMILY. THINK ABOUT A FAMILY OF, YOU KNOW, 4 TO 6 PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THOSE SPACES WE HAVE A PARTY ROOM. SO THAT'S A PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. IT'S INDOORS AIR CONDITIONED. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 20 TO 30 PEOPLE. THAT'S A LARGER KID PARTY. YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY THINK OF. AND THEN ONE OF THE INTERESTING DESIGN FEATURES THAT WE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IN THIS PROJECT TO CAPITALIZE ON SPACE IS THE PARTY DECKS. SO IN THE OFF SEASON, THAT IS A BREEZEWAY BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES. AND THEN DURING THE AQUATIC SEASON, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD CLOSE THE GATES ON EITHER END OF THE BREEZEWAY SO YOU WOUL'T BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT. AND WE WOULD CAPITALIZE ON THAT SPACE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE INDIVIDUAL PARTY DECKS. AND SO WE WOULD OPEN U THE FENCES THAT YOU SEE THERE IN THE RENDERING. THEY WOULD OPEN UP AND WE WOULD HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUAL PARTY DECKS. THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THOSE CABANA SPACES. SO AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE 10 TO 15 PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE SPACES. SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED FEES. SO THE ONLY OTHER POOL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OPERATIONAL IS BRADFIELD POOL. SO I JUST WANT TO PREFACE THAT BY SAYING, CURRENTLY, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO BRADFIELD, IT'S 2 OR $3 DEPENDING UPON YOUR HEIGHT. SO THAT GIVES YOU A POINT OF CONTEXT OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE SYSTEM. AND SO WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR HOLFORD AQUATIC CENTER IS THESE. SO THE GATE FEES, THE PROPOSED FEE IS $6 FOR AGES 2 TO 12. IF YOU'RE UNDER TWO, IT WOULD BE FREE. AND THAT'S CURRENTLY THE SAME, P PRE OVER AT BRADFIELD. WE DON'T CHARGE FOR UNDER TWO. AND THEN RESIDENTS 13 AND UP WOULD BE $8. WE WOULD CHARGE FOR NONRESIDENTS. WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHARGE FOR NONRESIDENTS SO THAT THOSE FEES THAT YOU SEE ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ARE $10. AND $12. THEN WE'RE PROPOSING A COOLER FEE. SO WITH THE NEW HOLFORD RECREATION CENTER AQUATIC CENTER, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME CONCESSIONS NOT FULL BLOWN LIKE MAKING BURGERS, BUT PREPACKAGED CANDY. HOT DOGS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

DRINKS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE RESERVATION SPACES, WHICH REFER BACK TO THAT RENDERING. SO IF

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PARTY DECK FOR THREE HOURS IS $60. CABANAS. YOU CAN EITHER DO THREE HOURS FOR 45 OR ALL DAY FOR 80, AND THEN THE PARTY ROOM IS WE'RE PROPOSING $120 FOR TWO HOURS. AND WE DID BENCHMARK THESE FEES WITHIN THE METROPLEX. WE HAD TRIED TO LOOK FOR OTHER AQUATIC CENTERS THAT WOULD HAVE THE SAME AMENITIES THAT THIS FACILITY WILL HAVE, SO THAT WE COULD FALL IN LINE WITH THOSE BENCHMARKS OR THOSE AVERAGES. AND THEN ALSO WANTED TO BE METHODICAL ABOUT IT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SURF AND SWIM OPENING THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL HAVE EVEN MORE AMENITIES.

SO TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND OF THAT, THAT I GUESS POTENTIAL PRICE INCREASE FOR SURF. WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT AT THIS POINT, SO JUST TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN OTHER CITIES, AS WELL AS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT TAKING CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THE RESIDENT NONRESIDENT FEE. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO FEES THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, THE KITCHEN OVER AT HOLLABAUGH RECREATION CENTER PROPOSING A FEE OF $15 FOR THAT.

AND THEN OVER AT BRADFIELD, WE'RE GOING TO THANKS TO PARK OPS, WE'RE MOVING ONE OF THE SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WAS OVER AT SURF AND SWIM AND CREATING A PARTY DECK OVER THERE THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT SAME PROPOSED FEE THAT WE HAVE FOR HOLFORD. VERY GOOD. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER HEDRICK. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'M GLAD YOU BENCHMARKED THESE FEES AGAINST OTHER CITIES BECAUSE I'VE HAD MY CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AT SEVERAL OTHER AQUATIC FACILITIES AROUND, AND HER ONE IN THIS YEAR, SHE HAS A BIRTHDAY RIGHT AT MEMORIAL DAY, WAS AT BRADFIELD AND LOVED IT. AND I KNOW SHE'LL SHE WANTS TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO HAVE HER BIRTHDAY PARTY WHEN IT OPENS THIS COMING SWIM SEASON, BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT A SEASON PASS FOR RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS? I KNOW THAT'S WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES OFFER. WE HAVE AND WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS HAVE A FULL SEASON OF OPERATIONS UNDER OUR BELT SO THAT WE CAN REALLY SEE, WH THE NEED IS OUT THERE, UNDERSTAND WHAT OPERATIONAL CHANGES WE MIGHT NEED TO MAKE FOR THAT NEXT SEASON, AND NOT POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WITH A SEASON PASS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT PASS WHEN THEY COME TO THE GATES. AND WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VISITING. CAN WE ACCOMMODATE IT? OUR BATHER LOAD, THE PUMP MECHANICAL, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE IN WORKING ORDER. BUT JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF FULL OPERATIONS BEFORE WE PROPOSE OTHER FEES LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD OPEN UP THE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS. SO IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE OPEN TO, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT PROPOSING IT FOR THIS FIRST YEAR OF OPERATIONS. OKAY. YEAH, I, WE WILL PROBABLY BUY ONE AS SOON AS YOU OFFER IT BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON HIS SEASON PASS THING. IF YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO LOOK INTO THAT, PLEASE CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD HIT ALL OF THE FACILITIES ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SURF AND SWIM AND HOLFORD AND BRADFIELD SO THAT THEY COULD GO TO ALL OF THEM, AND ON THE HOLFORD POOL FEES, YOU HAVE NOESIDENT FEES FOR PEOPLE ATTENDING THE PARK ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT THOSE AREN'T INCLUDED IN THE RENTAL FEES, COULD YOU MAYBE LOOK AT INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL NON RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT SPAM, AND THEN THAT AFTER HOURS RENTAL OF THE ENTIRE FACILITY, THAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS A LITTLE LOW TO ME CONSIDERING THE STAFF AND THE ELECTRICITY AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO OPERATING A FACILITY, AT FULL, FULL STRENGTH. SO, YOU DOES THAT COVER THAT? IT DEFINITELY COVERS ALL OF OUR STAFF COSTS ALL THE DIRECT COSTS, AND, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE WHAT CHEMICALS WE ALREADY HAVE IN THERE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE DEFINITELY MADE SURE THAT WE WERE COVERING OUR STAFF COSTS AND RECOUPING THOSE FOR THAT. THOSE AFTER OUR RENTALS. ARE YOU BREAKING EVEN THERE OR ARE YOU ARE WE MAKING A PROFIT ON THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK OUR NUMBERS. I THINK WE MIGHT BE MAKING A SMALL AMOUNT. IT'S NOT. OKAY. 800 SEEMS A LITTLE MORE. FOR A LARGE FACILITY LIKE THAT. I'M. I MEAN, IF IT WERE, YOU KNOW, BRADFORD POOL, I WOULD SAY THAT'S WAY TOO HIGH, BUT FOR SUCH A LARGE FACILITY, THAT JUST IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LOW TO ME, AND THEN ON THE RENDERING, YOU HAVE THAT BALCONY AT THE TOP OF THE REC CENTER. IS THAT A IS

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CAN YOU? COUNCILMAN HENDRICKS, HE'S GOING TO GET THE FIRST ONE. HAS THE PHOTO, RIGHT? NO, HIS DAUGHTER'S PHOTO. RIGHT, RIGHT. A QUESTION ON THE FEES. YES THOSE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. JUST JUST FOR CONSIDERATION. INDIVIDUALS VERSUS ORGANIZATIONS, PROFITS, NON-PROFITS, THESE THESE FEES STRUCTURES THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING COVERS WHETHER YOU'RE FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION OR NONPROFIT.

CORRECT. WE'RE CURRENTLY JUST PROPOSING THE ADMISSION FEES THAT YOU SEE HERE OF $6 AND $8, DEPENDING YOUR AGE. OKAY. OR RESIDENT NON RESIDENT. OKAY. I WOULD SUGGEST CONSIDERATION. I'M THINKING OF THE ATRIUM. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IF A MR. UPDATE. MR. CITY MANAGER, BUT USUALLY WHEN THEY I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS. THEIR RATES FOR THE ATRIUM. AM I AM I FOR THE RESERVATION. CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. THEY HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES IF YOU'RE NONPROFIT. WHATEVER. SO AND WITH THE WAY THIS RENDERING LOOKS PARTICULARLY SPACE SHOULD YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS BE THEY NONPROFIT OR FOR PROFIT? OKAY. I WOULD SUGGEST LOOKING AT TAKING TAKE INTO ACCOUNT COMING UP WITH A FEE STRUCTURE FOR, FOR GROUPS. OKAY. AND SEE HOW THAT GOES AND SORT OF MODEL IT AFTER I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATES ARE BECAUSE THE ATRIUM IS DOING THAT NOW. SO AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY. AND IF WE CAN GET IF WE CAN GET IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND I'M THINKING SMALL BUSINESSES, FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND USE OUR FACILITIES, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT COMING UP WITH A RATE STRUCTURE FOR, FOR SMALL, FOR PROFIT AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I FROM MY NOTES HERE, I THINK EVERYBODY'S BEEN PEEKING OVER MY SHOULDER HERE, I AGREE REALLY WITH WHAT BJ WAS SAYING TOO. I WOULD LOOK AT THIS FEE STRUCTURE MORE LIKE AN EVENT CENTER SIMILAR TO THE ATRIUM. JUST GIVEN MY $0.02, I PROBABLY WOULD JUST DIVIDE IT BETWEEN RESIDENT RATES AND NON RESIDENT SLASH COMMERCIAL RATES, , BUT ONE ING REAL QUICK HERE JUST TO JUST TO CONFIRM ON THE FEES, INDIVIDUAL FEES WOULD 0 TO 2 BE NO FEE. IS THAT CORRECT. CORRECT I SEE THAT IT'S INSINUATED. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. OKAY AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS I HAVE TO DISCUSS ARE RELATED TO, LOOKING AT THE FEES RELATED TO THIS FACILITY AS AN EVENT CENTER AS OPPOSED TO JUST AN AQUATIC CENTER. AND LIKE BJ WAS SAYING, I'VE ACTUALLY GOT THE ATRIUM PAGE PULLED UP HERE ON THE IN APPENDIX F HERE. AND I WOULD I WOULD PREFER FOR IT TO BE LOOKED AT ON TWO SCALES. RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT SLASH COMMERCIAL. AND THINK ABOUT THIS BEING AN EVENT CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, AN AFTER HOURS RENTAL, JUST THE LARGER EVENTS, OF COURSE, NOT LIKE THE CABANA AND THE PARTY DECK, BUT WHEN SOMEONE'S LEASING OUT THE ENTIRE FACILITY, THEN THAT IS THAT IS WOULD LIKE TO AND HONESTLY, I I THINK THE FEE IS GOING TO COME OUT TO BE MORE LIKE DOUBLE WHAT IT IS ON HERE. AND THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US ALSO TO PROVIDE A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR THEM AS WELL. SO, ANYWAY, YEAH. AND I AGREE, WHAT THEY HAD SAID AS WELL ABOUT, LOOKING AT HAVING A MEMBERSHIP. I THINK THAT'S REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR PEOPLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. APPRECIATE THE YEAH. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I'M I MISSED ONE QUESTION HERE. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY? THE CAPACITY THE BATHER LOAD IS 700. HOLD ON. I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 725 IS THE BATHER LOAD, WHICH WOULD MEAN

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WE'VE OPENED UP ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS. I GOT TO FIGURE OUT HERE, LET'S START WITH COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. OKAY? YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP THE CAN OF WORMS, BUT FOR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NONPROFITS IN THIS CITY, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT FEE STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THAT THAT THAT, THAT COMMUNITY, BACK TO JEFF'S POINT, THAT COMMUNITY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A PART OF AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND COMING UP WITH, WITH THE FEE STRUCTURES THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE THAT COMMUNITY WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO UTILIZE THIS STATE OF THE ART FACILITY. SO BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE OR THE FEES. BUT CONSIDER THAT, MR. CITY MANAGER. THAT'S MY ANSWER. OKAY COUNCILOR BASS, THANK YOU.

AND ACTUALLY, OKAY, SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NONPROFITS I'M GOING TO PUT UNDER THAT SAME CATEGORY THE CITY CITY STAFF, CITY DEPARTMENTS, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK AT KEEPING THOSE OUT OF ANY KIND OF DISCOUNT FROM HERE. IT'S BEEN, I MEAN, OVER THE YEARS THAT THE ATRIUM I MEAN, I'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THE ATRIUM FOR 13 YEARS NOW. I GUESS. AND IT'S JUST BEEN IT'S A IT'S A TRICKY THING WHEN IT'S A, WHEN IT'S A STAFF DEPARTMENT OR WHEN IT'S A NONPROFIT AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHEN THEY'RE USING IT COMPARED TO PEAK HOURS. AND JUST IT'S JUST A TRICKY, TRICKY, TRICKY SITUATION. AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE IT'S GONE, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S A MESS. LOOK, DIVIDING THOSE OUT AND THEN COMPARING PEAK DAYS TO NON PEAK DAYS, YOU KNOW, LUNCH ON A TUESDAY COMPARED TO A SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IT'S JUST IT'S A, IT'S A THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO LOOK AT. AND I WOULD I WOULD SAY HONESTLY ON THIS ONE I WOULD JUST KEEP IT OUT OF THERE. I WOULD JUST KEEP IT TO BASICALLY RESIDENT NONRESIDENT SLASH COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BASS ON THIS FACILITY, I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY YOU THINK OF NONPROFITS AS, LIKE, A CRIME WATCH GROUP OR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP. GARLAND, I THINK, IS A NONPROFIT GROUP, I JUST DON'T SEE THEM REALLY NEEDING A POOL TO CARRY THOSE MEETINGS ON, SO I WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE NONPROFITS SEPARATED OUT OF THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE SHOULD DO OUR POLICE AWARDS AT THE POOL NEXT YEAR, AND. SOME GOOD POINTS. I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE. I THINK THAT HELPS US, WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME PROPOSALS AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. DYOU HAVE $725? I'M JUST TRYING TO RAISE IT FOR THE NEXT UP WILL BE ITEM FOUR F. FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YEAH. THANKS FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND THE RIGHT ONE HERE. YEP. OKAY THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON,

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SO OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACT COSTS ARE INCREASING BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE BUILDINGS OR LARGER BUILDINGS TO TAKE CARE OF, AND THEN SAME WITH ALL OF OUR MEP CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF EVERYTHING KEEPS GOING UP. SO WE'RE HAVING TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THE HVAC UNITS COST MORE TO REPLACE AND PLUMBING WORK COSTS MORE. SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THIS REQUEST. THE SECOND REQUEST IS, AN ANNUAL OPERATING FUND FOR FACILITY PROJECTS, THE, THE OPERATING PROJECTS ARE THE ONES THAT THAT CAN'T BE CAPITALIZED EITHER BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE DOLLAR LIMIT. FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGE MAINTENANCE RELATED PROJECTS. SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS AT GALE FIELDS, WE WANT TO REPAINT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND DO SOME PATCHING, PAINTING THAT WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR A CAPITAL PROJECT, SO WE NEED THE THIS FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, LARGE SECTIONS OF FENCE THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT AND, AND REPLACED, DUE TO AGE OR WHATEVER, THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS TYPICALLY DON'T LAND THERE. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE'VE GOT LIKE, $50,000 WORTH

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THEY'RE 2010 MODELS, AND SO THEY'RE WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE REPAIRS ON THEM.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING TWO OF THOSE THIS UPCOMING YEAR. AND THEN LASTLY, WITH REGARDS TO OUR TRANSMISSION, WE DO HAVE TO DO TRANSMISSION LINE INSPECTIONS.

IT'S A PART OF A LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENT FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO. ALL TRANSMISSION SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE TO DO THIS. PART OF THAT INSPECTION. ALSO YOU LOOK AT THE CLEARANCE. SO BETWEEN THE GROUND AND THE LINE OR ANYTHING THAT MAY BE IN THE EASEMENT AND THE LINE, YOU HAVE TO DO AN ANALYSIS TO SEE IF YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT ARE CALLED NURK REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THAT'S DONE VIA WHAT'S CALLED LIDAR. IT'S A LASER PROCESS THAT WE USE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT $100,000 FOR, 24 AND 25, LAST ITEM IS THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY TRANSMISSION. I THINK COUNCIL KNOWS THAT GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. WE PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SERVICES FOR TOPAZ TRANSMISSION. SO THESE ITEMS HERE WILL BE 100% REIMBURSED TO US BY TMPA. IN FACT, TMPA BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THEIR BUDGET FOR 2425. AND SO IT HAS THESE ITEMS IN THERE. AND SO THAT'S $943,000. THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF THIS IS FOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE SERVICES. TMPA HAS A HANDFUL OF WHAT ARE CALLED AUTOTRANSFORMERS. THEY'RE VERY LARGE TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. ABOUT $4 MILLION EACH. AND RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 4 TO 5 YEARS FOR YOU TO GET A NEW ONE. THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER. SO THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL TLC. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ON THESE AUTOTRANSFORMERS, ALSO ORDERING SOME ADDITIONAL SPARE EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS. AND THEN THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LOOKING AT REPLACING IN 24 AND 25, IN SUMMARY, WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT AT ABOUT $3.5 MILLION AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUEST, PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, LAST YEAR IT WAS RIGHT AT $4.2 MILLION, ABOUT A $700,000 DECREASE. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY THE PRODUCTION AREA. THIS YEAR, IF YOU ADD UP THE TOP LINE ITEM AND THE SECOND LINE ITEM, THAT'S ABOUT $2.1 MILLION. LAST, LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $3.1 MILLION IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR PRODUCTION. SO IT'S BEEN A DROP THERE IN THAT FUNDING REQUEST, ONE TIME FUNDING OF 2.2 MILLION AND THEN ONGOING OF 1.3, WHICH THE BULK OF THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TMPA TRANSMISSION, WHICH AGAIN, IS SOMETHING THAT'S REIMBURSED BY TMPA TO GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE TWO? WOULD YOU IN LAYMAN'S LAYMAN'S TERM, IN LAYMAN'S TERM, AS FAR AS JOB DUTIES, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MECHANICAL MAINTENANCE, MECHANICAL TECHNICIAN, ELECTRIC PLANT E, I AND C TECHNICIAN? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO JOBS? SO THE MECHANICAL TECHNICIAN IS REALLY GOING TO BE DEALING WITH, SAY, PUMPS, MOTORS. MOVING PARTS AND PIECES, THE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR ELECTRICAL INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROL TECHNICIAN. SO IF YOU THINK OF SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS

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GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. HELLO THERE. MANAGE. HEARD YOU TALK TODAY ABOUT NOT GARLAND. POWER AND LIGHT.EAH. DARYL DIDN'T DO YOU ANY FAVORS. HE SET ME UP. THERE WE GO. OKAY.

WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES, FOR 20 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF REQUESTS, AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS IN PRIOR A PRIOR BUDGET SESSION, BUT, SOME OF THESE ARE CONTINUING EFFORTS, CONTINUING PROGRAMS. ONE OF THE REQUESTS WE HAVE IS FOR A LEAD AND COPPER SERVICE LINE. SO IT'S AN INSPECTION TO LOOK FOR LEAD PIPE. THAT COULD BE SERVICING A RESIDENTIAL OR SCHOOLS, BUILDINGS. AND SO THE EPA, IF YOU REMEMBER, WAY BACK A FEW YEARS AGO, THE EPA IS NATIONALLY REQUIRED ALL UTILITIES TO LOOK LEAD MATERIALS IN PARTICULAR A THAT CAUSE HUMAN HEALTH EFFECTS, FOR EVERY SERVICE IN THE NATION STARTED WITH FLINT, MICHIGAN.

AND THEN IT RAPIDLY WENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT MATERIAL BECAUSE IT CAN CAUSE HEALTH ISSUES. LONG TERM. AND SO THEY'VE PUT UPON EVERY UTILITY, THE REQUIREMENT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL YOUR SERVICES, ALL THE SERVICES THAT SERVE ANY COMMUNITY, ANY RESIDENT. AND TO IDENTIFY THAT MATERIAL, SO GARLAND HAS BEEN, UNDERWAY WITH A COUPLE OF YEARS OF SURVEY TO INSPECT THOSE, PHYSICALLY INSPECT EACH ONE OF THOSE SERVICE LINES, AND THERE'S THE WATER MAIN AND THEN THE SERVICE LINE THAT GOES TO THE METER. AND THEN FROM THE METER TO THE HOUSE THAT WE HAVE TO VERIFY AND VALIDATE. AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT BY 2020, 2030. THAT'S THE NATIONAL REQUIREMENT. SO CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY WE'RE ABOUT 21% COMPLETE WITH OUR SURVEY, WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING EXIING STAFF CONTRACTORS, AND THIS REQUEST THOUGH IS THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME UTILITIES BE COMING AND THEY'RE FASTER THAN US. AND WE'RE SENSING SOME SENSE OF URGENCY TO TRY TO FINISH THIS SOONER, TO BE ABLE TO ID WHERE WE HAVE ANY POTENTIAL LEAD SERVICES, WE HAVE A PUBLIC REQUIREMT OR REQUIREMENT TO GO TO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION HERE IN OCTOBER, THIS FALL TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THIS IS WHAT OUR RESULTS ARE. AND HERE'WHERE THEY WHERE THEY WILL GO BY THE YEAR 2030. SO THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE, LOOK AT THEIR SPECIFIC ADDRESS AND SEE WHETHER THEY HAVE LEAD SERVICES OR NOT, AND WE WILL POST ALL OF OUR WORK AS WE MOVE ON ON THAT WEBSITE AND REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS TO LET THEM KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE EVER FOUND A LEAD SERVICE ON THEIR MAIN OR THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND THAT HAVE ANY LEAD, SO WE'VE PICKED THE TOUGHEST AREAS FIRST FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, THE OLDEST AREAS OF CITY OF GARLAND, TO TRY TO FIND ANY POTENTIAL LEAD SERVICES. AND WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS INITIALLY, THAT THE EPA WAS GOING TO ALLOW US TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES, AND THAT WAS ONE THROUGH CODE AND DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. BUT REALLY THOSE THOSE, THOSE HOUSES PRE 1988 WERE THE ONES THAT WE HAD CONCERN WITH, PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT WERE EARLY 1900S WHERE LEAD WAS USED IN SOME CITIES. BUT FORTUNATELY WHAT WE'RE

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AND IT REALLY ALLOWS US TO GIVE CERTAINTY TO OUR CUSTOMER THAT THEY DO OR DON'T HAVE A LEAD SERVICE, AND WE CAN GET THAT REMOVED. IF THEY DID, SO WE WANT TO ACCELERATE THAT, PUT AT EASE OUR MINDS IN OUR RATEPAYERS MINDS THAT WE DON'T HAVE LEAD IN THE SYSTEM AND ACCELERATE THAT AND DOCUMENT ALL THOSE. PER THE EPA REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S THE FIRST REQUEST. THE SECOND REQUEST IS FOR ONE FULL TIME POSITION FOR AN ADDITIONAL LEAD SYSTEM ANALYST. WE'RE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES WITHIN WATER TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF OUR CHALLENGING PROGRAMS. THAT RELATE TO CYBERSECURITY, THAT RELATE TO SOME ASSET TRACKING, AND HOW WE TRACK FUNDING OF SOME OF OUR WORK ORDERS. IT REQUIRES SOME IT TYPE OF SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THAT WE IMPLEMENT THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY WATER FOCUSED. AND WE'RE HAVING CHALLENGING WE'RE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE SOFTWARE PROGRAMS, IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE CYBERSECURITY TRAINING RELATED, SOFTWARE RELATED, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO THAT'S THE REQUEST FOR THIS ONE POSITION THAT WOULD HELPS ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THOSE. AND THEY HELP TRAIN OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN THE WATER UTILITY SO THAT WE'RE WE'RE BETTER EQUIPPED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE CYBERSECURITY ISSUES. RISK ASSESSMENTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SO THOSE TWO SUMMARIES FOR A TOTAL OF 738,102 OF THOSE ARE ONE TIME. AND SOME OF THAT ONE TIME COST IS DEVELOPING THE WEBSITE, DEVELOPING THOSE REACH OUT MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CUSTOMERS A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVELY. WE HAVE A PROPOSED RATE INCREASE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND THESE ARE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OUT. WE HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS PROJECTED FOR RATE INCREASES.

AND TO DIVE INTO THOSE, THE RATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR WATER THIS YEAR IS A 2.6% RATE INCREASE FOR WATER AND A 4.5% RATE INCREASE FOR WASTEWATER, NOW GETTING INTO THESE DETAILS, A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS ROUGHLY RELATES ON ON AN AVERAGE BILL ABOUT $3.17 ON THE AVERAGE BILL. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DRIVING SOME OF THESE SERVICE RATES, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO WATER, FOR WATER, WE GET ALL OF OUR WATER FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

A LOT OF WHAT THE WATER DISTRICT CHARGES, ARE A BIG IMPACT, 80% OF THEIR INCREASES IMPACT OR REALLY THEIR CHARGES ARE 80% OF OUR WATER. PART OF OUR BILL GOING TO NORTH TEXAS. SO A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR BILL IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COST OF NORTH TEXAS. AND NORTH TEXAS IS TRYING TO MEET MANY DEMANDS THROUGHOUT THIS REGION, THEY'RE BRINGING ON A FEW DIFFERENT WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, WHICH IS INCREASING THEIR COST. THEIR, THEIR AVERAGE, PRODUCTION COST FOR THE GALLON OF WATER. AND THEY PASS IT ON TO ALL OF THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT SAME RATE, SOME OF THE NEWER CUSTOMERS HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THEY'RE NEWCOMERS. BUT GARLAND IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBER CITIES, AND WE ENJOY THAT BASE RATE THAT WE HAVE. BUT IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR WATER BILL, BUT WE SEE IN THE PAST WE'VE SEEN SOME HIGHER PROJECTIONS FROM NORTH TEXAS, AND IN SOME CASES, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PASS ON SOME SAVINGS OCCASIONALLY WITH US WHEN THEY'VE HAD OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES, THEY BECOME MORE EFFECTE IN THEIR OPERATIONS. AND IN SOME CASES, OUR PRIOR INCREASES WE WERE SEEING WITH REGARD TO INCREASED COSTS OF CHLORINE, CHLORINE, OTHER TYPES OF CHEMICALS, WE'VE SEEN SOME VARIABILITY OF THAT. IN SOME CASES IT WAS RLLY HIGH. AND IT DOES IMPACT THE WATER UTILITIES QUITE A BIT. SO WHAT'S DRIVING THAT WATER SERVICE RATE IS REALLY NORTH TEXAS AND THEIR THEIR BIG EXPANSIONS. AND WE'RE HAVING TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THE NORTH NORTH TEXAS AREA. SO WE SEE A LOT OF THAT, FROM THE WASTEWATER SIDE. YOU KNOW, THIS DEALS MORE SO WITH GARLAND AND

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CERTAINLY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AND HELP US. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR VERY GOOD.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MICHAEL, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE. OKAY. THE ONES I THINK 166 IS WHAT YOU'RE PROJECTING, RIGH? YEAH. OKAY. HERE. YES. SO THE 166 INCREASE ON THE WATER RATE. OKAY. MICHAEL, WHAT DOES THAT PUT US AS FAR AS DO WE BREAK EVEN IN OUR TREATMENT? OUR PROCESS DOES THAT BREAK OR WE ARE WE AT A DEFICIT. PUT US AHEAD LOOKING A YEAR OUT. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT WERE THAT 166.

GIVE YOU AS THE MANAGER. DOES THAT WOULD WE BREAK EVEN. AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS IT PUT US AHEAD, PUT US BEHIND. IT FULLY COVERS ALL OF OUR EXPENSES AND ALL OF OUR COSTS, AND IT HELPS US WITH RATES IN THE FUTURE. AND SO AS WE LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE AND TEN YEARS, ANDREW WORKS WITH FINANCE TO HELP PLAN FOR OUR FUTURE GROWTH AND OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, AND SO YOU TRY TO BUILD SOME CAPITAL RESERVES TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF THOSE FUTURE PROJECTS. AND SO, SO IT'S YES, WE FULLY RECOVER SOME OF THOSE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE UPGRADES AND CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING TO US THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND AS WELL. AND SO WE NEED SOME CASH AND WE NEED SOME RESERVES TO COVER OUR RATIOS FOR DEBT COVERAGE. OKAY. AND HOW HOW AS A MANAGING DIRECTOR, HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN MESSAGE IT? THE 166 COVERS OUR COST, BUT IT'S ALSO PROJECTS US INTO THE FUTURE AND THE QUALITY OF SERVICES. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER FROM A MESSAGING STANDPOINT TO TIE THE RATE INCREASES TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICES AND GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE FOLKS WHO GO AND PAY THE BILL, THE RESIDENTS. YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE'RE GETTING EXCELLENT LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM NORTH TEXAS. AND SO THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE AND FORWARD THINKING ABOUT WHAT SERVICES ARE PROVIDING US TODAY AND INTO TOMORROW. NORTH TEXAS IS FACED WITH A COUPLE OF ISSUES. ONE IS THEIR TREMENDOUS GROWTH HERE IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, TREMENDOUS GROWTH. AND WHICH IS FORCING THEM TO HAVE TO EXPAND PLANTS AND BUILD NEW RESERVOIRS. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. BUT NORTH TEXAS IS ALSO BEING VERY PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO MANAGE THEIR PLANTS MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVEL. AND I THINK WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON THEIR BOARD, THAT ARE LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE EFFICIENTLY, EFFECTIVELY MANAGING THAT BUSINESS. AND AND IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO CRITIQUE THEM. BUT IT'S HARD TO CRITIQUE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR THAT. THEY JUST HAVE A LOT OF DEMANDS ON THEIR SYSTEM. AND SO WE'RE GETTING EXCELLENT SERVICE FROM THAT, FROM THAT ENTITY. AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE EXPECT THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF GARLAND. SO WE'RE SEEING GREAT THINGS FROM NORTH TEXAS, AND WE'RE ALSO SEEING THEM PROACTIVELY ADDRESS FUTURE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, FUTURE TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE THAT THE STATE AND THE FEDS ARE GOING TO BE PLACING ON DRINKING WATER. AND SO REALLY, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IS WE'RE PAYING GREAT SERVICE. GREAT. WE'RE GETTING A GOOD VALUE, FOR EXCELLENT COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT

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THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FOUR. I LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, SANITATION. I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

BECAUSE YOU WERE LAST. THAT WAS BECAUSE YOU WERE A SANITATION. ACTUALLY, MY BOSS PHIL TOLD ME THAT HE GOT A LETTER FROM CODE COMPLIANCE, AND HE'S GOT TO GO BACK AND MOW HIS GRASS. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS QUICK. SORRY, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. MR. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. I'D LIKE TO START WITH A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT FOR CITIZENS.

I JUST WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE BACK ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULE AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ISSUES WITH THEIR LARGE BRUSH AND BULKY COLLECTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

GIVE US A CALL. USE EST. TYPICALLY WE PROVIDE RESOLUTION WITHIN USUALLY THE SAME DAY OR FOR SURE WITHIN 24 HOURS. AND SO WITH THAT WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR PRESENTATION. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR $125,000 TO FUND TWO NEW POSITIONS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE TWO RESIDENTIAL DRIVERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED TO EXPAND OUR COLLECTION ROUTES FROM 17 TO 18.

BY DOING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CONTAINERS THAT EACH DRIVER IS GOING TO BE COLLECTING. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE ANTICIPATE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN FIELD OPERATIONS. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS OR REDUCTIONS IN OVERTIME. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS GOING TO EXTEND THE REPLACEMENT CYCLE OF OUR COLLECTION EQUIPMENT. WE'RE GOING TO BE REDUCING THE WORKLOAD BY THAT AUTOMATICALLY.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT REPLACEMENT CYCLE. THE SECOND POSITION IS GOING TO BE A BACKUP OR FLOATER POSITION. THIS EMPLOYEE, WE'RE GOING TO CROSS-TRAIN HIM OR HER INTO MULTIPLE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. AND MY PLAN IS IF YOU THINK OF THE LAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS WITH THE BRUSH AND BULKY DIVISION PICKING UP DEBRIS FROM THE STORM, I'VE HAD EMPLOYEES FROM OTHER DIVISIONS THAT WERE CERTIFIED IN BRUSH EQUIPMENT AND THEY WERE HELPING OUT. THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED US TO BE SO EFFICIENT DURING THIS LAST EVENT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS NEW EMPLOYEE IS GOING TO BE DOING. ADDITIONALLY, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO COVER FOR WHEN PEOPLE CALL IN SICK, WHEN PEOPLE ARE INJURED OR WHEN THEY GO ON VACATION, AND LASTLY, WHEN EMPLOYEES HAVE A KNEE REPLACEMENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT FOR THREE MONTHS, THIS NEW BACKUP IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO BACKFILL THOSE, THOSE, THOSE GAPS. WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR ANOTHER $125,000 FOR TWO MORE DRIVERS. BUT THESE ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES DIVISION IN THE FIVE AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH, WITH THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY FULLY STAFFED IN THIS, IN THIS DIVISION, IT IS VERY HARD TO FILL, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A GOOD JOB WITH THE HELP OF H.R. AND SO BUT WE'RE STILL AT CAPACITY IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE GROWING THIS DIVISION AND PURSUING NEW ACCOUNTS, WE NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THE FORM OF EMPLOYEES AND EQUIPMENT. SO JUST OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE ADDED 947 NEW FRONT LOAD ACCOUNTS, AND WE'VE SERVICED OVER 17,000 ROLL-OFF SERVICE ORDERS WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE TWO EMPLOYEES, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN OVERTIME AND MOST LIKELY OR SCHEDULE IS GOING TO GO FROM FIVE DAYS A WEEK TO SIX DAYS A WEEK. SO NOW SATURDAY IS GOING TO BE A WORK DAY FOR US, WHICH IN TURN IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO SERVICE MORE AND MORE CUSTOMERS. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME NUMBERS WITH YOU AS IT PERTAINS TO REVENUE. JUST OVER THE LET ME FIND MY SLIDE REAL QUICK, IN COMPARISON TO JULY OF LAST YEAR, OUR REVENUE FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICES IS UP BY NINE $897,000. SO AND IF WE LOOK AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, OUR REVENUE IS UP BY $2.4 MILLION IN COMPARISON TO JULY OF 2019. SO WHAT AM I SAYING TO YOU? THE

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WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP OUR RATES LOW AND WHENEVER POSSIBLE, NOT TO INCREASE THE RATES. BUT THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY FACTORS THAT DRIVE RATE INCREASES. AND AS IT PERTAINS TO SANITATION, IS THE ADDITION OF NEW POSITIONS AND ALSO THE ONGOING PURCHASE OF COLLECTION EQUIPMENT. THOSE ARE RESOURCES. THOSE ARE NECESSITIES THAT ALLOW US TO CONTINUE PROVIDING PREMIER SERVICES TO OUR CUSTOMERS. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, IT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE GROWING THE COMMERCIAL DIVISION, WHICH BRINGS BRINGS IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE CITY. SO THE LAST RATE INCREASE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A FLAT 3% RATE INCREASE FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICES. THAT WILL BE FOR FRONT LOAD AND ROLL OFF RATES AND, TYPICALLY WE ARE AROUND 20 TO 25% BELOW THE AVERAGE FOR COMMERCIAL RATES. SO I AM NOT ANTICIPATING LOSING ANY CUSTOMERS OVER THIS, THIS, THIS 3% INCREASE. AND THIS IS A MULTI-CITY COMPARISON OF SANITATION RATES ACROSS THE METROPLEX, GARLAND, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE AT 2408. IT WOULD BE THE CHEAPEST MONTHLY SANITATION RATE. DALLAS WOULD BE THE HIGHEST AT 3938, WITH AN AVERAGE OF 2911. SO THAT WOULD PUT US $5.03 BELOW THE AVERAGE, IF YOU RECA FROM EARLIER TODAY, ALLISON MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE 12 CITIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY USED FOR MARKET STUDIES. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU'RE ONLY SEEING SIX CITIES, INCLUDING GARLAND ON THIS SLIDE ON THIS, ON THIS COMPARISON IS BECAUSE THESE ARE T ONLY CITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED THAT PROVIDE SANITATION SERVICES BY CITY EMPLOYEES. IF YOU INTRODUCE PRIVATE HAULERS INTO THIS COMPARISON, IT WON'T BE ACCURATE. THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES WHEN YOU INTRODUCE PRIVATE HAULERS NUMBER ONE, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME. NUMBER TWO, THEY OPERATE FOR PROFIT, SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHY THERE'S ONLY A TOTAL OF SIX CITIES ON THIS COMPARISON. AND THIS COMPARISON IS FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONTAINER RATE. NOW ON THIS SLIDE, NOW YOU SEE EVEN LESS CITIES. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONLY FOUR CITIES THAT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONTAINER RATE. THE CITIES OF IRVING AND CITIES OF RICHARDSON, WHICH I'M NOT SHOWING. IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE CITIES AND YOU WANT TO INCREASE YOUR DISPOSAL CAPACITY, YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE PLASTIC BAGS. SO FOR THAT REASON, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS COMPARISON. SO MESQUITE IS THE LOWEST AT $10, FOLLOWED BY GARLAND AT 1010. THE AVERAGE OF 1086. AND THE CITY OF PLANO WOULD BE 2066 AS THE HIGHEST RATE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE. VERY GOOD CUSTOMER BASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MURIEL YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO ACTUALLY I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT AND COMMEND YOU FOR THE JOB THAT YOU'VE DONE, ESPECIALLY ON THE ON THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES. SO 947 NEW ACCOUNTS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. THAT IS FOUR PER WEEK FOR FIVE YEARS STRAIGHT. THAT IS JUST AMAZING. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST IT'S REALLY, REALLY COMMENDABLE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH OUR COMMERCIAL SERVICE. AND THAT NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES HERE IN GARLAND, BUT OF COURSE, IT ALSO BENEFITS THE CITY BUDGET. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE ATTENTION AND PASSION THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS POSITION IN YOUR TERM HERE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. I HAVE A GREAT TEAM. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE. SAME, YOU'VE

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CORRECT? NO. EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED INTO ONE FEE, AND CONSIDERING YOU HAVEN'T, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A PRICE INCREASE ON THE RESIDENTIAL RATES? NOT LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE. RIGHT. AND YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT $0.50. THAT'S NOMINAL, HOW MANY OF THESE CITIES THAT YOU'RE COMPARING THE CONTAINER RATES FOR, ON THE NEXT SLIDE ON EIGHT, HOW MANY OF THOSE OFFER BULK PICKUP EVERY WEEK TO THEIR CUSTOMERS? NONE NONE. I THINK THAT THERE'S THREE. I THINK THAT THE $3 IS A MINIMUM. ASK. AND I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR CONSIDERING I KNOW, BUT IT'S KIND OF AND SHE WAS SAYING THAT THAT'S JUST FOR CONTAINERS. BUT THE BULK COST IS INTEGRATED INTO IT'S INCLUDED. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO IT WILL NOT BE ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR BRUSH AND BULK COLLECTIONS. WELL, I THINK IN SOME CASES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA CONTAINER, SOMETIMES THEY USE BULK TRASH AS A WAY TO GET OUT OF THAT. SO, I AGREE WITH YOU. YES. SO I, I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR. AND, I, I JUST THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THIS INQUIRY, BUT JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY TO THIS IDEA OF BRUSH PILES ALONG ROSE HILL ROAD, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A BUDGET. WELL, OKAY, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A SIDE BAR. WELL, WHAT? THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. SIR. IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF SIR. YES SIR.

I KNOW IT WAS. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW IT WAS OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, COUNSELOR DUTTON. SO I KIND OF AGREE WITH HER, BUT NOT ON THE PUT IT IN THE $3 CONTAINER THIN. PUT IT, INSTEAD OF $0.50. HIT THAT WITH THE $2 OR WHATEVER FOR EVERYONE CAN PAY IT. LISTEN. AND THEN YOU CAN COME PICK UP MY EXTRA CONTAINER. ALSO, BECAUSE $10 IS CRAZY, BUT THAT WOULD BE A NOT EVERYONE HAS TWO CONTAINERS, SO IF YOU PUT THAT ON EVERYONE'S END, THEN YOU. IT'S SHARED. IT'S SHARED EXPENSE BECAUSE EVERYONE GETS BULK PICKUP. YEAH, WE HAVE JUST A LITTLE OVER 63,000 CUSTOMERS THAT USE THE PAY. THE SINGLE CONTAINER RATE IN ABOUT JUST A LITTLE OVER 15,000. THEY USE TWO OR MORE CONTAINERS. YEAH. SO YOU JUST CHARGE EVERYBODY $2 AND THEN IT'S GOOD. IT'S STILL FAIR. IT'S STILL A FAIR PRICE BECAUSE I BELIEVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER YOU HAVE THAT, ABILITY TO MAKE THAT THAT REQUEST. I'M JUST SAYING. THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE, AND OBVIOUSLY, URIEL, YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK. AND WHAT'S AMAZING IS YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE YEARS WHEN WE'VE HAD COST INCREASES OR BILLING INCREASES, YOU WE ARE UNDER THE AVERAGE IN PRICE. AND SO FAR OVER THE AVERAGE IN SERVICE. IT IT IS AMAZING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE AMAZING EMPLOYEES. ABSOLUTELY ALL THE CREDIT SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR LAST DEPTMENT PRESENTATION. YAY. AND THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM FIVE. PRESENTATION OF CHANGES REQUESTED TO DATE FOR FY 25 PROPOSED BUDGET. ALLISON IS BACK. YES. GIVE ME A MINUTE TO LUG EVERYTHING BACK UP. SHE'S GONNA. GO. JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD. AND AS PART OF THIS, WHEN I GET TO ABOUT SLIDE 3 OR 4, I'M GOING TO ASK TWO OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF TO COME JOIN ME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CITY MARSHALS PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY. SO WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL REQUESTS FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR AN ACTION OF THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE REGARDING PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BUDGET. SO I'M HERE TO GO OVER THOSE, AS WELL AS DO A BRIEF RECAP OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW UP ON FROM TODAY'S

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2022 COUNCIL ADDED TWO. I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN 21. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL ADDED TWO EXTRA DEPUTIES FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S HOW IT GOT US FROM 7 TO 9. AND THEN WE'VE REMAINED AT NINE FOR 21 AND 2022. AND THEN IN 2023, WE ENDED UP TAKING A HALF PART TIME POSITION,

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BASED ON WHICH TYPE OF OFFENSE IT IS, THEY HAVE A CARVED OUT SOME VIOLATIONS THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR GENERAL ARE STARTING AT 30. LEWISVILLE 75 AND THEN ARLINGTON NOT TO EXCEED00, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR FOR WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, I'D LIKE MIKE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE HISTORY OF WHY WE SET THE FEES WHERE THEY ARE.

PLEASE, MIKE. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT I WOULD HAVE IMAGINED I'D BE BACK HERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. IT'S KIND OF BEEN MY PASSION FOR A LONG TIME. IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THE PARKING PROGRAM, SOME OF YOU WERE HERE WHEN WE FIRST ROLLED IT OUT. THE PURPOSE OF THE PARKING PROGRAM WAS NOT TO GENERATE REVENUE. IT

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I HAVE TO SHOW THAT A PERSON WHO I'M TRYING TO GO AFTER PARKED THE CAR ACROSS THE SIDEWALK. AND AS I POINTED OUT AT THE TIME, IF WE KNEW WHO IT WAS AND SAW THEM DO IT, WE'D TELL THEM, HEY, DON'T DO THAT. AND THEY'D PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE SHOW UP THE CARS PARKED ACROSS THE SIDEWALK, AND IT WAS A DIFFICULT WAY TO, SINCE YOU CAN'T CRIMINALLY ENFORCE TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION. AND SO WE IMAGINED A CIVIL ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. AND THE REASON FOR THE FINES WAS THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT. THE COUNCIL CAME UP WITH AT THE TIME, WAS IT NEEDED TO BE ENOUGH SO THAT THE PERSON WOULDN'T REPEAT OFFEND TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT NOT SO MUCH AS TO BE ONEROUS TO OUR RESIDENTS? YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE HEAVY HANDED AT THE TIME, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, THE DATA SUGGESTS OF THE 34,000 CARS WITH WRITTEN TICKETS TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE CARS, ALL BUT LIKE 6000 OF THEM, OR 5000 SOME ODD, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ONE TICKET EVER. RIGHT? IN $125 TICKET. AND THEN THEY DON'T PARK THAT WAY AGAIN. IF YOU DO THAT, THAT'S A WIN BECAUSE THAT'S THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO PARK THAT WAY AGAIN. AND SO THE WHEN THE COUNCIL SET IT UP ORIGINALLY, TY SAID, WELL, WE'LL DO $25 AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THESE INCREASING FINES FOR PEOPLE WHO CONTINUE TO DO IT, WHO CONTINUE TO PARK IN A WAY THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN YOU MAY RECALL THE SECOND THING WE DID IS WE CAME BACK, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE IT WAS, CAME BACK AND LOOKED AT WHAT'S THE FINES THAT WE NEED FOR THESE OVERSIZE VEHICLES, BECAUSE SOME OF THE OVERSIZE VEHICLES YOU WOULD TICKET. ALL RIGHT, WELL, YOU'RE TAKING THEM. AND THE FINES WERE SO LOW, LIKE THEY WOULD BE FOR RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE WHO WERE PARKING. YOU'D HAVE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES WHO THOUGHT, WELL, IT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. I'M GOING TO KEEP PARKING IT THERE BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S ONLY 25, $50, $75, WHATEVER THE STAGGERED FINES WERE. AND FOR THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY CATCH ME, THAT'S JUST A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. AND THEY REFUSED TO TAKE THE VEHICLES THAT DIDN'T BELONG IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THE COUNCIL DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THOSE FINES ON THESE COMMERCIAL, THESE OVERSIZE VEHICLES BY AND LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY WERE THEY WERE DEPRECIATING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND UNWILLING TO COMPLY. WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE WRITE, PARKING TICKETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO MOST OF THOSE VEHICLES, THEY SAID ARE ONE AND DONE. AND IF YOU WRITE A TICKET. AND THEY NEVER PARK THAT WAY AGAIN, THAT'S A WIN FOR THE CITY. WE'VE IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE. THEY'RE NOT PARKING ACROSS THE SIDEWALK ANYMORE. THEY'RE NOT CONTINUING TO PARK ON THE LAWNS. THEY'RE NOT PARKING UP AGAINST THE INTERSECTIONS. AND MOST OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED THE MARSHALS TO TARGET AT THE TIME WERE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES. THOSE ISSUES PARKED ACROSS THE SIDEWALK, PARKED ON THE GRASS, OVERSIZE VEHICLES PARKED RIGHT UP AGAINST THE INTERSECTION WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO THAT'S THE GENERAL DESIGN THAT WE HAD FOR THE PROGRAM AND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE FEE STRUCTURE BY WAY OF CONTEXT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE? GOT NOTHING. WELL, HANG ON.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, I'LL FINISH UP FEE STRUCTURE. GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK. I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED. I SAID, WHAT'S HE DOING HERE? I THOUGHT HE'D GIVEN HIS BALL TO SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT WELL, I DID, BUT I I'M STILL A CAPTAIN WITH THE MARSHALS, AND IT'S IN MY ROLE AS PARKING CZAR EMERITUS. AS COUNCIL MEMBER, MORRIS USED TO CALL ME. YES, YES, I KNOW ONCE THE CZAR, YOU'RE ALWAYS BE THE CZAR. NO, NO, NO. NOT MIKE. YOU DID. SAY ON ON THE HISTORY. YOU GAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THE $25. AND MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO RECEIVED THOSE TICKETS THERE WAS IT SERVED AS A DETERRENT, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEY'D NEVER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CARS, THAT OF THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAID, 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND LIKE ALL BUT 5 OR 6000 OF THEM. NEVER GET A SECOND TICKET. AND YOU ALSO DISTINGUISHED, I GUESS, NORMAL SIZED FOUR WHEELERS, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT, VERSUS LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, CORRECT? YES, SIR. WAS THERE ANY WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE ONE AND DONE BETWEEN THE REGULAR AND THEN THE, THE LARGER VEHICLE? I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS HERE TODAY, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WENT TO THE

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I'LL LOOK INTO THAT THEN, WHEN YOU SAY ALL. BUT 6000, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, FOR THE YEAR? LIKE, ALL BUT 6000 DIDN'T PAY OR ONLY GOT ONE OR WHATEVER. IT WAS THE SIX. AND THIS IS JUST ROUGH NUMBERS. AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME THIS WEEK TO GO THROUGH AND VERIFY EVERY ONE OF THESE NUMBERS. BUT THAT NUMBER HE'S REFERRING TO, THERE WERE 34,000 VEHICLES IN GROUPED BY LICENSE PLATE AND STATE, AND ALL BUT ABOUT 6000 OF THOSE VEHICLES ONLY RECEIVED ONE TICKET. OKAY.

AND THAT'S NOT THAT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE NUMBER OF TICKETS, THE NUMBER OF TICKETS ARE HIGHER THAN THE 34,000 NUMBER. THIS IS JUST LITERALLY GROUPINGS BY LICENSE PLATE AND STATE. LOOK, I AM NOT A MATH PERSON, SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT FOR ME. SO I PERSONALLY 90% OF THE PHONE CALLS THAT I GET ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING. I DON'T KNOW IF NOW EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE 25 CARS. WHAT IN THE WORLD CHANGED WHERE NOW WE HAVE LIKE THIS HUGE CAR SITUATION? SO I FEEL LIKE PART OF THAT IS FUELED BY WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, WELL, LET'S DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE PEOPLE HAVE LESS CARS. SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, LIKE, MAYBE THE NUMBER OF TICKETS INCREASED.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO MAKE PEOPLE PARK NORMAL. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS THE SAME ISSUE WITH PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING. LIKE IT'S I MEAN, AS YOU GUYS. WELL AS YOU KNOW, PATRICIA. RIGHT. LIKE STONEHENGE, THAT'S A POINT OF CONTENTION BECAUSE THE MULTIFAMILY PEOPLE ARE CHARGING FOR PARKING, SO THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY IT. SO THEY PAY, THEY PARK ON THE STREET AND THEN THEY'RE PARKING ON THE BRIDGE.

AND THEN YOU CAN'T SEE IT'S JUST THIS WHOLE THING, AND SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GRASPING AT STRAWS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE DO TO REMEDY IT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. SO, THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT. SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY, GREAT IDEAS THAT I HAVE A FEW AND I WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS I'D LIKE TO AFTER BUDGET MAYBE, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF YOU AND GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AND I TO RIDE AROUND IN YOUR DISTRICT, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR, YOUR PARTICULAR PROBLEMS. AND THEN MAYBE, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO SOME EXTRA ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT IN AREAS THAT NEED IT. I LOVE THAT IDEA. AND I THK THAT MIGHT GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT MODEL THAN WE HAVE NOW. THE MODEL WE HAVE NOW FOR ENFORCEMENT IS COMPLAINT DRIVEN. WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, WE GO TO THAT COMPLAINT, WE DRIVE THOSE STREETS, WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO ADD THIS PROGRAM IS STILL IN ITS EARLY STAGES. IT'S NOT EVEN FIVE YEARS OLD YET, SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF LEARNING AS WE GO. BUT THAT'S MY NEXT STEP, IS TO HAVE A MORE DIRECTED PATROL APPROACH TO WHERE WE GO OUT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LET THEM KNOW WE'RE COMING THROUGH YOU ALL THROUGH ASSOCIATIONS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GIVE WARNINGS A WEEK OR TWO, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WRITE TICKETS FOR THOSE THINGS LIKE PARKING IN THE GRASS FOR HAVING YOUR WRECKED VEHICLE OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR

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THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK SO REGARDING FEES, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHY I WANTED TO HAVE YOU COME IN, I DO AGREE WITH MIKE BETTS. I THINK THAT THE FIRST THE INITIAL FEE SHOULD BE LOW. IF SOMEBODY IS NOT A FREQUENT, FREQUENT OFFENDER, THEN THEY LEARN THEIR LESSON.

WE'VE DONE OUR JOB. YAY, BUT IF THERE'S A SECOND OFFENSE AND A THIRD OR SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE,&-PS SHOULD BE. INCREASED, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT SECOND OFFENSE SOMEWHERE AROUND $75 OR MAYBE EVEN $100. AND THEN THE THIRD AND SUBSEQUENT OFFENSES, I MEAN, I THINK IT SHOULD BE HIT PRETTY HARD THERE. I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMEONE WHO IS JUST THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE. AND I HATE TO SEE THAT. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THE SECOND OR THIRD OFFENSE. AND I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE WROTE NINE TICKETS. PRETTY SHORTENED PERIOD OF TIME, A FEW MONTHS FOR AN OVERSIZE VEHICLE IN A DRIVEWAY, AND WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO GO AND USE OUR CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WHICH WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, AND FINALLY, WE ENDED UP ARRESTING THIS INDIVIDUAL OVER AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT SOMEWHERE ELSE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GOT THE VEHICLE MOVED. SO, YES, INCREASING THE FINES MAY HAVE GOT HIS ATTENTION EARLIER, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT TOOK HIM ACTUALLY GOING TO JAIL BEFORE HE DECIDED HE WOULD MOVE HIS TRAILER. SO, HOW MANY OFFENSES DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO THAT CRIMINAL SIDE WHERE YOU ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY TO ATTACK THIS PROBLEM. NO BRIGHT LINE RULE, FACT SPECIFIC, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, SO IT'S JUST A FACT SPECIFIC THING WE LOOK AT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. IT WAS JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WAS TAKING TO GET COMPLIANCE. WE WERE MEETING WITH HIM, WE WERE TALKING TO HIM. WE WEREN'T JUST WRITING TICKETS AND LEAVING. AND THIS WAS JUST THE STEP WE HAD TO PROGRESS TO. I MEAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND FIVE IF YOU GET FIVE TICKETS FOR THE SAME THING, THERE'S THERE SHOULD BE, STRICTER CONSEQUENCES IN MY OPINION. WE DO WE DO HAVE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE FIVE OR MORE THE ABILITY TO TOW THEIR VEHICLES. OKAY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE IS PEOPLE WHO, WHEN THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED AND THEY DON'T PAY THEIR TICKETS AND THEY DON'T STOP PARKING THAT WAY, IF YOU FIND THEM PARKED THAT WAY AGAIN, RATHER THAN WRITE A TICKET, YOU TOW THEIR VEHICLE AWAY AND THEN THEY'VE GOT TO PAY THEIR TICKETS, ALL OF THEIR TICKETS TO GET THEIR CAR OUT OF THE E IMPOUND LOT. THAT TENDS TO HAVE A PRETTY STRONG DETERRENT EFFECT. PERFECT. THAT WORKS OUT GREAT, SO I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL'S OPINION ON, THOSE SECOND AND THIRD OFFENSE RATES. IF ANYBODY HAS AN OPINION. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT. YES, SIR, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A FEW OTHER PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, ON THE OVERSIZE AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, I THINK THOSE FINES NEED TO BE REALLY HIGH, AND I'M COMING AT IT. MY HUSBAND'S A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DRIVER TO PARK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED YARD FOR YOUR COMPANY HERE IN GARLAND, YOU HAVE TO PARK IN ROCKWALL O FATE OR SOUTH DALLAS AND SOME OF THOSE PLACES COST ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO $50 AIGHT. AND IT'S LIMITED.

IT'S NOT 24 HOURS. IT'S USUALLY LIKE A 12 HOUR PERIOD. SO FOR A WEEKEND, THOSE DRIVERS MAY BE PAYING $75 TO PARK THERE FOR THE WEEKEND. AND IF THEY WANT TO GO HOME, THEN THEY EITHER HAVE TO UBER OR SOMEBODY HAS TO COME OUT AND GET THEM. SO PAYING A $75 TICKET IS A LOT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM THAN PARKING 40 MILES AWAY AND HAVING TO GET HOME AND THEN GET BACK TO THEIR VEHICLE.

SO I THINK THOSE FINES FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES SHOULD BE WORTH IT. JUST MY OPINION, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY TO UP THOSE FINES IS BECAUSE THEY

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I KNOW THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT I GET IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEY PLAY CAT AND MOUSE WITH OUR MARSHALS. OKAY? YES, SIR. YEAH YEAH. BUT SO I'D LOVE TO SEE WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU ALL THINK, WHATEVER YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE THE BEST. I THINK WE SHOULD LAND SOMEWHERE WHERE WHERE IT BECOMES A DETERRENT FOR THOSE FOLKS. BECAUSE IN OUR EXPERIENCE SO FAR, THEY IGNORE IT. I MEAN, TAKE IT ON, ON A TRUCK. SO WHAT? YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S BACK NEXT RUN. SO I'M I'M ALL IN FOR THAT. MICHAEL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOWING OFF TELL SAY AGAIN YOU. WHY CAN'T WE USE BOOTS? SO, MAYOR, IF I MAY, IS THAT AM I OFF BASE? WELL WE'RE JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FEE AS A AS A DETERRENT AND TOOLS. SO MY QUESTION IS. TO YOU TALKING ABOUT HAVING VEHICLES TOWED AWAY. SO I'M ASKING COULD WE USE THAT AS A PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TWO STRIKES. IS THAT AM I OFF BASE. I WOULD SAY THAT'S BEYOND A FEE OKAY. BUT IF WE CAN KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE FEES, I CAN I CAN FOCUS IT ON THE FEE, WHICH IS THE PROBLEM IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ONE ONEE AND DOE ARE THEY'RE THE PROBLEM IS ONCE YOU GET THE PEOPLE WITH TWO, THEY QUICKLY BECOME THREE, 4 OR 5. AND SO THE ONLY WAY A BOOT MAKES SENSE IS IF YOU CATCH THEM BEFORE YOU CAN TOW THEM. THE PLACES WHERE THERE ARE TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND THEY HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE THE TIME WHEN THE FIRST TICKET WAS ALREADY DUE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BOOT THEM. AND THE NUMBERS WEREN'T BIG ENOUGH AT THE TIME EVER TO PUT A BOOT IN PLACE THAT WOULD MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FINANCIALLY DETRIMENTAL. OKAY, OKAY OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU SIR, I DID. OKAY. THANK YOU MASTER. MASTERFULLY DONE. LIKE SITTING ON I LIKE SITTING ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE BETTER THAN THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.

MASTERFULLY DONE. THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. WILLIAMS. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. MAYOR MIKE. WHAT IT WAS ONLY LIKE TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE OKAY. OKAY. AND I'LL TELL YOU, FOR ANYONE WATCHING FOR ANYONE LISTENING TO THIS, THIS IS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING TERM LIMITS ON EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT. WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS TWO YEARS AGO, THE FIGHT THAT I HAD WITH COUNCIL WAS INCREASING. THESE THESE FEES ARE LOWER THAN WHAT I PROPOSED TWO YEARS AGO, AND SO IT'S INTERESTING TO SIT HERE TODAY AND HEAR COUNCIL WANTING TO INCREASE THESE FEES. AND THIS WAS THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS MADE TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO INCREASE THE FEES ANY MORE THAN THIS. THIS WAS THE COMPROMISE. SO REALLY, REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE IT. A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES HERE TODAY. SO, YOU KNOW YEAH I AGREE AND I HAVE AGREED FOR YEARS THAT THAT THESE FEES ARE VIEWED, AND THAT WAS ARGUMENT THAT I HAD TO WHICH SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THAT THESE ARE VIEWED AS JUST A PARKING EXPENSE, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PUNITIVE, AND THAT'S THE ARGUMENT THAT I HAD FOR MAKING THE THIRD OFFENSE GREATER THAN $75 TWO YEARS AGO. BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU COMPARE THIS TO WHAT PARKING COSTS, YOU WILL SEE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR PARKING. AND SO YEAH, IT'S A I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT THE SUBSEQUENT FEES NEED TO BE INCREASED. I THINK THE FIRST OFFENSE, THE FIRST OFFENSE SHOULD BE VIEWED AS, YOU KNOW, JUST A SMALL PUNITIVE FEE TO GET THEIR ATTENTION. THE SECOND AND THIRD OFFENSES AND SUBSEQUENTLY FROM THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GREAT ENOUGH THAT IT'S A DETERRENT TO NOT WANT TO COMMIT THE OFFENSE. AGAIN. THANK YOU. SORRY. MAKING SOME NOTES.

ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE START TO CIRCLE BACK. SEEING NONE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OKAY. SO SINCE NO ONE HAD ANY RATE, ANY RATES TO GIVE, I HAVE, COME UP WITH SOME, IF THAT'S OKAY. MAY I MAKE NOTES

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OKAY SECOND OFFENSE, 350. THIRD OFFENSE, 500. JAILO. NOT JAIL. AND REALLY, THE ONLY REASON THAT I HAD THAT I AM, ASKING FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE FOR OVERSIZE VEHICLES TO BE SO HIGH IS THAT, THESE ARE, THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE LAW AND SUPPOSED TO OBEY THE LAWS OF THE ROADS, I THINK THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE PARKING IN THE WRONG SPOT WHEN THEY'RE DOING SO HONESTLY. SO. THANK YOU. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GONNA I'M JUST GOING TO RECAP THESE REAL QUICK. STANDARD VEHICLE, FIRST OFFENSE, NO CHANGE AT $25. SECOND OFFENSE INCREASE FROM 50 TO 100. THIRD AND THIRD OR SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE INCREASE FROM 75 TO 2 TO 250, FIRST OF FIRST OFFENSE. OVERSIZE. INCREASE FROM 75 TO 175. SECOND OFFENSE OVERSIZE 100 TO 3 53RD AND THIRD OR SUBSEQUENT OVERSIZE FROM 150 TO 500. I THINK I GOT ALL THAT. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, WE MAY NEED TO RESEARCH THE MAXIMUM FINE AMOUNT IN THIS CATEGORY OF FINES FOR THE OVERSIZE 501 AT LEAST. OKAY, SO LET US RESEARCH THAT AND REPORT BACK, PLEASE, ON THAT ONE BEFORE Y'ALL LOCK THAT IN AS YOUR THIRD ON THAT AS YOUR THIRD. OFFENSE. FINE. RIGHT.

OKAY, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THE FINES ABOVE THE OF IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES ABOVE THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I WOULDN'T I HAVE NEVER RESEARCHED THIS ISSUE, SO LET US LOOK INTO IT THEN. LET'S, LET'S HAVE THIS BACK FOR MONDAY NIGHT, AND WE CAN WE CAN WORK FROM THERE. BUT THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS COUNCIL THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD TO THAT POINT. AND THEN DEPENDING ON MAXIMUMS. ET CETERA. WE MAY ADJUST OR NOT ADJUST OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SEE YOU ON MONDAY. YES ALLISON, BACK TO YOU. BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO JUST KIND OF GENERAL COUNCIL DISCUSSION, DELIBERATION, WANTED TO RECAP THE ISSUES AND FOLLOW UP ITEMS. I HAVE NOTED HERE, SO FIRST ARE SOME FOLLOW UP DATA REQUESTS RELATED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SHARE THE FEE COMPARISON THAT SUPPORTS SOME OF THE FIRE PROPOSED FEES FOR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THIS WOULD BE REVIEWING, THE A TIERED SYSTEM FOR THE HOLFORD RENTAL RATES, LOOKING AT CREATING A TIER NOT ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL USE AND THEN REVIEWING THE COST RECOVERY ON THE AFTER HOURS RENTAL FEE AS WELL AS CONSIDERING A TIER SYSTEM FOR THAT AFTER HOURS RENTAL FEE AS WELL FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. I NOTED A QUESTION REGARDING THE RICHARDSON RATE STRUCTURE AND OUR RATE THAT WE ASSESSED TO RICHARDSON FOR WASTEWATER SERVICE, AND THEN FINALLY FOLLOW UP RELATED TO THE PROPOSED FEE STRUCTURE FOR THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM AND ANY MAXIMUMS THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT THAT MATCHES THE RANDOM SCRIBBLING THINGS THAT I PUT DOWN. AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS CLARIFICATION ON BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BRING US TO ITEM SIX. IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO COVER AT THIS POINT IS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TAKEN IN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TODAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF SECTIONS, THAT I KNOW ALL OF US KIND OF PROBABLY NEED SOME PROCESSING TIME, BUT IF YOU, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK OF LATER OR TOMORROW OR

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